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haven't tried it. |
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EHLO |
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OldCoder: how's the survival going? |
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reactor |
Hello everybrony. |
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reactor |
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reactor |
My big face when I look at you with disgust. |
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Hello |
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Progers: hi |
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xming |
hi how do I generate a new world with "minetestserver" ? |
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xming |
ah I need to mkdir world |
11:26 |
reactor |
Mesecons developers, y u no give direct link on your site? |
11:26 |
reactor |
I had to enable goddamn jscript to access it! |
11:27 |
xming |
I don't need js to access the site |
11:29 |
reactor |
Oh. |
11:29 |
reactor |
Somehow, I had to enable it in order to get the button to work. |
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reactor |
Why have to use those awful buttons if it can be done with simple links? |
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specing |
proller: the sky stargate really needs fixing |
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specing |
proller: its deactivated |
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specing |
I died and now I can't reach 0,0,0 :( |
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pitriss |
john_minetest: those buttons really don't work without JS.. And the same look can be reached also with CSS styled links.. so reactors idea is valid:) |
11:33 |
pitriss |
<input type="button" class = "button" value = "Download" onclick="window.open('https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/zipball/master')"> //this will not work without JS |
11:33 |
pitriss |
window.open is JS :) |
11:35 |
pitriss |
Nope.. this is just js code.. i was webcoder some years ago.. and this will not work on browsers without JS |
11:36 |
pitriss |
so these buttons are really shitty:) They can be done via CSS.. IDK noscript but try to turn off JS completely |
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thexyz |
shit I also had to enable TCP/IP, HTTP, dns, html AND css to access your stupid site |
11:36 |
thexyz |
what the fuck? |
11:37 |
pitriss |
thexyz: maybe someone will want to download it from their site with text based browser which doesn't support js?:) |
11:37 |
pitriss |
common situation on servers without xserver/fb:) |
11:37 |
thexyz |
yeah those people tend to whine the most ignoring the fact no one cares about supporting those browsers |
11:38 |
thexyz |
on server you just wget the url you got from browsing your site with your usual browser |
11:39 |
reactor |
Yes, but in order to wget you have to know the link clearly. |
11:39 |
reactor |
Also, some people disable js in their browser. |
11:39 |
reactor |
Including me. |
11:40 |
pitriss |
thexyz: heh okay.. but why when I'm on mesecons.net I need to browse source of that page instead right click on buttona and select "copy link"? |
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thexyz |
yeah and they expect site owners to care which is strange |
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reactor |
I don't want to waste CPU cycles on unnecessary shit that could be done properly. |
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reactor |
s/done/avoided if things are being done/ |
11:40 |
thexyz |
then please don't talk it here |
11:40 |
thexyz |
because you just do that |
11:41 |
thexyz |
muh cpu cycles |
11:41 |
thexyz |
muh waste |
11:41 |
thexyz |
anyway, the fact that it requires js to download is really strange |
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thexyz |
but I'm afraid you can't do anything but whine because Jeija is missing D: |
11:42 |
pitriss |
thexyz: that button thing is bad.. you can't copy link from there in some normal way.. browsing source code isn't really normal |
11:42 |
thexyz |
pitriss: you click it and then copy it from your downloads |
11:42 |
reactor |
I'm not whihing. |
11:42 |
thexyz |
if you really want to |
11:42 |
thexyz |
"I'm not whining, I'm complaining" |
11:42 |
reactor |
I'm complaining about a convenience-relevant peoblem. |
11:42 |
thexyz |
yeah yeah |
11:43 |
reactor |
But whatever. He's not here, so I will contact him when he is here. If I bother to remember. |
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thexyz |
you're wasting your precious cpu cycles by complaining, you should stop doing that because that's not going to change anything |
11:43 |
reactor |
.-10,.s/eoblem/roblem/ |
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pitriss |
reactor: use !tell or how was named that bot function |
11:43 |
reactor |
I'm wasting less of them complaining than processing shitty scripting. |
11:43 |
thexyz |
you should stop wasting your precious cpu cycles and, I dunno, send a pull request here https://github.com/Jeija/mesecons.net |
11:44 |
reactor |
pitriss: I prefer not to outsource criticism. |
11:47 |
thexyz |
I've found a file which you need to change! https://github.com/Jeija/mesecons.net/blob/master/index.php |
11:48 |
reactor |
oh, I see. |
11:48 |
reactor |
Well, that would require me bothering more than I planned to bother today. |
11:48 |
thexyz |
I didn't expect anything else from you |
11:49 |
reactor |
There are many things out there that pass the annoyance threshold, yet not pass the care enough to bother threshold. |
11:51 |
thexyz |
it's all clear now that you're only interested in complaining about things, not fixing them; you can stop with that talk now |
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thexyz |
even if it's a two-lines change or a one-line issue |
11:52 |
reactor |
That would require learning proper GIT, which requires a suitable chunk of interrupt-free time. |
11:54 |
thexyz |
sending an issue via github issue tracker would require learning git, noted |
11:54 |
thexyz |
ah, it probably uses javascript which is unacceptable |
11:54 |
reactor |
Web-interfaces are annoying and should die. |
11:55 |
reactor |
...unless they become more typist-friendly. |
11:55 |
thexyz |
I'll have to agree then; the circumstances made it impossible for you to do something about this issue |
11:55 |
thexyz |
so the only thing you can do (and what you do!) is to complain in this little IRC channel |
11:55 |
thexyz |
much appreciated. |
11:55 |
reactor |
I will gladly bother it when I know the right tools. |
11:56 |
thexyz |
right tools are here! first, you need a non-hipster browser, like, any browser |
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thexyz |
then you navigate to https://github.com/Jeija/mesecons.net/issues/new and fill the fields in |
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thexyz |
then you press the green button |
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MinetestBot |
john_minetest! |
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proller |
specing, okay, i will buld new gate |
12:14 |
proller |
http://minetest.setun.net/map.math/map-math.png - best map ;) |
12:16 |
reactor |
What is that grey thing? |
12:16 |
reactor |
A road? |
12:16 |
proller |
need embed http server to mt, and server json with positions and maybe tiles and no problem with realtime map |
12:17 |
proller |
reactor, like bones |
12:17 |
reactor |
So many bones? |
12:17 |
reactor |
Oh. |
12:17 |
proller |
nonono, structure bone |
12:18 |
proller |
john_minetest, you can write positions to static file every second |
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proller |
now json_writer included |
12:18 |
proller |
serve it via http server, and get grom browser |
12:20 |
proller |
who will update this file? |
12:21 |
proller |
i wrote about it ^^ |
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proller |
reactor, grey is stone |
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reactor |
proller: I see. |
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reactor |
I thought, maybe it's a road made of stone. |
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thexyz |
yes, we could just have a mod which updates some file every 10 seconds, for example |
12:26 |
thexyz |
now we need someone to write an isometric mapper |
12:30 |
specing |
proller: yaaaay |
12:39 |
thexyz |
I don't remember it working very well |
12:40 |
thexyz |
oh, it did? |
12:40 |
thexyz |
maybe I was thinking about another one then |
12:40 |
thexyz |
can I put it in cronjob? |
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thexyz |
and where do I download it |
