Time |
Nick |
Message |
00:00 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: kwolekr commited to celeron55/minetest: Merge pull request #503 from RealBadAngel/master 6b9906687b 2013-02-23T15:58:00-08:00 http://git.io/ADXp1g |
00:02 |
Kacey |
Menche, PING |
00:03 |
Menche |
pingity ping |
00:03 |
Menche |
? |
00:03 |
Kacey |
why aren't you installing technic? |
00:05 |
NekoGloop |
pongity pon |
00:05 |
NekoGloop |
pong* |
00:09 |
NekoGloop |
Bug: I can kill myself by climbing. |
00:09 |
NekoGloop |
Fix it dammit, you're making climbing useless. |
00:09 |
Menche |
climbing downward with fast move? |
00:10 |
NekoGloop |
... That's just fucking stupid. |
00:11 |
Menche |
IMO the movement stuff and fast_move shouldn't apply to climbing |
00:11 |
ShadowNinja |
kacey: technic lags, that is why I just removed it from my server |
00:12 |
ShadowNinja |
and by lag I mean cpu lag |
00:12 |
Kacey |
my server doesnt lag worse than it did without technic |
00:17 |
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00:17 |
NekoGloop |
Anyone got a good cloud-y texture? |
00:18 |
VanessaE |
cloudy? |
00:18 |
VanessaE |
o.O |
00:18 |
MinetestBot |
VanessaE: What are you wondering about? |
00:18 |
NekoGloop |
Yes, a cloud texture :) |
00:18 |
jordan4ibanez |
Where do you get that image that shows if an ip adress is reachable? |
00:18 |
VanessaE |
er.. |
00:19 |
jordan4ibanez |
Like sfan5's server |
00:20 |
VanessaE |
I am wondering if I should don my steel boots and kick that bot squarely in the ass |
00:20 |
Menche |
does !up work? |
00:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
!up |
00:20 |
MinetestBot |
jordan4ibanez: Give me a Server Address |
00:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
!up google.com |
00:20 |
MinetestBot |
google.com:30000 seems to be down |
00:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
00:21 |
Menche |
!up menche.servegame.com 30005 |
00:21 |
MinetestBot |
menche.servegame.com:30005 is up (0.477ms) |
00:21 |
Menche |
!up menche.servegame.com 30000 |
00:21 |
MinetestBot |
menche.servegame.com:30000 is up (0.321ms) |
00:21 |
jordan4ibanez |
Now sfan5 actually did that with a sticker |
00:21 |
jordan4ibanez |
or an image on his forum psot |
00:21 |
jordan4ibanez |
post* |
00:23 |
jordan4ibanez |
I have an idea |
00:24 |
Kacey |
player "pig" is now banned |
00:24 |
jordan4ibanez |
What is a good protection plugin? |
00:24 |
jordan4ibanez |
Why is pig banned? |
00:25 |
Kacey |
griefing (he isnt banned i rolled him back too far |
00:26 |
Kacey |
we need 2 glow glass Menche and we cannot craft it |
00:29 |
NekoGloop |
VanessaE: So can you make me a cloud texture pwease? :) |
00:30 |
VanessaE |
no |
00:30 |
NekoGloop |
why not :( |
00:32 |
VanessaE |
burned out for now |
00:46 |
khonkhortisan |
vi doc/init.lua - wait, what? |
00:50 |
jordan4ibanez |
I need some help with www html stuff |
00:51 |
jordan4ibanez |
thexyz are you there |
00:52 |
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00:57 |
Kacey |
!up menche.servegame.com 30005 |
00:57 |
MinetestBot |
menche.servegame.com:30005 is up (1.503ms) |
00:57 |
Menche |
that's jordan's server |
00:58 |
Kacey |
aah |
00:58 |
Menche |
i'm just relaying the connection |
00:58 |
Kacey |
can i have one? |
00:58 |
Menche |
he's hosting the server himself; i'm forwarding the port for him |
00:59 |
Kacey |
? |
00:59 |
Menche |
we're on a vpn |
00:59 |
Kacey |
aah |
01:01 |
jordan4ibanez |
Lol I'm going through the whole process of creating an entire apache server JUST TO HOST A PICTURE |
01:02 |
