Time Nick Message 00:13 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Extend a delay in TestConnection from 50 to 100 milliseconds. eccd1fdbed 2013-06-16T17:09:50-07:00 http://git.io/"https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/eccd1fdbeddce60717f8fcbecded5b36387e3b38" was supposed to be shortened to "I8Mdlg", but "https://github.com/LunarLogicPolska/kanbanery/commit/f81d3e5383a6a32ed4914eadd3ab35366d7bc9bf" already is! 00:14 ch98 has anyone here built minetest in any ppc machene? 00:14 kahrl what did I just do to MinetestBot 00:14 Exio you broke, you repair it 00:15 PilzAdam she was broken before 00:15 ch98 it is she? 00:16 PilzAdam rule #1: bots are female 00:16 ch98 what kind of rule is that? 00:16 diemartin rule #34: no exceptions 00:16 khonkhortisan oceans and ships (including spaceships) too 00:19 ch98 what is the 32 rule between 1 and 34? 00:19 PilzAdam rule #34 actually contains more than that 00:20 kaeza nsfw 00:21 ch98 well I know the rule # 34 but what is the rule in between 1 and 34 00:22 VanessaE rule #2, there are no rules from 3 to 33. 00:22 Exio rule #3-33 see rule #2? 00:22 Exio ;P 00:23 khonkhortisan I'm expecting someone to post a link to these rules 00:23 ch98 you should have a forum post for this. 00:23 Exio !google internet rules 00:23 ch98 (there is no link 00:23 Exio MinetestBot: ew 00:23 VanessaE rule #35: rule #34 may not apply in the UK after 2014. 00:24 khonkhortisan !g MinetestBot 00:24 PilzAdam MinetestBot is broken 00:24 PilzAdam !kick PilzAdam 00:24 PilzAdam see? 00:24 Exio :( 00:24 PilzAdam only thing that works: 00:24 PilzAdam MinetestBot! 00:24 MinetestBot PilzAdam! 00:24 Exio TEST with 3.599999 seconds 00:25 Exio i hate floats 00:25 Menche should ShadowBot take over? 00:25 Exio ShadowBot: kill MinetestBot 00:25 PilzAdam ShadowBot, kick MinetestBot 00:25 Exio wtf? 00:25 PilzAdam hello ShadowBot 00:26 ShadowBot Hello PilzAdam! 00:26 PilzAdam Exio, pm 00:26 Exio ok :P 00:26 Exio i wonder 00:27 Exio ffffffff 00:27 Exio shadowbot is now ignoring me :( 00:27 PilzAdam !unignore Exio 00:27 Exio !admin ignore list 00:27 Exio ^ supybot command 00:28 kaeza [21:23:01] rule #35: rule #34 may not apply in the UK after 2014. 00:28 kaeza wrong 00:28 khonkhortisan On github, can I compare two branches without starting the pull request process? 00:28 kaeza rule #35: if there isn't it will be made 00:28 PilzAdam Rule 35: If no porn is found at the moment, it will be made. 00:28 khonkhortisan - If I didn't recently push to it? 00:28 VanessaE ok rule 36 then 00:28 PilzAdam khonkhortisan, yes 00:28 VanessaE (for some reason I thought that was part of rule 34) 00:30 ch98 all the (most likly) original rules. http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/30662 00:30 Exio kaeza: why not? 00:30 Exio http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/06/isps-to-include-porn-filters-as-standard-in-uk-by-2014/ 00:30 PilzAdam khonkhortisan, https://github.com/your_name/your_repo/compare/branch1...branch2 00:32 kaeza Exio, I was saying about rule numbering ;) 00:33 kaeza also, to UK govt: gl;hf 00:33 ch98 rule one of ch98 there is 50% chance that anything on internet is a lie so do not trust rules of internet or this rule. 00:33 PilzAdam ch98, what are your sexual preferences? 00:33 ch98 why? 00:33 PilzAdam no real reason 00:34 kaeza he wants to marry you 00:34 ch98 ...... 00:34 PilzAdam just following rule 27 00:34 khonkhortisan rule from the internet: everything on the internet is true 00:35 ch98 rule one of ch98: don't trust internet 00:36 ch98 and my rule that is on internet 00:37 ch98 following my original rule 1, there is 25% chance rule of internet is not true 00:37 VanessaE more like 85% 00:37 ch98 but my rule is 50% by chance not true 00:38 kaeza "Just because you read it on the internet does not mean it's true" -- Abraham Lincoln 00:39 khonkhortisan "85% of all quotes are made up on the spot" - Github creator 00:40 arsdragonfly|pho s/Abraham Lincoln/kaeza 00:40 khonkhortisan s/Github creator/khonkhortisan/ 00:42 PilzAdam s/*/PilzAdam/g 00:42 Exio s/.*/hi 00:42 Exio :D 00:43 khonkhortisan PilzAdamPilzAdamPilzAdam PilzAdamPilzAdam PilzAdam. 00:43 PilzAdam PilzAdam PilzAdam PilzAdam PilzAdam PilzAdam 00:47 ch98 Rules of ch98 is officially on offtopic 00:52 PilzAdam ch98, how can a rule "apple" to something? 00:53 ch98 because it was still the lie part of 50% 00:58 ch98 my USB is starting to smell like old car 00:59 ch98 and starting to turn a paper black 01:06 Exio haha 01:06 PilzAdam ch98, are you sure its your USB stick and not your printer? 01:07 Exio my lowend phone sucks at hashing 01:13 Roukoswarf anyone know where changelogs can be found? i dont seem to find any around 01:13 Exio http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog 01:13 Exio !title 01:13 ShadowBot Exio: title [--no-filter] 01:13 Exio aww 01:13 Roukoswarf that works 01:14 Roukoswarf its not in the title, or i would have seen it :p 01:15 Exio 0.34khash/s with scrypt 01:16 VanessaE computing what? 01:16 Exio just running --benchmark with cpuminerd 01:16 Exio s/d$// 01:16 VanessaE oh 01:16 Exio https://github.com/pooler/cpuminer 01:16 * Roukoswarf continues waiting for survival aspects like cave-ins that increase risk the farther down you go 01:17 VanessaE Roukoswarf: you have a super computer handy? 01:17 Roukoswarf VanessaE: sure, why not? 01:17 VanessaE it's hard enough just making a small mass of sand fall reliably 01:17 Roukoswarf hm, totalminer on x360 seemed to do cave ins alright 01:18 Roukoswarf at least, acceptably 01:18 Roukoswarf no fancy physics 01:18 Roukoswarf just, screenshake and block fall damaging you 01:18 Roukoswarf in about a 30x30 block area around you, any open areas fall randomly 01:20 PilzAdam good night everyone 01:20 Exio http://cadoth.net/~exio4/arm/minerd-noncurl 01:20 Exio with this binary i get 0.34khash/s in my lg p350g 01:21 ch98 so does anyone have time to test my concrete mod? I can't test it with ppc 01:21 Exio (some cheap arm/android phone, overclocked up to 800mhz, default is 600mhz) 01:21 Roukoswarf ch98: whats it do? 01:21 VanessaE ch98: use a virtual machine and run linux or so. 01:21 VanessaE Roukoswarf: it makes liquid concrete that can be poured into forms and hardens into walls 01:22 ch98 there is no efficent virtural machene for ppc 01:22 Roukoswarf VanessaE: a virtual machine translation to ppc would be a mess 01:22 VanessaE true. 01:22 Roukoswarf ch98: i could test it for you, havnt fired up the game in a while 01:22 VanessaE well there's only one other solution - get some x86 hardware and try it. 01:23 ch98 ok here is the link 01:23 * khonkhortisan stumbles through mesecon code 01:23 Exio i said "buy a cheap apu" 01:23 VanessaE khonkhortisan: how goes the crossover/null cell? 01:23 Exio or an old pc 01:23 ch98 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5753 01:23 khonkhortisan I think is_conductor_on shall return true if any wire is on, and true if there's a rule given, and that metarule is on. 01:24 khonkhortisan and I also think it should be crossover instead of crossing 01:25 VanessaE yes 01:26 ch98 my old pc is broken but still fixable cheeper than buying another old one 01:26 Exio fix it the 01:26 Exio +n 01:26 ch98 there is no computer cheeper than $15 01:26 Roukoswarf ch98: a haswell these days runs at about 250$ 01:27 Roukoswarf especially when they release bga 01:27 Exio intel is overpriced 01:27 Exio buy an APU 01:27 Roukoswarf Exio: the issue is AMD is behind a mountain in die size, and other things 01:27 Exio he wants a cheap pc 01:27 Exio Roukoswarf: he wants price/performance 01:28 Roukoswarf theres really no x86 worth beans under 250$ 01:28 Roukoswarf unless you go legacy to the point of uselessness 01:28 ch98 I allady have a computer that is perfect exept that minetest refuse to run 01:28 Exio my fx works pretty well Roukoswarf 01:28 ch98 and computer with few brown capaciters 01:29 Exio i can compile minetest in less than a minute, and play my games with more than 60 FPS, i'm ok with this 01:29 Roukoswarf ch98: the computer refuses to run minetest? did you try finding the problem? 