| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
Inocudom |
I didn't know that cisoun was still here. Too bad he left. |
| 00:01 |
[0gb_us] |
That would be interesting to know. Most probably just look up the license online though. |
| 00:01 |
kaeza |
http://wiki.minetest.net/Creating_texture_packs |
| 00:02 |
AWTom |
http://wiki.minetest.net/Texture_Packs#Texture_Pack_Creation |
| 00:03 |
kaeza |
more is a bit more in-depth :P |
| 00:04 |
kaeza |
(and linked from the tutorials page) |
| 00:05 |
ShadowNinja |
kaeza: Not anymore. Add your tutorial to the texture packs page (And remove the shell code?) |
| 00:10 |
kaeza |
ShadowNinja, feel free to improve it :) |
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| 00:24 |
ShadowNinja |
kaeza: Anything to add? http://wiki.minetest.net/index.php?title=Texture_Packs#Texture_Pack_Creation |
| 00:26 |
kaeza |
looks good |
| 00:27 |
AWTom |
Wouldn't this be a better link to default textures? https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/tree/master/mods/default/textures |
| 00:28 |
AWTom |
also, http://paint.net/ is not where the paint.net software is hosted |
| 00:28 |
kaeza |
getpaint.net |
| 00:29 |
* kaeza |
uses ASEprite :P |
| 00:29 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: you forgot to mention how texture packs can be placed in ~/.minetest/textures and just referenced with the in-game selection screen |
| 00:30 |
[0gb_us] |
That's not quite available officially yet. |
| 00:30 |
[0gb_us] |
I'd hold off on adding that until the stable version to avoid confusion. |
| 00:33 |
VanessaE |
I suppose |
| 00:34 |
kaeza |
as if there weren't enough confusion yet :P |
| 00:34 |
* kaeza |
pokes the Ubuntu people to update from 0.3.1 to 0.4.7 |
| 00:35 |
Pelayo |
kaeza, you can always add the ppa |
| 00:35 |
kaeza |
Pelayo, still, some people only know about software center |
| 00:35 |
[0gb_us] |
I know, right? Though I think it's the Debian people that need to update, Ubuntu updates off of Debian. |
| 00:37 |
AWTom |
I think that there should be a separation between the game engine features and the default game features in the wiki |
| 00:37 |
[0gb_us] |
Yes, definitely. |
| 00:38 |
Pelayo |
well, I've been playing with it for two days and touching some things.. and I'm still confused |
| 00:38 |
AWTom |
http://wiki.minetest.net/Blocks This page might be confusing to a newcomer |
| 00:38 |
[0gb_us] |
Great, I broke my package manager. |
| 00:40 |
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| 00:40 |
Evergreen |
kaeza: I can't seem to get ASEprite to compile for me. :S |
| 00:41 |
kaeza |
huh |
| 00:42 |
AWTom |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4000 this seems ridiculous |
| 00:48 |
Evergreen |
kaeza, I'm trying to get it to compile again, and it is working so far |
| 00:51 |
Evergreen |
Wait, I think I remember what the problem was. I tried to run the executable, but it wouldn't work. (IIRC) |
| 00:51 |
Exio4 |
[0gb_us]: debian sid is updated |
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| 00:52 |
[0gb_us] |
Exio4, I'm the one trying to migrate to Trisquel, not the one trying to migrate to Debian. |
| 00:52 |
Exio4 |
[21:35:34] <[0gb_us]> I know, right? Though I think it's the Debian people that need to update, Ubuntu updates off of Debian. |
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| 00:52 |
Evergreen |
I was wondering, could you build a preatty good computer for ~600$? |
| 00:53 |
Evergreen |
(excluding mouse, keyboard, etc |
| 00:53 |
Exio4 |
Evergreen: depends, where do you live |
| 00:53 |
Evergreen |
US |
| 00:53 |
Exio4 |
you could build a better PC than mine with 500USD :P |
| 00:54 |
Exio4 |
and mine was 800USD (here) without the screen! |
| 00:54 |
[0gb_us] |
OH! Sorry, I was on the wrong topic then. That's great that Debian updated its copy of Minetest! |
| 00:55 |
Evergreen |
I'm pretty sure I could build a better computer than the one I have already. I got it for 190 dollars, and it has 3GB of ram, an 80gb hard drive (plus a 1TB external drive), and an intel centrino duo |
| 00:56 |
Evergreen |
I'm not sure what it is clocked at |
| 00:57 |
AWTom |
If you're making a new build, try the AMD A10, best on-die graphics out there afaik |
| 01:00 |
Evergreen |
Yay, it works, thanks kaeza |
| 01:00 |
kaeza |
nice :) |
| 01:00 |
Evergreen |
(aseprite that is |
| 01:01 |
Exio4 |
AWTom: or my IGP, the worse dedicated gpu! |
| 01:01 |
Exio4 |
err |
| 01:01 |
Exio4 |
my GT610 |
| 01:01 |
Pelayo |
hell yeah |
| 01:02 |
Pelayo |
this is me doing a script: http://i.imgur.com/xVyoSl.jpg |
| 01:02 |
Pelayo |
but it works! finally! |
| 01:02 |
Pelayo |
:P |
| 01:03 |
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| 01:11 |
Guest80972 |
hello everyone |
| 01:11 |
kaeza |
hai |
| 01:12 |
Guest80972 |
how do i change my username here |
| 01:12 |
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| 01:13 |
VanessaE |
Guest80972: /nick something |
| 01:14 |
Guest80972 |
is there a program i can use that will make a minetest map into rock and water |
| 01:14 |
VanessaE |
not directly, but soon minetest will natively have that ability |
| 01:14 |
VanessaE |
(it already does in development builds but there are as yet no mods I know of that will do this) |
| 01:15 |
Chinchow |
My Mapgen v7 does that as it's not finished |
| 01:15 |
VanessaE |
you could just alias dirt, grass, etc. into stone |
| 01:15 |
Guest80972 |
than can i change something in the minetest program |
| 01:15 |
Guest80972 |
how do i do that |
| 01:15 |
VanessaE |
you don't change anything in the engine - you write a mod instead. a mod is a piece of Lua code, perhaps some textures, that tells the engine to do stuff |
| 01:16 |
Guest80972 |
yea i dont know how to write a mod |
| 01:17 |
VanessaE |
it's not hard to learn |
| 01:17 |
VanessaE |
google for "lua tutorial" and learn this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt |
| 01:17 |
VanessaE |
lua_api.txt describes how to interface with the engine |
| 01:18 |
Guest80972 |
ok |
| 01:18 |
Pelayo |
mmm, btw, the texture pack selector says "no information available".. what files does it search for? |
| 01:18 |
VanessaE |
Pelayo: it looks for info.txt |
| 01:18 |
VanessaE |
in the texture pack's folder |
| 01:19 |
VanessaE |
and screenshot.png |
| 01:19 |
Pelayo |
ah, really intuitive :P |
| 01:19 |
Pelayo |
thansk |
| 01:19 |
Pelayo |
thanks |
| 01:19 |
VanessaE |
sure |
| 01:24 |
AWTom |
Is string useless in the default mod? |
| 01:24 |
Exio4 |
you can craft wool, iirc |
| 01:25 |
AWTom |
where in the minetest directory do I run make? |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
at the top level |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
be sure you do the cmake step first of course |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 ; make -j4 |
| 01:28 |
[0gb_us] |
I'm'a reboot and see what happens to my laptop. See you in a bit! |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
(or =0 ) |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
(if you want a system-wide install) |
| 01:28 |
AWTom |
Thanks. What does -j4 do? |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
uses 4 threads while compiling |
| 01:29 |
AWTom |
interesting |
| 01:29 |
VanessaE |
makes it compile faster |
| 01:29 |
AWTom |
CMake Error at src/CMakeLists.txt:80 (message): Sound enabled, but cannot be used. |
| 01:29 |
VanessaE |
(I assume you have multiple cores) |
| 01:29 |
AWTom |
I have exactly 4 |
| 01:30 |
VanessaE |
ok, you need to install openal and/or vorbis |
| 01:30 |
VanessaE |
sudo apt-get install build-essential libirrlicht-dev cmake libbz2-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg8-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libsqlite3-dev libogg-dev libvorbis-dev libopenal-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev libfreetype6-dev |
| 01:30 |
VanessaE |
(that'll grab everything you need) |
| 01:30 |
PilzAdam |
no! dont get Element in IRC... https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=110859#p110859 |
| 01:31 |
AWTom |
Just a question... is everything you're telling me in a list somewhere? |
| 01:31 |
VanessaE |
AWTom: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/README.txt#L83 |
| 01:31 |
VanessaE |
there. :) |
| 01:31 |
AWTom |
FACEPALM |
| 01:32 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 01:32 |
VanessaE |
rtfm? :) |
| 01:33 |
AWTom |
;_; |
| 01:34 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: you don't have to talk to him you know. |
| 01:35 |
PilzAdam |
but its hard to read actual useful messages between all the wall of spam that these people tend to produce |
| 01:35 |
Pelayo |
there is a nice command... /ignore |
| 01:36 |
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| 01:36 |
kaeza |
PilzAdam, quit being a dickhead maybe? |
| 01:36 |
VanessaE |
/kick PilzAdam don't be a dick |
| 01:36 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 01:39 |
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| 01:39 |
Guest99339 |
It seems I killed my system now. It won't load past the splash screen, ha ha. |
| 01:40 |
VanessaE |
heh, oops :) |
| 01:40 |
_0gb_us |
I don't even have my NickServ password on this other system, as you see. |
| 01:41 |
VanessaE |
wait, you b0rk3d your OS? ouch |
| 01:41 |
_0gb_us |
I seem to have, yes. |
| 01:41 |
_0gb_us |
Ha ha. |
| 01:41 |
_0gb_us |
I knew it was a risky operation. I knew what I was possibly getting into. |
| 01:42 |
AWTom |
Element is a genius |
| 01:42 |
_0gb_us |
How so? |
| 01:42 |
VanessaE |
time to grab your handy ubuntu install thumdrive :) |
| 01:42 |
VanessaE |
thumb* |
| 01:43 |
AWTom |
his profile points to a facebook address linked to an AOL e-mail |
| 01:43 |
_0gb_us |
I have it on a DVD, but yeah. Easy fix. Then install KeePassX, grab my backup from yesterday, and I should be back in business. |
| 01:43 |
VanessaE |
DVD? what' |
| 01:44 |
_0gb_us |
I don't get how that's genius .... |
| 01:44 |
VanessaE |
DVD? what's that? Oh right. those little plastic discs.... |
| 01:44 |
VanessaE |
:D |
| 01:44 |
_0gb_us |
A live DVD. It wouldn't fit on a CD, and I couldn't lose the files on my flash drive. |
| 01:45 |
AWTom |
so... get more flash drives? |
| 01:45 |
_0gb_us |
Hmm. Now that's a though. |
| 01:45 |
_0gb_us |
I probably should .... |
| 01:45 |
AWTom |
_that_ is genius |
| 01:45 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 01:45 |
Chinchow |
@AWTom sarcasm? |
| 01:45 |
_0gb_us |
*thought |
| 01:46 |
AWTom |
Chinchow: I'm not sure |
| 01:46 |
_0gb_us |
The other system still says it's loading ... I'd love to know what it's doing. |
| 01:46 |
_0gb_us |
And why it's failing. |
| 01:46 |
Chinchow |
I mean are you being sarcastic? |
| 01:47 |
AWTom |
<AWTom> so... get more flash drives? that was sarcastic |
| 01:47 |
VanessaE |
_0gb_us: probably kernel-panicked, or sitting at a singleuser prompt hidden behind a broken console driver |
| 01:47 |
Chinchow |
No the aol,Element comment. |
| 01:47 |
AWTom |
try operating it headless |
| 01:48 |
_0gb_us |
I don't have a way to log in headleass, but I'll see what I can do from tty1. |
| 01:48 |
VanessaE |
ssh in? |
| 01:49 |
_0gb_us |
There's no ssh server set up on the machine though. |
| 01:49 |
VanessaE |
damn. |
| 01:49 |
_0gb_us |
Login sucessful, and quick, from tty1. |
| 01:49 |
VanessaE |
oh good |
| 01:49 |
_0gb_us |
