Time |
Nick |
Message |
00:01 |
coder |
Is it a hidden file? |
00:01 |
Menche |
no, would be in src/ |
00:02 |
Menche |
if you actually do this, keep in mind that most server admins will not be amused if you use it on their servers. |
00:05 |
iqualfragile |
coder: ok, simple guide |
00:05 |
iqualfragile |
click on your c: drive |
00:06 |
iqualfragile |
then open the WINDOWS folder |
00:07 |
Menche |
lol |
00:07 |
iqualfragile |
in there you go ahead and find the system32 folder |
00:07 |
coder |
STFU |
00:07 |
iqualfragile |
it might be called systemWOW64 if you have a recent os |
00:07 |
iqualfragile |
you need to delete the whole folder |
00:07 |
iqualfragile |
it contains the colision detection code |
00:07 |
EvergreenTree |
coder: No one is going to help you if you say STFU |
00:07 |
coder |
lol thanks iqualfragile |
00:07 |
iqualfragile |
then just start minetest and you will be able to walk throught walls and even spot undergnound ores |
00:07 |
Menche |
:D |
00:08 |
coder |
And sorry for my bad language |
00:08 |
coder |
I wasn't talking to Menche |
00:08 |
coder |
tThanks Menche |
00:08 |
iqualfragile |
np |
00:11 |
iqualfragile |
coder: but please do not hack my server now, ok? |
00:11 |
* Menche |
thinks that code would be in src/player.cpp maybe |
00:12 |
iqualfragile |
coder: oh, i am so sorry, it is sysWOW64 not system, hope i did not confuse you |
00:14 |
PilzAdam |
coder, dont forget to rename minetest.exe into leethaxxor.exe |
00:14 |
Menche |
and the "most helpful channel" award goes to... |
00:16 |
PilzAdam |
/msg iqualfragile please dont tell him where exactly the collision detection in that folder is |
00:18 |
iqualfragile |
Menche: thanks, but i just shared a litle experience |
00:18 |
iqualfragile |
i did the same thing and as a side effect my computer got a lot faster |
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00:29 |
Exio4 |
coder: if you actually made the question in a non-lamer way, you probably could have got a real answer instead of all this |
00:33 |
EvergreenTree |
sfan5: what is minetestbot's command to give someone a link to the article on how to ask questions? |
00:34 |
PilzAdam |
!questions EvergreenTree |
00:34 |
MinetestBot |
EvergreenTree, someone thinks that your question is inaccurate or doesn't follow the guidelines. Read here how to make it right: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
00:34 |
EvergreenTree |
Thank you |
00:35 |
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00:47 |
EvergreenTree |
o/ us_0gb |
00:48 |
us_0gb |
Hey EvergreenTree! And how are you? |
00:48 |
EvergreenTree |
good |
00:48 |
EvergreenTree |
iqualfragile, do not tell him that, that's a secret |
00:48 |
EvergreenTree |
:P |
00:49 |
us_0gb |
Yeah, you probably shouldn't trust me with secrets. |
00:52 |
harrison |
ooo tell me i love a good secret! |
00:52 |
harrison |
you can trust me |
00:52 |
harrison |
i am not a bot |
00:52 |
harrison |
i am a free ai! |
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00:55 |
us_0gb |
I might be a robot. Or I might be the NSA. Likewise, I might be that nosy neighbor that's always trying to figure out what you're up to. |
00:56 |
us_0gb |
#The point is, you don't know me. Why tell me secrets? It would not be wise. |
00:59 |
EvergreenTree |
Actually, do I trust you? I don't know actually |
00:59 |
EvergreenTree |
is it a good idea? |
01:00 |
us_0gb |
No. Trust is always a bad idea. |
01:00 |
us_0gb |
Trust no one. They're all out to get you. |
01:00 |
* EvergreenTree |
hides in a shell |
01:00 |
us_0gb |
Don't even trust this warning. |
01:01 |
EvergreenTree |
I just know there is a chainsaw out there with my name on it |
01:01 |
* EvergreenTree |
shivers |
01:01 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
01:01 |
Menche |
trust no one, especially loggers! |
01:01 |
Menche |
(if you're a tree) |
01:02 |
us_0gb |
I'm a logger. Though to be clear, I mean that I log this channel along with all the others I'm on. |
01:03 |
us_0gb |
Though every time I reset my system, I don't restore the logs, so I lose them. I don't know why I keep them, anyway. |
01:05 |
Exio4 |
i have logs for being able to /grep |
01:05 |
Exio4 |
they're public anyway |
01:07 |
us_0gb |
Huh. I don't know why I didn't think of greping the logs, but that would have come in handy on numerous occasions. |
01:08 |
EvergreenTree |
us_0gb: How do I know you aren't lying about being a logger(tree cutter)? |
01:08 |
EvergreenTree |
You can't believe anything you see on the internet |
01:10 |
us_0gb |
I don't claim to log trees. But one fell over in my front yard from all the ice. It's uprooted! Another in my front yard is slanted now. |
01:10 |
harrison |
since the winter olympics are this week he prolly meant luger not logger |
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01:14 |
us_0gb |
I guess I'm a tree killer by proxy though. I do live in a wooden house and, earlier today, I was using paper products! |
01:30 |
EvergreenTree |
us_0gb: You traitor! |
01:30 |
EvergreenTree |
0_o |
01:31 |
us_0gb |
EvergreenTree: How can I possibly be a traitor when I was never on the side of the trees? |
01:32 |
EvergreenTree |
Everyone is on the side of the trees until proven otherwise |
01:33 |
us_0gb |
Oh. Okay then. |
01:33 |
us_0gb |
Sorry, but I'm on the side of farming. Including tree farming. |
01:33 |
us_0gb |
How do I prove that? |
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01:40 |
Exio4 |
paper can be made out of sugar cane? |
01:40 |
Exio4 |
iirc? |
01:51 |
Exio4 |
avconv is shit |
01:53 |
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01:56 |
Exio4 |
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=729147 |
02:07 |
us_0gb |
Sugarcane? What are you, a Minecrafter? Here at Minetest, we don't even *have* sugarcane. |
02:08 |
Exio4 |
i'm talking about real life :[ |
02:09 |
us_0gb |
;Oh, my bad. I didn't know that was possible in the real world. |
02:09 |
Menche |
i don't think so |
02:09 |
* us_0gb |
apologizes for calling Exio4 a bad name |
02:09 |
Exio4 |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagasse#Pulp.2C_paper_and_board |
02:10 |
Menche |
i thought mojang just renamed papyrus to get sugar out of it or something like that |
02:11 |
Menche |
oh, i guess it can :D |
02:11 |
us_0gb |
Minetest needs beets. That's where we'll get our sugar, if we decide we need sugar for some reason. |
02:11 |
Exio4 |
minetest needs nukes |
02:11 |
VanessaE |
we already get sugar from papyrus. |
02:11 |
VanessaE |
bushes classic mod. |
02:12 |
Menche |
minetest used to have nukes (well, in a mod) |
02:12 |
Exio4 |
we need nukes, and an scale version of earth |
02:12 |
Exio4 |
with, at least, the US, cuba and russia |
02:12 |
Exio4 |
if we can also add zyklon b and germany that would be nice |
02:12 |
* Exio4 |
hides |
02:13 |
us_0gb |
Oh, what? Sugar from papyrus? That's lame. |
02:13 |
VanessaE |
I guess there wasn't any other option at the time. |
02:13 |
* us_0gb |
starts building the competing sugarbeets module |
02:13 |
Exio4 |
13gb left and about 8 in the queue |