01:29 Exio if i need more power, i overclock 01:29 Exio Roukoswarf: he can't compile it for ppc 01:29 VanessaE I think he means his PPC mac 01:29 Roukoswarf ah 01:30 Exio Roukoswarf: why "there isn't" any x86 worth under 250USD? 01:30 Roukoswarf Exio: haswell these days, beats any amd 01:30 ch98 ppc ubuntu refused to install for some reason 01:30 Exio i know 01:30 Exio but are you telling me you need an i7 4770K for playing games in facebook, or what the fuck? 01:30 Roukoswarf Exio: find me an x86 setup under 250$? 01:30 Exio oh, you mean full computer? 01:31 Roukoswarf yes.... 01:31 Roukoswarf i can build a haswell brand spanking new, minus power supply and other menial things, for 250-300 01:31 Roukoswarf thats literally the cheapest i could build 01:31 ch98 Is it possible to make portable minetest on other ppc ubuntu machene and run it in live cd? 01:31 Roukoswarf legacy parts from amd would be the same price, at 1/10th the speed 01:32 Roukoswarf ch98: technically, yes, possible yet painfil 01:32 Roukoswarf painful* 01:32 Exio Roukoswarf: what prices with an APU + cheap mobo? 01:32 Roukoswarf Exio: how expencive is a decent quad apu? 01:32 ch98 live cd does work so I think it is the only possible way 01:33 Roukoswarf ch98: why not try figuring out why it does not install? 01:33 Roukoswarf also if you want nice arch support, use debian 01:33 Roukoswarf ubuntu is a bastard child of mac users these days 01:34 Exio Roukoswarf: i don't know prices outside argentina 01:34 ch98 only thing that even starts booting 01:34 ch98 is ubuntu 01:34 Roukoswarf Exio: im in canada, would be +-10$ 01:34 Roukoswarf ch98: give me an error message 01:34 Exio Roukoswarf: +-10USD? 01:34 Roukoswarf Exio: yeah 01:35 Exio tell me the price for 8gb of ram, 1600mhz, hyperx, kingston 01:35 Roukoswarf 18$ 01:35 Exio 115 USD 01:35 Roukoswarf wait 01:35 Roukoswarf 8 gig? 01:35 Exio yes 01:35 Roukoswarf 36$ 01:35 Roukoswarf have some of that stuff myself 01:36 Exio i don't think a 1600mhz 8gb module with hyperx costs 36USD 01:37 Roukoswarf http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104244 01:37 Roukoswarf i got mine for 18-20$ locally with a good deal 01:38 Roukoswarf ch98: Im kinda the owner of the arch linux google+ community, got a problem, throw me an error to solve 01:40 Roukoswarf Exio: why are prices so high in argentina? 01:40 Roukoswarf shipping there couldnt be that expencive 01:41 Exio Roukoswarf: black magic 01:41 ch98 problem # 1... Why does xcode only build intel executable even if i set it to ppc? 01:41 ch98 when compiling mac 01:41 ch98 minetest 01:41 Roukoswarf ch98: cause apple doesnt care about ppc anymore 01:42 ch98 but xcode is 2.5 from days when apple did cair about ppc 01:43 kaeza VanessaE, http://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_posts&user_id=6149 01:43 Exio Roukoswarf: do you know mauvedic? 01:44 VanessaE kaeza: dealt. 01:44 Roukoswarf Exio: brings up no google results, and i have never heard it before, what is it? 01:44 khonkhortisan mauvebic 01:44 Exio mauvebic k 01:45 kaeza VanessaE, thanks :) 01:45 Roukoswarf i see religious things 01:48 ch98 I will try ubuntu live so i will be off for some time 01:51 ch98 mauvebic: From: Klach D'Kel Brakt, Registered: 2012-01-27, Last post: Yesterday 07:33:09, Posts: 1,292, Website: http://sites.google.com/site/mauvebic/ 01:52 ch98 bye 01:59 Exio how cute 01:59 Exio i made my phone get a kernel panic 02:00 Kacey hey guys i have a question 02:01 Kacey how do i host a local server and connect to it from a different computer on the same network? 02:02 VanessaE use the "Advanced" tab. 02:02 Kacey i did 02:02 VanessaE one minetest instance running that, another connecting via the regular "multiplayer" tab. 02:03 VanessaE use the LAN IP of the machine running the server 02:03 Kacey i tried. it doesnt work 02:03 VanessaE to tell the client to connect to it. 02:03 VanessaE then you're doing it wrong :-) 02:03 Exio i just looked at http://www.bash.org/?244321 02:03 Exio i laughed for nth time 02:04 Kacey i did it before,,, 02:06 Kacey hrmmmmmm... 02:07 Kacey maybe if i make runserver.bat run then i can get somewhere 02:10 kaeza Exio, rofl 02:14 Exio http://www.bash.org/?117002 02:15 arsdragonfly how can I tell if /clearobjects is finished? 02:16 VanessaE it'll tell you 02:16 arsdragonfly hmmmm 02:17 Kacey still not working 02:18 Kacey will it work over a wireless network? 02:18 VanessaE should be fine 02:18 VanessaE as long as your network handles UDP properly. 02:19 * Kacey is wondering why this isnt working 02:19 Kacey i have done it before on the same network 03:04 VanessaE khonkhortisan: can you check the functioning of solar panels and vertical wires? I'm seeing some kind of intermittent inversion issue 03:05 VanessaE (solar panels returning "on" when there's no light, and vice versa) 03:06 VanessaE (or just check the functioning of the solar panels anyway) 03:07 VanessaE might be abm-related, abms seem to have simply... stopped. 03:07 VanessaE yep, had to restart the server. 03:08 khonkhortisan so... no problem anymore? 03:08 VanessaE after the restart it's fine. 03:09 VanessaE khonkhortisan: now that said, there IS a problem with block updates 03:09 VanessaE circuits only turning on partly, etc. 03:10 VanessaE not sure if that's a mesecons issue or a client<->server communication issue 03:10 khonkhortisan it is hard to tell, in a correctly functioning circuit, you can have pieces appear to stay on 03:11 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2006162013%20-%2011:10:35%20PM.png 03:11 arsdragonfly what's the best way to copy an image to my remote host1free webserver? 03:11 arsdragonfly can I finish ftp uploading in a one-line command? 03:11 VanessaE that, for example. I know that whole sign works. 03:12 khonkhortisan looks like a block border? 03:12 VanessaE might be, I'm not sure 03:13 VanessaE yeah, seems to be 03:13 VanessaE it's right close to Y+16 03:14 VanessaE if I go into the control room and turn the sign off/on, it lights up fully 03:15 VanessaE I've seen this happening a LOT with worldedit too 03:15 VanessaE block updates just...go missing 03:15 VanessaE I'll move a large structure and then have to logout/in after the move has completed, to see the result if it didn't update the first time. 03:15 VanessaE hmmmm: ^^^^ this may be in your court? 03:16 khonkhortisan With worldedit, I've had both a plane cutoff, and a few single-node CONTENT_IGNORE holes 03:18 hmmmm ? 03:18 hmmmm no, this is not related to me 03:19 VanessaE thought you might have some insight since you're the mapgen/emergethread god :) 03:29 Exio night 03:30 khonkhortisan oh silly me I have a function that returns a table, and I'm trying to access the table directly 03:30 Dogzilla131 Did modding change? 