Time Nick Message 00:03 Exio4 lol 00:03 Exio4 is MT in softonic? 00:03 Exio4 lol. 00:04 sdzen http://minetest.en.softonic.com/ 00:04 sdzen looks like it 00:05 Exio4 0.4.7 Beta 12/06/13 00:05 sdzen love how its not compatible with linux 00:05 PilzAdam "GPL"? 00:05 PilzAdam thats wrong 00:05 Exio4 sdzen: yeah, that too 00:05 PilzAdam at least they link the source 00:06 Exio4 and minetest.net 00:06 Exio4 (developer) 00:06 PilzAdam SoftonicDownload_for_minetest.exe? wtf?! 00:06 PilzAdam *downloader# 00:06 PilzAdam -# 00:06 Jordach IT'S A TRAP 00:06 sdzen softonic has its own download manager pilzadam 00:07 sdzen I actually like how they added beta 00:07 Exio4 minetest never had "beta" releases 00:08 Exio4 it is, "still", alpha 00:08 sdzen something tells me there will never be a beta release 00:08 sdzen we are not that organized 00:08 Exio4 i think we will never get it either 00:09 sdzen always in dev 00:09 Exio4 because you can't finish a game like this 8) 00:09 sdzen so I think it deserves to be in perpetual beta 00:09 sdzen alpha sounds too rusty 00:09 Exio4 it is actually that rust 00:09 Exio4 i don't think alpha or beta are real names 00:09 Exio4 the versions are good enough 00:10 Exio4 0.4.7, 0.48 00:10 Exio4 s/48/4.8/ 00:10 sdzen its all greek to me 00:10 sdzen :) 00:10 Exio4 s/real/good/ 00:23 sdzen softonics website is broken :( 00:23 sdzen the finish button on my review of minetest wont work 00:28 kaeza I tried to download once from Softonic years ago 00:29 kaeza they were "Yo dawg, I herd u liek downloading, so I made you download a downloader, so you can download a downloader for your download" 00:31 kaeza actually with more levels, since I tried to download the Chrome Installer (which is a downloader itself) 00:32 kaeza also, most of the time their "direct links" don't work 00:33 Exio4 https://www.ohloh.net/languages/lua 00:33 Exio4 Jeija, PilzAdam.. 00:34 PilzAdam :D 00:34 Exio4 no 00:34 Exio4 it isn't :D 00:35 PilzAdam no? 00:36 Exio4 you need to say \:D/ 00:36 * Exio4 runs 00:36 Exio4 :P 01:18 Tesseract :-( Android 4.3 messed up my root, even with a su copy. 01:22 leo_rockway is there a way to remove all unknown nodes with a command? 01:22 leo_rockway also, hi 01:22 leo_rockway o.o 01:23 leo_rockway the vines mod kind of got out of control... 01:23 kaeza hi leo_rockway 01:24 kaeza maybe modify PilzAdam's clean mod 01:24 leo_rockway I'll look for it, thank you. 01:25 kaeza or some magic involving worldedit, the WE API, and chatcommands :P 01:26 leo_rockway or... fire! o.o 01:26 kaeza that works too 01:27 PilzAdam kaeza, you just said my nick, that means you will get 7 days of luck 01:27 kaeza yay luck! 01:27 * kahrl sets up a weekly cronjob to ping PilzAdam 01:28 PilzAdam !op 01:29 PilzAdam !deop 01:29 leo_rockway I'm afraid I have to ask this: is it good luck or bad luck? 01:29 PilzAdam unspecified 01:30 leo_rockway I'd rather not risk it. 01:30 kaeza 7 days of implementation-defined luck 01:37 leo_rockway PilzAdam: I tried your Pilztest with mapgenv7. It looks quite good. 01:38 leo_rockway oh, crap. I pinged him :S 01:38 PilzAdam :-) 01:38 PilzAdam what about the other elements beside the mapgen? 01:40 leo_rockway the tree leaves look different 01:40 leo_rockway I'm not sure what other changes it has. I'm trying it now. 01:40 leo_rockway what should I look for? 01:40 leo_rockway oh, the bars instead of hearts and bubbles 01:40 PilzAdam read the readme and play it in survival mode 01:40 leo_rockway I'm in survival, yes. I'll check the readme. 01:41 leo_rockway oh, I can't mine wood, I see. 01:42 leo_rockway stacks of 20 01:43 leo_rockway no sticks :S 01:43 leo_rockway I don't want to cheat and read the code. 01:45 leo_rockway I have broken stone, sand, leaves and wood 01:53 lordcirth PilzAdam, is pilztest a different binary, a game folder, what? 01:53 PilzAdam its a game for the minetest engine 01:53 PilzAdam basically a bunch of Lua mods 01:54 leo_rockway it's odd, but I think I like it 01:55 leo_rockway I still don't know how to mine stones. 01:58 PilzAdam bye 03:51 VanessaE evening all. 03:52 * NekoGloop bites VanessaE 03:53 VanessaE ow. 03:53 * VanessaE throws NekoGloop out into the snow 03:53 NekoGloop Yay, snow~ 03:53 sdzen night humans and incompetent bots 03:53 * NekoGloop rolls around in the snow and tosses it around 03:56 * sokomine grabs some of the snow and uses it for making everything less warm 03:59 Tesseract sokomine: http://minetestbb.suret.net/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=25 06:14 sfan5 hi all 06:14 sfan5 !op 06:14 sfan5 !deop 06:16 sfan5 I think we need a how to use a forum for dummies book: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105170#p105170 06:46 aldobr hi all 06:46 sfan5 hi 06:46 aldobr after some 5 hours installing linuxes 06:46 aldobr i decided to download ubuntu and becone one with the masses 06:47 aldobr *become 06:47 sfan5 aldobr: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/privacy-ubuntu-1210-amazon-ads-and-data-leaks 06:48 aldobr mageia doesnt have a minetest package 06:48 aldobr opensuse was unstable on my pc 06:48 aldobr debian wheezy doesnt have minetest nor freecad 06:48 aldobr now i am downloading ubuntu lts 06:50 sfan5 but you need to read that link 06:50 aldobr im reading while it downloads 06:51 aldobr well, i dont plan to use dash 06:51 aldobr i plan to use kde plasma 06:51 aldobr i would prefer a kde based distro 06:51 sfan5 oh then its ok 06:51 aldobr but i believe downloading it from packages will do 06:52 * sfan5 thinks about switching to Xununtu because Unity sucks 06:53 aldobr sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping 06:53 aldobr :P 08:44 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Youth Day! :-D 08:48 VanessaE what about us old farts? :) 08:54 JamesTait VanessaE, I think we get one, somewhere, but I can't remember any more. ;) 08:54 VanessaE heh 08:56 aldobr default ubuntu is ugly 08:56 VanessaE use xubuntu instead. 08:56 VanessaE unity sucks. 08:57 aldobr ubuntu's grub set my screen refresh rate wrong 08:57 aldobr i see black screen with a dancing Hz symbol up until x starts 08:58 aldobr and the config utility doesnt allow me to set a correct monitor config (it is stuck at 800x600) 08:58 aldobr ubuntu is too restrictive 09:00 iqualfragile aldobr: just edit the config 09:00 aldobr VanessaE: i cant install any more linux distro, thats the 5th linux distro i installed this night 09:00 VanessaE aldobr: you don't have to. 09:00 VanessaE aldobr: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop 09:00 aldobr ??? 09:00 aldobr hmmm 09:00 VanessaE then log out and log back in with "Xubuntu Session" in your display manager 09:01 aldobr xubuntu is gnome ? 09:01 VanessaE nope 09:01 VanessaE it's xfce 09:01 VanessaE installing "xubuntu-desktop" brings that in. 09:01 aldobr ahh xface 09:01 VanessaE there's other stuff you'll want, like xfce4-goodies and the like but you can get that stuff later. 09:01 aldobr what about lxde ? 09:02 VanessaE probably lubuntu-desktop :P 09:02 VanessaE never tried. 09:02 Yepoleb lxde is missing important features 09:02 aldobr how to open a console ? 09:02 aldobr cant find a icon 09:02 VanessaE Ithink you have to search for "terminal" 09:02 VanessaE I forget how unity's app search works 09:03 PenguinDad aldobr: Ctrl-Alt-F1 :P 09:03 Yepoleb xD 09:03 VanessaE (heh, I bound that to Win-F1 on my box) 09:04 VanessaE (a real terminal of course, not the console) 09:05 aldobr control alt f1 borked the whole thing 09:05 aldobr lol 09:05 VanessaE heh 09:05 VanessaE aldobr: that usually puts you on the first hardware console (F7 takes you back to X) 09:05 VanessaE these days, it's a fallback in case X is indeed b0rk3d. 09:06 aldobr i know how to use the consoles 09:06 aldobr but the thing is unstable 09:06 aldobr i want a xconsole 09:06 aldobr the dash went away 09:06 VanessaE (mine's configured for a 1280x1024 framebuffer with ~20px font) 09:06 aldobr windows are as if there is no window manager 09:06 aldobr crazy 09:06 VanessaE you want a terminal then, so use the app search for "terminal" :) 09:07 aldobr well 09:07 aldobr i believe i installed lubuntu 09:07 aldobr now control-alt-backspace to close that dash 09:08 aldobr oh 09:08 VanessaE nooooooo 09:08 aldobr its compiz 09:08 VanessaE just log out 09:08 VanessaE ctrl-alt-backspace kills X entirely. 09:08 aldobr nowhere to click "logout" 09:08 VanessaE you don't wanna do that 09:08 VanessaE look in your panel 09:08 aldobr theres no window manager 09:08 aldobr no panel 09:08 aldobr nothing 09:08 VanessaE upper right corner should be yo--- 09:08 aldobr just application windows 09:08 VanessaE you're not in unity? 09:08 VanessaE gnome, etc? 09:08 aldobr unity vanished after i returned from text mode console 09:09 VanessaE ctrl-alt-f7 09:09 VanessaE oh you did that already 09:09 VanessaE weird. 09:09 VanessaE well in that case, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart 09:09 VanessaE that's more graceful than killing X 09:17 VanessaE eh, bbl 09:17 VanessaE time to get some semblance of sleep. maybe. 09:18 PenguinDad bbl 09:30 aldobr back 09:39 aldobr hi all 09:40 aldobr finally lxde is working 09:40 Calinou ctrl-alt-backspace kills X entirely. 09:40 Calinou it's disabled on most distros these days 09:40 aldobr yeah unfortunatelly 09:40 aldobr had to press reset :P 09:41 PenguinDad It's disabled on Xubuntu 09:42 aldobr now lets see how to change grub default mode 09:46 thexyz alt+printscreen+reisub 09:49 Yepoleb sysrq+k 09:49 aldobr installing minetest 09:50 thexyz you forgot alt 09:50 aldobr works ! :D 09:51 aldobr now i need a server 09:52 sfan5 Calinou: http://is.gd/I9PPQM 09:52 Yepoleb localhost is a great server :P 09:52 aldobr what happens if i enter a git server with 0.4.7 ? 09:53 Calinou sfan5: seems legit 09:53 Calinou don't use URL shorteners 09:53 sfan5 Calinou: that url is too long 09:59 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:00 aldobr hi 10:00 PilzAdam sfan5, why have you changed the topic? 10:01 sfan5 PilzAdam: because your name is not LuckAdam or PilzLuck ;) 10:36 DanDuncombe I have 2 questions. 1) How do you get black dye? and 2) Can this be moved to mod releases? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6893 10:37 PilzAdam dependencies missing 10:37 PilzAdam and for the black dye: there is a legit way to get it 10:37 PilzAdam I leave it up to you to find it out :-) 10:37 DanDuncombe AH, derpendencies. Woops. 10:39 DanDuncombe Coal won't make black dye, there aren't black flowers, and no colour mix seems to make black. Arrrrgh. 10:39 PilzAdam are you sure about the color mixes? 10:40 DanDuncombe I can't work out the blac one. 10:41 DanDuncombe I have added depndencies to prefab mod, btw. 10:42 marksill_ Wiki needs to be updated with the new crafting recipes of 1.4.7 10:43 PilzAdam marksill_, we cant do that 10:44 DanDuncombe PilzAdam, can you please move Prefab mod now? 10:44 PilzAdam no 10:44 DanDuncombe Why? 10:44 PilzAdam I cant 10:45 DanDuncombe You aren't a moderator, right? 10:45 PilzAdam yeap 10:45 DanDuncombe VanessaE, or Jordach, could one of you move it? 10:46 PilzAdam VanessaE sleeps and Jordach isnt here 10:46 PilzAdam I would ask sfan5 10:46 sfan5 hm? 10:47 DanDuncombe sfan5, can you please move this to mod releases? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6893 10:48 DanDuncombe Does anyone have any more ideas for the prefab concrete mod? 10:48 sfan5 moved 10:49 DanDuncombe Thanks. 10:52 DanDuncombe The author Bill Bryson said that german food names often sound like nasty diseases. 10:53 DanDuncombe Nothing personal, of course. 10:53 DanDuncombe I was just saying. 11:03 DanDuncombe Bye guys 11:19 marksill_ I don't believe it's normal to start a new world and fall to you death because nothing generated, is it? 11:21 Calinou you don't fall 11:21 marksill_ No, my Y drops really quick and then I die 11:22 iqualfragile :) 11:23 marksill_ I think that it might be generating really slowly, because I can see caves in the distance 11:24 marksill_ I always die at 1472.5 11:24 marksill_ Y 11:25 marksill_ I managed to fling myself into lava that time 11:25 PilzAdam you cant walk or fall in not generated areas 11:25 marksill_ I'm so confiused 11:25 marksill_ Hmm 11:26 marksill_ What's the button for screenshots? 