| Time |
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| 00:02 |
stormchaser3000 |
chatzila |
| 00:02 |
stormchaser3000 |
? |
| 00:02 |
dumdidum |
firefox plugin |
| 00:03 |
stormchaser3000 |
ah |
| 00:03 |
stormchaser3000 |
i should get it i use icechat |
| 00:03 |
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| 00:04 |
dumdidum |
i use chatzilla, works good |
| 00:04 |
VanessaE |
using a browser for chat is bad, mmkay |
| 00:04 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 00:04 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 00:04 |
dumdidum |
i don't use irc often, so it's enough ;) |
| 00:05 |
dumdidum |
oh, vanessa, your texture package is great :) |
| 00:05 |
VanessaE |
thanks |
| 00:06 |
anunakki |
hey NewCoder |
| 00:06 |
anunakki |
hwo have you been? |
| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
I did what I could :) |
| 00:08 |
NewCoder |
Hi! |
| 00:08 |
NewCoder |
anunakki, It is mixed!! :-) |
| 00:09 |
* VanessaE |
wonders if OldCoder just updated to a newer model or what :) |
| 00:09 |
anunakki |
:) |
| 00:10 |
Peacock |
oldcoder got himself a boobjob and a facelift?! :P |
| 00:10 |
VanessaE |
HA! |
| 00:10 |
stormchaser3000 |
so anyway i am playing on minetest classic |
| 00:11 |
anunakki |
i've got a mean head cold right now, killing me.. haha |
| 00:11 |
Peacock |
i got a cold too, and my ass feels like stonehenge :( |
| 00:11 |
stormchaser3000 |
ouch |
| 00:11 |
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| 00:12 |
Peacock |
temperature dropped rather drastically this week |
| 00:12 |
anunakki |
NewCoder, did you ever make any progress with minetest running on an fbsd server |
| 00:12 |
anunakki |
i remember we had some truoble before |
| 00:12 |
VanessaE |
same here, Peacock |
| 00:12 |
VanessaE |
dropped like 20 degrees in a couple of days' time |
| 00:12 |
NewCoder |
anunakki, I can do naught with BSD without you... like is f*cked. But improving! |
| 00:12 |
NewCoder |
* life is etc. |
| 00:12 |
Peacock |
didn't have enough of a sweater outside today |
| 00:13 |
anunakki |
ah, you still going through all the rough shit? |
| 00:17 |
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| 00:18 |
Peacock |
well that was a pointless system update, moviefone still won't load images and trailers :/ |
| 00:22 |
NewCoder |
anunakki, Heh. It is Good as well as Bad. Read blog later on. |
| 00:22 |
NewCoder |
anunakki, I wish to see you more often! |
| 00:23 |
anunakki |
i've added the network and channel to auto connect/join |
| 00:23 |
anunakki |
so i'm here all the time now |
| 00:31 |
NewCoder |
anunakki, Glad to hear it! |
| 00:31 |
* NewCoder |
is in a meeting for an hour |
| 00:32 |
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| 00:34 |
* VanessaE |
offers a glass of wine to whoever wants |
| 00:37 |
Peacock |
already gots beer |
| 00:37 |
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| 00:37 |
Peacock |
also used pillows and sheets to make a fort for the cat, she's hiding in it XD |
| 00:38 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 00:42 |
* paramat |
doesnt drink :P |
| 00:42 |
Peacock |
an englishmen that doesn't drink? what's this world coming to :P |
| 00:43 |
Peacock |
seriously every BBC show i've ever watched had someone drinking way too much every other episode lol |
| 00:45 |
VanessaE |
paramat, you should be ashamed :) this is decent wine, as the cheap stuff goes :) |
| 00:53 |
JackGruff |
You guys should play Factorio |
| 00:54 |
JackGruff |
It's a 2D IndustrialCraft, sort of |
| 00:57 |
us}0gb |
I don't drink either, but I suppose I'm not English, so that doesn't matter. |
| 01:01 |
VanessaE |
too bad :) |
| 01:02 |
us}0gb |
Yeah, it's a shame I'm not English, but I'll get by somehow. |
| 01:02 |
Peacock |
not too many geeks like to drink or get high or get laid, though im not always convinced thats entirely by choice :P |
| 01:03 |
Peacock |
i can believe people not doing one of the 3 for health reasons, but otherwise when it's more i tend to think they just don't have social lives :P |
| 01:03 |
* paramat |
is semi-asexual |
| 01:03 |
us}0gb |
I've turned down a girl who was coming on to me. I also have ID to get into the bar. So at least two of those are my choice. |
| 01:03 |
* us}0gb |
is asexual |
| 01:04 |
Peacock |
well people can chose to hide behind computers their whole lives, doesn't mean it's necessarily healthy |
| 01:05 |
us}0gb |
I do get out and socialize, I just don't do it via drugs, sex, or rock and roll. |
| 01:06 |
paramat |
P, its cool youre testing the skybox, let me know if you need a custom asteroid mod |
| 01:06 |
Peacock |
like I said, lots of geeks will always imply it's a choice :P like college who "abstain" (can't get any) |
| 01:06 |
* paramat |
was once offered money for mapgen tutoring |
| 01:07 |
paramat |
if only i could earn money from mapgen, i get lots of requests, however i do minetest for free |
| 01:07 |
us}0gb |
Peacock: It's an honest choice for me. Those things sound awful to me, and I don't understand why other people choose them. It's their choice, and I respect that, but I choose to avoid. |
| 01:08 |
VanessaE |
well be honest with yourself, paramat: you make some damn good mapgen-esque mods |
| 01:08 |
paramat |
:) |
| 01:08 |
Peacock |
that's fine, but i wouldn't want to live your life either :P so at least we can agree on not wanting to trade places :P |
| 01:09 |
us}0gb |
For sure. You keep your life, I'll keep mine. That sounds like a fair not-trade to me. |
| 01:10 |
Peacock |
personally i dont believe in an afterlife so i'd like to make the most of this one |
| 01:11 |
us}0gb |
I don't either. |
| 01:11 |
VanessaE |
I'd like to think there's an afterlife, but whether there is or not, I'm gonna make the best of this one too. |
| 01:12 |
stormchaser3000 |
but after the end of the world there will be a pairadise in earth where people will live forever |
| 01:12 |
us}0gb |
Once we're gone though, nothing we did will have mattered to us. They say to make the memories while you can, but those memories will be lost when you die. So they don't matter either .... |
| 01:12 |
Peacock |
what a nihilistic POV |
| 01:13 |
us}0gb |
I wish there was an afterlife ... I don't want to disappear forever ... 😓 |
| 01:13 |
stormchaser3000 |
people will live again though |
| 01:13 |
stormchaser3000 |
0gb read the bible |
| 01:13 |
us}0gb |
Why would I read some Christian mythology? It doesn't interest me. |
| 01:13 |
Peacock |
dunno, might not matter to you now, but you may regret later on not taking advantage of your youth :P |
| 01:14 |
us}0gb |
Now GREEK mythology was interesting. |
| 01:14 |
stormchaser3000 |
it talks about there being a paradise after the end of the world |
| 01:14 |
stormchaser3000 |
greek mythology is kind of interesting |
| 01:14 |
NakedFury |
greek and roman mythology |
| 01:14 |
us}0gb |
Yeah, a lot of stories talk about that in several mythologies. |
| 01:14 |
stormchaser3000 |
but the bible is inspired by God |
| 01:14 |
NakedFury |
franly 1 god religions arent very interesting |
| 01:14 |
Peacock |
actually im alot more interested in the notions of reincarnation and cyclical history |
| 01:15 |
us}0gb |
stormchaser3000: Greek mythology was inspired by gods too. |
| 01:15 |
stormchaser3000 |
but not real ones |
| 01:15 |
Peacock |
the greecians believe in many gods |
| 01:15 |
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| 01:15 |
NakedFury |
oh no this may take a wrong turn soon |
| 01:15 |
stormchaser3000 |
well bye i am going to #minetest-classic |
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| 01:16 |
* paramat |
has a lifelong obsession with extreme metal and approves of people getting high :L |
| 01:17 |
NakedFury |
drug high? |
| 01:17 |
Peacock |
i love weed but the shit around here is so weak i gave it up six months ago |
| 01:17 |
NakedFury |
good thats poison. any smoking is poison to your body |
| 01:17 |
us}0gb |
I don't care if people get high, that's their own business. As long as they leave me out of it. Though I do feel bad for them. |
| 01:17 |
Peacock |
cannabis and nicotine make a lot of dumb people tolerable lol |
| 01:17 |
Guest63445 |
Guys, I've never been on this channel and am quite new with Linux. I have just downloaded Slacko Puppy to a usb and am talking to you off of it. It is not at all on my computer, just the usb. I dowonloaded Minetest, and there was a message saying it was in the "Fun" section of the menu. Well, I can't seem to open it. Is that because it is on a usb flash drive and not the computer, or is there a way to make it work? |
| 01:18 |
us}0gb |
I'm not sure. I haven't used Puppy. |
| 01:19 |
Guest63445 |
Ummm does anyone know about playing Minetest on a usb? |
| 01:19 |
NakedFury |
an external drive? |
| 01:19 |
us}0gb |
How did you download it? From the repository? |
| 01:19 |
Guest63445 |
No, from an online site for Puppy. |
| 01:20 |
VanessaE |
Guest63445: if it's on usb, you just cd to the directory and run it from there |
| 01:21 |
VanessaE |
it'll only show up in the menu if you "install" it (e.g. a non-portable, not-run-in-place build, which is somewhat uncommon) |
| 01:21 |
Guest63445 |
ummm please explain, since I'm new to Linux just from Windows. |
| 01:21 |
Peacock |
nothing like USB puppy for portable OSs |
| 01:22 |
VanessaE |
plug in your USB stick. Open a file manager if it doesn't do so for you. Navigate to the folder on the USB drive where minetest is. Find the bin/ directory. In there are one or two executable programs, one of which is named "minetest". double-click that |
| 01:22 |
Guest63445 |
What do you mean, "you just cd to the directory and run it from there"? |
| 01:23 |
VanessaE |
the "cd into" is if you were running from a terminal. Forget that method for now and instead use the file manager as above. |
| 01:23 |
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| 01:24 |
VanessaE |
you can do the terminal method later on after you get comfortable with the command line and so forth |
| 01:24 |
Guest63445 |
o.k., I'm copying this down, and I'll try it. Thanks! |
| 01:27 |
paramat |
Peacock, skybox as a cube with 6 textures seems appropriate since MT cosmology is cubic, whereas our cosmology is spherical |
| 01:27 |
Peacock |
yeah, though finding perfectly square star/space backgrounds, or repeating ones, is a bit more tricky |
| 01:28 |
NakedFury |
cubic cosmos |
| 01:29 |
paramat |
abstract purpose designed textures will look much better than real life astronomy photos :) |
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| 01:31 |
Peacock |
kinda defeats the purpose of epic backgrounds though :P |
| 01:37 |
VanessaE |
well I've seen some really GOOD "artist impression" images of like extrasolar planets and the like |
| 01:37 |
VanessaE |
so why not? |
| 01:40 |
paramat |
i was watching 'moontest' get nowhere fast and stepped in to suggest a direction as a LVM mod |
| 01:41 |
paramat |
now im thinking of finally making *the* MT moon mod ... as in whatever that thing in the sky is |
| 01:41 |
jojoa1997 |
LVM? |
| 01:41 |
paramat |
heh |
| 01:42 |
paramat |
LuVManipulator, vox my nipples |
| 01:42 |
jojoa1997 |
-.- |
| 01:42 |
jojoa1997 |
anyways |
| 01:43 |
jojoa1997 |
you should make players have to go through a chese portal to get to the moon |
| 01:52 |
paramat |
cheese portal? too MC :) |
| 01:53 |
* paramat |
could make a sun mod too |
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| 01:54 |
paramat |
it would be simple, a realm of bright nodes heh |
| 01:56 |
paramat |
MT terrain is modeled on earth's, so i guess the moon should be similar to our moon ... |
| 01:57 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 01:57 |
Exio4 |
you could make space ships or so |
| 01:57 |
Peacock |
vox my nipples |
| 01:57 |
paramat |
no thanks |
| 01:57 |
Exio4 |
why not? |
| 01:57 |
Peacock |
ships cant move in MT |
| 01:57 |
Exio4 |
you could call yourself NASA then 8) |
| 01:58 |
Exio4 |
Peacock: the idea is building a ship, somehow, and then place an entity, then it moves a bit and then teleports |
| 01:58 |
Exio4 |
like a "time-travel" in movies :P |