Yeah, my server has ssh access, but not so much on the laptop. |
| 01:49 |
_0gb_us |
I |
| 01:50 |
_0gb_us |
I'm in, but I have no idea what to do from here. |
| 01:50 |
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| 01:50 |
_0gb_us |
sudo killall x-server? |
| 01:50 |
Pelayo |
dmesg for example |
| 01:50 |
VanessaE |
run off a quick backup and re-install :P |
| 01:50 |
AWTom_ |
I wonder what happened |
| 01:50 |
_0gb_us |
I already have my backup, I took it before I started, ha ha. |
| 01:51 |
AWTom_ |
Chinchow: https://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=6059 |
| 01:51 |
Pelayo |
ugh.. |
| 01:51 |
_0gb_us |
dmesg has way too much output for me to use. |
| 01:52 |
Pelayo |
I rotated MC's torch texture |
| 01:52 |
Pelayo |
it looks awful.. |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
mine are better :P |
| 01:52 |
kaeza |
^ SPAM |
| 01:53 |
Pelayo |
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9067/1rv2.png |
| 01:53 |
* VanessaE |
looks at kaeza |
| 01:53 |
Pelayo |
at least the grass looks a little better.. but torches are really bad |
| 01:53 |
VanessaE |
Pelayo: ew. |
| 01:53 |
ShadowNinja |
_0gb_us: killall X && startx? |
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| 01:54 |
Pelayo |
might need manual editing after all :/ |
| 01:54 |
_0gb_us |
It says no x or x-server processes can be found. |
| 01:54 |
Pelayo |
tried rotating them in different angles and all of them look pretty bad |
| 01:54 |
ShadowNinja |
(Or your your login manager, like gdm, as root) |
| 01:54 |
VanessaE |
Pelayo: just use a really high resolution texture instead |
| 01:54 |
Pelayo |
nah, I'm trying to make a generic script for converting resource packs |
| 01:54 |
kaeza |
_0gb_us, capital X? |
| 01:54 |
_0gb_us |
Yeah, I was using sudo. I'll try gdm. |
| 01:54 |
VanessaE |
since MC's torches are meant to look smooth along the diagonals, you have to use a high rez texture for the rotated ones. |
| 01:54 |
ShadowNinja |
_0gb_us: Make sure it is capital, and if it isn't running just start it. |
| 01:54 |
ShadowNinja |
_0gb_us: Distro? |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
s/ones/one/ |
| 01:55 |
_0gb_us |
I tried lower case x, but capital X isn't found either. |
| 01:55 |
_0gb_us |
It is running, I can see it in "tty7". |
| 01:55 |
* ShadowNinja |
has it on tty1. :-) |
| 01:55 |
_0gb_us |
No gdm found either. |
| 01:56 |
ShadowNinja |
_0gb_us: Distro? It might be lightdm, or lxdm, or kdm... |
| 01:56 |
Pelayo |
gdm? if you are on a recent ubuntu or mint it's lightdm or mdm |
| 01:56 |
_0gb_us |
tty7 seems to be the default, it always ends up there for me. |
| 01:56 |
VanessaE |
Pelayo: using imagemagick in your script, you could scale the on-floor texture up to say, 256px, rotate it, scale and crop the result back to 256, and save that one image out |
| 01:56 |
_0gb_us |
Lightdm sounds right ... I'll try that. |
| 01:56 |
Pelayo |
I was using imagemagick so I'll try that |
| 01:56 |
_0gb_us |
No process found. |
| 01:57 |
kaeza |
_0gb_us, ps -A | grep X |
| 01:57 |
ShadowNinja |
_0gb_us: Distro? KDE? Unity? Gnome2? 3? |
| 01:57 |
VanessaE |
Pelayo: just be sure for the initial 16->256px scale step, you use nearest neighbor or 'none' or whatever IM calls it. |
| 01:58 |
Pelayo |
thanks, I'm a newbie with imagemagick |
| 01:59 |
_0gb_us |
ShadowNinja: Xubuntu / Trisquel / somewhere in between. |
| 02:00 |
_0gb_us |
kaeza: No output. |
| 02:00 |
AWTom |
For minetest.conf on the wiki, should I link to https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/defaultsettings.cpp or https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example? |
| 02:00 |
VanessaE |
_0gb_us: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 02:01 |
VanessaE |
see if there's an error there near the end |
| 02:01 |
VanessaE |
e.g. no screens found or so |
| 02:01 |
VanessaE |
AWTom: the second one. |
| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
just be sure you indicate very clearly that the file must be named minetest.conf (without the .example part). |
| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
lots of people miss that. |
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_0gb_us |
VanessaE: At the end, no errors. "Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file." |
| 02:03 |
VanessaE |
hrm, well scan back upwards a bit |
| 02:05 |
_0gb_us |
I don't see anything that looks like an error. |
| 02:05 |
Pelayo |
-_- I hate biomes, I don't understand how the color is applied... |
| 02:05 |
_0gb_us |
What color? |
| 02:05 |
AWTom |
is there a way to search the wiki for red links? |
| 02:05 |
VanessaE |
_0gb_us: I think he means things like wild grass |
| 02:06 |
Pelayo |
grass and some vegetation in MC |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
which can change color depending on the biome its in |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
Pelayo: in those cases, just pick a good color and apply that always |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
MT doesn't have color-changing textures of that nature |
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Pelayo |
it's a problem, I thought I had choosen the right color (it's taken from MC's or the resource pack's biome gradient, from the exact pixel I read, 128,128) and then reducing gamma to 0,4 |
| 02:08 |
Pelayo |
that works mostly fine for mc's default textures but not for others.. |
| 02:09 |
Pelayo |
maybe I should ignore that gradient and use grass block top side border as color reference, so it at least fits |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
that should work |
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| 02:15 |
Pelayo |
nah, but I'll do it tomorrow, I did enough today :P |
| 02:15 |
AWTom |
what is the difference between the minetest.com wiki and the minetest.net wiki? |
| 02:18 |
VanessaE |
the .com one is outdated and not official, I guess |
| 02:18 |
VanessaE |
the .net one is the 'real' one. |
| 02:18 |
AWTom |
;_; |
| 02:18 |
AWTom |
I might possibly have been linking to the .com one |
| 02:24 |
AWTom |
I undid that |
| 02:38 |
AWTom |
Does anyone know how to fix http://wiki.minetest.net/Apple ? |
| 02:45 |
VanessaE |
change {{Heart | 0.5}} into a proper link |
| 02:45 |
VanessaE |
[[xxxx|0.5]] for whatever pacge xxxx it needs to point to |
| 02:45 |
VanessaE |
page* |
| 02:46 |
VanessaE |
or just write 0.5 without linking anywhere since there is no "heart" or "health" page. |
| 02:47 |
AWTom |
How does {{Heart | 0.5}} work? Where is the code making that happen? |
| 02:47 |
VanessaE |
nono, not {{ }}, but [[ ]] |
| 02:47 |
VanessaE |
{{ }} normally point to special Wiki functions |
| 02:47 |
AWTom |
how does it display a half_heart.png? |
| 02:47 |
VanessaE |
[[ ]] point to other pages |
| 02:47 |
VanessaE |
idk |
| 02:47 |
AWTom |
hm |
| 02:48 |
VanessaE |
oh I see what you mean |
| 02:49 |
AWTom |
it looks like it's working, but not correctly |
| 02:49 |
VanessaE |
seems to be doing that on all pages |
| 02:49 |
VanessaE |
so it's a Wiki bug then |
| 02:49 |
AWTom |
found the template http://wiki.minetest.net/Template:Heart |
| 02:50 |
* VanessaE |
reads the template |
| 03:02 |
VanessaE |
I just don't see anything wrong with the template. must be a bug in the wiki code somewhere. |
| 03:08 |
AWTom |
Why sleep if clouds are disabled?: if (m_clouds_enabled){ cloudPostProcess(); } else { sleep_ms(25); } |
| 03:09 |
VanessaE |
that's probably for the main menu |
| 03:10 |
VanessaE |
no point in rendering something that isn't there :P |
| 03:11 |
AWTom |
Why not just nop> |
| 03:13 |
* VanessaE |
shrugs |
| 03:16 |
AWTom |
I found a comment about not using something because of wine, and another sleep_ms(25) related to menu cloud rendering |
| 03:17 |
VanessaE |
the delay is there to limit the fps of the main menu clouds |
| 03:17 |
VanessaE |
but idk how the OS/CPU actually handle sleep() calls |
| 03:17 |
AWTom |
seems odd to have a hardcoded delay |
| 03:18 |
Peacock |
wheres the old give initial stuff mod? |
| 03:18 |
VanessaE |
in minetest_game/mods |
| 03:19 |
AWTom |
I'm finding a lot of repeated code |
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| 03:21 |
Peacock |
thanks V |
| 03:21 |
* VanessaE |
pokes kahrl |
| 03:21 |
VanessaE |
er |
| 03:21 |
* VanessaE |
pokes kaeza too |
| 03:21 |
kaeza |
hai |
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| 03:28 |
AWTom |
I played with the source, and make failed with nothing but "Error 2" |
| 03:29 |
VanessaE |
oops :) |
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AWTom |
I was expecting an error, but with some sort of information ;_; |
| 03:30 |
_0gb_us |
Two is information. It's the number of mistakes you made. Now go find them! |
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AWTom |
Is the Minetest source a good one to learn from, in terms of formatting and structure? |
| 03:32 |
_0gb_us |
I'm told it's messy code, Minetest. |
| 03:32 |
VanessaE |
well both are rather well-enforced these days |
| 03:32 |
VanessaE |
though I suppose old parts of the code is not |
| 03:32 |
VanessaE |
are not* |
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_0gb_us |
"Both"? Both what? |
| 03:33 |
VanessaE |
the formatting and the overall structure |
| 03:33 |
_0gb_us |
Okay, got it. |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Weather: Clean up getHeat/getHumidity somewhat 9bccd75e34 2013-09-16T20:33:53-07:00 http://git.io/ORZYaQ |
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GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Fix some warnings and other minor details c0398224ef 2013-09-16T20:52:42-07:00 http://git.io/Dsne1Q |
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thefamilygrog66 |
howdy |
| 04:15 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 04:16 |
AWTom |
Does anyone know of a small, well-formed and written project that I can read for learning purposes? |
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thefamilygrog66 |
99x99 all-cloud maze: http://i.imgur.com/sYySUrU.jpg |
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VanessaE |
nice |
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thefamilygrog66 |
thanks! another angle: http://i.imgur.com/04Ox3n1.png |
| 04:18 |
AWTom |
I followed that with my cursor, keeping to the right. It didn't take as long as I thought to get out |
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thefamilygrog66 |
yep, some are easier than others - all randomly generated |
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thefamilygrog66 |
3-storey 67x67 maze building: 1st floor sandstonebrick walls/desert stone floor, 2nd floor glass walls/obsidian floor, 3rd floor tree walls, junglewood floor |
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thefamilygrog66 |
http://i.imgur.com/UtSMN9W.jpg |
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thefamilygrog66 |
roof shot: http://i.imgur.com/tLN5WL8.jpg |
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VanessaE |
wow |
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thefamilygrog66 |
it generates them really quickly, and I made an interface so the player can just type in wall and floor materials and side length and bam, hit it and instant custom hedge maze |
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thefamilygrog66 |
any size from 3 - 99 |
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AWTom |
