Time Nick Message 00:00 Peacock http://youtu.be/NZkStSdlh3c 00:00 PilzAdam !title 00:00 MinetestBot PilzAdam: Family Guy - Palestinian Alarm Clock - YouTube 00:39 Peacock awesome https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102672#p102672 00:42 VanessaE wow, nice cheat! 00:42 VanessaE using flowing liquid to do it 00:42 Peacock seriously i would have never thought of it 00:45 Peacock one could make a whole replacement default off that idea 00:45 VanessaE *nod* 00:45 VanessaE I'd like to see this extended into a full mod that covers all the standard terrain blocks 00:45 Peacock heck even my leaning tower of madrid would look better that way 00:46 Exio4 how funny, downloading a texture takes more than fixing a bu 00:46 Exio4 +g 00:46 Peacock though mods like moreblocks could have a 'flowing' version of each node too 00:46 PilzAdam VanessaE, note that the collissionbox is still blocky 00:46 VanessaE yeah, I saw 00:46 Peacock i can deal with that lol 00:46 VanessaE not much can be done about that I guess 00:46 Peacock at least it looks better thou 00:46 Peacock *though 00:47 PilzAdam s/better/different 00:47 PilzAdam "better" is a matter of personal preference 00:47 Peacock not all nodes need to be smooth, but having the choice is nicer than not having it 00:47 VanessaE only the landscape need be smoothed, buildings/structures should still be blocky 00:47 VanessaE I wonder if I can use the same trick for homedecor's roofing materials 00:48 Peacock probably yeah 00:48 Exio4 the other day when i was bored 00:48 Exio4 i made the stone, dirt, dirt_with_grass, and sand 00:49 Exio4 liquids, with their 'flowing version' 00:49 Exio4 made the liquid_update run at max speed and enabled finite_liquids 00:49 Exio4 my poor cpu cried :( 00:50 VanessaE heh 00:50 Peacock my cpu would melt too on finite liquids lol 00:50 Peacock *cpu's 00:50 Exio4 nah, but it was funny to see the floor flow when walking 00:51 Exio4 it isn't that intensive if you limit the liquid update 00:51 arsdragonfly jesus it's so damn hot here these days 00:51 Peacock where? 00:51 arsdragonfly Shanghai 00:52 Peacock im guessing there must be lots of smog with that heat? 00:52 arsdragonfly I've heard ppl cook meat by putting them on the ground 00:52 Peacock or ppl making cookies in their cars lol 00:53 Peacock it went up to 43c two weeks ago, then it dropped to 11c at night last week and i started having back troubles lol 00:53 arsdragonfly no smog;just hot and wet 00:53 Peacock we even got a tornado warning which is uber-rare for this area 00:54 Peacock definately coming out of ice age/mini ice age lol 00:54 arsdragonfly another piece of news: a truck carring fish turned over on a highway 00:55 arsdragonfly it gradually get cooked when being picked up 00:55 Peacock by the time the emergency services got there they found fried catfish? :p 00:55 arsdragonfly yup 00:56 Peacock http://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/time-lapse-video-shows-lake-forming-at-north-pole-1.1386352 01:09 hoodedice So... 01:16 NekoGloop meow 01:17 * MinetestBot pets NekoGloop 01:17 * NekoGloop purrs :3 01:23 Mallot1 giggity giggity! 01:49 PilzAdam Exio4, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102852#p102852 01:49 * PilzAdam wins :-p 01:51 Exio4 ew! 01:51 * Exio4 throws shaders at PilzAdam 01:51 Exio4 one thing, can't exit the mainmenu with ctrl-c 01:51 PilzAdam oh damn, its waaaaaay to late already :-/ 01:52 Exio4 have the press esc, is this 'intended'? 01:52 PilzAdam Exio4, yes 01:52 PilzAdam bye 02:04 * Kacey has decided he wants to be Santa .. because Santa knows where all the naughty girls live. 02:04 VanessaE heh 02:04 Kacey status shuffle on facebook lol 02:05 Kacey some people say I'm a horrible person, but it's not true! I have the heart of an innocent girl... in a jar, on my desk 02:05 VanessaE but consider: those are all children.. santa's a fucking pedophile! 02:05 VanessaE :) 02:06 Peacock so are alot of priests lol 02:06 VanessaE (ref: "Ho Ho, Fucking Ho", Kevin "Bloody" Wilson) 02:06 VanessaE heh 02:06 Exio4 YEAH 02:06 Exio4 got it working! 02:07 VanessaE whaty? 02:07 VanessaE -y\ 02:07 Exio4 VanessaE: bumpmapping with 1.8 :D 02:07 VanessaE oh!? 02:07 VanessaE what did you change> 02:07 VanessaE ? 02:07 Exio4 by http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=47581 i used an int instead of a float 02:08 Exio4 - services->setPixelShaderConstant("normalTexture" , (irr::f32*)&layer, 1); 02:08 Exio4 + services->setPixelShaderConstant("normalTexture" , (irr::s32*)&layer, 1); 02:08 VanessaE one stinkin' variable? 02:08 Exio4 f -> s 02:08 Exio4 one line change 02:08 Exio4 :P 02:08 VanessaE gah, where is rba when you need him 02:08 Kacey Well, I hear someone screaming for help. So I'm off to get more duct tape. Be back later. 02:08 Peacock frying pan usually knocks them out 02:10 Exio4 VanessaE: can you try that 'change' with irrlicht 1.7.x? 02:10 Kacey If you could put a WARNING sign on me what would you put? 02:10 VanessaE Exio4: sure, hang on a sec 02:10 Exio4 the other way would be making it if <1.8 use f32 else s32 02:10 Exio4 i mean, a "fix" 02:10 Exio4 (more like workaround, but whatever) 02:10 VanessaE which file is that in? 02:11 Exio4 game.cpp, line 960~ 02:11 Exio4 err, 807 02:11 Exio4 http://dpaste.com/1322510/ 02:11 Exio4 the .diff :P 02:11 VanessaE got it 02:12 VanessaE er.. 02:12 VanessaE it go boom. 02:12 Exio4 thought so 02:12 VanessaE /home/vanessa/Minetest-related/minetest_core/src/game.cpp:810:74: error: no matching function for call to ‘irr::video::IMaterialRendererServices::setPixelShaderConstant(const char [14], irr::s32*, int)’ 02:13 VanessaE sounds like a case for a compile condional. 02:13 VanessaE conditional* 02:13 Exio4 In v1.8 we added an int interface in IShaderConstantCallBack. Please use this interface to send a textures as int data instead of float. 02:13 Exio4 yeah 02:13 VanessaE shouldn't be too hard to check for 1.8 vs 1.7.x? 02:14 Exio4 it isn't hard 02:14 Exio4 it is already done in the code 02:14 bas080 minetest game UI is not lefty friendly. 02:14 VanessaE you'd think they would have maintained some backwards compatibility though 02:16 Exio4 the excuse is: In this release we fixed many problems with material rendering (mainly in D3D drivers), thats why old methods can work not properly. More info would be helpfull. 02:19 VanessaE ironic really that it should affect us so weirdly, since we have no DX shaders at all in MT. 02:19 Exio4 VanessaE: https://github.com/EXio4/minetest/commit/c1d4467a132c1ee5673dcbc774421aca571d168e 02:19 Exio4 can you try it? 02:19 VanessaE sure 02:20 VanessaE well, it compiles anyway ;) 02:20 Exio4 hehe 02:20 Exio4 and runs? ;P 02:20 VanessaE checking it now 02:21 Kacey Discovering my superhero abilities, one injury at a time 02:21 VanessaE looks fine. 02:21 Exio4 ok, thanks 02:24 * Exio4 yawns and goes to sleep 02:24 Exio4 good night 02:24 VanessaE nooooooOOOoooOOooOOo 02:24 Exio4 wut? :P 02:25 VanessaE heh 02:32 Kacey Next time you're in the dressing room, yell real loud, "Where's the toilet paper?" 02:33 Peacock thats what the newspapers are for 02:33 Peacock just make sure not to put them back where you found t hem 02:34 Kacey I'm pretty sure murdering someone for trying to steal your cookie counts as self defense in court. . . right? 02:35 VanessaE probably not :P) 02:35 VanessaE :P 02:35 Peacock silly kacey, if there's no evidence there was no murder 02:35 Peacock or you could stage it like an accident 02:36 VanessaE oops 02:37 Peacock just make sure you also dispose of all the witnesses :D 02:38 Kacey lol 02:39 Kacey I have short term memory loss. I also have short term memory loss. 02:40 Peacock thats ok, i dont know my age lol 02:41 Peacock 27~29, have to do the math each time 02:41 Kacey lol 02:42 Peacock same with phone numbers and my own adress lol 02:42 Peacock anything with numbers really 02:43 bas080 "I'm pretty sure murdering someone for trying to steal your cookie counts as self defense in court. . . right?" depends on how deep your pockets are 02:43 Peacock i didnt know she was an american :p 02:44 Kacey i am a guy... 02:44 Peacock oups 02:44 Peacock sorry :p 02:44 Kacey common mistake lol 02:44 Peacock for some reason i thought kacey was a girls' name lol 02:46 Peacock though in "Under the Dome" there's a guy named Barbie lol 02:47 bas080 barb sounds manly 02:47 Peacock i wouldn't say barb lol its always been short for Barbara lol 02:47 Kacey under the dome is a good show... i wanna know what the hell it is made of lol 02:47 Peacock "I don't care how disappointed Bruce will be, you must not start calling him Brenda!" 02:48 Peacock i wont spoil the surprise but i know the book :P 02:48 bas080 Barabara means intruder 02:48 bas080 Barbaric 02:48 Peacock also Bush Sr's wife lol 02:49 Kacey ok, mopped the grass, mowed the floor, paid the dishes, and cleaned the bills. chores, done. 02:50 bas080 Don't forget to walk the frog 02:50 Peacock youre supposed to lick the frog, and walk the senior citizen 02:50 Kacey did that earlier 02:50 Kacey status shuffle on facebook lol 02:51 Peacock ugh, i lost interest in facebook once an estranged part of my family found me lol 02:52 Peacock wow, there was a guy (presumably) asking for head on my server, wtf? 02:52 bas080 are they overly interested in you life all of a sudden? 02:52 hood mauvebic. 02:52 hood We got trouble on the starttest server 02:52 Peacock bas080 well its been over ten years, im certainly not lol 02:52 VanessaE mauvebic isn't here. 02:53 Peacock vanoss was banned dont worry 02:53 hood O K 02:53 hood :) 02:53 Kacey I have an amazing idea for Nascar-- Have half the cars go one way while the other half are going the the other way!! Now that I would watch :P 02:53 hood Lawl @KC 02:53 Peacock for future reference, requesting sexual favours is not permitted :p 02:54 bas080 8 i understand, but 0... i just don't get nascar. 02:54 kaeza inb4 Rule 34 server 02:54 * kaeza hides 02:54 Peacock its startest, so rule 47 lol 02:55 Kacey bas080, ? 02:55 hood Rofl Peacock 02:55 bas080 taking about the track 02:55 Kacey ooh the turns? 02:56 bas080 yeah, i also don't understand that Spanish people type "jajaja" when laughing out loud on chat. 02:56 Peacock jajaja = hahaha 02:57 bas080 jajaja 02:57 hood Say, what if the Finnish read that 02:57 Peacock that estranged part of the family i mentioned, they live in south america now :p 02:57 hood jajaja = yayaya 02:57 hood And for the French? 