03:31 VanessaE Dogzilla131: change how? 03:31 khonkhortisan dump() doesn't crash on table values 03:31 Dogzilla131 Format 03:31 VanessaE where you must put mods has changed, but that's about it as far as major changes 03:31 Dogzilla131 Where should I put now? 03:31 khonkhortisan ~/.minetest/mods/modname instead of ~/.minetest/mods/minetest/modname 03:37 khonkhortisan I want to overwrite a bit in binary, and I end up chopping strings 03:47 khonkhortisan woohoo! 20:46:45: ERROR[main]: ServerError: LuaError: error: C++ exception 04:03 khonkhortisan var1 = {}; var2 = var1[0]; C++ exception 04:03 khonkhortisan Of course it doesn't work, it's just that it should be more descriptive 04:16 arsdragonfly http://arsenalmp.no-ip.org? 04:16 arsdragonfly http://arsenalmp.no-ip.org/ 04:16 arsdragonfly server dynamic map finished :-D 04:17 khonkhortisan It updates while the world is running? 04:17 khonkhortisan I see a grass+desert biome 04:25 arsdragonfly khonkhortisan: yes 04:26 arsdragonfly every 15 minutes 04:26 arsdragonfly I modified PilzAdam's map mod 04:26 arsdragonfly !server ping:most 04:26 ShadowBot arsdragonfly: server server [--showdesc] 04:34 ShadowNinja Oops, have to fix the help. ,,(server --ping most) 04:34 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: Ray's server | 173.195.255.46 | clients: 3/17 | version: 0.4.7-7734717 | ping: 0.215 04:35 ShadowNinja Wait, it might have been ,,(server --ping highest) 04:35 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: Arsdragonfly's server | arsenalmp.no-ip.org | clients: 0/1 | version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.560 04:35 ShadowNinja Yea. 04:35 arsdragonfly|pho as always 04:35 arsdragonfly|pho it's mine :-/ 04:45 ShadowNinja !help server 04:45 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: (server server [--{name,address,players,ping,port} ]) -- On numeric options like 'ping', 'port' and 'players' can be num, num, !num, highest, or lowest. 04:46 ShadowNinja Redundant 'server' removed. 04:53 Menche is there a way to enable creative mode per-world? 05:06 ch98 internet didn't work on ubuntu live cd 05:08 arsdragonfly|pho ch98 IIRC you should edit resolv.conf 05:09 ch98 what is that? 05:11 arsdragonfly|pho add this line 05:11 arsdragonfly|pho in etc/resolv.conf 05:11 arsdragonfly|pho nameserver 8.8.8.8 05:16 ch98 can someone test 05:16 ch98 my concrete mod? 05:16 ch98 also, what does that do? 05:17 ShadowNinja ch98: Uses google's main DNS server. 05:17 ch98 what is good about it? 05:19 ShadowNinja Well you have a DNS server if it isn't already configured, you probably don't need to do that, more likely a driver issue. 05:24 khonkhortisan I was just thinking, concrete could be a less-capable version of worldedit. You'd place concrete, get a formspec to tell it what node to turn into. It would take the texture of that node, with the texture slightly altered to tell that it's still concrete. After it flows how much you want it to, then you do something to it to partially harden, then you can dig it. Then depending on how the mod was set up, either an admin can come 05:24 khonkhortisan along and finish the hardening process, or you could. Concrete in this form would both be additive and subtractive. 05:24 * khonkhortisan watches as the bot doesn't kick him. 05:28 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: I made it smarter than that. 05:28 ch98 something happend and I accidentally logged off 05:35 ch98 so... did anyone test my concrete mod 1.5? 05:37 khonkhortisan I gotta go download me some concrete then 05:39 ch98 read last post and the first so you know what to test. I don't have intel so I can't run minetest. 05:40 ch98 link.... http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5753 05:54 ch98 bye. post resolt in forum 06:14 khonkhortisan concrete doesn't look any different than reinforced concrete 06:15 khonkhortisan no different digging with hand creative 06:16 khonkhortisan lol placing drying concrete dries the rest of the concrete - that's simple 07:25 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Add initial Decoration support, many misc. improvements & modifications 0a8519a26f 2013-06-17T00:21:36-07:00 http://git.io/1MkRtQ 08:36 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Eat Your Vegetables Day! :-D 10:08 bdjnk I've got a question about timers and abms vs node timers. 10:08 bdjnk But rather than repeat it here, have a forum link: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95191#p95191 10:09 bdjnk I'm off to bed. 10:19 Jordach hey all 10:19 Jordach hey Calinou 10:20 Jordach having the vomit bug isnt any fun 10:20 * Jordach sees lamefun in wazyclan #minetest 10:23 * john_minetest built the beginning of an epic underground line on VanessaE's server 10:33 Jordach john_minetest, very nice 10:38 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:38 Jordach hey PilzAdam 10:48 Jordach i opened another hexchat 11:14 Jordach hey Calino 11:14 Jordach Calinou* 11:15 Calinou hi 11:16 Jordach Calinou, that HP Tower i said about last night works 11:16 Jordach we fed it Linux and it came to life 11:44 Calinou ah 11:45 PilzAdam Calinou, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95201#p95201 11:49 Calinou dat avatar, kaeza 12:38 Taoki I have a question. Is it possible (with any mapgen or system) to register and set / unset Lua variables for biomes? 12:38 Taoki Either for an instance of a biome, or the definition of that biome (in cases like mapgen v7) 12:45 PilzAdam Calinou, http://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_posts&user_id=6157 12:46 sfan5 hello 12:48 PilzAdam is MinetestBot fixed? 12:50 lamefun That's why we need the Global Government to forcibly unify everything, too many 3D engines, 3D formats, nothing works, designs by commiittee aren't perfect (JavaScript, HTML5), but skills, techniques and most importantly TOOLS --- tools are all, debug, introspect, UNIFIED everything --- UNIFIED tools --- best for the world! 12:52 PilzAdam MinetestBot! 12:52 MinetestBot PilzAdam! 12:53 PilzAdam are you fixed yet? 12:53 PilzAdam sfan5, !msg still doesnt work 12:53 sfan5 !join worked 12:53 sfan5 hm 12:53 sfan5 weird 12:53 sfan5 wait 12:53 sfan5 could this be 12:54 sfan5 ShadowBot: ... 12:54 sfan5 .re 12:54 sfan5 .help 12:54 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md 12:54 sfan5 oh what the fuck 12:54 PilzAdam !help 12:54 ShadowBot PilzAdam: help [] [] 12:55 PilzAdam can someone ban him already? http://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_posts&user_id=6157 12:55 PilzAdam he keeps posting things 12:56 sfan5 done. 12:56 lamefun Interesting Fact! 3D tools are in total chaos, we need the Global Government's intervention fast! 12:57 sfan5 !help 12:57 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md 12:57 sfan5 finally 12:58 MinetestBot YAY! I work again! 12:58 sfan5 !re TheLastProjectÂ´([A-Z].*) 12:58 MinetestBot sfan5: Failed to compile regex: unbalanced parenthesis 12:58 sfan5 ? 12:58 sfan5 PilzAdam: it was my fault, I should have set the config values correctly 12:59 sfan5 !re TheLastProjectÂ´[A-Z].* 12:59 MinetestBot false 12:59 sfan5 !re ([A-Z].*)`TheLastProject 12:59 MinetestBot true groups=['TheLastProject'] 12:59 sfan5 !re ([A-Z][^A-Z]*)`TheLastProject 12:59 MinetestBot true groups=['The', 'Last', 'Project'] 13:00 PilzAdam !re ([A-Z][^A-Z]*)`PilzAdam 13:00 MinetestBot true groups=['Pilz', 'Adam'] 13:04 sfan5 !re ([A-Z][^A-Z]*)`john_minetest 13:04 MinetestBot false 13:04 sfan5 !re ([A-Z][^A-Z]*)`MinetestBot 13:04 MinetestBot true groups=['Minetest', 'Bot'] 13:04 sfan5 \o/ 13:07 MinetestBot false 13:29 arsdragonfly|pho how to set a cooldown for /home in unifiedinventory? 