Time Nick Message 01:31 hoodedice sfan5 01:31 hoodedice Do you have your android port somewhere? 01:55 WindHero is there a way to determine chunk edges in-game? 01:57 kahrl WindHero: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1285 01:58 WindHero ah 01:58 WindHero I meant through code 01:59 kahrl you shouldn't need to worry about it in lua 01:59 WindHero I'm getting some crazy stuff using voxelmanip 02:00 WindHero using the player's spawn position as a center 02:00 WindHero except for any blocks I add with the LVM, the whole chunk is empty 02:01 kahrl maybe you're not accounting for the fact that the LVM can be bigger than requested 02:01 kahrl but you shouldn't try to work around this by calculating mapblock boundaries 02:01 kahrl fix the bug instead ;) 02:02 VanessaE evening kahrl 02:02 kahrl hi VanessaE 02:03 VanessaE kahrl: since you seem to know a bit about vmanip, you got any idea why this would happen? 02:03 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2290&p=142223#p142223 02:03 VanessaE (can't be a bug in my code, I don't use that feature) 02:05 kahrl VanessaE: I guess paramat knows them better than I do :) 02:05 kahrl but he's got no idea either 02:05 WindHero I think that's the problem 02:05 kahrl tried to ask hmmmm? 02:06 WindHero I using the regular Vmanip rather than the mapgen object vmanip 02:06 VanessaE I haven't seen hmmmm yet to ask him 02:06 WindHero so it functions differently 02:07 Megaf_ folks, unified inventory is crashing my server a lot http://paste.debian.net/101509/ 02:07 VanessaE WindHero: can you elaborate? 02:07 WindHero basically, since I need to know where the players spawn upon joining the server 02:07 VanessaE Megaf_: is your copy of the datastorage mod up-to-date? 02:07 VanessaE afaik UI needs it 02:08 Megaf_ I never added this mod here 02:08 WindHero I have a function called during minetest.register_on_newplayer 02:08 VanessaE oh wait, you're talking about the issue you were trying to solve, derp :) 02:08 Megaf_ problem is, unified_inventory didnt use to store data on the worlds folder 02:08 WindHero that calls a voxelmanip to generate a spacecraft 02:08 VanessaE Megaf_: hm, ok. I've never had it crash before 02:09 WindHero so I'm using: 02:09 WindHero minetest.get_voxel_manip() 02:09 WindHero instead of 02:09 Megaf_ than one day, sundely, a lot of files apperead on the worlds folder and I deleted them all 02:09 WindHero minetest.get_mapgen_object("voxelmanip") 02:10 VanessaE Megaf_: in other words, you have a corrupt database in your world folder that UI needs 02:10 kahrl WindHero: can you pastebin the whole code? 02:10 WindHero sure 02:10 kahrl the voxelmanip part I mean 02:10 Megaf_ yep, it started to flood my world folder with unkown files 02:11 VanessaE Megaf_: file this as a bug report against unified invntory 02:11 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory 02:11 VanessaE Megaf_: but ultimately you have a corrupt UI waypoints database 02:11 WindHero http://pastebin.com/ucYtxxab 02:11 WindHero kahrl ^ 02:12 WindHero almost the whole code is voxelmanip 02:12 WindHero since I have this loaded in a dofile in init 02:14 Megaf_ VanessaE; bye the way, this mod is one of the reasons my server slowed down 02:15 Megaf_ https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/issues/11 02:16 VanessaE very strange 02:16 VanessaE I've never had UI do stuff like that to my servers 02:17 Megaf_ My, my server crashes every time I join now, or anyone that used that mod 02:17 VanessaE but bear this in mind: 02:17 VanessaE writing to a memory card, even an SD card, is slow. 02:17 VanessaE so anything that creates lots of files is gonna slow your machine down on that odroid 02:17 Megaf_ VanessaE; It didnt use to slow now, thats from 4 days to now 02:18 VanessaE nevermind if it causes a large CPU load - I'm just talking about I/O speed. even on very FAST machines, SD cards can be slow. 02:18 VanessaE also: 02:18 VanessaE copy the paste into the bug report 02:18 VanessaE don't link to it 02:18 VanessaE I'll fix it. 02:19 Megaf_ fix what? let me paste on the right place 02:19 VanessaE there. 02:19 VanessaE reload the page 02:19 Megaf_ yep, thanks 02:19 VanessaE it's a good idea to actually paste the text into the report, because pastebin links sometimes expire 02:21 Megaf_ VanessaE; so, as a workaround I will save the unified_inventory folder to a safe place and get a new clone of it 02:21 kahrl WindHero: dunno, the code seems fine to me 02:21 VanessaE yes, re-clone it, and check if any of those data storage files have become corrupted 02:21 WindHero precisely... 02:21 WindHero maybe it's because it's so close to runtime 02:22 VanessaE same way you'd check for corrupted player files - move half of them out, check for crashes, bisect, repeat. 02:22 Megaf_ VanessaE; I deleted all thos datastorage files 02:22 Megaf_ thats whats causing the crashes 02:22 Megaf_ I believe 02:23 Megaf_ at least homes are saved on a single file 02:23 WindHero this is what it looks like: http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx132/Phantom1714/screenshot_632701280.png 02:24 Megaf_ VanessaE; anyway, should I get the datastorage mod? 02:24 VanessaE Megaf_: no 02:24 VanessaE I guess it's not needed 02:24 Megaf_ I never used it and its not on depends 02:24 VanessaE now move some of those data storage files back in 02:25 VanessaE say 5 letters of the alpha at a time. A-E, check for crashes, F-I, and keep doing that 02:26 Megaf_ VanessaE; the UI looks really different now 02:26 VanessaE define "different" 02:26 VanessaE the icon images? 02:26 VanessaE :) 02:26 Megaf_ yes 02:26 Megaf_ all of them 02:26 * VanessaE <--- my doing. 02:26 Megaf_ oh 02:26 VanessaE new imagery was needed to handle these high-def "retina" screens some folks are using 02:27 Megaf_ they dont look very nice on this crappy 1080p res... 02:27 VanessaE so I did up some high-detail 128px icons, but had to seek out new source imagery 02:27 Megaf_ ok 02:27 Megaf_ So I think is just a matter of getting used to them 02:28 Megaf_ they are actually nice 02:29 Megaf_ VanessaE; server is fast again... 02:29 Megaf_ the new git clone done the trick 02:29 VanessaE with UI? 02:29 VanessaE oh good 02:30 Megaf_ the "feel" is of no lag 02:30 Megaf_ !up minetest.megaf.info 30003 02:30 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (843ms) 02:31 VanessaE Megaf_: https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/issues/11#issuecomment-44075450 02:36 Megaf_ VanessaE; How do I format it like you did? 02:36 Megaf_ I mean, to paste code 02:38 Megaf_ https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/issues/11#issuecomment-44075616 02:43 VanessaE Megaf_: ``` before and again after the code 02:43 VanessaE (back-tick, next to the 1 on the top row) 02:43 VanessaE you got it 02:45 Megaf_ VanessaE; Brazilian keyboard 02:45 Megaf_ it's shift plus ' here 02:45 Megaf_ right side of "p" 02:45 Megaf_ where you have the "[" 02:46 VanessaE oh, you got one of those weird-ass keyboard ;) 02:46 VanessaE +s 02:47 Megaf_ That's my keymap http://image.made-in-china.com/46f35j00tEatGJTWdQif/ABNT2-Keyboard-Layout.jpg 03:01 WindHero hmm 03:02 WindHero perhaps, if I match the values of the edges to multiples of 16... 03:04 WindHero time to use the modulus operator 03:06 Megaf_ VanessaE; hows the moretrees mod doing? 