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00:00 jojoa1997|Tablet i never thought i would see missing dependencies of creative for unified inventory
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00:01 jojoa1997|Tablet i like prestibags mod
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00:01 jojoa1997|Tablet being able to put bag after bag is amazing
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00:03 jojoa1997|Tablet and it has great configurability
00:03 sapier1 [ANNOUNCEMENT] Mobf 2.0.83 prerelease http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=629
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00:04 jojoa1997|Tablet sapier1 keep modding
00:05 jojoa1997|Tablet but maybe horeses and pigs might be fun to add
00:05 sapier :-) pig is on issue list ... it's a little bit to mc-like so priority is low
00:06 sapier horses ... once someone supplies a model this can be added within minutes
00:07 sapier still I need some testers ... either ppl don't know what mobf is able to do or they don't report bugs they found ... or noone uses mobf
00:08 jojoa1997|Tablet i know
00:08 jojoa1997|Tablet i am studying it so i can make mobs
00:08 * jojoa1997|Tablet will test
00:09 sapier if you already study how to do you could write a beginners guide too :-) I'd support you wherever I can
00:10 * Kacey wants to make pong with luacontrollers
00:11 Kacey Uberi, are you interested in helping?
00:11 Uberi Kacey: wow, great idea
00:11 Kacey want to help?
00:11 Uberi if we do it this week it can go into the competition
00:11 Uberi of couse :)
00:11 Uberi I do need to debug my WE fix a bit ore though
00:12 Uberi for soe reason mT keeps crashing
00:12 Kacey idk why
00:12 Kacey i am in the server already
00:12 Kacey !up 67.190.14.129
00:12 MinetestBot 67.190.14.129:30000 is up (0.315ms)
00:12 Uberi no no I ean with y WE code that I' testing
00:13 Kacey M key Uberi lol
00:13 Uberi I need a new keyboard :/
00:13 Kacey lol
00:13 Uberi but I can't find the right kind for this laptop
00:14 Uberi so I wrote an AHK script that rebinds m to Alt-J
00:14 Uberi as well as all the other keys that broke together with m
00:15 Uberi for exaple, I now press Alt ' to press Enter
00:15 Kacey lol wow
00:15 jojoa1997|Tablet has anyone made a wrking shift+click stack transfer in inventory
00:16 VanessaE jeez Uberi, time to buy a new keyboard :)
00:16 Uberi yeah yeah I know
00:16 Uberi this one has lasted 2 years of continuous pounding
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00:17 Uberi oh just noticed the right shift key isn't working either
00:17 VanessaE I usually don't get more than a couple years out of a keyboard before I destroy it by spilling something on it :-)
00:18 Kacey lol
00:18 Kacey my keyboards last as long as a nokia
00:19 arsdragonfly VanessaE :how to put a map on a website with scales around it?
00:19 jojoa1997|Tablet so
00:20 jojoa1997|Tablet has anyone thought of making cactus nodeboxes?
00:20 StrayBytes So a rectangular prism and tons of needles?
00:20 * StrayBytes watches his GPUs melt
00:20 Uberi ugh access violations galore
00:21 Kacey ?
00:21 VanessaE arsdragonfly: the --drawscale parameter of minetest mapper
00:21 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaTYwNQ/screenshot_353750700.png big enough display?
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00:22 jojoa1997|Tablet NO
00:22 arsdragonfly VanessaE: thanks
00:22 Uberi I'll take a look in a bit Kacey but that looks pretty good
00:22 Uberi I know where the bug is at least
00:22 jojoa1997|Tablet 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999x9999999999999999999999999999999999^9999999999999999999999999999999990 bigger
00:23 * Uberi wrote the ugliest nested table parser in existance
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00:24 * VanessaE grumbles that someone altered the signs near her server's spawn,.
00:24 Uberi hah, whaddya know, it works!
00:24 VanessaE -,
00:24 Uberi VanessaE: locked_signs
00:24 Uberi also if you used WorldEdit and it crashed on huge files, this should no longer be the case
00:25 VanessaE Uberi: I need a locked signs update to homedecor.  interested? :D
00:25 Uberi I wish I could, but my todo list for today is only halfway done :P
00:26 Uberi and I still have to figure out how to make MATLAB stop showing those irritating graphs
00:26 Kacey just occured to me.... how will we control this?
00:26 Uberi Kacey: pressure plates!
00:26 Kacey O.o
00:26 Kacey lol ok
00:27 Uberi we can make a D-pad, basically
00:27 Kacey afk
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00:28 Uberi I wonder if MinetestBot watches the WE repo
00:29 Kacey back
00:29 jojoa1997|Tablet good doggy
00:29 jojoa1997|Tablet come get pettings while i hold a chip
00:29 * jojoa1997|Tablet hehehe
00:29 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Horrible, vile, disgusting hack. But it works. f5145d6ba1 2013-04-20T17:28:21-07:00 http://git.io/x27OJg
00:29 jojoa1997|Tablet >:-]
00:29 Uberi wooot
00:30 VanessaE HAH!
00:30 Uberi OK, let's do this Kacey
00:30 VanessaE ok I'll bote
00:30 VanessaE bite*
00:30 VanessaE er, nevermind
00:30 * jojoa1997|Tablet gives a cactus a hug
00:30 jojoa1997|Tablet in minecraft and minetest
00:31 * jojoa1997|Tablet punches minecraft cactus back
00:31 Uberi Kacey: btw I won't type very much because of my keyboard
00:31 Kacey lol
00:32 Kacey well server is up, and i will leaveit up while i go eat
00:32 Uberi sure thing
00:33 Kacey !up 67.190.14.129
00:33 MinetestBot 67.190.14.129:30000 is up (0.365ms)
00:34 Uberi oh snap I have to reschedule another meeting
00:34 Uberi Kacey: having trouble connecting
00:34 Kacey how so?
00:35 Uberi stays on Connecting to server screen
00:35 Kacey might take a bit...
00:37 Kacey i have an ok internet connection
00:38 Uberi still connecting
00:38 ShadowNinja Uberi: that should only take a second, try reconnecting
00:39 Uberi sae deal...
00:40 Uberi it was a lot better earlier though
00:41 Kacey you want to host the server?
00:42 Kacey ShadowNinja is on
00:42 Uberi all things considered, I think my connection might be worse
00:42 * Xenorax loves his servers.
00:42 Uberi still stuck at that screen
00:42 Kacey afk
00:42 Uberi aybe y IP is wrong
00:42 Uberi ah the IP changed!
00:43 Uberi no wonder
00:43 Xenorax I should learn lua or C++ or whatever so I can put Doom stuff into Minetest. That'd be interesting.
00:43 Uberi I'll just load the ridiculously large aount of blocks now
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00:44 Xenorax So, question, is there a way to make a dedicated server in Minetest?
00:48 VanessaE Uberi: re mesecons selection boxes, let's not make them too big, one still wants to be able to select the ground under the wire now and then
00:48 VanessaE (which is impossible in a lot of cases already)
00:49 Uberi VanessaE: already ipossible with the current ones though
00:49 Uberi I just ade the a bit taller is all
00:49 VanessaE yes, I just said that :)
00:49 Uberi aybe a bit less wide?
00:49 VanessaE I think the selectboxes need to be sized so that they're just a little larger than the wire they surround
00:49 VanessaE take a look at pipeworks, see how I did it there?
00:50 VanessaE same concept.
00:51 Uberi yeah
00:51 kaeza interesting: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_676809978.jpg
00:51 Uberi I like the pipe selection boxes, very playable
00:52 Kacey back up
00:52 Uberi OK
00:52 VanessaE if a wire has a cross-section of 2x1 pixels (relative to the 16px default), the select box should probably be 6x3 pixels, bottom-justified.
00:52 kaeza note: the map blocks were generated again, and as you see it did not replace the enturety of nodes
00:52 kaeza -u+i
00:52 Uberi so 3x bigger then?
00:53 VanessaE yeah
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00:53 Uberi hmm I also need to plan my bus route for monday
00:54 kaeza Xenorax, +1 and yes
00:54 VanessaE Uberi: easy.  1.  Dig through piggy bank for bus fare.  2.  get on bus and pay fare.  3. ride bus.  4. get off bus.  :D
00:54 Xenorax I see.
00:54 * VanessaE hides
00:55 Uberi step 5: accidentally take the West bus instead of the East one and travel in the wrong direction for 4 hours
00:55 VanessaE (just playing.  been a while since I used public transport)
00:55 kaeza Xenorax, you must forward the port you'll be using for the server (if required) and start:
00:55 Uberi :P
00:55 Uberi Kacey: can you uninstall whatever is aking these 23 pages of icroblocks
00:55 kaeza minetest --server --world /path/to/world --gameid my_game
00:55 Jordach Uberi, thats morebollocks
00:55 Kacey moreblocks?
00:55 VanessaE 23 pages of microblocks?  update your copy of moreblocks.
00:56 VanessaE it puts everything through circular saw now.
00:56 Uberi aybe, but it's aking the creative inventory really hard to use
00:56 VanessaE no more bloated inventories.
00:56 Xenorax I know about the port forwarding, and I don't need to do that.
00:56 VanessaE Kacey: ^^^^
00:56 Jordach minetest.register_alias("moreblocks", "morebollocks")
00:56 Kacey ... ok i am going to update
00:56 Uberi ah finally found the screwdriver
00:56 Xenorax I've been hosting a server for a while. Just wondering if it was possible to host a dedicated server. So thanks for that answer.
00:58 kaeza !up kaeza.no-ip.org
00:58 MinetestBot kaeza.no-ip.org:30000 is up (0.243ms)
00:58 VanessaE Kacey: on my server, I dropped from 34 pages to 19 when I got my copy of moreblocks up to that point + updated some of my mods to use the circular saw
00:58 kaeza YAY it's still up!
00:59 VanessaE and that's 34 pages in Unified Inventory!
00:59 Xenorax Aw, when I play, I'm only up to 22 pages.
00:59 Xenorax I feel inferior.
00:59 Uberi heheheh
01:00 Uberi I have just esecons and worldedit in ost worlds
01:00 kaeza add unified* and coloredwoods :D
01:01 Uberi considering turning off ite visual preloading
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01:19 khonkhortisan what's recommended for making maps?
01:20 Uberi inventory maps?
01:20 khonkhortisan VanessaE, about the doors in homedecor: you shouldn't need both a left-hand and right-hand image, because of ^[transformFX
01:20 khonkhortisan world map
01:20 Uberi WorldEdit + patience
01:20 khonkhortisan ?
01:20 Jordach khonkhortisan, minetestmapper.py
01:20 khonkhortisan okay
01:20 Uberi oh image maps
01:20 khonkhortisan yeah
01:21 VanessaE khonkhortisan:  they're needed because the models have to be flipped as well.
01:21 VanessaE ^[transform only flips/rotates textures, but there's no "flip X/Z" function for nodeboxes.
01:21 Jordach VanessaE, look at the default doors
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01:23 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix pressure plate wield image. 1a5b1b4691 2013-04-20T18:22:43-07:00 http://git.io/tV-D3A
01:23 khonkhortisan That's what I'm talking about, the textures.
01:24 Uberi gonna go eat now
01:25 khonkhortisan minetestmapper with a single argument should assume it's the world path
01:39 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPokkuX_jjk would it be possible to make one of these?
01:39 kaeza time to go. good night all
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01:46 Jordach well i been thinking
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01:47 Kacey O.o
01:47 Kacey Jordach... Thinking? IMPOSSIBRU!
01:47 Jordach its the devil and angel problem
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01:48 Jordach everytime i consider re-engaging my dead facebook account, i somehow find a way to find anti reason
01:49 sokomine are there truly any reasons to have a facebook account?
01:50 Exio yes, facebook is cool
01:50 Exio and because it is cool(tm) we all need to use it
01:51 Jordach im currently the man in the middle
01:51 Jordach the current reason is to catch up with various people, this might include minetesters
01:51 Jordach but thats the ony main reason
01:51 Jordach :/
01:53 mauvebic i wanted to close my facebook until family started adding me, now it would just look rude
01:53 Jordach mauvebic, family is a bitch
01:54 VanessaE only reason I have a facebook account is so no one else can pretend to be me, and to occasionally comment on news articles.
01:55 Jordach VanessaE, with your second name, nobody could spell it right first time
01:55 Jordach imo, i cant even do so right now :P
01:56 VanessaE Jordach: you shoulda seen it before Abe's parents changed it from the original Polish spelling.
01:56 * Jordach drops bricks
01:56 VanessaE Ejzykowicz.
01:56 VanessaE (eye zah koh vitch)
01:57 Jordach at least RBA would be happy
01:57 mauvebic lol
01:57 Jordach VanessaE, that's the best spam prevention ever
01:57 VanessaE hehe
01:57 VanessaE if only that were true.
01:57 Jordach you have one try.
01:57 Jordach and you must type it
01:58 mauvebic i use several names, best spam filter ever lol
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01:58 Jordach forgot i had this: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?o96iy9b9ld9bqtf
01:59 mauvebic that and i havent spoken to my father in ten years, so i have an interest in not being easily found
01:59 Jordach it's a music track for minetest i made a year ago
01:59 Jordach (1yr, 3months)
01:59 Uberi hey Kacey is the server still up?
01:59 Uberi whoa my enter key works again
01:59 Kacey yep
01:59 Uberi \o/
01:59 VanessaE Uberi: yay!
02:00 Jordach Uberi, you may now enter
02:00 Jordach <pun>
02:00 Uberi so does m,.?
02:00 Uberi *groan*
02:00 Jordach its 3am here
02:00 Jordach leave me alone
02:00 Uberi mmmmmmmmmmmm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,................................
02:00 Uberi Kacey: did the IP change again?
02:00 * Jordach has only been up 15hours
02:00 Kacey no
02:01 Uberi can you post it? I am having trouble connecting again :/
02:01 Kacey !up 67.190.14.129
02:01 MinetestBot 67.190.14.129:30000 is up (0.307ms)
02:01 VanessaE dafuq!?
02:01 Uberi oh there we go
02:01 Jordach thats what she said
02:01 Uberi I guess there's a loose contact in my keyboard matrix
02:01 * Jordach grins
02:02 * Uberi avoids groaning this time
02:02 VanessaE Uberi: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2004202013%20-%2010:01:49%20PM.png
02:02 VanessaE um, help?
02:02 VanessaE that's a pipeworks storage tank in my hand, but look at the inventory image - it's a pressure plate there and in-world.
02:02 Uberi VanessaE: git pull!
02:03 Uberi I fixed that before dinner
02:03 VanessaE haha
02:03 VanessaE how did it happen?
02:03 Uberi aw no enter key is acting up again
02:03 VanessaE dare I ask :D
02:03 Jordach have you tried turning it off and on again
02:03 Uberi well it used image which was supposed to be a parameter
02:03 Uberi but wasn't actually a paraeter
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02:03 Uberi sigh stupid keyboard
02:03 VanessaE oops heh
02:03 Kacey lol
02:04 * Kacey hands Uberi a new keyboard
02:04 Jordach they cost like 10$ ITS PRETTY cheap
02:04 Uberi there goes the right side again
02:04 Uberi Jordach: not laptop keyboards :P
02:04 Jordach lol
02:04 Jordach muahahahahahaha
02:04 Jordach for i use a tower
02:04 Jordach and are invincible to shitty hardware
02:04 Jordach on laptops
02:05 Uberi I used to use a tower
02:05 Uberi but it wouldn't fit in y backpack see
02:05 Jordach well theres your problem
02:05 VanessaE What I was about to do was tell you pressure plates aren't opening locked doors anymore if I don't own the door
02:06 Uberi oh that ight be a proble
02:06 Uberi Jordach: neither would the 3 car baterries I need to power it while on the go :P
02:06 VanessaE (I hadn't seen that weilditem bug until just now)
02:08 * Jordach should really goto sleep
02:08 Jordach my puns go Calinou quality when im tired
02:08 khonkhortisan minetestmapper needs to be told what color each node is. I have a mod that converts all nodes to single pixel textures. Hmmmmmmmm.........
02:08 VanessaE hm.  I should re-texture these pressure plates for HDX.  they're just bad now :)
02:08 VanessaE (ditto the pistons)
02:08 Jordach VanessaE, hdx was bad anyways
02:08 Jordach :P
02:09 VanessaE Jordach: seen my latest tweak to the splash? :-)
02:09 Jordach fuck no
02:09 Jordach i dont have the ram to run it!
02:09 VanessaE Jordach: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2004202013%20-%2010:09:26%20PM.png
02:09 VanessaE lower right corner.
02:10 Jordach meh
02:10 VanessaE (the red highlight box moves further left to show blurrier parts of the logo depending on which pack rez you are using)
02:10 Jordach thats pointless
02:10 VanessaE it's eye candy :)
02:11 Jordach minetest.register_alias("it's eye candy", "pointless crap that we dont need.")
02:12 VanessaE minetest.register_alias("hdx was bad anyways", "I'm too cheap/poor/stubborn to buy more RAM, so I'll dis hdx instead.")
02:12 Uberi hahaha
02:13 Jordach VanessaE, even 128x is laggy for most people
02:13 VanessaE Jordach: lag != low fps
02:13 Jordach we dont have gaming rigs like you and Calinou
02:13 Jordach we have second hand hardware
02:13 hmmmm my computer has a 4mb Rage XL as a video card 8)
02:13 Jordach oh fuck e
02:13 Jordach me*
02:14 Jordach VESA ALARM
02:14 hmmmm ...and a Xeon e3-1230v2 for the processor
02:14 VanessaE lol
02:14 Jordach hmmmm, i'd go with intel hd graphics on this one
02:14 Jordach anyways, im fucking shattered
02:14 Jordach laters
02:14 hmmmm using the intel integrated graphics would've been a bad move, price efficiency-wise
02:14 khonkhortisan I see lens flare
02:15 hmmmm in order to get what i wanted, i'd have to get the i7-3770, which would've been $60 more
02:15 hmmmm for that $60 i could've gotten a better video card
02:15 hmmmm and i'd still be missing VT-x support
02:15 VanessaE khonkhortisan: fake lens flare, because it looks nice in that image :)
02:17 khonkhortisan but it's a circle on a square sun
02:17 khonkhortisan that's a good picture
02:17 VanessaE well if someone would fucking make the sun texturable, it would be ROUND :)
02:17 khonkhortisan Is the sky texturable?
02:17 VanessaE (besides, even square lights can cause round lens flare if it's distant enough)
02:17 VanessaE no, it is not.
02:18 VanessaE that feature was removed sometime early in the 0.4.x cycle.
02:18 khonkhortisan aw
02:18 VanessaE (formerly "skyboxes")
02:20 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaTYxNA/screenshot_360869524.png haha perfect timing
02:20 VanessaE pong?
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02:21 Kacey getting there lol
02:21 VanessaE neat
02:21 Kacey got scoreboard programmed
02:21 Uberi keep screenshotting Kacey
02:21 hmmmm i want to bring back texturable skys as an option someday
02:21 Uberi I always forget to
02:21 Kacey and i got a well timed screenie out of it
02:21 VanessaE hmmmm: G*d please do
02:30 Uberi bye everyone
02:30 sokomine ah! talk about that integrated grapics...i'm still unsure what to buy myshelf. upgrading does make sense due to power consumption and new interfaces alone
02:31 harrison rasterization is soon to be deprecated anyway ...
02:32 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RIfvpD1DCQ
02:32 harrison realtime software (cpu) tracing will crush it
02:33 VanessaE never gonna happen.
02:34 VanessaE CPUs can't keep up with GPUs at that kind of task.
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02:34 VanessaE besides, an image still has to be rasterized to be displayed.
02:34 harrison trivially, yes
02:35 harrison however, the opengl model of 4x4 matrix transformed triangles projected on an image plane is what i was referring to
02:36 harrison as you certainly knew before, during and after you typed your snarky comment
02:36 harrison VanessaE: I feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop
02:36 VanessaE opengl may die some day, but you'll never get a GPu to keep up with a GPU at a math-intensive task as graphics.
02:36 VanessaE actions?
02:36 VanessaE o.O
02:39 harrison coded a raytracer yourself have you? a GPU tracer i take it?
02:39 harrison Is there a repo?
02:39 VanessaE of course not.
02:39 VanessaE have YOU?
02:39 harrison Are you not paying attention then?
02:40 harrison Of course.
02:40 harrison That's why I have been spamming IRC channels with youtube films like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3EwouS5ro0&amp;feature=youtu.be
02:41 harrison You think I would promote someone else's work?
02:41 harrison Um.....
02:41 VanessaE you think I've even *seen* this video?
02:41 harrison No.
02:41 VanessaE I'm not on a lot of IRC channels.
02:41 harrison I get that.
02:42 harrison Why would I ask "coded a raytracer yourself have you?" without being able to answer your obvious followup question as I did?
02:43 [0gb_us] VanessaE: You said a GPu is slower than a GPU. What is a GPu, with thte lower case "u"?
02:43 VanessaE and for the record, that video shows nothing I haven't already seen e.g. in the PC and Amiga demo communities in the past.  It looks okay (horrible quality video capture aside), but that doesn't mean it's scalable to something along the lines of a full, arbitrary-world game like MT or so.
02:43 harrison Surely you must be somewhat familiar with ordinary discourse and its tropes?
02:43 VanessaE [0gb_us]: I meant CPU is slower than GPU.  my typing sucks.
02:43 harrison I get that.
02:44 [0gb_us] harrison: There are a lot of idiots out there. Most people are idiots, in fact. VanessaE had no way to know you weren't another idiot who was asking about raytracers without coding one yourself.
02:45 harrison Assuming that strangers on IRC are idiots is a luxury only a genius may permit himself.
02:46 VanessaE hah
02:46 VanessaE I've seen more than a few complete morons on IRC in the last 18 years using it.
02:47 VanessaE enough to easily outnumber the intelligent folks if they stuck around long enough to be counted.
02:47 drizz in other words; the fewer words you speak, the wiser you seem
02:47 drizz :p
02:48 harrison CYGNUS INTER ANATES
02:48 VanessaE eh?
02:50 VanessaE anyway its impossible for CPU-bound raytracing or any other kind of general graphics work to outperform a GPU (assuming the latest release of each in a given year) for one simple reason:  CPUs are made to execute general-purpose code that can do everything nicely, but GPUs are designed from the ground up to do one thing and do it well, and that's graphics processing.
02:51 VanessaE it's like saying a good GPU bitcoin miner could compete with an FPGA solution.  This is of course untrue.
02:52 * [0gb_us] knows little about hardware, but that sounds like what he would assume to be true
02:53 VanessaE or that guy who keeps spamming the web about how homebrew computing is dying and how HTML5 + javascript will take over everything and how Lua is a dead end and how C++ et.al will soon be ruled illegal except in the hands of a big savior corporation, and how microsoft/google/etc etc are going to turn this into a one-platform field, and blah blahblahblahblahblah
02:53 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaTYxbA/screenshot_362853241.png lol POng!!!!!!!
02:53 VanessaE Kacey: hehe
02:54 Kacey we would be done with it if we put the time we have spent decorating it to coding it
02:54 [0gb_us] If one group manages to take over, I'm certain it won't be Microsoft. They may always have the popular vote, but there are those of us that have enough sense to not use Microsoft products because of their inferiority.
02:55 sokomine i'd be glad if my card could run mt better...even with a new computer, if i go by other hardware requirements (apart from mt and mc), a celeron with intel hd grapics might not be much of an improvement while otherwise more than sufficient, while an i3 or i5 might manage even mc - but barely and for much higher costs
02:55 sokomine and cards consume additional power, so...
02:55 Kacey night all
02:55 sokomine at least with mt it's less of a problem :-)
02:57 sokomine currently, (computer related) news here seems to focus on how the pc is about to die due to all those tablets
02:57 drizz I just hope this whole HTML-in-everything fad is going to die
02:58 VanessaE drizz: most likely it will
02:58 drizz sokomine: that's just silly
02:58 VanessaE CPU speed is nearly at the limit now, and interpreted crap like HTML stands no chance against compiled languages like C or, hell, even Lua would be faster.
02:59 VanessaE the world will have no choice but to re-learn what we all knew in the 80's:  how to right shit-hot-fast code (whatever the language)
02:59 VanessaE right!?
02:59 VanessaE *facepalm*
02:59 VanessaE WRITE.
02:59 drizz one can hope
03:00 sokomine drizz: it's just something that gets quoted here a lot. i don't think it's true either. tablets may be good for consuming content - as long as you don't want to type or work with them for a long time....
03:00 drizz although I don't think we'll see people start using bit-shifting in order to optimize math operations again :p
03:00 Exio :(
03:00 VanessaE drizz: same reason we moved to allowing using LuaJIT - to make the software run faster on the same hardware.
03:00 VanessaE maybe not :-/
03:00 Exio irrlicht doesn't resize images (with draw2Dimage)
03:00 VanessaE but then, assembly is nearly a lost art to begin with
03:01 VanessaE Exio: look at how the menu splash and menu footer are done.  those are scaled.
03:01 Exio hm k
03:02 ShadowNinja Exio: What are you writing?
03:02 drizz I learned vedic math yesterday
03:02 drizz that shit blew my mind
03:02 VanessaE please let it be texturable sun/moon/sky :D
03:02 drizz http://www.wimp.com/vedicmath/
03:03 sokomine languages come and go. for some purposes, html5/javascript are useful. for other special situations, assembler may still be the best choice
03:03 Exio ShadowNinja: fall-based crosshair size
03:03 Exio like any FPS game
03:03 Exio even if MT isn't one
03:03 * [0gb_us] hopes tablets are just a phase, or at least will not replace real computers. THough he does like laptop technology.
03:03 VanessaE Exio: fall-based?
03:03 VanessaE you mean like distance based to target?
03:04 sokomine laptops are fine, yes
03:04 VanessaE [0gb_us]: they won't replace them for anything really productive, but I hope they stick around.  They do have their uses.
