IRC log for #minetest, 2013-07-30

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Time	Nick	Message
00:00	Peacock	http://youtu.be/NZkStSdlh3c
00:00	PilzAdam	!title
00:00	MinetestBot	PilzAdam: Family Guy - Palestinian Alarm Clock - YouTube
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00:39	Peacock	awesome https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102672#p102672
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00:42	VanessaE	wow, nice cheat!
00:42	VanessaE	using flowing liquid to do it
00:42	Peacock	seriously i would have never thought of it
00:45	Peacock	one could make a whole replacement default off that idea
00:45	VanessaE	*nod*
00:45	VanessaE	I'd like to see this extended into a full mod that covers all the standard terrain blocks
00:45	Peacock	heck even my leaning tower of madrid would look better that way
00:46	Exio4	how funny, downloading a texture takes more than fixing a bu
00:46	Exio4	+g
00:46	Peacock	though mods like moreblocks could have a 'flowing' version of each node too
00:46	PilzAdam	VanessaE, note that the collissionbox is still blocky
00:46	VanessaE	yeah, I saw
00:46	Peacock	i can deal with that lol
00:46	VanessaE	not much can be done about that I guess
00:46	Peacock	at least it looks better thou
00:46	Peacock	*though
00:47	PilzAdam	s/better/different
00:47	PilzAdam	"better" is a matter of personal preference
00:47	Peacock	not all nodes need to be smooth, but having the choice is nicer than not having it
00:47	VanessaE	only the landscape need be smoothed, buildings/structures should still be blocky
00:47	VanessaE	I wonder if I can use the same trick for homedecor's roofing materials
00:48	Peacock	probably yeah
00:48	Exio4	the other day when i was bored
00:48	Exio4	i made the stone, dirt, dirt_with_grass, and sand
00:49	Exio4	liquids, with their 'flowing version'
00:49	Exio4	made the liquid_update run at max speed and enabled finite_liquids
00:49	Exio4	my poor cpu cried :(
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00:50	VanessaE	heh
00:50	Peacock	my cpu would melt too on finite liquids lol
00:50	Peacock	*cpu's
00:50	Exio4	nah, but it was funny to see the floor flow when walking
00:51	Exio4	it isn't that intensive if you limit the liquid update
00:51	arsdragonfly	jesus it's so damn hot here these days
00:51	Peacock	where?
00:51	arsdragonfly	Shanghai
00:52	Peacock	im guessing there must be lots of smog with that heat?
00:52	arsdragonfly	I've heard ppl cook meat by putting them on the ground
00:52	Peacock	or ppl making cookies in their cars lol
00:53	Peacock	it went up to 43c two weeks ago, then it dropped to 11c at night last week and i started having back troubles lol
00:53	arsdragonfly	no smog;just hot and wet
00:53	Peacock	we even got a tornado warning which is uber-rare for this area
00:54	Peacock	definately coming out of ice age/mini ice age lol
00:54	arsdragonfly	another piece of news: a truck carring fish turned over on a highway
00:55	arsdragonfly	it gradually get cooked when being picked up
00:55	Peacock	by the time the emergency services got there they found fried catfish? :p
00:55	arsdragonfly	yup
00:56	Peacock	http://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/time-lapse-video-shows-lake-forming-at-north-pole-1.1386352
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01:09	hoodedice	So...
01:16	NekoGloop	meow
01:17	* MinetestBot	pets NekoGloop
01:17	* NekoGloop	purrs :3
01:23	Mallot1	giggity giggity!
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01:49	PilzAdam	Exio4, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102852#p102852
01:49	* PilzAdam	wins :-p
01:51	Exio4	ew!
01:51	* Exio4	throws shaders at PilzAdam
01:51	Exio4	one thing, can't exit the mainmenu with ctrl-c
01:51	PilzAdam	oh damn, its waaaaaay to late already :-/
01:52	Exio4	have the press esc, is this 'intended'?
01:52	PilzAdam	Exio4, yes
01:52	PilzAdam	bye
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02:04	* Kacey	has decided he wants to be Santa .. because Santa knows where all the naughty girls live.
02:04	VanessaE	heh
02:04	Kacey	status shuffle on facebook lol
02:05	Kacey	some people say I'm a horrible person, but it's not true! I have the heart of an innocent girl... in a jar, on my desk
02:05	VanessaE	but consider: those are all children..  santa's a fucking pedophile!
02:05	VanessaE	:)
02:06	Peacock	so are alot of priests lol
02:06	VanessaE	(ref: "Ho Ho, Fucking Ho", Kevin "Bloody" Wilson)
02:06	VanessaE	heh
02:06	Exio4	YEAH
02:06	Exio4	got it working!
02:07	VanessaE	whaty?
02:07	VanessaE	-y\
02:07	Exio4	VanessaE: bumpmapping with 1.8 :D
02:07	VanessaE	oh!?
02:07	VanessaE	what did you change>
02:07	VanessaE	?
02:07	Exio4	by http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=47581 i used an int instead of a float
02:08	Exio4	-               services->setPixelShaderConstant("normalTexture" , (irr::f32*)&layer, 1);
02:08	Exio4	+               services->setPixelShaderConstant("normalTexture" , (irr::s32*)&layer, 1);
02:08	VanessaE	one stinkin' variable?
02:08	Exio4	f -> s
02:08	Exio4	one line change
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02:08	Exio4	:P
02:08	VanessaE	gah, where is rba when you need him
02:08	Kacey	Well, I hear someone screaming for help. So I'm off to get more duct tape. Be back later.
02:08	Peacock	frying pan usually knocks them out
02:10	Exio4	VanessaE: can you try that 'change' with irrlicht 1.7.x?
02:10	Kacey	If you could put a WARNING sign on me what would you put?
02:10	VanessaE	Exio4: sure, hang on a sec
02:10	Exio4	the other way would be making it if <1.8 use f32 else s32
02:10	Exio4	i mean, a "fix"
02:10	Exio4	(more like workaround, but whatever)
02:10	VanessaE	which file is that in?
02:11	Exio4	game.cpp, line 960~
02:11	Exio4	err, 807
02:11	Exio4	http://dpaste.com/1322510/
02:11	Exio4	the .diff :P
02:11	VanessaE	got it
02:12	VanessaE	er..
02:12	VanessaE	it go boom.
02:12	Exio4	thought so
02:12	VanessaE	/home/vanessa/Minetest-related/minetest_core/src/game.cpp:810:74: error: no matching function for call to ‘irr::video::IMaterialRendererServices::setPixelShaderConstant(const char [14], irr::s32*, int)’
02:13	VanessaE	sounds like a case for a compile condional.
02:13	VanessaE	conditional*
02:13	Exio4	In v1.8 we added an int interface in IShaderConstantCallBack. Please use this interface to send a textures as int data instead of float.
02:13	Exio4	yeah
02:13	VanessaE	shouldn't be too hard to check for 1.8 vs 1.7.x?
02:14	Exio4	it isn't hard
02:14	Exio4	it is already done in the code
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02:14	bas080	minetest game UI is not lefty friendly.
02:14	VanessaE	you'd think they would have maintained some backwards compatibility though
02:16	Exio4	the excuse is: In this release we fixed many problems with material rendering (mainly in D3D drivers), thats why old methods can work not properly. More info would be helpfull.
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02:19	VanessaE	ironic really that it should affect us so weirdly, since we have no DX shaders at all in MT.
02:19	Exio4	VanessaE: https://github.com/EXio4/minetest/commit/c1d4467a132c1ee5673dcbc774421aca571d168e
02:19	Exio4	can you try it?
02:19	VanessaE	sure
02:20	VanessaE	well, it compiles anyway ;)
02:20	Exio4	hehe
02:20	Exio4	and runs? ;P
02:20	VanessaE	checking it now
02:21	Kacey	Discovering my superhero abilities, one injury at a time
02:21	VanessaE	looks fine.
02:21	Exio4	ok, thanks
02:24	* Exio4	yawns and goes to sleep
02:24	Exio4	good night
02:24	VanessaE	nooooooOOOoooOOooOOo
02:24	Exio4	wut? :P
02:25	VanessaE	heh
02:32	Kacey	Next time you're in the dressing room, yell real loud, "Where's the toilet paper?"
02:33	Peacock	thats what the newspapers are for
02:33	Peacock	just make sure not to put them back where you found t hem
02:34	Kacey	I'm pretty sure murdering someone for trying to steal your cookie counts as self defense in court. . . right?
02:35	VanessaE	probably not :P)
02:35	VanessaE	:P
02:35	Peacock	silly kacey, if there's no evidence there was no murder
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02:35	Peacock	or you could stage it like an accident
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02:36	VanessaE	oops
02:37	Peacock	just make sure you also dispose of all the witnesses :D
02:38	Kacey	lol
02:39	Kacey	I have short term memory loss. I also have short term memory loss.
02:40	Peacock	thats ok, i dont know my age lol
02:41	Peacock	27~29, have to do the math each time
02:41	Kacey	lol
02:42	Peacock	same with phone numbers and my own adress lol
02:42	Peacock	anything with numbers really
02:43	bas080	"I'm pretty sure murdering someone for trying to steal your cookie counts as self defense in court. . . right?" depends on how deep your pockets are
02:43	Peacock	i didnt know she was an american :p
02:44	Kacey	i am a guy...
02:44	Peacock	oups
02:44	Peacock	sorry :p
02:44	Kacey	common mistake lol
02:44	Peacock	for some reason i thought kacey was a girls' name lol
02:46	Peacock	though in "Under the Dome" there's a guy named Barbie lol
02:47	bas080	barb sounds manly
02:47	Peacock	i wouldn't say barb lol its always been short for Barbara lol
02:47	Kacey	under the dome is a good show... i wanna know what the hell it is made of lol
02:47	Peacock	"I don't care how disappointed Bruce will be, you must not start calling him Brenda!"
02:48	Peacock	i wont spoil the surprise but i know the book :P
02:48	bas080	Barabara means intruder
02:48	bas080	Barbaric
02:48	Peacock	also Bush Sr's wife lol
02:49	Kacey	ok, mopped the grass, mowed the floor, paid the dishes, and cleaned the bills. chores, done.
02:50	bas080	Don't forget to walk the frog
02:50	Peacock	youre supposed to lick the frog, and walk the senior citizen
02:50	Kacey	did that earlier
02:50	Kacey	status shuffle on facebook lol
02:51	Peacock	ugh, i lost interest in facebook once an estranged part of my family found me lol
02:52	Peacock	wow, there was a guy (presumably) asking for head on my server, wtf?
02:52	bas080	are they overly interested in you life all of a sudden?
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02:52	hood	mauvebic.
02:52	hood	We got trouble on the starttest server
02:52	Peacock	bas080 well its been over ten years, im certainly not lol
02:52	VanessaE	mauvebic isn't here.
02:53	Peacock	vanoss was banned dont worry
02:53	hood	O K
02:53	hood	:)
02:53	Kacey	I have an amazing idea for Nascar-- Have half the cars go one way while the other half are going the the other way!! Now that I would watch :P
02:53	hood	Lawl @KC
02:53	Peacock	for future reference, requesting sexual favours is not permitted :p
02:54	bas080	8 i understand, but 0... i just don't get nascar.
02:54	kaeza	inb4 Rule 34 server
02:54	* kaeza	hides
02:54	Peacock	its startest, so rule 47 lol
02:55	Kacey	bas080, ?
02:55	hood	Rofl Peacock
02:55	bas080	taking about the track
02:55	Kacey	ooh the turns?
02:56	bas080	yeah, i also don't understand that Spanish people type "jajaja" when laughing out loud on chat.
02:56	Peacock	jajaja = hahaha
02:57	bas080	jajaja
02:57	hood	Say, what if the Finnish read that
02:57	Peacock	that estranged part of the family i mentioned, they live in south america now :p
02:57	hood	jajaja = yayaya
02:57	hood	And for the French?
02:57	hood	hahaha = a a a
02:58	Peacock	french is the same
02:58	Peacock	though alot of other expression even i dont get lol
02:59	hood	nah, the letter h is silent
03:00	bas080	and i think people that speak english cannot pronounce the g http://translate.google.com/#nl/en/goochelen
03:01	bas080	the left word.
03:01	Peacock	germans just seem to amalgamate words until theres no room left on the papaer :P
03:01	Peacock	icelandic looks like a pain to learn
03:02	hood	goo-she-lein?