12:42 |
thexyz |
I remember having to manually browse the map or something like that |
12:43 |
thexyz |
meeeh |
12:44 |
thexyz |
yeah, this is what I was talking about |
12:44 |
thexyz |
I think this is unacceptable and it's too bad this mapper is no longer in development |
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thexyz |
keep believing that |
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thexyz |
yes, the results are nice |
12:46 |
thexyz |
I want my map to be created fast and updated and I certainly don't want to waste my time selecting the tiles manually |
12:47 |
* Jordach |
thinks a SimCity style game would work in minetest |
12:48 |
thexyz |
https://github.com/Zeg9/mtgm/blob/master/TODO |
12:48 |
thexyz |
I think that's not true |
12:48 |
thexyz |
"press F12 for each." |
12:49 |
reactor |
Speaking of keys. |
12:49 |
reactor |
Why are those "chat entry" and "command entry" windows still used? |
12:49 |
reactor |
There is a nice console with scrollback and history! |
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reactor |
(I've seen a patch that allows the console to be mapped to alphanum keys instead, but it has never been integrated) |
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thexyz |
hm... doesn't seem to work for me at all |
12:51 |
thexyz |
apparently it doesn't take screenshots or something |
12:52 |
thexyz |
well it's bad that it doesn't work, I guess some day I'll continue making my mapper |
12:52 |
thexyz |
which eats ram and can't do nodeboxes and shit |
12:52 |
thexyz |
RealBadAngel: https://github.com/freeminer/freeminer/issues/24 |
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thexyz |
http://armarium.org/u/2013/12/23/Rn2qx7fBCs.gif |
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specing |
proller: I'm surprised at how fast your server is wrt. loading content |
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specing |
Is that a freeminer thing? |
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thexyz |
yes his server runs FM |
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Hirato |
speaking of screenshots, Y U NO DEFAULT TO ~/.freeminer/screenshots ? |
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reactor |
Is whatever mod creating enemy mobs still expensive to run? |
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Hirato |
probably :D |
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specing |
proller: did you fix the gate? it doesen't look fixed. Did you move it? |
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Hirato |
which is the math server? |
13:46 |
Hirato |
that one that shows up as Xenodreambuie ? |
13:48 |
Hirato |
yay, forever loading |
13:48 |
Hirato |
can't even blame my torrents |
13:50 |
Hirato |
still, still "loading item definitions" |
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Hirato |
disconnected, whoo |
13:55 |
Hirato |
several more attempts, it's finalyl trying media :o |
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Hirato |
sure are a lot of bones i nthe spawning area |
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sapier |
Hiratio what server are you connectiong to? |
14:00 |
Hirato |
that 'math' one, Xenodreambuie |
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Hirato |
appears to have lagged out, not handling any mount input |
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Hirato |
minetest sure is overzealous with capturing the cursor... |
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sapier |
I filed that bug years ago, someone claimed it to be a windowmanager bug ... as I can't proof anything different ;-) |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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reactor |
EHLO |
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zash |
501 Syntax: EHLO hostname |
14:19 |
PilzAdam |
wtf? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=123329#p123329 |
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specing |
lol |
14:27 |
specing |
lol the previous post |
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EvergreenTree |
~EvergreenTreeunaffiliated/evergreentree |
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EvergreenTree |
\o\ |
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PilzAdam |
~PilzAdamunaffiliated/pilzadam |
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PilzAdam |
\o\ |
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specing |
~specingunaffiliated/specing |
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specing |
\o\ |
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EvergreenTree |
unaffiliatedunaffiliated/unaffiliated |
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specing |
affiliatedaffiliated/unaffiliated |
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EvergreenTree |
Hi Enke |
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Enke |
'ello EvergreenTree |
15:03 |
reactor |
Creative inventory gone?! |
15:03 |
Enke |
reactor: What? |
15:03 |
reactor |
?!! |
15:03 |
reactor |
Well, eh. |
15:04 |
reactor |
I have enabled creative in server config, no creative inventory. |
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OldCoder |
reactor, thanks for the inquiry. I am in the process of moving IRL. |
15:07 |
reactor |
Good! |
15:07 |
reactor |
So how are you doing? |
15:16 |
reactor |
All I get is a Survival mode inventory. |
15:16 |
reactor |
This is strange. |
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thexyz |
Hirato: please submit an issue |
15:34 |
thexyz |
also proller's modpack is probably the most bloated one no wonder it lags |
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thexyz |
sfan5: http://boards.4chan.org/g/res/39127303 |
15:40 |
thexyz |
hm I guess he uses both mobs mods |
15:40 |
thexyz |
and weather too |
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specing |
proller: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2656 + disable the drop part |
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EvergreenTree |
o/ |
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kaeza |
greetings |
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Enke |
o/ |
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reactor |
I forget, do I need to forward both TCP and UDP? |
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reactor |
mk |
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OWNSyouAll |
reactor, both if i remember |
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OWNSyouAll |
yeah i have both udp and tcp forwarded in my firewall |
16:24 |
reactor |
mk |
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reactor |
hmm. |
16:25 |
reactor |
I figured. Only UDP. |
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thexyz |
specing: won't that turn the game into a lagfest? |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all |
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thexyz |
reactor: it seems sapier's working hard on adding TCP into Minetest so soon (or not) you'll need to allow both TCP and UDP |
16:32 |
reactor |
oh |
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reactor |
For what? Media handling? |
16:33 |
Hirato |
probably for the reliable stuff, like sending blocks |
16:33 |
reactor |
oh |
16:33 |
specing |
thexyz: maybe. |
16:33 |
OWNSyouAll |
Yeah i've had that happen to me spend 5 minutes placing blocks and then i come back and they are all gone :/ |
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specing |
thexyz: but hey, its freeminer, its supposed to be amazing |
16:37 |
reactor |
Lag fests are not amazing eh. |
16:39 |
rubenwardy |
Freeminer has more optimisation, but then they added more features which ruin the benefit, it appears. |
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Jordach |
evening |
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sepi |
How can I spawn a mobf animal using a command? |
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rubenwardy |
Merged |
16:53 |
rubenwardy |
:P |
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markveidemanis |
sepi: iirc it was /spawnmob |
16:54 |
rubenwardy |
Thankeee you, john_minetest. |
16:54 |
* rubenwardy |
just downloaded the Android SDK |
16:55 |
sepi |
markveidemanis: thanks a lot |
16:59 |
* rubenwardy |
got 1,800,000 on temple run |
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qwebirc65657 |
where is megaf |
17:00 |
qwebirc65657 |
I need to speack to him |
17:01 |
qwebirc65657 |
hello |
17:01 |
qwebirc65657 |
anyone here |
17:02 |
qwebirc65657 |
hello |
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thexyz |
specing: it indeed is more optimized (i.e. it's possible to host more than 10 players) but there's still much work to do |
