Time Nick Message 00:05 Yepoleb which terrain generation algorithm does minetest use? 00:36 ntg255 A lo? 00:36 PilzAdam hi 00:37 ntg255 :) Hi 00:39 jojoa1997 Hello! 00:40 ntg255 :) So nice weather today. 01:42 PilzAdam bye 01:46 xiong Hi, I've been playing for quite some time but I don't know everything. Is there a block that obeys gravity but can be altered in situ to one that does not? 01:47 xiong I'll consider those from mods. 01:48 Mossmanikin Hi folks 02:00 VanessaE hi 02:01 VanessaE xiong: sand and gravel obey gravity - you can "alter" them like any other, by replacing them with something that does not fall e.g. with minetest.set_node() 02:17 xiong Ah, VanessaE, not really what I wanted. Let me explain, if you'll indulge me. 02:18 VanessaE sure, go ahead 02:18 xiong I've been working hard for many weeks on lava lakes, trying to develop engineering techniques. I'm afraid I got into a rut with water quench; that's a dead end, really. 02:19 xiong The black rock is too hard to get out and has really little value. I sold some to a paranoid guy who wanted to build a stronghold but mostly, it's only good for black glass and it foams up at 9:1 so you only need so much. 02:19 VanessaE black == obsidian btw 02:19 xiong So lately I've been trying methods that depend on sand. 02:20 xiong I can spell 'obsidian' if I try hard enough. I can spell 'black rock' every time. 02:20 VanessaE lol 02:20 VanessaE so basically you wanna be able to clear out lava by building into it with something that will, eventually, solidify? 02:21 xiong Well, let me tell you... I already moved beyond my question, much to my surprise. 02:22 VanessaE ok, so use (falling) sand as your fill material, and get this mod: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=108742 ..which will transform the sand into glass in time. 02:22 xiong So recently I've tried a "walking wall" of sand. Dump sand into one end until flush with the surface, repeat until the wall is about three blocks thick, then remove the "dry" side. This works fine but requires one to have about 8-12 stacks of sand on tap and demands a huge amount of shoveling. Essentially, one is trying to remove *all* the lava; when all that's needed is to isolate the bottom. 02:23 VanessaE right 02:23 xiong Oh, I got a fix. 02:23 VanessaE there's no really easy way except worldedit 02:23 xiong Let me back up and state goals clearly: 02:23 xiong (1) Obtain minerals from sides and bottom of lake. These tend to be quite rich. 02:23 xiong (2) Plug up "rotten bottoms" so that lower levels can be worked. 02:24 kahrl would bucketing it away work? 02:24 VanessaE hmm... 02:24 xiong These amount to the same general thing: Build a solid, false bottom above the one existing. 02:24 VanessaE I see what you're getting at 02:24 VanessaE that would he Hard. 02:24 VanessaE (with a capital H) 02:24 xiong kahrl, I tried that. But when you pull a bucket of lava source, the space fills with flowing lava. You need to get *all* the source. 02:25 VanessaE the mod I pointed you to will make sand solidify, that's about the only thing that could come close 02:25 xiong Might with a lava can from 'technic'. Still too much work. The longer I think about it, the more I want to leave as much lava in place as possible. Who knows? I might want to go back for black rock someday. 02:25 VanessaE lay two layers of sand in your target area, let it harden, then you can simply mine out the generated glass from the bottom layer 02:25 xiong Aha, told you I got it. 02:25 VanessaE ok 02:26 xiong The gimmick depends on abuse of the quarter-block. 02:26 VanessaE that works too 02:26 kahrl I have a mod called sandjoy that makes a flat layer of sand around the block you're pointing at :P 02:27 xiong This is widely available in many different mods. I'll test out microblocks too, but those require the particular 'circular saw' mod. 02:28 xiong Here's the strategy: Place the quarter-block panel and step into the half-space it leaves. Then screwdriver it around into where you are standing; this works. Now step forward half a block, which lets you see the inside face, now facing the lava; so you can place another panel *into* the next lava block. 02:29 xiong That's so blatantly unrealistic I never tried it until now, even though I've been working with lava and panels before. 02:30 xiong You can build the false bottom overhead by placing blocks on the upper surface of the panel. 02:30 VanessaE heh 02:30 xiong The bizarre thing about this is that you can walk right across the bottom of a lava lake this way, without any support from either side. I've done a lot of underlava work but mostly relied on torches. I used panels but didn't take them to the limit. 02:31 Exio4 http://dpaste.com/1366412/ 02:31 Exio4 wat. 02:31 Exio4 integer div slower than float/double div? 02:31 Exio4 can it be legit? 02:32 xiong This is typical of my previous underlava work: http://imgur.com/a/y1z0d#8 02:33 xiong I've relied on ladders and torches, with glass to fill so I can see what I'm doing. Now I'll see if I can get a decent shot of panel work. 02:34 xiong Ha ha, thanks for answering my question, VanessaE; I like it when I don't just ask a dumb question and get no answer. But this time, anyway, it was probably good that you delayed a little and forced me to think my way out. 02:34 VanessaE actually I was kinda preoccupied at that initial moment :-) 02:34 xiong Good luck is good. ;) 02:36 xiong Exio4, integer division is a fundamentally broken concept. That's mathematics, not computer. 02:37 xiong Formally, the set of integers is not closed under the operation of division. So the box has to work extra hard just to figure out what to do in the case of an invalid expression. 02:37 VanessaE which is weird because back in the 90's, we knew how to do 16+bit multiply and divide in a few dozen cycles, with the help of tables of squares 02:37 VanessaE (tables were only a few kB... a modern PC should be able to beat the pants off that method) 02:38 xiong Anyway, these days all boxes come with these nifty FPUs, so the work gets offloaded. Who knows, some compilers might be making the CPU do the integer "division". 02:38 xiong More hardware breeds crummy software. 02:38 VanessaE yep 02:39 kahrl if it's x86/emt64, they have integer div instructions 02:39 xiong If I were going to write a modern compiler, I'd take any demand for integer division and convert it to a float, send it out to the FPU, and figure out what to do with it when I got it back. Unless it was Some_int / 2, in which case, shift. 02:40 kahrl but they compute the remainder as well, which might be what is taking it so long 02:41 xiong See, there is no remainder. That's calculation of modulus, which is a distinct operation. I do not like devices that yield two outputs when I only want one. 02:42 xiong Let me see if I can get a good shot of panel work. 02:42 kahrl with elementary hardware algorithms to compute integer division the remainder is basically free 02:43 kahrl not sure what modern processors do 04:33 GNADev|zRokh hi 05:02 Inocudom The new coloration scheme of the grass and the dirt in VanessaE's HDX texture packs are an improvement. Might want to do the same to tree leaves and tree barks. 05:03 Inocudom The new textures for the farming and farming_plus plants are also improvements. 07:38 e1z0 hi 08:24 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Be Late For Something Day! :-D 08:30 kahrl ... like every other day? :D 08:55 JamesTait kahrl, except today you get to celebrate it! (Late enough?) 10:44 e1z0_ how can i implement welcome banner/motd in server ? 10:54 otak I'm guessing open minetest.conf file and add the line motd = 11:08 Exio4 xiong: i would have said it was faster as my cpu 'is told' to not have a super-fast FPU but super-fast ALUs :P 11:09 xiong Eh? What do I know? I didn't build it. 11:10 xiong I have not seen a development in microarchitecture I liked since 32-bit registers. 