| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:02 |
* dafull97 |
is upset |
| 00:02 |
dafull97 |
LOL |
| 00:03 |
dafull97 |
Menche, ^ |
| 00:04 |
* kaeza |
puts a pony on princess Exio4's head |
| 00:05 |
Menche |
it works for me |
| 00:05 |
Menche |
did you get it from github? |
| 00:05 |
dafull97 |
let me clear cache |
| 00:06 |
dafull97 |
get? |
| 00:06 |
Menche |
when i first cloned the repo, i had 0gb.us_game/0gb.us_game/ |
| 00:06 |
Menche |
(it was nested inside another folder |
| 00:06 |
Menche |
) |
| 00:06 |
dafull97 |
and how clear cache on minetest in Xubuntu |
| 00:06 |
dafull97 |
yes i know |
| 00:06 |
Menche |
rm -r ~/.minetest/cache |
| 00:06 |
dafull97 |
i has been working for nearly a week |
| 00:07 |
Menche |
does the exact path "~/.minetest/games/0gb.us_game/game.conf" exist? |
| 00:07 |
dafull97 |
it* |
| 00:08 |
dafull97 |
yes, but i aint using it right now |
| 00:08 |
dafull97 |
mope still nothing for me |
| 00:10 |
Menche |
i made a world with 0gb.us_game and it worked. i edited world.mt and changed the gameid to 'minetest' and it still worked. |
| 00:10 |
Menche |
not sure what's wrong on your machine |
| 00:10 |
dafull97 |
idk, its being retarded... ahha |
| 00:10 |
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| 00:11 |
Menche |
minetest is finally running at a playable fps |
| 00:12 |
Menche |
like 15-20 |
| 00:12 |
dafull97 |
LOL... |
| 00:12 |
dafull97 |
dang,,] |
| 00:13 |
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| 00:13 |
Menche |
i have 752M of ram! |
| 00:14 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:14 |
dafull97 |
what is your graphic settings? |
| 00:14 |
Menche |
dafull97: pretty much the lowest possible |
| 00:14 |
dafull97 |
depends what kind of information it contains |
| 00:14 |
* prestotron55 |
has 16GB of RAM |
| 00:14 |
* dafull97 |
has 2gb ram :/ |
| 00:14 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:15 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:15 |
dafull97 |
where they release to? |
| 00:16 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:16 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:16 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:16 |
dafull97 |
what is your relation to you? |
| 00:17 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:18 |
codehero |
hmmmm. i just can't make the spawn rate of simplemobs go higher |
| 00:18 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:19 |
Menche |
lol, to get the source code you have to email them telling why you want it?? |
| 00:19 |
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| 00:19 |
PilzAdam |
codehero, higher? isnt it high enough already? |
| 00:19 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:19 |
Menche |
is crevis still based on minetest? it doens't say so |
| 00:20 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:20 |
Menche |
the code... it looks like i'd have to email them to get it |
| 00:20 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:20 |
codehero |
PilzAdam> nope. there are so few mobs |
| 00:20 |
Menche |
it doesn't appear to say it is based on minetest |
| 00:20 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:20 |
codehero |
you don't even have to build a house to survive |
| 00:21 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:22 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:22 |
PilzAdam |
codehero, the 5th paramter of the register_spawn() calls is the inversed chance; decrease that |
| 00:22 |
Menche |
lol, mediafire had a combination advertisement/captcha |
| 00:22 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:22 |
Menche |
and credit to minetest seems scarce |
| 00:23 |
dafull97 |
prestotron55 i dont see any adresses here |
| 00:23 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:23 |
dafull97 |
that was only hope, other than that you are screwed, freedom of press |
| 00:24 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:24 |
Menche |
"Crevis is a sandbox indie game that was started in 2005 by Niften" <-- ? |
| 00:24 |
codehero |
ahhhhhhh. you have to decrease it |
| 00:24 |
codehero |
thank you ^^ |
| 00:24 |
PilzAdam |
Menche, I guess thats his date of birth... |
| 00:24 |
Menche |
so that's an outright lie? |
| 00:24 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:24 |
Menche |
lol |
| 00:25 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:25 |
* Evergreen |
peaks in |
| 00:25 |
Menche |
so he slightly modified minetest and came up with an entirely bogus development history that doesn't credit minetest at all? |
| 00:25 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:26 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:26 |
dafull97 |
prestotron55, still no address ;? |
| 00:26 |
Menche |
all you that what? |
| 00:26 |
thefamilygrog66 |
howdy folks |
| 00:26 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:26 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:26 |
thefamilygrog66 |
quick question: how many nodes in diameter should a beanstalk be? |
| 00:27 |
Menche |
...is crevis even legal? i know you can legally take the code and modify it, but they go beyond not giving credit |
| 00:27 |
Menche |
he states that he did it himself |
| 00:27 |
codehero |
be happy that he doesn't spam on your forums :P |
| 00:27 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:27 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:28 |
Menche |
...something has to be done about this |
| 00:28 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:28 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:28 |
PilzAdam |
its funny to watch the whole "company" coming here one after another and blaming the others |
| 00:29 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:29 |
PilzAdam |
"contributing to Minetest" {{cn}} |
| 00:29 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:30 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:30 |
dafull97 |
PilzAdam, i am glad you are here! Help? =D |
| 00:30 |
dafull97 |
prestotron55, they fired you |
| 00:31 |
dafull97 |
in the chat |
| 00:31 |
Menche |
lol, this build looks tacky |
| 00:31 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:31 |
dafull97 |
ok... |
| 00:31 |
prestotron55 |
[deleted] |
| 00:31 |
dafull97 |
for a couple |
| 00:31 |
Menche |
only windows, they left the cache and source in, the folder is named "Crevis # Source" |
| 00:32 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:32 |
dafull97 |
PilzAdam, i am glad you are here! Help? =D |
| 00:32 |
dafull97 |
**BE RIGHT BACK** |
| 00:33 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:33 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:33 |
Menche |
? |
| 00:33 |
Menche |
"Crevis # Source" is the name of the folder |
| 00:33 |
Menche |
everything is in there, including the cache and src |
| 00:34 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:34 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:34 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:34 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:34 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:34 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:34 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:35 |
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| 00:35 |
PilzAdam |
prestotron55, its enough now, stop being offtopic |
| 00:35 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:35 |
Menche |
PilzAdam, #minetest is offtopic 99.4% of the time, nothing new |
| 00:36 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:36 |
Menche |
this is more ontopic than other times |
| 00:36 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:36 |
Menche |
Crevis is based on minetest, so this is technically on-topic |
| 00:36 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:37 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:37 |
PilzAdam |
Menche, these kids fighting are getting bored |
| 00:37 |
PilzAdam |
*boring |
| 00:37 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:37 |
Menche |
is it any more boring than dead silence? |
| 00:37 |
werwerwer |
does Crevis sell their game? |
| 00:37 |
Menche |
werwerwer, no |
| 00:37 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:38 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:38 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:38 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I've added beanstalks to my magic beans mod, and currently they have a diameter of 7 nodes - is that too many, and if so, how many would you make it? GO! |
| 00:38 |
kaeza |
the problem is not selling; the problem is not providing source |
| 00:38 |
Menche |
they provide source |
| 00:38 |
PilzAdam |
Menche, I prefer silence |
| 00:38 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:39 |
kaeza |
(unless you use, -NC content; that is a problem) |
| 00:39 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:39 |
FreeFull |
Things are copyrighted by default |
| 00:39 |
PilzAdam |
that too |
| 00:39 |
Menche |
command for silence: /part #minetest |
| 00:39 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:39 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:39 |
FreeFull |
The copyrights for Minetest's parts will belong to everyone who made those parts unless transferred |
| 00:39 |
PilzAdam |
Menche, no, its !mute prestotron55 |
| 00:40 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:40 |
* thefamilygrog66 |
feels like he's being muted, ffs |
| 00:40 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:40 |
Menche |
minetest_game/mods/README.txt plainly sais that it's copyright to celeron55 |
| 00:40 |
Menche |
*says |
| 00:41 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Just looking for opinions... |
| 00:41 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:41 |
Menche |
regardless, i think it's wrong that they made up a bogus development history that makes them the main developers |
| 00:41 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:42 |
kaeza |
thefamilygrog66, that sounds a bit too big |
| 00:42 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Thanks! |
| 00:42 |
kaeza |
screenies? :3 |
| 00:42 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Sure, one sec... |
| 00:42 |
Menche |
i'd make a comment on the crevis forums, but they seem to be down... |
| 00:43 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:43 |
kaeza |
:I |
| 00:43 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:44 |
PilzAdam |
prestotron55, floatlands are builtin in the engine and maybe they used my nether mod |
| 00:44 |
kaeza |
so... release 2.5.0 and they are automatically more advanced than Minetest's 0.4.7? |
| 00:44 |
PilzAdam |
do you have screenshots of their "hell" |
| 00:44 |
kaeza |
wat |
| 00:44 |
PilzAdam |
+? |
| 00:44 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:44 |
Menche |
even if they have added their own stuff, the proper way to distribute it would be to say that it is a fork of minetest. or, if it's only in lua, distribute just the game mode. |
| 00:45 |
PilzAdam |
Menche, we already had that a few weeks ago |
| 00:45 |
Menche |
? |
| 00:45 |
PilzAdam |
Niften came here and said that its all prestotron55's fault |
| 00:45 |
Menche |
fault about what? |
| 00:45 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:45 |
* kaeza |
thinks Crevis smell like trolls |
| 00:45 |
PilzAdam |
Menche, basically exactly the same what prestotron55 is saying about Niften now |
| 00:45 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:46 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:46 |
PilzAdam |
Menche, thats why its getting boring |
| 00:46 |
Menche |
so, both think that copying minetest is wrong, and evidently one of them can change that... |
| 00:47 |
Evergreen |
I agree with this guy: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=112472#p112472 |
| 00:47 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:47 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:47 |
Menche |
the site seems to say that Niften is the main dev |
| 00:47 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:49 |
paramat |
thefamilygrog66, 7 is not to big and makes a good cylinder, 6 doesnt, 5 makes a boxy cylinder. |
| 00:49 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:49 |
PilzAdam |
Evergreen, answered |
| 00:49 |
Menche |
are the crevis forums even up? |
| 00:50 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:50 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:50 |
PilzAdam |
prestotron55, you two are like the same person to me |
| 00:50 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Thanks paramat, I might have to go with 3 or 5 though - it's a bit slow as is... |
| 00:51 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:51 |
Menche |
perhaps this discussion could be moved to #crevis |
| 00:51 |
Menche |
there's nobody else there... |
| 00:53 |
prestotron55 |
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| 00:54 |
thefamilygrog66 |
kaeza: here's one - 7 nodes wide (circular), plant-like with default_leaves texture right now (gonna make my own). There's a 20x20 platform at the top that looks like cloud, but you can stand on it. |
| 00:54 |
thefamilygrog66 |
http://i.imgur.com/ANiMNFd.png |
| 00:55 |
thefamilygrog66 |
oh yeah, they grow to top of cloud level by default |
| 00:56 |
paramat |
i know how to make that twist randomly as it goes up :) |
| 00:57 |
thefamilygrog66 |
cool, that sounds like some crazy math |
| 00:58 |
thefamilygrog66 |
right now, 1 in 20 random nodes is replaced with air, to give it a less uniform, more organic, look |
| 00:58 |
ShadowNinja |
I like paramat's idea. Lighting glitches also need fixing. |
| 00:58 |
Exio4 |
kaeza, libere el celular |
| 00:59 |
Exio4 |
llame a personal y en un tramite de dos minutos el celular esta libre de companias |
| 00:59 |
Exio4 |
y como tiene el rom de fabrica, es 0% personal |
| 00:59 |
thefamilygrog66 |
yeah, I think the lighting glitches are caused by the "cloud" platform |
| 00:59 |
Exio4 |
:DDDD |
| 00:59 |
ShadowNinja |
You are using the VM? |
| 00:59 |
thefamilygrog66 |
the whatnow? |
| 01:00 |
Exio4 |
if the bugs were trivial to fix, there weren't any bugs about that |
| 01:00 |
ShadowNinja |
LuaManualMapVoxelManipulator. |
| 01:00 |
thefamilygrog66 |
not that I know of... |
| 01:01 |
ShadowNinja |
You are using set_node/add_node? |
| 01:01 |
thefamilygrog66 |
minetest.set_node, yes |
| 01:02 |
paramat |
the twist would be by perlin noise. 'VM' = lua voxel manipulator. |
| 01:02 |
paramat |
LVM is only is 0.4.7 latest git |
| 01:02 |
paramat |
(.. only in ..) |
| 01:02 |
zat |
me too <3 |
| 01:03 |
zat |
sorry wrong tab |
| 01:03 |
thefamilygrog66 |
me too <3 |
| 01:03 |
Exio4 |
todos te amamos zat |
| 01:03 |
Exio4 |
cuando nos podriamos encontrar? <3 |
| 01:03 |
zat |
No sé... ¿pero como para qué clase de reunión? |
| 01:03 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I'm just using 0.4.7 |
| 01:03 |
zat |
>////< |
| 01:04 |
Exio4 |
zat, no es necesario decir explicitamente que tipo de reunion busco... :> |
| 01:04 |
zat |
<///< oh |
| 01:04 |
Exio4 |
solo con decirte que no vas a dormir de noche aclaro el tema demasiado! >:D |
| 01:04 |
zat |
Eso significa fiesta. |
| 01:04 |
paramat |
once you've tested it in 0.4.7 it can be converted to a fast LVM version later fairly easily |
| 01:04 |
Exio4 |
party hard |
| 01:04 |
zat |
yes lol |
| 01:05 |
Exio4 |
bueh, yo hablo de lo que viene despues de la fiesta cuando andan todos re enfiestados y con sangre en alcohol (?) |
| 01:05 |
zat |
Para mà eso es caña. |
| 01:05 |
Exio4 |
(no, cuando hay demasiado alcohol dejas de tener alcohol en sangre, a tener sangre en el alcohol) |
| 01:05 |
zat |
oh sà |
| 01:05 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I think I'm just gonna keep it manually coded for now, and learn LVM once 0.4.8 is released soonâ„¢ |
| 01:06 |
Exio4 |
i'd learn it now so you are ready to the "soon" moment |
| 01:06 |
thefamilygrog66 |
makes no sense if I'm not running the latest git |
| 01:07 |
paramat |
yeah :) |
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| 01:08 |
thefamilygrog66 |
but I'll definitely look into that - sounds interesting |
| 01:08 |
thefamilygrog66 |
right now, it's just using loops to stack (imperfect) circles up to cloud level |
| 01:09 |
paramat |
the cloud platform nodes should have 'light propagates = true' in the definition |
| 01:09 |
thefamilygrog66 |
gonna experiment with smaller diameters to see if it speeds it up |
| 01:09 |
thefamilygrog66 |
cool, thanks - I'll add that |
| 01:10 |
paramat |
yeah i'd go 5 nodes |
| 01:10 |
thefamilygrog66 |
that allows light to pass through it, right? |
| 01:10 |
paramat |
yes |
| 01:10 |
thefamilygrog66 |
i.e. sunlight |
| 01:10 |
thefamilygrog66 |
right on |
| 01:10 |
paramat |
i'm biased towards odd number diameters |
| 01:10 |
xiong |
What? But clouds cause shadows. They should. |
| 01:11 |
paramat |
odd number has a central node |
| 01:11 |
thefamilygrog66 |
magic clouds, xiong |
| 01:11 |
thefamilygrog66 |
that's what I figure as well, paramat |
| 01:11 |
xiong |
Don't want a unicorn game. |
| 01:11 |
thefamilygrog66 |
yes, I do in fact want a freaking unicorn game |
| 01:11 |
thefamilygrog66 |
well, maybe not unicorns, but this is a magic beans mod, after all |
| 01:12 |
xiong |
I thought about a 'unicorn' mod. Unicorns roaming around, of course; nyan cats and rainbows everywhere, magic dust, ice cream cones, sugar plum fairies. |
| 01:12 |
xiong |
Should cause anyone not a 7-year-old girl to go into instant hyperglycemia. |
| 01:12 |
thefamilygrog66 |
also, it's a mod that was inspired by my 6 year old son, so it's meant to be fun, as games generally should be |
| 01:13 |
xiong |
This is not a game, it's a model. |
| 01:13 |
paramat |
is there a stalk in the centre of the leaves? how big? |
| 01:13 |
thefamilygrog66 |
your opinion, xiong |
| 01:13 |
xiong |
Games have rules and goals. |
| 01:13 |
xiong |
I mean, explicitly. |
| 01:13 |
thefamilygrog66 |
do they now? |
| 01:14 |
thefamilygrog66 |
or sometimes they're simply play |
| 01:15 |
thefamilygrog66 |
paramat, no stalk at the moment - it's all climbable plantlike nodes |
| 01:16 |
paramat |
oh cool climable :) i keep forgetting to use that |
| 01:16 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I had to make them plantlike; otherwise, it was like I was passing through solid nodes |
| 01:16 |
thefamilygrog66 |
also have to make it not walkable |
| 01:17 |
thefamilygrog66 |
(if it's climbable) |
| 01:17 |
paramat |
make all nodes climbable = spiderman |
| 01:17 |
xiong |
"Simply play" is a toy or a model, depending on adherence to a prototype. I'm not just venting my opinion; I'm talking about the English language, which is not my construction. I don't mean to be a prig about it but what else is there if we can't agree on the dictionary? |
| 01:18 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I guess that sandbox games fall in a bit of a grey area then, xiong. |
| 01:18 |
xiong |
"When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less." |
| 01:19 |
xiong |
A "sandbox game" is a model or a toy. I mean, really. Check it out. |
| 01:19 |
xiong |
I'm not some... vendor of meaning. Shakespeare was such a person. |
| 01:19 |
Exio4 |
the fuck |
| 01:20 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I suppose if you want to get semantic about it, xiong, sure it's a model or toy. But it's still a grey area, since there are rules and "goals" as you mentioned. |
| 01:21 |
xiong |
Dunno why you're arguing, thefamilygrog66. What if I just say "You're right"? |
| 01:22 |
Peacock |
i guess today is anal day on #minetest XD |
| 01:22 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I guess what I'm saying xiong is it's open to interpretation as to exactly what it is. It is something different for everyone, okay? |
| 01:22 |
Peacock |
everytime i glance at irc some argument is happening |
| 01:22 |
xiong |
It's not anal to be correct. Or do you want to argue Freudianism now? |
| 01:22 |
Peacock |
do you dream about cigars or bananas? |
| 01:23 |
thefamilygrog66 |
It's a game to some, a model to others. |
| 01:23 |
xiong |
Why is important to you? |
| 01:23 |
thefamilygrog66 |
You were the one who brought it up: "This is not a game, it's a model." |
| 01:24 |
xiong |
There are words that mean precise things; and if you use them then everyone knows what you mean. The goal of talking is to communicate, no? |
| 01:24 |
xiong |
Correct. |
| 01:24 |
xiong |
This is pointless. If you don't see the distinction, I'm just making noise. Sorry. |
| 01:25 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I see what you're saying, but the fact is: people play games with this "model". Period. |
| 01:25 |
xiong |
