IRC log for #minetest, 2013-07-16

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Time	Nick	Message
00:00	* DanDuncombe	is obvious he hopes (gives it away)
00:01	NekoGloopMkII	You're a girl, right?
00:01	DanDuncombe	I am of course male
00:01	NekoGloopMkII	I'm Proffesor Oak.
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00:02	Exio4	;-;
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00:02	NekoGloopMkII	Exio4, ?
00:03	Exio4	died in WG
00:03	Menche	hey, signs placed on the ground used to angle towards the place?!?!?
00:03	Menche	*placer
00:03	* DanDuncombe	wallops Exio4 with a big slippery eel
00:03	Menche	and the don't anymore?
00:04	* NekoGloopMkII	slaps Dan with a kitten
00:04	* DanDuncombe	eats that kitten too
00:04	PilzAdam	prepare for MinetestBot spam
00:04	DanDuncombe	Ah well...
00:04	MinetestBot	GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Randomly choose singleplayer port ab145c8827 2013-07-15T17:02:56-07:00 http://git.io/S4uVuQ
00:04	MinetestBot	GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Fix lighting bug caused by disappearing lava ecb024af64 2013-07-15T16:51:04-07:00 http://git.io/1IEssg
00:04	MinetestBot	GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Remove support for common mods 4e5a45952a 2013-07-15T16:46:59-07:00 http://git.io/JHGvwA
00:05	DanDuncombe	Can I post a huge useles bit of text?
00:05	marktraceur	DanDuncombe: Here? No.
00:06	DanDuncombe	:0 But it would be fun
00:06	marktraceur	Yes, but you'd be kickbanned, which would be less fun for you.
00:06	DanDuncombe	I know...
00:06	DanDuncombe	I won't now.
00:06	marktraceur	I mean, hilarious amounts of fun for the rest of us.
00:06	marktraceur	Like watching a trainwreck
00:06	DanDuncombe	Is it an ip ban?
00:07	DanDuncombe	or just username?
00:07	Menche	how come we used to have signs that angled towards the placer but we don't now?
00:07	Exio4	what
00:08	Menche	when you place a sign on the ground, it lays flat on the ground
00:08	Menche	they used to be upright and angled toward the player who placed them
00:08	Exio4	does it?
00:08	VanessaE	Menche: that requires a mod
00:08	DanDuncombe	Is it an ip ban or username?...
00:08	VanessaE	either thexyz's or pilzadam's signs mod, or homedecor
00:08	DanDuncombe	on this IRC
00:09	Exio4	depends of the mask
00:09	VanessaE	DanDuncombe: we can do either or both here.
00:09	Exio4	nick!*@* is per-nick
00:09	Exio4	*!*@1.2.3.4 is per-host/ip
00:09	Exio4	and so on
00:09	Exio4	:>
00:09	* Menche	is using the very eariest minetest commit from celeron55's bitbucket repo
00:09	Menche	*earliest
00:09	VanessaE	Menche: ohhh....er...ask c55 :P
00:09	DanDuncombe	Is that the one with the hotbar at the side instead of the bottom?
00:09	Menche	kinda like the inventory from that version too
00:10	Exio4	ah
00:10	Menche	yeah
00:10	Exio4	i c
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00:11	Menche	was there chat in that version?
00:12	Menche	lol, solid water
00:12	DanDuncombe	( •_•)     ( •_•)>⌐■-â–      (⌐■_â– )
00:13	DanDuncombe	Peow! ︻デ═一
00:13	marktraceur	Helpful
00:13	NekoGloopMkIII	Interesting use of japanese characters. I like it.
00:13	Uberi	you sure have some funny glasses: http://i.imgur.com/n27JGFu.png
00:13	Ego	ᕦΩ(ò_óˇ)Ωᕤ I don't need firepower when I'm rockin' these guns!
00:13	Ego	D'oh, Uberi, UTF fail! =P
00:14	Ego	I found out recently, some emoji makes Irssi beep.
00:14	NekoGloopMkIII	Same here with that symbol
00:14	Uberi	something something codepage 0
00:14	* Menche	is making a house out of solid water
00:14	NekoGloopMkIII	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PHpCywCcIA
00:15	Ego	This one:
00:15	DanDuncombe	Solid water... Realism to the max!
00:15	VanessaE	Menche: watch where you put it, proller is set to make ice melt if the temperature in the area is too high :)
00:16	Menche	not in the minetest version i'm using :D
00:16	NekoGloopMkIII	he's still playing the centuries-old version
00:16	Uberi	oh man I cannot wait for weather to make it in
00:16	VanessaE	heh
00:16	Menche	the water is solid
00:16	NekoGloopMkIII	Ye ole mineteste
00:16	VanessaE	Uberi: I hope it looks as good as what I've seen for MC
00:16	Uberi	I believe they call that "ice" in certain parts
00:16	VanessaE	(some videos that really looked NICE)
00:16	Uberi	VanessaE: particlespawners! it's gonna be great
00:16	Exio4	link
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00:16	DanDuncombe	Mah Minetest House:   __̴ı̴̴̡̡̡ Ì¡ÍŒlÌ¡Ì¡Ì¡ Ì¡ÍŒlÌ¡*Ì¡Ì¡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ Ì¡Ì¡Í¡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|Ì¡Ì¡Ì¡ Ì¡ ̴̡ı̴̡̡ Ì¡ÍŒlÌ¡Ì¡Ì¡Ì¡.___
00:16	NekoGloopMkIII	Those must have be external videos
00:16	Uberi	O_o
00:17	NekoGloopMkIII	minecraft rain and thunder is shitty.
00:17	Uberi	that is amazing DanDuncombe
00:17	VanessaE	Uberi: as long as they are collision-aware, so you don't get rain inside a building :P
00:17	Exio4	NekoGloopMkIII: exactly
00:17	NekoGloopMkIII	And annoying as hell
00:17	Uberi	VanessaE: oh snap I didn't think of that, that might be an issue
00:17	Exio4	annoying? only? ;)
00:17	Uberi	MC just checks all blocks until the height limit
00:17	Uberi	but MT has no (reasonable) height limit
00:18	NekoGloopMkIII	For us rain should only be below the clouds
00:18	VanessaE	NekoGloopMkIII: the clouds need to be raise WAY up by default first, to at least +500
00:18	NekoGloopMkIII	indeed.
00:19	Uberi	isn't there a cloud_height setting or something?
00:19	VanessaE	Uberi: yes
00:19	NekoGloopMkIII	hence; "by default"
00:19	DanDuncombe	Just found this one:     DON'T MESS WITH ME BRO!  Ì¿' Ì¿'\̵͇̿̿\з=( Í¡ °_̯͡° )=ε/̵͇̿̿/'Ì¿'Ì¿ Ì¿
00:19	VanessaE	cloud_height = 120
00:20	Uberi	oh man this is amazing __̴ı̴̴̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡̡.___ __̴ı̴̴̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡̡.___ __̴ı̴̴̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡
00:20	Exio4	what the fuck is that
00:20	NekoGloopMkIII	A line of shit
00:21	Uberi	houses are in the eye of the beholder
00:21	NekoGloopMkIII	Houses are generally taller than a single block.
00:22	DanDuncombe	Text arts look better if you copy n paste them into word
00:22	Menche	if you post more than a single line at once MinetestBot will kill you
00:22	NekoGloopMkIII	It looks like someone blew your house down.
00:22	Menche	word? not if it needs a monospaced font to look right
00:23	Uberi	bet it was this guy: ̿' ̿'\̵͇̿̿\з=( ͡ °_̯͡° )=ε/̵͇̿̿/'̿'̿ ̿
00:23	NekoGloopMkIII	word can use lucidia console.
00:23	Exio4	;-;
00:23	DanDuncombe	( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
00:23	Exio4	i hate when i change a variable name in a .h and have to recompile the whole MT
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00:25	DanDuncombe	Rage t(ಠ益ಠt)
00:26	Exio4	fucking gimp
00:26	Exio4	i don't get used to the new "Export" "Save as"
00:26	DanDuncombe	Õ™Õš ̉՚ ̉՚Հ̉ۜ՚Հ̉ۜ՚(̉՚ ̉՚ ̵̿`̰̿´̵̿ Ì¿)Ì¿ Ì¿ Ì¿ Ì¿ Ì¿ Ì¿ Ì¿ ̳̿̿ ̳̳̿̿ ̳̿ ̳ ͇ ͇ ͇ ̳ ̳ ̜˛ۣۣ̜ﮧ̜ۣﮧ̜ۣ‚̥◞(Û•Ì€_̖́٥ ) Ì·Õ™Õš ̉ۜ՚ ̉՚ۜ ̉՚ ̉՚ Ì¿ Ì¿ Ì¿ Ì¿ Ì¿ Ì¿ Ì¿ Ì¿ Ì¿  Ninja Swordfight
00:28	marktraceur	Children: Stop spamming the channel with unicode nonsense.
00:30	DanDuncombe	ツ kk
00:33	NekoGloopMkIII	"tsu kk" what?
00:35	DanDuncombe	๏̯̃๏  I must go now
00:35	Exio4	ew
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01:16	PilzAdam	bye
01:17	Ego	Bye!
01:17	NekoGloopMkIII	wazzup
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02:23	NekoGloopMkII	Will you please stop that.
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02:31	ShadowNinja	Hmmm, any tips for lowering server CPU usage? VanessaE?
02:32	YoungDerp	Kacey is being used... but when i ping it... huh
02:32	YoungDerp	* Kacey :No such nick/channel
02:32	YoungDerp	* Kacey :Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable
02:32	Menche	try /msg NickServ regain Kacey
02:33	VanessaE	ShadowNinja: mostly avoid mods that hook into the mapgen
02:33	VanessaE	that's the worst stuff I've seen anyway
02:33	VanessaE	(don't run moretrees :P )
02:33	Menche	you using celeron's performance settings?
02:34	ShadowNinja	Hmmm, I have constant 30-60% usage. With nobody on and only a few mods...
02:34	Kacey	huh that was strange...
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02:45	ShadowNinja	Hmmm, seems that helped a little. But the server needs some optimization...
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02:51	NekoGloop	For the love of whatever is holy! Stop D/C'ing me, freenode!
02:52	Menche	?
02:53	NekoGloop	The only thing I'm having connection issues with is freenode :P
02:54	Exio4	VanessaE: it has amazing trees though, is that moretrees magic-only? :P
02:54	VanessaE	that's moretrees with plants_lib using the engine to do the heavy lifting
02:56	Exio4	those trees look really nice
02:56	VanessaE	Exio4: blame RealBadAngel...  he wrote most of the models :)
02:56	Naked	blame? more like pray for him
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02:56	VanessaE	hehe
02:57	Naked	you guys have done amazing job on this
02:57	Yrol_Denjeah	Greetings :o)
02:57	Naked	I really like having the trees be bigger than the character
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02:57	Exio4	they look ... just nice
02:58	RealBadAngel	thx :)
03:00	Naked	the will look better with hmm masterpiece worldgen
03:01	VanessaE	Exio4: and they're functional too - they can be used for anything that calls for group:wood, as fuel, and the cones et.al can be cooked for food
03:01	Exio4	i'll buy a new gpu just for being able to see a "forest" of moretrees!
03:02	Exio4	what is alatro? o.O
03:02	VanessaE	ask NekoGloop  :)
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03:03	NekoGloop	Alatro makes tools and cool looking glass (in latest version)
03:03	Exio4	as you can see, i don't play MT much ;P
03:04	NekoGloop	Surround an alatro ingot with crystal glass
03:04	NekoGloop	which is made from two glass and two desert stone. Checkerboard pattern on that.
03:05	Naked	I still wish we have colored lightning
03:10	Exio4	where is the fire in the creative inv? :P
03:13	Yrol_Denjeah	Is there a mod for working doors?
03:13	Exio4	doors in default?
03:13	Exio4	default game
03:13	Yrol_Denjeah	They open and close on punch  or so?
03:13	VanessaE	Yrol_Denjeah: you did install minetest_game right?
03:14	YoungDerp	right click
03:14	VanessaE	(they use right-click)
03:14	Yrol_Denjeah	oh, okies
03:14	Kacey	GAH!
03:16	Yrol_Denjeah	The crafting guide in technics_game... can -that- part be downloaded somewhere separately?
03:17	Yrol_Denjeah	VanessaE, sorry, yes i use minetest_game
03:17	Exio4	i'm going to sleep, good night!
03:17	VanessaE	Yrol_Denjeah: ok.  just checking
03:18	Exio4	VanessaE: moretrees is lovely, btw
03:18	Yrol_Denjeah	bye Exio4
03:18	Exio4	need to say that ;P
03:20	LazyJ	Yrol_Denjeah, Download and extract the Technic game away from your Minetest folder. Then copy the "Unified Inventory" folder into your Mintest's /mods folder.
03:20	Yrol_Denjeah	LazyJ, ah, so thats what its called
03:21	LazyJ	Start Minetest, create a new world (or select and existing one), click on the Configure button, and enable the Unified Inventory mod.
03:21	Yrol_Denjeah	°nods°
03:21	hmmmm	we should switch from SQLite to SQLrillex
03:21	VanessaE	er..
03:21	hmmmm	when we run it, it drops all the databases
03:21	VanessaE	heh
03:22	LazyJ	If the Configure menu is still broke you will have to manually edit the world.mt file and add "load_mod_unified_inventory = true" (without double quotes)
03:23	Yrol_Denjeah	LazyJ, it works quite fine actually
03:24	LazyJ	Caution, some mod's recipe's won't display in the craft guide or won't display correctly.
03:25	LazyJ	It is a problem with how the various mod author's wrote the recipe code.
03:25	Yrol_Denjeah	hm, is there some kind of switch one can put into ones mod, so it wont be displayed?
03:25	LazyJ	I'm working on a patch mod at the moment.
03:25	Yrol_Denjeah	you know, for -secret- recipes or so
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03:26	LazyJ	There is a line to add to the individual item's code that will tell Unified Inventory to ignore that particular item.
03:26	Yrol_Denjeah	ah
03:26	LazyJ	Checking for it in my notes....
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03:26	Yrol_Denjeah	oh, dont bother, i just was curious :o)
03:27	LazyJ	"groups = {not_in_creative_inventory = 1},"
03:31	Naked	us there a standard now for node coding?
03:32	Naked	is not us
03:33	NekoGloop	Naked, you mean like the creative inventory thing?
03:33	Yrol_Denjeah	Hm, this is weird, i started a new world with some mods, do nothing and get millions of lines like "ACTION[EmergeThread0]:  digs default:desert_sand at (66,2,14)" in the debug log. Any clues?
