| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:01 |
Jordach |
i giggled as well |
| 00:01 |
hoodedice |
Linus Torvalds said: |
| 00:01 |
hoodedice |
"If you need more than 3 levels of indentation, you're screwed anyway, and should fix your program. " |
| 00:01 |
hoodedice |
src/localplayer.cpp ; line 178 |
| 00:02 |
PilzAdam |
he also said: "nvidia, fuck you!" |
| 00:02 |
hoodedice |
Indeed |
| 00:03 |
hoodedice |
But this is in minetest source code |
| 00:03 |
hoodedice |
https://github.com/WilliamBundy/minetest/blob/228ec338393d3312f12a94769b8cf6a5bb9e6568/src/localplayer.cpp#L178 |
| 00:05 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, what i spotted was very suspicious: http://i.imgur.com/WVOlOZc.png <- my test, slamacow's model -> http://i.imgur.com/v4VwRel.png |
| 00:05 |
Jordach |
see my model's inside elbow joint has that "crease" which is also spotted on slamacow's own model |
| 00:05 |
VanessaE |
probably just a coincidence |
| 00:06 |
hoodedice |
Means one thing |
| 00:06 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, nope, that's a mesh bug |
| 00:06 |
hoodedice |
BLENDER IS AWESOME ! |
| 00:06 |
Peacock |
torvalds = geezer |
| 00:06 |
Jordach |
i noticed it in pavel's model too |
| 00:06 |
Jordach |
there is no way of physically removing it |
| 00:06 |
PilzAdam |
we get a new TOTD! (topic of the day) |
| 00:07 |
Jordach |
i do have one idea right at this second |
| 00:07 |
PilzAdam |
!op |
| 00:07 |
VanessaE |
huh. |
| 00:07 |
|
Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | Today: Bring NekoGloop a fishy |
| 00:07 |
PilzAdam |
!deop |
| 00:07 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, he's jsut cleverly hid it with tons of mesh lines |
| 00:07 |
* PilzAdam |
hands NekoGloop a fish |
| 00:07 |
* NekoGloop |
noms the fishy~ |
| 00:08 |
NekoGloop |
All of the pings. ALL OF THEM! |
| 00:08 |
Peacock |
fish? he's into sushi? NekoGloop, I thought you were a baccalà man |
| 00:08 |
Peacock |
(oblig. sopranos quote) |
| 00:08 |
NekoGloop |
No, I eat raw fish |
| 00:09 |
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| 00:09 |
Peacock |
i wouldn't eat raw anything, not with all those reports of listerine tainting |
| 00:10 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, now you know why i use my super bendy arms until i find a fix? |
| 00:10 |
sdzen |
I burn everything out of choice |
| 00:10 |
VanessaE |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir9Uvn5rcIs |
| 00:10 |
VanessaE |
BAHAHAHA |
| 00:10 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: sure |
| 00:11 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, these are better with sound |
| 00:11 |
VanessaE |
hm, we need better sounds actually |
| 00:11 |
* VanessaE |
watches http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4kzN3tgpUk |
| 00:11 |
VanessaE |
are those sounds accurate for MC? |
| 00:12 |
PilzAdam |
http://youtu.be/oHg5SJYRHA0 |
| 00:12 |
hoodedice |
PilzAdam changed the topic of #minetest |
| 00:12 |
hoodedice |
Changed from what? |
| 00:12 |
Jordach |
correct VanessaE |
| 00:12 |
hoodedice |
oh. |
| 00:12 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: we must fix our sounds. |
| 00:13 |
sdzen |
nice rick rolling pilzy |
| 00:13 |
* hoodedice |
gives NekoGloop carrots |
| 00:13 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, well, some of them are true, some of them not |
| 00:13 |
sdzen |
I memorized the link to that evil video |
| 00:13 |
hoodedice |
Hey Pilz, nice song |
| 00:15 |
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| 00:16 |
hoodedice |
I shared it on my google+ |
| 00:16 |
hoodedice |
And now people are like 'You can't get me haha' and stuff |
| 00:17 |
Jordach |
> google+ > GOOGLE+ |
| 00:17 |
* Jordach |
rages silently |
| 00:17 |
* PilzAdam |
slaps hoodedice with ixquick.com |
| 00:17 |
Jordach |
loll |
| 00:17 |
PilzAdam |
Mission Complete |
| 00:17 |
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| 00:17 |
hoodedice |
I have an android |
| 00:18 |
hoodedice |
spied anyway |
| 00:18 |
Peacock |
i have android too http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mvSWPkVG6zc/TLS3Xbkjd4I/AAAAAAAADQE/jKTy_ArHNjo/s400/data-phone2.jpg |
| 00:19 |
PilzAdam |
the black guy has google glasses |
| 00:19 |
hoodedice |
Does it play shadowgun? |
| 00:19 |
hoodedice |
I guess not. |
| 00:19 |
Peacock |
the ipad also looks like the star trek pads lol |
| 00:20 |
Jordach |
Peacock, star trek did it first |
| 00:20 |
Jordach |
Jordie's Headset looks like GG |
| 00:20 |
Peacock |
and Riker did everyone first |
| 00:20 |
Jordach |
(Google Glass) |
| 00:20 |
PilzAdam |
<Jordach> Jordie's Headset looks like Good Game |
| 00:21 |
Peacock |
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeyr7DKHZu4 |
| 00:21 |
Jordach |
!!title |
| 00:22 |
Jordach |
</troll> |
| 00:23 |
* Jordach |
is working out how to do the mouth with 4 bones a side |
| 00:24 |
Peacock |
there's seriously a species on stargate called Assgarde, lol |
| 00:25 |
Jordach |
Assguardian |
| 00:26 |
Jordach |
oh cool, ass sentries |
| 00:26 |
Peacock |
i never could get into that show |
| 00:26 |
* Jordach |
makes some voxely teeth |
| 00:26 |
Peacock |
have you seen the actors? lol |
| 00:27 |
hoodedice |
http://www.whatevo.com/media/posts/the-pope-emperor1.jpg |
| 00:28 |
Peacock |
then again, it doesn't beat the humans on Angel 1 on star trek lol |
| 00:28 |
hoodedice |
It's Agard |
| 00:28 |
hoodedice |
*Asgard |
| 00:29 |
Peacock |
yeah but it sounds like... lol |
| 00:31 |
VanessaE |
this slamacow guy is good. Too bad he doesn't do anything "feature length" |
| 00:31 |
VanessaE |
e.g. 10-15 mins |
| 00:32 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, i'm just getting started |
| 00:32 |
* Jordach |
needs a machine that can render while i do other things |
| 00:32 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, would you like to render some of my render films, eg, just press the movie render button (settings should be saved) |
| 00:32 |
Peacock |
for your daily WTF: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0z_7bKm258 |
| 00:32 |
VanessaE |
naw |
| 00:33 |
VanessaE |
I don't know wtf I'm doing when it comes to that :) |
| 00:34 |
Jordach |
right, mouth armature in place, weight painting then mouth movement tests |
| 00:34 |
hoodedice |
Peacock rofl |
| 00:34 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, i'm making an open source player model (way better than pavel_s') |
| 00:34 |
VanessaE |
cool |
| 00:35 |
Jordach |
this is my challenge, upgrade my gen 3 model to have a fully working feature set |
| 00:35 |
VanessaE |
challenge accepted? :) |
| 00:39 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, experiment #1 http://i.imgur.com/rNwHIZ3.png |
| 00:39 |
Jordach |
it's FLAT against the body of the model :) |
| 00:40 |
VanessaE |
uh |
| 00:40 |
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| 00:40 |
hoodedice |
No |
| 00:40 |
VanessaE |
definitely no |
| 00:40 |
VanessaE |
that's....creepy |
| 00:41 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, i'll be forced to work with nodes |
| 00:41 |
Jordach |
(blender nodes) |
| 00:41 |
Jordach |
and cycles!! |
| 00:41 |
Jordach |
(which doesnt work with my nvidia card) :( |
| 00:41 |
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| 00:41 |
hoodedice |
You'll have to do nodes |
| 00:42 |
Jordach |
fuck that shit |
| 00:42 |
hoodedice |
Any sort of 'pulling' will give it a crap look |
| 00:42 |
hoodedice |
Like the arms |
| 00:42 |
hoodedice |
Seperate it |
| 00:43 |
hoodedice |
What's your latest model look like? |
| 00:43 |
hoodedice |
https://plus.google.com/u/0/108010412683330543463/posts/SuSbfukw2Br |
| 00:43 |
hoodedice |
(AWWWWWW) |
| 00:44 |
PilzAdam |
dont use google |
| 00:44 |
hoodedice |
facebook then? |
| 00:44 |
hoodedice |
Microcrap |
| 00:45 |
Jordach |
hoodedice, let me revert the subdivisions then (with dissolve as blender didnt want me to undo it for some reason) |
| 00:45 |
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| 00:45 |
Jordach |
literal un-subdivide btw |
| 00:46 |
hoodedice |
Diaspora? |
| 00:46 |
hoodedice |
*Ghost Twon* |
| 00:46 |
hoodedice |
**Ghost Town* |
| 00:47 |
Jordach |
hm, i think i have a idea, if it fucks up, i'll reload the blend file |
| 00:48 |
hoodedice |
"Disney shuts down LucasArts" |
| 00:48 |
hoodedice |
ZWIZ YOU !!!! |
| 00:49 |
Peacock |
naw JJ abrams is gonna have Khan invade Coruscant |
| 00:50 |
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| 00:51 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 00:51 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, name the problems with the mouth |
| 00:51 |
Peacock |
www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2zpDpZ90cM |
| 00:51 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: "Backups, checks etc. This would not happen." |
| 00:51 |
* Jordach |
needs to know |
| 00:52 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: too narrow (side to side), too thin, no lips, too light inside, teeth are just wrong |
| 00:52 |
VanessaE |
too angular for the opening also |
| 00:52 |
VanessaE |
(note those videos have very detailed mouths) |
| 00:52 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, i'm using shadeless blender mode to see inside places where light wouldnt normally go :) |
| 00:52 |
VanessaE |
ohhh |
| 00:53 |
VanessaE |
let's see it with "real" lighting? |
| 00:53 |
Jordach |
that's why the render looked wrong |
| 00:54 |
Jordach |
hm, with shadows, it looks wrong (the eyes) |
| 00:55 |
hoodedice |
And licencing to EA ! |
| 00:55 |
hoodedice |
http://nooooooooooooooo.com/ |
| 00:56 |
Jordach |
hoodedice, VanessaE: should i keep going until we find something we like? |
| 00:56 |
hoodedice |
Sure |
| 00:56 |
hoodedice |
Now get on with it |
| 00:56 |
Jordach |
eventually we'll hit that sweet spot |
| 00:56 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/jtL06RM.png |
| 00:56 |
Jordach |
^ ray traced shadows |
| 00:56 |
hoodedice |
Talking or chatting wastes time |
| 00:57 |
hoodedice |
Give Sam some coffee |
| 00:57 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: oh yeah, actually that looks about right, with the shadows. |
| 00:57 |
VanessaE |
(and indeed, give the poor guy some caffeine ;) ) |
| 00:57 |
Jordach |
hold on.. |
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| 00:59 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/bTLLcmQ.png |
| 00:59 |
Jordach |
any better? |
| 00:59 |
VanessaE |
I said "some", not a whole POT FULL! :D |
| 01:00 |
Jordach |
Jordach:Give_Sam_coffee(100) |
| 01:00 |
Jordach |
<VanessaE> (and indeed, give the poor guy some caffeine ;) ) |
| 01:00 |
Jordach |
injection to the blood = that |
| 01:00 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 01:00 |
Jordach |
hoodedice, any suggestions |
| 01:01 |
hoodedice |
Get him some dark textures |
| 01:01 |
hoodedice |
And a hood |
| 01:01 |
Jordach |
hoodedice, dafuq |
| 01:01 |
hoodedice |
Then make a star wars Parody |
| 01:01 |
hoodedice |
with this guy as that bald guy who controls darth vader |
| 01:01 |
VanessaE |
"that bald guy"!? |
| 01:01 |
VanessaE |
that's ANAKIN you nit |
| 01:02 |
Jordach |
Did you mean: Palpatine |
| 01:02 |
hoodedice |
Make the eyes level, then we'll talk |
| 01:02 |
hoodedice |
Anakin is Darth -.- |
| 01:02 |
VanessaE |
(and he doesn't "control" Vader, but rather IS Vader) |
| 01:02 |
hoodedice |
Palpatine. |
| 01:02 |
hoodedice |
w/e |
| 01:02 |
hoodedice |
Never saw the movies (Still a SW fan) |
| 01:02 |
hoodedice |
*an |
| 01:03 |
hoodedice |
Uhumm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palpatine |
| 01:03 |
VanessaE |
Darth Sidious |
| 01:03 |
hoodedice |
(...master of Darth Vader...) |
| 01:03 |
Jordach |
any better: http://i.imgur.com/40cGgf3.png |
| 01:03 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: give him a o.O look :) |
| 01:04 |
Menche |
could the eyelids be made flush with the front of his face? |
| 01:04 |
VanessaE |
http://www.crazyabouttv.com/Images/dexterslaboratory.jpg |
| 01:04 |
VanessaE |
about like that |
| 01:05 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 01:05 |
Jordach |
shit, ended up maing him smile |
| 01:06 |
hoodedice |
(I'm not talking) |
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| 01:28 |
Peacock |
finally done lol https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105325#p105325 |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
not bad |
| 01:29 |
VanessaE |
pretty close to the original, and the original hasn't even been built yet! :) |
| 01:29 |
Peacock |
still gotta do the 4x4 balconies, but most of the tough/long bits are done lol |
| 01:29 |
Peacock |
if i ever start anything this complicated again, shoot me lol |
| 01:30 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 01:30 |
Peacock |
actually, my next one is another MVRDV :S lol |
| 01:30 |
Peacock |
http://www.dysturb.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/mvrdv2.bmp |
| 01:30 |
VanessaE |
*BANG!* |
| 01:30 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 01:31 |
Peacock |
but not tonight lol |
| 01:31 |
VanessaE |
you should be building some of this stuff on my server :) |
| 01:32 |
Peacock |
some of the bits are pretty slow on localhost lol can't imagine as a client |
| 01:32 |
MarkSill |
I'm working on a modding API that'll add advanced things more easily, if anyone wants to check it out. https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105321 |
