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00:09 |
ShadowNinja |
-_- Do you see anything wrong with this? https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/blob/master/technic/machines/lv/cnc_api.lua#L337 |
00:10 |
NekoGloopMkII |
Make absolutely certain you use the same spelling for all of them |
00:11 |
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00:11 |
Ego |
Are the default mods necessary? Like Screwdriver or Vessels? |
00:11 |
Ego |
If I delete them, will Minetest break? =P |
00:11 |
NekoGloopMkII |
ShadowBot, or, y'know, say the error? :D |
00:11 |
NekoGloopMkII |
Ego, Probably. |
00:11 |
ShadowNinja |
I'll give you a hint. GitHub doesn't show it well but that function has only 22 arguments. |
00:12 |
Kacey |
desc_slope_upsdown |
00:12 |
Kacey |
needs to be usdwn to match the rest |
00:12 |
NekoGloopMkII |
Kacey, that's fine |
00:12 |
NekoGloopMkII |
Or, at least, functional. |
00:12 |
NekoGloopMkII |
ShadowBot, well, go figure. |
00:13 |
NekoGloopMkII |
ShadowNinja. |
00:13 |
NekoGloopMkII |
Fucking ShadowBot, stop stealing the tabs. |
00:13 |
Kacey |
idk then |
00:14 |
ShadowNinja |
I wonder if this even runs. It might not be called. |
00:16 |
NekoGloopMkII |
Seeing as I haven't played with technic since he was just starting to add MV? |
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khonkhortisan_ |
I switched from programmer dvorak to dvorak, and minetest rejects many less keys. |
00:17 |
khonkhortisan_ |
It's just the numpad that isn't working now, instead of 3 turning into newline. |
00:20 |
khonkhortisan_ |
Ego, only the mods that depend on them won't work. There is, however, a file that defines air and CONTENT_IGNORE. If you remove that, it will break. |
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00:23 |
Ego |
Definitely useful information |
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00:45 |
khonkhortisan_ |
ipv6 broke minetest again |
00:50 |
sokomine |
suspicious posting: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99746#p99746 advertises for a free mc account. the page it points to is...suspicous to me |
00:51 |
sokomine |
it asks people to advertise for it (that page) 3 times and pretends to check if that advertisement has been done. after that it promises a free mc account. seems to lead to a code generator |
00:54 |
khonkhortisan_ |
the download link looks like a pay-per-click |
00:55 |
khonkhortisan_ |
http://getperclick.com/ has many code generators for many things |
00:55 |
sokomine |
i don't think it's maliscious on his part |
00:57 |
sokomine |
he probably just found the link, thought he had to do the advertisement the site asked for (after all it's not too off-topic) and believed it. strangely enough, the program can be downloaded without doing anything. maybe it's malware |
00:59 |
kahrl |
certainly a spam bot. see http://tyannakinsey.blogspot.de/2013/01/hurrah-you-wont-believe-this-i-just-got.html |
00:59 |
kahrl |
captainfap probably used a weak password |
01:00 |
kahrl |
well, or malware grabbed his password |
01:00 |
sokomine |
i've pm'ed him. if he didn't post it he'll at least know to change his pw now |
01:02 |
khonkhortisan_ |
Client->Address/Port->Press Up or Down->mainmenu.lua:685: attempt to index a nil value |
01:02 |
NekoGloopMkII |
Yes, the lua menu is a POS |
01:02 |
NekoGloopMkII |
we get it :P |
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01:10 |
ShadowNinja |
So far on technic: 44 files changed, 563 insertions(+), 7548 deletions(-) |
01:10 |
ShadowNinja |
(This is not the first mod I have done this to...) |
01:11 |
ShadowNinja |
A few hundred lines is just commented out currently. |
01:11 |
ShadowNinja |
s/is/are/ |
01:12 |
VanessaE |
wow |
01:13 |
VanessaE |
hope you've been rebasing periodically :) |
01:13 |
VanessaE |
(given how much development technic's seen of late) |
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01:23 |
suntonlain |
hello, i was still here, but sleeping ! |
01:23 |
suntonlain |
:-) |
01:24 |
suntonlain |
here in Romania is 4:23AM |
01:24 |
suntonlain |
;-) |
01:26 |
suntonlain |
Abd i listen GoaPsyTrance from di.fm |
01:26 |
suntonlain |
and |
01:41 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
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01:43 |
eduhat |
hey guys, I just found out about minetest and downloaded it... pretty cool game. |
01:43 |
eduhat |
now i just need to learn how to play! |
01:43 |
suntonlain |
:-)) |
01:45 |
eduhat |
how do I build stuff lol? |
01:45 |
VanessaE |
dig and build, pretty basic really :) |
01:46 |
VanessaE |
usually you start by felling a tree and using the wood to make sticks and wooden tools, then go from there |
01:46 |
VanessaE |
left click digs. right click uses what you're holding (usually places) |
01:47 |
eduhat |
yea I was messing around and digged some sand and placed it. thats about as far as I got |
01:49 |
suntonlain |
eduhat, we wait to have an editor for minetest worlds |
01:50 |
suntonlain |
is hard to made by hand objects in minetest |
01:50 |
khonkhortisan |
dug |
01:50 |
VanessaE |
not really |
01:50 |
VanessaE |
if you want a world editor, use creative mode |
01:51 |
khonkhortisan |
and worldedit |
01:51 |
suntonlain |
why, notrealy ? |
01:51 |
VanessaE |
yup |
01:51 |
VanessaE |
and that terrain gun thingy that mauvebic did |
01:51 |
eduhat |
what is world editor? |
01:51 |
suntonlain |
yes i ue only creative |
01:51 |
VanessaE |
worldedit |
01:52 |
VanessaE |
it's a mod that allows you to do large operations at once |
01:52 |
VanessaE |
e.g. building walls, filling/copying/moving areas, a few geometric primitives |
01:52 |
suntonlain |
vanessaE, you have a server online, isn't it ? |
01:52 |
VanessaE |
yes, but you need git from today to use it. |
01:52 |
VanessaE |
vanessae.mine.bz:30000 |
01:53 |
suntonlain |
Eduhat, a world editor is a map editor |
01:53 |
VanessaE |
suntonlain: not in this case. "worldedit" (one word) is not a map editor. |
01:54 |
suntonlain |
and minetest not have a map editor, with terrain generator, and staff |
01:54 |
VanessaE |
it's a library of commands one can use to effect large, bulk changes to the world, but you run it from within the game. |
01:55 |
eduhat |
oh i see. I'd just like to start building stuff. Im going to have to read some tutorials |
01:55 |
suntonlain |
yess VanessaE, at minetest, worldedit is not a mapeditor, is just a simple mod |
01:55 |
VanessaE |
"simple"? hhe |
01:55 |
VanessaE |
heh |
01:56 |
suntonlain |
i talk about worldeditor like minecraft |
01:56 |
VanessaE |
afaik, we don't have such a thing |
01:56 |
suntonlain |
i talk about world editor like OMAN |
01:56 |
eduhat |
how does minecraft compare to minetest? |
01:57 |
VanessaE |
dunno, never played minecraft |
01:57 |
suntonlain |
Oman is the best world editor |
01:57 |
suntonlain |
;-) |
01:58 |
suntonlain |
if we can have a translater of maps from minecraft to minetest, then wew will can kill minecraft |
01:58 |
VanessaE |
meh |
01:58 |
suntonlain |
:-)) |
01:58 |
VanessaE |
make your own maps |
01:58 |
khonkhortisan |
We need to be able to move structures between servers, without actually having access to the server computer |
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01:59 |
suntonlain |
WanessaE, i will try to entry in your 3dspace |
02:00 |
NekoGloopMkII |
minecraft is more gamey and minetest is more sandboxy |
02:00 |
VanessaE |
suntonlain: you must use the latest git build from today. |
02:00 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloopMkII: interesting way to put it |
02:00 |
khonkhortisan |
From lua, what library can I use to store rotations? |
02:01 |
suntonlain |
what is a 'git' ? |
02:01 |
khonkhortisan |
a revision control system |
02:01 |
VanessaE |
suntonlain: a source code rev...... yeah |
02:01 |
khonkhortisan |
git svn cvs rcs etc |
02:01 |
khonkhortisan |
hg/mercurial |
02:02 |
VanessaE |
github is the site on which we store said source code. |
02:02 |
suntonlain |
0.4.7 is not good ? |
02:02 |
khonkhortisan |
current git is not good. |
02:02 |
khonkhortisan |
ipv6 crash |
02:02 |
VanessaE |
when someone says "latest git", then mean you need to get the very latest development version of the source code from that side. |
02:02 |
VanessaE |
site* |
02:03 |
VanessaE |
suntonlain: not for my server. |
02:03 |
VanessaE |
(because of a bug that just got fixed) |
02:03 |
suntonlain |
well WanessaE, but you do not want to have ordinary visitors ? |
02:03 |
VanessaE |
suntonlain: it's Vanessa (with a V) |
02:03 |
khonkhortisan |
modders like the latest stuff |
02:03 |
khonkhortisan |
or Van-tab |
02:04 |
suntonlain |
Ah, sorry |
02:04 |
VanessaE |
suntonlain: normally it would be fine, but not in this case. |
02:05 |
suntonlain |
and i remember about a Vanessa with a nice site about minrcraft or minrtest, a person fro usa. |
02:05 |
VanessaE |
that was probably me :-) (but minetest only) |
02:06 |
suntonlain |
on that site are nice photos |
02:06 |
suntonlain |
ah, well, then i am prowd to meet you |
02:06 |
suntonlain |
you have a great site about minetest |
02:07 |
VanessaE |
nope |
02:07 |
VanessaE |
just a lot of forum posts and a wikia article for one of my mods |
02:08 |
* khonkhortisan |
waits for his compile to finish before posting something here |
02:08 |
suntonlain |
you knew ? infact ( not infect) minetest does not have a serious docummentation for noobs |
02:09 |
VanessaE |
I knew what? |
02:09 |
ShadowNinja |
suntonlain: wiki.minetest.net? |
02:09 |
suntonlain |
his wiky is for developers and smart users |
02:09 |
khonkhortisan |
PLEASE MERGE https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/794/files |
02:09 |
khonkhortisan |
minetest will not run without this |
02:10 |
suntonlain |
wiki is not for stupid users like me |
02:10 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: better mention that in -dev |
02:10 |
ShadowNinja |
khonkhortisan: enable_ipv6 = false? |
02:10 |
VanessaE |
(though since I don't use ipv6 at all, it doesn't affectme) |
02:10 |
khonkhortisan |
ShadowNinja, that's why it needs this commit. |
02:11 |
suntonlain |
i want hekp for all kinds of users not only geniouses |
02:11 |
khonkhortisan |
(though since your computer supports ipv6 at all times, it doesn't affect you) |
02:11 |
VanessaE |
suntonlain: sooner or later we will have some decent docs for noobs |
02:11 |
ShadowNinja |
The port issue has to be fixed in that pull. |
02:11 |
VanessaE |
suntonlain: but a fair part of what applies to minecraft classic applies to minetest_game also |
02:13 |
suntonlain |
VanessaE minetest need a OMAN like editor |
02:13 |
VanessaE |
why? |
02:13 |
VanessaE |
play the game, don't just edit the map :) |
02:13 |
suntonlain |
that editor is the king of all editors |
02:14 |
suntonlain |
aaaah, sorry, i love to make maps and stay at chat, not playng |
02:16 |
suntonlain |
Minetest need a OMAN beacouse with minetest we can do a lotof kinds of 3d spaces |
02:16 |
VanessaE |
if you wanna draw maps, go use a paint program :) |
02:16 |
VanessaE |
suntonlain: so code it :) |
02:18 |
suntonlain |
nope Vanessa,E, allredy i have VRML severs, and OpenSim too, but minetest family servers run more easy in my netbook |
02:18 |
suntonlain |
OMG |
02:18 |
suntonlain |
you say me about coding ? |
02:18 |
suntonlain |
:-)))))) |
02:18 |
VanessaE |
anyone can learn to program. |
02:22 |
suntonlain |
No way for codding. My mind is of a old person |
02:23 |
suntonlain |
And my english is so poor, and is hard for me to learn corect english |
02:24 |
suntonlain |
then is hard for me to read in english |
02:25 |
suntonlain |
Sincerely, nore in my mather language i do not knew grammar, sintax and so on ... |
02:25 |
* Kacey |
just read the wiki on the modding api... |
02:25 |
suntonlain |
And you tell me to make code ... |
02:26 |
suntonlain |
:-))))))) |
02:26 |
Kacey |
the instructions weren't clear enough... i got my cat stuck in the cieling fan... i dont even own a cat... |
02:26 |
ShadowNinja |
Kacey: dev.minetest.net? |
02:27 |
Kacey |
yep |
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02:54 |
suntonlain |
he he he, ...and I have a lotofthings to knew about using this IRC ... |
02:54 |
suntonlain |
Great application this freenode |
02:54 |
VanessaE |
freenode is a network, not an application |
02:55 |
suntonlain |
ups ! |
02:55 |
suntonlain |
just i was on your site |
02:55 |
suntonlain |
but allredy was known from a few month ago |
02:56 |
suntonlain |
whe i did searching about minetest. |
02:57 |
suntonlain |
VanesaE, can I open a thread wit noobs using minetest ? |
02:58 |
suntonlain |
with |
02:58 |
VanessaE |
I don't run the forums, I'm just a mod there. anyone can create new threads (except in "News" and "Mod Releases") |
03:00 |
suntonlain |
there in forum is another romanian |
03:01 |
suntonlain |
virtual heghog or somethat ... |
03:01 |
suntonlain |
wait to seee |
03:01 |
suntonlain |
:-)) |
03:02 |
hdastwb |
Menche, are you running repairs on your server? |
03:04 |
kahrl |
radio just played dragostea din tei |
03:04 |
kahrl |
only romanian thing i know :D |
03:04 |
Menche |
sorry, restarted it a few times |
03:05 |
Menche |
seeing if disabling debug logging will help with performancfe |
03:05 |
Menche |
*performance |
03:05 |
Menche |
i'm redirecting the output instead |
03:06 |
Menche |
http://i.imgur.com/jIOkjNB.png |
03:06 |
Menche |
entity duplication? |
03:06 |
Menche |
(in an unloaded block) |
03:06 |
kahrl |
Menche: seems to happen a lot on other servers as well |
03:06 |
hdastwb |
indeed, I do remember seeing that when I teleported into spawn |
03:07 |
hdastwb |
so, it seems like there's not currently any way of acquiring pumpkin seeds in minetest short of /give and creative… |
03:13 |
suntonlain |
VanessaE you have 2 personal messages in minetest forum |
03:13 |
suntonlain |
:-) |
03:15 |
VanessaE |
suntonlain: er... |
03:15 |
VanessaE |
*reads messages* |
03:19 |
suntonlain |
sunt_on_lain mean i_am_online in english ;-) |
03:22 |
khonkhortisan |
what does i_am_online mean then? |
03:22 |
khonkhortisan |
I mean- |
03:23 |
khonkhortisan |
what does I_am_online, meaning sunt_on_lain, mean in? |
03:24 |
suntonlain |
yess is in romglish ... meaning romanian0english :-)) |
03:25 |
suntonlain |
sunt = I am |
03:25 |
suntonlain |
and |
03:25 |
suntonlain |
onlain = online |
03:25 |
suntonlain |
:-) |
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suntonlain |
Is 6:37AM here. I must to go. See You soon. Bye bye |
03:47 |
meldrian |
ha, thats nothin, its 5:47 here and iam still there ^^ good morning everyone |
03:51 |
hdastwb |
just about midnight here; I'm signing off |
03:51 |
arsdragonfly |
good morning |
03:52 |
arsdragonfly |
it's 11:52a.m. here right now |
03:53 |
arsdragonfly |
Monday btw |
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sfan5 |
!rand 100 |
06:51 |
MinetestBot |
AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'replace' (file "/home/xyz/bot/irc.py", line 162, in safe) |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all, happy Get Out of the Dog House Day! :-D |