03:34	LazyJ	Are you using any of paramat's mods (chasm, canyon, fissures?
03:34	Yrol_Denjeah	oh, i think i know what the problem is
03:34	Naked	well like a regular safe non inventing and experimenting of making them so any other mods will not have conflicts
03:34	Yrol_Denjeah	exactly!
03:34	Yrol_Denjeah	i have canyon and the chasm mod running
03:35	LazyJ	Ah, ha!  Bingo. ;)
03:35	Yrol_Denjeah	so those mods change the map after the creation of the map and its not actually an error
03:36	NekoGloop	Naked, the wood and stone groups exist.
03:36	NekoGloop	as well as sand
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04:22	Yrol_Denjeah	How can i setup the keyleft of the 1 ( the ^-key) as console key?
04:23	Yrol_Denjeah	"keyman_console = KEY_^" doesnt work
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05:15	Kacey	how many "bits" do i end up with if i add 2 2-bit numbers
05:15	VanessaE	3.
05:16	Kacey	and then two 3 bit numbers?
05:17	Yrol_Denjeah	Hm, i am getting the feeling i have to ask complicated questions to get some answers °grins°
05:34	VanessaE	Kacey: 5 bits.
05:35	VanessaE	er 4.
05:35	VanessaE	G*d I can't type today
05:35	VanessaE	any two X bit numbers has an X+1 bit result.
05:35	VanessaE	(when adding them)
05:36	Kacey	so 111 + 111 = 1111?
05:36	VanessaE	yup
05:36	VanessaE	111 = 7 (dec).  7+7 = 14.  14 (dec) = 1110.
05:37	Kacey	111 = 8...
05:37	VanessaE	7.
05:37	VanessaE	1000 = 8.
05:37	Kacey	ooh yeah... silly me 0 is an output too...
05:37	* Kacey	is doing redstone stuffz
05:37	VanessaE	redstone?  mmmh
05:39	Naked	we could end up with colored circuits
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05:45	Yrol_Denjeah	Do i understand that correctly? "Vanessa's Photorealistic "HDX" texture packs" is 813 MB big?
05:45	VanessaE	sounds about right.
05:45	Yrol_Denjeah	( the 512 px cersion )
05:45	VanessaE	I don't fuck around when it comes to image quality :P
05:46	VanessaE	(though I use the 256px size, myself.  my vid card can't handle the 512px size too well)
05:49	Yrol_Denjeah	°nods°
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06:13	GNADev|zRokh	hi
06:14	Yrol_Denjeah	GNADev|zRokh hello
06:15	GNADev|zRokh	yo wheres c55?
06:16	Yrol_Denjeah	dunno, i think ChanServ is his secretary
06:16	GNADev|zRokh	nah.... chan is a bot
06:16	VanessaE	c55 doesn't hang out in here.
06:16	GNADev|zRokh	why noy
06:16	VanessaE	ChanServ is not a bot, it's a service
06:17	VanessaE	GNADev|zRokh: don't ask.
06:17	GNADev|zRokh	is he in dev?
06:18	VanessaE	he hangs out there, but don't plan on talking to him much.
06:21	GNADev|zRokh	screen deatached? xD
06:21	VanessaE	no, he's just....picky about who he talks to.
06:22	GNADev|zRokh	well on dev hes away due to screen being detached
06:26	VanessaE	not everyone uses screen to keep their clients online.
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07:34	Yrol_Denjeah	°waves°
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08:13	DanDuncombe	Hi guys
08:14	DanDuncombe	And girls
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08:41	BlockMen	hi
08:45	JamesTait	Good morning all, happy Corn Fritter Day! :-D
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10:21	sfan5	hi
10:30	Calinou	hi
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10:42	PilzAdam	Hello everyone!
10:44	sfan5	hi PilzAdam
10:51	sfan5	!server ipv6
10:51	MinetestBot	sfan5: ipv6 only testing | [2002:50f0:d845:2:497b:8549:bb7:915e]:1234 | Clients: 0/100, 0 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.167
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10:58	Calinou	unlikely
11:00	PilzAdam	github failed again, http://choosealicense.com/ doesnt contain WTFPL
11:01	PilzAdam	uh, oh https://github.com/blog/1559-github-s-on-your-phone now I can read Minetest's source on the toilet
11:02	PilzAdam	(if I had a smartphone)
11:03	PilzAdam	my phone is like 6 years or so old
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11:18	arsdragonfly1	error:/home/arsdragonfly/minetest/bin/../builtin/serialize.lua:168: attempt to call method 'byte' (a nil value)
11:18	arsdragonfly1	what the hell is this
11:21	PilzAdam	you passs a nil value to stringtotable() I guess
11:22	PilzAdam	i.e. calling minetest.deserialize(nil)
11:22	arsdragonfly1	ok nvm
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11:26	arsdragonfly1	is there any helper command that shows the itemname in your hand?
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11:31	DanDuncombe	Helloooo?
11:33	arsdragonfly1	hi
11:34	DanDuncombe	hippos
11:34	DanDuncombe	hoppis
11:34	DanDuncombe	I'm bored
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11:45	PenguinDad	Hello all
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11:49	PenguinDad	Hi Calinou.
11:49	Calinou	hi
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12:03	Yrol_Denjeah	Greetings :o)
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12:09	PenguinDad	Was ist das andere?
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12:19	webdesigner97	The lighting in minetest gets worse (at least for me). Now everything is lighted correctly, but wood looks like it has this "nice light" setting turned off
12:19	webdesigner97	http://im.bilderkiste.org/9137397708356/light.png
12:19	Calinou	did you turn smooth lighting ofF? :P
12:19	Calinou	note that nodeboxes do not use smooth lighting
12:20	webdesigner97	Smooth lighting is on... Wood is the only node which isn't lighted correctly
12:20	Calinou	maybe a mod redefines it as nodebox or transparent node
12:21	webdesigner97	let me think....
12:22	Calinou	/mods
12:22	webdesigner97	I'll try to disable all mods
12:22	webdesigner97	hey, your're right.
12:22	Yrol_Denjeah	oO
12:22	webdesigner97	But I don't know which mods would do this...
12:23	Yrol_Denjeah	probably one of the last you added
12:24	webdesigner97	idk which one was the last one :D
12:24	webdesigner97	I'll enable every single mod and look for the result
12:25	Yrol_Denjeah	or use some searchtool to find out which file changes any "wood" related things
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12:27	webdesigner97	omg, it's moreblocks :O
12:28	Yrol_Denjeah	is this channel pg-rated?
12:30	webdesigner97	it works again :)
12:31	Yrol_Denjeah	hm, does this even work... °shakes micrpophone°
12:32	Yrol_Denjeah	webdesigner97, how did you fix it?
12:33	webdesigner97	:
12:33	webdesigner97	in moreblocks is a file "redefinitions.lua". I commented lines 92-101 out which override default:wood
12:34	Yrol_Denjeah	good
12:34	Yrol_Denjeah	°does it too°
12:34	PenguinDad	Fix party!
12:35	Yrol_Denjeah	hm, thats a weird bracket-syntax in that file
12:36	webdesigner97	what do you mean?
12:36	Yrol_Denjeah	you dont know what syntax means?
12:37	PenguinDad	My friend is making me nervous.
12:37	webdesigner97	sure. but what's the problem with it and where?
12:38	Calinou	weird
12:38	Calinou	why would a facedir node not use smooth lighting
12:38	Yrol_Denjeah	I did not say there is a problem. At all. As an example, in line 100 you have two closing brackets, which usually are placed on their own lines
12:38	* webdesigner97	writes it the same way
12:38	Calinou	oh, there is smooth lighting, but it looks weird
12:38	Calinou	engine bug
12:39	Calinou	you can set wood_facedir to false in _config.txt
12:39	Calinou	which is in "moreblocks"
12:39	webdesigner97	oh, yes
12:40	webdesigner97	btw, there are no line breaks on windows in it
12:41	Calinou	use a proper text editor, such as Notepad++
12:41	Calinou	windows' notepad can only into window encodings
12:41	Calinou	not standard ones
12:41	Yrol_Denjeah	Actually, there are none
12:41	Calinou	windows*
12:41	webdesigner97	ok
12:42	Yrol_Denjeah	oh, sorry, i assumed taht as a webdesigner, he woujld already know to use a proper editor
12:43	Calinou	:p
12:43	Yrol_Denjeah	°hopes its not his dayjob and grins°
12:44	webdesigner97	oh no
12:44	webdesigner97	I lost my seed again :( And forgot to backup
12:45	Yrol_Denjeah	Oh my god... are you telling me you are an airtraffic controller??
12:45	Yrol_Denjeah	take coooover!!!
12:45	webdesigner97	?
12:46	Yrol_Denjeah	lost your seed °giggles°
12:46	Calinou	that's what she said
12:47	Yrol_Denjeah	reminds me of episode one of the big bang theory
12:47	Calinou	le pirate
12:47	Yrol_Denjeah	or, in spanish: el pinada
12:48	PenguinDad	or in german: Der Pirat
12:50	PilzAdam	webdesigner97, looking at the screenshot I see that the tree node also has smooth lighting disabled
12:50	PilzAdam	seems like you have set the setting wrong
12:50	webdesigner97	the setting is ok. w8 I'll check it out
12:51	Calinou	shaders on?
12:51	Zeg9	maybe the horizontal tree. it has facedir too
12:51	Zeg9	facedir which is quite broken :p
12:51	Calinou	PilzAdam: they still don't look right to me with shaders
12:51	Calinou	facedir smooth lighting is broken, the end
12:52	PilzAdam	yep, RBA wanted to fix that ages ago
12:52	PilzAdam	but he just keeps adding new features instead of fixing the old ones
12:52	Yrol_Denjeah	ewww
12:52	Calinou	ITT: comparing RBA to mark shuttleworth
12:52	PilzAdam	"ITT"?
12:53	PenguinDad	:-D
12:53	webdesigner97	no, my tree nodes are ok (now)
12:53	Calinou	in this thread
12:54	webdesigner97	more or less. maybe it's just texture having strange borders
12:54	Calinou	it's not the texture
12:54	Exio4	in this topic, too
12:54	Calinou	Exio4: same thing
12:54	Exio4	no, check /thread and /topic
12:54	Exio4	:>
12:57	webdesigner97	oh, and PilzAdam. Great that you're here:
12:58	webdesigner97	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6499
12:59	PilzAdam	do you know c++?
12:59	webdesigner97	to be honest: no
12:59	Yrol_Denjeah	oO why woujld you need a setting based on how many blocks if you have a value for viscosity already?
12:59	webdesigner97	viscosity != radius, or am I wrong?
13:00	PilzAdam	yes
13:00	Yrol_Denjeah	no, you are not wrong
13:00	PilzAdam	viscosity is just the "speed" of the liquid
13:01	PilzAdam	testing how easy it would be...
13:01	webdesigner97	ok
13:02	Yrol_Denjeah	an example. using only radius, a 10 mter deep hole woujld fill instantly with molten lava, whereas using viscosity as base, it woujld fill appropriately slow
13:02	webdesigner97	I think it would make sense... A bucket of lava should'nt flow as far as water
13:02	Yrol_Denjeah	its not the radius that controls that.
13:03	Exio4	webdesigner97: </mc>
13:03	webdesigner97	?
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13:07	Yrol_Denjeah	in fact, i bet a bucket of lava would flow at least  as far as a bucket of water, because by the time the lava would reach its maximum spread, the water would already have dissipated
13:07	webdesigner97	yes, ok. that's right
13:10	webdesigner97	hmmm
13:10	webdesigner97	i think this is even more correct :D
13:10	Yrol_Denjeah	and there i specifically wrote "molten lava" >:oP
13:11	Yrol_Denjeah	john is correct though
13:11	webdesigner97	:D
13:12	Yrol_Denjeah	yet reality still doesnt say "oh, hm, the water has flown now 43.5 meters, i think we should stop now."
13:13	Calinou	john_minetest: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82342922/Images/water.jpg
13:13	Calinou	https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82342922/Images/lava.jpg
13:13	Calinou	youdontsay.jpg
13:13	Calinou	both seem to flow at a similar speed
13:13	Calinou	viscosity is probably just useless right now, when not using finite liquids
13:14	Yrol_Denjeah	especially when they have the same speed
13:16	Yrol_Denjeah	webdesigner97 the best solution for you would be: for petes sake...build ahouse around your kitchen, so the walls would limit the flow of the warer you ( again ) spilled while washing the dishes
13:16	webdesigner97	:D
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13:17	Yrol_Denjeah	because freankly, i am sick and tired of cleaning up after all the neighbor kids who cmoe to splash and play in the "instapool"
13:17	Exio4	PilzAdam: rewrite the hud for showing a 100hp bar
13:17	Exio4	:>
13:18	Calinou	^
13:18	Calinou	+1
13:18	webdesigner97	haha :D x2
13:18	Calinou	would allow for more accurate health removal
13:18	Calinou	(mobs/etc)
13:19	Yrol_Denjeah	it needs to be rewrittne to do such? °rolls eyes°
13:19	Calinou	not really
13:19	Calinou	I already did that once
13:20	Yrol_Denjeah	on the other hand.. 512 kb ram was thought to be enough once too ;O9
13:20	Exio4	640
13:20	Calinou	1) make a new health bar texture 2) make it so that it's small 3) adjust fall/lava/drown damage accordingly 4) yell at modders so that they multiply damage dealth by 5
13:20	Exio4	billy' words
13:20	Exio4	Calinou: yes, i made that,  but it doesn't look as it could be :P
13:20	Exio4	i'm eating words
13:21	Yrol_Denjeah	eat this then: applepie
13:21	webdesigner97	oh, nice. There's bread my furnace :)
13:22	Exio4	(plus a text showing how much health you has would work pretty nice)
13:23	Yrol_Denjeah	i agree, its so hard to count to ten ;oP
13:24	Yrol_Denjeah	im deadserious actually, by the time i reached teh 7th heart, to check if i can take one more hit, im fdead already
13:25	Exio4	you have, not has
13:26	Yrol_Denjeah	°reads back°
13:26	Yrol_Denjeah	u so tru, bro! >;oP
13:26	Calinou	Exio4: +1, a number at the left of health bar to show that
13:26	Calinou	maybe we could have slow health regen too
13:26	Yrol_Denjeah	i did not write "has" though
13:27	Calinou	one HP every minute or so
13:27	Exio4	1/10 of the max heath*
13:27	Yrol_Denjeah	calinou, only while resting and it gets faster when using a bed?
