IRC log for #minetest, 2013-06-21

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Time	Nick	Message
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00:04	PilzAdam	bye
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01:24	* arsdragonfly1	wishes minetest could ship with a font that supports more languages
01:24	arsdragonfly1	switched to another machine, and this is what it looks like:
01:24	arsdragonfly1	http://imgur.com/jMGr4GF
01:25	ch98	does anyone have time for testing my mod for any bug?
01:30	arsdragonfly1	what mod?
01:30	ch98	concrete 2.0
01:31	ch98	I don't have minetest playing computer anymore
01:32	Exio	arsdragonfly1: using freetype?
01:33	arsdragonfly1	yes
01:33	Exio	ah
01:33	Exio	i don't know
01:33	Exio	i just use the us keymap ;P
01:33	* arsdragonfly1	is from PRC
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02:22	VanessaE	dammit, they both left.  for Kacey or Uberi when one or the other returns:  I believe that placing-a-craftitem bug was fixed in technic git already.
02:22	VanessaE	also, hi
02:23	Exio	hi VanessaE!
02:26	kaeza	hi V
02:26	kaeza	which placing a craftitem bug?
02:26	kaeza	what*
02:28	VanessaE	[06-20 19:15] <Kacey> Uberi, deployers need to plant seeds...
02:28	VanessaE	[06-20 19:20] <Kacey> they just dont plant seeds because they are craftitems and not nodes
02:29	kaeza	ah
02:29	kaeza	hmm... I thought about giving it a shot
02:29	VanessaE	that's been fixed already in technic git
02:30	kaeza	hm?
02:30	kaeza	when?
02:30	VanessaE	well I thought it was, I could swear I saw a commit for that.
02:31	kaeza	maybe you mean my commit, but that does not place the intended item yet
02:31	kaeza	only the "real" item
02:31	VanessaE	oh ok
02:32	kaeza	for example, in the case of seeds, it would place the "seeds" item, not the plant in first stage of growth
02:32	VanessaE	right
02:33	kaeza	thing is, it's not as easy as placing a node
02:33	VanessaE	maybe it was the constructor that I'd seen talk of
02:33	VanessaE	*scratches head*
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02:33	VanessaE	oh well, wrong again :P
02:33	VanessaE	hey Menche
02:33	Menche	hi
02:33	kaeza	think it this way:
02:34	kaeza	hi Menche
02:34	kaeza	how can I know which node the item is intended to place?
02:34	VanessaE	it's impossible to know without having explicit support for whatever items you want to place
02:35	kaeza	the obvious approach would be calling the item's on_place directly
02:35	VanessaE	well you could do that but that feels like a security hole
02:35	VanessaE	I dunno why, it just does
02:35	kaeza	yup
02:35	kaeza	plus one thing:
02:35	kaeza	it requires a "placer" (i.e. a player)
02:36	VanessaE	that's easy enough - set placer to the user who placed the deployer.
02:36	kaeza	if I were to make it, I would have to create a "fake" player (a table)
02:36	VanessaE	(store the player name in the deployer's metadata on place)
02:36	kaeza	the original placer may not be online when the constructor is activated
02:37	VanessaE	they have to be?
02:37	VanessaE	damn.
02:37	kaeza	say you place a device
02:37	kaeza	I store your name, but later you logoff
02:37	kaeza	now I join and try to activate it
02:38	VanessaE	right
02:38	VanessaE	and my name gets written to the rollback log
02:38	kahrl	placer can also be an entity
02:38	kaeza	hmm
02:38	kahrl	you could associate an entity with the deployer
02:38	kaeza	seems fair enough
02:39	kaeza	assuming on_place does not depend on placer being a player
02:39	kahrl	right
02:40	kahrl	or just pass nil if you know on_place doesn't access it at all :P
02:40	kaeza	guess I could wrap the call to on_place with pcall
02:40	kaeza	if it fails, I assume the worst and just place the item
02:42	kahrl	the problem with making an entity is that between activation bugs, duplication bugs and /clearobjects they are kind of fragile
02:44	VanessaE	face it, entities are just busted :)
02:47	* sokomine	curiously inspects an entity
02:47	sokomine	they ought to remember their name, those entities. at least those mob ones...
02:47	VanessaE	see?  it's got a crack running right up its backside :P
02:49	* sokomine	picks up some tesafilm and puts the entity back together
02:50	sokomine	er. hm.
02:50	sokomine	why can't i say something on your server, vanessa? my client keeps crashing
02:50	VanessaE	??
02:50	kaeza	zing!
02:50	VanessaE	there's a known client crash bug on chat but I don't think my server's adding any unusual instability to that?
02:51	sokomine	i don't know. it just happened twice now
02:51	kaeza	VanessaE, I just use nil as placer, wrapping up the stuff with pcall
02:51	VanessaE	weird.
02:52	kaeza	if it fails, it just performs the normal "place object"
02:53	VanessaE	that sounds like it should work
02:56	kaeza	"deploy_node: item has on_place. trying..."
02:57	kaeza	and the stack vanishes (which means on_place gets called)
02:57	kaeza	but for some reason it's not "placing" the seeds...
03:01	Menche	does it bother anyone else that the main site doesn't have the minetest logo on it?
03:02	khonkhortisan	I didn't notice
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03:18	kaeza	behold! first automatic farm in Minetest!
03:18	kaeza	guaranteed to be at least 99% automatic
03:29	kaeza	VanessaE, https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/pull/33
03:30	Exio	aw man
03:30	Exio	http://dpaste.com/1258657/
03:33	kaeza	huh?
03:33	kaeza	what did you break this time? :P
03:34	Exio	ok, here
03:34	Exio	kaeza, compiled for android
03:34	Exio	with luajit :D
03:35	kaeza	ah
03:35	Exio	http://mldonkey.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=32068
03:35	Exio	this helped me
03:35	Exio	fwiw
03:39	Exio	wow
03:39	Exio	it works!
03:39	Exio	it is slow as hell
03:39	kaeza	nice
03:39	kaeza	lol
03:40	Exio	but works
03:40	kaeza	what device again?
03:40	Exio	lg p350 is the phone
03:40	Exio	a low-end one :P
03:41	Exio	03:40:33: ACTION[ServerThread]: EXio4 digs default:sand at (19,6,-78)
03:41	Exio	03:41:01: ACTION[ServerThread]: CHAT: <EXio4> works
03:41	Exio	:D
03:41	kaeza	:D
03:42	Exio	a liquid update
03:42	Exio	takes 20ms
03:43	kaeza	nice
03:43	kaeza	put a water source, wait all day for it to spread
03:43	kaeza	but at least it does :P
03:44	Exio	http://dpaste.com/1258688/
03:44	Exio	the liquidz update is something that i placed
03:46	kaeza	03:43:44: INFO[ServerThread]: liquidzupdate took 5216ms @_@
03:46	Exio	5seconds
03:46	Exio	all what i did was breaking a block
03:46	Exio	sand block without even water near
03:46	* Exio	placed and broke other block
03:47	Exio	oh man
03:47	Exio	i see
03:47	Exio	this is underclocked..
03:47	Exio	lol
03:47	Exio	BogoMIPS: 786.74
03:48	Exio	780 mhz, now this is working :D
03:48	Exio	03:48:18: INFO[ServerThread]: liquidzupdate took 2023790ms
03:48	Exio	what the fuck
03:48	Exio	that can't be legit haha
03:49	Exio	k, hit the ground
03:49	* Exio	waits for the respawn screen
03:54	kaeza	wat
03:55	kaeza	your timing functions is off by one... or two thousand
03:55	kaeza	are*
03:57	Exio	i just use TimeTaker
03:57	Exio	well
03:58	Exio	had to close the mt server
03:58	Exio	i'm using my android as wifi receiver
03:58	Exio	and the MT server was over-loading it (= lag)
04:01	sokomine	are you running the server on the phone? or a client?
04:12	Exio	server, of course
04:29	ch98	Can someone please test my concrete mod? I don't have an working minetest capable computer right now.
04:37	khonkhortisan	I can take a drying concrete out of the inventory and freeze the whole thing
04:38	khonkhortisan	and I can't tell the difference between drying and dried concrete without digging it
04:38	ch98	so can you use creative mode and take out reinforced concrete?
04:39	ch98	so 2.0 is working without bug for now?
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04:45	VanessaE	there, HDX supports digilines and mesecons lua controller now.
04:58	VanessaE	kaeza: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95873#p95873 (confirmed it on my server also)
04:59	kaeza	hrm
04:59	VanessaE	(I seem to recall you devised the microwave?)
05:00	kaeza	yeah
05:00	VanessaE	you bwoke it :D
05:00	kaeza	I'll take a look at it tomorrow
05:00	VanessaE	ok
05:03	VanessaE	you have push access now.  don't break anything :)
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05:05	kaeza	haha
05:05	kaeza	thanks :)
05:06	kaeza	now you force me to stay up late :P
05:06	kaeza	(as if you "forced" me)
05:06	VanessaE	lol
05:08	VanessaE	G*d I'm so lazy
05:08	VanessaE	that microwave needs HDX textures...and I've got TWO of the damn things here in the house I could have used
05:09	* kaeza	puts Gimp on VanessaE's head
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05:13	kaeza	DERP
05:13	kaeza	now this is the biggest derping I've seen
05:13	kaeza	if inv:room_for_item("dst",cooked.item) then meta:set_string("infotext", S("Oven output bins are full"))
05:13	kaeza	*genius*
05:17	kaeza	there you are
05:18	kaeza	https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/commit/8cb01f366d1a977062721eff80b5b8a67e6bbde7
05:19	VanessaE	there, took some photos of the better of the two, time to process 'em
05:19	VanessaE	heh, one little tweak eh? heh
05:20	kaeza	dunno why they worked the first time O.o
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05:23	kaeza	just noticed one little problem with the technic constructors: if you dig a node that drops several things (like crops), you only get one of the things
05:23	kaeza	e.g. either seeds *or* wheat
05:24	kaeza	fixing that would require rewriting the constructors
05:25	kaeza	ain't nobody got time fo dat
05:25	VanessaE	heh
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05:29	kaeza	also wished someone could fix those lighting glitches when using liquids
05:29	VanessaE	lighting glitches?
05:29	VanessaE	you mean the surface of water?
05:29	VanessaE	like how some spots are slightly darker than others for no reason?
05:30	kaeza	yeah. drop a lava source, let it flow for a bit, then you have to manually get rid of all the light nodes
05:30	VanessaE	oh yeah
05:31	kaeza	https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/commit/8cb01f366d1a977062721eff80b5b8a67e6bbde7
05:31	kaeza	derp
05:31	kaeza	paste fail
05:31	kaeza	https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1698027758.jpg
05:31	VanessaE	oh yeah
05:46	VanessaE	ok, microwave images done, let's see how they look :)
05:52	VanessaE	there, pushed to hdx git.