03:02	hood	with she as in 'she'perd?
03:03	Peacock	english is a very simple language, got better grades in it than my native french :P
03:03	hood	Same here.
03:04	Peacock	ugh, someone griefed all the spawn signs, definately doing newspaper mod
03:05	hood	hmm
03:06	hood	Wasnt that rotected?
03:06	hood	*Protected
03:06	Peacock	i dont bother with signs
03:06	Peacock	its the worst anyone seems able to do
03:06	hood	haha
03:07	Peacock	i had to rewrite a dozen builtin functions to deal with griefers tho lol
03:07	hood	=/
03:08	hood	Half the time I feel these are minecraft fanboys
03:08	Peacock	probably
03:08	Peacock	alot of our dumb kids go over there and do the same
03:08	Peacock	*special needs i think the term is now
03:09	Peacock	http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/34095875.jpg
03:23	hood	lawl
03:24	Peacock	someone doesn't like my texture pack :'( but its real kentucky blue grass :p
03:24	VanessaE	everyone should use HDX :)
03:25	Peacock	not everyone can afford a top of the line gfx card on their salaries :p
03:25	VanessaE	you can run the 64px size on most GPUs
03:25	Peacock	its really a matter of preference anyhow
03:25	Peacock	otherwise it would be default
03:26	hood	:)
03:27	VanessaE	heh
03:27	hood	Most GPUs
03:27	hood	Yeah, right.
03:27	hood	My bro has an i3 and minetest lags worse than my C2D
03:27	VanessaE	hood: my old laptop had radeon 9600M or some such thing, pretty low-end, circa 2003 or so.  Ran 64px HDX without issue.
03:27	hood	Both are inthell GPUs
03:27	VanessaE	lag != low fps
03:27	hood	At least you have a dedicated
03:28	hood	Both low fps and computational lag
03:28	hood	On his i3 with some HD2000
03:28	hood	Mine's some GMA and C2D
03:28	Peacock	the trouble i have with photorealistic in minetest is it looks bad on same-shape/size blocks
03:28	Peacock	any other game i prefer realism
03:28	Peacock	in MT, i cant stand too low/high rez
03:29	hood	I remember seeing something related to terrain tiling in the flightgear wiki
03:29	hood	hmm, lemme dig it u
03:29	Peacock	the ridiculously small texture packs give me nausea lol
03:29	VanessaE	heh
03:30	Peacock	im surprised no one's done 1 and 2px yet lol
03:30	Menche	i think there is a 1px
03:30	hood	There is a 3px
03:31	hood	I tried to increase fps on my bros PC with it but to no avail
03:31	Peacock	you can improve FPS by removing/disabling alot of fluff
03:31	hood	The prob with his PC is not the low fps, but the fs difference
03:31	hood	I disabled everything on his
03:31	hood	FPS difference.
03:32	Menche	a 1x1 texture pack with a slight chance of blinding you: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1407
03:32	hood	LAWL
03:32	Menche	stay away from large expanses of sand and you won't hurt your eyes too much
03:32	Peacock	jesus christ lol
03:32	hood	1 mb ram !!!
03:32	hood	rofl
03:33	Peacock	"whats the fugliest thing i can come up with?" ... and that lol
03:33	Peacock	i still remember playing commander keen on the first color screens, so i dont need that lol
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03:43	hood	EUREKA !!!
03:43	hood	http://wiki.flightgear.org/Procedural_Texturing#Pixel_color_postprocessing_2
03:45	hood	Ignore that
03:45	hood	http://wiki.flightgear.org/Procedural_Texturing
03:48	hood	The teleorting sounds are scary XC
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03:49	Peacock	lol all the sounds are from st ar trek
03:51	hood	So that's why it's called startest
03:52	* hood	implodes
03:53	hood	Digs pile of grass.
03:53	hood	]Two seconds later, it comes back
03:53	hood	FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUu
03:53	hood	Starts disappearing
03:53	hood	:-|
03:54	hood	Only a part of it disappears
03:54	hood	FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
03:55	kaeza	CK
04:03	hood	Server L....................a....................................................................g
04:04	Peacock	should be better now
04:04	kaeza	if anyone wants to test: https://github.com/kaeza/cosmorpg
04:04	kaeza	oops, wrong chan
04:05	hood	:) Kaeza
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04:31	deltib	so, does the minetest engine currently support features that would allow for maps?
04:34	ShadowNinja	deltib: Yes, partly. You can use a texture like shadowninja.minetest.net/map.png on a item or node.
04:34	ShadowNinja	I think kaeza wrote a MC-like one.
04:34	kaeza	nope
04:34	deltib	but not a live texture, accessible to lua?
04:34	ShadowNinja	Using coroutines, but it was probably a little slow.
04:34	kaeza	it was 4aiman
04:35	ShadowNinja	There is probably a LuaPNG library...
04:35	kaeza	I just tried to make it not block by using coroutines
04:35	kaeza	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4922
04:35	ShadowNinja	It is definitely posible, but it will probably be slow.
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04:37	deltib	everything I currently know about lua I learned almost exclusively from minetest_game/default
04:38	ShadowNinja	Reading existing mods is a good way to start.
04:38	deltib	I probably should have read a lua primer first though
04:39	* ShadowNinja	hasn't read any.
04:39	ShadowNinja	And yet I have written several thousand lines of Lua.
04:41	deltib	so far all I've managed to do is experiment with what's possible
04:42	kaeza	the thing is not knowing Lua
04:42	kaeza	if you have some background in programming, you can learn any language
04:42	kaeza	except Lisp; Lisp is a bitch
04:42	deltib	on that note, is there a good way of storing information with an item in a stack, so far all I've been able to figure out is to encode the data as a text string and store it in the stack meta data
04:43	deltib	I've looked at lisp..it's....quite different
04:44	kaeza	there's no other way currently if you want to store data about a single item
04:44	deltib	what are the risks of that meta data getting lost as the item is moved around?
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04:44	kaeza	that depends
04:45	ShadowNinja	deltib: If you want to store any piece of data use minetest.{de}serialize()
04:45	kaeza	if the item is a tool, or has stack_max=1, none
04:45	ShadowNinja	kaeza: I see this a lot in technic... https://github.com/4aiman/mapp/commit/44b4ff218cf59841428cab80ad2c8c66d35038dc
04:45	kaeza	if the item can be stacked, then the metadata may be copied, or deleted, or anything
04:46	kaeza	ShadowNinja, yes, because it's used in tools
04:46	deltib	yeah, I'd stick to stack_max=1 for a "programmed" item
04:46	kaeza	no more than one tool may be stored in a stack
04:47	ShadowNinja	Why? https://github.com/4aiman/mapp/commit/caa93654e0888f24ef23a3b34f048f36123ea493#L0R10
04:48	kaeza	?
04:48	ShadowNinja	kaeza: That line seems useless.
04:55	kaeza	ShadowNinja, looks like a profiler
04:55	ShadowNinja	kaeza: Yes, but why make a local copy of os.clock()?
04:56	kaeza	calling it as os.clock() is slower as storing in a local var and calling it
04:56	kaeza	yes, useless optimization :P
04:57	kaeza	given that clock() is only called at function entry and exit, it's unlikely it will have any performance hit
04:58	ShadowNinja	kaeza: And that saved how much time? Storing it localy probably took more time than that saved you. I can see the benifit if it is called a few hundred thousand times, but...
04:58	ShadowNinja	s/you//
04:59	kaeza	it's not my code :P
04:59	ShadowNinja	Yep, anyway, back to what I was doing...
04:59	kaeza	the proper way anyway would be to move the assignment outside the function
05:00	kaeza	or better yet: port to core :D
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05:53	khonkhortisan	~~~ ╔͎═͓═͙╗
05:53	khonkhortisan	~~~ ╚̨̈́═̈́﴾ ̥̂˖̫˖̥  ̂ )
05:53	khonkhortisan	that didn't turn out right on a monospace font
05:53	VanessaE	hey
05:54	khonkhortisan	hi
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06:32	reactor	Mowing.
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06:42	Miner_48er	!server linuxgaming.us
06:42	MinetestBot	Miner_48er: LinuxGaming.us | LinuxGaming.us | Clients: 5/32, 14 | Version: 0.4.6 | ping: 0.216
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08:20	reactor	Why does chat have to be that bad?
08:20	reactor	Why not just bind the console to T?
08:21	reactor	it would relieve the need to separate window
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08:34	VanessaE	bedtime.  night all
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08:40	RealBadAngel	hi all
08:41	RealBadAngel	for those who havent seen it yet: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6737
08:41	RealBadAngel	this is coming in a few days
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08:42	RealBadAngel	hi Calinou
08:43	Calinou	hi
08:43	RealBadAngel	ive posted recent screenshots of shaders, have you saw them?
08:44	Calinou	yes
08:45	Calinou	looks good with bumpmapping + parallax
08:45	RealBadAngel	now you can see the parallax mapping? :)
08:45	Calinou	saw i
08:45	Calinou	+t
08:45	RealBadAngel	wait to see while moving
08:46	RealBadAngel	*it
08:46	RealBadAngel	effect is gorund breaking
08:46	* Calinou	is doing xubuntu updates
08:46	Calinou	280MB to download, haven't done it in a while
08:46	Calinou	ground breaking? prallax mapping is done since at least ~2005
08:46	Calinou	what is more ground breaking would be tesselation :P
08:46	RealBadAngel	hehe ofc
08:47	RealBadAngel	but minetest was still in 20th century regarding gfx
08:48	Calinou	there was no real GLSL in the 20th century :P
08:48	RealBadAngel	say that to PA
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08:48	RealBadAngel	he things voxel idea is at least as old as pyramids
08:49	RealBadAngel	and thus untouchable
08:49	RealBadAngel	*thinks
08:50	RealBadAngel	so if latestst of the pharaos havent done anything to introduce nowadays shaders it should stay like this ;)
08:51	diemartin	lol
08:51	diemartin	hi RBA, Calinou
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08:51	RealBadAngel	hi diemartin
08:51	PenguinDad	hi kaeza
08:52	diemartin	hi Dad :P
08:52	diemartin	RealBadAngel, those screenies look awesome
08:52	RealBadAngel	atm i am testing all the effects that doesnt require hardware lights
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08:52	RealBadAngel	or at least those i can emulate some lighting
08:52	Calinou	hi
08:53	RealBadAngel	i do have DOF and motion blur ready too
08:53	Guest42887	Good morning all, happy Paperback Book day! :-D
08:53	diemartin	DOF?
08:54	RealBadAngel	depth of field
08:54	diemartin	ah
08:54	diemartin	<-- 3D noob
08:54	RealBadAngel	focus on things youre lookin at
08:54	reactor	why have motion blur?
08:54	reactor	your eyes do that for you already
08:54	RealBadAngel	exactly how your eyes work
08:54	Calinou	motion blur makes things feel smoother; some people like it; some don't
08:54	reactor	why add it?
08:55	Calinou	it's fine to have it, if it's not on by default
08:55	diemartin	ah I see, so objects not "in focus" get blurred
08:55	Calinou	TF2 motion blur is annoying IMO :P
08:55	reactor	your eyes already do motion blur!
08:55	RealBadAngel	because its easy, because we can
08:55	RealBadAngel	and 3rd its an option
08:55	reactor	but I agree your eyes don't do DOF to monitor
08:55	reactor	so DOf is reasonable
08:55	reactor	DOF*
08:56	RealBadAngel	slight motion blur is also nice
08:56	RealBadAngel	especially when fast moving
08:56	diemartin	of course
08:56	diemartin	also, FOV increase while running :3
08:56	diemartin	(I have it implemented locally :P)
08:57	RealBadAngel	fov changes should be also made
08:57	RealBadAngel	there were a commit bout it before
08:57	incentive	Ever since finding my timezone map I can know when people are most likely asleep or awake. Sweden is awake, part of the USA is asleep :D Missouri area is asleep :)
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08:57	RealBadAngel	about zoom
08:58	diemartin	gameplay is good, but eye candy brings some freshness to the game
08:58	Calinou	back, just did xubuntu updates
08:58	Calinou	I now have chromium 28 :D
08:58	diemartin	whenever I get bored, I start poking around the conf and sources to do silly stuff :P
08:58	RealBadAngel	eye candies have two possible effects
08:59	RealBadAngel	keep old players into
08:59	RealBadAngel	and attract new ones
09:00	RealBadAngel	in first case player says, damn my game keep lookin better and better
09:00	RealBadAngel	in second, shit im gonna play it, it looks awesome
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09:01	RealBadAngel	thrid option are mentioned pharaos and pyramid builders.
