IRC log for #minetest, 2013-07-10

Time	Nick	Message
00:00	LazyJ	I figured changing some aliases would correct that.
00:00	sokomine	yes, that's stairsplus/moreblocks-related. there was a time when that caused some trouble. my circular saw got included, then 6d facedir came up, some due to that new option now surplus (mirrored/rotated) shapes got dropped; one or two days later, there was a method of transition for old blocks developed
00:00	LazyJ	The old world was 2.2gb
00:01	sokomine	that is small compared to redcrabs world. i don't know how large the other ones are
00:01	sokomine	having a program that rewrites the coordinates (indices) of old maps to include them in new maps would be fine
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00:43	PilzAdam	bye
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01:54	NekoGloop	What is a man?!
02:00	ungali	indeed
02:05	bas080	NekoGloop, a man is someone that takes responsibility for his actions. Atleast that's what i was thought.
02:06	NekoGloop	A man is a miserable little pile of secrets!
02:06	bas080	maybe that;s the secret to being a man. Not having to hide your secrets
02:07	sokomine	an alien: http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/71/screenshot_3327023902.png
02:07	sokomine	exterminate!
02:07	bas080	whut???
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02:08	bas080	where did you find this?
02:08	sokomine	the alien? :-)
02:08	bas080	yes
02:09	sokomine	hint: it's "head" is rotating
02:09	bas080	the shape is very irregular.
02:09	bas080	Is it a mod your working on?
02:09	Menche	looks like dropped desert stone items
02:10	Menche	well, the red part
02:10	sokomine	no, it's a bug. a bug that causes a lot of framerate drop in the long run :-(
02:10	bas080	nice
02:10	bas080	i mean, no that's bad
02:10	Menche	minetest's AWESOME handling of entities
02:11	sokomine	actually, the bottom of the "alien" are homedecor table stands. the top is desert sandstone. all dropped items - duplicated due to a bug (no, certainly not homedecors' fault - it just looks funny in this combination)
02:11	bas080	is that sarcasm? Atleast you noticed that it's a feature
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04:14	hdastwb	Menche, do you have any idea what's up with the buckets on your server?
04:38	VanessaE	bbl
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04:50	Eli__	Hi
04:50	Eli__	Any1 ther
04:50	Eli__	Any1 there
04:52	marktraceur	Yes.
05:01	ShadowNinja	Oh, only 70...
05:02	ShadowNinja	(-bots)
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07:42	Calinou	the server list is still a bit broken
07:43	Calinou	no flags, no player count, no background, no selection highlight, list goes to bottom when clicking a server
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08:49	JamesTait	Good morning all, happy Don't Step On A Bee Day! :-D
08:51	* Calinou	steps on a bee
08:51	Calinou	bee says "hax"
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09:13	Calinou	lol
09:13	Calinou	a spambot reported the first post of "Post your screenshots" and spammed in that report
09:13	Calinou	hi Taoki
09:13	Taoki	hi
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10:55	VanessaE	good morning all.
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11:04	Taoki	hi
11:04	Taoki	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=98955 This was surely though of in the past, but I hope someone can take a look at the idea sometime
11:05	VanessaE	Taoki: good luck with that...
11:06	Taoki	I doubt I'm one to even go in something that advanced :P But I know it should be possible at least
11:06	Zeg9	Has anyone ever seen a pyramid biome ? http://oi42.tinypic.com/2e0mges.jpg
11:08	VanessaE	Zeg9: interesting
11:08	* Zeg9	can't find out how to use the fill_ratio...
11:08	Zeg9	if I put 0.5 it results in this, but 0.2 in no pyramid at all
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11:14	Zeg9	Why won't sidelen = 1 work ?
11:14	Zeg9	^ in register_decoration
11:14	VanessaE	beats me, I've not messed with any of that new stuff
11:15	Zeg9	:/
11:15	Zeg9	Guess I'm going to code it myself...
11:16	VanessaE	(of course I don't get much into mapgen-related stuff anyways, moretrees is about as far as I needed to go with that)
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11:16	Zeg9	VanessaE: do you know how to use noise_params?
11:16	VanessaE	nope
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11:27	webdesigner97	VE?
11:27	VanessaE	hi
11:28	webdesigner97	:)
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11:28	webdesigner97	how do you make these nice headlines in your forum posts?
11:28	Zeg9	I guess the mapgen is the mapgen...
11:28	VanessaE	magic :D
11:28	webdesigner97	...
11:28	Zeg9	mapgen is the most boring thing to test*
11:28	* webdesigner97	wants to know
11:28	VanessaE	[h][b][u]Pipeworks[/u][/b][/h]
11:28	VanessaE	like that
11:29	webdesigner97	thx very much I â™¥ you
11:29	VanessaE	it's the [h][/h] that does the trick
11:29	VanessaE	now,
11:29	VanessaE	about stairsplus
11:29	VanessaE	what doesn't work? :)
11:29	webdesigner97	ouch
11:30	VanessaE	ouch?
11:30	webdesigner97	still same as in our last conversation, i didn't do much on it (and i have to eat soon), so I can't do that today. maybe this evening or tomorrow or next version
11:30	VanessaE	ok
11:30	VanessaE	let me know when you want to try it, I'll walk you through iy
11:30	VanessaE	it*
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11:31	VanessaE	aw shit, everyone hide!
11:31	* PilzAdam	hides
11:31	PilzAdam	Hello everyone!
11:31	Zeg9	Hi
11:31	VanessaE	hi
11:31	webdesigner97	ok, VE :)
11:32	Zeg9	PilzAdam, could you help me with register_decoration ? :D
11:32	PilzAdam	what do you want to do?
11:32	Zeg9	spawn pyramids in deserts
11:32	Zeg9	I got them spawning, but they either don't spawn at all, or spawn in clusters.
11:33	PilzAdam	https://github.com/PilzAdam/pilztest/blob/master/mods/base/init.lua#L1002
11:33	Zeg9	I've used this but... the problem above
11:33	PilzAdam	what fill_ratio do you have?
11:34	Zeg9	I've tried a lot of them, even noise_params
11:34	PilzAdam	what sidelen do you use?
11:34	Zeg9	2; since 1 doesn't work
11:34	PilzAdam	what is the size of one pyramid?
11:35	Zeg9	20x10x20
11:35	PilzAdam	set sidelen to 80 and try again
11:35	Zeg9	k
11:37	PilzAdam	VanessaE, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=98950#p98950
11:37	Zeg9	Thanks Adam, works way better
11:37	VanessaE	PilzAdam: killed.
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12:19	sfan5	h
12:19	sfan5	*hi
12:19	VanessaE	hi
12:20	sfan5	!up sfan5.duckdns.org 30002
12:20	MinetestBot	sfan5.duckdns.org:30002 is up (319ms)
12:21	sfan5	MinetestBot!
12:21	MinetestBot	sfan5!
12:21	sfan5	fuck
12:21	sfan5	my hdd crashed, but linux is still running
12:22	VanessaE	hope you have backups :(
12:22	VanessaE	(especially since linux tends to get pissy when its root fs goes awry)
12:31	ruskie	VanessaE, only if it's not partitioned
12:33	VanessaE	maybe, though I've seen it happen on properly-partitioned setups also
12:37	ruskie	I've had it happen once or twice in the 16 years or so of using/admining linux
12:37	ruskie	generally isn't an issue outside of boot
12:37	VanessaE	same here, its only been a couple of times over the past...G*d how long has it been now
12:38	VanessaE	about 16 or 17 years I guess
12:38	ruskie	I've more often nuked the system by doing stupid stuff when tired hehe
12:39	VanessaE	heh
12:39	VanessaE	same here
12:39	VanessaE	can't count the number of times I've just re-installed because it was easier than trying to "fix it the right way" :D
12:39	ruskie	I generally atleast consider how to fix it and try to
12:39	VanessaE	(or because I got tired of my current distro)
12:39	ruskie	depends on the damage after fixing
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12:41	ruskie	I generally keep the same install for years
12:41	ruskie	and try to avoid reinstalling
12:41	VanessaE	for me, it's usually enough to say "fuck it, run a backup and re-install" :)
12:41	ruskie	heh
12:41	ruskie	backups are done automatically so not an issue for me
12:41	ruskie	I'll still run a manual one just in case
12:41	VanessaE	mine go to an external HD that I prefer to leave turned off
12:42	ruskie	ahh mine go to internal HD and offsite to a server half way around the planet
12:42	VanessaE	(but it's trivial to run one manually thanks to rsync and a script I wrote some years ago)
12:42	VanessaE	paranoid much? :)
12:42	ruskie	I've been using backup-manager for years
12:42	ruskie	VanessaE, am paranoid that's sure(the fact that the backups are encrypted should tell you such ;) )
12:43	VanessaE	heh
12:43	ruskie	don't much care for the configs and such but they contain the mailserver data store as well
12:43	ruskie	and the remote backups have helped when the local drives failed
12:44	ruskie	dodged a bullet half a year ago just managed to replace the raid1 disks a bit before total failure
12:44	VanessaE	meh, haven't messed with RAID since...forever
12:45	ruskie	I run both my desktop and my server on raid1 for teh os and the important stuff
12:45	VanessaE	SSD for system/home, HDD for mass storage, and external HDD for backup purposes seems to suit my setup fine
12:45	ruskie	SSDs would die fast with my use profile
12:45	ruskie	so spinning rust it is for me
12:47	VanessaE	eh, SSDs aren't as bad as the naysayers make them otu to be
12:48	VanessaE	unless you're writing like 10 TB a day continuous, an SSD isn't gonna wear out very quickly.
