| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:01 |
dafull97 |
Evergreen... |
| 00:01 |
Evergreen |
What? |
| 00:01 |
PilzAdam |
Evergreen... |
| 00:01 |
Evergreen |
..... |
| 00:02 |
kaeza |
Evergreen... |
| 00:02 |
Evergreen |
wat |
| 00:02 |
* Evergreen |
is confused |
| 00:02 |
PilzAdam |
:-p |
| 00:04 |
kaeza |
/topic Today is "Ping Evergreen" Day! \:D/ |
| 00:04 |
PilzAdam |
lol, dat face: \:D/ |
| 00:06 |
dafull97 |
sorry, i was saying thank you but got distracted |
| 00:06 |
dafull97 |
so thanks |
| 00:06 |
Evergreen |
Okay, your welcome then. What exactly is the thanks for? |
| 00:07 |
dafull97 |
helping me |
| 00:07 |
Evergreen |
Oh yes, I forgot. No problem |
| 00:08 |
Evergreen |
Someone should make a *ping* some random person day the channel topic |
| 00:08 |
PilzAdam |
no, not again |
| 00:09 |
milleja46 |
PilzAdam: what? why? sounds fun as long as it's not a newb pinging list XD |
| 00:10 |
PilzAdam |
I tried "Ping PilzAdam to get 7 days of luck" once, but sfan5 removed it |
| 00:10 |
milleja46 |
well kinda makes sense >_> |
| 00:10 |
Evergreen |
Yeah, that probably isn't a good idea |
| 00:10 |
milleja46 |
but it could be a user joke :P |
| 00:10 |
[0gb_us] |
That's because sfan5 doesn't like people getting luck. |
| 00:10 |
PilzAdam |
protip: you still get 7 days of luck when pinging PilzAdam |
| 00:10 |
milleja46 |
without actually putting in the topic though :-\ |
| 00:12 |
ShadowNinja |
PilzAdam, PilzAdam, PilzAdam, PilzAdam: Does it add up? |
| 00:12 |
ShadowNinja |
;-) |
| 00:12 |
PilzAdam |
no |
| 00:12 |
ShadowNinja |
:-( |
| 00:12 |
PilzAdam |
hey, that would be too easy |
| 00:12 |
* ShadowNinja |
writes a pingadam command to ShadowBot... |
| 00:12 |
ShadowNinja |
s/to/for/ |
| 00:14 |
ShadowNinja |
ShadowBot: pingadam |
| 00:14 |
ShadowBot |
PilzAdam PilzAdam PilzAdam PilzAdam PilzAdam PilzAdam PilzAdam PilzAdam PilzAdam |
| 00:14 |
ShadowNinja |
:-D |
| 00:14 |
PilzAdam |
now we have a lucky bot |
| 00:15 |
Evergreen |
Now you should get your bot to play the slot machines or something |
| 00:17 |
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| 00:18 |
[0gb_us] |
What? You have a command for that? |
| 00:18 |
[0gb_us] |
Oh, it's new. My bad. |
| 00:19 |
ShadowNinja |
Evergreen: ,,(list Games) |
| 00:19 |
ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette |
| 00:24 |
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| 00:29 |
Allegaeon |
Hello |
| 00:31 |
PilzAdam |
hi |
| 00:35 |
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| 00:39 |
Evergreen |
Lol, xkcd is awesome |
| 00:39 |
PilzAdam |
you dont say |
| 00:42 |
[0gb_us] |
Hello! |
| 00:47 |
Allegaeon |
where can i find granite ni a mintest serer??? |
| 00:48 |
Allegaeon |
could you give emh the coordinates? |
| 00:48 |
Allegaeon |
*meh |
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PilzAdam |
Allegaeon, which server? |
| 00:49 |
Allegaeon |
Landrush |
| 00:50 |
PilzAdam |
I guess granite is a part of a mod |
| 00:50 |
Allegaeon |
yeah |
| 00:51 |
fairiestoy |
Its from the technic mod |
| 00:51 |
PilzAdam |
I guess granite spawns randomly |
| 00:52 |
fairiestoy |
You can find granite in quite bigger veins if you visit the public mines Alle |
| 00:52 |
fairiestoy |
(one is near /spawn 6 near the lake or in town) |
| 00:55 |
Allegaeon |
Ohhhh |
| 00:55 |
Allegaeon |
Thanks :-) |
| 00:55 |
Allegaeon |
But where in spawn 6? |
| 00:57 |
Allegaeon |
like where is the public mine???? |
| 00:57 |
fairiestoy |
Allegaeon, i had a better idea, type /spawn 1 There is a marble pyramid from EverHill, it is more safe (because it is only partially claimed and with water elevator ) and it goes deeper |
| 00:58 |
fairiestoy |
And you can't miss it from spawn point ( a marble pyramid near public power station ) |
| 00:58 |
Allegaeon |
Ive been there lots of times |
| 00:58 |
Allegaeon |
are you sure its there? |
| 00:59 |
fairiestoy |
Yep, ask in the global. Somebody will lead you otherwise :3 |
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| 01:05 |
Allegaeon |
'Thanks dude :-) |
| 01:05 |
Allegaeon |
But what are the coordinates? |
| 01:06 |
fairiestoy |
yw, did you asked in global? Im not ingame atm ( if nobody responses i come online to show you, no problem at all ) |
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| 01:08 |
Allegaeon |
Ok |
| 01:08 |
Allegaeon |
maybe tommorow |
| 01:08 |
Allegaeon |
thanks for the help |
| 01:11 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 01:15 |
ShadowNinja |
Is it posible to make a "text" hud element wrap? |
| 01:20 |
ShadowNinja |
"scale" seems t do nothing... |
| 01:20 |
ShadowNinja |
to* |
| 01:22 |
ShadowNinja |
hmmmm: ^ |
| 01:22 |
hmmmm |
hello there |
| 01:22 |
hmmmm |
I really don't know, i'd have to look at the source code |
| 01:22 |
hmmmm |
so, what, no "welcome back"? |
| 01:22 |
hmmmm |
nobody noticed that i was gone for like 5 days? |
| 01:26 |
dafull97 |
Evergreen you there? |
| 01:26 |
ShadowNinja |
Welcome back. :-) FWIW I noticed. |
| 01:27 |
dafull97 |
can someone help me with server side solution |
| 01:27 |
hmmmm |
i moved to Ohio within that time and went 4 days without internet |
| 01:29 |
hmmmm |
being completely honest, the area i'm at is not really that bad, but living alone blows hard |
| 01:29 |
hmmmm |
take my advice, don't live on your own expecting it to be awesome |
| 01:29 |
hmmmm |
you'll be sorely disappointed |
| 01:29 |
hmmmm |
until you start making friends at least, which could take a long time |
| 01:29 |
hmmmm |
also you miss your family like crazy |
| 01:30 |
ShadowNinja |
Um, player:hud_change(id, "text", "Some different text") --> text changes from white to black. |
| 01:30 |
hmmmm |
within the time i had no internet i figured i'd try to get some more work done on the mapgen configuration menu... couldn't focus for longer than 2 minutes |
| 01:30 |
ShadowNinja |
And the text doesn't actually change. |
| 01:30 |
hmmmm |
shadowninja, i wasn't the last person to dick around with that, someone else was |
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| 01:31 |
hmmmm |
it could be that it became broken since then |
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| 01:32 |
kaeza |
ShadowNinja, may be related: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-04-20#i_3035409 |
| 01:36 |
ShadowNinja |
kaeza: Try number = 0xFFFFFF in hud_add and see if the color changes to black. |
| 01:37 |
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| 01:39 |
ShadowNinja |
hmmmm: This was reverted? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/14ba94ad6a0e2176106af08e41d99ad81b03e9e4 |
| 01:40 |
hmmmm |
was that?? |
| 01:40 |
hmmmm |
to be completely honest I barely remember any of that |
| 01:40 |
hmmmm |
it's been so long since i've worked on hud related things |
| 01:40 |
ShadowNinja |
The current version isn't like that... |
| 01:41 |
ShadowNinja |
This reverted it: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/ab433775777c4f5055bcf4d2a1cffc506c4f9961 |
| 01:41 |
hmmmm |
WHELP |
| 01:42 |
hmmmm |
freaking sapier's huge sweeping changes |
| 01:42 |
hmmmm |
i knew something like this would've happened but you can never predict where |
| 01:42 |
hmmmm |
just manually apply the patch and be done with it I suppose |
| 01:50 |
ShadowNinja |
Yep, that was the issue with hud_change, it works properly now. It has two simple merge conflicts. Can you re-commit it hmmmm? |
| 01:50 |
hmmmm |
someone else do it |
| 01:50 |
hmmmm |
i need to go hunt for food right now |
| 01:51 |
ShadowNinja |
kahrl: ^? |
| 01:52 |
hmmmm |
I'm serious, I need to look for food |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
hi all. |
| 01:52 |
* VanessaE |
hands hmmmm some chicken salad. |
| 01:52 |
hmmmm |
the only thing i have is leftovers and i don't have a microwave yet |
| 01:52 |
hmmmm |
and i can't cook myself any noodles because i didn't get the water filter yet |
| 01:53 |
VanessaE |
time to head off to Subway then, it sounds like. |
| 01:53 |
VanessaE |
(if they're still open) |
| 01:53 |
hmmmm |
subway really went downhill |
| 01:54 |
ShadowNinja |
Time to go to <Local food retailer> then. |
| 01:54 |
VanessaE |
...or Blimpie's, or Quizno's |
| 01:54 |
hmmmm |
can't do that at 10 pm |
| 01:54 |
VanessaE |
groceries later - never shop while hungry |
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| 02:00 |
ShadowNinja |
Why do mod developers use variables to make sure globalstep functions that check all the players only run once every second or so when the function takes about 0.00005 seconds? |
| 02:01 |
ShadowNinja |
Well my mod will be more responsive... |
| 02:02 |
fairiestoy |
Shouldn't that be, what minetest.after is for? |
| 02:02 |
ShadowNinja |
(That is with only singleplayer, but I can't imagine more players would more than double it) |
| 02:04 |
ShadowNinja |
fairiestoy: No, things that run in a loop every tenth of a second or so should use register_globalstep(that is what minetest.after uses) |
| 02:05 |
fairiestoy |
Okay, thanks for the explanation |
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| 02:08 |
jojoa1997 |
hello |
| 02:10 |
fairiestoy |
I have a general question if allowed. What is better according to performance: Running one ( or a few ) ABMs, or trying to achieve the same effect with other time routines like globalsteps? |
| 02:10 |
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| 02:12 |
dafull97 |
has anyone ever used PilzAdams mods? |
| 02:13 |
dafull97 |
VanessaE, ^^ have you? |
| 02:14 |
jojoa1997 |
does pilzadam use globalstep or abms? |
| 02:16 |
fairiestoy |
Not informed about that. Why? |
| 02:17 |
ShadowNinja |
fairiestoy: Use ABMs for working with nodes, globalstep for doing global things. |
| 02:19 |
fairiestoy |
ShadowNinja: So it has better performance using ABMs? I thought about it to change furnaces to kick in after metadata has been moved, and finish the stuff when accessing it the next time or minetest.after( finished_time_period ) instead of using ABMs which are iterating through the available nodes in this area |
| 02:22 |
ShadowNinja |
fairiestoy: I'm not sure what you mean. |
| 02:24 |
fairiestoy |
Atm furnaces 'kick in' when the running ABM detects that the furnace provides all necessary parameters ( fuel and material to be cooked ). If you now use on_metadata_move (don't remember the right name) and kick it in when both parameters are given, you don't need the abm (first point) |
| 02:24 |
fairiestoy |
So you save one abm which runs all the time |
| 02:25 |
fairiestoy |
To now calculate the amount of material which has been cooked, you can precalc the time needed which is given A) By the amount of fuel and B) The amount of material |
| 02:25 |
fairiestoy |
And use minetest.after to replace the active furnace with the inactive again |
| 02:26 |
fairiestoy |
If you now want to stop the production in the mid, just replace the formspec meta, and use on_rightclick in the node definition of the furnace and let it calculate the time difference and the possible amount. |
| 02:27 |
fairiestoy |
Landrush for example has the technic mod installed, and there are more then 120 furnaces ( circa ). I think saving this abm could then worth it, but only if it works |
| 02:32 |
ShadowNinja |
This doesn't sound like it will work, but I have to go now, bye. |
| 02:32 |
fairiestoy |
That was the question :3 bye |
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| 02:34 |
Allegaeon |
I have a question |
| 02:35 |
Allegaeon |
Do syphons work with water in minetest? |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Re-fix hud_change stat argument retrieval fb6a789991 2013-09-25T19:39:10-07:00 http://git.io/Tzd-bA |
| 02:41 |
dafull97 |
my new server is going preety good |
| 02:41 |
dafull97 |
=d |
| 02:41 |
dafull97 |
working on new mods |
| 02:42 |
kahrl |
fairiestoy: not sure if it'll actually work, but that was one of the intended uses when metadata callbacks were added |
| 02:43 |
kahrl |
don't use minetest.after though, because the callback will be lost if the server is shut down in the meantime |
| 02:44 |
Allegaeon |
Do syphons work with water in minetest? |
| 02:44 |
fairiestoy |
Hmm... Okay, thanks for the info kahrl |
| 02:45 |
Allegaeon |
Syphones are tubes a water that are in the shape of an inverse U |
| 02:45 |
Allegaeon |
Its properties allow one source of water to travel to another place in that shape |
| 02:46 |
Allegaeon |
Does this property exist in minetest? |
| 02:47 |
fairiestoy |
Do you mean within the pipeworks mod Allegaeon? |
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| 02:49 |
Allegaeon |
So can anyone ask my question? |
| 02:49 |
Allegaeon |
*answer |
| 02:50 |
Renoki |
Does this property exist in minetest? |
| 02:50 |
Renoki |
oh, answer. |
| 02:50 |
Renoki |
uh |
| 02:51 |
fairiestoy |
Allegaeon, if you are working with pipeworks, you can make any shapes afaik |
| 02:52 |
Allegaeon |
Ok |
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| 02:52 |
Allegaeon |
Well what about without pipes? |
| 02:53 |
Allegaeon |
if there is enough water would it rise and go via pathway in an inverse u shape? |
| 03:00 |
fairiestoy |
Well, in fact if you set a water node on top of another water node, it will rise |
| 03:00 |
fairiestoy |
(kind of) |
| 03:02 |
Allegaeon |
Oh cool |
| 03:02 |
Allegaeon |
wait where are they in the inventory |
| 03:04 |
Allegaeon |
? |
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| 03:18 |
thefamilygrog66 |
howdy folks |
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| 03:22 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Whoa, that was a strong magic flying bean! |
| 03:22 |
thefamilygrog66 |
http://i.imgur.com/mf9qyx4.png |
| 03:25 |
pitriss |
oh noes, drugs now also in mt! :D |
| 03:25 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Not drugs - magic beans! |
| 03:26 |
thefamilygrog66 |
No beanstalks yet though... |
| 03:27 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Just running, jumping and flying beans. Good times, as long as damage is not enabled! |
| 03:37 |
Allegaeon |
LOL pitriss |
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thefamilygrog66 |
0gb is morphing! |
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us\0gb |
Oh, sorry, I'm trying something new. |
| 03:54 |
thefamilygrog66 |
No need to apologize, haha. |
| 03:54 |
us\0gb |
Or sort of new. Did you know a tilde and anything after it will be dropped from your name? |
| 03:54 |
us\0gb |
"/nick us~0gb" resulted in my name being "us". |
| 04:03 |
thefamilygrog66 |
killer tilde |
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| 04:23 |
hoodedice |
So... |
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| 04:23 |
hoodedice |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=112107#p112107 |
| 04:24 |
us^0gb |
hoodedice, bad request. |
| 04:24 |
hoodedice |
? |
| 04:24 |
us^0gb |
THe URI you posted. |
| 04:24 |
hoodedice |
Bad, as in: Bad math prob, don't bother me with it? |
| 04:25 |
hoodedice |
okay |
| 04:25 |
us^0gb |
As in it says "Bad request. The link you followed is incorrect or outdated.". |
| 04:25 |
hoodedice |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=112107#p112107 |
| 04:25 |
us^0gb |
A broken page. |
| 04:25 |
hoodedice |
(Same schist output) |
| 04:26 |
us^0gb |
Same page, same error page. |
| 04:26 |
hoodedice |
Oh, it's offtopic, you'll have to log into the forums first |
| 04:26 |
us^0gb |
Oh, got it. I didn't know part of the forum was in lock down. |
| 04:28 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Hey us^0gb, look what Simonster had me make: http://i.imgur.com/mf9qyx4.png |
| 04:28 |
us^0gb |
Do those make you fly? |
| 04:29 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Yes, the blue ones do. Red makes you jump really high, and green makes you run fast. |
