IRC log for #minetest, 2014-03-22

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00:06	PilzAdam	Inocudom, thanks for the bug report
00:06	paramat	WIP rainforest mod for mapgen v6 https://github.com/paramat/rainforest with climbable trunks
00:11	LazyJ	paramat, a quick thanks for your 'watershed' mod. I've been waiting for mapgen like that for a long time. :D
00:18	Inocudom	You are welcome, PilzAdam.
00:18	Inocudom	Bye.
00:22	VanessaE	oh dear G*d the irony
00:23	VanessaE	this week's torah portion deals with the kashrut, specifically about prohibitions on consumption of certain animals...
00:23	VanessaE	and what am I eating while I listen to services? PORK RINDS!!!!!!
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00:25	LazyJ	God will forgive you, VanessaE. Your doctor probably won't. :0)
00:26	VanessaE	LazyJ: actually my doctor supports my low-carb/moderate-fat diet :)
00:26	VanessaE	and i'm losing weight :)
00:26	VanessaE	he just doesn't like my sodium intake
00:26	VanessaE	(but I gotta have SOME kind of snack, and I'm too lazy to make more chicken salad)
00:26	LazyJ	I have read that fats are essential to burning fats. Something about the body's mechanics.
00:26	VanessaE	abso-fucking-lutely they are necessary!
00:27	VanessaE	and your brain needs fat too
00:27	VanessaE	it's like 60% fat or something, and it runs on the stuff
00:28	paramat	hey cool LazyJ !
00:28	LazyJ	When the no-fat craze hit, the lack of certain fats didn't allow the absorption of fat-soluble nutrients and the body needs fats to trigger satiation.
00:28	VanessaE	yup
00:28	LazyJ	No fats = always hungry.
00:28	VanessaE	exactly
00:29	VanessaE	two 12oz cans of chicken + cheese + mayo lasts me about 1.5 days - and it's the ONLY thing I eat during that time usually
00:29	VanessaE	(sometimes I will add pork rinds, or exactly and precisely ONE ~8oz portion of greek yogurt)
00:29	LazyJ	paramat, I like the way you allow parts of your mods to be changed with setting options or even disabled without having to uninstall.
00:30	VanessaE	well 1-1.5 days, depends on my overall level of hunger
00:30	paramat	:)
00:30	LazyJ	If you ever decide to include generated villages in your 'watershed' mod, may I request that the villages also be a enable/disable option?
00:31	VanessaE	paramat: get said villages from nore's/sfan5's mapgen mod if you need inspiration. they're very good
00:31	VanessaE	(I forget if you already have such a thing)
00:32	LazyJ	I like to create my own villages.
00:32	paramat	yeah i visited the mg server and i love those villages
00:36	LazyJ	paramat, any plans to continue developing 'watershed' or is it an experiment leading to something more grand?
00:36	paramat	but since im into modern architecture and scifi my villages would probably be weird
00:36	paramat	id also rather do ancient ruins, pyramids etc
00:37	paramat	its an evolving 'flagship' mapgen
00:37	paramat	all my best ideas crammed in
00:37	LazyJ	Excellent!
00:38	LazyJ	I have a few long-term, singleplayer worlds that are mapgen v6.
00:38	LazyJ	I really want to confidently base my long-term worlds in 'watershed' generated worlds.
00:40	paramat	ah i see
00:40	LazyJ	(paramat now runs for the door)
00:42	paramat	well its up to you to keep records of all the parameters you use, including the perlin noise params ;)
00:44	paramat	if i change mapgen you'll just get an interesting discontinuity between chunks, they make nice cross sections to look at
00:46	LazyJ	I work in build in clusters and have yet to even come close to using a fraction of the full size potential of a world.
00:47	LazyJ	So updates to 'watershed' aren't as much of a concern as having to switch to a different mapgen again.
00:48	LazyJ	Minor concerns in the overall progress of Minetest.
00:49	LazyJ	I'd much rather have progress than stagnation.
00:50	LazyJ	Ok, enough out of me.
00:53	paramat	o/
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06:43	hmmmm	http://s22.postimg.org/6rme1sg8x/map_seed_531643182666794829.png
06:43	hmmmm	modern art
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10:12	Jordach	just cracked a dogecoin block :D
10:20	Jordach	https://mediacru.sh/XK9wi1nM1pBH.png :p
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11:58	sfan5	!tell nore 1600x96x1600 mg map: https://mediacru.sh/4_t7ZtByoW_S.png
11:58	MinetestBot	sfan5: yeah, sure, whatever
11:59	sfan5	<3 MinetestBot
11:59	MinetestBot	<3 sfan5
12:02	sfan5	!tell nore 1600x96x1600 mg map: https://mediacru.sh/4_t7ZtByoW_S.png
12:02	MinetestBot	sfan5: I'll pass that on when nore is around
12:02	sfan5	shit finally works!
12:05	sfan5	mg even does art: http://i.imgur.com/adr3L6k.png
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12:30	sfan5	john_minetest: did you mean /usr/bin/cat?
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12:31	reactor	~ $ which cat
12:31	reactor	/bin/cat
12:33	sfan5	~ $ where cat
12:33	sfan5	/bin
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12:56	MinetestBot	nore: 03-22 12:02 UTC <sfan5> 1600x96x1600 mg map: https://mediacru.sh/4_t7ZtByoW_S.png
13:04	* EvergreenTree	flips Jordach
13:05	PenguinDad	Â¡flip john_minetest
13:05	EvergreenTree	MinetestBot needs a !flip and !slap command
13:06	sfan5	as if MinetestBot would slap ppl
13:07	sfan5	she is a kitten
13:07	sfan5	a nice kitten
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13:08	PenguinDad	kittens only slap each other :p
13:09	EvergreenTree	lol
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13:42	PilzAdam	Hello everyone!
13:45	EvergreenTree	Hello PilzAdam!
13:46	PilzAdam	how do I crash 0.4.6 servers=
13:46	PilzAdam	*?
13:54	reactor	!up mike402.no-ip.biz 50000
13:54	MinetestBot	mike402.no-ip.biz:50000 is up (241ms)
13:58	sfan5	PilzAdam: why would you want to know that
13:58	PilzAdam	http://www.globeminner.com/index.php/servers
13:58	PilzAdam	0.4.6 servers
13:59	reactor	"minner"
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14:02	proller	20 servers on one host? lol
14:02	reactor	Maybe it's a NAT?
14:02	proller	no
14:02	reactor	How do we know?
14:03	proller	they goal - collect money, not keeping servers
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14:06	reactor	oh
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14:09	Jordach	VanessaE, fix yer IRC server
14:10	Jordach	!up isis.inchra.net
14:10	MinetestBot	isis.inchra.net:30000 is up (415ms)
14:11	Jordach	so minetest appears to be working
14:11	Jordach	!up isis.inchra.net 30005
14:11	MinetestBot	isis.inchra.net:30005 is up (105ms)
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14:11	Jordach	08,01EVERYONE RUN
14:12	Jordach	:P
14:12	* GhostDoge	hides
14:12	reactor
14:12	reactor	Eh?
14:12	reactor	askj
14:13	reactor	Whoops.
14:14	markveidemanis	Hi
14:15	arsdragonfly1	It seems that a sed statement is all we need to make one's "own" voxel game
14:15	arsdragonfly1	Inb4 global"minner"
14:16	GhostDoge	my pipe broke :(
14:16	* sfan5	throws a \| at GhostDoge
14:20	markveidemanis	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134111#p134111
14:20	reactor	arsdragonfly1: ?
14:20	reactor	They do need to read about English spelling, yeah.
14:23	arsdragonfly1	They make money out of it after they change the name of it, since you won't pay for a stuff you can legally download from the internet
14:24	reactor	So they sell old builds of MT?
14:24	reactor	That reminds me of BolgenOS.
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14:27	arsdragonfly1	They do. Click "get it" and you'll find that the only way of getting a copy is buying their disc
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14:31	* Jordach	thinks the change to LGPL was a bad idea
14:31	arsdragonfly1	,
14:31	arsdragonfly1	Indeed. Freeminer changed it back
14:32	markveidemanis	Can it do that?
14:32	markveidemanis	Its a fork though
14:39	hmmmm	http://s2.postimg.org/byzzfwxmx/map_seed_741727892587839253.png
14:39	hmmmm	more abstract art^
14:40	hmmmm	i title this piece, "Evil swallows all"
14:41	EvergreenTree	My position on contemporary art is that I only like it if it serves some purpose or is functional
14:41	EvergreenTree	I suppose that would be called contemporary design
14:41	hmmmm	the functional purpose is entertainment
14:42	EvergreenTree	That is pretty cool though
14:42	arsdragonfly1	It is. It's a map.
14:42	reactor	hmmmm: what is that? An ink blotch?
14:42	EvergreenTree	hmmmm: That's just the way I look at things
14:42	reactor	That's not even an effing picture!
14:42	hmmmm	it's abstract artwork
14:42	EvergreenTree	I like things that are practical
14:42	EvergreenTree	hmmmm, I know
14:43	EvergreenTree	I'm not saying I don't like it, that's generally the way I look at things
14:43	reactor	EvergreenTree++;
14:44	VanessaE	isis.inchra.net:30000 ? um... well if you wanna use that address I guess it'll work but the official domain for my minetest servers is digitalaudioconcepts.com.
14:44	Jordach	VanessaE, your IRC server ain't workin
14:46	PenguinDad	isis.inchra.net works perfectly for me
14:46	VanessaE	works for me, too
14:46	Jordach	http://pastebin.com/FWrgSLa6
14:47	VanessaE	well I'm on via ssl, so port 6697 for me
14:48	* VanessaE	pokes ShadowNinja
14:56	Jordach	VanessaE, 0.7k/hash within firefox, 0.02k/hash with CPU miner on all four cores
14:57	VanessaE	cool
14:57	sfan5	hmmmm: 1) paint on oil thingy 2) sell 3) ??? 4) Profit
14:58	sfan5	s/thingy/canvas/
14:58	Exio4	kh/s?