02:14 |
Exio4 |
+ doge coin blockchain + ?? |
02:14 |
Exio4 |
i don't think this is good |
02:14 |
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02:14 |
* Menche |
wonders if anyone thinks dogecoin will actually ever be useful |
02:15 |
Exio4 |
why not |
02:16 |
* us_0gb |
would avoid them just because they're memeier than alternatives such as Bitcoin |
02:17 |
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02:18 |
Exio4 |
you use it because its community is friendly and nice |
02:54 |
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02:55 |
Exio4 |
someone needs to code the copy-paste support in console |
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05:33 |
ShadowNinja |
Exio4: Right. How good are you at irrlicht?... |
05:33 |
ShadowNinja |
;-D |
06:48 |
Such-Adarqet |
Hello! |
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07:24 |
specing |
http://i.imgur.com/eCsMlzD.png |
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07:51 |
PenguinDad |
I need help: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1152 |
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08:20 |
PenguinDad |
~seen Peacock |
08:20 |
ShadowBot |
PenguinDad: I saw Peacock in #minetest 1 week, 1 day, 2 hours, 5 minutes, and 37 seconds ago saying "night". |
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11:11 |
Jordach |
jordachTeslaBolt:~$ sudo apt-get install kde |
11:14 |
whiskers75 |
Jordach: nu |
11:15 |
Jordach |
whiskers75, i've actually HAD ENOUGH of Spotify ignoring xfce's window settings |
11:15 |
whiskers75 |
lol |
11:15 |
Jordach |
later versions of xfce do not freak out, but by updating i lose greybird... |
11:15 |
whiskers75 |
greybird? |
11:16 |
Jordach |
the default theme of xubuntu |
11:19 |
Megaf |
specing: so your server really lagged, blinking plant on my server is 1s |
11:19 |
Jordach |
oh look - failminer |
11:19 |
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11:20 |
Megaf |
well, let me check, im not sure |
11:21 |
Megaf |
2 seconds |
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11:26 |
axper |
how do I change mouse speed/acceleration? It's too fast |
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11:43 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
11:43 |
Exio4 |
ShadowNinja: from 1 to 100, about -infinite |
11:44 |
Exio4 |
mouse_sensitivity axper? |
11:44 |
Exio4 |
i think? |
11:44 |
PenguinDad |
hello PilzAdam |
11:46 |
axper |
Exio4: Thanks! |
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11:51 |
Megaf |
Good morning PilzAdam |
11:54 |
Exio4 |
oh, hi PA |
12:05 |
restcoser |
Does someone in here know how to set orientation of blocks such as stairs and trees using voxelmanip? |
12:05 |
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12:06 |
restcoser |
i can change the data of an array position/block, but i don't know how to change that "subdata" |
12:08 |
PilzAdam |
change param2 |
12:08 |
PilzAdam |
there is get_param2_data() and set_param2_data() |
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12:11 |
restcoser |
well, PilzAdam , how that? |
12:11 |
restcoser |
data[area:index(gx,y1+1,gz)].set_param2_data()? |
12:11 |
Megaf |
Folks, as server admin, unified_inventory will act like a creative inventory, how to I change that and make it act like a normal inventory showing recipes? |
12:11 |
restcoser |
i know that there is such stuff using setblock, but with voxelmanip? |
12:12 |
PilzAdam |
no, get_param2_data() is a method of the voxelmanip object and returns an array like get_data() |
12:12 |
restcoser |
which i can then modify... |
12:12 |
restcoser |
how do i know which data represents which orientation? |
12:13 |
PilzAdam |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L319 |
12:13 |
restcoser |
is there something like "get_param_id()" similar to "get_content_id()"? |
12:13 |
restcoser |
ok, ty, ill dig around there |
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12:26 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, KDE |
12:26 |
PilzAdam |
hm? |
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12:31 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/lXTPjj3.png |
12:32 |
PilzAdam |
<3 |
12:32 |
Exio4 |
i've switched to KDE yesterday |
12:33 |
fireglow |
Are there rails and carts in Minetest? |
12:33 |
Exio4 |
i'm still trying to make everything nicely |
12:34 |
PilzAdam |
fireglow, there is a carts mod |
12:34 |
Jordach |
shit |
12:34 |
Jordach |
i've just made KDE look identical to Vista... |
12:35 |
Exio4 |
poor jordach |
12:37 |
fireglow |
PilzAdam: thanks, found it |
12:37 |
sfan5 |
meow |
12:37 |
fireglow |
oh, it's from you! |
12:37 |
sfan5 |
hi everyone |
12:38 |
Jordach |
hey sfan5 |
12:38 |
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12:38 |
Jordach |
converted xubuntu-desktop to kubuntu-desktop |
12:38 |
sfan5 |
eww kde |
12:38 |
Jordach |
Evergreen uses it, PilzAdam uses it, I use it |
12:38 |
Exio4 |
kde is the best desktop enviroment |
12:39 |
sfan5 |
kde is still better than unity |
12:39 |
Exio4 |
i use it too :( |
12:39 |
Exio4 |
racist jordach |
12:39 |
PenguinDad |
Jordach: I use it too |
12:41 |
Exio4 |
i wouldlike to know what makes l4d2 "awesome" outside having zombies + guns in the same game |
12:43 |
Jordach |
Exio4, the zombies are never in the same place twice |
12:43 |
Jordach |
nor are any of the special zombies |
12:44 |
Exio4 |
is it just "kill all the zombies until you got bored" or does it has some "story background"? |
12:44 |
Jordach |
sometimes that witch is in that spot, other games might not |
12:46 |
Exio4 |
6.4/7.6 |
12:46 |
* Exio4 |
waits for the download to finish |
12:46 |
Exio4 |
less than 1gb left :D |
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12:51 |
Exio4 |
wtf i did |
12:51 |
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12:51 |
Exio4 |
7.6 - 6.4 > 1 |
12:52 |
Jordach |
aw |
12:52 |
Jordach |
i want to hide that annoying KDE panel options button, but it can't be removed.. |
12:52 |
Shardvex |
Try XFCE =P |
12:52 |
Jordach |
pfft |
12:52 |
Jordach |
already used that |
12:53 |
Jordach |
but it doesn't look good. |
12:53 |
Shardvex |
ah. |
12:53 |
Shardvex |
How about MATE or cinnamon |
12:53 |
Shardvex |
What distro are you using BTW? |
12:54 |
Jordach |
Xubuntu with kubuntu-desktop |
12:54 |
Exio4 |
>MATE >cinnamonv |
12:54 |
Jordach |
cinnamon is crap; i've tried Mint myself |
12:54 |
Exio4 |
mate is sadly something that is half dead |
12:54 |
Exio4 |
and cinnamon, well.. |
12:54 |
Shardvex |
I'm not really picky about desktop environments |
12:54 |
Shardvex |
I used openbox for 5 years |
12:55 |
Shardvex |
As long as it works |
12:55 |
Shardvex |
I'm good |
12:55 |
Shardvex |
How about GNOME? |
12:55 |
Jordach |
ew |
12:56 |
Shardvex |
lol |
12:57 |
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12:57 |
Jordach |
basically, my tower just locked up with normal KDE, so fallback mode it it |
12:57 |
Jordach |
is* |
12:57 |
reactor |
are* |
12:57 |
Jordach |
wtf, no difference in FPS. |
12:58 |
Exio4 |
Shardvex: gnome3 is like telling someone to use windows |