This is why nobody understands me. I use words to indicate what I mean, not just arbitrarily; and people either don't know or don't care what they mean. |
| 01:25 |
Exio4 |
also, a lot of people doesn't speak english natively |
| 01:25 |
Peacock |
or maybe people are just trying to relax since this is a game :P |
| 01:26 |
xiong |
I look forward to death, I really do. It's been a miserable 53 years and I'll be well out of it. |
| 01:26 |
Exio4 |
and uses terms "correlated" to his/her native language |
| 01:27 |
thefamilygrog66 |
xiong, you do understand that people play games with this, don't you? |
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| 01:28 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I'm not pulling this out of my ass. |
| 01:28 |
xiong |
Yes, you can play a game with a toy. For example, I can hold up a Rubik's Cube and say, "Let's see how fast you and I can solve this. The shortest time wins." If you agree to those rules and that goal, then we are playing a game with a toy. |
| 01:29 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Do you have children? |
| 01:29 |
Peacock |
i should hope not lol |
| 01:30 |
xiong |
The brutal thing about English, which offends nearly everyone I meet, is that words are not blunt instruments but razor-sharp scalpels; they cut through all desires of the Humpty-Dumpty variety. |
| 01:31 |
Exio4 |
anyway, spanish and italian are better languages than english! |
| 01:31 |
xiong |
"On" is not the same as "in". Computer programmers, as a rule, work with languages with especially precise definitions; and in my experience, tend to think English is so fuzzy there's no point in being precise in it. |
| 01:31 |
Peacock |
oddly enough i find english to be one of the more ambiguous languages i've come across :P french, german and mandarin offer more precision |
| 01:32 |
zat |
I agree with all of ouy. |
| 01:32 |
xiong |
Naturally, lawyers come at it from another angle; and I doubt any useful program will ever be written by a lawyer; or a useful contract by software guy. |
| 01:32 |
zat |
you* |
| 01:32 |
Inocudom |
The English language was designed to create a practical and warlike people, so I can see it as being depressing. And you wonder why it is the international language of the future... |
| 01:32 |
Peacock |
lawyers are all about finding ways around laws using semantics :P programmers have to stick to the language rules else it doesn't work |
| 01:33 |
thefamilygrog66 |
One thing I've re-learned as a father is that games are sometimes not as rigid as your academic definition, xiong. Sometimes these "rules" and "goals" are open to interpretation. |
| 01:33 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 01:34 |
Inocudom |
If the child within dies, the person is dead. Remember that always. |
| 01:34 |
xiong |
Everything in human activity is open to interpretation. Ask me again why I'm antisocial. |
| 01:34 |
* Peacock |
pushes PilzAdam's power button |
| 01:34 |
* Peacock |
runs away |
| 01:34 |
Inocudom |
I am learning that crucial lesson. |
| 01:34 |
zat |
I agree with all of you. |
| 01:34 |
Peacock |
lol this is the weirdest conversation on #minetest yet |
| 01:34 |
zat |
I agree with that too. |
| 01:35 |
Peacock |
anyone looking forward to the Breaking Bad Finale? |
| 01:35 |
zat |
I agree http://i.imgur.com/WHDN6.png |
| 01:35 |
Inocudom |
How might you view this video? http://youtu.be/zPSH6-UC4Og |
| 01:35 |
prestotron55 |
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| 01:35 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Peacock, yes. |
| 01:35 |
thefamilygrog66 |
night prestrotron55 |
| 01:36 |
thefamilygrog66 |
*prestotron66 |
| 01:36 |
thefamilygrog66 |
dammit |
| 01:36 |
Inocudom |
It is a video of a guy handling a male carpenter bee. |
| 01:36 |
Peacock |
*prostatetron :P |
| 01:36 |
thefamilygrog66 |
^only funny to old guys like us |
| 01:36 |
Inocudom |
Takes place in Japan. |
| 01:36 |
Peacock |
prostate exam? i wont even let a doctor wag a finger in my face :P |
| 01:37 |
prestotron55 |
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| 01:37 |
Inocudom |
I sometimes find it appropriate to call carpenter bees griefer bees. |
| 01:37 |
thefamilygrog66 |
run as soon as you see the rubber glove |
| 01:37 |
Peacock |
heck i can't even stand the sight of needles lol |
| 01:37 |
Peacock |
last time i took the cat to the vet, she took it better than me lol |
| 01:38 |
paramat |
lol PA was Peacock's creation all this time? |
| 01:38 |
Peacock |
I didn't create PilzAdam :P |
| 01:39 |
Peacock |
nor did i create PulseAudio, but if i did, i wouldn't own up to it anyways :P |
| 01:39 |
Inocudom |
The man is able to hold the male griefer (carpenter) bee because it has no stinger. Might be able to pinch with its small mandibles however. |
| 01:39 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I had a diabetic cat for awhile - kept her alive for 6.5 years with two shots a day, Peacock |
| 01:39 |
* prestotron55 |
found an article that states "Peacock created PilzAdam as of 2010" |
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| 01:39 |
dafull97 |
Hey guys |
| 01:40 |
zat |
I agree with all of you |
| 01:40 |
Peacock |
PilzAdam is german, im Canadian, i'd have to have a pretty big/long one to create him lol |
| 01:40 |
* thefamilygrog66 |
disagrees with zat, just for the heck of it. |
| 01:40 |
Inocudom |
Including the male griefer bee? |
| 01:40 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Hey, why not. |
| 01:41 |
* prestotron55 |
also found another article that states "Peacock has a long one" |
| 01:41 |
Inocudom |
Though, I think only female griefer (carpenter) bees actually drill holes. |
| 01:41 |
Peacock |
i wont deny that |
| 01:41 |
Inocudom |
Thus, they are the only ones that "grief" woodwork on buildings. |
| 01:42 |
Peacock |
(who would?) |
| 01:42 |
prestotron55 |
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| 01:43 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Do I need to worry about paramtype = "light", ? |
| 01:43 |
Peacock |
your mother wouldn't |
| 01:43 |
dafull97 |
VanessaE, you here? |
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prestotron55 |
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| 01:43 |
Exio4 |
why the fuck you use @ |
| 01:44 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Mom's writing lua again? |
| 01:44 |
Exio4 |
this, is, NOT, twitter |
| 01:44 |
dafull97 |
haha |
| 01:44 |
thefamilygrog66 |
hashtag yolo |
| 01:44 |
dafull97 |
LOL, Exio4 |
| 01:44 |
prestotron55 |
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| 01:44 |
Exio4 |
#yoloswag @thefamilygrog66 |
| 01:44 |
Exio4 |
RS @daful97 LOL |
| 01:44 |
dafull97 |
RS? im lost =P |
| 01:44 |
Exio4 |
reshare |
| 01:44 |
Exio4 |
or is it RT? |
| 01:45 |
dafull97 |
haha, ohh... |
| 01:45 |
Exio4 |
i don't know |
| 01:45 |
prestotron55 |
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| 01:45 |
Exio4 |
k |
| 01:45 |
dafull97 |
i don't use twiiter so idk |
| 01:45 |
Exio4 |
i'm not a twitter sucker |
| 01:45 |
dafull97 |
twitter* |
| 01:45 |
Peacock |
RT is a Russian news agency :P |
| 01:45 |
Exio4 |
i have accounts for having sms-for-free notifications |
| 01:46 |
kaeza |
\o\ \o| |o| |o/ /o/ |
| 01:46 |
kaeza |
pong? |
| 01:46 |
Exio4 |
pang |
| 01:48 |
kaeza |
!tw lkaezadl3 |
| 01:48 |
MinetestBot |
@Dinnerbone That looks interestingly similar to #minetest 's scheme for naming blocks. (@lkaezadl3) |
| 01:48 |
kaeza |
:D |
| 01:50 |
Inocudom |
Another video of a male Japanese "Griefer" (Carpenter) Bee: http://youtu.be/orvlrNVef2U |
| 01:53 |
paramat |
thefamilygrog66, "paramtype = "light", ?" was thinking about that, nodeboxes blend better with full nodes that way |
| 01:54 |
prestotron55 |
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| 01:54 |
Inocudom |
I saw a male "griefer" (carpenter) bee in the wood shed near my house today. He was sleepy and looked at me sometimes. |
| 01:54 |
Exio4 |
the fuck |
| 01:54 |
thefamilygrog66 |
thanks paramat, I'm experimenting with it with plantlike nodes |
| 01:55 |
Inocudom |
I think tree leaves would drop the framerate less if there was a way or a mod that drew them like plantlike nodes. |
| 01:55 |
paramat |
the beanstalk is cool and fun, you know how i like big structures :) |
| 01:55 |
Inocudom |
Like flowers and grass are drawn. |
| 01:56 |
paramat |
you can do that, i tried it |
| 01:56 |
prestotron55 |
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| 01:57 |
Inocudom |
It could be future mod or option supporting tiny trees, default trees, farming plus, and moretrees. |
| 01:57 |
* prestotron55 |
is working on a pony mod that supports farming_plus for feeding them |
| 01:58 |
Inocudom |
I think it should be a base game option. Not only do leaves look more realistic that way, they are also transparent and don't drop framerate too much. |
| 01:58 |
Inocudom |
Melkor made MLP models based on cubes once. |
| 01:59 |
dafull97 |
How do i set default privs for all players |
| 01:59 |
dafull97 |
? |
| 02:00 |
prestotron55 |
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| 02:00 |
paramat |
leaves are plants after all -> plantlike drawtype. anyway it looked cool i prefer it to the default drawtype |
| 02:02 |
cy1 |
Having trouble connecting. It keeps taking a long time. <.< I think it might be downloading stuff every time? |
| 02:02 |
Inocudom |
Actually, Gambit (not Melkor) was the one who made the models. The link to their post is here: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=19911#p19911 |
| 02:04 |
cy1 |
Especially "Item Textures" |
| 02:04 |
cy1 |
Is there a cache size I should increase...? |
| 02:04 |
prestotron55 |
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| 02:05 |
cy1 |
Well that would obviously take long to regenerate :p |
| 02:05 |
prestotron55 |
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| 02:06 |
cy1 |
Depends what server you're downloading everything from |
| 02:06 |
* xiong |
waits for prestotron55 to complete 'pony' so he can fork it to 'unicorn' |
| 02:06 |
prestotron55 |
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| 02:07 |
dafull97 |
what about the minettest.conf? |
| 02:07 |
prestotron55 |
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| 02:08 |
xiong |
Yah well, prestotron55, when the unicorn rolls out, you may not want to be associated with it. So I'll put your name up front. ;) |
| 02:08 |
xiong |
The trees will drop juice boxes. |
| 02:09 |
prestotron55 |
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| 02:10 |
cy1 |
Are Land Rush servers slower? |
| 02:10 |
NakedFury |
what are land rush servers? |
| 02:10 |
prestotron55 |
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| 02:10 |
cy1 |
No idea. |
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Mossmanikin |
Hi folks |
| 02:11 |
prestotron55 |
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| 02:11 |
cy1 |
prestotron55: Shouldn't the mods only lag once though, for initial download? |
| 02:11 |
xiong |
I think all protection schemes slow down the server, cy1. Every action has to be checked to see if it's valid. |
| 02:11 |
prestotron55 |
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| 02:11 |
cy1 |
Ugh, yeah the anticheats... |
| 02:13 |
xiong |
Ugh. Actually the first thing to do is not a unicorn but a nyan cat mob. |
| 02:14 |
prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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| 02:14 |
xiong |
Well, that's what I mean by 'unicorn'. All of it -- unicorns, cats, rainbows, juice boxes, cotton candy, stars. |
| 02:14 |
xiong |
Magic wands, you craft them out of stars and sticks. |
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| 02:15 |
xiong |
Oh dear, you think I'm serious. I loathe the whole idea; that's why I keep extending it. |
| 02:16 |
xiong |
There are no rules for a unicorn mod. The cow can jump over the moon or not. |
| 02:16 |
prestotron55 |
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| 02:16 |
xiong |
I guess the idea is not original with me. :( |
| 02:17 |
prestotron55 |
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| 02:17 |
xiong |
Ha ha, I don't have the skills... yet. |
| 02:17 |
prestotron55 |
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| 02:18 |
xiong |
Honestly, my involvement would be driven by raw hatred and only last as long as my rage. |
| 02:18 |
xiong |
If you want to swap education for labor, pick another mod. |
| 02:18 |
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prestotron55 |
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| 02:19 |
xiong |
I try never to go offline. :) |
| 02:19 |
prestotron55 |
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| 02:19 |
ShadowNinja |
xiong: Depends on the protection mod, one like mine takes a (almost?) immeasurable amount of time to check actions. Ones that check nearby nodes like Zeg9's protector may take longer. |
| 02:19 |
prestotron55 |
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| 02:19 |
xiong |
ShadowNinja, which one is yours? |
| 02:20 |
* prestotron55 |
and Zeg9 are partnered on ponies! |
| 02:21 |
ShadowNinja |
I haven't actually profiled it, but I imagine it would be 6.7e-10s or so. xiong: Areas, see github, the forum, and the mmdb. |
| 02:21 |
xiong |
Ah, 'areas'. |
| 02:21 |
ShadowNinja |
It is similar to node_ownership. |
| 02:21 |
xiong |
I'll tell you what I *want*, if you care. |
| 02:22 |
ShadowNinja |
Feature request? |
| 02:22 |
xiong |
The trouble, IMO, with all protection schemes is that they lead to chaotic development, with huge land grabs and no roads. |
| 02:22 |
xiong |
I like land rush because it forces claims to chunks; but I dislike it because claims take the whole chunk, leaving no room for roads. |
| 02:22 |
ShadowNinja |
That is up to mods in my mod. (no pun intended) |
| 02:23 |
xiong |
What I'd like to see is a scheme whereby a player is given some private property -- on a grid! -- and a public easement automatically made. The easement can be set as fully public or restricted to the admin class. |
| 02:24 |
xiong |
Also I want a back end, so claims can be tied into a Cash Money payment scheme. |
| 02:25 |
ShadowNinja |
What about roads? This just sounds like landclaim_0gb_us with bigger areas and auto-/claim |
| 02:25 |
xiong |
Dunno, haven't seen 0gb's fork. |
| 02:25 |
ShadowNinja |
Fork? Landrysh is a fork of landclaim_0gb_us. |
| 02:26 |
xiong |
My theory is that after the map is generated, a script should force roads everywhere on the map in a predictable grid. |
| 02:26 |
ShadowNinja |
Landrush* |
| 02:26 |
xiong |
Okay, it's the other way around. Which is the fork, which is the reality? Meh. |
| 02:27 |
ShadowNinja |
A fork with some *cough* issues... (Code-style wise) |
| 02:27 |
xiong |
I think it's silly that to visit somebody's build, you generally end up twisting an ankle... or falling off a cliff. |
| 02:28 |
ShadowNinja |
xiong: With flat mapgen that would work, or really smart road-making. |
| 02:28 |
xiong |
If you leave highway construction up to individuals, they are haphazard, unconnected, and barely useful. |
| 02:28 |
xiong |
No no, roads bore tunnels in my scheme. Straight and level at Sea Level. |
| 02:28 |
ShadowNinja |
Otherwise the read will just lead you off the cliff. |
| 02:29 |
xiong |
The road may or may not be immediately useful to neighbors; they'll have to build access down to it, perhaps. |
| 02:29 |
xiong |
Flat worlds suck. |
| 02:30 |
ShadowNinja |
Hmmm, but players will undoubtedly want to switch areas, and the space would get used up fast. |
| 02:30 |
xiong |
Eh? |
| 02:30 |
xiong |
How used up? I don't follow, sorry. |
| 02:30 |
ShadowNinja |
Players would get areas and soon you would need to travel very far to get places. |
| 02:31 |
xiong |
Well, isn't that always so? |
| 02:31 |
Peacock |
make it so, numba one |
| 02:31 |
cy1 |
Well now it's taking like 20 min to login. |
| 02:31 |
ShadowNinja |
Nope, it isn't on my server, it is rather compact. |
| 02:31 |
xiong |
Roads make it easier to spread out; they relieve congestion. |
| 02:31 |
xiong |
The script should also be able to be set to produce subways also/instead. |
| 02:32 |
ShadowNinja |
I only protect things that need protection though. |
| 02:32 |
xiong |
In fact, there's much to be said in favor of subways. |
| 02:32 |
cy1 |
xiong: My problem with protection schemes is you can get stranded somewhere with no food, tools, monsters everywhere and then you fall in a hole :p |
| 02:32 |
cy1 |
Especially when they protect a large area around spawn. |
| 02:32 |
xiong |
Yah, well that's all protection, yes. |
| 02:32 |
xiong |
There's also a lot to be said for private servers. |
| 02:33 |
* ShadowNinja |
only protects -/+15, VE does similarly. |
| 02:33 |
xiong |
It's very annoying when there's a lot of protection in effect and no roads. You just can't hike across country without occasionally digging or placing a block. |
| 02:33 |
cy1 |
What slows down the server isn't those though. It's the simulated digging. It redigs every block you dig, checking the physics and such to make sure you're not digging too fast. |
| 02:33 |
ShadowNinja |
Of course fixing rollback would make this easier. |
| 02:33 |
cy1 |
That's why sometimes you will dig a bunch of stuff, it will reappear, and then the blocks will start disappearing in the order you dug them. |
| 02:34 |
cy1 |
checking "is area owned by X" with every interact is a lot less processing. |
| 02:34 |
ShadowNinja |
cy1: That should be rather fast, the replay is from lag. |
| 02:35 |
cy1 |
ShadowNinja: When you've got a dozen people digging as fast as they can, it's going to slow the server down. |
| 02:35 |
ShadowNinja |
cy1: far less than 1ms of checking will make a big difference? |
| 02:35 |
xiong |
Now you're getting into core engine issues; I don't wanna fight those guys. |
| 02:36 |
cy1 |
Agreed, xiong... |
| 02:36 |
ShadowNinja |
Most protection mods have no effect on lag. |
| 02:36 |
xiong |
So 'land rush' and Orby's private scheme are the only offenders? |
| 02:37 |
ShadowNinja |
Unless you are annoyed by nano-second lag. |
| 02:37 |
ShadowNinja |
xiong: Offenders of what? |
| 02:37 |
cy1 |
I've said for years that anti-speed-hax are what makes a game suck. But whatever's making it frikkin impossible to get the media from a server, that is bugging me. |
| 02:38 |
ShadowNinja |
cy1: anti-cheat got fixed (hopefully) semi-recently. |
| 02:38 |
cy1 |
xiong: I think they're offenders because they have a lot of images and music, and minetest likes to download that stuff at like 300 bytes per second or something. |
| 02:38 |
cy1 |
ShadowNinja: Haven't looked at it in a while honestly, so yeah it could be better. |
| 02:38 |
ShadowNinja |
I think it is only in 0.4.7-dev. |
| 02:39 |
ShadowNinja |
It's been so long that it probably is. ;-) |
| 02:41 |
Exio4 |
ShadowNinja: more like 1ms of lag lets say |
| 02:41 |
Exio4 |
the lua->C and C->lua overhead of the calls and stuff like that |
| 02:42 |
xiong |
No sound, I say. None. |
| 02:42 |
ShadowNinja |
Exio4: To iterate through a table with maybe 1000 entries and do some simple number comparison? |
| 02:42 |
cy1 |
The ABMs make servers really laggy. <.< |
| 02:42 |
Exio4 |
o |
| 02:42 |
Exio4 |
o |
| 02:42 |
Exio4 |
fuck. sorry, keyboard got stuck |
| 02:42 |
cy1 |
elephant in the room, I know |
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Exio4 |
ShadowNinja: i'm pretty sure it will take 1ms, at least |
| 02:42 |
ShadowNinja |
Exio4: My mod uses no Lua->C calls in it's protection checker. |
| 02:43 |
Exio4 |
C->lua though |
| 02:43 |
xiong |
If I want sound, I'll play it myself. I lived in this apartment for nearly two years before putting on a CD. |
| 02:43 |
_2cool4me4_ |
The project has grown, I see. |
| 02:43 |
ShadowNinja |
It is called from Lua, C only calls minetedt.node_dig/item_place. |
| 02:44 |
* thefamilygrog66 |
would rather perform music than listen to others', usually |
| 02:44 |
Exio4 |
how slow is lua when iterating over a table? |
| 02:44 |
Exio4 |
i'm pretty sure it'll take a bit |
| 02:45 |
ShadowNinja |
Exio4: https://github.com/ShadowNinja/areas/blob/master/api.lua#L4 I bet it will be less than a tenth of a milisecond. |
| 02:46 |
ShadowNinja |
But I can't test now. |
| 02:46 |
ShadowNinja |
I have a copy of redcrab's owners.tbl to test with. |
| 02:46 |
ShadowNinja |
(800+ entries) |
| 02:48 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Very odd - there is supposed to be a square of "cloud" generated at the top of the beanstalk, and there usually is, but sometimes there are "bites" taken out of the square. |
| 02:48 |
thefamilygrog66 |
i.e. random nodes removed, usually at the edges |
| 02:49 |
ShadowNinja |
thefamilygrog66: Pointed or rounded bites? |
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thefamilygrog66 |
