Time Nick Message 00:01 dafull97 Evergreen... 00:01 Evergreen What? 00:01 PilzAdam Evergreen... 00:01 Evergreen ..... 00:02 kaeza Evergreen... 00:02 Evergreen wat 00:02 * Evergreen is confused 00:02 PilzAdam :-p 00:04 kaeza /topic Today is "Ping Evergreen" Day! \:D/ 00:04 PilzAdam lol, dat face: \:D/ 00:06 dafull97 sorry, i was saying thank you but got distracted 00:06 dafull97 so thanks 00:06 Evergreen Okay, your welcome then. What exactly is the thanks for? 00:07 dafull97 helping me 00:07 Evergreen Oh yes, I forgot. No problem 00:08 Evergreen Someone should make a *ping* some random person day the channel topic 00:08 PilzAdam no, not again 00:09 milleja46 PilzAdam: what? why? sounds fun as long as it's not a newb pinging list XD 00:10 PilzAdam I tried "Ping PilzAdam to get 7 days of luck" once, but sfan5 removed it 00:10 milleja46 well kinda makes sense >_> 00:10 Evergreen Yeah, that probably isn't a good idea 00:10 milleja46 but it could be a user joke :P 00:10 [0gb_us] That's because sfan5 doesn't like people getting luck. 00:10 PilzAdam protip: you still get 7 days of luck when pinging PilzAdam 00:10 milleja46 without actually putting in the topic though :-\ 00:12 ShadowNinja PilzAdam, PilzAdam, PilzAdam, PilzAdam: Does it add up? 00:12 ShadowNinja ;-) 00:12 PilzAdam no 00:12 ShadowNinja :-( 00:12 PilzAdam hey, that would be too easy 00:12 * ShadowNinja writes a pingadam command to ShadowBot... 00:12 ShadowNinja s/to/for/ 00:14 ShadowNinja ShadowBot: pingadam 00:14 ShadowBot PilzAdam PilzAdam PilzAdam PilzAdam PilzAdam PilzAdam PilzAdam PilzAdam PilzAdam 00:14 ShadowNinja :-D 00:14 PilzAdam now we have a lucky bot 00:15 Evergreen Now you should get your bot to play the slot machines or something 00:18 [0gb_us] What? You have a command for that? 00:18 [0gb_us] Oh, it's new. My bad. 00:19 ShadowNinja Evergreen: ,,(list Games) 00:19 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette 00:29 Allegaeon Hello 00:31 PilzAdam hi 00:39 Evergreen Lol, xkcd is awesome 00:39 PilzAdam you dont say 00:42 [0gb_us] Hello! 00:47 Allegaeon where can i find granite ni a mintest serer??? 00:48 Allegaeon could you give emh the coordinates? 00:48 Allegaeon *meh 00:49 PilzAdam Allegaeon, which server? 00:49 Allegaeon Landrush 00:50 PilzAdam I guess granite is a part of a mod 00:50 Allegaeon yeah 00:51 fairiestoy Its from the technic mod 00:51 PilzAdam I guess granite spawns randomly 00:52 fairiestoy You can find granite in quite bigger veins if you visit the public mines Alle 00:52 fairiestoy (one is near /spawn 6 near the lake or in town) 00:55 Allegaeon Ohhhh 00:55 Allegaeon Thanks :-) 00:55 Allegaeon But where in spawn 6? 00:57 Allegaeon like where is the public mine???? 00:57 fairiestoy Allegaeon, i had a better idea, type /spawn 1 There is a marble pyramid from EverHill, it is more safe (because it is only partially claimed and with water elevator ) and it goes deeper 00:58 fairiestoy And you can't miss it from spawn point ( a marble pyramid near public power station ) 00:58 Allegaeon Ive been there lots of times 00:58 Allegaeon are you sure its there? 00:59 fairiestoy Yep, ask in the global. Somebody will lead you otherwise :3 01:05 Allegaeon 'Thanks dude :-) 01:05 Allegaeon But what are the coordinates? 01:06 fairiestoy yw, did you asked in global? Im not ingame atm ( if nobody responses i come online to show you, no problem at all ) 01:08 Allegaeon Ok 01:08 Allegaeon maybe tommorow 01:08 Allegaeon thanks for the help 01:11 PilzAdam bye 01:15 ShadowNinja Is it posible to make a "text" hud element wrap? 01:20 ShadowNinja "scale" seems t do nothing... 01:20 ShadowNinja to* 01:22 ShadowNinja hmmmm: ^ 01:22 hmmmm hello there 01:22 hmmmm I really don't know, i'd have to look at the source code 01:22 hmmmm so, what, no "welcome back"? 01:22 hmmmm nobody noticed that i was gone for like 5 days? 01:26 dafull97 Evergreen you there? 01:26 ShadowNinja Welcome back. :-) FWIW I noticed. 01:27 dafull97 can someone help me with server side solution 01:27 hmmmm i moved to Ohio within that time and went 4 days without internet 01:29 hmmmm being completely honest, the area i'm at is not really that bad, but living alone blows hard 01:29 hmmmm take my advice, don't live on your own expecting it to be awesome 01:29 hmmmm you'll be sorely disappointed 01:29 hmmmm until you start making friends at least, which could take a long time 01:29 hmmmm also you miss your family like crazy 01:30 ShadowNinja Um, player:hud_change(id, "text", "Some different text") --> text changes from white to black. 01:30 hmmmm within the time i had no internet i figured i'd try to get some more work done on the mapgen configuration menu... couldn't focus for longer than 2 minutes 01:30 ShadowNinja And the text doesn't actually change. 01:30 hmmmm shadowninja, i wasn't the last person to dick around with that, someone else was 01:31 hmmmm it could be that it became broken since then 01:32 kaeza ShadowNinja, may be related: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-04-20#i_3035409 01:36 ShadowNinja kaeza: Try number = 0xFFFFFF in hud_add and see if the color changes to black. 01:39 ShadowNinja hmmmm: This was reverted? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/14ba94ad6a0e2176106af08e41d99ad81b03e9e4 01:40 hmmmm was that?? 01:40 hmmmm to be completely honest I barely remember any of that 01:40 hmmmm it's been so long since i've worked on hud related things 01:40 ShadowNinja The current version isn't like that... 01:41 ShadowNinja This reverted it: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/ab433775777c4f5055bcf4d2a1cffc506c4f9961 01:41 hmmmm WHELP 01:42 hmmmm freaking sapier's huge sweeping changes 01:42 hmmmm i knew something like this would've happened but you can never predict where 01:42 hmmmm just manually apply the patch and be done with it I suppose 01:50 ShadowNinja Yep, that was the issue with hud_change, it works properly now. It has two simple merge conflicts. Can you re-commit it hmmmm? 01:50 hmmmm someone else do it 01:50 hmmmm i need to go hunt for food right now 01:51 ShadowNinja kahrl: ^? 01:52 hmmmm I'm serious, I need to look for food 01:52 VanessaE hi all. 01:52 * VanessaE hands hmmmm some chicken salad. 01:52 hmmmm the only thing i have is leftovers and i don't have a microwave yet 01:52 hmmmm and i can't cook myself any noodles because i didn't get the water filter yet 01:53 VanessaE time to head off to Subway then, it sounds like. 01:53 VanessaE (if they're still open) 01:53 hmmmm subway really went downhill 01:54 ShadowNinja Time to go to then. 01:54 VanessaE ...or Blimpie's, or Quizno's 01:54 hmmmm can't do that at 10 pm 01:54 VanessaE groceries later - never shop while hungry 02:00 ShadowNinja Why do mod developers use variables to make sure globalstep functions that check all the players only run once every second or so when the function takes about 0.00005 seconds? 02:01 ShadowNinja Well my mod will be more responsive... 02:02 fairiestoy Shouldn't that be, what minetest.after is for? 02:02 ShadowNinja (That is with only singleplayer, but I can't imagine more players would more than double it) 02:04 ShadowNinja fairiestoy: No, things that run in a loop every tenth of a second or so should use register_globalstep(that is what minetest.after uses) 02:05 fairiestoy Okay, thanks for the explanation 02:08 jojoa1997 hello 02:10 fairiestoy I have a general question if allowed. What is better according to performance: Running one ( or a few ) ABMs, or trying to achieve the same effect with other time routines like globalsteps? 02:12 dafull97 has anyone ever used PilzAdams mods? 02:13 dafull97 VanessaE, ^^ have you? 02:14 jojoa1997 does pilzadam use globalstep or abms? 02:16 fairiestoy Not informed about that. Why? 02:17 ShadowNinja fairiestoy: Use ABMs for working with nodes, globalstep for doing global things. 02:19 fairiestoy ShadowNinja: So it has better performance using ABMs? I thought about it to change furnaces to kick in after metadata has been moved, and finish the stuff when accessing it the next time or minetest.after( finished_time_period ) instead of using ABMs which are iterating through the available nodes in this area 02:22 ShadowNinja fairiestoy: I'm not sure what you mean. 02:24 fairiestoy Atm furnaces 'kick in' when the running ABM detects that the furnace provides all necessary parameters ( fuel and material to be cooked ). If you now use on_metadata_move (don't remember the right name) and kick it in when both parameters are given, you don't need the abm (first point) 02:24 fairiestoy So you save one abm which runs all the time 02:25 fairiestoy To now calculate the amount of material which has been cooked, you can precalc the time needed which is given A) By the amount of fuel and B) The amount of material 02:25 fairiestoy And use minetest.after to replace the active furnace with the inactive again 02:26 fairiestoy If you now want to stop the production in the mid, just replace the formspec meta, and use on_rightclick in the node definition of the furnace and let it calculate the time difference and the possible amount. 02:27 fairiestoy Landrush for example has the technic mod installed, and there are more then 120 furnaces ( circa ). I think saving this abm could then worth it, but only if it works 02:32 ShadowNinja This doesn't sound like it will work, but I have to go now, bye. 02:32 fairiestoy That was the question :3 bye 02:34 Allegaeon I have a question 02:35 Allegaeon Do syphons work with water in minetest? 02:40 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Re-fix hud_change stat argument retrieval fb6a789991 2013-09-25T19:39:10-07:00 http://git.io/Tzd-bA 02:41 dafull97 my new server is going preety good 02:41 dafull97 =d 02:41 dafull97 working on new mods 02:42 kahrl fairiestoy: not sure if it'll actually work, but that was one of the intended uses when metadata callbacks were added 02:43 kahrl don't use minetest.after though, because the callback will be lost if the server is shut down in the meantime 02:44 Allegaeon Do syphons work with water in minetest? 02:44 fairiestoy Hmm... Okay, thanks for the info kahrl 02:45 Allegaeon Syphones are tubes a water that are in the shape of an inverse U 02:45 Allegaeon Its properties allow one source of water to travel to another place in that shape 02:46 Allegaeon Does this property exist in minetest? 02:47 fairiestoy Do you mean within the pipeworks mod Allegaeon? 02:49 Allegaeon So can anyone ask my question? 02:49 Allegaeon *answer 02:50 Renoki Does this property exist in minetest? 02:50 Renoki oh, answer. 02:50 Renoki uh 02:51 fairiestoy Allegaeon, if you are working with pipeworks, you can make any shapes afaik 02:52 Allegaeon Ok 02:52 Allegaeon Well what about without pipes? 02:53 Allegaeon if there is enough water would it rise and go via pathway in an inverse u shape? 03:00 fairiestoy Well, in fact if you set a water node on top of another water node, it will rise 03:00 fairiestoy (kind of) 03:02 Allegaeon Oh cool 03:02 Allegaeon wait where are they in the inventory 03:04 Allegaeon ? 03:18 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks 03:22 thefamilygrog66 Whoa, that was a strong magic flying bean! 03:22 thefamilygrog66 http://i.imgur.com/mf9qyx4.png 03:25 pitriss oh noes, drugs now also in mt! :D 03:25 thefamilygrog66 Not drugs - magic beans! 03:26 thefamilygrog66 No beanstalks yet though... 03:27 thefamilygrog66 Just running, jumping and flying beans. Good times, as long as damage is not enabled! 03:37 Allegaeon LOL pitriss 03:52 thefamilygrog66 0gb is morphing! 03:54 us\0gb Oh, sorry, I'm trying something new. 03:54 thefamilygrog66 No need to apologize, haha. 03:54 us\0gb Or sort of new. Did you know a tilde and anything after it will be dropped from your name? 03:54 us\0gb "/nick us~0gb" resulted in my name being "us". 04:03 thefamilygrog66 killer tilde 04:23 hoodedice So... 04:23 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=112107#p112107 04:24 us^0gb hoodedice, bad request. 04:24 hoodedice ? 04:24 us^0gb THe URI you posted. 04:24 hoodedice Bad, as in: Bad math prob, don't bother me with it? 04:25 hoodedice okay 04:25 us^0gb As in it says "Bad request. The link you followed is incorrect or outdated.". 