| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:03 |
Exio4 |
lol |
| 00:03 |
Exio4 |
is MT in softonic? |
| 00:03 |
Exio4 |
lol. |
| 00:04 |
sdzen |
http://minetest.en.softonic.com/ |
| 00:04 |
sdzen |
looks like it |
| 00:05 |
Exio4 |
0.4.7 Beta 12/06/13 |
| 00:05 |
sdzen |
love how its not compatible with linux |
| 00:05 |
PilzAdam |
"GPL"? |
| 00:05 |
PilzAdam |
thats wrong |
| 00:05 |
Exio4 |
sdzen: yeah, that too |
| 00:05 |
PilzAdam |
at least they link the source |
| 00:06 |
Exio4 |
and minetest.net |
| 00:06 |
Exio4 |
(developer) |
| 00:06 |
PilzAdam |
SoftonicDownload_for_minetest.exe? wtf?! |
| 00:06 |
PilzAdam |
*downloader# |
| 00:06 |
PilzAdam |
-# |
| 00:06 |
Jordach |
IT'S A TRAP |
| 00:06 |
sdzen |
softonic has its own download manager pilzadam |
| 00:07 |
sdzen |
I actually like how they added beta |
| 00:07 |
Exio4 |
minetest never had "beta" releases |
| 00:08 |
Exio4 |
it is, "still", alpha |
| 00:08 |
sdzen |
something tells me there will never be a beta release |
| 00:08 |
sdzen |
we are not that organized |
| 00:08 |
Exio4 |
i think we will never get it either |
| 00:09 |
sdzen |
always in dev |
| 00:09 |
Exio4 |
because you can't finish a game like this 8) |
| 00:09 |
sdzen |
so I think it deserves to be in perpetual beta |
| 00:09 |
sdzen |
alpha sounds too rusty |
| 00:09 |
Exio4 |
it is actually that rust |
| 00:09 |
Exio4 |
i don't think alpha or beta are real names |
| 00:09 |
Exio4 |
the versions are good enough |
| 00:10 |
Exio4 |
0.4.7, 0.48 |
| 00:10 |
Exio4 |
s/48/4.8/ |
| 00:10 |
sdzen |
its all greek to me |
| 00:10 |
sdzen |
:) |
| 00:10 |
Exio4 |
s/real/good/ |
| 00:23 |
sdzen |
softonics website is broken :( |
| 00:23 |
sdzen |
the finish button on my review of minetest wont work |
| 00:28 |
kaeza |
I tried to download once from Softonic years ago |
| 00:29 |
kaeza |
they were "Yo dawg, I herd u liek downloading, so I made you download a downloader, so you can download a downloader for your download" |
| 00:31 |
kaeza |
actually with more levels, since I tried to download the Chrome Installer (which is a downloader itself) |
| 00:32 |
kaeza |
also, most of the time their "direct links" don't work |
| 00:33 |
Exio4 |
https://www.ohloh.net/languages/lua |
| 00:33 |
Exio4 |
Jeija, PilzAdam.. |
| 00:34 |
PilzAdam |
:D |
| 00:34 |
Exio4 |
no |
| 00:34 |
Exio4 |
it isn't :D |
| 00:35 |
PilzAdam |
no? |
| 00:36 |
Exio4 |
you need to say \:D/ |
| 00:36 |
* Exio4 |
runs |
| 00:36 |
Exio4 |
:P |
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| 01:18 |
Tesseract |
:-( Android 4.3 messed up my root, even with a su copy. |
| 01:22 |
leo_rockway |
is there a way to remove all unknown nodes with a command? |
| 01:22 |
leo_rockway |
also, hi |
| 01:22 |
leo_rockway |
o.o |
| 01:23 |
leo_rockway |
the vines mod kind of got out of control... |
| 01:23 |
kaeza |
hi leo_rockway |
| 01:24 |
kaeza |
maybe modify PilzAdam's clean mod |
| 01:24 |
leo_rockway |
I'll look for it, thank you. |
| 01:25 |
kaeza |
or some magic involving worldedit, the WE API, and chatcommands :P |
| 01:26 |
leo_rockway |
or... fire! o.o |
| 01:26 |
kaeza |
that works too |
| 01:27 |
PilzAdam |
kaeza, you just said my nick, that means you will get 7 days of luck |
| 01:27 |
kaeza |
yay luck! |
| 01:27 |
* kahrl |
sets up a weekly cronjob to ping PilzAdam |
| 01:28 |
PilzAdam |
!op |
| 01:28 |
|
Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | Today: Ping PilzAdam to get 7 days of luck! |
| 01:29 |
PilzAdam |
!deop |
| 01:29 |
leo_rockway |
I'm afraid I have to ask this: is it good luck or bad luck? |
| 01:29 |
PilzAdam |
unspecified |
| 01:30 |
leo_rockway |
I'd rather not risk it. |
| 01:30 |
kaeza |
7 days of implementation-defined luck |
| 01:37 |
leo_rockway |
PilzAdam: I tried your Pilztest with mapgenv7. It looks quite good. |
| 01:38 |
leo_rockway |
oh, crap. I pinged him :S |
| 01:38 |
PilzAdam |
:-) |
| 01:38 |
PilzAdam |
what about the other elements beside the mapgen? |
| 01:40 |
leo_rockway |
the tree leaves look different |
| 01:40 |
leo_rockway |
I'm not sure what other changes it has. I'm trying it now. |
| 01:40 |
leo_rockway |
what should I look for? |
| 01:40 |
leo_rockway |
oh, the bars instead of hearts and bubbles |
| 01:40 |
PilzAdam |
read the readme and play it in survival mode |
| 01:40 |
leo_rockway |
I'm in survival, yes. I'll check the readme. |
| 01:41 |
leo_rockway |
oh, I can't mine wood, I see. |
| 01:42 |
leo_rockway |
stacks of 20 |
| 01:43 |
leo_rockway |
no sticks :S |
| 01:43 |
leo_rockway |
I don't want to cheat and read the code. |
| 01:45 |
leo_rockway |
I have broken stone, sand, leaves and wood |
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| 01:53 |
lordcirth |
PilzAdam, is pilztest a different binary, a game folder, what? |
| 01:53 |
PilzAdam |
its a game for the minetest engine |
| 01:53 |
PilzAdam |
basically a bunch of Lua mods |
| 01:54 |
leo_rockway |
it's odd, but I think I like it |
| 01:55 |
leo_rockway |
I still don't know how to mine stones. |
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| 01:58 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 02:48 |
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| 03:51 |
VanessaE |
evening all. |
| 03:52 |
* NekoGloop |
bites VanessaE |
| 03:53 |
VanessaE |
ow. |
| 03:53 |
* VanessaE |
throws NekoGloop out into the snow |
| 03:53 |
NekoGloop |
Yay, snow~ |
| 03:53 |
sdzen |
night humans and incompetent bots |
| 03:53 |
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* NekoGloop |
rolls around in the snow and tosses it around |
| 03:56 |
* sokomine |
grabs some of the snow and uses it for making everything less warm |
| 03:59 |
Tesseract |
sokomine: http://minetestbb.suret.net/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=25 |
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| 06:14 |
sfan5 |
hi all |
| 06:14 |
sfan5 |
!op |
| 06:14 |
|
Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | Today: No special day :( |
| 06:14 |
sfan5 |
!deop |
| 06:16 |
sfan5 |
I think we need a how to use a forum for dummies book: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105170#p105170 |
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| 06:46 |
aldobr |
hi all |
| 06:46 |
sfan5 |
hi |
| 06:46 |
aldobr |
after some 5 hours installing linuxes |
| 06:46 |
aldobr |
i decided to download ubuntu and becone one with the masses |
| 06:47 |
aldobr |
*become |
| 06:47 |
sfan5 |
aldobr: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/privacy-ubuntu-1210-amazon-ads-and-data-leaks |
| 06:48 |
aldobr |
mageia doesnt have a minetest package |
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| 06:48 |
aldobr |
opensuse was unstable on my pc |
| 06:48 |
aldobr |
debian wheezy doesnt have minetest nor freecad |
| 06:48 |
aldobr |
now i am downloading ubuntu lts |
| 06:50 |
sfan5 |
but you need to read that link |
| 06:50 |
aldobr |
im reading while it downloads |
| 06:51 |
aldobr |
well, i dont plan to use dash |
| 06:51 |
aldobr |
i plan to use kde plasma |
| 06:51 |
aldobr |
i would prefer a kde based distro |
| 06:51 |
sfan5 |
oh then its ok |
| 06:51 |
aldobr |
but i believe downloading it from packages will do |
| 06:52 |
* sfan5 |
thinks about switching to Xununtu because Unity sucks |
| 06:53 |
aldobr |
sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping |
| 06:53 |
aldobr |
:P |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all, happy Youth Day! :-D |
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| 08:48 |
VanessaE |
what about us old farts? :) |
| 08:54 |
JamesTait |
VanessaE, I think we get one, somewhere, but I can't remember any more. ;) |
| 08:54 |
VanessaE |
heh |
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| 08:56 |
aldobr |
default ubuntu is ugly |
| 08:56 |
VanessaE |
use xubuntu instead. |
| 08:56 |
VanessaE |
unity sucks. |
| 08:57 |
aldobr |
ubuntu's grub set my screen refresh rate wrong |
| 08:57 |
aldobr |
i see black screen with a dancing Hz symbol up until x starts |
| 08:58 |
aldobr |
and the config utility doesnt allow me to set a correct monitor config (it is stuck at 800x600) |
| 08:58 |
aldobr |
ubuntu is too restrictive |
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| 09:00 |
iqualfragile |
aldobr: just edit the config |
| 09:00 |
aldobr |
VanessaE: i cant install any more linux distro, thats the 5th linux distro i installed this night |
| 09:00 |
VanessaE |
aldobr: you don't have to. |
| 09:00 |
VanessaE |
aldobr: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop |
| 09:00 |
aldobr |
??? |
| 09:00 |
aldobr |
hmmm |
| 09:00 |
VanessaE |
then log out and log back in with "Xubuntu Session" in your display manager |
| 09:01 |
aldobr |
xubuntu is gnome ? |
| 09:01 |
VanessaE |
nope |
| 09:01 |
VanessaE |
it's xfce |
| 09:01 |
VanessaE |
installing "xubuntu-desktop" brings that in. |
| 09:01 |
aldobr |
ahh xface |
| 09:01 |
VanessaE |
there's other stuff you'll want, like xfce4-goodies and the like but you can get that stuff later. |
| 09:01 |
aldobr |
what about lxde ? |
| 09:02 |
VanessaE |
probably lubuntu-desktop :P |
| 09:02 |
VanessaE |
never tried. |
| 09:02 |
Yepoleb |
lxde is missing important features |
| 09:02 |
aldobr |
how to open a console ? |
| 09:02 |
aldobr |
cant find a icon |
| 09:02 |
VanessaE |
Ithink you have to search for "terminal" |
| 09:02 |
VanessaE |
I forget how unity's app search works |
| 09:03 |
PenguinDad |
aldobr: Ctrl-Alt-F1 :P |
| 09:03 |
Yepoleb |
xD |
| 09:03 |
VanessaE |
(heh, I bound that to Win-F1 on my box) |
| 09:04 |
VanessaE |
(a real terminal of course, not the console) |
| 09:05 |
aldobr |
control alt f1 borked the whole thing |
| 09:05 |
aldobr |
lol |
| 09:05 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 09:05 |
VanessaE |
aldobr: that usually puts you on the first hardware console (F7 takes you back to X) |
| 09:05 |
VanessaE |
these days, it's a fallback in case X is indeed b0rk3d. |
| 09:06 |
aldobr |
i know how to use the consoles |
| 09:06 |
aldobr |
but the thing is unstable |
| 09:06 |
aldobr |
i want a xconsole |
| 09:06 |
aldobr |
the dash went away |
| 09:06 |
VanessaE |
(mine's configured for a 1280x1024 framebuffer with ~20px font) |
| 09:06 |
aldobr |
windows are as if there is no window manager |
| 09:06 |
aldobr |
crazy |
| 09:06 |
VanessaE |
you want a terminal then, so use the app search for "terminal" :) |
| 09:07 |
aldobr |
well |
| 09:07 |
aldobr |
i believe i installed lubuntu |
| 09:07 |
aldobr |
now control-alt-backspace to close that dash |
| 09:08 |
aldobr |
oh |
| 09:08 |
VanessaE |
nooooooo |
| 09:08 |
aldobr |
its compiz |
| 09:08 |
VanessaE |
just log out |
| 09:08 |
VanessaE |
ctrl-alt-backspace kills X entirely. |
| 09:08 |
aldobr |
nowhere to click "logout" |
| 09:08 |
VanessaE |
you don't wanna do that |
| 09:08 |
VanessaE |
look in your panel |
| 09:08 |
aldobr |
theres no window manager |
| 09:08 |
aldobr |
no panel |
| 09:08 |
aldobr |
nothing |
| 09:08 |
VanessaE |
upper right corner should be yo--- |
| 09:08 |
aldobr |
just application windows |
| 09:08 |
VanessaE |
you're not in unity? |
| 09:08 |
VanessaE |
gnome, etc? |
| 09:08 |
aldobr |
unity vanished after i returned from text mode console |
| 09:09 |
VanessaE |
ctrl-alt-f7 |
| 09:09 |
VanessaE |
oh you did that already |
| 09:09 |
VanessaE |
weird. |
| 09:09 |
VanessaE |
well in that case, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 09:09 |
VanessaE |
that's more graceful than killing X |
| 09:17 |
VanessaE |
eh, bbl |
| 09:17 |
VanessaE |
time to get some semblance of sleep. maybe. |
| 09:18 |
PenguinDad |
bbl |
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aldobr |
back |
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aldobr |
hi all |
| 09:40 |
aldobr |
finally lxde is working |
| 09:40 |
Calinou |
<VanessaE> ctrl-alt-backspace kills X entirely. |
| 09:40 |
Calinou |
it's disabled on most distros these days |
| 09:40 |
aldobr |
yeah unfortunatelly |
| 09:40 |
aldobr |
had to press reset :P |
| 09:41 |
PenguinDad |
It's disabled on Xubuntu |
| 09:42 |
aldobr |
now lets see how to change grub default mode |
| 09:46 |
thexyz |
alt+printscreen+reisub |
| 09:49 |
Yepoleb |
sysrq+k |
| 09:49 |
aldobr |
installing minetest |
| 09:50 |
thexyz |
you forgot alt |
| 09:50 |
aldobr |
works ! :D |
| 09:51 |
aldobr |
now i need a server |
| 09:52 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: http://is.gd/I9PPQM |
| 09:52 |
Yepoleb |
localhost is a great server :P |
| 09:52 |
aldobr |
what happens if i enter a git server with 0.4.7 ? |
| 09:53 |
Calinou |
sfan5: seems legit |
| 09:53 |
Calinou |
don't use URL shorteners |
| 09:53 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: that url is too long |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 10:00 |
aldobr |
hi |
| 10:00 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, why have you changed the topic? |
| 10:01 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: because your name is not LuckAdam or PilzLuck ;) |
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| 10:36 |
DanDuncombe |
I have 2 questions. 1) How do you get black dye? and 2) Can this be moved to mod releases? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6893 |
| 10:37 |
PilzAdam |
dependencies missing |
| 10:37 |
PilzAdam |
and for the black dye: there is a legit way to get it |
| 10:37 |
PilzAdam |
I leave it up to you to find it out :-) |
| 10:37 |
DanDuncombe |
AH, derpendencies. Woops. |
| 10:39 |
DanDuncombe |
Coal won't make black dye, there aren't black flowers, and no colour mix seems to make black. Arrrrgh. |
| 10:39 |
PilzAdam |
are you sure about the color mixes? |
| 10:40 |
DanDuncombe |
I can't work out the blac one. |
| 10:41 |
DanDuncombe |
I have added depndencies to prefab mod, btw. |
| 10:42 |
marksill_ |
Wiki needs to be updated with the new crafting recipes of 1.4.7 |
| 10:43 |
PilzAdam |
marksill_, we cant do that |
| 10:44 |
DanDuncombe |
PilzAdam, can you please move Prefab mod now? |
| 10:44 |
PilzAdam |
no |
| 10:44 |
DanDuncombe |
Why? |
| 10:44 |
PilzAdam |
I cant |
| 10:45 |
DanDuncombe |
You aren't a moderator, right? |
| 10:45 |
PilzAdam |
yeap |
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DanDuncombe |
VanessaE, or Jordach, could one of you move it? |
| 10:46 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE sleeps and Jordach isnt here |
| 10:46 |
PilzAdam |
I would ask sfan5 |
| 10:46 |
sfan5 |
hm? |
| 10:47 |
DanDuncombe |
sfan5, can you please move this to mod releases? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6893 |
| 10:48 |
DanDuncombe |
Does anyone have any more ideas for the prefab concrete mod? |
| 10:48 |
sfan5 |
moved |
| 10:49 |
DanDuncombe |
Thanks. |
| 10:52 |
DanDuncombe |
The author Bill Bryson said that german food names often sound like nasty diseases. |
| 10:53 |
DanDuncombe |
Nothing personal, of course. |
| 10:53 |
DanDuncombe |
I was just saying. |
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DanDuncombe |
Bye guys |
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marksill_ |
I don't believe it's normal to start a new world and fall to you death because nothing generated, is it? |
| 11:21 |
Calinou |
you don't fall |
| 11:21 |
marksill_ |
