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01:05 |
AWTom |
Sheldon's installing Linux on Big Bang Theory |
01:06 |
Pelayo |
I hope it's not ubuntu... but other distros don't pay for publicity on TV |
01:07 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
lets hope it is ubuntu lol otherwise ittl look bad when it comes time to setup graphics and wifi :P |
01:07 |
Pelayo |
that will be really hard in ubuntu soon |
01:08 |
Pelayo |
and easier in any other distro, thanks to Mir |
01:08 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
what they getting rid of the wiz? |
01:08 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
Mir "because the real thing caught fire and came crashing down to earth" lol |
01:08 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
aptly named hehe |
01:08 |
Pelayo |
even "official" projects derived from ubuntu are refusing to use it, like kubuntu or lubuntu |
01:09 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
well the biggest burn came from intel when they said they wouldn't support it |
01:09 |
Pelayo |
there is another problem... lots of makers might see it not really useful to do two separate drivers: one for Mir and other for Wayland |
01:10 |
Pelayo |
and there is only one distro using Mir |
01:10 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/09/08/0431242/intel-rejects-supporting-ubuntus-xmir |
01:10 |
Pelayo |
yep, I read it |
01:10 |
Pelayo |
canonical is making several mistakes right now, not only that |
01:10 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
Canonical - NIH :P |
01:11 |
Pelayo |
they are starting to charge other distros for using their packages |
01:11 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
well theyve tried everything else to make money |
01:11 |
Pelayo |
not even redhat enterprise does that I think... |
01:11 |
VanessaE |
glad I went back to debian then :) |
01:12 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
well theres the crux, the market ain't big enough for everyone to sell support |
01:12 |
Pelayo |
Mir is a big mistake, but I understand why they are pushing it |
01:12 |
Pelayo |
it makes a lot easier to share code between ubuntu desktop and phone |
01:12 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
debian has it drawbacks too, but thats also what im using |
01:12 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
debian stupid moves: renaming firefox (y?!), removing collada from blender, etc. |
01:12 |
Pelayo |
I switched to Linux Mint, and they are talking about going back to debian as a base if canonical continues this trend |
01:13 |
VanessaE |
debian's about to get some minetest mods as official deb packages in upstream :) |
01:13 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
i thought there already was a debian-mint |
01:13 |
Pelayo |
yep |
01:13 |
Pelayo |
there is linux mint (ubuntu based) and linux mint debian edition (mint themed debian) |
01:13 |
Pelayo |
until last year it looked like LMDE was a small project due to be abandoned |
01:14 |
Pelayo |
but I think it might be the official one next year.. |
01:14 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
mods in the repos is a bad idea, you always need the latest versions of the mods for it to work properly otherwise no one lends a hand here |
01:14 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
(debian repos i mean) |
01:15 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
and its hard enough not having an ancient version of minetest in the repos lol |
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Pelayo |
I got the .deb from the daily ppa and extracted it, running it as standalone... I wonder if the packages from the ppa work in debian |
01:18 |
Pelayo |
does debian support ppa or is it an ubuntu exclusive thing? |
01:19 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
i wish debian had ppa |
01:19 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
but alas, i think its a launchpad thing |
01:20 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
but then ppa's would defeat the purpose of debian cherrypicking the freest packages |
01:21 |
Pelayo |
but you can't force the users to use only taliban-gnu-licensed software :/ |
01:23 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
like i said earlier, my biggest frustration would debian is how they crippled blender lol |
01:23 |
Pelayo |
that's why I don't like going back to debian |
01:24 |
Pelayo |
debian is great for servers, where stability is he top priority |
01:24 |
Pelayo |
the* |
01:24 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
well i used to use archbang, but i lived in mortal fear the next update would break something (9 times out of ten it did) |
01:25 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
it would be nice to have just one distro that doesnt suck, isn't outdated or crippled by subjective principles |
01:25 |
Pelayo |
I'm happy with linux mint for now |
01:26 |
Pelayo |
but all ubuntu-based distros are in a small danger because of mir and other licensing things |
01:26 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
mint was a no-go for my p4, it kept switch sda and sdb on every boot, so half the time it couldn't find the system |
01:26 |
Pelayo |
strange |
01:27 |
Pelayo |
there is only one thing why I can't recommend mint to a new user |
01:27 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
i think the issue might have been because the two drives used different connectors (sata and pata) |
01:27 |
Pelayo |
no support for upgrades to newer releases, the only supported way to upgrade is a clean install.. |
01:27 |
Pelayo |
it's not a problem for me, but it might be a real pain in the ass for someone who is starting |
01:28 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
with archbang i got used to updating via clean install lol |
01:28 |
Pelayo |
I'm used too from ubuntu |
01:28 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
but i cant be sure constantly formatting the / partition isn't what caused the disk to die lol |
01:29 |
Pelayo |
ubuntu officially allows upgrading, but 3 of 4 times I did that I ended with a non bootable system |
01:29 |
Pelayo |
so i stopped trying |
01:32 |
ShadowNinja |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan: I use Arch Linux. No issues so far. |
01:33 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
well if you like it more power to ya, i felt maintenance was a pain |
01:34 |
Pelayo |
arch requires more time and knowledge, but I have to say their docs are awesome |
01:35 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
though it is ironic - when i was pro arch a year ago everyone was like "hell no" lol |
01:36 |
ShadowNinja |
Yes, their wiki is the best I know of. My main reasons to switch to it were 1) it has recent puilds of just about everything if you count the AUR. 2) It is a rolling distribution. |
01:38 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
are the aur helpers working now? i had some issues three months ago |
01:38 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
(archbang came with packer, yaourt wasn't in pacman's repos :S) |
01:39 |
Pelayo |
O_o 3 hours for downloading 3.11.1 kernel |
01:39 |
Pelayo |
there is something wrong here |
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ShadowNinja |
I use yaourt. I downloaded the PKGBUILD and ran makepkg on it. (Or whatever that command is) |
01:41 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
someone accidentally packaged their pron folder along with the kernel :/ |
01:42 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
yeah no that right there is too much effort for me lol |
01:42 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
thats why i was kinda glad to go back to synaptic |
01:53 |
ShadowNinja |
Very neat: http://osrc.dfm.io/ |
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PilzAdam |
bye |
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LandmineTM |
sup sup |
02:24 |
LandmineTM |
long time no see peeps |
02:24 |
LandmineTM |
missed e? |
02:24 |
LandmineTM |
me*** |
02:24 |
VanessaE |
nope. |
02:25 |
LandmineTM |
vanessaE i missed you too |
02:25 |
LandmineTM |
<3 |
02:26 |
LandmineTM |
i see oldcoder is still around |
02:26 |
LandmineTM |
is jordach active anymore? |
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LandmineTM |
menche!!!! |
02:28 |
Menche |
oh hello |
02:29 |
Menche |
haven't seen you for a while |
02:29 |
LandmineTM |
yeah |
02:29 |
LandmineTM |
been a loooooong time |
02:31 |
LandmineTM |
man this chat is even more boring than it was before |
02:31 |
Menche |
its usually pretty dead around now |
02:31 |
LandmineTM |
how so |
02:31 |
Menche |
around this time of day |
02:32 |
OldCoder |
Hi! |
02:32 |
OldCoder |
LandmineTM, Jordach is here at times... He works hard I think on creating characters |
02:32 |
LandmineTM |
ohh ok menche....hi oldcoder,,,,,,what a noob i have to get a real job and that homo is making characters? gtfo |
02:32 |
LandmineTM |
hehehe |
02:33 |
Menche |
let see, in europe it's around 4 am |
02:35 |
LandmineTM |
so? |
02:36 |
Menche |
a lot of minetest people are from around there, everyone's probably asleep around now |
02:37 |
LandmineTM |
true |
02:37 |
LandmineTM |
bunch of dirty brazilians now a days |
02:37 |
LandmineTM |
nothing like the good old days when i was the only mexican :') |
02:37 |
LandmineTM |
ahh yesss the good old days |
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LandmineTM |
oldcoder do you not agree with me that it was better in the old days? |
02:40 |
LandmineTM |
when it was fun to troll? |
02:42 |
OldCoder |
Hm? |
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cannot respond to somebody who has left |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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OldCoder |
VanessaE, c u |
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Guest82172 |
Good afternoon everyone. I hope you are all well. I just had a quick question, which is also sort of a request. |
03:52 |
Menche |
ok... |
03:53 |
Guest82172 |
I wanted to try a little trick I learned. But I would need to see if someone can log into my server to see if it works. You can leave right after. I just would like to see if you can get in. |
03:54 |
Menche |
address? |
03:54 |
Guest82172 |
One moment, I am geting it now |
03:55 |
Guest82172 |
98.116.20.24 |
03:55 |
Guest82172 |
30000 or 31000 I am unsure |
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Menche |
not working on 30000, lets get MinetestBot's opinion |
03:56 |
Menche |