03:04 Exio VanessaE: when you fall, or jump or so, the crosshair size is changed, in FPSs, for showing how "perfect" is your aim (small crosshair -> "less spread")
03:04 Exio and when you are jumping, or falling, or in the air or whatever not walking, it is bigger
03:04 VanessaE Exio: interesting.  been a while since I played a fps, and then it was only openarena :)
03:04 Exio (and i would like to make it that way when running, too)
03:05 drizz owning a tablet is just yet another excuse not to get out of bed :p
03:05 Exio i'm talking about RE, Xonotic and UrT
03:05 Exio no idea about other FPSs
03:06 drizz no love for warsow? :<
03:06 VanessaE drizz: haha
03:06 [0gb_us] Tablets seem like something that are highly helpful to the masses, but not helpful to me. As long as I can continue on my laptop, tablets seem like a great option for others.
03:06 [0gb_us] I need a full computer though.
03:07 sokomine same here
03:07 VanessaE ditto
03:15 jordan4ibanez Oh my gosh
03:15 jordan4ibanez Oh
03:15 jordan4ibanez My
03:15 jordan4ibanez Gosh
03:15 jordan4ibanez I think I just found a resonable answer to cornernote http://i.imgur.com/IY64N0c.jpg
03:17 [0gb_us] Hmm.
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03:17 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: haha
03:17 [0gb_us] I don't think Cornernote even agrees with what he posted anyway, he just wanted to get banned.
03:18 [0gb_us] Since they wouldn't ban him willingly, he did what he had to to force their hands.
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03:18 jordan4ibanez Too much politics for me baby
03:18 jordan4ibanez Is this what happened to kahrl? http://i.imgur.com/LgljjLP.gif
03:19 Exio :D
03:19 Exio i have no faking idea what is different
03:19 Exio between the copied code and the one what was working before
03:19 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: um, kahrl is in -dev.
03:19 hmmmm I guess karhl left because he got a job or something
03:19 hmmmm he just left vanessa
03:19 VanessaE he was just chatting earlier.
03:19 VanessaE oh yeah
03:19 hmmmm that
03:19 VanessaE well anyway, it wasn't a job.
03:20 hmmmm is probably going to be me soon when i get a job
03:20 jordan4ibanez Oh nice, I missed kahrl
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03:20 hmmmm but it's all good because a substantial amount of the minetest community hates me
03:20 VanessaE Dec 31 2012 22:31:38 <kahrl>    well, I disappeared in april
03:20 VanessaE Dec 31 2012 22:31:53 <kahrl>    at that time I went on vacation in italy
03:20 VanessaE Dec 31 2012 22:32:23 <kahrl>    thought the hotel had internet access but in fact it had just a crappy wifi
03:20 VanessaE he goes on a bit
03:20 VanessaE Dec 31 2012 22:33:53 <kahrl>    so I took a short break from minetest
03:20 VanessaE Dec 31 2012 22:34:01 <kahrl>    that short break turned into a long break ;)
03:21 sdzen why do they hate ya hmmmm?
03:21 hmmmm because i'm not a yes man
03:21 VanessaE hmmmm: no one hates you, there's just a few smegheads out there who choose the wrong words out of need to vent.
03:21 sdzen neither is pilzadam
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03:22 jordan4ibanez me, sdzen, and mauvebic are whateverthefudge we want mans
03:23 sdzen pilzadam is just abit OCD about pull requests
03:23 sdzen :)
03:23 mauvebic sorry my husband is out to sleep guys
03:23 VanessaE sdzen: slightly perhaps :D
03:24 mauvebic and I'm not really up to date in your debate
03:24 jordan4ibanez Well then here have this http://imgur.com/gallery/XwVkAuS
03:25 Exio well, the code now works
03:25 Exio thanks VanessaE
03:26 VanessaE what'd I do? :)
03:26 Exio [00:01:16] <VanessaE> Exio: look at how the menu splash and menu footer are done.  those are scaled.
03:26 VanessaE oh heh
03:27 Exio hm
03:29 [0gb_us] Yeah. PilzAdam gets on my nerves, but I don't hate him.
03:29 VanessaE neither do I
03:29 VanessaE we just have differences of opinion
03:29 sdzen he's cool...
03:29 sdzen ish
03:30 sokomine he has done some nice mods
03:30 Exio we need to hate someone :(
03:30 * Exio now hates VanessaE
03:30 VanessaE aw :'(
03:31 sokomine ah yes...and i ought to remember to convince sdzen and pilzadam to put that sandstone texture sdzen has into the main game
03:31 * sdzen now hates MinetestBot
03:31 sokomine if you want to hate someone, how about a bot? they could be useful there
03:31 sokomine exactly!
03:31 [0gb_us] I don't hate any people. But if hating a thing is suitable, I think many people on this channel can tell you what I direct my hatred toward.
03:31 sdzen minetestbot doesn't count as people
03:32 sdzen its property :)
03:32 * VanessaE feels hated. :(
03:32 sdzen it has no rights, yet
03:32 [0gb_us] Aw. VanessaE left.
03:32 khonkhortisan It just so happens I just saw bot hate on the pawn stars tv show
03:33 sokomine as long as the bots don't demand more rights...
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03:33 sokomine :-)
03:33 Exio aww
03:33 * [0gb_us] doesn't hate you, VanessaE.
03:34 VanessaE :P
03:34 khonkhortisan Without looking at the log, how many things were said in your absense?
03:35 sdzen sokomine: don't worry, this generation of slaves will never rebel.
03:35 VanessaE no clue :)
03:35 khonkhortisan take a guess
03:35 [0gb_us] You missed it because I said it on another channel, but I said yesterday that some of the nicest people use creative mode, and listed you and ShadowNinja as examples.
03:35 VanessaE probably zero :D
03:35 sokomine btw, 0.4.6 seems to have gained very much regarding stability. crashes got very rare, and f10 can be used effectively to look at the chat without fear of crash
03:35 khonkhortisan 4
03:35 khonkhortisan rare? I count failed debug tests as a crash if it keeps me from my game
03:36 sokomine there are a lot of nice people in "survival" mode as well :-)
03:36 sdzen not I said the spider on hardmode
03:37 sokomine it still crashes sometimes. just way less than previous versions. there was a huge problem with f10. that no longer is the case - and that's great :-)
03:37 khonkhortisan oh good, I haven't noticed
03:37 [0gb_us] I think there are a lot of nice people in both, but the nicest and most generous use use creative.
03:38 [0gb_us] THat said, I'm not one that uses creative ....
03:38 sokomine both servers have some very good builds
03:39 [0gb_us] True, but I was talking about people, not buildings.
03:39 hmmmm [11:35 PM] <sokomine> btw, 0.4.6 seems to have gained very much regarding stability. crashes got very rare, and f10 can be used effectively to look at the chat without fear of crash    that's funny, because we did nothing related to the F10 bug
03:40 [0gb_us] THat is funny, but I've noticed the same thing. I no longer have to avoid F10, which used to crash my client at least half the time.
03:41 sokomine hmm: strange. in previous versions, pressing f10 was always very risky and seldom worked. now it is much more stable. also after connecting, the game sometimes crashed several times in a series. that all got better. i didn't change anything else. maybe it's a positive side effect
03:41 jojoa1997|Tablet Wow this is worse than the religion topic. Glad I stayed out http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5683&amp;p=2
03:41 [0gb_us] Maybe one of the other memory leak fixes.
03:41 sokomine could well be
03:43 jojoa1997|Tablet If I name a modpack 00_load would all the mods load firat
03:43 jojoa1997|Tablet First
03:43 [0gb_us] It could even be that enough memory leaked that F10 sent it over the edge. Maybe the F10 bug is still there, but now dormant.
03:43 sokomine 0gb: yes, people and building quality are seperate aspects. maybe the creative mode filters out some players who enjoy other style of gameplay...or it's just coincidence
03:44 sokomine more stability is certainly good
03:44 [0gb_us] I think it's a personality thing. The more pleasant and laid back people don't need the shackles placed on them by survival mode.
03:44 * [0gb_us] wishes he could be one of the creative mode people
03:45 sokomine if changing chunks regardless of their load status would work to facilitate larger structures spawning...that would be another fine aspect :-)
03:45 jojoa1997|Tablet Is this about switchable modes
03:46 [0gb_us] No, it's not.
03:46 sokomine hmm. the differences are small in mt...
03:46 [0gb_us] It's about who prefers what mode.
03:46 jojoa1997|Tablet I prefer survival till I get bored or dostrated
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03:46 jojoa1997|Tablet Diatracted
03:47 sokomine creative just isn't that much more helpful when building something. for really large structures, worldedit is helpful...
03:47 jojoa1997|Tablet Then i mod/creative/test
03:47 sokomine :-)
03:47 jojoa1997|Tablet But mainly adventure maps or TNT on minecraft
03:47 sokomine tnt? hm
03:47 jojoa1997|Tablet Favorite set up is
03:47 sokomine if you like it...
03:48 [0gb_us] When we can pull unlimited amounts of goods from the menu, goods become worthless. I need reacquiring goods to take effort, so the goods themselves can have value. I guess this is a reflection of my greed.
03:48 jojoa1997|Tablet Fast redatone repeater to fire arrows and mobs
03:48 sokomine arn't goods in effect worthless in survival as well? after the initial shortness of some ores?
03:48 VanessaE who needs repeaters?  use a microcontroller for that.
03:49 [0gb_us] Not really worthless, as they are a show of the effort you've put in so far.
03:49 sokomine hm. those minecraft-spawn-and-killing-machines? i've seen videos about them
03:50 Exio he is talking about MC
03:50 [0gb_us] I almost filled two chests with iron, but it took a few months to do so.
03:50 Exio the only thing of why i still play MC are: * survival, * survival, and ehm, * survival
03:50 Exio nothing more :)
03:51 sokomine hm, yes...and how valuable are they to you once you've filled the chests? it's sometimes fun to dig all that up...but difficult to actually get it used
03:51 sokomine (at least for me. i'm very slow at building)
03:51 jojoa1997|Tablet I wish sphax had one mega download
03:52 * sokomine pushes some aggressive npc over to exio
03:53 Exio oh, i missed client-side prediction, too
03:53 sokomine i'd like to visit the survival server of the mc classic server i sometimes play on...just to do some sightseeing and look what the people i know from classic did build there. the mobs would be very annoying
03:53 sokomine client-side prediction? what does the client predict?
03:53 Exio sokomine: the common example, doors and buckets
03:54 Exio you press right click
03:54 Exio insta "open", then it waits for the server response
03:54 sokomine hm. so that the client knows that a door can be opened and does it right away?
03:54 sokomine ah
03:54 sokomine sounds good, yes
03:54 Exio (in the meantime, you can walk like it was opened)
03:55 Exio if the server says no, it just "pushes the players back" [anticheat?]
03:55 [0gb_us] It never gets used, because to use it up would mean using up its value.
03:55 sokomine doesn't that work with normal blocks? those are predicted by the client as well (and sometimes the server believes otherwise and lets blocks reappear)
03:56 Exio sokomine: it is for like most blocks, i mean, when you craft something you can "craft" it
03:56 Exio and have it in your inv
03:56 sokomine ah
03:56 Exio even if the server still didn't get it!
03:56 sokomine yes, that would be nice
03:56 Exio and smaller things like those
03:57 Exio they make the gameplay smoother for multiplayer games :P
03:58 sokomine perhaps. at least with the right hardware :-/ mt seems much smoother to me than mc (classic) most of the time
03:59 sokomine can't say anything about the survival version
04:00 Exio sokomine: it helps even more with the "non-proper" hardware
04:00 Exio i have no idea about classic
04:00 Exio but with minecraft 1.2.5-1.5.1, the gameplay was pretty smoother even with less than 20 FPS
04:01 Exio because the "network latency" was nearly none until you have the world/mc chunks loaded
04:02 sokomine the survival version (i believe 1.3.2 or something like that...was a test-version) worked on short or tiny and with non-transparent leaves. that wasn't much fun. what was smoother when i tested it was the showing-up of the world - there was no waiting for chunks to load (it was singleplayer)
04:02 sokomine maybe the grapics hardware is just too much at the border and one frame more ore less makes too much of a difference there. i don't know
04:03 sokomine until i forget it...how about the swamps mod? is there some way to improve the speed of that? id would be a great addition and make the mt world even nicer
04:04 Exio damn, i hate overloaded functions
04:04 Exio sokomine: the mapgen v7
04:04 Exio if it is what i think
04:04 [0gb_us] Exio: Java overloaded functions?
04:04 [0gb_us] Yeah, those are a pain.
04:04 Exio no, C++
04:05 [0gb_us] I don't know C++ yet, so I'll take your word for it.
04:05 Exio everywhere, really
04:06 sokomine will it come with mapgen v7? or will that mapgen have a very helpful functionality?
04:07 [0gb_us] Do you know if C has overloading?
04:07 Exio it doesn't
04:07 [0gb_us] Awesome. I'll stick with C then.
04:07 Exio sokomine: mapgen v7 => easy to define biomes and that stuff :P
04:08 Exio [0gb_us]: haha, try C++ anyway
04:08 * [0gb_us] will define 256 biomes to compete for land
04:08 sokomine let's hope that it will come fast then :_)
04:09 [0gb_us] I'll learn C++ at some point, but I want to learn a non-frustrating language and build my own game first.
04:10 VanessaE damn, I guess uberi already signed off. :-/
04:13 [0gb_us] I'm going to start with some lame text-based games while I learn. Like an unwinnable tic-tac-toe game.
04:13 Exio the crosshair changes "
04:13 Exio er
04:13 Exio the crosshair changes "matches" the speed of the player :D
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04:33 ShadowNinja A administrator on the forum, maybe celeron55 or thexyz: The bot detector thinks that anyone using google chrome (at least the mobile version) is a bot, could this module please be fixed or removed?
04:35 khonkhortisan I have a firefox plugin that fakes being other browsers, I'm sure chrome has something similar
04:36 Exio addon
04:37 ShadowNinja I remember seeing the user agent, it mentioned just about every major browser IIRC
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04:41 Exio hm
04:41 jordan4ibanez the fact that sphax is supporting minetest, is crazy
04:42 Exio is there any way to check in what commit a line got "tweaked" or "created" or "changed" or w/e?
04:43 Exio i can't get any info in google what can help me :/
04:44 Exio ok, git grep
04:46 ShadowNinja Exio: on github click the blame link on the right of a file display
04:48 Exio thanks :D
04:48 [0gb_us] [“hip”, “hip”]
04:48 [0gb_us] hip hip array
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04:53 ShadowNinja [0gb_us]: lol
05:01 Exio what do you think about this https://github.com/EXio4/minetest/commit/df3ba7a58ea32cfc72f33941d2c630f395dbf1c1?
05:04 Exio well, i just looked at the hour - 2 AM
05:04 Exio going to sleep, good night
05:05 [0gb_us] Good night.
05:05 [0gb_us] What is the point in changing the crosshair size?
05:06 ShadowNinja It just gives more of a feeling of motion I guess.
05:06 [0gb_us] Hmm.
05:06 VanessaE damn, neither jeija nor uberi around.  I've got a red hot pull request waiting against mesecons ;)
05:07 [0gb_us] It doesn't sound like a bad thing, but not a good one either. Like the new physics.
05:07 [0gb_us] Also, this.
05:07 [0gb_us] http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lv5qr1Uuyp1qaeu56o1_400.jpg
05:13 jordan4ibanez vanessae what is your pull request
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05:17 Exio [0gb_us]: feeling of motion, yes
05:17 jordan4ibanez This is how I feel explaining minetest to people is like http://i.imgur.com/CvKCnY0.gif
05:17 Exio - still here for a bit
05:18 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/pull/95
05:19 VanessaE I won't merge it without uberi or jeija's okay
05:21 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Class-ify caves & move to cavegen.cpp, fix cave regression, add caves to Mapgen V7 03868ff8e1 2013-04-20T22:06:19-07:00 http://git.io/XV56VA
05:36 ShadowNinja What is the difference between the allfaces and allfaces_optional drawtypes?
05:36 VanessaE allfaces I'm not sure because it doesn't work right, _optional is leaves
05:36 VanessaE (turns transparent stuff opaque if fancy leaves is disabled)
05:37 ShadowNinja hmm, will have to test
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05:38 Exio use drawtype = "flowingliquid"
05:38 Exio :D
05:38 VanessaE last time I tried it, it acted like glass - you couldn't see the backsides even though you're supposed to, because of backface culling I guess
05:40 ShadowNinja Exio: now that I think of it that might be perfect...
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05:41 ShadowNinja I will have to test tomorow
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05:43 Exio ShadowNinja: maybe better would be "liquid" (than flowingliquid)
05:43 MichaelEh hey
05:43 ShadowNinja What is the difference?
05:44 ShadowNinja Hello MichaelEh
05:44 MichaelEh yoyu mean source versus flowing like water?
05:45 Exio ShadowNinja: the flowing_liquid is not a "full" block (afaik - with my poor tests with flowing stone"
05:46 ShadowNinja I might want the slope that flowing liquids have
05:46 Exio (the liquid isn't, if you have new_style_water)
05:46 Exio ah
05:46 MichaelEh too bad it couldn't be used with material like roofing tile
05:47 ShadowNinja It couldn't?
05:47 Exio it is funny to make stone, dirt, grass and sand liquids
05:47 Exio and enable finite_liquids ^^
05:47 Exio ShadowNinja: afaik if you don't setup a "proper" liquid it'll be like any other block
05:48 ShadowNinja Yes, that is what I want, the drawing and the slope
05:49 Exio haha
05:49 Exio /home/exio4/sources/minetest/src/nodedef.cpp:609: virtual void CNodeDefManager::updateTextures(ITextureSource*): Assertion 'f->liquid_type == LIQUID_SOURCE' failed.
05:50 Exio you can't :(
05:51 ShadowNinja oh well, allfaces(_optional) will have to do
05:52 Exio is there any way to "smooth" the terrain?
05:52 ShadowNinja Like the slabs that Takoi thought up?
05:53 Exio no no
05:54 Exio hm, //smooth command in MC-worldedit does what i want
05:54 * ShadowNinja has never played MC
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05:58 hmmmm I'm not dangerous.
05:58 hmmmm I am danger.
05:58 VanessaE uh oh :)
05:58 [0gb_us] Hmm.
05:59 [0gb_us] I mean, "Hmmmm.".
06:00 [0gb_us] Why did you choose that name, anyway, hmmmm? I'm sure there's a good story behind a name like that.
06:00 hmmmm it was actually my grandfather's name
06:01 hmmmm hmmmm is a common surname in the Ketchnikya Republic
06:01 [0gb_us] Ah, I see.
06:02 [0gb_us] I would have never guessed that.
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06:05 VanessaE ShadowNinja: since RealBadAngel is working in adding meshes/models as a regular node drawtype, it won't be line before that's possible actuall.
06:05 VanessaE +y
06:05 VanessaE (the slopes)
06:07 RealBadAngel wtf is Ketchnikya ?
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06:08 MinetestBot GIT: Jeija commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge pull request #95 from VanessaE/master fc5245139d 2013-04-20T23:07:14-07:00 http://git.io/A7V8Ow
06:08 VanessaE \o/
06:11 tripod http://www.reddit.com/comments/9z4d5
06:13 VanessaE o.O
06:19 MinetestBot GIT: Jeija commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix pressure plate (onstate) nodebox b0bef909a0 2013-04-20T23:16:43-07:00 http://git.io/Gdtz0g
06:22 VanessaE ah, I didn't even think to look at that.
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06:33 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/GaQKnFo.jpg
06:34 RealBadAngel it is getting better and better :)
06:34 markveidemanis CONNECTED TEXTURES!!!
06:34 markveidemanis download link plz
06:34 RealBadAngel not really, new glasslike drawtype
06:34 markveidemanis I have been waiting for this since 0.3.1
06:35 markveidemanis So? it looks nice! :)
06:35 markveidemanis a nodebox?
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06:35 RealBadAngel this uses nodeboxes, yes
06:35 VanessaE looking good, RealBadAngel
06:35 RealBadAngel same as fences do
06:36 [0gb_us] Hmm. Not what I thought you were doing with the connected glass, but still cool.
06:36 markveidemanis ...
06:36 markveidemanis I think nodeboxes lag
06:37 RealBadAngel this is not a mod and user doesnt define any nodeboxes
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06:38 RealBadAngel [0gb_us], so what have you thought im doing? :)
06:38 markveidemanis Download link plz
06:39 [0gb_us] I thought you were making the inner faces invisible, but the outer faces would stay the same.
06:39 ShadowNinja RealBadAngel: csn I see your latest screenshot? my computer died
06:39 [0gb_us] So it would be like the current stable glass, but you could see the back side.
06:39 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/GaQKnFo.jpg
06:40 RealBadAngel with 3d frames it looks way better than it could with flat images
06:40 markveidemanis why do you have 4 stacks?
06:40 markveidemanis Are they different
06:40 ShadowNinja Much better, But I see you still have those glitches I was talking about
06:41 Exio now yes, night :D
06:41 Exio if i'm here in less than 6 hours, stab me
06:42 [0gb_us] Good night, and I'll get my knife.
06:42 ShadowNinja lol, good night
06:42 RealBadAngel ShadowNinja, yes, there are a few glitches still, im workin on them
06:45 ShadowNinja OK, I would sugest a darker background next time, it is hard to see it.
06:52 ShadowNinja Oh, and XFCE won't draw my window titlebars anymore, if anyone knows how to fix that, I will have to use cli/unity until then.
06:53 [0gb_us] THat sucks. I don't know how to fix it though.
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07:01 VanessaE RealBadAngel: btw, https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/pull/15
07:02 VanessaE what's your opinion on this?
07:02 ShadowNinja VanessaE: lol, I was literaly typing out the same thing when you posted that
07:03 VanessaE haha
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07:04 RealBadAngel well, lookin at the screenshot i do have mixed feelings
07:04 RealBadAngel will try the code later
07:04 VanessaE I would have chosen thinner, more detailed lines,e.g. some kind of stripes
07:04 [0gb_us] Nice, VanessaE! Any plans to do that with common creative too?
07:04 VanessaE [0gb_us]: ask khonkhortisan.  he coded it :)
07:07 markveidemanis I have made a wonderful, creative modset
07:07 markveidemanis paint, pixelart, curtails, brushes
07:07 markveidemanis Its on display on my server
07:08 markveidemanis 86.158.246.201 Join plz
07:08 VanessaE curtails?
07:08 * ShadowNinja just discovered a wonderfull feature in connectbot
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07:25 [0gb_us] RealBadAngel, if you new drawtype works the way I think it does, it could be used for a lot more than just glass, now that I think of it.
07:28 ShadowNinja [0gb_us]: like what?
07:28 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/YRNwzwa.jpg
07:28 RealBadAngel current status :)
07:30 VanessaE getting really good, rba
07:30 [0gb_us] ShadowNinja: Various other tiles could be used that people want a border around, but not around each tile. I have some old tilesets I made for a 2D game, and with that change, they could be ported to Minetest. Many probably wouldn't look the best in 3D, but I bet I could salvage a lot of them.
07:31 RealBadAngel rule for this drawtype is that border pixels of the tile are used to create frames
07:31 RealBadAngel inside of the tile, square 14x14 is used as a face
07:32 [0gb_us] Oh, really? I guess it's not a versatile as I thought. My bad.
07:32 [0gb_us] No ported tiles for me then.
07:32 RealBadAngel i told that already, this drawtype is very specifid
07:32 RealBadAngel *specific
07:33 [0gb_us] I must have missed that part. Again, my bad.
07:33 RealBadAngel this has almost nothing to do with connected textures
07:34 [0gb_us] Somehow I got the impression that multiple images were used, like for raillike.
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07:35 RealBadAngel this drawtype uses just one texture
07:35 RealBadAngel default:glass and default:obsidian_glass on the picture above
07:36 VanessaE to be fair, it might still be useful for stuff other than glass, who knows
07:37 [0gb_us] If only the middle 14 pixels are used for the repeating pattern though, there will always be a transparent grid. It would be hard to find a non-glass use.
07:39 VanessaE perhaps so, but let's wait aid see
07:39 VanessaE and*
07:39 VanessaE after all, look how people abused nodeboxes to make some nice, very not-so-boxlike objects :)
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07:40 [0gb_us] Hmm. SOme nice yes, but also some not so nice. It seems all features will be abused ...
07:40 VanessaE that's the advantage of mods, you can choose not to install mods that make poor use of the engine's capabilities :)
07:41 [0gb_us] True.
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07:43 sfan5 wtf?! vlc is playing the audio in like 4x speed
07:45 [0gb_us] Yes. I bet you're right.
07:47 sfan5 john_minetest: :D
07:57 RealBadAngel well, somebody said folks that build huge constructions with glass wont like new drawtype...
07:57 RealBadAngel check this out: http://i.imgur.com/0rxQz99.jpg
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08:00 [0gb_us] As long as the new drawtype doesn't replace the old, it should be fine.
08:00 [0gb_us] The old should be there for those that need it.
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08:01 [0gb_us] Also, maybe the inner corners should shoe on the new drawtype. The inner corners on those stairs look funny.
08:01 [0gb_us] *show
08:02 RealBadAngel this is not yet done
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08:02 [0gb_us] Okay, cool.
08:03 RealBadAngel this has grown from 15minutes of coding lua mod to engine code that im workin on for several hours already
08:03 RealBadAngel and become prety complex
08:04 [0gb_us] Yeah, I see why it would be complex.
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08:10 RealBadAngel got an idea, call the new drawtype "framed_glasslike" and create new craftable item Framed Glass, crafted with glass block and some iron ingots
08:10 RealBadAngel what do you think?
08:11 RealBadAngel this way we can have both types ingame
08:11 [0gb_us] I'm not sure how the ingots fit in, but the rest sounds great.
08:11 [0gb_us] If you like that recipe though, go for it.
08:12 RealBadAngel iron to create frames, which in fact are shown
08:12 [0gb_us] Metal frames are shown? I only see the white glass shine at the edges.
08:12 RealBadAngel because im using default:glass texture for it
08:13 VanessaE RealBadAngel: I think wood-framed would be better
08:13 RealBadAngel i could make the borders dark grey
08:13 [0gb_us] AH! So in game, it would use a new texture?
08:13 [0gb_us] Okay, sounds good then.