khonkhortisan |
I read "aah" more like Aah! than ahh... or ah/oh. |
01:02 |
khonkhortisan |
Well you should've started the server earlier |
01:02 |
khonkhortisan |
I can just put the picture up |
01:03 |
Menche |
what you hosting the picture for? |
01:03 |
khonkhortisan |
A search for temporary image hosting will satisfy most needs |
01:03 |
jordan4ibanez |
To show if my server is up :3 |
01:04 |
khonkhortisan |
with a crontab? |
01:04 |
jordan4ibanez |
what is a crontab? |
01:04 |
Menche |
for sceduling tasks |
01:04 |
khonkhortisan |
A unix system of running a command on schedule |
01:04 |
Menche |
i use it for my backups and map updates |
01:05 |
jordan4ibanez |
I just clone the virtual servers |
01:05 |
khonkhortisan |
I could use it but don't ☺ |
01:06 |
Menche |
i could try to hava an image based on whether a ping goes through to your server |
01:06 |
Menche |
don't know how to test if the minetestserver is actually running though |
01:07 |
khonkhortisan |
output.png = (ping server) ? on.png : off.png |
01:07 |
jordan4ibanez |
We could make a mod :D |
01:07 |
khonkhortisan |
out = ping and on or off |
01:07 |
jordan4ibanez |
Try http://menche.servegame.com:30005/test.html |
01:07 |
jordan4ibanez |
It wants to load, but can't :P |
01:07 |
khonkhortisan |
that's worse than an error |
01:08 |
khonkhortisan |
uh, why are you hosting it on a minetest port? |
01:09 |
Menche |
don't think you can have a webserver and minetestserver on the same port... |
01:09 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oopsies |
01:09 |
khonkhortisan |
Even if you skip that port for minetest, it's an unusual port for html |
01:09 |
Menche |
usually 80 |
01:09 |
khonkhortisan |
8080 if that doesn't work |
01:10 |
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01:10 |
* khonkhortisan |
feels like a swimming athlete |
01:10 |
Kacey |
y? |
01:10 |
khonkhortisan |
minetest+swimming+fast+recent physics change |
01:10 |
khonkhortisan |
I can swim so fast I hurt myself |
01:10 |
Kacey |
lol |
01:10 |
Menche |
jumping 10 meters out of the water? |
01:11 |
khonkhortisan |
diving into the bottom of the ocean |
01:11 |
Menche |
killing yourself by swimming downwards too fast? |
01:11 |
khonkhortisan |
yeah |
01:11 |
khonkhortisan |
but not up or sideways |
01:11 |
Menche |
making server status images |
01:11 |
khonkhortisan |
I can also waterjump |
01:12 |
khonkhortisan |
skipping across the surface |
01:13 |
NekoGloop |
Because you can so jump 10m out of the water irl |
01:13 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oh nooooooooooo |
01:14 |
jordan4ibanez |
I submitted my forum post on accident! I can't edit the poll! |
01:14 |
khonkhortisan |
delete it? |
01:14 |
jordan4ibanez |
How? |
01:15 |
jordan4ibanez |
VanessaE please delete this FAST!: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4888 |
01:16 |
Menche |
there should be a "delete" button at the bottom of the post |
01:17 |
jordan4ibanez |
There's not |
01:17 |
VanessaE |
dekleted. |
01:17 |
VanessaE |
deleted, too. |
01:17 |
* khonkhortisan |
goes off to reklete something |
01:18 |
Menche |
You had your post both dekleted AND deleted?!?! |
01:18 |
* jordan4ibanez |
hugs vanessa |
01:18 |
MinetestBot |
jordan4ibanez: :D |
01:18 |
khonkhortisan |
oh that's an adjective |
01:18 |
jordan4ibanez |
thank you :D |
01:20 |
* Kacey |
hugs himself |
01:20 |
MinetestBot |
Kacey: :D |
01:20 |
Kacey |
hugs |
01:20 |
Kacey |
nope didnt work |
01:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
hugs |
01:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
