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00:05 Yepoleb which terrain generation algorithm does minetest use?
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00:36 ntg255 A lo?
00:36 PilzAdam hi
00:37 ntg255 :) Hi
00:39 jojoa1997 Hello!
00:40 ntg255 :) So nice weather today.
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01:46 xiong Hi, I've been playing for quite some time but I don't know everything. Is there a block that obeys gravity but can be altered in situ to one that does not?
01:47 xiong I'll consider those from mods.
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01:48 Mossmanikin Hi folks
02:00 VanessaE hi
02:01 VanessaE xiong: sand and gravel obey gravity - you can "alter" them like any other, by replacing them with something that does not fall e.g. with minetest.set_node()
02:17 xiong Ah, VanessaE, not really what I wanted. Let me explain, if you'll indulge me.
02:18 VanessaE sure, go ahead
02:18 xiong I've been working hard for many weeks on lava lakes, trying to develop engineering techniques. I'm afraid I got into a rut with water quench; that's a dead end, really.
02:19 xiong The black rock is too hard to get out and has really little value. I sold some to a paranoid guy who wanted to build a stronghold but mostly, it's only good for black glass and it foams up at 9:1 so you only need so much.
02:19 VanessaE black == obsidian btw
02:19 xiong So lately I've been trying methods that depend on sand.
02:20 xiong I can spell 'obsidian' if I try hard enough. I can spell 'black rock' every time.
02:20 VanessaE lol
02:20 VanessaE so basically you wanna be able to clear out lava by building into it with something that will, eventually, solidify?
02:21 xiong Well, let me tell you... I already moved beyond my question, much to my surprise.
02:22 VanessaE ok, so use (falling) sand as your fill material, and get this mod:  https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=108742   ..which will transform the sand into glass in time.
02:22 xiong So recently I've tried a "walking wall" of sand. Dump sand into one end until flush with the surface, repeat until the wall is about three blocks thick, then remove the "dry" side. This works fine but requires one to have about 8-12 stacks of sand on tap and demands a huge amount of shoveling. Essentially, one is trying to remove *all* the lava; when all that's needed is to isolate the bottom.
02:23 VanessaE right
02:23 xiong Oh, I got a fix.
02:23 VanessaE there's no really easy way except worldedit
02:23 xiong Let me back up and state goals clearly:
02:23 xiong (1) Obtain minerals from sides and bottom of lake. These tend to be quite rich.
02:23 xiong (2) Plug up "rotten bottoms" so that lower levels can be worked.
02:24 kahrl would bucketing it away work?
02:24 VanessaE hmm...
02:24 xiong These amount to the same general thing: Build a solid, false bottom above the one existing.
02:24 VanessaE I see what you're getting at
02:24 VanessaE that would he Hard.
02:24 VanessaE (with a capital H)
02:24 xiong kahrl, I tried that. But when you pull a bucket of lava source, the space fills with flowing lava. You need to get *all* the source.
02:25 VanessaE the mod I pointed you to will make sand solidify, that's about the only thing that could come close
02:25 xiong Might with a lava can from 'technic'. Still too much work. The longer I think about it, the more I want to leave as much lava in place as possible. Who knows? I might want to go back for black rock someday.
02:25 VanessaE lay two layers of sand in your target area, let it harden, then you can simply mine out the generated glass from the bottom layer
02:25 xiong Aha, told you I got it.
02:25 VanessaE ok
02:26 xiong The gimmick depends on abuse of the quarter-block.
02:26 VanessaE that works too
02:26 kahrl I have a mod called sandjoy that makes a flat layer of sand around the block you're pointing at :P
02:27 xiong This is widely available in many different mods. I'll test out microblocks too, but those require the particular 'circular saw' mod.
02:28 xiong Here's the strategy: Place the quarter-block panel and step into the half-space it leaves. Then screwdriver it around into where you are standing; this works. Now step forward half a block, which lets you see the inside face, now facing the lava; so you can place another panel *into* the next lava block.
02:29 xiong That's so blatantly unrealistic I never tried it until now, even though I've been working with lava and panels before.
02:30 xiong You can build the false bottom overhead by placing blocks on the upper surface of the panel.
02:30 VanessaE heh
02:30 xiong The bizarre thing about this is that you can walk right across the bottom of a lava lake this way, without any support from either side. I've done a lot of underlava work but mostly relied on torches. I used panels but didn't take them to the limit.
02:31 Exio4 http://dpaste.com/1366412/
02:31 Exio4 wat.
02:31 Exio4 integer div slower than float/double div?
02:31 Exio4 can it be legit?
02:32 xiong This is typical of my previous underlava work: http://imgur.com/a/y1z0d#8
02:33 xiong I've relied on ladders and torches, with glass to fill so I can see what I'm doing. Now I'll see if I can get a decent shot of panel work.
02:34 xiong Ha ha, thanks for answering my question, VanessaE; I like it when I don't just ask a dumb question and get no answer. But this time, anyway, it was probably good that you delayed a little and forced me to think my way out.
02:34 VanessaE actually I was kinda preoccupied at that initial moment :-)
02:34 xiong Good luck is good. ;)
02:36 xiong Exio4, integer division is a fundamentally broken concept. That's mathematics, not computer.
02:37 xiong Formally, the set of integers is not closed under the operation of division. So the box has to work extra hard just to figure out what to do in the case of an invalid expression.
02:37 VanessaE which is weird because back in the 90's, we knew how to do 16+bit multiply and divide in a few dozen cycles, with the help of tables of squares
02:37 VanessaE (tables were only a few kB... a modern PC should be able to beat the pants off that method)
02:38 xiong Anyway, these days all boxes come with these nifty FPUs, so the work gets offloaded. Who knows, some compilers might be making the CPU do the integer "division".
02:38 xiong More hardware breeds crummy software.
02:38 VanessaE yep
02:39 kahrl if it's x86/emt64, they have integer div instructions
02:39 xiong If I were going to write a modern compiler, I'd take any demand for integer division and convert it to a float, send it out to the FPU, and figure out what to do with it when I got it back. Unless it was Some_int / 2, in which case, shift.
02:40 kahrl but they compute the remainder as well, which might be what is taking it so long
02:41 xiong See, there is no remainder. That's calculation of modulus, which is a distinct operation. I do not like devices that yield two outputs when I only want one.
02:42 xiong Let me see if I can get a good shot of panel work.
02:42 kahrl with elementary hardware algorithms to compute integer division the remainder is basically free
02:43 kahrl not sure what modern processors do
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04:33 GNADev|zRokh hi
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05:02 Inocudom The new coloration scheme of the grass and the dirt in VanessaE's HDX texture packs are an improvement. Might want to do the same to tree leaves and tree barks.
05:03 Inocudom The new textures for the farming and farming_plus plants are also improvements.
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07:38 e1z0 hi
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08:24 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Be Late For Something Day! :-D
08:30 kahrl ... like every other day? :D
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08:55 JamesTait kahrl, except today you get to celebrate it! (Late enough?)
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10:44 e1z0_ how can i implement welcome banner/motd in server ?
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10:54 otak I'm guessing open minetest.conf file and add the line motd = <your message>
11:08 Exio4 xiong: i would have said it was faster as my cpu 'is told' to not have a super-fast FPU but super-fast ALUs :P
11:09 xiong Eh? What do I know? I didn't build it.
11:10 xiong I have not seen a development in microarchitecture I liked since 32-bit registers.
11:10 Exio4 amd fx, bulldozer 6100
11:11 xiong I don't even like the one-chip CPU model. I think it's a mistake to pile everything on to one chip with 400 pins.
11:11 xiong I take it back: I like FPUs and GPUs. They should do more like that.
11:11 xiong However, quad-core is just stupid.
11:12 Exio4 why?
11:12 xiong Anyway, what do I know? I'm not an engineer anymore, I'm a derelict.
