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00:05 PandemoniuM i always try to research before asking questions again... that being said
00:05 PandemoniuM what contains the visual_scale property lol
00:06 PandemoniuM i checked its init.lua file, and searched for visual_scale for milkshape
00:06 sapier it contains scaling information for entities
00:07 PandemoniuM where do i find this thing to change it to make my model bigger
00:07 sapier on entity registration but usually your mod should be big enough to have a reasonable size at default value ;-)
00:07 PandemoniuM yeah its weird
00:08 PandemoniuM i opened the helicopter model, made a new model using planes/cylindar/etc NEXT to it as to try to make it the same shape
00:08 PandemoniuM removed the helicopter from the file and saved that as the heli.x model used in the mod
00:09 sapier if you made it you can incrase it's size too
00:17 PandemoniuM yep you nailed it
00:17 PandemoniuM thats crazy. i made it the same size as the helicopter model
00:17 PandemoniuM but it looks normal in its mod
00:17 PandemoniuM but this works, thanks mate
00:18 danquebec_ ShadowNinja: Yay Minetest works. Thank you a lot, you’re great!
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00:24 PandemoniuM wanted to make a gun that a player can control
00:24 PandemoniuM so i took the helicopter functionality and made it stationary so the user can get in this turret and they move around in it
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01:12 stormchaser3000 hmmm
01:12 stormchaser3000 hi
01:13 EvergreenTree hello
01:13 VanessaE hi
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02:11 jojoa1997 i dont remember but isn't there a minetest site to upload stuff. i think sfan5 made it
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04:14 kaeza hi
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04:19 * arsdragonfly never knew IRC has multibyte support before
04:20 kaeza :|
04:21 arsdragonfly sfan5 your irc stats don't show the latest topic
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06:17 sfan5 arsdragonfly: updating right now
06:18 sfan5 also... IRC doesn't have multibyte support
06:18 sfan5 the clients have it
06:18 sfan5 IIRC
06:24 reactor Watch the ball: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT22uXUI-vg
06:29 sfan5 !title
06:29 MinetestBot sfan5: Заставка телекомпании ВИD (1990-1999) - YouTube
06:29 sfan5 MinetestBot!
06:29 MinetestBot sfan5!
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07:34 tonyism Oh wow.
07:34 VanessaE ?
07:34 reactor VanessaE: how's the science?
07:34 tonyism I expected to find this room dead. I didn't know minetest had a following, just found it.
07:35 VanessaE tonyism: very much so, though at this time of night it's usually pretty quiet
07:35 VanessaE it'll pick back up again in some hours
07:35 VanessaE reactor: eh?
07:35 tonyism Any of the devs hang out here?
07:37 reactor #minetest-dev
07:37 VanessaE some do
07:37 VanessaE most are there ^^^ but you can't use the web chat to get there
07:37 VanessaE (the webchat is muted on that channel)
07:37 reactor Yeah really man.
07:37 reactor Webchat is evil.
07:38 reactor VanessaE: I would really like to see MT getting its own mailing list; what can be done about that?
07:38 VanessaE reactor: there has been talk, but I believe the consensus was rather not to.
07:38 VanessaE we all preferred IRC + the logs
07:39 reactor the logs
07:39 reactor ?
07:39 VanessaE http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev
07:39 reactor OH.
07:39 reactor Good.
07:39 VanessaE this channel is also logged.
07:40 VanessaE same site, minus "-dev"
07:40 reactor Well, IRC logs are probably a good alternative.
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08:04 ungali minetest is utterly amazing. Like heck ya. Nevar stop, developers
08:04 ungali cats
08:05 reactor cat(1)
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08:14 VanessaE well I don't fall under the category of "developer" in this context, but I don't plan to stop any time soon at least.
08:14 VanessaE :)
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09:35 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Miners' Day! :)
09:35 JamesTait Particularly apt in this channel, I feel. ;)
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12:40 sfan5 hi everyone
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13:11 Gethiox hi oneevery
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13:27 VanessaE hi
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14:13 sfan5 john_minetest: whats red and bad for your teeth?
14:14 sfan5 no, a brick
14:14 sfan5 whats grey and can't fly?
14:15 sfan5 a parking lot
14:15 sfan5 a green fox?
14:15 sfan5 haha
14:17 sfan5 whats brown and swims in water?
14:17 sfan5 an u-bread (this is funnier in german)
14:18 sfan5 <german> was ist grün und klopft an der tür? </german>
14:18 sfan5 <german> klopfsalat </german>
14:18 sfan5 :D
14:19 sfan5 <german> was liegt am strand und man versteht es nicht? </german>
14:19 sfan5 <german> Eine Nuschel! </german>
14:20 sfan5 :D
14:20 sfan5 <german> was ist orange und geht um den berg? </german>
14:21 sfan5 <german> nein, es ist eine wandarine </german>
14:22 sfan5 dunno
14:22 sfan5 who's there?
14:22 sfan5 :D
14:22 sfan5 s/:./\1:/
14:23 * john_minetest now activates the EVIL to get graphics.
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14:35 OldCoder john_minetest, Hi
14:37 OldCoder john_minetest, switch to Nouveau
14:37 OldCoder I used proprietary for a year or two
14:37 OldCoder Nightmare
14:37 OldCoder Then switch distros
14:37 OldCoder Drop proprietary it is a dead end
14:37 OldCoder Of course it is
14:37 OldCoder I use Nouveau myself
14:37 OldCoder Hm? How what?