09:01	diemartin	feck no
09:01	reactor	is there a way to make server textures?
09:01	* JamesTait	just spent 15 minutes showing his 6-year-old how to git clone PilzAdam's nether mod.
09:01	diemartin	reactor, server textures?
09:01	reactor	Do I just place them in serverdir/textures/all?
09:02	RealBadAngel	reactor, no
09:02	reactor	yes, as in, custom textures server-wide
09:02	reactor	at all?
09:02	reactor	or should I use the mod framework?
09:02	RealBadAngel	you shall replace textures  in every mod your server serves
09:02	RealBadAngel	so no one universal folder like on client side
09:03	diemartin	.-.
09:03	reactor	mk
09:03	RealBadAngel	you have to replace textures in every /textures folder of each mod
09:03	reactor	yep
09:04	RealBadAngel	its kinda hard to maintain
09:04	diemartin	mkdir -p dummymod/textures; for file in `find . -name '*.png'`; do mv "$file" dummymod/textures/; done touch dummymod/init.lua
09:04	reactor	good
09:05	diemartin	(that's also useful if you want to create a texturepack)
09:05	RealBadAngel	but i think something like /textures/all for server shall also be implemented
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09:06	reactor	diemartin: I see...
09:06	reactor	the server starts
09:07	reactor	but doesn't seem to work
09:07	reactor	the textures don't*
09:07	diemartin	replace the textures in dummymod/textures/ with your own version
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09:08	diemartin	(with the same filenames as the originals)
09:08	RealBadAngel	thats a no go
09:08	RealBadAngel	it shall not be a move
09:08	RealBadAngel	you can update mods
09:09	RealBadAngel	theres a defined overriding folder for server needed
09:09	RealBadAngel	just like for client
09:09	diemartin	it's harder to keep track of textures in 164218 dirs
09:09	diemartin	but you have a point
09:09	reactor	a while ago I remember adding a texture pack in mods
09:09	reactor	which replaced textures
09:10	RealBadAngel	pain in the ass on server side
09:10	RealBadAngel	imho such folder could be stored in world folder
09:11	RealBadAngel	so user deciedes what textures to use
09:12	RealBadAngel	create a world
09:12	RealBadAngel	copy textures into it
09:12	PenguinDad	!server players:most
09:12	MinetestBot	PenguinDad: Clip Minetest server | 217.8.90.18:30001 | Clients: 7/12, 9 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.247
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09:13	reactor	mk
09:14	RealBadAngel	settings: if not defined: look in world folder for /textures/all
09:14	RealBadAngel	if defined: look for specific path
09:14	RealBadAngel	if both failed use old mods way
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09:23	reactor	is there a way to freeze time?
09:24	nalkri	Cover your clocks in LNâ‚‚
09:24	RealBadAngel	push and hold reset button
09:25	reactor	in the map, I mean,
09:25	reactor	so that I don't have to reset it every minute if I'm drawing something
09:25	reactor	it's a nuisance to have time going in creative
09:26	Calinou	/set time_speed 0
09:26	Calinou	/set time_speed 72
09:27	nalkri	Oh, that could be a basic seasons hack
09:27	nalkri	Just change the speed at sunrise and sunset
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09:28	MasterBot	Hello
09:30	reactor	hell.o
09:30	reactor	Calinou: thank you
09:31	diemartin	hell.o? are you providing object files?
09:31	reactor	I'm not used to the fact the config contains more options than in Minecraft.
09:31	diemartin	you should say hell.cpp
09:31	reactor	:D
09:31	reactor	no
09:31	reactor	hell.o
09:31	reactor	or
09:31	reactor	well yes
09:32	reactor	cxx -ohell.o hell.cpp -lm -llapack -lblas
09:33	diemartin	-lm links Minetest's own true random number generator (LandMine)
09:33	Calinou	hell.h
09:33	VanessaE	sigh, can't sleep
09:33	diemartin	mornings Vadtec
09:33	diemartin	VanessaE, ^
09:33	diemartin	tab complete phail :P
09:35	reactor	Why doesn't minetest window have WM_CLASS?
09:35	reactor	I can't add it to floating quirks in my WM, and I need to toggle it manually everytime.
09:37	VanessaE	good morning
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09:41	PenguinDad	Hello TheLastProject
09:41	TheLastProject	Hi
09:43	VanessaE	he speaks! :)
09:43	Calinou	hi
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09:57	MasterBot	I need help with some images
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09:59	Greenmy	hi
09:59	Greenmy	i'm italian
10:00	Greenmy	can someone give me a hand to fill minetest fedora?
10:02	Calinou	Greenmy: fill?
10:02	Calinou	you mean install?
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10:03	Calinou	you can compile it
10:03	Calinou	but well, this is fedora, you have to find the dependency names yourself
10:03	Greenmy	sorry bad enghlish
10:04	Greenmy	I can give you the output?
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10:05	Calinou	http://paste.ubuntu.com
10:05	Calinou	pastebin it
10:05	GNADev|zRokh	aye doods
10:05	GNADev|zRokh	how ya been?!
10:05	Greenmy	ok, one moment
10:06	Greenmy	http://paste.ubuntu.com/5928444/
10:07	Calinou	yes, you have missing depdencies
10:07	Calinou	dependencies*
10:07	Calinou	you install them using "yum"
10:07	Greenmy	tells me that irrlicht and others that are already installed
10:08	Calinou	you need to install the development libraries
10:08	Calinou	(usually suffixed with -dev)
10:08	Greenmy	as libvorbis-dev?
10:09	PenguinDad	or devel
10:09	Greenmy	one moment
10:09	PenguinDad	Greenmy yes
10:09	Greenmy	devel o dev?
10:09	Calinou	depends
10:10	GNADev|zRokh	:/ nobody said hi to me back... :/
10:10	Greenmy	I try to install
10:14	nalkri	Hi GNADev|zRokh
10:14	GNADev|zRokh	yay, hi nalkri!
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10:16	GNADev|zRokh	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99796#p99796
10:16	GNADev|zRokh	vote!
10:16	GNADev|zRokh	.-.
10:17	GNADev|zRokh	k bye biggums, see ya in a week .-.
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10:19	diemartin	dafuq
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10:22	VanessaE	there, show that damn thing who's boss :-)
10:23	kaeza	oh no she's back!
10:23	kaeza	everyone hide!
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10:23	kaeza	what did you break this time V? :P
10:24	VanessaE	nothing.  a routine update in debian moved most /etc/fonts/conf.avail files over to /usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail, which broke my subpixel antialiasing filter.
10:25	VanessaE	took a few mins to sort it out
10:25	* Calinou	did xubuntu updates, hard to do an hard-reboot because system hung when rebooting the first time ._.
10:25	Calinou	but it works fine now
10:26	kaeza	ah you gotta love debian
10:26	kaeza	or rather linux in general
10:27	VanessaE	huh.  is agetty still needed for Ctrl-Alt-Fx virtual consoles to work?
10:28	kaeza	I still don't understand all that crap about what goes into /usr, what into /usr/local, /bin, /sbin, /opt, /var...
10:28	Calinou	/bin: essential binaries, /usr/bin: less essential binaries
10:28	Calinou	/opt: your stuff (empty by default)
10:28	Calinou	/usr/local/bin: stuff installed by make install and such
10:29	Calinou	/sbin: binaries run as root
10:29	kaeza	._. still a bit confusing, and not all distros follow that
10:30	Calinou	like fedora :P
10:30	Calinou	they have /lib32, /lib64 and that stuff
10:30	kaeza	(Puppy for example likes to put DE-related stuff in /usr/local
10:30	kaeza	)
10:31	kaeza	while 'buntu puts it in /usr
10:31	PenguinDad	https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/193 <- Shall this be merged?
10:31	kaeza	Puppy also puts normal programs into /usr/bin
10:31	kaeza	err... /usr/sbin
10:32	kaeza	(you always run as root by default on Puppy anyway)
10:33	PenguinDad	kaeza That's bad.
10:34	kaeza	It's meant to be "easy" for Linux newbies
10:34	PenguinDad	and easy for hackers :P
10:34	kaeza	no need to deal with multiple users, no need to switch to "Administrator" account, etc
10:35	kaeza	just like in Win9X :P
10:36	kaeza	but yes, "rm -fr /" does what you expect there :P
10:37	reactor	is default_grass_footstep used?
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10:38	kaeza	nope
10:38	reactor	good
10:39	VanessaE	brb
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10:39	kaeza	meanwhile: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202013-06-29%2003%3A08%3A41.jpg
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10:41	Exio4	i prefer the debian way for managing multlib system
10:42	PenguinDad	Exio4: yeah debians way is very cool
10:43	thexyz	kaeza: doesn't work what am i doing wrong?
10:43	reactor	anyone got minecraft handy?
10:43	thexyz	kaeza: [rootdev ~]# rm -fr /
10:43	thexyz	rm: it is dangerous to operate recursively on ‘/’
10:43	thexyz	rm: use --no-preserve-root to override this failsafe
10:43	reactor	can you upload me the default textures in a .tar?
10:44	PenguinDad	thexyz: rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
10:45	reactor	puppy linux is a cripple
10:45	reactor	Use a real OS.
10:45	thexyz	PenguinDad: thanks, it works now
10:45	PenguinDad	xD
10:45	Exio4	reactor: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/751
10:46	reactor	Cool.
10:47	Exio4	fwiw, did anyone told RBA about the "1.8 irrlicht fix"?
10:47	reactor	Exio4: is it gonna be included in the next release?
10:47	reactor	what is the fix?
10:48	Exio4	https://github.com/EXio4/minetest/commit/c1d4467a132c1ee5673dcbc774421aca571d168e
10:48	Exio4	it is shader(s) stuff
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10:49	Exio4	the patch is not likely to get merged in the next release because "lacks" in copy-paste related stuff
10:49	reactor	ah
10:49	reactor	but there's no copypaste in the default either
10:50	reactor	Exio4: may I include it in the package I'm preparing for NetBSD?
10:51	Exio4	there isn't in linux, but works under windows, that is
10:52	Exio4	i don't mind, if you have "rebase problems", tell me
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10:56	VanessaE	there, and now my consoles work again :-)
10:56	VanessaE	(that time it was my fault)
11:02	reactor	Exio4: mk
11:04	reactor	Exio4: where can I see diffs between it and minetest release 0.4.7?
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11:05	MasterBot	!up minetest.org
11:06	MinetestBot	minetest.org:30000 seems to be down
11:06	MasterBot	Grr!
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11:21	reactor	What is "ticking entity" in Minecraft?
11:22	PilzAdam	Hello everyone!
11:22	reactor	Is the name related to the so-called "nerve tics"?
11:22	Calinou	no
11:22	Calinou	minecraft runs at 20 TPS
11:23	Calinou	I have no idea what a ticking entity does... search engines are your friend
11:25	PenguinDad	Hi PilzAdam, what do you think about my pull request? -> https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/193
11:27	PilzAdam	PenguinDad, I dont like it
11:27	PilzAdam	I dont like the glasslike_framed drawtype at all
11:27	kaeza	wait wait wait
11:28	PilzAdam	this can be easily dont as a external mod
11:28	kaeza	that commit is not... right
11:28	Calinou	suddenly: new_style_leaves and new_style_water
11:28	Calinou	inb4 both are removed
11:28	Calinou	oh, that setting is server-side
11:28	Calinou	O_o
11:28	kaeza	yup
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11:29	PenguinDad	PilzAdam: I know that it's not the best drawtype
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11:36	VanessaE	there, and now my console font is actually readable (terminus bold 22x11 on a 1280x1024 framebuffer) :P
11:36	VanessaE	good thing I'm keeping a record of all these machinations.
11:37	PilzAdam	VanessaE, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102891#p102891
11:38	Calinou	>2013 >consoles
11:39	Calinou	not only nvidia doesn't support native resolution consoles, I never use these.
11:39	Calinou	:P
11:39	Exio4	reactor: add diff to commit links
11:39	VanessaE	PilzAdam: deleted and banned.
11:39	VanessaE	Calinou: I always like to have a regular console to fall back to if something just goes wonky
11:40	thexyz	VanessaE: what was it?