| 01:33 |
Peacock |
the more of these i do, the less and less i use w/e, theyre just too complicated |
| 01:33 |
Peacock |
rectangles are easy, its all the shaping and chiseling lol |
| 01:34 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: gives you an excuse to hone your build-by-hand skills :) |
| 01:34 |
Peacock |
well it helps when i have a pic to look at, cuz i can follow plans easily enough |
| 01:35 |
Peacock |
photomographic memory and all lol |
| 01:36 |
Peacock |
well, i got a mountain of dishes ive been putting off all day lol bbl |
| 01:38 |
VanessaE |
so? |
| 01:39 |
VanessaE |
that's what dishwashers are for :) |
| 01:46 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, +1 (#-dev) |
| 01:46 |
kaeza |
which mod are we talking about here BTW? |
| 01:47 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: I've seen it with several mods, most recently DanDuncombe's prefab concrete |
| 01:47 |
kaeza |
(assuming there is one :P) |
| 01:47 |
kaeza |
ah |
| 01:47 |
VanessaE |
it's great that people use github and the like, but always always always always point to the repo, not just the zipball |
| 01:48 |
kaeza |
indeed, makes code review a bit easier |
| 01:48 |
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* kaeza |
also tosses the random suggestion to require direct links to archives (e.g. no adfly, no Dropbox "sharing", ...) |
| 01:50 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 01:50 |
VanessaE |
agreed |
| 01:51 |
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| 01:54 |
Niften_ |
Hey. |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 01:58 |
Niften_ |
Anyone out there know about a Minetest working texture pack converter? |
| 01:58 |
Niften_ |
I looked on the forums; they took one down. There's only one left and it needs Ruby to run. |
| 01:58 |
Niften_ |
I don't know how to use Ruby. |
| 01:58 |
Niften_ |
Anyone have any ideas? |
| 02:01 |
Niften_ |
Nvm just found it :D:D:D |
| 02:02 |
Tesseract |
I have one, but it uses the old (<1.5) format. |
| 02:06 |
Niften_ |
Really? |
| 02:06 |
Niften_ |
Okay |
| 02:06 |
Niften_ |
I'll take it |
| 02:06 |
Niften_ |
Can I use it? |
| 02:06 |
Niften_ |
@ Tesseract |
| 02:06 |
Niften_ |
The one I found is for Linux. :[ |
| 02:09 |
Niften_ |
Tesseract ? |
| 02:17 |
Niften_ |
Tesseract, please. |
| 02:21 |
NekoGloop |
WILL YOU JUST SHUT UP. |
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| 02:27 |
Niften_ |
@ NekoGloop Calm down. |
| 02:27 |
Niften_ |
^^ |
| 02:27 |
NekoGloop |
The enter key does not dispense candy |
| 02:28 |
Kacey |
heh |
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| 02:29 |
bud |
what is the link for the do not enter sign and such? |
| 02:30 |
Tesseract |
Oh, yes, it works on windows but requires python and PIL. |
| 02:34 |
Niften_ |
Okay Tesseract. |
| 02:34 |
Niften_ |
Can you link me to it? |
| 02:34 |
Niften_ |
Or email it to me at niftenstarblaze gmail.com |
| 02:36 |
Tesseract |
One minute... |
| 02:41 |
Tesseract |
Niften_: shadowninja.minetest.net/tc.zip |
| 02:42 |
Niften_ |
Aye, thanks. |
| 02:42 |
Niften_ |
Does it work on Windows Tesseract ? |
| 02:42 |
Tesseract |
Niften_: Yes, if you have python and PIL installed. |
| 02:42 |
Niften_ |
Okay. |
| 02:42 |
Niften_ |
PIL? |
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Niften_ |
Tesseract: Where do I run the converter? |
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Tesseract |
Niften_: Anywhere, first you have to unzip the MC pack. Then run python texture-convert.py --help |
| 02:47 |
Niften_ |
So, there is no specified folder to run it in? Like, in the \Textures\Blocks folder? or just in the main folder of the texturepack Tesseract ? |
| 02:49 |
Tesseract |
Niften_: It won't work with new-style texture packs that use the textures/ folder. |
| 02:49 |
Niften_ |
oh... so it works by dividing the pack.png or whatever? |
| 02:50 |
Tesseract |
You run python texture-convert.py -i <path to MC TP> -o <path to MT TP> |
| 02:50 |
Tesseract |
Yes. |
| 02:51 |
Niften_ |
Ah. |
| 02:53 |
Niften_ |
Downloading PIL xD |
| 02:58 |
* sdzen |
runs clearobjects on his server and watches as the monitor turns black three fans engage and the CPU overloads |
| 02:58 |
sdzen |
well this thing wont be usable for the next month |
| 03:00 |
Menche |
at least clearobjects' memory usage doesn't run away and crash now |
| 03:00 |
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| 03:02 |
hoodedice |
Anyone? |
| 03:02 |
hoodedice |
Peacock : server? |
| 03:02 |
Peacock |
up |
| 03:04 |
hoodedice |
Know any games like STAR WARS : Rogue Squadron? |
| 03:04 |
hoodedice |
Or StarFox? |
| 03:04 |
Peacock |
long time ago yeah lol |
| 03:05 |
hoodedice |
Still the best aircraft shooting games |
| 03:05 |
hoodedice |
(After you ignore Ace Combat, that is) |
| 03:05 |
hoodedice |
Look at this |
| 03:05 |
hoodedice |
http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Rogue-Squadron-nintendo-64/dp/B00000DMB2 |
| 03:05 |
hoodedice |
#price |
| 03:06 |
Peacock |
early-mid 90s there was this starwars game i played, graphics were shitty by today's standards |
| 03:06 |
hoodedice |
What kind? |
| 03:06 |
Peacock |
tried playing goldeneye on an n64 emulator, but the controls were crap on the computer |
| 03:06 |
Peacock |
starwars game? it was cockpit of xwing or tie fighter |
| 03:06 |
hoodedice |
X WING vs TIE FIGHTER. |
| 03:07 |
hoodedice |
I had the original cd |
| 03:07 |
Peacock |
there was this other game, i think it was called descent |
| 03:07 |
hoodedice |
But dad never got me a joystick |
| 03:07 |
Peacock |
i never could play with joysticks (any game) |
| 03:07 |
Peacock |
im the kind that breaks those things (and controllers) rather easily lol |
| 03:08 |
Peacock |
the type who jerks the controller to right when turning even though back then it didn't do anything lol |
| 03:08 |
Peacock |
i get a kick out of watching youtube vids of people flying wii remotes into their plasma screens and busting those huge TVs tho lol |
| 03:11 |
sdzen |
haha! thats why I use the little strap |
| 03:16 |
Peacock |
ive always hated consoles though lol grow up constantly blowing into catridges to clear the dust and youll get why lol |
| 03:17 |
Peacock |
and friends taking off with good catridges and leaving you donkey kong, i had 3 or 4 of those in the end lol |
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sdzen |
haha |
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sdzen |
I beat donkey kong in a half hour I think |
| 03:18 |
Peacock |
anyone ever had a colecovision? |
| 03:18 |
* sdzen |
hears crickets |
| 03:18 |
Peacock |
haha |
| 03:18 |
Peacock |
first console |
| 03:18 |
sdzen |
I've.... heard of it :) |
| 03:18 |
Peacock |
http://emulators.theoldcomputer.com/images/manufacturers_systems/Coleco/ColecoVision/28894coleco-vision.system.jpg |
| 03:18 |
Peacock |
when they broke, we pretended the controllers were phones lol |
| 03:19 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 03:19 |
VanessaE |
Abe used to have one of those actually |
| 03:19 |
Peacock |
wonder if he remembers playing ladybug |
| 03:20 |
Peacock |
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_s0SSX3Y2JTw/TBAaCGHrTlI/AAAAAAAAGCI/1SXqR3T5hh4/s320/coleco+kong.jpg |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
yes, he remembered. |
| 03:23 |
Peacock |
http://videogamecritic.com/images/coleco/time_pilot.gif |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
remembers* |
| 03:24 |
Peacock |
time pilot was one of my favs lol |
| 03:24 |
Peacock |
duck hunt too |
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khonkhortisan |
I found the "enable ipv6" checkbox while I was upgrading my computer, now minetest runs |
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khonkhortisan |
After reinstalling libXxf86vm to fix a symlink, that is. |
| 03:28 |
* khonkhortisan |
heard crickets recently as well, it's unlike this area. |
| 03:30 |
Peacock |
lol its not you its the ipv6, i have a hard enough time getting networkmanager to work :P |
| 03:33 |
kaeza |
Duck Hunt <3 |
| 03:34 |
kaeza |
actually played that on the NES |
| 03:34 |
Peacock |
finally figured out what that big slot was for: |
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Peacock |
http://ann.hollowdreams.com/supplies/adambox.jpg |
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hoodedice |
Peacock? |
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VanessaE |
[08-12 23:34] <Peacock> http://ann.hollowdreams.com/supplies/adambox.jpg |
| 04:14 |
VanessaE |
[08-12 23:48] * Peacock has quit (Quit: Leaving) |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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Smellybut |
Hello Hello |
| 04:59 |
Smellybut |
How do I type in Chinese in game |
| 04:59 |
Smellybut |
all it comes up as is ???????? |
| 04:59 |
Smellybut |
a bunch of question marks |
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Smellybut |
測試 |
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Smellybut |
It works here |
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Smellybut |
Why not in game? |
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Smellybut |
Am I doing something wrong |
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Smellybut |
VanessaE your smart lol |
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Smellybut |
You're* |
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Smellybut |
Can someone help me? |
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Smellybut |
:( |
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Smellybut |
I guess I will just log off |
| 05:11 |
Smellybut |
Maybe latter someone will be around :/ lol |
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hoodedice |
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VanessaE |
meh, can't sleep. as usual. |
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* khonkhortisan |
gives NekoGloop http://media-cache-ak1.pinimg.com/236x/01/9f/05/019f0509b3223a777cb0581c25e50c31.jpg |
| 06:16 |
VanessaE |
dafuq? |
| 06:16 |
VanessaE |
that looks oddly familiar somehow |
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khonkhortisan |
mc escher look-alike |
| 06:21 |
VanessaE |
that's what I thought |
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| 07:43 |
VanessaE |
i really HATE COMPUTERS! |
| 07:43 |
VanessaE |
my other HDD is failing now *growl* |
| 07:44 |
VanessaE |
(fortunately, spinning rust is cheap to replace) |
| 07:47 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, lol |
| 07:47 |
kaeza |
I was modifying homedecor as you were commenting on the topic |
| 07:50 |
kaeza |
also, sorry for opening a pull request :P |
| 07:50 |
kaeza |
I remembered too late I had push rights to homedecor :P |
| 07:50 |
VanessaE |
fuck it, just push :) |
| 07:50 |
VanessaE |
exactly, like that |
| 07:51 |
kaeza |
it's on anyway https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/commit/b0cbea42e0ad16a4c1e0c06135bbf806bda32676 |
| 07:55 |
VanessaE |
show that repo who's boss :D |
| 07:56 |
kaeza |
reading up a bit how to do proper mergin and rebasing :P |
| 07:56 |
kaeza |
+g |
| 07:56 |
VanessaE |
oh boy... |
| 07:56 |
VanessaE |
dare I ask what for? :) |
| 07:56 |
kaeza |
all I know how to do is squash some commits |
| 07:56 |
VanessaE |
should I back up my repos? :D |
| 07:56 |
kaeza |
maybe :D |
| 07:57 |
kaeza |
nah, I usually push to my personal repo to see if everything is in order |
| 07:57 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 07:58 |
kaeza |
I fucked up a few times working on IRC mod ;_; |
| 07:58 |
VanessaE |
you fucked up once or twice on homedecor also ;) |
| 07:58 |
kaeza |
that too :P |
| 07:58 |
VanessaE |
but that's ok |
| 07:58 |
VanessaE |
I can't say I've gone very long between bad commits myself :) |
| 07:59 |
kaeza |
hehe |
| 08:00 |
kaeza |
nah, but I have seen no major fyckup in there |
| 08:00 |
kaeza |
fyck? |
| 08:00 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 08:00 |
VanessaE |
russian for fuck? ;) |
| 08:00 |
kaeza |
LOL |
| 08:03 |
* VanessaE |
goes back to watching cartoons :) |
| 08:07 |
VanessaE |
(Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, in case you're curious. and if you don't like that, you can ... ahem) |
| 08:07 |
* VanessaE |
<--- 5 year old at heart |
| 08:08 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 08:10 |
* kaeza |
prefers old Disney cartoons: Duck Tales (or whatever the name is in english), Darkwing Duck, Gummy Bears, ... |
| 08:12 |
VanessaE |
that's what we called it here, too. |
| 08:12 |
VanessaE |
Talespin was one of my favorites from that era too :) |
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meldrian |
Good Morning everbody :) |
| 08:29 |
VanessaE |
morning |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all, happy Lefthanders' Day! :-D |
| 08:49 |
PenguinDad |
Today isn't my day :D |
| 08:50 |
JamesTait |
Me neither. |
| 08:52 |
PenguinDad |
Fun fact: Monkeys are mostly Lefthanders. |
| 08:52 |
VanessaE |
it's my husband's day then :D |
| 08:52 |
JamesTait |
PenguinDad, really? |
| 08:53 |
PenguinDad |
I've seen it on TV |
| 08:54 |
JamesTait |
Must be true then. |
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PenguinDad |
Thats true: http://v.gd/0EaGJb |
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VanessaE |
haha |