What do you guys think about Irrlicht? |
| 04:35 |
VanessaE |
careful with that question |
| 04:35 |
VanessaE |
you're apt to get rather...explosive results :) |
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VanessaE |
some here think irrlicht is good, others have advocated for a move to OGRE, some suggest going with pure OpenGL.. |
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AWTom |
pure OpenGL sounds like a big move to me |
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AWTom |
good night, all |
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VanessaE |
night |
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Smelly |
Hello all, is anyone having trouble loging into servers right now? |
| 04:45 |
VanessaE |
nope |
| 04:45 |
Smelly |
Odd, I cant seem to join any |
| 04:46 |
Smelly |
just says connecting |
| 04:46 |
Smelly |
Oh wait, I was able to get into one |
| 04:46 |
Smelly |
Now to just get back in my main one I play on |
| 04:48 |
Smelly |
Is anyone on here from landrush server? |
| 04:49 |
VanessaE |
nope :) |
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kaeza |
I'm from Uruguay if that matters :P |
| 04:49 |
VanessaE |
actually, it's quite busy... http://minetest.net/servers |
| 04:49 |
Smelly |
Well I know your not VanessaE lol yea I see some names in here who where on |
| 04:49 |
Smelly |
Must be to focused on their game to look at IRC |
| 04:49 |
Smelly |
happens to the best of us |
| 04:50 |
VanessaE |
most of the names you see right now are people who are either asleep, at work, or just busy |
| 04:51 |
Smelly |
Yeap :) |
| 04:51 |
Smelly |
So what are you up two these days? |
| 04:51 |
kaeza |
welcome to IRC: the realtime chat where nothing happens :) |
| 04:51 |
Smelly |
Indeed |
| 04:51 |
Smelly |
lol |
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VanessaE |
just reading random stuff |
| 04:52 |
Smelly |
Exciting lol |
| 04:55 |
Pelayo |
meh, some support channels are awful... :/ |
| 04:55 |
Smelly |
Ever go into minecraft IRC |
| 04:55 |
Smelly |
I feel like we are two teams against each other in world series |
| 04:56 |
VanessaE |
don't waste your time there. |
| 04:56 |
Pelayo |
well, that's common when there are forked or somewhat related projects |
| 04:56 |
VanessaE |
apparently they have a high incidence of banning people who are associated with minetest, without reason |
| 04:57 |
Smelly |
Because their dumb |
| 04:57 |
VanessaE |
they're* |
| 04:57 |
Pelayo |
that happens too in the ubuntu channel if you mention you need help with mint (that's basically ubuntu with another default desktop) |
| 04:57 |
VanessaE |
and I doubt "dumb" is the right word. |
| 04:57 |
Smelly |
Oh a grammer Nazi lol |
| 04:57 |
Pelayo |
or with ubuntu users asking in the debian channel.. |
| 04:57 |
Pelayo |
etc |
| 04:57 |
Smelly |
I think dumb is universal term |
| 04:58 |
Smelly |
What word would you use? |
| 04:58 |
VanessaE |
not sure |
| 04:58 |
VanessaE |
immature perhaps |
| 04:59 |
Smelly |
Maybe |
| 04:59 |
Smelly |
I just hate when people ban anywhere for no reason. |
| 04:59 |
Smelly |
Then you have the ones who abuse the power lol |
| 05:00 |
Pelayo |
well, I got yelled by a programmer for just a question... |
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kaeza |
Minetest is a free alternative (speaking of "free as in gratis, $0" here) |
| 05:00 |
kaeza |
that's not good for business in their terms |
| 05:00 |
Pelayo |
not banned, but felt worse because it was completely out of place |
| 05:00 |
VanessaE |
Pelayo: likely something they feel you should have looked up via a search engine |
| 05:00 |
Smelly |
Don't sweat it someone people just don't know how to be human. |
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Smelly |
some* |
| 05:02 |
Smelly |
Gah, I'm so cold |
| 05:02 |
Smelly |
Vanessa Hold me |
| 05:02 |
Smelly |
lol |
| 05:02 |
VanessaE |
no. |
| 05:02 |
Smelly |
But what if I die |
| 05:02 |
Smelly |
lol |
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kaeza |
Pelayo, this is interesting reading on that topic: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 05:03 |
Pelayo |
VanessaE, I don't think that was the case, I read later that programmer has a serious fixation with that topic on his program |
| 05:03 |
VanessaE |
ohh |
| 05:03 |
Smelly |
In other words you hit a nerve |
| 05:03 |
Pelayo |
yup |
| 05:03 |
Smelly |
Smooth |
| 05:03 |
Smelly |
lol |
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Smelly |
Okay this is insane I am freezeing brb I need a blanket |
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Pelayo |
I tried to ask that politely, but it looks like lots of people weren't, so he might have thought I was going to bitch about that |
| 05:05 |
VanessaE |
ah |
| 05:05 |
Smelly |
back |
| 05:05 |
VanessaE |
well sometimes you just can't approach a person without pissing them off |
| 05:06 |
VanessaE |
I've known people whose very proximity was enough to piss them off. |
| 05:06 |
Pelayo |
specially if that person is Phil Fish :P |
| 05:06 |
VanessaE |
*checks wikipedia* |
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Smelly |
Where do I no that name |
| 05:06 |
VanessaE |
hm, not familiar. |
| 05:06 |
VanessaE |
Smelly: know* |
| 05:06 |
Pelayo |
Fez designer (the game, not the hats) |
| 05:07 |
Smelly |
Wait |
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Smelly |
Vanessa |
| 05:07 |
VanessaE |
please use at least somewhat-proper english |
| 05:07 |
Smelly |
Really |
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Smelly |
lol |
| 05:07 |
Smelly |
I am |
| 05:07 |
Smelly |
It's a chat box |
| 05:07 |
Smelly |
No one types perfect |
| 05:07 |
Smelly |
its all emoticons and what not |
| 05:07 |
VanessaE |
there's a big difference between your/you're, and especially no/know |
| 05:08 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 05:08 |
VanessaE |
sorry, that's a pet-peeve of mine. |
| 05:08 |
Smelly |
I know that |
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Smelly |
Ah |
| 05:08 |
Smelly |
I understand |
| 05:08 |
VanessaE |
were/where/we're, your/you're, there/their/they're, know/no, etc. |
| 05:09 |
VanessaE |
so there. :P |
| 05:09 |
Pelayo |
well, my english is just average (I'm from Spain) but some of those "typos" make my eyes bleed |
| 05:09 |
VanessaE |
lol |
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Smelly |
I understand, I just believe something else |
| 05:10 |
Smelly |
That's what makes us all different |
| 05:10 |
Smelly |
lol |
| 05:10 |
VanessaE |
there's nothing to believe - this is basic English 101 stuff here :) |
| 05:10 |
VanessaE |
ok, the grammar lesson is over for now :P |
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Smelly |
Good |
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Smelly |
lol |
| 05:11 |
Smelly |
Anyhoo |
| 05:11 |
VanessaE |
meanwhile, poor martin here keeps being told to die because kaeza hates him :D |
| 05:11 |
kaeza |
D: |
| 05:11 |
Smelly |
D: |
| 05:11 |
Smelly |
I still cant seem to log in |
| 05:11 |
Smelly |
This is insane |
| 05:11 |
Pelayo |
I don't get this... |
| 05:12 |
VanessaE |
Smelly: probably a poor internet connection? minetest isn't very tolerant of bad connections. |
| 05:13 |
Smelly |
Thats the thing, I can get into other servers |
| 05:13 |
Smelly |
and I am running full bars |
| 05:13 |
VanessaE |
I mean upstream from your modem |
| 05:13 |
VanessaE |
though kaeza can sure attest to the problems of glitchy wireless :) |
| 05:14 |
Pelayo |
if I set "my file.zip" as $INPUTFILE in my script, and unzip "$INPUTFILE" |
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kaeza |
hrm |
| 05:14 |
Pelayo |
unzip gets my file.zip, so it fails because it doesn't like filenames with spaces |
| 05:14 |
Smelly |
Oh it runs very fast about 70 when I last checked |
| 05:14 |
Pelayo |
it tries to unzip "my" |
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VanessaE |
Pelayo: unzip "$INPUTFILE" |
| 05:14 |
VanessaE |
with the quotes around the variable. |
| 05:15 |
Smelly |
Ah |
| 05:15 |
VanessaE |
oh wait |
| 05:15 |
Pelayo |
yep, did that :/ |
| 05:15 |
Smelly |
Its loading |
| 05:15 |
VanessaE |
I'm blind, I swear. |
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kaeza |
Pelayo, if a zip program does not like spaces in names, get a better one |
| 05:15 |
kaeza |
no spaces in filenames are so DOS-era :P |
| 05:15 |
Pelayo |
kaeza, it's a script I plan to redistribute when it's finished and working fine, so I have to use the standard unzip command included in all distros |
| 05:15 |
Smelly |
Okay I am in |
| 05:15 |
kaeza |
(actually before, but whatever) |
| 05:16 |
Smelly |
I am going finish my home |
| 05:16 |
Smelly |
Thanks for the chat |
| 05:16 |
VanessaE |
Pelayo: in that case you'll have to rename the file first.. |
| 05:16 |
VanessaE |
(odd, I could swear I've used `unzip` on filenames with spaces before) |
| 05:16 |
VanessaE |
night, Smelly |
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kaeza |
Pelayo, any chance of pastebinning (yes, it's a verb) the code? |
| 05:17 |
Pelayo |
nah, it's really ugly and embarrassing, with lots of commented lines |
| 05:18 |
VanessaE |
can't be any worse than some of the q&d stuff I've made |
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kaeza |
q&d? |
| 05:18 |
Pelayo |
I think I'll make a copy with no spaces in the temp dir and work with that, that's a good idea, and simple |
| 05:19 |
VanessaE |
quick & dirty |
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kaeza |
maybe the shell/interpreter is splitting the arguments wrongly then |
| 05:19 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, ah :P |
| 05:19 |
VanessaE |
export IFS="<press enter>" then |
| 05:19 |
VanessaE |
that'll stop the word splitting |
| 05:20 |
VanessaE |
I use that when I wanna force-read a file with a list of unquoted filenames |
| 05:20 |
VanessaE |
(such as is returned by `find`) |
| 05:21 |
VanessaE |
ifstmp=$IFS; export IFS="<enter>" ; for i in `cat somefile.txt`; do some crap here; done; export IFS=$ifxtmp |
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VanessaE |
$ifstmp |
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Pelayo |
brb |
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Pelayo |
it's strange, I get about the same fps in minecraft and minetest in my netbook |
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Pelayo |
but minecraft's framerate feels more choppy and minetest one feels more or less balanced |
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sfan5 |
!op |
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sfan5 |
!deop |
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* sfan5 |
meows |
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kaeza |
mornings sfan |
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VanessaE |
good morning sfa |
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VanessaE |
oops |
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VanessaE |
note to self: if tab-complete fails, the person probably signed off. try checking for this *before* pressing enter. |
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VanessaE |
good morning, sfan5. |
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sfan5 |
good morning |
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VanessaE |