14:38 OldCoder Different distro and/or kernel rev may help
14:38 OldCoder I have very good luck
14:38 OldCoder Hmm
14:38 OldCoder Not sure good idea but could try
14:38 OldCoder May break other things
14:38 OldCoder john_minetest, I tried to use proprietary
14:38 OldCoder k
14:39 OldCoder I ended up with 5 50MB or 100MB sets of installers
14:39 OldCoder Because they dropped support for old cards and basically did not work
14:39 OldCoder If worst comes to worst get a different machine; being locked in is no fun
14:41 OldCoder
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14:43 iqualfragile john_minetest: which graka do you use?
14:44 iqualfragile yeah, good luck with that
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15:02 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
15:08 MinetestBot GIT: ffrogger _zero_ at yahoo dot com commited to minetest/minetest: Improve (re)spawn, add cache_block_before_spawn and max_spawn_height settings 22dbbf0a6f 2013-12-05T13:09:02-08:00 http://git.io/
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15:18 harrison a shetland pony walks into a bar
15:18 harrison the bartender says
15:18 harrison "there must be a cold going around this week....
15:18 harrison i am a little hoarse too!"
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15:28 stormchaser3000 hi
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15:33 stormchaser3000 hi
15:41 Leoneof hi
15:41 Leoneof "ERROR[main]: Some exception: "Type is not convertible to string"
15:41 Leoneof minetest: src/lib_json/json_value.cpp:492: Json::Value::~Value(): Assertion `false' failed."
15:41 Leoneof fix it, now!
15:41 PilzAdam ^ proller
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15:47 proller cat  src/lib_json/json_value.cpp
15:47 proller cat: src/lib_json/json_value.cpp: No such file or directory
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16:02 * Jordach wants a button to ignore people's game requests...
16:03 * john_minetest hands Jordach this button: [Ignore people's game request]
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16:07 specing proller: haha
16:07 * specing sees proller nail Leoneof to the wall
16:08 Leoneof :D
16:11 Leoneof proller: this minetest 0.4.6, debian sid
16:11 proller wat??
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16:12 proller q
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16:12 virtualfall like my site? http://virtualfallsoftware.x10.mx/
16:12 Leoneof proller: i'm using minetest 0.4.6, debian sid
16:13 proller Leoneof, do not use old outdated soft
16:13 proller current is 0.4.8
16:13 Leoneof proller: i blame debian, will compile it
16:14 specing Oh come on guys, CLIP PUBLIC SERVER has 8 of 12 people and it still says full
16:14 proller debian use jsoncpp from system
16:14 specing Leoneof: LOL .4.6?!
16:14 proller specing, player number updating every 5 minutes
16:14 specing -.-'
16:14 specing proller: It was 10 before
16:15 specing last time I checked
16:15 specing ~10 mins ago
16:15 specing something is playing tricks with me
16:15 Leoneof what's the best distro that has ALL ready packages?
16:15 proller Leoneof, freebsd
16:16 Leoneof notice, debian have ~50,000 packages
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16:17 proller -data -dbg -src -blabal = 4 packages ?
16:17 proller v0.1 v0.2 = x2 packages?
16:17 Exio4 Leoneof: apt-get update
16:18 proller freebsd have 24529 ports
16:18 Leoneof i do update everyday
16:18 Leoneof proller: debian win :\
16:18 specing v7 mapgen is nice
16:18 Exio4 Windows Multilingual User Interface Pack
16:19 Exio4 wee
16:19 specing spawned me in a cave opening with walls higher than 2 blocks
16:19 Exio4 lol
16:19 specing can't get out
16:19 proller Leoneof, count unique software names pleas
16:19 Exio4 http://packages.debian.org/sid/minetest
16:19 specing and theres like nothing other than cobblestone and some ores wherever I jump-look
16:19 Exio4 than stone
16:19 Exio4 not cobble
16:19 Leoneof proller: brb, eating :]
16:19 Exio4 also, you should defime biomes for using it
16:19 Exio4 or you shouldn{t use it, better :>
16:19 proller minetest in debian = 4 or more packages, in freebsd = one
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16:20 proller ~50,000/4 < 24529
16:20 proller freebsd win.
16:20 Leoneof oh i understand now
16:20 virtualfall minetest foir Reats OS?
16:20 virtualfall React OS
16:20 virtualfall For
16:20 Exio4 you should try windows builds
16:22 Exio4 i don't know how freebsd would handle a wifi dongle that, under linux, i need to run with hacks
16:22 virtualfall minetest for Game Consoles is possible?
16:23 Exio4 virtualfall: italian? :P
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16:23 EBMthecrafter hi
16:24 specing 4.8-dev loads slower than 4.8
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16:25 virtualfall yes
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16:26 kaeza afternoons
16:26 virtualfall im are the founder of Virtual Fall Software: http://virtualfallsoftware.x10.mx/
16:26 virtualfall my friend is the creator of: http://rustedlogic.net/
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16:31 virtualfall goodbay! ;)
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16:32 TheBestMT !up LinuxGaming.us
16:32 MinetestBot LinuxGaming.us:30000 is up (282ms)
16:32 TheBestMT Hi Giys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
16:33 ShadowNinja Hello TheBestMT!
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16:33 TheBestMT ShadownNinja, what server do you play on?
16:33 ShadowNinja TheBestMT: Mine and Vanessa's mostly.
16:34 TheBestMT You have a server?
16:34 ShadowNinja TheBestMT: Yes, it's on the serverlist.
16:35 TheBestMT What build do you use of MT?
16:36 ShadowNinja TheBestMT: I compile it myself off git master.
16:36 TheBestMT Yeah me too...
16:38 TheBestMT I used to use Minetest++ by stfan5!
16:39 TheBestMT I play on LinuxGaming.us, or Craig;s Survival Server!
16:40 TheBestMT PilzAdam?
16:40 TheBestMT Pilzadam?
16:40 TheBestMT Pilzadam?