12:58 |
Exio4 |
no, worse than that |
12:58 |
reactor |
wtf is with so many people trying to log in with wrong passwords? |
12:58 |
Shardvex |
lol |
12:59 |
Shardvex |
What about Unity Jordach? |
12:59 |
Jordach |
!op |
12:59 |
Shardvex |
I hate it, but it does look good |
12:59 |
Jordach |
!stfy |
12:59 |
Jordach |
!stfu |
12:59 |
MinetestBot |
someone thinks you need to shut the fuck up before you get muted. |
12:59 |
Shardvex |
lol k |
12:59 |
Exio4 |
xD |
12:59 |
reactor |
DEs are terrible. |
13:00 |
Exio4 |
KDE is the best of them |
13:00 |
reactor |
They're all too integrated, and too bloated. |
13:00 |
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13:00 |
Exio4 |
the first thing is what they try to do |
13:01 |
Shardvex |
I'm using a computer with 2GB ram and KDE tends to run slowly |
13:01 |
Exio4 |
12gb here |
13:01 |
Shardvex |
Especially more recent versions |
13:01 |
Jordach |
BULLSHIT |
13:01 |
Jordach |
>Jordach has 2GB |
13:01 |
Exio4 |
used kde4 in the netbook with 1gb, and kde3 in the old desktop, with 256mb of ram |
13:01 |
Jordach |
runs like XFCE4 |
13:01 |
Exio4 |
Shardvex: try gentoo |
13:02 |
Shardvex |
Why |
13:02 |
Shardvex |
I use Arch, which is similar to gentoo in how flexible it is |
13:03 |
reactor |
Oh yeah, systemd. |
13:03 |
Exio4 |
arch is like a rolling release that was created to fuck up |
13:03 |
Exio4 |
use a real rolling release Shardvex |
13:03 |
Shardvex |
<Exio4> used kde4 in the netbook with 1gb, and kde3 in the old desktop, with 256mb of ram <--Well, IDK... must be my crappy graphics card or something |
13:04 |
Exio4 |
the netbook had an intel gma, the kde3 desktop had a sis 315 without 3d acceleration and barely any shitty 2d accel |
13:04 |
Shardvex |
okay then maybe my computer hates me |
13:04 |
Shardvex |
idk |
13:04 |
Exio4 |
this desktop is actually mid-end-ish-cpu-with-low-end-gpu too :P |
13:04 |
Exio4 |
fx x6 6100 + gt 610 |
13:05 |
Shardvex |
just bought a rasberri pi ftw |
13:05 |
Shardvex |
raspberri* |
13:05 |
reactor |
Raspberry Pi has no ECC RAM. |
13:06 |
fireglow |
what happened to https://bitbucket.org/neko259/nature/overview ? :< |
13:06 |
fireglow |
It's still listed on http://minetest.net/mods |
13:06 |
reactor |
That's a major flaw, counting you can not really replace memory chips without special tools. |
13:07 |
Exio4 |
raspberry pi is made to be the thinier working arm cpu in the cheapest box you can get |
13:07 |
Exio4 |
not the "useful 35USD cpu" |
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13:08 |
reactor |
Exactly A toy computer. |
13:08 |
reactor |
s/ly/ly./ |
13:08 |
reactor |
Even a crappy peecee would be a better option. Sadly. |
13:08 |
* Jordach |
is using a P4 with nVidia GeForce 6200 |
13:09 |
Jordach |
my pentium 4 kicks your machines ass, what do you have to say for yourself?? |
13:09 |
reactor |
Because they are modular, and you can choose parts. Raspberry is all in one, and once something no longer meets your requirements, you have to ditch the whole machine. |
13:10 |
Exio4 |
the rpi you bought was 35 USD, isn't that a bit cheap to a "working" computer? |
13:10 |
reactor |
And yeah, with proper software old systems do well. |
13:10 |
Exio4 |
Jordach: give us a geekbench score |
13:11 |
* PenguinDad |
has got a AMD Phenom II X6 1100T with a GeForce GTX 650 |
13:11 |
reactor |
Exio4: I doubt ECC RAM would increase the cost very much. |
13:12 |
reactor |
It's useless without that. |
13:12 |
Shardvex |
Ah, well I do not need that out of a Raspberri Pi |
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reactor |
With it, it could at least be used as a silent 24/7 machine. |
13:12 |
reactor |
Without it, it is useless. |
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reactor |
Totally. |
13:12 |
Shardvex |
Utterly |
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Jordach |
PenguinDad, my next machine is an AMD A10x4 @ 4.1GHZ, 8gb of ram, ATI Raedeon HD 8600 |
13:13 |
Jordach |
which is comparable to an Intel i5 :> |
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Exio4 |
i would go for an A10-7xxxK + watercooling and overclock it to 5ghz! |
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* Exio4 |
runs |
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Jordach |
Exio4, 1 extra gigacycle isn't going to affect me |
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Exio4 |
this FX can get up to 4.7ghz stable |
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Exio4 |
but i need better cooling |
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Jordach |
Exio4, the turbo goes right upto 4.7ghz |
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Exio4 |
wtf |
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Exio4 |
with stock cooling? |
13:17 |
Exio4 |
that is not sane |
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reactor |
What's the point of water cooling? Even large systems do not use it anymore. |
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Exio4 |
reactor: it lets you convert the stuff to a phase change cooling later, and also lets you have higher overclocking |
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Jordach |
Exio4, AMD A10-6800K 4.1Ghz Quad Core APU |
13:20 |
Exio4 |
hm, 6800? why not 7800? |
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Jordach |
because that's good enough for me |
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Jordach |
and if i'm rendering all night long, it should drain less power, but have enough to chew through a few frames a minute |
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Exio4 |
but 7800 has new socket |
13:21 |
Jordach |
Exio4, http://www.ebuyer.com/579786-zoostorm-desktop-pc-7873-1214 |
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reactor |
Exio4: phase change?! It requires expensive liquids and complicated piping! |
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reactor |
It's far easier to just find a proper radiator and provide enough airflow. |
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Exio4 |
more like converting the fridge into a cpu cooling system |
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Exio4 |
proper radiator won't let you have the same temps |
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reactor |
Oh, that one. Well, if you live in a desert that's the way. |
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reactor |
There is no point of cooling it below room temperature, is there? |
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Shardvex |
Now here's something awesome: http://benryves.com/projects/z80computer |
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Exio4 |
reactor, if the temperature is below room temperature, that means you can overclock more |
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Jordach |
with the recent flooding in the UK, that water's cold, so i could just stick the metal into the water |
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Exio4 |
and get higher frequencies |
