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00:10 Vazon !up 75.131.40.131
00:10 MinetestBot 75.131.40.131:30000 is up (134ms)
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00:59 SoniEx2 can minetest do C?
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01:21 ShadowNinja SoniEx2: Minetest is written in C++, so yes...
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02:09 Topic for #minetest is now Latest stable version is 0.4.9 | Please be patient, responses may take a while | Website: http://minetest.net | Rules: http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules | Development channel: #minetest-dev | Server list: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | IRC stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html
02:10 SoniEx2 ShadowNinja, I kinda wanna do the same thing I did with Java and Minecraft... but with C/C++ and Minetest instead...
02:10 ShadowNinja That library is libltdl: http://www.gnu.org/software/libtool/manual/libtool.html#Using-libltdl
02:10 SoniEx2 but because it's C/C++ it could go REALLY bad so I don't really wanna mess with it...
02:11 SoniEx2 hmm... I could just use a VM...
02:12 ShadowNinja memset(1, 0, pow(2, sizeof(size_t)));  Nothing could possibly go wrong.
02:13 ShadowNinja (Don't do that, it wipes all memory.  If your OS doesn't kill you for trying that is.)
02:13 SoniEx2 ShadowNinja, well now I'm tempted to try that just to see how the OS would handle it...
02:14 ShadowNinja SoniEx2: Well, apparently most OSes didn't complain when OpenSSL used memcpy on a large section of memory.  So it might just work.  You might have to start in your memory zone though.
02:14 ShadowNinja (From Heartbleed)
02:15 ShadowNinja But, G'Night.
02:15 SoniEx2 night
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03:25 stormchaser3000 hi
03:25 stormchaser3000 is anyone on
03:25 stormchaser3000 i need help with an error in the lua menu
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05:08 blaise there's an lua menu?
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06:14 AgentX Hello :)
06:17 AgentX Could someone help me test my server by just trying to connect to this ip? 192.168.1.51 port: 30000
06:18 AgentX Would be a great help :D
06:21 CraigyDavi AgentX, noone can connect to that. That's an internal IP.
06:22 AgentX I see
06:22 AgentX So it'd only work for an LAN?
06:22 CraigyDavi I believe so
06:22 CraigyDavi Just google "whats my ip"
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06:26 AgentX_ I'm sorry, chat froze, what was the last thing I sent to you CraigyDavi?
06:26 CraigyDavi <AgentX> So it'd only work for an LAN?
06:26 CraigyDavi <CraigyDavi> I believe so
06:26 CraigyDavi <CraigyDavi> Just google "whats my ip"
06:27 AgentX_ I see, okay. Well can you try to connect to this? 98.223.213.178
06:27 AgentX_ ugh not again
06:28 CraigyDavi Nope, not connecting
06:29 AgentX_ Okay thank you.
06:38 AgentX_ I'll be back in a bit
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07:01 VanessaE ~tell stormchaser3000 <stormchaser3000> i got an error with the lua main menu / http://pastebin.com/RdJRU5yw   <---   edit your minetest.conf to set:  public_serverlist = false
07:01 ShadowBot VanessaE: Error: Missing ">". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
07:01 VanessaE ~tell stormchaser3000 "<stormchaser3000> i got an error with the lua main menu / http://pastebin.com/RdJRU5yw <--- edit your minetest.conf to set: public_serverlist = false"
07:01 ShadowBot VanessaE: O.K.
07:02 VanessaE ~tell stormchaser3000 see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1297
07:02 ShadowBot VanessaE: O.K.
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07:17 * VanessaE wanders off again, this time to bed :P
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08:09 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Monday and happy Nurses Day! :-D
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09:07 AgentX Can anyone try to connect to: 98.223.213.178 with the port 30000? Would mean a lot. I'm trying to make sure the server is up and running
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09:20 ^Enki^ connected and working
09:20 ^Enki^ name's TestUser
09:20 AgentX Yeah I've noticed, 4 mins in and I have a few users already
09:20 AgentX Thanks though. :)
09:20 ^Enki^ you're welcome :)
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11:17 iamtew good afternoon :)
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11:38 ^Enki^ good afternoon iamtew
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12:29 kaeza mornings
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12:32 ^Enki^ morning kaeza
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12:50 crazyR hmm anyone the correct way to get the average of 3 numbers?
12:53 kaeza uhh... (a+b+c)/3 ?
12:53 crazyR figured it, thinks i need to sleep more
12:53 crazyR haha thanks,
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13:01 Mikerhinos hi
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13:12 kaeza hai Mikerhinos
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13:32 Krock HELLO
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13:56 CraigyDavi hi al
13:56 CraigyDavi *all
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13:58 Krock hi
13:58 zsoltisawesome Why are you mad?
