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stormchaser3000 |
hi |
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stormchaser3000 |
menche? |
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stormchaser3000 |
are you there |
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stormchaser3000 |
can someone help me compile minetest-classic |
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stormchaser3000 |
noone is talking on #minetest-classic |
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Evergreen |
To any core dev, I noticed a glitch with the mod selecting system in the configure world option |
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Evergreen |
when I select a modpack, go out of the world, and back in again, the modpack is disabled. eg., on my test world I have worldedit and mesecons installed, but they deselect every time I re enter the world |
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Evergreen |
Yes, I know I could just use worldmods, but it is still a glitch, and needs to be fixed |
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us}0gb |
Or move the "mods" out of the modpack and enable them. But only as a temporary fix, it is a bug that should be 'quashed. |
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Evergreen |
^ like I said, can be avoided, but it needs to be squashed |
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us}0gb |
RIght, I agree. |
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Evergreen |
there are a lot of glitches like that |
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Evergreen |
gotta go |
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pitriss |
please is possible to use sit animation from mod? |
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us}0gb |
Do you mean for players? No, not possible. |
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pitriss |
yes for players.. I found in technic game default that there is animation defined.. so I was wonder.. Thank you anyway |
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caustic |
hello. what is the command to fly after privileges have been granted? (/grant singleplayer fly) |
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VanessaE |
tap 'k' |
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VanessaE |
that toggles fly mode on/off |
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caustic |
less' see |
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caustic |
k it is :) |
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caustic |
MUCH thanks |
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caustic |
I did it while drunk on my computer but couldn't figure how to do it on my daughters |
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caustic |
I granted her the privilages...but couldn't remember what I did to turn it on! |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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caustic |
and how appropriate: K. her name is "Kaylin" |
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caustic |
beautiful :) |
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caustic |
now...a less pressing question...I notice the "no_clip" privilege. does that work like the quake version I am familiar with where I can walk through walls? |
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VanessaE |
yes |
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VanessaE |
only effective while flying though -- when noclip is enabled, walls are solid |
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VanessaE |
er, when disabled. |
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VanessaE |
(to clip means to prevent passage) |
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caustic |
what is the command to enable noclip? |
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VanessaE |
'h' |
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caustic |
BOOM! |
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caustic |
you quick :) |
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caustic |
i've been watching (just learned about) Epic Rap Battles of History and if there was a rap with you in it, you just WON! |
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caustic |
tytytytyty |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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VanessaE |
glad I could help |
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nore |
hi Calinou |
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Calinou |
hi |
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nore |
hi RealBadAngel |
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RealBadAngel |
hi nore |
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nore |
you don't join #minetest-technic? |
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RealBadAngel |
i do |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all; happy Orthopaedic Nurses Day! :-D |
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encelade |
Bonjour, est-ce que quelqu'un parle français? j'ai un problème pour m'inscrire dans le forum. Je reçois le message que je suis bot :-( |
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sfan5 |
encelade: more people will be able to help you if you use english |
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nore |
sfan5: I answered him |
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nore |
(pm) |
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encelade |
nore, je ne peux pas m'inscrire sur le forum |
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encelade |
il me dit que je suis bot |
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encelade |
nore- je n'ai pas compris comment faire un message privé |
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RealBadAngel |
newsflash: http://i.imgur.com/9HDZcFN.png http://i.imgur.com/989US1D.png |
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Dan_D |
Whatd o you think? Suggestions etc. https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=116232#p116232 |
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RealBadAngel |
Dan_D, make game out of it |
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RealBadAngel |
with frag counter, teams etc |
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kaeza |
mornings |
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RealBadAngel |
howdy kaeza |
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sfan5 |
my ATtiny13 can do XTEA encryption faster than counting to 0xff |
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sfan5 |
I'm surprised |
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kaeza |
RealBadAngel, nice! |
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Dan_D |
Ok |
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Dan_D |
What about adapt the Capture the Flag mod and make a sort of player army vs player army game? |
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Dan_D |
PilzAdam, what would I change in the throwing mod by you to stop the 'arrows' from falling, so they go in a straight line? |
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Dan_D |
Oh he'snot here |
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Dan_D |
Does anyone else know? |
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Dan_D |
Never mind found i |
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RealBadAngel |
https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest_GLSLshaders |
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RealBadAngel |
ive uploaded there branch with Paralax/steep Paralax mapping, water shaders |
| 11:24 |
RealBadAngel |
this is WIP, with many bugs |
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RealBadAngel |
testers with suggestions, help in code are welcome |
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proller |
RealBadAngel, why not forked? how to view diff to minetest ? |
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kaeza |
pitriss, yes, you can enable sit animation, but it requires modifying/copying player.lua |
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kaeza |
(the default model has a sit animation) |
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kaeza |
s/sit/sitting/g |
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pitriss |
kaeza: ohh:) i will look at this..:) I want to allow sit on LRfurn sofas:) |
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kaeza |
pitriss, the player animation API could use an overhaul; it is rather obscure, and leaks globals ;_; |
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kaeza |
anso not really extensible per-se |
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kaeza |
also* |
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pitriss |
ah okay.. so better not mess with that? |
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kaeza |
just a rant :P |
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kaeza |
pitriss, also: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3977 |
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pitriss |
kaeza: hmm hmm thanks for link.. :) |
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reactor |
o? |
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reactor |
I mean, o/ |
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reactor |
Fucking shift. |
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Dan_D |
Anyone here good with perlin/oregen? |
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Dan_D |
Is paramat here in any form? |
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Evergreen |
Idk, but I doubt it |
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Dan_D |
Oh well |
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nore |
Dan_D, what do you want with oregen |
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nore |
? |
| 13:07 |
Dan_D |
Well, realtest game uses an old on_generated thing. I am trying to update it to do the same thing, but the new api,and so faster.I can't though, I am not familiar with perlin. |
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Dan_D |
In my fork I mean |
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Dan_D |
Anyone? |
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Dan_D |
Hello |
| 13:24 |
Dan_D |
AGain |
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reactor |
Hello. |
| 13:25 |
reactor |
Danny boy. May I have a look at some screenshots? |
| 13:25 |
Dan_D |
? |
| 13:26 |
Dan_D |
Of what? |
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reactor |
Your fork? |
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Dan_D |
Ok |
| 13:27 |
reactor |
I'm a fork collector. |
| 13:27 |
reactor |
I like forks. |
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Dan_D |
Cutlery fork? |
| 13:27 |
reactor |
Yes. |
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Dan_D |
Sorry, can'tright now |
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| 13:28 |
reactor |
Did you know a fork makes a very good weapon? |
| 13:28 |
reactor |
One punch - four holes, they say. |
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Dan_D |
Or 3 depending |
| 13:28 |
reactor |
s/punch/stab/ |
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kaeza |
or 2 |
| 13:28 |
Dan_D |
2 ormore |
| 13:28 |
reactor |
Yes. But generally, 4. |
| 13:29 |
reactor |
But seriously, may I have a look at screenshots of your fork? |
| 13:29 |
Dan_D |
No. |
| 13:29 |
Dan_D |
