IRC log for #minetest, 2014-03-23

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00:05	luizrpgluiz	hi
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00:27	EvergreenTree	I have an idea with the globeminner thing
00:27	EvergreenTree	they used textures from dokucraft
00:27	EvergreenTree	we could get the creator of dokucraft involved?
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00:42	domtron	hello
00:42	kaeza	hi
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00:46	hoodedice	#notrelatedtoinfringements: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134318#p134318
00:47	hoodedice	Hi kaeza
00:47	kaeza	sup
00:48	hoodedice	"The solution to people not reading the manual is writing a manual? seems legit." - PilzAdam
00:48	PilzAdam	hoodedice, thx, I already forgot that I posted that 1 minute ago
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00:49	hoodedice	PA, I have a habit of reposting epic things I see onto the IRC
00:51	kaeza	all Minetest needs is an explanation of key bindings and how to craft stuff (not necessarily actual recipes)
00:52	kaeza	the rest should be left to player experimentation
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00:56	hoodedice	That's what I'm aiming at
00:57	hoodedice	Wiki is the spoiler =P
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01:05	domtron	is there a way to run a block of code just before the registration period ends?
01:05	kaeza	dom...
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01:07	kaeza	domtron: what for?
01:09	domtron	I need to loop through all registered items. I looked at one crafting guide mod but they did it after the registration period. I can do this to if the other way isn't possible.
01:11	kaeza	well, the only way to do that is to somehow make the game load your mod after every other mod. you have two options: name your mod zzz_something, or depend on every other mod
01:12	kaeza	(or do it after load time as you said)
01:12	domtron	I thought about the second one. can you use * in depends :P
01:12	kaeza	...
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01:13	domtron	sorry
01:13	domtron	I thought about the second one. can you use * in depends :P
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01:14	kaeza	nope
01:14	domtron	sorry my net is being unstable...
01:14	domtron	ok thanks
01:15	kaeza	np
01:16	domtron	zxplotion, doesn't describe my mod but it sounds... stupid :P
01:17	kaeza	another option would be to do your stuff just before the game starts (via minetest.after(0, ...))
01:18	kaeza	technically, the game already started at that point, but whatever :P
01:19	domtron	ok, I'll do that If I cant find a z word that I like :P http://www.scrabblefinder.com/starts-with/z/
01:20	domtron	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zymotic_disease
01:21	domtron	my battery is going to die so if I disappear it will be permanent(for tonight anyway)
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01:25	PilzAdam	domtron, the typical solution for your problem is to use minetest.after(0)
01:26	domtron	Zyzzyva /ËˆzÉªzÉ¨vÉ™/ is a genus of tropical American weevil :P
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02:52	Eater4	!hi
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03:15	ShadowNinja	~up globeminner.com 30000-30014
03:15	ShadowBot	ShadowNinja: globeminner.com port 30013 is up (268ms) \| port 30010 is up (293ms) \| port 30001 is up (306ms) \| port 30007 is up (300ms) \| port 30002 is up (415ms) \| port 30011 is up (400ms) \| port 30012 is up (400ms) \| port 30004 is up (415ms) \| port 30008 is up (411ms) \| port 30006 is up (413ms) \| port 30009 is up (411ms) \| port 30003 is up (417ms) \| port 30000 is up (424ms) \| port 30014 is up (1 more message)
03:15	ShadowNinja	sfan5: ^ No flooding and fast response.
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04:11	paramat	Mandelbox mapgen plus paragenv7 mod biomes, sideview map using spillz' python/numpy minetest mapper http://i.imgur.com/dlcAv5y.png
04:11	Eater4	Hey whats up with the net split? Is it getting fixed
04:14	Eater4	~hi
04:14	Eater4	!seen Microchip
04:14	MinetestBot	Eater4: microchip was last seen at 2014-02-19 03:49:40 UTC on #minetest
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04:24	MinetestBot	ShadowBot: 03-22 20:24 UTC <w_laenger> it's really quiet
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04:25	ShadowNinja	sfan5: That should be a notice.
04:26	nate__	Shadow when is Shadowbot coming back
04:27	ShadowNinja	Eater4: ShadowBot is back.
04:27	Eater4	On isis.inchra.net #minetest
04:27	ShadowNinja	Eater4: She won't be on InchraNet until tomorow though. Her server is having network changes done.
04:28	Eater4	Ok thanks :-)
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05:13	Eater4	~language
05:13	ShadowBot	This is a family-friendly network, which means we expect our players to maintain family-friendly language. That means, more specifically, no foul language. It's one thing if you say wtf or @#$% or some other way of blurring-out your words, but that's as far as you should go. If you wouldn't have your 4 year old saying it, don't say it yourself, either.
05:33	enchilado	I wouldn't let my four-year-old on the internet
05:35	VanessaE	well the idea isn't to keep your 4 year old away from the source, the idea is to keep the source from propagating closer to your 4 year old, so to speak.
05:36	enchilado	I was fairly sure freenode policy said you had to be 12 to use the network, but last I tried to find that I couldn't
05:36	enchilado	Maybe I imagined it or they removed it
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05:42	VanessaE	well,
05:42	VanessaE	that command actually isn't for freenode
05:43	VanessaE	it's meant for our minetest servers over on inchra
05:43	VanessaE	but for some reason the bot decided not to connect over there
05:43	VanessaE	Eater4 was just quoting it for copy&paste
05:44	Eater4	Yea
05:44	ShadowNinja	VanessaE: ShadowBot's server is having it's networking reconfigured. Should be back tomorow.
