Time Nick Message 00:09 ShadowNinja -_- Do you see anything wrong with this? https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/blob/master/technic/machines/lv/cnc_api.lua#L337 00:10 NekoGloopMkII Make absolutely certain you use the same spelling for all of them 00:11 Ego Are the default mods necessary? Like Screwdriver or Vessels? 00:11 Ego If I delete them, will Minetest break? =P 00:11 NekoGloopMkII ShadowBot, or, y'know, say the error? :D 00:11 NekoGloopMkII Ego, Probably. 00:11 ShadowNinja I'll give you a hint. GitHub doesn't show it well but that function has only 22 arguments. 00:12 Kacey desc_slope_upsdown 00:12 Kacey needs to be usdwn to match the rest 00:12 NekoGloopMkII Kacey, that's fine 00:12 NekoGloopMkII Or, at least, functional. 00:12 NekoGloopMkII ShadowBot, well, go figure. 00:13 NekoGloopMkII ShadowNinja. 00:13 NekoGloopMkII Fucking ShadowBot, stop stealing the tabs. 00:13 Kacey idk then 00:14 ShadowNinja I wonder if this even runs. It might not be called. 00:16 NekoGloopMkII Seeing as I haven't played with technic since he was just starting to add MV? 00:17 khonkhortisan_ I switched from programmer dvorak to dvorak, and minetest rejects many less keys. 00:17 khonkhortisan_ It's just the numpad that isn't working now, instead of 3 turning into newline. 00:20 khonkhortisan_ Ego, only the mods that depend on them won't work. There is, however, a file that defines air and CONTENT_IGNORE. If you remove that, it will break. 00:23 Ego Definitely useful information 00:45 khonkhortisan_ ipv6 broke minetest again 00:50 sokomine suspicious posting: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99746#p99746 advertises for a free mc account. the page it points to is...suspicous to me 00:51 sokomine it asks people to advertise for it (that page) 3 times and pretends to check if that advertisement has been done. after that it promises a free mc account. seems to lead to a code generator 00:54 khonkhortisan_ the download link looks like a pay-per-click 00:55 khonkhortisan_ http://getperclick.com/ has many code generators for many things 00:55 sokomine i don't think it's maliscious on his part 00:57 sokomine he probably just found the link, thought he had to do the advertisement the site asked for (after all it's not too off-topic) and believed it. strangely enough, the program can be downloaded without doing anything. maybe it's malware 00:59 kahrl certainly a spam bot. see http://tyannakinsey.blogspot.de/2013/01/hurrah-you-wont-believe-this-i-just-got.html 00:59 kahrl captainfap probably used a weak password 01:00 kahrl well, or malware grabbed his password 01:00 sokomine i've pm'ed him. if he didn't post it he'll at least know to change his pw now 01:02 khonkhortisan_ Client->Address/Port->Press Up or Down->mainmenu.lua:685: attempt to index a nil value 01:02 NekoGloopMkII Yes, the lua menu is a POS 01:02 NekoGloopMkII we get it :P 01:10 ShadowNinja So far on technic: 44 files changed, 563 insertions(+), 7548 deletions(-) 01:10 ShadowNinja (This is not the first mod I have done this to...) 01:11 ShadowNinja A few hundred lines is just commented out currently. 01:11 ShadowNinja s/is/are/ 01:12 VanessaE wow 01:13 VanessaE hope you've been rebasing periodically :) 01:13 VanessaE (given how much development technic's seen of late) 01:23 suntonlain hello, i was still here, but sleeping ! 01:23 suntonlain :-) 01:24 suntonlain here in Romania is 4:23AM 01:24 suntonlain ;-) 01:26 suntonlain Abd i listen GoaPsyTrance from di.fm 01:26 suntonlain and 01:41 PilzAdam bye 01:43 eduhat hey guys, I just found out about minetest and downloaded it... pretty cool game. 01:43 eduhat now i just need to learn how to play! 01:43 suntonlain :-)) 01:45 eduhat how do I build stuff lol? 01:45 VanessaE dig and build, pretty basic really :) 01:46 VanessaE usually you start by felling a tree and using the wood to make sticks and wooden tools, then go from there 01:46 VanessaE left click digs. right click uses what you're holding (usually places) 01:47 eduhat yea I was messing around and digged some sand and placed it. thats about as far as I got 01:49 suntonlain eduhat, we wait to have an editor for minetest worlds 01:50 suntonlain is hard to made by hand objects in minetest 01:50 khonkhortisan dug 01:50 VanessaE not really 01:50 VanessaE if you want a world editor, use creative mode 01:51 khonkhortisan and worldedit 01:51 suntonlain why, notrealy ? 01:51 VanessaE yup 01:51 VanessaE and that terrain gun thingy that mauvebic did 01:51 eduhat what is world editor? 01:51 suntonlain yes i ue only creative 01:51 VanessaE worldedit 01:52 VanessaE it's a mod that allows you to do large operations at once 01:52 VanessaE e.g. building walls, filling/copying/moving areas, a few geometric primitives 01:52 suntonlain vanessaE, you have a server online, isn't it ? 01:52 VanessaE yes, but you need git from today to use it. 01:52 VanessaE vanessae.mine.bz:30000 01:53 suntonlain Eduhat, a world editor is a map editor 01:53 VanessaE suntonlain: not in this case. "worldedit" (one word) is not a map editor. 01:54 suntonlain and minetest not have a map editor, with terrain generator, and staff 01:54 VanessaE it's a library of commands one can use to effect large, bulk changes to the world, but you run it from within the game. 01:55 eduhat oh i see. I'd just like to start building stuff. Im going to have to read some tutorials 01:55 suntonlain yess VanessaE, at minetest, worldedit is not a mapeditor, is just a simple mod 01:55 VanessaE "simple"? hhe 01:55 VanessaE heh 01:56 suntonlain i talk about worldeditor like minecraft 01:56 VanessaE afaik, we don't have such a thing 01:56 suntonlain i talk about world editor like OMAN 01:56 eduhat how does minecraft compare to minetest? 01:57 VanessaE dunno, never played minecraft 01:57 suntonlain Oman is the best world editor 01:57 suntonlain ;-) 01:58 suntonlain if we can have a translater of maps from minecraft to minetest, then wew will can kill minecraft 01:58 VanessaE meh 01:58 suntonlain :-)) 01:58 VanessaE make your own maps 01:58 khonkhortisan We need to be able to move structures between servers, without actually having access to the server computer 01:59 suntonlain WanessaE, i will try to entry in your 3dspace 02:00 NekoGloopMkII minecraft is more gamey and minetest is more sandboxy 02:00 VanessaE suntonlain: you must use the latest git build from today. 02:00 VanessaE NekoGloopMkII: interesting way to put it 02:00 khonkhortisan From lua, what library can I use to store rotations? 02:01 suntonlain what is a 'git' ? 02:01 khonkhortisan a revision control system 02:01 VanessaE suntonlain: a source code rev...... yeah 02:01 khonkhortisan git svn cvs rcs etc 02:01 khonkhortisan hg/mercurial 02:02 VanessaE github is the site on which we store said source code. 02:02 suntonlain 0.4.7 is not good ? 02:02 khonkhortisan current git is not good. 02:02 khonkhortisan ipv6 crash 02:02 VanessaE when someone says "latest git", then mean you need to get the very latest development version of the source code from that side. 02:02 VanessaE site* 02:03 VanessaE suntonlain: not for my server. 02:03 VanessaE (because of a bug that just got fixed) 02:03 suntonlain well WanessaE, but you do not want to have ordinary visitors ? 02:03 VanessaE suntonlain: it's Vanessa (with a V) 02:03 khonkhortisan modders like the latest stuff 02:03 khonkhortisan or Van-tab 02:04 suntonlain Ah, sorry 02:04 VanessaE suntonlain: normally it would be fine, but not in this case. 02:05 suntonlain and i remember about a Vanessa with a nice site about minrcraft or minrtest, a person fro usa. 02:05 VanessaE that was probably me :-) (but minetest only) 02:06 suntonlain on that site are nice photos 02:06 suntonlain ah, well, then i am prowd to meet you 02:06 suntonlain you have a great site about minetest 02:07 VanessaE nope 02:07 VanessaE just a lot of forum posts and a wikia article for one of my mods 02:08 * khonkhortisan waits for his compile to finish before posting something here 02:08 suntonlain you knew ? infact ( not infect) minetest does not have a serious docummentation for noobs 02:09 VanessaE I knew what? 02:09 ShadowNinja suntonlain: wiki.minetest.net? 02:09 suntonlain his wiky is for developers and smart users 02:09 khonkhortisan PLEASE MERGE https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/794/files 02:09 khonkhortisan minetest will not run without this 02:10 suntonlain wiki is not for stupid users like me 02:10 VanessaE khonkhortisan: better mention that in -dev 02:10 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: enable_ipv6 = false? 02:10 VanessaE (though since I don't use ipv6 at all, it doesn't affectme) 02:10 khonkhortisan ShadowNinja, that's why it needs this commit. 02:11 suntonlain i want hekp for all kinds of users not only geniouses 02:11 khonkhortisan (though since your computer supports ipv6 at all times, it doesn't affect you) 02:11 VanessaE suntonlain: sooner or later we will have some decent docs for noobs 02:11 ShadowNinja The port issue has to be fixed in that pull. 02:11 VanessaE suntonlain: but a fair part of what applies to minecraft classic applies to minetest_game also 02:13 suntonlain VanessaE minetest need a OMAN like editor 02:13 VanessaE why? 02:13 VanessaE play the game, don't just edit the map :) 02:13 suntonlain that editor is the king of all editors 02:14 suntonlain aaaah, sorry, i love to make maps and stay at chat, not playng 02:16 suntonlain Minetest need a OMAN beacouse with minetest we can do a lotof kinds of 3d spaces 02:16 VanessaE if you wanna draw maps, go use a paint program :) 02:16 VanessaE suntonlain: so code it :) 02:18 suntonlain nope Vanessa,E, allredy i have VRML severs, and OpenSim too, but minetest family servers run more easy in my netbook 02:18 suntonlain OMG 02:18 suntonlain you say me about coding ? 02:18 suntonlain :-)))))) 02:18 VanessaE anyone can learn to program. 02:22 suntonlain No way for codding. My mind is of a old person 02:23 suntonlain And my english is so poor, and is hard for me to learn corect english 02:24 suntonlain then is hard for me to read in english 02:25 suntonlain Sincerely, nore in my mather language i do not knew grammar, sintax and so on ... 02:25 * Kacey just read the wiki on the modding api... 02:25 suntonlain And you tell me to make code ... 02:26 suntonlain :-))))))) 02:26 Kacey the instructions weren't clear enough... i got my cat stuck in the cieling fan... i dont even own a cat... 02:26 ShadowNinja Kacey: dev.minetest.net? 02:27 Kacey yep 02:54 suntonlain he he he, ...and I have a lotofthings to knew about using this IRC ... 02:54 suntonlain Great application this freenode 02:54 VanessaE freenode is a network, not an application 02:55 suntonlain ups ! 02:55 suntonlain just i was on your site 02:55 suntonlain but allredy was known from a few month ago 02:56 suntonlain whe i did searching about minetest. 02:57 suntonlain VanesaE, can I open a thread wit noobs using minetest ? 02:58 suntonlain with 02:58 VanessaE I don't run the forums, I'm just a mod there. anyone can create new threads (except in "News" and "Mod Releases") 03:00 suntonlain there in forum is another romanian 03:01 suntonlain virtual heghog or somethat ... 03:01 suntonlain wait to seee 03:01 suntonlain :-)) 03:02 hdastwb Menche, are you running repairs on your server? 03:04 kahrl radio just played dragostea din tei 03:04 kahrl only romanian thing i know :D 03:04 Menche sorry, restarted it a few times 03:05 Menche seeing if disabling debug logging will help with performancfe 03:05 Menche *performance 03:05 Menche i'm redirecting the output instead 03:06 Menche http://i.imgur.com/jIOkjNB.png 03:06 Menche entity duplication? 03:06 Menche (in an unloaded block) 03:06 kahrl Menche: seems to happen a lot on other servers as well 03:06 hdastwb indeed, I do remember seeing that when I teleported into spawn 03:07 hdastwb so, it seems like there's not currently any way of acquiring pumpkin seeds in minetest short of /give and creative… 03:13 suntonlain VanessaE you have 2 personal messages in minetest forum 03:13 suntonlain :-) 03:15 VanessaE suntonlain: er... 03:15 VanessaE *reads messages* 03:19 suntonlain sunt_on_lain mean i_am_online in english ;-) 03:22 khonkhortisan what does i_am_online mean then? 03:22 khonkhortisan I mean- 03:23 khonkhortisan what does I_am_online, meaning sunt_on_lain, mean in? 03:24 suntonlain yess is in romglish ... meaning romanian0english :-)) 03:25 suntonlain sunt = I am 03:25 suntonlain and 03:25 suntonlain onlain = online 03:25 suntonlain :-) 03:38 suntonlain Is 6:37AM here. I must to go. See You soon. Bye bye 03:47 meldrian ha, thats nothin, its 5:47 here and iam still there ^^ good morning everyone 03:51 hdastwb just about midnight here; I'm signing off 03:51 arsdragonfly good morning 03:52 arsdragonfly it's 11:52a.m. here right now 03:53 arsdragonfly Monday btw 06:51 sfan5 !rand 100 06:51 MinetestBot AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'replace' (file "/home/xyz/bot/irc.py", line 162, in safe) 08:32 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Get Out of the Dog House Day! :-D 08:55 webdesigner97 hi 08:57 Calinou hi 09:04 webdesigner97 how can I access param2 of a noed at ? 