ShadowNinja, here's an example: http://i.imgur.com/qFJkXHs.png |
| 02:51 |
thefamilygrog66 |
As I mentioned, they're usually perfect squares. |
| 02:52 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Is it possible that the -real- clouds would interfere at the moment these are being generated? |
| 02:52 |
ShadowNinja |
thefamilygrog66: Looks like cavegen. VanessaE is more of an expert on this though. |
| 02:53 |
thefamilygrog66 |
It's strange. |
| 02:57 |
dafull97 |
how to give all players privs? |
| 02:58 |
thefamilygrog66 |
default_privs = interact, shout, teleport, settime, privs, ... |
| 02:58 |
thefamilygrog66 |
in the minetest.conf file, dafull97 |
| 02:58 |
thefamilygrog66 |
just specify which privs in that line |
| 02:58 |
dafull97 |
i thought so, why do players that already playing dont get them? |
| 02:59 |
thefamilygrog66 |
only when joining the first time |
| 02:59 |
thefamilygrog66 |
same with give initial stuff |
| 02:59 |
dafull97 |
how do i give player palying already them privs? |
| 02:59 |
thefamilygrog66 |
you'd have to manually grant them privs if they've already joined |
| 02:59 |
thefamilygrog66 |
example: /grant dafull97 fly |
| 03:00 |
dafull97 |
crap :/ |
| 03:00 |
dafull97 |
yea ok.. haha |
| 03:01 |
NakedFury |
write that down in a note |
| 03:02 |
dafull97 |
who? |
| 03:02 |
NakedFury |
you |
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| 03:04 |
Mossmanikin |
very interesting to follow a conversation about something I know shit about ;) need some sleep, bye, later |
| 03:05 |
Inocudom |
I mentioned earlier that there could be a future mod or feature that could draw tree leaves like flowers are drawn (plantlike.) |
| 03:06 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Yes. |
| 03:06 |
Inocudom |
Might save on fps and look more leaflike. |
| 03:06 |
ShadowNinja |
dafull97: Or you could write a mod that iterates through minetest.auth_table and grants the privs. |
| 03:06 |
Inocudom |
Less polygons will be drawn with such a feature. |
| 03:07 |
paramat |
thefamilygrog66, you can disable cavegen in mineteset.conf. That looks like cavegen griefing, what y is that? usually occurs near chunk boundaries (47, 127) |
| 03:07 |
ShadowNinja |
Inocudom: That would be just about as slow as allfaces. |
| 03:07 |
dafull97 |
no clue how write a mod |
| 03:08 |
paramat |
... so you could redefine cloud level away from a chunk boundary |
| 03:08 |
Inocudom |
It would? Would it result in any framerate gain at all? |
| 03:08 |
ShadowNinja |
You could also modify auth.txt with shell/python/whatever. |
| 03:08 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Haha, paramat: it's 127 - the same height that the tops of clouds reach. |
| 03:08 |
paramat |
:) |
| 03:09 |
Inocudom |
I know that nodebox models cause a significant drop in framerate if there is a bunch of them. |
| 03:09 |
thefamilygrog66 |
e.g. jungletrees? |
| 03:09 |
ShadowNinja |
Inocudom: Yes, as it is two rather than six transparent faces. But you can't use occlusion culling or anything. |
| 03:09 |
thefamilygrog66 |
though jungletrees are just straight up nodes |
| 03:10 |
Inocudom |
What would occlusion culling do if Minetest had it? |
| 03:11 |
paramat |
drawtype plantlike with non transparent textues: just 2 squares intersecting, that's what i tried, i think it may be the simplest and fastest? |
| 03:11 |
ShadowNinja |
Inocudom: I mean not drawing nodes surrounded by solid nodes, whatever that is called. |
| 03:14 |
Exio4 |
don't we have it? |
| 03:14 |
dafull97 |
that would be a good mod, make a "Control room" in the server only admins can enter... then make it so its a GUI Server Customizer |
| 03:14 |
Exio4 |
i thought we had that |
| 03:16 |
ShadowNinja |
Exio4: Yes, exactly. But you can't do that with plantlike as you can see through. |
| 03:17 |
Inocudom |
Leaves drawn with plantlike might be transparent anyway. |
| 03:19 |
Exio4 |
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=463488 |
| 03:20 |
Exio4 |
apply this to builtin ^ |
| 03:20 |
Exio4 |
inb4 15% improvement in speed |
| 03:23 |
kaeza |
Exio4, the ipairs() thing depends if it's stock Lua or Jit |
| 03:24 |
kaeza |
I remember doing a similar benchmark with mixed results |
| 03:25 |
Exio4 |
a linear array is still faster |
| 03:25 |
Exio4 |
and the same applies to local caches |
| 03:26 |
kaeza |
yep, most of those tips are good |
| 03:27 |
kaeza |
in particular, ditch the foo["bar"] form and use foo.bar whenever `bar' is constant/known in advance |
| 03:27 |
Exio4 |
i know |
| 03:27 |
Exio4 |
kaeza |
| 03:27 |
Exio4 |
what do you think about a nokia n9 |
| 03:28 |
Exio4 |
i know nokia now sucks thanks to elop |
| 03:28 |
Exio4 |
and that shit |
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| 03:29 |
kaeza |
dunno |
| 03:29 |
codehero |
yeah, nokia sucks \o/ |
| 03:29 |
kaeza |
mosr nokia phones are (were?) top of the line for the price |
| 03:29 |
dafull97 |
PilzAdam, you here? |
| 03:30 |
kaeza |
most* |
| 03:30 |
codehero |
do you know newkia? :P |
| 03:33 |
Exio4 |
codehero: the n9/950 were good phones, though |
| 03:33 |
Exio4 |
i may get an used n9 with a locked provider |
| 03:33 |
Exio4 |
if i get one, i'll unlock it and put my SIM in it |
| 03:33 |
Exio4 |
(tl;dr i get a decent unlocked phone for cheap) |
| 03:36 |
codehero |
yeah the old nokias were good |
| 03:37 |
codehero |
you could even throw them out of the second floor and they'd survive :P |
| 03:37 |
Exio4 |
ew |
| 03:37 |
Exio4 |
not second, more like third! |
| 03:41 |
dafull97 |
Exio4, are you a Modder? Developer? |
| 03:41 |
dafull97 |
nothing? |
| 03:41 |
dafull97 |
member of Community? haha |
| 03:41 |
dafull97 |
!up 5.231.69.196 30000 |
| 03:41 |
MinetestBot |
5.231.69.196:30000 is up (99ms) |
| 03:42 |
dafull97 |
nice, have good conenction hah |
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| 03:45 |
Exio4 |
dafull97: i'm not a modder, and more like a casual developer, and from nonhere of the community |
| 03:45 |
dafull97 |
oh, nice haha |
| 03:46 |
dafull97 |
im a newer server provider... learning as muc has i can so i can help other people |
| 03:46 |
Exio4 |
i code random stuff for me, and some uber-simple changes to MT |
| 03:47 |
Exio4 |
anyway |
| 03:47 |
Exio4 |
it is getting late there, and i should go to sleep |
| 03:48 |
Peacock |
there or here? :P |
| 03:48 |
Exio4 |
i don't know |
| 03:48 |
Exio4 |
night |
| 03:48 |
Peacock |
nite |
| 03:48 |
dafull97 |
haha, what i was about to say.. Peacock |
| 03:48 |
Peacock |
just processed 110 textures lol testing them will be fun |
| 03:49 |
Exio4 |
:P |
| 03:49 |
Exio4 |
english isn't my native language and i learned it from irc |
| 03:49 |
Peacock |
english ain't mine either so dont wory :P |
| 03:49 |
Exio4 |
i'm proud of being able to spell hi! :D |
| 03:49 |
Peacock |
*worry lol |
| 03:49 |
* Exio4 |
yawns |
| 03:50 |
dafull97 |
haha, english is my native... i though both you were... |
| 03:50 |
dafull97 |
can do really good... |
| 03:51 |
Exio4 |
i'm argentinian, and i can barely speak english, if you didn't realize english isn't my native tongue, it is weird :P |
| 03:51 |
Exio4 |
whatever, closed the running shit, night |
| 03:53 |
dafull97 |
night... and you can tell a little |
| 03:53 |
dafull97 |
not enough to matter |
| 03:53 |
dafull97 |
=P |
| 03:53 |
kaeza |
funny how some non-native speakers write way better than some native ones |
| 03:56 |
dafull97 |
kaeza, what that suppose to mean? |
| 03:57 |
kaeza |
:I |
| 03:58 |
kaeza |
nvm |
| 03:58 |
dafull97 |
trying say i cannot write my own language? saying im dumb? |
| 04:01 |
kaeza |
I never pointed at anyone in particular |
| 04:02 |
kaeza |
and never said it was dumb |
| 04:03 |
kaeza |
please do read before over-reacting |
| 04:05 |
dafull97 |
im not overreacting... i assumed... sorry for that |
| 04:08 |
Peacock |
naw, native english really do have worse english than people for whom it's a second language :P |
| 04:08 |
Peacock |
i live in Quebec, i should know :P |
| 04:38 |
xiong |
Very few of my fellow Americans are able to speak, write, read English or even understand it when it's spoken. |
| 04:39 |
dafull97 |
Peacock, what time is it there? |
| 04:39 |
xiong |
For what it's worth, I find that English is usually spoken with great correctness by Indians. |
| 04:40 |
Peacock |
only half past midnight, i havent made dinner yet |
| 04:40 |
dafull97 |
same here |
| 04:40 |
dafull97 |
haha |
| 04:41 |
Peacock |
gonna make sausages and patate au gratin lol |
| 04:42 |
dafull97 |
12:40 there right? |
| 04:43 |
Peacock |
43 now yeah lol |
| 04:44 |
dafull97 |
well i just rounded =P |
| 04:45 |
dafull97 |
come on my server =P |
| 04:45 |
Peacock |
im still testing out 110 new textures :P |
| 04:46 |
Peacock |
i shit you not: http://s14.postimg.org/nrsqmsqcx/screenshot_1745455101.png |
| 04:47 |
dafull97 |
i know heard you say somthing about it earlier |
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dafull97 |
stupid net |
| 04:48 |
dafull97 |
haha |
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| 04:49 |
VanessaE |
hi all |
| 04:53 |
dafull97 |
Hey VanessaE! |
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dafull97 |
us^0gb... changed your name? |
| 05:01 |
us^0gb |
I change my name every time I log in now, because I'm weird. |
| 05:01 |
us^0gb |
I have six names to choose from. |
| 05:02 |
dafull97 |
ohh.. im working on my server haha... jsut get home? |
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us^0gb |
I did, yes. THere's quite a storm out and it's a half hour walk home. |
| 05:03 |
us^0gb |
I just stripped, my clothes are drenched. |
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| 05:06 |
dafull97 |
sucks haha |
| 05:07 |
us^0gb |
Not too much though. The human body dries amazingly quickly. |
| 05:08 |
us^0gb |
Only my scalp is still wet. |
| 05:09 |
Peacock |
ive often thought that myself when skinning my victims |
| 05:09 |
Peacock |
http://storiesbehindthescreen.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/silence2.jpg |
| 05:11 |
us^0gb |
WHo is that? |
| 05:11 |
Peacock |
you never saw Silence of the Lambs? |
| 05:11 |
dafull97 |
nopee... haha |
| 05:11 |
Peacock |
and you claim to be American :P |
| 05:11 |
Peacock |
its a classic :p |
| 05:11 |
us^0gb |
No. I don';t watch movies. THough I have heard of it. |
| 05:12 |
dafull97 |
so.. haha |
| 05:12 |
us^0gb |
Not everyone in North or South America has to watch movies. |
| 05:12 |
dafull97 |
i heard of it like us^0gb said |
| 05:12 |
VanessaE |
I've never seen it either, Peacock |
| 05:12 |
dafull97 |
haha |
| 05:12 |
Peacock |
you have no excuse :P you're old enough |
| 05:12 |
VanessaE |
I have no desire to see it. |
| 05:13 |
us^0gb |
I'm old enough to drink and gamble. THat doesn't mean I have to though. The same goes for watching movies. |
| 05:13 |
Peacock |
its been my experience that most geeks dont do much at all :P |
| 05:13 |
Peacock |
good or bad |
| 05:15 |
us^0gb |
Hmm. Fair enough. I'm a geek "want to be". Does that count? |
| 05:16 |
dafull97 |
need help with lua error |
| 05:17 |
Peacock |
wannabe or certified, are you the guy that doesnt like to get layed or am i mixing you up with someone else? |
| 05:17 |
us^0gb |
The asexual? Yeah, that's me. |
| 05:17 |
us^0gb |
What's the error? |
| 05:17 |
Peacock |
yeah, you're not a wannabe geek, you are a geek :P |
| 05:17 |
* dafull97 |
needs help with Lua |
| 05:18 |
dafull97 |
going sleep and getting tired |
| 05:18 |
Peacock |
then why mention your error? :P |
| 05:18 |
dafull97 |
i meant soon haha' |
| 05:18 |
Peacock |
lol aiight next time :P |
| 05:19 |
dafull97 |
want to fix this so i dont have to do it in the mourn ahah |
| 05:19 |
Peacock |
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060711034324/memoryalpha/en/images/9/91/Morn.jpg |
| 05:19 |
Peacock |
Morn agrees |
| 05:20 |
dafull97 |
http://pastebin.com/NQBctL7W |
| 05:20 |
Peacock |
pastebin the code too |
| 05:21 |
us^0gb |
Post the ... Oops, too slow. |
| 05:21 |
Peacock |
i have a feeling it may be the singlequote but i need to be sure |
| 05:21 |
dafull97 |
what? |
| 05:21 |
us^0gb |
My guess is you need a ".." somewhere. |
| 05:21 |
dafull97 |
no clue haha |
| 05:21 |
Peacock |
pastebin the code/mod |
| 05:21 |
dafull97 |
new to lua |
| 05:22 |
Peacock |
did you try escaping the single quote |
| 05:22 |
Peacock |
doing \' instead of ' |
| 05:23 |
us^0gb |
The singlw quote doesn't need escaping when the delimiters are double quotes. |
| 05:23 |
dafull97 |
http://pastebin.com/VVNy91Ra |
| 05:23 |
Peacock |
im just guessing without the sourcecode *hint* :P |
| 05:23 |
Peacock |
i need to see line 3 to know whats up |
| 05:23 |
dafull97 |
Peacock ^^ ahha |
| 05:23 |
us^0gb |
Add a .. after each line. |
| 05:24 |
Peacock |
did you start your formspec on line 1 or 2? then you need .. like ogb said |
| 05:24 |
us^0gb |
"label[1,1;Rules:]" should be "label[1,1;Rules:]".. for example. |
| 05:24 |
Peacock |
yeah try the double dots |
| 05:24 |
us^0gb |
Are you using pico or nano for that? |
| 05:24 |
dafull97 |
nano |
| 05:24 |
Peacock |
doesnt matter what text editor he's using |
| 05:25 |
Peacock |
if multiple strings, you need to concatenate with .. |
| 05:25 |
dafull97 |
and PilzAdam made this for me |
| 05:25 |
us^0gb |
It matters because of what the pasted code looks like. |
| 05:25 |
Peacock |
"blahblah".."blahblah" |
| 05:25 |
Peacock |
or |
| 05:25 |
us^0gb |
The ".."s will do it either way, but if dafull97 isn't using pico or nano, there's another error too. |
| 05:26 |
Peacock |
formspec = formspec .. "blahblah" |
| 05:26 |
dafull97 |
line 13 now |
| 05:26 |
Peacock |
error? |
| 05:27 |
dafull97 |
01:26:34: ERROR[main]: /home/minetest/.minetest/mods/rulepop/init.lua:13: in main chunk |
| 05:27 |
Peacock |
that doesnt tell much :P |
| 05:27 |
dafull97 |
01:26:34: ERROR[main]: ========== ERROR FROM LUA =========== |
| 05:27 |
dafull97 |
01:26:34: ERROR[main]: Failed to load and run script from |
| 05:27 |
dafull97 |
01:26:34: ERROR[main]: /home/minetest/.minetest/mods/rulepop/init.lua: |
| 05:27 |
dafull97 |
01:26:34: ERROR[main]: /home/minetest/.minetest/mods/rulepop/init.lua:13: attempt to concatenate a nil value |
| 05:27 |
dafull97 |
01:26:34: ERROR[main]: stack traceback: |
| 05:27 |
dafull97 |
01:26:34: ERROR[main]: /home/minetest/.minetest/mods/rulepop/init.lua:13: in main chunk |
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dafull97 was kicked by ShadowBot: Message flood detected. |
| 05:28 |
Peacock |
nil value means your variable is empty |
| 05:28 |
Peacock |
(when you come back lol) |
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| 05:28 |
dafull97 |
opps |
| 05:28 |
dafull97 |
haha |
| 05:28 |
Peacock |
shit happens lol |
| 05:29 |
dafull97 |
didnt know it did that hahaha |
| 05:29 |
Peacock |
nil value means your variable was empty |
| 05:29 |
Peacock |
this channel's got plenty of bots, but none too smart :P |
| 05:30 |
dafull97 |
line 13 is "end)" |
| 05:30 |
Peacock |
if they were smart, they'd detect flooding as the same thing being posted more than once, not different things in rapid succession |
| 05:30 |
Peacock |
no but the error is concatenating nil value, so check your variable names |
| 05:31 |
fu-fu |
So, I'm kinda a noob at programming, understand the basics, but not really libs and whatnot... I was wondering how would one make a client side API for controling a client? (I want to make a populous-like clone, with the clients being the workers/citizens... (super unoptimised for now, just a proof of concept.)) |
| 05:31 |
Peacock |
there is no client side modding for the moment |
| 05:32 |
fu-fu |
Well, I mean at the cpp level. |
| 05:32 |
Peacock |
that's patching |
| 05:32 |
Peacock |
you can patch your client, god knows if it will work/connect |
| 05:32 |
dafull97 |
http://pastebin.com/UGNs3RCT |
| 05:32 |
dafull97 |
there my code now |
| 05:33 |
dafull97 |
Peacock ^^ |
| 05:33 |
Peacock |
"label[2,2;1. Don't Ever try to rule overrule Adm$ |
| 05:33 |
Peacock |
should be |
| 05:33 |
Peacock |
"label[2,2;1. Don't Ever try to rule overrule Adm".. |
| 05:33 |
Peacock |
oups |
| 05:33 |
Peacock |
"label[2,2;1. Don't Ever try to rule overrule Adm]".. |
| 05:33 |
Peacock |
whats with all the dollar signs? |
| 05:34 |
dafull97 |
didnt show all the code |
| 05:34 |
dafull97 |
im ssh in a Xubuntu |
| 05:34 |
Peacock |
no but there are $ at some EOL's |
| 05:34 |
dafull97 |
here all code |
| 05:35 |
fu-fu |
xD, Yes, I was looking at the client.cpp, I'm just trying to figure out how I would get another program to beable to interface and use the sendPlayerPos, and yaw and whatnot...? (And custom functions to fetch node data...) |
| 05:35 |
Peacock |
anyways it seems like your formspec string is malformed |
| 05:35 |
dafull97 |
i didnt relise it was doin that |
| 05:35 |
Peacock |
some lines dont have closing ".. |
| 05:35 |
dafull97 |
http://pastebin.com/JiAX3sne |
| 05:35 |
dafull97 |
look nopw that is really what it is |
| 05:36 |
Peacock |
jesus fucking christ lol i click "copy text to clipboard" and linux gives me 1 line lol |
| 05:36 |
Peacock |
"its a feature" lol |
| 05:36 |
fu-fu |
Try selecting it all, and middle click. |
| 05:36 |
Peacock |
ok, your last line doesn't need the ... |
| 05:37 |
Peacock |
*.. |
| 05:37 |
dafull97 |
ok.. |
| 05:37 |
Peacock |
http://pastebin.com/nu8gWgCY |
| 05:37 |
dafull97 |
THX! |
| 05:37 |
Peacock |
like that |
| 05:38 |
Peacock |
the double dots are for putting strings together, but you don't need it at the end of the last bit |
| 05:38 |
us^0gb |
Peacock, the dollar signs is why I asked about pico/nano. |
| 05:38 |
dafull97 |
it is nano on ssh in Xubuntu |
| 05:38 |
dafull97 |
LOL |
| 05:38 |
us^0gb |
Sorry, I was away for a bit. |
| 05:38 |
dafull97 |
it works! |
| 05:38 |
Peacock |
ogb: weird formatting lol like converting MS office to libreoffice documents |
| 05:38 |
dafull97 |
thanks guys |
| 05:38 |
us^0gb |
Okay, great! |
| 05:39 |
dafull97 |
+1 Peacock and us^0gb |
| 05:39 |
us^0gb |
Peacock, it's not a formatting issue, it's a "trying to copy what can't be copied" issue. |
| 05:39 |
* Peacock |
takes my + and makes dinner |
| 05:39 |
Peacock |
seriously, i have to feed myself, lest i drop to 120lbs lol |
| 05:39 |
dafull97 |
haha |
| 05:39 |
Peacock |
see ya'll later |
| 05:39 |
us^0gb |
Bye! |
| 05:40 |
dafull97 |
us^0gb, one question |
| 05:40 |
dafull97 |
why does my text look like diagonal |
| 05:40 |
us^0gb |
What do you mean? |
| 05:41 |
VanessaE |
maybe he means italics? |
| 05:42 |
dafull97 |
no it is aligned to got like \ |
| 05:42 |
VanessaE |
odd. |
| 05:42 |
dafull97 |
and cannot see all text... but i think i got it |
| 05:42 |
us^0gb |
Do you mean in the actual game? |
| 05:42 |
dafull97 |
yes |
| 05:42 |
us^0gb |
Screenshot it. |
| 05:42 |
dafull97 |
when pop-up comes |
| 05:44 |
dafull97 |
checking my fix |
| 05:45 |
dafull97 |
i got it! |
| 05:45 |
us^0gb |
Great! |
| 05:45 |
us^0gb |
THough I still don't understand the issue. |
| 05:45 |
dafull97 |
VanessaE is so quiet tonight haha |
| 05:46 |
us^0gb |
She often is. Other times she's the life of the party. It really depends on the current topic and how she feels, I think. |
| 05:46 |
us^0gb |
It's the same for a lot of people here and on other channels. |
| 05:46 |
VanessaE |
been kinda blah lately |
| 05:46 |
VanessaE |
uninspired, depressed. |
| 05:46 |
VanessaE |
hence the quiet. |
| 05:46 |
us^0gb |
I'm sorry to hear that. |
| 05:46 |
dafull97 |
it was going like: http://pastebin.com/fXwVgZ96 |
| 05:47 |
dafull97 |
oh, sorry VanessaE |
| 05:47 |
us^0gb |
Oh, I see. |
| 05:48 |
dafull97 |
good =D |
| 05:50 |
fu-fu |
So, don't suppose anyone's wanting to help me figure out how to get some sort of api(?) or whatever that will allow me to run clients interactivly without a display..? (Idealy for another program entierly, as I don't wan't to throw in a ton of stuff into the client itself.) |
| 05:52 |
us^0gb |
That sounds like something a former friend of mine was trying to do, but he gave up. I don't have any other information though. |
| 05:53 |
fu-fu |
I saw a few posts on the forums, but they where all old and dead.:/ |
| 05:54 |
us^0gb |
Yeah, those were probably his topics. |
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fu-fu |
Well, one was doing it from the renderd scene, and one more like mine... but they both had only a few posts. |
| 06:00 |
fu-fu |
Well, I'm going to see if I can get a std in interface first I guess.. |
| 06:01 |
dafull97 |
us^0gb, see you tomarrow? |
| 06:01 |
us^0gb |
Okay, best of luck. |
| 06:02 |
dafull97 |
u too |
| 06:02 |
us^0gb |
Yeah, I'll probably be here tomorrow after work. |
| 06:02 |
dafull97 |
bye to all |
| 06:02 |
us^0gb |
Bye! |
| 06:02 |
dafull97 |
ok cool =D |
| 06:02 |
dafull97 |
bye |
| 06:03 |
fu-fu |
Enjoy, farewell. |
| 06:04 |
dafull97 |
farewell/bye ha |