I don't have a fork with me right now. |
| 13:29 |
reactor |
The game fork, stupid. |
| 13:29 |
Dan_D |
Ah |
| 13:30 |
reactor |
I'm not really collecting forks, am I? |
| 13:30 |
reactor |
:D |
| 13:30 |
Dan_D |
Do you mean the sloooowww orgen code? |
| 13:30 |
reactor |
?!! |
| 13:30 |
reactor |
Your game. |
| 13:30 |
Dan_D |
Or a photoin-game |
| 13:30 |
Dan_D |
So just a photo of the game? |
| 13:30 |
reactor |
Yes. |
| 13:30 |
reactor |
Some photos. |
| 13:30 |
Dan_D |
Ok |
| 13:30 |
Dan_D |
Be a moment making some nice uildin to picture |
| 13:31 |
reactor |
Mkay. Query me when you're done. |
| 13:34 |
reactor |
Sssssssssssssssssssss... BOOM! |
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Dan_D |
Imgur etc is broken it seems, I can't load any of their webpaes |
| 13:47 |
reactor |
Pwned. |
| 13:47 |
reactor |
Dan_D: why don't you use something better? |
| 13:47 |
reactor |
Set up a FTP server? |
| 13:47 |
Dan_D |
? |
| 13:47 |
Dan_D |
FTP Server? |
| 13:47 |
reactor |
Yes. |
| 13:48 |
reactor |
Dan_D: what OS are you familiar with? |
| 13:48 |
Dan_D |
None |
| 13:48 |
reactor |
Huh? |
| 13:48 |
Dan_D |
A tiny bit of Windows, a tiny bit of Linux |
| 13:48 |
reactor |
Then how do you use your computer? |
| 13:48 |
reactor |
Well. |
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Dan_D |
IDK |
| 13:48 |
reactor |
Why don't you set up a FTP server there under Linux? |
| 13:48 |
Dan_D |
I can't set up a server st my house btw |
| 13:48 |
reactor |
What? |
| 13:49 |
kaeza |
dropbox anyone? |
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reactor |
You have no external number, Dan_D? |
| 13:49 |
reactor |
kaeza: fuck cloud. |
| 13:49 |
Dan_D |
Externalnumber? |
| 13:49 |
reactor |
Network number. |
| 13:49 |
Dan_D |
IDK |
| 13:49 |
Dan_D |
How should I ko |
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kaeza |
reactor, hurr |
| 13:49 |
reactor |
You have to have one if you want to host services. |
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Dan_D |
I cannot host at my house |
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TheLastProject |
reactor: You mean "IP address"? |
| 13:50 |
reactor |
Oh. |
| 13:50 |
reactor |
I do. |
| 13:50 |
reactor |
Sorry. |
| 13:50 |
Dan_D |
I am not allowed to port forward etc |
| 13:50 |
reactor |
Dan_D: how come? |
| 13:50 |
reactor |
Dan_D: who is responsible for networking there? |
| 13:50 |
Dan_D |
I am not allowed to: Parents won't allow it |
| 13:51 |
Dan_D |
I am simply not allowed,it would be a possible security risk that we won't ake. |
| 13:51 |
reactor |
What OS are your parents familar with / what do they do for a living, just wondering? |
| 13:51 |
Dan_D |
Why should I tell you? |
| 13:51 |
reactor |
It's not exactly insecure if you take precautions. |
| 13:51 |
Dan_D |
Windowsis the os btw |
| 13:51 |
reactor |
Windows it a toy OS. |
| 13:52 |
Dan_D |
And my dad told me that no, we will NOT host a server |
| 13:52 |
reactor |
s/it/is/ |
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reactor |
I do, everyone does. but you don't. |
| 13:52 |
Dan_D |
I have to ask permission toconnect someone else'scom[uter to our network |
| 13:52 |
reactor |
This is weird. |
| 13:53 |
Dan_D |
weird you mean |
| 13:53 |
reactor |
But I'm curious, how much do your parents know about networking? |
| 13:53 |
kaeza |
Dan_D, just use dropbox |
| 13:53 |
Dan_D |
kaeza, how do I do that??? |
| 13:53 |
Dan_D |
Host a server on DropBox??? |
| 13:53 |
reactor |
No. |
| 13:53 |
kaeza |
... |
| 13:53 |
reactor |
Just put files there. |
| 13:53 |
reactor |
You're too lame to set up own server - use cloud. |
| 13:53 |
Dan_D |
I already have dropbox |
| 13:54 |
Dan_D |
I am not too lame, Idon't want another fucking row with my dad! |
| 13:54 |
reactor |
Ugh. |
| 13:54 |
Dan_D |
I don't see what Dropbox has to do with this/ |
| 13:54 |
reactor |
If your dad doesn't approve of your level of computer literacy, you are lame. |
| 13:55 |
Dan_D |
What do you mean? |
| 13:55 |
Dan_D |
Nothing to do wiht me |
| 13:55 |
zat |
Oh god... you all are way so condescending when it comes to teach something to someone. |
| 13:55 |
reactor |
If you weren't lame, you would be allowed to do stuff. |
| 13:55 |
Dan_D |
My dad is a complete fucktardwho I hate |
| 13:55 |
zat |
or well, reactor. |
| 13:55 |
reactor |
Sorry, zat. I'm just trying to help him. |
| 13:55 |
zat |
Doesnt look like that |
| 13:56 |
Dan_D |
'help him' 'you are lame.' |
| 13:56 |
Dan_D |
? |
| 13:56 |
reactor |
And yes, I'm not very good at teaching. |
| 13:56 |
zat |
looks like you want to look great next to a newbie |
| 13:56 |
Dan_D |
That is not helpful |
| 13:56 |
reactor |
zat: I don't. I'm fair, that's it. |
| 13:56 |
Dan_D |
Go round calling me lame, just because I am not allowed to do something |
| 13:56 |
reactor |
I'm lame at something, too. |
| 13:56 |
zat |
that is your opinion on being fair |
| 13:56 |
Dan_D |
Yeah, lameat life |
| 13:56 |
zat |
Dan_D: what is the issue? |
| 13:56 |
zat |
what do you want to accomplish? |
| 13:56 |
Dan_D |
I amnot sure |
| 13:57 |
zat |
describe it |
| 13:57 |
Dan_D |
reactor started talking about something |
| 13:57 |
Dan_D |
And I have no idea why or hat he wanted to accomplish |
| 13:57 |
reactor |
...said someone who doesn't know how to ask permission. |
| 13:57 |
reactor |
Well. Just go on using dropbox. |
| 13:57 |
zat |
I imagine it was about sharing files? |
| 13:57 |
Dan_D |
No idea |
| 13:57 |
reactor |
It was. |
| 13:58 |
zat |
and the argument was........? |
| 13:58 |
Dan_D |
He called melame |
| 13:58 |
zat |
reactor: and what was the issue? |
| 13:58 |
zat |
you seemed too inspired in calling him lame, reactor, it must have been something relevant |
| 13:58 |
zat |
at least! |
| 13:58 |
reactor |
I don't know. Him not knowing where to make files available. |
| 13:59 |
Dan_D |
BTW I have /ignore reactor, and can't see anything he says |
| 13:59 |
zat |
Dan_D: you have dropbox already? |
| 13:59 |
reactor |
AND being confusing. |
| 13:59 |
Dan_D |
Yes |
| 13:59 |
zat |
you know how to share files in there? |
| 13:59 |
reactor |
Dan_D: announcing ignores out loud usually means they're fake. |
| 13:59 |
Dan_D |
Well, I know how to upload and copy the link |
| 13:59 |
reactor |
Dan_D: why not do it then? |
| 14:00 |
zat |
Dan_D: then you can share your files the same way. |
| 14:00 |
Dan_D |
Yes |
| 14:00 |
zat |
so what was the argument all about? |
| 14:00 |
reactor |
But no, he will type a lot of bs. |
| 14:00 |
zat |
I really don’t get it... |
| 14:00 |
Dan_D |
I actually don't know |
| 14:00 |
Dan_D |
I don't get it wither |
| 14:00 |
reactor |
Me neither. |
| 14:00 |
Dan_D |
He randomly statred taalking about dropbox hosting |
| 14:00 |
Dan_D |
I don't know what context any of it was in |
| 14:01 |
Dan_D |
He just started talking to me |
| 14:01 |
reactor |
That is interesting. Please continue. |
| 14:01 |
Dan_D |
Then started insulting me |
| 14:01 |
Dan_D |
Probably a paedophile |
| 14:01 |
Dan_D |
Oh well |
| 14:02 |
reactor |
Do you know what a pedophile is? |
| 14:02 |
zat |
Maybe because you thought kaeza meant hosting a server in Dropbox. |
| 14:02 |
reactor |
Watch it. |
| 14:02 |
Dan_D |
Yes, I thought thatbecause reactor started talking about something or other servers |
| 14:02 |
Dan_D |
Then kaeza started on dropbox |
| 14:02 |
Dan_D |
And I really don't know why |
| 14:03 |
zat |
just a bit of confusion |
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markveidemanis |
Hi |
| 14:03 |
Dan_D |
Yes |
| 14:03 |
markveidemanis |
I just finished half life 2!!!! |
| 14:03 |
Dan_D |
What was he talking about? |
| 14:03 |
reactor |
mrakveidemanis: o/ |
| 14:03 |
Dan_D |
Something 'bout ftp servers |
| 14:03 |
markveidemanis |
Sadly i also downbloaded episodes one and two :P |
| 14:03 |
zat |
and once again reactor finds the time to insult others because he doesn’t approve their “computer literacy†level. |
| 14:03 |
Dan_D |
Probably |
| 14:04 |
Dan_D |
I have himignored though so I can't see his stupidity |
| 14:05 |
Dan_D |
Anyway, I only started using Linux a short while ago |
| 14:05 |
zat |
what distro? |
| 14:05 |
Dan_D |
Xubuntu |
| 14:05 |
Dan_D |
I already tried, briefly, Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Lubuntu but none worked for me really. |
| 14:05 |
zat |
worked what for? |
| 14:05 |
Dan_D |
But I like Xubuntu |
| 14:05 |
Dan_D |
The others were slow and crashy |
| 14:06 |
Dan_D |
This is fast and uncrashy |
| 14:06 |
zat |
Xubuntu is XFCE based right? |
| 14:06 |
Dan_D |
Yep |
| 14:06 |
zat |
Most issues actually have to do with their desktop environments. |
| 14:06 |
Dan_D |
Ok |
| 14:07 |
zat |
I can only imagine you are using rather old hardware. |
| 14:07 |
zat |
is it? |
| 14:07 |
Dan_D |
Netbook |
| 14:07 |
Dan_D |
32bit Netbook |
| 14:07 |
zat |
that is why |
| 14:07 |
Dan_D |
About 3 years old |
| 14:07 |
Dan_D |
Can't afford anything bigger |
| 14:07 |
zat |
depending on the netbook you can have issues with gnu/linux distros. |
| 14:07 |
Dan_D |
Yes |
| 14:07 |
Dan_D |
Ubuntu was the worst |
| 14:07 |
Dan_D |
Yay |
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Dan_D |
Gone |
| 14:08 |
zat |
Next to me, my girlfriend uses an all-in-one computer |
| 14:08 |
Dan_D |
A what? |
| 14:08 |
zat |
screen and computer all in one |
| 14:08 |
zat |
just a big screen |
| 14:08 |
Dan_D |
Never heard of them I don't think |
| 14:08 |
TheLastProject |
Oh, those pieces of junk |
| 14:08 |
zat |
it is based on an ATOM chipset so its specs are just like a netbook |
| 14:08 |
TheLastProject |
A computer has a KEYBOARD, and possibly a MOUSE |
| 14:08 |
TheLastProject |
If it does not, it's a TABLET |
| 14:09 |
Dan_D |
gtg |
| 14:09 |
zat |
TheLastProject: you plug a keyboard and a mouse to an allinone. |
| 14:09 |
TheLastProject |
I dread the day they redefine it so much I end up getting a device without physical keyboard |
| 14:09 |
TheLastProject |
How can people LIVE without a physical keyboard |
| 14:09 |
TheLastProject |
HOW WILL I USE VIM |
| 14:09 |
zat |
Not all people code... |
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zat |
They can live without a physical keyboard the same way an average cellphone user can browse the web with it. |
| 14:10 |
TheLastProject |
I can't browse the web with my phone |
| 14:10 |
TheLastProject |
Dammit, it's so inconvenient |
| 14:10 |
zat |
change the phone :) |
| 14:10 |
TheLastProject |
How can people use a browser without vim hotkey support? |
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JackGruff |
TheLastProject, it's really easy, man, just like, go, click click click |
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* TheLastProject |
twitches |
| 14:14 |
TheLastProject |
I want my input mode. I want to press "t" to enter "new tab" mode. "o" for "open" mode |
| 14:14 |
TheLastProject |
q.q |
| 14:15 |
zat |
Not the first time I see a “pro†complaining because not everything can be as complicated as they are used to |
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guard163 |
Hi all! I'm trying follow this tutorial http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Setting_up_a_server/Ubuntu. But apt cannot find repository http://ppa.launchpad.net/minetestdevs/stable/ubuntu/dists/wheezy/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found |
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guard163 |
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kaeza |
zat, what? how can pressing ESC C-a C-x C-w i-w-a-n-t-t-o-v-i-e-w-t-h-e-p-a-g-e SPC h-t-t-p ... be complicated? it's obviously simple! |
| 14:19 |
TheLastProject |
