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00:00 |
Peacock |
i mean, thats why the linux kernel got done and i might not be alive to witness HURD 1.0 lol |
00:00 |
Peacock |
stallman/FSF write way more speeches than code, whereas the open source people get shit done |
00:01 |
Jordach |
will their tagline be: don't get separated from the HURD |
00:01 |
Jordach |
you can translate that message to: please don't fork HURD |
00:02 |
Peacock |
naw instead they try to tack-on GNU to linux even though they could have never done it (linux) themselves lol |
00:04 |
Peacock |
though when you can't get shit done yourself the next best thing is to try to take credit for it lol |
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00:24 |
Peacock |
i thinks theres already arch hurd |
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00:34 |
Peacock |
i wonder if hurd comes with a complimentary jar of stallman toe jam lol |
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00:49 |
VanessaE |
well debian just pissed me off for the last time |
00:49 |
* VanessaE |
is downloading the latest Xubuntu |
00:49 |
Peacock |
tried mint? |
00:50 |
Peacock |
btw, what did it do? lol |
00:50 |
VanessaE |
Don't really care for it |
00:50 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: two words. google earth. |
00:50 |
Peacock |
not free enough? |
00:50 |
VanessaE |
this multi-arch shit is just not gonna work out |
00:50 |
VanessaE |
*buntu variants had this figured out 5 years ago |
00:50 |
us_0gb |
WHat does Google Earth have to do with Debian? |
00:50 |
VanessaE |
us_0gb: the fact that it can't be installed? |
00:51 |
Peacock |
personally i think debian's removal of the collada plugin for blender to be ultra-retarded, so i run the blender version they offer on their own (blender) website |
00:51 |
us_0gb |
That's odd. It seems like if it installs on *buntu, it'd install on Debian. |
00:51 |
Peacock |
other way round ogb |
00:51 |
Peacock |
ubuntu was conceived as a simpler version of debian |
00:51 |
Peacock |
back in the day |
00:51 |
us_0gb |
I see. |
00:52 |
Peacock |
as in simpler to maintain and simpler to obtain non free shit without games like renaming firefox to iceweasel |
00:53 |
us_0gb |
THere was a good reason for that. Firefox doesn't meet Debian's standards. |
00:53 |
Peacock |
yeah but who gives a shit? they're an OS, not a PAC |
00:54 |
Peacock |
and iceweasel is the same ducking thing lol the only thing it accomplishes is to confuse users looking for firefox |
00:54 |
us_0gb |
It matters. THings that come with the OS need to meet the OS's standards. |
00:54 |
us_0gb |
Firefox has some copyright issues. |
00:54 |
VanessaE |
us_0gb: no, the iceweasel/firefox thing was a licensing issue over the firefox logo and the like. |
00:54 |
us_0gb |
The change bypasses them. |
00:54 |
Peacock |
and that's why most real people run debian derivatives instead of pure debian lol |
00:54 |
VanessaE |
(a completely stupid argument either way) |
00:55 |
Peacock |
over a logo? yeah |
00:55 |
us_0gb |
I'm not for Debian in any way, but what they did makes perfect sense. |
00:55 |
Peacock |
to think competent programmers would waste their time on such an issue |
00:57 |
Peacock |
if what they did makes perfect sense, why are they the only distro to rename firefox? |
00:57 |
us_0gb |
You don't see it as an issue, but it's a bigger deal than you give it credit for. License issues are the ugly side of programming and development. To NOT worry about it would be incompetent. That said, choosing to go with pure Firefox is a competent decision too, assuming thought was put into it. |
00:57 |
us_0gb |
Peacock: Some others rename Firefox as well. |
00:58 |
Peacock |
so why is it not an issue for every distribution that uses firefox? |
00:58 |
us_0gb |
Abrowser, IceWeasel, and IceCat are all Firefoc variants. |
00:58 |
Peacock |
(as firefox) |
00:58 |
us_0gb |
*Firefox |
00:58 |
Peacock |
did ubuntu and arch pay to use the firefox logo or what? |
00:58 |
us_0gb |
THey choose to use pure Firefox. That's fine. But it's not the only competent option. |
00:59 |
us_0gb |
No, they just choose to lock down the distro to comply with the copyright. |
00:59 |
Peacock |
so they can use pure firefox, but debian & cie chose to make a political thing out of it, even though their job is to program/put together an OS lol |
00:59 |
us_0gb |
Firefox cannot be sold. Therefore, any distro containing it cannot be sold. |
01:00 |
us_0gb |
I believe there are a couple other issues as well. |
01:00 |
Peacock |
i dont think any linux distro is in any danger of becoming a commercial success lol begware perhaps (donation), but commercial? doubt it |
01:00 |
us_0gb |
Being commercial isn't the issue. Being ABLE to be commercial is. |
01:01 |
Peacock |
to me and most pragmatic people, it's a non-issue, like alot of changes debian makes lol |
01:01 |
us_0gb |
And you can use one of those other distributions then. More power to you. |
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01:02 |
Peacock |
thats one thing i could never get, the fsf crowd want to retain the option of commercializing something, but place burdensome restrictions on developers, which seems to inhibit their own ability to commercialize their work, seems hypocritical to me lol |
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01:02 |
Peacock |
but hey, at least i can sell mousepads lol |
01:02 |
us_0gb |
Don't lump Debian in with us FSF folk, please. |
01:03 |
Peacock |
true, the FSF is 2 or 3x the zealotry of debian, but debian could still use a move closer to the center, to say nothing of the FSF lol |
01:04 |
us_0gb |
That's the great thing about the huge number of distributions available. We can keep our standards, and you can keep your "center". |
01:04 |
us_0gb |
Everyone wins. |
01:04 |
Peacock |
yeah but if the FSF knocks windows and mac users, i don't expect them to treat centrist linux distros any better |
01:05 |
us_0gb |
And you don't seem to be treating us any better either. It goes both ways. |
01:05 |
Peacock |
ever since i switched to linux i've been taking shit for running binary video drivers, and a few times it almost made me switch back to windows, lucky for linux back then the current windows version was ME lol |
01:06 |
Peacock |
im sorry but i can't abide zealotry in any form, whether it's religion or software |
01:06 |
us_0gb |
I apologize for that. |
01:06 |
Peacock |
at least the jehova's only come at my door once a month lol |
01:07 |
us_0gb |
A bit off topic, but I today found out one of my coworkers is a Jehovah's Witness. |
01:07 |
Peacock |
example https://my.fsf.org/donate/windows7sins/ |
01:08 |
Peacock |
i wouldn't mind jehova's so much if i hadn't lived in some low-rent neighbourhoods the last few years |
01:08 |
Peacock |
seems the more they think you're poor, the easier a target for conversion you should be lol |
01:08 |
us_0gb |
That's understandable. |
01:09 |
us_0gb |
(I mean about "<Peacock> i wouldn't mind jehova's so much if i hadn't lived in some low-rent neighbourhoods the last few years".) |
01:09 |
Peacock |
well the fact that they employ class profiling for their excursions should only make it worse, no? |
01:10 |
Peacock |
and it also depends on geography, these religious type showed up at our door every two weeks growing up in ontario |
01:11 |
us_0gb |
john_minetest: Mormans do. And they send you to other countries to do it. |
01:11 |
Peacock |
even my parents who are 10x more polite than i am lost their cool with them lol |
01:11 |
VanessaE |
ok, I'm off. back in an hour or two |
01:12 |
us_0gb |
Peacock: Those religions types tend to be usaccepting of us non-heterosexuals. I tell them I'm asexual, and they're no longer interested in me. It makes life a little easier. |
01:13 |
Peacock |
so i should offer the religious people a blowjob? lol |
01:14 |
us_0gb |
THat might work. |
01:15 |
Peacock |
well i always tend to troll them by saying all sorts of ridiculous shit |
01:15 |
Peacock |
so that'd be worth trying out lol |
01:15 |
kaeza |
trolls be trolled |
01:16 |
Peacock |
though judging from the scandals of the last 20 years, they might just go for a blowjob lol |
01:16 |
us_0gb |
What do you do if they take you up on the blowjob offer? |
01:17 |
Peacock |
i'd have to ask for an obscene amount of money lol |
01:17 |
Peacock |
the catholic church has plenty of money for all those paedophilia lawsuits though :/ |
01:18 |
us_0gb |
I actually found I have very similar beliefs as my coworker. Aside from, you know, him believing in a higher power and afterlife. |