11:26 sfan5 F12 11:26 marksill_ Thanks 11:28 marksill_ Here's a screenie: http://imgur.com/bgfkJOS 11:28 marksill_ Even made an imgur account for this 11:31 marksill_ I can only recreate it in that world 11:31 marksill_ All my others (including ones I create) work fine 11:31 jcontra Hey, everyone-- again I want to share that I have a minetest shirt available via Kickstarter at www.libretees.com 11:32 marksill_ Would a world download help to pinpoint whatever bug/problem/mistake on my behalf this is? 11:33 iqualfragile marksill_: please provide the seed 11:33 marksill_ OK 11:33 marksill_ 5893849084941306156 11:34 Calinou for once we don't have to tell how to get seed :D 11:35 marksill_ :P 11:58 thexyz jcontra: don't like the design 11:58 jcontra :( 11:59 jcontra What could we do better? 11:59 jcontra Just the logo? 11:59 thexyz well, to be honest, all t-shirts look nice to me apart from Minetest one 11:59 thexyz though I don't like many things, like current main page design 12:01 jcontra I see-- well I appreciate the feedback 12:01 jcontra Please consider backing nonetheless-- it's for a good cause 12:01 sfan5 jcontra: IMO the green sword and blue pickaxe don't fit 12:02 Calinou >good cause 12:02 sfan5 also what is that block in the background of the minetest shirt? 12:02 jcontra a building block 12:15 PilzAdam bbl 12:20 DanDuncombe Do you think VanessaE is awake? 12:21 Evergreen Idk, let's see 12:21 Evergreen VanessaE: Dan DanDuncombe wants to know if you are awake 12:21 DanDuncombe What does that mean Calinou? 12:21 Calinou checks your IRC client 12:21 Calinou both of you, DanDuncombe and Evergreen use webchat :P 12:22 Calinou Evergreen: lol, 32 bit 12:22 DanDuncombe Yep 12:22 Evergreen Yop 12:22 DanDuncombe Yup 12:22 Evergreen I use webchat just because it is convenient. I can't help it being 32 bit either, it is a laptop, and I don't think there is any way of upgrading 12:23 DanDuncombe I have a 32bit laptop 12:23 Evergreen (unless my processor can handle 64 bit) 12:23 DanDuncombe I use 64bit Linux sometimes. 12:23 DanDuncombe I have no problems. 12:23 Evergreen No, no no, it's not about linux, it is the processor 12:24 DanDuncombe But I have a 32bit processor that runs a 64bit OS. 12:24 Evergreen I probably would have to buy another computer to have 64 bit 12:24 Evergreen Huh, that's odd 12:24 DanDuncombe It works fine. 12:24 Evergreen But I don't think that's the point of switching to 64 bit 12:25 Evergreen Part of it is you can have more than 4gb of ram if you have a 64 bit processor 12:25 DanDuncombe You can have more than 4gb ram with 32bit,it just won't use it. 12:25 iqualfragile DanDuncombe: impossible 12:26 iqualfragile you can not run any 64bit programm on a 32 bit processor 12:26 DanDuncombe You can install a higher gb ram card. 12:26 DanDuncombe And I have a 32bit netbook, and run 64bit Ubuntu with ease. 12:26 DanDuncombe It freezes really bad sometimes though. 12:26 iqualfragile and you can have and use more then 4 gb ram on a 32 bit os 12:27 iqualfragile windows is just too stupid 12:27 sfan5 "I have a 32bit processor that runs a 64bit OS." wat 12:27 iqualfragile DanDuncombe: no, it is impossible 12:27 sfan5 won't wor 12:27 sfan5 +k 12:27 iqualfragile you can not run a 64 bit os on a 32 bit processor 12:28 sfan5 the kernel will try to use %rax, %rbx, %rcx, %rdx, %rsp, %rdi and other 64bit registers that arent available on 32bit 12:29 DanDuncombe It does freeze and crash quite often though. 12:29 sfan5 DanDuncombe: post the output of "uname -m" 12:29 DanDuncombe I am on windows right now, so I can't. 12:29 sfan5 hm 12:29 sfan5 I'm 100% sure that will output "x86" since you can't use x86_64 on x86 processors 12:30 DanDuncombe Duall booting. 12:30 sfan5 Dual Booting only allows you to have 2 OSs at the same time 12:30 sfan5 it doesn't have anything to do with 32bit or 64bit 12:30 DanDuncombe I will switch over now and post the result. Will be a few moments. 12:34 DanDuncombe sfan5, "uname -m" gives me x86_64 12:35 sfan5 DanDuncombe: then you have a 64bit laptop 12:35 DanDuncombe But it is a 32bit netbook. 12:35 sfan5 no 12:35 DanDuncombe It says 32bit nu 12:35 sfan5 not possible 12:35 DanDuncombe *underneath 12:35 Calinou iqualfragile: it's not like any 32 bit processor today is good enough 12:36 sfan5 DanDuncombe: what is nu? 12:36 Calinou You can install a higher gb ram card. 12:36 Calinou no. 12:36 Calinou on top of that, VRAM doesn't do performance 12:36 DanDuncombe It was meant to be underneath: so "It says 32bit underneath" is what I meant. 12:36 Calinou It freezes really bad sometimes though. 12:36 DanDuncombe I have 2gb of ram. 12:36 Calinou it has nothing to do, the CPU does support 64 bit 12:36 Calinou it's just CPU and storage being insanely slow :) 12:37 DanDuncombe I have to go for a bit 12:37 Calinou RAM also doesn't mean performance 12:37 Calinou as long as it isn't full 12:37 Evergreen Yay, I got a 4gb extension, and a 1TB ecternal hard drive! 12:37 Evergreen *external 12:37 Calinou same for storage, better have good storage (SSD) than a lot 12:38 Evergreen I can't put SSD drives in my laptop 12:38 Evergreen IT has to be external 12:38 iqualfragile DanDuncombe: paste cat /proc/cpuinfo somewhere 12:42 Evergreen I would have put an SSD drive in if I ccould 12:43 Calinou s/SSD drive/SSD/ 12:43 Calinou solid state drive drive? 12:44 Evergreen Whoops, sorry 12:44 Evergreen :P 12:44 Evergreen *an SSD in 12:48 DanDuncombe iqualfragile: Here are the results of cat /proc/cpuinfo http://pastebin.com/ABBFt5yY 12:51 DanDuncombe What is the sudo command to update an installed Minetest to the latest Ubuntu git? 12:54 Calinou packaged, or self-compiled? 12:55 Calinou packaged: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade 12:55 Calinou DanDuncombe: this CPU supports 64 bit 12:55 Calinou I have it too on a netbook 12:55 DanDuncombe What do I put after sudo apt-get update? 12:56 DanDuncombe I was packaged I think. 12:56 DanDuncombe *It 12:56 Calinou told you :P 12:56 Calinou sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade 12:57 DanDuncombe Oh, sorry. 12:58 DanDuncombe Should I add breeze-blocks to prefab concrete mod? 12:59 DanDuncombe The hollow kind. 13:01 DanDuncombe Also, I can't do texturing and whatever in Linux, because no file type is recognised by any program. Why? I can't even upload to imgur because pictures aren't recognised. 13:01 DanDuncombe A sneak peek at a possible breezeblock design for prefab. https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQfBcRUElTRQJEc4d2jpL9imJ6fTsj_ga_WAiSFIvrOM0rXDB4HAA 13:04 Calinou Also, I can't do texturing and whatever in Linux, because no file type is recognised by any program. Why? I can't even upload to imgur because pictures aren't recognised. 13:04 Calinou uh? imgur lets you upload any kind of image, just select it 13:04 DanDuncombe They aren't shown in the box 13:05 DanDuncombe I can only view them with the program LibreOffice Draw 13:06 sfan5 ^ wat 13:06 sfan5 which box? 13:06 Calinou gimp filename.extension 13:06 Calinou in a terminal ^ :P 13:07 thexyz in a terminal emulator :P 13:07 DanDuncombe The one that opens when you click upload images from computer 13:08 DanDuncombe Also, with the ready-built GIMP from the software centre, when opened, how do you open a file? 13:09 DanDuncombe Don't worry, found it out. 13:10 Calinou thexyz: "terminal emulator" doesn't mean much these days 13:10 Calinou it's used by people who believe it's still useful to use Ctrl+Alt+F1 13:13 DanDuncombe Github is being incredibly slow today. 13:13 thexyz Calinou: it is, when your system is fucked 13:14 PenguinDad DanDuncombe: not for me :P 13:14 thexyz or X decided not to work today 13:15 Calinou yes, but when it works you don't need it 13:15 DanDuncombe How do I use Github on Linux? Like,how to upload an update to Github? 13:15 Calinou git 13:16 DanDuncombe Is it on the software centre? 13:16 Calinou sudo apt-get install git 13:16 * Calinou never uses the software centre 13:17 DanDuncombe Thanks Calinou. 13:20 DanDuncombe When I do install git, how do I clone stuff and upload? Is it command line or gui? 13:20 Calinou command line 13:20 Calinou learn how to use it; it's good 13:20 Calinou git clone 13:20 Calinou git add 13:20 Calinou git commit . -m 13:21 Calinou git push 13:21 Calinou git pull 13:28 DanDuncombe Can Linux run Windows Batch Files? 13:28 Semilevel Only with Wine. 13:29 Semilevel Or virtualisation etc 13:30 DanDuncombe Who thinks cats are better than dogs? 13:30 Semilevel me 13:30 DanDuncombe Also, who thinks a prefabricated concrete Sam statue would be a good addition to prefab mod? 13:35 thexyz it's good 13:35 jcontra me 13:35 thexyz it's also very inconsistent but you'll get used to it! 13:35 DanDuncombe thexyz what is inconsistent? 13:37 thexyz git is 13:44 DanDuncombe Calinou, was it you who told me the sudo update upgrade command? 13:46 Calinou yes 13:47 DanDuncombe No offense, but I think you screwed up my computer. 13:49 DanDuncombe When I ran the update command on Linux, it spent about half an hour updating. Now in Linux the mouse won't move at all and in Windows all my bookmarks have been deleted. 13:49 thexyz and my hamster died too 13:49 thexyz fuck you, Calinou 13:50 DanDuncombe Does this sound like a dodgy name? Newest registered user: wetplayer123 13:50 thexyz how come you don't know update-upgrade kills hamsters 13:50 DanDuncombe Why did Calinou break Linux? Just WHY?! 13:50 Calinou because you followed my advice too quickly 13:51 DanDuncombe I will have to completely re-install Kubuntu now... 13:51 Calinou also, your bookmarks being gone on windows == not caused by linux 13:51 Calinou yes, do that 13:51 DanDuncombe It was caused by Linux. I know it. 13:51 Calinou nope. it can't 13:51 DanDuncombe They were there before, I switched over to linux, updated, and now they are gone. 13:51 Calinou also, do you use a touchpad or an actual mouse? 13:51 Calinou if it's a touchpad, don't ask why 13:51 Calinou I'm sure it disabled itself hardware-wise 13:52 Calinou in this case there can be button to enable it 13:52 DanDuncombe I tried both mouse and touchpad. 13:52 Calinou well, that's ubuntu and kubuntu 13:52 Calinou also: shit happens 13:52 DanDuncombe They enable touchpad button only has any effect on Windows. I tried it. 13:52 DanDuncombe *the 13:53 Calinou also: you're not going to get help if you don't ask on IRC or on support forums 13:53 Calinou so go to #ubuntu and complain about it now 13:53 DanDuncombe What was the command again? 13:53 DanDuncombe So I can tell them 13:54 Calinou sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade 13:54 Calinou and be patient, people may not know the answer 13:55 Calinou note that they'll yell at you because you use PPAs 13:56 DanDuncombe Oh well. 13:57 DanDuncombe Who thinks this isn't bad for my first ever render? http://s23.postimg.org/9fyw7r5vf/Rendered_Imagepng.png 13:57 DanDuncombe It is a mounted minigun. 13:59 DanDuncombe Calinou, in Windows my battery time remaining icon is also gone. 14:07 Calinou look at the power management settings 14:07 Calinou also, dual boot user problems 14:21 DanDuncombe Is there a function with Modster that automatically updates, or at least notifies you of updates? 14:22 DanDuncombe Auto updates mods I mean 14:23 Calinou auto-update is evil 14:23 Calinou DanDuncombe: if apt used auto-update, you wouldn't like it :P 14:23 DanDuncombe Oh well. 14:23 DanDuncombe Do you have any ideas for prefab mod? 14:24 DanDuncombe Also, although Linux is now broken, it fixed a bug I was having with Windows, so thanks for that Calinou. 14:24 DanDuncombe Should Modster be made oifficial, and come with minetest, do you think? along with JBR's texture pack program? 14:25 DanDuncombe *official 14:27 Evergree|afk No, because linux 14:27 Evergree|afk I don't think that would be a good idea, unless they both supported linux (without wine) 14:27 NekoGloop sup 14:28 Evergreen Sup 14:28 NekoGloop the ceiling 14:29 DanDuncombe Can someone please pastebin an ABM to make one node be replaced by another when the neighbour is a default:lava_source? 14:31 sfan5 DanDuncombe: do it yourself 14:31 sfan5 we are not your magic wishing well 14:32 DanDuncombe I can't get the abm to work though. It runs regardless of neighbours. 14:32 sfan5 paste the code 14:32 DanDuncombe Ok. Will be a mo. 14:35 DanDuncombe sfan5; http://pastebin.com/vv6HvgnX 14:35 hoodedice Yo 14:36 sfan5 DanDuncombe: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1890 14:36 hoodedice Dan, your code? 14:36 sfan5 1. you write neighbors wrong 14:36 hoodedice I turns stone into lava? 14:36 sfan5 2. it need to be an array not a string 14:36 DanDuncombe Thanks sfan5 14:37 DanDuncombe hoodedice: It turns stone into lava,if it is next to lava 14:37 sfan5 hoodedice: no, it (is supposed to) turn stone nearby lava source blocks into flowing lava 14:37 hoodedice Ah 14:37 hoodedice Pragrammer XP +20 14:37 hoodedice *Programmer 14:41 Peacock lol : 14:41 Peacock Tony Abbott told a gathering of conservative party faithful on Monday that no one is “the suppository of all wisdom.” 