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12:48	ruskie	they are with my use case
12:48	ruskie	I download multiple GBs each day and delete the same amount as well
12:48	ruskie	daily
12:49	* Calinou	is full SSD
12:49	Calinou	and I do backups to a 7 year old external HDD \o/
12:49	Calinou	which is smaller than my SSD
12:49	ruskie	spinning rust will generally die after a few years of that and I doubt SSD would handle it differently
12:50	VanessaE	ruskie: SSD will handle it fairly well if you have a reasonably-sized drive
12:51	Calinou	a TLC-based samsung 840 stopped working after 763 TiB of written data
12:51	VanessaE	to the tune of some 2-3 PB of writes to kill a 256GB disk
12:51	Calinou	and note that MLC-based SSDs last 4 times as long
12:51	ruskie	VanessaE, I have atm some 120gb of youtube vids downloaded... atleast 1/3rd of that will be replaced by new ones by tomorrow evening
12:52	VanessaE	ruskie: for mass storage data like that, of course you should write that stuff to spinning rust
12:52	Calinou	fun fact: downloading youtube videos breaks their TOS 8)
12:52	VanessaE	but believe me, SSD for home/system for general usage really does make a difference.
12:52	ruskie	Calinou, fun fact: I don't give a crap since i don't have an account with them
12:52	ruskie	Calinou, so I never accepted any ToS
12:53	PilzAdam	you accept the TOS by using their services
12:53	* Calinou	rageface
12:53	Calinou	clicks random steam game
12:53	Calinou	autoplay video with sound
12:54	ruskie	PilzAdam, the way I see if it's a binding legal agreement it needs to be explicitly accepted so unless they actually use some technical way to limit me I don't see an issue
12:54	ruskie	anyway if I watch it via a flash plugin I will also download it
12:54	ruskie	since that's what streaming is... downloading
12:55	ruskie	and in some cases it gets written to a local drive as well
12:55	PilzAdam	you forget that google has more money for lawyers than you
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12:57	ruskie	PilzAdam, they can have it, they would a) need to find me b) get a case to the courts c) show that what I was doing was against their ToS(which I never accepted, was prompted to read or notified in anyway) d) and one can always go along with reasonable/fair use of service
12:58	VanessaE	ruskie: that begs the question - WHY do you download all those videos, only to delete them later? format shifting? ripping audio? inquiring minds wanna know ;)
12:58	ruskie	VanessaE, I don't run flash at all
12:58	ruskie	so format shifitng would be the right answer I guess
12:58	ruskie	I watch them and then delete them
12:58	VanessaE	youtube can do HTML 5 now...
12:58	PilzAdam	https://www.youtube.com/html5
12:58	ruskie	yes sure
12:58	VanessaE	supposedly you can get by without flash at all.
12:59	ruskie	except it sucks for anything most of the time
12:59	ruskie	and it fails to work with vids that have ads on them
12:59	ruskie	not to mention browsers tend to have a rather sucky implementation
12:59	VanessaE	(that aside, format shifting is a perfectly legit use of their service)
13:00	ruskie	video and audio really shouldn't be embedded in a browser
13:00	ruskie	any more than GL(via webgl)
13:01	ruskie	also it's much easier to watch let's plays and such(which is what I primarily watch) without needing to use a clunky web interface instead of a dedicated media player app with a playlist
13:02	VanessaE	there's still the other question of how the fuck you are able to download that much data per day/month without your ISP throwing a shit fit :D
13:02	ruskie	VanessaE, because all our ISPs don't have download quotas
13:02	ruskie	we pay for bandwidth
13:02	VanessaE	must be some cheap bandwidth then :)
13:03	ruskie	60eur for 28/2.5Mbit connection+cabletv+voip service with ata termination
13:04	VanessaE	not bad.
13:04	ruskie	it's way to much for my own needs really
13:04	ruskie	I'd be happy with a 5/5 or 10/10 connection
13:04	VanessaE	I pay $54/mo (about 42 euros) for 30/3 but no tv/voip (don't need it)
13:04	ruskie	but the cableco doesn't offer it
13:06	ruskie	I could pay less without voip and tv
13:06	ruskie	but frankly only reason I still pay for TV is so that I can torrent tv shows(the few I still watch)
13:07	ruskie	that there's some money getting to the right people in the end
13:08	ruskie	anyway 15:00 and then some... off home
13:20	Calinou	<ruskie> video and audio really shouldn't be embedded in a browser
13:20	Calinou	yey, the old "people don't need performance" debate 8)
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13:29	harrison	back in the day we didn't have video in the browser. if we wanted a filmstrip we had to put in a requistion to the AV department and they were usually surly. And we liked it.
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13:37	Exio	[09:55:22] <ruskie> and in some cases it gets written to a local drive as well
13:37	Exio	that is how i downloaded videos
13:39	Exio	letting flash do its job
13:39	ruskie	hehe
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13:41	PilzAdam	john_minetest, MinetestBot has a !rand now
13:41	Exio	and for SSDs, i'm thinking about byying a small now for my / and swap, not more
13:42	Exio	buying*
13:42	VanessaE	don't put swap on an SSD
13:42	VanessaE	just buy more RAM instead for that
13:42	ruskie	still need some swap for emergency
13:42	Exio	VanessaE: i rarely use the swap
13:42	VanessaE	the only thing swap is good for is hibernating.
13:42	PilzAdam	Pilztest has only 1 craftitem now!
13:42	Exio	but when i do, it kills the performance of my whole system because it is insanely slow
13:42	ruskie	no it's good when you have a runaway memleak
13:43	Exio	-/+ buffers/cache: 1185 10805
13:43	ruskie	which frankly most browsers still are
13:43	Exio	yes
13:43	Exio	VanessaE: i don't hibernate now, i prefer a reboot :P
13:44	sfan5	!rand 100
13:44	ruskie	I never liked hibernate but I can accept that it might have it's value on laptops
13:44	sfan5	oh come on
13:44	PilzAdam	MinetestBot: reload rutils.py
13:44	MinetestBot	PilzAdam: rutils.py: no such module!
13:44	PilzAdam	MinetestBot: reload rutils
13:44	MinetestBot	PilzAdam: <module 'rutils' from '/home/xyz/bot/modules/rutils.pyc'> (version: 2013-06-28 17:21:39)
13:44	Exio	ruskie, i don't hibernate now that i use my desktop :P
13:44	PilzAdam	!rand 10
13:44	Exio	in laptops, it is pretty well though
13:44	Exio	suspend + hibernate ;P
13:45	sfan5	PilzAdam: he hasn't pulled the repo yet
13:45	PilzAdam	yea
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13:46	VanessaE	If I didn't run a server, I'd just suspend before going to bed
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13:47	VanessaE	ruskie: as for a runaway mem leak, better to have the PC crash in 10 seconds than churn for half an hour :-/
13:48	Exio	the OOM is a bit dumb
13:48	VanessaE	my experience with swap has always been that by the time I can get it into a state where I can see what started it off into never-never land, it's already a lost cause
13:49	Exio	VanessaE: the idea is don't have random things crashing
13:49	VanessaE	Exio: it's a desktop environment. "random things crashing" kinda comes with the territory :-/
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13:50	Exio	VanessaE: you don't want your browser to crash because you started something before and it went mad, and when you get "into the red area" with only MBs left of ram, the whole system would look like "stuck"
13:51	Exio	when you are something and the whole system gets stuck, you'll probably end with a reboot if 4 seconds after that it didn't work or recovered
13:51	Exio	you are doing*
13:52	Calinou	<VanessaE> don't put swap on an SSD
13:52	Calinou	again FUD
13:52	Calinou	put 1GB of swap, so that you don't crash if you run out of RAM
13:52	Calinou	anyway it's not like 8GB of RAM are ridiculously expensive
13:52	Calinou	depends
13:53	Calinou	it depends 1) on flash type 2) on thickness
13:53	VanessaE	john_minetest: more like 100,000 or so
13:53	Calinou	21nm MLC lasts 3000 cycles, 21nm TLC 750
13:53	Calinou	most SLC lasts 10000-100000
13:53	Calinou	note that these cycles are given data, it can last more, or less
13:53	Calinou	but usually more :P
13:53	Calinou	<john_minetest> With swap these 1000 times are over soon.
13:53	Calinou	I use like 15MB of swap every day...
13:54	Exio	i don't use the swap normally
13:54	Calinou	it's sad how people still believe everything they heard
13:54	Exio	right now i'm using about 2gb of ram, and it would go up to 10GB if i start a VM + MC + CS CZ or whatever
13:55	Calinou	there is no such thing as "USB flash"
13:55	Calinou	most keys are TLC-based, high end ones MLC-based
13:55	Calinou	there is something more important: flash retention
13:56	Calinou	if you write data, after a few years it might be corrupted if you don't access it
13:56	Calinou	10 years when a SSD is new, this time can "fall" to 1 year after 10 years :P
13:56	Calinou	so there is no point in trying to keep a SSD more than ~10 years
13:57	Exio	so, my 27GB harddisk would havedied or what?
13:57	Calinou	I bet it also applies to HDDs, but in a different way
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14:01	sfan5	really?
14:01	sfan5	!op
14:01	sfan5	good we have MinetestBot ^^
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14:37	sfan5	#freenode while +mz: /r/nocontext
14:41	VanessaE	bbl
14:53	PilzAdam	!op
14:53	* PilzAdam	joins OP party
14:55	Exio4	!op Exio4
14:55	Exio4	:D
14:56	PilzAdam	!op Exio4
14:57	Exio4	lol?
