IRC log for #minetest, 2013-12-06

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00:05	PandemoniuM	i always try to research before asking questions again... that being said
00:05	PandemoniuM	what contains the visual_scale property lol
00:06	PandemoniuM	i checked its init.lua file, and searched for visual_scale for milkshape
00:06	sapier	it contains scaling information for entities
00:07	PandemoniuM	where do i find this thing to change it to make my model bigger
00:07	sapier	on entity registration but usually your mod should be big enough to have a reasonable size at default value ;-)
00:07	PandemoniuM	yeah its weird
00:08	PandemoniuM	i opened the helicopter model, made a new model using planes/cylindar/etc NEXT to it as to try to make it the same shape
00:08	PandemoniuM	removed the helicopter from the file and saved that as the heli.x model used in the mod
00:09	sapier	if you made it you can incrase it's size too
00:17	PandemoniuM	yep you nailed it
00:17	PandemoniuM	thats crazy. i made it the same size as the helicopter model
00:17	PandemoniuM	but it looks normal in its mod
00:17	PandemoniuM	but this works, thanks mate
00:18	danquebec_	ShadowNinja: Yay Minetest works. Thank you a lot, youâ€™re great!
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00:24	PandemoniuM	wanted to make a gun that a player can control
00:24	PandemoniuM	so i took the helicopter functionality and made it stationary so the user can get in this turret and they move around in it
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01:12	stormchaser3000	hi
01:13	EvergreenTree	hello
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02:11	jojoa1997	i dont remember but isn't there a minetest site to upload stuff. i think sfan5 made it
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04:20	kaeza	:\|
04:21	arsdragonfly	sfan5 your irc stats don't show the latest topic
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06:17	sfan5	arsdragonfly: updating right now
06:18	sfan5	also... IRC doesn't have multibyte support
06:18	sfan5	the clients have it
06:18	sfan5	IIRC
06:24	reactor	Watch the ball: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT22uXUI-vg
06:29	sfan5	!title
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06:29	sfan5	MinetestBot!
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07:34	tonyism	Oh wow.
07:34	VanessaE	?
07:34	reactor	VanessaE: how's the science?
07:34	tonyism	I expected to find this room dead. I didn't know minetest had a following, just found it.
07:35	VanessaE	tonyism: very much so, though at this time of night it's usually pretty quiet
07:35	VanessaE	it'll pick back up again in some hours
07:35	VanessaE	reactor: eh?
07:35	tonyism	Any of the devs hang out here?
07:37	reactor	#minetest-dev
07:37	VanessaE	some do
07:37	VanessaE	most are there ^^^ but you can't use the web chat to get there
07:37	VanessaE	(the webchat is muted on that channel)
07:37	reactor	Yeah really man.
07:37	reactor	Webchat is evil.
07:38	reactor	VanessaE: I would really like to see MT getting its own mailing list; what can be done about that?
07:38	VanessaE	reactor: there has been talk, but I believe the consensus was rather not to.
07:38	VanessaE	we all preferred IRC + the logs
07:39	reactor	the logs
07:39	reactor	?
07:39	VanessaE	http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev
07:39	reactor	OH.
07:39	reactor	Good.
07:39	VanessaE	this channel is also logged.
07:40	VanessaE	same site, minus "-dev"
07:40	reactor	Well, IRC logs are probably a good alternative.
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08:04	ungali	minetest is utterly amazing. Like heck ya. Nevar stop, developers
08:04	ungali	cats
08:05	reactor	cat(1)
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08:14	VanessaE	well I don't fall under the category of "developer" in this context, but I don't plan to stop any time soon at least.
08:14	VanessaE	:)
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09:35	JamesTait	Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Miners' Day! :)
09:35	JamesTait	Particularly apt in this channel, I feel. ;)
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12:40	sfan5	hi everyone
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13:11	Gethiox	hi oneevery
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14:13	sfan5	john_minetest: whats red and bad for your teeth?
14:14	sfan5	no, a brick
14:14	sfan5	whats grey and can't fly?
14:15	sfan5	a parking lot
14:15	sfan5	a green fox?
14:15	sfan5	haha
14:17	sfan5	whats brown and swims in water?
14:17	sfan5	an u-bread (this is funnier in german)
14:18	sfan5	<german> was ist grÃ¼n und klopft an der tÃ¼r? </german>
14:18	sfan5	<german> klopfsalat </german>
14:18	sfan5	:D
14:19	sfan5	<german> was liegt am strand und man versteht es nicht? </german>
14:19	sfan5	<german> Eine Nuschel! </german>
14:20	sfan5	:D
14:20	sfan5	<german> was ist orange und geht um den berg? </german>
14:21	sfan5	<german> nein, es ist eine wandarine </german>
14:22	sfan5	dunno
14:22	sfan5	who's there?
14:22	sfan5	:D
14:22	sfan5	s/:./\1:/
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14:35	OldCoder	john_minetest, Hi
14:37	OldCoder	john_minetest, switch to Nouveau
14:37	OldCoder	I used proprietary for a year or two
14:37	OldCoder	Nightmare
14:37	OldCoder	Then switch distros
14:37	OldCoder	Drop proprietary it is a dead end
14:37	OldCoder	Of course it is
14:37	OldCoder	I use Nouveau myself
14:37	OldCoder	Hm? How what?
14:38	OldCoder	Different distro and/or kernel rev may help
14:38	OldCoder	I have very good luck
14:38	OldCoder	Hmm
14:38	OldCoder	Not sure good idea but could try
14:38	OldCoder	May break other things
14:38	OldCoder	john_minetest, I tried to use proprietary
14:38	OldCoder	k
14:39	OldCoder	I ended up with 5 50MB or 100MB sets of installers
14:39	OldCoder	Because they dropped support for old cards and basically did not work
14:39	OldCoder	If worst comes to worst get a different machine; being locked in is no fun
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14:43	iqualfragile	john_minetest: which graka do you use?