sfan5: did you ever get any further with your experiments in getting mt to run on Android? |
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VanessaE |
(what I last saw was of the nature, "everything compiles, but it doesn't work") |
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sfan5 |
VanessaE: no |
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sfan5 |
it compiled but doesn't work |
| 06:27 |
sfan5 |
compiles* |
| 06:27 |
VanessaE |
too bad. well, just thought I'd ask. I got as far as "it runs on my PC and I can view it through VNC, but I can't do diddly shit with it". :) |
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sfan5 |
heh |
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sfan5 |
the problem is that you probably _need_ to involve java if you want to get Irrlicht running |
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VanessaE |
that's what I gathered. |
| 06:29 |
sfan5 |
it may be possible though |
| 06:30 |
VanessaE |
what chance is there of an .apk for it? what I last saw suggested that would be Hard (with a capital H) |
| 06:30 |
sfan5 |
small chance |
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sfan5 |
but well |
| 06:30 |
VanessaE |
small is better than zero :) |
| 06:31 |
sfan5 |
I currently have an android version of minetest compiled |
| 06:31 |
sfan5 |
but i didn't test it yet because it (probably) requires a launcher app |
| 06:31 |
VanessaE |
I'd be happy to give it a shot sometime. |
| 06:32 |
sfan5 |
let me see if I still have the compiled version somewhere |
| 06:32 |
VanessaE |
(Xelio A1001-BK, or something like that. 512MB/4GB, Runs Jellybean. decent tablet as long as the browser doesn't hog all the RAM) |
| 06:32 |
sfan5 |
yep |
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sfan5 |
wow |
| 06:32 |
sfan5 |
install linux on that tablet and then you can play MT :P |
| 06:32 |
VanessaE |
yeah right |
| 06:33 |
VanessaE |
I still haven't figured out how to root it yet :) |
| 06:33 |
sfan5 |
!g root Xelio A1001-BK |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: No results found for 'root Xelio A1001-BK'. |
| 06:33 |
VanessaE |
(it's too new, no one's done it yet) |
| 06:33 |
sfan5 |
no,no |
| 06:33 |
VanessaE |
excuse me, P1001A-BK |
| 06:34 |
sfan5 |
hm |
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VanessaE |
hm, it's described as "easily rooted" in one of the reviews, "rk29 root tool kit" is the effective solution... |
| 06:35 |
sfan5 |
!g rk29 root toolkit |
| 06:35 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1967699 |
| 06:36 |
VanessaE |
cheater. I'd have googled it myself :) |
| 06:36 |
sfan5 |
that seems trustable |
| 06:37 |
VanessaE |
hm, mine came with busybox already (either that or the terminal I installed came with it) |
| 06:37 |
sfan5 |
you mean you have "adb shell"'d into it? |
| 06:37 |
VanessaE |
nope. |
| 06:37 |
VanessaE |
command-line terminal app found in the google play store. |
| 06:37 |
sfan5 |
oh ok |
| 06:38 |
VanessaE |
I haven't used the ADB yet. |
| 06:38 |
sfan5 |
s/the// |
| 06:38 |
sfan5 |
well |
| 06:38 |
sfan5 |
s//the/ |
| 06:38 |
sfan5 |
whatever you want |
| 06:38 |
VanessaE |
*looks at box* the USB cable therein...wonder if that'll work for the purpose. |
| 06:38 |
sfan5 |
adb shell only requires an usb connection and usb debugging enabled |
| 06:39 |
VanessaE |
reading about it now |
| 06:39 |
VanessaE |
this stuff is new territory to me. |
| 06:39 |
sfan5 |
then you are free to install apk over usb, up&dl files and have a shell |
| 06:39 |
VanessaE |
lemme go grab it...now I'm curious :) |
| 06:40 |
sfan5 |
you can also make backups and restores (oh.. it may be rootable with that http://www.saurik.com/id/16 ) and syncs, forward tcp connections over USB |
| 06:43 |
VanessaE |
"You've connected your computer via USB. Touch the button below if you want to copy files between your computer and your Android's SD card" |
| 06:43 |
VanessaE |
well that's a good start :P |
| 06:44 |
VanessaE |
*clicks* |
| 06:44 |
sfan5 |
if you enable file system over USB you can't use adb features |
| 06:45 |
VanessaE |
ok then *turns off USB storage* |
| 06:46 |
VanessaE |
hm, seems I already have busybox and su on this (but su of course is blocked. "su: uid 10059 not allowed to su") |
| 06:47 |
sfan5 |
lawl |
| 06:47 |
sfan5 |
try "adb remount" |
| 06:48 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 06:48 |
VanessaE |
"daemon not running. starting it now on port 5038" -- "daemon started successfully" -- "error: device not found" |
| 06:48 |
sfan5 |
haha |
| 06:49 |
sfan5 |
what about you try "adb devices" first? |
| 06:49 |
sfan5 |
(also make sure you enable usb debugging) |
| 06:49 |
VanessaE |
oh right, didn't do that yet |
| 06:50 |
VanessaE |
"USB debugging"? |
| 06:50 |
sfan5 |
... |
| 06:50 |
VanessaE |
right. |
| 06:50 |
VanessaE |
sorry, again all new territory :_) |
| 06:50 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 06:51 |
sfan5 |
its under Applications->Developing->USB-Debugging for me |
| 06:51 |
sfan5 |
but I have 2.3.6 |
| 06:51 |
VanessaE |
that's the one. |
| 06:51 |
VanessaE |
adb devices lists ...nothing :) |
| 06:51 |
sfan5 |
what about lsusb |
| 06:52 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 06:52 |
VanessaE |
tab doesn't have that one |
| 06:53 |
sfan5 |
this may help: http://developer.android.com/tools/device.html#setting-up |
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sfan5 |
(step 3 only) |
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sfan5 |
bye everyone |
| 06:56 |
VanessaE |
cya |
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| 07:14 |
hmmmm |
hey guys |
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hmmmm |
how can i make the formspec area larger in a menu dialog, such as the create world area? |
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VanessaE |
no clue, I suck at formspecs |
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hmmmm |
i'm stuck with this until someone can tell me how because there is pretty much no indication anywhere |
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hmmmm |
https://github.com/kwolekr/minetest/commit/a7007202e69112aaf4735a10d838f4ca5c65dfae |
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hmmmm: looks like that has the same problem as I mentioned in https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/876 |
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hmmmm |
oh... that's a problem? how does Minecraft handle this situation exactly? |
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hmmmm |
the only 'solution' i can come up with for that is to have the lua menu create map_meta.txt and write the seed right away |
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kahrl_ |
that would solve it, yes |
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kahrl_ |
dunno what minecraft does |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all, happy US Constitution Day! :-D |
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VanessaE |
hi |
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deltib |
hah, constitution |
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VanessaE |
sfan5: well that was a colossal waste of time :( |
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deltib |
you can't turn on USB debugging? |
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VanessaE |
already did that. |
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VanessaE |
of COURSE because I use linux on my desktop, every damn tool out there turns out to be for windows |
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VanessaE |
and the SDK is useless |
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VanessaE |
(or the instructions suck, anyway) |
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deltib |
only thing I had trouble with with the SDK was graphics acceleration, which always just produced a black screen |
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deltib |
which as far as I could figure out, was cause I use linux |
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VanessaE |
the adb tool included with the sdk just refuses to list the tablet (which, by the way, clearly says on the screen that it's in uSB-debug mode) |
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deltib |
wow, these instructions make it look complicated |
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deltib |
maybe I got lucky |
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VanessaE |
uh huh. |
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VanessaE |
oh wait! |
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VanessaE |
"In some cases you also have to add vendor id to this file: ~/.android/adb_usb.ini" |
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VanessaE |
did that....restarted adb |
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VanessaE |
now the device shows in the list |
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VanessaE |
what moron decided on that? |
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Mossmanikin |
Hi folks |
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VanessaE |
hi Mossmanikin |
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VanessaE |
woot! I have root! :) |
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deltib |
the same moron that decided on all the things I hate about computers, or so I've decided to believe |
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VanessaE |
lol |
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Mossmanikin |
Does anybody know why "visual_scale" works that weird? I mean: if one wants a plantlike node to be eight times as large as a normal node, one has to write "visual_scale = math.sqrt(8)"... |
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VanessaE |
weird |
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Mossmanikin |
Aye |
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jin_xi |
Mossmanikin: its because its 2d |
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jin_xi |
do double the size of a square you multiply it by sqrt(2) |
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jin_xi |
if you mult by 2 youll get a square 4 times as big |
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Mossmanikin |
jin_xi: Ah... the reason makes sense... still very strange |
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VanessaE |
yay! my tablet has been rooted :) |
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Mossmanikin |
Congratulations! :) |
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VanessaE |
not that I'm gonna DO anything with it just yet |
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VanessaE |
(other than create multiple user accounts) |
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Mossmanikin |
it's the small successes that keep us going ;) |
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Hi john_minetest |
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Evergreen |
Hey everyone |
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Mossmanikin |
Hi Evergreen |
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Evergreen |
Btw Mossmanikin, I incorporated you stalactite code into mine and it works great. I am figuring out how to use ongen to put stalactites in caves. |
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Mossmanikin |