03:08 VanessaE ask zat :) 03:08 VanessaE zat: *poke* 03:09 VanessaE (he's working on mgv7 support for moretrees and/or plants_lib) 03:09 VanessaE sure hope Splizard figures out what broke in the snow mod that made it incompatible with plants_lib. 03:28 Megaf_ VanessaE; https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/issues/11#issuecomment-44076432 03:28 Megaf_ !seen realbadangel 03:28 MinetestBot Megaf_: realbadangel was last seen at 2014-05-23 15:51:19 UTC on #minetest 03:28 Megaf_ !tell RealBadAngel https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/issues/11#issuecomment-44076432 03:28 MinetestBot Megaf_: I'll pass that on when RealBadAngel is around 03:28 Megaf_ ~tell RealBadAngel https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/issues/11#issuecomment-44076432 03:28 ShadowBot Megaf_: O.K. 03:29 WindHero alright 03:29 VanessaE I'll have to let RBA look into that 03:29 VanessaE that whole generic data storage mechanism left me confused before :P 03:30 VanessaE however, hdastwb is probably tihy 03:30 VanessaE right* 03:30 VanessaE damn I can't type 03:30 Megaf_ Yes he is 03:30 Megaf_ at least it makes sense 03:30 VanessaE should be an easy fix 03:32 zat est 03:32 zat wat 03:33 WindHero local mx = math.fmod(player:getpos().x, 16) 03:34 WindHero local rx = player:getpos().x + 16 - mx 03:34 WindHero local nrx = rx + 32 03:34 WindHero ^nearest two chunk boundaries near the player 03:37 * VanessaE pokes zat some more 03:37 VanessaE (just because ;) ) 03:38 zat iyada 03:39 VanessaE zat: Megaf_ was asking about moretrees 03:39 VanessaE I figured you are best equipped to handle that question since you've got code in the works for it 03:39 zat I asked yesterday about some issues that I encountered but nobody has reeplied 03:39 zat I couldn't get working the idea of a lua function being called to work with mapgen. 03:40 zat I just works bad 03:42 VanessaE maybe just a bad time of day to ask is all 03:43 zat eh 03:48 VanessaE well -dev can go from to a veritable deluge in 5 mins 03:52 zat lmao 03:52 zat I will ask again 03:54 Vazon_ mhmm this is a pain, i got 3d wield veiw to work with 3d armor and skins, but i cant get the 3d item to move with the hand :| 04:02 zat Vazon_: maybe take a look at how the current tool attached to the hand. 04:02 zat (I have no idea though) 04:03 Vazon_ i have been looking at the wieldview code to look for that, but it keeps buggin out. i think i may have found it 04:07 VanessaE I liked wield3d, until it got too buggy to use 04:07 VanessaE kept leaving detached entities all over the map 04:07 VanessaE I wish that feature could be incorporated into the client 04:09 Vazon_ VanessaE i think i got it all fixed to my version of 3d_armor and unified skins but i just can get the tool to attach 04:09 Vazon_ cant* 04:09 VanessaE Vazon_: that reminds me: 3d armor doesn't work with cheapie's creative inventory mod *pokes cheapie* 04:10 * cheapie wakes up 04:10 Vazon_ i used unified inventory. 04:10 * cheapie pokes VE back 04:10 VanessaE good morning, cheapie (you're up late) 04:10 cheapie I've actually been awake, just helping my mom with her Kindle thingy. 04:10 cheapie Anyway, just use unified_inventory. 04:11 VanessaE on Vanilla and FFA? O_o 04:11 VanessaE (well FFA anyway) 04:12 VanessaE but...tablets 04:12 cheapie Besides, this is something that needs to be done from the 3D armor side. It needs to detect my mod (can be detected by the player having the "creative" priv without unified_inv installed) and change the position of its buttons. 04:12 cheapie Sure, I could move things out of the way of it, but it would be better to do it from the 3d armor side. 04:13 Vazon_ VanessaE: http://pastebin.com/V1v1yB93 <-- This is what i have on the 3d_wieldview, do you have any idea what to add to get the items to attach to the player models? 04:13 VanessaE Vazon_: https://github.com/cheapie/mt_nostalgia/tree/master/mods/creative 04:13 VanessaE this is the mod he and I are talkign about 04:13 VanessaE can you adapt 3d_armor to this? 04:14 VanessaE and, no I haven't a clue - entity attachments confuse me :) 04:14 Vazon_ yes i have 04:15 Vazon_ would you like me to send a copy of my 3d_armor and skins files do you can test? 04:15 Vazon_ i have been testing it for about 1 hour and 45 mins 04:16 VanessaE tomorrow, after I wake up from my stupor :) 04:16 Vazon_ ok. 04:16 VanessaE (the stupor of inadequate sleep combined with a botched sleep schedule :) ) 04:18 Vazon_ hrmp, sleep. I should probly get some, it's 12:17 am here 04:18 zat goodnight all 04:18 Vazon_ Night zat. 04:18 zat neeght 04:20 VanessaE good night guys 04:20 * VanessaE will hang around a bit longer 04:20 Vazon_ Night VanessaE 04:33 Megaf_ (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ 04:34 VanessaE now what? 04:39 Megaf_ VanessaE; nothing 04:39 Megaf_ :) 04:40 Megaf_ i just saw that on a coment and I like it 04:40 VanessaE oh heh 04:40 VanessaE well set the damn table back upright and put everything back on it 04:40 VanessaE it's too late in the day to make messes 04:41 VanessaE :) 04:42 Megaf_ (╯^_^)/ TT 04:42 Megaf_ ┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ) 04:42 Megaf_ better? 04:44 Megaf_ ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ 04:44 VanessaE better. 04:44 Megaf_ http://tableflipping.com/ such flipping, very table, wow! 04:57 Megaf_ VanessaE; a baby seal, ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ 04:58 Megaf_ [^._.^]ﾉ彡 04:58 Megaf_ heh 04:58 MegAFK Gonna try to get some sleep 04:58 MegAFK maybe 05:24 cxclaim7193 hi 05:24 cxclaim7193 hmm 05:25 cxclaim7193 Minetest looks unfinished... 05:25 VanessaE not at all 05:26 VanessaE you didn't play the "minimal" game did you? 05:26 cxclaim7193 no, i think 05:27 VanessaE Try one of these games using the Minetest engine: 05:27 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9033 05:27 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=9196 05:27 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=9036 05:27 VanessaE haha 05:27 cxclaim7193 i played the one that was green 05:27 VanessaE the one that was green? 05:28 VanessaE that sounds like the "Minimal development test" 05:28 VanessaE that's not really a game, that's just what it sounds like 05:28 VanessaE here, grab this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/archive/master.zip 05:28 cxclaim7193 i did see something awhile back 05:28 VanessaE unzip that file, rename the folder to minetest_game 05:29 VanessaE and put it in your minetest games directory, and create a world with that instead 05:29 VanessaE THAT one is the real default game 05:29 cxclaim7193 thanks 05:29 VanessaE the others I listed are third-party games that some of us have built 05:30 Vazon Night im off to bed 05:30 cxclaim7193 so, is there redstone in minetest? 05:31 Vazon cxclaim redstone but our more or less equvelent is mese or mesecons 05:31 Vazon no redstone* 05:32 VanessaE cxclaim7193: yes, Mesecons mod 05:32 cxclaim7193 is it seperate? 05:32 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=628 05:32 Vazon yes you need to get the mesecons mod 05:32 cxclaim7193 ah 05:32 Vazon ^^ 05:32 VanessaE cxclaim7193: also, look at the texture packs we have 05:33 * VanessaE is proud of hers - HDX. https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1583 05:33 cxclaim7193 is there anyone who uses 0.3.x? 05:33 VanessaE 0.3.x is outdated but some people still play it, in the form of Minetest Classic 05:34 VanessaE most of us use the 0.4.x series 05:34 cxclaim7193 i used it for a time 05:34 VanessaE sources for 0.4.x: https://github.com/minetest/minetest 05:34 Vazon cxc its outdated but as VanessaE said there is a branch called Minetest Classic that uses 0.3.x 05:34 VanessaE (binaries are on http://minetest.net ) 05:35 cxclaim7193 what? windows? 05:35 cxclaim7193 binaries? 