Time Nick Message 00:06 PilzAdam Inocudom, thanks for the bug report 00:06 paramat WIP rainforest mod for mapgen v6 https://github.com/paramat/rainforest with climbable trunks 00:11 LazyJ paramat, a quick thanks for your 'watershed' mod. I've been waiting for mapgen like that for a long time. :D 00:18 Inocudom You are welcome, PilzAdam. 00:18 Inocudom Bye. 00:22 VanessaE oh dear G*d the irony 00:23 VanessaE this week's torah portion deals with the kashrut, specifically about prohibitions on consumption of certain animals... 00:23 VanessaE and what am I eating while I listen to services? PORK RINDS!!!!!! 00:25 LazyJ God will forgive you, VanessaE. Your doctor probably won't. :0) 00:26 VanessaE LazyJ: *actually* my doctor supports my low-carb/moderate-fat diet :) 00:26 VanessaE and i'm losing weight :) 00:26 VanessaE he just doesn't like my sodium intake 00:26 VanessaE (but I gotta have SOME kind of snack, and I'm too lazy to make more chicken salad) 00:26 LazyJ I have read that fats are essential to burning fats. Something about the body's mechanics. 00:26 VanessaE abso-fucking-lutely they are necessary! 00:27 VanessaE and your brain needs fat too 00:27 VanessaE it's like 60% fat or something, and it runs on the stuff 00:28 paramat hey cool LazyJ ! 00:28 LazyJ When the no-fat craze hit, the lack of certain fats didn't allow the absorption of fat-soluble nutrients and the body needs fats to trigger satiation. 00:28 VanessaE yup 00:28 LazyJ No fats = always hungry. 00:28 VanessaE exactly 00:29 VanessaE two 12oz cans of chicken + cheese + mayo lasts me about 1.5 days - and it's the ONLY thing I eat during that time usually 00:29 VanessaE (sometimes I will add pork rinds, or exactly and precisely ONE ~8oz portion of greek yogurt) 00:29 LazyJ paramat, I like the way you allow parts of your mods to be changed with setting options or even disabled without having to uninstall. 00:30 VanessaE well 1-1.5 days, depends on my overall level of hunger 00:30 paramat :) 00:30 LazyJ If you ever decide to include generated villages in your 'watershed' mod, may I request that the villages also be a enable/disable option? 00:31 VanessaE paramat: get said villages from nore's/sfan5's mapgen mod if you need inspiration. they're very good 00:31 VanessaE (I forget if you already have such a thing) 00:32 LazyJ I like to create my own villages. 00:32 paramat yeah i visited the mg server and i love those villages 00:36 LazyJ paramat, any plans to continue developing 'watershed' or is it an experiment leading to something more grand? 00:36 paramat but since im into modern architecture and scifi my villages would probably be weird 00:36 paramat id also rather do ancient ruins, pyramids etc 00:37 paramat its an evolving 'flagship' mapgen 00:37 paramat all my best ideas crammed in 00:37 LazyJ Excellent! 00:38 LazyJ I have a few long-term, singleplayer worlds that are mapgen v6. 00:38 LazyJ I really want to confidently base my long-term worlds in 'watershed' generated worlds. 00:40 paramat ah i see 00:40 LazyJ (paramat now runs for the door) 00:42 paramat well its up to you to keep records of all the parameters you use, including the perlin noise params ;) 00:44 paramat if i change mapgen you'll just get an interesting discontinuity between chunks, they make nice cross sections to look at 00:46 LazyJ I work in build in clusters and have yet to even come close to using a fraction of the full size potential of a world. 00:47 LazyJ So updates to 'watershed' aren't as much of a concern as having to switch to a different mapgen again. 00:48 LazyJ Minor concerns in the overall progress of Minetest. 00:49 LazyJ I'd much rather have progress than stagnation. 00:50 LazyJ Ok, enough out of me. 00:53 paramat o/ 06:43 hmmmm http://s22.postimg.org/6rme1sg8x/map_seed_531643182666794829.png 06:43 hmmmm modern art 10:12 Jordach just cracked a dogecoin block :D 10:20 Jordach https://mediacru.sh/XK9wi1nM1pBH.png :p 11:58 sfan5 !tell nore 1600x96x1600 mg map: https://mediacru.sh/4_t7ZtByoW_S.png 11:58 MinetestBot sfan5: yeah, sure, whatever 11:59 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot 11:59 MinetestBot <3 sfan5 12:02 sfan5 !tell nore 1600x96x1600 mg map: https://mediacru.sh/4_t7ZtByoW_S.png 12:02 MinetestBot sfan5: I'll pass that on when nore is around 12:02 sfan5 shit finally works! 12:05 sfan5 mg even does art: http://i.imgur.com/adr3L6k.png 12:30 sfan5 john_minetest: did you mean /usr/bin/cat? 12:31 reactor ~ $ which cat 12:31 reactor /bin/cat 12:33 sfan5 ~ $ where cat 12:33 sfan5 /bin 12:56 MinetestBot nore: 03-22 12:02 UTC 1600x96x1600 mg map: https://mediacru.sh/4_t7ZtByoW_S.png 13:04 * EvergreenTree flips Jordach 13:05 PenguinDad ¡flip john_minetest 13:05 EvergreenTree MinetestBot needs a !flip and !slap command 13:06 sfan5 as if MinetestBot would slap ppl 13:07 sfan5 she is a kitten 13:07 sfan5 a nice kitten 13:08 PenguinDad kittens only slap each other :p 13:09 EvergreenTree lol 13:42 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 13:45 EvergreenTree Hello PilzAdam! 13:46 PilzAdam how do I crash 0.4.6 servers= 13:46 PilzAdam *? 13:54 reactor !up mike402.no-ip.biz 50000 13:54 MinetestBot mike402.no-ip.biz:50000 is up (241ms) 13:58 sfan5 PilzAdam: why would you want to know that 13:58 PilzAdam http://www.globeminner.com/index.php/servers 13:58 PilzAdam 0.4.6 servers 13:59 reactor "minner" 14:02 proller 20 servers on one host? lol 14:02 reactor Maybe it's a NAT? 14:02 proller no 14:02 reactor How do we know? 14:03 proller they goal - collect money, not keeping servers 14:06 reactor oh 14:09 Jordach VanessaE, fix yer IRC server 14:10 Jordach !up isis.inchra.net 14:10 MinetestBot isis.inchra.net:30000 is up (415ms) 14:11 Jordach so minetest appears to be working 14:11 Jordach !up isis.inchra.net 30005 14:11 MinetestBot isis.inchra.net:30005 is up (105ms) 14:11 Jordach 08,01EVERYONE RUN 14:12 Jordach :P 14:12 * GhostDoge hides 14:12 reactor  14:12 reactor Eh? 14:12 reactor askj 14:13 reactor Whoops. 14:14 markveidemanis Hi 14:15 arsdragonfly1 It seems that a sed statement is all we need to make one's "own" voxel game 14:15 arsdragonfly1 Inb4 global"minner" 14:16 GhostDoge my pipe broke :( 14:16 * sfan5 throws a | at GhostDoge 14:20 markveidemanis https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134111#p134111 14:20 reactor arsdragonfly1: ? 14:20 reactor They do need to read about English spelling, yeah. 14:23 arsdragonfly1 They make money out of it after they change the name of it, since you won't pay for a stuff you can legally download from the internet 14:24 reactor So they sell old builds of MT? 14:24 reactor That reminds me of BolgenOS. 14:27 arsdragonfly1 They do. Click "get it" and you'll find that the only way of getting a copy is buying their disc 14:31 * Jordach thinks the change to LGPL was a bad idea 14:31 arsdragonfly1 , 14:31 arsdragonfly1 Indeed. Freeminer changed it back 14:32 markveidemanis Can it do that? 14:32 markveidemanis Its a fork though 14:39 hmmmm http://s2.postimg.org/byzzfwxmx/map_seed_741727892587839253.png 14:39 hmmmm more abstract art^ 14:40 hmmmm i title this piece, "Evil swallows all" 14:41 EvergreenTree My position on contemporary art is that I only like it if it serves some purpose or is functional 14:41 EvergreenTree I suppose that would be called contemporary design 14:41 hmmmm the functional purpose is entertainment 14:42 EvergreenTree That is pretty cool though 14:42 arsdragonfly1 It is. It's a map. 14:42 reactor hmmmm: what is that? An ink blotch? 14:42 EvergreenTree hmmmm: That's just the way I look at things 14:42 reactor That's not even an effing picture! 14:42 hmmmm it's abstract artwork 14:42 EvergreenTree I like things that are practical 14:42 EvergreenTree hmmmm, I know 14:43 EvergreenTree I'm not saying I don't like it, that's generally the way I look at things 14:43 reactor EvergreenTree++; 14:44 VanessaE isis.inchra.net:30000 ? um... well if you wanna use that address I guess it'll work but the official domain for my minetest servers is digitalaudioconcepts.com. 14:44 Jordach VanessaE, your IRC server ain't workin 14:46 PenguinDad isis.inchra.net works perfectly for me 14:46 VanessaE works for me, too 14:46 Jordach http://pastebin.com/FWrgSLa6 14:47 VanessaE well I'm on via ssl, so port 6697 for me 14:48 * VanessaE pokes ShadowNinja 14:56 Jordach VanessaE, 0.7k/hash within firefox, 0.02k/hash with CPU miner on all four cores 14:57 VanessaE cool 14:57 sfan5 hmmmm: 1) paint on oil thingy 2) sell 3) ??? 