14:58	Exio4	what
14:59	VanessaE	I put abe's machine to work on it last night too, between 8 cores and two GPUs (leaving 4 unused cores so we can get some normal desktop activities done) we're getting >120 kH/s
15:00	Exio4	about what kh/s are you talking
15:00	VanessaE	exio: thousands of hashes per second in coin mining
15:00	Jordach	https://mediacru.sh/ToA3loTnPfO2.png :P
15:00	Exio4	scrypt i guess
15:00	Exio4	:D
15:00	VanessaE	Jordach mines Dogecoins, I'm working on Litecoins and NXT
15:00	Exio4	go to DOGE nd then sell it for LTC?
15:01	* Jordach	just wants to tip people
15:01	VanessaE	one can be traded for the other on some exchanges yeah
15:01	Exio4	also, 50kh/s with my cpu @ 4.2ghz
15:01	Exio4	the 6100 you know
15:02	Jordach	i'm doing doge as it rewards me with bonus coins for cracking a big block
15:02	Exio4	because amazing integer performance w/ FXs
15:02	Jordach	(and there is infinite ore)
15:02	Jordach	s/ore/coins
15:02	* sfan5	high fives Jordach for using mediacru.sh
15:02	Exio4	also
15:02	VanessaE	so far as of thursday evening I've made 0.05 ltc :)
15:03	VanessaE	just have to wait for it the pool site I use to push it to my wallet
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15:03	Jordach	VanessaE, already made 0.016 Doge :O
15:03	Exio4	i've 16k~ DOGE
15:03	Exio4	Jordach: how the fuck are you mining
15:03	Exio4	unlss you're minig with a paper you should get more DOGE
15:03	Jordach	Exio4, javascript because i'm the most lazy fuck you'll ever meet
15:03	Exio4	dumbass
15:04	Exio4	get cpuminer and leave it in background
15:04	Exio4	and gpu-mine w/ your APU
15:04	Jordach	Exio4, i can run it on other machines
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15:04	PenguinDad	I have 1k~ DOGE
15:04	Exio4	:D
15:05	VanessaE	if I had any trust at all in that old spare computer in my closet, I'd put it to work too (low-end GPU, single-core 3 GHz sempron, or some such thing)
15:05	Exio4	low-end gpu = no gpu mining? :P
15:05	VanessaE	heh
15:06	Exio4	also, my low-end nvidia (gt610) gives out something like 10kh/s
15:06	reactor	You spend more money on electricity than you earn.
15:06	Exio4	where are you mining Jordach
15:07	Exio4	reactor: "earn"?
15:07	Jordach	Exio4, http://idigdoge.com
15:07	Exio4	wtf
15:08	reactor	Exio4: eh?
15:08	VanessaE	heh, that page automatically mines coins. interesting.
15:09	Exio4	0.033kh/s
15:09	VanessaE	0.217 kH/s
15:09	Jordach	0.8xx :D
15:09	Exio4	looks like shit
15:09	VanessaE	and I've already got my CPU maxed out mining ltc
15:09	Exio4	did you OC it a bit?
15:09	VanessaE	nope. no overclocking here, I'm flat OEM speeds.
15:09	VanessaE	(I'm too chickenshit to overclock)
15:10	Exio4	:(
15:10	Exio4	what did i miss here?
15:11	Exio4	well, trying to clean windows is a PITA
15:11	reactor	Exio4: what would you expect from a toy OS?
15:11	PenguinDad	1.5 kH/s on that site :P
15:12	VanessaE	so don't use pita, use a cloth and ammonia. works better that way
15:12	reactor	Ammonia enema to alleviate PITA.
15:14	arsdragonfly1	Mining with my phone...
15:15	Exio4	use a cpuminer comiled in your own
15:15	Exio4	works far better
15:15	arsdragonfly1	Wish it could be winter, so that I won't waste the heat
15:15	Exio4	poor you
15:16	Exio4	we're in oton~o :D
15:16	Exio4	south (and best) part of the world
15:18	reactor	What does 'cornholio' mean?
15:18	Exio4	didn't remember how to spell it
15:19	VanessaE	reactor: look up Beavis and Butthead.
15:19	Exio4	we're at 20C anyway
15:19	Exio4	19C outside
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15:29	harrison	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAl5Azlzj1M
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15:36	sfan5	!title
15:36	MinetestBot	sfan5: The Everlove "Cities in Dust" - YouTube
15:36	sfan5	no
15:37	sfan5	I just want to know what it may be about w/o watching it
15:37	* sfan5	hugs MinetestBot
15:37	VanessaE	there, I just put the dac server to work on it too (don't worry, I nice -n -20 the process) so now 12 cores + 2 GPUs. :)
15:43	VanessaE	(I figure I'm already paying for the server and it's 80% idle, so why not put it to work, eh?)
15:43	sfan5	Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/R1QBgSz.jpg
15:46	harrison	i loved that song -- the original version of it -- when it came out almost 30 years ago. but i only found out last month that it was about pompeii
15:47	reactor	john_minetest: yeah, totally.
15:47	sfan5	john_minetest: http://i.imgur.com/xBBToEr.gif
15:47	Exio4	VanessaE: VPS?
15:47	Exio4	or dedi?
15:47	reactor	Why does it so instantly remind of a space station when it's just a hair pin?!
15:47	Exio4	-20 is high priority isn't it?
15:48	VanessaE	deidi
15:48	VanessaE	dedi*
15:48	VanessaE	-20 is low prio with the 'nice' command
15:48	VanessaE	(it's opposite of usual, which always confused me :P )
15:48	VanessaE	at least I think it is
15:48	harrison	prio as in priority or prio as in prion?
15:48	VanessaE	no matter, I can change it
15:49	harrison	the process so nice
15:49	harrison	they had to nice it twice
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15:49	VanessaE	oh wait
15:50	VanessaE	needs to be +19, not -20
15:50	VanessaE	dammit
15:50	* VanessaE	switches it
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15:55	Exio4	VanessaE: told you
15:55	VanessaE	yeah, that damn thing always confused me
15:56	VanessaE	thanks for the sanity-check :)
15:59	Exio4	lol
16:01	harrison	john_minetest you gave me a great idea: how about a film with music AND strange cubes?
16:04	harrison	o i think i know which one you mean. a minute please
16:05	harrison	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu3swsAqQdw
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16:13	sydney	How do I get a pasword to conect to one of your servers?
16:15	PilzAdam	sydney, there is no centralized password system
16:15	PilzAdam	passwords are per-server, and you can usually set one the first time you connect
16:16	sydney	PilzAdam: Well I have not had any luck connecting to a server. Can you help conect to one?
16:17	PilzAdam	do you get any error messages?
16:17	sydney	PilzAdam: Connection timed out.
16:18	PilzAdam	what server have you tried?
16:18	Sokomine	sydney: start with vanessaes mostly vanilla server. that ought to get you connected pretty reliably
16:18	Sokomine	sydney: most other servers have more media data (textures etc.) and thus the first attempt at connection may fail
16:18	PilzAdam	also what Minetest version do you use?
16:19	sydney	PilzAdam: I don't know. the one I just downloaded.
16:20	PilzAdam	its displayed in the top-left corner
16:20	sydney	.3.1
16:21	PilzAdam	that version is very outdated
16:21	sydney	whats the newest?
16:21	PilzAdam	http://minetest.net/download
16:21	PilzAdam	0.4.9 is the latest version
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16:29	sydney	How do I install version 4.9?
16:29	PilzAdam	what OS do you have?
16:29	sydney	PilzAdam: ubuntu 12.04
16:30	PilzAdam	have you installed you current version with the package manager?
16:30	sydney	Yes,I installed 3.5 with ubuntu software center.
16:31	Mark__	Hi
16:31	Mark__	oops
16:31	PilzAdam	then first remove that version, add this ppa: ppa:minetestdevs/stable and install the package minetestc55
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16:32	sydney	PilzAdam: how do i install that ppa?
16:32	markveidemanis	Anyone have Fedora/CentOS?
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16:33	PilzAdam	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding_PPAs
16:33	PenguinDad	I'm on Fedora right now but why do you ask?
16:33	arsdragonfly1	!up arsenalmp.no-ip.org 16000
16:33	MinetestBot	arsenalmp.no-ip.org:16000 is up (597ms)
16:34	arsdragonfly1	server featuring my AdvancedMarket and RandomMessages mod is up... going to sleep
16:34	arsdragonfly1	see you guys tomorrow
16:35	markveidemanis	I need a server build from Fedora
16:35	markveidemanis	I tried with a VM, but nothing
16:36	harrison	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91jOniRKorE
16:36	markveidemanis	PenguinDad, Would you be able to very kindly make me a build with -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DENABLE_CURL=0 -DBUILD_CLIENT=0 ?
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16:44	sydney	Thanks,everyone
16:45	VanessaE	annnnnnnd..... abe's power supply just took a shit... and it was only drawing a little over half its rated load. good thing I had a spare.
16:57	markveidemanis	VanessaE, What are the specs of your server?
17:01	VanessaE	dual core i3, 3.4 GHz, 4 threads, 8GB ram, 2TB storage
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17:01	markveidemanis	Nice :)
17:01	VanessaE	pulling 21 kH/s on litecoins right now with 4 threads. [obama-not-bad.jpg]
17:01	markveidemanis	litecoins?
17:01	VanessaE	forget it.
17:02	VanessaE	bbl
17:02	Calinou	VanessaE turned into a coin miner? I thought she was against it
17:02	VanessaE	nope, I was just too lazy to bother
17:03	* markveidemanis	's server has 24 Cores 2Ghz each
17:03	Calinou	but you don't get access to all of them
17:03	markveidemanis	but cough 10GB cough
17:04	Calinou	RAM doesn't mean performance
17:04	Calinou	in fact, having lots of RAM is a tiny bit slower than a bit of RAM. ;)
17:04	Calinou	but the difference is not visible
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17:04	markveidemanis	I mean 10GB disk space :P
17:04	markveidemanis	haha
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17:07	hoodedice	Jordach!
17:08	PilzAdam	hoodedice!