14:42 hoodedice ? 14:42 Peacock Australian politics :p 14:42 Peacock somehow dont think this guy will get elected lol 14:43 Peacock Abbott, a Rhodes scholar, apparently meant to say “repository” — a storage place 14:43 hoodedice Hmm, is this Rudd guy his rival? 14:44 hoodedice Kevin Rudd? 14:44 Peacock Rudd yeah, twice PM, between the Rudd was Juliana something 14:44 Peacock Julia Gillard i think 14:44 hoodedice Rudd's backing homophiles. 14:44 hoodedice *homosexuality 14:45 Peacock most liberal parties do 14:45 Peacock i think Canada is the only country where all parties do though 14:45 hoodedice Ya, and that's gonna get him over 70% of votes I bet 14:46 Peacock well what business is it of the gov't what consenting adults do? especially when they can't even get the economy right 14:46 DanDuncombe To add a liquid to minetest, do I just correctly define the source node and flowing node, and that's it? 14:46 Peacock in fact, its only when gov'ts screw up on the economy and jobs that they start focusing more on social issues 14:47 hoodedice +1 14:48 hoodedice Thing is, I don't think the homovement should've been THAT popularised at all 14:48 DanDuncombe Notepad++ Is now officially screwed up. 14:48 hoodedice Use Decoda 14:48 DanDuncombe When I open it it opens at the far top left of the screen, in fact off the screen. 14:49 Peacock some people said the same thing about black rights half a century ago 14:49 hoodedice Well, that had to be 14:50 sfan5 Jordach! 14:50 Peacock or women's rights for that matter 14:50 hoodedice It wasn't about something you do in bed. Or stuff you hide from children 14:50 Jordach sfan5! 14:50 hoodedice You can discuss black rights, and women equality 14:50 Peacock there are still plenty of white people who wouldn't take their kids through a black neighbourhood lol 14:50 DanDuncombe But they are stupid, unless the Black people would try to attack them, as still happens sometimes. 14:50 hoodedice But imagine this 5 year old going like 'Daddy, what is ho-mo-sex-ua-li-ty?' 14:51 hoodedice If Blacks attack, that doesn't mean that whiles don't 14:51 hoodedice *Whites 14:51 hoodedice *can't 14:51 Peacock well he either explains or he doesn't, by the time the kids' 16-18, theyre gonna know what it is 14:51 hoodedice Ya, and they can wait till then 14:52 hoodedice One's gotta be careful about what he's telling his kids 14:52 Peacock well thats up to each parent, not the gov't 14:52 hoodedice Point proved. There's no need for such an escalation 14:53 Peacock parents (are supposed) to transmit their values to their kids, the fact that most leave it up to TV now speaks more about their parenting skills than societal standards 14:53 hoodedice Indeed 14:53 DanDuncombe I found my first ever nyan cat today. 14:54 Peacock in any case, social issues aside, i vote more on the economy, and conservatives in many countries have a worse track record with deficits 14:54 Peacock they wanna cut taxes and spend more on defense, make abortion illegal while degrading the social safety net, etc. 14:55 Peacock few of their policies make any sense 14:55 hoodedice abortion illegal? lol 14:55 hoodedice I don't vote at all. Nor will ever 14:56 hoodedice (I'm underage anyway) 14:57 Peacock grandparents' generation understood the value of investing today for a better tomorrow, their kids (the boomers) chose instead to mortgage the future of their kids and grandchildren 14:58 Peacock and now they talk about legalizing assisted suicide as a compassionate thing, when its really about fixing the broken pension system 14:58 jcontra hoodedice: I live in DC and it's an even bigger joke when you live here 14:58 hoodedice Washington DC? 14:59 jcontra yep 14:59 hoodedice legalizing assisted suicide? That should count upto murder lol 14:59 hoodedice Seriously, you are so right, Peacock 15:00 Peacock the T4 program in the 30's was billed as a compassionate thing too, and we all know how that turned out 15:00 hoodedice Stupid politicians just want to change the topic 15:00 jcontra yep 15:00 jcontra they distract while they profit 15:00 hoodedice Indeed. 15:00 Peacock theyre bleeding the country dry lol 15:01 Jordach bullet + gun + politician = dead politician 15:01 jcontra you know that t-shirt plug I did last night? 15:01 Peacock theres a town in northern quebec, they wanted this guy's mansion for an old folks home, so they raised his evaluation 30% 15:01 jcontra well, one congressman here in DC 15:01 Peacock the guy decided instead, to demolish his home 15:01 jcontra opened up some offices in the capitol building for startups 15:01 jcontra I got invited 15:01 hoodedice evaluation? 15:02 DanDuncombe Help? Flowing liquid I added is white? http://i.imgur.com/vAI56sr.png 15:02 Peacock the city's appraisal for tax purposes 15:02 jcontra but it's blatantly clear that the purpose of opening up that space for us to work is simply to snag/invest in a startup before anyone else can 15:02 Peacock they figured by jumping his tax bill 30%, he'd sell for the meager amount the city wanted to pay 15:02 jcontra it's self-serving 15:02 hoodedice Dan. check PNG transparency thingy 15:02 Peacock so in came the wrecking ball, rightfully so imo 15:02 hoodedice He didn't. I salute him. 15:02 Peacock now the property is worth 5K, just the land lol 15:03 DanDuncombe PNG transparency- the image is 100% non-transparent 15:03 * Jordach just noticed a unusual pitch bend in VLC 15:03 Peacock VLC is starting to suck balls 15:03 Jordach it's just about 4 cents under +- 0 cents 15:03 Peacock but the alternatives on linux are worse (missing remote, or missing equalizer, or just worst quality video/audio) 15:03 hoodedice So you make it semi transparent or something 15:04 Jordach Peacock, one of the video players that come with xubuntu works great 15:04 * Jordach cant remember the name :P 15:04 hoodedice Parole? 15:04 Peacock does it have a remote and equalizer and video cropping? i use all those and more lol 15:04 Jordach hoodedice, think so 15:04 hoodedice Gwah. Why am I not on Xubuntu? 15:05 hoodedice It IS Parole 15:05 Peacock i think VLC could have waited a year before releasing 2.0 series 15:05 Jordach hoodedice, i havent ever had a issue with xubuntu when i used it 15:06 hoodedice So have I 15:06 hoodedice It's just that I am forced to use windows 15:06 Peacock device driver issues? 15:06 thexyz Peacock: mpv 15:06 Calinou parole, yes 15:06 Calinou it does what it needs to do :P 15:06 Peacock mpv? 15:06 hoodedice The only problem was in 12.04 LTS with simple scan 15:07 thexyz Peacock: is ze best player 15:07 Peacock !g mpv 15:07 MinetestBot Peacock: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPV 15:07 hoodedice Nothing critical, just this VoIP called magicjack 15:07 thexyz Peacock: http://mpv.io/ 15:07 hoodedice This? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-Purpose_Vehicle 15:07 Peacock yeah i figured you werent talking about multi-purpose-vehicle lol 15:08 Peacock oh shit, they added features to mplayer1/2 15:08 thexyz also, vlc sucks 15:08 hoodedice Doesn't run on Linux, this MJack thingy 15:08 thexyz I had to tell it 15:08 Peacock i know lol 15:08 Peacock playing MKV's on vlc is melting my heatsink lol 15:08 Jordach really? 15:09 Jordach my pc doesnt often go above 64*C 15:09 Peacock id avoid MKV if i could, but some series you just can't find subtitles, but there are MKV's 15:09 hoodedice I have two cooling fans 15:09 thexyz related HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6194563 15:09 thexyz also, mkv is ze best container 15:09 Peacock im thinking of simply taking the case side off the p4 lol 15:09 Peacock but the dust :/ 15:10 hoodedice (Irony. The only heat source is the C2D) 15:10 Jordach Peacock, i'm planning on JIGSAWING a hole in the side 15:10 Peacock mkv might be the best container, but not many players seem to handle them well :/ 15:10 thexyz Peacock: are you sure you're talking about container, not codec? 15:10 Peacock i do like it when the subtitles are "built in" to the video 15:10 Jordach Peacock, use a white marker to draw a shape so you can cut it out with a jigsaw :) 15:10 Peacock well whatever .mkv is lol 15:10 * Jordach hates ones which are with the video, but as separate files 15:11 Peacock i know VLC uses its own codecs 15:11 thexyz .mkv is a container, it can contain stuff 15:11 thexyz this stuff is encoded using different codecs 15:11 Peacock the mplayer type players use the codecs you install through synaptic (or whatever package manager one has) 15:11 thexyz most of time if stuff cannot be played this is because of codecs, not container 15:11 Peacock so its the VLC codecs that sucks 15:11 thexyz mplayer uses builtin ffmpeg AFAIK IIRC 15:12 hoodedice I don't care about video players. I watch only YouTube videos 15:12 hoodedice =P 15:12 Peacock i care about video players :P the p4 is essentially my tv 15:12 hoodedice P4? 15:13 Peacock and its important to hear the show/movie and not the fan 15:13 hoodedice My P4 barely supported Tangled @ 720p 15:13 Peacock core might be p4, but gfx card is 1yr old nvidia :p 15:13 thexyz wow 15:13 thexyz you'll have fun time 15:13 hoodedice nViadia fan noise? 15:13 Peacock heatsink fan noise 15:13 Calinou le typo 15:13 Peacock the only fan i havent changed lol 15:14 thexyz when h265 gets popular 15:14 Calinou tip: stock heatsinks suck 15:14 Peacock stock everything sucks lol 15:14 Peacock i didn't change any of the parts for fun, they died lol 15:14 Peacock except the spare 1tb drive, but then the original 160gb drive died six months ago 15:14 hoodedice heatsink fan noise is louder than GPU's LOL! 15:15 Jordach i use a p4 and it's SILENT. 15:15 Peacock eventually when the p4 dies ill just cannibalize the good parts 15:15 Peacock yeah but what OS are you running jordach? 15:15 hoodedice I am gonna cannibalize next week 15:15 Jordach Peacock, windows 7 15:15 hoodedice 80 GB HDD, 1 GB DDR2 RAM and the fan 15:15 Peacock i thought you said windows 2000 or ME last week 15:15 hoodedice mboard and CPU can go to hell 15:15 Jordach Peacock, it's also gained the nickname Admantine, i havent managed to break it 15:16 Peacock i know because i made a comment about stealing library computers lol 15:16 Jordach it survived everything i threw at it 15:16 Calinou silent = can't be heard 15:16 Calinou quiet = hard to hear 15:17 Peacock the only two shows that causes the fan to be on all the time are ST DS9 and VOY (both in mkv containers) 15:17 Peacock but the alternative torrents were of such shitty quality lol 15:17 hoodedice TORRENTER !!!! 15:17 Peacock probably encoded in the late 90s 15:18 Peacock hoodedice why not? after purchasing a shit-ton of dvd's, and a dozen shitty dvd players, only to have bluray come out 15:18 * Jordach agrees 15:18 Peacock 2/3's of the dvd's themselves stopped playing after a few years 15:18 Peacock so ive already paid for my content one way or another 15:18 hoodedice Oh, that's okay then 15:18 Jordach fun fact: i don't torrent, but i my uncles media server uses apache to stream the torrented media :D 15:19 Peacock the real pisser: you buy a movie, then they release a directors' cut, and an extended cut, etc. etc. 15:19 hoodedice How do you torrent anyway? Aren't laws in Canada strict? 15:19 Peacock they do traffic shaping yes 15:19 Peacock but even the politicians' kids do it 15:19 Peacock if not the politicians themselves 15:20 hoodedice =) 15:20 Peacock it never takes long for a copyright troll to get hacked and have the contents of their drives revealed to the public lol 15:21 Peacock in any case, hollywood wont have to worry about piracy much longer if they keep producing the kind of stuff theyve been putting out the last few years (or decade) 15:22 Jordach absolute shit? 15:22 hoodedice haha 15:22 Peacock i swear to god i get the impression theyre working for the same 3-4 scripts 15:22 Peacock *from the same 15:22 hoodedice But The Dark Knight Rises was damn good 15:22 hoodedice I didn't see the latest one 15:22 Peacock JJ abrams has star trek and star wars in his pocket, garanteeing both will suck and have too many lens flares 15:22 Calinou hoodedice: torrenting can be legal 15:23 Peacock id rather watch german movies with subs lol 15:23 Jordach btw, dont knock marvel's films as of late 15:23 DanDuncombe Apparently someone is logged on VanessaE's server with my name, even though my name is passworded 15:23 Jordach Iron Man 3 was awesome 15:23 Peacock french movies don't need subs lol 15:23 Jordach lol 15:23 hoodedice Calinou : I implied illegal torrenting 15:24 hoodedice Wondered how I got Xubuntu and FlightGear? 