02:57 hood hahaha = a a a 02:58 Peacock french is the same 02:58 Peacock though alot of other expression even i dont get lol 02:59 hood nah, the letter h is silent 03:00 bas080 and i think people that speak english cannot pronounce the g http://translate.google.com/#nl/en/goochelen 03:01 bas080 the left word. 03:01 Peacock germans just seem to amalgamate words until theres no room left on the papaer :P 03:01 Peacock icelandic looks like a pain to learn 03:02 hood goo-she-lein? 03:02 hood with she as in 'she'perd? 03:03 Peacock english is a very simple language, got better grades in it than my native french :P 03:03 hood Same here. 03:04 Peacock ugh, someone griefed all the spawn signs, definately doing newspaper mod 03:05 hood hmm 03:06 hood Wasnt that rotected? 03:06 hood *Protected 03:06 Peacock i dont bother with signs 03:06 Peacock its the worst anyone seems able to do 03:06 hood haha 03:07 Peacock i had to rewrite a dozen builtin functions to deal with griefers tho lol 03:07 hood =/ 03:08 hood Half the time I feel these are minecraft fanboys 03:08 Peacock probably 03:08 Peacock alot of our dumb kids go over there and do the same 03:08 Peacock *special needs i think the term is now 03:09 Peacock http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/34095875.jpg 03:23 hood lawl 03:24 Peacock someone doesn't like my texture pack :'( but its real kentucky blue grass :p 03:24 VanessaE everyone should use HDX :) 03:25 Peacock not everyone can afford a top of the line gfx card on their salaries :p 03:25 VanessaE you can run the 64px size on most GPUs 03:25 Peacock its really a matter of preference anyhow 03:25 Peacock otherwise it would be default 03:26 hood :) 03:27 VanessaE heh 03:27 hood Most GPUs 03:27 hood Yeah, right. 03:27 hood My bro has an i3 and minetest lags worse than my C2D 03:27 VanessaE hood: my old laptop had radeon 9600M or some such thing, pretty low-end, circa 2003 or so. Ran 64px HDX without issue. 03:27 hood Both are inthell GPUs 03:27 VanessaE lag != low fps 03:27 hood At least you have a dedicated 03:28 hood Both low fps and computational lag 03:28 hood On his i3 with some HD2000 03:28 hood Mine's some GMA and C2D 03:28 Peacock the trouble i have with photorealistic in minetest is it looks bad on same-shape/size blocks 03:28 Peacock any other game i prefer realism 03:28 Peacock in MT, i cant stand too low/high rez 03:29 hood I remember seeing something related to terrain tiling in the flightgear wiki 03:29 hood hmm, lemme dig it u 03:29 Peacock the ridiculously small texture packs give me nausea lol 03:29 VanessaE heh 03:30 Peacock im surprised no one's done 1 and 2px yet lol 03:30 Menche i think there is a 1px 03:30 hood There is a 3px 03:31 hood I tried to increase fps on my bros PC with it but to no avail 03:31 Peacock you can improve FPS by removing/disabling alot of fluff 03:31 hood The prob with his PC is not the low fps, but the fs difference 03:31 hood I disabled everything on his 03:31 hood FPS difference. 03:32 Menche a 1x1 texture pack with a slight chance of blinding you: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1407 03:32 hood LAWL 03:32 Menche stay away from large expanses of sand and you won't hurt your eyes too much 03:32 Peacock jesus christ lol 03:32 hood 1 mb ram !!! 03:32 hood rofl 03:33 Peacock "whats the fugliest thing i can come up with?" ... and that lol 03:33 Peacock i still remember playing commander keen on the first color screens, so i dont need that lol 03:43 hood EUREKA !!! 03:43 hood http://wiki.flightgear.org/Procedural_Texturing#Pixel_color_postprocessing_2 03:45 hood Ignore that 03:45 hood http://wiki.flightgear.org/Procedural_Texturing 03:48 hood The teleorting sounds are scary XC 03:49 Peacock lol all the sounds are from st ar trek 03:51 hood So that's why it's called startest 03:52 * hood implodes 03:53 hood Digs pile of grass. 03:53 hood ]Two seconds later, it comes back 03:53 hood FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUu 03:53 hood Starts disappearing 03:53 hood :-| 03:54 hood Only a part of it disappears 03:54 hood FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU 03:55 kaeza CK 04:03 hood Server L....................a....................................................................g 04:04 Peacock should be better now 04:04 kaeza if anyone wants to test: https://github.com/kaeza/cosmorpg 04:04 kaeza oops, wrong chan 04:05 hood :) Kaeza 04:31 deltib so, does the minetest engine currently support features that would allow for maps? 04:34 ShadowNinja deltib: Yes, partly. You can use a texture like shadowninja.minetest.net/map.png on a item or node. 04:34 ShadowNinja I think kaeza wrote a MC-like one. 04:34 kaeza nope 04:34 deltib but not a live texture, accessible to lua? 04:34 ShadowNinja Using coroutines, but it was probably a little slow. 04:34 kaeza it was 4aiman 04:35 ShadowNinja There is probably a LuaPNG library... 04:35 kaeza I just tried to make it not block by using coroutines 04:35 kaeza https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4922 04:35 ShadowNinja It is definitely posible, but it will probably be slow. 04:37 deltib everything I currently know about lua I learned almost exclusively from minetest_game/default 04:38 ShadowNinja Reading existing mods is a good way to start. 04:38 deltib I probably should have read a lua primer first though 04:39 * ShadowNinja hasn't read any. 04:39 ShadowNinja And yet I have written several thousand lines of Lua. 04:41 deltib so far all I've managed to do is experiment with what's possible 04:42 kaeza the thing is not knowing Lua 04:42 kaeza if you have some background in programming, you can learn any language 04:42 kaeza except Lisp; Lisp is a bitch 04:42 deltib on that note, is there a good way of storing information with an item in a stack, so far all I've been able to figure out is to encode the data as a text string and store it in the stack meta data 04:43 deltib I've looked at lisp..it's....quite different 04:44 kaeza there's no other way currently if you want to store data about a single item 04:44 deltib what are the risks of that meta data getting lost as the item is moved around? 04:44 kaeza that depends 04:45 ShadowNinja deltib: If you want to store any piece of data use minetest.{de}serialize() 04:45 kaeza if the item is a tool, or has stack_max=1, none 04:45 ShadowNinja kaeza: I see this a lot in technic... https://github.com/4aiman/mapp/commit/44b4ff218cf59841428cab80ad2c8c66d35038dc 04:45 kaeza if the item can be stacked, then the metadata may be copied, or deleted, or anything 04:46 kaeza ShadowNinja, yes, because it's used in tools 04:46 deltib yeah, I'd stick to stack_max=1 for a "programmed" item 04:46 kaeza no more than one tool may be stored in a stack 04:47 ShadowNinja Why? https://github.com/4aiman/mapp/commit/caa93654e0888f24ef23a3b34f048f36123ea493#L0R10 04:48 kaeza ? 04:48 ShadowNinja kaeza: That line seems useless. 04:55 kaeza ShadowNinja, looks like a profiler 04:55 ShadowNinja kaeza: Yes, but why make a local copy of os.clock()? 04:56 kaeza calling it as os.clock() is slower as storing in a local var and calling it 04:56 kaeza yes, useless optimization :P 04:57 kaeza given that clock() is only called at function entry and exit, it's unlikely it will have any performance hit 04:58 ShadowNinja kaeza: And that saved how much time? Storing it localy probably took more time than that saved you. I can see the benifit if it is called a few hundred thousand times, but... 04:58 ShadowNinja s/you// 04:59 kaeza it's not my code :P 04:59 ShadowNinja Yep, anyway, back to what I was doing... 04:59 kaeza the proper way anyway would be to move the assignment outside the function 05:00 kaeza or better yet: port to core :D 05:53 khonkhortisan ~~~ ╔͎═͓═͙╗ 05:53 khonkhortisan ~~~ ╚̨̈́═̈́﴾ ̥̂˖̫˖̥  ̂ ) 05:53 khonkhortisan that didn't turn out right on a monospace font 05:53 VanessaE hey 05:54 khonkhortisan hi 06:32 reactor Mowing. 06:42 Miner_48er !server linuxgaming.us 06:42 MinetestBot Miner_48er: LinuxGaming.us | LinuxGaming.us | Clients: 5/32, 14 | Version: 0.4.6 | ping: 0.216 08:20 reactor Why does chat have to be that bad? 08:20 reactor Why not just bind the console to T? 08:21 reactor it would relieve the need to separate window 08:34 VanessaE bedtime. night all 08:40 RealBadAngel hi all 08:41 RealBadAngel for those who havent seen it yet: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6737 08:41 RealBadAngel this is coming in a few days 08:42 RealBadAngel hi Calinou 08:43 Calinou hi 08:43 RealBadAngel ive posted recent screenshots of shaders, have you saw them? 08:44 Calinou yes 08:45 Calinou looks good with bumpmapping + parallax 08:45 RealBadAngel now you can see the parallax mapping? :) 08:45 Calinou saw i 08:45 Calinou +t 08:45 RealBadAngel wait to see while moving 08:46 RealBadAngel *it 08:46 RealBadAngel effect is gorund breaking 08:46 * Calinou is doing xubuntu updates 08:46 Calinou 280MB to download, haven't done it in a while 08:46 Calinou ground breaking? prallax mapping is done since at least ~2005 08:46 Calinou what is more ground breaking would be tesselation :P 08:46 RealBadAngel hehe ofc 08:47 RealBadAngel but minetest was still in 20th century regarding gfx 08:48 Calinou there was no real GLSL in the 20th century :P 08:48 RealBadAngel say that to PA 08:48 RealBadAngel he things voxel idea is at least as old as pyramids 08:49 RealBadAngel and thus untouchable 08:49 RealBadAngel *thinks 08:50 RealBadAngel so if latestst of the pharaos havent done anything to introduce nowadays shaders it should stay like this ;) 08:51 diemartin lol 08:51 diemartin hi RBA, Calinou 08:51 RealBadAngel hi diemartin 08:51 PenguinDad hi kaeza 08:52 diemartin hi Dad :P 08:52 diemartin RealBadAngel, those screenies look awesome 08:52 RealBadAngel atm i am testing all the effects that doesnt require hardware lights 08:52 RealBadAngel or at least those i can emulate some lighting 08:52 Calinou hi 08:53 RealBadAngel i do have DOF and motion blur ready too 08:53 Guest42887 Good morning all, happy Paperback Book day! :-D 08:53 diemartin DOF? 08:54 RealBadAngel depth of field 08:54 diemartin ah 08:54 diemartin <-- 3D noob 08:54 RealBadAngel focus on things youre lookin at 08:54 reactor why have motion blur? 08:54 reactor your eyes do that for you already 08:54 RealBadAngel exactly how your eyes work 08:54 Calinou motion blur makes things feel smoother; some people like it; some don't 08:54 reactor why add it? 08:55 Calinou it's fine to have it, if it's not on by default 08:55 diemartin ah I see, so objects not "in focus" get blurred 08:55 Calinou TF2 motion blur is annoying IMO :P 08:55 reactor your eyes already do motion blur! 08:55 RealBadAngel because its easy, because we can 08:55 RealBadAngel and 3rd its an option 08:55 reactor but I agree your eyes don't do DOF to monitor 08:55 reactor so DOf is reasonable 08:55 reactor DOF* 08:56 RealBadAngel slight motion blur is also nice 08:56 RealBadAngel especially when fast moving 08:56 diemartin of course 08:56 diemartin also, FOV increase while running :3 08:56 diemartin (I have it implemented locally :P) 08:57 RealBadAngel fov changes should be also made 08:57 RealBadAngel there were a commit bout it before 08:57 incentive Ever since finding my timezone map I can know when people are most likely asleep or awake. Sweden is awake, part of the USA is asleep :D Missouri area is asleep :) 08:57 RealBadAngel about zoom 08:58 diemartin gameplay is good, but eye candy brings some freshness to the game 08:58 Calinou back, just did xubuntu updates 08:58 Calinou I now have chromium 28 :D 08:58 diemartin whenever I get bored, I start poking around the conf and sources to do silly stuff :P 08:58 RealBadAngel eye candies have two possible effects 08:59 RealBadAngel keep old players into 08:59 RealBadAngel and attract new ones 09:00 RealBadAngel in first case player says, damn my game keep lookin better and better 09:00 RealBadAngel in second, shit im gonna play it, it looks awesome 09:01 RealBadAngel thrid option are mentioned pharaos and pyramid builders. 