| Time |
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| 00:01 |
Jordach |
i just potted the fuckin 8ball |
| 00:03 |
PilzAdam |
http://i.minus.com/iBzvb2JSpQNRM.gif |
| 00:05 |
Kacey |
heh |
| 00:06 |
Jordach |
lol |
| 00:06 |
Jordach |
Kacey, whos this ninja bloke |
| 00:06 |
Kacey |
a person i know |
| 00:08 |
* Jordach |
grabs the woodchipper |
| 00:10 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 00:23 |
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| 00:48 |
Jordach |
hey OldCoder |
| 00:48 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, Hi |
| 00:52 |
ch98 |
Nothing including google says about an error i got |
| 00:53 |
ch98 |
can someone help me on it? |
| 00:58 |
ch98 |
error says "no match for 'opertor!=' in 'i != std::list<_Tp, _Alloc>::rend() [with _TP = RollbackAction, _Alloc = std::<RollbackAction>]()' |
| 00:59 |
* Jordach |
hears ShadowBot's paste detector ticking like a bomb |
| 01:01 |
ch98 |
I did not paste it |
| 01:02 |
Exio |
[20:51:34] <PilzAdam> maybe try to change the if(a!=b) into if(!(a==b)) if != is not defined |
| 01:03 |
Jordach |
thats pretty genius |
| 01:04 |
ch98 |
thank you. I will try that |
| 01:05 |
ch98 |
whatever that does |
| 01:06 |
Exio |
instead of a not equal b |
| 01:06 |
Exio |
not (a equal b) |
| 01:07 |
ch98 |
original code causing reeoe is..... for(std::list<RollbackAction>::const_reverse_iterator i = m_action_latest_buffer.rbegin(); i != m_action_latest_buffer.rend(); i++) |
| 01:07 |
ch98 |
I hope drag and drop is not pasting |
| 01:11 |
Jordach |
ch98, thats still pasting |
| 01:11 |
Jordach |
any large amount of text typed, moved or pasted is still pasted |
| 01:11 |
ch98 |
well, bot didn't seem to detect it |
| 01:12 |
Jordach |
ch98, give it around 1min between pastes |
| 01:12 |
Jordach |
ShadowBot fails there |
| 01:13 |
ch98 |
so i should seperate large sentences to few lines |
| 01:14 |
Jordach |
break them up |
| 01:14 |
Jordach |
to about 20 words tops over 20 seconds |
| 01:14 |
Jordach |
if youre going by 60wpm |
| 01:14 |
Jordach |
i can average 120wpm |
| 01:15 |
ch98 |
thank you. I will be away for few hours |
| 01:16 |
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| 01:17 |
xiong |
Should the client be trying to eat 6 GB of memory in multiplayer? |
| 01:17 |
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| 01:22 |
khonkhortisan |
The internet is back on, with no excuse as to its absence. |
| 01:24 |
khonkhortisan |
The log didn't record my timeout. How long was I gone? |
| 03:01 |
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| 03:10 |
SmugLeaf |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNvYk9oWYfw |
| 03:10 |
SmugLeaf |
someone needs to "port" this |
| 03:15 |
* ShadowNinja |
would like another user with +Ff |
| 03:16 |
ShadowNinja |
(+f doesn't quite do it for some things) |
| 03:16 |
Exio |
doens't the|xyz have +f? |
| 03:16 |
Exio |
doesn't* |
| 03:16 |
Exio |
for what would an "op" need +F? |
| 03:17 |
Exio |
SmugLeaf: that mod looks cool |
| 03:18 |
ShadowNinja |
Exio: No, only in -dev. I forget what flag I wanted that needed it. |
| 03:18 |
ShadowNinja |
* wanted to set |
| 03:18 |
Exio |
the only "difference" fwith +F is that "he" can set up all the flags even if he doesn't have it |
| 03:18 |
Exio |
(and the drop command, but that doesn't count) |
| 03:33 |
ch98 |
is it possible to have someone debug mods made in this computer over irc? |
| 03:34 |
ch98 |
becaus it is impossible to run minetest here |
| 03:50 |
khonkhortisan |
that would have to be a client mod at that speed, no? |
| 03:53 |
ch98 |
what do you mean? |
| 03:54 |
ch98 |
dinner |
| 04:02 |
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| 04:09 |
OnceOver |
what is a consession? |
| 04:09 |
khonkhortisan |
a stand |
| 04:10 |
OnceOver |
why would i need a concession to place a block or node? |
| 04:10 |
khonkhortisan |
? |
| 04:10 |
OnceOver |
on sfans server |
| 04:10 |
khonkhortisan |
A grant of a tract of land made by a government or other controlling authority in return for stipulated services or a promise that the land will be used for a specific purpose. |
| 04:11 |
OnceOver |
hmm |
| 04:11 |
OnceOver |
so he hates me? |
| 04:11 |
khonkhortisan |
If all the land is pre-owned, I wouldn't build there. |
| 04:11 |
OnceOver |
lol |
| 04:11 |
OnceOver |
i made a ton of stuff there |
| 04:11 |
OnceOver |
as of today i need a concession |
| 04:12 |
khonkhortisan |
it's possible the mod was newly added |
| 04:12 |
OnceOver |
yes |
| 04:12 |
OnceOver |
what mod you think? |
| 04:13 |
OnceOver |
you must be smart |
| 04:13 |
OnceOver |
i like you |
| 04:13 |
khonkhortisan |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3881 |
| 04:14 |
OnceOver |
node_ownership |
| 04:14 |
OnceOver |
yep i thought that was new |
| 04:14 |
OnceOver |
i /mods and it was all i seen that looked new |
| 04:14 |
khonkhortisan |
I'd like to be able to fix a mistake in someone's owned area, then have my change go away until they accept it |
| 04:14 |
OnceOver |
do you have a server? |
| 04:15 |
khonkhortisan |
no, but I could make one locally and have it forwarded |
| 04:15 |
OnceOver |
have you done that before? |
| 04:16 |
khonkhortisan |
the in-client server list is a little new, so no. |
| 04:16 |
OnceOver |
i tried everything i could to make a server and have friends join but didnt happen |
| 04:17 |
OnceOver |
my conclusion i use a phones hot spot so i could not open ports |
| 04:17 |
khonkhortisan |
You must have the server running, not have your computer's firewall block that destination port UDP/TCP, and have your router forward anything on that port to your computer (instead of anywhere else on the lan) |
| 04:17 |
khonkhortisan |
oh |
| 04:17 |
OnceOver |
i even tried a few vpn like remobo and such none worked for me |
| 04:18 |
OnceOver |
even a regular vpn on my computer with there ip iinternets name and pass |
| 04:18 |
OnceOver |
internets name is that ssid whats that stand for you know? |
| 04:19 |
OnceOver |
i think id is identification |
| 04:20 |
khonkhortisan |
you shouldn't need a local vpn to host a server |
| 04:21 |
OnceOver |
i figured it was because of my ports i couldnt truly host |
| 04:21 |
OnceOver |
so i went in another direction |
| 04:22 |
OnceOver |
have them on my or me on there private connections seems like a loop hole to me so i tried it |
| 04:22 |
khonkhortisan |
you could always try a port scan http://www.whatsmyip.org/port-scanner/ |
| 04:22 |
OnceOver |
yea ports closed i checked |
| 04:23 |
khonkhortisan |
it'll also say closed if there's nothing running on the port |
| 04:23 |
OnceOver |
wouldnt the internet be running on the ports? |
| 04:24 |
khonkhortisan |
? |
| 04:24 |
OnceOver |
666Timeout (Blocked)Doom 2302Timeout (Blocked)Halo 3453Timeout (Blocked)Myth 3724Timeout (Blocked)World of Warcraft 4000Timeout (Blocked)Diablo 5154Timeout (Blocked)BZFlag 6112Timeout (Blocked)Battle.net 6113Timeout (Blocked)Battle.net 6114Timeout (Blocked)Battle.net 6115Timeout (Blocked)Battle.net 6116Timeout (Blocked)Battle.net 6117Timeout (Blocked)Battle.net 6118Timeout (Blocked)Battle.net 6119Timeout |
| 04:24 |
khonkhortisan |
heh |
| 04:24 |
OnceOver |
that is what the test said on that port check |
| 04:25 |
khonkhortisan |
I just noticed I have email blocked |
| 04:26 |
OnceOver |
my guess is that the ports are nicely bricked up |
| 04:26 |
OnceOver |
sometimes its good to block email |
| 04:26 |
OnceOver |
its annoying lol til you wanna check it |
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| 04:28 |
OnceOver |
so you work for comcast or somthing? |
| 04:29 |
OnceOver |
did you leave me? |
| 04:35 |
OnceOver |
if you are all on minetest irc then why is there only 6 ppl on all the servers combined? |
| 04:36 |
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| 04:37 |
OnceOver |
hello ch98 |
| 04:37 |
ShadowNinja |
OnceOver: We are not all active. |
| 04:37 |
ShadowNinja |
There is sometimes dozens on the servers. |
| 04:37 |
ch98 |
hello |
| 04:38 |
ShadowNinja |
*are |
| 04:38 |
OnceOver |
no need to correct grammer |
| 04:38 |
OnceOver |
we all text chat these days which rips apart our grammer |
| 04:38 |
OnceOver |
so |
| 04:39 |
OnceOver |
whats the best server? |
| 04:39 |
ShadowNinja |
All the same, I prefer to use correct grammar. |
| 04:39 |
ShadowNinja |
OnceOver: Mine. :-) |
| 04:39 |
OnceOver |
i am challenged when it comes to grammer |
| 04:39 |
ShadowNinja |
Survival or creative? |
| 04:39 |
OnceOver |
what is your server? |
| 04:40 |
ShadowNinja |
shadowninja.minetest.net |
| 04:40 |
OnceOver |
what you mean survival or creative? |
| 04:40 |
OnceOver |
are you changing it ? |
| 04:40 |
ShadowNinja |
In creative you get infinite stuff, my server is in creative mode. |
| 04:41 |
ShadowNinja |
Some people prefer "survival". |
| 04:41 |
OnceOver |
then why you say survival or? |
| 04:42 |
ShadowNinja |
Because I would recommand a different server if you wanted survival. |
| 04:42 |
OnceOver |
lol which is? |
| 04:42 |
ShadowNinja |
? |
| 04:42 |
OnceOver |
what would you recommand |
| 04:42 |
OnceOver |
i dont think recommand sounds right lol |
| 04:43 |
OnceOver |
What survival server would you recommend to otheres? |
| 04:44 |
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| 04:44 |
ShadowNinja |
Hmmm, maybe redcrab's server, although is is running an old version of minetest. That is the popular server. |
| 04:45 |
ShadowNinja |
(At least last I checked) |
| 04:45 |
OnceOver |
i have heard that one a few times |
| 04:45 |
OnceOver |
what can you do on your server? you cant build can you? |
| 04:45 |
ShadowNinja |
I need to give you build privs, one sec... |
| 04:46 |
OnceOver |
i see |
| 04:46 |
OnceOver |
do you get on your server? |
| 04:47 |
ShadowNinja |
No, IRC mod. |
| 04:47 |
ShadowNinja |
You should have it now. |
| 04:47 |
OnceOver |
well that doesnt help me make friends |
| 04:47 |
ShadowNinja |
? |
| 04:48 |
* VanessaE |
might recommend her own server to build on... :) |
| 04:48 |
OnceOver |
i like playing multiplayer for the building with friends aspect of it |
| 04:48 |
OnceOver |
i have built on vanesses server time to time she is a nice lady |
| 04:49 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 04:50 |
OnceOver |
but i already know that i can get bored on all servers so as long as a ration time on each server |
| 04:50 |
OnceOver |
i can go through them all and never get bored yay |
| 04:50 |
OnceOver |
i love a few servers to death and did all the work to actually email em and stuff to join hint hint vanessae |
| 04:51 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 04:51 |
OnceOver |
i had a heck of a time trying to figure out copper wires or all wires to be exact lol |
| 04:52 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 04:52 |
OnceOver |
idk how to use wires |
| 04:52 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: Minetest is very bad security-wise. you might want to lower your max player count a bit. |
| 04:53 |
VanessaE |
how? |
| 04:53 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: minetest.conf.example max_players or something like that. |