!up 98.116.20.24 |
03:56 |
MinetestBot |
98.116.20.24:30000 seems to be down |
03:56 |
Menche |
!up 98.116.20.24 31000 |
03:56 |
MinetestBot |
98.116.20.24:31000 seems to be down |
03:56 |
Guest82172 |
Ah, so it does not work just as I thought. |
03:56 |
Menche |
the computer at that address isn't responding to minetest init packets. either there isn't a server running or it's behind a router. |
03:57 |
Guest82172 |
I figured it would not work |
03:57 |
Guest82172 |
Just trying a little trick I heard |
03:57 |
Menche |
? |
03:57 |
Guest82172 |
Thank you for your time |
03:57 |
Menche |
what trick? |
03:58 |
Guest82172 |
I heard if you have reamobo. And give someone your public IP they would not need the program. That they would be able to join as long as they had your public IP |
03:58 |
Guest82172 |
I figured it was wrong. |
03:58 |
Menche |
remobo works by creating a virtual network |
03:59 |
Menche |
everyone has to be on that network (be logged on to remobo and on each other's buddy list) to see each other |
03:59 |
Guest82172 |
Yes, and others need to be added to your virtual network to join |
03:59 |
Guest82172 |
Yes |
03:59 |
Guest82172 |
I knew this "trick" rather now a false rumor was wrong |
03:59 |
Guest82172 |
Speaking of servers. What ever happen to Menches server |
03:59 |
Guest82172 |
I do not see it on public anymore. |
03:59 |
Guest82172 |
It was quite popular |
04:00 |
Menche |
got sort of annoyed at the persistent griefing |
04:00 |
Menche |
so bad i'll have to reset the world |
04:01 |
Menche |
i don't feel like putting it back up without a better protection solution in place, though |
04:01 |
Guest82172 |
Yes, Griefers are quite annoying. You should try this Mod landrush servers use |
04:01 |
Guest82172 |
If you hit a claimed area more then cretin times you become auto banned |
04:02 |
Guest82172 |
You can set it for certain amount of time and even ban after a certain amount of temp bans |
04:02 |
Menche |
its up, but the current map is really a temporary placeholder and i have a lot to do on it, so i disabled serverlist announcing |
04:03 |
Guest82172 |
Ah, I understand. Well I am off to work on my world. |
04:03 |
Guest82172 |
Thank you Menche for the help and chat |
04:03 |
Guest82172 |
Take care. |
04:03 |
Menche |
np |
04:03 |
Menche |
bye |
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Inocudom |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UU9-aSGgj7pVXFEnd-iFzVdA&v=uH9jGI1mzSI&feature=player_detailpage (Signs of Change) |
04:12 |
Inocudom |
Scary stuff it is. Our world is crumbling to dust. There is no light at the end of the tunnel anymore. |
04:14 |
Inocudom |
I know this to be so, due to the fact that the very foundations of my spirit have been collapsing ever since a few years back. |
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* Jordach |
is going to start killing people who use 64px textures when they should be 16px |
07:32 |
Jordach |
it makes life difficult for texture packers |
07:32 |
khonkhortisan |
64? I use 128, hindered by my computer memory |
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GNADev|zRokh |
hi |
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GNADev|zRokh |
:D |
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GNADev|zRokh |
sfan5, have you ever used PhpBB? |
07:43 |
Jordach |
GNADev|zRokh, he's not here |
07:43 |
GNADev|zRokh |
cause i have a problem and nobody at #phpbb is helping |
07:43 |
GNADev|zRokh |
he just joined o.o |
07:43 |
Jordach |
Netsplit between *.net and *.split. Users quit: book`, sfan5 |
07:43 |
GNADev|zRokh |
what does that mean? |
07:43 |
Jordach |
they wont hear you until they come back |
07:44 |
Jordach |
not to mention he's at school |
07:44 |
GNADev|zRokh |
in #phpbb the same thing happened... |
07:44 |
GNADev|zRokh |
oh ok |
07:44 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Jordach, do you know anything about phpbb? |
07:44 |
GNADev|zRokh |
because look: http://gnadev.hj.cx/forums/memberlist.php |
07:44 |
GNADev|zRokh |
look from member #5 to #23 |
07:44 |
GNADev|zRokh |
:/ |
07:45 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i had 7 spammers register in 1h and 10 minutes... |
07:45 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i've deleted some users, deleted some posts but they still keep coming back |
07:46 |
GNADev|zRokh |
what should i do? |
07:46 |
Jordach |
ban by IP |
07:47 |
GNADev|zRokh |
they all have seperate IP's, i think... let me check |
07:49 |
GNADev|zRokh |
finally |
07:49 |
GNADev|zRokh |
the capcha im using is readable by bots |
07:49 |
GNADev|zRokh |
ill use Q&A Capcha |
07:52 |
Jordach |
!op |
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Mossmanikin |
Hi folks |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all, and happy Water Monitoring Day! :) |
09:40 |
* Jordach |
is laughing |
09:40 |
Jordach |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPH4D0j6LD4 |
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VanessaE |
hi all |
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arsdragonfly |
Hi |
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Mossmanikin |
Hi |
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VanessaE |
slow morning huh. |
10:25 |
Mossmanikin |
:D |
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Jordach |
uhm what crome |
10:34 |
Jordach |
chrome* |
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Jordach |
VanessaE's minetest directory acts strange when i select an audio file |
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* Jordach |
is busy supporting Sokomine's travelnet |
10:55 |
VanessaE |
strange how? |
10:55 |
VanessaE |
and which directory? |
10:56 |
Jordach |
the minetest one |
10:56 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, this big black window covered your js directory (not the white page listing) |
10:56 |
VanessaE |
"the minetest one"? |
10:56 |
VanessaE |
HDX, my game, what? |
10:57 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/jHtVDvS.png |
10:57 |
VanessaE |
oh that |
10:58 |
VanessaE |
weird. |
10:58 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, http://i.imgur.com/d1PKMag.png |
10:58 |
VanessaE |
didn't know anyone still bothered to explore my site |
10:58 |
Jordach |
click that highlighted thing |
10:59 |
VanessaE |
works for me |
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VanessaE |
(ff 24 beta 8) |
10:59 |
Jordach |
probably chrome being chrome |
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Jordach |
hey Evergreen |
11:10 |
Evergreen |
Hello |
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Mossmanikin |
Mercury Rain-mq.ogg works for me, Mercury Rain.ogg not |
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VanessaE |
weird. |
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* VanessaE |
shrugs |
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11:14 |
Mossmanikin |
I've heard that track before... but don't know where. |
11:14 |
VanessaE |
in technic |
11:14 |
VanessaE |
it's part of the extended ambiance mod |
11:14 |
Mossmanikin |
Yeah, that's it! |
11:14 |
Mossmanikin |
Really like it |
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Mossmanikin |
Bit like a Unreal I tune |
11:15 |
VanessaE |
it was originally an .s3m module or some such |
11:15 |
Mossmanikin |
That explains it |
11:15 |
Mossmanikin |
Love trackers |
11:20 |
Mossmanikin |
To be be more precise: I love modules and working with mod plug tracker |
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* Jordach |
prefers FL Studio |
11:21 |
Jordach |
i can add notes using my rock band guitar, what else do i need? |
11:23 |
Mossmanikin |
Used to do a lot with FL Studio, but prefer the oldskool way now |
11:24 |
Jordach |
Mossmanikin, i just don't like the way Tracker's layout songsd |
11:24 |
Jordach |
-d |
11:24 |
Jordach |
!op |
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Jordach |
much cleaner and easier to read |
11:26 |
Mossmanikin |
I loved FL 1. 4, but the newest... too much of a good thing |
11:26 |
Jordach |
i have FL Studio 11 XXL (I like throwing money at the best) |
11:28 |
* Jordach |
sneezes |
11:28 |
Mossmanikin |
Bless U |
11:30 |
Jordach |
travelnet 75% supported |
11:40 |
Mossmanikin |
Evergreen: guess I'll use plants_lib for generating forest soils, sort of found a way to do it without, but doesn't seem to be faster at all |
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11:41 |
Evergreen |
Mossmanikin: I think that's because plats_lib uses onge to spawn plants |
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11:41 |
* Jordach |
starts playing openspades |
11:42 |
Mossmanikin |
Yeah, people who'll use our mod will probably use plants_lib anyway |
11:43 |
* VanessaE |
peeks in |
11:44 |
VanessaE |
someone mentioned plants_lib? :) |
11:44 |
Evergreen |
Jordach: I can't play openspades because when I try to apply the patch sfan5 gave me, it says it could recognice th patch or something like that |
11:45 |
Evergreen |
*recognize *the |
11:45 |
Mossmanikin |
Yeah, plants_lib is a must have ;D |
11:47 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, malformed afaik |
11:49 |
Mossmanikin |
VanessaE: for some reason generating of some stuff using plants_lib seems to be faster than using minetest.register_on_generated |
11:50 |
VanessaE |
it's because plants_lib goes through some effort to filter out all the land it can before spawning a plant :-) |
11:52 |
Mossmanikin |
Nice! Guess I'll "abuse" it for a lot of not-plants then in the future :) |
11:53 |
VanessaE |
go for it :) |
11:53 |
VanessaE |
it's already being used in some ...unusual places *pokes Sokomine* |
11:54 |
Mossmanikin |
:D abusing stuff (not living beings!) is cool |
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11:57 |
Jordach |
'tis a shame VanessaE bought a webserver and not a VPS |
11:58 |
VanessaE |
heh |
11:58 |
VanessaE |
well that server only costs me 10 bucks a month |
11:58 |
Jordach |
that's cheap |
11:58 |
VanessaE |
a VPS would be three times the price |
11:58 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, you only need 128mb of ram to run one |
11:58 |
* Jordach |
has run simple mobs on one before |
11:59 |
Jordach |
> ascii a stupid question, get a stupid ansi |
11:59 |
Jordach |
plol |
12:00 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, considering your home machine consumes similar electricity (~$15 a mo.) it's not that much of a far stretch |
12:01 |
VanessaE |
true but my home machine would stay up 24/7 anyways and the client uses far more power than the servers |
12:01 |
VanessaE |
so it's a wash |
12:01 |
* Jordach |