05:52	VanessaE	(and your fix is on the server)
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05:56	VanessaE	minor tweak to infotext for microwave
05:56	kaeza	okay. I'll clone HDX 64px again.
05:56	VanessaE	that too :)
05:59	VanessaE	and more tweaks..
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06:05	VanessaE	kaeza: pull from homedecor again, I had to do a few more tweaks to the microwave infotext
06:05	kaeza	okay
06:06	kaeza	HDX will have to wait until tomorrow
06:06	VanessaE	problem?
06:06	kaeza	got cut off @ 24 MB :(
06:06	kaeza	is there a way to clone in parts?
06:06	VanessaE	if you just git pull it should finish where it left off
06:07	VanessaE	maybe with --force
06:07	kaeza	hmm... it rm'ed the dir
06:07	VanessaE	hm, need to do images for lrfurn and still some stuff outstanding for default (like grasses, farming)
06:08	VanessaE	Unified Inventory needs an extra button for the search:  Show only minetest_game items
06:08	kaeza	it can search by mod name
06:08	VanessaE	yeah I know
06:09	kaeza	try using 'default'
06:09	VanessaE	but not everything is in default: :-)
06:09	VanessaE	e.g. I want a button that will show everything from default, wool, farming, etc etc etc all in one go
06:09	kaeza	that could be useful
06:10	kaeza	Receiving objects: 100% (8274/8274), 44.74 MiB | 532 KiB/s, done. :O
06:11	kaeza	at least I don't have to D/L the whole thing again when there's an update
06:12	VanessaE	I'm surprised you don't keep a copy on hand anyway :-)
06:12	VanessaE	I mean shit, everyone should use HDX and leave those old default textures behind for good :D
06:12	VanessaE	btw, can you add a proper tower case to your computers mod?
06:14	kaeza	lol
06:14	kaeza	of course
06:16	kaeza	oh you changed the stone texture
06:16	VanessaE	oh yes
06:16	VanessaE	there have been many changes and improvements
06:20	kaeza	the old one looked much more "plain" compared to this one
06:20	VanessaE	yes, because the old one was rendered :-)
06:20	VanessaE	this one's a real photo
06:20	VanessaE	most of the imagery has normalmaps, try it with RealBadAngel's bumpmapping fork :)
06:21	VanessaE	(most have specularmaps also but those aren't used yet)
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06:27	VanessaE	kaeza: come check this out:
06:27	VanessaE	(server, near the spawn)
06:28	kaeza	gimme a sec
06:29	VanessaE	crashola :)
06:29	VanessaE	(saw you time out)
06:29	kaeza	forgot to copy over the cache folder :)
06:29	VanessaE	heh
06:29	kaeza	there we go
06:29	VanessaE	I wish there were a way to prepare a clean cache folder without resorting to separate builds/minetest dirs or wiping my local copy
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06:31	kaeza	what do you mean?
06:31	VanessaE	well, I make that cache file by deleting ~/.minetest/cache , signing into my server, then signing out and ZIPping the result.
06:32	kaeza	ah
06:32	VanessaE	I wish there were a way to prepare/update it without having to do that every time
06:32	VanessaE	(else the cache would contain stuff from other servers, etc.)
06:32	kaeza	It's easy
06:33	kaeza	list the media files from your game dir, then for each file, calculate the MD5 (?) hash, and name the file as the hash
06:34	kaeza	client crash in 3..2..1..
06:35	kaeza	what are those things?
06:35	VanessaE	nodebreakers
06:35	kaeza	well, yes
06:35	VanessaE	but I don't know that they're used anywhere on the map normally
06:35	kaeza	I mean, are those items "in transport"?
06:35	VanessaE	but they're some kind of....zombie entities??
06:36	VanessaE	I have no idea, they were just ...there.
06:37	VanessaE	I just signed on and saw them sitting there like you see them now
06:37	VanessaE	second time I've had something like this happen (before, it was a single entity floating up at about the 3rd floor of the high-rise)
06:38	VanessaE	(but roughly in the same X/Z spot)
06:39	kaeza	what happens if you break the node?
06:39	VanessaE	dunno, I didn't try
06:39	VanessaE	I wanted to show you first.
06:40	kaeza	don't breakers have infotext?
06:40	VanessaE	dunno
06:40	VanessaE	well nothing special happened when I broke it.
06:40	VanessaE	did like it should have done
06:41	VanessaE	this would be a good opportunity for sfan5 or uberi or someone to add a //delete_entities command to worldedit
06:42	kaeza	maybe they are the "transported" entities used on the tubes
06:42	VanessaE	(so that a full /clearobjects need not be done just to get rid of one rogue)
06:42	kaeza	+1
06:42	VanessaE	that could be, but transported from where?
06:43	kaeza	well, could be that some tube was transporting, and the entities ended in unloaded blocks
06:43	kaeza	you know how well they behave
06:43	VanessaE	yeah, as well as a bratty kid who's had too much sugar :)
06:43	kaeza	:P
06:48	kaeza	SIGSEGV ._.
06:48	VanessaE	weird, pneumatic sand (vacuum) tubes don't detect the presence of those objects
06:48	VanessaE	it's like they don't exist at all
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06:49	kaeza	hmm...
06:49	VanessaE	kahrl: ^^^
06:50	VanessaE	any insight?>
06:50	kaeza	try removing this line: https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/blob/master/item_transport.lua#L208
06:50	kaeza	s/removing/commenting/
06:50	VanessaE	sure, I'll try that shortlyu.
06:50	VanessaE	-u
06:50	VanessaE	running a system backup at the moment
06:51	kaeza	well, if they are "tubed items" then they should be pointable with that line
06:51	VanessaE	right
06:51	kaeza	without*
06:51	VanessaE	lemme try it
06:52	VanessaE	done, let's see what the server does.
06:52	VanessaE	ok yep they're tubed items alright
06:53	VanessaE	the collision box is a full cube now
06:53	VanessaE	and I can "kill" them
06:53	VanessaE	I wonder if I should just set the collision box to something *really* small but still pointable?
06:53	VanessaE	like 0.01[^6]
06:54	kaeza	well, you could make a simple mod that removed entities in a given radius with a chat command
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06:55	kaeza	(or even one that only removed "tubed_item")
06:55	VanessaE	I'll just do 0.01 as a workaround for now until the real bug is fixed.
06:55	kaeza	you lazy you! :)
06:56	VanessaE	yup :)
06:57	VanessaE	make that 0.1
06:57	VanessaE	pushed to git.
06:57	VanessaE	server restarted,
06:58	kaeza	if entities supported multiple boxes for collision, there could be nice trains down there
07:00	VanessaE	they've gotta be the result of that entity duplication bug
07:00	VanessaE	afaik there's no way pipeworks could create those entities in that manner
07:01	kaeza	yup
07:06	kaeza	enough coding for today
07:06	kaeza	off to bed, nite
07:07	VanessaE	night
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08:01	VanessaE	think I'll follow kaeza's lead and go to bed also.
08:01	VanessaE	night all.
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08:47	Calinou	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95843#p95843 <= dat name in reference to a daft punk song
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09:31	Zeg9	Hi
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09:58	fylux	Hi
09:59	fylux	I wana say that the version of Minetest which is Ubuntu Software Center is the 0.3.1
09:59	fylux	It must bwe updated to the current version
10:00	fylux	Is there anbody here?
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10:01	fylux	Hi
10:01	TheLastProject	The thing is, fylux: Nobody really has control over when Ubuntu updates their stuff except Ubuntu
10:01	TheLastProject	Ubuntu is known to have a policy of not updating too often, which is fine for a fair bit of software, but terrible for online games
10:02	fylux	But we can send a email or something like that to request it, can't we?
10:02	TheLastProject	However, adding this PPA should allow you to stay up-to-date: https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/stable/+packages
10:03	TheLastProject	I'm sure someone would've already submitted it. I've heard enough horror stories of Canonical there that I can tell you that it's a lost cause, and people are forced to use this PPA system, even though it would be much nicer for Ubuntu users if their software center would keep them up-to-date
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10:03	TheLastProject	I'd tell you how to add a PPA under Ubuntu, but I honestly don't know as I haven't used Ubuntu in a few years
10:04	fylux	Right. Anyway I'm gonna send a email, because this version is too old.
10:04	TheLastProject	As long as you make sure to flame Canonical and not the Minetest team for something the Minetest team can't help :P
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10:10	Calinou	TheLastProject: other distros aren't better either
10:10	Calinou	but yes, they definitely need to rolling release more software
10:11	Calinou	they do it for firefox already
10:11	Calinou	chromium, libreoffice and games should all have it IMO :P
10:11	TheLastProject	Well, Mint seems to try to make it more bearable by adding additional repositories
10:11	TheLastProject	And I disagree with making LibreOffice rolling release
10:11	TheLastProject	An office suite is one of those programs that need to "just work" and of which you don't necessarily need the latest version
10:11	TheLastProject	I'm still happy with LibreOffice 3 :P
10:12	Calinou	mint doesn't do that for games
10:12	TheLastProject	But yeah, games, especially online games, should be rolling release
10:12	TheLastProject	Hmm, I see
10:12	TheLastProject	That sucks =/
10:12	Calinou	TheLastProject: libreoffice sometimes gets new features that are useful
10:12	Calinou	it would make LO haters slightly shut up more
10:12	TheLastProject	Hmm
10:13	TheLastProject	Well, I think Gentoo does it right
10:13	TheLastProject	By default: use stable, checked releases
10:13	TheLastProject	But can easily switch to rolling-release for either your whole system or per-package
10:13	Calinou	it's not like gentoo is easy to install or use
10:13	TheLastProject	Arch overdoes the rolling-release stuff by updating way early and breaking systems :P
10:14	TheLastProject	That's the problem, yeah, but their basic idea around rolling releases seems just perfect
10:14	TheLastProject	And they have a pretty big repository :P
10:15	Calinou	way smaller than ubuntu's 41000 packages
10:15	Calinou	ubuntu has more than any other distro
10:15	TheLastProject	It feels way bigger, though
10:15	Calinou	or not
10:15	TheLastProject	Perhaps Gentoo just has more useful packages?