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Jordach |
and move the heat into said water |
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reactor |
Exio4: and what's the point of overclocking? Why not just buy something more powerful for the money you would spend on cooling? |
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Jordach |
because shortening the life of tech is a better deal |
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reactor |
Also, with phase change cooling, you're gonna meet its friend, condensation. |
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Exio4 |
reactor, overclocking lets you re-use the hardware |
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Exio4 |
and it also something fun to do if you have spare money |
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Jordach |
not everyone has spare money these days |
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reactor |
There is something better to do when you have spare money. |
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reactor |
And what Jordach said. |
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Exio4 |
i don't even have non-spare money |
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reactor |
So what's your point then? |
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arsdragonfly |
Well, sometimes you wanna make the most out of old hardware |
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reactor |
But you don't want to go too far into that, arsdragonfly. |
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reactor |
When cooling old hw becomes more expensive than buying new, why not buy new? |
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Jordach |
my P4 likes running at 58 celsius |
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Exio4 |
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 45.0C mobo: 39.0C gpu: 44C |
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Exio4 |
FX ^ |
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Exio4 |
stock cooling |
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Exio4 |
reactor: how much is buying a WC |
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Exio4 |
and how much is mobo+cpu+ram+harddisk+gpu |
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reactor |
Probably equal price, if decent cooling. |
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reactor |
Water cooling w/o phase change is pointless. |
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Exio4 |
why? |
13:32 |
reactor |
Because you can as effectively do it with air cooling. |
13:32 |
reactor |
For less price. |
13:33 |
reactor |
What's the point of cooling chips with water, and then cooling water with air? |
13:33 |
Exio4 |
if you use cheap wc... |
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reactor |
Phase-change cooling is not as simple. |
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reactor |
s/as/that/ |
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Exio4 |
reactor, why do engines have water cooling when they can just only use air cooling, both work eh |
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reactor |
Engines have too little surface available. |
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reactor |
And even cheapest boxen have enough room for big radiators. |
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Exio4 |
also, a all-in-one cooling :P |
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Exio4 |
i need to buy an UPS and harddisks though |
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restcoser |
PilzAdam: local param2 = vm:get_param2_data() |
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restcoser |
^says that get_param2_data is nil |
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PilzAdam |
what Minetest version do you use? |
13:47 |
restcoser |
0.49 |
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restcoser |
*0.4.9 |
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restcoser |
(and voxelmanip works for sure :P) |
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PilzAdam |
the function doesnt exist in 0.4.9 stable |
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PilzAdam |
it was added later |
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restcoser |
alright... i guess ill comment it out for now |
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restcoser |
so ill need to look into obtaining a dev build? |
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Hello everypony! |
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dadix |
thanks |
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reactor |
dadix: die. |
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PenguinDad |
!b16d 4869206A6F686E5F6D696E6574657374 |
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MinetestBot |
Hi john_minetest |
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tomreyn |
PenguinDad: you got a blank space on that hash |
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tomreyn |
oh wait, that's on purpose, sorry |
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considers making a BigDig game |
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reactor |
!b16d ---- |
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reactor: Failed to handle data |
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dadix |
I am in creative option on a creative server. I can build anywhere I want? |
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PenguinDad |
MinetestBot was very fast :D |
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reactor |
MinetestBot: pwned. |
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dadix |
I do not understand how to build here. I know in opensim we have sandboxes to build |
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dadix |
any help? |
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Jordach |
dafuck |
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PilzAdam |
sfan5, op party? |
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PenguinDad |
the net is splitty today :/ |
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sfan5 |
PilzAdam: apparently |
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wtf are my teeth doing |
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Jordach |
one minute they're feeling ok, the next they feel like they don't exist, the next they hurt for fucking *good* reason.. |
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sfan5 |
eeeeeeee |
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sfan5 |
4chan is down |
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Shardvex_2 |
praise the lord |
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Shardvex_2 |
=P |
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* sfan5 |
throws the helix at Shardvex_2 |
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sfan5 |
(if you do not understand watch twitchplayspokemon) |
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Shardvex_2 |