09:01 diemartin feck no 09:01 reactor is there a way to make server textures? 09:01 * JamesTait just spent 15 minutes showing his 6-year-old how to git clone PilzAdam's nether mod. 09:01 diemartin reactor, server textures? 09:01 reactor Do I just place them in serverdir/textures/all? 09:02 RealBadAngel reactor, no 09:02 reactor yes, as in, custom textures server-wide 09:02 reactor at all? 09:02 reactor or should I use the mod framework? 09:02 RealBadAngel you shall replace textures in every mod your server serves 09:02 RealBadAngel so no one universal folder like on client side 09:03 diemartin .-. 09:03 reactor mk 09:03 RealBadAngel you have to replace textures in every /textures folder of each mod 09:03 reactor yep 09:04 RealBadAngel its kinda hard to maintain 09:04 diemartin mkdir -p dummymod/textures; for file in `find . -name '*.png'`; do mv "$file" dummymod/textures/; done touch dummymod/init.lua 09:04 reactor good 09:05 diemartin (that's also useful if you want to create a texturepack) 09:05 RealBadAngel but i think something like /textures/all for server shall also be implemented 09:06 reactor diemartin: I see... 09:06 reactor the server starts 09:07 reactor but doesn't seem to work 09:07 reactor the textures don't* 09:07 diemartin replace the textures in dummymod/textures/ with your own version 09:08 diemartin (with the same filenames as the originals) 09:08 RealBadAngel thats a no go 09:08 RealBadAngel it shall not be a move 09:08 RealBadAngel you can update mods 09:09 RealBadAngel theres a defined overriding folder for server needed 09:09 RealBadAngel just like for client 09:09 diemartin it's harder to keep track of textures in 164218 dirs 09:09 diemartin but you have a point 09:09 reactor a while ago I remember adding a texture pack in mods 09:09 reactor which replaced textures 09:10 RealBadAngel pain in the ass on server side 09:10 RealBadAngel imho such folder could be stored in world folder 09:11 RealBadAngel so user deciedes what textures to use 09:12 RealBadAngel create a world 09:12 RealBadAngel copy textures into it 09:12 PenguinDad !server players:most 09:12 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Clip Minetest server | 217.8.90.18:30001 | Clients: 7/12, 9 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.247 09:13 reactor mk 09:14 RealBadAngel settings: if not defined: look in world folder for /textures/all 09:14 RealBadAngel if defined: look for specific path 09:14 RealBadAngel if both failed use old mods way 09:23 reactor is there a way to freeze time? 09:24 nalkri Cover your clocks in LN₂ 09:24 RealBadAngel push and hold reset button 09:25 reactor in the map, I mean, 09:25 reactor so that I don't have to reset it every minute if I'm drawing something 09:25 reactor it's a nuisance to have time going in creative 09:26 Calinou /set time_speed 0 09:26 Calinou /set time_speed 72 09:27 nalkri Oh, that could be a basic seasons hack 09:27 nalkri Just change the speed at sunrise and sunset 09:28 MasterBot Hello 09:30 reactor hell.o 09:30 reactor Calinou: thank you 09:31 diemartin hell.o? are you providing object files? 09:31 reactor I'm not used to the fact the config contains more options than in Minecraft. 09:31 diemartin you should say hell.cpp 09:31 reactor :D 09:31 reactor no 09:31 reactor hell.o 09:31 reactor or 09:31 reactor well yes 09:32 reactor cxx -ohell.o hell.cpp -lm -llapack -lblas 09:33 diemartin -lm links Minetest's own true random number generator (LandMine) 09:33 Calinou hell.h 09:33 VanessaE sigh, can't sleep 09:33 diemartin mornings Vadtec 09:33 diemartin VanessaE, ^ 09:33 diemartin tab complete phail :P 09:35 reactor Why doesn't minetest window have WM_CLASS? 09:35 reactor I can't add it to floating quirks in my WM, and I need to toggle it manually everytime. 09:37 VanessaE good morning 09:41 PenguinDad Hello TheLastProject 09:41 TheLastProject Hi 09:43 VanessaE he speaks! :) 09:43 Calinou hi 09:57 MasterBot I need help with some images 09:59 Greenmy hi 09:59 Greenmy i'm italian 10:00 Greenmy can someone give me a hand to fill minetest fedora? 10:02 Calinou Greenmy: fill? 10:02 Calinou you mean install? 10:03 Calinou you can compile it 10:03 Calinou but well, this is fedora, you have to find the dependency names yourself 10:03 Greenmy sorry bad enghlish 10:04 Greenmy I can give you the output? 10:05 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com 10:05 Calinou pastebin it 10:05 GNADev|zRokh aye doods 10:05 GNADev|zRokh how ya been?! 10:05 Greenmy ok, one moment 10:06 Greenmy http://paste.ubuntu.com/5928444/ 10:07 Calinou yes, you have missing depdencies 10:07 Calinou dependencies* 10:07 Calinou you install them using "yum" 10:07 Greenmy tells me that irrlicht and others that are already installed 10:08 Calinou you need to install the development libraries 10:08 Calinou (usually suffixed with -dev) 10:08 Greenmy as libvorbis-dev? 10:09 PenguinDad or devel 10:09 Greenmy one moment 10:09 PenguinDad Greenmy yes 10:09 Greenmy devel o dev? 10:09 Calinou depends 10:10 GNADev|zRokh :/ nobody said hi to me back... :/ 10:10 Greenmy I try to install 10:14 nalkri Hi GNADev|zRokh 10:14 GNADev|zRokh yay, hi nalkri! 10:16 GNADev|zRokh https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99796#p99796 10:16 GNADev|zRokh vote! 10:16 GNADev|zRokh .-. 10:17 GNADev|zRokh k bye biggums, see ya in a week .-. 10:19 diemartin dafuq 10:22 VanessaE there, show that damn thing who's boss :-) 10:23 kaeza oh no she's back! 10:23 kaeza everyone hide! 10:23 kaeza what did you break this time V? :P 10:24 VanessaE nothing. a routine update in debian moved most /etc/fonts/conf.avail files over to /usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail, which broke my subpixel antialiasing filter. 10:25 VanessaE took a few mins to sort it out 10:25 * Calinou did xubuntu updates, hard to do an hard-reboot because system hung when rebooting the first time ._. 10:25 Calinou but it works fine now 10:26 kaeza ah you gotta love debian 10:26 kaeza or rather linux in general 10:27 VanessaE huh. is agetty still needed for Ctrl-Alt-Fx virtual consoles to work? 10:28 kaeza I still don't understand all that crap about what goes into /usr, what into /usr/local, /bin, /sbin, /opt, /var... 10:28 Calinou /bin: essential binaries, /usr/bin: less essential binaries 10:28 Calinou /opt: your stuff (empty by default) 10:28 Calinou /usr/local/bin: stuff installed by make install and such 10:29 Calinou /sbin: binaries run as root 10:29 kaeza ._. still a bit confusing, and not all distros follow that 10:30 Calinou like fedora :P 10:30 Calinou they have /lib32, /lib64 and that stuff 10:30 kaeza (Puppy for example likes to put DE-related stuff in /usr/local 10:30 kaeza ) 10:31 kaeza while 'buntu puts it in /usr 10:31 PenguinDad https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/193 <- Shall this be merged? 10:31 kaeza Puppy also puts normal programs into /usr/bin 10:31 kaeza err... /usr/sbin 10:32 kaeza (you always run as root by default on Puppy anyway) 10:33 PenguinDad kaeza That's bad. 10:34 kaeza It's meant to be "easy" for Linux newbies 10:34 PenguinDad and easy for hackers :P 10:34 kaeza no need to deal with multiple users, no need to switch to "Administrator" account, etc 10:35 kaeza just like in Win9X :P 10:36 kaeza but yes, "rm -fr /" does what you expect there :P 10:37 reactor is default_grass_footstep used? 10:38 kaeza nope 10:38 reactor good 10:39 VanessaE brb 10:39 kaeza meanwhile: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202013-06-29%2003%3A08%3A41.jpg 10:41 Exio4 i prefer the debian way for managing multlib system 10:42 PenguinDad Exio4: yeah debians way is very cool 10:43 thexyz kaeza: doesn't work what am i doing wrong? 10:43 reactor anyone got minecraft handy? 10:43 thexyz kaeza: [root@dev ~]# rm -fr / 10:43 thexyz rm: it is dangerous to operate recursively on ‘/’ 10:43 thexyz rm: use --no-preserve-root to override this failsafe 10:43 reactor can you upload me the default textures in a .tar? 10:44 PenguinDad thexyz: rm -rf --no-preserve-root / 10:45 reactor puppy linux is a cripple 10:45 reactor Use a real OS. 10:45 thexyz PenguinDad: thanks, it works now 10:45 PenguinDad xD 10:45 Exio4 reactor: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/751 10:46 reactor Cool. 10:47 Exio4 fwiw, did anyone told RBA about the "1.8 irrlicht fix"? 10:47 reactor Exio4: is it gonna be included in the next release? 10:47 reactor what is the fix? 10:48 Exio4 https://github.com/EXio4/minetest/commit/c1d4467a132c1ee5673dcbc774421aca571d168e 10:48 Exio4 it is shader(s) stuff 10:49 Exio4 the patch is not likely to get merged in the next release because "lacks" in copy-paste related stuff 10:49 reactor ah 10:49 reactor but there's no copypaste in the default either 10:50 reactor Exio4: may I include it in the package I'm preparing for NetBSD? 10:51 Exio4 there isn't in linux, but works under windows, that is 10:52 Exio4 i don't mind, if you have "rebase problems", tell me 10:56 VanessaE there, and now my consoles work again :-) 10:56 VanessaE (that time it was my fault) 11:02 reactor Exio4: mk 11:04 reactor Exio4: where can I see diffs between it and minetest release 0.4.7? 11:05 MasterBot !up minetest.org 11:06 MinetestBot minetest.org:30000 seems to be down 11:06 MasterBot Grr! 11:21 reactor What is "ticking entity" in Minecraft? 11:22 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:22 reactor Is the name related to the so-called "nerve tics"? 