01:18 |
Peacock |
id rather believe in cyclical history and reincarnation, but i know that's about as believable as all the other fairy tales |
01:19 |
Peacock |
so i accept that i have no fucking clue what will happen when i die |
01:19 |
Peacock |
i believe in being surprised :P |
01:19 |
us_0gb |
I would love to believe in reincarnation. I don't want to disappear forever when I die. |
01:20 |
us_0gb |
Of course, it would be preferable to keep your memory in the new life, but maybe that's asking too much. |
01:21 |
us_0gb |
I see. |
01:21 |
Peacock |
well even dreams are weird like that, they almost feel like alternate universes |
01:21 |
us_0gb |
So there would still be an end then. |
01:21 |
Peacock |
there isn't really an end or a beginning if the universe is infinite |
01:21 |
us_0gb |
THinking of the end always makes me sad. |
01:22 |
us_0gb |
From what john_minetest said, from our perspective, it's all simultaneous, it seems. Meaning nothing after, as all our lives will seem to end at once. |
01:23 |
us_0gb |
Assuming that is real. |
01:24 |
us_0gb |
Any of those (besides disappearing) would be better than disappearing. |
01:24 |
Peacock |
and time isn't 1-way |
01:24 |
Peacock |
it's just that we can only travel one way on the 4th dimension (time) |
01:24 |
Peacock |
though who knows? you could be reincarnated in the 17th century for all we know :P |
01:24 |
Peacock |
from what i read, if the universe is infinite, then the pattern is bound to repeat, and they imply there's more than one Earth and You |
01:26 |
Peacock |
well it seems scientist still aren't 100% sure what conscientiousness or dreams are, or why the laws of physics (ex. pi) are the way they are |
01:27 |
us_0gb |
Some scientists theorize that our universe is nothing more than a simulation on a machine. If they prove that right, the implications would be huge. It would mean that there are things we can't find, but exist anyway. Like levels in a game, completely isolated. |
01:27 |
us_0gb |
Lucid dreaming is indeed fun. |
01:27 |
Peacock |
my dreams are fucked up lol the reason i can't sleep much too lol |
01:28 |
us_0gb |
I can't do it anymore, as I wake as soon as I realize it is a dream, but I used to do it on occasion. |
01:28 |
Peacock |
me the minute i realize im dreaming the dream gets 10x more fucked up lol |
01:28 |
stormchaser3000 |
i have a lucid lunux |
01:28 |
stormchaser3000 |
iam running it right now |
01:29 |
Peacock |
like you realize you're dreaming, and suddenly you can fly |
01:29 |
stormchaser3000 |
i am running ubuntu 10.04 |
01:30 |
Peacock |
ever seen The Lathe of Heaven? |
01:30 |
us_0gb |
If you want to lucid dream, you need to learn to look for the signs of the dream state. For example, flip light switches when you pass them in the waking world. Once in the habit, you'll start to do it in dreams. But light switches don't usually work correctly in dreams. |
01:30 |
Peacock |
speaking of Freud, a recent recurring dream is me walking around town in my underwear lol |
01:31 |
Peacock |
naw for me lucid dreams kick in when i realize things don't make sense |
01:31 |
Peacock |
normally everything that happens in dreams feel 100%, though for me, 5% of the time i remember real life lol |
01:32 |
us_0gb |
Exacly, when things don't makes sense. When you flip the switch and the light won't turn off, it makes no sense. |
01:32 |
Peacock |
*feel 100% normal |
01:32 |
Peacock |
well for me it's not specific things like switches |
01:32 |
Peacock |
its like say, being back in Montreal, even though in the dream i know i left the city 3 years ago |
01:33 |
us_0gb |
Switches are only one example, and an easy thing to look for. |
01:33 |
Peacock |
this one dream, i was back in montreal, crossing the busiest bridge in Canada on foot, no cars, no signs of life, i knew i was dreaming |
01:34 |
Peacock |
well i have a dozen different dreams per night |
01:35 |
Peacock |
each of which feels like a full day or more of activity |
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01:35 |
Peacock |
the most recurring dream is the one where im running away from some maniac and in the end i get dizzy and pass out, thats when i wake up lol |
01:35 |
us_0gb |
Everyone has multiple dreams per night. |
01:36 |
us_0gb |
You usually only remember the one you wake during though .... |
01:36 |
Peacock |
you usually remember the last dream or two |
01:37 |
Peacock |
i seriously wonder what it would be like to command 100% of our brain's faculties |
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01:37 |
Peacock |
would we remember every detail of every dream, or would we not dream at all because the subconscious would be the same as the conscious? |
01:38 |
us_0gb |
Yet. |
01:38 |
Peacock |
dunno if the scientists are full of shit, but they say we only use 10% of our brains lol |
01:38 |
us_0gb |
It will be possible. |
01:38 |
Peacock |
yet = millions more years of evolution |
01:38 |
Peacock |
if we make it that far |
01:39 |
Peacock |
i have doubts humanity will live to see the 22nd century lol |
01:39 |
us_0gb |
Now that we have great medical technology, and save so many weaker people, we are actually not evolving in as positive of a direction any more. |
01:40 |
Peacock |
medical technology is a bain so long as every human consumes as much as he does now |
01:40 |
us_0gb |
More medical issues pop up now. |
01:40 |
Peacock |
*bain = bane |
01:40 |
Peacock |
if people could live with less things, you could have more people |
01:40 |
Peacock |
but since people want more things, wanting more people doesn't help the environment |
01:41 |
us_0gb |
I'm not saying it's bad to save people, but we can't expect to advance physically. We need to focus on advancing our knowledge and technology instead. |
01:41 |
Peacock |
naw, save the people that are alive, but for god's fucking sakes, stop them reproducing lol |
01:41 |
Peacock |
bring the pop down to 1-2 billion, maybe less |
01:42 |
us_0gb |
john_minetest: For example, making medical technology even better. |
01:42 |
us_0gb |
There are too many people, yes. It makes me glad to not be contributing to it, as I don't have children. |
01:42 |
Peacock |
the OECD countries don't have a problem there, we're already not reproducing to replace each couple, but the rest of the world... |
01:43 |
Peacock |
you nuts? Germany will be the EU one day |
01:43 |
Peacock |
if not genetically then at least politically |
01:43 |
us_0gb |
"EU"? |
01:43 |
Peacock |
European Union :P |
01:44 |
us_0gb |
Ah. I saw "end user". |
01:44 |
Peacock |
same problem in every western country :P too many people who found it too expensive to raise children in the west |
01:44 |
Peacock |
or plainly people who didn't think it worthwhile to bring children into a world with so much conflict |
01:45 |
us_0gb |
It's not a money issue for me, though I do delight in thinking of the money I'll save. |
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01:45 |
Peacock |
i simply dont want to bring children into this world, aside from education costs, i dont want to think how much harder they'd have it trying to make a living considering i find it tough already |
01:46 |
Peacock |
i'd have to cross my fingers and hope they'd want to be engineers, but if they don't, they might find it very hard indeed |
01:47 |
Peacock |
I take it as a given that when i retire, there wont be a public pension system |
01:47 |
Peacock |
they're already talking about assited-suicide, which in 20 years will probably be compulsory lol |
01:47 |
Peacock |
Canada :P which means apart from pensions we're also paying for healthcare |
01:48 |
Peacock |
true, but on the flipside you also don't have a minimum wage, considering how many shitty jobs i've done to get by, i woudln't want to be there :/ |
01:49 |
Peacock |
euros might be worth more than CDN$, but 3 euros/h is still worth less than 10$/CDN |
01:50 |
Peacock |
thats why im glad im not an american :P |
01:50 |
Peacock |
they can rule the world for all i care, so long as the hospital doesn't stick me for a huge bill in my country |
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01:53 |
Peacock |
is 400 eu enough for rent? |
01:54 |
Peacock |
not too shabby |
01:54 |
Peacock |
i pay 490 cad for downtown in a small city |
01:55 |
Peacock |
it's cheaper further out, but i'd need a car to get every thing done |
01:55 |
Peacock |
you need schooling to work in factories? |
01:56 |
Peacock |
jesus i have practically no schooling and have had 30 very different/varying jobs, from disgusting dishwasher to management lol |
01:56 |