thinks that CPU needs a rest :P |
12:02 |
VanessaE |
please, this 6-core monster begs to be utilized properly. |
12:02 |
VanessaE |
:) |
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12:02 |
VanessaE |
and it's all his fault! ^^^ |
12:02 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
12:02 |
VanessaE |
;) |
12:02 |
Pelayo |
mine is behaving strangely... |
12:03 |
Pelayo |
a screwdriver fell and broke two blades of the cpu fan |
12:03 |
Pelayo |
and it's cooler than ever |
12:03 |
Pelayo |
28c now O_o |
12:06 |
Pelayo |
and no, this screwdriver is not sonic |
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12:12 |
Mossmanikin |
Hi PilzAdam |
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12:25 |
Mossmanikin |
Evergreen: check GitHub if you like to test forest soils (didn't follow naming conventions for textures yet, lotta unused stuff there) |
12:26 |
Jordach |
http://imgur.com/gallery/mERNllk |
12:26 |
Evergreen |
Okay, once I get the stalactites to spawn naturally, I'm going to pull request it |
12:27 |
Mossmanikin |
Allright |
12:28 |
Jordach |
plol http://i.imgur.com/5nYWjSb.jpg |
12:28 |
Mossmanikin |
lol |
12:29 |
Evergreen |
heh |
12:31 |
Jordach |
AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=111018#p111018 |
12:32 |
Evergreen |
AWESOME ALERT |
12:32 |
Pelayo |
do you have a vault jumpsuit too? |
12:32 |
Jordach |
anyone wanna play OpenSpades |
12:32 |
Evergreen |
Mossmanikin: It doesn't appear that the new dirt types are in the github repository |
12:32 |
Mossmanikin |
Pretty cool, yeah |
12:33 |
Evergreen |
Goshdangit, I really want to get openspades working, it looks awesome |
12:33 |
Jordach |
lemme just make this youtube video...... |
12:34 |
Mossmanikin |
Evergreen: what do you mean not there? |
12:34 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, hold on |
12:34 |
Evergreen |
Can you link me to your youtube channel again? Mossmanikin: I don't see any init.lua files or textures in the github repository |
12:34 |
Evergreen |
Did you remember to push your commits to the github repository? |
12:35 |
Evergreen |
I don't know how github works on windows, so I might not be very helpful |
12:36 |
Mossmanikin |
there's 2 branches, check "forrest-soils" |
12:37 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, .deb package for OpenSpades: http://www.mediafire.com/download/dwda0e2di98yd4t |
12:37 |
Jordach |
(it's 64bit, which i damn hope you are) |
12:37 |
Evergreen |
I'm not. GRRRRR |
12:37 |
Evergreen |
This is why I need a new computer |
12:38 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, i could boot into Mint 15 and attempt building it myself |
12:38 |
Evergreen |
Hmm, are you sure you want to go to that trouble? |
12:39 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, you use ubuntu, i use mint; binaries should work on either |
12:39 |
Jordach |
linky sfan5's patch |
12:40 |
Mossmanikin |
Need a new OS, just to damn lazy.... |
12:40 |
Mossmanikin |
*too |
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12:43 |
Evergreen |
Here is sfan5's patch: http://pastie.org/8334080#2-3 |
12:46 |
jordach |
Evergreen, grabbing packages |
12:46 |
jordach |
i just need to compile then BAM |
12:47 |
jordach |
(it'll just run from it's own directory) |
12:55 |
* jordach |
pokes sfan5 |
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13:11 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
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13:13 |
Mossmanikin |
bb VanessaE |
13:14 |
* Evergreen |
is afk |
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13:19 |
jordach |
yay, manually applied the patch to fix the compile error |
13:20 |
jordach |
Evergreen, COMPILED! |
13:21 |
Mossmanikin |
don't know what you're talking about, but congratulations! :D |
13:21 |
jordach |
zipped and ready to upload |
13:22 |
jordach |
sfan5, i compiled it on Mint 15 32bit; suck it |
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13:26 |
arsdragonfly1 |
is mmdb working now? i can neither download mods nor add new versions |
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13:29 |
Mossmanikin |
although I like theidea, I never used mmdb |
13:31 |
jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/rJLXT63.jpg <- Evergreen |
13:32 |
jordach |
PrintScreen doesn't work with sdl1.2 |
13:36 |
* jordach |
wonders if the forums has a mark all posts read feature |
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13:51 |
jordach |
john_minetest, OpenSpades works on windows |
13:51 |
jordach |
mine is fixed so the on map load = crash is gone |
13:52 |
jordach |
you want a copy? |
13:55 |
Mossmanikin |
software isn't proprietary, people are |
13:55 |
_0gb_us_ |
Actually, yeah, there is proprietary software. |
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13:56 |
_0gb_us_ |
It's everywhere. |
13:56 |
jordach |
john_minetest, okay |
13:56 |
arsdragonfly1 |
double-clicking on servers always makes it log in with an empty password |
13:57 |
arsdragonfly1 |
is that normal? |
13:57 |
jordach |
john_minetest, windows right |
13:57 |
jordach |
zipping, then uploading |
13:57 |
Mossmanikin |
just luv 2 play with words ;) |
13:58 |
jordach |
john_minetest, gimme 10 mins, uploading Evergreen's ubuntu OpenSpades :) |
13:58 |
_0gb_us_ |
arsdragonfly, I have that issue when single-clicking sometimes. |
13:59 |
arsdragonfly1 |
jordach does openspades enable modified accurancy of rifle? |
13:59 |
jordach |
arsdragonfly, nope |
14:00 |
jordach |
bullet detection isn't as good as the normal client |
14:00 |
arsdragonfly1 |
it's said that rifles were nerfed in 0.75 |
14:00 |
jordach |
correct |
14:01 |
jordach |
but boosted again in 0.76 |
14:01 |
arsdragonfly1 |
and can't be more accurate without changing the client |
14:01 |
jordach |
bollocks |
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14:02 |
jordach |
sfan5's upload service 0 - Mediafire 1 |
14:02 |
arsdragonfly1 |
there's a nice voxel fps called iceball out there |
14:03 |
jordach |
eww |
14:03 |
arsdragonfly1 |
iceballga.me |
14:03 |
jordach |
i'd rather play the original |
14:09 |
jordach |
john_minetest, 7 mins remaining |
14:10 |
jordach |
wait WHAT |
14:10 |
jordach |
I can use digital audio through my regular ports in PulseAudio and it cracks and pops at 100% |
14:11 |
jordach |
but as soon as I change it to my ANALOG headset, it stops cracking |
14:11 |
_0gb_us_ |
That's odd. |
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14:13 |
jordach |
FUUUUCCCKKKKK NOOOOOOooo! Gimp 2.8 :( |
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14:14 |
Spitfire57 |
Hello everyone |
14:14 |
jordach |
_0gb_us_, http://i.imgur.com/orr48jZ.png |
14:14 |
Spitfire57 |
Could anyone please help me? I have a little bit trouble with setting up my server |
14:15 |
_0gb_us_ |
Is that an outdated version or something? |
14:15 |
_0gb_us_ |
I use GIMP, but I don't know what version I have, especially on my new system. |
14:15 |
Mossmanikin |
Hi Spitfire57 |
14:15 |
jordach |
2.8 is most recent _0gb_us_ |
14:15 |
jordach |
and they removed Save As |
14:15 |
jordach |
now it's export with a different shortcut |
14:16 |
* jordach |
prefers ctrl + shift + s |
14:16 |
_0gb_us_ |
Hmm. Seems I have an older version, 2.6.12. |
14:16 |
jordach |
LUCKY. BASTARD. |
14:16 |
jordach |
john_minetest, 3 mins |
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14:17 |
jordach |
you better be sure you have OpenGL 2.1.x |
14:17 |
_0gb_us_ |
What is the issue, Spitfire57 |
14:17 |
_0gb_us_ |
? |
14:18 |
_0gb_us_ |
jordach, I'm not sure what you're showing me in that shot. |
14:18 |
jordach |
_0gb_us_, i have two different audio drivers -- the Headset uses the SAME PORTS as the inbuilt analog audio |
14:19 |
Spitfire57 |
I have set up a machine via VPS. I want the server to be private but unfortunately "guests" keep connecting. I defined a password via .conf and disallowed empty passwords but the guests keep coming |
14:19 |
jordach |
Spitfire57, peacock has a mod that bans guests |
14:19 |
jordach |
but he's not here |
14:20 |
_0gb_us_ |
O think you sent me the wrong shot if you're trying to show me a lack of a menu option; that is not the GIMP menu. |
14:20 |
_0gb_us_ |
*I |
14:20 |
_0gb_us_ |
That sucks that they removed that option though; I use it all the time. |
14:20 |
jordach |
john_minetest, 40 seconds |
14:20 |
Spitfire57 |
jordach: isn't there a possibility to prevent anyone from the server except the ones who have the password (what a password protected server basically should do ;)) |
14:20 |
jordach |
Spitfire57, it's just a name, the server doesnt care for names |
14:21 |
jordach |
although an idea has been rattling in my head for a few days: disallow guests to join servers through the conf |
14:22 |
jordach |
john_minetest, http://www.mediafire.com/download/gi552pv9wdtvjet/OpenSpades-0.0.8b-Windows.zip |
14:22 |
Spitfire57 |
I don't think I can follow you: There are only 3 people who have the PW, but guests can connect anyway? |
14:22 |
jordach |
they shouldnt |
14:22 |
Spitfire57 |
well, they can :( |
14:22 |
_0gb_us_ |
I wonder what would posses them to remove that ... |
14:23 |
jordach |
Spitfire57, you might want the option https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L234 |
14:23 |
Spitfire57 |
That's what I did already... I'm fairly new to setting up servers via SSH. Maybe I edited a wrong file... |
14:23 |
jordach |
Spitfire57, you want to edit minetest.conf |
14:24 |
jordach |
not the example |
14:24 |
jordach |
(it's generated with minetest or minetestserver is started) |
14:24 |
Spitfire57 |
Yeah, that's what I did |
14:24 |
jordach |
dont put hashes infront of the settings: hashes are comments |
14:25 |
_0gb_us_ |
jordach, I agree, control + shift + s is the easiest way to do it. That shouldn't be removed ... |
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14:25 |
Spitfire57 |
What I meant by "wrong file" is, that I fidled around on the new server yesterday and I'm not shure, wether there is a second installation somewhere deep inside the linux datasystem (which I'm fairly new to) |
14:25 |
_0gb_us_ |
Also, add the settings while Minetest is not running. |
14:26 |
Spitfire57 |
Ahhh this might help |
14:27 |
Spitfire57 |
On the other hand: I tested it, was asked for the PW - worked like a charm. 30secs later, there is a guest |
14:27 |
jordach |
Spitfire57, the guests might be your users |
14:27 |
jordach |
tell them to create their own name |
14:27 |
Spitfire57 |
I'm 100% sure they were not |
14:28 |
* jordach |
pokes Evergreen |
14:28 |
* sfan5 |
pokes jordach |
14:28 |
sfan5 |
hi everyone |
14:28 |
jordach |
sfan5, i compiled OpenSpades for Evergreen |