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us^0gb |
Bye! |
| 06:04 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 06:06 |
us^0gb |
Hello! |
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nore |
hi all |
| 06:26 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 06:27 |
nore |
do you have that: "forum.minetest.net uses an invalid security certificate."? |
| 06:27 |
Calinou |
https://forum.minetest.net/ and https://forum.minetest.net/ |
| 06:27 |
Calinou |
fine for me |
| 06:27 |
Calinou |
err, minetest.net/forum is just a redirect |
| 06:28 |
nore |
iceweasel says: "The certificate is only valid for the following names: users.minetest.ru , minetest.ru " |
| 06:28 |
us^0gb |
Hello! |
| 06:28 |
Calinou |
I use chromium 28 |
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us^0gb |
Iceweasel, eh? I use a browser from the Iceweasel family and don't get that error. |
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nore |
could someone look at the security certificate he gets? |
| 06:34 |
thexyz |
nore: what ip does forum.minetest.net resolve to for you? |
| 06:35 |
nore |
176.9.187.186 |
| 06:38 |
GNADev|zRokh |
test |
| 06:38 |
GNADev|zRokh |
yes, Calinou, thanks |
| 06:38 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i has a question |
| 06:38 |
Calinou |
np |
| 06:39 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i made the C4 and i got it to remove all blocks from a 1 block radius (Check) and make a sound... but when i make 2 abm's that both use terror:c4 then it doesnt work... |
| 06:39 |
GNADev|zRokh |
the second abm is the beeping |
| 06:41 |
GNADev|zRokh |
then i put them together |
| 06:41 |
Ristovski |
any reason why basic game lags but development one doesnt? |
| 06:42 |
GNADev|zRokh |
development? |
| 06:42 |
GNADev|zRokh |
you mean minimal? |
| 06:42 |
Ristovski |
GNADev|zRokh: when you go in singleplayer |
| 06:42 |
nore |
It works again, I don't know why... |
| 06:42 |
Ristovski |
GNADev|zRokh: yes, that |
| 06:42 |
GNADev|zRokh |
oh, thats because it has a lot less mods and stuff |
| 06:42 |
GNADev|zRokh |
thats why its called minimal |
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GNADev|zRokh |
i think... |
| 06:42 |
Ristovski |
GNADev|zRokh: But.. it.. shouldnt lag |
| 06:43 |
thexyz |
nore: should work now |
| 06:43 |
Ristovski |
GNADev|zRokh: I mean, it lags from graphics |
| 06:43 |
nore |
thexyz, it does |
| 06:43 |
GNADev|zRokh |
dont worry, i get 1-10FPS with OpenGL |
| 06:43 |
nore |
what was the problem? |
| 06:43 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Calinou, http://pastebin.com/vWi2V0nq |
| 06:43 |
thexyz |
nore: I think it was that your browser doesn't support SNI |
| 06:43 |
GNADev|zRokh |
it doesnt work |
| 06:43 |
thexyz |
and now I resolved it by assigning a separate IP to forum.minetest.net |
| 06:43 |
thexyz |
so it should work even in the dumbest browsers! |
| 06:44 |
thexyz |
https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=forum.minetest.net |
| 06:44 |
nore |
ok... I didn't know iceweasel was dumb... |
| 06:44 |
Ristovski |
nore: it actually kinda is |
| 06:46 |
thexyz |
I'm not saying it's dumb; I don't know if that was the real reason it didn't work |
| 06:46 |
thexyz |
most modern browsers should work fine with SNI so that may as well be an error on my end (but ssltest told me everything was fine) |
| 06:48 |
thexyz |
Calinou: please set up a redirect on the wiki or at least add a note that it's deprecated |
| 06:48 |
thexyz |
to every page |
| 06:49 |
thexyz |
somehow |
| 06:49 |
GNADev|zRokh |
ok, i changed the code..... now it doesnt beep, it only "explodes" (without damage to players) |
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| 06:50 |
Calinou |
ok |
| 06:52 |
GNADev|zRokh |
calinou, terror 0.0.1a is almost done :D |
| 06:54 |
GNADev|zRokh |
and i think of changing it from a game to a mod... just a mod |
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GNADev|zRokh |
oh, and Calinou, what do you think about a direct download link and an adfly link? so the user will have a chance to pick :P |
| 07:02 |
Calinou |
stop trying to make money from something that won't give you money |
| 07:04 |
GNADev|zRokh |
well MC mod makers do this :P |
| 07:04 |
Calinou |
stupid MC mod makers* |
| 07:04 |
GNADev|zRokh |
:D |
| 07:04 |
Calinou |
very few of them are successful and deserve using adfly |
| 07:05 |
ruskie |
adfly needs to die a horrible death in fire |
| 07:06 |
ruskie |
worse yet are those that redirect through N such providers |
| 07:08 |
thexyz |
sfan5: did you manage to build leveldb-enabled minetest for windows without boost? |
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sfan5 |
thexyz: yes |
| 07:13 |
sfan5 |
good morning everyone |
| 07:13 |
GNADev|zRokh |
morning |
| 07:16 |
* GNADev|zRokh |
just released version 0.0.1a of Terror https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=112505 |
| 07:16 |
GNADev|zRokh |
sfan5, could i get it to Modding Releases? |
| 07:17 |
sfan5 |
GNADev|zRokh: dependencies missing, license of code and textures missing |
| 07:18 |
GNADev|zRokh |
oh... ok, wait |
| 07:18 |
thexyz |
sfan5: was this merged to master? |
| 07:18 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: no |
| 07:19 |
* sfan5 |
points at bitcoin/bitcoin src/leveldb master |
| 07:19 |
GNADev|zRokh |
GPLv2 or 3? |
| 07:19 |
GNADev|zRokh |
what should i choose? |
| 07:19 |
sfan5 |
GNADev|zRokh: you need to choose yourself |
| 07:19 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i know..... <:/ |
| 07:19 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i'll choose............... 3 :D |
| 07:19 |
GNADev|zRokh |
what does it do? |
| 07:20 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: you can build that with mingw after manually tweaking the config given by "build_detect_platform" |
| 07:23 |
thexyz |
why not? |
| 07:23 |
GNADev|zRokh |
sfan5, done :P |
| 07:24 |
sfan5 |
GNADev|zRokh: that is not GPL but CC-BY-SA |
| 07:24 |
sfan5 |
moved |
| 07:24 |
GNADev|zRokh |
thanks :D |
| 07:25 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i know sfan5, but cc is easier to choose :D |
| 07:25 |
GNADev|zRokh |
if im not mistaking then this is the first mod that i made and has been moved there |
| 07:26 |
GNADev|zRokh |
sfan5, lets celebrate :D |
| 07:26 |
* sfan5 |
puts a kitten on GNADev|zRokh's head |
| 07:27 |
* GNADev|zRokh |
is stuck in a turd of happiness |
| 07:28 |
Calinou |
hurd is turd! |
| 07:28 |
thexyz |
sfan5: is there a non-hacky way to do that? without manually editing files |
| 07:28 |
* Calinou |
gallops away |
| 07:29 |
* GNADev|zRokh |
gallops after Calinou |
| 07:29 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: you can supply some params but that will make it produce a libleveldb.so.1.12 instead of libleveldb.dll |
| 07:30 |
sfan5 |
you could also just download my precompiled one: http://sfan5.pf-control.de/libleveldb-1.12-win32.zip |
| 07:31 |
thexyz |
sfan5: I don't want to download it; I want to have it merged |
| 07:31 |
thexyz |
could you at least open an issue describing what has to be done to build it? |
| 07:32 |
sfan5 |
... |
| 07:37 |
nore |
VanessaE, where is your colors.txt? |
| 07:39 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/colors.txt |
| 07:40 |
VanessaE |
support for streets, stained glass, and home decor are out of date though. |
| 07:40 |
nore |
could you update it to support mg too please? |
| 07:41 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: http://pastie.org/8363968 |
| 07:41 |
VanessaE |
sure at some point I will yes |
| 07:41 |
nore |
it looks like default snow is not supported either |
| 07:41 |
* GNADev|zRokh |
added a skin to the mod |
| 07:41 |
GNADev|zRokh |
VanessaE, check out my mod |
| 07:41 |
VanessaE |
no. |
| 07:41 |
GNADev|zRokh |
why not? <:( |
| 07:41 |
VanessaE |
nore: contributions are welcome :) |
| 07:41 |
VanessaE |
GNADev|zRokh: because I don't have a stomach for terror/horror related stuff |
| 07:41 |
GNADev|zRokh |
its not that bad |
| 07:42 |
GNADev|zRokh |
it only includes the C4 atm... |
| 07:42 |
GNADev|zRokh |
and it doesnt harm the player (yet) |
| 07:42 |
GNADev|zRokh |
and it also includes a skin :D |
| 07:42 |
GNADev|zRokh |
oh, and also Strong gunpowder |
| 07:42 |
VanessaE |
I don't care |
| 07:43 |
VanessaE |
not interested in such stuff |
| 07:43 |
GNADev|zRokh |
:/ |
| 07:44 |
cy1 |
Guns are hard to accomplish in minetest, because each bullet works best as a CAO, and that can add up to a lot of CAOs... |
| 07:44 |
VanessaE |
nore: link to the mg mod again please? |
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VanessaE |
I seem to have lost it. |
| 07:45 |
nore |
https://github.com/Novatux/mg |
| 07:45 |
sfan5 |
-- |
| 07:45 |
VanessaE |
thanks |
| 07:45 |
sfan5 |
nore: you ninja'd me :P |
| 07:45 |
VanessaE |
*looks at textures folder* |
| 07:45 |
VanessaE |
oh that'll be easy enough |
| 07:46 |
thexyz |
sfan5: okay, I understand, creating issue takes time and time is money |
| 07:46 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: I still don't understand what do you want to get merged and where |
| 07:46 |
nore |
VanessaE, all nodes are defined in nodes.lua |
| 07:47 |
nore |
it you want their name... |
| 07:47 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 07:48 |
thexyz |
sfan5: I want someone to merge some code which'd allow easy building of boost-less leveldb-enabled build of Minetest for Windows. Changing some files by hand is not what I consider "easy". |
| 07:49 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: merge some code into ? |
| 07:49 |
thexyz |
into minetest |
| 07:49 |
sfan5 |
ah, so you want the leveldb source code in minetest again |
| 07:49 |
thexyz |
no, I've never said such thing |
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* sfan5 |
is confused |
| 07:49 |
thexyz |
okay, forget it then |
| 07:50 |
sfan5 |
I don't quite get it |
| 07:50 |
thexyz |
then it'll be even easier to forget |
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VanessaE |
nore: Y U NO USE moretrees nodes for mg pines/pine wood? :( |
| 07:55 |
VanessaE |
ok, mg support has been added to colors.txt |
| 07:56 |
VanessaE |
at least, what I was able to gather from the textures and contents of nodes.lua |
| 07:56 |
VanessaE |
de-download colors.txt and let me know if I missed something. |
| 07:56 |
VanessaE |
er, NOW it has been updated. |
| 07:56 |
VanessaE |
forgot to upload it :P |
| 07:57 |
nore |
thanks |
| 07:57 |
VanessaE |
HDX support will be soon |
| 08:00 |
nore |
VanessaE: Unknown node names: mg:savannaleaves mg:dirt_with_dry_grass mg:savannatree default:snow mg:pineleaves default:dirt_with_snow mg:pinetree default:ice stairs:slab_stonebrick stairs:stair_stonebrick stairs:slab_stonebrickupside_down |
| 08:00 |
* GNADev|zRokh |
added recipes to the mod |
| 08:00 |
GNADev|zRokh |
bye |
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| 08:01 |
VanessaE |
re-download it. the mg: nodes are in there. |
| 08:02 |
nore |
and default:snow, default:dirt_with_snow? |
| 08:02 |
VanessaE |
not yet, I'll do those now |
| 08:03 |
us^0gb |
I found another hole in my map after starting it over .... WHere are all these holes coming from? |
| 08:03 |
nore |
us^0gb, with mg? |
| 08:03 |
us^0gb |
Is "mg" the map generator? |
| 08:03 |
nore |
and what do you mean, a hole? |
| 08:03 |
nore |
mg is a Lua map generator |
| 08:04 |
nore |
https://github.com/Novatux/mg |
| 08:04 |
us^0gb |
I mean an emptiness. A huge area filled with nothing, not even air. CONTENT_IGNORE seems to "fill" the space, but that's it. |
| 08:05 |
us^0gb |
I'm not using that, no. |
| 08:05 |
nore |
and it is not generating the map there, is it? |
| 08:05 |
us^0gb |
It doesn't seem to be. |
| 08:06 |
kahrl |
I've seen those mapgen glitches sometimes |
| 08:06 |
kahrl |
don't know where they come from |
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us^0gb |
I've seen them in my last three maps. |
| 08:07 |
VanessaE |
nore: ok, colors.txt has been updated again, default with snow/ice nodes. |
| 08:07 |
us^0gb |
Maps I haven;t used long. |
| 08:07 |
us^0gb |
It doesn't bode well. |
| 08:07 |
VanessaE |
as for the stairs/stairsplus/moreblocks, that whole subsection needs some work |
| 08:08 |
VanessaE |
(I need to come up with some kind of script to generate those parts so they can be more easily updated) |
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kahrl |
perhaps the syntax of colors.txt could be extended |
| 08:14 |
VanessaE |
naw |
| 08:14 |
kahrl |
so that if you say mod1:node1 mod2:node2, it uses the color from mod2:node2 for mod1:node1 |
| 08:14 |
kahrl |
that could be useful for that script |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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arsdragonfly |
Hi |
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VanessaE |
hi |
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proller |
channel noobity critically increased. |
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dafull97 |
Hey Guys |
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dafull97 |
prestotron.. yu stll here? =D |
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dafull97 |
Hey guys, what time is it |
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dafull97 |
wher you live |
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dafull97 |
same =D |
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UniversalBuilder |
Hello? |
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UniversalBuilder |
Why is there a lv and hv> |
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UniversalBuilder |
and hwat do they mean? |
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kaeza |
UniversalBuilder, technic? |
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dafull97 |
Hey |
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kaeza |
Low Voltage and High Voltage |
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kaeza |
(and Medium Voltage in case of MV) |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Pass VERSION_EXTRA to GenerateVersion.cmake 2134316c80 2013-09-29T07:05:09-07:00 http://git.io/GLGvcQ |
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UniversalBuilder |
toh ok, thanks |
| 14:10 |
UniversalBuilder |
whats the point of having lv, mv, and hv? |
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nore |
you use technic, right? |
| 14:10 |
UniversalBuilder |
Naw |
| 14:10 |
UniversalBuilder |
but im new, and im trying to figure out how it works |
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UniversalBuilder |
<-----noob |
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nore |
mv and hv are more powerful than lv, but they are more expensive |
| 14:13 |
UniversalBuilder |
oh |
| 14:14 |
UniversalBuilder |
twhen do you know what power to choose? |
| 14:14 |
UniversalBuilder |
what situation would have you choose a certain one? |
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PilzAdam |
I guess it depends on the machine you want to power |
| 14:16 |
UniversalBuilder |
what machines require certain power levls? |
| 14:25 |
werwerwer |
open folder mods/technic/technic/machines. there are three folders there - lv, mv, hv. machines are described in these folders accordingly their power level |
| 14:25 |
UniversalBuilder |
ohhh, ok thanks |
| 14:25 |
werwerwer |
if you're talking about technic mod |
| 14:25 |
UniversalBuilder |
I see |
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UniversalBuilder |
Wait |
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UniversalBuilder |
I can;t find it in the source code |
| 14:28 |
UniversalBuilder |
\ |
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UniversalBuilder |
:\ |
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werwerwer |
UniversalBuilder what exactly you can't find in source code? |
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UniversalBuilder |
the specific power level |
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werwerwer |
well, i can. i open file nuclear_reactor.lua, for example, and there's line "meta:set_int("HV_EU_supply", 0)" |
| 14:36 |
UniversalBuilder |
oh ok |
| 14:38 |
UniversalBuilder |
can you find it here: https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-megapack/blob/master/mods/technic/grinder.lua ? |
| 14:39 |
werwerwer |
it's in lv |
| 14:41 |
UniversalBuilder |
howd you know? |
| 14:44 |
werwerwer |
well... you're right. it's impossible to say this from this file. and i'm not sure that in this version it's really lv |
| 14:45 |
UniversalBuilder |
oh ok |
| 14:45 |
UniversalBuilder |
but how idd you nkow it was lv? |
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kaeza |
uhh... |
| 14:47 |
werwerwer |
because in current version of technic grinder is registered like this https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/master/technic/machines/LV/init.lua |
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UniversalBuilder |
Ohh, thanks |
| 14:50 |
UniversalBuilder |
tI understand everything now :-) |
| 14:51 |
UniversalBuilder |
thanks so much dude |
| 14:51 |
dafull97 |
Server runenrs, how do i remove all Bones for the world's land (like off the ground?) |
| 14:55 |
VanessaE |
dafull97: uninstall the mod, then make a small fake mod that just aliases it to air or something, or which uses an ABM to delete them. |
| 14:56 |
dafull97 |
would admintools mod work? |
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VanessaE |
idk |
| 15:05 |
dafull97 |
have you used maptools? |
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codehero |
someone here playing minetest with dvorak for programmers? |
| 15:13 |
nore |
it has been said there were bugs with that keyboard layout |
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| 15:14 |
codehero |
yupp |
| 15:15 |
codehero |
the special keys like / don't work |
| 15:15 |
Wuzzy |
OMG. Just checked minetest.net |
| 15:15 |
Wuzzy |
Seen that my post about pyramids is there ... I lol’d |
| 15:15 |
codehero |
:D |
| 15:16 |
Wuzzy |
But a link to the UFOs mod should be there, too. <https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4086> |
| 15:17 |
CraigyDavi |
Would anyone know how i could run my server without me being online in-game |
| 15:17 |
CraigyDavi |
whenever i quit to menu the server shuts down too |
| 15:18 |
PilzAdam |
CraigyDavi, start the server from a command line |
| 15:18 |
CraigyDavi |
so would i open a command line in bin? |
| 15:19 |
PilzAdam |
yea, then start minetestserver or minetest --server |
| 15:20 |
CraigyDavi |
so would I type minetest.exe --Server --worldname? |
| 15:23 |
ShadowNinja |
CraigyDavi: Lowercase 's' and a world name after --worldname. |
| 15:24 |
CraigyDavi |
thanks! |
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codehero |
the inventory in multiplayer is so buggy :P |
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PilzAdam |
codehero, its not buggy at all |
| 15:30 |
PilzAdam |
it just lags a bit |
| 15:30 |
codehero |
well.. |
| 15:30 |
codehero |
a bit? |
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codehero |
you put something in the crafting grid and it just jumps back in the inventory |
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codehero |
you move stuff around in the crafting grid and it jumps around like crazy |
| 15:32 |
PilzAdam |
make one move and wait |
| 15:32 |
PilzAdam |
dont start throwing items arround when you notice lag, that makes it only worse |
| 15:33 |
codehero |
hmmmm okay |
| 15:33 |
codehero |
i still don't understand why this is done on the server and not in the client |
| 15:34 |
Wuzzy |
Hi, how do I use LuaVoxelManip? |
| 15:35 |
PilzAdam |
codehero, cheating |
| 15:36 |
codehero |
but can't you just do it like. person wants to craft this, check if he has the resources to do it. if he has them give him the thing he wants to craft |
| 15:36 |
jin_xi |
Wuzzy: http://pastebin.com/x0DFYXQD did you look at this example? |
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PilzAdam |
codehero, I dont know if the clients even get the crafting recipes to get a prediction like this |
| 15:38 |
codehero |
hmmm |
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codehero |
then you'd have to send them while downloading the other stuff |
| 15:38 |
codehero |
i think i'll take a look at the code sometime |
| 15:38 |
Wuzzy |
jin_xi: No. I looked at a lot examples and I am not sure wheather I fully understood LVM. |
| 15:39 |
Wuzzy |
jin_xi: For example, I see this light stuff in the code. Is this mandatory? |
| 15:39 |
jin_xi |
no |
| 15:39 |
PilzAdam |
codehero, if someone does inventory prediction some time in a sane way then its good |
| 15:39 |
Wuzzy |
So when do I need to use the lighting stuff? |
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jin_xi |