11:22 Calinou no 11:22 Calinou minecraft runs at 20 TPS 11:23 Calinou I have no idea what a ticking entity does... search engines are your friend 11:25 PenguinDad Hi PilzAdam, what do you think about my pull request? -> https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/193 11:27 PilzAdam PenguinDad, I dont like it 11:27 PilzAdam I dont like the glasslike_framed drawtype at all 11:27 kaeza wait wait wait 11:28 PilzAdam this can be easily dont as a external mod 11:28 kaeza that commit is not... right 11:28 Calinou suddenly: new_style_leaves and new_style_water 11:28 Calinou inb4 both are removed 11:28 Calinou oh, that setting is server-side 11:28 Calinou O_o 11:28 kaeza yup 11:29 PenguinDad PilzAdam: I know that it's not the best drawtype 11:36 VanessaE there, and now my console font is actually readable (terminus bold 22x11 on a 1280x1024 framebuffer) :P 11:36 VanessaE good thing I'm keeping a record of all these machinations. 11:37 PilzAdam VanessaE, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102891#p102891 11:38 Calinou >2013 >consoles 11:39 Calinou not only nvidia doesn't support native resolution consoles, I never use these. 11:39 Calinou :P 11:39 Exio4 reactor: add diff to commit links 11:39 VanessaE PilzAdam: deleted and banned. 11:39 VanessaE Calinou: I always like to have a regular console to fall back to if something just goes wonky 11:40 thexyz VanessaE: what was it? 11:40 reactor Exio4: ?! 11:40 reactor man, I only need unified diff files 11:40 VanessaE thexyz: eh? 11:40 Exio4 http://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/.diff 11:41 VanessaE oh, three totally offtopic, gibberish posts with a link to some damn gold thing in the signature. Seen it before. 11:41 webdesigner97 peacock? 11:41 PilzAdam Exio4, .patch is better, then you can use git am to preserve the author 11:42 Exio4 ah 11:42 Exio4 is it .patch? 11:42 Exio4 or does .diff work? :P 11:43 reactor ?! 11:43 reactor well, pkgsrc uses diff -u 11:43 reactor That's why I would like it if you sent them to me in that format, Exio4 11:44 reactor I'm fixing some irrlicht now, not much but I have to wait a lot while it compiles 11:44 Exio4 i'm not at home right now, but will in 5 hours 11:44 reactor mkay 11:44 reactor I'll wait till then 12:13 Semilevel Is there any way to rerender the lighting? It now looks like this http://i.imgur.com/LXxpD6G.jpg after I burned down some trees. 12:13 VanessaE use worldedit's "fixlight" command. 12:14 VanessaE just select an area big enough to encompass the entire zone with the bad lighting (fly to one corner, //pos1, fly to the other corner, //pos2), then do //fixlight 12:14 VanessaE most of the time, that'll fix it 12:14 VanessaE if that doesn't work, try again at a higher altitude. 12:15 Semilevel Ah, thanks. 12:15 VanessaE if that still doesn't work, spawn a big slab of sand or gravel 1 node thick, as wide and long as the bad lighting, make it fall, then select the area with the fallen gravel/sand and clean it up with //replace gravel air 12:19 incentive Is there any minetest server that you know of that has a teamspeak3/mumble server or chatroom? Wazuclan once had a teamspeak one but as I've read they no longer host any minetest server. 12:20 VanessaE I don't know of any 12:20 Calinou you can go to a public mumble 12:20 VanessaE when did wazuclan shut down? I thought I'd seen that one in the server list just yesterday 12:20 Calinou lots of them let you cteate channels 12:21 Calinou VanessaE: they renamed to LINUXGAMING.US 12:23 incentive I've opened a channel on one. 12:23 incentive regardless, I was asking if there was any teamspeak server or a mumble server, and it seems there is none. 12:23 Calinou nope 12:23 incentive maybe the community doesn't need one :D 12:24 reactor so 12:24 reactor wanna become a package maintainer for NetBSD, anyone? 12:24 Calinou nope.avi 12:24 reactor Meh. 12:24 incentive reactor, to create a minetest package for that system? 12:24 reactor yes, I've already done it 12:25 reactor I'm polishing it,then gonna send it to pkgsrc 12:25 incentive reactor, is it linked to from the site also? 12:25 reactor but I don't think I have enough knowledge/time to fix it later if it breaks 12:25 reactor incentive: I haven't yet sent it 12:25 reactor I'm preparing it, it'll be ready in a week or so 12:30 Calinou minetest reached 3000 commits 12:31 PilzAdam I just benchmarked vmanip vs. get_node for reading only and it seems that vmanip turns out useful for over 700 nodes with a speedup of 10ms (+-5) 12:33 VanessaE not m\uch of a change 12:33 VanessaE much* 12:37 VanessaE (but every little bit helps) 12:37 VanessaE speaking of little bits, I think I'll try to get a little bit of sleep.. 12:37 VanessaE bbl 12:57 reactor is it me or door textures are wrongly placed? 13:01 Exio4 http://r.xeonet.es:1050/listen.pls 13:01 Exio4 rrr 13:01 Exio4 http://dev.minetest.net/Engine_documentation 13:17 reactor Why do I have to rebuilt Minetest every time I change Irrlicht to see what I've done? 13:17 reactor Is is pottible to link dynamically? 13:18 reactor s/tt/ss/ 13:22 MasterBot HI 13:22 MasterBot Any mods that switch player texture by command 13:22 MasterBot ? 13:22 MasterBot Also best crafting guide as block? 13:22 MasterBot Which servers dont use inventory plus? 13:23 reactor ? 13:23 MasterBot '?'? 13:25 kaeza should be 13:26 kaeza maybe you are building Irrlicht as a static library? 13:26 reactor I don't know 13:26 reactor how do I know? 13:27 kaeza well, if you have libIrrlicht.a, then it's a static lib I guess 13:27 kaeza dunno 13:28 kaeza never tried compiling Irr myself 13:28 PilzAdam ehm 13:28 PilzAdam MasterBot, what do you do here? 13:28 reactor kaeza: libIrrlicht.a libIrrlicht.so 13:29 reactor .so is dynamic, right? 13:29 MasterBot Sit in a chair drinking and eating 13:29 kaeza yes 13:30 kaeza then Minetest may be using the .a instead of the .so 13:30 MasterBot PilzAdam: If you want me to use another nick then unban one of then 13:30 MasterBot *m 13:30 kaeza I don't recall which option you have to use for CMake to always use dylibs 13:31 kaeza lol is markv spamming again? 13:32 MasterBot Fuck you. 13:32 kaeza aww 13:32 kaeza and I just unignored you <3 13:32 * MasterBot bites kaeza 13:34 reactor -dynamic? 13:44 reactor z 13:58 hoodedice 3 hours to Starttest server... 14:05 hoodedice *Yawn* 14:20 Jordach hey all 14:22 PenguinDad Hi Jordach 14:25 Calinou hi 14:29 hoodedice yo 14:33 Jordach Calinou, movable eyes using bones 14:33 Jordach in other news: OpenShot for windows coming late autumn 14:34 Calinou use a VM :D 14:35 Jordach Calinou, http://i.imgur.com/25hvlRx.png 14:36 Jordach can i hear oh sweet jesus? (i know i need to be able to scale the pupils; eg scared expressions) 14:39 hoodedice lol 14:40 hoodedice I don't think we need that for now 14:40 Jordach hoodedice, this is for 3d animations, not ingame 14:40 hoodedice Oh, for that movie you're making...? 14:40 * Jordach nods 14:41 hoodedice Three hours to startest 14:41 hoodedice :/ 14:44 hoodedice UP ! 14:44 Calinou DOWN ¡ 14:45 hoodedice X) 14:45 PenguinDad !server players:most 14:45 MinetestBot PenguinDad: LandRush Server | 205.185.115.160:31000 | Clients: 12/15, 14 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.306 14:46 Jordach ^,^,V,V,<,>,<,>,B,A, START! 14:51 PenguinDad LandRush Server: Access denied reason too many users. 14:51 hoodedice BUG : Startest, everything is grey 14:53 Calinou >too many users 14:53 Calinou never got this error in minetest :D 14:53 proller its good error 14:53 hoodedice good error? 14:54 proller best error for minetest 14:54 Jordach possible* 14:55 hoodedice 5 players is a lot... 14:55 webdesigner97 hi again 14:55 Calinou hoodedice: suddenly: hivemc.eu 14:55 Calinou 8500 player MC server 14:56 hoodedice Dafudge? 14:56 hoodedice That's MC 14:56 hoodedice This is MT 14:56 hoodedice (beta) 14:56 webdesigner97 while playing around with my desktop, I found out that the minetest icon doesn't support all icon sizes (e.g. 256px). So I made an icon file with all icon sizes: 14:57 hoodedice *Down* 14:57 Calinou or just use SVGs 14:57 Calinou hoodedice: MT isn't beta 14:57 hoodedice (alpha) 14:57 webdesigner97 https://www.dropbox.com/s/zull09urvxgpva3/minetest.ico 14:58 Calinou not alpha 14:58 Calinou >.ico 14:58 hoodedice (testing) 14:58 hoodedice (indev) 14:58 Calinou no 14:58 NekoGloop (broken as hell) 14:58 Calinou no 14:59 MasterBot Hi 14:59 webdesigner97 And here are its formats: http://im.bilderkiste.org/6137519632536/sizes.PNG 14:59 webdesigner97 hi 14:59 hoodedice OH I KNOW! 14:59 MasterBot Is there Am MTEdit? 14:59 hoodedice (0.4.7) 14:59 hoodedice :P 14:59 Calinou MasterBot: no 14:59 Calinou why? 14:59 MasterBot MCedit lags like hell 14:59 MasterBot MTedit would be simpler because minetest uses a lighter 3d engine 14:59 Calinou lag != low fps 14:59 Calinou no 15:00 Calinou MCedit doesn't even use MC rendering code 15:00 MasterBot I mean; Dont Use Python! 15:00 MasterBot Minetest has a more intelligent community :P 15:00 webdesigner97 :D 15:00 hoodedice -.- 15:00 MasterBot managed to port mtmapper 15:00 hoodedice [citation needed] 15:02 kahrl hoodedice: minecraft has a much larger community. since most people have negative intelligence, this implies that minecraft's community is less intelligent 15:02 kahrl [original research] 15:02 MasterBot +1 15:03 bas080 quality vs quantity 15:03 hoodedice Lawl 15:05 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/kFqUpXu.png 15:05 Jordach i thought something was missing 15:05 hoodedice Sam's like 'wut'? 15:06 Calinou sam looking at me playing TF2 as spy 15:06 PenguinDad Does Sam use drugs? 15:07 Jordach PenguinDad, Calinou, hoodedice: the bones are not set on rest postion yet, hold on 15:08 Jordach did you know; the model im using isnt stu's player model; i used Taoki[laptop]'s as a base 15:08 PilzAdam *ass 15:08 PilzAdam :-p 15:09 hoodedice ? 15:09 PilzAdam hoodedice, just my usual attempt to be funny 15:10 Jordach didnt work; like Calinou's sapper 15:11 NekoGloop except for the fact that you only described yourself 15:11 Jordach 15:11 Jordach brb 15:11 hoodedice rofl 15:19 bas080 I am requesting a topic move to Game section https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6636 15:20 Jordach bas080, checking then moving 15:20 Jordach hello KikaRz 15:20 bas080 Jordach, ty 15:21 Jordach i found a post error, correcting for you 15:22 PilzAdam Jordach, I do not want that you edit any of my posts if I havent violated the forum rules 15:22 Jordach PilzAdam, i wouldnt touch your posts with a X11 pointer 15:23 Jordach bas080, the GitHub link didn't help as i couldnt find "download" 15:23 bas080 Jordach, on it 15:24 PilzAdam Jordach, at the right 15:24 Jordach PilzAdam, i meant Download / GitHub subheading 15:25 bas080 Jordach, download link and github link are now working 15:26 Jordach bas080, i realised i binned the old link D: 15:26 bas080 I don't mind having a different link 15:26 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?id=15 15:27 Jordach OCD is now moved :) 15:27 bas080 Jordach, very nice. 15:29 PenguinDad Can this be moved into mod releases? -> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6649 15:29 Peacock deer lord, we have an *active* moderator :-) 15:29 Peacock between the lot we had i think only V and calinou were still active :P 15:30 Peacock (and sfan) 15:31 Peacock theres a ton of mods in /general with several thousand views that could prolly use a move :-) 15:32 NekoGloop except herpderp non-open licenses can't be in mod releases 15:32 Peacock along with all my old mod threads where the img and dl links were broken, those can go :p 15:32 Peacock paramats' mods arent oss? 15:32 VanessaE hi all. 15:34 reactor why the hell are door textures displaced?! 