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PilzAdam |
bye |
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ShadowNinja |
sfan5_: ShadowBot has recorded 690 distinct nicks, counting only those that send a message. How many has MTBot recorded? |
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ShadowNinja |
(Counting those with the same nick on different networks as the same) |
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JesseH2 |
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fireglow |
is there a mod that'll disable the wearing down of tools? |
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eraldev |
Hi |
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fireglow |
hi |
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ShadowNinja |
fireglow: You could make one, or use infinitytools, or just use creative. |
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Gatharoth |
Ello all |
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hoodedice |
What is the syntax for 'if, then, else...' in lua? |
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hoodedice |
I'm using lua to write simple pseudo-code for another language |
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hoodedice |
I need the contraction thingy in Notepad++ to work properly, but it just contracts all of the nested if statements |
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hoodedice |
I just need to be able to seperate nested schist from the parent schist |
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JesseH |
ShadowNinja, Sup |
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hoodedice |
Hello. |
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hoodedice |
Oh, not me? |
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hoodedice |
Oh, ok... |
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* hoodedice |
ducks |
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hoodedice |
I think I'll write a tutorial for modding in minetest from a non-programmer perspective |
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ShadowNinja |
Hey, JesseH! |
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ShadowNinja |
hoodedice: The syntax is "if <condition> then <commands> elseif <condition2> then <commands2> else <commands3> end" |
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hoodedice |
Thanks ShadowNinja |
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JesseH |
ShadowNinja, you gotta server up? |
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ShadowNinja |
YW. |
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ShadowNinja |
JesseH: Yep. |
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JesseH |
Wanna play? ;D |
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ShadowNinja |
JesseH: Not now. Perhaps on a different day. |
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JesseH |
Okay |
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cg72 |
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hoodedice |
W00000T |
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hoodedice |
ShadowNinja: Thanks again, man - finished assignment one minute short of deadline |
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ShadowNinja |
hoodedice: NP, glad you made it. :-) |
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hoodedice |
That moment when you've coded so hard, you use Tabs in browser to indent XD |
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ShadowNinja |
I often try tabs, but few sites work properly with them. |
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ShadowNinja |
(gist does, ubuntu pastebin doesn't) |
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ShadowNinja |
Lua feels so easy after messing with C(++) and getting tons of inexplicable segfaults. :-) |
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ShadowNinja |
But you don't get the feeling of finally fixing everything and getting valgrind to run with no warnings. :-| |
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sfan5 |
lol |
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eraldev |
/help |
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kahrl |
Unable to find help file or language DLL for language specified. |
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reactor |
Hello everyrobot. |
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Adarqet-Doge |
Robot? |
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eraldev |
Hi |
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Adarqet-Doge |
Hello! |
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eraldev |
Rooobot |
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Adarqet-Doge |
Robot? |
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eraldev |
You seat in irc via mobile? |
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Adarqet-Doge |
What eraldev? |
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reactor |
eraldev: Google Translate eh? |
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* Adarqet-Doge |
is confused |
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* eraldev |
123 |
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reactor |
щщщ. |
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eraldev |
//me d |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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reactor |
'elo |
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iqualfragile |
hi PilzAdam |
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* Jordach |
just realised what he just did with KDE |
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Megaf |
Good MorningAfternoonEvening everyone |
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reactor |
Good [SUBJECT'S TIME OF THE DAY HERE] |