05:44	VanessaE	oh ok
05:44	ShadowNinja	Also: https://github.com/ShadowNinja/LuaBot
05:45	Eater4	!policy
05:45	ShadowNinja	VanessaE: Her server will get one of 6K static IPs with a 5gbps link in early april.
05:46	ShadowNinja	Eater4: What's that supposed to return?
05:46	Eater4	Yea
05:47	Eater4	Shouldn't the policy be accessible with the bot ?
05:48	VanessaE	nnice
05:50	Eater4	And that bot connects to ?
05:50	Eater4	Oh sorry :)
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05:57	Eater4	Vanessa
05:59	VanessaE	hm?
05:59	Eater4	Explain why u don't have "mobs" on your sever to josie and cupcake on #minetest inchra
06:04	Eater4	?
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06:25	snesker	Anyone know off-hand how to properly use the reactor in the technic mod?
06:27	snesker	oh
06:27	snesker	found a thing
06:27	snesker	hmm
06:28	ShadowNinja	snesker: https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/master/technic/machines/HV/nuclear_reactor.lua#L106-120
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06:38	snesker	I'm gonna build one and see how it blows up :3
06:46	ShadowNinja	snesker: Don't bother, it doesn't.
06:47	ShadowNinja	snesker: That's hard to do in a way that isn't trigger happy or too destructive.
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06:48	snesker	it doesn't explode?
06:48	ShadowNinja	snesker: Yes, it doesn't.
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07:09	snesker	shame it won't blow after all the work I put into it http://i.imgur.com/WzoMFTo.png http://i.imgur.com/Sn95XEy.png http://i.imgur.com/46RPJMD.png
07:09	snesker	though I guess there's no hydrogen anymore
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07:33	sfan5	ShadowNinja: I do not see how notices are better
07:33	MinetestBot	sfan5: 03-22 22:47 UTC <hoodedice> Can you read throught this jargon and tell mewhere does comcast explicitly state that ecommerce is not allowed on a home network? http://www.comcast.com/policies
07:34	sfan5	meow
07:34	MinetestBot	sfan5: 03-22 22:49 UTC <hoodedice> Nevermind, I found it
07:34	sfan5	hi everone
07:34	sfan5	everyone*
07:34	ShadowNinja	~g RFC1459 NOTICE
07:34	ShadowBot	ShadowNinja: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1459.html \| RFC 1459 Internet Relay Chat Protocol May 1993 3.3.1 Client to Client . ..... Specially notice that TABULATION, and all other control characters are consideredÂ ...
07:34	ShadowNinja	sfan5: See NOTICE section there.
07:35	ShadowNinja	sfan5: It's to prevent bot loops.
07:35	sfan5	ShadowBot ignores MinetestBot already
07:36	ShadowNinja	sfan5: http://echelog.com/logs/browse/supybot/1259017200
07:36	ShadowNinja	sfan5: Doesn't stop another bot from starting a loop.
07:36	sfan5	we're not supposed to have more than 2 bots
07:36	ShadowNinja	Rule proposal: Bots must be approved.
07:37	ShadowNinja	sfan5: We have at least 4.
07:37	sfan5	in this channel?
07:37	ShadowNinja	(ChanServ, ShadowBot, MinetestBot, loggingbot_)
07:37	sfan5	:-\|
07:38	sfan5	I meant bots everyone can use
07:38	ShadowNinja	Well, three then.
07:38	sfan5	oh?
07:38	sfan5	how do I get ChanServ to write something in this channel then?
07:38	ShadowNinja	(At least. There may be more that are staying quiet)
07:38	ShadowNinja	sfan5: Set VERBOSE on.
07:39	sfan5	that won't start a bot loop IIRC
07:39	ShadowNinja	sfan5: Nope, because ChanServ uses NOTICEs.
07:40	ShadowNinja	Sending NOTICEs will stop loops with any current or future bots in this or other channels.
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07:52	snesker	I think I might try to build a kingdom underneath barriers with water flowing over them
07:52	snesker	that would look so rad
07:54	snesker	doesn't that look rad? http://i.imgur.com/wpR8yS4.png
08:14	reactor	snesker: that looks cool
08:14	snesker	reactor: http://i.imgur.com/QKor24c.png
08:14	reactor	But all the water... how do you not drown while working there?
08:15	reactor	Also, what does that tree of blue things do?
08:15	snesker	flying and being invincible helps, regarding drowning
08:15	snesker	the blocks generate the flecky barrier thing that repels the water above it, causing it to flow down on top of it and look totally rad
08:15	reactor	...how would usual players survive?
08:15	reactor	Ah.
08:16	reactor	And they can be turned off?
08:16	snesker	if I disconnect the yellow cable
08:18	reactor	What is that mod?
08:18	snesker	It's powered by a nuclear reactor that never seems to use fuel, and has been running dry for days since I destroyed the housing and removed the water
08:18	reactor	And still working? Must be a bug.
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08:19	reactor	Speaking of reactors.
08:19	reactor	I made Pripyat.
08:20	reactor	Unfortunately, no screenshots at hand.
08:20	snesker	simulate a hydrogen explosion by manually moving the blocks frame-by-frame
08:21	reactor	Heh.
08:21	snesker	I used to do that with alien invasions
08:21	reactor	So you're developing the mod?
08:22	snesker	no, I barely know how to install it
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08:28	reactor	Oh.
08:28	snesker	Are you a nuclear power enthusiast?
08:31	MinetestBot	GIT: jeijamesecons.net commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix bug that made delayers oscillate their input port 1f66687580 2014-03-23T09:28:22+01:00 http://git.io/jLn8JQ
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08:40	reactor	snesker: no.