| 04:29 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Best to uncheck 'enable damage' though... |
| 04:29 |
us^0gb |
Ha ha, nice! How do you do it? |
| 04:30 |
us^0gb |
Attached entities? |
| 04:30 |
thefamilygrog66 |
physics_override |
| 04:31 |
us^0gb |
You can override a single player's physics without effecting other players? Now that has potential for creativity. THough you already know that, clearly. |
| 04:31 |
hoodedice |
thefamilygrog66: http://www.watchcartoononline.com/thumbs/Jackie-Chan-Adventures-First-Season-1-Episode-1.jpg |
| 04:32 |
thefamilygrog66 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1611 |
| 04:32 |
hoodedice |
(Talismans seem better than beans for the purpose) |
| 04:32 |
us^0gb |
Hmm. I really need to learn the new API, but I'm still scratching the ground here trying to reinvent the wheel. |
| 04:32 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Hey, the boy wanted magic beans, what can I say? |
| 04:32 |
thefamilygrog66 |
:) |
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us^0gb |
You found a way, which is awesome. I might have to steal your idea though. |
| 04:33 |
hoodedice |
=) |
| 04:33 |
hoodedice |
Posting this again: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=112107#p112107 |
| 04:34 |
hoodedice |
(I need backfeed) |
| 04:34 |
us^0gb |
Not for now though. I'm still drawing textures and defining mapgen nodes. |
| 04:34 |
thefamilygrog66 |
For sure, us^0gb! I wish I could figure out how to turn off falling damage for specific players (i.e. not involving a particular node) |
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thefamilygrog66 |
At this point, as I mentioned, it only really works when damage is turned off. |
| 04:35 |
us^0gb |
Hmm, yeah. I'm also going to try figuring out how those node damage-blockers work without reading the code. I think I saw the right tool in the API, but I need to get the basics set up first. |
| 04:37 |
us^0gb |
As in, basic trees and such. Though I'm going to go a bit nuts with them and try to make the C++ trees grow different nodes in different seasons by redefining mapgen_leaves and such mid-game. |
| 04:37 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I was able to turn off damage when a player ate a bean, though it would affect all players for the 30 seconds or so, and the player still lost hearts (though that didn't matter). |
| 04:37 |
us^0gb |
I don't know if redefining aliases mid-ame will work though. |
| 04:37 |
us^0gb |
(mid-game |
| 04:37 |
us^0gb |
*mid-game |
| 04:38 |
thefamilygrog66 |
that could work, I think |
| 04:39 |
thefamilygrog66 |
how would you define seasons though, timewise? |
| 04:39 |
us^0gb |
I would either define them in terms of three-month intervals or one-month intervals. I haven't decided which. |
| 04:40 |
us^0gb |
Both have advanteges. |
| 04:41 |
thefamilygrog66 |
do trees actually "grow" leaves during gameplay though, or are they already defined when the tree is? |
| 04:42 |
us^0gb |
They are defined when the tree grows. So a spring-time tree will always be a spring-time tree, even in the winter. |
| 04:43 |
thefamilygrog66 |
so new (i.e. additional) leaves don't grow |
| 04:43 |
us^0gb |
That way you can keep your creations the way you created them. |
| 04:43 |
us^0gb |
Right, no new leaves. |
| 04:44 |
thefamilygrog66 |
so it would just be a matter of redefining default:leaves every season |
| 04:46 |
us^0gb |
Not redefining default:leaves, as that would redefine all copies of the leaves and players would have to reconnect to see the change. Instead, redifine the mapgen_leaves alias, which would point to default:leaves_spring, default:leaves_summer, et cetera. |
| 04:46 |
us^0gb |
default:branches_winter, maybe. |
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thefamilygrog66 |
how many seconds in a default minetest day? |
| 04:50 |
us^0gb |
In a default day? I'm not sure. |
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| 04:53 |
us^0gb |
I wonder if maybe 12 "seasons" would be a good idea. It would show a more gradual change. |
| 04:54 |
thefamilygrog66 |
true |
| 04:55 |
thefamilygrog66 |
for four seasons, each being 30 minetest days long, something like this might work: http://pastebin.com/cUSKhXLR |
| 04:56 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I remember seeing a seasons mod awhile back - not sure how they did it |
| 04:58 |
us^0gb |
That changes the already-placed nodes. Rather, I need to call minetest.register_alias("mapgen_leaves", "seasons:leaves_spring"). Also, I meant real-time months, not Minetest months. |
| 04:58 |
thefamilygrog66 |
ahh |
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us^0gb |
This isn't going to be like the seasons plugin, but a little different. |
| 04:59 |
us^0gb |
If you build out of spring leaves with flowers, you can be sure they'll stay as spring leaves with flowers. |
| 05:00 |
thefamilygrog66 |
gotcha |
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us^0gb |
Unless I decide to implement fire or something. |
| 05:00 |
thefamilygrog66 |
fire bad |
| 05:00 |
us^0gb |
I don't know if I want fire in my game ... |
| 05:00 |
us^0gb |
I think it works well for single player worlds, but not multiplayer. |
| 05:01 |
thefamilygrog66 |
The only fire in mine currently is caused by Dungeon Masters and their crazy fireballs |
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us^0gb |
Yeah ... that's probably the best idea. Keep fire out of the hands of attackers. |
| 05:02 |
thefamilygrog66 |
It's bad enough when the DMs burn a huge hole in the ground. |
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us^0gb |
Yeah ... given my OCD, I can't stand the node loss they cause. |
| 05:03 |
us^0gb |
There's a limited amount of dirt available, I don't want it destroyed. |
| 05:03 |
thefamilygrog66 |
hehe |
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us^0gb |
I'm considering not implementing /pulverize in my game. |
| 05:05 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Are you running world edit? |
| 05:06 |
us^0gb |
No, I am not. |
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us^0gb |
I might add something similar to worldedit in the future, but a bit Nerfed. |
| 05:08 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I like it for doing repairs, making tunnels and so on |
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us^0gb |
But for now, as I said, I don't even have all the mapgen nodes defined, so it's not a priority at the moment. |
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us^0gb |
Yeah, it has great uses, but is too powerful for my tastes. |
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us^0gb |
"//set default:nyancat" "Oops, poptart cats no longer have any value." |
| 05:13 |
kaeza |
same as creative mode |
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kaeza |
what's the challenge if you can make items out of thin air? |
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us^0gb |
Exactly. |
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us^0gb |
That's why I built my Nerfed version, though I'll probably rebuild it, not use the old one. |
| 05:15 |
us^0gb |
My version takes the material out of your inventory as it places nodes. |
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thefamilygrog66 |
night folks! |
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us^0gb |
Night! |
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us^0gb |
My alias swapping idea did not work, and thus, my plans are foiled. |
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us^0gb |
I could implement it with an extra node and an ABM, but that would be hacky. |
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sfan5 |
ShadowBot: coin |
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sfan5 |
:( |
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sfan5 |
:-( |
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us^0gb |
Hmm? |
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us^0gb |
WHat was that supposed to do? |
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sfan5 |
<ShadowBot> ShadowNinja: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette |
| 06:33 |
VanessaE |
hi all. |
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us^0gb |
Hello! |
| 06:36 |
us^0gb |
Why are some of the ABMs defined in Lua, but others are defined in C++? Does anyone here know? |
| 06:37 |
VanessaE |
leftovers from the transition from 0.3.x to 0.4.x? |
| 06:37 |
us^0gb |
Some are new though. They added one for dirt_with_snow. |
| 06:37 |
us^0gb |
And the jungle trees. |
| 06:37 |
us^0gb |
Jungle saplings, I should say. |
| 06:37 |
VanessaE |
wtf? |
| 06:38 |
VanessaE |
yeah I knew about that one |
| 06:38 |
VanessaE |
but I don't know that it's particularly new is it? |
| 06:38 |
VanessaE |
I mean, we'd had jungles like, forever |
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us^0gb |
It's newer than the Lua API. |
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us^0gb |
Meaning it's not a leftover. |
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VanessaE |
huh. |
| 06:39 |
VanessaE |
well I don't know enough of the C++ codebase to understand 99% of what goes on in it or why :) |
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us^0gb |
Ha ha, I understand that. I was trying to work with CONTENT_AIR the other day, and I couldn't figure out what it was being used for and why. |
| 06:42 |
kahrl |
it's just the node id of air |
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us^0gb |
I know what it is, but I don't see how the air node is relevant in most contexts in which it appears. |
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us^0gb |
Contexts which shouldn't involve any nodes at all. |
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us^0gb |
And which don't involve any user-defined nodes. |
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kahrl |
I see it mostly used in the mapgen so it e.g. checks if air has been generated somewhere |
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us^0gb |
It's like the air node has some sort of special purpose throughout half the engine |
| 06:44 |
us^0gb |
. |
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kahrl |
examples? |
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us^0gb |
I deleted my local copy, making it hard to grep. I'll see what I can find though. |
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us^0gb |
kahrl, server.cpp |
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kahrl |
the client prediction is that a dug node is replaced by air |
| 06:49 |
kahrl |
if that doesn't happen the server must send the actual result |
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us^0gb |
Okay, That makes sense. |
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us^0gb |
I suppose air is special. But it doesn't mean I understand much of the code it's entangled in. |
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us^0gb |
The fact that it's the only node that is not used for error handling but is hardcoded into the engine anyway speaks for itself, if you ask me. |
| 06:53 |
kahrl |
it's just incredibly convenient to have at least one non-error node to rely on |
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us^0gb |
Hmm. That could be why then. |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all; happy European Day of Languages! :-D |
| 08:50 |
jin_xi |
everyday is some fucking day |
| 08:52 |
VanessaE |
better "happy X day" than "and you all can just piss off" :) |
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JamesTait |
VanessaE, well, yes, I prefer to think of it that way too. And plain old "good morning" every morning just gets a bit boring. |
| 09:05 |
VanessaE |
yup |
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JamesTait |
So what's new? |
| 09:06 |
VanessaE |
nothing much |
| 09:06 |
JamesTait |
I saw someone, maybe you, commenting on the zeg9 farming mod yesterday. That sounds like a lot of fun. |
| 09:07 |
JamesTait |
I've lost track of the mods my boys have installed and uninstalled. Maybe that's one of them, but I'll point it out to them anyway. |
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JamesTait |
I'll have a little play with it on my laptop and then maybe install it on our server. |
| 09:08 |
VanessaE |
yeah, I use his fork of farming_plus on my server |
| 09:09 |
JamesTait |
Ah, well then since I trust you, I'll forego the playing around on my laptop bit. ;) |
| 09:09 |
VanessaE |
well still play around with it some |
| 09:10 |
VanessaE |
imho it spawns plants a little too frequently |
| 09:10 |
JamesTait |
Is it configurable? If not, I guess it's only a matter of tweaking a line or two? |
| 09:11 |
VanessaE |
I haven't looked into the code yet |
| 09:11 |
VanessaE |
but I'm sure it's not too hard. the distribution looks perlin-based |
| 09:12 |
JamesTait |
I'd really like to have a bash at mod hacking. I know nothing of Lua, and even less about the Minetest API, but I look at the code in the mods I download and it looks quite understandable. |
| 09:13 |
VanessaE |
it's not hard to learn |
| 09:15 |
JamesTait |
I read through a tutorial not long back, I think it made a special kind of tree that could be used for decoration. That all looked quite straightforward. |
| 09:17 |
JamesTait |
But I guess it's like any language, you need to learn the language syntax and the standard library. Soon, when things settle down and I'm not spending my evenings catching up on work. |
| 09:17 |
JamesTait |
I notice 0.4.7 is in the Ubuntu Saucy repo, presumably sync'd from Debian. |
| 09:18 |
VanessaE |
cool. too bad it's already outdated :) |
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JamesTait |
True, but I think in Raring it was 0.3.5 or something. |
| 09:19 |
VanessaE |
0.3.1 probably |
| 09:19 |
JamesTait |
We use the daily PPA anyway. ;) |
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VanessaE |
hi |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 11:11 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 11:19 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: regarding casimir's move request, I'd have to say no. |
| 11:20 |
VanessaE |
maybe it could be moved to "Mintest-related projects" or something |
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caemir |
casimir >< |
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kaeza |
maybe it could be renamed to communitycraft_game :P |
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kaeza |
random spam: http://kaeza.mooo.com/pub/minetest/wiki/wiki.lua?page=Main.en |
| 11:41 |
kaeza |
^ an online viewer for Wiki mod pages |
| 11:45 |
VanessaE |
too mad mouse focus is busted in Linux. |
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VanessaE |
(in the F10 console) |
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dafull97 |
Hey guys |
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VanessaE |
hi |
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dafull97 |
Hey VanessaE, i got m server running got about 10 mods or so... |
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dafull97 |
added the Gun mod, havnt tested |
| 12:28 |
VanessaE |
cool |
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dafull97 |
so question about modding i think, how can you make a box pop-up at start-up when they join? |
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dafull97 |
so i can tell rules and information |
| 12:30 |
VanessaE |
no clue, I suck at making formspecs |
| 12:30 |
dafull97 |
is there anyone that you know that has them in there server? |
| 12:30 |
VanessaE |
most server admins just have a big wall of signs somewhere near the spawn point |
| 12:31 |
dafull97 |
thats a good idea, but i want new players to even see it |
| 12:31 |
dafull97 |