11:10 Exio4 amd fx, bulldozer 6100 11:11 xiong I don't even like the one-chip CPU model. I think it's a mistake to pile everything on to one chip with 400 pins. 11:11 xiong I take it back: I like FPUs and GPUs. They should do more like that. 11:11 xiong However, quad-core is just stupid. 11:12 Exio4 why? 11:12 xiong Anyway, what do I know? I'm not an engineer anymore, I'm a derelict. 11:14 xiong In my prime I wrote 2.5 Kb of machine code in 8085 assembler for a man who said I could have up to 4; I said I'd leave some room for future expansion. Turns out he reserved space on the board for a second EEPROM in case I went over. I never forgave him. 11:15 xiong That same guy tried to push me into polled I/O and we fought a knock-down, drag-out fight all over the lab. I got interrupts. 11:17 xiong That same guy tried to sell me a board with four -- yeah, four -- soft buttons; for an industrial controller. I said, it's a machine in a factory, there must be one red stop button that always stops it. We fought. I said and a green button that starts it. We fought. I said and a white button to one side, I'll use it as a Shift key, get 13 buttons for the price of 7. We fought. 11:17 xiong He agreed to all 7 buttons eventually... then ordered them all in black. I'll never forgive him. 11:19 xiong The irony being, on that contract I was tasked as the software jock and he was the hardware dog. I ended up doing more of the hardware than he did. 11:20 xiong There, that's your bedtime story. Kiss Daddy night-night and sleep happy dreams of peppermint-colored IC's jumping over the rainbow cable. 12:34 sfan5 hi everyone 12:42 harrison http://youtu.be/ShSlAFKebTs 13:00 KikaRz ohai 13:20 Jordach afternoon, morning and evening 13:23 Exio4 night Jordach 13:23 Exio4 >:) 13:31 Jordach while PilzAdam is away 13:37 NekoGloop the cats will play! 13:40 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8REH76quG0 /me likes this a lot 13:41 * Jordach calls bullshit on the weather 13:44 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/BQcL6JQ.jpg 13:44 Jordach i also blurred WIP render stuff ;) 13:45 Calinou no, it's your porn folder 13:45 Calinou j/k :p 13:46 Jordach haha 13:46 Jordach fun fact: i converted that folder into a AES-256 encrypted hidden partition 13:49 Jordach Calinou, Contains: 45,246 Files, 1,410 Folders 13:49 Calinou definitely a porn folder then 13:50 Jordach Calinou, true crypt is your friend 13:52 Jordach john_minetest, that's a 4000x4000px image of a grass node 13:54 Jordach strange: a game i'm playing with the come back daily reward has something interesting; there is a light/dark alternating pattern, you only earn the prize on the light ones, (dark ones are near impossible) 13:56 * Calinou is playing http://orteil.dashnet.org/cookieclicker/ 14:01 NekoGloop "playing" 14:19 sfan5 Jordach: why did you blur out the name of vlc files? 14:19 Jordach sfan5, render stuff 14:20 sfan5 >vlc files >render stuff 14:20 Calinou Minetest rule 34 renders 14:20 sfan5 you sure? 14:20 sfan5 haha 14:22 Jordach sfan5, i render in .ogg with a video track 14:22 sfan5 ah ok 14:22 Jordach (not to mention clementine does not play every media file, vlc does that) 14:24 sfan5 what I just did: *me browsing reddit* ..I'm bored, lets see whats new on reddit *derp* 14:25 Jordach bunch or random files with .mp3 and .ogg: http://i.imgur.com/1PcQB7V.png 14:28 * Jordach has an idea 14:28 Jordach it can wait for a few months 14:40 Jordach > distro_hopper 14:40 Jordach seems legit 14:42 Jordach $5 that PilzAdam is at college or Uni 14:44 * Jordach heads back into LibreOffice to practice written English 14:45 Jordach 4.x series ftw 14:46 Jordach i should've gone, but my transport failed to arrive 14:48 thexyz > vlc 14:48 thexyz > windows 14:49 Jordach thexyz, i use it mainly for audio usage. and youtube conversions 14:49 thexyz > winrar 14:50 Jordach thexyz, DILLIGAF 14:55 thexyz Jordach: do you not enjoy the freedom? 14:55 Jordach thexyz, i enjoy freedom. but that freedom is limited by the license. which is not true freedom 14:56 Jordach doing as i please (installing non free, etc) is my freedom 14:56 thexyz Jordach: oh, so you're knowingly limiting your freedom and think that this (limiting your freedom) *is* your freedom 14:57 thexyz I see a nice job done by Big Corps 14:57 Jordach thexyz, freedom of choice > license freedom 14:57 thexyz ha, ha 14:57 thexyz you don't have "freedom of choice" 14:58 Jordach there are several generic pieces of software: word processing, graphics, etc 14:58 Jordach and they all do their job 14:59 Jordach and end users don't give a single fuck about freedom, just as long as the software WORKS. 14:59 thexyz yeah, and that's pretty bad 15:00 Jordach not really. 15:00 thexyz I see a good job done 15:00 Jordach you keep thinking the end user knows exactly how license freedom works 15:00 thexyz I'm talking about licenses 15:00 thexyz I'm talking about what I'm allowed to do with the software I use 15:00 thexyz in free world I can freely modify it to suit my needs 15:01 thexyz in any closed ecosystem (Microsoft's, Apple's, Google's) I have no idea what software *does* 15:01 Jordach the user doesn't care for that 15:02 thexyz moreover, because of such ignorant users I now have to spend fuckton of time removing fucking DRM from fucking ebook 15:02 thexyz Jordach: I was asking you, actually 15:03 Jordach thexyz, generic needs are programmed for, special needs are not. 15:03 Jordach and that is a primary reason why linux isn't mainstream 15:03 thexyz Jordach: you are either not following or are trying to 15:03 thexyz but that's pretty clear 15:04 thexyz you think it's normal 15:04 thexyz I think it's not 15:19 distro_hopper too legit to quit ;) 15:24 Zeg9 Hi 15:24 Zeg9 Is the Off-Topic section gone? 15:25 Zeg9 ^forget that. But why does it require to login to see it ? :P 15:25 Jordach yep 15:25 Jordach quassel just errors when attempting to get a page overview 15:26 thexyz Zeg9: because it's worse than /b/ 15:26 thexyz (I think; I've never visited /b/) 15:26 Jordach thexyz, then it's a good idea to visit /b/ then 15:27 thexyz it's never a good idea 15:27 thexyz I have enough bullshit in boards I visit 15:27 Jordach and the occaisional good bit of porn too 15:28 thexyz I only visit SFW boards 15:28 Jordach oh 15:28 Jordach ...u jelly? 15:29 thexyz it seems it causes severe brain damage 15:35 sfan5 heh 15:44 Jordach wat https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=109140#p109140 15:45 Jordach oh god: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=109137#p109137 15:45 Jordach necroposting: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=109141#p109141 15:53 Jordach huh, google chrome bug spotted 15:54 Jordach using the drag on the tbar icon upward, the menu for new incognito window spawns a normal one 15:54 Jordach only if chrome isn't open 16:04 DanDuncombe Help? Debug gives the error: expected after 'local' The line in question is this: local frompos = { x = pos.x, y = pos.y, z = pos.z } 16:10 DanDuncombe Anyone? 16:13 DanDuncombe Help? 16:17 DanDuncombe Helloooo? 16:20 DanDuncombe Anyone able to help? 16:20 thexyz hello, this line is correct 16:20 DanDuncombe IDK why it wouldn't work 16:26 DanDuncombe Hellooooo? 16:26 STHGOM hellooooo 16:26 DanDuncombe Are you good at modding? 16:27 STHGOM me? 16:27 DanDuncombe Yes 16:27 Zeg9 Hey Dan, sparky 16:27 STHGOM what do you need? 16:27 STHGOM hi Zeg 16:27 DanDuncombe Oh, hi Zeg9. Basically this: Help? Debug gives the error: expected after 'local' The line in question is this: local frompos = { x = pos.x, y = pos.y, z = pos.z } 16:28 Zeg9 can you paste a few lines that surround this? 16:28 Zeg9 (use pastebin or the like) 16:28 DanDuncombe I'llpaste the abm 16:29 DanDuncombe http://pastebin.com/5G4VnbAJ 16:29 hoodedice Mods? 16:30 hoodedice Is asking for torrents allowed? 16:30 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=109136#p109136 16:30 Jordach just ignore it 16:30 hoodedice And necrobumping ? 16:30 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=602 16:31 STHGOM_ hi 16:32 DanDuncombe So Zeg9, can you figure out the problem?? 