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MinetestBot |
GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Extend a delay in TestConnection from 50 to 100 milliseconds. eccd1fdbed 2013-06-16T17:09:50-07:00 http://git.io/"https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/eccd1fdbeddce60717f8fcbecded5b36387e3b38" was supposed to be shortened to "I8Mdlg", but "https://github.com/LunarLogicPolska/kanbanery/commit/f81d3e5383a6a32ed4914eadd3ab35366d7bc9bf" already is! |
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ch98 |
has anyone here built minetest in any ppc machene? |
| 00:14 |
kahrl |
what did I just do to MinetestBot |
| 00:14 |
Exio |
you broke, you repair it |
| 00:15 |
PilzAdam |
she was broken before |
| 00:15 |
ch98 |
it is she? |
| 00:16 |
PilzAdam |
rule #1: bots are female |
| 00:16 |
ch98 |
what kind of rule is that? |
| 00:16 |
diemartin |
rule #34: no exceptions |
| 00:16 |
khonkhortisan |
oceans and ships (including spaceships) too |
| 00:19 |
ch98 |
what is the 32 rule between 1 and 34? |
| 00:19 |
PilzAdam |
rule #34 actually contains more than that |
| 00:20 |
kaeza |
nsfw |
| 00:21 |
ch98 |
well I know the rule # 34 but what is the rule in between 1 and 34 |
| 00:22 |
VanessaE |
rule #2, there are no rules from 3 to 33. |
| 00:22 |
Exio |
rule #3-33 see rule #2? |
| 00:22 |
Exio |
;P |
| 00:23 |
khonkhortisan |
I'm expecting someone to post a link to these rules |
| 00:23 |
ch98 |
you should have a forum post for this. |
| 00:23 |
Exio |
!google internet rules |
| 00:23 |
ch98 |
(there is no link |
| 00:23 |
Exio |
MinetestBot: ew |
| 00:23 |
VanessaE |
rule #35: rule #34 may not apply in the UK after 2014. |
| 00:24 |
khonkhortisan |
!g MinetestBot |
| 00:24 |
PilzAdam |
MinetestBot is broken |
| 00:24 |
PilzAdam |
!kick PilzAdam |
| 00:24 |
PilzAdam |
see? |
| 00:24 |
Exio |
:( |
| 00:24 |
PilzAdam |
only thing that works: |
| 00:24 |
PilzAdam |
MinetestBot! |
| 00:24 |
MinetestBot |
PilzAdam! |
| 00:24 |
Exio |
TEST with 3.599999 seconds |
| 00:25 |
Exio |
i hate floats |
| 00:25 |
Menche |
should ShadowBot take over? |
| 00:25 |
Exio |
ShadowBot: kill MinetestBot |
| 00:25 |
PilzAdam |
ShadowBot, kick MinetestBot |
| 00:25 |
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MinetestBot was kicked by ShadowBot: PilzAdam |
| 00:25 |
Exio |
wtf? |
| 00:25 |
PilzAdam |
hello ShadowBot |
| 00:26 |
ShadowBot |
Hello PilzAdam! |
| 00:26 |
PilzAdam |
Exio, pm |
| 00:26 |
Exio |
ok :P |
| 00:26 |
Exio |
i wonder |
| 00:27 |
Exio |
ffffffff |
| 00:27 |
Exio |
shadowbot is now ignoring me :( |
| 00:27 |
PilzAdam |
!unignore Exio |
| 00:27 |
Exio |
!admin ignore list |
| 00:27 |
Exio |
^ supybot command |
| 00:28 |
kaeza |
[21:23:01] <VanessaE> rule #35: rule #34 may not apply in the UK after 2014. |
| 00:28 |
kaeza |
wrong |
| 00:28 |
khonkhortisan |
On github, can I compare two branches without starting the pull request process? |
| 00:28 |
kaeza |
rule #35: if there isn't it will be made |
| 00:28 |
PilzAdam |
Rule 35: If no porn is found at the moment, it will be made. |
| 00:28 |
khonkhortisan |
- If I didn't recently push to it? |
| 00:28 |
VanessaE |
ok rule 36 then |
| 00:28 |
PilzAdam |
khonkhortisan, yes |
| 00:28 |
VanessaE |
(for some reason I thought that was part of rule 34) |
| 00:30 |
ch98 |
all the (most likly) original rules. http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/30662 |
| 00:30 |
Exio |
kaeza: why not? |
| 00:30 |
Exio |
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/06/isps-to-include-porn-filters-as-standard-in-uk-by-2014/ |
| 00:30 |
PilzAdam |
khonkhortisan, https://github.com/your_name/your_repo/compare/branch1...branch2 |
| 00:32 |
kaeza |
Exio, I was saying about rule numbering ;) |
| 00:33 |
kaeza |
also, to UK govt: gl;hf |
| 00:33 |
ch98 |
rule one of ch98 there is 50% chance that anything on internet is a lie so do not trust rules of internet or this rule. |
| 00:33 |
PilzAdam |
ch98, what are your sexual preferences? |
| 00:33 |
ch98 |
why? |
| 00:33 |
PilzAdam |
no real reason |
| 00:34 |
kaeza |
he wants to marry you |
| 00:34 |
ch98 |
...... |
| 00:34 |
PilzAdam |
just following rule 27 |
| 00:34 |
khonkhortisan |
rule from the internet: everything on the internet is true |
| 00:35 |
ch98 |
rule one of ch98: don't trust internet |
| 00:36 |
ch98 |
and my rule that is on internet |
| 00:37 |
ch98 |
following my original rule 1, there is 25% chance rule of internet is not true |
| 00:37 |
VanessaE |
more like 85% |
| 00:37 |
ch98 |
but my rule is 50% by chance not true |
| 00:38 |
kaeza |
"Just because you read it on the internet does not mean it's true" -- Abraham Lincoln |
| 00:39 |
khonkhortisan |
"85% of all quotes are made up on the spot" - Github creator |
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arsdragonfly|pho |
s/Abraham Lincoln/kaeza |
| 00:40 |
khonkhortisan |
s/Github creator/khonkhortisan/ |
| 00:42 |
PilzAdam |
s/*/PilzAdam/g |
| 00:42 |
Exio |
s/.*/hi |
| 00:42 |
Exio |
:D |
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khonkhortisan |
PilzAdamPilzAdamPilzAdam PilzAdamPilzAdam PilzAdam. |
| 00:43 |
PilzAdam |
PilzAdam PilzAdam PilzAdam PilzAdam PilzAdam |
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ch98 |
Rules of ch98 is officially on offtopic |
| 00:52 |
PilzAdam |
ch98, how can a rule "apple" to something? |
| 00:53 |
ch98 |
because it was still the lie part of 50% |
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ch98 |
my USB is starting to smell like old car |
| 00:59 |
ch98 |
and starting to turn a paper black |
| 01:06 |
Exio |
haha |
| 01:06 |
PilzAdam |
ch98, are you sure its your USB stick and not your printer? |
| 01:07 |
Exio |
my lowend phone sucks at hashing |
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Roukoswarf |
anyone know where changelogs can be found? i dont seem to find any around |
| 01:13 |
Exio |
http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog |
| 01:13 |
Exio |
!title |
| 01:13 |
ShadowBot |
Exio: title [--no-filter] <url> |
| 01:13 |
Exio |
aww |
| 01:13 |
Roukoswarf |
that works |
| 01:14 |
Roukoswarf |
its not in the title, or i would have seen it :p |
| 01:15 |
Exio |
0.34khash/s with scrypt |
| 01:16 |
VanessaE |
computing what? |
| 01:16 |
Exio |
just running --benchmark with cpuminerd |
| 01:16 |
Exio |
s/d$// |
| 01:16 |
VanessaE |
oh |
| 01:16 |
Exio |
https://github.com/pooler/cpuminer |
| 01:16 |
* Roukoswarf |
continues waiting for survival aspects like cave-ins that increase risk the farther down you go |
| 01:17 |
VanessaE |
Roukoswarf: you have a super computer handy? |
| 01:17 |
Roukoswarf |
VanessaE: sure, why not? |
| 01:17 |
VanessaE |
it's hard enough just making a small mass of sand fall reliably |
| 01:17 |
Roukoswarf |
hm, totalminer on x360 seemed to do cave ins alright |
| 01:18 |
Roukoswarf |
at least, acceptably |
| 01:18 |
Roukoswarf |
no fancy physics |
| 01:18 |
Roukoswarf |
just, screenshake and block fall damaging you |
| 01:18 |
Roukoswarf |
in about a 30x30 block area around you, any open areas fall randomly |
| 01:20 |
PilzAdam |
good night everyone |
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Exio |
http://cadoth.net/~exio4/arm/minerd-noncurl |
| 01:20 |
Exio |
with this binary i get 0.34khash/s in my lg p350g |
| 01:21 |
ch98 |
so does anyone have time to test my concrete mod? I can't test it with ppc |
| 01:21 |
Exio |
(some cheap arm/android phone, overclocked up to 800mhz, default is 600mhz) |
| 01:21 |
Roukoswarf |
ch98: whats it do? |
| 01:21 |
VanessaE |
ch98: use a virtual machine and run linux or so. |
| 01:21 |
VanessaE |
Roukoswarf: it makes liquid concrete that can be poured into forms and hardens into walls |
| 01:22 |
ch98 |
there is no efficent virtural machene for ppc |
| 01:22 |
Roukoswarf |
VanessaE: a virtual machine translation to ppc would be a mess |
| 01:22 |
VanessaE |
true. |
| 01:22 |
Roukoswarf |
ch98: i could test it for you, havnt fired up the game in a while |
| 01:22 |
VanessaE |
well there's only one other solution - get some x86 hardware and try it. |
| 01:23 |
ch98 |
ok here is the link |
| 01:23 |
* khonkhortisan |
stumbles through mesecon code |
| 01:23 |
Exio |
i said "buy a cheap apu" |
| 01:23 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: how goes the crossover/null cell? |
| 01:23 |
Exio |
or an old pc |
| 01:23 |
ch98 |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5753 |
| 01:23 |
khonkhortisan |
I think is_conductor_on shall return true if any wire is on, and true if there's a rule given, and that metarule is on. |
| 01:24 |
khonkhortisan |
and I also think it should be crossover instead of crossing |
| 01:25 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 01:26 |
ch98 |
my old pc is broken but still fixable cheeper than buying another old one |
| 01:26 |
Exio |
fix it the |
| 01:26 |
Exio |
+n |
| 01:26 |
ch98 |
there is no computer cheeper than $15 |
| 01:26 |
Roukoswarf |
ch98: a haswell these days runs at about 250$ |
| 01:27 |
Roukoswarf |
especially when they release bga |
| 01:27 |
Exio |
intel is overpriced |
| 01:27 |
Exio |
buy an APU |
| 01:27 |
Roukoswarf |
Exio: the issue is AMD is behind a mountain in die size, and other things |
| 01:27 |
Exio |
he wants a cheap pc |
| 01:27 |
Exio |
Roukoswarf: he wants price/performance |
| 01:28 |
Roukoswarf |
theres really no x86 worth beans under 250$ |
| 01:28 |
Roukoswarf |
unless you go legacy to the point of uselessness |
| 01:28 |
ch98 |
I allady have a computer that is perfect exept that minetest refuse to run |
| 01:28 |
Exio |
my fx works pretty well Roukoswarf |
| 01:28 |
ch98 |
and computer with few brown capaciters |
| 01:29 |
Exio |
i can compile minetest in less than a minute, and play my games with more than 60 FPS, i'm ok with this |
| 01:29 |
Roukoswarf |
ch98: the computer refuses to run minetest? did you try finding the problem? |
| 01:29 |
Exio |
if i need more power, i overclock |
| 01:29 |
Exio |
Roukoswarf: he can't compile it for ppc |
| 01:29 |
VanessaE |
I think he means his PPC mac |
| 01:29 |
Roukoswarf |
ah |
| 01:30 |
Exio |
Roukoswarf: why "there isn't" any x86 worth under 250USD? |
| 01:30 |
Roukoswarf |