04:25 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=112107#p112107 04:25 us^0gb A broken page. 04:25 hoodedice (Same schist output) 04:26 us^0gb Same page, same error page. 04:26 hoodedice Oh, it's offtopic, you'll have to log into the forums first 04:26 us^0gb Oh, got it. I didn't know part of the forum was in lock down. 04:28 thefamilygrog66 Hey us^0gb, look what Simonster had me make: http://i.imgur.com/mf9qyx4.png 04:28 us^0gb Do those make you fly? 04:29 thefamilygrog66 Yes, the blue ones do. Red makes you jump really high, and green makes you run fast. 04:29 thefamilygrog66 Best to uncheck 'enable damage' though... 04:29 us^0gb Ha ha, nice! How do you do it? 04:30 us^0gb Attached entities? 04:30 thefamilygrog66 physics_override 04:31 us^0gb You can override a single player's physics without effecting other players? Now that has potential for creativity. THough you already know that, clearly. 04:31 hoodedice thefamilygrog66: http://www.watchcartoononline.com/thumbs/Jackie-Chan-Adventures-First-Season-1-Episode-1.jpg 04:32 thefamilygrog66 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1611 04:32 hoodedice (Talismans seem better than beans for the purpose) 04:32 us^0gb Hmm. I really need to learn the new API, but I'm still scratching the ground here trying to reinvent the wheel. 04:32 thefamilygrog66 Hey, the boy wanted magic beans, what can I say? 04:32 thefamilygrog66 :) 04:33 us^0gb You found a way, which is awesome. I might have to steal your idea though. 04:33 hoodedice =) 04:33 hoodedice Posting this again: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=112107#p112107 04:34 hoodedice (I need backfeed) 04:34 us^0gb Not for now though. I'm still drawing textures and defining mapgen nodes. 04:34 thefamilygrog66 For sure, us^0gb! I wish I could figure out how to turn off falling damage for specific players (i.e. not involving a particular node) 04:35 thefamilygrog66 At this point, as I mentioned, it only really works when damage is turned off. 04:35 us^0gb Hmm, yeah. I'm also going to try figuring out how those node damage-blockers work without reading the code. I think I saw the right tool in the API, but I need to get the basics set up first. 04:37 us^0gb As in, basic trees and such. Though I'm going to go a bit nuts with them and try to make the C++ trees grow different nodes in different seasons by redefining mapgen_leaves and such mid-game. 04:37 thefamilygrog66 I was able to turn off damage when a player ate a bean, though it would affect all players for the 30 seconds or so, and the player still lost hearts (though that didn't matter). 04:37 us^0gb I don't know if redefining aliases mid-ame will work though. 04:37 us^0gb (mid-game 04:37 us^0gb *mid-game 04:38 thefamilygrog66 that could work, I think 04:39 thefamilygrog66 how would you define seasons though, timewise? 04:39 us^0gb I would either define them in terms of three-month intervals or one-month intervals. I haven't decided which. 04:40 us^0gb Both have advanteges. 04:41 thefamilygrog66 do trees actually "grow" leaves during gameplay though, or are they already defined when the tree is? 04:42 us^0gb They are defined when the tree grows. So a spring-time tree will always be a spring-time tree, even in the winter. 04:43 thefamilygrog66 so new (i.e. additional) leaves don't grow 04:43 us^0gb That way you can keep your creations the way you created them. 04:43 us^0gb Right, no new leaves. 04:44 thefamilygrog66 so it would just be a matter of redefining default:leaves every season 04:46 us^0gb Not redefining default:leaves, as that would redefine all copies of the leaves and players would have to reconnect to see the change. Instead, redifine the mapgen_leaves alias, which would point to default:leaves_spring, default:leaves_summer, et cetera. 04:46 us^0gb default:branches_winter, maybe. 04:49 thefamilygrog66 how many seconds in a default minetest day? 04:50 us^0gb In a default day? I'm not sure. 04:53 us^0gb I wonder if maybe 12 "seasons" would be a good idea. It would show a more gradual change. 04:54 thefamilygrog66 true 04:55 thefamilygrog66 for four seasons, each being 30 minetest days long, something like this might work: http://pastebin.com/cUSKhXLR 04:56 thefamilygrog66 I remember seeing a seasons mod awhile back - not sure how they did it 04:58 us^0gb That changes the already-placed nodes. Rather, I need to call minetest.register_alias("mapgen_leaves", "seasons:leaves_spring"). Also, I meant real-time months, not Minetest months. 04:58 thefamilygrog66 ahh 04:59 us^0gb This isn't going to be like the seasons plugin, but a little different. 04:59 us^0gb If you build out of spring leaves with flowers, you can be sure they'll stay as spring leaves with flowers. 05:00 thefamilygrog66 gotcha 05:00 us^0gb Unless I decide to implement fire or something. 05:00 thefamilygrog66 fire bad 05:00 us^0gb I don't know if I want fire in my game ... 05:00 us^0gb I think it works well for single player worlds, but not multiplayer. 05:01 thefamilygrog66 The only fire in mine currently is caused by Dungeon Masters and their crazy fireballs 05:01 us^0gb Yeah ... that's probably the best idea. Keep fire out of the hands of attackers. 05:02 thefamilygrog66 It's bad enough when the DMs burn a huge hole in the ground. 05:02 us^0gb Yeah ... given my OCD, I can't stand the node loss they cause. 05:03 us^0gb There's a limited amount of dirt available, I don't want it destroyed. 05:03 thefamilygrog66 hehe 05:03 us^0gb I'm considering not implementing /pulverize in my game. 05:05 thefamilygrog66 Are you running world edit? 05:06 us^0gb No, I am not. 05:08 us^0gb I might add something similar to worldedit in the future, but a bit Nerfed. 05:08 thefamilygrog66 I like it for doing repairs, making tunnels and so on 05:08 us^0gb But for now, as I said, I don't even have all the mapgen nodes defined, so it's not a priority at the moment. 05:09 us^0gb Yeah, it has great uses, but is too powerful for my tastes. 05:09 us^0gb "//set default:nyancat" "Oops, poptart cats no longer have any value." 05:13 kaeza same as creative mode 05:13 kaeza what's the challenge if you can make items out of thin air? 05:13 us^0gb Exactly. 05:14 us^0gb That's why I built my Nerfed version, though I'll probably rebuild it, not use the old one. 05:15 us^0gb My version takes the material out of your inventory as it places nodes. 05:18 thefamilygrog66 night folks! 05:18 us^0gb Night! 05:34 us^0gb My alias swapping idea did not work, and thus, my plans are foiled. 05:35 us^0gb I could implement it with an extra node and an ABM, but that would be hacky. 05:58 sfan5 ShadowBot: coin 05:58 sfan5 :( 05:58 sfan5 :-( 05:58 us^0gb Hmm? 05:58 us^0gb WHat was that supposed to do? 06:16 sfan5 ShadowNinja: coin, dice, eightball, monologue, and roulette 06:33 VanessaE hi all. 06:34 us^0gb Hello! 06:36 us^0gb Why are some of the ABMs defined in Lua, but others are defined in C++? Does anyone here know? 06:37 VanessaE leftovers from the transition from 0.3.x to 0.4.x? 06:37 us^0gb Some are new though. They added one for dirt_with_snow. 06:37 us^0gb And the jungle trees. 06:37 us^0gb Jungle saplings, I should say. 06:37 VanessaE wtf? 06:38 VanessaE yeah I knew about that one 06:38 VanessaE but I don't know that it's particularly new is it? 06:38 VanessaE I mean, we'd had jungles like, forever 06:38 us^0gb It's newer than the Lua API. 06:38 us^0gb Meaning it's not a leftover. 06:38 VanessaE huh. 06:39 VanessaE well I don't know enough of the C++ codebase to understand 99% of what goes on in it or why :) 06:39 us^0gb Ha ha, I understand that. I was trying to work with CONTENT_AIR the other day, and I couldn't figure out what it was being used for and why. 06:42 kahrl it's just the node id of air 06:43 us^0gb I know what it is, but I don't see how the air node is relevant in most contexts in which it appears. 06:43 us^0gb Contexts which shouldn't involve any nodes at all. 06:44 us^0gb And which don't involve any user-defined nodes. 06:44 kahrl I see it mostly used in the mapgen so it e.g. checks if air has been generated somewhere 06:44 us^0gb It's like the air node has some sort of special purpose throughout half the engine 06:44 us^0gb . 06:45 kahrl examples? 06:46 us^0gb I deleted my local copy, making it hard to grep. I'll see what I can find though. 06:48 us^0gb kahrl, server.cpp 06:49 kahrl the client prediction is that a dug node is replaced by air 06:49 kahrl if that doesn't happen the server must send the actual result 06:49 us^0gb Okay, That makes sense. 06:50 us^0gb I suppose air is special. But it doesn't mean I understand much of the code it's entangled in. 06:52 us^0gb The fact that it's the only node that is not used for error handling but is hardcoded into the engine anyway speaks for itself, if you ask me. 06:53 kahrl it's just incredibly convenient to have at least one non-error node to rely on 06:53 us^0gb Hmm. That could be why then. 08:49 JamesTait Good morning all; happy European Day of Languages! :-D 08:50 jin_xi everyday is some fucking day 08:52 VanessaE better "happy X day" than "and you all can just piss off" :) 09:05 JamesTait VanessaE, well, yes, I prefer to think of it that way too. And plain old "good morning" every morning just gets a bit boring. 09:05 VanessaE yup 09:06 JamesTait So what's new? 09:06 VanessaE nothing much 09:06 JamesTait I saw someone, maybe you, commenting on the zeg9 farming mod yesterday. That sounds like a lot of fun. 09:07 JamesTait I've lost track of the mods my boys have installed and uninstalled. Maybe that's one of them, but I'll point it out to them anyway. 09:08 JamesTait I'll have a little play with it on my laptop and then maybe install it on our server. 09:08 VanessaE yeah, I use his fork of farming_plus on my server 09:09 JamesTait Ah, well then since I trust you, I'll forego the playing around on my laptop bit. ;) 09:09 VanessaE well still play around with it some 09:10 VanessaE imho it spawns plants a little too frequently 09:10 JamesTait Is it configurable? If not, I guess it's only a matter of tweaking a line or two? 09:11 VanessaE I haven't looked into the code yet 09:11 VanessaE but I'm sure it's not too hard. the distribution looks perlin-based 09:12 JamesTait I'd really like to have a bash at mod hacking. I know nothing of Lua, and even less about the Minetest API, but I look at the code in the mods I download and it looks quite understandable. 09:13 VanessaE it's not hard to learn 09:15 JamesTait I read through a tutorial not long back, I think it made a special kind of tree that could be used for decoration. That all looked quite straightforward. 09:17 JamesTait But I guess it's like any language, you need to learn the language syntax and the standard library. Soon, when things settle down and I'm not spending my evenings catching up on work. 09:17 JamesTait I notice 0.4.7 is in the Ubuntu Saucy repo, presumably sync'd from Debian. 09:18 VanessaE cool. too bad it's already outdated :) 09:19 JamesTait True, but I think in Raring it was 0.3.5 or something. 09:19 VanessaE 0.3.1 probably 09:19 JamesTait We use the daily PPA anyway. ;) 10:19 VanessaE hi 11:10 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:11 VanessaE hi 11:19 VanessaE PilzAdam: regarding casimir's move request, I'd have to say no. 11:20 VanessaE maybe it could be moved to "Mintest-related projects" or something 11:23 caemir casimir >< 11:36 kaeza maybe it could be renamed to communitycraft_game :P 11:40 kaeza random spam: http://kaeza.mooo.com/pub/minetest/wiki/wiki.lua?page=Main.en 11:41 kaeza ^ an online viewer for Wiki mod pages 11:45 VanessaE too mad mouse focus is busted in Linux. 11:46 VanessaE (in the F10 console) 12:19 dafull97 Hey guys 12:20 VanessaE hi 12:27 dafull97 Hey VanessaE, i got m server running got about 10 mods or so... 12:28 dafull97 added the Gun mod, havnt tested 12:28 VanessaE cool 12:29 dafull97 so question about modding i think, how can you make a box pop-up at start-up when they join? 12:29 dafull97 so i can tell rules and information 12:30 VanessaE no clue, I suck at making formspecs 12:30 dafull97 is there anyone that you know that has them in there server? 12:30 VanessaE most server admins just have a big wall of signs somewhere near the spawn point 12:31 dafull97 thats a good idea, but i want new players to even see it 12:31 dafull97 if they dont have a cluw what they are 12:31 dafull97 clue* 12:31 dafull97 and how to play the game 12:48 sfan5 hi everyone 12:48 dafull97 hello! 