Evergreen: nice, wasn't sure if you would find use for it. I'm also trying to figure out how to use "minetest.register_on_generated" for the smooth transition of forest soils. Kind of stuck... |
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Evergreen |
The way for checking would be if there is a grass node and a dry leaves node next to each other, then spawn a pieceo of the transition node in the either the grass, or the dry leaves node |
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Mossmanikin |
Makes sense. For your explenation is human readable :D |
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Evergreen |
The problem is, that I don't know how to do it in code. :P |
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Evergreen |
I'll have toe experiment with it |
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Evergreen |
*to |
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Mossmanikin |
Yeah, guess I know what you mean :D |
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Evergreen |
By the way, does anyone know what Splizard's snow biome mod uses to make the biomes? |
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Evergreen |
ongen, abms, voxelmanip? |
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Mossmanikin |
Have been experimenting for quite(!) some hours without a satisfying result.... |
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VanessaE |
both ongen and abms |
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VanessaE |
(abms for later-snowfall, ongen for the majority of it) |
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Mossmanikin |
Sounds like this mod could be helpful as an example for forest soil |
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Hello everyone! |
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Mossmanikin |
Hi PilzAdam |
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Mossmanikin |
Need some sleep, bye, later |
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deltib |
Whatever happened to that popup blocking that web browsers used to have |
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Pelayo |
hi... about popup blocking, try installing adblock plus extension... but even adblock might not help with some popups that use flash |
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hi everyone |
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AWTom-Laptop |
*test |
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* AWTom-Laptop |
test |
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I hate bash and Bool.. |
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hoodedice |
MEOW !!! |
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hoodedice |
(Achievement Unlocked) |
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hoodedice |
Bash. |
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hoodedice |
.sh? |
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hoodedice |
Sup FreeFull ? |
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FreeFull |
Just came home |
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hoodedice |
=) |
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hoodedice |
Uninstalling stuff |
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hoodedice |
(WINDOWS) |
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hoodedice |
l8r |
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DanDuncombe |
Is there anyone on the forums right now? If so, can they tell me whether my Avatar looks like the green troll or a grey dwarf? |
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DanDuncombe |
Jordach, can you tell me whether my Avatar looks like the green troll or a grey dwarf? On the forum I mean |
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Jordach |
reload browser cache = new avatar image |
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Jordach |
<- feels like shit |
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thefamilygrog66 |
howdy folks |
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DanDuncombe |
How do I 'reload browser cache' |
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DanDuncombe |
Oh right |
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DanDuncombe |
Never mind |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Can I ask a question? |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Bahaha |
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* Jordach |
considers trolling this thread https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=110861#p110861 |
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* Jordach |
meows at NekoGloop |
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* NekoGloop |
sits on Jordach's lap |
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* Jordach |
pets NekoGloop |
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* NekoGloop |
purrs >w< |
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Jordach |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=110929#p110929 |
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Jordach |
9 Centigrade where I am |
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Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/XWo6dPR.png |
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Jordach |
it gives me an excuse to overclock my cpu to warm the room up |
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Jordach |
hey! |
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Jordach |
bullshitr |
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Jordach |
-r |
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Jordach |
that's my fucking wallpaper |
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Jordach |
my ass |
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Jordach |
fun fact: same image size |
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Jordach |
176x80 |
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Jordach |
my ass |
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Evergeen |
Ikr, why does everyone say photoshopped? Gimp'd is the way to go |
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Jordach |
hey Evergeen |
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Evergeen |
Hi |
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* Jordach |
doesnt feel well |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Wow, it's 14C here - a bit chilly for this time of year |
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Jordach |
thefamilygrog66, <Jordach> http://i.imgur.com/XWo6dPR.png |
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Jordach |
you think CDN is cold?! |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Yeah, I saw that |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Let's compare mid January, okay Jordach? |
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Jordach |
haha |
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thefamilygrog66 |
We'll also measure snowfall depth, hahaha |
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Jordach |
no contest |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Does it even snow there, Jordach? |
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thefamilygrog66 |
haha, little chili |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Similar to here |
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thefamilygrog66 |
I'm not sure what you're implying there, john_minetest, hehe |
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thefamilygrog66 |
gotcha |
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thefamilygrog66 |
good times |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Yeah, I gave up - too many protection blocks/griefers |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Right on |
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thefamilygrog66 |
I've been messing around with my own server |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Recently added giant Herobrines (4x size) roaming around in the deserts |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Nice looking server |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Just finishing tweaking my newest mod: Hedge Maze [maze] |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Here's an aerial shot of a 23x23 ice maze with dirt_with_snow floor: http://i.imgur.com/WNrmzQB.jpg |
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thefamilygrog66 |
and a treetop maze with leaf walls and tree floor: http://i.imgur.com/Zkaxx7V.jpg |
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thefamilygrog66 |
KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN! |
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Peacock |
GROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG! |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Haha |
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thefamilygrog66 |
You looking for an ice maze, by any chance? |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
ill have to try it out (the mod) |
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thefamilygrog66 |
http://i.imgur.com/WNrmzQB.jpg |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
could use a hedge maze for the mall were building |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Just about ready to upload the new version |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
hm, nice |
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proller |
thefamilygrog66, enable weather and it will melt 8) |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
the game's ice texture is shit, but the maze is nice lol |
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thefamilygrog66 |
It's gonna have text fields until 0.4.8 is released, when I can change them to dropdowns |
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* thefamilygrog66 |
just might make a shit texture, you know, for shit mazes and such. |
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hmmmm |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPmWfHy97OU |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
you'd populate a dropdown with *all* the registered nodenames? |
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thefamilygrog66 |
No, just the ones I want in there - some of them are problematic, e.g. lava_source, water_source, torch, etc. |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
thank god, that'd be one helluva drop down otherwise lol |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Yes it would, hehe. Text fields are also tough for newbies to figure out. |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
everything is tough for newbies lol |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
though the more they try to simplify things, the more complicated it ends up being lol |
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thefamilygrog66 |
True enough |
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thefamilygrog66 |
It's the minetest paradox, man. |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
old mod mgr/ new mod mgr, old liquids / new liquids, etc. lol cant keep up |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
though i think i came up with a decent compromise for dealing with douchebags - i removed the creative inventory only for non-whitelisted players, they have to use shops now |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