16:32 hoodedice with? 16:32 DanDuncombe local frompos = { x = pos.x, y = pos.y, z = pos.z } 16:32 DanDuncombe Debug gives the error: expected after 'local' 16:32 thexyz hoodedice: I don't see any problems so long as torrents/links to them aren't posted on forum 16:32 Zeg9 remove the "local frompos, tonode," line 16:33 Zeg9 DanDuncombe, ↑ 16:33 hoodedice OK 16:33 DanDuncombe Ok 16:33 hoodedice But necrobumping? The topic is over 2 years old! 16:33 DanDuncombe But they are needed are they not? 16:33 Zeg9 Nop, you alreadt sat that they are local in the "local frompos = [...]" 16:34 Zeg9 you should add local near "tonode = minetest.get_node(...)" though 16:34 Zeg9 ... 16:34 DanDuncombe local frompos and local fromnode are different 16:34 Zeg9 line 24 and 25, add "local", and remove the line 6 16:34 thexyz hoodedice: dunno, well, shout at them if you want to 16:34 Zeg9 sorry, just read too fast ;) 16:35 hoodedice Well, I can't say anything, Dan's already pointed out that it's old. 16:35 hoodedice We'll shout when he/she bumps something else 16:35 hoodedice Where he/she = DigAmy 16:36 hoodedice Oh, Dan did not say that it's old. Shouting in progress. 16:37 DanDuncombe Thanks Zeg9! 16:38 hoodedice DanDucombe is your zombie texture competition thingy still open? How long for? 16:40 DanDuncombe IDK. Rhys has submitted a texture, it will of cousrse need tweaking to fit the zombie model. 16:41 hoodedice Jordach 16:42 hoodedice (Cheese salad? lol) 16:43 Jordach what 16:43 DanDuncombe Okay another problem 16:43 Jordach hoodedice, suggestions 16:43 Jordach !op 16:43 hoodedice What program do you use for making skins again? 16:43 hoodedice Shawarma !!! 16:44 hoodedice (Something that would prolly make people google it) 16:44 hoodedice (Yaaay !!!) 16:44 Jordach hoodedice, i use MC Skin 3D 16:44 hoodedice ok thanks 16:44 hoodedice A lot. 16:44 hoodedice =D 16:45 DanDuncombe Debug says that I tried to index 'transactor_transactions' in this lua file, which I didn't, also, aparently theres a problem with line 21. The chest.lua DOES exist. 16:47 DanDuncombe Can someone help this guy? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=109145#p109145 16:48 Calinou we can help him not triple-post 16:49 hoodedice Not again 16:49 DanDuncombe Also, never mind 'bout the mod 16:49 hoodedice -.- 16:49 * Jordach was going to merge posts 16:49 hoodedice K I'll post everything 16:49 * Calinou walks near Jordach and taunts with pistol 16:50 * Jordach attacks Calinou with the Dubstep Gun 16:50 Exio4 wubwubwub 16:50 Calinou Vinyl Scratch approves 16:50 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPdtzGWHR_w 16:52 Jordach anyone want a portal gun made in blender (minetest-y) 16:53 Exio4 http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/3219282/Wubwubwub/ 16:53 Exio4 \o/ 16:53 Jordach > funnyjunk 16:53 Jordach i'd rather browse 9gag 16:53 Jordach even then i'd prefer imgur 16:54 Exio4 https://www.google.com/search?q=wubwubwub 16:59 hoodedice Done. 16:59 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=109154#p109154 16:59 hoodedice (Oh, I got ninj'd) 17:04 Jordach ASHPD: http://i.imgur.com/kIcgR58.png 17:05 hoodedice *facepalm* https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=109156#p109156 17:05 hoodedice *Some people* 17:06 [0gb_us] Well, he does admit to being a madman. 17:07 [0gb_us] Wow, that's half his total posts right there. 17:07 hoodedice haha 17:07 hoodedice I invited him here. Get ready for fl000000000000000000000f 17:07 hoodedice *fl000000000000000000d 17:08 [0gb_us] If he doesn't know how to edit posts, will he know how to connect to IRC? 17:09 [0gb_us] Not to bag on him or anything, but realistically ... 17:10 hoodedice haha 17:10 hoodedice That true. 17:10 hoodedice And that's why schools should teach programming 17:12 [0gb_us] Programming, the importance of free (as in freedom, not price) software, IRC knowledge, version management software, ... 17:12 hoodedice indeed. 17:13 hoodedice Well, he's gone =) 17:13 [0gb_us] Oh, and how to use a forum. It shouldn't be that hard. 17:14 hoodedice Jordach 17:15 hoodedice -.- 17:15 [0gb_us] Yes, they should. I want to know how to encrypt emails and make GPG keys ... 17:15 thexyz schools should teach how to operate a PC 17:15 [0gb_us] A non-Windows PC. 17:15 hoodedice Ah Germany 17:15 thexyz a PC 17:15 hoodedice Ubuntu heaven 17:16 [0gb_us] Okay, good. 17:16 hoodedice And that's why PilzAdam uses kubuntu 17:16 hoodedice =) 17:17 [0gb_us] THat, and maybe because he doesn't want to deal with all the problems associated with only Windows. He's smart like that. 17:17 thexyz kids should know how to use PC, not how to use Facebook, Twitter, etc 17:17 hoodedice " kids should know how to use PC, not how to use Facebook, Twitter, etc" I love you. 17:17 sfan5 john_minetest: in our school we have ubuntu (fucking) 9.04 17:17 [0gb_us] Me too. 17:18 [0gb_us] (In response to sfan5.) 17:18 [0gb_us] (I mean hoodedice.) 17:18 [0gb_us] I wish they had Trisquel. 17:18 sfan5 hahahahaha 17:18 hoodedice Distro war in 3.... 2... 17:18 sfan5 epic fail http://i.imgur.com/acHfwdd.jpg 17:19 sfan5 blanking out a local network IP 17:19 thexyz https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=109133#p109133 17:19 hoodedice Linux = UWTFYL 17:19 [0gb_us] WHat is "UWTFYL"? 17:20 hoodedice Use What The Fish You Like 17:20 hoodedice Where Fish is any four letter word that starts with F 17:20 sfan5 Use What The Face You Like 17:21 [0gb_us] I mostly feel that way. 17:21 hoodedice (DId someone say Alicia Keys is hot?) 17:21 hoodedice lol 17:21 hoodedice @ thexyz 17:21 STHGOM Use What The muck You Like 17:21 STHGOM that just sounds weired 17:23 Jordach sfan5, MC:PE 17:24 STHGOM i just made a program with fstream :D 17:24 [0gb_us] Another company is trying to get me to share their stuff on Facebook/Twitter .... For a chance to win a vespa. I don'r even know what a vespa is. 17:24 sfan5 !g vespa 17:24 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.vespausa.com/ 17:25 sfan5 yep, italy 17:25 hoodedice Vespa... 17:25 STHGOM when did the sandwich of the day change? 17:25 hoodedice Right... 17:25 hoodedice STHGOM : About 15 minuts ago 17:25 hoodedice Vespa. Sucks. 17:26 * Jordach has rode a vespa 17:26 hoodedice People in my place ride it like it's a Ducati orr something 17:27 [0gb_us] I wouldn't win if I did what they want anyway. So why should I give them what they want? I'm not messing up my Twitter account for a "chance" at something, and I'm not signing up for an account with Facebook, which demands my cell phone number (by the way, I have no cell phone). 17:27 hoodedice Nah, With that attitude 17:27 DanDuncombe Is there any way to make an abm faster than 1 second? 17:27 hoodedice Jordach ! 17:28 hoodedice In this mcskin3d thingy 17:28 hoodedice lol @ john 17:28 hoodedice Do I need to import some sort of minetest mesh? 17:28 Jordach hoodedice, what 17:28 Jordach hoodedice, you just create a new skin, and it's in human form by default 17:29 hoodedice Works with MT? 17:29 Jordach hoodedice, yes 17:29 Jordach that's how i made sam II 17:29 hoodedice O.K. 17:29 DanDuncombe As far as I can tell john_minetest, the answer is no, I just wanted to check 17:29 hoodedice Indeed, we did ripoff MC 17:29 hoodedice (A few things, not everything) 17:31 [0gb_us] Who is Sam? 17:31 Jordach the default minetest player name 17:31 hoodedice It's actually Sam II 17:31 hoodedice II.V 17:31 [0gb_us] I see. I remember back when it was just a nameless skin. 17:31 hoodedice XI IX 17:32 hoodedice *LX IX 17:37 sfan5 lawl http://www.change.org/petitions/discontinue-internet-explorer 17:39 STHGOM hi 17:39 Jordach sfan5, signed it 17:39 [0gb_us] It's not holding the Internet back any more than WIndows holds the rest of the tech world back. 17:39 [0gb_us] And they are not going to discontinue Windows. 17:40 NekoGloop 17:40 Peacock ooo, an os-war, i always have great timing for joining a channel lol 17:41 STHGOM :D 17:41 [0gb_us] I think it stems from not having anything better to talk about here most of the time. 17:41 NekoGloop because minetest is just as boring 17:41 [0gb_us] Who even plays Minetest anymore? 