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webdesigner97 |
hi |
08:57 |
Calinou |
hi |
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09:04 |
webdesigner97 |
how can I access param2 of a noed at <pos>? |
09:04 |
webdesigner97 |
*node |
09:05 |
webdesigner97 |
ah |
09:06 |
webdesigner97 |
minetest.get_node(pos).param2 :D |
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webdesigner97 |
is <pos> in on_blast the position where the explosion started or the position of the node? |
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10:07 |
arsdragonfly |
what are the listnames of a player's InvRef? |
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10:09 |
asdd444 |
Minetest sounds good,and it's supposed to be lightweight...but can it run OK on Intel Integrated Graphics? |
10:09 |
arsdragonfly |
It's said that it runs playable on a GMA950 gpu |
10:11 |
asdd444 |
I don't know much about what gpus are good and what's bad,only that my laptop isn't good.20 FPS tops on your more commerical competitor(during normal gameplay) |
10:14 |
Calinou |
asdd444: it depends which |
10:15 |
Calinou |
intel graphics range from "very crappy" to "acceptable" |
10:15 |
asdd444 |
Mine is a i3,with integrated graphics. |
10:15 |
Calinou |
20 FPS tops in minecraft, expect 20 FPS topis in minetest too |
10:15 |
Calinou |
I bet you have an atom 8) |
10:15 |
Calinou |
oh |
10:15 |
Calinou |
asdd444: which gen i3 |
10:15 |
Calinou |
more recent i3s should give you better FPS than that |
10:15 |
Calinou |
but the first gen i3s still have very slow IGPs |
10:17 |
asdd444 |
Still,the modding sounds good.What's it written in? |
10:17 |
Calinou |
lua |
10:17 |
asdd444 |
Ah,lua,so that means no arcane magic needed for modding then? |
10:18 |
Calinou |
arcane magic? |
10:18 |
asdd444 |
Like decompilation. |
10:18 |
asdd444 |
That's how insane MC modding is. |
10:19 |
Calinou |
decompilation AND deobfuscation |
10:19 |
asdd444 |
I know.You get the point. |
10:19 |
Calinou |
and no mod downloading over a server, if a server adds content, you have to mod your client yourself |
10:19 |
asdd444 |
-wait,you can do that? |
10:20 |
Calinou |
on minetest yes |
10:20 |
Calinou |
textures, models and sounds are downloaded when you join a server, and cached |
10:20 |
asdd444 |
Wow. |
10:20 |
Calinou |
there is HTTP download support for faster downloads |
10:20 |
Calinou |
this also makes server-side texture packs possible (but not enforceable) |
10:20 |
Calinou |
like in minecraft |
10:21 |
asdd444 |
Do you think it's possible to move a MC world to Minetest? |
10:22 |
asdd444 |
If they both have a chunk size of 16x16x256 it should be... |
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asdd444 |
Irrlicht? The devs actually figured out how to stop it from crashing every second? |
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10:38 |
arsdragonfly |
is removing a wield item setting it to 'air 1'? |
10:39 |
sfan5 |
asdd444: Minetest has a chunk size of 16x16x16 and there are multiple of them on the x axis |
10:39 |
sfan5 |
arsdragonfly: you mean if don't hold anything in your hand |
10:39 |
sfan5 |
#? |
10:39 |
arsdragonfly |
if i'm holding something and i want to remove it |
10:40 |
sfan5 |
asdd444: *y axis |
10:40 |
asdd444 |
So basically,like minecraft. |
10:40 |
sfan5 |
no |
10:40 |
arsdragonfly |
'air 1 |
10:40 |
asdd444 |
Actually,you'll find that minecraft has in it's chunks Sections. |
10:40 |
sfan5 |
Minecraft has 16x256x16 chunks and there's only _1_ chunk on the x axis |
10:40 |
arsdragonfly |
or 'default:air 1'? |
10:41 |
sfan5 |
damnit |
10:41 |
sfan5 |
*y axis |
10:41 |
asdd444 |
Sections are 16x16x16. |
10:41 |
arsdragonfly |
that is ,vertically |
10:41 |
asdd444 |
They are put in a chunk,16x256x16. |
10:41 |
sfan5 |
asdd444: MC has no such thing called "sections" |
10:42 |
arsdragonfly |
sfan5 which one is right? |
10:42 |
asdd444 |
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Chunk_format |
10:42 |
arsdragonfly |
'air 1' or 'default:air 1' or something else? |
10:42 |
asdd444 |
See "Sections" |
10:42 |
sfan5 |
arsdragonfly: if you look into the default mod theres no air registered, air is named "air" |
10:42 |
asdd444 |
in the NBT format. |
10:43 |
arsdragonfly |
ok thx |
10:45 |
sfan5 |
arsdragonfly: but to remove items you need to use "" not "air" otherwise you'll get the "air (you hacker you!)" item in your hand |
10:45 |
arsdragonfly |
ok |
10:45 |
arsdragonfly |
so ItemStack("") is valid right :-P |
10:48 |
sfan5 |
yes |
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10:53 |
webdesigner97 |
hi again |
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10:53 |
SteveWarfare |
hi |
10:54 |
sfan5 |
hi |
10:54 |
SteveWarfare |
sfan its me Ragnar |
10:54 |
SteveWarfare |
i forgot my pw :D |
10:54 |
webdesigner97 |
1 week ago I had a suggestion in "feature discussion", but no developer answered yet :( http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6499 |
10:55 |
SteveWarfare |
but anyways... is there somebody that could help me build a membership system in PHP and MySQL? |
10:55 |
SteveWarfare |
webdesigner97 |
10:55 |
SteveWarfare |
could you help me please? |
10:55 |
SteveWarfare |
im thinking of reopening my Minetest Server |
10:55 |
SteveWarfare |
but i first want a website :D |
10:55 |
webdesigner97 |
I don't have time. I'm working on a website for my uncle |
10:55 |
SteveWarfare |
oh :D |
10:55 |
webdesigner97 |
:/ |
10:55 |
SteveWarfare |
ok |
10:56 |
SteveWarfare |
well is there anybody else? |
10:56 |
webdesigner97 |
what about learning PHP and MySQL yourself? ;) |
10:56 |
SteveWarfare |
idk where from |
10:56 |
SteveWarfare |
.-. |
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SteveWarfare |
sfan5 |
10:57 |
SteveWarfare |
could you help? |
10:57 |
sfan5 |
what? |
10:58 |
SteveWarfare |
make a php/mysql membership system for my MT server |
10:58 |
SteveWarfare |
.-. |
10:58 |
SteveWarfare |
plz dood |
10:58 |
sfan5 |
no |
10:58 |
SteveWarfare |
oh ok <:/ |
10:58 |
sfan5 |
google can help you+ |
10:58 |
SteveWarfare |
mkay dood |
10:59 |
SteveWarfare |
whats the default port of minetest? |
11:00 |
webdesigner97 |
30000 |
11:00 |
SteveWarfare |
ok |
11:00 |
SteveWarfare |
so 30k? |
11:00 |
SteveWarfare |
so many zeros... |
11:00 |
SteveWarfare |
but... would it run on port 27015\ |
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11:00 |
SteveWarfare |
? |
11:01 |
webdesigner97 |
i think yes. if 27015 is free |
11:01 |
SteveWarfare |
it is |
11:03 |
webdesigner97 |
then yes |
11:03 |
SteveWarfare |
crap.... 0.4.3 lags as f***k... |
11:03 |
SteveWarfare |
:D |
11:03 |
SteveWarfare |
even with all the boxes checked off |
11:03 |
SteveWarfare |
im getting like 1-3 fps... |
11:03 |
webdesigner97 |
ouch |
11:03 |
SteveWarfare |
ikr... |
11:04 |
webdesigner97 |
gtg now. by |
11:04 |
webdesigner97 |
*bye |
11:04 |
SteveWarfare |
even Counter-Strike in Multiplayer while running my server with 2 more people on it doesnt lag that much |
11:04 |
SteveWarfare |
o.o |
11:06 |
SteveWarfare |
well guess the server idea is out... |
11:06 |
SteveWarfare |
:/ |
11:06 |
SteveWarfare |
i know, ill make a modding community website :D |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
11:13 |
SteveWarfare |
bye everyone! |
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11:33 |
asdd444 |
I've seen the api-but where's the "Get the type of this block" function? |
11:37 |
sfan5 |
asdd444: which one? |
11:38 |
asdd444 |
The Lua api. |
11:39 |
asdd444 |
I haven't seen a get the type of this block function...but the api docs do seem to be incomplete.For example,there's functions missing from one page but on another. |
11:44 |
kahrl |
asdd444: minetest.get_node? |
11:45 |
asdd444 |
There's no wiki page on it,but i'll try it anyway,see what it returns... |
11:46 |
kahrl |
!dev minetest.get_node |
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11:46 |
asdd444 |
I'm on the dev wiki. |
11:47 |
kahrl |
oh, bot is down |
11:47 |
kahrl |
http://dev.minetest.net/EnvRef:get_node |
11:47 |
asdd444 |
Well that didn't make sense,but thanks. |
11:47 |
kahrl |
it used to be minetest.env:get_node, it changed recently |
11:48 |
asdd444 |
Ah,that does make sense....Back to work on my first test block titled "Decay" |
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PilzAdam |
kahrl, AFAIK the minetest.env:* -> minetest.* switch is not done in the dev wiki yet |
12:50 |
asdd444 |
I've noticed the game slows down when you make a block that spreads to every other block that isn't itself or air. |
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13:21 |
webdesigner97 |
hi again |
13:22 |
asdd444 |
Hello.I've been working on a world-destroyer. |
13:23 |
webdesigner97 |
sounds.... interesting? |
13:23 |
webdesigner97 |
Is PilzAdam here? |
13:25 |
asdd444 |
The world-destroyer is a mod,which adds a block,which spreads,and eats the world.Leaving only itself. |
13:26 |
asdd444 |
PilzAdam seems to be online,there's no Disconnect notice. |
13:27 |
Exio4 |
webdesigner97: /whois $nick $nick |
13:27 |
Exio4 |
two times |
13:28 |
webdesigner97 |
thx |
13:28 |
webdesigner97 |
it's not that important. I'll wait for him |
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13:56 |
webdesigner97 |
I need a new house to live in my singleplayer world |
13:56 |
webdesigner97 |
My old one burnt down by accident :( |
13:56 |
webdesigner97 |
http://im.bilderkiste.org/6137389657701/fire.png |
13:58 |
Exio4 |
aw |
13:59 |
webdesigner97 |
that's sad... but I'll build a new one |
13:59 |
webdesigner97 |
the question is: What to do with the old? |
14:01 |
asdd444 |
I say,surround it with air... |
14:01 |
webdesigner97 |
huh? |
14:01 |
asdd444 |
so that my Decay dosen't escape and destroy your entire world... |
14:01 |
asdd444 |
And put decay on it. |
14:01 |
asdd444 |
It's a easy way of removing it. |
14:01 |
webdesigner97 |
... |
14:05 |
asdd444 |
...Actually,destroying the whole world accidently because of someone forgetting to remove 1 block isn't a great idea. |
14:05 |
asdd444 |
Rebuild it. |
14:05 |
asdd444 |
On the spot. |
14:05 |
asdd444 |
Where the old one is. |
14:05 |
webdesigner97 |
Or I'll make look like a real ruin |
14:05 |
webdesigner97 |
with trees and poison ivy in it |
14:08 |
asdd444 |
Ah,good idea. |
14:08 |
webdesigner97 |
I'll make a screenshot when it's finished |
14:08 |
asdd444 |
And put a sign "Memorial to the Old House" |
14:09 |
webdesigner97 |
maybe :D |
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14:10 |
asdd444 |
...Linus? As in...no,it's not possible... |
14:11 |
PenguinDad |
What isn't possible? |
14:13 |
asdd444 |
That you'd be a certain person who made the linux kernel. |
14:13 |
asdd444 |
Ah,Bad allocator error.I knew that decay would cause one eventually,it eats memory for breakfast. |
14:13 |
asdd444 |
(oh,it's a n not a r.) |
14:14 |
PenguinDad |
I'm not Linus Torvalds. |
14:15 |
PenguinDad |
But Linus is the first part of my real name. |
14:16 |
asdd444 |
Oh.And as for the penguin? |
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14:18 |
asdd444 |
...How far down does Minetest go? I still haven't destroyed the world with my evil experiment: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/AAHHHH.png |
14:22 |
whirm |
asdd444: lol, nanobots are eating your world! |
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14:23 |
asdd444 |
Not nanobots.Decay.I coded it myself to destroy the world.It still hasn't reached the bottom,and it's been going for ages. |
14:24 |
asdd444 |
...oh,maybe it has...or it could be the massive amount of stuff happening |
14:24 |
whirm |
I think it was ~32000 deep |
14:25 |
asdd444 |
Oh.So i'll never,ever,ever,ever,ever reach the bottom? |
14:26 |
whirm |
asdd444: if you wait long enough... |
14:27 |
asdd444 |
Exception:Access Violation.I've crashed it trying. |
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14:27 |
pandaro |
hello to all guys |
14:27 |
suntonlain |
salut |
14:28 |
pandaro |
I have a small problem with my mod: "player_radar" |
14:28 |
pandaro |
can i ask here? |
14:29 |
suntonlain |
sure, but not to me, becaise i am totaly noob |
14:29 |
asdd444 |
Wow,a player radar? All i've managed so far is a simple-world destroying block. Nothing in comparison. |
14:30 |
pandaro |
is very easy, i use get_connected_player() |
14:30 |
pandaro |
but |
14:30 |
pandaro |
i have a problem with formspec |
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14:31 |
pandaro |
from some updating formspec no longer displays images with dimensions smaller than 1. |
14:32 |
pandaro |
example = "image [10,10, 0.9,0.9; object_radar_player.png]" is no longer displayed. |
14:32 |
asdd444 |
...smaller than 1? 1 pixel? |
14:33 |
pandaro |
no, is not a pixel |
14:33 |
webdesigner97 |
http://im.bilderkiste.org/3137389878450/fire.png |
14:33 |
webdesigner97 |
http://im.bilderkiste.org/7137389879269/innen.png |
14:33 |
webdesigner97 |
Screenshots of my house |
14:33 |
pandaro |
is a internal measure of minetest |
14:34 |
asdd444 |
Well,are the arguments:x,y,scalex,scaley or x,y,sizex,sizey? |
14:34 |
pandaro |
if you try my player radar befor 0.47 relase it work |
14:35 |
asdd444 |
Ah,here it tells me on the wiki. |
14:36 |
asdd444 |
...Ok,it says nothing about the coordinate system used. |
14:36 |
pandaro |
i dont know, in the api is : image[<X>,<Y>;<W>,<H>;<texture name>]^ Show an image^ Position and size units are inventory slots |
14:36 |
asdd444 |
oh...here.Inventory slots. |
14:37 |
asdd444 |
Right...And why do you need it smaller than 1 slot? |
14:37 |
pandaro |
because it represents a player within a very large area |
14:38 |
pandaro |
so i need little |
14:38 |
asdd444 |
Quick idea,a bit of a cheaty one,but why don't you make the image bigger so it scales the actual dot down? |
14:38 |
pandaro |
mmm |
14:38 |
pandaro |
i try in 5 minut |
14:38 |
pandaro |
thanks |
14:39 |
asdd444 |
So for half a slot,you take the source,make a image double the size and copy the source to the top-left. |
14:39 |
asdd444 |
If the Minetest engine scales stuff to fit,it should work. |
14:39 |
asdd444 |
As i said,bit cheaty,and incompatible with buttons. |
14:44 |
PilzAdam |
back |
14:44 |
PilzAdam |
damn, 4 minutes :-/ |
14:44 |
pandaro |
nothing to do |
14:44 |
pandaro |
hi adam |
14:44 |
PilzAdam |
hey |
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14:46 |
asdd444 |
Pandaro,did it work? |
14:46 |
pandaro |
no asdd444 |
14:46 |
asdd444 |
...A screenshot of before and after? |
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pandaro |
before, my old version: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4835 |
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14:49 |
asdd444 |
And now? |
14:49 |
pandaro |
a moment please |
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14:53 |
ShadowNinja |
pandaro: You should talk to sapier about that. He was the most recent person to modify formspecs. |
14:53 |
pandaro |