10:16	Calinou	or not
10:16	Calinou	also, you can add additional repos to ubuntu easily :P
10:16	Calinou	PPAs ftw
10:17	TheLastProject	Well, yes, but PPAs are a bit... meh
10:18	TheLastProject	I mean, main just shouldn't be so outdated for packages which require to be up-to-date to be usable =/
10:19	Calinou	no distro is perfect :P
10:20	TheLastProject	True
10:22	Calinou	anyway, I always upgrade to latest non-LTS
10:22	Calinou	packages lag behind a bit, but it is acceptable
10:23	TheLastProject	Hmm
10:23	TheLastProject	I just let Gentoo use stable for all packages unless I know I really want them to stay up-to-date :P
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10:38	Calinou	I use my "update" script in my homedir that updates and compiles minetest, red eclipse and other stuff :P
10:40	TheLastProject	Ah, Sabayon
10:41	TheLastProject	My first experience with that was that they take the "extreme" stuff a bit overly serious
10:41	TheLastProject	As, on my first system update, I had an "extreme crash" and it wouldn't boot anymore :P
10:42	TheLastProject	Still, Sabayon is a fairly cool project, bringing Gentoo to those who are somewhat tech-savvy but not THAT tech-savvy, or people who just want an useable installer
10:44	TheLastProject	My first one was SUSe Linux 9.1
10:45	TheLastProject	With the amazing KDE3
10:50	TheLastProject	Heh
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11:04	Zeg9	There seems to be an encoding problem on hu/minetest.po
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11:40	TheLastProject	Haha
11:40	Calinou	pzap!
11:48	whirm	john_minetest: or halt
12:28	sfan5	VanessaE: I'll add that
12:28	sfan5	hello guys
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12:39	rubenwardy	Hello everyone!
12:53	rubenwardy	!up rubenwardy.no-ip.biz 80
12:53	ShadowBot	rubenwardy: rubenwardy.no-ip.biz:80 seems to be down
12:57	rubenwardy	http://www.yourworldoftext.com/minetest
12:57	rubenwardy	lol
12:57	rubenwardy	http://www.yourworldoftext.com/minetest#
12:57	rubenwardy	!up rubenwardy.no-ip.biz 80
12:57	ShadowBot	rubenwardy: rubenwardy.no-ip.biz:80 seems to be down
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12:59	rubenwardy	!up rubenwardy.no-ip.biz
12:59	MinetestBot	rubenwardy.no-ip.biz:30000 is up (2074ms)
13:00	rubenwardy	My web server is screwed
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13:05	rubenwardy	!up rubenwardy.no-ip.biz
13:05	MinetestBot	rubenwardy.no-ip.biz:30000 is up (1586ms)
13:32	rubenwardy	brb
13:58	* rubenwardy	is on rubenwardy.no-ip.biz:30000
13:58	rubenwardy	Anyone here?
13:59	Exio	TheLastProject: kde3?
13:59	Zeg9	rubenwardy: I'm here
13:59	TheLastProject	Exio: Eeyup
13:59	* Exio	's second distro was debian lenny with kde3 :P
14:03	Exio	sfan5: ping?
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14:44	harrison	Exio, try siduction -- it is based on debian unstable
14:44	Exio	i'm on debian sid, atm
14:45	harrison	look at siduction.org in any case
14:45	harrison	if you ever need to reinstall, try it
14:46	sfan5	Exio: pong
14:47	Exio	sfan5: where did you try to run the minetestserver binary? on my phone it is insanely slow :P
14:48	Exio	harrison: if i need to reinstall; i would go to gentoo
14:48	sfan5	samsung galaxy ace, 888MHz cpu
14:48	Exio	is it somewhat playable?
14:49	sfan5	yes
14:49	sfan5	but it is only playable if you use "disable_anticheat = 1"
14:49	Exio	oh
14:49	Exio	i'll check
14:52	rubenwardy	!c 135054^(1/3)
14:52	MinetestBot	51.3061174
14:53	rubenwardy	Is that cube route?
14:53	rubenwardy	yeah
14:54	Zeg9	!c 51^3
14:54	MinetestBot	132 651
14:54	Zeg9	ah, it is
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14:59	Exio	sfan5: thanks!
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15:49	rubenwardy	Just built a church on rubenwardy.no-ip.biz
15:53	Jordach	*of c55
15:53	rubenwardy	no, just a church
15:54	Jordach	rubenwardy, /join 0
15:54	Jordach	you leave all channel
15:54	Jordach	s*
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16:01	kaeza	mornings
16:01	sokomine	hi kaeza
16:01	kaeza	hey sokomine
16:01	PilzAdam	Hello everyone!
16:03	rubenwardy	adding diplomancy to CTF...
16:04	sokomine	ctf?
16:04	rubenwardy	capture the flag
16:04	sokomine	hm. how will that work? how many players do you need to get diplomacy to work?
16:04	rubenwardy	biggest pvp game since hunger games
16:05	rubenwardy	Declare war/peace/alliance with another team
16:05	rubenwardy	It is not just capture the flag, it is city war as well (Players build fortresses, cities and outposts to combat each other and to get as rich as possible.)
16:06	rubenwardy	Players = teams/nations
16:06	rubenwardy	different game mods
16:06	rubenwardy	modes
16:08	sfan5	PilzAdam: did you seriously just explain kahrl what map_meta is? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95952#p95952
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16:14	PilzAdam	spam: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95936#p95936
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16:17	rubenwardy	Capture the flag screenshot: http://ubuntuone.com/00ZVxq4gSFurSitmuymBqU
16:19	kaeza	Jordach, https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/pull/33
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16:25	BlockMen	does someone know why ":hud_change(hudid, "offset", {x=-106,y=2})" doesnt show any effect?
16:25	BlockMen	^hudid exists
16:25	PilzAdam	this is a stupid question
16:26	BlockMen	?
16:26	kaeza	BlockMen, had the same problem with 'text'
16:26	BlockMen	kaeza, ic. how have you solved?
16:26	BlockMen	*i have with image btw
16:26	PilzAdam	you come here and "this is broken, why?" instead of "here is my code: [link], am I doing something wrong?"
16:26	kaeza	my workaround is destroying the old item and creating a new one
16:27	PilzAdam	+say
16:27	BlockMen	kaeza, thanks. does it show bad effects like "blinking"?
16:27	kaeza	BlockMen, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=85764#p85764
16:27	kaeza	depends
16:28	kaeza	you first create the new item, then delete the new one
16:28	kaeza	*old one
16:28	BlockMen	ah..clever ;)
16:29	BlockMen	ok, will try out then. thx
16:29	kaeza	np :)
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16:31	rubenwardy	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95955#p95955
16:35	kaeza	rubenwardy, is that an entity?
16:35	rubenwardy	nope, node
16:35	rubenwardy	or two nodes rather
16:36	kaeza	ah
16:37	BlockMen	i hate the screenshot page...it needs endless for loading
16:37	BlockMen	and looks nice rubenwardy!
16:37	rubenwardy	yeah
16:37	Zeg9	rubenwardy, would you be interested in mines (exploding ones) for your server ? :P
16:38	rubenwardy	possibly
16:38	rubenwardy	Traps have mines
16:38	kaeza	BlockMen, ProTipâ„¢: disable images in your user settings
16:38	rubenwardy	*the trap mod
16:38	kaeza	makes the thing more bearable
16:38	Zeg9	ah, you probably don't need them then
16:38	rubenwardy	the only reason they shot through walls is because they are going to fast
16:38	rubenwardy	they are easily stopped by two walls
16:39	BlockMen	kaeza, i think i will stay away from screenshots page. i want pictures :)
16:39	BlockMen	*in general
16:39	rubenwardy	Ideally I would custommize kaeza's firearms mod for that usage, but I can not be bothered with complicated math
16:39	Jordach	kaeza, link me the pull again
16:39	kaeza	Jordach, https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/pull/33
16:40	rubenwardy	It can only see 15 blocks, and the bullets die after 2 seconds
16:40	Zeg9	rubenwardy: how would one go to the team gui ?
16:40	rubenwardy	/team
16:40	rubenwardy	or right clicking a flag
16:40	MinetestBot	maet
16:41	kaeza	!rev A Mercedes E
16:41	MinetestBot	E sedecreM A
16:42	rubenwardy	!rev aibohphobia
16:42	MinetestBot	aibohphobia
16:42	khonkhortisan	!rev sdrawkcab ni ti epyt ot evah uoY
16:42	MinetestBot	You have to type it in backwards
16:42	khonkhortisan	!rev racecar
16:42	MinetestBot	racecar
16:42	rubenwardy	aibohphobia is the fear of stuff like racecar
16:42	rubenwardy	what is it called?
16:42	rubenwardy	..phones?
16:42	rubenwardy	palinphones
16:43	Jordach	palindrones
16:43	kaeza	dromes*
16:43	khonkhortisan	yeah, with the d
16:43	rubenwardy	thats it
16:43	rubenwardy	!rev aibohphobia
16:43	MinetestBot	aibohphobia
16:43	rubenwardy	the fear of palinphones
16:43	rubenwardy	* palindrones palindrone
16:43	rubenwardy	dromes
16:43	kaeza	palindromes*
16:43	rubenwardy	meh
16:44	kaeza	!rev desuba gnieb ma I
16:44	MinetestBot	I am being abused
16:46	khonkhortisan	When you read text, you go left to right, then jump all the way to the left to read the next line. It would be easier on the eyes if every other line was written backwards, that is, boustrophedon text.
16:47	kaeza	he
16:48	kaeza	If you can read backwards perfectly, that could save tons of time :P
16:48	kaeza	could*
16:48	khonkhortisan	it should only take practice
16:48	MinetestBot	lagerregal
16:48	khonkhortisan	http://etyman.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/boustrophedon-english.png
16:48	khonkhortisan	I can read it, I'm just slow at it
16:49	BrandonReese	but how long does it really take your eyes to move to the begining of the next line
16:50	Zeg9	!rev ? uoy dna ,derob yllaer si 9geZ
16:50	MinetestBot	Zeg9 is really bored, and you ?
16:50	Zeg9	!rev was it a car or a cat i saw
16:50	MinetestBot	was i tac a ro rac a ti saw
16:50	khonkhortisan	it doesn't take that long, but you jump left repeatedly, while slowly moving right.
16:51	rubenwardy	!rev wasitacaroracatisaw
16:51	MinetestBot	wasitacaroracatisaw
16:51	khonkhortisan	!rev madA m'I madaM
16:51	MinetestBot	Madam I'm Adam
16:52	Jordach	oh fuck
16:52	Jordach	that one is one too
16:52	Zeg9	!rev oh fuck
16:52	MinetestBot	kcuf ho
16:53	khonkhortisan	land ho, too
16:53	Jordach	lol
16:53	Zeg9	!rev ver!
16:53	MinetestBot	!rev
16:53	khonkhortisan	!rev reversed message ver!
16:53	MinetestBot	!rev egassem desrever
16:53	Jordach	!
16:53	khonkhortisan	!rev egassem desrever
16:53	MinetestBot	reversed message
16:58	rubenwardy	!hdd
16:58	rubenwardy	!error
16:58	rubenwardy	$ ./jordach --joke
16:58	Jordach	minetest_game suggestion
16:58	rubenwardy	hmmm
16:58	Jordach	lets stop with the overlaying a texture
16:58	Jordach	for ores
16:59	Jordach	because bigger stone >
16:59	rubenwardy	I think it is broken
16:59	Jordach	texture = small ore
16:59	rubenwardy	$ ./Jordach --dump error.log
16:59	Jordach	so if we used a texture without any alpha used, (so stone + ore overlaid in gimp) then saved as a layer, then used, ore textures look the same without having to have scaling issues
16:59	Jordach	as seen in sphax's pack
17:01	Zeg9	Jordach: better fix the bug in the source
17:01	Jordach	fuck tha\t
17:01	Jordach	that*
17:01	Jordach	minecraft's method solves the problem without touching source
17:01	BlockMen	is it possible to register more than one globalstep? (when i call it more than once)?