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11:14 xiong In my prime I wrote 2.5 Kb of machine code in 8085 assembler for a man who said I could have up to 4; I said I'd leave some room for future expansion. Turns out he reserved space on the board for a second EEPROM in case I went over. I never forgave him.
11:15 xiong That same guy tried to push me into polled I/O and we fought a knock-down, drag-out fight all over the lab. I got interrupts.
11:17 xiong That same guy tried to sell me a board with four -- yeah, four -- soft buttons; for an industrial controller. I said, it's a machine in a factory, there must be one red stop button that always stops it. We fought. I said and a green button that starts it. We fought. I said and a white button to one side, I'll use it as a Shift key, get 13 buttons for the price of 7. We fought.
11:17 xiong He agreed to all 7 buttons eventually... then ordered them all in black. I'll never forgive him.
11:19 xiong The irony being, on that contract I was tasked as the software jock and he was the hardware dog. I ended up doing more of the hardware than he did.
11:20 xiong There, that's your bedtime story. Kiss Daddy night-night and sleep happy dreams of peppermint-colored IC's jumping over the rainbow cable.
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12:34 sfan5 hi everyone
12:42 harrison http://youtu.be/ShSlAFKebTs
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13:00 KikaRz ohai
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13:20 Jordach afternoon, morning and evening
13:23 Exio4 night Jordach
13:23 Exio4 >:)
13:31 Jordach while PilzAdam is away
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13:37 NekoGloop the cats will play!
13:40 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8REH76quG0 /me likes this a lot
13:41 * Jordach calls bullshit on the weather
13:44 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/BQcL6JQ.jpg
13:44 Jordach i also blurred WIP render stuff ;)
13:45 Calinou no, it's your porn folder
13:45 Calinou j/k :p
13:46 Jordach haha
13:46 Jordach fun fact: i converted that folder into a AES-256 encrypted hidden partition
13:49 Jordach Calinou, Contains: 45,246 Files, 1,410 Folders
13:49 Calinou definitely a porn folder then
13:50 Jordach Calinou, true crypt is your friend
13:52 Jordach john_minetest, that's a 4000x4000px image of a grass node
13:54 Jordach strange: a game i'm playing with the come back daily reward has something interesting; there is a light/dark alternating pattern, you only earn the prize on the light ones, (dark ones are near impossible)
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13:56 * Calinou is playing http://orteil.dashnet.org/cookieclicker/
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14:19 sfan5 Jordach: why did you blur out the name of vlc files?
14:19 Jordach sfan5, render stuff
14:20 sfan5 >vlc files >render stuff
14:20 Calinou Minetest rule 34 renders
14:20 sfan5 you sure?
14:20 sfan5 haha
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14:22 Jordach sfan5, i render in .ogg with a video track
14:22 sfan5 ah ok
14:22 Jordach (not to mention clementine does not play every media file, vlc does that)
14:24 sfan5 what I just did: *me browsing reddit* ..I'm bored, lets see whats new on reddit *derp*
14:25 Jordach bunch or random files with .mp3 and .ogg: http://i.imgur.com/1PcQB7V.png
14:28 * Jordach has an idea
14:28 Jordach it can wait for a few months
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14:40 Jordach > distro_hopper
14:40 Jordach seems legit
14:42 Jordach $5 that PilzAdam is at college or Uni
14:44 * Jordach heads back into LibreOffice to practice written English
14:45 Jordach 4.x series ftw
14:46 Jordach i should've gone, but my transport failed to arrive
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14:48 thexyz > vlc
14:48 thexyz > windows
14:49 Jordach thexyz, i use it mainly for audio usage. and youtube conversions
14:49 thexyz > winrar
14:50 Jordach thexyz, DILLIGAF
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14:55 thexyz Jordach: do you not enjoy the freedom?
14:55 Jordach thexyz, i enjoy freedom. but that freedom is limited by the license. which is not true freedom
14:56 Jordach doing as i please (installing non free, etc) is my freedom
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14:56 thexyz Jordach: oh, so you're knowingly limiting your freedom and think that this (limiting your freedom) *is* your freedom
14:57 thexyz I see a nice job done by Big Corps
14:57 Jordach thexyz, freedom of choice > license freedom
14:57 thexyz ha, ha
14:57 thexyz you don't have "freedom of choice"
14:58 Jordach there are several generic pieces of software: word processing, graphics, etc
14:58 Jordach and they all do their job
14:59 Jordach and end users don't give a single fuck about freedom, just as long as the software WORKS.
14:59 thexyz yeah, and that's pretty bad
15:00 Jordach not really.
15:00 thexyz I see a good job done
15:00 Jordach you keep thinking the end user knows exactly how license freedom works
15:00 thexyz I'm talking about licenses
15:00 thexyz I'm talking about what I'm allowed to do with the software I use
15:00 thexyz in free world I can freely modify it to suit my needs
15:01 thexyz in any closed ecosystem (Microsoft's, Apple's, Google's) I have no idea what software *does*
15:01 Jordach the user doesn't care for that
15:02 thexyz moreover, because of such ignorant users I now have to spend fuckton of time removing fucking DRM from fucking ebook
15:02 thexyz Jordach: I was asking you, actually
15:03 Jordach thexyz, generic needs are programmed for, special needs are not.
15:03 Jordach and that is a primary reason why linux isn't mainstream
15:03 thexyz Jordach: you are either not following or are trying to
15:03 thexyz but that's pretty clear
15:04 thexyz you think it's normal
15:04 thexyz I think it's not
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15:19 distro_hopper too legit to quit  ;)
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15:24 Zeg9 Hi
15:24 Zeg9 Is the Off-Topic section gone?
15:25 Zeg9 ^forget that. But why does it require to login to see it ? :P
15:25 Jordach yep
15:25 Jordach quassel just errors when attempting to get a page overview
15:26 thexyz Zeg9: because it's worse than /b/
15:26 thexyz (I think; I've never visited /b/)
15:26 Jordach thexyz, then it's a good idea to visit /b/ then
15:27 thexyz it's never a good idea
15:27 thexyz I have enough bullshit in boards I visit
15:27 Jordach and the occaisional good bit of porn too
15:28 thexyz I only visit SFW boards
15:28 Jordach oh
15:28 Jordach ...u jelly?
15:29 thexyz it seems it causes severe brain damage
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15:35 sfan5 heh
15:44 Jordach wat https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=109140#p109140
15:45 Jordach oh god: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=109137#p109137
15:45 Jordach necroposting: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=109141#p109141
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15:53 Jordach huh, google chrome bug spotted
15:54 Jordach using the drag on the tbar icon upward, the menu for new incognito window spawns a normal one
15:54 Jordach only if chrome isn't open
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16:04 DanDuncombe Help? Debug gives the error: <name> expected after 'local'     The line in question is this:         local frompos = { x = pos.x, y = pos.y, z = pos.z }
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16:10 DanDuncombe Anyone?
16:13 DanDuncombe Help?
16:17 DanDuncombe Helloooo?
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16:20 DanDuncombe Anyone able to help?
16:20 thexyz hello, this line is correct
16:20 DanDuncombe IDK why it wouldn't work
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16:26 DanDuncombe Hellooooo?
16:26 STHGOM hellooooo
16:26 DanDuncombe Are you good at modding?
16:27 STHGOM me?
16:27 DanDuncombe Yes
16:27 Zeg9 Hey Dan, sparky
16:27 STHGOM what do you need?
16:27 STHGOM hi Zeg
16:27 DanDuncombe Oh, hi Zeg9. Basically this: Help? Debug gives the error: <name> expected after 'local'     The line in question is this:         local frompos = { x = pos.x, y = pos.y, z = pos.z }
16:28 Zeg9 can you paste a few lines that surround this?
16:28 Zeg9 (use pastebin or the like)
16:28 DanDuncombe I'llpaste the abm
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16:29 DanDuncombe http://pastebin.com/5G4VnbAJ
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16:29 hoodedice Mods?