09:04 webdesigner97 *node 09:05 webdesigner97 ah 09:06 webdesigner97 minetest.get_node(pos).param2 :D 09:16 webdesigner97 is in on_blast the position where the explosion started or the position of the node? 10:07 arsdragonfly what are the listnames of a player's InvRef? 10:09 asdd444 Minetest sounds good,and it's supposed to be lightweight...but can it run OK on Intel Integrated Graphics? 10:09 arsdragonfly It's said that it runs playable on a GMA950 gpu 10:11 asdd444 I don't know much about what gpus are good and what's bad,only that my laptop isn't good.20 FPS tops on your more commerical competitor(during normal gameplay) 10:14 Calinou asdd444: it depends which 10:15 Calinou intel graphics range from "very crappy" to "acceptable" 10:15 asdd444 Mine is a i3,with integrated graphics. 10:15 Calinou 20 FPS tops in minecraft, expect 20 FPS topis in minetest too 10:15 Calinou I bet you have an atom 8) 10:15 Calinou oh 10:15 Calinou asdd444: which gen i3 10:15 Calinou more recent i3s should give you better FPS than that 10:15 Calinou but the first gen i3s still have very slow IGPs 10:17 asdd444 Still,the modding sounds good.What's it written in? 10:17 Calinou lua 10:17 asdd444 Ah,lua,so that means no arcane magic needed for modding then? 10:18 Calinou arcane magic? 10:18 asdd444 Like decompilation. 10:18 asdd444 That's how insane MC modding is. 10:19 Calinou decompilation AND deobfuscation 10:19 asdd444 I know.You get the point. 10:19 Calinou and no mod downloading over a server, if a server adds content, you have to mod your client yourself 10:19 asdd444 -wait,you can do that? 10:20 Calinou on minetest yes 10:20 Calinou textures, models and sounds are downloaded when you join a server, and cached 10:20 asdd444 Wow. 10:20 Calinou there is HTTP download support for faster downloads 10:20 Calinou this also makes server-side texture packs possible (but not enforceable) 10:20 Calinou like in minecraft 10:21 asdd444 Do you think it's possible to move a MC world to Minetest? 10:22 asdd444 If they both have a chunk size of 16x16x256 it should be... 10:29 asdd444 Irrlicht? The devs actually figured out how to stop it from crashing every second? 10:38 arsdragonfly is removing a wield item setting it to 'air 1'? 10:39 sfan5 asdd444: Minetest has a chunk size of 16x16x16 and there are multiple of them on the x axis 10:39 sfan5 arsdragonfly: you mean if don't hold anything in your hand 10:39 sfan5 #? 10:39 arsdragonfly if i'm holding something and i want to remove it 10:40 sfan5 asdd444: *y axis 10:40 asdd444 So basically,like minecraft. 10:40 sfan5 no 10:40 arsdragonfly 'air 1 10:40 asdd444 Actually,you'll find that minecraft has in it's chunks Sections. 10:40 sfan5 Minecraft has 16x256x16 chunks and there's only _1_ chunk on the x axis 10:40 arsdragonfly or 'default:air 1'? 10:41 sfan5 damnit 10:41 sfan5 *y axis 10:41 asdd444 Sections are 16x16x16. 10:41 arsdragonfly that is ,vertically 10:41 asdd444 They are put in a chunk,16x256x16. 10:41 sfan5 asdd444: MC has no such thing called "sections" 10:42 arsdragonfly sfan5 which one is right? 10:42 asdd444 http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Chunk_format 10:42 arsdragonfly 'air 1' or 'default:air 1' or something else? 10:42 asdd444 See "Sections" 10:42 sfan5 arsdragonfly: if you look into the default mod theres no air registered, air is named "air" 10:42 asdd444 in the NBT format. 10:43 arsdragonfly ok thx 10:45 sfan5 arsdragonfly: but to remove items you need to use "" not "air" otherwise you'll get the "air (you hacker you!)" item in your hand 10:45 arsdragonfly ok 10:45 arsdragonfly so ItemStack("") is valid right :-P 10:48 sfan5 yes 10:53 webdesigner97 hi again 10:53 SteveWarfare hi 10:54 sfan5 hi 10:54 SteveWarfare sfan its me Ragnar 10:54 SteveWarfare i forgot my pw :D 10:54 webdesigner97 1 week ago I had a suggestion in "feature discussion", but no developer answered yet :( http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6499 10:55 SteveWarfare but anyways... is there somebody that could help me build a membership system in PHP and MySQL? 10:55 SteveWarfare webdesigner97 10:55 SteveWarfare could you help me please? 10:55 SteveWarfare im thinking of reopening my Minetest Server 10:55 SteveWarfare but i first want a website :D 10:55 webdesigner97 I don't have time. I'm working on a website for my uncle 10:55 SteveWarfare oh :D 10:55 webdesigner97 :/ 10:55 SteveWarfare ok 10:56 SteveWarfare well is there anybody else? 10:56 webdesigner97 what about learning PHP and MySQL yourself? ;) 10:56 SteveWarfare idk where from 10:56 SteveWarfare .-. 10:57 SteveWarfare sfan5 10:57 SteveWarfare could you help? 10:57 sfan5 what? 10:58 SteveWarfare make a php/mysql membership system for my MT server 10:58 SteveWarfare .-. 10:58 SteveWarfare plz dood 10:58 sfan5 no 10:58 SteveWarfare oh ok <:/ 10:58 sfan5 google can help you+ 10:58 SteveWarfare mkay dood 10:59 SteveWarfare whats the default port of minetest? 11:00 webdesigner97 30000 11:00 SteveWarfare ok 11:00 SteveWarfare so 30k? 11:00 SteveWarfare so many zeros... 11:00 SteveWarfare but... would it run on port 27015\ 11:00 SteveWarfare ? 11:01 webdesigner97 i think yes. if 27015 is free 11:01 SteveWarfare it is 11:03 webdesigner97 then yes 11:03 SteveWarfare crap.... 0.4.3 lags as f***k... 11:03 SteveWarfare :D 11:03 SteveWarfare even with all the boxes checked off 11:03 SteveWarfare im getting like 1-3 fps... 11:03 webdesigner97 ouch 11:03 SteveWarfare ikr... 11:04 webdesigner97 gtg now. by 11:04 webdesigner97 *bye 11:04 SteveWarfare even Counter-Strike in Multiplayer while running my server with 2 more people on it doesnt lag that much 11:04 SteveWarfare o.o 11:06 SteveWarfare well guess the server idea is out... 11:06 SteveWarfare :/ 11:06 SteveWarfare i know, ill make a modding community website :D 11:12 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:13 SteveWarfare bye everyone! 11:33 asdd444 I've seen the api-but where's the "Get the type of this block" function? 11:37 sfan5 asdd444: which one? 11:38 asdd444 The Lua api. 11:39 asdd444 I haven't seen a get the type of this block function...but the api docs do seem to be incomplete.For example,there's functions missing from one page but on another. 11:44 kahrl asdd444: minetest.get_node? 11:45 asdd444 There's no wiki page on it,but i'll try it anyway,see what it returns... 11:46 kahrl !dev minetest.get_node 11:46 asdd444 I'm on the dev wiki. 11:47 kahrl oh, bot is down 11:47 kahrl http://dev.minetest.net/EnvRef:get_node 11:47 asdd444 Well that didn't make sense,but thanks. 11:47 kahrl it used to be minetest.env:get_node, it changed recently 11:48 asdd444 Ah,that does make sense....Back to work on my first test block titled "Decay" 12:42 PilzAdam kahrl, AFAIK the minetest.env:* -> minetest.* switch is not done in the dev wiki yet 12:50 asdd444 I've noticed the game slows down when you make a block that spreads to every other block that isn't itself or air. 13:21 webdesigner97 hi again 13:22 asdd444 Hello.I've been working on a world-destroyer. 13:23 webdesigner97 sounds.... interesting? 13:23 webdesigner97 Is PilzAdam here? 13:25 asdd444 The world-destroyer is a mod,which adds a block,which spreads,and eats the world.Leaving only itself. 13:26 asdd444 PilzAdam seems to be online,there's no Disconnect notice. 13:27 Exio4 webdesigner97: /whois $nick $nick 13:27 Exio4 two times 13:28 webdesigner97 thx 13:28 webdesigner97 it's not that important. I'll wait for him 13:56 webdesigner97 I need a new house to live in my singleplayer world 13:56 webdesigner97 My old one burnt down by accident :( 13:56 webdesigner97 http://im.bilderkiste.org/6137389657701/fire.png 13:58 Exio4 aw 13:59 webdesigner97 that's sad... but I'll build a new one 13:59 webdesigner97 the question is: What to do with the old? 14:01 asdd444 I say,surround it with air... 14:01 webdesigner97 huh? 14:01 asdd444 so that my Decay dosen't escape and destroy your entire world... 14:01 asdd444 And put decay on it. 14:01 asdd444 It's a easy way of removing it. 14:01 webdesigner97 ... 14:05 asdd444 ...Actually,destroying the whole world accidently because of someone forgetting to remove 1 block isn't a great idea. 14:05 asdd444 Rebuild it. 14:05 asdd444 On the spot. 14:05 asdd444 Where the old one is. 14:05 webdesigner97 Or I'll make look like a real ruin 14:05 webdesigner97 with trees and poison ivy in it 14:08 asdd444 Ah,good idea. 14:08 webdesigner97 I'll make a screenshot when it's finished 14:08 asdd444 And put a sign "Memorial to the Old House" 14:09 webdesigner97 maybe :D 14:10 asdd444 ...Linus? As in...no,it's not possible... 14:11 PenguinDad What isn't possible? 14:13 asdd444 That you'd be a certain person who made the linux kernel. 14:13 asdd444 Ah,Bad allocator error.I knew that decay would cause one eventually,it eats memory for breakfast. 14:13 asdd444 (oh,it's a n not a r.) 14:14 PenguinDad I'm not Linus Torvalds. 14:15 PenguinDad But Linus is the first part of my real name. 14:16 asdd444 Oh.And as for the penguin? 14:18 asdd444 ...How far down does Minetest go? I still haven't destroyed the world with my evil experiment: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/AAHHHH.png 14:22 whirm asdd444: lol, nanobots are eating your world! 14:23 asdd444 Not nanobots.Decay.I coded it myself to destroy the world.It still hasn't reached the bottom,and it's been going for ages. 14:24 asdd444 ...oh,maybe it has...or it could be the massive amount of stuff happening 14:24 whirm I think it was ~32000 deep 14:25 asdd444 Oh.So i'll never,ever,ever,ever,ever reach the bottom? 14:26 whirm asdd444: if you wait long enough... 14:27 asdd444 Exception:Access Violation.I've crashed it trying. 14:27 pandaro hello to all guys 14:27 suntonlain salut 14:28 pandaro I have a small problem with my mod: "player_radar" 14:28 pandaro can i ask here? 14:29 suntonlain sure, but not to me, becaise i am totaly noob 14:29 asdd444 Wow,a player radar? All i've managed so far is a simple-world destroying block. Nothing in comparison. 14:30 pandaro is very easy, i use get_connected_player() 14:30 pandaro but 14:30 pandaro i have a problem with formspec 14:31 pandaro from some updating formspec no longer displays images with dimensions smaller than 1. 14:32 pandaro example = "image [10,10, 0.9,0.9; object_radar_player.png]" is no longer displayed. 14:32 asdd444 ...smaller than 1? 1 pixel? 14:33 pandaro no, is not a pixel 14:33 webdesigner97 http://im.bilderkiste.org/3137389878450/fire.png 14:33 webdesigner97 http://im.bilderkiste.org/7137389879269/innen.png 14:33 webdesigner97 Screenshots of my house 14:33 pandaro is a internal measure of minetest 14:34 asdd444 Well,are the arguments:x,y,scalex,scaley or x,y,sizex,sizey? 14:34 pandaro if you try my player radar befor 0.47 relase it work 14:35 asdd444 Ah,here it tells me on the wiki. 14:36 asdd444 ...Ok,it says nothing about the coordinate system used. 14:36 pandaro i dont know, in the api is : image[,;,;]^ Show an image^ Position and size units are inventory slots 14:36 asdd444 oh...here.Inventory slots. 14:37 asdd444 Right...And why do you need it smaller than 1 slot? 14:37 pandaro because it represents a player within a very large area 14:38 pandaro so i need little 14:38 asdd444 Quick idea,a bit of a cheaty one,but why don't you make the image bigger so it scales the actual dot down? 14:38 pandaro mmm 14:38 pandaro i try in 5 minut 14:38 pandaro thanks 14:39 asdd444 So for half a slot,you take the source,make a image double the size and copy the source to the top-left. 14:39 asdd444 If the Minetest engine scales stuff to fit,it should work. 14:39 asdd444 As i said,bit cheaty,and incompatible with buttons. 14:44 PilzAdam back 14:44 PilzAdam damn, 4 minutes :-/ 14:44 pandaro nothing to do 14:44 pandaro hi adam 14:44 PilzAdam hey 14:46 asdd444 Pandaro,did it work? 14:46 pandaro no asdd444 14:46 asdd444 ...A screenshot of before and after? 