http://imgur.com/IV1ulWu |
14:54 |
pandaro |
thanks for the info shadowNinja |
14:54 |
asdd444 |
Instead of just a dot,make a dot with padding: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/Dot.png |
14:54 |
asdd444 |
And keep the scale at 1. |
14:55 |
suntonlain |
:-) OMG ! Great site this http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ ! |
14:55 |
pandaro |
not very elegant, although it probably works |
14:58 |
pandaro |
in fact if I used "box" instead of "image" I do what I want, but the problem is that it does not print images that are dim, but only semi-transparent |
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pandaro |
someone is simply unaware of a way to represent small colored dots on a formspec? |
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15:02 |
pandaro |
Formspec defines a menu. Currently not much else than inventories are |
15:02 |
pandaro |
supported. It is a string, with a somewhat strange format. |
15:02 |
PilzAdam |
john_minetest, hehe |
15:02 |
pandaro |
i like speck |
15:02 |
pandaro |
senfter |
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pandaro |
anyway thanks to all for the help, now I have to go, I'll try to ask sapier when I see it online |
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Jordach |
if theres one person i want in this channel again, it;s mauvebic |
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15:41 |
iqualfragile |
then get him back |
15:42 |
* PenguinDad |
is back from playing Redeclipse. |
15:42 |
Calinou |
red eclipse :D |
15:42 |
iqualfragile |
i started playing unvanquished lately |
15:43 |
iqualfragile |
hdastwb: why not use the elevator mod? |
15:43 |
PenguinDad |
Calinou: My friend plays it too. |
15:43 |
iqualfragile |
are you female or homosexual? |
15:43 |
Calinou |
are there any players on unvanquished? |
15:43 |
Calinou |
iqualfragile: le closed question |
15:43 |
iqualfragile |
yes, but only in the evening |
15:44 |
iqualfragile |
well… my evening at least |
15:44 |
iqualfragile |
in about 3-4 hours |
15:46 |
iqualfragile |
closed question? |
15:46 |
Calinou |
<iqualfragile> are you female or homosexual? |
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16:06 |
hdastwb |
I just tried it; the field generator thing is quite expensive for something that you'd use *before* you set up a mine and it gliched me into the cave floor at one point |
16:07 |
hdastwb |
I like the 2x2 staircases; I think I might switch to using those predominantly in shafts |
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16:11 |
iqualfragile |
you can just eddit the mod |
16:11 |
iqualfragile |
but 2x2 staircases are not bad either |
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16:18 |
Jordach |
Today: 20th anniversary of Rave on Digitally Imported |
16:19 |
Calinou |
[inception face] |
16:19 |
Calinou |
what |
16:19 |
Jordach |
its over |
16:19 |
Jordach |
fuck |
16:19 |
* Jordach |
goes to last played. |
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16:23 |
kaeza |
greetings |
16:23 |
VanessaE |
greetz. |
16:24 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/WO5UsMP.png <- Calinou |
16:24 |
Guest13237 |
crap |
16:25 |
Jordach |
Guest13237, hai kaz |
16:25 |
Calinou |
le big .png |
16:25 |
Calinou |
hi Guest13237 |
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16:25 |
Calinou |
too bad you have a "2" in your name |
16:25 |
Calinou |
would be l33t if you didn't have one |
16:25 |
* Jordach |
has been at the beach all day |
16:25 |
Jordach |
:) |
16:25 |
Guest13237 |
hehe |
16:25 |
Jordach |
28*C too |
16:26 |
Jordach |
29*C in places |
16:26 |
Calinou |
here's a ° |
16:26 |
Calinou |
(╯°□°)╯︵ â”»â”â”» |
16:26 |
Jordach |
upside down bracket needs to be higher Calinou |
16:26 |
Calinou |
lol, it actually looks fine on the IRC logs |
16:27 |
Jordach |
projectM is awesome |
16:28 |
* Jordach |
just needs the accompanied LSD |
16:28 |
Jordach |
and for once, my GPU is actually good at something 89fps |
16:28 |
Jordach |
=* |
16:29 |
Guest13237 |
I've just found that the game is unplayable without internet connection |
16:29 |
Jordach |
huh? |
16:30 |
Guest13237 |
the mainmenu seems to be downloading something it shouldn't, and blocking until the connection times out |
16:30 |
Guest13237 |
now that I have no connection at home, the main menu does not show up at all |
16:30 |
Jordach |
Guest13237, /msg nickserv identify <pass> |
16:31 |
Guest13237 |
Jordach: I'm here only for a bit |
16:31 |
Jordach |
oh |
16:31 |
Guest13237 |
yey I'm banned from #-dev |
16:31 |
Calinou |
Guest13237: old bug |
16:31 |
Guest13237 |
(well, webchat is banned) |
16:32 |
Calinou |
ponychat gets you automatic op as you join -dev |
16:32 |
* Jordach |
slaps Calinou |
16:32 |
Jordach |
i still retain only 92% of my sanity |
16:32 |
Jordach |
the interwebs has the other 8% |
16:33 |
kaeza_ |
Calinou: ? |
16:33 |
Calinou |
kaeza_: joke :p |
16:34 |
kaeza_ |
[13:32] <Calinou> Guest13237: old bug <-- this |
16:34 |
Calinou |
yes, the freezing menu bug is there since always |
16:34 |
kaeza_ |
it started since I pulled the new lua main menu |
16:34 |
Jordach |
because serverlist |
16:35 |
kaeza_ |
hrm |
16:35 |
Jordach |
blame sapier now, even RBA makes better code |
16:35 |
Jordach |
</troll> |
16:35 |
kaeza_ |
I even have public_serverlist = false in conf |
16:35 |
Jordach |
poke sapier to fix it |
16:35 |
Calinou |
the menu shouldn't freeze in the first place, if this isn't preventable, timeout should be reduced to something like 5 secodns |
16:35 |
kaeza_ |
(or whatever the setting is) |
16:36 |
kaeza_ |
Jordach: sapier isn't here. could you notify him in #-dev? (or whoever it may concern) |
16:37 |
kaeza_ |
meh, I'll open an issue on gh |
16:37 |
Jordach |
kaeza_, just done |
16:37 |
kaeza_ |
thx |
16:38 |
Jordach |
not on gh though |
16:38 |
Jordach |
i'm even more reliable than sapier |
16:38 |
Jordach |
:P |
16:38 |
Calinou |
but less reliable than TCP |
16:38 |
Jordach |
but more reliable than UDP* |
16:41 |
kaeza_ |
lol |
16:41 |
kaeza_ |
hope this is enough: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/814#issuecomment-20982493 |
16:43 |
Jordach |
can certain members of the community, such as me, kaeza_ sokomine, Taoki and some others, get a group thing; eg, Old Member |
16:43 |
asdd444 |
...Ok,my world-destroying mod isn't fun enough.I'm working out recipes to turn Decay(the world-destroyer) into a automatic miner. |
16:44 |
Jordach |
or something such as; Helpful User |
16:44 |
kaeza_ |
Jordach: +1 |
16:44 |
Jordach |
although im more of an old member |
16:44 |
Calinou |
Jordach: why? |
16:44 |
Jordach |
Calinou, because i'm bored of Member |
16:45 |
kaeza_ |
there aree tons of modders out there that have also done revolutionary mods |
16:45 |
Jordach |
eg, sokomine, zeg9 |
16:45 |
kaeza_ |
s/tons/a few/ |
16:45 |
Jordach |
your travelnet is awesome |
16:45 |
Jordach |
cmon 3DS, die of battery loss so i can charge you |
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16:46 |
kaeza_ |
lol 3ds |
16:46 |
Jordach |
the only game i want is Super Smash Bros Universe :P |
16:47 |
Jordach |
because fuck Wii U |
16:47 |
kaeza_ |
dunno, I still have meh olde PSX :P |
16:47 |
Ego |
Does /ban command accept wildcards? |
16:47 |
Jordach |
ha |
16:47 |
Jordach |
Ego, nope.avi |
16:47 |
Ego |
F7U12 |
16:47 |
Ego |
Some derp with an entire /8 is being lame. |
16:47 |
Ego |
Erm, entire /16 |
16:48 |
Jordach |
youre allowed to say fuck. whether ShadowBot likes it or not :D |
16:48 |
Jordach |
Ego, iptables |
16:48 |
Ego |
Yep |
16:48 |
kaeza_ |
hexawhatever again? |
16:48 |
Jordach |
kaeza_, probably not |
16:48 |
Jordach |
sweet, battery dead :) |
16:48 |
kaeza_ |
inb4 3ds dead |
16:49 |
Jordach |
nope |
16:49 |
Calinou |
blender deaed |
16:49 |
Jordach |
it used to have 1hr of usage from constant recharges, now it lasts all week |
16:49 |
Jordach |
because i let it's lithium ions die |
16:52 |
Jordach |
anyways, in London its 29*C |
16:53 |
kaeza_ |
It's 5ºC here ;_; |
16:53 |
Jordach |
lucky |
16:53 |
Jordach |
i'd kill for that |
16:53 |
* Jordach |
is shirtless |
16:53 |
kaeza_ |
yeah sure |
16:54 |
Calinou |
>lagging on MT server |
16:54 |
Calinou |
>air bar appears while in lava |
16:55 |
Calinou |
:p |
16:55 |
Calinou |
it does make sense |
16:55 |
Calinou |
it should also appear when you're in solid nodes |
16:55 |
Calinou |
(suffocation) |
16:58 |
Jordach |
\o/ my acer keyboard is breaking |
16:58 |
PenguinDad |
It's not a bug. |
16:58 |
Jordach |
brb - changing keybrd |
16:58 |
VanessaE |
put it out of is misery |
16:58 |
VanessaE |
:) |
16:59 |
PenguinDad |
There is air stored in the nodes. |
17:00 |
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17:06 |
Jordach |
awesome. i found a 1995 mechanical keyboard lying around |
17:06 |
Jordach |
cleaned it, works fine |
17:09 |
thexyz |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6571 |
17:10 |
thexyz |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6570 |
17:10 |
thexyz |
what a quality shitposting |
17:10 |
Calinou |
lol |
17:10 |
thexyz |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6564 |
17:10 |
Calinou |
Ragnar logic |
17:10 |
thexyz |
well this one is in offtopic at least |
17:11 |
Calinou |
le onpon4 started a flamewar |
17:11 |
thexyz |
time to rename offtopic to /b/ |
17:11 |
Jordach |
my suggestion is: anything you fucking want |
17:11 |
Jordach |
let's all suggest vista |
17:11 |
Jordach |
:D |
17:12 |
thexyz |
i mean, why the fuck do you ask this in minetest forums |
17:13 |
thexyz |
oh also, we're obviously not sniffing yer emails |
17:13 |
thexyz |
obviously, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SORM |
17:13 |
Zeg9 |
[quote=Ragnar]also i can PM (query/msg) you on the IRC channel .-.[/quote] |
17:13 |
Calinou |
any email provider does that unless you 1) send encrypted mail 2) receive encrypted mail |
17:14 |
Calinou |
but the sender and receiver would still be known, as well as send date |
17:14 |
thexyz |
tell that to mauvebic |
17:14 |
Calinou |
they are, but people still praise them for unknown reasons 8) |
17:14 |
Calinou |
like, "people don't know other stuffs so they are scared" |
17:15 |
thexyz |
john_minetest: well, I'm talking about the second part of his message |
17:16 |
thexyz |
I don't either |
17:16 |
Exio4 |
Calinou: people doesn't give a fuck about privacy, that is sad but the truth :< |
17:16 |
thexyz |
he's probably talking about @minetest.net email addresses |
17:16 |
Exio4 |
.ru? |
17:17 |
Calinou |
fact: mauvebic is the village drunk |
17:17 |
thexyz |
which are provided by Yandex which is a russian company |
17:17 |
Calinou |
Exio4: privacy is getting less and less relevant these days |
17:17 |
thexyz |
Exio4: no, @minetest.net |
17:17 |
Calinou |
john_minetest: you can use IRC over SSL :p |
17:17 |
thexyz |
Exio4: check MX records |
17:17 |
Calinou |
but it's still logged anyway, both serverside and clientside (idlers :D) |
17:17 |
thexyz |
yeah |
17:18 |
thexyz |
that's why his reply is not clear |
17:18 |
Exio4 |
ah |
17:18 |
Exio4 |
john_minetest: it is used for redirects though |
17:18 |
thexyz |
I only use it for github issues & in-game credits tab |
17:18 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/z6bzTzg.jpg |
17:19 |
Jordach |
^ my *new* keyboard |
17:19 |
Jordach |
everything high tect except... |
17:19 |
Exio4 |
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Linux-for-Workgroups-Linux-3-11-s-feature-set-now-confirmed-1917712.html |
17:19 |
thexyz |
john_minetest: aren't yo afraid of russia? |
17:19 |
Exio4 |
linux for workgroups :D |
17:19 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/829 lol |
17:19 |
Calinou |
john_minetest: in soviet russia, you cool russia |
17:20 |
Calinou |
Jordach: way cooler than these 90€ corsair mechanical keyboards :3 |
17:20 |
Calinou |
-1 for beer |
17:20 |
Jordach |
Calinou, energy drink |
17:20 |
Calinou |
same thing |
17:20 |
thexyz |
it's Ñоюз though |
17:20 |
Jordach |
Calinou, it also makes a sweet mechanical sound when i type now |
17:21 |
Jordach |
(it even has a coiled phone cable like lead!) |
17:21 |
thexyz |
john_minetest: do you study russian? |
17:22 |
Jordach |
Calinou, PS/2 ftw |
17:22 |
Jordach |
<- old school |
17:22 |
Jordach |
skool* |
17:22 |
Calinou |
my mobo, which is a S1155 one, still has a PS/2 port :P |
17:22 |
Calinou |
even the S1150 ones do |
17:23 |
Calinou |
same for VGA ports |
17:23 |
Exio4 |
i haz one PS/2 port |
17:23 |
Ego |
Does anyone have creative_inventory mod? |
17:23 |
Exio4 |
i have usb2.0 ports! |
17:23 |
Calinou |
no |
17:23 |
Ego |
The Dropbox link to the download is borked. |
17:23 |
Calinou |
Exio4: very few mobos, to not say "none" are 3.0-only |
17:23 |
Ego |
\ |
17:23 |
PenguinDad |
I have USB3.0 ports. |
17:24 |
Exio4 |
Calinou: i know, it was a joke |
17:24 |
Exio4 |
i have 14 (or 12, or 16, i don't recall) usb 2.0 ports :P |
17:24 |
Exio4 |
lemme check |
17:24 |
thexyz |
Jordach: how's ps/2 old school? how else would you be able to press any number of keys? |
17:25 |
Yepoleb |
yes |
17:25 |
Exio4 |
i still have my ps2 key near in case i break this usb one |
17:26 |
Exio4 |
14 x USB 2.0 port(s) (8 at back panel, black+red, 6 at mid-board) |
17:26 |
Exio4 |
only 12, aww |
17:26 |
Yepoleb |
i don't have ps2 ports :'( |
17:26 |
Ego |
Vanessae |
17:26 |
Exio4 |
Yepoleb: what? |
17:27 |
VanessaE |
WHAT!?!??! :) |
17:28 |
kaeza_ |
awwww http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6573 |
17:28 |
Ego |
You said in the thread for the creative_inventory mod that you had/were using the 0.4 git of creative_inventory , do you still have that, by any chance? |
17:28 |
kaeza_ |
Jordach: ^^^^ |
17:28 |
Ego |
0.1, 0.2, and 0.3 are linked to a Dropbox that is 404'd. |
17:28 |
Ego |
I'd really like it. |
17:29 |
Exio4 |
kaeza_: add more w(s)! |
17:29 |
VanessaE |
Ego: I use Unified Inventory, which comes with Technic, and which is taken from technic's git |
17:29 |
MarkTwain |
Someone help me choose |
17:29 |
Ego |
I'm trying to get creative inventory only for particular people.. |
17:30 |
MarkTwain |
http://marktest.co.uk/CMS/ OR http://marktest.co.uk/MEDIA/ ?? |
17:30 |
MarkTwain |
For a main page |
17:30 |
VanessaE |
that I don't know how to do, but wasn't there already a mod that does that? |
17:30 |
Ego |
There's a creative mod that you can set creative on and turn people's inventories back to survival, but there are a couple bugs with it. |
17:30 |
PenguinDad |
MarkTwain: CMS |
17:30 |
MarkTwain |
Really? |
17:30 |
MarkTwain |
But think about the load time |
17:30 |
Ego |
Mainly, they can't collect more than 1 item of things, and the pagination of the mod goes by 2s often. |
17:30 |
Ego |
Can't collect more than one if you're on survival inventory. |
17:30 |
MarkTwain |
And is it better than http://marktest.co.uk/OLD |
17:33 |
MarkTwain |
Because Random |
17:33 |
MarkTwain |
Remote Media |
17:33 |
Yepoleb |
because of #swag |
17:33 |
MarkTwain |
And other stuff that is classified |
17:33 |
Yepoleb |
and #yolo |
17:34 |