Hey, hey |
| 14:19 |
TheLastProject |
That's Emacs |
| 14:19 |
TheLastProject |
I'm a vim person |
| 14:19 |
TheLastProject |
Don't mix them up :| |
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kaeza |
aww my bad :| |
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guard163 |
so anybody can help me? |
| 14:21 |
zat |
:| |
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kaeza |
guard163, you could try compiling yourself; it's not that hard |
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FreeFull |
What kind of Emacs sequence starts with ESC? |
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Dan_D |
Is anyone here capable of doing the ore update to my realtest fork? |
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reactor |
Dan_D: because of you calling me a pedo, my ISP had disconnected me, and called me. |
| 14:45 |
reactor |
Dan_D: I had to explain I am not. They're sending people to check it. |
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sfan5 |
Deluge uploads plugins in 1.0KB parts (over local network), WTF |
| 14:47 |
reactor |
sfan5: do not use deluge. Eh. |
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sfan5 |
what should I use instead? |
| 14:47 |
reactor |
I don't know. |
| 14:47 |
reactor |
But if it's Deluge's problem, why not try something else? |
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sfan5 |
its pretty nice, but it annoys me that it does 1KB parts |
| 14:48 |
reactor |
Dan_D: I'm not kidding. My machines are gonna be ripped apart because of you. |
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sfan5 |
wait forget what I said.. |
| 14:51 |
Evergreen |
Dan_D, Don't throw around phrases like that. Only do so if you are sure of it |
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pitriss |
reactor: maybe we can call you also as bomb creator, then you can meet more interesting ppl:D |
| 14:51 |
Dan_D |
? |
| 14:52 |
reactor |
pitriss: :( |
| 14:52 |
Dan_D |
Evergreen,what phrase? |
| 14:52 |
Evergreen |
what reactor just said |
| 14:52 |
reactor |
pitriss: it's worse for pedos and people like that in prison. |
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Dan_D |
I have him blocked though, I unno what he just said |
| 14:53 |
reactor |
Wonderful day. The migraine, that jerk, and now the police. |
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markveidemanis |
I think its time to stop, half life 2 episode 1, halfway through level two :P |
| 14:53 |
Evergreen |
Dan_D, He has actual people coming over to rip apart his computer to see if he is a "pedo" |
| 14:53 |
markveidemanis |
Is there a normal game, no action, just go to work, stuff |
| 14:53 |
Dan_D |
Ok |
| 14:53 |
Evergreen |
thanks to you |
| 14:53 |
Evergreen |
that's what I mean |
| 14:54 |
reactor |
I hope they just dump my filesystems and go away. |
| 14:54 |
Dan_D |
Never meant it like that y'know |
| 14:54 |
pitriss |
reactor: use tor or something like that to protect your privacy |
| 14:54 |
Evergreen |
The government takes things like that seriously |
| 14:54 |
reactor |
pitriss: I would have used if I'd known for advance he would call me that. |
| 14:54 |
Dan_D |
And I wouldn't take his word for it |
| 14:54 |
Dan_D |
What country is he in? |
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sfan5 |
good thing my irc connection is encrypted |
| 14:55 |
reactor |
Russia. |
| 14:55 |
sfan5 |
uh-oh |
| 14:55 |
reactor |
Rotten place. |
| 14:55 |
Evergreen |
That's why you should be careful what you say about other people |
| 14:55 |
Evergreen |
He lives in russia he says |
| 14:55 |
Evergreen |
huh boy |
| 14:55 |
reactor |
Shit, shouldn't have said that. They'd probably cling on that, too. |
| 14:55 |
Dan_D |
Mhm. |
| 14:55 |
sfan5 |
heh |
| 14:55 |
reactor |
s/d/ll/ |
| 14:55 |
reactor |
s/ll/d/ |
| 14:56 |
reactor |
s/'d/'ll/ |
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sfan5 |
reactor: use encrypted connections |
| 14:56 |
Evergreen |
I gotta go |
| 14:56 |
pitriss |
sfan5: +1 |
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sfan5 |
if possible use tor, even the nsa hates Tor |
| 14:56 |
reactor |
sfan5: thank you. Let me fire up my time machine. |
| 14:58 |
pitriss |
BTW guys is there posibility to store some kind of custom metadata for players? I want to write some multispawn mod and I need to store last used spawn for each player.. |
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kaeza |
pitriss, nope, you have to take care of that yourself :/ |
| 14:58 |
sfan5 |
I think we need an sqlite3 api available to mods |
| 14:58 |
sfan5 |
since sqlite3 is in minetest anyway.. |
| 14:59 |
sfan5 |
would make storing things much easier |
| 14:59 |
pitriss |
kaeza: ok, thank you anyway.. |
| 14:59 |
pitriss |
sfan5: yeah it will be good. |
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VanessaE |
hi all |
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reactor |
o/ VanessaE. |
| 15:00 |
reactor |
They'd probably pardon me if Dan_D had taken his words back. |
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reactor |
And not tear my stuff down, and, more importantly, not touch me. |
| 15:02 |
Dan_D |
VanessaE, would you add army to your server? |
| 15:02 |
Dan_D |
TO replace the removed tbm mod? |
| 15:02 |
Dan_D |
And also, VanessaE, you know the idea of realtest server? What about a creative one of that game, which no oregen, which is the thing that slowed it down? |
| 15:03 |
VanessaE |
no, no, no and no. |
| 15:03 |
Dan_D |
Ok |
| 15:03 |
Dan_D |
Why not the creative realtest? |
| 15:03 |
VanessaE |
and I did not remove TBM out of hate - I removed it because you forked and can't fix. |
| 15:03 |
Dan_D |
Ok |
| 15:03 |
Dan_D |
I thought it was anti-me hate |
| 15:03 |
Dan_D |
Damn |
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reactor |
Shit. They're knocking. |
| 15:04 |
Dan_D |
Why not the creative though? |
| 15:04 |
reactor |
Should I just sit there? |
| 15:04 |
VanessaE |
because realtest jut plain sucks, dan |
| 15:04 |
Dan_D |
Also, can you rollback every action over the past 24 hours by me, on your survival server? |
| 15:04 |
Dan_D |
And what is sucky? |
| 15:04 |
VanessaE |
I'd advise you answer the door, lest you also want to pay for a new door too |
| 15:05 |
Dan_D |
? |
| 15:05 |
Dan_D |
I queried you btw |
| 15:05 |
VanessaE |
it sucks because it doesn't fucking work, that's why |
| 15:05 |
Dan_D |
It does fucking work |
| 15:05 |
VanessaE |
WHAT THE FUCK!? |
| 15:05 |
Dan_D |
Just remove oregen and it works just fine |
| 15:06 |
Dan_D |
Can you rollback past 24 hours? |
| 15:06 |
Dan_D |
By me? |
| 15:06 |
markveidemanis |
check out http://f.marktest.co.uk -- its sfan5's Simple Upload Service, i also made an article: http://marktest.co.uk/?p=495 |
| 15:06 |
reactor |
Anyone? What should I do? |
| 15:06 |
Dan_D |
I thought you were hating me |
| 15:06 |
reactor |
They're not going away! |
| 15:06 |
Dan_D |
SO I did the grief D: |
| 15:06 |
VanessaE |
done. |
| 15:06 |
reactor |
They know I'm here, I don't want to open the door, because they WILL kill my stuff. |
| 15:07 |
Dan_D |
Past 24 hours? |
| 15:07 |
Dan_D |
Thanks |
| 15:07 |
Dan_D |
'cause I rlly rlly am sorry, I thought you hated me,that's what Rhys said. |
| 15:07 |
VanessaE |
if I were a different person, dan, this would have been grounds for ban + discontinuation of your nostalgia server. |
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sfan5 |
reactor: drinking tea helps.. |
| 15:07 |
Dan_D |
Yep |
| 15:08 |
Dan_D |
But you are you, a wonderful forgiving understanding person, an asset to thecommunity. |
| 15:08 |
reactor |
sfan5: I've already had 2L of it. |
| 15:08 |
VanessaE |
you're lucky rollback works as well as it does. |
| 15:08 |
Dan_D |
Yep |
| 15:09 |
Dan_D |
And what is it that 'doesn't fucking work' about realtest? |
| 15:09 |
Dan_D |
As I said, it works fine ifyou don'tegenerate ores, becuse they still use the old api |
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VanessaE |
Dan_D: I launch ..... |
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VanessaE |
G*D DAMN HE IS IMPATIENT! |
| 15:10 |
reactor |
sfan5: or serving tea to a squad that was going to stomp my guts out? |
| 15:10 |
sfan5 |
problem solving skills of Atmel engenieers: http://i.imgur.com/AJj9fQ0.png |
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sfan5 |
reactor: yes |
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reactor |
sfan5: that'd be too humiliating. |
| 15:11 |
reactor |
I can't be sorry for what I haven't done. |
| 15:11 |
reactor |
sfan5: xD |
| 15:12 |
reactor |
Shit. They're still not going away. They're shouting something. |
| 15:12 |
sfan5 |
"If it doesn't work, don't do it" |
| 15:12 |
reactor |
The nighbours might have joined them. |
| 15:12 |
reactor |
s/nig/neig/ |
| 15:12 |
reactor |
s/might/must/ |
| 15:13 |
reactor |
Yes I hear the neighbours, as well. I'd always known they hated me, and wanted to see me getting in such situation. |
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markveidemanis |
sfan5: how's the privacy settings coming along? |
| 15:14 |
sfan5 |
markveidemanis: still haven't found the bug |
| 15:14 |
markveidemanis |
ok |
| 15:14 |
markveidemanis |
Know any cool sites for python scripts? |
| 15:14 |
markveidemanis |
I keep googleing |
| 15:14 |
markveidemanis |
*googling? |
| 15:14 |
sfan5 |
who do you need python scripts? |
| 15:14 |
markveidemanis |
I need functional interfaces, irc, etcx |
| 15:14 |
sfan5 |
why* |
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markveidemanis |
To review on my website |
| 15:15 |
markveidemanis |
And to test and learn |
| 15:16 |
markveidemanis |
Or in fact anything, web apps, games... |
| 15:17 |
sfan5 |
well.. learn python |
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TheLastProject |
markveidemanis: If you want to review Python stuff, I have an IRC bot written in Python, but it's not really a script, it's around 4000 lines of code by now :P |
| 15:17 |
TheLastProject |
And it's still in development |
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markveidemanis |
Ok, sure |
| 15:17 |
markveidemanis |
can you use my upload site? |
| 15:17 |
markveidemanis |
pastie has a limit |
| 15:17 |
markveidemanis |
f.marktest.co.uk |
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ruskie |
markveidemanis, wouldn't supybot work well unough for irc etc...? |
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TheLastProject |
I figured the repository would work well: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/triggerbot.git/tree/ :x |
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TheLastProject |
Unless you have some special reason to use that upload site but I can't think of anything and then I need to be careful to not leak development databases :P |
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sfan5 |
goddamnit my torrent is going at 10KB/s again.. |
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pitriss |
please did someone invented some quick way how to get distance of player from some spot on map? I don't want to re-invent a wheel:) |
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kaeza |
huh? |
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sfan5 |
pitriss: vector.distance |
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kaeza |
pitriss, pythagoras' theorem, or use vector.distance(p1, p2) |
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pitriss |
so vector.distance(coords1, coords2).. I guess coords are tables:) Thank you guys:) |
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pitriss |