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kaeza |
yey chromium crashed again |
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Calinou |
chromium never crashes for me |
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sfan5 |
!c 800*800 |
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MinetestBot |
640Â 000 |
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sfan5 |
!c 640000/1024 |
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MinetestBot |
625 |
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sfan5 |
!c 640000/1024*2 |
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MinetestBot |
1250 |
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sfan5 |
!c 640000/1024 |
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MinetestBot |
625 |
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sfan5 |
!c 640000/1024/1024 |
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MinetestBot |
0.610351562 |
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sfan5 |
!c (640000/1024/1024)*2 |
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MinetestBot |
1.22070312 |
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PenguinDad |
sfan5: /msg MinetestBot !c |
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sfan5 |
I'm already done calculating what I wanted |
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| 10:40 |
DanDuncombe |
Is timespeed 1 normal speed? |
| 10:40 |
VanessaE |
72 I think is the norm. |
| 10:40 |
DanDuncombe |
Ok, thanks. |
| 10:40 |
VanessaE |
0 stops time entirely |
| 10:41 |
DanDuncombe |
Did you get the PM on the forum from me just now? |
| 10:41 |
VanessaE |
nope, haven't checked :) |
| 10:41 |
DanDuncombe |
Ok |
| 10:41 |
PenguinDad |
DanDuncombe: 1 is real time speed |
| 10:41 |
DanDuncombe |
Okay,PenguinDad |
| 10:42 |
VanessaE |
DanDuncombe: re: "invalid nodebox version", your client is out of date or you used an old one |
| 10:42 |
DanDuncombe |
Which is the latest Windows version then? |
| 10:42 |
VanessaE |
dunno :P |
| 10:42 |
VanessaE |
http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.7-c893085-win32.7z |
| 10:42 |
VanessaE |
try this one? |
| 10:43 |
VanessaE |
*checks commit log* |
| 10:43 |
DanDuncombe |
Okay,I will, thanks. |
| 10:43 |
VanessaE |
that's current with git HEAD. |
| 10:43 |
DanDuncombe |
Have you kept the electric fences on the server, but removed the damage? |
| 10:43 |
VanessaE |
yup |
| 10:43 |
VanessaE |
and HDX supports your mod already :) |
| 10:43 |
DanDuncombe |
Thanks :) Working out the textures took ages. |
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| 10:45 |
DanDuncombe |
It took me ages to texture the fence end and corner, mainly because I am used to just making square textures, not custom ones for nodeboxes. |
| 10:46 |
VanessaE |
I cheated a little and used yours as a template while making mine :) |
| 10:46 |
DanDuncombe |
I don'tmind at all :) |
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| 10:46 |
VanessaE |
it was pretty simple - I already had glass, grass, concrete, and a yellow stripe pattern to work with from making them for default and technic mods |
| 10:47 |
DanDuncombe |
The main problem is that unless there is support for the textures directly, a texture pack won't change the grass on the side of the concrete with grass. |
| 10:47 |
VanessaE |
wanna bet? :) |
| 10:47 |
VanessaE |
oh wait |
| 10:47 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 10:47 |
VanessaE |
actually, you can easily fix that if you want to |
| 10:47 |
DanDuncombe |
How? They are different resolutions so overlay won't work. |
| 10:48 |
VanessaE |
er.... yeah |
| 10:48 |
VanessaE |
good point :P |
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| 10:48 |
DanDuncombe |
I tried that already :( |
| 10:48 |
Exio4 |
hi |
| 10:48 |
DanDuncombe |
Still,it isn't hard to make the texture pack support the mod directly, I guess. |
| 10:48 |
VanessaE |
yup, that part was easy |
| 10:49 |
DanDuncombe |
Have you updated colors.txt to support camo mod? |
| 10:49 |
VanessaE |
not yet |
| 10:49 |
DanDuncombe |
Okay. |
| 10:49 |
VanessaE |
I forgot :P |
| 10:50 |
kaeza |
sup Exio4 |
| 10:50 |
Exio4 |
at school |
| 10:50 |
Exio4 |
i will have to recode the tun manag kaeza :( |
| 10:50 |
DanDuncombe |
Never buy Mc pocket edition- Buy survivalcraft, which is based on Mc pocket edition, but 2x the features, and half the price. It has no multiplayer though. |
| 10:51 |
VanessaE |
screw all that :) |
| 10:51 |
VanessaE |
I'll stick to free software |
| 10:51 |
Exio4 |
bbl |
| 10:52 |
DanDuncombe |
It is still awesome. I really meanit. |
| 10:53 |
DanDuncombe |
Does anyone here play The Powder Toy? |
| 10:53 |
Calinou |
<DanDuncombe> Never buy Mc pocket edition- Buy survivalcraft, which is based on Mc pocket edition, but 2x the features, and half the price. It has no multiplayer though. |
| 10:53 |
Calinou |
how are they "based on Mc pocket edition"? |
| 10:53 |
* VanessaE |
dozes off a bit... |
| 10:53 |
Calinou |
it is illegal to do so |
| 10:54 |
DanDuncombe |
It is mostly the same recipes, but with more stuff added, better graphics and half the price. |
| 10:55 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: illegal or not I'm still dozing off :P |
| 10:55 |
VanessaE |
(jk) |
| 10:55 |
DanDuncombe |
Doze away, Vanessa. |
| 10:55 |
DanDuncombe |
Wedon'tmind. |
| 10:55 |
DanDuncombe |
*We don't mind |
| 10:56 |
DanDuncombe |
Does anyone play The Powder Toy then? |
| 10:56 |
Calinou |
no |
| 10:56 |
kaeza |
no |
| 10:56 |
iqualfragile |
yaay, powdertoy |
| 10:56 |
DanDuncombe |
It is free and awesome. |
| 10:56 |
DanDuncombe |
My account is called DanDuncombe, if you want to see my stuff on it. |
| 10:56 |
PenguinDad |
to dusty for me :P |
| 10:57 |
DanDuncombe |
Main webpage: http://powdertoy.co.uk/Download.html |
| 10:57 |
Calinou |
gtg |
| 10:58 |
kaeza |
from the screens, looks like another Worms clone |
| 10:58 |
DanDuncombe |
Never heard of Worms |
| 10:58 |
kaeza |
._. |
| 10:58 |
iqualfragile |
kaeza: nope, absolutely not |
| 10:59 |
DanDuncombe |
Look at the other screenshots too |
| 10:59 |
DanDuncombe |
I have made several nuclear reactors |
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kaeza |
trying it anyway |
| 11:00 |
DanDuncombe |
You should see BuysDB's reactors- they are totally awesome, especiallt his BWR reactor. |
| 11:00 |
VanessaE |
"Please don't block the ads :(" <-- hey, here's a news flash for you: putting a site on the web is cheap. If you need to push ads, you're doing it wrong. |
| 11:00 |
kaeza |
BTW, DanDuncombe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worms_(series) |
| 11:00 |
VanessaE |
(to the guy who made that site of course) |
| 11:00 |
DanDuncombe |
kaeza- Absolutely nothing like that really. |
| 11:01 |
DanDuncombe |
VanessaE, I still don't appear to be connecting. |
| 11:01 |
VanessaE |
hm |
| 11:01 |
VanessaE |
hold |
| 11:02 |
VanessaE |
oh |
| 11:02 |
VanessaE |
um, hang on a sec. |
| 11:03 |
VanessaE |
dafuq// |
| 11:04 |
VanessaE |
there we go |
| 11:04 |
DanDuncombe |
VanessaE: 'putting a site on the web is cheap. If you need to push ads, you're doing it wrong.' It is a huge website, with the forum, wiki, download, every save ever made, which is alot, every person's account who has has one, and more. |
| 11:04 |
VanessaE |
corrupted (zero'ed) player file. |
| 11:04 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: hey, here's a news flash for you: you're wrong |
| 11:04 |
VanessaE |
um, guys... |
| 11:04 |
VanessaE |
I have a website I pay for. unlimited bandwidth, $10/mo. |
| 11:05 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: how many visitors do you have? how much time did you spend creating it? |
| 11:06 |
thexyz |
"unlimited bandwidth" is a nice buzzword though, can you link me your hosting provider? |
| 11:06 |
DanDuncombe |
But the website is hosting 24592 pages of saves, each with 15 saves on it,plus accounts,wiki and more. |
| 11:06 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: not that many visitors by count, but around 50-55 GB/month of usage of that means anything |
| 11:07 |
VanessaE |
if* |
| 11:07 |
thexyz |
oh, yeah, that's like what I have per day |
| 11:07 |
VanessaE |
as for how much time, more than I can remember (but I coded 99% of it by hand) |
| 11:08 |
DanDuncombe |
Also, on TPT website, I hadn't even noticed the ads anyway. |
| 11:08 |
VanessaE |
either way, bandwidth is cheap and the web was NOT meant for ads. |
| 11:08 |
DanDuncombe |
VanessaE, am I on your server now? |
| 11:08 |
VanessaE |
lemme check |
| 11:08 |
DanDuncombe |
It says I am but I'm not. |
| 11:08 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: you're wrong |
| 11:09 |
DanDuncombe |
I am always right. I order you to agree now. |
| 11:09 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: so, I've built a website; and now I want to earn some moniez from it because I spent my time building it (and time == money), what do I do? |
| 11:09 |
VanessaE |
DanDuncombe: yep, I see you online there |
| 11:10 |
DanDuncombe |
thexyz: You buy some money. |
| 11:10 |
thexyz |
let's say this website is quite useful and gathers about 3k unique visitors per day who spend 11min average on the site |
| 11:10 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: how about...get a real job like the rest of the world does? (this is not to imply you don't already have one) |
| 11:10 |
thexyz |
(or is that per visit?) |
| 11:10 |
VanessaE |
in other words, time most definitely does NOT equal money unless you choose to equate it. |
| 11:11 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: yeah, I have one; but I built this site and now it just eats my monies, so what's the reason to keep it? |
| 11:11 |
PenguinDad |
thexyz: use flattr and paypal :P |
| 11:12 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: there are a thousand reasons you could come up with to keep a website that costs you money, it's not like I can speak for you personally. |
| 11:12 |
thexyz |
PenguinDad: yay, I have paypal donate button, but it doesn't even cover hosting costs |
| 11:12 |
VanessaE |
I keep MY website because it works better for me than any other option. $10/mo is a worthwhile cost for me. |
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| 11:13 |
thexyz |
it serves about 1 million pageviews per month btw |
| 11:13 |
VanessaE |
same reason some people have cable TV and others stick to OTA. |
| 11:13 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 11:13 |
VanessaE |
morning PA |
| 11:13 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: I don't get it though |
| 11:13 |
sfan5 |
hi PA |
| 11:13 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: also, can you link me to your hosting provider? |
| 11:13 |
PenguinDad |
Hi PilzAdam |
| 11:13 |
thexyz |
I'm interested in free unlimited bandwith |
| 11:14 |
DanDuncombe |
VanessaE: There is a load of lava where I am, is it intentional? |
| 11:14 |
thexyz |
so many funny things to do |
| 11:14 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: hostgator.com, whom I believe is actually a reseller. |
| 11:14 |
sfan5 |
ugh, hostgator |
| 11:14 |
VanessaE |
DanDuncombe: most of that is, yes |
| 11:14 |
VanessaE |
tI think |
| 11:14 |
DanDuncombe |
Ok |
| 11:14 |
VanessaE |
-t |
| 11:14 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: they only offer "free bandwith" for "web hosting" |
| 11:14 |
VanessaE |
hm, maybe not |
| 11:15 |
VanessaE |
yes, and? |
| 11:15 |
DanDuncombe |
Thanks for adding the prefab mod, BTW. |
| 11:15 |
VanessaE |
sure, no prob. |
| 11:15 |
thexyz |
though I love "unlimited disk space" |
| 11:16 |
thexyz |
I can make a file hosting and pay 3.96$/month, for reals? |
| 11:16 |
thexyz |
fuck mega, fuck dropbox |
| 11:16 |
VanessaE |
I use it for file hosting and regular webhosting and they've never complained. |
| 11:16 |
thexyz |
no, wait |
| 11:16 |
VanessaE |
not that I use a metric fuckload of bandwidth like mega does. |
| 11:17 |
thexyz |
https://gist.github.com/xyzz/f8cb46a7c8c60f584f31 |
| 11:17 |
thexyz |
image hostings are disallowed |
| 11:17 |
thexyz |
even MUDs/RPGs are disallowed |
| 11:17 |
thexyz |
seriously? |
| 11:17 |
VanessaE |
maybe on the cheapest plan I guess, of course I don't use mine for that |
| 11:18 |
thexyz |
anyway, VanessaE, please stop claiming that hosting is cheap |
| 11:18 |
VanessaE |
look, I used to SELL hosting plans. |
| 11:18 |
VanessaE |
I know how cheap it is. |
| 11:18 |
thexyz |
> Examples of unacceptable material on all Shared and Reseller servers include |
| 11:18 |
thexyz |
*all* |
| 11:18 |
VanessaE |
maybe where YOU are from it costs out the ass, but not everywhere. |
| 11:19 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: okay, so how about 1 gbps dedicated bandwidth? |
| 11:19 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, is there a reason why several entries are 2 times in that list? |
| 11:19 |
VanessaE |
been too long since I did it. |
| 11:20 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: there are two lists |
| 11:20 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: oh, that's bad |
| 11:20 |
thexyz |
yeah, hosting is crazy cheap for my-kitten-websites |
| 11:20 |
PilzAdam |
oh, right |
| 11:21 |
thexyz |
but gather some visitors and you'll notice that neither free space nor free bandwith exist |
| 11:22 |
* VanessaE |
sighs |
| 11:22 |
thexyz |