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qwebirc65657 |
does anyone know megaf |
17:03 |
qwebirc65657 |
PLEASE RESPOND |
17:03 |
reactor |
qwebirc65657: he comes here, periodically. Okay? |
17:03 |
reactor |
Webchat is evil. |
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OWNSyouAll |
how to tell that someone has never used irc |
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sepi |
How can I debug a missing mob name? I create my own animal for the mobf but cannot spawn it and get an "Unknown modname >mymod<" error. Any idea how I can debug this? |
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OWNSyouAll |
sepi, type /mods do you see mymod in there? |
17:06 |
sepi |
OWNSyouAll: yeah, but it doesn't show up in /listdefinedmobs |
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sepi |
could a broken model be a problem? |
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OWNSyouAll |
dont know never used mobs |
17:07 |
reactor |
So, mobs are still expensive to run? |
17:07 |
reactor |
I mean, on servers? |
17:09 |
meldrian |
Guten Abend |
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meldrian |
eeeehhh heloo |
17:11 |
thexyz |
yes |
17:11 |
reactor |
ИдеÑ.Рщц учзутышму, |
17:11 |
reactor |
Oops. |
17:11 |
reactor |
How expensive? |
17:11 |
reactor |
10 mobs already much? |
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thexyz |
not sure, also there are two mods or so |
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reactor |
mk |
17:12 |
thexyz |
one is mobf by sapier and another one is mobs by PilzAdam |
17:13 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: by the way! |
17:13 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: plz fix https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/blob/master/api.lua#L31 |
17:15 |
phantombeta |
Hi |
17:17 |
reactor |
...is it possible to make players' nicks disappear when they're behind something? |
17:17 |
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17:17 |
reactor |
It really kills all surprise element while deathmatching. |
17:17 |
meldrian |
good question reactor ;) |
17:18 |
Peacock |
just noticed, chanserv welcomes the germans and spanish, but not the english, racist chanserv XD |
17:19 |
reactor |
ChavServ does greet me. |
17:19 |
Peacock |
nor does it mention the french, the russians or the portuguese channels XD |
17:19 |
reactor |
Also, o/ Peacock. |
17:20 |
Peacock |
howdyy |
17:21 |
kaeza |
well, -br and -fr are pretty much dead (-fr has 2 users, one of which is CS) |
17:21 |
Peacock |
im severely disappointed though that the Russians released the greenpeace activists, should have sunk their boat |
17:21 |
rubenwardy |
ChanServ greets me |
17:22 |
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17:23 |
Peacock |
kaeza speaking of which, check this out lol http://youtu.be/1ADX1opI7Vg |
17:24 |
reactor |
Greenpeace are a bunch of hipsters and panickers. |
17:24 |
kaeza |
inb4 rickroll |
17:24 |
reactor |
They aren't doing anything real to protect the planet, just talking and disrupting people's work. |
17:24 |
Peacock |
i saw the montrealer greenpeace dude in the media, guys' got the whole fidel castro beard thing going |
17:24 |
reactor |
...which only causes expenses. |
17:25 |
Peacock |
well they break the law and think they're above it because they're environmentalists, yet they expect to have stricter environmental laws... logic? |
17:25 |
reactor |
Yep. |
17:26 |
Peacock |
speaking of logic, i read on /. that france wants to tax youtube... guess they ran out of things to tax in france XD |
17:27 |
reactor |
France = broke? |
17:28 |
Peacock |
well they did elect a socialist so it should probably come as no surprise lol |
17:29 |
Peacock |
though even Argentina and Zimbabwe are having economic/liquidity troubles, methinks that might have something to do with the US winding down QE |
17:29 |
reactor |
QE? |
17:29 |
Peacock |
quantitative easing/stimulus/printing $ |
17:32 |
sfan5 |
!title |
17:32 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: HUEHUEHUE BR BR?! Brazilian Gamers - YouTube |
17:32 |
* sfan5 |
puts a kitten on MinetestBot's head |
17:36 |
Peacock |
so sad though in the last week there have been so many fires, one house burnt down because of faulty light circuits, another house had a tree next to the fireplace (bright), and in my last city a whole apartment block when up in flames the day before christmas |
17:39 |
* NekoGloop |
curls up in sfan5's lap |
17:39 |
reactor |
*sneeze* Do not mention those, sfan5! |
17:39 |
* NekoGloop |
hisses at reactor |
17:40 |
Peacock |
nekogloop's into the pussy ... cats :P |
17:41 |
Peacock |
http://youtu.be/unmkX15AeN8 |
17:42 |
* NekoGloop |
bites Peacock's arm |
17:42 |
Peacock |
i taste like butter but i'm not |
17:42 |
* reactor |
puts NekoGloop in a box |
17:43 |
reactor |
Let's do some experiments on quantum mechanics? |
17:43 |
Peacock |
Schrodinger's NekoGloop |
17:43 |
reactor |
Speaking of which, now we have a new cat graveyard. |
17:44 |
Peacock |
away nicks signal the coming of the antichrist |
17:44 |
NekoGloop|afk |
I'm only in one channel |
17:44 |
NekoGloop|afk |
But am I here? |
17:45 |
* sfan5 |
pets NekoGloop|afk |
17:45 |
john_mt|afk |
Mew-har ha har hee haow he HA ha haaaarrrr.... |
17:45 |
thexyz |
http://coub.com/view/rwn5txo |
17:45 |
reactor|dumping |
How do you like that one? |
17:45 |
Peacock |
http://youtu.be/k0J2UmHzjYg |
17:48 |
* NekoGloop|afk |
purrs |
17:49 |
reactor |
Status nicks = must.die |
17:50 |
thexyz |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnzk3oViSCI |
17:51 |
thexyz |
how do you like the tutorial? |
17:51 |
zash |
Peacock: slap them with http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html |
17:53 |
thexyz |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLVh7cQ9wxU |
17:53 |
thexyz |
getting so upset just because somebody changed their nickname? |
17:53 |
thexyz |
I'll never be able to understand that |
17:54 |
zash |
thexyz: the day you look at the channel and see nothing but joins, parts, nick changes and one line of actual talk |
17:54 |
* Sokomine |
puts some milk in front of nekogloop |
17:54 |
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17:54 |
thexyz |
zash: that day you just learn how to disable joins, parts and nick changes in your irc client |
17:54 |
* john_minetest |
is away: Becoming the first german Modelleisenbahngleisteilwärterchefmützentransportsdampfschiffkapitänswappenmalerpinselborstenschweinenackenmasseurschuhschnürsenkelschnellbinderüberprüfungslupenschleifsteinhersteller. |
17:54 |
Peacock |
spacebars = banned in germany :P |
17:55 |
* john_minetest |
is back: decided that somebody else should become the first german Modelleisenbahngleisteilwärterchefmützentransportsdampfschiffkapitänswappenmalerpinselborstenschweinenackenmasseurschuhschnürsenkelschnellbinderüberprüfungslupenschleifsteinhersteller. |
17:55 |
Peacock |
http://charuzu.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/long_german_words.jpg |
17:55 |
Calinou |
thexyz, that feeling when you talk to someone who left |
17:55 |
Calinou |
happens to me often :( |
17:55 |
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17:55 |
thexyz |
that's sad |
17:55 |
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17:55 |
thexyz |
john_minetest: can you translate that? |
17:56 |
Peacock |
translate? try pronouncing it in one breath LOL |
18:00 |
reactor |
john_minetest: that's the last job I would like to apply for. |
18:00 |
reactor |
Imagine all those things having to be done at once! |
18:02 |
Peacock |
which programmer did you become? |
18:02 |
reactor |
Oh. |
18:05 |
specing |
john_minetest: W.T.F. is that |
18:06 |
Peacock |
huh, compiz is gone from the repos, what a shame |
18:06 |
Calinou |
the era of wobbly windows is over |
18:06 |
* NekoGloop|afk |
pushes Calinou |
18:07 |
Sokomine |
wobbly windows? |
18:07 |
Peacock |
i dont understand how things like compiz die yet people come up with shittier tablet interfaces that can't be easily reconfigured lol |
18:07 |
Calinou |
compiz was pretty heavy, and bad for gaming |
18:07 |
Calinou |
Sokomine, compiz had an option to make windows wobbly when moved :) |
18:08 |
Sokomine |
irks :-) did people actually use that? i mean...more than once? |
18:08 |
Peacock |
wobbly windows was one of many plugins lol the others were more useful |
18:08 |
Peacock |
i'd have inactive windows scaled down |
18:08 |
Peacock |
and compiz was only heavy if you ran it on your local library's computer :P |
18:09 |
Sokomine |
i prefer window managers/launchers that just do their job - without fancy effects. those effects are nice to watch once; i wouldn't want to work with them |
18:10 |
Peacock |