and sorry for my noobish questions..:) |
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sfan5 |
tables like {x=1, y=0, z=7} |
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pitriss |
ok.. ty |
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sfan5 |
data |
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sfan5 |
opps |
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sfan5 |
oops* |
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kaeza |
opps gangnam style! |
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Evergreen |
Poor reactor, I hope nothing too bad happens to him |
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nore |
sfan5, where was your code that deleted a block in the map? |
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sfan5 |
well... |
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sfan5 |
you do DELETE * FROM blocks WHERE pos=<blockpos> |
| 16:07 |
nore |
you had a python code, hadn't you? |
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sfan5 |
blockpos can be got like this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/util/minetestmapper.py#L88 |
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sfan5 |
it is a 2 minute thing to write code that opens a database and does that |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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reactor |
Hello PlizAdam. |
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VanessaE |
hi adam |
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PilzAdam |
I got a response from CraigyDavi about the player model crash |
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PilzAdam |
apparently the "model" paramater passed to player_update_visuals() is nil |
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PilzAdam |
I think it might happen when a player joins and player_step() runs before player_update_visuals() |
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VanessaE |
ah |
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VanessaE |
stu'd wield3d model has a similar problem, but it avoids the crashes with some extra sanity checks I guess, plus after() (which still doesn't work quite right) |
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VanessaE |
stu's* |
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VanessaE |
he has shit appearing in the world that should be attached to the player, but the player ain' |
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VanessaE |
ain't actually *there* yet when they join |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all |
| 17:16 |
rubenwardy |
Just downloading HL2 EP1! |
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rubenwardy |
and synenergy |
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reactor |
rubenwardy: "synergy" is a mod that allows co-op play, isn't it? |
| 17:17 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
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rubenwardy |
Will be done in a day :P |
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reactor |
Mk. |
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kaeza |
explanation? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7574 |
| 17:31 |
kaeza |
I think he means that stereothingy thing |
| 17:31 |
reactor |
So, they seized my archive disks. |
| 17:36 |
rubenwardy |
see my responce |
| 17:36 |
rubenwardy |
*se |
| 17:37 |
reactor |
s/rubenwardy/I-don't-know-how-to-type/ |
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Jordach |
reactor, dafuq |
| 17:39 |
reactor |
Uh? |
| 17:39 |
Jordach |
<reactor> So, they seized my archive disks. |
| 17:40 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, that report is legit -- he is asking for a build |
| 17:40 |
Jordach |
i think you meant the one above |
| 17:40 |
PilzAdam |
what? |
| 17:41 |
Jordach |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=116281#p116281 |
| 17:41 |
reactor |
Jordach: long story... a dude called me a pedo. My ISP disconnected me and told me I was gonna face the police. They came over and seized most disks. Thank god they didn't rip my machines apart. |
| 17:41 |
reactor |
It happened here. |
| 17:41 |
rubenwardy |
paedo |
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rubenwardy |
paedo is latin for child! |
| 17:42 |
reactor |
rubenwardy: the hell I would know. |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach, the one from mark.rojberg? |
| 17:42 |
Jordach |
yes |
| 17:42 |
Jordach |
you missed the report button by one post :P |
| 17:42 |
* Jordach |
is going to the dangerzone |
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PilzAdam |
I dont understand you |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam, im updating my unstable build |
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kaeza |
rubenwardy, s/false/true/ |
| 17:44 |
rubenwardy |
heh? |
| 17:45 |
kaeza |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=116306#p116306 |
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rubenwardy |
donw |
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rubenwardy |
done |
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VanessaE |
Sokomine: *poke* |
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Jordach |
reactor, GPG Key the *new* disks and destroy (i mean gutmann pass (35 writes) over the private key to unlock) |
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rubenwardy |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=116310#p116310 ??? |
| 17:51 |
reactor |
Jordach: uh? |
| 17:56 |
reactor |
Jordach: there's no guarantee they're returning the disks intact when they're done scanning them for the alleged "child porn". |
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Megaf |
folks, few days ago I reported here and asked about the unban bug, that makes the server crash |
| 17:57 |
Megaf |
then you said me to update |
| 17:58 |
Megaf |
Im getting the minetest source code from github |
| 17:58 |
Megaf |
the stable-0.4 branch |
| 17:58 |
Megaf |
isnt that the latest? |
| 17:58 |
PilzAdam |
its the latest stable, i.e. 0.4.7 |
| 17:58 |
PilzAdam |
so its not "updating" if you were using 0.4.7 before |
| 17:58 |
Megaf |
ok, so the ubnan still broken in the stable |
| 17:59 |
PilzAdam |
use the master branch, thats the latest dev version, where the /unban typo was fixed |
| 18:00 |
Megaf |
PilzAdam, just one more question, cant I just fix that typo myself? |
| 18:00 |
PilzAdam |
apply that patch: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/44053101840594e133886986d28e557bdfb57e8b |
| 18:01 |
PilzAdam |
that would be the best solution if you prefer the stable release |
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Inocudom |
Does anybody hear know about RealBadAngel's topic about him wanting people to test his new shaders? |
| 18:04 |
Megaf |
not me |
| 18:04 |
PilzAdam |
I wonder why he created a new repo for that |
| 18:04 |
PilzAdam |
it makes it hard for everone to get the patch properly with git |
| 18:10 |
Megaf |
ok, im building a new server |
| 18:10 |
Inocudom |
His sun/moon retexture patch was not merged yet, perhaps for the same reason? |
| 18:11 |
Inocudom |
It looks like somebody will have to make a Windows build of his fork if any testing is to be done. |
| 18:13 |
reactor |
Windows. |
| 18:13 |
reactor |
:( |
| 18:13 |
Inocudom |
It is the only way, because proller will not. I repeat, WILL NOT merge RealBadAngel's fork into his. |
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markveidemanis |
Hi |
| 18:15 |
reactor |
Hi mrakveidemanis. |
| 18:15 |
Inocudom |
Hello. Do you know about RealBadAngel's shaders branch? |
| 18:15 |
reactor |
Do you know Dan_D, markveidemanis? |
| 18:16 |
Inocudom |
Dan_D is a diligent modder for this community, worthy of utmost respect. |
| 18:16 |
reactor |
Guess what. The police came over and seized my archives because of him calling me a pedo. |
| 18:16 |
PilzAdam |
thx for the info troll |
| 18:17 |
Inocudom |
RealBadAngel and his efforts are also worthy of utmost respect. Same with VanessaE. |
| 18:17 |
markveidemanis |
I think so |
| 18:17 |
kaeza |
no respect for me :( |
| 18:18 |
Inocudom |
You should combine your wiki mod with your computers mod, kaeza. |
| 18:18 |
kaeza |
too lazy :P |
| 18:18 |
kaeza |
(I knew you would say that :P) |
| 18:19 |
Megaf |
folks, can you give my test server a try? Just to see if you can join and build and stuff |
| 18:20 |
Inocudom |
You might as well give those computers a purpose. The look of the wiki could depend on the computer. They could have sounds too. |
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Inocudom |
You need to post in a forum the adress and port of the server. |
| 18:21 |
Megaf |
why? We have IRC |
| 18:22 |
kaeza |
so... what is the IP then? |
| 18:22 |
Megaf |
its megaf.no-ip.info port 30002 |
| 18:22 |
Megaf |
im not online at the moment, im at my work now, cant play here... |
| 18:22 |
kaeza |
!up megaf.no-ip.info 30002 |
| 18:22 |
MinetestBot |
megaf.no-ip.info:30002 is up (439ms) |
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kaeza |
looks like it works |
| 18:24 |
kaeza |
a bit laggy though |
| 18:26 |
PilzAdam |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7574 TIL: forum is a realtime chat |
| 18:26 |
rubenwardy |
huh? |
| 18:28 |
* Jordach |
grumps that merging posts isn't possible |
| 18:32 |
* Jordach |
is pretty grumpy with RBA |
| 18:32 |
Jordach |
yellow doesnt tint well |
| 18:39 |
Megaf |
16:35:18: ERROR[ServerThread]: Serverlist at url servers.minetest.net error (Timeout was reached) |
| 18:43 |
VanessaE |
I get that from time to time also |
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* Jordach |
is busy working on a different mod - it allows full player customisation, like Saints Row / GTA |
| 18:58 |
Jordach |
all without relying on premade skins which need server restarts |
| 19:00 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, is it possible for this to work: texture = t1.png^t2.png^t3.png and so on |
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Jordach |
because i know a way of doing so with a technical hack |
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Jordach |
hack = texture1.png^texture2.png (some definition here) texture = texture3.png^hack |
| 19:06 |
Jordach |
bitch please, you can do it as a one liner |
| 19:08 |
Inocudom |
What is it that you mean by full player customization? Different hair, different clothes? If that is the case, I think it would be easier if clothes were on a layer suspended above the skin just like hair is. |
| 19:09 |
Inocudom |
This would make it easier to create things like dresses (much easier.) Plus, it would look more realistic and allow for changing skin color independent of clothes. |
| 19:09 |
kaeza |
:| |
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Jordach |
Inocudom, http://i.imgur.com/MQ6G4Pt.png |
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Jordach |
that's what i mean, a bunch of variables assigned to each player (loaded on join) which then creates a player texture (which happens to be the skin colour that player chose) and are overlaid without a need for any layers |
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Jordach |
as you can see, my idea should (in theory) work |
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kaeza |
Jordach, it does |
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Jordach |
sfan5, replace !proc message with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEtm_Q2LK9g |
| 19:14 |