hmm |
01:20 |
* jordan4ibanez |
hugs |
01:20 |
* khonkhortisan |
hugs |
01:21 |
* jordan4ibanez |
hugs poop |
01:21 |
MinetestBot |
jordan4ibanez: :D |
01:21 |
jordan4ibanez |
wtf |
01:21 |
khonkhortisan |
hehe |
01:21 |
jordan4ibanez |
O.o |
01:21 |
MinetestBot |
jordan4ibanez: What are you wondering about? |
01:21 |
* khonkhortisan |
hugs ":D" |
01:21 |
MinetestBot |
khonkhortisan: :D |
01:21 |
jordan4ibanez |
ITS ALIVE D: |
01:21 |
khonkhortisan |
You! Wondering about you! |
01:21 |
* Menche |
puts a puppy on MinetestBot's harddrive |
01:21 |
MinetestBot |
Menche: Awwwww.... |
01:22 |
* khonkhortisan |
puts a kitten on MinetestBot harddrive, which then starts fighting with the puppy in a way MinetestBot can't say "Aww" about. |
01:22 |
MinetestBot |
khonkhortisan: I don't want it, talk to NekoGloop, he likes kittens |
01:22 |
khonkhortisan |
oh |
01:22 |
* NekoGloop |
hugs ALL THE PEOPLE. |
01:22 |
MinetestBot |
NekoGloop: :D |
01:23 |
khonkhortisan |
it worked |
01:23 |
khonkhortisan |
mbot didn't say aww |
01:23 |
Menche |
how do you check whether a command was successful? |
01:23 |
MiJyn |
minetestbot, you are mean |
01:23 |
khonkhortisan |
whether mbot says anything |
01:23 |
MiJyn |
hugs |
01:23 |
MiJyn |
hugs minetestbot |
01:23 |
* MiJyn |
huts minetestbot |
01:23 |
* khonkhortisan |
hugs MinetestBot |
01:23 |
MinetestBot |
khonkhortisan: :D |
01:23 |
* MiJyn |
hugs minetest bot |
01:23 |
MinetestBot |
MiJyn: :D |
01:23 |
MiJyn |
FINALLY |
01:24 |
khonkhortisan |
What does it take to make a self-repairing machine? |
01:25 |
NekoGloop |
khonkhortisan: A kitten, elbow grease, and a few years of training |
01:25 |
jordan4ibanez |
This is the best commit yet http://goo.gl/zeB07 |
01:25 |
khonkhortisan |
I'd need a blood vein of pipeworks, with a dispenser to replace the blood vein, with another dispenser to replace that dispenser, and so on |
01:26 |
Menche |
how do you test whether a server is running? |
01:26 |
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01:26 |
hmmmm |
there |
01:26 |
khonkhortisan |
Let's see who moves the key config there first |
01:26 |
Traxie21 |
MenHia |
01:26 |
hmmmm |
there's sample code for it in docs/protocol.txt* |
01:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
You ping it menche |
01:27 |
khonkhortisan |
killall minetestserver |
01:27 |
NekoGloop |
jordan4ibanez: No, this is: https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest/commit/3849349c19fb9f8ad0eb9b821efb8f5f98e71ae9 |
01:27 |
Traxie21 |
Is there a way to close formspecs with custom keys? |
01:27 |
VanessaE |
can I get a few people to download today's updates of moretrees and plantlife and tell me if they experience any crashes? |
01:27 |
khonkhortisan |
formspecs are very limited |
01:27 |
VanessaE |
this has me stymied: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=72310#p72310 |
01:28 |
Traxie21 |
khonk, with a bit of ingenuity, you can do a lot with a formspec |
01:28 |
Kacey |
http://menche.servegame.com/ no map anymore? |
01:28 |
Traxie21 |
I just made a achievements system |
01:28 |
Menche |
wow, not sure what happened |
01:28 |
Traxie21 |
https://github.com/Traxie21/achievements |
01:31 |
Kacey |
found a desert cave lol |
01:32 |
khonkhortisan |
how do I get to the sound menu? |
01:32 |
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01:32 |
khonkhortisan |
oh. Have to 'make' after 'git pull' |
01:32 |
Kacey |
http://ompldr.org/vaGtncA/screenshot_164879085.png |
01:32 |
Kacey |
cmake first lol |
01:33 |
khonkhortisan |