14:48 pandaro before, my old version: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4835 14:49 asdd444 And now? 14:49 pandaro a moment please 14:53 ShadowNinja pandaro: You should talk to sapier about that. He was the most recent person to modify formspecs. 14:53 pandaro http://imgur.com/IV1ulWu 14:54 pandaro thanks for the info shadowNinja 14:54 asdd444 Instead of just a dot,make a dot with padding: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/Dot.png 14:54 asdd444 And keep the scale at 1. 14:55 suntonlain :-) OMG ! Great site this http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ ! 14:55 pandaro not very elegant, although it probably works 14:58 pandaro in fact if I used "box" instead of "image" I do what I want, but the problem is that it does not print images that are dim, but only semi-transparent 14:59 pandaro someone is simply unaware of a way to represent small colored dots on a formspec? 15:02 pandaro Formspec defines a menu. Currently not much else than inventories are 15:02 pandaro supported. It is a string, with a somewhat strange format. 15:02 PilzAdam john_minetest, hehe 15:02 pandaro i like speck 15:02 pandaro senfter 15:07 pandaro anyway thanks to all for the help, now I have to go, I'll try to ask sapier when I see it online 15:14 Jordach if theres one person i want in this channel again, it;s mauvebic 15:41 iqualfragile then get him back 15:42 * PenguinDad is back from playing Redeclipse. 15:42 Calinou red eclipse :D 15:42 iqualfragile i started playing unvanquished lately 15:43 iqualfragile hdastwb: why not use the elevator mod? 15:43 PenguinDad Calinou: My friend plays it too. 15:43 iqualfragile are you female or homosexual? 15:43 Calinou are there any players on unvanquished? 15:43 Calinou iqualfragile: le closed question 15:43 iqualfragile yes, but only in the evening 15:44 iqualfragile well… my evening at least 15:44 iqualfragile in about 3-4 hours 15:46 iqualfragile closed question? 15:46 Calinou are you female or homosexual? 16:06 hdastwb I just tried it; the field generator thing is quite expensive for something that you'd use *before* you set up a mine and it gliched me into the cave floor at one point 16:07 hdastwb I like the 2x2 staircases; I think I might switch to using those predominantly in shafts 16:11 iqualfragile you can just eddit the mod 16:11 iqualfragile but 2x2 staircases are not bad either 16:18 Jordach Today: 20th anniversary of Rave on Digitally Imported 16:19 Calinou [inception face] 16:19 Calinou what 16:19 Jordach its over 16:19 Jordach fuck 16:19 * Jordach goes to last played. 16:23 kaeza greetings 16:23 VanessaE greetz. 16:24 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/WO5UsMP.png <- Calinou 16:24 Guest13237 crap 16:25 Jordach Guest13237, hai kaz 16:25 Calinou le big .png 16:25 Calinou hi Guest13237 16:25 Calinou too bad you have a "2" in your name 16:25 Calinou would be l33t if you didn't have one 16:25 * Jordach has been at the beach all day 16:25 Jordach :) 16:25 Guest13237 hehe 16:25 Jordach 28*C too 16:26 Jordach 29*C in places 16:26 Calinou here's a ° 16:26 Calinou （╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ 16:26 Jordach upside down bracket needs to be higher Calinou 16:26 Calinou lol, it actually looks fine on the IRC logs 16:27 Jordach projectM is awesome 16:28 * Jordach just needs the accompanied LSD 16:28 Jordach and for once, my GPU is actually good at something 89fps 16:28 Jordach =* 16:29 Guest13237 I've just found that the game is unplayable without internet connection 16:29 Jordach huh? 16:30 Guest13237 the mainmenu seems to be downloading something it shouldn't, and blocking until the connection times out 16:30 Guest13237 now that I have no connection at home, the main menu does not show up at all 16:30 Jordach Guest13237, /msg nickserv identify 16:31 Guest13237 Jordach: I'm here only for a bit 16:31 Jordach oh 16:31 Guest13237 yey I'm banned from #-dev 16:31 Calinou Guest13237: old bug 16:31 Guest13237 (well, webchat is banned) 16:32 Calinou ponychat gets you automatic op as you join -dev 16:32 * Jordach slaps Calinou 16:32 Jordach i still retain only 92% of my sanity 16:32 Jordach the interwebs has the other 8% 16:33 kaeza_ Calinou: ? 16:33 Calinou kaeza_: joke :p 16:34 kaeza_ [13:32] Guest13237: old bug <-- this 16:34 Calinou yes, the freezing menu bug is there since always 16:34 kaeza_ it started since I pulled the new lua main menu 16:34 Jordach because serverlist 16:35 kaeza_ hrm 16:35 Jordach blame sapier now, even RBA makes better code 16:35 Jordach 16:35 kaeza_ I even have public_serverlist = false in conf 16:35 Jordach poke sapier to fix it 16:35 Calinou the menu shouldn't freeze in the first place, if this isn't preventable, timeout should be reduced to something like 5 secodns 16:35 kaeza_ (or whatever the setting is) 16:36 kaeza_ Jordach: sapier isn't here. could you notify him in #-dev? (or whoever it may concern) 16:37 kaeza_ meh, I'll open an issue on gh 16:37 Jordach kaeza_, just done 16:37 kaeza_ thx 16:38 Jordach not on gh though 16:38 Jordach i'm even more reliable than sapier 16:38 Jordach :P 16:38 Calinou but less reliable than TCP 16:38 Jordach but more reliable than UDP* 16:41 kaeza_ lol 16:41 kaeza_ hope this is enough: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/814#issuecomment-20982493 16:43 Jordach can certain members of the community, such as me, kaeza_ sokomine, Taoki and some others, get a group thing; eg, Old Member 16:43 asdd444 ...Ok,my world-destroying mod isn't fun enough.I'm working out recipes to turn Decay(the world-destroyer) into a automatic miner. 16:44 Jordach or something such as; Helpful User 16:44 kaeza_ Jordach: +1 16:44 Jordach although im more of an old member 16:44 Calinou Jordach: why? 16:44 Jordach Calinou, because i'm bored of Member 16:45 kaeza_ there aree tons of modders out there that have also done revolutionary mods 16:45 Jordach eg, sokomine, zeg9 16:45 kaeza_ s/tons/a few/ 16:45 Jordach your travelnet is awesome 16:45 Jordach cmon 3DS, die of battery loss so i can charge you 16:46 kaeza_ lol 3ds 16:46 Jordach the only game i want is Super Smash Bros Universe :P 16:47 Jordach because fuck Wii U 16:47 kaeza_ dunno, I still have meh olde PSX :P 16:47 Ego Does /ban command accept wildcards? 16:47 Jordach ha 16:47 Jordach Ego, nope.avi 16:47 Ego F7U12 16:47 Ego Some derp with an entire /8 is being lame. 16:47 Ego Erm, entire /16 16:48 Jordach youre allowed to say fuck. whether ShadowBot likes it or not :D 16:48 Jordach Ego, iptables 16:48 Ego Yep 16:48 kaeza_ hexawhatever again? 16:48 Jordach kaeza_, probably not 16:48 Jordach sweet, battery dead :) 16:48 kaeza_ inb4 3ds dead 16:49 Jordach nope 16:49 Calinou blender deaed 16:49 Jordach it used to have 1hr of usage from constant recharges, now it lasts all week 16:49 Jordach because i let it's lithium ions die 16:52 Jordach anyways, in London its 29*C 16:53 kaeza_ It's 5ºC here ;_; 16:53 Jordach lucky 16:53 Jordach i'd kill for that 16:53 * Jordach is shirtless 16:53 kaeza_ yeah sure 16:54 Calinou >lagging on MT server 16:54 Calinou >air bar appears while in lava 16:55 Calinou :p 16:55 Calinou it does make sense 16:55 Calinou it should also appear when you're in solid nodes 16:55 Calinou (suffocation) 16:58 Jordach \o/ my acer keyboard is breaking 16:58 PenguinDad It's not a bug. 16:58 Jordach brb - changing keybrd 16:58 VanessaE put it out of is misery 16:58 VanessaE :) 16:59 PenguinDad There is air stored in the nodes. 17:06 Jordach awesome. i found a 1995 mechanical keyboard lying around 17:06 Jordach cleaned it, works fine 17:09 thexyz http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6571 17:10 thexyz http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6570 17:10 thexyz what a quality shitposting 17:10 Calinou lol 17:10 thexyz http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6564 17:10 Calinou Ragnar logic 17:10 thexyz well this one is in offtopic at least 17:11 Calinou le onpon4 started a flamewar 17:11 thexyz time to rename offtopic to /b/ 17:11 Jordach my suggestion is: anything you fucking want 17:11 Jordach let's all suggest vista 17:11 Jordach :D 17:12 thexyz i mean, why the fuck do you ask this in minetest forums 17:13 thexyz oh also, we're obviously not sniffing yer emails 17:13 thexyz obviously, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SORM 17:13 Zeg9 [quote=Ragnar]also i can PM (query/msg) you on the IRC channel .-.[/quote] 17:13 Calinou any email provider does that unless you 1) send encrypted mail 2) receive encrypted mail 17:14 Calinou but the sender and receiver would still be known, as well as send date 17:14 thexyz tell that to mauvebic 17:14 Calinou they are, but people still praise them for unknown reasons 8) 17:14 Calinou like, "people don't know other stuffs so they are scared" 17:15 thexyz john_minetest: well, I'm talking about the second part of his message 17:16 thexyz I don't either 17:16 Exio4 Calinou: people doesn't give a fuck about privacy, that is sad but the truth :< 17:16 thexyz he's probably talking about @minetest.net email addresses 17:16 Exio4 .ru? 17:17 Calinou fact: mauvebic is the village drunk 17:17 thexyz which are provided by Yandex which is a russian company 17:17 Calinou Exio4: privacy is getting less and less relevant these days 17:17 thexyz Exio4: no, @minetest.net 17:17 Calinou john_minetest: you can use IRC over SSL :p 17:17 thexyz Exio4: check MX records 17:17 Calinou but it's still logged anyway, both serverside and clientside (idlers :D) 17:17 thexyz yeah 17:18 thexyz that's why his reply is not clear 17:18 Exio4 ah 17:18 Exio4 john_minetest: it is used for redirects though 17:18 thexyz I only use it for github issues & in-game credits tab 17:18 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/z6bzTzg.jpg 17:19 Jordach ^ my *new* keyboard 17:19 Jordach everything high tect except... 17:19 Exio4 http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Linux-for-Workgroups-Linux-3-11-s-feature-set-now-confirmed-1917712.html 17:19 thexyz john_minetest: aren't yo afraid of russia? 17:19 Exio4 linux for workgroups :D 17:19 Calinou https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/829 lol 17:19 Calinou john_minetest: in soviet russia, you cool russia 17:20 Calinou Jordach: way cooler than these 90€ corsair mechanical keyboards :3 17:20 Calinou -1 for beer 17:20 Jordach Calinou, energy drink 17:20 Calinou same thing 17:20 thexyz it's союз though 17:20 Jordach Calinou, it also makes a sweet mechanical sound when i type now 17:21 Jordach (it even has a coiled phone cable like lead!) 17:21 thexyz john_minetest: do you study russian? 17:22 Jordach Calinou, PS/2 ftw 17:22 Jordach <- old school 17:22 Jordach skool* 17:22 Calinou my mobo, which is a S1155 one, still has a PS/2 port :P 17:22 Calinou even the S1150 ones do 17:23 Calinou same for VGA ports 17:23 Exio4 i haz one PS/2 port 17:23 Ego Does anyone have creative_inventory mod? 17:23 Exio4 i have usb2.0 ports! 17:23 Calinou no 17:23 Ego The Dropbox link to the download is borked. 17:23 Calinou Exio4: very few mobos, to not say "none" are 3.0-only 17:23 Ego \ 17:23 PenguinDad I have USB3.0 ports. 17:24 Exio4 Calinou: i know, it was a joke 17:24 Exio4 i have 14 (or 12, or 16, i don't recall) usb 2.0 ports :P 17:24 Exio4 lemme check 17:24 thexyz Jordach: how's ps/2 old school? how else would you be able to press any number of keys? 17:25 Yepoleb yes 17:25 Exio4 i still have my ps2 key near in case i break this usb one 17:26 Exio4 14 x USB 2.0 port(s) (8 at back panel, black+red, 6 at mid-board) 17:26 Exio4 only 12, aww 17:26 Yepoleb i don't have ps2 ports :'( 17:26 Ego Vanessae 17:26 Exio4 Yepoleb: what? 17:27 VanessaE WHAT!?!??! :) 17:28 kaeza_ awwww http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6573 17:28 Ego You said in the thread for the creative_inventory mod that you had/were using the 0.4 git of creative_inventory , do you still have that, by any chance? 17:28 kaeza_ Jordach: ^^^^ 17:28 Ego 0.1, 0.2, and 0.3 are linked to a Dropbox that is 404'd. 17:28 Ego I'd really like it. 17:29 Exio4 kaeza_: add more w(s)! 17:29 VanessaE Ego: I use Unified Inventory, which comes with Technic, and which is taken from technic's git 17:29 MarkTwain Someone help me choose 17:29 Ego I'm trying to get creative inventory only for particular people.. 17:30 MarkTwain http://marktest.co.uk/CMS/ OR http://marktest.co.uk/MEDIA/ ?? 