Jordach |
kaeza, thank fuck - that hacky idea is hacky :D |
| 19:14 |
Inocudom |
So, that is how it works. I just thought that having another layer for clothes on the player model would make clothes look more like clothes. |
| 19:15 |
kaeza |
Jordach, I already made something like that, if you want, I can share the code |
| 19:15 |
Jordach |
kaeza, maybe |
| 19:15 |
kaeza |
(I did not publish it yet) |
| 19:15 |
Jordach |
some people might want to do it themselves |
| 19:15 |
Inocudom |
Like the hair is an extra layer. |
| 19:15 |
Jordach |
Inocudom, people like it as is, why make the model heavier and (slower(?)) |
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Inocudom |
As an extra type of model for those that want it then? |
| 19:17 |
Inocudom |
There are a few modelers that could do something like that. |
| 19:17 |
Jordach |
Inocudom, doubt it, even though i could do it PilzAdam will probably complain as the usual case |
| 19:17 |
Jordach |
(as with the capes, he didn't bother) |
| 19:17 |
Inocudom |
This could leave default for those that want it. |
| 19:18 |
Inocudom |
Yes, capes would be an example of such a layer, except all around and on the limbs too. It would help if entities didn't cause such enormous lag. |
| 19:20 |
Inocudom |
Yes, and I fear that he will complain about RealBadAngels shaders. You know that old saying that says people prefer normality over paradise. |
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Jordach |
OH SHIT |
| 19:22 |
Jordach |
i might have realised the scope of the things my mod needs to do (expansions can be done afaik) |
| 19:22 |
markveidemanis |
I want to do a review of something |
| 19:22 |
Jordach |
RUN! |
| 19:22 |
TheLastProject |
markveidemanis: Are you done yet or couldn't you get it to run/understand it? :P |
| 19:22 |
markveidemanis |
... |
| 19:23 |
markveidemanis |
I err... |
| 19:23 |
Megaf |
VanessaE, 156 mods in your server, wow |
| 19:23 |
markveidemanis |
Too complex :P |
| 19:23 |
TheLastProject |
Haha, don't worry |
| 19:23 |
TheLastProject |
Heh, fair enough |
| 19:23 |
Megaf |
I have 9 mods on my test server |
| 19:23 |
markveidemanis |
I get confused... |
| 19:23 |
Inocudom |
Do a review of the lulzpack mod (BlockForge.) |
| 19:23 |
markveidemanis |
i got 15 mods... |
| 19:24 |
markveidemanis |
Yeah you do |
| 19:24 |
markveidemanis |
OC's are up |
| 19:24 |
markveidemanis |
afaik |
| 19:24 |
markveidemanis |
30015. was it? |
| 19:25 |
markveidemanis |
yop |
| 19:25 |
markveidemanis |
He cant update mine atm so i cant play (refuse to play) |
| 19:25 |
markveidemanis |
Its no fun without creative... |
| 19:25 |
markveidemanis |
On a survival server... |
| 19:25 |
markveidemanis |
POWER!!! |
| 19:28 |
Megaf |
I wish I could change the maximum number of players on the fly |
| 19:28 |
Megaf |
my server is totally full, so Id like to increase the number of allowed players... |
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ShadowNinja |
Megaf: If it's full then any new players are going to get a very lag server and make everything worke for everyone else. Set the max to the maximum amount ou can handle without too much lag. |
| 19:32 |
ShadowNinja |
+y X2 |
| 19:33 |
Megaf |
my server is know for not having much lag |
| 19:34 |
Megaf |
however, I could have a better internet link |
| 19:36 |
VanessaE |
my servers lag and have some fps issues, but they work well enough if people would just get latest git :) |
| 19:37 |
Megaf |
I try to keep my server clean and optimized |
| 19:37 |
Megaf |
even the linux kernel I compiled with minetest in mind |
| 19:39 |
Inocudom |
Sfan5 made a build of RealBadAngel's shaders fork. People should test it and give feedback, but first the commands to turn on the shaders must be known. |
| 19:44 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, AFAIK you can overlay as many images as you want, but Im not sure |
| 19:55 |
kaeza |
well, homedecor signs are able to display up to 144 characters (24x6), each character being a different texture |
| 19:56 |
PilzAdam |
they use [combine, though |
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Evergreen |
Hey everyone |
| 19:58 |
VanessaE |
hi |
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Evergreen |
Hey Calinou |
| 20:00 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 20:01 |
VanessaE |
hi |
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Peacock |
"The Euro-flush: European Union to standardize toilets’ flush" you know you're in trouble when they start regulating your daily constitutionals lol |
| 20:15 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 20:15 |
VanessaE |
probably standardize the water usage and so |
| 20:15 |
VanessaE |
as for regularity...well that's what Metamucil is for :P |
| 20:17 |
Evergreen |
Wuzzy is kind of like the wiki's ambassador, It's nice to have someone regularly updating the wiki |
| 20:17 |
PilzAdam |
true that |
| 20:17 |
Peacock |
i dont think they do that in Cdn., the last 4 apartmens had radically different thrones lol |
| 20:18 |
Sokomine |
peacock: the general joke is more that it's regulated how much bananas are to be bended.... |
| 20:18 |
Peacock |
bended? lol |
| 20:18 |
Calinou |
bent |
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VanessaE |
Sokomine: you have a pull request waiting :) |
| 20:18 |
Sokomine |
moment please :-) |
| 20:18 |
Peacock |
yeah but what does it mean bananas bended/bent |
| 20:19 |
Sokomine |
a banana is usally more or less bent, isn't it? |
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| 20:20 |
Sokomine |
there's a regulation on how much it's allowed to be bent in order to be sold as a banana |
| 20:20 |
Peacock |
you're not serious? lol |
| 20:20 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: I think she means regulating exactly how much curve the banana shall have, as if that's somehow possible to influence anyway : |
| 20:20 |
Sokomine |
at least that's the joke. and it's perfectly possible that there's actually such a regulation |
| 20:20 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 20:20 |
Sokomine |
ah. yes. curve describes it better |
| 20:20 |
PilzAdam |
we had that for cucumbers |
| 20:20 |
PilzAdam |
they have removed that regulation, though |
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Peacock |
wow lol and i thought my gov't had alot of stupid regulations (like inter-provincial liquor sales) |
| 20:21 |
Sokomine |
no, guess you can't beat germany/the eu on regulations |
| 20:21 |
Peacock |
my father use to take me on liquor runs across the border in Ontario, i never understood why we needed so many blankets until i learned it was illegal lol |
| 20:22 |
Peacock |
well i think eu regulations is Brussels not Germany? |
| 20:22 |
PilzAdam |
also the EU advieses to eat pizza margharita hot |
| 20:22 |
PilzAdam |
-e |
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* Sokomine |
takes pilzadams pizza for inspection |
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Peacock |
good lord lol |
| 20:25 |
Sokomine |
liquor...hm. we used to have something called "butterfahrt". busses carried people to the sea where they travelled on a large ship for a few hours (usually ferries to danmark or something) and could shop with less taxes |
| 20:25 |
Peacock |
i wish Cdn. had better labour regulations, but when it comes to food, if/when i ran a restaurant, id like to run it my way and not be forced to offer the same thing as all the other guys lol |
| 20:25 |
Sokomine |
hm, you can offer your own food. there are just lots of regulations about it |
| 20:25 |
Peacock |
you know what butterfahrt sounds like in english right? :P |
| 20:26 |
Sokomine |
no, not really. what does it sound like? |
| 20:26 |
Peacock |
well in our case the Cornwall, Ont., was just an hour away from Montreal |
| 20:26 |
PilzAdam |
my dictionary says "shopping excursion (by boat) to buy cheap/duty-free goods |
| 20:26 |
PilzAdam |
+" |
| 20:26 |
TheLastProject |
Peacock: I misread it as an English word first as well |
| 20:26 |
Peacock |
butterfahrt sounds like, pardon the language, farting in butter lol |
| 20:26 |
TheLastProject |
Was like "what the hell is wrong with this guy" for a bit |
| 20:26 |
Sokomine |
butter is the milk product you put on bread (not that it was worth buying that on the ships...at least not when i was a child. probably a few decades earlier). and fahrt is...probably ride/journey |
| 20:27 |
Sokomine |
or trip |
| 20:27 |
Peacock |
so "butterfahrt" is like a trip to the grocery store |
| 20:27 |
Sokomine |
:-) |
| 20:28 |
Sokomine |
ok, pilzadam provided a better translation. mine was mostly literal |
| 20:28 |
Peacock |
well english is a little more awkward, they call it "going to the grocery store" lol in french we say "faire nos commissions" |
| 20:28 |
Peacock |
or "faire ma commande" |
| 20:28 |
Sokomine |
more like a one-day lasting journey, involving a ride on a ship |
| 20:29 |
Peacock |
must have to buy a lot of booze to make it worthwhile |
| 20:29 |
PilzAdam |
Sokomine, actually thats from /usr/share/trans/de-en |
| 20:29 |
Sokomine |
strange that it's in there :-) |
| 20:29 |
PilzAdam |
D: "Minetest" isnt |
| 20:30 |
Sokomine |
i don't think those trips are offered anymore. even when i was on one such trip as a child it was hardly worth it. probably for those people buying liquor and cigarettes...i wasn't intrested in that |
| 20:30 |
Peacock |
i tried that on google translate when you asked for a new name to pilzcraft, google gave me Minetest -> minetest (english to german) lol |
| 20:30 |
Sokomine |
pilzadam: file a bug report :) |
| 20:30 |
Sokomine |
those trips where extremly cheap |
| 20:31 |
Peacock |
well when gas prices went up in the 90's it got cheaper to buy liquor in-province |
| 20:32 |
Peacock |
and with CETA it should get even cheaper now |
| 20:32 |
Peacock |
(Canada/EU trade deal) |
| 20:32 |
Peacock |
hopefully we'll get some real imported beer instead of the fake stuff they make here and label imported |
| 20:32 |
Sokomine |
beer...that's what we've got lots of |
| 20:33 |
PilzAdam |
I recommend Beck's export beer |
| 20:33 |
Peacock |
we have Beck, but like i said, its not the same recipe as what my sister had on her trip |
| 20:34 |
PilzAdam |
ohai john_minetest |
| 20:34 |
Peacock |
Anglo-Canadian/American beer tastes like pisswater, though Quebec microbrew is usually pretty good |
| 20:35 |
Peacock |
i had a nice collection of glasses from my fav. microbrew until the wife got her hands on em lol |
| 20:36 |
Sokomine |
can't say much on that. when i drink beer, it's usually in the form of radler (half beer, half soft drink). very refreshing on hot days |
| 20:36 |
Peacock |
soft drink and beer? seems odd to me, though my wife did that when she first met me (hated beer lol) |
| 20:36 |
Sokomine |
hm, lemonade? |
| 20:36 |
Peacock |
oh juice |
| 20:36 |
PilzAdam |
Sokomine, "radler"? are you from the south? |
| 20:36 |
Peacock |
i thought you meant soft drink as in fizzy |
| 20:37 |
Peacock |
coke and beer, or sprite and beer lol |
| 20:37 |
Sokomine |
no, but my father is. it would be alsterwasser here |
| 20:37 |
Sokomine |
not really sprite or coke but something in that direction... |
| 20:37 |
PilzAdam |
if you order an "alster" in the south you get it with fanta instead of sprite |
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Peacock |
fanta = coca cola |
| 20:38 |
dante123 |
!up minetest.info.tm |
| 20:39 |
PilzAdam |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radler |
| 20:39 |
MinetestBot |
minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down |