every time? |
01:33 |
Menche |
Kacey: fixed the map page |
01:34 |
Menche |
but minetestmapper only made half a map :( |
01:34 |
Menche |
"terminate called after throwing an instance of 'DbError'" |
01:34 |
Kacey |
http://menche.servegame.com/ it says welcome to nginx |
01:34 |
Menche |
should be fixed now |
01:35 |
Menche |
minetestmapper is only generating a small section of the map |
01:35 |
jordan4ibanez |
I can't wait for that particle spawner in c++ THE POSSIBILITIES :D |
01:42 |
ShadowNinja |
has anyone else noticed that node placement prediction seems to be off for all blocks in latest git? |
01:43 |
RealBadAngel |
there was a patch about it |
01:43 |
RealBadAngel |
check latest commits |
01:43 |
jordan4ibanez |
RBA When is your compooper coming out? |
01:43 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
01:44 |
RealBadAngel |
dunno, last 2 days ive spent inside engine |
01:45 |
RealBadAngel |
just pulled some code bout trees |
01:45 |
RealBadAngel |
tommorrow morning i want to finish 6d facedir patch |
01:45 |
jordan4ibanez |
oh ok |
01:45 |
* ShadowNinja |
compiles and gets lag heaven |
01:46 |
jordan4ibanez |
I wonder if there could be a basic reload mod, which on server close loads a .sh file which starts up the server |
01:46 |
RealBadAngel |
and then i will start adding new elements and fixes for formspec |
01:46 |
RealBadAngel |
which are needed by computer |
01:46 |
VanessaE |
jordan4ibanez: that's easily done. while true; do sleep 1; minetestserver --foo --bar --blah; done |
01:46 |
jordan4ibanez |
What will the computer be able to do? CAN I EMAIL OTHER computers? |
01:47 |
jordan4ibanez |
oops caps lock lol |
01:47 |
RealBadAngel |
huh, possibly |
01:47 |
RealBadAngel |
just write an app for it |
01:47 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oh okay, neato, I wish there was a very basic server console gui :L |
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01:48 |
Kacey |
i can make an IO expander for the computers if you just make them rba |
01:49 |
Kacey |
so digilines can be used |
01:49 |
RealBadAngel |
that will be needed too |
01:49 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, Hi! |
01:49 |
RealBadAngel |
hi OldCoder |
01:50 |
Menche |
hmmmm: how to use that? i assume it is BASH? |
01:50 |
NekoGloop |
ComputerCraft in MT? |
01:50 |
Kacey |
more of redpower 2 |
01:50 |
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01:50 |
RealBadAngel |
by now sinple command line intterpreter |
01:51 |
NekoGloop |
Hell, as long as it ain't fuckin' FORTH. |
01:51 |
jordan4ibanez |
If you guys make redpower in minetest :D |
01:51 |
jordan4ibanez |
FORTH is easy, why not put it in there? |
01:51 |
RealBadAngel |
we already have forth in lua |
01:51 |
RealBadAngel |
also lua in lua is possible |
01:52 |
Kacey |
lol luacontrollers |
01:52 |
RealBadAngel |
not really |
01:52 |
NekoGloop |
FORTH is easy; you only have to invent the stone, the chisel, the tools to make the chisel, and the tools to make those tools, in order to make the wheel. |
01:52 |
RealBadAngel |
http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaInterpreterInLua |
01:52 |
RealBadAngel |
lua in a sandbox |
01:53 |
jordan4ibanez |
I run on lua |
01:53 |
jordan4ibanez |
But can lua run on me? |
01:53 |
NekoGloop |
I run on caffeeine. |
01:53 |
RealBadAngel |
so writing programs in it wont crash the game |
01:53 |
jordan4ibanez |
Can you run c++ in lua? |
01:53 |
RealBadAngel |
but just ingame computer |
01:54 |
Menche |
you can load a c++ library from lua, that's how the irc mod works |