| 01:58 |
Menche |
like how sand moves? |
| 01:58 |
Peacock |
a single entity, or one for each node like the airship mod? |
| 01:58 |
Exio4 |
single entity |
| 01:58 |
Peacock |
aiight, how would you make 1 entity from several nodes though? (if it can be done, im interested) |
| 01:59 |
Peacock |
i had ships run in 50K nodes, and more lol |
| 01:59 |
Exio4 |
hardcoded entities, there isn't an entity lvm yet |
| 01:59 |
NakedFury |
before ships lets work on a smoother no hiccups cart |
| 01:59 |
Peacock |
ah well, |
| 01:59 |
Menche |
yeah lol |
| 01:59 |
Peacock |
an API function that converts a schematic to entity, might just do the trick |
| 01:59 |
NakedFury |
carts and small boat |
| 02:00 |
Menche |
we haven't gotten single-node land vehicles completely stable yet |
| 02:00 |
Exio4 |
the ship would be a "cosmetic thing", it wouldn't really move but more allow you to sit on it and then it makes you "feel" like it moves a bit and then you end in the space |
| 02:01 |
paramat |
> ([02:57] <Exio4> why not?) oh heh i was replying to P |
| 02:01 |
Peacock |
well my earlier suggestion was to use voxmynipples to remove ships from the main map and to a "subspace" layer (an inaccesible part of the map) to fake travel |
| 02:02 |
paramat |
nice idea |
| 02:02 |
Exio4 |
ah paramat :P |
| 02:03 |
Peacock |
faking space travel is probably alot better than trying to physically move the nodes (with velocity and accel) |
| 02:03 |
Exio4 |
isn't that what i said |
| 02:03 |
Peacock |
because if the whole ship is moving like entities, chances are the player is *attached* and can't move within it |
| 02:03 |
paramat |
there's a UFO mod that travels as a vehicle, could edit that |
| 02:04 |
Peacock |
exio you said |
| 02:04 |
Peacock |
<Exio4> Peacock: the idea is building a ship, somehow, and then place an entity, then it moves a bit and then teleports |
| 02:04 |
Exio4 |
fake travel, that is |
| 02:04 |
Peacock |
ufo mod is fine, but it's not for big ships |
| 02:04 |
kaeza |
[23:58:09] <Peacock> aiight, how would you make 1 entity from several nodes though? (if it can be done, im interested) |
| 02:05 |
kaeza |
^ I have some code for that |
| 02:05 |
Exio4 |
lel |
| 02:05 |
kaeza |
Exio4, ? |
| 02:05 |
Exio4 |
how rare :3 |
| 02:06 |
kaeza |
I actually used it for "reducing" a WE region to a single node :P |
| 02:06 |
Peacock |
for big ships, you have to picture say, moving a skyscraper or castle (which is what most people build) |
| 02:07 |
paramat |
idea for space elevator: enter capsule, teleports you to the interior of an identical capsule at destination |
| 02:07 |
Peacock |
space elevators would be cool |
| 02:07 |
Peacock |
especially for the layered- realms type worlds |
| 02:07 |
paramat |
yes |
| 02:07 |
Peacock |
you could use the special gravity settings for that |
| 02:08 |
NakedFury |
it would be great if an elevator node could be made. to lower or raise you smoothly |
| 02:08 |
NakedFury |
could look like an old style mining elevator |
| 02:08 |
NakedFury |
http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/02/a6/43/49/filename-out-west-2012.jpg |
| 02:08 |
Peacock |
you mean a typical elevator? yeah i asked for that too but the best we got is teleports |
| 02:08 |
NakedFury |
like that one |
| 02:08 |
Peacock |
which i tried a year ago lol |
| 02:08 |
paramat |
space elevator is a 1D vertical realm for connecting the realm stack, another project 8P |
| 02:08 |
Menche |
shouldn't be too hard, just move the node up like sand/gravel with the player attached |
| 02:08 |
kaeza |
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/makeone.jar |
| 02:09 |
kaeza |
oops |
| 02:09 |
kaeza |
this one instead: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/makeone.tar.bz2 |
| 02:09 |
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| 02:09 |
kaeza |
inb4 >.jar |
| 02:10 |
paramat |
grog your music is good |
| 02:10 |
Peacock |
well your typical space elevator could be part of the mapgen |
| 02:10 |
Peacock |
a solid cylinder at 0.0,0 going from top to bottom |
| 02:11 |
Peacock |
GRoooooooooooooooooooog! |
| 02:11 |
thefamilygrog66 |
hey thanks, paramat - which stuff? |
| 02:11 |
Peacock |
the barry white stuff :P |
| 02:12 |
Peacock |
actually, this is pretty cool: http://hypem.com/track/1yw4h/Simon+%26+Garfunkel+-+The+Sound+Of+Silence+%28The+Golden+Pony+Remix%29 |
| 02:12 |
paramat |
i saw 2 videos you posted on IRC, a recent gig and the early mushroom band thing |
| 02:15 |
thefamilygrog66 |
cool. I'm no Barry White, but I have fun with it anyway. |
| 02:15 |
paramat |
here's some of my multidimensional fractal generated music https://soundcloud.com/menokefug |
| 02:15 |
Peacock |
i go more for remixes of old beats :P the mathematical stuff reminds me of that species on Voyager that though the doctor was the best singer ever lol |
| 02:16 |
Peacock |
http://hypem.com/track/1gphj/Marvin+Gaye+-+Sunny+%28Mercury+Edit+II%29 |
| 02:17 |
paramat |
i also have a microtonal ambient bass guitar track and video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBOxnO10KjE |
| 02:18 |
zat |
Anybody seen a player called nolan? |
| 02:18 |
Peacock |
annoying fuck yeah |
| 02:18 |
paramat |
thats what my digital art looks like |
| 02:18 |
thefamilygrog66 |
haha |
| 02:18 |
Peacock |
BSG translation: an annoying frak yeah |
| 02:19 |
thefamilygrog66 |
cool stuff paramat - I've done some synth stuff as well, albeit analog (e.g. ARP 2600, Maxi Korg) |
| 02:19 |
Peacock |
<Beavis> hrm hrm, you said anal</Beavis> |
| 02:20 |
Peacock |
<Butt-Head> Anal-og, uhuhuhuh</Butt-Head> |
| 02:21 |
paramat |
anal log .. uhuhuh |
| 02:21 |
Peacock |
even funnier in the movie when they derived "anus" from "entertain us" lol |
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| 02:22 |
khonkhortisan |
This car has gotten dirty. Wash it. → wa-shit |
| 02:23 |
Peacock |
http://youtu.be/Rh17jKL0DfA |
| 02:26 |
thefamilygrog66 |
here's a couple of things I did with my Maxi Korg synth and a looping pedal: https://myspace.com/numbloc/music/songs |
| 02:26 |
thefamilygrog66 |
very '70s sci fi soundtrackety |
| 02:27 |
Peacock |
jerry goldsmithy or other Geroge-Orr scifish? |
| 02:27 |
Peacock |
erm, The Lathe of Heaven |
| 02:27 |
thefamilygrog66 |
hmm, you tell me |
| 02:28 |
thefamilygrog66 |
influenced by Logan's Run and Land of the Lost, I guess |
| 02:28 |
thefamilygrog66 |
hehe |
| 02:28 |
thefamilygrog66 |
oh and the classic Canadian series, Starlost |
| 02:28 |
Peacock |
well goldsmith did the music for Best of Both Worlds, the most influential 2-parter of TNG |
| 02:29 |
Peacock |
Starlost doesn't ring a bell, lol i dont watch canadian stuff just because it's canadian if budget is shit... though The Colony was pretty good |
| 02:30 |
thefamilygrog66 |
http://youtu.be/UMAi6u4Ps5A |
| 02:30 |
Peacock |
what sucks for most canadian productions is they don't have the money for things like sets or CGI |
| 02:30 |
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| 02:30 |
Peacock |
the actors are just as good, but if the sets are fake-y i can't get into it |
| 02:31 |
thefamilygrog66 |
this wasn't that bad for mid'70s |
| 02:32 |
Peacock |
well canadian productions used to get alot more money from the gov't than they do now |
| 02:32 |
Peacock |
damn NAFTA |
| 02:32 |
paramat |
nice loops grog, especially the first, my ambient track uses a boss loop station (anagram: tits on a loop) |
| 02:33 |
thefamilygrog66 |
right on, I just use my line6 delay modeler |
| 02:33 |
thefamilygrog66 |
harlan ellison (babylon 5) did the starlost, btw |
| 02:33 |
Peacock |
babylon 5 sucked though :/ |
| 02:34 |
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| 02:34 |
Peacock |
the acting sucked dead man's balls, the CGI looks dated, and the aliens were ridiculous lol |
| 02:35 |
thefamilygrog66 |
ok, he also wrote an episode of star trek |
| 02:36 |
Peacock |
early tng also looks dated (manskirts) though writing isnt the same as producing |
| 02:37 |
Peacock |
i still find it comical that MJS blames DS9 for his series sucking so hard lol |
| 02:39 |
thefamilygrog66 |
best star trek episode of all time: http://youtu.be/-pNQYHvhnms |
| 02:39 |
Peacock |
apart from both shows being set on a space station, they didn't have much in common |
| 02:40 |
NakedFury |
the world needs a new star trek series |
| 02:40 |
Peacock |
id wait till JJ dies |
| 02:40 |
Peacock |
otherwise he'll likely write it |
| 02:41 |
NakedFury |
I also noticed that while in some episodes Picard didnt help people because of the prime directive he was quick to help others and ignoring it |
| 02:41 |
Peacock |
that was Janeway |
| 02:41 |
Peacock |
but what do you expect from a woman captain? :P |
| 02:41 |
Peacock |
if voyager could help itself, it would because of the prime directive, but if they saw something they felt was wrong, they *had* to stick their noses in it :P |
| 02:41 |
NakedFury |
there was an episode about a whole planet being drugged by another planet |
| 02:42 |
Peacock |
TNG |
| 02:42 |
NakedFury |
thats Picard too |
| 02:42 |
Peacock |
and they didn't violate the PD, they simply refused to provide parts to fix their ships for drug-runs |
| 02:42 |
NakedFury |
AFTER knowing what it would do to give parts |
| 02:43 |
thefamilygrog66 |
samaritan somethingorother |
| 02:43 |
thefamilygrog66 |
snare? |
| 02:43 |
Peacock |
i think that was the boobytrap episode |
| 02:43 |
thefamilygrog66 |
you can fix it, make us go? |
| 02:43 |
thefamilygrog66 |
we collect things that make us go |
| 02:43 |
Peacock |
Symbiosis is the episode with the drug dealers |
| 02:43 |
thefamilygrog66 |
you're smart |
| 02:44 |
Peacock |
samaritan snare is with the space-fearing retards you're right |
| 02:44 |
Peacock |
and booby trap is the episode with the ancient warship and the booby trap |
| 02:44 |
Peacock |
*space-faring |
| 02:45 |
thexyz |
"report" link on forums look too similar to "reply"; people sometimes misuse it, what should we do? |
| 02:45 |
NakedFury |
Starfleet captains are very meddlesome |
| 02:46 |
NewCoder |
Indeed! |
| 02:46 |
NewCoder |
Prime Directive Be Damned! |
| 02:46 |
Peacock |
ban users who use report as troublemakers |
| 02:46 |
thefamilygrog66 |
is "report" really necessary? |
| 02:46 |
NakedFury |
there is something going on weird that has nothing to do with them. FUCK IT im gonna make it my problem |
| 02:47 |
NakedFury |
if Picard smells mistery he becomes the most meddlesome person in the galaxy |
| 02:47 |
thefamilygrog66 |
ban all users |
| 02:47 |
Peacock |
yes, ban them all as communist agitators |
| 02:48 |
Peacock |
</McCarthy> |
| 02:48 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Lenin and McCarthy were a good songwriting team. Oh wait. I mean political opposites. |
| 02:49 |
Peacock |
well McCarthy was probably legitimately concerned about spies, but too paranoid to be competent about it lol |
| 02:50 |
Peacock |
total lack of fear and excessive amounts of fear lead to the same things |
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thefamilygrog66 |
I'm gonna watch some low budget sci fi and fall asleep - later folks! |
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thexyz |
Peacock: I'll start with myself then, I once used it too |
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Peacock |
uhm, used what? lool |
| 02:56 |
Peacock |
im watching oliver stone's JFK |
| 02:56 |
Peacock |
ah, grog is already gone |
| 02:56 |
Peacock |
also got oliver stone's Nixon lined up in the playlist |
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thexyz |
Peacock: "report" link |
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thexyz |
instead of reply |
| 02:58 |
thexyz |
it's confusing |
| 02:59 |
Peacock |
i guess its because they both start by "Rep" |
| 02:59 |
thexyz |
right |
| 02:59 |
Peacock |
though i tend to use 'quote' so i dont get them mixed up as much |
| 02:59 |
Peacock |
maybe, Icons instead? |
| 02:59 |
Peacock |
an exclamation mark for report |
| 03:00 |
thexyz |
perhaps just color "Reply" in green |
| 03:00 |
Peacock |
or you could move Report to another spot |
| 03:00 |
Peacock |
top of the post? |