15:24 DanDuncombe Also, I tried using the program Decoda and it is so hard to use. 15:24 hoodedice Hard? 15:24 Jordach TWSS 15:24 hoodedice Maybe I liked it because I never used notepad++ 15:25 hoodedice (Scrite and Decoda) 15:25 DanDuncombe The window with code in is around 1 inch high and 2 across.Notepad++ is totally awesome. 15:25 DanDuncombe Decoda has the tiny window, I mean. 15:25 * Jordach uses N++ 15:25 hoodedice Not scrite... 15:25 hoodedice I forgot =/ 15:25 * DanDuncombe approves of Jordahc. 15:25 DanDuncombe *Jordach 15:26 Peacock Jordache, a new breakfast spread :p 15:26 Peacock they have this caramel here called Grenache lol 15:27 hoodedice Alcoholic? 15:27 DanDuncombe Instrucions: 1) Get a Jordach 2) Rename it Jordahc 3) Put in a Blender 4) Spread on toast 15:27 Peacock lol 15:27 Peacock now we need a Jordache breakfast mod :p 15:28 Peacock toaster, toast, spread 15:28 * Jordach slaps both DanDuncombe and Peacock at the same time 15:28 Peacock plates and bowls with a little rooster on it? 15:28 Jordach no and no. 15:28 Peacock lol :p 15:29 hoodedice AH ! 15:29 hoodedice SCiTE 15:29 hoodedice *SciTE 15:29 hoodedice brb 15:30 Peacock i cant wait for the city to turn the water back on, i need to use the throne :( 15:30 Peacock damn idiots hit a gas main again (second time in two weeks) 15:30 hoodedice Peacock 15:30 hoodedice What's this thing in my city? 15:30 hoodedice *nation 15:30 hoodedice *dome 15:31 Peacock freefull started building something i think 15:31 hoodedice He's in my dome? 15:31 Peacock i can add another dome 15:31 hoodedice How is it that I wasn't notified >.< 15:31 Peacock you werent on and i didn't notice 15:31 Peacock the wife did last night 15:31 hoodedice No worries though 15:31 hoodedice Just notify me next time 15:31 Peacock i can grow the country and the dome, or add another dome while growing the country 15:32 hoodedice Nothing for now, 15:32 Peacock the wife wants to build a bioshock-type underwater city with tunnels 15:32 * Jordach droolsm 15:32 Jordach -m 15:32 hoodedice So, only the entrance will be in this dome? 15:33 Peacock well im not sure what FreeFull is trying to build yet :/ 15:33 Peacock it looks to me like a giant pipe of some sort 15:33 Peacock it leads out and down under the grass 15:33 hoodedice Mine will be actually this type 15:34 Peacock added nightclub and coloredglass btw 15:34 Peacock nightclub without the lights (migraines) lol 15:35 hoodedice https://www.google.com/search?q=Corellia&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=ogAJUp7IC82TrgepqIHgBQ&biw=1280&bih=905&sei=pgAJUqSBOYKFrAeDn4C4BA 15:35 Peacock besides i have *enough* lights lol 15:35 hoodedice I saw that additions 15:35 hoodedice *those 15:35 Peacock underwater? 15:35 Peacock could be cool 15:36 hoodedice Sorry, https://www.google.com/search?q=Corellia&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=ogAJUp7IC82TrgepqIHgBQ&biw=1280&bih=905&sei=pgAJUqSBOYKFrAeDn4C4BA#bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&channel=rcs&fp=7e2af5177544434&hl=en&q=Corellia+rogue+squadron&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB%3Aofficial&sa=1&safe=active&tbm=isch&um=1 15:36 Peacock i wanna build this and blueprint it: http://www.evolo.us/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/water-skyscraper-2.jpg 15:36 Tesseract hoodedice: is.gd 15:36 Peacock is it just me or are google search urls getting longer? lol 15:36 hoodedice Sorry 15:37 hoodedice Just google 'Corelia Rogue Squadron' is shorter =P 15:37 Peacock wish their search had what youtube has: a quick share link 15:37 hoodedice is.gd? 15:37 hoodedice Is good? 15:37 Peacock is god? 15:38 Tesseract Also v.gd 15:38 DanDuncombe Is dog 15:38 DanDuncombe Very god 15:38 hoodedice !is.gd 15:38 Peacock !g is.gd 15:38 MinetestBot Peacock: http://is.gd/ 15:39 Peacock thats helpful 15:39 Peacock lol 15:39 FreeFull hoodedice: I can get rid of it 15:39 FreeFull Peacock: It was meant to be a pipe thing 15:39 hoodedice No worries 15:39 hoodedice brb 15:39 Peacock thats what i figured 15:39 FreeFull Yeah, I'll get rid of it if it doesn't fit in 15:39 Peacock well thats between you and hoodedice 15:39 PenguinDad !g bit.ly 15:39 MinetestBot PenguinDad: https://bitly.com/ 15:40 Peacock like i said, if the country isn't big enough, i can double/triple it 15:40 Peacock adding more domes is also easy 15:41 Peacock jesus christ, seen the sinkhole in florida? 15:41 FreeFull Weird 15:42 FreeFull Chunks aren't loading 15:42 Peacock what about now? 15:42 Peacock (might have been due to loading images of sinkhole :/) 15:43 FreeFull Nope, let me try reconnecting 15:43 Jordach sinkhole? 15:43 hoodedice http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23668885 15:44 FreeFull Works now 15:44 Peacock in florida, nearly swallowed a condo building whole 15:44 hoodedice !title 15:44 MinetestBot hoodedice: BBC News - Sinkhole opens under Florida resort villa 15:44 Peacock *resort villa 15:44 hoodedice Looks bad 15:44 Peacock so many sinkholes in the news lately 15:44 Peacock unless they just went unreported before, one wonders if frackings' to blame 15:45 hoodedice (,,, body was never recovered....) 15:45 hoodedice *... 15:45 Peacock well those sinkholes go deep 15:48 DanDuncombe Aren't they sometimes 100m deep or more? 15:48 hoodedice I remember this mine town. 15:48 hoodedice Coal mines 15:48 hoodedice Someone lit a ciggerettte or something 15:48 hoodedice BOOM. Now ghost town 15:49 Peacock Centralia, PA? 15:49 DanDuncombe Remeber the thing about the oil train which crashed wiping out a whole village in a fireball. 15:50 Peacock Lac Megantic, near here 15:50 Peacock the company went under 15:50 hoodedice Ya, that one 15:51 Peacock there was another crash in Spain the same week too 15:51 DanDuncombe https://www.dropbox.com/sh/y70vpkypkxkhvw8/NRGAywBhmd What do you think of it? 15:51 DanDuncombe !title 15:51 MinetestBot DanDuncombe: Dropbox - Submarine Screenshots 15:52 DanDuncombe They are screenshots of a submarine I made. Please say what you think. 15:54 DanDuncombe Any suggestions for the prefab mod? 15:55 DanDuncombe "why if you cant added images !p" says yohanes828. What does he mean by !p? 15:56 PenguinDad :p == !p? 15:56 DanDuncombe Probably, yes. 15:56 DanDuncombe What do you guys think of the submarine? 15:58 DanDuncombe Is Jordach there? 15:58 Jordach mhm 15:58 hoodedice Is that a working submarine? 16:00 DanDuncombe Can I commision you to make a .x model and textures of one of these? Please? http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQew0rZHxB8ztQQmNkDdAErflG6Zhmdteb-1Jc_SDcLaeBb6H4H 16:00 DanDuncombe A concrete barge, made of concrete, is the intention. 16:01 DanDuncombe hoodedice: It does not leak when Worldedited underwater. 16:01 rubenwardy Hi all 16:01 hoodedice Close enough 16:02 DanDuncombe Also, I only learned yesterday that people have made working barges out of concrete. Then I saw this: http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR0f-u9Phmcsx1EPjcAl15JDmqB-WEF7i9c-gxUG6OY-5ktbtlH 16:02 DanDuncombe PilzAdam, may I use code from your boats mod? 16:02 MinetestBot PilzAdam is back! 16:03 PenguinDad Welcome back PilzAdam! 16:03 PilzAdam thx 16:03 Peacock Welcome back PulseAudio! 16:03 DanDuncombe Jordach, is the commision possible? 16:03 DanDuncombe *commission 16:07 hoodedice Hey eacock 16:07 hoodedice *Peacock 16:07 Peacock howdy 16:07 hoodedice So my bro wants to connect to the server 16:07 hoodedice Same IP, same PC, different IDs 16:07 Peacock could be tricky 16:08 Peacock if you trust him not get himself banned 16:08 DanDuncombe Jordach: Never mind, I'll try to do it. 16:08 hoodedice (I expected that) 16:08 Peacock since ban for him is ban for you 16:08 hoodedice Do you trust 9 year olds? 16:08 hoodedice (I don't) 16:08 Peacock cuz ive had alot of griefers claim it was their kid/brother/sister doing the griefing, its not a new excuse around here lol 16:08 hoodedice lol 16:09 Exio4 Peacock: it was you griefing! 16:09 hoodedice Think I'll keep him offline for now 16:09 Peacock send him to another server :P 16:09 Peacock if he gets banned there then youll know not to let him on lol 16:09 hoodedice ... 16:09 DanDuncombe Send him to a harsh difficult server. 16:09 hoodedice No other server as good as this one =) 16:10 Peacock server-war in 3,2,1... 16:10 Peacock :P 16:10 hoodedice I think LandRush is the hardest 16:10 Peacock well landrush uses protector blocks and doesn't have autoban 16:10 Peacock i use x,z protection w/ autoban 16:10 hoodedice Crafting goes over my head 16:10 Peacock ah shit 16:10 hoodedice I never used non-creative in my life 16:10 Peacock i wanted to add a workbench along with the other two mods this morning 16:11 hoodedice Ok, later 16:11 hoodedice g2g 16:11 Peacock me neither but i keep getting requests for crafting even though the grid wouldn't fit in the inventory lol 16:11 hoodedice Sorry to cut the discussion 16:11 Tesseract Peacock: Autoban = bad. I use lag to get out of protected traps often, and that would trigger a ban. 16:12 Peacock autoban = very good 16:12 Peacock otherwise i couldn't leave the server on without keeping an eye on it constantly 16:12 DanDuncombe Does Blender 2.68 have a working .x exporter? 16:12 Tesseract I won't play on any server with it because of that. 16:12 PenguinDad Today is the birthday of Erwin Schrödinger! 16:12 Peacock and i couldn't build so long as anyone else is connected 16:12 Peacock rules are pretty simple and warnings plentiful 16:12 Tesseract I run a server fine without autoban. 16:13 Tesseract interact is not in the default privs though. 16:13 Peacock jail isn't a challenge, its the last stop before a ban 16:13 Peacock ive unjailed people who realized they shouldn't be digging in a given area 16:13 Peacock griefers try to grief their way out, i let them get banned 16:14 Peacock if they dont have the time to read the rules at spawn, i dont have the time to explain them 16:14 Tesseract Greif out? They can't as the area is protected. 16:14 Peacock exactly 16:14 Peacock so either they calm down, or they get kicked out 16:15 Peacock in fact, i think ill put another copy of the rules in the prison 16:15 DanDuncombe I wish User Preferences in Blender worked. 16:16 Tesseract Oh, and protection is form -32000 to 32000? 16:16 DanDuncombe Jordach, are you there? 16:16 Tesseract (y) 16:16 Peacock i only count x,z yeah 16:16 Peacock so a protected area owns all elevations 16:16 Peacock otherwise people would be building shit ontop/underneath other people's stuff and it would be fugly 16:16 Tesseract You should remove that, the deep and high protection areas make mining and platforms very dificult. 16:17 Tesseract (See redcrab's server) 16:17 Peacock well you either mine in freebuild, or in your own country, you shouldn't be stealing resources from another 16:18 Peacock whats the point in having protection if when you build your surface mine installation, you get down there and find out its all gone? 16:19 Tesseract Why can't I mine under other's protected areas if I am deep and they are not using it? If it is a mine, or a skyscraper you make the protection area a little higher of deeper. 16:19 Peacock so you buy a house, you dont mind if your neighbour extends his basement underneath your house because your's doesn't have one? 16:20 Calinou lol 16:20 Calinou Tesseract: because... THEY MIGHT USE IT AT SOME MOMENT:!!!!!!!!! 16:20 Calinou 16:20 Calinou Peacock: I wouldn't 16:20 Tesseract Not really, although I was thinking of digging at -100 or so. 16:20 Peacock they might, and they might add floors to their houses/towers/whatevers 16:21 Tesseract The protection wouldn't be to directly below the house, it would be a hundred nodes down or so. 16:21 Tesseract s/by/go/ 16:21 Tesseract be* 16:22 Peacock it also reduces how much checking needs to be done, by a 1/3, * every place and dig node performed 16:22 Peacock and it prevents having a gazillion protection zones 16:23 Peacock i wont even grant one for single players, there needs to be at least two per zone 16:23 Tesseract By half a nanosecond? 16:23 Peacock it adds up 16:23 Peacock my tools dont take a few seconds to dig 16:23 Tesseract And how will that lower the number of protection zones. 16:23 Peacock they dig instantly 16:23 Tesseract +? 16:24 Peacock by not having zones stacked one ontop the other 16:24 Tesseract Are you really woried about a speed improvement of that little? 