14:28 |
_0gb_us_ |
Hello! |
14:28 |
Spitfire57 |
hi there |
14:28 |
jordach |
using your patch applied by hand (due to the patch glitches) |
14:29 |
jordach |
anyways, brb - returning to windows |
14:29 |
sfan5 |
:/ |
14:29 |
Spitfire57 |
ok, I just tested it and I must have done something wrong with the conf-file. One of my users could connect whithout PW |
14:29 |
jordach |
sfan5, i can get 23fps with openspades |
14:29 |
jordach |
compared to 60fps on windows |
14:31 |
Mossmanikin |
Everytime someone pokes someone I see a cell hitting another cell in the game SPORE :D |
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14:35 |
Jordach |
and im back |
14:36 |
Spitfire57 |
wb |
14:36 |
Jordach |
81.154.25.249 <- i am running a non listed pysnip server (john_minetest, sfan5) |
14:37 |
sfan5 |
I'm ready |
14:37 |
Jordach |
john_minetest, using the client as you |
14:38 |
Jordach |
same client* |
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14:38 |
Jordach |
when the map generates OS just goes mental |
14:39 |
Jordach |
john_minetest, 81.154.25.249 <- paste the IP into the bar (no aos:// needed) |
14:40 |
Zeg9 |
Hi there |
14:41 |
* Zeg9 |
is cloning openspades |
14:42 |
Zeg9 |
:p |
14:42 |
_0gb_us_ |
Hello! |
14:42 |
Zeg9 |
Hi 0gb.us |
14:44 |
_0gb_us_ |
Hello, Zeg9! |
14:45 |
Zeg9 |
Hey |
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14:50 |
Spitfire57 |
Jordach: Still there? |
14:51 |
Spitfire57 |
Or anyone else who could help me with conf-issues? |
14:52 |
sfan5 |
Spitfire57: whats your problem? |
14:53 |
PilzAdam |
Spitfire57, do not ask for someone specific if you have a genral question |
14:54 |
Spitfire57 |
Sry: The specific problem is: I entered the default_pw option into the .conf and the disallow_empty_pw as well. I'm pretty sure, that minetestserver uses the right config file. And still no one is asked for a PW |
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14:56 |
Jordach |
Spitfire57, restart minetestserver |
14:56 |
Jordach |
conf changes are loaded at startup |
14:57 |
Spitfire57 |
Erm... would players that have been on the server before still be asked for the PW? |
14:57 |
Jordach |
yes |
14:57 |
Jordach |
it's asked by default |
14:58 |
Spitfire57 |
server has been restarted several times (the vitual machine as well) |
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Spitfire57 |
Ok, I think, we got it |
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14:59 |
Spitfire57 |
When I try to connect with a different Username, I'm beeing asked for the PW |
15:00 |
PilzAdam |
users that already have a password dont need the defaut password |
15:00 |
Spitfire57 |
The thing is: They originally had no pw |
15:01 |
PilzAdam |
then they need the default password, I think |
15:01 |
Spitfire57 |
It's working now. I wasn't aware of the fact, that known users don't need to enter the first PW ever set in the conf |
15:02 |
Spitfire57 |
Thanks to anyone who helped :) |
15:05 |
sfan5 |
Zeg9: did openspades compile? |
15:05 |
Zeg9 |
It just did |
15:06 |
Zeg9 |
Great timing. :D |
15:06 |
sfan5 |
join! |
15:06 |
sfan5 |
john_cephalopoda: try joining too |
15:06 |
Zeg9 |
I had a problem with angelscript but I sorted it out |
15:07 |
sfan5 |
.. |
15:07 |
Zeg9 |
brb :-/ |
15:07 |
sfan5 |
:-/ |
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Zeg9 |
sfan5: got an error when I start it |
15:14 |
Zeg9 |
http://pastie.org/private/ar5zgrv8rqhihufbc75uww |
15:15 |
sfan5 |
don't cd into bin |
15:15 |
Zeg9 |
I didn't |
15:15 |
sfan5 |
... |
15:15 |
sfan5 |
o |
15:15 |
Zeg9 |
I'm in /build/ |
15:15 |
sfan5 |
oh |
15:15 |
sfan5 |
cd .. |
15:15 |
Zeg9 |
maybe I shou |
15:15 |
Zeg9 |
oops |
15:15 |
Zeg9 |
ah, works |
15:16 |
sfan5 |
you also need to download and extract the packs pointed at resources/<somefile>.txt |
15:16 |
sfan5 |
and then join the Jordach's server |
15:16 |
Jordach |
81.154.25.249 <- there it is btw |
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Jordach |
thats not good |
15:21 |
Jordach |
openspades stopped working |
15:21 |
GNADev|zRokh |
aye doods, know what? my dad first didnt want me to code and shit but now he wants me to make a Company website for him :D |
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GNADev|zRokh |
im siked as fuck right now :D |
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15:23 |
Evergreen |
Jordach: I'm back |
15:23 |
Evergreen |
Where is the build? :D |
15:27 |
* Evergreen |
pokes Jordach |
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Evergreen |
Jordach *ping* |
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sfan5 |
Evergreen: jordach is playing |
15:45 |
Evergreen |
Okay, can't wait to play with you guys once I get it working |
15:54 |
* Evergreen |
is afk |
15:54 |
Evergreen |
If you see jordach, tell him to post the link. I can scroll back up |
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Jordach |
Evergreen, back |
16:01 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, http://www.mediafire.com/download/hd4vebsy9zzz0c5/openspades-0.0.8b.zip |
16:01 |
Jordach |
open that up and run OpenSpades |
16:01 |
Jordach |
(the file with gears, or similar) |
16:01 |
Jordach |
81.154.25.249 <- then paste this ip into the quick connect bar |
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sfan5 |
Jordach: brb |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam, client died again |
16:21 |
PilzAdam |
brb |
16:21 |
Jordach |
oh |
16:21 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, OpenSpades going yet |
16:22 |
Jordach |
we should have OpenSpades Minetest community matches |
16:23 |
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16:23 |
Jordach |
Calinou, you should play OpenSpades, sfan5 knows how to compile it |
16:24 |
Calinou |
tell me how then :> |
16:24 |
Calinou |
haven't found how to compile it |
16:24 |
Jordach |
i have a 32bit binary in my mediafire for Evergreen |
16:24 |
Jordach |
http://www.mediafire.com/download/hd4vebsy9zzz0c5/openspades-0.0.8b.zip <- Calinou |
16:24 |
Jordach |
works like a run-in-place minetest |
16:25 |
PilzAdam |
I got it compiled, I can write how |
16:25 |
Calinou |
do that :P |
16:25 |
Jordach |
i have a server running as well |
16:25 |
Jordach |
<Jordach> 81.154.25.249 <- then paste this ip into the quick connect bar |
16:26 |
Jordach |
I'll wait for PilzAdam, sfan5, Evergreen, Calinou so that everyone is ready |
16:26 |
Jordach |
oh, and john_minetest if he comes back |
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16:30 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/813b7add5cc4d7ad41b6 |
16:32 |
Jordach |
oh, i used a different method |
16:32 |
Evergreen |
Thank you very much jordach |
16:32 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, does it work |
16:33 |
Evergreen |
Just got back, we'll see if it does |
16:33 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, changed last step a bit, reload |
16:33 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, how did you build? |
16:33 |
Jordach |
manually applying sfan5's patch by hand |
16:33 |
PilzAdam |
what patch? |
16:33 |
Jordach |
one of his pasties |
16:33 |
Calinou |
/usr/include/c++/4.7/bits/c++0x_warning.h:32:2: erreur: #error This file requires compiler and library support for the ISO C++ 2011 standard. This support is currently experimental, and must be enabled with the -std=c++11 or -std=gnu++11 compiler options. |
16:34 |
Evergreen |
Nope, it is missing libGLEW.so.1.8 |
16:34 |
PilzAdam |
oh ,right |
16:34 |
Evergreen |
Doesn't work |
16:34 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, sry, forgot to add one step |
16:34 |
Evergreen |
D: |
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16:34 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, add the libxyz-dev |
16:34 |
Jordach |
oh, and install clang and clang++ |
16:34 |
Evergreen |
did already |
16:35 |
Jordach |
Calinou, it builds with clang |
16:35 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, reload |
16:35 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, no, builds fine with g++ |
16:36 |
Evergreen |
Jordach: Can't find libxyz |
16:36 |
* Evergreen |
has to go |
16:36 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, remove all contents of openspades.mk after changing CMakelists.txt |
16:36 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: I'm back |
16:37 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, Ill join if Calinou has no more problems |
16:37 |
PilzAdam |
*when |
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16:42 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, added one last step, reload |
16:42 |
PilzAdam |
for some reason there is no make install |
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16:46 |
ShadowNinja |
I compiled OpenSpades, but now it can't load Main.as. I hope this doesn't require a systemwide installation... |
16:46 |
Jordach |
it doesnt |
16:46 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: see resources/*.txt |
16:46 |
sfan5 |
and you need to run it from the main folder |
16:46 |
sfan5 |
(not /bin or /<buildfoldername>) |
16:47 |
Calinou |
hmm, looks like I got an error, it stopped at 64% |
16:47 |
sfan5 |
which file? |
16:47 |
Calinou |
yet "Linking CXX executable ../bin/OpenSpades [100%] Built target OpenSpades" appears |
16:47 |
Exio4 |
your cpu is too slow for compiling it |
16:47 |
Exio4 |
overclock up to 7ghz |
16:47 |
sfan5 |
heh |
16:47 |
ShadowNinja |
Now it can't find Gfx/banner.png... |
16:48 |
Calinou |
oh |
16:48 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: see Resources/readme.txt |
16:48 |
PilzAdam |
ShadowNinja, how have you build it? |
16:48 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: Resources/PakLocation.txt* |
16:49 |
PilzAdam |
ShadowNinja, https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/813b7add5cc4d7ad41b6#file-gistfile1-txt-L12 |
16:49 |
PilzAdam |
follow this line |
16:49 |
PilzAdam |
btw, my method creates a system wide version, but for some reason there is no make install |
16:50 |
PilzAdam |
so just run it from bin/ but it will take the resources from ~/.openspades |
16:51 |
PilzAdam |
anyway, is someone on the server? |
16:51 |
Jordach |
nope |
16:51 |
Jordach |
coming |
16:51 |
ShadowNinja |
I already did all that, although I also applied sfan's patch. |
16:51 |
PilzAdam |
I dunno what sfan5's patch does |
16:51 |
ShadowNinja |
(With the exception of the recources) |
16:51 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: it fixes things |
16:51 |
PilzAdam |
what things? |
16:52 |
PilzAdam |
(just link the patch) |
16:52 |
sfan5 |