08:40	reactor	Well, I sometimes read about it. That's it.
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08:41	reactor	I chose the nick randomly.
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11:39	PenguinDad	we missed you :P
11:43	arsdragonfly	*chop chop
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12:10	sydney	How do I enable monsters in minetest 4.9?
12:10	reactor	There's a mod.
12:10	reactor	...I'm still not sure how expensive it is. I would like to enable it on my server.
12:11	sydney	Well I thought this game was suposed to be very similar to minecraft.
12:11	reactor	Not necessarily.
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12:12	PilzAdam	Hello everyone!
12:12	reactor	Ehlo!
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12:13	sydney	I see that,but I like it anyways. So minetest 4.9 doesn't have any monsters by defualt?
12:13	reactor	yep
12:13	PenguinDad	4.9 might have them but 0.4.9 doesn't have monsters
12:13	CheapSeth	sydney: I think they will be added in minetest_game later
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12:14	sydney	Ok, thanks!!
12:14	reactor	...anyone running a server with mobs?
12:14	CheapSeth	I can try in a second if you tell me what mod it is
12:15	CheapSeth	The mob framework's default mobs?
12:19	CheapSeth	reactor: cheapseth.net if you want to try
12:20	CheapSeth	Ok, it does not work.
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12:21	CheapSeth	It spams me with "ERROR: draw_hotbar()"
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12:21	sydney	What is the name of the monster mod?
12:22	CheapSeth	Oh wait, it works
12:22	CheapSeth	I tried with creatures
12:22	CheapSeth	sydney: https://github.com/BlockMen/creatures.git (I actually only tried this one)
12:22	sydney	ok,thanks!
12:23	reactor	CheapSeth: I'll check it out when I have time. Is it in the public list?
12:25	PenguinDad	NOOOOOOOOO!!1!
12:25	CheapSeth	reactor: when it's on (It does not automatically start with my server currently, I use it as a "testing" server)
12:25	reactor	k
12:25	reactor	hmm
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12:28	markveidemanis	Hi
12:31	markveidemanis	How's the GlobeMinner situation?
12:31	markveidemanis	~up globeminner.com
12:31	ShadowBot	markveidemanis: globeminner.com port 30000 is down
12:31	markveidemanis	~up globeminner.com 30000-30019
12:31	ShadowBot	markveidemanis: Error: Too many Ports specified
12:32	PenguinDad	~up globeminner.com 30001-30006
12:32	ShadowBot	PenguinDad: globeminner.com port 30003 is up (945ms) \| port 30001 is up (953ms) \| port 30005 is up (943ms) \| port 30004 is up (992ms) \| port 30006 is up (991ms) \| port 30002 is down
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12:35	markveidemanis	Seems like the servers were repaired
12:35	specing	should fix that
12:39	CheapSeth	Ok, creatures is not stable yet http://www.pasteall.org/50424
12:40	reactor	What problems does it have?
12:40	reactor	markveidemanis: I still don't get it. Do these people provide an (outdated) build under a custom name?
12:41	CheapSeth	It crashes, mobs are oddly rendered and the whole thing is laggy
12:42	CheapSeth	I'll try it later
12:42	sfan5	reactor: outdated build, custom name, no attribution, infringe 5 copyrights with a single image on their homepage (http://www.globeminner.com/images/globeminnerppl2.jpg)
12:43	reactor	ÑÐ²Ð¾Ð½Ð° ÐºÐ°Ðº!
12:43	reactor	...I wonder, what should be done in that case.
12:43	reactor	By the way. Did you know you can DoS a site using Google Spreadsheet?
12:43	sfan5	sue their ass(es)
12:44	reactor	You can drive Google into fetching the same file all over again, until they run out of monthly bandwidth limit.
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12:54	markveidemanis	Let's DDoS their asses
12:55	markveidemanis	or DoS in fact
12:55	reactor	...if you're interested, I can post you a link, but it's in Russian
12:56	reactor	And it's old, so might not be working anymore.
12:57	markveidemanis	I'm fine with Russian (If you're speaking to me)
12:58	reactor	Idk. Anyway, here's the link: http://habrahabr.ru/post/215233/
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13:00	Leoneof	why i'm here?
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13:07	sydney	Do I have to enable a mod. after I install it?
13:07	CheapSeth	Yes
13:07	sydney	How?
13:07	CheapSeth	For the client, it's in the map menu
13:08	CheapSeth	(Select your map then click "configure"
13:08	CheapSeth	)
13:08	sydney	oh, I see it ,Thanks alot!! :)
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13:16	hoodedice	I'm still having a problem with onpon4's usage of the term 'third parties'
13:16	hoodedice	Look at LGPL 2.1 section 10 https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.1.html
13:17	hoodedice	I think we should also have #minetest-legal (lol)
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13:22	markveidemanis	Okay DoS script done
13:22	markveidemanis	Now let's turn it into DDoS
13:22	hoodedice	markveidemanis: Stop
13:22	markveidemanis	http://pastie.org/8961156
13:22	hoodedice	No more hacking or greifing or whatever
13:22	hoodedice	We're going legal on this.
13:22	markveidemanis	so we gonna sue them?
13:23	hoodedice	We're gonna send letters to comcast, amazon and ebay
13:23	hoodedice	They're violating, as sfan5 said, comcast AUP for e-commerce from a home network
13:24	hoodedice	And then we'll send letters to amazon and ebay saying that they are a scam
13:24	hoodedice	Because we're having problems with the LGPL here
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13:25	hoodedice	Seems that he can sell the source
13:26	hoodedice	Can someone please check LGPL 2.1 section 10 https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.1.html and tell if third parties refer to everyone or just anyone who gets a copy of the program from you?