16:30 hoodedice Is asking for torrents allowed?
16:30 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=109136#p109136
16:30 Jordach just ignore it
16:30 hoodedice And necrobumping ?
16:30 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=602
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16:31 STHGOM_ hi
16:32 DanDuncombe So Zeg9, can you figure out the problem??
16:32 hoodedice with?
16:32 DanDuncombe local frompos = { x = pos.x, y = pos.y, z = pos.z }
16:32 DanDuncombe Debug gives the error: <name> expected after 'local'
16:32 thexyz hoodedice: I don't see any problems so long as torrents/links to them aren't posted on forum
16:32 Zeg9 remove the "local frompos, tonode," line
16:33 Zeg9 DanDuncombe, ↑
16:33 hoodedice OK
16:33 DanDuncombe Ok
16:33 hoodedice But necrobumping? The topic is over 2 years old!
16:33 DanDuncombe But they are needed are  they not?
16:33 Zeg9 Nop, you alreadt sat that they are local in the "local frompos = [...]"
16:34 Zeg9 you should add local near "tonode = minetest.get_node(...)" though
16:34 Zeg9 ...
16:34 DanDuncombe local frompos and local fromnode are different
16:34 Zeg9 line 24 and 25, add "local", and remove the line 6
16:34 thexyz hoodedice: dunno, well, shout at them if you want to
16:34 Zeg9 sorry, just read too fast ;)
16:35 hoodedice Well, I  can't say anything, Dan's already pointed out that it's old.
16:35 hoodedice We'll shout when he/she bumps something else
16:35 hoodedice Where he/she = DigAmy
16:36 hoodedice Oh, Dan did not say that it's old. Shouting in progress.
16:37 DanDuncombe Thanks Zeg9!
16:38 hoodedice DanDucombe is your zombie texture competition thingy still open? How long for?
16:40 DanDuncombe IDK. Rhys has submitted a texture, it will of cousrse need tweaking to fit the zombie model.
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16:41 hoodedice Jordach
16:42 hoodedice (Cheese salad? lol)
16:43 Jordach what
16:43 DanDuncombe Okay another problem
16:43 Jordach hoodedice, suggestions
16:43 Jordach !op
16:43 hoodedice What program do you use for making skins again?
16:43 hoodedice Shawarma !!!
16:44 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | Sandwich of the day: Shawarma
16:44 hoodedice (Something that would prolly make people google it)
16:44 hoodedice (Yaaay !!!)
16:44 Jordach hoodedice, i use MC Skin 3D
16:44 hoodedice ok thanks
16:44 hoodedice A lot.
16:44 hoodedice =D
16:45 DanDuncombe Debug says that I tried to index 'transactor_transactions' in this lua file, which I didn't, also, aparently theres a problem with line 21. The chest.lua DOES exist.
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16:47 DanDuncombe Can someone help this guy? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=109145#p109145
16:48 Calinou we can help him not triple-post
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16:49 hoodedice Not again
16:49 DanDuncombe Also, never mind 'bout the mod
16:49 hoodedice -.-
16:49 * Jordach was going to merge posts
16:49 hoodedice K I'll post everything
16:49 * Calinou walks near Jordach and taunts with pistol
16:50 * Jordach attacks Calinou with the Dubstep Gun
16:50 Exio4 wubwubwub
16:50 Calinou Vinyl Scratch approves
16:50 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPdtzGWHR_w
16:52 Jordach anyone want a portal gun made in blender (minetest-y)
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16:53 Exio4 http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/3219282/Wubwubwub/
16:53 Exio4 \o/
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16:53 Jordach > funnyjunk
16:53 Jordach i'd rather browse 9gag
16:53 Jordach even then i'd prefer imgur
16:54 Exio4 https://www.google.com/search?q=wubwubwub
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16:59 hoodedice Done.
16:59 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=109154#p109154
16:59 hoodedice (Oh, I got ninj'd)
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17:04 Jordach ASHPD: http://i.imgur.com/kIcgR58.png
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17:05 hoodedice *facepalm* https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=109156#p109156
17:05 hoodedice *Some people*
17:06 [0gb_us] Well, he does admit to being a madman.
17:07 [0gb_us] Wow, that's half his total posts right there.
17:07 hoodedice haha
17:07 hoodedice I invited him here. Get ready for fl000000000000000000000f
17:07 hoodedice *fl000000000000000000d
17:08 [0gb_us] If he doesn't know how to edit posts, will he know how to connect to IRC?
17:09 [0gb_us] Not to bag on him or anything, but realistically ...
17:10 hoodedice haha
17:10 hoodedice That true.
17:10 hoodedice And that's why schools should teach programming
17:12 [0gb_us] Programming, the importance of free (as in freedom, not price) software, IRC knowledge, version management software, ...
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17:12 hoodedice indeed.
17:13 hoodedice Well, he's gone =)
17:13 [0gb_us] Oh, and how to use a forum. It shouldn't be that hard.
17:14 hoodedice Jordach
17:15 hoodedice -.-
17:15 [0gb_us] Yes, they should. I want to know how to encrypt emails and make GPG keys ...
17:15 thexyz schools should teach how to operate a PC
17:15 [0gb_us] A non-Windows PC.
17:15 hoodedice Ah Germany
17:15 thexyz a PC
17:15 hoodedice Ubuntu heaven
17:16 [0gb_us] Okay, good.
17:16 hoodedice And that's why PilzAdam uses kubuntu
17:16 hoodedice =)
17:17 [0gb_us] THat, and maybe because he doesn't want to deal with all the problems associated with only Windows. He's smart like that.
17:17 thexyz kids should know how to use PC, not how to use Facebook, Twitter, etc
17:17 hoodedice " kids should know how to use PC, not how to use Facebook, Twitter, etc"  I love you.
17:17 sfan5 john_minetest: in our school we have ubuntu (fucking) 9.04
17:17 [0gb_us] Me too.
17:18 [0gb_us] (In response to sfan5.)
17:18 [0gb_us] (I mean hoodedice.)
17:18 [0gb_us] I wish they had Trisquel.
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17:18 sfan5 hahahahaha
17:18 hoodedice Distro war in 3.... 2...
17:18 sfan5 epic fail http://i.imgur.com/acHfwdd.jpg
17:19 sfan5 blanking out a local network IP
17:19 thexyz https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=109133#p109133
17:19 hoodedice Linux = UWTFYL
17:19 [0gb_us] WHat is "UWTFYL"?
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17:20 hoodedice Use What The Fish You Like
17:20 hoodedice Where Fish is any four letter word that starts with F
17:20 sfan5 Use What The Face You Like
17:21 [0gb_us] I mostly feel that way.
17:21 hoodedice (DId someone say Alicia Keys is hot?)
17:21 hoodedice lol
17:21 hoodedice @ thexyz
17:21 STHGOM Use What The muck You Like
17:21 STHGOM that just sounds weired
17:23 Jordach sfan5, MC:PE
17:24 STHGOM i just made a program with fstream :D
17:24 [0gb_us] Another company is trying to get me to share their stuff on Facebook/Twitter .... For a chance to win a vespa. I don'r even know what a vespa is.
17:24 sfan5 !g vespa
17:24 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.vespausa.com/
17:25 sfan5 yep, italy
17:25 hoodedice Vespa...
17:25 STHGOM when did the sandwich of the day change?
17:25 hoodedice Right...
17:25 hoodedice STHGOM : About 15 minuts ago
17:25 hoodedice Vespa. Sucks.
17:26 * Jordach has rode a vespa
17:26 hoodedice People in my place ride it like it's a Ducati orr something
17:27 [0gb_us] I wouldn't win if I did what they want anyway. So why should I give them what they want? I'm not messing up my Twitter account for a "chance" at something, and I'm not signing up for an account with Facebook, which demands my cell phone number (by the way, I have no cell phone).
