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Time Nick Message
00:00 rubenwardy byeee
00:01 harrison attachment thingy lol
00:01 harrison suggestive
00:03 Sokomine peacock: still better than 2d players. those where scary. one would walk along a road not suspecting anything...and then a 2d shape appears!
00:06 xyz I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as sub-game is, in fact, game, or as I've recently taken to calling it, a game for the Minetest engine.
00:07 aldobr kaeza: do you know how to read files in luajit c ?
00:08 aldobr is it equal to common c ?
00:10 Peacock I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Minetest engine is, in fact, GNU/Minetest engine, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU + Minetest engine..
00:10 Peacock because, ianno, its compiled with gcc, so rms deserves at least 2/3's of the credit :P
00:12 trauerlicht bye
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00:14 aldobr looks like i have a working 6502 emulator
00:15 aldobr inside minetest
00:16 Peacock that wield3d bug, is it normal for those thing to appear high up in the sky?
00:16 PilzAdam Peacock, what if I compile with clang?
00:17 PilzAdam or even msvc?
00:17 Peacock well RMS still deserves all the credit because he invented free software :P
00:17 Peacock (and yes im being very sarcastic lol)
00:17 Sokomine peacock: no. most of the time they appear on/in the road 2-3 blocks from you
00:18 Sokomine perhaps we need a sarcasm index :-)
00:18 PilzAdam lets call it GNU/M$/Minetest engine
00:19 harrison Did you mean Gnu/supial, the open source mammal?
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00:21 zash Libreminer, Openminer, Freeminer, GNU Miner
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00:21 aldobr does github flag automatically the licence of a repository ?
00:22 Peacock yeah no this wield3d is no good, with the ridiculous tools i have, the place looks like a sex shop lol
00:25 kaeza aldobr, I'd guess so
00:25 kaeza re: file I/O
00:25 aldobr already done
00:25 aldobr (but not tested)
00:25 aldobr i found a C code of a 6502 emulator that was easy to port to FFI
00:26 aldobr now i am waiting the email response of the author to check if it is ok to use it in minetest
00:26 aldobr everything is ported now
00:27 aldobr i've made a routine to load the file from a *.rom file
00:27 aldobr but i know nothing about 6502 systems
00:27 Exio4 make a sega genesis emulator in-game
00:27 aldobr where is the ROM usually placed ?
00:28 aldobr where does the program counter starts after a reset ?
00:28 Exio4 gens is opensource, thanks! :D
00:28 aldobr http://www.pagetable.com/?p=46
00:28 aldobr make your own version of msbasic
00:28 aldobr thats interesting
00:28 kaeza aldobr, VanessaE may have more knowledge about that
00:29 kaeza also google :P
00:29 xyz what's that lib reminer?
00:29 * VanessaE hides
00:29 aldobr 6502 is pretty ugly
00:29 VanessaE blasphemer.  byte your tongue
00:29 aldobr it doesnt have io instructions nor a separate io space
00:29 aldobr ie.: everything is ram mapped
00:30 VanessaE actually, it does have separate I/O space if the machine is properly designed.
00:30 aldobr how to differentiate a generic memory read from a i/o read ?
00:30 aldobr you need to use bank switching = hack
00:30 VanessaE C64 for example used a banked scheme.  two control bits in the processor turn the I/O devices on/off, revealing RAM or ROm under them, depending on their settings.
00:31 aldobr arg at bank switching
00:31 aldobr :P
00:31 aldobr anyway
00:31 aldobr where does PC start after reset ?
00:31 VanessaE in those days either you used MMIO or you used some special processor instructions, and either way, a few extra pins.
00:32 VanessaE $FFFE/F I think
00:32 VanessaE if I remember right, the processor reads the address found at that pair, and jumps there.
00:32 aldobr hm
00:32 VanessaE been a while since I messed with the reset and other interrupt vectors.
00:33 aldobr there are only 3
00:33 aldobr :P
00:33 aldobr reset, int and nmi
00:34 xyz hmm... so what if we just (for starters) call some function from a .so module every server/environment step, just like with Lua, and pass pointer to server/environment object to it? would that be good enough?
00:34 VanessaE yup
00:34 aldobr where does the rom usually sits ?
00:35 VanessaE aldobr: in the C64 there are ROMs at $A000, $D000 (under I/O) and $E000.  It's the latter that provides the hard-coded interrupt vectors.
00:35 VanessaE I'm not sure where the various other 6502-based micros of the day put theirs, but I would guess all of them have at least some ROM up at the $F000+ range anyway
00:36 VanessaE xyz: depends on what that function does, but why not?
00:36 aldobr from what you said, it can sit anywhere
00:37 VanessaE if you mean some kind of generic "hook to the outside world" function, sure, as long as it gives the outside world enough access to the engine's internals to be useful
00:37 aldobr provided it has a pointer at $FFFF/FFFE
00:37 xyz VanessaE: well the function is supposed to be written by a mod creator
00:37 VanessaE aldobr: the ROM has to cover at least $FFFE/F
00:37 xyz why not: this is not a real api but a hack
00:37 VanessaE xyz: ah, I see what you're getting at, I guess I missed something.  Sure, why not?
00:38 xyz no compatibility guaranted
00:38 VanessaE could be useful enough, but maybe allowing running of that code via some callbacks instead of just on-step  is a good idea
00:38 aldobr VanessaE: my plan is to port msbasic.
00:39 aldobr imagine the computer slowing booting inside a minetest map and displaying
00:39 VanessaE aldobr: if there's no ROM at that address, there'll be RAM or unmapped dead space and the CPU will jump off into never-never land :)
00:39 aldobr MinetestBASIC 1.0
00:39 VanessaE haha
00:39 aldobr READY.
00:39 Exio4 MTBASIC
00:39 VanessaE aldobr: 38911 BASIC BYTES FREE ? :)
00:40 kaeza well, since everything has access to everything in the engine, just give a random pointer and you can hack anything :P
00:40 aldobr POKE -32723, 1
00:40 aldobr poke of death
00:40 aldobr your map is utterly destroyed
00:41 VanessaE xyz: well in the end, if you're about to allow calling a random shared lib from timer/callback, you should at least make an attempt at a stable API to that end
00:41 VanessaE otherwise its a waste of tie
00:41 VanessaE time*(
00:41 VanessaE aldobr: heh
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00:46 aldobr i am thinking about the interface now
00:47 aldobr how to represent a computer inside minetest ?
00:47 aldobr what makes sense ?
00:48 VanessaE https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-computer/
00:48 VanessaE :)
00:48 VanessaE one of these maybe :)
00:48 VanessaE but given an actual function instead of being a decoration
00:48 aldobr but how to interact with it ?
00:48 aldobr formspecs ?
00:48 VanessaE sure, what else?
00:49 aldobr can formspecs be updated withou closing reopening ?
00:49 kaeza my computers have a function :(
00:50 kaeza they turn on/off
00:50 aldobr theres a state variable that holds 64k ram and registers
00:50 aldobr how to attach that variable to a node?
00:50 aldobr its a C structure
00:50 xyz Vadtec: on step was just an example
00:50 xyz oops
00:51 xyz VanessaE: ^
00:51 VanessaE oh ok
00:51 Peacock that is bizarre, with 3darmor modpack and zeg's skins, im shown to be wielding my own skin rather than the tool, but everyone else wields the right item :/
00:51 xyz and designing api is hard
00:51 VanessaE well by whatever method the code would be executes, some rudimentary API will be needed.  someone is gonna want to be able to turn around and call engine functions from within the called library after all.
00:54 xyz and that'll be possible, they just include some minetest header and call some class public function
00:55 VanessaE that works
00:55 xyz there won't be any binary compatibility though
00:56 xyz between different compilers and different versions of a compiler stuff could break
00:57 aldobr pls dont pass classes around, theres no standard for object formats
00:57 aldobr plain old C interface is better
00:59 xyz indeed, passing classes is what I was going to do and I know that there's no abi compatibility at all
01:01 xyz but as I said designing APIs is hard and I'm jot ready for the task
01:02 xyz s/jot/not/
01:02 ShadowNinja xyz: Re: binary modules.  Passing a pointer to something that can be used to get a pointer to just about anything you could want sounds good.