16:41 TheBestMT Pilzadam, are you there?
16:41 PilzAdam suuuuuuuuuuuuup?
16:41 TheBestMT Hi man
16:41 TheBestMT are you there
16:42 TheBestMT Are you the PilzAdam that made the famous build>
16:42 specing Hmm
16:42 specing Why is the git minetest not using ~/.minetest?
16:43 specing is it because of -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 ?
16:43 PilzAdam specing, yes
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16:43 specing I thought that was for running binaries outside of /usr/, hmmm
16:43 PilzAdam DRUN_IN_PLACE=0 and sudo make install  after make will help you
16:44 specing I'd still like to only have it in ./bin
16:44 George_ does anyone have a traffic light mod
16:44 George_ which i can download
16:44 George_ and works
16:44 specing PilzAdam: is -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0  ./bin/minetest going to work?
16:44 PilzAdam dunno
16:44 PilzAdam test it ;-)
16:44 specing ok
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16:47 Leoneof how to run minetest with one core of cpu? if possible
16:49 specing lel
16:49 specing htop -> select minetest -> press a
16:50 Leoneof good idea
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16:50 MinetestBot IOError: [Errno socket error] [Errno 110] Connection timed out (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/socket.py", line 571, in create_connection)
16:51 specing too many users
16:51 ShadowNinja specing: Probably not. It should make a systemwide install. There may be a way to get it to use ~/.minetest, but I don't know of it.
16:51 specing AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
16:51 ShadowNinja sfan5: ^
16:51 kaeza George_,  this one? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2984
16:51 sfan5 wat
16:51 George_ let me have a loock please
16:51 sfan5 wat
16:51 George_ 1 min
16:51 sfan5 just what
16:51 specing ShadowNinja: ./bin/minetest works
16:51 sfan5 MinetestBot: wat are your doin
16:52 MinetestBot IOError: [Errno socket error] [Errno 110] Connection timed out (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/socket.py", line 571, in create_connection)
16:52 kaeza lol
16:52 ShadowNinja specing: Oh, good. :-)
16:52 sfan5 it can't connect to github
16:53 ShadowNinja In my setup GitHub connects to ME. :-)
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16:53 sfan5 yes, I know that that works too
16:53 kaeza in soviet russia, gihub connect you!
16:53 kaeza +t
16:53 VanessaE in soviet russia, github clones you?
16:53 ShadowNinja Unfourtunately GitHub webhooks are admin/owner only. :-(
16:54 George_ i have it but i don't get how to use the traffic lights
16:54 Jordach hey VanessaE
16:54 * VanessaE hides
16:54 ShadowNinja I'm not sure why that is.
16:54 specing ShadowNinja: it uses ~/.minetest
16:54 ShadowNinja specing: Good.
16:54 Jordach VanessaE, browsing imgur, find a streaker on american ninja
16:55 Jordach and laughed my fucking tits off
16:55 specing Erm huys
16:55 specing -dev is ultra bugged
16:55 specing glass is not transparent
16:55 specing or is that due to .4.8 textures in ~/.minetest?
16:56 ShadowNinja specing: Maybe shaders are messed up. Disable them.
16:56 VanessaE specing: update your copy of minetest
16:56 VanessaE that bug was already fixed.
16:56 sfan5 wow.. only 70 minetest_game textures are without alpha channel
16:56 ShadowNinja VanessaE: That never went into master, right?
16:56 George_ i don't get this mod https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4822 because it asks you to download loads of other mods could someone please spare some time to make a mod pack with all the stuff i need
16:57 George_ sorry
16:57 specing VanessaE: I just pulled it 30 minutest ago...
16:57 VanessaE ShadowNinja:  current master has working shaders
16:57 specing VanessaE: from github
16:57 specing VanessaE: and minetest_game
16:57 VanessaE well it had when I pulled a day or so ago
16:57 George_ ok
16:57 specing VanessaE: maybe it got unfixed?
16:57 VanessaE the thing where RBA broke all transparent-bearing objects got fixed.
16:57 George_ do you understand it
16:57 * VanessaE pulls and checks.
16:57 ShadowNinja VanessaE: Yes, but shaders weren't merged until the transparency bug was fixed, right?
16:58 George_ ?
16:58 George_ confused
16:58 George_ its just i dont get how to use it because it talks abaut 5 other mods i think
16:59 ShadowNinja George_: It doesn't depend on all that much. Just two mods.
16:59 George_ ok
16:59 George_ sorry i
16:59 George_ get confused
16:59 George_ easaly
16:59 George_ spelt rong
16:59 VanessaE Just download moreblocks, mesecons, and install them.
16:59 George_ ok
17:00 George_ one min
17:00 VanessaE the thing he mentions about wool being colorable, is already possible in minetest_game by default.
17:00 George_ ok
17:01 VanessaE ShadowNinja: current HEAD works fine for me.
17:01 Jordach VanessaE, i might have an iron addiction problem :(
17:01 Jordach i have 5 full stacks of em
17:01 George_ i have done it
17:01 George_ but i can't see the stuff in my invetry
17:01 George_ ?
17:01 Leoneof cmake is awesome
17:01 VanessaE George_: now make sure the folder names are correct, make sure you put them in the right place, and enable them in your world's config screen
17:02 George_ i have
17:02 George_ i have?
17:02 George_ ?
17:02 George_
17:02 VanessaE ('moreblocks' and 'minetest-mod-mesecons' are the usual names for those two, the latter one is anything you want it to be, as it's actually a modpack)
17:02 VanessaE I don't know -- have you?
17:03 George_ i named them that
17:03 George_ do you want me to send debug
17:03 VanessaE no
17:03 VanessaE just enable them in your world's configure screen now
17:03 George_ i have
17:03 George_ ?