14:44	iqualfragile	yeah, good luck with that
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15:02	PilzAdam	Hello everyone!
15:08	MinetestBot	GIT: ffrogger _zero_ at yahoo dot com commited to minetest/minetest: Improve (re)spawn, add cache_block_before_spawn and max_spawn_height settings 22dbbf0a6f 2013-12-05T13:09:02-08:00 http://git.io/
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15:18	harrison	a shetland pony walks into a bar
15:18	harrison	the bartender says
15:18	harrison	"there must be a cold going around this week....
15:18	harrison	i am a little hoarse too!"
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15:28	stormchaser3000	hi
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15:33	stormchaser3000	hi
15:41	Leoneof	hi
15:41	Leoneof	"ERROR[main]: Some exception: "Type is not convertible to string"
15:41	Leoneof	minetest: src/lib_json/json_value.cpp:492: Json::Value::~Value(): Assertion `false' failed."
15:41	Leoneof	fix it, now!
15:41	PilzAdam	^ proller
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15:47	proller	cat src/lib_json/json_value.cpp
15:47	proller	cat: src/lib_json/json_value.cpp: No such file or directory
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16:02	* Jordach	wants a button to ignore people's game requests...
16:03	* john_minetest	hands Jordach this button: [Ignore people's game request]
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16:07	specing	proller: haha
16:07	* specing	sees proller nail Leoneof to the wall
16:08	Leoneof	:D
16:11	Leoneof	proller: this minetest 0.4.6, debian sid
16:11	proller	wat??
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16:12	proller	q
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16:12	virtualfall	like my site? http://virtualfallsoftware.x10.mx/
16:12	Leoneof	proller: i'm using minetest 0.4.6, debian sid
16:13	proller	Leoneof, do not use old outdated soft
16:13	proller	current is 0.4.8
16:13	Leoneof	proller: i blame debian, will compile it
16:14	specing	Oh come on guys, CLIP PUBLIC SERVER has 8 of 12 people and it still says full
16:14	proller	debian use jsoncpp from system
16:14	specing	Leoneof: LOL .4.6?!
16:14	proller	specing, player number updating every 5 minutes
16:14	specing	-.-'
16:14	specing	proller: It was 10 before
16:15	specing	last time I checked
16:15	specing	~10 mins ago
16:15	specing	something is playing tricks with me
16:15	Leoneof	what's the best distro that has ALL ready packages?
16:15	proller	Leoneof, freebsd
16:16	Leoneof	notice, debian have ~50,000 packages
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16:17	proller	-data -dbg -src -blabal = 4 packages ?
16:17	proller	v0.1 v0.2 = x2 packages?
16:17	Exio4	Leoneof: apt-get update
16:18	proller	freebsd have 24529 ports
16:18	Leoneof	i do update everyday
16:18	Leoneof	proller: debian win :\
16:18	specing	v7 mapgen is nice
16:18	Exio4	Windows Multilingual User Interface Pack
16:19	Exio4	wee
16:19	specing	spawned me in a cave opening with walls higher than 2 blocks
16:19	Exio4	lol
16:19	specing	can't get out
16:19	proller	Leoneof, count unique software names pleas
16:19	Exio4	http://packages.debian.org/sid/minetest
16:19	specing	and theres like nothing other than cobblestone and some ores wherever I jump-look
16:19	Exio4	than stone
16:19	Exio4	not cobble
16:19	Leoneof	proller: brb, eating :]
16:19	Exio4	also, you should defime biomes for using it
16:19	Exio4	or you shouldn{t use it, better :>
16:19	proller	minetest in debian = 4 or more packages, in freebsd = one
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16:20	proller	~50,000/4 < 24529
16:20	proller	freebsd win.
16:20	Leoneof	oh i understand now
16:20	virtualfall	minetest foir Reats OS?
16:20	virtualfall	React OS
16:20	virtualfall	For
16:20	Exio4	you should try windows builds
16:22	Exio4	i don't know how freebsd would handle a wifi dongle that, under linux, i need to run with hacks
16:22	virtualfall	minetest for Game Consoles is possible?
16:23	Exio4	virtualfall: italian? :P
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16:23	EBMthecrafter	hi
16:24	specing	4.8-dev loads slower than 4.8
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16:25	virtualfall	yes
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16:26	kaeza	afternoons
16:26	virtualfall	im are the founder of Virtual Fall Software: http://virtualfallsoftware.x10.mx/
16:26	virtualfall	my friend is the creator of: http://rustedlogic.net/
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16:31	virtualfall	goodbay! ;)
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16:32	TheBestMT	!up LinuxGaming.us
16:32	MinetestBot	LinuxGaming.us:30000 is up (282ms)
16:32	TheBestMT	Hi Giys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
16:33	ShadowNinja	Hello TheBestMT!
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16:33	TheBestMT	ShadownNinja, what server do you play on?
16:33	ShadowNinja	TheBestMT: Mine and Vanessa's mostly.
16:34	TheBestMT	You have a server?
16:34	ShadowNinja	TheBestMT: Yes, it's on the serverlist.
16:35	TheBestMT	What build do you use of MT?
16:36	ShadowNinja	TheBestMT: I compile it myself off git master.
16:36	TheBestMT	Yeah me too...
16:38	TheBestMT	I used to use Minetest++ by stfan5!
16:39	TheBestMT	I play on LinuxGaming.us, or Craig;s Survival Server!
16:40	TheBestMT	PilzAdam?
16:40	TheBestMT	Pilzadam?
16:40	TheBestMT	Pilzadam?
16:41	TheBestMT	Pilzadam, are you there?
16:41	PilzAdam	suuuuuuuuuuuuup?
16:41	TheBestMT	Hi man
16:41	TheBestMT	are you there
16:42	TheBestMT	Are you the PilzAdam that made the famous build>
16:42	specing	Hmm
16:42	specing	Why is the git minetest not using ~/.minetest?