01:02 aldobr directfb has a nice pseudo-oop api
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01:02 xyz ShadowNinja: that'd be server object
01:03 ShadowNinja If you're seriously making binary modules you should also make sure it's platform-independant of course.
01:03 arkmabat Anyone know where the latest download for the Sphere Rpg Maker went?
01:03 ShadowNinja xyz: Pass that then.
01:03 xyz how can binary modules be platform independent?
01:03 aldobr use .so/.dll
01:04 aldobr the entire .so/.dll is the module
01:04 Peacock .so/.dll/.icious
01:04 aldobr well, i am used to freepascal
01:04 ShadowNinja xyz: ^ They have to be compiled seperately for each platform, but there are libs for compat.  Lemme get a link...
01:04 aldobr and in freepascal the same code can become a .dll or a .so
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01:04 aldobr by fliping a compile switch (target os
01:05 aldobr dont know how they do this
01:05 kaeza aldobr, that's what configure/cmake is for...
01:05 xyz anyway, I don't really know if it's a good idea; what are the limitations of Lua api now?
01:05 ShadowNinja "Another approach is to use libltdl, which is part of GNU libtool. If you want much more functionality than this, you might want to look into a CORBA Object Request Broker (ORB)." -- http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Program-Library-HOWTO/dl-libraries.html
01:05 aldobr mainly, speed
01:05 aldobr i think
01:06 aldobr well, lets make it a xmlrpc call :D
01:06 ShadowNinja Well, that's one, but Lua can't touch a lot of things because it doesn't have access to the raw C++ classes and functions.
01:07 aldobr ShadowNinja: any api will present a limitation
01:07 aldobr example : will this api allow me to interact with the rendering directly ?
01:07 kaeza uhhh
01:08 aldobr an api is a compromise
01:08 xyz ShadowNinja: for example?
01:08 ShadowNinja aldobr: Maybe later. :-)  But Lua isn't going to have access to that any time soon.
01:08 xyz aldobr: no because it's server side
01:09 aldobr ok, but when singleplayer, server x client becomes blury, anyway it was just an example
01:09 ShadowNinja xyz: Well, the API is incomplete, until my InvRef::get/set_lists is merged that would require a C++ mod.
01:10 xyz it's a small thing
01:10 ShadowNinja It might be possible to implement alternate protocols with a mod.
01:10 aldobr i remembered something... kaeza do you have any example on how to make a lua mapgen ?
01:10 ShadowNinja Or add more Lua API functions.
01:10 zash Move the current protocol into a mod.
01:10 Peacock ask paramat :P
01:10 kaeza aldobr, no, ask nore or paramat
01:11 ShadowNinja xyz: You should also call the mod on startup.
01:11 Peacock nore use paramat's code so just go to the source :P
01:11 kaeza ^
01:11 Peacock well i think ill give up on wieldview, both versions are glitchy :(
01:13 ShadowNinja Of course, this could also make adding cheating mods easy if the API was available on the client.
01:14 xyz ShadowNinja: nah, I wanted some examples of mods, but to think about it everything can be done in Lua now
01:18 aldobr xyz: i wanted to do a growing/reducing potion mod in lua but was unable
01:18 ShadowNinja Well, sure, if you use some FFI code to somehow manually access a certain Minetest variable or function and use it...
01:18 aldobr because i cant change field of view and bounding box (etc)
01:19 ShadowNinja And even that won't work client-side.
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01:36 Inocudom Is a forum account in Freeminer forums linked to one in Minetest forums?
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01:45 ShadowNinja Inocudom: Nope.
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01:53 aldobr hi all
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02:08 Inocudom Hello.
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02:30 Sokomine hi inocudom
02:32 Inocudom Hello. I recently asked for RealBadAngel's normal generator patch to be in Freeminer.
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02:34 aldobr i hate when the rtt becomes 1337
02:41 PilzAdam bye
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02:45 Rsouthee hello
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04:12 Inocudom What is the earth icon in unified inventory?
04:13 VanessaE Worldedit GUI
04:14 Inocudom Oh. I was hoping it was a map feature. Minetest sure could use one.
04:15 Inocudom I noticed that Sokomine's areas mod's nodes are visible in the creative inventory. Is that intentional?
04:15 Peacock y u no try mapp
04:23 VanessaE I think it's intentional yeah
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05:19 VanessaE bbl
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06:10 blaise !up midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org 30000
06:10 MinetestBot midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org:30000 is up (398ms)
06:10 blaise wow, modf gives crazy lag
06:10 blaise lmao
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06:27 Miner_48er !up 197.151.93.77 30000
06:27 MinetestBot 197.151.93.77:30000 seems to be down
06:28 blaise :(
06:29 blaise woot, minetest-0.4.9 has hit gentoo portage
06:29 blaise :D
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06:29 blaise us_0gb: welcome back
06:29 us_0gb blaise: Hello!
06:30 blaise hey, if I upgrade from 0.4.8 to 0.4.9 do I need to do anything special?
06:33 ShadowNinja blaise: Nope, but if you enabled rollback the server will convert your rollback.txt on first run.
06:33 ShadowNinja (And serverlist announcing might be broken for you)
06:36 blaise it was mildly broken before.. XD
06:36 blaise sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't
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06:50 blaise upgraded and online..
06:50 blaise !up midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org 30000
06:50 MinetestBot midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org:30000 is up (552ms)
06:51 blaise and, aparently listed ?
06:53 ShadowNinja ~server --address midnight
06:53 ShadowBot ShadowNinja:  | midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org | Clients: 0/20 | Version: 0.4.9 | Ping: 0.206
06:53 ShadowNinja Yes, listed.  !up doesn't check the list.
06:57 ShadowNinja There, ShadowBot is listening now, but only replys by nick or ~ prefix.
06:58 ShadowNinja (Or ,,; or ,,(); or ??...)
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07:07 blaise k, thanks
07:07 blaise :)
07:19 ShadowNinja Now she can slap Peacock for alot. :-)
07:19 ShadowBot http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
07:22 xyz should be alоt more irritating
07:23 Peacock alot
07:23 ShadowBot http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
07:25 ShadowNinja I <3 ShadowBot. :-)
07:25 ShadowBot 04<3 ShadowNinja
07:26 us_0gb Ha ha, nice.
07:26 Peacock check out my server, its got alot of nodes
07:26 ShadowBot http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
07:26 Peacock alot of mods
07:26 ShadowBot http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
07:26 Peacock and alot of textures
07:26 ShadowBot http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
07:27 ShadowNinja ...
07:27 Peacock its your bot :P
07:27 Peacock and ive got alot of time on my hands XD
07:27 ShadowBot http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
07:27 ShadowNinja I'd appreciate if you didn't abuse it...
07:28 Peacock so... im supposed to change my writing habits because you made the bot more annoying? :P
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07:30 us_0gb Oh wow. That page is awesome.
07:31 us_0gb Peacock: You mean he made the bot alot more annoying.
07:31 ShadowBot us_0gb: http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
07:31 ShadowBot us_0gb: http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
07:31 us_0gb ShadowBot: Why twice?
07:32 Peacock it was alot more pissed that time :P
07:32 ShadowBot Peacock: http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
07:32 us_0gb Hold on, I have something cool as well.
07:32 ShadowNinja us_0gb: Duplicate MessageParser, fixed.
07:32 ShadowNinja ~admin ignore add Peacock
07:32 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: O.K.
07:32 Peacock ty :)
07:33 us_0gb http://i0.wp.com/www.mscheevious.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/1234687_10153156396165433_130892920_n.png?resize=830,817
07:33 xyz alоt <3
07:34 us_0gb http://i0.wp.com/www.mscheevious.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/1234687_10153156396165433_130892920_n.png?resize=830,817&amp;alot=not_a_word
07:35 ShadowNinja plol.
07:35 xyz what's the point of the bot if it ignores Peacock who says alоt the most
07:35 Peacock meh, when words like twerk get added to the dictionary, i figure its a matter of time before 'alot' is too :P
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07:36 Peacock the point is i can be more annoying than the bot :P
07:36 xyz alоt more annoying
07:36 xyz this is very true
07:36 ShadowNinja Hmmm, shouldn't ignore you.  But it's supposed to get the ides across, not flood the channel.