| 04:53 |
VanessaE |
I'll check into it then |
| 04:54 |
OnceOver |
15 would be good |
| 04:54 |
OnceOver |
any more than that is awful in my opinion |
| 04:54 |
VanessaE |
well it's not like my server ever sees any more than about 5 people at once anyway |
| 04:54 |
VanessaE |
# Maximum number of players connected simultaneously |
| 04:54 |
VanessaE |
#max_users = 100 |
| 04:54 |
OnceOver |
i need a map download |
| 04:55 |
OnceOver |
do you got one vanessae? |
| 04:55 |
VanessaE |
yes, but it's not up-to-date |
| 04:55 |
VanessaE |
I'll update it tonight |
| 04:56 |
VanessaE |
er, well soon :) |
| 04:56 |
OnceOver |
lol |
| 04:56 |
OnceOver |
i can use the one you got i dont mind if it lags changing a few node when i walk close |
| 04:56 |
VanessaE |
well there's someone building on the server at the moment. When he signs off, I'll upload the latest map files. |
| 04:57 |
OnceOver |
lol |
| 04:57 |
OnceOver |
who is building? |
| 04:57 |
VanessaE |
MichaelEh is working on his space station |
| 04:57 |
OnceOver |
who was the guy who made the castle? |
| 04:58 |
OnceOver |
i hung out with him on your server |
| 04:58 |
khonkhortisan |
Shall I sign on and gum up the works? |
| 04:58 |
khonkhortisan |
:P |
| 04:58 |
VanessaE |
castle? |
| 04:58 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: you're already gumming up the works with that damn menger sponge :) |
| 04:58 |
OnceOver |
the small castle or what ever its called i forget |
| 04:58 |
khonkhortisan |
I put ghoststone around it for framerate |
| 04:58 |
VanessaE |
small castle....hm.... |
| 04:58 |
OnceOver |
what is ghost stone? |
| 04:58 |
VanessaE |
there are several castles around the server |
| 04:59 |
VanessaE |
ghoststone is an object that disappears when a mesecons signal is applied |
| 04:59 |
khonkhortisan |
it's something from the mesecons mod. Apply power to it, and it temporarily turns air-like. |
| 04:59 |
VanessaE |
(and reappears when the signal is withdrawn) |
| 04:59 |
khonkhortisan |
Then it comes back whe^ |
| 04:59 |
OnceOver |
sweet |
| 04:59 |
OnceOver |
that sounds cool |
| 04:59 |
khonkhortisan |
it also transmits power to itself, so you don't need a yellow wall of wires behind it |
| 05:00 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: oh, jeija made them conductive? |
| 05:00 |
OnceOver |
is there anything that can transmit power from genorators to what you need the power to go to ? |
| 05:00 |
OnceOver |
with out wires i mean |
| 05:00 |
khonkhortisan |
I might've done that. |
| 05:01 |
VanessaE |
ah |
| 05:01 |
VanessaE |
OnceOver: not by default, no |
| 05:01 |
khonkhortisan |
there's not much in the way of wireless power |
| 05:01 |
khonkhortisan |
There's wireless digilines, but I don't know where to get them |
| 05:01 |
VanessaE |
mesecons has a wireless extension you can download but it is considered unstable |
| 05:01 |
kaeza |
bleh https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/mt-config.png |
| 05:01 |
OnceOver |
boo |
| 05:01 |
OnceOver |
kaeza that sounds like a formilial name |
| 05:01 |
VanessaE |
also, new linux build: efc75db7[...] |
| 05:02 |
OnceOver |
have i met you kaeza? |
| 05:02 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: nice |
| 05:02 |
kaeza |
OnceOver, depends |
| 05:02 |
kaeza |
maybe |
| 05:02 |
OnceOver |
sounds good to me |
| 05:02 |
kaeza |
I mostly lurk Memebase and the TWHL forums |
| 05:03 |
khonkhortisan |
Comcast is my internet company, and my internet went down today without explanation. |
| 05:03 |
kaeza |
(apart from MT forums that is) |
| 05:03 |
OnceOver |
your internet company or the internet at ur house? |
| 05:04 |
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| 05:04 |
OnceOver |
it owould be nice if sfan ever read his emails |
| 05:04 |
khonkhortisan |
the latter. |
| 05:05 |
kaeza |
eh... wat |
| 05:05 |
khonkhortisan |
I read sfan as stefan instead of suh' fan |
| 05:05 |
khonkhortisan |
I get my internet through comcast but with no affiliation to them. |
| 05:05 |
OnceOver |
on sfan5s server he added node possesion so noone was on it today |
| 05:06 |
khonkhortisan |
it's really easy for ownership to get in your way |
| 05:06 |
OnceOver |
all my friends cant built anyone know of a better way to talk to him other than youtube chat |
| 05:06 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, save & load work. I just need to add support to the other options and to run MT with the specific conf |
| 05:07 |
VanessaE |
cool |
| 05:07 |
kaeza |
hopefully will make it easier to configure MT until it is implemented in core |
| 05:07 |
khonkhortisan |
youtube chat? |
| 05:07 |
VanessaE |
maybe you and RealBadAngel can work together on the mod configuration system were were thinking of also |
| 05:08 |
kaeza |
that would be cool |
| 05:08 |
VanessaE |
we were* |
| 05:08 |
VanessaE |
the two seem like they'd go well together |
| 05:08 |
khonkhortisan |
I feel like breaking into my modem, but I can't think of a good reason to do so. |
| 05:08 |
OnceOver |
as for top admin sfan5 and vanessae are pretty generous with help |
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| 05:11 |
OnceOver |
someday i will ask for some help on these dang wires vanesse |
| 05:11 |
OnceOver |
whenever i get a chance that is |
| 05:11 |
khonkhortisan |
I can probably help you with those |
| 05:11 |
OnceOver |
i doubt it i feel like i am dumb when i try to get them to work |
| 05:12 |
khonkhortisan |
You can make them so complicated you create bugs in them |
| 05:13 |
OnceOver |
in that case i blame it on you |
| 05:13 |
khonkhortisan |
:) |
| 05:13 |
OnceOver |
wish i could add friends on this chat |
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| 05:14 |
OnceOver |
i would add khonkhortisan he is seemly very smart |
| 05:14 |
OnceOver |
i would add kaeza i feel like i played a game with him at one point |
| 05:14 |
OnceOver |
i would add vanessae cause she seems very nice |
| 05:14 |
kaeza |
hm? |
| 05:14 |
ShadowNinja |
OnceOver: Depending on your client you can. |
| 05:15 |
khonkhortisan |
I think pidgin might, but xchat doesn't |
| 05:15 |
kaeza |
OnceOver, do you play FPSs? |
| 05:15 |
OnceOver |
and i wouldnt leave you out shadowninja for the quick ninja like reflexes of server help |
| 05:15 |
ShadowNinja |
LOL. |
| 05:16 |
OnceOver |
whats is a frame per seconds s? |
| 05:16 |
khonkhortisan |
first person shooters |
| 05:16 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 05:16 |
ch98 |
is it ok to stay on irc without me in front of computer? |
| 05:16 |
khonkhortisan |
YES |
| 05:16 |
VanessaE |
ch98: many people do this. |
| 05:16 |
ch98 |
ok |
| 05:16 |
OnceOver |
or what you mean by FPSs |
| 05:16 |
kaeza |
[02:16:06] <khonkhortisan> first person shooters |
| 05:16 |
OnceOver |
i see |
| 05:16 |
khonkhortisan |
FPS can mean "frames per second" or "first person shooter". When there's an "s" on the end, it's the latter. |
| 05:17 |
kaeza |
so I guess nope |
| 05:17 |
khonkhortisan |
But you never want SPF |
| 05:17 |
OnceOver |
you would be surprized how many games i played |
| 05:17 |
khonkhortisan |
(seconds per frame) |
| 05:17 |
OnceOver |
however i prefer spellbound games |
| 05:17 |
kaeza |
khonkhortisan, I used to get that on Puppy |
| 05:18 |
kaeza |
(no opengl support for my card :/) |
| 05:18 |
OnceOver |
call of duty is an exception |
| 05:18 |
kaeza |
lol CoD |
| 05:18 |
kaeza |
I mean classics |
| 05:18 |
kaeza |
Doom, Quake, Wolfenstein, ... |
| 05:19 |
kaeza |
evel HL/CS/DoD |
| 05:19 |
kaeza |
even* |
| 05:19 |
OnceOver |
i have played call of duty I and II i also like modern warfare 3 i think |
| 05:19 |
khonkhortisan |
light-bot, orthorobot, phlipple. |
| 05:19 |
kaeza |
khonkhortisan, orthorobot is awesome |
| 05:19 |
khonkhortisan |
have you tried phlipple? |
| 05:19 |
kaeza |
not yet |
| 05:19 |
khonkhortisan |
you should |
| 05:20 |
kaeza |
just a handful of Löve games |
| 05:20 |
kaeza |
(not tetris, not pacman, and orthorobot) |
| 05:20 |
OnceOver |
those all sound old school games |
| 05:20 |
khonkhortisan |
respect the umlaut |
| 05:21 |
OnceOver |
i also played roblox for a long time |
| 05:21 |
khonkhortisan |
the first two have had physics added to them |
| 05:21 |
khonkhortisan |
I can't get roblox to install no matter what I do - native, wine, xp vm, 7 vm |
| 05:22 |
kaeza |
OnceOver, http://stabyourself.net/notpacman/ |
| 05:22 |
OnceOver |
i have to use mc donalds internet to download roblox it seems like the download is timed cause it times out |
| 05:23 |
OnceOver |
http://dan-ball.jp/en/javagame/ranger/ |
| 05:24 |
khonkhortisan |
unsigned app! oh no! I'll get haxx38 C036U7ER! |
| 05:24 |
OnceOver |
roblox is pretty cool if only it was harder to make your own game so that someone would play mine |
| 05:25 |
khonkhortisan |
it would be cool if it ran on something other than mac/windows, or ran on a fresh install of windows. |
| 05:25 |
sfan5 |
hi |
| 05:25 |
khonkhortisan |
hello, someone is looking for you. |
| 05:25 |
sfan5 |
hi OnceOver |
| 05:25 |
OnceOver |
hey sfan |
| 05:26 |
OnceOver |
i cant build on your server |
| 05:26 |
OnceOver |
concessiion is needed |
| 05:26 |
sfan5 |
did you try to build in spawn? |
| 05:26 |
OnceOver |
lol i cant go to spawn |
| 05:26 |
OnceOver |
it says have admin make a spawn |
| 05:27 |
khonkhortisan |
I wonder if I could make a 3d-4d game in the style of the 2d-3d orthorobot game |
| 05:27 |
OnceOver |
if you are refering to where i was when i first got on lol i was n the nether and i lag there |
| 05:27 |
sfan5 |
hm |
| 05:27 |
khonkhortisan |
there's a nether? |
| 05:28 |
OnceOver |
yes there is nether in sfans server |
| 05:28 |
OnceOver |
-5000 is his nether |
| 05:36 |
sfan5 |
OnceOver: https://github.com/codeandfix/node_ownership |
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OnceOver |
what is that forcefield mod called? |
| 05:41 |
VanessaE |
technic has that. |
| 05:41 |
ShadowNinja |
OnceOver: Forcefield? There are at least two, I wrote the technic one. |
| 05:41 |
OnceOver |
how do they work? |
| 05:42 |
OnceOver |
i know they take energy to run |
| 05:42 |
OnceOver |
but do they keep out griefers and such? |
| 05:42 |
VanessaE |
I'm not sure how to use them |
| 05:42 |
OnceOver |
is there a way a player can let ppl they want in it? |
| 05:43 |
ShadowNinja |
OnceOver: None of them are fool-proof. |
| 05:43 |
OnceOver |
i would like bricks and doors that we can add ppls names to them so that only them ppl can touch or open them |
| 05:43 |
VanessaE |
no idea on that either |
| 05:43 |
ShadowNinja |
If you want you can fly and noclip. |
| 05:44 |
OnceOver |
thanks shadow |
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khonkhortisan |
Multiple-owner steel doors? That would be nice. |
| 05:49 |
OnceOver |
yes and a player option for username interaction |
| 05:49 |
OnceOver |
or maybe a command of some sort |
| 05:50 |
OnceOver |
like /username can interact with my bricks |
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ShadowNinja |
OnceOver: sokomine has a mod like that. |
| 05:52 |
OnceOver |