with 100 credits that's not a ton of shit you can buy and drop all over the place |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Which server, Peacock? |
| 16:47 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
WaterWorld |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Oh yeah. Were you the one who added ottomans to my lrfurn mod? |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
yes sir-ee |
| 16:48 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
i would have sent it to you, but im missing a few colors :/ |
| 16:48 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
or rather trimmed it down to just black, blue, green red and white |
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thefamilygrog66 |
You should send me the additional code/textures when you get a chance - I can work on the other colours. |
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thefamilygrog66 |
I need to do another release of that one sometime, clean up a few things. |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
PM'd |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
i know zippyshare sucks, but its a helluvalot easier to figure out than github lol |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Haha, not too many porno popups |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
lol "find girls near you" |
| 16:52 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
then people wonder why some geeks are such creepy stalkers lol |
| 16:53 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
(that story about the wikipedia editor showing up at this girl's work, forget the names) |
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Calinou |
thanks for calling me a creepy stalker |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
you're the guy? lol |
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ShadowNinja |
Calinou: Some MoreOres tools are missing images. |
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Calinou |
I added them recently |
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ShadowNinja |
Calinou: I also got annother "Attempt to index global 'uses'" error. |
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Calinou |
I removed uses |
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ShadowNinja |
Alright, pulled. |
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kaeza |
Meow! :P |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
hey hey its super kaeza |
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thefamilygrog66 |
howdy kaeza |
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kaeza |
hai grog, mauvebic(?) |
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Jordach |
hey kaeza; where you've been |
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jemadux |
hey there .. one question minetest is minecraft for linux or smthing like that ? |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
if its a star trek reference then yes, its mauvebic :P |
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Jordach |
jemadux, YES |
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kaeza |
sup Jordach |
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Jordach |
except open source with better modding |
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kaeza |
jemadux, NO |
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jemadux |
Jordach: thanks ! |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
nothing like opensauce |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Speaking of which, I could use a cup of tea. Earl Grey. Hot. |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
open source is quite liberating, rather like the first time i wore a european bathing suit |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
:P |
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ShadowNinja |
jemadux: No, MineCraft runs on Linux... |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
(that's a frasier reference) |
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kaeza |
:| |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
lol |
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thefamilygrog66 |
I picture Borat in a swimsuit |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
dude im cracker-white lol |
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ShadowNinja |
jemadux: It has advantages over MineCraft, most notable the moding API and speed. |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
though i tan quite quikly, unlike my wife who's irish in her complexion |
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* Jordach |
throws $5 that his W7 is cracked: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=110914#p110914 |
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Jordach |
it's brazil, full of criminals |
| 17:06 |
Jordach |
and the cheaters and hackers and the aimbotters and the laggers |
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Pelayo |
yep, the lack of a proper modding API in minecraft means lots of mods have to be rewritten almost from scratch in each release |
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* kaeza |
throws $10 to Jordach that more than 50% of the Windows installations in the world are cracked :P |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
jordach i found a way to trip up my brazilian griefers, i introduced money/economy into the game :P |
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kaeza |
"by outside parties" :P |
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Jordach |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan, /nick Peacock |
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* Jordach |
throws a brick through a window; oh look, cracked windows |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam, $5 that prestotron just gives you a mod and says: merge this |
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* Jordach |
also bets $5 that he might use a git repo... |
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PilzAdam |
do I get $5 when merging the mod? ;-) |
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Jordach |
nope.avi |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam, i still doubt anything good will come of this |
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* Jordach |
smells another crevis in the works |
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thefamilygrog66 |
haha, nice bazook action |
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thefamilygrog66 |
*bazooka |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Hey, it's hellmaze: obsidian/lava: http://i.imgur.com/iivDlcW.jpg |
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Pelayo |
niiice |
| 17:16 |
Pelayo |
this is working better now :P |
| 17:23 |
NekoGloop |
Oh, is the maze mod still a thing? |
| 17:23 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Was there an earlier one, NekoGloop, or are you referring to mine? |
| 17:23 |
NekoGloop |
there was an earlier one |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Oh boy, a long time ago, or recently? |
| 17:24 |
NekoGloop |
long time ago |
| 17:24 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I'll look for it in old mods... |
| 17:25 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I just wrote one recently, hope it's not too similar! |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Shitsnacks - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2814 |
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thefamilygrog66 |
It's definitely a different algorithm, but I'm gonna have to change the folder name at least |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Is Echo still active within the minetest community? |
| 17:35 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Looks like at least two of Echo's mods have been taken over by other people. |
| 17:36 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Their last forum post was 2013-04-19 |
| 17:38 |
thefamilygrog66 |
What should I do in this situation? The old maze mod is a year old, and though similar, a completely different mod. Any suggestions would be appreciated, thanks. |
| 17:39 |
NekoGloop |
It's WTFPL |
| 17:39 |
NekoGloop |
Tear it apart and learn from it, if you like. |
| 17:39 |
NekoGloop |
make a betterer version! |
| 17:39 |
NekoGloop |
... one that functions on mapgen! |
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ShadowNinja |
thefamilygrog66: Use the VM and make a maze mapgen! |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Haha, that sounds a bit ambitious for me. |
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thefamilygrog66 |
In your opinion, do you think I could still call my mod [maze] since the old one with the same name has been abandoned for a year? |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Or should I rename it? |
| 17:44 |
NekoGloop |
if it's betterer, then likely people won't want to use the two in tandem |
| 17:45 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Hmm, I'll keep it the same for now, I guess. We'll see how it does once it's been moved to the mod releases forum. |
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thefamilygrog66 |
back in a bit |
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ShadowNinja |
thefamilygone66: Please don't use away nicks. |
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NekoGloop |
Why? :P |
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ShadowNinja |
NekoGloop: I have seen a few pages with reasons, this one looks pretty good: http://bisqwit.iki.fi/jutut/away.html |
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Jordach |
they should fix the ragdoll physics: http://i.imgur.com/33EUwRj.png |
| 18:31 |
Jordach |
he's hanging there in the breeze :P |
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morlin |
hi. i am learning minetest with my son. i run vanilla minetest 0.4.7 on debian, and i am scratching my head about how to apply dyes |
| 18:34 |
morlin |
i seem to find a lot of mods, but how do i find out which dye mod, if any, are installed on my server? |
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sfan5 |
yep, perfect, the usb 3.0 driver fucked up |
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sfan5 |
morlin: try /mods maybe |
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Jordach |
morlin, you can only apply dye to wool at the minute |
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sfan5 |
the default dye mod is probably installed |
| 18:35 |
ShadowNinja |
morlin: There is one default one, I am not sure if the dyes are actually craftable... |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
put white wool + a colour dye into the crafting grid |
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morlin |
oh. very many thanks to all of you! |
| 18:36 |
morlin |
then ... how do i craft wool? i haven't seen any sheep around. ... :-) need a mod for that? |
| 18:36 |
morlin |
hmmm ... i do have wool mod ... |
| 18:37 |
PilzAdam |
dig junglegrass, it gives you cottong seeds |
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ShadowNinja |
morlin: You can farm cottom for string and craft that into wool. |
| 18:37 |
ShadowNinja |
cotton* |
| 18:38 |