well lots of people *only* went for the fancy effects, but on a LED screen, id rather like to have back the inactive window dimming lol |
18:10 |
Peacock |
so many websites with white backgrounds giving me headaches lol |
18:11 |
reactor |
Peacock: exactly. |
18:11 |
reactor |
White background must die. |
18:11 |
Peacock |
shit breaking on arch? colour me surprised lol |
18:11 |
reactor |
You can deal with them using a custom stylesheet locally, with varying success. |
18:11 |
Peacock |
oh god people only use white backgrounds because they equate screens with paper/billboards, but it's god awful for the eyes |
18:11 |
MinetestBot |
PilzAdam is back! |
18:12 |
reactor |
Who needs all those desktop effects, really? |
18:12 |
reactor |
They're only taking time. |
18:12 |
Peacock |
ive noticed a sudden influx of arch refugees on the crunchbang forums too |
18:12 |
reactor |
The faster the window is spawned, the sooner you can start using it for work. |
18:12 |
reactor |
john_minetest: not necessarily. |
18:13 |
reactor |
Any colour will do, if it's not overly bright. |
18:13 |
Peacock |
i didn't think anyone still cared about time/resources, so much poorly conceived software say "memory is cheap" lol |
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18:16 |
PilzAdam |
john_minetest, xchat makes your nick green.... coincidend? |
18:17 |
NekoGloop|afk |
my name is red, yours is blue |
18:17 |
NekoGloop|afk |
everyone is blue |
18:17 |
NekoGloop|afk |
I'm in a box |
18:17 |
NekoGloop|afk |
I don't exist. |
18:18 |
kaeza |
Cogito ergo sum |
18:19 |
YuGiOhJCJ |
hello is it normal that when I go to the "Credits" section in the game menu I have some errors in the console? |
18:19 |
YuGiOhJCJ |
http://pastebin.com/j8NPm2Xk |
18:19 |
* Sokomine |
looks into the box |
18:19 |
PilzAdam |
YuGiOhJCJ, no, thats not normal |
18:19 |
YuGiOhJCJ |
on minetest 0.4.8 Linux (built from source code) |
18:19 |
PilzAdam |
its the result of sapier messing the texture load paths up |
18:20 |
Peacock |
its the security hardon preventing you from doxing contributors :P |
18:21 |
YuGiOhJCJ |
do you think it's my fault ? |
18:21 |
PilzAdam |
YuGiOhJCJ, no |
18:21 |
kaeza |
remember kids: when in doubt, blame sapier |
18:21 |
reactor |
Peacock: your password? |
18:22 |
Peacock |
im not allowed to post pornographic messages here XD |
18:22 |
Peacock |
kaeza well he does seem to be doing most of the work and decision taking :P |
18:23 |
YuGiOhJCJ |
ahah strange sapier is the man to blame but it's also one of the person where the e-mail address is missing in the "credits" section :) |
18:23 |
kaeza |
conspiracy >.> |
18:23 |
Peacock |
when i have time to piss away and need a good laugh i make popcorn and read the dev logs lol the sapier/proller/xyz "disagreements" are quite entertaining |
18:24 |
thexyz |
fuck you |
18:24 |
Peacock |
so, is it enet or tcp? |
18:24 |
thexyz |
YuGiOhJCJ: that's a known error |
18:25 |
reactor |
I mean, eh. |
18:25 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, can you please stop insulting others? |
18:25 |
reactor |
YuGiOhJCJ looks like someone's password. |
18:25 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: alright |
18:25 |
Peacock |
im not blaming proller or xyz :P sapier seems determined to do the opposite of whatever proller does, and blame him for being uncooperative afterwards, from what i read :P |
18:25 |
YuGiOhJCJ |
you are speaking of my nickname ? |
18:26 |
YuGiOhJCJ |
my passwords are longer and contain numbers :) |
18:27 |
ShadowNinja |
sapier tries to do things the right way, proller tries to do things the quick and easy way. |
18:27 |
YuGiOhJCJ |
nice so it is a known error... Is it reported ? I mean... Do you have the bug number ? |
18:27 |
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18:28 |
Peacock |
right and wrong ways are pretty subjective, in technical circles the distinction between what works and doesn't work is more important :P |
18:28 |
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18:32 |
YuGiOhJCJ |
there are no "~/.minetest/textures" directory so it's normal it complains |
18:32 |
YuGiOhJCJ |
the good path is "/usr/share/minetest/textures" |
18:32 |
thexyz |
ShadowNinja: the right way being adding hacks to current udp implementation |
18:32 |
thexyz |
and then adding TCP on the top to finish this wonderful cake |
18:33 |
YuGiOhJCJ |
and "/usr/share/minetest/textures/base/pack/logo.png" is available |
18:33 |
Peacock |
so i guess a decision hasn't been taken on protocols yet |
18:33 |
thexyz |
YuGiOhJCJ: yeah well as I said that's a known bug |
18:33 |
thexyz |
Peacock: the decision (MT) is to go with UDP + TCP |
18:33 |
Peacock |
hm, well hopefully it gets done fast, ive been hearing about TCP since i first got here |
18:34 |
ShadowNinja |
thexyz: You added enet, not proller. |
18:35 |
thexyz |
ShadowNinja: I think you have no idea |
18:35 |
thexyz |
ShadowNinja: I did add enet but proller's done many changes too |
18:35 |
YuGiOhJCJ |
I see that my server is only 0.4.4 whereas my client is 0.4.8 do you think there are some incompatibility problems ? |
18:35 |
thexyz |
both those that only affect current UDP implementation and those that affect network stuff in general |
18:36 |
Calinou |
it's useful |
18:36 |
ShadowNinja |
I prefer enet, but I like compat too. |
18:36 |
Peacock |
so people can't lie by pretending they never said something, logs = handy |
18:36 |
ShadowNinja |
True... |
18:37 |
ShadowNinja |
Peacock: Everyone has personal logs. |
18:37 |
Calinou |
sometimes useful stuff is logged |
18:37 |
Peacock |
well #minetest used to have alot more mod dev talk, back when we had more than a handful of devs |
18:38 |
Peacock |
alot of the former modders now work on the engine, and there haven't been many new to replace them |
18:39 |
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18:39 |
thexyz |
ShadowNinja: you should make your bot to post link to alot pic when somebody says "alot" |
18:39 |
ShadowNinja |
thexyz: What link? |
18:40 |
OWNSyouAll |
ShadowNinja, http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html |
18:40 |
ShadowNinja |
And it will only work for me while MTBot is around. |
18:40 |
* kaeza |
wonders what an alot of the former modders would be like |
18:40 |
thexyz |
yeah or right to the pic |
18:41 |
thexyz |
kaeza: "former modders" could imply that now they're dead, so.. some body parts mixed that form alot? |
18:41 |
thexyz |
http://i.imgur.com/ZQibCv3.jpg |
18:43 |
Peacock |
well by former i mean they work more on the engine than the content :P if i thought they were dead i would have said late or deceased |
18:43 |
thexyz |
ah okay |
18:44 |
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18:44 |
Peacock |
though the oldest people here are probably... RBA, OC and V |
18:45 |
ShadowNinja |
~mp add #minetest "(?:^| )alot\\b" "echo http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html" |
18:45 |
ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: O.K. |
18:45 |
ShadowNinja |
I like alot |
18:45 |
ShadowBot |
http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html |
18:45 |
ShadowNinja |
:-) |
18:46 |
kaeza |
hah |
18:46 |
PilzAdam |
alot |
18:46 |
PilzAdam |
the bot ignores me :-( |
18:46 |
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18:46 |
Peacock |
have you been molesting the bot? |
18:47 |
ShadowNinja |
PilzAdam: Yep. :-| Yell at ProgVal to fix channel command disabling or at sfan5 to remove MinetestBot. |
18:47 |
thexyz |
ShadowNinja: no way |
18:47 |
thexyz |
ShadowNinja: plz fix |
18:48 |
Peacock |
why do we have 2 bots anyhow? does one do something different? |
18:48 |
PilzAdam |
Peacock, we have ShadowBot because shes useful, and MinetestBot because sfan5 says so |
18:49 |
Peacock |
lol okay in other words they never came to an agreement :P |
18:49 |
ShadowNinja |
ShadowBot handles kicks and bans, MinetestBot has some commands, although ShadowBot has most of them too. |
18:49 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: oh right.. I forgot that MinetestBot was not useful at all |
18:49 |
kaeza |
!rainbow but MinetestBot has colurz |
18:49 |
MinetestBot |
7b7u9t9 Min7et6e2st7B5o7t3 6ha7s c7o8l4ur5z |
18:49 |
Peacock |
!rainbow very gay |
18:49 |
MinetestBot |
9ve5ry 3g3ay |
18:49 |
MinetestBot |
d2a5sh |
18:50 |
Peacock |
ugh who put brown in there? |
18:50 |
thexyz |
!rainbow > not respecting lgbt |
18:50 |
MinetestBot |
> 6n8o4t respe3c6ti3n4g9 l6gb9t |
18:50 |
ShadowNinja |
I could add that, if you really want it... |
18:50 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, how hard would it be to merge the 2 bots? |
18:50 |
sfan5 |
Peacock: the irc commitee |
18:51 |
Peacock |
lgbt = lettuce, guacamole, bacon and tomato sandwich? |