13:51 sfan5 !c 2^2 13:51 MinetestBot 4 13:51 sfan5 !c 2^3 13:51 MinetestBot 8 13:51 sfan5 !c 2^8 13:51 MinetestBot 256 14:09 rubenwardy Hi all! 14:12 sfan5 hi 14:40 lamefun We need the ONEist Global Government to forcibly unify too many 3D engines, 3D formats, nothing works, skills, techniques and most importantly TOOLS --- tools are all, debug, introspect, UNIFIED everything --- UNIFIED tools --- best for the world! 14:41 sfan5 lamefun: you said that 2 hours ago 14:41 rubenwardy Spam? 14:42 sfan5 !re ([A-Z][^A-Z]*)`TheLastProject 14:42 MinetestBot true groups=['The', 'Last', 'Project'] 14:44 lamefun I know, acknowledge true, TOOLS, skillsets, DEBUG, INTROSPECT --- that is all, too many 3D formats for ONE --- UNFIED --- 3D tooling is chaos - PURE CHAOS --- thats why there are so little even simpliest open-source 3D games --- DirectX INDUCSTRU STANDARD --- that's why! 14:45 lamefun Even LUA vs JAVascript issue is nothing in COomparison with This! 14:46 PilzAdam lamefun, stop it. now 14:46 lamefun Can't I even complain? 14:46 PilzAdam no, not in this channel 14:52 PilzAdam john_minetest, dont feed that troll 14:54 BlockMen hi 14:54 lamefun hm 14:54 BlockMen where can i find a list of graphics functions like "^[lowpart"? 14:54 PilzAdam tiles.cpp 14:54 lamefun maybe I just ran into irrlicht bug? the pole node should only affect part of model, but when I try to set its position, the whole model is upside down and inside out 14:55 BlockMen PA, thx 14:55 PilzAdam something arround line 1500 14:55 ShadowNinja The entity being fliped is a known bug. 14:57 lamefun ShadowNinja, workarounds? 14:58 ShadowNinja None. 14:59 ShadowNinja I don't know what causes it. 15:04 BlockMen PA, am i wrong or is there no "^[lowpart" for horizontal? 15:04 PilzAdam just rotate it before and after ^[lowpart 15:05 PilzAdam you want to do that furnace progress arrow, right? 15:05 BlockMen very good for resources :P 15:05 BlockMen and yes 15:18 BlockMen kinda hacky but it works http://i.imgur.com/6v7GbUk.png 15:25 VanessaE hi all. 15:25 Jordach hey VanessaE 15:26 VanessaE cool 15:34 PilzAdam wtf? 15:34 PilzAdam I had Minetest runnning in background for a bit, and now its acting completly weird 15:34 PilzAdam the FPS in the title is switching like crazy between 30 and 60 and I actually get something like 10 FPS 15:35 PilzAdam when standing still, the walk sound is looped 15:36 PilzAdam F6 is just printing garbage 15:36 PilzAdam mainly "0" and "inf" 15:36 PilzAdam running another instance of Minetest works fine 15:38 PilzAdam everything else seems to work 15:38 rubenwardy you broke it! 15:38 VanessaE it does something similar for me, too 15:38 VanessaE the longer the client runs, the worse its performance 15:39 Jordach that sounds like meshes not being deleted 15:39 VanessaE (usually takes an hour or two for it to become irritating enough to demand a client restart) 15:39 PilzAdam VanessaE, it came out of the sudden 15:39 PilzAdam started to hearing the footstep sounds suddenly 15:40 PilzAdam then I investigated 15:40 VanessaE Jordach: when I open most formspecs, especially inventory, the display flickers for a second - like the formspec is drawn and then deleted several times in a row 15:40 VanessaE PilzAdam: probably not the exact same bug but a bug nonetheless. 15:40 PilzAdam top says minetest is at 60% CPU 15:40 VanessaE Jordach: happens when switching pages too. 15:40 Jordach anyways, i should be upgrading my processor to Intel Dual Core soon 15:41 PilzAdam RAM usage is normal, I guess 15:41 khonkhortisan http://pastebin.com/4QGbXeN0 15:42 khonkhortisan he who clicketh find outeth what it isth. He who waiteth listenth to he who clicketh. 15:44 PilzAdam well, the FPS are kinda weird, looking arround is like 60 FPS, but walking arround and digging animation is like 10 FPS 15:44 khonkhortisan ok, so I'll tell you. It's two ways minetest crashes. 15:45 VanessaE PilzAdam: I get the same problem with the digging animation especially with HDX - some materials dig normally, some materials drop me to like 5fps or less while digging 15:46 PilzAdam also, it seems like walking is exacly 1 node per step 15:46 VanessaE call me bitter, but I guess no one who can fix these performance lags gives a shit. 15:47 PilzAdam it seems like movement just lost its float precision 15:49 PilzAdam clicking right mouse button always triggers 2 node placements 16:17 khonkhortisan and this is the minetest channel, and the path includes minetest 16:18 khonkhortisan and minetest.conf 16:19 khonkhortisan made too much sense to do it 16:24 kaeza mornings 16:25 VanessaE afternoon 16:25 kaeza don't mind me, I'm still asleep 16:32 Exio hi kaeza! :P 16:33 kaeza o/ 16:34 Kacey what about little old /me? 16:36 VanessaE hi Kacey 16:37 kaeza hey Kacey 16:40 thexyz http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6286 16:40 thexyz why do they shitpost? 16:41 Exio ask him 16:48 Zeg9 Hi. 16:50 Kacey if i multiply two four bit binary numbers, how many bits doi have? 16:50 Kacey do i* 16:53 khonkhortisan if mesecon:is_powered(pos, rule) then mesecon:turnon(pos, rule) end <-- I forgot a not 16:54 VanessaE john_minetest: 16*16 you mean. 16:55 VanessaE (always count one over the max value for that) 16:55 Zeg9 and 0000 is 0 16:55 VanessaE john_minetest: nevermind, it's an old habit from the old days. 17:25 rubenwardy Has my cloak worked? 17:27 sfan5 * rubenwardy (~rubenward@unaffiliated/rubenwardy) has joined #minetest 17:27 khonkhortisan yes, you only appear with your cloak. 17:27 rubenwardy good, thanks 17:27 khonkhortisan joined cloaked, quit, joined cloaked. 17:27 rubenwardy Did I join twice then? 17:28 khonkhortisan yes 17:28 khonkhortisan (Quit: You may notice this notice is not worth noticing) 17:30 PilzAdamIsTheSat damn 17:30 PilzAdamIsTheSat Missing "an" 17:30 PilzAdamIsTheSat from the name 17:30 PilzAdamIsTheSat That is annoying] 17:31 PilzAdamIsTheSat can any one else see three messages on rubenwardy joining? 17:32 khonkhortisan rubenwardy, your cloak was slow that time 17:32 khonkhortisan join, quit changing host, join cloaked 17:32 PilzAdamTheSatan annoying 17:33 khonkhortisan it was better the other way 17:33 PilzAdamTheSatan There might be something in settings... 17:34 khonkhortisan it takes over half a second to redraw the irc window when I scroll or when someone talks 17:36 rubenwardy hmmm 17:43 khonkhortisan I'm not using all of my cpu or my memory, I don't have a good reason for its slowness. 17:43 VanessaE bbl 17:43 PilzAdamTheSatan Woop! 17:43 PilzAdamTheSatan It works! 17:44 khonkhortisan yep. single, cloaked join 17:44 kaeza ... 17:44 PilzAdamTheSatan Added a delay between identify and join channels 17:44 PilzAdamTheSatan so there is now enough time to cloak before joining 17:44 Calinou hi 17:44 Calinou khonkhortisan: suddenly: storage 17:44 khonkhortisan you must be you, then. 17:44 rubenwardy Woops, wrong user 17:45 kaeza hey rubenwardy 17:45 rubenwardy /msg NickServ group PilzAdamTheSatan 17:45 rubenwardy :P 17:45 kaeza hai Calinou 17:45 rubenwardy wrong command 17:45 kaeza yep 17:45 khonkhortisan "can any one else see three messages on rubenwardy joining?" trying to make us think you're not you 17:45 rubenwardy nope 17:45 rubenwardy just being specifc 17:46 rubenwardy -NickServ- Nick PilzAdamTheSatan is now registered to your account. 