https://gist.github.com/sfan5/6612057 |
16:52 |
PilzAdam |
I fixed ConcurrentDispatch.cpp in a different way... |
16:53 |
PilzAdam |
https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/813b7add5cc4d7ad41b6#file-gistfile1-txt-L10 |
16:53 |
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16:53 |
ShadowNinja |
It runns now. :-) |
16:53 |
ShadowNinja |
-n |
16:53 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, do you have any problems left? |
16:54 |
sfan5 |
so unistd.h undefines _SC_NPROCESSORS_ONLN wat |
16:54 |
Calinou |
wait |
16:54 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, unistd.h defines it, but with the #ifs arround it it isnt included |
16:54 |
sfan5 |
oh |
16:55 |
Calinou |
http://paste.ubuntu.com/6124702/ |
16:55 |
Calinou |
:| |
16:55 |
sfan5 |
run from main dir |
16:55 |
PilzAdam |
copy the content of ../Resources/ to ~/.openspades/Resources |
16:56 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, that you connected to my server |
16:56 |
PilzAdam |
you could also try to copy the Resources to ./Resources/ |
16:57 |
PilzAdam |
dunno if you actually need that at first startup, but it works for me without it |
16:57 |
Jordach |
who is this guy: 2013-09-18 17:54:54+0100 [-] Deuce3 (IP 67.241.154.164, ID 3) entered the game! |
16:57 |
sfan5 |
your mom? |
16:58 |
Jordach |
lol |
16:58 |
* sfan5 |
plols |
16:58 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, hurry up! I wanna play ;-) |
16:59 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: Yes. |
16:59 |
Jordach |
busted. |
16:59 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, go to the graphics tab and change yer damn name |
16:59 |
PilzAdam |
ShadowNinja, protip: you can change your nick |
16:59 |
ShadowNinja |
OpenSpades captures my mouse so I can't use IRC. :-( |
16:59 |
PilzAdam |
^ this sux |
17:00 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, quassel lets me type without having to focus on the chat bar |
17:00 |
Jordach |
another win for quassel |
17:00 |
Calinou |
still doesn't work PilzAdam |
17:00 |
Calinou |
same error |
17:00 |
* ShadowNinja |
uses quassel |
17:00 |
Jordach |
Calinou, sudo apt-get install clang clang++ |
17:00 |
Jordach |
i built fine with clang |
17:00 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, he already compiled... |
17:01 |
Calinou |
the binary seems to work |
17:01 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, so, you have 3 resources folders: in the main directory openspades-master, then in openspades-master/openspades.mk and in ~/.openspades |
17:01 |
PilzAdam |
do they all have the same content? |
17:02 |
Calinou |
yes, but the main one has one .sh script |
17:02 |
PilzAdam |
you need Scripts/ Shaders/ and 3 .pak files |
17:02 |
Exio4 |
wat |
17:03 |
Calinou |
looks like it works |
17:03 |
PilzAdam |
I think only the one in ~/.openspades is relevant, though |
17:04 |
Calinou |
"AA: Custom" lol'd |
17:04 |
PilzAdam |
so it works now? |
17:04 |
PilzAdam |
great |
17:04 |
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17:07 |
Calinou |
hello app that I can't alt tab out |
17:07 |
Calinou |
hello app I can't disable sound on |
17:07 |
[0gb_us] |
Hello, Calinou! |
17:07 |
[0gb_us] |
What application? |
17:09 |
Calinou |
hi [0gb_us] |
17:09 |
Calinou |
wasn't talking to you |
17:09 |
Calinou |
OpenSpades |
17:10 |
[0gb_us] |
I know you weren't, but I was curious/nosy. Sorry about that. |
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17:11 |
Calinou |
no problem :) |
17:12 |
[0gb_us] |
Hmm. Well, I got my Freenode account back, but it'll take time to finish downloading my backup .tar.gz file which happens to have my other passwords in it. |
17:13 |
[0gb_us] |
It sucks not even being able to get into my email .... |
17:13 |
thexyz |
how did that happen? |
17:15 |
[0gb_us] |
I ran a script that was supposed to convert my Ubuntu-based system to Trisquel. Being paranoid, I backed up all my files first. The script botched my system so it wouldn't even load past the splash screen. Now i have to download the backup I made before this started. |
17:15 |
[0gb_us] |
*I |
17:15 |
[0gb_us] |
(My shift key is also jammed.) |
17:16 |
sfan5 |
goddmanit |
17:16 |
sfan5 |
*goddamnit |
17:16 |
PilzAdam |
Disconnected for unknown reason... :-/ |
17:16 |
Peacock |
stpo whacking and it wont jam :P |
17:16 |
Peacock |
(baby jesus cries when you do that) |
17:16 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, join 81.154.25.249 btw |
17:16 |
* [0gb_us] |
considers this advice, but loves playing Whack-a-Mole on his keyboard |
17:17 |
Calinou |
yes |
17:17 |
[0gb_us] |
Plus, baby Jesus grew up (so is no longer a baby) then died (so no longer cries). |
17:18 |
Peacock |
then how do you explain the rain? |
17:18 |
Calinou |
... |
17:18 |
Calinou |
are the keys even changeable? |
17:19 |
thexyz |
[0gb_us]: can't you boot live usb and recover everything? |
17:19 |
Calinou |
and is the only way to get vsync is to use an application profile? |
17:19 |
[0gb_us] |
Rain is caused by evaporation and condensation. If that were tears, I'd want to cause more sadness. I love the rain. |
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17:20 |
[0gb_us] |
thexyz, how do you recover with a live CD without losing your data? It's too late now, I used the live CD to wipe the system and make it usable again, but for next time. |
17:20 |
Rhy5 |
Hi everyone! Rhys Here. |
17:20 |
[0gb_us] |
Hello! |
17:21 |
Peacock |
you dont say |
17:21 |
Rhy5 |
Carry on with your convo, don't mind me. |
17:21 |
thexyz |
[0gb_us]: you boot it up and copy all your data somewhere |
17:21 |
Calinou |
hi Rhy5 :) |
17:21 |
thexyz |
or you just figure what's the problem and fix it |
17:21 |
thexyz |
since it's not windows |
17:21 |
Rhy5 |
You know what really startles me? :D |
17:22 |
Rhy5 |
Awkward Silence. |
17:22 |
Jordach |
can i restart the PySnip server PilzAdam, ShadowNinja and sfan5 |
17:22 |
Rhy5 |
Very awkward... |
17:22 |
Rhy5 |
Ah, thats better. |
17:22 |
[0gb_us] |
thexyz, I already copied all my data to my server before I got myself into this mess, it's just taking forever to download the backup. |
17:22 |
Jordach |
settings don't take effect until restart |
17:23 |
Rhy5 |
So, yes, what startles me is that I always get someone to say hi to me, every day. xD. |
17:23 |
Rhy5 |
Well, I don't make them, they just say hi. |
17:23 |
* Rhy5 |
blushes |
17:23 |
[0gb_us] |
I don't know how to figure out the problem in the system to fix it though. I'm not much of a tech wiz. |
17:24 |
Jordach |
Calinou, you can change keys |
17:24 |
Rhy5 |
I'm not into techinal stuff. |
17:25 |
Rhy5 |
Just the usual modding, playing Minetest, finding mese, the ore that came from c55's mind. |
17:25 |
Rhy5 |
I have to go now, though, bye! |
17:25 |
Calinou |
bye Rhy5 |
17:25 |
Rhy5 |
That was quick. xD. |
17:25 |
* Rhy5 |
waves... |
17:26 |
PilzAdam |
Ill rejoin in a sec. |
17:26 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: please note that I play in fullscreen and it is painful to minimize the window |
17:26 |
ShadowNinja |
That runs smothly even with all of the graphics settings maxed out. Including shader water. |
17:27 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, Calinou, PilzAdam, sfan5: it's up |
17:27 |
[0gb_us] |
What is this game about/like? It seems to be the hot topic today. |
17:28 |
Calinou |
"Shams Little Pony" plol |
17:28 |
ShadowNinja |
[0gb_us]: It is a open-source clone of lasic ace-of-spades. |
17:28 |
ShadowNinja |
classic* |
17:28 |
[0gb_us] |
I don't know Ace of Spades though, so I don't know what that means. |
17:29 |
Calinou |
oh I found key config |
17:29 |
Calinou |
it's quite hidden |
17:29 |
* [0gb_us] |
uses control + h |
17:30 |
Calinou |
it's not a file |
17:31 |
[0gb_us] |
I suppose those key strokes don't help then. |
17:34 |
* Calinou |
strokes [0gb_us]'s keys |
17:36 |
[0gb_us] |
What? |
17:36 |
[0gb_us] |
Hands off my keyboard, if you don't mind. |
17:36 |
[0gb_us] |
I have some spares if you need one, but this one's built into my notebook. |
17:38 |
* [0gb_us] |
wishes the download would go faster, and realizes that next time, he should create several .tar.gz files, so he can download the ones he needs first and have access to his important stuff while the rest downloads |
17:39 |
[0gb_us] |
Lumping all my files into one .tar.gz was a bad idea. |
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17:57 |
Jordach |
we should have: well known members of the minetest community VS the guests |
17:57 |
PilzAdam |
"Disconnected: Unknown Reason" |
17:58 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, killed server to change game time |
17:58 |
PilzAdam |
did we won the last round? your intel was closer to our base :-) |
17:58 |
* ShadowNinja |
didn't like that map. |
17:59 |
[0gb_us] |
"Die, server, die!", Jordach say while stabbing the machine repeatedly with a large knife. |
17:59 |
PilzAdam |
was like Metro in BF3 |
17:59 |
[0gb_us] |
*says |
17:59 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, when is it up again? |
18:00 |
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18:01 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, I guess Ill eat now; I can join again in ~20 Minutes |
18:01 |
Calinou |
have a good meal PilzAdam :) |
18:01 |
Jordach |
it's up |
18:01 |
Jordach |
an hour is default game time now |
18:01 |
Jordach |
Calinou, join us! |
18:02 |
Jordach |
81.154.25.249 <- then paste this ip into the quick connect bar |
18:03 |
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18:11 |
Inocudom |
I gave Cube 2 Sauerbraten another try recently. I didn't like it much because most of its maps were pretty bad and having custom player models in it is impossible. |
18:12 |
Calinou |
it wasn't made for custom models |
18:12 |
Calinou |
most maps are very old |
18:12 |
Calinou |
Inocudom: try Red Eclipse |
18:12 |
Calinou |
it's based on Sauerbraten, but it's better in many ways :P |
18:12 |
Inocudom |
There is an updated version of it known as Tesseract, but that version is impossible to download. |
18:12 |
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18:12 |
Inocudom |
What benefits does Red Eclipse have? |
18:13 |
Calinou |
it is, it's a SVN repo, but you need to compile it yourself |
18:13 |
Calinou |
more modes, better map editing, using custom maps in multiplayer is much easier, slightly moddable game |
18:13 |
Calinou |
parkour (:D) |
18:13 |
Calinou |
you can run on walls :P |
18:15 |
Inocudom |
I tried downloading Tesseract from its new repository, but the resulting compressed file will not open (even though PeaZip should be able to open it.) |
18:15 |