01:54 |
jordan4ibanez |
Can we write minetest mods in the computer you're making? |
01:54 |
Menche |
can we run minetest in the computer you're making? |
01:54 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oh okay |
01:55 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
01:55 |
NekoGloop |
I have a youtube subscriber without any videos. |
01:55 |
jordan4ibanez |
I wonder if we can create computers with minetest |
01:56 |
RealBadAngel |
why not? |
01:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
Well it'd take an incredible amount of energy to create hardware and software, then write an OS |
01:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
What OS will your computers have? |
01:57 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/user/GloopTheMaster 1 subscriber - 0 videos. |
01:57 |
RealBadAngel |
im targeting on porting CP/M on it |
01:57 |
NekoGloop |
LOGIC. WHERE ART THOUGH. |
01:57 |
NekoGloop |
THOU, even. |
01:58 |
jin_xi |
so its a Z80? |
01:58 |
NekoGloop |
Guess I'm just that good. (âŒâ– _â– ) |
01:59 |
RealBadAngel |
yes |
01:59 |
khonkhortisan |
You need mesecons to make computers in minetest |
02:00 |
NekoGloop |
khonkhortisan: He's making a computer in lua. |
02:00 |
khonkhortisan |
jordan4ibanez, you can just use creative mode |
02:01 |
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02:02 |
Kacey |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pyrTM_aZQI found the rp2 computer |
02:02 |
jordan4ibanez |
No to make computers with guis, and such :D |
02:03 |
hmmmm |
Menche, no, it clearly says that it's PHP |
02:04 |
Menche |
oh, dug |
02:04 |
Menche |
*duh |
02:04 |
hmmmm |
try something like: php check_server.php |
02:04 |
hmmmm |
if you have php installed |
02:04 |
Menche |
suppose i should have read the whole thing :P |
02:05 |
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02:05 |
VanessaE |
oops |
02:06 |
VanessaE |
brb |
02:06 |
RealBadAngel |
hehe |
02:06 |
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02:06 |
VanessaE |
bah, stupid thing. |
02:06 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: kwolekr commited to celeron55/minetest: Merge pull request #505 from RealBadAngel/master 9bd76f2972 2013-02-23T18:06:07-08:00 http://git.io/Dbfi-Q |
02:14 |
* Kacey |
REALLY wants that computer |
02:16 |
* ShadowNinja |
likes the volume change option |
02:31 |
* Kacey |
is bored... |
02:32 |
RealBadAngel |
ShadowNinja, way better than previous one, isnt it? |
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02:34 |
RealBadAngel |
btw have you done anything new with the force fields? |
02:34 |
Kacey |
oops |
02:39 |
Kacey |
[string "if event.(type == "digiline" channel == "1" msg == "false") and..."]:1: '<name>' expected near '(' |
02:39 |
Kacey |
? |
02:41 |
Kacey |
how do i make it so that if 2 digiline channels and messages are correct, a port is true? |
02:52 |
Traxie21 |
meow |
02:53 |
Kacey |
moo |
02:53 |
ShadowNinja |
Kacey use event == {type="digiline, channel="1",msg="false"} |
02:54 |
Kacey |
k |
02:54 |
Kacey |
( or { |
02:54 |
Kacey |
does it matter? |
02:54 |
ShadowNinja |
and RealBad angel much better, I havn't worked on it recently |
02:54 |
ShadowNinja |
it is { |
02:55 |
Kacey |
does it matter? |
02:55 |
ShadowNinja |
() organizes {} specifies a table |
02:55 |
Kacey |
aah |
02:55 |
ShadowNinja |
s/organizes/groups/ |
02:57 |
Kacey |
not seeming to work |
02:58 |
ShadowNinja |
is that all there is in event? |
02:58 |
Kacey |
ill pm you the code |
02:59 |
ShadowNinja |