got a link by chance? |
| 05:52 |
ShadowNinja |
But only for doors and chests by default. |
| 05:52 |
ShadowNinja |
ShadowBot: g minetest locks mod |
| 05:52 |
ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS9nl-u2TZU |
| 05:53 |
OnceOver |
thanks |
| 05:53 |
ShadowNinja |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3653 |
| 05:54 |
OnceOver |
you guys are the best |
| 05:54 |
ShadowNinja |
Hmmm, it came up with the first video result, but not the first out of all. |
| 05:57 |
ShadowNinja |
Same for MinetestBot... |
| 05:58 |
ShadowNinja |
Probably Google's loging of my usage made the forums come up first. |
| 05:59 |
OnceOver |
whats minetestBot? |
| 06:01 |
OnceOver |
also they need a thing where banned users protected chests become regular ones |
| 06:01 |
OnceOver |
and that there doors can be pickaxed |
| 06:02 |
VanessaE |
where doors? |
| 06:02 |
VanessaE |
(pet peeve... there != they're != their ) |
| 06:03 |
OnceOver |
their |
| 06:03 |
OnceOver |
my bad |
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khonkhortisan |
I don't get this ranger game, yet I'm still playing it |
| 06:10 |
OnceOver |
you dont get it? |
| 06:10 |
OnceOver |
you lvl up beat the different stages get a high attack rating and go vs other players |
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markveidemanis |
Hello |
| 06:29 |
OnceOver |
you really markveidemanis? |
| 06:29 |
OnceOver |
the one on that server a while back? |
| 06:30 |
OnceOver |
the name of the server was makrveidmanis |
| 06:36 |
sfan5 |
OnceOver: the server was made for him |
| 06:36 |
OnceOver |
awesome |
| 06:36 |
OnceOver |
you know him? |
| 06:37 |
sfan5 |
what do you mean by "know" |
| 06:37 |
sfan5 |
!g minetest locks mod |
| 06:37 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS9nl-u2TZU |
| 06:37 |
sfan5 |
hm |
| 06:38 |
OnceOver |
well if the server was made for him did you make it? |
| 06:38 |
sfan5 |
I made the server |
| 06:38 |
OnceOver |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3653 i think this is that mod |
| 06:39 |
OnceOver |
so you made the server for him and you dont know him? |
| 06:39 |
sfan5 |
the server should only be online for 2 days or so... but |
| 06:40 |
OnceOver |
you shutting it down forever? |
| 06:41 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 06:41 |
OnceOver |
good cause i have built most of my legacy on your server |
| 06:43 |
OnceOver |
i hope we know eachother pretty well since i am living on your server |
| 06:43 |
OnceOver |
i live on your server more than i do at my house |
| 06:43 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 06:44 |
OnceOver |
bye vanesse |
| 06:46 |
markveidemanis |
OnceOver: wanna see something cool? |
| 06:46 |
OnceOver |
you know i do |
| 06:46 |
sfan5 |
!seen Jordach |
| 06:46 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: jordach was last seen at 2013-05-30 01:16:20 UTC on #minetest |
| 06:46 |
markveidemanis |
Try my server on the server list |
| 06:46 |
markveidemanis |
markveidemanis' server (Technical Server) |
| 06:47 |
OnceOver |
ok |
| 06:47 |
OnceOver |
idk what to expect but i am excited |
| 06:47 |
OnceOver |
when someone says cool |
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bcnjr5 |
Hey Calinou. |
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Calinou |
hi |
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Rhys_ |
Hi :) |
| 08:09 |
sfan5 |
hi |
| 08:09 |
Rhys_ |
Just a question: how do i make a server? |
| 08:09 |
Guest36496 |
Ok im a guest now :( |
| 08:10 |
Guest36496 |
Rhys = Guest36496 |
| 08:10 |
Guest36496 |
so sfan5: how do i make a server? |
| 08:10 |
sfan5 |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2870 |
| 08:10 |
Guest36496 |
Ok lemme read it and thanks :) |
| 08:14 |
markveidemanis |
Rhys: /nick Name |
| 08:14 |
markveidemanis |
Try Rhys9 |
| 08:15 |
markveidemanis |
try this http://bthomehub.home/login.lp |
| 08:15 |
markveidemanis |
close enough |
| 08:15 |
Rhys10 |
Hi mark :) |
| 08:15 |
markveidemanis |
Heya |
| 08:15 |
Rhys10 |
Ok sfan |
| 08:15 |
Rhys10 |
i did step one |
| 08:16 |
Rhys10 |
but minetest is keeping giving me the send error report thing |
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Rhys10 |
when i do so |
| 08:16 |
markveidemanis |
Whats your OS and Router model? |
| 08:16 |
Rhys10 |
? |
| 08:16 |
Rhys10 |
How do i find out? |
| 08:16 |
markveidemanis |
You should know lol |
| 08:17 |
Rhys10 |
Nope i dont |
| 08:17 |
markveidemanis |
Windows, linux? |
| 08:17 |
Rhys10 |
Windows |
| 08:17 |
markveidemanis |
k |
| 08:17 |
markveidemanis |
thats harder |
| 08:17 |
Rhys10 |
:( |
| 08:17 |
markveidemanis |
shift+rightclick minetest.exe |
| 08:17 |
markveidemanis |
and click the option that is not there normally |
| 08:17 |
markveidemanis |
something with CMD |
| 08:17 |
Rhys10 |
ok thnx |
| 08:18 |
markveidemanis |
then ask sfan5 :) |
| 08:18 |
Rhys10 |
where is minetest.exe? |
| 08:18 |
Rhys10 |
ik its in the minetest folder |
| 08:19 |
Calinou |
Rhys10: update your graphic driver |
| 08:19 |
Calinou |
(not through windows update!) |
| 08:19 |
Rhys10 |
Ok |
| 08:19 |
Rhys10 |
Which way? |
| 08:19 |
Rhys10 |
Changing the graphics card? |
| 08:19 |
markveidemanis |
"C://programfiles/minetest/bin/minetest.exe" --server --worldname TheWorld'sName |
| 08:20 |
markveidemanis |
start>>run>>cm |
| 08:20 |
Rhys10 |
?? |
| 08:20 |
markveidemanis |
+d |
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markveidemanis |
*>>cmd |
| 08:20 |
Rhys10 |
:D |
| 08:20 |
markveidemanis |
Rhys: join minetest.org:30010, im on |
| 08:20 |
Rhys10 |
ok |
| 08:21 |
Rhys10 |
shall i keep this chat up? |
| 08:21 |
markveidemanis |
yep |
| 08:21 |
Rhys10 |
Ok :) |
| 08:21 |
markveidemanis |
http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Setting_up_a_server AHA! |
| 08:21 |
markveidemanis |
brb ~10 min |
| 08:21 |
Rhys10 |
coming |
| 08:21 |
markveidemanis |
okay il wait about 5 |
| 08:21 |
Rhys10 |
Ok |
| 08:22 |
markveidemanis |
No, i must go, be back in a wile |
| 08:22 |
markveidemanis |
STay and build plz |
| 08:22 |
Rhys10 |
Ok :) |
| 08:22 |
Rhys10 |
Build what? |
| 08:23 |
Calinou |
<Rhys10> Changing the graphics card? => ._. |
| 08:23 |
Calinou |
Rhys10: what's your graphics card make? |
| 08:23 |
Rhys10 |
Ill look now |
| 08:23 |
Calinou |
tip: "dxdiag" |
| 08:24 |
Rhys10 |
i cant find my make |
| 08:25 |
Calinou |
Windows+R then type in "dxdiag" |
| 08:25 |
Calinou |
there should be a "Graphics" tab |
| 08:25 |
Rhys10 |
nope |
| 08:25 |
Rhys10 |
it came up with DirectX diagnostic Tool |
| 08:25 |
Rhys10 |
It says |
| 08:25 |
Rhys10 |
which tab? |
| 08:25 |
Calinou |
there are many tabs, isn't there one that tells you your graphic card? |
| 08:26 |
Calinou |
if you don't find it, click "save all information", save it on your desktop, open it, select it (ctrl+A) then copy (ctrl+C) |
| 08:26 |
Calinou |
then go to http://paste.ubuntu.com - paste everything, give us the link |
| 08:27 |
Rhys10 |
is it the card name? |
| 08:27 |
Rhys10 |
which part of it do u want? |
| 08:28 |
Calinou |
card name yes |
| 08:28 |
Calinou |
all of it? |
| 08:28 |
Calinou |
it isn't that long normally |
| 08:28 |
Rhys10 |
Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Family |
| 08:28 |
Rhys10 |
thts what ive got |
| 08:28 |
* Calinou |
facepalm |
| 08:28 |
Calinou |
gpu/intel: You can get drivers for Intel GPUs and chipsets here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/ |
| 08:28 |
Calinou |
well, you can try |
| 08:28 |
Calinou |
but don't expect high framerates |
| 08:28 |
Rhys10 |
I wont |
| 08:29 |
Rhys10 |
What is this all for? |
| 08:29 |
Calinou |
so that the game runs? |
| 08:30 |
Rhys10 |
I want to know how to make a server |
| 08:30 |
Calinou |
with an outdated driver, there may be bugs, or the OpenGL version required to run minetest (1.2) isn't supported |
| 08:30 |
Calinou |
what? |
| 08:30 |
Calinou |
you want to make a server now? |
| 08:30 |
Rhys10 |
Well kinda yes |
| 08:30 |
Calinou |
well, I forgot, my fault |
| 08:30 |
Calinou |
you don't need anything graphical to make a server |
| 08:30 |
Rhys10 |
xD |
| 08:30 |
Calinou |
go to your minetest directory, then "bin" |
| 08:30 |
Calinou |
Shift+right click any empty space |
| 08:30 |
Calinou |
click "Open command window here" |
| 08:31 |
Rhys10 |
dosent show |
| 08:31 |
Calinou |
:/ then, Windows+R then type "cmd" |
| 08:31 |
Calinou |
use the "cd" command to get to your minetest directory then "bin" |
| 08:31 |
Calinou |
then minetest.exe --server |
| 08:31 |
Rhys10 |
I dont get this :( |
| 08:32 |
Rhys10 |
i guess i am just not up for it yet... |
| 08:33 |
Calinou |
you aren't |
| 08:33 |
Rhys10 |
Ik ;( |
| 08:33 |
Calinou |
there are probably enough servers to play on already |
| 08:33 |
Rhys10 |
i guess |
| 08:33 |
Rhys10 |
Ok bye then :) |
| 08:36 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 08:36 |
kaeza |
kids these days... :/ |
| 08:36 |
kaeza |
they don't even know what cmd is |
| 08:37 |
bcnjr5 |
Xp |
| 08:37 |
Calinou |
more like, they don't know about tab completion or file paths |
| 08:38 |
Calinou |
I'm surprised microsoft didn't put a tutorial when you first boot windows... all games do that, so why not windows |
| 08:38 |
ruskie |
because windows is not a game |
| 08:38 |
ruskie |
hehe |
| 08:38 |
Calinou |
who said so? |
| 08:38 |
kaeza |
it isn't? |
| 08:38 |
Calinou |
:) |
| 08:39 |
ruskie |
or maybe to be more precise.. a tutorial is an optional and rather annoying part of it |
| 08:39 |
bcnjr5 |
Windows is just a cheap knock-off of GNOME. |
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markveidemanis |
netsplit |
| 08:42 |
Calinou |
bcnjr5: actually it isn't, GNOME 3 doesn't have a charms bar or stuff like that :P |
| 08:43 |
bcnjr5 |
Windows and GNOME are kind of like Minecraft and Minetest, come to think of it... |
| 08:43 |
ruskie |
windows and kde are more like that |
| 08:43 |
ruskie |
kde was always more focused on looking and feeling like windows |
| 08:44 |
ruskie |
right down to the file open/save windows |
| 08:45 |
markveidemanis |
Rhys10: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3954 |
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bcnjr5 |
Rhys left. |
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markveidemanis |
okay |
| 08:46 |
markveidemanis |
Do you like the new layout of the info? |
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kaeza |
stupid SDL |
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kaeza |
error display: Could not initialize SDL_video: No available video device <-- O RLY? |
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markveidemanis |
Can i add a server to the public list when im on the server? |
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markveidemanis |
with/set? |
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Rhys_ |
I am Rhys |
| 09:13 |
Rhys_ |
... |
| 09:14 |
markveidemanis |
Rhys10: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3954 |
| 09:14 |
Rhys10 |
Whats this about? |
| 09:14 |
markveidemanis |
The server :) |
| 09:15 |
Rhys10 |
Ok :) |
| 09:15 |