17:46 rubenwardy trollololo 17:46 Calinou dat avatar, kaeza 17:46 TheLastProject Congratulations, you're a jerk! 17:46 Calinou still less cool than Taoki's 17:46 kaeza Calinou, :3 17:46 Calinou hey TheLastProject 17:46 TheLastProject Calinou: What. 17:46 rubenwardy Was that to me, TheLastProject? 17:46 Calinou TheLastProject: the? 17:46 TheLastProject Yes, rubenwardy 17:47 rubenwardy oh, cool. Just checking 17:47 Taoki You mean IRC avatar? 17:47 TheLastProject IRC avatar? 17:47 kaeza -.- 17:47 rubenwardy Did not want any one else to achieve jerk status 17:47 TheLastProject Since when... 17:47 Calinou jerk status can only be achieved by me and graphitemaster and TheLastProject 17:47 TheLastProject Calinou: Moi? 17:47 rubenwardy -NickServ- Nick PilzAdamTheSatan has been removed from your account. 17:48 TheLastProject Good boy 17:48 rubenwardy Hi, rubenwerdy, are we related? 17:48 Calinou it's so hot here :( graphics card at 52Â°C in idle, 42% fan speed 17:48 Taoki TheLastProject: KVIrc supports avatars, thought people meant that :) 17:49 TheLastProject I wonder what you see for all those who do not have stuff not supported by the IRC protocol like avatars, Taoki :P 17:49 TheLastProject AKA: Me 17:49 Calinou Taoki: no, on the forums 17:49 Calinou Taoki even cross-avatars, he has at least 3 different avatars :3 17:49 Taoki TheLastProject: KVIrc has avatar support by using a flag in the user name and DCC or direct linking of images. For those who don't have KVIrc or an avatar set in it, you simply see no avatar :P 17:49 Taoki I wish more IRC clients had avatar support 17:50 TheLastProject Avatar support sounds utterly useless 17:50 Calinou DCC, being more exploited than TheLastProject since 2006Â® 17:50 Taoki TheLastProject: Nah, it's a nice addition 17:50 TheLastProject But that's probably because, for me, it really is useless 17:50 TheLastProject Because avatars in a cli? 17:50 Taoki Calinou: KVIrc avatars can be either set through DCC, or direct links 17:50 Taoki I direct-link mine from imageshack or tinypic 17:51 Taoki In that case the IRC clients opens them like a browser does and shows them in the user list :) 17:51 Calinou inb4 linking to 1GB images 17:51 Taoki Well I haven't ever seen an 1GB image so :P 17:52 khonkhortisan I renamed mesecons_extrawires:crossing_off to mesecons_extrawires:crossover_off and now it's not showing up in the creative inventory 17:52 Taoki 1GB would probably mean a resolution that would cover a few neighbor's houses at full scale :) 17:52 Calinou there is no "full scale" 17:52 Calinou logically 17:53 TheLastProject Calinou: I guess you'll be spending the rest of the day figuring out how KVIrc does that just to annoy those users? 17:53 Taoki Yeah, at 100% scale. But then it would depend on the pixel size of the monitor you're counting in 17:53 Calinou suddenly: full HD 27"s 17:53 * Calinou 's eyes dies of bleeding 17:54 TheLastProject s/dies/die/ 17:54 TheLastProject Eyes is not singular 17:57 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/d0c048b99956eed63e06c1fbcdc3cc7b.jpg 17:58 kaeza Calinou, ^ 18:13 lamefun Lua is actually very nice. Same as JavaScript, but not plagued by tons of warts, sad that it's not what's prescribed :( 18:13 Calinou kaeza: old news 18:14 lamefun Maybe it's possible to get the Global Government prescribe it instead of JavaScript? 18:14 rubenwardy "Global Government?" 18:14 Calinou "praise javascript" disapproves 18:14 Calinou lamefun is just another Praise JavaScript 18:14 Calinou "C++ should only be done for an assignment" --PJS fact 18:15 rubenwardy I like both JS and LUA 18:15 khonkhortisan lua is not a complete language 18:15 rubenwardy prefer JS 18:15 rubenwardy but it is still a language 18:15 TheLastProject Python, yay 18:15 TheLastProject Javascript: http://i.imgur.com/0skrb.jpg 18:16 lamefun Calinou, "C++ should only be done for an assignment" --- because it won't be even possible to use C++ for anything else: only HTML5/JavaScript/CSS will be available for mere mortals, C++ will be only available for use in corporations. 18:16 rubenwardy lol, wtf? 18:16 rubenwardy there are millions of free c++ compilers 18:17 TheLastProject lamefun: Programming in HTML5 and Javascript is a hell 18:17 TheLastProject An absolute hell 18:17 rubenwardy http://craftyjs.com ! 18:17 rubenwardy That is what I use 18:18 lamefun The fate of Assembler --- it's only used by 2 types of people: people working in serious corporations and hacker criminals. That's why the next CPU architecture that comes after x86 and ARM will not have its assembler publicially available. 18:18 rubenwardy and http://www.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/ for debuging and building 18:18 rubenwardy lol 18:18 rubenwardy so? 18:18 rubenwardy I am sure hobbyists will use it 18:19 rubenwardy and lamefun [citation-needed] 18:19 rubenwardy *..fun: 18:20 rubenwardy I am getting the impression that lamefun is some sort of rightwing programmer 18:21 lamefun And free software will be banned too, because the only people who need the freedom and privacy that it offers are dissidents and criminals. 18:22 khonkhortisan that would be impossible to do 18:23 rubenwardy lolo 18:23 lamefun By gradual implementation of Restricted Boot --- will be much harder to get new people into free software because installing it won't be as easy as it is now ---> free software will gradually go extinct and when it reaches a minimum, then it will be banned. 18:23 lamefun On desktops first --- servers will follow. 18:24 rubenwardy lamefun is definitely some sort of rightwing programmer 18:24 rubenwardy and communist 18:24 rubenwardy lamefun: no one gives a shit 18:24 khonkhortisan You don't ban something just before it goes extinct 18:24 rubenwardy it will never be banned 18:25 rubenwardy it will never go extinct 18:25 khonkhortisan The software you write is free software to your coworkers 18:26 thexyz lamefun: why are you so sure? 18:26 lamefun No idea. 18:27 lamefun I just assume the worst. 18:27 thexyz micro$oft's secureboot has to be disableable 18:27 lamefun not on ARM 18:27 thexyz true that 18:27 lamefun and ARM will displace x86 18:27 lamefun and 18:27 thexyz I'm sure it won't 18:27 lamefun the only x86 computers will be super-expensive workstationx 18:28 lamefun normal people will just use tablets because they are more convenient 18:28 rubenwardy typing? 18:28 lamefun attachable keyboard 18:29 lamefun like in Surface 18:29 rubenwardy Surface's keyboard is crap 18:29 lamefun I've read that in Surface it's inconvenient, but other tablets will learn from that and make it better 18:29 rubenwardy Asus Transformer's is better 18:29 lamefun So, we are living in the end times for free software. 18:30 thexyz normal people who only consume 18:30 rubenwardy Lol, my server is "moorcock.freenode.net" 18:30 rubenwardy OpenOffice ftw! 18:30 lamefun So, have last bits of fun and freedom. The end is near. 18:30 thexyz rubenwardy: hmmm? 18:30 rubenwardy When you say "free software" do you mean "open source and freedom" or "free in price" 18:30 thexyz lamefun: how will they stop me from using linux? 