05:35 VanessaE yeah 05:36 VanessaE you can get windows or linux packages ready to run, or compile it yourself if you like 05:37 VanessaE (it's recommended that you grab one of the "latest git" builds from the forums, they're more up-to-date than the releases on the main website) 05:37 cxclaim7193 i haven't clue what 'compile' means in computers 05:38 VanessaE it means to run the source code through a program that turns it into something you can actually run. If you don't know how to do that, grab a copy that has already been compiled. 05:38 Vazon Compile means to put it to gether yourself in a terminal (Now that definition isnt intierly correct) 05:38 VanessaE one second. 05:38 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6727 05:38 VanessaE grab one of these 05:38 VanessaE they're usually really good 05:38 cxclaim7193 ah 05:39 cxclaim7193 thanks 05:39 cxclaim7193 hmm 05:39 VanessaE brb 05:39 cxclaim7193 blank... 05:40 cxclaim7193 wait.. nevermind 05:41 VanessaE be sure you grab whichever one is appropriate for your machine 05:42 VanessaE (32 bit or 64 bit - if you don't know, try the 32 bit one first) 05:43 Vazon VanessaE: in your homedecor mod how did you get your textures for the ironbars and stuff work??? because i made the default ladder 3d not a flat image and i have to use the wood texture other wise it gliches out. 05:43 VanessaE hm, gotta remember to poke blockmen to update his build. it's out of date already :) 05:43 VanessaE Vazon: well for the iron bars, I just used a flat texture and let it wrap itself around the model 05:44 VanessaE different shades on each side 05:44 VanessaE nothing at all complex 05:44 VanessaE literally, I textured it like you'd texture a block of dirt or so 05:44 Vazon really?? it looks different from all sides so i figured you used a different way of texturing it 05:44 VanessaE yep 05:45 Vazon mhm 05:45 VanessaE it's just three big square "metal" textures 05:45 Vazon ok i will jsut have to think of how i want it to look 05:45 VanessaE same texture, just slightly different shaes 05:45 VanessaE shades 05:45 Vazon ok 05:45 VanessaE the reason the default ladder image doesn't work is because your model expects different images for the sides 05:46 VanessaE you have to texture models differently than you would a flat object or a cube 05:46 VanessaE imagine a small clay sculpture without any paint on it. 05:46 Vazon o ok 05:46 VanessaE what would happen if you projected a flat image onto one side? 05:46 VanessaE (like, literally from a film projector pointing at it) 05:47 Vazon well it would be distored 05:47 VanessaE yes 05:47 VanessaE now suppose you drew that texture so that, when projected onto the sculpture, the image looks correct 05:47 VanessaE what would happen if you project that same image onto a flat surface like the wall? 05:47 VanessaE it would again look distorted, right? 05:48 Vazon yes 05:48 VanessaE well, the ladder is the same thing, the other way around. 05:48 VanessaE and done from all six sides of the cube 05:48 Vazon hrmm ok 05:48 VanessaE you've taken an image that's meant to be shown on a flat surface and projected it onto a rumpled, bumpy, warped object, so it distorts. 05:49 VanessaE and because you only supplied one, the game took that image and flipped and rotated and copied it to the other 5 sides 05:49 VanessaE so you've got bits bent out here, pieces chopped out over there, etc. 05:49 Vazon ya 05:50 VanessaE (insert more, excessively verbose stuff here explaining it ;) ) 05:51 Vazon well that gives me something to do tomorrow then, i spend 30 min the other day creating the 3d ladder for the eserver because i hate the flat one. it jsut floats in the air never touchign the wall, it bugged me -.- 05:52 VanessaE heh 05:53 Vazon idk why no one every bother to fix that. 05:54 VanessaE I always wondered that 05:55 Vazon would you like to see how it turned out? the only people who have seen it are the ones who have joined me server which isnt many atm because its not on hte public list 05:56 VanessaE sure 05:56 VanessaE might even be worth adding to my servers and support in HDX :) 05:56 VanessaE (as long as you changed the filename) 05:56 Vazon :D 05:56 VanessaE (of the texture) 05:57 Vazon the texture is default wood atm till i make a new one but once i do yes it will be changed 05:57 VanessaE just copy default wood -> your mod and rename it and reference that 05:57 VanessaE until you can give it a proper texture 05:58 Vazon ok 05:58 Vazon i will do that 2morrow, i need to get some sleep 05:58 VanessaE you'll need four images: 3d_ladder_front.png, 3d_ladder_back.png, 3d_ladder_sides.png, 3d_ladder_topbottom.png 05:58 Vazon ok 05:58 VanessaE (re-use the sides image for the left/right, and obviously you know what to do for the topbottom one) 05:59 Vazon ya 05:59 whiskers75 I'm going to try out Jordach's BFD 05:59 VanessaE whiskers75: careful with git, he says it's crashy 05:59 VanessaE you may have to roll back a few commits if it acts up 05:59 whiskers75 sure 05:59 whiskers75 I'm just using the master.zip 05:59 Vazon ok Night guys 05:59 VanessaE something about an unfinished node def 05:59 VanessaE night Vazon 06:00 whiskers75 if it starts crashing, I'll git clone and checkout earlier commits 06:00 whiskers75 please minetest, don't kill my computer 06:00 VanessaE I'm dumb like that. I git reset and git pull to go back and forth :P 06:01 whiskers75 lol 06:01 VanessaE I never understand what I'm doing with git checkout if it isn't for an actual branch 06:01 whiskers75 VanessaE: you can detach your HEAD and just git checkout a commit directly 06:01 whiskers75 also, it failed on just booting it xD 06:01 VanessaE heh 06:02 whiskers75 VanessaE: read Pro Git 06:03 VanessaE me after trying to read half the shit on the web about git or Lua --> 0_o 06:03 whiskers75 VanessaE: lol 06:03 * whiskers75 is a git expert 06:03 VanessaE *twitch* 06:04 whiskers75 yay, git -1 worked 06:04 whiskers75 I mean the commit before latest 06:04 VanessaE oh good 06:05 whiskers75 and I spawn in the middle of the freakin' ocean. 06:05 VanessaE lol 06:05 VanessaE oh BFD is a bitch like that 06:05 VanessaE so Jordach says 06:05 whiskers75 lol 06:06 whiskers75 no damn land in sight 06:06 whiskers75 I'm getting a new world... 06:07 whiskers75 pls2later tell Jordach WHY IS BFD SO HARD :( 06:07 ^EOF whiskers75: Meow! 06:07 whiskers75 pls2hug VanessaE 06:07 * ^EOF hugs VanessaE 06:08 VanessaE heh 06:08 VanessaE I've been bot-hugged :) 06:28 whiskers75 pls2compliment VanessaE 06:28 ^EOF VanessaE: I dig you. 06:29 VanessaE heh 06:30 VanessaE cute :( 06:30 VanessaE shit 06:30 VanessaE cute :) 06:31 whiskers75 ;P 06:32 VanessaE can't type 06:34 Krock hi 06:34 VanessaE hi 06:35 whiskers75 pls2slap Krock 06:35 * ^EOF slaps Krock around a bit with a 02r12a06i13n05b04o07w 08t03r09o10u11t02! 06:36 kaeza greetings 06:37 * Krock doesn't know why minetest.register_on_generated's seed always changes... 06:37 * Krock expected a constant value 06:44 VanessaE hey 06:45 VanessaE I believe it's supposed to be the block seed, not the world seed 06:45 Krock so it's useless for lua mapgens...? 