markveidemanis |
check out the screenshots |
| 09:15 |
Rhys10 |
:O |
| 09:15 |
Rhys10 |
Its sky city!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:16 |
Rhys10 |
:D |
| 09:16 |
Rhys10 |
nice screenshots, mark |
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Rhys10 |
ok back to minetest.org? |
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Calinou |
doesn't involve ponies, not horrible |
| 09:59 |
Calinou |
also, that kind of stuff tends to happen when booting for me, but rarely |
| 09:59 |
Calinou |
a reboot and it is fixed |
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codedevil |
:D |
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markveidemanis |
Who is good with mesecons/digiline/receivers? |
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sfan5 |
"time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time time ls" is the same as "time ls" for me |
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sfan5 |
john_minetest: wanna play jsbombers? |
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markveidemanis |
I found a way to save CPU... |
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sfan5 |
john_minetest: http://sfan5.dyndns.org:8383 |
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sfan5 |
*:8083 |
| 10:50 |
markveidemanis |
in linux/lubuntu:open minetestserver and click execute, it shows up as a tack, no need for console |
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sfan5 |
markveidemanis: that doesn't save any cpu |
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markveidemanis |
Yes it does if you have a netbook |
| 10:51 |
markveidemanis |
The terminal uses CPU, yes? |
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sfan5 |
if you care about that 0.00001% cpu the consple uses, you need to buy a new computer and not use the stoneage thing you have |
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markveidemanis |
This way i dont have any F**ing windows open |
| 10:52 |
sfan5 |
*console |
| 10:52 |
markveidemanis |
And its the same as going into the multiplayer thing in game except if i crash it doesnt take down the server |
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sfan5 |
john_minetest: you coming? |
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sfan5 |
john_minetest: maybe its firefox? |
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markveidemanis |
http://sfan5.dyndns.org:8083/ |
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markveidemanis |
Who will play with me? |
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FreeFull |
If Linux wins, why is windows the one with win in the name? |
| 11:08 |
markveidemanis |
sfan5.... |
| 11:08 |
sfan5 |
it crashed |
| 11:08 |
markveidemanis |
It broke |
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sfan5 |
if someone observing a game quits, everything break |
| 11:08 |
sfan5 |
brb dinner |
| 11:09 |
markveidemanis |
and when i use someone elses nick, eveerything crash |
| 11:12 |
Calinou |
no, everyone leaves |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 11:14 |
markveidemanis |
Hello PilzAdam! |
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Guest69500 |
someone help me with logic |
| 11:15 |
markveidemanis |
? |
| 11:15 |
markveidemanis |
This channel is lagging |
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markveidemanis |
I did that 30 seconds ago, got it changed, changed my name back and identified |
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PilzAdam |
thexyz, forum is down: "MySQL reported: Too many connections" |
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PilzAdam |
https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/5677195 |
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markveidemanis |
Sorry! The page could not be loaded. Unable to connect to MySQL and select database. MySQL reported: Too many connections |
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markveidemanis |
minetest forum |
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Calinou |
read: minecraft 1.6 is out |
| 11:18 |
markveidemanis |
and we are still 0.4 |
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thexyz |
hurr durr |
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PilzAdam |
works again |
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markveidemanis |
86.172.132.147 Help |
| 11:19 |
markveidemanis |
I think i found a bug with wireless |
| 11:23 |
Calinou |
mesecons? |
| 11:23 |
Calinou |
report it on github, simpler |
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markveidemanis |
JOin server, im not sure how to describe it or im just being a noob and missing something obvious |
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Calinou |
video/screenshots then |
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PilzAdam |
john_minetest, lol |
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PilzAdam |
with a self made antenna out of a bean can |
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PilzAdam |
Calinou, take it down: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92493#p92493 |
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BlockMen |
hi |
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PilzAdam |
hey ho BlockMen |
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Calinou |
PilzAdam: what is it? virus? |
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PilzAdam |
well, he just copied it from a not free MC pack |
| 11:37 |
* Calinou |
noticed, "Sky hardcore" is now "Sky" |
| 11:37 |
Calinou |
rule lawerying huehuehue |
| 11:37 |
Calinou |
lawyering* |
| 11:38 |
PilzAdam |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6136 <- spam |
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kaeza |
thought that guy was gone for good |
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sfan5 |
hahahahahah |
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Jordach |
sup |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam, kanguru |
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PilzAdam |
Wrong wrong wrong wrong, wrong wrong wrong wrong, youre wrong |
| 12:21 |
PilzAdam |
youre wrong youre wrong |
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Jordach |
enjoy that forum item |
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PilzAdam |
lol, german version: http://youtu.be/6m1TcNQM4rs |
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sfan5 |
[german] google translator makes the funniest things: http://i.imgur.com/G3onnm6.png [/german] |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam, that video was clearly falsch |
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PilzAdam |
sfan5, mit stall _und_ kräuseln? oO |
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sfan5 |
PilzAdam: CURL/kraüseln Stable/Stall |
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markveidemanis |
Who can help me with some base lua |
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sfan5 |
markveidemanis: #lua |
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PilzAdam |
oO ubuntu now removes the old linux kernel packages |
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markveidemanis |
i just realised... |
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markveidemanis |
//lua minetest.chat_send_all("hi") works! |
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PilzAdam |
markveidemanis, do you actually know what mods you have installed? |
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markveidemanis |
morldedit |
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markveidemanis |
worldedit |
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Jordach |
markveidemanis, http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#forum |
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Jordach |
http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html * |
| 13:02 |
PilzAdam |
spam: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92520#p92520 |
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markveidemanis |
minetest.chat_send_all(minetest.get_connected_players) |
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markveidemanis |
? |
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Jordach |
how do they still get past? |
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PilzAdam |
"Notice! The message count of your Inbox is close to the limit of 100 messages. Please, delete old and unnecessary messages. Otherwise, you cannot receive new messages if the limit is reached." \o/ finally no PMs anymore |
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Jordach |
i once made a mod where the node animated without using latest features |
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* Jordach |
eats sausage roll |
| 13:10 |
Jordach |
im also thinking that every hour, lava_flowing should cool into stone |
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Jordach |
i just noticed that wolfram alpha does the game of life when calculating |
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markveidemanis |
Can i use the Commandbox to do //lua from the luacontroller? |
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Jordach |
markveidemanis, ask on the forum topic |
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Jordach |
nopt here |
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Jordach |
not* |
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Jordach |
i've always had a theory |
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Jordach |
teach C++ alongside regular human language |
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markveidemanis |
http://pastie.org/7983685 |
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markveidemanis |
help |
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Jordach |
markveidemanis, http://pastie.org/7983689 |
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Jordach |
try commas |
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Jordach |
i learned that the hard way |
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Jordach |
Lua shares a lot with Python, but not end of lines |
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markveidemanis |
lol ok |
| 13:33 |
Jordach |
actually, http://pastie.org/7983692 |
| 13:34 |
Jordach |
mathematical statements such as a = b don't need commas iirc |
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markveidemanis |
Jordach... |
| 13:35 |
Jordach |
yes |
| 13:35 |
markveidemanis |
Umm how to explain this |
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markveidemanis |
I am trying to send the result of multiple input instances to the screen |
| 13:36 |
markveidemanis |
so if i enter e |
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markveidemanis |
then a |
| 13:36 |
Jordach |
it prints ea |
| 13:36 |
markveidemanis |
it will send e \n a |
| 13:36 |
Jordach |
that should use a for loop |
| 13:36 |
Jordach |
with prints |
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markveidemanis |