13:27	* hoodedice	yawns
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13:29	CheapSeth	I think "third parties" refer to everyone that did not contribute directly to the project
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13:32	markveidemanis	Could anyone give me a CentOS build?
13:33	PenguinDad	!g define third party
13:33	PenguinDad	~g define third party
13:33	ShadowBot	PenguinDad: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/third+party \| A political party organized as opposition to the existing parties in a two-party system. 2. One other than the principals involved in a transaction: I pay rent to aÂ ...
13:33	reactor	markveidemanis: what does that script do?
13:33	reactor	that's not how you were supposed to DoS it.
13:34	reactor	Why not use Google's hole?
13:34	markveidemanis	idk how
13:34	reactor	I've given you the link?
13:35	reactor	Attempting to DoS a server from a home line is futile.
13:35	reactor	even DDoSing from several home lines wouldn't work well.
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13:36	reactor	And Google can draw their monthly limit in hours!
13:38	markveidemanis	meh
13:38	hoodedice	PenguinDad: nice try
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13:38	markveidemanis	I need a CentOS build. Who has a CentOS build?
13:39	hoodedice	No one - compile it!
13:39	hoodedice	later peeps
13:39	markveidemanis	The thing is: I dont have root
13:39	markveidemanis	To install depends or even cmake
13:39	markveidemanis	I need one that has been compiled already.
13:40	markveidemanis	The shared hosting is very powerful and I can execute files, to get root I have to pay sooo much more
13:40	markveidemanis	How about: Person who gives me the build that works can have a server running just for them on my server
13:40	PenguinDad	~tell hoodedice This one might be better http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Third+Party
13:40	ShadowBot	PenguinDad: O.K.
13:41	markveidemanis	!tell MinetestBot hi
13:41	markveidemanis	~tell ShadowBot hi
13:41	ShadowBot	markveidemanis: Error: I can't send notes to myself.
13:41	markveidemanis	!tell ShadowBot hi
13:41	markveidemanis	~tell MinetestBot hi
13:41	ShadowBot	markveidemanis: O.K.
13:41	markveidemanis	bots irritate me
13:42	Amaz	!tell hoodeice For the definition of 1st, 2nd and 3rd parties, I would say this: A first party is those who made the code, a second party is one who uses the program, and a third person is anyone.
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13:43	PenguinDad	Amaz: use ~tell since MinetestBot isn't here
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13:43	markveidemanis	oh..
13:43	Amaz	@ PenguinDad Thanks
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13:43	Amaz	~tell hoodeice For the definition of 1st, 2nd and 3rd parties, I would say this: A first party is those who made the code, a second party is one who uses the program, and a third person is anyone.
13:43	ShadowBot	Amaz: O.K.
13:44	PenguinDad	"MinetestBot (~MinetestB5.231.56.127) hat den IRC verlassen (.net .split)"
13:49	reactor	I've got an idea, markveidemanis.
13:49	reactor	Compile it on Linux, but linked statically.
13:50	reactor	Won't have to install depends.
13:51	markveidemanis	...
13:51	markveidemanis	I dont have access to make or cmak
13:51	markveidemanis	*e
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13:53	markveidemanis	The only thing I will do to the server is upload and chmod 777
13:58	reactor	Exactly. Build it locally.
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13:59	markveidemanis	I muck up VMs
13:59	markveidemanis	Tried and Tried
14:00	reactor	-_-
14:00	markveidemanis	Could you do it? You get a free server if it works
14:00	reactor	...I have a free server already :)
14:00	Amaz	If you give me an hour or so, I may be able to do something.
14:01	reactor	So, you require it's built under CentOS? Or any Linux?
14:01	crazyR	try compiling it on https://koding.com/kodeing you get a free development vm think it has ubuntu on it.
14:01	Amaz	Which centOS version are you using?
14:02	markveidemanis	CentOS 6.5
14:02	reactor	kodeing? Are they abusing codeine?
14:02	crazyR	https://koding.com/*
14:02	crazyR	reactor: what you mean
14:03	reactor	Nothing. The spelling reminds me of news about pharmaceuticals.
14:03	crazyR	lol
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14:21	markveidemanis	Amaz, any update?
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14:21	markveidemanis	btw, if you are about to compile, use "-DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DENABLE_CURL=0 -DBUILD_CLIENT=0"
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14:24	markveidemanis	Hi
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14:37	Eater4	ShadowNinja: how do u run your mod. The area one
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14:50	Eater4	All of the isis.inchra.net #minetest severs are not voiced........
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15:53	sfan5	!tell john_minetest http://i.imgur.com/uyfNETa.jpg
15:53	sfan5	oh
15:53	sfan5	...
15:53	sfan5	~tell john_minetest http://i.imgur.com/uyfNETa.jpg
15:53	ShadowBot	sfan5: O.K.
15:53	sfan5	<3 ShadowBot
15:53	ShadowBot	04â™¥ sfan5.
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15:58	markveidemanis	<3 ShadowBot
15:58	ShadowBot	04â™¥ markveidemanis.
15:58	markveidemanis	:)
16:02	Eater4	XD
16:02	GhostDoge	what's so funny Eater4?
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16:04	Eater4	I didn't know shadowbot can do that
16:04	Krock	Hi.