14:57	PilzAdam	!op john_minetest
14:58	Exio4	seems legit
14:58	Exio4	sfan5 will kill you though ;P
14:58	PilzAdam	lets see what happens ;-)
14:58	Exio4	!op landmine
14:58	sfan5	Exio4: no
14:58	Exio4	7obankick PilzAdam
14:58	Exio4	oops
14:59	Exio4	sfan5, what about adding +eI? (just checking :P)
14:59	sfan5	whats +e and whats +I ?
14:59	Exio4	+e = exception list, for bans or quiets
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14:59	Exio4	+I = invite list, you can join even with +i
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14:59	Exio4	i would use $a:<accountname> for ops
15:00	sfan5	good
15:00	Exio4	sfan5, example ^, nobody that isn't OP will see it btw
15:00	Jordach	when did john_minetest get OP
15:00	sfan5	!op Jordach
15:00	Exio4	lol
15:00	sfan5	Jordach: what were you asking?
15:00	Jordach	LOL
15:00	Jordach	oops
15:00	ShadowNinja	Um...
15:00	sfan5	were having an OP party
15:00		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released \| RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev \| SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net \| TODAY: OP party!
15:00	* ShadowNinja	scrolls
15:01	Jordach	ShadowNinja, can you github your protector
15:01	Jordach	(i've been looking for it for some time now.)
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15:01	Axew	do u luv me
15:01	Exio4	no, we don't
15:01	Axew	Exio4 u r ugly
15:01	Jordach	http://24.media.tumblr.com/50681a805561cd8fd0e0391a9de24467/tumblr_menghmmr3I1qbvaf3o1_500.gif
15:02	ShadowNinja	Jordach: Grab it from my server and test it first.
15:02	Jordach	point me the IP please
15:02	sfan5	Jordach: could you use id.gd for your urls?
15:02	ShadowNinja	shadowninja.minetest.net
15:02	sfan5	!up shadowninja.minetest.net
15:02	MinetestBot	shadowninja.minetest.net:30000 is up (236ms)
15:02	Jordach	cheers mate
15:02	ShadowNinja	It should be in the dirlist.
15:03	Jordach	areas.tar.gz
15:03	ShadowNinja	Yep.
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15:03		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released \| RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev \| SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/
15:03	Jordach	hai ChanServ
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15:04	sfan5	ChanServ: come on, you broke it
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15:04		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released \| RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev \| SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net \| TODAY: OP party!
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15:04	sfan5	!op Exio4
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15:05	Exio4	sfan5, thanks! :P
15:05	ShadowNinja	Jordach: Hmmm, want a zip?
15:05	Jordach	i have WinRAR
15:05	Jordach	and a linux server
15:06	ShadowNinja	Ok, good.
15:06	Exio4	sfan5, what do you think about +eI to ops? :P
15:07	sfan5	Exio4: not a bad idea
15:08	Jordach	+eI is?
15:08	PilzAdam	Jordach, read logs
15:09	Jordach	you do realise i'm almost operator material right
15:09	Exio4	almost in what way
15:10	Jordach	i can handle multiple requests, but i blow my top now and then; stops burn out completely
15:10	Jordach	also: i should finish implementing my automatic responces for stuck users in IRC with my custom user commands
15:12	Jordach	which i might port to MinetestBot
15:12	Jordach	so basic things, such as simplified mod installs (eg, how to use github mods, as most people are real dumb sometimes, even when american)
15:13	Jordach	these guides will be on minetest.net/doku.php
15:13	Jordach	idea, lets op VanessaE
15:13	Jordach	lets op the OPs
15:13	Exio4	anyway
15:13	Exio4	chanserv is already back :P
15:14	Jordach	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=98994#p98994
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15:14	Jordach	sfan5, white text alarm
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15:15	Jordach	(i usually have them now and then for fun!)
15:16	Jordach	btw, two weeks and im no longer at school
15:16	Jordach	that means you have me 24/7
15:16	sfan5	why doesn't anyone get that the bg color of the forum is NOT #FFFFFF
15:16	Jordach	#transp
15:16	Jordach	^ that's it
15:16	Jordach	im talking about the <body>
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15:18	sfan5	Jordach: if #FAFAFA
15:18	sfan5	*its
15:18	* sfan5	made the text truly invisible
15:19	Jordach	sfan5, see, i make these jokes for fun
15:21	Jordach	sfan5, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=98996#p98996 learned. #FAFAFA
15:23	Jordach	VanessaE, HDX Sam II incoming
15:25	Jordach	uhoh
15:25	PilzAdam	^ thexyz
15:25	Jordach	i just got this giant RED X in MCSkin3D
15:26	Jordach	i know my GPU isn't happy
15:26	* sfan5	's HDD is not happy
15:26	sfan5	crashed 4 times in the last week
15:26	sfan5	s/in the//
15:32	Jordach	sfan5, huh
15:32	Jordach	mine's a 160GB PoS
15:32	Jordach	nearly 7 years old
15:32	* sfan5	haz a ~2 years old 500GB <dunno> HDD
15:32	Jordach	/nick chanserv
15:33	Jordach	sfan5, see older hardware works better than newer
15:33	sfan5	Jordach: you canc't
15:33	Jordach	-c
15:33	sfan5	Jordach: theres also... planned obsolence
15:33	Exio4	Jordach: my AMD duron works pretty l33t, but the problem is that my phone now is faster
15:34	sfan5	!tw freenodestaff
15:34	MinetestBot	@annelyze @brammm Geweldig! U bent van harte welkom. :-) (@freenodestaff)
15:34	Jordach	i can actually read that
15:34	Jordach	without even learning german
15:34	sfan5	thats not german
15:34	Jordach	...it looks like it
15:34	Exio4	lol...
15:35	Jordach	anyone wanna see a HDX Sam II
15:35	sfan5	that dutch it think
15:35	* sfan5
15:35	Jordach	its still got the 8px styles, with a HDX sort of bumpmap
15:36	Jordach	and now the hard part: downloading HDX
15:37	* Jordach	watches the MB go up
15:40	sfan5	MB evolves to....
15:40	sfan5	...
15:40	sfan5	GB!!!!
15:40	PilzAdam	soso, Jordach kann also Deutsch lesen?
15:40	sfan5	PilzAdam: der tweet sah mir eher nach NiederlÃ¤ndisch aus..
15:40	Exio4	wat
15:41	Jordach	last night i almost had a heart attack
15:41	Jordach	was downloading a file through http at 50kb/s
15:41	PilzAdam	sfan5, wollte nur prÃ¼fen ob er _wirklich_ Deutsch kann ;-)
15:41	Jordach	file being 660mb in size, finished and then my internet dide
15:41	Jordach	died*
15:42	sfan5	Jordach: bad joke alert http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99000#p99000
15:42	Jordach	99000th post
15:42	Jordach	LOL
15:43	sfan5	Jordach: you can continue downloads with "wget -c"
15:43	Jordach	sfan5, this is them stupid pay for fast download sites
15:43	* Jordach	sighs
15:43	* Jordach	wishes they should have used torrent links
15:43	Jordach	resumable and faster at times
15:43	* PilzAdam	will now always hit alt+a before reading Jordach's or sfan5's posts
15:44	Jordach	oh shit
15:44	Jordach	i missed that
15:44	Jordach	nice sfan5
15:44	sfan5	file1.info is a pretty nice download site, no registration need and full speed dl
15:44	sfan5	PilzAdam: hehe
15:44	PilzAdam	I wonder how difficult it is to hack into FF to forbid font with same color as bg
15:45	* Jordach	hugs MinetestBot
15:45	Jordach	PilzAdam, extensions!
15:45	PilzAdam	FontBlockPlus
15:45	* MinetestBot	purrs
15:45	Jordach	lol
15:46	Jordach	brb - Jordach.system.data_dump(all)
15:46	Jordach	purging memory from 24hrs ago
15:46	sfan5	> Jordach.system.info.uname.get(all)
15:47	sfan5	apparently that function is broken
15:48	Jordach	system data purged
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15:48	MarkTwain	== NickServ Services are currently unavailable
15:49	MarkTwain	???
15:49	Jordach	* NickServ :Services are currently unavailable
15:49	sfan5	MarkTwain: -> #freenode /topic: "The network is experiencing disruption at present. Services (NickServ, ChanServ, etc) may be unresponsive."
15:49	Jordach	sounds like a DDoS
15:49	MarkTwain	okay
15:49	* Jordach	wonders who'd attack freenode
15:50	Jordach	....Microsoft
15:50	* MarkTwain	coughs
15:51	sfan5	Jordach: #freenode May 14 17:32:45 <Wug>nanotube: its 14 year olds with huge eboners and the 30 day free trial on rentabotnet.ru
15:51	Jordach	Sorry, the website rentabotnet.ru cannot be found.
15:52	sfan5	its a joke
15:52	Jordach	ikr
15:52	Jordach	ugh, also: i hate people who use speed limiting download sites and use .rar with .part1 and .part2
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15:53	sfan5	I hate people who use .rar
15:54	Jordach	same here
15:54	Jordach	it's just the face the world uses windows and winRar is freeware
15:54	Jordach	fact*
15:54	PilzAdam	those people mostly have a mental disorder
15:54	PilzAdam	you cant blame them for that
15:56	PilzAdam	every single Linux distor out there supports .tar.gz
15:56	PilzAdam	-distro
15:56	PilzAdam	**
15:57	sfan5	john_minetest: 7z is also nice for linux, there no gui but still nice
15:57	PilzAdam	for win builds of Minetest: .zip ~8 MiB, .7z ~ 5Mib
15:58	Jordach	http://imgur.com/gallery/Rh7qD82
15:58	MarkTwain	^^^Sad
15:58	MarkTwain	lol
15:58	PilzAdam	spam: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99002#p99002
15:59	sfan5	PilzAdam: gone
15:59	MarkTwain	!server ping:most
15:59	MinetestBot	MarkTwain: Menche's Public Freebuild \| menche.servegame.com \| Clients: 3/100, 16 \| Version: 0.4.7 \| ping: 0.293
15:59	sfan5	john_minetest: 7z x <file>
15:59	proller	john_minetest, learn mc
15:59	MarkTwain	!server ping:meadiumest
15:59	MinetestBot	MarkTwain: No results
15:59	MarkTwain	eh..