13:59 Krock[MAD] Cuz something blocks my downloads
13:59 zsoltisawesome of what?
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13:59 Krock[MAD] of internet downloads
13:59 zsoltisawesome :P
13:59 Krock[MAD] hmm maybe I can download *.doc.. let's see
14:00 zsoltisawesome Krock[MAD]: Downloaded any torrents recently? :P
14:00 Krock[MAD] I don't have microTorrent
14:00 Krock[MAD] and lol...
14:00 Krock[MAD] it dosplays images online but I can't download them
14:00 Krock[MAD] strange
14:00 Krock[MAD] *displays
14:01 zsoltisawesome maybe its your browser?
14:01 zsoltisawesome DOSPlays!
14:01 zsoltisawesome XD
14:01 Krock[MAD] IE, FF, chrome, all have the same problem and google isn't enough intelligent to help me
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14:01 zsoltisawesome asie!
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14:02 Krock[MAD] ok, FTP downloads work over filezilla
14:02 zsoltisawesome Maybe your internet company is mad at you...
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14:03 zsoltisawesome i've had that happen before
14:03 Krock[MAD] zsoltisawesome, downloading websites (*.html) works.
14:03 zsoltisawesome lol
14:04 Krock[MAD] Also x files over the FTP client
14:04 Krock[MAD] Stupid settings
14:04 zsoltisawesome how about *.aspx and *.jsp
14:04 zsoltisawesome :P
14:04 zsoltisawesome and *.do
14:04 Krock[MAD] M$ uses aspx, so it must work
14:05 zsoltisawesome alot of other people use it too...
14:08 zsoltisawesome Imgur is a great source of laughs: http://imgur.com/1OVyNPB
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14:20 Krock[MAD] MOHAHA - netscape navigator creates a backdoor for the IE crap
14:20 Krock[MAD] <3
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14:31 * Krock[MAD] Krock[Netscape ftw]
14:31 * Krock[MAD] headdesks
14:31 * Krock[Netscape facehoofs
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14:37 jin_xi hmm, i really would like to test my mods on a server, but all i have is this crappy laptop. wat do?
14:37 Krock[Netscape jin_xi, help me.
14:37 zsoltisawesome Netscape?
14:37 zsoltisawesome does it work?
14:38 Krock[Netscape zsoltisawesome, does the MOSAIC webbrowser still work?
14:38 jin_xi Krock[Netscape: how could i?
14:38 Krock[Netscape jin_xi, no idea... maybe google a bit around. I have no idea what's causing this
14:39 Krock[Netscape that bug appeared right after I installed the missing updates - including IE8
14:39 jin_xi what bug? i must've missed it
14:39 jin_xi anyway, delete SYS32
14:39 jin_xi or so
14:40 Krock[Netscape fail
14:40 Krock[Netscape that's called C:\Windows\system32\*.*
14:40 jin_xi havent used any windows since win98
14:41 jin_xi so i am sorry but i cant help you with that
14:41 Krock[Netscape haha good old introducing USB under win98 se..
14:41 CraigyDavi jin_xi, how long do you need the mods up for?
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14:42 jin_xi CraigyDavi: not too long, basically to see if they work as intended, and how bad they work with lag and so
14:43 jin_xi but it would need to be a fresh world (to be sure nothing gets messed up)
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14:43 CraigyDavi Want me to add the mods to my test server?
14:43 zsoltisawesome Test server!
14:44 Krock[Netscape CraigyDavi, add mobs, technic, moretrees, pipeworks, mesecons...