| 20:39 |
Peacock |
english: cola, soda, pop |
| 20:40 |
Peacock |
french: liqueur, |
| 20:40 |
Peacock |
though in french liqueur also doubles as alcohol liqueur (the syrupy stuff) |
| 20:40 |
Peacock |
creme de menthe, etc. |
| 20:41 |
PilzAdam |
OMFG!!! |
| 20:41 |
PilzAdam |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Beer |
| 20:41 |
PilzAdam |
wikipedia has a BEER PORTAL! |
| 20:42 |
Peacock |
lol nice |
| 20:42 |
markveidemanis |
walk into the portal... good portal |
| 20:43 |
Peacock |
vanessae you'll like this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Wine |
| 20:43 |
Sokomine |
oh, hm. that's what wikipedia says on the lemonade used: German-style lemonade (not American-style lemonade, but sparkling lemon soda, similar but not identical to Sprite or 7 Up |
| 20:43 |
Sokomine |
and yes...it's diffrent from cola or fanta. very diffrent |
| 20:43 |
Peacock |
well we have both the fizzy and unfizzy lemonade, though they dont taste much the same |
| 20:43 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 20:44 |
Peacock |
Oooo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Coffee |
| 20:44 |
Sokomine |
:-) |
| 20:44 |
PilzAdam |
Sokomine, dont they just use sprite? |
| 20:45 |
Sokomine |
don't think so. it's usually some pretty normal citrus lemonade |
| 20:45 |
Jordach |
oh god, is PilzAdam being social |
| 20:45 |
Sokomine |
perhaps they do in some restaurants |
| 20:45 |
Peacock |
well if understand my histories, fanta was a subsidiary create by coca cola in the 30s, they i dont know if they're still a subsidiary now |
| 20:45 |
Sokomine |
like currywurst or other items...in some regions you never know what you'll get exactly |
| 20:45 |
Calinou |
they still are part of the coca cola company |
| 20:45 |
Peacock |
jordach were talking about beer lol |
| 20:45 |
* Jordach |
challenges everyone to the Vindaloo challenge |
| 20:45 |
Calinou |
beer sucks |
| 20:46 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, hide! |
| 20:46 |
Calinou |
Vindaloo? |
| 20:46 |
Calinou |
that's a known name :o |
| 20:46 |
Jordach |
Calinou, eat a full vindaloo and enjoy the next day |
| 20:46 |
Jordach |
>:D |
| 20:46 |
VanessaE |
mmm vindaloo |
| 20:46 |
Peacock |
vindaloo = english takeout? |
| 20:46 |
Jordach |
<- has survived |
| 20:46 |
Calinou |
what's that? |
| 20:46 |
Jordach |
Calinou, insanely hot curry |
| 20:46 |
Sokomine |
what's a vindaloo? |
| 20:46 |
Peacock |
calinou what about wine? |
| 20:46 |
VanessaE |
it's an indian dish made with chicken or pork, but it isn't always hoty |
| 20:46 |
VanessaE |
-y |
| 20:46 |
Sokomine |
ah |
| 20:46 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, it's always hot here |
| 20:47 |
Jordach |
we brits love the heat |
| 20:47 |
Jordach |
</fact> |
| 20:47 |
Peacock |
last time i ate idian i had a reaction from the ghee lol |
| 20:47 |
Calinou |
alcohol sucks |
| 20:47 |
Calinou |
the end |
| 20:47 |
Jordach |
tell that to my JD bottle |
| 20:47 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: I used to have Indian neighbors, they made some of it once, shared a bowl with me. good stuff |
| 20:47 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, it's lethal over here :P |
| 20:47 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 20:47 |
Sokomine |
hm, yes, indian. i'm considering to try that out once. we mostly have greek, italian, chinese here |
| 20:48 |
Peacock |
alcohol rules: political debate drinking games are fun, pick a keyword politician like to use and be wasted within an hour lol |
| 20:48 |
Jordach |
i've spent many an hour paying for it in the bathroom |
| 20:48 |
Calinou |
lol, I never eat such stuff |
| 20:48 |
Jordach |
i should stop with the spices |
| 20:48 |
Jordach |
although im no longer full of shit :> |
| 20:49 |
Peacock |
jordach on indian food: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JflBDN_98os :P |
| 20:49 |
Jordach |
oh |
| 20:49 |
Jordach |
i thought it was that spicy insanity i dropped in my pot noodle |
| 20:50 |
Sokomine |
peacock: er...just enjoy your drink and have a nice meal with it. no drinking games |
| 20:50 |
Jordach |
http://imgur.com/gallery/gIzmbBf |
| 20:50 |
Jordach |
PLOL |
| 20:51 |
Peacock |
meal usually comes after :P in the cold of winter i dont get terribly hungry otherwise |
| 20:52 |
Peacock |
seriously lol i've lost 10lbs since fall came lol |
| 20:53 |
PilzAdam |
"lbs" |
| 20:53 |
Peacock |
pounds |
| 20:53 |
* Jordach |
tests latest shaders |
| 20:53 |
Calinou |
kg ftw |
| 20:53 |
Jordach |
and let's see the performance DROP THE BAS |
| 20:53 |
Jordach |
BASS* |
| 20:53 |
Peacock |
not crazy about measuring people in kg's and meters lol |
| 20:54 |
Jordach |
<- 92.6 KG |
| 20:54 |
dante123 |
when i run !up it says server down, but i think it is accessible using minetest.info.tm (but not sure if doing it from my own network works, but not for others). Can someone try getting into my server using minetest.info.tm please? |
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| 20:54 |
Jordach |
(my younger brother weighs 10kg more) |
| 20:54 |
PilzAdam |
Peacock, just use SI and everyone is fine |
| 20:55 |
dante123 |
and is there a way to make blocks unmovable/destroyable by other users? |
| 20:55 |
Inocudom |
Sokomine, are you aware of this? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=116246#p116246 |
| 20:55 |
PilzAdam |
if !up says its down then its not reachable by others |
| 20:55 |
PilzAdam |
^ dante123 |
| 20:55 |
Sokomine |
question: how can merge conflicts with git be solved? solving them manually is no problem - but how do i convince git that i did solve it and that what's in my local repro now is what i wish to have? |
| 20:56 |
Peacock |
have no idea what SI is lol |
| 20:56 |
VanessaE |
SI == inches |
| 20:56 |
PilzAdam |
Sokomine, git add the files |
| 20:56 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, ummm.... no? |
| 20:56 |
dante123 |
PilzAdam so i might be able to reach it on my own local network using minetest.info.tm but others wouldnt be able to? |
| 20:56 |
Inocudom |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=116246#p116246 This topic was made by RealBadAngel today. |
| 20:57 |
Sokomine |
inocudom: yes, i read the posting but am a bit reluctant as far as shaders go. they where too much for my old hardware. now they seem to work and i've activated them since a couple of days ago. everything...seems slightly more blurry than before. i'm not certain which effect i like more |
| 20:57 |
Sokomine |
(my gpu is that one which is inside a celeron G1620) |
| 20:58 |
PilzAdam |
Inocudom, its funny how RBA posts something, makes the code very hard to get and then doesnt explain how to use it / attaches wrong images to it |
| 20:58 |
Sokomine |
pilzadam: just git add is enough? sounds well |
| 20:58 |
VanessaE |
oh, though it was. |
| 20:58 |
VanessaE |
wtf do I know :) |
| 20:58 |
Inocudom |
How did you activate parallax mapping? What is the command? |
| 20:58 |
PilzAdam |
Sokomine, when did the conflicts happen? |
| 20:58 |
PilzAdam |
during merge or reabse? |
| 20:58 |
Sokomine |
merged a pull request with the command the mail suggested |
| 20:58 |
Sokomine |
during merge. one digit was diffrent in the init.lua |
| 20:58 |
Jordach |
Sokomine, what are the commands |
| 20:59 |
PilzAdam |
Sokomine, hmmm.. IIRC you have to git commit then |
| 20:59 |
Sokomine |
git pull https://github.com/VanessaE/windmill master |
| 21:00 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, how do i enable the shaders? shaders are checked (the box) |
| 21:00 |
Sokomine |
that gave me the merge conflict and showed in init.lua what was diffrent. it's a merge conflict that can easily be sorted out manually. just need a way to tell git that. so just re-adding init.lua manually ought to be enough? then it will be merged correctly? |
| 21:00 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, have you read my post? |
| 21:00 |
Jordach |
which one |
| 21:00 |
Inocudom |
Are you referring to RealBadAngel's shaders Jordach? |
| 21:00 |
Jordach |
Inocudom, yes |
| 21:00 |
PilzAdam |
Sokomine, yes, after git add you need to git commit, that completes the merge then |
| 21:00 |
Calinou |
Sokomine: didn't you have a G1610? :P |
| 21:01 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, the one where I ask RBA how to enable the shaders |
| 21:01 |
PilzAdam |
Im going to sleep; bye |
| 21:07 |
Jordach |
hm, might have to grep the source on this one |
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| 21:11 |
Jordach |
hello there https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest_GLSLshaders/blob/master/src/shader.cpp#L764 |
| 21:13 |
Jordach |
Calinou, worked out the shaders yet? |
| 21:13 |
Calinou |
no |
| 21:14 |
Jordach |
damn |
| 21:14 |
Jordach |
this is just like technic |
| 21:14 |
Jordach |
difficult to get started with, and doesnt often work |
| 21:15 |
* Jordach |
turns to ShadowNinja |
| 21:18 |
VanessaE |
enable_bumpmapping = true |
| 21:18 |
VanessaE |
that's one of the controls. |
| 21:18 |
VanessaE |
probably enable_parallaxmapping = true for the other one |
| 21:20 |
Sokomine |
pilzadam: you're right - it's a 1610 |
| 21:20 |
VanessaE |
Sokomine: you missed |
| 21:21 |
Sokomine |
what did i miss? |
| 21:21 |
VanessaE |
[10-30 17:02] <PilzAdam> Im going to sleep; bye |
| 21:21 |
VanessaE |
[10-30 17:02] * PilzAdam has quit (Quit: PilzAdam.shutdown()) |
| 21:22 |
Sokomine |
ah. ok :-) |
| 21:22 |
Sokomine |
seems his solution for the merge conflict did work - adding the init.lua plus a commit message and committing worked fine |
| 21:23 |
Calinou |
you mean Calinou? |
| 21:23 |
Calinou |
Sokomine: I asked :P |
| 21:23 |
Calinou |
I gtg, night |
| 21:24 |
Sokomine |
what did you ask? |
| 21:24 |
Sokomine |
aaah. ok |
| 21:24 |
Sokomine |
ought to have looked more closely :-) |
| 21:24 |
Sokomine |
calinou: hm, you where the one with the really good hardware? |
| 21:25 |
Calinou |
yes |
| 21:25 |
Calinou |
"really good", in 2013 standards there is way better |
| 21:25 |
Calinou |
but between all the active members here I guess I have the fastest PC :p |
| 21:25 |
Calinou |
except xyz |
| 21:26 |
Sokomine |
ok. hope to get redcrabs world ready to upload soon (at least what i captured with sfan5s modification). it would be intresting to find out how much you can load without experiencing problems |
| 21:26 |
Calinou |
(he has a 3930K (6 core with HT) + 670 (25% faster than 570)) |
| 21:26 |
Sokomine |
ok. pretty high-end then |
| 21:27 |
Sokomine |
mt will bring even your fps down :) (under certain circumstances) |
| 21:27 |
Sokomine |
but i guess you'll be able to see more of the world than i do |
| 21:27 |
Sokomine |
hope someone who can also do a video for youtube catches intrest. way more can be seen if the world is run locally |
| 21:29 |
Calinou |
I know how to record but without sound :< |
| 21:29 |
Calinou |
except using in-game tools but Minetest doesn't have one |
| 21:29 |
Sokomine |
sound...there wouldn't be much sound when flying around the world and showing what's there. perhaps someone can dub it |
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| 21:30 |
Sokomine |
hi sapier |
| 21:30 |
sapier |
@ALL developers please rebase all pull requests until 1st november 2013 if you want them to have a chance to be merged in this weekends pull merge session ;-) |
| 21:30 |
Calinou |
there wouldn't, yes |
| 21:30 |
sapier |
hello |
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| 21:33 |
Sokomine |
pull merge session...sounds good :-) so there's some chance of 0.4.8 in the near future? that would be fine for those who still stick with the stable version |