16:43	specing	is it because of -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 ?
16:43	PilzAdam	specing, yes
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16:43	specing	I thought that was for running binaries outside of /usr/, hmmm
16:43	PilzAdam	DRUN_IN_PLACE=0 and sudo make install after make will help you
16:44	specing	I'd still like to only have it in ./bin
16:44	George_	does anyone have a traffic light mod
16:44	George_	which i can download
16:44	George_	and works
16:44	specing	PilzAdam: is -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0 ./bin/minetest going to work?
16:44	PilzAdam	dunno
16:44	PilzAdam	test it ;-)
16:44	specing	ok
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16:47	Leoneof	how to run minetest with one core of cpu? if possible
16:49	specing	lel
16:49	specing	htop -> select minetest -> press a
16:50	Leoneof	good idea
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16:50	MinetestBot	IOError: [Errno socket error] [Errno 110] Connection timed out (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/socket.py", line 571, in create_connection)
16:51	specing	too many users
16:51	ShadowNinja	specing: Probably not. It should make a systemwide install. There may be a way to get it to use ~/.minetest, but I don't know of it.
16:51	specing	AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
16:51	ShadowNinja	sfan5: ^
16:51	kaeza	George_, this one? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2984
16:51	sfan5	wat
16:51	George_	let me have a loock please
16:51	sfan5	wat
16:51	George_	1 min
16:51	sfan5	just what
16:51	specing	ShadowNinja: ./bin/minetest works
16:51	sfan5	MinetestBot: wat are your doin
16:52	MinetestBot	IOError: [Errno socket error] [Errno 110] Connection timed out (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/socket.py", line 571, in create_connection)
16:52	kaeza	lol
16:52	ShadowNinja	specing: Oh, good. :-)
16:52	sfan5	it can't connect to github
16:53	ShadowNinja	In my setup GitHub connects to ME. :-)
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16:53	sfan5	yes, I know that that works too
16:53	kaeza	in soviet russia, gihub connect you!
16:53	kaeza	+t
16:53	VanessaE	in soviet russia, github clones you?
16:53	ShadowNinja	Unfourtunately GitHub webhooks are admin/owner only. :-(
16:54	George_	i have it but i don't get how to use the traffic lights
16:54	Jordach	hey VanessaE
16:54	* VanessaE	hides
16:54	ShadowNinja	I'm not sure why that is.
16:54	specing	ShadowNinja: it uses ~/.minetest
16:54	ShadowNinja	specing: Good.
16:54	Jordach	VanessaE, browsing imgur, find a streaker on american ninja
16:55	Jordach	and laughed my fucking tits off
16:55	specing	Erm huys
16:55	specing	-dev is ultra bugged
16:55	specing	glass is not transparent
16:55	specing	or is that due to .4.8 textures in ~/.minetest?
16:56	ShadowNinja	specing: Maybe shaders are messed up. Disable them.
16:56	VanessaE	specing: update your copy of minetest
16:56	VanessaE	that bug was already fixed.
16:56	sfan5	wow.. only 70 minetest_game textures are without alpha channel
16:56	ShadowNinja	VanessaE: That never went into master, right?
16:56	George_	i don't get this mod https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4822 because it asks you to download loads of other mods could someone please spare some time to make a mod pack with all the stuff i need
16:57	George_	sorry
16:57	specing	VanessaE: I just pulled it 30 minutest ago...
16:57	VanessaE	ShadowNinja: current master has working shaders
16:57	specing	VanessaE: from github
16:57	specing	VanessaE: and minetest_game
16:57	VanessaE	well it had when I pulled a day or so ago
16:57	George_	ok
16:57	specing	VanessaE: maybe it got unfixed?
16:57	VanessaE	the thing where RBA broke all transparent-bearing objects got fixed.
16:57	George_	do you understand it
16:57	* VanessaE	pulls and checks.
16:57	ShadowNinja	VanessaE: Yes, but shaders weren't merged until the transparency bug was fixed, right?
16:58	George_	?
16:58	George_	confused
16:58	George_	its just i dont get how to use it because it talks abaut 5 other mods i think
16:59	ShadowNinja	George_: It doesn't depend on all that much. Just two mods.
16:59	George_	ok
16:59	George_	sorry i
16:59	George_	get confused
16:59	George_	easaly
16:59	George_	spelt rong
16:59	VanessaE	Just download moreblocks, mesecons, and install them.
16:59	George_	ok
17:00	George_	one min
17:00	VanessaE	the thing he mentions about wool being colorable, is already possible in minetest_game by default.
17:00	George_	ok
17:01	VanessaE	ShadowNinja: current HEAD works fine for me.
17:01	Jordach	VanessaE, i might have an iron addiction problem :(
17:01	Jordach	i have 5 full stacks of em
17:01	George_	i have done it
17:01	George_	but i can't see the stuff in my invetry
17:01	George_	?
17:01	Leoneof	cmake is awesome
17:01	VanessaE	George_: now make sure the folder names are correct, make sure you put them in the right place, and enable them in your world's config screen
17:02	George_	i have
17:02	George_	i have?
17:02	George_	?
17:02	George_
17:02	VanessaE	('moreblocks' and 'minetest-mod-mesecons' are the usual names for those two, the latter one is anything you want it to be, as it's actually a modpack)
17:02	VanessaE	I don't know -- have you?
17:03	George_	i named them that
17:03	George_	do you want me to send debug
17:03	VanessaE	no
17:03	VanessaE	just enable them in your world's configure screen now
17:03	George_	i have
17:03	George_	?
17:04	kaeza	nice... HybridDog keeps deleting his posts ._.
17:04	George_
17:04	VanessaE	ShadowNinja: and yeah, I seem to remember that the transparency glitch was fixed prior to the shaders being merged upstream, but as specing suggests, maybe for some folks it got un-fixed.