morlin |
ok .. the white "flowers". i suppose? |
| 18:38 |
morlin |
are there mods around for making paint? |
| 18:38 |
Evergeen |
There are colored bricks, unified dyes, and other mods that have colored stuff |
| 18:38 |
ShadowNinja |
morlin: Yes, Unified Dyes is one I beleive, and homedecor has wall paint. |
| 18:39 |
PilzAdam |
in pure default game you can make dye from flowers |
| 18:39 |
PilzAdam |
no need for any mods |
| 18:39 |
morlin |
PilzAdam: how do i use the dye for my house? |
| 18:40 |
PilzAdam |
oh, you want wall paint |
| 18:40 |
PilzAdam |
the dye is only used to dye wool.... |
| 18:40 |
morlin |
PilzAdam: i just was informed, that i can only dye wool for now |
| 18:40 |
morlin |
btw ... on the wiki under crafting, i do not see any recipes for using wool. are they on a wool mod page? |
| 18:41 |
ShadowNinja |
morlin: http://wiki.minetest.net/Wool |
| 18:42 |
PilzAdam |
that page is outdated |
| 18:42 |
ShadowNinja |
morlin: By default I don't think wool has any use other than building. |
| 18:42 |
ShadowNinja |
PilzAdam: It was just created a few days ago. |
| 18:43 |
morlin |
ok. thanks all for clarifying!!! |
| 18:43 |
PilzAdam |
ShadowNinja, seems like someone cant read the 0.4.7 changelog then |
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Evergeen |
PilzAdam: Don't be a jerk, it took me a while to find the changelog. |
| 18:45 |
morlin |
PilzAdam: i have read the changelog. but it's not exactly a loosers guide ... |
| 18:45 |
PilzAdam |
morlin, I didnt mean you, I meant the one that wrote the http://wiki.minetest.net/Wool |
| 18:45 |
morlin |
PilzAdam: ah, ok :-9 |
| 18:47 |
morlin |
PilzAdam: so, what is wrong on that wiki page? are there in fact sheep? |
| 18:47 |
PilzAdam |
you can get wool in survival mode; just plant some cotton seeds and craft the strings into wool |
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morlin |
PilzAdam: right. will try that |
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Evergeen |
I think this is a good example of why we need top update the wiki more often. :P |
| 18:54 |
Evergeen |
*to |
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morlin |
Evergeen: that would be fantastic. it's my source of info |
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Jordach |
fuck - was gonna get Evergeen, but he got there before me |
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Evergeen |
Ninja'd X) |
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Jordach |
heh |
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morlin |
i haven't got a clue how to look for cotton seeds, for instance |
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morlin |
of course, i will find them eventually :-) |
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Evergeen |
Okay, if you dig junglegrass, there is a chance it will give you cotton seeds |
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morlin |
Evergeen: thanks |
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Evergeen |
If you dig regular grass, there is a chance it will give you wheat seeds |
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morlin |
will look for jungle grass |
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Evergeen |
Do you have jungles enabled? |
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morlin |
let's see ... |
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morlin |
no. no jungle in /mods |
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Evergeen |
No, it isn't a mod, it is something that has to be enabled in minetest.conf |
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morlin |
ok. thanks. sorry for my ignorance! |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
wow, under the dome's finale really blowed lol |
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Evergeen |
No problem, you are one of those rare people who are pleasant about asking questions. : |
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Evergeen |
Has nyone seen what mossmanikin did with the dry leaves? It's in Modding General in the "undergrowth topic. It looks amazing |
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Evergeen |
*anyone |
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morlin |
Evergeen: so i can guess so far by searching, that it has to do with mg_flags in my minetest.conf or in map_meta.txt on the server side |
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morlin |
Evergeen: are those flags documented or listed somewhere? |
| 19:09 |
ShadowNinja |
morlin: Feel free to update the wiki as you find necessary. :-) |
| 19:09 |
Evergeen |
Yes, it has to do with mg flags. look in minetest.conf.example for all the possible settings in minetest.conf |
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morlin |
ShadowNinja: ok. will do |
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Evergeen |
Remember to take out the "#" before each setting of course |
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morlin |
Evergeen: :-) |
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Evergeen |
No probelm. :_) |
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Evergeen |
*:-) |
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Jordach |
problem* |
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Jordach |
probelm is wrong |
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Evergeen |
Sorry, typing errors |
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Evergeen |
:P |
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thefamilygrog66 |
howdy folks |
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thefamilygrog66 |
<crickets> |
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* Calinou |
, the cricket, says: hi |
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thefamilygrog66 |
chirp |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Hey Calinou, if you're not busy, could you please move my Hedge Maze mod to the mod releases forum? |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
ok |
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thefamilygrog66 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7210 |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Thanks! |
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Calinou |
woah that's cool |
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Calinou |
moved |
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PilzAdam |
!tw githubstatus |
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MinetestBot |
We are currently experiencing major service outages. (@githubstatus) |
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ShadowNinja |
:-( GitHub died. |
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ShadowNinja |
I saw their 500 page... It is similar to the 404 page. |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Thanks Calinou - there's already an older (year old) mod called maze, but it looks like it's been abandoned, it uses a different generating algorithm, etc. |
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* thefamilygrog66 |
thinks he broke GitHub |
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jojoa1997 |
what is a 16*16*16 area in minetest. cant remember |
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sfan5 |
MapBlock |
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jojoa1997 |
thanks |
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VanessaE |
hi all |
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Calinou |
hi |
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thefamilygrog66_ |
hey, I'm a clone! |
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VanessaE |
thefamilygrog66: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d-aWMQuoS4 |
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VanessaE |
:) |
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thefamilygrog66 |
haha, nice |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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VanessaE |
figures. |
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VanessaE |
(it was "I Think I'm a Clone Now", Weird Al) |
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Evergreen |
Jordach: I can't seem to get the configure script in the openspade source to recognice that I have install glew |
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thefamilygrog66 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=110957#p110957 |
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Jordach |
Evergreen, sfan5 managed to get it working on ubuntu |
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Jordach |
esc = app close |
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Evergreen |
In that case, sfan5 ^ |
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Jordach |
i keep thinking esc will pause it D: |
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sfan5 |
Evergreen: use cmake |
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sfan5 |
^ me does too |
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Evergreen |
Okay, I'll try that |
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sfan5 |
esc asks before it closes it in the dev version |
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Jordach |
windows user problems :P |
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sfan5 |
Evergreen: oh, you need to use /usr/bin/clang for C and /usr/bin/clang++ as C++ compiler to secessfully compile things |
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Evergreen |
How would I do that? |
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sfan5 |
(need to install clang & clang++ package oviously) |
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sfan5 |
apt-get install clang clang++ |
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Evergreen |
duh |
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Jordach |
sfan5, im in |
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sfan5 |
Jordach: I'll be there in a sec |
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Jordach |
also: if you have either AoS 0.75 or OpenSpades: I'm open: 81.154.25.249 |
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sfan5 |
Evergreen: also this http://pastie.org/8334080 |
| 20:16 |
Evergreen |
So replace the files with the text in that pastie? |
| 20:17 |
Evergreen |
*file |
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Jordach |
i get 60fps with shaders disabled in OpenSpades |
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Jordach |
suck it minetest. |
| 20:18 |
Evergreen |
heh |
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Jordach |
you will need opengl version 2.1.x |
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sfan5 |
Evergreen: ... |
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Evergreen |
I'm sorry, I don't know too much about how compiling works |
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sfan5 |
Evergreen: http://pastie.org/8334091 put that into compile.patch and do "git am compile.patch" |
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Jordach |
provided Evergreen git cloned |
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ShadowNinja |
sfan5: Patch format detection failed. |
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Evergreen |
Where do I put the patch? |
| 20:31 |
Evergreen |