yeah, yeah, now point me to a real free space OR free bandwith hosting plan to render my argument invalid |
| 11:22 |
thexyz |
I don't even ask for both! |
| 11:23 |
VanessaE |
when did I say free? |
| 11:23 |
thexyz |
*unlimited? |
| 11:24 |
thexyz |
oh, you said it's cheap |
| 11:24 |
thexyz |
alright, so |
| 11:24 |
thexyz |
how cheap is cheap? |
| 11:24 |
VanessaE |
to me, $10/mo is cheap. |
| 11:24 |
DanDuncombe |
Does anyone have the ability to export blends as .x, apart from Jordach? |
| 11:24 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: no, no, how I'm talking about bandwith |
| 11:25 |
thexyz |
this "hostgator" is bad, its list of disallowed things is way too long |
| 11:25 |
thexyz |
and we're talking about websites in general, aren't we? |
| 11:25 |
DanDuncombe |
If someone can export it,can they change this to .x please? No animations wanted. https://www.dropbox.com/s/2ognar0svx0kvmq/barge.blend |
| 11:26 |
DanDuncombe |
It is quite simple. |
| 11:26 |
DanDuncombe |
It's just I can't export .x with Blender on my laptop. |
| 11:27 |
DanDuncombe |
Please, anyone? |
| 11:28 |
VanessaE |
hm, looks to be about 2c per GB in larger quantities |
| 11:28 |
thexyz |
how much is "larger quantities"? |
| 11:29 |
VanessaE |
hard to find much data but the one site I found with some good numbers lists a 500TB commit, presumably that's the ISP's contract price for their peering arrangement. |
| 11:29 |
DanDuncombe |
Please, someone? |
| 11:30 |
VanessaE |
DanDuncombe: about all I know there is you have to load a plugin into blender to get .x exporting support |
| 11:30 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: 500TB is way too much for my imaginary site |
| 11:30 |
DanDuncombe |
It is built in, but you have to enable it in User Preferences. |
| 11:30 |
VanessaE |
for the ISP I said. as in their price, not yours. |
| 11:30 |
DanDuncombe |
But opening User Preferences doesn't work for me. |
| 11:31 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: oh, okay, it'll cost even more for me |
| 11:31 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: so what's wrong with website owners putting ads? |
| 11:31 |
VanessaE |
roughly double that from what I've been seeing. |
| 11:31 |
thexyz |
once again |
| 11:31 |
thexyz |
I forgot it |
| 11:31 |
VanessaE |
what's wrong? everything. |
| 11:31 |
thexyz |
for example? |
| 11:32 |
VanessaE |
there are enough G*d damned ads in every other piece and form of media out there, for one |
| 11:32 |
thexyz |
I mean, I spent time building this site, so what's wrong if I earn some money from it? |
| 11:32 |
VanessaE |
for two, if the cost of your hypothetical website exceeds what you're willing to shell out per billing cycle, then you should probably be selling useful stuff through that site, not serving up ads. |
| 11:33 |
VanessaE |
THAT is my point. |
| 11:33 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: it's a "free" website |
| 11:33 |
VanessaE |
I don't have a problem with websites that sell stuff. |
| 11:33 |
thexyz |
there's nothing to buy here |
| 11:34 |
thexyz |
let's say it's just a website about kittens, or news, or something |
| 11:34 |
VanessaE |
somehow, the internet seemed to function *just fine* without tons of ads before. |
| 11:34 |
VanessaE |
what changed? |
| 11:34 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: it got popular? |
| 11:34 |
thexyz |
I also don't see "tons of ads" on the page DanDuncombe linked here |
| 11:34 |
thexyz |
there's one tiny google ad |
| 11:35 |
VanessaE |
then according to economy of scale, shouldn't a popular service/product eventually cost *less* to produce over time? |
| 11:35 |
VanessaE |
I didn't see the ad, I was quoting something at the top of the page,. |
| 11:35 |
VanessaE |
-, |
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| 11:36 |
DanDuncombe |
Can someone please export the .blend as .x, please. |
| 11:37 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: I don't get this "economy of scale" reference; for sure, connection is faster those days, and traffic is cheaper, I suppose |
| 11:37 |
DanDuncombe |
Who thinks Mt should be able to use .blend files, as well as .x? |
| 11:37 |
thexyz |
but that's not the point |
| 11:38 |
Calinou |
it can't |
| 11:38 |
thexyz |
it still costs |
| 11:38 |
Calinou |
.blend isn't made for being used in games |
| 11:38 |
Calinou |
.x does what we need |
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| 11:38 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: it's a phrase used here to decribe the general fact that the more popular something gets, the more of that something you can make with each batch (or whatever your production method is), and the cheaper it gets. |
| 11:38 |
thexyz |
so, if you're fine with spending your personal money on a site you already spend your personal time on and then get nothing off it it's ok |
| 11:38 |
* Jordach |
needs a reboot |
| 11:39 |
Jordach |
i hibernated it |
| 11:39 |
DanDuncombe |
Jordach, have you exported the .blend yet? Sorry to be impatient. |
| 11:39 |
Jordach |
nope |
| 11:39 |
Jordach |
i just got out of bed |
| 11:39 |
thexyz |
but don't say that ads are evil; it's the only way to make site profitable in many cases |
| 11:39 |
VanessaE |
did I say ads were evil? |
| 11:39 |
VanessaE |
no. |
| 11:40 |
VanessaE |
I said we have too damned many of them as it is. |
| 11:40 |
thexyz |
well, yeah, and there's a reason for it |
| 11:40 |
VanessaE |
my site is profitable, and I don't even sell anything through it anymore. |
| 11:40 |
VanessaE |
(I used to, that's the reason I have my own domain to begin with) |
| 11:41 |
thexyz |
that's good for you |
| 11:41 |
Jordach |
okay, no re-boot then (screen resolution went wrong) |
| 11:41 |
DanDuncombe |
Jordach, when will it be exported? I really am not meaning to be imapatient, it's just I need it for the next release of the prefab mod. |
| 11:42 |
thexyz |
but web as we know it wouldn't happen without ads |
| 11:42 |
thexyz |
(my personal opinion without facts) |
| 11:42 |
VanessaE |
you know what they say about opinions....;) |
| 11:43 |
DanDuncombe |
PilzAdam, which bit of your boats mod defines the forward speed? |
| 11:44 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: yeah, so you don't agree with it? |
| 11:45 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: the web could still have developed to the point we have it at today with or without ads. |
| 11:45 |
DanDuncombe |
PilzAdam, I mean, which bit defines the maximum soeed? |
| 11:46 |
VanessaE |
does that mean the big sites would necessarily be as fast or able to handle as many users as they do? |
| 11:46 |
VanessaE |
of course not. |
| 11:46 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: I don't think it could |
| 11:46 |
VanessaE |
but to speculate that the web could not have happened without ads... just doesn't follow. |
| 11:46 |
thexyz |
it wouldn't be profitable to make websites |
| 11:46 |
VanessaE |
(sorry, getting too tired to find my words now) |
| 11:46 |
thexyz |
so no one would invest into it |
| 11:46 |
VanessaE |
why not? |
| 11:47 |
thexyz |
only sites that sell something would survive |
| 11:47 |
VanessaE |
I didn't use a single ad (as we're defining them here, obviously) on my site nor in any other site. Just info releases once in a great while when I made something new. |
| 11:48 |
VanessaE |
and even if I weren't still making a little money (not much, 10 or 20 bucks a month tops), I'd keep it running because the cost to me is outweighed by the benefit I figure it has to others. |
| 11:48 |
VanessaE |
(yeah yeah, insert "cut the altruistic bullshit" comment here) |
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| 11:49 |
thexyz |
yes please |
| 11:49 |
VanessaE |
but that's how I was raised. Not everything has to have a price associated with it. |
| 11:49 |
thexyz |
see, you know that "altruistic bullshit" doesn't apply to Big Corps |
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| 11:50 |
VanessaE |
(pissed my stepdad off to no end, he felt exactly the opposite. To him, every act worth doing was somehow expected to have some monetary value) |
| 11:50 |
Jordach |
logged in via SASL :) |
| 11:51 |
thexyz |
and "Not everything has to have a price associated with it." is true, but are you seriously going to work for free? |
| 11:51 |
DanDuncombe |
Jordach, how long till the blend is exported? |
| 11:52 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: do you see me charging money for the things I do? |
| 11:52 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: no, I mean, imagine this being your only job |
| 11:52 |
VanessaE |
(aside from the aforementioned hardware residuals, which obviously has a cost) |
| 11:52 |
thexyz |
this == making websites which don't make any revenue |
| 11:53 |
VanessaE |
*facepalm* |
| 11:53 |
VanessaE |
no one said you can't charge for your work, jeez |
| 11:53 |
thexyz |
of course you can but who will you charge? |
| 11:54 |
VanessaE |
oh I don't know, maybe the clients who contract out to you to make those sites? |
| 11:55 |
VanessaE |
unless we're talking about two different things here, your argument just isn't making much sense. |
| 11:55 |
VanessaE |
(or I'm too damn tired to "get it") |
| 11:56 |
thexyz |
you don't have clients =( |
| 11:56 |
thexyz |
because it's not profitable to make sites on the internet since there are no ads |
| 11:56 |
VanessaE |
who pays for a website to be made if they don't expect to derive profit from it? |
| 11:57 |
Calinou |
<thexyz> but web as we know it wouldn't happen without ads |
| 11:57 |
Calinou |
suddenly: adblock 8D |
| 11:57 |
Calinou |
it's simple, people who want to view ads can. |
| 11:57 |
VanessaE |
I mean shit, we already have a ton of websites out there whose sole purpose is to farm out ads based on perceived searches (you know, those dumbass "What you need, when you need it" link farms) |
| 11:57 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: aren't we talking about web-without-ads? |
| 11:58 |
VanessaE |
yes, we are. Either you have a product to sell, or a service to sell, or you put up ads. |
| 11:58 |
VanessaE |
guess which one of those three methods of making money is the least egregious to pretty much anyone? |
| 11:58 |
VanessaE |
s/least/mods/ |
| 11:58 |
thexyz |
what if I neither have a product nor a service? |
| 11:58 |
VanessaE |
fuck |
| 11:59 |
VanessaE |
s/least/most/ |
| 11:59 |
DanDuncombe |
Jordach, how long until I can have the .x? |
| 11:59 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: "content farms" are less efficient these days, and are likely to disappear soon. |
| 11:59 |
VanessaE |
if you have neither a product nor a service, and you still expect profit, you're clearly in the wrong field. |
| 11:59 |
thexyz |
I mean, this is a website with kitten photos, or any free product |
| 11:59 |
thexyz |
I'm not expecting profit |
| 11:59 |
thexyz |
but wait |
| 11:59 |
VanessaE |
you, the person coding the site, or you, the person RUNNING the site? |
| 12:00 |
thexyz |
I'm a service; I'm not "selling a service" |
| 12:00 |
thexyz |
s/a/have/ |
| 12:00 |
thexyz |
shit, wrong replacement |
| 12:01 |
thexyz |
I don't want to live in the world without ads -( |
| 12:01 |
DanDuncombe |
Please, Jordach? |
| 12:01 |
VanessaE |
lemme rephrase - you as in the guy writing the website for Joe Random Kitten Owner, or you as Joe Random Kitten Owner wanting to put his pictures online? |
| 12:01 |
thexyz |
all websites which don't sell products or service would vanish |
| 12:01 |
Jordach |
thexyz, suddenly: free website hosts |
| 12:01 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: the latter |
| 12:01 |
VanessaE |
disappear!? |
| 12:02 |
thexyz |
Jordach: you don't follow the conversation |
| 12:02 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: oh, apart from ones owned by altruistic people |
| 12:02 |
DanDuncombe |
Jordach, could you please do the export now? |
| 12:03 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: you as Joe Random Kitten Owner who wants to put his pictures online surely doesn't expect to draw a profit from such a thing, less'n you're selling kitten calendars or something of course. |
| 12:03 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: if there're ads then sure I do |
| 12:03 |
VanessaE |
in which case you either pay for your hosting service like the rest of us or you sell something on the side. |
| 12:05 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: so at the end of the day, if you put any effort into something at all, you expect a profit? |
| 12:05 |
Jordach |
DanDuncombe, Borderlands 2 > The Universe, and EVERYTHING |
| 12:05 |
DanDuncombe |
Errm? |
| 12:06 |
DanDuncombe |
How long till the export? |
| 12:06 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: no, I mean, many won't even put any effort if they don't expect a profit |
| 12:06 |
VanessaE |
DanDuncombe: just so you know, .x isn't the only model format Minetest can use (by way of irrlicht) |
| 12:06 |
DanDuncombe |
SHouldn't it only take ~2 minutes? |
| 12:06 |
thexyz |
they need money to eat, for example |
| 12:06 |
DanDuncombe |
VanessaE, what else can it use? |
| 12:06 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: then they can...oh I dunno... get a job? |
| 12:07 |
DanDuncombe |
Apart from b3d |
| 12:07 |
VanessaE |
DanDuncombe: check the Irrlicht website, the main page lists the formats. |
| 12:07 |