15:34 Peacock ask the deer lord (and his wise antlers) 15:34 Calinou ask your CPU 15:34 Peacock lol 15:34 Peacock were helpful today, now servin #8 15:39 PenguinDad Ask Octobi Wan Catnobi :P 15:40 Jordach a proper render: http://i.imgur.com/olPmeNO.png 15:40 Jordach compare that to Pavel's Sam model 15:41 proller after using hardcore mese tnt ? 15:42 PenguinDad Jordach: looks good 15:43 Jordach PenguinDad, I just need to make a working mouth 15:44 marktraceur reactor: Can you take a screenshot of what you're seeing that you don't expect? 15:48 VanessaE bbl 15:48 reactor ? 15:48 reactor marktraceur: yes 15:52 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzp_T_Zsyt4 15:53 PilzAdam !title 15:53 MinetestBot PilzAdam: [波音リツキレ音源 x 巡音ルカ] The Happiness and Peace of Mind Committee - YouTube 15:54 reactor marktraceur: the link is not permanent 15:54 marktraceur reactor: OK, what part of that is unexpected? 15:56 reactor marktraceur: the textures 15:56 reactor they're shifted by one-two pixels 15:56 reactor the door 15:57 marktraceur reactor: I see the door, but I don't know what you mean by shifted 15:57 reactor look at the doors placed in different directions 15:57 marktraceur Aha. 15:58 reactor some dirctions work corretly, some not 15:59 marktraceur reactor: I would suggest uploading that image to somewhere less temporary like imgur.com or mg.viewskew.com, then report a bug 16:00 reactor Well, I'm working on another bug already. 16:00 PilzAdam reactor, can you show me the screenshot? 16:02 Exio4 hi 16:03 KikaRz What's wrong here? https://paste.moepl.eu/view/89bdd891 16:03 PilzAdam KikaRz, what language is that? 16:03 KikaRz LUA 16:04 Jordach Lua* 16:04 PilzAdam what do you want to print? 16:04 KikaRz ○_○ 16:05 KikaRz thirdvar 16:05 emerge O_o 16:06 PilzAdam http://pastebin.com/jw6EjWP5 16:06 emerge Change print{"thirdvar"}, into print(var["thirdvar"]), 16:06 PilzAdam emerge, wrong 16:06 emerge Ah 16:06 PilzAdam emerge, that would only work in a single dimensional table (like in my pastebin) 16:07 emerge *print(vars["thirdvar"]), 16:07 PilzAdam KikaRz, if you want to keep your table structure then print(vars[3][2]) 16:07 KikaRz don't confuse me more plz 16:07 emerge Sorry. 16:08 KikaRz PilzAdam, not that 16:08 Exio4 lol 16:08 KikaRz I wanted first+second 16:09 PilzAdam KikaRz, basically your table structure is wrong; you use integers as index, but it seems like you want to use strings 16:09 KikaRz can you send me that? 16:09 PilzAdam http://pastebin.com/jw6EjWP5 16:10 KikaRz but I dont want already fused 16:10 KikaRz I want first+second 16:11 KikaRz if I change first var, I dont want to change third 16:11 PilzAdam http://pastebin.com/QUURrL8S 16:12 KikaRz the .. adds first to second? 16:13 PilzAdam it appends the second string to the first one 16:13 KikaRz ok 16:14 PilzAdam you could also do vars.first .. " " .. vars.second , vars.third would be "foo bar" then 16:14 KikaRz ok ok 16:15 KikaRz Thxs. 16:15 KikaRz How I execute this ? 16:16 PilzAdam in Minetest or in normal Lua interpreter? 16:16 KikaRz Lua interpreter 16:16 PilzAdam what OS? 16:17 emerge Anyway, is there a way to register flowing liquid with drawtype set to liquid and not to crash minetest? 16:17 KikaRz windows. 16:17 PilzAdam emerge, see default mod 16:18 emerge PilzAdam, there no such thing there. 16:18 PilzAdam KikaRz, ummm.... whats the equivalent of "lua << yourfile.lua" in windows cmd? 16:18 KikaRz dunno. 16:19 PilzAdam emerge, well, https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/nodes.lua#L411 16:19 KikaRz C:\users\lol\> lua << file.lua 16:19 PilzAdam KikaRz, maybe lua yourfile.lua works 16:19 KikaRz << was expected at this time. 16:19 KikaRz 'lua' is not recognized as an internal or external command. 16:20 emerge For example, if you combine drawtype = "source" and liquidtype = "liquid", minetest will crash. 16:20 emerge PilzAdam, ^ 16:20 PilzAdam emerge, there is no thing likie "liquidtype = "liquid"", the only liquidtypes that are availible are "none", "flowing" and "source" 16:20 PilzAdam *like 16:21 PilzAdam KikaRz, you have to install Lua first, of course 16:21 KikaRz link? 16:21 emerge I mean "flowing". 16:21 KikaRz oh, found 16:21 KikaRz how to install it? 16:22 MasterBot !up marktwain.no-ip.org 16:22 MinetestBot marktwain.no-ip.org:30000 seems to be down 16:23 Exio4 KikaRz: you shouldn't be asking that stuff if you want to learn lua 16:23 emerge KikaRz, http://code.google.com/p/luaforwindows/downloads/list 16:23 KikaRz done 16:24 KikaRz Exio4 found the third point of my objective 16:24 MasterBot !up marktwain.sytes.net 16:24 MinetestBot marktwain.sytes.net:30000 is up (384ms) 16:25 MasterBot there we go... 16:25 MasterBot 2GB map is definitely good 16:31 Exio4 http://opensource.com/law/13/7/fantec-german-foss-compliance 16:31 oxenfreedan hi everyone 16:31 PilzAdam hey oxenfreedan 16:32 oxenfreedan did you look up any pics of cyro linux 16:32 oxenfreedan cylon* 16:34 oxenfreedan btw what is todays theme? 16:44 hoodedice back 16:45 NekoGloop today's theme is kittens 16:46 Peacock i love kitchens, and cheap double-glazing 16:46 Peacock my new place has an island counter (as opposed to the counter here which is smaller than an MT node lol) 16:47 DanDuncombe VanessaE, have you updated so that blue hovercrafts don't use the green camo texture? 16:47 hoodedice Kittens? 16:47 NekoGloop kittens~ 16:47 hoodedice nyan.cat 16:48 hoodedice NYANANYNANANYANANYANANAYNANAYYANNANA Nya nya 16:48 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on hoodedice's head 16:48 * Calinou removes kitten, puts pony 16:48 DanDuncombe I found my first nyan cat today, with 11 rainbows above a lava pool. 16:49 * NekoGloop shoots the pony with a harpoon 16:50 PilzAdam the pony blocks it with her hoof 16:51 Jordach http://24.media.tumblr.com/50681a805561cd8fd0e0391a9de24467/tumblr_menghmmr3I1qbvaf3o1_500.gif 16:51 * PenguinDad snipes the pony with a rifle. 16:52 NekoGloop Oi, that's my rifle. 16:52 NekoGloop I have to move my weapons bunker now 16:54 webdesigner97 hi 16:55 Peacock !server:players 16:55 Peacock how does that work again? 16:56 emerge PilzAdam, again with drawtypes. This code, for instance, wouldn't work: http://pastebin.com/F14YHDVZ 16:56 NekoGloop !help 16:56 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md 16:56 PilzAdam !server players:most 16:56 MinetestBot PilzAdam: Startest | 205.236.123.109 | Clients: 14/100, 14 | Version: 0.4.6 | ping: 0.223 16:56 hoodedice Adam in Startest YAAAAAAAAAAAAYyy 16:56 Peacock im going to need more admins lol 16:56 NekoGloop There's player caps now? 16:57 Jordach NekoGloop, it's the master server being a dick 16:57 PilzAdam hoodedice, hm? 16:57 Peacock not the same adam i tihnk :P 16:57 PilzAdam emerge, yes, the drawtpye "liquid" only works if liquidtype is "source" 16:57 Peacock PilzAdam came on as PilzAdam not adam 16:57 PilzAdam I am not on any MT server currently 16:58 hoodedice hmm 16:58 emerge PilzAdam, thank you then. 16:58 hoodedice Ya, but PilzAdam is a long name to type, what with all the capital P and A 16:58 PilzAdam emerge, and "flowingliquid" only works if liquidtype is "flowing" 16:58 Peacock i got people speaking spanish, brazilian and german lol 16:59 emerge PilzAdam, btw, is this considered as a bug? 16:59 hoodedice :) 16:59 hoodedice I'll speak french then :P 16:59 PilzAdam emerge, no, its an assertion() in the code 16:59 emerge PilzAdam, what does this mean& 16:59 PilzAdam Peacock, you do realise that about 1/3 of the Minetest community is german? 16:59 emerge *? 17:00 hoodedice (Including PilzAdam) 17:00 hoodedice Server is la....gg....ing 17:00 reactor Why does Minetest have no /who command? 17:00 PilzAdam emerge, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assertion_%28computing%29 17:00 reactor How do I see who is connected? 17:01 NekoGloop /list 17:01 Peacock of course what i mean is i cant understand what most of them say/ask me lol 17:01 NekoGloop oh, wait, /status 17:01 NekoGloop wrong game. 17:01 PilzAdam emerge, basically the programmer knows that weird bugs would happen if the condition is false, thus he properly shuts down the program to avoid bugs 17:03 emerge PilzAdam, and how does that connects with liquids? 17:03 NekoGloop because they can't code right 17:03 emerge :3 17:03 PilzAdam emerge, there is an assert(liquidtype == LIQUID_FLOWING) if you use the drawtype "flowingliquid" 17:04 emerge Ok… 17:05 emerge PilzAdam, so, this might work in future releases? 17:06 PilzAdam ehm 17:06 NekoGloop Now, why can't we have a liquid that doesn't flow? 17:06 NekoGloop Or, liquid physics in non-liquid blocks 17:07 PilzAdam NekoGloop, liquid_range = 0 currently spawns flowingliquids arround the source, that could be patched away so you could have non-flowing liquids 17:07 emerge NekoGloop, second will look cool with dirt. 17:07 NekoGloop I was thinking quicksand, yes. 17:08 emerge yeah... 17:10 emerge But there is a crutch a way to disable liquid physics. Simply don't write liquid_alternative_flowing. 17:18 DanDuncombe HY GIYS! 17:18 Jordach hey DanDuncombe 17:18 Calinou hi 17:18 DanDuncombe Anyone got any mod improvement ideas for any ofmy mods? 17:19 Jordach ^ someone who doesnt abandon mods gets my vote 17:19 Jordach DanDuncombe, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102908#p102908 17:19 DanDuncombe Some are pointless like my metal light mod. 17:20 DanDuncombe Aw! Why is he so sad? 17:20 Jordach DanDuncombe, this is how powerful my custom Sam II model is 17:20 DanDuncombe You should make a gamemode. 17:20 Jordach i'm finishing the mouth, eg teeth, lips etc 17:21 Jordach the one seen sticking out is a placeholder 17:21 DanDuncombe Does anyone know how to improve my camo mod? Don't say anything to do with turrets. 17:22 hoodedice *Yawn* Startest is too laggy. Much be due to distance 17:22 hoodedice (Real world distance) 17:22 Jordach Pavel_S' model doesn't seem as good as my custom Sam model@ http://s24.postimg.org/4an2jig3p/render_Minetest2.png 17:22 hoodedice Later 17:23 hoodedice Yes, Jordach, it isn't as good 17:23 hoodedice In fact, it is actually better 17:23 hoodedice BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN 17:23 DanDuncombe He added a background. 