18:51 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: merging ShadowBot into MinetestBot would probably hard than MT into SB |
18:51 |
sfan5 |
s/MT/MBot/ |
18:51 |
Peacock |
i think now it's LGBTQI btw :P |
18:51 |
ShadowNinja |
SB implements most of MTB's features. |
18:52 |
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18:53 |
ShadowNinja |
Having !title default to !title <url last> might need to be added, but that could be a |
18:53 |
ShadowNinja |
dded with a simple alias, no code needed. |
18:53 |
Peacock |
or maybe !title <user> in case many videos are posted at once |
18:54 |
ShadowNinja |
~help url last |
18:54 |
ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: (url last [<channel>] [--{from,with,without,near,proto} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Gives the last URL matching the given criteria. --from is from whom the URL came; --proto is the protocol the URL used; --with is something inside the URL; --without is something that should not be in the URL; --near is something in the same message as the URL. If --nolimit is given, returns all the (1 more message) |
18:54 |
ShadowNinja |
:-) |
18:55 |
thexyz |
WHERE'S THAT ONE MORE MESSAGE?? |
18:55 |
sfan5 |
it went to /dev/null |
18:55 |
markveidemanis |
Looking smug, ShadowNinja |
18:55 |
Peacock |
seriously, my first instinct was to click on it lol |
18:55 |
ShadowNinja |
~more |
18:55 |
ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: URLs that are found to just the URL. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. |
18:55 |
Peacock |
~moar |
18:55 |
markveidemanis |
~help |
18:55 |
markveidemanis |
... |
18:55 |
thexyz |
~halp |
18:55 |
thexyz |
~plz |
18:55 |
sfan5 |
~kitten |
18:56 |
Peacock |
~evil |
18:56 |
kaeza |
~wowsuchhalp |
18:56 |
sfan5 |
~much wow |
18:56 |
sfan5 |
~very help |
18:56 |
markveidemanis |
!unignore myass |
18:56 |
ShadowNinja |
... |
18:56 |
YuGiOhJCJ |
the new way things far disappeared and re-appeared at the screen in 0.4.8 is irritating. In 0.4.7 it was better, isn't it ? |
18:57 |
sfan5 |
markveidemanis: ShadowBot only reacts to ShadowNinja in #minetest |
18:57 |
Peacock |
wouldn't want to name a sql table myass ... "insert into myass values [...]" lol |
18:58 |
kahrl |
SELECT * FROM uranus |
18:58 |
sfan5 |
INSERT into uranus VALUES [...] |
18:59 |
Peacock |
INSERT INTO Mother VALUES... |
18:59 |
ShadowNinja |
~kitten |
18:59 |
ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: Error: I'm lobotomized in #minetest. |
18:59 |
ShadowNinja |
:-( |
18:59 |
YuGiOhJCJ |
I can enable full viewing range (with "R") but it is slower so I prefer to disable this feature but in 0.4.8 there are too many things that disappeared and re-appeared at the screen... Is it not the same for you ? |
18:59 |
zash |
Not the kittes! |
19:00 |
* sfan5 |
hands ShadowNinja a kitten |
19:00 |
ShadowNinja |
Well, it works in another channel... |
19:00 |
zash |
http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/exchange/files/images/dangerous-to-go-alone.jpg :) |
19:00 |
Peacock |
<YuGiOhJCJ> thats been going on since before 0.4.8 |
19:01 |
Peacock |
do things flicker when you turn? |
19:03 |
YuGiOhJCJ |
I was on 0.4.7 since many months and I think it was better when we are in disabled full viewing range |
19:03 |
Issa2013 |
hello |
19:03 |
Peacock |
there was also that sky dark/bright flicker thing in free move |
19:04 |
YuGiOhJCJ |
on 0.4.8 there is something different |
19:05 |
Peacock |
well judging from the devlogs im holding out for 049 lol |
19:06 |
YuGiOhJCJ |
I just move the mouse a little and a lot of things disappeared or re-appeared... that's strange... |
19:06 |
Peacock |
yeah thats not new |
19:06 |
Peacock |
but i was told it was in my head so i didn't press it further :P |
19:06 |
YuGiOhJCJ |
but for me I prefer in the 0.4.7 for this |
19:06 |
Issa2013 |
how install mod on minetest please |
19:06 |
Peacock |
i dont remember if that was a thing with the 046 version |
19:06 |
Issa2013 |
https://github.com/BlockMen/minetest_plus |
19:07 |
Issa2013 |
i want install this --> https://github.com/BlockMen/minetest_plus |
19:07 |
kaeza |
http://xkcd.com/1172/ |
19:07 |
YuGiOhJCJ |
I don't know how to explain exactly but I see a difference |
19:07 |
kaeza |
^ related |
19:07 |
rubenwardy |
alot |
19:07 |
Issa2013 |
!wikibot install mod linux |
19:07 |
Peacock |
lol spacebar heating |
19:08 |
Peacock |
though i hardly think chunks flickering and sky flickering were intended :P |
19:09 |
kaeza |
Issa2013, http://wiki.minetest.net/Installing_Mods |
19:09 |
Peacock |
doesn't the ingame thingy work? |
19:10 |
Issa2013 |
Keaa i do it, but in minetest i don't show it |
19:10 |
Issa2013 |
--> |
19:10 |
Issa2013 |
http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-52bf221e3ffad5.46200413.jpg |
19:10 |
Peacock |
hidden folders? |
19:11 |
kaeza |
>.mods |
19:11 |
Peacock |
ugh im french and even i can't stand an OS in french lol |
19:11 |
specing |
"mods" |
19:11 |
Peacock |
is /.minetest legit too? |
19:11 |
kaeza |
yes |
19:12 |
Issa2013 |
ok |
19:12 |
kaeza |
well, not /.minetest :P |
19:12 |
Issa2013 |
but when i lunch he is crachesd --> /home/issa/.minetest/mods |
19:12 |
Peacock |
try /home/issa/minetest/mods |
19:13 |
specing |
~/.minetest/mods is correct |
19:13 |
kaeza |
Issa2013, pastebin the error you get |
19:13 |
kaeza |
see this topic: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5073 |
19:13 |
Issa2013 |
http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-52bf22dcce6667.85389099.jpg |
19:14 |
Peacock |
is the mod /game named PLus? |
19:14 |
kaeza |
oh wait |
19:14 |
kaeza |
it's a game, not a mod |
19:14 |
kaeza |
it goes in ~/.minetest/games/ |
19:16 |
Issa2013 |
kaeza, yes is better --> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-52bf2391423777.58976796.jpg |
19:16 |
Issa2013 |
:) |
19:17 |
Peacock |
lol minetest plus |
19:17 |
Peacock |
up next, MoreMinetest |
19:17 |
Peacock |
Minetest++ |
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19:17 |
kaeza |
MoreUnifiedExtendedMinetest |
19:17 |
Peacock |
even better lol |
19:17 |
kaeza |
+Plus |
19:18 |
Peacock |
well i think V's game probably counts as UnifiedMinetest, she's got all the mods lol |
19:18 |
Peacock |
i dont know why we're so bad with coming up with names for stuff in opensource lol |
19:19 |
Issa2013 |
ok now i m tryning to luinch it on my ubuntu server |
19:20 |
Peacock |
considering how many german users we have we should probably rename minetest to meinkraft :P |
19:20 |
specing |
meintest |
19:21 |
Peacock |
BergwerkHandwerk ? |
19:22 |
Peacock |
(literal translation of mine + craft) lol |
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19:34 |
rubenwardy |
The product of 2 hours of ducking about with the Android SDK: (screenshot) http://ubuntuone.com/2HPUfD9KOB5faaGsNCg1fq |
19:35 |
Peacock |
if it took two hours to do that im not surprised then that so many apps are shit or just frames for websites lol |
19:35 |
specing |
could do that in under 5 mins with QML + C++ |
19:36 |
rubenwardy |
It took under a minute to make the actual code, the rest of the time was trying to get it to run in the emulator |
19:37 |
Peacock |
lol i had similar fun setting up android x86 in virtualbox |
19:37 |
specing |
doubt it |
19:37 |
specing |
you can't do a GUI helloworld in java in under 5 minutes |
19:37 |
specing |
err 1 minute |
19:37 |
rubenwardy |
It is just drag and drop, and then making a base class. |
19:37 |
rubenwardy |
the base class only has one function in it, which is to load the ui |
19:37 |
Peacock |
but.... java lol |
19:38 |
rubenwardy |
but.... lua lol |
19:38 |
specing |
lua >>>>> java |
19:38 |
kaeza |
lol C++ |
19:38 |
Peacock |
lua is simple enough for its purposes |
19:38 |
kaeza |
sory, had to say it :/ |
19:38 |
kaeza |
+r |
19:38 |
* specing |
whips kaeza |
19:38 |
Peacock |
no one expects you to write full apps in lua though some do try |
19:38 |
rubenwardy |
I don't like Java, but Android uses it] |
19:39 |
specing |
Peacock: checkout the LOVE framework |
19:39 |
Peacock |
of course, dont they put each app in a virtualbox type sandbox? |
19:39 |
specing |
Qemu. |
19:39 |
specing |
virtualbox sucks |
19:39 |
kaeza |
inb4 "because muh freedums" |
19:40 |
Peacock |
lol |
19:40 |
specing |
Can virtualbox do ARM? |
19:40 |
specing |
how about Sparc? |
19:40 |
specing |
Or Power? |
19:40 |
specing |
ofcourse not. |
19:40 |
Peacock |
even hitler had a "Free Corps" :p |
19:41 |
specing |
Qemu beats it in performance, too |
19:42 |
kaeza |
alright, I stand corrected |
19:43 |
kaeza |
still was just poking fun at the general statement "it's betterer because it's freer" not "because it has more features, etc" |
19:43 |
reactor |
...github is more convenient than I thought,actually. |
19:43 |
reactor |
s/,/, / |
19:44 |
Peacock |