12:49 dafull97 sfan5 12:49 dafull97 do you own a server? 12:49 sfan5 yes 12:49 dafull97 do you know how to make a pop-up like explaining rules when server starts 12:49 dafull97 ? 12:49 sfan5 no 12:50 dafull97 ok, thanks anyway... 12:50 dafull97 what is your server called? 12:51 PilzAdam dafull97, when the server starts or when a player joins? 12:52 dafull97 like when a player joins it does a pop-up to them expalining rules, etc. 12:52 dafull97 explaining* 12:54 dafull97 also, what about starting them with items? 12:55 PilzAdam something like this should work: https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/6713763 12:57 dafull97 wow yes, im not familar with lua, but i can read code to a point... so where "server_rules" i put my server rules correct> 12:57 dafull97 and where would this go? 12:57 PilzAdam no 12:57 * Jordach_ hurts 12:57 PilzAdam the rules will go into the label at the top 12:57 dafull97 what i do with this again? 12:57 PilzAdam instead of "Test text" 12:57 dafull97 ok... 12:58 dafull97 like i said not familar with lua 12:58 PilzAdam it goes into the init.lua of a new mod 12:58 dafull97 ok, thanks! 12:58 dafull97 is there a way to use python for mods? 12:58 PilzAdam no 12:59 Jordach it's Lua or GTFO 12:59 Jordach and no, im not irc'ing from my college; i'm feeling like shit 13:00 PilzAdam I think the correct word is "chatting" and not "irc'ing" 13:02 Jordach anyone got maptools:super_apple? i need one atm 13:02 VanessaE /give Jordach maptools:super_apple 2 13:02 VanessaE ;) 13:02 Jordach :) 13:03 * Jordach is eating lunch 13:11 Jordach hello Evergreen 13:11 Evergreen Hi 13:13 * Jordach feels like shit literally 13:13 * Jordach considers a day in the life of renders 13:13 Jordach comic book anyone? 13:13 kaeza Jordach, Minetest Manga 13:13 Jordach shit 13:13 Jordach shit shit shi 13:13 VanessaE Jordach: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Q9D4dcYng 13:14 kaeza featuring Minetest-tan :P 13:14 Jordach i've just seen an infinite loop 13:14 * Jordach making a render of Jordach making a render of Jordach]# 13:14 Jordach -]# 13:14 Jordach this can go on an on an on 13:14 VanessaE Jordachception 13:14 Jordach plol 13:15 PilzAdam when Im ill it helps me to not sit in front of a screen 13:15 Jordach PilzAdam, i've been running to the toilet like clockwork 13:15 Jordach every 40 mins 13:15 PilzAdam too much info 13:15 Jordach PilzAdam, the screen isnt my problem; food is 13:19 Jordach or my body literally dumped my entire sugar content 13:21 rubenwardy Hi all! 13:21 VanessaE hi 13:22 Jordach hey ruben 13:27 kaeza http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Rob/devices2.png 13:29 Jordach > flucker 13:29 Jordach take the l out 13:30 kaeza heh 13:32 * Jordach pokes Taoki 13:32 Jordach Taoki, http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/379/untitled.png 13:34 rubenwardy Nice jordach! 13:34 Jordach i always post 1080p renders in my topic too 13:50 nanomo hi, someone can tell me the requirments to run minetest? 13:50 nanomo i have a windows 2003 server, after i open minetest.exe it's close the cmd windows 13:52 caemir my god http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/340/1017285_127361110805471_1417470548_n.jpg 13:53 Jordach caemir, that's my machine 14:00 ShadowNinja nanomo: 2003 sounds very old, do you have a good graphics card? 14:02 * harrison deploys Cuttlefish Cloak 14:06 VanessaE webdesigner says he's working on it, specifically, physics. 14:06 VanessaE he wants the motion of the vehicle to be accurate 14:07 * Jordach already complained about physics in minetest 14:10 * harrison drifts towards the reef 14:10 Jordach lol harrison 14:10 * Jordach pokes sfan5 14:10 * harrison 's tentacles quiver listlessly 14:11 * sfan5 pokes Jordach 14:12 PilzAdam nanomo, have you downloaded the official release? 14:19 * harrison suddenly jets away in a cloud of ink 14:21 PilzAdam harrison, cant you bring a bit more variety in your posts? its kinda boring for me when I have to read the same thing copied to 3 channels 14:22 nanomo 2003 its onlye for the server 14:22 harrison one' s public is a cruel taskmistress indeed 14:22 nanomo yes its the official 0.4.7 14:22 dafull97 hey all =D 14:23 PilzAdam nanomo, do you run it from cmd and the cmd crashes then, or does the cmd that opens when you click on the .exe close? 14:23 nanomo whn open the exe 14:23 * harrison blends into the background of #minetest 14:25 * Jordach thinks MSVC++ Redist is missing 14:25 PilzAdam nanomo, try running it from cmd 14:28 nanomo PilzAdam: you mean runing the exe from cmd? tis happen the same 14:36 dafull97 stupid internet 14:36 dafull97 haha 14:43 Jordach lollolololol 14:43 Jordach blender's physics simulation fail 14:43 dafull97 PilzAdam 14:43 dafull97 can you get me that link again> 14:43 dafull97 to the pop-up, rules thing? 14:57 * Jordach waits for render 14:58 * john_minetest waits for 17:00 14:58 dafull97 Jordach, how do you do that like make it like your doing something 14:58 Jordach dafull97, magic 14:58 dafull97 :P 14:59 dafull97 can someone tell me? 14:59 dafull97 haha 15:00 * dafull97 Found out how =D 15:01 Jordach john_minetest, plol 15:02 * john_minetest waits for 18:00 15:04 dafull97 PilzAdam, if you are on query me please 15:06 * dafull97 is Waiting for class to dismiss 15:07 dafull97 VannessaE, do you know lua ? 15:09 ShadowNinja dafull97: Yes, she does, in fact she was in the top 1% of github Lua coders last I checked... 15:09 dafull97 ok, well do you? =D 15:10 ShadowNinja dafull97: Yes. 15:10 sfan5 holy fucking shit 15:10 VanessaE ShadowNinja: I am? 15:11 * sfan5 got Irrlicht working on android 15:11 VanessaE (and indeed, I know Lua, at least enough to code for minetest) 15:11 ShadowNinja VanessaE: http://osrc.dfm.io/VanessaE 15:11 VanessaE sfan5: WOOT! 15:11 dafull97 cool can you help me via pastebin, i got a code from PilzAdam that made a popup when players join, however it will not work :( 15:11 sfan5 just becase I did not call a function the whole shared library did not load 15:11 sfan5 and.... 15:11 sfan5 I think I need a coffee now 15:11 VanessaE ShadowNinja: whoa, how the hell did that happen? 15:11 sfan5 or a tea, whatever 15:12 ShadowNinja VanessaE: You update your mods a lot... 15:12 dafull97 VanessaE, you deserve it... help me alot =D 15:12 diemartin https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=112153#p112153 15:13 dafull97 ShadowNinja, can you help me... and VanessaE if she wants =D 15:13 VanessaE afraid I can't right now 15:13 ShadowNinja dafull97: Maybe in an hour or so. 15:13 VanessaE I have to get outta here in a couple mins 15:13 PilzAdam "It seems—from their activity streams—that PilzAdam and celeron55 are probably friends or at least virtual friends. With this in mind, it's worth noting that celeron55 is less of a pusher. There is also an obvious connection between PilzAdam and Zeg9, Novatux, jojoa1997 and Traxie21." 15:14 dafull97 Even better, PilzAdam... Help? =D 15:14 dafull97 Thanks anyway guys... @ VanessaE and ShadowNinja 15:14 PilzAdam lol, the website says that I work best in the morning, but its actually deep in the night 15:15 PilzAdam I usually sleep at 10 AM 15:15 Jordach oh look 15:15 Jordach diemartin, posts removed 15:16 PilzAdam "PilzAdam is a serious C expert" never knew that ;-) 15:16 ShadowNinja Yep, the "inperfect" timezone detection is very bad. 15:16 Jordach dafuq 15:16 VanessaE gotta run 15:16 dafull97 PilzAdam?? 15:17 Jordach \o/ 15:17 Jordach Jordan has contributed to repositories in 6 different languages. In particular, Jordan is a serious C++ expert 15:18 Jordach say wut 15:19 Jordach i call complete bullshit http://osrc.dfm.io/Jordach 15:19 ShadowNinja Jordach: It checks the repo's main language, not the language of your code. 15:20 dafull97 PilzAdam: when you get the chance Query me... mods didnt work correctly, thanks... 15:20 PilzAdam Jordach, you always looked like a slave to me 15:20 PilzAdam :-p 15:21 Jordach PilzAdam, bitch please 15:22 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, that site is complete bullshit, stick to ohloh 15:22 Jordach btw, as im working on a rendered comic book, im returning cel shading 15:22 PilzAdam dafull97, now I have time for you 15:22 PilzAdam what doesnt work? 15:22 dafull97 the lua code returns error 15:22 diemartin this is nice http://osrc.dfm.io/kaeza 15:23 dafull97 i will put on pastebin 15:24 Jordach PilzAdam, new sig link: http://www.homemade-gifts-made-easy.com/images/funny-warning-signs-stupid-questions-160-160.gif 15:24 dafull97 http://pastebin.com/nj09SmeD 15:25 dafull97 PhilzAdam: ^^ 15:25 dafull97 be back in a few 15:25 diemartin just dafuq Logos 15:25 diemartin +is 15:26 PilzAdam dafull97, whoops, thats a typo; its register, not reigister 15:26 PilzAdam diemartin, textures, I guess 15:26 PilzAdam Jordach, I might use that as an avater ;-) 15:27 diemartin > avater 15:27 PilzAdam today: typo day! 15:27 Jordach plol 15:27 Jordach !op 15:28 * Jordach giggles 15:28 sfan5 heh 15:29 sfan5 "It seems—from their activity streams—that sfan5 and celeron55 are probably friends or at least virtual friends. " http://osrc.dfm.io/sfan5 15:29 PilzAdam seems like everyone is friends with celeron55 15:30 sfan5 yeah 15:34 Jordach ...who isnt 15:34 sfan5 plol 15:35 ShadowNinja Jordach: Transparency isn't working with the Sam II model. Is there a way to fix it or do you have a different model for blender renders? 15:35 Jordach ShadowNinja, umm 15:35 Jordach what are you doing exactly 15:35 kahrl Linus seems to speak only one programming language: C. Maybe it's about time for Linus to branch out a bit. 15:35 Jordach eg blender 15:35 ShadowNinja Jordach: Making a render with my skin. 15:36 Jordach ShadowNinja, throw me the skin then 15:36 * Jordach takes about 5 mins 15:36 Jordach anything specific (pose?) 15:36 ShadowNinja Isn't there a way for me to do it myself? 15:36 PilzAdam lol, "Linus is an epic sysadmin (one of the top 7% most active C users)" Im under the 4% of most active 15:37 Jordach ShadowNinja, subdivide the hat layer and remove faces that are alpha in game 15:37 Jordach eg (delete the black ones) 15:39 ShadowNinja Jordach: Thanks, done. 15:39 Jordach so the dubdivisions should be like this: http://i.imgur.com/z7hbFuj.png 15:39 Jordach sub* 15:40 diemartin tyop yad! \.D/ 15:40 Jordach ShadowNinja, result http://i.imgur.com/SEH3NuH.png 15:41 Jordach then just change the texture of the player's body (in the textures pane to the right) 15:42 * Jordach thinks OpenSpades 15:42 Jordach to ShadowNinja's 15:43 * sfan5 thinks porting Minetest 15:43 sfan5 to Android's 15:44 sfan5 :P 15:47 PilzAdam sfan5, do you really want to continue to port Minetest to phones? 15:47 sfan5 yes 15:47 PilzAdam I mean, you would be the only dev who can support it, so everyone will redirect all support questions to you 15:48 sfan5 I don't think there will be that many phone-specific support questions 15:51 Jordach hey Evergreen 15:51 Evergreen Hi 15:52 Evergreen Why are you "@Jordach"? 15:52 Jordach that better 15:54 harrison sfan5: don't listen to the h8rs they are only jealous of you 15:54 sfan5 heh 15:54 harrison port away i say 15:55 harrison PilzAdam must have had a potion of irritability this morning 15:55 * harrison suddenly jets away in a cloud of ink 16:00 ShadowNinja Jordach: Is there a way to make the rendered image use transparency within plender? 16:01 * harrison flashes its chromatophores wryly 16:02 Jordach ShadowNinja, iirc, nope 16:02 Jordach you'll just have to subdivide every damn hat layer 16:02 Jordach (in fact that's how i make my hat layers) 16:03 ShadowNinja Jordach: No, I mean can the rendered image have a transparent background, rather than the default grey. 16:03 Jordach ShadowNinja, yes 16:04 Jordach lemme try to remember 16:07 Jordach ShadowNinja, see image options here: http://i.imgur.com/0FyPK2e.png 16:07 Jordach notice RGBA is set for PNG 16:07 Jordach and Sky is set to transparent 16:07 Jordach (which gives a cube with a alpha bg) 16:11 ShadowNinja Jordach: How do I set a transparent sky? 16:11 Jordach you dont 16:11 Jordach don't change the colour of the sky goddamit 16:11 Jordach there are two settings in the render pane 16:12 Jordach Under shading, change Alpha to "Transparent" then change the PNG mode from RGB to RGBA 16:12 Jordach (RGBA = ALPHA CHANNEL.) 