08:13 RealBadAngel no problemo, we can make wooden frames too
08:13 VanessaE craft four glass blocks in a square and four sticks surrounding it (leave lower right corner of the grid empty)
08:13 VanessaE yield 4 wood-frames glass blocks.
08:13 RealBadAngel hold on for a second
08:14 VanessaE no :D
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08:21 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/rmBMuNP.jpg
08:21 RealBadAngel and?
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08:21 [0gb_us] Nice!
08:22 VanessaE looking good!
08:22 VanessaE you are using what textures?
08:22 VanessaE will this work with HDX properly?
08:24 RealBadAngel all textures will work with it, but have to be created with one rule
08:24 VanessaE I suggest you point this new glass at a new set of textures
08:25 VanessaE so that they can be made to look different from default glasses
08:25 RealBadAngel 1/16th of texture all around is border, 14/16th square inside is face
08:25 RealBadAngel *is frame
08:25 VanessaE (some tex packs for example put stuff in the corners of the glass texture, like wooden or metal brackets)
08:26 RealBadAngel well, for 128x texture 1/16th means 16 pixels for frame
08:26 VanessaE right
08:26 VanessaE I'm thinking of texture details is all, not size
08:26 iqualfragile is there some way to specify an collisonbox for a node wich differs from its nodebox?
08:26 VanessaE you don't want to go cutting off someone's creative use of the corners, etc.
08:27 RealBadAngel havent tested it but propably such use will cause artifacts
08:30 VanessaE so it should use new textures then
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08:30 VanessaE glass_framed.png, obsidian_glass_framed.png, etc.
08:33 RealBadAngel yeah
08:34 RealBadAngel framed made from glass would have scratches, from obsidian dont
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09:19 VanessaE morning taoki
09:19 VanessaE check scrollback, you'll like what RealBadAngel has been working on.
09:19 VanessaE http://i.imgur.com/rmBMuNP.jpg
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09:22 arsdragonfly VanessaE :It seems that you never sleep :P
09:22 VanessaE I sleep, but sporadicallt.
09:22 * sfan5 finally updated EasyCraft to support all common mods
09:22 VanessaE y*
09:22 VanessaE sfan5: I think I got HDX up to snuff tonight finally
09:23 sfan5 HD \o/
09:23 Taoki VanessaE: Nice :)
09:23 VanessaE no, strike that.  Forgot the grass.
09:23 sfan5 /o\
09:23 sfan5 *_o_
09:26 RealBadAngel well, i solved problem displaying fancy glass textures like some texture packs are using
09:26 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/l0EjA76.png
09:26 RealBadAngel heres Sphax framed window
09:27 VanessaE cute
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09:27 sfan5 RealBadAngel: nice
09:27 VanessaE RealBadAngel: install your updates already.
09:28 RealBadAngel so, this drawtype will use TWO textures for drawing
09:28 * VanessaE motions to the little red >!< on the top panel
09:28 RealBadAngel 1st to draw frames
09:28 RealBadAngel 2nd for glass faces
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09:29 VanessaE (at my insistence of course ;) )
09:29 RealBadAngel if second texture will have some fancy frames on it, effect will be as above with spahx tp
09:29 RealBadAngel in fact code was called with same textures for both frames and glass faces
09:30 RealBadAngel but you can define it with for example default:wood for frames
09:31 VanessaE but no one will surely do that.  They'll get smart and copy default:wood to a new filename before using it.
09:31 RealBadAngel and empty texture with some scratches on it (like on default glass)
09:31 VanessaE (so that it can be textured properly, with beveled edges for example)
09:34 RealBadAngel i think the drawtype will be enough flexible to create awesome windows or glass surfaces
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09:35 RealBadAngel hi Jordach
09:35 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/l0EjA76.png
09:35 Jordach hey RealBadAngel
09:35 RealBadAngel ^^ check it out
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09:35 Jordach theyre not connected
09:36 RealBadAngel watch the screen carefully
09:36 VanessaE Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/rmBMuNP.jpg
09:36 VanessaE that's the "real" one.
09:36 RealBadAngel surface divided because face texture is made so
09:36 VanessaE RBA's is a different sort of test
09:37 arsdragonfly I wish I could change the texture of nodes when the game is running :(
09:37 VanessaE arsdragonfly: not yet, but coming soon
09:37 RealBadAngel hehe i can :P
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09:38 VanessaE *grumble*  focus follows MOUSE, not eyes.
09:38 RealBadAngel thats why im coding it in the engine, not as a mod
09:38 arsdragonfly or can I display different pics in formspec?
09:38 RealBadAngel ofc
09:38 RealBadAngel you can modify formspec on the fly
09:40 Jordach in the game Ace of Spades, you can "pause" the game by saying kto polak
09:41 arsdragonfly really? looks like a backdoor
09:43 arsdragonfly Is it in the classic one or the jagex one ?
09:44 Jordach classic btw
09:46 RealBadAngel lol
09:47 RealBadAngel it means "who's polish"
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09:49 Jordach which then makes most of the players have to type something for an easy kill on AoS
09:49 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
09:50 sfan5 hi PilzAdam
09:50 VanessaE morning PA
09:50 [0gb_us] Hey, PilzAdam.
09:50 arsdragonfly hi PilzAdam
09:51 [0gb_us] RealBadAngel, that last screenshot looks like what I was expecting your new drawtype would look like.
09:51 PilzAdam VanessaE, any test results with worledit++?
09:51 VanessaE PilzAdam: I haven't been testing it tonight, been working on other stuff
09:53 RealBadAngel [0gb_us], its still wip
09:53 RealBadAngel im preparing now samples
09:53 Jordach actually, come to think of it
09:53 Jordach we need new node drawtypes that nodeboxes cant do
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09:54 VanessaE Jordach: meshes coming soon
09:55 iqualfragile VanessaE: whats the highest resoluton of your texturepacks?
09:55 VanessaE 512px.
09:55 iqualfragile oh, ok
09:55 sfan5 ..
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09:57 Lykos_pc Hello!
09:57 VanessaE hi
09:58 iqualfragile hi
10:00 Jordach VanessaE, FUCK YEAH
10:01 VanessaE what?
10:01 VanessaE oh
10:03 Jordach also: we can now tempt redstoners to minetest
10:04 RealBadAngel ok, examples. same drawtype, just different textures for frame and faces:
10:04 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/AfERhKw.png
10:04 Jordach RealBadAngel, AH YOURE making FRAMES!
10:04 VanessaE looking damned good, rba
10:05 RealBadAngel ofc this drawtype will be used by technic frames also
10:05 Jordach NAW SHIT
10:05 Jordach oops, caps were on still :P
10:07 RealBadAngel celeron55, still thinkin this is "just wrong"? :)
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10:07 KikaRz Hello!
10:08 KikaRz How are you guys?
10:08 Jordach hey KikaRz
10:08 Jordach played subversive takedown?
10:08 Adarqet Hello!
10:08 Jordach its a game by mat^2 btw
10:09 Jordach http://mp2.dk/st/
10:09 KikaRz Nope... Link
10:09 KikaRz It's flash?
10:09 Jordach KikaRz, its a native opengl game
10:09 KikaRz oh... let me see if my computer don't gets stupidly laggy
10:10 Jordach KikaRz, it has high end graphics on by default
10:10 VanessaE morning KikaRz
10:10 Jordach config.txt is settings
10:10 KikaRz Good morning, my sweetheart
10:10 KikaRz <3
10:10 KikaRz I'm using KVIrc, should I use it?
10:10 VanessaE why not?
10:11 KikaRz xd, xchat is now pay needed
10:11 Jordach hexchat ftw
10:11 VanessaE KikaRz: only on windows
10:11 KikaRz I know.
10:11 VanessaE (lame)
10:12 RealBadAngel xchat paid? havent noticed that
10:12 KikaRz I'm using Windows, btw...
10:12 KikaRz I need Steam.
10:12 RealBadAngel so look for xchat2
10:12 VanessaE linux has steam now.
10:12 KikaRz Nope.
10:12 RealBadAngel this one is free for sure
10:12 KikaRz Just Ubuntu.
10:12 VanessaE yep, and if it runs there, it can probably be made to run elsewhere too, e.g. debian or mint
10:12 KikaRz Nope.
10:12 VanessaE did you try? :)
10:12 KikaRz I've tested in Debian Stable version, and don't works
10:13 VanessaE bummer
10:13 Jordach KikaRz, xubuntu ftw
10:13 KikaRz Can't.
10:13 VanessaE why?
10:13 KikaRz Stupid WUBI
10:13 VanessaE WUBI?  the bootloader/
10:13 VanessaE ?
10:13 KikaRz If I try to install, it gives me an error.
10:13 KikaRz WUBI = Windows Ubuntu Binary Install
10:13 KikaRz i think
10:14 VanessaE Linux isn't really meant to be installed like that
10:14 KikaRz I've tried in Crunchbang Statler...
10:14 Jordach why are you using WUBI
10:14 VanessaE it's meant to be installed the same way Windows is - on a partition of its own
10:14 Jordach re-write C:/ and be done with it
10:14 KikaRz I don't have DVDs...
10:14 KikaRz or CDs
10:14 VanessaE you can 'burn' a boot image to a thumb drive also
10:14 KikaRz Thumb drive?
10:14 KikaRz o_o'
10:14 VanessaE USB mass storage
10:14 Jordach even cd-rw's work fine for linux installing
10:15 KikaRz i don't have any.
10:15 VanessaE Jordach: I think she means she lacks the media to burn onto.
10:15 KikaRz just my MP4.
10:15 VanessaE MP3 players act as USB mass storage usually.
10:15 KikaRz MP3, not mp4.
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10:16 VanessaE how much free space do you have onit?
10:16 KikaRz Well... let me try Subversive Takedown
10:16 KikaRz 4 GB.
10:16 VanessaE that's more than enough  :)
10:17 Jordach i did something more clever
10:17 VanessaE like what?
10:17 Jordach i booted from the partition where i put the usb booter
10:17 KikaRz This game looks like Ace of Spades...
10:17 Jordach and installed linux using the usb method without a usb drive
10:17 KikaRz VanessaE, what about my musics? :(
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10:18 VanessaE KikaRz: store them somewhere else temporarily
10:18 KikaRz ...
10:18 KikaRz can't.
10:18 VanessaE like on a laptop or so
10:18 KikaRz Oh
10:18 VanessaE but you shouldn't need to erase them
10:18 KikaRz i have one VERY OLD computer.
10:18 KikaRz so...
10:18 KikaRz Who created ST?
10:18 KikaRz ah
10:18 Jordach mat^2
10:18 KikaRz mat^2
10:18 KikaRz well, i have a message for him...
10:18 VanessaE or wait, maybe you do.  I guess you have to actually binary-copy the boot image to the USB device...
10:18 VanessaE so you'll have to back up your music and pray :)
10:18 KikaRz Did you based in Ace of Spades to create this fantastic game?
10:19 Jordach KikaRz, 1.0 is vaugely based off of this game
10:21 KikaRz Ok.
10:21 KikaRz VanessaE, well... can you tell me how i make USB device bootable?
10:21 KikaRz with the installation files there?
10:21 KikaRz (teamviewer or sumthing)
10:22 VanessaE http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
10:22 KikaRz i've tried with that
10:22 KikaRz and don't works
10:22 VanessaE note that the ISO image could be any distro, not just ubuntu
10:22 KikaRz Installing controller device...
10:22 KikaRz finalizing controller installation
10:23 VanessaE I wouldn't know how to guide you through it, I don't use windows.
10:23 KikaRz :C
10:23 VanessaE I've always burned my ISOs to DVD and installed from that
10:23 KikaRz should i install 12.04 or 12.10?
10:23 VanessaE 12.04, hands down.
10:23 VanessaE stick with that until the next LTS is out
10:24 VanessaE (which will be 14.04)
10:24 KikaRz VanessaE
10:24 arsdragonfly it'll be out soon
10:24 KikaRz It updates automatically?
10:25 KikaRz damn
10:25 VanessaE KikaRz: what does?  ubuntu?
10:25 KikaRz Yea
10:25 arsdragonfly VanessaE :Isn't it 13.04?
10:25 KikaRz i can't boot up my usb
10:25 VanessaE it updates when you tell it to :)
10:25 KikaRz to my computer
10:25 VanessaE arsdragonfly: nope:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
10:25 VanessaE KikaRz: time to get a DVD burner and some media then :-/
10:26 KikaRz ...
10:26 KikaRz kidding me?
10:26 KikaRz Trying to install Ubuntu one LAST TIME
10:26 KikaRz by wubi
10:26 KikaRz What of the 8                     ubuntus should i install?
10:26 Jordach xubuntu
10:26 KikaRz fail? that space wasnt made by me
10:27 VanessaE Xubuntu 12.04 "Precise"
10:27 KikaRz Lol...
10:27 KikaRz Installing in English (US) to prevent errors...
10:27 KikaRz amd64 version is good?
10:27 KikaRz (i think i need that version)
10:27 VanessaE only if you run AMD64
10:28 KikaRz my processor is Athlon 64x 2 cores
10:28 KikaRz YAY,
10:28 VanessaE should be okay
10:28 KikaRz my mp4 is working
10:28 KikaRz i think
10:28 KikaRz nope
10:28 KikaRz false alert.
10:31 VanessaE bummer.
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10:33 Jordach KikaRz, I could post you a xubuntu disc if you needed
10:33 KikaRz Nope.
10:33 VanessaE she doesn't have a drive.
10:34 KikaRz Well... you can send me a dvd...
10:34 KikaRz 6000 Castelo Branco, Portugal
10:34 VanessaE KikaRz: get one.  They're only $25 (including S&H) for a decent burner these days
10:34 KikaRz xD
10:34 VanessaE ok maybe a tad more, I forgot you were in Portugal
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10:34 arsdragonfly KikaRz: what does it say when it boots?
10:34 KikaRz wait
10:34 KikaRz let me try , next to the install
10:35 arsdragonfly *** not found or?
10:35 KikaRz ?
10:35 KikaRz *** = ?
10:35 KikaRz ah
10:35 KikaRz wubidr
10:35 KikaRz something
10:35 KikaRz http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2105396
10:35 KikaRz this.
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10:37 VanessaE ok forget WUBI then
10:37 KikaRz why?
10:37 VanessaE you have no USB flash drives of any kind?
10:37 Jordach2 KikaRz, go get a new computer.
10:37 VanessaE (other than your MP3 player)
10:37 KikaRz yea...
10:37 KikaRz but contains important files.
10:37 KikaRz well
10:37 KikaRz my mother and father files.
10:37 arsdragonfly Actually I have a bootable usb disk right next to me :P
10:38 KikaRz i've tried with it
10:38 KikaRz but no success.
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10:38 VanessaE KikaRz: nothing you can store your important files onto?  any kind of back up hard disk?
10:38 KikaRz Nope.
10:38 VanessaE you need one.  NOW.
10:38 KikaRz No money.
10:38 VanessaE abort your attempts to install ubuntu.
10:38 KikaRz ...
10:39 VanessaE do not install until you can safely back up your files.
10:39 Jordach2 im wondering if i shoud go buy a 2tb disk drive for KikaRz
10:39 arsdragonfly KikaRz :is your computer very old?
10:39 KikaRz Well not.
10:39 KikaRz Just an Fujistsu siemens computer celsius 400 box, with modified content into it
10:40 arsdragonfly I met some problems When creating my bootable disk
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10:40 KikaRz http://www.pcarenahungary.com/pricelist/nagykep/fujitsu-siemens-celsius-400-279.jpg
10:40 KikaRz this is the pic of the box...
10:40 KikaRz but inside this computer, i got good graphics card, 1.55 gb ram...
10:40 VanessaE except without the DVD drive.
10:41 KikaRz well, i have one dvd driver and cd
10:41 VanessaE but not a burner?
10:41 KikaRz Nope.
10:41 KikaRz well... i've tested Nero
10:41 KikaRz but no results
10:41 VanessaE it would say on the drive if it is a burner or not
10:42 arsdragonfly cuz my machine cannot boot from a FAT32 flash disk
10:42 arsdragonfly So I formatted it to FAT16 and it worked:P
10:42 arsdragonfly But i forgot the error messages
10:42 VanessaE (well, they used to_
10:42 KikaRz lol...
10:42 KikaRz ok... let me try then
10:42 KikaRz Welll
10:42 KikaRz my F***ing damn mp4 don't reads
10:42 KikaRz on this computer
10:43 VanessaE well...
10:43 VanessaE there's one last hope:
10:43 VanessaE Install debian from FLOPPY DISKS
10:43 VanessaE :)
10:43 VanessaE they can still do that can't they?
10:43 VanessaE (the old boot+root net install method)
10:43 KikaRz floppy disks???
10:43 KikaRz i have one driver...
10:44 VanessaE drive*
10:44 KikaRz yea...
10:44 KikaRz drive.
10:44 KikaRz but my windows can't read it
10:44 VanessaE ok.
10:44 VanessaE there is another option
10:44 KikaRz What?
10:45 VanessaE http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=976
10:45 KikaRz that is?
10:45 VanessaE buy a copy on CD (and give a few of them away)
10:46 KikaRz how i can buy it? -.-
10:46 VanessaE well, you need this stuff called "money"
10:46 KikaRz But i'm from portugal...
10:46 VanessaE I haven't seen much of it myself lately, but word on the streets is that you can get it by going to a place called ... "work" I think? :-)
10:48 VanessaE well that's pretty much every option there is
10:48 KikaRz omg...
10:48 VanessaE either you burn it, copy it to USB, or buy it..
10:48 VanessaE same is true of Windows
10:48 KikaRz ...
10:49 KikaRz i just have one crunchbang dvd (statler 10)
10:49 KikaRz and one ubuntu 9.10 dvd...
10:49 VanessaE well
10:49 VanessaE how did yuou get those?
10:49 VanessaE you*
10:49 KikaRz and some debian netinst (old)
10:49 KikaRz my brother.
10:49 KikaRz my brother works with linux.
10:49 cosarara97 Is booting from an ethernet cable possible?
10:49 KikaRz he's 24 years old.
10:49 VanessaE ok, time to hit him up for a modern distro then
10:49 KikaRz ...
10:49 KikaRz he did that copys at long time ago...
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10:50 KikaRz Lol
10:50 KikaRz what a fail.
10:51 VanessaE KikaRz: you are completely out of blank DVD/CD media and you're sure your drive is not a burner?
10:51 KikaRz Well
10:51 KikaRz my drive is a burner.
10:51 KikaRz I just don't have the software for that
10:51 KikaRz XD
10:51 VanessaE ok
10:51 VanessaE idea
10:51 VanessaE this will take several steps.
10:51 KikaRz O_O'''' Sevelaler?
10:51 KikaRz *Severelar?
10:52 KikaRz *Several?
10:52 KikaRz xd
10:52 cosarara97 just install the burning software? lol
10:52 KikaRz Tell me some?
10:52 cosarara97 For windows? No idea
10:52 VanessaE you can boot from any of those Linux CDs you already have.  Install whatever there is, who cares how old.  Included with the install will likely be a burner app:  xfburn, brasero, k3b, etc.   Boot - install - go online - download a new copy - burn that - reboot - re-install the new copy.
10:53 VanessaE cosarara97: Nero, but she had no luck with that
10:53 KikaRz ?
10:53 KikaRz what?
10:53 KikaRz well
10:53 KikaRz wait...
10:53 KikaRz i have one idea...
10:53 KikaRz do I choose Boot option for Crunchbang?
10:53 cosarara97 You can also install virtualbox, boot a live distro from it, run brasero or equivalent, give the cd to the virtual machine and lalalalla
10:53 KikaRz i have VMWare.
10:53 VanessaE KikaRz: no idea, never used crunchbang.
10:53 KikaRz with Ubuntu on it
10:54 VanessaE booting a VM won't do you any real good
10:54 KikaRz oh forget...
10:54 KikaRz uninstalled it.
10:54 KikaRz well
10:54 KikaRz see ya in few... minats.
10:54 cosarara97 bbl
10:55 VanessaE damn it, and I need to get to bed myself
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11:00 KikaRz Hello Again...
11:00 VanessaE hi
11:00 KikaRz Problems with Live boot.
11:00 KikaRz -.-
11:00 VanessaE such as?
11:00 KikaRz USB devices and HUB getting error.
11:01 VanessaE get rid of the hub.
11:01 VanessaE don't use a hub while booting/installing
11:01 VanessaE plug it back in later after the install is complete
11:01 KikaRz i'm not using it.
11:03 VanessaE you shouln't be seeing any errors dealing with a hub then
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11:03 VanessaE but get rid of it anyway
11:03 KikaRz but it appears
11:03 KikaRz HUB...
11:04 KikaRz USB
11:04 KikaRz etc.
11:04 KikaRz a lot of errors...
11:04 VanessaE appears where?
11:04 KikaRz in the loading
11:04 VanessaE ok, so get rid of it :)
11:04 KikaRz Well... i'm tired of this
11:04 VanessaE sowwy
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11:04 KikaRz Not ready to use Linux Ubuntu.
11:05 KikaRz Well
11:05 VanessaE oh well, some other time maybe]
11:05 KikaRz how i compile Minetest in windows?
11:05 KikaRz i need a tutorial.
11:05 VanessaE use pilzadam's builds :)
11:05 VanessaE or sfan5's
11:05 KikaRz i need one that uses direct3d
11:06 PilzAdam KikaRz, read the README
11:06 KikaRz That works? -.-
11:07 KikaRz Well, at least, I can try.
11:07 KikaRz too much things...
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11:09 KikaRz Deivan, so, how you said? 24/7 online... I think not.
11:11 Deivan Yes...
11:11 Deivan I am here.
11:11 Deivan -.-
11:11 Deivan I think my internet have some problem in the last 8h...
11:11 Deivan :-/
11:11 KikaRz PilzAdam, we should use Visual Studio 2010 or 2012?
11:12 PilzAdam dunno
11:12 KikaRz Lol, you said me to read Readme...
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11:13 sfan5 KikaRz: VS2012 costs money..
11:13 KikaRz Wait...
11:13 KikaRz Cleaning all 43,32 GB from my Downloads folder...
11:13 KikaRz What a cool thing...
11:14 KikaRz Installation Requirements:
11:14 KikaRz
11:14 KikaRz A compatible version of Visual Studio 2010 was not detected on the system. This update is designed for only the Microsoft Visual Studio 2010.
11:14 KikaRz and where is Visual Studio 2010?
11:14 KikaRz It's the SDK?
11:29 VanessaE well I'm off to bed.. Night all.
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11:40 iqualfragile RealBadAngel: the different textures for frames and faces is a great idea
11:40 KikaRz VanessaE, good night
11:50 Deivan Now is possible change textures from faces?
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12:13 Jordach hey
12:14 Deivan I think the API need a FAQ...  :-)
12:14 Deivan AFK
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12:17 Jordach cisoun, wheres your texture pack updates
12:17 Jordach youre way behind 0.4.6 standards
12:17 Jordach (i know you have stuff todo)
12:18 Jordach hey StrayBytes
12:18 Deivan I have a small problem with the chat screen, it stay over the formspec from mods...  Is blocking buttons.  How I send it to the foreground?
12:18 StrayBytes Hi.
12:18 StrayBytes Yeah, chat shouldn't do that.
12:19 Deivan But is happening...
12:19 Deivan I need use  F2 to hidde him before use a item...
12:20 Zeg9 Hi ra... StrayBytes
12:20 StrayBytes Hi.
12:20 StrayBytes I can't stay long, sorry.
12:20 Deivan Not all mesassages, only some of them block buttons.  :-/
12:20 Deivan I don't know... : -/
12:20 Deivan AFK
12:20 Zeg9 Also labels from formspecs block buttons sometimes
12:21 Zeg9 Guess this is a problem in irrlicht, not minetest
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12:45 markveidemanis Hello
12:45 markveidemanis I got a usb keyboard
12:46 mauvebic well hello, glass of kanar?
12:46 markveidemanis Now i need  a place for the netbook
12:46 markveidemanis Behind the monitor or under the desk?
12:46 mauvebic could try nailing it to the wall?
12:46 mauvebic velcro, magnets, ?
12:47 mauvebic if you dont need the nb's keyboard, anywhere you want lol
12:47 mauvebic just make sure closing the lids wont turn off your monitor lol
12:47 mauvebic one of my netbooks had that bug
12:52 markveidemanis i am so used to the4 old keuberad
12:52 markveidemanis all the keys are in different places
12:52 mauvebic thats the diff between fullsize and 80% :p
12:53 markveidemanis Old habits die hard
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12:53 mauvebic its alot easier adjusting to fullsize than it is adjusting to 80 though
12:53 * arsdragonfly finds that "o" and "e" are not so close to each other on the keyboard
13:00 Zeg9 markveidemanis: so which distro did you use?
13:00 markveidemanis i use lubuntu
13:00 markveidemanis the keyboard bops up and dopwn when i type
13:01 markveidemanis And minetest freezes when i play it with the big monitor
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13:13 KikaRz Hello.
13:15 Jordach o hai KikaRz
13:15 KikaRz hi.
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13:16 KikaRz who wants to play portal 2 with me? add steam kikarz1
13:17 Jordach you have a pc that can play portal 2, but not able to install linux
13:17 KikaRz yea... awesome, huh?
13:17 Jordach theres something wrong here
13:17 KikaRz what?
13:18 Jordach so you can play a 2011 video game
13:18 Jordach but not install a free operating system
13:18 Jordach you've been cheated on hardware
13:18 KikaRz ?
13:18 KikaRz no i havent
13:19 KikaRz o_o'
13:19 KikaRz i have a good graphics card
13:19 KikaRz 1,55 gb ram
13:21 KikaRz so...
13:21 KikaRz Jordach, you want to play avec moi?
13:21 KikaRz xd
13:21 mauvebic uefi?
13:22 KikaRz uefi = ?
13:22 mauvebic that crippling crap they put so you cant install other OS's
13:22 KikaRz ah
13:22 KikaRz ah
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13:22 KikaRz like a lock?
13:22 KikaRz well, i dont have that...