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13:27	Calinou	no, always
13:28	Calinou	and there are no beds in the default game, too, but why not
13:28	Calinou	it would have the ability to be modified by mods :P
13:28	Yrol_Denjeah	yup, you dont heal more hp per timeunit just because you are sturdier
13:28	Calinou	this isn't real life anyway, this is a game
13:29	Yrol_Denjeah	given that your bodysystems would be similar, regardless of you being an elf or a dwarf, it sohuld be slower even for a dwarf i think
13:29	Exio4	so, in a future, this http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Armor#Defense_points won't happen
13:29	Exio4	check gold/chain/iron
13:29	Exio4	then vs diamond
13:29	Calinou	fun fact: I made the image at the top right of that page
13:32	Kacey	bbl
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13:33	Megaf	Hi all
13:33	Megaf	I just discovered this game, quite a good game
13:33	Yrol_Denjeah	hi Megaf
13:33	Megaf	I'm having fun with it. It runs ok on my old Eee PC 701
13:33	webdesigner97	hello
13:34	Megaf	The main issue is the menu interface, it just doesnt fit to the small resolution
13:35	Yrol_Denjeah	Megaf, @ screen resolution: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Minetest.conf
13:37	webdesigner97	what does ignore_world_load_errors do?
13:44	Megaf	Yrol_Denjeah, that will not work, because items and text on menu will not downscale
13:45	Megaf	only the window borders
13:45	kahrl	webdesigner97: allow the server to continue to run when a damaged mapblock is loaded
13:45	Yrol_Denjeah	Megaf, you can also set a different font
13:46	webdesigner97	ok. And what is a damaged mapblock? A damaged entry in the database?
13:46	kahrl	yep
13:46	Yrol_Denjeah	ALso, Megaf and webdesigner97, you can check the minetest.conf.example for explanations and mroe stuff
13:47	Yrol_Denjeah	its in the same place as minetest.conf, i think
13:48	Yrol_Denjeah	-place +folder
13:50	webdesigner97	ah, great! A new minecraft lat's play by Gronkh for me to watch :D
13:50	Yrol_Denjeah	traitor!!!
13:50	Yrol_Denjeah	Who gives a damn about MC if we have MT?
13:51	Yrol_Denjeah	-if +when
13:51	webdesigner97	well
13:51	webdesigner97	there aren't many minetest LPs
13:51	webdesigner97	also, I really like gronkh ;)
13:52	Exio4	kahrl: how is the blackmagic&maths going?
13:52	Exio4	for the software renderer :P
13:52	Yrol_Denjeah	Do you also praise the beer of a tavern A when you are in tavern B? I'd say thats kinda inapropriate
13:53	webdesigner97	...
13:53	webdesigner97	gtg now
13:54	kahrl	Exio4: quite well
13:54	Yrol_Denjeah	have fun
13:54	webdesigner97	PlizAdam: Can you post your decision on my suggestion on its forum topic? thx
13:55	Yrol_Denjeah	oO
13:55	kahrl	I mean all I still have to do is fix texture rotation and implement some kind of supersampling
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13:55	DanDuncombe	I need help making a mod.Please can I have full code on how to do this.  Let's say, I have a bunch of NodeA floating in middair. Every five seconds each NodeA should have a 0.5 chance of changing air node directly beneath it into another NodeA. Every five seconds each NodeA should have a 0.25 chance of turning any air node directly beside it into NodeA. Now, imagine NodeA has spread to the ground. Every five seconds each Node
13:55	Yrol_Denjeah	DanDuncombe, you are asking for someone to make you a mod?
13:55	DanDuncombe	I need help yeah
13:56	DanDuncombe	The post was too long- the whole thing is on the modding general section of the forum
13:56	Yrol_Denjeah	"can I have full code" soudns a bit different ;o)
13:56	kahrl	DanDuncombe: have you tried ABMs?
13:56	Exio4	make the supersampling optional kahrl!
13:56	Yrol_Denjeah	Do you have an URL?
13:56	DanDuncombe	I just have no idea what to put in the abm
13:56	Exio4	or it will get the 20ms/node other time :P
13:57	kahrl	Exio4: of course
13:57	DanDuncombe	Do you mean url for the post?
13:57	DanDuncombe	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6583
13:57	Yrol_Denjeah	there it is
13:57	DanDuncombe	It's just I don't know how to detect nodes in an abm
13:57	Yrol_Denjeah	DanDuncombe, hihi, your avatar looks like the goblin from the game dungeons
13:58	DanDuncombe	I'm in the wrong IRC channel for this aren't I? I should probably be in the modding one...
13:58	DanDuncombe	I just randomly made my avatar for fun
13:58	Yrol_Denjeah	its cute!
13:59	DanDuncombe	Thaanx :)
13:59	Yrol_Denjeah	phew... so you went for cute, lucky me ;o)
13:59	DanDuncombe	It is a cute ugly troll who likes hugs
14:00	* DanDuncombe	hugs it
14:00	Yrol_Denjeah	sooo, its a homer simpsons from mars
14:00	DanDuncombe	Maybe,Maybe
14:00	Yrol_Denjeah	i kn ow, i know, martians now are supposed to be grey, but hey, im old school
14:01	DanDuncombe	Martians are magenta. Derr.
14:01	DanDuncombe	M for martians, m for magents
14:01	Yrol_Denjeah	oh and there i thought first you referred to the rocky horror picture show
14:02	DanDuncombe	No,
14:02	Yrol_Denjeah	Magenta there wasnt a martian, but, well from out of space anyways
14:02	DanDuncombe	Ah... How easy it is to ruin a world with 'register_ore'
14:02	Yrol_Denjeah	or to be precise, from another dimension
14:03	DanDuncombe	simply make it have a 1 in 1 chance of spawning in stone
14:03	Yrol_Denjeah	with voyeuristic intentions.....
14:03	DanDuncombe	We is being comfuzzled now
14:03	DanDuncombe	What are we talking about?
14:03	Yrol_Denjeah	gargyoles giving birth? ( spawning in stone )
14:04	DanDuncombe	Maybe.
14:04	DanDuncombe	Gargoyles always give birth to parakeets though
14:04	Yrol_Denjeah	I do not know what a parakeet is
14:05	DanDuncombe	I think it is a bird similar to a parrot
14:05	Yrol_Denjeah	ah
14:05	Exio4	who needs a hug?
14:05	* Exio4	hugs DanDuncombe and backstabs him
14:05	* DanDuncombe	backstabs Exio4's hair
14:05	Yrol_Denjeah	him? trolls have no sex
14:06	DanDuncombe	No they don't.
14:06	DanDuncombe	They just multiply
14:06	Yrol_Denjeah	until sunrise
14:06	DanDuncombe	Then they die.
14:06	DanDuncombe	They become stone
14:07	Yrol_Denjeah	garegoyles
14:07	* DanDuncombe	turns to stone
14:07	DanDuncombe	Dangit!
14:07	DanDuncombe	The sun! it burns!
14:07	Yrol_Denjeah	stop imitating montgomery burns form the simpsons!
14:08	* DanDuncombe	is very confused now...
14:08	DanDuncombe	I just need to test a IRC command...
14:08	Yrol_Denjeah	now see what you ended up with... me!
14:09	* DanDuncombe	hasn't done anything wrong.
14:09	Exio4	yet
14:09	Exio4	;)
14:09	* PenguinDad	has much fun with Unvanquished.
14:09	DanDuncombe	Why does /me deserve this?
14:09	* DanDuncombe	has to go now!
14:09	* DanDuncombe	says bye bye!
14:10	Yrol_Denjeah	DanDuncombe, whpo said i am a punishment? might just aswell be a reward
14:10	Yrol_Denjeah	bah, fastquitter
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14:53	NekoGloop	Meow
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15:05	* Jordach	sleepily flops down on the channel sofa
15:06	* NekoGloop	curls up on the seat next to jordach
15:06	* Jordach	pets NekoGloop
15:06	Jordach	good kitty :3
15:06	* NekoGloop	purrs :3
15:06	NekoGloop	Currently I'm hacking pokemon fire red.
15:07	Yepoleb	hacking?
15:07	NekoGloop	Today i learned: Don't place flowers next to water; visual bugs abound!
15:07	NekoGloop	Yepoleb, Yep.
15:07	Jordach	NekoGloop, R&S is the easiest
15:08	NekoGloop	I prefer fire red sprites.
15:08	Jordach	ah
15:08	Yepoleb	decompiling?
15:08	NekoGloop	There's probably some tool for importing fire red sprites but I'm too lazy to find it.
15:08	Jordach	NekoGloop, given the time; i'll probably have the music and 3d models done for gen 3
15:08	NekoGloop	Yepoleb, Editing maps. Not really decompiling; directly editing the .gba file.
15:08	Jordach	i just need an engine
15:09	Yepoleb	how big is it?
15:09	NekoGloop	~16 MB.
15:09	Jordach	NekoGloop, http://www.mediafire.com/listen/y89p9169xe67vod/R-S-E_-_RT103.ogg
15:09	NekoGloop	mm~ sounds awesome.
15:09	Jordach	NekoGloop, i can loop that too
15:09	Jordach	with simple audio trick
15:09	Jordach	s*
15:10	Yepoleb	didn't know that works with a filen >~1mb
15:10	NekoGloop	Yepoleb, special program called Advance Map.
15:10	Jordach	NekoGloop, http://www.mediafire.com/listen/ppb66hto3llddjw/rscred.ogg
15:10	NekoGloop	combined with Advance Trainer.
15:10	Yepoleb	oh
15:10	Jordach	^ Saphire's credits, real or synths
15:10	Jordach	damn my fingers are slow today
15:10	NekoGloop	I never liked the credits theme. In any game :P
15:11	Jordach	NekoGloop, i have a copy of emerald; so i decided to pimp the battle factories tune :)
15:11	NekoGloop	I have a copy of everything
15:11	Jordach	haha
15:12	Jordach	NekoGloop is the new photocopier around here; I needed one :P
15:12	Jordach	rb
15:12	Jordach	brb
15:12	NekoGloop	lol
15:15	Jordach	and it's fucking hot in here :P
15:18	Yrol_Denjeah	°sings° Fever! in the morning, fever when you hold me tight...
15:18	Jordach	Yrol_Denjeah, no
15:18	Jordach	just no
15:18	Yrol_Denjeah	°pouts and hides behind wallpaper°
15:19	Jordach	y u use celsius symbols
15:19	Jordach	use asterisks
15:20	Yrol_Denjeah	Why should i? Other people write u instead of you
15:20	Yrol_Denjeah	no one complainms there...
15:20	Jordach	because that's accepted
15:20	Jordach	*many* people prefer things as *they were*
15:21	Yrol_Denjeah	that is their given right
15:21	* Jordach	is like that
15:22	Jordach	omfg
15:23	Jordach	my windows 7 home premium system only uses 29% of 2GB of ram
15:23	Yrol_Denjeah	let me guess.. while idliong around
15:23	Jordach	Yrol_Denjeah, yup; and only uses 2% compared to everyone else who has crapware
15:23	Yrol_Denjeah	well, it also installs 15 GB as far as i know
15:23	Jordach	(2% being cpu)
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15:26	Yrol_Denjeah	asterisk hugs windows xp asterisk
15:26	Yrol_Denjeah	;oP
15:26	Yrol_Denjeah	happy now?
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15:27	Yrol_Denjeah	oh come on! °giggles°
15:27	* NekoGloop	is using 4% of his CPU while doing like 10 different things, and 71% of 4GB ram (more than half of that usage is google chrome)
15:27	NekoGloop	Windows 8.
15:27	PilzAdam	google is evil
15:27	Exio4	http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&amp;item=amd_dpm_preview
15:27	Yrol_Denjeah	my saying
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15:28	Yrol_Denjeah	in my list of most evil stuff mankind invented, google takes place 3, right behind the ICE and cellphones
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15:30	RealBadAngel	hi all
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15:30	Yrol_Denjeah	hello RealBadAngel
15:31	pehjota	Jordach: How is "°" a "celsius symbol"? :D
15:31	Yepoleb	hi Calinou
15:32	Yrol_Denjeah	pehjota, 'snot, its a lil cute bubble :o)
15:32	PilzAdam	Jordach, FYI; the "celsius symbol" is C
15:33	Calinou	pehjota: （╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
15:33	pehjota	PilzAdam: :)
15:34	StarBlessed	PilzAdam: An explanation : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degree_symbol
15:34	RealBadAngel	°C that is celsius symbol
15:34	pehjota	Calinou: Celsius eyes!
15:35	PilzAdam	RealBadAngel, no, "C" means celsius, "°" means degree, the whole unit is "degree celsius"
15:35	StarBlessed	RealBadAngel: Thats actually the "Degrees Celsius" Symbol
15:35	RealBadAngel	indeed, used shortcut
15:35	RealBadAngel	30 °C means 30 degrees on Celsius scale
15:36	RealBadAngel	thats the temperature outside atm :)
15:36	pehjota	RealBadAngel: Which is the current temperature here.
15:36	Yrol_Denjeah	unless you hold it upside down, then it is 110 °C ( 30+180 )
15:36	pehjota	(outside)
15:36	Exio4	lol Yrol_Denjeah
15:36	StarBlessed	4°C here.
15:37	Calinou	~300° here
15:37	Calinou	youdontsay.jpg
15:37	PilzAdam	bbl
15:37	* Calinou	runs
15:37	pehjota	Calinou: Kelvin?
15:37	Yrol_Denjeah	Calinou, runs as in melts?
15:37	RealBadAngel	i just made circa 25km on bike, im pretty tired :)
15:37	Calinou	pehjota: yes
15:37	Yrol_Denjeah	RealBadAngel, i doubt you are pretty ;opü
15:37	Exio4	about 16C here :D
15:38	Yrol_Denjeah	not after 25 km
15:38	RealBadAngel	hehe
15:38	RealBadAngel	i used to make 8km to work and same when back every day
15:38	RealBadAngel	but today i made 25km in one shot
15:38	Yrol_Denjeah	RealBadAngel, you arent a supermodel then
15:39	Calinou	suddenly: tour de france
15:39	Yrol_Denjeah	( because they dont know how to ride a bike )
15:40	RealBadAngel	i know a guy that is able to ride on bike to the sea side, see the sea, and go back again
15:40	RealBadAngel	circa 200km
15:40	RealBadAngel	he does such trips on weekends
15:40	Yrol_Denjeah	isnt he mentioned in the u.s. hymn? something about shing seat to sea or so?
15:40	Yrol_Denjeah	shining
15:41	Yrol_Denjeah	RealBadAngel, hihi, where does he live? on cyprus?