Exio: haswell these days, beats any amd |
| 01:30 |
ch98 |
ppc ubuntu refused to install for some reason |
| 01:30 |
Exio |
i know |
| 01:30 |
Exio |
but are you telling me you need an i7 4770K for playing games in facebook, or what the fuck? |
| 01:30 |
Roukoswarf |
Exio: find me an x86 setup under 250$? |
| 01:30 |
Exio |
oh, you mean full computer? |
| 01:31 |
Roukoswarf |
yes.... |
| 01:31 |
Roukoswarf |
i can build a haswell brand spanking new, minus power supply and other menial things, for 250-300 |
| 01:31 |
Roukoswarf |
thats literally the cheapest i could build |
| 01:31 |
ch98 |
Is it possible to make portable minetest on other ppc ubuntu machene and run it in live cd? |
| 01:31 |
Roukoswarf |
legacy parts from amd would be the same price, at 1/10th the speed |
| 01:32 |
Roukoswarf |
ch98: technically, yes, possible yet painfil |
| 01:32 |
Roukoswarf |
painful* |
| 01:32 |
Exio |
Roukoswarf: what prices with an APU + cheap mobo? |
| 01:32 |
Roukoswarf |
Exio: how expencive is a decent quad apu? |
| 01:32 |
ch98 |
live cd does work so I think it is the only possible way |
| 01:33 |
Roukoswarf |
ch98: why not try figuring out why it does not install? |
| 01:33 |
Roukoswarf |
also if you want nice arch support, use debian |
| 01:33 |
Roukoswarf |
ubuntu is a bastard child of mac users these days |
| 01:34 |
Exio |
Roukoswarf: i don't know prices outside argentina |
| 01:34 |
ch98 |
only thing that even starts booting |
| 01:34 |
ch98 |
is ubuntu |
| 01:34 |
Roukoswarf |
Exio: im in canada, would be +-10$ |
| 01:34 |
Roukoswarf |
ch98: give me an error message |
| 01:34 |
Exio |
Roukoswarf: +-10USD? |
| 01:34 |
Roukoswarf |
Exio: yeah |
| 01:35 |
Exio |
tell me the price for 8gb of ram, 1600mhz, hyperx, kingston |
| 01:35 |
Roukoswarf |
18$ |
| 01:35 |
Exio |
115 USD |
| 01:35 |
Roukoswarf |
wait |
| 01:35 |
Roukoswarf |
8 gig? |
| 01:35 |
Exio |
yes |
| 01:35 |
Roukoswarf |
36$ |
| 01:35 |
Roukoswarf |
have some of that stuff myself |
| 01:36 |
Exio |
i don't think a 1600mhz 8gb module with hyperx costs 36USD |
| 01:37 |
Roukoswarf |
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104244 |
| 01:37 |
Roukoswarf |
i got mine for 18-20$ locally with a good deal |
| 01:38 |
Roukoswarf |
ch98: Im kinda the owner of the arch linux google+ community, got a problem, throw me an error to solve |
| 01:40 |
Roukoswarf |
Exio: why are prices so high in argentina? |
| 01:40 |
Roukoswarf |
shipping there couldnt be that expencive |
| 01:41 |
Exio |
Roukoswarf: black magic |
| 01:41 |
ch98 |
problem # 1... Why does xcode only build intel executable even if i set it to ppc? |
| 01:41 |
ch98 |
when compiling mac |
| 01:41 |
ch98 |
minetest |
| 01:41 |
Roukoswarf |
ch98: cause apple doesnt care about ppc anymore |
| 01:42 |
ch98 |
but xcode is 2.5 from days when apple did cair about ppc |
| 01:43 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, http://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_posts&user_id=6149 |
| 01:43 |
Exio |
Roukoswarf: do you know mauvedic? |
| 01:44 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: dealt. |
| 01:44 |
Roukoswarf |
Exio: brings up no google results, and i have never heard it before, what is it? |
| 01:44 |
khonkhortisan |
mauvebic |
| 01:44 |
Exio |
mauvebic k |
| 01:45 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, thanks :) |
| 01:45 |
Roukoswarf |
i see religious things |
| 01:48 |
ch98 |
I will try ubuntu live so i will be off for some time |
| 01:51 |
ch98 |
mauvebic: From: Klach D'Kel Brakt, Registered: 2012-01-27, Last post: Yesterday 07:33:09, Posts: 1,292, Website: http://sites.google.com/site/mauvebic/ |
| 01:52 |
ch98 |
bye |
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| 01:59 |
Exio |
how cute |
| 01:59 |
Exio |
i made my phone get a kernel panic |
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| 02:00 |
Kacey |
hey guys i have a question |
| 02:01 |
Kacey |
how do i host a local server and connect to it from a different computer on the same network? |
| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
use the "Advanced" tab. |
| 02:02 |
Kacey |
i did |
| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
one minetest instance running that, another connecting via the regular "multiplayer" tab. |
| 02:03 |
VanessaE |
use the LAN IP of the machine running the server |
| 02:03 |
Kacey |
i tried. it doesnt work |
| 02:03 |
VanessaE |
to tell the client to connect to it. |
| 02:03 |
VanessaE |
then you're doing it wrong :-) |
| 02:03 |
Exio |
i just looked at http://www.bash.org/?244321 |
| 02:03 |
Exio |
i laughed for nth time |
| 02:04 |
Kacey |
i did it before,,, |
| 02:06 |
Kacey |
hrmmmmmm... |
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Kacey |
maybe if i make runserver.bat run then i can get somewhere |
| 02:10 |
kaeza |
Exio, rofl |
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Exio |
http://www.bash.org/?117002 |
| 02:15 |
arsdragonfly |
how can I tell if /clearobjects is finished? |
| 02:16 |
VanessaE |
it'll tell you |
| 02:16 |
arsdragonfly |
hmmmm |
| 02:17 |
Kacey |
still not working |
| 02:18 |
Kacey |
will it work over a wireless network? |
| 02:18 |
VanessaE |
should be fine |
| 02:18 |
VanessaE |
as long as your network handles UDP properly. |
| 02:19 |
* Kacey |
is wondering why this isnt working |
| 02:19 |
Kacey |
i have done it before on the same network |
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| 03:04 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: can you check the functioning of solar panels and vertical wires? I'm seeing some kind of intermittent inversion issue |
| 03:05 |
VanessaE |
(solar panels returning "on" when there's no light, and vice versa) |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
(or just check the functioning of the solar panels anyway) |
| 03:07 |
VanessaE |
might be abm-related, abms seem to have simply... stopped. |
| 03:07 |
VanessaE |
yep, had to restart the server. |
| 03:08 |
khonkhortisan |
so... no problem anymore? |
| 03:08 |
VanessaE |
after the restart it's fine. |
| 03:09 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: now that said, there IS a problem with block updates |
| 03:09 |
VanessaE |
circuits only turning on partly, etc. |
| 03:10 |
VanessaE |
not sure if that's a mesecons issue or a client<->server communication issue |
| 03:10 |
khonkhortisan |
it is hard to tell, in a correctly functioning circuit, you can have pieces appear to stay on |
| 03:11 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2006162013%20-%2011:10:35%20PM.png |
| 03:11 |
arsdragonfly |
what's the best way to copy an image to my remote host1free webserver? |
| 03:11 |
arsdragonfly |
can I finish ftp uploading in a one-line command? |
| 03:11 |
VanessaE |
that, for example. I know that whole sign works. |
| 03:12 |
khonkhortisan |
looks like a block border? |
| 03:12 |
VanessaE |
might be, I'm not sure |
| 03:13 |
VanessaE |
yeah, seems to be |
| 03:13 |
VanessaE |
it's right close to Y+16 |
| 03:14 |
VanessaE |
if I go into the control room and turn the sign off/on, it lights up fully |
| 03:15 |
VanessaE |
I've seen this happening a LOT with worldedit too |
| 03:15 |
VanessaE |
block updates just...go missing |
| 03:15 |
VanessaE |
I'll move a large structure and then have to logout/in after the move has completed, to see the result if it didn't update the first time. |
| 03:15 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: ^^^^ this may be in your court? |
| 03:16 |
khonkhortisan |
With worldedit, I've had both a plane cutoff, and a few single-node CONTENT_IGNORE holes |
| 03:18 |
hmmmm |
? |
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hmmmm |
no, this is not related to me |
| 03:19 |
VanessaE |
thought you might have some insight since you're the mapgen/emergethread god :) |
| 03:29 |
Exio |
night |
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khonkhortisan |
oh silly me I have a function that returns a table, and I'm trying to access the table directly |
| 03:30 |
Dogzilla131 |
Did modding change? |
| 03:31 |
VanessaE |
Dogzilla131: change how? |
| 03:31 |
khonkhortisan |
dump() doesn't crash on table values |
| 03:31 |
Dogzilla131 |
Format |
| 03:31 |
VanessaE |
where you must put mods has changed, but that's about it as far as major changes |
| 03:31 |
Dogzilla131 |
Where should I put now? |
| 03:31 |
khonkhortisan |
~/.minetest/mods/modname instead of ~/.minetest/mods/minetest/modname |
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khonkhortisan |
I want to overwrite a bit in binary, and I end up chopping strings |
| 03:47 |
khonkhortisan |
woohoo! 20:46:45: ERROR[main]: ServerError: LuaError: error: C++ exception |
| 04:03 |
khonkhortisan |
var1 = {}; var2 = var1[0]; C++ exception |
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khonkhortisan |
Of course it doesn't work, it's just that it should be more descriptive |
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arsdragonfly |
http://arsenalmp.no-ip.org? |
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arsdragonfly |
http://arsenalmp.no-ip.org/ |
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arsdragonfly |
server dynamic map finished :-D |
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khonkhortisan |
It updates while the world is running? |
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khonkhortisan |
I see a grass+desert biome |
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arsdragonfly |
khonkhortisan: yes |
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arsdragonfly |
every 15 minutes |
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arsdragonfly |
I modified PilzAdam's map mod |
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arsdragonfly |
!server ping:most |
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ShadowBot |
arsdragonfly: server server [--showdesc] |
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ShadowNinja |
Oops, have to fix the help. ,,(server --ping most) |
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ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: Ray's server | 173.195.255.46 | clients: 3/17 | version: 0.4.7-7734717 | ping: 0.215 |