16:12 ShadowNinja Jordach: Ah, thanks. 16:19 Jordach thexyz, you really need to fix the forum's HTTPS cert 16:19 PilzAdam there is nothing wrong with the certificate 16:20 thexyz okay, let's see 16:21 thexyz Jordach: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=forum.minetest.net 16:21 MarkTwain Hello 16:21 Jordach thexyz, forums.minetest.net drops some strange issues on mobile devices 16:21 thexyz wat i fix should? 16:22 Jordach and most places with proxies do no allow damaged https 16:22 thexyz this is untrue since it works on my Android smartphone and it's a mobile device 16:22 Jordach thexyz, well my browser says it's broken, should you accept 16:22 thexyz so be more specific 16:22 thexyz "my browser" 16:22 thexyz "places with proxies" 16:22 thexyz "mobile devices" 16:23 thexyz is not what I call being specific 16:23 Jordach https://community.qualys.com/blogs/securitylabs/2013/03/19/rc4-in-tls-is-broken-now-what 16:23 thexyz yes, I know that RC4 is broken, but that's not related to your issue 16:24 thexyz the only issue could be SNI, okay, I could order additional IP for forum.minetest.net, that's not a problem 16:24 thexyz but then faggo^Wpeople will complain it doesn't work with Hamachi because Hetzner probably will give me IP from 5.x.x.x subnet 16:25 sfan5 hamachi now uses 25.0.0.0/8 16:25 thexyz okay, I'll order one additional IP then 16:25 sfan5 :-/ 16:26 sfan5 my android phone doesn't have enough space left for minetest 16:26 Jordach awww 16:27 thexyz sfan5: are you compiling minetest for android again? 16:27 sfan5 well 16:27 sfan5 I got irrlicht to wrok 16:27 sfan5 *work 16:27 sfan5 and now I got a libminetest.so that should work 16:27 Jordach thexyz, according to my mobile device: cert not founmd 16:27 sfan5 but I can't test it 16:27 Jordach found* 16:27 Jordach the subject is also unknown 16:27 thexyz cert not what 16:27 thexyz this is still unclear 16:27 thexyz at least send a photo or something 16:32 Jordach thexyz, http://imgur.com/a/1qrrO 16:33 thexyz Minetest wikipedia page was deleted more than a year ago 16:33 thexyz Jordach: what's the phone model? 16:33 Jordach thexyz, Nintendo 3DS 16:33 Jordach stock software as of latest rev. 16:33 thexyz > hey ssl on your site doesn't work well with my microwave 16:34 thexyz okay 16:34 * Jordach thinks the 3DS checks in one place not multiple 16:34 thexyz I'll put a red warning somewhere some day "Nintendo 3DS is not supported" 16:34 Jordach thexyz, i can accept it and shits fine 16:35 Jordach i do get cert issue date and expiry date 16:35 Jordach (which for a non existant cert, is damn amazing) 16:35 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Can you please merge some minetest_game pulls like Sam II? Many of them are simple fixes that you won't need any approval for. 16:35 thexyz that's why I say "not supported", you're on your own so don't complain 16:35 Jordach ShadowNinja, you mean capes 16:35 Jordach that includes the Sam II pull 16:35 ShadowNinja Jordach: Sam III then, it includes Sam II. 16:36 Jordach lololol 16:36 ShadowNinja It would only be capse if Sam II was already merged. 16:36 ShadowNinja capes* 16:37 Jordach ShadowNinja, i added capes alongside Sam II, making it a double pull 16:38 Menche the pull for better tiling grass is a definite improvement 16:38 ShadowNinja Merge it, whatever it is. 16:38 ShadowNinja I agree with Menche. 16:38 Jordach btw: I am going to be making a testing server soon 16:38 Menche and the improved gravel is too 16:38 Jordach it includes MY animatics model (fitted to the games animations) 16:41 ShadowNinja sfan5: ^ Can you? 16:41 Jordach these minetest_game pulls are waiting to be merged] 16:41 Jordach -] 16:41 sfan5 maybe 16:42 Jordach you're as bas as PilzAdam when you say maybe 16:44 Jordach !up 81.153.28.202 16:44 MinetestBot 81.153.28.202:30000 seems to be down 16:44 Jordach cmon MinetestBot, get it right 16:45 * harrison is easily confused by modern DVCS s 16:45 * harrison suddenly jets away in a cloud of ink 16:46 Jordach !up 81.153.28.202 16:46 MinetestBot 81.153.28.202:30000 seems to be down 16:47 MinetestBot blackha.wk:30000 seems to be down 16:47 Jordach if anyone wants to give that IP a go, it is running sfan5's and nore's MG 16:48 Jordach sfan5, attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'z' (a nil value) 17:02 DanDuncombe WHat is the function to print something to chat? 17:03 DanDuncombe Never mind 17:03 Jordach plo 17:03 Jordach plol* 17:04 thexyz !dev chat_send_all 17:04 thexyz okay 17:04 MinetestBot Hey john_minetest. 17:05 ShadowNinja john_minetest: Implemented only in ShadowBot. 17:06 ShadowNinja ~rtfm 17:06 ShadowBot Read the friendly manual. See http://dev.minetest.net, http://git.io/olBD2w, and http://git.io/5COZ7A. 17:06 Menche why do we need both? 17:06 Jordach sup MinetestBot 17:07 Jordach no? 17:07 thexyz because one is not enough 17:08 thexyz ~help 17:08 DanDuncombe What is wrong with this? http://pastebin.com/CtwxusWV 17:08 sfan5 Jordach: which line? 17:09 sfan5 john_minetest: goddamnit yes 17:09 Jordach line 2 apparently 17:09 thexyz DanDuncombe: last ) on the first line 17:09 DanDuncombe Thanks 17:09 thexyz also, everything else 17:09 Menche that ) should be on the last line, enclosing the entire function definition 17:09 DanDuncombe Nope,still throws error 17:09 DanDuncombe Never mind,it works now 17:10 thexyz ShadowNinja: how do I get list of commands your bot supports? 17:10 sfan5 ShadowBot: help 17:10 GNADev|zRokh ih thexyz 17:10 sfan5 :-/ 17:10 GNADev|zRokh ym mane is ton sfan5 17:10 GNADev|zRokh :P 17:10 sfan5 thexyz: /msg ShadowBot help 17:10 DanDuncombe How would I get the player's location? 17:11 thexyz sfan5: hey, I'm not that stupid 17:11 DanDuncombe So it is like: Dan died at 123,2,124 17:11 sfan5 no? :P 17:11 GNADev|zRokh hey, sfan5, could this idea work: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=112170#p112170 17:11 thexyz sfan5: you better not think everyone is stupid and test things before saying they work 17:11 GNADev|zRokh its an idea how to make a hand texture for every player 17:11 GNADev|zRokh thexyz, what are you talking about? what did i miss? 17:11 sfan5 thexyz: I did test it but... 17:12 thexyz sfan5: this bot is not really friendly/helpful https://gist.github.com/xyzz/0d3a5bf6a5bcd3e9bd3a 17:12 GNADev|zRokh thexyz, sfan5 is not answering, i thing he's sleeping... check this idea: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=112170#p112170 17:13 DanDuncombe That is,what is the function to get the player location, ie what goes after local place = 17:13 GNADev|zRokh Dan, wait 17:13 thexyz GNADev|zRokh: you can't do that 17:13 GNADev|zRokh why? 17:14 thexyz because every player gets the same hand definition 17:14 sfan5 thexyz: try "list" and "list ", yes the ignoring thing is annyoing 17:14 sfan5 annoying* 17:14 GNADev|zRokh PilzAdam did some thing where players can have different textures... so why cant the hand do the same? 17:14 CraigyDavi Would anyone know where I could download this version of minetest: 0.4.7 minetest v6. Would I just download the developing version off github? 17:14 GNADev|zRokh Dan, i can't see anything that would do that in the api.... 17:14 GNADev|zRokh sorry 17:15 thexyz GNADev|zRokh: because of how it's implemented 17:15 GNADev|zRokh oh... well is it possible via C++ tweaking? 17:15 sfan5 CraigyDavi: that looks live a serverlist entry, it's format is like this: ; this means it is just 0.4.7 17:15 sfan5 GNADev|zRokh: if you would change the engine code everything is possible 17:15 GNADev|zRokh no, no, no... 17:15 CraigyDavi oh okay so I can't download minetest-dev from anywhere? 17:15 GNADev|zRokh there is a limit 17:16 GNADev|zRokh Your Imagination 17:16 GNADev|zRokh and skills, of course :D 17:16 sfan5 CraigyDavi: what is "minetest-dev" 17:16 nanomo PilzAdam: im back 17:16 sfan5 GNADev|zRokh: you get what I wanted to tell you.. 17:16 CraigyDavi like on some servers they say they are running minetest 0.4.7-dev 17:16 GNADev|zRokh yeah, pretty much... but hey, sfan5, could you teach me basic c++? 17:16 GNADev|zRokh in /query 17:17 sfan5 GNADev|zRokh: what about asking google first? 17:17 GNADev|zRokh ok :P 17:17 GNADev|zRokh is MTBot ignoring me? 17:17 sfan5 dunno 17:17 GNADev|zRokh nope 17:17 GNADev|zRokh i pm'd it 17:17 GNADev|zRokh him* 17:17 sfan5 john_minetest: I currently can't add the commands because my VPS is unstable 17:17 sfan5 her* 17:17 diemartin her* 17:18 * sfan5 was faster 17:18 nanomo guys im creating a minetest server in windows 2003, after starting the mintest.exe only shows a cmd screen and close it at a second 17:18 thexyz okay, we have no "remind" command 17:18 diemartin D: 17:18 diemartin hey CraigyDavi 17:18 thexyz but we have those crc32, b64 and other VERY USEFUL stuff 17:18 thexyz how nice is that 17:19 GNADev|zRokh namino 17:19 sfan5 b64 may actually be useful 17:19 GNADev|zRokh lets query, i know whats the problem 17:19 thexyz no it is not 17:19 CraigyDavi hey diemartin 17:19 sfan5 what is !remind supposed to do? 17:20 GNADev|zRokh nanomo, ill pm you 17:20 GNADev|zRokh i know whats the prob. 17:20 sfan5 GNADev|zRokh: why would you want to pm him/her? 17:20 sfan5 don't you want us to see the solution? 17:20 GNADev|zRokh because (s)he wants to know why the server doesnt start 17:20 diemartin CraigyDavi, just download one of the latest Win builds (BlockMen, sfan, Pilz Adam) 17:20 GNADev|zRokh and i have had a server :P 17:21 sfan5 that is not a reason for talking private about the problem 17:21 thexyz sfan5: remind someone to do something, so that when that someone enters IRC (and maybe says something) he's getting spammed with those reminders 17:21 thexyz very useful 17:21 thexyz could be called "tell" as well 17:21 sfan5 nanomo: you need to start the server with parameters like "--world C:\path\to\your\world\" 17:21 diemartin thexyz, memoserv? 17:21 GNADev|zRokh sfan5, >:O 17:21 CraigyDavi diemartin: okay I will do. Would they work well on x64 windows 8 ? which one would be best? 17:21 sfan5 thexyz: indeed--- the default phenny bot has tell.py 17:21 GNADev|zRokh WTF?! 17:22 thexyz for example, "~remind iqualfragile mt mod database is broken" 17:22 sfan5 ^ heh 17:22 GNADev|zRokh --remind GNADev|zRokh asdf 17:22 GNADev|zRokh what does it do? 17:22 nanomo guys im creating a minetest server in windows 2003, after starting the mintest.exe only shows a cmd screen and close it at a second 17:22 thexyz diemartin: no one is going to notice memoserv notification 17:22 thexyz also, don't want to depend on freenode 17:22 sfan5 CraigyDavi: yes, 32bit builds (like mine) work on 64bit 17:22 GNADev|zRokh nanomo, check your PM 17:22 sfan5 nanomo: you need to start the server with parameters like "--world C:\path\to\your\world\" 17:22 GNADev|zRokh im helping 17:22 DanDuncombe Okay, what is wrong with this? Gives the starter kit, but doesn't say the chat message 17:22 thexyz because it sucks =( 17:22 diemartin thexyz, k 17:23 sfan5 n4x: also don't repeat your question so often 17:23 GNADev|zRokh SFAN5, I WAS TRYING TO HELP HIM, thank you very much... >:O 17:23 sfan5 oops 17:23 sfan5 nanomo: also don't repeat your question so often 17:23 thexyz also, I love how freenode while having "free" in its name is not actually "free" 17:23 DanDuncombe http://pastebin.com/VSfZBEYz 17:23 DanDuncombe IDK What I did wrong 17:23 sfan5 GNADev|zRokh: oh didn't notice that you are able to tell me whether to help people or not 17:24 GNADev|zRokh thexyz, free nodes... :D 17:24 sfan5 DanDuncombe: compare that to the code of the give_initial_stuff mod 17:24 diemartin > local playernew = player:get_player_name (pos) 17:24 CraigyDavi would there be any build which has server support like fess's build's which had a server tab on main menu. 17:24 DanDuncombe The give initial_stuff mod doesn't have the chat message thing 17:25 sfan5 CraigyDavi: all recent builds have a "server" tab 17:25 CraigyDavi great! 17:26 sfan5 DanDuncombe: what does you code do step by step? (I mean like assigning variables and calling functions not, "It gives stuff to the player") 17:26 sfan5 s/not,/,not/ 17:26 DanDuncombe It is just what I pastebinned 17:26 CraigyDavi If I were to use a specific build as a server would the person playing in it have to have the same one or something? 