11:40	reactor	Exio4: ?!
11:40	reactor	man, I only need unified diff files
11:40	VanessaE	thexyz: eh?
11:40	Exio4	http://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/<number>.diff
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11:41	VanessaE	oh, three totally offtopic, gibberish posts with a link to some damn gold thing in the signature.  Seen it before.
11:41	webdesigner97	peacock?
11:41	PilzAdam	Exio4, .patch is better, then you can use  git am  to preserve the author
11:42	Exio4	ah
11:42	Exio4	is it .patch?
11:42	Exio4	or does .diff work? :P
11:43	reactor	?!
11:43	reactor	well, pkgsrc uses diff -u
11:43	reactor	That's why I would like it if you sent them to me in that format, Exio4
11:44	reactor	I'm fixing some irrlicht now, not much but I have to wait a lot while it compiles
11:44	Exio4	i'm not at home right now, but will in 5 hours
11:44	reactor	mkay
11:44	reactor	I'll wait till then
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12:13	Semilevel	Is there any way to rerender the lighting? It now looks like this http://i.imgur.com/LXxpD6G.jpg after I burned down some trees.
12:13	VanessaE	use worldedit's "fixlight" command.
12:14	VanessaE	just select an area big enough to encompass the entire zone with the bad lighting (fly to one corner, //pos1, fly to the other corner, //pos2), then do //fixlight
12:14	VanessaE	most of the time, that'll fix it
12:14	VanessaE	if that doesn't work, try again at a higher altitude.
12:15	Semilevel	Ah, thanks.
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12:15	VanessaE	if that still doesn't work, spawn a big slab of sand or gravel 1 node thick, as wide and long as the bad lighting, make it fall, then select the area with the fallen gravel/sand and clean it up with //replace gravel air
12:19	incentive	Is there any minetest server that you know of that has a teamspeak3/mumble server or chatroom? Wazuclan once had a teamspeak one but as I've read they no longer host any minetest server.
12:20	VanessaE	I don't know of any
12:20	Calinou	you can go to a public mumble
12:20	VanessaE	when did wazuclan shut down?  I thought I'd seen that one in the server list just yesterday
12:20	Calinou	lots of them let you cteate channels
12:21	Calinou	VanessaE: they renamed to LINUXGAMING.US
12:23	incentive	I've opened a channel on one.
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12:23	incentive	regardless, I was asking if there was any teamspeak server or a mumble server, and it seems there is none.
12:23	Calinou	nope
12:23	incentive	maybe the community doesn't need one :D
12:24	reactor	so
12:24	reactor	wanna become a package maintainer for NetBSD, anyone?
12:24	Calinou	nope.avi
12:24	reactor	Meh.
12:24	incentive	reactor, to create a minetest package for that system?
12:24	reactor	yes, I've already done it
12:25	reactor	I'm polishing it,then gonna send it to pkgsrc
12:25	incentive	reactor, is it linked to from the site also?
12:25	reactor	but I don't think I have enough knowledge/time to fix it later if it breaks
12:25	reactor	incentive: I haven't yet sent it
12:25	reactor	I'm preparing it, it'll be ready in a week or so
12:30	Calinou	minetest reached 3000 commits
12:31	PilzAdam	I just benchmarked vmanip vs. get_node for reading only and it seems that vmanip turns out useful for over 700 nodes with a speedup of 10ms (+-5)
12:33	VanessaE	not m\uch of a change
12:33	VanessaE	much*
12:37	VanessaE	(but every little bit helps)
12:37	VanessaE	speaking of little bits, I think I'll try to get a little bit of sleep..
12:37	VanessaE	bbl
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12:57	reactor	is it me or door textures are wrongly placed?
13:01	Exio4	http://r.xeonet.es:1050/listen.pls
13:01	Exio4	rrr
13:01	Exio4	http://dev.minetest.net/Engine_documentation
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13:17	reactor	Why do I have to rebuilt Minetest every time I change Irrlicht to see what I've done?
13:17	reactor	Is is pottible to link dynamically?
13:18	reactor	s/tt/ss/
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13:22	MasterBot	HI
13:22	MasterBot	Any mods that switch player texture by command
13:22	MasterBot	?
13:22	MasterBot	Also best crafting guide as block?
13:22	MasterBot	Which servers dont use inventory plus?
13:23	reactor	?
13:23	MasterBot	'?'?
13:25	kaeza	should be
13:26	kaeza	maybe you are building Irrlicht as a static library?
13:26	reactor	I don't know
13:26	reactor	how do I know?
13:27	kaeza	well, if you have libIrrlicht.a, then it's a static lib I guess
13:27	kaeza	dunno
13:28	kaeza	never tried compiling Irr myself
13:28	PilzAdam	ehm
13:28	PilzAdam	MasterBot, what do you do here?
13:28	reactor	kaeza: libIrrlicht.a libIrrlicht.so
13:29	reactor	.so is dynamic, right?
13:29	MasterBot	Sit in a chair drinking and eating
13:29	kaeza	yes
13:30	kaeza	then Minetest may be using the .a instead of the .so
13:30	MasterBot	PilzAdam: If you want me to use another nick then unban one of then
13:30	MasterBot	*m
13:30	kaeza	I don't recall which option you have to use for CMake to always use dylibs
13:31	kaeza	lol is markv spamming again?
13:32	MasterBot	Fuck you.
13:32	kaeza	aww
13:32	kaeza	and I just unignored you <3
13:32	* MasterBot	bites kaeza
13:34	reactor	-dynamic?
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13:58	hoodedice	3 hours to Starttest server...
14:05	hoodedice	*Yawn*
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14:20	Jordach	hey all
14:22	PenguinDad	Hi Jordach
14:25	Calinou	hi
14:29	hoodedice	yo
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14:33	Jordach	Calinou, movable eyes using bones
14:33	Jordach	in other news: OpenShot for windows coming late autumn
14:34	Calinou	use a VM :D
14:35	Jordach	Calinou, http://i.imgur.com/25hvlRx.png
14:36	Jordach	can i hear oh sweet jesus? (i know i need to be able to scale the pupils; eg scared expressions)
14:39	hoodedice	lol
14:40	hoodedice	I don't think we need that for now
14:40	Jordach	hoodedice, this is for 3d animations, not ingame
14:40	hoodedice	Oh, for that movie you're making...?
14:40	* Jordach	nods
14:41	hoodedice	Three hours to startest
14:41	hoodedice	:/
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14:44	hoodedice	UP !
14:44	Calinou	DOWN ¡
14:45	hoodedice	X)
14:45	PenguinDad	!server players:most
14:45	MinetestBot	PenguinDad: LandRush Server | 205.185.115.160:31000 | Clients: 12/15, 14 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.306
14:46	Jordach	^,^,V,V,<,>,<,>,B,A, START!
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14:51	PenguinDad	LandRush Server: Access denied reason too many users.
14:51	hoodedice	BUG : Startest, everything is grey
14:53	Calinou	>too many users
14:53	Calinou	never got this error in minetest :D
14:53	proller	its good error
14:53	hoodedice	good error?
14:54	proller	best error for minetest
14:54	Jordach	possible*
14:55	hoodedice	5 players is a lot...
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14:55	webdesigner97	hi again
14:55	Calinou	hoodedice: suddenly: hivemc.eu
14:55	Calinou	8500 player MC server
14:56	hoodedice	Dafudge?
14:56	hoodedice	That's MC
14:56	hoodedice	This is MT
14:56	hoodedice	(beta)
14:56	webdesigner97	while playing around with my desktop, I found out that the minetest icon doesn't support all icon sizes (e.g. 256px). So I made an icon file with all icon sizes:
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14:57	hoodedice	*Down*
14:57	Calinou	or just use SVGs
14:57	Calinou	hoodedice: MT isn't beta
14:57	hoodedice	(alpha)
14:57	webdesigner97	https://www.dropbox.com/s/zull09urvxgpva3/minetest.ico
14:58	Calinou	not alpha
14:58	Calinou	>.ico
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14:58	hoodedice	(testing)
14:58	hoodedice	(indev)
14:58	Calinou	no
14:58	NekoGloop	(broken as hell)
14:58	Calinou	no
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14:59	MasterBot	Hi
14:59	webdesigner97	And here are its formats: http://im.bilderkiste.org/6137519632536/sizes.PNG
14:59	webdesigner97	hi
14:59	hoodedice	OH I KNOW!
14:59	MasterBot	Is there Am MTEdit?
14:59	hoodedice	(0.4.7)
14:59	hoodedice	:P
14:59	Calinou	MasterBot: no
14:59	Calinou	why?
14:59	MasterBot	MCedit lags like hell
14:59	MasterBot	MTedit would be simpler because minetest uses a lighter 3d engine
14:59	Calinou	lag != low fps
14:59	Calinou	no
15:00	Calinou	MCedit doesn't even use MC rendering code
15:00	MasterBot	I mean; Dont Use Python!
15:00	MasterBot	Minetest has a more intelligent community :P
15:00	webdesigner97	:D
15:00	hoodedice	-.-
15:00	MasterBot	managed to port mtmapper
15:00	hoodedice	[citation needed]
15:02	kahrl	hoodedice: minecraft has a much larger community. since most people have negative intelligence, this implies that minecraft's community is less intelligent
15:02	kahrl	[original research]
15:02	MasterBot	+1
15:03	bas080	quality vs quantity
15:03	hoodedice	Lawl
15:05	Jordach	http://i.imgur.com/kFqUpXu.png
15:05	Jordach	i thought something was missing
15:05	hoodedice	Sam's like 'wut'?
15:06	Calinou	sam looking at me playing TF2 as spy
15:06	PenguinDad	Does Sam use drugs?
15:07	Jordach	PenguinDad, Calinou, hoodedice: the bones are not set on rest postion yet, hold on
15:08	Jordach	did you know; the model im using isnt stu's player model; i used Taoki[laptop]'s as a base
15:08	PilzAdam	*ass
15:08	PilzAdam	:-p
15:09	hoodedice	?
15:09	PilzAdam	hoodedice, just my usual attempt to be funny
15:10	Jordach	didnt work; like Calinou's sapper
15:11	NekoGloop	except for the fact that you only described yourself
15:11	Jordach	</burn>
15:11	Jordach	brb
15:11	hoodedice	rofl
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15:19	bas080	I am requesting a topic move to Game section https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6636
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15:20	Jordach	bas080, checking then moving
15:20	Jordach	hello KikaRz
15:20	bas080	Jordach, ty
15:21	Jordach	i found a post error, correcting for you
15:22	PilzAdam	Jordach, I do not want that you edit any of my posts if I havent violated the forum rules
15:22	Jordach	PilzAdam, i wouldnt touch your posts with a X11 pointer
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15:23	Jordach	bas080, the GitHub link didn't help as i couldnt find "download"
15:23	bas080	Jordach, on it
15:24	PilzAdam	Jordach, at the right
15:24	Jordach	PilzAdam, i meant Download / GitHub subheading
15:25	bas080	Jordach, download link and github link are now working
15:26	Jordach	bas080, i realised i binned the old link D:
15:26	bas080	I don't mind having a different link
15:26	Jordach	https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?id=15
15:27	Jordach	OCD is now moved :)
15:27	bas080	Jordach, very nice.
15:29	PenguinDad	Can this be moved into mod releases? -> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6649
15:29	Peacock	deer lord, we have an *active* moderator :-)
15:29	Peacock	between the lot we had i think only V and calinou were still active :P
15:30	Peacock	(and sfan)
15:31	Peacock	theres a ton of mods in /general with several thousand views that could prolly use a move :-)
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15:32	NekoGloop	except herpderp non-open licenses can't be in mod releases
15:32	Peacock	along with all my old mod threads where the img and dl links were broken, those can go :p
15:32	Peacock	paramats' mods arent oss?
15:32	VanessaE	hi all.
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15:34	reactor	why the hell are door textures displaced?!
15:34	Peacock	ask the deer lord (and his wise antlers)
15:34	Calinou	ask your CPU
15:34	Peacock	lol
15:34	Peacock	were helpful today, now servin #8
15:39	PenguinDad	Ask Octobi Wan Catnobi :P
15:40	Jordach	a proper render: http://i.imgur.com/olPmeNO.png
15:40	Jordach	compare that to Pavel's Sam model
15:41	proller	after using hardcore mese tnt ?