i cant use for |
| 13:37 |
Jordach |
while X = Y then blah |
| 13:37 |
markveidemanis |
local prohibited = {"while", "for", "repeat", "until", "function"} |
| 13:37 |
Jordach |
then in theory, its impossibke |
| 13:38 |
Jordach |
inmpossible |
| 13:38 |
Jordach |
you need a loop to do it |
| 13:38 |
Jordach |
otherwise you might as well as code a minetest mod |
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markveidemanis |
it is a loop |
| 13:39 |
markveidemanis |
on every input |
| 13:39 |
markveidemanis |
In worldedit, can i make a hollow box? |
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markveidemanis |
Jordach: can you help me with the code? |
| 13:49 |
markveidemanis |
Every time i send on tty1, it appends it and sends it |
| 13:49 |
markveidemanis |
so every time i send a new line |
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bibivincs |
hi everyone |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach, what is this bullshit "put commas at the end of lines"? |
| 13:51 |
PilzAdam |
commas only need to be in tabled |
| 13:51 |
PilzAdam |
*tables |
| 13:52 |
PilzAdam |
this clearly is not a table |
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markveidemanis |
who can fix it then? |
| 13:58 |
markveidemanis |
And how can i carry info from command blocks to luacontrollers |
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markveidemanis |
with //lua |
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sweetbomber |
hello. just to make sure: a block goes from (0, 0, 0) to (15,15,15) , right? |
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kaeza |
sweetbomber, yes |
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kaeza |
hey Zeg9 |
| 14:10 |
Zeg9 |
Hello ! |
| 14:16 |
* kaeza |
nuked apache2 and installed hiawatha instead |
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kaeza |
much easier to maintain |
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kaeza |
s/maintain/configure/ |
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proller |
use nginx! |
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PilzAdam |
someone should trash this topic just for the lulz: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92539#p92539 |
| 14:42 |
Zeg9 |
john_minetest!!! |
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PilzAdam |
Zeg9!!! |
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Zeg9 |
PilzAdam!!! |
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kaeza |
kaeza!!! |
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Zeg9 |
lol |
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PilzAdam |
I need textures for the new things added to MiniTest |
| 14:43 |
PilzAdam |
have you seen the shears or redstone? |
| 14:43 |
Zeg9 |
+1 for trashing the topic; I have seen redstone, not shears |
| 14:43 |
PilzAdam |
especially my awesome drawing skills ;-) |
| 14:44 |
Zeg9 |
"I promise, that if ANYBODY messes with me for no reason ONE MORE TIME, i will make the whole minetest website crash!" |
| 14:45 |
PilzAdam |
I think this offending, it violates the forum rules; trash it! |
| 14:45 |
Zeg9 |
Guess who wrote this |
| 14:45 |
Zeg9 |
First one |
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PilzAdam |
I dont thing markv knows that you can take down websites... |
| 14:47 |
PilzAdam |
ok, who told him that? |
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* PilzAdam |
looks at kaeza |
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kaeza |
wut |
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* kaeza |
lol'd |
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thexyz |
wait, wait |
| 14:48 |
thexyz |
i love it |
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markveidemanis |
i know how to take down a website... i think |
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PilzAdam |
thexyz, how about closing it? |
| 14:49 |
markveidemanis |
first you find a fridge |
| 14:49 |
markveidemanis |
then get a teddy bear from a bus stop |
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sweetbomber |
lol |
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sweetbomber |
i think the was just talking about closing his internet explorer window. |
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sweetbomber |
*guy |
| 14:55 |
PilzAdam |
sure, if you close your browers the internet turns into standby mode and waits for you to come back |
| 14:55 |
kaeza |
nah. probably sending the blue 'e' to the recycle bin |
| 14:55 |
sweetbomber |
"If i cant see it, it isn't there" :p |
| 14:56 |
sweetbomber |
anyway, the guy wanted some attention |
| 14:57 |
Zeg9 |
IIRC just by telling internet explorer to visit a website it may crash the whole server[/troll] |
| 14:57 |
sweetbomber |
and managed to get it. proceed |
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kaeza |
and Calinou too |
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kaeza |
oops |
| 14:57 |
* Calinou |
checks IRC logs |
| 14:57 |
Calinou |
:> |
| 14:58 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, we need some anti-troll troll here: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92549#p92549 |
| 14:58 |
Calinou |
oh by the way, it was my dropbox birthday yesterday :D |
| 14:58 |
* PilzAdam |
bets 10$ that Calinou wins |
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PilzAdam |
it depends whether you use IPv3 or IPv5 |
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kaeza |
well, duh |
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proller |
ipv6 not merged yet ? |
| 15:04 |
kaeza |
IPv3 uses TSP |
| 15:04 |
proller |
i can test |
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markveidemanis |
yes, it works even better with ice-cream though |
| 15:04 |
PilzAdam |
john_minetest, yea, it works with IPv4.5 mac edition if you plug the fridge into a potato |
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Zeg9 |
If only Ragnar was reaing that :p |
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Zeg9 |
+d |
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PilzAdam |
GNU has released patch, though, that doubles the size of fridge |
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Calinou |
"mac edition" |
| 15:06 |
* Calinou |
still remembers that "mac edition" HD7950 |
| 15:07 |
Calinou |
400 euros, while you can find 7950s for 250 euros... |
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markveidemanis |
I can count to potato! |
| 15:10 |
Calinou |
carrot* |
| 15:10 |
Calinou |
FTFY |
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PilzAdam |
you dont need the juice if you go to your Linux registry and change the key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/foo/fridge/juice/ice/bar/ice/foo/fridge to "AAKGGNEAFAGG" |
| 15:10 |
Calinou |
john_minetest: welcome to my forum signature |
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thexyz |
s/Linux registry/Gnome registry/ |
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Zeg9 |
did you mean the wine registry? |
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PilzAdam |
Zeg9, note how you correctly close the brackets: https://github.com/PilzAdam/MiniTest/commit/54113d87c3d768e6385c2f83a5af76e8cd39398e |
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Zeg9 |
:D |
| 15:14 |
PilzAdam |
/etc/ is deprecated |
| 15:14 |
Calinou |
edit /etc/Frigeorg/fridgeorg.conf |
| 15:14 |
Calinou |
in the "Device" section, add "EnableFridgeControl 4" |
| 15:14 |
PilzAdam |
use the new registry builtin into the Linux kernel |
| 15:15 |
PilzAdam |
firefox can heat it up |
| 15:15 |
Calinou |
but chromium will freeze it again, and google chrome will spy on that coffee |
| 15:15 |
PilzAdam |
google created a patch for it, wich microsoft deleted and finally someone from Oracle threw it into firefox |
| 15:16 |
Calinou |
to actually heat it up, put a running phenom ×6 in that coffee |
| 15:16 |
Calinou |
good luck |
| 15:16 |
PilzAdam |
people from Oracle are driving in their cars like crazy in order to increase the speed of the global warming to melt the coffee |
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Calinou |
lol |
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kaeza |
john_minetest, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBVDp5eBMhU |
| 15:19 |
kaeza |
^ irony |
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Mustek |
.version |
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Mustek |
sorry, wrong channel |
| 15:22 |
Mustek |
you guys need a version command if you didn't already |
| 15:22 |
PilzAdam |
version of what? |
| 15:22 |
Mustek |
minetest? |
| 15:22 |
PilzAdam |
its written in the topic |
| 15:22 |
Mustek |
still |
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kaeza |
O.o |
| 15:23 |
PilzAdam |
/topic |
| 15:23 |
PilzAdam |
^ here you have your version command |
| 15:23 |
Calinou |
Ragnar is high: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82342922/temp/Capture%20d'%C3%A9cran%20-%2030052013%20-%2017%3A22%3A39.png |
| 15:23 |
Calinou |
he posted this in the "farming added" news |
| 15:23 |
PilzAdam |
yea, I saw |
| 15:24 |
Jordach |
nice IP ragnar |
| 15:24 |
* Zeg9 |
likes when moderators take screenshots |
| 15:25 |
Jordach |
(8/9/0)4.5(8/9/0).(2/3)(8/9/0).65 |
| 15:25 |
Jordach |
is ragnar's ip |
| 15:25 |
Calinou |
heh |
| 15:26 |
Calinou |
Jordach: edited the image, I saw: P |
| 15:26 |
Calinou |
Jordach: that still makes for a lot of potential IPs |
| 15:26 |
Jordach |
find estonia's ip range |
| 15:27 |
Jordach |
that cuts the first sector down |
| 15:28 |
Jordach |
okay |
| 15:28 |
Jordach |
ragnar is on weed: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92532#p92532 |
| 15:29 |
Jordach |
i *do not* look like chain lynx |
| 15:30 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 15:30 |
Calinou |
chainlynx has a funny face already :P |
| 15:31 |
Jordach |
and i dont own an iPhony |
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Jordach |
die nächste sentance ist falsch |
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FreeFull |
I don't like pie |
| 15:53 |
Calinou |
cake is better |
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thexyz |
it's a lie though |
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Jordach |
thexyz, Someone requested a new password for your Minetest |
| 16:01 |
Jordach |
login at http://minetest.net/ |
| 16:01 |
Jordach |
If you did not request a new password then just ignore this email. |
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Jordach was kicked by ShadowBot: Paste flood detected. Use a pastebin like ix.io or pastebin.ubuntu.com. |
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thexyz |
ShadowNinja: that wasn't paste flood |
| 16:03 |
thexyz |
3 lines ain't no paste flood |
| 16:03 |
khonkhortisan |
obviously you typed it at a human speed |
| 16:04 |
Jordach |
thexyz, my login wasnt hacked |
| 16:05 |
thexyz |
Jordach: why do you ping me about that issue? |
| 16:05 |
thexyz |
i only manage forum.minetest.net |
| 16:05 |
thexyz |
and dev.minetest.net |
| 16:05 |
thexyz |