17:08	PilzAdam	I have a question for you
17:09	hoodedice	yw?
17:09	PilzAdam	can you read? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8768
17:09	hoodedice	!tell Jordach: Looks like someone bested you in making a minetest short lolol https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=133832#p133832
17:09	MinetestBot	hoodedice: Do not put an : at the end of nickname
17:10	hoodedice	Whoops. Sorry MinetestBot
17:10	hoodedice	!tell Jordach Looks like someone bested you in making a minetest short lolol https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=133832#p133832
17:10	MinetestBot	hoodedice: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around
17:10	hoodedice	PilzAdam: Yes, very much so - Now where exactly did I commit an error?
17:11	PilzAdam	"Everybody can use only one word for one day."
17:11	hoodedice	"Everybody can use only one word for one day." - Therefore, as long as I use different words, I can post
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17:12	PilzAdam	its not "Everybody can use a lot of words for one day"
17:13	hoodedice	Yes, but it does not include "Everybody should use one word for one day"
17:13	hoodedice	It is a can.
17:13	hoodedice	can
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17:14	hoodedice	So, again, "do it if you want to" is implied here
17:14	PilzAdam	it doesnt make any sense if everbody could just keep posting
17:14	hoodedice	But then,
17:14	hoodedice	punctuation marks are not word
17:14	harrison	why should a husk have flashing lights?
17:14	PilzAdam	he isnt a native english speaker, you cant take everything he says literally
17:15	hoodedice	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134221#p134221
17:15	harrison	because it is an emergent seed vehicle
17:15	hoodedice	harrison
17:15	PilzAdam	how about you just think what makes sense in a game like this?
17:15	hoodedice	That was so funny, I jumped off a building twice
17:15	harrison	i write most of my own material
17:16	harrison	it is a gift
17:16	harrison	one of many
17:16	hoodedice	PilzAdam: The way I see it, I am allowed to post a unique word in my post everyday
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17:16	MinetestBot	GIT: Novatux commited to minetest/minetest: Fix "ghost stacks" created when a player clicks an item on the ground: 936c6f577a 2014-03-22T18:15:33+01:00 http://git.io/WUvugg
17:16	harrison	how do you catch a unique rabbit?
17:16	harrison	unique up on it
17:16	hoodedice	Edit the OP if you want, but if I find a loophole, I won't be hesitating to abuse it =P
17:17	markveidemanis	is minetest LGPL?
17:17	hoodedice	LGPL 2.0
17:18	hoodedice	Anyway, PilzAdam, have you seen this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8856
17:19	PilzAdam	my Google Ultron cant display it
17:20	hoodedice	Ultron is hacked, Use Internet Explorer
17:20	specing	lolololoo
17:20	Calinou	2.1, hoodedice
17:20	Calinou	(3 was available...)
17:21	hoodedice	2.1?
17:21	hoodedice	oh. okay
17:22	markveidemanis	http://pastie.org/8959384
17:22	hoodedice	2.1, markveidemanis, LGPL 2.1
17:22	hoodedice	Sorry about that
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17:22	PilzAdam	markveidemanis, good joke
17:22	markveidemanis	well same thing
17:23	hoodedice	Also, markveidemanis, I am planning on massively greifing their servers
17:23	markveidemanis	Not like they will notice
17:23	markveidemanis	Im in!
17:23	hoodedice	okay, anyone else with me?
17:23	markveidemanis	gotta admit its a good website
17:23	hoodedice	Nah, who you kidding, lol?
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17:24	hoodedice	We knew about it like, a month before the thread was created on the forums
17:25	hoodedice	Let's start with port 30000
17:25	markveidemanis	lets ... you got it
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17:26	hoodedice	Looks like the servers are offline
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17:27	PilzAdam	I think I crashed 30000 some hours ago
17:27	markveidemanis	30001 isnt
17:27	markveidemanis	how?
17:27	PilzAdam	throwing a lot of objects arround and setting a large forest on fire
17:27	markveidemanis	ah, classic
17:28	markveidemanis	what a shitty server then
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17:29	markveidemanis	You still loading?
17:29	hoodedice	PilzAdam. Always a step ahead.
17:29	hoodedice	Got into 30014
17:30	hoodedice	Come on, let's party!
17:30	markveidemanis	loading...
17:30	markveidemanis	anyone else there?
17:31	hoodedice	...stuck on media.
17:31	hoodedice	No wait
17:31	hoodedice	30013
17:31	hoodedice	Sorry
17:32	markveidemanis	Same, but the slider is moving
17:32	markveidemanis	grrr
17:32	hoodedice	Switch off preload
17:32	markveidemanis	My cache is surprisingly small
17:33	hoodedice	They don't even hve proper servers lol
17:36	markveidemanis	LOADING...
17:36	* markveidemanis	accisentally pressed Esc
17:36	hoodedice	Okay, I'm gonna go in and tell everyone online about minetest first, then start griefing
17:37	hoodedice	If I get banned, I'm gonna try reconnecting via proxy or something
17:37	* PilzAdam	got 2 lava buckets on 30014
17:37	hoodedice	PilzAdam: I'm on 30013
17:37	hoodedice	Sorry about the typo
17:38	hoodedice	PilzAdam: How? You hacked, or actually mined?
17:38	PilzAdam	\o/ "Server shutting down"
17:38	hoodedice	Wow
17:39	PilzAdam	its actually faster to legit mine than to code a hacked client
17:39	markveidemanis	We need a chart
17:39	hoodedice	woah
17:39	markveidemanis	Which servers are up
17:39	hoodedice	mark, I'm in on 13
17:39	markveidemanis	Could someone use minetestbot to map the ports?
17:39	markveidemanis	I'm stuck on media
17:40	markveidemanis	30000-30019
17:40	sfan5	markveidemanis: which server?
17:41	PilzAdam	0 3 and 14 are down
17:41	markveidemanis	all of them
17:41	markveidemanis	Just once
17:41	sfan5	markveidemanis: which IP/domain?
17:41	markveidemanis	well, they failed with the server numbering
17:41	markveidemanis	globeminner.com
17:41	markveidemanis	server1: 30000 server19: 30019
17:42	sfan5	!up globeminner.com 30000-30019
17:42	hoodedice	30013 is up
17:42	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30000 seems to be down
17:42	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30001 is up (242ms)
17:42	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30002 is up (253ms)
17:42	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30003 seems to be down
17:42	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30004 is up (252ms)
17:42	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30005 is up (233ms)
17:42	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30006 is up (231ms)
17:42	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30007 is up (226ms)
17:42	PilzAdam	sfan5, .... <PilzAdam> 0 3 and 14 are down
17:42	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30008 is up (238ms)
17:42	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30009 is up (228ms)
17:42	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30010 is up (239ms)
17:42	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30011 is up (248ms)
17:42	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30012 is up (243ms)
17:42	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30013 is up (227ms)
17:42	PilzAdam	sfan5, I already did that in PM
17:42	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30014 seems to be down
17:42	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30015 is up (227ms)
17:42	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30016 is up (220ms)
17:42	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30017 is up (232ms)
17:42	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30018 is up (227ms)
17:42	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30019 is up (234ms)
17:42	hoodedice	PilzAdam: I need you on 13
17:42	sfan5	PilzAdam: well then
17:42	markveidemanis	ok
17:43	specing	lol globeminner
17:43	hoodedice	Who is Corn?
17:43	PenguinDad	hoodedice: i'm coming
17:43	PilzAdam	Im "FuckYou"
17:44	PenguinDad	or at least trying
17:44	hoodedice	k, coolio
17:44	EvergreenTree	trolling the minetest clone I see?
17:44	EvergreenTree	I'm joining
17:46	markveidemanis	http://pastie.org/8959429
17:48	hoodedice	Daheck you make a steel bucket?
17:48	markveidemanis	3 steel
17:48	EvergreenTree	Which server are all of you guys on?
17:48	markveidemanis	3,1 2,2 3,3
17:49	* markveidemanis	updates
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17:49	nore	1. they violate the license 2. it is impossible to join the servers because it is too long...
17:49	hoodedice	got it
17:49	hoodedice	EvergreenTree: 30013
17:49	nore	(media...)
17:49	hoodedice	nore, turn off preload
17:49	nore	already turned off IIRC
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17:50	PenguinDad	hoodedice: media has nothing to do with preload
17:50	nore	yep, just checked, it is
17:50	PilzAdam	I have a cooler client now
17:50	nore	no, media is meshes, etc
17:50	nore	PilzAdam, what does that mean?
17:50	hoodedice	PilzAdam: Got some steel ready, gotta dig for lava now
17:50	Calinou	please, don't do childish stuff against them; it's a waste of time and makes us look bad
17:50	Calinou	and don't even think about attacking/griefing/DDoSing them.
17:51	PilzAdam	yay, its down
17:51	nore	^ I agree... only tell them that minetest exists and that this game violates its license
17:51	hoodedice	Yaay
17:51	hoodedice	nore, I'm putting up signs on it's servers
17:51	PilzAdam	... but.... but its so fun
17:51	hoodedice	*its
17:52	markveidemanis	It is
17:52	hoodedice	PA: hacked client?
17:52	markveidemanis	BUT I CANT JOIN!
17:52	hoodedice	You so evil
17:52	nore	maybe code some sort of bot that is connected to the server and says a message each time someone connects
17:53	hoodedice	Boom, they'll ban the bot
17:53	specing	maybe code a bot so nobody can connect? :D
17:53	hoodedice	^^
17:53	markveidemanis	http://pastie.org/8959445
17:53	specing	I recommend the minetest devs include a backdoor into the codebase
17:53	hoodedice	But, with the crappy transfer rates, no one can connect anyway =P
17:53	specing	it'll be the easiest solution to this and all future such problems
17:54	hoodedice	!g backdoor source code
17:54	MinetestBot	hoodedice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backdoor_(computing)
17:54	PilzAdam	1 is down
17:54	EvergreenTree	What server is next?
17:54	EvergreenTree	*port
17:54	nore	PilzAdam, what does your client do?