4) Profit 14:58 sfan5 s/thingy/canvas/ 14:58 Exio4 kh/s? 14:58 Exio4 what 14:59 VanessaE I put abe's machine to work on it last night too, between 8 cores and two GPUs (leaving 4 unused cores so we can get some normal desktop activities done) we're getting >120 kH/s 15:00 Exio4 about what kh/s are you talking 15:00 VanessaE exio: thousands of hashes per second in coin mining 15:00 Jordach https://mediacru.sh/ToA3loTnPfO2.png :P 15:00 Exio4 scrypt i guess 15:00 Exio4 :D 15:00 VanessaE Jordach mines Dogecoins, I'm working on Litecoins and NXT 15:00 Exio4 go to DOGE nd then sell it for LTC? 15:01 * Jordach just wants to tip people 15:01 VanessaE one can be traded for the other on some exchanges yeah 15:01 Exio4 also, 50kh/s with my cpu @ 4.2ghz 15:01 Exio4 the 6100 you know 15:02 Jordach i'm doing doge as it rewards me with bonus coins for cracking a big block 15:02 Exio4 because amazing integer performance w/ FXs 15:02 Jordach (and there is infinite ore) 15:02 Jordach s/ore/coins 15:02 * sfan5 high fives Jordach for using mediacru.sh 15:02 Exio4 also 15:02 VanessaE so far as of thursday evening I've made 0.05 ltc :) 15:03 VanessaE just have to wait for it the pool site I use to push it to my wallet 15:03 Jordach VanessaE, already made 0.016 Doge :O 15:03 Exio4 i've 16k~ DOGE 15:03 Exio4 Jordach: how the fuck are you mining 15:03 Exio4 unlss you're minig with a paper you should get more DOGE 15:03 Jordach Exio4, javascript because i'm the most lazy fuck you'll ever meet 15:03 Exio4 dumbass 15:04 Exio4 get cpuminer and leave it in background 15:04 Exio4 and gpu-mine w/ your APU 15:04 Jordach Exio4, i can run it on other machines 15:04 PenguinDad I have 1k~ DOGE 15:04 Exio4 :D 15:05 VanessaE if I had any trust at all in that old spare computer in my closet, I'd put it to work too (low-end GPU, single-core 3 GHz sempron, or some such thing) 15:05 Exio4 low-end gpu = no gpu mining? :P 15:05 VanessaE heh 15:06 Exio4 also, my low-end nvidia (gt610) gives out something like 10kh/s 15:06 reactor You spend more money on electricity than you earn. 15:06 Exio4 where are you mining Jordach 15:07 Exio4 reactor: "earn"? 15:07 Jordach Exio4, http://idigdoge.com 15:07 Exio4 wtf 15:08 reactor Exio4: eh? 15:08 VanessaE heh, that page automatically mines coins. interesting. 15:09 Exio4 0.033kh/s 15:09 VanessaE 0.217 kH/s 15:09 Jordach 0.8xx :D 15:09 Exio4 looks like shit 15:09 VanessaE and I've already got my CPU maxed out mining ltc 15:09 Exio4 did you OC it a bit? 15:09 VanessaE nope. no overclocking here, I'm flat OEM speeds. 15:09 VanessaE (I'm too chickenshit to overclock) 15:10 Exio4 :( 15:10 Exio4 what did i miss here? 15:11 Exio4 well, trying to clean windows is a PITA 15:11 reactor Exio4: what would you expect from a toy OS? 15:11 PenguinDad 1.5 kH/s on that site :P 15:12 VanessaE so don't use pita, use a cloth and ammonia. works better that way 15:12 reactor Ammonia enema to alleviate PITA. 15:14 arsdragonfly1 Mining with my phone... 15:15 Exio4 use a cpuminer comiled in your own 15:15 Exio4 works far better 15:15 arsdragonfly1 Wish it could be winter, so that I won't waste the heat 15:15 Exio4 poor you 15:16 Exio4 we're in oton~o :D 15:16 Exio4 south (and best) part of the world 15:18 reactor What does 'cornholio' mean? 15:18 Exio4 didn't remember how to spell it 15:19 VanessaE reactor: look up Beavis and Butthead. 15:19 Exio4 we're at 20C anyway 15:19 Exio4 19C outside 15:29 harrison https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAl5Azlzj1M 15:36 sfan5 !title 15:36 MinetestBot sfan5: The Everlove "Cities in Dust" - YouTube 15:36 sfan5 no 15:37 sfan5 I just want to know what it may be about w/o watching it 15:37 * sfan5 hugs MinetestBot 15:37 VanessaE there, I just put the dac server to work on it too (don't worry, I nice -n -20 the process) so now 12 cores + 2 GPUs. :) 15:43 VanessaE (I figure I'm already paying for the server and it's 80% idle, so why not put it to work, eh?) 15:43 sfan5 Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/R1QBgSz.jpg 15:46 harrison i loved that song -- the original version of it -- when it came out almost 30 years ago. but i only found out last month that it was about pompeii 15:47 reactor john_minetest: yeah, totally. 15:47 sfan5 john_minetest: http://i.imgur.com/xBBToEr.gif 15:47 Exio4 VanessaE: VPS? 15:47 Exio4 or dedi? 15:47 reactor Why does it so instantly remind of a space station when it's just a hair pin?! 15:47 Exio4 -20 is high priority isn't it? 15:48 VanessaE deidi 15:48 VanessaE dedi* 15:48 VanessaE -20 is low prio with the 'nice' command 15:48 VanessaE (it's opposite of usual, which always confused me :P ) 15:48 VanessaE at least I think it is 15:48 harrison prio as in priority or prio as in prion? 15:48 VanessaE no matter, I can change it 15:49 harrison the process so nice 15:49 harrison they had to nice it twice 15:49 VanessaE oh wait 15:50 VanessaE needs to be +19, not -20 15:50 VanessaE dammit 15:50 * VanessaE switches it 15:55 Exio4 VanessaE: told you 15:55 VanessaE yeah, that damn thing always confused me 15:56 VanessaE thanks for the sanity-check :) 15:59 Exio4 lol 16:01 harrison john_minetest you gave me a great idea: how about a film with music AND strange cubes? 16:04 harrison o i think i know which one you mean. a minute please 16:05 harrison https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu3swsAqQdw 16:13 sydney How do I get a pasword to conect to one of your servers? 16:15 PilzAdam sydney, there is no centralized password system 16:15 PilzAdam passwords are per-server, and you can usually set one the first time you connect 16:16 sydney PilzAdam: Well I have not had any luck connecting to a server. Can you help conect to one? 16:17 PilzAdam do you get any error messages? 16:17 sydney PilzAdam: Connection timed out. 16:18 PilzAdam what server have you tried? 16:18 Sokomine sydney: start with vanessaes mostly vanilla server. that ought to get you connected pretty reliably 16:18 Sokomine sydney: most other servers have more media data (textures etc.) and thus the first attempt at connection may fail 16:18 PilzAdam also what Minetest version do you use? 16:19 sydney PilzAdam: I don't know. the one I just downloaded. 16:20 PilzAdam its displayed in the top-left corner 16:20 sydney .3.1 16:21 PilzAdam that version is very outdated 16:21 sydney whats the newest? 16:21 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/download 16:21 PilzAdam 0.4.9 is the latest version 16:27 * Jordach is playing South Park: Stick of Truth 16:29 sydney How do I install version 4.9? 16:29 PilzAdam what OS do you have? 16:29 sydney PilzAdam: ubuntu 12.04 16:30 PilzAdam have you installed you current version with the package manager? 16:30 sydney Yes,I installed 3.5 with ubuntu software center. 16:31 Mark__ Hi 16:31 Mark__ oops 16:31 PilzAdam then first remove that version, add this ppa: ppa:minetestdevs/stable and install the package minetestc55 16:32 sydney PilzAdam: how do i install that ppa? 16:32 markveidemanis Anyone have Fedora/CentOS? 16:33 PilzAdam https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding_PPAs 16:33 PenguinDad I'm on Fedora right now but why do you ask? 16:33 arsdragonfly1 !up arsenalmp.no-ip.org 16000 16:33 MinetestBot arsenalmp.no-ip.org:16000 is up (597ms) 16:34 arsdragonfly1 server featuring my AdvancedMarket and RandomMessages mod is up... going to sleep 16:34 arsdragonfly1 see you guys tomorrow 16:35 markveidemanis I need a server build from Fedora 16:35 markveidemanis I tried with a VM, but nothing 16:36 harrison https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91jOniRKorE 16:36 markveidemanis PenguinDad, Would you be able to very kindly make me a build with -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DENABLE_CURL=0 -DBUILD_CLIENT=0 ? 16:44 sydney Thanks,everyone 16:45 VanessaE annnnnnnd..... abe's power supply just took a shit... and it was only drawing a little over half its rated load. good thing I had a spare. 16:57 markveidemanis VanessaE, What are the specs of your server? 17:01 VanessaE dual core i3, 3.4 GHz, 4 threads, 8GB ram, 2TB storage 17:01 markveidemanis Nice :) 17:01 VanessaE pulling 21 kH/s on litecoins right now with 4 threads. [obama-not-bad.jpg] 17:01 markveidemanis litecoins? 17:01 VanessaE forget it. 17:02 VanessaE bbl 17:02 Calinou VanessaE turned into a coin miner? I thought she was against it 17:02 VanessaE nope, I was just too lazy to bother 17:03 * markveidemanis 's server has 24 Cores 2Ghz each 17:03 Calinou but you don't get access to all of them 17:03 markveidemanis but *cough* 10GB *cough* 17:04 Calinou RAM doesn't mean performance 17:04 Calinou in fact, having lots of RAM is a tiny bit slower than a bit of RAM. ;) 17:04 Calinou but the difference is not visible 17:04 markveidemanis I mean 10GB disk space :P 17:04 markveidemanis haha 17:07 hoodedice Jordach! 17:08 PilzAdam hoodedice! 17:08 PilzAdam I have a question for you 17:09 hoodedice yw? 17:09 PilzAdam can you read? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8768 17:09 hoodedice !tell Jordach: Looks like someone bested you in making a minetest short lolol https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=133832#p133832 17:09 MinetestBot hoodedice: Do not put an : at the end of nickname 17:10 hoodedice Whoops. Sorry MinetestBot 17:10 hoodedice !tell Jordach Looks like someone bested you in making a minetest short lolol https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=133832#p133832 17:10 MinetestBot hoodedice: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around 17:10 hoodedice PilzAdam: Yes, very much so - Now where exactly did I commit an error? 17:11 PilzAdam "Everybody can use only one word for one day." 17:11 hoodedice "Everybody can use only one word for one day." - Therefore, as long as I use different words, I can post 17:12 PilzAdam its not "Everybody can use a lot of words for one day" 17:13 hoodedice Yes, but it does not include "Everybody *should* use one word for one day" 17:13 hoodedice It is a can. 17:13 hoodedice *can* 17:14 hoodedice So, again, "do it if you want to" is implied here 17:14 PilzAdam it doesnt make any sense if everbody could just keep posting 17:14 hoodedice But then, 17:14 hoodedice punctuation marks are not word 17:14 harrison why should a husk have flashing lights? 17:14 PilzAdam he isnt a native english speaker, you cant take everything he says literally 17:15 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134221#p134221 17:15 harrison because it is an emergent seed vehicle 17:15 hoodedice harrison 17:15 PilzAdam how about you just think what makes sense in a game like this? 17:15 hoodedice That was so funny, I jumped off a building twice 17:15 harrison i write most of my own material 17:16 harrison it is a gift 17:16 harrison one of many 17:16 hoodedice PilzAdam: The way I see it, I am allowed to post a unique word in my post everyday 17:16 MinetestBot GIT: Novatux commited to minetest/minetest: Fix "ghost stacks" created when a player clicks an item on the ground: 936c6f577a 2014-03-22T18:15:33+01:00 http://git.io/WUvugg 17:16 harrison how do you catch a unique rabbit? 17:16 harrison unique up on it 17:16 hoodedice Edit the OP if you want, but if I find a loophole, I won't be hesitating to abuse it =P 17:17 markveidemanis is minetest LGPL? 17:17 hoodedice LGPL 2.0 17:18 hoodedice Anyway, PilzAdam, have you seen this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8856 17:19 PilzAdam my Google Ultron cant display it 17:20 hoodedice Ultron is hacked, Use Internet Explorer 17:20 specing lolololoo 17:20 Calinou 2.1, hoodedice 17:20 Calinou (3 was available...) 17:21 hoodedice 2.1? 17:21 hoodedice oh. okay 17:22 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/8959384 17:22 hoodedice 2.1, markveidemanis, LGPL 2.1 17:22 hoodedice Sorry about that 17:22 PilzAdam markveidemanis, good joke 17:22 markveidemanis well same thing 17:23 hoodedice Also, markveidemanis, I am planning on massively greifing their servers 17:23 markveidemanis Not like they will notice 17:23 markveidemanis Im in! 17:23 hoodedice okay, anyone else with me? 17:23 markveidemanis gotta admit its a good website 17:23 hoodedice Nah, who you kidding, lol? 17:24 hoodedice We knew about it like, a month before the thread was created on the forums 17:25 hoodedice Let's start with port 30000 17:25 markveidemanis lets ... you got it 17:26 hoodedice Looks like the servers are offline 17:27 PilzAdam I think I crashed 30000 some hours ago 17:27 markveidemanis 30001 isnt 17:27 markveidemanis how? 17:27 PilzAdam throwing a lot of objects arround and setting a large forest on fire 17:27 markveidemanis ah, classic 17:28 markveidemanis what a shitty server then 17:29 markveidemanis You still loading? 17:29 hoodedice PilzAdam. Always a step ahead. 17:29 hoodedice Got into 30014 17:30 hoodedice Come on, let's party! 17:30 markveidemanis loading... 17:30 markveidemanis anyone else there? 17:31 hoodedice ...stuck on media. 17:31 hoodedice No wait 17:31 hoodedice 30013 17:31 hoodedice Sorry 17:32 markveidemanis Same, but the slider is moving 17:32 markveidemanis grrr 17:32 hoodedice Switch off preload 17:32 markveidemanis My cache is surprisingly small 17:33 hoodedice They don't even hve proper servers lol 17:36 markveidemanis LOADING... 17:36 * markveidemanis accisentally pressed Esc 17:36 hoodedice Okay, I'm gonna go in and tell everyone online about minetest first, then start griefing 17:37 hoodedice If I get banned, I'm gonna try reconnecting via proxy or something 17:37 * PilzAdam got 2 lava buckets on 30014 17:37 hoodedice PilzAdam: I'm on 30013 17:37 hoodedice Sorry about the typo 17:38 hoodedice PilzAdam: How? You hacked, or actually mined? 17:38 PilzAdam \o/ "Server shutting down" 17:38 hoodedice Wow 17:39 PilzAdam its actually faster to legit mine than to code a hacked client 17:39 markveidemanis We need a chart 17:39 hoodedice woah 17:39 markveidemanis Which servers are up 17:39 hoodedice mark, I'm in on 13 17:39 markveidemanis Could someone use minetestbot to map the ports? 17:39 markveidemanis I'm stuck on media 17:40 markveidemanis 30000-30019 17:40 sfan5 markveidemanis: which server? 17:41 PilzAdam 0 3 and 14 are down 17:41 markveidemanis all of them 17:41 markveidemanis Just once 17:41 sfan5 markveidemanis: which IP/domain? 17:41 markveidemanis well, they failed with the server numbering 17:41 markveidemanis globeminner.com 17:41 markveidemanis server1: 30000 server19: 30019 17:42 sfan5 !up globeminner.com 30000-30019 17:42 hoodedice 30013 is up 17:42 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30000 seems to be down 17:42 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30001 is up (242ms) 17:42 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30002 is up (253ms) 17:42 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30003 seems to be down 17:42 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30004 is up (252ms) 17:42 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30005 is up (233ms) 17:42 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30006 is up (231ms) 17:42 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30007 is up (226ms) 17:42 PilzAdam sfan5, .... 0 3 and 14 are down 17:42 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30008 is up (238ms) 17:42 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30009 is up (228ms) 17:42 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30010 is up (239ms) 17:42 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30011 is up (248ms) 17:42 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30012 is up (243ms) 17:42 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30013 is up (227ms) 17:42 PilzAdam sfan5, I already did that in PM 17:42 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30014 seems to be down 17:42 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30015 is up (227ms) 17:42 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30016 is up (220ms) 17:42 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30017 is up (232ms) 17:42 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30018 is up (227ms) 17:42 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30019 is up (234ms) 17:42 hoodedice PilzAdam: I need you on 13 17:42 sfan5 PilzAdam: well then 17:42 markveidemanis ok 17:43 specing lol globeminner 17:43 hoodedice Who is Corn? 17:43 PenguinDad hoodedice: i'm coming 17:43 PilzAdam Im "FuckYou" 17:44 PenguinDad or at least trying 17:44 hoodedice k, coolio 17:44 EvergreenTree trolling the minetest clone I see? 17:44 EvergreenTree I'm joining 17:46 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/8959429 17:48 hoodedice Daheck you make a steel bucket? 17:48 markveidemanis 3 steel 17:48 EvergreenTree Which server are all of you guys on? 17:48 markveidemanis 3,1 2,2 3,3 17:49 * markveidemanis updates 17:49 nore 1. they violate the license 2. it is impossible to join the servers because it is too long... 17:49 hoodedice got it 17:49 hoodedice EvergreenTree: 30013 17:49 nore (media...) 17:49 hoodedice nore, turn off preload 17:49 nore already turned off IIRC 17:50 PenguinDad hoodedice: media has nothing to do with preload 17:50 nore yep, just checked, it is 17:50 PilzAdam I have a cooler client now 17:50 nore no, media is meshes, etc 17:50 nore PilzAdam, what does that mean? 17:50 hoodedice PilzAdam: Got some steel ready, gotta dig for lava now 17:50 Calinou please, don't do childish stuff against them; it's a waste of time and makes us look bad 17:50 Calinou and don't even think about attacking/griefing/DDoSing them. 17:51 PilzAdam yay, its down 17:51 nore ^ I agree... only tell them that minetest exists and that this game violates its license 17:51 hoodedice Yaay 17:51 hoodedice nore, I'm putting up signs on it's servers 17:51 PilzAdam ... but.... but its so fun 17:51 hoodedice *its 17:52 markveidemanis It is 17:52 hoodedice PA: hacked client? 