DanDuncombe |
Okay, thanks. |
| 12:07 |
VanessaE |
afaik, MT can load any of the listed formats |
| 12:07 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: one of us doesn't follow a conversation |
| 12:07 |
thexyz |
let me explain it once again |
| 12:07 |
thexyz |
all those people get jobs instead of making websites |
| 12:07 |
VanessaE |
no, don't. |
| 12:07 |
thexyz |
…shall I continue? |
| 12:07 |
VanessaE |
I follow perfectly fine. |
| 12:08 |
thexyz |
oh, then you're trolling |
| 12:08 |
VanessaE |
no, not at all. |
| 12:08 |
VanessaE |
again, I'm tired as hell, my words are not coming out right. |
| 12:08 |
VanessaE |
look, either you expect a profit from a website you run, or you don't. |
| 12:09 |
VanessaE |
and if you expect a profit, either that profit must come from ads, or selling a product, or selling a service. |
| 12:09 |
thexyz |
yeah, and most big website owners do |
| 12:09 |
VanessaE |
and we're not talking about bit websites. |
| 12:09 |
VanessaE |
we are, as you said yourself, talking about Joe Random Kitten Owner. |
| 12:09 |
thexyz |
why? |
| 12:10 |
thexyz |
oh |
| 12:10 |
VanessaE |
big* |
| 12:10 |
thexyz |
so, it's ok for big websites to have ads and not ok for small |
| 12:10 |
thexyz |
I get it now |
| 12:10 |
thexyz |
(actually not) |
| 12:10 |
VanessaE |
did I say that? |
| 12:10 |
VanessaE |
no. |
| 12:10 |
thexyz |
and I thought we were talking about the internet-without-ads |
| 12:11 |
VanessaE |
we are, but clearly focused on the small end of things. |
| 12:11 |
VanessaE |
but, the model still works regardless of your website's size. |
| 12:11 |
VanessaE |
look at Google. they make money on ads, yeah, but now they're getting into selling a useful service - internet access. |
| 12:12 |
thexyz |
but would Google happen in the web-without-ads? |
| 12:12 |
Calinou |
useful and insanely fast service, for once :P |
| 12:12 |
Calinou |
if only they did it in my city :P |
| 12:12 |
VanessaE |
as I recall, they were not exactly inundated with ads when they got their start back in the mid 90's |
| 12:12 |
VanessaE |
nor were most of the other popular search engines. |
| 12:13 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: as I understand, they've been satisfied with the outcome so far in Kansas City and have been expanding a bit here and there. |
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| 12:14 |
sdzen |
hey is there a minetest.register_on_startup? |
| 12:14 |
sdzen |
or similar? |
| 12:14 |
thexyz |
minetest.after |
| 12:14 |
VanessaE |
not sure, but I don't think so (there was some recent talk to add such a thing though, wasn't there?) |
| 12:15 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: wait, I thought google doesn't make money from their internet access service |
| 12:16 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: they must be making something from it, as it's a clean pipe. |
| 12:16 |
thexyz |
and as this page http://www.wordstream.com/articles/most-expensive-keywords states 97% is from ads |
| 12:16 |
VanessaE |
well no shit, I said that already. |
| 12:16 |
VanessaE |
when they got started, they didn't sell or use ads that I remember ever seeing |
| 12:16 |
VanessaE |
neither did hardly anyone else |
| 12:17 |
thexyz |
and do you think they would be able to continue without putting on ads? |
| 12:17 |
VanessaE |
I'm sure they went with ads because it's simply the low-hanging fruit. |
| 12:17 |
VanessaE |
they could have found a legit way to make money if they really wanted to. |
| 12:17 |
kaeza |
iqualfragile, DanDuncombe this thing is cool |
| 12:17 |
thexyz |
oh, yeah, sure |
| 12:18 |
thexyz |
of course the could |
| 12:18 |
thexyz |
sure, sure |
| 12:18 |
thexyz |
they just had to think more |
| 12:18 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 12:18 |
VanessaE |
they probably already knew of other ways |
| 12:18 |
VanessaE |
they chose what they chose because it's the cheapest and simplest way to make money |
| 12:19 |
VanessaE |
from a business perspective, it makes perfect sense. |
| 12:19 |
VanessaE |
but that doesn't stop people from hating on them, especially since they bought doubleclick. |
| 12:19 |
VanessaE |
(and whoever else in the meantime, I've lost track) |
| 12:20 |
VanessaE |
In fact I generally don't mind their ads popping up here and there. |
| 12:20 |
VanessaE |
(figuratively speaking) |
| 12:20 |
VanessaE |
eh, popping up....wrong word to use. |
| 12:20 |
VanessaE |
"showing up". |
| 12:20 |
VanessaE |
I don't go out of my way to block them. |
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| 12:21 |
VanessaE |
I go out of my way to block pretty much everything else, because pretty much everything else distracts my eyes from the content I came to the site to read in the first place. |
| 12:22 |
VanessaE |
you wanna stick some little unobtrusive ad off in a corner where it won't sit there jiggling, flashing, making audible noise, or floating over the content, fine. I'll simply ignore it. |
| 12:22 |
VanessaE |
even the ads at the top of some of google's search results don't bother me. |
| 12:23 |
sdzen |
08:23:25: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: /usr/share/minetest/builtin/misc.lua:17: attempt to call field 'func' (a number value) |
| 12:23 |
sdzen |
:( |
| 12:23 |
VanessaE |
but the moment you try to take my eyes off the content I came to read, especially forcibly via a popover, floater, whatever the hell else they call it, that's when I add a rule to my list (if adblockplus doesn't already catch it) |
| 12:25 |
VanessaE |
when I want something, I'll go look for it explicitly via google shopping, eBay, pricewatch, etc. |
| 12:25 |
DanDuncombe |
How do I make an entity in Mt have a texture? It is just grey, and won't use the texture I tell it to. |
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DanDuncombe |
Jordach,do you know? |
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sdzen |
nevermind the error |
| 12:32 |
sdzen |
I got around it |
| 12:32 |
* VanessaE |
falls asleep |
| 12:33 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
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| 12:39 |
DanDuncombe |
Has the intense argument about ads stopped? |
| 12:41 |
thexyz |
yeah, VanessaE fell asleep |
| 12:42 |
thexyz |
I CONSIDER THIS AS WINNING |
| 12:42 |
DanDuncombe |
Jordach, have you mapped and exported it yet? |
| 12:45 |
iqualfragile |
wohoo! sdl2! |
| 12:48 |
DanDuncombe |
JORDACH, IS IT EXPORTED YET? |
| 12:49 |
* kaeza |
slaps iqualfragile with Allegro and runs off |
| 12:50 |
kaeza |
Allegro 4; Allegro 5 sucks |
| 12:52 |
DanDuncombe |
PLease can someone export the bloody file as .x. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!! |
| 12:53 |
PilzAdam |
DanDuncombe, why dont you do it yourself? |
| 12:53 |
DanDuncombe |
I can't |
| 12:53 |
DanDuncombe |
I can't open User Preferences without Blender crashing |
| 12:54 |
PilzAdam |
would you mind being less annyoing? |
| 12:54 |
DanDuncombe |
Yes, I would mind. Can someone please export it NOW? |
| 12:54 |
Calinou |
no u |
| 12:55 |
jin_xi |
annyong! |
| 12:56 |
DanDuncombe |
Never mind. |
| 12:57 |
PilzAdam |
"Be patient when you ask something, people might not be arround" http://minetest.net/irc |
| 12:57 |
DanDuncombe |
You are around. |
| 12:58 |
PilzAdam |
have you read the first part of that sentence? |
| 12:58 |
thexyz |
IT REALLY DOES SAY ARROUND |
| 12:58 |
thexyz |
fuck |
| 12:58 |
PilzAdam |
also, its probably way faster to fix your blender than waiting for others to export it |
| 12:58 |
PilzAdam |
just ask ixquick.com |
| 12:59 |
DanDuncombe |
But no Blender version has ever worked for me. |
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PenguinDad |
UTFSE |
| 13:00 |
PilzAdam |
bbl |
| 13:00 |
PenguinDad |
maybe it helps you |
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PenguinDad |
hi Peacock |
| 13:08 |
Peacock |
howdy |
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Peacock |
Peacock.makeCoffee() |
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DanDuncombe |
local function(peacock.makeCoffee{pos , node}), |
| 13:11 |
thexyz |
what language is that? |
| 13:12 |
proller |
cocklang 0.1 |
| 13:12 |
Peacock |
the second or the first statement? |
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thexyz |
second, obviously |
| 13:12 |
Peacock |
weird ive never seen a function encloses its arguments with {} |
| 13:13 |
PenguinDad |
PenguinDad:drinkCoffee() |
| 13:13 |
thexyz |
yeah, that's why i'm asking |
| 13:13 |
Peacock |
wait, what the... yeah that makes no sense lol |
| 13:13 |
thexyz |
though wait |
| 13:13 |
thexyz |
it makes sense in Lua |
| 13:13 |
jin_xi |
cant lua omit () with string or table arg? |
| 13:13 |
thexyz |
you can A{1, 2}, that'll be equal to A({1, 2}) |
| 13:13 |
thexyz |
same for strings, yeah |
| 13:13 |
Peacock |
function() yeah, makeCoffee{} though? |
| 13:14 |
proller |
it was in perl in 198* 8) |
| 13:14 |
Peacock |
you can do alot of funky things in lua, but a one line multi-dim add to a table, you cannot lol |
| 13:14 |
thexyz |
I thought that'd look cool in stress, for example, pos{1, 2, 3} will give you a "smart" pos which can sum, sub, mul, etc, etc.. |
| 13:15 |
DanDuncombe |
In GIMP can you select an area of an image, copy,and paste it elsewhere? |
| 13:15 |
thexyz |
Peacock: what's a "one line multi-dim add to a table"? |
| 13:15 |
Calinou |
yes you can, DanDuncombe |
| 13:15 |
Calinou |
select, Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V, move selection :P |
| 13:15 |
Peacock |
thats when you do what i tried yesterday table[123][123][321] = true |
| 13:16 |
thexyz |
Peacock: but you can do that |
| 13:16 |
Peacock |
ittl throw an index error |
| 13:16 |
jin_xi |
thexyz: are you keeping stress uptodate and using it for serious mods? |
| 13:16 |
thexyz |
you just have to override __newindex |
| 13:16 |
kaeza |
peacock because table[123][123] is nil |
| 13:16 |
thexyz |
jin_xi: I'm still thinking about its design |
| 13:16 |
kaeza |
so you cannot access table[123][123][321] |
| 13:17 |
thexyz |
kaeza: you can |
| 13:17 |
kaeza |
(actually because table[123]) |
| 13:17 |
Peacock |
yeah you have to do table[123] = {}, table[123][123]= {}, table[123][123][321] = true |
| 13:17 |
kaeza |
+is nil |
| 13:17 |
thexyz |
you override __newindex and make it create a table when it doesn't exist |
| 13:17 |
Peacock |
override __newindex? |
| 13:17 |
kaeza |
thexyz, clever |
| 13:17 |
thexyz |
metatables are cool |
| 13:17 |
thexyz |
that's why you should love Lua |
| 13:18 |
Peacock |
metatables, i read about that for lua classes |
| 13:18 |
thexyz |
it's simple yet powerful |
| 13:18 |
thexyz |
Peacock: they can be used for many things |
| 13:18 |
kaeza |
indeed |
| 13:19 |
thexyz |
also, closures are powerful as well |
| 13:19 |
jin_xi |
im surprised how much i like lua |
| 13:19 |
Peacock |
any code examples on stackex or else where? |
| 13:19 |
thexyz |
you can use them for classes and then get methods like `object.function()` work as you want it to |
| 13:19 |
kaeza |
you can implement classes (with inheritance and all) with metatables |
| 13:19 |
thexyz |
(i.e. function() will know about object) |
| 13:19 |
jin_xi |
only "learnt" it for use with mt |
| 13:19 |
thexyz |
without : |
| 13:19 |
Peacock |
cuz i gots http://www.lua.org/pil/13.4.2.html |
| 13:19 |
kaeza |
Peacock, http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.8 |
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thexyz |
Peacock: http://lua-users.org/wiki/ObjectOrientationTutorial |
| 13:21 |
Peacock |
hm, interesting |
| 13:23 |
Peacock |
how i got nickbans and ip-range bans to work yesterday: http://pastebin.com/cj18Lwnt |
| 13:24 |
Peacock |
(the readfile code is very old lol) |
| 13:25 |
DanDuncombe |
How does this look for a concrete barge? http://s11.postimg.org/75n9bqew3/screenshot_75577957.png |
| 13:27 |
proller |
fuuuu, old liquid 8) |
| 13:28 |
Peacock |
dan you got those funny air pockets that don't go away either? |
| 13:28 |
DanDuncombe |
Yep |
| 13:28 |
Peacock |
i added the two lines PA suggested, but that only took care of the surface air pockets |
| 13:28 |
DanDuncombe |
What do you mean proller |
| 13:28 |
Peacock |
underwater ones still stick around |
| 13:28 |
DanDuncombe |
I don't mind them |
| 13:28 |
Peacock |
(two lines minetest.conf) |
| 13:28 |
proller |
DanDuncombe, underwater bubbles |
| 13:28 |
Peacock |
its irritating my ocd lol |
| 13:28 |
DanDuncombe |
I reminds me of farts in swimming pools. |
| 13:29 |
DanDuncombe |
*It |
| 13:29 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 13:30 |
Peacock |
the nodes with use_texture_alpha, they tend to flicked when placed against or in water, is that to be expected? |
| 13:30 |
Peacock |
*flicker |
| 13:33 |
DanDuncombe |
What do you guys think of the concrete barge? |
| 13:33 |
Peacock |
could use more sea chanties :P |
| 13:33 |
DanDuncombe |
Sea chanties? |
| 13:36 |
Peacock |
well it looks like a boat :P tried it with the airship mod? |
| 13:36 |
DanDuncombe |
Airship mod? |
| 13:36 |
Peacock |
makes the whole thing move |
| 13:36 |
DanDuncombe |
I mean, why? |
| 13:36 |
DanDuncombe |
It is an entity |
| 13:37 |
Peacock |
the whole thing is already an entity? |
| 13:37 |
DanDuncombe |
A single thing. |
| 13:37 |
DanDuncombe |
The whole thing is one big entity, yes. |
| 13:37 |
Peacock |
not bad |
| 13:38 |
DanDuncombe |