18:31 rubenwardy thexyz: more cock 18:31 lamefun won't boot 18:31 rubenwardy Yes it will 18:31 thexyz lamefun: on hardware I already have? 18:31 thexyz rubenwardy: read more 18:31 lamefun no, not without Microsoft keys 18:31 lamefun thexyz, your hardware will break sooner or later 18:31 khonkhortisan that would require a microsoft bios 18:31 rubenwardy bye all 18:31 lamefun and then you'll have to use software for normal people 18:31 rubenwardy Could build my own computer 18:31 khonkhortisan My calculator is programmable 18:31 diemartin http://www.bash.org/?694826 18:32 khonkhortisan I can write my source code on paper and send it through the mail 18:32 thexyz what's the point of writing code if no one is able to compile it? 18:39 khonkhortisan haha tricked by pass-by-reference yet again 18:54 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95287#p95287 18:54 Calinou mmmph 19:02 thexyz you stupid shit 19:03 Calinou hence its old name: "stupidloggingbot" 19:03 thexyz back then it was even more stupid 19:05 thexyz https://github.com/blog/1529-repository-next 19:07 TheLastProject "Repository Next" 19:07 TheLastProject This "next" sounds so stupid 19:07 TheLastProject Why did it become a trend?.. 19:07 Calinou like you 19:08 Calinou inb4 TheLastProject critisizes github 19:08 TheLastProject I'm not a Next, I'm a Last. 19:08 TheLastProject Totally different thing 19:09 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/IwMtqcY.png 19:09 TheLastProject Meh, we'll see how it ends 19:09 TheLastProject I'm not sure if I find the new design better 19:10 TheLastProject But I'll get used to it none-the-less 19:11 * PilzAdam found a pony in Transformers (the movie) 19:11 Taoki yay! 19:12 lamefun Calinou, Red Eclipse, Xonotic, Minetest, what else? 19:13 Calinou PilzAdam, where 19:13 PilzAdam Calinou, the little girl that finds one autobot in the pool 19:13 PilzAdam its in one of the trailers too, IIRC 19:13 PilzAdam it has a pony in her hand 19:13 PilzAdam s/it/she 19:14 Calinou Taoki, TIL the hard way I can taunt in spectator mode, in xonotic, and other players can hear it 19:14 Taoki heh, sounds like a bug 19:14 Calinou I pressed I by mistake on camping rifle FT server, and I asked whether other people heard "okie dokie wokie" :P 19:14 Calinou and people said yes :P 19:14 PilzAdam Calinou, why do you keep telling people that furnaces work in unloaded areas? 19:14 PilzAdam they dont 19:15 Calinou PilzAdam, they do? 19:15 PilzAdam nope 19:15 PilzAdam you are wrong 19:15 Calinou was that removed when furnaces were ported to lua? 19:15 Calinou ;-; 19:16 PilzAdam Taoki, in github, you dont put a space between the username and the @ 19:17 Taoki Where did that happen? 19:17 Taoki Calinou: Haha, nice 19:18 PilzAdam e.g. here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/606#issuecomment-19561885 19:18 PilzAdam but in other places too 19:18 PilzAdam BlockMen, dont feed the troll called mauvebic 19:19 Taoki Oh. Is there a difference if you do? 19:20 PilzAdam yes 19:20 Calinou if you feed mauvebic, he transforms into a combination of xsax, mikeeusa and Calinou 19:20 Calinou catchphrase: "GAY semi-automatic pistol in bed" 19:20 BlockMen btw..why isnt he banned too? he has alos blanked out 19:21 BlockMen PilzAdam, and the difference is? 19:21 PilzAdam github highlights you differently 19:24 PilzAdam 1) rightclick on a YouTube video 2) click on "stats for nerds" 3) .... 4) PROFIT!!! 19:25 Calinou 5) DEBT!!! if you live in PIIGS 19:26 BlockMen it is PIIGCS now :P 19:27 Calinou oh, right 19:27 BlockMen or PIIGCMS 19:27 Calinou we're far from "pigs" now :( 19:27 BlockMen i forgot Malta 19:27 Calinou PIIGSANIEHMZMSPilzAdamS 19:27 Calinou there 19:27 Calinou ^ 2020 19:28 BlockMen 2020? who cares? we wont have an EU then anymore 19:28 * PilzAdam will be famous in 2020 19:28 Calinou PilzAdam president 19:29 BlockMen ^ of france ;P 19:29 Calinou probably 19:29 BlockMen thats ok then 19:29 PilzAdam Ill integrate it into germany 19:30 * BlockMen thinks probably PA isnt the right one... 19:41 PilzAdam BlockMen, simply ignore mauvebic 19:41 BlockMen ok, now i can stop. he has shown everyone how stupid he is 19:42 BlockMen that was my aim :) 19:42 PilzAdam hi NekoGloop 19:45 thexyz BlockMen: where? 19:46 PilzAdam thexyz, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95269#p95269 19:47 BlockMen thexyz, umm...where not? 19:49 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on PilzAdam's head 19:50 thexyz http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3646 19:50 thexyz irony! 19:50 kaeza why rename nodes to blocks? 19:50 thexyz NekoGloop: I mean, where has he "shown everyone how stupid he is" 19:50 kaeza thexyz, lol 19:50 kaeza true 19:50 NekoGloop What... 19:51 Calinou the... 19:51 PilzAdam NekoGloop, he means BlockMen 19:51 kaeza fu... 19:51 Calinou ck. 19:51 thexyz oh, yes 19:52 thexyz typos 19:52 thexyz are everywhere 19:52 NekoGloop inb4 "I confused the two idiots in the channel" 19:52 kaeza :| 19:52 Calinou inafter "I confused the two idiots in this channel" 19:53 * Menche only saw the last few minutes of this conversation... 19:53 NekoGloop kaeza: Because it makes more sense, to the player, that the item description matches what the developers are saying. 19:53 NekoGloop And a "Steel Node" sounds ridiculous. 19:53 PilzAdam Menche, this conversation started a few minutes ago... 19:53 thexyz archiving mods is actually a good idea, but there are two major problems: 1) who will do it; 2) how do we archive repos 19:54 Menche only saw half of it 19:54 thexyz 1) is solved by creating github repo and giving access to some people 19:54 NekoGloop thexyz: 1) someone who doesn't respect licensing *cough*everyone*cough*, 2) a bot. 19:54 PilzAdam Menche, how do you know? 19:54 khonkhortisan I feel like I can't contribute to a mod without it being in a repository 19:54 BlockMen Menche, you call me a troll? seriously? 19:55 Menche telling someone to stay away because he hasn't been around for a while is rude. 19:55 thexyz it's not a very good idea to store binary files in git repo but it's the easiest way to not rely on a single person 19:55 Menche ok, i'll edit that out 19:55 Menche fine 19:55 thexyz NekoGloop: I don't get it, what's the licensing issue? 19:55 BlockMen he said he left, and he said nowhere that he came back. so it was maybe "rude" but not pointless 19:56 * Menche doesn't see where it says that you have to announce your return 19:56 PilzAdam Menche, depends how you leave 19:56 NekoGloop BlockMen: Hello Miranda. 19:56 NekoGloop thexyz: People will still archive something, even if they licensed it as -ND, you see. 19:57 PilzAdam BlockMen, and about the actual topic: You dont really expect anyone to change anything, do you? 19:57 PilzAdam NekoGloop, -ND is not supported in the forum 19:57 NekoGloop PilzAdam: So? 19:57 thexyz NekoGloop: ND doesn't stop me from archiving, it stops me from changing the contents 19:57 BlockMen PilzAdam, no. i thought it could be interesting to discuss this. but it seems that hating makes more fun 19:57 NekoGloop It's still a perfectly valid license. 19:57 thexyz it is 19:58 NekoGloop And this is why i left; nobody respects anything here. 19:59 kaeza NekoGloop, where does archiving a -ND mod violate the terms? 20:00 thexyz NekoGloop: okay 20:00 thexyz any other opinions on mods archive? 20:03 PilzAdam thexyz, we can add an archive to the mod manager 20:04 NekoGloop i don't see the reason to hoard everyone's creations 20:04 NekoGloop If they wanna have their work rid from this hellhole, so be it. 20:05 thexyz NekoGloop: that's not how internet works 20:05 NekoGloop Oh you're right 20:05 PilzAdam NekoGloop, why would they release their work under a free license if they dot want it to be free? 20:05 PilzAdam +n 20:05 thexyz PilzAdam: well, we can (and it'll works this way most likely), but it's still far enough from complete 20:05 NekoGloop The internet is for assholes, virgins, and porn. 20:05 kaeza ._. 