if they dont have a cluw what they are |
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dafull97 |
clue* |
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dafull97 |
and how to play the game |
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sfan5 |
hi everyone |
| 12:48 |
dafull97 |
hello! |
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dafull97 |
sfan5 |
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dafull97 |
do you own a server? |
| 12:49 |
sfan5 |
yes |
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dafull97 |
do you know how to make a pop-up like explaining rules when server starts |
| 12:49 |
dafull97 |
? |
| 12:49 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 12:50 |
dafull97 |
ok, thanks anyway... |
| 12:50 |
dafull97 |
what is your server called? |
| 12:51 |
PilzAdam |
dafull97, when the server starts or when a player joins? |
| 12:52 |
dafull97 |
like when a player joins it does a pop-up to them expalining rules, etc. |
| 12:52 |
dafull97 |
explaining* |
| 12:54 |
dafull97 |
also, what about starting them with items? |
| 12:55 |
PilzAdam |
something like this should work: https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/6713763 |
| 12:57 |
dafull97 |
wow yes, im not familar with lua, but i can read code to a point... so where "server_rules" i put my server rules correct> |
| 12:57 |
dafull97 |
and where would this go? |
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PilzAdam |
no |
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* Jordach_ |
hurts |
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PilzAdam |
the rules will go into the label at the top |
| 12:57 |
dafull97 |
what i do with this again? |
| 12:57 |
PilzAdam |
instead of "Test text" |
| 12:57 |
dafull97 |
ok... |
| 12:58 |
dafull97 |
like i said not familar with lua |
| 12:58 |
PilzAdam |
it goes into the init.lua of a new mod |
| 12:58 |
dafull97 |
ok, thanks! |
| 12:58 |
dafull97 |
is there a way to use python for mods? |
| 12:58 |
PilzAdam |
no |
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Jordach |
it's Lua or GTFO |
| 12:59 |
Jordach |
and no, im not irc'ing from my college; i'm feeling like shit |
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PilzAdam |
I think the correct word is "chatting" and not "irc'ing" |
| 13:02 |
Jordach |
anyone got maptools:super_apple? i need one atm |
| 13:02 |
VanessaE |
/give Jordach maptools:super_apple 2 |
| 13:02 |
VanessaE |
;) |
| 13:02 |
Jordach |
:) |
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* Jordach |
is eating lunch |
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Jordach |
hello Evergreen |
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Evergreen |
Hi |
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* Jordach |
feels like shit literally |
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* Jordach |
considers a day in the life of renders |
| 13:13 |
Jordach |
comic book anyone? |
| 13:13 |
kaeza |
Jordach, Minetest Manga |
| 13:13 |
Jordach |
shit |
| 13:13 |
Jordach |
shit shit shi |
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VanessaE |
Jordach: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Q9D4dcYng |
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kaeza |
featuring Minetest-tan :P |
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Jordach |
i've just seen an infinite loop |
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* Jordach |
making a render of Jordach making a render of Jordach]# |
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Jordach |
-]# |
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Jordach |
this can go on an on an on |
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VanessaE |
Jordachception |
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Jordach |
plol |
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PilzAdam |
when Im ill it helps me to not sit in front of a screen |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam, i've been running to the toilet like clockwork |
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Jordach |
every 40 mins |
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PilzAdam |
too much info |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam, the screen isnt my problem; food is |
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Jordach |
or my body literally dumped my entire sugar content |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
| 13:21 |
VanessaE |
hi |
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Jordach |
hey ruben |
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kaeza |
http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Rob/devices2.png |
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Jordach |
> flucker |
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Jordach |
take the l out |
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kaeza |
heh |
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* Jordach |
pokes Taoki |
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Jordach |
Taoki, http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/379/untitled.png |
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rubenwardy |
Nice jordach! |
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Jordach |
i always post 1080p renders in my topic too |
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nanomo |
hi, someone can tell me the requirments to run minetest? |
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nanomo |
i have a windows 2003 server, after i open minetest.exe it's close the cmd windows |
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caemir |
my god http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/340/1017285_127361110805471_1417470548_n.jpg |
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Jordach |
caemir, that's my machine |
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ShadowNinja |
nanomo: 2003 sounds very old, do you have a good graphics card? |
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* harrison |
deploys Cuttlefish Cloak |
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VanessaE |
webdesigner says he's working on it, specifically, physics. |
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VanessaE |
he wants the motion of the vehicle to be accurate |
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* Jordach |
already complained about physics in minetest |
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* harrison |
drifts towards the reef |
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Jordach |
lol harrison |
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* Jordach |
pokes sfan5 |
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* harrison |
's tentacles quiver listlessly |
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PilzAdam |
nanomo, have you downloaded the official release? |
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PilzAdam |
harrison, cant you bring a bit more variety in your posts? its kinda boring for me when I have to read the same thing copied to 3 channels |
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nanomo |
2003 its onlye for the server |
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harrison |
one' s public is a cruel taskmistress indeed |
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nanomo |
yes its the official 0.4.7 |
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dafull97 |
hey all =D |
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PilzAdam |
nanomo, do you run it from cmd and the cmd crashes then, or does the cmd that opens when you click on the .exe close? |
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nanomo |
whn open the exe |
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* harrison |
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* Jordach |
thinks MSVC++ Redist is missing |
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PilzAdam |
nanomo, try running it from cmd |
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nanomo |
PilzAdam: you mean runing the exe from cmd? tis happen the same |
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dafull97 |
stupid internet |
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dafull97 |
haha |
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Jordach |
lollolololol |
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Jordach |
blender's physics simulation fail |
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dafull97 |
PilzAdam |
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dafull97 |
can you get me that link again> |
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dafull97 |
to the pop-up, rules thing? |
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waits for render |
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* john_minetest |
waits for 17:00 |
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dafull97 |
Jordach, how do you do that like make it like your doing something |
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Jordach |
dafull97, magic |
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dafull97 |
:P |
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dafull97 |
can someone tell me? |
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dafull97 |
haha |
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* dafull97 |
Found out how =D |
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Jordach |
john_minetest, plol |
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waits for 18:00 |
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dafull97 |
PilzAdam, if you are on query me please |
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dafull97 |
VannessaE, do you know lua ? |
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ShadowNinja |
dafull97: Yes, she does, in fact she was in the top 1% of github Lua coders last I checked... |
| 15:09 |
dafull97 |
ok, well do you? =D |
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ShadowNinja |
dafull97: Yes. |
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sfan5 |
holy fucking shit |
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VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: I am? |
| 15:11 |
* sfan5 |
got Irrlicht working on android |
| 15:11 |
VanessaE |
(and indeed, I know Lua, at least enough to code for minetest) |
| 15:11 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: http://osrc.dfm.io/VanessaE |
| 15:11 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: WOOT! |
| 15:11 |
dafull97 |
cool can you help me via pastebin, i got a code from PilzAdam that made a popup when players join, however it will not work :( |
| 15:11 |
sfan5 |
just becase I did not call a function the whole shared library did not load |
| 15:11 |
sfan5 |
and.... |
| 15:11 |
sfan5 |
I think I need a coffee now |
| 15:11 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: whoa, how the hell did that happen? |
| 15:11 |
sfan5 |
or a tea, whatever |
| 15:12 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: You update your mods a lot... |
| 15:12 |
dafull97 |
VanessaE, you deserve it... help me alot =D |
| 15:12 |
diemartin |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=112153#p112153 |
| 15:13 |
dafull97 |
ShadowNinja, can you help me... and VanessaE if she wants =D |
| 15:13 |
VanessaE |
afraid I can't right now |
| 15:13 |
ShadowNinja |
dafull97: Maybe in an hour or so. |
| 15:13 |
VanessaE |
I have to get outta here in a couple mins |
| 15:13 |
PilzAdam |
"It seems—from their activity streams—that PilzAdam and celeron55 are probably friends or at least virtual friends. With this in mind, it's worth noting that celeron55 is less of a pusher. There is also an obvious connection between PilzAdam and Zeg9, Novatux, jojoa1997 and Traxie21." |
| 15:14 |
dafull97 |
Even better, PilzAdam... Help? =D |
| 15:14 |
dafull97 |
Thanks anyway guys... @ VanessaE and ShadowNinja |
| 15:14 |
PilzAdam |
lol, the website says that I work best in the morning, but its actually deep in the night |
| 15:15 |
PilzAdam |
I usually sleep at 10 AM |
| 15:15 |
Jordach |
oh look |
| 15:15 |
Jordach |
diemartin, posts removed |
| 15:16 |
PilzAdam |
"PilzAdam is a serious C expert" never knew that ;-) |
| 15:16 |
ShadowNinja |
Yep, the "inperfect" timezone detection is very bad. |
| 15:16 |
Jordach |
dafuq |
| 15:16 |
VanessaE |
gotta run |
| 15:16 |
dafull97 |
PilzAdam?? |
| 15:17 |
Jordach |
\o/ |
| 15:17 |
Jordach |
Jordan has contributed to repositories in 6 different languages. In particular, Jordan is a serious C++ expert |
| 15:18 |
Jordach |
say wut |
| 15:19 |
Jordach |
i call complete bullshit http://osrc.dfm.io/Jordach |
| 15:19 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: It checks the repo's main language, not the language of your code. |
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dafull97 |
PilzAdam: when you get the chance Query me... mods didnt work correctly, thanks... |
| 15:20 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, you always looked like a slave to me |
| 15:20 |
PilzAdam |
:-p |
| 15:21 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, bitch please |
| 15:22 |
PilzAdam |
ShadowNinja, that site is complete bullshit, stick to ohloh |
| 15:22 |
Jordach |
btw, as im working on a rendered comic book, im returning cel shading |
| 15:22 |
PilzAdam |
dafull97, now I have time for you |
| 15:22 |
PilzAdam |
what doesnt work? |
| 15:22 |
dafull97 |
the lua code returns error |
| 15:22 |
diemartin |
this is nice http://osrc.dfm.io/kaeza |
| 15:23 |
dafull97 |
i will put on pastebin |
| 15:24 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, new sig link: http://www.homemade-gifts-made-easy.com/images/funny-warning-signs-stupid-questions-160-160.gif |
| 15:24 |
dafull97 |
http://pastebin.com/nj09SmeD |
| 15:25 |
dafull97 |
PhilzAdam: ^^ |
| 15:25 |
dafull97 |
be back in a few |
| 15:25 |
diemartin |
just dafuq Logos |
| 15:25 |
diemartin |
+is |
| 15:26 |
PilzAdam |
dafull97, whoops, thats a typo; its register, not reigister |
| 15:26 |
PilzAdam |
diemartin, textures, I guess |
| 15:26 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, I might use that as an avater ;-) |
| 15:27 |
diemartin |
> avater |
| 15:27 |
PilzAdam |
today: typo day! |
| 15:27 |
Jordach |
plol |
| 15:27 |
Jordach |
!op |
| 15:28 |
|
Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released; 0.4.8 will be released soonâ„¢ | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | Today's event: TYPO ADY! | Don't ask about asking questions. |
| 15:28 |
* Jordach |
giggles |
| 15:28 |
sfan5 |
heh |
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sfan5 |
"It seems—from their activity streams—that sfan5 and celeron55 are probably friends or at least virtual friends. " http://osrc.dfm.io/sfan5 |
| 15:29 |
PilzAdam |
seems like everyone is friends with celeron55 |
| 15:30 |
sfan5 |
yeah |
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| 15:34 |
Jordach |
...who isnt |
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| 15:34 |
sfan5 |
plol |
| 15:35 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: Transparency isn't working with the Sam II model. Is there a way to fix it or do you have a different model for blender renders? |
| 15:35 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, umm |
| 15:35 |
Jordach |
what are you doing exactly |
| 15:35 |
kahrl |
Linus seems to speak only one programming language: C. Maybe it's about time for Linus to branch out a bit. |
| 15:35 |
Jordach |
eg blender |
| 15:35 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: Making a render with my skin. |
| 15:36 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, throw me the skin then |
| 15:36 |
* Jordach |
takes about 5 mins |
| 15:36 |
Jordach |
anything specific (pose?) |