17:04	VanessaE	ShadowNinja: Sokomine can't use the shaders either, nor can cheapie
17:05	VanessaE	(for sokomine, everything turns black except the sky, for cheapie there's black "tv static" on most solid surfaces)
17:05	Leoneof	how did you collect all those 90 users in few years? :)
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17:07	ShadowNinja	Leoneof: Sometimes there are >100. But this channel only represents a portion of the Minetest community.
17:08	VanessaE	the insane portion ;)
17:08	kaeza	^
17:08	ShadowNinja	>:-)
17:09	Jordach	nope.avi
17:09	George_
17:09	George_
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17:10	Jordach	wat
17:10	Jordach	wat wat wat
17:10	kaeza	wat
17:10	VanessaE	wat wat
17:10	Jordach	wat
17:11	Jordach	george_ wasn't even talking
17:11	ShadowNinja	:-D
17:11	* Jordach	doesn't understand
17:12	Jordach	...Mysteries of #minetest ?
17:12	ShadowNinja	Jordach: He was, he send empty messages, maybe your client didn't show them.
17:12	VanessaE	it was censored
17:12	Jordach	ShadowNinja, ah
17:12	Jordach	Quassel being #1 again i see
17:12	VanessaE	[12-06 12:09] <George_> [redacted]
17:12	VanessaE	see?
17:12	Jordach	weird
17:12	ShadowNinja	http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6530672/
17:12	Jordach	hold on
17:12	Jordach	[redacted]
17:12	Jordach	shows for me
17:13	ShadowNinja	Jordach: Huh, I'm using quassel. Maybe you have a setting set for that.
17:13	Jordach	oh wait, he's doing the oldcoder
17:13	Jordach	where he makes new lines for no reason
17:13	VanessaE	Jordach: actually he has a reason for that
17:13	kaeza	oh, http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-12-06#i_3473839
17:13	Jordach	hm?
17:13	VanessaE	he does it as a divider.
17:13	ShadowNinja	"The OldCoder" :-D He uses them for paragraphs.
17:13	Jordach	oh
17:13	VanessaE	like writing //-------------- in your sources
17:14	Jordach	right
17:15	Jordach	VanessaE, i really need to stop mining
17:15	Jordach	it's soo addictive :D
17:15	* Jordach	could build a legit steel suspension bridge
17:16	VanessaE	Jordach: all the more reason to keep mining
17:16	VanessaE	but find something useful to do with all those ores
17:16	Jordach	crap, now onto the next fucking stack of steel blocks
17:16	VanessaE	we need something kick-ass to make with steel blocks now
17:17	Jordach	VanessaE, make more mining drills, grief the fucking caves so nobody can start again
17:17	VanessaE	what if they can be transmuted into something else?
17:17	Jordach	at the rate i'm going i'm most likely the economic super power
17:17	VanessaE	think about it a sec
17:17	VanessaE	I don't mean like philosopher's stone type of stuff
17:17	VanessaE	more like raw feedstock for a replicator mod
17:18	VanessaE	in goes steel blocks (being basically the most stable form of matter according to current science), add HV technic power, out comes...whatever you want?
17:18	VanessaE	but at a high cost
17:19	Jordach	VanessaE, http://tekkitclassic.wikia.com/wiki/Energy_Condenser
17:19	VanessaE	a mese block might take a dozen or more steel blocks, etc.
17:19	Jordach	you mean that in a nutshell
17:19	VanessaE	naw
17:19	VanessaE	nothing like that
17:20	VanessaE	I mean more like a Star Trek Replicator, with technic HV as its power source.
17:20	Jordach	VanessaE, stick items in, get chosen items out minus the need for HV
17:20	Jordach	(each item has a EMC rating, 1 being the lowest to reproduce, while some are in the millions)
17:20	VanessaE	hm
17:20	VanessaE	well then maybe yeah
17:20	VanessaE	but
17:20	Jordach	VanessaE, you know why i'm so fucking rich? i've played Tekkit Classic
17:21	VanessaE	given the nature of a minetest world and the sheer abundance of things like iron,
17:21	VanessaE	we need a more expensive conversion
17:21	VanessaE	(hence the technic suggestion)
17:22	VanessaE	but like Star Trek, there needs to be one material it can't reproduce. something valuable.
17:22	VanessaE	but what?
17:22	VanessaE	we don't exactly have Gold-pressed Latinum
17:23	Jordach	VanessaE, here's my endgame of Tekkit: http://imgur.com/a/AMUeB
17:23	Jordach	a self fueling nuclear reactor
17:23	Jordach	all by the power of EMC
17:23	VanessaE	looks like a typical pipeworks installation :)
17:24	Jordach	VanessaE, i'm using alchemy (or your suggested method) to create everything
17:24	Jordach	it even builds it's own fuek
17:24	Jordach	fuel*
17:24	VanessaE	that timer-rotor object from redstone (third screenshot)...why don't we have that thing in mesecons yet?
17:24	pitriss	Hi, please i want to ask about pipeworks.. Whats difference between normal tubes crossing and crossing tubes ?
17:24	Jordach	VanessaE, clocking on i see? ;)
17:25	VanessaE	pitriss: eh?
17:25	VanessaE	normal tubes crossing and crossing tubes?
17:25	* VanessaE	checks the inventoryu
17:25	Jordach	VanessaE, we should have a fourth tier of power: EXTREME VOLTAGE (touching the cable = death!)
17:25	pitriss	VanessaE: I see something called "crossing tube segment"
17:25	VanessaE	OH
17:26	VanessaE	right
17:26	VanessaE	I think the crossing is like a mesecons crossing - objects won't ever turn a corner there
17:26	pitriss	it is greenish but I don't understand its purpose.:)
17:26	VanessaE	whereas in a normal crossed tubes junction, they can
17:26	Jordach	they're like insulated mesecons (?)
17:27	pitriss	ahh so if this crossing is used then object go straight every pass through
17:27	VanessaE	like an insulated mesecons crossing yeah
17:27	VanessaE	Jordach: I think I could agree with that - but what would you power with EV?