kaeza dont worry, even RMS admits his whole life is one giant fail :P |
19:45 |
Peacock |
a bit long, but he says it lol http://youtu.be/WM8mKMtEg7M |
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20:23 |
Megaf |
hi all |
20:24 |
Megaf |
Hi PilzAdam |
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20:26 |
Megaf |
Hi Calinou proller troller |
20:26 |
troller |
moo\ |
20:27 |
Megaf |
Heh, I'm really lagged here |
20:29 |
* Calinou |
quality controls Megaf |
20:29 |
Calinou |
certified, no lag! |
20:30 |
specing |
proller: troller theres two of you for the price of one? |
20:30 |
proller |
meow |
20:33 |
thexyz |
!tell rubenwardy nice now uninstall eclipse and use a proper ide like intellij idea |
20:33 |
MinetestBot |
thexyz: I'll pass that on when rubenwardy is around |
20:34 |
Calinou |
... |
20:35 |
thexyz |
that was so constructive |
20:38 |
specing |
proller: fixed teeh gate yet? |
20:38 |
proller |
no |
20:38 |
proller |
10-20 min.. |
20:39 |
specing |
btw I found 4 MESE BLOCKS on a floatisland at >29000 height |
20:39 |
specing |
took 8 hearts to get there. was worth it |
20:40 |
Calinou |
"Sky" is unplayable, because you don't start with any resources, but also because the world is full of bones... |
20:40 |
Calinou |
also because tool speeds are too slow... but that's the case on any server |
20:42 |
troller |
no problem to find tree and make pick |
20:47 |
Peacock |
if your tool speed is too slow, you might wanna get a gf :P |
20:50 |
specing |
Calinou: I found your bones on the same floatisland I found 4 mese blocks on :P |
20:51 |
specing |
Calinou: anyway, if you go back into the sky stargate you reach my gardens near 0,0,0 |
20:51 |
specing |
but it currently doesen't work because I blew the other end up with mese TNT :D :D :D |
20:52 |
troller |
2.50484e+06 liquids per 12 seconds |
20:53 |
specing |
troller: you should enable the money mod so I can sell pickaxes at spawn and get rich :D |
20:54 |
specing |
(and saplings) |
20:54 |
specing |
troller: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2263 |
20:55 |
Calinou |
I never find a tree |
20:55 |
EvergreenTree |
I'm a tree |
20:56 |
EvergreenTree |
So if I am on that server, you found a tree |
20:56 |
EvergreenTree |
:D |
20:56 |
troller |
Calinou, because its HARD |
20:56 |
troller |
with FM client you can jump from spawn and reach sea |
20:57 |
EvergreenTree |
I actually went on there once, and I gave up |
20:57 |
specing |
Calinou: there are like 20 trees at spawn |
20:57 |
specing |
LOL |
20:58 |
specing |
troller: can't you do that with the normal client and fastmode activated? |
20:58 |
specing |
Im pretty sure it can be done |
20:58 |
troller |
can, but fastmode is cheat |
20:59 |
troller |
fm have coool aircontrol when you falling fast |
20:59 |
specing |
can you open a parachute? |
20:59 |
troller |
no, it in TODO for mod |
21:00 |
specing |
lol |
21:01 |
specing |
troller: I need a rope for reaching the lower floatislands |
21:02 |
troller |
yes, now its problem, you cant build down |
21:02 |
thexyz |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=123370#p123370 AHAHAHAHAHAHA |
21:02 |
thexyz |
what the actual fuck |
21:02 |
specing |
I can reach higher ones just fine by building a stone pillar with stones in an alternating pattern |
21:02 |
specing |
Bad request. The link you followed is incorrect or outdated. |
21:02 |
thexyz |
log in |
21:02 |
specing |
I dont have an account |
21:03 |
thexyz |
create one |
21:04 |
troller |
you can find water spring, and flow down without damage |
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21:05 |
troller |
but on float islands spring fastly freezes |
21:05 |
troller |
need torch to warm it |
21:05 |
troller |
gate repaired |
21:06 |
specing |
troller: springs? |
21:06 |
specing |
wtf |
21:06 |
specing |
on a real_liquid server? |
21:06 |
troller |
yes 8) |
21:06 |
troller |
and on float islands! |
21:07 |
Peacock |
no ice cream float islands? |
21:07 |
troller |
here is small cheat: if height> 0 and water above unloaded block - it disapears with 1/3 chance |
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21:08 |
specing |
"unloaded block"? |
21:08 |
troller |
-> high springs is safe and cant bake big stuck water |
21:09 |
paramat |
ive progressed and now think core floatlands are fairly poor mapgen :) ... i might come up with something better |
21:10 |
troller |
16x16x16 area usually transparent and you cant walt to it |
21:10 |
troller |
paramat, where pull? ;) |
21:10 |
paramat |
... it could be my first C++ project ... patience :) |
21:11 |
paramat |
caves in indev mapgen are bad too ... |
21:12 |
troller |
paramat, http://forum.freeminer.org/threads/post-your-screenshots.9/#post-426 http://minetest.setun.net/map.math/map-math.png |
21:12 |
troller |
caves from v6, yes, very bad |
21:12 |
paramat |
yeah i saw those yesterday, nice |
21:12 |
paramat |
hypercomplex |
21:13 |
paramat |
i made some hypercomplex fractal music ... 4 and 8 dimensional mandelbrot |
21:13 |
troller |
now possible to port most http://www.mandelbulber.com/gallery_page1.php worlds |
21:14 |
paramat |
my music https://soundcloud.com/menokefug |
21:14 |
troller |
woow http://krzysztofmarczak.deviantart.com/art/Spatial-Interchange-1-202369651 need formula 8) |
21:16 |
paramat |
nice, but it needs to be big, the mandelbox mapgen is too small |
21:16 |
paramat |
does math mapgen generate fractals on the go, or load in pre-generated? |
21:16 |
troller |
"scale":0.00001 |
21:16 |
troller |
on the go |
21:17 |
paramat |
:) |
21:17 |
troller |
you can change any params and make fractal of any size |
21:17 |
troller |
no problem to make 60000x60000x60000 |
21:17 |
paramat |
do your math mapgen flags work in MT0.4.8? |
21:18 |
troller |
not all |
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21:18 |
paramat |
okay it's more a FM thing :) |
21:18 |
Enke |
What's more of an FM thing? |
21:18 |
paramat |
heh ... o/ |
21:19 |
thexyz |
please use chat logs |
21:19 |
specing |
Speaking of Enke ... |
21:19 |
Enke |
'ello |
21:20 |
Enke |
Ah, math mapgen. |
21:26 |
Exio4 |
john_minetest: i don't have my pc watercooled and i can live |
21:27 |
Calinou |
? |
21:27 |
* Calinou |
updated his one line script |
21:27 |
Calinou |
(shorter, the message printed at the end is now colored and bolded) |
21:36 |
Megaf |
john_minetest, yep, it will overhead pretty quick |
21:39 |
Peacock |
DIY watercooling: dunk your PC in the tub |
21:40 |
Exio4 |
actually, the watercooling was until "recently" a DIY thing |
21:41 |
Megaf |
still, it needs air to cool the water |
21:41 |
Peacock |
hm, |
21:41 |
Peacock |
then dunk the pc in the tub and add fish |
21:42 |
Peacock |
they can extract air from water! :P |
21:43 |
Exio4 |
lol |
21:43 |
Exio4 |
Megaf: you could use a peltir |
21:43 |
Exio4 |
peltier* |
21:44 |
Megaf |
still needs air |
21:44 |
Peacock |
suddenly, http://youtu.be/jv6MgODqMZc |
21:44 |
Exio4 |
!title |
21:44 |
MinetestBot |
Exio4: The Red Green Show - Cadilac Backhoe - YouTube |
21:44 |
Megaf |
It may be cool in one side, but will be hot as hell on the other side |
21:44 |
Megaf |
I have one |
21:44 |
Exio4 |
do you have a working phase change cooling?\ |
21:44 |
Exio4 |
for a computer? :D? |
21:45 |
thexyz |
Calinou: I think we should do something so the user only have to `curl play.minetest.net | bash` |
21:45 |
Exio4 |
curl ... | bash |
21:45 |
Megaf |
Exio4, heatpipes? |
21:45 |
Exio4 |
looks insanely insecure |
21:45 |
Calinou |
thexyz, lol, that's a bad thing to do security-wise :P |
21:45 |
thexyz |
okay, https://play.minetest.net |
21:45 |
Exio4 |
lol |
21:45 |
thexyz |
Calinou: how's your script different? |
21:45 |
Megaf |
thexyz, still |
21:46 |
thexyz |
Calinou: let's make an experiment, you add a rm -rf /* somewhere, then we measure level of butthurt in the thread |
21:46 |
Peacock |
much butthurt, very crash, wow |
21:46 |
thexyz |
such meme |
21:46 |
Megaf |
!title |
21:46 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Can't connect to https://play.minetest.net |
21:47 |
Megaf |
too bad for you |
21:47 |
Calinou |
my script doesn't have "rm" anywhere |
21:47 |
Calinou |
if you're cautious, you could search for instances of "rm" :p |
21:47 |
thexyz |
yeah sure |
21:47 |
kaeza |
alias cp='r''m' |
21:47 |
thexyz |
export EDITOR=rm |
21:47 |
Megaf |
lol |
21:48 |
Megaf |
!title |
21:48 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Can't connect to https://play.minetest.net |
21:48 |
Megaf |
MinetestBot, That's enough for me, goodbye |
21:48 |
thexyz |
muh kernal |
21:49 |
specing |
troller: wtf /data/specing/install/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/4.8.0/../../../../x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lGLESv2 |
21:50 |
specing |
troller: freeminer needs OpenGL ES? |