17:41 Peacock well its my experience that people always find something to bicker over lol 17:41 hoodedice " I think it stems from not having anything better to talk about here most of the time. " 17:42 hoodedice +1 17:42 hoodedice "Who even plays Minetest anymore?" I still play 17:42 Peacock especially geeks 17:42 [0gb_us] That was a joke. I play a little between homework sessions. 17:43 Peacock users play alot, modders play a little, the devs, not sure lol 17:43 [0gb_us] Though I can't get the game to run well on Trisquel. Then again, I can't get Trisquel to run well on my system, so it could be that. 17:43 DanDuncombe I am a modder and I play a lot 17:43 hoodedice Look at this http://www.change.org/users/13331498 17:43 hoodedice lol 17:44 Peacock with trisquel you get to enjoy libreness but not much else :p 17:44 hoodedice I am a wannabe modder and I play a lot !!! 17:44 Peacock totally free to suck lol 17:44 [0gb_us] I get the feeling most of the devs gave up on playing the game. I know Celeron did, and I think Adam did. (I'm not using full names to avoid alerting them.) 17:45 hoodedice Shall I? Be a D and alert them? 17:45 [0gb_us] Are they even on? They're not on. That was for nothing. 17:46 DanDuncombe What about sfan? 17:46 [0gb_us] I don't know sfan's habits as well, so I'm not sure. 17:46 Jordach sfan5 afaik plays often 17:47 * sfan5 often plays 17:47 Jordach minetest 17:47 DanDuncombe With Minetest 17:48 hoodedice Minetest [0.4.7 Beta] (TM) (R) (GPL - See terms and conditions. We are not liable for any atomic explosions due to sheer awesomeness) 17:49 STHGOM LOL 17:49 [0gb_us] Minetest is a registered trademark now? I have a hard time believing that. The rest sounds like something one of the site maintainers would write. 17:50 hoodedice Dude. Joke. 17:50 hoodedice Jordach 17:51 hoodedice MCSkin3D - Mirroring on the mesh is annoying me. 17:51 * Jordach doesnt have that 17:51 hoodedice ? 17:51 DanDuncombe Do you mean right arm mirrors left arm 17:51 Jordach i'm using one of the 1.4.x 17:51 hoodedice I paint on the left arm, it copies over onto the right 17:51 hoodedice ya 17:51 Jordach hoodedice, mc does that as well as minetest 17:51 DanDuncombe Because that is how the Minecraft player model is textured 17:51 [0gb_us] Yeah ... that's a bug in the skin format, not the editor. 17:52 hoodedice So I can paint left and right seperately? 17:52 hoodedice Crap. 17:52 hoodedice *can't 17:52 [0gb_us] The arms and legs cannot be painted seperatly due to that issue. 17:52 [0gb_us] I ran into the same problem when I tried to build a skin. 17:53 Jordach I GOT A PORTAL GUN! I GOT A PORTAL GUN! http://i.imgur.com/Uf33hI1.png 17:53 hoodedice Why can't WE have a workaround? *sigh* 17:53 NekoGloop may I add that that looks nothing like a portal gun 17:53 Jordach NekoGloop, blocky 17:53 [0gb_us] Shoot those portals! DIE, PORTALS. 17:55 [0gb_us] We need to fix the skin format. But due to people wanting compatibility with Minecraft, it is doubtful that we'll make the necessary changes. Minecraft is holding us back. 17:55 NekoGloop fuck compatibility 17:55 [0gb_us] Exactly. 17:55 NekoGloop why not remove compatibility with windows, windows is holding you back :P 17:55 [0gb_us] SOunds good. 17:55 * Jordach waits for every player who uses custom skins on servers when the format changes 17:56 Jordach INCOMING SHITSTORM! 18:01 rubenwardy Hi all 18:01 [0gb_us] Hello! 18:02 e1z0 why minetest does not load utf8 encoded lua scripts ? 18:03 [0gb_us] It doesn't? That's odd. I though my scripts were in that format. 18:03 [0gb_us] *thought 18:03 rubenwardy Just finishing off Food Mod 2.0 18:03 rubenwardy It has support for multiple mods AT THE SAME TIME! 18:04 NekoGloop IMPOSSIBRU 18:04 Jordach rubenwardy, http://i.imgur.com/Uf33hI1.png 18:04 e1z0 i'm in trouble, hmm, can't translate it in another language 18:04 e1z0 got stuck in that utf thing 18:04 Jordach john_minetest, 'tis a portal device 18:05 rubenwardy Well I have done the impossible! 18:05 e1z0 ERROR[main]: GUIEngine: unable to load builtin menu 18:05 e1z0 :-( 18:11 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnCw1zXtaLs 18:12 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/food/tree/ActualVersion2 18:13 rubenwardy To do: drinks and soups 18:15 Calinou sorting would be useful, yeah 18:15 Calinou but not that much 18:17 Calinou or ping 18:19 [0gb_us] THe server list shows servers with fast? 18:19 [0gb_us] I'm not seeing it. 18:19 Calinou no, it doesn't 18:20 [0gb_us] How do you set up a blacklist or whitelist in Minetest? Is that even possible by default? 18:21 [0gb_us] If it isn't a buil-in option, it's not going to show up on that list. 18:22 [0gb_us] I agree from a non-technical standpoint, but disagree from a technical standpoint. 18:22 e1z0 how to disable debug window ? 18:23 e1z0 or compile without debug ? 18:23 [0gb_us] Do you mean the Terminal? 18:24 [0gb_us] Start Minetest without the command line and you get no debug info showing. 18:25 sfan5 [0gb_us]: windows always opens a window for minetest 18:26 rubenwardy unless you compile with no console param flag 18:26 [0gb_us] Ah, I was blissfully unaware. 18:26 rubenwardy #pragma comment(linker, "/subsystem:windows /ENTRY:mainCRTStartup") 18:27 rubenwardy Put that in a cpp and compile 18:29 Jordach preferably main.cpp 18:30 rubenwardy yeah 18:31 Jordach rubenwardy, about 40 mins ago it was raining and thundering, did you get any? 18:31 rubenwardy no 18:31 Jordach also: cup of tea time 18:31 rubenwardy The sky is VERY dark 18:31 Jordach was in norfolk 18:31 rubenwardy It was drisling 18:32 rubenwardy PM, Jordach 18:32 Calinou "drisling" isn't a valid word here 18:32 rubenwardy It is 7pm for me, and it is still light from sun 18:32 rubenwardy I just had 30 second lag! 18:36 [0gb_us] Tea time? Okay. http://www.negativeworld.org/images/articles/henryhatsworth6.jpg 18:37 [0gb_us] Tea Time always makes me think of Henry Hatsworth. 18:37 * rubenwardy loves cream tea 18:37 * john_minetest loves red tea. 18:37 * Calinou loves no tea 18:38 * rubenwardy loves waffles 18:38 * [0gb_us] loves whatever tea his sponsors are paying him to love 18:38 Jordach hahahahahahaha plol 18:39 * rubenwardy puts a cat on MinetestBot's head 18:39 * NekoGloop loves kittens :3 18:39 [0gb_us] Kittens .... I'm sure I have a cute picture of one here somewhere .... 18:39 * john_minetest puts a black-white kitten on NekoGloop's head. 18:39 rubenwardy ........................................................................................# 18:39 NekoGloop kuroshironeko~ 18:40 [0gb_us] http://forgifs.com/gallery/v/Kitten-kiss-wakes-dad.gif.html 18:41 * Jordach has a dirty joke again 18:41 * Jordach read lesbianmania from the preview in quassel 18:42 e1z0 http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Notch 18:42 e1z0 lolo 18:42 MinetestBot john_minetest: Minecraft - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia 18:46 [0gb_us] I like that description of creative mode. That's how I feel about it too. 18:47 Jordach False Alarm: *** TweekCoffee joined the game <- read that as twerkcoffee 18:48 [0gb_us] I don't get it. 18:48 Jordach just. dont. 18:48 e1z0 hmm that line does not help 18:48 Jordach \o/ 18:48 e1z0 debug window is shown 18:48 e1z0 :| 18:49 NekoGloop Is little jordach the slightest bit horny today? :P 18:49 Jordach NekoGloop, i'm permanent 18:49 Jordach i just do what bruce banner does: i'm always 18:50 Jordach NekoGloop, wanna take a trip down my lost bookmarks aisle? 18:50 rubenwardy bye all 18:50 NekoGloop not really 18:50 Jordach ^ noticed it 18:51 e1z0 Jordach: i'm running minetest under windows 18:51 Jordach so do i, it's not hard 18:51 e1z0 #pragma comment(linker, "/subsystem:windows /ENTRY:mainCRTStartup"); does not help 18:51 e1z0 :| 18:51 Jordach is this mingw or msvc 18:52 e1z0 mingw 18:52 NekoGloop Are you running it under windows or under fake-windows 18:52 Jordach that probably works in msvc; as rubenwardy uses msvc 18:52 e1z0 under windows 18:53 e1z0 any other solutions ? :| 18:53 NekoGloop Double click on the .exe 18:55 sfan5 “Saying Java is good because it works on all operating systems is like saying anal sex is good because it works on all genders.” hahahahaha 18:55 NekoGloop sfan5, so... I fail to see the problem. 