06:45 VanessaE idk 06:45 Krock k 06:46 VanessaE probably useful for seeding a rng if you wanna make sure trees et al always end up in the same spots on a map 06:46 Krock aha 06:46 Krock well, I wouldn't require such thing 06:46 VanessaE but I could also be talking out of my ass too :) 07:16 * sfan5 meows 07:16 sfan5 hi everyone 07:17 sfan5 !tell hoodedice yes, in /home/stefan/aw/minetest.newest/Android/bin/Minetest-debug.apk 07:17 MinetestBot sfan5: yeah, sure, whatever 07:18 VanessaE morning, sfan5 07:20 * kaeza pets sfan5 from an Ubuntu 14.04 VM 07:21 * sfan5 purrs at kaeza from an Ubuntu 14.04 not-VM 07:24 blaaaaargh whoever thought right Ctrl is a good idea for the "special key" should be shot 07:24 blaaaaargh (VBox) 07:25 sfan5 you can change it 07:25 blaaaaargh I know 07:25 blaaaaargh but seems can't be changed at runtime 08:16 Krock Good idea: A restaurant gives 2-5 CHF fine when they don't eat everything which they have ordered 08:23 VanessaE here it's common to just take home in a "doggy bag"/"to go box" that which you have ordered but cannot finish 08:23 VanessaE if you have any sense 08:34 Krock that's also a good idea 08:36 * sfan5 meows at Krock 08:36 * Krock barks at sfan5 08:42 Krock OMG <3 <3 <3 http://imgur.com/gallery/Lq1UX0K 08:44 VanessaE hahaha 09:19 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix a bunch of small bugs due to mainmenu cleanup f969a91c0a 2014-05-24T11:16:05+02:00 http://git.io/_OYscw 09:22 MinetestBot GIT: JakubVanek commited to minetest/minetest: fixed typo std::encl in src/gettext.cpp 6922807fd5 2014-05-24T11:20:21+02:00 http://git.io/7PuRPQ 09:49 VanessaE whiskers75: how old is your minetest client, btw? 09:49 whiskers75 0.4.9 09:49 VanessaE release/stable? 09:50 VanessaE (I mean, not a git build) 09:50 whiskers75 a 0.4.9-184-[cba to remember sha] 09:50 whiskers75 a git build 09:50 VanessaE heh ok 09:51 whiskers75 john_minetest: http://blog.whiskers75.co.uk/load-averages-with-a-piglow/ :D 09:52 VanessaE heh, cute 09:52 whiskers75 :P 09:53 whiskers75 such GET 09:53 whiskers75 many request 09:53 whiskers75 very load 09:53 whiskers75 you actually pushed it down to green by querying it 09:53 whiskers75 :P 09:53 whiskers75 I'mma host those images externally, I think 09:54 Jordach LOL 09:54 VanessaE all right, enough's enough, I'm off :) 09:54 VanessaE night 09:54 whiskers75 Jordach: wat? 09:54 whiskers75 oh, lol 09:54 Jordach [10:53:36] you actually pushed it down to green by querying it 09:54 whiskers75 xD 09:54 nman3600 hi 09:54 whiskers75 it's gone back to white now 09:54 nman3600 i just had to clear some space on my computer because i was lagging like crazy 09:54 whiskers75 sorry for the lack of commenting, btw 09:55 whiskers75 the provider's having issues 09:56 nman3600 if you want to see screenshots of my new mod join #multitest 09:57 Jordach just post em here 09:57 Jordach no need to fucking fragment the community= 09:57 nman3600 lol 09:57 nman3600 k 09:58 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 09:58 nman3600 AHH FUCK AND ADVERT SCARED ME 09:58 kaeza such language 09:59 nman3600 sorry it scared me 09:59 whiskers75 lol 09:59 whiskers75 https://imgur.com/a/lS9ts 09:59 nman3600 is that similar to raspberry pi? 09:59 whiskers75 it is a raspberry pi 10:00 nman3600 KNEW IT 10:00 Jordach GAH 10:00 Jordach use https://mediacru.sh for picture hosting 10:00 whiskers75 Jordach: don't have time atm 10:00 whiskers75 also, Calinou: http://blog.whiskers75.co.uk/load-averages-with-a-piglow/ 10:00 sfan5 >not having time for change 10:00 whiskers75 afk 10:00 whiskers75 (see?) 10:01 * sfan5 meows at whiskers75 10:01 * nman3600 woofs at sfan5 10:01 * sfan5 puts nman3600 on a kitten 10:01 nman3600 ahh kitten 10:02 nman3600 !rainbow rainbow kittens!!! 10:02 MinetestBot 4r4a4i7n7b7o8w8 8k3i3t3t12e12n12s6!6!6! 10:02 Calinou hi 10:04 nman3600 hi 10:07 nman3600 !rainbow r a i n b o w 10:07 MinetestBot 4r4 4a7 7i7 8n8 8b3 3o3 12w 10:07 Calinou “(paid for in bitcoin, of course)” :o 10:07 * sfan5 meows at nman3600 10:07 * sfan5 throws doges at Calinou 10:07 * nman3600 meows back at sfan5 10:07 * nman3600 hands milk to sfan5 10:08 nman3600 lol 10:08 * sfan5 noms the milk 10:08 * sfan5 throws a Pighigh at john_minetest 10:08 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a <'(((-< 10:08 * sfan5 noms the fishy 10:09 * nman3600 feeds sfan5 cat food 10:09 * sfan5 throws computers at nman3600 10:10 Calinou http://0bin.net/paste/8y1a1mcce+R1FUAR#cMXCYLo6hAP9Eb3TIgyhppbA1AHNV02HCifuGi4n6nY= 10:10 Calinou :D 10:10 Calinou this works 10:10 Calinou need to fix textres now 10:15 Calinou Made crafting bricks and clay require 9 items instead of 4, added ability to uncraft clay into clay lumps, added grass slabs, made Unbreakable Grass rotatable. 10:16 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix disable hud disabling drawing of full gui 6b37529bd6 2014-05-24T12:15:11+02:00 http://git.io/LOSAjQ 10:18 * nman3600 fills sfan5's bowl of milk up 10:18 Jordach ow 10:18 * sfan5 noms the milk and then noms the bowl 10:18 Jordach pins and needles in the fingers 10:19 nman3600 that's the worst thing when that happens Jordach 10:19 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Remove settings not used any longer 3939ab6c9d 2014-05-24T12:17:15+02:00 http://git.io/5WQT7g 10:20 nman3600 what's the item string for wheat is it farming:wheat 10:20 nman3600 because i'm lazy to look it up 10:20 sfan5 probably 10:22 nman3600 yes it is farming:wheat 10:23 Calinou added burned clay, obtained by smelting a clay block 10:23 nman3600 nice 10:23 Calinou sfan5, would it possible to make mod-agnostic /give command? 10:23 Calinou would scan all mods and give first item possible 10:23 sfan5 agnostic = ? 10:23 sfan5 ah 10:23 sfan5 yes 10:23 Calinou eg: you type /giveme trapstone 10:23 Calinou without an alias, it would find it in moreblocks 10:24 Calinou aliases lengthen load time and bloat the code :( 10:24 Jordach reasons why BFD has none 10:24 Calinou if there are at least 2 items with same name: tell all the names (disambig) 10:25 nman3600 hmm? what blocks to add to my mod 10:25 Calinou hay bale 10:25 Calinou (I will probably add that soon to Carbone) 10:25 Calinou bye for now :) 10:25 nman3600 that's what i just did actually 10:25 nman3600 i made hay bale for minetest lol 10:26 sfan5 Jordach: you don't need any for bfd because there is no backward-compatibility 10:26 Jordach sfan5, BFD somewhat runs MTG based mods 10:26 Jordach but barelyt 10:26 Jordach -t 10:26 nman3600 Calinou in my mod i made hay bale that's why i wanted to know the item string for wheat 10:28 nman3600 srsly now i might have to remove hay bale from my mod because it's being added to minetest 10:29 kaeza no, it's being added to Carbone 10:29 nman3600 k i'll keep then then? 10:29 nman3600 *it then?* 10:29 kaeza yes yes :) 10:29 nman3600 i spent hours making hay bale perfect 10:29 nman3600 making it all fancy and have neat textures 10:30 kaeza or you could somehow detect when carbone is being used and not define or overwrite the other (for the sake of craft recipes) 10:32 * PenguinDad is stacking books in a bookshelf 10:34 whiskers75 Jordach: fine, https://mediacru.sh/2b0a70ff1d4d 10:38 Jordach :D 10:57 whiskers75 pls2slap Jordach 10:58 * ^EOF slaps Jordach around a bit with a 02r12a06i13n05b04o07w 08t03r09o10u11t02! 10:58 Jordach NO BOTS 10:58 Jordach I ALREADY WARNED YOU 10:59 PenguinDad pls2pony ^EOF 10:59 * ^EOF slaps ^EOF around a bit with a 05r04a07i08n03b09o10w 11d02a12s06h13! 11:06 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=142588#p142588 11:06 Krock !title 11:06 MinetestBot Krock: [Mod] An other lua mapgen [noisetest] - Minetest Forums 11:09 BlockMen we need an adbot that posts randomly topics :P 11:10 Krock LOl 11:10 Krock whatever, I added a v6-like ore generation 11:10 Krock only caves missing 11:20 nman3600 hey 11:20 nman3600 v.0.1 of my mod is out 11:20 nman3600 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9334 11:23 whiskers75 pls2part because Jordach says so 11:23 kaeza you're no fun :< 11:24 whiskers75 me? 11:24 whiskers75 or Jordach? 11:24 kaeza second 11:24 Jordach we did have rules on unauthorised bots 11:25 whiskers75 Jordach: 'did'? 