17:27	Jordach	VanessaE, nuclear reactors could power the thing you were talking about
17:27	VanessaE	Jordach: yes. that's HV.
17:28	VanessaE	EV would require a matter-antimatter reaction
17:28	Jordach	EV would be things that require the reactor on it's own to power
17:28	VanessaE	Warp Drive anyone? :)
17:28	Jordach	such as larger forcefields, stargates
17:28	VanessaE	so now we need a way to generate antimatter (at a rate sufficient to fuel a M-AM reactor continuously)
17:29	Jordach	well, to make anti-matter in tekkit, you need a shit ton of diamonds
17:29	VanessaE	tekkit has antimatter?
17:29	VanessaE	well shit.
17:29	Jordach	yes
17:30	VanessaE	then we need something new
17:30	Jordach	mese-matter
17:30	VanessaE	quantum energy?
17:30	Jordach	same job, different name
17:30	Jordach	nobody knows what mese actually is
17:30	iqualfragile	is there some way to use both, ipv4 and 6 in minetest at the same time?
17:30	Jordach	VanessaE, enriched Mese-Matter is an even higher tier than Mese-Matter
17:31	sfan5	Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/pG2xuzC.png
17:31	VanessaE	celeron says it's an alien artifact with a plastic-like consistency. I say it's that with a crystalline structure like quartz. conductive, with a natural power.
17:31	Jordach	sfan5, wat
17:32	sfan5	does that look better or not?
17:32	Jordach	no idea
17:32	Jordach	drop that on evergreen's topic
17:32	sfan5	I ran it through an xBRZ filter ( https://gist.github.com/sfan5/7827430#file-xbrzscale-py )
17:32	sfan5	link plz
17:32	Jordach	sfan5, you're a fucking moderator, do it
17:33	VanessaE	wait, wht?
17:33	Jordach	VanessaE, Mese is kind of a super structure
17:33	Jordach	tough, resiliant to damage
17:33	Jordach	affects other particles
17:34	VanessaE	nod
17:34	Jordach	under enough compression the crystals merge and become harder than diamonds
17:34	VanessaE	and they demonstrate an incredibly powerful peizoelectric effect
17:34	Jordach	(and with the right enrichment, more radioactive and can create and destroy matter)
17:35	Jordach	a mese based nuclear reactor to generate the energy for the replicator
17:35	Jordach	under EMV (Enriched Mese Voltage - some sort of magic energy)
17:36	VanessaE	let's avoid anything that suggests magic though
17:36	Jordach	VanessaE, it powers both mesecons circuits and technic wires
17:36	VanessaE	this should play entirely on mese's naturally-occurring quantum/nuclear properties
17:36	Jordach	(and unlike normal reactors, it doesn't go boom)
17:37	sfan5	Jordach: which topic by evergreen exactly?
17:37	MinetestBot	GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Fix small mistake in Lua API docs e15681080e 2013-12-06T09:37:32-08:00 http://git.io/If4ugw
17:39	Jordach	sfan5, texture packs
17:39	Jordach	look under the topic
17:39	Jordach	minetest-faithful
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17:39	sfan5	ah, ok
17:39	Jordach	ctrl + f : faithful
17:39	Jordach	brb - food
17:45	kaeza	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7935
17:46	kaeza	he is spanish and Minetest/gettext/whatever is choosing chinese as language?
17:47	kaeza	now that's fucked up...
17:47	kaeza	also >0.4.7
17:48	specing	Can you somehow climb ladders faster?
17:48	kaeza	space+E
17:48	kaeza	(if you have fast priv)
17:54	Leoneof	20:53:51: ERROR[main]: generateImage(): Could not load image "invisible.png" while building texture
17:54	Leoneof	fix it, now!
17:55	proller	0.4.8 ?
17:56	Leoneof	git version
17:56	Leoneof	and
17:56	Leoneof	20:53:51: ERROR[main]: generateImage(): Creating a dummy image for "invisible.png"
17:56	kaeza	Leoneof, invisible.png is not in default
17:57	kaeza	a quick search on mmy system gives a texture in both moreblocks and MOBF
17:57	kaeza	-m
17:57	Leoneof	i don't know how, but that's what i get
17:58	kaeza	which os?
17:58	Leoneof	maybe this error is related to Clip server
17:58	Leoneof	linux
17:58	kaeza	try `find . -name 'invisible.png'`
17:59	kaeza	ah
17:59	kaeza	then maybe the server doesn't have that texture
18:00	Leoneof	:[
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18:03	Jordach	<Spotify - Linux Preview> Error while loading skin.
18:03	Jordach	^ wat
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18:07	kaeza	Leoneof, you may want to report that on to the server admin and tell him/her to check if the texture is available
18:08	kaeza	-on
18:14	sfan5	!op
18:14		Topic for #minetest is now 0.4.8 is released! \| Website: http://minetest.net \| Rules: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| Core Devs: #minetest-dev \| Servers: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| IRC stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html \| NekoGloopã¯çŒ«ã§ã™ã€‚Evergreenã¯æœ¨ã§ã™ã€‚
18:14	sfan5	!deop
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18:16	ShadowNinja	sfan5: What did you change?
18:16	Jordach	sfan5, wat
18:16	Jordach	NekoGloopã¯çŒ«ã§ã™ã€‚Evergreenã¯æœ¨ã§ã™ã€‚"
18:17	sfan5	ShadowBot: s/EvergreenTree/Evergreen/
18:18	ShadowNinja	Ah.
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18:18	PilzAdam	I thought this was an english channel...