kaeza: Sadly, aseprite runs REALLY slowly on my computer. :S |
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kaeza |
Evergreen, Unity? |
| 20:32 |
Evergreen |
Yep |
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kaeza |
it runs awfully slow under unity for some reason, yes |
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kaeza |
runs OK under other WMs |
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Evergreen |
Huh, odd |
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Evergreen |
Oh well |
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Evergreen |
sfan5: I get this error when I run "make" http://pastie.org/8334125 |
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Jordach |
final kill! |
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VanessaE |
? |
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sfan5 |
I didnt have any ammo left |
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* Jordach |
just killed sfan5 |
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sfan5 |
that was not fair |
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* sfan5 |
just almost killed Jordach |
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Jordach |
all is fair in warfare |
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Jordach |
anyways, we can pick this up tomorrow |
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sfan5 |
Evergreen: it doesn't look like you use clang |
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sfan5 |
yeah |
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Jordach |
we should do practice runs |
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Jordach |
structures, etc |
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Jordach |
we'll probably use IRC |
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sfan5 |
Evergreen: use cmake-gui and use "Specify native compilers" and use "/usr/bin/clang" and "/usr/bin/clang++" |
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Evergreen |
Okay, thanks |
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thefamilygrog66 |
what are you guys playing? |
| 20:39 |
Jordach |
OpenSpades |
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sfan5 |
s/use/select/ s/use/fill in/ |
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Jordach |
!g "github openspades" |
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MinetestBot |
Jordach: No results found for '"github openspades"'. |
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* sfan5 |
goes to bed now |
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Jordach |
!g github openspades |
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MinetestBot |
Jordach: https://github.com/yvt/openspades |
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Jordach |
^ that |
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* Jordach |
too |
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sfan5 |
!g openspades stie:github.com |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: http://buildandshoot.com/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=5683 |
| 20:39 |
sfan5 |
"stie" well, der |
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sfan5 |
*derp |
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sfan5 |
good night |
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thefamilygrog66 |
can I join? |
| 20:39 |
sfan5 |
thefamilygrog66: we are already done |
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thefamilygrog66 |
d'oh |
| 20:39 |
sfan5 |
there are other public servers however |
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sfan5 |
good night Everyone |
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thefamilygrog66 |
night sfan5 |
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VanessaE |
play on mine :) |
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Evergreen |
sfan5: I'm not seeing the option for specify native compilers |
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thefamilygrog66 |
what's the server name VanessaE? |
| 20:43 |
Calinou |
VanessaE's Creative|Survival server |
| 20:43 |
Calinou |
of course |
| 20:43 |
VanessaE |
vanessae.mine.bz ports 30000 (creative) and 30001 (survival) |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Oh, different game, haha - openspades |
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VanessaE |
oh heh |
| 20:44 |
VanessaE |
missed that part :P |
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Evergreen |
sfan5: Can't find the option for specifying native compilers |
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thefamilygrog66 |
doesn't matter - my laptop can't play it |
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Evergreen |
I'm sorry that I keep repeating the question, but how do I change compilers for cmake? |
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* Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
makes coffee |
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kaeza |
Evergreen, lmgtfy http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ#How_do_I_use_a_different_compiler.3F |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
with my mall going on 3+ floors, there'll be room enough for this: http://www.interestingideas.com/roadside/signs/master2.jpg |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Yay, a Master Bait shop! |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Also, coffee sounds good |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: proller github.com commited to minetest/minetest: Fix null dereference in weather update functions f7ee5da4c1 2013-09-17T14:37:47-07:00 http://git.io/sat2Jw |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
the coffee, it does nothing! |
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johnDC |
hello |
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PilzAdam |
johnDC, for info about the compile flags for freetype etc. see the output of cmake . -LH |
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johnDC |
I see, but I don't know where to find leveldb lib and includes |
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PilzAdam |
what OS/distro do you use? |
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johnDC |
Win |
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PilzAdam |
win builds of leveldb are very rare |
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PilzAdam |
maybe ask sfan5 |
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johnDC |
and maybe the basic question - what is it for? |
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johnDC |
I mean leveldb |
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ShadowNinja |
johnDC: It is a faster database backend than sqlite3, it is optional. |
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PilzAdam |
leveldb is a different database backend; sqlite has problems with maps that grow > 4 GiB |
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johnDC |
I see |
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PilzAdam |
you will never reach that size in singleplayer |
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PilzAdam |
its mostly relevant for big servers |
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VanessaE |
PilzAdam: the weird thing is now the sqlite page doesn't say anything about that 4GB issue, but it did at one time. |
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VanessaE |
maybe the one bundled with MT is too old or something. |
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kaeza |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan, ping |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
kaeza pong |
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* Sokomine |
wants a goat model |
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Sokomine |
those sheep are so jumpy they need to be changed into goats |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
dont make the sheep too sexy |
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PilzAdam |
VanessaE, http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/wiki?p=DatabaseCorruption no fixes since 3.7.7.1 (the bundled version) |
| 22:48 |
VanessaE |
someone recently asked for a pig model... |
| 22:49 |
VanessaE |
huh |
| 22:49 |
VanessaE |
oh well, who knows why it happens :P |
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Sokomine |
pigs...no, don't want wild pigs to roam around the world. goats would be fine. they fit into that hilly/mountainlike world |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
what about them lady goats? |
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VanessaE |
what about chickens? someone, sooner or later, will ask for them :D |
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VanessaE |
(and MOBF already has the models ......... ) |
| 22:52 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
or a mousse? |
| 22:52 |
Sokomine |
mobf has chickens, so that's ok |
| 22:52 |
Sokomine |
vanessaes server does not yet have mobf. something to work on :) |
| 22:52 |
* Sokomine |
hides behind a sheep |
| 22:52 |
VanessaE |
a mousse? a blob of chocolate-flavored whipped dessert? ;) |
| 22:52 |
PilzAdam |
TODO: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals#Animals_.28by_common_name.29 |
| 22:52 |
VanessaE |
Sokomine: oh no, I ain't installing MOBF. |
| 22:53 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 22:54 |
Sokomine |
the animal models have to be rotated for usage in mobf, but apart from that, they ought to work fine in both mods |
| 22:54 |
jemadux |
is there some tutorial for minetest ? |
| 22:54 |
Sokomine |
tutorial? in which way? how to install or how to play or how to craft? |
| 22:55 |
jemadux |
play and craft .. i dont know that |
| 22:55 |
PilzAdam |
there is a wiki |
| 22:56 |
jemadux |
PilzAdam: thanks i'check it |
| 22:56 |
Sokomine |
have you played minecraft before? if so, much is at least similar |
| 22:57 |
Sokomine |
you do have an inventory with a crafting grid of 3x3 fields above the inventory. if you put items there in the right pattern, you can create new ones |
| 23:03 |
kahrl |
there are some tutorial maps but they seem to all be hosted on ompldr which is dead |
| 23:04 |
johnDC |
another newbie question - what i'm doing wrong? I've received this message "minetest\libvorbis-1.3.3\bin\libvorbisfile.dll : fatal error LNK1107: invalid or corrupt file: cannot read at 0x2B8" |
| 23:05 |
kaeza |
and turtles! all the way down! |
| 23:09 |
kahrl |
johnDC: that error usually means you need to link with the .lib instead of the .dll |
| 23:10 |
Sokomine |
WHERE? give me those turtles :-) (as animals!) |
| 23:16 |
johnDC |
kahrl: thnx, but it looks there is no libvorbisfile.dll avail., it is also not mentioned in guide, can it be issue with 32/64 version, or with different version of SDK and dll? |
| 23:23 |
kahrl |
johnDC: sorry I have no clue, I haven't actually compiled minetest on windows ever |
| 23:25 |
johnDC |
kahrl: no problem, thank you for your involvement |
| 23:29 |
Evergreen |
sfan5: I used clang in cmake, and I still got the same error |
| 23:29 |
Evergreen |
(for openspades) |
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Evergreen |
sfan5, I tried applying the patch, but it says "Patch format detection failed." |
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