No, my Y drops really quick and then I die |
| 11:22 |
iqualfragile |
:) |
| 11:23 |
marksill_ |
I think that it might be generating really slowly, because I can see caves in the distance |
| 11:24 |
marksill_ |
I always die at 1472.5 |
| 11:24 |
marksill_ |
Y |
| 11:25 |
marksill_ |
I managed to fling myself into lava that time |
| 11:25 |
PilzAdam |
you cant walk or fall in not generated areas |
| 11:25 |
marksill_ |
I'm so confiused |
| 11:25 |
marksill_ |
Hmm |
| 11:26 |
marksill_ |
What's the button for screenshots? |
| 11:26 |
sfan5 |
F12 |
| 11:26 |
marksill_ |
Thanks |
| 11:28 |
marksill_ |
Here's a screenie: http://imgur.com/bgfkJOS |
| 11:28 |
marksill_ |
Even made an imgur account for this |
| 11:31 |
marksill_ |
I can only recreate it in that world |
| 11:31 |
marksill_ |
All my others (including ones I create) work fine |
| 11:31 |
jcontra |
Hey, everyone-- again I want to share that I have a minetest shirt available via Kickstarter at www.libretees.com |
| 11:32 |
marksill_ |
Would a world download help to pinpoint whatever bug/problem/mistake on my behalf this is? |
| 11:33 |
iqualfragile |
marksill_: please provide the seed |
| 11:33 |
marksill_ |
OK |
| 11:33 |
marksill_ |
5893849084941306156 |
| 11:34 |
Calinou |
for once we don't have to tell how to get seed :D |
| 11:35 |
marksill_ |
:P |
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thexyz |
jcontra: don't like the design |
| 11:58 |
jcontra |
:( |
| 11:59 |
jcontra |
What could we do better? |
| 11:59 |
jcontra |
Just the logo? |
| 11:59 |
thexyz |
well, to be honest, all t-shirts look nice to me apart from Minetest one |
| 11:59 |
thexyz |
though I don't like many things, like current main page design |
| 12:01 |
jcontra |
I see-- well I appreciate the feedback |
| 12:01 |
jcontra |
Please consider backing nonetheless-- it's for a good cause |
| 12:01 |
sfan5 |
jcontra: IMO the green sword and blue pickaxe don't fit |
| 12:02 |
Calinou |
>good cause |
| 12:02 |
sfan5 |
also what is that block in the background of the minetest shirt? |
| 12:02 |
jcontra |
a building block |
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PilzAdam |
bbl |
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DanDuncombe |
Do you think VanessaE is awake? |
| 12:21 |
Evergreen |
Idk, let's see |
| 12:21 |
Evergreen |
VanessaE: Dan DanDuncombe wants to know if you are awake |
| 12:21 |
DanDuncombe |
What does that mean Calinou? |
| 12:21 |
Calinou |
checks your IRC client |
| 12:21 |
Calinou |
both of you, DanDuncombe and Evergreen use webchat :P |
| 12:22 |
Calinou |
Evergreen: lol, 32 bit |
| 12:22 |
DanDuncombe |
Yep |
| 12:22 |
Evergreen |
Yop |
| 12:22 |
DanDuncombe |
Yup |
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Evergreen |
I use webchat just because it is convenient. I can't help it being 32 bit either, it is a laptop, and I don't think there is any way of upgrading |
| 12:23 |
DanDuncombe |
I have a 32bit laptop |
| 12:23 |
Evergreen |
(unless my processor can handle 64 bit) |
| 12:23 |
DanDuncombe |
I use 64bit Linux sometimes. |
| 12:23 |
DanDuncombe |
I have no problems. |
| 12:23 |
Evergreen |
No, no no, it's not about linux, it is the processor |
| 12:24 |
DanDuncombe |
But I have a 32bit processor that runs a 64bit OS. |
| 12:24 |
Evergreen |
I probably would have to buy another computer to have 64 bit |
| 12:24 |
Evergreen |
Huh, that's odd |
| 12:24 |
DanDuncombe |
It works fine. |
| 12:24 |
Evergreen |
But I don't think that's the point of switching to 64 bit |
| 12:25 |
Evergreen |
Part of it is you can have more than 4gb of ram if you have a 64 bit processor |
| 12:25 |
DanDuncombe |
You can have more than 4gb ram with 32bit,it just won't use it. |
| 12:25 |
iqualfragile |
DanDuncombe: impossible |
| 12:26 |
iqualfragile |
you can not run any 64bit programm on a 32 bit processor |
| 12:26 |
DanDuncombe |
You can install a higher gb ram card. |
| 12:26 |
DanDuncombe |
And I have a 32bit netbook, and run 64bit Ubuntu with ease. |
| 12:26 |
DanDuncombe |
It freezes really bad sometimes though. |
| 12:26 |
iqualfragile |
and you can have and use more then 4 gb ram on a 32 bit os |
| 12:27 |
iqualfragile |
windows is just too stupid |
| 12:27 |
sfan5 |
"I have a 32bit processor that runs a 64bit OS." wat |
| 12:27 |
iqualfragile |
DanDuncombe: no, it is impossible |
| 12:27 |
sfan5 |
won't wor |
| 12:27 |
sfan5 |
+k |
| 12:27 |
iqualfragile |
you can not run a 64 bit os on a 32 bit processor |
| 12:28 |
sfan5 |
the kernel will try to use %rax, %rbx, %rcx, %rdx, %rsp, %rdi and other 64bit registers that arent available on 32bit |
| 12:29 |
DanDuncombe |
It does freeze and crash quite often though. |
| 12:29 |
sfan5 |
DanDuncombe: post the output of "uname -m" |
| 12:29 |
DanDuncombe |
I am on windows right now, so I can't. |
| 12:29 |
sfan5 |
hm |
| 12:29 |
sfan5 |
I'm 100% sure that will output "x86" since you can't use x86_64 on x86 processors |
| 12:30 |
DanDuncombe |
Duall booting. |
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sfan5 |
Dual Booting only allows you to have 2 OSs at the same time |
| 12:30 |
sfan5 |
it doesn't have anything to do with 32bit or 64bit |
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DanDuncombe |
I will switch over now and post the result. Will be a few moments. |
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DanDuncombe |
sfan5, "uname -m" gives me x86_64 |
| 12:35 |
sfan5 |
DanDuncombe: then you have a 64bit laptop |
| 12:35 |
DanDuncombe |
But it is a 32bit netbook. |
| 12:35 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 12:35 |
DanDuncombe |
It says 32bit nu |
| 12:35 |
sfan5 |
not possible |
| 12:35 |
DanDuncombe |
*underneath |
| 12:35 |
Calinou |
iqualfragile: it's not like any 32 bit processor today is good enough |
| 12:36 |
sfan5 |
DanDuncombe: what is nu? |
| 12:36 |
Calinou |
<DanDuncombe> You can install a higher gb ram card. |
| 12:36 |
Calinou |
no. |
| 12:36 |
Calinou |
on top of that, VRAM doesn't do performance |
| 12:36 |
DanDuncombe |
It was meant to be underneath: so "It says 32bit underneath" is what I meant. |
| 12:36 |
Calinou |
<DanDuncombe> It freezes really bad sometimes though. |
| 12:36 |
DanDuncombe |
I have 2gb of ram. |
| 12:36 |
Calinou |
it has nothing to do, the CPU does support 64 bit |
| 12:36 |
Calinou |
it's just CPU and storage being insanely slow :) |
| 12:37 |
DanDuncombe |
I have to go for a bit |
| 12:37 |
Calinou |
RAM also doesn't mean performance |
| 12:37 |
Calinou |
as long as it isn't full |
| 12:37 |
Evergreen |
Yay, I got a 4gb extension, and a 1TB ecternal hard drive! |
| 12:37 |
Evergreen |
*external |
| 12:37 |
Calinou |
same for storage, better have good storage (SSD) than a lot |
| 12:38 |
Evergreen |
I can't put SSD drives in my laptop |
| 12:38 |
Evergreen |
IT has to be external |
| 12:38 |
iqualfragile |
DanDuncombe: paste cat /proc/cpuinfo somewhere |
| 12:42 |
Evergreen |
I would have put an SSD drive in if I ccould |
| 12:43 |
Calinou |
s/SSD drive/SSD/ |
| 12:43 |
Calinou |
solid state drive drive? |
| 12:44 |
Evergreen |
Whoops, sorry |
| 12:44 |
Evergreen |
:P |
| 12:44 |
Evergreen |
*an SSD in |
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DanDuncombe |
iqualfragile: Here are the results of cat /proc/cpuinfo http://pastebin.com/ABBFt5yY |
| 12:51 |
DanDuncombe |
What is the sudo command to update an installed Minetest to the latest Ubuntu git? |
| 12:54 |
Calinou |
packaged, or self-compiled? |
| 12:55 |
Calinou |
packaged: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade |
| 12:55 |
Calinou |
DanDuncombe: this CPU supports 64 bit |
| 12:55 |
Calinou |
I have it too on a netbook |
| 12:55 |
DanDuncombe |
What do I put after sudo apt-get update? |
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DanDuncombe |
I was packaged I think. |
| 12:56 |
DanDuncombe |
*It |
| 12:56 |
Calinou |
told you :P |
| 12:56 |
Calinou |
sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade |
| 12:57 |
DanDuncombe |
Oh, sorry. |
| 12:58 |
DanDuncombe |
Should I add breeze-blocks to prefab concrete mod? |
| 12:59 |
DanDuncombe |
The hollow kind. |
| 13:01 |
DanDuncombe |
Also, I can't do texturing and whatever in Linux, because no file type is recognised by any program. Why? I can't even upload to imgur because pictures aren't recognised. |
| 13:01 |
DanDuncombe |
A sneak peek at a possible breezeblock design for prefab. https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQfBcRUElTRQJEc4d2jpL9imJ6fTsj_ga_WAiSFIvrOM0rXDB4HAA |
| 13:04 |
Calinou |
<DanDuncombe> Also, I can't do texturing and whatever in Linux, because no file type is recognised by any program. Why? I can't even upload to imgur because pictures aren't recognised. |
| 13:04 |
Calinou |
uh? imgur lets you upload any kind of image, just select it |
| 13:04 |
DanDuncombe |
They aren't shown in the box |
| 13:05 |
DanDuncombe |
I can only view them with the program LibreOffice Draw |
| 13:06 |
sfan5 |
^ wat |
| 13:06 |
sfan5 |
which box? |
| 13:06 |
Calinou |
gimp filename.extension |
| 13:06 |
Calinou |
in a terminal ^ :P |
| 13:07 |
thexyz |
in a terminal emulator :P |
| 13:07 |
DanDuncombe |
The one that opens when you click upload images from computer |
| 13:08 |
DanDuncombe |
Also, with the ready-built GIMP from the software centre, when opened, how do you open a file? |
| 13:09 |
DanDuncombe |
Don't worry, found it out. |
| 13:10 |
Calinou |
thexyz: "terminal emulator" doesn't mean much these days |
| 13:10 |
Calinou |
it's used by people who believe it's still useful to use Ctrl+Alt+F1 |
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DanDuncombe |
Github is being incredibly slow today. |
| 13:13 |
thexyz |
Calinou: it is, when your system is fucked |
| 13:14 |
PenguinDad |
DanDuncombe: not for me :P |
| 13:14 |
thexyz |
or X decided not to work today |
| 13:15 |
Calinou |
yes, but when it works you don't need it |
| 13:15 |
DanDuncombe |
How do I use Github on Linux? Like,how to upload an update to Github? |
| 13:15 |
Calinou |
git |
| 13:16 |
DanDuncombe |
Is it on the software centre? |
| 13:16 |
Calinou |
sudo apt-get install git |
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* Calinou |
never uses the software centre |
| 13:17 |
DanDuncombe |
Thanks Calinou. |
| 13:20 |
DanDuncombe |
When I do install git, how do I clone stuff and upload? Is it command line or gui? |
| 13:20 |
Calinou |
command line |
| 13:20 |
Calinou |
learn how to use it; it's good |
| 13:20 |
Calinou |
git clone <repo URL> |
| 13:20 |
Calinou |
git add <files to add> |
| 13:20 |
Calinou |
git commit . -m <commit message> |
| 13:21 |
Calinou |
git push |
| 13:21 |
Calinou |
git pull |
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DanDuncombe |
Can Linux run Windows Batch Files? |
| 13:28 |
Semilevel |
Only with Wine. |
| 13:29 |
Semilevel |
Or virtualisation etc |
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DanDuncombe |
Who thinks cats are better than dogs? |
| 13:30 |
Semilevel |
me |
| 13:30 |
DanDuncombe |
Also, who thinks a prefabricated concrete Sam statue would be a good addition to prefab mod? |
| 13:35 |
thexyz |
it's good |
| 13:35 |
jcontra |
me |
| 13:35 |
thexyz |
it's also very inconsistent but you'll get used to it! |
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DanDuncombe |
thexyz what is inconsistent? |
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thexyz |
git is |
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DanDuncombe |
Calinou, was it you who told me the sudo update upgrade command? |
| 13:46 |
Calinou |
yes |
| 13:47 |
DanDuncombe |
No offense, but I think you screwed up my computer. |
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DanDuncombe |
When I ran the update command on Linux, it spent about half an hour updating. Now in Linux the mouse won't move at all and in Windows all my bookmarks have been deleted. |
| 13:49 |
thexyz |
and my hamster died too |
| 13:49 |
thexyz |
fuck you, Calinou |
| 13:50 |
DanDuncombe |
Does this sound like a dodgy name? Newest registered user: wetplayer123 |
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thexyz |
how come you don't know update-upgrade kills hamsters |
| 13:50 |
DanDuncombe |
Why did Calinou break Linux? Just WHY?! |
| 13:50 |
Calinou |
because you followed my advice too quickly |
| 13:51 |
DanDuncombe |
I will have to completely re-install Kubuntu now... |
| 13:51 |
Calinou |
also, your bookmarks being gone on windows == not caused by linux |
| 13:51 |
Calinou |
yes, do that |
| 13:51 |
DanDuncombe |
It was caused by Linux. I know it. |
| 13:51 |
Calinou |
nope. it can't |
| 13:51 |
DanDuncombe |
They were there before, I switched over to linux, updated, and now they are gone. |
| 13:51 |
Calinou |
also, do you use a touchpad or an actual mouse? |
| 13:51 |
Calinou |
if it's a touchpad, don't ask why |
| 13:51 |
Calinou |
I'm sure it disabled itself hardware-wise |
| 13:52 |
Calinou |
in this case there can be button to enable it |
| 13:52 |
DanDuncombe |
I tried both mouse and touchpad. |
| 13:52 |
Calinou |
well, that's ubuntu and kubuntu |
| 13:52 |
Calinou |
also: shit happens |
| 13:52 |
DanDuncombe |
They enable touchpad button only has any effect on Windows. I tried it. |
| 13:52 |
DanDuncombe |
*the |
| 13:53 |
Calinou |
also: you're not going to get help if you don't ask on IRC or on support forums |
| 13:53 |
Calinou |
so go to #ubuntu and complain about it now |
| 13:53 |
DanDuncombe |
What was the command again? |
| 13:53 |
DanDuncombe |
So I can tell them |
| 13:54 |
Calinou |
sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade |
| 13:54 |
Calinou |
and be patient, people may not know the answer |
| 13:55 |
Calinou |
note that they'll yell at you because you use PPAs |
| 13:56 |
DanDuncombe |
Oh well. |
| 13:57 |
DanDuncombe |
Who thinks this isn't bad for my first ever render? http://s23.postimg.org/9fyw7r5vf/Rendered_Imagepng.png |
| 13:57 |
DanDuncombe |
It is a mounted minigun. |
| 13:59 |
DanDuncombe |
Calinou, in Windows my battery time remaining icon is also gone. |
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Calinou |
look at the power management settings |
| 14:07 |
Calinou |
also, dual boot user problems |
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DanDuncombe |
Is there a function with Modster that automatically updates, or at least notifies you of updates? |
| 14:22 |
DanDuncombe |
Auto updates mods I mean |
| 14:23 |
Calinou |
auto-update is evil |
| 14:23 |
Calinou |
DanDuncombe: if apt used auto-update, you wouldn't like it :P |
| 14:23 |
DanDuncombe |
Oh well. |
| 14:23 |
DanDuncombe |
Do you have any ideas for prefab mod? |
| 14:24 |
DanDuncombe |
Also, although Linux is now broken, it fixed a bug I was having with Windows, so thanks for that Calinou. |
| 14:24 |
DanDuncombe |
Should Modster be made oifficial, and come with minetest, do you think? along with JBR's texture pack program? |
| 14:25 |
DanDuncombe |
*official |
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Evergree|afk |
No, because linux |
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Evergree|afk |
I don't think that would be a good idea, unless they both supported linux (without wine) |
| 14:27 |
NekoGloop |
sup |
| 14:28 |