11:26 * PenguinDad hands whiskers75 a faked bot authorization certificate 11:27 * whiskers75 gives it to Jordach 11:27 * whiskers75 waits 11:27 moli|2 hi all. i am searching for some parameter to increase the abundancy of minerals; e.g. iron ore, mese stone. i do not seem to find any way of tuning these paramerters, so are these hard-coded? 11:28 kaeza moli|2, hi. these parameters are set in their respective register_ore() calls in their *.lua files 11:28 moli|2 oh, not in the world, then 11:28 kaeza you can change them if you want :) 11:29 moli|2 it is mostly for testing, but without having to go creative 11:29 moli|2 (when my son plays, i think it is a bit too creative in creative mode :-) 11:29 kaeza heh 11:30 moli|2 but too hard to get resources in survival mode when testing stuff 11:30 moli|2 so i find the .lua files with the installation and the mods? 11:31 kaeza yes, just Ctrl+F for register_ore somewhere in minetest_game/mods/default/ (or other mods you may be using) 11:32 kaeza here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/mapgen.lua#L34 11:32 moli|2 kaeza: nice! thanks a bunch! 11:32 kaeza sure :) 11:33 kaeza invrease clust_num_ores and/or clust_size and that should do what you want 11:34 kaeza increase, even 11:34 moli|2 kaeza: this is then not isolated to just one test-world, as i understand it, right? 11:34 kaeza changing the game changes it for all future generated terrain 11:35 kaeza if you want to isolate, copy games/minetest_game/ to worlds/yourworld/game/ and modify 11:35 moli|2 yes ... so i should be a bit conservative there :) 11:35 moli|2 ok. thanks for that tip! 11:35 moli|2 will do 11:36 moli|2 could i copy just mapgen.lua? or does it need the whole of the hierarchy? 11:37 kaeza it needs the whole thing 11:37 moli|2 ok 11:37 kaeza I don't recall if copying just `default' mod to the world folder (as worlds/yourworld/worldmods/default) overrides the one in game 11:38 moli|2 i suppose just default should do the trick ... will try 11:39 moli|2 i would guess on worlds/yourworld/mods/default, not worldsmods ... ? 11:40 BlockMen bye 11:40 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix library link order b743dcb942 2014-05-24T13:39:27+02:00 http://git.io/ORaeVw 11:41 kaeza it's `worldmods' (dunno why this inconsistency) 11:41 moli|2 ok. thanks for all your help 11:41 kaeza sure :) 11:44 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Reduce log level for non npot2 texture warning message c1e297a90a 2014-05-24T13:42:52+02:00 http://git.io/5JEWtw 11:44 Jordach nomnomnom 11:44 Jordach hot chicken + mayo + french bread = noms 11:47 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Hide pause menu prior drawing "shutting down..." message 660e636887 2014-05-24T13:45:05+02:00 http://git.io/7aci0w 11:47 moli|2 kaeza: test result: works fine with just the pertinent mod in worldmods under the world folder 11:47 moli|2 thanks again! 11:48 kaeza glad to read :) 11:48 Jordach i clear my inbow for five seconds and more MT Github messages flow in 11:48 kaeza you're quite welcome :) 11:49 PenguinDad wow sapier is quite active today 11:49 * kaeza shoots an arrow to the knee with Jordach's inbow 11:49 Jordach PenguinDad, and saying no to every possible pull because he thinks he now owns the project 11:50 * Krock points at loggingbot_ 11:50 * kaeza points at #1324 11:51 * Krock points at his superdupermegaamazing mapgen 11:51 * whiskers75 tells Krock that it doesn't have caves 11:51 * Krock knows tha 11:51 * Krock -t 11:51 kaeza it's supercallifragilisticexpialidocious! 11:51 Krock marry poppins? 11:51 whiskers75 lol http://puu.sh/8YST0.png 11:52 kaeza haha! 11:57 Krock hmm.. we need a mod to create awesome mod names 12:02 whiskers75 lol 12:48 Krock !tell w_laenger https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=142596#p142596 the edit part 12:48 MinetestBot Krock: I'll pass that on when w_laenger is around 13:36 reactor гДПЮБЯГБСИРЕ! 13:36 PenguinDad Flüsse! 13:38 reactor пЫЙВЛБ ЧЧПДБ-ЧЩЧПДБ. 13:57 * PenguinDad lowers his font size a bit 13:58 reactor john_minetest: how's the science? 14:00 sfan5 john_minetest: sounds like irrlicht is using it's built-in font 14:00 sfan5 john_minetest: screenshot? 14:05 Krock @ 2 hours ago post - finally got caves generating. well, they're not very realistic but... caves :D 14:05 sfan5 yep 14:06 sfan5 that is irrlicht's built-in font 14:06 sfan5 recompile irrlicht with png loader support 14:10 Exio4 archlinux? 14:10 sfan5 try recompiling latest-svn irrlicht 14:10 sfan5 +with 14:14 reactor john_minetest: bad fontconfig cache? 14:15 reactor rm -rf .fontconfig .cache/fontconfig; fc-cache 14:15 sfan5 irrlicht does not use fontconfig 14:16 sfan5 reactor: irrlicht uses .png fonts 14:16 reactor That was just a monkey-guess. You know more about it. 14:16 sfan5 john_minetest: can you try forcing minetest to use freetype fonts? (try freetype = true) 14:16 reactor john_minetest: access modes? 14:16 reactor libpng gone bad? 14:19 Megaf Hi all 14:19 Megaf Hi sfan5 reactor john_minetest 14:19 Krock hi alone 14:19 Megaf How are things? 14:19 Megaf Hello Krock 14:19 reactor Hi Megaf. 14:19 * sfan5 purrs 14:19 CraigyDavi hi Megaf 14:19 Megaf Hey :) 14:19 reactor Things are getting better (r)(tm)(c) 14:19 * CraigyDavi barks 14:20 Megaf Now, let's see if I will continue happy or will get sad 14:20 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003 14:20 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (752ms) 14:20 Megaf Yup, still happy 14:20 reactor john_minetest just discovered the wonders of using OS mail to deliver remote mail? 14:24 * sfan5 curls up to john_minetest's lap 14:24 Megaf How do you say hello in German? 14:24 reactor Hallo? 14:25 Megaf In a even more informal way 14:25 reactor Tschues! 14:25 Megaf heh 14:25 reactor That's like "ciao". 14:26 Megaf [100%] Built target minetest 14:26 Megaf real 1m26.885s 14:27 Megaf time to compile minetest client 14:29 Krock l o l 14:29 o l Krock l 14:29 Krock ^^ 14:35 Megaf man, there's a dead player on my server, it's been 4 days, no moves, no words 14:35 Krock KICK 14:36 Megaf Krock; That's the crazy part, I restarted the server several times 14:36 Krock a bugbot then 14:36 Megaf He joins the server and still a motionless thing 14:37 reactor banbanbanbanban 14:37 PenguinDad that's something for the mythbusters then ;) 14:38 rubenwardy Hi all! 14:38 rubenwardy Time for SH1 14:38 rubenwardy *SH2 14:40 PenguinDad Shotgun 2? 14:40 PenguinDad s/Shotgun/Shogun/ 14:41 reactor Megaf: does teleporting the player work? 14:41 Megaf reactor; yep 14:41 Megaf I kicked him 14:53 reactor Tens lines of "supplied wrong password". Gees, people! 14:53 rubenwardy PenguinDad: StrongHold 14:53 reactor Nobody's going to do auth.txt pruning on a daily basis! 14:54 reactor Some form of account aging should be implemented, I think. 14:55 MrBeNNy PenguinDad hmmm 14:55 MrBeNNy I'll have to ask Penguin :D 14:57 raffahacks Hi 14:57 Krock hi 14:58 MrBeNNy hi 14:58 raffahacks Does mod store work now? 15:00 raffahacks What will we have i 0.5? 15:00 raffahacks In 15:00 rubenwardy 0.4.* is the modding API 15:00 rubenwardy 0.5.* - who knows 15:01 raffahacks Thank you 15:01 rubenwardy I am guessing advanced map generation and VAE 15:01 MrBeNNy Keurig Machines 15:01 sfan5 in 0.5 we'll have maps 15:01 rubenwardy (Voxel Area Entities) 15:01 sfan5 block* 15:01 sfan5 nodes** 15:01 raffahacks Builtin mese? 15:02 PenguinDad 0.4.10 will have fixes! 15:02 Krock <3 MT how it is right now (except of 666 bugs) 15:03 raffahacks Minetest's mods are quite buggy... 