| 15:36 |
ShadowNinja |
Isn't there a way for me to do it myself? |
| 15:36 |
PilzAdam |
lol, "Linus is an epic sysadmin (one of the top 7% most active C users)" Im under the 4% of most active |
| 15:37 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, subdivide the hat layer and remove faces that are alpha in game |
| 15:37 |
Jordach |
eg (delete the black ones) |
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| 15:39 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: Thanks, done. |
| 15:39 |
Jordach |
so the dubdivisions should be like this: http://i.imgur.com/z7hbFuj.png |
| 15:39 |
Jordach |
sub* |
| 15:40 |
diemartin |
tyop yad! \.D/ |
| 15:40 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, result http://i.imgur.com/SEH3NuH.png |
| 15:41 |
Jordach |
then just change the texture of the player's body (in the textures pane to the right) |
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* Jordach |
thinks OpenSpades |
| 15:42 |
Jordach |
to ShadowNinja's |
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| 15:43 |
* sfan5 |
thinks porting Minetest |
| 15:43 |
sfan5 |
to Android's |
| 15:44 |
sfan5 |
:P |
| 15:47 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, do you really want to continue to port Minetest to phones? |
| 15:47 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 15:47 |
PilzAdam |
I mean, you would be the only dev who can support it, so everyone will redirect all support questions to you |
| 15:48 |
sfan5 |
I don't think there will be that many phone-specific support questions |
| 15:51 |
Jordach |
hey Evergreen |
| 15:51 |
Evergreen |
Hi |
| 15:52 |
Evergreen |
Why are you "@Jordach"? |
| 15:52 |
Jordach |
that better |
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harrison |
sfan5: don't listen to the h8rs they are only jealous of you |
| 15:54 |
sfan5 |
heh |
| 15:54 |
harrison |
port away i say |
| 15:55 |
harrison |
PilzAdam must have had a potion of irritability this morning |
| 15:55 |
* harrison |
suddenly jets away in a cloud of ink |
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ShadowNinja |
Jordach: Is there a way to make the rendered image use transparency within plender? |
| 16:01 |
* harrison |
flashes its chromatophores wryly |
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| 16:02 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, iirc, nope |
| 16:02 |
Jordach |
you'll just have to subdivide every damn hat layer |
| 16:02 |
Jordach |
(in fact that's how i make my hat layers) |
| 16:03 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: No, I mean can the rendered image have a transparent background, rather than the default grey. |
| 16:03 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, yes |
| 16:04 |
Jordach |
lemme try to remember |
| 16:07 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, see image options here: http://i.imgur.com/0FyPK2e.png |
| 16:07 |
Jordach |
notice RGBA is set for PNG |
| 16:07 |
Jordach |
and Sky is set to transparent |
| 16:07 |
Jordach |
(which gives a cube with a alpha bg) |
| 16:11 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: How do I set a transparent sky? |
| 16:11 |
Jordach |
you dont |
| 16:11 |
Jordach |
don't change the colour of the sky goddamit |
| 16:11 |
Jordach |
there are two settings in the render pane |
| 16:12 |
Jordach |
Under shading, change Alpha to "Transparent" then change the PNG mode from RGB to RGBA |
| 16:12 |
Jordach |
(RGBA = ALPHA CHANNEL.) |
| 16:12 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: Ah, thanks. |
| 16:19 |
Jordach |
thexyz, you really need to fix the forum's HTTPS cert |
| 16:19 |
PilzAdam |
there is nothing wrong with the certificate |
| 16:20 |
thexyz |
okay, let's see |
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thexyz |
Jordach: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=forum.minetest.net |
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| 16:21 |
MarkTwain |
Hello |
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| 16:21 |
Jordach |
thexyz, forums.minetest.net drops some strange issues on mobile devices |
| 16:21 |
thexyz |
wat i fix should? |
| 16:22 |
Jordach |
and most places with proxies do no allow damaged https |
| 16:22 |
thexyz |
this is untrue since it works on my Android smartphone and it's a mobile device |
| 16:22 |
Jordach |
thexyz, well my browser says it's broken, should you accept |
| 16:22 |
thexyz |
so be more specific |
| 16:22 |
thexyz |
"my browser" |
| 16:22 |
thexyz |
"places with proxies" |
| 16:22 |
thexyz |
"mobile devices" |
| 16:23 |
thexyz |
is not what I call being specific |
| 16:23 |
Jordach |
https://community.qualys.com/blogs/securitylabs/2013/03/19/rc4-in-tls-is-broken-now-what |
| 16:23 |
thexyz |
yes, I know that RC4 is broken, but that's not related to your issue |
| 16:24 |
thexyz |
the only issue could be SNI, okay, I could order additional IP for forum.minetest.net, that's not a problem |
| 16:24 |
thexyz |
but then faggo^Wpeople will complain it doesn't work with Hamachi because Hetzner probably will give me IP from 5.x.x.x subnet |
| 16:25 |
sfan5 |
hamachi now uses 25.0.0.0/8 |
| 16:25 |
thexyz |
okay, I'll order one additional IP then |
| 16:25 |
sfan5 |
:-/ |
| 16:26 |
sfan5 |
my android phone doesn't have enough space left for minetest |
| 16:26 |
Jordach |
awww |
| 16:27 |
thexyz |
sfan5: are you compiling minetest for android again? |
| 16:27 |
sfan5 |
well |
| 16:27 |
sfan5 |
I got irrlicht to wrok |
| 16:27 |
sfan5 |
*work |
| 16:27 |
sfan5 |
and now I got a libminetest.so that should work |
| 16:27 |
Jordach |
thexyz, according to my mobile device: cert not founmd |
| 16:27 |
sfan5 |
but I can't test it |
| 16:27 |
Jordach |
found* |
| 16:27 |
Jordach |
the subject is also unknown |
| 16:27 |
thexyz |
cert not what |
| 16:27 |
thexyz |
this is still unclear |
| 16:27 |
thexyz |
at least send a photo or something |
| 16:32 |
Jordach |
thexyz, http://imgur.com/a/1qrrO |
| 16:33 |
thexyz |
Minetest wikipedia page was deleted more than a year ago |
| 16:33 |
thexyz |
Jordach: what's the phone model? |
| 16:33 |
Jordach |
thexyz, Nintendo 3DS |
| 16:33 |
Jordach |
stock software as of latest rev. |
| 16:33 |
thexyz |
> hey ssl on your site doesn't work well with my microwave |
| 16:34 |
thexyz |
okay |
| 16:34 |
* Jordach |
thinks the 3DS checks in one place not multiple |
| 16:34 |
thexyz |
I'll put a red warning somewhere some day "Nintendo 3DS is not supported" |
| 16:34 |
Jordach |
thexyz, i can accept it and shits fine |
| 16:35 |
Jordach |
i do get cert issue date and expiry date |
| 16:35 |
Jordach |
(which for a non existant cert, is damn amazing) |
| 16:35 |
ShadowNinja |
PilzAdam: Can you please merge some minetest_game pulls like Sam II? Many of them are simple fixes that you won't need any approval for. |
| 16:35 |
thexyz |
that's why I say "not supported", you're on your own so don't complain |
| 16:35 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, you mean capes |
| 16:35 |
Jordach |
that includes the Sam II pull |
| 16:35 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: Sam III then, it includes Sam II. |
| 16:36 |
Jordach |
lololol |
| 16:36 |
ShadowNinja |
It would only be capse if Sam II was already merged. |
| 16:36 |
ShadowNinja |
capes* |
| 16:37 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, i added capes alongside Sam II, making it a double pull |
| 16:38 |
Menche |
the pull for better tiling grass is a definite improvement |
| 16:38 |
ShadowNinja |
Merge it, whatever it is. |
| 16:38 |
ShadowNinja |
I agree with Menche. |
| 16:38 |
Jordach |
btw: I am going to be making a testing server soon |
| 16:38 |
Menche |
and the improved gravel is too |
| 16:38 |
Jordach |
it includes MY animatics model (fitted to the games animations) |
| 16:41 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: ^ Can you? |
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| 16:41 |
Jordach |
these minetest_game pulls are waiting to be merged] |
| 16:41 |
Jordach |
-] |
| 16:41 |
sfan5 |
maybe |
| 16:42 |
Jordach |
you're as bas as PilzAdam when you say maybe |
| 16:44 |
Jordach |
!up 81.153.28.202 |
| 16:44 |
MinetestBot |
81.153.28.202:30000 seems to be down |
| 16:44 |
Jordach |
cmon MinetestBot, get it right |
| 16:45 |
* harrison |
is easily confused by modern DVCS s |
| 16:45 |
* harrison |
suddenly jets away in a cloud of ink |
| 16:46 |
Jordach |
!up 81.153.28.202 |
| 16:46 |
MinetestBot |
81.153.28.202:30000 seems to be down |
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| 16:47 |
MinetestBot |
blackha.wk:30000 seems to be down |
| 16:47 |
Jordach |
if anyone wants to give that IP a go, it is running sfan5's and nore's MG |
| 16:48 |
Jordach |
sfan5, attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'z' (a nil value) |
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| 17:02 |
DanDuncombe |
WHat is the function to print something to chat? |
| 17:03 |
DanDuncombe |
Never mind |
| 17:03 |
Jordach |
plo |
| 17:03 |
Jordach |
plol* |
| 17:04 |
thexyz |
!dev chat_send_all |
| 17:04 |
thexyz |
okay |
| 17:04 |
MinetestBot |
Hey john_minetest. |
| 17:05 |
ShadowNinja |
john_minetest: Implemented only in ShadowBot. |
| 17:06 |
ShadowNinja |
~rtfm |
| 17:06 |
ShadowBot |
Read the friendly manual. See http://dev.minetest.net, http://git.io/olBD2w, and http://git.io/5COZ7A. |
| 17:06 |
Menche |
why do we need both? |
| 17:06 |
Jordach |
sup MinetestBot |
| 17:07 |
Jordach |
no? |
| 17:07 |
thexyz |
because one is not enough |
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| 17:08 |
thexyz |
~help |
| 17:08 |
DanDuncombe |
What is wrong with this? http://pastebin.com/CtwxusWV |
| 17:08 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: which line? |
| 17:09 |
sfan5 |
john_minetest: goddamnit yes |
| 17:09 |
Jordach |
line 2 apparently |
| 17:09 |
thexyz |
DanDuncombe: last ) on the first line |
| 17:09 |
DanDuncombe |
Thanks |
| 17:09 |
thexyz |
also, everything else |
| 17:09 |
Menche |
that ) should be on the last line, enclosing the entire function definition |
| 17:09 |
DanDuncombe |
Nope,still throws error |
| 17:09 |
DanDuncombe |
Never mind,it works now |
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| 17:10 |
thexyz |
ShadowNinja: how do I get list of commands your bot supports? |
| 17:10 |
sfan5 |
ShadowBot: help |
| 17:10 |
GNADev|zRokh |
ih thexyz |
| 17:10 |
sfan5 |
:-/ |
| 17:10 |
GNADev|zRokh |
ym mane is ton sfan5 |
| 17:10 |
GNADev|zRokh |
:P |
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sfan5 |
thexyz: /msg ShadowBot help |
| 17:10 |
DanDuncombe |
How would I get the player's location? |
| 17:11 |
thexyz |
sfan5: hey, I'm not that stupid |
| 17:11 |
DanDuncombe |
So it is like: Dan died at 123,2,124 |
| 17:11 |
sfan5 |
no? :P |
| 17:11 |
GNADev|zRokh |
hey, sfan5, could this idea work: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=112170#p112170 |
| 17:11 |
thexyz |
sfan5: you better not think everyone is stupid and test things before saying they work |
| 17:11 |
GNADev|zRokh |
its an idea how to make a hand texture for every player |
| 17:11 |
GNADev|zRokh |
thexyz, what are you talking about? what did i miss? |
| 17:11 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: I did test it but... |
| 17:12 |
thexyz |
sfan5: this bot is not really friendly/helpful https://gist.github.com/xyzz/0d3a5bf6a5bcd3e9bd3a |
| 17:12 |
GNADev|zRokh |
thexyz, sfan5 is not answering, i thing he's sleeping... check this idea: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=112170#p112170 |
| 17:13 |
DanDuncombe |
That is,what is the function to get the player location, ie what goes after local place = |
| 17:13 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Dan, wait |
| 17:13 |
thexyz |
GNADev|zRokh: you can't do that |
| 17:13 |
GNADev|zRokh |
why? |
| 17:14 |
thexyz |
because every player gets the same hand definition |
| 17:14 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: try "list" and "list <Plugin name>", yes the ignoring thing is annyoing |
| 17:14 |
sfan5 |
annoying* |
| 17:14 |
GNADev|zRokh |
PilzAdam did some thing where players can have different textures... so why cant the hand do the same? |
| 17:14 |
CraigyDavi |
Would anyone know where I could download this version of minetest: 0.4.7 minetest v6. Would I just download the developing version off github? |
| 17:14 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Dan, i can't see anything that would do that in the api.... |
| 17:14 |
GNADev|zRokh |
sorry |
| 17:15 |
thexyz |
GNADev|zRokh: because of how it's implemented |
| 17:15 |
GNADev|zRokh |
oh... well is it possible via C++ tweaking? |
| 17:15 |
sfan5 |
CraigyDavi: that looks live a serverlist entry, it's format is like this: <version> <game name> <mapgen>; this means it is just 0.4.7 |
| 17:15 |
sfan5 |
GNADev|zRokh: if you would change the engine code everything is possible |
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| 17:15 |
GNADev|zRokh |
no, no, no... |
| 17:15 |
CraigyDavi |
oh okay so I can't download minetest-dev from anywhere? |
| 17:15 |
GNADev|zRokh |
there is a limit |
| 17:16 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Your Imagination |
| 17:16 |
GNADev|zRokh |
and skills, of course :D |
| 17:16 |
sfan5 |
CraigyDavi: what is "minetest-dev" |
| 17:16 |
nanomo |
PilzAdam: im back |
| 17:16 |
sfan5 |
GNADev|zRokh: you get what I wanted to tell you.. |
| 17:16 |
CraigyDavi |
like on some servers they say they are running minetest 0.4.7-dev |
| 17:16 |
GNADev|zRokh |
yeah, pretty much... but hey, sfan5, could you teach me basic c++? |
| 17:16 |
GNADev|zRokh |
in /query |
| 17:17 |
sfan5 |
GNADev|zRokh: what about asking google first? |
| 17:17 |
GNADev|zRokh |
ok :P |
| 17:17 |
GNADev|zRokh |
is MTBot ignoring me? |
| 17:17 |
sfan5 |
dunno |
| 17:17 |
GNADev|zRokh |
nope |
| 17:17 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i pm'd it |
| 17:17 |
GNADev|zRokh |
him* |
| 17:17 |
sfan5 |
john_minetest: I currently can't add the commands because my VPS is unstable |
| 17:17 |
sfan5 |
her* |
| 17:17 |
diemartin |
her* |
| 17:18 |
* sfan5 |
was faster |
| 17:18 |
nanomo |
guys im creating a minetest server in windows 2003, after starting the mintest.exe only shows a cmd screen and close it at a second |
| 17:18 |
thexyz |
okay, we have no "remind" command |
| 17:18 |
diemartin |
D: |
| 17:18 |
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| 17:18 |
diemartin |
hey CraigyDavi |
| 17:18 |
thexyz |
but we have those crc32, b64 and other VERY USEFUL stuff |
| 17:18 |
thexyz |
how nice is that |
| 17:19 |
GNADev|zRokh |
namino |
| 17:19 |
sfan5 |
b64 may actually be useful |
| 17:19 |
GNADev|zRokh |
lets query, i know whats the problem |
| 17:19 |
thexyz |
no it is not |
| 17:19 |
CraigyDavi |
hey diemartin |
| 17:19 |
sfan5 |
what is !remind supposed to do? |
| 17:20 |
GNADev|zRokh |
nanomo, ill pm you |
| 17:20 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i know whats the prob. |
| 17:20 |
sfan5 |
GNADev|zRokh: why would you want to pm him/her? |
| 17:20 |
sfan5 |
don't you want us to see the solution? |
| 17:20 |
GNADev|zRokh |
because (s)he wants to know why the server doesnt start |
| 17:20 |
diemartin |
CraigyDavi, just download one of the latest Win builds (BlockMen, sfan, Pilz Adam) |
| 17:20 |
GNADev|zRokh |
and i have had a server :P |
| 17:21 |
sfan5 |
that is not a reason for talking private about the problem |
| 17:21 |
thexyz |
sfan5: remind someone to do something, so that when that someone enters IRC (and maybe says something) he's getting spammed with those reminders |
| 17:21 |
thexyz |
very useful |
| 17:21 |
thexyz |
could be called "tell" as well |
| 17:21 |
sfan5 |
nanomo: you need to start the server with parameters like "--world C:\path\to\your\world\" |
| 17:21 |
diemartin |
thexyz, memoserv? |
| 17:21 |