Peacock |
well free schooling makes all the differences, schools are a business in NA and they don't necessarily tell you that there's no job waiting for you at the other end here |
01:58 |
Peacock |
though in quebec we had quite a bit of civil disturbances lately when they tried to increase rates for school, and the ruling party was voted out of power as aresult |
01:58 |
Peacock |
no one misses the anglo-mafia party (liberal) here lol |
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02:00 |
Peacock |
only 22 hours here |
02:00 |
Peacock |
still 1 hour till lastcall |
02:01 |
Peacock |
well, last call at the retail is 23 hours, last call in bars is 3ams lol |
02:02 |
Peacock |
http://youtu.be/r8hjtFq3vE0 |
02:03 |
Peacock |
or something more modern: http://hypem.com/track/1y5y1/Daft+Punk+feat.+Panda+Bear+-+Doin%27+It+Right+%28Solheiro+Remix%29 |
02:04 |
Peacock |
not exactly a music video hehe |
02:04 |
Peacock |
is rammstein big at all in germany like it is here? |
02:06 |
Peacock |
int'l selections tend to be weak in record stores |
02:06 |
Peacock |
so unless you know what torrents you're looking for... lol |
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02:09 |
Peacock |
rap? you're not serious lol |
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02:10 |
Peacock |
ugh, even in the 90s we always said rap is crap with a silent C |
02:11 |
Peacock |
meh, talk to me about rock or techno, not rap and raggae lol |
02:11 |
Enke |
Hello. |
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02:12 |
Peacock |
considering all the gang violence in Canada in the last few years, no one wants to hear about rap here lol |
02:12 |
Enke |
Just looking around today. What are we talking about? |
02:13 |
Enke |
Hmm. I know nothing about this topic. |
02:13 |
Peacock |
where does van buren come from? |
02:14 |
Peacock |
*Aarmin Van Buuren |
02:15 |
Peacock |
ah, netherlands |
02:16 |
Peacock |
weird that Netherlands = Dutch people lol |
02:17 |
Peacock |
though i guess Dutchland is too much like deutschland |
02:17 |
Peacock |
*capital D |
02:18 |
Enke |
Anybody know anything about the release date for 0.4.8? |
02:18 |
Peacock |
yes, the rapture |
02:19 |
Enke |
IIC, but seriously |
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02:20 |
Peacock |
okay, ittl be releases when North Korea becomes a democracy XD |
02:20 |
Peacock |
(hint: no one knows :P) |
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02:20 |
Enke |
Yeah, I can tell. |
02:20 |
Peacock |
the milestones sortof keep changing |
02:20 |
Peacock |
depending on the bugs they wanna get fixed or the features they want finished |
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02:21 |
Enke |
Mm hm. |
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02:22 |
Peacock |
in any case, you can keep abreast with minetest-git |
02:22 |
Peacock |
hell have two breasts with minetest git XD :P |
02:23 |
Enke |
Sounds like a plan. |
02:23 |
Peacock |
you could probably talk with someone more serious if it already wasn't late in the EST timezone :P |
02:23 |
Peacock |
ANNNNNNNND he's gone lol |
02:24 |
Peacock |
nighty night |
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02:31 |
* Peacock |
makes cupcakes |
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02:48 |
* Peacock |
laces the cupcakes with rat poisom |
02:48 |
* Peacock |
*poison |
02:49 |
NakedFury |
vanilla cupcakes? |
02:51 |
NakedFury |
nodecakes |
02:51 |
Peacock |
vanilla rat-poison cupcakes :P |
02:52 |
Peacock |
uber-tasty |
02:52 |
NakedFury |
thats how minetest will be differentiated from other voxel games. we have cupcakes crafting |
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02:59 |
* paramat |
is up late as usual |
03:00 |
NakedFury |
im always up late |
03:00 |
NakedFury |
are you guys doing well? |
03:00 |
NakedFury |
or doing good? which ever version is the correct one |
03:03 |
zat |
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-pe0uhKAEBi4/UUEnHaK-IaI/AAAAAAAAC6Y/hKncNpLEGpQ/s1600/honey-im-tired-come-to-bed-now-hold-on-someone-is-being-wrong-on-the-internet.png |
03:04 |
zat |
well that title is kind of ultraautoselfexplanatory. |
03:04 |
NakedFury |
yeah |
03:04 |
NakedFury |
thats the worst when linking images |
03:04 |
NakedFury |
the title is a spoiler |
03:04 |
paramat |
NF, thanks, im doing well good |
03:07 |
NakedFury |
I should always ask. Its nice when someone asks how you are, even if they are internet faceless friends |
03:08 |
paramat |
Peacock, what gravity do you intend for your 'deep space lol' asteroid field? ;) https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7224 |
03:10 |
NakedFury |
it would be nice if we could make gravity generator nodes which could make 2 different gravities in 1 area |
03:10 |
NakedFury |
great for puzzles and space themed modes |
03:11 |
paramat |
... one problem with that mod is the jump velocity is not reduced far enough in asteroid type gravity, i need to make the jump programmable too |
03:12 |
NakedFury |
in the recently new game Space Engineers (still in alpha) you use gravity generators and depending on the position you place them the gravity is different |
03:12 |
NakedFury |
you can also have 2 at the same time on opposite sides cancelling each other. great fun just using them for a while |
03:13 |
paramat |
NF, gravity is per player so you can set it to whatever depending on their co-ords |
03:16 |
NakedFury |
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vNvrV2jypgI/Ujbs1VQ9ZzI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/vu6qthjrM-c/s400/gravity.png |
03:16 |
NakedFury |
thats an example on the game |
03:17 |
NakedFury |
in that game: A gravity generator has an effective radius of 150 meters. Gravity forces from multiple overlaying gravity generators aggregate. |
03:20 |
NakedFury |
http://blog.marekrosa.org/2013/09/artificial-gravity-in-space-engineers.html |
03:20 |
NakedFury |
thats a good article on their decisions on gravity generator |
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03:25 |
paramat |
> "overlaying gravity generators aggregate" thats cool |
03:25 |
NakedFury |
it allows for crazy effects in game |
03:26 |
paramat |
MT seems to be inherently one-direction-gravity ... which fits with the ancient flatworld cosmology |
03:26 |
NakedFury |
yes |
03:27 |
paramat |
despite that i want to gen somcubic planets with trees, grass etc. on the sides and bottom |
03:27 |
NakedFury |
sorry to what? |
03:27 |
NakedFury |
gen somcubic? |
03:27 |
paramat |
somcubic = some cubic \o/ |
03:27 |
NakedFury |
oh |
03:28 |
NakedFury |
http://www.wallpaperfo.com/thumbnails/detail/20120427/video%20games%20world%20minecraft%204096x3072%20wallpaper_www.wallpaperfo.com_94.jpg |
03:28 |
NakedFury |
like in that picture |
03:29 |
paramat |
gen somcubic lol |
03:29 |
paramat |
yep like that |
03:30 |
* paramat |
fixes food ... |
03:30 |
NakedFury |
that would be great for space modes |
03:30 |
NakedFury |
on the players perspective he is always looking normal not upside down? |
03:39 |
paramat |
you would climb across the planet sides as if they were giant walls |
03:39 |
us_0gb |
Good luck getting liquids to behave properly. |
03:40 |
* paramat |
wonders if wuzzy is fuzzy ... |
03:40 |
NakedFury |
man minecraft/minetest style games beg for Assassins Creed, Uncharted style wall climbing and movement style |
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NakedFury |
crawling through 1x1 holes. hanging from ledges, climbing rocks, etc |
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kaeza |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=116366#p116366 |
04:08 |
* kaeza |
has a sudden urge to punch his monitor |
04:09 |
VanessaE |
now now |
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04:13 |
gorilla |
hey kaeza. Whoops. Yeah that topic was a little old. :-) |
04:13 |
pitriss |
Please can anyone help me with formspec? I'm trying to create some gui, but, some fields are not showing at all.. |
04:13 |
kaeza |
hey |
04:18 |
kaeza |
pitriss, maybe you missed a ']' somewhere (or forgot to specify some parameter) |
04:18 |
kaeza |
could you pastebin some code? |
04:19 |
pitriss |
kaeza: of course.. http://pastebin.com/MVhSTK7Q |
04:20 |
pitriss |
first label, those 3 fields for coords and button are showing properly |
04:20 |
NakedFury |
who was it that wanted earth map in mintest? http://i.imgur.com/QylBmaJ.jpg |
04:21 |
NakedFury |
minecraft earth 1:1500 scale |
04:21 |
NakedFury |
http://www.planetminecraft.com/project/the-recreation-of-the-earth-11500-scale/ |
04:21 |