| 03:00 |
sdzen |
or a picture of a policeman attacking a computer. |
| 03:00 |
Peacock |
works too lol |
| 03:01 |
Peacock |
either way, proximity and similarity don't help lol |
| 03:09 |
kaeza |
a white-on-blue color scheme for Reply? |
| 03:10 |
Peacock |
well anything that differentiates Reply from Report would probably help :P |
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sdzen |
why don't we combine them? |
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cy1 |
How's about we get hash trees for media transfer in minetest? |
| 03:20 |
cy1 |
That way you don't have to check every single file when connecting after you downloaded, only the root hash. |
| 03:21 |
cy1 |
And if only some of the files changed, you only have to check the hashes for those. |
| 03:25 |
dumdidum |
i'm using moreores mod but it seems that i don't get tin, silver and mithril ... i'm using minetest 0.4.7-dev |
| 03:26 |
dumdidum |
any ideas? |
| 03:27 |
kaeza |
are you sure you enabled it? |
| 03:28 |
dumdidum |
it's shown under 'installed mods' |
| 03:28 |
kaeza |
do the items appear in creative mode inventory? |
| 03:28 |
Miner_48er |
/mods from within server |
| 03:28 |
kaeza |
also, note that the ores only appear in areas not generated yet |
| 03:30 |
dumdidum |
can't find it in creative mode ... |
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dumdidum |
i can't find any item added by mods ... |
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Miner_48er |
what shows up with the /mods cmd? |
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kaeza |
dumdidum, in singleplayer tab, hit 'Configure' and enable mods there |
| 03:34 |
dumdidum |
ok, i enabled the mods. but now i get an error message ^^ |
| 03:35 |
Miner_48er |
what is the message? |
| 03:35 |
dumdidum |
thats the problem. it's not shown completely ... |
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dumdidum |
error: moderror: failed to load and run |
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dumdidum |
than a path, but it's not complete ... |
| 03:37 |
Miner_48er |
check the end of the debug.txt file |
| 03:37 |
Miner_48er |
located in the minetest folder |
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dumdidum |
it's not in the debug.txt but on the terminal i have the messages :) |
| 03:41 |
dumdidum |
it's an error with the modname. it does not follow naming conventions. i will try to change it |
| 03:41 |
Miner_48er |
ok |
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dumdidum |
seems good |
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dumdidum |
thank you :) |
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sfan5 |
hi everyone |
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nore |
hi sfan5 |
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nore |
sfan5, was group:stick finally added to minetest_game? |
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sfan5 |
I don't think it was |
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nore |
was wasn't it merged? It looks like PA agreed |
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reactor |
Ehlo. |
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reactor |
Hell. |
| 08:23 |
reactor |
Why don't some people indent their code? |
| 08:23 |
cy1 |
reactor: because they use notepad? |
| 08:23 |
reactor |
This one uses gedit. |
| 08:23 |
cy1 |
Well there you have it. |
| 08:23 |
reactor |
And I already told him it's incomprehensible and leads to errors. |
| 08:23 |
reactor |
:( |
| 08:24 |
cy1 |
Is it minetest related...? |
| 08:24 |
reactor |
Back in the day, I used it myself, but I _never ever_ skimped on code formatting. |
| 08:24 |
reactor |
Partially. |
| 08:24 |
reactor |
That person is by far not a slob in everything else. But why does that happen? |
| 08:25 |
cy1 |
Hubris I guess. |
| 08:25 |
reactor |
Oh. |
| 08:25 |
cy1 |
Everyone wants to be the genius whose code works miraculously. |
| 08:25 |
reactor |
Probably. |
| 08:26 |
cy1 |
I had a fun idea for a technic dam the other day. |
| 08:26 |
cy1 |
A machine that produces exponentially more power the more water blocks deep upstream, but only works if there are no water blocks downstream. |
| 08:27 |
reactor |
hmm? |
| 08:27 |
cy1 |
I don't think it would be too hard to check 8 blocks above for water, and a few blocks around for air... |
| 08:28 |
cy1 |
Then you line the bottom of your dam with these devices, and hook them up to a battery box. |
| 08:29 |
reactor |
yep |
| 08:29 |
cy1 |
idk it'd be better to fix the damn supply converter bug. |
| 08:29 |
reactor |
By the way, has this ever been fixed in mesecons: two doors facing each other will always be one open, the other one closed. |
| 08:30 |
reactor |
I mean, if you connect mesecons to them, say, to make them open automatically for you. |
| 08:30 |
cy1 |
What's the use case for two doors facing each other... |
| 08:31 |
cy1 |
Salloon style double doors? |
| 08:35 |
arsdragonfly |
what's that supply converter bug? |
| 08:37 |
reactor |
Yes, cy1. |
| 08:38 |
reactor |
Some buildinds I ported from Minecraft have them. |
| 08:38 |
reactor |
Also, has anyone implemented glass doors? |
| 08:38 |
reactor |
I don't see using glass doors texture on wooden doors convenient. |
| 08:39 |
reactor |
Because sometimes you need plain doors as well. |
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germa |
hi... |
| 08:41 |
germa |
sorry, i don't find the solution... i create my server game, send my ip to my friends and they can't connect |
| 08:41 |
germa |
i open the ports but nothing |
| 08:42 |
pitriss |
germa: do you have public IP? |
| 08:42 |
cy1 |
reactor: It's not a bug persay, but to make doors that open that way you need to have one open and the other closed. They're actually aligned 90 degrees to each other, so when only one is open, they both block off the doorway. |
| 08:42 |
pitriss |
If you are behind nat then it will not work |
| 08:42 |
cy1 |
reactor: So you just have to use a not gate to invert the signal for the door that isn't working right for you. |
| 08:43 |
germa |
my public ip? |
| 08:43 |
cy1 |
as for glass doors, hm... |
| 08:44 |
cy1 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4965 might work. |
| 08:44 |
germa |
you want my publkic ip? |
| 08:44 |
reactor |
cy1: the problem is that I use pressure plates right in front of them |
| 08:44 |
cy1 |
reactor: http://minetest-home-decor.wikia.com/wiki/Minetest_Home_Decor_Wiki#Doors also has glass doors |
| 08:44 |
reactor |
To make them let you out without effort |
| 08:44 |
cy1 |
Huh, don't know if they respond to mesecon signals. |
| 08:44 |
reactor |
Uh? |
| 08:45 |
cy1 |
I'll go check! |
| 08:46 |
germa |
ahah |
| 08:47 |
cy1 |
ah, interestingly the homedecor doors can be crafted to left opening or right opening. |
| 08:48 |
cy1 |
they don't respond to mesecons though :( |
| 08:49 |
cy1 |
VanessaE: Your homedecor doors don't open with pressure plates! |
| 08:51 |
cy1 |
VanessaE: Also the right-opening glass door has the sounds mixed up, the open sound for closing and the close sound for opening! |
| 08:54 |
cy1 |
VanessaE: or uh... it's the left-opening one that's backwards if the doors are supposed to face each other. |
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* Jordach |
installs Lua to flash drive |
| 09:57 |
cy1 |
dammit... |
| 09:57 |
* Jordach |
attaches another account to Thunderbird |
| 09:58 |
cy1 |
http://pastebin.com/yYAf08ua |
| 09:58 |
cy1 |
something something metatables grumble |
| 09:58 |
cy1 |
I think table.copy will fix that stuff. |
| 09:59 |
nore |
cy1, that is known since a long time |
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nore |
you should look at clone_node in pipeworks |
| 10:00 |
nore |
hi PilzAdam |
| 10:00 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 10:00 |
cy1 |
nore: yeah w/ev |
| 10:03 |
* arsdragonfly |
doubts if he was a retard in face of his maths homework |
| 10:03 |
reactor |
Pwned. |
| 10:03 |
reactor |
anunakki: calculus, right? |
| 10:03 |
reactor |
Oops. |
| 10:03 |
reactor |
arsdragonfly* |
| 10:04 |
arsdragonfly |
proof of inequalities actually |
| 10:05 |
reactor |
What semester? |
| 10:05 |
arsdragonfly |
1st semester of 10th grade |
| 10:06 |
reactor |
I don't get it why school students are moaning about their homework. |
| 10:06 |
reactor |
How will you hack it at uni if you're not able to do anything now? |
| 10:07 |
reactor |
Grow some muscle up there, man! |
| 10:07 |
* Jordach |
pets MinetestBot |
| 10:07 |
arsdragonfly |
hmmmm ok |
| 10:07 |
* MinetestBot |
purrs. |
| 10:09 |
reactor |
Inequalities are not actually that hard if you remember the basic rules. |
| 10:09 |
VanessaE |
good morning |
| 10:10 |
reactor |
Mowing, VanessaE. |
| 10:12 |
Jordach |
hey VanessaE |
| 10:14 |
Jordach |
the i5's i work with in the computing are man enough to handle blender's internals (3 seconds per 720p frame btw, that's not bad!) |
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Jordach |
im currently thinking of an experimental game mode |
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TheLastProject |
0.3FPS sounds like a decent framerate, yes |
| 10:18 |
Jordach |
TheLastProject, i meant hitting ctrl + f12 |
| 10:18 |
Jordach |
the viewport is 60fps all the way |
| 10:18 |
TheLastProject |
You need 3 seconds to press Ctrl+F12? |
| 10:18 |
Jordach |
TheLastProject, nope. |
| 10:19 |
Jordach |
rendering the final image sequence (eg, a single frame in a film) takes three seconds to generate from my camera |
| 10:19 |
Jordach |
s/my/the |
| 10:19 |
TheLastProject |
Hmm |
| 10:19 |
Jordach |
not to mention it takes ~30 on my pentium 4 |
| 10:20 |
TheLastProject |
Heh, even I have something faster than a Pentium 4 |
| 10:20 |
Jordach |
TheLastProject, i prefer things that last over the latest :P |
| 10:20 |
cy1 |
OK I've got double glass doors working, and bonus trap doors working too. Not homedecor of course, but the doors mod jeija already had supporting code for. |
| 10:21 |
TheLastProject |
Same here |
| 10:21 |
Jordach |
TheLastProject, my elderly Acer Aspire is 7 years old |
| 10:21 |
VanessaE |
y u no use homedecor doors? :( |
| 10:22 |
Jordach |
(and the final processor i can get is a intel core duo) |
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cy1 |
dear princess celestia today I stayed up too late again wasting my life on automated doors code |
| 10:37 |
reactor |
john_minetest: you forgot "and everybody else" |
| 10:38 |
germa |
I lose |
| 10:38 |
reactor |
In that case, I will not say hello to you. |
| 10:39 |
reactor |
Now, hi. |
| 10:39 |
reactor |
How's the science? |
| 10:39 |
reactor |
Btw, facility? |
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cy1 |
reactor: https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/pull/122 |
| 10:48 |
reactor |
Eh? |
| 10:48 |
cy1 |
c: hope it gets pulled. |
| 10:48 |
cy1 |
It makes mesecons work for glass doors, like it does for wood and steel ones. |
| 10:49 |
reactor |
Oh, good. |
| 10:49 |
reactor |
But how about the double-door rotation problem? |
| 10:49 |
reactor |
Does it address it |
| 10:49 |
cy1 |
also removes a lot of hacky hardcoded sheist |
| 10:49 |
reactor |
s/$/?/ |
| 10:49 |
cy1 |
I got double doors working just fine, reactor. Just put a not gate facing the one that appears to open when power is taken away. |
| 10:50 |
cy1 |
recipe = con | torch | con |
| 10:50 |
reactor |
that'd prevent me from using pressure plate as doormat |
| 10:51 |
cy1 |
...oh |
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cy1 |
huh, well maybe VanessaE's homedecor mod has a clue how to trick doors into swapping open and closed states for right-facing-ones. |
| 10:52 |
reactor |
yep |
| 10:52 |
VanessaE |
yeah, they're sorta hard-coded :P |
| 10:52 |
VanessaE |
I kinda brute-forced it |
| 10:52 |
reactor |
why don't these doors face automatically like the usual ones? |
| 10:52 |
cy1 |
shouldn't be hard to abstract out though. just swap b_1 and b_2 node defs. |
| 10:52 |
VanessaE |
because I never added the necessary code to do that |
| 10:53 |
VanessaE |
reactor: pull requests welcome : |