17:04 kaeza nice... HybridDog keeps deleting his posts ._.
17:04 George_
17:04 VanessaE ShadowNinja: and yeah, I seem to remember that the transparency glitch was fixed prior to the shaders being merged upstream, but as specing suggests, maybe for some folks it got un-fixed.
17:04 VanessaE ShadowNinja: Sokomine can't use the shaders either, nor can cheapie
17:05 VanessaE (for sokomine, everything turns black except the sky, for cheapie there's black "tv static" on most solid surfaces)
17:05 Leoneof how did you collect all those 90 users in few years? :)
17:05 George_
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17:07 ShadowNinja Leoneof: Sometimes there are >100. But this channel only represents a portion of the Minetest community.
17:08 VanessaE the insane portion ;)
17:08 kaeza ^
17:08 ShadowNinja >:-)
17:09 Jordach nope.avi
17:09 George_
17:09 George_
17:09 George_
17:09 George_
17:09 George_ was kicked by ShadowBot: Message repetition flood detected.
17:10 Jordach wat
17:10 Jordach wat wat wat
17:10 kaeza wat
17:10 VanessaE wat wat
17:10 Jordach wat
17:11 Jordach george_ wasn't even talking
17:11 ShadowNinja :-D
17:11 * Jordach doesn't understand
17:12 Jordach ...Mysteries of #minetest ?
17:12 ShadowNinja Jordach: He was, he send empty messages, maybe your client didn't show them.
17:12 VanessaE it was censored
17:12 Jordach ShadowNinja, ah
17:12 Jordach Quassel being #1 again i see
17:12 VanessaE [12-06 12:09] <George_> [redacted]
17:12 VanessaE see?
17:12 Jordach weird
17:12 ShadowNinja http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6530672/
17:12 Jordach hold on
17:12 Jordach [redacted]
17:12 Jordach shows for me
17:13 ShadowNinja Jordach: Huh, I'm using quassel. Maybe you have a setting set for that.
17:13 Jordach oh wait, he's doing the oldcoder
17:13 Jordach where he makes new lines for no reason
17:13 VanessaE Jordach: actually he has a reason for that
17:13 kaeza oh, http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-12-06#i_3473839
17:13 Jordach hm?
17:13 VanessaE he does it as a divider.
17:13 ShadowNinja "The OldCoder" :-D He uses them for paragraphs.
17:13 Jordach oh
17:13 VanessaE like writing //-------------- in your sources
17:14 Jordach right
17:15 Jordach VanessaE, i really need to stop mining
17:15 Jordach it's soo addictive :D
17:15 * Jordach could build a legit steel suspension bridge
17:16 VanessaE Jordach: all the more reason to keep mining
17:16 VanessaE but find something useful to do with all those ores
17:16 Jordach crap, now onto the next fucking stack of steel blocks
17:16 VanessaE we need something kick-ass to make with steel blocks now
17:17 Jordach VanessaE, make more mining drills, grief the fucking caves so nobody can start again
17:17 VanessaE what if they can be transmuted into something else?
17:17 Jordach at the rate i'm going i'm most likely the economic super power
17:17 VanessaE think about it a sec
17:17 VanessaE I don't mean like philosopher's stone type of stuff
17:17 VanessaE more like raw feedstock for a replicator mod
17:18 VanessaE in goes steel blocks (being basically the most stable form of matter according to current science), add HV technic power, out comes...whatever you want?
17:18 VanessaE but at a high cost
17:19 Jordach VanessaE, http://tekkitclassic.wikia.com/wiki/Energy_Condenser
17:19 VanessaE a mese block might take a dozen or more steel blocks, etc.
17:19 Jordach you mean that in a nutshell
17:19 VanessaE naw
17:19 VanessaE nothing like that
17:20 VanessaE I mean more like a Star Trek Replicator, with technic HV as its power source.
17:20 Jordach VanessaE, stick items in, get chosen items out minus the need for HV
17:20 Jordach (each item has a EMC rating, 1 being the lowest to reproduce, while some are in the millions)
17:20 VanessaE hm
17:20 VanessaE well then maybe yeah
17:20 VanessaE but
17:20 Jordach VanessaE, you know why i'm so fucking rich? i've played Tekkit Classic
17:21 VanessaE given the nature of a minetest world and the sheer abundance of things like iron,
17:21 VanessaE we need a more expensive conversion
17:21 VanessaE (hence the technic suggestion)
17:22 VanessaE but like Star Trek, there needs to be one material it can't reproduce.  something valuable.
17:22 VanessaE but what?
17:22 VanessaE we don't exactly have Gold-pressed Latinum
17:23 Jordach VanessaE, here's my endgame of Tekkit: http://imgur.com/a/AMUeB
17:23 Jordach a self fueling nuclear reactor
17:23 Jordach all by the power of EMC
17:23 VanessaE looks like a typical pipeworks installation :)
17:24 Jordach VanessaE, i'm using alchemy (or your suggested method) to create everything
17:24 Jordach it even builds it's own fuek
17:24 Jordach fuel*
17:24 VanessaE that timer-rotor object from redstone (third screenshot)...why don't we have that thing in mesecons yet?
17:24 pitriss Hi, please i want to ask about pipeworks.. Whats difference between normal tubes crossing and crossing tubes ?
17:24 Jordach VanessaE, clocking on i see? ;)
17:25 VanessaE pitriss: eh?
17:25 VanessaE normal tubes crossing and crossing tubes?
17:25 * VanessaE checks the inventoryu
17:25 Jordach VanessaE, we should have a fourth tier of power: EXTREME VOLTAGE (touching the cable = death!)