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Adarqet-Phone |
Hello! |
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Jordach |
hey Adarqet-Phone |
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Adarqet-Phone |
Hello! |
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Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/WZUgdey.png |
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Jordach |
:> |
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Megaf |
Ok |
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Jordach |
dafuq |
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Jordach |
xrender works with all the KDE eye candy |
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Jordach |
yet OGL doesn't |
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reactor |
Too much eye candy causes eye cancer. |
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Jordach |
plol |
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Jordach |
quassel's style sheet didn't wanna update... |
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Jordach |
yellow links look like shit on a white BG |
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fireglow |
Is there a way to init a new mod without restarting the server? |
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reactor |
init 1 |
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PilzAdam |
fireglow, no |
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reactor |
Oops, wrong window. |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam, Y U no use Quassel? |
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PilzAdam |
is the time to set it up worth it? |
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Jordach |
yes |
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Jordach |
sudo apt-get install quassel |
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Jordach |
as it's bundled with kubuntu.... |
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Megaf |
man, NTFS is really good |
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Megaf |
pretty damn good |
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Megaf |
in getting totally fragmented |
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Jordach |
no shit |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach, that command is not enough to set it up |
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Jordach |
eh |
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* Megaf |
is using WeeChat (ncurses) |
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reactor |
Megaf: y u no use UFS? |
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Jordach |
it worked for me |
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Megaf |
reactor: It's Windows XP here, I'm at my workplace |
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Jordach |
>XP >2014 |
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PilzAdam |
I need to at least add 1) automatic channel / network joins 2) sasl 3) GUI |
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Megaf |
It's some kind of travel back in time |
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PilzAdam |
s/add/configure/ |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam, it supports the lot |
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Megaf |
Pentium 4 CPUs, 2 GB of Ram and Windows XP |
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Megaf |
nostalgia |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach, it would take at least an hour to do all that |
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reactor |
BSD or Linux would run well on that. |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach, what functions does it support that xchat doesnt? |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam, hover over a link to see the contents, infinite scrollback, support for any KDE theme, can't be buffer overflowed like xchat |
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Megaf |
PilzAdam: XChat = Modern, Quassel = Contemprany (I dont know how to spell that) |
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reactor |
And both are shit. |
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Jordach |
shuddup i'mpissi |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach, I dont need any of these functions |
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PilzAdam |
or at least, they are not worth the setup time |
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sfan5 |
meow |
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sfan5 |
hi everyone |
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reactor |
*sneeze* |
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reactor |
'elo. |
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PenguinDad |
hi sfan5 |
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* sfan5 |
gives Jordach a kitten |
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Jordach |
hah |
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reactor |
Kitten smuggling. |
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* sfan5 |
puts a kitten on reactor's head |
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* reactor |
puts a reactor on the kitten's head |
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reactor |
Wait, I have a better idea. |
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* reactor |
puts a sfan5 on kitten's head |
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reactor |
Okay? |
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sfan5 |
mhm |
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Jordach |
whiskers75, thx for the bot pass |
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Jordach |
lol |
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Jordach |