MarkTwain |
Not ONLY |
17:34 |
MarkTwain |
Thats why i need some content |
17:34 |
Ego |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5399 Vanessae |
17:35 |
Ego |
That only works if the world is already on creative, and then the people with survival inventories can only obtain 1 of each item, and the pagination is a little buggy |
17:35 |
* VanessaE |
shrugs |
17:35 |
VanessaE |
ask traxie if you can find her :) |
17:35 |
MarkTwain |
Check http://marktest.co.uk/OLD/ now |
17:36 |
MarkTwain |
images were screwed up |
17:36 |
MarkTwain |
It should explain the use |
17:36 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: last time I saw hear was like 2 months ago on xonotic :P |
17:37 |
VanessaE |
she did say she was gonna be away for a while. |
17:37 |
MarkTwain |
Who likes /MEDIA/ Better than /CMS/ |
17:38 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: she said she was "leaving for a month or so" in... april, iirc |
17:38 |
Calinou |
"and maybe forever in october" |
17:38 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
17:38 |
VanessaE |
something about a job I think it was? |
17:39 |
Calinou |
yes |
17:42 |
Ego |
Ah, if you start the game on survival with that addon, you can change people to creative, and it paginates properly, but they can't collect items at all, they can't drag items from the library to their inventory. |
17:44 |
Ego |
Would anyone know how to fix that? :o |
17:52 |
Jordach |
nope.aci |
17:52 |
Jordach |
avi* |
17:52 |
Calinou |
inb4 rickroll |
17:52 |
PenguinDad |
602 stars on github |
17:52 |
Ego |
Jordach, do I have to make a yep.avi just for you to respond in kind, ever?!?! =P |
17:55 |
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17:56 |
PenguinDad |
Matti? |
17:56 |
Mati^1 |
?? |
17:57 |
PenguinDad |
The name of one of my classmates is Matti. |
17:57 |
Mati^1 |
realy im Maciek ;) |
17:58 |
Jordach |
(okay, this keyboard works fine :) |
17:58 |
PenguinDad |
Mati^1: sorry |
17:58 |
Mati^1 |
kein problem ;) |
18:00 |
Yepoleb |
genau |
18:00 |
Mati^1 |
ja wohl ;) |
18:00 |
PenguinDad |
john_minetest: hast recht! |
18:00 |
Exio4 |
wat |
18:00 |
Exio4 |
!english |
18:01 |
Mati^1 |
überzahlbar ;) |
18:02 |
Yepoleb |
ist der channel schon übernommen? |
18:03 |
Exio4 |
would be possible to switch to english, now? |
18:04 |
PenguinDad |
They are talking about things that you don't need to know. |
18:04 |
Exio4 |
world domination? |
18:04 |
Exio4 |
pr0n? |
18:04 |
Exio4 |
what? :> |
18:05 |
PenguinDad |
Channel domination! |
18:05 |
Yepoleb |
yeah, world domination |
18:05 |
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18:06 |
Yepoleb |
perfect plan |
18:06 |
* Exio4 |
shutdows john_minetest's multivers |
18:06 |
Exio4 |
e |
18:06 |
PenguinDad |
Good plan! \o/ |
18:07 |
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18:07 |
MarkTwain |
It works! |
18:07 |
MarkTwain |
No leave function though |
18:07 |
MarkTwain |
:) |
18:08 |
Yepoleb |
can shaders be installed as a mod? |
18:10 |
NekoGloopMkIII |
wazzup |
18:12 |
MarkTwain |
If anyone is interested, i am testing my bot on #mtm |
18:13 |
MarkTwain |
what command disconnects from irc? |
18:14 |
Exio4 |
MarkTwain: nobody cares |
18:14 |
MarkTwain |
Im not offering to tell you! |
18:14 |
Exio4 |
Yepoleb: nope, shaders are "in" client/shaders/ |
18:14 |
MarkTwain |
I am asking ! |
18:14 |
Yepoleb |
thanks |
18:14 |
Exio4 |
though you can't do much with them right now |
18:15 |
Yepoleb |
why? |
18:16 |
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18:22 |
Ego |
It seems Traxie is my only hope.. /cry /wrist |
18:23 |
Calinou |
cry on your wrist |
18:24 |
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18:24 |
Yepoleb |
Why can't you do mucht with the shaders? |
18:24 |
MasterBot |
I am not a bot |
18:24 |
MasterBot |
Just testing the nick |
18:24 |
MasterBot |
So, how's life? |
18:24 |
VanessaE |
shaders are still somewhat new |
18:25 |
VanessaE |
so we don't have a lot of actual shader types yet |
18:25 |
Mati^1 |
and this is my new bunker http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ST63gwDs2o&hd=1 Jurata polen ;D |
18:25 |
VanessaE |
(just brighter tops/darker bottoms, the water height thing, and bumpmapping) |
18:26 |
MarkTwain |
Who likes this format: |
18:26 |
MarkTwain |
[ #minetest ] MarkTwain : Who likes this format: |
18:27 |
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18:27 |
VanessaE |
for what? |
18:27 |
VanessaE |
(what medium I mean) |
18:27 |
Yepoleb |
how can i enable the water height thing? |
18:27 |
* VanessaE |
puts a puppy on NekoGloopMkIII's head (the kitten generator's glitching out again) |
18:27 |
VanessaE |
Yepoleb: just turn shaders on in the Settings menu |
18:28 |
VanessaE |
or enable_shaders = true in minetest.conf |
18:28 |
VanessaE |
(or = 2 if your minetest is not very recent) |
18:28 |
Yepoleb |
what should it do? |
18:28 |
NekoGloopMkIII |
That doesn't use shaders anymore, does it? |
18:28 |
VanessaE |
it lowers the height of water source nodes by roughly 2 pixels |
18:28 |
VanessaE |
(to look similar to MC) |
18:29 |
Yepoleb |
the darker corners work, but the water doesn't |
18:29 |
VanessaE |
darker corners? |
18:30 |
Yepoleb |
the shadow in the corners |
18:30 |
VanessaE |
oh |
18:30 |
VanessaE |
(that's a shader?) |
18:30 |
Yepoleb |
idk |
18:30 |
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18:31 |
VanessaE |
hey Taoki. |
18:31 |
Taoki |
hi |
18:32 |
Taoki |
Yay for KDE update ^^ |
18:32 |
Yepoleb |
oh, it's not |
18:32 |
VanessaE |
XFCE ftw |
18:34 |
Yepoleb |
how can i check if the shaders are actually enabled? |
18:34 |
VanessaE |
look in your minetest.conf |
18:34 |
VanessaE |
it'll mention it, if they've ever been enabled/disabled before |
18:34 |
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18:34 |
MasterBot |
hello |
18:35 |
MasterBot |
Its me again |
18:35 |
VanessaE |
hi |
18:35 |
MasterBot |
Il go to #bots now, bye |
18:35 |
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18:38 |
Yepoleb |
i'm using the minetest ppa, but when i start the game it says VER=0.4.7 BUILD_TYPE=Release |
18:39 |
VanessaE |
ti always does |
18:39 |
VanessaE |
it* |
18:39 |
VanessaE |
git/nightly builds don't have a "special" version number. |
18:40 |
VanessaE |
(and "release" is the normal setting regardless of when it was pulled) |
18:43 |
Yepoleb |
i will build it myself and try if it works |
18:43 |
VanessaE |
it's pretty easy to build, at least in linux |
18:43 |
* NekoGloopMkIII |
sits in an office chair and spins around |
18:43 |
Jordach |
\O/ http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99891#p99891 |
18:43 |
* Jordach |
is happy |
18:45 |
Yepoleb |
can i use -j 4 instead of -j2? |
18:45 |
VanessaE |
use whatever value is appropriate to the number of cores you have |
18:45 |
VanessaE |
if you have two, use -j3. if you have four, use -j5, etc |
18:46 |
Yepoleb |
why -j5 with 4 cores? |
18:46 |
VanessaE |
because it ensures that all 4 cores are kept saturated through the entire build, or as much as possible anyway |
18:47 |
Yepoleb |
i'm using -j 4 and it uses 100% on all cores |
18:47 |
proller |
because io slower than core |
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18:49 |
Jordach |
MinetestBot! |
18:49 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach! |
18:49 |
Jordach |
hai sweetie |
18:51 |
Yepoleb |
the shaders don't work, although i enabled them |
18:52 |
Exio4 |
how do you know they don't work? |
18:52 |
VanessaE |
Yepoleb: what video card? |
18:54 |
Yepoleb |
nvidia geforce 560ti with driver version 313.30 |
18:54 |
Exio4 |
i ask other time |
18:54 |
Exio4 |
how do you know they don't work? |
18:55 |
Yepoleb |
the water is still a full block |
18:55 |
VanessaE |
what version of irrlicht? |
18:56 |
Exio4 |
yathat is new_style_weate |
18:56 |
Exio4 |
water |
18:56 |
Exio4 |
(other option) |
18:56 |
Exio4 |
that isn't managed by shaders anymore |
18:56 |
Exio4 |
since 0.4.5 iirc? |
18:57 |
Yepoleb |
irrlicht is version 1.7.3 |
18:57 |
VanessaE |
odd, it should be working. |
18:57 |
Exio4 |
new_style_water = true in your minetest.conf |
18:57 |
Exio4 |
VanessaE, Yepoleb, can you please remove me of your ignore list? |
18:57 |
Exio4 |
:| |
18:57 |
VanessaE |
I'm not ignoring you, Exio4 |
18:57 |
VanessaE |
I just missed that part |
18:57 |
Exio4 |
good |
18:58 |
VanessaE |
(I'm a little slow on the uptake lately) |
18:58 |
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18:59 |
Yepoleb |
new_style_water works \o/ |
18:59 |
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19:02 |
thexyz |
http://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_posts&user_id=6664 |
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19:12 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
Greetings :o) |
19:12 |
Jordach |
!rev Yrol_Denjeah |
19:12 |
MinetestBot |
haejneD_lorY |
19:13 |
Jordach |
nuthin useful |
19:13 |
Jordach |
Yrol_Denjeah, your name looks reversed, which it isnt |
19:13 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99945#p99945 inb4 ragnar in full caps lock on -dev "CAN I HAZ OTHER NAME!" |
19:13 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
oO |
19:13 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: probably |
19:13 |
Jordach |
lock it |
19:13 |
Jordach |
best option |
19:14 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: i already asked c55 |
19:14 |
thexyz |
http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2013-07-15#i_3199520 |
19:14 |
ehcneM |
he wants to change his name to something that can't be pronounced? |
19:14 |
Jordach |
hey ehcneM |
19:14 |
Jordach |
/nick menche |
19:15 |
ehcneM |
(well, my name can't be really pronounced backwords either) |
19:15 |
Jordach |
also: there is nothing wrong with mediafire; just adf.ly is wrong |
19:15 |
ehcneM |
mediafire force-feeds you ads before letting you download |
19:15 |
Jordach |
ehcneM, no |
19:15 |
ehcneM |
you can't wget from mediafire |
19:15 |
thexyz |
we should have a rule stating that all links should be wget-able |
19:15 |
Jordach |
that's why i like adblock |
19:15 |
Menche |
not having direct links is really annoying |
19:15 |
Jordach |
thexyz, good bye to modders |
19:15 |
thexyz |
bye |
19:15 |
Jordach |
who've converted |
19:16 |
* Menche |
waves |
19:16 |
Jordach |
from that *other* game |
19:16 |
thexyz |
are there any? |
19:16 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, +1 for that rule |
19:16 |
Jordach |
thexyz, nope |
19:16 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
Why are the worlds i delete from within the game not deleted? |
19:16 |
Jordach |
but the only other file upload place that does wget-able crap is sfan5.dyndns.org:8080/uplaod |
19:16 |
thexyz |
oh well, there will be mod database some day |
19:16 |
Jordach |
upload* |
19:16 |
Jordach |
sfan5.dyndns.org:8080/upload |
19:17 |
thexyz |
github? |
19:17 |
Menche |
github, dropbox, U1... |
19:17 |
Jordach |
not many people know of U1, Dropbox isn't used with MC Modders |
19:17 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: please use sfan5.duckdns.org, as my dyndns account could expire if I don't sign in |
19:17 |
Jordach |
and surefire way of knowing that they probably dont have gittyhubby |
19:18 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: then the noobs would ask "what is wget-able?????" |
19:18 |
Jordach |
leave it as is; mediafire works for me |
19:18 |
Menche |
and annoys everyone else |
19:18 |
Jordach |
(not to mention you have tools like r-sync |
19:18 |
Jordach |
) |
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19:18 |
Yepoleb |
what is wget-able????? |
19:18 |
thexyz |
sfan5: well we should reword it |
19:19 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, "wget should return 0" |
19:19 |
Exio4 |
lol |
19:19 |
PilzAdam |
then we get rid of all the noobs |
19:19 |
thexyz |
we need mod database |
19:19 |
Menche |
github (or another vcs host) is the definitive best way of distributing mods |
19:19 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: that'll teach them |
19:19 |
Menche |
don't need to extract a stupid archive and updating is a single command |
19:19 |
Yepoleb |
noo, dont get rid of the noobs |
19:20 |
asdd444 |
If anyone has a black screen when ingame,on a Toshiba laptop with a Intel i3,switch all the options on.That worked,oddly enough. |
19:20 |
Jordach |
asdd444, scale the window |
19:20 |
Jordach |
should fix it |
19:20 |
asdd444 |
No,i've already fixed it.I just mentioned how. |
19:20 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: would you mind giving me the necessary privilege so I can move individual posts? |
19:21 |
VanessaE |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99918#p99918 --> trash |
19:21 |
Jordach |
we need a place called: hall of shame |
19:21 |
Menche |
LOL |
19:21 |
Jordach |
where trolling posts go |
19:22 |
Menche |
thinks he needs a central account to join servers? |
19:22 |
Yepoleb |
whats trolling? |
19:22 |
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19:22 |
Menche |
it's not like there's a "connect" button when you don't have an account... oh wait there is... |
19:22 |
Menche |
some people... |
19:23 |
PilzAdam |
Yepoleb, what you are currently doing ;-) |
19:23 |
Jordach |
Yepoleb, you just did it: blindly "knowing" a fact when you say it's wrong |
19:24 |
Menche |
VanessaE: having a problem with pipeworks on my server |
19:24 |
Yepoleb |
PilzAdam: i'm eating crisps |
19:24 |
Menche |
10:32:15: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: /home/menche/.minetest/mods/pipeworks/item_transport.lua:62: attempt to index a nil value |
19:24 |
VanessaE |
whats the problem? |
19:24 |
VanessaE |
ah |
19:24 |
Menche |
it crashes with that message whenever a certain player logs in |
19:24 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
Jordach, no, thats called parenting... |
19:24 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: moderators already have all possible permissions enabled |
19:25 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, bad post -> trashcan |
19:25 |
asdd444 |
...Ok,turns out that the black screen i had was actually because i was stuck in a tree,and Fancy Trees fixed it. |
19:25 |
Jordach |
asdd444, D: |
19:25 |
Yepoleb |
Jordach: don't put VanessaE into the trashcan! |
19:25 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: I've never seen any option to move posts. |
19:25 |
VanessaE |
(just whole threads) |
19:26 |
Menche |
and has anyone figured out how to delete polls? |
19:26 |
Menche |
*yet* |
19:26 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: well, you click "moderate topic", then select posts, then click "Delete whole topic" |
19:26 |
thexyz |
uh, i mean move selected posts |
19:26 |
thexyz |
this shit is unselectable |
19:27 |
PilzAdam |
someone booted with --verbose today: http://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_posts&user_id=5858 |
19:27 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: OH! |
19:27 |
VanessaE |