15:03 Krock untrue 15:03 Krock intrue 15:03 Krock false 15:03 * sfan5 flips Krock 15:03 Jordach MrBeNNy, wikipedia'd Keurig Machines and got coffee machines 15:03 raffahacks For example, cannot compare mese and redstone 15:04 Krock s/mese/mesecons 15:05 PenguinDad Redstone sucks because there aren't any advanced gates 15:05 raffahacks You're right 15:06 Krock I'd have a mod to test if t's buggy too... 15:06 Krock it's* 15:08 raffahacks Do you find mesecons stable? 15:09 Krock mesecons never threw me errors at all 15:10 raffahacks But they aren't fast. I cannot build a mese pc, but i can with redstone 15:10 raffahacks In a harder way ;) 15:10 Krock I can not build anything with redstone 15:11 Krock MC's requirements are too high for my PC 15:12 * Krock repeats like the 1337th time 15:12 raffahacks Are mt requirements lower? 15:12 Krock MUCH lower 15:12 raffahacks Wow... Didn't think 15:12 Krock there are WORLDS in between them 15:12 Krock like a sandcorn and the sun 15:12 raffahacks Why did mt crash (segmentation fault) on fedora on allwinner a20? 15:12 Krock (okay that's too big difference) 15:13 Krock raffahacks, too high octaves at perlin noise? 15:13 Krock well, it can have serval reasons 15:13 PenguinDad Minetest+ looks so old 15:14 Krock Minetest from 0.3.1 looks so old 15:15 PenguinDad 0.3.1 doesn't look that old 15:15 Jordach and it turns out i might end up with Fibre with 75mb down and 25mb up by Sept. 2015 :D 15:17 PenguinDad Jordach: 75 mb really? 15:17 Jordach yarp 15:18 PenguinDad !c 75 * 8 15:18 MinetestBot 600 15:18 PenguinDad 600 mbit O_O 15:18 rubenwardy I think he means 75 megabits down 15:18 rubenwardy !c 75/8 15:18 MinetestBot 9 15:19 rubenwardy 9 MB (mega bytes) 15:19 Krock !c 75/8 + ' MB (mega bytes)' 15:19 MinetestBot TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for +: 'int' and 'str' 15:20 MrBeNNy Jordach -- Yes, we need them. Must have COFFEE :D 15:20 Krock !c 75/8 + " MB (mega bytes)" 15:20 MinetestBot TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for +: 'int' and 'str' 15:20 Krock :( 15:20 PenguinDad !c tostr(75/8) + ' MB (mega bytes)' 15:20 MinetestBot NameError: name 'tostr' is not defined 15:20 PenguinDad !c tostring(75/8) + ' MB (mega bytes)' 15:20 MinetestBot NameError: name 'tostring' is not defined 15:21 rubenwardy https://github.com/RHRhino/meintest D: 15:21 rubenwardy !c str(75/8) + ' MB (mega bytes)' 15:21 MinetestBot '9 MB (mega bytes)' 15:21 rubenwardy Learn python, b1tches, 15:22 Calinou hi 15:22 Calinou MC's requirements are too high for my PC 15:22 Calinou it doesn't deserve being played 15:22 PenguinDad rubenwardy: 'unsertest' is better :P 15:23 Krock Calinou, let me say it clearer: "MC does not start on my PC" 15:24 Calinou yeah 15:24 Krock rubenwardy, why "D:"? 15:24 Calinou doesn't change my opinion on Minecraft 15:24 rubenwardy meintest - the pun is silly 15:25 Krock rubenwardy: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2014-05-24#i_3717816 15:51 SoniEx2 VanessaE, u there? 16:05 * Calinou installed http://dev.carrois.com/fira-3-1/ 16:06 Jordach is that the mozilla font 16:07 Calinou yes 16:49 LemonLake Anyone know how I can hide players names? 16:51 Krock unlimited_player_transfer_distance = false 16:51 LemonLake That hides players over a distance, too. 16:52 LemonLake I'm making a game that requires long-distance viewing of players, but the names should only be visible when close. 16:52 Krock that thing got requested so manytimes 16:52 LemonLake I would make a pull request if I could recompile the game without fail. 16:52 Krock get a compiled version= 16:52 Krock ?? 16:53 LemonLake No, I would have to recompile it then create a pull request. 16:53 LemonLake I can edit it fine. The awkward part is also having people update their games, since nobody does that anymore. 16:54 LemonLake I suppose another option would be to place nodes where a long-distance player is, however there is no way to make client-side nodes afaik 16:54 Krock game or minetest engine? 16:54 LemonLake Depends what. I'm making a game in the engine. I would make a pull request on the engine. 16:57 LemonLake I did hear that the skins mod could do it, however I checked the code to no evidence of it. 16:58 Krock impossible AFAIK 16:59 LemonLake Do you reckon it'd be a problem if you could see players names in a large battlefield? 16:59 LemonLake And also in situations in sniper battles, etc? 16:59 asl beech tree sapling is impossible to get through normal means? 16:59 Krock asl, that means, you need to modify the codes 17:00 Krock I did it and it works on my server 17:00 Krock beech trees are a bit bigger than normal 17:01 LemonLake Well, with hope they'll add it in a future update. I'll have to try my hand at recompiling the game again until then, I'll have to get my Linux working again. Thanks anyway! 17:51 Krock http://imgur.com/gallery/PYdu6W7 17:56 Krock http://imgur.com/gallery/j4z61uI 18:21 ShadowNinja !c tostring(75/8) + ' MB (mega bytes)' 18:21 ShadowNinja []eval tostring(75/8)..' MB (mega bytes)' 18:21 MTLuaBot "9.375 MB (mega bytes)" 18:21 ShadowNinja :-) 18:22 VanessaE heh 18:25 rubenwardy []eval error("Help!") 18:25 rubenwardy []eval "hello" 18:25 rubenwardy oh 18:25 rubenwardy XD 18:25 rubenwardy gtg 18:25 Krock .. 18:26 * sfan5 meows 18:27 VanessaE hey 18:30 ShadowNinja ~tell rubenwardy eval isn't sandboxed, so it's obviously owner-only. I'd like to add a non-sandboxed version, but I'll either have to add threading support(hard) or blacklist keyworks like "for", "while", "repeat", "until", and "function"(ugly). I'll need to implement threading in the long run for title fetching and the like anyway. 18:30 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: O.K. 18:32 nman3600 hi 18:32 nman3600 have you checked out my mod? 18:32 Megaf !seen nekofire 18:32 MinetestBot Megaf: Sorry, I haven't seen nekofire around. 18:33 nman3600 !seen nman3600 18:33 MinetestBot nman3600: nman3600 was last seen at 2014-05-24 18:32:33 UTC on #minetest 18:33 nman3600 i'm right here 18:38 PenguinDad !seen Pinky 18:38 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Sorry, I haven't seen pinky around. 18:39 PenguinDad I guess you haven't seen Brain too 18:40 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad 18:41 * PenguinDad pets sfan5 18:41 * sfan5 purrs 18:48 VanessaE 18:48 VanessaE (or whatever it was Pinky always said in response to the usual "pondering" query) 18:49 Jordach what we do every night, Pinky 18:50 VanessaE nonono 18:50 VanessaE SAME THING we do every night 18:50 * nman3600 feeds sfan5 milk 18:50 * sfan5 does not react 18:50 * nman3600 strokes sfan5 18:50 Krock "feed", is that the right word? 18:50 * sfan5 does not react 18:51 * nman3600 hits sfan5 for being naughty 18:51 * sfan5 slaps nman3600 18:51 * john_minetest feeds Krock RSS 18:51 * Krock pokes 18:51 * john_minetest stabs 18:51 VanessaE I was referring to the other running gag, "Are you pondering what I'm pondering, Pinky?" "Uh, I think so brain, but where/what are we going to _____ at this time of night?" 18:51 * nman3600 strokes sfan5 while saying sorry 18:51 kaeza C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER 18:51 * sfan5 purrs 18:52 * nman3600 hands sfan5 milk 18:52 * sfan5 noms the milk 18:52 * sfan5 throws bytes at john_minetest 18:53 * nman3600 hands sfan5 a bowl of milk and the bowl is made of milk aswell 18:53 * sfan5 noms nman3600 18:53 nman3600 AHHH 18:53 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a <'((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((--~~~ 18:54 * sfan5 is busy 18:54 * kaeza calls forth Blue-Eyes White Dragon 18:54 * john_minetest chooses Nyuzanryu! 