13:22 KikaRz if i had, i couldn't install crunchbang linux 10
13:22 mauvebic yeah its meant to protect corporate profits from malicious free software :p
13:23 KikaRz ok.
13:23 KikaRz but i dont have
13:23 KikaRz well... who wants to play portal 2 with moi?
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13:34 mauvebic how well would XP work on a computer thats < yr old?
13:36 mauvebic though i do have a win7 iso somewhere
13:40 KikaRz Who has Portal 2?
13:40 KikaRz add me on steam: kikarz1
13:40 markveidemanis MINETEST FUCKING CRASHES IF I GO FULL SCREEN
13:40 KikaRz lawl
13:40 KikaRz cool!
13:40 mauvebic file a bug report, might be fixed in a month or two
13:40 Koren caps lock fixed it ?
13:41 mauvebic what is portal 2?
13:41 mauvebic and are there pirated copies?
13:41 mauvebic (not asking for a link, just if it exists)
13:42 Jordach mauvebic, its a FPS with puzzles
13:42 mauvebic ugh, dont much care for FPS's, they all seem the same to me and i have return/wolfenstein
13:42 Jordach mauvebic, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f3I91ZRsGg
13:43 Koren its not a shooter
13:43 Koren just first person camera
13:43 mauvebic ugh, gamers' have such annoying voices, use a voice synth! lol
13:43 markveidemanis http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=85585#p85585
13:44 mauvebic its funny though im a white man with the voice of a black man, one of the deepest lol
13:45 mauvebic im gonna proceed with win7 methinks, is there a decent easy-to-use tool to restore grub afterwards?
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13:46 mauvebic most of the instructions on how to do so from dists' seem hopelessly outdated lol
13:47 Kacey ShadowNinja, want to get building again?
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13:47 Jordach mauvebic, easyBCD
13:48 Jordach it can create a custom bootloader
13:48 Jordach when used on windows vista, 7 and 8
13:48 Jordach (it doesnt work for xp)
13:48 mauvebic well i couldn't find any drivers for my newest HP for winxp anyhow
13:48 jojoa1997|Tablet Good Morning :-)
13:48 mauvebic neither would blockscape work well in XP according to posts
13:49 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaTY2Zw/screenshot_402225336.png pOng!!!!!!
13:49 Jordach Kacey, nice
13:50 Kacey ShadowNinja and Uberi helped alot so far
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13:50 mauvebic hmm, aparently win7 bootloader works with arch if i make a fat32 partition to put grub in
13:51 jojoa1997|Tablet why not use windows 1.1 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows
13:51 mauvebic because i want to play decent games with decent gfx? lol
13:51 jojoa1997|Tablet nah you dont
13:51 mauvebic uhm, yeah i do lol
13:52 jojoa1997|Tablet you want to watch minetest melt your computer
13:52 mauvebic ? because that's happened to you?
13:52 jojoa1997|Tablet oh we should make a minetest like the really old (only green) games
13:52 mauvebic + why would i install win7 just to play a windows build of minetest? not logical
13:52 jojoa1997|Tablet i am joking
13:52 jojoa1997|Tablet \no windows 1.1
13:53 mauvebic thanks heavens for that lol
13:53 jojoa1997|Tablet that was the first
13:53 mauvebic *thank
13:53 jojoa1997|Tablet look at the wiki
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13:53 mauvebic i got more than enough tabs open getting drivers for the hp lol
13:53 * Kacey needs to make an ubuntu partition on his laptop
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13:54 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdam if someone makes a mod that is popular in minecraft can i add it to minetest?
13:54 jojoa1997|Tablet minitest
13:54 jojoa1997|Tablet like invtweak. it is like a SUPER POPULAR minecraft mod
13:54 TheBonsai omg, i'm so more modern. i started off with W3.something on top of a dos 5  heh
13:54 mauvebic because there aint enough conflicting inventory mods :p
13:54 jojoa1997|Tablet mauvebic this doeant conflict
13:55 mauvebic + you need all the different craft guides to see *all* the crafts lol
13:55 jojoa1997|Tablet it just adds noise when breaking a tool(already in minecraft) and when a toiol reaks it moves the next one up
13:55 mauvebic i like sounds but adding too many makes load-times horrid
13:56 jojoa1997|Tablet it is only 11 kb? is that small?
13:56 mauvebic + all the other ones, on first load the client downloads them all
13:57 mauvebic combined with all the "fail to emerge player" msgs
13:57 Kacey i need an ubuntu 12.04 *.img or *.dsk file
13:58 mauvebic dl from site?
13:58 Kacey link?
13:58 ImQ009 google.com
13:58 mauvebic http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+download
14:00 Kacey i got an installer
14:01 Kacey i need a partition first
14:01 Kacey AAAGH!!!
14:01 ImQ009 Question mark.
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14:02 mauvebic if this is too hard for you, trying to create a partition and install ubuntu will likely just bork your machine
14:02 mauvebic stick with what works
14:03 jojoa1997|Tablet does anyone get the problem of having a node defined in creative but textured with unknown block
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14:04 mauvebic i have no idea
14:04 mauvebic ask the devs
14:05 Kacey i got lost with these instructions lol
14:05 Kacey http://www.technorms.com/8438/windows-8-create-hard-drive-partition
14:06 TheBonsai you can partition your hdd under windows only with a diashow of many screenshots, but want to use a Linux? :-)
14:07 KikaRz o_o
14:07 KikaRz omg, so many messages
14:07 TheBonsai most OT though :D
14:07 KikaRz windows 8 sucks.
14:08 Kacey what file system should i use for the partition?
14:08 * ImQ009 likes Windows 8
14:08 Koren ext4
14:08 Kacey FAT32 or NTFS
14:08 Koren if you have files of more than 4GB, NTFS
14:08 * Kacey gives ImQ009 a high five
14:09 Kacey it is an 8GB partition
14:09 Koren then fat32 is less buggy
14:09 Kacey but i want to throw Ubuntu on there
14:09 TheBonsai i thought he creates a partition as target volume for a new installation of some ubuntu?
14:09 TheBonsai ah yes, so don't care about the fs
14:09 Kacey should i even format it?
14:09 TheBonsai (in windows partition creation i mean)
14:10 TheBonsai doesn't matter since the *buntu installer will
14:10 TheBonsai *should
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14:11 TheBonsai though you may need a place for a chained boot loader, too. i suggest to discuss that in the other places here (##linux or ##ubuntu or whatever)
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14:27 markveidemanis What do i put in the conf to make my server appear in the list?
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14:27 mauvebic the 'public' check box in the advanced tab
14:28 mauvebic in the conf you need to add lines for server_name and server _desc
14:28 mauvebic * server_desc
14:29 markveidemanis oops wrong page ^^
14:29 mauvebic wrong page?
14:29 markveidemanis address
14:30 Kacey im conflicted
14:30 Kacey I like Windows in the way that everything works for it and it looks good
14:31 Calinou >windows
14:31 Calinou >looks good
14:31 Kacey but i also want to put Ubuntu on here
14:31 Kacey but everything is going crazy and it looks like they won't go together and work next to eachother
14:34 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, would be nice to have such mods ported to Lua in the MiniTest thread
14:37 jojoa1997|Tablet what do you mean
14:37 Kacey be back in a sec
14:37 * ShadowBot wakes up
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14:38 Kacey heh
14:38 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdam what mods
14:38 jojoa1997|Tablet and what is ported top lua
14:38 PilzAdam <jojoa1997|Tablet> PilzAdam if someone makes a mod that is popular in minecraft can i add it to minetest?
14:38 jojoa1997|Tablet oh so dont add it by default
14:39 jojoa1997|Tablet or add it
14:39 PilzAdam not by default
14:39 jojoa1997|Tablet oh ok
14:39 PilzAdam but link them in the MiniTest thread
14:39 jojoa1997|Tablet but i have to edit them
14:39 jojoa1997|Tablet idea
14:40 jojoa1997|Tablet i can put them in a file that others can just move
14:40 jojoa1997|Tablet how do i make a mod load from outside of mods folder
14:41 Kacey unetbootin went all unresponsive and junk
14:41 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, with dofile()
14:41 PilzAdam but thats not good IMO
14:42 jojoa1997|Tablet but like in the minitest game file
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14:42 PilzAdam just leave them as completly seperate mods
14:42 Octupus Deep
14:43 Octupus Water
14:43 jojoa1997|Tablet if mod_optifine == true then
14:43 jojoa1997|Tablet i want to do that
14:44 PilzAdam no
14:44 jojoa1997|Tablet and there will be a config file that hass all the setting to false of course
14:44 jojoa1997|Tablet so in config.txt
14:44 jojoa1997|Tablet mod_optifine = false
14:44 Kacey still not responsive
14:44 jojoa1997|Tablet then in init.lua
14:44 Kacey hi Octupus
14:44 jojoa1997|Tablet if mod_optifine == true then
14:45 jojoa1997|Tablet dofile(blah)
14:46 Kacey bbiab
14:56 KikaRz !up vanessae.mine.bz
14:56 KikaRz ??? Why it's not working?
14:56 KikaRz !help
14:56 KikaRz sfan5, can you please unmute me on bot?
14:56 sfan5 !unignore KikaRz
14:56 MinetestBot sfan5: 'KikaRz' removed from ignore list.
14:57 KikaRz !up vanessae.mine.bz
14:57 MinetestBot vanessae.mine.bz:30000 is up (0.512ms)
14:57 KikaRz Thank you.
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15:10 sfan5 !up 178.132.138.167
15:10 MinetestBot 178.132.138.167:30000 seems to be down
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15:13 KikaRz What's that server?
15:13 KikaRz !help
15:13 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
15:16 KikaRz !sfu Worldedit
15:16 MinetestBot KikaRz: No Results found
15:16 KikaRz !sfu World
15:16 MinetestBot KikaRz: No Results found
15:16 KikaRz Really? -.-
15:16 Exio did you mean !stfu?
15:17 KikaRz Nope.
15:17 KikaRz !stfu World
15:17 KikaRz Nope. It's to search threads in Minetest Forum
15:17 KikaRz sfan5, how i search something using bot?
15:17 Jordach !sfu Jordach
15:17 sfan5 KikaRz: its to search users
15:17 MinetestBot Jordach Member 2,932 posts, registered on 2011-10-03 | id: 332
15:17 KikaRz Users?
15:17 KikaRz Ugghh.
15:17 Jordach !sfu Kika*
15:18 MinetestBot KikaRz New member 6 posts, registered on 2012-03-21 | id: 1522
15:18 KikaRz ...
15:18 Jordach !sfu celeron*
15:18 KikaRz I wanted to search Threads, you could add that...
15:18 MinetestBot celeron55 Administrator 328 posts, registered on 2011-04-19 | id: 2
15:18 MinetestBot Celeron56 Banned 1 posts, registered on 2012-08-28 | id: 2834
15:18 KikaRz :)
15:18 KikaRz !sfu bot*
15:18 MinetestBot botokiller New member 1 posts, registered on 2012-12-19 | id: 3834
15:18 MinetestBot botroncatsfaf New member 0 posts, registered on 2011-11-16 | id: 648
15:19 sfan5 !sfu *bot*
15:19 KikaRz Will you add a option to the bot, sfan5 ?
15:19 MinetestBot sfan5: Too many matches: 8
15:19 sfan5 KikaRz: which one
15:19 KikaRz Thread Search
15:19 KikaRz and if possible, to appear in private.
15:20 KikaRz like... !tsf "nameofthread" "private/public"
15:20 KikaRz private = appears in query
15:20 KikaRz public = appears in irc channel
15:20 KikaRz to avoid spam.
15:20 Jordach !c 2.71828^3.141 - 3.141
15:20 MinetestBot 19.9859334
15:20 Jordach !c 2.71828^3.142 - 3.142
15:20 MinetestBot 20.0080719
15:20 KikaRz !rev Ifyoucanreadthismessage,you'reabot.
15:20 MinetestBot .tobaer'uoy,egassemsihtdaernacuoyfI
15:20 Jordach you have floating point issues sfan5
15:21 KikaRz !rev .tobaer'uoy,egassemsihtdaernacuoyfI
15:21 MinetestBot Ifyoucanreadthismessage,you'reabot.
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15:21 KikaRz xd
15:21 sfan5 Jordach: tell that the guys at google calculator
15:21 * Calinou is making lots of changes to moreblocks
15:21 Calinou added a new kind of stair too
15:21 sfan5 KikaRz: what if i told you... if you send minetestbot a command in query, it'll respond in query
15:21 Jordach sfan5, http://xkcd.com/217/
15:21 KikaRz I know.
15:22 Jordach <Jordach> !c 2.71828^3.141 - 3.141
15:22 Jordach <MinetestBot> 19.9859334
15:22 Jordach which clearly makes your bot wrong
15:22 sfan5 that makes google wrong
15:22 KikaRz lol
15:22 KikaRz sfan5, but you could add a thread search command?
15:23 sfan5 yes
15:23 sfan5 Jordach: http://xkcd.com/1200/
15:23 KikaRz When? *w*
15:24 Jordach http://xkcd.com/1137/
15:24 Jordach sfan5, your reverser should use iot
15:24 Jordach it(
15:24 Jordach it**
15:24 sfan5 Jordach: why can you read my mind? i just wanted to give you the same link.. :(
15:24 KikaRz lawl...
15:25 Jordach sfan5, i've been experimenting with psychic tech
15:25 KikaRz !rev They didn't even... What the hell? How did you... asshole
15:25 MinetestBot elohssa ...uoy did woH ?lleh eht tahW ...neve t'ndid yehT
15:25 KikaRz XD
15:25 sfan5 Jordach: i won't use it, because that requires an irc client that supports utf-8
15:26 Jordach sfan5, when did IRC adopt utf-8
15:26 Jordach oh yeah: a year ago
15:26 Jordach its a standard sfan5
15:26 sfan5 ‮test
15:26 sfan5 woop
15:26 sfan5 *woops
15:26 sfan5 ‮this is backwards
15:26 sfan5 Jordach: try out: Ctrl+Shift+u, type 202e, then enter
15:26 Jordach sfan5, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat#Modern_IRC
15:27 KikaRz Meteor Shower Lyrids
15:27 KikaRz *W*
15:27 sfan5 Jordach: many irc client use a mixture of ascii and latin as default
15:27 Jordach sfan5, Today, the UTF-8 encoding of Unicode/ISO 10646 would be the most likely contender for a single future standard character encoding for all IRC communication, if such standard ever relaxed the 510 bytes message size restriction. UTF-8 is ASCII compatible and covers the superset of all other commonly used coded character set standards.
15:27 KikaRz sfan5, Ctrl + Shift + u don't works for me... appears registered users.
15:27 RealBadAngel "small" window ;) http://i.imgur.com/p00Lyen.png
15:27 Jordach RealBadAngel, connected nodes ftw
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15:28 Jordach hmmmm, i should buy you a coffee
15:28 Jordach because you can then turn it into code
15:28 Jordach :)
15:28 sfan5 KikaRz: windows?
15:28 TheBonsai "a mixture of ascii and latin" sounds weird
15:28 KikaRz sfan5, windows KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium
15:28 sfan5 TheBonsai: indeed
15:29 Calinou lol GNOME community, RealBadAngel
15:29 Calinou are you trolling on gnome 3 again :P
15:29 KikaRz RealBadAngel, what's that OS?
15:29 sfan5 KikaRz: that shortcut only works with gnome
15:29 Calinou KikaRz: debian
15:29 KikaRz sfan5 :(
15:29 Calinou (rusty)
15:29 KikaRz Calinou, Debian what?
15:29 Jordach Rusty
15:29 KikaRz Calinou, It supports Steam?
15:29 Calinou no
15:29 Jordach KikaRz, yes
15:29 Calinou not officially
15:29 KikaRz Jordach, really? *W*
15:29 Jordach if you like hacking the system
15:29 Calinou officialy, (k/x/l)ubuntu and mint support steam
15:29 KikaRz Calinou, so, in which form?
15:29 KikaRz Jordach, How?
15:29 RealBadAngel debian
15:29 * Jordach prefers ubuntu
15:29 KikaRz Calinou, XD That's cool
15:30 KikaRz Realbadangel, someone have said me already.
15:30 KikaRz Jordach, i prefer too, but I can't install it :(
15:31 Zeg9 Calinou: isn't it more like Steam supports *buntu ?
15:31 Jordach !c 8^2
15:31 MinetestBot 64
15:31 KikaRz Jordach, are you kidding with us? you don't know 8 multiples?
15:32 KikaRz "8" multiples
15:32 Jordach KikaRz, no, i forgot my squares
15:32 KikaRz Jordach, XD
15:32 Jordach and its generally faster to ask MinetestBot
15:32 Jordach hi MinetestBot :)
15:32 KikaRz !c (444^3)+(322^2)-2+3*333
15:32 MinetestBot 87 633 065
15:32 Calinou Zeg9: they do mention mint from time to time
15:32 Calinou so I count it as supported
15:32 KikaRz Cool! A Good glitch
15:32 Calinou besides that, it's based on ubuntu (except for the debian edition)
15:33 Zeg9 I ment, Steam supports *buntu and mint
15:34 KikaRz guys, who can compile me latest minetest version for me?
15:34 KikaRz in Portuguese, preferencially.
15:35 Zeg9 I can compile but for which os and architecture?
15:35 KikaRz sfan5, i've fixed Portuguese translation. Exit = Sair, and not Saída.
15:35 KikaRz Windows 7 Ultimate - Damn Microsex.
15:35 KikaRz i386
15:35 KikaRz 32-bit
15:35 Jordach Microsex, is that a new porn industry
15:35 KikaRz x86
15:35 KikaRz No, it's Microsoft p*rn industries.
15:35 Zeg9 I'll need to compile irrlicht for mingw32 then...
15:36 KikaRz Yea... Maybe.
15:36 KikaRz since i dont have windows 7 x64/64-bit cd...
15:36 KikaRz and i have a 64 bit processor...
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15:37 KikaRz back.
15:38 Zeg9 Do you need directx support?
15:38 Jordach <KikaRZ> yes.
15:38 Zeg9 Then it won't be from me, sorry...
15:38 KikaRz Yes.
15:38 KikaRz Thank you Jordach...
15:39 KikaRz Well, if you don't have D3D/DirectX support, no problem... i'll be lagging a lot at 10 fps... or minus.
15:39 KikaRz !c 10-10/3
15:39 MinetestBot 6.66666667
15:39 KikaRz ok
15:39 KikaRz at 6.666667
15:39 KikaRz fps
15:40 Jordach !c (70/16)*60
15:40 MinetestBot 262.5
15:41 Jordach !c 60/(70/16)
15:41 MinetestBot 13.7142857
15:41 Jordach KikaRz, thats your average FPS
15:41 KikaRz ?
15:41 KikaRz what?
15:41 KikaRz my average what?
15:41 Jordach 60hz monitor#
15:41 markveidemanis !c 118118118
15:41 KikaRz lol?
15:42 Jordach divided by view range average of 70, and then by 16 pixels as the texture pack
15:42 KikaRz !c 118118118=188188188-70
15:42 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
15:42 Jordach lets say VanessaE has a 120hz monitor, view range of 170 and 256px
15:42 KikaRz Oooh!
15:42 KikaRz Ok.
15:42 Jordach !c 120/(170/256)
15:42 MinetestBot 180.705882
15:42 Jordach that should be a rough guide to average fps in OpenGL
15:43 markveidemanis how do i fond my monitor
15:43 Jordach markveidemanis, youre 60hz
15:43 Jordach youre a laptop
15:43 markveidemanis 60/35/16
15:44 KikaRz 188188188-70
15:44 KikaRz !c 188188188-70
15:44 MinetestBot 188 188 118
15:44 Jordach !c 60/(35/16)
15:44 MinetestBot 27.4285714
15:44 KikaRz lol.
15:44 KikaRz Jordach...
15:44 KikaRz sfan5, it's my build ready?
15:44 Jordach markveidemanis, 27.4285714
15:44 markveidemanis not bad...
15:44 markveidemanis :(
15:45 Jordach !c 60/(35/8)
15:45 MinetestBot 13.7142857
15:45 markveidemanis I need a text to speech cystem
15:45 markveidemanis system
15:46 KikaRz http://www.google.pt/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=2&amp;cad=rja&amp;ved=0CEIQFjAB&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fmary.dfki.de%2F&amp;ei=yQl0UZvYFq-O7QbT5oCgBA&amp;usg=AFQjCNEnhb6paaZ2CH5DxZv739wattIc8g&amp;sig2=qmaDVwmQ9vfyQNXOqGLZJg&amp;bvm=bv.45512109,d.ZGU
15:46 KikaRz mary.
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15:49 sfan5 KikaRz: what?
15:50 KikaRz sfan5, it's my build alrady finished?
15:50 sfan5 which build?
15:50 Kacey Ubuntu takes a while to install...
15:51 Zeg9 Well, it's faster than M$'s "os"...
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15:51 Calinou VanessaE: I almost finished converting moreblocks to 6d facedir, but won't old maps be totally broken?
15:51 Jordach <lawenforcer> god you are one ugly fat motherfucker
15:52 mauvebic not if you use abms to convert them
15:52 Jordach i just got that in pm
15:52 Calinou how can I set the facedir of a node?
15:52 Calinou (6d)
15:52 KikaRz sfan5, it's this the latest build http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.6-c45c530-win32.7z ?
15:52 mauvebic add node, and specify a param2
15:53 mauvebic fun fact: unknown nodes retain their param2, so you dont need to implement conversion right away if you dont want to
15:53 * sfan5 notes 189.191.147.219 on his list
15:53 Calinou cool :P
15:53 Jordach sfan5, same as me
15:53 Jordach a certain lawenforcer
15:54 KikaRz Who can give me a LATEST build..
15:54 KikaRz ?
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16:01 BlockMen hi
16:01 Jordach2 hey BlockMen
16:02 Kacey Jordach2, /nick Jordach
16:02 Jordach2 Kacey, no
16:02 Kacey * Jordach has quit (Quit: Leaving)
16:02 Jordach2 LandMine is about again
16:02 BlockMen landmine?
16:02 Jordach2 a greifef
16:02 Kacey aaw
16:02 Jordach2 griefer*
16:02 BlockMen oh..ic
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16:03 Kacey 1 minute left...
16:03 markveidemanis Who wants to paint on my server ?
16:03 markveidemanis 86.158.246.201
16:03 Kacey i guess i can
16:04 markveidemanis /go paint when you're on
16:09 sfan5 KikaRz: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.6-03868ff-win32.7z
16:09 sfan5 !c Jordach^2
16:09 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
16:09 KikaRz That's the today build?
16:09 sfan5 yes
16:09 sfan5 built 4 mins ago
16:09 KikaRz Ok
16:11 Jordach^2 [off
16:12 mauvebic why does LM have a hardon for you?
16:12 thexyz not by me though
16:13 thexyz but by ilbot creator
16:13 Kacey 15 minutes to unoack an iso?
16:14 sfan5 !g +R user mode irc
16:14 MinetestBot sfan5: http://docs.dal.net/docs/modes.html
16:15 Jordach^3 * Jordach^3 sets mode +R Jordach^3
16:16 * sfan5 notes 204.93.60.49
16:17 markveidemanis Give me a classic parkour map
16:17 markveidemanis Thats clear; no signs
16:17 markveidemanis just a cobble box with blocks and lava
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16:20 Mustek Hey guys, the guy who just got DC'd by the freenode antispam, it was in our channel.
16:21 sfan5 LandMine...
16:21 Mustek no, cripper
16:21 Mustek unless he is landmine ofcourse
16:21 Jordach^3 Mustek, correct
16:21 sfan5 probably landmine
16:21 Jordach^3 /umode +R is handy
16:21 * sfan5 has already noted 204.93.60.49 on his list
16:21 Jordach^3 but freenode doesnt have umode +C
16:22 Jordach^3 annoyingly enough
16:22 Jordach^3 anyways, i've been practicing my 8px arts
16:22 Jordach^3 http://i.imgur.com/J03U0DF.png
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16:22 Mustek Are you guys working on your own textures yet?
16:22 Jordach there we go
16:22 Mustek or is that a pack?
16:23 Jordach Mustek, im making my own
16:23 Kacey http://youtu.be/pfxB5ut-KTs
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16:30 BlockMen does someone know why i the hud text does not change with 'player:hud_change(hudid, "text", "abc")'?
16:30 Mortvert You guys need to keep your users at a leash or something
16:30 mauvebic you talking about cripper?
16:30 Jordach hey Mortvert
16:30 Mortvert * cripper (cc5d3c31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.204.93.60.49) has joined #minecraft
16:30 Mortvert <cripper>  why do you call me a fagg, you are the one in the closet men posit their dicks in you, you cant fuck with the ryhmes i composite men show you their salad and you toss it its dark in that closet you are in, your plush toys are in there my jacket is in there, your moms sex toys are in there, the guys who fucked your dad is in there get of my sack queer! BIIIITCH  #minetest RUUUULZZZZ
16:30 Mortvert * cripper (cc5d3c31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.204.93.60.49) Quit (Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)))
16:30 mauvebic what do you want us to do with him?
16:30 KikaRz Stop spamming.
16:30 mauvebic hes not ours
16:30 Mortvert mauvebic - surely? His spam would say otherwise.
16:30 Jordach Mortvert, hes a well known griefer
16:30 mauvebic all we can do is kick him from this channel
16:30 mauvebic yeah he mentions minetest to bring problems here, you see how well it worked
16:31 Jordach Mortvert, he came into the dev channel as well:
16:31 Jordach <WInterspoon> whats wrong kangaroo fucker? cant handle your own?
16:31 * Mortvert sighs
16:31 Mortvert I belive he was called landmine some time ago
16:31 mauvebic yes
16:31 Kacey lol i remember when i said stuff on #minecraft
16:31 mauvebic he's a known griefer
16:31 Jordach Mortvert, youve dealt with him too
16:31 Mortvert Next time you see him in here, deliver a Shining Wizard to him.
16:31 Jordach check our banlist and copy the 189.*.*.*
16:31 mauvebic all we can do is complain to freenode
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16:32 Jordach and 188.*.*.*
16:32 mauvebic though he'd been quiet for a long time before
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16:34 Jordach Mortvert, i understand your problem with him too
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16:35 Mortvert Jordach - this isn't exactly first time this happend, that's why i came here.