17:55	hoodedice	specing I think backdoors will only increase griefs on our own servers
17:55	hoodedice	I say, 12
17:55	specing	hoodedice: not if only one dev knows about it
17:55	nore	specing, that's not possible with FOSS
17:55	specing	why not?
17:55	hoodedice	#OurCodeIsOpenSource
17:55	specing	ofcourse it is
17:55	hoodedice	#ninja'd
17:56	PenguinDad	everybody with enough knowledge could find it
17:57	specing	by that logic Linux should be exploit-free
17:57	specing	but it isn't
17:57	markveidemanis	How about one hash that you need to connect
17:57	specing	and Linux has much, much more oversight than minetest
17:57	markveidemanis	That san be disabled in the conf
17:57	markveidemanis	But is not documented
17:58	PilzAdam	2 is down
17:59	specing	john_minetest: yes it does
17:59	PilzAdam	nore, evil stuff
17:59	nore	that is?
18:00	specing	john_minetest: there are many
18:00	PenguinDad	Pure Evilnessâ„¢ by PilzAdam
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18:03	specing	Linux has (had) a lot of priviledge escalation holes, no java needed
18:03	specing	http://blog.includesecurity.com/2014/03/exploit-CVE-2014-0038-x32-recvmmsg-kernel-vulnerablity.html
18:03	PilzAdam	specing, a blogpost is not a reliable source </wikipedia>
18:04	specing	That was given as an example
18:04	specing	the x32 bug is quite severe
18:04	crazyR	does anyone know how to make obsidian glass and clear glass seamless, ive seen it on the landrush server but cnt figure out how its done.
18:04	nore	obsidian glass: cook an obsidian shard
18:05	hoodedice	Who is corn??
18:05	crazyR	i know how to make it, what i mean is how do i make it look seamless, im guesing its some sort of rendering setting on my server
18:05	nore	lol, even their dirt_with_snow texture is wrong
18:06	PenguinDad	hoodedice: connected to 30012
18:06	PenguinDad	I'm WhySoSerious
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18:07	specing	lol since when is windows relewant?
18:08	specing	lolno
18:08	specing	windows is a commercial program where time is of the essence
18:10	Calinou	time is diesel
18:10	* Calinou	gallops away
18:10	* john_minetest	ignites the diesel. Btw, Diesel was a german guy.
18:11	markveidemanis	got google plus? https://plus.google.com/105061542687357253886/posts
18:11	* Jordach	dives for cover
18:11	MinetestBot	Jordach: 03-22 17:10 UTC <hoodedice> Looks like someone bested you in making a minetest short lolol https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=133832#p133832
18:11	* Jordach	goes back to playing South Park: Stick of Truth
18:12	hoodedice	EvergreenTree: Too fast
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18:12	EvergreenTree	The server shut down
18:12	hoodedice	tI didn't get to do my job lol
18:12	hoodedice	12 is Down
18:12	hoodedice	Yaay
18:12	EvergreenTree	which one next?
18:12	lordawe	hello there! :)
18:13	hoodedice	11
18:13	hoodedice	Hello lordawe
18:14	markveidemanis	Can someone update the paste?
18:15	sfan5	EvergreenTree: 30004-30011 & 30015-30019 are up
18:15	EvergreenTree	we are working on 11
18:17	Calinou	<specing> I recommend the minetest devs include a backdoor into the codebase
18:17	Calinou	backdoor as in global moderator system?
18:18	Calinou	it could be disabled by server admin, always, but in this case you could add a way to ban the server from the server list.
18:18	Calinou	that's what Sauerbraten and Red Eclipse do, but the backdoor is almost never abused
18:18	sfan5	>ban the server from the server list
18:18	sfan5	we can do that
18:22	lordawe	Can anybody help me with running server 0.4.9 ?
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18:22	lordawe	when i start ir regulary (on win7) it works perfectly
18:23	lordawe	but when i run it from commandline it gives me error?
18:23	lordawe	07:34:55: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Failed to bind so
18:23	lordawe	cket (port already in use?)
18:25	markveidemanis	hahaha
18:25	EvergreenTree	yay!
18:25	hoodedice	11 is DOWN!!
18:25	hoodedice	Yay
18:25	EvergreenTree	another one bites the dust
18:26	markveidemanis	Which is next?
18:26	hoodedice	10!
18:26	EvergreenTree	10 is down
18:26	EvergreenTree	I think
18:26	EvergreenTree	is it?
18:26	markveidemanis	nope
18:26	markveidemanis	it up
18:26	hoodedice	Wait
18:27	PenguinDad	"cat /dev/urandom \| ncat --udp globeminner.com port" this is evil
18:27	sfan5	PenguinDad: I have something even more evil
18:27	hoodedice	sfan5: can you !up globeminner.com 30000-30019 ?
18:28	sfan5	hoodedice: doing right now
18:28	PenguinDad	sfan5: what? :>
18:28	hoodedice	Grief team: ON 10!
18:29	sfan5	PenguinDad: something that triggers an assert(false)
18:29	sfan5	it was fixed
18:29	sfan5	but I forgot when exactly
18:29	sfan5	so it may be vulnerable
18:29	sfan5	hoodedice: 04-15 & 15-19 up
18:29	hoodedice	what?!
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18:31	markveidemanis	Im on 9
18:31	hoodedice	Wow, looked like the sign bug worked lol
18:32	PilzAdam	sfan5, was it something in 6d facedir?
18:32	PilzAdam	oh wait, that was client side
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18:32	sfan5	PilzAdam: no, in the minetest protocol itself
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18:34	hoodedice	Already crashed 9?
18:34	markveidemanis	How do you do the bug?
18:34	sfan5	hoodedice: <MinetestBot> globeminner.com:30009 is up (905ms)
18:36	markveidemanis	${text} ?
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18:36	hoodedice	!up globeminner.com 30009
18:36	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30009 seems to be down
18:37	hoodedice	!up globeminner.com 30008
18:37	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30008 is up (312ms)
18:37	hoodedice	Dude, I need to place some signs before you can down the server, so WAIT
18:38	markveidemanis	30008 is down
18:38	hoodedice	lol
18:38	hoodedice	Someone is crashing all of them alone with the sign bug
18:38	markveidemanis	On 30007
18:38	EvergreenTree	30007
18:38	hoodedice	!sign bug minetest
18:38	markveidemanis	!g sign bug minetest
18:38	MinetestBot	markveidemanis: http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog
18:38	EvergreenTree	that bug really must be fixed
18:39	markveidemanis	30007 armed
18:40	PilzAdam	what sign bug?
18:40	hoodedice	7 is prolly down now
18:40	EvergreenTree	7 is down
18:40	hoodedice	Dunno - whoever does it doesn't want to tell us
18:41	hoodedice	0.4.6 bg it seems
18:41	hoodedice	Finishes the server in one minute
18:41	sfan5	04-06 & 15-19 up
18:44	PenguinDad	I might have killed 05
18:44	EvergreenTree	someone is crashing the servers
18:44	EvergreenTree	it isn't us
18:44	hoodedice	I think someone is DDOSing
18:44	hoodedice	siriusly
18:44	sfan5	maybe it's PilzAdam with the evil script I have him?
18:44	hoodedice	aha
18:44	PilzAdam	nope
18:44	hoodedice	nope to that nope
18:45	hoodedice	Could be celeron55 for all we know
18:45	sfan5	lolno
18:46	hoodedice	I'm leaving - gonna do something more useful =/
18:46	hoodedice	onpon4?
18:46	EvergreenTree	5 is down
18:47	* markveidemanis	wonders if this happens with all servers
18:47	sfan5	EvergreenTree, hoodedice: 04,05 & 15-19 are left
18:47	EvergreenTree	I can finish them off
18:47	EvergreenTree	with the sign bug
18:47	sfan5	the web interface of my router just crashed
18:47	sfan5	well fuck
18:47	crazyR	without sounding like im mithering, does anyone know the way to make clear glass look seamless by that i mean so there are no lines between nodes
18:48	hoodedice	Standby on server 4 - heavily populated
18:48	PilzAdam	crazyR, there is a node-drawtype for that
18:48	hoodedice	We're placing signs to tell people about MT - Please don't crash it prematurely
18:50	* markveidemanis	YellScrew
18:50	markveidemanis	How populated?
18:50	lordawe	well, goodbye
18:51	sfan5	!!!! 04 and 15-19 are left
18:51	crazyR	PilzAdam Thanks. didi#nt even think of researching that
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18:55	hoodedice	down. Yaay
18:55	EvergreenTree	4 more to go
18:55	hoodedice	on 3
18:55	hoodedice	wait...
18:56	EvergreenTree	3 is down
18:56	EvergreenTree	!up globeminner.com:30003
18:56	MinetestBot	EvergreenTree: Syntax changed, please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
18:56	EvergreenTree	!up globeminner.com 30003
18:56	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30003 seems to be down
18:56	sfan5	!! 15-19 left
18:56	EvergreenTree	see
18:56	EvergreenTree	yellscrew crashed 15 already
18:57	hoodedice	lol
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18:57	hoodedice	Sad thing is - I'm not able to put up signs on all servers
18:58	CWz	go 2 prots ahead then
18:58	CWz	*ports
18:58	markveidemanis	they changed their site!
18:58	EvergreenTree	crashing 17
18:58	EvergreenTree	17 crashed
18:59	EvergreenTree	18 crashed
18:59	hoodedice	lol
18:59	hoodedice	What is it now mark?
18:59	markveidemanis	Hmm?
18:59	hoodedice	BTW, I got the bug
18:59	markveidemanis	I'm YS
19:00	hoodedice	=D
19:00	hoodedice	But please wait for my signs first
19:00	hoodedice	^This is IMPORTANT
19:00	CWz	Yes wait
19:00	rubenwardy	Hi all
19:00	EvergreenTree	alright, fine
19:00	EvergreenTree	only 19 is left
19:00	hoodedice	Hi rubenwardy
19:00	sfan5	EvergreenTree: 18 and 19 are left
19:00	markveidemanis	How do you do the minetestbot port range again?