17:52 markveidemanis BUT I CANT JOIN! 17:52 hoodedice You so evil 17:52 nore maybe code some sort of bot that is connected to the server and says a message each time someone connects 17:53 hoodedice Boom, they'll ban the bot 17:53 specing maybe code a bot so nobody can connect? :D 17:53 hoodedice ^^ 17:53 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/8959445 17:53 specing I recommend the minetest devs include a backdoor into the codebase 17:53 hoodedice But, with the crappy transfer rates, no one can connect anyway =P 17:53 specing it'll be the easiest solution to this and all future such problems 17:54 hoodedice !g backdoor source code 17:54 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backdoor_(computing) 17:54 PilzAdam 1 is down 17:54 EvergreenTree What server is next? 17:54 EvergreenTree *port 17:54 nore PilzAdam, what does your client do? 17:55 hoodedice specing I think backdoors will only increase griefs on our own servers 17:55 hoodedice I say, 12 17:55 specing hoodedice: not if only one dev knows about it 17:55 nore specing, that's not possible with FOSS 17:55 specing why not? 17:55 hoodedice #OurCodeIsOpenSource 17:55 specing ofcourse it is 17:55 hoodedice #ninja'd 17:56 PenguinDad everybody with enough knowledge could find it 17:57 specing by that logic Linux should be exploit-free 17:57 specing but it isn't 17:57 markveidemanis How about one hash that you need to connect 17:57 specing and Linux has much, much more oversight than minetest 17:57 markveidemanis That san be disabled in the conf 17:57 markveidemanis But is not documented 17:58 PilzAdam 2 is down 17:59 specing john_minetest: yes it does 17:59 PilzAdam nore, evil stuff 17:59 nore that is? 18:00 specing john_minetest: there are many 18:00 PenguinDad Pure Evilness™ by PilzAdam 18:03 specing Linux has (had) a lot of priviledge escalation holes, no java needed 18:03 specing http://blog.includesecurity.com/2014/03/exploit-CVE-2014-0038-x32-recvmmsg-kernel-vulnerablity.html 18:03 PilzAdam specing, a blogpost is not a reliable source 18:04 specing That was given as an example 18:04 specing the x32 bug is quite severe 18:04 crazyR does anyone know how to make obsidian glass and clear glass seamless, ive seen it on the landrush server but cnt figure out how its done. 18:04 nore obsidian glass: cook an obsidian shard 18:05 hoodedice Who is corn?? 18:05 crazyR i know how to make it, what i mean is how do i make it look seamless, im guesing its some sort of rendering setting on my server 18:05 nore lol, even their dirt_with_snow texture is wrong 18:06 PenguinDad hoodedice: connected to 30012 18:06 PenguinDad I'm WhySoSerious 18:07 specing lol since when is windows relewant? 18:08 specing lolno 18:08 specing windows is a commercial program where time is of the essence 18:10 Calinou time is diesel 18:10 * Calinou gallops away 18:10 * john_minetest ignites the diesel. Btw, Diesel was a german guy. 18:11 markveidemanis got google plus? https://plus.google.com/105061542687357253886/posts 18:11 * Jordach dives for cover 18:11 MinetestBot Jordach: 03-22 17:10 UTC Looks like someone bested you in making a minetest short lolol https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=133832#p133832 18:11 * Jordach goes back to playing South Park: Stick of Truth 18:12 hoodedice EvergreenTree: Too fast 18:12 EvergreenTree The server shut down 18:12 hoodedice tI didn't get to do my job lol 18:12 hoodedice 12 is Down 18:12 hoodedice Yaay 18:12 EvergreenTree which one next? 18:12 lordawe hello there! :) 18:13 hoodedice 11 18:13 hoodedice Hello lordawe 18:14 markveidemanis Can someone update the paste? 18:15 sfan5 EvergreenTree: 30004-30011 & 30015-30019 are up 18:15 EvergreenTree we are working on 11 18:17 Calinou I recommend the minetest devs include a backdoor into the codebase 18:17 Calinou backdoor as in global moderator system? 18:18 Calinou it could be disabled by server admin, always, but in this case you could add a way to ban the server from the server list. 18:18 Calinou that's what Sauerbraten and Red Eclipse do, but the backdoor is almost never abused 18:18 sfan5 >ban the server from the server list 18:18 sfan5 we can do that 18:22 lordawe Can anybody help me with running server 0.4.9 ? 18:22 lordawe when i start ir regulary (on win7) it works perfectly 18:23 lordawe but when i run it from commandline it gives me error? 18:23 lordawe 07:34:55: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Failed to bind so 18:23 lordawe cket (port already in use?) 18:25 markveidemanis hahaha 18:25 EvergreenTree yay! 18:25 hoodedice 11 is DOWN!! 18:25 hoodedice Yay 18:25 EvergreenTree another one bites the dust 18:26 markveidemanis Which is next? 18:26 hoodedice 10! 18:26 EvergreenTree 10 is down 18:26 EvergreenTree I think 18:26 EvergreenTree is it? 18:26 markveidemanis nope 18:26 markveidemanis it up 18:26 hoodedice Wait 18:27 PenguinDad "cat /dev/urandom | ncat --udp globeminner.com port" this is evil 18:27 sfan5 PenguinDad: I have something even more evil 18:27 hoodedice sfan5: can you !up globeminner.com 30000-30019 ? 18:28 sfan5 hoodedice: doing right now 18:28 PenguinDad sfan5: what? :> 18:28 hoodedice Grief team: ON 10! 18:29 sfan5 PenguinDad: something that triggers an assert(false) 18:29 sfan5 it was fixed 18:29 sfan5 but I forgot when exactly 18:29 sfan5 so it may be vulnerable 18:29 sfan5 hoodedice: 04-15 & 15-19 up 18:29 hoodedice what?! 18:31 markveidemanis Im on 9 18:31 hoodedice Wow, looked like the sign bug worked lol 18:32 PilzAdam sfan5, was it something in 6d facedir? 18:32 PilzAdam oh wait, that was client side 18:32 sfan5 PilzAdam: no, in the minetest protocol itself 18:34 hoodedice Already crashed 9? 18:34 markveidemanis How do you do the bug? 18:34 sfan5 hoodedice: globeminner.com:30009 is up (905ms) 18:36 markveidemanis ${text} ? 18:36 hoodedice !up globeminner.com 30009 18:36 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30009 seems to be down 18:37 hoodedice !up globeminner.com 30008 18:37 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30008 is up (312ms) 18:37 hoodedice Dude, I need to place some signs before you can down the server, so WAIT 18:38 markveidemanis 30008 is down 18:38 hoodedice lol 18:38 hoodedice Someone is crashing all of them alone with the sign bug 18:38 markveidemanis On 30007 18:38 EvergreenTree 30007 18:38 hoodedice !sign bug minetest 18:38 markveidemanis !g sign bug minetest 18:38 MinetestBot markveidemanis: http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog 18:38 EvergreenTree that bug really must be fixed 18:39 markveidemanis 30007 armed 18:40 PilzAdam what sign bug? 18:40 hoodedice 7 is prolly down now 18:40 EvergreenTree 7 is down 18:40 hoodedice Dunno - whoever does it doesn't want to tell us 18:41 hoodedice 0.4.6 bg it seems 18:41 hoodedice Finishes the server in one minute 18:41 sfan5 04-06 & 15-19 up 18:44 PenguinDad I might have killed 05 18:44 EvergreenTree someone is crashing the servers 18:44 EvergreenTree it isn't us 18:44 hoodedice I think someone is DDOSing 18:44 hoodedice siriusly 18:44 sfan5 maybe it's PilzAdam with the evil script I have him? 18:44 hoodedice aha 18:44 PilzAdam nope 18:44 hoodedice nope to that nope 18:45 hoodedice Could be celeron55 for all we know 18:45 sfan5 lolno 18:46 hoodedice I'm leaving - gonna do something more useful =/ 18:46 hoodedice onpon4? 18:46 EvergreenTree 5 is down 18:47 * markveidemanis wonders if this happens with all servers 18:47 sfan5 EvergreenTree, hoodedice: 04,05 & 15-19 are left 18:47 EvergreenTree I can finish them off 18:47 EvergreenTree with the sign bug 18:47 sfan5 the web interface of my router just crashed 18:47 sfan5 well fuck 18:47 crazyR without sounding like im mithering, does anyone know the way to make clear glass look seamless by that i mean so there are no lines between nodes 18:48 hoodedice Standby on server 4 - heavily populated 18:48 PilzAdam crazyR, there is a node-drawtype for that 18:48 hoodedice We're placing signs to tell people about MT - Please don't crash it prematurely 18:50 * markveidemanis YellScrew 18:50 markveidemanis How populated? 18:50 lordawe well, goodbye 18:51 sfan5 !!!! 04 and 15-19 are left 18:51 crazyR PilzAdam Thanks. didi#nt even think of researching that 18:55 hoodedice down. Yaay 18:55 EvergreenTree 4 more to go 18:55 hoodedice on 3 18:55 hoodedice wait... 18:56 EvergreenTree 3 is down 18:56 EvergreenTree !up globeminner.com:30003 18:56 MinetestBot EvergreenTree: Syntax changed, please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337' 18:56 EvergreenTree !up globeminner.com 30003 18:56 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30003 seems to be down 18:56 sfan5 !! 