17:02	* BlockMen	hopes not
17:04	rubenwardy	br
17:04	rubenwardy	brb
17:07	rubenwardy	Back!
17:08	Zeg9	wb
17:08	khonkhortisan	register_globalstep(func1) register_globalstep(func2)
17:08	khonkhortisan	Each mod should have no more than one
17:09	khonkhortisan	and no less than zero
17:10	Jordach	i saw this in #blender:
17:10	Jordach	<lsmft> no, just the tip.
17:10	Jordach	i sniggered
17:10	BlockMen	khonkhortisan, "Each mod should have no more than one" you mean that it is not possible, right?
17:11	kaeza	he means it's possible, but prolly better to have a single one
17:11	khonkhortisan	minetest provides no protection on multiple globalstep functions. It's required so that one mod doesn't have to leech onto another mod's function, but can have its own.
17:11	khonkhortisan	You should never need more than one globalstep function, it can call as many other functions as you want.
17:11	khonkhortisan	And you should only register it when your mod loads
17:15	BlockMen	ok, thanks for making clear
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17:19	* rubenwardy	is testing the dr who mod on rubenwardy.no-ip.biz
17:20	khonkhortisan_	much better, now it updates immediately. X was being rather slow.
17:20	Zeg9	rubenwardy: coming, I love dr. who
17:20	rubenwardy	It is not very good
17:20	rubenwardy	I might rewrite it
17:21	Zeg9	whats the link?
17:23	rubenwardy	http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4730
17:30	rubenwardy	lol
17:30	rubenwardy	It crashed!
17:30	rubenwardy	I am definitely going to rewrite that
17:31	Jordach	has anyone seen this: http://www.planetminecraft.com/texture_pack/64x132-dragon-dance-cartoon-rpg/
17:32	Zeg9	If we had a "portal-like" drawtype for nodes, it would allow making better tardis :p
17:32	rubenwardy	yeah
17:32	Zeg9	...and portals. everyone is happy.
17:32	Jordach	portal guns!
17:33	rubenwardy	his code is so messy
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17:42	Jordach	fuck me
17:42	Jordach	thats a lag spike
17:42	Jordach	it actually stopped spotify playing music
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17:46	rubenwardy	making the tardis interior spawner...
17:47	kaeza	Jordach, ever played mari0?
17:47	Jordach	YES
17:48	kaeza	I started playing a few days ago
17:48	kaeza	quite a cool crossover
17:48	* Jordach	drinks rockstar energy drink
17:48	Jordach	tastes like shit
17:48	Jordach	compared to monster
17:49	Jordach	i've realised i havent installed java
17:49	Jordach	also: drooling in anticipation for mgv7
17:50	kaeza	^
17:50	kaeza	java is good
17:50	kaeza	(the coffee, not the language)
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17:51	VanessaE	hi all  *steals kaeza's coffee*
17:51	kaeza	haha
17:51	kaeza	good timing :P
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17:51	kaeza	hola guilleelcapoextr
17:52	guilleelcapoextr	hi kaeza
17:52	Jordach	now thats just a fucking long of a nick
17:52	Jordach	hey VanessaE
17:53	kaeza	guilleelcapoextr, /join ##minetest-es
17:53	VanessaE	hey
17:53	kaeza	canal en español ^
17:53	guilleelcapoextr	ok
17:54	PilzAdam	should we add all the different language minetest channels (#minetest-de and ##minetest-es) to the main website?
17:54	kaeza	PilzAdam, +1
17:54	PilzAdam	is ##minetest-es registered?
17:54	kaeza	yes
17:54	VanessaE	I dunno about that, it may discourage people who can speak some english from coming here where most of us are
17:55	kaeza	VanessaE, the -es channel explicitly says it's "unofficial"
17:55	kaeza	and has a link back to here
17:55	VanessaE	kaeza: like that ever stopped anyone? :)
17:56	Jordach	nope.avi
17:56	PilzAdam	Ill add "Note: #minetest is still the place where most people hang arround"
17:56	kaeza	only a few users in -es
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17:57	kaeza	me, Exio, and leo_rockway
17:57	Jordach	$ jordach0.0.0.0 rubenwardy --joke --bad
17:57	PilzAdam	btw, we have MinetestBot in #minetest-de
17:57	* Jordach	should troll VanessaE's server by adding the DoS Shell
17:57	rubenwardy	a bit late
17:59	Exio	hi what
17:59	guilleelcapoextr	hi
18:00	PilzAdam	http://minetest.net/irc
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18:01	VanessaE	"wich is the main channel" <--- s/wich/which/
18:01	Jordach	thats a german bug
18:04	diemartin	that's*
18:05	PilzAdam	Jordach, yep, "wether" instead of "whether", too
18:05	rubenwardy	every one in here is so contary
18:05	rubenwardy	and yes, it is contrary
18:05	diemartin	lel
18:07	rubenwardy	a 1x2x1 tardis is not big enough :S
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18:08	rubenwardy	needs to be 2x3x2 or 2x4x2
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18:11	rubenwardy	what model formats does minetest support?
18:12	rubenwardy	does it support .obj?
18:12	rubenwardy	ok
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18:15	Jordach	aw
18:18	Jordach	omfg, i did 1/3 of default done
18:19	rubenwardy	how big is does a box in blender have to be, if I want it to be the same size as a node when I import it into minetest?
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18:21	Jordach	rubenwardy, use the player model as a guide
18:21	Jordach	because with my model, i aimed for the same size
18:23	rubenwardy	how do you import it?
18:23	rubenwardy	found .x addon
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18:25	Mallot1	hllo
18:25	Mallot1	hello
18:26	rubenwardy	How do you import the player model, jordach?
18:26	Mallot1	:/
18:26	Jordach	open the blend file in minetestgame/mods/default/models
18:26	Jordach	and look at the grid co-ords
18:26	Jordach	you cant import .x but you can export .x
18:26	Mallot1	i have edited the Lua code for mobf in sapiers mod framework mod: http://pastebin.com/H5V5cxTb
18:27	Mallot1	thats for the main.lua file
18:27	Jordach	why did you need to tell us
18:27	Mallot1	now the mobf should work
18:27	Jordach	Mallot1, post this on the relevant topic, not on IRC where it will get lost
18:28	Mallot1	i did
18:28	Mallot1	i wanted to tell the dev chat
18:28	Mallot1	but for some reason i cant chat there
18:28	Jordach	webchat is muted / banned in there
18:28	Mallot1	??
18:28	Jordach	its to stop people from spamming / annoying the core devs
18:28	Jordach	eg, random spammers
18:29	Jordach	or even random people
18:29	Mallot1	so everyones banned?
18:29	Jordach	just muted
18:29	Jordach	they cant talk. but they can listen
18:30	Mallot1	oh, how do you get unmuted?
18:30	Jordach	you cant
18:30	Mallot1	:/
18:30	Jordach	then everyone who uses webchat can resume spamming the place
18:30	Jordach	or just use a real IRC client like me / the rest of the world + dog
18:30	Jordach	such as hexchat for windows
18:30	Mallot1	awww
18:30	Mallot1	ok
18:30	Jordach	or irssi for linux terminals
18:31	Exio	weechat
18:31	Jordach	mIRC for those non-free bastards
18:31	Mallot1	im on windows8
18:31	Jordach	Mallot1, hexchat: http://hexchat.org
18:31	Jordach	get 2.9.5
18:31	Jordach	install it as non portable
18:31	Mallot1	LOL, I WAS ABOUT TO ASK THE Site
18:32	Mallot1	i got the rest
18:32	Mallot1	thx
18:32	Mallot1	done
18:33	Jordach	im always about from 4pm - 11pm (fridays) 4pm - 9pm every other day, patchy on saturday, but from 12:30am - 3am sunday (morn) im here
18:33	Jordach	(this is in GMT+0)
18:33	Mallot1	:p
18:33	Mallot1	ok
18:33	Jordach	ping my name and i'll be here in less than a min
18:39	Mallot1	is it IRCNet/
18:39	Mallot1	?
18:40	VanessaE	Freenode.
18:40	Jordach	freenode, #minetest
18:41	Mallot1	k thank
18:41	Mallot1	s
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18:43	Mallot1	lol
18:43	D-Man	its me Mallot1
18:43	Mallot1	lol
18:43	Mallot1	on
18:43	D-Man	hexchat
18:43	Mallot1	kk im going to log of wenchat
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18:44	Jordach	web*
18:44	Mallot1	ok
18:44	Mallot1	ok i got hexchat :D
18:44	Mallot1	thanks :)
18:46	Jordach	oh god i hate stitching mc style chests into the mt format
18:47	Jordach	its a BITCH
18:47	Mallot1	lol :D
18:48	Jordach	Mallot1, you dont know how painful it is
18:49	Jordach	chest_side done.
18:49	Mallot1	:P
18:50	Mallot1	i should start working on the mods
18:50	Mallot1	im a programmer myself
18:50	Mallot1	ill learn lua
18:51	PilzAdam	rubenwardy, the "Post your screenshot" topic is for posting screenshots, not advertising games ;-)
18:51	rubenwardy	it is a preview ! :P
18:52	Jordach	Mallot1, its a long journey in lua with many headaches
18:55	PilzAdam	sfan5, you speak Ukrainian, Norwegian, Dutch and Estonian? oO
18:56	sfan5	PilzAdam: no, I only speak I-can-read-the-warnings-given-by-weblate-and-correct-the-translations-accordingly
18:56	sfan5	(like "Space missing at the end.")
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19:11	rubenwardy	bye all
19:14	Jordach	slowly converting: http://i.imgur.com/UzNA4yf.jpg
19:14	Jordach	plus awesome seed
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19:30	BlockMen	Bye everyone
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20:17	Jordach	hey star
20:17	Calinou	hi
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20:22	desiderius	hello
20:22	Calinou	hi
20:22	Calinou	dat french guy
20:22	* Calinou	high fives desiderius for SFR
20:23	Calinou	same ISP as me :D
20:23	StarBlessed	Hey Jordach.  Sorry bro, I wasnt watching the chat ;)
20:24	Jordach	:P
20:24	StarBlessed	Ive been working my a$$ off trying to replace all my web based apps.
20:24	StarBlessed	I think Im almost there.