07:37 Peacock timeouts :P
07:37 xyz <3
07:37 ShadowNinja ~ping
07:37 ShadowBot pong
07:40 xyz ~Ñ€ing
07:42 ShadowNinja Hmmm, odd.  I don't see any ignores set on you...
07:43 xyz :(
07:44 us_0gb 'When I was younger, my mom would say "Sweetie, don't be afraid.  You are way bigger than a spider." Well guess what, mom?  I'm bigger than a grenade too.  Were you trying to raise me to be some sort of unconquerable war-machine that isn't even afraid of grenades?  If you were trying to do that, you failed.  I'm afraid of a lot of things that are smaller than me - like bees and wolverines and centipedes.  I'm even kind of afraid of ants a little bit. '
07:44 Peacock wuss
07:45 us_0gb Why, for being afraid of grenades? That seams reasonable to me.
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07:47 blaise lol
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07:50 Peacock seams? need new nylons? :P
07:50 Peacock and i cant picture any geek fighting a war, unless its behind some computer :P
07:50 us_0gb Nah, I don't wear anything that shows my legs.
07:51 us_0gb I don't know if she's a geek.
07:56 blaise so I upgraded my minetest server
07:56 blaise interestingly enough no one is playing..
07:56 blaise should I wipe?
07:57 blaise also, what's up with the crazy landscaping?
07:57 blaise should I get a map generator or something?
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07:59 blaise ~server --address midnight
07:59 ShadowBot blaise: Error: You don't have the #minetest,server capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
07:59 xyz lolololol
07:59 blaise wow, my bad...
07:59 xyz this shit thinks it's nickserv now?
08:00 blaise !up midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org 30000
08:00 MinetestBot midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org:30000 is up (237ms)
08:03 ShadowNinja Hmmm.  I hear they use a supybot as services on one network actually. (not that I would recommend that)
08:03 blaise I've used eggdrop for services bots on several ircd's
08:04 xyz irc is so broken D:
08:04 xyz this nickserv/chanserv shit which varies from server to server
08:05 xyz very irritating and inconvenient
08:13 ShadowNinja Capabilities fixed.  Night.
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08:21 xyz Calinou: why do you say advertising is not profitable?
08:21 Calinou where?
08:21 Calinou I mean, did you make profit from it?
08:24 xyz yes, quite some profit
08:25 xyz showing off http://i.imgur.com/Awqxkpk.png
08:26 Calinou where?
08:26 blaise I'm curious about statistics with the server
08:27 blaise top 10 lists for placing nodes, lines in chat
08:27 blaise deaths, kills
08:27 blaise :)
08:27 blaise are there mods like that?
08:27 xyz Calinou: some website
08:28 xyz which I made and now am sucking money out of people via ads D:
08:28 blaise xyz: I always authenticate via connection and connect via ssl
08:29 Calinou xyz, how much visits do you get from it?
08:29 Calinou advertising usually gives tiny amounts of money, like, 4$ per 1000 clicks of something
08:29 xyz nah, that's not how it works
08:30 xyz it's only that little only if you're running those weird ads that users can't do anything about but click
08:30 xyz pop ups, pop unders, click unders, many other words
08:30 blaise I use adblock and noscript..
08:30 xyz from my stats adsense gives me about $0.2 per click
08:31 blaise so, I don't believe anyone get's anything from me..
08:31 Calinou I do too
08:31 xyz Calinou: per month? in december there were 1068084 visits and 114340 unique visitors
08:32 xyz it's pretty popular, that's true
08:32 blaise I learned my lesson back in 1993 when I came across a popup fork bomb
08:32 Calinou yes, that's a lot of visits
08:32 blaise now I don't trust any site anywhere, ever..
08:33 Calinou I said it was not profitable unless you do it on a large scale
08:33 blaise no java, no scripts, no nothing.
08:33 xyz ah, I see
08:33 xyz I don't know what do you consider to be "a large scale" though
08:33 Calinou you should disable in-browser Java, yes
08:33 Calinou Java is not the same thing as JavaScript
08:34 xyz the more "tech-y" your website is the more users will use adblock and therefore it'll be less profitable for you
08:36 xyz meanwhile dogecoin blockchat has split
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09:01 xyz correction: you shouldn't fuck with google unless you're a startup with millions $ invested
09:03 MinetestBot GIT: Jeija commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge pull request #133 from Novatux/master 39361fb719 2014-01-05T01:01:53-08:00 http://git.io/1LAmJw
09:03 MinetestBot GIT: Novatux commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Use swap_node instead of add_node when replacing conductors. 9c2a5c313c 2014-01-05T00:52:06-08:00 http://git.io/Gi-bfA
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10:47 MinetestBot GIT: xyzz commited to minetest/minetest: Fix absence of images when compiled with RUN_IN_PLACE=0. b8c3221d55 2014-01-05T02:43:40-08:00 http://git.io/CVMYlw
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11:16 rubenwardy1 will 0.5  be after 0.4.9, or will 0.4.10 be?
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11:17 rubenwardy hmm
11:18 sfan5 rubenwardy: probably 0.5.0
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12:05 trauerlicht did somone play tome? my version starts several windows and only one is working though
12:06 sfan5 tome?
12:12 rubenwardy #askaquestionanddontrespondtoanswers
12:12 rubenwardy do you think that tag will take off?
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12:26 Megaf Hi all
12:27 rubenwardy hi Megaf!
12:27 Megaf Heres my latest server crash!
12:27 Megaf http://paste.debian.net/74363/
12:28 rubenwardy wow
12:29 Megaf It doesnt matter how updated the software and mods ares, they will aways crash
12:30 rubenwardy looks like that error would crash the server (!)
12:30 rubenwardy no software is bullet proof
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12:31 rubenwardy (is that what it is called when you excessively try...catch...?)
12:31 rubenwardy plan for every possible situation
12:39 trauerlicht sfan5: tome - a nethack like crawler
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13:15 Megaf One thing I would really like to see in minetest is a fast clearobjects
13:18 Exio4 it can't be *that* fast, it needs to load the whole map and remove the objects there
13:21 Megaf https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=124599#p124599
13:21 Megaf Exio4, or it could just read the database and clear objects
13:23 xyz it doesn't need to load anything, how can you fail to understand this is beyond me
13:24 xyz you say "xyz, please, be kind enough to /clearobjects you lazy ass" and then I reply "ok, your objects are cleared" without doing anything; and when you ask for an object I check if it should be removed and only then remove it
13:30 rubenwardy or do "delete from table object" on database.
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13:32 Megaf xyz, actually id would be nice a command like /clearfloor
13:32 Megaf just to clean all dropped stuff
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13:37 xyz rubenwardy: lol, that's not how it works
13:37 proller Megaf, FM have 146% less crashes
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13:58 rubenwardy why not, xyz? how is it stored?
14:00 xyz rubenwardy: inside blocks
14:01 xyz blocks are indexed by their serialized position which is a int64 number
14:01 xyz and inside them everything is stored: metadata, nodes, static entities
14:01 rubenwardy in the same table?
14:09 rubenwardy i'll look at dev.minetest.net
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15:23 harrison i am shy ....
15:23 * harrison blushes and bats eyelashes
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15:31 rubenwardy grrr
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15:33 nore rubenwardy, what?
15:34 rubenwardy wifi
15:34 nore that's why you were deconnecting and reconnecting?
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15:36 rubenwardy yeah
15:44 markveidemanis Hi!
15:50 nore hi
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15:52 * harrison has no question today
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15:58 * EvergreenTree pokes Jor
15:58 EvergreenTree whoops, Jordach isn't here anymore
15:58 rubenwardy My puppy is hooning around the garden in the heavy rain.
15:58 markveidemanis Moo
15:58 EvergreenTree what kind of dog is he/she?
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15:58 EvergreenTree Hey Enke
15:58 rubenwardy lurcher
15:59 rubenwardy she, "kizzy"
15:59 Enke Hi EvergreenTree.
15:59 EvergreenTree I have a 4 year old miniature schnauzer
16:00 rubenwardy i like them. kizz is 6 months. and soaking.