15-19 left 18:56 EvergreenTree see 18:56 EvergreenTree yellscrew crashed 15 already 18:57 hoodedice lol 18:57 hoodedice Sad thing is - I'm not able to put up signs on all servers 18:58 CWz go 2 prots ahead then 18:58 CWz *ports 18:58 markveidemanis they changed their site! 18:58 EvergreenTree crashing 17 18:58 EvergreenTree 17 crashed 18:59 EvergreenTree 18 crashed 18:59 hoodedice lol 18:59 hoodedice What is it now mark? 18:59 markveidemanis Hmm? 18:59 hoodedice BTW, I got the bug 18:59 markveidemanis I'm YS 19:00 hoodedice =D 19:00 hoodedice But please wait for my signs first 19:00 hoodedice ^This is IMPORTANT 19:00 CWz Yes wait 19:00 rubenwardy Hi all 19:00 EvergreenTree alright, fine 19:00 EvergreenTree only 19 is left 19:00 hoodedice Hi rubenwardy 19:00 sfan5 EvergreenTree: 18 and 19 are left 19:00 markveidemanis How do you do the minetestbot port range again? 19:01 EvergreenTree I though I crashed 18 19:01 EvergreenTree *thought 19:01 sfan5 !up globeminner.com 30018 19:01 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30018 is up (1782ms) 19:01 markveidemanis !up globeminner.com 30017 19:01 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30017 seems to be down 19:01 markveidemanis !up globeminner.com 30019 19:01 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30019 is up (244ms) 19:02 rubenwardy What are you guys doing? 19:02 markveidemanis erm...nothing 19:02 markveidemanis !up globeminner.com 30018 19:02 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30018 seems to be down 19:02 markveidemanis heh 19:02 PilzAdam rubenwardy, nothing to see here, move along 19:03 sfan5 rubenwardy: they are crashing all globeminner servers 19:03 rubenwardy Is it based on Minetest? Or are you getting jealous of other clones? 19:03 rubenwardy ha 19:03 EvergreenTree no, it is illegal 19:03 EvergreenTree it violates lgpl 19:03 rubenwardy 30 km. I guess it is based on Minetest. 19:04 PenguinDad it is based on minetest 19:04 EvergreenTree !up globeminner.com 30019 19:04 hoodedice Down 19:04 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30019 seems to be down 19:04 rubenwardy Why does this happen? 19:04 hoodedice Yaay 19:04 EvergreenTree all servers are down 19:04 hoodedice Woot! 19:04 rubenwardy Are you DDoS-ing them? 19:04 hoodedice Party! 19:05 hoodedice Nope, ${text} ing them 19:05 EvergreenTree Yep 19:05 hoodedice =P 19:05 EvergreenTree Exploiting a bug more like 19:05 EvergreenTree It segfaults the server 19:05 rubenwardy That website is rubbish 19:05 EvergreenTree but it was fixed in minetest 19:05 rubenwardy lol 19:05 markveidemanis !up globeminner.com 30000 - 30019 19:05 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30000 seems to be down 19:05 PilzAdam rubenwardy, I crashed some by setting forests on fire 19:05 sfan5 MinetestBot: reports none up 19:05 sfan5 Congrats, I guess 19:05 hoodedice Yaay 19:06 EvergreenTree ip of website? 19:06 PilzAdam now how do we crash the website? 19:06 hoodedice "I guess" 19:06 rubenwardy Just all refresh constantly 19:06 hoodedice We are Anonymous. 19:06 hoodedice We are Legion. 19:06 EvergreenTree what is the ip of the website? 19:06 PilzAdam 50.198.2.134 19:06 hoodedice We are Invincible. Not really. But Still 19:06 hoodedice Everyone "ping 50.198.2.134" 19:06 hoodedice trololol 19:07 sfan5 !py __import__('os').popen("dig globeminner.com | grep A").read() 19:07 MinetestBot ';; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 50461\n;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0\n;globeminner.com.\t\tIN\tA\n;; ANSWER SECTION:\nglobeminner.com.\t167\tIN\tCNAME\tsurftodonate.com.\nsurftodonate.com.\t47\tIN\tA\t50.198.2.134\n' 19:07 sfan5 >surftodonate.com 19:07 sfan5 wut 19:07 EvergreenTree their website is rubbish 19:07 PilzAdam lol, they have globeminner.com and www.globeminner.com 19:07 EvergreenTree it is designed poorly 19:07 EvergreenTree it must die 19:07 rubenwardy 50.198.2.133 19:08 rubenwardy ^ their ip 19:08 hoodedice Gonna DDOS? 19:08 rubenwardy lol 19:08 EvergreenTree How do you ping the server? 19:08 sfan5 !py __import__('os').popen("whois 50.198.2.133").read() 19:08 MinetestBot '\n#\n# ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use\n# available at: https://www.arin.net/whois_tou.html\n#\n\n\n#\n# The following results may also be obtained via:\n# http://whois.arin.net/rest/nets;q=50.198.2.133?showDetails=true&showARIN=false&ext=netref2\n#\n\n\n# start\n\nNetRange: 50.198.2.128 - 50.198.2.135\nCIDR: 50.198.2.128/29\nOriginAS: \nNetName: ITCTECHNOLOGIES\nNetHandle: NET-50-198-2 19:08 rubenwardy http://50.198.2.133/phpMy/ 19:09 rubenwardy ^ their PHPmyAdmin 19:09 PilzAdam #ddosglobeminner <- all join! 19:09 sfan5 oh what the fuck 19:09 sfan5 lol 19:09 sfan5 !py __import__('os').popen("whois 50.198.2.133 | grep address").read() 19:09 MinetestBot '' 19:09 markveidemanis Im pinging with 65500 bytes 19:09 sfan5 really? 19:10 sfan5 pinging with 65500 bytes won't get you anywhere 19:10 markveidemanis why? 19:10 PenguinDad they don't seem to respond for 19:10 sfan5 if you want serious stuff do an tcp syn flood 19:10 PenguinDad +me 19:10 PilzAdam IIRC you can crash some old windows version by pinging it 19:10 sfan5 PilzAdam: old = Win 2000 in this case 19:10 rubenwardy ha! 19:11 rubenwardy http://globeminner.com/ and http://www.globeminner.com/ go to different websites! 19:11 sfan5 they have Apache/2.2.25 (Win32) PHP/5.3.27 19:11 sfan5 who the fuck hosts server on windows? 19:11 PenguinDad windows O_O 19:11 w_laenger hi 19:12 PilzAdam "Globeminner is like MineCraft with key differences such as there are no limitations on the number of blocks you can build in any direction" 19:12 PilzAdam lol 19:12 PilzAdam http://images.ilovepetras.com/gm/globeminner_r19_c17.png 19:12 hoodedice lol 19:13 PilzAdam thats totally how their interface looks 19:13 EvergreenTree I think ddosing is illegal 19:13 sfan5 EvergreenTree: we are not ddosing 19:13 hoodedice It is, if it cause more than $5000 in loss 19:13 hoodedice =P 19:14 EvergreenTree ah 19:14 PenguinDad violating the LGPL is illegal too 19:14 sfan5 ahahahahahha 19:14 hoodedice Since they are stealing from *us*, so yeah 19:15 PilzAdam vigilantism is illegal too 19:15 sfan5 hoodedice: https://mediacru.sh/JdLDfK6Z0EnJ.png 19:15 Calinou who the fuck hosts server on windows? 19:15 Calinou about 35% of servers 19:15 Calinou 9% of supercomputers 19:15 hoodedice sfan5: well? 19:15 hoodedice Seen that already 19:15 sfan5 hoodedice: I was asking where you get your blenders 19:16 hoodedice -.- 19:16 hoodedice From microcenter 19:16 hoodedice (lol) 19:16 hoodedice Do we send a mail to globem guys? 19:16 w_laenger http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3149355/what-happens-to-those-who-break-open-source-license 19:17 hoodedice Maybe just sue them lol 19:17 hoodedice Split the money among everyone on Minetest 19:17 hoodedice Forums. 19:17 rubenwardy https://www.flickr.com/photos/rubenwardy/13334618514/in/photostream/ 19:18 hoodedice flickr? n00b 19:18 rubenwardy Would you rather I linked to google plus? 19:18 hoodedice Real imaging guys use imgur 19:18 w_laenger !up minetest.org 30015 19:18 MinetestBot minetest.org:30015 is up (951ms) 19:18 markveidemanis Let's buy bitcoins! 19:18 hoodedice plus.google.com is better =) 19:19 hoodedice Anyway 19:19 markveidemanis https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8836 19:19 hoodedice "Real imaging guys use imgur". Like this Real IT techie Real imaging guys use imgur 19:19 sfan5 !title 19:19 MinetestBot sfan5: Wanted - Fedora CentOS Build (Page 1) — Bugs and Problems — Minetest Forums 19:19 hoodedice *oops: http://imgur.com/gallery/iJD8f 19:19 hoodedice *cough* https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134243#p134243 19:20 sfan5 !title 19:20 MinetestBot sfan5: MINETEST SURVIVAL MODE SERIES ON UTUBE (Page 1) — General Discussion — Minetest Forums 19:20 Calinou "utube" http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2n7hoaRdd1r3k1m8o1_500.png 19:20 Calinou Real imaging guys use imgur 19:20 Calinou mediacru.sh ;) 19:21 Calinou plus.google.com is better =) 19:21 w_laenger http://paste.ubuntu.com/7137386/ 19:21 Calinou certainly not privacy-wise 19:21 sfan5 utube(.de) was/is actually a site to download YT videos 19:21 hoodedice Calinou, it was #PIlzAdamstyleSarcasm 19:22 sfan5 w_laenger: you moved /usr/lib/libIrrlicht.a or something else happend to it; run CMake again 19:22 w_laenger doing cmake again doesn't help 19:22 w_laenger I also did make clean 19:22 * hoodedice goes back to important things 19:22 sfan5 w_laenger: try deleting CMakeCache.txt 19:23 w_laenger thanks 19:24 w_laenger maybe it's because I use a .sh script that I don't have to mention the settings(like DENABLE_...) every time 19:25 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134247#p134247 19:25 sfan5 !title 19:25 MinetestBot sfan5: GlobeMinner: another minetest ripoff (Page 1) — Minetest-related projects — Minetest Forums 19:29 Calinou "ripoff" is rarely a good term. 19:29 hoodedice Indeed. 19:30 w_laenger http://ubuntuone.com/0dXRrB0BRbUG1uNXXjNX6w Gronkh lives in germany, doesn't he? 19:30 Calinou I think he does 19:31 w_laenger and GEMA mentioned "country" 19:31 w_laenger so did he get problems with nonfree music? 