17:23 Jordach he uses Inverse Kinetics; I don't 17:23 DanDuncombe Maybe, Jordach, if you could add scenery to your renders. 17:23 NekoGloop meow 17:23 Calinou hoodedice: lag != low fps 17:23 Jordach btw - mine can be used ingame with correctly added keyframes ;) 17:24 Jordach because it's Taoki[laptop]'s model with a twist 17:24 hoodedice !Calinou LAG 17:24 hoodedice Of around 3 minutes 17:24 hoodedice FPS is 60 17:25 Jordach huh, this LCD panel i have has 5ms delay 17:25 hoodedice (Multiplayer) 17:25 Peacock its prolly lagging cuz there are 13 logged on right now :P 17 earlier 17:25 hoodedice Ya 17:25 Peacock and not nearly enough chat history to catch everything lol 17:25 hoodedice This morning, there were 3 17:25 hoodedice and like 30 seconds lag 17:25 Peacock things are usually quieter lol 17:25 hoodedice 15 MBPS apparently is not enough :P 17:26 Peacock 15mbps? 17:26 hoodedice ya 17:26 hoodedice dload 17:26 Peacock who has 15mbps? 17:26 hoodedice I have 17:26 Peacock ok cuz i think i just have 6mbps 17:26 hoodedice But I'm like literally on the other side of the world 17:26 hoodedice (REAL_WORLD) 17:27 Peacock im in Quebec so what would be on the other side? 17:27 hoodedice Hmm, Moscow? 17:27 Peacock well that's norther hemisphere 17:27 hoodedice Middle East? 17:28 Peacock id bet australia is pretty much on the other side 17:28 hoodedice Middle East. 17:28 hoodedice Nah, close enough 17:28 Peacock lol 17:28 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on Calinou's head 17:28 hoodedice Later 17:28 Peacock though sometimes geoip gives my location as miami lol 17:28 Peacock lates 17:28 DanDuncombe Is there a way of making a node that always has a certain entity above it? If the enitity is removed, it places another. 17:29 * Calinou removes kitten 17:34 Peacock whats a good player # cap for 6mbps dsl connections? 17:35 Calinou Peacock: 6mbps actual up speed? 17:35 Peacock up im not sure 17:35 Peacock probably less 17:36 Calinou speedtest.net 17:36 Peacock i got complaints of lag between 15~18 players 17:36 Peacock so maybe 14 max 17:46 DanDuncombe Who thinks camo hovercrafts should be considered solar powered, and so have a solar panel texture on each side. 17:47 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/UoZLSK6.png :) 17:48 Jordach my model is ready for animations 17:48 DanDuncombe Lol mouth 17:48 Jordach and voxel teeth :) 17:48 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Add support for setting stepheight for entities 251e3e01c7 2013-07-30T10:48:02-07:00 http://git.io/hAL2MQ 18:04 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/pYZqrIJ.png 18:04 Calinou lol 18:04 Calinou he looks like he unzipped his pants 18:05 webdesigner97 :D 18:05 PilzAdam Calinou, *she 18:05 PilzAdam her name is Fiola 18:06 Jordach PilzAdam, you should go to Nazia 18:06 Calinou -ENOTFUN 18:06 Jordach "nah-zee-ah" 18:07 webdesigner97 I on_mapgen_init called only once when map is loaded first or every time a new chunk is generated? 18:07 PilzAdam once 18:08 webdesigner97 perfect 18:08 webdesigner97 thx 18:32 Jordach i had three posts that needed to be merged; https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102918#p102918 18:32 Jordach (well, someone else's, but three in a row is excessive) 18:35 Peacock webdesigner97 making the map now 18:37 webdesigner07 is minetest.place_schematic() included in your menufixes3 build, PilzAdam? 18:37 PilzAdam yes 18:38 PilzAdam you can see that in the commit log too 18:38 webdesigner07 I'm not good at those github features ;) 18:38 PilzAdam its not a github feature 18:40 Peacock github interface designers are prolly the same guys that did blenders' :p 18:41 NekoGloop You mean, the new one? 18:41 NekoGloop The old interface was just fine... 18:41 DanDuncombe How can I do a git commit if netiher the shell nor gui work? 18:41 Peacock its a little better than the old one, but not by much lol 18:42 PilzAdam DanDuncombe, I still think that its not a software problem 18:42 DanDuncombe How canI git commit from the git command line?Exact commands please. 18:43 PilzAdam -> #git 18:43 DanDuncombe What next? 18:44 NekoGloop The new one is shit... 18:44 NekoGloop unless, of course, they changed it 18:44 DanDuncombe What command next? 18:44 NekoGloop Nope. 18:44 NekoGloop The old one with all the stuff up in one centralized bar was better 18:44 Peacock i know complicated designs are meant ot make people feel le3t, but still :p 18:45 DanDuncombe Which command should I type in next? 18:45 NekoGloop I'd understand this one if the sidebar scrolled with the window. 18:45 PilzAdam DanDuncombe, that wasnt a command, I told you to join the #git channel and ask for help there 18:45 DanDuncombe Oh 18:46 DanDuncombe Wow. Found the solution.Delete a mod, commit. Re-add it,commit. All works fine. 18:47 DanDuncombe Wait... 18:47 DanDuncombe It won'tcommit with that mod installed. ????? 18:48 Peacock he told you to ask #git 18:48 Peacock why would you get a different answer the 2nd or 3rd time? 18:49 DanDuncombe I will try seperating the mods in the offending modpack... Which happens to be one of my modpacks... Ahem. 18:49 Peacock (someone should sticky a git FAQ/tutorial on forums) 18:49 * DanDuncombe is slightly embarassed that his own stuff seems to be causing the problem. 18:50 webdesigner07 gtg now 18:50 webdesigner07 bye all :) 18:51 Jordach made a 80 frame render of my model walking: http://www.mediafire.com/download/2xyizcyd3aopf3y/0000-0080.avi 18:51 DanDuncombe FINALLY. Note to self: Github doesn't like modpacks. 18:52 DanDuncombe That is, games with modpacks. 18:52 NekoGloop I don't want to download it 18:52 NekoGloop I want to view it 18:55 * Jordach re-uploads 18:58 Jordach http://mg.viewskew.com/u/jordach/m/blender-render-test-1/ 18:58 bas080 I have minetest reference in a well watched youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO2Wc9FEnUg 18:58 DanDuncombe Who thinks me maintaining the camo modpack wiki is a good iea? 18:58 DanDuncombe *idea 19:00 bas080 top comment, oyeah! 19:00 DanDuncombe Where? 19:00 DanDuncombe Oh,I see. I voted up too. 19:01 PenguinDad !op 19:01 Calinou bas080: you forgot to say "karma pls" 19:02 LAD hello every one 19:02 MinetestBot PenguinDad: nope.api 19:02 DanDuncombe Blah 19:02 PilzAdam ^ sfan5 MinetestBot has a typo :-p 19:02 PenguinDad Hello LAD 19:02 Jordach PenguinDad, i can !op, you cant :) 19:02 LAD hello PenguinDad 19:03 IceCraft !op 19:03 Jordach !op 19:03 Jordach >:D 19:03 IceCraft :o 19:03 PilzAdam !deop Jordach 19:03 Jordach i can do that too 19:03 IceCraft heks 19:03 IceCraft !op 19:03 Peacock ~queenofsummertime 19:03 NekoGloop !kitten 19:03 IceCraft !owner 19:03 Peacock didn't work 19:03 IceCraft aw 19:04 NekoGloop We need a !kitten command 19:04 DanDuncombe Is a game that is 9.98mb big or small? 19:04 Jordach quite small 19:04 NekoGloop !kitten NekoGloop 19:04 Peacock 10mb dl for every player that logs on 19:04 Peacock people timeout the first time at 3.8mb for my game 19:04 * MinetestBot puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head 19:04 Calinou PilzAdam: wolfgame? 19:04 NekoGloop :3 19:04 * LAD dances 19:04 Calinou too late 19:04 * DanDuncombe puts a kitten in a basket. 19:05 * sokomine picks up the basket and places it in one of her houses 19:05 PilzAdam Calinou, Ill wait 19:05 * DanDuncombe asks what sokomine will pay for it? 19:05 * LAD takes Dan's kitten because it's so cute 19:05 Peacock though the timeout should be way upped and the screen should show some kind of d/l time remaining 19:05 sokomine for a kitten? in this channel? you get a reward if you take one away :-) 19:06 * DanDuncombe snatces it back and strokes it. 19:06 DanDuncombe *snatches it 19:06 DanDuncombe Is MasterBot there? 19:06 * LAD takes it back and strokes it than sais my presus 19:06 Peacock beeeeanned 19:06 * DanDuncombe wallops LAD and saves the kitten. 19:08 * NekoGloop snatches the kitten from Dan 19:08 pitriss VanessaE: I want to ask: Is possible to fix somehow toilet flushing sound in homedecor mod? that can be heard in whole server (on landrush.bremaweb.com) 19:08 PilzAdam DanDuncombe, MasterBot is banned 19:08 Calinou lol, that can be fun 19:08 sokomine oh? where too many kittens disposed off? quick, breed some new ones! 19:08 Calinou markveidemanis, getting banned since 2012® 19:09 DanDuncombe PilzAdam,in my zombies mod if you put only_peaceful_mobs in the minetest.conf, no zombies will spawn. Is that correct? 19:09 Megaf Folks, the server was running just fine here till my server crashed because of a missbehaving software, now the minetest server wont start anymore, http://paste.debian.net/20324/ 19:09 PilzAdam DanDuncombe, if you havent deleted that part of the simple mobs API 19:10 Megaf I tried in different computers, using the same world, mods and conf files 19:10 DanDuncombe Good. 19:10 Megaf same error 19:10 Megaf if I use another world, it works 19:11 DanDuncombe Does it need to have a =trueor =1 PilzAdam? 19:11 DanDuncombe *=true or 19:12 svuorela is there some way to get wheat to grow faster ? 19:13 sokomine bribe pilzadam to make it grow faster again 19:13 sokomine apart from that, wet soil and a lot of light ought to help 19:13 Peacock code fertilizer :P 19:14 svuorela Peacock: I was hoping it already existed 19:15 sokomine on the kingarthur server, there is some fertilizer. at least on the testserver 19:15 Peacock spray bottle tool -> turn farm soil to fertilized farm soil (or just use meta int fertilizer=1 19:15 Peacock ) 19:16 Jordach can this post be locked and deleted? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4039 19:16 Peacock necrolocking? 19:16 Peacock its old, 19:16 Peacock who cares lol 19:17 Megaf here the problem got something to do with a file inside the players folder 19:18 Megaf I moved the players folder and the server started 19:18 Peacock besides he comes and goes, might as well keep the same thread to post all the anouncements in :p 19:18 sokomine maybe one of the playerfiles lost some data (playerargsend or something like that) 19:21 DylanCl Hi. Sorry for asking, but how can I download tewturepacks? 19:21 Megaf sokomine, shouldnt it show me any clue? 19:22 DanDuncombe DylanCl: Click the download button 19:22 DylanCl DanDuncombe: there is no download button.. 19:23 DanDuncombe Which one do you want? 19:23 DanDuncombe Give the url 19:23 DylanCl Sphax 19:23 DylanCl http://minetest.net/_detail/scr_spbdc_mt04.png?id=texturepacks 19:23 Calinou you download it, then you extract it, then you put the "textures" directory in your minetest directory 19:23 Calinou that is, for properly packaged packs 19:23 DylanCl I can't see/find the download button for it 19:24 DanDuncombe Click the download button just below picture 19:24 DanDuncombe It is at the bottom of the webpage that then opens. 