18:18	Jordach	!op
18:18		Topic for #minetest is now 0.4.8 is released! \| Website: http://minetest.net \| Rules: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| Core Devs: #minetest-dev \| Servers: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| IRC stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html \| NekoGloopã¯çŒ«ã§ã™ã€‚EvergreenTreeã¯æœ¨ã§ã™ã€‚
18:18	Jordach	!deop
18:18	Jordach	fixed :p
18:19	kaeza	ã‚ˆã‚Šå¤šãã®ãƒ‡ã‚¹ãŒå¿…è¦ã§ã™
18:19	Leoneof	!op
18:19	sfan5	wat
18:19	sfan5	!op
18:19		Topic for #minetest is now 0.4.8 is released! \| Website: http://minetest.net \| Rules: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| Core Devs: #minetest-dev \| Servers: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| IRC stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html \| NekoGloopã¯çŒ«ã§ã™ã€‚Evergreenã¯æœ¨ã§ã™ã€‚
18:19	sfan5	!deop
18:19	kaeza	stupid google translate O_o
18:19	Jordach	[18:17:56] <sfan5> ShadowBot: s/EvergreenTree/Evergreen/
18:19	Jordach	does not compute
18:20	kaeza	"needs more desu" â†’ "ã‚ˆã‚Šå¤šãã®ãƒ‡ã‚¹ãŒå¿…è¦ã§ã™" â†’ "Death requires more"
18:20	kaeza	o wait
18:20	* Jordach	is now at -3.2km down :D
18:20	* Jordach	wants to see this: http://wiki.minetest.net/Calinous_Law
18:22	ShadowNinja	Jordach: That won't happen unless kwoekr's ore scarcity ramp patch is added.
18:22	ShadowNinja	+l
18:22	Jordach	aw
18:22	* kaeza	needs coffee
18:22	Jordach	ShadowNinja, stop runing people's fubn
18:22	Jordach	fun*
18:23	ShadowNinja	(Or you do it on purpose.
18:23	ShadowNinja	)
18:23	PilzAdam	"PilzAdam's Law: PilzAdam's law states that the more non-voxel nodes you have in your game, the more boring it gets. This law is known to be the ultimate truth"
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18:23	kaeza	um no
18:23	* ShadowNinja	makes a voxel-free game. :-D
18:24	Jordach	<PilzAdam> ShadowNinja, then why play minetest?
18:24	* ShadowNinja	makes Jordach play his game.
18:24	sfan5	kaeza: that would be â€ã§ã™â€ã‚‚ã£ã¨ã„ã‚‹
18:24	Jordach	how about no, you freaky deaky dutch bastarfd
18:24	Jordach	-f
18:24	ShadowNinja	Gah, docky keeps dieing now.
18:25	khonkhortisan	dieing is not a word
18:25	kaeza	sfan5, ah :P
18:25	Jordach	my aim for a distro is: it looks good (in black) and is pretty damn simple to work with
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18:26	PilzAdam	why is this article in the user wiki? http://wiki.minetest.net/Groups
18:26	ShadowNinja	john_minetest: A theoretical voxel-node-free game.
18:26	PilzAdam	and why does it mix engine defined groups with minetest_game defined groups?
18:27	ShadowNinja	Wuzzy2: ^
18:30	Wuzzy2	Itâ€™s in the wiki because â€¦ why not? ;-)
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18:33	PilzAdam	because its useless information for users
18:33	PilzAdam	its only useful for modders
18:33	PilzAdam	also its incomplete/wrong
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18:42	TheBestMT	GI
18:42	TheBestMT	HI
18:42	TheBestMT	HI
18:42	TheBestMT	HI
18:42		TheBestMT was kicked by ShadowBot: Message repetition flood detected.
18:46	Jordach	yay
18:46	Jordach	new /home/jordach/Desktop icons get
18:46	specing	what is the fastest pickaxe to mine obsidian with?
18:47	specing	I dont have mese
18:47	specing	steel is slow and wears out fast
18:47	kaeza	diamond or mese
18:47	Jordach	http://i.imgur.com/6HvfdTD.png
18:48	* Jordach	will replace the launcher icons at some point
18:48	kaeza	niiice
18:48	Jordach	16px icons ftw
18:48	Jordach	greybird + grey icons
18:48	Jordach	i had to hack around the trash can
18:48	kaeza	the desktop icons are a bit dull though
18:48	Jordach	kaeza, that's the point
18:48	Jordach	gnome icons don't fit :D
18:49	kaeza	https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/Screenshot%20from%202013-11-16%2023%3A24%3A30.jpg
18:49	Jordach	(blue + grey != nice feels)
18:49	* Jordach	hears this: <VanessaE> blerp ba-da-blerp ba-da-blerp ba-da-blearp
18:49	Jordach	my phone just got a message :(
18:49	ShadowNinja	john_minetest: One came here a while ago, but I haven't heard of any recently.
18:50	Jordach	Calinou, yes, i use your damn wallpapers
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18:52	Jordach	yay, turning my machine into the 8bit dream machine
18:52	Jordach	(my folders on the desktop are actually .files)
18:53	kaeza	.files?
18:54	Jordach	eg, hidden folders
18:54	kaeza	ah
18:55	Leoneof	good to see xfce everywhere
18:55	Jordach	i've just used launchers (hint, command thunar /home/jordach/Desktop/.minetest/ is legal
18:58	Jordach	oh there we go
18:58	Jordach	http://i.imgur.com/I2UgwIQ.png
18:58	Jordach	kaeza, ^
18:58	sfan5	kaeza: what is your desktop bg from?
18:58	Jordach	uhm
18:58	kaeza	sfan5, Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt
18:58	ShadowNinja	john_minetest: Wait, Gambit's an op, and he's been arround recently, I think.
18:59	* Jordach	might have infinite spotify time...
18:59	sfan5	ah
18:59	* sfan5	haz spotify unlimited
18:59	Jordach	i might not have just hexeditored the program memory from root
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18:59	Calinou	* sfan5 haz spotify unlimited
18:59	Calinou	lol, you have to be proud of it
19:00	sfan5	:D
19:00	Calinou	due to how few users pay :P
19:00	Jordach	there's a byte designated for subscription service
19:00	fixed	hi minetesters... how to tell what mods are active. i installed a mobs-mod but still i see no monsters :,(
19:00	Jordach	fixed, they need time to spawn
19:01	fixed	more than one "day" in-game?