Evergreen |
Sup |
| 14:28 |
NekoGloop |
the ceiling |
| 14:29 |
DanDuncombe |
Can someone please pastebin an ABM to make one node be replaced by another when the neighbour is a default:lava_source? |
| 14:31 |
sfan5 |
DanDuncombe: do it yourself |
| 14:31 |
sfan5 |
we are not your magic wishing well |
| 14:32 |
DanDuncombe |
I can't get the abm to work though. It runs regardless of neighbours. |
| 14:32 |
sfan5 |
paste the code |
| 14:32 |
DanDuncombe |
Ok. Will be a mo. |
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DanDuncombe |
sfan5; http://pastebin.com/vv6HvgnX |
| 14:35 |
hoodedice |
Yo |
| 14:36 |
sfan5 |
DanDuncombe: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1890 |
| 14:36 |
hoodedice |
Dan, your code? |
| 14:36 |
sfan5 |
1. you write neighbors wrong |
| 14:36 |
hoodedice |
I turns stone into lava? |
| 14:36 |
sfan5 |
2. it need to be an array not a string |
| 14:36 |
DanDuncombe |
Thanks sfan5 |
| 14:37 |
DanDuncombe |
hoodedice: It turns stone into lava,if it is next to lava |
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sfan5 |
hoodedice: no, it (is supposed to) turn stone nearby lava source blocks into flowing lava |
| 14:37 |
hoodedice |
Ah |
| 14:37 |
hoodedice |
Pragrammer XP +20 |
| 14:37 |
hoodedice |
*Programmer |
| 14:41 |
Peacock |
lol : |
| 14:41 |
Peacock |
Tony Abbott told a gathering of conservative party faithful on Monday that no one is “the suppository of all wisdom.†|
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hoodedice |
? |
| 14:42 |
Peacock |
Australian politics :p |
| 14:42 |
Peacock |
somehow dont think this guy will get elected lol |
| 14:43 |
Peacock |
Abbott, a Rhodes scholar, apparently meant to say “repository†— a storage place |
| 14:43 |
hoodedice |
Hmm, is this Rudd guy his rival? |
| 14:44 |
hoodedice |
Kevin Rudd? |
| 14:44 |
Peacock |
Rudd yeah, twice PM, between the Rudd was Juliana something |
| 14:44 |
Peacock |
Julia Gillard i think |
| 14:44 |
hoodedice |
Rudd's backing homophiles. |
| 14:44 |
hoodedice |
*homosexuality |
| 14:45 |
Peacock |
most liberal parties do |
| 14:45 |
Peacock |
i think Canada is the only country where all parties do though |
| 14:45 |
hoodedice |
Ya, and that's gonna get him over 70% of votes I bet |
| 14:46 |
Peacock |
well what business is it of the gov't what consenting adults do? especially when they can't even get the economy right |
| 14:46 |
DanDuncombe |
To add a liquid to minetest, do I just correctly define the source node and flowing node, and that's it? |
| 14:46 |
Peacock |
in fact, its only when gov'ts screw up on the economy and jobs that they start focusing more on social issues |
| 14:47 |
hoodedice |
+1 |
| 14:48 |
hoodedice |
Thing is, I don't think the homovement should've been THAT popularised at all |
| 14:48 |
DanDuncombe |
Notepad++ Is now officially screwed up. |
| 14:48 |
hoodedice |
Use Decoda |
| 14:48 |
DanDuncombe |
When I open it it opens at the far top left of the screen, in fact off the screen. |
| 14:49 |
Peacock |
some people said the same thing about black rights half a century ago |
| 14:49 |
hoodedice |
Well, that had to be |
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sfan5 |
Jordach! |
| 14:50 |
Peacock |
or women's rights for that matter |
| 14:50 |
hoodedice |
It wasn't about something you do in bed. Or stuff you hide from children |
| 14:50 |
Jordach |
sfan5! |
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hoodedice |
You can discuss black rights, and women equality |
| 14:50 |
Peacock |
there are still plenty of white people who wouldn't take their kids through a black neighbourhood lol |
| 14:50 |
DanDuncombe |
But they are stupid, unless the Black people would try to attack them, as still happens sometimes. |
| 14:50 |
hoodedice |
But imagine this 5 year old going like 'Daddy, what is ho-mo-sex-ua-li-ty?' |
| 14:51 |
hoodedice |
If Blacks attack, that doesn't mean that whiles don't |
| 14:51 |
hoodedice |
*Whites |
| 14:51 |
hoodedice |
*can't |
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Peacock |
well he either explains or he doesn't, by the time the kids' 16-18, theyre gonna know what it is |
| 14:51 |
hoodedice |
Ya, and they can wait till then |
| 14:52 |
hoodedice |
One's gotta be careful about what he's telling his kids |
| 14:52 |
Peacock |
well thats up to each parent, not the gov't |
| 14:52 |
hoodedice |
Point proved. There's no need for such an escalation |
| 14:53 |
Peacock |
parents (are supposed) to transmit their values to their kids, the fact that most leave it up to TV now speaks more about their parenting skills than societal standards |
| 14:53 |
hoodedice |
Indeed |
| 14:53 |
DanDuncombe |
I found my first ever nyan cat today. |
| 14:54 |
Peacock |
in any case, social issues aside, i vote more on the economy, and conservatives in many countries have a worse track record with deficits |
| 14:54 |
Peacock |
they wanna cut taxes and spend more on defense, make abortion illegal while degrading the social safety net, etc. |
| 14:55 |
Peacock |
few of their policies make any sense |
| 14:55 |
hoodedice |
abortion illegal? lol |
| 14:55 |
hoodedice |
I don't vote at all. Nor will ever |
| 14:56 |
hoodedice |
(I'm underage anyway) |
| 14:57 |
Peacock |
grandparents' generation understood the value of investing today for a better tomorrow, their kids (the boomers) chose instead to mortgage the future of their kids and grandchildren |
| 14:58 |
Peacock |
and now they talk about legalizing assisted suicide as a compassionate thing, when its really about fixing the broken pension system |
| 14:58 |
jcontra |
hoodedice: I live in DC and it's an even bigger joke when you live here |
| 14:58 |
hoodedice |
Washington DC? |
| 14:59 |
jcontra |
yep |
| 14:59 |
hoodedice |
legalizing assisted suicide? That should count upto murder lol |
| 14:59 |
hoodedice |
Seriously, you are so right, Peacock |
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Peacock |
the T4 program in the 30's was billed as a compassionate thing too, and we all know how that turned out |
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hoodedice |
Stupid politicians just want to change the topic |
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jcontra |
yep |
| 15:00 |
jcontra |
they distract while they profit |
| 15:00 |
hoodedice |
Indeed. |
| 15:00 |
Peacock |
theyre bleeding the country dry lol |
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Jordach |
bullet + gun + politician = dead politician |
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jcontra |
you know that t-shirt plug I did last night? |
| 15:01 |
Peacock |
theres a town in northern quebec, they wanted this guy's mansion for an old folks home, so they raised his evaluation 30% |
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jcontra |
well, one congressman here in DC |
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Peacock |
the guy decided instead, to demolish his home |
| 15:01 |
jcontra |
opened up some offices in the capitol building for startups |
| 15:01 |
jcontra |
I got invited |
| 15:01 |
hoodedice |
evaluation? |
| 15:02 |
DanDuncombe |
Help? Flowing liquid I added is white? http://i.imgur.com/vAI56sr.png |
| 15:02 |
Peacock |
the city's appraisal for tax purposes |
| 15:02 |
jcontra |
but it's blatantly clear that the purpose of opening up that space for us to work is simply to snag/invest in a startup before anyone else can |
| 15:02 |
Peacock |
they figured by jumping his tax bill 30%, he'd sell for the meager amount the city wanted to pay |
| 15:02 |
jcontra |
it's self-serving |
| 15:02 |
hoodedice |
Dan. check PNG transparency thingy |
| 15:02 |
Peacock |
so in came the wrecking ball, rightfully so imo |
| 15:02 |
hoodedice |
He didn't. I salute him. |
| 15:02 |
Peacock |
now the property is worth 5K, just the land lol |
| 15:03 |
DanDuncombe |
PNG transparency- the image is 100% non-transparent |
| 15:03 |
* Jordach |
just noticed a unusual pitch bend in VLC |
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| 15:03 |
Peacock |
VLC is starting to suck balls |
| 15:03 |
Jordach |
it's just about 4 cents under +- 0 cents |
| 15:03 |
Peacock |
but the alternatives on linux are worse (missing remote, or missing equalizer, or just worst quality video/audio) |
| 15:03 |
hoodedice |
So you make it semi transparent or something |
| 15:04 |
Jordach |
Peacock, one of the video players that come with xubuntu works great |
| 15:04 |
* Jordach |
cant remember the name :P |
| 15:04 |
hoodedice |
Parole? |
| 15:04 |
Peacock |
does it have a remote and equalizer and video cropping? i use all those and more lol |
| 15:04 |
Jordach |
hoodedice, think so |
| 15:04 |
hoodedice |
Gwah. Why am I not on Xubuntu? |
| 15:05 |
hoodedice |
It IS Parole |
| 15:05 |
Peacock |
i think VLC could have waited a year before releasing 2.0 series |
| 15:05 |
Jordach |
hoodedice, i havent ever had a issue with xubuntu when i used it |
| 15:06 |
hoodedice |
So have I |
| 15:06 |
hoodedice |
It's just that I am forced to use windows |
| 15:06 |
Peacock |
device driver issues? |
| 15:06 |
thexyz |
Peacock: mpv |
| 15:06 |
Calinou |
parole, yes |
| 15:06 |
Calinou |
it does what it needs to do :P |
| 15:06 |
Peacock |
mpv? |
| 15:06 |
hoodedice |
The only problem was in 12.04 LTS with simple scan |
| 15:07 |
thexyz |
Peacock: is ze best player |
| 15:07 |
Peacock |
!g mpv |
| 15:07 |
MinetestBot |
Peacock: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPV |
| 15:07 |
hoodedice |
Nothing critical, just this VoIP called magicjack |
| 15:07 |
thexyz |
Peacock: http://mpv.io/ |
| 15:07 |
hoodedice |
This? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-Purpose_Vehicle |
| 15:07 |
Peacock |
yeah i figured you werent talking about multi-purpose-vehicle lol |
| 15:08 |
Peacock |
oh shit, they added features to mplayer1/2 |
| 15:08 |
thexyz |
also, vlc sucks |
| 15:08 |
hoodedice |
Doesn't run on Linux, this MJack thingy |
| 15:08 |
thexyz |
I had to tell it |
| 15:08 |
Peacock |
i know lol |
| 15:08 |
Peacock |
playing MKV's on vlc is melting my heatsink lol |
| 15:08 |
Jordach |
really? |
| 15:09 |
Jordach |
my pc doesnt often go above 64*C |
| 15:09 |
Peacock |
id avoid MKV if i could, but some series you just can't find subtitles, but there are MKV's |
| 15:09 |
hoodedice |
I have two cooling fans |
| 15:09 |
thexyz |
related HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6194563 |
| 15:09 |
thexyz |
also, mkv is ze best container |
| 15:09 |
Peacock |
im thinking of simply taking the case side off the p4 lol |
| 15:09 |
Peacock |
but the dust :/ |
| 15:10 |
hoodedice |
(Irony. The only heat source is the C2D) |
| 15:10 |
Jordach |
Peacock, i'm planning on JIGSAWING a hole in the side |
| 15:10 |
Peacock |
mkv might be the best container, but not many players seem to handle them well :/ |
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| 15:10 |
thexyz |
Peacock: are you sure you're talking about container, not codec? |
| 15:10 |
Peacock |
i do like it when the subtitles are "built in" to the video |
| 15:10 |
Jordach |
Peacock, use a white marker to draw a shape so you can cut it out with a jigsaw :) |
| 15:10 |
Peacock |
well whatever .mkv is lol |
| 15:10 |
* Jordach |
hates ones which are with the video, but as separate files |
| 15:11 |
Peacock |
i know VLC uses its own codecs |
| 15:11 |
thexyz |
.mkv is a container, it can contain stuff |
| 15:11 |
thexyz |
this stuff is encoded using different codecs |
| 15:11 |
Peacock |
the mplayer type players use the codecs you install through synaptic (or whatever package manager one has) |
| 15:11 |
thexyz |
most of time if stuff cannot be played this is because of codecs, not container |
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| 15:11 |
Peacock |
so its the VLC codecs that sucks |
| 15:11 |
thexyz |
mplayer uses builtin ffmpeg AFAIK IIRC |
| 15:12 |
hoodedice |
I don't care about video players. I watch only YouTube videos |
| 15:12 |
hoodedice |
=P |
| 15:12 |
Peacock |
i care about video players :P the p4 is essentially my tv |
| 15:12 |
hoodedice |
P4? |
| 15:13 |
Peacock |
and its important to hear the show/movie and not the fan |
| 15:13 |
hoodedice |
My P4 barely supported Tangled @ 720p |
| 15:13 |
Peacock |
core might be p4, but gfx card is 1yr old nvidia :p |
| 15:13 |
thexyz |
wow |
| 15:13 |
thexyz |
you'll have fun time |
| 15:13 |
hoodedice |
nViadia fan noise? |
| 15:13 |
Peacock |
heatsink fan noise |
| 15:13 |
Calinou |
le typo |
| 15:13 |
Peacock |
the only fan i havent changed lol |
| 15:14 |
thexyz |
when h265 gets popular |
| 15:14 |
Calinou |
tip: stock heatsinks suck |
| 15:14 |
Peacock |
stock everything sucks lol |
| 15:14 |
Peacock |
i didn't change any of the parts for fun, they died lol |
| 15:14 |
Peacock |
except the spare 1tb drive, but then the original 160gb drive died six months ago |
| 15:14 |
hoodedice |
heatsink fan noise is louder than GPU's LOL! |
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| 15:15 |
Jordach |
i use a p4 and it's SILENT. |
| 15:15 |
Peacock |
eventually when the p4 dies ill just cannibalize the good parts |
| 15:15 |
Peacock |
yeah but what OS are you running jordach? |
| 15:15 |
hoodedice |
I am gonna cannibalize next week |
| 15:15 |
Jordach |
Peacock, windows 7 |
| 15:15 |
hoodedice |
80 GB HDD, 1 GB DDR2 RAM and the fan |
| 15:15 |
Peacock |
i thought you said windows 2000 or ME last week |
| 15:15 |
hoodedice |
mboard and CPU can go to hell |
| 15:15 |
Jordach |
Peacock, it's also gained the nickname Admantine, i havent managed to break it |
| 15:16 |
Peacock |
i know because i made a comment about stealing library computers lol |
| 15:16 |
Jordach |
it survived everything i threw at it |
| 15:16 |
Calinou |
silent = can't be heard |
| 15:16 |
Calinou |
quiet = hard to hear |
| 15:17 |
Peacock |
the only two shows that causes the fan to be on all the time are ST DS9 and VOY (both in mkv containers) |
| 15:17 |
Peacock |
but the alternative torrents were of such shitty quality lol |
| 15:17 |
hoodedice |
TORRENTER !!!! |
| 15:17 |
Peacock |
probably encoded in the late 90s |
| 15:18 |
Peacock |
hoodedice why not? after purchasing a shit-ton of dvd's, and a dozen shitty dvd players, only to have bluray come out |
| 15:18 |
* Jordach |
agrees |
| 15:18 |
Peacock |
2/3's of the dvd's themselves stopped playing after a few years |
| 15:18 |
Peacock |
so ive already paid for my content one way or another |
| 15:18 |
hoodedice |
Oh, that's okay then |
| 15:18 |
Jordach |
fun fact: i don't torrent, but i my uncles media server uses apache to stream the torrented media :D |
| 15:19 |
Peacock |
the real pisser: you buy a movie, then they release a directors' cut, and an extended cut, etc. etc. |
| 15:19 |
hoodedice |
How do you torrent anyway? Aren't laws in Canada strict? |
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| 15:19 |
Peacock |
they do traffic shaping yes |
| 15:19 |
Peacock |
but even the politicians' kids do it |
| 15:19 |
Peacock |
if not the politicians themselves |
| 15:20 |
hoodedice |
=) |
| 15:20 |
Peacock |
it never takes long for a copyright troll to get hacked and have the contents of their drives revealed to the public lol |
| 15:21 |
Peacock |