16:00 EvergreenTree It's a he, and his name is "Mack"
16:00 EvergreenTree lol
16:02 kaeza greetings
16:02 Enke 'ello kaeza.
16:06 rubenwardy Hi kaeza
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16:18 rubenwardy .
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16:24 hoodedice Website admins!
16:24 hoodedice PING!
16:25 hoodedice I have found a major problem with the website
16:25 xyz WHAT!?
16:25 xyz WHAT WEBSITE?
16:25 hoodedice MINETEST.NET HAS A MAJOR PROBLEM!!!
16:25 hoodedice http://minetest.net/community
16:25 xyz WHAT IS IT?
16:25 hoodedice HAS A SPELLING MISTAKE!
16:26 xyz OH GOD THAT'S AWFUL
16:26 EvergreenTree AHHHH
16:26 hoodedice IT IS INDEED GIVING ME A HEADACHE!
16:26 xyz WHERE IS IT?
16:26 * harrison dissaproves of speling errs
16:26 hoodedice *About This website*
16:27 hoodedice "admistrated by celeron55"
16:27 xyz WHERE'S THE PROBLEM?
16:27 xyz AH I SEE
16:27 hoodedice IT SHOULD BE ADMINISTRATED!
16:27 xyz I'VE FIXED IT NOW
16:27 hoodedice YAAY.
16:27 kaeza SHUT. DOWN. EVERYTHING
16:27 kahrl TAKE THE R OUT OF THE SERVER
16:28 Enke Sever! Yay!
16:28 hoodedice DESTROY ALL SERVERS!!!!
16:28 jin_xi WUT
16:28 xyz PLEASE SPEAK LOUDER, CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING
16:28 hoodedice SO SHOUT. LESS HEAR!
16:28 hoodedice AWESOME.
16:29 Enke I'm not shouting.
16:29 rubenwardy SHOUT LOUDER, I CAN'T FIND ANY ONE IN THIS ROOM! WHERE ARE YOU?
16:30 hoodedice I'M RIGHT BEHIND YOU!
16:30 hoodedice WHAT DID YOU SAY, ENKE?!
16:30 * harrison OBJECTS TO THE USE OF ALL CAPS WHICH MAKES THE CHANNEL SEEM SHOUTY
16:31 jin_xi SHUT UP
16:31 kaeza CAPS AREN'T LOUD ENOUGH
16:31 hoodedice WHAT DID YOU SAY, ENKE?!?
16:31 XYZ WHAT'S THE DEAL?
16:31 jin_xi WWW OOO WWW
16:31 hoodedice IF THE KEYS OF MY KEYBOARD ARE CAPS WHY CAN'T THE SENTENCES I TYPE BE
16:32 HOODEDICE MINETEST IS AWESOME!!!1111ONE
16:32 XYZ /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ WON’T YOU BECOME A MAGICAL GIRL?
16:32 Enke You guys are crazy.
16:32 jin_xi PLS USE CAPS
16:33 HOODEDICE *MINETEST IS DEVELOPED BY A BUNCH OF LUNATICS*
16:33 HOODEDICE GO AWAY
16:33 Enke nah, the lunacy is quite enjoyable.
16:33 RUBENWARDY !kick Enke NOT USING CAPS!
16:33 HOODEDICE +1
16:33 kaeza !KICK
16:33 HOODEDICE !BAN
16:33 XYZ THEN KILL AND EAT THE CORPSE
16:34 RUBENWARDY (IT'S FUNNY CAUSE IM NOT AN IRC MOD)
16:34 kaeza ALSO: HTTPS://GITHUB.COM/MNIIP/LUA
16:34 jin_xi KILL ALL THE CORPSES
16:34 Enke HAPPY?
16:34 kahrl !RAINBOW VERY HAPPY
16:34 HOODEDICE LETS REWRITE MINETEST
16:35 jin_xi IN CAPS
16:35 HOODEDICE IN CAPS!
16:35 Enke LET'S NOT AND SAY WE DIDN'T.
16:35 HOODEDICE SINCLEPLAYER.CPP
16:35 HOODEDICE MINETEST.REGISTER FUNCTION ()
16:35 kaeza >SINCLE
16:35 HOODEDICE I FEEL SO HAPPY
16:35 RUBENWARDY WOOOO
16:36 HOODEDICE T
16:36 Enke MEH.
16:37 jojoa1997 hi
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16:37 HOODEDICE KILL HIM!!!
16:38 HOODEDICE KILL THEM BOTH!
16:39 * Enke guards jojoa1997, and hands him a sword.
16:39 RUBENWARDY https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8171 < THE BEST MOD EVER!!!!!!?!!!
16:39 HOODEDICE INDEED!
16:42 * Enke hopes that jojoa1997 is good with swords
16:43 RUBENWARDY boring
16:45 Enke Ah. back to normal.
16:46 hoodedice Indeed.
16:47 hoodedice Hmm, now that we ARE back to normal, I will now echo what I was thinking but didn't say because awesome CAPS RAGE
16:48 hoodedice But on second thoughts, I'll just start a forum thread on this.
16:48 Enke Great...
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16:52 rubenwardy back!
16:52 rubenwardy back!
16:52 MinetestBot GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Add option to link to OpenGL ES, fixes #1051 160e2b7b7d 2014-01-05T08:50:55-08:00 http://git.io/bu_LyQ
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17:03 MinetestBot GIT: hasufell commited to minetest/minetest: BUILD: fix cmake list parsing 10eea107ed 2014-01-05T08:58:40-08:00 http://git.io/X9D5Rg
17:03 MinetestBot GIT: hasufell commited to minetest/minetest: BUILD: prefer pkg-config for freetype2 detection cb7bb736c7 2014-01-05T08:58:40-08:00 http://git.io/1Xhb0Q
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17:04 rubenwardy hoodedice, is it hoode-dice or hooded-ice?
17:04 hoodedice Second one
17:04 hoodedice hooded ice
17:04 rubenwardy ah]#
17:04 rubenwardy damn
17:04 hoodedice I always wonder
17:04 hoodedice how the heck can it be hoode dice?
17:04 hoodedice hoode?
17:05 rubenwardy hoodle/hoodie
17:05 * harrison wonders why nobody asks about the nick of harrison
17:05 hoodedice Because Harriison is a plain straight real name
17:05 rubenwardy Isn't harrison the name of a president/founding father?
17:07 * harrison sulks
17:07 kaeza george
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17:08 hoodedice_ Damn wireless
17:09 rubenwardy rube - nwardy
17:09 rubenwardy obvously
17:09 hoodedice_ *obviously
17:09 hoodedice_ Indeed.
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17:19 * rubenwardy LOVES writing psuedocode for computing coursework
17:19 markveidemanis yay#]
17:20 kaeza pseudocode is for pussies
17:20 kaeza same as comments, documentation, and indentation
17:20 rubenwardy pseudocode is for A Level computing
17:20 rubenwardy I want to get a good grade
17:20 rubenwardy flow charts next.
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17:22 hoodedice pseudocode?
17:22 rubenwardy !g pseudocode
17:22 MinetestBot rubenwardy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudocode
17:23 hoodedice oh thank you
17:23 Peacock kaeza add to that planning, Q&A, and bugfixing lol
17:24 hoodedice plol
17:26 kaeza Peacock, http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/16639/please-give-me-fibonacci-sequence-the-code/16696#16696
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17:29 Inocudom https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=124631#p124631
17:29 hoodedice Hai Inocudom
17:29 hoodedice See
17:29 hoodedice my PM?
17:29 hoodedice Anyway...
17:30 hoodedice I was thinking of a Minetest mag
17:30 Inocudom Hello. That link goes to a forum post about player models that could have layers for clothes as well.
17:31 hoodedice I've seen that earlier too
17:31 hoodedice But I'm not a modeler, nor do I know much about it
17:31 hoodedice So I didn't say anything
17:31 Inocudom A Minetest magazine? What exactly will that constitute?
17:31 hoodedice Development news, community creations
17:31 hoodedice Mod reviews
17:32 hoodedice quaterly
17:32 hoodedice .pdf format
17:32 hoodedice First issue could be out by March if we start by February
17:33 Inocudom That sounds like a good idea if you are able to do it. oOChainLynxOo, Sokomine, and others might be good help there.