18:55 Jordach plolololololololololololololol 18:56 Jordach now that's just absurd :P 18:56 Jordach > sfan5 18:56 e1z0 ;-)) 18:56 sfan5 :P 18:56 Jordach > anal sex in the sentance 18:56 * Jordach 's brain fries 18:56 Jordach like ragnare 18:56 Jordach -e 18:56 sfan5 I blame http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Java 18:56 NekoGloop lua is for people who are too lazy to compile 18:58 [0gb_us] And too lazy to index from zero and end line with semicolons. 18:58 [0gb_us] *lines 18:58 NekoGloop ending lines with semicolons is stupid anyway 19:00 [0gb_us] No, it opens doors for multi-line "lines". 19:00 NekoGloop That's also true 19:00 [0gb_us] Yeah .... I saw that comic too. 19:00 [0gb_us] THey added a link to that comic in actual Python. 19:01 [0gb_us] If you try to import antigravity, I'm told you are redirected there. 19:01 * Jordach bets $5 that sfan5 writes minetestserver in python 19:02 sfan5 D: 19:02 sfan5 how did you know I'm reading http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Python now D: 19:02 * Jordach can see everyones browsing habits 19:02 Jordach i just plug into the internet 19:03 [0gb_us] " Many individual Java programmers claim that it is the very best technology available, particularly when they don't know anything else. " 19:03 sfan5 I thought you get Java.IO.Internet.KillerMonkeys.InternetDestroyedException when doing that 19:04 NekoGloop no, sfan, you get Java.IO.Internet.Noob.Derp.Foo.Bar.Meow.Exceptions.ItsNotMyFaultException 19:09 sfan5 Image on http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/PNG "PNG can do a lot of things." ... is a jpg 19:12 sfan5 yep 19:13 Mossmanikin Hi folks 19:14 [0gb_us] Hello! 19:16 Jordach Mossmanikin, just saw grasses: awesome! 19:16 Mossmanikin Jordach: Thanks :) 19:17 e1z0 :'( 19:17 e1z0 not possible to disable debug window 19:23 Mossmanikin Jordach: I'm thinking about letting the plants spawn as one node with "excessive" use of "[combine"... what do you think, would this be an improvement? 19:27 Jordach Mossmanikin, you can always use scale 19:29 Jordach see that underwater life mod 19:29 * Jordach cant remember the author 19:30 Mossmanikin Jordach: yeah, I'd use scale too, but I don't like if the pixels have different sizes. Do you mean "sea" by Topywo? 19:30 Jordach yeah, that one 19:31 Calinou hi 19:31 Mossmanikin Hi 19:31 Jordach noooooooooooooooooooo 19:32 Jordach i come 8th in most referenced nicks 19:33 [0gb_us] Where do you get these stats? 19:33 Calinou ask the sandwich of the day 19:34 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/nklSVVi.png 19:34 Jordach look who i found 19:34 Calinou and a !pony one 19:35 Jordach [0gb_us], http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html 19:36 Jordach nope nope nope 19:36 * Jordach goes ahead and devalues it 19:36 Calinou devaluing-- 19:36 [0gb_us] I see. 19:37 Jordach i'm second place in total rankings 19:37 * Jordach needs to bump that by a few thousand 19:37 Mossmanikin :D 19:39 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/Obl9L4i.png 19:39 Jordach john_minetest, yes, i can d-d-d-drop the bass 19:40 * sfan5 throws a kitten at Calinou 19:40 * Jordach throws a kitten at sfan5 19:40 * sfan5 puts Rainbow Dash on Jordach's head 19:41 * Jordach runs 19:41 * sfan5 puts Derpy Hooves on john_minetest's head 19:41 Jordach i found xyz fixing the forums http://dash.ponychan.net/chan/files/src/136880052747.gif 19:45 Prestotron552 Hey guys, I'm working on the Skyrim mod. 19:45 Prestotron552 Anybody want to help with it? 19:46 Mossmanikin Hi 19:46 Prestotron552 Greetings bro 19:46 [0gb_us] Me neither. 19:47 Prestotron552 No not like that. I mean for Minetest. Like adding cool monsters and weapons. Sort of like an RPG mod for Minetest 19:47 Calinou that has nothing to do with skyrim then :P 19:47 Jordach Prestotron552, is it copy pasta btw 19:48 Prestotron552 I call it a Skrim mod because Skyrim has cool tools and weapons, along with cool animals. I thought I could create something of the sort. 19:49 Calinou it still isn't one, and you shouldn't call it like that :P 19:50 Prestotron552 How about Minetest Medieval Mod 19:50 Prestotron552 ? 19:50 Prestotron552 Also, why when I try to talk in #minetest-dev it says the channel cannot send it. 19:51 [0gb_us] Probably only the devs are authorized to speak on that channel. 19:52 Prestotron552 Oh because celeron55 said I should talk there because I am thinking about joining the Minetest Dev. He said talk there. 19:52 [0gb_us] Well, I could be wrong. Are you registered with Freenode? 19:53 [0gb_us] Maybe you have to be logged into Freenode to speak there. 19:53 sfan5 webchat is blocked in #minecraft-dev 19:53 Prestotron552 Why blocked? 19:53 sfan5 because spammers 19:54 Prestotron552 Why would celeron say to talk there then? 19:54 VanessaE suggestions for a good, free, ad-free Android IRC client? 19:54 VanessaE also, hi 19:54 sfan5 get a real IRC client 19:54 sfan5 VanessaE: hi, H 19:54 sfan5 HexChat 19:54 VanessaE wait, I guess that was actually ON topic for a change :D 19:54 khonkhortisan webchat is for the non-serious ircers 19:54 [0gb_us] Hello! 19:54 khonkhortisan hi 19:55 Mossmanikin Prestotron552: In case you didn't know: there is the DarkAge mod for non modern building materials https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3213 and the cottages mod https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5120 19:55 [0gb_us] Sorry, I know nothing of mobile OSs. 19:55 [0gb_us] Or their software. 19:55 Jordach VanessaE, YAAIC 19:55 Jordach !g yaaic irc client 19:55 MinetestBot Jordach: http://www.yaaic.org/ 19:55 VanessaE hm, don't see hexchat for android.. 19:55 Jordach VanessaE, ^^^ 19:55 Prestotron552 Mossmanikin, I know, I want to make something better. Like something huge. 19:56 VanessaE Jordach: ok. 19:56 Jordach it's open source. 19:57 Calinou most people I've seen say yaaic sucks compared to AndChat 19:57 Prestotron552 Brb guys 19:59 Jordach Calinou, i've used it on my 7'' tablet, nothing wrong 20:00 Jordach people are just bitching for no good reason 20:00 sfan5 VanessaE: oh god derp; do s/HexChat/AndChat/ 20:00 Calinou they do, yeah 20:00 Calinou yaaic's development seems quite inactive :/ 20:00 Jordach Calinou, it was also a shitty cheap tablet too, Yaaic is fine 20:01 VanessaE sfan5: hahah 20:02 VanessaE ok 20:02 Prestotron552 Back 20:02 VanessaE wb 20:02 ShadowNinja I found AndChat better than YAAIC. But I like QuasselDroid even better. 20:02 Prestotron552 Oh sfan5, I quit Crevis. You don't have to compile anymore. 20:02 Jordach VanessaE, i love the regex function in quassel, i get notifications when someone joins your servers 20:02 sfan5 Prestotron552: daww :( 20:02 VanessaE hm, andchat isn't open source? :-/ 20:03 ShadowNinja Nope. 20:03 Jordach VanessaE, yaaic it is 20:03 Prestotron552 sfan5, Why so sad. Everybody hated us because it was a fork but better. 20:03 Jordach > but better 20:03 Jordach it's a modpack 20:03 ShadowNinja If you're willing to try out Quassel then you can use QuasselDroid. 20:04 Prestotron552 Well actaully, we added things that didnt have a mod. Such as Freight Crystals. 20:04 * Jordach goes into the shed for a deckchair 20:04 Calinou andchat is also shareware 20:04 * Jordach then grabs a beer and a shotgun 20:05 VanessaE sfan5: any ads in this program? 20:05 Prestotron552 sfan5, how did you become and contributer and how would I contribute to Minetest? I would really like to help. Maybe not be a full(everyone knows me) guy. I just kinda want to help on a few things here and there. 