Slightly |
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eraldev |
hi |
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Shardvex_2 |
hi |
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Shardvex_2 |
welcome to grand central station |
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eraldev |
hello |
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specing |
Megaf: Its freeminer |
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Jordach |
no wonder why it's soo sloooooooooooooooooowwww |
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specing |
Must be the optimizations |
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Exio4 |
one of the optimizations of freeminer is kill abms or updates for reducing the "latency" of other things |
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STHGOM |
hello |
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Shardvex_2 |
What do the letters in your name stand for STHGOM |
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STHGOM |
Sparky The Happy Giraffe Of Minetest |
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ranta |
heya all |
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STHGOM |
allooo |
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ranta |
i just recently started playing minetest but as my net wont allow me to connect to online games i have a been trying to find out somthing and have been scouring looking for the answer |
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STHGOM |
your net? |
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ranta |
internet its a public wifi and theres a webfilter in place that prevents me from seeing the public server list |
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STHGOM |
hm |
16:28 |
ranta |
but that has little to do with my question |
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sfan5 |
ranta: try any of these: http://proxy.org/ |
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reactor |
19:23 < Shardvex> Now here's something awesome: http://benryves.com/projects/z80computer |
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reactor |
Don't be ridiculous. Can it run UNIX? |
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ranta |
im on ubuntu 13.10 so theres a built in vpn i just cant find a relible connection to use my question has to do with a peticualr recipe |
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* sfan5 |
puts Linux on reactor's head |
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sfan5 |
reactor: how 'bout this? http://spritesmods.com/?art=avrcpm |
16:31 |
Shardvex_2 |
http://www.zdnet.com/photos/missed-out-on-raspberry-pi-herere-five-alternatives/6351193 |
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Megaf |
specing: "optimizations" |
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Megaf |
so you are at the wrong channel xP |
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sfan5 |
Shardvex_2: have you heard of odroid, cubieboard and udoo? |
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specing |
RPI sucks so much it stinks to mars |
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Megaf |
specing: what? |
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specing |
there are no alternatives to it, everything is superior |
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Megaf |
Raspberry Pi is damn perfect fo what its meant for |
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* sfan5 |
acks with Megaf |
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specing |
being a kids toy? |
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Megaf |
specing: indeed is a terrbile PC, just like a Ferrari sucks to transport 40 people at once |
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ranta |
yup i have a teacher who had a home automation system based on a raspberry pis |
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Megaf |
Raspberry Pi is fast as hell for automation stuff |
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Megaf |
almost overkill |
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Megaf |
and still really cheap |
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specing |
I have an 200MHz ARM9 board with 100+ GPIOs |
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specing |
RPI is a joke when it comes to home automation |
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sfan5 |
lol |
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Megaf |
specing: would you like a gold mdal for that? |
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sfan5 |
the rpi was designed to have gpio's |
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specing |
how many, 10? |
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specing |
Can't do much with 10. |
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sfan5 |
but it wasn't designed to be used for home automation with more than 100 devices |
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sfan5 |
-.- |
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sfan5 |
<Megaf> specing: indeed is a terrbile PC, just like a Ferrari sucks to transport 40 people at once |
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reactor |
Home automation and no ECC. |
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reactor |
*slow clap* |
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Megaf |
sfan5: actually it could be user for that, |
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Megaf |
people are using RPis to simulate clusters and learn about parallel stuf too |
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Megaf |
RPi its just great for LEARNING things |
16:40 |
Megaf |
Not so great to actually implement them, it can do, yes, but will not be so great |
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* sfan5 |
uses his rpi as torrent client & printer server |
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ranta |
i may not be able to contribute the the convo very much but damni ti seeing all this computer stuff has me in heaven :P |
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sfan5 |
and samba share & web server |
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Megaf |
sfan5: your RPi must do that really well |
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specing |
right. |
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sfan5 |
Megaf: it does |
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specing |
700MHz ARM11 and SD cards/USB HDDs |
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specing |
(haha) |
16:41 |
sfan5 |
but I couldn't get self-compiled nginx to work |
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sfan5 |
specing: i overclocked it to 900MHz |
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specing |
Oh gosh |
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specing |
I better hide |
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specing |