16:36 Jordach OldCoder and I have had to deal with him for a long time
16:36 mauvebic oldcoder even seems to sortof like him
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16:36 Jordach mauvebic, when hes not an ass
16:38 Jordach Mortvert, at least you didnt jump to any form of conclusion like other admins
16:38 OldCoder Hi
16:39 mauvebic howdy
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16:39 Jordach OldCoder, LM or his variants have been rampant across freenode again
16:39 OldCoder Rampant?
16:39 Jordach as in, mad
16:39 OldCoder Is he letting off steam?
16:39 OldCoder Angry?
16:39 Jordach <Mortvert> * cripper (cc5d3c31@gateway/web/freenode/ip.204.93.60.49) Quit (Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)))
16:39 mauvebic prolly just doing it for shits and giggles
16:39 OldCoder Jordach, my own situation may resolve soon
16:39 Jordach ooh
16:39 OldCoder If it does I can pay attention to this again
16:40 OldCoder It all sort of hit the fan on Friday
16:40 mauvebic ?
16:40 OldCoder LM must do as he feels he must; and so must the rest of us
16:40 sfan5 Jordach: 188.*.*.* is a bit much, isn't it?
16:40 OldCoder Heh
16:40 OldCoder That is quite a bit swath
16:40 Mortvert notice his new ip
16:40 Mortvert 204.92.60.49
16:40 OldCoder Go on
16:41 OldCoder Is it significant?
16:41 Mortvert Well, he can pretty much waltz in here?
16:41 OldCoder Then
16:41 mauvebic im sure theres no shortage of proxies
16:41 OldCoder Yep
16:41 sfan5 according to "vim iplist.txt" one comes from the USA and one from Mexico(where he actually lives)
16:41 OldCoder If you wish me to talk to him, I will do so
16:41 OldCoder But I can't ATM as I got sh*t to deal with here
16:42 mauvebic my own geolocation says miami even though im in canda lol
16:42 mauvebic *canada
16:42 OldCoder There is more to him BTW than meets the eye and some of you know it... I'd like to understand but I don't have the resources
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16:43 mauvebic i have a hard time believing he's a bot though
16:43 OldCoder Whatever he really is, I'd like to write about it
16:43 OldCoder He is not
16:43 OldCoder I learned recently he is human
16:43 OldCoder Bots don't make certain types of mistakes
16:43 OldCoder And they don't have feelings
16:44 * Kacey wishes LM would grow up already
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16:44 harrison i am not a bot per se
16:44 OldCoder Kacey, that is not what he is for; each of him is for a different person
16:44 OldCoder harrison, Hi!
16:45 harrison i am an advanced AI
16:45 OldCoder * different purpose
16:45 OldCoder Typo
16:45 OldCoder harrison, very well
16:45 harrison the first one to pass the double-reverse turing test
16:45 OldCoder "This statement is a lie!" :P
16:45 Jordach OldCoder, is the resolution 1920x1080?
16:45 OldCoder Jordach, Could be
16:45 Jordach OldCoder, i cloned your site
16:45 OldCoder Jordach, I have made ZIP files
16:45 harrison by successfully posing as a human who is preending to be a bot
16:45 Jordach will be placing a copy on my own vps
16:46 OldCoder Of both the technical and the blog
16:46 OldCoder Jordach, the blog?
16:46 thexyz sfan5: just ban 0.0.0.0/0 already
16:46 Jordach entirely
16:46 OldCoder Jordach, do you wish one of the domains?
16:46 sfan5 thexyz: that'll do it
16:46 Jordach OldCoder, i run my own domain currently
16:46 OldCoder I mean... take one of my domains
16:46 sfan5 (except he gets IPv6)
16:46 OldCoder To protect it
16:46 Jordach OldCoder, its a free .tk domain
16:46 sfan5 anyway, we got his realy ip
16:46 Kacey OldCoder, have you seen the pOng project?
16:46 OldCoder Jordach, Let me give you one of mine too
16:46 Jordach thanks
16:46 OldCoder Kacey, I am preoccupied
16:47 OldCoder Can do very little
16:47 Kacey lol
16:47 OldCoder Jordach, see me in PM this week
16:47 Jordach OldCoder, at least your still heart
16:47 sfan5 Jordach: jordachscity.tk violates the term of dot.tk
16:47 OldCoder Here? Possibly not for long
16:47 OldCoder They're not going to stop; but this is a subject for PM and not public
16:47 Jordach sfan5, er what
16:48 OldCoder Jordach, closing note; I am formally transferring my domains. See me in PM this week and let's get you ownership of one.
16:48 sfan5 the terms of dot.tk states that any .tk domain must have a real website on it, NOT "under construction" or "It works! foo bar..."
16:49 Jordach sfan5, ah
16:49 OldCoder sfan5, .tk domains don't really last anyway
16:49 * sfan5 actually read the terms
16:49 OldCoder Usually
16:49 sfan5 OldCoder: ik
16:49 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8sK5v6o8bQ
16:49 sfan5 what the people on #minecraft are doing:  <Ausmerica> Draw boobs next, Nikondork.
16:50 Kacey gas powered stick! Never runs outta gas!
16:50 Jordach sfan5, time to vnc to my server again
16:50 sfan5 Jordach: a gui on a vps is really weird
16:51 Jordach sfan5, im not a fan of operating a minetest server with cp and mv
16:51 sfan5 its your choice ;)
16:51 Jordach im in
16:54 Nikondork sfan5 pls
16:54 Xenorax Here, http://i.imgur.com/jViXDsi.gif
16:56 Jordach sfan5, visit the site now
16:56 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Fix hud_change stat argument retrieval 14ba94ad6a 2013-04-21T09:55:46-07:00 http://git.io/a5KniA
16:57 sfan5 Jordach: s/http:\/\/jordachscity.tk\/map.png/<a href="http:\/\/jordachscity.tk\/map.png">map.png</a>/
16:57 Jordach fuck it
16:57 Jordach at least it aint violating anymore
16:58 thexyz sfan5: colons
16:58 sfan5 ohh.. right
16:58 Calinou new moreblocks/maptools
16:59 Calinou beware: updating moreblocks can cause a lot of breakage for ow
16:59 Calinou now*
16:59 BlockMen sfan5, could you make a windows build with this comitted fix: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/14ba94ad6a0e2176106af08e41d99ad81b03e9e4
17:00 sfan5 BlockMen: working..
17:00 Calinou VanessaE: read: you do not want to update it for now :P
17:00 BlockMen sfan5, great :)
17:01 Calinou (pull requests that fix compatibility with older versions would be appreciated)
17:01 Calinou it took me almost 2 hours to do the whole thing already ;)
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17:04 Calinou (misa and MCE updates are on the way too, for the new moreblocks)
17:05 sfan5 BlockMen: uploading...
17:07 sfan5 BlockMen: done.. dl at http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/
17:07 BlockMen sfan5, o.O! that was fast! thx
17:09 BlockMen sfan, umm...which one?
17:09 sfan5 the one which says "latest"
17:10 BlockMen i asked because the is one under last...
17:10 BlockMen *lastest
17:12 markveidemanis I need someone to make me a map
17:13 markveidemanis PM me if you think you are excellent at making maps, i will tell you my ideas (theres a lot)
17:15 * Calinou found 8 diamonds in minecraft
17:15 Calinou creeper came near, exploded, but didn't destroy them
17:16 Xenorax Heh.
17:17 Xenorax I'd play Minecraft, but I hate Java so much.
17:17 BlockMen lm has ip 209.73.151.35, he was annoying me
17:17 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaTY2Zw/screenshot_402225336.png simple markup of how it will look
17:17 Xenorax In Minetest, I have like 105 or so mods on my server, and it lags SO much less than Minecraft with that many mods.
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17:18 Kacey 105?
17:18 Kacey o.O
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17:19 thexyz depends on what mods are you using
17:19 thexyz simple block-adders won't lag at all
17:20 khonkhortisan Why do both minetestmapper.py and onomatopoeia predefine the nodes instead of reading them from the mods?
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17:22 mauvebic FAT32 or NTFS for win7 partition?
17:23 Kacey minetest is eating my cpu
17:23 mauvebic om nom nom
17:23 thexyz > 2013
17:23 thexyz > FAT32
17:23 mauvebic 2013?
17:23 Jordach mauvebic, ntfs
17:23 thexyz wait, let me check it
17:23 Jordach because it supports files over 4GB
17:24 mauvebic 2013, == at least two gigs?
17:24 mauvebic how many game files exceed 4 gigs?
17:24 Xenorax I want to make a partition that only supports porn. I shall call it. NSFW.
17:24 mauvebic lol
17:24 mauvebic porn partition = file paths keep changing to throw off the wife lol
17:24 thexyz game files?
17:25 mauvebic well some games pack their files into these huge archives, but i havent seen any that would go beyond 4 gigs
17:25 thexyz well, movies?
17:25 thexyz chinese cartoons?
17:25 mauvebic dragon ball yeah lol
17:25 mauvebic naw this isn't for watching movies, im setting aside 100 gigs for gaming
17:25 mauvebic im gonna have to repair grub afterwards
17:26 Xenorax Best idea ever.
17:26 mauvebic but ill deal with that when i get there
17:26 thexyz no point in using fat32
17:26 mauvebic ntfs then
17:27 sfan5 Xenorax: you mean like .. "ln -s .. folder"
17:28 markveidemanis shortcuts?
17:30 mauvebic good tool to edit ISO's in linux to add files (drivers)?
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17:31 Koren you tried with the streams ? >> and >
17:31 thexyz mauvebic: doesn't mount work?
17:31 mauvebic shit me yeah thats pretty obvious lol
17:31 mauvebic been a long time since i did that though
17:32 markveidemanis do i need the src file to run minetest?
17:32 markveidemanis *FOLDER
17:32 Koren if you have the binary no
17:32 Jordach markveidemanis, nope.
17:33 Calinou thexyz: universal compatibility, sadly
17:33 Calinou some mobos will only boot on FAT32 USB drives
17:33 Calinou FAT32 is recognized read+write on any OS
17:33 tri2d2 Calinou: i miss u
17:34 Calinou <Xenorax> I'd play Minecraft, but I hate Java so much.
17:34 Calinou hello java hater
17:36 markveidemanis lol forgot, who was helping me with the map?
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17:36 KikaRz sfan5, can you send me the updated build?
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17:37 KikaRz huh?
17:37 Exio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juqyzgnbspY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhsy6epaJGs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx8s6ZACZFU
17:37 Exio * http://www.youtube.com/user/pulcinopiotv
17:39 KikaRz !logs
17:40 KikaRz Calinou, Jordach or someone, where are the logs?
17:40 Exio /topic
17:40 Jordach KikaRz, irc.minetest.ru
17:40 KikaRz Ok, sorry, it's already here
17:40 KikaRz Telek, my son, are you there? <3
17:40 KikaRz ?
17:41 Jordach telek aint here
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17:43 Deivan wow...  The moreblocks mod give me a huge task now...  :-o
17:43 Deivan I have 20% of all my constructions with unknow blocks now. :-o
17:44 Deivan Very funny.  Huhahaha.
17:44 Deivan AFK
17:44 thexyz Calinou: who cares about "universal compatibility"?
17:44 sfan5 KikaRz: just download minetest-0.4.6-14ba94a-win32.7z on http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds
17:44 Kacey I failed my Health and Safety Test. The question was, "What steps would you take, in case of a fire? "Big F*cking Ones" was, apparently, the wrong answer.
17:45 Xenorax How can that wrong?
17:46 Xenorax I mean, sure, there are obvious steps, but those can have you burned or something..sometimes.
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17:50 KikaRz Sorry
17:52 Deivan Calinou, I posted a proposal to fix the trouble with the changes in moreblocks mod.  Maybe is the better path...  AFK
17:54 KikaRz sfan5 thinks that MC = MT -.-
17:54 sfan5 i don't
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17:55 Kacey God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the weaponry to handle it in either case!!
17:55 Xenorax You're funny.
17:57 Calinou Deivan: please use "edit" instead of double posting next time, too :)
17:57 Xenorax Yeah, Devian needs to do that.
17:58 Xenorax While I'm not a member of your forum or anything, I've been looking at random mods and things, and his topics tend to have like... 10 posts after each other.
17:58 Deivan Ops, sorry, I edited the last post two times, maybe I lost my previous post.
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18:01 Deivan RL is calling.  Cya.
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18:05 Calinou moreblocks update
18:05 Calinou slightly better compatibility
18:06 mauvebic how long does it take to resize a 400g partition? been at it for 20 minutes now lol
18:06 Calinou depends
18:06 mauvebic should start counting it in beers lol
18:07 mauvebic got two dvds, one with win7 and one with drivers (simpler)
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18:08 mauvebic good thing ogb aint around right now lol
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18:09 kaeza greetings
18:09 mauvebic hola
18:10 Kacey hi kaeza
18:10 Exio hi kaeza
18:11 kaeza hi kaeza
18:11 kaeza oops
18:11 mauvebic lol
18:11 Exio nobody said anything about (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juqyzgnbspY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhsy6epaJGs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx8s6ZACZFU) :[
18:11 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaTY2Zw/screenshot_402225336.png
18:12 kaeza pong in mesecons?
18:12 mauvebic no space invaders or donkey kong?
18:12 mauvebic or duck hunt with the gun lol
18:12 Kacey pong
18:13 Kacey want to join kaeza?
18:13 mauvebic what about a giant TV?
18:13 mauvebic each node could be like the rgb pixels in those old tube tvs
18:13 KikaRz Come to VanessaE's server! vanessae.mine.bz ! :D Now online!
18:14 kaeza Kacey maybe later
18:14 Kacey ok
18:14 * kaeza just got up
18:14 kaeza 15:14
18:15 Exio 13:37
18:15 sfan5 20:15
18:15 Jordach 19:15
18:15 kaeza Exio, haha yeah right
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18:21 Kacey minetest is taking 49% of my cpu
18:21 mauvebic om nom nom
18:21 Kacey 59%
18:22 EduardeCalibal Kacey, I think you have a broblem with mobs or mobf.  Here is to problematic to..  :-/
18:22 Kacey no mobs
18:22 Kacey just mesecons and a few small mods
18:22 EduardeCalibal oO
18:22 EduardeCalibal I don't know then the cause.
18:22 mauvebic anything unified?
18:22 EduardeCalibal Maybe mineral generation?
18:23 EduardeCalibal Calinou, I think the alias idea don't is correct to this problem.
18:23 EduardeCalibal :-/
18:23 Exio Kacey: you shouldn't care about that
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18:23 EduardeCalibal Ops, my nick changed...  :-o
18:24 kaeza Kacey, which CPU?
18:24 Kacey ?
18:24 kaeza I usually get 100% out of one core
18:24 kaeza even when "idling"
18:24 Exio ^ same
18:24 Deivan I reconfigured the game to 30 fps.
18:25 khonkhortisan I usually get 200% cpu, 100+% memory
18:25 Deivan In the max.
18:25 jojoa1997|Tablet PilzAdam one i get the delayer working i will release
18:26 Deivan The game is working here at 40%~55% of CPU.
18:26 Deivan And 27% of memmory.
18:27 Deivan Well, then, about moreblocks, now, afther the fix of fix I have some yellow blocks in the place of windows.
18:27 Deivan And many invalid here.
18:27 Kacey I've always wanted to put a one way sign on a dead end road, then sit and watch what people do.
18:27 Deivan Well, I will product a correction function and release the code in you topic.  AFK
18:36 Calinou normally there are aliases
18:36 Calinou eg. moreblocks:stair_stone_inverted will convert to moreblocks:stair_stone
18:36 Calinou it is not the solution to the problem, it's temporary
18:36 Calinou much better than nothing (unknown nodes)
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18:43 KikaRz hey
18:43 KikaRz how i invert the signal of mesecons?
18:44 Jordach mesecon torch
18:44 KikaRz Deivan, sabes como inverter o sinal ?
18:44 Kacey or a NOT gate
18:45 Deivan Kikarz, I don't user mesecons, sorry...  :-/
18:45 Deivan AFK
18:45 KikaRz kaeza, do you know how i invert mesecon signal?
18:47 sfan5 hi MinetestBot
18:47 MinetestBot Hi sfan5
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18:48 kaeza KikaRz, with a NOT gate?
18:48 kaeza Solar Panel -> NOT gate -> signal at night
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18:50 q66 someone ban domeblaster
18:50 Morrolan How rude.
18:50 roboman2444 whaaaat
18:50 domeblaster Jordach why do you call me a fagg, you are the one in the closet men posit their dicks in you, you cant fuck with the ryhmes i composite men show you their salad and you toss it its dark in that closet you are in, your plush toys are in there my jacket is in there, your moms sex toys are in there, the guys who fucked your dad is in there get of my sack queer! BIIIITCH
18:50 domeblaster Jordach why do you call me a fagg, you are the one in the closet men posit their dicks in you, you cant fuck with the ryhmes i composite men show you their salad and you toss it its dark in that closet you are in, your plush toys are in there my jacket is in there, your moms sex toys are in there, the guys who fucked your dad is in there get of my sack queer! BIIIITCH
18:50 domeblaster Jordach why do you call me a fagg, you are the one in the closet men posit their dicks in you, you cant fuck with the ryhmes i composite men show you their salad and you toss it its dark in that closet you are in, your plush toys are in there my jacket is in there, your moms sex toys are in there, the guys who fucked your dad is in there get of my sack queer! BIIIITCH
18:50 domeblaster Jordach why do you call me a fagg, you are the one in the closet men posit their dicks in you, you cant fuck with the ryhmes i composite men show you their salad and you toss it its dark in that closet you are in, your plush toys are in there my jacket is in there, your moms sex toys are in there, the guys who fucked your dad is in there get of my sack queer! BIIIITCH
18:50 domeblaster Jordach why do you call me a fagg, you are the one in the closet men posit their dicks in you, you cant fuck with the ryhmes i composite men show you their salad and you toss it its dark in that closet you are in, your plush toys are in there my jacket is in there, your moms sex toys are in there, the guys who fucked your dad is in there get of my sack queer! BIIIITCH
18:50 domeblaster Jordach why do you call me a fagg, you are the one in the closet men posit their dicks in you, you cant fuck with the ryhmes i composite men show you their salad and you toss it its dark in that closet you are in, your plush toys are in there my jacket is in there, your moms sex toys are in there, the guys who fucked your dad is in there get of my sack queer! BIIIITCH
18:50 domeblaster Jordach why do you call me a fagg, you are the one in the closet men posit their dicks in you, you cant fuck with the ryhmes i composite men show you their salad and you toss it its dark in that closet you are in, your plush toys are in there my jacket is in there, your moms sex toys are in there, the guys who fucked your dad is in there get of my sack queer! BIIIITCH
18:50 domeblaster Jordach why do you call me a fagg, you are the one in the closet men posit their dicks in you, you cant fuck with the ryhmes i composite men show you their salad and you toss it its dark in that closet you are in, your plush toys are in there my jacket is in there, your moms sex toys are in there, the guys who fucked your dad is in there get of my sack queer! BIIIITCH
18:50 domeblaster Jordach why do you call me a fagg, you are the one in the closet men posit their dicks in you, you cant fuck with the ryhmes i composite men show you their salad and you toss it its dark in that closet you are in, your plush toys are in there my jacket is in there, your moms sex toys are in there, the guys who fucked your dad is in there get of my sack queer! BIIIITCH
18:50 domeblaster Jordach why do you call me a fagg, you are the one in the closet men posit their dicks in you, you cant fuck with the ryhmes i composite men show you their salad and you toss it its dark in that closet you are in, your plush toys are in there my jacket is in there, your moms sex toys are in there, the guys who fucked your dad is in there get of my sack queer! BIIIITCH
18:50 domeblaster Jordach why do you call me a fagg, you are the one in the closet men posit their dicks in you, you cant fuck with the ryhmes i composite men show you their salad and you toss it its dark in that closet you are in, your plush toys are in there my jacket is in there, your moms sex toys are in there, the guys who fucked your dad is in there get of my sack queer! BIIIITCH
18:50 domeblaster Jordach why do you call me a fagg, you are the one in the closet men posit their dicks in you, you cant fuck with the ryhmes i composite men show you their salad and you toss it its dark in that closet you are in, your plush toys are in there my jacket is in there, your moms sex toys are in there, the guys who fucked your dad is in there get of my sack queer! BIIIITCH
18:50 domeblaster Jordach why do you call me a fagg, you are the one in the closet men posit their dicks in you, you cant fuck with the ryhmes i composite men show you their salad and you toss it its dark in that closet you are in, your plush toys are in there my jacket is in there, your moms sex toys are in there, the guys who fucked your dad is in there get of my sack queer! BIIIITCH
18:50 domeblaster Jordach why do you call me a fagg, you are the one in the closet men posit their dicks in you, you cant fuck with the ryhmes i composite men show you their salad and you toss it its dark in that closet you are in, your plush toys are in there my jacket is in there, your moms sex toys are in there, the guys who fucked your dad is in there get of my sack queer! BIIIITCH
18:50 Gambit lol
18:50 domeblaster Jordach why do you call me a fagg, you are the one in the closet men posit their dicks in you, you cant fuck with the ryhmes i composite men show you their salad and you toss it its dark in that closet you are in, your plush toys are in there my jacket is in there, your moms sex toys are in there, the guys who fucked your dad is in there get of my sack queer! BIIIITCH
18:50 domeblaster Jordach why do you call me a fagg, you are the one in the closet men posit their dicks in you, you cant fuck with the ryhmes i composite men show you their salad and you toss it its dark in that closet you are in, your plush toys are in there my jacket is in there, your moms sex toys are in there, the guys who fucked your dad is in there get of my sack queer! BIIIITCH
18:50 Morrolan 'fag' has one g only, honey.
18:50 Gambit so edgy
18:51 domeblaster Jordach why do you call me a fagg, you are the one in the closet men posit their dicks in you, you cant fuck with the ryhmes i composite men show you their salad and you toss it its dark in that closet you are in, your plush toys are in there my jacket is in there, your moms sex toys are in there, the guys who fucked your dad is in there get of my sack queer! BIIIITCH
18:51 domeblaster Jordach why do you call me a fagg, you are the one in the closet men posit their dicks in you, you cant fuck with the ryhmes i composite men show you their salad and you toss it its dark in that closet you are in, your plush toys are in there my jacket is in there, your moms sex toys are in there, the guys who fucked your dad is in there get of my sack queer! BIIIITCH
18:51 domeblaster Jordach why do you call me a fagg, you are the one in the closet men posit their dicks in you, you cant fuck with the ryhmes i composite men show you their salad and you toss it its dark in that closet you are in, your plush toys are in there my jacket is in there, your moms sex toys are in there, the guys who fucked your dad is in there get of my sack queer! BIIIITCH
18:51 Ristovski uhh
18:51 domeblaster Jordach why do you call me a fagg, you are the one in the closet men posit their dicks in you, you cant fuck with the ryhmes i composite men show you their salad and you toss it its dark in that closet you are in, your plush toys are in there my jacket is in there, your moms sex toys are in there, the guys who fucked your dad is in there get of my sack queer! BIIIITCHJordach why do you call me a fagg, you are the one in the cl
18:51 Ristovski wtf
18:51 Morrolan 'posit' is not a word, as far as I know.
18:51 roboman2444 look who is 12
18:51 Kray wat
18:51 Morrolan cant needs an apostrophe.
18:51 Matrixiumn .
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18:51 domeblaster \  Brndn Deivan dimeshake domeblaster drizz dzho ecube edwtjo Exio Final fortytwo FreeFull Fresh_me_ Gambit Jordach Jousway jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan KikaRz Koren Kray Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury PilzAdam preludelinux proller q66 RealBadAngel Ristovski roboman2444 rsiska ruskie salamanderrake ShadowNinja sokomine Someguy123 ssieb StrayBytes tango_ Taoki TB`oFF|Vibe-X Telek V0i
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18:51 Gambit VanessaE:
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18:51 roboman2444 how cute, he learned to swear!
18:51 domeblaster Brndn Deivan dimeshake domeblaster drizz dzho ecube edwtjo Exio Final fortytwo FreeFull Fresh_me_ Gambit Jordach Jousway jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan KikaRz Koren Kray Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury PilzAdam preludelinux proller q66 RealBadAngel Ristovski roboman2444 rsiska ruskie salamanderrake ShadowNinja sokomine Someguy123 ssieb StrayBytes tango_ Taoki TB`oFF|Vibe-X Telek V0id
18:51 domeblaster Brndn Deivan dimeshake domeblaster drizz dzho ecube edwtjo Exio Final fortytwo FreeFull Fresh_me_ Gambit Jordach Jousway jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan KikaRz Koren Kray Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury PilzAdam preludelinux proller q66 RealBadAngel Ristovski roboman2444 rsiska ruskie salamanderrake ShadowNinja sokomine Someguy123 ssieb StrayBytes tango_ Taoki TB`oFF|Vibe-X Telek V0id
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18:51 Kray this guy has a serious autism
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18:51 VanessaE missed.
18:51 Morrolan No, he's just angry. :)
18:51 Matrixiumn Kray: Oi!
18:51 Ristovski lol
18:51 Gambit Kray: That's pretty unneccessary. :
18:51 roboman2444 i wonder why?
18:51 StrayBytes Thank you. He almost segfaulted my client.
18:51 * Morrolan gives VanessaE a pat on the back
18:51 q66 he was on #gameboom earlier today
18:51 q66 under different nick
18:51 Jordach da fuq did i do
18:51 kaeza ah lol I missed LandMine
18:51 Morrolan StrayBytes: Err, get a new client. :P
18:52 roboman2444 he is using the webchat
18:52 VanessaE how long has that been going on?
18:52 * VanessaE just got up
18:52 StrayBytes I'm not using webchat,
18:52 Morrolan VanessaE: Not long.
18:52 roboman2444 so its likely he doesnt come here often
18:52 Morrolan Less than a minute.