16:24 Peacock notice i dont run a hundred mods 16:25 * Jordach is considering re-doing the Sam II model 16:25 Tesseract Most zones will be near ground level. Users that can't get an erea will either move out farther or quit with your model. 16:25 DanDuncombe Jordach: Could you please make a small barge as a .x with no animations, designed to be a bit like a Mc boat? 16:26 Peacock that is their choice 16:26 Peacock id rather they quit then have to administer a complicated network of zones 16:27 Peacock i dont care about quantity of players, only the quality of the things they build 16:28 FreeFull Peacock: Dammit, I forgot you turned drowning off when I warped to prison 16:28 FreeFull Funny how there is mese around though 16:28 Peacock i didn't turn it off, unless they added a conf option between git versions 16:28 FreeFull Weird 16:28 FreeFull I don't drown anymore 16:29 Peacock before people drowned in light, now they dont drown in water :P 16:29 FreeFull At all 16:29 Peacock no one is :/ 16:29 FreeFull hoodedice said he drowns 16:29 Tesseract There is a Lua callback for drowning. 16:29 FreeFull Wifi castration? 16:29 Peacock lemme check the water def from the latest minetest_game, im still running an ancient deriv of an old minetest_game 16:30 Peacock i may have had a few beers when i wrote that lol 16:30 FreeFull Heheh, got mese now though 16:30 Peacock sampling it i assume? :p 16:30 FreeFull Yep =P 16:31 FreeFull Fuu 16:31 FreeFull Just overwrote it with something else =P 16:31 Peacock lol 16:31 Peacock you could mine it too though 16:32 FreeFull But that's effort =P 16:32 Peacock lol 16:32 FreeFull And it's not as if you added workbenches yet 16:32 FreeFull So I can't make anything 16:32 Peacock i had to remove that and dilithium from the inv, otherwise ppl would be putting shields all over the place 16:32 FreeFull Also, I just found out you can sample fruit, so you only ever need to grow one orange =P 16:32 Peacock aha 16:32 Peacock i suspected as much 16:33 Peacock i have to add drowning =1 to water def 16:33 FreeFull And then restart? 16:33 Tesseract Peacock: cd /home/minetest/minetest_game && git pull 16:34 Peacock http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/423/untitle.JPG 16:34 Peacock i stopped updating minetest_game when mese started changing weekly 16:35 Tesseract Mese changed? 16:35 Peacock a long time ago lol 16:36 Tesseract It changed once, not weekly. 16:36 Peacock it changed a few times 16:36 Peacock the crafting, the crystals, the textures 16:37 Peacock besides the response then was, if you dont like the changes, make your own default game, and thats what alot of us did 16:37 Peacock can't complain now 16:38 Peacock and its alot better than getting pissy about every little thing like what PilzAdam had to put up with trying to update the game 16:38 Peacock amirite? 16:38 Tesseract It was all changed in one commit, and you are very far behind then... If you are so woried about CPU time you should update, there have been some major speed improvements in the mapgen. 16:39 Peacock mapgen.lua is essentially the same with more ores in it 16:39 Peacock unless im not seeing something 16:39 Tesseract Like using minetest.register_ore()? 16:41 Peacock mine still seems to use register_on_generated, but even then, i can change that part without having to update the whole of default and re-implement my changes 16:42 Tesseract Just use a old-mese mod. 16:42 DanDuncombe Jordach: If I sent you a blend file, could you export it as .x and make it texturable? 16:42 Peacock well thats like installing a mod to get rid of items when simply reversing item drops fixes the problem 16:43 Jordach DanDuncombe, later 16:43 Jordach i'm trying to make a new Animatic model (i really want to redo it.) 16:43 * Jordach is also in the mood for workinhg 16:43 Tesseract Peacock: Or a build script if you prefer... 16:43 DanDuncombe It will take me a while to make Jordach, I haven't even started yet. 16:44 Peacock i would but im not crazy about bash or whatever other thing i'd have to learn to do it lol 16:44 Peacock i have enough to learn on the website-creation front lol 16:44 Peacock ppl keep asking for fancy shit that will be out of fashion in a few years lol 16:45 Tesseract Peacock: Ask VanessaE about that, she uses a build script for her game. 16:45 Peacock though im glad the days of flash intros are gone lol 16:45 Peacock she has a build script and a custom conf i think 16:45 Peacock not sure what the conf does different tho 16:46 Peacock is it optimized for a uber-powerful computer, or optimized to run faster on slower comps? 16:46 Tesseract Of course she has a custom conf, it would be hard to run a server without writing your own. 16:47 Peacock well yeah but ive only added half a dozen lines 16:47 Peacock i dont really tinker with options i dont fully comprehend otherwise 16:47 Peacock i assume the defaults are fine in those cases 16:48 Tesseract Well then you have to read minetest.conf.example. :-) 16:48 Peacock i do lol 16:48 Peacock but its not always 100% obvious either 16:48 Peacock i notice some installers have this "optimizing for your hardware"stage 16:49 Peacock that would be cool for generating custom confs 16:49 thexyz that's like gentoo 16:49 Peacock well gentoo compiles everything specific to your profile? 16:49 Peacock (hardware profile i mean) 16:50 Calinou it claims to, it actually doesn't :P 16:50 Peacock lol ive never tried it so i wont guess 16:50 thexyz yeah 16:50 thexyz just add -mnative 16:50 Calinou 5% faster :P 16:50 thexyz -march=native, that is 16:51 Peacock on a dualcore i possibly wouldn't mind compiling everything, but not on the p4 lol 16:51 Peacock there aint enough beer at the corner store 16:51 thexyz well you can use distcc 16:51 Peacock !g distcc 16:51 MinetestBot Peacock: https://distcc.googlecode.com/ 16:52 thexyz only do if much free time 16:52 Peacock whereas linux usually comes with, gcc? 16:52 Peacock yeah lol 16:53 Calinou most distros use gcc, yes 16:54 Peacock with the exception of trying mpv, i wont try to play too much with the p4's OS, its getting harder and harder to get things to install properly the older it gets 16:54 Peacock heck a year after i bought it, the proprietary-graphics-thingy ceased to support the original card on it 16:54 Peacock much tearing ensued 16:55 thexyz tearing is awful 16:55 thexyz i only got rid of it with compton 16:56 Peacock !g compton 16:56 MinetestBot Peacock: http://www.comptoncity.org/ 16:56 thexyz NOPE 16:56 Peacock well the proprietary drivers for nvidia and ATI both have tearfree options which i use 16:56 thexyz https://github.com/chjj/compton 16:56 thexyz this didn't work for me 16:56 Peacock tearfree didn't work 16:56 Peacock ? 16:56 thexyz `./compton --vsync=opengl` did the trick 16:57 Calinou tearfree is slower 16:57 Calinou I don't notice tearing when moving windows, it's too fast 16:57 Peacock i notice tearing only started with the compositing desktops 16:57 thexyz Peacock: what options are you talking about? "sync to vblank"? 16:57 Peacock *noticed 16:58 Peacock hmm, amdcccle just says Tear Free, 16:58 Peacock i assume its sync to vblank, alot of FAQs and threads told me to try that 16:58 thexyz yeah, that didn't work for me 16:58 Peacock and even then, tearing only happen with compositing desktops and certain media players 16:59 Peacock so try finding a thread or faq with any one combination of hardware, DE and media player lol 16:59 Calinou tearing is more visisble in games with compositing on for me 16:59 Calinou (and reduces FPS, a lot) 16:59 thexyz for me dcompmgr worked the best, but it eats 100% of cpu for some reason and is not supported 17:00 Peacock also, for tearfree to work, i have to have compositing on 17:00 Peacock old standards colliding with new i guess lol 17:01 DanDuncombe Jordach, can you please change this to .x? https://www.dropbox.com/s/qd63hiolhkw6wvk/boat.blend 17:01 Jordach DanDuncombe, mhm 17:01 thexyz also, regarding video talk, it's too bad windows has got all the nice things 17:01 thexyz like http://www.svp-team.com/ 17:01 Jordach :D 17:02 Peacock even vlc works better on windows and its opensource so you'd think it'd be tops on linux 17:02 thexyz no, you shouldn't use vlc 17:02 Peacock with all the malware running in the background on win lol 17:02 Peacock malware/spyware/etc 17:03 Peacock and toolbars, so many toolbars lol 17:03 thexyz on win you're supposed to use mpc-hc i think 17:03 DanDuncombe Jordach, thanks. It shouldn't take long, as it is small. 17:03 thexyz with http://www.cccp-project.net/ codec pack 17:03 Peacock i wonder what the browser looks like if the user allows each installer to place it's toolbar lol 17:03 DanDuncombe There are no animations either 17:03 DanDuncombe Peacock: I did that once, and half the screen was toolbar. 17:04 PenguinDad !title 17:04 MinetestBot PenguinDad: CCCP - Combined Community Codec Pack 17:04 DanDuncombe https://www.dropbox.com/s/qd63hiolhkw6wvk/boat.blend 17:04 DanDuncombe !title 17:04 MinetestBot DanDuncombe: Dropbox - boat.blend 17:04 Peacock when i heard compton earlier i immediately thought of tupac lol 17:04 thexyz vlc: http://i.imgur.com/BmF52.jpg 17:04 DanDuncombe !title 17:04 MinetestBot DanDuncombe: Document isn't HTML 17:04 thexyz i think i posted this one earlier 17:05 Peacock which one is vlc? 17:05 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/kUzlm.jpg 17:05 thexyz um, both 17:05 Peacock ahh the side-by-sides are better :-) 17:06 Peacock well even i haven't had that bad an image with VLC, its mostly the occasional tearing and pixelation, and some movies, audio time delays 17:07 Peacock lol www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyIOKcRubFY 17:07 PilzAdam !title 17:07 MinetestBot PilzAdam: Document isn't HTML 17:08 Peacock odd 17:08 PilzAdam !title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyIOKcRubFY 17:08 MinetestBot PilzAdam: Stop VLC Player stuttering when playing HD MKV files! - YouTube 17:08 PenguinDad Hello sapier1 17:08 thexyz i thought it'll just tell you to download another player 17:08 sapier1 hello 17:08 Peacock yeah vlc just cant handle mkv's properly 17:10 DanDuncombe Jordach, have you exported it yet? 17:10 Peacock sucks mpv aint in the repos ill have to compile 17:10 Peacock which gstreamers do i need, good/bad/evil? 17:10 Jordach DanDuncombe, i'm busy atm 17:10 DanDuncombe How long till you can do it, Jordach? 17:10 Jordach probably tomorrow 17:10 PilzAdam thats what she said 17:11 Peacock ^ old meme is old :p 17:11 thexyz Peacock: you need ugly 17:11 DanDuncombe Jordach, when you do it, can you pm meon the forum with a download link? Thanks. 17:11 Jordach alright 17:11 thexyz Peacock: i'm not sure why do you need gstreamer 17:12 Peacock i thought mplayer used those? 17:13 thexyz dunno 17:13 Peacock may be wrong, but it was my understanding vlc has its own codecs builtin, but the other players use gstreamer? 17:14 DanDuncombe Can an entity have a formspec? 17:14 Peacock you can use show_formspec 17:14 sapier1 danduncombe have a look at mobf trader 17:14 DanDuncombe Ok. 17:15 DanDuncombe But can I make it s, say, when you press B when attached to the entity, it opens the inventory? 17:15 sapier1 don't hesitate to ask trader has a lot of more features 17:15 sokomine the traders are great 17:15 DanDuncombe Because right-clicking it makes you 'disembark' from the boat. 17:16 sapier1 you only have access to movent keys as far as I know 17:16 DanDuncombe Ok 17:20 * Jordach has finally worked out better arms :) 17:20 DanDuncombe Big-ass boat http://s23.postimg.org/dkavxg24b/screenshot_3137960.png 17:23 Peacock i wish someone would make the boat mod into an elevator mod (up and down motion) :p 17:24 DanDuncombe It shouldn't be too hard- look at the helicopter mod, maybe 17:25 Peacock the trickyest bit is having a single-piece elevator box 17:25 Peacock essentially using an oversized nodebox 17:25 Peacock and a custom inventory_image /item 17:26 Peacock and then, youd need an elevator door that when you open, the box appears behind it, cuz theres probably no way to call an entity that might be two dozen floors above, it wouldn't be loaded 17:27 DanDuncombe Bye guys 17:35 PenguinDad Hello Schweineschwarte 17:37 Schweineschwarte hello, I have a problem with minetest. the view is very small... here a picture: http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/3346/ihpotuyv_png.htm and here the outputcode von the console: http://openpaste.org/51C241De 17:37 Schweineschwarte can help me someone to solve this problem, please? :) 17:37 PilzAdam resize the window a bit 17:38 PilzAdam that paste link says "500 - Server error" 17:38 Peacock are we sure the ban works on names as well as IPs, cuz im seeing the same names i banned yesterday and the day before 17:40 Jordach Schweineschwarte, scale the window just a little 17:40 Jordach (even if it's a few pixels) 17:40 PilzAdam Jordach, thx for repeating what I said :-p 17:41 Schweineschwarte yes, with rescale of the window it works :) but I must rescale the windows everytime I start Minetest :( 17:41 PilzAdam what Irrlicht version do you use? 17:42 Schweineschwarte is it possible to change this permanent? :) 17:42 Schweineschwarte I use Irrlicht 1.8.0 17:43 PilzAdam the actual release? 