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ShadowNinja |
Wait, it might have been ,,(server --ping highest) |
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ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: Arsdragonfly's server | arsenalmp.no-ip.org | clients: 0/1 | version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.560 |
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ShadowNinja |
Yea. |
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arsdragonfly|pho |
as always |
| 04:35 |
arsdragonfly|pho |
it's mine :-/ |
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ShadowNinja |
!help server |
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ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: (server server [--{name,address,players,ping,port} <value>]) -- On numeric options like 'ping', 'port' and 'players' <value> can be num, <num, >num, !num, highest, or lowest. |
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ShadowNinja |
Redundant 'server' removed. |
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Menche |
is there a way to enable creative mode per-world? |
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ch98 |
internet didn't work on ubuntu live cd |
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arsdragonfly|pho |
ch98 IIRC you should edit resolv.conf |
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ch98 |
what is that? |
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arsdragonfly|pho |
add this line |
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arsdragonfly|pho |
in etc/resolv.conf |
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arsdragonfly|pho |
nameserver 8.8.8.8 |
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ch98 |
can someone test |
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ch98 |
my concrete mod? |
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ch98 |
also, what does that do? |
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ShadowNinja |
ch98: Uses google's main DNS server. |
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ch98 |
what is good about it? |
| 05:19 |
ShadowNinja |
Well you have a DNS server if it isn't already configured, you probably don't need to do that, more likely a driver issue. |
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khonkhortisan |
I was just thinking, concrete could be a less-capable version of worldedit. You'd place concrete, get a formspec to tell it what node to turn into. It would take the texture of that node, with the texture slightly altered to tell that it's still concrete. After it flows how much you want it to, then you do something to it to partially harden, then you can dig it. Then depending on how the mod was set up, either an admin can come |
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khonkhortisan |
along and finish the hardening process, or you could. Concrete in this form would both be additive and subtractive. |
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* khonkhortisan |
watches as the bot doesn't kick him. |
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ShadowNinja |
khonkhortisan: I made it smarter than that. |
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ch98 |
something happend and I accidentally logged off |
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ch98 |
so... did anyone test my concrete mod 1.5? |
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khonkhortisan |
I gotta go download me some concrete then |
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ch98 |
read last post and the first so you know what to test. I don't have intel so I can't run minetest. |
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ch98 |
link.... http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5753 |
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ch98 |
bye. post resolt in forum |
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khonkhortisan |
concrete doesn't look any different than reinforced concrete |
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khonkhortisan |
no different digging with hand creative |
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khonkhortisan |
lol placing drying concrete dries the rest of the concrete - that's simple |
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GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Add initial Decoration support, many misc. improvements & modifications 0a8519a26f 2013-06-17T00:21:36-07:00 http://git.io/1MkRtQ |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all, happy Eat Your Vegetables Day! :-D |
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bdjnk |
I've got a question about timers and abms vs node timers. |
| 10:08 |
bdjnk |
But rather than repeat it here, have a forum link: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95191#p95191 |
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bdjnk |
I'm off to bed. |
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Jordach |
hey all |
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Jordach |
hey Calinou |
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Jordach |
having the vomit bug isnt any fun |
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* Jordach |
sees lamefun in wazyclan #minetest |
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* john_minetest |
built the beginning of an epic underground line on VanessaE's server |
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Jordach |
john_minetest, very nice |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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Jordach |
hey PilzAdam |
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i opened another hexchat |
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Jordach |
hey Calino |
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Jordach |
Calinou* |
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Calinou |
hi |
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Jordach |
Calinou, that HP Tower i said about last night works |
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Jordach |
we fed it Linux and it came to life |
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Calinou |
ah |
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PilzAdam |
Calinou, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95201#p95201 |
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Calinou |
dat avatar, kaeza |
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Taoki |
I have a question. Is it possible (with any mapgen or system) to register and set / unset Lua variables for biomes? |
| 12:38 |
Taoki |
Either for an instance of a biome, or the definition of that biome (in cases like mapgen v7) |
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PilzAdam |
Calinou, http://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_posts&user_id=6157 |
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sfan5 |
hello |
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PilzAdam |
is MinetestBot fixed? |
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lamefun |
That's why we need the Global Government to forcibly unify everything, too many 3D engines, 3D formats, nothing works, designs by commiittee aren't perfect (JavaScript, HTML5), but skills, techniques and most importantly TOOLS --- tools are all, debug, introspect, UNIFIED everything --- UNIFIED tools --- best for the world! |
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PilzAdam |
MinetestBot! |
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MinetestBot |
PilzAdam! |
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PilzAdam |
are you fixed yet? |
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PilzAdam |
sfan5, !msg still doesnt work |
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sfan5 |
!join worked |
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sfan5 |
hm |
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sfan5 |
weird |
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sfan5 |
wait |
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sfan5 |
could this be |
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sfan5 |
.re |
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sfan5 |
.help |
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MinetestBot |
https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md |
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sfan5 |
oh what the fuck |
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PilzAdam |
!help |
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ShadowBot |
PilzAdam: help [<plugin>] [<command>] |
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PilzAdam |
can someone ban him already? http://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_posts&user_id=6157 |
| 12:55 |
PilzAdam |
he keeps posting things |
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sfan5 |
done. |
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lamefun |
Interesting Fact! 3D tools are in total chaos, we need the Global Government's intervention fast! |
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sfan5 |
!help |
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MinetestBot |
https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md |
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sfan5 |
finally |
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MinetestBot |
YAY! I work again! |
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sfan5 |
!re TheLastProject´([A-Z].*) |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: Failed to compile regex: unbalanced parenthesis |
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sfan5 |
? |
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sfan5 |
PilzAdam: it was my fault, I should have set the config values correctly |
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sfan5 |
!re TheLastProject´[A-Z].* |
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MinetestBot |
false |
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sfan5 |
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!re ([A-Z][^A-Z]*)`TheLastProject |