in any case, hollywood wont have to worry about piracy much longer if they keep producing the kind of stuff theyve been putting out the last few years (or decade) |
| 15:22 |
Jordach |
absolute shit? |
| 15:22 |
hoodedice |
haha |
| 15:22 |
Peacock |
i swear to god i get the impression theyre working for the same 3-4 scripts |
| 15:22 |
Peacock |
*from the same |
| 15:22 |
hoodedice |
But The Dark Knight Rises was damn good |
| 15:22 |
hoodedice |
I didn't see the latest one |
| 15:22 |
Peacock |
JJ abrams has star trek and star wars in his pocket, garanteeing both will suck and have too many lens flares |
| 15:22 |
Calinou |
hoodedice: torrenting can be legal |
| 15:23 |
Peacock |
id rather watch german movies with subs lol |
| 15:23 |
Jordach |
btw, dont knock marvel's films as of late |
| 15:23 |
DanDuncombe |
Apparently someone is logged on VanessaE's server with my name, even though my name is passworded |
| 15:23 |
Jordach |
Iron Man 3 was awesome |
| 15:23 |
Peacock |
french movies don't need subs lol |
| 15:23 |
Jordach |
lol |
| 15:23 |
hoodedice |
Calinou : I implied illegal torrenting |
| 15:24 |
hoodedice |
Wondered how I got Xubuntu and FlightGear? |
| 15:24 |
DanDuncombe |
Also, I tried using the program Decoda and it is so hard to use. |
| 15:24 |
hoodedice |
Hard? |
| 15:24 |
Jordach |
TWSS |
| 15:24 |
hoodedice |
Maybe I liked it because I never used notepad++ |
| 15:25 |
hoodedice |
(Scrite and Decoda) |
| 15:25 |
DanDuncombe |
The window with code in is around 1 inch high and 2 across.Notepad++ is totally awesome. |
| 15:25 |
DanDuncombe |
Decoda has the tiny window, I mean. |
| 15:25 |
* Jordach |
uses N++ |
| 15:25 |
hoodedice |
Not scrite... |
| 15:25 |
hoodedice |
I forgot =/ |
| 15:25 |
* DanDuncombe |
approves of Jordahc. |
| 15:25 |
DanDuncombe |
*Jordach |
| 15:26 |
Peacock |
Jordache, a new breakfast spread :p |
| 15:26 |
Peacock |
they have this caramel here called Grenache lol |
| 15:27 |
hoodedice |
Alcoholic? |
| 15:27 |
DanDuncombe |
Instrucions: 1) Get a Jordach 2) Rename it Jordahc 3) Put in a Blender 4) Spread on toast |
| 15:27 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 15:27 |
Peacock |
now we need a Jordache breakfast mod :p |
| 15:28 |
Peacock |
toaster, toast, spread |
| 15:28 |
* Jordach |
slaps both DanDuncombe and Peacock at the same time |
| 15:28 |
Peacock |
plates and bowls with a little rooster on it? |
| 15:28 |
Jordach |
no and no. |
| 15:28 |
Peacock |
lol :p |
| 15:29 |
hoodedice |
AH ! |
| 15:29 |
hoodedice |
SCiTE |
| 15:29 |
hoodedice |
*SciTE |
| 15:29 |
hoodedice |
brb |
| 15:30 |
Peacock |
i cant wait for the city to turn the water back on, i need to use the throne :( |
| 15:30 |
Peacock |
damn idiots hit a gas main again (second time in two weeks) |
| 15:30 |
hoodedice |
Peacock |
| 15:30 |
hoodedice |
What's this thing in my city? |
| 15:30 |
hoodedice |
*nation |
| 15:30 |
hoodedice |
*dome |
| 15:31 |
Peacock |
freefull started building something i think |
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| 15:31 |
hoodedice |
He's in my dome? |
| 15:31 |
Peacock |
i can add another dome |
| 15:31 |
hoodedice |
How is it that I wasn't notified >.< |
| 15:31 |
Peacock |
you werent on and i didn't notice |
| 15:31 |
Peacock |
the wife did last night |
| 15:31 |
hoodedice |
No worries though |
| 15:31 |
hoodedice |
Just notify me next time |
| 15:31 |
Peacock |
i can grow the country and the dome, or add another dome while growing the country |
| 15:32 |
hoodedice |
Nothing for now, |
| 15:32 |
Peacock |
the wife wants to build a bioshock-type underwater city with tunnels |
| 15:32 |
* Jordach |
droolsm |
| 15:32 |
Jordach |
-m |
| 15:32 |
hoodedice |
So, only the entrance will be in this dome? |
| 15:33 |
Peacock |
well im not sure what FreeFull is trying to build yet :/ |
| 15:33 |
Peacock |
it looks to me like a giant pipe of some sort |
| 15:33 |
Peacock |
it leads out and down under the grass |
| 15:33 |
hoodedice |
Mine will be actually this type |
| 15:34 |
Peacock |
added nightclub and coloredglass btw |
| 15:34 |
Peacock |
nightclub without the lights (migraines) lol |
| 15:35 |
hoodedice |
https://www.google.com/search?q=Corellia&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=ogAJUp7IC82TrgepqIHgBQ&biw=1280&bih=905&sei=pgAJUqSBOYKFrAeDn4C4BA |
| 15:35 |
Peacock |
besides i have *enough* lights lol |
| 15:35 |
hoodedice |
I saw that additions |
| 15:35 |
hoodedice |
*those |
| 15:35 |
Peacock |
underwater? |
| 15:35 |
Peacock |
could be cool |
| 15:36 |
hoodedice |
Sorry, https://www.google.com/search?q=Corellia&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=ogAJUp7IC82TrgepqIHgBQ&biw=1280&bih=905&sei=pgAJUqSBOYKFrAeDn4C4BA#bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&channel=rcs&fp=7e2af5177544434&hl=en&q=Corellia+rogue+squadron&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB%3Aofficial&sa=1&safe=active&tbm=isch&um=1 |
| 15:36 |
Peacock |
i wanna build this and blueprint it: http://www.evolo.us/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/water-skyscraper-2.jpg |
| 15:36 |
Tesseract |
hoodedice: is.gd |
| 15:36 |
Peacock |
is it just me or are google search urls getting longer? lol |
| 15:36 |
hoodedice |
Sorry |
| 15:37 |
hoodedice |
Just google 'Corelia Rogue Squadron' is shorter =P |
| 15:37 |
Peacock |
wish their search had what youtube has: a quick share link |
| 15:37 |
hoodedice |
is.gd? |
| 15:37 |
hoodedice |
Is good? |
| 15:37 |
Peacock |
is god? |
| 15:38 |
Tesseract |
Also v.gd |
| 15:38 |
DanDuncombe |
Is dog |
| 15:38 |
DanDuncombe |
Very god |
| 15:38 |
hoodedice |
!is.gd |
| 15:38 |
Peacock |
!g is.gd |
| 15:38 |
MinetestBot |
Peacock: http://is.gd/ |
| 15:39 |
Peacock |
thats helpful |
| 15:39 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 15:39 |
FreeFull |
hoodedice: I can get rid of it |
| 15:39 |
FreeFull |
Peacock: It was meant to be a pipe thing |
| 15:39 |
hoodedice |
No worries |
| 15:39 |
hoodedice |
brb |
| 15:39 |
Peacock |
thats what i figured |
| 15:39 |
FreeFull |
Yeah, I'll get rid of it if it doesn't fit in |
| 15:39 |
Peacock |
well thats between you and hoodedice |
| 15:39 |
PenguinDad |
!g bit.ly |
| 15:39 |
MinetestBot |
PenguinDad: https://bitly.com/ |
| 15:40 |
Peacock |
like i said, if the country isn't big enough, i can double/triple it |
| 15:40 |
Peacock |
adding more domes is also easy |
| 15:41 |
Peacock |
jesus christ, seen the sinkhole in florida? |
| 15:41 |
FreeFull |
Weird |
| 15:42 |
FreeFull |
Chunks aren't loading |
| 15:42 |
Peacock |
what about now? |
| 15:42 |
Peacock |
(might have been due to loading images of sinkhole :/) |
| 15:43 |
FreeFull |
Nope, let me try reconnecting |
| 15:43 |
Jordach |
sinkhole? |
| 15:43 |
hoodedice |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23668885 |
| 15:44 |
FreeFull |
Works now |
| 15:44 |
Peacock |
in florida, nearly swallowed a condo building whole |
| 15:44 |
hoodedice |
!title |
| 15:44 |
MinetestBot |
hoodedice: BBC News - Sinkhole opens under Florida resort villa |
| 15:44 |
Peacock |
*resort villa |
| 15:44 |
hoodedice |
Looks bad |
| 15:44 |
Peacock |
so many sinkholes in the news lately |
| 15:44 |
Peacock |
unless they just went unreported before, one wonders if frackings' to blame |
| 15:45 |
hoodedice |
(,,, body was never recovered....) |
| 15:45 |
hoodedice |
*... |
| 15:45 |
Peacock |
well those sinkholes go deep |
| 15:48 |
DanDuncombe |
Aren't they sometimes 100m deep or more? |
| 15:48 |
hoodedice |
I remember this mine town. |
| 15:48 |
hoodedice |
Coal mines |
| 15:48 |
hoodedice |
Someone lit a ciggerettte or something |
| 15:48 |
hoodedice |
BOOM. Now ghost town |
| 15:49 |
Peacock |
Centralia, PA? |
| 15:49 |
DanDuncombe |
Remeber the thing about the oil train which crashed wiping out a whole village in a fireball. |
| 15:50 |
Peacock |
Lac Megantic, near here |
| 15:50 |
Peacock |
the company went under |
| 15:50 |
hoodedice |
Ya, that one |
| 15:51 |
Peacock |
there was another crash in Spain the same week too |
| 15:51 |
DanDuncombe |
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/y70vpkypkxkhvw8/NRGAywBhmd What do you think of it? |
| 15:51 |
DanDuncombe |
!title |
| 15:51 |
MinetestBot |
DanDuncombe: Dropbox - Submarine Screenshots |
| 15:52 |
DanDuncombe |
They are screenshots of a submarine I made. Please say what you think. |
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| 15:54 |
DanDuncombe |
Any suggestions for the prefab mod? |
| 15:55 |
DanDuncombe |
"why if you cant added images !p" says yohanes828. What does he mean by !p? |
| 15:56 |
PenguinDad |
:p == !p? |
| 15:56 |
DanDuncombe |
Probably, yes. |
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| 15:56 |
DanDuncombe |
What do you guys think of the submarine? |
| 15:58 |
DanDuncombe |
Is Jordach there? |
| 15:58 |
Jordach |
mhm |
| 15:58 |
hoodedice |
Is that a working submarine? |
| 16:00 |
DanDuncombe |
Can I commision you to make a .x model and textures of one of these? Please? http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQew0rZHxB8ztQQmNkDdAErflG6Zhmdteb-1Jc_SDcLaeBb6H4H |
| 16:00 |
DanDuncombe |
A concrete barge, made of concrete, is the intention. |
| 16:01 |
DanDuncombe |
hoodedice: It does not leak when Worldedited underwater. |
| 16:01 |
rubenwardy |
Hi all |
| 16:01 |
hoodedice |
Close enough |
| 16:02 |
DanDuncombe |
Also, I only learned yesterday that people have made working barges out of concrete. Then I saw this: http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR0f-u9Phmcsx1EPjcAl15JDmqB-WEF7i9c-gxUG6OY-5ktbtlH |
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| 16:02 |
DanDuncombe |
PilzAdam, may I use code from your boats mod? |
| 16:02 |
MinetestBot |
PilzAdam is back! |
| 16:03 |
PenguinDad |
Welcome back PilzAdam! |
| 16:03 |
PilzAdam |
thx |
| 16:03 |
Peacock |
Welcome back PulseAudio! |
| 16:03 |
DanDuncombe |
Jordach, is the commision possible? |
| 16:03 |
DanDuncombe |
*commission |
| 16:07 |
hoodedice |
Hey eacock |
| 16:07 |
hoodedice |
*Peacock |
| 16:07 |
Peacock |
howdy |
| 16:07 |
hoodedice |
So my bro wants to connect to the server |
| 16:07 |
hoodedice |
Same IP, same PC, different IDs |
| 16:07 |
Peacock |
could be tricky |
| 16:08 |
Peacock |
if you trust him not get himself banned |
| 16:08 |
DanDuncombe |
Jordach: Never mind, I'll try to do it. |
| 16:08 |
hoodedice |
(I expected that) |
| 16:08 |
Peacock |
since ban for him is ban for you |
| 16:08 |
hoodedice |
Do you trust 9 year olds? |
| 16:08 |
hoodedice |
(I don't) |
| 16:08 |
Peacock |
cuz ive had alot of griefers claim it was their kid/brother/sister doing the griefing, its not a new excuse around here lol |
| 16:08 |
hoodedice |
lol |
| 16:09 |
Exio4 |
Peacock: it was you griefing! |
| 16:09 |
hoodedice |
Think I'll keep him offline for now |
| 16:09 |
Peacock |
send him to another server :P |
| 16:09 |
Peacock |
if he gets banned there then youll know not to let him on lol |
| 16:09 |
hoodedice |
... |
| 16:09 |
DanDuncombe |
Send him to a harsh difficult server. |
| 16:09 |
hoodedice |
No other server as good as this one =) |
| 16:10 |
Peacock |
server-war in 3,2,1... |
| 16:10 |
Peacock |
:P |
| 16:10 |
hoodedice |
I think LandRush is the hardest |
| 16:10 |
Peacock |
well landrush uses protector blocks and doesn't have autoban |
| 16:10 |
Peacock |
i use x,z protection w/ autoban |
| 16:10 |
hoodedice |
Crafting goes over my head |
| 16:10 |
Peacock |
ah shit |
| 16:10 |
hoodedice |
I never used non-creative in my life |
| 16:10 |
Peacock |
i wanted to add a workbench along with the other two mods this morning |
| 16:11 |
hoodedice |
Ok, later |
| 16:11 |
hoodedice |
g2g |
| 16:11 |
Peacock |
me neither but i keep getting requests for crafting even though the grid wouldn't fit in the inventory lol |
| 16:11 |
hoodedice |
Sorry to cut the discussion |
| 16:11 |
Tesseract |
Peacock: Autoban = bad. I use lag to get out of protected traps often, and that would trigger a ban. |
| 16:12 |
Peacock |
autoban = very good |
| 16:12 |
Peacock |
otherwise i couldn't leave the server on without keeping an eye on it constantly |
| 16:12 |
DanDuncombe |
Does Blender 2.68 have a working .x exporter? |
| 16:12 |
Tesseract |
I won't play on any server with it because of that. |
| 16:12 |
PenguinDad |
Today is the birthday of Erwin Schrödinger! |
| 16:12 |
Peacock |
and i couldn't build so long as anyone else is connected |
| 16:12 |
Peacock |
rules are pretty simple and warnings plentiful |
| 16:12 |
Tesseract |
I run a server fine without autoban. |
| 16:13 |
Tesseract |
interact is not in the default privs though. |
| 16:13 |
Peacock |
jail isn't a challenge, its the last stop before a ban |
| 16:13 |
Peacock |
ive unjailed people who realized they shouldn't be digging in a given area |
| 16:13 |
Peacock |
griefers try to grief their way out, i let them get banned |
| 16:14 |
Peacock |
if they dont have the time to read the rules at spawn, i dont have the time to explain them |
| 16:14 |
Tesseract |
Greif out? They can't as the area is protected. |
| 16:14 |
Peacock |
exactly |
| 16:14 |
Peacock |
so either they calm down, or they get kicked out |
| 16:15 |
Peacock |
in fact, i think ill put another copy of the rules in the prison |
| 16:15 |
DanDuncombe |
I wish User Preferences in Blender worked. |
| 16:16 |
Tesseract |
Oh, and protection is form -32000 to 32000? |
| 16:16 |
DanDuncombe |
Jordach, are you there? |
| 16:16 |
Tesseract |
(y) |
| 16:16 |
Peacock |
i only count x,z yeah |
| 16:16 |
Peacock |
so a protected area owns all elevations |
| 16:16 |
Peacock |
otherwise people would be building shit ontop/underneath other people's stuff and it would be fugly |
| 16:16 |
Tesseract |
You should remove that, the deep and high protection areas make mining and platforms very dificult. |
| 16:17 |
Tesseract |
(See redcrab's server) |
| 16:17 |
Peacock |
well you either mine in freebuild, or in your own country, you shouldn't be stealing resources from another |
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| 16:18 |
Peacock |
whats the point in having protection if when you build your surface mine installation, you get down there and find out its all gone? |
| 16:19 |
Tesseract |
Why can't I mine under other's protected areas if I am deep and they are not using it? If it is a mine, or a skyscraper you make the protection area a little higher of deeper. |
| 16:19 |
Peacock |
so you buy a house, you dont mind if your neighbour extends his basement underneath your house because your's doesn't have one? |
| 16:20 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 16:20 |
Calinou |
Tesseract: because... THEY MIGHT USE IT AT SOME MOMENT:!!!!!!!!! |
| 16:20 |
Calinou |
</sarcasm> |
| 16:20 |
Calinou |
Peacock: I wouldn't |
| 16:20 |
Tesseract |
Not really, although I was thinking of digging at -100 or so. |
| 16:20 |
Peacock |
they might, and they might add floors to their houses/towers/whatevers |
| 16:21 |
Tesseract |
The protection wouldn't be to directly below the house, it would be a hundred nodes down or so. |
| 16:21 |
Tesseract |
s/by/go/ |
| 16:21 |
Tesseract |
be* |
| 16:22 |
Peacock |
it also reduces how much checking needs to be done, by a 1/3, * every place and dig node performed |
| 16:22 |