| 21:33 |
sapier |
no guarantee but I still keep pushing to that direction |
| 21:35 |
sapier |
but don't be disapointed if a pull is tagged to be added in 0.4.9 that's a quite real option in order to get 0.4.8 completed this year |
| 21:43 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: Hmmm? |
| 21:46 |
Peacock |
this year? lol so it could be another two months |
| 21:46 |
sapier |
this year is a optimistic guess ;-P |
| 21:47 |
sapier |
there may be some issues to be fixed for 0.4.8 noone has even bothered to create a pull request by now |
| 21:47 |
Peacock |
meh, i dont really mind, id rather have a more bug-free 0.4.8 in two months than a rushed release anyhow |
| 21:48 |
sapier |
that's my opinion too |
| 21:49 |
VanessaE |
agreed |
| 21:57 |
Evergreen |
agreed, also rebased my pull request on minetest_game (I think) |
| 21:58 |
Evergreen |
VanessaE, I think your 6d facedir implementation should be merged, probably will make my pull request obsolete though |
| 21:58 |
Evergreen |
Then I guess I'll just update it. :P |
| 22:06 |
VanessaE |
wasn't there a special drawtype that renders an object the way it looks when wielded? |
| 22:06 |
VanessaE |
like how mobf used to get 3d models before we had real ones? |
| 22:06 |
sapier |
nodebox? |
| 22:06 |
VanessaE |
no, not that |
| 22:06 |
VanessaE |
I mean how you used to turn them into entities |
| 22:06 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: Yes, "weilditem" I beleive. |
| 22:06 |
sapier |
that have been sprites |
| 22:07 |
sapier |
you can specify multiple views for them |
| 22:07 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: I wanna try something >:-) |
| 22:08 |
VanessaE |
hm |
| 22:08 |
VanessaE |
no, that won't work. |
| 22:09 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: remember the idea I had about stacking up a bunch of thin nodeboxes to create a pseudo-3d-extruded node? It depends on getting visual_scale support in that drawtype. I was about to try doing it with the wielditem draw type, but I guess that can't be animated. |
| 22:10 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: drawtype = "mesh"? |
| 22:10 |
VanessaE |
I'm trying to come up with a way, however hacky, to create a 3d, larger-than-one-node waterwheel but make it a real node. Like the windmills, but thick. |
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| 22:11 |
VanessaE |
no, definitely not with an entity. |
| 22:11 |
VanessaE |
guess it's not possible without splitting the texture across multiple nodes :-/ |
| 22:11 |
ShadowNinja |
Well then, why were you asking about entity drawtypes. ;-) |
| 22:11 |
VanessaE |
because I was confused :) |
| 22:12 |
sapier |
what's wrong with entity anyway? I once implemented doors that way |
| 22:12 |
VanessaE |
sapier: two words: entity duplication. |
| 22:13 |
VanessaE |
(four more: I don't grok Blender) |
| 22:13 |
sapier |
a bug that needs to be fixed anyway is not an excuse ;-) |
| 22:15 |
Evergreen |
Entities are still buggy and unstable atm, so it's not good for things being made right now. If all the problems are fixed however... |
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| 22:19 |
Peacock |
you could make an entity out of a nodebox if only you could spin it on the right axis (z) for the windmill effect |
| 22:20 |
VanessaE |
meh |
| 22:20 |
VanessaE |
I'll wait until some more appropriate method presents itself |
| 22:20 |
ShadowNinja |
I dislike using entities because you have to spawn and despawn them properl. |
| 22:20 |
ShadowNinja |
+y |
| 22:20 |
Peacock |
well there's no alternative way to animate node themselves (by animate i dont mean textures) |
| 22:21 |
Peacock |
otherwise you could just make 1 giant nodebox of a wind mill and spin it |
| 22:21 |
sapier |
if you want a mill to do something on its own except beeing nice you need a entity |
| 22:21 |
Peacock |
i guess that would be a 0.5.0 milestone type thing - node velocity and 3 axis spin |
| 22:22 |
Evergreen |
Question: In the tables for dig times in tool registration, does 1.60 mean 1.60 seconds? |
| 22:23 |
sapier |
I don't think that nodes will be animatable anytime soon as you need to attach a model to a node which isn't possible right now |
| 22:23 |
Peacock |
sapier yeah but can you ajust yaw/spin on the z axis even with an entity? |
| 22:23 |
sapier |
you can do any animation with a entity |
| 22:23 |
Peacock |
with a mesh entity |
| 22:23 |
sapier |
yes |
| 22:24 |
Peacock |
though i like to avoid blender if the nodebox is simple enough to do lol |
| 22:24 |
Peacock |
so there ya go V, get someone to make an animated mesh of the mill |
| 22:24 |
sapier |
you need a mesh if you don't want to implement animation code a second time within minetest engine |
| 22:24 |
Peacock |
well we're talking about spin here |
| 22:25 |
VanessaE |
sapier: https://github.com/Sokomine/windmill |
| 22:25 |
Peacock |
my turrets were nodeboxes as entities and i simply did +0.01 to yaw on step for rotation |
| 22:25 |
VanessaE |
with recent git, signlike can be expanded past 1 node without textures being tiled....and they can be animted. |
| 22:25 |
VanessaE |
animated* |
| 22:25 |
VanessaE |
that's how we did the windmills |
| 22:25 |
VanessaE |
I wanna do the same with nodeboxes by placing a whole bunch of 2d nodeboxes side by side, effectively extruding the image |
| 22:26 |
VanessaE |
they'd still animated |
| 22:26 |
VanessaE |
-d |
| 22:26 |
VanessaE |
the issue is making them *big* enough |
| 22:26 |
VanessaE |
john_minetest: survival, creative, and I think MG |
| 22:26 |
Peacock |
signlike is flat though |
| 22:26 |
VanessaE |
though the servers need a restart to bring in a couple of minor bugfixe |
| 22:26 |
VanessaE |
s |
| 22:26 |
Evergreen |
Question again since no one answered: In the tables for dig times in tool registration, does 1.60 mean 1.60 seconds? |
| 22:27 |
VanessaE |
(servers restarted) |
| 22:28 |
sapier |
interesting .... I didn't know about that feature of minetest by now :-) |
| 22:28 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: yes. but if you make a bunch of 2d nodeboxes, e.g. several {nodebox tables}, each of which has the same Z coord for each pair, they'll all get the same image on their facea |
| 22:28 |
VanessaE |
faces |
| 22:28 |
VanessaE |
and the result will look like it's one big extruded node |
| 22:28 |
VanessaE |
by exploiting the fact that the engine always projects the same image onto all faces that point the same direction, regardless of their depth |
| 22:29 |
VanessaE |
that can be done right now as long as the result is 1x1x1m or smaller |
| 22:29 |
VanessaE |
so with a visual_scale tweak like what was done with signs, the result could be larger than 1x1x1m |
| 22:30 |
Peacock |
what is a winnetou? (https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=116348#p116348) |
| 22:31 |
VanessaE |
no clue |
| 22:32 |
VanessaE |
"So, no branches, sorry Winnetou." |
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| 22:33 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: someone on the other channel asked about a MC-like "damaging cactus" mod. Do you still have the one you did? |
| 22:34 |
NekoGloop |
I thought you had a back-up? |
| 22:34 |
NekoGloop |
If not, it shouldn't be that hard to code. |
| 22:34 |
VanessaE |
I don't think so, no |
| 22:34 |
VanessaE |
nope, don't have uit |
| 22:34 |
VanessaE |
it* |
| 22:36 |
NekoGloop |
I can't even remember what I called it. |
| 22:36 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, NekoGloop, http://mods.minetest.ru/cactusmod/ |
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| 22:37 |
VanessaE |
*downloads it* |
| 22:37 |
luizrpgluiz |
hello |
| 22:37 |
NekoGloop |
wait |
| 22:37 |
NekoGloop |
that might be pilz's shitty version |
| 22:37 |
VanessaE |
abm-based |
| 22:38 |
VanessaE |
no nodebox needles |
| 22:38 |
NekoGloop |
That would be mine |
| 22:38 |
Peacock |
ah, wikipedia has the answer: Karl May's "Winnetou" novels symbolize, to some extent, a romantic desire for a simpler life in close contact with nature. In fact, the popularity of the series is due in large part to the ability of the stories to tantalize fantasies many Europeans had and have for this more untamed environment. |
| 22:38 |
VanessaE |
no credits |
| 22:38 |
NekoGloop |
Well, I'm looking at the code. |
| 22:38 |
NekoGloop |
It's mine. |
| 22:38 |
VanessaE |
pl |
| 22:38 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 22:39 |
VanessaE |
do I deploy it or wait for you to rewrite it with the aforementioned missing needles? :) |
| 22:39 |
kaeza |
there are quite a lot of old mods there |
| 22:39 |
NekoGloop |
I'm going to rewrite it, but not with needles |
| 22:39 |
kaeza |
even Peacock's (?) hydrophonics mod :) |
| 22:39 |
luizrpgluiz |
hello peoples |
| 22:39 |
kaeza |
or however you spell that |
| 22:40 |
kaeza |
hi luizrpgluiz |
| 22:40 |
Peacock |
where are there old mods? |
| 22:40 |
VanessaE |
MC (or the mod for it) has needles sticking out, though they're probably best done by making the cactus slighly smaller and using a swastika-shaped nodebox layout |
| 22:41 |
kaeza |
Peacock, http://mods.minetest.ru/ |
| 22:41 |
VanessaE |
one flat nodebox per side, textured so that only the center 95% or so is cactus, the rest is needles sticking outward from the edge |
| 22:41 |
NekoGloop |
If i was going to do it the way MC does it, I'd need to re-create the textures |
| 22:41 |
NekoGloop |
Too lazy. |
| 22:41 |
VanessaE |
and textures for the top/bottom done the same way |
| 22:42 |
VanessaE |
done the usual way I mean |
| 22:42 |
VanessaE |
(but smaller) |
| 22:42 |
NekoGloop |
I'm just going to make a simple lil nodebox |
| 22:42 |
VanessaE |
result looks identical to MC but a tad smaller I guess |
| 22:42 |
NekoGloop |
MC's cactus is less than one block in size |
| 22:42 |
VanessaE |
it is? |
| 22:42 |
Peacock |
figured they'd log everything lol |
| 22:42 |
VanessaE |
well hell we can make ours identical easily then |
| 22:43 |
NekoGloop |
and only hurts when inside the space between the "block" of the cactus and the border of the blockspace |
| 22:43 |
VanessaE |
john_minetest: sfan5 has a build for it. |
| 22:43 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: you mean the actual space taken up by the needles? |
| 22:43 |
NekoGloop |
Well, yes. |
| 22:43 |
VanessaE |
that makes sense. |
| 22:43 |
Peacock |
blockspace wow, thats an anagram for blockscape lol |
| 22:44 |
VanessaE |
too bad there's no way to make a custom collision box :-/ |
| 22:44 |
NekoGloop |
get_objects_inside_radius |
| 22:44 |
VanessaE |
that's a thought |
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| 22:44 |
NekoGloop |
that's how mine works currently |
| 22:44 |
VanessaE |
actual collision box = the center "block" part of the cactus, the rest = the needle space.. |
| 22:44 |
VanessaE |
sounds good to me |
| 22:45 |
sapier |
yes but sounds quite costly too |
| 22:45 |
NekoGloop |
Well, I'm definitely not making a texture |
| 22:45 |
NekoGloop |
sapier, an abm only set to fire every, oh, i don't know, 2 seconds with a chance of 2? |
| 22:45 |
sapier |
depends on number of cactus nodes are there |
| 22:46 |
VanessaE |
abms are cheap enough that even firing off every second is fine if your checks for nearby players are fast enough |
| 22:46 |
NekoGloop |
Pffft |
| 22:46 |
NekoGloop |
this still uses minetest.env |
| 22:46 |
VanessaE |
sapier: easy: cactus with desert sand as the neighbor. |
| 22:46 |
sapier |
are they still cheep if you do a get objects in radius in there? ;_) |