i've gone too far |
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Jordach |
if i can apply the instagram effect on a render, we're all screwed |
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NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3dXNi6KP64 |
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Jordach |
shit |
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Jordach |
just made the instagram effect without realising it |
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STHGOM |
good for you |
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STHGOM |
...what is the instigram effect? |
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PenguinDad |
over saturated colours and slightly darker |
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reactor |
Why so? |
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Gatharoth |
Ello all |
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Jordach |
reactor, i played with blender's compositing nodes |
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reactor |
No, I mean, why does instagram effect do that? |
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Jordach |
because Polaroid camera from the 80s were always over saturated |
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Jordach |
simply because they printed the image directly |
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Sokomine |
has anyone ever used zlib decompression/deflate with lua? is there a preferrable/recommended lib for that? |
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PilzAdam |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=130698#p130698 |
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PilzAdam |
> VanessaE doesnt know how to use bbcode |
| 16:33 |
VanessaE |
no, I just don't care. |
| 16:33 |
VanessaE |
> > > is less typing than [quote][/quote] [quote][/quote] [quote][/quote] |
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PilzAdam |
inb4 quick quote |
| 16:34 |
VanessaE |
inb4 less deleting. |
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PilzAdam |
deleting? |
| 16:34 |
VanessaE |
Like I said, I just didn't care. |
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Sokomine |
oh yes. the good old >. i like that |
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Sokomine |
i'd also love a forum to news gateway. forums and browsers are not as comftable as the good old usenet used to be |
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reactor |
Sokomine++; |
| 16:40 |
reactor |
Mailing lists are a more UNIX-user-friendly way. |
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Sokomine |
can we get the forum as a mailing list? :) |
| 16:42 |
reactor |
There must be kind-of-gateways. I've seen mailing list archives being accesssible as forums. |
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Sokomine |
except that we need the other way around... |
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Jordach |
ello paramat |
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paramat |
o/ |
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paramat |
http://i.imgur.com/1ZxN3Xc.png noise23 mod, mapgen framework / example using the lua voxel manipulator with 2D and 3D noises https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8628 |
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Saxony |
Anyone know when celeron was last on? |
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Jordach |
Saxony, ah |
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Jordach |
he doesn't idle here |
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Saxony |
dev channel? |
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Jordach |
don't even bother with -dev as webchat clients are silenced |
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Saxony |
i can bust out my actual client |
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Jordach |
if it's forum related, ask me |
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Saxony |
just wanted a quick chat to see if i could get his skype/email |
| 17:05 |
Saxony |
nah |
| 17:05 |
Saxony |
Wanted to see if he wanted to buy Minetest.com & wiki |
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Jordach |
we've already got clones of that palce now |
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Saxony |
Yeah |
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Saxony |
I know |
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Saxony |
I have no problem keeping it, it's making me money for nothing. Just wanted to see if he'd make me an offer considering I'm still #1 on google for many Minetest searches |
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Jordach |
Saxony, donate it - that's an easier method |
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Saxony |
Why donate? |
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Jordach |
donations go straight to him |
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Exio4 |
do you want to charge for a domain... for an opensource project? |
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Saxony |
If he won't buy it I'll either just leave it and keep the money from ads or sell it to someone else who will promote it further. There is still plenty money to be made there |
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Jordach |
Saxony, i pm'd you his paypal address |
| 17:09 |
Saxony |
Why give something away that is making me money for no effort? :P |
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Saxony |
thanks |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
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VanessaE |
hi |
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Leoneof |
hi |
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Leoneof |