17:44 Schweineschwarte I play with Minetest 0.4.7 17:45 Calinou screenW = N 17:45 Calinou screenH = N 17:45 Calinou where N are pixels 17:45 Calinou put that in your minetest.conf 17:47 PilzAdam Peacock, we dont have nick bans 17:48 PilzAdam bans are only done by IP 17:48 Peacock ah damn lol 17:48 Peacock should be either/or 17:49 Peacock + ip ranges 17:50 Peacock or add the show_ip pull request and ill code the lua myself :P 17:50 PilzAdam the nick is just there for description of the ban 17:51 PilzAdam !dev get_player_ip 17:51 PilzAdam MinetestBot? 17:51 Peacock on strike for better pay :p 17:51 PilzAdam anyway, Peacock, there already is minetest.get_player_ip() 17:51 Peacock get_player_ip was pulled? nice 17:51 Schweineschwarte @Calinou: no that not work really. The only effect is, that the total windows is lager, but the gameview stay small. 17:52 PenguinDad Schweineschwarte: have you tried latest git of minetest? 17:52 Jordach MinetestBot! 17:52 MinetestBot Jordach! 17:52 PenguinDad Hello MinetestBot 17:52 MinetestBot sup PenguinDad! 17:52 Schweineschwarte @PenguinDad: I have the minetestversion 0.4.7 from the offical opensuse repositories 17:54 PenguinDad AFAIK there was one fix for Irrlicht 1.8.0 in latest git 17:56 Schweineschwarte @PenguinDad: ok, then I wait for the new version :) 17:59 PenguinDad Schweineschwarte: you don't need the @ before names ;) 17:59 Exio4 this isn't twitter 18:00 PilzAdam PenguinDad, why do you recommend him the dev version? 18:00 Schweineschwarte ok, PenguinDad ;) 18:00 sapier1 maybe because most mods only work with it? ;-) ... I know this shouldn't be but it is 18:01 PenguinDad PilzAdam: I don't recommend the dev version or do i? 18:01 PilzAdam I thought you meant it like this 18:01 sapier1 you have: (19:54:46) PenguinDad: Schweineschwarte: have you tried latest git of minetest? 18:01 PenguinDad My mod works with 0.4.6, too. 18:02 PilzAdam anyway, you generally shouldnt recommend the dev version if you dont exactly know that there was a commit that fixed the problem 18:02 Peacock hmm, if anyone sees paramat, ask for lightrain mod :D 18:02 PenguinDad Oh I haven't noticed that :/ 18:07 NekoGloop meow 18:09 * PenguinDad hands NekoGloop a fish out 18:09 NekoGloop :3 18:09 * NekoGloop noms the fishy 18:09 * sfan5 throws a kitten at PenguinDad 18:10 Peacock can i redefine minetest.ban_player() even though its not defined in /builtin? 18:10 * PenguinDad catches the kitten 18:10 PilzAdam no 18:10 Peacock ill have to implement a seperate function and call minetest.ban_player through it 18:10 sfan5 umm 18:10 sapier1 ? you can define anything but not sure if it'll do what you want it to do 18:10 sfan5 you can redefine c++ functions too 18:11 Peacock oh yeah? sweet 18:11 sapier1 it's lua not c++ 18:11 sfan5 s/c++/from c++/ 18:11 sapier1 but if course if you define ban_player it'll replace the original one 18:11 Peacock id do local basic_ban = minetest.ban_player and redefine minetest.ban_player to include ip range and nick banning 18:11 sfan5 Peacock: that would work 18:11 Peacock sapier1 i'd be saving/referencing the old function to another name 18:11 sapier1 yes that'd work but you shouln't do that 18:12 Peacock why not? 18:12 sapier1 if any other mod relies on ban_player to behave the original way this will result in strange problems 18:12 sfan5 and you mod won't need to be loaded first except other mods have a local copy of minetest.ban_player 18:12 Peacock well its not for publication its just for my server 18:12 PilzAdam or, maybe you can 18:13 Peacock so far i dont think any of my mods localizes minetest.ban_player 18:13 sapier1 you should tell if you report any mod problems that may be related to it ;-) 18:13 Peacock except the autoban script, which is where ill stick the new ban function 18:13 Jordach Peacock, make the mod scamble the player file 18:13 Peacock scamble? 18:13 Jordach eg, fill with random numbers 18:13 sfan5 scramble 18:14 Peacock what would that do? 18:14 Jordach to the engine: it looks like a corrupted player file 18:14 Jordach they also lose all their shit 18:14 Peacock i just want to prevent people from coming back with a different name or ip 18:15 Peacock well if they can't come back what does it matter if they can access their inv :p 18:15 Peacock if they come back then ive obviously failed lol 18:15 sapier1 you risk destroying other players data 18:15 Peacock yeah no i dont wanna crash the server for the cheap thrill of ruining someone's inv lol 18:16 Peacock which is of no consequence if this works 18:16 Peacock im a lazy sob lol i like to ban people once, and if they persist, ban the next 255 IPs they might use lol 18:17 sapier1 in general ip banning isn't very usefull 18:17 Calinou for someone with a static IP, it is 18:17 Peacock yeah well when i saw the names stored in the banlist i thought the engine checked those too 18:17 sapier1 for some special cases it may be an option but most time you'll risk banning wrong person 18:18 Peacock but i already have a joinplayer function to check for guest names, so adding an array of nicname=true isn't much trouble 18:19 Peacock though pretty soon ill come up with a full string match to check that a player has lowercase letters in their name and no more than two digits 18:19 Peacock people who pick long complicated names obviously do it because its a bitch to ban lol 18:20 BrandonReese I blocked the whole 87.172. IP range because of a hacker 18:20 Peacock ill keep an eye out for that 18:20 Peacock have you gotten an invisible player? 18:20 Peacock possibly by the name of aeriel? 18:21 BrandonReese Sorry 84.172, no my problem player was ano_ubeccu, rotor112 and DS 18:21 Peacock ive had DS, didn't grief on mine 18:21 Peacock rotor didn't last long 18:21 Peacock other guy never seen 18:21 BrandonReese did he fly through walls? 18:21 Peacock naw, if they do i ban on sight 18:22 Peacock in any case, next on my list is a python script that gets called on shutdown, creates a unique zip of the world 18:23 BrandonReese Are you on Linux or Windows? 18:23 Peacock linuses 18:23 Peacock (plural :P) 18:23 Peacock python because i need the script to sleep to make sure minetest shutdown before trying to zip up the worldpath 18:23 Peacock if its anything like mapper, it wont work while running 18:23 PenguinDad Linuses is the plural of my real name :o 18:24 Jordach ^ Linux 18:24 Jordach Linus* 18:24 BrandonReese ok you confused me for a minute. My startup script backs up before startup, just cp's to another directory 18:24 Peacock that could work too, is it posted somewhere? 18:25 iqualfragile sdl2 will be released this week! HL3 confirmed 18:27 Calinou so distro repos will finally have it? :D 18:27 BrandonReese Here is my startup script/auto restart script and backup script 18:27 BrandonReese http://pastebin.com/xE23Kb30 18:28 sapier1 sdl2? 18:28 iqualfragile yep 18:28 PenguinDad Calinou: In 6 months is it in the repos :P 18:28 sapier1 what is sdl2? 18:28 iqualfragile SDL version 2 18:28 sapier1 ohhh :-) 18:28 sapier1 version 2? wow 18:29 Calinou fixes: copy-paste on linux, key input 18:29 Peacock oh thanks :-)_ 18:29 Calinou adds bugs: buggy alt-tab 18:29 Peacock i suck at bash lol 18:29 Peacock i can literally bash a printer, but thats about it lol 18:29 iqualfragile adds awsomenes: multiple mouses supported 18:30 BrandonReese that's about the extent of my bash skills 18:31 Peacock i had simply made a launcher to start minetestserver in the terminal lol 18:37 Tesseract BrandonReese: You should try my python script, it uses rsync and makes maps. 18:39 Tesseract http://ix.io/7eo 18:39 PenguinDad !title 18:39 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Document isn't HTML 18:40 Tesseract PenguinDad: ix.io shows you raw paste data. It is a terminal pastebin. And you don't need to run !title on every link... 18:41 PilzAdam PenguinDad, use /msg MinetestBot !title [link] 18:41 PenguinDad sorry 18:44 Peacock minetest.get_player_ip() works with name or playerobj? 18:44 Tesseract Peacock: Name. 18:44 Peacock thsnkd 18:44 Peacock *thanks 18:56 Peacock when the localhost is connected, its always 127.0.0.1? 18:57 Peacock (gonna test ip-range banning on wan) 18:58 Evergreen I am sad, it is the last day before school. :( 18:58 sapier1 ip-range baning? thats evil :-( 18:59 * Exio4 bans *!*@* 18:59 Peacock alot of people think i am so it suits me :P 18:59 Jordach awww 18:59 sapier1 problem with ip range baning is most isps use rather big networks so you need to ban a whole isp in order do have any effect 19:00 Peacock and the problem with not having it is griefers aren't dumb, they release/renew ip and come back 19:00 Peacock besides even the channels op's use it here, so how evil can it be? 19:01 sapier1 it's a "last option" action a op decides to do ... I assumed you want to use a automated way of baning am I wrong? 19:01 Peacock no the ip ranges are static in the script, nick-banning is automated though by overwriting minetest.ban_player 19:02 * sokomine puts exio4 in a singleplayer world where there's nothing around 19:02 Peacock besides aren't you the guy that wrote the security hardon? i thought you'd like it 19:03 Exio4 the main problem is: ips are uber-dynamic or static 19:03 Exio4 you change it every 15 seconds or you can't change it 19:03 Exio4 that is the "problem" 19:03 Exio4 and the ips are reused 19:04 thexyz inb4 griefers learn to use vpn 19:05 Peacock whadda want me to say? i cant spend all my time banning the same people 19:05 Peacock if theyre setting up vpn's to grief then they have alot more time on their hands than i thought lol 19:05 sokomine maybe you just ought to revoke their interact. if they're griefers, they might be pretty dumb and take some time to notice 19:06 Peacock why so they can bullshit the admin on the forum to get interact, and when they get caught, blame their "brother"? lol 19:06 Peacock or kid sister lol 19:06 sokomine brothers are extremly popular for that kind of thing :-) if you ask, it's almost always some sibling or another who did the griefing 19:07 Peacock theyll say anything to get interact and deflect blame anyhow, at least this way i can spot them right away 19:07 sokomine maybe you ought to ask "do you have any siblings?" at the beginning - and ban people who admit to have some :) 19:07 Peacock when the "sibling" happens to be using the same nick, i have my doubts :p 19:07 * Jordach_ is surprised no-one is greifing with TOR 19:08 Peacock this situation really does suck though, theres not much incentive for others to setup servers if they spend all their time dealing with this sortof thing :p 19:08 Tesseract Peacock: In single player it is always 127.0.0.1 or ::1 19:09 Tesseract However in multiplayer it can be, for example, 192.168.1.2 or 19:09 sokomine it's the same on minecraft servers. at least on classic. i've to ban by now about 10 players before i find one who manages to build a simple guest house and can thus be accepted as a real player on the server 19:09 Peacock 1.2 is fine, the wan 192.168.2.* 19:10 Peacock seriously, real players use freebuild, good builders get citizenship, but very few make it to that tier lol 19:13 sokomine some are children. they may be bored/might not know what to do. i've seen players who - withhin one or two hours - griefed, built houses, defended other peoples houses against other griefers, griefed those griefers houses etc. 19:14 Peacock i dont really care if its first strike or retaliation, griefing is no lol 19:14 Peacock Down is good, up is no :p 19:15 sokomine is that why you made ground level 10 blocks below cloud level or so? :) 19:15 sokomine my poor building is covered by clouds half of the time! 19:17 Peacock ground level is where its supposed to be :P i raised the sea to y=100 :P 19:18 Peacock and i disabled clouds at my end, since my towers always pass them lol 19:20 sokomine i see them travelling through my building at the top floor :-( and it's not that high 19:20 Peacock unfortunately i cant disable clouds at the server end 19:21 sokomine you could have made a flat world out of water i guess 19:21 sokomine but for now...please rescue me from your prison! i beamed there out of curiosity and didn't find a way out 19:21 Peacock i still wanted a ground level, with an underground to mine/build 19:21 Peacock lol 19:24 Jordach_ BTW, i just revised my Sam II model 19:24 Peacock id better find a way to disable the prison button on the console lol 19:25 sokomine how can further stations be added? 