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18:16 |
Inocudom |
Tesseract has dynamic lighting in it, which is why I was interested in it. |
18:17 |
ImQ009 |
Oh |
18:18 |
Inocudom |
MirceaKitsune tried to give Minetest dynamic lighting, but was unsuccessful. We don't see MirceaKitsune much these days. |
18:18 |
ImQ009 |
Inocudom, You need an SVN client for Tesseract |
18:18 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: 1 hour is too much |
18:18 |
sfan5 |
try 15 mins or 20 |
18:18 |
ImQ009 |
Anyway, it's a bad engine for Minecraft-like games |
18:19 |
ImQ009 |
The renderer isn't designed for large open worlds |
18:20 |
Inocudom |
The Cube engine cannot handle large worlds? Is that why the vast majority of the maps are very small? |
18:20 |
ImQ009 |
Yes |
18:20 |
ImQ009 |
There's no LOD at all |
18:20 |
Jordach |
time limit set to 30 mins |
18:20 |
[0gb_us] |
"LOD"? |
18:20 |
Inocudom |
That is an extremely bad flaw. |
18:20 |
Jordach |
sfan5, Calinou, ShadowNinja: server online |
18:20 |
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18:21 |
ImQ009 |
Inocudom, Flaw or not, it's not supposed to be used that way in the first place :P |
18:21 |
Inocudom |
Now I know why most of Cube 2's maps are small. It is because they have to be small. |
18:21 |
ImQ009 |
They either have to be small |
18:21 |
ImQ009 |
Or occluded |
18:21 |
Calinou |
Inocudom: MirceaKitsune is Taoki btw |
18:22 |
Calinou |
ImQ009: its renderer does okay on open maps. |
18:22 |
Calinou |
[0gb_us]: LOD = Level of Detail |
18:22 |
ImQ009 |
Calinou, I don't think you get it |
18:22 |
Calinou |
it's 2013, GPUs can draw tons of polys |
18:22 |
ImQ009 |
Do yoiu? |
18:22 |
Inocudom |
He changed his name recently? |
18:22 |
Calinou |
it isn't that needed |
18:22 |
Calinou |
ImQ009: I do |
18:22 |
ImQ009 |
How big are Minecraft maps? |
18:22 |
Calinou |
only a portion of it is rendered at the same time |
18:22 |
ImQ009 |
And how big are Cube 2 maps? |
18:22 |
Exio4 |
look at MT |
18:22 |
ImQ009 |
It's only a few of the points |
18:23 |
Exio4 |
64000^3 |
18:23 |
ImQ009 |
The engine takes care of the WHOLE world, in a single chunk |
18:23 |
ImQ009 |
It's not divided in any way |
18:23 |
Inocudom |
Most of the Cube 2 maps that come with the game are very small and very bland. |
18:23 |
ImQ009 |
Making it impossibble to use in huge maps |
18:23 |
ImQ009 |
The engine simply wouldn't be able to handle it |
18:23 |
ImQ009 |
It's not just the LOD here |
18:23 |
Exio4 |
cube 2 is oldish |
18:23 |
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18:23 |
ImQ009 |
Exio4, Tesseract |
18:23 |
Exio4 |
it has the "bottlenecks" of its times :P |
18:24 |
ImQ009 |
Inocudom, Most of the maps are old :P |
18:24 |
ImQ009 |
The newer maps actually have plenty of details |
18:24 |
Inocudom |
It is a good thing that Minetest uses Irrilicht then. |
18:25 |
ImQ009 |
Tesseract is a good engine |
18:25 |
ImQ009 |
for FPS games |
18:25 |
Inocudom |
They should drop the old maps. I don't care at all for any of them. |
18:25 |
ImQ009 |
Inocudom, That's a really REALLY bad idea |
18:25 |
ImQ009 |
It's not just about the looks |
18:25 |
ImQ009 |
but about the gameplay, y'know |
18:25 |
ImQ009 |
Many of the maps are known and played often because of their layout or whatever |
18:25 |
Inocudom |
How does it compare to DarkPlaces? Xonotic has some massive maps (the vehicle maps.) |
18:26 |
ImQ009 |
DarkPlaces is a totally different thing |
18:26 |
Calinou |
too bad RE isn't going to use tesseract |
18:26 |
ImQ009 |
It has LOD, it can handle large open maps |
18:26 |
Calinou |
if they were made for |
18:26 |
Calinou |
also enjoy your huge compile times |
18:26 |
ImQ009 |
Calinou, IMO, it's good they're not going to do that :P |
18:26 |
ImQ009 |
For obvious reasons |
18:27 |
Calinou |
smaller maps (= people may play on custom maps more often), way better looks |
18:27 |
Calinou |
if you turn all the settings down the hardware cost is reasonable |
18:27 |
ImQ009 |
Way better looks? |
18:27 |
ImQ009 |
On what side? |
18:27 |
Calinou |
but the game is unplayable on any open source drivers :D |
18:27 |
ImQ009 |
Tesseract looks pretty much the same as Cube 2 |
18:27 |
Calinou |
ImQ009: lighting properly cast on models (maybe this could be redone without tesseract, not sure, seen TF2 do that) |
18:27 |
ImQ009 |
Except the lighting is dynamic |
18:28 |
Calinou |
TF2 uses lightmaps and lighting is properly cast on models |
18:28 |
Inocudom |
Another flaw of Cube 2 is that custom player models are completely and entirely impossible. |
18:28 |
Calinou |
not that hard to fix |
18:28 |
Calinou |
it's just sauerbraten devs being monolithic |
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18:28 |
ImQ009 |
Inocudom, It's not a flaw of the engine :P |
18:28 |
Inocudom |
Quake 3 and Half Life allow for custom player models. |
18:28 |
THEFAMILYALLCAPS |
HOWDY FOLKS |
18:29 |
ImQ009 |
Be reasonable |
18:29 |
ImQ009 |
That's a totally different thing |
18:29 |
Inocudom |
It would figure that it would be a fault of the game, not of the engine. |
18:29 |
ImQ009 |
Game implementation - engine implementation |
18:29 |
ImQ009 |
And no, you can have custom player models |
18:29 |
ImQ009 |
If you replace them |
18:30 |
Inocudom |
It would only work if you replaced the default ones. You can't have the custom player models and the default ones. |
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18:30 |
ImQ009 |
Yeah but it's easy to get that working though |
18:30 |
Inocudom |
All of the models would sound exactly the same anyway. |
18:31 |
ImQ009 |
A small modification in the code :3 |
18:31 |
Inocudom |
I would hope that somebody would decide to make a mod that did those things. |
18:32 |
Inocudom |
Jordach posted an image of a new would configuration feature. |
18:35 |
Inocudom |
When was the last time Taoki was on? |
18:35 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: do you have a nuketown map by any chance? |
18:36 |
sfan5 |
!seen Taoki |
18:36 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen taoki around. |
18:36 |
Jordach |
sfan5, no |
18:36 |
sfan5 |
:/ |
18:36 |
Jordach |
sfan5, there is one about |
18:36 |
Jordach |
one of the servers has one |
18:36 |
sfan5 |
that is why I'm asking |
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18:37 |
ShadowNinja |
OpenSpades could use some work on the connecting phase. Is the whole map sent on connect? |
18:37 |
ShadowNinja |
Even then it shouldn't take so long. |
18:38 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: it downloads the pack files because you have the dev version and jordach the stable |
18:38 |
ShadowNinja |
You only need a few bits for color and durability. durabulity of 0 == air. |
18:39 |
sfan5 |
(I hope i guessed that right) |
18:39 |
ShadowNinja |
Yes, I have latest git. |
18:39 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: Update! |
18:39 |
Jordach |
sfan5, http://forumarchive2.spadille.net/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=11021&hilit=nuketown&sid=ae37d035b1d28176613acc6c021cf557 |
18:41 |
sfan5 |
dwnl |
18:41 |
Jordach |
nuketown added to rotation |
18:41 |
sfan5 |
*download the tdm one |
18:41 |
sfan5 |
can we have it now? |
18:41 |
sfan5 |
or atleast one we didn't have yet |
18:41 |
* PilzAdam |
can play now |
18:41 |
* sfan5 |
can too |
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18:42 |
sfan5 |
101 ppl here! \o/ |
18:42 |
pitriss |
Hi. Some time ago there was discussion about translating client.. And I have (probably stupid) question.. Whats a point of translated client, when mods doesn't use gettext? |
18:42 |
Jordach |
current map is now nuketown |
18:42 |
* sfan5 |
joins |
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18:43 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, wtf? |
18:43 |
PilzAdam |
I kept joining in water and insta-died |
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18:44 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, the spawns should have studck |
18:44 |
Jordach |
stuck( |
18:45 |
Pilcrow |
hey guys. first time using irc. did I make it to the minetest area? :) |
18:45 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: Can you disable anti-cheat on the server? That shoud halp lag telporting. |
18:45 |
sfan5 |
Pilcrow: yes |
18:45 |
Inocudom |
This is the #minetest irc channel, so I would say yes. |
18:46 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, the only anticheat is aimbot detection and speedhacking |
18:46 |
Calinou |
I thought Pilcrow was a joke name for PilzAdam O_o |
18:46 |
Jordach |
nuketown removed from rotation |
18:46 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: What server are you using? pysnip? pyspades? SpeedHacking sounds like the lag teleport causer. |
18:46 |
Pilcrow |
nope. a pilcrow is actually a grammatical symbol. I'm that kind of 'nerd'... |
18:46 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, disable speeedhacking |
18:47 |
PilzAdam |
choosing a nick doesnt really make you a nerd |
18:48 |
Jordach |
disabled |
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18:51 |
ShadowNinja |
Hmmm, it looks like it can use a IRC channel... |
18:52 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: #OpenSpadesInchraNet? |
18:53 |
Pilcrow |
oh, I qualify as a nerd anyway. anyhow, I've looked on the forums but can't find the protocol for releasing a gamepack. do I need a "credits" list if I've used some others' mods? |
18:54 |
sfan5 |
"protocol" please define |
18:54 |
ShadowNinja |
procedure |
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18:54 |
[0gb_us] |
Pilcrow, at least your name is pronounceable. ☺ |
18:55 |
ShadowNinja |
Pilcrow: Post links to the mods used in the modpack. |
18:56 |
Pilcrow |
well, I understand that I'd need to post into modding general and request a move, but I've used (and heavily modified) some mods others have made. |
18:56 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: is it up? |
18:56 |
sfan5 |
you still need to give credit |
18:56 |
Pilcrow |
I was thinking it'd be good to give credit where credit is due, but I've lost track of the original makers of some of these mods. |
18:57 |
sfan5 |
well then you need to find the authors again |
18:58 |
khonkhortisan |
hello ¶ilcrow |
18:58 |
sfan5 |
:¶ |
18:58 |
THEFAMILYALLCAPS |
pilzadamcrow? |
18:59 |
khonkhortisan |
no |
18:59 |
Pilcrow |
(for example, I made a 3d torches mod of my own, but heavily based it on 2 other mods, one by BlockMen and the other by someone else whose post is buried somewhere in modding general or old mods...) |
18:59 |
Jordach |
sfan5, online |
19:00 |
THEFAMILYALLCAPS |