16:00	PilzAdam	john_minetest, I use KDE's ark, thats pretty awesome
16:01	harrison	minecraft is better than minetest because minecraft has troll mobs
16:01	harrison	(see what i did there?)
16:01	harrison	metalevel trolling
16:01	* harrison	is all about meta
16:01	* harrison	thinks "i never met a meta i didn't like"
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16:02	Jordach	btw, http://i.imgur.com/KGFH1QH.png
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16:05	PilzAdam	.jpg? seems like HDX
16:05	proller	i'm +1 for .xz
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16:11	Jordach	and ow fuck
16:11	Jordach	slicing your finger open on a laptop expansion bay hurts
16:11	Jordach	(i did that sunday!)
16:12	MarkTwain	Oops
16:13	MarkTwain	:)
16:17	Jordach	Sam II HDX nearling completion
16:28	Jordach	Sam II HDX@ http://i.imgur.com/SFcRNj7.png
16:28	Jordach	VanessaE, PilzAdam ^
16:28	Jordach	sfan5, ^
16:28	sfan5	nawce
16:28	Exio4	Jordach: tar xvf works normally :P
16:28	Exio4	john_minetest: *
16:29	* Jordach	grunts at Exio4
16:29	Jordach	i aint john_minetest
16:29	Exio4	tar is now 42% more user friendly
16:29	Jordach	:3
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16:29	Jordach	hello kahrl
16:30		Mati^1 left #minetest
16:30	Jordach	...and sfan5's bouncer works as usual
16:30		Mati^1 joined #minetest
16:31	sfan5	Jordach: which bouncer?
16:31	Jordach	minetest.ru
16:31	Jordach	<sfan5> nice sofa
16:31	Jordach	cheers
16:31	sfan5	wat
16:31	sfan5	w8
16:31	sfan5	oh
16:31	sfan5	...
16:32	* Jordach	wonders if someone has converted VanessaE's 64x pack into a MC pack yet
16:32	Jordach	it's a free license, make it so!
16:37	NakedFury	converting MC packs is gonna be easier now
16:37	Jordach	way way way easier
16:37	Exio4	now?
16:37	Exio4	since 1.4
16:37		ChanServ joined #minetest
16:37	Exio4	or did they change the format, other time?
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16:45	Kacey	OP party?
16:46		OWNSyouAll_DESKT joined #minetest
16:46	PilzAdam	yes
16:46	MarkTwain	I am going to make a map
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16:48	Kacey	what is an op party?
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17:01	Jordach	nopenopenope
17:02	Jordach	and i just survived some muther fuckin hot chillit
17:02	Jordach	-t
17:02	Jordach	we put it in my microwave noodles
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17:12	Kacey	seriously, what is an op party?
17:13	Jordach	Kacey, can i show you
17:13	Kacey	sure
17:13	Jordach	(you'll have to re-join #minetest)
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17:13	Jordach	basically, you know how you get /kick
17:13	Jordach	i can do that
17:13	Jordach	plus bans
17:13	Jordach	and other shit in the middle
17:14	Kacey	hang on, re-joining
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17:14	Jordach	Kacey, sign in with webchat with a random nick, lemme show you
17:14	Kacey	k
17:15	Jordach	(ping me first.)
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17:15	TROLOLOL	Jordach: i am here
17:15	Jordach	righty
17:15	Jordach	/kick TROLOLOL
17:15	Jordach	will kick you from the channel
17:15		TROLOLOL was kicked by Jordach: TROLOLOL
17:16	Jordach	and there you go
17:16	Kacey	i know how to kick
17:16	Jordach	i wont ban as you have the same IP
17:16	Jordach	which is 1) mean, 2) Kacey cant come here
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17:17	webdesigner97	hi!
17:17	* Jordach	sees webdesigner97 has played on wazuclan's server before
17:17	Kacey	i think that on a normal day, core devs should be OPs and the rest of us shouldhave voice and then people we dont want (lamefun, LM, etc...) should be a normal user without voice or op...
17:18	webdesigner97	yes, some months ago i think ;)
17:18	Jordach	voice is just a tag
17:18	Jordach	nothing special
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17:19	Jordach	important dev
17:19	sfan5	voice is only useful if the channel in +m
17:19	Jordach	otherwise its not useful
17:19	sfan5	(or to highlight ppl like in #minetest-dev)
17:20	Jordach	hey LazyJ
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17:21	LazyJ	G'mornin', Jordach :)
17:21	Jordach	because im nice :P
17:22		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released \| RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev \| SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net \| TODAY: OP and Voice party!
17:22	Jordach	and you admin the most played server besides redcrabs
17:24	Kacey	which one?
17:24	Jordach	wazuclan.com
17:24	Jordach	or linuxgaming.us
17:25	Kacey	aah i played on it once
17:25	Kacey	i would say Menche's is 3rd then
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17:30	* sfan5	just tried to use "make commit" derp
17:34	Jordach	lol
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17:38	Jordach	no mask for Calinou today
17:38	TheLastProject	Even Jordach gets OP?
17:38	TheLastProject	:(
17:38	TheLastProject	Jordach! I'm your friend! You know? :D
17:39	TheLastProject	Nah, too desperate...
17:39	Exio4	lol +v
17:41	TheLastProject	Exactly, john_minetest
17:42	Exio4	/mode +v *
17:42	Exio4	(ofc it won't work ;P)
17:43	* Calinou	is in #minecraft o/
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17:43	TheLastProject	Maybe /mode +v @ could work, not sure
17:43	TheLastProject	I, at least, can't try it myself :P
17:44		ChanServ joined #minetest
17:44		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released \| RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev \| SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net \| TODAY: OP party!
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17:45	Exio4	TheLastProject: it work, mode doesn't support masks unless that is [\+-]bqeI
17:45	TheLastProject	Hmm, I see
17:45	Exio4	it won't work **
17:45	Exio4	err
17:45	Calinou	O_o so much ops/voices
17:47	Exio4	\| TODAY: OP and Voice party!
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17:51	sfan5	yay
17:51	sfan5	ChanServ's gone
17:51	Calinou	still don't have my cloak
17:52	sfan5	Having an OP party while ChanServ is gone! \o/
17:52	sfan5	goddamnit
17:52	sfan5	adams.freenode.net changed the topic again
17:52		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released \| RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev \| SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net \| TODAY: OP and Voice party w/o ChanServ!
17:53	* Mati1	akuku
17:54	Jordach	hold on
17:54	Jordach	nickserv is alive
17:54	Jordach	/whois JamesTait
17:54	Jordach	he has a cloak
17:54	JamesTait	Jordach, is it a cloak of invisibility?
17:54		ChanServ joined #minetest
17:54		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released \| RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev \| SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net \| TODAY: OP party!
17:55	sfan5	Jordach: if you have a cloak and then the services die you keep the cloak
17:55	ShadowNinja	Jordach: Cloaks aren't removed when NickServ dies.
17:55	Exio4	Jordach: /whois Exio4
17:55	Jordach	ahh
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17:55	sfan5	goddamnit, it keeps changing the topic
17:55	Jordach	:(
17:55		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released \| RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev \| SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net \| TODAY: OP and Voice party!
17:55	Jordach	ChanServ remembers the last topic
17:55	ShadowNinja	What is staff doing to services?
17:56	Jordach	moving it to a new location as the old on is under a ddos
17:56	ShadowNinja	Ah.
17:57	ShadowNinja	Why so many links and netsplits?
17:58	Exio4	they need to work on it
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18:00		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released \| RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev \| SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net \| TODAY: OP and Voice party w/o ChanServ!
18:00	sfan5	now ChanServ auto-removes the "w/o ChanServ" part when it gets back!
18:00	sfan5	WIN
18:02	ShadowNinja	LOL.
18:02	Exio4	sfan5 is fighting with chanserv
18:02	sfan5	\o/
18:02	* Jordach	rofls
18:02	Jordach	* salamanderrake is now known as beaverbeater <- rofl
18:03	sfan5	beaverbeater: rename to "ChanServ"
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18:03	Jordach	i cant get over that nick's name
18:03	Exio4	sfan5, can't
18:03	sfan5	meh
18:03	Kacey	* ChanServ :Erroneous Nickname
18:03	Exio4	all nicks are protected by the ircd
18:04	Exio4	only available though fake servers or others ircd (like services)
18:04	Calinou	inb4 kline
18:04	Calinou	or well, zline
18:04	Calinou	same thing
18:04	ShadowNinja	/RESV *Serv Services
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18:04	kaeza	greetings
18:05	kaeza	wait...what
18:05	Kacey	:-)
18:05		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released \| RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev \| SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net \| TODAY: OP and Voice party w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well.
18:05	Jordach	enjoy
18:05	Kacey	huh i dont have a cloak...