17:25 pitriss VanessaE: I see something called "crossing tube segment"
17:25 VanessaE OH
17:26 VanessaE right
17:26 VanessaE I think the crossing is like a mesecons crossing - objects won't ever turn a corner there
17:26 pitriss it is greenish but I don't understand its purpose.:)
17:26 VanessaE whereas in a normal crossed tubes junction, they can
17:26 Jordach they're like insulated mesecons (?)
17:27 pitriss ahh so if this crossing is used then object go straight every pass through
17:27 VanessaE like an insulated mesecons crossing yeah
17:27 VanessaE Jordach: I think I could agree with that - but what would you power with EV?
17:27 Jordach VanessaE, nuclear reactors could power the thing you were talking about
17:27 VanessaE Jordach: yes.  that's HV.
17:28 VanessaE EV would require a matter-antimatter reaction
17:28 Jordach EV would be things that require the reactor on it's own to power
17:28 VanessaE Warp Drive anyone? :)
17:28 Jordach such as larger forcefields, stargates
17:28 VanessaE so now we need a way to generate antimatter (at a rate sufficient to fuel a M-AM reactor continuously)
17:29 Jordach well, to make anti-matter in tekkit, you need a shit ton of diamonds
17:29 VanessaE tekkit has antimatter?
17:29 VanessaE well shit.
17:29 Jordach yes
17:30 VanessaE then we need something new
17:30 Jordach mese-matter
17:30 VanessaE quantum energy?
17:30 Jordach same job, different name
17:30 Jordach nobody knows *what* mese actually is
17:30 iqualfragile is there some way to use both, ipv4 and 6 in minetest at the same time?
17:30 Jordach VanessaE, enriched Mese-Matter is an even higher tier than Mese-Matter
17:31 sfan5 Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/pG2xuzC.png
17:31 VanessaE celeron says it's an alien artifact with a plastic-like consistency.  I say it's that with a crystalline structure like quartz.  conductive, with a natural power.
17:31 Jordach sfan5, wat
17:32 sfan5 does that look better or not?
17:32 Jordach no idea
17:32 Jordach drop that on evergreen's topic
17:32 sfan5 I ran it through an xBRZ filter ( https://gist.github.com/sfan5/7827430#file-xbrzscale-py )
17:32 sfan5 link plz
17:32 Jordach sfan5, you're a fucking moderator, do it
17:33 VanessaE wait, wht?
17:33 Jordach VanessaE, Mese is kind of a super structure
17:33 Jordach tough, resiliant to damage
17:33 Jordach affects other particles
17:34 VanessaE *nod*
17:34 Jordach under enough compression the crystals merge and become harder than diamonds
17:34 VanessaE and they demonstrate an incredibly powerful peizoelectric effect
17:34 Jordach (and with the right enrichment, more radioactive *and* can create and destroy matter)
17:35 Jordach a mese based nuclear reactor to generate the energy for the replicator
17:35 Jordach under EMV (Enriched Mese Voltage - some sort of magic energy)
17:36 VanessaE let's avoid anything that suggests magic though
17:36 Jordach VanessaE, it powers both mesecons circuits and technic wires
17:36 VanessaE this should play entirely on mese's naturally-occurring quantum/nuclear properties
17:36 Jordach (and unlike normal reactors, it doesn't go boom)
17:37 sfan5 Jordach: which topic by evergreen exactly?
17:37 MinetestBot GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Fix small mistake in Lua API docs e15681080e 2013-12-06T09:37:32-08:00 http://git.io/If4ugw
17:39 Jordach sfan5, texture packs
17:39 Jordach look under the topic
17:39 Jordach minetest-faithful
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17:39 sfan5 ah, ok
17:39 Jordach ctrl + f : faithful
17:39 Jordach brb - food
17:45 kaeza https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7935
17:46 kaeza he is spanish and Minetest/gettext/whatever is choosing chinese as language?
17:47 kaeza now that's fucked up...
17:47 kaeza also >0.4.7
17:48 specing Can you somehow climb ladders faster?
17:48 kaeza space+E
17:48 kaeza (if you have fast priv)
17:54 Leoneof 20:53:51: ERROR[main]: generateImage(): Could not load image "invisible.png" while building texture
17:54 Leoneof fix it, now!
17:55 proller 0.4.8  ?
17:56 Leoneof git version
17:56 Leoneof and
17:56 Leoneof 20:53:51: ERROR[main]: generateImage(): Creating a dummy image for "invisible.png"
17:56 kaeza Leoneof, invisible.png is not in default
17:57 kaeza a quick search on mmy system gives a texture in both moreblocks and MOBF
17:57 kaeza -m
17:57 Leoneof i don't know how, but that's what i get
17:58 kaeza which os?
17:58 Leoneof maybe this error is related to Clip server
17:58 Leoneof linux
17:58 kaeza try `find . -name 'invisible.png'`
17:59 kaeza ah
17:59 kaeza then maybe the server doesn't have that texture
18:00 Leoneof :[
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18:03 Jordach <Spotify - Linux Preview> Error while loading skin.
18:03 Jordach ^ wat
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18:07 kaeza Leoneof, you may want to report that on to the server admin and tell him/her to check if the texture is available
18:08 kaeza -on
18:14 sfan5 !op
18:14 Topic for #minetest is now 0.4.8 is released! | Website: http://minetest.net | Rules: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | Core Devs: #minetest-dev | Servers: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | IRC stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html | NekoGloopは猫です。Evergreenは木です。
18:14 sfan5 !deop
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18:16 ShadowNinja sfan5: What did you change?
18:16 Jordach sfan5, wat
18:16 Jordach NekoGloopは猫です。Evergreenは木です。"
18:17 sfan5 ShadowBot: s/EvergreenTree/Evergreen/
18:18 ShadowNinja Ah.