16:05	GhostDoge	MinetestBot can do that too but without colors and unicode
16:09	Eater4	To be honest I did not know shadow bot till yesterday
16:09	Eater4	Minetest bot sorry
16:10	GhostDoge	Eater4: She isn't here
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16:19	Krock	!up 62.203.236.100
16:19	Krock	Oh. Minetest bot missing
16:20	markveidemanis	~up 62.203.236.100
16:20	ShadowBot	markveidemanis: 62.203.236.100 port 30000 is up (221ms)
16:20	markveidemanis	Krock, ^
16:20	Krock	oh.. srtring.Replace(!,~)
16:21	Krock	~help
16:21	ShadowBot	Krock: help [<plugin>] [<command>]
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16:27	Eater4	U have our bot
16:27	Eater4	~minetest NOT minecraft
16:29	ShadowNinja	~config channel #minetest reply.whenAddressedBy.chars !~
16:29	ShadowBot	ShadowNinja: O.K.
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16:31	markveidemanis	!up google.com
16:31	ShadowBot	markveidemanis: google.com port 30000 is down
16:31	markveidemanis	<3 ShadowBot
16:31	ShadowBot	04â™¥ markveidemanis.
16:34	hoodedice	Sending letters to all one star raters on Amazon: http://pastebin.com/NT30jcjG
16:34	hoodedice	*emails
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16:35	hoodedice	!hi
16:35	ShadowBot	Hello hoodedice!
16:35	hoodedice	I see someone is eager to take MTBot's place, eh?
16:36	Eater4	No it is because of the net split....Minetest boy should be back sometime today
16:36	Eater4	Bot*
16:36	Eater4	~hi
16:36	ShadowBot	Hello Eater4!
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16:37	* NekoGloop	puts a kitten on ShadowBot's head
16:38	Eater4	And ra.inchra.net being down.
16:38	Krock	hmm irg.irchra.net is up for me
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16:38	Krock	*irc
16:38	NekoGloop	irg!
16:38	Krock	Typos ftw
16:39	* GhostDoge	licks NekoGloop
16:39	* NekoGloop	dispels GhostDoge
16:39	* EvergreenTree	gives a kitten to Krock
16:39	GhostDoge	woof woof
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16:40	* Krock	gives agressive dog to EvergreenTree
16:40	* EvergreenTree	sicks the agressive dog on GhostDoge
16:41	* GhostDoge	plays with the agressive dog
16:42	* markveidemanis	/me /me /me
16:43	CWz	the globeminner guy called the development team called us children
16:43	Krock	!title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe5Hd3eGMKw
16:43	ShadowBot	Krock: TOPPOP: Pilot - Its Magic - YouTube
16:43	Krock	:)
16:44	EvergreenTree	CWz: I saw that
16:48	CWz	I am starting to wonder if he really is the globeminner creator. because he is handling this situation very poorly
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16:49	hoodedice	lol\
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16:50	hoodedice	markveidemanis: wtf?
16:50	hoodedice	Delete your last post - it looks like herding
16:50	hoodedice	Seriously.
16:51	Amaz	Yes, do.
16:51	CWz	The key to resolve a bad situation is not to make it worst
16:52	hoodedice	Nobody posts on that thread.
16:52	hoodedice	We are working on it.
16:52	CWz	maybe it should be locked or removed
16:53	hoodedice	Let him rant - if we counter him hypothetically, he will find another way to counter our counter and just waste our time
16:53	hoodedice	No, CWz, let the thread be as is
16:53	hoodedice	And in the end, he will get more time to steal other people's hard earned (citation needed) money
16:54	hoodedice	markveidemanis: Thanks
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16:58	EvergreenTree	look at this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134409#p134409
16:59	CWz	the only good thing about that thread is that it did the impossible and got onpon4 and mauvebic to agree with eachother
16:59	hoodedice	EvergreenTree: We resolved that until the letters are sent, no one posts on that thread
16:59	EvergreenTree	okay
16:59	hoodedice	Cwz: lol man, lol
16:59	EvergreenTree	sorry about that
16:59	hoodedice	uh, no harm done, Evergreen
16:59	hoodedice	=)
17:01	* sfan5	gives markveidemanis a kitten
17:03	* markveidemanis	licks sfan5's kitten
17:03	sfan5	eeeewww
17:04	* sfan5	flips markveidemanis
17:04	CWz	Messed up
17:04	hoodedice	what?
17:04	markveidemanis	Theres a bad pun to be made here
17:04	hoodedice	CWz: sfan5 can post 0 t was an allegation against the core team
17:04	hoodedice	*that
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17:18	EvergreenTree	I like this guy's review of globeminner: http://www.amazon.com/review/R4BIOBDX4TILU/ref=cm_cr_dp_title?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00DBCGC9C&channel=detail-glance&nodeID=468642&store=videogames
17:19	CWz	I agree with that reviewer
17:20	EvergreenTree	Me too
17:20	EvergreenTree	I don't have an amazon account, so I can't respond
17:20	CWz	especially since it uses an outdated version
17:22	CWz	and no linux support
17:24	sfan5	CWz: look at this epic fail of copyright infringning https://cdn.mediacru.sh/CJXivV_6xJy3.png
17:26	hoodedice	That DOA guy has a high reviewer rating
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17:32	CWz	he replied: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=134417#p134417
17:32	CWz	It feels like the account is used by more then one of the globeminner team members
17:34	sfan5	>At the same time, any flaw in the fork globeminner will reflect poor on minetest.
17:35	sfan5	that sounds like blackmailing
17:35	MrBeNNy	Wow
17:35	MrBeNNy	Isn't that a kick in the !@#$&^
17:36	Amaz	If only he/she/they had used the Steampunk teaxture pack...