17:33 hoodedice Yeah, but you are a pretty active member too
17:33 hoodedice You were the first name that popped up in my head
17:33 Calinou make a "fanfic" section, with Boris' fanfics in, on page 3
17:33 hoodedice Oh hail no!
17:33 * Calinou gallops away
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17:34 hoodedice Inocudom: did you read that crap?
17:34 Inocudom Indeed, I am. My best contribution is to give advice on what could be covered.
17:34 Inocudom I glanced at it. I normally don't read fan fiction that much.
17:34 hoodedice Hey john_minetest
17:35 hoodedice So are you with me on this Inoducom?
17:36 Inocudom If I can aid you, yes. I can give advice and seek out other Minetest members that could be helpful.
17:36 Inocudom I can even take pictures of things.
17:36 Calinou john_minetest, no thanks
17:36 Calinou john_minetest, we don't want to replicate Minecraft or the legal system of the US
17:37 hoodedice *legal system of the US*
17:37 hoodedice profl
17:37 Inocudom Calinou, I think the following would be a good additon to Minetest (even if starting as a mod:)https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=124631#p124631
17:38 hoodedice That's great then, I'll be planning the content. Be sure to keep checking your Forum PMs
17:38 Inocudom Okay.
17:39 Inocudom Make a PM to oOChainLynxOo too. He might be interested.
17:40 hoodedice As soon as this project becomes less liquidy, I'll bug everyone else who might be helpful
17:40 rubenwardy A magazine sound nice.
17:41 hoodedice Later peeps
17:41 Inocudom Glad to see your interest, rubenwardy.
17:42 rubenwardy You could do competition stuff, like go around servers and decide which buildings are the best, then publish them
17:42 rubenwardy Terrible idea
17:42 Inocudom Rubenwardy, how would you feel about the idea in the following post: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=124631#p124631
17:43 rubenwardy You wont be able to see it unless you are on multiplayer, and if you are on multiplayer, an extra bit of lag won't make much difference.
17:44 rubenwardy (Foresight: how shocked they were when it crashed the server)
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17:44 Inocudom Mirrors or a 3rd person view might allow you to see it. BlockMen is working on 3rd person view.
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17:44 rubenwardy I don't play minetest that much any more, anyway
17:44 rubenwardy Technically, I don't even have Minetest any more, I have Freeminer.
17:44 Inocudom I just hope it is better than what is in Minecraft.
17:44 rubenwardy hmmm
17:44 rubenwardy That is the aim
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17:45 rubenwardy Yo, PilzAdam!
17:45 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
17:45 Inocudom So, you play Freeminer now?
17:45 MrBeNNy I smell a traitor.
17:45 rubenwardy Pretty much the same, but with more features and more optimisation
17:45 MrBeNNy and my nose is clogged...
17:45 rubenwardy Quite a lot of server owners use freeminer now.
17:46 rubenwardy (I am not a server owneR)
17:47 Inocudom I also play Freeminer. It is, for the most part, an improvement. However, there needs to be an option to turn dirt, sand, desert sand flowing off for the sake of creative servers (and for weather to not make messes.)
17:48 Inocudom VanessaE gave Freeminer a try, but stated that it has high RAM usage (thus she does not use it.) Also, she doesn't like the dirt/sand/desert sand flowing due to flowing water.
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17:49 Inocudom VanessaE has her own chat channel, but I don't know how to get it to appear.
17:50 rubenwardy /join?
17:50 rubenwardy :P
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17:56 proller Inocudom, flowing dirt/.... will be configurable in 1-3 hours..
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17:56 proller needed for crazy math maps ;)
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17:59 kaeza Inocudom, try this: https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.inchra.net:+6697/#minetest
18:01 kaeza (or get a real IRC client)
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18:05 rubenwardy pseudo done!
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18:11 ShadowNinja ^ That requires JS, if you have it disabled.
18:12 rubenwardy grrrrr
18:12 rubenwardy I managed to delete YAMM
18:15 Peacock http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080906215755/color/images/d/d7/Yam-586.jpg
18:19 rubenwardy Yet Another Mob Mod
18:19 rubenwardy The mod I was making
18:20 Peacock we could have dozen mob mods, doesn't alter the fact that entities suck :P
18:22 FreeFull rubenwardy: That's why you keep backups and version control
18:22 harrison back it on up like  a uhaul truck
18:23 FreeFull Just put it up on github. Might as well.
18:24 Peacock bad analogy lol there are many reports that alot of uhaul trucks aren't roadworthy :P
18:25 FreeFull Code initially isn't either =P
18:26 Peacock touche lol
18:26 rubenwardy I am going to focus on useful mobs, rather than monsters
18:26 Peacock slave labour? :D
18:30 xyz extundelete
18:30 xyz ^^^^^ that requires HTML, if you have it disabled
18:30 xyz (not extundelete but the link posted earlier)
18:33 rubenwardy sheep, chickens, dogs, cats, pigs, etc
18:34 rubenwardy is it possible to do:     a = {}; b = { a = a};  a.b = b;
18:34 rubenwardy in lua
18:35 rubenwardy Or a = { b = {} }; a.b.a = a;
18:36 kaeza yes
18:36 kaeza why not?
18:36 Inocudom Good mob ideas rubenwardy.
18:36 rubenwardy Very original
18:36 rubenwardy meh
18:37 Inocudom And yes, entities do need to be improved. But how would that be achieved?
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18:38 ni212893 hi guys
18:39 kaeza hi
18:39 ni212893 btw its playzooki, trying to get this app to work :)
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18:39 rubenwardy I use rice irc on Android
18:39 Peacock inoc, no idea :P but id rather make nodebox static animals until they are lol
18:40 rubenwardy bored of YAMM, doing ctf
18:40 Inocudom Did sapier add your animals to mobf yet? He should.
18:40 playzooki test
18:41 kaeza test failed
18:41 rubenwardy No cats, irrc
18:41 rubenwardy iirc
18:41 rubenwardy <X> iirc, it's iirc, not irrc
18:42 MrBeNNy iirc :(
18:42 playzooki does this work or am i still niwhatever
18:42 rubenwardy Works, playzooki.
18:42 rubenwardy <MrBeNNy> iirc :(
18:42 rubenwardy <playzooki> does this work or am i still niwhatever
18:42 rubenwardy <rubenwardy> Works, playzooki.
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18:45 rubenwardy Capture the flag is the best game for Minetest ever, imo
18:45 rubenwardy (lol)
18:45 MrBeNNy iirc - if I remember correctly
18:45 MrBeNNy ydrc - you dont remember correctly
18:46 rubenwardy made up?
18:46 MrBeNNy wtfc - who the f*k cares :D
18:46 playzooki something i didnt know ;)
18:46 kaeza internet internet relay chat
18:46 * kaeza hides
18:46 MrBeNNy I am making stuff up.
18:46 rubenwardy MrBeNNy.memory.dump("acronims")
18:47 MrBeNNy MrBeNNy.non-paged.area.fault.bucket - dmp.error 101
18:47 rubenwardy john_minetest.get_personality().get_attribute("immature")
18:47 rubenwardy > returned true
18:47 Peacock lol
18:47 MrBeNNy mov [101], eax push eax
18:47 rubenwardy heh
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18:48 zash int 80h
18:48 MrBeNNy POP!
18:48 rubenwardy delete MrBeNNy; MrBeNNy = NULL;
18:48 playzooki if playzooki = "immature" print YES
18:48 rubenwardy *==
18:48 MrBeNNy Cannot divide by 0.
18:49 * playzooki sucks at coding
18:49 * MrBeNNy makes a lot of stuff up, fails at being cool.
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18:50 playzooki print hi
18:50 playzooki because batch is awesome
18:51 kaeza OUT &h64, &hFE
18:52 xyz import __hello__
18:52 rubenwardy github is shit
18:52 kaeza why?
18:53 rubenwardy I try updating capturetheflag from minetest_game, and it comes up with changes of ""
18:53 rubenwardy It commits even though no lines are added, and no lines are taken away
18:53 playzooki lol i should put my topkek thing on github
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18:54 rubenwardy How do I delete the "merge from..." commits here? https://github.com/rubenwardy/capturetheflag/commits/master
18:55 rubenwardy Ie, go back to "Add stats mod by Pilz@dam"
18:56 kaeza rubenwardy, git reset HEAD~ncommits ; git push -f
18:56 rubenwardy uh?