18:55 * kaeza plays Candy Box 2 18:55 Jordach shit i've learned today: video editing 18:55 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/mLlpY5Y4pshA.png 18:56 Guest61188 Hi, guys, 18:56 Jordach maybe ;) 18:56 Jordach got a whole summer of free time coming up 18:57 zat wtf with pewDIEpie... my girlfriend is always watching his videos. 18:57 Guest61188 I just got minetest. But I don't see any animals like in minecraft. How do I get them? I have Bodhi, Linux, sort of like Ubuntu. 18:57 sfan5 Guest42825: install mobf, simple mobs or creatured mod 18:58 Guest61188 Is that me you're talking to? 18:58 sfan5 oh.. yes 18:59 Guest61188 so how do I do that? sorry. not to good with linux yet either. 18:59 VanessaE sfan5: can you prepare new builds please? :) 18:59 sfan5 VanessaE: why? | yes I can 18:59 sfan5 Guest61188: http://wiki.minetest.net/Installing_mods 18:59 sfan5 VanessaE: (I don't need a reason, just asking) 19:00 Guest61188 oh thanks for the link. 19:00 VanessaE just need to point someone at a recent windows build, and yours are the most recent (but still a few days old yet; Blockmen's are even older) 19:00 VanessaE someone trying to run Dreambuilder but their version is too old to run it 19:01 VanessaE I'm not sure how old you can go and still have that game work properly :) 19:02 sfan5 VanessaE: ok, I'll make new ones 19:02 VanessaE thanks a bunch 19:11 VanessaE oh, btw, are you aware that you drop the first digit from the git commit ID, in your filenames? 19:13 sfan5 I do? 19:13 VanessaE uh huh 19:13 VanessaE minetest-0.4.9-3e5bc9c-win64.7z but the commit id is _7_3e5bc9c 19:13 sfan5 o.O 19:14 sfan5 how does that happen? 19:14 VanessaE idk, I just now noticed it myself 19:15 sfan5 ah 19:15 sfan5 I used git show | head -c 15 | tail -c7 instead of git show | head -c 17 | tail -c7 19:15 sfan5 oh wait 19:15 sfan5 I used git show | head -c 15 | tail -c7 instead of git show | head -c 14 | tail -c7 19:15 VanessaE I figured it might be an off-by-1 glitch 19:16 sfan5 *fixes build script* 19:16 sfan5 now I have to upload that 50mb backup of my minetest-builds stuff to dropbox again 19:16 sfan5 *sigh* 19:18 VanessaE sowwy, wish I'd spotted it sooner :( 19:18 sfan5 no, it's ok 19:18 sfan5 both builds (32b & 64b) already uploading 19:19 * VanessaE looks at her revised backup script. jesus toast, an hour and a half to map 7 worlds because Survival is so bloody huge :) 19:19 VanessaE http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7511699/ 19:19 VanessaE (that's not running the official mapper) 19:20 VanessaE and it's "Sunday" because I had to test the part that readies the weekly downloadable maps part) 19:20 sfan5 you could try saving the map using gzip -1 first and then recompressing it like cat backup.tmp.tar.gz | gzip -d | xz -z -9 > backup.tar.xz in the background 19:20 VanessaE tried that. the disk load alone is horrendous :( 19:21 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/stats.html 19:21 sfan5 1) pay money 2) add SSD 3) ??? 4) profit 19:21 VanessaE yep, I thought about that 19:21 VanessaE I am so spoiled by the SSD in my home PC :) 19:23 sfan5 32b build finished uploading, 64b one at 56% 19:24 sfan5 lftp is awesome 19:24 sfan5 the only command line ftp client with the same feature set as filezilla 19:24 sfan5 and easy to use too 19:24 sfan5 I initally used it because I wanted a scriptable command line ftp client that supported tls 19:26 kat_ Guys, I went to that link about how to get mods. Ummm I don't get it. sorry, linux newby here. So, I am using Bodhi, a linux similar to Ubuntu. I went into the Minetest section for mods and saw that I could go to the mod store and download a mod, but it didn't download for me, but said there was an error. Can anybody help a dummy like me? No one is on the Bodhi channel right now. 19:26 kat_ and they won't help on Ubuntu 19:27 VanessaE kat: better to just download mods from the Minetest forums instead. It's easy to do. 19:27 Krock kat_,that's a MT problem 19:27 sfan5 you are using a system-wide installation of Minetest, right? 19:28 kat_ ummm "system-wide"? I got a ppa (something) command for minetest online that I trusted and put it in the terminator. It seems to run real good except there are no animals. 19:28 sfan5 yes, that is a system-wide installation 19:28 kat_ o.k. 19:28 sfan5 just download the mods from the forum 19:29 kat_ o.k. will do thanks! 19:29 Megaf VanessaE; does you server have an UI so players can change theier skins? 19:30 VanessaE no, but players can send skins or skin links to me and I will install them 19:30 Megaf hm 19:30 sfan5 VanessaE: 19:30 sfan5 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1523&p=142642#p142642 19:30 sfan5 damn you Ctrl+C 19:30 Megaf Vazon uses a mod with changeble skins 19:31 VanessaE \o/ 19:31 Krock Megaf, me too!!!! 19:32 Krock omg 19:32 Megaf whats that mod? 19:32 Krock u_skins, simple_skins, *skins* 19:33 VanessaE I use player_textures 19:33 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3587 19:33 Krock This was the target: >>mod with changeble skins<< 19:34 VanessaE just saying what I use... 19:34 VanessaE eekj! 19:34 Krock ok 19:34 Megaf Thanks VanessaE 19:34 Megaf now, let be get more carrot cake 19:37 VanessaE crap, build failure of minetest for me ... 19:37 Megaf weird 19:37 Megaf I built a fresh one from master a couple of hours ago 19:37 VanessaE http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7511747/ 19:38 Megaf VanessaE; wheres that irrlight is from? 19:38 * Megaf The Grammar Killer 19:38 VanessaE it's the one included with Xubuntu 14.04 19:38 Megaf VanessaE; where did you get irrlicht from? 19:39 Megaf ok 19:39 Megaf VanessaE; get the latest from Irrlicht 19:39 VanessaE no. 19:39 VanessaE that's not the Minetest way. 19:39 Megaf http://sourceforge.net/projects/irrlicht/files/Irrlicht%20SDK/1.8/1.8.1/irrlicht-1.8.1.zip 19:57 SoniEx2 VanessaE, hi mind if I pm? 19:57 VanessaE sure. 19:57 VanessaE Megaf: you guessed wrong. 19:57 VanessaE http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7511835/ 19:58 Megaf pff, just more bugs... 19:58 VanessaE any large project will have lots of bugs 19:58 VanessaE it's inevitable. 19:59 VanessaE back off to commit 3939ab6c9d and it's fine. 20:02 Krock try{ sfan5 . compile( https://github.com/Rogier-5/minetest-mapper-cpp ) } catch {} 20:03 Jordach >Uploading 4% 456 minutes remaining. 20:03 Jordach >.< 20:03 Krock Jordach, uploading 1TB or what? 20:03 Jordach 600mb YT video 20:03 Krock ugh, use converters! 20:04 Krock to make it smaller 20:04 Jordach (i don't see how they upload 20 minutes at mp4 and at 1080p with decent quality and without obvious loss) 20:04 Krock k, forget what I said 20:12 Megaf LazyJ; Hi there :) gold still building there 20:12 Megaf hes been online for several hours today 20:32 sfan5| Internet broke! :( 20:32 sfan5| Dann ISP 20:33 sfan5| Damn* 20:33 Krock ~seen Krock 20:33 ShadowBot Krock: I saw Krock in #minetest 0 seconds ago saying "~seen Krock" 20:33 Krock try{ sfan5 . compile( https://github.com/Rogier-5/minetest-mapper-cpp ) } catch {} 20:34 sfan5| Nah 20:34 sfan5| Not now 20:34 Krock ok 20:34 sfan5| Internet's broken 20:34 Krock never said right now..also can be tomorrow 20:38 smoke_fumus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlTA3rnpgzU 20:39 Jordach silly sfan5 20:41 Megaf VanessaE; I just cloned it again and compiled, no problem at all 20:41 Megaf cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DBUILD_SERVER=0 -DENABLE_LEVELDB=0 -DENABLE_REDIS=0 20:41 VanessaE you're compiling for ARM, not intel. 