why i'm here? |
| 18:18 |
Exio4 |
why not |
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VanessaE |
here is as good a place to be as anywhere else |
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Exio4 |
nah, i would say better |
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| 19:07 |
_Zeus |
I was going to ask you people why minetest was better then any other game, but it's apparently crap. The chunk loading was slow when I actually tried to join a server, the gameplay isnt great, and then there's this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4039 |
| 19:07 |
_Zeus |
Plus the mod API is LUA |
| 19:09 |
VanessaE |
crap? |
| 19:10 |
VanessaE |
ok first thing's first: |
| 19:10 |
VanessaE |
forget the ragequitters. |
| 19:10 |
VanessaE |
they're just asses. |
| 19:10 |
VanessaE |
every game out there has them. |
| 19:12 |
VanessaE |
second, we have LuaJIT, which compiles the Lua code. |
| 19:12 |
VanessaE |
the result is about as fast as the native C++ engine for a lot of stuff. where it is slow usually comes down to poor coding skills or the API itself lacking some speed-critical function that can't be done well in Lua. |
| 19:12 |
_Zeus |
That doesnt make LUA not suck. |
| 19:13 |
_Zeus |
Im not talking about speed. |
| 19:13 |
VanessaE |
if a server is slow at loading chunks, it's because that server is on a slow network. |
| 19:13 |
_Zeus |
LUA just I do not like |
| 19:13 |
VanessaE |
so? |
| 19:13 |
Jordach |
compare that to other libs where you need compiled libs for File I/O, time, network management |
| 19:13 |
VanessaE |
you're not the one running the code :) |
| 19:13 |
VanessaE |
the server runs the code, not the client |
| 19:13 |
pitriss |
_Zeus: Api is sufficient to do most needed things with game.. |
| 19:13 |
VanessaE |
so it doesn't matter, from the client's perspective, if the server runs Lua, Ruby, C++, Python, or BASIC for that matter. |
| 19:14 |
VanessaE |
If the gameplay isn't great, try another server - each server has its own style. |
| 19:14 |
VanessaE |
each server has their own game, their own set of mods, etc. |
| 19:15 |
VanessaE |
I run 6 of them, myself. |
| 19:15 |
* whiskers75 |
hugs VanessaE |
| 19:16 |
VanessaE |
one has Realtest, one Nostalgia, two are extremely heavily modded minetest_game (what I call "my" game really at this point), one is nearly pure vanilla minetest_game, and one is an experimental thing that's not so much a game as a mapgen testing ground that morphed into a worl that people started building on. |
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pitriss |
VanessaE: We appreciate your efforts;) |
| 19:16 |
VanessaE |
thanks pitriss :) |
| 19:16 |
VanessaE |
but my point is that each server is utterly different. |
| 19:17 |
VanessaE |
Realtest is about as ridiculously different from "minetest" as you can get, really |
| 19:17 |
pitriss |
VanessaE: BTW realtest is great idea but it have some flaws.. Too many unused ores for example.. :) |
| 19:17 |
VanessaE |
Nostalgia is a more-or-less accurate recreation of what 0.3.x was like before darkrose picked it up and kept that branch going (she's done wonderful things with it) |
| 19:18 |
VanessaE |
my game expands on minetest_game by adding pretty much everything under the sun that someone should ever want to build with on a normal basis, machines, electronics, food, etc. you name it, it's probably there. |
| 19:19 |
VanessaE |
"almost" vanilla is for folks who want a simple game. |
| 19:20 |
VanessaE |
none of them have PVP or fire enabled, things like a nether mod, for example, because I see no use of that, nor of things like "aether" or any kind of "the end" type of mod, etc. |
| 19:20 |
PenguinDad |
or for people with slow internet connections like me |
| 19:20 |
VanessaE |
pitriss: yeah I know. I think sda97 and DanD had intended to continue expanding the game past "black iron" and into a more modern age |
| 19:21 |
pitriss |
VanessaE: and I bet RealTest rewamped will have way more players (even at current WIP state) with better documentation.. |
| 19:22 |
VanessaE |
pitriss: indeed so |
| 19:22 |
VanessaE |
but I don't perceive of that documentation happening any time soon |
| 19:22 |
rubenwardy |
ha |
| 19:22 |
VanessaE |
DanD left rather loudly. He has since sorta come back, but I don't see him getting much into this anynore. |
| 19:22 |
VanessaE |
anymore* |
| 19:23 |
VanessaE |
_Zeus: any more questions? :P |
| 19:23 |
_Zeus |
Eh, well, I might actually stick around. See if somebody makes a non LUA implementation of the modding API. I really dont play games anymore, I just find ones and code on them. |
| 19:23 |
rubenwardy |
Lua's syntax is quite bad. I prefer JS. |
| 19:23 |
_Zeus |
I'd make one but it sounds painful currently. |
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_Zeus |
Unless I wanted to make a game wrapper. |
| 19:24 |
pitriss |
VanessaE: we building czech one.. currently it is bunch of notes linked together.. If it grows into usable state, we maybe translate it to EN and put on wikia or some similar wiki provider:) |
| 19:25 |
VanessaE |
_Zeus: I don't expect there will be a non-Lua API, however it is possible to code add-ons in C++ or so. See the IRC mod for example |
| 19:25 |
_Zeus |
It still seems painful. |
| 19:25 |
_Zeus |
There is no way I am coding in LUA |
| 19:25 |
_Zeus |
And as I said I only really "play" to make mods/plugins depending apon the game |
| 19:25 |
VanessaE |
just don't suggest javascript |
| 19:25 |
VanessaE |
NO one and I mean NO ONE will accept that :) |
| 19:26 |
Calinou |
lua syntax is quite cool |
| 19:26 |
_Zeus |
I'd prefer a windows batch ping system to LUA xP |
| 19:26 |
VanessaE |
do a google search for "lamefun" and "javascript" and you should find some results that explain why I say that :) |
| 19:26 |