| 22:46 |
VanessaE |
then it'll only ever trigger for the cactus root |
| 22:46 |
sapier |
so you can stand on top of a cactus? :-) |
| 22:46 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE, yeah no |
| 22:47 |
VanessaE |
heh ok maybe mot |
| 22:47 |
VanessaE |
not* |
| 22:47 |
NekoGloop |
also the cactus club needs updating |
| 22:47 |
sapier |
maybe it's fine but we should check with hmm 50 cactus active? |
| 22:47 |
sapier |
maybe better 100 if ppl build walls from it this could easyly happen |
| 22:48 |
NekoGloop |
People who build using cactus are just stupid. |
| 22:48 |
VanessaE |
is there no way to run something *like* an abm but hooked to a player rather than the node? |
| 22:48 |
sapier |
that doesn't make them not do it ;-) |
| 22:48 |
sapier |
no but I way already thinking about a collision callback |
| 22:48 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE, the method of doing that? globalstep. |
| 22:49 |
sapier |
hooked to objects |
| 22:49 |
sapier |
this could be used for mobs as well as for your cactus mod as a player is a object too |
| 22:49 |
sapier |
still that's not gonna happen for 0.4.8 ;-) |
| 22:50 |
NekoGloop |
I'm just searching for generically "objects" |
| 22:50 |
NekoGloop |
So the cactus will hurt mobs, players, falling blocks, item entities... |
| 22:50 |
NekoGloop |
Though item entities are "invincible" |
| 22:50 |
sapier |
what you do in that callback is up to the mod registering it |
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* Peacock |
invades Rhodesia |
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Jordach |
...the server |
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VanessaE |
you mean for the mod store? |
| 23:10 |
VanessaE |
I believe it comes from, https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/ |
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sapier |
true but that's up to the mod developer |
| 23:12 |
sapier |
true too but this has to wait until we get feedback about the mod store and know what to improve |
| 23:18 |
Peacock |
<john_minetest> There should be more mods registered. :: convince the devs, not the channel :P |
| 23:18 |
Peacock |
(mod devs, not core devs) |
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fey_ |
does a server turn back on automatically if you run /shutdown ? |
| 23:20 |
kaeza |
no |
| 23:20 |
kaeza |
^ fey_ |
| 23:20 |
Peacock |
well not all of them :P |
| 23:20 |
Peacock |
personally i thought things were already too centralized and regulator before the store came along lol but thats just me |
| 23:20 |
Peacock |
*regulated lol |
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fey_ |
what store? |
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stormchaser3000 |
hi |
| 23:23 |
Evergreen |
Hey stormchaser3000 did meche help get minetest-classic to work for you? |
| 23:23 |
stormchaser3000 |
yep |
| 23:23 |
stormchaser3000 |
i now know how to compile on ubuntu (read the readme file) lol |
| 23:24 |
Evergreen |
It's called README for a reason. :P |
| 23:24 |
stormchaser3000 |
i aso compiled meintest 0.4.7 |
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stormchaser3000 |
also* |
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VanessaE |
0.4.7 is obsolete |
| 23:24 |
VanessaE |
:) |
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stormchaser3000 |
lol |
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stormchaser3000 |
and i compild prolers build |
| 23:24 |
stormchaser3000 |
proer* |
| 23:25 |
stormchaser3000 |
proller* |
| 23:25 |
VanessaE |
proller* and that's not 0.4.7 |
| 23:25 |
stormchaser3000 |
wow |
| 23:25 |
VanessaE |
that's git |
| 23:25 |
stormchaser3000 |
oh lol |
| 23:25 |
stormchaser3000 |
yeah i compiled that |
| 23:25 |
VanessaE |
(plus a bunch of his patches and other stuff) |
| 23:25 |
Megaf |
Hi there |
| 23:25 |
stormchaser3000 |
i compiled the gits of these versions |
| 23:26 |
Evergreen |
do you even know what git is? |
| 23:26 |
stormchaser3000 |
yes i knwo what a git is |
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| 23:26 |
Evergreen |
lol, if you use the word like that, you certainly don't |
| 23:27 |
stormchaser3000 |
know* |
| 23:27 |
Evergreen |
Git is just slang around here for the latest version. However git is also a project manager that minetest uses |
| 23:27 |
stormchaser3000 |
oh lol |
| 23:27 |
Evergreen |
that isn't a very good explanation, cna someone else explain? |
| 23:27 |
Evergreen |
*can |
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stormchaser3000 |
i was about to |
| 23:28 |
Evergreen |
Things like gitorious and github are online hosts for git repositories |
| 23:29 |
stormchaser3000 |
a git is a source code in an online domain where people can submit requests of there own edits of the code then have them merged into the source |
| 23:29 |
Evergreen |
^ Exactly |
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stormchaser3000 |
lol |
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Evergreen |
Let me explain that, it is a place where projects(like minetest) can be put |
| 23:30 |
stormchaser3000 |
yep |
| 23:30 |
Evergreen |
IT allows other people to change pieces of the code and request that it be included into the actual project |
| 23:30 |
Peacock |
git is for S&M geeks :P |
| 23:31 |
Evergreen |
There is more to it than that, but that is the basics |
| 23:31 |
Peacock |
at least, you have to be a masochist to learn how it works:P |
| 23:32 |
VanessaE |
for 90% of your usage, you only need 5 commands: git branch, checkout, add, commit, and push |
| 23:33 |
Evergreen |
And git pull |
| 23:33 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 23:33 |
VanessaE |
git only gets hairy (for me) when there's a merge conflict |
| 23:33 |
Evergreen |
^ me too |
| 23:34 |
Peacock |
the fact it requires commands makes it harder to setup than my NIVIDA or ATI drivers :P |
| 23:35 |
Peacock |
*harder than setting up |
| 23:35 |
VanessaE |
there are gui apps too |
| 23:35 |
Evergreen |
like git cola or gitk |
| 23:35 |
Evergreen |
gitk is more for commit history |
| 23:35 |
Peacock |
i wouldn't mind so much if the website had this shopping-cart like system where you checkbox pulls and it gives you a download button for the source with those pulls in it |
| 23:36 |
stormchaser3000 |
that would be cool |
| 23:36 |
Peacock |
but i suspect git was made by terminal-geeks for terminal-geeks :P |
| 23:36 |
Evergreen |
Where github gets messy for me is when I'm trying to rebase a pull request, and get merge errors |
| 23:36 |
dante123 |
!up minetest.info.tm |
| 23:37 |
MinetestBot |
minetest.info.tm:30000 is up (9260ms) |
| 23:37 |
Peacock |
and for me the terminal is my last stop for fixing serious fuckups before giving up and reinstalling a new image (when i ran Arch) |
| 23:37 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: git was invented by Linus Torvalds. |
| 23:37 |
VanessaE |
so "terminal geek" is ...questionable (I seem to recall he likes guis) |
| 23:38 |
Peacock |
well you have to like complicated shit to write an entire kernel :P |
| 23:39 |
Peacock |
i mean even i have a hard time imagining how writing a kernel might be a fun or acceptable passtime lol |
| 23:39 |
Evergreen |
While I like the terminal a lot, I must admit to using guis quite a bit |
| 23:39 |
Peacock |
not when you can go fishing on the river with a sixpack in a dingy lol |
| 23:39 |
Peacock |
i like smart GUIs though |
| 23:40 |
Peacock |
some apps in linux have their GUIs written by people obviously more comfortable with commands lol |
| 23:40 |
Peacock |
blender and gimp come to mind |
| 23:40 |
Evergreen |
^ both of which are amazing |
| 23:40 |
Peacock |
yeah, if you can find your way around :P |
| 23:40 |
Peacock |
im not denying their power, im just saying the GUIs could be better |
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| 23:41 |
Peacock |
and then you got ubuntu, the polar opposite, they gut their GUIs of most options/paramaters |
| 23:42 |
Evergreen |
Yes, gimp is certainly not a newbie's friend. |
| 23:42 |
VanessaE |
and now they rather strongly encourage people to pay for it |
| 23:42 |
VanessaE |
(ubuntu_ |
| 23:42 |
Peacock |
well gimp in single-window-mode is still alot easier to learn than blender |
| 23:42 |
Jordach |
BULLSHIT |
| 23:42 |
Jordach |
BULLSHIT |
| 23:42 |
VanessaE |
no shit. |
| 23:42 |
Peacock |
pay for ubuntu? citation? |
| 23:43 |
VanessaE |
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/questions?distro=desktop&bits=64&release=latest |
| 23:43 |
* ShadowNinja |
confirms VanessaE's statement. |
| 23:43 |
Evergreen |
Jordach, gimp is easier to learn from a complete beginners standpoint |
| 23:43 |
Peacock |
i'll be damned |
| 23:43 |
Evergreen |
once you know how to use it, it's hard to forget |
| 23:43 |
VanessaE |
when I last loaded the page, it said something like "Pay what you think it's worth" |
| 23:43 |
Peacock |
so they make ubuntu suck, and suggest you pay for it not sucking? |
| 23:44 |
VanessaE |
scroll to the bottom, click "Not now, take me to the download >" to actually get it |
| 23:44 |
Peacock |
well im hardly surprised, every other canonical business venture has failed miserably |
| 23:44 |
VanessaE |
actually afaiu, Canonical is operating at a healthy profit |
| 23:45 |
Peacock |
you can only make money with linux offering support, like redhat, but then, people will go with the established company, redhat lol |
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Peacock |
dunno, their ubuntu phone hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell |
| 23:45 |
Peacock |
unity on tablets or phones will never take off |
| 23:45 |
Peacock |
heck, i even got an image of android on the netbook, since the screens' about the right size |
| 23:46 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: pick your jaw up and clean up after your asploded head |
| 23:46 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 23:46 |
VanessaE |
bbr |
| 23:46 |
Peacock |
assploaded lol |
| 23:46 |
VanessaE |
brb |
| 23:46 |
Peacock |
having vindaloo again? :P |
| 23:52 |
Jordach |
i am infinitely bored: http://i.imgur.com/iEzJYd9.png |
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Peacock |
i wonder how big a cut debian gets from ubuntu lol |
| 23:54 |
Jordach |
$0 |
| 23:54 |
Peacock |
not that debian is perfect, but i'll take any debian-based distro that cuts out the FSF-style mumbo jumbo |
| 23:55 |
Peacock |
for me an OS is an OS, not a political statement lol |
| 23:55 |
VanessaE |
I use straight debian these days. it sucks less than ubuntu but it has its problems too |
| 23:56 |
VanessaE |
(or apps that purportedly run on it do) |
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* john_minetest |
expected worse sound quality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzYcBcsnlxo |
| 23:56 |
Peacock |
if only there were an arch distro with a synpatic-like package manager and garanteed to work between updates lol |
| 23:57 |
Peacock |
pacman + aur helper just plain sucks |
| 23:57 |
Peacock |
how's about i worry about my freedom? instead of being told what my freedoms should be lol |
| 23:57 |
VanessaE |
it could be worse: you coulda been using slackware prior to advent of slapt-get P:) |
| 23:57 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 23:58 |
Peacock |
communists also believed in forcing their brand of freedom on people, and we all know how that worked out lol |
| 23:58 |
Peacock |
a bit is quite generous :P |
| 23:59 |
Peacock |
i'm more, OSI, torvalds than FSF, stallmanite |