when you want to update the lighting after you add nodes i guess |
| 15:40 |
PilzAdam |
when you place large enough things that require a recalculation of the light |
| 15:40 |
PilzAdam |
and you dont need to do that in mapgen |
| 15:41 |
Wuzzy |
What is “large enough� |
| 15:41 |
codehero |
i'm relearning C+ anyways and i'll have to look for some projects for improving my skills, so that might be a good idea :P |
| 15:41 |
prestotron55 |
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| 15:41 |
kahrl |
the crafting recipes could be sent to the client (they aren't currently), there even is existing serialization code, but it has to be done in a way that doesn't make connecting to a server even slower |
| 15:41 |
kahrl |
horrendously slower, anyway |
| 15:41 |
codehero |
huh |
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PilzAdam |
Wuzzy, when you place a node that should produce shadow under it |
| 15:42 |
codehero |
it seems to me like the client is only doing the display, sound, and key stuff |
| 15:42 |
PilzAdam |
so if you e.g. just place a mountain on a flat land, then there are no nodes that produce shadow |
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codehero |
much like a vnc client :P |
| 15:42 |
PilzAdam |
however, if there are caves, then you need to recalc lighting to get the caves dark |
| 15:43 |
Wuzzy |
Okay. Are there any docs for LuaVoxelManip yet, besides lua_api.txt? The lua_api.txt only seems like a quick reference to me for those who already know how LuaVoxelManip works. :-/ |
| 15:43 |
dafull97 |
PilzAdam! |
| 15:43 |
jin_xi |
there is nothing more to it |
| 15:43 |
Wuzzy |
Bummer! |
| 15:44 |
prestotron55 |
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| 15:44 |
jin_xi |
Wuzzy: its ok to ask, but you need to be specific to get a good answer |
| 15:45 |
PilzAdam |
Wuzzy, have you checked the topic in the news section? |
| 15:45 |
kahrl |
Wuzzy, see hmmmm's example here http://pastebin.com/x0DFYXQD |
| 15:46 |
dafull97 |
who made the admin_tools mod? |
| 15:46 |
prestotron55 |
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Wuzzy |
Google yields nothing. I don’t understand what’s unspecific about “Is there a documentation?â€. Yes, I have checked the topic. Yes, I have seen the example. If any of that would have helped me to understand the LuaVoxelManip, I would not have bothered you. |
| 15:47 |
dafull97 |
ohh, can someone assist me? |
| 15:47 |
prestotron55 |
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| 15:48 |
PilzAdam |
Wuzzy, there is no tutorial or similiar |
| 15:48 |
dafull97 |
i installed on my server and tried running it and it gives me error |
| 15:48 |
Wuzzy |
I fear that the example is … well … just an example. I fear that I still miss some ideas/principles of the LVM. |
| 15:48 |
sfan5 |
Wuzzy: try reading the code of some mods utilizing vmanip |
| 15:48 |
PilzAdam |
Wuzzy, I could help you if you tell me what you already know about the vmanip |
| 15:48 |
sfan5 |
(like WorldEdit, "mg" mapgen) |
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prestotron55 |
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Wuzzy |
I did not ask for a tutorial, I asked for documentation. |
| 15:49 |
sfan5 |
-> lua_api.txt |
| 15:49 |
sfan5 |
that is enough doc |
| 15:49 |
sfan5 |
!dev Voxelmanip |
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prestotron55 |
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sfan5 |
MinetestBot! |
| 15:49 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5! |
| 15:49 |
prestotron55 |
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| 15:49 |
Wuzzy |
This is just a quick reference for those who already understood it. |
| 15:50 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 15:50 |
prestotron55 |
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| 15:50 |
jin_xi |
Wuzzy: no need to fear, there is not so much to it. it just allows you to set nodes in bulk. thats the whole idea/principle |
| 15:50 |
dafull97 |
prestotron55, yes... i will pastebin error |
| 15:50 |
prestotron55 |
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| 15:51 |
Wuzzy |
Whut? That’s everything? Nothing fancy about LVM? LOL, and I thought it would be the uber complicated thing. |
| 15:51 |
Wuzzy |
Well, thanks then. |
| 15:51 |
Jordach |
nore, have you modified npcf to work with MG |
| 15:51 |
Jordach |
(why cant we install that and see the results |
| 15:51 |
dafull97 |
prestotron55, http://pastebin.com/Af4qYS3a |
| 15:52 |
prestotron55 |
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| 15:52 |
dafull97 |
ok, one sec |
| 15:54 |
nore |
Jordach, no |
| 15:54 |
nore |
but you can :) |
| 15:55 |
Jordach |
nore, why dont we just /spawnentity <npcf-something>:<npc_name> and see the results |
| 15:55 |
Jordach |
only guards / miners should leave the village |
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| 15:56 |
Jordach |
farmers may remove fully grown cotton / wheat - and put it in a chest (the pubs?) |
| 15:56 |
Jordach |
bakers may furnace the dough to make bread |
| 15:56 |
Jordach |
(actually, a bakery would be nice) |
| 15:57 |
Jordach |
blacksmiths might every now and then add swords / tools into the chests around the smithy |
| 15:57 |
prestotron55 |
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| 15:58 |
dafull97 |
i know, im ssh to my VPS... so i have to copy session by session |
| 15:58 |
dafull97 |
more like copy and paste 20 line a time |
| 15:59 |
PilzAdam |
dafull97, what? you want to tell us that you cant download files over ssh? |
| 15:59 |
prestotron55 |
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| 16:00 |
dafull97 |
so just delete file and paste that? |
| 16:01 |
Jordach |
btw, i just normally copy the files into apache2 |
| 16:01 |
Jordach |
then download them via my browser |
| 16:01 |
dafull97 |
Jordach, yes i just d\thought about that... but im done already haha |
| 16:01 |
prestotron55 |
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kaeza |
11:58:23: ACTION[ServerThread]: CHAT: <Matt> hi im new |
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* Jordach |
now has a sore chest muscle |
| 16:03 |
kaeza |
11:59:18: ACTION[ServerThread]: CHAT: <Matt> u do know uddinator and josh are part owners of minetest they can shut ur server down |
| 16:03 |
Jordach |
PLOLOLOLOL |
| 16:03 |
Jordach |
it really hurts to laugh |
| 16:03 |
PilzAdam |
plol |
| 16:04 |
kaeza |
somehow this 'Josh' keeps evading my bans |
| 16:04 |
dafull97 |
prestotron55, still error |
| 16:05 |
kaeza |
(no biggie, I did /revoke Josh all, but still annoying) |
| 16:05 |
prestotron55 |
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| 16:05 |
dafull97 |
it is insdie my vps |
| 16:05 |
Jordach |
kaeza, ask peacock for his autoban code |
| 16:05 |
dafull97 |
server wont start |
| 16:05 |
Jordach |
actually, wait, i might have it as a pastebin |
| 16:06 |
Jordach |
kaeza, ipconfig |
| 16:06 |
kaeza |
Jordach, he even evades xban :/ |
| 16:06 |
nore |
Jordach, what happens if you add an NPC in the village? |
| 16:06 |
Jordach |
nore, havent tested yet |
| 16:06 |
Jordach |
kaeza, Peacock's IP ban code: http://pastebin.com/2nvTvrLq |
| 16:06 |
Jordach |
(it also does nicks) |
| 16:07 |
kaeza |
hmm |
| 16:07 |
Jordach |
that might be a soloution |
| 16:07 |
kaeza |
it more or less does the same as xban |
| 16:08 |
Jordach |
kaeza, it also bans guests |
| 16:08 |
Jordach |
(handily) |
| 16:08 |
dafull97 |
prestotron55, new error: http://pastebin.com/sueigRY6 |
| 16:08 |
kaeza |
may install that later to see if it works |
| 16:08 |
dafull97 |
in depends.txt i put default |
| 16:08 |
prestotron55 |
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| 16:08 |
Jordach |
kaeza, OR: write a mod that basically checks joining play's nicks; then ban only "Josh" through regex |
| 16:08 |
Jordach |
player's* |
| 16:09 |
prestotron55 |
[deleted] |
| 16:09 |
Jordach |
because denial at join_player is a PURE stop. |
| 16:09 |
kaeza |
(on a side note, and to be clear, this is not the Josh from the forums) |
| 16:09 |
Jordach |
ah |
| 16:10 |
* Jordach |
waits for git to start |
| 16:10 |
kaeza |
> git > start |
| 16:10 |
Jordach |
kaeza, Github's client also has a CLI interface that just so happens to use Powershell |
| 16:10 |
Jordach |
(Powershell takes it's time, not Git) |
| 16:11 |
prestotron55 |
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| 16:11 |
Calinou |
that's what she said |
| 16:11 |
kaeza |
Jordach, bash takes no time at all :3 |
| 16:11 |
Jordach |
sfan5, your thingy still running |
| 16:11 |
Jordach |
kaeza, true |
| 16:12 |
Jordach |
hmm |
| 16:14 |
Jordach |
!up 81.153.28.202 |
| 16:14 |
MinetestBot |
81.153.28.202:30000 is up (279ms) |
| 16:14 |
prestotron55 |
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| 16:14 |
MinetestBot |
prestotron55! |
| 16:15 |
nore |
Jordach, what is this server? |
| 16:15 |
Jordach |
nore, i've just found a village |
| 16:16 |
Jordach |
then i'll install the npcf |
| 16:16 |
nore |
and you will try to make it work with villages? |
| 16:16 |
Jordach |
i can *barely* code in Lua |
| 16:17 |
Jordach |
we just want to see how the npc's react to MG villlages |
| 16:17 |
dafull97 |
prestotron55, sorry... was getting lunch... and no it gave me error |
| 16:17 |
dafull97 |
im gonna try to reinstall |
| 16:17 |
prestotron55 |
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nore |
!up 81.153.28.202 |
| 16:18 |
MinetestBot |
81.153.28.202:30000 seems to be down |
| 16:18 |
Jordach |
rebooting in progress |
| 16:21 |
prestotron55 |
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| 16:21 |
MinetestBot |
prestotron55: Sorry, I haven't seen celeron55 around. |
| 16:22 |
dafull97 |
prestotron55, still not work.. idk seems like junk ;/ :( |
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prestotron55 |
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thefamilygrog66 |
howdy folks |
| 16:25 |
prestotron55 |
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| 16:26 |
Krock |
Hello |
| 16:26 |
prestotron55 |
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| 16:26 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I added a new bean to my magic beans mod: http://i.imgur.com/lSBsGow.png |
| 16:26 |
LazyJ |
Becoming quite the modder there, Grog. ;) |
| 16:27 |
prestotron55 |
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| 16:27 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Haha, thanks. You know I'm a hack, LazyJ! |
| 16:27 |
* prestotron55 |
will be away for about 15 minutes while he finishes one of his 3 mods hes working on and releases it |
| 16:27 |
Jordach |
well that's really helpful stu |
| 16:27 |
LazyJ |
Code writing 101 = Ctrl+c and Ctrl+v :D |
| 16:28 |
prestotron55 |
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| 16:28 |
Jordach |
there's no documentation on SPAWNING NPCs |
| 16:28 |
Jordach |
Medieval* |
| 16:28 |
prestotron55 |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Oh yeah, the textures for the beanstalk are all 16px, Jordach. |
| 16:28 |
Jordach |
:3 |
| 16:29 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Except for magicbeans_blank.png |
| 16:29 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Which is INVISIBLE. |
| 16:29 |
LazyJ |
The "Magic Beans" concept is a good one. Especially for the younger players. |
| 16:30 |
thefamilygrog66 |
An invisible climbable block - that's gonna be trouble. |
| 16:30 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: hm? |
| 16:30 |
thefamilygrog66 |
For sure, LazyJ - my six-year-old son Simonster inspired the idea. |
| 16:31 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Speaking of trouble, the beanstalks are totally destructive as well - they'll grow through anything. |
| 16:31 |
dafull97 |
the server was working fine, it somthing with the mod |
| 16:31 |
dafull97 |
prestotron55 ^^ |
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| 16:32 |
dafull97 |
the server software is fine |
| 16:32 |
* thefamilygrog66 |
can't get the damn sethbling closing tune out of his head |
| 16:33 |
LazyJ |
Hmm... An MT game designed for 6 and under. |
| 16:33 |
dafull97 |
it was working |
| 16:33 |
dafull97 |
the mod isnt... if i disable it works |
| 16:33 |
prestotron55 |
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| 16:33 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Don't let his age fool ya, LazyJ. He's a minecraft redstone pro! |
| 16:34 |
VanessaE |
mediafire is evil. |
| 16:34 |
VanessaE |
(as is dropbox and every other upload site :P ) |
| 16:34 |
prestotron55 |
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| 16:34 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, bullshit |
| 16:34 |
LazyJ |
I have a 9mo niece. Skyped with "Grandma" and all the baby toys got me thinking. |
| 16:34 |
VanessaE |
I was joking, jeez :) |
| 16:34 |
prestotron55 |
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| 16:34 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, where else am i going to stick < 22mb files |
| 16:34 |
LazyJ |
"Bob blocks" was written for his youngins wasn'it? |
| 16:34 |
Jordach |
sfan5's is tight with the file size |
| 16:35 |
thefamilygrog66 |
mediafire infected my computer. |
| 16:35 |
thefamilygrog66 |
just kidding. |
| 16:35 |
Jordach |
thefamilygrog66, adblock :P |
| 16:35 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: mega? ;) |
| 16:35 |
Jordach |
lol |
| 16:35 |
Jordach |
i'll use that when i fill my mf |
| 16:35 |
Jordach |
(which is 333mb of 50gb) |
| 16:35 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I'm just getting annoyed with sites with tonnes of bogus "download" buttons all over the place. |
| 16:35 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Makes me have to think. |
| 16:36 |
Jordach |
thefamilygrog66, adblock+ |
| 16:36 |
Jordach |
!g adblock+ |
| 16:36 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/ |
| 16:37 |
prestotron55 |
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| 16:37 |
Calinou |
"virus scan" |
| 16:37 |
Calinou |
totally... |
| 16:37 |
Calinou |
it's marketing BS |
| 16:37 |
Calinou |
like firefox saying it scans for viruses after a download |
| 16:37 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I guess you missed the "just kidding" part, prestotron55. |
| 16:37 |
prestotron55 |
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| 16:37 |
thefamilygrog66 |
hehe |
| 16:37 |
Jordach |
nore, get yo ass on my server again |
| 16:38 |
kahrl |
virus scanning is an undecidable problem... |
| 16:38 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Yes LazyJ, I believe bobblocks was written for his kids. |
| 16:38 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Kids know what's fun. |
| 16:39 |
LazyJ |
As a dad, do think there would be enough interest in a "MineTyke" game geared for very young kids? |
| 16:40 |
Calinou |
sounds like a game created by Robin Thicke |
| 16:40 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Hmm, possibly - as I mentioned, Simonster's pretty advanced with this stuff. People don't believe he's only six when they see him in action on servers. |
| 16:41 |
Jordach |
crash crash crash |
| 16:41 |
Jordach |
access violation MY ASS |
| 16:41 |
Jordach |
i hit the enter key and shit like that happens |
| 16:41 |
LazyJ |
Get them hooked while they are young. |
| 16:41 |
prestotron55 |
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| 16:41 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Hmm, ass and violation probably shouldn't be in the same sentence, Jordach. |
| 16:41 |
Jordach |
plo |
| 16:41 |
Jordach |
plol |
| 16:41 |
Jordach |
owch |
| 16:43 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Hey, how's this for a protection idea: an invisible, invincible block that players can place around their builds... |
| 16:43 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Yeah, I know, too much potential for abuse. |
| 16:43 |
kaeza |
maptools? |
| 16:44 |
thefamilygrog66 |
An actual node that can be placed, but not seen though. |
| 16:44 |
kaeza |
allow build prevention to be craftable |
| 16:44 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Hmm... |
| 16:45 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I wanted to make a spiral leaves pattern around the central beanstalk in my mod, so I added air nodes accordingly. Unfortunately, that made it annoying/impossible to climb, so I created a new, invisible node that's also climbable and used it instead. |
| 16:48 |
prestotron55 |
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| 16:48 |
prestotron55 |
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| 16:48 |
prestotron55 |
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| 16:48 |
MinetestBot |
prestotron55: [mod] Medeival Tools (Page 1) — Modding General — Minetest Forums |
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Jordach |
thefamilygrog66, http://i.imgur.com/IACCO0O.png |
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thefamilygrog66 |
dungeon master, Jordach? |
| 16:50 |
Jordach |
yes |
| 16:50 |
Jordach |
accurate to the original textures |
| 16:51 |
* Jordach |
has a hot water bottle relaxing the torn stomach muscle (IBS is no fun and hurts a lot) |
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flecha |
hello! is there a way to make server reload scripts (mods) without closeing and reopening it? |
| 16:53 |
nore |
no |
| 16:53 |
Jordach |
nope |
| 16:53 |
Jordach |
ninja'd :( |
| 16:53 |
flecha |
=( |
| 16:53 |
Jordach |
flecha, just warn the users that an update (or planned downtime) will occur |
| 16:54 |
Jordach |
if they won't leave, just restart anyway: they were WARNED. |
| 16:54 |
flecha |
it's only me and my girlfriend |
| 16:54 |
Jordach |
flecha, then that's not really an issue |
| 16:55 |
flecha |
but it takes too much to reload the game... |
| 16:55 |
flecha |
because we are using too many mods |
| 16:55 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Say whatnow? |
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flecha |
So I wanted a way to update the server without reloaing the client |
| 16:55 |
sfan5 |
!re |
| 16:55 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Give me a regex and a message seperated by ` |
| 16:55 |
Jordach |
woah |
| 16:55 |
sfan5 |
!re (.*)/upload/([^/]*)`/upload/out.png |
| 16:56 |
MinetestBot |
true groups=[''] |
| 16:56 |
Jordach |
when have we had /msg in minetest |
| 16:57 |
flecha |
and how do I find the id of one item? |
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kaeza |
:I |
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* Evergreen |
thinks it might be windows |
| 17:05 |
prestotron55 |
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| 17:05 |
Calinou |
same as Evergreen :P |
| 17:05 |
Calinou |
lol, elementary |
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prestotron55 |
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Evergreen |
I don't have windows Calinou |
| 17:06 |
Evergreen |
What DM? |
| 17:06 |
Evergreen |
Or just use gimp |
| 17:06 |
prestotron55 |
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| 17:06 |
Evergreen |
In the file menu the path is file > create >from screenshot |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
Evergreen: DM is desktop manager, such as gdm, lightdm, xdm... |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
DE is desktop environment, such as gnome, kde, xfce... |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
WM is window manager, such as compiz, kwin, xfwm... |
| 17:07 |
prestotron55 |
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| 17:07 |
Evergreen |
Whoops, sorry |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
it's ok :) |
| 17:07 |
Evergreen |
DE then |
| 17:07 |
prestotron55 |
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| 17:07 |
Calinou |
john_minetest: my grandparents have 8/1Mbits |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
I have 4.4/0.3mbits here... |
| 17:08 |
prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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thefamilygrog66 |
F12 key, prestotron55. |
| 17:08 |
Calinou |
+1 |
| 17:09 |
prestotron55 |
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| 17:09 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Look in the bin folder for .png image files |
| 17:09 |
prestotron55 |
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| 17:09 |
thefamilygrog66 |
It works regardless of operating system. |
| 17:09 |
thefamilygrog66 |
That's messed up. |
| 17:10 |
thefamilygrog66 |
You could always just hit the PrtSc key, open GIMP and select edit, paste as new image. |
| 17:10 |
prestotron55 |
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| 17:11 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I've had to do that for taking screenshots of formspec menus. |