| 10:53 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 10:53 |
cy1 |
minetest doors never face automatically reactor. |
| 10:53 |
cy1 |
Not even the wood ones. |
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| 10:53 |
reactor |
mk |
| 10:53 |
reactor |
I wish I knew LUA. |
| 10:53 |
cy1 |
It wouldn't be impossible to implement, but hasn't been done yet. |
| 10:53 |
reactor |
s/knew/had known/ |
| 10:54 |
reactor |
cy1: don't they? |
| 10:54 |
reactor |
cy1: they do |
| 10:54 |
cy1 |
? |
| 10:54 |
reactor |
depending on player rotation, and doors already existing next to them |
| 10:54 |
reactor |
no? |
| 10:54 |
reactor |
Or I'm not getting the terminology right. |
| 10:56 |
germa |
why? why? my friend can't connect my "server"? why? im unlucky player |
| 10:57 |
germa |
another good boy from here can connect.. but my friends no... the computers are bad |
| 10:57 |
cy1 |
Huh, so they do. VanessaE, you should use the doors mod! I think it does that auto-orient thing. |
| 10:57 |
reactor |
germa: ? |
| 10:57 |
reactor |
germa: what OS? |
| 10:57 |
VanessaE |
meh |
| 10:57 |
reactor |
You should probably use a quality, well-supported OS, germa. |
| 10:57 |
germa |
i have lubuntu and my friends windows |
| 10:58 |
reactor |
That. Ubuntu is neither quality nor well-supported. |
| 10:58 |
reactor |
Let alone windows. |
| 10:58 |
VanessaE |
unlike the default doors mod, mine has separate images for left/right so that the shadowing doesn't get mirrored. |
| 10:58 |
reactor |
Slap your friends for being slobs. |
| 10:58 |
reactor |
And tell them they should compile the latest version. |
| 10:59 |
germa |
:) |
| 10:59 |
reactor |
Version incompatibility, probably. |
| 10:59 |
reactor |
You could at least convice them to dual-boot with some nice OS. |
| 10:59 |
reactor |
john_minetest: but it's fun. |
| 10:59 |
germa |
my friend try to convice me |
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cy1 |
pth, Ubuntu is fine |
| 11:00 |
germa |
ubuntu is fine... im not fine |
| 11:00 |
reactor |
oh yeah, falling apart after every update is so fine, cy1! |
| 11:00 |
cy1 |
but yeah, different versions of minetest = problems |
| 11:00 |
cy1 |
reactor: How dare you try to customize your toolbar, you Gnome hater! |
| 11:00 |
reactor |
john_minetest: what's wrong about paying for it? |
| 11:00 |
germa |
yes maybe is the version |
| 11:01 |
reactor |
cy1: ? |
| 11:01 |
reactor |
cy1: I don't use any toolbars, fyi. |
| 11:01 |
reactor |
They're schtupid. |
| 11:01 |
cy1 |
reactor: Just stirring the pot. |
| 11:01 |
germa |
i have g382... and my friends 382... without the "g" |
| 11:01 |
reactor |
cy1: oh. Whatever is cooking is ready. |
| 11:02 |
* reactor |
pours some neurotoxin on cy1. There you are. |
| 11:02 |
cy1 |
BSD a german association of people owning whorehouses, should be free! *marches on Dusseldorf* |
| 11:02 |
reactor |
john_minetest: whores are honest. |
| 11:02 |
reactor |
You pay - you do them. |
| 11:03 |
cy1 |
You know what they say. |
| 11:03 |
reactor |
That, too. |
| 11:03 |
cy1 |
There are two kinds of women in the world. Whores, and liars. |
| 11:04 |
reactor |
But let's stop this cynical conversation. |
| 11:04 |
cy1 |
<3 |
| 11:04 |
reactor |
For people don't like cynical people for some reason. |
| 11:05 |
cy1 |
gee go figure |
| 11:22 |
reactor |
? |
| 11:22 |
reactor |
john_minetest: facility? |
| 11:23 |
reactor |
mk |
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pitriss |
please is there any way how to configure server to automatically remove dropped items after some time? |
| 11:52 |
reactor |
hmm |
| 11:53 |
reactor |
Is there still no remote console? |
| 11:53 |
nore |
you should try PilzAdam's item_drop mod |
| 11:53 |
reactor |
That's frustrating. If there was, there would be a way. |
| 11:53 |
nore |
and modify it so it does not drop items |
| 11:53 |
reactor |
You would be able to set cron to issue commands. |
| 11:54 |
pitriss |
nore: hmm hmm i will look at it.. |
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Evergreen |
Hey everyone |
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Evergreen |
Oh hi there AspireMint! Long time no see |
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nore |
hi Evergreen |
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AspireMint |
Hello Evergreen :) |
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reactor |
o/ AspieMan |
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Jordach |
hey Evergreen |
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Jordach |
i ain't here today, and for most of tomorroqw |
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Jordach |
tomorrow* |
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Jordach |
but, afaik, the world is pretty much 1.0 |
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reactor |
Evergreen: chainsaw? |
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Jordach |
(we need to lower the mese and diamond count!) |
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Evergreen |
Yes |
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Evergreen |
Yes to Jordach, not reactor |
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Jordach |
and the mese |
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reactor |
Evergreen: nobody's asking you. It's a statement. |
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* reactor |
cranks it up |
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reactor |
? |
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IceCraft |
hi |
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harrison |
sauce for the hoss, gruel for the mule |
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reactor |
hoes? |
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Exio4 |
i'll need to work or so :( |
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harrison |
A mysterious syndicate of radical cinelerrists. |
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reactor |
SPA simulator? |
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reactor |
I've never understood what "SPA" means. |
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reactor |
I mean, the ?medical procedure. |
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reactor |
Pseudo-medical, rather. |
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reactor |
Snake oil. |
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harrison |
or snake coil? |
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reactor |
Snake soil, I mean, turd. |
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reactor |
Oh. |
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reactor |
Mk. |
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reactor |
Dr. Evil is from Belgium. |
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sfan5 |
finally |
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sfan5 |
frash xubuntu 13.10 install |
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reactor |
Ubuntu... |
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sfan5 |
fresh* |
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sfan5 |
reactor: at least not unity |
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reactor |
Mkay. |
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reactor |
I wonder how people manage to run Ubuntu without it breaking after update. |
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reactor |
Debina, in general. |
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reactor |
s/ina/ian/ |
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stormchaser3000 |
hi |
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Ditti |
reactor: that's pretty easy - just don't screw up the dependencies :D |
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reactor |
A friend of mine always gets his video login killed after update. |
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Ditti |
not bad, haven't managed to do this yet :D |
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reactor |
I mean, the whole X11 stops working. |
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reactor |
Yes, there is text login as well. |
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reactor |
Well. I prefer video. |
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reactor |
Because it saves time. |
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reactor |
1) you don't have to exit X to change user |
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Exio4 |
that is DE-dependant, lets say |
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Exio4 |
and you can have multiple TTYs |
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reactor |
2) it starts X _before_ you decide to login, thus saving you time waiting for startx |
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reactor |
Who cares about console terminals, Exio4, you can't do much work there. |
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Ditti |
well, that's wrong, reactor. |
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reactor |
Exio4: I use X mainly as a terminal multiplexor, though. |
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Exio4 |
reactor: your cpu must be crappy, even my netbook can start X11 in less than one second |
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harrison |
john_minetest: it must have been someone very special, don't you think? |
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harrison |
i mean, |
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harrison |
obv |
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Exio4 |
reactor: my only usage of X11 is web browsing and games |
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reactor |
I rely on copypaste. |
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reactor |
And I need to see more than one terminal sometimes. |
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harrison |
not bug. feature. deliberate |
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reactor |
Besides, it would be tricky to make the system have, say, 30 console TTYs. |
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harrison |
The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly. |
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Ditti |
why would anyone need 30 console windows? :D |
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reactor |
john_minetest: ? |
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reactor |
john_minetest: I usually leave the system alone to boot. |
| 14:28 |
reactor |
john_minetest: because heck, I could teleport to the kitchen to drink water and back while it does. |
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Exio4 |
reactor: tmux/screen |
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reactor |
Exio4: I need to browse periodically. |
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Exio4 |
without KMS, i way prefer X11 alone |
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reactor |
Exio4: and how about GNUPLOT in tmux? |
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harrison |
xmonad4lyfe |
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Exio4 |
you don't have to kill X11 to work on a tty |
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reactor |
john_minetest: what? |
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Ditti |
john: you need to login to use startx, don't you? |
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reactor |
john_minetest: 1) it spares you a tty 2) you don't have to wait for X11 to start every time you log in. |
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Exio4 |
what LM do you use? |
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* Exio4 |
uses dwm :P |
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reactor |
You must have too much spare time. |
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reactor |
Proper stuff can be done in a good X setup. |
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Ditti |
you don't care about 5 seconds but 15 seconds are way too much? |