19:01	EvergreenTree	I though I crashed 18
19:01	EvergreenTree	*thought
19:01	sfan5	!up globeminner.com 30018
19:01	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30018 is up (1782ms)
19:01	markveidemanis	!up globeminner.com 30017
19:01	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30017 seems to be down
19:01	markveidemanis	!up globeminner.com 30019
19:01	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30019 is up (244ms)
19:02	rubenwardy	What are you guys doing?
19:02	markveidemanis	erm...nothing
19:02	markveidemanis	!up globeminner.com 30018
19:02	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30018 seems to be down
19:02	markveidemanis	heh
19:02	PilzAdam	rubenwardy, nothing to see here, move along
19:03	sfan5	rubenwardy: they are crashing all globeminner servers
19:03	rubenwardy	Is it based on Minetest? Or are you getting jealous of other clones?
19:03	rubenwardy	ha
19:03	EvergreenTree	no, it is illegal
19:03	EvergreenTree	it violates lgpl
19:03	rubenwardy	30 km. I guess it is based on Minetest.
19:04	PenguinDad	it is based on minetest
19:04	EvergreenTree	!up globeminner.com 30019
19:04	hoodedice	Down
19:04	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30019 seems to be down
19:04	rubenwardy	Why does this happen?
19:04	hoodedice	Yaay
19:04	EvergreenTree	all servers are down
19:04	hoodedice	Woot!
19:04	rubenwardy	Are you DDoS-ing them?
19:04	hoodedice	Party!
19:05	hoodedice	Nope, ${text} ing them
19:05	EvergreenTree	Yep
19:05	hoodedice	=P
19:05	EvergreenTree	Exploiting a bug more like
19:05	EvergreenTree	It segfaults the server
19:05	rubenwardy	That website is rubbish
19:05	EvergreenTree	but it was fixed in minetest
19:05	rubenwardy	lol
19:05	markveidemanis	!up globeminner.com 30000 - 30019
19:05	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30000 seems to be down
19:05	PilzAdam	rubenwardy, I crashed some by setting forests on fire
19:05	sfan5	MinetestBot: reports none up
19:05	sfan5	Congrats, I guess
19:05	hoodedice	Yaay
19:06	EvergreenTree	ip of website?
19:06	PilzAdam	now how do we crash the website?
19:06	hoodedice	"I guess"
19:06	rubenwardy	Just all refresh constantly
19:06	hoodedice	We are Anonymous.
19:06	hoodedice	We are Legion.
19:06	EvergreenTree	what is the ip of the website?
19:06	PilzAdam	50.198.2.134
19:06	hoodedice	We are Invincible. Not really. But Still
19:06	hoodedice	Everyone "ping 50.198.2.134"
19:06	hoodedice	trololol
19:07	sfan5	!py __import__('os').popen("dig globeminner.com \| grep A").read()
19:07	MinetestBot	';; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 50461\n;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0\n;globeminner.com.\t\tIN\tA\n;; ANSWER SECTION:\nglobeminner.com.\t167\tIN\tCNAME\tsurftodonate.com.\nsurftodonate.com.\t47\tIN\tA\t50.198.2.134\n'
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19:07	sfan5	>surftodonate.com
19:07	sfan5	wut
19:07	EvergreenTree	their website is rubbish
19:07	PilzAdam	lol, they have globeminner.com and www.globeminner.com
19:07	EvergreenTree	it is designed poorly
19:07	EvergreenTree	it must die
19:07	rubenwardy	50.198.2.133
19:08	rubenwardy	^ their ip
19:08	hoodedice	Gonna DDOS?
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19:08	rubenwardy	lol
19:08	EvergreenTree	How do you ping the server?
19:08	sfan5	!py __import__('os').popen("whois 50.198.2.133").read()
19:08	MinetestBot	'\n#\n# ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use\n# available at: https://www.arin.net/whois_tou.html\n#\n\n\n#\n# The following results may also be obtained via:\n# http://whois.arin.net/rest/nets;q=50.198.2.133?showDetails=true&showARIN=false&ext=netref2\n#\n\n\n# start\n\nNetRange: 50.198.2.128 - 50.198.2.135\nCIDR: 50.198.2.128/29\nOriginAS: \nNetName: ITCTECHNOLOGIES\nNetHandle: NET-50-198-2
19:08	rubenwardy	http://50.198.2.133/phpMy/
19:09	rubenwardy	^ their PHPmyAdmin
19:09	PilzAdam	#ddosglobeminner <- all join!
19:09	sfan5	oh what the fuck
19:09	sfan5	lol
19:09	sfan5	!py __import__('os').popen("whois 50.198.2.133 \| grep address").read()
19:09	MinetestBot	''
19:09	markveidemanis	Im pinging with 65500 bytes
19:09	sfan5	really?
19:10	sfan5	pinging with 65500 bytes won't get you anywhere
19:10	markveidemanis	why?
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19:10	PenguinDad	they don't seem to respond for
19:10	sfan5	if you want serious stuff do an tcp syn flood
19:10	PenguinDad	+me
19:10	PilzAdam	IIRC you can crash some old windows version by pinging it
19:10	sfan5	PilzAdam: old = Win 2000 in this case
19:10	rubenwardy	ha!
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19:11	rubenwardy	http://globeminner.com/ and http://www.globeminner.com/ go to different websites!
19:11	sfan5	they have Apache/2.2.25 (Win32) PHP/5.3.27
19:11	sfan5	who the fuck hosts server on windows?
19:11	PenguinDad	windows O_O
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19:11	w_laenger	hi
19:12	PilzAdam	"Globeminner is like MineCraft with key differences such as there are no limitations on the number of blocks you can build in any direction"
19:12	PilzAdam	lol
19:12	PilzAdam	http://images.ilovepetras.com/gm/globeminner_r19_c17.png
19:12	hoodedice	lol
19:13	PilzAdam	thats totally how their interface looks
19:13	EvergreenTree	I think ddosing is illegal
19:13	sfan5	EvergreenTree: we are not ddosing
19:13	hoodedice	It is, if it cause more than $5000 in loss
19:13	hoodedice	=P
19:14	EvergreenTree	ah
19:14	PenguinDad	violating the LGPL is illegal too
19:14	sfan5	ahahahahahha
19:14	hoodedice	Since they are stealing from us, so yeah
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19:15	PilzAdam	vigilantism is illegal too
19:15	sfan5	hoodedice: https://mediacru.sh/JdLDfK6Z0EnJ.png
19:15	Calinou	<sfan5> who the fuck hosts server on windows?
19:15	Calinou	about 35% of servers
19:15	Calinou	9% of supercomputers
19:15	hoodedice	sfan5: well?
19:15	hoodedice	Seen that already
19:15	sfan5	hoodedice: I was asking where you get your blenders
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19:16	hoodedice	-.-
19:16	hoodedice	From microcenter
19:16	hoodedice	(lol)
19:16	hoodedice	Do we send a mail to globem guys?
19:16	w_laenger	http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3149355/what-happens-to-those-who-break-open-source-license
19:17	hoodedice	Maybe just sue them lol
19:17	hoodedice	Split the money among everyone on Minetest
19:17	hoodedice	Forums.
19:17	rubenwardy	https://www.flickr.com/photos/rubenwardy/13334618514/in/photostream/
19:18	hoodedice	flickr? n00b
19:18	rubenwardy	Would you rather I linked to google plus?
19:18	hoodedice	Real imaging guys use imgur
19:18	w_laenger	!up minetest.org 30015
19:18	MinetestBot	minetest.org:30015 is up (951ms)
19:18	markveidemanis	Let's buy bitcoins!
19:18	hoodedice	plus.google.com is better =)
19:19	hoodedice	Anyway
19:19	markveidemanis	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8836
19:19	hoodedice	"Real imaging guys use imgur". Like this Real IT techie Real imaging guys use imgur
19:19	sfan5	!title
19:19	MinetestBot	sfan5: Wanted - Fedora CentOS Build (Page 1) â€” Bugs and Problems â€” Minetest Forums
19:19	hoodedice	*oops: http://imgur.com/gallery/iJD8f
19:19	hoodedice	cough https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134243#p134243
19:20	sfan5	!title
19:20	MinetestBot	sfan5: MINETEST SURVIVAL MODE SERIES ON UTUBE (Page 1) â€” General Discussion â€” Minetest Forums
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19:20	Calinou	"utube" http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2n7hoaRdd1r3k1m8o1_500.png
19:20	Calinou	<hoodedice> Real imaging guys use imgur
19:20	Calinou	mediacru.sh ;)
19:21	Calinou	<hoodedice> plus.google.com is better =)
19:21	w_laenger	http://paste.ubuntu.com/7137386/
19:21	Calinou	certainly not privacy-wise
19:21	sfan5	utube(.de) was/is actually a site to download YT videos
19:21	hoodedice	Calinou, it was #PIlzAdamstyleSarcasm
19:22	sfan5	w_laenger: you moved /usr/lib/libIrrlicht.a or something else happend to it; run CMake again
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19:22	w_laenger	doing cmake again doesn't help
19:22	w_laenger	I also did make clean
19:22	* hoodedice	goes back to important things
19:22	sfan5	w_laenger: try deleting CMakeCache.txt
19:23	w_laenger	thanks
19:24	w_laenger	maybe it's because I use a .sh script that I don't have to mention the settings(like DENABLE_...) every time
19:25	hoodedice	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134247#p134247
19:25	sfan5	!title
19:25	MinetestBot	sfan5: GlobeMinner: another minetest ripoff (Page 1) â€” Minetest-related projects â€” Minetest Forums
19:29	Calinou	"ripoff" is rarely a good term.
19:29	hoodedice	Indeed.
19:30	w_laenger	http://ubuntuone.com/0dXRrB0BRbUG1uNXXjNX6w Gronkh lives in germany, doesn't he?
19:30	Calinou	I think he does
19:31	w_laenger	and GEMA mentioned "country"
19:31	w_laenger	so did he get problems with nonfree music?