and servers |
| 16:05 |
thexyz |
seriously, why? |
| 16:05 |
Jordach |
thexyz, better to have one know than have it hidden |
| 16:05 |
Jordach |
*someone* is trying to hack ud |
| 16:05 |
Jordach |
us* |
| 16:07 |
thexyz |
that sucks |
| 16:07 |
thexyz |
but i can't do anything about it |
| 16:08 |
thexyz |
which reminds me of one thing though |
| 16:08 |
thexyz |
when was that "air sword" topic deleted? |
| 16:12 |
VanessaE |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92539#p92539 <--- I say ban his ass. |
| 16:12 |
VanessaE |
also, hi |
| 16:12 |
thexyz |
okay, i'll find out myself |
| 16:15 |
thexyz |
oh, whatever, too lazy |
| 16:15 |
thexyz |
i suppose it was deleted a while ago |
| 16:15 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 16:15 |
kaeza |
hey V |
| 16:15 |
thexyz |
at least i can't find it in a backup from 02.02 |
| 16:20 |
VanessaE |
I'd have put that under the "act suitably" part actually. |
| 16:21 |
thexyz |
i believe it's fine |
| 16:21 |
VanessaE |
threatening to hack/crash the main website? |
| 16:21 |
thexyz |
freedom of speech at its best |
| 16:21 |
thexyz |
yes |
| 16:22 |
* VanessaE |
shrugs |
| 16:30 |
Jordach |
someone did try to hack my minetest.net dokuwiki acc. |
| 16:31 |
Jordach |
hm? |
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VanessaE |
mobile devices don't have the computing power for that |
| 16:37 |
jordan4ibanez |
Perfect os for viruses. |
| 16:37 |
VanessaE |
interpreted languages are inherently slower than compiled languages. |
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* Jordach |
slaps VanessaE with a Samsung Galaxy S4 |
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Jordach |
those can handle modern video game graphics |
| 16:38 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: but they aren't running interpreted languages to create said graphics are they? |
| 16:39 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, python + pyopengl is actually pretty fast# |
| 16:39 |
Jordach |
python is interpretted, but extensions are c/C++ |
| 16:39 |
Jordach |
you do lose about 0.01secs |
| 16:40 |
thexyz |
how's your battery doing? |
| 16:40 |
Jordach |
hows your battery exploding |
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sfan5 |
noooo |
| 16:44 |
sfan5 |
nooooooooo |
| 16:45 |
Jordach |
KHAANNNNNNNNNNNNNN! |
| 16:45 |
Jordach |
KKKKKKKKHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNN! |
| 16:45 |
Jordach |
technically, the language is called Android |
| 16:46 |
ruskie |
it's still java |
| 16:46 |
Jordach |
because the main stuff is android.foo |
| 16:46 |
ruskie |
with a dalvik VM underneath |
| 16:46 |
ruskie |
which in essence is a java VM |
| 16:46 |
Jordach |
iOS uses Objective C |
| 16:46 |
ruskie |
only has android. stuff added to the classpath |
| 16:46 |
ruskie |
and you can make nitev software on android to c++/c |
| 16:47 |
ruskie |
erm native even |
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Jordach |
hey bas080 |
| 16:48 |
bas080 |
Hey Jordach |
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bas080 |
Jordach, how's the composing coming along? |
| 16:49 |
Jordach |
alright |
| 16:49 |
bas080 |
anything new? |
| 16:49 |
Jordach |
not really. PusleAudio is a asshole to FL Studio |
| 16:49 |
Jordach |
an* |
| 16:49 |
bas080 |
is started using lmms |
| 16:50 |
Jordach |
bas080, http://www.mediafire.com/listen/s8i5fpw261n0fbr/CPU_Generated.ogg |
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bas080 |
spacey pluck(i think). |
| 16:51 |
Jordach |
bas080, hybrid of the two sqaure purities |
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Zeg9 |
PilzAdam: /me found gold before iron in minitest... |
| 16:59 |
PilzAdam |
Zeg9, try to mine it :-p |
| 17:00 |
Zeg9 |
The worst is that it was exactly the same thing when I started playing minecraft... |
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VanessaE |
sfan5: you around? |
| 17:08 |
VanessaE |
actually.. |
| 17:08 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: in worldedit++, do you have a fixlight command? |
| 17:08 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
| 17:08 |
VanessaE |
which method does it use? |
| 17:08 |
PilzAdam |
and it doesnt lag, only digs 64/step |
| 17:08 |
VanessaE |
can you try something for me? |
| 17:08 |
PilzAdam |
depends what it is |
| 17:09 |
VanessaE |
can you try calling nodeupdate instead of dig? See if it has the same effect? |
| 17:09 |
PilzAdam |
of course it doesnt |
| 17:09 |
PilzAdam |
nodeupdate only updates the falling and attached nodes |
| 17:09 |
VanessaE |
damn. |
| 17:10 |
VanessaE |
reason I ask is that fixlight lags because rollback manager is slowing it down |
| 17:10 |
PilzAdam |
disable rollback :-p |
| 17:10 |
VanessaE |
I was hoping there was another way that would avoid those events being logged |
| 17:14 |
Zeg9 |
Maybe... rollback could only log actions from players (I guess fixlight doesn't tell the player who "digs" the nodes) |
| 17:14 |
VanessaE |
is there any chance I could get you to move that function into builtin or so? |
| 17:14 |
VanessaE |
(nodeupdate I mean) |
| 17:14 |
VanessaE |
er, that was wrong |
| 17:15 |
VanessaE |
it's already in builtin as part of falling.lua |
| 17:15 |
VanessaE |
I mean, move it into some more "generic" place |
| 17:17 |
* PilzAdam |
installs Diablo 2 in wine |
| 17:17 |
kahrl |
Zeg9: I know someone who found diamond before coal in a minecraft world |
| 17:18 |
* Zeg9 |
is surprised not finding lava blobs around bedrock in minitest |
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| 17:19 |
Calinou |
~10 layers above bedrock there's lava in minecraft |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
any air block below is replaced with a lava source |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
"lava flood" |
| 17:20 |
PilzAdam |
really? |
| 17:20 |
PilzAdam |
thats interesting |
| 17:20 |
PilzAdam |
and easy to code |
| 17:20 |
Calinou |
http://minecraftwiki.net/altitude |
| 17:20 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: actually forget what I said about nodeupdate, I wasn't thinking straight. |
| 17:27 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: yes |
| 17:27 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: nevermind, too late :) |
| 17:27 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: you could disable rollback |
| 17:28 |
VanessaE |
well that's right out |
| 17:29 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, done |
| 17:29 |
PilzAdam |
this is interesting because diamond spawn under the air -> lava level |
| 17:30 |
PilzAdam |
+s |
| 17:30 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: just for a tiny moment |
| 17:30 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: well at any rate, can you throttle fixlight down so that it doesn't lag? seems PA figured that out too |
| 17:31 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: I can't throttle individual functions |
| 17:31 |
sfan5 |
I can only throttle all or none |
| 17:31 |
Jordach |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLrpBLDWyCI |
| 17:31 |
Jordach |
sfan5, ^ |
| 17:31 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, fun fact: you can find ways through the bedrock into the nether, but its harder now with the lava |
| 17:33 |
kaeza |
HORY SHET! |
| 17:33 |
kaeza |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92599#p92599 |
| 17:33 |
Zeg9 |
PilzAdam: isn't the probability for the last layer of 1? |
| 17:33 |
Zeg9 |
hmm |
| 17:33 |
Zeg9 |
anyway, its funnier like that. something that minecraft doesn't have. |
| 17:34 |
PilzAdam |
I spawn 16 layers of solid bedrock but the cave generator just cuts though it sometimes |
| 17:34 |
Zeg9 |
even if is_ground_content = false? |
| 17:34 |
PilzAdam |
this flag is not used yet |
| 17:34 |
PilzAdam |
but it will probably fix it |
| 17:35 |
Zeg9 |
Not sure, I think the default is false... |
| 17:35 |
PilzAdam |
yes, default is nil |
| 17:35 |
Calinou |
O_o big wall of text |
| 17:35 |
Calinou |
let's read it as if it was MLP fanfic, will be funnier |
| 17:37 |
PilzAdam |
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9fadbwt9wdbmz09/BedrockCave.png |
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Zeg9 |
Naughty cave generator:p |
| 17:42 |
FreeFull |
PilzAdam: One can always tunnel through lava |
| 17:43 |
arsdragonfly |
is there any kind of filtering in mapgen? |
| 17:43 |
proller |
no problem to move over lava with water |
| 17:43 |
arsdragonfly |
sometimes some blocks seem out of place:P |
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| 17:49 |
sweetbomber |
hmmmm: i made a pull request regarding the spawning, which we talked yesterday |
| 17:50 |
sweetbomber |
I have some ideas regarding biomes which i wanted to discuss with you and with whoever is thinking of map-gen and biomes |
| 17:50 |
hmmmm |
sure thing |
| 18:02 |
Jordach |
why is Calinou obsessed with ponies |
| 18:04 |
sweetbomber |
hmmm i have some ideas about biomes |
| 18:04 |
hmmmm |
yes, you mentioned that, what are they? |
| 18:04 |
sweetbomber |
you were working on them, in mapgen_v7, right? |
| 18:04 |
hmmmm |
yes, i am... |
| 18:04 |
sweetbomber |
well, basically, i think there should be a biome engine |
| 18:04 |
Calinou |
Jordach: no 8) |
| 18:05 |
sweetbomber |
which takes configurations for each biome in a directory or something |
| 18:05 |
sweetbomber |
and for each biome, a configuration file defines several stuff: |
| 18:06 |
sweetbomber |
namely special structures, parameters for ores, parameters for terrain generation |
| 18:06 |
sweetbomber |
there could be several structures in a biome |
| 18:06 |
hmmmm |
that is a great idea |
| 18:06 |
sweetbomber |
and by structures i mean every thing: from trees to dungeons and npc villages |
| 18:06 |
hmmmm |
it's so good that we're already doing that |
| 18:07 |
sweetbomber |
but regarding structures |
| 18:07 |
hmmmm |
schematic type for decorations |
| 18:07 |
sweetbomber |
i think they should be made taking into account modules |
| 18:07 |
sweetbomber |
where a structure can be made of several modules connected by "bonding points" |
| 18:07 |
hmmmm |
it's true that i haven't committed anything related to that yet, because i'm sort of hung up on a technical problem |
| 18:08 |
sweetbomber |
and such modules could be selected randomly for each complete structure |
| 18:08 |
hmmmm |
that's how nether fotresses are generated in Minecraft |
| 18:08 |
sweetbomber |
for example: a npc village would be a structure, and each housing type is a module, where the bonding point is the door or something else |
| 18:09 |
sweetbomber |
each module would be as well be defined in such config file |
| 18:09 |
sweetbomber |
a river would be a structure also |
| 18:09 |
sweetbomber |
where several parts would be connected, |
| 18:10 |
sweetbomber |
this means that each structure should have some degrees of freedom, which would be randomized |
| 18:10 |
sweetbomber |
a house would have no degree of freedom, but a river would have a little |
| 18:11 |
sweetbomber |