pitriss |
It is first time when i'm playing with formspec so, is highly possible that I made some stupid msitake somewhere |
04:21 |
NakedFury |
Download size survival is 3.4GB, creative 1.4GB\ |
04:21 |
NakedFury |
damn! |
04:22 |
kaeza |
pitriss, formcpec? |
04:23 |
pitriss |
ahh |
04:23 |
pitriss |
ty.. |
04:23 |
pitriss |
i should wake better and then start to code:D |
04:24 |
kaeza |
np :P |
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pitriss |
btw how i collect all data into one table from that? |
04:26 |
kaeza |
depends; I'll assume that is part of a chat command |
04:26 |
kaeza |
use minetest.register_on_player_receive_fields() |
04:27 |
pitriss |
yes it is part of command.. |
04:29 |
pitriss |
kaeza: and formname is my variable with this formspec? |
04:30 |
kaeza |
http://pastebin.com/XbDfUsZc |
04:30 |
kaeza |
something like that should work |
04:30 |
paramat |
... real asteroids are in freefall so astronauts only feel their local asteroid's gravity, but in a MT realm with fixed asteroids, |
04:31 |
paramat |
... i assume the astronaut feels the combined gravity of the asteroid field |
04:36 |
pitriss |
kaeza: thanks I think i get it:) |
04:42 |
kaeza |
yw |
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fairiestoy |
Good morning ( or so ). Anybody knows if entities that are frozen ( for example from the old mining laser ) in the world, still are a performance killer or just static objects that need diskspace. Since there are a few on my favourite server and i would like to know if they should be removed |
05:45 |
VanessaE |
you can remove them with worldedit |
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05:53 |
fairiestoy |
Even if they are not punchable? |
05:54 |
reactor |
o/ |
05:54 |
fairiestoy |
I otherwise thought of /clearobjects ( or so ), but guess that would take out the server for a while |
05:58 |
VanessaE |
yup |
05:58 |
VanessaE |
you just have to enclose them between two markers and do //clearobjects with two slashes |
06:01 |
fairiestoy |
Okay, will ask the admin then to do it. Will be busy for a while with that .__. Thanks for the info |
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pitriss |
please how i can do that formspec will close after pressing button? |
06:10 |
fairiestoy |
pit; see pm ;P |
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pitriss |
ok ty |
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06:36 |
reactor |
Btw. |
06:37 |
reactor |
Half-Life: Decay, anyone? |
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06:55 |
reactor |
TheLastProject: what is your last project, exactly? |
06:56 |
TheLastProject |
I need another nickname q.q |
06:57 |
reactor |
Pwned. |
06:57 |
TheLastProject |
It's not really "Pwned" it's "Oh God, please make the repetitive joke I've heard over and over for years stop by now, I'm sick of people's lack of originality" |
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06:58 |
reactor |
Yes, sometime people's nicks are really repetitive. |
06:59 |
reactor |
s/me/mes/ |
06:59 |
TheLastProject |
Purposely acting as if you're misunderstanding me doesn't make you appear smarter :P |
07:00 |
kaeza |
reactor, somestime? |
07:00 |
reactor |
s/mes/me |
07:00 |
reactor |
s/me /mes / |
07:00 |
reactor |
Are you satisfied now? |
07:00 |
kaeza |
Pwned |
07:00 |
reactor |
This is interesting. Would you like to talk about it? |
07:02 |
reactor |
TheLastProject: that's a hell of an assumption. |
07:03 |
reactor |
s/umption// |
07:04 |
TheLastProject |
I have enough people hitting on me already, and so far, you're the least interesting candidate. Even though your flirting style is rather unique, it's definitely not my tast |
07:04 |
TheLastProject |
*taste |
07:04 |
reactor |
I'm not flirting with you. |
07:06 |
TheLastProject |
Well, that makes you even less interesting |
07:07 |
reactor |
I don't aim to be interesting. |
07:07 |
TheLastProject |
Then what is your aim? |
07:08 |
reactor |
I don't use AIM. |
07:09 |
TheLastProject |
More of an ICQ fan? |
07:09 |
reactor |
Meh, IM. |
07:10 |
TheLastProject |
IRC is just IM as well |
07:10 |
TheLastProject |
Although it existed before that term really got popular :P |
07:11 |
reactor |
Well, technically yes. |
07:13 |
reactor |
It's the earliest and the most standardised of them. |
07:13 |
reactor |
There's a pictrure about standards on XKCD. |
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08:28 |
sfan5 |
hi everyone |
08:28 |
nore |
hi sfan5 |
08:29 |
nore |
sfan5, vanessae.mine.bz:30003 |
08:29 |
nore |
mg+technic server |
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nore |
sfan5: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/MG_World_Map.png |
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08:57 |
sfan5 |
nore: yes |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all; happy Samhain! :-D |
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09:52 |
reactor |
I got to make amends for my bad English. |
09:53 |
reactor |
13:02 < reactor> TheLastProject: that's a hell of an assumption. |
09:54 |
reactor |
s/umption//, but also s/that's/you're/ |
09:54 |
reactor |
This is embarassing. |
10:02 |
reactor |
Oh. He's not here. |
10:02 |
reactor |
:( |
10:08 |
reactor |
Matrixiumn: you still can not escape, Cave. |
10:08 |
reactor |
We all know you've been accused in murder of at least one person. Or how else would you make GLaDOS? |
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10:31 |
Evergreen |
Quick question for anyone who has built a computer: What is a good priced (cheap) monitor I could use? It doesn't have to be very large |
10:32 |
Evergreen |
There is a salvage store for a university that I live close to, so I suppose I could find something there |
10:34 |
reactor |
Evergreen: o/ |
10:34 |
reactor |
Evergreen: get an old CRT with analog-only controls. |
10:34 |
reactor |
Will serve you ages. |
10:35 |
reactor |
Or one of these 1280x1024 LCDs from early 2000s. |
10:35 |
reactor |
I have one, and I only had to repair it once: bad capacitor. |
10:35 |
Evergreen |
They have some pretty good stuff(the university specializes in electronics and engineering) |
10:36 |
reactor |
Yes, look in the store. |
10:36 |
reactor |
It's good they're selling old stuff at your place. |
10:36 |
reactor |
My uni sends it all to disassembly/junkyard. |
10:37 |
Evergreen |
My friend got a function generator for pretty cheap, maybe I could find some IBM model m keyboards there while I'm at it |
10:38 |
reactor |
Function gens are useful. |
10:38 |
Evergreen |
The same friend actually got a whole bunch of IBM keyboards from the same place a little while ago |
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10:41 |
reactor |
john_minetest: o/ |
10:42 |
reactor |
Mkay. |
10:44 |
* Evergreen |
asks "How do I ask questions?" |
10:44 |
nore |
!questions |
10:44 |
MinetestBot |
someone thinks that your question is inaccurate or doesn't follow the guidelines. Read here how to make it right: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
10:44 |
nore |
Evergreen, ^ |
10:45 |
Evergreen |
Lol, I was just kidding |
10:45 |
Evergreen |
I only did it because th titel of the channel is "Don't ask about asking questions" |
10:46 |
Evergreen |
*the *title |
10:46 |
reactor |
!slap |
10:46 |
reactor |
!slap Evergreen |
10:47 |
Evergreen |
More computer building questions: What would a good mid price case be? |
10:47 |
reactor |
Evergreen: anything you find at that store |
10:48 |
reactor |
Evergreen: try several, if you may, with power supply unit on. See if they resonate. |
10:48 |
reactor |
If they do, do not buy. |
10:48 |
reactor |
Or try with a different PSU. |
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10:52 |
nore |
do you know who made the windmills mod? |
10:52 |
reactor |
Vanessa? |
10:53 |
nore |
I have an idea: a mechanical power mod |
10:53 |
nore |
you have energy, and axes and gear boxes to transmit the power |
10:54 |
reactor |
By the way. |
10:54 |
nore |
windmills and watermills to produce energy |
10:54 |
nore |
and various machines |
10:54 |
reactor |
Does car mod add only one kind of cars? |
10:54 |
nore |
dunno |
10:54 |
nore |
btw: anyone on vanessae.mine.bz:30003? |
10:55 |
nore |
map: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/MG_World_Map.png |
10:55 |
reactor |
Woah. |
10:56 |
reactor |
I see what you did there. |
10:56 |
nore |
? |
10:56 |
reactor |
Someone walked a long distance. |
10:56 |
nore |
this is a technic+mg server... |
10:56 |
reactor |
That's a griefing method. |
10:56 |
nore |
(so mapgen is special) |
10:57 |
nore |