GNADev|zRokh |
sfan5, >:O |
| 17:21 |
CraigyDavi |
diemartin: okay I will do. Would they work well on x64 windows 8 ? which one would be best? |
| 17:21 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: indeed--- the default phenny bot has tell.py |
| 17:21 |
GNADev|zRokh |
WTF?! |
| 17:22 |
thexyz |
for example, "~remind iqualfragile mt mod database is broken" |
| 17:22 |
sfan5 |
^ heh |
| 17:22 |
GNADev|zRokh |
--remind GNADev|zRokh asdf |
| 17:22 |
GNADev|zRokh |
what does it do? |
| 17:22 |
nanomo |
guys im creating a minetest server in windows 2003, after starting the mintest.exe only shows a cmd screen and close it at a second |
| 17:22 |
thexyz |
diemartin: no one is going to notice memoserv notification |
| 17:22 |
thexyz |
also, don't want to depend on freenode |
| 17:22 |
sfan5 |
CraigyDavi: yes, 32bit builds (like mine) work on 64bit |
| 17:22 |
GNADev|zRokh |
nanomo, check your PM |
| 17:22 |
sfan5 |
nanomo: you need to start the server with parameters like "--world C:\path\to\your\world\" |
| 17:22 |
GNADev|zRokh |
im helping |
| 17:22 |
DanDuncombe |
Okay, what is wrong with this? Gives the starter kit, but doesn't say the chat message |
| 17:22 |
thexyz |
because it sucks =( |
| 17:22 |
diemartin |
thexyz, k |
| 17:23 |
sfan5 |
n4x: also don't repeat your question so often |
| 17:23 |
GNADev|zRokh |
SFAN5, I WAS TRYING TO HELP HIM, thank you very much... >:O |
| 17:23 |
sfan5 |
oops |
| 17:23 |
sfan5 |
nanomo: also don't repeat your question so often |
| 17:23 |
thexyz |
also, I love how freenode while having "free" in its name is not actually "free" |
| 17:23 |
DanDuncombe |
http://pastebin.com/VSfZBEYz |
| 17:23 |
DanDuncombe |
IDK What I did wrong |
| 17:23 |
sfan5 |
GNADev|zRokh: oh didn't notice that you are able to tell me whether to help people or not |
| 17:24 |
GNADev|zRokh |
thexyz, free nodes... :D |
| 17:24 |
sfan5 |
DanDuncombe: compare that to the code of the give_initial_stuff mod |
| 17:24 |
diemartin |
> local playernew = player:get_player_name (pos) |
| 17:24 |
CraigyDavi |
would there be any build which has server support like fess's build's which had a server tab on main menu. |
| 17:24 |
DanDuncombe |
The give initial_stuff mod doesn't have the chat message thing |
| 17:25 |
sfan5 |
CraigyDavi: all recent builds have a "server" tab |
| 17:25 |
CraigyDavi |
great! |
| 17:26 |
sfan5 |
DanDuncombe: what does you code do step by step? (I mean like assigning variables and calling functions not, "It gives stuff to the player") |
| 17:26 |
sfan5 |
s/not,/,not/ |
| 17:26 |
DanDuncombe |
It is just what I pastebinned |
| 17:26 |
CraigyDavi |
If I were to use a specific build as a server would the person playing in it have to have the same one or something? |
| 17:27 |
sfan5 |
DanDuncombe: explain to me what line 2 does and what line 4 does |
| 17:27 |
DanDuncombe |
It gets the playername,sends the chat message including it, then adds stuff to inventory of the player |
| 17:27 |
sfan5 |
CraigyDavi: no |
| 17:28 |
sfan5 |
DanDuncombe: just line 2 and line 4 on the level of lua (e.g. calls function "foobar", assigns 42 to variable named "kitten") |
| 17:29 |
DanDuncombe |
Line 2 gets the player name, line 4 gives them a stone pick |
| 17:29 |
sfan5 |
"on the level of lua" |
| 17:29 |
sfan5 |
do you understand? |
| 17:29 |
sfan5 |
I even gave examples |
| 17:29 |
CraigyDavi |
thanks |
| 17:29 |
sfan5 |
DanDuncombe: try again |
| 17:29 |
DanDuncombe |
No idea, I am confused |
| 17:30 |
GNADev|zRokh |
sfan5, nanomo needs ur help |
| 17:30 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i cant help him |
| 17:30 |
sfan5 |
Line 2 assigns the player object to a variable named "playernew"; Line 4 calls the get_inventory function of the "player" variable and [...] |
| 17:30 |
sfan5 |
DanDuncombe: ^ do you see it? |
| 17:30 |
nanomo |
thanks GNADev|zRokh |
| 17:30 |
DanDuncombe |
I am confused |
| 17:30 |
GNADev|zRokh |
np :P |
| 17:31 |
sfan5 |
DanDuncombe: read that 2 sentences |
| 17:31 |
sfan5 |
read them |
| 17:31 |
DanDuncombe |
Something about foobar and 42 kittens |
| 17:31 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 17:31 |
sfan5 |
<sfan5> Line 2 assigns the player object to a variable named "playernew"; Line 4 calls the get_inventory function of the "player" variable and [...] |
| 17:31 |
sfan5 |
that |
| 17:31 |
sfan5 |
only that |
| 17:31 |
sfan5 |
(I'm trying to help you w/o just telling you the solution) |
| 17:32 |
DanDuncombe |
Well, I am really confused now |
| 17:32 |
sfan5 |
just read the 2 sentences |
| 17:32 |
DanDuncombe |
Seriously, IDK what I am supposed to gain from them |
| 17:32 |
nanomo |
sfan5: i had no world folder i downloaded the files from http://minetest.ru/builds/minetest-0.4.7.zip then try to open /bin/minetest.exe and a cmd windows it's displayer for a second and after it closes |
| 17:32 |
sfan5 |
you didn't read them closely |
| 17:33 |
sfan5 |
I'll try a more obivous thing |
| 17:33 |
DanDuncombe |
oK |
| 17:33 |
DanDuncombe |
Obivous? |
| 17:33 |
sfan5 |
Line 2 assigns the variable "playernew"; Line 4 uses the variable "player" |
| 17:33 |
sfan5 |
obvious* |
| 17:33 |
sfan5 |
read that |
| 17:33 |
DanDuncombe |
Really? |
| 17:33 |
sfan5 |
nanomo: are you trying to make a server? |
| 17:33 |
DanDuncombe |
Line 4 has nothing to do with the local value though |
| 17:34 |
DanDuncombe |
It works without it, it is the chat message thatwon't send |
| 17:34 |
nanomo |
sfan5: yes, i have onlye a vps with windows 2003 to try |
| 17:34 |
sfan5 |
nanomo: you need to use minetestserver.exe |
| 17:35 |
sfan5 |
DanDuncombe: wait... "" player:get_player_name (pos) "" what does this do? |
| 17:35 |
DanDuncombe |
Gets the player name for the variable playernew |
| 17:35 |
nanomo |
that exe isn't in the files fom http://minetest.ru/builds/minetest-0.4.7.zip where can i download the server files? |
| 17:35 |
sfan5 |
what does "pos" do? |
| 17:35 |
DanDuncombe |
IDK |
| 17:35 |
DanDuncombe |
Gets the pos? |
| 17:35 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 17:36 |
sfan5 |
it tries to use the pos var. which is not there |
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| 17:36 |
DanDuncombe |
Ok |
| 17:36 |
DanDuncombe |
So what do I do? |
| 17:36 |
rubenwardy |
adding "*" to the ignore list is fun! |
| 17:36 |
sfan5 |
:get_player_name doesn't need an arg |
| 17:36 |
sfan5 |
nanomo: .. |
| 17:36 |
sfan5 |
try "minetest.exe --server" |
| 17:36 |
rubenwardy |
GNADev|zRokh: type /ignore * |
| 17:36 |
nanomo |
sfan5: i do that and then nothing happens |
| 17:36 |
GNADev|zRokh |
why? |
| 17:37 |
rubenwardy |
It improves your irc experience |
| 17:37 |
DanDuncombe |
So minetest.chat_send_all("Giving "..player:get_player_name (pos).. " starter kit!") |
| 17:37 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i know what /ignore and * (wildcard) does... |
| 17:37 |
GNADev|zRokh |
* == all |
| 17:37 |
GNADev|zRokh |
and /ignore == ignore |
| 17:37 |
sfan5 |
nanomo: you need to do it like this "minetest.exe --server --world <directory of your world>" |
| 17:37 |
GNADev|zRokh |
thus i would ignore all :D |
| 17:38 |
sfan5 |
DanDuncombe: what does the "pos" do in that context? |
| 17:38 |
DanDuncombe |
IDK |
| 17:38 |
sfan5 |
please look up the docs of get_player_name() and tell me what arguments it needs |
| 17:38 |
nanomo |
sfan5: i do that too before GNADev|zRokh make me doit but i don't have any folder called world in the root of my files |
| 17:39 |
DanDuncombe |
Needs no arguments |
| 17:39 |
sfan5 |
nanomo: .. simply do "minetest.exe --server --world world" |
| 17:39 |
sfan5 |
DanDuncombe: so what do you do with the "pos" now? |
| 17:39 |
DanDuncombe |
Get rif of it |
| 17:39 |
sfan5 |
^ exactly |
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| 17:40 |
nanomo |
sfan5: nothing happens again |
| 17:40 |
DanDuncombe |
I still get no chat message |
| 17:41 |
sfan5 |
nanomo: what does "minetest.exe --help" do? |
| 17:42 |
sfan5 |
DanDuncombe: what code do you have now? |
| 17:42 |
nanomo |
sfan5: nothing :( C:\Documents and Settings\Administrador\Escritorio\nanomo-no-borrar\minetest-0.4 .7\minetest-0.4.7\bin>minetest.exe -help C:\Documents and Settings\Administrador\Escritorio\nanomo-no-borrar\minetest-0.4 .7\minetest-0.4.7\bin> |
| 17:42 |
nanomo |
sfan5: only returns the prompt |
| 17:43 |
sfan5 |
nanomo: not - but -- |
| 17:43 |
nanomo |
sfan5: yes i tried both just pasted the last i tried :D |
| 17:43 |
DanDuncombe |
http://pastebin.com/PGa8CpRZ |
| 17:43 |
sfan5 |
what happens if you just run "minetest.exe" |
| 17:44 |
GNADev|zRokh |
it doesnt start |
| 17:44 |
GNADev|zRokh |
opens then closes |
| 17:44 |
sfan5 |
DanDuncombe: didn't you want to get rid of "pos" ? |
| 17:44 |
nanomo |
if i run with double click only shows a cmd and close that windows and nothing else |
| 17:44 |
DanDuncombe |
Oh yeah, sorry, I did, but it still didn't work |
| 17:44 |
nanomo |
if i run alone from cmd nothing its showed |
| 17:44 |
* Jordach |
bets five bucks that MSVC++ 2010 DIST is missing |
| 17:45 |
sfan5 |
nanomo: something is wrong with your windows system |
| 17:45 |
nanomo |
will check thanks Jordach |
| 17:45 |
sfan5 |
DanDuncombe: look up every part in the docs and see if everything is right |
| 17:45 |
DanDuncombe |
Ok |
| 17:48 |
GNADev|zRokh |
question: is it possible to replace blocks from * to default:air and in a 5 block radius? |
| 17:49 |
rubenwardy |
Have you looked in the FAQ? |
| 17:50 |
rubenwardy |
The bit after minetest not responding? |
| 17:50 |
* Jordach |
waits 2 years |
| 17:50 |
rubenwardy |
!j |
| 17:50 |
Jordach |
MicroTorrent is saying 2d 4h on a 90mb torrent |
| 17:50 |
nanomo |
sfan5: Jordach installed VC++ 2010 and nothing happens :(, it's a windows 2003 with other games installed like killing floor server and its working, what other requirments are for minetest? |
| 17:50 |
rubenwardy |
"If it stops working before the main window even opens, and there are no error messages in debug.txt, then try restarting your computer. |
| 17:50 |
rubenwardy |
(sometimes it crashes with a 0x00005 error, which is caused by windows updates.)" |
| 17:51 |
nanomo |
there is no crash onlye the cmd its closed the gui never is showed |
| 17:51 |
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* dafull97 |
has arrived |
| 17:51 |
sfan5 |
time to clone the whole ducking linux source tree again |
| 17:51 |
rubenwardy |
Windows? |
| 17:51 |
nanomo |
there is no debug.txt anywhere |
| 17:51 |
nanomo |
yes, 2003 |
| 17:52 |
dafull97 |
nanomo, what is the problem? |
| 17:52 |
dafull97 |
i just setup my own server and got help ALOT |
| 17:52 |
dafull97 |
so i could help you |
| 17:54 |
nanomo |
dafull97: thanks, i had a win2003 and after i tried to start minetest.exe nothing happens onlye a cmd splash for a second if i double clic in minetest.exe, the sames files are working on my windows7 laptop, i installed VC++2010 with the same results |
| 17:54 |
DanDuncombe |
What would I put in the gap to make the player die? http://pastebin.com/W2x1ScLF |
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| 17:55 |
dafull97 |
ok, have you uninstalled and reinstalled? |
| 17:56 |
nanomo |
im running the stand alone files http://minetest.ru/builds/minetest-0.4.7.zip |
| 17:56 |
* VanessaE |
is back (yay.) |
| 17:56 |
* dafull97 |
Is gald VanessaE is back =D |
| 17:56 |
dafull97 |
opps, Glad |
| 17:56 |
dafull97 |
haha |
| 17:57 |
dafull97 |
Do you know where you extracted the files? |
| 17:57 |
DanDuncombe |
VanessaE, do you know what to put in the gap to kill the player? |
| 17:57 |
VanessaE |
in what gap? |
| 17:57 |
VanessaE |
oh |
| 17:57 |
VanessaE |
eh, not really |
| 17:57 |
VanessaE |
just reduce their health by 20, that'll kill them |
| 17:57 |
nanomo |
dafull97: if i install from setup i have the same results |
| 17:58 |
DanDuncombe |
VanessaE, what do I put in the gap to reduce their health by 20? |
| 17:58 |
dafull97 |
nanomo: Where did you extract the zip? |
| 17:58 |
VanessaE |
I don't know off the top of my head |
| 17:59 |
nanomo |
c:\Minetest |
| 18:00 |
proller |
п ы |
| 18:00 |
proller |
srry |
| 18:00 |
GNADev|zRokh |
whats poe? |
| 18:00 |
dafull97 |
delete the whole minetest file and re unzip and try it |
| 18:00 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i know russian :D |
| 18:00 |
GNADev|zRokh |
п ы == p õ |
| 18:01 |
dafull97 |
How are you VanessaE? |
| 18:02 |
VanessaE |
tired |
| 18:02 |
proller |
its my "g u" shortcut |
| 18:02 |
dafull97 |
oh, that sucks |
| 18:02 |
proller |
with wrong layout and wrong window |
| 18:02 |
nanomo |
i do that, and eveninstalled from the setup, get the same results |
| 18:02 |
dafull97 |
is PilzAdam in chat? |
| 18:03 |
dafull97 |
nanomo, do you have TeamViewer? |
| 18:03 |
nanomo |
no i have remote desktop |
| 18:03 |
dafull97 |
could i connect to you? be alot easier... then you can watch how to fix for next tiem |
| 18:03 |
dafull97 |
time* |
| 18:05 |
nanomo |
dafull97: check yout PM |
| 18:05 |
dafull97 |
i c |
| 18:05 |
* GNADev|zRokh |
is installing google chrome on linux |
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| 18:10 |
DanDuncombe |
Is VanessaE still here? |
| 18:10 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 18:10 |
VanessaE |
I'm THERE ------------------------> |
| 18:10 |
DanDuncombe |
Did you see the PM thingy? |
| 18:10 |
DanDuncombe |
ABout a mod request for your server? On IRC I mean |
| 18:11 |
VanessaE |
what is it> |
| 18:11 |
DanDuncombe |
It is lightweight and doesn't add any nodes or tools or entities |
| 18:11 |
VanessaE |
I see the msg |
| 18:11 |
DanDuncombe |
IT just says playername has died! |
| 18:11 |
DanDuncombe |
Substituting playername for the actual player name |
| 18:12 |
VanessaE |
ahh |
| 18:12 |
DanDuncombe |
I spent all of 5 minutes making it |
| 18:12 |
DanDuncombe |
Is too macabre to know when someone dies on the server? |
| 18:13 |
DanDuncombe |
I am not spamming either |
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| 18:13 |
VanessaE |
actually no, that's a good idea |
| 18:13 |
DanDuncombe |
Thanks, I don't think it already does it |
| 18:13 |
VanessaE |
In fact if you wanna take it one step further, you might try to detect if a player died by falling, and print something cute like "AIIIIIIII!!!!! xxxxx fell to his/her death." |
| 18:14 |
VanessaE |
AIIIIEE! rather |
| 18:14 |
thefamilygrog66 |
^^^ Needs more profanity. |
| 18:14 |
DanDuncombe |
IDK how I would do that, if even possible |
| 18:14 |
GNADev|zRokh |
VanessaE, define node boxes... its not for me, its for a friends but idk how to describe it |
| 18:15 |
VanessaE |
can you put it on github plz? or any git side at all, I don't care which... so my automated mod update script can catch it |
| 18:15 |
DanDuncombe |
How about: "OMFG! <playername> just died! OMG! They are DEAD! ARRRGH!" |
| 18:15 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 18:15 |
VanessaE |
no :) |
| 18:15 |
DanDuncombe |
I will keep it on dropbox because I am not gonna make any updates |
| 18:15 |
thefamilygrog66 |
boxes which define a shape of a node |
| 18:15 |
DanDuncombe |
I will just leave it |
| 18:16 |
DanDuncombe |
Nodebox: A table of numbers which define a special rectangle-based shape for custom block shapes. |
| 18:16 |
DanDuncombe |
So basically blender but with rectangles |
| 18:17 |
DanDuncombe |
afk |
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thefamilygrog66 |
BEANS! https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=112175#p112175 |
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| 18:22 |
dafull97 |
nanomo: Check PM |
| 18:24 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Is it just me, or is it ironic that github is way easier to use with windows? |
| 18:25 |
GNADev|zRokh |
hey, who knows artur99? |
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| 18:32 |
Jordach |
nobody |