17:27 hoodedice Nah, With that attitude
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17:27 DanDuncombe Is there any way to make an abm faster than 1 second?
17:27 hoodedice Jordach !
17:28 hoodedice In this mcskin3d thingy
17:28 hoodedice lol @ john
17:28 hoodedice Do I need to import some sort of minetest mesh?
17:28 Jordach hoodedice, what
17:28 Jordach hoodedice, you just create a new skin, and it's in human form by default
17:29 hoodedice Works with MT?
17:29 Jordach hoodedice, yes
17:29 Jordach that's how i made sam II
17:29 hoodedice O.K.
17:29 DanDuncombe As far as I can tell john_minetest, the answer is no, I just wanted to check
17:29 hoodedice Indeed, we did ripoff MC
17:29 hoodedice (A few things, not everything)
17:31 [0gb_us] Who is Sam?
17:31 Jordach the default minetest player name
17:31 hoodedice It's actually Sam II
17:31 hoodedice II.V
17:31 [0gb_us] I see. I remember back when it was just a nameless skin.
17:31 hoodedice XI IX
17:32 hoodedice *LX IX
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17:37 sfan5 lawl http://www.change.org/petitions/discontinue-internet-explorer
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17:39 STHGOM hi
17:39 Jordach sfan5, signed it
17:39 [0gb_us] It's not holding the Internet back any more than WIndows holds the rest of the tech world back.
17:39 [0gb_us] And they are not going to discontinue Windows.
17:40 NekoGloop <insert hate for windows here>
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17:40 Peacock ooo, an os-war, i always have great timing for joining a channel lol
17:41 STHGOM :D
17:41 [0gb_us] I think it stems from not having anything better to talk about here most of the time.
17:41 NekoGloop because minetest is just as boring
17:41 [0gb_us] Who even plays Minetest anymore?
17:41 Peacock well its my experience that people always find something to bicker over lol
17:41 hoodedice " I think it stems from not having anything better to talk about here most of the time. "
17:42 hoodedice +1
17:42 hoodedice "Who even plays Minetest anymore?" I still play
17:42 Peacock especially geeks
17:42 [0gb_us] That was a joke. I play a little between homework sessions.
17:43 Peacock users play alot, modders play a little, the devs, not sure lol
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17:43 [0gb_us] Though I can't get the game to run well on Trisquel. Then again, I can't get Trisquel to run well on my system, so it could be that.
17:43 DanDuncombe I am a modder and I play a lot
17:43 hoodedice Look at this http://www.change.org/users/13331498
17:43 hoodedice lol
17:44 Peacock with trisquel you get to enjoy libreness but not much else :p
17:44 hoodedice I am a wannabe modder and I play a lot !!!
17:44 Peacock totally free to suck lol
17:44 [0gb_us] I get the feeling most of the devs gave up on playing the game. I know Celeron did, and I think Adam did. (I'm not using full names to avoid alerting them.)
17:45 hoodedice Shall I? Be a D and alert them?
17:45 [0gb_us] Are they even on? They're not on. That was for nothing.
17:46 DanDuncombe What about sfan?
17:46 [0gb_us] I don't know sfan's habits as well, so I'm not sure.
17:46 Jordach sfan5 afaik plays often
17:47 * sfan5 often plays <what?>
17:47 Jordach minetest
17:47 DanDuncombe With Minetest
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17:48 hoodedice Minetest [0.4.7 Beta] (TM) (R) (GPL - See terms and conditions. We are not liable for any atomic explosions due to sheer awesomeness)
17:49 STHGOM LOL
17:49 [0gb_us] Minetest is a registered trademark now? I have a hard time believing that. The rest sounds like something one of the site maintainers would write.
17:50 hoodedice Dude. Joke.
17:50 hoodedice Jordach
17:51 hoodedice MCSkin3D - Mirroring on the mesh is annoying me.
17:51 * Jordach doesnt have that
17:51 hoodedice ?
17:51 DanDuncombe Do you mean right arm mirrors left arm
17:51 Jordach i'm using one of the 1.4.x
17:51 hoodedice I paint on the left arm, it copies over onto the right
17:51 hoodedice ya
17:51 Jordach hoodedice, mc does that as well as minetest
17:51 DanDuncombe Because that is how the Minecraft player model is textured
17:51 [0gb_us] Yeah ... that's a bug in the skin format, not the editor.
17:52 hoodedice So I can paint left and right seperately?
17:52 hoodedice Crap.
17:52 hoodedice *can't
17:52 [0gb_us] The arms and legs cannot be painted seperatly due to that issue.
17:52 [0gb_us] I ran into the same problem when I tried to build a skin.
17:53 Jordach I GOT A PORTAL GUN! I GOT A PORTAL GUN! http://i.imgur.com/Uf33hI1.png
17:53 hoodedice Why can't WE have a workaround? *sigh*
17:53 NekoGloop may I add that that looks nothing like a portal gun
17:53 Jordach NekoGloop, blocky
17:53 [0gb_us] Shoot those portals! DIE, PORTALS.
17:55 [0gb_us] We need to fix the skin format. But due to people wanting compatibility with Minecraft, it is doubtful that we'll make the necessary changes. Minecraft is holding us back.
17:55 NekoGloop fuck compatibility
17:55 [0gb_us] Exactly.
17:55 NekoGloop why not remove compatibility with windows, windows is holding you back :P
17:55 [0gb_us] SOunds good.
17:55 * Jordach waits for every player who uses custom skins on servers when the format changes
17:56 Jordach INCOMING SHITSTORM!
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18:01 rubenwardy Hi all
18:01 [0gb_us] Hello!
18:02 e1z0 why minetest does not load utf8 encoded lua scripts ?
18:03 [0gb_us] It doesn't? That's odd. I though my scripts were in that format.
18:03 [0gb_us] *thought
18:03 rubenwardy Just finishing off Food Mod 2.0
18:03 rubenwardy It has support for multiple mods AT THE SAME TIME!
18:04 NekoGloop IMPOSSIBRU
18:04 Jordach rubenwardy, http://i.imgur.com/Uf33hI1.png
18:04 e1z0 i'm in trouble, hmm, can't translate it in another language
18:04 e1z0 got stuck in that utf thing
18:04 Jordach john_minetest, 'tis a portal device
18:05 rubenwardy Well I have done the impossible!
18:05 e1z0 ERROR[main]: GUIEngine: unable to load builtin menu
18:05 e1z0 :-(
18:11 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnCw1zXtaLs
18:12 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/food/tree/ActualVersion2
18:13 rubenwardy To do: drinks and soups
18:15 Calinou sorting would be useful, yeah
18:15 Calinou but not that much
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18:17 Calinou or ping
18:19 [0gb_us] THe server list shows servers with fast?
18:19 [0gb_us] I'm not seeing it.
18:19 Calinou no, it doesn't
18:20 [0gb_us] How do you set up a blacklist or whitelist in Minetest? Is that even possible by default?
18:21 [0gb_us] If it isn't a buil-in option, it's not going to show up on that list.
18:22 [0gb_us] I agree from a non-technical standpoint, but disagree from a technical standpoint.
18:22 e1z0 how to disable debug window ?
18:23 e1z0 or compile without debug ?
18:23 [0gb_us] Do you mean the Terminal?
18:24 [0gb_us] Start Minetest without the command line and you get no debug info showing.
18:25 sfan5 [0gb_us]: windows always opens a window for minetest
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18:26 rubenwardy unless you compile with no console param flag
18:26 [0gb_us] Ah, I was blissfully unaware.
18:26 rubenwardy #pragma comment(linker, "/subsystem:windows /ENTRY:mainCRTStartup")
18:27 rubenwardy Put that in a cpp and compile
18:29 Jordach preferably main.cpp
18:30 rubenwardy yeah
18:31 Jordach rubenwardy, about 40 mins ago it was raining and thundering, did you get any?