20:06 * kaeza is in at least two of those categories 20:06 thexyz NekoGloop: are you porn? 20:06 PilzAdam NekoGloop, add "kittens" and you got it 20:07 NekoGloop thexyz: No, from your description, the internet isn't meant for me. 20:07 thexyz NekoGloop: oh, then leave it now 20:07 mati1 who is RealBadAngel?? 20:07 NekoGloop thexyz: Note: "from your description" 20:07 kaeza he is RealBadAngel 20:08 PilzAdam mati1, what do you expect as an answer? 20:08 thexyz NekoGloop: whatever, I didn't give it any description 20:08 thexyz apart from the fact you cannot remove anything from it, which is quite obvious 20:09 thexyz well, not for government 20:09 mati1 maybe todey was hier 20:09 PilzAdam mati1, german? 20:10 * mati1 ja germany berlin ;) 20:10 Calinou "hier" is "yesterday" in french 20:10 PilzAdam hier is here in german 20:10 Calinou i'm saying that because I read "todey" as "today" :P 20:10 PilzAdam +"""" 20:12 thexyz I actually was about to ask if he's going to leave 20:14 Calinou well, you won 20:14 BlockMen you can win on internet :P 20:14 * PilzAdam wonders whether anyone would care if we ban him... 20:14 BlockMen *cant 20:16 * BlockMen dont like trolls =\ 20:17 Calinou buut... some trolls are funny 20:17 PilzAdam you cant like trolls by definition 20:17 PilzAdam unless they troll someone else 20:17 Calinou hi Menche 20:17 Menche hi 20:18 lamefun can I at least make so one entity moves with the other and if the parent dies, the child entities will die too? 20:18 lamefun I want to simulate at least horiz rotation for turrets this way until bones bug is fixed 20:19 PilzAdam lamefun, search for attachment in lua-api.txt 20:19 PilzAdam you would need to handle the die part in on_step(), though 20:20 * BlockMen leaves 20:20 BlockMen bye everyone 20:34 sfan5 good night 20:41 StrayBytes I don't know which one of you is harassing me via email on behalf of "the community". If that person could realize that 1. He's just plain annoying. 2. I'm not the one that sent out those DoSs, that would be most appreciated. 20:43 kaeza what the f 20:44 sapier who is he/she? 20:44 kaeza posting a long message and leaving? 20:44 kaeza rarkenin 20:44 * Menche is annoyed when people randomly take on different usernames 20:44 * kaeza too 20:45 sapier there are much more severe things to be annoyed about ;-) 20:46 kaeza yeah, like winning the Microsoft National Lottery via email 20:47 sapier does anyone want checkboxes textlists and shadowboxes as formspec elements? ;-) 20:47 kaeza I won Â£250000 ^_^ 20:47 kaeza sapier, f yeah 20:48 kaeza ...shadowboxes? 20:48 sapier just plain colored boxes that can be used as backgrounds 20:48 kaeza arbitrary colors? 20:48 sapier in theory yes in practice it's limited to a hand full standard colors 20:49 kaeza could be useful anyway 20:49 sapier atm colors are set by using a 3 character color identifier 20:49 sapier e.g. BLK for black 20:50 sapier it's easy to add additional color keys 20:50 sapier help me get formspec mainmenu merged and all those features will be added same time ;-) 21:44 VanessaE hi all 21:44 VanessaE I see I missed a shitstorm while I was out. 21:44 Uberi what happened? 21:45 VanessaE Uberi: nekogloop and blockmen both showed up and all hell broke loose I guess :) 21:45 kaeza hey V 21:45 VanessaE (better to look at the log) 21:45 kaeza hey Uberi 21:45 Uberi o/ 21:45 kaeza \o 21:45 Uberi VanessaE: I'd really rather not, now that you describe it 21:46 kaeza VanessaE, the usual stuff: changing everything for no reason 21:46 kaeza (BlockMen) 21:46 VanessaE kaeza: and licensing arguments. 21:47 kaeza that too :) 21:51 STHGOM me go too 22:02 arsdragonfly hmmm ,seems every player times out on join on my server 22:03 VanessaE arsdragonfly: because their clients crash. 22:03 VanessaE it's a known bug, happens to everyone 22:03 arsdragonfly i just installed some mods and I can enter it 22:03 VanessaE they start to receive the media stream, and somewhere in the middle, the client crashes. 22:04 VanessaE it's nothing you did. 22:05 arsdragonfly ... any workaround or fixes? 22:05 VanessaE not that I know of. 22:05 kaeza it's only when new media is involved 22:05 VanessaE kaeza: not always, but usually so. 22:05 kaeza if the media is already cached nothing happens 22:06 arsdragonfly huh 22:06 VanessaE I'm unclear if there's a fix for this or not 22:06 arsdragonfly it used to be a vanilla one 22:06 VanessaE it doesn't matter if you run any mods, or what mods you run, as the server still has to send some media. 22:07 VanessaE (and of course the "vanilla" content is itself a collection of mods) 22:07 arsdragonfly well, nothing happened at that time 22:08 arsdragonfly When I wake up and cat nohup.out | grep players 22:08 arsdragonfly I see nearly ALL join messages followed by a timeout one 22:09 arsdragonfly that's terrible... 22:10 Uberi maybe you have a bad connection? 22:10 arsdragonfly yes I do 22:10 arsdragonfly !server ping:most 22:10 MinetestBot arsdragonfly: Arsdragonfly's server | arsenalmp.no-ip.org | Clients: 0/100, 4 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.453 22:10 Uberi ah, then you can provide a cache folder download maybe 22:10 Uberi is that ping in seconds? 22:10 arsdragonfly remote media server? 22:10 PilzAdam its in ping-units 22:11 Uberi stupid imperial system 22:11 PilzAdam alternatively Â°ping 22:11 Uberi I bet its conversion factor is like 1 ping-unit = 2.16328723 seconds 22:11 Uberi arsdragonfly: that might work too, I dunno 22:12 arsdragonfly as long as my server is up, the server with the most ping is mine :-( 22:12 Uberi is that a challenge? 22:12 * Uberi gets out Slowloris 22:13 arsdragonfly how? simply copy everything in mods/foo/textures/ into one folder? 22:13 arsdragonfly lol 22:13 TheLastProject Guys? Why was there nothing in the changelog about losing all your items when you die? :( 22:13 Uberi arsdragonfly: join your own server 22:13 VanessaE TheLastProject: bones mod. 22:13 TheLastProject I thought suicide to get back to my home was a sane choice... 22:13 TheLastProject It used to be :( 22:13 khonkhortisan bones mod 22:13 Uberi TheLastProject: bones 22:13 VanessaE khonkhortisan: ninja'd :) 22:13 Uberi go back to where you died 22:13 khonkhortisan Uberi, too 22:13 Uberi ya 22:13 TheLastProject Huh, what? 22:14 TheLastProject No, I don't want mods =/ 22:14 Uberi TheLastProject: go back to where you died 22:14 khonkhortisan black thing with a skull on it 22:14 khonkhortisan remove bones mod then 22:14 TheLastProject I don't remember where I died... 22:14 Uberi TheLastProject: no, it's a default mod 22:14 TheLastProject I got lost... 22:14 arsdragonfly I'm still in my bed and don't feel like getting up 22:14 Uberi like, it comes with Minetest 22:14 VanessaE TheLastProject: the bones mod comes as part of minetest_game in 0.4.7 and up. 22:14 arsdragonfly my server is on my phone 22:14 TheLastProject Ah, and that makes me lose all my stuff? 22:14 Uberi yep 22:14 TheLastProject Dammit... 22:14 Uberi TheLastProject: no big deal, we can help you find it if you post your debug.txt 22:14 VanessaE you have to find your bones, get your stuff back, and then go uninstall the mod. 22:14 TheLastProject I wish this was in the changelog :( 22:15 TheLastProject Is the debug.txt on the server? 