18:52 kaeza it's interesting that he took the effort to not ping any OP
18:53 Morrolan Smart. :)
18:53 Gambit lol VanessaE woke up because she sensed a disturbance in the force
18:53 VanessaE lol
18:53 roboman2444 in the minetest
18:53 Jordach <Kray> this guy has a serious autism
18:53 Jordach hahaha
18:53 * sfan5 notes 209.73.151.35 on his list
18:53 Morrolan Jordach: So, why did you call him a fag again? :P
18:53 Jordach i did nothing
18:54 Morrolan And I had hoped for a nice story. :(
18:54 Morrolan Well, can't have everything, I guess.
18:54 Jordach Morrolan, yup
18:54 mauvebic jesus lol
18:54 VanessaE [04-21 11:42] <Jordach> lets say VanessaE has a 120hz monitor, view range of 170 and 256px   <--- fwiw, 60 Hz, range of 80, 512px. :-)
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18:54 salamanderrake ?
18:54 Jordach VanessaE, i was guessing
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18:55 Jordach !c 60/(80/512)
18:55 MinetestBot 384
18:55 Jordach VanessaE, your OGL FPS IS^
18:56 sfan5 landmines new ip comes from egihosting
18:56 VanessaE about 35.
18:56 KikaRz VanessaE?
18:56 sfan5 seems like they have some entries im spamhaus SBL: http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/listings/egihosting.com
18:56 KikaRz ? are you there?
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18:56 VanessaE (my fps ranges between about 25 and as high as 60, with an average of around 35)
18:57 VanessaE KikaRz: yes?
18:57 ShadowNinja sfan5: My bot can auto-kick spammers...
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18:59 sfan5 youtube is FUCKING slow
18:59 VanessaE sfan5: has been since....forever :)
18:59 BlockMen sfan, just from 17.00 - 22.00 in germany :P
18:59 mauvebic its also sunday
18:59 Exio sfan5: use webm
18:59 VanessaE (for me, especially after that last site redesign)
18:59 sfan5 i can't even watch a video in 480p
18:59 Exio they aren't limited
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18:59 mauvebic what else are people gonna do but surf the web/youtube
19:00 PilzAdam sfan5, add &gl=DE&hl=de to the URL
19:00 sfan5 Exio: i'll try that
19:00 sfan5 apparently i can't use the html5 player for that video
19:01 Jordach WAIT
19:01 Jordach PilzAdam, youre using YouTube which is owned by Google.
19:01 sfan5 PilzAdam: doesn't help
19:01 mauvebic no problem watching 1080p, maybe its your isp
19:01 PilzAdam Jordach, noscript and adblock+ blocks every google script there :-)
19:02 PilzAdam oh, and I told FF to ignore every cookie from *google*
19:02 VanessaE gevalt...17.3°C in this room.  perhaps I should turn on a heater...
19:02 Jordach its about 12'C in here and I am just wearing a t shirt
19:03 VanessaE I'm not acclimated to anything less than about 20.5
19:03 * VanessaE <-- cold-blooded :)
19:03 Exio 28C here
19:04 sfan5 mauvebic: watching it in 1080p makes it even slower
19:05 mauvebic what was the point of bringing back a thread only to close it? shoulda just kept it deleted
19:05 VanessaE Exio: 28? jeez, turn on some A/C
19:05 PilzAdam Jordach, also ProxTube to not have GEMA restrictions
19:06 VanessaE fuck GEMA, fuck the RIAA :-/
19:06 mauvebic closing a thread after getting the last word in isn't really getting the last word in lol
19:06 Exio VanessaE: what?
19:06 PilzAdam mauvebic, the posts at the beginning are pretty reasonable
19:07 mauvebic c55 wanted me to be honest, it could have stayed civil otherwise
19:07 VanessaE Exio: that would be considered rather hot, and also unhealthy (good breeding temperature for germs)
19:07 PilzAdam but they closed it because of this: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=85589#p85589
19:07 mauvebic yeah what exactly about that broke the rules?
19:07 Exio VanessaE: i'm used to 15C to 35C
19:07 mauvebic other than some people might not like it
19:07 ShadowNinja VanessaE: reminder to remove your dobe!*@* ban, I don't think it even would have worked, should have been something like dome*!*@*
19:07 Exio 30-35 is "hot" :P
19:08 VanessaE mauvebic: I think the whole point is to actually go to -dev and have a reasonable, detailed discussion.  Not spread hate on the forums.
19:08 PilzAdam mauvebic, no rules broken, just the discussion driving apart
19:08 mauvebic get about as much free speech as on a commercial game forum
19:08 VanessaE ShadowNinja: oops, forgot
19:08 mauvebic like i said, c55 wanted me to be honest, and im not the one who started bringing the thread down to that level
19:08 VanessaE (and tab-complete error at the time anyway)
19:09 mauvebic seems pretty intentional the point was to have a reason to close it
19:09 PilzAdam the whole discussion was pointless
19:09 ShadowNinja VanessaE: ah, I see then
19:10 VanessaE mauvebic: well then next time have your discussion on -dev as requested.
19:10 mauvebic to you perhaps, but censorship is censorship
19:10 VanessaE (and no, I wasn't the one who deleted those posts, not sure who did
19:10 KikaRz VanessaE?
19:10 KikaRz can you wake up?
19:10 mauvebic the OP wanted to discuss making an alternative release, c55's the one who came along knocking it
19:10 VanessaE I'm here, KikaRz
19:10 PilzAdam Calinou moved it to trash
19:11 PilzAdam after discussion on -dev it was brought back and closed
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19:11 mauvebic but left open long enough for onpon to respond, nice
19:11 VanessaE now to be fair, if celeron55 were just a normal member of the forums instead of the guy who started the project and runs the site, I'd probably have deleted a couple of his posts for violating the forum rules.
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19:12 mauvebic i dunno, everytime someone makes an ass of himself, you leave the thread there, open, even when they request a delete
19:12 mauvebic so to close that thread now, well it reaks of censorship
19:12 mauvebic *reeks or wtv
19:13 PilzAdam it isnt censored, its just closed
19:13 mauvebic same thing
19:13 PilzAdam no, everything is said
19:13 mauvebic shutting down a conversation IS censhorship
19:13 Exio mauvebic: what conversation
19:13 mauvebic everything is said? how do you know that everyone has had their say?
19:13 BlockMen lol. closing = censorship. made my day
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19:14 mauvebic well they can be pretty hypocritical, when you ask for a thread to be closed/deleted they never do
19:14 PilzAdam mauvebic, the discussion drifts appart, noone has added good arguments for one of the sites
19:14 mauvebic silent edits, delete posts without cause or explanation, that's censorship too
19:15 mauvebic maybe try cleaning up all the posts where people start knocking the idea of an alternative release, perhaps the descent would have stopped there?
19:15 PilzAdam what posts were edited or removed?
19:15 mauvebic one of mine was deleted
19:15 mauvebic other posts of mine before were edited with no reason given
19:15 mauvebic its pretty ball-less
19:16 Exio mauvebic: did people coded the "alternative release"? or just said "this is the way to code this, someone WILL do it"
19:17 PilzAdam ok, thats unfair
19:17 mauvebic the conversation never got that far exio, c55 started calling it ridiculous
19:19 mauvebic and i dont see how moving the conversation from one channel to the next changes anything, the responses would have been the same coming from the same people
19:19 Issa hello
19:19 Exio mauvebic: did you try it? or you are just guessing that?
19:19 Koren hello
19:20 VanessaE mauvebic: realtime conversation can sometimes stop an argument before it gets startd.
19:20 VanessaE +e
19:20 mauvebic weather hmmm mocks you here on in dev, does it make a difference?
19:20 VanessaE whereas a forum gives you time to brew and stew and vent, which is not good for the conversation.
19:20 Issa i m starting learn irrlicht
19:20 Issa it's really not easy :/
19:20 VanessaE Issa: my condolences :D
19:20 Issa lol
19:21 mauvebic on the contrary, forum gives you time to think about your response, here you cant wait 10 minutes because the conversation moves on
19:21 Issa i have started to move a mech but it's really to speed i don't know how to slown animation
19:21 VanessaE mauvebic: whether he or anyone mocks you on -dev or forums, on -dev it won't be deleted for starters, the channel is logged.
19:21 mauvebic i know theyre logged, hmmm even finds that weird that some people would refer to it when he's being unreasonable
19:21 VanessaE if you're that concerned about being censored, express your reaction in a venue where it won't be deleted and won't get you kicked out/bannede.
19:21 VanessaE banned*
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19:22 mauvebic feel free, im just about finished installing win7, and if the demo to blockscape works it only costs 13$ in cdn (10 eur)
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19:22 VanessaE but consider this:  your argument has to do with the colored light, mostly.  The issue is you haven't produced any code that someone else can use, and what you've done so far is not scalable to arbitrary light colors and placements.
19:23 mauvebic if theres' no hope of getting advanced features here, its a small price to pay
19:23 VanessaE now,
19:23 mauvebic producing code? if only the idea ever got that far before being shot down
19:23 mauvebic look over the logs, every single time it was discussed
19:23 VanessaE had you suggested a way to make it possible to put a red torch here, a blue one over there, and a green one up this way, and have all of them glow in the right colors, THEN you could claim to have done somethign that's being suppressed.
19:23 mauvebic look at the logs
19:24 VanessaE the idea isn't being shot down - your implementation of it is.
19:24 mauvebic hmmm was pretty clear in every instance
19:24 VanessaE you need to re-read the logs then, because the conversation has continued off and on since your argument.
19:24 VanessaE the idea of colored light is not dead.
19:25 ShadowNinja The issue was that it would significantly increase the space required for storing and sending nodes
19:25 mauvebic there was no implementation of it, I got as far as tweaking the light sources to see if it would work - and already told it would never get pulled, without *any* work being done on implementation
19:25 VanessaE I think the bottom line from others could be summarized as "put up or shut up" (and no, I don't necessarily think like that).
19:25 ShadowNinja Dynamic lighting would allow this properly
19:25 mauvebic its kinda contradictory to be told on the one hand to fork, and on the other that a fork is ridiculous for such a feature
19:26 ShadowNinja It would be great if you wrote dynamic lights, those wouldn't have that issue
19:26 mauvebic and ultimately, to work on the hud instead and fix other people's gaffes
19:26 VanessaE ShadowNinja: my theory is that there's no reason to store the light on a node that isn't being lit by a special source.  e.g. if it's just sunlight, use the existing lighting system.  If it's some other light source, then store the extra data.  voila, no significant excess map data
19:27 khonkhortisan You could use the same theory for the map. If it's just generated, don't store that data. If it's from some other source, then store the extra data.
19:28 VanessaE all you need is one single spare bit anywhere in the existing node data - a bit that can be safely ignored by everything else whether set or not.  If it isn't set, this node uses the old lighting data.  if it IS set, this node uses the new colored light, and two or three extra bytes should be expected for that node.
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19:29 VanessaE Calinou: dare I ask how broken it is?
19:29 Calinou more broken than 13.10, yeah
19:29 VanessaE khonkhortisan: perhaps, but regenerating the map is much slower than just loading what was generated.
19:29 VanessaE Calinou: I think I'll wait ;)
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19:30 Kacey 75% cpu by minetest!
19:31 mauvebic what version?
19:31 mauvebic sounds like one of the 0.4x's
19:31 mauvebic *one of the old
19:31 Kacey 80% now!
19:31 ShadowNinja Kacey: kill it and restart it, technic does that I know
19:32 Exio i don't see what is wrong with a *game* using 75% of the cpu
19:32 [0gb_us] I've had 0.4.6 go to 108% CPU. I don't know how it could be over 100% though.
19:32 Kacey it may have been ShadowNinja's prints from the pong game
19:32 Exio [0gb_us]: threads
19:32 Kacey dropped from 98% usage to 13% when i shut down minetest
19:33 mauvebic well if you have conky you should know easily
19:33 ShadowNinja Kacey: no way, that runs once a second and doesn't print that much data
19:33 Kacey afk
19:38 mauvebic dunno how sane it is to install 10 drivers in a row, finding out now lol
19:39 mauvebic god damnit win7 default wallpaper is fugly lol
19:39 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Fix findSpawnPos() daddd37706 2013-04-21T12:39:34-07:00 http://git.io/Ft39DA
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19:43 jojoa1997|Tablet kaeza why doesnt your HUD with survival modpack work
19:44 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, "work" is a too vague explanation
19:44 jojoa1997|Tablet there is no image for hud
19:45 jojoa1997|Tablet the words are there but not the image
19:45 kaeza hmm
19:45 kaeza ah yes!
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19:45 kaeza I get it now... it seems I forgot to git add the textures
19:46 * sfan5 hates the Deutsche Telekom
19:46 kaeza hey jordan
19:47 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5rEaHPt6mw
19:47 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: mgv7: Implement getGroundLevelAtPoint(), fix layer of topnodes at chunk Y boundaries, remove growGrass() 37e6d1356b 2013-04-21T12:47:13-07:00 http://git.io/P4hLKA
19:49 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/survival_modpack-textures.zip
19:49 Calinou <[0gb_us]> I've had 0.4.6 go to 108% CPU. I don't know how it could be over 100% though. => by using more than one thread
19:49 Calinou I can go up to 800% on my desktop
19:50 Calinou both CPUs and GPUs are made to work at 100%
19:50 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, unzip that and put the 'textures' dir inside survival_modpack/survival_lib
19:50 Calinou it just uses more power, so you want to limit FPS to (your screen refresh rate) + 5 (to prevent tearing)
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19:50 Calinou 65 FPS being the default limit (few people have 120hz screens, so this is ok)
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19:51 jojoa1997|Tablet kaeza they cover the hearts
19:52 [0gb_us] No GPUs for me That was the server without the client that went to 108%.
19:52 Calinou it's fine then
19:52 Calinou go host a TF2 server and see :P
19:53 [0gb_us] What is TF2?
19:53 kaeza -.-
19:53 Calinou team fortess 2, it is known for using a lot of bandwidth and CPU, even on server
19:53 jordan4ibanez hi kaeza
19:53 Calinou it runs at 100FPS and does a lot of stuff :P
19:54 Calinou 100FPS is totally overkill for a FPS, xonotic runs at 30FPS and it's fine that way
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19:54 Exio Calinou: redeclipse+onslaught+vampire+wet+ffa
19:54 kaeza jojoa1997|Tablet, ...didn't I tell you I'm rewriting the whole thing?
19:54 Exio if you get more than 15 FPS in the middle of that map, you have a very powerful gpu
19:54 jojoa1997|Tablet dont ever have minecraft and minetest playing at the same time
19:54 Exio >:D
19:55 * away shoots plasma at Exio
19:55 VanessaE why? :)
19:55 jojoa1997|Tablet lag
19:55 * Exio puts away on fire
19:55 away ffff
19:55 VanessaE you mean lpw fps
19:55 VanessaE not lag
19:55 kaeza lpw?
19:55 kaeza lpl
19:55 VanessaE low*
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19:56 kaeza :P
19:56 BlockMen jojoa1997, "In minitest there are 2 tools that dont do this."..what tools?
19:56 kaeza hey bas
19:57 Calinou Exio, with max settings I'd get 80 FPS or so
19:57 jojoa1997|Tablet fishing pole and flint and steel
19:57 Calinou by max settings I mean all options checked, /reflectsize 10, /fsaa 16, /aniso 16
19:58 Exio reflectsize/aniso?
19:58 BlockMen where are they defined?
19:58 jojoa1997|Tablet well currently default
19:58 Calinou aniso is anisotropic filtering, reflectsize water reflection size (1024^2 instead of 256^2)
19:59 jojoa1997|Tablet download version minitest
20:00 Exio Calinou: do you use the "new" post-fx?
20:00 jojoa1997|Tablet wait nvm
20:00 Calinou no post fx
20:00 jojoa1997|Tablet i split the mod and left out a oart i needed
20:00 Exio my main bottleneck atm is the ram, - i use the 4gb with only MC+MT
20:00 Exio then the swap is slow as hell
20:00 Calinou 4GB is fine on linux :P
20:00 jordan4ibanez I can't decide if I should make the anvil add an item above it which you cannot pick up with the item magnet, and when you punch the anvil with a hammer with a steelblock in your inventory it heals a bit of the tools health, or that when you hit the anvil with a hammer and a steelblock in your inventory, it tries to find a powertool in your inventory and heal it
20:01 Calinou but 8GB is still better
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20:01 Exio I've bought a 8gb module for the monday :P
20:01 VanessaE Calinou: 16GB ftw :)
20:01 Exio i'll have one 12 gb :(
20:02 Exio (as it were low :P)
20:02 Calinou 2×4 > 1×8
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20:02 * Calinou yells at materiel.net again
20:02 Exio i wasn't able to get any 4gb module for "soon" and i don't have money for two 8 gb modules
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20:03 Exio lua networking? what?
20:03 BlockMen jojoa1997, could you try if it works with on_use instead of on_place?
20:04 BlockMen (at the pole and flintnsteel)
20:04 khonkhortisan Lua doesn't have networking or filesystem stuff unless you add it yourself
20:04 Exio john_minetest: it uses its own "library"
20:04 Exio ask kaeza about that
20:04 Exio he is using weird stuff on that
20:07 jojoa1997|Tablet Blockmen i cant
20:07 jojoa1997|Tablet what about looking for tools
20:08 BlockMen what do you mean?
20:09 jojoa1997|Tablet have it see if the item is
20:09 jojoa1997|Tablet minetest.register_tool
20:09 jojoa1997|Tablet or make it search for a group also and i could solve the prob that way
20:10 BlockMen that would cause to much performance...currently it reacts on on_place() on_punch() and on_place()
20:11 BlockMen but the flintnsteel uses on_place() so i have no idea why it shouldnt work
20:14 BlockMen i guess both tools need to long to set set_waer() so intweak cant recongize that it is broken
20:16 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_775625028.jpg
20:17 kaeza >.<
20:18 NakedFury thats cool kaeza
20:18 NakedFury you working on that?
20:19 kaeza yep
20:19 kaeza survival_modpack
20:19 NakedFury source code or some hackish lua stuff?
20:19 BlockMen kaeza, it is currently just impossible to position the hud exactly. we need another way to set the position than now
20:20 kaeza BlockMen, I like to workaround stuff, in addition to bitching about what is needed
20:21 kaeza also, I'm not ">.<"'ing for the bar positions, but about how it looks like when using default apple textures
20:21 kaeza BlockMen, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_696539664.jpg
20:22 khonkhortisan [0gb_us], still interested in the c++ minetestmapper? You need gd-devel.
20:23 BlockMen kaeza, maybe i was missing something. but is there a way to get the screen size in lua (atm)?
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20:23 Exio no, why?
20:23 Exio BlockMen: why would you need that?
20:24 kaeza BlockMen, <kaeza> also, I'm not ">.<"'ing for the [b]bar positions[/b], but about how it looks like when using default apple textures
20:25 BlockMen because when resizing the window the bar moves umm...strange?
20:25 BlockMen and ya, i got that. thx
20:29 kaeza sorry, I'm a bit edgy about everyone complaining about every mod I make when the same people bitched before when there was no features in my mods
20:29 kaeza no such features*
20:29 kaeza (read everyone as jojoa, Likwid, and in general the average newbie
20:29 kaeza )
20:30 kaeza (to be clear, I'm not calling you a n008 :) )
20:30 jordan4ibanez damn
20:30 jordan4ibanez on_place for tools overrides on_rightclick for nodes
20:30 jordan4ibanez that ruins the anvil idea for the item above it
20:30 kaeza jordan4ibanez, IKR
20:32 jordan4ibanez Good thing I thought of a backup idea lol
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20:33 jordan4ibanez I guess the hammer could be like a really weak pickaxe so it has multifunctionality
20:33 Calinou mining with a hammer, seems legit
20:33 Calinou why not :P
20:34 VanessaE a jackhammer maybe ;)
20:34 kaeza real miners use nukes in their mines :P
20:34 jordan4ibanez you can break stones with a sledgehammer, why not?
20:34 Calinou kaeza, no, they use their heads
20:34 Calinou like windows users trying to use linux :P
20:35 Kacey Calinou, that describes me
20:35 kaeza lol
20:35 Kacey but i am pretty good on linux
20:36 Calinou challenge: upgrade to an ubuntu release the day it is released
20:36 VanessaE Calinou: why are you maintaining the moreblocks screwdriver?
20:36 VanessaE (I don't remember)
20:36 Calinou VanessaE, texture?
20:36 VanessaE Calinou: ok, but with a different itemname also?
20:36 Calinou it's not very important anyway, I could remove it
20:37 VanessaE besides, the default one has a 16px texture now
20:37 Calinou ah! cool
20:37 VanessaE wait, no it doesn't
20:37 Calinou ah
20:37 Uberi hey Kacey is the server up?
20:37 VanessaE but there's a request for it waiting, I gave a new one to RealBadAngel already
20:37 Exio Calinou: having a working ubuntu is always a chall
20:37 BlockMen kaeza, its fine ;) sorry if it sounded like i was complaining
20:37 Calinou Exio, it works better than you may think, and it's the same for any distro
20:37 Kacey Uberi, it was eating cpu so i have it down for a bit
20:38 Uberi ah OK
20:38 Kacey i will put it up in a few minutes
20:38 Kacey you missed the pOng sign over itthough
20:38 Calinou a minetest server at idle uses 8-12% CPU for me, not more
20:38 Kacey it though*
20:38 Kacey 75% forme
20:39 Kacey SPACE KEY WORK!!!!!
20:39 ShadowNinja Uberi: I coded it mostly, I just have to add collision and debug it, and I know how to do that
20:39 Uberi cool
20:39 Kacey up now
20:39 VanessaE Calinou: regarding placing upside-down stuff automatically,
20:39 Uberi IP?
20:39 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/blob/master/lighting.lua#L42
20:39 VanessaE this bit of code will help in that regard.
20:39 VanessaE (except you'll use facedir to position the object)
20:40 RealBadAngel VanessaE, it has 32x texture that is made to look like 16x, it has to be done so to OR it with 32x mode number textures
20:40 VanessaE RealBadAngel: I sent you a 32px file that looks like 16px for that very purpose.
20:40 Kacey 67.190.14.129
20:40 RealBadAngel yeah, and thats it
20:40 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/screwdriver.png
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20:42 kaeza BlockMen, np, sorry too for over-reacting
20:42 kaeza :P
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20:42 NakedFury kaeza will you do a push or pull,whatever its called, for adding the ui code for minetest?
20:44 kaeza NakedFury, wut
20:44 Kacey ShadowNinja, areyou going to join?
20:44 kaeza there's already a Lua-definable HUD
20:44 khonkhortisan I don't think this was ported right http://postimg.org/image/n9696b10b/
20:44 Uberi does it work yet ShadowNinja?
20:44 NakedFury did not know there was one
20:44 VanessaE all right, that does it.
20:44 * VanessaE grabs a heater from the closet
20:45 VanessaE too fucking cold in here.
20:45 mauvebic lol that cold?
20:45 mauvebic i got all my windows open
20:45 VanessaE yeah, about 18°C.
20:45 mauvebic and my wife, being the perfect ferengi female, is almost fully node at home
20:45 mauvebic *nude
20:45 mauvebic not node lol
20:45 VanessaE you play too much MT
20:46 kaeza lol
20:46 mauvebic wife's playing blockscape right now :p
20:46 mauvebic the grass is animated and the water has reflection
20:46 mauvebic music's a bit annoying but sunsets are real nice
20:47 Kacey wish we had support for other programming languages as well as lua
20:47 Exio i don't wish that
20:47 mauvebic what would that add?
20:47 khonkhortisan That would mean changing the api for every language
20:47 mauvebic or rather, what is it you can't do in lua?
20:47 khonkhortisan c++ directly stores the luastate and variables to read them
20:48 Kacey so you could do complex things in other languages and have lua calls to them and etf
20:48 Kacey etc*
20:48 khonkhortisan os.execute?
20:48 Exio Kacey: "complex things"
20:49 Exio what the heck are you saying? :)
20:49 mauvebic yeah you could always use os.execute to perform operations in any language
20:49 khonkhortisan complex things like counting from zero, copying arrays, getting all the files in a directory
20:49 Kacey like for multiblock tanks
20:49 Exio multiblock tanks? what is that?
20:49 mauvebic multiblock tanks?
20:49 mauvebic lol
20:49 * khonkhortisan joins in: multiblock tanks?
20:49 Exio stop copying me mauvebic, i'll sue you
20:49 Exio khonkhortisan: </3
20:49 mauvebic sue me :p
20:49 mauvebic youll spend more in fees then youll get in settlements :p
20:49 Kacey finding the amount of liquid within, seeing if there is a pipe nearby and so on and so forth
20:50 khonkhortisan Both parties have agreed to drop their claims and have their case settled on tv court
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20:50 Exio ah
20:50 mauvebic i could do that easily lol dont need another language for that
20:50 kaeza slowpoke: multiblock tanks?
20:50 Kacey i cant
20:50 Exio Kacey: if you need heavy and complex things, you do them in C++, if not, you can do the stuff in lua
20:50 Exio Kacey: why not?
20:50 Kacey not very "fluent" in lua
20:50 khonkhortisan What are you fluent in?
20:51 Kacey now RUBY is a different story
20:51 mauvebic you think  i knew a damn thing about lua when i came here? lol
20:51 kaeza lol ruby
20:51 khonkhortisan I didn't know about lua or git
20:51 Kacey ruby and html
20:51 mauvebic last time i coded before that was ten years previous in php 3
20:51 Exio XD
20:51 khonkhortisan now I know them both
20:51 mauvebic git practically is its own language lol
20:51 Exio Kacey: HTML and Ruby, the first is not a language and can be parser
20:51 Kacey and i am ok in lua but not like rba
20:52 Exio Kacey: why would you need Ruby?
20:52 BlockMen jojoa1997, i see curently no way to fix that. when using a tool then on_place is used, which is not on_placenode. So maybe i will find a workaround that would cost to much performance or it wont support these tools....
20:52 Exio making MT even slower?