18:56 PilzAdam rubenwardy, git reset --hard 20bfe36110c40646bd6b2ab9db4727d220f23e16
18:57 kaeza oh, and next time use rebase :P
18:57 rubenwardy done, thanks
18:57 rubenwardy Now, how to I only update stuff that has changed from minetest_game?
18:58 rubenwardy (Ie: get github to ignore file modified signitures, and check file contents instead)
18:59 rubenwardy nm
18:59 xyz do you plan to modify mods from minetest_game?
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19:00 rubenwardy no
19:00 rubenwardy just get the newest versions
19:01 rubenwardy done anyway
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19:12 rubenwardy ok, I am not using freeminer anymore: there is no console
19:12 Peacock maybe just they moved ze button
19:13 Peacock *they just
19:14 rubenwardy bye all
19:15 rubenwardy well
19:15 rubenwardy not really bye, since i have IRC on my phone
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19:16 rubenwardy backh
19:16 xyz what console are you talking about?
19:16 rubenwardy mt console
19:16 xyz the F10 one still works
19:16 xyz are there any others?
19:16 rubenwardy thats thr chat screen
19:17 kaeza maybe he means the windows console
19:17 Peacock f10 brings up the console on my mt
19:17 Inocudom I wish there was a server that had sapier's monorail mod on it. That mod needs support.]
19:17 xyz ah
19:17 rubenwardy i meant the black cli
19:17 rubenwardy yeah, kaeza
19:17 xyz yeah, I removed it from windows because
19:17 rubenwardy most players dont need it, but mod devs do
19:18 xyz you have debug log
19:18 kaeza also real devs use linux
19:18 kaeza :D
19:18 rubenwardy i have linux
19:18 Peacock real devs use punchcards
19:18 xyz then why are you complaining?
19:19 rubenwardy All my coursework is on windows, and i don't want to reboot.
19:19 rubenwardy i have win and linux
19:19 kahrl move the coursework to linux?
19:19 Broam It's probably some proprietary windows-only program, because universities are short-sighted like that
19:19 rubenwardy i use a win only program
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19:19 rubenwardy ^^
19:19 Broam ahem
19:19 Broam lose only program
19:20 kahrl ah that stinks
19:20 xyz rubenwardy: I guess you could submit an issue and then I'll maybe make this a run-time option (if i figure how to, lol)
19:20 Peacock lol or maybe companies don't want to support dozens of different distros so they only write a win version :P
19:20 xyz http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms683150(v=vs.85).aspx I guess?
19:20 Peacock god knows the UPS software was written for win95 lol
19:21 playzooki windows ninety fiiiive, its taking up all my driiive :P
19:22 Peacock well what do you expect, they're in it for the money :P theyre not gonna write several versions to assuage the conscience and please the politics of a minority of users :P
19:22 Peacock sometimes it works in wine, othertimes you can use a VM
19:22 xyz lol
19:22 xyz why you even do that
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19:23 trauerlicht bye
19:24 xyz why do people post stuff like that on forums? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8208 this only makes us look stupid :(
19:24 xyz also don't forget to attach a meme to your post, like it wasn't bad enough
19:25 Peacock its not like the logs aren't accessible anyways :P
19:25 xyz it also ate spaces in "WON’T YOU BECOME A MAGICAL GIRL?"
19:25 xyz but when people check irc logs I guess they expect shit like this
19:25 kaeza >haters will hate
19:25 kaeza >can't meme
19:25 xyz but when other people show off that just looks stupid, I think
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19:32 playzooki yay
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19:36 blaise how do these maps work?
19:36 Peacock CLI i think
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19:37 kaeza blaise, there's util/minetest-mapper.py, and a C++ implementation of it
19:37 kaeza (if that's what you are talking about)
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19:48 rubenwardy1 huh
19:48 blaise kaeza: is that better than the internal map gen that we modify minetest.conf to change?
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19:48 rubenwardy1 .
19:49 rubenwardy1 .
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19:54 EvergreenTree o/
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20:15 Peacock ive had decent results with landrush/landclaim mod
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20:26 xyz PilzAdam: how does it feel being on a list?
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20:35 sfan5 oh, it got merged
20:35 sfan5 hi everyone BTW
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20:36 Peacock BTW = Bring The Wine?
20:36 Peacock :P
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20:36 harrison i deny being a bot. this vicious rumor must be quashed at once!
20:37 playzooki wait whats going on
20:37 sfan5 !tw @freenodestaff
20:37 sfan5 oh god what the fuck
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20:39 playzooki what john said
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20:39 sfan5 why didn't I enable notices..
20:39 sfan5 was it +i ?
20:39 PilzAdam sfan5, op party?
20:40 playzooki yay party
20:41 sfan5 PilzAdam: tell ChanServ to go
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20:48 harrison 12,04|  ___ __ _| | |  _ __ ___   ___                                 |
20:48 harrison 12,04| / __/ _` | | | | '_ ` _ \ / _ \                                |
20:48 harrison 12,04|| (_| (_| | | | | | | | | |  __/                                |
20:48 harrison was kicked by ShadowBot: Paste flood detected. Use a pastebin like pastebin.ubuntu.com or gist.github.com.
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20:48 playzooki lel
20:48 harrison man
20:48 khonkhortisan I can't read the bottom of that
20:49 harrison the system is always oppressing true genius
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20:49 khonkhortisan I thought this channel didn't have colours
20:49 sfan5 it does
20:49 sfan5 !rainbow I even has rainbows! yay, nyan~
20:49 MinetestBot 4I4 4e7v7e7n8 8h8a3s3 3rain6b6o6ws! 4y4a4y7,7 7n8y8a8n3~
20:49 PilzAdam the system is never oppressing _true_ genius
20:49 sfan5 s/I/It/
20:49 harrison you aren't supposed to admit that you notice color differences
20:49 playzooki rainbowz
20:50 sfan5 meanwhile xchat still displays 2's as small bars
20:50 MinetestBot 44​04​97N7Y7A8N8 8N3Y3A3N
20:50 khonkhortisan !rainbow ʍoquᴉɐɹ¡
20:50 MinetestBot 4ʍ4o4q7u7ᴉ7ɐ8ɹ8¡
20:50 harrison !rainbow polychromatic marsupial
20:50 MinetestBot 4p4o4l7y7c7h8r8o8m3a3t3ic m6a6r6supi4a4l
20:50 khonkhortisan haha caught the color code
20:51 MinetestBot 44​04​97T7h7i8s8 8t3e3x3t is6 6g6reen4.4 4B7u7t7 8r8a8i3n3b3ow m6a6k6es i4t4 4c7o7l7o8r8f8u3l3!
20:51 playzooki 2yay
20:51 MinetestBot 4D4e4s7o7x7y8r8i8b3o3n3ukle6i6n6säur4e4!
20:52 playzooki blueee
20:52 xyz !rainbow ♪┏(・o・)┛♪┗ ( ・o・) ┓♪┏ ( ) ┛♪┗ (・o・ ) ┓♪┏(・o・)┛♪
20:52 MinetestBot 4♪4┏4(7・7o7・8)8┛8♪3┗3 3( ・o6・6)6 ┓♪┏4 4(4 7)7 7┛8♪8┗8 3(3・3o・ )6 6┓6♪┏(・4o4・4)7┛7♪
20:52 * khonkhortisan changed his nick colour
20:53 xyz !rainbow FABULOUS
20:53 MinetestBot 4F4A4B7U7L7O8U8S
20:53 harrison Edith Nesbit (married name Edith Bland; 15 August 1858 – 4 May 1924) was an English author and poet; she published her books for children under the name of E. Nesbit.
20:53 xyz !rainbow F A B U L O U S
20:53 MinetestBot 4F4 4A7 7B7 8U8 8L3 3O3 U S
20:53 playzooki 2h3o4w5 2 6r6a7i8n9bow?????
20:53 sfan5 !rainbow  Edith Nesbit (married name Edith Bland; 15 August 1858 – 4 May 1924) was an English author and poet; she published her books for children under the name of E. Nesbit.