| 17:12 |
thefamilygrog66 |
or wordpad for that matter |
| 17:12 |
prestotron55 |
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| 17:13 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I prefer geany myself. |
| 17:13 |
Evergreen |
I use scite or geany for most stuff |
| 17:14 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Know of any good editors for android tablets? |
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Peacock |
i prefer lemon pledge |
| 17:15 |
thefamilygrog66 |
thanks, I'll look it up. Polish that shit, Peacock! |
| 17:15 |
Peacock |
Why Polish when you can Czechoslovakia? |
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| 17:16 |
thefamilygrog66 |
That isn't even a country anymore, man. Haha. |
| 17:16 |
Peacock |
its not? |
| 17:16 |
Peacock |
damn |
| 17:17 |
Peacock |
i did find lovely brochures for vacations in Rhodesia |
| 17:17 |
kaeza |
yey https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1790381318.jpg |
| 17:17 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I dunno, thought it split or something. I'm just a slow Canadian, remember. |
| 17:17 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Looks like you have some classy guests, kaeza. |
| 17:18 |
kaeza |
thefamilygrog66, indeed |
| 17:18 |
ShadowNinja |
/xban /rollback :-) |
| 17:18 |
kaeza |
such creativity really amazes me |
| 17:18 |
Peacock |
how do you suck half cock? |
| 17:18 |
kaeza |
ShadowNinja, does /rollback revert signs? |
| 17:18 |
Peacock |
is that like dwarf-fellatio or something? |
| 17:19 |
thefamilygrog66 |
There ya go, going off half-cocked again, Peacock. |
| 17:19 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Hahaha |
| 17:19 |
ShadowNinja |
kaeza: IDK, I don't think so unfourtunately. |
| 17:19 |
Peacock |
people grief then they're gone like piss in the wind XD |
| 17:20 |
kaeza |
lel https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1790680148.jpg |
| 17:20 |
jin_xi |
nice cactus |
| 17:21 |
Peacock |
you have protection tho keza, does it not cover signs? |
| 17:21 |
Evergreen |
Really, sign griefers don't do anything more than make people lol |
| 17:21 |
kaeza |
nope |
| 17:21 |
Evergreen |
Unless you are a ten year old or something |
| 17:22 |
kaeza |
I have protector blocks, and locked signs, but people seem to use normal signs more |
| 17:22 |
Peacock |
for my protection thingy i made a verify(pos,playername) function that i use for diff things like signs, water tanks, machines |
| 17:22 |
kaeza |
inb4 Vanessa pokes me to add locked signs to homedecor :))) |
| 17:25 |
Peacock |
peoples on my server are surprised they get banned automatically for fucking w/ signs too lol |
| 17:26 |
thefamilygrog66 |
back in a bit |
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| 17:31 |
Peacock |
yar, textures ahoy! http://s11.postimg.org/c0wao1klf/screenshot_1789586453.png |
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prestotron55 |
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| 17:32 |
Peacock |
in the process of eliminating similar ones now |
| 17:32 |
Peacock |
otherwise moblocks would have roughly 250 textures lol |
| 17:32 |
Peacock |
*mblocks |
| 17:38 |
Jordach |
prestotron55, WUBI != true Linux |
| 17:38 |
Jordach |
it's a VM |
| 17:38 |
Jordach |
the disk is stored on C:\ |
| 17:39 |
Calinou |
Windows Ubuntu Installer |
| 17:39 |
Jordach |
that stupid ass useless installer for Ubuntu that doesnt need a disk |
| 17:39 |
Calinou |
thing that is terrible by today's standards :P |
| 17:39 |
Jordach |
+1 |
| 17:39 |
Jordach |
even i at least use DVD-ROM for installing from |
| 17:40 |
Jordach |
faster, easier; and supported indefinitely |
| 17:40 |
prestotron55 |
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| 17:40 |
Jordach |
prestotron55, you don't deserve computer science |
| 17:41 |
* Calinou |
uses USB too |
| 17:41 |
prestotron55 |
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| 17:41 |
Calinou |
john_minetest: partitioning is considered difficult |
| 17:41 |
Calinou |
also, aren't you on arch? |
| 17:41 |
Calinou |
arch is far from easy to install |
| 17:41 |
Jordach |
because you ask stupid questions that everyone knows |
| 17:41 |
prestotron55 |
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| 17:42 |
Calinou |
not for nearly everyone then |
| 17:42 |
Jordach |
prestotron55, WUBI sucks |
| 17:42 |
Jordach |
btw, there is just more to Linux than Ubuntu |
| 17:43 |
prestotron55 |
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| 17:43 |
Jordach |
prestotron55, you really are a dumb PoS |
| 17:43 |
Jordach |
Linux refers to the KERNEL. someone know KNOWS COMPUTER SCIENCE would tell you that |
| 17:44 |
prestotron55 |
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| 17:44 |
Jordach |
Ubuntu installed from USB / DVD does not need a boot disc, what is this? 1986? |
| 17:45 |
Calinou |
you can do partitioning on ubuntu yourself, using gparted |
| 17:45 |
Calinou |
this is what I did |
| 17:45 |
Jordach |
prestotron55, you fail to understand that DIY is better than some automated tool |
| 17:45 |
Jordach |
oi proller, it's trolling time |
| 17:45 |
Jordach |
</summoning> |
| 17:45 |
Calinou |
prestotron55: WUBI is slower and doesn't work with UEFI |
| 17:45 |
prestotron55 |
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| 17:45 |
Jordach |
DIY refers to Live Images and installing from that |
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prestotron55 |
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| 17:46 |
Jordach |
prestotron55, i'll throw $5 at you if you manage to get coreboot going |
| 17:46 |
prestotron55 |
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| 17:46 |
Calinou |
UEFI and secure boot are not linked, john_minetest |
| 17:46 |
Calinou |
UEFI is good, it's more modern |
| 17:46 |
Calinou |
secure boot is bad though |
| 17:47 |
prestotron55 |
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| 17:47 |
Calinou |
I installed in BIOS mode too |
| 17:47 |
Calinou |
but my SSD uses a GPT partition table |
| 17:48 |
prestotron55 |
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| 17:48 |
Jordach |
prestotron55, what if i told you that if your C:\ drive fucks, and your Pen Drive breaks: DVD works the best in this situation |
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prestotron55 |
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| 17:49 |
* Calinou |
doesn't have a DVD drive on both desktop and netbook |
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| 17:50 |
OldCoder |
Hi! |
| 17:50 |
* prestotron55 |
cheers for john_minetest WOOT |
| 17:50 |
Calinou |
hi OldCoder |
| 17:50 |
OldCoder |
john_minetest, You start school tomorrow |
| 17:50 |
OldCoder |
Calinou, Hey! |
| 17:50 |
prestotron55 |
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| 17:50 |
OldCoder |
john_minetest, Looking forward to it? |
| 17:50 |
OldCoder |
prestotron55, Hey back |
| 17:50 |
prestotron55 |
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| 17:50 |
OldCoder |
MinetestBot does not seem social :-) |
| 17:50 |
Jordach |
http://imgur.com/gallery/fN6916d |
| 17:50 |
OldCoder |
Orientation |
| 17:51 |
OldCoder |
It will be fine |
| 17:51 |
MinetestBot |
I am social OldCoder, I just don't like being talked to that often |
| 17:51 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, R |
| 17:51 |
OldCoder |
Ah! |
| 17:51 |
OldCoder |
The clarification is appreciated |
| 17:51 |
MinetestBot |
Not to mention it's my job being here 24/7 assisting users with my abilities. |
| 17:51 |
prestotron55 |
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| 17:51 |
prestotron55 |
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| 17:51 |
MinetestBot |
prestotron55! |
| 17:51 |
Calinou |
I don't get it at all Jordach |
| 17:52 |
Jordach |
hahahahahahahaha |
| 17:52 |
OldCoder |
MinetestBot, You are doing a fine job |
| 17:52 |
* OldCoder |
will work on updating mods today |
| 17:52 |
MinetestBot |
Thank you OldCoder. |
| 17:54 |
MinetestBot |
Hello john_minetest. |
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MinetestBot |
Somebody thinks you should read the manual. The wiki for dev related questions is at http://dev.minetest.net , the regular wiki is at http://wiki.minetest.net. |
| 17:55 |
prestotron55 |
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| 17:55 |
MinetestBot |
sup prestotron55 |
| 17:55 |
prestotron55 |
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| 17:55 |
Jordach |
s/sup/Sup |
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Jordach |
capital letters. |
| 17:55 |
Jordach |
lol john_minetest_ |
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prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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OldCoder |
cephalopoda? |
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OldCoder |
As in squids and octupii ? |
| 17:57 |
OldCoder |
Very well |
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OldCoder |
john_minetest, Is the Internet monitored and constrained by Music Company etc. police? |
| 18:09 |
OldCoder |
They slap all types of software and rules onto some Universities |
| 18:10 |
OldCoder |
Mostly in the U.S. but also in Europe IIRC |
| 18:11 |
OldCoder |
Yes I have read that Germany is different |
| 18:11 |
OldCoder |
Enjoy Fast Net You Bet |
| 18:11 |
OldCoder |
In a Flat Off to You OldCoder takes His Hat |
| 18:12 |
Evergreen |
Sometimes when I see people struggling with unzipping a folder and moving it to a different place, I can barely stop myself from screaming "What is so difficult about unzipping and moving the darned folder?!" |
| 18:13 |
OldCoder |
Evergreen, each person has their own Universe |
| 18:13 |
OldCoder |
In some Universes CLI and even ZIP are giant monsters |
| 18:14 |
Evergreen |
Yes, that is true. |
| 18:14 |
OldCoder |
We know the truth... CLI ZIP and even Daemons are fuzzy friends :P |
| 18:16 |
kaeza |
bad things happen when you make a half-assed integration |
| 18:17 |
kaeza |
if you wanna integrate ZIP files as if they were actually part of the filesystem, do it the right way, or don't do it at all |
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| 18:17 |
zat |
The issue of privileges non persisting between logins must be caused by server extended!!! |
| 18:18 |
Evergreen |
Great, the newest user on the forums is "AntVenom". I have no idea what these imposters get out of doing that |
| 18:19 |
OldCoder |
john_minetest, It has its place. Just remember to use the y switch when appropriate |
| 18:19 |
OldCoder |
To preserve symlinks when zipping |
| 18:19 |
OldCoder |
unzip bacon.zip |
| 18:19 |
OldCoder |
^ Magic spell |
| 18:19 |
OldCoder |
:P |
| 18:20 |
Evergreen |
john_minetest: All you have to do is unzip zipfile.zip |
| 18:20 |
OldCoder |
Ninja |
| 18:20 |
kaeza |
:D |
| 18:20 |
Evergreen |
Whoops, Ninja'd by OldCoder |
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| 18:20 |
Evergreen |
And if you can't remember that use a gui like nautilis, or thunar or something |
| 18:24 |
OldCoder |
A bit dated but still works |
| 18:26 |
zat |
john_minetest: there is a plugin for thunar for that. |
| 18:28 |
univeralbuilder |
FOR THE pipeworks mod, if you place a vertical pipe over water, will the water go up? |
| 18:28 |
OldCoder |
john_minetest, there are many CLI archiver tools |
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| 18:34 |
BlockMen |
wtf?! http://news.softpedia.com/news/Secret-3G-Radio-in-Every-Intel-vPro-CPU-Could-Steal-Your-Ideas-at-Any-Time-385194.shtml |
| 18:35 |
VanessaE |
O.O |
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| 18:35 |
VanessaE |
good thing I don't use Intel then |
| 18:35 |
PilzAdam |
LOL, has someon read abm.lua of the c4 mod in the "terror" pack? |
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| 18:36 |
Exio4 |
amd ftw |
| 18:36 |
Exio4 |
intel is too expensive and isn't worth the extra money |
| 18:36 |
* Exio4 |
looks at the price of his cpu |
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| 18:37 |
Dan_D |
Hi |
| 18:41 |
PilzAdam |
lol, has someone looked at the damage of the Medeival tools mod? |
| 18:41 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: awake? |
| 18:41 |
PilzAdam |
the mace has a damage of 500 |
| 18:42 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: yes |
| 18:42 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: could you delete the poll from, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=56448 ? |
| 18:42 |
PilzAdam |
Im not a Lua compiler, but as far as I see there are some syntax errors in it too |
| 18:43 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: done |
| 18:43 |
VanessaE |
thanks. |
| 18:43 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, I just voted |
| 18:44 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: too late, the idea has already been abandoned. |
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| 18:44 |
Niften |
hello |
| 18:44 |
PilzAdam |
I voted for "no", btw |
| 18:44 |
VanessaE |
heh ok |
| 18:44 |
Niften |
pilzadam |
| 18:44 |
PilzAdam |
prestotron55, *ping* |
| 18:44 |
Niften |
0bg and me are starting new biome mechanics |
| 18:45 |
Niften |
well, a new and better biome implementation |
| 18:45 |
Niften |
is 0bg here? |
| 18:45 |
jin_xi |
gb |
| 18:46 |
Niften |
peacock |
| 18:46 |
Evergreen |
Can someone do something about this please? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7331 |
| 18:47 |
Niften |
ewww |
| 18:47 |
Niften |
disgusting |
| 18:47 |
Niften |
ive heard of a tp converter before evergreen |
| 18:47 |
Niften |
sfan5 made one |
| 18:47 |
Niften |
just ask him bout that |
| 18:48 |
Evergreen |
You know you can do it by hand righT? |
| 18:48 |
Evergreen |
Plus, in the wrong section of the fourms |
| 18:48 |
sfan5 |
Niften: I did make one? |
| 18:48 |
Niften |
yes |
| 18:48 |
Evergreen |
and, the tp converters don't really work that well |
| 18:48 |
Niften |
i know |
| 18:48 |
Niften |
there isnt a good one out there |
| 18:48 |
Evergreen |
It's best to do it by hand |
| 18:48 |
Niften |
i know. |
| 18:49 |
Niften |
ever since the 1.5 update in minecraft its in individual png files; very easy to convert.. |
| 18:49 |
NakedFury |
super easy |
| 18:49 |
Niften |
i know |
| 18:49 |
Niften |
except for the lazy ones who want programs to do it for them |
| 18:49 |
* prestotron55 |
has gotten accpeted to a new job |
| 18:50 |
Niften |
prestotron55, all you do here is be annoying in the irc -.- |
| 18:50 |
PilzAdam |
3.. 2.. 1.. fight! |
| 18:50 |
Niften |
ring ring |
| 18:50 |
* PilzAdam |
grabs popcorn |
| 18:50 |
prestotron55 |
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| 18:50 |
Evergreen |
There are some things you have to do by hand though, like the greyscale images for grass, leaves, etc |
| 18:50 |
Niften |
true evergreen. |
| 18:50 |
prestotron55 |
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| 18:50 |
NakedFury |
ugh yes the grey scale |
| 18:50 |
Niften |
but if you have a good program, you can just colorize correct? |
| 18:51 |
NakedFury |
yeah that is one thing I still cant do |
| 18:51 |
Niften |
i wish ms paint had more features, but i figured out a way to make pixel art with it really easily :D |
| 18:51 |
Niften |
evergreen, nakedfury |
| 18:51 |
prestotron55 |
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| 18:51 |
Niften |
if you go back into previous updates |
| 18:51 |
Niften |
there is no grayscale |
| 18:51 |
Niften |
if you go back far enough |
| 18:52 |
Evergreen |
Yes, but I like the colors in the new version better |
| 18:52 |
NakedFury |
I do have the far back enough files for the packs I like |
| 18:52 |
Niften |
true |
| 18:52 |
Niften |
you can just select a previous version |
| 18:52 |
NakedFury |
but like evergreen said the new ones look better |
| 18:52 |
Niften |
mmhmm |
| 18:52 |
Niften |
so i just tint it with red then colorize to the color i want them to be. |
| 18:52 |
prestotron55 |
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| 18:53 |
Niften |
prestotron, we aren't talking about ms paint. |
| 18:53 |
Niften |
-.- |
| 18:53 |
prestotron55 |
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| 18:53 |
Niften |
oh god you are so annoying |
| 18:53 |
Niften |
:/ |
| 18:54 |
kaeza |
ShadowNinja, rollback seems to work for signs :) |
| 18:54 |
prestotron55 |
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| 18:54 |
Niften |
uh, what? |
| 18:54 |
prestotron55 |
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| 18:55 |
Niften |
preston |
| 18:55 |
Niften |
please stop. |
| 18:55 |
prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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MinetestBot |
prestotron55! |
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* Jordach |
summons proller |
| 18:55 |
prestotron55 |
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| 18:55 |
Jordach |
i could mute both of you |
| 18:55 |
Niften |
jordach |
| 18:55 |
Niften |
plz mute him |
| 18:55 |
Niften |
D: |
| 18:55 |
Jordach |
NO |
| 18:55 |
prestotron55 |
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| 18:55 |
Jordach |
GTFO both noobs |
| 18:56 |
Niften |
oh, 0bg and i are making a new biome implementation :D |
| 18:56 |
proller |
noob17 here again.. |
| 18:56 |
prestotron55 |
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| 18:56 |
Niften |
noob19 :D |
| 18:56 |
Niften |
alright |
| 18:56 |
kaeza |
noobsaibot |
| 18:56 |
prestotron55 |
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| 18:56 |
Niften |
back to what i was saying |
| 18:57 |
prestotron55 |
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| 18:57 |
Niften |
i like sapier's animal framework (mobf) but there should be another (better) implementation of 3d mobs.. |
| 18:57 |
proller |
but only noob17 have unlimited stupidity |
| 18:57 |
prestotron55 |
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| 18:58 |
Niften |
wasnt talking about appearances |
| 18:58 |
prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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| 18:58 |
Niften |
ugh |
| 18:59 |
prestotron55 |
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| 18:59 |
Niften |
nah |
| 18:59 |
Niften |
im making mt games now |
| 18:59 |
Niften |
releasing crevis as a game |
| 18:59 |
Niften |
:D |
| 18:59 |
prestotron55 |
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Niften |
but im taking a break from it to work on me and 0bg's game |
| 19:00 |
Niften |
0bg and i are rebuilding it from scratch |
| 19:00 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:00 |
* prestotron55 |
and Zeg9 are working together on ponies! |
| 19:00 |
prestotron55 |
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proller |
prestotron55, you draw pony in paint? |
| 19:01 |
prestotron55 |
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Jordach |
prestotron55, you can't blender like me |
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prestotron55 |
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| 19:02 |
Jordach |
and you're texturing is worse then 0.2-dev |
| 19:02 |
Jordach |
-e |
| 19:02 |
Jordach |
-' |
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prestotron55 |
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proller |
prestotron55, but blender have noob protection, how you start it? |
| 19:03 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:03 |
Evergreen |
prestotron55: I have worked with Zeg9 on multiple occasions. He is awesome |
| 19:03 |
Evergreen |
As well as |
| 19:03 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:03 |
Evergreen |
*As well as Mossmanikin |
| 19:03 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:03 |
Evergreen |
They are both good at modding and texturing |
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prestotron55 |
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univeralbuilder |
FOR THE pipeworks mod, if you place a vertical pipe over water, will the water go up? |
| 19:05 |
Jordach |
univeralbuilder, nope |
| 19:05 |
Dan_D |
Is there a gui-based Github client for Linux? |
| 19:05 |
univeralbuilder |
how do you make it go up? |
| 19:05 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:05 |
Dan_D |
What is it |
| 19:05 |
prestotron55 |
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Jordach |
hey Calinou |
| 19:06 |
Dan_D |
So it is not gui based |
| 19:06 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 19:06 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:06 |
Dan_D |
Would it work with Wine? |
| 19:06 |
* prestotron55 |
summons Niften |
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prestotron55 |
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| 19:07 |
Dan_D |
I already have the Windows one on Windows |