17:37	sfan5	oh yes
17:37	sfan5	that would've been nice :>
17:37	GhostDoge	CWz: it really feels like that
17:38	Amaz	Then they would have had Glimmar all over them.
17:38	hoodedice	^
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17:41	hoodedice	Eater4
17:41	Eater4	Yes ?
17:42	hoodedice	Do I know you?
17:42	Eater4	1 sec
17:42	hoodedice	which server was it?
17:42	GhostDoge	hoodedice: do you know Nate?
17:42	hoodedice	...?
17:42	hoodedice	I don't remember...
17:43	GhostDoge	Eater4 == Nate
17:44	Eater4	I play on VE Minetest
17:44	Calinou	sfan5, yay for mediacru.sh :D
17:44	* sfan5	high fives Calinou
17:44	Calinou	heh, looks like HDX was used on the low resolution textures
17:44	Calinou	(program to increase texture resolution rather smoothly)
17:44	Eater4	V-E Severs I am also building my own sever
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17:48	hoodedice	Did you play on a Globeminner server?
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17:53	CWz	I wonder what would happen if the thugs who made the illegal Iphone and androids ports come to the forum.
17:53	sfan5	CWz: they came to the forum
17:53	CWz	when?
17:54	sfan5	dunno
17:54	sfan5	maybe google
17:54	sfan5	..
17:54	sfan5	that probably wouldn't help
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18:09	GhostDoge	Jordach!
18:10	PilzAdam	I dont understand what the globeminner guy wants; in one post he says the minetest dev team is a bunch of kids; in the next post he says we have done excelent work
18:10	* hoodedice	thinks that Jordach is missing all the drama
18:10	Exio4	`hi
18:10	* Jordach	doesn't know what the fuck to do about it
18:11	hoodedice	[12:52] <hoodedice> Nobody posts on that thread. [12:52] <hoodedice> We are working on it. [12:52] <CWz> maybe it should be locked or removed [12:53] <hoodedice> Let him rant - if we counter him hypothetically, he will find another way to counter our counter and just waste our time [12:53] <hoodedice> No, CWz, let the thread be as is [12:53] <hoodedice> And in the end, he will get more time to steal other people's hard earned (
18:11	hoodedice	cough sorry for flood.
18:11	Jordach	wat flood
18:11	EvergreenTree	Hi Jordach
18:11	EvergreenTree	Lots of copyright drama recently
18:12	Jordach	luckily for me, I'm going away again: I've got Saints Row III PC waiting to go
18:13	GhostDoge	Jordach: Butt don't forget us
18:13	GhostDoge	*But
18:13	Eater4	Hello
18:13	Jordach	you don't realise how much that removed my burnout
18:14	Eater4	Well about the copyright----- when minetest 0.5 comes out there is supposed to be a real version of minetest for tablets
18:14	Jordach	Eater4, i doubt iut
18:15	Eater4	For android. When 0.5 comes out playstarz apps won't work with it.
18:16	Jordach	Eater4, that's a good thing and a bad thing
18:17	Eater4	Ik
18:17	Eater4	I know*
18:18	GhostDoge	BTW I started my Doge miner today
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18:35	Amaz	When did Minetest change it's license?
18:36	sfan5	2011 or 2012
18:36	sfan5	IIRC
18:36	Amaz	Okay.
18:37	VanessaE	late in 2012 I think.
18:39	hoodedice	covert op @ #uglykittehs
18:40	hoodedice	all operatives, rendez vouz at #uglykittehs
18:40	hoodedice	Programmers Next Door! BATTLESTATIONS!
18:45	CWz	although I am not a fan of Wasteland, I think a wasteland server would be a welcomed edition to the server list
18:45	hoodedice	Landmine had one - epic lag
18:46	Amaz	Not as bad as his capture the flag one...
18:50	CWz	for a server not to be lagy it needs to be hosted on a good reliably connection. the average user most likely won't have such a connection. even VanessaE's server aren't lag free(at least for me).
18:51	CheapSeth	There is also the option of allowing more packets to be send simultaneously in the config (if I understood correctly)
18:53	CWz	it seems that globeminer is giving credit now: http://www.globeminner.com/index.php/get-involved-make-globeminner-truly-yours
18:56	ShadowNinja	CWz: No, globemiNNer. ;-)
18:57	hoodedice	We won half the fight =)
18:57	EvergreenTree	yay
18:57	EvergreenTree	they gave creadit on their website
18:58	CWz	I think globeminer.com was taken
18:58	GhostDoge	but what about the mod authors and texture pack creators? :/
18:59	EvergreenTree	that is the other problem
18:59	EvergreenTree	that relies on getting the cd though
18:59	EvergreenTree	and being sure they did not give the source
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19:00	* Jordach	pokes VanessaE about making HDX CC-BY-NC
19:02	Jordach	globminner in a nutshell [18:37:26] <EvergreenTree> look at the amazon page of the person selling it: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aag/main?ie=UTF8&asin=&isAmazonFulfilled=&isCBA=&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&orderID=&seller=A2TSUB1EREP5TF
19:02	Jordach	[19:01:09] <Jordach> this guy gets it https://cdn.mediacru.sh//pSjhqWsPYSb4.png
19:02	EvergreenTree	hey Jordach, #uglykittehs
19:03	jalcine	Is there going to be a means of downloading textures from within Minetest in the future?
19:04	CWz	Like a Texturepack database?
19:04	us`0gb	HDX is NC? Aww. That's sad.
19:05	EvergreenTree	no it isn't
19:05	hoodedice	no
19:05	hoodedice	lol
19:05	us`0gb	So Jordach wants it to be?