17:27 sfan5 DanDuncombe: explain to me what line 2 does and what line 4 does 17:27 DanDuncombe It gets the playername,sends the chat message including it, then adds stuff to inventory of the player 17:27 sfan5 CraigyDavi: no 17:28 sfan5 DanDuncombe: just line 2 and line 4 on the level of lua (e.g. calls function "foobar", assigns 42 to variable named "kitten") 17:29 DanDuncombe Line 2 gets the player name, line 4 gives them a stone pick 17:29 sfan5 "on the level of lua" 17:29 sfan5 do you understand? 17:29 sfan5 I even gave examples 17:29 CraigyDavi thanks 17:29 sfan5 DanDuncombe: try again 17:29 DanDuncombe No idea, I am confused 17:30 GNADev|zRokh sfan5, nanomo needs ur help 17:30 GNADev|zRokh i cant help him 17:30 sfan5 Line 2 assigns the player object to a variable named "playernew"; Line 4 calls the get_inventory function of the "player" variable and [...] 17:30 sfan5 DanDuncombe: ^ do you see it? 17:30 nanomo thanks GNADev|zRokh 17:30 DanDuncombe I am confused 17:30 GNADev|zRokh np :P 17:31 sfan5 DanDuncombe: read that 2 sentences 17:31 sfan5 read them 17:31 DanDuncombe Something about foobar and 42 kittens 17:31 sfan5 no 17:31 sfan5 <sfan5> Line 2 assigns the player object to a variable named "playernew"; Line 4 calls the get_inventory function of the "player" variable and [...] 17:31 sfan5 that 17:31 sfan5 only that 17:31 sfan5 (I'm trying to help you w/o just telling you the solution) 17:32 DanDuncombe Well, I am really confused now 17:32 sfan5 just read the 2 sentences 17:32 DanDuncombe Seriously, IDK what I am supposed to gain from them 17:32 nanomo sfan5: i had no world folder i downloaded the files from http://minetest.ru/builds/minetest-0.4.7.zip then try to open /bin/minetest.exe and a cmd windows it's displayer for a second and after it closes 17:32 sfan5 you didn't read them closely 17:33 sfan5 I'll try a more obivous thing 17:33 DanDuncombe oK 17:33 DanDuncombe Obivous? 17:33 sfan5 Line 2 assigns the variable "playernew"; Line 4 uses the variable "player" 17:33 sfan5 obvious* 17:33 sfan5 read that 17:33 DanDuncombe Really? 17:33 sfan5 nanomo: are you trying to make a server? 17:33 DanDuncombe Line 4 has nothing to do with the local value though 17:34 DanDuncombe It works without it, it is the chat message thatwon't send 17:34 nanomo sfan5: yes, i have onlye a vps with windows 2003 to try 17:34 sfan5 nanomo: you need to use minetestserver.exe 17:35 sfan5 DanDuncombe: wait... "" player:get_player_name (pos) "" what does this do? 17:35 DanDuncombe Gets the player name for the variable playernew 17:35 nanomo that exe isn't in the files fom http://minetest.ru/builds/minetest-0.4.7.zip where can i download the server files? 17:35 sfan5 what does "pos" do? 17:35 DanDuncombe IDK 17:35 DanDuncombe Gets the pos? 17:35 sfan5 no 17:36 sfan5 it tries to use the pos var. which is not there 17:36 DanDuncombe Ok 17:36 DanDuncombe So what do I do? 17:36 rubenwardy adding "*" to the ignore list is fun! 17:36 sfan5 :get_player_name doesn't need an arg 17:36 sfan5 nanomo: .. 17:36 sfan5 try "minetest.exe --server" 17:36 rubenwardy GNADev|zRokh: type /ignore * 17:36 nanomo sfan5: i do that and then nothing happens 17:36 GNADev|zRokh why? 17:37 rubenwardy It improves your irc experience 17:37 DanDuncombe So minetest.chat_send_all("Giving "..player:get_player_name (pos).. " starter kit!") 17:37 GNADev|zRokh i know what /ignore and * (wildcard) does... 17:37 GNADev|zRokh * == all 17:37 GNADev|zRokh and /ignore == ignore 17:37 sfan5 nanomo: you need to do it like this "minetest.exe --server --world " 17:37 GNADev|zRokh thus i would ignore all :D 17:38 sfan5 DanDuncombe: what does the "pos" do in that context? 17:38 DanDuncombe IDK 17:38 sfan5 please look up the docs of get_player_name() and tell me what arguments it needs 17:38 nanomo sfan5: i do that too before GNADev|zRokh make me doit but i don't have any folder called world in the root of my files 17:39 DanDuncombe Needs no arguments 17:39 sfan5 nanomo: .. simply do "minetest.exe --server --world world" 17:39 sfan5 DanDuncombe: so what do you do with the "pos" now? 17:39 DanDuncombe Get rif of it 17:39 sfan5 ^ exactly 17:40 nanomo sfan5: nothing happens again 17:40 DanDuncombe I still get no chat message 17:41 sfan5 nanomo: what does "minetest.exe --help" do? 17:42 sfan5 DanDuncombe: what code do you have now? 17:42 nanomo sfan5: nothing :( C:\Documents and Settings\Administrador\Escritorio\nanomo-no-borrar\minetest-0.4 .7\minetest-0.4.7\bin>minetest.exe -help C:\Documents and Settings\Administrador\Escritorio\nanomo-no-borrar\minetest-0.4 .7\minetest-0.4.7\bin> 17:42 nanomo sfan5: only returns the prompt 17:43 sfan5 nanomo: not - but -- 17:43 nanomo sfan5: yes i tried both just pasted the last i tried :D 17:43 DanDuncombe http://pastebin.com/PGa8CpRZ 17:43 sfan5 what happens if you just run "minetest.exe" 17:44 GNADev|zRokh it doesnt start 17:44 GNADev|zRokh opens then closes 17:44 sfan5 DanDuncombe: didn't you want to get rid of "pos" ? 17:44 nanomo if i run with double click only shows a cmd and close that windows and nothing else 17:44 DanDuncombe Oh yeah, sorry, I did, but it still didn't work 17:44 nanomo if i run alone from cmd nothing its showed 17:44 * Jordach bets five bucks that MSVC++ 2010 DIST is missing 17:45 sfan5 nanomo: something is wrong with your windows system 17:45 nanomo will check thanks Jordach 17:45 sfan5 DanDuncombe: look up every part in the docs and see if everything is right 17:45 DanDuncombe Ok 17:48 GNADev|zRokh question: is it possible to replace blocks from * to default:air and in a 5 block radius? 17:49 rubenwardy Have you looked in the FAQ? 17:50 rubenwardy The bit after minetest not responding? 17:50 * Jordach waits 2 years 17:50 rubenwardy !j 17:50 Jordach MicroTorrent is saying 2d 4h on a 90mb torrent 17:50 nanomo sfan5: Jordach installed VC++ 2010 and nothing happens :(, it's a windows 2003 with other games installed like killing floor server and its working, what other requirments are for minetest? 17:50 rubenwardy "If it stops working before the main window even opens, and there are no error messages in debug.txt, then try restarting your computer. 17:50 rubenwardy (sometimes it crashes with a 0x00005 error, which is caused by windows updates.)" 17:51 nanomo there is no crash onlye the cmd its closed the gui never is showed 17:51 * dafull97 has arrived 17:51 sfan5 time to clone the whole ducking linux source tree again 17:51 rubenwardy Windows? 17:51 nanomo there is no debug.txt anywhere 17:51 nanomo yes, 2003 17:52 dafull97 nanomo, what is the problem? 17:52 dafull97 i just setup my own server and got help ALOT 17:52 dafull97 so i could help you 17:54 nanomo dafull97: thanks, i had a win2003 and after i tried to start minetest.exe nothing happens onlye a cmd splash for a second if i double clic in minetest.exe, the sames files are working on my windows7 laptop, i installed VC++2010 with the same results 17:54 DanDuncombe What would I put in the gap to make the player die? http://pastebin.com/W2x1ScLF 17:55 dafull97 ok, have you uninstalled and reinstalled? 17:56 nanomo im running the stand alone files http://minetest.ru/builds/minetest-0.4.7.zip 17:56 * VanessaE is back (yay.) 17:56 * dafull97 Is gald VanessaE is back =D 17:56 dafull97 opps, Glad 17:56 dafull97 haha 17:57 dafull97 Do you know where you extracted the files? 17:57 DanDuncombe VanessaE, do you know what to put in the gap to kill the player? 17:57 VanessaE in what gap? 17:57 VanessaE oh 17:57 VanessaE eh, not really 17:57 VanessaE just reduce their health by 20, that'll kill them 17:57 nanomo dafull97: if i install from setup i have the same results 17:58 DanDuncombe VanessaE, what do I put in the gap to reduce their health by 20? 17:58 dafull97 nanomo: Where did you extract the zip? 17:58 VanessaE I don't know off the top of my head 17:59 nanomo c:\Minetest 18:00 proller п ы 18:00 proller srry 18:00 GNADev|zRokh whats poe? 18:00 dafull97 delete the whole minetest file and re unzip and try it 18:00 GNADev|zRokh i know russian :D 18:00 GNADev|zRokh п ы == p õ 18:01 dafull97 How are you VanessaE? 18:02 VanessaE tired 18:02 proller its my "g u" shortcut 18:02 dafull97 oh, that sucks 18:02 proller with wrong layout and wrong window 18:02 nanomo i do that, and eveninstalled from the setup, get the same results 18:02 dafull97 is PilzAdam in chat? 18:03 dafull97 nanomo, do you have TeamViewer? 18:03 nanomo no i have remote desktop 18:03 dafull97 could i connect to you? be alot easier... then you can watch how to fix for next tiem 18:03 dafull97 time* 18:05 nanomo dafull97: check yout PM 18:05 dafull97 i c 18:05 * GNADev|zRokh is installing google chrome on linux 18:10 DanDuncombe Is VanessaE still here? 18:10 VanessaE no 18:10 VanessaE I'm THERE ------------------------> 18:10 DanDuncombe Did you see the PM thingy? 18:10 DanDuncombe ABout a mod request for your server? On IRC I mean 18:11 VanessaE what is it> 18:11 DanDuncombe It is lightweight and doesn't add any nodes or tools or entities 18:11 VanessaE I see the msg 18:11 DanDuncombe IT just says playername has died! 18:11 DanDuncombe Substituting playername for the actual player name 18:12 VanessaE ahh 18:12 DanDuncombe I spent all of 5 minutes making it 18:12 DanDuncombe Is too macabre to know when someone dies on the server? 18:13 DanDuncombe I am not spamming either 18:13 VanessaE actually no, that's a good idea 18:13 DanDuncombe Thanks, I don't think it already does it 18:13 VanessaE In fact if you wanna take it one step further, you might try to detect if a player died by falling, and print something cute like "AIIIIIIII!!!!! xxxxx fell to his/her death." 18:14 VanessaE AIIIIEE! rather 18:14 thefamilygrog66 ^^^ Needs more profanity. 18:14 DanDuncombe IDK how I would do that, if even possible 18:14 GNADev|zRokh VanessaE, define node boxes... its not for me, its for a friends but idk how to describe it 18:15 VanessaE can you put it on github plz? or any git side at all, I don't care which... so my automated mod update script can catch it 18:15 DanDuncombe How about: "OMFG! just died! OMG! They are DEAD! ARRRGH!" 18:15 VanessaE lol 18:15 VanessaE no :) 18:15 DanDuncombe I will keep it on dropbox because I am not gonna make any updates 18:15 thefamilygrog66 boxes which define a shape of a node 18:15 DanDuncombe I will just leave it 18:16 DanDuncombe Nodebox: A table of numbers which define a special rectangle-based shape for custom block shapes. 18:16 DanDuncombe So basically blender but with rectangles 18:17 DanDuncombe afk 18:17 thefamilygrog66 BEANS! https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=112175#p112175 18:22 dafull97 nanomo: Check PM 18:24 thefamilygrog66 Is it just me, or is it ironic that github is way easier to use with windows? 18:25 GNADev|zRokh hey, who knows artur99? 18:32 Jordach nobody 18:34 zat Some core devel here? 18:34 Jordach thefamilygrog66, use 16px textures you bastard 18:35 * Jordach is tired of mods supplying non 16x textures 18:35 thefamilygrog66 wah wah 18:35 Jordach and 18:35 Jordach i just find it almost IMPOSSIBLE TO TEXTURE MODS that USE IT 18:35 Jordach ^ DanDuncombe 18:37 thefamilygrog66 Jordach, do you mean you find it hard to write your own textures for other folks' mods that are 64x? I'm a bit confused. 18:38 Jordach thefamilygrog66, it's when i'm working on a pure 16x pack, shit just gets out of hand 18:38 Jordach do i have to write something like android developer guidelines for texturing 18:38 thefamilygrog66 ahh, 16x OCD, I get it 18:39 Jordach here's a handy hint: 64px textures can be overlaid on a 16px, but not the other way around 18:39 Jordach (eg, you can make the asphalt all 16x and have the road markings 64) 18:39 Jordach by just using the ore overlay method 18:39 thefamilygrog66 btw, this is the first mod I've made which isn't 16px 18:39 DanDuncombe texture.png^annuva_texture.png 18:40 VanessaE don't the larger textures get cropped? 18:40 GNADev|zRokh who knows why he likes trains? 18:40 DanDuncombe Yes, they get weirdified 18:40 GNADev|zRokh because his uncle raped him in one 18:40 GNADev|zRokh asdfmovie2 :D 18:41 DanDuncombe So VanessaE, your are gonna install the death_name mod? 18:41 thefamilygrog66 how's the non sequiturs treating ya? 18:41 VanessaE did you get where I suggested it go on github or similar? 