21:50 |
specing |
0.o |
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21:50 |
thexyz |
no it doesn't |
21:50 |
troller |
no, it can use it |
21:50 |
paramat |
http://i.imgur.com/ysOplQX.png i get these ridges at chunk edges when using my terrain-lowering mods, even with caves disabled and with voxelmanip, anyone know why this happens or if it is fixable? |
21:50 |
thexyz |
you're doing something wrong |
21:51 |
Peacock |
not the ridges of a klingon warrior |
21:51 |
thexyz |
anyway troller should just make a cmake option |
21:51 |
specing |
I did cmake .. -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0 -DENABLE_FREETYPE=1; make -j3 |
21:51 |
thexyz |
well for some reason it thinks you have gles |
21:51 |
iqualfragile |
paramat: i think mgv7 had some bug causing such issues |
21:51 |
iqualfragile |
but those things are not at block edges, block are 16 nodes wide |
21:52 |
specing |
thexyz: wat do? |
21:53 |
thexyz |
for now you can just remove "find_package(OpenGLES2)" from src/CMakeLists.txt |
21:53 |
iqualfragile |
specing: install gles? |
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Peacock |
i guess minetestbot went back to its alcove for another regeneration cycle |
22:03 |
troller |
https://github.com/freeminer/freeminer/commit/75e5895afaec95c530d68847a058aac5338e3c81 |
22:08 |
kaeza |
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7970174976/hDED66A9E/ |
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22:11 |
Peacock |
i certainly dont mind blowing into cartridges to clear the dust lol |
22:11 |
Peacock |
*dont miss |
22:11 |
Peacock |
though i don't think it did much |
22:11 |
thexyz |
nice typo here |
22:12 |
Peacock |
better than saying blowing chinks instead of blowing chunks :P |
22:12 |
Enke |
Peacock: I blew into the cartridges a LOT |
22:13 |
Enke |
My N64 still works. Which is why. |
22:14 |
Peacock |
i played goldeneye on the n64 emulator, wasn't the same thing |
22:14 |
Peacock |
*though |
22:14 |
Peacock |
wtf lol |
22:16 |
kaeza |
I didn't really like Goldeneye; probably because playing with yourself is not fun ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
22:16 |
Peacock |
its hard to play with yourself when your playing goldeneye |
22:16 |
Peacock |
kinda need both hands |
22:17 |
Peacock |
and while natalya might of had big tits, she wasn't much to look at |
22:18 |
* kaeza |
still prefers Perfect Dark or OOT |
22:19 |
kaeza |
also SSB |
22:19 |
thexyz |
i agree, perfect dark is a nice p2p thingy |
22:19 |
thexyz |
works in wine too |
22:19 |
thexyz |
not open source though |
22:19 |
Peacock |
ugh, wine gaming lol |
22:19 |
Peacock |
thats why i reinstalled w7 |
22:19 |
kaeza |
O_o |
22:20 |
thexyz |
gaming? that's not what I was talking about |
22:20 |
Peacock |
then wtf is perfect dark? |
22:20 |
thexyz |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_Dark_(P2P) |
22:20 |
thexyz |
or were you talking about a game? |
22:20 |
Peacock |
a game |
22:21 |
Peacock |
what am i missing? lol |
22:21 |
thexyz |
ah well |
22:22 |
thexyz |
who needs gaymes |
22:22 |
Peacock |
remind me again what is it people develop here lol |
22:22 |
thexyz |
not sure |
22:23 |
thexyz |
where's the actual development |
22:23 |
Peacock |
lol close enough, game/game engine/argument generator most likely |
22:25 |
Peacock |
not sure about that either lol #minetest is mostly offtopic, but #minetest-dev seems to be mostly technical arguments too so ... lol |
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Peacock |
oh god, the signature virus thing is catching on |
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22:34 |
Enke |
We always get offtopic somehow in #nethack |
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22:43 |
Peacock |
in what country was this tried? https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7970344192/hB553D1B2/ |
22:45 |
iqualfragile |
Peacock: 'murica obv. |
22:46 |
Peacock |
or england or australia |
22:46 |
Peacock |
or canada for that matter :/ |
22:47 |
Peacock |
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/man-arrested-putting-extinguisher-hose-backside-article-1.1537120 |
22:47 |
Peacock |
maybe england lol |
22:49 |
Enke |
I know! Belgium! |
22:49 |
RealBadAngel |
fun fact: according to my phone, buildcraft has been downloaded 100.000+ since 23.12 |
22:49 |
RealBadAngel |
3500 has liked it |
22:49 |
Enke |
holy crud. |
22:49 |
Peacock |
not bad |
22:50 |
Enke |
buildcraft is illegal though. We should write something on that. Can you flag apps as illegal? |
22:50 |
Peacock |
its been done, and moving very slowly lol |
22:50 |
RealBadAngel |
google alredady answered |
22:50 |
RealBadAngel |
and asked to clearify them LGPL |
22:50 |
RealBadAngel |
morons |
22:50 |
Peacock |
at this point though why bother? take down a free app and the apk will reappear on all the other markets, and probably google play too under a different name |
22:51 |
Enke |
Could be. We could try information. |
22:51 |
Peacock |
yeah well i think they're probably just dicking you guys around asking for deets on the lgpl, like they don't know legal shits |
22:52 |
Enke |
We've had several people appear on ShadowServer asking about how to use buildcraft. |
22:53 |
Enke |
I'm sick of it |
22:53 |
RealBadAngel |
imho we shall just start official one |
22:53 |
Peacock |
rba, easier said than done |
22:53 |
RealBadAngel |
i just bought tablet to start play with it |
22:54 |
RealBadAngel |
and frankly i do love it, Avatar in HD plays great on it |
22:55 |
Enke |
Am I the only one who remembers how many people stated that they would port MT to a pocket edition. |
22:55 |
Enke |
How many times has that worked out? |
22:55 |
Peacock |
not crazy about tablets lol limited storage, detached keyboards, craning your neck or holding it up at an angle... id rather get a new laptop lol |
22:55 |
Peacock |
enke exactly, as long as i've been here all i've heard is how difficult it would be |
22:56 |
RealBadAngel |
actually that tablet has better display than my monitor |
22:56 |
Enke |
How many topics on that are in the forums anyway. Many have tried, most, if not all, gave up. |
22:56 |
Peacock |
now people are just butthurt that this guy did it on his own and won't turn over the project to be mismanaged :P |
22:56 |
Peacock |
not netbooks, and the screen size is 10", and my storage is 250gb |
22:57 |
Peacock |
not here |
22:57 |
Peacock |
200$ |
22:57 |
Peacock |
cheapest tablet costs the same but don't have nearly as much storage, and you're still missing a keyboard |
22:58 |
Peacock |
well when a netbook and the cheapest tablet costs the same in canada, people will go for bigger storage and attached keyboard (with a screen that holds itself at a decent angle) :P |
22:59 |
RealBadAngel |
i am connecting now to VanessaE's survival |
22:59 |
Enke |
I'm just upset about the fact that he didn't give others the GNU license. |
22:59 |
RealBadAngel |
fuck him |
22:59 |
Enke |
me? |
22:59 |
RealBadAngel |
we will make it again but better |
23:00 |
RealBadAngel |
the guy who stole mt |
23:00 |
Enke |
oh. Thought you were mad at me for some reason. |
23:00 |
Peacock |
you cant steal MT, or anything that's already free |
23:00 |
Peacock |
the same way you cant steal music or movies from digital copies |
23:00 |
Enke |
He should have used the GNU license. He didn't. That's illegal. |
23:00 |
Peacock |
unless of course, you buy all your music/movies legit |
23:00 |
Peacock |
in which case you can moralize :P |
23:01 |
Peacock |
illegal in the sense of a contract violation, thats civil though, not criminal |
23:01 |
RealBadAngel |
really? |
23:01 |
RealBadAngel |
he is using also my name |
23:02 |
RealBadAngel |
in authors tab |
23:02 |
RealBadAngel |
i could sue him for that |
23:02 |
Peacock |
allright, so who here is gonna hire a lawyer in China to take him to bat? |
23:02 |
Exio4 |
you couldn't do that |
23:02 |
Peacock |
or are you willing to turnover all your copyright to the FSF so they can sue? |
23:02 |
Exio4 |
the lgpl gives you enough rights |
23:03 |
RealBadAngel |
he violated license terms |
23:03 |
Enke |
He did. |
23:03 |
Peacock |
the guy might not even be doing anything wrong by chinese standards, same way decompilers are legal in Russia: http://www.zdnet.com/can-gpl-be-enforced-in-china-2062004229/ |
23:03 |
thexyz |
the official port is already here and it works fine |
23:03 |
RealBadAngel |
thexyz, how can i try it? |
23:04 |
Peacock |
so why are people still butthurt over buildcraft then? we got our official thingy |
23:04 |
thexyz |
no way because last time I tried to explain how to use it the person raged at me |
23:04 |
RealBadAngel |
btw, buildcraft added some antivrus shit to my tablet |
23:04 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