It is meant to look like nodesI think. I found it on the forum, on an old post with the boats mod. |
| 13:41 |
DanDuncombe |
VanessaE: Prefab mod update |
| 13:52 |
sdzen |
worldedit question, how does one get 0.4.8? |
| 13:52 |
PenguinDad |
I think Microsoft named .Net so it wouldn't show up in a Unix directory listing. :D |
| 13:53 |
DanDuncombe |
When will 0.4.8 be out? I WANT IT NOW :) |
| 13:54 |
PenguinDad |
Minetest 0.4.8: Coming Real Soonâ„¢ |
| 13:54 |
sdzen |
:( |
| 13:54 |
sdzen |
then why do mods ALREADY REQUIRE IT! |
| 13:56 |
DanDuncombe |
Who thinks you should be able to make red furnaces out of desert stone? |
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Peacock |
some sort of bug with stainedglass/colouredglass set against water: http://s2.postimg.org/fi4bkuyux/screenshot_2012648318.png |
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DanDuncombe |
Who thinks Fallen Kingdom is a powerful and sad song? I do. |
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DanDuncombe |
This was long, long ago https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=500 |
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PilzAdam |
sfan5, ^ ban for bumping old topics |
| 14:20 |
DanDuncombe |
I didn't bump,I removed the post already. |
| 14:20 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: yeah, sure, I'll ban him for posting a link there |
| 14:20 |
sfan5 |
oh |
| 14:20 |
sfan5 |
wait |
| 14:20 |
DanDuncombe |
Did the mod work in the end? |
| 14:20 |
DanDuncombe |
sfna5? |
| 14:21 |
DanDuncombe |
*sfan5? |
| 14:21 |
sfan5 |
I you had seen my Coal Mod topic you would have seen that it did |
| 14:21 |
DanDuncombe |
The api looked so different back then... |
| 14:22 |
DanDuncombe |
How come this https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2 is id=2 and not id=1 |
| 14:23 |
sfan5 |
probably because the first topic ever got deleted because it was just a test? |
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thexyz |
the first topic is punbb "installation success" message |
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thexyz |
something like that |
| 14:26 |
sfan5 |
who has done something productive today? |
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* PenguinDad |
brings NekoGloop a fishy |
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* sfan5 |
throws a fish at NekoGloop |
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NekoGloop |
:3 |
| 14:26 |
NekoGloop |
All of the pings! ALL OF THEM! |
| 14:27 |
DanDuncombe |
I know there is already the Minetestmapper written in C++, but ot would be cool if someone wrote it as an .exe, which you click on to open, then check boxes for the various functions, select the world, type a map name and click a button called 'Map!' This would be so cool, and if possible should be included in default Windows Minetest, |
| 14:27 |
sfan5 |
"wrote it as an .exe" |
| 14:27 |
DanDuncombe |
I mean an app which you can open. |
| 14:27 |
NekoGloop |
Dan is stupid AND a troll |
| 14:27 |
DanDuncombe |
Rather than command line. |
| 14:27 |
sfan5 |
so you plan to use a hexeditor to place the plain binary code there |
| 14:28 |
sfan5 |
:D |
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* Tesseract |
drops a whale next to NekoGloop. |
| 14:28 |
DanDuncombe |
So: a GUI Minetest_mapper |
| 14:28 |
NekoGloop |
That's a really big fishy 83 |
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* sfan5 |
throws a kitten at DanDuncombe |
| 14:28 |
NekoGloop |
Don't waste the kittens! :< |
| 14:28 |
* sfan5 |
throws a kitten at NekoGloop |
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* DanDuncombe |
asks what is the problem with the suggestion? |
| 14:28 |
NekoGloop |
:3 |
| 14:29 |
sfan5 |
DanDuncombe: learn code and do it yourself |
| 14:29 |
NekoGloop |
sfan5, I just got up, does that count as productive? |
| 14:29 |
DanDuncombe |
I can't be bothered. |
| 14:29 |
Tesseract |
BTW I have a local reop with some improvements on the mapper. |
| 14:29 |
sfan5 |
NekoGloop: yes |
| 14:29 |
Tesseract |
(The C++ one) |
| 14:29 |
NekoGloop |
:3 |
| 14:29 |
DanDuncombe |
Did you call me a troll because of this? https://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=5529 |
| 14:30 |
sfan5 |
!title |
| 14:30 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Dan Duncombe's profile — Minetest Forums |
| 14:31 |
PenguinDad |
I think DanDuncombe means this https://forum.minetest.net/img/avatars/5529.png |
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DanDuncombe |
Yep, PenguinDad |
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thexyz |
we need an isometric mapper |
| 14:40 |
PilzAdam |
we have one, but its slow as hell and very buggy |
| 14:40 |
thexyz |
we don't need minetestmapper gui |
| 14:40 |
thexyz |
don't invest time in useless things |
| 14:40 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: I thought we have two at least |
| 14:41 |
PilzAdam |
I only know the one by you |
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thexyz |
oh, then you're wrong |
| 14:43 |
thexyz |
there are two versions 1) very slow 2) buggy and slow |
| 14:43 |
thexyz |
and then there's some mapper which uses Minetest engine to render map |
| 14:43 |
thexyz |
written by… Zeg9? |
| 14:44 |
PilzAdam |
oh yes |
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thexyz |
the idea is great I think |
| 14:45 |
PilzAdam |
its on our TODO list to move the mapper into core |
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| 14:45 |
DanDuncombe |
Which is correct? enable_fullscree = true, or enable_full_screen = true, |
| 14:45 |
DanDuncombe |
*enable_fullscreen |
| 14:45 |
PilzAdam |
so we can workarround the problem that there is not much support for leveldb in other languages |
| 14:46 |
thexyz |
and operating systems as well |
| 14:46 |
thexyz |
have fun building it for windows |
| 14:46 |
thexyz |
hint: you'll most likely need boost |
| 14:47 |
Calinou |
DanDuncombe: fullscreen |
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Tesseract |
DanDuncombe: Check minetest.conf.example before asking. |
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DanDuncombe |
so, enable_fullscren = true or fullscreen = true? |
| 14:50 |
PilzAdam |
look in minetest.conf.example |
| 14:51 |
DanDuncombe |
Found it. |
| 14:52 |
DanDuncombe |
That didn't work... |
| 14:52 |
DanDuncombe |
It is all weird and off-the-screen when true. |
| 14:54 |
DanDuncombe |
Now... What about concrete aeroplanes? |
| 14:57 |
Tesseract |
DanDuncombe: The width and height has to be set properly. |
| 14:57 |
DanDuncombe |
How, Tesseract? |
| 14:57 |
Tesseract |
minetest.conf.example |
| 14:59 |
DanDuncombe |
Is there any way of installing TinyCore Linux without cd? |
| 14:59 |
Tesseract |
DanDuncombe: It isn't even designed to be installed.. |
| 15:00 |
DanDuncombe |
Okay, how can I install it? |
| 15:00 |
DanDuncombe |
As a dual boot or even as a program |
| 15:00 |
PilzAdam |
"It isn't even designed to be installed.." "Okay, how can I install it?" |
| 15:01 |
PilzAdam |
someone needs to learn to read |
| 15:01 |
DanDuncombe |
Okay, what is the smallest OS available that works as dual-boot? |
| 15:01 |
DanDuncombe |
And is free |
| 15:02 |
PilzAdam |
you could just write your own os that prints "Hello World" with only some KiB |
| 15:02 |
thexyz |
DanDuncombe: kolibrios |
| 15:02 |
PilzAdam |
you probably already have a bootloader that can start it |
| 15:03 |
DanDuncombe |
I have dual-booted linux before if that is what you mean. |
| 15:04 |
DanDuncombe |
Which download do I go for with KolibriOS? |
| 15:05 |
DanDuncombe |
thexyz: Which download do I pick? |
| 15:08 |
Calinou |
le random unknown OS |
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Peacock |
bootloader = when kittens hide in your boots XD |
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sokomine |
might be a bit annoyed if you put your feet in :-) |
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* jin_xi |
puts a kitten in sokomines shoes |
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* sfan5 |
throws a kitten at jin_xi |
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* sokomine |
rescues the kitten and pats it |
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Peacock |
Did you know: when cats are upset at you, they either poop in your shoes, or on your bed :P |
| 15:20 |
Peacock |
never take long vacations |
| 15:20 |
Peacock |
alternatively: only buy cheap bed duvets |
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Peacock |
or whatever the english word is for those big things you cover your bed with |
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sfan5 |
kitten is the right word |
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noodles775 |
Hi! Any chance that minetestc55 in ppa:minetestdevs/stable could be copied to saucy? |
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Peacock |
i wouldn't want more than one cat though, litter-duty is a b!tch lol |
| 15:25 |
Peacock |
they eat so little, yet leave so much :/ |
| 15:26 |
Peacock |
if it were up to my wife, she'd bring home every stray cat |
| 15:27 |
Peacock |
"#Mugabe vows to continue "indigenisation" of Zimbabwe " == deindustrialization? |
| 15:31 |
Peacock |
that guy's been in power for what, 30 years now? lol |
| 15:35 |
rubenwardy |
Hi all |
| 15:35 |
Peacock |
"Obama's Privacy Reform Panel Will Report To ... the NSA" like cops investigating cops lol |
| 15:37 |
Peacock |
hey ruben |
| 15:37 |
Peacock |
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/Corn_beef_Reuben_sandwich.jpg |
| 15:43 |
rubenwardy |
I love corn beef |
| 15:43 |
rubenwardy |
I had it yesturday |
| 15:43 |
Peacock |
everytime i see your name it makes me think of that lol |
| 15:43 |
Peacock |
then i get hungry :( |
| 15:43 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 15:45 |
PenguinDad |
everytime i see rubenwardy's name it makes think of the food mod :( |
| 15:45 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 15:45 |
* rubenwardy |
loves food |
| 15:46 |
Peacock |
me too but i never eat much it doesn't sit well |
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sfan5 |
noodles775: ask the maintainer |
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noodles775 |
sfan5: will do. Thanks. |
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PenguinDad |
I found that on deviantart "Applejacks Dream": http://is.gd/Q4DYUK |
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DanDuncombe |
Help? I put all the files from the KolibriOS download on a cd, rebooted with the disk in the computer, and it started spinning. It then stopped and Windows booted. Why? |
| 15:51 |
DanDuncombe |
That is, how do I install kolibrios alongside Windows? |
| 15:52 |
sfan5 |
eh |
| 15:52 |
sfan5 |
have you googled? |
| 15:56 |
DanDuncombe |
I have found a way now. |
| 16:00 |
thexyz |
KOLIBRIOS ALMOST GOT ITS FIRST USER! |
| 16:01 |
sfan5 |
haha |
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Niften_ |
Anyone know of a working TP converter for Windows? |
| 16:07 |
Jordach |
Niften_, NO |
| 16:07 |
Jordach |
no* |
| 16:08 |
rubenwardy |
like this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5281 |
| 16:08 |
* Jordach |
gas played Borderlands 2 for 2 hours |
| 16:08 |
Jordach |
has* |
| 16:08 |
Niften_ |
Like that, but the download was deleted. |
| 16:08 |
Jordach |
Niften_, give me a bit, i might whip up some batch |
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Niften_ |
Okay, thanks Jordach. |
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Niften_ |
:) |
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webdesigner97 |
hi |
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sokomine |
hi |
| 16:11 |
webdesigner97 |
soko? great |
| 16:11 |
sfan5 |
hi |
| 16:11 |
Mallot1 |
hey guys :) |
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kaeza |
hi |
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Tesseract |
Niften_: How did the converter work? |
| 16:16 |
Niften_ |
Oh. |
| 16:16 |
Niften_ |
PIL failed to install. |
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Niften_ |
It says Python 2.7 isn't on the registry; yet it's in my C:\ |
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Niften_ |
C:\Python27 |
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thexyz |
reinstall |
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thexyz |
also, use pillow |
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* NekoGloop |
noms PilzAdam |
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Jordach |
did i just see a staffer re-join :P |
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JamesTait |
Jordach, that'd be me. :-/ $SOMETHING hung up, wasn't able to switch between apps at all. I blame Chromium. |
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JamesTait |
I hadn't realised that even though the display manager restarted, screen did not. |
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Jordach |
heh - X11 problems? |
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webdesigner97 |
anyone interested in testing my streetsmod's trafficlight? It's digilines based |
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DanDuncombe |
Does anyone know how to get internet in KalibriOS? |
| 17:00 |
webdesigner97 |
if so: 93.221.80.39 port 30401 |
| 17:00 |
webdesigner97 |
but I'm afk now, eating |
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Jordach |