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!re ([A-Z][^A-Z]*)`PilzAdam |
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sfan5 |
!re ([A-Z][^A-Z]*)`john_minetest |
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MinetestBot |
false |
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!re ([A-Z][^A-Z]*)`MinetestBot |
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sfan5 |
\o/ |
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arsdragonfly|pho |
how to set a cooldown for /home in unifiedinventory? |
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!c 2^2 |
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!c 2^3 |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
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sfan5 |
hi |
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lamefun |
We need the ONEist Global Government to forcibly unify too many 3D engines, 3D formats, nothing works, skills, techniques and most importantly TOOLS --- tools are all, debug, introspect, UNIFIED everything --- UNIFIED tools --- best for the world! |
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sfan5 |
lamefun: you said that 2 hours ago |
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rubenwardy |
Spam? |
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sfan5 |
!re ([A-Z][^A-Z]*)`TheLastProject |
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MinetestBot |
true groups=['The', 'Last', 'Project'] |
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lamefun |
I know, acknowledge true, TOOLS, skillsets, DEBUG, INTROSPECT --- that is all, too many 3D formats for ONE --- UNFIED --- 3D tooling is chaos - PURE CHAOS --- thats why there are so little even simpliest open-source 3D games --- DirectX INDUCSTRU STANDARD --- that's why! |
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lamefun |
Even LUA vs JAVascript issue is nothing in COomparison with This! |
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PilzAdam |
lamefun, stop it. now |
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lamefun |
Can't I even complain? |
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PilzAdam |
no, not in this channel |
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PilzAdam |
john_minetest, dont feed that troll |
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BlockMen |
hi |
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lamefun |
hm |
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BlockMen |
where can i find a list of graphics functions like "^[lowpart"? |
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PilzAdam |
tiles.cpp |
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lamefun |
maybe I just ran into irrlicht bug? the pole node should only affect part of model, but when I try to set its position, the whole model is upside down and inside out |
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BlockMen |
PA, thx |
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PilzAdam |
something arround line 1500 |
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ShadowNinja |
The entity being fliped is a known bug. |
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lamefun |
ShadowNinja, workarounds? |
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ShadowNinja |
None. |
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ShadowNinja |
I don't know what causes it. |
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BlockMen |
PA, am i wrong or is there no "^[lowpart" for horizontal? |
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PilzAdam |
just rotate it before and after ^[lowpart |
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PilzAdam |
you want to do that furnace progress arrow, right? |
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BlockMen |
very good for resources :P |
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BlockMen |
and yes |
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BlockMen |
kinda hacky but it works http://i.imgur.com/6v7GbUk.png |
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VanessaE |
hi all. |
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Jordach |
hey VanessaE |
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VanessaE |
cool |
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PilzAdam |
wtf? |
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PilzAdam |
I had Minetest runnning in background for a bit, and now its acting completly weird |
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PilzAdam |
the FPS in the title is switching like crazy between 30 and 60 and I actually get something like 10 FPS |
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PilzAdam |
when standing still, the walk sound is looped |
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PilzAdam |
F6 is just printing garbage |
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PilzAdam |
mainly "0" and "inf" |
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PilzAdam |
running another instance of Minetest works fine |
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PilzAdam |
everything else seems to work |
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rubenwardy |
you broke it! |
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VanessaE |
it does something similar for me, too |
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VanessaE |
the longer the client runs, the worse its performance |
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Jordach |
that sounds like meshes not being deleted |
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VanessaE |
(usually takes an hour or two for it to become irritating enough to demand a client restart) |
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PilzAdam |
VanessaE, it came out of the sudden |
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PilzAdam |
started to hearing the footstep sounds suddenly |
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PilzAdam |
then I investigated |
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VanessaE |
Jordach: when I open most formspecs, especially inventory, the display flickers for a second - like the formspec is drawn and then deleted several times in a row |
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VanessaE |
PilzAdam: probably not the exact same bug but a bug nonetheless. |
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PilzAdam |
top says minetest is at 60% CPU |
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VanessaE |
Jordach: happens when switching pages too. |
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Jordach |
anyways, i should be upgrading my processor to Intel Dual Core soon |
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PilzAdam |
RAM usage is normal, I guess |
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khonkhortisan |
http://pastebin.com/4QGbXeN0 |
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khonkhortisan |
he who clicketh find outeth what it isth. He who waiteth listenth to he who clicketh. |
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PilzAdam |
well, the FPS are kinda weird, looking arround is like 60 FPS, but walking arround and digging animation is like 10 FPS |
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khonkhortisan |
ok, so I'll tell you. It's two ways minetest crashes. |
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VanessaE |
PilzAdam: I get the same problem with the digging animation especially with HDX - some materials dig normally, some materials drop me to like 5fps or less while digging |
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PilzAdam |
also, it seems like walking is exacly 1 node per step |
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VanessaE |
call me bitter, but I guess no one who can fix these performance lags gives a shit. |
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PilzAdam |
it seems like movement just lost its float precision |
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PilzAdam |
clicking right mouse button always triggers 2 node placements |
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khonkhortisan |
and this is the minetest channel, and the path includes minetest |
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khonkhortisan |
and minetest.conf |
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khonkhortisan |
made too much sense to do it |
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kaeza |
mornings |
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VanessaE |
afternoon |
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kaeza |
don't mind me, I'm still asleep |
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Exio |
hi kaeza! :P |
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kaeza |
o/ |
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Kacey |
what about little old /me? |
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VanessaE |
hi Kacey |
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kaeza |
hey Kacey |
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thexyz |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6286 |
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thexyz |
why do they shitpost? |
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Exio |
ask him |
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Zeg9 |
Hi. |
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Kacey |
if i multiply two four bit binary numbers, how many bits doi have? |
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Kacey |
do i* |
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khonkhortisan |
if mesecon:is_powered(pos, rule) then mesecon:turnon(pos, rule) end <-- I forgot a not |
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VanessaE |
john_minetest: 16*16 you mean. |
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VanessaE |
(always count one over the max value for that) |
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Zeg9 |
and 0000 is 0 |
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VanessaE |