How many Meaningless Indication of Processor Speed does /proc/cpuinfo say? |
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specing |
^ BogoMIPS |
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sfan5 |
2 |
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sfan5 |
do I care? |
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sfan5 |
no |
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specing |
2? |
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sfan5 |
BogoMIPS: 2.00 |
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specing |
wat |
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sfan5 |
(ik that that value is very weird) |
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specing |
my 200 Mhz ARM9 says 98 BogoMIPS |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all |
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Exio4 |
specing: looks like it is overclocked |
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domtron |
hi rubenwardy |
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Exio4 |
er, underclocked actually |
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specing |
what is underclocked? |
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Exio4 |
working at non-max-stock frequency, probably powersave stuff |
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specing |
who? |
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specing |
200 MHz is fast enough |
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specing |
also BogoMIPS is computed at kernel startup, no powersave involved |
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specing |
and ARM9 averages to about 2 cycles per instruction |
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specing |
john_minetest: My main machine is 2x2.4 and I am satisfied |
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specing |
my desktop is 4x3.6 and it is just too damn fast |
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specing |
not sure what you are doing to need more than 4x3.4 |
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reactor |
clockwork? |
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Megaf |
specing: bogomips is not a real performance thing, it just show you how well your CPU does nothing |
17:55 |
Megaf |
"the number of million times per second a processor can do absolutely nothing" |
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Megaf |
your ARM9 is really good at it |
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Megaf |
And you cant compare different CPUs |
17:57 |
Megaf |
a 1994 Motorola MC688060 is "faster" in bogomips than a Pentium III Xeon |
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eraldev |
Hi |
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Megaf |
Hi there |
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rubenwardy |
How do I get the currently selected node from pointed_thing? |
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VanessaE |
you have to use get_node and pointed_thing.under (or .above) as your position |
18:01 |
VanessaE |
.under is the thing you're pointing at |
18:01 |
VanessaE |
.above is the node between you and your target |
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VanessaE |
so e.g. under_node = minetest.get_node(pointed_thing.under) |
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eraldev |
How to receive a player coord in lua api? |
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specing |
Megaf: hence Meaningless Indication of Processor Speed |
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eraldev |
P |
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eraldev |
Please give me link of lua minetest api |
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VanessaE |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt |
18:10 |
eraldev |
Thx Vanessa |
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VanessaE |
not sure what call fetches the player's coords though |
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eraldev |
Ok |
18:11 |
eraldev |
Thank you |
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rubenwardy |
What is wrong with: |
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rubenwardy |
minetest.set_node(up(pos,1),"castle_rts:wall") |
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rubenwardy |
I tried: minetest:set_node(up(pos,1),"castle_rts:wall") |
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VanessaE |
rubenwardy: { name = "castle_rts:wall" } |
18:12 |
rubenwardy |
up(pos,dist) moves the y co-ord by dist |
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rubenwardy |
oh |
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VanessaE |
minetest.set_node(up(pos,1), { name = "castle_rts:wall" }) |
18:12 |
rubenwardy |
I tried minetest.set_node(up(pos,1),{node:"castle_rts:wall"}) |
18:12 |
rubenwardy |
:P |
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VanessaE |
assuming the up() call works with a pos{} table |
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rubenwardy |
I just copies the table, and y+=dist |
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VanessaE |
ok |
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VanessaE |
so yeah |
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sfan5 |
lolwat: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21916431/c-how-can-i-append-an-int-to-an-int |
18:35 |
STHGOM |
-ChanServ- [#minetest] Welcome to Minetest IRC | English channel: #minetest | Willkommen. Deutscher Kanal: #minetest-de | Bienvenido. Canal en español: ##minetest-es |
18:36 |
STHGOM |
why isn't this in the topic? |
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18:39 |
sfan5 |
STHGOM: ChanServ tells you |
18:40 |
sfan5 |
what do you want more? |
18:41 |
STHGOM |
he tells me every time |
18:42 |
sfan5 |
and not everyone reads the topic |
18:42 |
sfan5 |
new messages popping up are more likely to be read |
18:42 |
STHGOM |
hm |
18:43 |
STHGOM |
he should say "READ THE **** TOPIC!!!" |
18:44 |
reactor |
Clients do display the topic on join. |
18:44 |
STHGOM |
bye |
18:44 |
STHGOM |
whatever |
18:45 |
reactor |
So me neither see the point in that. |
18:47 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: regarding that stackoverflow link... I feel sorry for the OP, looking at user2864740's answer :) |
18:47 |
VanessaE |
poor guy got 1000x as much math as he put into the question ;) |
18:48 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, tostring(x) tostring(y) result = x..y print (result) |
18:48 |
Jordach |
lua'd |
18:48 |
Jordach |
insert \n as needed |
18:48 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: "2. Convert the integers to strings, concatenate the strings, and convert the string back to an integer." |
18:48 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, that isn't nessescary |
18:48 |
VanessaE |
ninja'd. 7 mins ago :P |
18:48 |
Jordach |
he's asking for the two numbers to be joined together |
18:49 |
Jordach |
you can always tonumber(result) then print (result) |