15:41	marktraceur	"Sea to shining sea", but it's not a hymn, nor is it an anthem, it's just a song
15:41	Yrol_Denjeah	oh ok
15:42	Yrol_Denjeah	i misread it anyways and thought he rode from one sea to the other
15:42	RealBadAngel	Yrol_Denjeah, same as i do, middle of poland
15:43	RealBadAngel	he goes to baltic sea and back again
15:43	Yrol_Denjeah	ah -that- sea
15:43	Yrol_Denjeah	He's on the lookout for the germans, eyh?
15:44	RealBadAngel	hehe
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15:48	Yrol_Denjeah	hm, this is intersting:
15:48	Yrol_Denjeah	"What is often confusing about the Celsius measurement is that it follows an interval system but not a ratio system; that it follows a relative scale not an absolute scale. This is put simply by illustrating that while 10 °C and 20 °C have the same interval difference as 20 °C and 30 °C the temperature 20 °C is not twice the air heat energy as 10 °C."
15:53	PenguinDad	Does a sapling grow on every ground???
15:54	Exio4	nope
15:54	Yrol_Denjeah	And you need water nearby
15:54	Yrol_Denjeah	laughs°
15:55	pehjota	Yrol_Denjeah: The same applies to the Fahrenheit scale.  Only Kelvin is a ratio system, if I understand that correctly.
15:55	Yrol_Denjeah	not THAT much, calinou ( (Quit: Excess Flood) )
15:55	NekoGloopMkII	that's his default quit message
15:55	pehjota	PenguinDad: Saplings don't grow on top of trees.  (I've tried.)
15:56	Yrol_Denjeah	NekoGloopMkII, it sure suited the context in a funny way
15:56	Exio4	it is a "reference"
15:56	Yrol_Denjeah	pehjota, hey, i did too!
15:57	Yrol_Denjeah	pehjota, wait, did you plant it "on top" of the tree or on top of the "stump"?
15:57	Yrol_Denjeah	trunk?
15:57	pehjota	Yrol_Denjeah: I herd u like trees, so I put trees on your trees.
15:57	pehjota	Yrol_Denjeah: On top, on the leaves.
15:57	Yrol_Denjeah	now thats just silly
15:58	Yrol_Denjeah	after all, a hairpiece goes onto the skin of the skull, not any remaining hair you have
15:59	Yrol_Denjeah	( it doesnt work either when planting it on top of the leafless trunk though )
16:00	ShadowNinja	Yrol_Denjeah: Put tree or leaves in the group 'soil'.
16:01	Yrol_Denjeah	ShadowNinja, but that wouldnt be very realistic now would it?
16:02	Yrol_Denjeah	as then you could probably grow/farm wheat onto them
16:02	pehjota	Yrol_Denjeah: You say "silly" like it's a bad thing.
16:03	Yrol_Denjeah	pehjota, okok, so you want me to be nasty.. .repalce silly with stupid ;oP
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16:04	pehjota	Yrol_Denjeah: Ha :)
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16:10	iqualfragile	oh, wow, good news: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&amp;item=amd_dpm_preview
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16:23	Zeg9	me just noticed the lua menu isn't using the good clouds
16:25	Jordach	/me *
16:25	Jordach	i just had a 6v6 RTS game
16:25	Jordach	fucking AWESOME
16:25	Jordach	someone had to go build the super structure that wins the game within 10 mins
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16:36	iqualfragile	game?
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16:37	Yrol_Denjeah	fucking?
16:37	DanDuncombe	Errm?
16:38	Yrol_Denjeah	john_minetest, you have to help me out here... awesome means "very good" right?
16:39	MinetestBot	?mrrE
16:39	Yrol_Denjeah	john_minetest, okay, so when we now state that "full" is more than "some", "awfull" would be "better than very  ;o)good"
16:39	DanDuncombe	No Awefull would be better
16:40	DanDuncombe	awfull and awefull are different
16:40	Jordach	Yrol_Denjeah, DanDuncombe, iqualfragile: Age of Mythology: Titans Expansion
16:40	Yrol_Denjeah	oh.. ok
16:40	* Jordach	was eating at the time
16:40	DanDuncombe	Errrm...?
16:40	* DanDuncombe	says yummy cow
16:40	MinetestBot	?...mrrrE
16:41	DanDuncombe	Yummyy Cow
16:41	Yrol_Denjeah	Jordach, i am disappointed in you, i thought, you meant a game in MT
16:41	Jordach	Yrol_Denjeah, nope.
16:41	Jordach	RTS = Real Time Strategy
16:41	DanDuncombe	Lolololololololopoop.
16:41	Yrol_Denjeah	so? MT can be scripted to do what you explained..
16:42	Jordach	Yrol_Denjeah, no
16:42	DanDuncombe	Oh well
16:42	Jordach	our pvp is shit and slow
16:42	DanDuncombe	Yep
16:42	DanDuncombe	Ah well
16:42	Jordach	the building and resource gathering is good; but, RTS games have the materials above ground
16:42	DanDuncombe	Oh dear
16:42	Yrol_Denjeah	errrm, i wasnt talkinga bout pvp, and neither were you. you talked about "erecting a sepcific structure within a timelöimit"
16:42	Jordach	Yrol_Denjeah, there was no time limit
16:43	DanDuncombe	Naked! Fury! Has! Quit!
16:43	Jordach	the games are infinite: if someone wins with a wonder, or by crushing all enemies
16:43	Jordach	then the game ends
16:43	DanDuncombe	Who fancies some cheesecake?
16:43	Jordach	blegh
16:43	NekoGloopMkII	ew
16:43	Jordach	i just had sausage and onion pie
16:43	Jordach	:D
16:43	NekoGloopMkII	cheesecake is ew
16:43	Yrol_Denjeah	DanDuncombe, im fine, penny.
16:43	* DanDuncombe	gives everyone, even Jordach, virtual cheesecake
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16:44	* Jordach	gives it to MinetestBot
16:44	* NekoGloopMkII	throws it in Dan's face
16:44	DanDuncombe	That silenced you all
16:44	Yrol_Denjeah	jordach that must have been a gib sausage!
16:45	Yrol_Denjeah	errm -gib +big
16:45	* Jordach	hates IRC newbs
16:45	Jordach	most of the time
16:45	* Jordach	doesnt liked being called
16:45	* DanDuncombe	is definately not an IRC noob.
16:45	Jordach	well, i didnt know
16:45	NekoGloopMkII	Jordach, Re: Pokemon hacking: Fire red has a lot of empty space in the rom, as well.
16:46	Yrol_Denjeah	Jordach, you just admitted you also are a newbie, otrherwise you would know how to disable nickhighlighting ;oP
16:46	Jordach	NekoGloopMkII, increasing the ROM size to 64mb makes the rom run fine
16:46	NekoGloopMkII	I know.
16:46	NekoGloopMkII	But there's a lot of empty space already here
16:46	Jordach	Yrol_Denjeah, i've been here for more than a year on IRC
16:46	Jordach	so shush
16:46	* Jordach	has operator abilities
16:47	Jordach	MinetestBot, please do it :P
16:47	Jordach	!op
16:47	Yrol_Denjeah	time doesnt make one experienced... experiences do.
16:47	* Jordach	pokes sfan5 with the do it stick
16:47	NekoGloopMkII	There's at least five offsets with ~1000 bytes free (the "search for free space" function in my editor stops after 5 offsets)
16:47	NekoGloopMkII	which winds up going for a lot, because everything is a pointer :P
16:48	DanDuncombe	Hello?
16:48	DanDuncombe	Anybody out there?
16:48	Yrol_Denjeah	just nod if you can hear me
16:48	Yrol_Denjeah	is there anyone home?
16:48	Yrol_Denjeah	°loves pink floyd°
16:49	DanDuncombe	Just found this amazing website! http://tinyurl.com/oh7qeny
16:50	Yrol_Denjeah	oO
16:50	Yrol_Denjeah	there is a minetest forum ??!!?
16:50	Jordach	no tinyurl links
16:50	Jordach	because no one will click them
16:50	DanDuncombe	Why not?
16:51	Jordach	and MinetestBot has something for this
16:51	Jordach	!title
16:51	MinetestBot	Jordach: Minetest Forums
16:51	Jordach	see
16:51	Yrol_Denjeah	<confused
16:53	DanDuncombe	Here is a pointless tinyurl: http://tinyurl.com/u
16:53	Jordach	!title
16:53	MinetestBot	Jordach: TinyURL.com - shorten that long URL into a tiny URL
16:53	Yrol_Denjeah	DanDuncombe, it may be pointless, but not periodless
16:53	Jordach	not going to click it, ever
16:53	DanDuncombe	What about this even more pointless one? http://tinyurl.com/oa6lbjl
16:53	DanDuncombe	!title
16:53	MinetestBot	DanDuncombe: freenode Web IRC (qwebirc)
16:53	Yrol_Denjeah	unless a period wthin instead of at the end of a sentence IS a point, errm, or, the toher way round
16:54	Jordach	DanDuncombe, dont abuse the bots; you will be banned from using them
16:54	DanDuncombe	How did I abuse it?
16:54	Yrol_Denjeah	the horror!
16:55	Jordach	i'm giving people a warning before something like that happens
16:55	Yrol_Denjeah	DanDuncombe seriously, dont do it, without the bots its unbearingly horrible here
16:55	DanDuncombe	But how did I abuse it?
16:56	Jordach	DanDuncombe, you havent: but if you keep making yourself use !title everytime, then feel free to use the long link
16:56	DanDuncombe	I used !title once!
16:56	Jordach	because we do give a fuck about the links, and we know you put porn on the forums
16:56	Yrol_Denjeah	and Jordach uised it more than you, DanDuncombe
16:56	DanDuncombe	How did I do porn?
16:56	DanDuncombe	How?!
16:56	Jordach	that "random" spam account
16:56	Jordach	sfan5 banned it sometime back
16:56	DanDuncombe	I got randomly banned once, yes
16:57	Jordach	<sfan5> did that spam you reported .... contain .... boobs?
16:57	Jordach	<Jordach> yes
16:57	Yrol_Denjeah	DanDuncombe, its called preemptive strike, you -might- some time do it, hence the warning
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16:57	DanDuncombe	So someone made a spam account and I was blamed?
16:57	Jordach	DanDuncombe, your IPs were the same
16:57	DanDuncombe	Well, it is not my fault, is it?
16:58	DanDuncombe	I bet hundreds of computers have the same ip... probably
16:58	Jordach	http://paste.ubuntu.com/5881506/
16:58	DanDuncombe	No... I got banned
16:59	DanDuncombe	I emailed to be unbanned
16:59	DanDuncombe	To the celeron email it told me to email if I thought there was a mistake
16:59	Jordach	i hear everything that happens -- the grapevine rule
16:59	Jordach	also:
16:59	DanDuncombe	and if I was banned, how could I have  put porn on the forums?!
16:59	Jordach	DanDuncombe, i cant hear you
17:00	Jordach	PM's unavailible too
17:00	DanDuncombe	This is seriously f***ed up
17:00	DanDuncombe	Can we talk about something less stupid?
17:00	Jordach	DanDuncombe, disconnect from internet, reconnect = new ip
17:00	DanDuncombe	Like pineapples
17:00	DanDuncombe	Maybe I reconnected with the same ip as the spam account?
17:01	Yrol_Denjeah	what a silly topic
17:01	DanDuncombe	yep
17:01	thexyz	boobs ain't no porn
17:01	DanDuncombe	lets talk about default:stone_with_mese
17:01	Jordach	i think sfan5 might be religious in someway
17:01	Jordach	explains it a bit
17:01	DanDuncombe	Really?
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17:02	DanDuncombe	Hello MarkTwain
17:02	MarkTwain	Hi
17:02	thexyz	Jordach: that'd suck
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17:02	Yrol_Denjeah	<thexyz> boobs ain't no porn //  wrong, they are when no baby is connected to them! +;oP
17:02	* Jordach	sighs, and fucks off for some time
17:02	DanDuncombe	When I join the channel, I cannot see if there has been any conversation going on before I joined. Is this intentional?
17:03	DanDuncombe	Also boobs are meant for feeding babies...
17:03	DanDuncombe	So in that respect they are perfectly normal.
17:03	MarkTwain	can someone test http://marktest.co.uk/CHAT
17:04	DanDuncombe	How to sign up?
17:04	DanDuncombe	It works!
17:05	Yrol_Denjeah	DanDuncombe, depends onyour irc client
17:06	Yrol_Denjeah	wait
17:06	Yrol_Denjeah	of course you cannot see any conversation before you joined
17:06	Yrol_Denjeah	DanDuncombe, why are there two then?
17:06	thexyz	Yrol_Denjeah: to feed two at once?
17:06	Yrol_Denjeah	DanDuncombe and why have men boobs? 8 smaller, sure, but esentially the same thing )
17:06	Yrol_Denjeah	thexyz, have you ever seen that? i did not.
17:06	thexyz	Yrol_Denjeah: but it's possible!
17:06	DanDuncombe	Men still have the oestrogen hormone
17:06	DanDuncombe	Just less than  women (obviously)
17:07	Yrol_Denjeah	thexyz, also: evolitionwise, if a woman from the stonegage or so, had two babies, she probably would die without the advances in medicine we have today
17:08	DanDuncombe	Must go for now
17:09	Yrol_Denjeah	bye dan
17:09	Jordach	better
17:09	Jordach	thank fuck; was getting bored of the troll
17:09	Jordach	ugly*
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17:10	Yrol_Denjeah	thexyz, i am not even sure its possible really, it certainly would be some balancing act and maybe quite exhausting for the mother ( regarding production of milk )
17:10	Jordach	wb netsplitters
17:11	thexyz	Yrol_Denjeah: if they had only had 1 we'd have extinct by now
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17:11	* NekoGloopMkII	curls up in Jordach's lap
17:11	Jordach	awww
17:12	Yrol_Denjeah	thexyz, hm... china survived ;o)
17:12	* Jordach	pets NekoGloopMkI
17:12	Jordach	I*
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17:12	Yrol_Denjeah	quite well even
17:12	* NekoGloopMkII	purrs
17:12	* DanDuncombe	asks what is everyone talking about.