I'd say that they're based on the following mods: <link to blockmen's torches>, <link to other buried torch mod> |
19:01 |
Pilcrow |
ok that answers that. long story short, I've got something I feel is decent but I can't release it yet, huh? |
19:05 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: Can you move this? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7239 |
19:14 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, the maps are too big |
19:16 |
Pilcrow |
well, thanks for the help, guys. off to work on that, then. |
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PilzAdam |
\o/ |
19:39 |
sfan5 |
\o/ |
19:39 |
sfan5 |
enough for today |
19:39 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, smaller maps now |
19:40 |
PilzAdam |
or I wonder if we should join a pub server with more players |
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19:41 |
Jordach |
we should put [MT] in front of our names |
19:41 |
PilzAdam |
yea |
19:41 |
PilzAdam |
which server? |
19:41 |
Jordach |
let's go to http://buildandshoot.com |
19:41 |
Jordach |
sfan5, there is a 24/7 nuketown server |
19:42 |
Pelayo |
is there any minimap mod? or a way to save and show waypoints distance even if there is no map? |
19:42 |
sfan5 |
that is the server I played on for the first time(yesterday) |
19:42 |
Jordach |
it's hectic |
19:43 |
PilzAdam |
so? what server? |
19:43 |
sfan5 |
which* |
19:44 |
Jordach |
nuketown is full. |
19:44 |
Jordach |
shams little pony? |
19:44 |
Jordach |
aos://4038426958:41000 |
19:45 |
Jordach |
(you can paste that into the quick connect as well as an ip) |
19:56 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: Can you move my mod post? See ^ |
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* Evergreen |
is back |
20:05 |
khonkhortisan |
:Evergreen!b8114347gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.17.67.71 PRIVMSG #minetest :[0001]ACTION is back[0001] |
20:05 |
* khonkhortisan |
found the raw log |
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20:17 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, sfan5: play some more tomorrow? |
20:17 |
Jordach |
moved ShadowNinja |
20:18 |
Jordach |
anyways - im off to bed; if i were allowed to stay up later; i would |
20:18 |
Jordach |
let's rampage some more servers (perhaps we should use mumble to our advantage) |
20:19 |
Tiktalik |
why doesn't minetest have infinite worlds? |
20:19 |
Exio4 |
because float limitations |
20:19 |
Exio4 |
anyway i don't get why more |
20:19 |
Exio4 |
32k is already a lot |
20:20 |
Tiktalik |
minecraft also has float limitations |
20:20 |
Tiktalik |
but you can go a lot farther |
20:20 |
Exio4 |
engine problems, it could be reworked and so on for using floats in other way |
20:21 |
Exio4 |
yet there isn't any point in doing that |
20:21 |
Tiktalik |
servers |
20:21 |
Exio4 |
the world is, in practice, already big |
20:21 |
Exio4 |
Tiktalik: fly from 32000,0,32000 to 0,0,0 |
20:21 |
Exio4 |
tell me how many minutes it took |
20:21 |
Exio4 |
:> |
20:22 |
Tiktalik |
yeah, but 30 million is better |
20:22 |
Tiktalik |
i mean |
20:22 |
Tiktalik |
would you rather have |
20:22 |
Tiktalik |
really big or infinite |
20:22 |
Exio4 |
infinite is impossible and really big is not worth the trouble |
20:22 |
Tiktalik |
really big is what you have |
20:22 |
Exio4 |
yet, i don't *seriously* get it |
20:22 |
Tiktalik |
infinite isn't really infinite |
20:22 |
Tiktalik |
but big enough that you'll never explore far enough to get to the ends |
20:23 |
Exio4 |
try to play in survival |
20:23 |
Exio4 |
and walk from spawn to a corner of the world |
20:23 |
Tiktalik |
you'll never be able to recreate the earth in minetest |
20:23 |
Tiktalik |
not at 1:1500 anyway :( |
20:26 |
Tiktalik |
Exio4: it's 32000 in every direction, right? |
20:26 |
Exio4 |
yes |
20:26 |
sfan5 |
Tiktalik: you won't be able to see the whole earth anyway |
20:26 |
Exio4 |
+32 and -32 |
20:27 |
sfan5 |
and the world will probably be too big for any currently existing storage medium |
20:27 |
Tiktalik |
sfan5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNbR_PIMJM |
20:27 |
Tiktalik |
minecraft |
20:27 |
Tiktalik |
8 gb |
20:27 |
Tiktalik |
also sfan5, I heard you had a new world format that was a lot smaller? |
20:28 |
Exio4 |
Tiktalik: take it in this way: it is not worth it |
20:28 |
sfan5 |
Tiktalik: I saw that on reddit when it was created |
20:28 |
sfan5 |
a new world format? |
20:28 |
sfan5 |
leveldb maybe |
20:28 |
Tiktalik |
yeah, leveldb |
20:28 |
Tiktalik |
instead of sqlite |
20:29 |
Tiktalik |
Exio4: how hard would it actually be in practice |
20:29 |
ShadowNinja |
Better yet is sophia, but we should implement libmtmap first. |
20:30 |
Exio4 |
Tiktalik: take it as a rework of the coords |
20:30 |
Exio4 |
because irrlicht uses float internally |
20:30 |
ShadowNinja |
Tiktalik: Very, very, very hard. You would have to change a lot of code. |
20:31 |
ShadowNinja |
I would like 32-bit, or even 64-bit coords. But the work required isn't worth it. |
20:31 |
Tiktalik |
why not have an int for every 64000x64000x64000, with float as position inside? |
20:31 |
Exio4 |
that is a rework |
20:31 |
Exio4 |
of the coords, and why the fuck would someone do that? |
20:32 |
Tiktalik |
hmph |
20:32 |
Tiktalik |
sounds like I'm going to have to get off my lazy bum |
20:32 |
ShadowNinja |
While we're at it, make it 1024-bit coords. :-) |
20:32 |
Tiktalik |
and learn some goddamn c++ |
20:35 |
thomasfuston |
lol |
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20:36 |
Tiktalik |
why wasn't it designed with 32 bit coords from the start though, Exio4? |
20:36 |
Exio4 |
ask c55 |
20:36 |
PilzAdam |
for the same reason why it wasnt designed with 1241564545614545 bit coords |
20:37 |
ShadowNinja |
Tiktalik: The aforementioned floats most likely, or 16-bit just seemed big enough. |
20:37 |
sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: build a 4096-bit CPU (well... if we have one we could also just factor 2048 or 4096 bit RSA) |
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ShadowNinja |
? |
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20:41 |
PilzAdam |
john_minetest, dunno, but nobody is playing anymore |
20:41 |
ShadowNinja |
I beleive not. |
20:41 |
PilzAdam |
we will play tomorrow again, I guess |
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jojoa1997 |
bas080 you there? |
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Peacock |
ugh, im either starting a cold or having allergies lol with the temperature up and down it's hard to tell |
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21:47 |
Peacock |
this mall turned out bigger than we thought https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=111074#p111074 |
21:47 |
Nolan_ |
kaeza are you there? |
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21:47 |
kaeza |
maybe |
21:47 |
Peacock |
lol |
21:47 |
Peacock |
kaeza: shoulda said "left ten minutes ago" :P |
21:48 |
kaeza |
:D |
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21:49 |
kaeza |
Peacock, interesting fact: xban banned 10 more "players" using the same IPs as those assholes :D |
21:49 |
Peacock |
BRs never learn lol |
21:49 |
jojoa1997 |
bas080, YOU THERE |
21:49 |
kaeza |
(and 3 or 4 more IPs too) |
21:50 |
Peacock |
maybe we should figure out a way to to ban by geolocation |
21:50 |
jojoa1997 |
lol tehn you go nextdoor and play |
21:51 |
Peacock |
next door as in next country? |
21:51 |
kaeza |
lol |
21:51 |
kaeza |
GL;HF |
21:52 |
Peacock |
though i do have one idea: makes a rules formspec popup on joinplayer |
21:52 |
Peacock |
have 3 buttons, |
21:52 |
Peacock |
accept, decline, and Portuguese version |
21:52 |
Peacock |
decline and portuguese would both ban the player XD |
21:55 |
Peacock |
another idea might be to give clients unique id's |
21:57 |
Peacock |
thats something you could generate when you compile, not sure how'd you do it with prepackaged builds though |
21:57 |
Peacock |
1st run probably |
22:00 |
Exio4 |
that sounds nice but easy to avoid/skip |
22:00 |
Exio4 |
if there was a "login server" it would be easier, though.. |
22:00 |
Peacock |
well, like when you require passwords, you could require the client have a unique id? |
22:01 |
Peacock |
simpler then, why not have the option of using forum credentials? |
22:01 |
Exio4 |
iirc there was some basic idea of doing that |
22:01 |
Exio4 |
ask thexyz :P |
22:02 |
Peacock |
he came up with that? nice, tho i thought he was all pro privacy/anonymity |
22:02 |
Peacock |
leave server admins the option of running their own credentials, or use forum credentials |
22:02 |
Peacock |
since the forum already verifies for bots and valid emails, its probably the best solution |
22:06 |
Peacock |
i can always tell who's a griefer when i ask them to go on the forum to request protection - they don't want to "create" an account, tho i suspect they already have one lol |
22:10 |
Exio4 |
banning per forum account would make random and casual griefers easy to ban |
22:10 |
Exio4 |
(or more like, make them dissapear) |
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* PilzAdam |
would write "Lua" in that line |
22:16 |
proller |
average size of... |
22:16 |
proller |
and^ |
22:20 |
Peacock |
what do you do when admins speak both english and french, and you have helpful german players? |
22:21 |
Peacock |
might be easier to show little flags in the language column |
22:23 |
Peacock |
no i mean little pictures of (national) flags :P |
22:24 |
PilzAdam |
so for german you already need to put 3 national flags there |
22:24 |
* john_minetest |
imagines that flag being used often then just for fun: http://aengusogecoschool.webs.com/FlagRainbow_xxl.png |
22:24 |
Peacock |
well pick the most recognizable one :P |
22:24 |
Peacock |
but if you have to put the language in text, theres not much room for more than one |
22:25 |
Exio4 |
lol |
22:26 |
Peacock |
still better cockney lol |
22:27 |
proller |
admins can write it in description |
22:27 |
proller |
or in name |
22:27 |
Peacock |
though i guess for the german the essential part is to remember to pull out your spacebar :P |
22:27 |
proller |
[FR] toad eaters 24/7 |
22:30 |
Peacock |
naw |
22:30 |
Peacock |
it would be |
22:30 |
Peacock |
[FR] now with /surrender |
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22:32 |
LAD |
Hi |
22:33 |
LAD |
...? |
22:34 |
Peacock |
the kitchen is closed |
22:34 |
LAD |
Oh? |
22:35 |
LAD |
But there is no cooking in minetest just farming |
22:36 |
Peacock |
a really well thought-out stovetop/oven would be cool yeah |
22:36 |
LAD |
Hmm i could mabye code if i had the time |