18:49 |
VanessaE |
indeed, but he didn't say if he needed the result to be treated as an integer or not. |
18:49 |
Jordach |
not fucking difficult :P |
18:50 |
VanessaE |
nevertheless, that's just about the stupidest question I've ever seen posed on SO in...forever :P |
18:51 |
* sfan5 |
puts Jordach into sin() |
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18:53 |
Jordach |
sfan5, like my Vista themed KDE? http://i.imgur.com/X5lkyaI.png (first wallpaper found in my /home/) |
18:53 |
sfan5 |
eww |
18:53 |
sfan5 |
vista |
18:53 |
sfan5 |
not only vista is shit |
18:53 |
sfan5 |
but it's design is too |
18:53 |
Jordach |
Vista looked good - but didn't work |
18:54 |
reactor |
Oh come on. Candy buttons are shit. |
18:54 |
* Jordach |
plays spotify:user:sfan5:starred on shuffle |
18:55 |
Jordach |
wubwubwub |
18:55 |
* sfan5 |
transforms MinetestBot into a Intel Core i5 and thorws her at Jordach |
18:55 |
sfan5 |
throws* |
18:55 |
Jordach |
sfan5, LGA 775 |
18:55 |
Jordach |
Pentium D is the max for my Mobo |
18:56 |
* sfan5 |
transforms ShadowBot into an Intel mainboard and throws it at Jordach |
18:56 |
Jordach |
yes, my computer will take a D |
18:56 |
sfan5 |
it wants the D |
18:56 |
Jordach |
600 years FTW |
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19:10 |
w_laenger |
http://is.gd/ve73P6 |
19:10 |
sfan5 |
!title |
19:10 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Tim and Eric Awesome Show Great Job!: I Sit On You - YouTube |
19:12 |
w_laenger |
http://is.gd/u10mBY http://is.gd/jfRskj |
19:12 |
sfan5 |
!title |
19:12 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: X-Men Origins: Cyclops Cat - YouTube |
19:12 |
w_laenger |
watch this if you are bored |
19:12 |
w_laenger |
these* |
19:13 |
sfan5 |
please stop using unnecessary short links |
19:13 |
w_laenger |
ok, I thougth it would be better to have less text |
19:16 |
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19:16 |
Jordach |
better? |
19:17 |
sfan5 |
no |
19:17 |
w_laenger |
I don't feel a difference. |
19:17 |
sfan5 |
link shorteners are not disallowed |
19:17 |
sfan5 |
their use are 'just' discouraged |
19:17 |
sfan5 |
is* |
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Topic for #minetest is now 0.4.9 is released! | Website: http://minetest.net | Rules: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | Core Devs: #minetest-dev | Servers: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | IRC stats: http://sfan5.dyndns.org/ircstats/minetest.html | Link shorteners are discouraged. |
19:18 |
w_laenger |
it's boring to read the links? |
19:18 |
Jordach |
we prefer to see what we get |
19:19 |
w_laenger |
Now I feel the difference |
19:22 |
Megaf |
VanessaE: Hi, couldnt you write a INSTALL.,d for HDX textures? |
19:23 |
Megaf |
INSTALL.md* |
19:24 |
w_laenger |
!title http://ubuntuone.com/2HOmYunGmLzh9DxXfK3UGe |
19:24 |
MinetestBot |
w_laenger: Document isn't HTML |
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19:26 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: why? |
19:26 |
VanessaE |
copy the folder to ~/.minetest/textures |
19:26 |
VanessaE |
done. |
19:27 |
rubenwardy |
How do you tell in the formspec call back if the user has pressed esc? |
19:27 |
rubenwardy |
ie: closed it without pressing a button |
19:28 |
Megaf |
VanessaE: And how di I apply it/select it? |
19:28 |
VanessaE |
w_laenger: url shorteners hide the actual site name. how do I know that clicking a bit.ly link won't take me to a goat.se image? |
19:28 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: main menu, "Texture Packs" tab |
19:29 |
w_laenger |
I think you're right with this |
19:29 |
VanessaE |
(or goat.cx or whatever the site was) |
19:29 |
Megaf |
oh, I see, thanks |
19:29 |
w_laenger |
It took a few seconds until they realized that the screenshots were not from mc. |
19:30 |
VanessaE |
meanwhile for the squeamish, the previous link is a screenshot of a jungle/swamp, looks like something from the minetest "sumpf" mod. |
19:30 |
w_laenger |
Yes |
19:30 |
w_laenger |
I showed it at #minecraft |
19:31 |
rubenwardy |
Found it. fields.quit == true |
19:31 |
w_laenger |
only the link |
19:32 |
PilzAdam |
topic of the day: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=130581#p130581 |
19:33 |
VanessaE |
ohh brother. |
19:33 |
VanessaE |
drop that thing right in the trash |
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w_laenger |
ok, no shortened links |
19:37 |
w_laenger |
https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/3192173/2222488/52cc8570-9a66-11e3-807c-9cad8c683b1b.png |
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w_laenger |
is it possible to unpublish/remove such a github file without asking someone like an admin? |
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VanessaE |
probably needs a github admin. |
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19:41 |
w_laenger |
why aren't the files stored into a hidden repository of the user? |
19:42 |
Megaf |
we should redirect minetest.com to minetest.net... |
19:43 |
w_laenger |
I hope it's not too long |
19:43 |
w_laenger |
sth from wikipedia |
19:43 |
w_laenger |
Git-logo.svg Git logo Git session.png A command line session showing repository creation, and addition of a file and remote synchronization Original author(s) Linus Torvalds |
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rubenwardy |
What is the best (most used) mod that adds a better inventory |
19:46 |
rubenwardy |
? |
19:46 |
w_laenger |
what do you call a better inventory? |
19:47 |
w_laenger |
oo |
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19:48 |
w_laenger |
"publish file" of ubuntu one stopped working for me |
19:48 |
rubenwardy |
for example, is inventory plus (https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3100) or unified inventory (https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3933) better? |
19:48 |
rubenwardy |
or another? |
19:49 |
w_laenger |
I prefer inventory plus |
19:49 |
w_laenger |
it is used to add more stuff to the inventory, eg. the craft guide or we gui |
19:51 |
w_laenger |
I'll play this http://www.runouw.com/games/sm63/popup.php |
19:52 |
w_laenger |
or here |
19:52 |
w_laenger |
http://www.runouw.com/games/sm63/sm63game.swf |
19:53 |
w_laenger |
what does "L is real" mean? |
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19:54 |
w_laenger |
weird |
19:54 |
w_laenger |
all my files keep getting removed automatically |
19:55 |
w_laenger |
is writing this (about other games) allowed here? |
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19:56 |
reactor |
That means L is very unlike you. |
19:56 |
w_laenger |
ok |
19:57 |
reactor |
But if seriously, it most likely means L is not necessarily an integer. |
19:57 |
reactor |
You familiar with data types? |
19:58 |
w_laenger |
|
19:58 |
w_laenger |
I read the sign at the title (video?) |
19:59 |
reactor |
!title |
19:59 |
MinetestBot |
reactor: Document isn't HTML |
19:59 |
w_laenger |
int, float, bool, string, char, u8, s64, ... |
19:59 |