john_minetest: nevermind, it's an old habit from the old days. |
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rubenwardy |
Has my cloak worked? |
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sfan5 |
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khonkhortisan |
yes, you only appear with your cloak. |
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rubenwardy |
good, thanks |
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khonkhortisan |
joined cloaked, quit, joined cloaked. |
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rubenwardy |
Did I join twice then? |
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khonkhortisan |
yes |
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khonkhortisan |
(Quit: You may notice this notice is not worth noticing) |
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PilzAdamIsTheSat |
damn |
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PilzAdamIsTheSat |
Missing "an" |
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PilzAdamIsTheSat |
from the name |
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PilzAdamIsTheSat |
That is annoying] |
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PilzAdamIsTheSat |
can any one else see three messages on rubenwardy joining? |
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khonkhortisan |
rubenwardy, your cloak was slow that time |
| 17:32 |
khonkhortisan |
join, quit changing host, join cloaked |
| 17:32 |
PilzAdamTheSatan |
annoying |
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| 17:33 |
khonkhortisan |
it was better the other way |
| 17:33 |
PilzAdamTheSatan |
There might be something in settings... |
| 17:34 |
khonkhortisan |
it takes over half a second to redraw the irc window when I scroll or when someone talks |
| 17:36 |
rubenwardy |
hmmm |
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| 17:43 |
khonkhortisan |
I'm not using all of my cpu or my memory, I don't have a good reason for its slowness. |
| 17:43 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
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PilzAdamTheSatan |
Woop! |
| 17:43 |
PilzAdamTheSatan |
It works! |
| 17:44 |
khonkhortisan |
yep. single, cloaked join |
| 17:44 |
kaeza |
... |
| 17:44 |
PilzAdamTheSatan |
Added a delay between identify and join channels |
| 17:44 |
PilzAdamTheSatan |
so there is now enough time to cloak before joining |
| 17:44 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 17:44 |
Calinou |
khonkhortisan: suddenly: storage |
| 17:44 |
khonkhortisan |
you must be you, then. |
| 17:44 |
rubenwardy |
Woops, wrong user |
| 17:45 |
kaeza |
hey rubenwardy |
| 17:45 |
rubenwardy |
/msg NickServ group PilzAdamTheSatan |
| 17:45 |
rubenwardy |
:P |
| 17:45 |
kaeza |
hai Calinou |
| 17:45 |
rubenwardy |
wrong command |
| 17:45 |
kaeza |
yep |
| 17:45 |
khonkhortisan |
"can any one else see three messages on rubenwardy joining?" trying to make us think you're not you |
| 17:45 |
rubenwardy |
nope |
| 17:45 |
rubenwardy |
just being specifc |
| 17:46 |
rubenwardy |
-NickServ- Nick PilzAdamTheSatan is now registered to your account. |
| 17:46 |
rubenwardy |
trollololo |
| 17:46 |
Calinou |
dat avatar, kaeza |
| 17:46 |
TheLastProject |
Congratulations, you're a jerk! |
| 17:46 |
Calinou |
still less cool than Taoki's |
| 17:46 |
kaeza |
Calinou, :3 |
| 17:46 |
Calinou |
hey TheLastProject |
| 17:46 |
TheLastProject |
Calinou: What. |
| 17:46 |
rubenwardy |
Was that to me, TheLastProject? |
| 17:46 |
Calinou |
TheLastProject: the? |
| 17:46 |
TheLastProject |
Yes, rubenwardy |
| 17:47 |
rubenwardy |
oh, cool. Just checking |
| 17:47 |
Taoki |
You mean IRC avatar? |
| 17:47 |
TheLastProject |
IRC avatar? |
| 17:47 |
kaeza |
-.- |
| 17:47 |
rubenwardy |
Did not want any one else to achieve jerk status |
| 17:47 |
TheLastProject |
Since when... |
| 17:47 |
Calinou |
jerk status can only be achieved by me and graphitemaster and TheLastProject |
| 17:47 |
TheLastProject |
Calinou: Moi? |
| 17:47 |
rubenwardy |
-NickServ- Nick PilzAdamTheSatan has been removed from your account. |
| 17:48 |
TheLastProject |
Good boy |
| 17:48 |
rubenwardy |
Hi, rubenwerdy, are we related? |
| 17:48 |
Calinou |
it's so hot here :( graphics card at 52°C in idle, 42% fan speed |
| 17:48 |
Taoki |
TheLastProject: KVIrc supports avatars, thought people meant that :) |
| 17:49 |
TheLastProject |
I wonder what you see for all those who do not have stuff not supported by the IRC protocol like avatars, Taoki :P |
| 17:49 |
TheLastProject |
AKA: Me |
| 17:49 |
Calinou |
Taoki: no, on the forums |
| 17:49 |
Calinou |
Taoki even cross-avatars, he has at least 3 different avatars :3 |
| 17:49 |
Taoki |
TheLastProject: KVIrc has avatar support by using a flag in the user name and DCC or direct linking of images. For those who don't have KVIrc or an avatar set in it, you simply see no avatar :P |
| 17:49 |
Taoki |
I wish more IRC clients had avatar support |
| 17:50 |
TheLastProject |
Avatar support sounds utterly useless |
| 17:50 |
Calinou |
DCC, being more exploited than TheLastProject since 2006® |
| 17:50 |
Taoki |
TheLastProject: Nah, it's a nice addition |
| 17:50 |
TheLastProject |
But that's probably because, for me, it really is useless |
| 17:50 |
TheLastProject |
Because avatars in a cli? |
| 17:50 |
Taoki |
Calinou: KVIrc avatars can be either set through DCC, or direct links |
| 17:50 |
Taoki |
I direct-link mine from imageshack or tinypic |
| 17:51 |
Taoki |
In that case the IRC clients opens them like a browser does and shows them in the user list :) |
| 17:51 |
Calinou |
inb4 linking to 1GB images |
| 17:51 |
Taoki |
Well I haven't ever seen an 1GB image so :P |
| 17:52 |
khonkhortisan |
I renamed mesecons_extrawires:crossing_off to mesecons_extrawires:crossover_off and now it's not showing up in the creative inventory |
| 17:52 |
Taoki |
1GB would probably mean a resolution that would cover a few neighbor's houses at full scale :) |
| 17:52 |
Calinou |
there is no "full scale" |
| 17:52 |
Calinou |
logically |
| 17:53 |
TheLastProject |
Calinou: I guess you'll be spending the rest of the day figuring out how KVIrc does that just to annoy those users? |
| 17:53 |
Taoki |
Yeah, at 100% scale. But then it would depend on the pixel size of the monitor you're counting in |
| 17:53 |
Calinou |
suddenly: full HD 27"s |
| 17:53 |
* Calinou |
's eyes dies of bleeding |
| 17:54 |
TheLastProject |
s/dies/die/ |
| 17:54 |
TheLastProject |
Eyes is not singular |
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kaeza |
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/d0c048b99956eed63e06c1fbcdc3cc7b.jpg |
| 17:58 |
kaeza |
Calinou, ^ |
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| 18:13 |
lamefun |
Lua is actually very nice. Same as JavaScript, but not plagued by tons of warts, sad that it's not what's prescribed :( |
| 18:13 |
Calinou |
kaeza: old news |
| 18:14 |
lamefun |
Maybe it's possible to get the Global Government prescribe it instead of JavaScript? |
| 18:14 |
rubenwardy |
"Global Government?" |
| 18:14 |
Calinou |
"praise javascript" disapproves |
| 18:14 |
Calinou |
lamefun is just another Praise JavaScript |
| 18:14 |
Calinou |
"C++ should only be done for an assignment" --PJS fact |
| 18:15 |
rubenwardy |
I like both JS and LUA |
| 18:15 |
khonkhortisan |
lua is not a complete language |
| 18:15 |
rubenwardy |
prefer JS |
| 18:15 |
rubenwardy |
but it is still a language |
| 18:15 |
TheLastProject |
Python, yay |
| 18:15 |
TheLastProject |
Javascript: http://i.imgur.com/0skrb.jpg |
| 18:16 |
lamefun |
Calinou, "C++ should only be done for an assignment" --- because it won't be even possible to use C++ for anything else: only HTML5/JavaScript/CSS will be available for mere mortals, C++ will be only available for use in corporations. |
| 18:16 |
rubenwardy |
lol, wtf? |
| 18:16 |
rubenwardy |
there are millions of free c++ compilers |
| 18:17 |
TheLastProject |
lamefun: Programming in HTML5 and Javascript is a hell |
| 18:17 |
TheLastProject |
An absolute hell |
| 18:17 |
rubenwardy |
http://craftyjs.com ! |
| 18:17 |
rubenwardy |
That is what I use |
| 18:18 |
lamefun |
The fate of Assembler --- it's only used by 2 types of people: people working in serious corporations and hacker criminals. That's why the next CPU architecture that comes after x86 and ARM will not have its assembler publicially available. |
| 18:18 |
rubenwardy |
and http://www.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/ for debuging and building |
| 18:18 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 18:18 |
rubenwardy |
so? |
| 18:18 |
rubenwardy |
I am sure hobbyists will use it |
| 18:19 |
rubenwardy |
and lamefun [citation-needed] |
| 18:19 |
rubenwardy |
*..fun: |
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rubenwardy |
I am getting the impression that lamefun is some sort of rightwing programmer |
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| 18:21 |
lamefun |
And free software will be banned too, because the only people who need the freedom and privacy that it offers are dissidents and criminals. |
| 18:22 |
khonkhortisan |
that would be impossible to do |
| 18:23 |
rubenwardy |
lolo |
| 18:23 |
lamefun |
By gradual implementation of Restricted Boot --- will be much harder to get new people into free software because installing it won't be as easy as it is now ---> free software will gradually go extinct and when it reaches a minimum, then it will be banned. |
| 18:23 |
lamefun |
On desktops first --- servers will follow. |
| 18:24 |
rubenwardy |
lamefun is definitely some sort of rightwing programmer |
| 18:24 |
rubenwardy |
and communist |
| 18:24 |
rubenwardy |
lamefun: no one gives a shit |
| 18:24 |
khonkhortisan |
You don't ban something just before it goes extinct |
| 18:24 |
rubenwardy |
it will never be banned |
| 18:25 |
rubenwardy |
it will never go extinct |
| 18:25 |
khonkhortisan |
The software you write is free software to your coworkers |
| 18:26 |
thexyz |
lamefun: why are you so sure? |
| 18:26 |
lamefun |
No idea. |
| 18:27 |
lamefun |
I just assume the worst. |
| 18:27 |
thexyz |
micro$oft's secureboot has to be disableable |