20:06 sfan5 VanessaE: haven't seen any 20:06 VanessaE ok, good 20:06 VanessaE back to regular on-topic stuff now :-) 20:06 Calinou "contributor" is preferred to "contributer" in thi scase 20:06 sfan5 Prestotron552: just fork and pull-request 20:06 Prestotron552 Like on the ohloh how there is MANY people who helped. 20:06 * Jordach is in that list 20:06 Prestotron552 Fork and pull-request? 20:06 Calinou there are many ways to contribute, create nice mods, nice texture packs, nice sounds, a nice feature (C++)... 20:07 Prestotron552 Jordach is in that list 20:07 ShadowNinja Prestotron552: A easy thing to start with is to add the stick group to sticks and jungle sticks. 20:07 Prestotron552 Jungle Sticks? What do you mean? 20:07 sfan5 Calinou: "[...] music for Crevis [...] soundtracks from MLP... (hehe)" ~http://www.crevis.net/news.html 20:07 Prestotron552 I could make it but give me more information on how it should work 20:08 Prestotron552 Crevis sucked really bad. 20:08 Calinou it was unprofessional 20:08 Prestotron552 It's almost the same as Minetest. Therefore I quit. 20:08 Prestotron552 Thats why I'm here to help Minetest. 20:08 Calinou "Crevis is freeware" <= is the engine modified? 20:08 ShadowNinja Prestotron552: Jungle sticks are what you get from jungle trees/wood. 20:08 Prestotron552 Oh are Jungle trees made yet? 20:08 Calinou if it isn't, then it's FOSS, not freeware :P 20:09 Prestotron552 ShadowNinja, are the trees made yet(jungle) 20:09 sfan5 "The release of Crevis 2.5 has been ca" {EOL} ~crevis.net 20:09 Calinou "Servers. Electroware has easy to create servers in the game's launcher. You do not need to go through lots of trouble setting up one." woah, that's not true at all 20:09 Prestotron552 Exactly. 20:09 Calinou in both cases you need to forward ports unless you're not behind a NAT :P 20:09 ShadowNinja They have existed for years, but they were re-enabled a fow months ago. 20:09 ShadowNinja few* 20:09 Prestotron552 Alec(Niften) won't let me edit the website, I have nothing to do with that. 20:10 Prestotron552 Ok how shall I make them? As a mod or just send you a link? 20:10 Prestotron552 I can can them done in a few hours. 20:10 ShadowNinja ? 20:10 Prestotron552 *I can get them done 20:10 Exio4 Calinou: it is freesoftware, always, unless the code got BSD-ed soonish 20:10 Calinou ShadowNinja: there are no jungle sticks in the default game, only in More Blocks 20:10 Calinou (to make jungle fences) 20:11 Prestotron552 Should I add it to the Modding section or just put it on mediafire and you give it to whoever puts updates up. 20:11 Prestotron552 I can do Jungle Fences. 20:11 ShadowNinja Oh, well it needs to be added to regular sticks. 20:11 ShadowNinja Have you added it to moreblocks? 20:11 Jordach hi tablet user 20:11 VanessaE_[T] Yay.. it works :-) 20:11 Prestotron552 When shall I start? 20:11 [0gb_us] Yay! 20:11 Exio4 what irc client VanessaE_[T]? 20:12 Calinou there are jungle fences already 20:12 Exio4 i use andchat and yaaic 20:12 sfan5 VanessaE_[T]: you should do /nick VanessaT 20:12 Calinou please do yourself a favour, don't revent the wheel :P 20:12 Exio4 (and ssh/mosh, but they don't count) 20:12 Jordach * Received CTCP-VERSION answer from VanessaE_[T]: AndChat 1.4.3.2 http://www.andchat.net 20:12 Calinou what tablet do you have? 20:12 Exio4 andchat is k, but it is crashy 20:12 Calinou and proprietary 20:12 Exio4 yaaic is opensource 20:12 Exio4 :D 20:12 VanessaE it's a Xelio, 1001A or some such 20:12 Prestotron552 brb 20:12 Jordach > Xelio 1001A 20:12 Jordach seems legit 20:12 ShadowNinja And very slow at connecting to BNCs. 20:13 * [0gb_us] shutters, and rearranges the version number: 1.2.3.4 20:13 Jordach shudders* 20:13 VanessaE cheap but functional and large (10.1") 20:13 * Calinou prefers 10" 20:13 Exio4 ShadowNinja: i don't use bouncers 20:13 * Jordach giggles at inch sizes 20:13 Exio4 i think they suck when using an android, seriously 20:13 Prestotron552 Ok ShadowNinja, will I be on ohlol contributors if I add this? 20:13 ShadowNinja I use my quassel core. It works quite well. 20:14 Exio4 loads of backlog in a shitty display + lots of wasted bandwidth 20:14 ShadowNinja Prestotron552: No, that is for the engine(I beleive) 20:14 Exio4 (that is why i use ssh... :P) 20:14 Exio4 and minetest_game 20:14 sfan5 Prestotron552: if your commit gets commited to the repository ohloh will put you on the list 20:14 Prestotron552 Oh ok. So who adds this? celeron55? 20:15 Exio4 core devs 20:15 ShadowNinja ohloh tracks both minetest and minetest_game? 20:15 Exio4 both need to agree unless it is trivia 20:15 Exio4 ShadowNinja: afaik 20:15 sfan5 ShadowNinja: yep 20:15 Prestotron552 Because celeron55 said he doesn't decide anything. Why is that? 20:15 ShadowNinja Prestotron552: /join #minetest-dev Look at voiced users. 20:15 sfan5 he works on other stuff 20:15 Prestotron552 Like other games? 20:15 sfan5 yes 20:16 Prestotron552 He has no part in Minetest anymore? 20:16 Exio4 and real life work :P 20:16 Prestotron552 Obviously. 20:16 Exio4 Prestotron552: he is a core dev and sometimes does stuff 20:16 Calinou he doesn't work much on Minetest anymore, but the game is far from dead. 20:16 Calinou it's probably more active now :) 20:16 Exio4 but he is mainly busy with other stuff 20:17 Prestotron552 Oh I see. I emailed him asking if I could help soo.. And wait, is is possible for me AT ALL to talk in #minetest-dev 20:17 Prestotron552 I'm very eager to join the Minetest Developers(core or not) 20:17 sfan5 Prestotron552: unless you get a real irc client, no 20:17 [0gb_us] If you don't use the web chat, yes. 20:17 [0gb_us] I type too slowly, as always ... 20:17 Calinou you don't need to ask him 20:18 Prestotron552 Do you know any IRC clients in which I could talk to Core Developers? 20:18 Calinou to join the Minetest developers, you should know programming languages (C++/Lua or sometimes something else), or art 20:18 * [0gb_us] recommends XChat 20:18 Calinou XChat/HexChat are good 20:18 Prestotron552 Is Minetest like Anonymous(joining wise), just join? 20:18 Calinou http://hexchat.github.io 20:18 Prestotron552 Ok I will install HexChat then 20:18 Calinou you basically make a pull request, if it's accepted then you're considered as a contributor 20:18 Calinou Prestotron552: if you're on 64 bit windows, get x64 HexChat, not x86 20:19 Prestotron552 I'm on 32 for my laptop. I'm building my new PC though. 20:19 VanessaE_[T] there. ok, this works, back to the pc now 20:19 Prestotron552 I got HexChat test build x86 20:19 Prestotron552 Ok got the main Jungle Stick texture done. 20:20 Calinou I already have one 20:20 [0gb_us] I'm thinking about filling out offers for a new computer. I can't afford one strait up, and I hear the offer laptops are legit. You spend, like, $20 USD on offers, then get a computer. 20:20 Prestotron552 Oh you do? I thought itwas just my job. Lol can I use my texture or should I use yours @ Calinou 20:20 Calinou if you don't need mobility, build a desktop 20:21 Exio4 they are cheaper 20:21 Exio4 :D 20:21 Calinou you can use mine, yes 20:21 [0gb_us] I don't know how to tell which offer computers will be compatible with the OS though, so I'll have to research a bit. 20:21 Prestotron552 Ok do you have a download link? 20:21 Calinou for laptops, I'd suggest a brand that sells laptops without OS 20:21 Calinou eg. Clevo does that 20:21 Calinou Prestotron552: https://github.com/Calinou/moreblocks 20:21 Exio4 [0gb_us]: if you really need a cheap-system, buy an APU 20:22 [0gb_us] !g APU 20:22 MinetestBot [0gb_us]: http://www.apu.edu/ 20:22 Prestotron552 Ok wait, does moreblocks have Jungle Sticks in it? If so, why not just use that. 20:22 Exio4 AMD APU :P 20:22 Calinou accelerated processing unit 20:22 Calinou Prestotron552: it does since december 2011 :P 20:22 ruskie I'd wait for the APUs a bit 20:22 [0gb_us] !g AMD APU 20:22 MinetestBot [0gb_us]: http://fusion.amd.com/ 20:22 Exio4 for the steamrollers ruskie? 