PenguinDad |
and i think ruby won't be accepted either :P |
| 19:26 |
_Zeus |
no, not javascript |
| 19:26 |
Calinou |
praise javascript! |
| 19:26 |
_Zeus |
Lol penguin. |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
the language will not be changed anyway |
| 19:27 |
_Zeus |
YES RUBY DO RUBY YES YES |
| 19:27 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: byte your tongue :P |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
"(she's done wonderful things with it)" the power of the reactionary |
| 19:27 |
_Zeus |
Personally, I think plain old C, C++, or C# would do nicely. |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
_Zeus, you sound like Berlusconi when saying that :P |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
C#: no thanks |
| 19:28 |
Calinou |
C++/C: you can use them under some circumstances, but do so only when needed |
| 19:28 |
rubenwardy |
Ruby is worse than lua |
| 19:28 |
VanessaE |
C or C++ would possibly be accepted, maybe. |
| 19:28 |
VanessaE |
but C# or batch will never be. |
| 19:28 |
_Zeus |
C# DOES have it's issues |
| 19:28 |
rubenwardy |
(minus the whole 1 index thing) |
| 19:28 |
VanessaE |
whatever it is has to be cross-platform. |
| 19:28 |
_Zeus |
I was kidding about batch >.> |
| 19:28 |
_Zeus |
And C# wouldnt really work |
| 19:28 |
VanessaE |
ok :) |
| 19:28 |
_Zeus |
I knew that already |
| 19:28 |
_Zeus |
C and C++ are painful |
| 19:28 |
Calinou |
Java is way better at crossplatform |
| 19:28 |
Calinou |
so use Lua |
| 19:28 |
VanessaE |
_Zeus: well you never know |
| 19:28 |
rubenwardy |
I vote Javascript! |
| 19:28 |
Calinou |
it doesn't hurt to learn a new language |
| 19:28 |
Calinou |
you won't forget your previous languages |
| 19:28 |
VanessaE |
we've had some incredibly insane-sounding suggestions here! |
| 19:29 |
_Zeus |
And java isnt really the best, and would be impossible to implement anyway |
| 19:29 |
rubenwardy |
How about brainfuck? |
| 19:29 |
rubenwardy |
!g brainfuck |
| 19:29 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck |
| 19:29 |
_Zeus |
I tried implementing java from other languages. It's impossible. |
| 19:29 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: and I vote you go suck an egg :) |
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* rubenwardy |
puts a kitten on VanessaE's head |
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* VanessaE |
puts the kitten in OldCoder's pile |
| 19:30 |
_Zeus |
Hmm, brainfuck looks good |
| 19:30 |
_Zeus |
Easier then implementing java by a long shot |
| 19:30 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 19:30 |
PenguinDad |
the syntax isn't complex but ... |
| 19:30 |
VanessaE |
didn't someone write a brainfuck interpreter as a mod somewhere? |
| 19:31 |
_Zeus |
Let's make it read assembly. |
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_Zeus |
Comparison of C and assembly: |
| 19:31 |
VanessaE |
there's already a z80 interpreter somewhere too I think |
| 19:31 |
VanessaE |
and I know there's one that does FORTH also |
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* VanessaE |
pokes RealBadAngel |
| 19:31 |
VanessaE |
link please? |
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rubenwardy |
lol |
| 19:32 |
VanessaE |
there, now the bot will ignore me. |
| 19:32 |
_Zeus |
C has the great speed of assembly and the simplicity to use of assembly too! |
| 19:32 |
rubenwardy |
LOL |
| 19:32 |
rubenwardy |
2LOL! |
| 19:32 |
rubenwardy |
4LOL! |
| 19:32 |
PenguinDad |
VanessaE: you got pwned by ShadowBot xD |
| 19:32 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: you got a link to that FORTH computer you did? and didn't it do Z80 assembly also? |
| 19:33 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, nore made the FORTH machuine |
| 19:33 |
VanessaE |
ah right |
| 19:33 |
VanessaE |
why can't I remember this shit? |
| 19:33 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 19:33 |
_Zeus |
Guys, pick a random number between 1 and 300 |
| 19:33 |
Calinou |
C is slower than assembly, usually |
| 19:33 |
Calinou |
_Zeus, 299 |
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* Jordach |
jams some more C64 RAM into VanessaE |
| 19:33 |
Calinou |
alternative: open a Cube-based game, type /echo (rnd 300) |
| 19:33 |
OldCoder |
_Zeus, Malborge is interesting |
| 19:33 |
_Zeus |
Okay, now time to find the 299th language on this list... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programming_languages |
| 19:33 |
Jordach |
~1d300 |
| 19:34 |
* rubenwardy |
defenestrates test |
| 19:34 |
Jordach |
~dice 1d300 |
| 19:34 |
* rubenwardy |
defenestrates test's cat |
| 19:34 |
* rubenwardy |
defenestrates test |
| 19:34 |
_Zeus |
Well |
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* OldCoder |
will return in an hour |
| 19:34 |
ShadowBot |
Jordach: Error: Dice can't have more than 100 sides. |
| 19:34 |
_Zeus |
second to last |
| 19:34 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 19:34 |
_Zeus |
that was an estimate |
| 19:34 |
_Zeus |
so. |
| 19:34 |
Jordach |
bull can dice not have more than 300 sides |
| 19:34 |
_Zeus |
WE MUST IMPLEMENT ZOPL |
| 19:34 |
_Zeus |
... whatever that is. |
| 19:34 |
* rubenwardy |
defenestrates test |
| 19:34 |
* rubenwardy |
defenestrates test's cat |
| 19:34 |
rubenwardy |
4Yay! |
| 19:35 |
_Zeus |
Zopl: Same speed as C, same complexity as C, and even LESS tutorials! |
| 19:35 |
MinetestBot |
4E4w4w7,7 7J8a8v8a3S3c3ript6.6.6. |
| 19:35 |
* rubenwardy |
defenestrates MinetestBot |
| 19:35 |
rubenwardy |
JS > Lua |
| 19:36 |
VanessaE |
at any rate... |
| 19:36 |
MinetestBot |
I'm calling bullshit on that one/ |
| 19:36 |
_Zeus |
Okay, screw it. There are NO GOOD LANGUAGES. |
| 19:36 |
_Zeus |
MAKE OUR OWN |
| 19:36 |
_Zeus |
*codes for 3 years* |
| 19:36 |
khonkhortisan |
conlanger ^ |