that's why we had to explore a lot... |
10:58 |
nore |
a question: what do you think of the size of the biomes? |
10:58 |
nore |
too little? too big? |
10:58 |
reactor |
idk |
10:58 |
reactor |
Compared to real world, might be too small. |
10:58 |
nore |
yeah, ofc |
10:58 |
reactor |
But they're allright, I think. |
10:58 |
nore |
except the map is only 32km large... |
10:59 |
reactor |
32km! |
10:59 |
reactor |
Jesus H. Crist, that's a lot! |
10:59 |
nore |
no, I mean |
11:00 |
nore |
it is not possible to go further than +- 32000 |
11:01 |
nore |
the map here is 7x3.5km |
11:02 |
reactor |
Oh. |
11:02 |
reactor |
In general, or just on this server? |
11:04 |
nore |
I mean, the picture is 7x3.5km |
11:05 |
nore |
but the map itself is limited to 64x64km |
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nore |
no, problems are with Irrlicht |
11:12 |
nore |
and the fact that we use s16 for positions |
11:13 |
nore |
and doubles for player pos, etc |
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11:13 |
nore |
so larger maps -> rewrite everything |
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gorilla |
kaeza: Sorry about before. I was in a public library and I think the firewall on their WiFi kicked me out. |
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Evergreen |
Hey Jordach |
11:49 |
Jordach |
hello Evergreen |
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11:57 |
Dan_D |
Hello,may i have some help with formspecs? I have this, but you can't do any 2x2 crafts in the 2x2 grid. Help? https://forum.minetest.net/ |
11:58 |
Dan_D |
I mean http://pastebin.com/K7k1LeKb |
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12:01 |
Dan_D |
Unlesss minetestdoesn't support 2x2 crafting grids I suppose |
12:03 |
gorilla |
Dan_D: I haven't looked at formspec for minetest, but I can't see anything obviously wrong with what you have done. |
12:03 |
Dan_D |
Yes. It creates the formspec, but no crafts work in it, not even ones like torches that SHOULD work |
12:03 |
Evergreen |
Dan_D, Do you know how many mods have made 2x2 crafting grids? |
12:03 |
Dan_D |
Evergreen, this is for Realtest |
12:03 |
Evergreen |
Ik |
12:04 |
Dan_D |
And you can make the 3x3 tables |
12:04 |
Evergreen |
Look at some other mods that do that, you could get some help from them |
12:04 |
Dan_D |
But could you link me to a basic working 2x2 version? |
12:04 |
Dan_D |
'cause forum search just stinks |
12:05 |
pitriss |
please how I can use this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1742 to read/save my custom log (not minetest.conf) ? |
12:05 |
Evergreen |
Someone doesn't seem to like looking at the dv wiki, there is an example of 2x2 crafting right there: http://dev.minetest.net/formspec |
12:05 |
Dan_D |
Ok |
12:06 |
gorilla |
Evergreen: I thought it would be there somewhere. |
12:09 |
Dan_D |
Evergreen: Still won't work |
12:10 |
Dan_D |
Even though I adjusted it to 2x2, crafts don't happen unless they are shapeless |
12:10 |
Evergreen |
I can't really help you then |
12:10 |
Dan_D |
The craft I want works fine in a 2x2 area on a 3x3 grid though |
12:11 |
Evergreen |
Hmm, let me see If I can dig up a mod that can help you |
12:11 |
Dan_D |
Thanks |
12:11 |
Dan_D |
ALL I want is a 2x2 inventory grid, nothing else |
12:12 |
gorilla |
Dan_D: try the following: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3275 |
12:12 |
Evergreen |
How about this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5641 |
12:12 |
Dan_D |
That's the one i originally used |
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12:13 |
Evergreen |
which one? |
12:13 |
Dan_D |
I used gorilla's |
12:13 |
Evergreen |
Try Blockmen's, it may work |
12:13 |
gorilla |
okay.. it's getting a litle old. (12+ months) |
12:13 |
Dan_D |
I will now |
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12:14 |
* Jordach |
wants Minetoon |
12:22 |
Dan_D |
Ok,it finally works now. |
12:23 |
Evergreen |
You're welcome. ;) |
12:23 |
nore |
it's fun to make giant biomes in mg... |
12:23 |
nore |
you get impressive results |
12:23 |
gorilla |
Dan_D: well done :-) |
12:23 |
Dan_D |
Thanks |
12:23 |
gorilla |
nore: giant biomes? |
12:23 |
nore |
yeah... almost endless |
12:24 |
* gorilla |
imagines something from Jack and the Beanstalk |
12:24 |
nore |
(except with fast and fly, ofc) |
12:24 |
pitriss |
please can someone help me with Settings interface? How I should start? config = Settings(filename) and then config:method() ? |
12:25 |
nore |
if anyone wants to try: download mg, and change the 512 on the lines 430, 431, 433, 434 in 2048 |
12:26 |
Jordach |
that's noresome! |
12:26 |
nore |
did you try it? |
12:26 |
* gorilla |
groans at the bad pun but smirks anyway |
12:27 |
Jordach |
^ not reactor |
12:28 |
kaeza |
mornings |
12:28 |
nore |
hi kaeza |
12:28 |
gorilla |
kaeza: hi |
12:29 |
nore |
kaeza, did you try big biomes with mg? |
12:29 |
kaeza |
not yet |
12:29 |
nore |
there is however a drawback: a giant junge with range_all=1 == very bad for the FPS... |
12:30 |
nore |
+l |
12:30 |
pitriss |
Morning kaeza |
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dafull97 |
hey guys |
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12:51 |
dafull97 |
HEllo? |
12:51 |
gorilla |
hi dafull97 |
12:52 |
dafull97 |
gorilla, are you a modder, admin... or somthing? =D |
12:52 |
Exio4 |
can't people just play minetest here? |
12:53 |
gorilla |
dafull97: In the minetest field, I'm a hack. Just started learning Lua. Why you ask? |
12:53 |
dafull97 |
no, i just play minetest... i just like to know the people that do that stuff... |
12:53 |
dafull97 |
i just like to know the people that mod and admin |
12:54 |
gorilla |
dafull97: Ahhh. fair enough then :-) |
12:54 |
dafull97 |
=) dont take offense to it... sorry if you did ... not the way i meant it |
12:54 |
Evergreen |
Okay, I can pretty much list the devs: sfan5 proller darkrose Pilzadam just to name a few |
12:54 |
Exio4 |
you should wait a bit, it looks creppy to ask for what you do after 15 seconds of saying hi |
12:54 |
* sfan5 |
puts a kitten on Evergreen's head |
12:54 |
Exio4 |
you should try to anti-ping them |
12:54 |
Evergreen |
Whoops, sorry. :P |
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Exio4 |
like $fan4, pro11er, dark0se, P1lzAdam, hnmmm |
12:55 |
Exio4 |
idk |
12:55 |
* Evergreen |
takes the kitten and puts it on his keyboard |
12:55 |
Evergreen |
fjhgspj/h;kjw |
12:55 |
* Evergreen |
TAKE THE KITTEN OF THE KEYBOARD |
12:55 |
Evergreen |
Whoops, sorry aobut that, caps lock |
12:56 |
dafull97 |
ya, i know most of them..... |
12:56 |
gorilla |
You can't type with a kitten. :-) |
12:56 |
Evergreen |
I don't know why caps lock even exists, it's just annoying |
12:56 |
Evergreen |
just hold shift for heaven's sake |
12:57 |
darkrose |
and thus, why it exists |
12:57 |
gorilla |
Evergreen: It's historical really. I usually get to the point where I force some paper under the key to stop that problem. |
12:57 |
pitriss |
Evergreen: there are some keys in czech layout which are more comfortable to write them with caps..:) |
12:57 |
Exio4 |
gorilla: make it work like a mod key and use it for keybinds |
12:57 |
Exio4 |
i actually use the caps lock like shift tho :P |
12:58 |
Evergreen |
I 'spose that would work too |
12:58 |
* darkrose |
uses caps quite a bit when writting macros, sql, and hex |
12:59 |
Evergreen |
^ For you it may be useful, for me it's just annoying |
12:59 |
Exio4 |
uses and uses |
12:59 |
Exio4 |
what is your use of the superl key? |
12:59 |
pitriss |
I must repeat my question when Evergreen highlighted so many smart ppl:D |
13:00 |
pitriss |
please can someone help me with Settings interface? How I should start? config = Settings(filename) and then config:method() ? |
13:00 |
nore |
Evergreen, about caps lock, it allows me to type letters like É (Linux only, under Windows it does not work (there it is truly useless)) |
13:01 |
nore |
for explaination, the letter "é" is under the "2", so shift+é = 2, Caps Lock+é = É |
13:01 |
Exio4 |
(nore (i guess you like (lisp-like (sentences)))) |
13:02 |
nore |
:p |
13:02 |
gorilla |
Exio4: :-D |
13:02 |
proller |
Ñ‘ |
13:02 |
darkrose |
also, left super = multi_key |
13:02 |
Exio4 |
É |
13:02 |
Exio4 |
É |
13:03 |
proller |
Ð |
13:03 |
kaeza |
Æ |
13:03 |
pitriss |
Ú Äš Ã:D |
13:03 |
Exio4 |
i can write it without using caps |
13:03 |
nore |
hey there were only 2 levels of parentheses... (that's more fun when there are several (())) |
13:03 |
kaeza |
(╯°□°)╯︵ â”»â”â”» |
13:03 |
Exio4 |
Å´ |
13:03 |
nore |
Exio4, how? |
13:04 |
Exio4 |