I've never clicked that option |
19:27 |
thexyz |
woo |
19:27 |
VanessaE |
Menche: I think I see the problem, lemme see if I can fix it |
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19:29 |
Jordach |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99954#p99954 |
19:29 |
Jordach |
:P |
19:29 |
Jordach |
hey Calinou |
19:29 |
Calinou |
hi |
19:29 |
VanessaE |
Menche: try this at line 62: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5878507/ |
19:30 |
VanessaE |
make that change, sign in as the affected user, and tell me if that fixed it |
19:30 |
Calinou |
99954! soon to have a PID 100000 post |
19:30 |
VanessaE |
somehow you've got an unknown pipeworks-related node in there |
19:31 |
hdastwb |
autocrafters seemed to not have any textures… |
19:31 |
VanessaE |
Menche: or try this if that doesn't work: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5878510/ |
19:32 |
VanessaE |
I'm still new at using that particular call |
19:33 |
kahrl |
When I tested the node definition vector commit, I had a mod that registered thousands of nodes |
19:33 |
kahrl |
Which got me wondering again how the long item visual preload time that stems from that could possibly be reduced |
19:33 |
VanessaE |
Menche: or if that second one doesn't work, try this third one: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5878520/ |
19:33 |
Menche |
unfortunately, i decided to do a /clearobjects a few minutes ago, so i'll have to wait a bit before being able to test that :P |
19:34 |
VanessaE |
Menche: that won't have any effect |
19:34 |
Menche |
it takes a while on my server; at least it doesn't crash anymore |
19:34 |
VanessaE |
but ok |
19:34 |
VanessaE |
try all three, one at a time |
19:34 |
sokomine |
kahrl: by disabling preload_items_visual. it helped me a lot when i disabled that option. before, it took ages to connect to a world. now it's pretty fast again |
19:34 |
Jordach |
99960 Calinou |
19:34 |
Menche |
there were a lot of duplicated entities littered around |
19:34 |
kahrl |
sokomine: I know about that option, but it just moves the time to in-game |
19:34 |
Menche |
it needed to have that done |
19:35 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: the main time hog is how the extrude routine switches between opaque and transparent pixels - the closer you are to 50% of the pixels being transparent (not I don't mean 50% alpha), the longer it takes. |
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19:35 |
kahrl |
sokomine: which could be very not cool if such a frametime spike happens to happen when you get attacked by a horde mobs |
19:35 |
sokomine |
menches server suffers from too many objects (as do many current servers :-(). redcrabs to my knowledge does not seem to be affected, so it was probably introduced in one of the newer versions |
19:35 |
kahrl |
VanessaE: well, in the case I tested, the extrude routine was not called at all |
19:35 |
VanessaE |
oh? |
19:36 |
kahrl |
VanessaE: remember, these were all nodes (drawtype normal) |
19:36 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: oh cubes, ok. |
19:36 |
kahrl |
so, my first idea was to simply use createCubeMesh instead of the mesh generator for NDT_NORMAL... minor benefit, but still very slow |
19:36 |
VanessaE |
plants will do it (junglegrass and dry shrubs were the big ones when I was first making HDX) |
19:36 |
Exio4 |
recode it in ASM kahrl |
19:36 |
sokomine |
kahrl: no problem about moving the time to in-game. there are seldom many nodes used at one spot, and accessing your locked chest got so horribly slow on servers that the short time it takes to render these images plain simply does not matter |
19:36 |
Jordach |
99964 post id |
19:37 |
Menche |
a view of the duplicated entites on my server in an unloaded block: http://imgur.com/jIOkjNB |
19:37 |
Jordach |
oh crap, im over posting for once |
19:37 |
Jordach |
dun dun durr |
19:37 |
sokomine |
it has only an effect if you're using a craftguide. even then you might want to pause from time to time to actually look at the nodes presented. and real buildings stick to a much more limited amound of nodes |
19:37 |
kahrl |
sokomine: maybe it's bearable, but I like the idea that the game has done all the heavy work before the game starts |
19:38 |
kahrl |
and it would be nice if that entire part of the codebase could be optimized, in any case |
19:38 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: what I don't understand is why we're even bothering to extrude or render to texture at all - why not extrude only when a wield item needs it, but display the real in-game objects otherwise? |
19:38 |
sokomine |
kahrl: for that framerate drop, the item duplication bug (or whatever it is) is more than enough. the preload_items_visual delay is very mild by comparison :-) |
19:38 |
sokomine |
but maybe that's just my experience because my machine and graphics card got slightly faster (not really much...) |
19:39 |
Jordach |
breaking up fights: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99965#p99965 |
19:39 |
Jordach |
i aint your friggin moderator |
19:39 |
Jordach |
either hire me or dont |
19:39 |
* Calinou |
hires Jordach as pony |
19:39 |
Jordach |
mauvebic + onpon4 = flame war |
19:39 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: that is to say, is render-to-texture even needed at all to display an object in the actual world, or is it just needed for the inventory et.al? |
19:39 |
* Jordach |
runs for it |
19:39 |
Jordach |
no noooo! |
19:39 |
kahrl |
VanessaE: well, no using render-to-texture would be a nice way of doing it if it could be done |
19:40 |
kahrl |
because I profiled all the parts of the code that were left |
19:40 |
Calinou |
"or perhaps by selling programming services" |
19:40 |
Calinou |
hurr durr |
19:40 |
Exio4 |
optimize the 10% |
19:40 |
Exio4 |
not the 90? :P |
19:40 |
Calinou |
you need to sell them to companies that make closed source :P |
19:40 |
kahrl |
every part took 0ms or 1ms, except one part that took 15ms-20ms |
19:40 |
kahrl |
that part was rendering to the texture |
19:40 |
sokomine |
kahrl: yes, optimizing that would be fine. until that's done, i've decided for myshelf that preload_items_visual off saves my nerves a lot |
19:40 |
kahrl |
and it's just a 64x64 texture and a simple cube mesh |
19:41 |
asdd444 |
...I have a idea for a mod.I've been implementing it myself,but i wonder if it's actually worth implementing.If you want a link to the infomation,just tell me. |
19:41 |
Exio4 |
kahrl: make it multithreaded |
19:41 |
* Exio4 |
runs |
19:41 |
Exio4 |
:P |
19:42 |
sokomine |
asdd: what does the mod do? |
19:42 |
* kahrl |
is too old and slow to catch Exio4 :P |
19:42 |
Exio4 |
aw |
19:42 |
Exio4 |
anyway, really |
19:43 |
Exio4 |
wouldn't be possible to make that process "multithreaded"? |
19:43 |
asdd444 |
It's a automatic mining system,but it only mines down,dosen't give items yet, |
19:43 |
asdd444 |
and the materials used to craft it can be used to destroy the world. |
19:43 |
Calinou |
inb4 making minetest into chromium |
19:43 |
kahrl |
VanessaE: the question is if it's possible to set up irrlicht (z buffer, projection/world view matrix, lights, ...) properly during the GUI rendering |
19:43 |
kahrl |
Exio4: not really, irrlicht expects you to do all rendering on the main thread |
19:43 |
sokomine |
used to destroy the world? in the way of a pick, lava, or crash the server? |
19:43 |
kahrl |
afaik |
19:44 |
Exio4 |
kahrl: damn |
19:44 |
asdd444 |
Sokomine,it spreads about and eats everything.It's called "Decay" in my document: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/NOTES.txt |
19:44 |
kahrl |
well, another option would be to not use irrlicht's render-to-texture to make images of cubes, but use our own software rendering code |
19:45 |
Exio4 |
but |
19:45 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: well surely it's "possible" |
19:45 |
Exio4 |
how fast is it? |
19:45 |
sokomine |
ah, ok. best introduce it in modding general then, asdd. there may be players who like it |
19:45 |
VanessaE |
nearly anything is, it's more a matter of how much work it'll take |
19:45 |
kahrl |
if we were using plain opengl it'd be trivial |
19:46 |
kahrl |
maybe it's trivial with irrlicht too, but I don't know |
19:46 |
asdd444 |
Sokomine,of course,the world-destroying thing may make the kind of people who blow up their own(and other peoples) houses on minecraft happy...uhoh. |
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19:49 |
asdd444 |
...I've already implemented a sort-of working prototype of the mod,if anyone wants it. |
19:49 |
sokomine |
as long as it requires server owners to install your mod it ought to be ok? it would'nt get installed on a building server i think. perhaps more in singleplayer worlds for players who feel in a mood to destroy anything. unless you have found a bug that threatens all worlds? |
19:50 |
asdd444 |
Nope.It's not a bug,either.It requires the server owner to install it,on their server,and then someone has to be stupid enough to place a block labeled "Decay".And it dosen't do anything when |
19:50 |
asdd444 |
unloaded. |
19:51 |
Menche |
there's no way for a client mod to do anything on a server. Only server mods matter. |
19:53 |
asdd444 |
Here's a mod targeted for single player people who want to either watch the world be destroyed,or simply make small holes.Depends what items you use: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/testevil.7z |
19:53 |
sokomine |
well, then the mod ought to be ok. just tell people not to install it on servers where people built |
19:53 |
asdd444 |
...Yes,i very strongly recommend that... |
19:53 |
VanessaE |
Menche: any chance you could kill/restart your server and try one of those three patches? I expect the third one is the right way. |
19:54 |
asdd444 |
Also,the label of that file,the NOTES.txt file within it...I think that no-one's going to accidently install it and wreck their server. |
19:54 |
VanessaE |
I'd like to push this to pipeworks git if it solves the issue. |
19:55 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, see what I did there? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6573 |
19:55 |
Menche |
VanessaE: is that in addition to or in place of the if statement there? |
19:55 |
VanessaE |
in place of. |
19:55 |
Jordach |
i see one spelling error |
19:56 |
Jordach |
and bullshit about not having a life: i have a girlfriend |
19:56 |
Jordach |
and it aint MinetestBot -- despite what it seems |
19:56 |
Jordach |
:P |
19:56 |
Calinou |
haha |
19:56 |
asdd444 |
Jorach instead of Jordach? |
19:56 |
Calinou |
3000 posts? never noticed |
19:56 |
* Jordach |
is also at legal age |
19:56 |
Menche |
!sfu Jordach |
19:56 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach Member 3,253 posts, registered on 2011-10-03 | id: 332 |
19:57 |
Calinou |
!sfu Calinou |
19:57 |
MinetestBot |
Calinou Moderator 2,025 posts, registered on 2011-08-01 | id: 194 |
19:57 |
Jordach |
!sfu PilzAdam |
19:57 |
MinetestBot |
PilzAdam Developer 2,951 posts, registered on 2012-07-20 | id: 2443 |
19:57 |
Menche |
!sfu Menche |
19:57 |
Calinou |
reached 2000 recently :D |
19:57 |
MinetestBot |
Menche Member 915 posts, registered on 2011-07-02 | id: 153 |
19:57 |
Menche |
:( |
19:57 |
PilzAdam |
ShadowBot, OP MinetestBot |
19:57 |
Calinou |
TIL Menche beats me at registration date |
19:57 |
* Menche |
is not very chatty |
19:57 |
asdd444 |
Since you seem to be having fun saying Sfu,i'll say !nyan Nyan! Nya! |
19:57 |
PilzAdam |
MinetestBot! |
19:57 |
MinetestBot |
PilzAdam! |
19:57 |
* Jordach |
hopes !op works |
19:57 |
Jordach |
!op |
19:57 |
Jordach |
dammit MinetestBot |
19:58 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: nope.avi |
19:58 |
Jordach |
shush PilzAdam in disguise |
19:58 |
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19:58 |
asdd444 |
What,does the @ mean it's in disguise? |
19:59 |
Jordach |
the @ symbol means they can control the channel's configurations |
19:59 |
Jordach |
such as who can mute a person, etc |
19:59 |
Jordach |
remove a person from the chat |
19:59 |
Jordach |
etc.. |
19:59 |
RealBadAngel |
or simply kick someone in the ass ;) |
19:59 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, for once i can say your code is better than sapier's |
20:00 |
asdd444 |
Just thinking,because Minetestbot sounded like a bot without the @,and then it didn't when it had the conversation with PilzAdam. |
20:00 |
* MinetestBot |
kicks RealBadAngel |
20:00 |
RealBadAngel |
hehe, Jordach, which one? |
20:00 |
Jordach |
he fucked up formspecs |
20:00 |
Jordach |
you didnt |
20:00 |
MinetestBot |
I'm a good bot, I can pass the Turing test! |
20:00 |
Jordach |
(anyone using master wont work with the stable.) |
20:00 |
Jordach |
MinetestBot, bullshit sweetie |
20:00 |
asdd444 |
Haha,who's pretending to be MinetestBot. |
20:00 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam is |
20:00 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: no u |
20:01 |
Jordach |
see |
20:01 |
asdd444 |
You are a bad bot.Naughty bot! Bad,bad,bot! |
20:01 |
Jordach |
MinetestBot has some secret commands to allow her to talk as a normal person |
20:01 |
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asdd444 was kicked by MinetestBot: NO! |
20:01 |
* Jordach |
claps |
20:01 |
Menche |
MinetestBot has a temper too |
20:01 |
* Calinou |
clops |
20:01 |
* Jordach |
claps |
20:01 |
* Menche |
ducks |
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20:02 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, /)(\ |
20:02 |
Jordach |
ow bitch |
20:02 |
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20:02 |
Calinou |
bro hoof :D |
20:02 |
Jordach |
smashed my hand!! |
20:02 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, clopping |
20:02 |
asdd444 |
...I'm sure MinetestBot didn't do that by itself. |
20:02 |
PilzAdam |
asdd444, the @ means you can do that |
20:02 |
Calinou |
lol |
20:02 |
* Calinou |
is playing #wolfgame |
20:02 |
asdd444 |
Yes,Pilzadam,but i think it's not really the bot speaking when it has the @. |
20:03 |
Exio4 |
MlnetestBot |
20:03 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
oO |
20:03 |
Calinou |
my little NekoGloop test Bot |
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20:06 |
Calinou |
a wild Naked joins |
20:06 |
* PilzAdam |
shoots it |
20:06 |
Naked |
o/ |
20:07 |
NekoGloopMkII |
meow |
20:07 |
Calinou |
Naked, /) |
20:08 |
asdd444 |
Pilzadam,that's a bit mean.Anyway,a wild Asdd444 appeared,and used Give You A Present That Acts As A Shield For Naked.Why? I don't know,it seemed like a good idea at the time. |
20:08 |
NekoGloopMkII |
Hey, dude, use spacing on your punctuation. |
20:09 |
Exio4 |
i'm seriously thinking asdd444 is a random troll |
20:09 |
Naked |
yes he uses capital letters for all words |
20:09 |
Naked |
trolls do that |
20:10 |
Exio4 |
or at least a very annoying guy |
20:10 |
Exio4 |
that is :> |
20:10 |
Calinou |
by that logic, micheal larabel is a troll |