20:23 ruskie since the new one is coming out end of the year with unified mem access 20:23 Exio4 yep 20:23 Calinou kabini is planned for early 2014 20:23 * Calinou smells high prices at launch already 20:23 ruskie still want to get an opteron x mini-atx/itx board for his server 20:23 Calinou generally you should wait before buying 20:23 Calinou better drivers, better prices 20:23 Prestotron552 I'm confused. AfterNet, all these channels for freenode on HexChat. How do I just search? 20:23 ruskie Calinou, can't say the prices changed all that much 20:24 Calinou you type "free" and it should select freenode 20:24 Calinou ruskie: that is mostly true for graphics cards 20:24 ruskie the matx boards I have with the e350 are still 130 or so today as they were on release 20:24 Calinou but the driver stuff applies to the APUs too 20:24 Calinou e350 lol 20:24 ruskie I have 3 machine with e350 20:24 Prestotron552 I'm on freenode 20:24 ruskie desktop, server and the media box 20:25 Prestotron552 Ok good, I'm in #minetest-dev 20:25 ruskie my firewall is an atom(simply because that's what was available for a low power system at the time) 20:25 * Calinou prefers ATX and non-soldered CPUs 20:26 * Exio4 highfives ruskie with four steamroller modules 20:26 ruskie APUs so far tended to be onboard 20:26 ruskie and frankly as I don't have any addon cards in the desktop don't much care for the full form factors 20:26 Prestotron552 If moreblocks has Jungle Sticks why not just take the mod? 20:27 ruskie the server though I do want some expansion 20:27 Prestotron552 Ok I'm maing a github I guess. 20:27 Calinou hardware firewall, lol 20:27 ruskie openbsd with pf 20:27 ruskie just a separate box for it 20:27 Prestotron552 Nice. 20:28 ruskie still have my phenom II X-3 board and cpu if I really want to setup something to gobble some more power 20:28 ruskie but low power/decent performance is what I'm aiming for 20:30 Prestotron552 Gotta go, well just working on things for Minetest. I'll stay on if I need help see ya. 20:30 ruskie I have a PS3 for playing the other game 20:30 ruskie s 20:30 ruskie currently ffxiv:arr is sucking most of my free time 20:39 ruskie no laptops here 20:39 ruskie my mobile computing stuff is a N900 and a galaxy tab 2 10.1 20:40 ruskie so proper linux I can do work on and a toy to look at web sites easily and watch videos etc... 20:40 ruskie john_minetest, well N900 has an xterm, ssh, etc... ;) 20:41 ruskie and yeah do have kbox terminal on the android as well 20:41 ruskie but the N900 has a physical keyboard 20:41 ruskie so it makes it easy to use 20:41 ruskie anyway off to bed 20:47 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 20:48 Mossmanikin Hi 20:51 STHGOM hi 20:55 VanessaE evening PA. 20:55 VanessaE (you're in a bit late) 20:55 PilzAdam yea, was visiting my Grandma 20:56 Peacock cant visit mine lol can't keep a straight face ever since she got one of those mexican permanent (tattoed) makeup lol 21:00 STHGOM okkkk....... 21:01 Peacock ever seen one? 21:02 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:02 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:02 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:02 Peacock then you know it looks really bad lol 21:02 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:05 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:08 proller Prestotron562, first day in internet? 21:08 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:09 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:10 proller looks like 21:11 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:12 proller you 12 years old? 21:12 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:13 proller looks like it 21:13 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:14 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:14 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:16 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:16 proller and stop spam github 21:18 Mossmanikin Yeah, first rule actually: don't take anything personal 21:18 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:19 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:19 Mossmanikin :D 21:20 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:20 Exio4 hi PilzAdam 21:20 Exio4 i think someone is talking about you 21:21 PilzAdam hm? 21:21 snesker muh blocks 21:21 Exio4 [18:19:19] I know a guy who takes everything personal. He is channel op and he bans somebody every few minutes xD. 21:21 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:21 Exio4 >:D 21:22 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:22 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:22 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:22 Exio4 lol 21:22 Exio4 Prestotron562: you won't 21:22 snesker is there a disconnect message when downloading media? 21:22 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:23 snesker Well, whatever's downloaded when connecting to someone's server. 21:23 PilzAdam Prestotron562, protip: "XD" makes you look like a kid 21:23 Exio4 xD 21:23 PilzAdam its mostly used by kids on youtube 21:24 Exio4 PilzAdam: sure? xD 21:24 Exio4 XD i don't think so 21:24 snesker xd 21:24 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:24 Exio4 haha xd 21:24 Exio4 xdddddd (?) 21:24 Exio4 well, k, it sucks 21:24 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:24 Exio4 it gets.. weird 21:24 Exio4 Prestotron562: no why 21:24 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:24 snesker >kid 21:25 snesker and no, Im just connecting to this thing: http://landrush.bremaweb.com/ 21:25 Exio4 i use :) when i'm going to take his body out and burn it 21:25 Exio4 like 21:25 Exio4 john_minetest: you should read more about X :) 21:25 Exio4 seriously ;) 21:25 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:25 Exio4 you'll get bored of it in 2 months 21:26 Exio4 btw, what is your age? 21:26 Exio4 15? 21:26 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:26 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:26 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:26 Exio4 yes 21:26 Mossmanikin Yes, excessive use of smileys makes you look like a kid, that's why I use 'em, I try to stay young :D 21:26 Exio4 haha 21:26 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:26 Exio4 hello peter pan 21:26 snesker The process of downloading media when connecting to a server - I'm asking if the client displays a message when you become disconnected from the server you're downloading from. 21:26 Mossmanikin ^^ 21:27 Exio4 Prestotron562: 16 or 17 then 21:27 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:27 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:27 PilzAdam Prestotron562, your actual physical age doesnt really matter 21:27 Exio4 i was trying to identify the "since 14" 21:27 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:27 Exio4 if he is 15 it isn't the same as he is 20 21:27 PilzAdam the "mental age" is way more important 21:27 snesker He could be 25. I know 'xD' to be at least that old. 21:27 Exio4 PilzAdam: that is bullshit 21:28 Exio4 err 21:28 Exio4 Prestotron562: * 21:28 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:28 Exio4 used tab and failed 21:28 Exio4 (read: tabfail) 21:28 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:28 snesker That's problematic. I think it should. 21:28 PilzAdam Prestotron562, you seem very immature to me, judging from what I read in IRC 21:28 Exio4 i got you use windows vista on 1.6ghz computer 21:28 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:29 Exio4 16 and some months 21:29 Exio4 tell us your birthday now >:) 21:29 snesker Are there any real practical reasons to use vista? 21:29 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:29 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:29 Exio4 !seen kaeza 21:29 MinetestBot Exio4: kaeza was last seen at 2013-09-03 04:49:17 UTC on #minetest 21:30 Exio4 like internet explorer to download firefox? 