' then shift+e |
13:04 |
Exio4 |
É |
13:04 |
Exio4 |
spanish keymap |
13:04 |
* Exio4 |
goes back to us keymap :P |
13:04 |
nore |
faster to type like that on french keymap |
13:04 |
kaeza |
oh so you decided to switch :P |
13:04 |
kaeza |
ah :( |
13:04 |
Exio4 |
lol kaeza |
13:04 |
nore |
ð |
13:05 |
Exio4 |
ö |
13:05 |
nore |
<-- Alt-gr + h |
13:05 |
Exio4 |
ħ |
13:05 |
kaeza |
ħ |
13:05 |
nore |
ð |
13:05 |
Exio4 |
@ł€¶ŧâ†â†“→øþæßðđŋħjĸł~«»¢“â€nµ· |
13:05 |
Exio4 |
there |
13:05 |
nore |
âå€çþýûîô¶ÂøʱæðÛÎÔ¹«»©®ß¬ |
13:06 |
kaeza |
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
13:07 |
Evergreen |
Who doesn't love alt codes? :P |
13:07 |
darkrose |
¤°¤ |
13:09 |
ShadowNinja |
pitriss: Yep, make it local if you only need it in one file and put it in a table if you need it in more. |
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pitriss |
ShadowNinja: and filename should be absolute path? |
13:10 |
Jordach |
blender skills IV: http://i.imgur.com/dYAwEJ8.png |
13:13 |
gorilla |
Good night all. I'm calling it a day. |
13:16 |
ShadowNinja |
pitriss: I don't know, use minetest.get_modpath(modname) or minetest.get_worldpath() and concatenate the filename to the end of that. |
13:17 |
ShadowNinja |
(Including the forward-slash) |
13:18 |
pitriss |
yeah i used that with worldpath.. but im still getting : 14:17:28: ERROR[main]: ...2/minetest/bin/../games/testing/mods/multispawn/init.lua:7: attempt to call global 'Settings' (a nil value) |
13:18 |
pitriss |
even when i have local config = Settings(config_file |
13:18 |
pitriss |
in script |
13:19 |
nore |
pitriss, you need a more recent Minetest version |
13:20 |
ShadowNinja |
pitriss: You need a recent git version, look under unofficial builds at the download page(Or compile it yourself). |
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pitriss |
Ah.. okay okay.. thats it.. I'm testing that on older build but i have also latest compiled:) |
13:30 |
dafull97 |
what is the best server with the most features and least lag in you guys options? |
13:30 |
dafull97 |
opinons* |
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13:33 |
proller |
sky ! |
13:33 |
Jordach |
hell |
13:33 |
Jordach |
! |
13:34 |
kaeza |
midgard! |
13:34 |
proller |
sky have real hell place with melting stone 8) |
13:34 |
proller |
^ unique feature free! |
13:35 |
IceCraft |
hi |
13:47 |
reactor |
Glass slabs would be a good idea. |
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14:00 |
reactor |
?! |
14:00 |
kaeza |
"The Unity Web Player is not currently compatible with the operating system that you appear to be using." |
14:01 |
kaeza |
:( |
14:03 |
Jordach |
unity?! |
14:03 |
Jordach |
WHO DAFUQ USES THAT POS |
14:04 |
harrison |
which one? the Unity one? or the operating system? |
14:06 |
TheLastProject |
AFAIK Unity only supports crappy OSses |
14:06 |
TheLastProject |
So can only be one thing :3 |
14:07 |
harrison |
i suppose it is called Unity because political correctness |
14:07 |
harrison |
mondialism |
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TheLastProject |
If you put it that way, it is only ironic that it supports so little platforms and devides people |
14:07 |
harrison |
leftist nonsense |
14:08 |
harrison |
ubuntu + unity = ? |
14:09 |
harrison |
swahili mondialist swinewash |
14:10 |
harrison |
time for the velvet fist to discard the iron mitten |
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Dan_D |
Can a moderator please move the Realtest revamped topic to the games section? Thanks. |
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Dan_D |
Also, for some reason, when I click the fullscreen button the header in the Realtest game disappears, although the background stays. |
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reactor |
Dan_D: because of you, they seized my archives. |
15:02 |
reactor |
Dan_D: and neighbours were laughing at me. |
15:03 |
kaeza |
Dan_D, moved |
15:03 |
Dan_D |
Thanks! |
15:03 |
kaeza |
you may want to add a few screens to show the new stuff |
15:04 |
Dan_D |
Ok |
15:04 |
Dan_D |
I am a shitty builder, fancy building something nice with the gaame? |
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reactor |
Who? |
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Jordach |
http://hostcabi.net/domain/minetest.net :D |
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15:20 |
* Jordach |
has almost built minetest-classic with MSVC |
15:21 |
Jordach |
a big ass fork of 0.3.x |
15:23 |
Jordach |
it's mt nostalgia without the stupid ideas : |
15:23 |
Jordach |
:D |
15:23 |
TheLastProject |
Where can I find minetest-classic? |
15:24 |
Jordach |
http://minetest-classic.com |
15:24 |
Jordach |
oh, and #minetest-classic if you didn't know |
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proller |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abwIxwwRHKQ |
15:43 |
TheLastProject |
!up minetest-classic.com |
15:43 |
MinetestBot |
minetest-classic.com:30000 is up (753ms) |
15:43 |
proller |
oops sorry |
15:43 |
TheLastProject |
(Does that work?) |
15:43 |
proller |
wrong channel |
15:43 |
TheLastProject |
Hmm, okay, then it's my connection again |
15:46 |
reactor |
Weird. |
15:47 |
reactor |
My server hangs when clients connect. |
15:47 |
reactor |
Clients other than mine. |
15:48 |
Jordach |
reactor, does that mean your server is well hung :> |
15:48 |
reactor |
Jordach: do you want to talk about your penis size? |
15:48 |
reactor |
I'm all ears. |
15:49 |
kaeza |
y so srs? |
15:50 |
reactor |
Idk. |
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Jordach |
john_minetest, avast doesnt shoot down the shit i compile |
16:04 |
reactor |
Oh. I see. |
16:04 |
reactor |
It was corrupted user profile. |
16:04 |
reactor |
I deleted the profile, and the problem went away. |
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16:05 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
16:05 |
reactor |
Hello PlizAdam. |
16:05 |
Jordach |
hey Adam |
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16:11 |
GNADev|zRokh |
hi |
16:12 |
GNADev|zRokh |
ok, i need some advice on Copyright law... who could help me? |
16:12 |
Jordach |
wikipedia |
16:13 |
GNADev|zRokh |
not like that... |
16:13 |
GNADev|zRokh |
can i patent a video game? |
16:13 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i know it sounds dumb |
16:13 |
GNADev|zRokh |
or do i only have to register it |
16:14 |
reactor |
Patent a medicine. |
16:14 |
GNADev|zRokh |
like "Steam is a registered trademark of the Valve corporation" and so on... i want to register the name of my game |
16:14 |
reactor |
You want to patent Minetest, I get? |
16:14 |
reactor |
Beware. |
16:14 |
reactor |
It would be illegal. |
16:15 |
GNADev|zRokh |
no, im not :D |
16:15 |
GNADev|zRokh |
im makig a game |
16:15 |
GNADev|zRokh |
and want to publish it |
16:15 |
GNADev|zRokh |
but first i want to secure my behind |
16:15 |
Jordach |
GNADev|zRokh, trademarks are what you need |
16:16 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i know... |
16:16 |
Jordach |
patents are things such as inventions that (duly) need protection from blatant copying |
16:16 |
GNADev|zRokh |
yeah, like Sega patented the floating arrow in Racing games |
16:16 |
TheLastProject |
GNADev|zRokh: Possibly #fsf |
16:16 |
TheLastProject |
They know copyright stuff fairly well |
16:17 |
TheLastProject |
But if you don't watch out they'll go all FOSS on you |
16:17 |
GNADev|zRokh |
FOSS? |
16:17 |
TheLastProject |
Whatever you do, do NOT use the term "Intellectual properly" |
16:17 |
PilzAdam |
GNADev|zRokh, wrong channel |
16:17 |
GNADev|zRokh |
dude, shut up! |
16:17 |
TheLastProject |
GNADev|zRokh: Free Open Source Software (although they'll call it "Free Software") |
16:18 |
TheLastProject |
Although I'm honest when I say that #fsf could probably explain you such stuff |
16:18 |
TheLastProject |
They know a bit about patents and licenses and so |
16:18 |
Jordach |
they'll explain it with texts that are GFDL :P |
16:18 |
GNADev|zRokh |
srsly, im getting pretty fucking tired of you always telling me that, its just that i dont use much of other channels so i ask here first... |
16:18 |
Jordach |
we are now the yellow channel |
16:19 |
Exio4 |
they redirect you to a better channel for talking copyright |
16:19 |
Jordach |
we aren't the IRC directory of FreeNode |
16:19 |
Exio4 |
dude, deal with it, this is an offtopic chat |
16:19 |
PilzAdam |
GNADev|zRokh, srsly, im gettting pretty fucking tired of you always asking offtopic things here |
16:19 |
Exio4 |
mainly, and minetest support - rarely |
16:19 |