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18:18 PilzAdam I thought this was an english channel...
18:18 Jordach !op
18:18 Topic for #minetest is now 0.4.8 is released! | Website: http://minetest.net | Rules: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | Core Devs: #minetest-dev | Servers: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | IRC stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html | NekoGloopは猫です。EvergreenTreeは木です。
18:18 Jordach !deop
18:18 Jordach fixed :p
18:19 kaeza より多くのデスが必要です
18:19 Leoneof !op
18:19 sfan5 wat
18:19 sfan5 !op
18:19 Topic for #minetest is now 0.4.8 is released! | Website: http://minetest.net | Rules: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | Core Devs: #minetest-dev | Servers: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | IRC stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html | NekoGloopは猫です。Evergreenは木です。
18:19 sfan5 !deop
18:19 kaeza stupid google translate O_o
18:19 Jordach [18:17:56] <sfan5> ShadowBot: s/EvergreenTree/Evergreen/
18:19 Jordach does not compute
18:20 kaeza "needs more desu" → "より多くのデスが必要です" → "Death requires more"
18:20 kaeza o wait
18:20 * Jordach is now at -3.2km down :D
18:20 * Jordach wants to see this: http://wiki.minetest.net/Calinous_Law
18:22 ShadowNinja Jordach: That won't happen unless kwoekr's ore scarcity ramp patch is added.
18:22 ShadowNinja +l
18:22 Jordach aw
18:22 * kaeza needs coffee
18:22 Jordach ShadowNinja, stop runing people's fubn
18:22 Jordach fun*
18:23 ShadowNinja (Or you do it on purpose.
18:23 ShadowNinja )
18:23 PilzAdam "PilzAdam's Law: PilzAdam's law states that the more non-voxel nodes you have in your game, the more boring it gets. This law is known to be the ultimate truth"
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18:23 kaeza um no
18:23 * ShadowNinja makes a voxel-free game. :-D
18:24 Jordach <PilzAdam> ShadowNinja, then why play minetest?
18:24 * ShadowNinja makes Jordach play his game.
18:24 sfan5 kaeza: that would be ”です”もっといる
18:24 Jordach how about no, you freaky deaky dutch bastarfd
18:24 Jordach -f
18:24 ShadowNinja Gah, docky keeps dieing now.
18:25 khonkhortisan dieing is not a word
18:25 kaeza sfan5, ah :P
18:25 Jordach my aim for a distro is: it looks good (in black) and is pretty damn simple to work with
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18:26 PilzAdam why is this article in the user wiki? http://wiki.minetest.net/Groups
18:26 ShadowNinja john_minetest: A theoretical voxel-node-free game.
18:26 PilzAdam and why does it mix engine defined groups with minetest_game defined groups?
18:27 ShadowNinja Wuzzy2: ^
18:30 Wuzzy2 It’s in the wiki because … why not? ;-)
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18:33 PilzAdam because its useless information for users
18:33 PilzAdam its only useful for modders
18:33 PilzAdam also its incomplete/wrong
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18:42 TheBestMT GI
18:42 TheBestMT HI
18:42 TheBestMT HI
18:42 TheBestMT HI
18:42 TheBestMT was kicked by ShadowBot: Message repetition flood detected.
18:46 Jordach yay
18:46 Jordach new /home/jordach/Desktop icons get
18:46 specing what is the fastest pickaxe to mine obsidian with?
18:47 specing I dont have mese
18:47 specing steel is slow and wears out fast
18:47 kaeza diamond or mese
18:47 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/6HvfdTD.png
18:48 * Jordach will replace the launcher icons at some point
18:48 kaeza niiice
18:48 Jordach 16px icons ftw
18:48 Jordach greybird + grey icons
18:48 Jordach i had to hack around the trash can
18:48 kaeza the desktop icons are a bit dull though
18:48 Jordach kaeza, that's the point
18:48 Jordach gnome icons don't fit :D
18:49 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/Screenshot%20from%202013-11-16%2023%3A24%3A30.jpg
18:49 Jordach (blue + grey != nice feels)
18:49 * Jordach hears this: <VanessaE> blerp ba-da-blerp ba-da-blerp ba-da-blearp
18:49 Jordach my phone just got a message :(
18:49 ShadowNinja john_minetest: One came here a while ago, but I haven't heard of any recently.
18:50 Jordach Calinou, yes, i use your damn wallpapers
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18:52 Jordach yay, turning my machine into the 8bit dream machine
18:52 Jordach (my folders on the desktop are actually .files)
18:53 kaeza .files?
18:54 Jordach eg, hidden folders
18:54 kaeza ah
18:55 Leoneof good to see xfce everywhere
18:55 Jordach i've just used launchers (hint, command thunar /home/jordach/Desktop/.minetest/ is legal
18:58 Jordach oh there we go
18:58 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/I2UgwIQ.png
18:58 Jordach kaeza, ^
18:58 sfan5 kaeza: what is your desktop bg from?
18:58 Jordach uhm
18:58 kaeza sfan5, Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt
18:58 ShadowNinja john_minetest: Wait, Gambit's an op, and he's been arround recently, I think.
18:59 * Jordach might have infinite spotify time...
18:59 sfan5 ah
18:59 * sfan5 haz spotify unlimited
18:59 Jordach i might not have just hexeditored the program memory from root
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18:59 Calinou * sfan5 haz spotify unlimited
18:59 Calinou lol, you have to be proud of it
19:00 sfan5 :D
19:00 Calinou due to how few users pay :P
19:00 Jordach there's a byte designated for subscription service
19:00 fixed hi minetesters... how to tell what mods are active. i installed a mobs-mod but still i see no monsters :,(
19:00 Jordach fixed, they need time to spawn
19:01 fixed more than one "day" in-game?