18:31 rubenwardy no
18:31 Jordach also: cup of tea time
18:31 rubenwardy The sky is VERY dark
18:31 Jordach was in norfolk
18:31 rubenwardy It was drisling
18:32 rubenwardy PM, Jordach
18:32 Calinou "drisling" isn't a valid word here
18:32 rubenwardy It is 7pm for me, and it is still light from sun
18:32 rubenwardy I just had 30 second lag!
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18:36 [0gb_us] Tea time? Okay. http://www.negativeworld.org/images/articles/henryhatsworth6.jpg
18:37 [0gb_us] Tea Time always makes me think of Henry Hatsworth.
18:37 * rubenwardy loves cream tea
18:37 * john_minetest loves red tea.
18:37 * Calinou loves no tea
18:38 * rubenwardy loves waffles
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18:38 * [0gb_us] loves whatever tea his sponsors are paying him to love
18:38 Jordach hahahahahahaha plol
18:39 * rubenwardy puts a cat on MinetestBot's head
18:39 * NekoGloop loves kittens :3
18:39 [0gb_us] Kittens .... I'm sure I have a cute picture of one here somewhere ....
18:39 * john_minetest puts a black-white kitten on NekoGloop's head.
18:39 rubenwardy ........................................................................................#
18:39 NekoGloop kuroshironeko~
18:40 [0gb_us] http://forgifs.com/gallery/v/Kitten-kiss-wakes-dad.gif.html
18:41 * Jordach has a dirty joke again
18:41 * Jordach read lesbianmania from the preview in quassel
18:42 e1z0 http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Notch
18:42 e1z0 lolo
18:42 MinetestBot john_minetest: Minecraft - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia
18:46 [0gb_us] I like that description of creative mode. That's how I feel about it too.
18:47 Jordach False Alarm: <VE-Survival> *** TweekCoffee joined the game <- read that as twerkcoffee
18:48 [0gb_us] I don't get it.
18:48 Jordach just. dont.
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18:48 e1z0 hmm that line does not help
18:48 Jordach \o/
18:48 e1z0 debug window is shown
18:48 e1z0 :|
18:49 NekoGloop Is little jordach the slightest bit horny today? :P
18:49 Jordach NekoGloop, i'm permanent
18:49 Jordach i just do what bruce banner does: i'm always <statement>
18:50 Jordach NekoGloop, wanna take a trip down my lost bookmarks aisle?
18:50 rubenwardy bye all
18:50 NekoGloop not really
18:50 Jordach ^ noticed it
18:51 e1z0 Jordach: i'm running minetest under windows
18:51 Jordach so do i, it's not hard
18:51 e1z0 #pragma comment(linker, "/subsystem:windows /ENTRY:mainCRTStartup"); does not help
18:51 e1z0 :|
18:51 Jordach is this mingw or msvc
18:52 e1z0 mingw
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18:52 NekoGloop Are you running it under windows or under fake-windows
18:52 Jordach that probably works in msvc; as rubenwardy uses msvc
18:52 e1z0 under windows
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18:53 e1z0 any other solutions ? :|
18:53 NekoGloop Double click on the .exe
18:55 sfan5 “Saying Java is good because it works on all operating systems is like saying anal sex is good because it works on all genders.” hahahahaha
18:55 NekoGloop sfan5, so... I fail to see the problem.
18:55 Jordach plolololololololololololololol
18:56 Jordach now that's just absurd :P
18:56 Jordach > sfan5
18:56 e1z0 ;-))
18:56 sfan5 :P
18:56 Jordach > anal sex in the sentance
18:56 * Jordach 's brain fries
18:56 Jordach like ragnare
18:56 Jordach -e
18:56 sfan5 I blame http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Java
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18:56 NekoGloop lua is for people who are too lazy to compile
18:58 [0gb_us] And too lazy to index from zero and end line with semicolons.
18:58 [0gb_us] *lines
18:58 NekoGloop ending lines with semicolons is stupid anyway
19:00 [0gb_us] No, it opens doors for multi-line "lines".
19:00 NekoGloop That's also true
19:00 [0gb_us] Yeah .... I saw that comic too.
19:00 [0gb_us] THey added a link to that comic in actual Python.
19:01 [0gb_us] If you try to import antigravity, I'm told you are redirected there.
19:01 * Jordach bets $5 that sfan5 writes minetestserver in python
19:02 sfan5 D:
19:02 sfan5 how did you know I'm reading http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Python now D:
19:02 * Jordach can see everyones browsing habits
19:02 Jordach i just plug into the internet
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19:03 [0gb_us] " Many individual Java programmers claim that it is the very best technology available, particularly when they don't know anything else. "
19:03 sfan5 I thought you get Java.IO.Internet.KillerMonkeys.InternetDestroyedException when doing that
19:04 NekoGloop no, sfan, you get Java.IO.Internet.Noob.Derp.Foo.Bar.Meow.Exceptions.ItsNotMyFaultException
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19:09 sfan5 Image on http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/PNG "PNG can do a lot of things." ... is a jpg
19:12 sfan5 yep
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19:13 Mossmanikin Hi folks
19:14 [0gb_us] Hello!
19:16 Jordach Mossmanikin, just saw grasses: awesome!
19:16 Mossmanikin Jordach: Thanks :)
19:17 e1z0 :'(
19:17 e1z0 not possible to disable debug window
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19:23 Mossmanikin Jordach: I'm thinking about letting the plants spawn as one node with "excessive" use of "[combine"... what do you think, would this be an improvement?
19:27 Jordach Mossmanikin, you can always use scale
19:29 Jordach see that underwater life mod
19:29 * Jordach cant remember the author
19:30 Mossmanikin Jordach: yeah, I'd use scale too, but I don't like if the pixels have different sizes. Do you mean "sea" by Topywo?
19:30 Jordach yeah, that one
19:31 Calinou hi
19:31 Mossmanikin Hi
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19:31 Jordach noooooooooooooooooooo
19:32 Jordach i come 8th in most referenced nicks
19:33 [0gb_us] Where do you get these stats?
19:33 Calinou ask the sandwich of the day
19:34 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/nklSVVi.png
19:34 Jordach look who i found
19:34 Calinou and a !pony one
19:35 Jordach [0gb_us], http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html
19:36 Jordach nope nope nope
19:36 * Jordach goes ahead and devalues it
19:36 Calinou devaluing--
19:36 [0gb_us] I see.
19:37 Jordach i'm second place in total rankings
19:37 * Jordach needs to bump that by a few thousand
19:37 Mossmanikin :D
19:39 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/Obl9L4i.png
19:39 Jordach john_minetest, yes, i can d-d-d-drop the bass
19:40 * sfan5 throws a kitten at Calinou
19:40 * Jordach throws a kitten at sfan5
19:40 * sfan5 puts Rainbow Dash on Jordach's head
19:41 * Jordach runs
19:41 * sfan5 puts Derpy Hooves on john_minetest's head
19:41 Jordach i found xyz fixing the forums http://dash.ponychan.net/chan/files/src/136880052747.gif
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19:45 Prestotron552 Hey guys, I'm working on the Skyrim mod.
19:45 Prestotron552 Anybody want to help with it?
19:46 Mossmanikin Hi
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19:46 Prestotron552 Greetings bro
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19:46 [0gb_us] Me neither.
19:47 Prestotron552 No not like that. I mean for Minetest. Like adding cool monsters and weapons. Sort of like an RPG mod for Minetest
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19:47 Calinou that has nothing to do with skyrim then :P
19:47 Jordach Prestotron552, is it copy pasta btw
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19:48 Prestotron552 I call it a Skrim mod because Skyrim has cool tools and weapons, along with cool animals. I thought I could create something of the sort.
19:49 Calinou it still isn't one, and you shouldn't call it like that :P
19:50 Prestotron552 How about Minetest Medieval Mod
19:50 Prestotron552 ?
19:50 Prestotron552 Also, why when I try to talk in #minetest-dev it says the channel cannot send it.