15:42	PenguinDad	Jordach: looks good
15:43	Jordach	PenguinDad, I just need to make a working mouth
15:44	marktraceur	reactor: Can you take a screenshot of what you're seeing that you don't expect?
15:48	VanessaE	bbl
15:48	reactor	?
15:48	reactor	marktraceur: yes
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15:52	NekoGloop	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzp_T_Zsyt4
15:53	PilzAdam	!title
15:53	MinetestBot	PilzAdam: [波音リツキレ音源 x 巡音ルカ] The Happiness and Peace of Mind Committee - YouTube
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15:54	reactor	marktraceur: the link is not permanent
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15:54	marktraceur	reactor: OK, what part of that is unexpected?
15:56	reactor	marktraceur: the textures
15:56	reactor	they're shifted by one-two pixels
15:56	reactor	the door
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15:57	marktraceur	reactor: I see the door, but I don't know what you mean by shifted
15:57	reactor	look at the doors placed in different directions
15:57	marktraceur	Aha.
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15:58	reactor	some dirctions work corretly, some not
15:59	marktraceur	reactor: I would suggest uploading that image to somewhere less temporary like imgur.com or mg.viewskew.com, then report a bug
16:00	reactor	Well, I'm working on another bug already.
16:00	PilzAdam	reactor, can you show me the screenshot?
16:02	Exio4	hi
16:03	KikaRz	What's wrong here? https://paste.moepl.eu/view/89bdd891
16:03	PilzAdam	KikaRz, what language is that?
16:03	KikaRz	LUA
16:04	Jordach	Lua*
16:04	PilzAdam	what do you want to print?
16:04	KikaRz	â—‹_â—‹
16:05	KikaRz	thirdvar
16:05	emerge	O_o
16:06	PilzAdam	http://pastebin.com/jw6EjWP5
16:06	emerge	Change print{"thirdvar"}, into print(var["thirdvar"]),
16:06	PilzAdam	emerge, wrong
16:06	emerge	Ah
16:06	PilzAdam	emerge, that would only work in a single dimensional table (like in my pastebin)
16:07	emerge	*print(vars["thirdvar"]),
16:07	PilzAdam	KikaRz, if you want to keep your table structure then  print(vars[3][2])
16:07	KikaRz	don't confuse me more plz
16:07	emerge	Sorry.
16:08	KikaRz	PilzAdam, not that
16:08	Exio4	lol
16:08	KikaRz	I wanted first+second
16:09	PilzAdam	KikaRz, basically your table structure is wrong; you use integers as index, but it seems like you want to use strings
16:09	KikaRz	can you send me that?
16:09	PilzAdam	<PilzAdam> http://pastebin.com/jw6EjWP5
16:10	KikaRz	but I dont want already fused
16:10	KikaRz	I want first+second
16:11	KikaRz	if I change first var, I dont want to change third
16:11	PilzAdam	http://pastebin.com/QUURrL8S
16:12	KikaRz	the .. adds first to second?
16:13	PilzAdam	it appends the second string to the first one
16:13	KikaRz	ok
16:14	PilzAdam	you could also do  vars.first .. " " .. vars.second  , vars.third would be "foo bar" then
16:14	KikaRz	ok ok
16:15	KikaRz	Thxs.
16:15	KikaRz	How I execute this ?
16:16	PilzAdam	in Minetest or in normal Lua interpreter?
16:16	KikaRz	Lua interpreter
16:16	PilzAdam	what OS?
16:17	emerge	Anyway, is there a way to register flowing liquid with drawtype set to liquid and not to crash minetest?
16:17	KikaRz	windows.
16:17	PilzAdam	emerge, see default mod
16:18	emerge	PilzAdam, there no such thing there.
16:18	PilzAdam	KikaRz, ummm.... whats the equivalent of "lua << yourfile.lua" in windows cmd?
16:18	KikaRz	dunno.
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16:19	PilzAdam	emerge, well, https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/nodes.lua#L411
16:19	KikaRz	C:\users\lol\> lua << file.lua
16:19	PilzAdam	KikaRz, maybe  lua yourfile.lua  works
16:19	KikaRz	<< was expected at this time.
16:19	KikaRz	'lua' is not recognized as an internal or external command.
16:20	emerge	For example, if you combine drawtype = "source" and liquidtype = "liquid", minetest will crash.
16:20	emerge	PilzAdam, ^
16:20	PilzAdam	emerge, there is no thing likie "liquidtype = "liquid"", the only liquidtypes that are availible are "none", "flowing" and "source"
16:20	PilzAdam	*like
16:21	PilzAdam	KikaRz, you have to install Lua first, of course
16:21	KikaRz	link?
16:21	emerge	I mean "flowing".
16:21	KikaRz	oh, found
16:21	KikaRz	how to install it?
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16:22	MasterBot	!up marktwain.no-ip.org
16:22	MinetestBot	marktwain.no-ip.org:30000 seems to be down
16:23	Exio4	KikaRz: you shouldn't be asking that stuff if you want to learn lua
16:23	emerge	KikaRz, http://code.google.com/p/luaforwindows/downloads/list
16:23	KikaRz	done
16:24	KikaRz	Exio4 found the third point of my objective
16:24	MasterBot	!up marktwain.sytes.net
16:24	MinetestBot	marktwain.sytes.net:30000 is up (384ms)
16:25	MasterBot	there we go...
16:25	MasterBot	2GB map is definitely good
16:31	Exio4	http://opensource.com/law/13/7/fantec-german-foss-compliance
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16:31	oxenfreedan	hi everyone
16:31	PilzAdam	hey oxenfreedan
16:32	oxenfreedan	did you look up any pics of cyro linux
16:32	oxenfreedan	cylon*
16:34	oxenfreedan	btw what is todays theme?
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16:44	hoodedice	back
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16:45	NekoGloop	today's theme is kittens
16:46	Peacock	i love kitchens, and cheap double-glazing
16:46	Peacock	my new place has an island counter (as opposed to the counter here which is smaller than an MT node lol)
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16:47	DanDuncombe	VanessaE, have you updated so that blue hovercrafts don't use the green camo texture?
16:47	hoodedice	Kittens?
16:47	NekoGloop	kittens~
16:47	hoodedice	nyan.cat
16:48	hoodedice	NYANANYNANANYANANYANANAYNANAYYANNANA Nya nya
16:48	* NekoGloop	puts a kitten on hoodedice's head
16:48	* Calinou	removes kitten, puts pony
16:48	DanDuncombe	I found my first nyan cat today, with 11 rainbows above a lava pool.
16:49	* NekoGloop	shoots the pony with a harpoon
16:50	PilzAdam	the pony blocks it with her hoof
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16:51	Jordach	http://24.media.tumblr.com/50681a805561cd8fd0e0391a9de24467/tumblr_menghmmr3I1qbvaf3o1_500.gif
16:51	* PenguinDad	snipes the pony with a rifle.
16:52	NekoGloop	Oi, that's my rifle.
16:52	NekoGloop	I have to move my weapons bunker now
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16:54	webdesigner97	hi
16:55	Peacock	!server:players
16:55	Peacock	how does that work again?
16:56	emerge	PilzAdam, again with drawtypes. This code, for instance, wouldn't work: http://pastebin.com/F14YHDVZ
16:56	NekoGloop	!help
16:56	MinetestBot	https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
16:56	PilzAdam	!server players:most
16:56	MinetestBot	PilzAdam: Startest | 205.236.123.109 | Clients: 14/100, 14 | Version: 0.4.6 | ping: 0.223
16:56	hoodedice	Adam in Startest YAAAAAAAAAAAAYyy
16:56	Peacock	im going to need more admins lol
16:56	NekoGloop	There's player caps now?
16:57	Jordach	NekoGloop, it's the master server being a dick
16:57	PilzAdam	hoodedice, hm?
16:57	Peacock	not the same adam i tihnk :P
16:57	PilzAdam	emerge, yes, the drawtpye "liquid" only works if liquidtype is "source"
16:57	Peacock	PilzAdam came on as PilzAdam not adam
16:57	PilzAdam	I am not on any MT server currently
16:58	hoodedice	hmm
16:58	emerge	PilzAdam, thank you then.
16:58	hoodedice	Ya, but PilzAdam is a long name to type, what with all the capital P and A
16:58	PilzAdam	emerge, and "flowingliquid" only works if liquidtype is "flowing"
16:58	Peacock	i got people speaking spanish, brazilian and german lol
16:59	emerge	PilzAdam, btw, is this considered as a bug?
16:59	hoodedice	:)
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16:59	hoodedice	I'll speak french then :P
16:59	PilzAdam	emerge, no, its an assertion() in the code
16:59	emerge	PilzAdam, what does this mean&
16:59	PilzAdam	Peacock, you do realise that about 1/3 of the Minetest community is german?
16:59	emerge	*?
17:00	hoodedice	(Including PilzAdam)
17:00	hoodedice	Server is la....gg....ing
17:00	reactor	Why does Minetest have no /who command?
17:00	PilzAdam	emerge, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assertion_%28computing%29
17:00	reactor	How do I see who is connected?
17:01	NekoGloop	/list
17:01	Peacock	of course what i mean is i cant understand what most of them say/ask me lol
17:01	NekoGloop	oh, wait, /status
17:01	NekoGloop	wrong game.
17:01	PilzAdam	emerge, basically the programmer knows that weird bugs would happen if the condition is false, thus he properly shuts down the program to avoid bugs
17:03	emerge	PilzAdam, and how does that connects with liquids?
17:03	NekoGloop	because they can't code right
17:03	emerge	:3
17:03	PilzAdam	emerge, there is an  assert(liquidtype == LIQUID_FLOWING)  if you use the drawtype "flowingliquid"
17:04	emerge	Ok…
17:05	emerge	PilzAdam, so, this might work in future releases?
17:06	PilzAdam	ehm
17:06	NekoGloop	Now, why can't we have a liquid that doesn't flow?
17:06	NekoGloop	Or, liquid physics in non-liquid blocks
17:07	PilzAdam	NekoGloop, liquid_range = 0  currently spawns flowingliquids arround the source, that could be patched away so you could have non-flowing liquids
17:07	emerge	NekoGloop, second will look cool with dirt.
17:07	NekoGloop	I was thinking quicksand, yes.
17:08	emerge	yeah...
17:10	emerge	But there is a crutch a way to disable liquid physics. Simply don't write liquid_alternative_flowing.
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17:18	DanDuncombe	HY GIYS!
17:18	Jordach	hey DanDuncombe
17:18	Calinou	hi
17:18	DanDuncombe	Anyone got any mod improvement ideas for any ofmy mods?
17:19	Jordach	^ someone who doesnt abandon mods gets my vote
17:19	Jordach	DanDuncombe, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102908#p102908
17:19	DanDuncombe	Some are pointless like my metal light mod.
17:20	DanDuncombe	Aw! Why is he so sad?
17:20	Jordach	DanDuncombe, this is how powerful my custom Sam II model is
17:20	DanDuncombe	You should make a gamemode.
17:20	Jordach	i'm finishing the mouth, eg teeth, lips etc
17:21	Jordach	the one seen sticking out is a placeholder
17:21	DanDuncombe	Does anyone know how to improve my camo mod? Don't say anything to do with turrets.
17:22	hoodedice	*Yawn* Startest is too laggy. Much be due to distance
17:22	hoodedice	(Real world distance)
17:22	Jordach	Pavel_S' model doesn't seem as good as my custom Sam model@ http://s24.postimg.org/4an2jig3p/render_Minetest2.png
17:22	hoodedice	Later
17:23	hoodedice	Yes, Jordach, it isn't as good
17:23	hoodedice	In fact, it is actually better
17:23	hoodedice	BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
17:23	DanDuncombe	He added a background.
17:23	Jordach	he uses Inverse Kinetics; I don't
17:23	DanDuncombe	Maybe, Jordach, if you could add scenery to your renders.
17:23	NekoGloop	meow
17:23	Calinou	hoodedice: lag != low fps
17:23	Jordach	btw - mine can be used ingame with correctly added keyframes ;)
17:24	Jordach	because it's Taoki[laptop]'s model with a twist
17:24	hoodedice	!Calinou LAG
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17:24	hoodedice	Of around 3 minutes
17:24	hoodedice	FPS is 60
17:25	Jordach	huh, this LCD panel i have has 5ms delay
17:25	hoodedice	(Multiplayer)
17:25	Peacock	its prolly lagging cuz there are 13 logged on right now :P 17 earlier
17:25	hoodedice	Ya
17:25	Peacock	and not nearly enough chat history to catch everything lol
17:25	hoodedice	This morning, there were 3
17:25	hoodedice	and like 30 seconds lag
17:25	Peacock	things are usually quieter lol
17:25	hoodedice	15 MBPS apparently is not enough :P
17:26	Peacock	15mbps?