17:30 MarkTwain For a main page 17:30 VanessaE that I don't know how to do, but wasn't there already a mod that does that? 17:30 Ego There's a creative mod that you can set creative on and turn people's inventories back to survival, but there are a couple bugs with it. 17:30 PenguinDad MarkTwain: CMS 17:30 MarkTwain Really? 17:30 MarkTwain But think about the load time 17:30 Ego Mainly, they can't collect more than 1 item of things, and the pagination of the mod goes by 2s often. 17:30 Ego Can't collect more than one if you're on survival inventory. 17:30 MarkTwain And is it better than http://marktest.co.uk/OLD 17:33 MarkTwain Because Random 17:33 MarkTwain Remote Media 17:33 Yepoleb because of #swag 17:33 MarkTwain And other stuff that is classified 17:33 Yepoleb and #yolo 17:34 MarkTwain Not ONLY 17:34 MarkTwain Thats why i need some content 17:34 Ego http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5399 Vanessae 17:35 Ego That only works if the world is already on creative, and then the people with survival inventories can only obtain 1 of each item, and the pagination is a little buggy 17:35 * VanessaE shrugs 17:35 VanessaE ask traxie if you can find her :) 17:35 MarkTwain Check http://marktest.co.uk/OLD/ now 17:36 MarkTwain images were screwed up 17:36 MarkTwain It should explain the use 17:36 Calinou VanessaE: last time I saw hear was like 2 months ago on xonotic :P 17:37 VanessaE she did say she was gonna be away for a while. 17:37 MarkTwain Who likes /MEDIA/ Better than /CMS/ 17:38 Calinou VanessaE: she said she was "leaving for a month or so" in... april, iirc 17:38 Calinou "and maybe forever in october" 17:38 VanessaE yeah 17:38 VanessaE something about a job I think it was? 17:39 Calinou yes 17:42 Ego Ah, if you start the game on survival with that addon, you can change people to creative, and it paginates properly, but they can't collect items at all, they can't drag items from the library to their inventory. 17:44 Ego Would anyone know how to fix that? :o 17:52 Jordach nope.aci 17:52 Jordach avi* 17:52 Calinou inb4 rickroll 17:52 PenguinDad 602 stars on github 17:52 Ego Jordach, do I have to make a yep.avi just for you to respond in kind, ever?!?! =P 17:56 PenguinDad Matti? 17:56 Mati^1 ?? 17:57 PenguinDad The name of one of my classmates is Matti. 17:57 Mati^1 realy im Maciek ;) 17:58 Jordach (okay, this keyboard works fine :) 17:58 PenguinDad Mati^1: sorry 17:58 Mati^1 kein problem ;) 18:00 Yepoleb genau 18:00 Mati^1 ja wohl ;) 18:00 PenguinDad john_minetest: hast recht! 18:00 Exio4 wat 18:00 Exio4 !english 18:01 Mati^1 überzahlbar ;) 18:02 Yepoleb ist der channel schon übernommen? 18:03 Exio4 would be possible to switch to english, now? 18:04 PenguinDad They are talking about things that you don't need to know. 18:04 Exio4 world domination? 18:04 Exio4 pr0n? 18:04 Exio4 what? :> 18:05 PenguinDad Channel domination! 18:05 Yepoleb yeah, world domination 18:06 Yepoleb perfect plan 18:06 * Exio4 shutdows john_minetest's multivers 18:06 Exio4 e 18:06 PenguinDad Good plan! \o/ 18:07 MarkTwain It works! 18:07 MarkTwain No leave function though 18:07 MarkTwain :) 18:08 Yepoleb can shaders be installed as a mod? 18:10 NekoGloopMkIII wazzup 18:12 MarkTwain If anyone is interested, i am testing my bot on #mtm 18:13 MarkTwain what command disconnects from irc? 18:14 Exio4 MarkTwain: nobody cares 18:14 MarkTwain Im not offering to tell you! 18:14 Exio4 Yepoleb: nope, shaders are "in" client/shaders/ 18:14 MarkTwain I am asking ! 18:14 Yepoleb thanks 18:14 Exio4 though you can't do much with them right now 18:15 Yepoleb why? 18:22 Ego It seems Traxie is my only hope.. /cry /wrist 18:23 Calinou cry on your wrist 18:24 Yepoleb Why can't you do mucht with the shaders? 18:24 MasterBot I am not a bot 18:24 MasterBot Just testing the nick 18:24 MasterBot So, how's life? 18:24 VanessaE shaders are still somewhat new 18:25 VanessaE so we don't have a lot of actual shader types yet 18:25 Mati^1 and this is my new bunker http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ST63gwDs2o&hd=1 Jurata polen ;D 18:25 VanessaE (just brighter tops/darker bottoms, the water height thing, and bumpmapping) 18:26 MarkTwain Who likes this format: 18:26 MarkTwain [ #minetest ] MarkTwain : Who likes this format: 18:27 VanessaE for what? 18:27 VanessaE (what medium I mean) 18:27 Yepoleb how can i enable the water height thing? 18:27 * VanessaE puts a puppy on NekoGloopMkIII's head (the kitten generator's glitching out again) 18:27 VanessaE Yepoleb: just turn shaders on in the Settings menu 18:28 VanessaE or enable_shaders = true in minetest.conf 18:28 VanessaE (or = 2 if your minetest is not very recent) 18:28 Yepoleb what should it do? 18:28 NekoGloopMkIII That doesn't use shaders anymore, does it? 18:28 VanessaE it lowers the height of water source nodes by roughly 2 pixels 18:28 VanessaE (to look similar to MC) 18:29 Yepoleb the darker corners work, but the water doesn't 18:29 VanessaE darker corners? 18:30 Yepoleb the shadow in the corners 18:30 VanessaE oh 18:30 VanessaE (that's a shader?) 18:30 Yepoleb idk 18:31 VanessaE hey Taoki. 18:31 Taoki hi 18:32 Taoki Yay for KDE update ^^ 18:32 Yepoleb oh, it's not 18:32 VanessaE XFCE ftw 18:34 Yepoleb how can i check if the shaders are actually enabled? 18:34 VanessaE look in your minetest.conf 18:34 VanessaE it'll mention it, if they've ever been enabled/disabled before 18:34 MasterBot hello 18:35 MasterBot Its me again 18:35 VanessaE hi 18:35 MasterBot Il go to #bots now, bye 18:38 Yepoleb i'm using the minetest ppa, but when i start the game it says VER=0.4.7 BUILD_TYPE=Release 18:39 VanessaE ti always does 18:39 VanessaE it* 18:39 VanessaE git/nightly builds don't have a "special" version number. 18:40 VanessaE (and "release" is the normal setting regardless of when it was pulled) 18:43 Yepoleb i will build it myself and try if it works 18:43 VanessaE it's pretty easy to build, at least in linux 18:43 * NekoGloopMkIII sits in an office chair and spins around 18:43 Jordach \O/ http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99891#p99891 18:43 * Jordach is happy 18:45 Yepoleb can i use -j 4 instead of -j2? 18:45 VanessaE use whatever value is appropriate to the number of cores you have 18:45 VanessaE if you have two, use -j3. if you have four, use -j5, etc 18:46 Yepoleb why -j5 with 4 cores? 18:46 VanessaE because it ensures that all 4 cores are kept saturated through the entire build, or as much as possible anyway 18:47 Yepoleb i'm using -j 4 and it uses 100% on all cores 18:47 proller because io slower than core 18:49 Jordach MinetestBot! 18:49 MinetestBot Jordach! 18:49 Jordach hai sweetie 18:51 Yepoleb the shaders don't work, although i enabled them 18:52 Exio4 how do you know they don't work? 18:52 VanessaE Yepoleb: what video card? 18:54 Yepoleb nvidia geforce 560ti with driver version 313.30 18:54 Exio4 i ask other time 18:54 Exio4 how do you know they don't work? 18:55 Yepoleb the water is still a full block 18:55 VanessaE what version of irrlicht? 18:56 Exio4 yathat is new_style_weate 18:56 Exio4 water 18:56 Exio4 (other option) 18:56 Exio4 that isn't managed by shaders anymore 18:56 Exio4 since 0.4.5 iirc? 18:57 Yepoleb irrlicht is version 1.7.3 18:57 VanessaE odd, it should be working. 18:57 Exio4 new_style_water = true in your minetest.conf 18:57 Exio4 VanessaE, Yepoleb, can you please remove me of your ignore list? 18:57 Exio4 :| 18:57 VanessaE I'm not ignoring you, Exio4 18:57 VanessaE I just missed that part 18:57 Exio4 good 18:58 VanessaE (I'm a little slow on the uptake lately) 18:59 Yepoleb new_style_water works \o/ 19:02 thexyz http://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_posts&user_id=6664 19:12 Yrol_Denjeah Greetings :o) 19:12 Jordach !rev Yrol_Denjeah 19:12 MinetestBot haejneD_lorY 19:13 Jordach nuthin useful 19:13 Jordach Yrol_Denjeah, your name looks reversed, which it isnt 19:13 PilzAdam sfan5, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99945#p99945 inb4 ragnar in full caps lock on -dev "CAN I HAZ OTHER NAME!" 19:13 Yrol_Denjeah oO 19:13 sfan5 PilzAdam: probably 19:13 Jordach lock it 19:13 Jordach best option 19:14 thexyz PilzAdam: i already asked c55 19:14 thexyz http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2013-07-15#i_3199520 19:14 ehcneM he wants to change his name to something that can't be pronounced? 19:14 Jordach hey ehcneM 19:14 Jordach /nick menche 19:15 ehcneM (well, my name can't be really pronounced backwords either) 19:15 Jordach also: there is nothing wrong with mediafire; just adf.ly is wrong 19:15 ehcneM mediafire force-feeds you ads before letting you download 19:15 Jordach ehcneM, no 19:15 ehcneM you can't wget from mediafire 19:15 thexyz we should have a rule stating that all links should be wget-able 19:15 Jordach that's why i like adblock 19:15 Menche not having direct links is really annoying 19:15 Jordach thexyz, good bye to modders 19:15 thexyz bye 19:15 Jordach who've converted 19:16 * Menche waves 19:16 Jordach from that *other* game 19:16 thexyz are there any? 19:16 PilzAdam thexyz, +1 for that rule 19:16 Jordach thexyz, nope 19:16 Yrol_Denjeah Why are the worlds i delete from within the game not deleted? 19:16 Jordach but the only other file upload place that does wget-able crap is sfan5.dyndns.org:8080/uplaod 19:16 thexyz oh well, there will be mod database some day 19:16 Jordach upload* 19:16 Jordach sfan5.dyndns.org:8080/upload 19:17 thexyz github? 19:17 Menche github, dropbox, U1... 19:17 Jordach not many people know of U1, Dropbox isn't used with MC Modders 19:17 sfan5 Jordach: please use sfan5.duckdns.org, as my dyndns account could expire if I don't sign in 19:17 Jordach and surefire way of knowing that they probably dont have gittyhubby 19:18 sfan5 thexyz: then the noobs would ask "what is wget-able?????" 19:18 Jordach leave it as is; mediafire works for me 19:18 Menche and annoys everyone else 19:18 Jordach (not to mention you have tools like r-sync 19:18 Jordach ) 19:18 Yepoleb what is wget-able????? 19:18 thexyz sfan5: well we should reword it 19:19 PilzAdam thexyz, "wget should return 0" 19:19 Exio4 lol 19:19 PilzAdam then we get rid of all the noobs 19:19 thexyz we need mod database 19:19 Menche github (or another vcs host) is the definitive best way of distributing mods 19:19 thexyz PilzAdam: that'll teach them 19:19 Menche don't need to extract a stupid archive and updating is a single command 19:19 Yepoleb noo, dont get rid of the noobs 19:20 asdd444 If anyone has a black screen when ingame,on a Toshiba laptop with a Intel i3,switch all the options on.That worked,oddly enough. 19:20 Jordach asdd444, scale the window 19:20 Jordach should fix it 19:20 asdd444 No,i've already fixed it.I just mentioned how. 19:20 VanessaE thexyz: would you mind giving me the necessary privilege so I can move individual posts? 19:21 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99918#p99918 --> trash 19:21 Jordach we need a place called: hall of shame 19:21 Menche LOL 19:21 Jordach where trolling posts go 19:22 Menche thinks he needs a central account to join servers? 19:22 Yepoleb whats trolling? 19:22 Menche it's not like there's a "connect" button when you don't have an account... oh wait there is... 19:22 Menche some people... 19:23 PilzAdam Yepoleb, what you are currently doing ;-) 19:23 Jordach Yepoleb, you just did it: blindly "knowing" a fact when you say it's wrong 19:24 Menche VanessaE: having a problem with pipeworks on my server 19:24 Yepoleb PilzAdam: i'm eating crisps 19:24 Menche 10:32:15: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: /home/menche/.minetest/mods/pipeworks/item_transport.lua:62: attempt to index a nil value 19:24 VanessaE whats the problem? 19:24 VanessaE ah 19:24 Menche it crashes with that message whenever a certain player logs in 19:24 Yrol_Denjeah Jordach, no, thats called parenting... 19:24 thexyz VanessaE: moderators already have all possible permissions enabled 19:25 Jordach VanessaE, bad post -> trashcan 19:25 asdd444 ...Ok,turns out that the black screen i had was actually because i was stuck in a tree,and Fancy Trees fixed it. 19:25 Jordach asdd444, D: 19:25 Yepoleb Jordach: don't put VanessaE into the trashcan! 19:25 VanessaE thexyz: I've never seen any option to move posts. 19:25 VanessaE (just whole threads) 19:26 Menche and has anyone figured out how to delete polls? 