| 19:36 |
_Zeus |
Oh shit... thats LUA... |
| 19:36 |
ShadowNinja |
_Zeus: A C(++) or Python API might be acceptable. But Lua works quite well. |
| 19:37 |
ShadowNinja |
Someone'll have to maintain it though. |
| 19:38 |
Jordach |
then who's going to compile C++ on windows... |
| 19:38 |
rubenwardy |
I can now right click a user's name in HexChat, and defenestrate them from the context menu. |
| 19:38 |
* khonkhortisan |
deops VE |
| 19:39 |
Jordach |
there are only a few people here who have chanserv access |
| 19:39 |
_Zeus |
Side note: Everybody must read this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/234075/what-is-your-best-programmer-joke |
| 19:39 |
VanessaE |
there. :P |
| 19:40 |
Jordach |
dammit |
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* khonkhortisan |
voices... meh, joke already landed |
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Jordach |
http://stackoverflow.com/a/234138 |
| 19:41 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: There are at least seven here. |
| 19:41 |
_Zeus |
[ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ] == 0 ] && rm -rf / || echo *Click* <--- Paste into command prompt and see what happens |
| 19:41 |
whiskers75 |
lol |
| 19:41 |
whiskers75 |
do not |
| 19:42 |
rubenwardy |
"Saying that Java is nice because it works on every OS is like saying that anal sex is nice because it works on every gender." :O |
| 19:42 |
khonkhortisan |
_Zeus, type into bash :(){:|:&};: |
| 19:43 |
VanessaE |
interesting take on russian roulette, zeus... |
| 19:43 |
_Zeus |
"If the box says, "This software requires Windows XP or better," does that mean it'll run on linux?" |
| 19:44 |
khonkhortisan |
HAHAHA |
| 19:44 |
khonkhortisan |
[ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ] == 0 ] && echo "Bang you're dead" || echo *Click* |
| 19:44 |
khonkhortisan |
Bang you're dead |
| 19:44 |
khonkhortisan |
I'm so glad I didn't run the original command |
| 19:45 |
khonkhortisan |
XP is old enough to be supported pretty well in wine |
| 19:46 |
PenguinDad |
khonkhortisan: "bash: Syntaxfehler beim unerwarteten Wort `{:'" |
| 19:47 |
_Zeus |
http://stackoverflow.com/a/958411/3029520 |
| 19:48 |
khonkhortisan |
That's supposed to be a fork bomb, requiring a ulimit to prevent. |
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Garmine |
ohai! |
| 19:49 |
_Zeus |
http://stackoverflow.com/a/537740/3029520 |
| 19:51 |
PenguinDad |
khonkhortisan: i know that |
| 19:51 |
_Zeus |
"It's been said that if you play a windows CD backwards, you'll hear satanic chanting...worse still if you play it forwards, it installs windows." |
| 19:52 |
_Zeus |
This is the one I brought that up looking for: http://i.imgur.com/hF6mS.jpg |
| 19:53 |
khonkhortisan |
I like the train one |
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_Zeus |
Actually though.... |
| 19:58 |
_Zeus |
Ruby looks like a good language to implement |
| 19:58 |
_Zeus |
I havent messed with it much but its clearly much simpler then the other languages |
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domtron |
https://wiki.theory.org/YourLanguageSucks |
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domtron |
!title |
| 20:02 |
MinetestBot |
domtron: YourLanguageSucks - Theory.org Wiki |
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pitriss |
_Zeus: I don't agree.. maintaining two versions of API will be much more difficult than maintainung only already existing LUA one. And I'm not LUA fan. I like ruby but I don't want to harm this project and waste time of core devs. |
| 20:04 |
_Zeus |
You really thought I typed that with a streight face? |
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domtron |
I think Lua is good for modding because of it's simplicity and speed (even if it's syntax is bad). Anyway, since everyone complains about the syntax could we build a simple syntax wrapper ontop of LuaJIT to fix that? Or we could use Lisp... :P |
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domtron |
meh, I'm to slow. I have school work to do anyway >.> |
| 20:14 |
pitriss |
Syntax is good.. I hate nonstandard things on lua.. they reinvented wheel many times.. |
| 20:15 |
pitriss |
why the hell they used ~= instead more standard !=, why they doesn't used some existing implementation of regexes instead their patterns? |
| 20:16 |
pitriss |
and indexing from 1 is just last nail to coffin.:) |
| 20:17 |
domtron |
but since arrays are just tables with numeric keys you can use 0 as the first item right? |
| 20:18 |
VanessaE |
yes. |
| 20:18 |
pitriss |
But those lua patterns.. somebody should kill author for that.. why the heck i need learn the same thing as PCRE (which i know really good) just for one stupid language |
| 20:18 |
VanessaE |
they just default to index-from-1 is all, I believe, |
| 20:18 |
pitriss |
yes but default is 1 |
| 20:18 |
VanessaE |
now, the != versus ~= was just plain stupid :) |
| 20:18 |
VanessaE |
that one drives me nuts. |
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pitriss |
VanessaE: ruby uses =~ for regex matching |
| 20:19 |
VanessaE |
well ruby is stupid too :) |
| 20:20 |
pitriss |
ruby is good =~/regex/ in if is cool.:) |
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JesseH |
Use lisp over Lua? |
| 20:26 |
JesseH |
Man, that is a smart idea. |
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JesseH |
Yeah, let's replace Lua in minetest with scheme. |
| 20:27 |
Jordach |
BASH! |
| 20:27 |
JesseH |
domtron, I'm going to refrain from expressing how angry your statement made me, and instead focus on your lisp idea. |
| 20:28 |
JesseH |
It would be interesting to write a lisp-to-lua compiler in Lua. Probably would be a fun project and I'm down to help with that. |
| 20:29 |
JesseH |
In general, shitty lua programmers are going to write shitty looking lua code... |