Peacock |
and it prevents having a gazillion protection zones |
| 16:23 |
Peacock |
i wont even grant one for single players, there needs to be at least two per zone |
| 16:23 |
Tesseract |
By half a nanosecond? |
| 16:23 |
Peacock |
it adds up |
| 16:23 |
Peacock |
my tools dont take a few seconds to dig |
| 16:23 |
Tesseract |
And how will that lower the number of protection zones. |
| 16:23 |
Peacock |
they dig instantly |
| 16:23 |
Tesseract |
+? |
| 16:24 |
Peacock |
by not having zones stacked one ontop the other |
| 16:24 |
Tesseract |
Are you really woried about a speed improvement of that little? |
| 16:24 |
Peacock |
notice i dont run a hundred mods |
| 16:25 |
* Jordach |
is considering re-doing the Sam II model |
| 16:25 |
Tesseract |
Most zones will be near ground level. Users that can't get an erea will either move out farther or quit with your model. |
| 16:25 |
DanDuncombe |
Jordach: Could you please make a small barge as a .x with no animations, designed to be a bit like a Mc boat? |
| 16:26 |
Peacock |
that is their choice |
| 16:26 |
Peacock |
id rather they quit then have to administer a complicated network of zones |
| 16:27 |
Peacock |
i dont care about quantity of players, only the quality of the things they build |
| 16:28 |
FreeFull |
Peacock: Dammit, I forgot you turned drowning off when I warped to prison |
| 16:28 |
FreeFull |
Funny how there is mese around though |
| 16:28 |
Peacock |
i didn't turn it off, unless they added a conf option between git versions |
| 16:28 |
FreeFull |
Weird |
| 16:28 |
FreeFull |
I don't drown anymore |
| 16:29 |
Peacock |
before people drowned in light, now they dont drown in water :P |
| 16:29 |
FreeFull |
At all |
| 16:29 |
Peacock |
no one is :/ |
| 16:29 |
FreeFull |
hoodedice said he drowns |
| 16:29 |
Tesseract |
There is a Lua callback for drowning. |
| 16:29 |
FreeFull |
Wifi castration? |
| 16:29 |
Peacock |
lemme check the water def from the latest minetest_game, im still running an ancient deriv of an old minetest_game |
| 16:30 |
Peacock |
i may have had a few beers when i wrote that lol |
| 16:30 |
FreeFull |
Heheh, got mese now though |
| 16:30 |
Peacock |
sampling it i assume? :p |
| 16:30 |
FreeFull |
Yep =P |
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| 16:31 |
FreeFull |
Fuu |
| 16:31 |
FreeFull |
Just overwrote it with something else =P |
| 16:31 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 16:31 |
Peacock |
you could mine it too though |
| 16:32 |
FreeFull |
But that's effort =P |
| 16:32 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 16:32 |
FreeFull |
And it's not as if you added workbenches yet |
| 16:32 |
FreeFull |
So I can't make anything |
| 16:32 |
Peacock |
i had to remove that and dilithium from the inv, otherwise ppl would be putting shields all over the place |
| 16:32 |
FreeFull |
Also, I just found out you can sample fruit, so you only ever need to grow one orange =P |
| 16:32 |
Peacock |
aha |
| 16:32 |
Peacock |
i suspected as much |
| 16:33 |
Peacock |
i have to add drowning =1 to water def |
| 16:33 |
FreeFull |
And then restart? |
| 16:33 |
Tesseract |
Peacock: cd /home/minetest/minetest_game && git pull |
| 16:34 |
Peacock |
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/423/untitle.JPG |
| 16:34 |
Peacock |
i stopped updating minetest_game when mese started changing weekly |
| 16:35 |
Tesseract |
Mese changed? |
| 16:35 |
Peacock |
a long time ago lol |
| 16:36 |
Tesseract |
It changed once, not weekly. |
| 16:36 |
Peacock |
it changed a few times |
| 16:36 |
Peacock |
the crafting, the crystals, the textures |
| 16:37 |
Peacock |
besides the response then was, if you dont like the changes, make your own default game, and thats what alot of us did |
| 16:37 |
Peacock |
can't complain now |
| 16:38 |
Peacock |
and its alot better than getting pissy about every little thing like what PilzAdam had to put up with trying to update the game |
| 16:38 |
Peacock |
amirite? |
| 16:38 |
Tesseract |
It was all changed in one commit, and you are very far behind then... If you are so woried about CPU time you should update, there have been some major speed improvements in the mapgen. |
| 16:39 |
Peacock |
mapgen.lua is essentially the same with more ores in it |
| 16:39 |
Peacock |
unless im not seeing something |
| 16:39 |
Tesseract |
Like using minetest.register_ore()? |
| 16:41 |
Peacock |
mine still seems to use register_on_generated, but even then, i can change that part without having to update the whole of default and re-implement my changes |
| 16:42 |
Tesseract |
Just use a old-mese mod. |
| 16:42 |
DanDuncombe |
Jordach: If I sent you a blend file, could you export it as .x and make it texturable? |
| 16:42 |
Peacock |
well thats like installing a mod to get rid of items when simply reversing item drops fixes the problem |
| 16:43 |
Jordach |
DanDuncombe, later |
| 16:43 |
Jordach |
i'm trying to make a new Animatic model (i really want to redo it.) |
| 16:43 |
* Jordach |
is also in the mood for workinhg |
| 16:43 |
Tesseract |
Peacock: Or a build script if you prefer... |
| 16:43 |
DanDuncombe |
It will take me a while to make Jordach, I haven't even started yet. |
| 16:44 |
Peacock |
i would but im not crazy about bash or whatever other thing i'd have to learn to do it lol |
| 16:44 |
Peacock |
i have enough to learn on the website-creation front lol |
| 16:44 |
Peacock |
ppl keep asking for fancy shit that will be out of fashion in a few years lol |
| 16:45 |
Tesseract |
Peacock: Ask VanessaE about that, she uses a build script for her game. |
| 16:45 |
Peacock |
though im glad the days of flash intros are gone lol |
| 16:45 |
Peacock |
she has a build script and a custom conf i think |
| 16:45 |
Peacock |
not sure what the conf does different tho |
| 16:46 |
Peacock |
is it optimized for a uber-powerful computer, or optimized to run faster on slower comps? |
| 16:46 |
Tesseract |
Of course she has a custom conf, it would be hard to run a server without writing your own. |
| 16:47 |
Peacock |
well yeah but ive only added half a dozen lines |
| 16:47 |
Peacock |
i dont really tinker with options i dont fully comprehend otherwise |
| 16:47 |
Peacock |
i assume the defaults are fine in those cases |
| 16:48 |
Tesseract |
Well then you have to read minetest.conf.example. :-) |
| 16:48 |
Peacock |
i do lol |
| 16:48 |
Peacock |
but its not always 100% obvious either |
| 16:48 |
Peacock |
i notice some installers have this "optimizing for your hardware"stage |
| 16:49 |
Peacock |
that would be cool for generating custom confs |
| 16:49 |
thexyz |
that's like gentoo |
| 16:49 |
Peacock |
well gentoo compiles everything specific to your profile? |
| 16:49 |
Peacock |
(hardware profile i mean) |
| 16:50 |
Calinou |
it claims to, it actually doesn't :P |
| 16:50 |
Peacock |
lol ive never tried it so i wont guess |
| 16:50 |
thexyz |
yeah |
| 16:50 |
thexyz |
just add -mnative |
| 16:50 |
Calinou |
5% faster :P |
| 16:50 |
thexyz |
-march=native, that is |
| 16:51 |
Peacock |
on a dualcore i possibly wouldn't mind compiling everything, but not on the p4 lol |
| 16:51 |
Peacock |
there aint enough beer at the corner store |
| 16:51 |
thexyz |
well you can use distcc |
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| 16:51 |
Peacock |
!g distcc |
| 16:51 |
MinetestBot |
Peacock: https://distcc.googlecode.com/ |
| 16:52 |
thexyz |
only do if much free time |
| 16:52 |
Peacock |
whereas linux usually comes with, gcc? |
| 16:52 |
Peacock |
yeah lol |
| 16:53 |
Calinou |
most distros use gcc, yes |
| 16:54 |
Peacock |
with the exception of trying mpv, i wont try to play too much with the p4's OS, its getting harder and harder to get things to install properly the older it gets |
| 16:54 |
Peacock |
heck a year after i bought it, the proprietary-graphics-thingy ceased to support the original card on it |
| 16:54 |
Peacock |
much tearing ensued |
| 16:55 |
thexyz |
tearing is awful |
| 16:55 |
thexyz |
i only got rid of it with compton |
| 16:56 |
Peacock |
!g compton |
| 16:56 |
MinetestBot |
Peacock: http://www.comptoncity.org/ |
| 16:56 |
thexyz |
NOPE |
| 16:56 |
Peacock |
well the proprietary drivers for nvidia and ATI both have tearfree options which i use |
| 16:56 |
thexyz |
https://github.com/chjj/compton |
| 16:56 |
thexyz |
this didn't work for me |
| 16:56 |
Peacock |
tearfree didn't work |
| 16:56 |
Peacock |
? |
| 16:56 |
thexyz |
`./compton --vsync=opengl` did the trick |
| 16:57 |
Calinou |
tearfree is slower |
| 16:57 |
Calinou |
I don't notice tearing when moving windows, it's too fast |
| 16:57 |
Peacock |
i notice tearing only started with the compositing desktops |
| 16:57 |
thexyz |
Peacock: what options are you talking about? "sync to vblank"? |
| 16:57 |
Peacock |
*noticed |
| 16:58 |
Peacock |
hmm, amdcccle just says Tear Free, |
| 16:58 |
Peacock |
i assume its sync to vblank, alot of FAQs and threads told me to try that |
| 16:58 |
thexyz |
yeah, that didn't work for me |
| 16:58 |
Peacock |
and even then, tearing only happen with compositing desktops and certain media players |
| 16:59 |
Peacock |
so try finding a thread or faq with any one combination of hardware, DE and media player lol |
| 16:59 |
Calinou |
tearing is more visisble in games with compositing on for me |
| 16:59 |
Calinou |
(and reduces FPS, a lot) |
| 16:59 |
thexyz |
for me dcompmgr worked the best, but it eats 100% of cpu for some reason and is not supported |
| 17:00 |
Peacock |
also, for tearfree to work, i have to have compositing on |
| 17:00 |
Peacock |
old standards colliding with new i guess lol |
| 17:01 |
DanDuncombe |
Jordach, can you please change this to .x? https://www.dropbox.com/s/qd63hiolhkw6wvk/boat.blend |
| 17:01 |
Jordach |
DanDuncombe, mhm |
| 17:01 |
thexyz |
also, regarding video talk, it's too bad windows has got all the nice things |
| 17:01 |
thexyz |
like http://www.svp-team.com/ |
| 17:01 |
Jordach |
:D |
| 17:02 |
Peacock |
even vlc works better on windows and its opensource so you'd think it'd be tops on linux |
| 17:02 |
thexyz |
no, you shouldn't use vlc |
| 17:02 |
Peacock |
with all the malware running in the background on win lol |
| 17:02 |
Peacock |
malware/spyware/etc |
| 17:03 |
Peacock |
and toolbars, so many toolbars lol |
| 17:03 |
thexyz |
on win you're supposed to use mpc-hc i think |
| 17:03 |
DanDuncombe |
Jordach, thanks. It shouldn't take long, as it is small. |
| 17:03 |
thexyz |
with http://www.cccp-project.net/ codec pack |
| 17:03 |
Peacock |
i wonder what the browser looks like if the user allows each installer to place it's toolbar lol |
| 17:03 |
DanDuncombe |
There are no animations either |
| 17:03 |
DanDuncombe |
Peacock: I did that once, and half the screen was toolbar. |
| 17:04 |
PenguinDad |
!title |
| 17:04 |
MinetestBot |
PenguinDad: CCCP - Combined Community Codec Pack |
| 17:04 |
DanDuncombe |
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qd63hiolhkw6wvk/boat.blend |
| 17:04 |
DanDuncombe |
!title |
| 17:04 |
MinetestBot |
DanDuncombe: Dropbox - boat.blend |
| 17:04 |
Peacock |
when i heard compton earlier i immediately thought of tupac lol |
| 17:04 |
thexyz |
vlc: http://i.imgur.com/BmF52.jpg |
| 17:04 |
DanDuncombe |
!title |
| 17:04 |
MinetestBot |
DanDuncombe: Document isn't HTML |
| 17:04 |
thexyz |
i think i posted this one earlier |
| 17:05 |
Peacock |
which one is vlc? |
| 17:05 |
thexyz |
http://i.imgur.com/kUzlm.jpg |
| 17:05 |
thexyz |
um, both |
| 17:05 |
Peacock |
ahh the side-by-sides are better :-) |
| 17:06 |
Peacock |
well even i haven't had that bad an image with VLC, its mostly the occasional tearing and pixelation, and some movies, audio time delays |
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Peacock |
lol www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyIOKcRubFY |
| 17:07 |
PilzAdam |
!title |
| 17:07 |
MinetestBot |
PilzAdam: Document isn't HTML |
| 17:08 |
Peacock |
odd |
| 17:08 |
PilzAdam |
!title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyIOKcRubFY |
| 17:08 |
MinetestBot |
PilzAdam: Stop VLC Player stuttering when playing HD MKV files! - YouTube |
| 17:08 |
PenguinDad |
Hello sapier1 |
| 17:08 |
thexyz |
i thought it'll just tell you to download another player |
| 17:08 |
sapier1 |
hello |
| 17:08 |
Peacock |
yeah vlc just cant handle mkv's properly |
| 17:10 |
DanDuncombe |
Jordach, have you exported it yet? |
| 17:10 |
Peacock |
sucks mpv aint in the repos ill have to compile |
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Peacock |
which gstreamers do i need, good/bad/evil? |
| 17:10 |
Jordach |
DanDuncombe, i'm busy atm |
| 17:10 |
DanDuncombe |
How long till you can do it, Jordach? |
| 17:10 |
Jordach |
probably tomorrow |
| 17:10 |
PilzAdam |
thats what she said |
| 17:11 |
Peacock |
^ old meme is old :p |
| 17:11 |
thexyz |
Peacock: you need ugly |
| 17:11 |
DanDuncombe |
Jordach, when you do it, can you pm meon the forum with a download link? Thanks. |
| 17:11 |
Jordach |
alright |
| 17:11 |
thexyz |
Peacock: i'm not sure why do you need gstreamer |
| 17:12 |
Peacock |
i thought mplayer used those? |
| 17:13 |
thexyz |
dunno |
| 17:13 |
Peacock |
may be wrong, but it was my understanding vlc has its own codecs builtin, but the other players use gstreamer? |
| 17:14 |
DanDuncombe |
Can an entity have a formspec? |
| 17:14 |
Peacock |
you can use show_formspec |
| 17:14 |
sapier1 |
danduncombe have a look at mobf trader |
| 17:14 |
DanDuncombe |
Ok. |
| 17:15 |
DanDuncombe |
But can I make it s, say, when you press B when attached to the entity, it opens the inventory? |
| 17:15 |
sapier1 |
don't hesitate to ask trader has a lot of more features |
| 17:15 |
sokomine |
the traders are great |
| 17:15 |
DanDuncombe |
Because right-clicking it makes you 'disembark' from the boat. |
| 17:16 |
sapier1 |
you only have access to movent keys as far as I know |
| 17:16 |
DanDuncombe |
Ok |
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| 17:20 |
* Jordach |
has finally worked out better arms :) |
| 17:20 |
DanDuncombe |
Big-ass boat http://s23.postimg.org/dkavxg24b/screenshot_3137960.png |
| 17:23 |
Peacock |
i wish someone would make the boat mod into an elevator mod (up and down motion) :p |
| 17:24 |
DanDuncombe |
It shouldn't be too hard- look at the helicopter mod, maybe |
| 17:25 |
Peacock |
the trickyest bit is having a single-piece elevator box |
| 17:25 |
Peacock |
essentially using an oversized nodebox |
| 17:25 |
Peacock |
and a custom inventory_image /item |
| 17:26 |
Peacock |
and then, youd need an elevator door that when you open, the box appears behind it, cuz theres probably no way to call an entity that might be two dozen floors above, it wouldn't be loaded |
| 17:27 |
DanDuncombe |
Bye guys |
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| 17:35 |
PenguinDad |
Hello Schweineschwarte |
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| 17:37 |
Schweineschwarte |
hello, I have a problem with minetest. the view is very small... here a picture: http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/3346/ihpotuyv_png.htm and here the outputcode von the console: http://openpaste.org/51C241De |
| 17:37 |
Schweineschwarte |
can help me someone to solve this problem, please? :) |