19:26 Menche *yet* 19:26 thexyz VanessaE: well, you click "moderate topic", then select posts, then click "Delete whole topic" 19:26 thexyz uh, i mean move selected posts 19:26 thexyz this shit is unselectable 19:27 PilzAdam someone booted with --verbose today: http://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_posts&user_id=5858 19:27 VanessaE thexyz: OH! 19:27 VanessaE I've never clicked that option 19:27 thexyz woo 19:27 VanessaE Menche: I think I see the problem, lemme see if I can fix it 19:29 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99954#p99954 19:29 Jordach :P 19:29 Jordach hey Calinou 19:29 Calinou hi 19:29 VanessaE Menche: try this at line 62: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5878507/ 19:30 VanessaE make that change, sign in as the affected user, and tell me if that fixed it 19:30 Calinou 99954! soon to have a PID 100000 post 19:30 VanessaE somehow you've got an unknown pipeworks-related node in there 19:31 hdastwb autocrafters seemed to not have any textures… 19:31 VanessaE Menche: or try this if that doesn't work: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5878510/ 19:32 VanessaE I'm still new at using that particular call 19:33 kahrl When I tested the node definition vector commit, I had a mod that registered thousands of nodes 19:33 kahrl Which got me wondering again how the long item visual preload time that stems from that could possibly be reduced 19:33 VanessaE Menche: or if that second one doesn't work, try this third one: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5878520/ 19:33 Menche unfortunately, i decided to do a /clearobjects a few minutes ago, so i'll have to wait a bit before being able to test that :P 19:34 VanessaE Menche: that won't have any effect 19:34 Menche it takes a while on my server; at least it doesn't crash anymore 19:34 VanessaE but ok 19:34 VanessaE try all three, one at a time 19:34 sokomine kahrl: by disabling preload_items_visual. it helped me a lot when i disabled that option. before, it took ages to connect to a world. now it's pretty fast again 19:34 Jordach 99960 Calinou 19:34 Menche there were a lot of duplicated entities littered around 19:34 kahrl sokomine: I know about that option, but it just moves the time to in-game 19:34 Menche it needed to have that done 19:35 VanessaE kahrl: the main time hog is how the extrude routine switches between opaque and transparent pixels - the closer you are to 50% of the pixels being transparent (not I don't mean 50% alpha), the longer it takes. 19:35 kahrl sokomine: which could be very not cool if such a frametime spike happens to happen when you get attacked by a horde mobs 19:35 sokomine menches server suffers from too many objects (as do many current servers :-(). redcrabs to my knowledge does not seem to be affected, so it was probably introduced in one of the newer versions 19:35 kahrl VanessaE: well, in the case I tested, the extrude routine was not called at all 19:35 VanessaE oh? 19:36 kahrl VanessaE: remember, these were all nodes (drawtype normal) 19:36 VanessaE kahrl: oh cubes, ok. 19:36 kahrl so, my first idea was to simply use createCubeMesh instead of the mesh generator for NDT_NORMAL... minor benefit, but still very slow 19:36 VanessaE plants will do it (junglegrass and dry shrubs were the big ones when I was first making HDX) 19:36 Exio4 recode it in ASM kahrl 19:36 sokomine kahrl: no problem about moving the time to in-game. there are seldom many nodes used at one spot, and accessing your locked chest got so horribly slow on servers that the short time it takes to render these images plain simply does not matter 19:36 Jordach 99964 post id 19:37 Menche a view of the duplicated entites on my server in an unloaded block: http://imgur.com/jIOkjNB 19:37 Jordach oh crap, im over posting for once 19:37 Jordach dun dun durr 19:37 sokomine it has only an effect if you're using a craftguide. even then you might want to pause from time to time to actually look at the nodes presented. and real buildings stick to a much more limited amound of nodes 19:37 kahrl sokomine: maybe it's bearable, but I like the idea that the game has done all the heavy work before the game starts 19:38 kahrl and it would be nice if that entire part of the codebase could be optimized, in any case 19:38 VanessaE kahrl: what I don't understand is why we're even bothering to extrude or render to texture at all - why not extrude only when a wield item needs it, but display the real in-game objects otherwise? 19:38 sokomine kahrl: for that framerate drop, the item duplication bug (or whatever it is) is more than enough. the preload_items_visual delay is very mild by comparison :-) 19:38 sokomine but maybe that's just my experience because my machine and graphics card got slightly faster (not really much...) 19:39 Jordach breaking up fights: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99965#p99965 19:39 Jordach i aint your friggin moderator 19:39 Jordach either hire me or dont 19:39 * Calinou hires Jordach as pony 19:39 Jordach mauvebic + onpon4 = flame war 19:39 VanessaE kahrl: that is to say, is render-to-texture even needed at all to display an object in the actual world, or is it just needed for the inventory et.al? 19:39 * Jordach runs for it 19:39 Jordach no noooo! 19:39 kahrl VanessaE: well, no using render-to-texture would be a nice way of doing it if it could be done 19:40 kahrl because I profiled all the parts of the code that were left 19:40 Calinou "or perhaps by selling programming services" 19:40 Calinou hurr durr 19:40 Exio4 optimize the 10% 19:40 Exio4 not the 90? :P 19:40 Calinou you need to sell them to companies that make closed source :P 19:40 kahrl every part took 0ms or 1ms, except one part that took 15ms-20ms 19:40 kahrl that part was rendering to the texture 19:40 sokomine kahrl: yes, optimizing that would be fine. until that's done, i've decided for myshelf that preload_items_visual off saves my nerves a lot 19:40 kahrl and it's just a 64x64 texture and a simple cube mesh 19:41 asdd444 ...I have a idea for a mod.I've been implementing it myself,but i wonder if it's actually worth implementing.If you want a link to the infomation,just tell me. 19:41 Exio4 kahrl: make it multithreaded 19:41 * Exio4 runs 19:41 Exio4 :P 19:42 sokomine asdd: what does the mod do? 19:42 * kahrl is too old and slow to catch Exio4 :P 19:42 Exio4 aw 19:42 Exio4 anyway, really 19:43 Exio4 wouldn't be possible to make that process "multithreaded"? 19:43 asdd444 It's a automatic mining system,but it only mines down,dosen't give items yet, 19:43 asdd444 and the materials used to craft it can be used to destroy the world. 19:43 Calinou inb4 making minetest into chromium 19:43 kahrl VanessaE: the question is if it's possible to set up irrlicht (z buffer, projection/world view matrix, lights, ...) properly during the GUI rendering 19:43 kahrl Exio4: not really, irrlicht expects you to do all rendering on the main thread 19:43 sokomine used to destroy the world? in the way of a pick, lava, or crash the server? 19:43 kahrl afaik 19:44 Exio4 kahrl: damn 19:44 asdd444 Sokomine,it spreads about and eats everything.It's called "Decay" in my document: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/NOTES.txt 19:44 kahrl well, another option would be to not use irrlicht's render-to-texture to make images of cubes, but use our own software rendering code 19:45 Exio4 but 19:45 VanessaE kahrl: well surely it's "possible" 19:45 Exio4 how fast is it? 19:45 sokomine ah, ok. best introduce it in modding general then, asdd. there may be players who like it 19:45 VanessaE nearly anything is, it's more a matter of how much work it'll take 19:45 kahrl if we were using plain opengl it'd be trivial 19:46 kahrl maybe it's trivial with irrlicht too, but I don't know 19:46 asdd444 Sokomine,of course,the world-destroying thing may make the kind of people who blow up their own(and other peoples) houses on minecraft happy...uhoh. 19:49 asdd444 ...I've already implemented a sort-of working prototype of the mod,if anyone wants it. 19:49 sokomine as long as it requires server owners to install your mod it ought to be ok? it would'nt get installed on a building server i think. perhaps more in singleplayer worlds for players who feel in a mood to destroy anything. unless you have found a bug that threatens all worlds? 19:50 asdd444 Nope.It's not a bug,either.It requires the server owner to install it,on their server,and then someone has to be stupid enough to place a block labeled "Decay".And it dosen't do anything when 19:50 asdd444 unloaded. 19:51 Menche there's no way for a client mod to do anything on a server. Only server mods matter. 19:53 asdd444 Here's a mod targeted for single player people who want to either watch the world be destroyed,or simply make small holes.Depends what items you use: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21184720/testevil.7z 19:53 sokomine well, then the mod ought to be ok. just tell people not to install it on servers where people built 19:53 asdd444 ...Yes,i very strongly recommend that... 19:53 VanessaE Menche: any chance you could kill/restart your server and try one of those three patches? I expect the third one is the right way. 19:54 asdd444 Also,the label of that file,the NOTES.txt file within it...I think that no-one's going to accidently install it and wreck their server. 19:54 VanessaE I'd like to push this to pipeworks git if it solves the issue. 19:55 PilzAdam Jordach, see what I did there? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6573 19:55 Menche VanessaE: is that in addition to or in place of the if statement there? 19:55 VanessaE in place of. 19:55 Jordach i see one spelling error 19:56 Jordach and bullshit about not having a life: i have a girlfriend 19:56 Jordach and it aint MinetestBot -- despite what it seems 19:56 Jordach :P 19:56 Calinou haha 19:56 asdd444 Jorach instead of Jordach? 19:56 Calinou 3000 posts? never noticed 19:56 * Jordach is also at legal age 19:56 Menche !sfu Jordach 19:56 MinetestBot Jordach Member 3,253 posts, registered on 2011-10-03 | id: 332 19:57 Calinou !sfu Calinou 19:57 MinetestBot Calinou Moderator 2,025 posts, registered on 2011-08-01 | id: 194 19:57 Jordach !sfu PilzAdam 19:57 MinetestBot PilzAdam Developer 2,951 posts, registered on 2012-07-20 | id: 2443 19:57 Menche !sfu Menche 19:57 Calinou reached 2000 recently :D 19:57 MinetestBot Menche Member 915 posts, registered on 2011-07-02 | id: 153 19:57 Menche :( 19:57 PilzAdam ShadowBot, OP MinetestBot 19:57 Calinou TIL Menche beats me at registration date 19:57 * Menche is not very chatty 19:57 asdd444 Since you seem to be having fun saying Sfu,i'll say !nyan Nyan! Nya! 19:57 PilzAdam MinetestBot! 19:57 MinetestBot PilzAdam! 19:57 * Jordach hopes !op works 19:57 Jordach !op 19:57 Jordach dammit MinetestBot 19:58 MinetestBot Jordach: nope.avi 19:58 Jordach shush PilzAdam in disguise 19:58 asdd444 What,does the @ mean it's in disguise? 19:59 Jordach the @ symbol means they can control the channel's configurations 19:59 Jordach such as who can mute a person, etc 19:59 Jordach remove a person from the chat 19:59 Jordach etc.. 19:59 RealBadAngel or simply kick someone in the ass ;) 19:59 Jordach RealBadAngel, for once i can say your code is better than sapier's 20:00 asdd444 Just thinking,because Minetestbot sounded like a bot without the @,and then it didn't when it had the conversation with PilzAdam. 20:00 * MinetestBot kicks RealBadAngel 20:00 RealBadAngel hehe, Jordach, which one? 20:00 Jordach he fucked up formspecs 20:00 Jordach you didnt 20:00 MinetestBot I'm a good bot, I can pass the Turing test! 20:00 Jordach (anyone using master wont work with the stable.) 20:00 Jordach MinetestBot, bullshit sweetie 20:00 asdd444 Haha,who's pretending to be MinetestBot. 20:00 Jordach PilzAdam is 20:00 MinetestBot Jordach: no u 20:01 Jordach see 20:01 asdd444 You are a bad bot.Naughty bot! Bad,bad,bot! 20:01 Jordach MinetestBot has some secret commands to allow her to talk as a normal person 20:01 * Jordach claps 20:01 Menche MinetestBot has a temper too 20:01 * Calinou clops 20:01 * Jordach claps 20:01 * Menche ducks 20:02 PilzAdam Calinou, /)(\ 20:02 Jordach ow bitch 20:02 Calinou bro hoof :D 20:02 Jordach smashed my hand!! 20:02 PilzAdam Calinou, clopping 20:02 asdd444 ...I'm sure MinetestBot didn't do that by itself. 20:02 PilzAdam asdd444, the @ means you can do that 20:02 Calinou lol 20:02 * Calinou is playing #wolfgame 20:02 asdd444 Yes,Pilzadam,but i think it's not really the bot speaking when it has the @. 20:03 Exio4 MlnetestBot 20:03 Yrol_Denjeah oO 20:03 Calinou my little NekoGloop test Bot 20:06 Calinou a wild Naked joins 20:06 * PilzAdam shoots it 20:06 Naked o/ 20:07 NekoGloopMkII meow 20:07 Calinou Naked, /) 20:08 asdd444 Pilzadam,that's a bit mean.Anyway,a wild Asdd444 appeared,and used Give You A Present That Acts As A Shield For Naked.Why? I don't know,it seemed like a good idea at the time. 20:08 NekoGloopMkII Hey, dude, use spacing on your punctuation. 