19:33 w_laenger ok 19:36 hoodedice w/e. Just listen to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxroiTRg7Tg 19:36 sfan5 !title 19:36 MinetestBot sfan5: Amerika - Rammstein (English Subtitles) - YouTube 19:37 w_laenger and he can't watch every of his videos where he put the music 19:37 hoodedice john_minetest: Rammstein CD? 19:38 w_laenger something less offtopic: http://ubuntuone.com/1ct3f95oVSADZKLTWsfR3i ← is there a maximum length of characters a name can have? 19:38 hoodedice wow. 19:39 w_laenger you could try to repair it 19:40 w_laenger you only would need very fine glue 19:41 w_laenger why not? 19:41 hoodedice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS0paP2ekfg 19:41 w_laenger ↑ is not broken into 2 halves 19:42 hoodedice Use glue... owait... 19:43 w_laenger glue: http://is.gd/kdmblY 19:43 w_laenger sounds a bit like the music of sauerbraten 19:44 Calinou marc a pullen :D 19:44 Calinou I have all of his albums 19:45 w_laenger http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmEbNt_G6Ac 19:51 w_laenger please add psm (perspective shadow mapping) to minetest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4roGXu4gOM 19:52 hoodedice !tell RealBadAngel: Can you consider perspective shadow mapping for Minetest? Or do we already have it? 19:52 MinetestBot hoodedice: Do not put an : at the end of nickname 19:52 hoodedice !tell RealBadAngel Can you consider perspective shadow mapping for Minetest? Or do we already have it? 19:52 MinetestBot hoodedice: I'll pass that on when RealBadAngel is around 19:52 hoodedice w_laenger: Done. 19:52 w_laenger thanks 19:52 Enke Looks pretty. :-) 19:53 MinetestBot john_minetest: yeah, sure, whatever 19:54 w_laenger let me try 19:54 w_laenger !tell wilhelm Lol, I guess you got a lot of messages when you join. 19:54 MinetestBot w_laenger: I'll pass that on when wilhelm is around 19:54 w_laenger ~help 19:54 ShadowBot w_laenger: help [] [] 19:54 w_laenger ~tell wilhelm Lol, I guess you got a lot of messages when you join. 19:54 ShadowBot w_laenger: O.K. 19:55 ShadowBot john_minetest: O.K. 19:55 wilhelm lol 19:55 MinetestBot wilhelm: 03-22 19:53 UTC Lol, I guess you got a lot of messages when you join. 19:55 wilhelm nice 19:55 MinetestBot wilhelm: 03-22 19:54 UTC Lol, I guess you got a lot of messages when you join. 19:55 wilhelm :D 19:56 w_laenger /nick RealBadAngel 19:57 w_laenger you could try out hot glue and much precision to repair the CD and you may fetch some data from it 19:57 MinetestBot w_laenger: 03-22 19:57 UTC Lol! 19:57 sfan5 !g perspective shadow mapping 19:57 MinetestBot sfan5: http://http.developer.nvidia.com/GPUGems/gpugems_ch14.html 19:57 nate_ There we go 19:57 nate_ ~hi 19:57 ShadowBot Hello nate_! 19:58 w_laenger !g irrlicht psm 19:58 MinetestBot w_laenger: http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=263036 19:58 PenguinDad hi ShadowBot 19:58 ShadowBot Hello PenguinDad! 20:00 w_laenger you could add an embedded irc to minetest.net http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/chat/ 20:01 nate_ Micro u here 20:01 sfan5 !seen Microchip 20:01 MinetestBot sfan5: microchip was last seen at 2014-02-19 03:49:40 UTC on #minetest 20:01 w_laenger !seen PilzAdam 20:01 MinetestBot w_laenger: pilzadam was last seen at 2014-03-21 11:08:57 UTC on #minetest 20:01 nate_ ~seen microchip 20:01 ShadowBot nate_: I saw microchip in #minetest 7 weeks, 1 day, 22 hours, 45 minutes, and 13 seconds ago saying "Does anybody know how to change the distance that player names are visible at on a server?". 20:02 w_laenger ~seen w_laenger 20:02 ShadowBot w_laenger: I saw w_laenger in #minetest 29 seconds ago saying "!seen PilzAdam". 20:02 Eater4 U stole isis.inchra.net Bot XD net split 20:03 Eater4 ~seen Microchip 20:04 ShadowBot Eater4: I saw Microchip in #minetest 7 weeks, 1 day, 22 hours, 47 minutes, and 21 seconds ago saying "Does anybody know how to change the distance that player names are visible at on a server?". 20:04 w_laenger you need to press + or - 20:04 PenguinDad ~logger seenany knifethrower93 20:04 ShadowBot PenguinDad: I saw knifethrower93 in #minetest 1 day, 6 hours, 28 minutes, and 25 seconds ago quiting (Client Quit) 20:06 w_laenger Do you think using this causes much lag? https://github.com/HybridDog/miscellaneous/blob/master/txt/on_enter_chunk.lua 20:09 w_laenger ~up digitalaudioconcepts.com 30000-30015 20:09 ShadowBot w_laenger: Error: Too many Ports specified 20:09 w_laenger ~up digitalaudioconcepts.com 30000-30010 20:09 ShadowBot w_laenger: digitalaudioconcepts.com port 30000 is up (945ms) | port 30001 is up (945ms) | port 30002 is up (944ms) | port 30004 is up (943ms) | port 30005 is up (942ms) | port 30003 is up (944ms) | port 30006 is down | port 30007 is down | port 30008 is down | port 30010 is down | port 30009 is down 20:09 w_laenger ~up digitalaudioconcepts.com 30000-3000 20:09 ShadowBot w_laenger: digitalaudioconcepts.com 20:10 w_laenger ~up digitalaudioconcepts.com -1 20:10 ShadowBot w_laenger: Error: Invalid Port: 20:10 w_laenger !calc 1+1 20:10 w_laenger !c 1+1 20:10 MinetestBot 2 20:10 w_laenger !c 90! 20:10 MinetestBot SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing (, line 1) 20:11 rubenwardy w_laenger: minetest.register_globalstep(function(delta) 20:11 w_laenger oops 20:12 rubenwardy and then do t_old += delta 20:12 rubenwardy and t_old > 1000 (1 sec) 20:12 PilzAdam w_laenger, could you stop abusing the bots? 20:12 rubenwardy and tn = 0 20:12 * w_laenger will try it 20:12 w_laenger the thing of pilzadam 20:13 w_laenger += works with lua? 20:15 rubenwardy I think so 20:15 w_laenger stdin:1: syntax error near '+' 20:15 * w_laenger doesn't 20:16 w_laenger dtime could work faster than os.clock() 20:18 w_laenger (or delta) 20:22 w_laenger and now it's quiet 20:29 hoodedice Who is PandaFu? 20:30 hoodedice Cwz: Are you PandaFu? 20:30 CWz nope 20:30 hoodedice Someone just griefed globemminer server 0 with that nick 20:34 PilzAdam all the servers are up again 20:34 hoodedice We 20:34 hoodedice We're going to just place signs all over the place 20:34 hoodedice But I don't think it will help - Getting the site and games down should be our main priority 20:35 hoodedice SignBug, did you grief?? 20:35 CWz No 20:36 hoodedice How did it shut down? 20:36 hoodedice I think they are monitoring us 20:37 hoodedice PilzAdam: dafuq? 20:40 hoodedice I think all servers are shutting down? 20:40 hoodedice !up globeminner.com 30000-30019 20:40 MinetestBot hoodedice: To check multiple Ports please use Query 20:40 hoodedice !help 20:40 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md 20:40 CWz i think it's best to just leave there servers alone. it won't accomplish much. 20:41 hoodedice !up globeminner.com 30000 20:41 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30000 is up (585ms) 20:41 hoodedice weird 20:42 hoodedice They're shutting it down when I connect lol 20:42 PilzAdam hoodedice, maybe its the mapblock loading that contains the sign 20:43 EvergreenTree I just noticed this post on the forums: 20:43 CWz also: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134259#p134259 20:43 hoodedice Dude, check this out lol https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134259#p134259 20:43 EvergreenTree https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134259#p134259 20:43 hoodedice Wow, triple ninjas 20:43 EvergreenTree lol 20:43 EvergreenTree legit or not? 20:43 hoodedice not legit 20:44 PilzAdam Jordach, check the IP 20:44 CWz is there a need to be worried 20:44 hoodedice A. We griefed, not hacked - therefore we are safe 20:44 hoodedice Griefing is not defined. 20:44 hoodedice B. They Violated the LGPL, causing US losses in customers 20:44 hoodedice With a complete copy of our game 20:44 PilzAdam he still has to provide the sourcecode 20:45 hoodedice Indeed. ^ 20:45 PilzAdam has someone bought it to check if you get the code then? 20:45 EvergreenTree it would be a waste of money 20:45 hoodedice Indeed. 