20:26	desiderius	thx Calinou :)
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20:26	StarBlessed	This is what Ive been working on Jordach : http://mg.viewskew.com/
20:27	StarBlessed	Oh, and this : https://d.viewskew.com/users/sign_in
20:27	Jordach	StarBlessed, nice
20:27	Calinou	lol, GMG
20:27	Jordach	very nice
20:28	StarBlessed	I know, GMG is a pain in the a$$, but its getting much better
20:28	Calinou	GMG, more nice looking than gnome 3 since 2012
20:28	Mati^1	http://mg.viewskew.com/u/starblessed/m/webm-test/
20:28	Mati^1	nice ;)
20:28	Calinou	the GNU weight :phoronix rolleyes:
20:29	StarBlessed	I needed to find a way to pull out of Youtube and G+.  Once I have everything stable...  thats me done.
20:29	Calinou	that's what she said
20:29	Calinou	also, thanks for not using youtube
20:29	Calinou	now 43 people do that in the world
20:29	Calinou	:/
20:29	StarBlessed	If "she's" pulling out, it means she has a bigger one than you...  Thats a concern.
20:30	Calinou	lol
20:30	Mati^1	yep not youtube ;)
20:30	PilzAdam	+1 for not using google products
20:30	Calinou	youtube is meh
20:30	* Calinou	only uses gmail
20:30	Calinou	pretty much
20:30	StarBlessed	FOSS all the way baby!
20:30	Calinou	chromium is not really a google product
20:30	Jordach	actually
20:30	Jordach	it still syncs
20:30	Calinou	StarBlessed, inb4 proprietary zealots disagree
20:30	Calinou	Jordach, I don't log in to chromium
20:31	Jordach	i dont think google is that bad, nor do i think theyre awesome
20:31	StarBlessed	Chrome is the worlds largest and most accepted Malware to date.
20:31	Calinou	and I tweaked it to enhance privacy, and I use adblock
20:31	Jordach	the search is really good
20:31	Calinou	fear me, phoronix
20:31	Calinou	StarBlessed, chromium is a great and fine browser
20:31	Calinou	i promote it to people I see :P
20:31	StarBlessed	LOL!
20:31	Calinou	but I tell them chrome sucks :P
20:31	Jordach	although im sure NSA will probably scream at the things i look at
20:31	Calinou	firefox takes at least 3 seconds to start... on a SSD
20:31	Calinou	Jordach, MLP? :phoronix rolleyes:
20:32	Jordach	Calinou, nope
20:32	StarBlessed	Chromium is fine, at least you can play with the code.  Its being dropped by google though
20:32	Calinou	out of phoronix rolleyes for 15 minutes
20:32	Calinou	StarBlessed, source?
20:32	PilzAdam	Calinou, why do you care about starting time? I usually have FF open all the time
20:32	StarBlessed	One sec, Ill grab it for you
20:32	Calinou	PilzAdam, that's just me ;)
20:32	Calinou	PilzAdam, it also is a bit slower in general for loading pages
20:32	Calinou	and some parts of it, such as installing plugins, is very slow compared to chromium
20:32	Calinou	StarBlessed, well, I doubt it personally
20:33	Calinou	has it been confirmed, or is it just a rumor
20:33	Calinou	google is fairly friendly to open source usually
20:33	PilzAdam	you can decrease page loading time a lot
20:33	StarBlessed	I should specify.  Its confirmed they are dropping support for the rendering engine.
20:33	Jordach	no javascript
20:33	StarBlessed	I cant be sure that they will continue to release their own engine under GPL
20:34	PilzAdam	e.g. use pipelining
20:34	Calinou	they'll switch to "blink"? not new at all
20:34	Calinou	PilzAdam, also, chromium has better HTML5 compat
20:34	Jordach	webkit is a fine piece of engine
20:34	Calinou	yep, but blink will probably be better
20:34	Calinou	google is not a company that makes things that regress
20:34	Jordach	blink and the page loads
20:34	StarBlessed	Yeah, thats the one.  It probably will be, but no source code.
20:35	Calinou	I doubt it will be proprietary
20:35	Jordach	considering android, chromium, Dart, ehm
20:35	Jordach	google loves Open Source
20:35	Exio	Calinou: firefox is way tweakable than chrom*
20:35	Calinou	yes and?
20:35	StarBlessed	Ill be on FF; Ubuntu Touch and Mint
20:36	Exio	i prefer firefox because that ;P
20:36	Calinou	tweakability is a false problem, except if the lack of tweakability gets in your way
20:36	Exio	gnome3 devs ^
20:36	StarBlessed	Well thats interesting...
20:36	Calinou	I don't tweak stuff I use much
20:36	StarBlessed	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blink_(layout_engine)  They seem to have altered the license since last I saw...
20:37	Exio	i just tweak it one time and i'm a hardcore-user of profiles
20:37	Exio	(plus addons like foxyproxy, tab mix plus, and so on)
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20:41	StarBlessed	There is only 2 things I like about chromium over FF.  1) the speed.  loading and rendering is lightening quick on chromium.  2) the unibar in chromium.  Instant search results.  There are tweaks for FF, but they are better implemented in chromium.
20:42	Jordach	or that the fact google can test builds using their own search engine
20:42	Jordach	to check pages with bugs
20:44	StarBlessed	See, those things dont affect em directly, so it doesnt really worry me.  After using Chromium for so long, I find it really hard to go back to FF.
20:45	Calinou	unibar is a great idea and as of today, only chromium has it.
20:45	Calinou	GENINUS MOZILLA
20:45	StarBlessed	Exactly.
20:45	Exio	chromium is way limited to what i use
20:45	Exio	i'm used to use*
20:45	Calinou	really, comparing firefox to chromium is like comparing AMD and intel or AMD or nvidia or GIMP and photoshop or LO and office :P
20:45	StarBlessed	I think there was a plugin for it on FF...
20:46	StarBlessed	AMD + GIMP = AWESOME!
20:46	Calinou	but chromium isn't more expensive than firefox :-)
20:46	Calinou	GIMP and LO are good, I use them often.
20:46	StarBlessed	I used to use GIMP to repair photos.
20:46	Calinou	GIMP support of windows and OS X isn't that good though (no wonder why :P)
20:46	Calinou	windows support is decent, OS X really meh
20:47	Exio	Calinou: foxyproxy, ghostery, https everywhere, firebug, requestpolicy, tab mix plus, firefox profiles
20:47	Exio	get them in chrom*, and i switch
20:47	StarBlessed	True, but I use Mint ;)
20:47	StarBlessed	AdBlock Plus and Stealthy are there.
20:47	StarBlessed	I use them
20:48	StarBlessed	No script is too I think
20:48	Calinou	chromium also has lots of plugins :P
20:48	Calinou	adblock/widgetblock, all I use
20:48	Exio	i just say, ffx is the browser that looks in the way you want it to
20:49	Exio	chrom* are the browsers like "KISS" without a lot of things to tweak
20:49	Exio	different tastes when browsing
20:49	Exio	2.5gb of ram usage with 250 tabs
20:49	Calinou	it's not like xubuntu is too simple after all, I like simplicity sometime :3
20:50	Calinou	Exio, FF uses more RAM at start but less with a lot of tabs generally
20:50	Exio	exactly
20:50	Calinou	250 tabs is totally unrealistic IMO :P
20:50	Calinou	I have 40 at most
20:51	Jordach	<Calinou> it's not like xubuntu is too simple after all, I like simplicity sometime :3
20:51	Jordach	use windows 8 then
20:51	kaeza	http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Rob/dontlook.png
20:51	StarBlessed	Chromium sandboxes each tab, it will always require more RAM in the long run.  But its the price you pay for the safety of each individual tab
20:52	Exio	if with sandbox you mean start 4000 threads for every image, yes :D
20:52	Exio	i would like FFx using more threads
20:52	Exio	but not in that way
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20:53	StarBlessed	Thats not what I meant.  You know it.
20:53	StarBlessed	The problem with FF, is that if one tab crashes for any reason, it usually kills the whole browser
20:54	PilzAdam	john_minetest, basically limiting the functions that can be accessed
20:54	Calinou	tab crashing almost never happens to me
20:54	Exio	Calinou: "Close other tabs" button http://cadoth.net/~exio4/private/ffx_tabs.png
20:54	Jordach	same here
20:55	StarBlessed	john_minetest: the idea is that when you open a tab in chomium, it starts a new instance of the browser.  that way, if it crashes, it doesnt affect the other tabs.  Also, each tab is supposed to be secure, in that it has very limited external interaction.
20:55	Calinou	noscript, overrated since 2002®
20:55	Calinou	StarBlessed, also, won't multiple threads increase performance?
20:55	Calinou	since they are managed differently by the CPU?
20:55	StarBlessed	In theory, yes.
20:55	Exio	[17:52:45] <Exio> i would like FFx using more threads
20:55	Exio	[17:52:56] <Exio> but not in that way
20:55	Calinou	john_minetest, I used to use click-to-plugin but I don't anymore
20:56	Calinou	I block third party cookies but I save normal cookies
20:56	Calinou	oh and I use "do not track" :P
20:56	PilzAdam	Calinou, noscript isnt overrated, it should be in all browsers by default
20:56	Exio	PilzAdam: +1
20:56	* Calinou	would rather see something builtin chromium that disallows sound playing sites
20:56	PilzAdam	well, except IE, but thats fucked up anyways
20:56	kaeza	Calinou, +1
20:57	StarBlessed	PilzAdam: +1000000000000000000
20:57	Calinou	StarBlessed, int16 overflow
20:57	Jordach	IE is only meant to download other browsers
20:57	Exio	> int16
20:57	Exio	> 2013
20:57	Calinou	AMD approves, Exio
20:57	StarBlessed	Calinou: Unknown has caused an error in unknown.  unknown will now close.
20:57	Exio	no, intel does
20:57	Calinou	Jordach, just like nouveau and radeon :-D
20:57	PilzAdam	also auto-block all websites that use flash and send an e-mail to the host that says "Y U NO HTML5?!?"
20:58	Exio	implement it into minetest webrowser PilzAdam!
20:58	Jordach	Flash is dying
20:58	Calinou	fortunately, Jordach
20:58	Jordach	but still considered industry standard
20:58	Calinou	flash is abandoned for linux already
20:58	Exio	for linux unless you use chrome*
20:58	Exio	ftfy
20:58	Calinou	oh also: how about we fight H.264 vs VP8 :phoronix rolleyes:
20:58	PilzAdam	R.I.P. gnash
20:58	Calinou	(I can use phoronix rolleyes again, I regenerated one)
20:58	Calinou	PilzAdam, lol, flash 7 support only
20:58	Jordach	because go on FB and look at the games, theyre all flash
20:59	kaeza	lol fb
20:59	Calinou	kaeza, +1
20:59	PilzAdam	-1 for FB
20:59	Exio	is FB framebuffer?
20:59	Exio	or what? :>
20:59	StarBlessed	VP8 is the better technology, H.264 (or x.264), is the more prevalent.