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reactor |
And that. |
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reactor |
You just need a better window manager, john_minetest. |
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reactor |
You're probably using some mouse-reliant one. |
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reactor |
How come you need console? |
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nore |
I use i3 ;) |
| 14:34 |
reactor |
You can spawn lots of terminals. |
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reactor |
Without ever needing to move the ugly rodent. |
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reactor |
GNU screen does. |
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harrison |
john_minetest: i sometimes need to use xfce because cinelerra and xmonad seem not to mix -- i don't use a custom xmonad at all -- so another tiling wm might work as well |
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reactor |
Also, what do you use GNU Screen for, john_minetest? |
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Exio4 |
detaching/attaching back |
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reactor |
It's often misused to spawn daemons. |
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Exio4 |
john_minetest: it works in X11 |
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reactor |
While that should be done via rc scripts. |
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Exio4 |
reactor: my irc client runs in a screen session |
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harrison |
the only advantage of another tiling wm would be that xmonad needs all the haskell packages |
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reactor |
Exio4: good. |
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harrison |
why not use quassel instead of irc client + screen? |
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Exio4 |
harrison: haskell is awesome, enough reasons to use xmonad? :D |
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reactor |
Quassel? |
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Exio4 |
because quassel is shit harrison |
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Ditti |
http://quassel-irc.org iirc |
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Exio4 |
weechat > quassel |
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reactor |
Isn't quassel graphical? |
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Ditti |
it is |
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harrison |
well, i thought so, but i have not actually coded in haskell yet |
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reactor |
And GUI is the last thing IRC needs. |
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reactor |
So it's crap. |
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harrison |
no ur |
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reactor |
s/ful/less/ |
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Exio4 |
tell me how they are useful |
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Exio4 |
and i'll give you a pony |
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reactor |
Exactly. |
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Ditti |
did you just change the roles, john and reactor? :D |
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reactor |
Ditti: ? |
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Exio4 |
lol Ditti |
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reactor |
Ditti: what roles?! |
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Exio4 |
john_minetest: why? |
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Ditti |
reactor: you were defending X some seconds ago and now john defends GUIs for IRC :D |
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harrison |
the pony talk makes you seem like you might be a brony Exio4 |
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reactor |
No. |
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reactor |
X != GUI. |
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reactor |
Heck, Ditti, I've already said I use X as a terminal muxor. |
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Exio4 |
harrison: i'm not a fan of my little pony |
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Exio4 |
multiplexor |
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Ditti |
i'm sorry :c |
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* Exio4 |
multiplexes reactor |
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reactor |
harrison: john_minetest is. |
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harrison |
omg no! |
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* reactor |
demultiplexes Exio4. |
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* harrison |
flinches in horror |
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Exio4 |
http://imgur.com/gallery/fZ21pcz |
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reactor |
harrison: would you like to talk about it? |
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Exio4 |
john_minetest: when i'm pinged in channel "31" (minetest-dev here), i can just do alt-j31 and switch to it, or use a script like buffers.pl, normally used with weechat, for switching using the mouse within a X11 terminal and shits |
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Exio4 |
you can even drag&drop buffers to reorganize with its mouse support... |
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harrison |
too soon reactor -- this whole brony trip is like freaking me out |
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reactor |
harrison: would you like to talk about this problem? |
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reactor |
I mean, eh. I'm interested in understanding _their_ problem. |
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harrison |
http://archive.is/m2mAf |
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reactor |
? |
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reactor |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
reactor: pr/2012-01-24-gnaa-brony – GNAA – Gay Nigger Association of America |
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reactor |
And? |
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harrison |
the gnaa is opposed to bronyism |
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harrison |
just saying |
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markveidemanis |
Hi |
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reactor |
markveidemanis: o/ |
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harrison |
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/10/25/secret-google-facility-found-floating-on-san-francisco-bay/ |
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harrison |
not really. it appears to be a poorly thought out attempt at a floating google glass store. |
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reactor |
rsiska: where's lsiska? |
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reactor |
Mastectomy? |
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hoodedice |
Anyone? |
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reactor |
? |
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markveidemanis |
Is there a such thing as an arduino-with-screen but programmable with pythoN? |
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markveidemanis |
Like a neat laptop |
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markveidemanis |
But small |
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hoodedice |
No, but you can get a screen seperately |
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stormchaser3000 |
oh and mark i can not get on our android serer |
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markveidemanis |
I mean like a err... one of those old ones |
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markveidemanis |
but smaller |
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markveidemanis |
i want an input, a screen and an external interface |
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hoodedice |
I would prefer a raspi with 2 GB RAM, Adreno 305 and a 2.3 GHz Quad core processor |
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markveidemanis |
I prefer ...fucking hell... |
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markveidemanis |
i prefer not plugging it in |
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hoodedice |
I heard the latest Snapdragon's got 2.3 GHz |
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markveidemanis |
Ive got a computer |
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reactor |
I prefer not fucking the hell. |
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markveidemanis |
Same |
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reactor |
Because if hell fucks you, what are you gonna do? |
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hoodedice |
Me too ^.^ |
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hoodedice |
hel''s got a genital? |
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markveidemanis |
Im gonna do anal to the devil if it dares |
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markveidemanis |
Anyway the budget's about £30 |
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hoodedice |
And get that pointy thing in your face? |
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markveidemanis |
50 MAX |
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hoodedice |
Ewww |
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markveidemanis |
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?sa=X&rlz=1C1MSIM_enGB549GB549&espv=210&es_sm=93&biw=1366&bih=667&tbm=isch&tbnid=LnrouwsLYq2uZM:&imgrefurl=http://www.tomsguide.com/us/is-toshiba-u100-s213-the-ultra-lightweight-laptop-champ,review-630.html&docid=p1d4Sjyf8aETIM&imgurl=http://img.tomshardware.com/us/2006/01/25/is_toshiba_u100_s213_the_ultra_lightweight_laptop_champ/toshiba_libretto_u100_s213_opening_ |
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markveidemanis |
shot.jpg&w=425&h=403&ei=ZOVrUv_LGdOqhAemrYHACA&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:12,s:0,i:118&iact=rc&page=1&tbnh=187&tbnw=193&start=0&ndsp=17&tx=142&ty=96 |
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markveidemanis |
Thats one link |
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hoodedice |
I never really got the thing about arduino |
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markveidemanis |
let me use goo.gl... |
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reactor |
Meh, I would trade myself to the devil if it existed. I would buy immortality, hence I would never die, and never serve it anyway. |
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markveidemanis |
http://img.tomshardware.com/us/2006/01/25/is_toshiba_u100_s213_the_ultra_lightweight_laptop_champ/toshiba_libretto_u100_s213_opening_shot.jpg |
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markveidemanis |
screw it |
| 15:54 |
hoodedice |
How much is 50 of that money in USD? |
| 15:54 |
markveidemanis |
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/da/Small_Fujitsu_Lifebook_810U_Laptop.jpg |
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markveidemanis |
combine them and boom! |
| 15:54 |
markveidemanis |
you're done |
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markveidemanis |
I bet it costs a fortune though |
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hoodedice |
The Open Pandora is good |
| 15:55 |
hoodedice |
But costs like, hell |
| 15:55 |
hoodedice |
https://www.dragonbox.de/en/27-main-consoles-and-upgrades |
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Calinou |
<hoodedice> I heard the latest Snapdragon's got 2.3 GHz |
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Calinou |
frequency != performance |
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Calinou |