18:05	Jordach	when everything's fixed: my addon should go
18:05		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released \| RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev \| SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net \| TODAY: OP and Voice parteyyy w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:05	Calinou	includes ban evade in #minecraft day too
18:05		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released \| RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev \| SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net \| TODAY: OP and Voice party w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:06		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released \| RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev \| SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net \| TODAY: OP and Voice rave w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:06	Calinou	these guys must be tired by now
18:07	kaeza	:D
18:07	* Kacey	has changed the topic to: http://minetest.net \| NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released 0.4.8 to come soon! \| RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev \| SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net \| TODAY: OP and Voice rave w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. o/
18:08	Kacey	hah!
18:08	sfan5	Kacey: yeah, sure
18:08	Calinou	lol 0.4.8 to come soon
18:08	Calinou	how about 1.0.0
18:08		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| NEWS: Minetest 1.7 released \| RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev \| SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net \| TODAY: OP and Voice rave w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:08	Jordach	trolling MC
18:09	sfan5	lawl
18:09		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| NEWS: Minetest 1.7 released \| RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev \| SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net \| TODAY: OP and Voice rave w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/ \| See latest Minetest Let's play here: http://www.yo
18:09	Jordach	#minetest falls to shit without ChanServ
18:09	kaeza	fak
18:09	sfan5	Jordach: *#minecraft
18:09		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| NEWS: Minetest 1.7 released \| RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev \| SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net \| TODAY: OP and Voice rave w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/ \| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
18:09	Calinou	#ubuntu*
18:09		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| NEWS: Minetest 1.7 released \| RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev \| SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net \| TODAY: OP and Voice rave w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:09		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released \| RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev \| SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net \| TODAY: OP and Voice rave w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:09	Jordach	#mlp*
18:10	Calinou	no topic is set in #mlp
18:10	Calinou	that channel has 1 user
18:10	Calinou	probably a freenode staff
18:10	Jordach	or Taoki
18:11	Kacey	i want op!
18:11	Kacey	http://www.rochelleseltzer.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Today-was-a-good-day.jpg
18:11	sfan5	Jordach: no u
18:12	Jordach	no u
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18:13	Jordach	sfan5, !rev the topic
18:13	sfan5	nah
18:13	sfan5	better do some useful stuff
18:13	sfan5	!b64e http://minetest.net \| NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released \| RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev \| SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net \| TODAY: OP and Voice rave w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:13	MinetestBot	aHR0cDovL21pbmV0ZXN0Lm5ldCB8IE5FV1M6IE1pbmV0ZXN0IDAuNC43IHJlbGVhc2VkIHwgUlVMRVM6IGJlIHBhdGllbnQsIHJlc3BlY3Qgb3RoZXIgdXNlcnMsIGhlcmUgYW5kIGluIG90aGVyIGNoYW5uZWxzIHwgQ09SRSBERVZTOiAjbWluZXRlc3QtZGV2IHwgU0VSVkVSUzogaHR0cDovL21pbmV0ZXN0Lm5ldC9zZXJ2ZXJzIHwgSVJDIExPR1M6IGh0dHA6Ly9pcmMubWluZXRlc3QucnUvbWluZXRlc3QvIHwgV0lLSTogaHR0cDovL3dpa2kubWluZXRlc3QubmV0IHwgVE9EQVk6IE9QIGFuZCBWb2ljZSByYXZlIHcvbyBDaGFuU2VydiBpbmNsdWRlcyBubyBjbG9hayBkYXkgYXMgd2VsbC4gXG8v
18:13	sfan5	^ Jordach
18:13		Topic for #minetest is now <MinetestBot> aHR0cDovL21pbmV0ZXN0Lm5ldCB8IE5FV1M6IE1pbmV0ZXN0IDAuNC43IHJlbGVhc2VkIHwgUlVMRVM6IGJlIHBhdGllbnQsIHJlc3BlY3Qgb3RoZXIgdXNlcnMsIGhlcmUgYW5kIGluIG90aGVyIGNoYW5uZWxzIHwgQ09SRSBERVZTOiAjbWluZXRlc3QtZGV2IHwgU0VSVkVSUzogaHR0cDovL21pbmV0ZXN0Lm5ldC9zZXJ2ZXJzIHwgSVJDIExPR1M6IGh0dHA6Ly9pcmMubWluZXRlc3QucnUvbWluZXRlc3QvIHwgV0lLSTogaHR0cDovL3dpa2kubWluZXRlc3QubmV0IHwgVE9EQVk6IE9QIGFuZCBW
18:14		Topic for #minetest is now [base64] aHR0cDovL21pbmV0ZXN0Lm5ldCB8IE5FV1M6IE1pbmV0ZXN0IDAuNC43IHJlbGVhc2VkIHwgUlVMRVM6IGJlIHBhdGllbnQsIHJlc3BlY3Qgb3RoZXIgdXNlcnMsIGhlcmUgYW5kIGluIG90aGVyIGNoYW5uZWxzIHwgQ09SRSBERVZTOiAjbWluZXRlc3QtZGV2IHwgU0VSVkVSUzogaHR0cDovL21pbmV0ZXN0Lm5ldC9zZXJ2ZXJzIHwgSVJDIExPR1M6IGh0dHA6Ly9pcmMubWluZXRlc3QucnUvbWluZXRlc3QvIHwgV0lLSTogaHR0cDovL3dpa2kubWluZXRlc3QubmV0IHwgVE9EQVk6IE9QIGFuZCBW
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18:16	diemartin	!b64d aHR0cDovL21pbmV0ZXN0Lm5ldCB8IE5FV1M6IE1pbmV0ZXN0IDAuNC43IHJlbGVhc2VkIHwgUlVMRVM6IGJlIHBhdGllbnQsIHJlc3BlY3Qgb3RoZXIgdXNlcnMsIGhlcmUgYW5kIGluIG90aGVyIGNoYW5uZWxzIHwgQ09SRSBERVZTOiAjbWluZXRlc3QtZGV2IHwgU0VSVkVSUzogaHR0cDovL21pbmV0ZXN0Lm5ldC9zZXJ2ZXJzIHwgSVJDIExPR1M6IGh0dHA6Ly9pcmMubWluZXRlc3QucnUvbWluZXRlc3QvIHwgV0lLSTogaHR0cDovL3dpa2kubWluZXRlc3QubmV0IHwgVE9EQVk6IE9QIGFuZCBW
18:16	MinetestBot	http://minetest.net \| NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released \| RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev \| SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net \| TODAY: OP and V
18:16	* Jordach	changes the channel radio to AC/DC - Back in Black
18:16	sfan5	meg
18:16	sfan5	*meg
18:16	sfan5	*meh
18:16	* Jordach	then turns it upto 11
18:16	kaeza	Jordach, fuck yea
18:17	Jordach	<- is actually listening to said song on Clementine
18:17		Topic for #minetest is now [base64] aHR0cDovL21pbmV0ZXN0Lm5ldCB8IE5FV1M6IE1pbmV0ZXN0IDAuNC43IHJlbGVhc2VkIHwgUlVM
18:17	Calinou	clementine brohoof
18:17	sfan5	damnit
18:17	* kaeza	is listening to "Boulevard of Broken Dreams"
18:18		Topic for #minetest is now aHR0cDovL21pbmV0ZXN0Lm5ldCB8IE5FV1M6IE1pbmV0ZXN0IDAuNC43IHJlbGVhc2VkIHwgUlVMRVM6IGJlIHBhdGllbnQsIHJlc3BlY3Qgb3RoZXIgdXNlcnMsIGhlcmUgYW5kIGluIG90aGVyIGNo
18:18		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released \| RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev \| SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net \| TODAY: OP and Voice rave w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:18	Jordach	http://i.imgur.com/1Wt0mnS.png
18:18	Jordach	kaeza, turned up to 11
18:19	lamefun	!b64e The ONEist Global Government attacks freenode!!!
18:19	MinetestBot	VGhlIE9ORWlzdCBHbG9iYWwgR292ZXJubWVudCBhdHRhY2tzIGZyZWVub2RlISEh
18:19	Calinou	lol, lamefun is here
18:19	Calinou	the guy who got Calinou Skills too
18:19	kaeza	/topic WORSHIP LUA!
18:19	Kacey	!b64e TROLOL
18:19	MinetestBot	VFJPTE9M
18:19	sfan5	lamefun: beware, we still have many ops sitting around unlike other channels
18:19		Topic for #minetest is now Worship LUA. TODAY: OP / Voice Rave! \o/
18:20		Topic for #minetest is now Worship LUA. TODAY: OP and Voice Party w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:20		Topic for #minetest is now Worship LUA. TODAY: OP and Voice Party w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:20	Calinou	Lua not LUA
18:20	kaeza	^
18:20	Calinou	poor Taoki is laughing at us right now
18:20		Topic for #minetest is now Worship Lua. TODAY: OP and Voice Party w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:20	Jordach	i beat sfan5 again.
18:20	sfan5	damnit
18:21	sfan5	you were disturbing me editing
18:21		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| RULES: many \| NEWS: 0.4.7 released! \| Worship Lua \| TODAY: OP and Voice Party w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:21	Jordach	> RULES: many
18:21	Jordach	lol'd at
18:21	Calinou	rules: 34
18:21		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| RULES: many \| NEWS: 0.4.7 released! \| Worship Lua! \| TODAY: OP and Voice Party w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:22	Jordach	we need these days again
18:22	sfan5	yep
18:22	* Jordach	considers starting IceCast DJ Rave with Jordach
18:23	Jordach	then i'd have to open ports :P
18:23	sfan5	or use my unfinished port over remote server program
18:23		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| RULES: many \| NEWS: 0.4.7 released! \| Worship Lua! \| TODAY: OP and Voice Party w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/ \| Also: Bring-your-kitten-to-work-day!