19:05	PilzAdam	how can you give "2 out of 5" when you didnt recieve it yet?
19:05	Jordach	us`0gb, they keep including HDX in that shit they make which you have to pay for it
19:05	us`0gb	Commercialism isn't bad, Jordach. If they want to make money, let them.
19:07	us`0gb	People could sell Minetest as well. If they can find a market for it.
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19:51	hunterx689	wow
19:51	hunterx689	ShadowBot hi
19:51	ShadowBot	Hello hunterx689!
19:51	hunterx689	hi?
19:52	hoodedice	bye.
19:52	hoodedice	=P
19:52	hunterx689	bye
19:52	hunterx689	wow
19:53	hunterx689	ther are minetest famous here
19:53	hunterx689	stfan5
19:53	markveidemanis	...
19:53	markveidemanis	......
19:53	PenguinDad	*stefan :P
19:53	hunterx689	hunterz?
19:54	hunterx689	hi penguindad
19:54	markveidemanis	hi hunterx689
19:54	hunterx689	im confussed
19:54	hunterx689	why ther are a lot of minetest members here?
19:54	hunterx689	like sfan5
19:55	sfan5	?
19:55	hunterx689	realbadangel
19:55	hunterx689	and no on the horus.inchra
19:55	PenguinDad	maybe because this is the official channel
19:55	hunterx689	im confussed
19:55	hunterx689	hmmmmmmmm
19:55	hunterx689	woah
19:55	hunterx689	sorry idk
19:55	markveidemanis	stfu
19:56	hunterx689	im a lost boy here
19:56	sfan5	markveidemanis: don' be rude
19:56	markveidemanis	We have no need for repetitive orgasmic sounds
19:56	* PenguinDad	waddles in circles
19:56	* markveidemanis	hides inside a cat
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19:57	hunterx689	woah
19:57	hunterx689	PilzAdam? here?
19:57	hunterx689	wow
19:57	* PenguinDad	is about to kill his cpuminer
19:58	hunterx689	hi sfan5
19:58	sfan5	hi hunterx689
19:58	hunterx689	this is so strange because for me horus.inchra was the official net
19:59	markveidemanis	...
19:59	markveidemanis	. . . _ _ _ . . .
19:59	hunterx689	wow
19:59	VanessaE	officially it's irc.inchra.net but if you wanna make sure you stay online, go to horus or isis.
20:00	VanessaE	ra and anubis tend to crash.
20:00	hunterx689	vanessa im at isis
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20:01	hoodedice	hunterx689: This is the official #minetest on freenode IRC
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20:01	hunterx689	ok
20:02	hoodedice	You WILL find well-known members here
20:02	hoodedice	Like me, for example.
20:02	hunterx689	im so happy to be here
20:02	hoodedice	inb4 hunter says he doesn't know me
20:02	hunterx689	hoodedice?
20:02	hoodedice	(lol) I was right
20:02	hoodedice	hunter: http://forum.minetest.net
20:02	hoodedice	Enjoy and don't spam.
20:02	hunterx689	hehe
20:02	markveidemanis	...
20:02	hunterx689	oki
20:02	hunterx689	im not new
20:03	* markveidemanis	likes elipsis
20:03	hunterx689	im well-know in inchra net
20:03	hoodedice	You should know me
20:04	hoodedice	I pulled off the infamous minetest is being sold prank on inchra
20:04	hunterx689	i dont know you
20:04	hoodedice	jerky Jordach deleted the forum thread
20:04	Jordach	n0pe
20:04	Jordach	iirc
20:04	hoodedice	Then who deleted?
20:04	hunterx689	idk
20:06	hoodedice	it went like this
20:06	hoodedice	bah, won't work here
20:07	hunterx689	hehe
20:07	hunterx689	you are celeron?
20:07	notceleron55	Hello everyone. I'm selling Minetest to Mojang
20:07	hunterx689	nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
20:07	notceleron55	It will be now known as Minecraft II
20:07	Jordach	already on it
20:07	hunterx689	no no to mojang
20:07	hoodedice	lol no Jordy
20:07	hoodedice	coolio
20:07		hoodedice was kicked by Jordach: troll elsewhere
20:08	hunterx689	to playstarz okno
20:08	Eater4	Lie XD
20:08	hunterx689	eater
20:08	hunterx689	hi
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20:08	markveidemanis	Hey does anyone have a CentOS 6.5 build?
20:08	CheapSeth	Selling minetest to Mojang: Hi, did you want a better version of your game?
20:09	hoodedice	And that's exactly what happend on inchra
20:09	hoodedice	Except my nick was 'Celeron55'
20:09	markveidemanis	What are the prerequesites for compilation on fedora?
20:09	hoodedice	It was amazing - people actually beleved it
20:09	hunterx689	hoode you are celeron?
20:09	hoodedice	no lol
20:09	hunterx689	lol
20:10	hunterx689	who is celeron here?
20:10	hunterx689	or he isnt here?
20:10	CheapSeth	markveidemanis: The usual dependencies + the developpement tools metapacket I think
20:10	markveidemanis	Just for bare minetestserver
20:10	markveidemanis	no curl
20:10	hoodedice	He hasn't been on lately
20:10	hoodedice	bbl
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20:14	Eater4	Is ra.inchra.net going to be up today?