the Snapdragon 800 is fast... for an ARM CPU |
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sfan5 |
wtf xubuntu |
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Calinou |
it won't beat a celeron G1610 :p |
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hoodedice |
hmm |
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markveidemanis |
I have 2 cores with 3GHz each, im happy. |
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reactor |
sfan5: you should have said that some years ago. |
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Calinou |
markveidemanis: same, doesn't mean anything :P |
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markveidemanis |
4GB rajm |
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reactor |
rajm |
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markveidemanis |
*RAM |
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markveidemanis |
I think i will switch to xubuntu |
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sfan5 |
xubuntu kills the networking when it goes to standby |
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reactor |
markveidemanis: do not. |
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markveidemanis |
If i can get the fucker to work |
| 15:57 |
reactor |
markveidemanis: use BSD. |
| 15:57 |
markveidemanis |
il give it a go... |
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markveidemanis |
TP-LINK TL-WDN3200 it needs to work with |
| 15:57 |
reactor |
s/use/try/ |
| 15:57 |
reactor |
At least try it. |
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markveidemanis |
freebsd. |
| 15:58 |
reactor |
If you don't like it, you will at least have right to say it's crap etc. |
| 15:58 |
reactor |
Yes, freebsd would be suitable. |
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markveidemanis |
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SainSmart-LCD-1602-Keypad-Shield-For-Arduino-Due-Duemilanove-UNO-R3-Mega2560-R3-/300998780526?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item4614ece66e |
| 15:59 |
reactor |
NetBSD and OpenBSD don't support graphics, afaik. |
| 15:59 |
markveidemanis |
sort of like this im looking for |
| 15:59 |
reactor |
s/graphics/3D graphics/ |
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markveidemanis |
but with a keyboard instead of bumb buttons |
| 15:59 |
reactor |
Eh? |
| 15:59 |
reactor |
Gentoo is not. |
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reactor |
It's for ricers. |
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markveidemanis |
bsd...2.4GB... |
| 16:00 |
markveidemanis |
Later |
| 16:00 |
reactor |
...that only brag about perceived performance etc. |
| 16:00 |
reactor |
markveidemanis: what, the FreeBSD distribution is not bigger than 700M |
| 16:00 |
markveidemanis |
.. |
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markveidemanis |
gentoo for arm> |
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reactor |
john_minetest: no, people who sit all night to set up compilter flags to push last 1% of performance out of them |
| 16:01 |
reactor |
It is. |
| 16:01 |
reactor |
But not 0.000001% |
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Calinou |
<sfan5> xubuntu kills the networking when it goes to standby |
| 16:02 |
Calinou |
on my netbook I suspended by mistake, I resumed, network works |
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Calinou |
13.10 |
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Calinou |
wireless used is atheros |
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sfan5 |
same version and wireless |
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sfan5 |
it disabled networking but won't enable it again |
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reactor |
OldCoder: you're old. |
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Calinou |
try enabling it using hardware switch or key combination |
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sfan5 |
I don't have hardware switch |
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Calinou |
tell them they're young then |
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reactor |
OldCoder: you're young. |
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VanessaE |
hi all |
| 16:04 |
reactor |
Well, you will be. If you upgrade to NewCoder, OldCoder. |
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OldCoder |
Hi! |
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OldCoder |
reactor, I like you |
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reactor |
Thank you. |
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OldCoder |
john_minetest, VanessaE, others my life remains in transition. I must work the next 32 hours without a break. But I do love this project and will make things work again. |
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VanessaE |
take your time, OC. |
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OldCoder |
This is a perfect example of a potential FOSS success story |
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OldCoder |
mrtux, Good morning |
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germa |
hi |
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sfan5 |
morning? It is 18:08 for me |
| 16:09 |
reactor |
Mowing. |
| 16:09 |
sfan5 |
lol @ http://0hgame.eu/ |
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germa |
for me to... is 18:09 |
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* sfan5 |
needs an idea |
| 16:12 |
germa |
can i have the same latest build for lubuntu? http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/ |
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sfan5 |
germa: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3837 |
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germa |
thank you sfan... i have this... ahah i think have problem of compatibilty for multiplayer with my friends |
| 16:16 |
germa |
no way for me... ahah give up... i lose |
| 16:16 |
sfan5 |
soundcloud is broken again |
| 16:16 |
Calinou |
moreblocks update is out |
| 16:17 |
VanessaE |
yay! |
| 16:18 |
Calinou |
I added 14/16 and 15/16 slabs too |
| 16:18 |
Calinou |
and reorganized circular saw |
| 16:18 |
germa |
i use soundcloud with firefox and play |
| 16:19 |
harrison |
VanessaE: i saw your creative server the other day. i particularly enjoyed the lilypads. |
| 16:19 |
fairiestoy |
A european evening. A question please: In which cases can minetest.get_craft_result({method = "fuel", width = 1, items = fuellist}) fail means i get not result.item reference? |
| 16:19 |
VanessaE |
harrison: thanks :) |
| 16:20 |
harrison |
are they your innovation? |
| 16:20 |
VanessaE |
nope |
| 16:20 |
Calinou |
here's an open box: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82342922/temp/screenshot_4119867100.png |
| 16:20 |
VanessaE |
originally ironzorg's work |
| 16:21 |
VanessaE |
I expanded them to use facedir and have 16 possible orientations, and made them use plants_lib, then Mossmanikin (or maybe it was Neuromancer) made better textures for them |
| 16:21 |
harrison |
so you are sort of a coder! |
| 16:22 |
harrison |
all lua i suppose |
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harrison |
pardon the exclamation point |
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| 16:25 |
VanessaE |
me? very much so |
| 16:25 |
VanessaE |
but not all in Lua. |
| 16:26 |
VanessaE |
started with BASIC, then 6502 assembly, dabbled in C and C++, verilog, python, bash, Lua,... |
| 16:26 |
VanessaE |
a tad of javascript, and HTML if you count that. |
| 16:27 |
nore |
Calinou, for moreblocks I have a suggestion |
| 16:28 |
harrison |
I have heard of the lady coder, but only in the same way that one hears of the unicorn |
| 16:28 |
VanessaE |
harrison: yes, we actually do exist :) |
| 16:28 |
harrison |
or other possibly apocryphal, shining thing |
| 16:28 |
nore |
make some raytracing to that you can place a microblock on a slab, for example, and get a new block |
| 16:28 |
VanessaE |
I just don't do as much coding as I used to. kinda burnt out |
| 16:28 |
nore |
instead of having to make them all with circular saw |
| 16:29 |
harrison |
Attached to neither compilation nor execution, the enlightened coder flows through the keyboard |
| 16:30 |
harrison |
it is attachment that causes burnout |
| 16:32 |
Calinou |
is that even possible? |
| 16:32 |
Calinou |
I'm not really a coder, so no idea how to do that |
| 16:33 |
nore |
Calinou, yes it is |
| 16:33 |
nore |
using item on_place |
| 16:33 |
nore |
and then player:get_look_dir() |
| 16:34 |
nore |
after that, trace a ray to the 3 different planed |
| 16:34 |
nore |
look where it intersects |
| 16:34 |
nore |
and place a microblock there |
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| 16:38 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: um, bug... |
| 16:38 |
VanessaE |
did you change something that breaks the stairsplus API? |
| 16:39 |
VanessaE |
digging wool quarter slabs now gives unknown items |
| 16:39 |
harrison |
is block splitting to microblock recursive? |
| 16:39 |
VanessaE |
(wool stuff is in gloopblocks) |
| 16:39 |
VanessaE |
harrison: no |
| 16:39 |
harrison |
it could be..... |
| 16:40 |
nore |
not without entities |
| 16:41 |
harrison |
VanessaE, I know you have seen some of my films of the raytracer, but did you ever see any of the hybrid renderer which traces rays to find blocks and opengl to draw them? |
| 16:41 |
VanessaE |
I don't recall seeing that, no |
| 16:42 |
harrison |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YZjIZGl0yE |
| 16:43 |
harrison |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3rPAx4kEe4 |
| 16:43 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: no? |
| 16:43 |
Calinou |
the new slabs drop themselves by the way |
| 16:43 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: come to my creative server |
| 16:43 |
VanessaE |
so I can show you |
| 16:43 |
Calinou |
no items were renamed |
| 16:43 |
Calinou |
ok |
| 16:43 |
harrison |
it worked well -- but i got depressed not working on the real tracer, which can do mirrors and much more |
| 16:44 |
harrison |
i don't think anyone else has ever made a hybrid renderer |
| 16:44 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: 12:44:49: ACTION[ServerThread]: VanessaEzekowitz digs wool:slab_white_quarter at (-295,18,-373) |
| 16:44 |
VanessaE |
give an unknown item. |
| 16:45 |
VanessaE |
AH= |
| 16:45 |
harrison |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xkMuqMb32M |
| 16:45 |
VanessaE |
you went with numbers instead of words |
| 16:45 |
Calinou |
yes |
| 16:45 |
VanessaE |
12:45:27: ACTION[ServerThread]: VanessaEzekowitz digs wool:slab_white_1 at (-295,18,-373) |
| 16:45 |
VanessaE |
<--- 1/16 slab of the same material |
| 16:45 |
VanessaE |
so you just need some alises |
| 16:45 |
Calinou |
should have done that since the beginning |
| 16:45 |
VanessaE |
aliases |
| 16:45 |
Calinou |
not going to rename current slabs, too much pain I guess |
| 16:45 |
Calinou |
(maybe it's easier since they already use 6d facedir) |
| 16:45 |
VanessaE |
actually, you kinda did. :) |
| 16:46 |
Calinou |
only the new ones were renamed |
| 16:46 |
VanessaE |
the mod that provides those wool slabs predates the 1/16 slab change |
| 16:46 |
VanessaE |
so just add some aliases for the previous slab sizes |
| 16:47 |
VanessaE |
I can do that for gloopblocks, but if you do it in moreblocks it'll cover all the mods that might run into that |
| 16:48 |
Calinou |
which aliases? |
| 16:48 |
Calinou |
I don't get it |
| 16:50 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: you're not dropping the item that's actually in the world |
| 16:50 |
VanessaE |
you're dropping the numbered version, which is not defined |
| 16:50 |
VanessaE |
come to where I am |
| 16:50 |
VanessaE |
(the black brick building north of the spawn) |
| 16:53 |
Calinou |
ok |
| 16:54 |
VanessaE |
dig a ceiling wool slab |
| 16:54 |
VanessaE |
ok, try one of the streets sidewalks |
| 16:57 |
VanessaE |
12:57:26: ACTION[ServerThread]: Calinou digs wool:slab_white_quarter at (-311,17,-407) |