20:09 Exio4 i'm seriously thinking asdd444 is a random troll 20:09 Naked yes he uses capital letters for all words 20:09 Naked trolls do that 20:10 Exio4 or at least a very annoying guy 20:10 Exio4 that is :> 20:10 Calinou by that logic, micheal larabel is a troll 20:10 Calinou :-) 20:11 pehjota Calinou: You mean he isn't? :) 20:11 asdd444 I could tell you why that is actually more correct than no caps on the move name, but that might annoy you more. 20:12 pehjota Yeah, Pikachu uses Thunderbolt, not thunderbolt. 20:12 VanessaE Menche: *poke* 20:14 asdd444 Ok, as for the multiple word issue, Dragon Rage is capitalized the way I just said it. 20:15 NekoGloopMkII Ironic that I'm making a Fire Red rom hack atm 20:15 Menche VanessaE: trying to find where he was 20:16 Menche for some reason his current location is above the cloud layer 20:17 hdastwb carl? 20:17 Menche yeah 20:17 Menche hdastwb: you said you had unknown items in your inventory? 20:18 hdastwb yes, about 30 of them 20:18 asdd444 Ok...2 NekoGloops. 20:18 NekoGloopMkIII ignore my shitty connection to freenode 20:18 hdastwb I don't remember what I put there… 20:19 Menche you have 27 of pipeworks:sand_tube_000000 20:19 Menche 48 of farming_weed, 32 default:steel_ingot 20:19 Menche don't see anything strange with about 30 items 20:20 hdastwb hmm; I moved them around a bit; the server was lagging pretty badly, so they might be in separate stacks… 20:20 Menche yeah you have 2 stacks of sand tubes 20:20 hdastwb I'm trying to sign back in and get another look at it, but I'm not connecting 20:21 hdastwb there we go 20:22 Menche aaand it's using up full cpu again 20:22 * Menche 's server is somewhat ill 20:22 hdastwb should I stop trying to connect? 20:28 Calinou night 20:28 Yepoleb night 20:33 VanessaE Menche: well when you find the right spot, let me know 20:48 * NekoGloopMkIII puts a kitten on VanessaE's head 20:49 * VanessaE puts the kitten in OldCoder's pile. 20:51 bas080 I don't get the Schematic type parameters for the register decorations function. How does the schematic = table work? 20:51 bas080 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L2139 20:53 bas080 schematic = { 20:53 bas080 size = {x=4, y=6, z=4}, --what is size? 20:53 bas080 data = { 20:53 bas080 {name="cobble", param1=0, param2=0}, 20:53 bas080 {name="dirt_with_grass", param1=0, param2=0}, 20:53 bas080 ... 20:53 bas080 } --what what is parm1 and param2? 20:53 Menche lol 20:55 Menche bas080: use pastebin.com or similar for that 20:55 bas080 sorry for that. i should have expected. 20:55 bas080 Thnx Menche 20:59 bas080 http://pastebin.com/wW4rrxeb 20:59 bas080 that should explain what i was wondering 21:00 * NekoGloop eats a cookei 21:00 OldCoder Hi! 21:01 NekoGloop wassup 21:13 GNADev|zRokh aye doods! 21:14 GNADev|zRokh Its me, SteveWarfare aka Ragnar :D 21:14 VanessaE GNADev? 21:14 VanessaE wtf? 21:14 GNADev|zRokh yes 21:14 GNADev|zRokh :D 21:14 Menche 4 different usernames? 21:14 GNADev|zRokh more then that! 21:15 GNADev|zRokh 6 maybe... 21:15 VanessaE pick a name damn it 21:15 GNADev|zRokh i dont remember 21:15 GNADev|zRokh :D 21:15 GNADev|zRokh Knock knock. Who there. Potato. Oooh, opens door. Is secret police. 21:15 Exio4 VanessaE: he will get bored of this in two years 21:15 Exio4 when he reads the logs and says 21:16 Exio4 HOW THE FUCK I WAS THAT IDIOT AND ANNOYING GODDAMNIT 21:16 Exio4 that will happen if he gets a brain later ^ 21:16 GNADev|zRokh if i dont have a brain how did i learn English at the age of 6? 21:16 GNADev|zRokh in Kindergarden... 21:16 * Menche learned English earlier... 21:16 GNADev|zRokh and i know why kindergarden is called what it is 21:17 GNADev|zRokh Kinder == Children in German 21:17 Exio4 OH MAN, THAT IS AMAZING 21:17 * Menche totally didn't know that 21:17 GNADev|zRokh AND im also NOT brittish/american! 21:17 VanessaE explain the GNA part. Now. 21:17 Menche wooo 21:17 GNADev|zRokh Gaming + DNA 21:17 GNADev|zRokh Dev as in Developement Team :D 21:17 VanessaE ok 21:18 GNADev|zRokh remember Artur99? 21:18 Exio4 GNADev|zRokh: how many languages do you speak? 21:18 GNADev|zRokh yeah... 21:18 Menche gaming nucleic acid? 21:18 Exio4 :> 21:18 Exio4 i speak about 6 21:18 GNADev|zRokh 4 21:18 GNADev|zRokh no, 5! 21:18 GNADev|zRokh English, Estonian, Russian, Python and Java 21:18 GNADev|zRokh .-. 21:19 Menche you can have a conversation in Java? 21:19 GNADev|zRokh yes 21:19 GNADev|zRokh .-. 21:19 Exio4 Menche: that would suck 21:19 Exio4 40 lines per message 21:19 NekoGloop I hear the Java natives are very tempermental 21:19 GNADev|zRokh false; 21:19 Exio4 then you don't speak java pretty well 21:19 GNADev|zRokh false; 21:20 Exio4 GNADev|zRokh: do you know what what imperative programming is? 21:20 NekoGloop this is how you speak java, just return false 21:20 Menche public static void main() 21:20 Exio4 inb4 wikipedia 21:20 NekoGloop s/what// 21:20 Menche void main() == BAD 21:20 Exio4 you're using google now GNADev|zRokh, no? 21:20 Exio4 NekoGloop: lol, didn't see that error 21:20 GNADev|zRokh false; 21:21 Exio4 do you have a brain? 21:21 Exio4 :> 21:21 GNADev|zRokh true; 21:21 NekoGloop Oh, hold on 21:21 NekoGloop I think his program has a bug 21:21 NekoGloop Shouldn't have returned true there. 21:21 Exio4 NekoGloop: I see 21:21 * Menche doesn't believe that "false;" by itself is a valid statement 21:21 NekoGloop It isn't :P 21:21 Menche GNADev|zRokh fails 21:22 * Kacey is going to make a "what's inside the cube?" map 21:22 * Exio4 recodes GNADev|zRokh in Haskell 21:22 GNADev|zRokh want me to make a little program in Java? 21:22 GNADev|zRokh as fast as i can? 21:22 Exio4 make a program that will show a pyramid like: 21:22 Exio4 * 21:22 Exio4 ** 21:22 GNADev|zRokh with 1 java file 21:22 Exio4 *** 21:22 Exio4 do it in 30 minutes or less 21:22 GNADev|zRokh OK! 21:22 GNADev|zRokh *challenge accepted* 21:23 * Menche goes to do it in plain C 21:23 Exio4 that is a stupid meme 21:23 NekoGloop 29 minutes. 21:23 Exio4 NekoGloop: you'll be my clock, k? 21:23 GNADev|zRokh wait...stop the countdown... 21:23 Exio4 Menche: ASM is the way to go 21:23 GNADev|zRokh do you want the source code or the .jar file? 21:23 GNADev|zRokh .-. 21:23 Exio4 source code 21:23 GNADev|zRokh ok! 21:23 NekoGloop Exio4, nah 21:23 GNADev|zRokh restart countdown! 21:23 Exio4 [18:23:40] restart countdown! 21:23 Exio4 you see the time 21:23 GNADev|zRokh yes 21:24 Exio4 for the 18:53:40 i want it, can be before though ;) 21:24 GNADev|zRokh it shall be done before 18:54 21:24 Exio4 it needs to be dynamic btw 21:24 Exio4 not just print * then ** and then *** 21:25 GNADev|zRokh can i only use native libraries or can i import my own? 21:25 VanessaE guys, what's the format() call supposed to do? 21:25 GNADev|zRokh .-. 21:25 VanessaE it's not documented in the API (or I don't see it anyways) 21:25 GNADev|zRokh format maybe? 21:25 NekoGloop it makes a pie 21:25 Exio4 GNADev|zRokh: it is two nested for(s) + print 21:25 Exio4 ... 21:26 * Menche doesn't know how you could use extra libraries for that 21:26 Exio4 & 21:26 Exio4 ^ * 21:27 GNADev|zRokh hey Exio and Menche, got AIM/Google Talk? 21:27 Menche no and no 21:27 GNADev|zRokh ok... 21:29 Exio4 nope 21:29 Exio4 k, in 3 minutes i coded it 21:29 Exio4 he left 21:29 Exio4 can i have a cookie at least 21:29 Menche lol 21:29 * Menche has almost coded it (in C) 21:29 Exio4 same 21:30 Exio4 coded it 21:30 Exio4 uploading code 21:30 VanessaE I wonder if kaeza meant to use string.format here... 21:30 Exio4 http://cadoth.net/~exio4/c/pyramid.c 21:31 VanessaE def.description = S("%s (Locked)"):format(def.description) 21:31 Exio4 Menche: ^^ 21:35 Exio4 does anyone know where is him right now? :> 21:36 VanessaE oh wait, I see what he did. 21:36 * VanessaE reads... 21:38 Exio4 Menche: what algorithm would have you used? 21:38 Menche still figuring it out... 21:38 Exio4 kk 21:38 Exio4 that is funny part about programming, 15 minutes thinking the algorithm, 15 seconds coding it 21:39 Menche yeah 21:39 kahrl some math for a software implementation of ^[inventorycube: http://paste.dy.fi/Be5 21:41 hdastwb for i = 1,c do print(string.rep('*', i)) end? 21:42 Exio4 hdastwb: a good one :P 21:42 Exio4 kahrl: it is ok if i don't understand anything there? :D 21:43 kahrl Exio4: absolutely :D 21:43 Exio4 good! 21:48 Menche Exio4: http://pastebin.com/yrfn7rrT 21:49 hdastwb hold on: function (size) for i = 1, size do print(('*'):rep(i)) end end 21:50 Exio4 Menche: mine isn't that cute but simpler :P 21:51 Menche now where's that GNA guy 21:51 Exio4 no idea 21:51 hdastwb java 21:51 * Menche wonders if he's using any external libraries 21:53 * hdastwb thinks he's still trying to figure out his object hierarchy… 21:53 Menche LOL 21:53 Exio4 hdastwb is right :> 21:53 Exio4 he is making the UML diagram for it 21:53 Menche the unit testing is taking a while 21:54 Exio4 XD 21:55 Exio4 i'm still thinking an algorithm with recursion using a single function and without for(s) though 21:55 Menche yeah, thought of that 21:55 Menche :q 21:55 Menche oops, wrong window 21:55 Menche :P 21:55 Exio4 lol 21:55 Menche guess what editor i'm using? 21:55 Exio4 emacs! 21:56 Exio4 >:D 21:56 pehjota Fellow Vim user. ^^ :) 21:56 * Menche shoots Exio4 21:56 Exio4 haha 21:57 pehjota (Or a user of some other vi implementation.) 21:57 Menche yeah, it's vim 21:59 pehjota Menche: I use BusyBox vi once in a while. ":q" is a feature of any standard vi. ;) 21:59 Menche Exio4: when I run yours, i get this: http://pastebin.com/gFG24Ee3 22:00 Exio4 it is the correct behavior of it 22:00 Menche perhaps i misunderstood what i was supposed to do 22:00 Exio4 i didn't say it should be cute! :P 22:00 Menche lol 22:00 Exio4 i wrote what it should return here 22:00 * Menche wonders what GNA guy is doing 22:01 * Menche thinks he isn't actually doing it 22:01 Exio4 [18:22:31] * 22:01 Exio4 [18:22:32] ** 22:01 Exio4 [18:22:35] *** 22:01 Exio4 he is watching a how-to-craft-diamond-blocks-on-mc video in youtube right now 22:05 Menche Exio, a simpler one that does what you said: http://pastebin.com/gaupLYr6 22:07 Exio4 hehe 22:07 Menche (i wasn't copying your for loop, i just noticed it's the same) 22:07 Exio4 there aren't much ways to do it with for loops 22:08 Exio4 the code would end being somewhat similar 22:08 Exio4 mine is different though 22:08 Menche only difference is, yours is in a function and is called several times 22:08 Exio4 nope 22:09 Exio4 check for the "for-variable" in the nested for, you count from 1 to "i" 22:09 Menche and i initialize my loop to 1 and use <= 22:09 Exio4 i count from i to 0 22:09 Menche ah, right 22:09 Exio4 it ends in the same though 22:09 Exio4 :P 22:11 hdastwb I think C++ makes things easier: void pyr(int size) {for (int i = 1; i <= size; ++i) cout << string(i, '*') << endl;} 22:11 kahrl I made a java solution! http://codepad.org/XkitNLv4 22:11 Menche wow 22:12 Menche "class ConcretePyramidVisitorFactory extends AbstractPyramidVisitorFactory" 22:12 Menche ^ lol 22:12 Exio4 hahahah 22:12 Exio4 hahahahahahaha 22:12 Menche gaaaah that was my brain ouch 22:12 PilzAdam hey! dont hate on java! 22:13 PilzAdam you can do the same in c++ 22:13 Exio4 XD 22:13 PilzAdam (the abstraction and stuff) 22:13 Exio4 man, i'm crying, i can't stop laughing 22:13 Exio4 the design pattern PilzAdam 22:14 Menche does "AbstractPyramidVisitorFactory" do anything? 22:14 hdastwb of course not; it's abstract! 22:15 Exio4 I recommend you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_Patterns_%28book%29 22:16 * NekoGloop throws cookies around 22:17 Exio4 http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-07-15#i_3200027 this, ended with http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-07-15#i_3200158 22:19 Menche and the guy who started it left 22:20 Exio4 at least is was a funny moment 22:20 Exio4 GNADev|zRokh: your work took a bit 22:21 GNADev|zRokh sorry, my pc crashed 22:21 Exio4 where is the code 22:21 GNADev|zRokh where do i upload it? 22:21 Exio4 pastebin.com 22:21 GNADev|zRokh ok 22:21 Exio4 inb4 kahrl's code 22:21 GNADev|zRokh what? 22:21 Exio4 nothin' man ;) 22:21 Menche http://codepad.org/XkitNLv4 22:22 Exio4 GNADev|zRokh: ping? 22:23 GNADev|zRokh its opening up...wait a sec please 22:23 GNADev|zRokh my pc isnt fast you know right? 22:23 GNADev|zRokh 450MB of ram and 8GB of storage... 