19:24 reactor Why does worldedit remove the block if I punch it when //p sel is enabled? 19:24 reactor (creative mode, oneclick) 19:24 DylanCl I don't see it? 19:25 DanDuncombe I will give you the link. 19:25 Calinou don't use oneclick, it is likely to conflict 19:25 Jordach DylanCl, use the forum link 19:25 DanDuncombe The 256x256 download. http://adf.ly/564553/stbdc-256-mt04 19:26 DylanCl Alright, thanks! 19:26 DylanCl Another thing, is there a way to change the controls from wsad to qzsd? 19:27 Calinou DylanCl: yes, in the controls menu 19:27 Calinou Settings > Change Keys 19:27 DylanCl Oh sorry, didn't look at the controls before joining a server 19:27 DylanCl Asking real noob questions here... :P 19:27 Megaf PilzAdam, any idea how to track down whats causing this? I believe is some player file on the players folder http://paste.debian.net/20324/ 19:28 PilzAdam Megaf, run that world in a latest git version of the engine once, it tells you which file is corrupted 19:29 Megaf PilzAdam, the one from here? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tarball/master 19:29 PilzAdam yes 19:30 DanDuncombe Wow. That was lucky. I found an Industry Corp. Crate(zombies_game) and it gave me a mese sword. 19:32 Calinou Industry Co. Supply Crate 19:32 * Calinou buys a key 19:32 * Calinou opens 19:32 * Calinou finds a Strange Wood Sword! 19:32 Calinou SO MUCH BETTER THAN MY DIAMOND SWORD 19:33 Megaf so, now its added some good debug system 19:34 PilzAdam Calinou, sadly there are too many kids playing wofflegame 19:38 Jordach wafflegame* 19:38 Megaf PilzAdam, building it, hope it works 19:39 DanDuncombe Who thinks zombies is too hard? 19:40 DanDuncombe Also, in an abm, is there any way of making it apply to all nodes registered, without listing them all? 19:41 PilzAdam that would crash Minetest 19:42 DanDuncombe It would be for spawning mobs. 19:42 DanDuncombe To say that they spawn on everything. 19:43 ShadowNinja First time I have seen glitches like this: http://imgur.com/wZFX3rc,i3G1mtK (There are two screenshots) 19:43 meldrian bye bye minetester 19:45 DanDuncombe Is there a solution to the abm? 19:45 PilzAdam its simply insane to run an ABM on all nodes 19:45 DanDuncombe This would be the code to change: http://pastebin.com/bxs6aSqC 19:46 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Do you know what those glitches might be caused by? 19:46 DanDuncombe Or should I just add stone and a couple of other things? 19:46 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, whats the server version and the client version? 19:49 Megaf PilzAdam, 16:49:16: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Player::deSerialize(): PlayerArgsEnd of player "BENJAGAMER777" not found 19:49 DanDuncombe Is this a correct change? minetest.env: to minetest. 19:50 Megaf PilzAdam, so thats who causing the problem 19:50 PilzAdam yes, go to the players/ folder in the world and look at the file 19:51 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Client is very recent, server is 0.4.7. 19:51 Megaf PilzAdam, there is nothing in that file, I will delete it 19:51 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, there is a compatibility issue with water between new client and old server 19:51 PilzAdam Megaf, yep 19:51 ShadowNinja Yep, just reproduced it with water. 19:52 reactor does player_textures support full-blown player skins? 19:52 reactor like character.png? 19:52 Calinou yes 19:52 reactor good 19:52 Calinou both 3D and 2D iirc 19:52 DanDuncombe Is a torch light level 14? 19:53 Jordach you want the one by sdzen, as PilzAdam's doesn't work with the 3d player 19:53 DanDuncombe And should zombies only spawn under, say light level 10? 19:53 reactor Jordach: I realise 19:53 Jordach https://github.com/sdzen/player_textures 19:53 Jordach !title 19:53 MinetestBot Jordach: sdzen/player_textures · GitHub 19:53 reactor I see that zdzen's one is minecraft-compatible 19:53 Jordach reactor, i have some skins availible, and you can request them 19:54 reactor meh, I do already have some :D 19:54 PilzAdam Jordach, sdzen just provided a patch for my mod, and I thought it would be best to keep them seperated 19:54 PilzAdam so it isnt exactly "his" 19:54 Megaf PilzAdam, it seem likes there are several player files corrupted 19:54 PilzAdam Megaf, yes, that happens 19:55 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6270 19:55 reactor wait a sec 19:55 Jordach reactor, see my link 19:55 reactor I replaced the mods' textures with mine 19:55 reactor and they don't show up 19:55 reactor players say blocks look default 19:56 PilzAdam have you restarted the server? 19:56 reactor Jordach: good skins 19:57 DanDuncombe PilzAdam: When it is night time, what is the light level? When no torches are placed, in open ground. 19:57 PilzAdam dunno 19:58 Calinou 4 I guess 19:58 Megaf PilzAdam, any way to get the players stuff back? 19:58 Megaf some people will not be happy 19:58 PilzAdam Megaf, from a map backup 19:59 DanDuncombe Does anyone think more zombies should be added to zombies_game? 20:01 Megaf PilzAdam, more than a 100 players affected, how could that happen? How a file just goes blank? 20:01 PilzAdam thats a deeper rooted issue in Minetest 20:01 Megaf PilzAdam, you are one of the players affected 20:02 PilzAdam Minetest currently just writes the file directly, the proper way would be to write to a buffer and then copy the file 20:02 Megaf so is celeron55 20:02 PilzAdam what server? 20:03 Megaf PilzAdam, Megaf Server (megaf.no-ip.info) you came there once or twice 20:03 PilzAdam I dont really play on any servers 20:06 bows hi 20:06 VanessaE DanDuncombe: yes, camo and hovercrafts are up-to-date (green camo vs. blue), at least to that point. 20:06 bows ive just started playing 20:06 VanessaE *skims rest of scrollback... tl;dr* 20:07 VanessaE hi all 20:07 PilzAdam hey V 20:07 Calinou hi 20:08 reactor is there a third person view? 20:08 PilzAdam reactor, go on a server with >= 3 players 20:08 PilzAdam then you can look at the third one 20:08 Megaf ERROR[ServerThread]: Serverlist at url servers.minetest.net error (Timeout was reached) 20:09 Megaf whats that now? 20:09 reactor PilzAdam: good point 20:09 VanessaE Megaf: that happens to me also 20:09 PilzAdam Megaf, client or server? 20:09 Megaf PilzAdam, server 20:09 Megaf but at least I can see my server listed 20:10 DanDuncombe Does anyone have a good alarm/siren nodebox shape? 20:11 Exio4 damn 20:11 Exio4 missed RBA 20:19 bows vanessa do i need mods for your server ? 20:19 DanDuncombe No 20:19 DanDuncombe You don't 20:20 DanDuncombe But you need the very latest github. 20:20 VanessaE bows: no. same is true for all minetest servers, regarding mods 20:20 PilzAdam bows, mods are generally server side, the client doesnt need anythig 20:20 bows 0.4.7 ? 20:20 Exio4 latest git *minetest* 20:20 VanessaE regarding which version you run, that depends on the server, some still need old versions - mine requires a git build no older than July 22. 20:20 VanessaE http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.7-ff7c380-win32.7z 20:20 VanessaE this, for example 20:21 Jordach five bucks user doesnt have 7z or winRAR 20:21 VanessaE blame sfan5 for packing those builds in that form :) 20:21 Calinou 7-zip is FOSS, and quick to install :P 20:21 bows im already on 0.4.7 20:21 PilzAdam my builds use normal .zip 20:21 VanessaE bows: no, git latest. not 0.4.7-stable 20:22 VanessaE 0.4.7-stable is out of date. 20:22 VanessaE (!) 20:22 Calinou by definition stable is always out of date 20:22 VanessaE yup 20:22 PilzAdam Calinou, not debian definition 20:22 bows oh ok im kinda new to the whole minetest 20:23 VanessaE Calinou: we should name them -old and -rusty for the previous two version releases ;-) 20:23 PilzAdam by debian's defintion stable is always unstable and shouldnt be included in stable release 20:23 DanDuncombe Can someone tell me the problem? http://pastebin.com/1xsbHvj9 20:23 Exio4 PilzAdam: for them versions are like features and stable has a nice 'feature freeze' 20:24 Exio4 you're probably using ubuntu 20:24 Calinou PilzAdam uses kubuntu :P 20:24 Exio4 that is debian + 'some packages updated' + canonical shit 20:24 bows the website only has the 0.4.7 20:24 VanessaE bows: download, extract, and use this: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.7-ff7c380-win32.7z 20:24 VanessaE forget the one on the website, it's old. 20:24 DanDuncombe VanessaE, do you know the abm's problem? 20:25 Exio4 Calinou: oh, *k*ubuntu? hm, k 20:25 Exio4 that is less canonical shit then :D 20:25 PilzAdam and more KDE awesomeness 20:25 VanessaE DanDuncombe: not sure really, too tired to look at code right now 20:25 Calinou chromium is now rolling release in 13.04, looks like 20:25 Calinou I have chromium 28 :P 20:25 DanDuncombe Does anyone else know? 20:25 Calinou and that's a good thing 20:25 Jordach i have chrome 28+ 20:26 bows would help if i had 7zip 20:26 PilzAdam google is evil 20:26 Calinou chrome is evil 20:26 Calinou ^ :D 20:26 Jordach i;'m owed 5 bucks 20:26 Jordach five bucks user doesnt have 7z or winRAR 20:26 bows im on firefox 20:26 PilzAdam bows, use my builds then 20:26 DanDuncombe PilzAdam, do you know the ABM's problem? 20:26 PilzAdam (see forum) 20:26 PenguinDad bows 7-zip.org IIRC 20:26 Jordach !g 7-zip 20:26 MinetestBot Jordach: http://www.7-zip.org/ 20:26 Jordach !title 20:26 MinetestBot Jordach: 7-Zip 20:27 Jordach who's a good MinetestBot? 20:27 bas080 The Matrix in Minetest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkHtb2LZWIM 20:27 MinetestBot PilzAdam! 20:27 bas080 hello MinetestBot 20:27 MinetestBot sup bas080. 20:27 VanessaE bas080: dafuq? 20:27 PenguinDad !title 20:27 MinetestBot PenguinDad: The Matrix in Minetest - YouTube 20:28 DanDuncombe Can anyone help with the abm? 20:28 bas080 VanessaE, i know. formspecs look awesome with this filter on 20:29 VanessaE this is a shader, or..? 20:29 DanDuncombe Figured oit out know with the abm 20:29 bas080 I think some kind of contrast filter. 20:29 bas080 It was a preset. 20:29 bas080 and i thought it looked cool. 20:29 VanessaE weird 20:29 DanDuncombe Does anyone have a good siren/alarm nodebox? 20:30 Calinou nope 20:30 Calinou you could use rubenwardy's thingy for making nodeboxes :p 20:30 bas080 DanDuncmbe. you can make one using mesecons 20:30 bows my laptops not coping with that 20:30 DanDuncombe I already have that. 20:30 DanDuncombe I want a good nodebox shape. 20:30 DanDuncombe And I have no ideas. 20:30 bows pilzadam ill use your build 20:30 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2840 20:31 * IceCraft gunzips 20:31 Calinou *ziiips* 20:31 IceCraft yaay 20:31 Megaf !up megaf.no-ip.info 30000 20:31 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.info:30000 is up (455ms) 20:31 reactor ? 