19:02	fixed	one night that is
19:03	sfan5	type /mods
19:03	fixed	invalid command
19:03	fixed	i guess i did'nt get it installed right then
19:03	sfan5	no
19:04	sfan5	/mods shouldn't be an invalid command..
19:04	sfan5	which minetest version do you have?
19:04	fixed	ah sorry wait
19:04	fixed	i get some mods.. but not the mobs one
19:05	fixed	i get bones bucket creative stairs fire default...
19:05	* Jordach	has balls http://i.imgur.com/Olp379a.png
19:05	sfan5	Jordach: http://youtu.be/e0pqb_eVo5k
19:05	Jordach	look at that volume level
19:05	Jordach	not even distorting :D
19:06	sfan5	fixed: enable the mobs mod in the "Configure" menu of your worls
19:06	sfan5	world*
19:06	Jordach	sfan5, i already have shaders enabled
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19:07	Jordach	sfan5, http://i.imgur.com/iNajaYk.png
19:07	sfan5	the shaders are awesome
19:07	sfan5	wat
19:07	sfan5	the
19:08	sfan5	I can't write the
19:08	fixed	Jordach: hmm... nothing appears in the configure menu. it says "Mods: N/A"
19:08	sfan5	I mean t e h
19:08	sfan5	fixed: how did you install the mod?
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19:08	kaeza	IRC client stop correcting my words, you useless piece of shut
19:09	* Jordach	doesn't have that issue
19:09	Jordach	got an issue? 'ave a tissue
19:09	Jordach	NO. NOOOOO. NOOOOOOOOOOOO.
19:10	fixed	downloaded PilzAdam-mobs-c49cc47.zip and the MiniTest-master.zip mods. created the ~/.minetest folder. unzipped the content of miiTest-master into ~/.minetest
19:10	sfan5	oh
19:10	fixed	then i unzipped pilzAdam-mobs-c... into the ~/.minetest/mods
19:11	kaeza	minitest goes in minetest/games
19:11	sfan5	^
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19:11	kaeza	wat
19:11	sfan5	kaeza: what was my part message?
19:11	fixed	in home directory?
19:11	kaeza	[17:11:24] <-- sfan5 (~sfan52a01:4f8:151:8106::2) has left #minetest ("ç§ã¯çŒ«ã§ã™")
19:11	sfan5	ok, good
19:11	sfan5	fixed: ~/.minetest/mods
19:12	* Jordach	doesn't mind Japanese culture, but if it goes too far...
19:12	sfan5	you don't even know what it says
19:13	us}0gb	My font doesn't even support those characters. Even if I knew Japanese, I wouldn't know what it says.
19:13	sfan5	japanese is simple
19:13	Jordach	sfan5, my brother is as bad as you are
19:14	sfan5	(well.. in romanji, not kanji)
19:14	sfan5	Jordach: bad in what?
19:14	Jordach	watching too much anime
19:14	sfan5	you can't watch too much anime!
19:14	kaeza	^
19:14	Jordach	uhm
19:15	Jordach	how will one goto school or get a job?
19:15	kaeza	in a Gundam Suit!
19:15	sfan5	hahaha
19:16	Jordach	meh. who needs google glass when i have 45% opacity green perspex glass
19:16	Jordach	(+ a microprojector and android)
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19:19	Jordach	btw, i've worked out decent falling and hurt sounds for mt_game
19:20	Jordach	a crunch (similar to breaking a twig loudly) for fall damage, and some sort of meat cutting sound (perhaps with a clunk somewhere?)
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19:34	fixed	strange stuff... the mobs mod works if i put it in worldmods/mods
19:34	fixed	but i cant make it work any other way
19:35	PilzAdam	have you enabled the mod in the GUI for your world after puttin it in $path_user/mods/ ?
19:37	fixed	hi PilzAdam :) thanks for making mods!!!
19:37	fixed	i love it!
19:38	fixed	i may be a little noob... when you say $path_user/mods/ are you then refering to ~/.minetest/mods?
19:38	PilzAdam	if you have a system-wide installation then yes
19:38	fixed	i run debian on my laptop :)
19:38	fixed	only
19:39	fixed	well... the thing is... after putting "mobs" into ~/.minetest/mods i dont get an option to enable it in the gui
19:39	fixed	for some reason unknown
19:43	Jordach	fixed, what version (look in the top left)
19:44	* Jordach	thinks it's happy wheels time
19:44	sfan5	Jordach: wanna openspades?
19:44	Jordach	nah
19:44	Jordach	happy wheels ftw
19:44	sfan5	:(
19:44	fixed	0.4.6
19:45	fixed	i have sheeps now :). still not been killed by some evil monster :)
19:45	sfan5	Jordach: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=120985#p120985
19:45	sfan5	fixed: update to 0.4.8
19:47	fixed	sfan5: hmm... then i think i have to add sid repo to my sources... i think the debian jessie repo only have 4.6
19:48	Calinou	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=120923#p120923
19:48	Calinou	RIP means nothing and means you don't care much
19:48	Calinou	also
19:48	* Calinou	writes "WE KNOW" with wooden planks
19:50	fixed	sfan5: i think i'm ok for now on 0.4.6. it seems that monsters are spawning... just not near me yet... :). but i will read about the 0.4.8 version now
19:50	PilzAdam	<Calinou> RIP means nothing and means you don't care much <- what the fuck
19:50	sfan5	0.4.8 is really much better
19:50	PilzAdam	Calinou, do you even read what you say?
19:50	Calinou	if you cared, you would have written something more useful
19:50	Calinou	yes I do
19:51	PilzAdam	"it means nothing and it means something"
19:51	PilzAdam	true logic
19:51	PilzAdam	slowclap
19:55	Jordach	ooh
19:55	Jordach	anyone up for xonotic or red eclipse?