18:23	Jordach	<Boris_Johnson> verrryy niiiceeee
18:24		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| RULES: many \| NEWS: 0.4.7 released! \| Worship Lua! \| TODAY: OP and Voice Party w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/ \| Also: Bring-your-kitten-to-work-day
18:24	Jordach	<MinetestBot> kitten overload in MinetestBot.System.Kittens()
18:25	Jordach	clever
18:25	Jordach	but youre wrong
18:25	Jordach	!= is not
18:26		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| RULES: many \| NEWS: 0.4.7 released! \| Worship Lua! \| TODAY: OP and Voice Party w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/ \| Also: Bring-your-kitten-to-work-day \| Bring cakes for the Ops. Delicious cakes, not these ugyl ones from the supermarket.
18:26		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| RULES: many \| NEWS: 0.4.7 released! \| Worship Lua! \| TODAY: OP and Voice Party w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/ \| Also: Bring-your-kitten-to-work-day \| Bring cakes for the Ops. Delicious cakes, not these ugly ones from the supermarket.
18:26	kaeza	lol ugyl
18:27		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| RULES: many \| NEWS: 0.4.7 released! \| Worship Lua! \| TODAY: OP and Voice Party w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/ \| Also: Bring-your-kitten-to-work-day \| Bring cakes for the Ops. Delicious cakes, not these ugly ones from the Walmart.
18:27	thexyz	I'm surprised no one has disabled "c" by now
18:27	Exio4	hi thexyz
18:27	Jordach	AW
18:27	Jordach	i wanted RAINBOW RAVE
18:28	sfan5	shouldn't this work...
18:28	sfan5	!sfu celeron*
18:28	MinetestBot	celeron55 6Administrator 334 posts, registered on 2011-04-19 \| id: 2
18:28	MinetestBot	Celeron56 4Banned 1 posts, registered on 2012-08-28 \| id: 2834
18:28	sfan5	yep works
18:28	Calinou	lol
18:28	Jordach	!stfu Calinou
18:28	kaeza	YAY
18:28	Calinou	!sfu Calinou
18:28	MinetestBot	Calinou Moderator 2,018 posts, registered on 2011-08-01 \| id: 194
18:28	Calinou	dat id
18:28	sfan5	actually, lets keep it
18:28	Jordach	!sfu jo*
18:28	MinetestBot	Jordach: Too many matches: 50
18:28	Jordach	!sfu jor*
18:28	MinetestBot	Jordach: Too many matches: 9
18:29	Jordach	!sfu jor*
18:29	MinetestBot	Jordach: Too many matches: 9
18:29	sfan5	Jordach: one sec
18:29	Jordach	!sfu jord*
18:29	Calinou	!sfu mmo*
18:29	sfan5	!sfulimit Jordach 9
18:29	MinetestBot	mmogoing 4Banned 3 posts, registered on 2013-03-15 \| id: 4643
18:29	MinetestBot	mmohome 4Banned 3 posts, registered on 2013-02-15 \| id: 4313
18:29	MinetestBot	Limit set.
18:29	Calinou	spammers :D
18:29	sfan5	Jordach: use jor* now
18:29	Jordach	!sfu jord*
18:29	MinetestBot	Jordach Member 3,221 posts, registered on 2011-10-03 \| id: 332
18:29	MinetestBot	jordan4ibanez 4Banned 1,812 posts, registered on 2011-09-27 \| id: 312
18:29	MinetestBot	jordan4ibanez1 8New member 0 posts, registered on 2012-03-28 \| id: 1556
18:29	MinetestBot	Jordankae 4Banned 1 posts, registered on 2012-10-29 \| id: 3397
18:29	MinetestBot	Jordanlw 8New member 4 posts, registered on 2011-12-02 \| id: 899
18:29	MinetestBot	jordanperks3 8New member 0 posts, registered on 2013-01-25 \| id: 4119
18:29	MinetestBot	jordantim 4Banned 1 posts, registered on 2013-05-07 \| id: 5500
18:29	sfan5	!sfulimit Jordach reset
18:29	MinetestBot	Limit reset.
18:29	Calinou	"sfu"?
18:29	Jordach	search forum user
18:29	Menche	!sfu Likwid*
18:29	MinetestBot	Likwid H-Craft Member 1,139 posts, registered on 2013-01-06 \| id: 3972
18:29	Kacey	!sfu Ka*
18:29	MinetestBot	Kacey: Too many matches: 50
18:30	Calinou	!sfu jojoa*
18:30	MinetestBot	jojoa1997 Member 2,492 posts, registered on 2012-12-13 \| id: 3782
18:30	sfan5	!sfu swag
18:30	MinetestBot	Dope Swag Legion 8New member 0 posts, registered on 2013-01-19 \| id: 4055
18:30	MinetestBot	waffleswag2 8New member 0 posts, registered on 2012-10-28 \| id: 3389
18:30	MinetestBot	whiteboyswag 8New member 6 posts, registered on 2013-02-23 \| id: 4395
18:30	MinetestBot	yoloswag 8New member 0 posts, registered on 2013-02-24 \| id: 4407
18:30	Kacey	!sfu Kac*
18:30	MinetestBot	kac-mal767 8New member 0 posts, registered on 2013-03-29 \| id: 4849
18:30	Calinou	>2012-12 >2492 posts
18:30	sfan5	^ :(
18:30	MinetestBot	Kacey Member 144 posts, registered on 2012-05-05 \| id: 1770
18:30	Jordach	<MinetestBot> yoloswag New member 0 posts, registered on 2013-02-24 \| id: 4407
18:30	Calinou	he has more posts than me but is 1.5 year newer...
18:30	sfan5	!sfu jojoa*
18:30	MinetestBot	jojoa1997 Member 2,492 posts, registered on 2012-12-13 \| id: 3782
18:30	sfan5	^ Calinou
18:30	sfan5	oh wait
18:30	kaeza	!sfu kae*
18:30	MinetestBot	kaeo_ao 8New member 0 posts, registered on 2013-04-13 \| id: 5096
18:30	MinetestBot	kaeza Member 1,166 posts, registered on 2012-10-18 \| id: 3279
18:30	sfan5	dero
18:30	sfan5	*derp
18:30	Menche	!sfu Menche
18:30	MinetestBot	Menche Member 911 posts, registered on 2011-07-02 \| id: 153
18:30	lamefun	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=88706#p88706 --- glad to see that there are other people who tell inconvenient truth
18:30	Jordach	i still win on post count
18:30	sfan5	Jordach: meh
18:31	MinetestBot	jmf Member 160 posts, registered on 2012-11-05 \| id: 3464
18:31	* Menche	registered almost a year before jojoa but has less than half the posts :(
18:31	Kacey	!sfu Dan
18:31	MinetestBot	DaN Member 42 posts, registered on 2013-04-06 \| id: 4992
18:31	sfan5	conclusion: Jojoa spams
18:31	Kacey	!sfu Dan D*
18:31	MinetestBot	Dan Duncombe Member 316 posts, registered on 2013-05-09 \| id: 5529
18:31	Exio4	!sfu Exio*
18:31	MinetestBot	Exio4 8New member 3 posts, registered on 2012-12-23 \| id: 3863
18:31	kaeza	lol
18:31	Menche	Dan Ducombe always top-posts
18:31	sfan5	!sfu yolo
18:31	MinetestBot	Yolo360 8New member 0 posts, registered on 2013-05-12 \| id: 5579
18:31	MinetestBot	yoloswag 8New member 0 posts, registered on 2013-02-24 \| id: 4407
18:31	Exio4	yoloswag
18:32	Exio4	seems legit
18:32	sfan5	yeah
18:32	Calinou	YOLO
18:32	Jordach	looks positively legitimate sir
18:32	Jordach	</british>
18:32	sfan5	!kick Calinou no YOLO allowed, rule 38
18:32		Calinou was kicked by MinetestBot: no YOLO allowed, rule 38
18:32	kaeza	/join #yolo
18:32		Calinou joined #minetest
18:32	Calinou	rule 38?
18:32	Exio4	he meant 34
18:32	Kacey	YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18:32	Exio4	lol
18:32	sfan5	Exio4: no u
18:32	Exio4	Cal I no u
18:32	Exio4	:D
18:32	sfan5	:D
18:33	Kacey	heh everyone spam #yolo
18:33	Exio4	here
18:33	* Exio4	runs
18:33	sfan5	no u
18:33	Jordach	next person to say that stupid word gets kicked
18:33	kaeza	stupid word
18:33	Menche	"that stupid word"
18:33	Kacey	that stupid word
18:33	sfan5	kaeza: you forgot the "that"
18:33	kaeza	D:
18:33		kaeza was kicked by Exio4: you forgot the "that"!!!!1111!!one!!!
18:33	* Exio4	runs
18:33	sfan5	Exio4: you forgot "eleven"
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18:33	Exio4	lol
18:34	Kacey	this channel falls apart without ChanServ because yoloswag
18:34	sfan5	^
18:34	kaeza	fak
18:34	Exio4	u
18:34	kaeza	no ops on ##minetest-es D:
18:36	sfan5	john_minetest: three
18:37	Jordach	there's a new button on my userlist buttons
18:37	Jordach	it's called nolo
18:37	sfan5	noyolo*
18:38	* Jordach	hover's over sfan5's nick
18:38	Kacey	YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18:38		Kacey was kicked by Jordach: NOLO!