| 16:58 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: here's the loop that handles the wool slabs in gloopblocks, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6307401/ |
| 16:59 |
Calinou |
:/ |
| 16:59 |
VanessaE |
did I bwoke it? :) |
| 17:00 |
Calinou |
don't know |
| 17:22 |
nore |
hey, for the workbenches mods: has anyone ever tried that: https://gist.github.com/Novatux/7172171 |
| 17:23 |
nore |
work very good for me! |
| 17:23 |
nore |
+s |
| 17:23 |
nore |
no lag, no problem with it being the same as player inventory |
| 17:23 |
nore |
is short: perfect |
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nore |
VanessaE, did you see that? IIRC, you wanted a workbench in the default game... ^ |
| 17:27 |
nore |
hi rubenwardy |
| 17:27 |
rubenwardy |
Hi |
| 17:27 |
VanessaE |
nore: I think the default game needs 4x4 and 5x5 crafing tables like darkrose's workbench mod |
| 17:27 |
nore |
yes, see that for good workbenches |
| 17:27 |
VanessaE |
(I don't see any reason to separate the 3x3 grid out from the inventory, though) |
| 17:27 |
nore |
I've never seen some that fine |
| 17:28 |
nore |
you should test: no lag at all |
| 17:29 |
VanessaE |
where does this code go? |
| 17:29 |
rubenwardy |
..and Hi all! |
| 17:29 |
VanessaE |
hey rubenwardy |
| 17:29 |
nore |
you can take 20 items at once if you want, middle click works, etc |
| 17:29 |
VanessaE |
nore: I guess into a test mod? |
| 17:29 |
nore |
yes, of course |
| 17:29 |
nore |
and rename the workbench to something else |
| 17:29 |
VanessaE |
testing it... |
| 17:30 |
nore |
(what I really did was that I took a workbench mod and changed the code a bit) |
| 17:31 |
nore |
only problem is that when you craft something and then you can't craft it, the craft preview doesn't disappear immediately |
| 17:31 |
VanessaE |
it still lags a bit |
| 17:32 |
nore |
no more that normal crafting |
| 17:32 |
nore |
(except for the craftpreview to update) |
| 17:32 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 17:33 |
nore |
have you seen how it is done in the code? |
| 17:33 |
nore |
btw, with minetest.register_on_craft, I reckon it will be possible to update the craftpreview so there will be no lag |
| 17:33 |
VanessaE |
it looks like it lags quite a bit in singleplayer. maybe that's the "server" lagging the client. |
| 17:34 |
nore |
dunno, it does not lag for me |
| 17:34 |
nore |
rubenwardy, see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pulls/966 |
| 17:34 |
nore |
you might like it |
| 17:34 |
nore |
for your achievements mod |
| 17:34 |
VanessaE |
you have to try it with a heavily-game e.g. where there's a lot of mapgen stuff |
| 17:35 |
rubenwardy |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/966 |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE |
er heavily-modded game |
| 17:35 |
rubenwardy |
Awesome |
| 17:35 |
nore |
I tried that while there was no mapgen (because I had to try several times to get it correct) |
| 17:35 |
nore |
rubenwardy, thanks |
| 17:37 |
VanessaE |
at any rate, the default game needs 4x4 and 5x5 tables. |
| 17:37 |
VanessaE |
good recipes are getting harder and harder to make in 3x3 |
| 17:37 |
nore |
you should make a pull, with that code... |
| 17:37 |
VanessaE |
why? it'll just be ignored if I do it. |
| 17:37 |
VanessaE |
or it'll be marked as low-priority |
| 17:37 |
nore |
then why wouldn't it be if I do it? |
| 17:37 |
VanessaE |
the devs hate you less ;) |
| 17:38 |
nore |
low-priority is better than nothing |
| 17:38 |
VanessaE |
besides, it's your code :_) |
| 17:38 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 17:38 |
nore |
and you're the one that is in "contributors", not me |
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kaeza |
evenings |
| 18:38 |
VanessaE |
hi |
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reactor |
o/ |
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AspireMint |
Hello splash :) |
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splash |
Hi Aspire |
| 18:46 |
splash |
How's things? |
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reactor |
AspieMint |
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reactor |
hello |
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VanessaE |
hey A< |
| 18:50 |
VanessaE |
AM* |
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AspireMint |
Hello hello |
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ShadowNinja |
Regarding recipes: It seems the code only supports specific types like normal and fuel and doesn't allow you to make your own types. |
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ShadowNinja |
That might be usefull for things like the alloy furnace, crushing furnace, and similar nodes. |
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Dante123 |
Vanessa around? |
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sfan5 |
lol http://redd.it/1p9j9m |
| 20:54 |
VanessaE |
hi |
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Dante123 |
hi vanessaE, ive been trying to setup my server for student use (when I have had time on the weekends)...but it doesn;t work. Could it be that my "minetest.info.tm" ip link has expired? |
| 21:01 |
Dante123 |
If so, how do I go about setting it up again. I think you helped me originally, I don't remember the steps |
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sfan5 |
Dante123: which provider does minetest.info.tm use |
| 21:08 |
Dante123 |
could it be freedns or something like that? |
| 21:10 |
JackGruff |
>another joke about cats plotting to kill their owners |
| 21:10 |
JackGruff |
>original |
| 21:10 |
JackGruff |
pick one |
| 21:10 |
JackGruff |
;) |
| 21:12 |
VanessaE |
Dante123: are you sure the server itself world? |
| 21:12 |
VanessaE |
workd* |
| 21:12 |
VanessaE |
BAH |
| 21:12 |
VanessaE |
Dante123: are you sure the server itself works? |
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Dante_Clone |
on my other computer..... |
| 21:24 |
Dante_Clone |
where i have the script and server |
| 21:25 |
Dante_Clone |
minetest_dns_update_2 |
| 21:26 |
Dante_Clone |
looks like freedns is what I was using |
| 21:26 |
Exio4 |
oh god |
| 21:27 |
Dante123 |
Well, the server seems to be working....locally at least |
| 21:27 |
Dante123 |
im going back to the other pc and will start server again and see |
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VanessaE |
can your students reach it by its IP address? |
| 21:37 |
* NekoGloop |
curls up in VanessaE's lap |
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* john_minetest |
puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head |
| 21:44 |
Dante_Clone |
testing locally here first...... |
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* NekoGloop |
purrs |
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* sfan5 |
puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head |
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* NekoGloop |
ok now my head hurts owowowow |
| 21:51 |
* john_minetest |
takes a kitten away from NekoGloop's head and puts it on sfan5's head |
| 21:52 |
sfan5 |
meow |
| 21:52 |
* john_minetest |
purrs :3 |
| 21:52 |
Dante_Clone |
okay the server is working here locally |
| 21:52 |
Dante_Clone |
using 192.xx.xx.xx lan address |
| 21:54 |
Dante_Clone |
okay Vanessa it is telling me the server is down. So I run the minetest_dns_update script now |
| 21:54 |
VanessaE |
yesh |
| 21:54 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 21:55 |
VanessaE |
but remember that 192.xxxxx is not accessible to the outside world\ |
| 21:55 |
VanessaE |
only those on your LAN can see it |
| 21:55 |
Dante_Clone |
Yes, just wanted to be sure it was working here locally. |
| 21:55 |
VanessaE |
(well 192.168.xxx.xxx) |
| 21:55 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 21:55 |
VanessaE |
you just have to make sure you run that update script every so often |
| 21:55 |
Dante_Clone |
Now, in my router setup, I have put the server pc into DMZ |
| 21:55 |
VanessaE |
once a day is sufficient |
| 21:56 |
Dante_Clone |
but even after running the script, its still not working for outside connections. |
| 21:56 |
Dante_Clone |
!up minetest.info.tm |
| 21:56 |
MinetestBot |
minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down |
| 21:56 |
VanessaE |
it may take a few minutes or hours for it to update. |
| 21:56 |
Dante_Clone |
can I shoot you my script and you see if there appears to be something wrong ....I can use pastebin |
| 21:56 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 21:56 |
VanessaE |
your script probably has your access key |
| 21:57 |
Dante_Clone |
i guess I could let you try to connect directly if I gave you the ip.... |
| 21:57 |
VanessaE |
you don't wanna share that. |
| 21:57 |
Dante_Clone |
can we try that? |
| 21:57 |
VanessaE |
vanessa rainbird:~$ dig minetest.info.tm |
| 21:57 |
VanessaE |
[...] |
| 21:57 |
VanessaE |
minetest.info.tm.60INA24.231.73.100 |
| 21:57 |
VanessaE |
is that your IP? |
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| 22:00 |
VanessaE |
ok so yes, it is |
| 22:00 |
VanessaE |
that means your DNS record is correct |
| 22:00 |
VanessaE |
I can ping you also |
| 22:00 |
VanessaE |
so that means I can reach the machine that the IP points to. |
| 22:00 |
VanessaE |
now you just have to make sure your firewall lets port 30000 through to the server process |
| 22:01 |
VanessaE |
(and that the server is actually running ;) ) |
| 22:01 |
Dante_Clone |
well the server is up and running....im connected to it from two other pcs in my lan |
| 22:03 |
harrison |
http://sortocracy.org/jury-nullification-remediating-treason-against-the-people/ |
| 22:03 |
VanessaE |
ok, then you just have to port-forward on your firewall or router |
| 22:03 |
harrison |
Let us herewith establish an internet-based sovereign people’s jury consisting of identified (verified as registered voters) citizens wielding openly published, revocable proxies on specific resolutions, indictments, judgments and sentences. |
| 22:03 |
VanessaE |
harrison: stop. |
| 22:03 |
VanessaE |
REALLY OFF TOPIC. |
| 22:03 |
Dante_Clone |
my router has port filtering, forwarding and triggers. The trigger page says this: This page allows configuration of dynamic triggers to specific devices on the LAN. |
| 22:03 |
Dante_Clone |
This allows for special applications that require specific port numbers with |
| 22:03 |
Dante_Clone |
bi-directional traffic to function properly. Applications such as video conferencing, voice, |
| 22:03 |
Dante_Clone |
gaming, and some messenging program features may require these special settings. |
| 22:04 |
Dante_Clone |
should I try port triggers or forwarding |
| 22:04 |
Dante_Clone |
and do I do tcp, udp, both? |
| 22:04 |
VanessaE |
Dante_Clone: in this case I don't think a trigger is what you want, rather a full forwarding. Remember that you need to forward both UDP and TCP |
| 22:05 |
Dante_Clone |
VanessaE, if I have the server pc on DMZ, should't that let anything through without having to do port forwarding??? That how I have it right now. |
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VanessaE |
that I am not sure of, Dante |
| 22:06 |
VanessaE |
now are you sure it's using port 30000? |
| 22:06 |
VanessaE |
singleplayer I think tends to use 30011 or some such doesn't it? |
| 22:06 |
Dante_Clone |
!up minetest.info.tm |
| 22:06 |
MinetestBot |
minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down |
| 22:07 |
VanessaE |
I cannot reach that port at all |
| 22:07 |
Dante_Clone |
Its using port 30000 in the setup of the server under multiplayer |
| 22:07 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 22:08 |
VanessaE |
let's test something. Do you have any other services running? you can msg me if you prefer. Something I can attempt to connect to. |
| 22:10 |
Dante_Clone |
hmm...not really |
| 22:10 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 22:11 |
Dante_Clone |
is there something simple I can start (on Linux Mint 14) |
| 22:11 |
VanessaE |
maybe ssh |
| 22:11 |
VanessaE |
first thing that comes to mind, requires relatively little setup |