19:25 Peacock i add them lol 19:25 Peacock i used to leave it up to the players 19:25 Peacock after two days i had ten pages 19:25 sokomine for the prison: just build a place for visitors where they can look inside and leave again. and maybe buy some cake :) 19:27 Peacock was drae jailed or did he go there himself? 19:27 Peacock im pretty sure he got himself banned yesterday 19:28 Jordach_ sokomine, did you see this? http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/311/mystery.png 19:28 Jordach_ i want to leave it there for a week (i have already finished that render) 19:29 sokomine possibly. he asked how long it took to get free again 19:29 Peacock yeah screw him i saw he tried to dig the pad 19:29 Peacock he wont be able to come back when i restart with the new ban 19:29 sokomine oooh! a whole mt-family! cute! 19:30 Jordach_ sokomine, keep an eye out on my renders topic 19:30 Jordach_ https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105141#p105141 19:30 Jordach_ ^ that being one of then 19:30 sokomine jordach: can you do textures/skins for mt as well? i need skins for the inhabitants of my villages 19:30 * Jordach does do that 19:31 * sokomine looks hopefully at jordach in this case :-) 19:31 * Jordach needs more than just an idea to skin from 19:31 sokomine that's understandable. what i need is a man and women who live as farmers. the buildings are rather medieval, but i wouldn't fix clothing on that 19:32 Calinou fun fact: my Minecraft skin is a black guy like that 19:32 Calinou (less visible :) 19:32 Jordach sokomine, fun fact: the castle skyblock render has two custom skins by me in it (three if you count Sam II) 19:32 sokomine hmm. i'll see if i can find a photo somewhere that comes close 19:32 Jordach sokomine, i made a skin based off of VanessaE's old forum avatar 19:32 sokomine your renders look fine :-) 19:33 Jordach the older ones are jokes compared to my new ones :P 19:33 Jordach i also have a template human model so any skins that are different, i make one from a cloned template 19:34 Jordach (which technically means all players in minetest share the identical genes; sounds really strange.) 19:34 Jordach btw, new generation of models incoming 19:35 sokomine sounds fine :-) 19:35 sokomine they don' 19:35 sokomine they don't have to be too detailed, though more detailed models might work as well. the mobs will be mobf-ones 19:36 Jordach 1st: stu's elbows and knees, 2nd: custom models made from Taoki's model, 3rd: custom models worked even further, larger eyes for more expressions, body can now bend over (not like that :P) 19:37 missbows is damn a bad word ? 19:37 Calinou yes 19:37 missbows oh..... 19:37 NekoGloop meow 19:39 kaeza there are no good words or bad words; it depends on context 19:40 kaeza also, greetings 19:44 aldobr hi ahi all 19:48 mitori hello everyone 19:48 Calinou hi 19:48 mitori can someone tell me this one little simple thing - what height do nyan cats start spawning? 19:48 Jordach New Animation Model Get: http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/312/newmodel.png 19:49 Jordach (for now, no mouth) 19:50 Peacock weird, whats wrong with : IPRBANS[192] = { 168 = {2 = true},} 19:50 Jordach (i'm using the child texture because i had a misclick) 19:51 Tesseract mitori: minetest_game/mods/default/mapgen.lua 19:53 Tesseract Peacock: How about iprbans = {["192.168.2"] = true} 19:53 Peacock its multi-dim table 19:53 Tesseract I know. 19:53 Exio4 IPBANS sounds like a C macro 19:53 * Exio4 preprocesses Peacock 19:53 Tesseract How does that work with IPv6? 19:53 * Calinou libboosts Exio4 19:54 Peacock when more than two people use ipv6 ill worry about it lol 19:54 Exio4 you could just make an array for matches 19:54 Exio4 ipbans = {"192.168.2.*", "whatever::*"} 19:54 Exio4 (or how you could do that in lua, i don't know it) 19:54 Peacock hm, 19:55 Peacock how would i string match an ip to an array key? 19:55 Exio4 it would be, 1) easy to code, 2) provide easy adaptation 19:55 Exio4 Peacock: what? 19:56 Peacock if i use the ip range as a key, it wont match any of the input IPs since its missing a block 19:56 kaeza Peacock, array[s] ? 19:56 Peacock and i was hoping to avoid looping through it 19:56 Tesseract local ip = minetest.get_player_ip(name) for _, match in pairs(ipbans) do 19:56 Exio4 use luajit 19:57 Tesseract if ip:find(match) then mibetest.ban_player(name) end end 19:57 kaeza MB? 19:57 kaeza :D 19:57 Peacock in other words, how do i make an entry in a multi-dim array on one line? 19:57 kaeza derp 19:57 Peacock would be nice if i could just do IPRBANS[192][168][2] = true, but lua wont let you 19:58 Exio4 i don't know how to code that in lua 19:58 kaeza Peacock, yes, you can 19:58 Exio4 :P 19:58 Tesseract Peacock: That is a bad way to do it. Do iprbans[192.."."..168.."."..2.."\..*"] = true 19:58 Peacock kaeza just tried "attempt to index a nil value" 19:59 kaeza IPRBANS = { [192] = { [168] = { [2] = true } } } 19:59 kaeza or actually, more complex than that 19:59 Tesseract kaeza: That overwrites the table. 19:59 Peacock or 19:59 Tesseract s/"\."/\\./g 19:59 kaeza Peacock, you need to keep track of every "dimension" separately 20:00 Peacock table.insert(IPRBANS,{ [192] = { [168] = { [2] = true } } }) 20:00 kaeza eh no 20:00 aldobr kaeza: hi 20:00 Peacock that overwrites each key too lol 20:00 kaeza hi aldobr 20:00 aldobr im working on a gcode interpreter for minetest 20:00 aldobr to allow designing things with freecad and importing into minetest world 20:00 Peacock lua wont let ya do IPRBANS[192][168][2] = true without initializing *each* dimension lol 20:01 Tesseract Peacock: This is a very, very, very, very, very, very hacky and ugly way to do this. 20:01 Peacock looping through an array is like taking the scenic route, especially with more entries 20:02 Peacock cuz i grab the player IP, split by '.', and check each block 20:02 kaeza Peacock, http://pastebin.com/zRiXNy6G 20:02 kaeza something like that 20:02 Peacock rather than loop through each entry and do a string match on each 20:02 aldobr aint a array able to hold [192][168] etc fill 4gb ? 20:02 Tesseract Peacock: No, it will be much more efficient, and Lua can go through hundreds of bilions of entries in miliseconds. 20:03 kaeza actually, it is a hacky way, yes 20:03 kaeza but regex matching is sloooooow 20:03 Peacock i like to avoid it whenever possible lol 20:04 kaeza Peacock, with my paste, you can do for example add_ip(123,45,67,true) to ban 123.45.67.* 20:04 Tesseract Peacock: Even if you ban half the players on your server (I actually wouldn't be surprised) it should be plenty fast. 20:04 sokomine depends...if it's executed once for all regexps when a player joins on peacocks' server, it most likely will not be a big problem 20:05 kaeza oh derp, forgot the is_ip_banned 20:06 Peacock that parts done, it was just adding entries to the thing lol 20:06 kaeza Peacock, paste updated 20:07 Peacock gonna see if my wife is ip range banned lol 20:07 kaeza now it's up to you how to split the IP address into individual components 20:08 kaeza (may actually be useful for other things too) 20:09 Peacock shit, i was sposed to use my external ip lol 20:09 Peacock trying again 20:09 kaeza lol 20:10 aldobr :/ 20:11 Peacock 16:10:10: ACTION[ServerThread]: LadyMacBeth banned [ip-range] 20:11 Peacock works :-) 20:11 Peacock now to unban before she gets back :/ lol 20:11 Calinou MacBethMacBethMacBethMacBethMacBethMacBethMacBeth 20:11 Calinou *Peacock gets struck by lightning* 20:12 kaeza [17:02:49] aint a array able to hold [192][168] etc fill 4gb ? 20:12 Peacock nick ban also works :-) 20:12 kaeza nope 20:12 aldobr so its not a true matrix but a sparse matrix 20:12 aldobr nice 20:13 kaeza yep 20:13 aldobr but spart matrixes get slower as you fill then 20:13 aldobr *sparse 20:13 aldobr well 20:13 aldobr my project is ruined 20:14 aldobr the slicer is too complex to install correctly 20:14 aldobr most people wont be able to 20:14 sokomine what does it do? 20:14 aldobr it takes a 3d object and creates a series of layers 20:14 aldobr you input a 3d cad file and it generates g-code for cnc mill 20:15 sokomine and what are the layers about? i'm not very familar with 3d objects and their modelling 20:15 aldobr my plan was to write a lua g-code interpreter 20:15 sokomine aah 20:15 sokomine for a real machine or for mt? 20:15 aldobr for mt 20:15 aldobr :D 20:15 aldobr installed the whole perl set of libs and includes 20:15 aldobr and yet more to install 20:16 kaeza aldobr, actually, since Lua tables are actually mappings, and the keys have no limits, you can fill up any amount of memory given enough time :) 20:16 aldobr need a easier 3d slicer 20:16 sokomine good luck with it! sounds like a nice idea 20:16 kaeza even if e.g. lua_Number is a long double (or whatever is the largest builtin data type in the C language) 20:17 kaeza more so with strings :P 20:18 kaeza or...whatever 20:18 aldobr hm 20:26 aldobr man 20:26 aldobr i have to go to the technical school and the thing is still installing perl dependencies 20:39 thexyz minetest.net down 20:40 PilzAdam seems so 20:40 * sfan5 can confirm 20:40 kaeza yep 20:40 PilzAdam somone care to tell celeron? 20:40 sfan5 seems to be a TTL problem 20:40 sfan5 "From vlan190.car2.Phoenix1.Level3.net (4.53.110.25) icmp_seq=2 Time to live exceeded" 20:48 thexyz shit guys 20:48 thexyz we should hide offtopic to guests 20:48 thexyz *from 20:48 thexyz but whatever 20:48 PilzAdam yea 20:48 PilzAdam is that possible? 20:48 thexyz yeah, done 20:49 thexyz i've decided that quality of "offtopic" section is impossible to improve 20:49 Peacock could reban ragnar lol 20:49 Peacock kidding 20:49 * sdzen claps slowly 20:50 thexyz butthurt incoming in … … … 20:50 Peacock he'll probably find a way on his own lol 20:51 jin_xi ellipsis ellipsis 20:51 Peacock 10$ says its a beastiality pic next time :p 20:52 sdzen hmmm 20:52 sdzen time to call cornernote? 20:53 sdzen can we ban him for having an IQ of 12? 20:54 thexyz no 20:54 thexyz because equality 20:55 * sdzen is a socialist 20:55 thexyz also, I adblocked all avatars and guess what, discussion quality drastically improved! 20:56 sdzen now turn off colored text 20:56 sdzen :) 20:56 sdzen coloured* 20:56 thexyz there isn't much colored text 20:58 Peacock lol https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105272#p105272 20:59 sdzen https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105285#p105285 is he correcting himself without editing? 21:00 Peacock he's DPing lol 21:01 sdzen in advance, nothing against autism testfags 21:04 Peacock what i dont get is the radical difference between avatars, which is the real one? 21:04 kaeza Aang 21:06 Calinou sdzen: be nice to people; don't insult them 21:07 Peacock if you have nothing nice to say, crack open their skulls and feast on the warm goo inside :P XD 21:07 Peacock wasnt that from, the simpsons or something? 21:09 Peacock oh shit, stop and frisk in NYC ruled unconstitutional, some faith in humanity restored 21:15 kaeza oh nice! when quoting a post with an [img] tag, only the URL is quoted 21:15 Calinou upvoting Elementary OS trolls in NYC ruled legal 21:15 Calinou 21:15 Calinou kaeza: yep, since a few days ago 21:16 thexyz sdzen: this post is acceptable on 4chan only 21:17 Peacock well im lost lol 21:18 Peacock !g Elementary OS 21:18 MinetestBot Peacock: http://elementaryos.org/ 21:19 Peacock wow, looks like an apple store lol 21:20 Calinou le flash video homepage 21:20 Calinou "$10" lol'd 21:20 Peacock 10$ for what exactly? 21:20 Calinou at least they recommend 64 bit by default 21:20 Peacock the webdesigner? 