GNADev|zRokh |
TLP, the game i want to publish on Desura will not be free, but it will not be expensive |
16:19 |
pitriss |
PilzAdam: +1 |
16:19 |
GNADev|zRokh |
PilzAdam, plz... shut the fuck up |
16:19 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, +1 |
16:19 |
Exio4 |
we aren't forced to help you, are you paying for someone here to answer your answers? |
16:20 |
GNADev|zRokh |
how much of the time am i here anyway? |
16:20 |
pitriss |
GNADev|zRokh: please GTFO:) |
16:20 |
Exio4 |
GNADev|zRokh: you should stfu first. |
16:20 |
Jordach |
!stfu GNADev|zRokh |
16:20 |
Jordach |
!mute GNADev|zRokh |
16:20 |
MinetestBot |
GNADev|zRokh, someone thinks you need to shut the fuck up before you get muted. |
16:20 |
PilzAdam |
GNADev|zRokh, too much |
16:20 |
Exio4 |
hahaha |
16:20 |
Exio4 |
bbl |
16:20 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, thx |
16:20 |
pitriss |
nice shot:D |
16:20 |
* Jordach |
high fives PilzAdam |
16:20 |
PilzAdam |
o/\o |
16:20 |
Exio4 |
headshot |
16:21 |
Jordach |
+BOOM! |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all |
16:38 |
rubenwardy |
Where can I get a windows build for RBA's shader fork? |
16:38 |
rubenwardy |
I heard sfan5 made one. |
16:38 |
sfan5 |
yes I did |
16:39 |
Jordach |
i can't make the shaders work :( |
16:42 |
rubenwardy |
? |
16:43 |
rubenwardy |
Link please :P |
16:43 |
rubenwardy |
Found it |
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Jordach |
hmm?! |
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kaeza |
hmmm?! |
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rubenwardy |
How do I get the shaders to work? |
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rubenwardy |
kaeza, I recommend that you move this to old mods: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3836 |
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Inocudom |
The servers are very empty today, and the new shaders are like a door that keeps running away from us (everything is, actually.) |
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NekoGloop |
Wait, what's going on? |
17:53 |
rubenwardy |
Life, the universe, and everything |
17:55 |
reactor |
My system is, NekoGloop. |
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VirtualFall |
Why minetest.net not using cloudflar? |
18:07 |
TheLastProject |
PLEASE DON'T USE CLOUDFLARE |
18:07 |
TheLastProject |
FOR ALL THAT IS HOLY IN THE WORLD |
18:07 |
TheLastProject |
Cloudflare is a terrible thing |
18:07 |
VirtualFall |
=-= |
18:07 |
VirtualFall |
o-o |
18:07 |
VirtualFall |
why....? |
18:08 |
TheLastProject |
It has stopped me SO OFTEN from accessing a site just because I use Tor and then it wants me to fill in a stupid Captcha for which I need to run proprietary Javascript and gah |
18:08 |
* TheLastProject |
runs to the Cloudflare office to flip over their servers |
18:08 |
TheLastProject |
I just want to visit websites, I don't want it to be made so complicated q.q |
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Jordach |
s/office/datacentre |
18:11 |
VirtualFall |
Idea: Minetest 2.0 |
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VirtualFall |
Why minetest is not populary? |
18:17 |
Calinou |
because people don't like change? |
18:17 |
Jordach |
people don't like OSS in general |
18:18 |
Calinou |
^ |
18:19 |
VirtualFall |
and why minetest is not in hd? |
18:22 |
Calinou |
not in HD? |
18:22 |
Calinou |
too late |
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Evergreen |
Hi all |
18:36 |
MinetestBot |
WELCOME TO YOUR DOOM! |
18:38 |
Evergreen |
oh crap |
18:39 |
Evergreen |
That isn't good |
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Calinou |
hi Evergreen :) |
18:43 |
Evergreen |
Someone should program minetestbot to greet certain people |
18:43 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, http://i.imgur.com/jbT1eJ6.png |
18:43 |
Jordach |
18 hours later |
18:43 |
Evergreen |
Wow, I like the cartoony lookbetter than the reealistic one acutally |
18:44 |
Jordach |
borderlands ftw |
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Jordach |
here's my current window in blender: http://i.imgur.com/sgInGI7.png |
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reactor |
Fire is spreading unrealistically fast. |
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PilzAdam |
fire is unrealistically cubic |
19:58 |
Jordach |
This gun is unrealistically awesome: http://i.imgur.com/gD6A5At.png |
19:59 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, ^ |
19:59 |
Evergreen |
Saw it |
19:59 |
Evergreen |
:D |
19:59 |
Evergreen |
I have to go soon, I'll try my hand at some modeling when I get back |
20:00 |
Evergreen |
cya guys |
20:00 |
reactor |
Are there mods that add gore? |
20:01 |
Jordach |
nope nope nope |
20:03 |
Jordach |
!unmute GNADev|zRokh |
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* Jordach |
slaps john_minetest |
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* MinetestBot |
counter slaps john_minetest |
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Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/fOTXn1j.jpg |
20:30 |
Jordach |
plol |
20:30 |
Jordach |
context; My thoughts when I heard Edward Snowden got a new job in Russia. |
20:31 |
Jordach |
Uzi: http://i.imgur.com/vWrGaAv.png |
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PilzAdam |
bye |
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reactor |
But how come? |
20:53 |
reactor |
Oh, also, what could be causing too short usable distance in the firearms mod? |
20:54 |
ShadowNinja |
reactor: Nobody wants gore. You can code it yourself if you want it. |
20:54 |
ShadowNinja |
kaeza: ^ |
20:54 |
reactor |
Like, rifle only hits people from not more than 10 metres. |
20:56 |
Jordach |
reactor, loaded chunks can only have entities in them afaik |
20:56 |
reactor |
Chunks are see are loaded, aren't they? |
20:59 |
ShadowNinja |
reactor: No, not necessarily, the ServerMap and ClientMap are seperate. |
20:59 |
reactor |
mk |
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Jordach |
oh, and btw, http://i.imgur.com/hHDsCJH.png |
21:39 |
Jordach |
;) |
21:39 |
* Jordach |
needs to master blender even more |
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sfan5 |
Jordach: holy f**k |
21:43 |
Jordach |
sfan5, hadn't seen the AK yet? |
21:43 |
sfan5 |
NOPE |
21:43 |
Jordach |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=116527#p116527 |
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sfan5 |
nope* |
21:43 |
Jordach |
i take one technical drawing, a blender, ???, render, results |
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sfan5 |
you need to add these to openspades.. |
21:44 |
sfan5 |
that'll look much better |
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Peacock |
lol shit hit the fan in Toronto today |
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Peacock |
who knew the mayor would clean up the city by smoking all the crack in it? XD |
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dafull97 |
hey |
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Peacock |
pretty dead again on here lol |
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Megaf |
nah |
22:17 |
Megaf |
it is not |
22:17 |
Megaf |
I cant play, firewall and NAT blocking =/ |
22:19 |
Peacock |
destroy them |
22:21 |
VanessaE |
NAT won't stop you from reaching a server, but a firewall cam |
22:22 |
VanessaE |
can* |
22:22 |
VanessaE |
and if it is, well then fix it |
22:23 |
sfan5 |
I shouldn'read the wikipedia article on cloud computing while the "cloud to butt" extension is enabled... |
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VanessaE |
heh |
22:24 |
VanessaE |
http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/13/10/31/1923220/gpus-keep-getting-faster-but-your-eyes-cant-tell |
22:24 |
VanessaE |
BULL. |
22:24 |
VanessaE |
SHIT. |
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dante1234 |
hi all, trying "buildcraft" on my android tablet and I don't seem to be able to change the username etc. Its like the enter key acts like a spacebar instead. Any ideas? |
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dante1234 |
also this message comes up saying "Allow the user access" when I first start the program on my tablet. ??? |
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Megaf |
I can not change firewall rules, University network... |
22:43 |
Megaf |
Im using my 3G now |
22:43 |
Miner_48er |
dante1234 are you looking for minecraft? |
22:43 |
Megaf |
that is going to be quite laggy |
22:44 |
VanessaE |