17:26	hoodedice	ya
17:26	hoodedice	dload
17:26	Peacock	who has 15mbps?
17:26	hoodedice	I have
17:26	Peacock	ok cuz i think i just have 6mbps
17:26	hoodedice	But I'm like literally on the other side of the world
17:26	hoodedice	(REAL_WORLD)
17:27	Peacock	im in Quebec so what would be on the other side?
17:27	hoodedice	Hmm, Moscow?
17:27	Peacock	well that's norther hemisphere
17:27	hoodedice	Middle East?
17:28	Peacock	id bet australia is pretty much on the other side
17:28	hoodedice	Middle East.
17:28	hoodedice	Nah, close enough
17:28	Peacock	lol
17:28	* NekoGloop	puts a kitten on Calinou's head
17:28	hoodedice	Later
17:28	Peacock	though sometimes geoip gives my location as miami lol
17:28	Peacock	lates
17:28	DanDuncombe	Is there a way of making a node that always has a certain entity above it? If the enitity is removed, it places another.
17:29	* Calinou	removes kitten
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17:34	Peacock	whats a good player # cap for 6mbps dsl connections?
17:35	Calinou	Peacock: 6mbps actual up speed?
17:35	Peacock	up im not sure
17:35	Peacock	probably less
17:36	Calinou	speedtest.net
17:36	Peacock	i got complaints of lag between 15~18 players
17:36	Peacock	so maybe 14 max
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17:46	DanDuncombe	Who thinks camo hovercrafts should be considered solar powered, and so have a solar panel texture on each side.
17:47	Jordach	http://i.imgur.com/UoZLSK6.png :)
17:48	Jordach	my model is ready for animations
17:48	DanDuncombe	Lol mouth
17:48	Jordach	and voxel teeth :)
17:48	MinetestBot	GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Add support for setting stepheight for entities 251e3e01c7 2013-07-30T10:48:02-07:00 http://git.io/hAL2MQ
18:04	Jordach	http://i.imgur.com/pYZqrIJ.png
18:04	Calinou	lol
18:04	Calinou	he looks like he unzipped his pants
18:05	webdesigner97	:D
18:05	PilzAdam	Calinou, *she
18:05	PilzAdam	her name is Fiola
18:06	Jordach	PilzAdam, you should go to Nazia
18:06	Calinou	-ENOTFUN
18:06	Jordach	"nah-zee-ah"
18:07	webdesigner97	I on_mapgen_init called only once when map is loaded first or every time a new chunk is generated?
18:07	PilzAdam	once
18:08	webdesigner97	perfect
18:08	webdesigner97	thx
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18:32	Jordach	i had three posts that needed to be merged; https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102918#p102918
18:32	Jordach	(well, someone else's, but three in a row is excessive)
18:35	Peacock	webdesigner97 making the map now
18:37	webdesigner07	is minetest.place_schematic() included in your menufixes3 build, PilzAdam?
18:37	PilzAdam	yes
18:38	PilzAdam	you can see that in the commit log too
18:38	webdesigner07	I'm not good at those github features ;)
18:38	PilzAdam	its not a github feature
18:40	Peacock	github interface designers are prolly the same guys that did blenders' :p
18:41	NekoGloop	You mean, the new one?
18:41	NekoGloop	The old interface was just fine...
18:41	DanDuncombe	How can I do a git commit if netiher the shell nor gui work?
18:41	Peacock	its a little better than the old one, but not by much lol
18:42	PilzAdam	DanDuncombe, I still think that its not a software problem
18:42	DanDuncombe	How canI git commit from the git command line?Exact commands please.
18:43	PilzAdam	-> #git
18:43	DanDuncombe	What next?
18:44	NekoGloop	The new one is shit...
18:44	NekoGloop	unless, of course, they changed it
18:44	DanDuncombe	What command next?
18:44	NekoGloop	Nope.
18:44	NekoGloop	The old one with all the stuff up in one centralized bar was better
18:44	Peacock	i know complicated designs are meant ot make people feel le3t, but still :p
18:45	DanDuncombe	Which command should I type in next?
18:45	NekoGloop	I'd understand this one if the sidebar scrolled with the window.
18:45	PilzAdam	DanDuncombe, that wasnt a command, I told you to join the #git channel and ask for help there
18:45	DanDuncombe	Oh
18:46	DanDuncombe	Wow. Found the solution.Delete a mod, commit. Re-add it,commit. All works fine.
18:47	DanDuncombe	Wait...
18:47	DanDuncombe	It won'tcommit with that mod installed. ?????
18:48	Peacock	he told you to ask #git
18:48	Peacock	why would you get a different answer the 2nd or 3rd time?
18:49	DanDuncombe	I will try seperating the mods in the offending modpack... Which happens to be one of my modpacks... Ahem.
18:49	Peacock	(someone should sticky a git FAQ/tutorial on forums)
18:49	* DanDuncombe	is slightly embarassed that his own stuff seems to be causing the problem.
18:50	webdesigner07	gtg now
18:50	webdesigner07	bye all :)
18:51	Jordach	made a 80 frame render of my model walking: http://www.mediafire.com/download/2xyizcyd3aopf3y/0000-0080.avi
18:51	DanDuncombe	FINALLY. Note to self: Github doesn't like modpacks.
18:52	DanDuncombe	That is, games with modpacks.
18:52	NekoGloop	I don't want to download it
18:52	NekoGloop	I want to view it
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18:55	* Jordach	re-uploads
18:58	Jordach	http://mg.viewskew.com/u/jordach/m/blender-render-test-1/
18:58	bas080	I have minetest reference in a well  watched youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO2Wc9FEnUg
18:58	DanDuncombe	Who thinks me maintaining the camo modpack wiki is a good iea?
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18:58	DanDuncombe	*idea
19:00	bas080	top comment, oyeah!
19:00	DanDuncombe	Where?
19:00	DanDuncombe	Oh,I see. I voted up too.
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19:01	PenguinDad	!op
19:01	Calinou	bas080: you forgot to say "karma pls"
19:02	LAD	hello every one
19:02	MinetestBot	PenguinDad: nope.api
19:02	DanDuncombe	Blah
19:02	PilzAdam	^ sfan5 MinetestBot has a typo :-p
19:02	PenguinDad	Hello LAD
19:02	Jordach	PenguinDad, i can !op, you cant :)
19:02	LAD	hello PenguinDad
19:03	IceCraft	!op
19:03	Jordach	!op
19:03	Jordach	>:D
19:03	IceCraft	:o
19:03	PilzAdam	!deop Jordach
19:03	Jordach	i can do that too
19:03	IceCraft	heks
19:03	IceCraft	!op
19:03	Peacock	~queenofsummertime
19:03	NekoGloop	!kitten
19:03	IceCraft	!owner
19:03	Peacock	didn't work
19:03	IceCraft	aw
19:04	NekoGloop	We need a !kitten command
19:04	DanDuncombe	Is a game that is 9.98mb big or small?
19:04	Jordach	quite small
19:04	NekoGloop	!kitten NekoGloop
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19:04	Peacock	10mb dl for every player that logs on
19:04	Peacock	people timeout the first time at 3.8mb for my game
19:04	* MinetestBot	puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head
19:04	Calinou	PilzAdam: wolfgame?
19:04	NekoGloop	:3
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19:04	* LAD	dances
19:04	Calinou	too late
19:04	* DanDuncombe	puts a kitten in a basket.
19:05	* sokomine	picks up the basket and places it in one of her houses
19:05	PilzAdam	Calinou, Ill wait
19:05	* DanDuncombe	asks what sokomine will pay for it?
19:05	* LAD	takes Dan's kitten because it's so cute
19:05	Peacock	though the timeout should be way upped and the screen should show some kind of d/l time remaining
19:05	sokomine	for a kitten? in this channel? you get a reward if you take one away :-)
19:06	* DanDuncombe	snatces it back and strokes it.
19:06	DanDuncombe	*snatches it
19:06	DanDuncombe	Is MasterBot there?
19:06	* LAD	takes it back and strokes it than sais my presus
19:06	Peacock	beeeeanned
19:06	* DanDuncombe	wallops LAD and saves the kitten.
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19:08	* NekoGloop	snatches the kitten from Dan
19:08	pitriss	VanessaE: I want to ask: Is possible to fix somehow toilet flushing sound in homedecor mod? that can be heard in whole server (on landrush.bremaweb.com)
19:08	PilzAdam	DanDuncombe, MasterBot is banned
19:08	Calinou	lol, that can be fun
19:08	sokomine	oh? where too many kittens disposed off? quick, breed some new ones!
19:08	Calinou	markveidemanis, getting banned since 2012®
19:09	DanDuncombe	PilzAdam,in my zombies mod if you put only_peaceful_mobs in the minetest.conf, no zombies will spawn. Is that correct?
19:09	Megaf	Folks, the server was running just fine here till my server crashed because of a missbehaving software, now the minetest server wont start anymore, http://paste.debian.net/20324/
19:09	PilzAdam	DanDuncombe, if you havent deleted that part of the simple mobs API
19:10	Megaf	I tried in different computers, using the same world, mods and conf files
19:10	DanDuncombe	Good.
19:10	Megaf	same error
19:10	Megaf	if I use another world, it works
19:11	DanDuncombe	Does it need to have a =trueor =1 PilzAdam?
19:11	DanDuncombe	*=true or
19:12	svuorela	is there some way to get wheat to grow faster ?
19:13	sokomine	bribe pilzadam to make it grow faster again
19:13	sokomine	apart from that, wet soil and a lot of light ought to help
19:13	Peacock	code fertilizer :P
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19:14	svuorela	Peacock: I was hoping it already existed
19:15	sokomine	on the kingarthur server, there is some fertilizer. at least on the testserver
19:15	Peacock	spray bottle tool -> turn farm soil to fertilized farm soil (or just use meta int fertilizer=1
19:15	Peacock	)
19:16	Jordach	can this post be locked and deleted? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4039
19:16	Peacock	necrolocking?
19:16	Peacock	its old,
19:16	Peacock	who cares lol
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19:17	Megaf	here the problem got something to do with a file inside the players folder
19:18	Megaf	I moved the players folder and the server started
19:18	Peacock	besides he comes and goes, might as well keep the same thread to post all the anouncements in :p
19:18	sokomine	maybe one of the playerfiles lost some data (playerargsend or something like that)
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19:21	DylanCl	Hi. Sorry for asking, but how can I download tewturepacks?
19:21	Megaf	sokomine, shouldnt it show me any clue?
19:22	DanDuncombe	DylanCl: Click the download button
19:22	DylanCl	DanDuncombe: there is no download button..
19:23	DanDuncombe	Which one do you want?
19:23	DanDuncombe	Give the url
19:23	DylanCl	Sphax
19:23	DylanCl	http://minetest.net/_detail/scr_spbdc_mt04.png?id=texturepacks
19:23	Calinou	you download it, then you extract it, then you put the "textures" directory in your minetest directory
19:23	Calinou	that is, for properly packaged packs
19:23	DylanCl	I can't see/find the download button for it
19:24	DanDuncombe	Click the download button just below picture
19:24	DanDuncombe	It is at the bottom of the webpage that then opens.
19:24	reactor	Why does worldedit remove the block if I punch it when //p sel is enabled?
19:24	reactor	(creative mode, oneclick)
19:24	DylanCl	I don't see it?
19:25	DanDuncombe	I will give you the link.
19:25	Calinou	don't use oneclick, it is likely to conflict
19:25	Jordach	DylanCl, use the forum link
19:25	DanDuncombe	The 256x256 download. http://adf.ly/564553/stbdc-256-mt04
19:26	DylanCl	Alright, thanks!
19:26	DylanCl	Another thing, is there a way to change the controls from wsad to qzsd?