17:13	Yrol_Denjeah	DanDuncombe, -some- are talking about amount of boobs on a female body
17:13	thexyz	Yrol_Denjeah: that's not what I'm talking about
17:13	Yrol_Denjeah	thexyz, i know ;o)
17:13	DanDuncombe	There can be up to twelve on some animals
17:13	DanDuncombe	possibly more
17:14	Yrol_Denjeah	thexyz, you are probably correct though, with only pone breast, as mammals pretty much always have 2*usual amount of babies, we wouldnt have survived with 0.5 babies per mother
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17:14	DanDuncombe	No because half a baby would probably die
17:14	DanDuncombe	or yes
17:18	pehjota	I don't even…
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17:19	Yrol_Denjeah	°waves°
17:21	DanDuncombe	nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
17:21	DanDuncombe	Bye
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17:48	* DanDuncombe	hates NekoGloopMkII
17:48	* NekoGloopMkII	is alright with this
17:49	* DanDuncombe	still hates NekoGloopMkII
17:49	* DanDuncombe	will hate NekoGloopMkII forever
17:49	* NekoGloopMkII	yawns
17:49	DanDuncombe	Even if you give me kittens I will hate you
17:49	ShadowNinja	That update was well timed...
17:50	Kacey	alright, time to increase the size of the ignore list...
17:50	Kacey	DanDuncombe!*@* added to ignore list.
17:50	DanDuncombe	Fuck you all
17:51	NekoGloopMkII	Kacey, *!*@* should be on there, right?
17:51	Kacey	yes
17:51	ShadowNinja	Kacey: Please don't anounce that.
17:51	Kacey	i have a button that automatically does all that
17:51	Kacey	i will re-program it later...
17:52	ShadowNinja	"The only thing we have to /ignore is /ignore itself" -- Someone in #defocus
17:52	ShadowNinja	(Became the topic for the day)
17:54	NekoGloopMkII	ShadowNinja, it did make him go away though
17:56	ShadowNinja	Meh, if he gets bad enough /mode +q/b.
18:00	* NekoGloopMkII	is still listening to http://www.mediafire.com/listen/y89p9169xe67vod/R-S-E_-_RT103.ogg
18:00	pehjota	FWIW, DanDuncombe was acting immature and noobish, but NekoGloopMkII and Kacey were also provoking him.  (And I tried to troll him a little, but it apparently failed.)
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18:03	NakedFury	if aliens just wanted to see the tre nature of humanity they just have to browse the web chats to find the worst of us
18:04	Pineapples	Really quite true I guess. They would have to make an account though first, wouldn't they? What if they didn't understand any of our languages?
18:04	Exio4	then, they would check and see things like [19:11:33]*<kahrl> I made a java solution! http://codepad.org/XkitNLv4
18:04	Exio4	all of them would die
18:05	NekoGloopMkII	of laughter?
18:06	Exio4	no, bleeding, their eyes would bleed.
18:07	Kacey	NakedFury, they can come for me! i will stab them all with my stick of doom!
18:07	Pineapples	Aliens laugh through their eyes
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18:15	Jordach	i told you Dan was a asshole
18:15	Jordach	...who didnt listen?
18:15	Exio4	you're one too
18:15	Exio4	:>
18:15	Jordach	Exio4, at least i dont piss people off
18:15	Jordach	i ignored him earlier
18:16	Jordach	he's intolerable in IRC and the forums
18:16	Exio4	i want that gna guy
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18:22	Jordach	interesting blue screen
18:22	Jordach	logging off to reset display settings
18:22	* Jordach	thinks this nvidia driver is a bitch
18:24	Jordach	i found the cause: too recent drivers crash
18:39	Pineapples	g'bye, folks.
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18:41	artur99	hi
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18:43	Jordach	drivers = fixec
18:43	Jordach	fixed*
18:44	Menche	is there a way to have your coordinates displayed by default?
18:44	Jordach	nope.avi
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18:46	Pineapples	!ignore
18:46	Pineapples	woops
18:47	Jordach	btw, should we ban dandudumbe? http://i.imgur.com/Y0Gt3sb.png
18:47	Jordach	and there's yer proof
18:50	* Menche	is getting 1 FPS in minetest right now
18:50	* Menche	curses entity duplication
18:51	Menche	any particular reason why dropped items spin?
18:51	NekoGloopMkII	because pie
18:52	Megaf	folks, is it possible to import minecraft maps?
18:52	Jordach	Megaf, there's a tool hanging around. although i cant find it atm
18:52	Jordach	also: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=100229#p100229
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18:53	* Menche	's FPS has now dropped to 0
18:54	Menche	aaaaaand timed out
18:54	Jordach	o hai Dan
18:54	Jordach	Pineapples, i keep count of ip pools
18:54	Jordach	notably 189.xx.xx.xx
18:55	Menche	wasn't 189.*.*.* LandMine?
18:55	Megaf	are you playing online atm?
18:55	Jordach	yes
18:55	Jordach	Megaf, nope.avi
18:55	Megaf	if you were, Id like to join ;)
18:56	Menche	so, my server was lagging horrible, not loading any new blocks, and i was getting 0 FPS
18:56	Menche	i timed out and reconnected
18:56	Menche	now it feels as snappy as singleplayer
18:56	Pineapples	Menche: Is your server online?
18:56	Menche	yeah
18:56	Pineapples	I tried to join but got stuck at 'Connecting to server'
18:56	Menche	it isn't always feeling well
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18:57	Exio4	Jordach: did you make http://www.mediafire.com/download/y89p9169xe67vod/R-S-E+-+RT103.ogg?
18:57	Pineapples	Oh well. Is it me or are so many servers getting problems now?
18:57	Jordach	Exio4, yes
18:57	Jordach	Shat
18:57	Jordach	shared by jordach.snelling
18:57	Exio4	wow then
18:57	Jordach	durr
18:57	Menche	my server is definitely having problems
18:57	Exio4	you can share everything
18:57	Exio4	it doesn't created by
18:58	Menche	well, was
18:58	Exio4	;P
18:58	Menche	it is doing great at the moment
18:58	Menche	...probably because it kicked everyone else. just noticed the others aren't on.
18:59	Jordach	s/kicked/disconnected & timed out
18:59	Menche	yeah
19:00	Menche	why do i even bother? the area around spawn is griefed to pieces
19:00	Pineapples	I thought there was a protection mod?
19:00	Menche	yeah
19:00	Jordach	Exio4, my original song for minetest: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/o96iy9b9ld9bqtf/mtest.ogg
19:01	thexyz	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6585
19:01	ShadowNinja	Jordach: Did you try my fixed areas?
19:01	Pineapples	SO how come it got griefed? I thought it would be made invincible.
19:01	thexyz	oh was posted already
19:01	Menche	not everyone used it, it isn't flexible enough to protect roads, it doesn't protect against bucket attacks, a lot of the greifing is just moving the landscape around
19:01	thexyz	Jordach: wow u asshole
19:02	Exio4	JORDACH IS AN UNKNOWN ASSHOLE FOR MINETEST ...
19:02	Exio4	not
19:02	Megaf	thanks Jordach, I will look for it
19:02	thexyz	at least you saved the porn he posted didn't you?
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19:02	thexyz	DIDN'T YOU?
19:03	Exio4	hahahahahaha
19:03	* Pineapples	agrees with Exio4
19:03	Calinou	ITT: fruits agreeing with Exio4
19:03	Jordach	wait for sfan5 -- he knows the truth
19:03	Exio4	lol'd
19:04	Calinou	john_minetest, the pony slaystation
19:04	Calinou	Exio4, :>
19:04	Pineapples	I have to go AFK for a bit, see you all later!
19:05	Calinou	bye Pineapples
19:05	blaze	it's not a fruit, it's like cone
19:05	Exio4	anyway
19:05	Calinou	john_minetest, was a joke, look at the IRC logs :P
19:05	Exio4	i want to know where is all that pr0n
19:05	Jordach	Exio4, sfan5 deleted it
19:05	Calinou	>2013 >pr0n
19:06	Jordach	LOLOLOL mediafire says chrome cant play .ogg; it's playing it fine
19:06	thexyz	Calinou: ?
19:06	Calinou	nevermind
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19:07	Menche	Pineapples = DanDuncombe?
19:07	Jordach	Menche, yes
19:07	NekoGloopMkII	Fuck the system, I use minetest
19:07	Jordach	the IP matches
19:08	GassyBritish	I logged in using my forum username and password
19:08	PilzAdam	john_minetest!
19:08	GassyBritish	How do I register my username in Irc?
19:08	Jordach	GassyBritish, freenode is a different entity to the forums btw
19:08	PilzAdam	GassyBritish, /MSG NickServ HELP
19:08		GCHQ joined #minetest
19:09	Menche	Pineapple's forum account was created 10 minutes after Dan Duncombe's 'I'm leaving' message
19:09	Jordach	we knoe it's him
19:09	Jordach	know*
19:09	Calinou	<TF2 spy> *cough cough*
19:09	Jordach	^
19:10	Calinou	Pineapples, you are dan duncombe
19:10	NekoGloopMkII	It would seem I am not the only spy...
19:10	Jordach	<Medic> Prepare for your examination!!
19:10	pandaro	hi adam
19:10	GassyBritish	The Pineapples a spy
19:10	NekoGloopMkII	<Heavy> I HAS BIG GUN!1!!!!!1!111!!one
19:11	Jordach	* DanDuncombe (55d28ae3gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.210.138.227) has joined
19:11	Jordach	* Pineapples (55d28ae3gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.210.138.227) has joined
19:11	Jordach	and there you go
19:11	pandaro	PilzAdam what is the maximum size reached from your map[2] (in pixel)?
19:11	GassyBritish	There we go, I have registered my Irc account
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19:12	GassyBritish	This should work now :)
19:13	Jordach	/msg nickserv identify passwor
19:13	PilzAdam	pandaro, ummm... you actually use this mod? its horrible...
19:13	thexyz	it's so much less fun when you see users' IPs
19:14	GassyBritish	Adam I may start recording my Minetest Lp Tomoz if my house is quiet
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19:14	Calinou	thexyz, it's also less fun if you don't tell them how to get a cloak :P
19:14	Jordach	GassyBritish, you live in devon right
19:14	pandaro	horrible...no,
19:14	GassyBritish	Yep
19:14	Jordach	been to Hayne's motor musuem?
19:14	pandaro	PilzAdam there is better? I have tried to do something of my own but I can not work with images
19:14	PilzAdam	Calinou, /msg #freenode HEY YOU NOOBS CAN I HAZ CLOAK PLS K THX BYE
19:14	GassyBritish	No
19:14	Jordach	ah, i have
19:15	Megaf	PilzAdam, no need for dat
19:15	GassyBritish	Where is it?
19:15	thexyz	PilzAdam: neat
19:15	Calinou	PilzAdam, yeah, that works
19:15	Jordach	GassyBritish, somewhere, can't remember
19:15	pandaro	I am looking for something compatible with my mod player_radar
19:15	Jordach	(i went there years ago)
19:15	Jordach	and i live in norfolk
19:16	GassyBritish	How can I cloak my Ip in Irc?
19:16	Calinou	GassyBritish, /join #freenode -- then say "can i has cloak" :>
19:16	Jordach	GassyBritish, download hexchat
19:16	Calinou	or something like that
19:16	thexyz	or BNC
19:17	PilzAdam	Jordach, no u, xchat
19:17	Jordach	+he
19:17	thexyz	do we allow multiple accounts on forum?
19:17	Calinou	hexchat is better than xchat, but it's not in debian/ubuntu repos
19:17	Jordach	idk
19:17	Calinou	thexyz, there is no rule about that
19:17		Weedy joined #minetest
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19:17	thexyz	GassyBritish: also, this ^ is not how you should cloak
19:18	GassyBritish	?
19:18	thexyz	Calinou: but should there be one?
19:18	Calinou	maybe
19:18	thexyz	GassyBritish: as you see, Weedy joined the channel before his/her cloak was applied
19:19	GassyBritish	[20:17] <thumbs> GassyBritish: the gateway cloak would override the unaffiliated cloak, for the recor [20:17] <thumbs> *record
19:19	GassyBritish	I don't know what that means
19:19	Jordach	GassyBritish, download hexchat, as i said: that way it allows you to have GassyBritishunafiliated/gassybritish
19:19	thexyz	that's true and you should really be using real irc client
19:19	thexyz	like irssi or so
19:19	GassyBritish	Ok
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19:20	Jordach	hehe 69
19:20	GassyBritish	Is Hexchat just for Linux?
19:20	Jordach	GassyBritish, windows too
19:21	Jordach	i'm using 2.9.5 right now
19:21	GassyBritish	I don't know what I need (x86 or x64)
19:21	Exio4	x86
19:21	Exio4	in doubt
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19:21	Jordach	GassyBritish, is your PC 64bit (check in system properties)
19:21	Menche	what is your processor?
19:21	GassyBritish	It is 32 bit
19:21	Jordach	x86 then
19:22	GassyBritish	Ty
19:22	Menche	it's called x64? i thought it was called x86_64
19:22	Exio4	amd64 ftw
19:22	Menche	or that
19:22	Jordach	Intel_64EMT
19:23	GassyBritish	I tried Minetest on my dads I5 laptop earliar and got 50-60 fps when render distance for 6000+
19:23	Exio4	GassyBritish: that can't be true though :>
19:23	Calinou	GassyBritish, that 6000+ render distance isn't effective
19:23	Calinou	you didn't went through all the terrain so that it generates
19:23	Exio4	radius
19:23	Exio4	er
19:23	GassyBritish	I know
19:24	GassyBritish	My Laptop sucks so hard
19:24	Jordach	i know why vanessa doesnt get 60fps: she uses AMD
19:24	Pineapples	If you went 6000 nodes forward then looked backwards, you woul;d get
19:24	Pineapples	the full effect.
19:24	Menche	anyone know what this thread is about: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=100069
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19:24	Calinou	Pineapples, no
19:24	Calinou	you would have to do that so that all the terrain is generated
19:24	Calinou	anyway 6000 is useless, just use full range (R)...
19:25	Pineapples	Menche: What the heck? It makes no sense! It is a pointless thread!
19:25	* Menche	can't figure it out either
19:25	Menche	wait, it's about "using and exploitation of MineTest server and his MineTest client"
19:26	Menche	his? MineTest is male?
19:26	Pineapples	But what does this mean? Seeing as it doesn't appear to be related to the stuff in quote box.
19:26	Calinou	Minetest*
19:26	GassyBritish	How do I connect to this Irc chat on Hexchat?
19:26	Menche	/server chat.freenode.net
19:26	Menche	/join #minetest
19:27		Weedy_la1py joined #minetest
19:27	Jordach	Network List _> Scroll down to freenode -> edit -> nickserv password -> your irc password goes there -> add #minetest to favourites
19:27	ShadowNinja	pandaro: Try using a ';'instead if a ',' between the position and sczle for your radar images.
19:27	Jordach	make freenode automatic connection with hexchat on app start
19:27	* Calinou	is playing wolfgame
19:28	ShadowNinja	No, socket.send("JOIN #minetest"). ;-)
19:28	GassyBritish	Ok, I decided Hexchat is stupid and I will just stick to this instead
19:28	GCHQ	Emacs is the best IRC client :D
19:28	Menche	Emacs is also a great tetris game
19:28	ShadowNinja	No, netcat.