14:44 jin_xi yes i would be very grateful, but i need a moment to properly push them
14:44 CraigyDavi jin_xi, That's fine. I'll add them when you are ready
14:45 jin_xi wow, thanks, i'll start preparing them now
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14:49 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
14:51 Krock[Netscape Hi AdamPilz
14:52 PenguinDad !madAzliP ih
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14:54 hoodedice Oi! Wikipedia allows VDrift to keep an article
14:54 hoodedice The only reference is Sourceforge
14:59 hoodedice !rainbow tumbleweed
14:59 MinetestBot 4t4u4m7b7l7e8w8e8e3d
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15:03 jin_xi CraigyDavi: ok, first mod to test here: https://github.com/obneq/tetris
15:06 CraigyDavi !up Test Server
15:06 MinetestBot CraigyDavi: Invalid Address
15:06 CraigyDavi !server Test Server
15:06 MinetestBot CraigyDavi: VanessaE's mostly-vanilla minetest_game server | digitalaudioconcepts.com:30005 | Clients: 5/50, 43 | Version: 0.4.9-dev | ping: 0.099
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15:06 CraigyDavi o_O
15:07 CraigyDavi !server Craig's Test Server
15:07 MinetestBot CraigyDavi: Craig's Test Server | craigd.24tails.com:30001 | Clients: 0/30, 0 | Version: 0.4.9-dev | ping: 0.031
15:07 CraigyDavi jin_xi, ^
15:07 Jordach ello
15:08 Jordach fuck it
15:08 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
15:08 Jordach joininh
15:08 Jordach s/h/g/
15:08 PenguinDad !server Fuck it
15:08 MinetestBot PenguinDad: No results
15:08 PenguinDad :)
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15:17 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/mF8CxRBq0GcQ.png
15:17 * Jordach is winning
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15:18 Jordach >netscape
15:18 Jordach NETSCAPE
15:18 Jordach nope.avi :D
15:18 CraigyDavi Nice score
15:18 jin_xi CraigyDavi: https://github.com/obneq/painting/
15:19 I_hate_urlmon_dl dll*
15:19 FreeFull How about a mod that simulates a mini minetest?
15:20 I_hate_urlmon_dl Computers mod
15:20 I_hate_urlmon_dl <-- this tiny file, urlmon.dll made me raging
15:20 CraigyDavi jin_xi, added the mod, server is up
15:20 I_hate_urlmon_dl I hear painting
15:21 Krock[Happy_agai n
15:22 jin_xi CraigyDavi: crash?
15:22 PenguinDad|NaCl Krock[Happy_agai: y u hate it?
15:22 CraigyDavi jin_xi, Yes: http://pastie.org/private/zemcieele0gjjhkyn1ajsg
15:23 Krock[Happy_agai PenguinDad|NaCl, that one disallowed me from downloading files from chrome, IE and FF. therefore I was Krock[Netscape once :)
15:23 Krock[Happy_agai Netscape doesn't listen to IE settings
15:23 jin_xi yes, i need to fix that.
15:24 CraigyDavi Hmm crashes server upon joining now
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15:27 jin_xi CraigyDavi: remember what you did? placed an empty picture i guess?
15:27 CraigyDavi Ah yes thats what i did
15:27 jin_xi idk if i should add more ifs or not_in_creative_inventory
15:28 jin_xi i think the latter is the solution
15:28 jin_xi or both?
15:31 CraigyDavi Yes you could remove it from creative inventory, to prevent what happened to me
15:32 CraigyDavi jin_xi, It's back up now
15:33 rubenwardy Hi all!
15:33 CraigyDavi hi rubenwardy
15:33 Krock[Happy_agai hi rubenwardy
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15:37 hoodedice john_minetest: You're doing it wrong
15:37 hoodedice Hello miners!
15:37 Krock[Happy_agai hi minetest_john
15:37 hoodedice EVERYTHING!
15:38 CraigyDavi http://i.imgur.com/baa17Cb.png
15:38 * CraigyDavi is bad at painting
15:38 Jordach <- Using Ubuntu :3
15:38 Krock[Happy_agai <- Using Win6.2 useragent
15:38 Jordach *provided i have a spotify client and not the shit browser
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15:41 jin_xi uh oh
15:41 Krock[Happy_agai !title
15:41 MinetestBot Krock[Happy_agai: Richard Stallman Talks About Ubuntu - YouTube
15:42 CraigyDavi jin_xi, back up. Seems to crash when removing easel whilst painting
15:43 jin_xi hmm, ok. thanks can you post error?
15:43 jin_xi it should not let you dig easel with a painting on.
15:44 hoodedice Editing the wiki page "Releasing Minetest" to include the fact that there is an MT twitter and google+ page, on which new releases must be announced
15:45 Jordach fyi - i actually like Unity
15:47 hoodedice http://imgur.com/gallery/UbdtUlu
15:49 CraigyDavi jin_xi, http://pastie.org/private/lvmzhosthqufy8o35yjja
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16:00 hoodedice core devs, is lua_api.txt latest, or dev.minetest.net?
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16:05 Jordach lua_api.txt
16:13 Krock[Happy_agai Is there a switch-like thing for lua?
16:15 * rubenwardy just set up mod_wsgi!