23:04 |
thexyz |
Peacock: it's not finished |
23:04 |
Peacock |
lol who raged? |
23:04 |
thexyz |
VE did |
23:04 |
Peacock |
really? damn |
23:04 |
RealBadAngel |
oh cmon |
23:04 |
thexyz |
or maybe it was the other way around |
23:04 |
thexyz |
I raged at her too |
23:04 |
Peacock |
oh it was mutual :P |
23:04 |
thexyz |
RealBadAngel: well do you want to follow the easy way or the hard way? |
23:05 |
RealBadAngel |
working one |
23:05 |
Exio4 |
download the apk or compile by yourself* |
23:05 |
RealBadAngel |
i do have plenty of time |
23:05 |
Exio4 |
translated to english |
23:05 |
thexyz |
okay, a moment |
23:05 |
thexyz |
apparently quassel sucks |
23:05 |
Exio4 |
old news |
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23:06 |
specing |
thexyz: works |
23:07 |
Enke |
Goddammit Google! |
23:07 |
jojoa1997 |
I am trying to build minetest in windows. I have cmake and mingw. I have already configured it but what is the command to build minetest |
23:07 |
thexyz |
RealBadAngel: http://a.pomf.se/oarhe.apk and then clone https://github.com/xyzz/freeminer branch android to /sdcard/freeminer |
23:07 |
thexyz |
not sure how outdated this apk is |
23:07 |
thexyz |
it's quite easy to build it too |
23:07 |
phantombeta |
Hi |
23:07 |
thexyz |
https://github.com/xyzz/freeminer/blob/android/build/android/build.sh |
23:08 |
Enke |
won't let me write a review unless I install it! |
23:09 |
thexyz |
do you know what "review" means? |
23:09 |
jojoa1997 |
cmake, make, g++, and mingw32-make are all the ones i have found online and dont work |
23:09 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
23:09 |
thexyz |
anyway, I've replied to Google with that DMCA note so I hope apps get pulled quick |
23:09 |
Enke |
Ooh, that's good. |
23:09 |
RealBadAngel |
items in inventory are upside down |
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23:10 |
RealBadAngel |
nodes, not tools |
23:10 |
thexyz |
but we won't win anything because the official port is not ready yet |
23:10 |
Peacock |
i wonder if they'll reply back asking for more details |
23:10 |
thexyz |
RealBadAngel: I know, also images could be wrong |
23:10 |
thexyz |
but does it work? |
23:11 |
RealBadAngel |
havent started yet, im talkin bout buildcraft |
23:11 |
RealBadAngel |
checkin how it works |
23:11 |
thexyz |
ah well uninstall that illegal shit right now |
23:12 |
RealBadAngel |
i wonder how to uninstall those ads |
23:12 |
Enke |
Meh, back to nethack |
23:12 |
thexyz |
well you shouldn't have installed this illegal shit in the first place |
23:12 |
thexyz |
anyway plz test my apk and report here |
23:12 |
RealBadAngel |
it was stronger than me |
23:12 |
RealBadAngel |
i had to :) |
23:13 |
thexyz |
I'm sure the controls are better already |
23:13 |
thexyz |
at least on a small screen |
23:13 |
thexyz |
but there's a problem with lighting, it just doesn't work |
23:15 |
RealBadAngel |
thexyz, downloading that apk |
23:18 |
RealBadAngel |
it looks like it just saved it somewhere |
23:18 |
RealBadAngel |
what should i do now? |
23:18 |
thexyz |
you should install it |
23:19 |
thexyz |
did you use your tablet to download it? |
23:19 |
Peacock |
lol buildcraft review: "A rip off of minecraft and laks some items " |
23:19 |
thexyz |
then find it in downloads and click on it |
23:19 |
thexyz |
buildcraft reviews are worse than cancer |
23:20 |
Peacock |
different one: " The servers are kinda bad" |
23:21 |
RealBadAngel |
ok, i run that oarhe.apk |
23:21 |
RealBadAngel |
it said its installed now |
23:22 |
RealBadAngel |
when i try to start it screen goes black |
23:22 |
RealBadAngel |
then it closes |
23:22 |
Peacock |
seems legit |
23:23 |
Peacock |
hopefully you didn't U/I buildcraft yet :P |
23:23 |
RealBadAngel |
looks like buildcraft have ads build in, btw |
23:24 |
Peacock |
alot of google apps do, theres an adblocker in google play |
23:24 |
ShadowBot |
http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html |
23:25 |
RealBadAngel |
btw, lookin for answers, as newbie |
23:25 |
RealBadAngel |
i found that one have installed ubuntu on galaxy tab |
23:25 |
RealBadAngel |
and thats neat |
23:26 |
kaeza |
[20:24:36] <shadowhunterSn-S> how do u open and close stuff on samsung |
23:26 |
Peacock |
though im not surprised the guy packed in adware with buildcraft, if he read the reactions to his premium version on the forums lol |
23:26 |
Peacock |
why install ubuntu on a tablet? |
23:26 |
Peacock |
thats like installing android on a netbook |
23:26 |
Peacock |
the two users might as well switch tech lol |
23:26 |
RealBadAngel |
beacause its possible to do so? :0 |
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23:27 |
Peacock |
yeah we have all sorts of emulators for the browser but try finding a use for those too lol |
23:27 |
RealBadAngel |
ok ok |
23:28 |
RealBadAngel |
thexyz, what i shall do next after that "apk" part |
23:28 |
Peacock |
mind you android x86 isn't quite ready for primetime |
23:28 |
Peacock |
that could change though: http://beta.slashdot.org/story/196133 |
23:34 |
RealBadAngel |
thexyz, u here? |
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23:42 |
RealBadAngel |
it crashed |
23:42 |
RealBadAngel |
no future with broken builtin async enviroment scripts |
23:42 |
Peacock |
no future... sounds rather bleak :P |
23:43 |
RealBadAngel |
thats error message, not my comment |
23:44 |
Peacock |
oh lol |
23:44 |
Peacock |
poetic :-) |
23:44 |
RealBadAngel |
wonder what poetic soul did that |
23:45 |
Peacock |
prolly xyz, if proller had written it, it would be "much crash, very fucked, wow" :P |
23:45 |
RealBadAngel |
it looks like kinda joke |
23:46 |
RealBadAngel |
at least next commits by proller would be "fixed #1" "ooops, fixed now" |
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23:47 |
Peacock |
i kinda wonder if the doge meme didn't originate from him lol |
23:48 |
RealBadAngel |
i saw lately code for another voxel game |
23:48 |
RealBadAngel |
in very early stage comparing to us |
23:48 |
Peacock |
which one? |
23:48 |
RealBadAngel |
dont remember now, its mentioned in forums |
23:49 |
RealBadAngel |
gnomescroll or something like that |
23:49 |
thexyz |
RealBadAngel: you didn't read very well |
23:49 |
thexyz |
and then clone https://github.com/xyzz/freeminer branch android to /sdcard/freeminer |
23:49 |
RealBadAngel |
thexyz, i dont have /sdcard folder |
23:49 |
thexyz |
also that's probably sapier |
23:49 |
thexyz |
RealBadAngel: I'm sure you do |
23:49 |
RealBadAngel |
no |
23:50 |
RealBadAngel |
i do have /card folder |
23:50 |
RealBadAngel |
sorry |
23:50 |
thexyz |
;( |
23:50 |
RealBadAngel |
/storage/extSdCard |
23:50 |
thexyz |
/sdcard/freeminer is hardcoded |
23:51 |
RealBadAngel |
thats the folder i do have |
23:51 |
thexyz |
you can change it and recompile |
23:51 |
RealBadAngel |
holy shit |
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23:51 |
thexyz |
well that's why I said it's not ready yet |
23:51 |
RealBadAngel |
how can i recompile it on my phone? |
23:52 |
RealBadAngel |
damn. i do have 3 days off and a brand new tablet |
23:52 |
RealBadAngel |
i will make it run. :| |
23:54 |
thexyz |
you recompile it on your pc, not phone |
23:54 |
thexyz |
that's really simple |
23:54 |
thexyz |
1) install android sdk |
23:54 |
Peacock |
2) cry |
23:55 |
thexyz |
3) install this http://www.crystax.net/android/ndk.php |
23:55 |
thexyz |
(just download and unpack somewhere) |
23:55 |
PilzAdam |
4) cry |
23:55 |
Peacock |
lol |
23:55 |
RealBadAngel |
5) lol |
23:55 |
thexyz |
6) export ANDROID_NDK=/home/xyz/android-ndk-r8-crystax-1/ |
23:55 |
RealBadAngel |
btw https://github.com/Gnomescroll/Gnomescroll/commits/master |
23:55 |
thexyz |
then run build/android/build.sh |
23:55 |
thexyz |
that's all |
23:55 |
RealBadAngel |
take a look at commit names |
23:56 |
Peacock |
i dont know what it's like now, but i tried installing the SDK in linux some years ago, deer lord lol |
23:56 |
thexyz |
well you just apt-get install android-something |
23:57 |
Peacock |
well its probably gotten easier now |
23:57 |
thexyz |
or maybe there's no package for debian? |
23:57 |
Peacock |
lemme check |
23:57 |
RealBadAngel |
hmmm |
23:57 |
thexyz |
there're some packages in Archlinux User Repository |
23:57 |
thexyz |
and it shouldn't be that hard to install |
23:58 |
RealBadAngel |
those funny buttons from buildcraft are single png |
23:58 |
Peacock |
nope.avi, can't find android-* in wheezy |
23:58 |
thexyz |
it's really easy to compile it |
23:58 |
RealBadAngel |
and imho theyre nice |
23:59 |
thexyz |
much easier than to compile for winshit |
23:59 |
RealBadAngel |
we could use them in "revenge" ;) |
23:59 |
Peacock |
yeah that'll work out real well, especially if it turns out he stole those too :P |
23:59 |
RealBadAngel |
rotfl |