19:33	w_laenger	ok
19:36	hoodedice	w/e. Just listen to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxroiTRg7Tg
19:36	sfan5	!title
19:36	MinetestBot	sfan5: Amerika - Rammstein (English Subtitles) - YouTube
19:37	w_laenger	and he can't watch every of his videos where he put the music
19:37	hoodedice	john_minetest: Rammstein CD?
19:38	w_laenger	something less offtopic: http://ubuntuone.com/1ct3f95oVSADZKLTWsfR3i â† is there a maximum length of characters a name can have?
19:38	hoodedice	wow.
19:39	w_laenger	you could try to repair it
19:40	w_laenger	you only would need very fine glue
19:41	w_laenger	why not?
19:41	hoodedice	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS0paP2ekfg
19:41	w_laenger	â†‘ is not broken into 2 halves
19:42	hoodedice	Use glue... owait...
19:43	w_laenger	glue: http://is.gd/kdmblY
19:43	w_laenger	sounds a bit like the music of sauerbraten
19:44	Calinou	marc a pullen :D
19:44	Calinou	I have all of his albums
19:45	w_laenger	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmEbNt_G6Ac
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19:51	w_laenger	please add psm (perspective shadow mapping) to minetest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4roGXu4gOM
19:52	hoodedice	!tell RealBadAngel: Can you consider perspective shadow mapping for Minetest? Or do we already have it?
19:52	MinetestBot	hoodedice: Do not put an : at the end of nickname
19:52	hoodedice	!tell RealBadAngel Can you consider perspective shadow mapping for Minetest? Or do we already have it?
19:52	MinetestBot	hoodedice: I'll pass that on when RealBadAngel is around
19:52	hoodedice	w_laenger: Done.
19:52	w_laenger	thanks
19:52	Enke	Looks pretty. :-)
19:53	MinetestBot	john_minetest: yeah, sure, whatever
19:54	w_laenger	let me try
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19:54	w_laenger	!tell wilhelm Lol, I guess you got a lot of messages when you join.
19:54	MinetestBot	w_laenger: I'll pass that on when wilhelm is around
19:54	w_laenger	~help
19:54	ShadowBot	w_laenger: help [<plugin>] [<command>]
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19:54	w_laenger	~tell wilhelm Lol, I guess you got a lot of messages when you join.
19:54	ShadowBot	w_laenger: O.K.
19:55	ShadowBot	john_minetest: O.K.
19:55	wilhelm	lol
19:55	MinetestBot	wilhelm: 03-22 19:53 UTC <john_minetest> Lol, I guess you got a lot of messages when you join.
19:55	wilhelm	nice
19:55	MinetestBot	wilhelm: 03-22 19:54 UTC <w_laenger> Lol, I guess you got a lot of messages when you join.
19:55	wilhelm	:D
19:56	w_laenger	/nick RealBadAngel
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19:57	w_laenger	you could try out hot glue and much precision to repair the CD and you may fetch some data from it
19:57	MinetestBot	w_laenger: 03-22 19:57 UTC <john_minetest> Lol!
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19:57	sfan5	!g perspective shadow mapping
19:57	MinetestBot	sfan5: http://http.developer.nvidia.com/GPUGems/gpugems_ch14.html
19:57	nate_	There we go
19:57	nate_	~hi
19:57	ShadowBot	Hello nate_!
19:58	w_laenger	!g irrlicht psm
19:58	MinetestBot	w_laenger: http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=263036
19:58	PenguinDad	hi ShadowBot
19:58	ShadowBot	Hello PenguinDad!
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20:00	w_laenger	you could add an embedded irc to minetest.net http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/chat/
20:01	nate_	Micro u here
20:01	sfan5	!seen Microchip
20:01	MinetestBot	sfan5: microchip was last seen at 2014-02-19 03:49:40 UTC on #minetest
20:01	w_laenger	!seen PilzAdam
20:01	MinetestBot	w_laenger: pilzadam was last seen at 2014-03-21 11:08:57 UTC on #minetest
20:01	nate_	~seen microchip
20:01	ShadowBot	nate_: I saw microchip in #minetest 7 weeks, 1 day, 22 hours, 45 minutes, and 13 seconds ago saying "Does anybody know how to change the distance that player names are visible at on a server?".
20:02	w_laenger	~seen w_laenger
20:02	ShadowBot	w_laenger: I saw w_laenger in #minetest 29 seconds ago saying "!seen PilzAdam".
20:02	Eater4	U stole isis.inchra.net Bot XD net split
20:03	Eater4	~seen Microchip
20:04	ShadowBot	Eater4: I saw Microchip in #minetest 7 weeks, 1 day, 22 hours, 47 minutes, and 21 seconds ago saying "Does anybody know how to change the distance that player names are visible at on a server?".
20:04	w_laenger	you need to press + or -
20:04	PenguinDad	~logger seenany knifethrower93
20:04	ShadowBot	PenguinDad: I saw knifethrower93 in #minetest 1 day, 6 hours, 28 minutes, and 25 seconds ago quiting (Client Quit)
20:06	w_laenger	Do you think using this causes much lag? https://github.com/HybridDog/miscellaneous/blob/master/txt/on_enter_chunk.lua
20:09	w_laenger	~up digitalaudioconcepts.com 30000-30015
20:09	ShadowBot	w_laenger: Error: Too many Ports specified
20:09	w_laenger	~up digitalaudioconcepts.com 30000-30010
20:09	ShadowBot	w_laenger: digitalaudioconcepts.com port 30000 is up (945ms) \| port 30001 is up (945ms) \| port 30002 is up (944ms) \| port 30004 is up (943ms) \| port 30005 is up (942ms) \| port 30003 is up (944ms) \| port 30006 is down \| port 30007 is down \| port 30008 is down \| port 30010 is down \| port 30009 is down
20:09	w_laenger	~up digitalaudioconcepts.com 30000-3000
20:09	ShadowBot	w_laenger: digitalaudioconcepts.com
20:10	w_laenger	~up digitalaudioconcepts.com -1
20:10	ShadowBot	w_laenger: Error: Invalid Port:
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20:10	w_laenger	!calc 1+1
20:10	w_laenger	!c 1+1
20:10	MinetestBot	2
20:10	w_laenger	!c 90!
20:10	MinetestBot	SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
20:11	rubenwardy	w_laenger: minetest.register_globalstep(function(delta)
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20:11	w_laenger	oops
20:12	rubenwardy	and then do t_old += delta
20:12	rubenwardy	and t_old > 1000 (1 sec)
20:12	PilzAdam	w_laenger, could you stop abusing the bots?
20:12	rubenwardy	and tn = 0
20:12	* w_laenger	will try it
20:12	w_laenger	the thing of pilzadam
20:13	w_laenger	+= works with lua?
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20:15	rubenwardy	I think so
20:15	w_laenger	stdin:1: syntax error near '+'
20:15	* w_laenger	doesn't
20:16	w_laenger	dtime could work faster than os.clock()
20:18	w_laenger	(or delta)
20:22	w_laenger	and now it's quiet
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20:29	hoodedice	Who is PandaFu?
20:29		CWz joined #minetest
20:30	hoodedice	Cwz: Are you PandaFu?
20:30	CWz	nope
20:30	hoodedice	Someone just griefed globemminer server 0 with that nick
20:34	PilzAdam	all the servers are up again
20:34	hoodedice	We
20:34	hoodedice	We're going to just place signs all over the place
20:34	hoodedice	But I don't think it will help - Getting the site and games down should be our main priority
20:35	hoodedice	SignBug, did you grief??
20:35	CWz	No
20:36	hoodedice	How did it shut down?
20:36	hoodedice	I think they are monitoring us
20:37	hoodedice	PilzAdam: dafuq?
20:40	hoodedice	I think all servers are shutting down?
20:40	hoodedice	!up globeminner.com 30000-30019
20:40	MinetestBot	hoodedice: To check multiple Ports please use Query
20:40	hoodedice	!help
20:40	MinetestBot	https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
20:40	CWz	i think it's best to just leave there servers alone. it won't accomplish much.
20:41	hoodedice	!up globeminner.com 30000
20:41	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30000 is up (585ms)
20:41	hoodedice	weird
20:42	hoodedice	They're shutting it down when I connect lol
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20:42	PilzAdam	hoodedice, maybe its the mapblock loading that contains the sign
20:43	EvergreenTree	I just noticed this post on the forums:
20:43	CWz	also: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134259#p134259
20:43	hoodedice	Dude, check this out lol https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134259#p134259
20:43	EvergreenTree	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134259#p134259
20:43	hoodedice	Wow, triple ninjas
20:43	EvergreenTree	lol
20:43	EvergreenTree	legit or not?
20:43	hoodedice	not legit
20:44	PilzAdam	Jordach, check the IP
20:44	CWz	is there a need to be worried
20:44	hoodedice	A. We griefed, not hacked - therefore we are safe
20:44	hoodedice	Griefing is not defined.
20:44	hoodedice	B. They Violated the LGPL, causing US losses in customers
20:44	hoodedice	With a complete copy of our game
20:44	PilzAdam	he still has to provide the sourcecode
20:45	hoodedice	Indeed. ^
20:45	PilzAdam	has someone bought it to check if you get the code then?
20:45	EvergreenTree	it would be a waste of money
20:45	hoodedice	Indeed.
20:46	EvergreenTree	"Hacking"
20:46	EvergreenTree	That was not hacking
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20:46	EvergreenTree	it effected nothing except minetestserver
20:46	rubenwardy	lol
20:46	MinetestBot	rubenwardy: 03-22 20:25 UTC <w_laenger> I think += works with c++
20:47	EvergreenTree	It's also their fault for using a version of minetest which has that bug
20:47	EvergreenTree	:P
20:49	hoodedice	Guys: http://pastebin.com/ZaLAgvFu
20:49	hoodedice	Need to add more to that
20:49	rubenwardy	How sure are we that they modified the Minetest source code?
20:50	EvergreenTree	they probably violated the licenses of the mods they used as well
20:50	EvergreenTree	*some of
20:50	EvergreenTree	If we can join with a minetest client, it is minetest
20:50	* EvergreenTree	checks the licenses of the mods he saw used
20:50	rubenwardy	I will be super pissed if they ripped off one of my mods.