20:10 |
Calinou |
:-) |
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20:11 |
pehjota |
Calinou: You mean he isn't? </troll> :) |
20:11 |
asdd444 |
I could tell you why that is actually more correct than no caps on the move name, but that might annoy you more. |
20:12 |
pehjota |
Yeah, Pikachu uses Thunderbolt, not thunderbolt. |
20:12 |
VanessaE |
Menche: *poke* |
20:14 |
asdd444 |
Ok, as for the multiple word issue, Dragon Rage is capitalized the way I just said it. |
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20:15 |
NekoGloopMkII |
Ironic that I'm making a Fire Red rom hack atm |
20:15 |
Menche |
VanessaE: trying to find where he was |
20:16 |
Menche |
for some reason his current location is above the cloud layer |
20:17 |
hdastwb |
carl? |
20:17 |
Menche |
yeah |
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20:17 |
Menche |
hdastwb: you said you had unknown items in your inventory? |
20:18 |
hdastwb |
yes, about 30 of them |
20:18 |
asdd444 |
Ok...2 NekoGloops. |
20:18 |
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20:18 |
NekoGloopMkIII |
ignore my shitty connection to freenode |
20:18 |
hdastwb |
I don't remember what I put there… |
20:19 |
Menche |
you have 27 of pipeworks:sand_tube_000000 |
20:19 |
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20:19 |
Menche |
48 of farming_weed, 32 default:steel_ingot |
20:19 |
Menche |
don't see anything strange with about 30 items |
20:20 |
hdastwb |
hmm; I moved them around a bit; the server was lagging pretty badly, so they might be in separate stacks… |
20:20 |
Menche |
yeah you have 2 stacks of sand tubes |
20:20 |
hdastwb |
I'm trying to sign back in and get another look at it, but I'm not connecting |
20:21 |
hdastwb |
there we go |
20:22 |
Menche |
aaand it's using up full cpu again |
20:22 |
* Menche |
's server is somewhat ill |
20:22 |
hdastwb |
should I stop trying to connect? |
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Calinou |
night |
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Yepoleb |
night |
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VanessaE |
Menche: well when you find the right spot, let me know |
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* NekoGloopMkIII |
puts a kitten on VanessaE's head |
20:49 |
* VanessaE |
puts the kitten in OldCoder's pile. |
20:51 |
bas080 |
I don't get the Schematic type parameters for the register decorations function. How does the schematic = table work? |
20:51 |
bas080 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L2139 |
20:53 |
bas080 |
schematic = { |
20:53 |
bas080 |
size = {x=4, y=6, z=4}, --what is size? |
20:53 |
bas080 |
data = { |
20:53 |
bas080 |
{name="cobble", param1=0, param2=0}, |
20:53 |
bas080 |
{name="dirt_with_grass", param1=0, param2=0}, |
20:53 |
bas080 |
... |
20:53 |
bas080 |
} --what what is parm1 and param2? |
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Menche |
lol |
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20:55 |
Menche |
bas080: use pastebin.com or similar for that |
20:55 |
bas080 |
sorry for that. i should have expected. |
20:55 |
bas080 |
Thnx Menche |
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bas080 |
http://pastebin.com/wW4rrxeb |
20:59 |
bas080 |
that should explain what i was wondering |
21:00 |
* NekoGloop |
eats a cookei |
21:00 |
OldCoder |
Hi! |
21:01 |
NekoGloop |
wassup |
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21:13 |
GNADev|zRokh |
aye doods! |
21:14 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Its me, SteveWarfare aka Ragnar :D |
21:14 |
VanessaE |
GNADev? |
21:14 |
VanessaE |
wtf? |
21:14 |
GNADev|zRokh |
yes |
21:14 |
GNADev|zRokh |
:D |
21:14 |
Menche |
4 different usernames? |
21:14 |
GNADev|zRokh |
more then that! |
21:15 |
GNADev|zRokh |
6 maybe... |
21:15 |
VanessaE |
pick a name damn it |
21:15 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i dont remember |
21:15 |
GNADev|zRokh |
:D |
21:15 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Knock knock. Who there. Potato. Oooh, opens door. Is secret police. |
21:15 |
Exio4 |
VanessaE: he will get bored of this in two years |
21:15 |
Exio4 |
when he reads the logs and says |
21:16 |
Exio4 |
HOW THE FUCK I WAS THAT IDIOT AND ANNOYING GODDAMNIT |
21:16 |
Exio4 |
that will happen if he gets a brain later ^ |
21:16 |
GNADev|zRokh |
if i dont have a brain how did i learn English at the age of 6? |
21:16 |
GNADev|zRokh |
in Kindergarden... |
21:16 |
* Menche |
learned English earlier... |
21:16 |
GNADev|zRokh |
and i know why kindergarden is called what it is |
21:17 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Kinder == Children in German |
21:17 |
Exio4 |
OH MAN, THAT IS AMAZING |
21:17 |
* Menche |
totally didn't know that </sarcasm> |
21:17 |
GNADev|zRokh |
AND im also NOT brittish/american! |
21:17 |
VanessaE |
explain the GNA part. Now. |
21:17 |
Menche |
wooo |
21:17 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Gaming + DNA |
21:17 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Dev as in Developement Team :D |
21:17 |
VanessaE |
ok |
21:18 |
GNADev|zRokh |
remember Artur99? |
21:18 |
Exio4 |
GNADev|zRokh: how many languages do you speak? |
21:18 |
GNADev|zRokh |
yeah... |
21:18 |
Menche |
gaming nucleic acid? |
21:18 |
Exio4 |
:> |
21:18 |
Exio4 |
i speak about 6 |
21:18 |
GNADev|zRokh |
4 |
21:18 |
GNADev|zRokh |
no, 5! |
21:18 |
GNADev|zRokh |
English, Estonian, Russian, Python and Java |
21:18 |
GNADev|zRokh |
.-. |
21:19 |
Menche |
you can have a conversation in Java? |
21:19 |
GNADev|zRokh |
yes |
21:19 |
GNADev|zRokh |
.-. |
21:19 |
Exio4 |
Menche: that would suck |
21:19 |
Exio4 |
40 lines per message |
21:19 |
NekoGloop |
I hear the Java natives are very tempermental |
21:19 |
GNADev|zRokh |
false; |
21:19 |
Exio4 |
then you don't speak java pretty well |
21:19 |
GNADev|zRokh |
false; |
21:20 |
Exio4 |
GNADev|zRokh: do you know what what imperative programming is? |
21:20 |
NekoGloop |
this is how you speak java, just return false |
21:20 |
Menche |
public static void main() |
21:20 |
Exio4 |
inb4 wikipedia |
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21:20 |
NekoGloop |
s/what// |
21:20 |
Menche |
void main() == BAD |
21:20 |
Exio4 |
you're using google now GNADev|zRokh, no? |
21:20 |
Exio4 |
NekoGloop: lol, didn't see that error |
21:20 |
GNADev|zRokh |
false; |
21:21 |
Exio4 |
do you have a brain? |
21:21 |
Exio4 |
:> |
21:21 |
GNADev|zRokh |
true; |
21:21 |
NekoGloop |
Oh, hold on |
21:21 |
NekoGloop |
I think his program has a bug |
21:21 |
NekoGloop |
Shouldn't have returned true there. |
21:21 |
Exio4 |
NekoGloop: I see |
21:21 |
* Menche |
doesn't believe that "false;" by itself is a valid statement |
21:21 |
NekoGloop |
It isn't :P |
21:21 |
Menche |
GNADev|zRokh fails |
21:22 |
* Kacey |
is going to make a "what's inside the cube?" map |
21:22 |
* Exio4 |
recodes GNADev|zRokh in Haskell |
21:22 |
GNADev|zRokh |
want me to make a little program in Java? |
21:22 |
GNADev|zRokh |
as fast as i can? |
21:22 |
Exio4 |
make a program that will show a pyramid like: |
21:22 |
Exio4 |
* |
21:22 |
Exio4 |
** |
21:22 |
GNADev|zRokh |
with 1 java file |
21:22 |
Exio4 |
*** |
21:22 |
Exio4 |
do it in 30 minutes or less |
21:22 |
GNADev|zRokh |
OK! |
21:22 |
GNADev|zRokh |
*challenge accepted* |
21:23 |
* Menche |
goes to do it in plain C |
21:23 |
Exio4 |
that is a stupid meme |
21:23 |
NekoGloop |
29 minutes. |
21:23 |
Exio4 |
NekoGloop: you'll be my clock, k? |
21:23 |
GNADev|zRokh |
wait...stop the countdown... |
21:23 |
Exio4 |
Menche: ASM is the way to go |
21:23 |
GNADev|zRokh |
do you want the source code or the .jar file? |
21:23 |
GNADev|zRokh |
.-. |
21:23 |
Exio4 |
source code |
21:23 |
GNADev|zRokh |
ok! |
21:23 |
NekoGloop |
Exio4, nah |
21:23 |
GNADev|zRokh |
restart countdown! |
21:23 |
Exio4 |
[18:23:40] <GNADev|zRokh> restart countdown! |
21:23 |
Exio4 |
you see the time |
21:23 |
GNADev|zRokh |
yes |
21:24 |
Exio4 |
for the 18:53:40 i want it, can be before though ;) |
21:24 |
GNADev|zRokh |
it shall be done before 18:54 |
21:24 |
Exio4 |
it needs to be dynamic btw |
21:24 |
Exio4 |
not just print * then ** and then *** |
21:25 |
GNADev|zRokh |
can i only use native libraries or can i import my own? |
21:25 |
VanessaE |
guys, what's the format() call supposed to do? |
21:25 |
GNADev|zRokh |
.-. |
21:25 |
VanessaE |
it's not documented in the API (or I don't see it anyways) |
21:25 |
GNADev|zRokh |
format maybe? |
21:25 |
NekoGloop |
it makes a pie |
21:25 |
Exio4 |
GNADev|zRokh: it is two nested for(s) + print |
21:25 |
Exio4 |
... |
21:26 |
* Menche |
doesn't know how you could use extra libraries for that |
21:26 |
Exio4 |
& |
21:26 |
Exio4 |
^ * |
21:27 |
GNADev|zRokh |
hey Exio and Menche, got AIM/Google Talk? |
21:27 |
Menche |
no and no |
21:27 |
GNADev|zRokh |
ok... |
21:29 |
Exio4 |
nope |
21:29 |
Exio4 |
k, in 3 minutes i coded it |
21:29 |
Exio4 |
he left |
21:29 |
Exio4 |
can i have a cookie at least |
21:29 |
Menche |
lol |
21:29 |
* Menche |
has almost coded it (in C) |
21:29 |
Exio4 |
same |
21:30 |
Exio4 |
coded it |
21:30 |
Exio4 |
uploading code |
21:30 |
VanessaE |
I wonder if kaeza meant to use string.format here... |
21:30 |
Exio4 |
http://cadoth.net/~exio4/c/pyramid.c |
21:31 |
VanessaE |
def.description = S("%s (Locked)"):format(def.description) |
21:31 |
Exio4 |
Menche: ^^ |
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21:35 |
Exio4 |
does anyone know where is him right now? :> |
21:36 |
VanessaE |
oh wait, I see what he did. |
21:36 |
* VanessaE |
reads... |
21:38 |
Exio4 |
Menche: what algorithm would have you used? |
21:38 |
Menche |
still figuring it out... |
21:38 |
Exio4 |
kk |
21:38 |
Exio4 |
that is funny part about programming, 15 minutes thinking the algorithm, 15 seconds coding it |
21:39 |
Menche |
yeah |
21:39 |
kahrl |
some math for a software implementation of ^[inventorycube: http://paste.dy.fi/Be5 |
21:41 |
hdastwb |
for i = 1,c do print(string.rep('*', i)) end? |
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21:42 |
Exio4 |
hdastwb: a good one :P |
21:42 |
Exio4 |
kahrl: it is ok if i don't understand anything there? :D |
21:43 |
kahrl |
Exio4: absolutely :D |
21:43 |
Exio4 |
good! |
21:48 |
Menche |
Exio4: http://pastebin.com/yrfn7rrT |
21:49 |
hdastwb |
hold on: function (size) for i = 1, size do print(('*'):rep(i)) end end |
21:50 |
Exio4 |
Menche: mine isn't that cute but simpler :P |
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21:51 |
Menche |
now where's that GNA guy |
21:51 |
Exio4 |
no idea |
21:51 |
hdastwb |
java |
21:51 |
* Menche |
wonders if he's using any external libraries |
21:53 |
* hdastwb |
thinks he's still trying to figure out his object hierarchy… |
21:53 |
Menche |
LOL |
21:53 |
Exio4 |
hdastwb is right :> |
21:53 |
Exio4 |
he is making the UML diagram for it |
21:53 |
Menche |
the unit testing is taking a while |
21:54 |
Exio4 |
XD |
21:55 |
Exio4 |
i'm still thinking an algorithm with recursion using a single function and without for(s) though |
21:55 |
Menche |
yeah, thought of that |
21:55 |
Menche |
:q |
21:55 |
Menche |
oops, wrong window |
21:55 |
Menche |
:P |
21:55 |
Exio4 |
lol |
21:55 |
Menche |
guess what editor i'm using? |
21:55 |
Exio4 |
emacs! |
21:56 |
Exio4 |
>:D |
21:56 |
pehjota |
Fellow Vim user. ^^ :) |
21:56 |
* Menche |
shoots Exio4 |
21:56 |
Exio4 |
haha |
21:57 |
pehjota |
(Or a user of some other vi implementation.) |
21:57 |
Menche |
yeah, it's vim |
21:59 |
pehjota |
Menche: I use BusyBox vi once in a while. ":q" is a feature of any standard vi. ;) |
21:59 |
Menche |
Exio4: when I run yours, i get this: http://pastebin.com/gFG24Ee3 |
22:00 |
Exio4 |
it is the correct behavior of it |
22:00 |
Menche |
perhaps i misunderstood what i was supposed to do |
22:00 |
Exio4 |
i didn't say it should be cute! :P |
22:00 |
Menche |
lol |
22:00 |
Exio4 |
i wrote what it should return here |
22:00 |
* Menche |
wonders what GNA guy is doing |
22:01 |
* Menche |
thinks he isn't actually doing it |
22:01 |
Exio4 |
[18:22:31] <Exio4> * |
22:01 |
Exio4 |
[18:22:32] <Exio4> ** |
22:01 |
Exio4 |
[18:22:35] <Exio4> *** |
22:01 |
Exio4 |
he is watching a how-to-craft-diamond-blocks-on-mc video in youtube right now |
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22:05 |
Menche |
Exio, a simpler one that does what you said: http://pastebin.com/gaupLYr6 |
22:07 |
Exio4 |
hehe |
22:07 |
Menche |
(i wasn't copying your for loop, i just noticed it's the same) |
22:07 |
Exio4 |
there aren't much ways to do it with for loops |
22:08 |
Exio4 |
the code would end being somewhat similar |
22:08 |
Exio4 |
mine is different though |
22:08 |
Menche |
only difference is, yours is in a function and is called several times |
22:08 |
Exio4 |
nope |
22:09 |
Exio4 |
check for the "for-variable" in the nested for, you count from 1 to "i" |
22:09 |
Menche |
and i initialize my loop to 1 and use <= |
22:09 |
Exio4 |
i count from i to 0 |
22:09 |
Menche |
ah, right |
22:09 |
Exio4 |
it ends in the same though |
22:09 |
Exio4 |
:P |
22:11 |
hdastwb |
I think C++ makes things easier: void pyr(int size) {for (int i = 1; i <= size; ++i) cout << string(i, '*') << endl;} |
22:11 |
kahrl |
I made a java solution! http://codepad.org/XkitNLv4 |
22:11 |
Menche |
wow |
22:12 |
Menche |
"class ConcretePyramidVisitorFactory extends AbstractPyramidVisitorFactory" |
22:12 |
Menche |
^ lol |
22:12 |
Exio4 |
hahahah |
22:12 |
Exio4 |
hahahahahahaha |
22:12 |
Menche |
gaaaah that was my brain ouch |
22:12 |
PilzAdam |
hey! dont hate on java! |
22:13 |
PilzAdam |
you can do the same in c++ |
22:13 |
Exio4 |
XD |
22:13 |
PilzAdam |
(the abstraction and stuff) |
22:13 |
Exio4 |
man, i'm crying, i can't stop laughing |
22:13 |
Exio4 |
the design pattern PilzAdam |
22:14 |
Menche |
does "AbstractPyramidVisitorFactory" do anything? |
22:14 |
hdastwb |
of course not; it's abstract! |
22:15 |
Exio4 |
I recommend you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_Patterns_%28book%29 |
22:16 |
* NekoGloop |
throws cookies around |
22:17 |
Exio4 |
http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-07-15#i_3200027 this, ended with http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-07-15#i_3200158 |
22:19 |
Menche |
and the guy who started it left |
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22:20 |
Exio4 |
at least is was a funny moment |
22:20 |
Exio4 |
GNADev|zRokh: your work took a bit |
22:21 |
GNADev|zRokh |
sorry, my pc crashed |
22:21 |
Exio4 |
where is the code |
22:21 |
GNADev|zRokh |
where do i upload it? |
22:21 |
Exio4 |
pastebin.com |
22:21 |
GNADev|zRokh |
ok |
22:21 |
Exio4 |
inb4 kahrl's code |
22:21 |
GNADev|zRokh |
what? |
22:21 |
Exio4 |
nothin' man ;) |
22:21 |
Menche |
http://codepad.org/XkitNLv4 |
22:22 |
Exio4 |
GNADev|zRokh: ping? |
22:23 |
GNADev|zRokh |
its opening up...wait a sec please |
22:23 |
GNADev|zRokh |
my pc isnt fast you know right? |
22:23 |
GNADev|zRokh |
450MB of ram and 8GB of storage... |
22:24 |
Exio4 |
that is enough for codin' and sharin' |