20:31 Calinou a wild IPv6 user appears: IceCraft 20:31 IceCraft hehe 20:32 IceCraft am i the only ipv6 user here? ;'( 20:33 PilzAdam only one on the whole internet 20:33 IceCraft yes 20:33 PenguinDad proller uses IPV6 too. 20:33 IceCraft everybody should use it 20:33 bows pilz can i use your build ? 20:33 reactor not yet 20:33 Calinou everypony* 20:33 PilzAdam everypony 20:33 Calinou haha 20:33 reactor Russia doesn't go v6 yet 20:33 PilzAdam Calinou, ^^ 20:33 Calinou a lot of software doesn't support it 20:33 Calinou like Red Eclipse or Sauerbraten :P 20:33 IceCraft ^^ 20:33 IceCraft Sauerbraten yesyesyes 20:34 reactor MinetestBot: 02:33:28: ERROR[main]: unsupported NodeBox version 20:34 reactor oops 20:34 Calinou and there are no end user advantages for now 20:34 reactor Megaf: 02:33:28: ERROR[main]: unsupported NodeBox version 20:34 PilzAdam Minetest supports it 20:34 reactor that. 20:34 Calinou except if ISPs will finally not use NAT 20:34 Calinou (no NAT = no port forwarding, firewalls become useful) 20:34 bows cuz i cannot find 0.4.8 20:34 Megaf can anyone try to connect to my server please? People are timing out (megaf.no-ip.info) 20:34 Calinou there is no 0.4.8 20:35 reactor I've tried, and I failed. 20:35 bows ok so 0.4.7 is latest ? 20:35 Calinou yes 20:35 Calinou my ISP has IPv6 available, but I don't use it :P 20:35 VanessaE bows: again, don't use the stable release if you don't have to. Use this: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.7-ff7c380-win32.7z 20:36 PenguinDad My ISP not :/ 20:36 PilzAdam Megaf, "invalid password" wut? 20:36 IceCraft !up icecraft-is-best.tk 20:36 MinetestBot icecraft-is-best.tk:30000 seems to be down 20:36 bows im good ill just wait 20:36 IceCraft lie 20:36 reactor same, bows 20:36 reactor don't see any point of using unstable in package systems 20:36 Megaf bows time out too 20:36 Megaf weird 20:36 bows would help if i put my password in 20:36 reactor Megaf: use stable serve 20:36 reactor r 20:36 PilzAdam Megaf, can you reset my password? 20:36 bows yea megaf 20:36 Megaf PilzAdam, I deleted your file 20:37 reactor life? 20:37 reactor deleted his life? 20:37 PilzAdam Megaf, you need to reset my password in auth.txt 20:37 bows !up megaf.no-ip.org 20:37 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.org:30000 seems to be down 20:37 bows its down 20:37 Megaf I just shut down 20:37 bows ok 20:38 IceCraft :o 20:38 * IceCraft emerges 20:38 bows oop my laptop just spazzed 20:39 Calinou zombie laptop! 20:39 reactor wned 20:39 Jordach !up icecraft-is-best.tk 20:39 MinetestBot icecraft-is-best.tk:30000 seems to be down 20:39 bows lol its only got 1 gig of ram so poor thing 20:40 Calinou IceCraft is best teamkiller! 20:40 IceCraft yes 20:40 * IceCraft teamkills Calinou 20:41 reactor !up 127.0.0.1 20:41 MinetestBot 127.0.0.1:30000 is up (102ms) 20:41 reactor !up localhost 20:41 MinetestBot reactor: Invalid Address 20:41 IceCraft woa 20:41 reactor oh yeah 20:42 reactor local ping 102 ms 20:42 PilzAdam reactor, MinetestBot is hosted on minetest.ru 20:42 reactor lagfest. 20:42 reactor mkay 20:42 reactor !up goatse.cx 20:42 MinetestBot goatse.cx:30000 seems to be down 20:42 reactor aha. 20:42 bows keep forgetting my password 20:42 Megaf folks, can you please try again? reactor, bows, PilzAdam 20:42 IceCraft :o 20:42 IceCraft ew 20:42 reactor yes 20:42 IceCraft no pls 20:42 PilzAdam reactor, stop abusing the bot 20:42 reactor Sorry. 20:42 IceCraft ^ 20:42 Megaf man, just crashed again 20:42 reactor I'm not abusig it. I only tried to stretch it a little. 20:43 Megaf ok 20:43 Megaf I know what happened 20:43 bows whats the ip again ? 20:43 Megaf servers down 20:43 PilzAdam bows, there is this thing called "logs" 20:43 reactor totally 20:43 reactor he probably runs some old IRC client in a 80x25 terminal, with no scrollback 20:43 bows im a girl 20:44 bows and no i use the inbrowser client 20:44 reactor Sorry. It's safer to assume all people on the ARPANET are male, unless stated otherwise. 20:44 reactor browser client 20:44 reactor even worse 20:44 bows and i havent used irc befor 20:44 reactor What OS? 20:44 bows vista 20:44 reactor Oh, there we go. :( 20:45 PilzAdam everyone in the internet is male 20:45 PilzAdam bots are female 20:45 Calinou bows uses webchat ;) 20:45 PilzAdam and if someone claims to be a child then its an FBI agent 20:45 Calinou PilzAdam: you forgot about ponies :< 20:45 * sokomine is a bot and kicks pilzadam 20:45 bows im useless ive never use irc 20:45 IceCraft irssie best 20:45 Calinou if someone claims to be a pyro or an engineer or a Sam II they're a spy 20:46 sokomine a samII? but normal sams are ok? (arn't we all sam in mt?) 20:46 PilzAdam Calinou, the new offical name of the default player is Fiola, btw 20:47 Calinou wat 20:47 Calinou that is... stupid 20:47 Calinou but whatever 20:48 VanessaE no, it's SAM and it will remain SAM no matter what :) 20:48 Calinou wb DanDuncombe 20:49 DanDuncombe What is it, Calinou? 20:49 DanDuncombe I need to go anyway. 20:49 Calinou wb = welcome back 20:49 IceCraft bye 20:49 Calinou I have to go too, night :) 20:49 IceCraft nite 20:49 DanDuncombe Goodbye huys. 20:49 reactor bows: you should get a good OS first, man 20:49 IceCraft Lolo 20:49 reactor Start from Ubuntu. 20:49 DanDuncombe Guys I mean 20:49 IceCraft Yes 20:49 IceCraft Kubuntu 20:49 bows im good with vista reactor 20:49 reactor Or, fuck Ubuntu. Start from Debian. 20:49 IceCraft no 20:50 IceCraft Gentoo 20:50 * IceCraft emerges 20:50 * reactor slaps IceCraft 20:50 * IceCraft slaps back 20:50 reactor no one needs Gentoo. There is NetBSD if you want red eyes. 20:50 IceCraft pls 20:50 IceCraft Gentoo is Nr1 20:50 reactor Gentoo is Linux. 20:51 reactor No matter how hard they try, they ain't gonna make Linux BSD. 20:51 Peacock youd think griefers would choose a less obvious name than minecraft* lol 20:51 reactor bows: but not to stuff the brain with shit, start from NetBSD right away. 20:51 reactor Will free you a year of time or so. 20:51 bows reactor: i have no clue 20:51 IceCraft bows 20:52 IceCraft Use Gentoo 20:52 bows yes ice 20:52 reactor But meh. 20:52 reactor Anyway, look at them all, choose one, work on it. 20:52 IceCraft if you want to have it easy use ubuntu 20:52 Megaf bows, reactor PilzAdam, please for the last time, megaf.no-ip.info 20:53 bows ok meg 20:53 reactor Last time, so you say! 20:53 IceCraft !up megaf.no-ip.info 20:53 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.info:30000 is up (360ms) 20:53 IceCraft woa 20:53 IceCraft 360 ms 20:53 PilzAdam Megaf, you still havent reset by password 20:54 Megaf PilzAdam, done 20:54 PilzAdam ... 20:54 reactor !up megaf.no-ip.info:30000==================================================================================================================================================================================halt 20:54 MinetestBot reactor: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337' 20:55 PilzAdam still no lucj 20:55 PilzAdam !mute reactor 20:55 IceCraft lol 20:55 Exio4 ew 20:55 Peacock ty 20:55 bows !up megaf.no-ip.info 20:55 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.info:30000 is up (365ms) 20:55 PilzAdam Megaf, you need to run /auth_reload after editing the file... 20:56 IceCraft wtf +q 20:56 Megaf PilzAdam, but I did /clearpassword 20:56 Megaf ok, I will edit the file 20:56 Megaf fuck 20:56 Megaf sorry 20:56 Jordach PilzAdam, it's Sam, now please gtfo 20:56 Megaf segmentation fault now 20:56 Megaf I give up, gotta go 20:57 Jordach git points to me creating the skin so please, gtfo or use Sam as the name 21:01 Jordach !unmute reactor 21:01 Jordach flags only work when the guy is here :P 21:02 IceCraft interesting flags. qnet just have boring standard shit ;'( 21:03 Jordach not to mention they can be waved 21:08 VanessaE bbl 21:11 ShadowNinja sfan5: Can you add //pos1 [x,y,z|x y z] to WE? 21:25 reactor Eh. 21:28 IceCraft he 21:29 reactor By the way. Software rendering in NetBSD: ftp://94.51.188.173/pub/130731-032406.png 21:30 reactor By the way. Software rendering in NetBSD: ftp://94.51.188.173/pub/130731-032406.png 21:30 reactor Oops. 21:30 reactor Damn scrollback. 21:39 Exio4 >ftp >2013 21:39 Exio4 ;P 21:41 reactor What? 21:42 reactor FTP is not outdated. 21:42 reactor Damn it. 21:42 reactor You don't need to reinvent the wheel. 21:42 Exio4 reactor: i didn't say that 21:42 Exio4 i was copy-ing calinou 21:42 reactor Heh. 21:42 reactor I get it. 21:42 reactor :D 21:42 Exio4 finally! 21:43 reactor Rectally. 21:53 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzp_T_Zsyt4 22:04 ShadowNinja What do you think of a "/ip " command? 22:04 Peacock did they add the get ip function? 22:04 Peacock would be handy for my prison (otherwise they come back w/ diff name) 22:05 reactor BDSM? 22:06 Peacock oh yeah, you'd be surprised what i can do with a nodebox cheese grater 22:09 NekoGloop I... No. Stop that. 22:09 Peacock well, ask a silly question lol 22:10 ShadowNinja Peacock: Yes, a while ago, but there is no command to use it. 22:10 Peacock :( 22:10 Peacock otherwise its ban, get ip from worldpath, unban, but by then, the prison is useless lol 22:11 Peacock i wanna give server admins /ban, and country admins /jail 22:13 Peacock i already have autoban for Guest names, will add autoban for scattered node placement, and autoban for frivolous use of deco_fire lol 22:57 NekoGloop oooooog, I ate too much 22:58 * Exio4 eats NekoGloop 23:10 * Jordach eats Exio4 23:10 Exio4 nuu 23:14 Peacock is there a lua shorthand for value = value + 1? 23:14 PilzAdam no 23:14 Peacock dang 23:14 Peacock thanks 23:18 Uberi new WE feature added, beginning with "upside-down" and ending with "pyramids" 23:20 Kacey VanessaE, http://i.imgur.com/D68Fcpk.png 23:42 Jordach http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/270/untitled.png 23:42 PilzAdam is that one grass block under her? 23:43 Jordach PilzAdam, that's a plane of grass 23:44 PilzAdam the pixels are bigger than in normal Minetest 23:44 Jordach PilzAdam, that's because blender wouldn't do it as i had it in the viewport 23:45 hoodedice her? 23:45 hoodedice Sam is a girl? 23:45 Kacey http://i.imgur.com/D68Fcpk.png 23:45 Jordach if anyone wants that pickaxe as a blend file, feel free 23:46 hoodedice !Kacey Nice. Forest? 23:47 Kacey no moretrees fucked up and this happened 23:47 hoodedice Looks nice though 23:48 Kacey it is impossible to go through... 23:49 Peacock jesus, wheres the land? 23:50 Kacey that is my questin... 23:50 Kacey question* 23:50 Peacock can be fixed with a quick fire :p 23:51 Kacey fire is disabled... 23:51 Kacey and i deleted that world and made a new one 23:51 Peacock i noticed its the preferred method of griefing lol 23:54 Exio4 lol, nice render Jordach 23:58 Peacock hehe, got a few new surprises for griefers *evil grin*