20:51	PenguinDad	or of the texture packs they used
20:51	EvergreenTree	Yep, they violated the lgpl license of mesecons
20:51	EvergreenTree	and I believe that is the dokucraft pack
20:51	hoodedice	It IS Minetest
20:51	hoodedice	lol guys
20:52	hoodedice	Is this ok: http://pastebin.com/bD2XqTaD
20:52	rubenwardy	awesome https://www.youtube.com/user/Vihart
20:53	rubenwardy	+1
20:53	EvergreenTree	lol, "slander of the globeminner name needs to stop as well."
20:53	rubenwardy	not sure about the last comment
20:53	EvergreenTree	You have to be kidding me
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20:54	EvergreenTree	look at what globeminner posted
20:55	hoodedice	I'm on it
20:56	EvergreenTree	Where on earth did they get "globemiNNer" from?
20:56	EvergreenTree	At first, i tried to spell the IP globeminer
20:56	EvergreenTree	:P
20:56	hoodedice	Meh, I'm actually scared bout them pulling a lawsuit
20:57	EvergreenTree	I am too
20:57	rubenwardy	no
20:57	hoodedice	Just because it would give celeron some additional headaches
20:57	hoodedice	It is easily winnable, but teh headaches
20:57	EvergreenTree	yeah
20:57	rubenwardy	I would contribute to law expenses
20:57	EvergreenTree	it's just a pain
20:57	hoodedice	We could get the GPL in on this too
20:58	rubenwardy	fuck sake
20:58	EvergreenTree	What I would say to whoever create globeminner: "Does it really matter?"
20:58	rubenwardy	they use my capture the flag game
20:58	EvergreenTree	this is just going too far
20:58	PilzAdam	hoodedice, the copyright notice on the website only applies to the website
20:59	hoodedice	But the implication?
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21:00	EvergreenTree	Nowhere on their website has anything to do with minetest
21:00	hoodedice	What is the minetest icon licensed under?
21:01	EvergreenTree	not so much as a link
21:01	hoodedice	The game uses the MT icon
21:01	sfan5	hoodedice: CC-BY-SA IIRC
21:01	EvergreenTree	and 14$ for that?
21:01	EvergreenTree	never
21:01	hoodedice	Cool. They also violated CC-By-SA
21:01	rubenwardy	Has anyone got a zip of the game?>
21:01	rubenwardy	I want to check that my capture the flag game has not been violated
21:01	EvergreenTree	Also, the skin on their home page is someone else's IIRC
21:02	sfan5	rubenwardy: they also violated NekoGloop's copyright
21:02	rubenwardy	which one?
21:02	sfan5	the used his(/her) avatar in some picture on their site
21:02	EvergreenTree	They violated Mesecon's license too
21:02	rubenwardy	Build a list of the violations
21:02	EvergreenTree	They also used some textures from VE's HD pack
21:02	hoodedice	I have a picture of the folder structure
21:03	EvergreenTree	and dokucraft
21:03	hoodedice	Go to the buy link, click on documentation
21:03	hoodedice	See the Troubleshooting pdf
21:03	sfan5	rubenwardy: http://www.globeminner.com/images/globeminnerppl2.jpg vs. https://forum.minetest.net/img/avatars/2600.png
21:03	rubenwardy	I see
21:05	rubenwardy	lol
21:05	EvergreenTree	It's just a conglomeration of textures from everywhere
21:05	rubenwardy	they can't even rip it off correctly
21:05	rubenwardy	"minetest.exe"
21:05	EvergreenTree	^
21:05	PenguinDad	sfan5: john_minetest's copyright got violated too https://forum.minetest.net/img/avatars/3464.png
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21:05	EvergreenTree	Let's make a list of violations somewhere
21:06	EvergreenTree	john_minetest: on globeminner.com
21:06	* CheapSeth	did'nt know they were griefers on minetest
21:06	sfan5	PenguinDad: and the various tools they have there, violated minetest_game license (CC-BY-SA)
21:08	EvergreenTree	hm, they took textures from minetest_game for the banner
21:08	EvergreenTree	those IIRC are cc-by-sa
21:08	hoodedice	CheapSeth: Everyone became a griever
21:08	hoodedice	=P
21:09	EvergreenTree	I'll join one of their servers again with a different more normal alias and see what stuff they have installed
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21:10	hoodedice	EvergreenTree: I'm already doing it, lol
21:12	sfan5	PenguinDad: the first player at the bottom (from the left) is from this texture pack's 0.3.1 version: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=402p2
21:13	CheapSeth	Is there any way to enable per player creative mode?
21:13	sfan5	PenguinDad: well not really.. but google finds it, Gambit removed it IIRC
21:13	sfan5	Gambit: not you :)
21:14	PenguinDad	CheapSeth: you can do that with unified inventory's creative priv
21:14	CheapSeth	hoodedice: Yes, i was too innocent for this cruel worl of lava and flames D:
21:15	CheapSeth	PenguinDad: Thank you! I'm going to look at it
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21:15	hoodedice	CheapSeth: What?
21:16	hoodedice	oh okay
21:16	hoodedice	lol
21:25	Eater4	Hi
21:26	* rubenwardy	feels stupid after he accidentally plugged a microphone into a headset jack...
21:26	rubenwardy	(and then wondered why it wouldn't work)
21:26	sfan5	>We prefer you do not post our server list, no permission has been give for this.
21:26	sfan5	guys guys
21:26	sfan5	I have a good idea
21:27	sfan5	they don't want us to post the globeminner.com servers on the server list, how about we do that to annoy them :>
21:27	hoodedice	rofllmao
21:30	PenguinDad	firefox just crashed when refreshing that page
21:31	sfan5	:) :) :)
21:32	sfan5	the assert(false) bug is present in 0.4.6 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/0.4.6/src/connection.cpp#L1436
21:33	hoodedice	so?
21:33	sfan5	hoodedice: send \x4F\x45\x74\x03\x00\x00\x00\x03\xFF\xDC\x03 , server crashes
21:35	PenguinDad	!up globeminner.com
21:35	MinetestBot	globeminner.com:30000 is up (565ms)
21:36	hoodedice	To?
21:36	hoodedice	Via text?
21:36	EvergreenTree	send to what?
21:37	hoodedice	in chat?
21:37	sfan5	hoodedice: via raw socket
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21:38	hoodedice	cough Simple English please
21:38	hoodedice	Hi Amaz
21:38	hoodedice	What were you doing on the Globeminner servers?
21:38	sfan5	hoodedice: open an udp socket to globeminner.com 30000 and send that
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21:39	hoodedice	sfan5: That looks serious shit - not doing that, sorry
21:39	hoodedice	greifing was bad enough
21:39	EvergreenTree	We don't want to do anything that is actuallly hacking
21:39	EvergreenTree	*ll
21:39	EvergreenTree	Whoever created globeminner has no idea what they are doing
21:40	EvergreenTree	I'd be interested to see who it is
21:40	sfan5	I don't think that is considered hacking
21:40	CheapSeth	Sorry, what is globeminner? It looks like a bad, proprietary fork?
21:40	CheapSeth	-?
21:40	sfan5	CheapSeth: http://globeminner.com
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21:40	rubenwardy	or www.globeminner.com
21:41	EvergreenTree	sfan5: we just don't want to push it
21:41	EvergreenTree	maybe we can have that guy come on irc
21:41	domtron	I don't know hacking is basically exploiting bugs to do serious harm to a digital infrastructure.
21:41	hoodedice	Nah, not on IRC
21:41	hoodedice	Indeed domtron
21:42	EvergreenTree	domtron: yep
21:42	sfan5	EvergreenTree: exploiting the sign bug is exactly the same as what I said
21:42	rubenwardy	Remember that anything you say here, he can read.
21:42	hoodedice	AFAIK there needs to be some losses in excess of $5000 to be considered a hack
21:42	EvergreenTree	we did not do serious harm to a digital infrastructure
21:42	sfan5	it exploits a bug in the software to dos a service
21:42	rubenwardy	WOT is awesome
21:42	hoodedice	sfan5: We did it once, enough
21:43	EvergreenTree	what we did only affected minetestserver
21:43	EvergreenTree	we don't want to do it again
21:43	hoodedice	Do we want a crappy lawsuit?
21:43	EvergreenTree	I kind of regret doing it in the first place
21:43	hoodedice	Sent the message across
21:43	hoodedice	Made him come over and talk
21:43	rubenwardy	I don't think he will lawsuit
21:43	CheapSeth	How surprising! A bad, proprietary fork (with an ugly website that could seem legit for my grandmother).
21:44	EvergreenTree	CheapSeth: ikr?
21:44	EvergreenTree	terrible design
21:44	domtron	I belive there is some open source organization that helps FOSS projects with OS copyright infringement.
21:44	EvergreenTree	we had this problem with an illegal port for android
21:45	CheapSeth	EvergreenTree: indeed. He must be a designer from Apple or something.
21:45	hoodedice	"an illegal port"?
21:45	EvergreenTree	wrong terminology
21:45	hoodedice	Buddy, there are TONS of illegal ports of MT (read: 5 or so)
21:45	EvergreenTree	I know
21:45	CheapSeth	Minetest should be GPLv3
21:45	EvergreenTree	*illegal ports
21:45	EvergreenTree	CheapSeth: It should
21:45	EvergreenTree	GPLv3 is better for protection against this kind of thing
21:46	EvergreenTree	all my mods will switch to it
21:46	rubenwardy	https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/globeminner.com?utm_source=addon&utm_content=rw-viewsc#view
21:46	domtron	Does the minetest engine license allow for commercial usage?
21:46	rubenwardy	http://www.globeminner.com/ is a much better time
21:47	rubenwardy	domtron: yes, but not w/o releasing modified code
21:47	EvergreenTree	what should I rate it on WOT?
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21:47	domtron	ya just saw your post.
21:47	rubenwardy	Scam, illegal
21:48	CheapSeth	Why can't we send an email to the free software foundation?