trees would have a little degree of freedom too |
| 18:11 |
hmmmm |
these variable structures would be covered by L-systems decorations |
| 18:13 |
sweetbomber |
sorry my ignorance (i did not find anything in google): what are L-systems decorations? |
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hmmmm |
there are three decoration types: basic, schematic, and l-system. basic covers such things as papyrus, cacti, and patches of grass, schematic is for more static (but it does allow for randomness) structures where you define some model of a structure that's placed, and l-system decorations are defined by rules and what not |
| 18:13 |
hmmmm |
currently, l-systems are only being used by trees but that's clearly far from the only intended use |
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| 18:16 |
sweetbomber |
what is your technical problem? Can i help you out? |
| 18:17 |
hmmmm |
i have a solution but it's something i'd rather avoid |
| 18:18 |
hmmmm |
if a decoration doesn't fit, i'm planning on putting the information about this "cut-off" onto a queue, and passing it to emergethread #0 to handle |
| 18:19 |
hmmmm |
there'll have to be a whole separate system for handling this |
| 18:19 |
sweetbomber |
doesn't fit where? within a block? |
| 18:19 |
hmmmm |
an appropriately-sized MMVM would have to be emerged and then the writing will happen there instead of inside of makeChunk() |
| 18:20 |
hmmmm |
and of course this might have some race condition problems so i'd have to wait on anything that's using the blocks involved with the decoration placement |
| 18:20 |
hmmmm |
doesn't fit inside the chunk currently being generated |
| 18:21 |
hmmmm |
so this is the "solution" but i'm trying to find something better before i go through all of that |
| 18:22 |
sweetbomber |
hmm, i see it |
| 18:22 |
hmmmm |
chances are you won't be able to help, to be honest, sorry.. you'd need a very good understanding of what's going on in the map generating process and all the interactions going on |
| 18:22 |
sweetbomber |
in fact i dont think queing it would be a good idea |
| 18:23 |
hmmmm |
hey, if you can figure something else out that'll work, that's awesome |
| 18:23 |
hmmmm |
i've mulled over this for a couple days and it's the best i've come up with |
| 18:23 |
sweetbomber |
imagine the following |
| 18:25 |
sweetbomber |
imagine that it is possible to know if a given 2d coordinate is supposed to have a structure |
| 18:25 |
sweetbomber |
(this is possible since the randomness is deterministic) |
| 18:25 |
hmmmm |
before you bother suggesting that I just emerge the rest of what I need in makeChunk(), that won't work because it'd throw off the cubic shape of a chunk, i'd need to lock the environment from inside the mapgen (simply not happening), and then i'd have to synchronize with the other threads that may be generating the affected additional area |
| 18:26 |
sweetbomber |
then, when we build a chunk with a structure that does not fit, it simply leaves the structure uncomplete |
| 18:27 |
hmmmm |
in order to do that, i'd need to calculate the placements of structures for an indeterminate range |
| 18:27 |
sweetbomber |
when building the next chunk, it will be known that in certain part of it there is a structure, because the structure-location function indicates there is a structure |
| 18:27 |
hmmmm |
this is the first thing i considered |
| 18:28 |
sweetbomber |
but you dont need to calculate everything, it can be calculated as needed |
| 18:28 |
hmmmm |
how do i know i need it |
| 18:29 |
sweetbomber |
you only calculate for each chunk |
| 18:30 |
hmmmm |
but the point of the cut-off is that you don't know what's supposed to be in what chunk |
| 18:30 |
hmmmm |
so i'd have to be calculating decorations to be placed in surrounding chunks for some large-ish radius |
| 18:31 |
sweetbomber |
let me think of a practical way to do that, so that a chunk would have the same structure no matter of what parts of the map are generated... |
| 18:31 |
sweetbomber |
*parts of the map were previously generated... |
| 18:33 |
sweetbomber |
btw, we are thinking of abritrarly sized structures, that could be several chunks in size, right? |
| 18:33 |
hmmmm |
yes |
| 18:39 |
sweetbomber |
ok, we could create a second 2d map |
| 18:39 |
sweetbomber |
which has the structure information only |
| 18:40 |
sweetbomber |
lets imagine the following |
| 18:40 |
sweetbomber |
the structure starts at a given node coordinate |
| 18:40 |
sweetbomber |
that will be the structure "seed" or trunk |
| 18:41 |
sweetbomber |
then, that structure is built, and within the same chunk there is no problem |
| 18:42 |
sweetbomber |
since the structure could have different modules connected, etc...lets call those sub-structures branches |
| 18:43 |
sweetbomber |
when a branch reaches a chunk limit, it stores the branch's data in a 2d array |
| 18:44 |
sweetbomber |
oc, the 2d coordinate of the trunk would also indicate the trunk data |
| 18:44 |
sweetbomber |
more easily, each 2d coordinate could only point to the trunk data |
| 18:45 |
hmmmm |
wouldn't that imply there's a set number of structures existing |
| 18:47 |
sweetbomber |
the array would need to accommodate several entries on each point |
| 18:47 |
sweetbomber |
but i wouldnt call it a 3d array because each 2d coordinated had a different depth |
| 18:49 |
hmmmm |
you should also be aware that decoration placement is not only based on a position, but the previous state of the random seed as well |
| 18:49 |
sweetbomber |
since there are a lot of small structures, like trees, maybe the trunk data could be dismissed from such map |
| 18:49 |
hmmmm |
what you want is almost like perlin noise |
| 18:49 |
sweetbomber |
in fact, i really wanted a f(x, y, z) function that specified the structure at that point in the world |
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| 18:50 |
sweetbomber |
seems complicated, but i will still give some toughts to that |
| 18:51 |
sweetbomber |
in fact my greatest driver to want to become part of this community is the map generation, because it seems very challenging |
| 18:54 |
sweetbomber |
i just noticed one thing: i think that by using the 2d map or whatever that is not a f(x,y,z) could lead to problems because the chunks could be emerged in parallel by different threads, right? |
| 18:56 |
Jordach |
sweetbomber, #minetest-dev |
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sweetbomber |
Jordach: sorry |
| 19:02 |
Jordach |
sweetbomber, thats fine, but really, development is more suited for there |
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Jordach |
my technophobe of a mother picked up the droid tablet and was sneakily playing angry birds |
| 19:09 |
hmmmm |
having an f(x, y, z) function kind of goes against the whole way that decorations are placed |
| 19:10 |
hmmmm |
also you'd have to lose the randomness in position |
| 19:10 |
hmmmm |
well, nevermind what i last said |
| 19:10 |
hmmmm |
could use noise2d() i guess |
| 19:11 |
hmmmm |
i'd have to think about it, but what you said is a fundamentally different approach and it'd change a lot |
| 19:11 |
hmmmm |
hrm |
| 19:12 |
hmmmm |
specifically, we'd need to iterate over the entire map, regardless of how rare decorations are |
| 19:23 |
Jordach |
LETS SPAM WHILE SHADOWBOT'S AWAY |
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| 19:23 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: no |
| 19:24 |
Jordach |
sfan5, i was taking the piss |
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| 19:30 |
VanessaE |
http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/05/30/1520213/ubuntu-closes-longstanding-bug-1 |
| 19:30 |
VanessaE |
O.o |
| 19:30 |
VanessaE |
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1/comments/1834 |
| 19:33 |
harrison |
what do you call a large lizard from africa or asia who believes that healing comes from faith alone? |
| 19:33 |
harrison |
christian science monitor |
| 19:37 |
sweetbomber |
hmmmm: ill think if that is doable |
| 19:39 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, lol |
| 19:39 |
kaeza |
interesting bug report |
| 19:39 |
kaeza |
glad it got "fixed" |
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* Calinou |
facepalm |
| 19:47 |
Calinou |
hello harshlinuxian |
| 19:47 |
Calinou |
news: linux isn't only for the elite |
| 19:48 |
* VanessaE |
grumbles at john_minetest .... I use ubuntu, thank you. |
| 19:49 |
Calinou |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92604#p92604 <= yey |
| 19:49 |
Calinou |
another topic full of arguing |
| 19:49 |
VanessaE |
oh mine's hardly 'default' though |
| 19:49 |
Calinou |
same, xubuntu with chromium + clementine + eog + libreoffice + geany |
| 19:50 |
Calinou |
removed leafpad/abiword/gnumeric/gmusicbrowser... |
| 19:50 |
Calinou |
using it in default configuration implies 20 FPS in sauerbraten 8) |
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Calinou |
KDE isn't an example of speed, even less with compositing |
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| 19:52 |
VanessaE |
xubuntu (=xfce + lightdm) works well enough for me |
| 19:52 |
VanessaE |
yep |
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| 19:58 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/commit/30a5bc3494c646935206296b81a816f3380cdb2c |
| 19:58 |
VanessaE |
this is all your fault ;) |
| 20:00 |
VanessaE |
(did the same on all my other mods, and on HDX too, and jpegoptim there too) |
| 20:01 |
Calinou |
dat nvidia penguin |
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Calinou |
VanessaE, too bad github doesn't show file sizes :/ |
| 20:03 |
Calinou |
in the diff views |
| 20:03 |
Calinou |
would be nice :P |
| 20:03 |
VanessaE |
pngcrush saved 34MB on HDX 512px (jpegoptim saved another 1MB) |
| 20:06 |
Calinou |
nice |
| 20:14 |
thexyz |
there's also pngquant (lossy) |
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| 20:14 |
VanessaE |
ew. |
| 20:15 |
VanessaE |
I should, however, go through my files and see what textures I can re-compress lower setting without appreciable quality loss |
| 20:15 |
VanessaE |
+to a |
| 20:15 |
Calinou |
thexyz, lossy png compression? :phoronix rolleyes: |
| 20:18 |
thexyz |
quite useful |
| 20:18 |
thexyz |
in some cases |
| 20:19 |
Calinou |
unless you need transparency, use jpg |
| 20:19 |
VanessaE |
I do, however, wish there were a way to jpg-compress images that need transparency |
| 20:19 |
thexyz |
don't |
| 20:19 |
thexyz |
pngvsjpg.png |
| 20:19 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 20:19 |
Calinou |
you mean .xcf :) |
| 20:20 |
thexyz |
oh, yes |
| 20:20 |
Calinou |
does lossy compressed png look at least as good as a quality 95 jpeg? what about size? |
| 20:31 |
thexyz |
what's the point of quality 95 jpeg for images with few colors? |
| 20:31 |
Calinou |
in this case, use lossless png |
| 20:31 |
Calinou |
for simple-ish images |
| 20:39 |
thexyz |
well, as i said, it's useful in some cases (for me, at least) |
| 20:39 |
thexyz |
(pngquat, that is) |
| 20:39 |
thexyz |
and yes, I can't spot a difference between png and 95% jpg |