19:29	ShadowNinja	:-)
19:29	GCHQ	I don't like Emacs for Tetris to be honest
19:29	Jordach	GassyBritish, use this as an example@ http://i.imgur.com/cItCfcV.png
19:29	Pineapples	I keep thinking ShadowNinja is @ShadowBot
19:30	Pineapples	Just out of interest, is there any kind of /whisper or /message command for IRC?
19:31	Jordach	/msg nick message
19:31	GCHQ	Pineapples: /msg <name> <message>
19:31	GCHQ	If you register your nick with nickserv here, you can also use memoserv for offline messaging
19:31	Pineapples	I'll try it now.
19:31	pehjota	Menche: Re: "his? MineTest is male?", the OP is Romanian, and Romance languages give *everything* a gender.  So yes, in Romanian, Minetest is male.
19:31	pandaro	ShadowNinja I have already partially solved the problems of image definition. Now I tried to apply a world map as the background, but I have difficulty in finding points of reference between the map and the world of minetest
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19:32	Jordach	GassyBritish, it works
19:32		artur99 left #minetest
19:32	Jordach	now head into #freenode and ask for a cloak
19:32	GassyBritish	My chat thinky has a black bar now
19:32	GassyBritish	I hit a button
19:32	Jordach	you will get the cloak everytime you login (except webchat)
19:33		GassyBritish joined #minetest
19:33	Jordach	GassyBritish, any better?
19:33	GassyBritish	Hello
19:33	GassyBritish	Yes
19:33	Jordach	now /join #freenode and ask for a cloak
19:34	Jordach	with a please
19:34	GassyBritish	Do I have to ask every time
19:34	Jordach	GassyBritish, once you have it it's permanent
19:34	GassyBritish	Ok
19:34	Jordach	(can be removed, but you cant get it back.)
19:34	GassyBritish	What does coloured names mean?
19:35	Jordach	you appear red, everyone else is blue
19:35		Weedy joined #minetest
19:35	thexyz	Jordach: what does that "nolo" button do btw?
19:35	Jordach	thexyz, kicks anyone who says yolo
19:35	Menche	Jordach: you just said it!
19:35	Jordach	/kick abcdefg nolo
19:35	GassyBritish	You was green 2 mins ago but then turned blue
19:36	Jordach	GassyBritish, that's a highloght
19:36	Jordach	light*
19:36	Jordach	highlights are when someone says your name
19:36	Menche	xchat can make each person's name a different color
19:37	GassyBritish	Ok Jordach
19:37	GassyBritish	The people on Freenode are not answering me D:
19:37	Jordach	GassyBritish, think of this as group chats in MSN or FB or something
19:37	Jordach	GassyBritish, wait for them, one usually comes within the hour
19:37	Jordach	with twitter like #tags
19:37	Jordach	for topics
19:37	GassyBritish	They answered me instanly last time
19:38	GCHQ	Just be patient
19:38	Jordach	GassyBritish, people can be afk at times, like yourself
19:38	GCHQ	They sometimes take a while, but they get there
19:38	GassyBritish	Most of the staff dropped
19:38	Pineapples	Like I was AFK some minutes ago.
19:38	GassyBritish	What are green circles and blue circles and no circled ?
19:38	GassyBritish	*circles
19:39	Jordach	green circles are channel operators, they can kick people, ban them etc
19:39	Jordach	blue ones are voiced, it just highlights them out of a crowd usualyl
19:39	Jordach	lly*
19:39	GassyBritish	Voiced?
19:39	Jordach	say they might be a high ranking person
19:39	Jordach	but not enough for channel op
19:40	GCHQ	Channels can be set to "moderated" in which case only people with voice(or op) can talk
19:40	GassyBritish	Ok
19:40	Jordach	GassyBritish, /stats p in #freenode
19:40	GCHQ	But it's also used to indicate prestige
19:40	Pineapples	SO is it a bit like being a moderator on a server, without being admin?
19:40	GassyBritish	Doing /stats p  did nothing
19:41	Jordach	* p :0 staff members
19:41	Jordach	* p :End of /STATS report
19:41	Jordach	seems broken
19:41	GassyBritish	?
19:41	GassyBritish	Ok
19:41	Jordach	JamesTait, are you availible at this second?
19:41	pehjota	GassyBritish: The voice (+v) mode only has a real affect when the channel is moderated (+m, meaning only voiced nicks can send messages to the rest of the channel).
19:42	Calinou	voice also makes you look 20% cooler
19:42	pehjota	GassyBritish: Otherwise, it's often an indication of some kind of official position in the channel.
19:42	Jordach	PilzAdam, thanks: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=100244#p100244
19:42	* Jordach	highfives PilzAdam
19:43	GassyBritish	Ok Pehjota
19:43	* GassyBritish	Highfives Jordach
19:43	Jordach	:D
19:43	* Pineapples	highfives pears
19:44	GassyBritish	Just looked at /banlist
19:44	Jordach	hehe
19:44	JamesTait	Hi Jordach
19:44	GassyBritish	July 6th there was many bans within a short time (0 seconds)
19:45	Jordach	JamesTait, GassyBritish in #freenode is requesting a unaffiliated cloak
19:45	GCHQ	That's the server repopulating the ban list after an outage
19:45		Weedy_lappy joined #minetest
19:45	GassyBritish	Why are you saying that to JamesTait?
19:46	Jordach	because he's one of the freenode admins
19:46	GassyBritish	Ohh Ok
19:46	Jordach	/freenode/staff/JamesTai-t
19:46	Calinou	freenode staff!
19:46	Pineapples	Who was the account that posted porn? (Dan claims it isn't him, Jordach claims it is)
19:46	* Calinou	sings Richard Stallman's "Freenode Staff"
19:46	JamesTait	Im not in the best position to help right now, but I can pass on the request.
19:46	Jordach	^ GassyBritish
19:46	GassyBritish	Thanks JamesTait
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19:47	Jordach	#minetest unusally seems busy at this hout
19:47	Jordach	hour*
19:48	GassyBritish	I am still waiting for someone filling out my app on the forum to be my Youtube Partner yet nobody is interested
19:48	GassyBritish	*to fill out
19:49	Jordach	GassyBritish, ah, iirc (if i remember correctly) YT Partners need HUGE channels
19:49	Jordach	i'd start working with pure awesome content then some partnerships
19:50		Weedy joined #minetest
19:50	Jordach	once you get more than say, 1000 subs
19:50	GassyBritish	I mean somebody to play games with, I already have a ppartnership with Youtube and I am able to get a partnership with Socialblade if I want to
19:51	GassyBritish	Are any of you called "PlaystationTwist" on Youtube?
19:51	Calinou	no
19:51	Pineapples	No
19:52	GassyBritish	Well he just subscribed to me so I thought it maybe somebody on here
19:52	GassyBritish	Guess not then
19:52	iqualfragile	Calinou: rs made a song called freenode staff?
19:53	GassyBritish	OHH The guy saw that I commented on one of YogscastKims videos and liked a few of my videos and subbed, Nice :)
19:53	JamesTait	GassyBritish, passed your request on, as soon as someone is free it'll be looked at.
19:53	GassyBritish	Thanks
19:53	Calinou	iqualfragile, no
19:54	Jordach	(you are allowed to poke a staff member about this, irc messages can be read later on)
19:54	iqualfragile	phew… i realy hate his free software song, its horrible
19:54	Calinou	tip of the day: call freenode staff "ircops"
19:54	GassyBritish	Anyone want a link to my Minetest video I put out yesterday?
19:54	Pineapples	See you all soon guys.
19:55	pandaro	bye
19:55	GassyBritish	I did a Minetst video 3 months ago and recently it hit over 1k views also if you search Minetest on Google it is the 3rd result. So after that success I decided to do a new one
19:55	GassyBritish	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uph5Np4N7-E
19:56	JamesTait	I'm currently lying on my back, on the floor in my boys' room, trying to type on a tiny HTC Desire on-screen keyboard while my boys fall asleep.
19:56	Jordach	JamesTait, ugh, I really hate typing on smartphones
19:56	GassyBritish	How sweet of you :)
19:56	Jordach	that's why i like tablets
19:56	JamesTait	So not in a great position to be edpecially useful.
19:57	Calinou	+1 Jordach
19:57	JamesTait	Jordach +1
19:57	Jordach	tablets are for people like me: who have HUGE FINGERS
19:57	* Menche	prefers netbooks
19:57	Menche	physical keyboard FTW
19:57	Jordach	even the iPad i have misses my fingers at times
19:57	GassyBritish	I have big hands :P
19:57	GCHQ	How does the landrush box thingie work?
19:57	Jordach	+1 Menche
19:57	JamesTait	I prefer a good old-fashioned laptop.
19:58	Calinou	+1 Menche, but shitty battery life and slow CPUs
19:58	Calinou	and bad screens
19:58	Calinou	and 5400rpm HDDs
19:58	Jordach	JamesTait, i dont like laptops, my thumbs hit the touchpad and make me type in the wrong places
19:59	Menche	my netbook's touchpad has the mouse buttons on the SIDES rather than the BOTTOM
19:59	Menche	really annoying
19:59	JamesTait	I used to have that problem. Someone must have fixed it. ;)
19:59	Menche	playing minetest = impossible
19:59	Calinou	bottom for me
19:59		Pineapples joined #minetest
19:59	Menche	the newer acer netbooks have fixed that
19:59	Calinou	minetest runs at 20 FPS here anyway with min settings
19:59	Calinou	not that interesting compared to my desktop (60 everything maxed out)
20:00	Jordach	JamesTait, btw, 1995 mechanical keyboards are awesome - the sound of typing is now nice for me to hear
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20:01	Menche	i prefer the kind of keyboard with completely separate, very low keys, most commonly on laptops
20:01	Calinou	low keys are less comfortable over time than "deep" keys
20:01	GassyBritish	Chatting on here while having a Austin Powers related chat with Dr_Evil on Freenode
20:01	Menche	easiest to type fast
20:01	Calinou	GassyBritish, s/austin powers/MLP
20:01	Calinou	:>
20:02	GassyBritish	?
20:02	Jordach	http://24.media.tumblr.com/50681a805561cd8fd0e0391a9de24467/tumblr_menghmmr3I1qbvaf3o1_500.gif
20:02	Jordach	GassyBritish, DONT google IT
20:02	GassyBritish	Proberly some Fanfic
20:02	Jordach	</warning_horn>
20:02	Jordach	burn
20:02	Calinou	with secondary flamer
20:02	GassyBritish	I am tempted to google it
20:03	GassyBritish	I will google it on my phone
20:03	Calinou	seems legit
20:03	Jordach	GassyBritish, i think a staff member is about
20:03	GassyBritish	no results
20:03	Jordach	ask for unaffiliated cloak again
20:03	Jordach	in chat
20:04	Jordach	atta boy
20:04	GassyBritish	Jordach , How old are you?
20:04	Jordach	17
20:05	Jordach	one old minetest member, but the youngest of old minetesters
20:05	GassyBritish	And how old am I?
20:05	Jordach	15/16
20:05	GassyBritish	16
20:05	Jordach	close 'nuff
20:05	NekoGloopMkII	And how old am I?
20:05	GassyBritish	12
20:06	NekoGloopMkII	13
20:06	GassyBritish	Close 'nuff
20:07	GassyBritish	Nobody is helping me on Freenode yet :(
20:08	Calinou	be patient
20:08	NekoGloopMkII	maybe they don't like you? :D
20:08	Jordach	GassyBritish, i HL'd staff
20:08		Weedy_la1py joined #minetest
20:09	GassyBritish	And hl'd meaning
20:09	STHGOM	bye
20:09	Jordach	highlighted
20:09	Jordach	eg, green text
20:09	GassyBritish	Bye Stghom
20:09	GassyBritish	Ok
20:10	GassyBritish	Yeah
20:11	* GassyBritish	Looks around wondering what everbody is doing
20:11	PilzAdam	reading your message
20:11	Jordach	PilzAdam, :D
20:12	GassyBritish	Hello PilzAda,
20:12	Calinou	GassyBritish, playing wolfgame
20:12	GassyBritish	*m
20:12	PilzAdam	Calinou, wofflegame?!
20:12	Calinou	yeah
20:12	GassyBritish	Waffle Simulator 2013
20:13	PilzAdam	Calinou, kill everyone fast, I wanna play :-p
20:13	Calinou	I'm drunk :P
20:13	GassyBritish	Calinou go home your drunk
20:13	* Calinou	drives
20:13	PilzAdam	GassyBritish, no, drunk leads
20:13	PilzAdam	drunk shouldnt go home
20:14	PilzAdam	also harlot shouldnt visit drunk after hes reveald, to not risk a doublekill
20:14	Jordach	whats wolfgame
20:14	* GassyBritish	Takes his car keys to stop him from driving (No 10-55's on my watch)
20:14	Calinou	Jordach, #wolfgame -- read the topic :)
20:14	Pineapples	Are there any ready-compiled Minetests for Kubuntu that aren't version 0.3.1?
20:15	NekoGloopMkII	Not for you.
20:15	PilzAdam	Pineapples, yes
20:15	Calinou	Pineapples, there is
20:15	PilzAdam	PilzAdam, theres are PPA, see minetest.net/downloads
20:15	Jordach	Calinou, is the game chat based
20:15	PilzAdam	Pineapples*
20:15	Calinou	yes
20:15	Calinou	it's kinda luck based too
20:15	Pineapples	Errm?
20:15	GassyBritish	PilzAdam , Responding to yourself (Go home your drunk)
20:15	Pineapples	They all looked like I need to compile them.
20:16	iqualfragile	oh, wow, oven 1000 views on a minetest video?
20:16	Jordach	anyways, im off to beds
20:16	Calinou	meanwhile: "get lucky" has several millions of views
20:17	GassyBritish	iqualfragile, I put up a Minetest video 3 months ago and it has over 1k views and is the 3rd result when you search "Minetest" on Google so yeahhhh, I win XD
20:17	PilzAdam	Pineapples, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install minetestc55
20:17	GassyBritish	Cya Jordach
20:18	GassyBritish	iqualfragile, How many subs you got?
20:18	Calinou	startpage/ixquick > google
20:18	GassyBritish	?
20:18	PilzAdam	^
20:18	PilzAdam	inb4 startmail beta
20:19	pehjota	Calinou: Yes.