| 18:27 |
lamefun |
not on ARM |
| 18:27 |
thexyz |
true that |
| 18:27 |
lamefun |
and ARM will displace x86 |
| 18:27 |
lamefun |
and |
| 18:27 |
thexyz |
I'm sure it won't |
| 18:27 |
lamefun |
the only x86 computers will be super-expensive workstationx |
| 18:28 |
lamefun |
normal people will just use tablets because they are more convenient |
| 18:28 |
rubenwardy |
typing? |
| 18:28 |
lamefun |
attachable keyboard |
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| 18:29 |
lamefun |
like in Surface |
| 18:29 |
rubenwardy |
Surface's keyboard is crap |
| 18:29 |
lamefun |
I've read that in Surface it's inconvenient, but other tablets will learn from that and make it better |
| 18:29 |
rubenwardy |
Asus Transformer's is better |
| 18:29 |
lamefun |
So, we are living in the end times for free software. |
| 18:30 |
thexyz |
normal people who only consume |
| 18:30 |
rubenwardy |
Lol, my server is "moorcock.freenode.net" |
| 18:30 |
rubenwardy |
OpenOffice ftw! |
| 18:30 |
lamefun |
So, have last bits of fun and freedom. The end is near. |
| 18:30 |
thexyz |
rubenwardy: hmmm? |
| 18:30 |
rubenwardy |
When you say "free software" do you mean "open source and freedom" or "free in price" |
| 18:30 |
thexyz |
lamefun: how will they stop me from using linux? |
| 18:31 |
rubenwardy |
thexyz: more cock |
| 18:31 |
lamefun |
won't boot |
| 18:31 |
rubenwardy |
Yes it will |
| 18:31 |
thexyz |
lamefun: on hardware I already have? |
| 18:31 |
thexyz |
rubenwardy: read more |
| 18:31 |
lamefun |
no, not without Microsoft keys |
| 18:31 |
lamefun |
thexyz, your hardware will break sooner or later |
| 18:31 |
khonkhortisan |
that would require a microsoft bios |
| 18:31 |
rubenwardy |
bye all |
| 18:31 |
lamefun |
and then you'll have to use software for normal people |
| 18:31 |
rubenwardy |
Could build my own computer |
| 18:31 |
khonkhortisan |
My calculator is programmable |
| 18:31 |
diemartin |
http://www.bash.org/?694826 |
| 18:32 |
khonkhortisan |
I can write my source code on paper and send it through the mail |
| 18:32 |
thexyz |
what's the point of writing code if no one is able to compile it? |
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khonkhortisan |
haha tricked by pass-by-reference yet again |
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| 18:54 |
Calinou |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95287#p95287 |
| 18:54 |
Calinou |
mmmph |
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| 19:02 |
thexyz |
you stupid shit |
| 19:03 |
Calinou |
hence its old name: "stupidloggingbot" |
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| 19:03 |
thexyz |
back then it was even more stupid |
| 19:05 |
thexyz |
https://github.com/blog/1529-repository-next |
| 19:07 |
TheLastProject |
"Repository Next" |
| 19:07 |
TheLastProject |
This "next" sounds so stupid |
| 19:07 |
TheLastProject |
Why did it become a trend?.. |
| 19:07 |
Calinou |
like you |
| 19:08 |
Calinou |
inb4 TheLastProject critisizes github |
| 19:08 |
TheLastProject |
I'm not a Next, I'm a Last. |
| 19:08 |
TheLastProject |
Totally different thing |
| 19:09 |
thexyz |
http://i.imgur.com/IwMtqcY.png |
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| 19:09 |
TheLastProject |
Meh, we'll see how it ends |
| 19:09 |
TheLastProject |
I'm not sure if I find the new design better |
| 19:10 |
TheLastProject |
But I'll get used to it none-the-less |
| 19:11 |
* PilzAdam |
found a pony in Transformers (the movie) |
| 19:11 |
Taoki |
yay! |
| 19:12 |
lamefun |
Calinou, Red Eclipse, Xonotic, Minetest, what else? |
| 19:13 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam, where |
| 19:13 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, the little girl that finds one autobot in the pool |
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PilzAdam |
its in one of the trailers too, IIRC |
| 19:13 |
PilzAdam |
it has a pony in her hand |
| 19:13 |
PilzAdam |
s/it/she |
| 19:14 |
Calinou |
Taoki, TIL the hard way I can taunt in spectator mode, in xonotic, and other players can hear it |
| 19:14 |
Taoki |
heh, sounds like a bug |
| 19:14 |
Calinou |
I pressed I by mistake on camping rifle FT server, and I asked whether other people heard "okie dokie wokie" :P |
| 19:14 |
Calinou |
and people said yes :P |
| 19:14 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, why do you keep telling people that furnaces work in unloaded areas? |
| 19:14 |
PilzAdam |
they dont |
| 19:15 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam, they do? |
| 19:15 |
PilzAdam |
nope |
| 19:15 |
PilzAdam |
you are wrong |
| 19:15 |
Calinou |
was that removed when furnaces were ported to lua? |
| 19:15 |
Calinou |
;-; |
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| 19:16 |
PilzAdam |
Taoki, in github, you dont put a space between the username and the @ |
| 19:17 |
Taoki |
Where did that happen? |
| 19:17 |
Taoki |
Calinou: Haha, nice |
| 19:18 |
PilzAdam |
e.g. here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/606#issuecomment-19561885 |
| 19:18 |
PilzAdam |
but in other places too |
| 19:18 |
PilzAdam |
BlockMen, dont feed the troll called mauvebic |
| 19:19 |
Taoki |
Oh. Is there a difference if you do? |
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| 19:20 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
| 19:20 |
Calinou |
if you feed mauvebic, he transforms into a combination of xsax, mikeeusa and Calinou |
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| 19:20 |
Calinou |
catchphrase: "GAY semi-automatic pistol in bed" |
| 19:20 |
BlockMen |
btw..why isnt he banned too? he has alos blanked out |
| 19:21 |
BlockMen |
PilzAdam, and the difference is? |
| 19:21 |
PilzAdam |
github highlights you differently |
| 19:24 |
PilzAdam |
1) rightclick on a YouTube video 2) click on "stats for nerds" 3) .... 4) PROFIT!!! |
| 19:25 |
Calinou |
5) DEBT!!! if you live in PIIGS |
| 19:26 |
BlockMen |
it is PIIGCS now :P |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
oh, right |
| 19:27 |
BlockMen |
or PIIGCMS |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
we're far from "pigs" now :( |
| 19:27 |
BlockMen |
i forgot Malta |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
PIIGSANIEHMZMSPilzAdamS |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
there |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
^ 2020 |
| 19:28 |
BlockMen |
2020? who cares? we wont have an EU then anymore |
| 19:28 |
* PilzAdam |
will be famous in 2020 |
| 19:28 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam president |
| 19:29 |
BlockMen |
^ of france ;P |
| 19:29 |
Calinou |
probably |
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| 19:29 |
BlockMen |
thats ok then |
| 19:29 |
PilzAdam |
Ill integrate it into germany |
| 19:30 |
* BlockMen |
thinks probably PA isnt the right one... |
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PilzAdam |
BlockMen, simply ignore mauvebic |
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| 19:41 |
BlockMen |
ok, now i can stop. he has shown everyone how stupid he is |
| 19:42 |
BlockMen |
that was my aim :) |
| 19:42 |
PilzAdam |
hi NekoGloop |
| 19:45 |
thexyz |
BlockMen: where? |
| 19:46 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95269#p95269 |
| 19:47 |
BlockMen |
thexyz, umm...where not? |
| 19:49 |
* NekoGloop |
puts a kitten on PilzAdam's head |
| 19:50 |
thexyz |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3646 |
| 19:50 |
thexyz |
irony! |
| 19:50 |
kaeza |
why rename nodes to blocks? |
| 19:50 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: I mean, where has he "shown everyone how stupid he is" |
| 19:50 |
kaeza |
thexyz, lol |
| 19:50 |
kaeza |
true |
| 19:50 |
NekoGloop |
What... |
| 19:51 |
Calinou |
the... |
| 19:51 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, he means BlockMen |
| 19:51 |
kaeza |
fu... |
| 19:51 |
Calinou |
ck. |
| 19:51 |
thexyz |
oh, yes |
| 19:52 |
thexyz |
typos |
| 19:52 |
thexyz |
are everywhere |
| 19:52 |
NekoGloop |
inb4 "I confused the two idiots in the channel" |
| 19:52 |
kaeza |
:| |
| 19:52 |
Calinou |
inafter "I confused the two idiots in this channel" |
| 19:53 |
* Menche |
only saw the last few minutes of this conversation... |
| 19:53 |
NekoGloop |
kaeza: Because it makes more sense, to the player, that the item description matches what the developers are saying. |
| 19:53 |
NekoGloop |
And a "Steel Node" sounds ridiculous. |
| 19:53 |
PilzAdam |
Menche, this conversation started a few minutes ago... |
| 19:53 |
thexyz |
archiving mods is actually a good idea, but there are two major problems: 1) who will do it; 2) how do we archive repos |
| 19:54 |
Menche |
only saw half of it |
| 19:54 |
thexyz |
1) is solved by creating github repo and giving access to some people |
| 19:54 |
NekoGloop |
thexyz: 1) someone who doesn't respect licensing *cough*everyone*cough*, 2) a bot. |
| 19:54 |
PilzAdam |
Menche, how do you know? |
| 19:54 |
khonkhortisan |
I feel like I can't contribute to a mod without it being in a repository |
| 19:54 |
BlockMen |
Menche, you call me a troll? seriously? |
| 19:55 |
Menche |
telling someone to stay away because he hasn't been around for a while is rude. |
| 19:55 |
thexyz |
it's not a very good idea to store binary files in git repo but it's the easiest way to not rely on a single person |
| 19:55 |
Menche |
ok, i'll edit that out |
| 19:55 |
Menche |
fine |
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| 19:55 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: I don't get it, what's the licensing issue? |
| 19:55 |
BlockMen |
he said he left, and he said nowhere that he came back. so it was maybe "rude" but not pointless |
| 19:56 |
* Menche |
doesn't see where it says that you have to announce your return |
| 19:56 |
PilzAdam |
Menche, depends how you leave |
| 19:56 |
NekoGloop |
BlockMen: Hello Miranda. |
| 19:56 |
NekoGloop |
thexyz: People will still archive something, even if they licensed it as -ND, you see. |
| 19:57 |
PilzAdam |
BlockMen, and about the actual topic: You dont really expect anyone to change anything, do you? |
| 19:57 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, -ND is not supported in the forum |