19:56	PilzAdam	Jordach, good that you dont even consider playing Minetest :-p
19:56	Jordach	PilzAdam, i played for a few hours earlier
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20:03	sfan5	Jordach: yes, /me wants xonotic
20:08	proller	http://freeminer.org/ - version 0.4.8.2 released!
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20:18	thexyz	http://i.imgur.com/Ctx77yg.png
20:18	thexyz	sfan5: ^
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20:25	sfan5	thexyz: nice
20:25	sfan5	proller: this is #minetest not #freeminer
20:25	sfan5	thexyz: what was the problem?
20:26	khonkhortisan	I'll play xonotic
20:26	* sfan5	is already done playing xonotic
20:27	thexyz	sfan5: oh sorry i accidentally freeminer pic, won't do this anymore here
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20:28	PilzAdam	proller, freeminer seems more laggy than Minetest
20:28	PilzAdam	I get dugged nodes reverted even in singleplayer
20:28	sfan5	dug*
20:29	PilzAdam	wtf? this is buggy
20:31	PilzAdam	oh, is this supposed to be that "flowing dirt" suff?
20:34	proller	yep
20:34	PilzAdam	and now its rainging in the desert
20:34	PilzAdam	at 30 FPS
20:35	fixed	i run minetest on a little small eee... no lag... it runs great :)
20:36	PilzAdam	dirt with grass and grass keeps "flying" in the air if dirt "flows" away
20:36	Jordach	freeminer is shit, minetest is better
20:36	fixed	Pilz - its like a poem ;)
20:37	PilzAdam	and walking off nodes feels like flying
20:37	fixed	S
20:39	fixed	im getting a beer while i make copper :)
20:39	PilzAdam	and the mapgen is sloow
20:40	PilzAdam	an ice lake in the middle of a desert
20:43	proller	PilzAdam, fully dynamic biomes now WIP and not complete
20:43	proller	fps 30 - look at view range
20:43	PilzAdam	either mapgen or sending blocks to client is horribly slow
20:43	PilzAdam	Im waiting for a mapblock for _over a minute_ now
20:43	proller	95% mapgen
20:43	PilzAdam	the view range is at 20 nodes with 30 FPS
20:43	proller	its bug
20:43	PilzAdam	in Minetst I get 60 with > 200 nodes view range
20:44	proller	particles is slow
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20:45	PilzAdam	"90% lag free" â€“ more like "100% lag on top of Minetests!"
20:48	Leoneof	this channel never sleep :]
20:50	PilzAdam	maybe you shouldnt generate sand and dirt in the floatlands if they will "flow away"?
20:52	PilzAdam	and it eats > 90% of my RAM
20:52	PilzAdam	(probably the VBO leak)
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21:01	proller	PilzAdam, floatlands must contain all needed for surviving blocks, maybe generate sand and dirt inside floatland, but it harder
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21:01	PilzAdam	john_minetest, I guess zlib does a pretty good work about that
21:04	PilzAdam	exists an injective function f: #ages -> \|N ?
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21:07	proller	john_minetest, ****miner can generate ~80 nodes per second when you falling, but now seems need some optimizing again
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21:09	proller	or right now with disabled weather
21:15	Jordach	proller, fuckminer :D
21:16	proller	john_minetest, please, make better
21:16	khonkhortisan	it has to disappear on collision instead of falling through anything
21:17	proller	checking lighting - bad way to do anything, and trees to
21:18	khonkhortisan	torchrain
21:18	proller	light must me dynamic and 3d
21:18	khonkhortisan	flashlight rain
21:18	Calinou	Jordach, shitminer
21:18	Calinou	(I actually don't dislike freeminer...)
21:18	Jordach	hahA
21:21	PilzAdam	<proller> john_minetest, please, make better <- freeminer dev begging Minetest users to code for them :-)
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22:31	* Jordach	matched a world record in minetest
22:31	Jordach	my speed matched the world's fastest skydiver (doing the same thing!)
22:36	proller	how much&
22:36	proller	?
22:36	Jordach	i reached 0.32km/S
22:36	proller	and stuck in loading block?
22:36	Jordach	you will need a several KM deep tunnel
22:36	Jordach	proller, i loaded the chunks, then did it again
22:36	proller	or teleport +30000
22:36	Warr1024	sfan5's IRC stats are pretty neat, but I don't see any indication on there what timezone those times are in...?
22:37	sfan5	gmt+2
22:37	proller	in ****miner your max speed is limited ;)
22:37	sfan5	(the one of berlin)
22:37	Warr1024	ah cool, thanks.
22:37	Warr1024	now I just have to do tz math and not get it exactly backwards :-)
22:39	Warr1024	do you observe daylight savings time in Europe?
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22:42	sapier	https://github.com/sapier/adv_spawning first prototype for advanced spawning mod
22:44	fairiestoy	entity spawning only. Tyyical spawn rate will be a low single digit count of <<<< Tyyical == Typical?
22:46	sapier	yes thanks :-)
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22:54	Warr1024	also achiev
22:55	sapier	correct is?
22:55	Warr1024	achieve, I think?
22:55	sapier	I don't know I always write this word wrong
22:55	Warr1024	damn, it's one of those words that you know you know how to spell, but when you look at it, it doesn't look right now matter how you spell it...
22:56	Warr1024	well, there's always aspell, I guess.
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23:18	sfan5	oshit
23:19	sfan5	!g sigbus
23:19	MinetestBot	sfan5: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segmentation_fault
23:19	sfan5	every app segfaults...
23:19	sfan5	s/app/application/
23:19	sfan5	wat, I can't even dmesg
23:20	sfan5	/usr/bin/clear segfaults
23:20	sfan5	wat's going on?
23:21	Jordach	lol lol lol lol
23:21	Jordach	sfan5, quick fix: sudo rm -fR *
23:22	sapier	hmmm maybee you already did what jordach suggested ;-)
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