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22:25 |
GNADev|zRokh |
well im running also Windows XP with SP 2 and more then 60% of my storage is full... |
22:25 |
GNADev|zRokh |
so it lags... |
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22:25 |
Exio4 |
GNADev|zRokh: the time you use for writing that is time that could be used in uploading the code |
22:25 |
Exio4 |
and what matters is not the pc as the network does ;) |
22:25 |
GNADev|zRokh |
aye dood |
22:26 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i download at 500kb-900kb/sec |
22:26 |
GNADev|zRokh |
so no, it isnt that much |
22:26 |
Exio4 |
my download is about 25 times slower than that, at least |
22:27 |
Exio4 |
if you meant kbit/s, only 3~ times |
22:27 |
Exio4 |
GNADev|zRokh: now, can i see your code? |
22:27 |
GNADev|zRokh |
its uploading... |
22:27 |
GNADev|zRokh |
getting link |
22:27 |
GNADev|zRokh |
http://pastebin.com/WJAWeidT |
22:27 |
GNADev|zRokh |
there you go .-. |
22:28 |
Exio4 |
wow... |
22:28 |
GNADev|zRokh |
what? |
22:28 |
Exio4 |
GNADev|zRokh: do you have a C compiler? |
22:28 |
GNADev|zRokh |
nope... |
22:28 |
GNADev|zRokh |
why? |
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22:29 |
GNADev|zRokh |
oh, for that...wait |
22:29 |
Menche |
you made it graphical? |
22:29 |
Exio4 |
and it isn't dynamic or so |
22:29 |
GNADev|zRokh |
yes |
22:29 |
Exio4 |
it just shows pre-made strings Menche |
22:29 |
GNADev|zRokh |
so?! |
22:29 |
Menche |
yeah |
22:29 |
Exio4 |
i said it needs to be dynamic |
22:29 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i didnt see that... |
22:29 |
PilzAdam |
GNADev|zRokh, ever heard of "public static void main(String[] args)"? |
22:29 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i used JFrame |
22:29 |
Exio4 |
[18:24:17] <Exio4> it needs to be dynamic btw |
22:29 |
Exio4 |
[18:24:26] <Exio4> not just print * then ** and then *** |
22:30 |
* Menche |
's version: http://pastebin.com/gaupLYr6 |
22:30 |
GNADev|zRokh |
wasnt i gone by then? |
22:30 |
Exio4 |
no, do i need to search logs? |
22:30 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i was gone by that! |
22:30 |
Exio4 |
http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-07-15#i_3200055 |
22:31 |
Menche |
int main(int argc, char** argv) |
22:31 |
PilzAdam |
Exio4, I could do that in gasm, I think |
22:31 |
Exio4 |
GNADev|zRokh: you weren't, here |
22:31 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i told you! |
22:31 |
Menche |
the arguments to main are only if you need to pass arguments to the program |
22:31 |
GNADev|zRokh |
so it doenst count! |
22:31 |
Exio4 |
PilzAdam: i could do it in... wait for it... perl! |
22:31 |
PilzAdam |
lol perl |
22:31 |
Exio4 |
i would make a regex for it! |
22:32 |
Exio4 |
nah, outside joke, perl is a good language if you need to do heavy string parsing :P |
22:32 |
Exio4 |
and is pretty easy |
22:32 |
PilzAdam |
never used it |
22:32 |
GNADev|zRokh |
me neither... |
22:32 |
Menche |
now, make it in Lua and have it make the pyramid in minetest nodes |
22:32 |
Exio4 |
you may end with this http://xkcd.com/1171/ |
22:32 |
GNADev|zRokh |
PLEASE tell me more </sarcasm> |
22:32 |
Exio4 |
Menche: lol'd |
22:33 |
* Menche |
may actually do that just cause |
22:33 |
Exio4 |
... or ... https://xkcd.com/208/ |
22:35 |
Exio4 |
anyway GNADev|zRokh |
22:35 |
GNADev|zRokh |
hey Menche |
22:36 |
Exio4 |
you didn't do what i said ... |
22:36 |
GNADev|zRokh |
./file.c:7 identifier expected |
22:36 |
GNADev|zRokh |
cause i didnt know |
22:36 |
GNADev|zRokh |
:D |
22:36 |
Exio4 |
wat |
22:36 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i compiled it and it returned an error :D |
22:36 |
Exio4 |
GNADev|zRokh: compile it with gcc |
22:36 |
GNADev|zRokh |
im on windows... |
22:36 |
kahrl |
it's C99 |
22:36 |
Exio4 |
msys/mingw |
22:36 |
Exio4 |
ah |
22:36 |
Exio4 |
use my code then |
22:36 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i compiled with TCC |
22:37 |
Exio4 |
http://cadoth.net/~exio4/c/pyramid.c |
22:37 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Tiny C Compiler |
22:37 |
GNADev|zRokh |
ok |
22:37 |
Exio4 |
i know |
22:37 |
Exio4 |
never used it on windows though |
22:37 |
GNADev|zRokh |
k |
22:37 |
Exio4 |
i normally use gcc + uclibc now (for small binaries / limited systems / etc) as gcc has more 'optimizations' :P |
22:38 |
* Menche |
uses clang |
22:38 |
kahrl |
thought tcc = Turbo C Compiler |
22:38 |
Exio4 |
we are not that old kahrl! |
22:38 |
* Exio4 |
rewrites minetest in turbo pascal |
22:38 |
hdastwb |
I hope I'm not too late; here's a basic UneFunge version: 50p01p0>'*,:1g\`3j9+1_$a,01g1+:1p0g\`3j+ff_@ |
22:39 |
Exio4 |
hmm |
22:39 |
VanessaE |
Menche: any luck? |
22:39 |
Exio4 |
is that gziped brainfuck? :> |
22:39 |
VanessaE |
Exio4: probably perl ;) |
22:40 |
Exio4 |
s/VanessaE.*// |
22:40 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Exio, theres just one problem... |
22:40 |
Exio4 |
what? |
22:40 |
VanessaE |
:P |
22:40 |
GNADev|zRokh |
you forgot to pause the program after it prints it all :D |
22:40 |
Exio4 |
ehm, no? |
22:40 |
Exio4 |
it works as excepted |
22:40 |
GNADev|zRokh |
ugh, yes! |
22:40 |
GNADev|zRokh |
ugh, no! |
22:40 |
Menche |
you only have to do that if you start it from an IDE |
22:41 |
hdastwb |
or by clicking |
22:41 |
Menche |
if you start it the *real* way you don't have to pause |
22:41 |
Exio4 |
ah |
22:41 |
Exio4 |
i got what he meant |
22:41 |
GNADev|zRokh |
yeah... |
22:41 |
Menche |
hdastwb: yeah that too |
22:41 |
GNADev|zRokh |
exactly! |
22:41 |
Menche |
start it the *real* way |
22:41 |
Exio4 |
open the code and run the binary |
22:41 |
GNADev|zRokh |
define *real* |
22:41 |
Exio4 |
open the code and run the binary |
22:41 |
Menche |
run from a terminal |
22:41 |
Exio4 |
err, cmd |
22:41 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i did |
22:41 |
Exio4 |
no idea why i write code |
22:41 |
GNADev|zRokh |
thats how i got it to work |
22:42 |
Exio4 |
GNADev|zRokh: tcc -o pyramid pyramid.c |
22:42 |
Exio4 |
GNADev|zRokh: tcc -o pyramid.exe pyramid.c // sry |
22:42 |
Menche |
actually *start* it from in the terminal |
22:42 |
Exio4 |
.\pyramid.exe |
22:42 |
GNADev|zRokh |
it output file.exe |
22:42 |
Exio4 |
.\file.exe |
22:42 |
GNADev|zRokh |
cause the c was file.c |
22:42 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i know |
22:42 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i made a bat file |
22:42 |
GNADev|zRokh |
@echo off |
22:42 |
Exio4 |
. |
22:42 |
GNADev|zRokh |
file |
22:42 |
GNADev|zRokh |
pause |
22:42 |
GNADev|zRokh |
thats it... |
22:42 |
Exio4 |
gj |
22:42 |
GNADev|zRokh |
ikr :D |
22:43 |
Menche |
you don't start text programs by clicking on them!!! |
22:43 |
GNADev|zRokh |
still :D |
22:43 |
GNADev|zRokh |
lets do another one |
22:43 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i call dibs on Python3 |
22:43 |
GNADev|zRokh |
:D |
22:43 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Exio4 set the game rules! |
22:44 |
GNADev|zRokh |
yo! |
22:44 |
GNADev|zRokh |
o.O |
22:44 |
Exio4 |
what |
22:44 |
GNADev|zRokh |
lets do another one |
22:44 |
Exio4 |
do you want other chall now? |
22:44 |
arsdragonfly |
Exio4 on windows there's no need to specify the current directory |
22:45 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i know |
22:45 |
GNADev|zRokh |
but i did :D |
22:45 |
GNADev|zRokh |
./file.c |
22:45 |
Exio4 |
arsdragonfly: didn't know that |
22:45 |
GNADev|zRokh |
now Exio4, lets do another one and you set the game rules and the objective |
22:45 |
arsdragonfly |
even simply file works |
22:45 |
GNADev|zRokh |
not when compiling... |
22:45 |
GNADev|zRokh |
tcc file.c |
22:46 |
GNADev|zRokh |
not tcc file |
22:46 |
GNADev|zRokh |
>.< |
22:46 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Exio4, yo, set them! |
22:46 |
Exio4 |
well, i'm trying to think something that isn't very hard |
22:46 |
GNADev|zRokh |
and set the time limit |
22:46 |
GNADev|zRokh |
:D |
22:46 |
Exio4 |
Menche: it is your turn |
22:46 |
GNADev|zRokh |
true |
22:46 |
Menche |
? |
22:47 |
GNADev|zRokh |
lets do another one Menche |
22:47 |
Exio4 |
define something that is easy but isn't the hello world |
22:47 |
GNADev|zRokh |
:D |
22:47 |
GNADev|zRokh |
lets do the Good Bye World :D |
22:47 |
GNADev|zRokh |
idk what that is xD |
22:47 |
Menche |
VanessaE: I've been loading blocks that may have had the problem device and it hasn't crashed |
22:47 |
VanessaE |
ok cool |
22:47 |
Menche |
I'm not sure i have the location right |
22:48 |
Menche |
I'll have to ask the player in question to be sure |
22:48 |
ShadowNinja |
Count down from 100. |
22:48 |
GNADev|zRokh |
FFUUUUU!! |
22:48 |
VanessaE |
well, let me know. in the meantime I'll push that change to git. |
22:48 |
hdastwb |
int main() {cout << "good bye world!" << endl; delete &cout; return -1;} |
22:48 |
VanessaE |
(I can always revert if it doesn't work) |
22:48 |
GNADev|zRokh |
oh a countdown :D |
22:48 |
GNADev|zRokh |
easy@ |
22:48 |
GNADev|zRokh |
! |
22:48 |
PilzAdam |
GNADev|zRokh, learn from it: http://pastebin.com/q9dag5MS |
22:49 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i know how to do it |
22:49 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i thought the time to do is was 100 seconds :D |
22:49 |
VanessaE |
Menche: any idea what the nodes were before? |
22:49 |
PilzAdam |
Exio4, my entry to the competition: http://pastebin.com/q9dag5MS |
22:49 |
Exio4 |
lol.. |
22:49 |
Exio4 |
unfairness |
22:49 |
PilzAdam |
how? |
22:50 |
PilzAdam |
it draws lots of little "*" |
22:50 |
Exio4 |
haha |
22:50 |
PilzAdam |
now do that in plain C pls |
22:50 |
PilzAdam |
oh |
22:50 |
PilzAdam |
I forgot |
22:50 |
Menche |
what, that draw a triangle? |
22:50 |
PilzAdam |
C doesnt have a graphics libary build in |
22:50 |
hdastwb |
…because C's not bloated |
22:51 |
Exio4 |
and is fast |
22:51 |
kahrl |
PilzAdam: doesn't this violate the single thread rule? https://weblogs.java.net/blog/cayhorstmann/archive/2007/06/the_single_thre.html |
22:51 |
PilzAdam |
maybe I should use awt, the SECOND graphics libary that is builtin in Java |
22:51 |
PilzAdam |
Java 2; C 0 |
22:51 |
Exio4 |
C is a cute&portable ASM |
22:51 |
Menche |
and neither integrate into the rest of a destkop environment |
22:51 |
Menche |
*desktop |
22:52 |
Exio4 |
python isn't cute |
22:52 |
hdastwb |
python is also slower than lua and javascript combined |
22:52 |
Menche |
interpreted < compiled |
22:52 |
Exio4 |
racket is cut |
22:52 |
Exio4 |
+e |
22:53 |
kahrl |
none of these programming languages are as cute as lolcode |
22:53 |
Exio4 |
CAN I HAS STDIO? |
22:53 |
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22:54 |
PilzAdam |
kahrl, no, I do all in the ctor of Main |
22:54 |
GNADev|zRokh |
done... |
22:54 |
GNADev|zRokh |
uploading |
22:54 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Exio4: its with an X :D |
22:55 |
Exio4 |
wat |
22:55 |
Exio4 |
you're uploading what |
22:55 |
GNADev|zRokh |
http://pastebin.com/RVB9CDeB |
22:55 |
GNADev|zRokh |
the countdown :D |
22:56 |
Exio4 |
lemme write it |
22:56 |
GNADev|zRokh |
so what do you think? |
22:56 |
PilzAdam |
Exio4, in GNU ASM pls |
22:57 |
GNADev|zRokh |
PilzAdam try out the timer that i made for the mini-contest :D |
22:57 |
GNADev|zRokh |
http://pastebin.com/RVB9CDeB |
22:58 |
Menche |
simple: http://pastebin.com/TDDScPsm |
22:58 |
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22:58 |
NekoGloopMkII |
wassup |
22:58 |
Exio4 |
http://cadoth.net/~exio4/c/countdown.c |
22:58 |
GNADev|zRokh |
can i choose the competition this time? |
22:58 |
Exio4 |
Menche: :< |
22:58 |
Exio4 |
GNADev|zRokh: doit |
22:58 |
hdastwb |
if event.type == 'interrupt' then digiline_send('lcd', event.iid); interrupt(1, event.iid - 1) else interrupt(1, 100) end |
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22:59 |
hdastwb |
it doesn't stop, though. . . |
22:59 |
Exio4 |
lol |
22:59 |
DanDuncombe |
What is the current conversation about? |
23:00 |
VanessaE |
DanDuncombe: don't ask |
23:00 |
VanessaE |
it's all over the map :) |
23:00 |
Exio4 |
GNADev|zRokh: ? |
23:00 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Exio4, Menche, your countdowns are [INVALID] |
23:01 |
Exio4 |
? |
23:01 |
Menche |
? |
23:01 |
GNADev|zRokh |
in mine 1 = 1 second :D |
23:01 |
GNADev|zRokh |
yours just speed through :D |
23:01 |
hdastwb |
if event.type == 'interrupt' then digiline_send('lcd', event.iid); event.iid > 0 and interrupt(1, event.iid - 1) else interrupt(1, 100) end |
23:01 |
Exio4 |
C is speed man! |
23:01 |
GNADev|zRokh |
and Java is Crack :D |
23:01 |
hdastwb |
that ought to work; still no testing, though |
23:01 |
Menche |
C is faster than time |
23:01 |
DanDuncombe |
Why is java so slow? |
23:01 |
GNADev|zRokh |
but its still down in time |
23:02 |
Exio4 |
GNADev|zRokh: nobody said we should add sleeps to that |
23:02 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i know... |
23:02 |
Exio4 |
i would make unix call though ;) |
23:02 |
Menche |
but hey, add a system(sleep 1) and it'll be 1 second |
23:02 |
GNADev|zRokh |
.-. |
23:02 |
Menche |
of course, that may not work on windoze |
23:02 |
Exio4 |
Menche: man 3 sleep :P |
23:02 |
GNADev|zRokh |
:D |
23:02 |
DanDuncombe |
:) |
23:02 |
Exio4 |
CONFORMING TO |
23:02 |
Exio4 |
POSIX.1-2001. |
23:02 |
GNADev|zRokh |
hey its my turn to pick the challenge |
23:02 |
GNADev|zRokh |
hmm... |
23:03 |
Menche |
Exio4, ? |
23:03 |
DanDuncombe |
what'll it be? |
23:03 |
GNADev|zRokh |
thinking... |
23:03 |
Exio4 |
you can actually use "sleep(1)" in C |
23:03 |
Exio4 |
posix-C |
23:03 |
kahrl |
use boost::this_thread::sleep |
23:03 |
PilzAdam |
john_minetest, EH, MACARENA |
23:03 |
Exio4 |
lmao |
23:03 |
GNADev|zRokh |
:D |
23:03 |
GNADev|zRokh |
ugh... |
23:03 |
GNADev|zRokh |
how about a wget copy :D |
23:03 |
Exio4 |
wget copy? |
23:03 |
hdastwb |
karhrl: or std::this_thread if you're compiler isn't ancient |
23:04 |
GNADev|zRokh |
a program that asks for a website and then downloads it :D |
23:04 |
hdastwb |
well, this_thread::sleep_for |
23:04 |
Menche |
way to misspell his name |
23:04 |
Exio4 |
GNADev|zRokh: can i use curl? |
23:04 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i call dibs on python3 :D |
23:04 |
GNADev|zRokh |
sure, why not |
23:04 |
Exio4 |
but how would you compile it though |
23:04 |
GNADev|zRokh |
it just needs to be C based |
23:04 |
GNADev|zRokh |
idk... |
23:04 |
GNADev|zRokh |
wait no... |
23:04 |
GNADev|zRokh |
retake... |
23:05 |
GNADev|zRokh |
ugh, just a wget clone |
23:05 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Exio4: what lang? |
23:05 |
GNADev|zRokh |
will you use*** |
23:06 |
Exio4 |
thinking about SML, checking its api |
23:06 |
DanDuncombe |
When was Minetest first made? |
23:06 |
GNADev|zRokh |
well bye |
23:06 |
GNADev|zRokh |
g2g |
23:06 |
GNADev|zRokh |
moms home |
23:06 |
Exio4 |
lol'd |
23:06 |
Exio4 |
k |
23:06 |
GNADev|zRokh |
party over doods, bye! |
23:06 |
DanDuncombe |
by! |