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prestotron55 |
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PilzAdam |
Dan_D, of course there are GUI frontends for git on Linux |
| 19:07 |
Dan_D |
Mono? What is that |
| 19:07 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:07 |
Dan_D |
Nah, I won't bother |
| 19:08 |
prestotron55 |
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Calinou |
what do you need a GUI for? |
| 19:08 |
Dan_D |
I can never remember terminal commands |
| 19:08 |
Calinou |
command line isn't that hard to use |
| 19:08 |
Calinou |
command line git* |
| 19:08 |
Dan_D |
I have to write them down, then forget where I wrote them down |
| 19:08 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:08 |
Dan_D |
Ok |
| 19:08 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:09 |
Dan_D |
Well, I am installing Cola Git GUI |
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| 19:11 |
Calinou |
prestotron55: don't use sudo unless it is needed |
| 19:11 |
Calinou |
it is a bad idea to do so |
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prestotron55 |
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| 19:15 |
Calinou |
no, not at all |
| 19:16 |
Calinou |
at worst you let the program designers touch any file |
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prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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sfan5 |
? |
| 19:16 |
sfan5 |
.. |
| 19:16 |
sfan5 |
sudo to install things |
| 19:16 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:17 |
sfan5 |
1) You apparently don't have a clue what sudo is/does |
| 19:17 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:17 |
jin_xi |
it makes stuff go faster man |
| 19:17 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:17 |
sfan5 |
2) I didn't tell you to use sudo for compiling and downloading |
| 19:17 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:17 |
sfan5 |
really? what is it and what does it do then? |
| 19:18 |
sfan5 |
I didn't tell you to use sudo |
| 19:18 |
AWTom |
Sudo takes advantage of cloud Linux servers to speed operations up. We can thank Red Hat for that. |
| 19:18 |
VanessaE |
o.O |
| 19:18 |
prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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| 19:19 |
AWTom |
apt-get install requires sudo |
| 19:19 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:19 |
sfan5 |
prestotron55: that command installs things, no compiling or downloading |
| 19:19 |
sfan5 |
now.. |
| 19:19 |
sfan5 |
what does sudo do? |
| 19:19 |
AWTom |
Suck Up Dirt, Ovaries |
| 19:20 |
Evergreen |
Now class, can you tell me what sudo does? |
| 19:20 |
Evergreen |
(you don't know how to use linux if you can't answer this correctly) |
| 19:20 |
VanessaE |
silyl user deserves ownage? |
| 19:20 |
* prestotron55 |
raises hand |
| 19:20 |
VanessaE |
silyl* |
| 19:20 |
Evergreen |
Yes, prestotron55 |
| 19:20 |
VanessaE |
silly** |
| 19:21 |
Evergreen |
Now please tell me prestotron55, what does sudo do? |
| 19:21 |
AWTom |
he's taking his time with this Google search... |
| 19:21 |
prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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| 19:22 |
sfan5 |
>revoke the cached authentication action of user |
| 19:22 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:22 |
sfan5 |
copy-paste from google search detected |
| 19:22 |
sfan5 |
that is wrong |
| 19:22 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:22 |
sfan5 |
also wrong |
| 19:22 |
prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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| 19:23 |
sfan5 |
no, ofc not |
| 19:23 |
AWTom |
Super User DO |
| 19:23 |
sfan5 |
AWTom: you ruined it :-/ |
| 19:23 |
AWTom |
:o |
| 19:23 |
sfan5 |
prestotron55: find out yourself |
| 19:23 |
AWTom |
what's the difference between super user and root? |
| 19:23 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:23 |
VanessaE |
I repeat what I said before, Silly User Deserves Ownage. :) |
| 19:24 |
Evergreen |
^ So true |
| 19:24 |
jin_xi |
shut up derp oktxbai |
| 19:24 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:25 |
PilzAdam |
prestotron55, just stop, its obvious that you just copy things you dont understand |
| 19:25 |
AWTom |
SUDO means "perform this action with root permissions" |
| 19:25 |
Calinou |
superuser do |
| 19:25 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:25 |
Evergreen |
If you sudo -i you will become root |
| 19:25 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:26 |
AWTom |
prestotron55: what you said didn't make any sense |
| 19:26 |
AWTom |
"to have it a very old modification timestamp" wtf does that mean |
| 19:26 |
Evergreen |
wikipedia isn't always right you know |
| 19:26 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:26 |
AWTom |
darn |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
it often is, Evergreen |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
except when "Steam is made to piss off its users to buy games" |
| 19:27 |
* Calinou |
opened the Steam page on wikipedia once and saw that |
| 19:27 |
Evergreen |
plol |
| 19:28 |
Evergreen |
Yes, it is correct most of the time, but you wouldn't want to use it for a serious research paper |
| 19:29 |
AWTom |
the Windows page is semi-protected indefinitely, but the Linux page only has have new/unregistered user's edits reviewed. |
| 19:30 |
AWTom |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows#Emulation_software Wine is listed :( |
| 19:33 |
univeralbuilder |
what does an autocrafter do? |
| 19:33 |
VanessaE |
just what it sounds like |
| 19:34 |
VanessaE |
you feed items to it via pipeworks tubes, give it a recipe, and it follows the recipe repeatedly |
| 19:34 |
VanessaE |
as long as it has materials to craft with, that is |
| 19:35 |
VanessaE |
so if for example, you place 6 wood into the autocrafter's recipe grid to make a door, and then start feeding it more wood via tubes, it'll start making doors until it runs out of wood. |
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| 19:35 |
VanessaE |
hey dan |
| 19:36 |
Dan_D |
VanessaE, if I want to use git command line in Linux, assuming Ihave never used it before, how do I login, and push a repo? |
| 19:36 |
Jordach |
login is when you push to the repo |
| 19:36 |
VanessaE |
you just need to open a terminal. to push to a repo, cd repofolder; git add . ; git commit ; git push |
| 19:36 |
Jordach |
it should ask for github username and password |
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| 19:37 |
VanessaE |
if you set it up right, it'll just go right in without a password (e.g. using ssh keys) |
| 19:37 |
Niften |
back |
| 19:37 |
Jordach |
i prefer a passworded one |
| 19:37 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: ssh keys are more secure |
| 19:37 |
Jordach |
that way no one can contribute fucked code |
| 19:37 |
Dan_D |
Ok |
| 19:38 |
Miner_48er |
what unit is max_lag in /status in? |
| 19:38 |
VanessaE |
max_lag? |
| 19:38 |
VanessaE |
I never noticed that before. |
| 19:38 |
VanessaE |
seconds, I guess |
| 19:39 |
Dan_D |
Ok, I typed my username and password,howdo I say what I want the commit message to be? |
| 19:39 |
VanessaE |
when you did `git commit` |
| 19:39 |
Dan_D |
Oh |
| 19:39 |
VanessaE |
it should have opened an editor |
| 19:39 |
Dan_D |
Oh well |
| 19:39 |
Dan_D |
Nope |
| 19:39 |
VanessaE |
that's where the commit msg goes |
| 19:39 |
VanessaE |
did you `git add .` first? |
| 19:40 |
VanessaE |
(with the period) |
| 19:40 |
Dan_D |
I did them all in one line, with the period |
| 19:40 |
Dan_D |
I will try again |
| 19:40 |
Dan_D |
It says 'nothing to commit |
| 19:41 |
VanessaE |
then there's nothing to commit :P |
| 19:41 |
VanessaE |
what's the repo? |
| 19:41 |
Dan_D |
So how do I setb a commit message then? |
| 19:41 |
Dan_D |
Castle repo |
| 19:41 |
VanessaE |
last commit I see there is from today |
| 19:41 |
VanessaE |
about 13 mins ago |
| 19:41 |
Dan_D |
Ok, it was about 3 seconds ago |
| 19:41 |
VanessaE |
"Fixed tapestry being slightly wrong nodebox, made jail door use jail bar-like texture" |
| 19:42 |
Dan_D |
What??? How the hell did that commit? |
| 19:42 |
* VanessaE |
shrugs |
| 19:42 |
Dan_D |
That was using cola gui, but I never had to log in... |
| 19:42 |
univeralbuilder |
how do you make an autocrafter? |
| 19:42 |
VanessaE |
it was probably using ssh keys |
| 19:42 |
VanessaE |
univeralbuilder: I already told you. |
| 19:43 |
VanessaE |
univeralbuilder: right click. Put some materials in the autocrafter's crafting grid to form a recipe. Start piping more materials to it via tubes. |
| 19:43 |
Dan_D |
But hoiw did it work without password? |
| 19:43 |
VanessaE |
it will craft that recipe repeatedly until it runs out |
| 19:43 |
VanessaE |
Dan_D: ssh keys probably. |
| 19:43 |
Miner_48er |
https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/blob/master/autocrafter.lua |
| 19:43 |
Dan_D |
What are they? |
| 19:44 |
Dan_D |
ssh key I mean |
| 19:44 |
univeralbuilder |
i didnt recall that |
| 19:44 |
univeralbuilder |
sorry vaneessa |
| 19:44 |
VanessaE |
Dan_D: it's an encryption key that you would have created during set-up of the repository |
| 19:44 |
VanessaE |
you probably did it without realizing :) |
| 19:44 |
Dan_D |
I used theGUI on Windows to set it up |
| 19:45 |
VanessaE |
interesting. |
| 19:46 |
VanessaE |
well anyway the commit is there. Now just do the `cd;git add....;git push` line each time you want to push a new change |
| 19:46 |
Dan_D |
Ok |
| 19:46 |
Dan_D |
I just did another commit- is it showing yet? |
| 19:46 |
* VanessaE |
argues with minetestmapper C++ to get a new map overview to render. |
| 19:46 |
VanessaE |
not yet, no |
| 19:46 |
VanessaE |
did you push? |
| 19:47 |
Dan_D |
IDK |
| 19:48 |
Dan_D |
THAT IS WEIRD! |
| 19:48 |
VanessaE |
there it is |
| 19:49 |
Dan_D |
I have to use Cola GUI to 'commit' and set the message, then command line to make it actually push |
| 19:49 |
Dan_D |
Weird to hell |
| 19:49 |
VanessaE |
you can also `git commit -m "some text here"` |
| 19:49 |
VanessaE |
that's how you set the message from the command-line, if you don't want to use the editor. |
| 19:49 |
Dan_D |
Can you update it on your server? The wrong nodebox has been bugging me for ages |
| 19:49 |
VanessaE |
sure |
| 19:50 |
Dan_D |
It keeps irritating me every time i see it... |
| 19:51 |
Calinou |
-m is way better than not using -m :P |
| 19:51 |
VanessaE |
Dan_D: done. |
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| 19:52 |
Dan_D |
Thanks, is the server re-started now? |
| 19:52 |
Dan_D |
Or will I have to wait for the change? |
| 19:52 |
VanessaE |
it's restarted. |
| 19:52 |
Dan_D |
Also VanessaE, can you move the forum page (in modding general) to mod releases? |
| 19:53 |
Dan_D |
Along with my TBM reloaded mod? |
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| 19:53 |
Dan_D |
Also, they should really be called banners, not tapestries. |
| 19:53 |
Dan_D |
But who cares |
| 19:54 |
VanessaE |
moved. |
| 19:54 |
Dan_D |
Thanks |
| 19:54 |
Dan_D |
Do you have Wine? |
| 19:54 |
Dan_D |
If so, can you tell me how my Minetest Mapper c++ frontend performs on Linux? |
| 19:54 |
Jordach |
.bat doesnt work on Linux |
| 19:55 |
Dan_D |
No, it is .exe |
| 19:55 |
Dan_D |
And has been for a while |
| 19:55 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, you need to do "git init" if it's a new repo |
| 19:56 |
Dan_D |
It is just updating a current repo, that's all |
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| 19:56 |
Peacock |
what are the tricks again for dealing with wonky inventory images? |
| 19:57 |
Niften |
peacock are we doing the biome thing? |
| 19:57 |
Peacock |
not me |
| 19:57 |
Niften |
D; |
| 19:57 |
Peacock |
you were talking to... ogb about that yesterday? |
| 19:58 |
Niften |
yeah |
| 19:58 |
Peacock |
i thought you were doing it w/ him |
| 19:58 |
Niften |
were doing a game together |
| 19:58 |
Jordach |
Niften, have you tried reading |
| 19:58 |
Peacock |
well i aint doing any biome thing when having biome support in the API would make more sense |
| 19:58 |
Niften |
true peacock |
| 19:58 |
Jordach |
(hint: they are two round things in your skull) |
| 19:59 |
Niften |
xD |
| 19:59 |
Niften |
jordach, i dont think there's a biome implementation into minetest yet? |
| 19:59 |
Jordach |
Mapgen V7 |
| 19:59 |
Jordach |
^ try that |
| 19:59 |
Niften |
i know. |
| 19:59 |
Peacock |
isn't that the all-rock mapgen? |
| 19:59 |
Niften |
v7 is all stone D: |
| 19:59 |
Niften |
but it looks sexy |
| 19:59 |
Niften |
brb |
| 19:59 |
Peacock |
monobiome support :P |
| 19:59 |
kaeza |
huh |
| 20:00 |
kaeza |
Peacock, you need to define biomes |
| 20:00 |
Peacock |
ok so it is done, then what the hell were niften and ogb talking about then? lol |
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| 20:01 |
Peacock |
ill take the silence to mean they didn't know about mgv7 lol |
| 20:03 |
kaeza |
yep |
| 20:03 |
Peacock |
lol but seriously, how do i stop half the inventory images on the p4 from wonking out? most people run way more mods than me |
| 20:04 |
kaeza |
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_2656622662.jpg |
| 20:04 |
kaeza |
^ mgv7 |
| 20:05 |
Peacock |
looks kinda like the v5 :-) |
| 20:05 |
kaeza |
yep :P |
| 20:05 |
Peacock |
i wonder, are inv images loaded into graphics memory? |
| 20:06 |
kaeza |
someone found a way by defining custom inventory_image fields for items |
| 20:07 |
kaeza |
or so I heard |
| 20:09 |
Peacock |
already did that for all the stuff that isn't in creative |
| 20:09 |
Niften |
back |
| 20:10 |
Niften |
kaeza |
| 20:10 |
Niften |
is there a functional dev build for mgv7? |
| 20:10 |
kaeza |
... |
| 20:10 |
Peacock |
maybe i could tweak my custom UI to not show all the shapes of the same node at once |
| 20:10 |
VanessaE |
all dev builds have that |
| 20:10 |
VanessaE |
you just have to use it |
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| 20:11 |
kaeza |
Niften, PilzTest uses mgv7; try it |
| 20:11 |
Niften |
alright thanks |
| 20:11 |
nore |
bbl |
| 20:12 |
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nore left #minetest |
| 20:12 |
Niften |
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_2656622662.jpg |
| 20:12 |
Niften |
^ impressive |
| 20:12 |
Niften |
brn |
| 20:12 |
Niften |
brb |
| 20:12 |
Peacock |
cuz my mblocks has something like 160 textures, 2/3's of those are full house (stairs, corner stairs, slopes, columns) so thats alot of shit lol |
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| 20:13 |
Peacock |
maybe an expandable row for those extra shapes all with the same inventory image would alleviate the p4 lol |
| 20:14 |
Peacock |
but then they'd all look the same in the hotbar too :/ |
| 20:14 |
Calinou |
night |
| 20:15 |
OldCoder |
Night |
| 20:15 |
VanessaE |
night |
| 20:23 |
Peacock |
third or fourth round of elimination lol http://s14.postimg.org/rf9lnpmgh/screenshot_1801296159.png |
| 20:24 |
Niften |
back |
| 20:24 |
prestotron55 |
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| 20:27 |
Niften |
ty |
| 20:27 |
prestotron55 |
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| 20:27 |
Niften |
ah, investigating mgv7 |
| 20:28 |
prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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Niften |
preston |
| 20:29 |
Evergreen |
prestotron55: There are plenty of games that can take advantage of mgv7 |
| 20:29 |
Niften |
mgv7 stone is fixed |
| 20:29 |
Niften |
and lua biomes can be defined with mgv7 i believe |
| 20:29 |
prestotron55 |
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| 20:29 |
Evergreen |
And also, no new biomes. I can assure you that it will not be merged |
| 20:30 |
Evergreen |
prestotron55: -_- |
| 20:30 |
sfan5 |
Niften: there is nothing to be fixed in mgv7, it generates stone if not biomes are defined |
| 20:30 |
prestotron55 |
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| 20:30 |
Niften |
its released, just not stable or in an official update yet |
| 20:30 |
Niften |
i know sfan5 |
| 20:30 |
sfan5 |
-t |
| 20:30 |
Niften |
i never said something needed to be fixed |
| 20:30 |
prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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| 20:30 |
Niften |
i have mgv7. |
| 20:30 |
Evergreen |
Requests for who? |
| 20:30 |
sfan5 |
Niften: but you said it was fixed |
| 20:30 |
Niften |
:p |
| 20:30 |
Niften |
oh. |
| 20:30 |
Niften |
my bad sfan5. |
| 20:30 |
Evergreen |
Just because it is requested doesn't mean it will be merged |
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prestotron55 |
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Niften |
it was the first word that came to my mind xD |
| 20:31 |
prestotron55 |
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| 20:31 |
Evergreen |
To put it simply, no. |
| 20:31 |
prestotron55 |
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Peacock |
theres mgv7 and indev i think |
| 20:31 |
Evergreen |
Yep |
| 20:32 |
prestotron55 |
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| 20:32 |
Peacock |
have any mods used the math mapgens yet? |
| 20:32 |
Peacock |
im curious to see what ppl come up with |
| 20:32 |
prestotron55 |
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| 20:32 |
Evergreen |
What made you think I was a core dev? |
| 20:32 |
Peacock |
evergreen he thinks he's a core dev :P |
| 20:32 |
Peacock |
so it stands to reason anyone smarter would be too :P |
| 20:33 |
Evergreen |
Oh |
| 20:33 |
prestotron55 |
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Peacock |
(mostly kidding) |
| 20:33 |
Evergreen |
I didn't say no to it, but I said that a core dev will |
| 20:33 |
Evergreen |
I know this, I mean just look at the amount of pull requests that aren't merged |
| 20:33 |
Peacock |
Unlimited power! http://www.dion.nu/weblog/img/sith3.jpg |
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prestotron55 |
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Peacock |
theres a chance ittl get merged, i dont think theyd make you core for that tho lol |
| 20:34 |
prestotron55 |
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PilzAdam |
lol |
| 20:35 |
Peacock |
it reduce my expectations further :P |
| 20:35 |
PilzAdam |
prestotron55, just stop talking, its better for you |
| 20:35 |
Peacock |
hey it livens the place up :P |
| 20:35 |
prestotron55 |
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| 20:35 |
Niften |
:p |
| 20:35 |
Evergreen |
Actually, I have a question. How does one become qualified to be a core dev/moderator |
| 20:35 |
Peacock |
this place is a like a funeral parlour on the weekend :P |
| 20:35 |
Niften |
evergreen |
| 20:35 |
Evergreen |
lol |
| 20:35 |
prestotron55 |
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| 20:35 |
Niften |
they're qualified if they contribute enough i think, to keep it running. |
| 20:36 |
Evergreen |
I kind of thought so |
| 20:36 |
Niften |
mmhmm |
| 20:36 |
Niften |
otherwise the community are the developers |
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prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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MinetestBot |
Hi prestotron55. |
| 20:38 |
LazyJ |
Does anyone here know what affect the congestion_control settings have? When to increase, when to decrease? |
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prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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MinetestBot |
prestotron55! |
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Niften |
MinetestBot! |
| 20:39 |
MinetestBot |
Niften! |
| 20:39 |
Niften |
i wuv you MinetestBot! |
| 20:39 |
prestotron55 |
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Niften |
MinetestBot! |
| 20:39 |
MinetestBot |
Niften! |
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prestotron55 |
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| 20:39 |
MinetestBot |
Hey prestotron55! |
| 20:40 |
Niften |
hey minetestbot |
| 20:40 |
MinetestBot |
sup Niften! |
| 20:40 |
prestotron55 |
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| 20:40 |
PilzAdam |
dont abuse the bot |
| 20:40 |
Niften |
alright |
| 20:40 |
Niften |
hes fun to play with |
| 20:40 |
prestotron55 |
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* Peacock |
molests the bot |
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* prestotron55 |
slaps Peacock in the face |
| 20:40 |
MinetestBot |
Niften: fuck, nobody plays with me! |
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prestotron55 |
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Niften was kicked by MinetestBot: Niften |