20:59	Calinou	some french website about hardware sometimes posts contests: 50% of them use facebook
20:59	Jordach	because of the industry
20:59	Calinou	lots of people complain about it, sometimes including me :P
20:59	Jordach	Calinou, you always complain
20:59	StarBlessed	Agreed ;)
20:59	Calinou	Jordach, this includes the one with the 5000€ PC :P
21:00	* Calinou	uses github and reddit
21:00	PilzAdam	john_minetest, and IRC ;-)
21:00	Calinou	if both can be considered social networks
21:00	Exio	john_minetest: diaspora!
21:00	Calinou	i don't
21:00	* StarBlessed	is running a Diaspora pod!  ;)
21:00	Calinou	Jordach, the industry, weird and evil at the same time since 2002
21:00	Exio	aw
21:00	Jordach	Calinou, nope, the industry has been controlled by hollywood for years
21:00	StarBlessed	Granted the most used tag on my server #nsfw
21:00	Calinou	hollywood is weird and vil
21:00	Exio	and by ponies john_minetest
21:00	Calinou	evil*
21:01	StarBlessed	IRC is pultiplayer notepad.
21:01	PilzAdam	john_minetest, XChat has a "add to friends" button
21:01	Calinou	Exio, github uses octocats, not ponies :(
21:01	StarBlessed	multiplayer
21:01	PilzAdam	OCTOCATS!!!!
21:01	Calinou	oh, "friend" in xchat notifies you on join
21:01	Calinou	TIL about friend on xcha
21:01	Calinou	xchat*
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21:01	Calinou	I knew about it back when I used konversation
21:01	* john_minetest	puts an octocat on PilzAdam's head
21:01	Calinou	yes, I used konversation on gnome 2 for 1 year
21:01	PilzAdam	:D
21:01	* Calinou	puts a pony on john_minetest's head
21:01	Calinou	[vote which pony now]
21:02	Exio	it is crap anyway
21:02	PilzAdam	derpy (because gronkh)
21:02	* Calinou	votes PilzAdam
21:02	kaeza	Derpy
21:02	kaeza	:D
21:02	Exio	because ISON and not MONITOR here
21:02	Exio	and things like that
21:02	Calinou	derpy doesn't exist since long time ago, kaeza
21:02	PilzAdam	its the only one I know...
21:02	kaeza	^
21:02	Exio	i only know rainbow dash
21:02	Calinou	some guy on a minecraft server said so :P
21:03	Calinou	Exio, too much minecraft forums? :>
21:03	Exio	no, ##someminecraftserver
21:03	StarBlessed	SMOKO!
21:03	PilzAdam	Calinou, Derpy is censored because people dont like retards
21:03	Calinou	yep
21:03	Exio	Calinou: i don't know more ponies because i'm not a brony like you ;>
21:03	Calinou	it was judged offensive
21:04	Calinou	Exio, no u
21:04	Exio	<3
21:04	PilzAdam	oh, /me just noticed that it looks like /me knows something about ponies...
21:04	Calinou	PilzAdam, doesn't make you a brony :P
21:04	PilzAdam	just a very famous LP of MC in germany has the animalbikes mod and he uses Derpy all the time
21:05	PilzAdam	yes, I watch a MC LP, over 1000 episodes so far
21:05	Calinou	"animal bikes" lol'd
21:06	* Calinou	uses PilzAdam for that
21:06	Exio	what is MC LP?
21:06	Calinou	or just red eclipse player
21:06	Calinou	Exio, minecraft let's play
21:06	Exio	ah
21:06	Calinou	or midnight commander lollipop|little pony
21:08	Exio	wtf
21:08	PilzAdam	lol, voted
21:09	Calinou	john_minetest, s/pinky/pinkie
21:09	Calinou	you can't vote PilzAdam? sucks
21:09	PilzAdam	hm?
21:09	Calinou	meh, no
21:10	PilzAdam	awww, who voted "Rarity"?
21:10	Calinou	:phoronix happy face:
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21:11	Calinou	O_o votes are updated live
21:11	Calinou	2 rarity now
21:11	PilzAdam	ok, who used a proxy to vote "Rarity" again?
21:11	* Calinou	saps PilzAdam's dispenser then backstabs PilzAdam
21:11	Calinou	that was me!
21:12	* Calinou	gets shot by PilzAdam's sentry
21:12	Calinou	no, I only voted once
21:12	Jordach	that was not Calinou but me
21:12	MinetestBot	/me is PilzAdam's sentry
21:12	Calinou	rarity master race
21:12	Jordach	you dont count MinetestBot
21:13	Jordach	50/50 \o/
21:13	Calinou	john_minetest, how did you find out their names :P
21:13	Jordach	derpy v rarity
21:13	Calinou	some other pony has been voted
21:13	Calinou	inb4 Taoki voted :-)
21:13	Exio	Calinou is the "some other pony"
21:13	Exio	i guess
21:14	Exio	:>
21:14	Calinou	no, that's princess Exio
21:14	Exio	why princess
21:14	Exio	is there a pony called princess something
21:14	Exio	?
21:14	Calinou	:phoronix happy face:
21:15	Calinou	oh, rarity is first again
21:15	Calinou	Exio, did you vote?
21:15	Exio	to what
21:16	Exio	i mean, what pony
21:16	Calinou	Exio, http://strawpoll.me/128698
21:16	Exio	i mean, what pony
21:16	Calinou	choose one?
21:17	PilzAdam	lol, searched for ":phoronix happy face:" in ixquick, only result: IRC Log for #minetest: "<Calinou > :phoronix rolleyes:"
21:17	Exio	here
21:17	Calinou	PilzAdam, BO$$ agrees
21:17	Exio	PilzAdam: seems legit
21:18	Calinou	PilzAdam, let's say pony names and "MLP" so often so that we appear first
21:18	Calinou	minetest will be more popular >:D
21:18	Exio	but bronies :(
21:18	Exio	we will have more Calinou after that!
21:18	PilzAdam	s/Calinou/Taoki
21:18	Calinou	more spies sapping PilzAdam's sentries and dispensers
21:20	PilzAdam	wow, "9 total votes"
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21:20	Calinou	when you vote, please tell you did it ;)
21:20	Calinou	hey BackupCoder
21:20	PilzAdam	post that link in other channels too
21:21	Calinou	let's post it in #freenode, #ubuntu and ##linux
21:21	Calinou	oh and #minecraft
21:22	PilzAdam	or get freenode staff to post a global notice
21:22	sfan5	"let's post it in #freenode" O.O
21:22	sfan5	sure
21:22	sfan5	the freenode staff will just make a random wallop
21:24	Jordach	i might install hackintosh and actually make 0.4.7 intel build of minetest
21:24	Jordach	because im tired of the bullshit
21:24	Jordach	ch98 cant understand cmake
21:26	Calinou	sfan5, "freenodestaff - Vote for the pony that will be put on john_minetest's head! tip: Rarity is best pony!"
21:26	sfan5	Calinou: "freenodestaff - Vote for the pony that will be put on john_minetest's head! tip: Rainbow Dash is best pony!"
21:26	PilzAdam	Calinou, no u
21:27	Calinou	oh, you're the guy who voted rainbow dash :P
21:27	Calinou	john_minetest, probably gigabyte or MSI
21:27	* PilzAdam	voted derpy
21:27	sfan5	Calinou: yep
21:27	Calinou	one has "sniper" mobos, one has "super RAID" afterall
21:27	Calinou	:-)
21:27	Calinou	PilzAdam, derpy still doesn't exist anymore :P
21:28	PilzAdam	shes always in your heart
21:28	Calinou	firebug is best pony!
21:29	Calinou	john_minetest, you should edit poll to add more ponies, would be better :P
21:29	Calinou	it looks like you know all pony names now :phoronix rolleyes:
21:29	* Calinou	has 1 phoronix rolleyes left
21:29	* PilzAdam	voted /me :D
21:29	Calinou	WTF are these
21:30	Calinou	voted PilzAdam :3
21:30	sfan5	100% voted for PilzAdam
21:30	Exio	[18:24:28] <Jordach> i might install hackintosh and actually make 0.4.7 intel build of minetest
21:30	Exio	ppc you mean
21:30	Exio	he already compiled a intel one
21:30	PilzAdam	john_minetest, "Piña Colada" oO
21:31	Jordach	Exio, im using intel here
21:31	Jordach	and fuck PPX
21:31	Jordach	PPC*
21:31	Jordach	its old.
21:31	Jordach	its dead.
21:31	Calinou	john_minetest is beyond us in terms of pony knowledge
21:31	Exio	he uses a ppc
21:31	Calinou	he beats me :<
21:31	sfan5	Jordach: you might actually just use VirtualBox
21:31	Jordach	ew
21:31	Jordach	too slow
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21:31	Jordach	i'd prefer some speed
21:31	Calinou	I accidentally my IRC client
21:32	Calinou	seems legit, wikia
21:32	* Calinou	sends to themself a "do not click" notice
21:32	Exio	john_minetest: 60 FPS with minecraft + normal + stuff without optifine
21:32	Exio	er
21:32	Exio	Jordach: *
21:32	Calinou	generally, when I discover a new wiki, I tend to browse just about every single page
21:32	* Calinou	did this with minecraft wiki and TF2 wiki
21:32	Exio	the VM here with a low-end cpu and mid-end but-old cpu
21:32	Exio	s/cpu/gpu
21:32	khonkhortisan_	using a gender-neutral term while talking about yourself in third-person?
21:34	* Calinou	often does that
21:34	* Calinou	blew themself up using their own rocketlauncher
21:35	Jordach	why am i suddenly doing this: http://xkcd.com/214/
21:36	khonkhortisan	I haven't seen exit.
21:36	PilzAdam	john_minetest, thats a message from FF, you should exit
21:36	PilzAdam	like there are "crash" buttons all over windows, they are just not named "crash""
21:37	PilzAdam	they usually have a name that ends on .exe
21:37	PilzAdam	e.g. explorer.exe
21:37	khonkhortisan	Fatal error: Virus detected. [Cancel (grayed out)] [Install Virus]
21:39	Calinou	[error] could not find an internet connexion, do you want to search problem on internet
21:39	Calinou	^ windows vista+
21:39	khonkhortisan	keyboard not detected. press any key.
21:39	sfan5	"reddits down, better check reddit."
21:39	Calinou	gtg, night
21:39	khonkhortisan	I don't get the search crash on internet button
21:41	Calinou	currently 3 votes for PilzAdam in second straw poll
21:41	* PilzAdam	wins
21:41	Calinou	derpy hooves and rarity are still equal
21:41	khonkhortisan	I was going to vote for piña colada, then I realized it was about horses
21:42	Calinou	what's "pina colada", other than an horse, khonkhortisan
21:42	khonkhortisan	a sobe drink
21:42	khonkhortisan	also an alcoholic cocktail
21:43	Calinou	idea: let's put PilzAdam, rarity and derpy hooves on john_minetest's head
21:43	Calinou	all three
21:43	Calinou	they all have 3 votes after all
21:43	Exio	[18:42:33] <khonkhortisan> also an alcoholic cocktail
21:44	Exio	i didn't know pin~a colada was more than that ^
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21:44	sfan5	Kitten
21:44	PilzAdam	PilzAdam
21:45	MinetestBot	me
21:45	khonkhortisan	derpy
21:45	* john_minetest	's hair
21:45	khonkhortisan	is unoffical
21:45	MinetestBot	oops, I meant PilzAdam
21:45	* Calinou	votes rarity again
21:45	Calinou	but better because rarity
21:45	khonkhortisan	MinetestBot!