18:41 DanDuncombe But I am not going to do any updates to it 18:42 DanDuncombe And will delete it withing the week 18:42 VanessaE why delete it? 18:43 DanDuncombe Because I don't need it 18:43 DanDuncombe afk 18:47 GNADev|zRokh Russia fires the missles "AAHHH, MOTHERLAND!" 18:47 DanDuncombe At where? 18:47 GNADev|zRokh :S 18:47 GNADev|zRokh idk 18:48 GNADev|zRokh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCpjgl2baLs 18:48 GNADev|zRokh !title 18:48 MinetestBot GNADev|zRokh: The End of the World - YouTube 18:48 DanDuncombe At some place 18:48 GNADev|zRokh WTF??^^ 18:49 thefamilygrog66 Jordach, a 16px bean looks like shite. 18:49 thefamilygrog66 Just saying. 18:50 GNADev|zRokh California will break off of the US... to hang with Hawaii... Alaska can come too... 18:56 GNADev|zRokh My girlfriend's age is... 55 18:56 GNADev|zRokh My IQ is... 55 18:56 GNADev|zRokh xD 18:57 Calinou so you're your girlfriend! 18:57 prestotron55 [deleted] 18:57 Calinou hi prestotron55 :) 18:57 Calinou good luck :P 18:58 prestotron55 [deleted] 18:58 GNADev|zRokh Celeron55, prestotron55 :D 18:58 prestotron55 [deleted] 18:59 GNADev|zRokh http://youtu.be/kFF3pVOHtoA?t=40s 18:59 thefamilygrog66 !title 18:59 MinetestBot thefamilygrog66: Schfifty Five (with MP3 ♫) - YouTube 18:59 prestotron55 [deleted] 19:02 * thefamilygrog66 is making strictly 64px textures from now on 19:02 prestotron55 [deleted] 19:03 proller noobing every minute. 19:03 proller prestotron55, minute finished, you must write some shit here 19:04 prestotron55 [deleted] 19:05 proller and what length of your... ? 19:05 GNADev|zRokh Birds and the Bees (since you're gay, the Bees and the Bees) 19:06 proller smart peoples newer write "I'm not stupid" 19:06 prestotron55 [deleted] 19:06 prestotron55 [deleted] 19:08 * zat senses arrogance is getting dense over here 19:08 prestotron55 [deleted] 19:08 * Calinou bites zat 19:09 GNADev|zRokh Spyro = Spy + Pyro 19:09 prestotron55 [deleted] 19:09 * prestotron55 doesn't know why an 11 year old picks on him.. 19:09 Jordach OI proller prestotron55 IS ABOUT 19:09 zat >///< 19:09 Jordach 19:11 GNADev|zRokh Beer is good for you, Yes, it's true... <:3 19:11 prestotron55 [deleted] 19:11 prestotron55 [deleted] 19:11 prestotron55 [deleted] 19:11 Jordach bullshit 19:11 * Jordach loves Orange Juice 19:12 GNADev|zRokh Not as good as sex, but it's better then jail... 19:12 Jordach shut it GNADev|zRokh 19:12 prestotron55 [deleted] 19:12 Jordach Vitamin C fights scurvy 19:12 Evergreen Imo, age has little to do with maturity. Take 23 year old COD players for example, they aren't much better than an ignorant 11 year old 19:12 * Jordach high fives Evergreen 19:13 prestotron55 [deleted] 19:14 * prestotron55 needs to buy more servers for SocialSwim(site keeps going down) 19:14 diemartin Jordach, you need more Vitamin C++ 19:14 * diemartin hides 19:14 VanessaE bbl 19:14 prestotron55 [deleted] 19:19 GNADev|zRokh VanessaE, do you know what time it is? 19:19 GNADev|zRokh Peanut Butter Jelly Time! 19:20 * Jordach plols at diemartin 19:20 Jordach GNADev|zRokh, shush 19:21 GNADev|zRokh ok 19:21 Jordach you get wayyy too offtopic 19:21 Jordach err what 19:22 Jordach > I was flying around in my U.F.O. 19:22 Jordach how is that on the front page 19:23 dafull97 PilzAdam: you here? 19:24 PilzAdam yes 19:24 dafull97 cool, so my problem i send you the link to pastebin, did you look at it? 19:24 PilzAdam I already answered that, didnt Iß 19:24 PilzAdam *? 19:24 PilzAdam read the log 19:25 diemartin aww crap 19:25 diemartin !sfu kaeza 19:25 MinetestBot kaeza Member 1,338 posts, registered on 2012-10-18 | id: 3279 19:25 diemartin close enough 19:25 dafull97 ok, will do thanks 19:25 dafull97 i had get off so sorry... 19:28 dafull97 PilzAdam: read logs, thanks 19:28 prestotron55 [deleted] 19:28 Jordach ^ wtf 19:28 GNADev|zRokh Jordach, do you love Boxxy? 19:28 PilzAdam Jordach, thats the result of not using your brain 19:28 jojoa1997 what is 19:29 Jordach and what's that related to minetest GNADev|zRokh 19:29 Jordach you're making my internal kick that guy counter go nuts 19:30 * PilzAdam votes for muting prestotron55 for advertising his shitty size 19:30 PilzAdam *site 19:30 thefamilygrog66 hey 0gb 19:30 us`0gb Hello, thefamilygrog66! 19:31 * prestotron55 votes for PilzAdam to stop putting stops to something I havent done yet. 19:31 * prestotron55 also votes for PilzAdam to stop advertising Minetest xD 19:31 us`0gb What is he trying to stop you from doing? 19:31 GNADev|zRokh who knows Boxxy? 19:31 * Jordach wonders if !kick does multiple nicks 19:32 prestotron55 [deleted] 19:32 * dafull97 needs help with Farming Plus mod 19:32 Jordach why do people have to reinvent the wheel 19:32 us`0gb By the way, I saw your site was down yesterday. 19:32 GNADev|zRokh LEEEROYYY Jenkins!!!!! 19:32 prestotron55 [deleted] 19:32 * GNADev|zRokh discovered KnowYourMeme :D 19:32 us`0gb Jordach, proprietary software is all about reinventing the wheel. 19:32 Jordach shut it GNADev|zRokh 19:33 Jordach ignore never cuts it with you 19:33 * us`0gb doesn't have any memes to know 19:33 Jordach i dont want other people to suffer 19:33 prestotron55 [deleted] 19:34 * prestotron55 observed nobody plays Crevis 19:34 Jordach > crevis 19:35 Jordach > fail 19:35 Jordach two words 19:35 Jordach that mean the same thing 19:35 * us`0gb fails to know what Crevis is 19:35 prestotron55 [deleted] 19:35 Jordach us`0gb, dont bother 19:35 us`0gb Don't bother with what, Jordach? 19:35 prestotron55 [deleted] 19:35 GNADev|zRokh hey, i have a question... why can't i use Torrents on linux while using a mobile connection? 19:35 prestotron55 [deleted] 19:35 Jordach shut it GNADev|zRokh, take it to # 19:36 prestotron55 [deleted] 19:36 us`0gb Meh. We ripped of a game that in turn ripped off another game. Why shouldn't someone build of of our game as well? 19:36 Jordach and most Telco's don't like tethering 19:36 Jordach not to mention they will terminate your phone contract / SIM 19:36 dafull97 PilzAdam: Did you make the Farmingplus mod? 19:36 prestotron55 [deleted] 19:36 us`0gb *off 19:37 PilzAdam yes 19:37 dafull97 can you helpme again? LOL 19:38 dafull97 here is what output is, haha looks like a Code error, but i dont want to mess it up.... 19:39 dafull97 http://pastebin.com/u8iNGs0i 19:40 zat I am building minetest on ~/minetest-src, how would you make it output all files of a run-in-place config to, say, ~/minetest-out? 19:44 Jordach copy-paste 19:44 dafull97 PilzAdam: you there? 19:45 zat Jordach: sure, I bet you copy-paste to your install prefix as well... or copy-paste when checkouting on git outside the source tree. 19:45 PilzAdam dafull97, the code seems to be corrupted, redownload 19:46 Jordach zat, i assumed you were meaning generating a /bin/ folder somewhere 19:46 Jordach else* 19:46 dafull97 ok, that sucks :( 19:46 dafull97 what do i name to? 19:46 zat Jordach: It is generating all directories somewhere else, the thing is that I want to automate it. 19:47 Jordach when building run_in_place=1 it builds in the same directory 19:47 Jordach so minetest-src/bin/ 19:47 Jordach is where the binary is produced 19:47 zat The game is not made of a single binary. 19:48 Jordach zat, if you move the binaries, you need to move the other stuff as well 19:48 ShadowNinja thexyz: It won't respond to commands in this channel because MinetestBot is here. You will have to use a PM. The "list" command will list it's plugins and "list " will list the commands that that plugin adds. 19:48 prestotron55 [deleted] 19:48 zat Jordach: that is precisely what I am asking about. 19:48 Jordach zat, very possible with bash 19:49 thexyz ShadowNinja: yes, I've figured it out already 19:49 zat If you don’t know how to do it, please let someone else help, thanks. 19:52 thexyz zat: it's not very clear what do you want but I'll assume you need something like "-DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/xyz/minetest/out" then "make install" 19:53 zat That is precisely what I was looking for, you guessed right, thanks thexyz. 20:02 dafull97 PilzAdam, do i rename after download? 20:05 thefamilygrog66 dafull97, the folder should be named farmingplus, I believe 20:10 dafull97 thefamilygrog66 thanks, being sure :) 20:11 thefamilygrog66 no problem - github likes to add things like "-master" to the folder names, etc. 20:11 dafull97 yes, i noticed... i hate that 20:11 * dafull97 dont like githubs folder names 20:11 us`0gb I hate it too. 20:12 dafull97 Lol, Agrees 20:12 dafull97 so question 20:12 us`0gb That's why I put the root directory of my projects within another directory, so GitHub won't rename the inner one. 20:12 dafull97 could i run multiple minetest servers on a computer through different ports 20:12 us`0gb Which of course makes it easier for some people and harder for others. 20:13 us`0gb Yes you can. 20:13 dafull97 us `0gb i noticed that \... liked that 20:13 PilzAdam youtube keeps throwing 500s at me :-/ 20:13 PilzAdam "Sorry, something went wrong. 20:13 PilzAdam A team of highly trained monkeys has been dispatched to deal with this situation." 20:14 dafull97 500s ? 20:14 dafull97 ohh, haha 20:14 us`0gb I used to run a server on two ports, but now my server is too slow to even run it on one port well ... 20:14 us`0gb PilzAdam, the Google error messages are worse. They make Google look like a bunch of morons. 20:15 dafull97 one mine i only had 6 clients connected and stayed stabe around 90's and 110's ms 20:15 dafull97 stable* 20:16 PilzAdam dafull97, you do realize that I dont talk about pings? 20:16 us`0gb I'm trying to load the error page, but an .iso download is taking most of my bandwidth. 20:16 dafull97 Pilz 20:16 dafull97 PilzAdam, sorry... haha 20:16 us`0gb Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 20:17 us`0gb Really, Google? "!!1"? 20:17 dafull97 PilzAdam, what you mean? 20:17 us`0gb 404. That’s an error. 20:17 us`0gb The requested URL /errorpage was not found on this server. That’s all we know. 20:17 us`0gb DOesn't that sound like morons are talking to you? 20:18 * us`0gb is done ranting about Google's error pages for now 20:18 thexyz I was surprised about !!1 too 20:18 thexyz also, their support sucks 20:18 us`0gb I wasn't just surprised. I was (and still am) disgusted by it. 20:19 PilzAdam it seems like only the main page of youtube has gone crazy 20:19 PilzAdam everything else works 20:19 us`0gb Hmm. THat's odd. 20:19 PilzAdam john_minetest, thanks for repeating my copy and paste 20:20 thexyz when I try to download .epub version of book I bought in google play it gives me 404 error; I've contacted support 22 days ago, there were some replies but still no solution 20:20 thexyz good 20:20 thexyz ShadowBot: you are useful 20:20 thexyz I really want my DRM'ed book.. 20:22 dafull97 PilzAdam, farmingplus still not work ;/ 20:22 us`0gb dafull97, what other plugins are you using? 20:22 PilzAdam https://www.youtube.com/user/Gronkh/videos works 20:23 PilzAdam Im just watching that... 20:25 dafull97 us `0gb: currency, firearms, jail, mobs, farmingplus, landrush, rulespop-up, map tools, tnt 20:25 thefamilygrog66 why is there a github for windows, but not for linux? 20:25 dafull97 Output: http://pastebin.com/w6Mpn5fG 20:25 PilzAdam thefamilygrog66, what? 20:25 PilzAdam dafull97, its farming_plus 20:25 PilzAdam not farmingplus 20:25 dafull97 that the prob? haha 20:26 thefamilygrog66 there's software one can download to neatly upload folders to github.com for windows, but linux doesn't have that luxury 20:26 us`0gb dafull97, check line /home/minetest/.minetest/mods/farmingplus/init.lua:171. 20:26 PilzAdam thefamilygrog66, I dont know what you are talking about 20:26 dafull97 want me count 171 lines? 20:26 PilzAdam git works fine in Linux 20:27 thefamilygrog66 it's all freaking command lines in linu 20:27 thefamilygrog66 *linux 20:27 us`0gb dafull97, open the file in Gedit. Make Gedit count the lines for you. 20:27 dafull97 oh, realy? 20:27 PilzAdam who wants to use git with a gui? thats plain stupid 20:27 dafull97 =D 20:27 us`0gb thefamilygrog66, I agree. We need more graphical methods for GNU/Linux. 