20:53 harrison !rainbow polychromatic marsupial
20:53 MinetestBot 4p4o4l7y7c7h8r8o8m3a3t3ic m6a6r6supi4a4l
20:53 sfan5 damnit MinetestBot
20:53 MinetestBot 4E4d4i7t7h7 8N8e8s3b3i3t (m6a6r6ried4 4n4a7m7e7 8E8d8i3t3h3 Bla6n6d6; ​1​54 4A4u7g7u7s8t8 8​13​83​53​8 – 6​46 6May 4​14​94​27​47)7 8w8a8s3 3a3n En6g6l6ish 4a4u4t7h7o7r8 8a8n3d3 3poet6;6 6she 4p4u4b7l7i7s8h8e8d3 3h3er b6o6o6ks f4o
20:53 sfan5 it that so hard?
20:54 playzooki !rainbow playzooki
20:54 MinetestBot 4p4l4a7y7z7o8o8k8i
20:54 playzooki yay
20:54 MinetestBot 4p4l4a7y7z7o8o8k8i3:3 3It i6s6 6easy4!4!4!
20:55 khonkhortisan !rainbow ʍoquᴉɐɹ¡
20:55 MinetestBot 4ʍ4o4q7u7ᴉ7ɐ8ɹ8¡
20:55 sfan5 !help
20:55 sfan5 MinetestBot!
20:55 sfan5 !help
20:55 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
20:55 harrison Sir Robert Bruce Cotton, 1st Baronet (22 January 1570/1 – 6 May 1631) was an English antiquarian, member of parliament and founder of the cotton library.
20:55 MinetestBot sfan5!
20:55 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
20:56 sfan5 -.-
20:56 sfan5 !help
20:56 sfan5 wtf MinetestBot
20:56 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
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20:56 playzooki lol
20:56 sfan5 !rev https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
20:56 MinetestBot dm.SDNAMMOC/retsam/bolb/seludom-tobtsetenim/5nafs/moc.buhtig//:sptth
20:56 sfan5 way better
20:56 playzooki !rainbow whoop... whoop...
20:56 MinetestBot 4w4h4o7o7p7.8.8.8 3w3h3oop.6.6.
20:58 xyz woop woop
20:58 xyz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0McRELVKCIs
20:58 playzooki how2/h
20:58 sfan5 ShadowBot is gone, 1 step closer to op party!
20:58 sfan5 !help
20:58 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
20:58 playzooki how2whoop???
20:58 sfan5 oop..
20:58 sfan5 !title
20:58 MinetestBot sfan5: WOOP WOOP for 10 minutes - YouTube
20:58 xyz woop woop
20:58 playzooki lol
20:58 playzooki wooooooop
20:58 sfan5 lol
20:59 xyz meanwhile the second season is approaching
21:02 us_0gb !say !say !say test
21:03 us_0gb !rainbow !rainbow test
21:03 MinetestBot 4!4r4a7i7n7b8o8w8 3t3e3st
21:03 us_0gb !4r4a7i7n7b8o8w8 3t3e3st
21:03 EvergreenTree !say something
21:03 sfan5 minetestbot doesn't get sent it's own commands by the irc server
21:04 us_0gb Okay, that's all I wanted to know. Thanks sfan5!
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21:07 xyz but if we put two minetestbots
21:07 xyz in one tiny channel
21:08 playzooki lol
21:08 playzooki i once made a bot for this terrible chat thingy
21:08 playzooki good times were had
21:08 us_0gb Yeah, but ShadowBot shuts off when MinetestBot is around.
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21:09 us_0gb "Shuts off" is the wrong phrase, but you know what I mean.
21:09 xyz rip am-i-kawaii
21:09 xyz 2013-2013
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21:10 xyz fun was had
21:10 playzooki lol
21:25 fmcd anyone running the skindb mod?
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21:29 MinetestBot 4M4i4n7e7t7e8s8t8B3o3t3!
21:31 playzooki bye guys
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21:32 xyz sfan5: why the fuck do you plan to watch nekomonogatari without watching bake and nise first?
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21:35 xyz that's wrong, you're supposed to watch in the order they aired
21:35 xyz well you could call it that
21:36 xyz the "ultralight girl" is the first story
21:36 Peacock i wonder, could we get on_prejoin to give us the user's ping as well?
21:36 xyz inb4 Peacock bans users with too high ping
21:36 xyz inb4 "i wonder, could we get on_prejoin to give us the user's skin color as well?"
21:37 Peacock well skin color you can't change (except for michael jackson, but he's rich) ping is entirely the user's fault though :P
21:37 xyz "it's your fault for living in that shithole"
21:38 xyz "for being born in that shithole"
21:38 xyz "you're not allowed to have fun on this server, go away"
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21:38 xyz what the hell do you need users' ping though?
21:39 Peacock lol is that what officials say in Russia? http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/13/world/europe/russia-steps-up-raids-against-migrants.html?pagewanted=all&amp;_r=0
21:39 xyz oh god https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8211
21:40 xyz Peacock: tldr
21:40 xyz russia is the best country ever
21:40 Peacock relevant bit: "At last count nearly 1,500 foreigners had been detained"
21:41 Peacock i guess its their fault for being born in a shithole :P
21:43 xyz that's normal, this is true
21:44 Peacock well you cant really control where people are born, what you can control is users taking up slots on a server yet not being able to do much because their ping is sky high
21:45 Peacock and its alot better than restricting access to 1 or 2 continents
21:46 xyz but... illegal immigrants... are called illegal immigrants for a reason...
21:46 xyz oh well
21:47 Peacock well yeah, they're desperate to get away from said shitholes, can't really blame em for trying
21:47 xyz if only they lived in peace
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21:48 Peacock well when it comes to the middle east yeah, though in other parts of the world its simply shitty economy + corruption
21:48 xyz they told me not to click the link http://www.dreamcreation.co.jp/stpl/
21:49 xyz oh I'm so sorry
21:49 ShadowNinja us_0gb: Actually I changes that, but ShadowBot only listens for ~ ?? ,, and ,,() now.
21:50 ShadowNinja changed*
21:50 us_0gb Ah, got it. SO to set them up, we'd need to alternate syntaxes back and forth.
21:53 xyz ,,(say !tell ShadowBot ,,(say !rainbow dongs))
21:53 ShadowBot xyz: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
21:53 ShadowNinja ~help echo
21:53 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: (echo <text>) -- Returns the arguments given it. Uses our standard substitute on the string(s) given to it; $nick (or $who), $randomNick, $randomInt, $botnick, $channel, $user, $host, $today, $now, and $randomDate are all handled appropriately.
21:53 xyz hmmmmmm.. I'm afraid the bot is broken
21:53 xyz it thinks it's NickServ
21:53 ShadowNinja ~help say
21:53 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: (say <channel|nick> <text>) -- Sends <text> to <channel|nick>. Can only send to <nick> if supybot.plugins.Anonymous.allowPrivateTarget is True.
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21:54 ShadowNinja That requires the owner capability.
21:54 xyz ,,(echo !tell ShadowBot ,,(echo !rainbow dongs))
21:54 ShadowBot !tell ShadowBot ,,(echo !rainbow dongs
21:54 MinetestBot You can tell that to yourself
21:54 xyz ah
21:54 xyz can it do title?
21:54 xyz ~help title
21:54 ShadowBot xyz: (title <an alias, 0 arguments>) -- Alias for "cif <ceq <countargs $*> 0> "web title <url last>" "web title"".
21:55 ShadowNinja Yep, That makes it default to <url last> if you don't specify arguments.
21:55 ShadowNinja ~title
21:55 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: Error: 'An error has occurred and has been logged. Check the logs for more informations.' is not a valid http url.
21:56 ShadowNinja Hmmm...
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21:56 xyz !title http://best.girl.never.wins.xyz.is/b.html
21:56 MinetestBot xyz: ~title http://best.girl.never.wins.xyz.is/a.html
21:56 xyz ~title http://best.girl.never.wins.xyz.is/a.html
21:56 ShadowBot xyz: web title [--no-filter] <url>
21:56 xyz ~title --no-filter http://best.girl.never.wins.xyz.is/a.html
21:56 ShadowBot xyz: web title [--no-filter] <url>
21:57 xyz uhh?