19:51 [0gb_us] Probably only the devs are authorized to speak on that channel.
19:52 Prestotron552 Oh because celeron55 said I should talk there because I am thinking about joining the Minetest Dev. He said talk there.
19:52 [0gb_us] Well, I could be wrong. Are you registered with Freenode?
19:53 [0gb_us] Maybe you have to be logged into Freenode to speak there.
19:53 sfan5 webchat is blocked in #minecraft-dev
19:53 Prestotron552 Why blocked?
19:53 sfan5 because spammers
19:54 Prestotron552 Why would celeron say to talk there then?
19:54 VanessaE <offtopic> suggestions for a good, free, ad-free Android IRC client?</offtopic>
19:54 VanessaE also, hi
19:54 sfan5 get a real IRC client
19:54 sfan5 VanessaE: hi, H
19:54 sfan5 HexChat
19:54 VanessaE wait, I guess that was actually ON topic for a change :D
19:54 khonkhortisan webchat is for the non-serious ircers
19:54 [0gb_us] Hello!
19:54 khonkhortisan hi
19:55 Mossmanikin Prestotron552: In case you didn't know: there is the DarkAge mod for non modern building materials https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3213 and the cottages mod https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5120
19:55 [0gb_us] Sorry, I know nothing of mobile OSs.
19:55 [0gb_us] Or their software.
19:55 Jordach VanessaE, YAAIC
19:55 Jordach !g yaaic irc client
19:55 MinetestBot Jordach: http://www.yaaic.org/
19:55 VanessaE hm, don't see hexchat for android..
19:55 Jordach VanessaE, ^^^
19:55 Prestotron552 Mossmanikin, I know, I want to make something better. Like something huge.
19:56 VanessaE Jordach: ok.
19:56 Jordach it's open source.
19:57 Calinou most people I've seen say yaaic sucks compared to AndChat
19:57 Prestotron552 Brb guys
19:59 Jordach Calinou, i've used it on my 7'' tablet, nothing wrong
20:00 Jordach people are just bitching for no good reason
20:00 sfan5 VanessaE: oh god derp; do s/HexChat/AndChat/
20:00 Calinou they do, yeah
20:00 Calinou yaaic's development seems quite inactive :/
20:00 Jordach Calinou, it was also a shitty cheap tablet too, Yaaic is fine
20:01 VanessaE sfan5: hahah
20:02 VanessaE ok
20:02 Prestotron552 Back
20:02 VanessaE wb
20:02 ShadowNinja I found AndChat better than YAAIC. But I like QuasselDroid even better.
20:02 Prestotron552 Oh sfan5, I quit Crevis. You don't have to compile anymore.
20:02 Jordach VanessaE, i love the regex function in quassel, i get notifications when someone joins your servers
20:02 sfan5 Prestotron552: daww :(
20:02 VanessaE hm, andchat isn't open source? :-/
20:03 ShadowNinja Nope.
20:03 Jordach VanessaE, yaaic it is
20:03 Prestotron552 sfan5, Why so sad. Everybody hated us because it was a fork but better.
20:03 Jordach > but better
20:03 Jordach it's a modpack
20:03 ShadowNinja If you're willing to try out Quassel then you can use QuasselDroid.
20:04 Prestotron552 Well actaully, we added things that didnt have a mod. Such as Freight Crystals.
20:04 * Jordach goes into the shed for a deckchair
20:04 Calinou andchat is also shareware
20:04 * Jordach then grabs a beer and a shotgun
20:05 VanessaE sfan5: any ads in this program?
20:05 Prestotron552 sfan5, how did you become and contributer and how would I contribute to Minetest? I would really like to help. Maybe not be a full(everyone knows me) guy. I just kinda want to help on a few things here and there.
20:06 sfan5 VanessaE: haven't seen any
20:06 VanessaE ok, good
20:06 VanessaE back to regular on-topic stuff now :-)
20:06 Calinou "contributor" is preferred to "contributer" in thi scase
20:06 sfan5 Prestotron552: just fork and pull-request
20:06 Prestotron552 Like on the ohloh how there is MANY people who helped.
20:06 * Jordach is in that list
20:06 Prestotron552 Fork and pull-request?
20:06 Calinou there are many ways to contribute, create nice mods, nice texture packs, nice sounds, a nice feature (C++)...
20:07 Prestotron552 Jordach is in that list
20:07 ShadowNinja Prestotron552: A easy thing to start with is to add the stick group to sticks and jungle sticks.
20:07 Prestotron552 Jungle Sticks? What do you mean?
20:07 sfan5 Calinou: "[...] music for Crevis [...] soundtracks from MLP... (hehe)" ~http://www.crevis.net/news.html
20:07 Prestotron552 I could make it but give me more information on how it should work
20:08 Prestotron552 Crevis sucked really bad.
20:08 Calinou it was unprofessional
20:08 Prestotron552 It's almost the same as Minetest. Therefore I quit.
20:08 Prestotron552 Thats why I'm here to help Minetest.
20:08 Calinou "Crevis is freeware" <= is the engine modified?
20:08 ShadowNinja Prestotron552: Jungle sticks are what you get from jungle trees/wood.
20:08 Prestotron552 Oh are Jungle trees made yet?
20:08 Calinou if it isn't, then it's FOSS, not freeware :P
20:09 Prestotron552 ShadowNinja, are the trees made yet(jungle)
20:09 sfan5 "The release of Crevis 2.5 has been ca" {EOL} ~crevis.net
20:09 Calinou "Servers. Electroware has easy to create servers in the game's launcher. You do not need to go through lots of trouble setting up one." woah, that's not true at all
20:09 Prestotron552 Exactly.
20:09 Calinou in both cases you need to forward ports unless you're not behind a NAT :P
20:09 ShadowNinja They have existed for years, but they were re-enabled a fow months ago.
20:09 ShadowNinja few*
20:09 Prestotron552 Alec(Niften) won't let me edit the website, I have nothing to do with that.
20:10 Prestotron552 Ok how shall I make them? As a mod or just send you a link?
20:10 Prestotron552 I can can them done in a few hours.
20:10 ShadowNinja ?
20:10 Prestotron552 *I can get them done
20:10 Exio4 Calinou: it is freesoftware, always, unless the code got BSD-ed soonish
20:10 Calinou ShadowNinja: there are no jungle sticks in the default game, only in More Blocks
20:10 Calinou (to make jungle fences)
20:11 Prestotron552 Should I add it to the Modding section or just put it on mediafire and you give it to whoever puts updates up.
20:11 Prestotron552 I can do Jungle Fences.
20:11 ShadowNinja Oh, well it needs to be added to regular sticks.
20:11 ShadowNinja Have you added it to moreblocks?
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20:11 Jordach hi tablet user
20:11 VanessaE_[T] Yay..  it works :-)
20:11 Prestotron552 When shall I start?
20:11 [0gb_us] Yay!
20:11 Exio4 what irc client VanessaE_[T]?
20:12 Calinou there are jungle fences already
20:12 Exio4 i use andchat and yaaic
20:12 sfan5 VanessaE_[T]: you should do /nick VanessaT
20:12 Calinou please do yourself a favour, don't revent the wheel :P
20:12 Exio4 (and ssh/mosh, but they don't count)
20:12 Jordach * Received CTCP-VERSION answer from VanessaE_[T]: AndChat 1.4.3.2 http://www.andchat.net
20:12 Calinou what tablet do you have?
20:12 Exio4 andchat is k, but it is crashy
20:12 Calinou and proprietary
20:12 Exio4 yaaic is opensource
20:12 Exio4 :D
20:12 VanessaE it's a Xelio, 1001A or some such
20:12 Prestotron552 brb
20:12 Jordach > Xelio 1001A
20:12 Jordach seems legit
20:12 ShadowNinja And very slow at connecting to BNCs.