20:19	* GassyBritish	*Diary* Day 430 of waiting on the Freenode channel for a cloak
20:21	* GassyBritish	Is bored due to everybody dieing in chat
20:22		GassyBritish joined #minetest
20:23	pehjota	GassyBritish: There you go. ^ :)
20:23	JamesTait	Done!
20:23	GassyBritish	Do I just reconnect now?
20:23	pehjota	GassyBritish: Nope, you're cloaked.
20:24	GassyBritish	I mean to see if it works
20:24	GassyBritish	Reconnecting
20:24	pehjota	GassyBritish (~GassyBritcpc5-newt32-2-0-cust657.newt.cable.virginmedia.com) has quit (Changing host)
20:24	pehjota	GassyBritish (~GassyBritunaffiliated/gassybritish) has joined #minetest
20:24	GassyBritish	Ohh
20:24	GassyBritish	Ok
20:24	* JamesTait	vanishes
20:24	GassyBritish	I like how it says my network
20:24	GassyBritish	What does everything it say mean?
20:25	pehjota	GassyBritish: As long as you identify to NickServ, you'll always be cloaked now.
20:25	GassyBritish	pehjota, Are you a Freenode Admin?
20:25	pehjota	GassyBritish: cpc5-newt32-2-0-cust657.newt.cable.virginmedia.com is the PTR (reverse DNS) record for your IP address; it's whatever your ISP set it to.
20:25	Exio4	he just read the FAQ.
20:25	pehjota	GassyBritish: No, I'm not.
20:26	pehjota	Exio4: There's an FAQ? :)
20:26	GassyBritish	So using that could you find someones Ip address?
20:27	pehjota	GassyBritish: Yes, it resolves back to an A (address) record.
20:27	Exio4	http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
20:27	GassyBritish	So why bother being cloaked?
20:27	pehjota	Exio4: I was kidding; I just know this from experience.
20:27	pehjota	GassyBritish: The cloak is now hiding that hostmask.
20:28	GassyBritish	?
20:28	GassyBritish	Ok
20:28	pehjota	Your hostmask is now "unaffiliated/gassybritish".
20:28	GassyBritish	How do you know?
20:28	Ego	Use /whois nickhere
20:28	pehjota	Before, the hostmask was your PTR record (based on your IP address).  Now it's a cloak.
20:28	GassyBritish	Ohhh Ok
20:29	pehjota	GassyBritish: I know because of the join message in the channel.  Also, yeah, it can be found with your IRC client's "/whois" command.
20:29	GassyBritish	It this says my ip under /whois gassybritish
20:29	GassyBritish	*It still says
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20:30	Ego	It only says it for you and opers, though.
20:30	Ego	For anyone else it just says:
20:30	Ego	┌-—-—-Whois(GassyBritish)............
20:30	Ego	| Address: ~GassyBritunaffiliated/gassybritish
20:30	pehjota	GassyBritish: You mean "is connecting from <your-address>"?  That's only shown to you.
20:30	GassyBritish	Ok
20:30	iqualfragile	GassyBritish: i do not have any buissenes with google.
20:31	GassyBritish	When I joined did it say GassyBritishunaffiliated/gassybritish ?
20:31	Pineapples	Tried to compile Minetest in Kubuntu and it worked fine. However I got 1 FPS max. In Windows it runs way faster. Help?
20:31	pehjota	16:30:26 --> GassyBritish (~GassyBritunaffiliated/gassybritish) has joined #minetest
20:31	GassyBritish	21:31 Here :)
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20:32	Pineapples	21:32 here
20:32	GassyBritish	9:32 pm here
20:32	iqualfragile	22:30
20:32	GassyBritish	Iqualfragile How many subs you got on Youtube?
20:32	Calinou	Pineapples, what is your graphics card?
20:32	iqualfragile	as i said: i have no kind of buissenes with google.
20:32	Calinou	lspci | grep VGA
20:32	Calinou	will tell you
20:33	iqualfragile	& whats your driver? try lsmod for that
20:33	Calinou	might want to use the proprietary driver, and disable desktop effects (in both Oses)
20:33	Calinou	OSes*
20:33	iqualfragile	additionaly it might be smart to play fullscreen as this is faster some times
20:34	GassyBritish	Iqualgragile , You said you had a Minetest video with over 1k views but now you say you dont have a Youtube
20:34	iqualfragile	nope, read again
20:34	GassyBritish	Ohh
20:35	GassyBritish	Why where you responding so rudely in the first place to what I said about me getting that
20:35	iqualfragile	rudely? i was suprized as the most views i have seen on a minetest video were somewhere around 200
20:35	GassyBritish	Ohh
20:36	GassyBritish	Sorry I read it as being a rude tone
20:36	GassyBritish	I only have 74 subs :)
20:36	GassyBritish	http://youtube.com/GassyBritish
20:36	Pineapples	I have... 3 SUBS!
20:36	GassyBritish	Lol
20:37	GassyBritish	Pineapples how old are you?
20:37	Pineapples	14
20:37	Menche	lol, Jordach fan thread: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=100125
20:37	GassyBritish	How often are you on your Pc?
20:37	Pineapples	Who?
20:37	GassyBritish	You
20:38	Pineapples	In the holidays almost all of the British daytime and some of the night
20:38	GassyBritish	Wanna dual-com some time maybe?
20:38	Pineapples	Not to sound stupid, but what is 'dual-com'?
20:39	GassyBritish	Dual-Commentary
20:39	Pineapples	You mean on  a video,I take it?
20:39	GassyBritish	"I take it" ?
20:39	Pineapples	How could weboth do commentary?
20:40	GassyBritish	Yes
20:40	Pineapples	Would the vid be on Minetest?
20:40	GassyBritish	2 people play and game and it gets recorded (Dual com)
20:40	GassyBritish	Proberly
20:40	Pineapples	Minetest is probabl the only game I can recore
20:40	Pineapples	d on because of a slow pc :p
20:41	GassyBritish	Yeah Dxtory kills my Pc on every game so I am now recording using Camtasia :) (It is £150+)
20:41	GassyBritish	I have a Intel Pentium Laptop
20:41	Calinou	doesn't mean anything®
20:42	Pineapples	I use Debut. The only problem is I can't get rid of the mouse from the video.
20:42	Calinou	but you probably have an IGP, so yeah
20:42	Pineapples	I have a netbook with:
20:42	Pineapples	2gb ram, 1.6ghz processor, Using the Windows OS when gaming.
20:42	Calinou	read: atom
20:42	* Calinou	taunts with sniper
20:43	GassyBritish	2.3ghz dual-core , 3gb ram , 250gb hard-disk , Mobile intel family chipset
20:43	Pineapples	'Intel ATOM inside' it says on the label
20:43	Calinou	chipset doesn't do performance
20:43	Calinou	Pineapples, yes, these insanely slow CPUs and GPUs everyone hates
20:43	Pineapples	It is normally quick enough
20:43	Pineapples	But still is really slow
20:44	GassyBritish	I can play Gmod on my Laptop on Gm_Flatgrass I get between 10-40 fps
20:44	Exio4	those are good for optimizing though
20:44	Ego	Can I spawn creatures?
20:44	GassyBritish	I can't even play Oblivion goty deluxe on low with lag
20:44	Exio4	as a sqrt(x*x+y*y+z*z) takes about 20ms in my netbook :>
20:44	Pineapples	I normally get 10 fps on Minetest, default texture pack, around 20 mods.
20:45	iqualfragile	GassyBritish: watching your video right now: you might want to point out that its not just free as in "no need to pay for" but allso free as in freedom
20:45	GassyBritish	I get higher Fps on Minecraft with optifine (at times) than I do on Minetest
20:45	GassyBritish	Ok
20:45	Pineapples	I can ony run Minecraft on superflat.
20:45	iqualfragile	i.e.: you can modify and redistribute it (allmost) to your liking
20:45	Pineapples	Tekkit classic runs quicker than 1.6 vanilla Minecraft
20:45	GassyBritish	Who is the developer of the Helicopter mod for Minetest?
20:46	iqualfragile	look it up in the forums
20:46	iqualfragile	http://forum.minetest.net/
20:46	GassyBritish	I was just wondering if they where in Irc
20:46	GassyBritish	It is a good mod but the movement is stuttery
20:46	Pineapples	Pavel_S made it
20:46	iqualfragile	if he is he might be looking at your message in about 5 hours
20:47	Pineapples	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6183 Link to the Heli Mod Thread
20:47	Calinou	<GassyBritish> I get higher Fps on Minecraft with optifine (at times) than I do on Minetest
20:48	Calinou	minetest has infinite-ish world height and a more advanced engine
20:48	Calinou	also, try disabling shaders, fancy trees and all that
20:48	Calinou	shaders are quite expensive on poor GPUs
20:48	GassyBritish	Ok 1 min I will try
20:48	Pineapples	I disable everything on Minetest and I still get 1 fps in Kubuntu (ont he netbook)
20:49	Calinou	you're not using a proper driver then
20:49	Menche	Kubuntu = KDE = your problem
20:49	Calinou	(or, maybe intel doesn't provide any driver for it, they do that for older atoms)
20:49	Calinou	KDE is slow at gaming when you use effects, too (non-fullscreen)
20:49	Pineapples	How do I do it then (it runs fine in Windows)
20:49	Calinou	fullscreen on linux is very sloppy, I prefer using xfce's fake fullscreen (alt+F11"
20:49	Calinou	awesome feature; it makes any application able to be fullscreen'd
20:49	Exio4	using kubuntu in a netbook
20:49	Calinou	Pineapples, nothing to do probably
20:50	Calinou	if intel doesn't provide a driver for it
20:50	Calinou	Exio4, he would probably get more than 1 FPS
20:50	GassyBritish	23 fps before now I have 50 fps. THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!
20:50	Exio4	Calinou: kde + ubuntu
20:50	GassyBritish	20-50 is my range now
20:50	Exio4	lots of daemon, bluetooth shit and so that he doesn't use with a full & userfriendly interface
20:50	Calinou	GassyBritish, yeah, also, disable desktop effects (if you're on windows 7 or vista)
20:50	Pineapples	HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Disabled everything and Minetest runs fine now! I love you all!
20:51	Calinou	on windows 8 it looks like you can't do that
20:51	Calinou	(only solution, play fullscreen)
20:51	Exio4	windows8 sucks though
20:51	* Pineapples	hugs every person on the forums, IRC and the game.
20:51	Calinou	it's decent
20:51	Calinou	even without ClassicShell
20:51	Calinou	with ClassicShell it's better than windows 7
20:51	Exio4	it is "k" like all the windows
20:51	Calinou	it's less bad than people might say
20:51	Calinou	used it a few days ago
20:51	GassyBritish	Turning off smooth lighting makes my fps like a constant 30+
20:52	Exio4	same here, the 8/7 :P
20:52	Exio4	GassyBritish: did you compile it
20:52	Calinou	so Pineapples is hugging everything, from ponies to mese pickaxes :>
20:52	GassyBritish	?
20:52	Calinou	GassyBritish, it can cause a FPS loss on some poor GPUs
20:52	Exio4	try using -Ofast -march=native when compiling
20:52	* Pineapples	agrees with Calinou
20:52	Calinou	Exio4, he is on windows, iirc
20:52	Exio4	ah
20:52	Exio4	that sucks
20:52	Menche	isn't -Ofast dangerous? i though that -O2 was the highest safe value
20:53	Pineapples	Is there a command to update Minetest to latest stable on Kubuntu? (For when 0.4.8 comes out)
20:53	Exio4	-Ofast is -O3 + removing fpu safety checks
20:53	Calinou	-O3 isn't always useful
20:53	Calinou	but -O2 is a million times better than -O0, which isn't the default anyway :P
20:53	Menche	i've heard that -O3 can actually hurt performance sometimes
20:53	Calinou	Pineapples, use the stable PPA
20:53	Calinou	it can
20:53	Pineapples	But how do I do it?
20:54	Menche	minetest uses -O3 by default
20:54	GassyBritish	My Fps is great now that I turned shaders and smooth lighting off
20:54	Exio4	Menche: it is dangerous for "programs" that need "float safety" lets say :P
20:54	Exio4	i'm leaving now
20:55	Menche	lol, someone on the forums asked if Debian is still actively maintained
20:55	GassyBritish	So anyone else other than Pineapples want to Dual-commentate on Youtube with me for Youtube some time?
20:55	GassyBritish	Cya Exio4
20:55	Pineapples	I will be AFK for a bit.
20:56	GassyBritish	Same
20:56	Exio4	fail
20:56	Exio4	read the hour wrong
20:56	Exio4	sorry ;P
20:56	GassyBritish	Lol
20:59	Exio4	Menche: in any case, for real optimizing i would use -O2 as base and enable optimizations that may "affect" the performance without crashing
21:00	Menche	is there a good way to gauge minetest performance?
21:00	Pineapples	DanDuncombe has apologised for being a stupid huy on his forum post (I keep a watchful eye out for new posts)
21:00	Pineapples	*guy
21:00	* GassyBritish	Suspects Pinapples
21:01	Exio4	you're him though
21:01	* GassyBritish	Is Still AFK
21:01	GassyBritish	^
21:01	Exio4	Menche: timetaker inside code?
21:01	* Menche	thought that Pineapples was DanDuncombe
21:01	GassyBritish	^
21:01	Exio4	Menche: he is :P
21:01	GassyBritish	Yes is
21:01	* Pineapples	asks if this can possibly be true
21:02	* Menche	asks if this could not be true
21:02	Menche	you have the same IP
21:02	* Pineapples	admits it. He is sad and goes and sits on the naughty step.
21:02	Exio4	see
21:03	* Pineapples	shall now go and log on as his true self. He may use his Pineapples account for general stuff though anyway.
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21:04	DanDuncombe	All has been revealed.
21:04	DanDuncombe	I am really sorry that I ragequitted.
21:04	DanDuncombe	I was being a bit of an ass.
21:05	* DanDuncombe	hugs Jordach
21:05	* DanDuncombe	hugs anyone else he offended
21:05	DanDuncombe	SO SORRY!
21:06	GassyBritish	You was just turning your topic into a arguement section
21:06	* GassyBritish	Is Still Afk
21:06	DanDuncombe	BTW, where is the mods folder, having installed Minetest using the command that someone told me earlier today.
21:07	DanDuncombe	In Kubuntu, that is
21:08	DanDuncombe	I only have the cache and world folders
21:08	DanDuncombe	and the Minetest.conf
21:11	Menche	you installed from the PPA?
21:11	* GassyBritish	Is No Longer Afk
21:12	Menche	DanDuncombe: create minetest.conf and mods/ in ~/.minetest
21:12	Menche	that is, a folder named '.minetest' in your home folder
21:12	DanDuncombe	Oh yes, I found the .minetest folder
21:12	Menche	press CTRL-H in most file managers to show folders that begin with a dot
21:12	Menche	the mods/ folder may not exist, create it if it doesn't
21:12	DanDuncombe	So I can just make a 'mods' folder?