19:27	Calinou	DylanCl: yes, in the controls menu
19:27	Calinou	Settings > Change Keys
19:27	DylanCl	Oh sorry, didn't look at the controls before joining a server
19:27	DylanCl	Asking real noob questions here... :P
19:27	Megaf	PilzAdam, any idea how to track down whats causing this? I believe is some player file on the players folder  http://paste.debian.net/20324/
19:28	PilzAdam	Megaf, run that world in a latest git version of the engine once, it tells you which file is corrupted
19:29	Megaf	PilzAdam, the one from here? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tarball/master
19:29	PilzAdam	yes
19:30	DanDuncombe	Wow. That was lucky. I found an Industry Corp. Crate(zombies_game) and it gave me a mese sword.
19:32	Calinou	Industry Co. Supply Crate
19:32	* Calinou	buys a key
19:32	* Calinou	opens
19:32	* Calinou	finds a Strange Wood Sword!
19:32	Calinou	SO MUCH BETTER THAN MY DIAMOND SWORD
19:33	Megaf	so, now its added some good debug system
19:34	PilzAdam	Calinou, sadly there are too many kids playing wofflegame
19:38	Jordach	wafflegame*
19:38	Megaf	PilzAdam, building it, hope it works
19:39	DanDuncombe	Who thinks zombies is too hard?
19:40	DanDuncombe	Also, in an abm, is there any way of making it apply to all nodes registered, without listing them all?
19:41	PilzAdam	that would crash Minetest
19:42	DanDuncombe	It would be for spawning mobs.
19:42	DanDuncombe	To say that they spawn on everything.
19:43	ShadowNinja	First time I have seen glitches like this: http://imgur.com/wZFX3rc,i3G1mtK (There are two screenshots)
19:43	meldrian	bye bye minetester
19:45	DanDuncombe	Is there a solution to the abm?
19:45	PilzAdam	its simply insane to run an ABM on all nodes
19:45	DanDuncombe	This would be the code to change: http://pastebin.com/bxs6aSqC
19:46	ShadowNinja	PilzAdam: Do you know what those glitches might be caused by?
19:46	DanDuncombe	Or should I just add stone and a couple of other things?
19:46	PilzAdam	ShadowNinja, whats the server version and the client version?
19:49	Megaf	PilzAdam, 16:49:16: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Player::deSerialize(): PlayerArgsEnd of player "BENJAGAMER777" not found
19:49	DanDuncombe	Is this a correct change? minetest.env:      to     minetest.
19:50	Megaf	PilzAdam, so thats who causing the problem
19:50	PilzAdam	yes, go to the players/ folder in the world and look at the file
19:51	ShadowNinja	PilzAdam: Client is very recent, server is 0.4.7.
19:51	Megaf	PilzAdam, there is nothing in that file, I will delete it
19:51	PilzAdam	ShadowNinja, there is a compatibility issue with water between new client and old server
19:51	PilzAdam	Megaf, yep
19:51	ShadowNinja	Yep, just reproduced it with water.
19:52	reactor	does player_textures support full-blown player skins?
19:52	reactor	like character.png?
19:52	Calinou	yes
19:52	reactor	good
19:52	Calinou	both 3D and 2D iirc
19:52	DanDuncombe	Is a torch light level 14?
19:53	Jordach	you want the one by sdzen, as PilzAdam's doesn't work with the 3d player
19:53	DanDuncombe	And should zombies only spawn under, say light level 10?
19:53	reactor	Jordach: I realise
19:53	Jordach	https://github.com/sdzen/player_textures
19:53	Jordach	!title
19:53	MinetestBot	Jordach: sdzen/player_textures · GitHub
19:53	reactor	I see that zdzen's one is minecraft-compatible
19:53	Jordach	reactor, i have some skins availible, and you can request them
19:54	reactor	meh, I do already have some :D
19:54	PilzAdam	Jordach, sdzen just provided a patch for my mod, and I thought it would be best to keep them seperated
19:54	PilzAdam	so it isnt exactly "his"
19:54	Megaf	PilzAdam, it seem likes there are several player files corrupted
19:54	PilzAdam	Megaf, yes, that happens
19:55	Jordach	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6270
19:55	reactor	wait a sec
19:55	Jordach	reactor, see my link
19:55	reactor	I replaced the mods' textures with mine
19:55	reactor	and they don't show up
19:55	reactor	players say blocks look default
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19:56	PilzAdam	have you restarted the server?
19:56	reactor	Jordach: good skins
19:57	DanDuncombe	PilzAdam: When it is night time, what is the light level? When no torches are placed, in open ground.
19:57	PilzAdam	dunno
19:58	Calinou	4 I guess
19:58	Megaf	PilzAdam, any way to get the players stuff back?
19:58	Megaf	some people will not be happy
19:58	PilzAdam	Megaf, from a map backup
19:59	DanDuncombe	Does anyone think more zombies should be added to zombies_game?
20:01	Megaf	PilzAdam, more than a 100 players affected, how could that happen? How a file just goes blank?
20:01	PilzAdam	thats a deeper rooted issue in Minetest
20:01	Megaf	PilzAdam, you are one of the players affected
20:02	PilzAdam	Minetest currently just writes the file directly, the proper way would be to write to a buffer and then copy the file
20:02	Megaf	so is celeron55
20:02	PilzAdam	what server?
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20:03	Megaf	PilzAdam, Megaf Server (megaf.no-ip.info) you came there once or twice
20:03	PilzAdam	I dont really play on any servers
20:06	bows	hi
20:06	VanessaE	DanDuncombe: yes, camo and hovercrafts are up-to-date (green camo vs. blue), at least to that point.
20:06	bows	ive just started playing
20:06	VanessaE	*skims rest of scrollback...  tl;dr*
20:07	VanessaE	hi all
20:07	PilzAdam	hey V
20:07	Calinou	hi
20:08	reactor	is there a third person view?
20:08	PilzAdam	reactor, go on a server with >= 3 players
20:08	PilzAdam	then you can look at the third one
20:08	Megaf	ERROR[ServerThread]: Serverlist at url servers.minetest.net error (Timeout was reached)
20:09	Megaf	whats that now?
20:09	reactor	PilzAdam: good point
20:09	VanessaE	Megaf: that happens to me also
20:09	PilzAdam	Megaf, client or server?
20:09	Megaf	PilzAdam, server
20:09	Megaf	but at least I can see my server listed
20:10	DanDuncombe	Does anyone have a good alarm/siren nodebox shape?
20:11	Exio4	damn
20:11	Exio4	missed RBA
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20:19	bows	vanessa do i need mods for your server ?
20:19	DanDuncombe	No
20:19	DanDuncombe	You don't
20:20	DanDuncombe	But you need the very latest github.
20:20	VanessaE	bows: no.  same is true for all minetest servers, regarding mods
20:20	PilzAdam	bows, mods are generally server side, the client doesnt need anythig
20:20	bows	0.4.7 ?
20:20	Exio4	latest git *minetest*
20:20	VanessaE	regarding which version you run, that depends on the server, some still need old versions - mine requires a git build no older than July 22.
20:20	VanessaE	http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.7-ff7c380-win32.7z
20:20	VanessaE	this, for example
20:21	Jordach	five bucks user doesnt have 7z or winRAR
20:21	VanessaE	blame sfan5 for packing those builds in that form :)
20:21	Calinou	7-zip is FOSS, and quick to install :P
20:21	bows	im already on 0.4.7
20:21	PilzAdam	my builds use normal .zip
20:21	VanessaE	bows: no, git latest.  not 0.4.7-stable
20:22	VanessaE	0.4.7-stable is out of date.
20:22	VanessaE	(!)
20:22	Calinou	by definition stable is always out of date
20:22	VanessaE	yup
20:22	PilzAdam	Calinou, not debian definition
20:22	bows	oh ok im kinda new to the whole minetest
20:23	VanessaE	Calinou: we should name them -old and -rusty for the previous two version releases ;-)
20:23	PilzAdam	by debian's defintion stable is always unstable and shouldnt be included in stable release
20:23	DanDuncombe	Can someone tell me the problem? http://pastebin.com/1xsbHvj9
20:23	Exio4	PilzAdam: for them versions are like features and stable has a nice 'feature freeze'
20:24	Exio4	you're probably using ubuntu
20:24	Calinou	PilzAdam uses kubuntu :P
20:24	Exio4	that is debian + 'some packages updated' + canonical shit
20:24	bows	the website only has the 0.4.7
20:24	VanessaE	bows: download, extract, and use this:   http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.7-ff7c380-win32.7z
20:24	VanessaE	forget the one on the website, it's old.
20:24	DanDuncombe	VanessaE, do you know the abm's problem?
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20:25	Exio4	Calinou: oh, *k*ubuntu? hm, k
20:25	Exio4	that is less canonical shit then :D
20:25	PilzAdam	and more KDE awesomeness
20:25	VanessaE	DanDuncombe: not sure really, too tired to look at code right now
20:25	Calinou	chromium is now rolling release in 13.04, looks like
20:25	Calinou	I have chromium 28 :P
20:25	DanDuncombe	Does anyone else know?
20:25	Calinou	and that's a good thing
20:25	Jordach	i have chrome 28+
20:26	bows	would help if i had 7zip
20:26	PilzAdam	google is evil
20:26	Calinou	chrome is evil
20:26	Calinou	^ :D
20:26	Jordach	i;'m owed 5 bucks
20:26	Jordach	<Jordach> five bucks user doesnt have 7z or winRAR
20:26	bows	im on firefox
20:26	PilzAdam	bows, use my builds then
20:26	DanDuncombe	PilzAdam, do you know the ABM's problem?
20:26	PilzAdam	(see forum)
20:26	PenguinDad	bows 7-zip.org IIRC
20:26	Jordach	!g 7-zip
20:26	MinetestBot	Jordach: http://www.7-zip.org/
20:26	Jordach	!title
20:26	MinetestBot	Jordach: 7-Zip
20:27	Jordach	who's a good MinetestBot?
20:27	bas080	The Matrix in Minetest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkHtb2LZWIM
20:27	MinetestBot	PilzAdam!
20:27	bas080	hello MinetestBot
20:27	MinetestBot	sup bas080.
20:27	VanessaE	bas080: dafuq?
20:27	PenguinDad	!title
20:27	MinetestBot	PenguinDad: The Matrix in Minetest - YouTube
20:28	DanDuncombe	Can anyone help with the abm?
20:28	bas080	VanessaE, i know. formspecs look awesome with this filter on
20:29	VanessaE	this is a shader, or..?
20:29	DanDuncombe	Figured oit out know with the abm
20:29	bas080	I think some kind of contrast filter.
20:29	bas080	It was a preset.
20:29	bas080	and i thought it looked cool.
20:29	VanessaE	weird
20:29	DanDuncombe	Does anyone have a good siren/alarm nodebox?
20:30	Calinou	nope
20:30	Calinou	you could use rubenwardy's thingy for making nodeboxes :p
20:30	bas080	DanDuncmbe. you can make one using mesecons
20:30	bows	my laptops not coping with that
20:30	DanDuncombe	I already have that.
20:30	DanDuncombe	I want a good nodebox shape.
20:30	DanDuncombe	And I have no ideas.
20:30	bows	pilzadam ill use your build
20:30	Calinou	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2840
20:31	* IceCraft	gunzips
20:31	Calinou	*ziiips*
20:31	IceCraft	yaay
20:31	Megaf	!up megaf.no-ip.info 30000
20:31	MinetestBot	megaf.no-ip.info:30000 is up (455ms)
20:31	reactor	?
20:31	Calinou	a wild IPv6 user appears: IceCraft
20:31	IceCraft	hehe
20:32	IceCraft	am i the only ipv6 user here? ;'(
20:33	PilzAdam	only one on the whole internet
20:33	IceCraft	yes
20:33	PenguinDad	proller uses IPV6 too.
20:33	IceCraft	everybody should use it
20:33	bows	pilz can i use your build ?
20:33	reactor	not yet
20:33	Calinou	everypony*
20:33	PilzAdam	everypony
20:33	Calinou	haha
20:33	reactor	Russia doesn't go v6 yet
20:33	PilzAdam	Calinou, ^^
20:33	Calinou	a lot of software doesn't support it
20:33	Calinou	like Red Eclipse or Sauerbraten :P
20:33	IceCraft	^^
20:33	IceCraft	Sauerbraten yesyesyes
20:34	reactor	MinetestBot: 02:33:28: ERROR[main]: unsupported NodeBox version
20:34	reactor	oops
20:34	Calinou	and there are no end user advantages for now
20:34	reactor	Megaf: 02:33:28: ERROR[main]: unsupported NodeBox version
20:34	PilzAdam	Minetest supports it
20:34	reactor	that.