21:20 Calinou Peacock: they suggest a donation 21:21 thexyz you can get it for free 21:21 thexyz there's a link right below the button 21:22 Peacock i guess it depends what they use it for, i dont even like giving to charities anymore since finding out how much some of those people earn (and take in adminstrative fees) 21:38 Peacock i'd donate to adblock tho, they rock 21:43 NekoGloop the whole point of donating to adblock is to pay them directly 21:44 NekoGloop It's not like they're covering it up with "help the homeless" or "cure for cancer" 21:49 Peacock thats the thing 21:49 Peacock id rather buy a homeless person some breakfast/lunch 21:49 Peacock cuz 10$ to a charity, they get maybe 3-4$ from that in value 21:50 Peacock the rest goes to managing the organization itself 21:55 Pam Hello all, I a new to this whole minetest thing 21:56 Pam I was woundering if someone can walk me through step by step how to create a flat singleplayer world 21:57 Pam I know it 21:58 Pam I know its kind of annoying of me 21:58 Pam to be all noob like 21:58 Pam But it would really mean lot 22:04 Pam Anyone? 22:05 sdzen hello 22:05 sdzen https://forum.minetest.net/search.php?search_id=711134179 22:07 sdzen what you need to know from there would be setting mg_flags = flat 22:07 sdzen in your minetest.conf 22:08 sdzen you will also want to add trees, caves, v6_jungles, dungeons, 22:08 sdzen to the mg_flags if you wish 22:12 Pam Your link leads to nothing 22:12 Pam Do I make the world flat before I enter it 22:16 sdzen did you read what I said under the links 22:18 Pam Yes, I don't understand 22:18 Pam Should I create the world first? 22:19 PilzAdam Pam, I could lead you 22:19 Pam That would amazing 22:19 sdzen no don't create it first 22:19 PilzAdam first of all: what OS do you use? 22:19 Pam What's os 22:19 Peacock lol 22:19 Peacock gl 22:19 PilzAdam operating system, like "windows" or "linux" 22:19 Pam Oh, I use Windows Vista 22:19 Peacock "fisher price", etc. 22:19 PilzAdam how did you install Minetest? 22:20 Pam Went to the website and followed what it said 22:20 Pam Runs good in multiplayer 22:20 Pam I want to create a singleplayer flat world 22:20 PilzAdam so you have a minetest folder somewhere, that has stuff like "bin/" etc. in it? 22:20 Pam Yes 22:20 PilzAdam there is a file called minetest.conf in it 22:21 Pam One sec, I will check 22:21 Pam I have a few folders the a conf file and a example file 22:22 PilzAdam good 22:22 Pam the example file is called minetest.conf 22:22 PilzAdam you open conf file with notepad 22:22 Pam Okay let me open it 22:22 Pam It's open, filled with a bunch of stuff 22:23 PilzAdam ok, in this file there are several settings 22:23 PilzAdam each line is one setting 22:23 PilzAdam with the part in front of the "=" being the name, and the part after it the value 22:24 Pam okay 22:24 Pam I understand 22:24 PilzAdam you are now going to add a new setting: add a new line and type: mg_flags = 22:24 Pam all the way at the bottom 22:24 PilzAdam yes 22:25 PilzAdam it doesnt really matter where you put it, but be sure its in an extra line 22:25 Pam okay on a new line I wrote mg_flags = 22:25 PilzAdam then after the "=" you put a list of different settings 22:25 PilzAdam e.g. mg_flags = caves, flat, trees 22:26 PilzAdam that will tell the mapgenerator, to create a flat world with caves and trees 22:26 Pam Do I space after = 22:26 Pam I wrote it like mg_flags =e.g. mg_flags = caves, flat, trees 22:26 PilzAdam the line should look like: 22:26 PilzAdam mg_flags = caves, flat, trees 22:27 PilzAdam (I just repeated the mg_flags part the second time, but you are not supposed to type that multiple times) 22:27 Pam Okay So it looks like this 22:28 Pam mg_flags = caves, flat, trees 22:28 PilzAdam fine, save the file 22:28 Pam okay 22:28 Pam Now create a world 22:28 PilzAdam start minetest and create a world and go into it 22:31 Pam Oh wow 22:31 Pam It worked 22:31 PilzAdam nice 22:31 Pam Thank You Pilzadam 22:31 Pam Now any world I create will be flat 22:31 PilzAdam the setting is now copied over to the world directory 22:31 Pam This does not effect multiplayer right 22:31 PilzAdam it stays flat when you remove the line from the config file 22:31 PilzAdam the setting is only read at creation 22:32 Pam Awesome 22:32 PilzAdam it does not effect multiplayer, since the server runs the map 22:32 Pam Thank you for helping me 22:32 PilzAdam np 22:32 Pam Sorry I was such a noob 22:32 Pam or came off rude 22:32 PilzAdam there are tons of settings to play arround with in minetest.conf 22:32 Pam Thank you 22:32 Peacock epic fail: "INSTRUCTOR SHOOTS STUDENT IN OHIO GUN SAFETY CLASS" 22:32 Peacock sorry for caps (AP news) 22:32 Pam lol 22:33 Peacock i can picture "and this is how you not do it" lol 22:33 Pam Alright I am going to have fun 22:33 Pam take care 22:33 Peacock must be the Basil Fawlty of gun safety lol 22:33 Pam ty again 22:33 PilzAdam Pam, if you want to edit the conf file in the future: lines starting with a # will be ignored 22:33 Pam k 22:33 Pam good to know 22:48 iqualfragile_ night gents 22:58 NekoGloop meow 23:01 VanessaE hi all 23:02 * NekoGloop curls up in VanessaE's lap 23:04 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105283#p105283 <--- "ohhh... SHIT." 23:06 PilzAdam that aint "oh shit" 23:06 PilzAdam thats more like seeing your grandparents doing.... 23:06 VanessaE heh 23:07 VanessaE heh. 23:08 PilzAdam I would expect the mouth to be open, then it would be "ohhh..... SHIT" 23:14 Peacock oh shit face with the camera suspisciously cut off lol 23:14 Peacock hm, spelling fail lol 23:15 VanessaE PilzAdam: but, I mean "oh shit.", not "oh shit!". There's a subtle difference :) 23:16 PilzAdam > I mean <- I though it was Abe? 23:17 Peacock Shinzo Abe, the Japanese PM? 23:17 VanessaE no, "I" in this case because I had to transcribe what he said :) 23:19 Tesseract Taoki|away: http://kylej.name/irc-away-status.html 23:20 Tesseract Anyone got a Minetest DoS script? >:-) 23:20 Peacock if he's away then he can't hear you :P 23:21 Tesseract Peacock: For when he comes back. 23:21 PilzAdam we should make MinetestBot autokick *idle* and *away* 23:21 VanessaE no, we shouldn't. 23:22 VanessaE you may as well kick anyone who hasn't spoken for 10-15 mins as well 23:22 Tesseract ssh -p 12345 shadowbot@computer... 23:22 Tesseract ;-) 23:22 Peacock DoS is illegal last i checked 23:22 Tesseract Peacock: For testing on my own servers of course. 23:22 Peacock of course :p 23:22 VanessaE Peacock: DOS should have been illegal before it ever.. oh wait. 23:22 VanessaE :P 23:23 hoodedicw ouch 23:23 Peacock i think even sharing that kind of sw is illegal in my country 23:23 Tesseract LOL VanessaE. 23:23 PilzAdam hoodedice, you know, there is this thing called "/nick" 23:24 * Tesseract is trying to do it in both python and C++, and failing... 23:24 PilzAdam it doesnt require your computer to reboot to change your nick 23:24 hoodedice ohkay, thanks 23:24 hoodedice Do you think my PCs can reboot that fast ? 23:24 Tesseract There isn't any documentation on anything but the initial connection. 23:24 VanessaE mine used to :P 23:24 PilzAdam SSD + Linux and you got your shell in 5 seconds 23:24 VanessaE (the new SSD should be here on Thursday) 23:24 PilzAdam maybe less 23:25 hoodedice Windows. HDD. 23:25 VanessaE PilzAdam: from POST to desktop, 20 seconds give or take. 23:25 hoodedice Not less than 5 minutes 23:26 PilzAdam if windows decideds to update then you can just go buy a new computer 23:26 Peacock even on hdd #! loads pretty fast 23:26 VanessaE #! (crunchbang)? 23:27 * Jordach has noticed kaeza and VanessaE like the 3rd Sam model 23:27 hoodedice It's been updating everyday since the last two weeks 23:27 * sdzen computer running windoz startup 2:53 linux 0:57 23:27 Jordach and yes. i've been playing Borderlands 2 btw 23:27 hoodedice Windows XP 23:27 Peacock crunchybang yeah 23:28 Jordach plol 23:28 VanessaE Jordach: so the look means...? 23:28 Jordach VanessaE, it grants better usage of expressions 23:29 hoodedice It's like OH MAH GAWD ! 23:30 hoodedice PilzYo, Xubuntu gets u running in a minute. 23:30 hoodedice *UP 23:30 VanessaE "You did what? To who? FOR HOW MANY COOKIES!?" 23:30 hoodedice I DID NOT JUST SEE THAT ! 23:30 PilzAdam CAPSLOCK PARTY! 23:30 * Jordach YAWNS 23:30 JORDACH SOLVED. 23:30 * NekoGloop BITES JORDACH 23:30 Peacock *no performing sexual favours for sudafed on the public channels* 23:32 ICEISAWESOME INDEED 23:32 PilzAdam "ICE" as in the german train? 23:32 ICEISAWESOME !g everquest next 23:32 MinetestBot ICEISAWESOME: https://www.everquestnext.com/ 23:33 ICEISAWESOME Ok, I saw this a few minutes ago. 23:34 PilzAdam why does every new MMO game has half naked elves? 23:34 VanessaE fanservice, why else? 23:34 PilzAdam oh well, *MMORPG 23:34 VanessaE same reason every game seems to feature at least one female model with G-cups. 23:34 ICEISAWESOME I was thinking about the voxel-nature of this game -.- 23:35 hoodedice (Is it voxel anyway?) 23:36 Jordach PilzAdam, <3 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105303#p105303 23:36 PilzAdam ;-) 23:36 PilzAdam hoodedice, cant see anything voxely in that page 23:37 hoodedice Indeed, I noiticed it later 23:37 hoodedice I must be sleepy 23:37 Peacock a forum for two people lol 23:37 hoodedice I'm gonna join if they start lua 23:37 hoodedice -.- 23:37 Peacock who gets to be the admin, who gets to be the moderator, and who will they moderate/admin over? 23:37 hoodedice ALL of them 23:37 * Jordach prefers Minetest Forums 23:37 PilzAdam hoodedice, you really take that tutorial stuff serious? 23:38 hoodedice (No.) 23:38 hoodedice (But then again, I don't really lua 23:38 hoodedice *) 23:40 PilzAdam https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/866#issuecomment-22498184 23:40 PilzAdam can anyone understand that guy? 23:42 VanessaE PilzAdam: I've done something similar before actually. 23:42 hoodedice I don't get it? 23:42 hoodedice Slows down dude in air? 23:42 VanessaE I think he means HybridDog's comment 23:43 hoodedice Dog's comment looks ironic 23:43 VanessaE with this guy's fix, no more Mario-style jump-turns :( 23:43 VanessaE :D 23:43 hoodedice Oh. 23:43 * Jordach comes back to the channel with warm buttery toast 23:44 * VanessaE steals the toast 23:44 * PilzAdam noms the toats 23:44 Jordach i havent eaten all day :P 23:44 VanessaE you're nom'ing toads? 23:44 hoodedice I got it 23:44 hoodedice all velocity would instantly slow to a stop. 23:45 hoodedice I didn't read that line before 23:45 Jordach mmm, better; nothing like a midnight snack 23:46 Jordach btw: i might have worked out how to do a mouth 23:46 Jordach it's actually really simple 23:46 Jordach (it needs 8 bones) 23:46 hoodedice 8 bones? 23:47 hoodedice Quoting PilzAdam : "Not voxel enough" 23:47 VanessaE 8 bones just to move two lips, a jaw, and presumably the tongue? 23:47 Jordach nope. the lips need 4 points to make smiles, frowns, etc 23:47 Jordach think about it 23:47 Jordach look at a real human mouth, two in the centre, two on outside 23:48 hoodedice 52 muslces to make a frown, they say 23:48 VanessaE ah, I didn't think of smiles et.al 23:48 VanessaE et al. * 23:49 VanessaE just open/close 23:50 Jordach VanessaE, that's how gen 2 worked 23:50 Jordach i might end up making JSF 23:50 Jordach Jordach's (Animatic) Skin format 23:51 PilzAdam http://youtu.be/Aj_eaclFPWE 23:51 VanessaE !title 23:51 MinetestBot VanessaE: Revenge - Behind the Scenes - YouTube 23:52 hoodedice craft? 23:52 PilzAdam its about a Minecraft animation 23:52 VanessaE the funniest one of those minecraft ones I've seen so far was one I think Jordach pointed to recently 23:52 hoodedice Giving Jordach inspiration? 23:53 Jordach recently? 23:53 Jordach hold on a tick. 23:53 Peacock minecraft? someone hold his legs, ill fetch a rug :P 23:53 Jordach if we use the MC skin format, why not make our own animatic models 23:53 VanessaE Jordach: it had "that guy" (not sure it was Steve) along with a zombie and Slenderman, fighting several creepers. 23:53 Jordach and yes, i've tried to understand other's blender rigs myself btw 23:54 Jordach good google chrome, it knew what you said VanessaE 23:54 VanessaE ? 23:57 Jordach VanessaE, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRchUwaZ6YA 23:57 Jordach !title 23:57 MinetestBot Jordach: Creeper Encounter - A Minecraft Animation - YouTube 23:57 Jordach oh, and: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4QILyDk3TM <- new one :) 23:57 VanessaE Jordach: yep, that( first one)'s the one. 23:58 Jordach jesus CHRIST 23:58 VanessaE your models are rapidly getting to that ^^ point, too 23:58 Jordach i spotted something in his animation 23:58 Jordach and it's the same problem i had with my model 23:58 VanessaE (I watch with the sound off) 23:58 Jordach (identical.) 23:59 VanessaE haha 23:59 VanessaE (horse trying to cut his rope with a torch :D )