21:31 PilzAdam Exio4, try writing to Microsoft to make the FF download page the default page for IE, since thats the #1 usecase for it 21:31 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:31 Exio4 ie doesn't crashes 21:32 Exio4 it tells you that YOU THINK it crashed but it just refreshes the page! 21:34 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:35 Exio4 blame google 21:35 Exio4 and don't use chrome 21:35 VanessaE bbl 21:35 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:36 Exio4 Prestotron562: read minetest.conf.example 21:36 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:36 Exio4 if you made the correct answer you shouldn't need to clarify you googled 21:36 Exio4 MF doesn't sounds like a nice word 21:36 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:36 * Exio4 uses FFx 21:37 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:37 Exio4 (MF alone sounds like motherfucker more than mozilla firefox ;P) 21:37 Mossmanikin Exio4: :D 21:37 PilzAdam Prestotron562, what is your name in the forums? 21:37 Exio4 you are free to whatever you want lol 21:37 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:38 PilzAdam you are not "Electroware"? 21:38 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:38 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:38 PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=109187#p109187 21:38 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:38 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:39 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:39 Exio4 you don't look trustworthy 21:39 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:39 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:39 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:40 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:40 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:41 Exio4 it is german 21:41 Exio4 try to say it in half second and you got its correct pronunciation 21:41 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:41 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:42 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:42 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:42 PilzAdam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gol3yhPYm-8&feature=youtu.be&t=20s 21:42 PilzAdam the first word 21:43 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:43 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:43 PilzAdam john_minetest, the one in the video is outdated 21:43 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:43 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:43 PilzAdam no 21:44 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:44 STHGOM today is bacon appreciation day!!! :D 21:44 STHGOM I think.. 21:44 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:45 PilzAdam Prestotron562, wtf is this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/840#issuecomment-23901625 ? 21:45 PilzAdam can I delete that "seems weird" comment? 21:45 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:45 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:46 STHGOM the sandwich of the day should be BLT, not Shawarma :D 21:47 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:50 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:51 STHGOM bye bye 21:52 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:54 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:55 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:59 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:59 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:03 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:04 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:04 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:07 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:07 proller PilzAdam, better to delete weird "range" feature 22:11 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:13 Maple__ NOT SILENT. 22:13 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:16 Peacock +1 proller's idea, ever since range, ive gotten weird air pockets in oceans that dont go away 22:17 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:18 Maple__ Er, sort of. 22:18 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:18 Maple__ 37 channels. \o 22:18 snesker How do you scroll up chat messages? 22:19 proller Prestotron562, irc is designed for silence, respect it 22:19 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:21 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:22 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:24 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:24 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:24 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:25 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:25 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:26 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:26 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:27 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:27 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:28 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:28 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:28 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:29 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:29 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:29 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:30 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:31 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:31 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:32 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:33 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:34 Peacock poppycock, try plugging a car battery to your PSU 22:35 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:36 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:39 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:39 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:41 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:42 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:43 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:43 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:45 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:46 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:46 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:55 Mossmanikin Can a topic in the forum be shared by two users? By that I mean: is it possible to give a certain user (no moderator) the right to edit the first post of a topic? 22:56 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:58 proller Prestotron562, use -next build 22:59 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:00 proller its awesome 23:00 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:00 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:00 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:01 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:06 khonkhortisan Does lava only burn things it touches (or fire touches from burning something else)? 23:11 khonkhortisan looks like it dos. 23:11 khonkhortisan does. 23:19 proller khonkhortisan, please rebase diagonal_rail 23:22 jojoa1997 would it be illegal to make a version of this mod since it is GNU? http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1540010-equivalent-exchange-3-pre1h/ 23:32 Mossmanikin jojoa1997: the idea isn't licensed, just the code and media 23:32 jojoa1997 ok 23:34 jojoa1997 so if there is a mod in minecraft i dont have to get permission to make it ass long as i dont use their code 23:34 jojoa1997 oops *as 23:35 Mossmanikin jojoa1997: as long as you don't use code/textures/sound 23:36 Mossmanikin Don't know about "fair use" though 23:43 Miner_48er any mod for displaying server rules with an accept button? 23:45 ShadowNinja Miner_48er: The King Arthur server did something like that with kaeza's wiki mod. 23:46 Mossmanikin PilzAdam : I asked while you were gone: Can a topic in the forum be shared by two users? By that I mean: is it possible to give a certain user (no moderator) the right to edit the first post of a topic? 23:47 PilzAdam no 23:47 Mossmanikin Ok, thanks