| 20:40 |
thexyz |
dunno about 16×16 tiles though |
| 20:40 |
thexyz |
woo, reactos 0.3.15 |
| 20:46 |
thexyz |
why do you even need it? |
| 20:49 |
Calinou |
^ |
| 20:49 |
Calinou |
no idea what is a initramfs :-D |
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| 20:52 |
Calinou |
says the guy with a prebuild/laptop |
| 20:52 |
Calinou |
also, a linux kernel compile usually takes less than 10 minutes, no? |
| 20:53 |
thexyz |
i once had to compile it using p4 |
| 20:53 |
thexyz |
it sucked |
| 20:54 |
thexyz |
oh, it explains everything |
| 20:54 |
thexyz |
john_minetest: just compile all device drivers in kernel |
| 20:55 |
thexyz |
then there will be no need in initramfs |
| 21:04 |
kaeza |
how long does it take for a server to appear on the list? |
| 21:04 |
kaeza |
*master list |
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VanessaE |
usually it's immediate |
| 21:05 |
kaeza |
hmm |
| 21:05 |
kaeza |
something must be wrong with conf then |
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| 21:05 |
VanessaE |
does your build have cURL? |
| 21:06 |
kaeza |
I believe so... lemme check |
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| 21:06 |
Calinou |
immediate, yeah |
| 21:07 |
Calinou |
kaeza, paste your relevant minetest.conf entries maybe |
| 21:07 |
kaeza |
hmm no CURL... |
| 21:07 |
kaeza |
Calinou, a sec |
| 21:07 |
Calinou |
you need curl |
| 21:07 |
Calinou |
the "gnutls" one is recommended, afaik |
| 21:08 |
kaeza |
I'll recompile |
| 21:08 |
kaeza |
I need to pull latest changes anyway |
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| 21:11 |
kaeza |
well, expect some disconnection |
| 21:12 |
VanessaE |
well I have to admit, pngquant works very well indeed |
| 21:13 |
kaeza |
Calinou, libcurl4-gnutls-dev? |
| 21:14 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, lzip is another great compression program |
| 21:14 |
kaeza |
it can compress files to 0 bytes! |
| 21:14 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 21:14 |
Uberi |
whoa I'm impressed |
| 21:15 |
Calinou |
kaeza, yes, iirc |
| 21:15 |
Calinou |
kaeza, "rm" also compresses files to 0 bytes >:o |
| 21:16 |
Uberi |
in fact you can use it to compress your whole filesystem! |
| 21:16 |
Uberi |
that way you can save massive amounts of disk space |
| 21:16 |
Uberi |
all you have to use is this one simple command |
| 21:16 |
kaeza |
save infinite amounts of money with bandwidth! |
| 21:17 |
kaeza |
</sciencetroll> |
| 21:17 |
Uberi |
that sounds like one expensive ISP |
| 21:18 |
kaeza |
library weighs 123KB, you need to install 6MB of dependencies |
| 21:18 |
kaeza |
*genius* |
| 21:18 |
Calinou |
oppa debian style |
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| 21:21 |
Uberi |
and it doesn't even take that many universe lifespans to do it! |
| 21:22 |
Calinou |
2-6, may be inaccurate |
| 21:23 |
Uberi |
and compression is a lot faster than a lot of known algorithms |
| 21:24 |
Uberi |
https://gist.github.com/Uberi/3334552 |
| 21:24 |
Uberi |
oh sorry wrong channel |
| 21:25 |
kaeza |
that looks like Windows batch files |
| 21:25 |
kaeza |
except with proper loop constructs |
| 21:26 |
Uberi |
its syntax is sort of a mix between the BASICs and the C-families |
| 21:28 |
kaeza |
rediception? |
| 21:37 |
sfan5 |
good night |
| 21:41 |
kaeza |
night sfan |
| 21:41 |
Uberi|AoS |
o/ |
| 21:41 |
kaeza |
success! the server is listed! |
| 21:41 |
kaeza |
bleh |
| 21:41 |
kaeza |
need to change description |
| 21:45 |
VanessaE |
yay \o/ |
| 21:46 |
kaeza |
there, that fixed it |
| 21:46 |
kaeza |
lol: 01:45:18: ACTION[ServerThread]: happy112 attempted to interact with [node under=-5,0,13 above=-5,1,1 |
| 21:46 |
kaeza |
3] without 'interact' privilege |
| 21:47 |
kaeza |
hmm |
| 21:47 |
kaeza |
that 112 sounds familiar |
| 21:47 |
kaeza |
rotor? |
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kaeza |
ehm I'm a bit confused... |
| 21:57 |
kaeza |
what's the most recent WE mod? |
| 21:58 |
Uberi|AoS |
the git version |
| 21:58 |
Uberi|AoS |
it is the only canonical, supported version |
| 21:58 |
kaeza |
I mean, there's one by PA, one by sfan, one by ... |
| 21:58 |
Uberi|AoS |
kaeza: sfan and I work on WE together |
| 21:59 |
kaeza |
ah |
| 21:59 |
Uberi|AoS |
PA's is WE++, and is a reduced-feature-set version |
| 21:59 |
Uberi|AoS |
that also has block queues, which WE didn't have at the time |
| 21:59 |
Uberi|AoS |
it does now, but WE++'s implementation is a bit better |
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kaeza |
hmm |
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Uberi|AoS |
kaeza: if you need more advanced actions like Luatransforms, rotation, trasnposition, primitives, serialization, use WE |
| 22:01 |
Uberi|AoS |
if you want small and simple and fast go with WE++ |
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kaeza |
I just need to copy a structure over to the server |
| 22:02 |
Uberi|AoS |
oh WE++ uses WE's code for that so both should work the same |
| 22:02 |
kaeza |
I cloned your repo anyway :P |
| 22:03 |
Uberi|AoS |
:D |
| 22:03 |
Uberi|AoS |
WE++ also has things like /pause and /resume, which WE doesn't have (yet) |
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Uberi|AoS |
does anyone have profiling data for operations like minetest.set_node? |
| 22:27 |
Uberi|AoS |
as in, so and so milliseconds to set one node, so and so milliseconds to remove one |
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kaeza |
wtf http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92641#p92641 |
| 22:35 |
Uberi|AoS |
well you heard the man |
| 22:36 |
kaeza |
well, I don't even know what that thing is |
| 22:36 |
kaeza |
ASCII art phail |
| 22:38 |
Uberi|AoS |
hmm let's assume my timing numbers that I made up are correct |
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| 22:49 |
sweetbomber |
"ASCII art phail" x2 |
| 22:49 |
sweetbomber |
"Well, let me register in some random forum, and post some random stuff" |
| 22:50 |
sweetbomber |
its his first post... |
| 22:50 |
Uberi|AoS |
maybe it's a lonely astronaut |
| 22:50 |
Uberi|AoS |
maybe it's the Lost Cosmonauts |
| 23:14 |
Uberi|AoS |
hey MinetestBot get to work |
| 23:14 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Block queue doesn't lag anymore on slow operations like digging and placing nodes, better and more efficient //fixlight. f952ee4740 2013-05-30T16:13:21-07:00 http://git.io/9VVsgw |
| 23:14 |
Uberi|AoS |
that's more like it |
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Uberi|AoS |
hey harrison_ |
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| 23:34 |
sweetbomber |
i noticed the option "mgindev_float_islands". are there floating islands being generated right now? |
| 23:35 |
Uberi |
only if enabled |
| 23:35 |
sweetbomber |
curious to see the result :D |
| 23:36 |
sweetbomber |
thats an awesome feature! |
| 23:36 |
VanessaE |
at what elevation are they generated? |
| 23:36 |
Uberi |
it's pretty great yeah |
| 23:36 |
Uberi |
I think that's configurable |
| 23:36 |
VanessaE |
eh, no matter, justrealized that's for indev |
| 23:37 |
sweetbomber |
by default it is set to 500 |
| 23:40 |
sweetbomber |
btw, installed your game, vanessa (the first "game" besides minimal I ever installed, btw) and I heard you have a server, is it whitelisted? |
| 23:40 |
VanessaE |
indeed I have, and it is. |
| 23:40 |
VanessaE |
vanessae.mine.bz:30000 |
| 23:40 |
VanessaE |
whitelisted, node_ownership, rollback, and a real bitch of an admin :) |
| 23:42 |
VanessaE |
(and even with all that, people *still* grief everyso often) |
| 23:43 |
sweetbomber |
eheh |
| 23:43 |
Uberi |
they come from beyond this mortal realm |
| 23:43 |
sweetbomber |
its a shame that people still grief, tough |
| 23:43 |
VanessaE |
yeah, zombies. :) |
| 23:43 |
Uberi |
they feel no fear, no shame |
| 23:43 |
Uberi |
they are... the griefers |
| 23:44 |
sweetbomber |
its a creative server, i presume |
| 23:44 |
VanessaE |
yep |
| 23:44 |
sweetbomber |
altough i see it has some farming plugins |
| 23:44 |
VanessaE |
yep, it has |
| 23:44 |
Uberi |
isn't farming built in now? |
| 23:45 |
VanessaE |
yep, my game has farming_plus |
| 23:45 |
* VanessaE |
grumbles at the C++ mapper. stupid thing can't handle reading from a world that's actually active. |
| 23:45 |
sweetbomber |
i really think minetest has loads of potential |
| 23:46 |
sweetbomber |
one of the ideas i have is to develop an AI engine, but not for mobs |
| 23:46 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: that's partially sqlite's fault for locking it down so tight |
| 23:47 |
sweetbomber |
imagine that we program bots to strive in the game just like regular players |
| 23:47 |
PilzAdam |
kaeza, my WE++ mod is just a proof of concept |
| 23:47 |
sweetbomber |
crafting and looking for food atc... |
| 23:47 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: yeah but the python mapper has no trouble there? |
| 23:47 |
PilzAdam |
its the first mod that uses a queue to perform the commands in on_globalstep() |
| 23:47 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: well...uh...look over there! |
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* Uberi |
walks away |
| 23:48 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 23:48 |
VanessaE |
too bad the C++ one is unmaintained now |
| 23:48 |
VanessaE |
its dozens of times faster than the python one |
| 23:48 |
Uberi |
PilzAdam: are you planning to continue developing it? |
| 23:48 |
PilzAdam |
not really, since the regular WE has it too |
| 23:48 |
Uberi |
eh fair enough |
| 23:48 |
PilzAdam |
I just like to use mine because of the commands |
| 23:49 |
Uberi |
it's a great proof of concept btw |
| 23:49 |
PilzAdam |
btw: diablo 2 is epic |
| 23:50 |
PilzAdam |
a 1080p resolution looks so weird when you played 800x600 for hours |
| 23:55 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, sheep dissapearing bug fixed, update |
| 23:55 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 23:55 |
PilzAdam |
why havent anyone told me that it didnt work at all? |
| 23:55 |
PilzAdam |
I thought it was just some super rare case that is horrible to find |
| 23:56 |
VanessaE |
I don't try to herd them, so I didn't noticed it |
| 23:56 |
Uberi |
I thought they went to the local pub for a quick refresher |
| 23:57 |
* PilzAdam |
increases the "typo in simple mobs commit log" counter by 1 |
| 23:57 |
VanessaE |
-d |
| 23:58 |
sokomine |
yes, typos are maliscious. we might have them as further mobs :-) |
| 23:58 |
sokomine |
would be better than poor sand monsters who havn't done a thing :-) |
| 23:59 |
Uberi |
oh my goodness |
| 23:59 |
Uberi |
that is the best idea I've heard in a while |
| 23:59 |
sokomine |
:-) |
| 23:59 |
Uberi |
"the wild typo is a common beast found in all biomes..." |
| 23:59 |
* sokomine |
nods |
| 23:59 |
sokomine |
they |
| 23:59 |
Uberi |
"...slowly takes over communications channels and introduces various errors" |
| 23:59 |
sokomine |
they're very dangerous and need to be eliminated at all costs! hunt the typos! :-) |