21:13	Menche	yeah
21:13	Menche	inside .minetest/
21:13	DanDuncombe	Also the bin folder doesn't seem to exist, so how do I view screenshots?
21:13	Menche	screenshots are put in your working directory
21:13	DanDuncombe	What do you mean, working directory?
21:13	Menche	so, if you launch mintest from a menu, they will probably be put right in your home folder
21:13	Menche	^
21:14	Menche	should be your home folder if you launch minetest from the menu
21:14	DanDuncombe	Not in home folder...
21:14	GassyBritish	Windows is sooooo much easiar than Linux (I know as I have Weezy on my Raspberry Pi) (Although Linux is more fun cuz you have to use the Terminal)
21:15	* Menche	disagrees
21:15	GassyBritish	Windows you only have to click
21:16	Menche	and if you have one of the more beginner-oriented distros like a *buntu, you don't *have* to use the terminal
21:16	Menche	and really, for some tasks the terminal is easier than the point-and-click method
21:16	GassyBritish	Linux you  have to use the terminal to run stufff e.g Minecraft Pi Edition - cd /home/pi/Desktop/mcpi    ./minecraft-pi
21:17	DanDuncombe	I want to see my Minetest Screenshots!
21:17	Menche	GassyBritish, how is that harder?
21:17	sokomine	they're usually in the bin-folder (at least with run in place)
21:18	GassyBritish	You have to remember it and it is case sensitive
21:18	NekoGloopMkII	Personally the only thing keeping me from linux is the fact that a lot of stuff is developed for windows only, and there's no guarantee that wine will always work.
21:18	GassyBritish	The only time I have used a Linux based os is on my Raspberry Pi
21:19	GassyBritish	NekoGloopMkII , I would try Linux but my reasons are the same as yours
21:19	* Menche	has a windows installation he boots into, oh, maybe every other month or so
21:21	DanDuncombe	How do I change my nick?
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21:21	GassyBritish	Do /nick
21:22	GassyBritish	Is_s ?
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21:22	GassyBritish	Lol
21:22	DanDuncombe	it was meant to be 'is_sorry_for_being_stupid_earlier
21:23	GassyBritish	For some reason /nick for me does not work
21:23	GassyBritish	Ohh it does
21:24	GassyBritish	It does work I guess the name I was trying was too long
21:24	DanDuncombe|not_	Dammit! Letter number limit
21:24	GassyBritish	It does not even say the limit or show anything when you go voer the limit
21:25	GassyBritish	*ove
21:25	GassyBritish	*over
21:25	GassyBritish	Instead of doing /nick you can just click your name to the left of the chatbox on Hexchat
21:25	GassyBritish	Derp
21:26	DanDuncombe	The limit appears to be 16 letters (I changed my name to count letters)
21:26	GassyBritish1234	yes, Confimed
21:26	DanDuncombe	Seriously, I am sorry for being a dick earlier today,
21:27	GassyBritish	You was upset, We understand
21:27	DanDuncombe	I am sorry NekoGloop
21:28	DanDuncombe	I RAGEQUITTED!  |:(
21:29	GassyBritish	Dan I thought you was only allowed to go on your computer for 1 hour per day
21:29	DanDuncombe	I go on it for longer anyway
21:29	NekoGloop	Just get the fuck out of here.
21:29	DanDuncombe	Nope
21:30	DanDuncombe	Is there an ignore command?
21:31	khonkhortisan	YOU RAGEQUIT! >:(
21:31	NekoGloop	DanDuncombe, /part
21:32	khonkhortisan	/part set ignore all
21:32	DanDuncombe	Okay, just wonderin'
21:32	DanDuncombe	And NekoGloop, I really am sorry.
21:35	GassyBritish	I have someone interested in becoming my Youtube recording partner
21:35	DanDuncombe	Oh and by the way, I still stand by the fact that I DIDN'T post porn. Pleaserealise this.
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21:36	GassyBritish	Hello Guest97263 Aka Weedy_Lappy
21:37	DanDuncombe	I will probably not be able to do Minetest commentary with GassyBritish. Soz.
21:37	GassyBritish	Ok
21:37	GassyBritish	Like I said some other guy has said it can, I am yet to talk to him (We will talk tomoz)
21:37	GassyBritish	*he
21:38	DanDuncombe	Is it hoodedice?
21:38	GassyBritish	Yes
21:38	DanDuncombe	I saw his post.
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21:39	GassyBritish	Jordach whent offline but yet is still on the forums typing :)
21:41	DanDuncombe	I still can't work out how to get to the Minetest game folder, or bin folder, or any of that.
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21:42	GassyBritish	Do you really need to get to it? I thought you was only trying to get to it so you can get to your screenshots
21:42	DanDuncombe	I need  it to install other gamemodes
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21:43	GassyBritish	At least you have default
21:43	DanDuncombe	I tried making a folder called 'games' but nothing appeared in it when I played Minetest.
21:43	GassyBritish	Thats the only Gamemode I use (I have used the Minecraft gamemode in the past)
21:44	GassyBritish	Should it not automatically create a game folder?
21:44	GassyBritish	*games
21:44	DanDuncombe	It probably does but idk where
21:45	GassyBritish	WTF did I just watch
21:45	GassyBritish	colour changing phone
21:46	GassyBritish	Anywayssssss..... It time to hit the old Youtube
21:46	PilzAdam	GassyBritish, simple answer: coldmirror
21:46	GassyBritish	Ok
21:46	GassyBritish	It has a German description
21:46	GassyBritish	Anyways time to go watch Youtube all night :)
21:47	GassyBritish	Bye guys (and Dan XD)
21:47	* GassyBritish	Was expecting people to say bye but was wrong
21:47	* DanDuncombe	says bye
21:52	PilzAdam	DanDuncombe, why do you PM me?
21:52	DanDuncombe	To make sure you noticed it and it didn't go unnoticed
21:54	hmmmm	do you realize that when you give unsolicited PMs to people it makes them more inclined to ignore you?
21:54	DanDuncombe	Oh, sorry.
21:55	DanDuncombe	I shall say it out loud: How do I get to the default minetest_game when there is no 'games' folder?
21:55	hmmmm	and for a general support question yet
21:55	hmmmm	jeez
21:58	DanDuncombe	Is there an answer?
21:59	NekoGloop	No
21:59	DanDuncombe	Oh well.
22:00	PilzAdam	create the folder?
22:02	DanDuncombe	I have, and can add gamemodes, just can't access the default minetest_game.
22:02	DanDuncombe	I can play the default game in minetest, just cannot find the files.
22:05	PilzAdam	how have you installed Minetest?
22:07	DanDuncombe	I used the command to install it that someone told me earlier
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22:07	PilzAdam	is that someone me=
22:07	PilzAdam	*?
22:07	DanDuncombe	I think so, yes
22:08	Exio4	so you run commands without knowing what they even do
22:08	DanDuncombe	Yep.Although it was kind of obvious what it did.
22:08	DanDuncombe	it was basically "Sudo. Please install and update Minetest C55 for me."
22:10	PilzAdam	DanDuncombe, look in /usr/share/minetest/
22:10	Exio4	remove c55
22:10	Exio4	;P
22:11	DanDuncombe	Well, well, well. Thanks PilzAdam! Found it all!
22:11	PilzAdam	john_minetest, lol
22:11	Exio4	xD
22:12	PilzAdam	and the wifi unicorn gets unhappy in this case
22:13	Exio4	are you all that evil community
22:13	Exio4	?
22:15	arsdragonfly	john_minetest epic troll :-P
22:16	arsdragonfly	btw dunno if linux has a registry
22:16	hmmmm	gconf is as close as it gets to a registry
22:19	* arsdragonfly	heard that putting boiling water under the light helps
22:20	Ego	The best way to make sure there are no bugs in your house...
22:20	Ego	is to burn your house down.
22:26	sokomine	is there something like registered_items for aliases?
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22:26	* sokomine	gives exo some anti-insect-meshes for windows and thus saves the house
22:27	PilzAdam	sokomine, no
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22:27	Exio4	Pony Vaio
22:27	Exio4	lol
22:28	sokomine	pilzadam: hm. impractical. how am i to determine if something exists?
22:28	Ego	I want PilzAdam to fix this mod for me. ;-;
22:28	Ego	Trixie[21?]'s mod =P
22:28	PilzAdam	sokomine, get the id from the alias and get the name from the id
22:31	sokomine	sounds complicated :-( but i found another way. i can construct the right itemname right away...
22:35	PilzAdam	sokomine, maybe ItemStack("alias"):get_name() works
22:37	PilzAdam	sokomine, yep, print(ItemStack("mapgen_stone"):get_name()) -> "default:stone"
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22:39	sokomine	for that, i'd need the itemstack first. but i don't have it. what i need to decide there is weather i can offer that node in that color or not. but it works now...i can create the original nodenames instead of the aliased names for a start - and that gives me the necessary data
22:39	PilzAdam	you can simply create an itemstack
22:39	PilzAdam	thats what the line does
22:39	PilzAdam	you can copy it as it is into a mod and it works
22:40	sokomine	should any modders accidently get murdered by me for using inconsitent names for colors...well...please just walk on :-)
22:41	sokomine	oh? and randomly creating itemstacks is no problem in mt?
22:41	PilzAdam	of course not
22:41	PilzAdam	why would you think that?
22:41	sokomine	no idea how "expensive" it is
22:42	PilzAdam	you basically create a small c++ object, not expensive at all
22:42	sokomine	it would be great if you could document that solution somewhere so that it can be found when needed again
22:42	PilzAdam	sokomine, already done
22:42	PilzAdam	and... OO dat netsplit
22:42	PilzAdam	!op
22:44	sokomine	i'm working on a color machine. still something to do there (especially consuming the colors). and the diffrent, inconsistent names for colors are pretty annoying
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22:44	sokomine	severe netsplit?
22:45	Exio4	yay
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22:45	PilzAdam	Exio4, wb
22:46	ShadowNinja	sokomine: No, only for their side...
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22:49	Exio4	wb for you PilzAdam, you were the one who left here!
22:49	Exio4	ShadowNinja: i love how irc works
22:50	PilzAdam	!deop
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23:04	Exio4	what is the minium version of opengl that MT/Irrlicht needs to run?
23:05	kahrl	0
23:05	kahrl	video_driver = software :P
23:05	Exio4	ew
23:06	Exio4	i mean, with the opengl driver
23:06	arsdragonfly	it worked on an intel 845g crap
23:06	arsdragonfly	opengl 1.2
23:06	Exio4	perfect, thanks
23:06	Exio4	so http://chromium.sourceforge.net/ may work
23:07	PilzAdam	kahrl, nope, it segfaults directly when using software video_driver
23:07	Exio4	i always use the other software renderer
23:08	Exio4	bursomethingvideo
23:08	Exio4	well, i normally use opengl, but if i use the software renderer.. ;P
23:08	arsdragonfly	burningsvideo burns CPU :-P
23:08	PilzAdam	someone interested in a backtrace?
23:08	Exio4	PilzAdam: of course!
23:08	kahrl	PilzAdam: huh, well it works here, although it looks glitchy
23:09	Exio4	looks like shit and glitched like hell but works here too
23:09	Exio4	tested right now
23:09	PilzAdam	https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/6016059
23:09	kahrl	maybe we could add a third software renderer using the raytracer I just implemented :D
23:10	Exio4	haha
23:11	PilzAdam	burningsvideo is really glitch and uses a trilinear filter
23:11	PilzAdam	and ~30 FPS
23:11	PilzAdam	and water looks like ice
23:11	PilzAdam	thats actually pretty cool
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23:13	Yrol_Denjeah	Greetings :o)
23:13	PilzAdam	http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/152/Burningsvideo.png
23:13	PilzAdam	oh, and it also uses kahrl's improved [inventorycube branch
23:15	Exio4	lol
23:29	Exio4	i want a multi-processor mobo :(
23:34	Yrol_Denjeah	What happpened to peace on earth?
23:35	Yrol_Denjeah	How do i get rid of this error "PNG warning: interlace handling should be truned on when using png_read_image"?
23:37	kahrl	you can't
23:37	Yrol_Denjeah	aw man!
23:37	kahrl	it's also harmless
23:37	Yrol_Denjeah	okok, its just a warning... still
23:38	Exio4	;_;
23:39	PilzAdam	http://youtu.be/ND2OSX00nZs
23:41	Exio4	In some applications, particularly compilers and some distributed computing projects, one will see an improvement by a factor of (nearly) the number of additional processors.
23:43	Yrol_Denjeah	PilzAdam, hi, how do i solve the error that comes up when using your fire mod? ( ACTION[main]: WARNING: Mod name conflict detected: "fire")
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23:44	Exio4	damnit
23:44	Exio4	i just realized i fell into wikipedia
23:44	Exio4	when you start following links, and so.. :(
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23:47	yrol2	hmpf
23:49	PilzAdam	yrol2, my fire mod?
23:49	yrol2	PilzAdam, yes
23:49	yrol2	nick /Yrol_Denjeah
23:49	PilzAdam	I dont have a fire mod......
23:50	Yrol_Denjeah	hm, weird
23:50	Yrol_Denjeah	oh, sorry,. its from neko259
23:50	PilzAdam	there is only 1 fire mod, and that is in minetest_game, so no need to install an extra fire mod
23:50	PilzAdam	can you link it?
23:50	Yrol_Denjeah	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=745
23:52	Yrol_Denjeah	I thought about changing the original mod, but.. then other mods using that wont work i guess
23:52	PilzAdam	dont use neko's mod, its really outdated
23:52	PilzAdam	thats why it is in "Old mods"
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23:52	Yrol_Denjeah	PilzAdam, hm, but then there are no spreading treefires, right?
23:53	PilzAdam	of course there are
23:53	Yrol_Denjeah	oh
23:53	Yrol_Denjeah	another one of those cases where an old mod is included in vanilla then i suppose
23:53	PilzAdam	yep
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23:58	Yrol_Denjeah	Often i am confused by the debug.txt, as an example, when using your (simple)mob mod, i get a "could not open file of texture: sheep.png", yet that only appears in the uhm... command console thats running alongside of the main priogram, it doesnt appear in the debug.txt and that texture doesnt actually exist at all.
23:59	PilzAdam	thats normal
23:59	PilzAdam	dunno about that
23:59	Yrol_Denjeah	hm
23:59	Yrol_Denjeah	So we cannot actually trust the debug log, or the console window?

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