20:15	verm	hello all, I am new to minecraft and minetest. I have minetest 0.4.6 installed from the debian repos. Thus far I cant find any descriptions of the play modes or mobs. can someone point me to a web page or something? Thanks
20:16	sfan5	verm: htp://wiki.minetest.net
20:16	Eater4	Go to www.minetest.net
20:16	sfan5	verm: it is also highly recommended to update to 0.4.9
20:16	sfan5	-ed
20:16	verm	I looked in both places and did not find the modes described.
20:17	sfan5	that is because 0.4.6 is more than 1 year old
20:17	sfan5	update to 0.4.9
20:17	hunterx689	verm
20:17	hunterx689	in what operative system you are?
20:18	hunterx689	windows or linux?
20:18	verm	Hunter, I am using Linux Mint Debian edition, so 0.4.6 is what is currently in the debian testing repos.
20:18	hunterx689	ok
20:18	hunterx689	use the sudo for update the game
20:19	hunterx689	in theory windows is easier
20:19	verm	ok, will see about updating. Thanks all
20:20	sfan5	verm: try this https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=53120#p53120
20:20	hunterx689	sfan5 is the first time i see you in irc
20:21	verm	thanks
20:24	troller	maybe make 200k users on every globalminer server?
20:24	troller	one line patch + small script
20:24	hunterx689	who has played minetest?
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20:27	SylvieLorxu	sfan5: Shouldn't you recommend the repository instead so verm will keep receiving updates automatically?
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20:32	verm	seems the LMDE repos are behind, debian has 0.4.9, but LMDE only has 0.4.6
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20:34	hunterx689	afk
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20:52	hunterx689	back
20:54	PilzAdam	a wild PilzAdam gallops into the channel, looks arround, and gallops away again
20:59	* markveidemanis	throws a rhino at PilzAdam
21:03	* Jordach	missed an old piece of software
21:11	markveidemanis	What do I need to build with LevelDB on Fedora (CentOS)?
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21:19	sfan5	markveidemanis: libleveldb development headers
21:20	markveidemanis	ok, thanks
21:20	hunterx689	how i can save shadowbot?
21:21	Jordach	hunterx689, the server ShadowBot is connected to has netsplit
21:21	Jordach	it can't do anything until that server rejoins up with isis.inchra.net and the others
21:22	hunterx689	in that chase jordach how i can help?
21:22	Jordach	hunterx689, just sit there and do nothing
21:22	Jordach	it'll come back on it's own
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21:50	EvergreenTree	what is the port for horus.inchra.net?
21:51	hunterx689	6667
21:51	EvergreenTree	thank you
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22:04	fireglow	how can I destroy a sponge:sponge block?
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22:21	harrison	are you spongeworthy?
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22:51	hunterx689	shadowbot
22:51	hunterx689	we will spam
23:08	hunterx689	wtf
23:08	hunterx689	all are leaving O_o
23:10	hunterx689	oops wrong server
23:13	hunterx689	hi
23:13	hunterx689	eater
23:13	Eater4	Hey
23:13	Eater4	!hi
23:13	ShadowBot	Hello Eater4!
23:13	Eater4	~hi
23:13	ShadowBot	Hello Eater4!
23:13	hunterx689	Â¡hi
23:13	fireglow	wtf
23:13	hunterx689	~hi
23:14	ShadowBot	Hello hunterx689!
23:14	hunterx689	~hi stormchaser3000
23:14	ShadowBot	Hello hunterx689!
23:14	hunterx689	~stormchaser30000
23:14	Eater4	!let hunter know that I said hi
23:14	hunterx689	~seen celeron55
23:14	ShadowBot	hunterx689: I saw celeron55 in #minetest 3 weeks, 3 days, 5 hours, 14 minutes, and 23 seconds ago saying "i also was in your room last week but you didn't notice!".
23:14	hunterx689	afk
23:14	Eater4	~c55
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23:15	Eater4	!seen fluffypillows93
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23:19	Eater4	Seen ~c55
23:19	Eater4	!seen c55
23:19	ShadowBot	Eater4: I haven't seen c55 in #minetest.
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23:53	* ChubbaBubba	slaps Eater4 around a bit with a large trout
23:54	Eater4	Hi XD this isn't our minetest so....
23:54	ChubbaBubba	What is this thing xD
23:56	Eater4	Development channel
23:56	Eater4	~hi
23:56	ShadowBot	Hello Eater4!
23:57	ChubbaBubba	Awwe shadowbot is back xD
23:57	ChubbaBubba	~hi
23:57	ShadowBot	Hello ChubbaBubba!
23:57	hunterx689	~hi
23:57	ShadowBot	Hello hunterx689!
23:57	ChubbaBubba	awwwe
23:57	hunterx689	~seen Kaeza
23:57	ShadowBot	hunterx689: I saw Kaeza in #minetest 22 hours, 39 minutes, and 24 seconds ago saying "technically, the game already started at that point, but whatever :P".
23:57	ChubbaBubba	XD
23:57	PilzAdam	I think we should stop abusing the bots now
23:57	hunterx689	~seen PilzAdam
23:57	ShadowBot	hunterx689: I saw PilzAdam in #minetest 14 seconds ago saying "I think we should stop abusing the bots now".
23:58	hunterx689	XD
23:58	ChubbaBubba	I was just saying Hi , sorry
23:58	hunterx689	lets spam another channels
23:58	ChubbaBubba	XD
23:59	ChubbaBubba	One more thing
23:59	ChubbaBubba	~seen Microchip
23:59	ShadowBot	ChubbaBubba: I saw Microchip in #minetest 7 weeks, 3 days, 2 hours, 42 minutes, and 46 seconds ago saying "Does anybody know how to change the distance that player names are visible at on a server?".
23:59	ChubbaBubba	Ok that is good :)

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