webdesigner97, use 16px textures dammit |
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JamesTait |
Jordach, XMir, more likely. |
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webdesigner97 |
back in 20 min, sry |
| 17:02 |
Jordach |
JamesTait, ah |
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JamesTait |
But it was working fine until I installed Chromium, so I still blame Chromium. |
| 17:03 |
DanDuncombe |
What is the web browser called in KalibriOS? |
| 17:04 |
Calinou |
JamesTait: chromium ftw |
| 17:04 |
Calinou |
but well, staff hates new software, they all use debian stable :D |
| 17:04 |
Jordach |
DanDuncombe, iceweasel> |
| 17:05 |
DanDuncombe |
The browser is called iceweasel? |
| 17:05 |
Calinou |
rebranded firefox |
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JamesTait |
Calinou, true. I'm using the *old* XMir on the *old* Ubuntu Saucy. :-P |
| 17:06 |
DanDuncombe |
But I triedrunning 'firefox' and it said that program didn't exist. |
| 17:06 |
Calinou |
JamesTait: lel, XMir |
| 17:06 |
Calinou |
enjoy your lack of proprietary drivers |
| 17:07 |
JamesTait |
I am! |
| 17:07 |
Jordach |
Calinou: 1) Does minetest run? 2) Did you enjoy it? 3) Does it work as it should? |
| 17:07 |
JamesTait |
I'm thrilled to finally be rid of that useless pile of nvidia junk and actually have a boot screen that fits my display and virtual terminals again. |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
also, >staff >uses Ubuntu |
| 17:08 |
Calinou |
JamesTait: nouveau = 24 fps, nvidia = 690 fps |
| 17:08 |
Calinou |
on sauerbraten with max settings |
| 17:08 |
Calinou |
and only GL 3.1 instead of 4.4 |
| 17:08 |
JamesTait |
Calinou, I can do my job, I can watch videos, I can play minetest. I'm happy. ;) |
| 17:08 |
Calinou |
minetest at 20 FPS? |
| 17:09 |
Exio4 |
nouveau sucks, because nvidia wants that |
| 17:09 |
Exio4 |
if you want to use the opensource gpu driver, you need an AMD gpu, or an intel one |
| 17:09 |
* Jordach |
agrees |
| 17:09 |
Calinou |
or hire slaves to code nouveau for you |
| 17:10 |
JamesTait |
Calinou, minetest at 40fps, full-screen. Good enough for me. |
| 17:10 |
Jordach |
the only time i had to forcibly use nouveau was when i nvidia driver upgrade managed to remove the conf for x11 |
| 17:10 |
Jordach |
had a* |
| 17:10 |
Calinou |
while your card can do 80 easily? |
| 17:10 |
Calinou |
and with shaders and that stuff |
| 17:10 |
Calinou |
Jordach: fun fact: using nvidia-xconfig breaks stuff as of 13.04 for me |
| 17:10 |
Jordach |
Calinou, same here |
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DanDuncombe |
Can I get Minetest on Kalibrios do you think? |
| 17:12 |
JamesTait |
And 80fps gets me what? My eyes can't register frames that quickly. :) |
| 17:12 |
Calinou |
60 fps, yes |
| 17:12 |
Calinou |
and it ensures you don't drop below 60 fps |
| 17:12 |
Calinou |
minimum FPS do matter |
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JamesTait |
Had I been given more time I wouldn't be stuck with an nvidia card in the first place. I only ended up with this because my old laptop (ATI graphics) died 3 days before I started working for Canonical and I had to get a replacement fast. :-/ |
| 17:15 |
JamesTait |
With the weekend in between, mail order wasn't a realistic option, so I got the best laptop my money would buy from PC World. |
| 17:15 |
Calinou |
>started working for Canonical |
| 17:15 |
Calinou |
prepare for Jarate and Mad Milk throws |
| 17:16 |
webdesigner97 |
Jordach: I would need to redraw many textures, and I'm not going to do this because I'm bad at graphics. And I think that the textures look nice and aren't too big |
| 17:17 |
JamesTait |
Calinou, anyway, that was 3 years ago. The laptop has just about lasted and is due for replacement. No more nvidia for me! :) |
| 17:18 |
* Jordach |
wonders if most of the staff work for canonical |
| 17:18 |
JamesTait |
(Though when my wife inherits this laptop, she'll get nouveau and like it) |
| 17:18 |
Jordach |
a #ubuntu op got a staffer to k-line someone |
| 17:18 |
Calinou |
>wife >open source software |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
hopefully you don't have "hardcore gamer" friends |
| 17:19 |
JamesTait |
Not really. I know a few people who like to play a few games on their consoles. |
| 17:22 |
JamesTait |
Jordach, I don't know all the staff, but I'm the only one I know of who works for Canonical. |
| 17:22 |
Jordach |
huh |
| 17:22 |
JamesTait |
That's not to say there aren't others, though. |
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Calinou |
canonical, the only company to not be profitable and still hire people. :D |
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kaeza |
asdf |
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JamesTait |
Calinou, well, y'know, someone's got to do the work. ;) |
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* Jordach |
waves a copy of Linux Mint 15 in front of JamesTait |
| 17:28 |
Exio4 |
kaeza: azerty |
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* Jordach |
then gives NekoGloop a fishy |
| 17:29 |
* NekoGloop |
noms the fishy :3 |
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kaeza |
Exio4, dvorak |
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PenguinDad |
Neo2! |
| 17:29 |
Exio4 |
kaeza: qwerty |
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Jordach |
qwerty ftw |
| 17:29 |
* Calinou |
uses Xubuntu 13.04, and is one of the rare people to not have bugs with it |
| 17:29 |
Calinou |
according to most people :p |
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kaeza |
Calinou, kill Unity, 95% of bugs gone |
| 17:31 |
kaeza |
or at least you regain as much CPU time :P |
| 17:31 |
Jordach |
i call bullshit |
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Peacock |
i keep hearing how xfce is slower on ubuntu than any other dist (just hearsay, dont taze me bro) |
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Calinou |
hearsay, too much phoronix/reddit probably |
| 17:36 |
Calinou |
it's very fast; if it isn't, get a SSD |
| 17:37 |
Peacock |
ugh, maybe im old, but for me SSD's are for laptops and netbooks, since they tend to take a beating :p |
| 17:37 |
Calinou |
they aren't |
| 17:37 |
Calinou |
again hearsay... |
| 17:37 |
Peacock |
in any case, i want an external 5tb |
| 17:37 |
Calinou |
don't listen to people without veryfing their reputation |
| 17:37 |
Peacock |
if i did that i'd never vote |
| 17:37 |
Calinou |
doesn't exist, max capacity for non-enterprise is 4TB |
| 17:37 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 17:38 |
Peacock |
i know, im waiting for the 5tb lol |
| 17:38 |
Peacock |
too many rigs to start installing 1-2tbs in each |
| 17:39 |
Peacock |
and ill never open up the netbook to install anything (not that there's room) |
| 17:40 |
Jordach |
lol, netbook |
| 17:41 |
Peacock |
for 150$ cdn, hard to say no lol |
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Peacock |
do the conversion between pounds and cdn and check how much they cost over there :P |
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Jordach |
Tesseract, link me your tp converter please |
| 17:52 |
* Jordach |
has a headache |
| 17:52 |
* Jordach |
sticks on rainymood.com |
| 17:53 |
Peacock |
just a headache? lucky, i had a huge-ass migraine after having a Falling Skies type nightmare lol |
| 17:54 |
FreeFull |
Toilet paper converter? |
| 17:55 |
Peacock |
oh shit, my compact stairs work, i can make stairwells 5x1 with a floor height of 2.5 :D |
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FreeFull |
Peacock: What's good is a small SSD as the system drive and a large HDD for everything else |
| 17:56 |
Peacock |
yeah but w/ linux i find myself simply reinstalling the whole thing rather than waste half a weekend tackling any given problem lol |
| 17:56 |
Peacock |
nothing a new image won't fix |
| 17:57 |
Peacock |
especially when i had those glibc troubles with arch |
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Calinou |
FreeFull: if you don't need space, full SSD will do fine, and be less noisy |
| 17:58 |
FreeFull |
Calinou: HDDs aren't very loud nowadays |
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Peacock |
and a high enough RPM helps too |
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Calinou |
FreeFull: I mean 7200rpm oens |
| 17:59 |
Calinou |
5400rpm is only good at storage |
| 17:59 |
Calinou |
and I can stil hear a 5400rpm |
| 17:59 |
Calinou |
I care about noise, only noisy part of my PC is my graphics card :| |
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Jordach |
Calinou, that's because you have ears of a bat |
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Peacock |
mind you, i resintalled linux on a 7yr old 160gb more times than i can count decimal places in pi, so it lasted a while :p |
| 18:00 |
Calinou |
I don't destroy my ears by going to concerts and stuff |
| 18:00 |
Peacock |
fuck concerts lol screaming girls |
| 18:01 |
Peacock |
the sound system doesn't kill me, the little girls do lol |
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JamesTait |
Calinou, your graphics card is only noisy because of your zillion fps! :-P |
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* sokomine |
removes calinous graphics card from his pc and puts it next to it - there, quiet again! :-) |
| 18:02 |
Calinou |
yes and stuntrally runs at 5 FPS instead of 60 |
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sokomine |
play minetest. that ought to work very fine with your in-cpu-gpu |
| 18:04 |
Calinou |
I play more than one game, and Minetest certainly doesn't run at 60 FPS with AA/AF on an HD3000 |
| 18:04 |
JamesTait |
If gaming's your thing, I can totally understand going for the absolute best drivers possible that give you incredible frame rates. I used to have to use binary blobs for my wireless - I'm a pragmatist, I want my machine to work. |
| 18:05 |
Calinou |
the open source drivers could give competitive performance, but noone seems to care about it |
| 18:06 |
JamesTait |
But I'm not really a gamer, so I'd rather have a boot splash screen where I can actually see the text box where I enter my disk decryption passphrase, and have virtual terminals just in case, y'know, XMir or something crashes. The frame rate isn't what's important to me. |
| 18:06 |
JamesTait |
Horses for courses. |
| 18:06 |
Peacock |
aint touching this convo with a 20ft pole lol |
| 18:06 |
JamesTait |
Of course, if nvidia would stop being asses about it, everyone could benefit, but, y'know. |
| 18:06 |
FreeFull |
I am using open-source drivers right now because I got fed up with the propertiary crashiness |
| 18:06 |
sokomine |
aa/af? what's that? usually turning off shaders help |
| 18:06 |
FreeFull |
But they do have slower 3D |
| 18:08 |
Peacock |
gaming aside, the best graphics driver is also essential if all you have for a TV is actually a computer :p |
| 18:08 |
sokomine |
i'm using a celeron g1610 right now without an extra graphics card. runs fine and quiet under mt |
| 18:09 |
Calinou |
I disabled plymouth, and never use consoles |
| 18:09 |
Peacock |
plymouth? go pontiac :p |
| 18:10 |
Calinou |
and, lolencryption |
| 18:10 |
sokomine |
why that? tv does not demand much regarding graphics. unless it's hd and/or encrypted. but most of the time, with tv, the most important tool is the switch-sound-off-option in emergencies like advertisement |
| 18:10 |
Calinou |
there are consoles with nvidia, they're just ugly :P |
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Calinou |
sokomine: anti-aliasing/anisotropic filtering |
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JamesTait |
TV works better for me with nouveau than it ever did with nvidia. |
| 18:10 |
Calinou |
makes stuff look like how it's supposed to look, not have jagged edges and blurred textures |
| 18:10 |
Peacock |
true story: when Patrick Stewart dressed up as Locutus for the first time he said "I am Locutus of Borg, have you considered buying a Pontiac?" </random> |
| 18:10 |
Calinou |
>video accel with nouveau |
| 18:11 |
JamesTait |
I can actually plug a TV into the HDMI port and not have the laptop crash. |
| 18:11 |
Calinou |
HDMI user problems |
| 18:11 |
Calinou |
the H.264 of video outputs |
| 18:11 |
JamesTait |
And then flip windows over onto the TV from my laptop and back. |
| 18:12 |
webdesigner97 |
Anyone else interested in testting my trafficlight? |
| 18:12 |
JamesTait |
Never worked right under nvidia. I'm glad to be rid of it. |
| 18:12 |
Peacock |
i used to have a TV tuner card, but that was ancient stuff by now lol |
| 18:12 |
Peacock |
pre-torrent age |
| 18:12 |
JamesTait |
Anyway. |
| 18:12 |
JamesTait |
It's time I was helping my boys with their minetest mods. |
| 18:13 |
Calinou |
dinner, bye |
| 18:13 |
Peacock |
i was one of those guys who ripped obscure series and put them on the net :p |
| 18:13 |
JamesTait |
I'll probably be around later. |
| 18:14 |
sokomine |
ah. yes, there was some talk about antialiassing and such. don't know if it looks that much diffrent...at least not for me |
| 18:14 |
* JamesTait |
EODs. |
| 18:14 |
Peacock |
End Of ...? |
| 18:14 |
Jordach |
Discussion |
| 18:14 |
Peacock |
aahh lol |
| 18:14 |
* NekoGloop |
noms Jordach |
| 18:14 |
Peacock |
i thought something like E. Over Dose lol |
| 18:15 |
sokomine |
which mods are your boys developing? |