19:02 fixed one night that is
19:03 sfan5 type /mods
19:03 fixed invalid command
19:03 fixed i guess i did'nt get it installed right then
19:03 sfan5 no
19:04 sfan5 /mods shouldn't be an invalid command..
19:04 sfan5 which minetest version do you have?
19:04 fixed ah sorry wait
19:04 fixed i get some mods.. but not the mobs one
19:05 fixed i get bones bucket creative stairs fire default...
19:05 * Jordach has balls http://i.imgur.com/Olp379a.png
19:05 sfan5 Jordach: http://youtu.be/e0pqb_eVo5k
19:05 Jordach look at that volume level
19:05 Jordach not even distorting :D
19:06 sfan5 fixed: enable the mobs mod in the "Configure" menu of your worls
19:06 sfan5 world*
19:06 Jordach sfan5, i already have shaders enabled
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19:07 Jordach sfan5, http://i.imgur.com/iNajaYk.png
19:07 sfan5 the shaders are awesome
19:07 sfan5 wat
19:07 sfan5 the
19:08 sfan5 I can't write the
19:08 fixed Jordach: hmm... nothing appears in the configure menu. it says "Mods: N/A"
19:08 sfan5 I mean t e h
19:08 sfan5 fixed: how did you install the mod?
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19:08 kaeza IRC client stop correcting my words, you useless piece of shut
19:09 * Jordach doesn't have that issue
19:09 Jordach got an issue? 'ave a tissue
19:09 Jordach NO. NOOOOO. NOOOOOOOOOOOO.
19:10 fixed downloaded  PilzAdam-mobs-c49cc47.zip and the  MiniTest-master.zip mods. created the ~/.minetest folder. unzipped the content of miiTest-master into ~/.minetest
19:10 sfan5 oh
19:10 fixed then i unzipped pilzAdam-mobs-c... into the ~/.minetest/mods
19:11 kaeza minitest goes in minetest/games
19:11 sfan5 ^
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19:11 kaeza wat
19:11 sfan5 kaeza: what was my part message?
19:11 fixed in home directory?
19:11 kaeza [17:11:24] <-- sfan5 (~sfan5@2a01:4f8:151:8106::2) has left #minetest ("私は猫です")
19:11 sfan5 ok, good
19:11 sfan5 fixed: ~/.minetest/mods
19:12 * Jordach doesn't mind Japanese culture, but if it goes too far...
19:12 sfan5 you don't even know what it says
19:13 us}0gb My font doesn't even support those characters. Even if I knew Japanese, I wouldn't know what it says.
19:13 sfan5 japanese is simple
19:13 Jordach sfan5, my brother is as bad as you are
19:14 sfan5 (well.. in romanji, not kanji)
19:14 sfan5 Jordach: bad in what?
19:14 Jordach watching too much anime
19:14 sfan5 you can't watch too much anime!
19:14 kaeza ^
19:14 Jordach uhm
19:15 Jordach how will one goto school or get a job?
19:15 kaeza in a Gundam Suit!
19:15 sfan5 hahaha
19:16 Jordach meh. who needs google glass when i have 45% opacity green perspex glass
19:16 Jordach (+ a microprojector and android)
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19:19 Jordach btw, i've worked out decent falling and hurt sounds for mt_game
19:20 Jordach a crunch (similar to breaking a twig loudly) for fall damage, and some sort of meat cutting sound (perhaps with a clunk somewhere?)
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19:34 fixed strange stuff... the mobs mod works if i put it in worldmods/mods
19:34 fixed but i cant make it work any other way
19:35 PilzAdam have you enabled the mod in the GUI for your world after puttin it in $path_user/mods/ ?
19:37 fixed hi PilzAdam :) thanks for making mods!!!
19:37 fixed i love it!
19:38 fixed i may be a little noob... when you say $path_user/mods/ are you then refering to ~/.minetest/mods?
19:38 PilzAdam if you have a system-wide installation then yes
19:38 fixed i run debian on my laptop :)
19:38 fixed only
19:39 fixed well... the thing is... after putting "mobs" into  ~/.minetest/mods i dont get an option to enable it in the gui
19:39 fixed for some reason unknown
19:43 Jordach fixed, what version (look in the top left)
19:44 * Jordach thinks it's happy wheels time
19:44 sfan5 Jordach: wanna openspades?
19:44 Jordach nah
19:44 Jordach happy wheels ftw
19:44 sfan5 :(
19:44 fixed 0.4.6
19:45 fixed i have sheeps now :). still not been killed by some evil monster :)
19:45 sfan5 Jordach: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=120985#p120985
19:45 sfan5 fixed: update to 0.4.8
19:47 fixed sfan5: hmm... then i think i have to add sid repo to my sources... i think the debian jessie repo only have 4.6
19:48 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=120923#p120923
19:48 Calinou RIP means nothing and means you don't care much
19:48 Calinou also
19:48 * Calinou writes "WE KNOW" with wooden planks
19:50 fixed sfan5: i think i'm ok for now on 0.4.6. it seems that monsters are spawning... just not near me yet... :). but i will read about the 0.4.8 version now
19:50 PilzAdam <Calinou> RIP means nothing and means you don't care much <- what the fuck
19:50 sfan5 0.4.8 is really much better
19:50 PilzAdam Calinou, do you even read what you say?
19:50 Calinou if you cared, you would have written something more useful
19:50 Calinou yes I do
19:51 PilzAdam "it means nothing and it means something"
19:51 PilzAdam true logic
19:51 PilzAdam *slowclap*
19:55 Jordach ooh
19:55 Jordach anyone up for xonotic or red eclipse?