22:24 Exio4 that is enough for codin' and sharin' 22:25 GNADev|zRokh well im running also Windows XP with SP 2 and more then 60% of my storage is full... 22:25 GNADev|zRokh so it lags... 22:25 Exio4 GNADev|zRokh: the time you use for writing that is time that could be used in uploading the code 22:25 Exio4 and what matters is not the pc as the network does ;) 22:25 GNADev|zRokh aye dood 22:26 GNADev|zRokh i download at 500kb-900kb/sec 22:26 GNADev|zRokh so no, it isnt that much 22:26 Exio4 my download is about 25 times slower than that, at least 22:27 Exio4 if you meant kbit/s, only 3~ times 22:27 Exio4 GNADev|zRokh: now, can i see your code? 22:27 GNADev|zRokh its uploading... 22:27 GNADev|zRokh getting link 22:27 GNADev|zRokh http://pastebin.com/WJAWeidT 22:27 GNADev|zRokh there you go .-. 22:28 Exio4 wow... 22:28 GNADev|zRokh what? 22:28 Exio4 GNADev|zRokh: do you have a C compiler? 22:28 GNADev|zRokh nope... 22:28 GNADev|zRokh why? 22:29 GNADev|zRokh oh, for that...wait 22:29 Menche you made it graphical? 22:29 Exio4 and it isn't dynamic or so 22:29 GNADev|zRokh yes 22:29 Exio4 it just shows pre-made strings Menche 22:29 GNADev|zRokh so?! 22:29 Menche yeah 22:29 Exio4 i said it needs to be dynamic 22:29 GNADev|zRokh i didnt see that... 22:29 PilzAdam GNADev|zRokh, ever heard of "public static void main(String[] args)"? 22:29 GNADev|zRokh i used JFrame 22:29 Exio4 [18:24:17] it needs to be dynamic btw 22:29 Exio4 [18:24:26] not just print * then ** and then *** 22:30 * Menche 's version: http://pastebin.com/gaupLYr6 22:30 GNADev|zRokh wasnt i gone by then? 22:30 Exio4 no, do i need to search logs? 22:30 GNADev|zRokh i was gone by that! 22:30 Exio4 http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-07-15#i_3200055 22:31 Menche int main(int argc, char** argv) 22:31 PilzAdam Exio4, I could do that in gasm, I think 22:31 Exio4 GNADev|zRokh: you weren't, here 22:31 GNADev|zRokh i told you! 22:31 Menche the arguments to main are only if you need to pass arguments to the program 22:31 GNADev|zRokh so it doenst count! 22:31 Exio4 PilzAdam: i could do it in... wait for it... perl! 22:31 PilzAdam lol perl 22:31 Exio4 i would make a regex for it! 22:32 Exio4 nah, outside joke, perl is a good language if you need to do heavy string parsing :P 22:32 Exio4 and is pretty easy 22:32 PilzAdam never used it 22:32 GNADev|zRokh me neither... 22:32 Menche now, make it in Lua and have it make the pyramid in minetest nodes 22:32 Exio4 you may end with this http://xkcd.com/1171/ 22:32 GNADev|zRokh PLEASE tell me more 22:32 Exio4 Menche: lol'd 22:33 * Menche may actually do that just cause 22:33 Exio4 ... or ... https://xkcd.com/208/ 22:35 Exio4 anyway GNADev|zRokh 22:35 GNADev|zRokh hey Menche 22:36 Exio4 you didn't do what i said ... 22:36 GNADev|zRokh ./file.c:7 identifier expected 22:36 GNADev|zRokh cause i didnt know 22:36 GNADev|zRokh :D 22:36 Exio4 wat 22:36 GNADev|zRokh i compiled it and it returned an error :D 22:36 Exio4 GNADev|zRokh: compile it with gcc 22:36 GNADev|zRokh im on windows... 22:36 kahrl it's C99 22:36 Exio4 msys/mingw 22:36 Exio4 ah 22:36 Exio4 use my code then 22:36 GNADev|zRokh i compiled with TCC 22:37 Exio4 http://cadoth.net/~exio4/c/pyramid.c 22:37 GNADev|zRokh Tiny C Compiler 22:37 GNADev|zRokh ok 22:37 Exio4 i know 22:37 Exio4 never used it on windows though 22:37 GNADev|zRokh k 22:37 Exio4 i normally use gcc + uclibc now (for small binaries / limited systems / etc) as gcc has more 'optimizations' :P 22:38 * Menche uses clang 22:38 kahrl thought tcc = Turbo C Compiler 22:38 Exio4 we are not that old kahrl! 22:38 * Exio4 rewrites minetest in turbo pascal 22:38 hdastwb I hope I'm not too late; here's a basic UneFunge version: 50p01p0>'*,:1g\`3j9+1_$a,01g1+:1p0g\`3j+ff_@ 22:39 Exio4 hmm 22:39 VanessaE Menche: any luck? 22:39 Exio4 is that gziped brainfuck? :> 22:39 VanessaE Exio4: probably perl ;) 22:40 Exio4 s/VanessaE.*// 22:40 GNADev|zRokh Exio, theres just one problem... 22:40 Exio4 what? 22:40 VanessaE :P 22:40 GNADev|zRokh you forgot to pause the program after it prints it all :D 22:40 Exio4 ehm, no? 22:40 Exio4 it works as excepted 22:40 GNADev|zRokh ugh, yes! 22:40 GNADev|zRokh ugh, no! 22:40 Menche you only have to do that if you start it from an IDE 22:41 hdastwb or by clicking 22:41 Menche if you start it the *real* way you don't have to pause 22:41 Exio4 ah 22:41 Exio4 i got what he meant 22:41 GNADev|zRokh yeah... 22:41 Menche hdastwb: yeah that too 22:41 GNADev|zRokh exactly! 22:41 Menche start it the *real* way 22:41 Exio4 open the code and run the binary 22:41 GNADev|zRokh define *real* 22:41 Exio4 open the code and run the binary 22:41 Menche run from a terminal 22:41 Exio4 err, cmd 22:41 GNADev|zRokh i did 22:41 Exio4 no idea why i write code 22:41 GNADev|zRokh thats how i got it to work 22:42 Exio4 GNADev|zRokh: tcc -o pyramid pyramid.c 22:42 Exio4 GNADev|zRokh: tcc -o pyramid.exe pyramid.c // sry 22:42 Menche actually *start* it from in the terminal 22:42 Exio4 .\pyramid.exe 22:42 GNADev|zRokh it output file.exe 22:42 Exio4 .\file.exe 22:42 GNADev|zRokh cause the c was file.c 22:42 GNADev|zRokh i know 22:42 GNADev|zRokh i made a bat file 22:42 GNADev|zRokh @echo off 22:42 Exio4 . 22:42 GNADev|zRokh file 22:42 GNADev|zRokh pause 22:42 GNADev|zRokh thats it... 22:42 Exio4 gj 22:42 GNADev|zRokh ikr :D 22:43 Menche you don't start text programs by clicking on them!!! 22:43 GNADev|zRokh still :D 22:43 GNADev|zRokh lets do another one 22:43 GNADev|zRokh i call dibs on Python3 22:43 GNADev|zRokh :D 22:43 GNADev|zRokh Exio4 set the game rules! 22:44 GNADev|zRokh yo! 22:44 GNADev|zRokh o.O 22:44 Exio4 what 22:44 GNADev|zRokh lets do another one 22:44 Exio4 do you want other chall now? 22:44 arsdragonfly Exio4 on windows there's no need to specify the current directory 22:45 GNADev|zRokh i know 22:45 GNADev|zRokh but i did :D 22:45 GNADev|zRokh ./file.c 22:45 Exio4 arsdragonfly: didn't know that 22:45 GNADev|zRokh now Exio4, lets do another one and you set the game rules and the objective 22:45 arsdragonfly even simply file works 22:45 GNADev|zRokh not when compiling... 22:45 GNADev|zRokh tcc file.c 22:46 GNADev|zRokh not tcc file 22:46 GNADev|zRokh >.< 22:46 GNADev|zRokh Exio4, yo, set them! 22:46 Exio4 well, i'm trying to think something that isn't very hard 22:46 GNADev|zRokh and set the time limit 22:46 GNADev|zRokh :D 22:46 Exio4 Menche: it is your turn 22:46 GNADev|zRokh true 22:46 Menche ? 22:47 GNADev|zRokh lets do another one Menche 22:47 Exio4 define something that is easy but isn't the hello world 22:47 GNADev|zRokh :D 22:47 GNADev|zRokh lets do the Good Bye World :D 22:47 GNADev|zRokh idk what that is xD 22:47 Menche VanessaE: I've been loading blocks that may have had the problem device and it hasn't crashed 22:47 VanessaE ok cool 22:47 Menche I'm not sure i have the location right 22:48 Menche I'll have to ask the player in question to be sure 22:48 ShadowNinja Count down from 100. 22:48 GNADev|zRokh FFUUUUU!! 22:48 VanessaE well, let me know. in the meantime I'll push that change to git. 22:48 hdastwb int main() {cout << "good bye world!" << endl; delete &cout; return -1;} 22:48 VanessaE (I can always revert if it doesn't work) 22:48 GNADev|zRokh oh a countdown :D 22:48 GNADev|zRokh easy@ 22:48 GNADev|zRokh ! 22:48 PilzAdam GNADev|zRokh, learn from it: http://pastebin.com/q9dag5MS 22:49 GNADev|zRokh i know how to do it 22:49 GNADev|zRokh i thought the time to do is was 100 seconds :D 22:49 VanessaE Menche: any idea what the nodes were before? 22:49 PilzAdam Exio4, my entry to the competition: http://pastebin.com/q9dag5MS 22:49 Exio4 lol.. 22:49 Exio4 unfairness 22:49 PilzAdam how? 22:50 PilzAdam it draws lots of little "*" 22:50 Exio4 haha 22:50 PilzAdam now do that in plain C pls 22:50 PilzAdam oh 22:50 PilzAdam I forgot 22:50 Menche what, that draw a triangle? 22:50 PilzAdam C doesnt have a graphics libary build in 22:50 hdastwb …because C's not bloated 22:51 Exio4 and is fast 22:51 kahrl PilzAdam: doesn't this violate the single thread rule? https://weblogs.java.net/blog/cayhorstmann/archive/2007/06/the_single_thre.html 22:51 PilzAdam maybe I should use awt, the SECOND graphics libary that is builtin in Java 22:51 PilzAdam Java 2; C 0 22:51 Exio4 C is a cute&portable ASM 22:51 Menche and neither integrate into the rest of a destkop environment 22:51 Menche *desktop 22:52 Exio4 python isn't cute 22:52 hdastwb python is also slower than lua and javascript combined 22:52 Menche interpreted < compiled 22:52 Exio4 racket is cut 22:52 Exio4 +e 22:53 kahrl none of these programming languages are as cute as lolcode 22:53 Exio4 CAN I HAS STDIO? 22:54 PilzAdam kahrl, no, I do all in the ctor of Main 22:54 GNADev|zRokh done... 22:54 GNADev|zRokh uploading 22:54 GNADev|zRokh Exio4: its with an X :D 22:55 Exio4 wat 22:55 Exio4 you're uploading what 22:55 GNADev|zRokh http://pastebin.com/RVB9CDeB 22:55 GNADev|zRokh the countdown :D 22:56 Exio4 lemme write it 22:56 GNADev|zRokh so what do you think? 22:56 PilzAdam Exio4, in GNU ASM pls 22:57 GNADev|zRokh PilzAdam try out the timer that i made for the mini-contest :D 22:57 GNADev|zRokh http://pastebin.com/RVB9CDeB 22:58 Menche simple: http://pastebin.com/TDDScPsm 22:58 NekoGloopMkII wassup 22:58 Exio4 http://cadoth.net/~exio4/c/countdown.c 22:58 GNADev|zRokh can i choose the competition this time? 22:58 Exio4 Menche: :< 22:58 Exio4 GNADev|zRokh: doit 22:58 hdastwb if event.type == 'interrupt' then digiline_send('lcd', event.iid); interrupt(1, event.iid - 1) else interrupt(1, 100) end 22:59 hdastwb it doesn't stop, though. . . 22:59 Exio4 lol 22:59 DanDuncombe What is the current conversation about? 23:00 VanessaE DanDuncombe: don't ask 23:00 VanessaE it's all over the map :) 23:00 Exio4 GNADev|zRokh: ? 23:00 GNADev|zRokh Exio4, Menche, your countdowns are [INVALID] 23:01 Exio4 ? 23:01 Menche ? 23:01 GNADev|zRokh in mine 1 = 1 second :D 23:01 GNADev|zRokh yours just speed through :D 23:01 hdastwb if event.type == 'interrupt' then digiline_send('lcd', event.iid); event.iid > 0 and interrupt(1, event.iid - 1) else interrupt(1, 100) end 23:01 Exio4 C is speed man! 23:01 GNADev|zRokh and Java is Crack :D 23:01 hdastwb that ought to work; still no testing, though 23:01 Menche C is faster than time 23:01 DanDuncombe Why is java so slow? 23:01 GNADev|zRokh but its still down in time 23:02 Exio4 GNADev|zRokh: nobody said we should add sleeps to that 23:02 GNADev|zRokh i know... 23:02 Exio4 i would make unix call though ;) 23:02 Menche but hey, add a system(sleep 1) and it'll be 1 second 23:02 GNADev|zRokh .-. 23:02 Menche of course, that may not work on windoze 23:02 Exio4 Menche: man 3 sleep :P 23:02 GNADev|zRokh :D 23:02 DanDuncombe :) 23:02 Exio4 CONFORMING TO 23:02 Exio4 POSIX.1-2001. 23:02 GNADev|zRokh hey its my turn to pick the challenge 23:02 GNADev|zRokh hmm... 23:03 Menche Exio4, ? 23:03 DanDuncombe what'll it be? 23:03 GNADev|zRokh thinking... 23:03 Exio4 you can actually use "sleep(1)" in C 23:03 Exio4 posix-C 23:03 kahrl use boost::this_thread::sleep 23:03 PilzAdam john_minetest, EH, MACARENA 23:03 Exio4 lmao 23:03 GNADev|zRokh :D 23:03 GNADev|zRokh ugh... 23:03 GNADev|zRokh how about a wget copy :D 23:03 Exio4 wget copy? 23:03 hdastwb karhrl: or std::this_thread if you're compiler isn't ancient 23:04 GNADev|zRokh a program that asks for a website and then downloads it :D 23:04 hdastwb well, this_thread::sleep_for 23:04 Menche way to misspell his name 23:04 Exio4 GNADev|zRokh: can i use curl? 23:04 GNADev|zRokh i call dibs on python3 :D 23:04 GNADev|zRokh sure, why not 23:04 Exio4 but how would you compile it though 23:04 GNADev|zRokh it just needs to be C based 23:04 GNADev|zRokh idk... 23:04 GNADev|zRokh wait no... 23:04 GNADev|zRokh retake... 23:05 GNADev|zRokh ugh, just a wget clone 23:05 GNADev|zRokh Exio4: what lang? 23:05 GNADev|zRokh will you use*** 23:06 Exio4 thinking about SML, checking its api 23:06 DanDuncombe When was Minetest first made? 23:06 GNADev|zRokh well bye 23:06 GNADev|zRokh g2g 23:06 GNADev|zRokh moms home 23:06 Exio4 lol'd 23:06 Exio4 k 23:06 GNADev|zRokh party over doods, bye! 23:06 DanDuncombe by! 23:06 DanDuncombe I mean bye! 23:06 GNADev|zRokh ill be gone for 3 weeks so bye for a long time 23:06 arsdragonfly see u 23:06 DanDuncombe seeu 23:06 Exio4 maybe racket is the way to go 23:06 GNADev|zRokh same here bro! 23:06 DanDuncombe mm 23:06 GNADev|zRokh much luv doods! 23:06 hdastwb bye 23:06 * Exio4 rewrites GNADev|zRokh in racket 23:06 GNADev|zRokh bye 23:07 DanDuncombe g'bye! 23:07 Exio4 GNADev|zRokh: connect as soon you can man 23:07 GNADev|zRokh sure will biggums :D 23:07 GNADev|zRokh bye 23:07 DanDuncombe Nooo! he hath gonneth! 