22:15 Uberi debug.txt is in your bin folder 22:15 TheLastProject Because this is not my server 22:15 Uberi oh yeah then you're outta luck 22:15 VanessaE "* Drop common mods system, Survival and Build game; minetest_game includes all common mods and the bones mod from Survival now (PilzAdam) http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6034" 22:15 VanessaE ^^^ changelog. 22:15 arsdragonfly btw it's hard for your server to be even slower 22:15 Uberi what if I run it on an abacus 22:15 arsdragonfly cuz i run debian on android 22:16 arsdragonfly uh that doesn't even work I think :-/ 22:16 VanessaE Uberi: maybe he runs his on sand and stones, http://xkcd.com/505/ 22:16 TheLastProject VanessaE: I don't see anything about losing items there =/ 22:16 VanessaE TheLastProject: that's what the bones mod does. Thought everyone knew that? 22:16 khonkhortisan Quoth the desert, 505. 22:17 Uberi TheLastProject: that's because you don't lose your items 22:17 Uberi they still exist 22:17 Uberi but not on your person 22:17 TheLastProject VanessaE: I do not because I don't constantly check everything. I just read the changelog and assumed to be up-to-date 22:17 Uberi VanessaE: that's one of my all-time favourites 22:17 TheLastProject Uberi: That's what I call "losing". I at very least would've liked to know that BEFORE I jumped off the cliff :P 22:17 VanessaE TheLastProject: fair enough - we know not to assume anything about this game now, don't we? ;) 22:18 TheLastProject VanessaE: What is the point of a changelog if it doesn't keep me up-to-date, though? =/ 22:18 TheLastProject Then again, it depends on what you see as important changes 22:18 TheLastProject I guess it is clear I consider this one important :P 22:18 VanessaE TheLastProject: well in theory the changelog needs to say what was added, removed, or moved, but not necessarily to explain such things. 22:18 Uberi TheLastProject: what isn't clear about the change? 22:18 Uberi it says pretty obviously that the bones mod was added, after all 22:18 kaeza http://www.bash.org/?39183 22:19 Uberi and there's a link to a forum topic where the bones mod is described as waylaying your items upon death 22:19 TheLastProject Uberi: If the bones mod literally only does that, it would've been useful to mention it :P 22:20 VanessaE bbl 22:20 TheLastProject I mean, if it's a HUGE list of changes then of course it makes little sense to list it all 22:20 TheLastProject But yeah 22:20 TheLastProject Oh well :P 22:20 Uberi TheLastProject: yeah that's pretty much all bones does 22:20 * TheLastProject goes to find his albums back 22:20 khonkhortisan Still working on a crossover for mesecons, currently 309 additions, 37 deletions (including print statements) 22:21 Uberi to add an incentive not to die in survival mode 22:21 Uberi khonkhortisan: great to hear it, I can't wait to see that 22:21 TheLastProject I understand the reasoning, really 22:21 TheLastProject I just wish I knew it BEFORE I jumped off the cliff, heh 22:22 Uberi ah well 22:22 TheLastProject I wonder which of the many mountains I jumped off >.< 22:22 Uberi any landmarks? 22:22 Uberi retrace your steps perhaps? 22:23 TheLastProject I got lost, which is why I jumped off, heh 22:23 TheLastProject So now I need to get lost in the same way 22:23 TheLastProject Somehow 22:23 TheLastProject And no, no landmarks 22:23 TheLastProject I just know I was on a high mountain 22:23 TheLastProject But it's FILLED with that 22:23 Uberi better start looking in valleys then 22:24 TheLastProject Hmm, yeah 22:24 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Decoration: Change divlen to sidelen 56093b6614 2013-06-17T15:23:31-07:00 http://git.io/WQyZGw 22:25 Uberi and in the future, if you get lost, the F5 coordinates are real useful 22:25 khonkhortisan I leave those coordinates on while I play 22:26 TheLastProject Well, useful tip, khonkhortisan 22:27 Frogphone Guys, do you think I'm allergic to women? My dick keeps swelling up... 22:27 TheLastProject My stuff won't disappear after a certain time limit, will it? 22:27 khonkhortisan do you think we don't know you already know the answer? 22:28 kaeza TheLastProject, nope 22:28 TheLastProject Good 22:28 kaeza in multiplayer, you have 2 hrs IIRC to pick up your stuff 22:29 kaeza after that, the bones become old and anyone can pick them up 22:30 TheLastProject Yay, found it 22:30 Uberi really? nice 22:31 TheLastProject I've never seen a box of bones before, but oh well :P 22:32 frogcrush TheLastProject: I have, and its creepy 22:32 TheLastProject Now I'm lost again. Ugh, my lack of sense of orientation sucks! >.< 22:32 khonkhortisan With a blocky world, there's only eight directions 22:32 khonkhortisan 12Â½% chance of going the right way 22:39 arsdragonfly khonkhortisan ,that's 1/8 for every step 22:40 Uberi ignoring duplicates, of course 22:40 arsdragonfly and (1/8)^n for n steps, so chances are that you'll get lost :-P 22:41 Uberi only (1/8)^n unique paths, there are only (8/sqrt(2))^2*n paths with unique locations 22:42 Uberi sorry, I meant 4*n/sqrt(2) 22:43 Exio wat 22:44 Uberi 1/sqrt(2) is the ratio of walk length diagonal to the area of the square formed from the origin to the destination 22:45 Uberi since there are 4 such squares, multiply by 4 and then the length of the diagonal 22:46 Uberi assuming we're measuring with manhattan distance 22:47 ch98 is there any way to force xcode to build for ppc and not intel? 22:47 PilzAdam ch98, you asked this yesterday and got an answer 22:48 ch98 oh I did? 22:48 khonkhortisan I remember you asking, but I don't remember an answer 22:48 ch98 checking logs 22:49 PilzAdam http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-06-16#i_3145516 22:50 PilzAdam you asked several times before that, but thats the one where you got an answer 22:51 ch98 oh that. ppc never stays ppc and just went back to i368. I was asking how to force it to stay ppc? 22:52 Uberi set your env vars system-wide, maybe 22:52 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Decoration, Ore: Resolve node names on Mapgen init 0b20768a24 2013-06-17T15:51:29-07:00 http://git.io/8Dzk-A 22:52 Uberi export something something 22:54 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest_game: Generate clay with register_ore() b0ab4fb4ab 2013-06-17T17:51:26-07:00 http://git.io/iLaQHQ 23:00 Uberi whoa this new GitHub interface is awesome 23:00 khonkhortisan yes it is 23:00 Uberi voidlord, is that you? 23:04 khonkhortisan Is there a secret option I can set to make it remember my password? 23:04 Exio yes, hacking the code and implementing it in a secure way! 23:05 Exio (outside that, i guess doing that will be way easier with the luaformspec-menu) 23:05 khonkhortisan I don't care if it's secure, I just don't want to type it in :) 23:18 MinetestBot GIT: EXio4 commited to minetest/minetest: Remove useless recalculation of bounding box (mapblock_mesh) 816ffa99ba 2013-06-17T16:11:46-07:00 http://git.io/YsGUuA 23:23 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Fix calculation of selected item (for not drawing it) in formspec c8ed61b281 2013-06-17T16:18:54-07:00 http://git.io/m9T7FQ 23:34 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Formspec: Don't perform black magic if selected item fits the guess d74c377337 2013-06-17T16:32:11-07:00 http://git.io/KySkdA 23:46 khonkhortisan Not suprisingly, a menger _sponge_ is very good at catching item drops. 23:53 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Show number of objects in client environment in profiler (F6) 261f559339 2013-06-17T16:49:06-07:00 http://git.io/lojDAg