| 19:57 |
NekoGloop |
PilzAdam: So? |
| 19:57 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: ND doesn't stop me from archiving, it stops me from changing the contents |
| 19:57 |
BlockMen |
PilzAdam, no. i thought it could be interesting to discuss this. but it seems that hating makes more fun |
| 19:57 |
NekoGloop |
It's still a perfectly valid license. |
| 19:57 |
thexyz |
it is |
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NekoGloop |
And this is why i left; nobody respects anything here. |
| 19:59 |
kaeza |
NekoGloop, where does archiving a -ND mod violate the terms? |
| 20:00 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: okay |
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thexyz |
any other opinions on mods archive? |
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PilzAdam |
thexyz, we can add an archive to the mod manager |
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NekoGloop |
i don't see the reason to hoard everyone's creations |
| 20:04 |
NekoGloop |
If they wanna have their work rid from this hellhole, so be it. |
| 20:05 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: that's not how internet works |
| 20:05 |
NekoGloop |
Oh you're right |
| 20:05 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, why would they release their work under a free license if they dot want it to be free? |
| 20:05 |
PilzAdam |
+n |
| 20:05 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: well, we can (and it'll works this way most likely), but it's still far enough from complete |
| 20:05 |
NekoGloop |
The internet is for assholes, virgins, and porn. |
| 20:05 |
kaeza |
._. |
| 20:06 |
* kaeza |
is in at least two of those categories |
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thexyz |
NekoGloop: are you porn? |
| 20:06 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, add "kittens" and you got it |
| 20:07 |
NekoGloop |
thexyz: No, from your description, the internet isn't meant for me. |
| 20:07 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: oh, then leave it now |
| 20:07 |
mati1 |
who is RealBadAngel?? |
| 20:07 |
NekoGloop |
thexyz: Note: "from your description" |
| 20:07 |
kaeza |
he is RealBadAngel |
| 20:08 |
PilzAdam |
mati1, what do you expect as an answer? |
| 20:08 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: whatever, I didn't give it any description |
| 20:08 |
thexyz |
apart from the fact you cannot remove anything from it, which is quite obvious |
| 20:09 |
thexyz |
well, not for government |
| 20:09 |
mati1 |
maybe todey was hier |
| 20:09 |
PilzAdam |
mati1, german? |
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* mati1 |
ja germany berlin ;) |
| 20:10 |
Calinou |
"hier" is "yesterday" in french |
| 20:10 |
PilzAdam |
hier is here in german |
| 20:10 |
Calinou |
i'm saying that because I read "todey" as "today" :P |
| 20:10 |
PilzAdam |
+"""" |
| 20:12 |
thexyz |
I actually was about to ask if he's going to leave |
| 20:14 |
Calinou |
well, you won |
| 20:14 |
BlockMen |
you can win on internet :P |
| 20:14 |
* PilzAdam |
wonders whether anyone would care if we ban him... |
| 20:14 |
BlockMen |
*cant |
| 20:16 |
* BlockMen |
dont like trolls =\ |
| 20:17 |
Calinou |
buut... some trolls are funny |
| 20:17 |
PilzAdam |
you cant like trolls by definition |
| 20:17 |
PilzAdam |
unless they troll someone else |
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Calinou |
hi Menche |
| 20:17 |
Menche |
hi |
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lamefun |
can I at least make so one entity moves with the other and if the parent dies, the child entities will die too? |
| 20:18 |
lamefun |
I want to simulate at least horiz rotation for turrets this way until bones bug is fixed |
| 20:19 |
PilzAdam |
lamefun, search for attachment in lua-api.txt |
| 20:19 |
PilzAdam |
you would need to handle the die part in on_step(), though |
| 20:20 |
* BlockMen |
leaves |
| 20:20 |
BlockMen |
bye everyone |
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sfan5 |
good night |
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StrayBytes |
I don't know which one of you is harassing me via email on behalf of "the community". If that person could realize that 1. He's just plain annoying. 2. I'm not the one that sent out those DoSs, that would be most appreciated. |
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kaeza |
what the f |
| 20:44 |
sapier |
who is he/she? |
| 20:44 |
kaeza |
posting a long message and leaving? |
| 20:44 |
kaeza |
rarkenin |
| 20:44 |
* Menche |
is annoyed when people randomly take on different usernames |
| 20:44 |
* kaeza |
too |
| 20:45 |
sapier |
there are much more severe things to be annoyed about ;-) |
| 20:46 |
kaeza |
yeah, like winning the Microsoft National Lottery via email |
| 20:47 |
sapier |
does anyone want checkboxes textlists and shadowboxes as formspec elements? ;-) |
| 20:47 |
kaeza |
I won £250000 ^_^ |
| 20:47 |
kaeza |
sapier, f yeah |
| 20:48 |
kaeza |
...shadowboxes? |
| 20:48 |
sapier |
just plain colored boxes that can be used as backgrounds |
| 20:48 |
kaeza |
arbitrary colors? |
| 20:48 |
sapier |
in theory yes in practice it's limited to a hand full standard colors |
| 20:49 |
kaeza |
could be useful anyway |
| 20:49 |
sapier |
atm colors are set by using a 3 character color identifier |
| 20:49 |
sapier |
e.g. BLK for black |
| 20:50 |
sapier |
it's easy to add additional color keys |
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sapier |
help me get formspec mainmenu merged and all those features will be added same time ;-) |
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| 21:44 |
VanessaE |
hi all |
| 21:44 |
VanessaE |
I see I missed a shitstorm while I was out. |
| 21:44 |
Uberi |
what happened? |
| 21:45 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: nekogloop and blockmen both showed up and all hell broke loose I guess :) |
| 21:45 |
kaeza |
hey V |
| 21:45 |
VanessaE |
(better to look at the log) |
| 21:45 |
kaeza |
hey Uberi |
| 21:45 |
Uberi |
o/ |
| 21:45 |
kaeza |
\o |
| 21:45 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: I'd really rather not, now that you describe it |
| 21:46 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, the usual stuff: changing everything for no reason |
| 21:46 |
kaeza |
(BlockMen) |
| 21:46 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: and licensing arguments. |
| 21:47 |
kaeza |
that too :) |
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STHGOM |
me go too |
| 22:02 |
arsdragonfly |
hmmm ,seems every player times out on join on my server |
| 22:03 |
VanessaE |
arsdragonfly: because their clients crash. |
| 22:03 |
VanessaE |
it's a known bug, happens to everyone |
| 22:03 |
arsdragonfly |
i just installed some mods and I can enter it |
| 22:03 |
VanessaE |
they start to receive the media stream, and somewhere in the middle, the client crashes. |
| 22:04 |
VanessaE |
it's nothing you did. |
| 22:05 |
arsdragonfly |
... any workaround or fixes? |
| 22:05 |
VanessaE |
not that I know of. |
| 22:05 |
kaeza |
it's only when new media is involved |
| 22:05 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: not always, but usually so. |
| 22:05 |
kaeza |
if the media is already cached nothing happens |
| 22:06 |
arsdragonfly |
huh |
| 22:06 |
VanessaE |
I'm unclear if there's a fix for this or not |
| 22:06 |
arsdragonfly |
it used to be a vanilla one |
| 22:06 |
VanessaE |
it doesn't matter if you run any mods, or what mods you run, as the server still has to send some media. |
| 22:07 |
VanessaE |
(and of course the "vanilla" content is itself a collection of mods) |
| 22:07 |
arsdragonfly |
well, nothing happened at that time |
| 22:08 |
arsdragonfly |
When I wake up and cat nohup.out | grep players |
| 22:08 |
arsdragonfly |
I see nearly ALL join messages followed by a timeout one |
| 22:09 |
arsdragonfly |
that's terrible... |
| 22:10 |
Uberi |
maybe you have a bad connection? |
| 22:10 |
arsdragonfly |
yes I do |
| 22:10 |
arsdragonfly |
!server ping:most |
| 22:10 |
MinetestBot |
arsdragonfly: Arsdragonfly's server | arsenalmp.no-ip.org | Clients: 0/100, 4 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.453 |
| 22:10 |
Uberi |
ah, then you can provide a cache folder download maybe |
| 22:10 |
Uberi |
is that ping in seconds? |
| 22:10 |
arsdragonfly |
remote media server? |
| 22:10 |
PilzAdam |
its in ping-units |
| 22:11 |
Uberi |
stupid imperial system |
| 22:11 |
PilzAdam |
alternatively °ping |
| 22:11 |
Uberi |
I bet its conversion factor is like 1 ping-unit = 2.16328723 seconds |
| 22:11 |
Uberi |
arsdragonfly: that might work too, I dunno |
| 22:12 |
arsdragonfly |
as long as my server is up, the server with the most ping is mine :-( |
| 22:12 |
Uberi |
is that a challenge? |
| 22:12 |
* Uberi |
gets out Slowloris |
| 22:13 |
arsdragonfly |
how? simply copy everything in mods/foo/textures/ into one folder? |
| 22:13 |
arsdragonfly |
lol |
| 22:13 |
TheLastProject |
Guys? Why was there nothing in the changelog about losing all your items when you die? :( |
| 22:13 |
Uberi |
arsdragonfly: join your own server |
| 22:13 |
VanessaE |
TheLastProject: bones mod. |
| 22:13 |
TheLastProject |
I thought suicide to get back to my home was a sane choice... |
| 22:13 |
TheLastProject |
It used to be :( |
| 22:13 |
khonkhortisan |
bones mod |
| 22:13 |
Uberi |
TheLastProject: bones |
| 22:13 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: ninja'd :) |
| 22:13 |
Uberi |
go back to where you died |
| 22:13 |
khonkhortisan |
Uberi, too |
| 22:13 |
Uberi |
ya |
| 22:13 |
TheLastProject |
Huh, what? |
| 22:14 |
TheLastProject |
No, I don't want mods =/ |
| 22:14 |
Uberi |
TheLastProject: go back to where you died |
| 22:14 |
khonkhortisan |
black thing with a skull on it |
| 22:14 |
khonkhortisan |
remove bones mod then |
| 22:14 |
TheLastProject |
I don't remember where I died... |
| 22:14 |
Uberi |
TheLastProject: no, it's a default mod |
| 22:14 |
TheLastProject |
I got lost... |
| 22:14 |
arsdragonfly |
I'm still in my bed and don't feel like getting up |
| 22:14 |
Uberi |
like, it comes with Minetest |