20:46 EvergreenTree "Hacking" 20:46 EvergreenTree That was not hacking 20:46 EvergreenTree it effected nothing except minetestserver 20:46 rubenwardy lol 20:46 MinetestBot rubenwardy: 03-22 20:25 UTC I think += works with c++ 20:47 EvergreenTree It's also their fault for using a version of minetest which has that bug 20:47 EvergreenTree :P 20:49 hoodedice Guys: http://pastebin.com/ZaLAgvFu 20:49 hoodedice Need to add more to that 20:49 rubenwardy How sure are we that they modified the Minetest source code? 20:50 EvergreenTree they probably violated the licenses of the mods they used as well 20:50 EvergreenTree *some of 20:50 EvergreenTree If we can join with a minetest client, it is minetest 20:50 * EvergreenTree checks the licenses of the mods he saw used 20:50 rubenwardy I will be super pissed if they ripped off one of my mods. 20:51 PenguinDad or of the texture packs they used 20:51 EvergreenTree Yep, they violated the lgpl license of mesecons 20:51 EvergreenTree and I believe that is the dokucraft pack 20:51 hoodedice It IS Minetest 20:51 hoodedice lol guys 20:52 hoodedice Is this ok: http://pastebin.com/bD2XqTaD 20:52 rubenwardy awesome https://www.youtube.com/user/Vihart 20:53 rubenwardy +1 20:53 EvergreenTree lol, "slander of the globeminner name needs to stop as well." 20:53 rubenwardy not sure about the last comment 20:53 EvergreenTree You have to be kidding me 20:54 EvergreenTree look at what globeminner posted 20:55 hoodedice I'm on it 20:56 EvergreenTree Where on earth did they get "globemiNNer" from? 20:56 EvergreenTree At first, i tried to spell the IP globeminer 20:56 EvergreenTree :P 20:56 hoodedice Meh, I'm actually scared bout them pulling a lawsuit 20:57 EvergreenTree I am too 20:57 rubenwardy no 20:57 hoodedice Just because it would give celeron some additional headaches 20:57 hoodedice It is easily winnable, but teh headaches 20:57 EvergreenTree yeah 20:57 rubenwardy I would contribute to law expenses 20:57 EvergreenTree it's just a pain 20:57 hoodedice We could get the GPL in on this too 20:58 rubenwardy fuck sake 20:58 EvergreenTree What I would say to whoever create globeminner: "Does it really matter?" 20:58 rubenwardy they use my capture the flag game 20:58 EvergreenTree this is just going too far 20:58 PilzAdam hoodedice, the copyright notice on the website only applies to the website 20:59 hoodedice But the implication? 21:00 EvergreenTree Nowhere on their website has anything to do with minetest 21:00 hoodedice What is the minetest icon licensed under? 21:01 EvergreenTree not so much as a link 21:01 hoodedice The game uses the MT icon 21:01 sfan5 hoodedice: CC-BY-SA IIRC 21:01 EvergreenTree and 14$ for that? 21:01 EvergreenTree never 21:01 hoodedice Cool. They also violated CC-By-SA 21:01 rubenwardy Has anyone got a zip of the game?> 21:01 rubenwardy I want to check that my capture the flag game has not been violated 21:01 EvergreenTree Also, the skin on their home page is someone else's IIRC 21:02 sfan5 rubenwardy: they also violated NekoGloop's copyright 21:02 rubenwardy which one? 21:02 sfan5 the used his(/her) avatar in some picture on their site 21:02 EvergreenTree They violated Mesecon's license too 21:02 rubenwardy Build a list of the violations 21:02 EvergreenTree They also used some textures from VE's HD pack 21:02 hoodedice I have a picture of the folder structure 21:03 EvergreenTree and dokucraft 21:03 hoodedice Go to the buy link, click on documentation 21:03 hoodedice See the Troubleshooting pdf 21:03 sfan5 rubenwardy: http://www.globeminner.com/images/globeminnerppl2.jpg vs. https://forum.minetest.net/img/avatars/2600.png 21:03 rubenwardy I see 21:05 rubenwardy lol 21:05 EvergreenTree It's just a conglomeration of textures from everywhere 21:05 rubenwardy they can't even rip it off correctly 21:05 rubenwardy "minetest.exe" 21:05 EvergreenTree ^ 21:05 PenguinDad sfan5: john_minetest's copyright got violated too https://forum.minetest.net/img/avatars/3464.png 21:05 EvergreenTree Let's make a list of violations somewhere 21:06 EvergreenTree john_minetest: on globeminner.com 21:06 * CheapSeth did'nt know they were griefers on minetest 21:06 sfan5 PenguinDad: and the various tools they have there, violated minetest_game license (CC-BY-SA) 21:08 EvergreenTree hm, they took textures from minetest_game for the banner 21:08 EvergreenTree those IIRC are cc-by-sa 21:08 hoodedice CheapSeth: Everyone became a griever 21:08 hoodedice =P 21:09 EvergreenTree I'll join one of their servers again with a different more normal alias and see what stuff they have installed 21:10 hoodedice EvergreenTree: I'm already doing it, lol 21:12 sfan5 PenguinDad: the first player at the bottom (from the left) is from this texture pack's 0.3.1 version: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=402p2 21:13 CheapSeth Is there any way to enable per player creative mode? 21:13 sfan5 PenguinDad: well not really.. but google finds it, Gambit removed it IIRC 21:13 sfan5 Gambit: not you :) 21:14 PenguinDad CheapSeth: you can do that with unified inventory's creative priv 21:14 CheapSeth hoodedice: Yes, i was too innocent for this cruel worl of lava and flames D: 21:15 CheapSeth PenguinDad: Thank you! I'm going to look at it 21:15 hoodedice CheapSeth: What? 21:16 hoodedice oh okay 21:16 hoodedice lol 21:25 Eater4 Hi 21:26 * rubenwardy feels stupid after he accidentally plugged a microphone into a headset jack... 21:26 rubenwardy (and then wondered why it wouldn't work) 21:26 sfan5 >We prefer you do not post our server list, no permission has been give for this. 21:26 sfan5 guys guys 21:26 sfan5 I have a good idea 21:27 sfan5 they don't want us to post the globeminner.com servers on the server list, how about we do that to annoy them :> 21:27 hoodedice rofllmao 21:30 PenguinDad firefox just crashed when refreshing that page 21:31 sfan5 :) :) :) 21:32 sfan5 the assert(false) bug is present in 0.4.6 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/0.4.6/src/connection.cpp#L1436 21:33 hoodedice so? 21:33 sfan5 hoodedice: send \x4F\x45\x74\x03\x00\x00\x00\x03\xFF\xDC\x03 , server crashes 21:35 PenguinDad !up globeminner.com 21:35 MinetestBot globeminner.com:30000 is up (565ms) 21:36 hoodedice To? 21:36 hoodedice Via text? 21:36 EvergreenTree send to what? 21:37 hoodedice in chat? 21:37 sfan5 hoodedice: via raw socket 21:38 hoodedice *cough* Simple English please 21:38 hoodedice Hi Amaz 21:38 hoodedice What were you doing on the Globeminner servers? 21:38 sfan5 hoodedice: open an udp socket to globeminner.com 30000 and send that 21:39 hoodedice sfan5: That looks serious shit - not doing that, sorry 21:39 hoodedice greifing was bad enough 21:39 EvergreenTree We don't want to do anything that is actuallly hacking 21:39 EvergreenTree *ll 21:39 EvergreenTree Whoever created globeminner has no idea what they are doing 21:40 EvergreenTree I'd be interested to see who it is 21:40 sfan5 I don't think that is considered hacking 21:40 CheapSeth Sorry, what is globeminner? It looks like a bad, proprietary fork? 21:40 CheapSeth -? 21:40 sfan5 CheapSeth: http://globeminner.com 21:40 rubenwardy or www.globeminner.com 21:41 EvergreenTree sfan5: we just don't want to push it 21:41 EvergreenTree maybe we can have that guy come on irc 21:41 domtron I don't know hacking is basically exploiting bugs to do serious harm to a digital infrastructure. 21:41 hoodedice Nah, not on IRC 21:41 hoodedice Indeed domtron 21:42 EvergreenTree domtron: yep 21:42 sfan5 EvergreenTree: exploiting the sign bug is exactly the same as what I said 21:42 rubenwardy Remember that anything you say here, he can read. 21:42 hoodedice AFAIK there needs to be some losses in excess of $5000 to be considered a hack 21:42 EvergreenTree we did not do serious harm to a digital infrastructure 21:42 sfan5 it exploits a bug in the software to dos a service 21:42 rubenwardy WOT is awesome 21:42 hoodedice sfan5: We did it once, enough 21:43 EvergreenTree what we did only affected minetestserver 21:43 EvergreenTree we don't want to do it again 21:43 hoodedice Do we want a crappy lawsuit? 21:43 EvergreenTree I kind of regret doing it in the first place 21:43 hoodedice Sent the message across 21:43 hoodedice Made him come over and talk 21:43 rubenwardy I don't think he will lawsuit 21:43 CheapSeth How surprising! A bad, proprietary fork (with an ugly website that could seem legit for my grandmother). 21:44 EvergreenTree CheapSeth: ikr? 21:44 EvergreenTree terrible design 21:44 domtron I belive there is some open source organization that helps FOSS projects with OS copyright infringement. 21:44 EvergreenTree we had this problem with an illegal port for android 21:45 CheapSeth EvergreenTree: indeed. He must be a designer from Apple or something. 21:45 hoodedice "an illegal port"? 21:45 EvergreenTree wrong terminology 21:45 hoodedice Buddy, there are TONS of illegal ports of MT (read: 5 or so) 21:45 EvergreenTree I know 21:45 CheapSeth Minetest should be GPLv3 21:45 EvergreenTree *illegal ports 21:45 EvergreenTree CheapSeth: It should 21:45 EvergreenTree GPLv3 is better for protection against this kind of thing 21:46 EvergreenTree all my mods will switch to it 21:46 rubenwardy https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/globeminner.com?utm_source=addon&utm_content=rw-viewsc#view 21:46 domtron Does the minetest engine license allow for commercial usage? 21:46 rubenwardy http://www.globeminner.com/ is a much better time 21:47 rubenwardy domtron: yes, but not w/o releasing modified code 21:47 EvergreenTree what should I rate it on WOT? 21:47 domtron ya just saw your post. 21:47 rubenwardy Scam, illegal 21:48 CheapSeth Why can't we send an email to the free software foundation? 