| 20:29 |
JesseH |
Not always the case, but more often than not. |
| 20:29 |
JesseH |
Other than that I don't see the issue. :D |
| 20:29 |
Jordach |
bullshit |
| 20:30 |
JesseH |
Get over ~= vs != it's one character length. |
| 20:30 |
JesseH |
Get over 1 indexing. |
| 20:30 |
JesseH |
I agree on the patterns, sorta |
| 20:30 |
JesseH |
Jordach, bullshit to which statement, friend? :D |
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JesseH |
You can do a = {}; a[0] = 1; |
| 20:31 |
JesseH |
You can keep your shitty zero. |
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Jordach |
JesseH, https://gist.github.com/Jordach/88390540522eb1812f59 |
| 20:32 |
JesseH |
Point? |
| 20:32 |
JesseH |
That's 200 lines of globals |
| 20:32 |
domtron |
JesseH: but I am slow and I do have school work... why would either of those make you mad. :P |
| 20:32 |
JesseH |
;P |
| 20:33 |
JesseH |
domtron, I'm sorry, just being pissy. You didn't make me mad. :P |
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JesseH |
I wan't to debate dammit |
| 20:35 |
domtron |
>.> |
| 20:35 |
domtron |
<.< |
| 20:35 |
domtron |
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/breakthroughs/synthetic-muscle-made-of-fishing-line-is-100-times-stronger-than-the-real-thing-16514805 |
| 20:35 |
domtron |
!title |
| 20:35 |
MinetestBot |
domtron: Synthetic Muscle Made of Fishing Line is 100 Times Stronger Than the Real Thing - Popular Mechanics |
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JesseH |
+1 for the look both ways thing |
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PilzAdam |
D: sfan5 copied most stuff from me: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=130740#p130740 |
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sfan5 |
lazyness FTW |
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PilzAdam |
"Root stuff: sudo" |
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sfan5 |
that is kinda pointless |
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sfan5 |
john_minetest: http://i.imgur.com/A6Pw3Cf.jpg |
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sfan5 |
http://i.imgur.com/vADB7Wn.jpg |
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* LazyJ |
is away: I'm away |
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sfan5 |
LazyJ: please don't do this with automatic scripts |
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* sfan5 |
puts a kitten on john_minetest's head |
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Jordach |
fuck YEAH |
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Jordach |
ahhh |
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Jordach |
>mouth ulcer >ice cream |
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* john_minetest |
puts a kitten on sfan5's head |
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sdzen |
https://minetestmods.weebly.com/store/c1/Featured_Products.html |
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sdzen |
anyone else hear of and/or slightly troubled by this? |
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sfan5 |
sdzen: lolwat, that is insame |
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sfan5 |
insane* |
| 21:16 |
sdzen |
I love the 100$ donate button |
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cisoun |
Anyone knows about this guy ? |
| 21:17 |
sdzen |
https://plus.google.com/u/0/108734328540410391733/posts |
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sdzen |
this is the guy that was advertising it on the G+ community |
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sfan5 |
do we even have an offical g+ community? |
| 21:19 |
Jordach |
KILL HIM |
| 21:19 |
sdzen |
unofficial |
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sdzen |
I maintain it |
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sdzen |
slightly |
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sfan5 |
> |
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sfan5 |
>Official Minetest Community |
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Jordach |
sdzen, i was asked by the -staff to grant me access to the moderation facilities |
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Jordach |
(you can thank ShadowNinja for that) |
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sdzen |
I don't remember when it got changed |
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Jordach |
oi, cisoun |
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sdzen |
I used to keep a massive description on there that was too long to read :P |
| 21:21 |
cisoun |
Jordach: o/ |
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cisoun |
sdzen we have a G+ community |
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Jordach |
cisoun, you're able to give others moderation access right? |
| 21:21 |
cisoun |
Yup. |
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Jordach |
apparently i'm supposed to keep an eye on G+ |
| 21:22 |
cisoun |
I'm still the owner of the page. |
| 21:22 |
cisoun |
And I won't refuse some help |
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sfan5 |
apparently i have a g+ profile and I do not at the same time .-/ |
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cisoun |
Jordach: would you like to be a moderator ? |
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cisoun |
same goes to you sdzen. |
| 21:23 |
Jordach |
sure |
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sdzen |
I suppose |
| 21:23 |
Jordach |
cisoun, i'm part of minetest-staff |
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Jordach |
>Minetest staff (operators, administrators, moderators, developers) | This channel is invite-only. (staff are exempt) |
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sfan5 |