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| 18:34 |
zat |
Some core devel here? |
| 18:34 |
Jordach |
thefamilygrog66, use 16px textures you bastard |
| 18:35 |
* Jordach |
is tired of mods supplying non 16x textures |
| 18:35 |
thefamilygrog66 |
wah wah |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
and |
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| 18:35 |
Jordach |
i just find it almost IMPOSSIBLE TO TEXTURE MODS that USE IT |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
^ DanDuncombe |
| 18:37 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Jordach, do you mean you find it hard to write your own textures for other folks' mods that are 64x? I'm a bit confused. |
| 18:38 |
Jordach |
thefamilygrog66, it's when i'm working on a pure 16x pack, shit just gets out of hand |
| 18:38 |
Jordach |
do i have to write something like android developer guidelines for texturing |
| 18:38 |
thefamilygrog66 |
ahh, 16x OCD, I get it |
| 18:39 |
Jordach |
here's a handy hint: 64px textures can be overlaid on a 16px, but not the other way around |
| 18:39 |
Jordach |
(eg, you can make the asphalt all 16x and have the road markings 64) |
| 18:39 |
Jordach |
by just using the ore overlay method |
| 18:39 |
thefamilygrog66 |
btw, this is the first mod I've made which isn't 16px |
| 18:39 |
DanDuncombe |
texture.png^annuva_texture.png |
| 18:40 |
VanessaE |
don't the larger textures get cropped? |
| 18:40 |
GNADev|zRokh |
who knows why he likes trains? |
| 18:40 |
DanDuncombe |
Yes, they get weirdified |
| 18:40 |
GNADev|zRokh |
because his uncle raped him in one |
| 18:40 |
GNADev|zRokh |
asdfmovie2 :D |
| 18:41 |
DanDuncombe |
So VanessaE, your are gonna install the death_name mod? |
| 18:41 |
thefamilygrog66 |
how's the non sequiturs treating ya? |
| 18:41 |
VanessaE |
did you get where I suggested it go on github or similar? |
| 18:41 |
DanDuncombe |
But I am not going to do any updates to it |
| 18:42 |
DanDuncombe |
And will delete it withing the week |
| 18:42 |
VanessaE |
why delete it? |
| 18:43 |
DanDuncombe |
Because I don't need it |
| 18:43 |
DanDuncombe |
afk |
| 18:47 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Russia fires the missles "AAHHH, MOTHERLAND!" |
| 18:47 |
DanDuncombe |
At where? |
| 18:47 |
GNADev|zRokh |
:S |
| 18:47 |
GNADev|zRokh |
idk |
| 18:48 |
GNADev|zRokh |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCpjgl2baLs |
| 18:48 |
GNADev|zRokh |
!title |
| 18:48 |
MinetestBot |
GNADev|zRokh: The End of the World - YouTube |
| 18:48 |
DanDuncombe |
At some place |
| 18:48 |
GNADev|zRokh |
WTF??^^ |
| 18:49 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Jordach, a 16px bean looks like shite. |
| 18:49 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Just saying. |
| 18:50 |
GNADev|zRokh |
California will break off of the US... to hang with Hawaii... Alaska can come too... |
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GNADev|zRokh |
My girlfriend's age is... 55 |
| 18:56 |
GNADev|zRokh |
My IQ is... 55 |
| 18:56 |
GNADev|zRokh |
xD |
| 18:57 |
Calinou |
so you're your girlfriend! |
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prestotron55 |
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Calinou |
hi prestotron55 :) |
| 18:57 |
Calinou |
good luck :P |
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prestotron55 |
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GNADev|zRokh |
Celeron55, prestotron55 :D |
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prestotron55 |
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GNADev|zRokh |
http://youtu.be/kFF3pVOHtoA?t=40s |
| 18:59 |
thefamilygrog66 |
!title |
| 18:59 |
MinetestBot |
thefamilygrog66: Schfifty Five (with MP3 ♫) - YouTube |
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prestotron55 |
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* thefamilygrog66 |
is making strictly 64px textures from now on |
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prestotron55 |
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proller |
noobing every minute. |
| 19:03 |
proller |
prestotron55, minute finished, you must write some shit here |
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prestotron55 |
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proller |
and what length of your... ? |
| 19:05 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Birds and the Bees (since you're gay, the Bees and the Bees) |
| 19:06 |
proller |
smart peoples newer write "I'm not stupid" |
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prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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* zat |
senses arrogance is getting dense over here |
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prestotron55 |
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* Calinou |
bites zat |
| 19:09 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Spyro = Spy + Pyro |
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prestotron55 |
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* prestotron55 |
doesn't know why an 11 year old picks on him.. |
| 19:09 |
Jordach |
OI proller prestotron55 IS ABOUT |
| 19:09 |
zat |
>///< |
| 19:09 |
Jordach |
</summon_the_devil> |
| 19:11 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Beer is good for you, Yes, it's true... <:3 |
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prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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Jordach |
bullshit |
| 19:11 |
* Jordach |
loves Orange Juice |
| 19:12 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Not as good as sex, but it's better then jail... |
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Jordach |
shut it GNADev|zRokh |
| 19:12 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:12 |
Jordach |
Vitamin C fights scurvy |
| 19:12 |
Evergreen |
Imo, age has little to do with maturity. Take 23 year old COD players for example, they aren't much better than an ignorant 11 year old |
| 19:12 |
* Jordach |
high fives Evergreen |
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prestotron55 |
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* prestotron55 |
needs to buy more servers for SocialSwim(site keeps going down) |
| 19:14 |
diemartin |
Jordach, you need more Vitamin C++ |
| 19:14 |
* diemartin |
hides |
| 19:14 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
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prestotron55 |
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GNADev|zRokh |
VanessaE, do you know what time it is? |
| 19:19 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Peanut Butter Jelly Time! |
| 19:20 |
* Jordach |
plols at diemartin |
| 19:20 |
Jordach |
GNADev|zRokh, shush |
| 19:21 |
GNADev|zRokh |
ok |
| 19:21 |
Jordach |
you get wayyy too offtopic |
| 19:21 |
Jordach |
err what |
| 19:22 |
Jordach |
> I was flying around in my U.F.O. |
| 19:22 |
Jordach |
how is that on the front page |
| 19:23 |
dafull97 |
PilzAdam: you here? |
| 19:24 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
| 19:24 |
dafull97 |
cool, so my problem i send you the link to pastebin, did you look at it? |
| 19:24 |
PilzAdam |
I already answered that, didnt Iß |
| 19:24 |
PilzAdam |
*? |
| 19:24 |
PilzAdam |
read the log |
| 19:25 |
diemartin |
aww crap |
| 19:25 |
diemartin |
!sfu kaeza |
| 19:25 |
MinetestBot |
kaeza Member 1,338 posts, registered on 2012-10-18 | id: 3279 |
| 19:25 |
diemartin |
close enough |
| 19:25 |
dafull97 |
ok, will do thanks |
| 19:25 |
dafull97 |
i had get off so sorry... |
| 19:28 |
dafull97 |
PilzAdam: read logs, thanks |
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prestotron55 |
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Jordach |
^ wtf |
| 19:28 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Jordach, do you love Boxxy? |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach, thats the result of not using your brain |
| 19:28 |
jojoa1997 |
what is |
| 19:29 |
Jordach |
and what's that related to minetest GNADev|zRokh |
| 19:29 |
Jordach |
you're making my internal kick that guy counter go nuts |
| 19:30 |
* PilzAdam |
votes for muting prestotron55 for advertising his shitty size |
| 19:30 |
PilzAdam |
*site |
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thefamilygrog66 |
hey 0gb |
| 19:30 |
us`0gb |
Hello, thefamilygrog66! |
| 19:31 |
* prestotron55 |
votes for PilzAdam to stop putting stops to something I havent done yet. |
| 19:31 |
* prestotron55 |
also votes for PilzAdam to stop advertising Minetest xD |
| 19:31 |
us`0gb |
What is he trying to stop you from doing? |
| 19:31 |
GNADev|zRokh |
who knows Boxxy? |
| 19:31 |
* Jordach |
wonders if !kick does multiple nicks |
| 19:32 |
prestotron55 |
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* dafull97 |
needs help with Farming Plus mod |
| 19:32 |
Jordach |
why do people have to reinvent the wheel |
| 19:32 |
us`0gb |
By the way, I saw your site was down yesterday. |
| 19:32 |
GNADev|zRokh |
LEEEROYYY Jenkins!!!!! |
| 19:32 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:32 |
* GNADev|zRokh |
discovered KnowYourMeme :D |
| 19:32 |
us`0gb |
Jordach, proprietary software is all about reinventing the wheel. |
| 19:32 |
Jordach |
shut it GNADev|zRokh |
| 19:33 |
Jordach |
ignore never cuts it with you |
| 19:33 |
* us`0gb |
doesn't have any memes to know |
| 19:33 |
Jordach |
i dont want other people to suffer |
| 19:33 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:34 |
* prestotron55 |
observed nobody plays Crevis |
| 19:34 |
Jordach |
> crevis |
| 19:35 |
Jordach |
> fail |
| 19:35 |
Jordach |
two words |
| 19:35 |
Jordach |
that mean the same thing |
| 19:35 |
* us`0gb |
fails to know what Crevis is |
| 19:35 |
prestotron55 |
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Jordach |
us`0gb, dont bother |
| 19:35 |
us`0gb |
Don't bother with what, Jordach? |
| 19:35 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:35 |
GNADev|zRokh |
hey, i have a question... why can't i use Torrents on linux while using a mobile connection? |
| 19:35 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:35 |
Jordach |
shut it GNADev|zRokh, take it to #<distro> |
| 19:36 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:36 |
us`0gb |
Meh. We ripped of a game that in turn ripped off another game. Why shouldn't someone build of of our game as well? |
| 19:36 |
Jordach |
and most Telco's don't like tethering |
| 19:36 |
Jordach |
not to mention they will terminate your phone contract / SIM |
| 19:36 |
dafull97 |
PilzAdam: Did you make the Farmingplus mod? |
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prestotron55 |
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| 19:36 |
us`0gb |
*off |
| 19:37 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
| 19:37 |
dafull97 |
can you helpme again? LOL |
| 19:38 |
dafull97 |
here is what output is, haha looks like a Code error, but i dont want to mess it up.... |
| 19:39 |
dafull97 |
http://pastebin.com/u8iNGs0i |
| 19:40 |
zat |
I am building minetest on ~/minetest-src, how would you make it output all files of a run-in-place config to, say, ~/minetest-out? |
| 19:44 |
Jordach |
copy-paste |
| 19:44 |
dafull97 |
PilzAdam: you there? |
| 19:45 |
zat |
Jordach: sure, I bet you copy-paste to your install prefix as well... or copy-paste when checkouting on git outside the source tree. |
| 19:45 |
PilzAdam |
dafull97, the code seems to be corrupted, redownload |
| 19:46 |
Jordach |
zat, i assumed you were meaning generating a /bin/ folder somewhere |
| 19:46 |
Jordach |
else* |
| 19:46 |
dafull97 |
ok, that sucks :( |
| 19:46 |
dafull97 |
what do i name to? |
| 19:46 |
zat |
Jordach: It is generating all directories somewhere else, the thing is that I want to automate it. |
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| 19:47 |
Jordach |
when building run_in_place=1 it builds in the same directory |
| 19:47 |
Jordach |
so minetest-src/bin/ |
| 19:47 |
Jordach |
is where the binary is produced |
| 19:47 |
zat |
The game is not made of a single binary. |
| 19:48 |
Jordach |
zat, if you move the binaries, you need to move the other stuff as well |
| 19:48 |
ShadowNinja |
thexyz: It won't respond to commands in this channel because MinetestBot is here. You will have to use a PM. The "list" command will list it's plugins and "list <plugin>" will list the commands that that plugin adds. |
| 19:48 |
prestotron55 |
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| 19:48 |
zat |
Jordach: that is precisely what I am asking about. |
| 19:48 |
Jordach |
zat, very possible with bash |
| 19:49 |
thexyz |
ShadowNinja: yes, I've figured it out already |
| 19:49 |
zat |
If you don’t know how to do it, please let someone else help, thanks. |
| 19:52 |
thexyz |
zat: it's not very clear what do you want but I'll assume you need something like "-DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/xyz/minetest/out" then "make install" |
| 19:53 |
zat |
That is precisely what I was looking for, you guessed right, thanks thexyz. |
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dafull97 |
PilzAdam, do i rename after download? |
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thefamilygrog66 |
dafull97, the folder should be named farmingplus, I believe |
| 20:10 |
dafull97 |
thefamilygrog66 thanks, being sure :) |
| 20:11 |
thefamilygrog66 |
no problem - github likes to add things like "-master" to the folder names, etc. |
| 20:11 |
dafull97 |
yes, i noticed... i hate that |
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* dafull97 |
dont like githubs folder names |
| 20:11 |
us`0gb |
I hate it too. |
| 20:12 |
dafull97 |
Lol, Agrees |
| 20:12 |
dafull97 |
so question |
| 20:12 |
us`0gb |
That's why I put the root directory of my projects within another directory, so GitHub won't rename the inner one. |
| 20:12 |
dafull97 |
could i run multiple minetest servers on a computer through different ports |
| 20:12 |
us`0gb |
Which of course makes it easier for some people and harder for others. |
| 20:13 |
us`0gb |
Yes you can. |
| 20:13 |
dafull97 |
us `0gb i noticed that \... liked that |
| 20:13 |
PilzAdam |
youtube keeps throwing 500s at me :-/ |
| 20:13 |
PilzAdam |
"Sorry, something went wrong. |
| 20:13 |
PilzAdam |
A team of highly trained monkeys has been dispatched to deal with this situation." |
| 20:14 |
dafull97 |
500s ? |
| 20:14 |
dafull97 |
ohh, haha |
| 20:14 |
us`0gb |
I used to run a server on two ports, but now my server is too slow to even run it on one port well ... |
| 20:14 |
us`0gb |
PilzAdam, the Google error messages are worse. They make Google look like a bunch of morons. |
| 20:15 |
dafull97 |
one mine i only had 6 clients connected and stayed stabe around 90's and 110's ms |
| 20:15 |
dafull97 |
stable* |
| 20:16 |
PilzAdam |
dafull97, you do realize that I dont talk about pings? |
| 20:16 |
us`0gb |
I'm trying to load the error page, but an .iso download is taking most of my bandwidth. |
| 20:16 |
dafull97 |
Pilz |
| 20:16 |
dafull97 |
PilzAdam, sorry... haha |
| 20:16 |
us`0gb |
<title>Error 404 (Not Found)!!1</title> |
| 20:17 |
us`0gb |
Really, Google? "!!1"? |
| 20:17 |
dafull97 |
PilzAdam, what you mean? |
| 20:17 |
us`0gb |
404. That’s an error. |
| 20:17 |
us`0gb |
The requested URL /errorpage was not found on this server. That’s all we know. |
| 20:17 |
us`0gb |
DOesn't that sound like morons are talking to you? |
| 20:18 |
* us`0gb |
is done ranting about Google's error pages for now |
| 20:18 |
thexyz |
I was surprised about !!1 too |
| 20:18 |
thexyz |
also, their support sucks |
| 20:18 |
us`0gb |
I wasn't just surprised. I was (and still am) disgusted by it. |
| 20:19 |
PilzAdam |
it seems like only the main page of youtube has gone crazy |
| 20:19 |
PilzAdam |