dante1234: there's still some bugs in uit |
22:44 |
VanessaE |
Miner_48er: no, he means buildcraft - a port of Minetest to Android |
22:44 |
Megaf |
folks, do you remember that Notch said that he would Open Minecrafts code when the 1.0 stable became available? |
22:44 |
VanessaE |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7560 |
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22:45 |
Peacock |
notch says alot of things, notice he didn't finish that new game either |
22:45 |
VanessaE |
dante1234: not being able to put text into the forms is a known bug. |
22:45 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: well if you can't alter the firewall, tunnel through it :) |
22:46 |
VanessaE |
that's what SSH and VNC are for :D |
22:46 |
Megaf |
cant too, it seems like my domain is blocked here |
22:46 |
VanessaE |
damn |
22:46 |
fairiestoy |
Good ... eerm Night everybody. What are the exact headers for the routine implemented here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/4e1f50035e860a00636ca5d804c267119df99601/src/porting.h#L213 |
22:46 |
fairiestoy |
Argh nevermind |
22:46 |
fairiestoy |
first read, then write, forget it guys |
22:47 |
dante1234 |
VanessaE it is a MAJOR bug if you can't even play the game |
22:47 |
VanessaE |
yeah I know |
22:47 |
dante1234 |
How could they even release this thing in that condition??? |
22:47 |
Peacock |
android minetest? |
22:48 |
VanessaE |
dante1234: it is not an officially-sanctioned port of Minetest - why they released it, no idea |
22:48 |
VanessaE |
idk about the "allow access" issue though, I have not played it myself yet |
22:48 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: yes |
22:48 |
Peacock |
well its not like pc-minetest has always been 1--% either |
22:48 |
Peacock |
*100% |
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dante1234 |
Well, can i get rid of this and get my 3 dollars back? What is google play policy on that? |
22:49 |
Peacock |
god knows, i've never paid for an app, most of them are either fancy dressing for websites or flash games lol |
22:49 |
VanessaE |
dante1234: you'll have to take it up with the guys who ported it - they are not a part of this Community. |
22:50 |
VanessaE |
at least not yet |
22:50 |
Peacock |
lol maybe they just like toget things done :P |
22:50 |
Miner_48er |
dante1234 you could try this http://marktest.co.uk/2013/10/minetest-on-android/ |
22:50 |
VanessaE |
dante1234: I would recommend you file bug reports with the guys who made it and hang on to your existing copy - the porting authors may be willing to ship you a new apk with the bugs fixedl |
22:51 |
Peacock |
they seem to make other ports for money too, so i doubt they're interested in being part of any 1 community |
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VanessaE |
Miner_48er: he's playing with the client, not the server. |
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dante1234 |
thought i saw PilzAdam |
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dante1234 |
s name listed |
22:54 |
VanessaE |
nope |
22:54 |
dante1234 |
trying it on my phone, maybe it is a nexus 10 tablet issue |
22:55 |
dante1234 |
already wrote to google play.....asking for refund. Unfortunately didnt get to them before 15 minutes was up....but hoping for the best. |
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dante1234 |
His name is here under core developers |
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dante1234 |
along with sfan5 |
22:56 |
VanessaE |
that's because it's a port of the Minetest |
22:56 |
VanessaE |
engine |
22:56 |
dante1234 |
your name there too |
22:56 |
VanessaE |
but it is not a *sanctioned* port as such |
22:56 |
VanessaE |
in other words someone downloaded the Minetest source code, which already have everyone's names in there, and made it run on Android. |
22:57 |
VanessaE |
in fact they took the credits tab out briefly, but put it back in at celeron55's behest |
22:57 |
dante1234 |
i get that. |
22:57 |
dante1234 |
because you see names you know in there.....i figured it would be a good thing. Certainly not ready for prime time. |
22:58 |
VanessaE |
yeah, I know |
22:58 |
dante1234 |
That is such a HUGE bug....the damn thing doesnt work at all. Whoever released it should be ashamed...and are giving the whole minetest a black eye through guilt by association....I know it is not you or anyone else's intent. But hurts the credibility of the whole project. |
22:59 |
VanessaE |
you should post this in the forum thread I linked to |
22:59 |
VanessaE |
they need to see this |
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dante1234 |
which link? |
23:00 |
VanessaE |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7560 |
23:01 |
kaeza |
evenings |
23:01 |
VanessaE |
hey kaeza |
23:03 |
dante1234 |
cant do a damn thing on it. Cant enter username, or password, or IP or anything. Totally does not work. Major BUG |
23:03 |
VanessaE |
john_minetest: short version: it works I guess, but you can't enter any text into its formspecs. It costs $3 and is available from Google Play. |
23:03 |
Megaf |
about Notch Opening the source http://www.gamezone.com/news/2012/01/03/notch-releasing-minecraft-source-code-soon |
23:03 |
VanessaE |
dante1234: tried the public server page on the menu? |
23:04 |
VanessaE |
(the checkbox at the bottom in the Client tab) |
23:04 |
VanessaE |
or wair |
23:04 |
VanessaE |
or wait, |
23:04 |
VanessaE |
the "Multiplayer" tab |
23:04 |
VanessaE |
didn't realize this was based on an older version of the engine |
23:05 |
dante1234 |
yes, and everytime I choose one, it says soemthign abotu username and password missing or soemthing like that |
23:05 |
dante1234 |
does not work |
23:05 |
VanessaE |
figures. |
23:05 |
VanessaE |
most servers need passwords |
23:06 |
VanessaE |
and many don't know the "GuestXXXX" convention. |
23:06 |
dante1234 |
you cant edit or change anything....so basically its a piece of shit at this point |
23:12 |
dante1234 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=116553#p116553\ |
23:12 |
dante1234 |
My post on this |
23:13 |
VanessaE |
that puts it pretty succinctly! ;E |
23:13 |
VanessaE |
:D |
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dante1234 |
phew, google play refunded my money |
23:16 |
dante1234 |
Poor sorry bastards that released this should be ashamed! |
23:16 |
VanessaE |
oh goo! |
23:16 |
VanessaE |
good* |
23:16 |
dante1234 |
I would gladly contribute monetarily to this project, but anything released to public has to work |
23:16 |
VanessaE |
you need to post that. |
23:16 |
dante1234 |
I will |
23:16 |
VanessaE |
edit your message. "EDIT: Google refunded my money." |
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dante1234 |
Oops, I posted reply...but it appears right below it....they'll get the message. |
23:19 |
VanessaE |
good enough |
23:20 |
kahrl |
seriously? the refund window is 15 minutes? whoa |
23:20 |
kahrl |
after that time minetest is probably still downloading media... |
23:25 |
Peacock |
heavily modded servers: thats about all of them lol |
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23:26 |
Peacock |
well my space game should be quite simple too, got the idea from playing mc classic |
23:28 |
Peacock |
well basically hte whole map is asteroids, you got 7 ores but no plants |
23:29 |
Peacock |
well technically in space the 'air' would have drowning on, then i'd need to make an oxygen node like the original air, and some way to generate it w/o an abm meltdown lol |
23:30 |
Peacock |
air leaks are a problem too since they tend to fuck up the whole balance |
23:31 |
Peacock |
yeah well i figure like the powercells that have a wireless range, the airgens could have a range as well |
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Peacock |
*white |
23:31 |
Peacock |
:P |
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Peacock |
nity nite |
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Peacock |
wtf, two papers just came out with articles predicting global cooling |
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paramat |
that doesnt surprise me P |
23:58 |
Peacock |
UK's daily mail and CDN. financial post |
23:58 |
VanessaE |
cooling? |
23:59 |
Peacock |
i shit you not: http://opinion.financialpost.com/2013/10/31/lawrence-solomon-a-global-cooling-consensus/ |
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Peacock |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/And-global-COOLING-Return-Arctic-ice-cap-grows-29-year.html |
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