18:38	Menche	YAY
18:38	Jordach	and there it is
18:38		Kacey joined #minetest
18:39	* Calinou	plays death animation in #minecraft
18:39	Kacey	i made a command to say that
18:40	lamefun	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=88910#p88910
18:40	* kaeza	puts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ on Kacey's head
18:40	Jordach	lamefun, second infraction with the pulling up of lies
18:40		LunaVorax joined #minetest
18:41	Jordach	once more and kick
18:41	Jordach	then the next three is kickban
18:41		salamanderrake joined #minetest
18:41	* Kacey	sings along
18:41	Jordach	please enjoy your day.
18:41	* Calinou	sings "Freenode Staff"
18:42	Jordach	^ getting on debian's user ignore since 2010
18:42	* kaeza	uses Holy Staff of Freenode +5
18:42	Jordach	MMO O'CLOCK
18:42	kaeza	the troll dies
18:43	* Jordach	wields dual swords
18:43	Jordach	Fun Fact: I sleep above my machete and have a rifle under the bed
18:43	Jordach	with armour piercing rounds
18:43	* Menche	gets on his server after a few days and it's griefed to pieces
18:43	Jordach	Menche, that's the usual MT server
18:44	kaeza	lol machetes are for pussies
18:44	kaeza	real men use katanas
18:44	Jordach	when i say rifle i mean M16A4
18:44	Calinou	G36 master race
18:45	Calinou	inb4 someone calls me noob weapon user
18:45	Calinou	</urban terror>
18:45	whirm	Jordach: I sleep above my bed, you should try it, much more confortable
18:45	Jordach	whirm, haha
18:47	lamefun	Jordach, are these threads lies?
18:47	Jordach	yes
18:47	lamefun	*posts
18:47	Kacey	the kitten generator is strictly BYOB
18:48	lamefun	pathfindings is there?
18:48	Kacey	Bring Your Old Bones
18:48	Jordach	4aiman was against the devs
18:48	thexyz	now then we don't have ugly +c
18:48	thexyz	https://encyclopediadramatica.se/index.php?title=Gay.pl
18:48	Calinou	0,0no +c? let's bet thexyz doesn't read this!
18:49	thexyz	Calinou: how's that? I'm not colorblind
18:50	Jordach	in other news: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmW3V-OpQPU&feature=youtu.be
18:50	Jordach	!title
18:50	MinetestBot	Jordach: TheJordach tries a double serving - YouTube
18:50	Jordach	of super hot chilli sauce.*
18:50	lamefun	Jordach, why is he against developers?
18:53	Jordach	i've had wasabi before; but i can take hotter
18:56	* Menche	is really annoyed at griefers right now
18:56	* ShadowNinja	had to make his server interact-on-request.
18:56	Menche	if i ever meet a griefer irl there will be blood
18:56	sfan5	^
18:58	Calinou	because the griefer is on his period as you meet him?
18:58	* Calinou	runs
18:58	Calinou	anyway, gtg
19:05	marktraceur	Menche: Yes, but how will you beat them up if you're covered in lava?
19:06	marktraceur	Actually I'm fairly sure that real life griefers are just called "muggers"
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19:20	webdesigner97	I'm having a big problem: My singleplayer map doesn't save anymore :(
19:21	kaeza	webdesigner97, permission problems
19:21	Calinou	webdesigner97, do you have write permissions to your world directory?
19:21	webdesigner97	it's my desktop. But I'll test it
19:23	webdesigner97	permissions are ok :(
19:23	Calinou	did you install any mod recently?
19:24	* Menche	's server says that map saving is disabled
19:24	kaeza	I had that happen too
19:24	* Menche	can not figure out why
19:24	BrandonReese	make sure your env_meta.txt or mapmeta.txt files aren't empty
19:24	Menche	it does save... sometimes
19:24	BrandonReese	mine quit saving after a crash and one or both of those files were blank, restoring them from backup fixed it
19:25	webdesigner97	hmm, ok. I'll check the files
19:25	Menche	i did change the map save interval
19:25	webdesigner97	cause on new worlds it works fine
19:25	webdesigner97	mapmeta.txt is empty
19:26	webdesigner97	what should it look like?
19:26	Menche	that's empty on mine too
19:26	BrandonReese	in 0.4.7 looks like map_meta.txt contains mapgen parameters
19:26	webdesigner97	w8, I paste from other world :D
19:26	sfan5	webdesigner97: e.g. like this: http://hastebin.com/rukifanula
19:26	pehjota	webdesigner97: Would you happen to have a backup of your world somewhere? Otherwise, do you remember what the seed was?
19:27	webdesigner97	sry, no backup :/
19:27	Menche	?
19:27	PilzAdam	sfan5, why are so many people voiced?
19:28	Menche	what does that mean?
19:28	sfan5	PilzAdam: "TODAY: OP and Voice Party"
19:28	webdesigner97	it works again :D THX very much
19:28	BrandonReese	webdesigner97 I would give what sfan5 pasted a try if you don't have backup
19:28	webdesigner97	that's what I did ;)
19:29	sfan5	webdesigner97: you will get world edges, because your seed is not the same as min
19:29	sfan5	*mine
19:29	webdesigner97	ah, no problem. it's ok
19:29	webdesigner97	I'm not going to travel that much
19:29	pehjota	webdesigner97: Newly emerged blocks in your world may not line up with older areas if you don't have the original seed.
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19:30	Menche	what is 'voice'?
19:30	Calinou	you can do several at once
19:30		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released \| RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev \| SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net
19:30	* Menche	just lost it whatever it is :P
19:30	PilzAdam	op party is over
19:30	Kacey	what? why?
19:30	Calinou	/deop name1 name2
19:31	sfan5	PilzAdam: but ChanServ is not back yet
19:31	PilzAdam	6 OPs are enough
19:31	sfan5	1 op would be enough
19:31	PilzAdam	not when there is a new netsplit
19:31	sfan5	..
19:32	sfan5	there is still a netsplit
19:32	Kacey	PilzAdam = buzzkill
19:32	pehjota	Menche: When a channel has +m, only users with +v can send messages to all other users in the channel.
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19:32	sfan5	ChanServ would have reset all the voice & op statuses and the topic once it returns
19:32	PilzAdam	if we are lucky then we can survive 6 more netsplits :-)
19:32	Menche	wb ChanServ!
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19:32	Kacey	i was just about to break out the pinata
19:33	Menche	who wrote the specialties mod?
19:33	Menche	it made 7890 files in my world folder
19:34	Exio4	PilzAdam: was i that bad as op? :(
19:34	Exio4	;P
19:34	sfan5	Exio4: no
19:34	sfan5	;P
19:34	Menche	each file contains a single number
19:34	PilzAdam	Exio4, ask ChanServ :-p
19:34	Exio4	inb4 you are worse than what you might think
19:34	* Menche	thinks there has to have been a better way of doing that
19:34	ShadowNinja	The 'NEWS' isn't really news anymore...
19:35	sfan5	more like 'OLDS' </shittyjoke>
19:35	Exio4	redditjoke*
19:36	Calinou	redditjoke?
19:36	Calinou	karma pls
19:36	Calinou	that's the joke
19:36	Exio4	lol?
19:37	Menche	there goes ChanServ
19:37	Calinou	(DVD) RIP ChanServ
19:37	Menche	that sounds like it was important
19:43	ShadowNinja	wb ChanServ, bye ChanServ, wb ChanServ, bye Chanserv...
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19:55	ShadowNinja	Menche: Or at least use a subfolder...
20:00	Guest99433	guest master race
20:00	Guest31024	stupid nickserv
20:01	NakedFury	no idea
20:01	Calinou_	op party is over
20:01	sfan5	john_minetest: PilzAdam decided tha party is over
20:01	marktraceur	john_minetest: Maybe you haven't and services are down, just a guess
20:01	kaeza_	because PilzAdam
20:01	marktraceur	Oh, fine.
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20:06	NekoGloop	well that took long enough, freenode.
20:07	NekoGloop	only an hour to join :P
20:07	Jordach	PilzAdam, in britain, cunt is used when asshole isnt enough
20:07	Jordach	for this case, it is
20:08	Calinou_	in soviet britain, bad words use Jordach
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20:28	Arkmabat	Is the actual source code in the cmake folder?
20:28	VanessaE	it's in minetestfolder/src
20:29	Arkmabat	With the usual windows download?
20:29	VanessaE	dunno about windows
20:29	VanessaE	but getting the sources is easy if you need them
20:29	VanessaE	https://github.com/minetest/minetest
20:29	VanessaE	("Download ZIP" on the right if you can't git clone)
20:30	Arkmabat	Cool, thanks.
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20:30	VanessaE	no prob.
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20:30	VanessaE	Arkmabat: also, you'll want minetest_game: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/
20:30	VanessaE	(the actual game content)
20:31	Arkmabat	Which would show rendering blocks logic
20:32	sfan5	the core game renders the blocks (minetest/minetest)
20:33	VanessaE	s/core game/engine/
20:34	VanessaE	the game content just defines what they look like and on a coarse-grained level, what their shapes are.
20:34	Arkmabat	Cool, thanks. I know a little about programming but theres a big jump it seems that I havent made in order to write a game. I'm comfortable with a writing a number guessing game in basic lol
20:35	VanessaE	writing a game is really as simple as writing a mod - you just need more core
20:35	VanessaE	code*
20:35	VanessaE	a game is just a collection of mods, often based on stuff from minetest_game
20:37	Arkmabat	Don't know much abouut irrlicht but it seems popular for 3d game rendering
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20:39	Arkmabat	Thanks again, i'll get to studying
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20:43	Calinou	fuf
20:45	sfan5	good night
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21:15	oxenfreedan	whats todays topic java?
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21:15	NekoGloop	Hello lamefun.