20:41 Megaf actually Im on amd64 20:42 * VanessaE shrugs 20:42 VanessaE different distro, different libs order 20:42 Megaf Debian Wheezy 20:43 Megaf apt-cache show libirrlicht-dev 20:43 Megaf Version: 1.7.3+dfsg1-4 20:43 Megaf Architecture: amd64 20:44 Megaf I will compile and try with the latest irrlicht 20:44 Megaf compiling irrlicht 20:45 Megaf done 20:52 Megaf VanessaE; your xubuntu irrlicht is borked 20:52 Megaf http://paste.debian.net/101628/ 20:54 Megaf VanessaE; was irrlicht updated recentely? 20:54 VanessaE idk 20:54 VanessaE and this is irrlicht 1.8 I think. 20:55 VanessaE and it works fine from commit 3939ab6c9d on down. 20:55 VanessaE sapier broke it by swapping the order of some libs in the linker 20:55 Megaf whats your xubuntu version? 20:55 VanessaE it's not irrlicht 20:55 VanessaE (and it's xubuntu 14.04) 20:56 Megaf 1.8.1 then http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/trusty/irrlicht 20:56 VanessaE it's. not. irrlicht. 20:57 Megaf ok, but its interesting, ubuntu uses the very same package of Debian very unstable SID, https://packages.debian.org/source/sid/libs/irrlicht 20:57 VanessaE linkers can behave differently from one distro to another 20:58 VanessaE that's where the error lies, here. 20:58 VanessaE the code compiles just fine 20:59 Megaf proller__; wont you say that freeminer works and its better? 21:02 diemartin real brogrammers don't need no sleep! 21:04 zat no + no = yes 21:08 nman3600 hi 21:08 VanessaE hi 21:09 nman3600 have you checked out my mod (multitest)? 21:09 VanessaE not familiar. 21:10 nman3600 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9334 21:10 VanessaE interesting. 21:11 nman3600 i worked hard on it 21:12 nman3600 idk what to add in the next update 21:15 nman3600 107 gb left on my hardrive :D i cleared loads of it today 21:18 VanessaE khonkhortisan: what's the disposition of https://github.com/VanessaE/plantlife/issues/3 ? 21:34 sfan5 MinetestBot! 21:34 MinetestBot sfan5! 21:34 sfan5 :O 21:36 MinetestBot GIT: kaeza commited to minetest/minetest: Sort commands and privs alphabetically in '/help'. f0a9e7ddc8 2014-05-24T17:33:59-04:00 http://git.io/liLaqg 21:36 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Rework dumping functions 882e12f8ab 2014-05-24T17:32:42-04:00 http://git.io/EPAndQ 21:48 Calinou https://mediacru.sh/886bd31d30a4 21:50 Jordach ...is that Garry's Mod? 22:02 Calinou no :> 22:02 Vazon VanessaE 22:03 * VanessaE hides 22:03 Vazon lol i have a version of my mod that has the ladder on it. 22:03 VanessaE screenies? 22:04 Vazon last night you said you may want to make a new textrue for it on your hd texture pack so i made a dropbox download for you :| 22:05 VanessaE ok shoot 22:05 zsoltisa1esome hi 22:05 Vazon https://www.dropbox.com/s/1hru2rdhj7lth8e/vcore.zip 22:05 VanessaE hi zs 22:05 Vazon hi zsolt 22:05 zsoltisa1esome Why use Windows when you can have air conditioning? 22:05 zsoltisa1esome Why use Windows, when you can leave through the door? 22:05 zsoltisa1esome -- Konrad Blum 22:05 Calinou bye, night 22:05 zsoltisa1esome :D 22:06 Vazon bye Calinou 22:06 zsoltisa1esome hmm 22:06 VanessaE vcore.zip? interesting name. 22:07 VanessaE I don't think that's the link you wanted to send me :) 22:07 Vazon mhmm let me look xD 22:07 zsoltisa1esome VanessaE: a more interesting name is EoelWuOqA72g.zip 22:07 zsoltisa1esome lol 22:07 zsoltisa1esome and even more interesting, 42.zip 22:08 * zsoltisa1esome laughs 22:08 VanessaE heh 22:08 zsoltisa1esome VanessaE: you know? 22:08 VanessaE well everyone knows what 42 means 22:08 * VanessaE hands zsoltisa1esome a towel and a babelfish. 22:08 zsoltisa1esome lol 22:10 Vazon https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/vcore.zip?_subject_uid=223698452&w=AAACzdfOZf7Q4XbyCvi4AyiFTi-GIbzFWijKDlbu4xe9Ag&dl=1 mhmmm is that it? 22:10 Vazon im not good with dropbox. 22:10 zsoltisa1esome http://unforgettable.dk/ 22:10 zsoltisa1esome ^ VanessaE 22:10 VanessaE Vazon: FAIL 22:11 * Vazon facepalms 22:11 * zsoltisa1esome headdesk 22:11 * CraigyDavi deskpalms 22:12 VanessaE zsoltisa1esome: errrr..... 22:12 VanessaE um. yeah,. 22:13 CraigyDavi zsoltisa1esome, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Egq_Wyvfwk0l.png 22:13 CraigyDavi That's what happens when you try to extract 22:14 zsoltisa1esome hmm 22:14 zsoltisa1esome i cant see it 22:14 zsoltisa1esome wait 22:15 zsoltisa1esome ah 22:16 CraigyDavi Errors 22:16 zsoltisa1esome windows is full of them 22:17 CraigyDavi Nah 22:21 Vazon and this is why i hate dropbox -.- 22:21 zsoltisa1esome use MEGA 22:21 zsoltisa1esome hjhmm 22:25 CraigyDavi What's so bad about dropbox? it's great 22:26 Vazon i cant ever find a stupid download link -.- 22:28 Vazon i cant get one that works for me but no one else 22:28 Vazon can* 22:30 Exio4 hasta que no te pase a vos... no vas a entender, siempre asi, tan egoista, hasta que no te pase a vos.. no vas a entender, clasico, individualista~ 22:34 Vazon VanessaE: https://dl.dropbox.com/get/vcore.zip?_subject_uid=223698452&w=AAACzdfOZf7Q4XbyCvi4AyiFTi-GIbzFWijKDlbu4xe9Ag&dl=1 try that 22:34 CraigyDavi Vazon, just find the file in "my files" click it. Then click "share" in the topr right corner and copy the link 22:35 zsoltisa1esome yes 22:35 zsoltisa1esome what he said 22:35 VanessaE Vazon: FAIL 22:35 Vazon craigy that doesnt work, i have tried it 22:35 VanessaE and why "vcore"? this doesn't sound like the 3d ladders thing at all 22:36 Vazon VanessaE there is more than just 3d ladders in it, it has other parts as well 22:36 CraigyDavi What do you mean "doesnt work"? When you click it does it not bring up the file with a download link? 22:36 zsoltisa1esome That sounds iffy 22:36 VanessaE ah 22:37 Vazon Craigy for me yes but not for everyone else 22:37 zsoltisa1esome !rainbow Dropbox! I command you to work! 22:37 MinetestBot 4D4r4o7p7b7o8x8!8 3I3 3c12o12m12m6a6n6d13 13y13o4u4 4t7o7 7w8o8r8k3! 22:37 Megaf Vazon; ! 22:37 Vazon yes Megaf? 22:37 Megaf Hi 22:37 Megaf :) 22:37 Megaf Vazon; what's the name of that skin mod you are using? 22:38 Vazon unified skins, megaf but its a out dated version that has been modifed 22:38 CraigyDavi Vazon, Right click on it and select "share link" 22:38 Vazon VanessaE: https://dl.dropbox.com/s/1hru2rdhj7lth8e/vcore.zip 22:38 Megaf ok 22:38 Vazon Craigy i have tried that, it will not work 22:38 zsoltisa1esome ^ there you go VanessaE 22:39 zsoltisa1esome CraigyDavi: 22:39 zsoltisa1esome become my humble slave! 22:39 zsoltisa1esome jk 22:40 zsoltisa1esome tab? 22:40 zsoltisa1esome asie|tab: ^ 22:40 asie|tab hi 22:40 asie|tab tablet 22:40 zsoltisa1esome ah 22:40 zsoltisa1esome lucky 22:49 Megaf little help? http://paste.debian.net/101637/ 22:49 Megaf with skinsdb mod 22:50 Vazon VanessaE: i gtg for about 2 hours, i hope you like hte mod. I would be fine if you make any tweaks to it, the chest code isnt mine. i couldnt get it coded to be locked so that is one of the main reasons i havent published it yet 22:51 ShadowNinja Megaf: Probably a Python2->3 incompatibility. Try it with the other version. 22:52 Megaf ShadowNinja; tried python2.7 and 3.2 22:53 Megaf installing python 2.6 22:59 Megaf nope 22:59 Megaf didnt work 23:01 Megaf Updating 660e636..f0a9e7d 23:01 Megaf my minetest looks weird now 23:18 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Works for debian and a few other distributions but fails for even more so back to old order 7fba341dbb 2014-05-25T01:14:47+02:00 http://git.io/keCq2g 23:23 Vazon ok back 23:30 Vazon VanessaE did you like the 3d ladder or no? 23:34 VanessaE I haven't looked yet 23:34 VanessaE been kinda busy 23:39 Vazon ok