21:48	domtron	how do I agree with a post? Does it require a login?
21:49	rubenwardy	probably
21:49	rubenwardy	also, subscribe to my youtube! https://www.youtube.com/user/AjayWard
21:49	rubenwardy	XD
21:50	hoodedice	Switch to GPLv3 I agree
21:50	hoodedice	Let's bug Celeron about it
21:50	domtron	CheapSeth: we can but we should at least contact him first. He may take it down with just the threat of legal action.
21:51	rubenwardy	He may genuinely believe he is not doing anything wrong
21:51	CheapSeth	Indeed
21:52	EvergreenTree	rubenwardy: that is possible
21:52	EvergreenTree	rubenwardy: do you use linux?
21:52	EvergreenTree	or windows?
21:52	sfan5	wait.. wut
21:52	sfan5	ilovepetras.com, globeminner.com are both hosted from a comcast IP
21:52	sfan5	that comcast IP was also used to register the globeminner forum account
21:52	rubenwardy	I am on Windows now, as I am doing college coursework
21:52	EvergreenTree	ah
21:53	rubenwardy	I use ubuntu for c++ development, and other things. Windows for games and college stuff.
21:53	EvergreenTree	I was going to suggest you use simplescreenrecorder instead of bandicam, but it only works on linux
21:53	rubenwardy	I don't use bandicam on linux. I can't remember what I use :P
21:53	rubenwardy	Thank you though, I will check it out
21:54	sfan5	lololol
21:54	EvergreenTree	My videos on youtube use it
21:54	EvergreenTree	(sameless self advertisement)
21:54	EvergreenTree	back on topic
21:54	EvergreenTree	:P
21:54	sfan5	comcast internet aup says you may not offer commercial services over their connection
21:55	sfan5	and this is exactly what they do by hosting ilovepetras.com on their comcast connection
21:55	sfan5	good night now
21:55	EvergreenTree	good night
21:55	domtron	I agreed with rubenwardy post but I can't seem to rate it or post a message myself.
21:56	domtron	rubenwardy's post *
21:56	domtron	good night
21:56	domtron	ah the rate button worked that time.
21:56	CheapSeth	good night
21:57	hoodedice	cough https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/globeminner.com?utm_source=addon&utm_content=rw-viewsc#view
21:57	domtron	should we rate trustworthiness down and child safety neutral?
21:57	hoodedice	sfan5: I'm not even surprised
21:58	hoodedice	Well, it IS child safe lol
21:58	rubenwardy	"Minetest is free, and always will be."
21:58	rubenwardy	^ facebook
21:58	hoodedice	Oh lol
21:58	hoodedice	Didn't see that
21:58	hoodedice	That actually came from FlightGear I think
22:00	hoodedice	I wanted the ste devs to put up a similar statement LOOOONG back
22:00	EvergreenTree	It's hard to believe that a father would actually buy that game for his kid
22:01	hoodedice	My heart literally broke when I read the comments on Amazon
22:01	CheapSeth	Wait, did people actually buy globeminner?
22:01	hoodedice	Yes
22:01	EvergreenTree	Yes
22:01	hoodedice	They thought it was MC
22:01	EvergreenTree	+10 people
22:01	hoodedice	Fuck: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134301#p134301
22:01	hoodedice	FUCK
22:01	hoodedice	Andthen again, F***
22:02	EvergreenTree	the people who rate this 5 stars are idiots
22:02	arsdragonfly1	18:03:13: ERROR[ServerThread]: Got packet command: 50 for peer id 74 but client isn't active yet. Dropping packet
22:02	rubenwardy	I commented on that amazon review
22:02	hoodedice	Did anyone read what I posted?
22:02	hoodedice	This is it - we need a LICENSE CHANGE!
22:03	arsdragonfly1	^ keep getting this on my server .any clues ?
22:03	EvergreenTree	good reply rubenwardy
22:04	EvergreenTree	I can't believe that people are getting scammed from our work
22:04	EvergreenTree	:(
22:06	EvergreenTree	sigh
22:06	specing	or send DMCAs!
22:06	specing	*to comcast
22:06	EvergreenTree	lol
22:06	hoodedice	Hello, What about onpon4's message?
22:06	specing	I heard the US is really bitchy about copyright being infringed
22:06	specing	three strikes, remember?
22:08	Jordach	well that was fucking enjoyable as all shit
22:08	EvergreenTree	Jordach: look at the logs for while you were gone
22:08	Jordach	5* for South Park: Stick of Truth
22:08	hoodedice	Jordach YOU MISSED A LOT
22:08	Jordach	hoodedice, tl;dr not giving a fuck
22:08	EvergreenTree	Read the chat logs for today Jordach
22:08	Jordach	bedtimes
22:09	hoodedice	JORDACH!
22:09	hoodedice	dammit
22:09	hoodedice	lol
22:09	EvergreenTree	NOOOO
22:09	hoodedice	We'll send a DMCAs to Amazon and Ebay
22:09	hoodedice	And a notice to comcast
22:09	hoodedice	=D
22:09	hoodedice	rubenwardy:
22:09	hoodedice	You're good at throwing together a letter
22:09	rubenwardy	Yay!
22:10	hoodedice	Put it on Google Docs - First the comcast letter
22:10	hoodedice	Let's do it people
22:10	EvergreenTree	gogogo
22:10	EvergreenTree	also, this gives me an idea
22:10	EvergreenTree	it would be interesting to actually make a subgame for minetest which turns it into an actual game
22:10	EvergreenTree	not an engine
22:11	rubenwardy	https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mEPPTy7xro28VzQQx3rz9N-UajgnU6yruPxbScAMR7k/edit?usp=sharing
22:11	PenguinDad	how would you do that?
22:11	CheapSeth	The main probles is that it's difficult to make complete games out of a minecnaft-friendly voxel engine
22:11	CheapSeth	*problem
22:13	EvergreenTree	it being popular could be a problem though
22:14	CheapSeth	Not so easy. We need friends from Youtube, an active community everywhere in the world (for example in France there is no serious community website)
22:14	CheapSeth	â€¦
22:14	domtron	of course most people will probably look at us and say... are't they infringing on minecraft. And walk away with general disgust :(
22:16	CheapSeth	(If minetest is infringing on minecraft, minecraft is infringing on Infiniminer and Dwarf Fortressâ€¦
22:16	CheapSeth	)
22:18	arsdragonfly1	Imho onpon4 may be right. Back to the old days when RMS sold tape copies of Emacs to make a living
22:18	arsdragonfly1	Btw why does my server keep dropping packets?
22:19	EvergreenTree	yes, onpon4 is right about that
22:21	EvergreenTree	john_minetest: of course
22:22	EvergreenTree	I know that
22:22	rubenwardy	Just wondering, what is the point of the letter?
22:22	EvergreenTree	oh
22:23	rubenwardy	I thought that too. It seems they are writing about ecommerce on a hosting service that does not like ecommerce
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22:25	rubenwardy	https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mEPPTy7xro28VzQQx3rz9N-UajgnU6yruPxbScAMR7k/edit?usp=sharing
22:25	rubenwardy	oh
22:25	rubenwardy	https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wSp6Mfk0b3Rbyn7fMTsdBV_Qjh_CPQ1rm2eGB94CFAk/edit?usp=sharing
22:26	domtron	bye, all hope you get something sorted out.
22:27	CheapSeth	Are the lua files of mods downloaded by the client?
22:27	CheapSeth	(I''m trying to connect to globeminner with the minetest client)
22:28	rubenwardy	no
22:28	PenguinDad	The client does not download any Lua files
22:28	CheapSeth	\o/
22:29	CheapSeth	(I know it's a stupid question, but in doubtâ€¦ ^^)
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22:31	arsdragonfly1	http://paste.ubuntu.com/7138208/
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22:31	arsdragonfly1	^need help
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22:32	CheapSeth	Ok, the server's spawn is full of "Be awesome, use minetest" signs :D
22:32	PenguinDad	which port?
22:33	hoodedice	30004, I guess
22:33	CheapSeth	30000
22:33	arsdragonfly1	Port is 16000
22:34	arsdragonfly1	I mean ,mine
22:35	NakedFury	griefers usually are players without creative ability
22:35	CheapSeth	Someone didn't understood it
22:35	NakedFury	when they see a creative player they have strong compulsion to destroy and damage what they do
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22:40	CheapSeth	john_minetest: Likely not, but keep in mind that they make money with FOSS
22:41	CheapSeth	Yes
22:41	CheapSeth	But it's not ethical to sell the other's work
22:41	CheapSeth	Even if he is allowed
22:42	CheapSeth	It's unethical
22:42	hoodedice	LGPL 2.1
22:42	hoodedice	You have to release source code. Period
22:42	hoodedice	Yes
22:42	EvergreenTree	yes
22:42	hoodedice	Good Morning
22:42	* hoodedice	gives coffee to john_minetest
22:43	PenguinDad	Freeminer is GPL
22:43	EvergreenTree	be back sometime later
22:43	hoodedice	cya
22:44	rubenwardy	bye
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22:46	hoodedice	bah
22:46	hoodedice	Bookmarking for work later
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22:47	hoodedice	!tell sfan5 Can you read throught this jargon and tell mewhere does comcast explicitly state that ecommerce is not allowed on a home network? http://www.comcast.com/policies
22:47	MinetestBot	hoodedice: I'll pass that on when sfan5 is around
22:47	hoodedice	<3 MinetestBot
22:47	MinetestBot	<3 hoodedice
22:49	hoodedice	!tell sfan5 Nevermind, I found it
22:49	MinetestBot	hoodedice: I'll pass that on when sfan5 is around
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22:59	rubenwardy	ViHart is awesome
22:59	rubenwardy	anywars, I gtg
22:59	rubenwardy	*ways
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23:08	EvergreenTree	back
23:09	EvergreenTree	did I miss anything
23:10	PenguinDad	You didn't miss much
23:10	EvergreenTree	mkay
23:11	EvergreenTree	hm, interesing
23:11	EvergreenTree	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134306#p134306
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