everything else works |
| 20:19 |
us`0gb |
Hmm. THat's odd. |
| 20:19 |
PilzAdam |
john_minetest, thanks for repeating my copy and paste |
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| 20:20 |
thexyz |
when I try to download .epub version of book I bought in google play it gives me 404 error; I've contacted support 22 days ago, there were some replies but still no solution |
| 20:20 |
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| 20:20 |
thexyz |
good |
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| 20:20 |
thexyz |
ShadowBot: you are useful |
| 20:20 |
thexyz |
I really want my DRM'ed book.. |
| 20:22 |
dafull97 |
PilzAdam, farmingplus still not work ;/ |
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| 20:22 |
us`0gb |
dafull97, what other plugins are you using? |
| 20:22 |
PilzAdam |
https://www.youtube.com/user/Gronkh/videos works |
| 20:23 |
PilzAdam |
Im just watching that... |
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| 20:25 |
dafull97 |
us `0gb: currency, firearms, jail, mobs, farmingplus, landrush, rulespop-up, map tools, tnt |
| 20:25 |
thefamilygrog66 |
why is there a github for windows, but not for linux? |
| 20:25 |
dafull97 |
Output: http://pastebin.com/w6Mpn5fG |
| 20:25 |
PilzAdam |
thefamilygrog66, what? |
| 20:25 |
PilzAdam |
dafull97, its farming_plus |
| 20:25 |
PilzAdam |
not farmingplus |
| 20:25 |
dafull97 |
that the prob? haha |
| 20:26 |
thefamilygrog66 |
there's software one can download to neatly upload folders to github.com for windows, but linux doesn't have that luxury |
| 20:26 |
us`0gb |
dafull97, check line /home/minetest/.minetest/mods/farmingplus/init.lua:171. |
| 20:26 |
PilzAdam |
thefamilygrog66, I dont know what you are talking about |
| 20:26 |
dafull97 |
want me count 171 lines? |
| 20:26 |
PilzAdam |
git works fine in Linux |
| 20:27 |
thefamilygrog66 |
it's all freaking command lines in linu |
| 20:27 |
thefamilygrog66 |
*linux |
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us`0gb |
dafull97, open the file in Gedit. Make Gedit count the lines for you. |
| 20:27 |
dafull97 |
oh, realy? |
| 20:27 |
PilzAdam |
who wants to use git with a gui? thats plain stupid |
| 20:27 |
dafull97 |
=D |
| 20:27 |
us`0gb |
thefamilygrog66, I agree. We need more graphical methods for GNU/Linux. |
| 20:28 |
us`0gb |
Who wants to use Git at all? |
| 20:28 |
us`0gb |
Git is a pain. |
| 20:28 |
thefamilygrog66 |
have you ever used it with a gui, PilzAdam? cause it's way easier, man |
| 20:29 |
PilzAdam |
there are GUI frontends for Linux too, but they all suck when it comes to branching or remotes |
| 20:29 |
PilzAdam |
us`0gb, git is powerful, but you have to learn it first |
| 20:30 |
thefamilygrog66 |
and yet (ironically) there's a perfectly fine gui for windows. wtf is up with that? |
| 20:30 |
Evergreen |
I think it is better to use the terminal, I like it better |
| 20:30 |
us`0gb |
It takes three lines to upload a project with git. THREE LINES! And you have to remember what they are. There's no excuse for at least one of those lines, and even if there was, it should only take one line to do something as simple as upload. |
| 20:30 |
PilzAdam |
thefamilygrog66, well, AFAIK RBA uses that, and when I tell him to do that in git then hes always like "you cant do that in the gui" |
| 20:30 |
PilzAdam |
s/that/something |
| 20:31 |
PilzAdam |
and there is a command for it that can be written in 5 seconds |
| 20:31 |
diemartin |
git-cola is good for most purposes |
| 20:32 |
zat |
thefamilygrog66: “linux†does not have those “featuresâ€, they make software with those, and there are GUIs for git for GNU/Linux'es, did you try searching? |
| 20:32 |
us`0gb |
There's no excuse for "git add -A". THat's all I'm saying. of COURSE you want to update the whole thing. If you didn't want to upload a particular file, you wouldn't have edited it. |
| 20:32 |
us`0gb |
*update |
| 20:33 |
PilzAdam |
us`0gb, you seriously cant imagine any situation where you want to add single files first? |
| 20:34 |
us`0gb |
Not any situation that isn't covered by branches. And if you don't want to update it all, THAT should be specified. Update it all should be the default. |
| 20:34 |
us`0gb |
Any file you DON'T want updated should be specified. |
| 20:35 |
thefamilygrog66 |
yep, I've searched. All I want to do is upload a repository to my account. I don't have a problem typing lines into console, but sometimes doing things visually is more intuitive and requires less thought. |
| 20:35 |
us`0gb |
Maybe I'm just not a real developer, so I don't see what you see, PilzAdam. |
| 20:35 |
zat |
thefamilygrog66: get qgit if you need something visual. |
| 20:36 |
us`0gb |
!g MInetest farming_plus |
| 20:36 |
MinetestBot |
us`0gb: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2787 |
| 20:36 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I guess all I'm saying is it would nice to just drag and drop is all. |
| 20:36 |
PilzAdam |
thefamilygrog66, CLI is generally faster than GUI |
| 20:37 |
us`0gb |
Or even a regular file upload option on GitHub. |
| 20:37 |
PilzAdam |
and AFAIK github has a CLI program for Linux that has all the features of the github GUI for windows |
| 20:37 |
thefamilygrog66 |
PilzAdam, not if one has to look around to figure out what to type it isn't |
| 20:37 |
us`0gb |
PilzAdam, the CLI would be faster if it didn't require three lines to do what should only take one line. |
| 20:38 |
PilzAdam |
us`0gb, aliases works, scripts work |
| 20:38 |
PilzAdam |
try writing scripts to work with a GUI program |
| 20:39 |
PilzAdam |
thefamilygrog66, searching the option you need in a manpage doesnt take longer than 30 seconds |
| 20:39 |
PilzAdam |
provided you understood the general structure of the program you are using |
| 20:40 |
us`0gb |
I'm not sure how aliases would help. Can they map to multiple commands? As for scripts, I've been meaning to write one to combine those commands. I need to take the time to learn how to take arguments in a sh script first though, the third commands needs arguments. |
| 20:40 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I just want to upload one folder. |
| 20:42 |
PilzAdam |
what you actually want is: add all files in a folder, commit, and push to a remote branch |
| 20:42 |
PilzAdam |
git is not useful for "uploading folders" |
| 20:42 |
us`0gb |
dafull97, I just checked PilzAdam's code. Renaming the plugin "farming_plus" should fix the error. |
| 20:42 |
zat |
You can always use Dropbox or similar :) |
| 20:43 |
PilzAdam |
us`0gb, s/plugin/mod/ |
| 20:43 |
thefamilygrog66 |
<PilzAdam> git is not useful for "uploading folders" - you got that right. |
| 20:45 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Whoa, the daily build is up to 8.9 MB now. |
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| 20:45 |
zat |
PilzAdam: Plugin is also valid. |
| 20:45 |
us`0gb |
PilzAdam, a "mod" is a modification or moderator, neither of which is what I mean. I mean a small application that does nothing on its own but enhances a bigger application. THe term "script" would apply, as it runs without compiling, and the term plugin would apply, as it enhances a bigger application, but the term "mod" does not fit what I'm talking about, and I do not intentionally misuse words. |
| 20:45 |
PilzAdam |
zat, no, we defined it to be called "mod" |
| 20:46 |
PilzAdam |
us`0gb, we have that thing defined to be called a "mod", live with that |
| 20:46 |
prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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us`0gb |
I live with it, and I do nt correct people who use the word "mod". I simply don't misuse the word myself and correct people who try to falsely correct me. |
| 20:47 |
us`0gb |
*not |
| 20:47 |
prestotron55 |
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| 20:47 |
us`0gb |
I don't mind. |
| 20:47 |
prestotron55 |
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| 20:47 |
PilzAdam |
us`0gb, you are confusing users when using different terms |
| 20:48 |
PilzAdam |
prestotron55, oh, I see, you cant see the difference between a normal conversation and picking on someone |
| 20:48 |
prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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| 20:49 |
us`0gb |
PilzAdam, the confusing part is when you use the incorrect term ("mod"). It makes people think that they actually ARE mods, when they aren't. |
| 20:50 |
us`0gb |
If people used the correct words all the time, the world would be a less confusing place. |
| 20:50 |
PilzAdam |
us`0gb, nobody else except you has ever complained about the incorrect usage, so I guess that argument is invalid |
| 20:50 |
thefamilygrog66 |
*appeal to majority |
| 20:50 |
PilzAdam |
the correct meaning is defined by majority of people, not by dictionaries |
| 20:50 |
prestotron55 |
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| 20:51 |
thefamilygrog66 |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum |
| 20:51 |
us`0gb |
I don't complain about your incorrect usage. I only complain about your trying to convince me to join in using the incorrect usage. THough I don't even complain about that, I only justify what I'm doing. A term being the popular one does not make it the right one. |
| 20:52 |
prestotron55 |
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| 20:53 |
us`0gb |
I do try to use proper grammar, spelling, and punctuation, yes. Though I'm bad at spelling. |
| 20:53 |
PilzAdam |
prestotron55, you are confused now because English doesnt distinguish between argument and argument |
| 20:53 |
prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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| 20:55 |
* us`0gb |
sometimes passes bad arguments to functions and methods by mistake |
| 20:56 |
PilzAdam |
it sucks that argument can be used synonym for debate |
| 20:57 |
diemartin |
English is weird |
| 20:57 |
us`0gb |
There are too many ambiguities in English and any other natural language ... |
| 20:59 |
us`0gb |
Silent letters, gender-based pronouns, ambiguous words .... Definitely weird. |
| 21:00 |
PilzAdam |
whats wrong with gender-based pronouns? |
| 21:01 |
prestotron55 |
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| 21:01 |
us`0gb |
Gender is arbitrary. It's like having hair color-based pronouns. Quite dumb. |
| 21:02 |
PilzAdam |
dont mix up biological gender with grammatical gender |
| 21:03 |
PilzAdam |
e.g. in german a chair is male |
| 21:03 |
us`0gb |
Gender isn't biological, sex is. |
| 21:03 |
us`0gb |
Gender is how you veiw yourself. |
| 21:03 |
us`0gb |
*view |
| 21:03 |
PilzAdam |
gender-based pronouns make it a lot easier to identify what you mean by it |
| 21:04 |
thefamilygrog66 |
how is a chair male? |
| 21:04 |
us`0gb |
Hair-color based pronouns would also make it easier, but even more easier, as there are more hair colors, so it would be more specific. |
| 21:04 |
PilzAdam |
thefamilygrog66, its defined to be male |
| 21:04 |
us`0gb |
thefamilygrog66, have you ever looked at the under side of a chair? |
| 21:05 |
thefamilygrog66 |
says who? |
| 21:05 |
PilzAdam |
because the majority of people in germany use male articles and pronouns |
| 21:05 |
thefamilygrog66 |
that makes zero sense |
| 21:05 |
PilzAdam |
thats how languages evolve, btw |
| 21:05 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I never understood that about French either |
| 21:05 |
us`0gb |
Anyway, when I said gender-based pronouns, I meant he/she/him/her/his/hers. |
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| 21:06 |
thefamilygrog66 |
a chair is sexless/genderless |
| 21:06 |
thefamilygrog66 |
it's an inanimate object |
| 21:06 |
us`0gb |
"Gender"-based for sexless objects is less dumb. |
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| 21:06 |
PilzAdam |
us`0gb, in german its used more consequent than in english, so it makes more sense |
| 21:06 |
PilzAdam |
thefamilygrog66, <PilzAdam> dont mix up biological gender with grammatical gender |
| 21:07 |
* prestotron55 |
is looking for cheap 10TB PC's that will run SocialSwim better than $24 hosting. |
| 21:07 |
us`0gb |
THough it shouldn't be called gender-based for sexless objects, if you ask me. |
| 21:07 |
thefamilygrog66 |
what is "grammatical gender" exactly? |
| 21:07 |
thefamilygrog66 |
aside from arbitrary? |
| 21:07 |
us`0gb |
It's a concept in non-English languages, thefamilygrog66. |
| 21:07 |
PilzAdam |
in german it defines what articles and pronouns have to be used |
| 21:08 |
thefamilygrog66 |
why? there is no reasoning |
| 21:08 |
us`0gb |
Basically, all nouns have a "gender". THey are either mail or female. |
| 21:08 |
PilzAdam |
there is no reason to call a sun a "sun" |
| 21:08 |
us`0gb |
It's arbitrary, yes. |
| 21:08 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I know, I learned that nonsense in French as well |
| 21:08 |
PilzAdam |
language generally is arbitrary |
| 21:08 |
us`0gb |
The sun is the sun because we need a word for it. We don't need to assign genders to inanimate objects. |
| 21:09 |
thefamilygrog66 |
^^^ that |
| 21:09 |
PilzAdam |
you can always just point upwards, no need to have a name for it |
| 21:09 |
* us`0gb |
votes that we all speak C instead of English/German/French |
| 21:09 |
dafull97 |
PilzAdam, Raname worked... us `0gb |
| 21:09 |
dafull97 |
^^ |
| 21:09 |
PilzAdam |
the reason why its called sun is that the majority of people in the english speaking part of the world have started to call it sun |
| 21:10 |
us`0gb |
dafull97, I don't understand. |
| 21:10 |
thefamilygrog66 |
is the sun a dude or a chick? |
| 21:10 |
dafull97 |
you and Pilzadam told me rename Folder |
| 21:10 |
us`0gb |
Oh, sorry, I get it. |
| 21:10 |
PilzAdam |
chick |
| 21:10 |
us`0gb |
Good to hear! |
| 21:10 |
thefamilygrog66 |
makes sense. hah! |
| 21:10 |
dafull97 |
yep, server is working =D |
| 21:10 |
PilzAdam |
there is a 3rd grammatical gender in german, neutral |
| 21:10 |
thefamilygrog66 |
neuter |
| 21:10 |
PilzAdam |
e.g. a house is neutral |
| 21:11 |
thefamilygrog66 |
everything inanimate is neutral |
| 21:11 |
us`0gb |
In English, the sun would probably be male. A male child is your "son". |
| 21:11 |
diemartin |
we use "el sol" (as in, male) |
| 21:11 |
thefamilygrog66 |
that's a homonym |
| 21:11 |
us`0gb |
I know. |
| 21:11 |
jojoa1997 |
* us`0gb votes that we all speak C instead of English/German/French |
| 21:11 |
* us`0gb |
is bad at jokes |
| 21:11 |
jojoa1997 |
^^WRONG^^ |
| 21:11 |
jojoa1997 |
we should talk in bitcode |
| 21:12 |
us`0gb |
You think I'm wrong about what I vote? I think you're wrong about me knowing what I vote. |
| 21:12 |
us`0gb |
*me not knowing |
| 21:12 |
jojoa1997 |
no |
| 21:12 |
* thefamilygrog66 |
is gonna have to learn C now... |
| 21:12 |
* dafull97 |
is Requesting help from PilzAdam |
| 21:12 |
jojoa1997 |
jojoa1997> * us`0gb votes that we all speak C instead of English/German/French |
| 21:12 |
jojoa1997 |
<jojoa1997> ^^WRONG^^ |
| 21:12 |
jojoa1997 |
oh yeah read your response wrong |
| 21:13 |
us`0gb |
"0gb.us votes that ..." "WRONG!" |
| 21:13 |
jojoa1997 |
it is just that cant you use different languages in C |
| 21:13 |
PilzAdam |
anyway, as I already said a few times: language evolves by a majority of people using something |
| 21:13 |
jojoa1997 |
like in lua you can set (local what=1) and (local que=1) |
| 21:13 |
dafull97 |
PilzAdam, whem you get a second i have a Question about the pop-up you gave me |
| 21:13 |
us`0gb |
Bitcode .... I forget what that is. I know what byte code is, but what is bitcode? |
| 21:13 |
PilzAdam |
this is also true for mods in Minetest, the majority of people call it mods, so its defined to be correct |
| 21:13 |
jojoa1997 |
Language is the slang of long ago |
| 21:14 |
thefamilygrog66 |
schlaang |
| 21:14 |
us`0gb |