16:23 Jordach UGH
16:23 Jordach rain :<
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16:26 Jordach >Ubuntu >Can run IRC Mod
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16:27 PenguinDad|NaCl hmmm… Brony is a very small town
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16:38 Krock[Happy_agai <Jordach>>Ubuntu >Can run IRC Mod
16:38 Krock[Happy_agai WinXP >Can't run IRC Mod
16:38 Megaf Krock[Happy_agai, Good to know you are happy
16:38 Megaf I am not happy at all
16:39 Krock[Happy_agai I'm happy cuz I was totally unhappy before and I solved the problem I had, so I'm happy now
16:39 Krock[Happy_agai well, I must be neutral as before I had the problem
16:40 Krock Megaf, Y U no happy?
16:41 Megaf because minetest is slow and quite badly coded
16:41 Megaf that's why
16:41 Krock better MT than no 3D-blocky-game
16:41 Krock (which runs)
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16:53 Krock aagh..damn you github
16:53 Krock made changes now and didn't get the older commits... FUU
16:55 hoodedice =O
16:55 hoodedice Did Megaf say MT was slow? =O
16:57 Krock yes.
16:58 Exio4 it is
17:05 Jordach well, as it turns out, /admin <message> works
17:05 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/6LKpl-jntFK2.png
17:07 Krock Jordach, I don't get it.
17:07 Krock Oh *watches at background*
17:08 Jordach notice anytime someone uses /admin
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17:08 Jordach i get a pm from the server
17:08 Jordach you can also piss me off by doing that
17:09 Krock :D
17:09 Krock *opens MT*
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17:19 kaeza Jordach, https://gist.github.com/kaeza/10523909
17:23 Krock +1
17:27 Jordach hmm
17:27 Jordach for some reason my server isn't appearing on the masterlist
17:27 Jordach (what port does it need to communicate over?)
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17:28 Krock Jordach: server_announce = 1
17:28 Jordach Krock, done that
17:28 Jordach it does the announcing, but what TCP PORT does it use
17:29 Jordach i've kept an eye on joins and such
17:29 Krock Jordach, UDP -the port you like
17:29 Jordach wat?
17:29 Jordach server announce is failing
17:29 Krock You don't need to configure TCP
17:29 Krock also, serverlist_url = servers.minetest.net
17:29 Jordach 18:26:16: ACTION[ServerThread]: announcing to servers.minetest.net
17:30 Krock normal -^
17:31 Jordach Krock, server does NOT appear at servers.minetest.nbet
17:31 Jordach -b
17:31 Krock Jordach, keep it on for 2mins and it should appear
17:34 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/M0-kIPMAlM_n.png
17:35 * Jordach adds a port 80 opened port
17:37 Jordach and .conf settings
17:37 Jordach http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=RxXv0hcS
17:40 kaeza >~/Desktop/minetesserver
17:40 kaeza >minetesserver
17:40 Jordach typos!
17:41 kaeza you have creeper complex :3
17:41 kaeza minetessssssserver
17:45 * kaeza also slaps joepie91_ for using Unity
17:45 kaeza bleh
17:45 kaeza Jordach, ^^
17:47 Jordach it's like it doesn't pick up
17:49 Calinou nothing's really wrong with Unity
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17:49 Calinou it's fine to have new visions on the desktop
17:49 Calinou the Amazon stuff is less invasive by default as of 14.04 (and looks like it'll be opt-in in 14.10) and you can disable it.
17:50 Jordach Calinou, apparently it's opt-in right now
17:50 Calinou the only real issue it might have is gaming performance which may be a tad lower if you're not playing in fullscreen
17:50 Calinou eg. Xfce may be minutely faster
17:53 Jordach !up jordach.minetest.net
17:53 MinetestBot jordach.minetest.net:30000 is up (361ms)
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19:03 iamtew good evening :)
19:03 iamtew is there any way in minetest to adjust the fov?