| 22:14 |
VanessaE |
TheLastProject: the bones mod comes as part of minetest_game in 0.4.7 and up. |
| 22:14 |
arsdragonfly |
my server is on my phone |
| 22:14 |
TheLastProject |
Ah, and that makes me lose all my stuff? |
| 22:14 |
Uberi |
yep |
| 22:14 |
TheLastProject |
Dammit... |
| 22:14 |
Uberi |
TheLastProject: no big deal, we can help you find it if you post your debug.txt |
| 22:14 |
VanessaE |
you have to find your bones, get your stuff back, and then go uninstall the mod. |
| 22:14 |
TheLastProject |
I wish this was in the changelog :( |
| 22:15 |
TheLastProject |
Is the debug.txt on the server? |
| 22:15 |
Uberi |
debug.txt is in your bin folder |
| 22:15 |
TheLastProject |
Because this is not my server |
| 22:15 |
Uberi |
oh yeah then you're outta luck |
| 22:15 |
VanessaE |
"* Drop common mods system, Survival and Build game; minetest_game includes all common mods and the bones mod from Survival now (PilzAdam) http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6034" |
| 22:15 |
VanessaE |
^^^ changelog. |
| 22:15 |
arsdragonfly |
btw it's hard for your server to be even slower |
| 22:15 |
Uberi |
what if I run it on an abacus |
| 22:15 |
arsdragonfly |
cuz i run debian on android |
| 22:16 |
arsdragonfly |
uh that doesn't even work I think :-/ |
| 22:16 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: maybe he runs his on sand and stones, http://xkcd.com/505/ |
| 22:16 |
TheLastProject |
VanessaE: I don't see anything about losing items there =/ |
| 22:16 |
VanessaE |
TheLastProject: that's what the bones mod does. Thought everyone knew that? |
| 22:16 |
khonkhortisan |
Quoth the desert, 505. |
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Uberi |
TheLastProject: that's because you don't lose your items |
| 22:17 |
Uberi |
they still exist |
| 22:17 |
Uberi |
but not on your person |
| 22:17 |
TheLastProject |
VanessaE: I do not because I don't constantly check everything. I just read the changelog and assumed to be up-to-date |
| 22:17 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: that's one of my all-time favourites |
| 22:17 |
TheLastProject |
Uberi: That's what I call "losing". I at very least would've liked to know that BEFORE I jumped off the cliff :P |
| 22:17 |
VanessaE |
TheLastProject: fair enough - we know not to assume anything about this game now, don't we? ;) |
| 22:18 |
TheLastProject |
VanessaE: What is the point of a changelog if it doesn't keep me up-to-date, though? =/ |
| 22:18 |
TheLastProject |
Then again, it depends on what you see as important changes |
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TheLastProject |
I guess it is clear I consider this one important :P |
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VanessaE |
TheLastProject: well in theory the changelog needs to say what was added, removed, or moved, but not necessarily to explain such things. |
| 22:18 |
Uberi |
TheLastProject: what isn't clear about the change? |
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Uberi |
it says pretty obviously that the bones mod was added, after all |
| 22:18 |
kaeza |
http://www.bash.org/?39183 |
| 22:19 |
Uberi |
and there's a link to a forum topic where the bones mod is described as waylaying your items upon death |
| 22:19 |
TheLastProject |
Uberi: If the bones mod literally only does that, it would've been useful to mention it :P |
| 22:20 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 22:20 |
TheLastProject |
I mean, if it's a HUGE list of changes then of course it makes little sense to list it all |
| 22:20 |
TheLastProject |
But yeah |
| 22:20 |
TheLastProject |
Oh well :P |
| 22:20 |
Uberi |
TheLastProject: yeah that's pretty much all bones does |
| 22:20 |
* TheLastProject |
goes to find his albums back |
| 22:20 |
khonkhortisan |
Still working on a crossover for mesecons, currently 309 additions, 37 deletions (including print statements) |
| 22:21 |
Uberi |
to add an incentive not to die in survival mode |
| 22:21 |
Uberi |
khonkhortisan: great to hear it, I can't wait to see that |
| 22:21 |
TheLastProject |
I understand the reasoning, really |
| 22:21 |
TheLastProject |
I just wish I knew it BEFORE I jumped off the cliff, heh |
| 22:22 |
Uberi |
ah well |
| 22:22 |
TheLastProject |
I wonder which of the many mountains I jumped off >.< |
| 22:22 |
Uberi |
any landmarks? |
| 22:22 |
Uberi |
retrace your steps perhaps? |
| 22:23 |
TheLastProject |
I got lost, which is why I jumped off, heh |
| 22:23 |
TheLastProject |
So now I need to get lost in the same way |
| 22:23 |
TheLastProject |
Somehow |
| 22:23 |
TheLastProject |
And no, no landmarks |
| 22:23 |
TheLastProject |
I just know I was on a high mountain |
| 22:23 |
TheLastProject |
But it's FILLED with that |
| 22:23 |
Uberi |
better start looking in valleys then |
| 22:24 |
TheLastProject |
Hmm, yeah |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Decoration: Change divlen to sidelen 56093b6614 2013-06-17T15:23:31-07:00 http://git.io/WQyZGw |
| 22:25 |
Uberi |
and in the future, if you get lost, the F5 coordinates are real useful |
| 22:25 |
khonkhortisan |
I leave those coordinates on while I play |
| 22:26 |
TheLastProject |
Well, useful tip, khonkhortisan |
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Frogphone |
Guys, do you think I'm allergic to women? My dick keeps swelling up... |
| 22:27 |
TheLastProject |
My stuff won't disappear after a certain time limit, will it? |
| 22:27 |
khonkhortisan |
do you think we don't know you already know the answer? |
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kaeza |
TheLastProject, nope |
| 22:28 |
TheLastProject |
Good |
| 22:28 |
kaeza |
in multiplayer, you have 2 hrs IIRC to pick up your stuff |
| 22:29 |
kaeza |
after that, the bones become old and anyone can pick them up |
| 22:30 |
TheLastProject |
Yay, found it |
| 22:30 |
Uberi |
really? nice |
| 22:31 |
TheLastProject |
I've never seen a box of bones before, but oh well :P |
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frogcrush |
TheLastProject: I have, and its creepy |
| 22:32 |
TheLastProject |
Now I'm lost again. Ugh, my lack of sense of orientation sucks! >.< |
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khonkhortisan |
With a blocky world, there's only eight directions |
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khonkhortisan |
12½% chance of going the right way |
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arsdragonfly |
khonkhortisan ,that's 1/8 for every step |
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Uberi |
ignoring duplicates, of course |
| 22:40 |
arsdragonfly |
and (1/8)^n for n steps, so chances are that you'll get lost :-P |
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Uberi |
only (1/8)^n unique paths, there are only (8/sqrt(2))^2*n paths with unique locations |
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Uberi |
sorry, I meant 4*n/sqrt(2) |
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Exio |
wat |
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Uberi |
1/sqrt(2) is the ratio of walk length diagonal to the area of the square formed from the origin to the destination |
| 22:45 |
Uberi |
since there are 4 such squares, multiply by 4 and then the length of the diagonal |
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Uberi |
assuming we're measuring with manhattan distance |
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ch98 |
is there any way to force xcode to build for ppc and not intel? |
| 22:47 |
PilzAdam |
ch98, you asked this yesterday and got an answer |
| 22:48 |
ch98 |
oh I did? |
| 22:48 |
khonkhortisan |
I remember you asking, but I don't remember an answer |
| 22:48 |
ch98 |
checking logs |
| 22:49 |
PilzAdam |
http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-06-16#i_3145516 |
| 22:50 |
PilzAdam |
you asked several times before that, but thats the one where you got an answer |
| 22:51 |
ch98 |
oh that. ppc never stays ppc and just went back to i368. I was asking how to force it to stay ppc? |
| 22:52 |
Uberi |
set your env vars system-wide, maybe |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Decoration, Ore: Resolve node names on Mapgen init 0b20768a24 2013-06-17T15:51:29-07:00 http://git.io/8Dzk-A |
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Uberi |
export something something |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest_game: Generate clay with register_ore() b0ab4fb4ab 2013-06-17T17:51:26-07:00 http://git.io/iLaQHQ |
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Uberi |
whoa this new GitHub interface is awesome |
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khonkhortisan |
yes it is |
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Uberi |
voidlord, is that you? |
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khonkhortisan |
Is there a secret option I can set to make it remember my password? |
| 23:04 |
Exio |
yes, hacking the code and implementing it in a secure way! |
| 23:05 |
Exio |
(outside that, i guess doing that will be way easier with the luaformspec-menu) |
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khonkhortisan |
I don't care if it's secure, I just don't want to type it in :) |
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GIT: EXio4 commited to minetest/minetest: Remove useless recalculation of bounding box (mapblock_mesh) 816ffa99ba 2013-06-17T16:11:46-07:00 http://git.io/YsGUuA |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Fix calculation of selected item (for not drawing it) in formspec c8ed61b281 2013-06-17T16:18:54-07:00 http://git.io/m9T7FQ |
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GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Formspec: Don't perform black magic if selected item fits the guess d74c377337 2013-06-17T16:32:11-07:00 http://git.io/KySkdA |
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khonkhortisan |
Not suprisingly, a menger _sponge_ is very good at catching item drops. |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Show number of objects in client environment in profiler (F6) 261f559339 2013-06-17T16:49:06-07:00 http://git.io/lojDAg |