23:08 Menche the initial commit to celeron's bitbucket mercurial repository was 2010-11-26 23:08 DanDuncombe So... around 2 years ago? 23:08 PilzAdam Exio4, woffle? 23:08 PilzAdam john_minetest, ^ ? 23:08 arsdragonfly so how many months later than minecraft? 23:08 Menche it was around before though 23:09 Menche well, i think 23:10 DanDuncombe Says on Wikipedia: 'It was publicly released for the PC on May 17, 2009' (Minecraft) 23:11 DanDuncombe So Minetest is around 1 year older than Minecraft I think 23:11 DanDuncombe I mean younger 23:11 Menche minetest had jungles before minecraft did 23:12 Menche mesecons had lightstone before redstone got it's alternative 23:12 PilzAdam minetest had per node textures before Minecraft did 23:12 Exio4 minetest got a lua api before minecr.. err, nvm 23:12 PilzAdam (as in seperated, not one atlas) 23:13 Menche mojang has been promising a mod api for a while 23:13 DanDuncombe Sorry to say this but Minecraft jungles are cooler than in Minetest 23:13 Exio4 since 1.3 23:13 PilzAdam theres a repo on github 23:13 PilzAdam /kick DanDuncombe 23:13 Exio4 did you see MT's dungeons though? ;) 23:13 DanDuncombe I'm just sayin 23:13 DanDuncombe Mt's dungeons are bigger 23:13 DanDuncombe Mc's jungles are cooler 23:14 PilzAdam MT has more fail mobs than MC 23:14 Exio4 and are really dungeons 23:14 Menche MT's dungeons are way more epic than MC's wimpy single rooms 23:14 Exio4 lol'd at that PilzAdam 23:14 Exio4 Menche: yeah 23:14 DanDuncombe Mc has great auto spawning structures (villages etc) 23:14 Menche the controls in minetest have always felt more responsive to me 23:14 DanDuncombe But Mt has Structures Mod 23:14 Exio4 that stuff is "added with mods" 23:14 hdastwb there was one version of mobf with houses… 23:14 Menche i think the minecraft player doesn't jump as high or is slower or something 23:15 DanDuncombe Menche You know you can configure sensitivity in Mc... 23:15 Menche minecraft's flying sucks 23:15 PilzAdam ^ 23:15 Exio4 he doesn't mean that DanDuncombe 23:15 Exio4 and that too 23:15 DanDuncombe I think one version of Mobf had 23:15 Exio4 MT's movement system is pretty nice for me :P 23:15 DanDuncombe auto spawning trader huts 23:16 Exio4 i actually use e for running fast when playing MC 23:16 Menche having to double-tap jump is annoying, you don't have freemove, and the horrible physics makes controlling flying difficult, especially while going fast 23:16 Exio4 double-tap is configurable in MC 23:16 Exio4 errr 23:16 PilzAdam MT has realistic physics, while MC has something strange 23:16 Exio4 MT 23:16 DanDuncombe Mobs are better in Mc though simply because they work well in java I guess 23:16 * PilzAdam looks at john_minetest 23:16 * PilzAdam looks at john_cephalopoda 23:17 Naked realistic physics? 23:17 Menche a game like this doesn't need realistic physics 23:17 PilzAdam Naked, i.e. gravity 23:17 Naked ohh that 23:17 DanDuncombe Or realisti only in survival at least 23:17 Menche inertia is especially annoying 23:17 DanDuncombe really? 23:17 DanDuncombe How? 23:17 Naked I was thinking about needed supports so what you build doesnt fall on your head 23:17 Exio4 only two things aren't very "nice for me" in MT, but in MC, is the client-side prediction of small things and "chunk radius-stuff" of MT 23:18 Menche as far as minetest physics go, all i care about is that my feet stay on the ground when i'm not flying 23:18 DanDuncombe And that you don't walk through solid walls 23:18 Exio4 if MT got a radius-based chunk loading plus client-side prediction for doors, buckets, and that stuff in-game 23:18 Exio4 i would stop playing minecraft right now 23:18 Exio4 DanDuncombe: that is noclip and can be enabled/disabled 23:18 PilzAdam Exio4, you play MC? 23:18 Exio4 PilzAdam: yeah 23:19 PilzAdam how dare you! :-p 23:19 Exio4 that is how i knew MT 23:19 DanDuncombe I mean just running around and glitching 23:19 DanDuncombe I play Mc and Mt 23:19 Exio4 DanDuncombe: hmm? 23:19 Exio4 other thing i love about MT is ... 23:19 Menche I have both, but nowadays I play mostly MT 23:19 Exio4 opensource ness! 23:19 Menche haven't seriously played MC for quite a while 23:19 Exio4 i only play MC for doing dummy things now 23:20 DanDuncombe and I hate close-minded people who can't cope with the fact that Mc has better features than Mt and vice versa 23:20 Exio4 the last thing i did was getting 2500 or 3500 hardened clay and replacing a whole wool island (wool i placed) with hardened clay, magenta hardened clay 23:20 DanDuncombe I play Mt because Mc can't be run on my computer 23:20 DanDuncombe I assume you are using Mc version 1.6? 23:20 Exio4 yes 23:20 Exio4 it sucks though 23:20 DanDuncombe Horses are great 23:21 Naked I like both games and detest stuff on both games 23:21 Exio4 ^ 23:21 Exio4 DanDuncombe: they remove client-side prediction 23:21 Exio4 /not implement it 23:21 Exio4 this is like they are trying to emulate quake3 23:21 Naked I mean why the hell did MT need to copy the shit health system of Minecraft?? 23:21 DanDuncombe I like leads (hanging up iron golems) 23:21 Exio4 Naked: what system do you suggest? 23:21 PilzAdam Naked, no hunger seen in MT yet... 23:21 NekoGloopMkII Yeah, why not have a health bar 23:22 Naked normal 100 health bar that you find in other games since they where invented 23:22 Exio4 ah 23:22 Naked not this crap hearts that will later ruin combat 23:22 Exio4 that is really nice and would be nice to make 23:22 Menche yeah, i would prefer a bar with 100 health 23:22 DanDuncombe We need some kind of armour too in default. 23:22 DanDuncombe Although diamond armour is stupid 23:23 DanDuncombe And in real life would shatter 23:23 DanDuncombe And be incredibly expensive 23:23 hdastwb really? 23:23 hdastwb diamond is one of the strongest substances known to man 23:23 DanDuncombe Diamonds I think are hard but not strong 23:23 Menche tools made of diamond are stupid too 23:23 PilzAdam you find diamonds which are that big in the first place 23:23 Menche diamonds will burn, i believe 23:24 Menche john_minetest, in minetest they are made out of diamond 23:24 DanDuncombe If you put them in a really hot place they can vapourise 23:24 PilzAdam if you put it in a really hot place then * turns into plasma 23:24 DanDuncombe Also in real life they are used like sandpaper 23:24 PilzAdam where * is any matter 23:24 DanDuncombe Sand is really strong 23:25 Menche aren't the current diamond tools just made completely of diamond? or did something change when i wasn't looking? 23:25 DanDuncombe Also iron lumps+cooking=steel is stupid 23:25 DanDuncombe Sticks are used for diamond tools in Mt too 23:26 PilzAdam Menche, there is no real definition if the diamonds are pure C or if its encrusted stone 23:26 Menche well yeah, the handle 23:26 Menche lol. that still doesn't make sense. 23:26 * Exio4 throws a rock at Menche's head 23:27 hdastwb ^ default:stone? 23:27 PilzAdam base:stone 23:27 Exio4 default:lava_source ftfy :> 23:27 PilzAdam 23:27 DanDuncombe Just for fun we could add: coal tools, quartz tools, glass tools, iron_lump tools, copper tools, wool tools, furnace tools, wheat tools... 23:27 Exio4 make a mod called "funtools" 23:27 Menche glass tools: break on first use and don't actually do anything 23:27 Exio4 with those recipes 23:27 PilzAdam btw, for everyone who thinks that survival in mt_game is too boring: https://github.com/PilzAdam/pilztest 23:28 Menche wheat tools: last for a while but don't actually do anything 23:28 hdastwb wheat tools are edible in a pinch 23:28 DanDuncombe PilzAdam: when will the redstone in your game be finished? 23:28 Exio4 lol 23:28 PilzAdam DanDuncombe, in what game? 23:28 Exio4 DanDuncombe: mesecons 23:28 DanDuncombe No... 23:28 Menche furnace tools: ...i'm not sure what that would look like 23:28 Exio4 lol 23:28 PilzAdam DanDuncombe, you mean MiniTest? 23:28 NekoGloopMkII smelt automaticall 23:28 Exio4 ah 23:28 DanDuncombe Indeed 23:28 DanDuncombe Minitest ftw 23:29 PilzAdam DanDuncombe, define "finished" 23:29 DanDuncombe When all parts work fully 23:29 PilzAdam everything works currently 23:29 DanDuncombe Like Mc Maybe? 23:29 DanDuncombe The version I last tried some stuff still didn't do anything. 23:29 PilzAdam I need to add pistons and other stuff 23:29 DanDuncombe Yep. 23:30 DanDuncombe When they are added then it will be amazing. 23:30 DanDuncombe Can you add picturs to a post on this chat? 23:30 NekoGloopMkII No. 23:30 DanDuncombe Oh well... 23:30 Exio4 DanDuncombe: you can upload images to some site and post the link 23:30 DanDuncombe Guess it prevents spamming. 23:30 Exio4 like imgur 23:31 DanDuncombe thnx 23:31 Menche and how would a text irc client display images? 23:32 DanDuncombe Just seen that paramat has released hiss volcano mod on the foprum 23:33 NekoGloopMkII Yes, we get it, paramat is a fucking lua god 23:33 Menche installing paramat's mods -> generating a single block takes 30 mins 23:33 NekoGloopMkII Well that's just lua mapgen :P 23:33 DanDuncombe To get a volcano to form 23:33 DanDuncombe you need to 23:34 DanDuncombe go to a lava cave 23:34 DanDuncombe at a maximum depth 23:34 Menche please post 23:34 DanDuncombe of no more than 23:34 Menche your entire message 23:34 Menche on one line 23:34 DanDuncombe okay 23:35 DanDuncombe Go to a max depth of no more than y = -256 and find a lava cave. 23:35 DanDuncombe If there is an ore above it I think a lava conduit will form that rises towards the surface. 23:35 DanDuncombe This will then form a volcano. 23:38 DanDuncombe Does anyone have any ideas for more buildings to go in my Instant Buildings mod? 23:39 DanDuncombe I already have: Small hut Large hut Small house Small farm Large farm Short tower Small warehouse Large house Modern house Tall tower Factory Large warehouse Mansion 23:39 PilzAdam ..., small Dan, large dan, ... 23:40 VanessaE indeed 23:40 * VanessaE throws some commas at DanDuncombe 23:40 DanDuncombe soz... 23:40 DanDuncombe How do you 'throw' stuff at people on here? 23:40 VanessaE like this: 23:41 * VanessaE throws a mese block at DanDuncombe 23:41 VanessaE :) 23:41 * MinetestBot throws /me at DanDuncombe 23:41 DanDuncombe * DanDuncombe throws a pineapple at VannessaE 23:41 DanDuncombe That didn't work 23:41 Menche DanDuncombe: /me 23:42 * DanDuncombe throws tuuf at people 23:42 VanessaE he 23:42 VanessaE heh 23:42 DanDuncombe meh 23:42 PilzAdam sry, but IRC noobs are too funny 23:42 DanDuncombe Oh well 23:42 * Menche gets hit by tuuf 23:42 VanessaE PilzAdam: you were an irc noob once yourself as we all were. 23:42 Exio4 tufi tufi 23:42 DanDuncombe soz... lol 23:42 PilzAdam VanessaE, yay! I was funny at least once! 23:43 VanessaE heh 23:43 VanessaE now you're just a smartass :P 23:43 * PilzAdam raises funny counter to 2 23:43 PilzAdam btw, 23:43 PilzAdam !deop VanessaE 23:43 VanessaE didn't even notice I had it. 23:44 DanDuncombe how do you do it? 23:44 * DanDuncombe throws stuff doesn't work 23:44 DanDuncombe oh... oops 23:45 khonkhortisan /msg chanserv op #minetest 23:45 * DanDuncombe eats a tuuf 23:46 DanDuncombe MMMM! 23:46 PilzAdam DanDuncombe, protip: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC 23:46 DanDuncombe thanks 23:48 * DanDuncombe loves the me command 23:49 DanDuncombe Who is loggingbot_ ? 23:49 marktraceur DanDuncombe: A bot. Who logs. 23:49 VanessaE a...um...logging bot? :) 23:49 NekoGloopMkII A bot who chops trees 23:50 kahrl and he's okay 23:51 DanDuncombe lol 23:51 DanDuncombe So is it/him/her human? 23:52 marktraceur DanDuncombe: In some sense - a human controls it, but it's pretty much automated. 23:52 DanDuncombe When will 0.4.8 Minetest stable be released? 23:52 VanessaE soon. 23:53 DanDuncombe Good. 23:53 DanDuncombe Does worldedit save facedir? I'm assuming it does 23:54 VanessaE yes, it does 23:54 DanDuncombe Good. 23:55 DanDuncombe Are there roof corners in your homedecor mod? 23:56 VanessaE er...um 23:56 VanessaE yes, there are...... 23:57 VanessaE jeez, let me answer the question for crying out loud 23:57 VanessaE yes, there are corners. 23:57 VanessaE but you have to craft and place them explicitly. 23:57 * NekoGloopMkII puts a kitten on DanDuncombe's head 23:57 DanDuncombe soz... didn't mean to disconnect. 23:57 * DanDuncombe eats kitten 23:57 NekoGloopMkII BEGONE, HEATHEN! 23:58 * DanDuncombe charges at Taoki while he is gone 23:58 NekoGloopMkII http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPjW_9KZo8M ~ 23:59 * DanDuncombe mistakes NekoGloopMkII for a kitten and eats him/her/other as well 23:59 NekoGloopMkII other.