20:13 * [0gb_us] shutters, and rearranges the version number: 1.2.3.4
20:13 Jordach shudders*
20:13 VanessaE cheap but functional and large (10.1")
20:13 * Calinou prefers 10"
20:13 Exio4 ShadowNinja: i don't use bouncers
20:13 * Jordach giggles at inch sizes
20:13 Exio4 i think they suck when using an android, seriously
20:13 Prestotron552 Ok ShadowNinja, will I be on ohlol contributors if I add this?
20:13 ShadowNinja I use my quassel core. It works quite well.
20:14 Exio4 loads of backlog in a shitty display + lots of wasted bandwidth
20:14 ShadowNinja Prestotron552: No, that is for the engine(I beleive)
20:14 Exio4 (that is why i use ssh... :P)
20:14 Exio4 and minetest_game
20:14 sfan5 Prestotron552: if your commit gets commited to the repository ohloh will put you on the list
20:14 Prestotron552 Oh ok. So who adds this? celeron55?
20:15 Exio4 core devs
20:15 ShadowNinja ohloh tracks both minetest and minetest_game?
20:15 Exio4 both need to agree unless it is trivia
20:15 Exio4 ShadowNinja: afaik
20:15 sfan5 ShadowNinja: yep
20:15 Prestotron552 Because celeron55 said he doesn't decide anything. Why is that?
20:15 ShadowNinja Prestotron552: /join #minetest-dev Look at voiced users.
20:15 sfan5 he works on other stuff
20:15 Prestotron552 Like other games?
20:15 sfan5 yes
20:16 Prestotron552 He has no part in Minetest anymore?
20:16 Exio4 and real life work :P
20:16 Prestotron552 Obviously.
20:16 Exio4 Prestotron552: he is a core dev and sometimes does stuff
20:16 Calinou he doesn't work much on Minetest anymore, but the game is far from dead.
20:16 Calinou it's probably more active now :)
20:16 Exio4 but he is mainly busy with other stuff
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20:17 Prestotron552 Oh I see. I emailed him asking if I could help soo.. And wait, is is possible for me AT ALL to talk in #minetest-dev
20:17 Prestotron552 I'm very eager to join the Minetest Developers(core or not)
20:17 sfan5 Prestotron552: unless you get a real irc client, no
20:17 [0gb_us] If you don't use the web chat, yes.
20:17 [0gb_us] I type too slowly, as always ...
20:17 Calinou you don't need to ask him
20:18 Prestotron552 Do you know any IRC clients in which I could talk to Core Developers?
20:18 Calinou to join the Minetest developers, you should know programming languages (C++/Lua or sometimes something else), or art
20:18 * [0gb_us] recommends XChat
20:18 Calinou XChat/HexChat are good
20:18 Prestotron552 Is Minetest like Anonymous(joining wise), just join?
20:18 Calinou http://hexchat.github.io
20:18 Prestotron552 Ok I will install HexChat then
20:18 Calinou you basically make a pull request, if it's accepted then you're considered as a contributor
20:18 Calinou Prestotron552: if you're on 64 bit windows, get x64 HexChat, not x86
20:19 Prestotron552 I'm on 32 for my laptop. I'm building my new PC though.
20:19 VanessaE_[T] there.  ok, this works, back to the pc now
20:19 Prestotron552 I got HexChat test build x86
20:19 Prestotron552 Ok got the main Jungle Stick texture done.
20:20 Calinou I already have one
20:20 [0gb_us] I'm thinking about filling out offers for a new computer. I can't afford one strait up, and I hear the offer laptops are legit. You spend, like, $20 USD on offers, then get a computer.
20:20 Prestotron552 Oh you do? I thought itwas just my job. Lol can I use my texture or should I use yours @ Calinou
20:20 Calinou if you don't need mobility, build a desktop
20:21 Exio4 they are cheaper
20:21 Exio4 :D
20:21 Calinou you can use mine, yes
20:21 [0gb_us] I don't know how to tell which offer computers will be compatible with the OS though, so I'll have to research a bit.
20:21 Prestotron552 Ok do you have a download link?
20:21 Calinou for laptops, I'd suggest a brand that sells laptops without OS
20:21 Calinou eg. Clevo does that
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20:21 Calinou Prestotron552: https://github.com/Calinou/moreblocks
20:21 Exio4 [0gb_us]: if you really need a cheap-system, buy an APU
20:22 [0gb_us] !g APU
20:22 MinetestBot [0gb_us]: http://www.apu.edu/
20:22 Prestotron552 Ok wait, does moreblocks have Jungle Sticks in it? If so, why not just use that.
20:22 Exio4 AMD APU :P
20:22 Calinou accelerated processing unit
20:22 Calinou Prestotron552: it does since december 2011 :P
20:22 ruskie I'd wait for the APUs a bit
20:22 [0gb_us] !g AMD APU
20:22 MinetestBot [0gb_us]: http://fusion.amd.com/
20:22 Exio4 for the steamrollers ruskie?
20:23 ruskie since the new one is coming out end of the year with unified mem access
20:23 Exio4 yep
20:23 Calinou kabini is planned for early 2014
20:23 * Calinou smells high prices at launch already
20:23 ruskie still want to get an opteron x mini-atx/itx board for his server
20:23 Calinou generally you should wait before buying
20:23 Calinou better drivers, better prices
20:23 Prestotron552 I'm confused. AfterNet, all these channels for freenode on HexChat. How do I just search?
20:23 ruskie Calinou, can't say the prices changed all that much
20:24 Calinou you type "free" and it should select freenode
20:24 Calinou ruskie: that is mostly true for graphics cards
20:24 ruskie the matx boards I have with the e350 are still 130 or so today as they were on release
20:24 Calinou but the driver stuff applies to the APUs too
20:24 Calinou e350 lol
20:24 ruskie I have 3 machine with e350
20:24 Prestotron552 I'm on freenode
20:24 ruskie desktop, server and the media box
20:25 Prestotron552 Ok good, I'm in #minetest-dev
20:25 ruskie my firewall is an atom(simply because that's what was available for a low power system at the time)
20:25 * Calinou prefers ATX and non-soldered CPUs
20:26 * Exio4 highfives ruskie with four steamroller modules
20:26 ruskie APUs so far tended to be onboard
20:26 ruskie and frankly as I don't have any addon cards in the desktop don't much care for the full form factors
20:26 Prestotron552 If moreblocks has Jungle Sticks why not just take the mod?
20:27 ruskie the server though I do want some expansion
20:27 Prestotron552 Ok I'm maing a github I guess.
20:27 Calinou hardware firewall, lol
20:27 ruskie openbsd with pf
20:27 ruskie just a separate box for it
20:27 Prestotron552 Nice.
20:28 ruskie still have my phenom II X-3 board and cpu if I really want to setup something to gobble some more power
20:28 ruskie but low power/decent performance is what I'm aiming for
20:30 Prestotron552 Gotta go, well just working on things for Minetest. I'll stay on if I need help see ya.
20:30 ruskie I have a PS3 for playing the other game
20:30 ruskie s
20:30 ruskie currently ffxiv:arr is sucking most of my free time
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20:39 ruskie no laptops here
20:39 ruskie my mobile computing stuff is a N900 and a galaxy tab 2 10.1
20:40 ruskie so proper linux I can do work on and a toy to look at web sites easily and watch videos etc...
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20:40 ruskie john_minetest, well N900 has an xterm, ssh, etc... ;)
20:41 ruskie and yeah do have kbox terminal on the android as well
20:41 ruskie but the N900 has a physical keyboard
20:41 ruskie so it makes it easy to use
20:41 ruskie anyway off to bed
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20:47 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
20:48 Mossmanikin Hi
20:51 STHGOM hi
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20:55 VanessaE evening PA.
20:55 VanessaE (you're in a bit late)
20:55 PilzAdam yea, was visiting my Grandma
20:56 Peacock cant visit mine lol can't keep a straight face ever since she got one of those mexican permanent (tattoed) makeup lol
21:00 STHGOM okkkk.......