19:56 PilzAdam Jordach, good that you dont even consider playing Minetest :-p
19:56 Jordach PilzAdam, i played for a few hours earlier
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20:03 sfan5 Jordach: yes, /me wants xonotic
20:08 proller http://freeminer.org/ - version 0.4.8.2 released!
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20:18 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/Ctx77yg.png
20:18 thexyz sfan5: ^
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20:25 sfan5 thexyz: nice
20:25 sfan5 proller: this is #minetest not #freeminer
20:25 sfan5 thexyz: what was the problem?
20:26 khonkhortisan I'll play xonotic
20:26 * sfan5 is already done playing xonotic
20:27 thexyz sfan5: oh sorry i accidentally freeminer pic, won't do this anymore here
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20:28 PilzAdam proller, freeminer seems more laggy than Minetest
20:28 PilzAdam I get dugged nodes reverted even in singleplayer
20:28 sfan5 dug*
20:29 PilzAdam wtf? this is buggy
20:31 PilzAdam oh, is this supposed to be that "flowing dirt" suff?
20:34 proller yep
20:34 PilzAdam and now its rainging in the desert
20:34 PilzAdam at 30 FPS
20:35 fixed i run minetest on a little small eee... no lag... it runs great :)
20:36 PilzAdam dirt with grass and grass keeps "flying" in the air if dirt "flows" away
20:36 Jordach freeminer is shit, minetest is better
20:36 fixed Pilz - its like a poem ;)
20:37 PilzAdam and walking off nodes feels like flying
20:37 fixed *S*
20:39 fixed im getting a beer while i make copper :)
20:39 PilzAdam and the mapgen is sloow
20:40 PilzAdam an ice lake in the middle of a desert
20:43 proller PilzAdam, fully dynamic biomes now WIP and not complete
20:43 proller fps 30 - look at view range
20:43 PilzAdam either mapgen or sending blocks to client is horribly slow
20:43 PilzAdam Im waiting for a mapblock for _over a minute_ now
20:43 proller 95% mapgen
20:43 PilzAdam the view range is at 20 nodes with 30 FPS
20:43 proller its bug
20:43 PilzAdam in Minetst I get 60 with > 200 nodes view range
20:44 proller particles is slow
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20:45 PilzAdam "90% lag free" – more like "100% lag on top of Minetests!"
20:48 Leoneof this channel never sleep :]
20:50 PilzAdam maybe you shouldnt generate sand and dirt in the floatlands if they will "flow away"?
20:52 PilzAdam and it eats > 90% of my RAM
20:52 PilzAdam (probably the VBO leak)
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21:01 proller PilzAdam, floatlands must contain all needed for surviving blocks, maybe generate sand and dirt inside floatland, but it harder
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21:01 PilzAdam john_minetest, I guess zlib does a pretty good work about that
21:04 PilzAdam exists an injective function f: #ages -> |N ?
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21:07 proller john_minetest, ****miner can generate ~80 nodes per second when you falling, but now seems need some optimizing again
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21:09 proller or right now with disabled weather
21:15 Jordach proller, fuckminer :D
21:16 proller john_minetest, please, make better
21:16 khonkhortisan it has to disappear on collision instead of falling through anything
21:17 proller checking lighting - bad way to do anything, and trees to
21:18 khonkhortisan torchrain
21:18 proller light must me dynamic and 3d
21:18 khonkhortisan flashlight rain
21:18 Calinou Jordach, shitminer
21:18 Calinou (I actually don't dislike freeminer...)
21:18 Jordach hahA
21:21 PilzAdam <proller> john_minetest, please, make better <- freeminer dev begging Minetest users to code for them :-)
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22:31 * Jordach matched a world record in minetest
22:31 Jordach my speed matched the world's fastest skydiver (doing the same thing!)
22:36 proller how much&
22:36 proller ?
22:36 Jordach i reached 0.32km/S
22:36 proller and stuck in loading block?
22:36 Jordach you will need a several KM deep tunnel
22:36 Jordach proller, i loaded the chunks, then did it again
22:36 proller or teleport +30000
22:36 Warr1024 sfan5's IRC stats are pretty neat, but I don't see any indication on there what timezone those times are in...?
22:37 sfan5 gmt+2
22:37 proller in ****miner your max speed is limited ;)
22:37 sfan5 (the one of berlin)
22:37 Warr1024 ah cool, thanks.
22:37 Warr1024 now I just have to do tz math and not get it exactly backwards :-)
22:39 Warr1024 do you observe daylight savings time in Europe?
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22:42 sapier https://github.com/sapier/adv_spawning first prototype for advanced spawning mod
22:44 fairiestoy entity spawning only. Tyyical spawn rate will be a low single digit count of  <<<< Tyyical  == Typical?
22:46 sapier yes thanks :-)
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22:54 Warr1024 also achiev
22:55 sapier correct is?
22:55 Warr1024 achieve, I think?
22:55 sapier I don't know I always write this word wrong
22:55 Warr1024 damn, it's one of those words that you know you know how to spell, but when you look at it, it doesn't look right now matter how you spell it...
22:56 Warr1024 well, there's always aspell, I guess.
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23:18 sfan5 oshit
23:19 sfan5 !g sigbus
23:19 MinetestBot sfan5: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segmentation_fault
23:19 sfan5 every app segfaults...
23:19 sfan5 s/app/application/
23:19 sfan5 wat, I can't even dmesg
23:20 sfan5 /usr/bin/clear segfaults
23:20 sfan5 wat's going on?
23:21 Jordach lol lol lol lol
23:21 Jordach sfan5, quick fix: sudo rm -fR *
23:22 sapier hmmm maybee you already did what jordach suggested ;-)
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