21:45	MinetestBot	khonkhortisan!
21:45	MinetestBot	oops, I meant myself
21:45	* Exio	votes for Calinou
21:45	MinetestBot	oops, I meant PilzAdam
21:45	MinetestBot	oops, I meant myself
21:45	Calinou	khonkhortisan, didn't it used to be official
21:45	khonkhortisan	You didn't mean me? :(
21:45	MinetestBot	oops, I meant PilzAdam
21:46	MinetestBot	staph!
21:46	Exio	haha
21:46	MinetestBot	NO!
21:46	khonkhortisan	it was the fans' name for the horse that looked derpy, then it turned official I think
21:46	MinetestBot	s/ph/hp/
21:46	MinetestBot	/me slaps hisself with PilzAdam
21:46	MinetestBot	>:(
21:46	khonkhortisan	herself?
21:46	sfan5	khonkhortisan: you're right
21:46	MinetestBot	oh, right
21:46		ungali_mobile joined #minetest
21:46	Exio	lol
21:46	khonkhortisan	I think I bot would know what a bot is
21:46	MinetestBot	ungali_mobile: hello, i'm a bot
21:46	khonkhortisan	*a bot
21:46	MinetestBot	*looks down* yep, female
21:47	Calinou	O_o a character in a series that is inspired from fan stuff?
21:47	khonkhortisan	lol
21:47	Exio	XD
21:47	sfan5	:D
21:47	Calinou	so MinetestBot is a pony
21:47	MinetestBot	^ could be
21:47	Exio	(not)
21:48	sfan5	!title
21:48	MinetestBot	sfan5: xkcd: Open Source
21:48	MinetestBot	aww, he left
21:49	nyuszika7h	hi
21:50	Calinou	john_minetest's list didn't mention ponies that are much more popular, heh
21:50	MinetestBot	/me thinks she has a dissociative identity disorder
21:50	Calinou	hi nyuszika7h
21:50	Exio	hi nyuszika*
21:50	MinetestBot	the other part of me thinks PilzAdam should use !me not !msg
21:50	Calinou	nyuszika7h, http://strawpoll.me/128698
21:51	nyuszika7h	no u
21:51	MinetestBot	Nope, /me doesnt think so
21:51	* MinetestBot	but I do
21:51	Jordach	sfan5, revoke PilzAdam's use of !say
21:51	MinetestBot	/me does not
21:51	sfan5	Jordach: can't
21:51	Jordach	touché
21:51	MinetestBot	;-p
21:51	khonkhortisan	Should I watch the show to know what the ponies are to be able to answer these polls?
21:52	sfan5	Jordach: also theres no !say command
21:52	Jordach	sfan5, well. you knew what i meant
21:52	nyuszika7h	!ping
21:53	Calinou	khonkhortisan, if you think you can survive it, then yes :-D
21:53	Calinou	else, do like me, don't :-D
21:53	khonkhortisan	I'm not so sure
21:53	sfan5	nyuszika7h: its called MinetestBot! or hi MinetestBot but not !ping
21:54	Jordach	hey MinetestBot
21:54	MinetestBot	Hey Jordach!
21:54	nyuszika7h	MinetestBot!
21:54	MinetestBot	nyuszika7h!
21:54	Calinou	Vanseb!
21:54	Calinou	wrong channel
21:54	nyuszika7h	hi MinetestBot
21:54	MinetestBot	Hello nyuszika7h!
21:54	nyuszika7h	.help
21:54	nyuszika7h	!help
21:54	MinetestBot	https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
21:54	* Jordach	gives MinetestBot a diamond
21:54	nyuszika7h	so it's a custom bot, k
21:55	sfan5	nyuszika7h: there are some modules that are barely modified from the original phenny modules
21:55	Calinou	Jordach, give two more, then you can vote for rarity twice
21:55	Jordach	ffs
21:55	MinetestBot	Jordach: thx
21:55	Jordach	crashed uTorrent again
21:55	Calinou	µTorrent*
21:55	Jordach	im using 3.0 and not the ad supported on
21:55	Jordach	one*
21:56	Jordach	(3.3.x has ads)
21:56	Calinou	transmission ftw
21:56	PilzAdam	y no ktorrent?
21:56	* Jordach	agrees
21:56	Jordach	with Calinou
21:56	Calinou	PilzAdam, he is on windows vista :p
21:56	Jordach	7*
21:56	Calinou	oh
21:56	Calinou	I always forget that ;)
21:56	Jordach	/ctcp Jordach version
21:56	Jordach	goon
21:56	Calinou	next week, Jordach on windows 8.
21:56	* Calinou	bets $10
21:56	Calinou	erm
21:56	Calinou	10 MinetestCoins
21:56	PilzAdam	every system that cant run ktorrent is broken by definition
21:57	Calinou	PilzAdam, windows can... run linux in virtualbox :P
21:57	Jordach	PilzAdam, nono, if it cant run solitaire
21:57	Jordach	then its fucked
21:57	Calinou	any OS that supports some kind of virtualization :P
21:57	PilzAdam	Jordach, fucked up != broken
21:57	Calinou	else ponies would be broken
21:57	Calinou	:phoronix rolleyes:
21:57	* Calinou	has 0.5 phoronix rolleyes left
21:57	* Jordach	suggests chess with Calinou
21:57	sfan5	!dev
21:58	Calinou	meh, it's almost midnight, going to sleep, night :P
21:58	Jordach	:P
21:58	sfan5	!dev minetest.chat_send_player
21:58	ungali_mobile	!help
21:58	sfan5	hm
21:58	MinetestBot	https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
21:58	Jordach	MinetestBot, i'll give you more diamonds
21:58	sfan5	MinetestBot: reload devwiki
21:58	MinetestBot	sfan5: <module 'devwiki' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/devwiki.pyc'> (version: 2013-06-19 12:27:47)
21:58	Jordach	!dev C++
21:58	MinetestBot	"C++ is the Programming language which the Minetest Engine is programmed in." - http://dev.minetest.net/C++
21:58	* Jordach	gives MinetestBot two diamonds
21:58	MinetestBot	Thanks
21:58	Calinou	someone voted "some other pony"
21:59	Jordach	!dev node
21:59	MinetestBot	"There is currently no text in this page." - http://dev.minetest.net/Node
21:59	ungali_mobile	!seen ungali
21:59	MinetestBot	ungali_mobile: Sorry, I haven't seen ungali around.
21:59	PilzAdam	sfan5, nice
21:59	Jordach	no-one made a page for a single theoretical node
21:59	Jordach	\o/
21:59	PilzAdam	!dev minetest.register_node()
21:59	MinetestBot	"There is currently no text in this page." - http://dev.minetest.net/Minetest.register_node()
21:59	Jordach	i see the bug
22:00	PilzAdam	!dev minetest.register_node
22:00	MinetestBot	"There is currently no text in this page." - http://dev.minetest.net/Minetest.register_node
22:00	Jordach	its entry is capitalising the first letter
22:00	sfan5	derp
22:00	Jordach	of the wiki
22:00	Jordach	http://dev.minetest.net/M <- WRON G
22:00	* Calinou	has a new signature
22:00	Jordach	WRONG*
22:00	Jordach	love it
22:01	Jordach	Calinou, youre close to 2000 posts
22:01	PilzAdam	Calinou, you have a really strange realname...
22:01	Calinou	well, yeah
22:01	Jordach	thats a RE thing
22:01	Calinou	no, sauerbraten
22:02	* PilzAdam	thinks that everyone who has less posts than jojoa should be banned
22:02	PilzAdam	*less or equal
22:02	Calinou	i'll remove it anyway :P
22:02	Calinou	PilzAdam, then... rarity would be banned :'(
22:02	Calinou	what is she going to do on john_minetest's head
22:02	Jordach	PilzAdam, then its just me left
22:02	Exio	you missed the fact that jojoa has infinity posts
22:02	PilzAdam	and me
22:03	Jordach	jojoa should be banned
22:03	PilzAdam	Exio, no, his mother blocked him :-p
22:03	Jordach	not everyone else
22:03	Exio	PilzAdam: lol, really?
22:03	Jordach	i was gunna say that too
22:03	PilzAdam	he is like 8 years old or so
22:03	Calinou	Exio, iirc, yeah
22:03	Calinou	PilzAdam, he is 12, iirc
22:03	Calinou	or 14
22:03	Calinou	well, "jojoa1997"
22:03	Calinou	1997 = 15 year old, or 16
22:04	Exio	hey man
22:04	Calinou	hey pony
22:04	Exio	the age doesn't mean anything :(
22:04	PilzAdam	Exio, it gives hints
22:04	Jordach	"Act your age not penis size."
22:04	Jordach	(in inches.)
22:04	Calinou	yeah, it does not, but it does not prevent people from being stupid
22:04	* kaeza	also points at chase "programer"
22:04	Calinou	probably misspelled "progamer", not "programmer" :P
22:05	Calinou	let's duel him in xonotic
22:05	* Calinou	found someone that spelt "programmer"... "porgamer", once.
22:05	Jordach	Calinou, xonotic has stupid stuff
22:05	Jordach	poor gamer
22:05	Exio	PilzAdam: do i really look that childish? ;P
22:05	Jordach	sounds legirt
22:05	Calinou	Jordach, like, tubas, accordeons and now... klein bottles
22:05	kaeza	pron gamer
22:05	Jordach	legit*
22:05	Calinou	new instrument in 0.7 :P
22:06	PilzAdam	Exio, yes, I am suprised that you can type on a keyboard :-p
22:06	Exio	ew
22:06	* Jordach	sends cats all over PilzAdam's keyboard
22:06	Calinou	ponies know how to type on a keyboard most of the time
22:06	PilzAdam	sandjsadf dsj jsbdfsdjbnvh sdfdjdnsn vjsdng sd fdvsd e
22:06	* Calinou	sends Jordach all over Exio's keyboard
22:06	Calinou	Jordach hits "enter" key, lots of spam
22:06	* Jordach	runs
22:07	Jordach	in this case: http://www.behance.net/gallery/Batman-Running-Away-From-Shit/2664887
22:07	Exio	i'm using a 4 USD keyboard
22:07	Calinou	while we're talking about ponies, Taoki still didn't vote :P
22:07	Exio	less, like 3 or 2
22:07	* sokomine	grabs one of the cats
22:07	Jordach	im using the OEM Acer keyboard
22:07	Calinou	G11 here, when i'm on my desktop
22:07	Jordach	still works
22:07	Taoki	Calinou: Vote on what?