| 17:37 |
PilzAdam |
resize the window a bit |
| 17:38 |
PilzAdam |
that paste link says "500 - Server error" |
| 17:38 |
Peacock |
are we sure the ban works on names as well as IPs, cuz im seeing the same names i banned yesterday and the day before |
| 17:40 |
Jordach |
Schweineschwarte, scale the window just a little |
| 17:40 |
Jordach |
(even if it's a few pixels) |
| 17:40 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, thx for repeating what I said :-p |
| 17:41 |
Schweineschwarte |
yes, with rescale of the window it works :) but I must rescale the windows everytime I start Minetest :( |
| 17:41 |
PilzAdam |
what Irrlicht version do you use? |
| 17:42 |
Schweineschwarte |
is it possible to change this permanent? :) |
| 17:42 |
Schweineschwarte |
I use Irrlicht 1.8.0 |
| 17:43 |
PilzAdam |
the actual release? |
| 17:44 |
Schweineschwarte |
I play with Minetest 0.4.7 |
| 17:45 |
Calinou |
screenW = N |
| 17:45 |
Calinou |
screenH = N |
| 17:45 |
Calinou |
where N are pixels |
| 17:45 |
Calinou |
put that in your minetest.conf |
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PilzAdam |
Peacock, we dont have nick bans |
| 17:48 |
PilzAdam |
bans are only done by IP |
| 17:48 |
Peacock |
ah damn lol |
| 17:48 |
Peacock |
should be either/or |
| 17:49 |
Peacock |
+ ip ranges |
| 17:50 |
Peacock |
or add the show_ip pull request and ill code the lua myself :P |
| 17:50 |
PilzAdam |
the nick is just there for description of the ban |
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| 17:51 |
PilzAdam |
!dev get_player_ip |
| 17:51 |
PilzAdam |
MinetestBot? |
| 17:51 |
Peacock |
on strike for better pay :p |
| 17:51 |
PilzAdam |
anyway, Peacock, there already is minetest.get_player_ip() |
| 17:51 |
Peacock |
get_player_ip was pulled? nice |
| 17:51 |
Schweineschwarte |
@Calinou: no that not work really. The only effect is, that the total windows is lager, but the gameview stay small. |
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PenguinDad |
Schweineschwarte: have you tried latest git of minetest? |
| 17:52 |
Jordach |
MinetestBot! |
| 17:52 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach! |
| 17:52 |
PenguinDad |
Hello MinetestBot |
| 17:52 |
MinetestBot |
sup PenguinDad! |
| 17:52 |
Schweineschwarte |
@PenguinDad: I have the minetestversion 0.4.7 from the offical opensuse repositories |
| 17:54 |
PenguinDad |
AFAIK there was one fix for Irrlicht 1.8.0 in latest git |
| 17:56 |
Schweineschwarte |
@PenguinDad: ok, then I wait for the new version :) |
| 17:59 |
PenguinDad |
Schweineschwarte: you don't need the @ before names ;) |
| 17:59 |
Exio4 |
this isn't twitter |
| 18:00 |
PilzAdam |
PenguinDad, why do you recommend him the dev version? |
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Schweineschwarte |
ok, PenguinDad ;) |
| 18:00 |
sapier1 |
maybe because most mods only work with it? ;-) ... I know this shouldn't be but it is |
| 18:01 |
PenguinDad |
PilzAdam: I don't recommend the dev version or do i? |
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| 18:01 |
PilzAdam |
I thought you meant it like this |
| 18:01 |
sapier1 |
you have: (19:54:46) PenguinDad: Schweineschwarte: have you tried latest git of minetest? |
| 18:01 |
PenguinDad |
My mod works with 0.4.6, too. |
| 18:02 |
PilzAdam |
anyway, you generally shouldnt recommend the dev version if you dont exactly know that there was a commit that fixed the problem |
| 18:02 |
Peacock |
hmm, if anyone sees paramat, ask for lightrain mod :D |
| 18:02 |
PenguinDad |
Oh I haven't noticed that :/ |
| 18:07 |
NekoGloop |
meow |
| 18:09 |
* PenguinDad |
hands NekoGloop a fish out |
| 18:09 |
NekoGloop |
:3 |
| 18:09 |
* NekoGloop |
noms the fishy |
| 18:09 |
* sfan5 |
throws a kitten at PenguinDad |
| 18:10 |
Peacock |
can i redefine minetest.ban_player() even though its not defined in /builtin? |
| 18:10 |
* PenguinDad |
catches the kitten |
| 18:10 |
PilzAdam |
no |
| 18:10 |
Peacock |
ill have to implement a seperate function and call minetest.ban_player through it |
| 18:10 |
sfan5 |
umm |
| 18:10 |
sapier1 |
? you can define anything but not sure if it'll do what you want it to do |
| 18:10 |
sfan5 |
you can redefine c++ functions too |
| 18:11 |
Peacock |
oh yeah? sweet |
| 18:11 |
sapier1 |
it's lua not c++ |
| 18:11 |
sfan5 |
s/c++/from c++/ |
| 18:11 |
sapier1 |
but if course if you define ban_player it'll replace the original one |
| 18:11 |
Peacock |
id do local basic_ban = minetest.ban_player and redefine minetest.ban_player to include ip range and nick banning |
| 18:11 |
sfan5 |
Peacock: that would work |
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| 18:11 |
Peacock |
sapier1 i'd be saving/referencing the old function to another name |
| 18:11 |
sapier1 |
yes that'd work but you shouln't do that |
| 18:12 |
Peacock |
why not? |
| 18:12 |
sapier1 |
if any other mod relies on ban_player to behave the original way this will result in strange problems |
| 18:12 |
sfan5 |
and you mod won't need to be loaded first except other mods have a local copy of minetest.ban_player |
| 18:12 |
Peacock |
well its not for publication its just for my server |
| 18:12 |
PilzAdam |
or, maybe you can |
| 18:13 |
Peacock |
so far i dont think any of my mods localizes minetest.ban_player |
| 18:13 |
sapier1 |
you should tell if you report any mod problems that may be related to it ;-) |
| 18:13 |
Peacock |
except the autoban script, which is where ill stick the new ban function |
| 18:13 |
Jordach |
Peacock, make the mod scamble the player file |
| 18:13 |
Peacock |
scamble? |
| 18:13 |
Jordach |
eg, fill with random numbers |
| 18:13 |
sfan5 |
scramble |
| 18:14 |
Peacock |
what would that do? |
| 18:14 |
Jordach |
to the engine: it looks like a corrupted player file |
| 18:14 |
Jordach |
they also lose all their shit |
| 18:14 |
Peacock |
i just want to prevent people from coming back with a different name or ip |
| 18:15 |
Peacock |
well if they can't come back what does it matter if they can access their inv :p |
| 18:15 |
Peacock |
if they come back then ive obviously failed lol |
| 18:15 |
sapier1 |
you risk destroying other players data |
| 18:15 |
Peacock |
yeah no i dont wanna crash the server for the cheap thrill of ruining someone's inv lol |
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| 18:16 |
Peacock |
which is of no consequence if this works |
| 18:16 |
Peacock |
im a lazy sob lol i like to ban people once, and if they persist, ban the next 255 IPs they might use lol |
| 18:17 |
sapier1 |
in general ip banning isn't very usefull |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
for someone with a static IP, it is |
| 18:17 |
Peacock |
yeah well when i saw the names stored in the banlist i thought the engine checked those too |
| 18:17 |
sapier1 |
for some special cases it may be an option but most time you'll risk banning wrong person |
| 18:18 |
Peacock |
but i already have a joinplayer function to check for guest names, so adding an array of nicname=true isn't much trouble |
| 18:19 |
Peacock |
though pretty soon ill come up with a full string match to check that a player has lowercase letters in their name and no more than two digits |
| 18:19 |
Peacock |
people who pick long complicated names obviously do it because its a bitch to ban lol |
| 18:20 |
BrandonReese |
I blocked the whole 87.172. IP range because of a hacker |
| 18:20 |
Peacock |
ill keep an eye out for that |
| 18:20 |
Peacock |
have you gotten an invisible player? |
| 18:20 |
Peacock |
possibly by the name of aeriel? |
| 18:21 |
BrandonReese |
Sorry 84.172, no my problem player was ano_ubeccu, rotor112 and DS |
| 18:21 |
Peacock |
ive had DS, didn't grief on mine |
| 18:21 |
Peacock |
rotor didn't last long |
| 18:21 |
Peacock |
other guy never seen |
| 18:21 |
BrandonReese |
did he fly through walls? |
| 18:21 |
Peacock |
naw, if they do i ban on sight |
| 18:22 |
Peacock |
in any case, next on my list is a python script that gets called on shutdown, creates a unique zip of the world |
| 18:23 |
BrandonReese |
Are you on Linux or Windows? |
| 18:23 |
Peacock |
linuses |
| 18:23 |
Peacock |
(plural :P) |
| 18:23 |
Peacock |
python because i need the script to sleep to make sure minetest shutdown before trying to zip up the worldpath |
| 18:23 |
Peacock |
if its anything like mapper, it wont work while running |
| 18:23 |
PenguinDad |
Linuses is the plural of my real name :o |
| 18:24 |
Jordach |
^ Linux |
| 18:24 |
Jordach |
Linus* |
| 18:24 |
BrandonReese |
ok you confused me for a minute. My startup script backs up before startup, just cp's to another directory |
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Peacock |
that could work too, is it posted somewhere? |
| 18:25 |
iqualfragile |
sdl2 will be released this week! HL3 confirmed |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
so distro repos will finally have it? :D |
| 18:27 |
BrandonReese |
Here is my startup script/auto restart script and backup script |
| 18:27 |
BrandonReese |
http://pastebin.com/xE23Kb30 |
| 18:28 |
sapier1 |
sdl2? |
| 18:28 |
iqualfragile |
yep |
| 18:28 |
PenguinDad |
Calinou: In 6 months is it in the repos :P |
| 18:28 |
sapier1 |
what is sdl2? |
| 18:28 |
iqualfragile |
SDL version 2 |
| 18:28 |
sapier1 |
ohhh :-) |
| 18:28 |
sapier1 |
version 2? wow |
| 18:29 |
Calinou |
fixes: copy-paste on linux, key input |
| 18:29 |
Peacock |
oh thanks :-)_ |
| 18:29 |
Calinou |
adds bugs: buggy alt-tab |
| 18:29 |
Peacock |
i suck at bash lol |
| 18:29 |
Peacock |
i can literally bash a printer, but thats about it lol |
| 18:29 |
iqualfragile |
adds awsomenes: multiple mouses supported |
| 18:30 |
BrandonReese |
that's about the extent of my bash skills |
| 18:31 |
Peacock |
i had simply made a launcher to start minetestserver in the terminal lol |
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Tesseract |
BrandonReese: You should try my python script, it uses rsync and makes maps. |
| 18:39 |
Tesseract |
http://ix.io/7eo |
| 18:39 |
PenguinDad |
!title |
| 18:39 |
MinetestBot |
PenguinDad: Document isn't HTML |
| 18:40 |
Tesseract |
PenguinDad: ix.io shows you raw paste data. It is a terminal pastebin. And you don't need to run !title on every link... |
| 18:41 |
PilzAdam |
PenguinDad, use /msg MinetestBot !title [link] |
| 18:41 |
PenguinDad |
sorry |
| 18:44 |
Peacock |
minetest.get_player_ip() works with name or playerobj? |
| 18:44 |
Tesseract |
Peacock: Name. |
| 18:44 |
Peacock |
thsnkd |
| 18:44 |
Peacock |
*thanks |
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Peacock |
when the localhost is connected, its always 127.0.0.1? |
| 18:57 |
Peacock |
(gonna test ip-range banning on wan) |
| 18:58 |
Evergreen |
I am sad, it is the last day before school. :( |
| 18:58 |
sapier1 |
ip-range baning? thats evil :-( |
| 18:59 |
* Exio4 |
bans *!*@* |
| 18:59 |
Peacock |
alot of people think i am so it suits me :P |
| 18:59 |
Jordach |
awww |
| 18:59 |
sapier1 |
problem with ip range baning is most isps use rather big networks so you need to ban a whole isp in order do have any effect |
| 19:00 |
Peacock |
and the problem with not having it is griefers aren't dumb, they release/renew ip and come back |
| 19:00 |
Peacock |
besides even the channels op's use it here, so how evil can it be? |
| 19:01 |
sapier1 |
it's a "last option" action a op decides to do ... I assumed you want to use a automated way of baning am I wrong? |
| 19:01 |
Peacock |
no the ip ranges are static in the script, nick-banning is automated though by overwriting minetest.ban_player |
| 19:02 |
* sokomine |
puts exio4 in a singleplayer world where there's nothing around |
| 19:02 |
Peacock |
besides aren't you the guy that wrote the security hardon? i thought you'd like it |
| 19:03 |
Exio4 |
the main problem is: ips are uber-dynamic or static |
| 19:03 |
Exio4 |
you change it every 15 seconds or you can't change it |
| 19:03 |
Exio4 |
that is the "problem" |
| 19:03 |
Exio4 |
and the ips are reused |
| 19:04 |
thexyz |
inb4 griefers learn to use vpn |
| 19:05 |
Peacock |
whadda want me to say? i cant spend all my time banning the same people |
| 19:05 |
Peacock |
if theyre setting up vpn's to grief then they have alot more time on their hands than i thought lol |
| 19:05 |
sokomine |
maybe you just ought to revoke their interact. if they're griefers, they might be pretty dumb and take some time to notice |
| 19:06 |
Peacock |
why so they can bullshit the admin on the forum to get interact, and when they get caught, blame their "brother"? lol |
| 19:06 |
Peacock |
or kid sister lol |
| 19:06 |
sokomine |
brothers are extremly popular for that kind of thing :-) if you ask, it's almost always some sibling or another who did the griefing |
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Peacock |
theyll say anything to get interact and deflect blame anyhow, at least this way i can spot them right away |
| 19:07 |
sokomine |
maybe you ought to ask "do you have any siblings?" at the beginning - and ban people who admit to have some :) |
| 19:07 |
Peacock |
when the "sibling" happens to be using the same nick, i have my doubts :p |
| 19:07 |
* Jordach_ |
is surprised no-one is greifing with TOR |
| 19:08 |
Peacock |
this situation really does suck though, theres not much incentive for others to setup servers if they spend all their time dealing with this sortof thing :p |
| 19:08 |
Tesseract |
Peacock: In single player it is always 127.0.0.1 or ::1 |
| 19:09 |
Tesseract |
However in multiplayer it can be, for example, 192.168.1.2 or <public ip address> |
| 19:09 |
sokomine |
it's the same on minecraft servers. at least on classic. i've to ban by now about 10 players before i find one who manages to build a simple guest house and can thus be accepted as a real player on the server |
| 19:09 |
Peacock |
1.2 is fine, the wan 192.168.2.* |
| 19:10 |
Peacock |
seriously, real players use freebuild, good builders get citizenship, but very few make it to that tier lol |
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sokomine |
some are children. they may be bored/might not know what to do. i've seen players who - withhin one or two hours - griefed, built houses, defended other peoples houses against other griefers, griefed those griefers houses etc. |
| 19:14 |
Peacock |
i dont really care if its first strike or retaliation, griefing is no lol |
| 19:14 |
Peacock |
<Data> Down is good, up is no :p |
| 19:15 |
sokomine |
is that why you made ground level 10 blocks below cloud level or so? :) |
| 19:15 |
sokomine |
my poor building is covered by clouds half of the time! |
| 19:17 |
Peacock |
ground level is where its supposed to be :P i raised the sea to y=100 :P |
| 19:18 |
Peacock |
and i disabled clouds at my end, since my towers always pass them lol |
| 19:20 |
sokomine |
i see them travelling through my building at the top floor :-( and it's not that high |
| 19:20 |
Peacock |
unfortunately i cant disable clouds at the server end |
| 19:21 |
sokomine |
you could have made a flat world out of water i guess |
| 19:21 |
sokomine |
but for now...please rescue me from your prison! i beamed there out of curiosity and didn't find a way out |
| 19:21 |
Peacock |