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Peacock |
prostatetron: how do you know im not a masochist? |
| 20:41 |
prestotron55 |
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| 20:41 |
Peacock |
i run linux after all XD :P |
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* prestotron55 |
is now biffles with Peacock |
| 20:42 |
Peacock |
query, biffles? |
| 20:42 |
Peacock |
sounds like a brand of dog treats |
| 20:42 |
prestotron55 |
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| 20:42 |
Peacock |
oh deer lord lol |
| 20:42 |
* prestotron55 |
is now biffles with Peacock for his use of linux |
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prestotron55 |
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| 20:42 |
Peacock |
in soviet Russia, linux uses you |
| 20:43 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 20:43 |
* prestotron55 |
turns PilzAdams PC back on |
| 20:43 |
Peacock |
i think we made him segfault :/ |
| 20:43 |
* prestotron55 |
runs away |
| 20:45 |
Peacock |
jesus lol there's a full two pages of inventory with blank tiles on the p4 :/ |
| 20:46 |
Peacock |
eventually i'll have to put the old bitch out of her misery, but it plays hd movies so well :S |
| 20:50 |
kaeza |
the good thing with old hardware is that you are not tempted to install useless stuff :P |
| 20:51 |
Jordach |
Peacock, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdDxjeccjmI |
| 20:51 |
kaeza |
I used to live just fine with 4GB, now 500GB is not enough ._. |
| 20:51 |
Peacock |
is cant, is playing http://hypem.com/track/1zcr3/Janet+Jackson+-+Rock+With+You+%28Milo+Mills+Edition%29 |
| 20:51 |
Peacock |
kaeza tell me about it, when i bought a 1tb i though i'd be good for ten years lol |
| 20:52 |
Peacock |
2 years later, im like "shit, i need 3 more tb" |
| 20:53 |
Peacock |
had a Game of Thrones marathon last week, filled up my last hard drive with what free space i had left lol |
| 20:54 |
Peacock |
though i dont hold onto shows that get cancelled without a finale |
| 21:01 |
Jordach |
prestotron55, no spam: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=112590#p112590 |
| 21:01 |
Jordach |
i'll place it in the trash area until we find a place for it |
| 21:03 |
Jordach |
^ VanessaE, thexyz |
| 21:03 |
Jordach |
(highlight to let you two decide) |
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Evergreen |
Sorry, about that, working on a presentation for how to build a fire |
| 21:15 |
BlockMen |
bye |
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| 21:18 |
Miner_48er |
any new updates to farming can't get anything to grow in a cave? |
| 21:20 |
Peacock |
thought about lighting> |
| 21:20 |
Peacock |
*? |
| 21:21 |
Miner_48er |
yes |
| 21:21 |
Miner_48er |
torches |
| 21:21 |
Peacock |
then im stumped lol |
| 21:26 |
LazyJ |
My turn! |
| 21:26 |
LazyJ |
What does the "-n" switch do in the "set" command? |
| 21:28 |
VanessaE |
makes a new key. |
| 21:29 |
VanessaE |
if the setting didn't exist in minetest.conf, it creates it. |
| 21:29 |
LazyJ |
So if the "key" already exists in minetest.conf, does it change the existing key or create another without commenting out the prior? |
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VanessaE |
it just changes it but it doesn't overwrite whatever was in the .conf |
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Dark_Soul |
VanessaE i will need you help in bit it you got time :) |
| 21:30 |
LazyJ |
Ah, and while I have your ear, VanessaE, how big does your rollback file get? |
| 21:31 |
VanessaE |
LazyJ: often it exceeds 2-3 GB, I have to delete it periodically. |
| 21:31 |
LazyJ |
We are contemplating enabling it but have concerns of it ballooning to match the world file. |
| 21:31 |
VanessaE |
Dark_Soul: depends on what the help is |
| 21:31 |
VanessaE |
LazyJ: expect it to exceed the world file if you have enough players. |
| 21:31 |
Dark_Soul |
with the config for a server to be up with out me on on ubuto (sorry bad spelling) i found out wat i was doing wrong last time |
| 21:32 |
LazyJ |
Ok, good to know. Thanks VanessaE. ;) |
| 21:33 |
* VanessaE |
is fading kinda fast...... |
| 21:33 |
VanessaE |
tiiiiiired |
| 21:33 |
Dark_Soul |
lol VanessaE if you want i can wait lo; |
| 21:33 |
Dark_Soul |
lol |
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Niften |
hello |
| 21:44 |
VanessaE |
Opinions requested: https://github.com/VanessaE/hdx-512/commit/a820ce614039e6618e9eeaae1bf0534df978d2c1 |
| 21:54 |
kaeza |
looks nice |
| 21:55 |
kaeza |
the one for the bottom side causes me vertigo :S |
| 21:55 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 21:59 |
univeralbuilder |
what does the valve in the pipeworks mod do |
| 21:59 |
VanessaE |
turns the water on/off :) |
| 21:59 |
VanessaE |
it can be connected to mesecons also. |
| 21:59 |
Exio4 |
anyone here with a sega genesis controller? |
| 22:00 |
Exio4 |
did anyone even try to plug it to the pc? |
| 22:00 |
univeralbuilder |
whats the point of connecting it to a mesecon? |
| 22:00 |
VanessaE |
univeralbuilder: to let a mesecons circuit turn the water on/off remotely |
| 22:00 |
univeralbuilder |
does that mean that the mesecons can connect to another valve and turn both on and off at the same itme? |
| 22:01 |
VanessaE |
yep |
| 22:01 |
VanessaE |
bbl, I'm falling asleep at the keys |
| 22:01 |
univeralbuilder |
does the valve have to connect to the pump? |
| 22:01 |
VanessaE |
it just has to be in a pipeline somewhere. |
| 22:01 |
VanessaE |
the pump can also connect to mesecons, to turn it on/off remotely |
| 22:02 |
VanessaE |
ok, I'm out. |
| 22:02 |
kaeza |
night |
| 22:03 |
Peacock |
weird sleep hours :P |
| 22:04 |
Peacock |
its 6pm over there too right? |
| 22:06 |
Miner_48er |
yes |
| 22:19 |
LazyJ |
Thowing this out here again, anyone here know what affect the congestion control parameters have? Increase/decrease one or the other? |
| 22:23 |
LazyJ |
Ok, how about the emergequeue settings? |
| 22:25 |
Miner_48er |
VanessaE,BrandonReese either of you tried this ^ ? |
| 22:26 |
LazyJ |
I think VanessaE said she was out for the night. She's a night-owl like me. |
| 22:27 |
LazyJ |
I'm currently wide-eyed on too much coffee to sleep. |
| 22:27 |
Miner_48er |
it's 6pm for her |
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Niften |
hi! |
| 22:28 |
Niften |
still trying to understand how mgv7 works.. |
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MinetestBot |
sup prestotron55. |
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| 22:54 |
dafull97 |
Hey guys |
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prestotron55 |
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| 22:54 |
us_0gb |
Hello! |
| 22:54 |
prestotron55 |
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dafull97 |
us_0gb! |
| 22:54 |
dafull97 |
haha |
| 22:54 |
prestotron55 |
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MinetestBot |
prestotron55! |
| 22:54 |
dafull97 |
Lol |
| 22:55 |
us_0gb |
It appears so. A little collaboration should help the project a lot. It will at least keep some of my crazier ideas out of the way.\ |
| 22:55 |
prestotron55 |
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| 22:55 |
* prestotron55 |
is private messaging MinetestBot! |
| 22:55 |
dafull97 |
so question to the active memebers of IRC, what is somthing that you would like to see in Minetest, like a Server.. better Chat? |
| 22:55 |
kaeza |
does anybody recall what's the name of the mod that adds the truckload of colored wool blocks? |
| 22:56 |
prestotron55 |
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| 22:56 |
dafull97 |
us_0gb, what i said ^^ |
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us_0gb |
He can rip off Minecraft if he wants. He's already adding livestock from Minecraft. |
| 22:57 |
prestotron55 |
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| 22:57 |
us_0gb |
Cows, pigs, et cetera. |
| 22:58 |
us_0gb |
dafull97, more support for free software. Minetest itself is free software. |
| 22:58 |
dafull97 |
us_0gb, such as? |
| 22:58 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:00 |
us_0gb |
Well, mostly all I plan to do is nodes and node-related things. And due to the duality of my plan, my code will both work for the shared game and my personal game. I will glue some other things together, but if this doesn't go well, I haven't lost much. |
| 23:00 |
Peacock |
should add politician livestock, provides copious amounts of manure |
| 23:01 |
us_0gb |
dafull97, I don't know. Trying to get people to quit using propitiatory software? I can't do it on my own without really annoying people. |
| 23:01 |
Niften |
0gb! |
| 23:01 |
us_0gb |
Hello! |
| 23:01 |
Niften |
:D |
| 23:01 |
Niften |
dude! |
| 23:01 |
Peacock |
you shouldn't try at all :P |
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| 23:01 |
Niften |
ive been looking into the biome thing |
| 23:01 |
Peacock |
ie, its not freedom if people can't chose for themselves |
| 23:01 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:01 |
dafull97 |
propitiatory? |
| 23:01 |
dafull97 |
english? |
| 23:02 |
Niften |
i decided not to do an lua one |
| 23:02 |
dafull97 |
=P |
| 23:02 |
Niften |
but we can use mgv7 0gb |
| 23:02 |
us_0gb |
I'm trying. I have to try to show people the evils of evil software licensing. |
| 23:02 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:02 |
us_0gb |
dafull97, nonfree code. Free as in freedom, not price. For example, Adobe Flash is NOT free. |
| 23:03 |
dafull97 |
so, like... open-source? |
| 23:03 |
us_0gb |
Mapgen 7 seems to be the only one with ice. I'm trying to cover both v7 and singlenode. |
| 23:03 |
Niften |
mmhmm |
| 23:03 |
Niften |
v7 has its problems though. |
| 23:03 |
us_0gb |
Open source, yes, but some open source code is not free (meaning you can SEE the source, but not MODIFY it). |
| 23:03 |
Niften |
for example, v7 doesnt support trees yet i dont think. |
| 23:04 |
Niften |
but an easy lua tree gen mod could cover that |
| 23:04 |
dafull97 |
us_0gb, start a cause? |
| 23:04 |
Niften |
@VanessaE's More Trees |
| 23:04 |
dafull97 |
us_0gb, hold your thoughts on a paper gtg... be back later |
| 23:04 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:04 |
us_0gb |
I plan to make some extra trees anyway, so we can use those. But in that case, I'll support v6 as well. |
| 23:05 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:05 |
us_0gb |
A cause of what? |
| 23:05 |
us_0gb |
Never mind. |
| 23:05 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:05 |
Niften |
0gb |
| 23:05 |
Peacock |
considering software dev is one of the US's strengths, i wouldn't wail against the prop. industry :P |
| 23:05 |
Niften |
i suck at making models for trees, are you good with those? |
| 23:05 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:06 |
Peacock |
and if all software were free, the gov't would have to pay people to code, and i'd rather pay taxes to house the homeless, feed the starving and care for the ill first :P |
| 23:06 |
Niften |
and, 0gb, with the livestock i'm not going to make it anywhere near minecraft's. |
| 23:06 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:07 |
Niften |
ugh |
| 23:07 |
us_0gb |
Peacock, one of many problems with nonfree code is that you don't know what it's doing. Some people build malicious features into it. |
| 23:07 |
Niften |
you wont give me it anyway lol |
| 23:07 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:07 |
Peacock |
well if that's your biggest social concern, i'd suggest you got your priorities wrong :P |
| 23:07 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:07 |
us_0gb |
Peacock, also, some people SELL free software. It's not free as in without charge. |
| 23:07 |
Niften |
prestotron: you never offered it to me |
| 23:08 |
Peacock |
very few people can actually make a living off free software, pointing to redhat wont change that |
| 23:08 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:08 |
us_0gb |
Niften, I've never done trees, but it's on my list. |
| 23:08 |
us_0gb |
Red Hat isn't fully free either. |
| 23:08 |
Peacock |
and if you base a software economy on support, what you end up with is shitty software that requires constant support |
| 23:08 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:08 |
Niften |
ill try learn, 0gb.. seems hard just by looking at VanessaE's tree models.. |
| 23:08 |
Niften |
prestotron: that was before IT |
| 23:08 |
Niften |
:p |
| 23:09 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:09 |
Niften |
"<prestotron55> So you are maintaining him so he doesn't rip off Minetests mods and stuff" wtf? |
| 23:09 |
us_0gb |
I'm going to try when I have time. For now I need to draw webs and test wallmounted slabs. |
| 23:09 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:09 |
Niften |
o.O |
| 23:09 |
Niften |
tell me when i ripped something off from minetest's community? |
| 23:10 |
Niften |
i would never do that |
| 23:10 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:10 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:10 |
Niften |
that was you. |
| 23:10 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:10 |
Niften |
removed gem |
| 23:10 |
prestotron55 |
[deleted] |
| 23:10 |
Niften |
-.- |
| 23:10 |
Niften |
download it now and look for it. |
| 23:11 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:11 |
prestotron55 |
[deleted] |
| 23:11 |
Niften |
"Crevis 2.2.3 Released by Preston on July 29, 2013 Crevis 2.2.3 is going to be a pretty cool update. You guys are in for a treat: In a few days this will be released! Beds Realistic sheep(with wool drops for bed) Snow biomes Snow hits the ground when it snows and melts later." |
| 23:12 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:12 |
Niften |
preston, you can stop lying. |
| 23:12 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:12 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:12 |
MinetestBot |
prestotron55! |
| 23:12 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:14 |
Niften |
Crevis 2.1.3 by Preston on July 9, 2013 Crevis 2.1.3 is out! Download the new launcher!+ Gems New Tools TNT Gunpowder NEW MAP GENERATOR! Cactus hurts you Eating Water and lava sounds |
| 23:14 |
Peacock |
nothing like eating water and lava |
| 23:14 |
Niften |
"Donations by Preston on July 9, 2013 Crevis has set up a donation page. You can donate $5 to Electroware and then send us an email saying you donated, we will preorder the newest Crevis update so you have it before everyone else. " |
| 23:14 |
prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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| 23:15 |
Niften |
im not lying. |
| 23:15 |
Niften |
i dont have a paypal smart one. |
| 23:15 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:15 |
Niften |
i have the irc conversation with pilzadam and jordach + more recorded. |
| 23:15 |
Niften |
you can find it. |
| 23:15 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:15 |
Peacock |
girls, calm down |
| 23:16 |
Niften |
peacock <3 |
| 23:16 |
Niften |
im going to find the conv |
| 23:16 |
* prestotron55 |
apoligizes to his biffle, Peacock |
| 23:16 |
us_0gb |
I fell to the bottom of the world because the land didn't generate ... |
| 23:16 |
Peacock |
if you really wanna fight, i can give you handbags with bottles of gin in them, the first to knock the other out wins |
| 23:17 |
Peacock |
(and gets to drink both) |
| 23:17 |
* prestotron55 |
drinks it! |
| 23:17 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:17 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:17 |
Niften |
peacock, is it possible to search for a keyword in the IRC/ |
| 23:17 |
Niften |
? |
| 23:18 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:18 |
Peacock |
the russians log everything on irc :P |
| 23:18 |
Peacock |
http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ |
| 23:20 |
us_0gb |
I don't get it ... Now the map generator is working again .... |
| 23:20 |
us_0gb |
What is going on here? |
| 23:20 |
Peacock |
ogb: it's a feature :P |
| 23:20 |
* prestotron55 |
is going to sleep after Niften inds this proof |
| 23:21 |
Niften |
found it |
| 23:21 |
us_0gb |
No. The map generator sometimes completely failing to generate anything (not even air) is NOT a feature. |
| 23:21 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:22 |
Niften |
oops, wrong one |
| 23:23 |
Niften |
hold on |
| 23:23 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:23 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:23 |
Niften |
0gb i pretty much completed the generator for our game |
| 23:23 |
Niften |
i did |
| 23:23 |
Niften |
i found a series |
| 23:23 |
Niften |
just need to fight the right 1 |
| 23:23 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:24 |
us_0gb |
Oh, you did? Drats, I had most of the node already before we started. |
| 23:26 |
Niften |
got it! |
| 23:26 |
Niften |
http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-08-06 |
| 23:27 |
Niften |
going into skype logs |
| 23:27 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:27 |
Peacock |
of course its a feature :P its a feature until a bug is acknowledged (3 months), then your stupid for another 3 months, then a fix comes out XD |
| 23:28 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:28 |
Peacock |
*you're |
| 23:28 |
us_0gb |
I'm stupid because I can creat two different worlds without altering the code and one will be full of CONTENT_IGNORE? No. I will not accept that. |
| 23:28 |
us_0gb |
*create |
| 23:29 |
Niften |
preston |
| 23:29 |
Niften |
you posted mine |
| 23:29 |
Niften |
me ‎10‎:‎19‎ ‎AM Why should I pay you when you don't do anything though? You sit around pulling mods and expect me to pay you.. Preston Cammarata ‎10‎:‎19‎ ‎AM Exactly, I wouldnt have done anything without pay. 6 others already payed me for their help me ‎10‎:‎19‎ ‎AM Preston ‎10‎:‎20‎ ‎AM You didn't do anything in the first place Preston Cammarata ‎10‎:‎20â |
| 23:29 |
Niften |
exactly what you said ^ |
| 23:30 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:30 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:30 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:30 |
Niften |
preston. |
| 23:30 |
Niften |
stop. lying. |
| 23:30 |
Niften |
i cant put words in that format that quickly. |
| 23:30 |
Niften |
Preston Cammarata ‎10‎:‎35‎ ‎AM K ‎10‎:‎36‎ ‎AM NANNANANANA NNANANA Btw I'm DDoSing Crevis :) nnanananan mnananananqv |
| 23:30 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:30 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:31 |
Niften |
Preston Cammarata ‎10‎:‎19‎ ‎AM Exactly, I wouldnt have done anything without pay. 6 others already payed me for their help |
| 23:31 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:31 |
Peacock |
i wasn't calling you stupid :P im more or less describing my experience with the vlc dev team lol |
| 23:31 |
Niften |
calling yourself a core dev |
| 23:32 |
Niften |
telling me that you had a "job" at minetest |
| 23:32 |
Niften |
LOLOLOLOLOL |
| 23:32 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:32 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:32 |
Peacock |
a job pays real money :P |
| 23:32 |
Niften |
"Im a core dev for Minetest" |
| 23:32 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:32 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:32 |
Peacock |
mt would have to be production quality to pay anyone :P |
| 23:33 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:33 |
Peacock |
deli? i did that for a few months |
| 23:33 |
Peacock |
was fun, got to bring home surplus meats and cheeses |
| 23:33 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:33 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:34 |
Peacock |
prosciutto is hella expensive otherwise |
| 23:34 |
Peacock |
seriously? lol |
| 23:34 |
Peacock |
jesus i was cleaning 18-wheelers at 14 |
| 23:35 |
Peacock |
using slicers is a heckuva lot less dangerous than working a convenience store at night, and they take < 18 yrs old for that here |
| 23:36 |
Peacock |
though none of the hoods tried to rob me twice, not after the first time with the baseball bat lol |
| 23:36 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:36 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:36 |
Peacock |
minetest bot is on strike for better pay |
| 23:36 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:36 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:36 |
prestotron55 |
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| 23:36 |
Peacock |
so you can't fuck it? |
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| 23:37 |
us_0gb |
It seems "Good night. |
| 23:38 |
us_0gb |
Soory, error. |
| 23:38 |
us_0gb |
I meant just good night. |
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