20:28 us`0gb Who wants to use Git at all? 20:28 us`0gb Git is a pain. 20:28 thefamilygrog66 have you ever used it with a gui, PilzAdam? cause it's way easier, man 20:29 PilzAdam there are GUI frontends for Linux too, but they all suck when it comes to branching or remotes 20:29 PilzAdam us`0gb, git is powerful, but you have to learn it first 20:30 thefamilygrog66 and yet (ironically) there's a perfectly fine gui for windows. wtf is up with that? 20:30 Evergreen I think it is better to use the terminal, I like it better 20:30 us`0gb It takes three lines to upload a project with git. THREE LINES! And you have to remember what they are. There's no excuse for at least one of those lines, and even if there was, it should only take one line to do something as simple as upload. 20:30 PilzAdam thefamilygrog66, well, AFAIK RBA uses that, and when I tell him to do that in git then hes always like "you cant do that in the gui" 20:30 PilzAdam s/that/something 20:31 PilzAdam and there is a command for it that can be written in 5 seconds 20:31 diemartin git-cola is good for most purposes 20:32 zat thefamilygrog66: “linux” does not have those “features”, they make software with those, and there are GUIs for git for GNU/Linux'es, did you try searching? 20:32 us`0gb There's no excuse for "git add -A". THat's all I'm saying. of COURSE you want to update the whole thing. If you didn't want to upload a particular file, you wouldn't have edited it. 20:32 us`0gb *update 20:33 PilzAdam us`0gb, you seriously cant imagine any situation where you want to add single files first? 20:34 us`0gb Not any situation that isn't covered by branches. And if you don't want to update it all, THAT should be specified. Update it all should be the default. 20:34 us`0gb Any file you DON'T want updated should be specified. 20:35 thefamilygrog66 yep, I've searched. All I want to do is upload a repository to my account. I don't have a problem typing lines into console, but sometimes doing things visually is more intuitive and requires less thought. 20:35 us`0gb Maybe I'm just not a real developer, so I don't see what you see, PilzAdam. 20:35 zat thefamilygrog66: get qgit if you need something visual. 20:36 us`0gb !g MInetest farming_plus 20:36 MinetestBot us`0gb: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2787 20:36 thefamilygrog66 I guess all I'm saying is it would nice to just drag and drop is all. 20:36 PilzAdam thefamilygrog66, CLI is generally faster than GUI 20:37 us`0gb Or even a regular file upload option on GitHub. 20:37 PilzAdam and AFAIK github has a CLI program for Linux that has all the features of the github GUI for windows 20:37 thefamilygrog66 PilzAdam, not if one has to look around to figure out what to type it isn't 20:37 us`0gb PilzAdam, the CLI would be faster if it didn't require three lines to do what should only take one line. 20:38 PilzAdam us`0gb, aliases works, scripts work 20:38 PilzAdam try writing scripts to work with a GUI program 20:39 PilzAdam thefamilygrog66, searching the option you need in a manpage doesnt take longer than 30 seconds 20:39 PilzAdam provided you understood the general structure of the program you are using 20:40 us`0gb I'm not sure how aliases would help. Can they map to multiple commands? As for scripts, I've been meaning to write one to combine those commands. I need to take the time to learn how to take arguments in a sh script first though, the third commands needs arguments. 20:40 thefamilygrog66 I just want to upload one folder. 20:42 PilzAdam what you actually want is: add all files in a folder, commit, and push to a remote branch 20:42 PilzAdam git is not useful for "uploading folders" 20:42 us`0gb dafull97, I just checked PilzAdam's code. Renaming the plugin "farming_plus" should fix the error. 20:42 zat You can always use Dropbox or similar :) 20:43 PilzAdam us`0gb, s/plugin/mod/ 20:43 thefamilygrog66 git is not useful for "uploading folders" - you got that right. 20:45 thefamilygrog66 Whoa, the daily build is up to 8.9 MB now. 20:45 zat PilzAdam: Plugin is also valid. 20:45 us`0gb PilzAdam, a "mod" is a modification or moderator, neither of which is what I mean. I mean a small application that does nothing on its own but enhances a bigger application. THe term "script" would apply, as it runs without compiling, and the term plugin would apply, as it enhances a bigger application, but the term "mod" does not fit what I'm talking about, and I do not intentionally misuse words. 20:45 PilzAdam zat, no, we defined it to be called "mod" 20:46 PilzAdam us`0gb, we have that thing defined to be called a "mod", live with that 20:46 prestotron55 [deleted] 20:46 prestotron55 [deleted] 20:46 us`0gb I live with it, and I do nt correct people who use the word "mod". I simply don't misuse the word myself and correct people who try to falsely correct me. 20:47 us`0gb *not 20:47 prestotron55 [deleted] 20:47 us`0gb I don't mind. 20:47 prestotron55 [deleted] 20:47 PilzAdam us`0gb, you are confusing users when using different terms 20:48 PilzAdam prestotron55, oh, I see, you cant see the difference between a normal conversation and picking on someone 20:48 prestotron55 [deleted] 20:48 prestotron55 [deleted] 20:49 us`0gb PilzAdam, the confusing part is when you use the incorrect term ("mod"). It makes people think that they actually ARE mods, when they aren't. 20:50 us`0gb If people used the correct words all the time, the world would be a less confusing place. 20:50 PilzAdam us`0gb, nobody else except you has ever complained about the incorrect usage, so I guess that argument is invalid 20:50 thefamilygrog66 *appeal to majority 20:50 PilzAdam the correct meaning is defined by majority of people, not by dictionaries 20:50 prestotron55 [deleted] 20:51 thefamilygrog66 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum 20:51 us`0gb I don't complain about your incorrect usage. I only complain about your trying to convince me to join in using the incorrect usage. THough I don't even complain about that, I only justify what I'm doing. A term being the popular one does not make it the right one. 20:52 prestotron55 [deleted] 20:53 us`0gb I do try to use proper grammar, spelling, and punctuation, yes. Though I'm bad at spelling. 20:53 PilzAdam prestotron55, you are confused now because English doesnt distinguish between argument and argument 20:53 prestotron55 [deleted] 20:54 prestotron55 [deleted] 20:55 * us`0gb sometimes passes bad arguments to functions and methods by mistake 20:56 PilzAdam it sucks that argument can be used synonym for debate 20:57 diemartin English is weird 20:57 us`0gb There are too many ambiguities in English and any other natural language ... 20:59 us`0gb Silent letters, gender-based pronouns, ambiguous words .... Definitely weird. 21:00 PilzAdam whats wrong with gender-based pronouns? 21:01 prestotron55 [deleted] 21:01 us`0gb Gender is arbitrary. It's like having hair color-based pronouns. Quite dumb. 21:02 PilzAdam dont mix up biological gender with grammatical gender 21:03 PilzAdam e.g. in german a chair is male 21:03 us`0gb Gender isn't biological, sex is. 21:03 us`0gb Gender is how you veiw yourself. 21:03 us`0gb *view 21:03 PilzAdam gender-based pronouns make it a lot easier to identify what you mean by it 21:04 thefamilygrog66 how is a chair male? 21:04 us`0gb Hair-color based pronouns would also make it easier, but even more easier, as there are more hair colors, so it would be more specific. 21:04 PilzAdam thefamilygrog66, its defined to be male 21:04 us`0gb thefamilygrog66, have you ever looked at the under side of a chair? 21:05 thefamilygrog66 says who? 21:05 PilzAdam because the majority of people in germany use male articles and pronouns 21:05 thefamilygrog66 that makes zero sense 21:05 PilzAdam thats how languages evolve, btw 21:05 thefamilygrog66 I never understood that about French either 21:05 us`0gb Anyway, when I said gender-based pronouns, I meant he/she/him/her/his/hers. 21:06 thefamilygrog66 a chair is sexless/genderless 21:06 thefamilygrog66 it's an inanimate object 21:06 us`0gb "Gender"-based for sexless objects is less dumb. 21:06 PilzAdam us`0gb, in german its used more consequent than in english, so it makes more sense 21:06 PilzAdam thefamilygrog66, dont mix up biological gender with grammatical gender 21:07 * prestotron55 is looking for cheap 10TB PC's that will run SocialSwim better than $24 hosting. 21:07 us`0gb THough it shouldn't be called gender-based for sexless objects, if you ask me. 21:07 thefamilygrog66 what is "grammatical gender" exactly? 21:07 thefamilygrog66 aside from arbitrary? 21:07 us`0gb It's a concept in non-English languages, thefamilygrog66. 21:07 PilzAdam in german it defines what articles and pronouns have to be used 21:08 thefamilygrog66 why? there is no reasoning 21:08 us`0gb Basically, all nouns have a "gender". THey are either mail or female. 21:08 PilzAdam there is no reason to call a sun a "sun" 21:08 us`0gb It's arbitrary, yes. 21:08 thefamilygrog66 I know, I learned that nonsense in French as well 21:08 PilzAdam language generally is arbitrary 21:08 us`0gb The sun is the sun because we need a word for it. We don't need to assign genders to inanimate objects. 21:09 thefamilygrog66 ^^^ that 21:09 PilzAdam you can always just point upwards, no need to have a name for it 21:09 * us`0gb votes that we all speak C instead of English/German/French 21:09 dafull97 PilzAdam, Raname worked... us `0gb 21:09 dafull97 ^^ 21:09 PilzAdam the reason why its called sun is that the majority of people in the english speaking part of the world have started to call it sun 21:10 us`0gb dafull97, I don't understand. 21:10 thefamilygrog66 is the sun a dude or a chick? 21:10 dafull97 you and Pilzadam told me rename Folder 21:10 us`0gb Oh, sorry, I get it. 21:10 PilzAdam chick 21:10 us`0gb Good to hear! 21:10 thefamilygrog66 makes sense. hah! 21:10 dafull97 yep, server is working =D 21:10 PilzAdam there is a 3rd grammatical gender in german, neutral 21:10 thefamilygrog66 neuter 21:10 PilzAdam e.g. a house is neutral 21:11 thefamilygrog66 everything inanimate is neutral 21:11 us`0gb In English, the sun would probably be male. A male child is your "son". 21:11 diemartin we use "el sol" (as in, male) 21:11 thefamilygrog66 that's a homonym 21:11 us`0gb I know. 21:11 jojoa1997 * us`0gb votes that we all speak C instead of English/German/French 21:11 * us`0gb is bad at jokes 21:11 jojoa1997 ^^WRONG^^ 21:11 jojoa1997 we should talk in bitcode 21:12 us`0gb You think I'm wrong about what I vote? I think you're wrong about me knowing what I vote. 21:12 us`0gb *me not knowing 21:12 jojoa1997 no 21:12 * thefamilygrog66 is gonna have to learn C now... 21:12 * dafull97 is Requesting help from PilzAdam 21:12 jojoa1997 jojoa1997> * us`0gb votes that we all speak C instead of English/German/French 21:12 jojoa1997 ^^WRONG^^ 21:12 jojoa1997 oh yeah read your response wrong 21:13 us`0gb "0gb.us votes that ..." "WRONG!" 21:13 jojoa1997 it is just that cant you use different languages in C 21:13 PilzAdam anyway, as I already said a few times: language evolves by a majority of people using something 21:13 jojoa1997 like in lua you can set (local what=1) and (local que=1) 21:13 dafull97 PilzAdam, whem you get a second i have a Question about the pop-up you gave me 21:13 us`0gb Bitcode .... I forget what that is. I know what byte code is, but what is bitcode? 21:13 PilzAdam this is also true for mods in Minetest, the majority of people call it mods, so its defined to be correct 21:13 jojoa1997 Language is the slang of long ago 21:14 thefamilygrog66 schlaang 21:14 us`0gb It is not the correct term just because someone says it is. "Mod" has a meaning, and those things don't fit the meaning. THerefor, it is not the correct word. 21:15 PilzAdam nono, not "someone", a lot of people 21:15 us`0gb If I call the sky red, and I get everyone else to call it red, that doesn't make "red" the correct word. 21:15 thefamilygrog66 what's not a mod? 21:15 PilzAdam us`0gb, it actually does 21:15 * us`0gb disagrees 21:16 PilzAdam how do you think has language evolved? by someone writing a dictionary at 800 B.C.? 21:16 diemartin us`0gb, in that case, tell me what is red 21:16 thefamilygrog66 Schlaang Super Seat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en5WqnuYbwg 21:16 us`0gb Maybe it does ... but it certainly doesn't make blue the incorrect word. So maybe red and blue would both be correct? 21:17 us`0gb But by that logic, both plugin and mod would be correct. 