22:40 |
LAD |
ChanServ hi |
22:40 |
LAD |
Oops |
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* LAD |
throughs kitten at nekogloop |
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22:53 |
Evergreen |
Hey sfan5, i applied your patch to openspades, but when it links the cxx executable, I get this error. http://pastie.org/private/lrklfatllkza5lnnexzcqq |
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23:01 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Howdy folks |
23:01 |
thefamilygrog66 |
How can I tell which version of lua I'm running? |
23:02 |
kaeza |
thefamilygrog66, print(_VERSION) |
23:02 |
kaeza |
it will output something like "Lua 5.1" |
23:02 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I've run into an issue with the 'goto' command |
23:03 |
kaeza |
goto? O_o |
23:03 |
thefamilygrog66 |
my hedge maze mod works fine on my laptop, but when I add it to my linux server, I get an error: |
23:03 |
thefamilygrog66 |
unexpected symbol near ':' |
23:03 |
Exio4 |
goto? where? |
23:03 |
kaeza |
thefamilygrog66, I think goto was introduced in 5.2 |
23:03 |
thefamilygrog66 |
another line in the code |
23:03 |
kaeza |
MT uses 5.1 |
23:03 |
thefamilygrog66 |
yes, kaeza that's what I read |
23:03 |
thefamilygrog66 |
so why does it work on my windows laptop? |
23:03 |
Exio4 |
are you using luajit |
23:04 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I don't know |
23:04 |
kaeza |
thefamilygrog66, LuaJit has some 5.2 features |
23:04 |
kaeza |
(including goto and bitop) |
23:05 |
thefamilygrog66 |
not to be mistaken with luakit? |
23:05 |
kaeza |
nope |
23:05 |
thefamilygrog66 |
that's really weird man. I'm pretty sure I didn't install luajit on my laptop |
23:06 |
kaeza |
your minetest executable may have been compiled with LuaJit support |
23:06 |
kaeza |
did you compile yourself? |
23:06 |
thefamilygrog66 |
maybe the windows executable has it |
23:06 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I compiled my linux one myself |
23:07 |
kaeza |
in any case, you may want to restructure your code to avoid goto, or *require* your users to use Jit |
23:07 |
thefamilygrog66 |
maybe I'll install luajit on my linux box |
23:07 |
Exio4 |
using goto in a "super-high level" language doesn't look like the right thing |
23:08 |
kaeza |
Exio4, goto is fine anywhere |
23:08 |
proller |
Exio4, did you wrote something bigger than "hello world"? |
23:08 |
Exio4 |
proller: yes |
23:08 |
kaeza |
but when there's this kind of problem, it's best avoided |
23:09 |
Exio4 |
imo in mid-level to below goto is one of the most useful constructors, when you have super-cute interfaces it becomes a pain to use |
23:09 |
Exio4 |
mainly because it is "less supported" than other things like subclassing or things like that |
23:09 |
NekoGloop |
I need kitteh biscuits. |
23:11 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I guess I kinda figured if it worked in one case, it would with all of 'em |
23:12 |
thefamilygrog66 |
bottom line is it IS supported by 5.2+ |
23:12 |
thefamilygrog66 |
that's the reason I used it, since I was translating an old BASIC program |
23:14 |
NekoGloop |
So why don't we update MT to 5.2 by default already? :P |
23:14 |
Exio4 |
because api changes and it could break stuff? |
23:14 |
thefamilygrog66 |
it works in windows apparently |
23:14 |
Peacock |
so business as usual lol |
23:15 |
NekoGloop |
Don't we break enough things as is? |
23:15 |
thefamilygrog66 |
yes |
23:15 |
Peacock |
moar! lol |
23:16 |
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23:16 |
* thefamilygrog66 |
throws shit around and generally breaks things |
23:19 |
thefamilygrog66 |
installed luajit, and it made no difference |
23:19 |
VanessaE |
you have to compile mt to use it. |
23:19 |
thefamilygrog66 |
great! |
23:20 |
thefamilygrog66 |
anything special I need to do when compiling? |
23:20 |
* NekoGloop |
throws a kitty biscuit at VanessaE |
23:20 |
Peacock |
pray |
23:20 |
thefamilygrog66 |
/me believes in nothing |
23:20 |
thefamilygrog66 |
haha |
23:21 |
VanessaE |
thefamilygrog66: nope. just make sure when you do the cmake step that it says it found luajit. |
23:21 |
thefamilygrog66 |
groovy, thanks V |
23:21 |
Peacock |
MT: Y U NO bundle jit |
23:21 |
thefamilygrog66 |
gives 'em the jitters |
23:21 |
NekoGloop |
because lisencing |
23:22 |
thefamilygrog66 |
it's bundled in the freakin' windows version! |
23:22 |
NekoGloop |
loophole. |
23:22 |
thefamilygrog66 |
unless the windows version uses lua 5.2 |
23:22 |
thefamilygrog66 |
wormhole |
23:23 |
Peacock |
for the small % of people using linux, there sure are a shitload of opensource/copyleft licenses to chose from lol |
23:23 |
NekoGloop |
loopworm |
23:23 |
thefamilygrog66 |
tapeworm |
23:23 |
NekoGloop |
worm tape. |
23:23 |
* Peacock |
eagerly awaits RMSv4 license |
23:23 |
thefamilygrog66 |
so I suppose I should add a disclaimer to my hedge maze mod, ffs |
23:24 |
* NekoGloop |
noms Peacock's head |
23:24 |
thefamilygrog66 |
or try to figure out how to rewrite it without goto commands |
23:24 |
Peacock |
RMSv4 will have a clause where you can only use GPL toilet paper |
23:25 |
Peacock |
can you substitute with functions? |
23:26 |
Peacock |
ugh, just had a thought about GPL toilet paper: if you use it, you must share it lol |
23:26 |
thefamilygrog66 |
probably, but I'm a lazy bastard |
23:26 |
Peacock |
me too lol |
23:27 |
thefamilygrog66 |
when I started programming back in the early '80s, they promised me goto statements |
23:27 |
thefamilygrog66 |
hahaha |
23:27 |
NekoGloop |
you're expecting lua to be coded correctly |
23:27 |
Peacock |
but then the gov't said there was no more money for goto statements |
23:27 |
thefamilygrog66 |
no, I'm expecting minetest to use a recent version of lua |
23:28 |
Peacock |
i made that complaint myself when i wanted to use bitwise operators |
23:28 |
Peacock |
after that they added JIT which has them |
23:29 |
Peacock |
ideally 5.2 or default and bundle JIT |
23:30 |
Peacock |
its a real pisser to use features that are present in one but not the other |
23:30 |
VanessaE |
minetest uses 5.1 or LuaJIT depending on which you're using. |
23:30 |
thefamilygrog66 |
LuaJIT not found, using bundled Lua. |
23:31 |
thefamilygrog66 |
goddammit |
23:31 |
VanessaE |
thefamilygrog66: maybe you need a -dev package |
23:31 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I need a freakin beer |
23:31 |
Exio4 |
you need a bear |
23:31 |
NekoGloop |
You need a cocaine bear |
23:32 |
* Peacock |
hands a beer |
23:32 |
thefamilygrog66 |
not into cocaine, nor bears |
23:32 |
thefamilygrog66 |
thanks chief |
23:32 |
Peacock |
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/175/b/9/magua_from___the_last_of_the_mohicans___by_s3lwyn-d54ni35.jpg |
23:32 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I'm going out shortly to play a gig. There will be beers |
23:33 |
Peacock |
i always need beer when it comes to MT/linux stuff |
23:33 |
Peacock |
There's a reason Hans Reiser went nuts and whacked his wife :P |
23:33 |
NekoGloop |
That's the only way the design choices make sense, Peacock. |
23:34 |
thefamilygrog66 |
why you no find luajit library, mt? |
23:35 |
Peacock |
i had that problem on debian |
23:35 |
Peacock |
i finally downloaded the package from a newer repo and installed that system-wide |
23:36 |
Peacock |
this is for winows? |
23:36 |
Peacock |
*windows |
23:36 |
thefamilygrog66 |
nah, stupuntu |
23:36 |
Peacock |
how did you get/install jit? |
23:37 |
thefamilygrog66 |
ubuntu software centre |
23:37 |
Peacock |
and do you have libluajit-dev? |
23:37 |
Peacock |
(or something to that effect with -dev at the end) |
23:37 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I don't know |
23:37 |
Peacock |
got synaptic? |
23:37 |
thefamilygrog66 |
LuaJIT 2.0.0-beta9 |
23:37 |
thefamilygrog66 |
that's all she wrote |
23:37 |
Peacock |
try this in term |
23:38 |
Peacock |
sudo apt-get install libluajit-5.1-dev |
23:38 |
Peacock |
(i could write a book "The Joys of Linux and Fine Wine") :P |
23:38 |
thefamilygrog66 |
haha |
23:38 |
thefamilygrog66 |
it's installing it |
23:39 |
Peacock |
try recompiling after that, it should find jit |
23:39 |
Peacock |
if it doesn't, try a sledgehammer :P |
23:39 |
thefamilygrog66 |
hey it found luajit this time |
23:40 |
thefamilygrog66 |
thanks! |
23:40 |
Peacock |
thought so, i was in the exact same bind last time lol |
23:40 |
Peacock |
np :P |
23:40 |
thefamilygrog66 |
compiling right now |
23:40 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I guess I should get ready for my gig |
23:40 |
thefamilygrog66 |
hmm |
23:41 |
VanessaE |
have fun |
23:41 |
Peacock |
more beer? |
23:41 |
thefamilygrog66 |
once I'm there yes |
23:41 |
thefamilygrog66 |
thanks V |
23:41 |
Peacock |
haha lol nice |
23:41 |
thefamilygrog66 |
rock 'n' roll |
23:41 |
Peacock |
in a bar i once asked for a quadruple rum and coke, there was barely any coke in the glass :S |
23:41 |
thefamilygrog66 |
we're called Thee Lost Cause |
23:42 |
Peacock |
Thee, christian rock? |
23:42 |
thefamilygrog66 |
4 guys in their late 30s/early 40s playing '60s garage punk |
23:42 |
Peacock |
nb |
23:42 |
thefamilygrog66 |
yes, we're very holy |
23:42 |
Peacock |
lol |
23:42 |
thefamilygrog66 |
haha |
23:43 |
thefamilygrog66 |
nah, there are a tonne of bands with the same name, so I added THEE to differentiate us a bit |
23:43 |
thefamilygrog66 |
stupid bands and their names |
23:43 |
Peacock |
im very holy too, last time i took catechism, i gave my name as Jesus Christ, was kicked out for the rest of the year lol |
23:43 |
thefamilygrog66 |
it's pronounced "HAY-zoos" |
23:44 |
Peacock |
Ohh i thought Thee was a typo lol |
23:44 |
thefamilygrog66 |
done compiling, let's try this again |
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23:47 |
thefamilygrog66 |
damn |
23:47 |
Peacock |
it verks? |
23:47 |
NekoGloop |
it twerks? |
23:48 |
thefamilygrog66 |
it's shaking its ass at me, but it's not working |
23:48 |
thefamilygrog66 |
oh well, I'll try this again later |
23:48 |
khonkhortisan |
it uses its it's correctly |
23:48 |
NekoGloop |
it twerks! |
23:48 |
Peacock |
verks = german, twerks = american lol |
23:49 |
Peacock |
one pays, the other costs you :P |
23:49 |
thefamilygrog66 |
back later folks - thanks again for the info |
23:50 |
Peacock |
have fun |
23:51 |
Peacock |
hmm, its rapidly becoming obvious i dont have enough nodes to fill the mall with |
23:56 |
VanessaE |
you? not having enough nodes? HAH! |
23:56 |
Peacock |
2/4 wings should cover it, and i have 3 more floors lol |
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