21:48 domtron how do I agree with a post? Does it require a login? 21:49 rubenwardy probably 21:49 rubenwardy also, subscribe to my youtube! https://www.youtube.com/user/AjayWard 21:49 rubenwardy XD 21:50 hoodedice Switch to GPLv3 I agree 21:50 hoodedice Let's bug Celeron about it 21:50 domtron CheapSeth: we can but we should at least contact him first. He may take it down with just the threat of legal action. 21:51 rubenwardy He may genuinely believe he is not doing anything wrong 21:51 CheapSeth Indeed 21:52 EvergreenTree rubenwardy: that is possible 21:52 EvergreenTree rubenwardy: do you use linux? 21:52 EvergreenTree or windows? 21:52 sfan5 wait.. wut 21:52 sfan5 ilovepetras.com, globeminner.com are both hosted from a comcast IP 21:52 sfan5 that comcast IP was also used to register the globeminner forum account 21:52 rubenwardy I am on Windows now, as I am doing college coursework 21:52 EvergreenTree ah 21:53 rubenwardy I use ubuntu for c++ development, and other things. Windows for games and college stuff. 21:53 EvergreenTree I was going to suggest you use simplescreenrecorder instead of bandicam, but it only works on linux 21:53 rubenwardy I don't use bandicam on linux. I can't remember what I use :P 21:53 rubenwardy Thank you though, I will check it out 21:54 sfan5 lololol 21:54 EvergreenTree My videos on youtube use it 21:54 EvergreenTree (sameless self advertisement) 21:54 EvergreenTree back on topic 21:54 EvergreenTree :P 21:54 sfan5 comcast internet aup says you may not offer commercial services over their connection 21:55 sfan5 and this is exactly what they do by hosting ilovepetras.com on their comcast connection 21:55 sfan5 good night now 21:55 EvergreenTree good night 21:55 domtron I agreed with rubenwardy post but I can't seem to rate it or post a message myself. 21:56 domtron rubenwardy's post * 21:56 domtron good night 21:56 domtron ah the rate button worked that time. 21:56 CheapSeth good night 21:57 hoodedice *cough* https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/globeminner.com?utm_source=addon&utm_content=rw-viewsc#view 21:57 domtron should we rate trustworthiness down and child safety neutral? 21:57 hoodedice sfan5: I'm not even surprised 21:58 hoodedice Well, it IS child safe lol 21:58 rubenwardy "Minetest is free, and always will be." 21:58 rubenwardy ^ facebook 21:58 hoodedice Oh lol 21:58 hoodedice Didn't see that 21:58 hoodedice That actually came from FlightGear I think 22:00 hoodedice I wanted the ste devs to put up a similar statement LOOOONG back 22:00 EvergreenTree It's hard to believe that a father would actually buy that game for his kid 22:01 hoodedice My heart literally broke when I read the comments on Amazon 22:01 CheapSeth Wait, did people actually buy globeminner? 22:01 hoodedice Yes 22:01 EvergreenTree Yes 22:01 hoodedice They thought it was MC 22:01 EvergreenTree +10 people 22:01 hoodedice Fuck: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134301#p134301 22:01 hoodedice FUCK 22:01 hoodedice Andthen again, F*** 22:02 EvergreenTree the people who rate this 5 stars are idiots 22:02 arsdragonfly1 18:03:13: ERROR[ServerThread]: Got packet command: 50 for peer id 74 but client isn't active yet. Dropping packet 22:02 rubenwardy I commented on that amazon review 22:02 hoodedice Did anyone read what I posted? 22:02 hoodedice This is it - we need a LICENSE CHANGE! 22:03 arsdragonfly1 ^ keep getting this on my server .any clues ? 22:03 EvergreenTree good reply rubenwardy 22:04 EvergreenTree I can't believe that people are getting scammed from our work 22:04 EvergreenTree :( 22:06 EvergreenTree *sigh* 22:06 specing or send DMCAs! 22:06 specing *to comcast 22:06 EvergreenTree lol 22:06 hoodedice Hello, What about onpon4's message? 22:06 specing I heard the US is really bitchy about copyright being infringed 22:06 specing three strikes, remember? 22:08 Jordach well that was fucking enjoyable as all shit 22:08 EvergreenTree Jordach: look at the logs for while you were gone 22:08 Jordach 5* for South Park: Stick of Truth 22:08 hoodedice Jordach YOU MISSED A LOT 22:08 Jordach hoodedice, tl;dr not giving a fuck 22:08 EvergreenTree Read the chat logs for today Jordach 22:08 Jordach bedtimes 22:09 hoodedice JORDACH! 22:09 hoodedice dammit 22:09 hoodedice lol 22:09 EvergreenTree NOOOO 22:09 hoodedice We'll send a DMCAs to Amazon and Ebay 22:09 hoodedice And a notice to comcast 22:09 hoodedice =D 22:09 hoodedice rubenwardy: 22:09 hoodedice You're good at throwing together a letter 22:09 rubenwardy Yay! 22:10 hoodedice Put it on Google Docs - First the comcast letter 22:10 hoodedice Let's do it people 22:10 EvergreenTree gogogo 22:10 EvergreenTree also, this gives me an idea 22:10 EvergreenTree it would be interesting to actually make a subgame for minetest which turns it into an actual game 22:10 EvergreenTree not an engine 22:11 rubenwardy https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mEPPTy7xro28VzQQx3rz9N-UajgnU6yruPxbScAMR7k/edit?usp=sharing 22:11 PenguinDad how would you do that? 22:11 CheapSeth The main probles is that it's difficult to make complete games out of a minecnaft-friendly voxel engine 22:11 CheapSeth *problem 22:13 EvergreenTree it being popular could be a problem though 22:14 CheapSeth Not so easy. We need friends from Youtube, an active community everywhere in the world (for example in France there is no serious community website) 22:14 CheapSeth … 22:14 domtron of course most people will probably look at us and say... are't they infringing on minecraft. And walk away with general disgust :( 22:16 CheapSeth (If minetest is infringing on minecraft, minecraft is infringing on Infiniminer and Dwarf Fortress… 22:16 CheapSeth ) 22:18 arsdragonfly1 Imho onpon4 may be right. Back to the old days when RMS sold tape copies of Emacs to make a living 22:18 arsdragonfly1 Btw why does my server keep dropping packets? 22:19 EvergreenTree yes, onpon4 is right about that 22:21 EvergreenTree john_minetest: of course 22:22 EvergreenTree I know that 22:22 rubenwardy Just wondering, what is the point of the letter? 22:22 EvergreenTree oh 22:23 rubenwardy I thought that too. It seems they are writing about ecommerce on a hosting service that does not like ecommerce 22:25 rubenwardy https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mEPPTy7xro28VzQQx3rz9N-UajgnU6yruPxbScAMR7k/edit?usp=sharing 22:25 rubenwardy oh 22:25 rubenwardy https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wSp6Mfk0b3Rbyn7fMTsdBV_Qjh_CPQ1rm2eGB94CFAk/edit?usp=sharing 22:26 domtron bye, all hope you get something sorted out. 22:27 CheapSeth Are the lua files of mods downloaded by the client? 22:27 CheapSeth (I''m trying to connect to globeminner with the minetest client) 22:28 rubenwardy no 22:28 PenguinDad The client does not download any Lua files 22:28 CheapSeth \o/ 22:29 CheapSeth (I know it's a stupid question, but in doubt… ^^) 22:31 arsdragonfly1 http://paste.ubuntu.com/7138208/ 22:31 arsdragonfly1 ^need help 22:32 CheapSeth Ok, the server's spawn is full of "Be awesome, use minetest" signs :D 22:32 PenguinDad which port? 22:33 hoodedice 30004, I guess 22:33 CheapSeth 30000 22:33 arsdragonfly1 Port is 16000 22:34 arsdragonfly1 I mean ,mine 22:35 NakedFury griefers usually are players without creative ability 22:35 CheapSeth Someone didn't understood it 22:35 NakedFury when they see a creative player they have strong compulsion to destroy and damage what they do 22:40 CheapSeth john_minetest: Likely not, but keep in mind that they make money with FOSS 22:41 CheapSeth Yes 22:41 CheapSeth But it's not ethical to sell the other's work 22:41 CheapSeth Even if he is allowed 22:42 CheapSeth It's unethical 22:42 hoodedice LGPL 2.1 22:42 hoodedice You have to release source code. Period 22:42 hoodedice Yes 22:42 EvergreenTree yes 22:42 hoodedice Good Morning 22:42 * hoodedice gives coffee to john_minetest 22:43 PenguinDad Freeminer is GPL 22:43 EvergreenTree be back sometime later 22:43 hoodedice cya 22:44 rubenwardy bye 22:46 hoodedice bah 22:46 hoodedice Bookmarking for work later 22:47 hoodedice !tell sfan5 Can you read throught this jargon and tell mewhere does comcast explicitly state that ecommerce is not allowed on a home network? http://www.comcast.com/policies 22:47 MinetestBot hoodedice: I'll pass that on when sfan5 is around 22:47 hoodedice <3 MinetestBot 22:47 MinetestBot <3 hoodedice 22:49 hoodedice !tell sfan5 Nevermind, I found it 22:49 MinetestBot hoodedice: I'll pass that on when sfan5 is around 22:59 rubenwardy ViHart is awesome 22:59 rubenwardy anywars, I gtg 22:59 rubenwardy *ways 23:08 EvergreenTree back 23:09 EvergreenTree did I miss anything 23:10 PenguinDad You didn't miss much 23:10 EvergreenTree mkay 23:11 EvergreenTree hm, interesing 23:11 EvergreenTree https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134306#p134306