21:17 PilzAdam if _everyone_ uses "red" instead of "blue", then "blue" becomes wrong 21:17 PilzAdam because nobody doesnt know the original meaning of "blue" 21:18 PilzAdam example: spam 21:18 PilzAdam it meant some kind of pork some time ago (AFAIK), now the majority uses it for a different meaning 21:18 thefamilygrog66 canned processed pork product 21:19 PilzAdam and if you tell someone "I want some spam" then they will ask for your e-mail adress and wont give you pork 21:19 PilzAdam the old meaning just become deprecated 21:19 thefamilygrog66 only computer nerds used it as junkmail until email was widespread among the mainstream 21:20 us`0gb Well, "plugin" is still widely used everywhere outside the walls of the Minetest community to mean exactly what Minetest "mods" are. So plugin is actually the more widely used term. While you can claim "mod" is correct, there is no arguing that "plugin" is correct. 21:20 thefamilygrog66 a mod modifies the game, so it's correct terminology, no? 21:20 us`0gb I mean, that "plugin" is incorrect. 21:21 PilzAdam its used widely in the Minecraft community (although its used "correct" from your point of view there), so users from there, who dont know the technical background, call MInetest mods "mods" too 21:21 thefamilygrog66 they're both correct 21:21 khonkhortisan minetest mods and pinetest plugins 21:21 us`0gb It modifies an application, I'm fairly certain, and Minetest "mods" don't modify the application, they only add features like a plugin. 21:21 thefamilygrog66 plugins are electrical scent emitting devices 21:22 PilzAdam the reason why we use "mods" is that it has the same effect to the end-user as mods in MC 21:22 thefamilygrog66 adding features arguably modifies the experience 21:22 thefamilygrog66 if not the core program 21:22 PilzAdam and from the technical side, the term "mod" gets overriden by lua-api.txt 21:23 PilzAdam s/override/"overriden"/ 21:24 thefamilygrog66 I look at it like vehicle mods, for example: you're not modifying the core automobile, but adding a feature 21:24 us`0gb So the name is being copied from Minecraft mods, which are actually mods. We have something better, a plugin API. We should flaunt it, and not call them a lesser thing, a mod. 21:25 us`0gb Plugins are better than mods. 21:25 PilzAdam we can call it what we want 21:25 us`0gb Yes, call it what you want, I wont try to interfere. But I'll not use the incorrect term myself. 21:26 PilzAdam by using the other term you do interfere 21:26 PilzAdam if its your intention or not 21:26 us`0gb By using the other term, I'm following the majority of the world. 21:27 us`0gb If anything, it is the MInetest comunity that are the interference in this case. 21:27 PilzAdam ehm, the majority of the world doesnt speak English 21:27 us`0gb True. 21:27 PilzAdam and you use the wrong term when you look at your target audience 21:27 us`0gb Besides, the majority of the world uses Microsoft Windows. Clearly, their reasoning skills cannot be trusted. 21:28 * zat yawns 21:29 harrison what do you call a pacifist hindu butler? 21:29 us`0gb My target audience ... that's probably the most convincing argument I've heard so far, but I do not feel that my target audience misusing a word excuses me misusing the word as well. 21:29 PilzAdam harrison, a "Pazifistischer Hindu Diener" 21:30 PilzAdam (thats just a german translation) 21:30 harrison mahatma coat 21:30 us`0gb If my target audience I guess that's why I'm not allowed in the Minetest marketing team. 21:31 us`0gb Oh, what? My sentance got mangled. 21:31 us`0gb It should say "I guess that's why I'm not allowed in the Minetest marketing team." 21:33 PilzAdam AFAIK it doesnt use "full unicode" 21:33 prestotron55 [deleted] 21:34 PilzAdam prestotron55, ok, from now on you just say everything about your web server or you strange social network in /dev/null and not in this channel, ok? 21:34 PilzAdam that will get you not-muted in this channel 21:34 prestotron55 [deleted] 21:36 prestotron55 [deleted] 21:36 proller maybe just ban it? 21:37 prestotron55 [deleted] 21:37 prestotron55 [deleted] 21:38 proller fuck noob - save channel 21:39 prestotron55 [deleted] 21:40 proller but not all noobs noobish like you 21:40 proller you are nooBest 21:41 prestotron55 [deleted] 21:41 harrison prestotron55: I feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop 21:41 proller you cant stop noobing here 21:41 prestotron55 [deleted] 21:41 prestotron55 [deleted] 21:41 prestotron55 [deleted] 21:41 proller flooding 21:42 prestotron55 [deleted] 21:42 harrison a noob is no boon certainly 21:42 proller showing your 6cm pennis length 21:42 prestotron55 [deleted] 21:42 harrison see what i did there? 21:42 proller ^ every 5 minutes 21:42 harrison prestotron55: I feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop 21:42 PilzAdam !deop proller 21:42 PilzAdam !mute prestotron55 21:42 PilzAdam !mute proller 21:42 harrison do not harm the harrison please 21:42 diemartin phew 21:43 PilzAdam the harrison will not be harmed 21:43 harrison xlnt 21:43 us`0gb prestotron55, "newb" is someone who's new at something. "Noob" is someone who is new (or acts new) and stupid/annoying. 21:43 harrison did you hear about the navajo guard dog? 21:43 PilzAdam !unmute proller 21:43 PilzAdam !unmute prestotron55*!*@* 21:43 harrison it was a dobie 21:44 * proller win 21:45 us`0gb Hmm. THat mute looks exceedingly easy to bypass by just changing user names. That might have to be fixed in MinetestBot. 21:46 proller in irc everything easy, ip change too 21:46 PilzAdam us`0gb, it turned out to be enough to shut this fight down 21:47 us`0gb PilzAdam, yes, I saw it worked this time. I'm just ... overly paranoid. About everything. I see security issues everywhere. 21:47 ShadowNinja ^ And you can't /nick while quieted or banned, so you have to part, /nick and re-join. 21:47 us`0gb ShadowNinja, I saw that as well. 21:49 PilzAdam us`0gb, well, best is /mode +q *!*@* 21:50 us`0gb Does that mute everyone? I still don't know IRC as well as I should. 21:53 ShadowNinja us`0gb: Yes. PilzAdam: That is pretty pointless, use something like +m. 21:54 ShadowNinja Well voices and ops can speak through quiets... 21:57 zat technic/config.lua:4: attempt to call global 'Settings' (a nil value) 21:57 zat D:!? 21:57 PilzAdam zat, technic master doesnt work with 0.4.7 stable 21:57 PilzAdam use the stable branch 21:58 zat I am trying to but I just cannot find the commit of worldedit that will work with 0.4.7 21:59 zat want... you meant the stable branch of technic? 21:59 zat no, there is none 22:00 PilzAdam https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/tree/stable <- this one 22:01 ShadowNinja zat: https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit/releases/tag/0.6 22:01 zat thanks both 22:02 zat the reason why I am trying to use 0.4.7 stable is for a certain cpp file which seems to employ LevelDB, assertion errors. 22:03 zat probably src/CMakeFiles/minetestserver.dir/database-leveldb.cpp ... eh 22:03 ShadowNinja zat: Elaborate. Try with gdb and a debug build. 22:03 zat I will 22:04 zat for now, I remember that it assertion fails on something like: status.ok() 22:04 PilzAdam zat, you dont have to use Leveldb 22:04 PilzAdam it shouldnt fail any assertions then 22:05 zat it would kill my cpu though, sqlite performance is, you know. 22:05 PilzAdam leveldb isnt that much better, AFAIK 22:05 zat it has been for me 22:05 ShadowNinja zat: 0.4.7 uses SQLite... 22:05 zat That is whY! 22:06 zat this one: src/database-leveldb.cpp:44: Database_LevelDB::Database_LevelDB(ServerMap*, std::string): Assertion 'status.ok()' failed. 22:09 PilzAdam have you checked the world directory? 22:10 zat yes 22:10 PilzAdam what leveldb version do you use? 22:11 zat 1.7 22:11 PilzAdam try upgrading, I use 1.9 from the ubuntu repos, and I heard that is already outdated 22:12 zat With leveldb 1.13 it works flawlessly in my laptop, I don’t think it is that. 22:16 zat The funny thing is that I made the server work for an hour and played and tested everything... then no idea what I did that now it fails. 22:19 zat would it be useful debugging info of my issue with the assertion using the latest commit of minetest? 22:23 PilzAdam zat, maybe you found a way to corrput a leveldb database, can you reproduce it? 22:24 zat I really cannot, I am rsyncing from a working db 22:25 zat so I am totally sure that every time I retry the db is good 22:25 zat ok... I compiled the last commit of minetest and it works good. 22:26 zat maybe an undocumented bug accidentally fixed :D 22:26 PilzAdam whith which commit didnt it work? 22:27 zat f960c3b 22:27 PilzAdam well, that line hasnt changed since it was added 22:27 PilzAdam so it has nothing to do with Minetest 22:27 zat wat... no idea then 22:27 zat I will try once again 22:27 PilzAdam *the version of MInetest 22:32 dafull97 Has anyone on here used the firearm mod? 22:35 diemartin do you have any quiestion regarding the mod or truly asking who used it? 22:35 diemartin -i 22:36 zat ERROR[main]: Subgame [] could not be found. ????????????????????????????????????? 22:38 diemartin dafull97, give yourself some ammo, then reload the gun (Shift+Click) 22:39 dafull97 click mouse? 22:40 diemartin ... 22:41 PilzAdam zat, pastebin your world.mt please 22:41 dafull97 sorry im nub, with the mods... and some servers side minetest... haha 22:41 dafull97 so i got 90 bullets 22:42 dafull97 clicked gun and left shift + click mouse 22:43 diemartin well, yes, whenever someone says "click" in the context of computing, it generally means "Press the left mouse button" 22:43 diemartin + and release 22:43 zat PilzAdam: http://pastebin.com/XtTbt17B 22:44 PilzAdam zat, have you edited that file manually? 22:44 zat Yes 22:44 PilzAdam do you have a game "tester" installed? 22:45 zat not that I knowof 22:45 zat ah now got it 22:45 zat thanks 22:45 PilzAdam I guess you want "minetest" there 22:46 zat yes I do :) 22:47 zat the logs should at least me more explainative than showing just a [] 22:49 dafull97 diemartin: sorry, i relized that wasnt working at first i got it now 22:49 diemartin you must get the right ammo for the right gun 22:54 dafull97 yes 22:55 dafull97 i knew that i had the right ammo ;) 22:55 dafull97 how do i give new players items on start? 22:56 diemartin take a look at the give_initial_stuff mod in minetest_game 22:56 us`0gb Look into the code in minetest_game/mods/give_initial_stuf/init.lua. 22:56 us`0gb *stuff 23:07 dafull97 i dont have that? 23:20 * harrison drifts to the bottom of the lagoon 23:20 zat My server is not even trying to announce when server_announce = 1 23:21 zat (USE_CURL was used) 23:25 dafull97 us `0gb: i dont have that? 23:27 us`0gb Where did you get Minetest? Did you install it from the .deb? 23:28 dafull97 in apt-get 23:28 dafull97 i have it in a vps 23:28 dafull97 well i have a bigger problem 23:29 us`0gb Apt-get? YOur version is too old then. 23:30 dafull97 http://pastebin.com/MWYXGAev 23:30 dafull97 4.7 or somthing like that 23:31 us`0gb That's not in APT. Did you install it by adding the PPA before using APT? 23:31 dafull97 ya 23:32 dafull97 did you look at pastebin 23:32 us`0gb I was reading it as you asked. 23:32 dafull97 thx... =D 23:32 * dafull97 is thankful 23:33 * dafull97 loves this action 23:33 us`0gb All I can think is that there is a missing API hook. WHich would mean your Land Rush is too new, not working on the stable version of MInetest. 23:34 us`0gb "19:26:51: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Player::deSerial$" 23:44 dafull97 it was running fine, 23:45 us`0gb OH! I remember now. 23:45 dafull97 then i stopped and rebooted vps, and did that 23:45 dafull97 ? 23:45 us`0gb try deleting the players directory from the world directory. 23:46 us`0gb When you stopped the VPS without shutting down Minetest, you corrupted a player file. 23:46 dafull97 what is the fix? 23:47 dafull97 ohh, so just delete play files? 23:47 us`0gb Player files, yes. 23:47 us`0gb THe rest of the map should be fine. 23:48 dafull97 nice it worked... very clever! 23:48 * dafull97 is 23:49 us`0gb Okay, good. 23:49 * dafull97 is VERY Thankful for us `0gb =D 23:49 us`0gb Yeah, no problem. 23:51 dafull97 one more question 23:53 dafull97 where do i go to start the *NNEW PLAYERS ONLY* with items? 23:54 us`0gb /usr/share/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/give_initial_stuff/init.lua will give you example code for starting users with items. 23:56 dafull97 Thanks!! 23:56 us`0gb Yeah, any time.