i still wanted a ground level, with an underground to mine/build |
| 19:21 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 19:24 |
Jordach_ |
BTW, i just revised my Sam II model |
| 19:24 |
Peacock |
id better find a way to disable the prison button on the console lol |
| 19:25 |
sokomine |
how can further stations be added? |
| 19:25 |
Peacock |
i add them lol |
| 19:25 |
Peacock |
i used to leave it up to the players |
| 19:25 |
Peacock |
after two days i had ten pages |
| 19:25 |
sokomine |
for the prison: just build a place for visitors where they can look inside and leave again. and maybe buy some cake :) |
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| 19:27 |
Peacock |
was drae jailed or did he go there himself? |
| 19:27 |
Peacock |
im pretty sure he got himself banned yesterday |
| 19:28 |
Jordach_ |
sokomine, did you see this? http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/311/mystery.png |
| 19:28 |
Jordach_ |
i want to leave it there for a week (i have already finished that render) |
| 19:29 |
sokomine |
possibly. he asked how long it took to get free again |
| 19:29 |
Peacock |
yeah screw him i saw he tried to dig the pad |
| 19:29 |
Peacock |
he wont be able to come back when i restart with the new ban |
| 19:29 |
sokomine |
oooh! a whole mt-family! cute! |
| 19:30 |
Jordach_ |
sokomine, keep an eye out on my renders topic |
| 19:30 |
Jordach_ |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105141#p105141 |
| 19:30 |
Jordach_ |
^ that being one of then |
| 19:30 |
sokomine |
jordach: can you do textures/skins for mt as well? i need skins for the inhabitants of my villages |
| 19:30 |
* Jordach |
does do that |
| 19:31 |
* sokomine |
looks hopefully at jordach in this case :-) |
| 19:31 |
* Jordach |
needs more than just an idea to skin from |
| 19:31 |
sokomine |
that's understandable. what i need is a man and women who live as farmers. the buildings are rather medieval, but i wouldn't fix clothing on that |
| 19:32 |
Calinou |
fun fact: my Minecraft skin is a black guy like that |
| 19:32 |
Calinou |
(less visible :) |
| 19:32 |
Jordach |
sokomine, fun fact: the castle skyblock render has two custom skins by me in it (three if you count Sam II) |
| 19:32 |
sokomine |
hmm. i'll see if i can find a photo somewhere that comes close |
| 19:32 |
Jordach |
sokomine, i made a skin based off of VanessaE's old forum avatar |
| 19:32 |
sokomine |
your renders look fine :-) |
| 19:33 |
Jordach |
the older ones are jokes compared to my new ones :P |
| 19:33 |
Jordach |
i also have a template human model so any skins that are different, i make one from a cloned template |
| 19:34 |
Jordach |
(which technically means all players in minetest share the identical genes; sounds really strange.) |
| 19:34 |
Jordach |
btw, new generation of models incoming |
| 19:35 |
sokomine |
sounds fine :-) |
| 19:35 |
sokomine |
they don' |
| 19:35 |
sokomine |
they don't have to be too detailed, though more detailed models might work as well. the mobs will be mobf-ones |
| 19:36 |
Jordach |
1st: stu's elbows and knees, 2nd: custom models made from Taoki's model, 3rd: custom models worked even further, larger eyes for more expressions, body can now bend over (not like that :P) |
| 19:37 |
missbows |
is damn a bad word ? |
| 19:37 |
Calinou |
yes |
| 19:37 |
missbows |
oh..... |
| 19:37 |
NekoGloop |
meow |
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kaeza |
there are no good words or bad words; it depends on context |
| 19:40 |
kaeza |
also, greetings |
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aldobr |
hi ahi all |
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| 19:48 |
mitori |
hello everyone |
| 19:48 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 19:48 |
mitori |
can someone tell me this one little simple thing - what height do nyan cats start spawning? |
| 19:48 |
Jordach |
New Animation Model Get: http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/312/newmodel.png |
| 19:49 |
Jordach |
(for now, no mouth) |
| 19:50 |
Peacock |
weird, whats wrong with : IPRBANS[192] = { 168 = {2 = true},} |
| 19:50 |
Jordach |
(i'm using the child texture because i had a misclick) |
| 19:51 |
Tesseract |
mitori: minetest_game/mods/default/mapgen.lua |
| 19:53 |
Tesseract |
Peacock: How about iprbans = {["192.168.2"] = true} |
| 19:53 |
Peacock |
its multi-dim table |
| 19:53 |
Tesseract |
I know. |
| 19:53 |
Exio4 |
IPBANS sounds like a C macro |
| 19:53 |
* Exio4 |
preprocesses Peacock |
| 19:53 |
Tesseract |
How does that work with IPv6? |
| 19:53 |
* Calinou |
libboosts Exio4 |
| 19:54 |
Peacock |
when more than two people use ipv6 ill worry about it lol |
| 19:54 |
Exio4 |
you could just make an array for matches |
| 19:54 |
Exio4 |
ipbans = {"192.168.2.*", "whatever::*"} |
| 19:54 |
Exio4 |
(or how you could do that in lua, i don't know it) |
| 19:54 |
Peacock |
hm, |
| 19:55 |
Peacock |
how would i string match an ip to an array key? |
| 19:55 |
Exio4 |
it would be, 1) easy to code, 2) provide easy adaptation |
| 19:55 |
Exio4 |
Peacock: what? |
| 19:56 |
Peacock |
if i use the ip range as a key, it wont match any of the input IPs since its missing a block |
| 19:56 |
kaeza |
Peacock, array[s] ? |
| 19:56 |
Peacock |
and i was hoping to avoid looping through it |
| 19:56 |
Tesseract |
local ip = minetest.get_player_ip(name) for _, match in pairs(ipbans) do |
| 19:56 |
Exio4 |
use luajit |
| 19:57 |
Tesseract |
if ip:find(match) then mibetest.ban_player(name) end end |
| 19:57 |
kaeza |
MB? |
| 19:57 |
kaeza |
:D |
| 19:57 |
Peacock |
in other words, how do i make an entry in a multi-dim array on one line? |
| 19:57 |
kaeza |
derp |
| 19:57 |
Peacock |
would be nice if i could just do IPRBANS[192][168][2] = true, but lua wont let you |
| 19:58 |
Exio4 |
i don't know how to code that in lua |
| 19:58 |
kaeza |
Peacock, yes, you can |
| 19:58 |
Exio4 |
:P |
| 19:58 |
Tesseract |
Peacock: That is a bad way to do it. Do iprbans[192.."."..168.."."..2.."\..*"] = true |
| 19:58 |
Peacock |
kaeza just tried "attempt to index a nil value" |
| 19:59 |
kaeza |
IPRBANS = { [192] = { [168] = { [2] = true } } } |
| 19:59 |
kaeza |
or actually, more complex than that |
| 19:59 |
Tesseract |
kaeza: That overwrites the table. |
| 19:59 |
Peacock |
or |
| 19:59 |
Tesseract |
s/"\."/\\./g |
| 19:59 |
kaeza |
Peacock, you need to keep track of every "dimension" separately |
| 20:00 |
Peacock |
table.insert(IPRBANS,{ [192] = { [168] = { [2] = true } } }) |
| 20:00 |
kaeza |
eh no |
| 20:00 |
aldobr |
kaeza: hi |
| 20:00 |
Peacock |
that overwrites each key too lol |
| 20:00 |
kaeza |
hi aldobr |
| 20:00 |
aldobr |
im working on a gcode interpreter for minetest |
| 20:00 |
aldobr |
to allow designing things with freecad and importing into minetest world |
| 20:00 |
Peacock |
lua wont let ya do IPRBANS[192][168][2] = true without initializing *each* dimension lol |
| 20:01 |
Tesseract |
Peacock: This is a very, very, very, very, very, very hacky and ugly way to do this. |
| 20:01 |
Peacock |
looping through an array is like taking the scenic route, especially with more entries |
| 20:02 |
Peacock |
cuz i grab the player IP, split by '.', and check each block |
| 20:02 |
kaeza |
Peacock, http://pastebin.com/zRiXNy6G |
| 20:02 |
kaeza |
something like that |
| 20:02 |
Peacock |
rather than loop through each entry and do a string match on each |
| 20:02 |
aldobr |
aint a array able to hold [192][168] etc fill 4gb ? |
| 20:02 |
Tesseract |
Peacock: No, it will be much more efficient, and Lua can go through hundreds of bilions of entries in miliseconds. |
| 20:03 |
kaeza |
actually, it is a hacky way, yes |
| 20:03 |
kaeza |
but regex matching is sloooooow |
| 20:03 |
Peacock |
i like to avoid it whenever possible lol |
| 20:04 |
kaeza |
Peacock, with my paste, you can do for example add_ip(123,45,67,true) to ban 123.45.67.* |
| 20:04 |
Tesseract |
Peacock: Even if you ban half the players on your server (I actually wouldn't be surprised) it should be plenty fast. |
| 20:04 |
sokomine |
depends...if it's executed once for all regexps when a player joins on peacocks' server, it most likely will not be a big problem |
| 20:05 |
kaeza |
oh derp, forgot the is_ip_banned |
| 20:06 |
Peacock |
that parts done, it was just adding entries to the thing lol |
| 20:06 |
kaeza |
Peacock, paste updated |
| 20:07 |
Peacock |
gonna see if my wife is ip range banned lol |
| 20:07 |
kaeza |
now it's up to you how to split the IP address into individual components |
| 20:08 |
kaeza |
(may actually be useful for other things too) |
| 20:09 |
Peacock |
shit, i was sposed to use my external ip lol |
| 20:09 |
Peacock |
trying again |
| 20:09 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 20:10 |
aldobr |
:/ |
| 20:11 |
Peacock |
16:10:10: ACTION[ServerThread]: LadyMacBeth banned [ip-range] |
| 20:11 |
Peacock |
works :-) |
| 20:11 |
Peacock |
now to unban before she gets back :/ lol |
| 20:11 |
Calinou |
MacBethMacBethMacBethMacBethMacBethMacBethMacBeth |
| 20:11 |
Calinou |
*Peacock gets struck by lightning* |
| 20:12 |
kaeza |
[17:02:49] <aldobr> aint a array able to hold [192][168] etc fill 4gb ? |
| 20:12 |
Peacock |
nick ban also works :-) |
| 20:12 |
kaeza |
nope |
| 20:12 |
aldobr |
so its not a true matrix but a sparse matrix |
| 20:12 |
aldobr |
nice |
| 20:13 |
kaeza |
yep |
| 20:13 |
aldobr |
but spart matrixes get slower as you fill then |
| 20:13 |
aldobr |
*sparse |
| 20:13 |
aldobr |
well |
| 20:13 |
aldobr |
my project is ruined |
| 20:14 |
aldobr |
the slicer is too complex to install correctly |
| 20:14 |
aldobr |
most people wont be able to |
| 20:14 |
sokomine |
what does it do? |
| 20:14 |
aldobr |
it takes a 3d object and creates a series of layers |
| 20:14 |
aldobr |
you input a 3d cad file and it generates g-code for cnc mill |
| 20:15 |
sokomine |
and what are the layers about? i'm not very familar with 3d objects and their modelling |
| 20:15 |
aldobr |
my plan was to write a lua g-code interpreter |
| 20:15 |
sokomine |
aah |
| 20:15 |
sokomine |
for a real machine or for mt? |
| 20:15 |
aldobr |
for mt |
| 20:15 |
aldobr |
:D |
| 20:15 |
aldobr |
installed the whole perl set of libs and includes |
| 20:15 |
aldobr |
and yet more to install |
| 20:16 |
kaeza |
aldobr, actually, since Lua tables are actually mappings, and the keys have no limits, you can fill up any amount of memory given enough time :) |
| 20:16 |
aldobr |
need a easier 3d slicer |
| 20:16 |
sokomine |
good luck with it! sounds like a nice idea |
| 20:16 |
kaeza |
even if e.g. lua_Number is a long double (or whatever is the largest builtin data type in the C language) |
| 20:17 |
kaeza |
more so with strings :P |
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kaeza |
or...whatever |
| 20:18 |
aldobr |
hm |
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aldobr |
man |
| 20:26 |
aldobr |
i have to go to the technical school and the thing is still installing perl dependencies |
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thexyz |
minetest.net down |
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PilzAdam |
seems so |
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* sfan5 |
can confirm |
| 20:40 |
kaeza |
yep |
| 20:40 |
PilzAdam |
somone care to tell celeron? |
| 20:40 |
sfan5 |
seems to be a TTL problem |
| 20:40 |
sfan5 |
"From vlan190.car2.Phoenix1.Level3.net (4.53.110.25) icmp_seq=2 Time to live exceeded" |
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thexyz |
shit guys |
| 20:48 |
thexyz |
we should hide offtopic to guests |
| 20:48 |
thexyz |
*from |
| 20:48 |
thexyz |
but whatever |
| 20:48 |
PilzAdam |
yea |
| 20:48 |
PilzAdam |
is that possible? |
| 20:48 |
thexyz |
yeah, done |
| 20:49 |
thexyz |
i've decided that quality of "offtopic" section is impossible to improve |
| 20:49 |
Peacock |
could reban ragnar lol |
| 20:49 |
Peacock |
kidding |
| 20:49 |
* sdzen |
claps slowly |
| 20:50 |
thexyz |
butthurt incoming in … … … |
| 20:50 |
Peacock |
he'll probably find a way on his own lol |
| 20:51 |
jin_xi |
ellipsis ellipsis |
| 20:51 |
Peacock |
10$ says its a beastiality pic next time :p |
| 20:52 |
sdzen |
hmmm |
| 20:52 |
sdzen |
time to call cornernote? |
| 20:53 |
sdzen |
can we ban him for having an IQ of 12? |
| 20:54 |
thexyz |
no |
| 20:54 |
thexyz |
because equality |
| 20:55 |
* sdzen |
is a socialist |
| 20:55 |
thexyz |
also, I adblocked all avatars and guess what, discussion quality drastically improved! |
| 20:56 |
sdzen |
now turn off colored text |
| 20:56 |
sdzen |
:) |
| 20:56 |
sdzen |
coloured* |
| 20:56 |
thexyz |
there isn't much colored text |
| 20:58 |
Peacock |
lol https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105272#p105272 |
| 20:59 |
sdzen |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105285#p105285 is he correcting himself without editing? |
| 21:00 |
Peacock |
he's DPing lol |
| 21:01 |
sdzen |
in advance, nothing against autism testfags |
| 21:04 |
Peacock |
what i dont get is the radical difference between avatars, which is the real one? |
| 21:04 |
kaeza |
Aang |
| 21:06 |
Calinou |
sdzen: be nice to people; don't insult them |
| 21:07 |
Peacock |
if you have nothing nice to say, crack open their skulls and feast on the warm goo inside :P XD |
| 21:07 |
Peacock |
wasnt that from, the simpsons or something? |
| 21:09 |
Peacock |
oh shit, stop and frisk in NYC ruled unconstitutional, some faith in humanity restored |
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kaeza |
oh nice! when quoting a post with an [img] tag, only the URL is quoted |
| 21:15 |
Calinou |
upvoting Elementary OS trolls in NYC ruled legal |
| 21:15 |
Calinou |
</meanwhile at reddit> |
| 21:15 |
Calinou |
kaeza: yep, since a few days ago |
| 21:16 |
thexyz |
sdzen: this post is acceptable on 4chan only |
| 21:17 |
Peacock |
well im lost lol |
| 21:18 |
Peacock |
!g Elementary OS |
| 21:18 |
MinetestBot |
Peacock: http://elementaryos.org/ |
| 21:19 |
Peacock |
wow, looks like an apple store lol |
| 21:20 |
Calinou |
le flash video homepage |
| 21:20 |
Calinou |
"$10" lol'd |
| 21:20 |
Peacock |
10$ for what exactly? |
| 21:20 |
Calinou |
at least they recommend 64 bit by default |
| 21:20 |
Peacock |
the webdesigner? |
| 21:20 |
Calinou |
Peacock: they suggest a donation |
| 21:21 |
thexyz |
you can get it for free |
| 21:21 |
thexyz |
there's a link right below the button |
| 21:22 |
Peacock |
i guess it depends what they use it for, i dont even like giving to charities anymore since finding out how much some of those people earn (and take in adminstrative fees) |
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| 21:38 |
Peacock |
i'd donate to adblock tho, they rock |
| 21:43 |
NekoGloop |
the whole point of donating to adblock is to pay them directly |
| 21:44 |
NekoGloop |
It's not like they're covering it up with "help the homeless" or "cure for cancer" |
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| 21:49 |
Peacock |
thats the thing |
| 21:49 |
Peacock |
id rather buy a homeless person some breakfast/lunch |
| 21:49 |
Peacock |
cuz 10$ to a charity, they get maybe 3-4$ from that in value |
| 21:50 |
Peacock |
the rest goes to managing the organization itself |