w_laenger |
!title http://www.runouw.com/games/sm63/popup.php |
19:59 |
MinetestBot |
w_laenger: Play Super Mario 63 |
19:59 |
reactor |
MinetestBot: you aren't of any use. Please kill yourself. |
20:00 |
* sfan5 |
gives reactor a kitten |
20:00 |
w_laenger |
you would need to load the swf file and don't press onto "start" |
20:00 |
* reactor |
sneezes and blows the nose in the kitten's fur, then passes it back to sfan5. That's a nice handkerchief you have. |
20:01 |
* sfan5 |
cleans the kitten and gives it a laser |
20:01 |
* w_laenger |
thinks about gnash |
20:02 |
w_laenger |
all type wget http://www.runouw.com/games/sm63/sm63game.swf; firefox sm6* |
20:03 |
reactor |
Firefox is _. |
20:03 |
w_laenger |
type gnash sm63game.swf |
20:03 |
w_laenger |
ok |
20:03 |
w_laenger |
maybe insert a cd Downloads; |
20:03 |
fireglow |
found a pic of reactor: http://i.imgur.com/13KEBb7.jpg |
20:04 |
reactor |
Asterisk, a circumflex cucumber of error planet system of eh ampersand asterisk иÐЖÐЛИД. |
20:04 |
reactor |
No, thank you. |
20:04 |
reactor |
Facial hair is outdated. |
20:04 |
reactor |
Maybe you need to cope with your projection? |
20:06 |
* w_laenger |
is too lazy to copy teraslogy's L-system trees into a minetest mod |
20:06 |
w_laenger |
Loading. Please wait... |
20:07 |
w_laenger |
http://minetest.fensta.bplaced.net/#!page:1,filtertype:Name,filter:Cywalk%20Sam |
20:08 |
w_laenger |
$sudo shutdown -h now |
20:10 |
reactor |
sudo. |
20:14 |
reactor |
What's the point? Too hard to remember your system's root password? |
20:14 |
Exio4 |
people would use the same password for root and normal user anyway |
20:15 |
reactor |
Exio4: that's naive. |
20:15 |
rubenwardy |
You can now make formspecs for both inventory_plus and unified_inventory in https://github.com/rubenwardy/smartfs |
20:15 |
Exio4 |
also reactor |
20:15 |
rubenwardy |
with exactly the same code |
20:16 |
Exio4 |
proper sudo asks you for root's password or the user you want to "switch to" |
20:16 |
Exio4 |
if you used it only with its default config |
20:16 |
Exio4 |
has anyone here l4d2? |
20:17 |
Exio4 |
legit english |
20:17 |
reactor |
There is no point in installing sudo, unless you want to outsource some administrative tasks to other users. |
20:21 |
Megaf |
One thing I dont like in unified_inventory is that it will work as a creative inventory if you are the server admin |
20:21 |
Megaf |
I dont want a creative thing, I want to know crafting recipes |
20:25 |
reactor |
Exio4: I've _seen_ it. |
20:26 |
domtron |
I thought sudo does some sanity checking as apposed to just running commands as root... even if it doesn't it does add an extra bit of protection so you don't accidentally mess up the system. |
20:26 |
reactor |
By default, it asks your password for administrative tasks (WHAT?!). |
20:27 |
reactor |
If your password gets exposed, they get access to your administrative privileges, too. |
20:27 |
reactor |
So the attacker will not oly be able to mess up your account, but the whole system. |
20:27 |
reactor |
s/oly/only/ |
20:28 |
Megaf |
I want to go home to test VanessaE's texture pack! |
20:29 |
reactor |
I wanna go home, take off this uniform and leave the show! |
20:29 |
sfan5 |
reactor, domtron: sudo can be configured to only allow a specific command like tar to e.g. allow people to make backups |
20:29 |
reactor |
Yes. I you need it. |
20:29 |
reactor |
s/I/If/ |
20:30 |
reactor |
If you don't, why mess with sudo? |
20:31 |
reactor |
As mentioned above, some systems come with misconfigured sudo. |
20:31 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: But link shorteners are great for 500+ character links. |
20:32 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: youtube links are usually not >500 chars |
20:32 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: The topic doen't mention that it inly applies to youtube links. |
20:33 |
reactor |
Link shorteners are also a good way of fooling people who don't use proper filtering to see what can not be unseen. |
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20:33 |
ShadowNinja |
Why the mini op party? |
20:34 |
sfan5 |
dunno |
20:36 |
ShadowNinja |
Hmmm, what do you think about voicing staff? (ops, admins, mods, and devs) |
20:36 |
sfan5 |
not a bad ida |
20:36 |
sfan5 |
idea* |
20:36 |
sfan5 |
but why? |
20:37 |
ShadowNinja |
Users know who is knowledgable about Minetest. |
20:37 |
ShadowNinja |
(Or a subset at least) |
20:38 |
Megaf |
sfan5: isnt servers.minetest.net better than minetest.net/servers? |
20:38 |
sfan5 |
it's the same |
20:39 |
Megaf |
at leaset server.minetest fits |
20:39 |
proller |
first have more info |
20:39 |
Megaf |
least* |
20:42 |
twoelk |
sfan5: you do some of those stats reports, dont you? |
20:42 |
sfan5 |
yes |
20:43 |
twoelk |
could you do one that compares the usage of mods on the servers? |
20:43 |
sfan5 |
uh |
20:43 |
sfan5 |
sure |
20:43 |
twoelk |
like most used or such |
20:44 |
reactor |
Hmm. |
20:44 |
twoelk |
maybe there are also relations between stabilty, popularity and mod usage |
20:45 |
reactor |
the "supplied wrong password" and such messages don't tell the source IP. |
20:45 |
reactor |
:( |
20:46 |
rubenwardy |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=130588#p130588 |
20:46 |
Jordach |
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/incident.png |
20:46 |
Jordach |
reactor, ^ |
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reactor |
Heh. |
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phantombeta |
Hi |
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domtron |
where are worlds stored for a local build... because I was sure it was in the mintest/worlds folder but that seems to be missing O.o |
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PilzAdam |
"local build"? |
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domtron |
not using "make install" |
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PilzAdam |
you have to compile with cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 |
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PilzAdam |
just not running make install isnt enough |
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domtron |
huh... I've been using it fine and I just ran cmake . && make && ./bin/minetest |
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PilzAdam |
your world is probably in ~/.minetest/worlds/ |
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domtron |
yep there it is. The readme said installed versions save to "$user/worlds/" |
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PilzAdam |
the readme also says that you have to run cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 if you dont want to install ;-) |
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domtron |
it is strange. I'm sure I have seen worlds in the minetest/worlds folder. |
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domtron |
so it does, but up till now I haven't had a problem. Anyway, thank you. |
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