20:34	Calinou	except if ISPs will finally not use NAT
20:34	Calinou	(no NAT = no port forwarding, firewalls become useful)
20:34	bows	cuz i cannot find 0.4.8
20:34	Megaf	can anyone try to connect to my server please? People are timing out (megaf.no-ip.info)
20:34	Calinou	there is no 0.4.8
20:35	reactor	I've tried, and I failed.
20:35	bows	ok so 0.4.7 is latest ?
20:35	Calinou	yes
20:35	Calinou	my ISP has IPv6 available, but I don't use it :P
20:35	VanessaE	bows: again, don't use the stable release if you don't have to.  Use this:  http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.7-ff7c380-win32.7z
20:36	PenguinDad	My ISP not :/
20:36	PilzAdam	Megaf, "invalid password" wut?
20:36	IceCraft	!up icecraft-is-best.tk
20:36	MinetestBot	icecraft-is-best.tk:30000 seems to be down
20:36	bows	im good ill just wait
20:36	IceCraft	lie
20:36	reactor	same, bows
20:36	reactor	don't see any point of using unstable in package systems
20:36	Megaf	bows time out too
20:36	Megaf	weird
20:36	bows	would help if i put my password in
20:36	reactor	Megaf: use stable serve
20:36	reactor	r
20:36	PilzAdam	Megaf, can you reset my password?
20:36	bows	yea megaf
20:36	Megaf	PilzAdam, I deleted your file
20:37	reactor	life?
20:37	reactor	deleted his life?
20:37	PilzAdam	Megaf, you need to reset my password in auth.txt
20:37	bows	!up megaf.no-ip.org
20:37	MinetestBot	megaf.no-ip.org:30000 seems to be down
20:37	bows	its down
20:37	Megaf	I just shut down
20:37	bows	ok
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20:38	IceCraft	:o
20:38	* IceCraft	emerges
20:38	bows	oop my laptop just spazzed
20:39	Calinou	zombie laptop!
20:39	reactor	wned
20:39	Jordach	!up icecraft-is-best.tk
20:39	MinetestBot	icecraft-is-best.tk:30000 seems to be down
20:39	bows	lol its only got 1 gig of ram so poor thing
20:40	Calinou	IceCraft is best teamkiller!
20:40	IceCraft	yes
20:40	* IceCraft	teamkills Calinou
20:41	reactor	!up 127.0.0.1
20:41	MinetestBot	127.0.0.1:30000 is up (102ms)
20:41	reactor	!up localhost
20:41	MinetestBot	reactor: Invalid Address
20:41	IceCraft	woa
20:41	reactor	oh yeah
20:42	reactor	local ping 102 ms
20:42	PilzAdam	reactor, MinetestBot is hosted on minetest.ru
20:42	reactor	lagfest.
20:42	reactor	mkay
20:42	reactor	!up goatse.cx
20:42	MinetestBot	goatse.cx:30000 seems to be down
20:42	reactor	aha.
20:42	bows	keep forgetting my password
20:42	Megaf	folks, can you please try again? reactor, bows, PilzAdam
20:42	IceCraft	:o
20:42	IceCraft	ew
20:42	reactor	yes
20:42	IceCraft	no pls
20:42	PilzAdam	reactor, stop abusing the bot
20:42	reactor	Sorry.
20:42	IceCraft	^
20:42	Megaf	man, just crashed again
20:42	reactor	I'm not abusig it. I only tried to stretch it a little.
20:43	Megaf	ok
20:43	Megaf	I know what happened
20:43	bows	whats the ip again ?
20:43	Megaf	servers down
20:43	PilzAdam	bows, there is this thing called "logs"
20:43	reactor	totally
20:43	reactor	he probably runs some old IRC client in a 80x25 terminal, with no scrollback
20:43	bows	im a girl
20:44	bows	and no i use the inbrowser client
20:44	reactor	Sorry. It's safer to assume all people on the ARPANET are male, unless stated otherwise.
20:44	reactor	browser client
20:44	reactor	even worse
20:44	bows	and i havent used irc befor
20:44	reactor	What OS?
20:44	bows	vista
20:44	reactor	Oh, there we go. :(
20:45	PilzAdam	everyone in the internet is male
20:45	PilzAdam	bots are female
20:45	Calinou	bows uses webchat ;)
20:45	PilzAdam	and if someone claims to be a child then its an FBI agent
20:45	Calinou	PilzAdam: you forgot about ponies :<
20:45	* sokomine	is a bot and kicks pilzadam
20:45	bows	im useless ive never use irc
20:45	IceCraft	irssie best
20:45	Calinou	if someone claims to be a pyro or an engineer or a Sam II they're a spy
20:46	sokomine	a samII? but normal sams are ok? (arn't we all sam in mt?)
20:46	PilzAdam	Calinou, the new offical name of the default player is Fiola, btw
20:47	Calinou	wat
20:47	Calinou	that is... stupid
20:47	Calinou	but whatever
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20:48	VanessaE	no, it's SAM and it will remain SAM no matter what :)
20:48	Calinou	wb DanDuncombe
20:49	DanDuncombe	What is it, Calinou?
20:49	DanDuncombe	I need to go anyway.
20:49	Calinou	wb = welcome back
20:49	IceCraft	bye
20:49	Calinou	I have to go too, night :)
20:49	IceCraft	nite
20:49	DanDuncombe	Goodbye huys.
20:49	reactor	bows: you should get a good OS first, man
20:49	IceCraft	Lolo
20:49	reactor	Start from Ubuntu.
20:49	DanDuncombe	Guys I mean
20:49	IceCraft	Yes
20:49	IceCraft	Kubuntu
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20:49	bows	im good with vista reactor
20:49	reactor	Or, fuck Ubuntu. Start from Debian.
20:49	IceCraft	no
20:50	IceCraft	Gentoo
20:50	* IceCraft	emerges
20:50	* reactor	slaps IceCraft
20:50	* IceCraft	slaps back
20:50	reactor	no one needs Gentoo. There is NetBSD if you want red eyes.
20:50	IceCraft	pls
20:50	IceCraft	Gentoo is Nr1
20:50	reactor	Gentoo is Linux.
20:51	reactor	No matter how hard they try, they ain't gonna make Linux BSD.
20:51	Peacock	youd think griefers would choose a less obvious name than minecraft* lol
20:51	reactor	bows: but not to stuff the brain with shit, start from NetBSD right away.
20:51	reactor	Will free you a year of time or so.
20:51	bows	reactor: i have no clue
20:51	IceCraft	bows
20:52	IceCraft	Use Gentoo
20:52	bows	yes ice
20:52	reactor	But meh.
20:52	reactor	Anyway, look at them all, choose one, work on it.
20:52	IceCraft	if you want to have it easy use ubuntu
20:52	Megaf	bows, reactor PilzAdam, please for the last time, megaf.no-ip.info
20:53	bows	ok meg
20:53	reactor	Last time, so you say!
20:53	IceCraft	!up megaf.no-ip.info
20:53	MinetestBot	megaf.no-ip.info:30000 is up (360ms)
20:53	IceCraft	woa
20:53	IceCraft	360 ms
20:53	PilzAdam	Megaf, you still havent reset by password
20:54	Megaf	PilzAdam, done
20:54	PilzAdam	...
20:54	reactor	!up megaf.no-ip.info:30000==================================================================================================================================================================================halt
20:54	MinetestBot	reactor: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
20:55	PilzAdam	still no lucj
20:55	PilzAdam	!mute reactor
20:55	IceCraft	lol
20:55	Exio4	ew
20:55	Peacock	ty
20:55	bows	!up megaf.no-ip.info
20:55	MinetestBot	megaf.no-ip.info:30000 is up (365ms)
20:55	PilzAdam	Megaf, you need to run /auth_reload after editing the file...
20:56	IceCraft	wtf +q
20:56	Megaf	PilzAdam, but I did /clearpassword
20:56	Megaf	ok, I will edit the file
20:56	Megaf	fuck
20:56	Megaf	sorry
20:56	Jordach	PilzAdam, it's Sam, now please gtfo
20:56	Megaf	segmentation fault now
20:56	Megaf	I give up, gotta go
20:57	Jordach	git points to me creating the skin so please, gtfo or use Sam as the name
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21:01	Jordach	!unmute reactor
21:01	Jordach	flags only work when the guy is here :P
21:02	IceCraft	interesting flags. qnet just have boring standard shit ;'(
21:03	Jordach	not to mention they can be waved
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21:08	VanessaE	bbl
21:11	ShadowNinja	sfan5: Can you add //pos1 [x,y,z|x y z] to WE?
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21:25		reactor joined #minetest
21:25	reactor	Eh.
21:28	IceCraft	he
21:29	reactor	By the way. Software rendering in NetBSD: ftp://94.51.188.173/pub/130731-032406.png
21:30	reactor	By the way. Software rendering in NetBSD: ftp://94.51.188.173/pub/130731-032406.png
21:30	reactor	Oops.
21:30	reactor	Damn scrollback.
21:39	Exio4	>ftp >2013 </calinou>
21:39	Exio4	;P
21:41	reactor	What?
21:42	reactor	FTP is not outdated.
21:42	reactor	Damn it.
21:42	reactor	You don't need to reinvent the wheel.
21:42	Exio4	reactor: i didn't say that
21:42	Exio4	i was copy-ing calinou
21:42	reactor	Heh.
21:42	reactor	I get it.
21:42	reactor	:D
21:42	Exio4	finally!
21:43	reactor	Rectally.
21:53	NekoGloop	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzp_T_Zsyt4
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22:04	ShadowNinja	What do you think of a "/ip <playerName>" command?
22:04	Peacock	did they add the get ip function?
22:04	Peacock	would be handy for my prison (otherwise they come back w/ diff name)
22:05	reactor	BDSM?
22:06	Peacock	oh yeah, you'd be surprised what i can do with a nodebox cheese grater
22:09	NekoGloop	I... No. Stop that.
22:09	Peacock	well, ask a silly question lol
22:10	ShadowNinja	Peacock: Yes, a while ago, but there is no command to use it.
22:10	Peacock	:(
22:10	Peacock	otherwise its ban, get ip from worldpath, unban, but by then, the prison is useless lol
22:11	Peacock	i wanna give server admins /ban, and country admins /jail
22:13	Peacock	i already have autoban for Guest names, will add autoban for scattered node placement, and autoban for frivolous use of deco_fire lol
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22:57	NekoGloop	oooooog, I ate too much
22:58	* Exio4	eats NekoGloop
23:01		Semilevel joined #minetest
23:10	* Jordach	eats Exio4
23:10	Exio4	nuu
23:14	Peacock	is there a lua shorthand for value = value + 1?
23:14	PilzAdam	no
23:14	Peacock	dang
23:14	Peacock	thanks
23:18	Uberi	new WE feature added, beginning with "upside-down" and ending with "pyramids"
23:20		Kacey joined #minetest
23:20	Kacey	VanessaE, http://i.imgur.com/D68Fcpk.png
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23:42	Jordach	http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/270/untitled.png
23:42	PilzAdam	is that one grass block under her?
23:43	Jordach	PilzAdam, that's a plane of grass
23:44	PilzAdam	the pixels are bigger than in normal Minetest
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23:44	Jordach	PilzAdam, that's because blender wouldn't do it as i had it in the viewport
23:45	hoodedice	her?
23:45	hoodedice	Sam is a girl?
23:45	Kacey	http://i.imgur.com/D68Fcpk.png
23:45	Jordach	if anyone wants that pickaxe as a blend file, feel free
23:46	hoodedice	!Kacey Nice. Forest?
23:47	Kacey	no moretrees fucked up and this happened
23:47	hoodedice	Looks nice though
23:48	Kacey	it is impossible to go through...
23:49	Peacock	jesus, wheres the land?
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23:50	Kacey	that is my questin...
23:50	Kacey	question*
23:50	Peacock	can be fixed with a quick fire :p
23:51	Kacey	fire is disabled...
23:51	Kacey	and i deleted that world and made a new one
23:51	Peacock	i noticed its the preferred method of griefing lol
23:54	Exio4	lol, nice render Jordach
23:58	Peacock	hehe, got a few new surprises for griefers *evil grin*

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