23:06 |
DanDuncombe |
I mean bye! |
23:06 |
GNADev|zRokh |
ill be gone for 3 weeks so bye for a long time |
23:06 |
arsdragonfly |
see u |
23:06 |
DanDuncombe |
seeu |
23:06 |
Exio4 |
maybe racket is the way to go |
23:06 |
GNADev|zRokh |
same here bro! |
23:06 |
DanDuncombe |
mm |
23:06 |
GNADev|zRokh |
much luv doods! |
23:06 |
hdastwb |
bye |
23:06 |
* Exio4 |
rewrites GNADev|zRokh in racket |
23:06 |
GNADev|zRokh |
bye |
23:07 |
DanDuncombe |
g'bye! |
23:07 |
Exio4 |
GNADev|zRokh: connect as soon you can man |
23:07 |
GNADev|zRokh |
sure will biggums :D |
23:07 |
GNADev|zRokh |
bye |
23:07 |
DanDuncombe |
Nooo! he hath gonneth! |
23:08 |
Menche |
the initial commit to celeron's bitbucket mercurial repository was 2010-11-26 |
23:08 |
DanDuncombe |
So... around 2 years ago? |
23:08 |
PilzAdam |
Exio4, woffle? |
23:08 |
PilzAdam |
john_minetest, ^ ? |
23:08 |
arsdragonfly |
so how many months later than minecraft? |
23:08 |
Menche |
it was around before though |
23:09 |
Menche |
well, i think |
23:10 |
DanDuncombe |
Says on Wikipedia: 'It was publicly released for the PC on May 17, 2009' (Minecraft) |
23:11 |
DanDuncombe |
So Minetest is around 1 year older than Minecraft I think |
23:11 |
DanDuncombe |
I mean younger |
23:11 |
Menche |
minetest had jungles before minecraft did |
23:12 |
Menche |
mesecons had lightstone before redstone got it's alternative |
23:12 |
PilzAdam |
minetest had per node textures before Minecraft did |
23:12 |
Exio4 |
minetest got a lua api before minecr.. err, nvm |
23:12 |
PilzAdam |
(as in seperated, not one atlas) |
23:13 |
Menche |
mojang has been promising a mod api for a while |
23:13 |
DanDuncombe |
Sorry to say this but Minecraft jungles are cooler than in Minetest |
23:13 |
Exio4 |
since 1.3 |
23:13 |
PilzAdam |
theres a repo on github |
23:13 |
PilzAdam |
/kick DanDuncombe |
23:13 |
Exio4 |
did you see MT's dungeons though? ;) |
23:13 |
DanDuncombe |
I'm just sayin |
23:13 |
DanDuncombe |
Mt's dungeons are bigger |
23:13 |
DanDuncombe |
Mc's jungles are cooler |
23:14 |
PilzAdam |
MT has more fail mobs than MC |
23:14 |
Exio4 |
and are really dungeons |
23:14 |
Menche |
MT's dungeons are way more epic than MC's wimpy single rooms |
23:14 |
Exio4 |
lol'd at that PilzAdam |
23:14 |
Exio4 |
Menche: yeah |
23:14 |
DanDuncombe |
Mc has great auto spawning structures (villages etc) |
23:14 |
Menche |
the controls in minetest have always felt more responsive to me |
23:14 |
DanDuncombe |
But Mt has Structures Mod |
23:14 |
Exio4 |
that stuff is "added with mods" |
23:14 |
hdastwb |
there was one version of mobf with houses… |
23:14 |
Menche |
i think the minecraft player doesn't jump as high or is slower or something |
23:15 |
DanDuncombe |
Menche You know you can configure sensitivity in Mc... |
23:15 |
Menche |
minecraft's flying sucks |
23:15 |
PilzAdam |
^ |
23:15 |
Exio4 |
he doesn't mean that DanDuncombe |
23:15 |
Exio4 |
and that too |
23:15 |
DanDuncombe |
I think one version of Mobf had |
23:15 |
Exio4 |
MT's movement system is pretty nice for me :P |
23:15 |
DanDuncombe |
auto spawning trader huts |
23:16 |
Exio4 |
i actually use e for running fast when playing MC |
23:16 |
Menche |
having to double-tap jump is annoying, you don't have freemove, and the horrible physics makes controlling flying difficult, especially while going fast |
23:16 |
Exio4 |
double-tap is configurable in MC |
23:16 |
Exio4 |
errr |
23:16 |
PilzAdam |
MT has realistic physics, while MC has something strange |
23:16 |
Exio4 |
MT |
23:16 |
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23:16 |
DanDuncombe |
Mobs are better in Mc though simply because they work well in java I guess |
23:16 |
* PilzAdam |
looks at john_minetest |
23:16 |
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23:16 |
* PilzAdam |
looks at john_cephalopoda |
23:17 |
Naked |
realistic physics? |
23:17 |
Menche |
a game like this doesn't need realistic physics |
23:17 |
PilzAdam |
Naked, i.e. gravity |
23:17 |
Naked |
ohh that |
23:17 |
DanDuncombe |
Or realisti only in survival at least |
23:17 |
Menche |
inertia is especially annoying |
23:17 |
DanDuncombe |
really? |
23:17 |
DanDuncombe |
How? |
23:17 |
Naked |
I was thinking about needed supports so what you build doesnt fall on your head |
23:17 |
Exio4 |
only two things aren't very "nice for me" in MT, but in MC, is the client-side prediction of small things and "chunk radius-stuff" of MT |
23:18 |
Menche |
as far as minetest physics go, all i care about is that my feet stay on the ground when i'm not flying |
23:18 |
DanDuncombe |
And that you don't walk through solid walls |
23:18 |
Exio4 |
if MT got a radius-based chunk loading plus client-side prediction for doors, buckets, and that stuff in-game |
23:18 |
Exio4 |
i would stop playing minecraft right now |
23:18 |
Exio4 |
DanDuncombe: that is noclip and can be enabled/disabled |
23:18 |
PilzAdam |
Exio4, you play MC? |
23:18 |
Exio4 |
PilzAdam: yeah |
23:19 |
PilzAdam |
how dare you! :-p |
23:19 |
Exio4 |
that is how i knew MT |
23:19 |
DanDuncombe |
I mean just running around and glitching |
23:19 |
DanDuncombe |
I play Mc and Mt |
23:19 |
Exio4 |
DanDuncombe: hmm? |
23:19 |
Exio4 |
other thing i love about MT is ... |
23:19 |
Menche |
I have both, but nowadays I play mostly MT |
23:19 |
Exio4 |
opensource ness! |
23:19 |
Menche |
haven't seriously played MC for quite a while |
23:19 |
Exio4 |
i only play MC for doing dummy things now |
23:20 |
DanDuncombe |
and I hate close-minded people who can't cope with the fact that Mc has better features than Mt and vice versa |
23:20 |
Exio4 |
the last thing i did was getting 2500 or 3500 hardened clay and replacing a whole wool island (wool i placed) with hardened clay, magenta hardened clay |
23:20 |
DanDuncombe |
I play Mt because Mc can't be run on my computer |
23:20 |
DanDuncombe |
I assume you are using Mc version 1.6? |
23:20 |
Exio4 |
yes |
23:20 |
Exio4 |
it sucks though |
23:20 |
DanDuncombe |
Horses are great |
23:21 |
Naked |
I like both games and detest stuff on both games |
23:21 |
Exio4 |
^ |
23:21 |
Exio4 |
DanDuncombe: they remove client-side prediction |
23:21 |
Exio4 |
/not implement it |
23:21 |
Exio4 |
this is like they are trying to emulate quake3 |
23:21 |
Naked |
I mean why the hell did MT need to copy the shit health system of Minecraft?? |
23:21 |
DanDuncombe |
I like leads (hanging up iron golems) |
23:21 |
Exio4 |
Naked: what system do you suggest? |
23:21 |
PilzAdam |
Naked, no hunger seen in MT yet... |
23:21 |
NekoGloopMkII |
Yeah, why not have a health bar |
23:22 |
Naked |
normal 100 health bar that you find in other games since they where invented |
23:22 |
Exio4 |
ah |
23:22 |
Naked |
not this crap hearts that will later ruin combat |
23:22 |
Exio4 |
that is really nice and would be nice to make |
23:22 |
Menche |
yeah, i would prefer a bar with 100 health |
23:22 |
DanDuncombe |
We need some kind of armour too in default. |
23:22 |
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23:22 |
DanDuncombe |
Although diamond armour is stupid |
23:23 |
DanDuncombe |
And in real life would shatter |
23:23 |
DanDuncombe |
And be incredibly expensive |
23:23 |
hdastwb |
really? |
23:23 |
hdastwb |
diamond is one of the strongest substances known to man |
23:23 |
DanDuncombe |
Diamonds I think are hard but not strong |
23:23 |
Menche |
tools made of diamond are stupid too |
23:23 |
PilzAdam |
you find diamonds which are that big in the first place |
23:23 |
Menche |
diamonds will burn, i believe |
23:24 |
Menche |
john_minetest, in minetest they are made out of diamond |
23:24 |
DanDuncombe |
If you put them in a really hot place they can vapourise |
23:24 |
PilzAdam |
if you put it in a really hot place then * turns into plasma |
23:24 |
DanDuncombe |
Also in real life they are used like sandpaper |
23:24 |
PilzAdam |
where * is any matter |
23:24 |
DanDuncombe |
Sand is really strong |
23:25 |
Menche |
aren't the current diamond tools just made completely of diamond? or did something change when i wasn't looking? |
23:25 |
DanDuncombe |
Also iron lumps+cooking=steel is stupid |
23:25 |
DanDuncombe |
Sticks are used for diamond tools in Mt too |
23:26 |
PilzAdam |
Menche, there is no real definition if the diamonds are pure C or if its encrusted stone |
23:26 |
Menche |
well yeah, the handle |
23:26 |
Menche |
lol. that still doesn't make sense. |
23:26 |
* Exio4 |
throws a rock at Menche's head |
23:27 |
hdastwb |
^ default:stone? |
23:27 |
PilzAdam |
base:stone |
23:27 |
Exio4 |
default:lava_source ftfy :> |
23:27 |
PilzAdam |
</pilztest> |
23:27 |
DanDuncombe |
Just for fun we could add: coal tools, quartz tools, glass tools, iron_lump tools, copper tools, wool tools, furnace tools, wheat tools... |
23:27 |
Exio4 |
make a mod called "funtools" |
23:27 |
Menche |
glass tools: break on first use and don't actually do anything |
23:27 |
Exio4 |
with those recipes |
23:27 |
PilzAdam |
btw, for everyone who thinks that survival in mt_game is too boring: https://github.com/PilzAdam/pilztest |
23:28 |
Menche |
wheat tools: last for a while but don't actually do anything |
23:28 |
hdastwb |
wheat tools are edible in a pinch |
23:28 |
DanDuncombe |
PilzAdam: when will the redstone in your game be finished? |
23:28 |
Exio4 |
lol |
23:28 |
PilzAdam |
DanDuncombe, in what game? |
23:28 |
Exio4 |
DanDuncombe: mesecons |
23:28 |
DanDuncombe |
No... |
23:28 |
Menche |
furnace tools: ...i'm not sure what that would look like |
23:28 |
Exio4 |
lol |
23:28 |
PilzAdam |
DanDuncombe, you mean MiniTest? |
23:28 |
NekoGloopMkII |
smelt automaticall |
23:28 |
Exio4 |
ah |
23:28 |
DanDuncombe |
Indeed |
23:28 |
DanDuncombe |
Minitest ftw |
23:29 |
PilzAdam |
DanDuncombe, define "finished" |
23:29 |
DanDuncombe |
When all parts work fully |
23:29 |
PilzAdam |
everything works currently |
23:29 |
DanDuncombe |
Like Mc Maybe? |
23:29 |
DanDuncombe |
The version I last tried some stuff still didn't do anything. |
23:29 |
PilzAdam |
I need to add pistons and other stuff |
23:29 |
DanDuncombe |
Yep. |
23:30 |
DanDuncombe |
When they are added then it will be amazing. |
23:30 |
DanDuncombe |
Can you add picturs to a post on this chat? |
23:30 |
NekoGloopMkII |
No. |
23:30 |
DanDuncombe |
Oh well... |
23:30 |
Exio4 |
DanDuncombe: you can upload images to some site and post the link |
23:30 |
DanDuncombe |
Guess it prevents spamming. |
23:30 |
Exio4 |
like imgur |
23:31 |
DanDuncombe |
thnx |
23:31 |
Menche |
and how would a text irc client display images? |
23:32 |
DanDuncombe |
Just seen that paramat has released hiss volcano mod on the foprum |
23:33 |
NekoGloopMkII |
Yes, we get it, paramat is a fucking lua god |
23:33 |
Menche |
installing paramat's mods -> generating a single block takes 30 mins |
23:33 |
NekoGloopMkII |
Well that's just lua mapgen :P |
23:33 |
DanDuncombe |
To get a volcano to form |
23:33 |
DanDuncombe |
you need to |
23:34 |
DanDuncombe |
go to a lava cave |
23:34 |
DanDuncombe |
at a maximum depth |
23:34 |
Menche |
please post |
23:34 |
DanDuncombe |
of no more than |
23:34 |
Menche |
your entire message |
23:34 |
Menche |
on one line |
23:34 |
DanDuncombe |
okay |
23:35 |
DanDuncombe |
Go to a max depth of no more than y = -256 and find a lava cave. |
23:35 |
DanDuncombe |
If there is an ore above it I think a lava conduit will form that rises towards the surface. |
23:35 |
DanDuncombe |
This will then form a volcano. |
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23:38 |
DanDuncombe |
Does anyone have any ideas for more buildings to go in my Instant Buildings mod? |
23:39 |
DanDuncombe |
I already have: Small hut Large hut Small house Small farm Large farm Short tower Small warehouse Large house Modern house Tall tower Factory Large warehouse Mansion |
23:39 |
PilzAdam |
..., small Dan, large dan, ... |
23:40 |
VanessaE |
indeed |
23:40 |
* VanessaE |
throws some commas at DanDuncombe |
23:40 |
DanDuncombe |
soz... |
23:40 |
DanDuncombe |
How do you 'throw' stuff at people on here? |
23:40 |
VanessaE |
like this: |
23:41 |
* VanessaE |
throws a mese block at DanDuncombe |
23:41 |
VanessaE |
:) |
23:41 |
* MinetestBot |
throws /me at DanDuncombe |
23:41 |
DanDuncombe |
* DanDuncombe throws a pineapple at VannessaE |
23:41 |
DanDuncombe |
That didn't work |
23:41 |
Menche |
DanDuncombe: /me |
23:42 |
* DanDuncombe |
throws tuuf at people |
23:42 |
VanessaE |
he |
23:42 |
VanessaE |
heh |
23:42 |
DanDuncombe |
meh |
23:42 |
PilzAdam |
sry, but IRC noobs are too funny |
23:42 |
DanDuncombe |
Oh well |
23:42 |
* Menche |
gets hit by tuuf |
23:42 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: you were an irc noob once yourself as we all were. |
23:42 |
Exio4 |
tufi tufi |
23:42 |
DanDuncombe |
soz... lol |
23:42 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, yay! I was funny at least once! |
23:43 |
VanessaE |
heh |
23:43 |
VanessaE |
now you're just a smartass :P |
23:43 |
* PilzAdam |
raises funny counter to 2 |
23:43 |
PilzAdam |
btw, |
23:43 |
PilzAdam |
!deop VanessaE |
23:43 |
VanessaE |
didn't even notice I had it. |
23:44 |
DanDuncombe |
how do you do it? |
23:44 |
* DanDuncombe |
throws stuff doesn't work |
23:44 |
DanDuncombe |
oh... oops |
23:45 |
khonkhortisan |
/msg chanserv op #minetest |
23:45 |
* DanDuncombe |
eats a tuuf |
23:46 |
DanDuncombe |
MMMM! |
23:46 |
PilzAdam |
DanDuncombe, protip: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC |
23:46 |
DanDuncombe |
thanks |
23:48 |
* DanDuncombe |
loves the me command |
23:49 |
DanDuncombe |
Who is loggingbot_ ? |
23:49 |
marktraceur |
DanDuncombe: A bot. Who logs. |
23:49 |
VanessaE |
a...um...logging bot? :) |
23:49 |
NekoGloopMkII |
A bot who chops trees |
23:50 |
kahrl |
and he's okay |
23:51 |
DanDuncombe |
lol |
23:51 |
DanDuncombe |
So is it/him/her human? |
23:52 |
marktraceur |
DanDuncombe: In some sense - a human controls it, but it's pretty much automated. |
23:52 |
DanDuncombe |
When will 0.4.8 Minetest stable be released? |
23:52 |
VanessaE |
soon. |
23:53 |
DanDuncombe |
Good. |
23:53 |
DanDuncombe |
Does worldedit save facedir? I'm assuming it does |
23:54 |
VanessaE |
yes, it does |
23:54 |
DanDuncombe |
Good. |
23:55 |
DanDuncombe |
Are there roof corners in your homedecor mod? |
23:56 |
VanessaE |
er...um |
23:56 |
VanessaE |
yes, there are...... |
23:56 |
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23:57 |
VanessaE |
jeez, let me answer the question for crying out loud |
23:57 |
VanessaE |
yes, there are corners. |
23:57 |
VanessaE |
but you have to craft and place them explicitly. |
23:57 |
* NekoGloopMkII |
puts a kitten on DanDuncombe's head |
23:57 |
DanDuncombe |
soz... didn't mean to disconnect. |
23:57 |
* DanDuncombe |
eats kitten |
23:57 |
NekoGloopMkII |
BEGONE, HEATHEN! |
23:58 |
* DanDuncombe |
charges at Taoki while he is gone |
23:58 |
NekoGloopMkII |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPjW_9KZo8M ~ |
23:59 |
* DanDuncombe |
mistakes NekoGloopMkII for a kitten and eats him/her/other as well |
23:59 |
NekoGloopMkII |
other. |