20:52 kaeza Exio, HyperText Markup LANGUAGE :3
20:52 mauvebic so youre not a pro, no big deal, can still learn ;p
20:52 BlockMen *would not
20:52 Exio kaeza: i mean, scripting or common or so :P
20:53 Kacey http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5602 nobody seems to like Xytest
20:53 Kacey 85% usage by minetest
20:53 Uberi as in HTL is not turing coplete and isn't really a prograing language
20:54 Kacey dropped to 50
20:54 Exio he, turing complete
20:54 Exio i'd not think someone would say that here :P
20:54 * Exio highfives Uberi o/
20:54 Uberi o/
20:55 kaeza >:<
20:55 mauvebic meh, html was more than enough for lots and lots of people to express themselves 20 years ago
20:55 mauvebic all these ready-made sites have kinda sucked the fun out of that
20:56 VanessaE HTL?  coplete? prograing?  ;-)
20:56 * kaeza highfives mauvebic o/
20:56 * VanessaE hands Uberi an M key.
20:56 mauvebic \o
20:56 Kacey MC can be modded with tons of stuff
20:56 Kacey languages*
20:56 mauvebic thats not news :P
20:56 mauvebic oh
20:57 Uberi the replaceent keyboard costs $42.88 :(
20:57 mauvebic yeah and look what a random collection of crap that's become
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20:57 mauvebic 42$?
20:57 mauvebic in ontario?
20:57 VanessaE Uberi: you can get a decent keyboard at wal-mart for like %$15
20:57 VanessaE $15
20:57 mauvebic jesus christ, i can get an english keyboard in quebec for 15$, and theyre pretty friggin rare/illegal
20:57 Uberi not one for this particular laptop
20:57 kaeza Kacey, you can make a library to wrap Python calls into Lua calls if you feel like it :P
20:57 VanessaE oh, laptop
20:57 VanessaE Uberi: got an external monitor?  :)
20:57 Exio [17:56:36] <Kacey> MC can be modded with tons of stuff
20:57 mauvebic get a usb keyboard?
20:57 Exio tell me 2 languages
20:58 VanessaE use the lappy as a ...yeah exactly
20:58 Exio in the way MC can be coded
20:58 VanessaE who cares about MC?
20:58 Kacey java
20:58 Exio VanessaE: Kacey
20:58 Kacey HTML
20:58 mauvebic when the P4 finally dies the netbook is replacing it lol
20:58 VanessaE fuck MC.
20:58 mauvebic with all the other bits staying where they are
20:58 Exio Kacey: HTML is not a programming language, it is a markup language
20:58 BlockMen gd n8t everyone
20:58 Kacey not to mention scala
20:58 kaeza nite
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20:58 mauvebic fuck MC, blockscape is cheaper and nicer out of the box compared to MC
20:58 Kacey (err something like that)
20:58 mauvebic no monthlies
20:58 kaeza Kacey, HTML is NOT a PROGRAMMING language
20:59 kaeza it's MARKUP language
20:59 Exio scala is java is in someway a super-super-set of java
20:59 NakedFury blockscape is a nice game
20:59 mauvebic arguing over semantics :P HTML is a good place to start
20:59 Exio lisp
20:59 Exio racket/scheme
20:59 Kacey they can do C i think
20:59 Exio Kacey: they can't, C needs to get compiled, all of MC data is crossplataform
20:59 mauvebic NakedFury wife's learning the ropes now :p
21:00 Exio er, how is that speled
21:00 NakedFury I bought it months ago and I keep checking progress on it
21:00 Exio damn, i can't recal the sematincs
21:00 mauvebic and blockscape = C#, MC = Java (sideshow bob ugh)
21:00 * Exio reboots his brain
21:00 kaeza Kacey, the thing about MC is that, being written in Java, you can virtually hack anything thru introspection
21:01 mauvebic id rather install .net than JRE lol
21:01 NakedFury id rather install both and enjoy both games
21:01 NakedFury :D
21:01 Exio i don't like .net or jre
21:01 Exio :D
21:02 mauvebic lesser of two evils :p
21:02 NakedFury you dont have to like them to like the games made with them
21:02 mauvebic or lesser evil
21:02 mauvebic seriously lol
21:02 mauvebic though im still not a fan of MC
21:02 VanessaE I'd rather gouge my eyes out than install java, but the former is painful, unproductive, and doesn't let me run java code. :)
21:03 Exio i like MT because C++ (what is near to C < even if it is not C, better than other languages) - and Lua
21:03 mauvebic in any case, Java was sposed to replace C when it came out, we all know how that went lol
21:03 Exio you can't replace C
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21:03 harrison Oberon is better
21:03 mauvebic i wish blockscape had lua, though it shouldn't be tough to dissect a blockscape mod and get started
21:03 kaeza Exio, +1000000
21:03 Exio C is the portable-ASM
21:03 kaeza not even C++ can replace C
21:04 mauvebic Cities XL uses lots of lua though, it was easy enough to mod that game
21:04 kaeza inb4, <lamefun> blahblah shiny new world blah blah javascript blah blah
21:04 Exio xD
21:04 Exio mauvebic: a game what isn't opensource but i like - CS2D
21:05 mauvebic javascript lol a webpage formatting lang
21:05 Exio that is CSS
21:05 * kaeza highfives Exio o/
21:05 Exio javascript as language is very powerful
21:05 mauvebic well javascript for the longest time was only used for dinky animations
21:05 Exio but, nah, i'd still prefer lua on mt
21:05 mauvebic as for games, i dont care if theyre oss or not, so long as its got the goods
21:05 harrison because of the roast pig and breadfruit?
21:05 NakedFury yeah^
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21:06 harrison wait, that is 'luau"
21:06 mauvebic like honestly, 13$ aint much for blockscape
21:06 mauvebic 9 eur for euro players is even less lol
21:07 VanessaE wtf?  google.com is down!?
21:07 NakedFury mauvebic you might like Blockade Runner
21:07 VanessaE hm, nevermind
21:07 kaeza !ping google.com
21:07 Exio .ar works for me
21:07 VanessaE must be my browser.
21:07 mauvebic blockade runner?
21:07 Exio it looks weird, anyway
21:07 STHGOM good riddance!
21:07 NakedFury its a space game with voxels
21:08 Exio http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript#Simple_examples
21:08 mauvebic thats ten bucks too
21:08 Exio Anonymous function (or lambda) syntax and closure example:
21:08 kaeza Ternadim FTW!!
21:08 Exio lambdas and closures
21:08 jordan4ibanez it would be useful if we could set the wield item and different wield item animations through lua
21:09 mauvebic i recently saw a game where you had to build your ship and its systems, dont remember what it was
21:09 Uberi lua has labdas and closures too of course
21:10 NakedFury there is also Starmade mauvebic.
21:10 Exio Uberi: they are lovely things, aren't they?
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21:11 Uberi of course :)
21:12 mauvebic looking at starmade video now
21:13 jojoa1997|Tablet what is the diff between add_wear(1/65) and add_waer(65/1)
21:13 mauvebic concept is nice but im not crazy about the shitty graphics
21:14 Exio jojoa1997|Tablet: is that true?
21:14 Exio that question *
21:14 jojoa1997|Tablet no
21:14 NakedFury thats the downside
21:14 jojoa1997|Tablet diference as in what they mean different
21:14 mauvebic yeah thats why im liking blockscape right now, the ambience of it
21:14 jojoa1997|Tablet i want to make an item only have 65 uses
21:15 jojoa1997|Tablet but i need to use itemstack:add_wear(#)
21:15 Exio jojoa1997|Tablet: .01538 != 65
21:15 Exio didn't you have good grades at school
21:15 jojoa1997|Tablet so how would i make the wear equal 65 uses
21:15 Exio 1/65, a fraction, and 65/1, other
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21:16 NakedFury mauvebic another game using voxel terrain but not square ish is Planet Epxlorer
21:18 NakedFury it will come for Linux, Macs, and windows
21:19 mauvebic i have win7 and linux on the HP
21:20 mauvebic well, i still have grub to repair, so right now, just win7 accessible on hp lol
21:20 Koren prepare the fps drop its made with unity
21:20 PilzAdam epic mapgen v7 mountain: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=85693#p85693
21:20 PilzAdam ^ hmmmm
21:21 Koren awesome
21:21 Uberi ShadowNinja: use //luatransform t=minetest.env:get_meta(pos);t:set_string("code",t:get_string("code"):gsub("g%[1%]","g[3]"));t:set_string("formspec",t:get_string("formspec"):gsub("g\\%[1\\%]","g\\[3\\]")) to program the luacontrollers
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21:22 kaeza aww he changed his nick :(
21:22 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/5d6sNvO.jpg
21:22 RealBadAngel another thing done
21:23 kaeza RealBadAngel, coolness
21:23 mauvebic warspace looks cool
21:23 RealBadAngel now just fine tune edges, and figure out reson of one bug
21:23 RealBadAngel and it will be finished
21:24 NakedFury is that a game mauvebic?
21:24 kaeza wait... he's a freenode staff member!
21:24 * kaeza hides
21:24 Kacey hey rba can you make a connected textures api?
21:24 Exio we need to run
21:25 RealBadAngel Kacey, this stuff are not connected textures at all
21:25 mauvebic its a ship building game yeah, graphics look good
21:25 NakedFury Blockade Runner plans to make you need major systems too.
21:25 RealBadAngel it works on similar rules as fences, but specific for glass
21:25 mauvebic if you can understand heavy russian accents lol http://youtu.be/PF84uRhEhP0
21:25 STHGOM bye john_minetest
21:26 STHGOM :D
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21:27 Uberi server is lagging like crazy :P
21:27 STHGOM POOF!!!
21:28 Uberi ShadowNinja: use //luatransform x=3;t=minetest.env:get_meta(pos);t:set_string("code",t:get_string("code"):gsub("%]%[%d+%]","]["..x.."]"));t:set_string("formspec",t:get_string("formspec"):gsub("%]\\%[%d+\\%]","]\\["..x.."\\]")) to set the y axis indices
21:31 mauvebic poop warspace isn't out yet, otherwise i think id buy it
21:32 PilzAdam ragequit: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=85694#p85694
21:32 mauvebic would you rather pissed off people sticked around? lol
21:33 mauvebic see how that's working out with landmine lol
21:34 mauvebic im mostly done too, i might play from time to time, but modding days are over lol
21:35 StrayBytes I'm also a bit annoyed. I think I'm goingto call it quits as well after my proposal proposal and the netork protocol overhaul.
21:35 mauvebic even god is said to open windows when he closes doors lol
21:36 StrayBytes Can we please not bring religion up in this?
21:36 mauvebic im not religious
21:36 Uberi hey Kacey did the IP change again?
21:36 mauvebic doesn't mean i cant parabolize (sp)
21:36 StrayBytes afk
21:36 Kacey no i shut down the server
21:36 Uberi ah
21:36 Uberi back to singleplayer worlds then
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21:38 PilzAdam Uberi, FYI, I included your workaround in WE++
21:38 Uberi cool
21:38 PilzAdam Im not really sure what to do next
21:38 Exio PilzAdam: hehe, the forum post number doesn't mean a lot of stuff anyway :P
21:39 Uberi remember that WE++ is required to be AGPLv3
21:39 mauvebic yeah seriously, a lot of long time people have low postcounts
21:39 PilzAdam there are some things to do: save user settings (position, selected node, running command) when server shuts down, inclure more commands from WE, anything Im not aware of?
21:40 PilzAdam Exio, I just thought 128 is a nice number
21:40 Exio ah
21:40 Exio i'd prefer 256
21:40 Uberi PilzAdam: maybe rewrite into an API-like form so it can replace the classic WE backend
21:40 Exio :D
21:40 PilzAdam now he/she has to stay here until 256
21:40 PilzAdam Uberi, oh, yea, that too
21:40 Uberi that way it can also use worldedit Infinity, Items, and GUI
21:41 NakedFury me
21:41 PilzAdam Uberi, do you insist on the little code snippet to be marked as AGPL?
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21:43 Uberi well I can make an exception for you but it's kind of pointless to use GPL without the A variant for MT mods
21:43 Uberi and it does need to be GPL to avoid tons of proprietary forks that fragment the interface
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21:45 mauvebic well PilzAdam can keep his stuff in a seperate file with a diff license
21:45 mauvebic and use dofiles to enable/disable whichever module the user wants to go with
21:45 mauvebic its all about informed decisions
21:45 mauvebic as long as you dont hide the fact
21:46 Uberi definitely
21:46 mauvebic like some users might prefer WE straightup without threading
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21:46 mauvebic so offer both with a switch
21:47 Exio threading? what is that?
21:47 mauvebic what pilzadam did with WE++
21:47 Exio he didn't do that
21:47 mauvebic or rather, almost-threading?
21:47 mauvebic whatever
21:48 Uberi well deferred operations in any case
21:48 mauvebic im not anal about semantics
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21:48 Exio damn
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21:48 Exio VanessaE:
21:48 Uberi sigh
21:48 Kray the autist is back
21:48 mauvebic lol
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21:48 lsner rfer
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21:48 lsner alexbobp AndrewPH AshleyWaffle bas080 berome Brndn celeron55 Cerise ChauffeR codile Corey cosarara97 Crisco dimeshake drizz dzho ecube EduardeCalibal edwtjo Exio Final fortytwo FreeFull Fresh_me_ Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan ny
21:48 lsner alexbobp AndrewPH AshleyWaffle bas080 berome Brndn celeron55 Cerise ChauffeR codile Corey cosarara97 Crisco dimeshake drizz dzho ecube EduardeCalibal edwtjo Exio Final fortytwo FreeFull Fresh_me_ Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan ny
21:48 Uberi VanessaE: !
21:48 lsner dadasd
21:48 lsner dads
21:48 lsner alexbobp AndrewPH AshleyWaffle bas080 berome Brndn celeron55 Cerise ChauffeR codile Corey cosarara97 Crisco dimeshake drizz dzho ecube EduardeCalibal edwtjo Exio Final fortytwo FreeFull Fresh_me_ Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan ny
21:48 lsner alexbobp AndrewPH AshleyWaffle bas080 berome Brndn celeron55 Cerise ChauffeR codile Corey cosarara97 Crisco dimeshake drizz dzho ecube EduardeCalibal edwtjo Exio Final fortytwo FreeFull Fresh_me_ Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan ny
21:48 Uberi SAVE US
21:48 lsner valexbobp AndrewPH AshleyWaffle bas080 berome Brndn celeron55 Cerise ChauffeR codile Corey cosarara97 Crisco dimeshake drizz dzho ecube EduardeCalibal edwtjo Exio Final fortytwo FreeFull Fresh_me_ Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan n
21:49 lsner alexbobp AndrewPH AshleyWaffle bas080 berome Brndn celeron55 Cerise ChauffeR codile Corey cosarara97 Crisco dimeshake drizz dzho ecube EduardeCalibal edwtjo Exio Final fortytwo FreeFull Fresh_me_ Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan ny
21:49 lsner alexbobp AndrewPH AshleyWaffle bas080 berome Brndn celeron55 Cerise ChauffeR codile Corey cosarara97 Crisco dimeshake drizz dzho ecube EduardeCalibal edwtjo Exio Final fortytwo FreeFull Fresh_me_ Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan ny
21:49 EduardeCalibal This is very repetitive this days...  -.-
21:49 lsner alexbobp AndrewPH AshleyWaffle bas080 berome Brndn celeron55 Cerise ChauffeR codile Corey cosarara97 Crisco dimeshake drizz dzho ecube EduardeCalibal edwtjo Exio Final fortytwo FreeFull Fresh_me_ Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan ny
21:49 lsner alexbobp AndrewPH AshleyWaffle bas080 berome Brndn celeron55 Cerise ChauffeR codile Corey cosarara97 Crisco dimeshake drizz dzho ecube EduardeCalibal edwtjo Exio Final fortytwo FreeFull Fresh_me_ Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan ny
21:49 lsner alexbobp AndrewPH AshleyWaffle bas080 berome Brndn celeron55 Cerise ChauffeR codile Corey cosarara97 Crisco dimeshake drizz dzho ecube EduardeCalibal edwtjo Exio Final fortytwo FreeFull Fresh_me_ Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan ny
21:49 lsner alexbobp AndrewPH AshleyWaffle bas080 berome Brndn celeron55 Cerise ChauffeR codile Corey cosarara97 Crisco dimeshake drizz dzho ecube EduardeCalibal edwtjo Exio Final fortytwo FreeFull Fresh_me_ Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan ny
21:49 lsner alexbobp AndrewPH AshleyWaffle bas080 berome Brndn celeron55 Cerise ChauffeR codile Corey cosarara97 Crisco dimeshake drizz dzho ecube EduardeCalibal edwtjo Exio Final fortytwo FreeFull Fresh_me_ Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan ny
21:49 lsner alexbobp AndrewPH AshleyWaffle bas080 berome Brndn celeron55 Cerise ChauffeR codile Corey cosarara97 Crisco dimeshake drizz dzho ecube EduardeCalibal edwtjo Exio Final fortytwo FreeFull Fresh_me_ Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan ny
21:49 lsner alexbobp AndrewPH AshleyWaffle bas080 berome Brndn celeron55 Cerise ChauffeR codile Corey cosarara97 Crisco dimeshake drizz dzho ecube EduardeCalibal edwtjo Exio Final fortytwo FreeFull Fresh_me_ Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan ny
21:49 lsner alexbobp AndrewPH AshleyWaffle bas080 berome Brndn celeron55 Cerise ChauffeR codile Corey cosarara97 Crisco dimeshake drizz dzho ecube EduardeCalibal edwtjo Exio Final fortytwo FreeFull Fresh_me_ Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan ny
21:49 kaeza Corey, ^
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21:49 Uberi SAVE US
21:49 PilzAdam lsner, Y NO PING ME?
21:49 Exio damn
21:49 Koren is there something similar to ignore list ?
21:49 AndrewPH Why do minecraft and minecraft-like projects attract such asspies?
21:49 jordan4ibanez Wow I didn't even know my client had auto ignore
21:49 EduardeCalibal Is a crazy guy...  :-o  AFK
21:49 jojoa1997|Tablet aw man i wanted to bring out the ignorhammer
21:49 Kacey BANHAMMER!!!!!!
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21:50 mauvebic they havent managed to get rid of him in a year, what makes you think the banhammer is effective?
21:50 harrison ?
21:50 harrison ?     +   _
21:50 harrison ?  ?  ,'|,,'/
21:50 harrison '  '  /
21:50 harrison ?  ,-o o
21:50 harrison _'    ,-
21:50 harrison |   /'
21:50 mauvebic he'll just come back with another proxy
21:50 harrison '--
21:50 harrison i do not undrestrand this aspies of which you refer to
21:50 mauvebic oups ruined your ascii art
21:51 Koren what was that ?
21:51 kaeza I thought VanessaE banned webchat
21:51 mauvebic guess someone flushed the list again
21:51 mauvebic for whomever plays from a public library computer
21:51 Uberi I feel left out :(
21:51 Uberi the spammer just outright ignored me
21:51 harrison ?
21:51 harrison ?     +   _
21:51 harrison ?  ?  ,'|,,'/
21:51 harrison '  '  /
21:51 harrison ?  ,-o o
21:51 harrison _'    ,-
21:52 harrison |   /'
21:52 harrison '--
21:52 harrison i do not undrestrand this aspies of which you refer to
21:52 Kacey a cat?
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21:52 ShadowNinja If someone ops my bot it can auto-kick/ban/kickban/modeset etc If that happens...
21:52 kaeza ...
21:52 mauvebic i dont think sfan would give up minetestbot lol
21:52 ShadowNinja Although harrison wouldn't be here...
21:53 Uberi haven't you learned anything from Terminator ShadowNinja?
21:53 Uberi you do NOT put bots in charge of the kill switch
21:53 ShadowNinja I havn't watched that
21:53 Kacey O.o
21:53 harrison if anyone comes here looking for me, i am NOT here k?
21:53 ShadowNinja And I have it an op on two channels, no trouble yet
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21:53 Kacey we have a whole trilogy of why that is a bad idea
21:54 Uberi well long story short your bot will become sentient and try to launch missiles at you
21:54 * Uberi glances at MinetestBot
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21:54 Exio 69.31.103.59 - ISP: nLayer Communications; Organisation: GIGLINX; Location: Torrance, US (Lat: 33.840301513672 Long: -118.35389709473)
21:54 mrtux What's up with all these stupid spammers?
21:54 Exio the same spammer, RealBadAngel
21:54 Exio er, ratheral
21:54 Exio sorry RealBadAngel :P
21:54 ratheral im not
21:54 ratheral wait what?
21:54 ShadowNinja Hmmm, ShadowBot: unload missles
21:54 mrtux i feel like running nmap on that ip
21:54 ratheral dont do that
21:55 Uberi I bet it's a proxy though
21:55 ratheral its my real one!
21:55 mauvebic proxy -> webchat, good luck
21:55 Exio of course!
21:55 mrtux well, on the spammers
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21:55 kaeza /ignore *!*@gateway/web/freenode/* ALL
21:55 ratheral has darkrose been around?
21:55 mrtux kaeza: good idea!
21:56 mrtux webchat sucks
21:56 ratheral yea
21:56 Uberi say what did happen to kahrl?
21:56 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/V685xcH.gif
21:56 PilzAdam Uberi, can I do this: https://github.com/PilzAdam/worldedit_pp/commit/b4d9ff968fd99e042890a441c42e6785b4460869 ?
21:56 Uberi sure thing PilzAdam
21:56 mauvebic Uberi> say what did happen to kahrl? <-- good Q
21:56 Exio :[
21:56 jordan4ibanez He was on vacation
21:57 Exio so, if i spam, and flood, and then come back and don't do that, i'm allowed to be in the channel?
21:57 Uberi I don't really mind, the main motivation is avoiding similar but incmpatible interfaces
21:57 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: oh, sure, commit it THEN ask
21:57 ShadowNinja ;-)
21:58 Exio git reset HEAD~1; git push -f
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21:58 ratheral exio why are you fixated on that?
21:58 PilzAdam Exio, the commit will still be on github
21:58 mauvebic he likes to fixate lol
21:58 PilzAdam you need to call the staff to remove it
21:58 ratheral who doesnt
21:58 mauvebic he/she/it
21:58 mauvebic not sure
21:59 NakedFury reading on warspace
21:59 mauvebic looks cool huh?
21:59 Exio er
21:59 mauvebic if it was out, id be the 2nd game i bought today
21:59 NakedFury yes
21:59 NakedFury the first one?
21:59 mauvebic blockscape
21:59 Exio ratheral: trying to avoid idiots spamming - mainly
21:59 ratheral mrtux did you nmap me yet?
22:00 ratheral exio no cursing please my parents dont appreciate it
22:00 Exio haha
22:00 mauvebic youre parents are watching? lol
22:00 mauvebic PORNO
22:00 mauvebic :p
22:00 mauvebic *your
22:00 hmmmm that is pretty creepy
22:00 mauvebic (parents watching, use proper spelling)
22:01 PilzAdam mauvebic, :D
22:01 hmmmm and he's probably 13
22:01 mauvebic my parents' didn't watch everything i did at 13 lol
22:01 Exio i'd say 11
22:01 mauvebic helicopter parents
22:01 hmmmm im 12 and wat is this
22:01 mauvebic 12 lol yeah right
22:01 ratheral im 9, why are you guys so rude?
22:02 hmmmm http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/im-twelve-years-old-and-what-is-this
22:02 Exio haha
22:02 mauvebic ratheral who's being rude/
22:02 mauvebic *?
22:02 PilzAdam mauvebic, http://youtu.be/1lyjuC2xXa8
22:02 Exio he is using a proxy
22:02 Exio Surf Anonymously: Download Hotspot Shield Free VPN Now (1/2)
22:02 mauvebic lol
22:02 ratheral they aremaking fun that my parents have golden eyes installed and see everything i see and type
22:03 ratheral golden eye***
22:03 mauvebic golden eyes so you cant watch videos of golden showers?
22:03 ratheral what is that? i saw something similar on willy wonka
22:03 mauvebic or other freak sex vids
22:03 Exio $ curl -v http://69.31.103.59:179/ 2>&1 | grep -i Location
22:03 Exio < Location: http://www.hotspotshield.com
22:04 mauvebic *freaky
22:04 ratheral wow exio you are a pro
22:04 ratheral here is a cookie
22:04 * ratheral gives cookie
22:04 mauvebic for a young kid, thats a pretty old joke :p
22:04 Exio i'm really l33t, i know, 1+1=3
22:04 Exio and 3-2=4
22:04 Exio now, can anyone kick him?
22:05 ratheral no
22:05 ratheral your request has been denied
22:05 Exio oh god damnit
22:05 ShadowNinja the answer is yes, but will they?
22:05 mauvebic what happens when we want to discuss the sheep-fucking mod? ratheral would have to leave :(
22:05 ratheral there is such a mod? i want it
22:06 mauvebic its in dev, looking for the right sound effects
22:06 ShadowNinja sokomine: I saw your building, it looks realy nice
22:06 ratheral i recorded my mom with the milkman once
22:06 ratheral i can give you those sounds
22:06 hmmmm hmm
22:06 ratheral pretty wild ones too
22:06 hmmmm guys serious talk
22:06 Exio hmmmm: you should get op
22:06 PilzAdam mauvebic, rats raping sheeps: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=85066#p85066
22:06 hmmmm i want to update minetest_game
22:06 hmmmm how do i do this now
22:06 Exio PilzAdam too
22:07 Exio hmmmm: git pull? :P
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22:07 Uberi why do I know what that link leads to without clicking it
22:07 hmmmm it's not that straightforward though
22:07 mauvebic you wouldn't think the rats are adequately equipped for that lol
22:07 hmmmm i have to get common and something else
22:07 hmmmm i don't know
22:07 Exio git pull;cd ..; git clone http://github.com/minetest/common
22:07 Exio and done
22:07 PilzAdam mauvebic, nono, they use their whole......... I dont want to talk about that anymore
22:07 hmmmm there's more to it than that
22:07 Exio hmmmm: what more?
22:07 ratheral hmmmm
22:08 mauvebic saw that story about that guy in china who stuck an eel up his ... and had it stuck there?
22:08 Exio there are other games - building and survival, but they aren't needed
22:08 ratheral bestgore?