| 22:12 |
VanessaE |
and you can shut it down when you're done testing |
| 22:12 |
VanessaE |
but the fact that I can ping your machine at that IP is a good start |
| 22:12 |
Dante_Clone |
tell you what is weird, on my dhcp client list, the server address ip does not show up.....would having this server pc in dmz affedct that? Shouldn't it be in list? |
| 22:14 |
Dante_Clone |
i just disabled dmz |
| 22:14 |
Dante_Clone |
for now |
| 22:15 |
Dante_Clone |
just turned off firewall on linux mint too |
| 22:15 |
Dante_Clone |
althoug it was setup to allow incoming and outgoing |
| 22:15 |
Dante_Clone |
just trying to eliminate possible issues |
| 22:20 |
Evergreen |
Does anyone else like red eclipse? |
| 22:21 |
Dante_Clone |
!up minetest.info.tm |
| 22:21 |
MinetestBot |
minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down |
| 22:22 |
harrison |
based on cube 2 formerly sauerbraten |
| 22:22 |
harrison |
interesting engine |
| 22:22 |
harrison |
but it is an fps |
| 22:22 |
harrison |
so no |
| 22:22 |
harrison |
i don't like it |
| 22:22 |
NakedFury |
if it plays like Quake or super fast combat no. |
| 22:22 |
harrison |
in that i don't understand fps |
| 22:23 |
harrison |
also wouter has been snooty with me in the past |
| 22:23 |
NakedFury |
router? |
| 22:24 |
harrison |
wouter coded it, or the original |
| 22:24 |
harrison |
http://strlen.com/ |
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Peacock |
damn it's cold out, im pretty sure my balls were last seen retreating to Dunkirk XD |
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harrison |
Peacock, are you free? |
| 22:27 |
harrison |
This is london calling guvnor |
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Peacock |
This one is unsigned, and suggests that you do something physically impossible with the suggestion box. |
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Peacock |
sweet https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/967 |
| 22:31 |
RealBadAngel |
thats #967 in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jV7Oxw-IJo |
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Peacock |
saw it :-) question though, can i add more texturable objects in the sky? (ex, two suns, or two moons, twin planets, etc.), you could set the size and orbit_speed |
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NakedFury |
the youtube videos recommended while watching your video are full of cosmetic shits |
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Peacock |
maybe it's maybeline? |
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Peacock |
might need an offset too since you wouldn't want both suns to rise at the same time, hm |
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NakedFury |
second_sun_position: left/right offset_position: x #/y # |
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NakedFury |
something like that? |
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RealBadAngel |
such things like more objects should be rather added with c55's sky api |
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RealBadAngel |
hehe, hi |
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PilzAdam |
bye |
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Evergreen |
Hello sdzen |
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sdzen |
hello treeman |
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Peacock |
which one of paramats' mods is the asteroid field? |
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Dark_Soul |
hey guys i have a question, how do you set default items that a new person joining your server can start with? |
| 22:57 |
Peacock |
i think that's give_initial |
| 22:58 |
Peacock |
*give_initial_stuff mod |
| 22:58 |
Peacock |
its in minetest_game |
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Dark_Soul |
yes i have got that far but its just true or false but how do you set what items |
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Peacock |
give_initial_stuff/init.lua: |
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Peacock |
player:get_inventory():add_item('main', 'default:torch 99') |
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Dark_Soul |
hmm ok i will look there thanks for the help |
| 22:59 |
Peacock |
i dont see any true or false in there lol |
| 22:59 |
Peacock |
no prob |
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pitriss |
Peacock: i have this: if minetest.setting_getbool("give_initial_stuff") in technic game version of give_initial_stuff/init.lua |
| 23:01 |
Peacock |
well from what i understood he wanted to change the items, not disable or enable it, tho i could be wrong |
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dante123 |
!up minetest.info.tm |
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MinetestBot |
minetest.info.tm:30000 seems to be down |
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paramat |
Peacock, 'asteroid' mod heh |
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Peacock |
found it :P |
| 23:10 |
Peacock |
i need to lvm it, but looks good |
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dante123 |
Vanessa, try it now.....its up. There was all this port stuff setup....don't know if my kids did it or what....anyway cleared it all out and all is good now |
| 23:10 |
paramat |
cool |
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dante123 |
!up minetest.info.tm |
| 23:11 |
MinetestBot |
minetest.info.tm:30000 is up (300ms) |
| 23:14 |
dante123 |
can someone come into server just to test |
| 23:14 |
Peacock |
lol seriously, in singlenode? http://s10.postimg.org/8x86rmi49/screenshot_4144707363.png |
| 23:15 |
dante123 |
use minetest.info.tm |
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Peacock |
i checked way above, theres nothing that should be generating a shadow lol |
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paramat |
thats the LVM version? |
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VanessaE |
dante123: it works. |
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Peacock |
theres an asteroid lvm version? |
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paramat |
the usual shadow bug doesnt seem to be as big and dark as that ... |
| 23:25 |
paramat |
heh no for some reason i thought you had already converted it to LVM |
| 23:25 |
Peacock |
trying to, i just dont remember, which was the one i last converted? my mods folder has too much stuff in it lol |
| 23:26 |
paramat |
wheres my beautiful cometry atmosphere? ;) |
| 23:26 |
paramat |
um, moonrealm? |
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Peacock |
disabled it, it didn't render beautifully on my machine :/ |
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stormchaser3000 |
hi |
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Peacock |
dont have an lvm moonrealm in my folder, i do have paragen lvm thou |
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Peacock |
*though |
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Peacock |
nodeid = {} yeah thats the one |
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dante123 |
thanks. |
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dante123 |
vanessae |
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dante123 |
I kind of worry that maybe someone was messing with my router settings.....it could have been my 16 year old. When I cleared out all the port stuff, bingo it started working. |
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dante123 |
If it is my own kid that's fine.....just don't want someone from the outside hacking my router. It's a motorola. |
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stormchaser3000 |
wow |
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paramat |
Peacock paragen LVM probably has wrong use of the new perlin map functions |
| 23:33 |
Peacock |
yeah no the one i converted was based on the old |
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Peacock |
what about asteroids though? |
| 23:34 |
Jordach |
i think i know where minetest_game should develop (...ive been playing mc 360 bored shitless) |
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stormchaser3000 |
what chanel does irc on servers connect to |
| 23:35 |
paramat |
im still struggling with the new perlin functions, currently the fastest generation method forces a ZYX triple loop, but my mapgens require XZY loops: column by column and working down each column |
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paramat |
Hi J |
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paramat |
asteroids? you no find? |
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dante123 |
hi Jordach |
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Peacock |
well i wont try to tinker with asteroids perlin, im just trying to make an asteroid map from edge to edge to edge :-) |
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paramat |
... so im asking hm-mm for a specially packed perlin map for XZY loops |
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sfan5 |
!seen dysoco |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen dysoco around. |
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* sfan5 |
is tired |
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dante123 |
okay, not that I have my server up and actually working.....what is the best way to make a map that is all one level...so my students can make it into the seven continents and oceans |
| 23:38 |
Peacock |
as soon as this skybox stuff is pulled ill be able to use a nice nebulae background for it too |
| 23:39 |
Peacock |
the fun part will be coming up with future-tech |
| 23:39 |
Peacock |
wireless energy, replicators/3d printers and such |
| 23:40 |
dante123 |
running 0.4.7 do I need the dev version to do worldedit stuff? |
| 23:40 |
sfan5 |
dante123: yes |
| 23:41 |
Peacock |
jesus Nixo (1995) is one helluva long movie lol |
| 23:41 |
Peacock |
*Nixon |
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paramat |
P, so you want to disable comets? |
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dante123 |
okay....someone here gave me a link that had the latest etc. im on linux...ubuntu 13.10\ |
| 23:41 |
Peacock |
naw i just disabled the atmos nodes |
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dante123 |
anyone know the link offhand.... |
| 23:41 |
Peacock |
comets and asteroids are fine |
| 23:42 |
sfan5 |
dante123: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3837 |
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dante123 |
thanks sfan5 |
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paramat |
Jordach, where? the devs were discussing this today. celeron55 prefers no development of MTgame and multiple new games |
| 23:47 |
dante123 |
sfan5 do you recommend the portable install if there is a chance I may want to move this install to a computer at school eventually??? |
| 23:47 |
sfan5 |
portable |
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dante123 |
then it would be just moving one folder with everything in it right? |
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sfan5 |
yp |
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sfan5 |
yep* |
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dante123 |
thanks sfan5 |
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paramat |
a comet with atmosphere http://i.imgur.com/wzbADkE.png |
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harrison |
I thought of a great title for a autobiography: Cleanup on Aisle 666 |
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dante123 |
Okay, so if I want to build a flat world....where the students can then carve out the oceans and add to the continents.....do I do this with singlenode or what? |
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Exio4 |
a flat world? |
| 23:58 |
Exio4 |
you can use the flat mapgen, with disabled stuff |
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Exio4 |
er |
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Exio4 |
v6 + flat |