It is not the correct term just because someone says it is. "Mod" has a meaning, and those things don't fit the meaning. THerefor, it is not the correct word. |
| 21:15 |
PilzAdam |
nono, not "someone", a lot of people |
| 21:15 |
us`0gb |
If I call the sky red, and I get everyone else to call it red, that doesn't make "red" the correct word. |
| 21:15 |
thefamilygrog66 |
what's not a mod? |
| 21:15 |
PilzAdam |
us`0gb, it actually does |
| 21:15 |
* us`0gb |
disagrees |
| 21:16 |
PilzAdam |
how do you think has language evolved? by someone writing a dictionary at 800 B.C.? |
| 21:16 |
diemartin |
us`0gb, in that case, tell me what is red |
| 21:16 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Schlaang Super Seat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en5WqnuYbwg |
| 21:16 |
us`0gb |
Maybe it does ... but it certainly doesn't make blue the incorrect word. So maybe red and blue would both be correct? |
| 21:17 |
us`0gb |
But by that logic, both plugin and mod would be correct. |
| 21:17 |
PilzAdam |
if _everyone_ uses "red" instead of "blue", then "blue" becomes wrong |
| 21:17 |
PilzAdam |
because nobody doesnt know the original meaning of "blue" |
| 21:18 |
PilzAdam |
example: spam |
| 21:18 |
PilzAdam |
it meant some kind of pork some time ago (AFAIK), now the majority uses it for a different meaning |
| 21:18 |
thefamilygrog66 |
canned processed pork product |
| 21:19 |
PilzAdam |
and if you tell someone "I want some spam" then they will ask for your e-mail adress and wont give you pork |
| 21:19 |
PilzAdam |
the old meaning just become deprecated |
| 21:19 |
thefamilygrog66 |
only computer nerds used it as junkmail until email was widespread among the mainstream |
| 21:20 |
us`0gb |
Well, "plugin" is still widely used everywhere outside the walls of the Minetest community to mean exactly what Minetest "mods" are. So plugin is actually the more widely used term. While you can claim "mod" is correct, there is no arguing that "plugin" is correct. |
| 21:20 |
thefamilygrog66 |
a mod modifies the game, so it's correct terminology, no? |
| 21:20 |
us`0gb |
I mean, that "plugin" is incorrect. |
| 21:21 |
PilzAdam |
its used widely in the Minecraft community (although its used "correct" from your point of view there), so users from there, who dont know the technical background, call MInetest mods "mods" too |
| 21:21 |
thefamilygrog66 |
they're both correct |
| 21:21 |
khonkhortisan |
minetest mods and pinetest plugins |
| 21:21 |
us`0gb |
It modifies an application, I'm fairly certain, and Minetest "mods" don't modify the application, they only add features like a plugin. |
| 21:21 |
thefamilygrog66 |
plugins are electrical scent emitting devices |
| 21:22 |
PilzAdam |
the reason why we use "mods" is that it has the same effect to the end-user as mods in MC |
| 21:22 |
thefamilygrog66 |
adding features arguably modifies the experience |
| 21:22 |
thefamilygrog66 |
if not the core program |
| 21:22 |
PilzAdam |
and from the technical side, the term "mod" gets overriden by lua-api.txt |
| 21:23 |
PilzAdam |
s/override/"overriden"/ |
| 21:24 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I look at it like vehicle mods, for example: you're not modifying the core automobile, but adding a feature |
| 21:24 |
us`0gb |
So the name is being copied from Minecraft mods, which are actually mods. We have something better, a plugin API. We should flaunt it, and not call them a lesser thing, a mod. |
| 21:25 |
us`0gb |
Plugins are better than mods. |
| 21:25 |
PilzAdam |
we can call it what we want |
| 21:25 |
us`0gb |
Yes, call it what you want, I wont try to interfere. But I'll not use the incorrect term myself. |
| 21:26 |
PilzAdam |
by using the other term you do interfere |
| 21:26 |
PilzAdam |
if its your intention or not |
| 21:26 |
us`0gb |
By using the other term, I'm following the majority of the world. |
| 21:27 |
us`0gb |
If anything, it is the MInetest comunity that are the interference in this case. |
| 21:27 |
PilzAdam |
ehm, the majority of the world doesnt speak English |
| 21:27 |
us`0gb |
True. |
| 21:27 |
PilzAdam |
and you use the wrong term when you look at your target audience |
| 21:27 |
us`0gb |
Besides, the majority of the world uses Microsoft Windows. Clearly, their reasoning skills cannot be trusted. |
| 21:28 |
* zat |
yawns |
| 21:29 |
harrison |
what do you call a pacifist hindu butler? |
| 21:29 |
us`0gb |
My target audience ... that's probably the most convincing argument I've heard so far, but I do not feel that my target audience misusing a word excuses me misusing the word as well. |
| 21:29 |
PilzAdam |
harrison, a "Pazifistischer Hindu Diener" |
| 21:30 |
PilzAdam |
(thats just a german translation) |
| 21:30 |
harrison |
mahatma coat |
| 21:30 |
us`0gb |
If my target audience I guess that's why I'm not allowed in the Minetest marketing team. |
| 21:31 |
us`0gb |
Oh, what? My sentance got mangled. |
| 21:31 |
us`0gb |
It should say "I guess that's why I'm not allowed in the Minetest marketing team." |
| 21:33 |
PilzAdam |
AFAIK it doesnt use "full unicode" |
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| 21:33 |
prestotron55 |
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| 21:34 |
PilzAdam |
prestotron55, ok, from now on you just say everything about your web server or you strange social network in /dev/null and not in this channel, ok? |
| 21:34 |
PilzAdam |
that will get you not-muted in this channel |
| 21:34 |
prestotron55 |
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| 21:36 |
prestotron55 |
[deleted] |
| 21:36 |
proller |
maybe just ban it? |
| 21:37 |
prestotron55 |
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prestotron55 |
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| 21:38 |
proller |
fuck noob - save channel |
| 21:39 |
prestotron55 |
[deleted] |
| 21:40 |
proller |
but not all noobs noobish like you |
| 21:40 |
proller |
you are nooBest |
| 21:41 |
prestotron55 |
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| 21:41 |
harrison |
prestotron55: I feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop |
| 21:41 |
proller |
you cant stop noobing here |
| 21:41 |
prestotron55 |
[deleted] |
| 21:41 |
prestotron55 |
[deleted] |
| 21:41 |
prestotron55 |
[deleted] |
| 21:41 |
proller |
flooding |
| 21:42 |
prestotron55 |
[deleted] |
| 21:42 |
harrison |
a noob is no boon certainly |
| 21:42 |
proller |
showing your 6cm pennis length |
| 21:42 |
prestotron55 |
[deleted] |
| 21:42 |
harrison |
see what i did there? |
| 21:42 |
proller |
^ every 5 minutes |
| 21:42 |
harrison |
prestotron55: I feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop |
| 21:42 |
PilzAdam |
!deop proller |
| 21:42 |
PilzAdam |
!mute prestotron55 |
| 21:42 |
PilzAdam |
!mute proller |
| 21:42 |
harrison |
do not harm the harrison please |
| 21:42 |
diemartin |
phew |
| 21:43 |
PilzAdam |
the harrison will not be harmed |
| 21:43 |
harrison |
xlnt |
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| 21:43 |
us`0gb |
prestotron55, "newb" is someone who's new at something. "Noob" is someone who is new (or acts new) and stupid/annoying. |
| 21:43 |
harrison |
did you hear about the navajo guard dog? |
| 21:43 |
PilzAdam |
!unmute proller |
| 21:43 |
PilzAdam |
!unmute prestotron55*!*@* |
| 21:43 |
harrison |
it was a dobie |
| 21:44 |
* proller |
win |
| 21:45 |
us`0gb |
Hmm. THat mute looks exceedingly easy to bypass by just changing user names. That might have to be fixed in MinetestBot. |
| 21:46 |
proller |
in irc everything easy, ip change too |
| 21:46 |
PilzAdam |
us`0gb, it turned out to be enough to shut this fight down |
| 21:47 |
us`0gb |
PilzAdam, yes, I saw it worked this time. I'm just ... overly paranoid. About everything. I see security issues everywhere. |
| 21:47 |
ShadowNinja |
^ And you can't /nick while quieted or banned, so you have to part, /nick and re-join. |
| 21:47 |
us`0gb |
ShadowNinja, I saw that as well. |
| 21:49 |
PilzAdam |
us`0gb, well, best is /mode +q *!*@* |
| 21:50 |
us`0gb |
Does that mute everyone? I still don't know IRC as well as I should. |
| 21:53 |
ShadowNinja |
us`0gb: Yes. PilzAdam: That is pretty pointless, use something like +m. |
| 21:54 |
ShadowNinja |
Well voices and ops can speak through quiets... |
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| 21:57 |
zat |
technic/config.lua:4: attempt to call global 'Settings' (a nil value) |
| 21:57 |
zat |
D:!? |
| 21:57 |
PilzAdam |
zat, technic master doesnt work with 0.4.7 stable |
| 21:57 |
PilzAdam |
use the stable branch |
| 21:58 |
zat |
I am trying to but I just cannot find the commit of worldedit that will work with 0.4.7 |
| 21:59 |
zat |
want... you meant the stable branch of technic? |
| 21:59 |
zat |
no, there is none |
| 22:00 |
PilzAdam |
https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/tree/stable <- this one |
| 22:01 |
ShadowNinja |
zat: https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit/releases/tag/0.6 |
| 22:01 |
zat |
thanks both |
| 22:02 |
zat |
the reason why I am trying to use 0.4.7 stable is for a certain cpp file which seems to employ LevelDB, assertion errors. |
| 22:03 |
zat |
probably src/CMakeFiles/minetestserver.dir/database-leveldb.cpp ... eh |
| 22:03 |
ShadowNinja |
zat: Elaborate. Try with gdb and a debug build. |
| 22:03 |
zat |
I will |
| 22:04 |
zat |
for now, I remember that it assertion fails on something like: status.ok() |
| 22:04 |
PilzAdam |
zat, you dont have to use Leveldb |
| 22:04 |
PilzAdam |
it shouldnt fail any assertions then |
| 22:05 |
zat |
it would kill my cpu though, sqlite performance is, you know. |
| 22:05 |
PilzAdam |
leveldb isnt that much better, AFAIK |
| 22:05 |
zat |
it has been for me |
| 22:05 |
ShadowNinja |
zat: 0.4.7 uses SQLite... |
| 22:05 |
zat |
That is whY! |
| 22:06 |
zat |
this one: src/database-leveldb.cpp:44: Database_LevelDB::Database_LevelDB(ServerMap*, std::string): Assertion 'status.ok()' failed. |
| 22:09 |
PilzAdam |
have you checked the world directory? |
| 22:10 |
zat |
yes |
| 22:10 |
PilzAdam |
what leveldb version do you use? |
| 22:11 |
zat |
1.7 |
| 22:11 |
PilzAdam |
try upgrading, I use 1.9 from the ubuntu repos, and I heard that is already outdated |
| 22:12 |
zat |
With leveldb 1.13 it works flawlessly in my laptop, I don’t think it is that. |
| 22:16 |
zat |
The funny thing is that I made the server work for an hour and played and tested everything... then no idea what I did that now it fails. |
| 22:19 |
zat |
would it be useful debugging info of my issue with the assertion using the latest commit of minetest? |
| 22:23 |
PilzAdam |
zat, maybe you found a way to corrput a leveldb database, can you reproduce it? |
| 22:24 |
zat |
I really cannot, I am rsyncing from a working db |
| 22:25 |
zat |
so I am totally sure that every time I retry the db is good |
| 22:25 |
zat |
ok... I compiled the last commit of minetest and it works good. |
| 22:26 |
zat |
maybe an undocumented bug accidentally fixed :D |
| 22:26 |
PilzAdam |
whith which commit didnt it work? |
| 22:27 |
zat |
f960c3b |
| 22:27 |
PilzAdam |
well, that line hasnt changed since it was added |
| 22:27 |
PilzAdam |
so it has nothing to do with Minetest |
| 22:27 |
zat |
wat... no idea then |
| 22:27 |
zat |
I will try once again |
| 22:27 |
PilzAdam |
*the version of MInetest |
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dafull97 |
Has anyone on here used the firearm mod? |
| 22:35 |
diemartin |
do you have any quiestion regarding the mod or truly asking who used it? |
| 22:35 |
diemartin |
-i |
| 22:36 |
zat |
ERROR[main]: Subgame [] could not be found. ????????????????????????????????????? |
| 22:38 |
diemartin |
dafull97, give yourself some ammo, then reload the gun (Shift+Click) |
| 22:39 |
dafull97 |
click mouse? |
| 22:40 |
diemartin |
... |
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PilzAdam |
zat, pastebin your world.mt please |
| 22:41 |
dafull97 |
sorry im nub, with the mods... and some servers side minetest... haha |
| 22:41 |
dafull97 |
so i got 90 bullets |
| 22:42 |
dafull97 |
clicked gun and left shift + click mouse |
| 22:43 |
diemartin |
well, yes, whenever someone says "click" in the context of computing, it generally means "Press the left mouse button" |
| 22:43 |
diemartin |
+ and release |
| 22:43 |
zat |
PilzAdam: http://pastebin.com/XtTbt17B |
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PilzAdam |
zat, have you edited that file manually? |
| 22:44 |
zat |
Yes |
| 22:44 |
PilzAdam |
do you have a game "tester" installed? |
| 22:45 |
zat |
not that I knowof |
| 22:45 |
zat |
ah now got it |
| 22:45 |
zat |
thanks |
| 22:45 |
PilzAdam |
I guess you want "minetest" there |
| 22:46 |
zat |
yes I do :) |
| 22:47 |
zat |
the logs should at least me more explainative than showing just a [] |
| 22:49 |
dafull97 |
diemartin: sorry, i relized that wasnt working at first i got it now |
| 22:49 |
diemartin |
you must get the right ammo for the right gun |
| 22:54 |
dafull97 |
yes |
| 22:55 |
dafull97 |
i knew that i had the right ammo ;) |
| 22:55 |
dafull97 |
how do i give new players items on start? |
| 22:56 |
diemartin |
take a look at the give_initial_stuff mod in minetest_game |
| 22:56 |
us`0gb |
Look into the code in minetest_game/mods/give_initial_stuf/init.lua. |
| 22:56 |
us`0gb |
*stuff |
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dafull97 |
i dont have that? |
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* harrison |
drifts to the bottom of the lagoon |
| 23:20 |
zat |
My server is not even trying to announce when server_announce = 1 |
| 23:21 |
zat |
(USE_CURL was used) |
| 23:25 |
dafull97 |
us `0gb: i dont have that? |
| 23:27 |
us`0gb |
Where did you get Minetest? Did you install it from the .deb? |
| 23:28 |
dafull97 |
in apt-get |
| 23:28 |
dafull97 |
i have it in a vps |
| 23:28 |
dafull97 |
well i have a bigger problem |
| 23:29 |
us`0gb |
Apt-get? YOur version is too old then. |
| 23:30 |
dafull97 |
http://pastebin.com/MWYXGAev |
| 23:30 |
dafull97 |
4.7 or somthing like that |
| 23:31 |
us`0gb |
That's not in APT. Did you install it by adding the PPA before using APT? |
| 23:31 |
dafull97 |
ya |
| 23:32 |
dafull97 |
did you look at pastebin |
| 23:32 |
us`0gb |
I was reading it as you asked. |
| 23:32 |
dafull97 |
thx... =D |
| 23:32 |
* dafull97 |
is thankful |
| 23:33 |
* dafull97 |
loves this action |
| 23:33 |
us`0gb |
All I can think is that there is a missing API hook. WHich would mean your Land Rush is too new, not working on the stable version of MInetest. |
| 23:34 |
us`0gb |
"19:26:51: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Player::deSerial$" |
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dafull97 |
it was running fine, |
| 23:45 |
us`0gb |
OH! I remember now. |
| 23:45 |
dafull97 |
then i stopped and rebooted vps, and did that |
| 23:45 |
dafull97 |
? |
| 23:45 |
us`0gb |
try deleting the players directory from the world directory. |
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us`0gb |
When you stopped the VPS without shutting down Minetest, you corrupted a player file. |
| 23:46 |
dafull97 |
what is the fix? |
| 23:47 |
dafull97 |
ohh, so just delete play files? |
| 23:47 |
us`0gb |
Player files, yes. |
| 23:47 |
us`0gb |
THe rest of the map should be fine. |
| 23:48 |
dafull97 |
nice it worked... very clever! |
| 23:48 |
* dafull97 |
is |
| 23:49 |
us`0gb |
Okay, good. |
| 23:49 |
* dafull97 |
is VERY Thankful for us `0gb =D |
| 23:49 |
us`0gb |
Yeah, no problem. |
| 23:51 |
dafull97 |
one more question |
| 23:53 |
dafull97 |
where do i go to start the *NNEW PLAYERS ONLY* with items? |
| 23:54 |
us`0gb |
/usr/share/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/give_initial_stuff/init.lua will give you example code for starting users with items. |
| 23:56 |
dafull97 |
Thanks!! |
| 23:56 |
us`0gb |
Yeah, any time. |