19:04 Krock night'
19:04 iamtew and maybe display the fps
19:04 Krock F5
19:04 Krock minetest.conf.example
19:06 iamtew I'll take a look
19:07 iamtew thanks :)
19:07 * Jordach has a working server ;D
19:07 Jordach Krock, ^
19:07 Krock congrats, Jordach
19:13 Calinou iamtew, fov = N in minetest.conf, default 72
19:13 Calinou I use 75
19:17 * Jordach has a live BFD server
19:20 Jordach huh
19:20 Jordach kaeza, max lag = 0.3
19:21 * jin_xi plays nethack
19:24 kaeza would be fun to see a roguelike coded with formspecs
19:25 jin_xi idk, but i thought about running nethack along mt and make a portal to the dungeon
19:25 jin_xi use 3x3 rooms per nethack tile
19:26 jin_xi would be nice just to be able to see a 3d structure of a nethack game rendered
19:27 jin_xi after tetris mod im not sure minigames in formspecs are such a good idea
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20:53 Funish Hey, I just want to say Minetest is looking better then Minecraft after trying it for the first time :)
20:53 Funish From graphics to overall feel 10/10
20:54 CraigyDavi Glad you are enjoying it Funish :)
20:58 FreeFull This time when playing on Floatlands, I'll actually remember to /sethome
20:59 FreeFull Hey, snow biome
20:59 FreeFull I still wish there were saplings
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21:18 ^Enki^ LMAO
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21:23 microcarrot sfan5: 😸
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21:27 CraigyDavi hi Sakis25
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21:30 CraigyDavi Not much
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21:30 CraigyDavi !rainbow NYAN
21:30 MinetestBot 4N4Y4A7N
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21:33 microcarrot adventurous people: http://try.bbcollaborate.com/trial/p.go?pk=KceJo8koH9RuBZtg (java needed)
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21:36 microcarrot on
21:38 blaise !up 68.33.202.106
21:38 MinetestBot 68.33.202.106:30000 is up (257ms)
21:39 blaise PHUQ YEAH BABY
21:39 blaise IT'S ALIVE!!!
21:39 blaise MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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21:41 VanessaE naw
21:41 VanessaE it's not that bad
21:42 Sakis25 [deleted]
21:42 VanessaE sometimes the channel is just dead is all
21:42 VanessaE sometimes it gets quite animated.
21:42 VanessaE just depends on when you show up
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21:43 blaise maybe your irc client went insane and blacklisted everyone out on an ignore fest?
21:43 Sakis25 [deleted]
21:43 blaise fail
21:43 Sakis25 [deleted]
21:44 Sakis25 [deleted]
21:44 blaise it takes you time?
21:44 Sakis25 [deleted]
21:44 blaise I compile my client from source, and it takes about a half second.
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21:45 Sakis25 [deleted]
21:45 blaise cool story bro
21:45 Sakis25 [deleted]
21:45 * blaise gives Sakis25 the thumbs up
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22:06 blaise VanessaE: how do we list the users on our server?
22:08 VanessaE blaise: /status
22:08 VanessaE or from IRC,  YourBotName: players
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22:25 blaise I don't run an irc gateway yet
22:27 VanessaE oh well I run the irc mod on my servers.
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22:27 VanessaE so I can communicate with and control them without being in-game
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22:52 Vazon Hi guys
22:55 VanessaE hi
22:57 Vazon VanessaE
22:58 Vazon is there anyway to fix the player fiels not working from 0.4.8 to 0.4.9 dev?? i found a old server file i had and the player fiels wont work so i had to remove them but now people can log in as other people and change the passwords and get access to there builds
23:07 VanessaE I'm not sure really
23:07 VanessaE I've never had that happen
23:07 VanessaE why did you remove auth.txt?
23:07 VanessaE that's what keeps players from logging in as one another
23:11 Vazon no??? since when does it keep passwords?
23:12 Vazon o wait .. nvm
23:12 Vazon xD brain fart
23:12 VanessaE it always has.
23:13 Vazon ya i know for somereason i was thinking i was talking about something else
23:13 VanessaE the player files in worlds/YourWorldName/players/  only keep the inventories and player positions and such.
23:13 Vazon ya
23:13 VanessaE the passwords and privs are all kept in auth.txt
23:13 VanessaE (and the passwords are hashed of course)
23:17 Vazon ya i remeber now. thanks :D
23:23 Vazon ok VanessaE when i put the right auth.txt it just reverts back to the wrong one?
23:25 VanessaE shut the server down first.
23:25 Vazon i have
23:25 VanessaE and make sure the auth.txt isn't bugged
23:26 VanessaE you know, corrupt, et
23:26 VanessaE etc
23:26 VanessaE and make sure you're replacing the correct one
23:26 VanessaE e.g. that you're targeting the correct world
23:26 Vazon yes i am
23:26 Vazon how would you tell if its corrupt?
23:27 VanessaE you'd just have to look it over
23:27 VanessaE it's plain text (more or less)
23:27 VanessaE if it's badly corrupted, you'll be able to tell
23:27 Vazon ....it has like 5k names in it
23:27 VanessaE but if it's reverting to an old file, you're not replacing the right one
23:27 VanessaE or you're not truly letting the server die fully before replacing it
23:28 Vazon im closing hte terminal and everything
23:28 VanessaE that's not good enough
23:28 Vazon should i restart my comp>
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23:30 VanessaE that shouldn't be necessary
23:31 VanessaE you need to make sure the minetest server process is actually dead before you go replacing its files
23:31 Vazon kk
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