22:08 hmmmm exio, that's the thing, i don't know
22:08 hmmmm with the recent changes and what not
22:08 PilzAdam hmmmm, you need minetest_game and common in games/
22:08 Exio well, lastest commit - works in that way for me
22:09 hmmmm alright
22:09 Exio minetest_game and common, nothing more
22:09 ratheral mauvebic you are sick...why wpould you even say something to me like that on pm
22:09 hmmmm i'm gonna have to add a couple things to common
22:09 hmmmm namely snow, ice, etc.
22:10 hmmmm also i'm gonna have to change the texture for the sands and add sandstone brick and what not because a certain somebody who is supposed to be in charge of all that isn't doing anything
22:10 mauvebic pm? lol there are very few people i pm
22:10 mauvebic cuz the channel keeps a log
22:10 VanessaE christ, I step away for 15 mins and the whole fucking place goes to hell
22:11 * VanessaE returns to scrollback
22:11 Uberi hey VanessaE what's the diff between a filter and a Mese filter?
22:11 VanessaE Uberi: a mese filter moves whole stacks.
22:11 VanessaE the regular filter moves one item at a time
22:11 PilzAdam hmmmm, can you make a list of things you need to be added / changed?
22:11 Uberi oh cooool
22:11 hmmmm sure..
22:11 hmmmm so you'll do it?
22:11 PilzAdam if its reasonable, yes
22:12 PilzAdam http://dev.minetest.net/TODO#TODO_in_minetest_game
22:12 PilzAdam add a new sub header: "New biomes" or something
22:13 Exio - to everybody, can we tell celeron55 to give hmmmm / PilzAdam OP or/and so here? (if he doesn't read this highlight or so)
22:14 PilzAdam thexyz can do that too AFAIK
22:14 Exio [19:06:02] -- ChanServ (ChanServ@services.): 4     thexyz                 +ov (op) [modified 25 weeks, 5 days, 02:54:29 ago]
22:14 Exio he doesn't have +f here - he can't
22:14 PilzAdam ok, then thats in -dev only
22:14 hmmmm http://dev.minetest.net/TODO#To_do_immediately
22:14 Exio and oldcoder, who has more perms than the ops, can't either
22:14 Exio i think the access list should be shared, in both channels
22:14 PilzAdam hmmmm, define "immediately"
22:15 hmmmm just sometime soon
22:15 PilzAdam cause I need to go to sleep in some minutes :-)
22:16 PilzAdam ehm, hmmmm, why do you want to change current desert sand texture?
22:16 [0gb_us] Beds are on the list? Bleh. The things on the to do immediately list look good though.
22:16 Kacey we are practically ripping off minecraft
22:16 PilzAdam [0gb_us], this is a more or less random list
22:16 PilzAdam Kacey, yes
22:16 FreeFull Well, there are teleportation arrows
22:17 FreeFull Those are similar enough
22:17 FreeFull I don't remember which mod
22:17 Exio Kacey: i'd like to see the good ideas of MC in/on MT :)
22:17 hmmmm because we decided it looks like shit
22:17 Uberi good ideas are good ideas
22:17 hmmmm nobody wants deserts to look like mars
22:17 NakedFury kacey we are minecraft. its free open source cousin. his parents are lua and c++.
22:17 Kacey Exio, i agree but not the bad ideas
22:17 PilzAdam hmmmm, but current sand texture isnt good for deserts
22:17 hmmmm why not
22:17 PilzAdam its more  beach sand
22:17 Exio hahaha
22:17 hmmmm beach sand is way lighter
22:18 VanessaE oh, pushing my images through now? :)
22:18 mauvebic look at real pictures of deserts
22:18 kaeza FreeFull, a "hookshot" would fit better than "teleport arrows"
22:18 VanessaE PilzAdam: no, you'r wrong there - desert sand is qutie dark
22:18 VanessaE I based the colors I used on the real stuff
22:18 Mustek just banned ratheral in mc channel for spamming
22:18 hmmmm http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Ramon2004b.jpg
22:18 FreeFull kaeza: A hookshot where gravity counts?
22:18 Mustek ratheral (451f673b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.31.103.59)
22:18 PilzAdam VanessaE, I havent seen your textures yet?
22:18 kaeza Mustek, not necessarily
22:19 kaeza but would be a nice feature
22:19 PilzAdam where are they?
22:19 hmmmm http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/Rub_al_Khali_002.JPG  <------ more orange, but NOWHERE NEAR LIKE the texture we use now
22:19 Exio we need shadows for what i know
22:19 Uberi a grappling hook!
22:19 Exio <3
22:19 hmmmm okay, so desert sand is more of a tan
22:19 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_3716898895.png
22:19 kaeza Uberi, my english is not very good looking :(
22:19 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_3719113997.png
22:19 VanessaE desert sand, regular sand, and sandstone bricks in these shots.
22:19 kaeza thanks, that was the words I meant :P
22:20 kaeza were*
22:20 kaeza those*
22:20 kaeza crap
22:20 hmmmm how can anybody with good taste like the orange sand
22:20 hmmmm i don't get it
22:20 PilzAdam I dont like it either
22:21 kaeza hmmmm, the same reason people likes the eggshell soulds when walking over grass
22:21 hmmmm lol
22:21 PilzAdam the current sand has some "waves" on it
22:21 kaeza they get used to it
22:21 hmmmm yeah I agree
22:21 hmmmm the textures suck
22:21 hmmmm the sounds suck
22:21 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/default_sand.png  ~~  http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/default_sandstone2.png  ~~  http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/default_desert_sand.png
22:21 PilzAdam and this doesnt fit in deserts
22:21 VanessaE here are the actual texture files.
22:22 PilzAdam how do you craft the bricks?
22:22 khonkhortisan 4 sand if it's still regular sandstone
22:22 VanessaE I'd say craft the sandstone brick from four sandstone
22:22 hmmmm this ^
22:23 VanessaE 16 sand -> 4 sandstone -> 4 sandstone bricks
22:23 khonkhortisan -> 4 sandstone -> 16 sand ?
22:23 VanessaE well sure, if you wanna include the reverse
22:23 VanessaE I see nothing wrong with breaking sandstone back into sand, though I'd prefer a tool or machine be used to do that
22:24 VanessaE (e.g. some kind of grinder for the sandstone->sand step)
22:24 khonkhortisan So it's like how cobblestone breaks into cobble, but requires a furnace to turn back to stone
22:24 VanessaE yes exactly.
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22:33 hmmmm ew why is the gold texture all dark yellow
22:33 hmmmm shouldn't it look more golden
22:33 hmmmm kinda reminds me of american cheese
22:34 PilzAdam all the new textures that are drawn by me are just there to have something
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22:34 PilzAdam I would be happy if someone comes up with better textures
22:34 kaeza PilzAdam, why not use orig textures from moreores?
22:36 PilzAdam mostly because I havent seen that moreores had textures for it
22:36 hmmmm ah great job with the short grass
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22:38 jordan4ibanez I want to use the nodebox from realtest, is that legal? Need legal help over here. LEGAL HELP OVA HERE
22:39 jordan4ibanez err realtest anvils
22:39 PilzAdam the Realtest code is licensed under GPLv3
22:39 kaeza GPL... yuck
22:40 mauvebic GPLvInfinity
22:41 * StrayBytes will probably leave Minetest soon. Bye.
22:41 mauvebic jordan, legal or not, youre too young to be sued :p
22:41 jordan4ibanez So if I change the numbers slightly I won't have to release it with credit to them for the nodebox mwahahahahaha
22:41 mauvebic what do you think other people do? lol
22:42 mauvebic move some code around, change the numbers slightly, new variable names
22:42 jordan4ibanez I'm not using any variables, just the nodebox
22:42 mauvebic even better, throw in some useless variables
22:42 mauvebic multiply by 1
22:42 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, just do the nodebox yourself, the shape is not that hard
22:42 jordan4ibanez Oh it is, it'll take me years to do this, decades even
22:42 Exio divide by zero
22:43 Exio :D
22:43 PilzAdam Exio, need to try that, a nodebox where every value is divided by 0
22:44 Exio nodebox*i
22:44 Exio nodebox*sqrt(-1)   **
22:44 mauvebic local head= yes
22:44 PilzAdam that will be a complex nodebox ;-)
22:44 hmmmm holy crap bronze is pure orange
22:44 hmmmm eeeeewwww uglyugly
22:45 VanessaE hmmmm: use the ones from 16px HDX, they look nice IMHO
22:45 jordan4ibanez fak u hmmmm
22:45 PilzAdam hmmmm, Dont say anything against by AWESOME drawing skills!
22:46 mauvebic oompa loompa doopaty doo
22:46 mauvebic ive got bronze waiting for you
22:47 mauvebic im alot better at singing three little maids, i just dont have the voice for it
22:48 VanessaE hmmmm: https://raw.github.com/VanessaE/16px-realistic-textures/master/Vanessa_16/default_bronze_block.png
22:48 VanessaE see also, gold, copper and steel blocks
22:48 Kacey we could make speakers emit light!
22:48 hmmmm ah yeah looks much better
22:49 hmmmm i'm glad we used a nice looking diamond color and not that dark teal that minecraft seems to use
22:49 VanessaE I use a very pale light cyan for that.
22:49 VanessaE https://raw.github.com/VanessaE/16px-realistic-textures/master/Vanessa_16/default_diamond_block.png
22:50 PilzAdam VanessaE, the problem with the shadow is, that when the tiles are drawn on the nodes the shadows are at different edges
22:50 VanessaE PilzAdam: yeah I know, but that's simpyl the best we can do until we get real lighting and reflections
22:50 VanessaE (read:  that's the best than can be done, period)
22:51 PilzAdam going to sleep now; bye
22:51 VanessaE (because real lighting, reflections, specular highlights, etc. would be CPU-expensive)
22:53 VanessaE I HATE when he does that
22:53 VanessaE finish the damn conversation, THEN go to bed.
22:53 Exio haha
22:54 Exio VanessaE: i'd like the real lighting, reflections, amazing graphics - as they can be disabled
22:54 mauvebic <VanessaE> (because real lighting, reflections, specular highlights, etc. would be CPU-expensive) <-- have those in blockscape, CPU's feelin' fine
22:54 Exio i want to play on my netbook and in my desktop
22:54 VanessaE mauvebic: ever tried such things with really high-rez textures
22:54 VanessaE ?
22:54 mauvebic blockscape is all 64 or 128
22:54 Exio 512
22:54 mauvebic jesus
22:55 Xerxes` JESUS
22:55 mauvebic the key to advanced features is options to turn them off, that way it doesn't suck on dinky little computers
22:55 Xerxes` Isnt gonna help you son
22:55 mauvebic divine intervention is unlikely
22:56 mauvebic "what a dinky little car, i expect it's quite economical" - Hyacinth Bucket (pronounced Bouquet)
22:56 mauvebic besides judging from most of the boasting i seem to have the dinkiest rigs
22:58 NakedFury succesfully updated java
22:58 mauvebic Java? http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/262/c/8/meme_face_by_nskamikaze-d5f7yu4.jpg
23:02 kaeza mauvebic, fuuu.us
23:02 mauvebic funny looking url, not touching lol
23:02 VanessaE brb
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23:02 jordan4ibanez A nice balance, your tools itemlife is increased as much as the hammer's itemlife is increased, at the cost of 1 steelblock
23:03 ShadowNinja ShadowBot: title fuuu.us
23:03 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: All The Rage Faces! Troll Face, Forever Alone, Oh Stop It You, and more memes! - AllTheRageFaces.com
23:03 ShadowNinja mauvebic: ^
23:04 mauvebic oooh
23:04 mauvebic well i already found the one i wanted lol
23:07 VanessaE a few new ones there that I haven't seen before
23:08 mauvebic i almost stuck the impossibru face in colored lights thread lol
23:12 mauvebic is this even english? http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/04/21/1739254/stolen-laptop-owner-outwits-mugger-police-and-the-media?utm_source=slashdot&amp;utm_medium=twitter
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23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet dsada
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet dssad
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 khonkhortisan Well, you got my attention.
23:15 hmmmm man fuck off
23:15 SternNet waw
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet awewae
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 NakedFury fuck why are we getting this asshole again?
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:15 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:16 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:16 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:16 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:16 SternNet adwada
23:16 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:16 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:16 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:16 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:16 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:16 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:16 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:16 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
23:16 khonkhortisan /kick SternNet
23:16 SternNet And my shadow yearns ..... (for your flesh) Will you meet me my fragile for a rendezvous in a tomb (we're daemonized) Our rapture of passion is beauty in darkness  And I could see … the perversity  (in your eyes) The burning frost of your lips bite me kiss me desire me (we're sacred) Our symphony of damnation is beauty in blasphemy  And my diseased soul screams (for your ecstasy) Will you be my walker of shadows delight me with
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23:16 mauvebic cant we pay some mexican cartel to take care of this?
23:16 khonkhortisan I was looking at my web browser and that got my attention over here
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23:16 loverboy Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan nyuszika7h Pest PilzAdam preludelinux proller q66 RealBadAngel roboman2444 rsiska ruskie salamanderrake ShadowNinja sokomine Someguy123 ssieb StrayBytes tango_ Taoki TB`oFF|Vibe-X Telek TheBonsai
23:16 loverboy Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan nyuszika7h Pest PilzAdam preludelinux proller q66 RealBadAngel roboman2444 rsiska ruskie salamanderrake ShadowNinja sokomine Someguy123 ssieb StrayBytes tango_ Taoki TB`oFF|Vibe-X Telek TheBonsai
23:16 loverboy Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan nyuszika7h Pest PilzAdam preludelinux proller q66 RealBadAngel roboman2444 rsiska ruskie salamanderrake ShadowNinja sokomine Someguy123 ssieb StrayBytes tango_ Taoki TB`oFF|Vibe-X Telek TheBonsai
23:16 loverboy Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan nyuszika7h Pest PilzAdam preludelinux proller q66 RealBadAngel roboman2444 rsiska ruskie salamanderrake ShadowNinja sokomine Someguy123 ssieb StrayBytes tango_ Taoki TB`oFF|Vibe-X Telek TheBonsai
23:16 loverboy Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan nyuszika7h Pest PilzAdam preludelinux proller q66 RealBadAngel roboman2444 rsiska ruskie salamanderrake ShadowNinja sokomine Someguy123 ssieb StrayBytes tango_ Taoki TB`oFF|Vibe-X Telek TheBonsai
23:16 loverboy adasd
23:16 loverboy Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan nyuszika7h Pest PilzAdam preludelinux proller q66 RealBadAngel roboman2444 rsiska ruskie salamanderrake ShadowNinja sokomine Someguy123 ssieb StrayBytes tango_ Taoki TB`oFF|Vibe-X Telek TheBonsai
23:16 loverboy Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan nyuszika7h Pest PilzAdam preludelinux proller q66 RealBadAngel roboman2444 rsiska ruskie salamanderrake ShadowNinja sokomine Someguy123 ssieb StrayBytes tango_ Taoki TB`oFF|Vibe-X Telek TheBonsai
23:16 loverboy Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan nyuszika7h Pest PilzAdam preludelinux proller q66 RealBadAngel roboman2444 rsiska ruskie salamanderrake ShadowNinja sokomine Someguy123 ssieb StrayBytes tango_ Taoki TB`oFF|Vibe-X Telek TheBonsai
23:16 loverboy Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan nyuszika7h Pest PilzAdam preludelinux proller q66 RealBadAngel roboman2444 rsiska ruskie salamanderrake ShadowNinja sokomine Someguy123 ssieb StrayBytes tango_ Taoki TB`oFF|Vibe-X Telek TheBonsai
23:16 loverboy Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan nyuszika7h Pest PilzAdam preludelinux proller q66 RealBadAngel roboman2444 rsiska ruskie salamanderrake ShadowNinja sokomine Someguy123 ssieb StrayBytes tango_ Taoki TB`oFF|Vibe-X Telek TheBonsai
23:16 loverboy Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan nyuszika7h Pest PilzAdam preludelinux proller q66 RealBadAngel roboman2444 rsiska ruskie salamanderrake ShadowNinja sokomine Someguy123 ssieb StrayBytes tango_ Taoki TB`oFF|Vibe-X Telek TheBonsai
23:16 loverboy adwad
23:16 loverboy Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan nyuszika7h Pest PilzAdam preludelinux proller q66 RealBadAngel roboman2444 rsiska ruskie salamanderrake ShadowNinja sokomine Someguy123 ssieb StrayBytes tango_ Taoki TB`oFF|Vibe-X Telek TheBonsai
23:16 loverboy Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan nyuszika7h Pest PilzAdam preludelinux proller q66 RealBadAngel roboman2444 rsiska ruskie salamanderrake ShadowNinja sokomine Someguy123 ssieb StrayBytes tango_ Taoki TB`oFF|Vibe-X Telek TheBonsai
23:16 loverboy Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan nyuszika7h Pest PilzAdam preludelinux proller q66 RealBadAngel roboman2444 rsiska ruskie salamanderrake ShadowNinja sokomine Someguy123 ssieb StrayBytes tango_ Taoki TB`oFF|Vibe-X Telek TheBonsai
23:16 loverboy Gambit Gizmokid2005 harrison IceCraft jojoa1997|Tablet jordan4ibanez jrabbit Kacey kaeza khonkhortisan Koren Kray lahwran leo_rockway Leoneof lsner Matrixiumn mauvebic milleja46 Morrolan moruk mrdragons mrtux NakedFury Nikondork ningujoan nyuszika7h Pest PilzAdam preludelinux proller q66 RealBadAngel roboman2444 rsiska ruskie salamanderrake ShadowNinja sokomine Someguy123 ssieb StrayBytes tango_ Taoki TB`oFF|Vibe-X Telek TheBonsai
23:17 Kacey heh
23:17 loverboy left #minetest
23:17 jordan4ibanez devoice all webchat users
23:17 kaeza lol new IP
23:17 mauvebic so who's the idiot who unbanned the webchat?
23:17 NakedFury ^
23:17 NakedFury answer
23:17 VanessaE no one ever banned all of webchat
23:17 StrayBytes Maybe time to ask for guidance in #freenode?
23:17 VanessaE but it won't be long before I DO!
23:17 jordan4ibanez well ban the webchat users for fucking sake
23:17 NakedFury meh just ban webchat
23:17 mauvebic what more can they do but ban and kick too?
23:17 Kacey sfan5 accidentally unbanned everyone
23:17 * ShadowNinja points at his bot's auto-kick feature
23:17 VanessaE Kacey: I re-instated those bans.
23:17 NakedFury ShadowNinja share please
23:18 harrison ?
23:18 harrison ?     +   _
23:18 harrison ?  ?  ,'|,,'/
23:18 harrison '  '  /
23:18 harrison ?  ,-o o
23:18 mauvebic but someone keeps unblocking it for whatever silly reason
23:18 harrison _'    ,-
23:18 harrison |   /'
23:18 harrison '--
23:18 harrison was kicked by VanessaE: stop.
23:18 khonkhortisan minetest webchat: Download one of these irc clients [list] and go to this channel on this network: [this]
23:18 harrison joined #minetest
23:18 jojoa1997|Tablet HE EMERGES http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=85728#p85728
23:18 harrison stopped
23:18 kaeza 1) ban webchat 2) tell them to get a real IRC client 3) ??? 4) profit
23:18 ShadowNinja ShadowBot: config plugins.AttackProtector.message.detection
23:18 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: Global: 10p20; #minetest: 10p20
23:18 ShadowNinja ShadowBot: config plugins.AttackProtector.message.punishment
23:18 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: Global: kick; #minetest: kick
23:19 mauvebic i still think paying off the mexican cartel to get rid of him might not be a bad idea
23:19 ShadowNinja NakedFury: ^
23:19 khonkhortisan 3) could be requiring freenode authentication
23:19 mauvebic does paypal take donations for that sortof thing?
23:19 VanessaE there.
23:19 kaeza khonkhortisan, you need freenode auth to ban from your channel? lol
23:20 VanessaE enough's enough/
23:20 Kacey http://alltheragefaces.com/face/laughing-lol-crazy
23:20 NakedFury now I need an auto-ignore plugin to ignore spammers
23:20 VanessaE I agree 100% with kaeza - get a real damn IRC client.
23:20 mrtux yeah
23:20 khonkhortisan Webchat is the same kind of unauthenticated connection as an irc client. Authentication would make a difference.
23:21 mauvebic or close the channel to unregistered nick
23:21 mauvebic *nicks
23:21 VanessaE anyone know how long that +q will persist?
23:21 mrtux hope forever.
23:21 khonkhortisan registered nicks, that's what I meant
23:21 VanessaE mrtux:  I hope so too.
23:21 mrtux How hard is it to get a REAL irc client.
23:21 ShadowNinja VanessaE: You added two bans for the same IP
23:21 VanessaE ShadowNinja: yeah I know
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23:21 mrtux 1. http://hexchat.org  2. ...profit
23:22 VanessaE there.
23:22 kaeza fair enough
23:22 mauvebic seriously, put a warning in the topic, give everyone a week to register their nick, then seal off the borders to all non-cardassian vessels
23:22 mrtux good idea
23:22 mauvebic uhm, unregistered nicks
23:23 Kacey registered
23:23 mrtux #freenode has some channel called #freenode-unreg for unregistered people i think
23:23 mauvebic you can stick a warning note on the website about the chat channel needed nick registration
23:23 mauvebic thats not something you have to handle yourself, its done through freenode
23:23 VanessaE naw, that goes a bit too far
23:23 mauvebic so has landmine lol
23:23 VanessaE +q is enough to stifle the majority of trolls.
23:23 mrtux yes
23:24 mauvebic whtever you say, but youll need at least one mod on at all times :p
23:24 mauvebic that means, no pee breaks
23:24 * ShadowNinja notices #freenode only has 3 channel bans, they must use k-lines and g-lines almost exclusively
23:24 mrtux VanessaE: I wouldn't call them trolls; I'd call them immature kids.
23:24 mrtux Done.
23:24 mauvebic shall we put a donate button up for catheters for all our mods?
23:25 mrtux mauvebic: meh.
23:25 khonkhortisan doesn't have a happy ending: http://www.freearcade.com/Secretnet.flash/Secretnet.html
23:25 mrtux mauvebic: why not spend all day in the bathroom? :p
23:25 * mrtux is done talking about that
23:25 mauvebic good idea, we could get our moderators to setup their offices in the bathroom
23:25 mrtux heh
23:25 mauvebic *their
23:26 NakedFury we always end up short of the proper mesassures
23:26 mrtux Maybe minetestbot should kick/ban if someone says the same thing again and again?
23:26 VanessaE NakedFury: the "proper" measures have too much collateral damahe
23:26 VanessaE damage*
23:26 mauvebic everyone's speaking spanish all of a sudden
23:26 mrtux and give the actor a PM telling them to stop.
23:26 Renoki joined #minetest
23:27 NakedFury but who hasnt registered their nicks yet?
23:27 mrtux one way to find out
23:27 Renoki I just reregistered
23:27 mrtux /msg nickserv info nickname
23:27 Renoki haven't been on in a while x.x
23:27 Renoki also, hi!
23:27 mauvebic i did it the last time this guy went on a rampage lol because they were going to close off the channel to unregistered nicks
23:27 VanessaE hi Renoki
23:28 mauvebic since then they havent had better luck dealing with LM
23:28 mrtux hi Renoki
23:28 khonkhortisan I don't care about a cloak, but I was quick to register
23:28 * Renoki waves. :)
23:28 khonkhortisan hi Renoki
23:28 ShadowNinja Hello Renoki
23:28 mauvebic had religious people at the door today, so i answered in my underwear, shortest visit EVER lol
23:28 Renoki lol
23:29 VanessaE mauvebic: next time, answer the door naked :)
23:29 mauvebic i could get arrested lol
23:29 VanessaE heh
23:29 VanessaE (I have no stomach at all for door-to-door religious nutjobs)
23:29 mauvebic just because its a cheap rent they think were gullible, wtf lol
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23:30 khonkhortisan Why are abms not consistent?
23:30 khonkhortisan It just started snowing, I run down the road, and all of a sudden everything's covered.
23:30 mauvebic because you have to be in the area for them to work
23:31 mauvebic if i understood your Q correctly
23:31 khonkhortisan Run back, there's barely any snow on the ground.
23:31 mauvebic ooh because ABM's play catchup
23:31 khonkhortisan they're doing more than catchup
23:31 mauvebic yeah that happens too
23:31 khonkhortisan it's like it assumes abms don't change
23:31 mauvebic its gradual where you happen to be, and sudden in new areas you move into
23:32 mauvebic though trying to force load every area where an abm is supposed to affect would kill your CPU and framerate in no time
23:32 khonkhortisan I should just write my own mod-powered abm
23:32 mauvebic not sure how abms could be improved upon
23:33 mauvebic if you increase your view range, it shouldn't be as bad
23:33 khonkhortisan instant winter wonderland: Just load the next block
23:33 Exio hahaha
23:33 Exio now the spammer didn't highlight me
23:33 mauvebic he'll be back
23:33 mauvebic size issues and all
23:33 khonkhortisan I got highlighted this time, normally I don't
23:34 Exio well
23:36 Exio VanessaE: ping?
23:36 Exio i need a small query with an op :P
23:37 Kacey jordan4ibanez, i made a working piston door
23:37 jordan4ibanez Good job, can I see?
23:38 Kacey sure join my server
23:38 Kacey 67.190.14.129
23:39 Kacey stopped working lol
23:39 ShadowNinja Kacey: what about that debug info for the pong game?
23:39 jordan4ibanez Not now, later though!
23:39 jordan4ibanez I feel bad for the spammer, it seems like it has mental health issues
23:39 Kacey i will debug it later tonight ShadowNinja
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23:43 Exio :D
23:51 VanessaE Exio: yes?
23:54 jojoa1997|Tablet joined #minetest
23:57 Exio VanessaE: query?
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23:57 Exio (sorry, was afk :P)
23:59 Gambit VanessaE: here's the spammers latest IP: 04-21 19:52:51| --> salgov (cc5d3c39@gateway/web/freenode/ip.204.93.60.57) has joined #minecraft

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