sdzen: link to official minetest page please |
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cisoun |
'k give me a sec. |
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cisoun |
Check your notifications. |
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cisoun |
sfan5: https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/116830764303517937720 |
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cisoun |
mmh wait |
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cisoun |
wrong link |
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cisoun |
https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/116830764303517937720/116830764303517937720 |
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* Jordach |
has a Mac OS X styled panel |
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Jordach |
lol |
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LazyJ |
sfan5, sorry I missed it. What am I not supposed to use automatic scripts for? |
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PilzAdam |
LazyJ, away messages |
| 21:46 |
LazyJ |
Hmm.. That is a setting in Xchat. |
| 21:46 |
PilzAdam |
its an evil setting |
| 21:46 |
LazyJ |
Ah |
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LazyJ |
It seemed like a courtesy, especially when folks are checking to see why I stopped responding to them. |
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PilzAdam |
evil things are good in tricking you into thinking that they are good |
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LazyJ |
"What we hold to be true depends greatly upon our point of view." |
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sfan5 |
wut |
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sfan5 |
a tablet for 61 € |
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sfan5 |
http://www.reichelt.de/Tablets/XORO-PAD-721/3//index.html?ACTION=3&ARTICLE=142079 |
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Sokomine |
that's available even for a lower price here |
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Gatharoth |
sfan5: Ello! Long time :3 |
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Jordach |
sfan5, my tablet has the identical body |
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sfan5 |
hm |
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sfan5 |
a tablet for testing minetest wouldn't be bad |
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Sokomine |
it's tempting yes |
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specing |
dont you have a phone? |
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specing |
please don't but ARM shit |
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specing |
you'll regret it |
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specing |
*tablets |
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Sokomine |
although on my phone, mt does consume quite a lot of ram. guess more ram would be better |
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sfan5 |
specing: I have a phone |
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sfan5 |
but it's display is small |
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sfan5 |
uHD resolution |
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specing |
rather buy an x86 convertible with a touchscreen |
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specing |
preferably with an active digitizer |
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sfan5 |
well |
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sfan5 |
I need to test Minetest (for ARM phones) |
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Jordach |
Evergreen fucked his desktop up |
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Jordach |
it's alive! |
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* sfan5 |
taps Jordach |
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Jordach |
you should be tapping EvergreenTree, not me |
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* sfan5 |
taps EvergreenTree |
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Sokomine |
they don't seem to react. perhaps a diamond pick/axe will help :) |
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Jordach |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=130756#p130756 |
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VanessaE |
and you gave it away... :P |
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EvergreenTree |
A package I installed broke something, and I had to go into the grub menu and recover |
| 23:26 |
EvergreenTree |
It had something to do with drivers |
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| 23:27 |
VanessaE |
ouch |
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EvergreenTree |
I'm afraid to restart my computer because it might happen again |
| 23:28 |
EvergreenTree |
I hate drivers |
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EvergreenTree |
:P |
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drivers |
I hate passengers |
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VanessaE |
that's unusual |
| 23:38 |
VanessaE |
normally drivers aren't affected by random packages except in the case of stuff like virtualbox |
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sdzen |
wooo virtualbox |
| 23:38 |
sdzen |
that thing that never works for me |
| 23:39 |
ShadowNinja |
sdzen: Can you give full control over the community to the staff collectively? |
| 23:42 |
sdzen |
http://i7.minus.com/iAkAKQIIzTvex.png |
| 23:42 |
sdzen |
I assume the minetest G+ page is controlled by the staff? |
| 23:42 |
ShadowNinja |
Yep, good. :-) |
| 23:43 |
sdzen |
its been a moderator since I made it |
| 23:43 |
sdzen |
but do what you like there tiger |
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sdzen |
:D |