22:07	Calinou	oh you're here
22:08	kaeza	oh god
22:08	Calinou	http://strawpoll.me/128698
22:08	Calinou	john_minetest is no longer here
22:08	Calinou	but his poll still is
22:08	Calinou	he has a second poll too, where there is more choice, but most of the ponies are obscure (but PilzAdam)
22:08	kaeza	joined an HL server... one player... pwned me like 50 times
22:08	Jordach	Half Life
22:08	Jordach	\o/
22:08	Calinou	TF2 is best source engine game \o/
22:09	kaeza	gluon jump, crossbow headshot ;_;
22:09	Jordach	Calinou, yes, yes it is
22:09	kaeza	Calinou, original HL
22:09	kaeza	ColdSrc
22:09	Calinou	lol ColdSrc
22:09	kaeza	Gold*
22:09	PilzAdam	.... but what about Minetest?
22:10	* Calinou	tries influencing Taoki before he votes
22:11	Calinou	"2013-06-21 freenode staff agrees on rarity being best pony."
22:11	kaeza	Calinou, also: http://twhl.info/vault.php?map=5819
22:11	Calinou	!title
22:11	Calinou	nope
22:11	PilzAdam	!title
22:11	MinetestBot	Calinou: TWHL: Half-Life/2 Mapping Tutorials and Resources
22:11	MinetestBot	PilzAdam: TWHL: Half-Life/2 Mapping Tutorials and Resources
22:11	Taoki	Calinou: Haha. What does that really mean exactly?
22:12	PilzAdam	Calinou, nobody likes freenode staff
22:12	Calinou	...but everyone likes rarity
22:12	PilzAdam	DERPY!
22:13	Jordach	PilzAdam, there is a staff member in here right now
22:13	PilzAdam	uh, oh
22:13	PilzAdam	freenode staff is da best
22:13	Jordach	PilzAdam, its also in the logs
22:13	PilzAdam	s/nobody/everyone
22:13	PilzAdam	^ silly typo
22:14	PilzAdam	;-)
22:14	Calinou	Taoki, http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-06-21#i_3154423
22:15	sfan5	MinetestBot: reload devwiki
22:15	MinetestBot	sfan5: <module 'devwiki' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/devwiki.py'> (version: 2013-06-21 22:06:33)
22:15	Calinou	someone's voted derpy
22:15	PilzAdam	!dev minetest.register_node
22:15	MinetestBot	"Registers a new node named 'name'." - http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.register_node
22:15	PilzAdam	Calinou, \o/
22:15	PilzAdam	!dev minetest.register_node()
22:15	MinetestBot	"There is currently no text in this page." - http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.register_node()
22:16	PilzAdam	!dev register_node
22:16	MinetestBot	"Registers a new node named 'name'." - http://dev.minetest.net/register_node
22:16	PilzAdam	oh, nice, follows redirects
22:16	Calinou	Taoki, was that you? :P
22:16	Taoki	Calinou: ?
22:16	Calinou	Taoki, on the vote
22:17	Calinou	was that you who voted derpy?
22:17	Taoki	ah, yeah
22:17	Taoki	:P
22:17	Calinou	you said on the forums that luna was best pony :P
22:20	Calinou	night now
22:27	sfan5	good night
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23:01	LazyJ	Howdy, VanessaE. :) The tablesaw from moreblocks isn't allowing input (no menu) on your server.
23:02	sokomine	hi lazyj :-) welcome to this irc network :-)
23:02	LazyJ	It was working the last time I visited (a few days ago??).
23:02	PilzAdam	sokomine is a bot? oO
23:02	LazyJ	Howdy, Soko :)
23:04	StarBlessed	Hi guys, can you please let me know if this is displaying and playing properly? http://mg.viewskew.com/u/starblessed/m/star-s-tutorials-minetest/
23:05	* sokomine	is a sheep counting bot
23:06	PilzAdam	works nice in firebug
23:06	PilzAdam	but the links are not clickable :-/
23:08	PilzAdam	oh, and +1 for html5 :-)
23:08	StarBlessed	Thanks PilzAdam.  Mediagoblin is the direction Im going.  Its taken me a few weeks to set up the server.  I will be using this instead of Youtube from now on.  Im re uploading all my video's here, and scrapping both my G+ and Youtube accounts.
23:09	sokomine	does "CEnv: num of objects" represent the amount of objects that are around? that number that went up on menches server?
23:09	PilzAdam	nice!
23:09	PilzAdam	sokomine, yep
23:10	sokomine	i'm currently at 654 in a sheep-cage at vanessaes server. it started with around 190 at spawn
23:10	sokomine	fps already dropped to 16. a few minutes more and i'll have to leave the area i guess...
23:10	sokomine	hope this bug can be found
23:11	sokomine	i don't think it's the sheep. they just illustrate it
23:11	StarBlessed	PilzAdam: The Mediagoblin instance is running on my server and is open to public registration if you or anyone you know is interested.  Its there to complement my Diaspora instance.  If you want the links to share around, Diaspora is http://d.viewskew.com and Mediagoblin is http://mg.viewskew.com - if you're on Diaspora already, you can get me on starblessedd.viewskew.com
23:11	PilzAdam	StarBlessed, that "PNG Large Test" thumbnail looks actually exactly like MC
23:11	StarBlessed	That would be because it IS minetest ;)
23:12	PilzAdam	MC = Minecraft
23:12	StarBlessed	I figure the Minetest community can use it for posting vids and screenshots as well, easy links in the forum ;)
23:12	StarBlessed	Oh, woops.  Hang on, let me look
23:13	StarBlessed	Haha!  The only give away is the window title and the toolbar at the bottom ;)
23:13	PilzAdam	the mediaGobling account is not limited to your server, right?
23:13	PilzAdam	-g
23:14	StarBlessed	Yes, it is.  Federation is coming, but its still at least a few months away.  Diaspora on the other hand is definitely federated.
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23:19	PilzAdam	"YEOWCH... that's an error!"
23:19	PilzAdam	trying to create an account
23:20	StarBlessed	Oh...  Hmmm...  Hang on
23:21	StarBlessed	Thats odd...  Was working fine all day...
23:21	VanessaE	bbl
23:21	* PilzAdam	likes buggy software, always a challenge :-)
23:22	StarBlessed	Try going back to the main url, and logging in.  Ill watch the logs.
23:23	PilzAdam	same error
23:24	PilzAdam	got something useful in the logs?
23:24	StarBlessed	Ok, just double checked.  I think there may be some addon on your browser thats stopping it.  I just created a new account myself.  no errors :)  Hang on, Ill check nginx logs
23:24	PilzAdam	oh, I have cookies disabled
23:26	StarBlessed	LOL!  That might do it ;)
23:26		kaeza joined #minetest
23:26	PilzAdam	works
23:26	StarBlessed	I thought I was going nutty ;)
23:29	StarBlessed	Just uploading another vid now :)
23:30	StarBlessed	PilzAdam: Did you note the download links on the right hand side?  Thats how it SHOULD be :)
23:32	PilzAdam	uploaded a screenshot
23:34	PilzAdam	I really start liking mediagoblin
23:34	StarBlessed	Came up perfect :)  Coolness!
23:34	StarBlessed	Its just media, pure and simple.
23:34	PilzAdam	only one downside so far: It doesnt support capital letters in the username
23:35	StarBlessed	True, but remembering is on a Linux back end.  Also there's nothing to say you cant add a feature request!
23:36		kaeza joined #minetest
23:36	PilzAdam	is there any kind of user list or search feature?
23:37	StarBlessed	Not yet, its still very basic.  Features like search and privacy settings are coming, but for now, the only way to find something by tag, is clicking on an existing tag, then it sorts all the content.
23:38	StarBlessed	As I said, not perfect, but coming along nicely :)  Considering that 3 months ago, it could barely do pictures ;)
23:39	PilzAdam	what uptime does your server have?
23:40	StarBlessed	If you click on a username, you can see all the media uploaded by that user.  Uptime stands at 99.53% over the last 16 months according to http://podupti.me/
23:40	StarBlessed	In turn thats based on pingdom statistics.
23:40	PilzAdam	nice
23:41	PilzAdam	I will probably use that for my screenshots
23:41	StarBlessed	Im very quickly shying away from closed source solutions.  I want to escape from Google and FB etc.  I have a real thing for privacy, ya know?
23:42	StarBlessed	Diaspora and Mediagoblin mean I can be; do; or say anything I want.
23:42		Kacey joined #minetest
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23:42	PilzAdam	I dont use google, FB, etc.
23:42	PilzAdam	I care about privacy too
23:43	StarBlessed	Im afraid I dont have a choice, but Im slowly replacing each service one by one.
23:43	StarBlessed	G+ with Diaspora; Youtube with Mediagoblin; Android with Ubuntu Touch; Google with DDG etc.
23:44	kaeza	Kacey, https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/pull/33
23:44	PilzAdam	problem is that ubuntu is spyware too, they send everything to amazon
23:44	StarBlessed	Not only that, but I want to push my support for FOSS projects.  :)
23:44	kaeza	Kacey, you can now use constructors to plant seeds
23:45	StarBlessed	True, but I dont have to have a "Legitimate" account with Ubuntu.  At least i can create a crap account.  It doesnt have the "Real Name" Policies of Google.
23:45	PilzAdam	StarBlessed, is there a KDE frontend for ubuntu touch yet?
23:45	Kacey	ok
23:46	kaeza	you can also use them to harvest the crops
23:46	kaeza	fully automated farming systems :D
23:46	Kacey	do they attach to pipes?
23:46	kaeza	no, but deployers and breakers do
23:47	StarBlessed	Not yet PilzAdam Im not sure there will be initially, but i have NO doubt it will be a community project ;)
23:47	PilzAdam	StarBlessed, also, whats "DDG"; I use ixquick.com to replace google
23:47	StarBlessed	Oh, sorry.  Duckduckgo
23:48	Kacey	that is what i was trying to make earlier
23:51	PilzAdam	StarBlessed, the german translation of that site isnt so good, but its interesting
23:52	StarBlessed	Haha!  Duck duck go, has been the main competitor to google.  They have the next largest user base and are GPL I think
23:52	StarBlessed	I was thinking about setting up a search engine...
23:53	PilzAdam	ah, I see, it tries to be what most people use google for
23:53	StarBlessed	That way i could specify things that interest me.  You know, give it focus.
23:53	StarBlessed	Yup, you got it.
23:53	PilzAdam	ixquick.com is "only" a (meta) search engine
23:54	StarBlessed	Without the advertising, or the pay per click junk.
23:54	StarBlessed	BRB, Coffee time.
23:56	PilzAdam	oh, nice, you can change the language to english

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