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| 21:55 |
Pam |
Hello all, I a new to this whole minetest thing |
| 21:56 |
Pam |
I was woundering if someone can walk me through step by step how to create a flat singleplayer world |
| 21:57 |
Pam |
I know it |
| 21:58 |
Pam |
I know its kind of annoying of me |
| 21:58 |
Pam |
to be all noob like |
| 21:58 |
Pam |
But it would really mean lot |
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Pam |
Anyone? |
| 22:05 |
sdzen |
hello |
| 22:05 |
sdzen |
https://forum.minetest.net/search.php?search_id=711134179 |
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sdzen |
what you need to know from there would be setting mg_flags = flat |
| 22:07 |
sdzen |
in your minetest.conf |
| 22:08 |
sdzen |
you will also want to add trees, caves, v6_jungles, dungeons, |
| 22:08 |
sdzen |
to the mg_flags if you wish |
| 22:12 |
Pam |
Your link leads to nothing |
| 22:12 |
Pam |
Do I make the world flat before I enter it |
| 22:16 |
sdzen |
did you read what I said under the links |
| 22:18 |
Pam |
Yes, I don't understand |
| 22:18 |
Pam |
Should I create the world first? |
| 22:19 |
PilzAdam |
Pam, I could lead you |
| 22:19 |
Pam |
That would amazing |
| 22:19 |
sdzen |
no don't create it first |
| 22:19 |
PilzAdam |
first of all: what OS do you use? |
| 22:19 |
Pam |
What's os |
| 22:19 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 22:19 |
Peacock |
gl |
| 22:19 |
PilzAdam |
operating system, like "windows" or "linux" |
| 22:19 |
Pam |
Oh, I use Windows Vista |
| 22:19 |
Peacock |
"fisher price", etc. |
| 22:19 |
PilzAdam |
how did you install Minetest? |
| 22:20 |
Pam |
Went to the website and followed what it said |
| 22:20 |
Pam |
Runs good in multiplayer |
| 22:20 |
Pam |
I want to create a singleplayer flat world |
| 22:20 |
PilzAdam |
so you have a minetest folder somewhere, that has stuff like "bin/" etc. in it? |
| 22:20 |
Pam |
Yes |
| 22:20 |
PilzAdam |
there is a file called minetest.conf in it |
| 22:21 |
Pam |
One sec, I will check |
| 22:21 |
Pam |
I have a few folders the a conf file and a example file |
| 22:22 |
PilzAdam |
good |
| 22:22 |
Pam |
the example file is called minetest.conf |
| 22:22 |
PilzAdam |
you open conf file with notepad |
| 22:22 |
Pam |
Okay let me open it |
| 22:22 |
Pam |
It's open, filled with a bunch of stuff |
| 22:23 |
PilzAdam |
ok, in this file there are several settings |
| 22:23 |
PilzAdam |
each line is one setting |
| 22:23 |
PilzAdam |
with the part in front of the "=" being the name, and the part after it the value |
| 22:24 |
Pam |
okay |
| 22:24 |
Pam |
I understand |
| 22:24 |
PilzAdam |
you are now going to add a new setting: add a new line and type: mg_flags = |
| 22:24 |
Pam |
all the way at the bottom |
| 22:24 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
| 22:25 |
PilzAdam |
it doesnt really matter where you put it, but be sure its in an extra line |
| 22:25 |
Pam |
okay on a new line I wrote mg_flags = |
| 22:25 |
PilzAdam |
then after the "=" you put a list of different settings |
| 22:25 |
PilzAdam |
e.g. mg_flags = caves, flat, trees |
| 22:26 |
PilzAdam |
that will tell the mapgenerator, to create a flat world with caves and trees |
| 22:26 |
Pam |
Do I space after = |
| 22:26 |
Pam |
I wrote it like mg_flags =e.g. mg_flags = caves, flat, trees |
| 22:26 |
PilzAdam |
the line should look like: |
| 22:26 |
PilzAdam |
mg_flags = caves, flat, trees |
| 22:27 |
PilzAdam |
(I just repeated the mg_flags part the second time, but you are not supposed to type that multiple times) |
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Pam |
Okay So it looks like this |
| 22:28 |
Pam |
mg_flags = caves, flat, trees |
| 22:28 |
PilzAdam |
fine, save the file |
| 22:28 |
Pam |
okay |
| 22:28 |
Pam |
Now create a world |
| 22:28 |
PilzAdam |
start minetest and create a world and go into it |
| 22:31 |
Pam |
Oh wow |
| 22:31 |
Pam |
It worked |
| 22:31 |
PilzAdam |
nice |
| 22:31 |
Pam |
Thank You Pilzadam |
| 22:31 |
Pam |
Now any world I create will be flat |
| 22:31 |
PilzAdam |
the setting is now copied over to the world directory |
| 22:31 |
Pam |
This does not effect multiplayer right |
| 22:31 |
PilzAdam |
it stays flat when you remove the line from the config file |
| 22:31 |
PilzAdam |
the setting is only read at creation |
| 22:32 |
Pam |
Awesome |
| 22:32 |
PilzAdam |
it does not effect multiplayer, since the server runs the map |
| 22:32 |
Pam |
Thank you for helping me |
| 22:32 |
PilzAdam |
np |
| 22:32 |
Pam |
Sorry I was such a noob |
| 22:32 |
Pam |
or came off rude |
| 22:32 |
PilzAdam |
there are tons of settings to play arround with in minetest.conf |
| 22:32 |
Pam |
Thank you |
| 22:32 |
Peacock |
epic fail: "INSTRUCTOR SHOOTS STUDENT IN OHIO GUN SAFETY CLASS" |
| 22:32 |
Peacock |
sorry for caps (AP news) |
| 22:32 |
Pam |
lol |
| 22:33 |
Peacock |
i can picture "and this is how you not do it" lol |
| 22:33 |
Pam |
Alright I am going to have fun |
| 22:33 |
Pam |
take care |
| 22:33 |
Peacock |
must be the Basil Fawlty of gun safety lol |
| 22:33 |
Pam |
ty again |
| 22:33 |
PilzAdam |
Pam, if you want to edit the conf file in the future: lines starting with a # will be ignored |
| 22:33 |
Pam |
k |
| 22:33 |
Pam |
good to know |
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iqualfragile_ |
night gents |
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NekoGloop |
meow |
| 23:01 |
VanessaE |
hi all |
| 23:02 |
* NekoGloop |
curls up in VanessaE's lap |
| 23:04 |
VanessaE |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105283#p105283 <--- "ohhh... SHIT." |
| 23:06 |
PilzAdam |
that aint "oh shit" |
| 23:06 |
PilzAdam |
thats more like seeing your grandparents doing.... |
| 23:06 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 23:07 |
VanessaE |
<Abe> heh. |
| 23:08 |
PilzAdam |
I would expect the mouth to be open, then it would be "ohhh..... SHIT" |
| 23:14 |
Peacock |
oh shit face with the camera suspisciously cut off lol |
| 23:14 |
Peacock |
hm, spelling fail lol |
| 23:15 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: but, I mean "oh shit.", not "oh shit!". There's a subtle difference :) |
| 23:16 |
PilzAdam |
> I mean <- I though it was Abe? |
| 23:17 |
Peacock |
Shinzo Abe, the Japanese PM? |
| 23:17 |
VanessaE |
no, "I" in this case because I had to transcribe what he said :) |
| 23:19 |
Tesseract |
Taoki|away: http://kylej.name/irc-away-status.html |
| 23:20 |
Tesseract |
Anyone got a Minetest DoS script? >:-) |
| 23:20 |
Peacock |
if he's away then he can't hear you :P |
| 23:21 |
Tesseract |
Peacock: For when he comes back. |
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PilzAdam |
we should make MinetestBot autokick *idle* and *away* |
| 23:21 |
VanessaE |
no, we shouldn't. |
| 23:22 |
VanessaE |
you may as well kick anyone who hasn't spoken for 10-15 mins as well |
| 23:22 |
Tesseract |
ssh -p 12345 shadowbot computer... |
| 23:22 |
Tesseract |
;-) |
| 23:22 |
Peacock |
DoS is illegal last i checked |
| 23:22 |
Tesseract |
Peacock: For testing on my own servers of course. |
| 23:22 |
Peacock |
of course :p |
| 23:22 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: DOS should have been illegal before it ever.. oh wait. |
| 23:22 |
VanessaE |
:P |
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hoodedicw |
ouch |
| 23:23 |
Peacock |
i think even sharing that kind of sw is illegal in my country |
| 23:23 |
Tesseract |
LOL VanessaE. |
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PilzAdam |
hoodedice, you know, there is this thing called "/nick" |
| 23:24 |
* Tesseract |
is trying to do it in both python and C++, and failing... |
| 23:24 |
PilzAdam |
it doesnt require your computer to reboot to change your nick |
| 23:24 |
hoodedice |
ohkay, thanks |
| 23:24 |
hoodedice |
Do you think my PCs can reboot that fast ? |
| 23:24 |
Tesseract |
There isn't any documentation on anything but the initial connection. |
| 23:24 |
VanessaE |
mine used to :P |
| 23:24 |
PilzAdam |
SSD + Linux and you got your shell in 5 seconds |
| 23:24 |
VanessaE |
(the new SSD should be here on Thursday) |
| 23:24 |
PilzAdam |
maybe less |
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hoodedice |
Windows. HDD. |
| 23:25 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: from POST to desktop, 20 seconds give or take. |
| 23:25 |
hoodedice |
Not less than 5 minutes |
| 23:26 |
PilzAdam |
if windows decideds to update then you can just go buy a new computer |
| 23:26 |
Peacock |
even on hdd #! loads pretty fast |
| 23:26 |
VanessaE |
#! (crunchbang)? |
| 23:27 |
* Jordach |
has noticed kaeza and VanessaE like the 3rd Sam model |
| 23:27 |
hoodedice |
It's been updating everyday since the last two weeks |
| 23:27 |
* sdzen |
computer running windoz startup 2:53 linux 0:57 |
| 23:27 |
Jordach |
and yes. i've been playing Borderlands 2 btw |
| 23:27 |
hoodedice |
Windows XP |
| 23:27 |
Peacock |
crunchybang yeah |
| 23:28 |
Jordach |
plol |
| 23:28 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: so the look means...? |
| 23:28 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, it grants better usage of expressions |
| 23:29 |
hoodedice |
It's like OH MAH GAWD ! |
| 23:30 |
hoodedice |
PilzYo, Xubuntu gets u running in a minute. |
| 23:30 |
hoodedice |
*UP |
| 23:30 |
VanessaE |
"You did what? To who? FOR HOW MANY COOKIES!?" |
| 23:30 |
hoodedice |
I DID NOT JUST SEE THAT ! |
| 23:30 |
PilzAdam |
CAPSLOCK PARTY! |
| 23:30 |
* Jordach |
YAWNS |
| 23:30 |
JORDACH |
SOLVED. |
| 23:30 |
* NekoGloop |
BITES JORDACH |
| 23:30 |
Peacock |
*no performing sexual favours for sudafed on the public channels* |
| 23:32 |
ICEISAWESOME |
INDEED |
| 23:32 |
PilzAdam |
"ICE" as in the german train? |
| 23:32 |
ICEISAWESOME |
!g everquest next |
| 23:32 |
MinetestBot |
ICEISAWESOME: https://www.everquestnext.com/ |
| 23:33 |
ICEISAWESOME |
Ok, I saw this a few minutes ago. |
| 23:34 |
PilzAdam |
why does every new MMO game has half naked elves? |
| 23:34 |
VanessaE |
fanservice, why else? |
| 23:34 |
PilzAdam |
oh well, *MMORPG |
| 23:34 |
VanessaE |
same reason every game seems to feature at least one female model with G-cups. |
| 23:34 |
ICEISAWESOME |
I was thinking about the voxel-nature of this game -.- |
| 23:35 |
hoodedice |
(Is it voxel anyway?) |
| 23:36 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, <3 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105303#p105303 |
| 23:36 |
PilzAdam |
;-) |
| 23:36 |
PilzAdam |
hoodedice, cant see anything voxely in that page |
| 23:37 |
hoodedice |
Indeed, I noiticed it later |
| 23:37 |
hoodedice |
I must be sleepy |
| 23:37 |
Peacock |
a forum for two people lol |
| 23:37 |
hoodedice |
I'm gonna join if they start lua |
| 23:37 |
hoodedice |
-.- |
| 23:37 |
Peacock |
who gets to be the admin, who gets to be the moderator, and who will they moderate/admin over? |
| 23:37 |
hoodedice |
ALL of them |
| 23:37 |
* Jordach |
prefers Minetest Forums |
| 23:37 |
PilzAdam |
hoodedice, you really take that tutorial stuff serious? |
| 23:38 |
hoodedice |
(No.) |
| 23:38 |
hoodedice |
(But then again, I don't really lua |
| 23:38 |
hoodedice |
*) |
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| 23:40 |
PilzAdam |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/866#issuecomment-22498184 |
| 23:40 |
PilzAdam |
can anyone understand that guy? |
| 23:42 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: I've done something similar before actually. |
| 23:42 |
hoodedice |
I don't get it? |
| 23:42 |
hoodedice |
Slows down dude in air? |
| 23:42 |
VanessaE |
I think he means HybridDog's comment |
| 23:43 |
hoodedice |
Dog's comment looks ironic |
| 23:43 |
VanessaE |
with this guy's fix, no more Mario-style jump-turns :( |
| 23:43 |
VanessaE |
:D |
| 23:43 |
hoodedice |
Oh. |
| 23:43 |
* Jordach |
comes back to the channel with warm buttery toast |
| 23:44 |
* VanessaE |
steals the toast |
| 23:44 |
* PilzAdam |
noms the toats |
| 23:44 |
Jordach |
i havent eaten all day :P |
| 23:44 |
VanessaE |
you're nom'ing toads? |
| 23:44 |
hoodedice |
I got it |
| 23:44 |
hoodedice |
all velocity would instantly slow to a stop. |
| 23:45 |
hoodedice |
I didn't read that line before |
| 23:45 |
Jordach |
mmm, better; nothing like a midnight snack |
| 23:46 |
Jordach |
btw: i might have worked out how to do a mouth |
| 23:46 |
Jordach |
it's actually really simple |
| 23:46 |
Jordach |
(it needs 8 bones) |
| 23:46 |
hoodedice |
8 bones? |
| 23:47 |
hoodedice |
Quoting PilzAdam : "Not voxel enough" |
| 23:47 |
VanessaE |
8 bones just to move two lips, a jaw, and presumably the tongue? |
| 23:47 |
Jordach |
nope. the lips need 4 points to make smiles, frowns, etc |
| 23:47 |
Jordach |
think about it |
| 23:47 |
Jordach |
look at a real human mouth, two in the centre, two on outside |
| 23:48 |
hoodedice |
52 muslces to make a frown, they say |
| 23:48 |
VanessaE |
ah, I didn't think of smiles et.al |
| 23:48 |
VanessaE |
et al. * |
| 23:49 |
VanessaE |
just open/close |
| 23:50 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, that's how gen 2 worked |
| 23:50 |
Jordach |
i might end up making JSF |
| 23:50 |
Jordach |
Jordach's (Animatic) Skin format |
| 23:51 |
PilzAdam |
http://youtu.be/Aj_eaclFPWE |
| 23:51 |
VanessaE |
!title |
| 23:51 |
MinetestBot |
VanessaE: Revenge - Behind the Scenes - YouTube |
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| 23:52 |
hoodedice |
craft? |
| 23:52 |
PilzAdam |
its about a Minecraft animation |
| 23:52 |
VanessaE |
the funniest one of those minecraft ones I've seen so far was one I think Jordach pointed to recently |
| 23:52 |
hoodedice |
Giving Jordach inspiration? |
| 23:53 |
Jordach |
recently? |
| 23:53 |
Jordach |
hold on a tick. |
| 23:53 |
Peacock |
minecraft? someone hold his legs, ill fetch a rug :P |
| 23:53 |
Jordach |
if we use the MC skin format, why not make our own animatic models |
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| 23:53 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: it had "that guy" (not sure it was Steve) along with a zombie and Slenderman, fighting several creepers. |
| 23:53 |
Jordach |
and yes, i've tried to understand other's blender rigs myself btw |
| 23:54 |
Jordach |
good google chrome, it knew what you said VanessaE |
| 23:54 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 23:57 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRchUwaZ6YA |
| 23:57 |
Jordach |
!title |
| 23:57 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: Creeper Encounter - A Minecraft Animation - YouTube |
| 23:57 |
Jordach |
oh, and: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4QILyDk3TM <- new one :) |
| 23:57 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: yep, that( first one)'s the one. |
| 23:58 |
Jordach |
jesus CHRIST |
| 23:58 |
VanessaE |
your models are rapidly getting to that ^^ point, too |
| 23:58 |
Jordach |
i spotted something in his animation |
| 23:58 |
Jordach |
and it's the same problem i had with my model |
| 23:58 |
VanessaE |
(I watch with the sound off) |
| 23:58 |
Jordach |
(identical.) |
| 23:59 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 23:59 |
VanessaE |
(horse trying to cut his rope with a torch :D ) |