21:01 Peacock ever seen one?
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21:02 Peacock then you know it looks really bad lol
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21:08 proller Prestotron562, first day in internet?
21:08 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:09 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:10 proller looks like
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21:12 proller you 12 years old?
21:12 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:13 proller looks like it
21:13 Prestotron562 [deleted]
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21:16 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:16 proller and stop spam github
21:18 Mossmanikin Yeah, first rule actually: don't take anything personal
21:18 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:19 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:19 Mossmanikin :D
21:20 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:20 Exio4 hi PilzAdam
21:20 Exio4 i think someone is talking about you
21:21 PilzAdam hm?
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21:21 snesker muh blocks
21:21 Exio4 [18:19:19] <john_minetest> I know a guy who takes everything personal. He is channel op and he bans somebody every few minutes xD.
21:21 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:21 Exio4 >:D
21:22 Prestotron562 [deleted]
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21:22 Exio4 lol
21:22 Exio4 Prestotron562: you won't
21:22 snesker is there a disconnect message when downloading media?
21:22 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:23 snesker Well, whatever's downloaded when connecting to someone's server.
21:23 PilzAdam Prestotron562, protip: "XD" makes you look like a kid
21:23 Exio4 xD
21:23 PilzAdam its mostly used by kids on youtube
21:24 Exio4 PilzAdam: sure? xD
21:24 Exio4 XD i don't think so
21:24 snesker xd
21:24 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:24 Exio4 haha xd
21:24 Exio4 xdddddd (?)
21:24 Exio4 well, k, it sucks
21:24 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:24 Exio4 it gets.. weird
21:24 Exio4 Prestotron562: no why
21:24 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:24 snesker >kid
21:25 snesker and no, Im just connecting to this thing: http://landrush.bremaweb.com/
21:25 Exio4 i use :) when i'm going to take his body out and burn it
21:25 Exio4 like
21:25 Exio4 john_minetest: you should read more about X :)
21:25 Exio4 seriously ;)
21:25 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:25 Exio4 you'll get bored of it in 2 months
21:26 Exio4 btw, what is your age?
21:26 Exio4 15?
21:26 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:26 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:26 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:26 Exio4 yes
21:26 Mossmanikin Yes, excessive use of smileys makes you look like a kid, that's why I use 'em, I try to stay young :D
21:26 Exio4 haha
21:26 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:26 Exio4 hello peter pan
21:26 snesker The process of downloading media when connecting to a server - I'm asking if the client displays a message when you become disconnected from the server you're downloading from.
21:26 Mossmanikin ^^
21:27 Exio4 Prestotron562: 16 or 17 then
21:27 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:27 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:27 PilzAdam Prestotron562, your actual physical age doesnt really matter
21:27 Exio4 i was trying to identify the "since 14"
21:27 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:27 Exio4 if he is 15 it isn't the same as he is 20
21:27 PilzAdam the "mental age" is way more important
21:27 snesker He could be 25. I know 'xD' to be at least that old.
21:27 Exio4 PilzAdam: that is bullshit
21:28 Exio4 err
21:28 Exio4 Prestotron562: *
21:28 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:28 Exio4 used tab and failed
21:28 Exio4 (read: tabfail)
21:28 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:28 snesker That's problematic. I think it should.
21:28 PilzAdam Prestotron562, you seem very immature to me, judging from what I read in IRC
21:28 Exio4 i got you use windows vista on 1.6ghz computer
21:28 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:29 Exio4 16 and some months
21:29 Exio4 tell us your birthday now >:)
21:29 snesker Are there any real practical reasons to use vista?
21:29 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:29 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:29 Exio4 !seen kaeza
21:29 MinetestBot Exio4: kaeza was last seen at 2013-09-03 04:49:17 UTC on #minetest
21:30 Exio4 like internet explorer to download firefox?
21:31 PilzAdam Exio4, try writing to Microsoft to make the FF download page the default page for IE, since thats the #1 usecase for it
21:31 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:31 Exio4 ie doesn't crashes
21:32 Exio4 it tells you that YOU THINK it crashed but it just refreshes the page!
21:34 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:35 Exio4 blame google
21:35 Exio4 and don't use chrome
21:35 VanessaE bbl
21:35 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:36 Exio4 Prestotron562: read minetest.conf.example
21:36 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:36 Exio4 if you made the correct answer you shouldn't need to clarify you googled
21:36 Exio4 MF doesn't sounds like a nice word
21:36 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:36 * Exio4 uses FFx
21:37 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:37 Exio4 (MF alone sounds like motherfucker more than mozilla firefox ;P)
21:37 Mossmanikin Exio4: :D
21:37 PilzAdam Prestotron562, what is your name in the forums?
21:37 Exio4 you are free to whatever you want lol
21:37 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:38 PilzAdam you are not "Electroware"?
21:38 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:38 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:38 PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=109187#p109187
21:38 Prestotron562 [deleted]
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21:39 Exio4 you don't look trustworthy
21:39 Prestotron562 [deleted]
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21:41 Exio4 it is german
21:41 Exio4 try to say it in half second and you got its correct pronunciation
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21:42 PilzAdam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gol3yhPYm-8&amp;feature=youtu.be&amp;t=20s
21:42 PilzAdam the first word
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21:43 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:43 PilzAdam john_minetest, the one in the video is outdated
21:43 Prestotron562 [deleted]
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21:43 PilzAdam no
21:44 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:44 STHGOM today is bacon appreciation day!!! :D
21:44 STHGOM I think..
21:44 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:45 PilzAdam Prestotron562, wtf is this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/840#issuecomment-23901625 ?
21:45 PilzAdam can I delete that "seems weird" comment?
21:45 Prestotron562 [deleted]
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21:46 STHGOM the sandwich of the day should be BLT, not Shawarma :D
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21:51 STHGOM bye bye
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22:07 proller PilzAdam, better to delete weird "range" feature
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22:13 Maple__ NOT SILENT.
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22:16 Peacock +1 proller's idea, ever since range, ive gotten weird air pockets in oceans that dont go away
22:17 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:18 Maple__ Er, sort of.
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22:18 Maple__ 37 channels. \o
22:18 snesker How do you scroll up chat messages?
22:19 proller Prestotron562, irc is designed for silence, respect it
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22:34 Peacock poppycock, try plugging a car battery to your PSU
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22:55 Mossmanikin Can a topic in the forum be shared by two users? By that I mean: is it possible to give a certain user (no moderator) the right to edit the first post of a topic?
22:56 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:58 proller Prestotron562, use -next build
22:59 Prestotron562 [deleted]
23:00 proller its awesome
23:00 Prestotron562 [deleted]
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23:06 khonkhortisan Does lava only burn things it touches (or fire touches from burning something else)?
23:11 khonkhortisan looks like it dos.
23:11 khonkhortisan does.
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23:19 proller khonkhortisan, please rebase diagonal_rail
23:22 jojoa1997 would it be illegal to make a version of this mod since it is GNU? http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1540010-equivalent-exchange-3-pre1h/
23:32 Mossmanikin jojoa1997: the idea isn't licensed, just the code and media
23:32 jojoa1997 ok
23:34 jojoa1997 so if there is a mod in minecraft i dont have to get permission to make it ass long as i dont use their code
23:34 jojoa1997 oops *as
23:35 Mossmanikin jojoa1997: as long as you don't use code/textures/sound
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23:36 Mossmanikin Don't know about "fair use" though
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23:43 Miner_48er any mod for displaying server rules with an accept button?
23:45 ShadowNinja Miner_48er: The King Arthur server did something like that with kaeza's wiki mod.
23:46 Mossmanikin PilzAdam : I asked while you were gone: Can a topic in the forum be shared by two users? By that I mean: is it possible to give a certain user (no moderator) the right to edit the first post of a topic?
23:47 PilzAdam no
23:47 Mossmanikin Ok, thanks

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