21:57 xyz ,,(title http://best.girl.never.wins.xyz.is/a.html)
21:57 ShadowBot xyz: web title [--no-filter] <url>
21:57 ShadowNinja Oh...
21:58 xyz doesn't werk D:
21:58 xyz ~help commands
21:58 ShadowBot xyz: (commands takes no arguments) -- Returns a list of the commands offered by the bot.
21:58 xyz ~commands
21:58 ShadowBot xyz: add, alert, announce, announce add, announce remove, aol, apply, apropos, author, azn, ban add, ban list, ban remove, base, bf, binary, bold, brainfuck, cache, calc, call, cand, capabilities, capability add, capability list, capability remove, capability set, capability setdefault, capability unset, capitalize, ceq, change, changename, channel, channeldb, channels, channelstats, (6 more messages)
21:59 xyz ~more
21:59 ShadowBot xyz: checksyntax, chr, cif, clear, clearq, cmd, coin, collect, color, colorize, command, commands, commas, completenick, concat, config, connect, contributors, convert, cor, countargs, cpu, crypt, cut, cxor, cycle, decode, default, defaultcapability, defaultplugin, dehalfop, deop, derplangplus, dev, devoice, dice, disable, disconnect, do, doctype, dp, driver, dump, echo, eightball, enable, (5 more messages)
21:59 ShadowNinja ,,(aka remove title) ,,(aka add title "cif <ceq <countargs $*> 0> \"web title <url last>\" \"web title $*\"")
21:59 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: O.K.
21:59 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: Error: There can be only one $* in an alias.
22:00 xyz ,,(web title http://best.girl.never.wins.xyz.is/a.html)
22:00 ShadowBot xyz: !title http://best.girl.never.wins.xyz.is/b.html
22:01 xyz !title http://best.girl.never.wins.xyz.is/b.html
22:01 MinetestBot xyz: ,,(web title http://best.girl.never.wins.xyz.is/a.html)
22:01 ShadowBot MinetestBot: !title http://best.girl.never.wins.xyz.is/b.html
22:01 xyz aww shit
22:02 xyz ~help bold
22:02 ShadowBot xyz: (bold <text>) -- Returns <text> bolded.
22:02 xyz ~bold dongs
22:02 ShadowBot xyz: dongs
22:02 ShadowNinja It does have auto-ignores...
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22:03 ShadowNinja ~admin ignore add MinetestBot!*@*
22:03 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: O.K.
22:04 xyz wait, i didn't even have any fun
22:04 xyz meeeh
22:04 xyz well well
22:04 xyz ShadowNinja: where's your bot source?
22:06 ShadowNinja ~source
22:06 ShadowBot My source is at https://github.com/ProgVal/Limnoria -- Custom plugins are at https://github.com/ShadowNinja/Limnoria-plugins
22:06 xyz I thought `def interjection` will print RMS quote
22:08 pitriss https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=124664 //spam
22:09 ShadowNinja xyz: ^
22:10 xyz sfan5's rainbow is non-optimal
22:10 xyz uses too many characters
22:11 xyz wtf is zero-width space
22:11 xyz useless crap
22:13 xyz how many "mobs" mods do we have?
22:14 xyz there's mobf by sapier, mobs by PilzAdam, any other?
22:14 xyz also PilzAdam still haven't fixed the bug I reported so I guess his mod is deprecated
22:14 xyz real?
22:14 PilzAdam xyz, the bug is not worth to be fixed
22:15 xyz oh well, I just wanted to create a non-jumping mob but now I cannot :(
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22:15 xyz you can fix this bug even from github interface
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22:23 fmcd is there a way to restrict players frmo being able to kill other players?
22:24 xyz enable_pvp=false
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22:24 xyz in minetest.conf
22:25 fmcd awesome thanks
22:27 sfan5 xyz: \x032<number> does not always produce a colored <number>
22:27 xyz then it probably should only do this for numbers?
22:27 xyz or maybe there's some other trick?
22:27 sfan5 yeah, it should
22:27 sfan5 I don't know any other trick
22:27 xyz and then it seems you add escape code every character?
22:28 xyz well you can check how your irc client handles this
22:29 sfan5 escape code every char?
22:29 sfan5 also it only does the zero width space thing for numbers
22:29 sfan5 "if c in list(str(i) for i in range(10)): [....]"
22:30 xyz lol dat code
22:30 xyz anyway
22:30 xyz check how your irc client does "\x032<number> does not always produce a colored <number>"
22:31 sfan5 well..
22:31 sfan5 if the numbers after \x03 form a valid color code it does not work
22:32 xyz yes but what an irc client does in that case?
22:33 sfan5 if it is \x0312n it makes an 'n' with color 12
22:34 sfan5 wait..
22:34 sfan5 bo
22:34 sfan5 s/bo//
22:34 fwilson like this
22:34 sfan5 if it is \x0312 it produces nothing
22:34 fwilson oh that's how you color text
22:34 fwilson sorry :P
22:34 sfan5 what I want is a 2 with color 1
22:35 sfan5 !rainbow fwilson: do you like rainbows?
22:35 MinetestBot 4f4w4i7l7s7o8n8:8 3d3o3 you6 6l6ike 4r4a4i7n7b7o8w8s8?
22:35 MinetestBot 4r4a4i7n7b7o8w8s8 3a3r3e co6o6l6.
22:35 fwilson ,07M,08i,13n,12e,10t,07e,04s,02t,08B,10o,11t,06: ,10Y,07e,11s ,09I ,09d,11o,09.
22:35 fwilson ,11t,08r,12u,11h ,13s,11e,03y,02e ,10r,08u,08o,13y ,12e,11k,03a,02m ,03y,06e,06h,13t ,06n,04e,12h,11w ,10y,08l,10l,02a,07i,03c,02e,07p,02s,07e ,10t,13s,09e,12t,13e,13n,08i,09m,10_,09n,12h,02o,06j
22:35 fwilson :D
22:35 fwilson okay i'll stop now
22:35 xyz meh
22:35 xyz that's why I asked
22:35 MinetestBot fwilson: that's nice! :D
22:35 xyz [02:32:07] <xyz> yes but what an irc client does in that case?
22:35 zash You'll all go to IRC hell
22:36 xyz zash: it's deprecated anyway
22:36 sfan5 !rev truh seye ruoy ekam yeht nehw yllaicepse tsetenim_nhoj
22:36 MinetestBot john_minetest especially when they make your eyes hurt
22:36 sfan5 mhm
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22:56 Peacock layoff the gin :P
22:57 ShadowNinja ~reverse <last --from john_minetest --in #minetest>
22:57 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: Error: The command "reverse" is available in the Filter and Format plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "reverse".
22:58 ShadowNinja ~filter reverse <last --from john_minetest --in #minetest>
22:58 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: muuuud mud mud
22:58 ShadowNinja Gah.
22:59 ShadowNinja Gah.
22:59 ShadowNinja ~filter reverse <last --from john_minetest --in #minetest>
22:59 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: john_minetest especially when they make your eyes hurt
22:59 ShadowBot john_minetest: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
22:59 MinetestBot john_minetest!
22:59 EvergreenTree <3 Miner_48er
22:59 MinetestBot 4~4s4a7y7 7l8o8l
22:59 EvergreenTree whoops
23:00 EvergreenTree <3 MinetestBot
23:00 MinetestBot <3 EvergreenTree
23:00 ShadowNinja <3 ShadowBot. :-)
23:00 ShadowBot 04<3 ShadowNinja.
23:00 EvergreenTree ooh, fancy
23:00 fwilson is there an equivalent of the minecraft /kick in minetest?
23:01 Peacock <cat>No</cat>
23:01 fwilson ok
23:01 ShadowNinja fwilson: A temporary ban.
23:01 fwilson hmmm... okay
23:01 Peacock or a function that goes ban and unban
23:01 Peacock a disconnect(playername) function would be nice though
23:02 Peacock with an optional message like prejoin
23:03 * fwilson should write one sometime
23:17 fwilson :P
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23:49 PilzAdam bye
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23:56 Peacock there must be a build out there where the username is always Admin, because im getting Admins from all over the world :p
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