| 18:16 |
Peacock |
aaaaaaand, hes gone :p |
| 18:16 |
kaeza |
offtopic section is getting way too offtopic |
| 18:16 |
Peacock |
leave it be :p |
| 18:16 |
Peacock |
that shit would wind up in general otherwise |
| 18:16 |
Jordach |
offtopic is well, offtopic |
| 18:16 |
Peacock |
yeah, there aren't really degrees of offtopic :p |
| 18:17 |
kaeza |
Ragnar's last post should end up in a Web search engine |
| 18:17 |
* Jordach |
builds a desert island in blender |
| 18:17 |
Peacock |
ragnar is an exception :p |
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Jordach |
mhm |
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sokomine |
wow! found a nyan cat in my singleplayer world |
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mitori |
sokomine grats |
| 18:37 |
Jordach |
on the LogoSkyBlock server, i have my own nyan cat |
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Jordach |
can i just say one thing: if we want to see ragnar's shitty posts, we should put it in spoiler tags |
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sokomine |
i've never before found one |
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Jordach |
hello jcontra |
| 18:50 |
Jordach |
shirts selling well (if you're the person who is) |
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Jordach |
s/shirts/kickstarter |
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hoodedice |
Wanna see a joke |
| 19:07 |
hoodedice |
http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/google.com |
| 19:07 |
hoodedice |
Check privacy |
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Calinou |
well, it's not like there are 2 irrelevant criterias |
| 19:08 |
DanDuncombe |
Does anyone here know much batch? |
| 19:09 |
Calinou |
>2013 >batch |
| 19:10 |
DanDuncombe |
If so, what do I change in this to make it so it prompts you for the world name, and finished map name, then uses them? Also, I want it to be placeable in a folder called 'utils' and still work. |
| 19:10 |
DanDuncombe |
http://pastebin.com/jNX7ANB5 |
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DanDuncombe |
This is bad... the desktop itself has stopped responding. |
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PilzAdam |
*anypony |
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jcontra |
Jordach: Thanks :) We've met today's goal and need to sell two more to make tomorrow's goal :) |
| 19:17 |
Semilevel |
ponies |
| 19:18 |
Semilevel |
So what are you ponies up to? |
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Calinou |
wolfgame |
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babyface1031 |
hi |
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Calinou |
hi 3D torch |
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hoodedice |
grats jcontra |
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Peacock |
stairwells finished - cloud towers open for visits :-) |
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Peacock |
could almost use mini-protections where people can setup flats without modifying the building strcture |
| 19:29 |
jcontra |
hoodedice: thank you :) <plug>please consider picking up a shirt or two!</plug> |
| 19:30 |
hoodedice |
Peacock, Sweet ! |
| 19:30 |
Peacock |
the sub protection or the cloud towers being open? lol |
| 19:31 |
DanDuncombe |
What do you think? An exe for installing modster and nodebox generator. My first ever exe! Should I put it on the forum? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/2zl81rrqlahmd4t/minetest_tools_installer.EXE?token_hash=AAF7LaTneaUAcJiPIUABF37cNXf1BgSqUfTzazRwWHR_LA&dl=1 |
| 19:31 |
hoodedice |
The tower being made |
| 19:31 |
hoodedice |
-.- |
| 19:31 |
hoodedice |
Dan, sure why not? |
| 19:31 |
Peacock |
i havent done the 4x4 balconies yet, but for most intents, its done lol |
| 19:31 |
DanDuncombe |
Also, if someone does a gui minetestmapper for Windows, I will include it. |
| 19:34 |
DanDuncombe |
Or at least a batch file that prompts you for world name and map name. |
| 19:35 |
Calinou |
noone is likely to do that soon |
| 19:35 |
Calinou |
prompting is easier to do |
| 19:35 |
Peacock |
there are too few arguments to minetestmapper to warrant a gui |
| 19:35 |
DanDuncombe |
How to make a batch file then that asks for world name and map name then? |
| 19:35 |
Peacock |
basically input and output names that's it |
| 19:35 |
hoodedice |
Windoze users need GUI for every other thing |
| 19:35 |
Peacock |
though... with lua menus, it should be easy as pie |
| 19:36 |
DanDuncombe |
I can make the batch easy, just need to know what to put in it. |
| 19:36 |
Calinou |
yep, the windows command line sucks. |
| 19:36 |
Calinou |
it's ugly, too |
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Calinou |
even on windows 8 :P |
| 19:37 |
hoodedice |
Windows has a command line? |
| 19:37 |
DanDuncombe |
But what do I put in the batch file? |
| 19:37 |
hoodedice |
It's so useless no one uses it ;P |
| 19:38 |
Calinou |
but you should |
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Calinou |
DanDuncombe: no idea |
| 19:38 |
DanDuncombe |
I will do it, I am sure. |
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DanDuncombe |
Does anyone know how? |
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Peacock |
wow, since implementing nick bans, the banlist nearly doubled lol |
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Peacock |
(the ip banlist) |
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Jordach |
Peacock, that's good right |
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Peacock |
well it means im catching the same person with more than one IP |
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babyface1031 |
i have a question in the mv technic machines what goes in the upgrade slots |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Dont write directly to files but rather write and copy a tmp file d718b0b34e 2013-08-13T13:05:45-07:00 http://git.io/-zApxQ |
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Evergreen |
Lol, I put the sentence "How do I make modifications for minetest?" through several translations and here is what I got: |
| 20:17 |
Evergreen |
"How can I can test it to make a change?" |
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Peacock |
very gay, tape Miss Brahms! |
| 20:20 |
Peacock |
(that quote is soo old, she meant gay in the happy sense :P) |
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Jordach |
http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/315/desert.png |
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PenguinDad |
Jordach: is that SAM's island? |
| 20:30 |
Jordach |
Sam* |
| 20:30 |
Jordach |
PenguinDad, nope. |
| 20:30 |
Jordach |
it might become something else at a later date |
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Tesseract |
babyface1031: Either chips or batterys. |
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Tesseract |
(Electronic circuit?) |
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babyface1031 |
what does the chip do and what does the battery do |
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Tesseract |
babyface1031: The chip makes it emit pipeworks items faster, the bettery makes it use less power. |
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Tesseract |
(Only one per slot works) |
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babyface1031 |
ok ty |
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* Jordach |
pets MinetestBot |
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Jordach |
Peacock, you know the building with the ziggy zaggy pattern, how the fuck did you do that |
| 20:43 |
Peacock |
which one? |
| 20:43 |
Jordach |
the one beside the cloud tower |
| 20:43 |
Peacock |
the leaning tower? |
| 20:44 |
Jordach |
nono |
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Peacock |
the condo tower with each floor at a different shape? |
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sfan5 |
Evergreen: reconnect |
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sfan5 |
good night everyone |
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Peacock |
most of my towers are either done by hand or by carving into a rectangle genereated by a w/e |
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Peacock |
not *the* w/e |
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Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/BgOeQAY.jpg |
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Jordach |
^ that |
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Peacock |
That is the leaning tower of Madrid :p |
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Peacock |
there should be two, but i didn't see the point in copying it wholly |
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Jordach |
VanessaE, hoodedice, you about |
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hoodedice |
ya wut? |
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hoodedice |
2 30 AM here |
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Jordach |
hoodedice, i finished the o_0 face |
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Peacock |
jordach: if you make a really tricky mesh, i could spawn it and make a map |
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Peacock |
(tricky= huge) |
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Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/vUNF2PR.png |
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Jordach |
Peacock, heh |
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Evergreen |
You're doing awesome with those models Jordach! |
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Jordach |
Evergreen, welcome to generation 3 |
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Jordach |
generation 2 was the last ones seen in the mystery render |
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Jordach |
i'm still annoyed with the mouth |
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Evergreen |
No, the mouth looks great! |
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Jordach |
Evergreen, i mean the lips |
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Evergreen |
Oh |
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Jordach |
Evergreen, http://i.imgur.com/UWMwcEC.png |
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Jordach |
it *just doesnt* look right |
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Evergreen |
You're right |
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Jordach |
Evergreen, i could add MORE BONES to control the mouth |
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Tesseract |
Jordach: Will you update the LogoSkyBlock render? |
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Jordach |
later. |
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Evergreen |
I'm not sure, I am no blender expert |
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Jordach |
i'm trying to fix a model here, because this bad boy is a template, from which all my characters are devised from |
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Tesseract |
PilzAdam: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/client.cpp#L2943 |
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Tesseract |
(From http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/302/1337.png) |
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PilzAdam |
I know |
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PilzAdam |
saw that too |
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Tesseract |
It is used a lot in test.cpp too.. |
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PenguinDad |
We should add 42 too :P |
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Tesseract |
Aww, no matches in minetest_game. :-( |
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Tesseract |
(Lots of matches for 42, but they are commit hashes) |
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Tesseract |
Will common, survival, and build be deleted? |
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sdzen |
PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (not enough memory) |
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sdzen |
wooo |
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NekoGloop |
PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIC |
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* Tesseract |
gives NekoGloop a kitten to calm down with. |
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NekoGloop |
:3 |
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jin_xi |
http://i.imgur.com/1qgSDfQ.png some pyramid |
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thefamilygrog66 |
howdy folks |
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PilzAdam |
Taoki|away, stop using away nicks! |
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i |
hi |
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Guest12178 |
I've got a question. |
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harrison |
Yes! |
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sdzen |
No! |
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harrison |
Well, it is not without ambiguity. A partial yes. |
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sdzen |
what were you talking about again? |
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