21:16	PilzAdam	oxenfreedan, today was OP party, but its already over
21:16	oxenfreedan	whats op party?
21:16	NekoGloop	op'ing everyone in the channel it looks.
21:17	NekoGloop	or lots of people
21:17	NekoGloop	idk, I probably missed it
21:17	PilzAdam	we had 16 OPs IIRC
21:21	lamefun	Disappearing and re-appearning blocks are annoying :( Does Minecraft have some proprietary magic to get rid of it or is it plagued by the same thing?
21:22	PilzAdam	lamefun, have you turned off anti-cheat?
21:23	lamefun	How can I turn anti-cheat off on someone else's server?
21:23	PilzAdam	tell the server admin to do so, if he doesnt then dont play on the server
21:24	lamefun	I know.
21:24	PilzAdam	or you can try to fix / implement better anti-cheat in the core
21:27	VanessaE	more irritating than blocks dis/reappearing is getting lag-teleported backwards. sometimes happens even at walking speed if the server's lagged enoughj.
21:27	VanessaE	-j
21:28	VanessaE	(which is why anti-cheat is disabled on my server)
21:28	PilzAdam	VanessaE, close it: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99058#p99058
21:28	VanessaE	closed.
21:29	PilzAdam	PM From: qweeqe; Subject: <Empty>; Text: "How do I do mods on minetest"
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21:30	hashpoundnumber	could anyone please let me know how the object of the game is different in multiplayer mode?
21:31	hashpoundnumber	i've already searched all of the wiki and read most of the wiki
21:31	VanessaE	multiplayer just means you play on someone else's server
21:31	PilzAdam	what do you mean by "object of the game"?
21:31	VanessaE	the "object of the game" depends on the server and that game mode it runs
21:32	VanessaE	PilzAdam: he means the ultimate goal of the game
21:32	hashpoundnumber	VanessaE, what types of things are the object of the game, typically?
21:33	VanessaE	hashpoundnumber: some servers, the object is to survive in a player-versus-player environment (think Quake and the like). Others the point is to build whatever you can imagine.
21:33	PilzAdam	hashpoundnumber, multiplayer is almost the same as singleplayer; there are just more people
21:33	VanessaE	hashpoundnumber: it's a question that can only be answered by the admin and maybe some players of the server you're thinking of playing on
21:35	hashpoundnumber	thanks
21:35	PilzAdam	hashpoundnumber, every heard of "Minecraft"?
21:35	PilzAdam	-y
21:36	hashpoundnumber	PilzAdam, yes but i;ve never played it before
21:36	PilzAdam	its pretty much the same there
21:36	PilzAdam	people set up servers, and define their own rules
21:36	PilzAdam	but the game itself doesnt have any rules
21:37	hashpoundnumber	so what would you gain in a PvP game if you beat another player?
21:37	VanessaE	hashpoundnumber: depends on the game - usually nothing.
21:37	VanessaE	you can get the player's stuff after a while
21:38	VanessaE	(bones)
21:38	VanessaE	PilzAdam: 20 minutes, wasn't it?
21:38	hashpoundnumber	what was it that attracted you all to this game?
21:38	PilzAdam	VanessaE, if its PvP server then I would set it to 0 if I would be the admin
21:38	PilzAdam	hashpoundnumber, the Lua API
21:39	PilzAdam	I code and dont play it
21:39	hashpoundnumber	lua api?
21:39	VanessaE	hashpoundnumber: originally I wanted to play around with something like redstone. found minetest + mesecons.
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21:40	hashpoundnumber	VanessaE, im sorry i dont know what you're talking about
21:40	PilzAdam	hashpoundnumber, an Aplication Programming Interface wich allows Lua scripts to run as mods on the server
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21:40	PilzAdam	they define game content, like nodes, items, crafting recipes etc.
21:40	VanessaE	hashpoundnumber: redstone is a feature of Minecraft that lets you build electronic circuits. Mesecons is a mod for Minetest that performs the same function.
21:41	hashpoundnumber	so the object of the game seems to be to build cool stuff and socialize. is this the same with minecraft or does it have other features that make the gameplay more exciting?
21:41	* Taoki	wonders when RBA will be back on IRC... haven't seen him in a few days
21:42	VanessaE	hashpoundnumber: minecraft has a totally different objective.. Look up Enderdragon.
21:42	VanessaE	but on the way toward that objective, yeah build, dig, socialize, maybe fight.
21:43	VanessaE	Taoki: his internet access is via a cell phone, which he said has a very limited bandwidth cap which, one exceeded, leaves him without any internet access at all.
21:43	VanessaE	s/one/once/
21:43	PilzAdam	hashpoundnumber, you dont need to build, you can also walk arround and look at the landscape, or go into caves and search rare ores; YOU set your OWN rules
21:43	Taoki	ahh...
21:43	VanessaE	he may be playing it safe and trying to stretch it out some
21:44	VanessaE	Taoki: he tethers his cell phone to his PC for the purpose (ew.)
21:44	Taoki	Why / when can he get real net?
21:45	VanessaE	he said it'll be some measure of several days before his "real" ISP of choice can hook him up, but at the rate it's going, it feels more like a measure of weeks :-/
21:46	VanessaE	(they originally claimed a timeframe that would have had him back up like two weeks ago)
21:46	PilzAdam	or hes not interested in Minetest anymore....
21:46	VanessaE	PilzAdam: trust me, he's quite interested, at least in the engine.
21:46	PilzAdam	maybe he got a GF ;-)
21:46	VanessaE	(minetest_game is a wholly different issue)
21:46	VanessaE	heh
21:47	kaeza	he got a Guardian Force?
21:47	PilzAdam	the last time I saw from him was something like "got a date, bye"
21:47	lamefun	PilzAdam, you code but don't play? O_o
21:48	PilzAdam	well, I play a bit, like 2-3 hours a week
21:48	kaeza	he doesn't play because he gets pwned by the noobest of noobs
21:48	PilzAdam	ehm... yes... in singleplayer
21:49	hashpoundnumber	ok so does minecraft have an actual PvP environment?
21:49	kaeza	https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_300510009.jpg <-- from my server
21:50	PilzAdam	kaeza, oh, that one, I was building a stair to the flying castle, but lag killed me
21:50	kaeza	yeah, "lag" :P
21:51	kaeza	(actually, yes, it was laggy :/)
21:51	PilzAdam	note to self: disable client side prediction if you build a hight stair
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21:55	PilzAdam	if anyone is bored and thinks that minetest_game is boring, try this: https://github.com/PilzAdam/pilztest
21:55	PilzAdam	ideas are welcome
21:58	NekoGloop	Why set stack_max to 20 on every single entry
21:58	NekoGloop	can't you override the standard settings.
21:59	PilzAdam	no
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21:59	NekoGloop	where are the standard settings, even...
22:00	PilzAdam	builtin/item.lua
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22:00	NekoGloop	Erm, can't you just alter the table's entry?
22:02	PilzAdam	not in a mod, no
22:03	PilzAdam	you cant rely on the mod load order, so it wont apply to all items
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22:05	VanessaE	you can override standard settings and rely on mod load order if you use optdepends.
22:06	VanessaE	(provided that which you want to override can be overridden at all)
22:07	NekoGloop	PilzAdam, "base" should load first anyway...
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22:57	Kacey	back
22:58	kaeza	forward
22:58	kaeza	oops :)
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23:17	LazyJ	Howdy, all. Is there a way to search specific minetest.net forum threads from within minetest.net forums?
23:18	VanessaE	use google for that. site:forum.minetest.net your keywords here
23:18	PilzAdam	yes, click on "search"
23:18	VanessaE	bbl
23:18	PilzAdam	google is evil, dont use it
23:19	LazyJ	The "search" searches forums, but I was hoping to be able to search within a specific, long, thread.
23:19	ShadowNinja	The forum search isn't even remotely usefull.
23:19	kaeza	^
23:19	ShadowNinja	There was a module installed that had advanced search features like that, but it is no more.
23:19	PilzAdam	well, of course you have to use the "advanced search" and switch to "show as topics"
23:19	LazyJ	What I'm looking for is information on how to prevent items from showing in RBA's Unified Inventory.
23:20	PilzAdam	add the groups not_in_creative_inventory=1 to the item
23:20	PilzAdam	-s
23:20	ShadowNinja	LazyJ: groups = {not_in_creative_inventory = 1}
23:21	LazyJ	Ok, thanks. ;)
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23:27	ShadowNinja	Mesecons re-added to my server. Hopefully they don't start eating CPU again...
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23:36	kaeza	is there a legit way of obtaining black dye in vanilla minetest_game?
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23:40	PilzAdam	kaeza, yes, there is
23:41	PilzAdam	but its not easy ;-)
23:41	kaeza	how?
23:41	kaeza	I tried getting every legit item from the inventory
23:41	kaeza	all I'm missing is black wool and dye :/
23:42	PilzAdam	I cant remember, but I know it is possible
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23:44	NekoGloop	there isn't a black flower, is there?
23:45	ShadowNinja	Yay, more greifes: http://imgur.com/2UAYVIK
23:45	NekoGloop	It's an art.
23:45	PilzAdam	ShadowNinja, try not baning them but just teleport them to 30000,10,30000
23:46	PilzAdam	(revoke fly and fast, of course)
23:46	ShadowNinja	That won't work if they have a travelnet with them.
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23:51	ShadowNinja	Oh, and rollback is giving me multiple greifer names...
23:51	kaeza	grepping shows that only thing in group basecolor_black are the black wool and dye
23:51	kaeza	so I need black dye to make black dye O.o
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23:58	Kacey	kaeza, xytest added a crafting recipe for black dye

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