if not you can just do event.type=="digiline" and event.channel ... |
03:00 |
Kacey |
no because i need 2 channels to send the false message for it to work |
03:00 |
* ShadowNinja |
needs to get irssi notifications to work |
03:01 |
ShadowNinja |
sorry if I don't respond to pm's |
03:02 |
Kacey |
pmed |
03:03 |
ShadowNinja |
of course it will fail, it is like saying if x==1 and x==2 |
03:03 |
Kacey |
then how do i get it to work? |
03:03 |
ShadowNinja |
you need to use memory |
03:03 |
NekoGloop |
ew irssi |
03:04 |
ShadowNinja |
mem.* is persistent |
03:04 |
Kacey |
? |
03:04 |
ShadowNinja |
thexyz: if you are online can you help? |
03:05 |
ShadowNinja |
when you get a signal you have to save it |
03:05 |
Kacey |
how? |
03:05 |
ShadowNinja |
mem.got_first_part_of_message=true |
03:06 |
Kacey |
? |
03:06 |
ShadowNinja |
as soon as you get a digiline message it is removed |
03:07 |
ShadowNinja |
write it on a luacontroller on my server and I can try to rewrite it |
03:07 |
Kacey |
ip? |
03:08 |
ShadowNinja |
67.241.154.164 |
03:08 |
ShadowNinja |
serverlist is working now |
03:08 |
Kacey |
mine isnt |
03:09 |
Kacey |
i think serverlist_url is wrong |
03:10 |
ShadowNinja |
do you have it compiled with curl? |
03:11 |
ShadowNinja |
RealBadAngel: could you add a clear inventory button to unified_inventory? |
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ShadowNinja |
can someone get [ and ] working in formspecs please? |
03:25 |
Kacey |
? |
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Kacey |
getting off for the nighr |
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Kacey |
night* |
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jordan4ibanez |
ok so everything on my server is fully automated |
04:04 |
jordan4ibanez |
my computer starts up at 8:50, which when it gets to the desktop it starts up the virtual server, which starts/restarts the server every 1 hour, so I could not be there for a week and it'd work |
04:05 |
jordan4ibanez |
Also you can give a post THOUSANDS of views by holding down the refresh button |
04:05 |
jordan4ibanez |
I just gave your server 400 views in 15 seconds VanessaE lol |
04:07 |
jordan4ibanez |
But how do I have it so I can see what a chron job is doing in the terminal? |
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jordan4ibanez |
I've created a bash script that starts the server, then if minetest crashes, restarts the script, but now I can't stop it lol |
04:18 |
sdzen |
this is why man invented the power cord :) |
04:18 |
jordan4ibanez |
Oh wait I stopped it |
04:18 |
jordan4ibanez |
Now that joke isn't funny :( |
04:19 |
sdzen |
hmmmm look at this cave http://i2.minus.com/igS8CrP8Jtjsd.png |
04:20 |
hmmmm |
that is a pretty crazy cave |
04:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
WTF are you wielding?! |
04:20 |
hmmmm |
it's not my fault though |
04:21 |
sdzen |
I have never seen a cave like that before :) |
04:21 |
NekoGloop |
Oh hey, look, it's that server that I can't join |
04:22 |
sdzen |
oh and VanessaE your trees eat caves :P |
04:22 |
sdzen |
guess they were hungry |
04:22 |
sdzen |
http://i3.minus.com/ibxtw4NkOVJbZm.png |
04:25 |
jordan4ibanez |
No |
04:25 |
jordan4ibanez |
Just no |
04:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
YES my server auto starts up :D :D :D |
04:26 |
Menche |
seems to be down at the moment |
04:27 |
jordan4ibanez |
Why do you say that? |
04:28 |
jordan4ibanez |
Menche can you have the image cronjob run at */1 on the minute |
04:30 |
Menche |
what does that do? |
04:31 |
jordan4ibanez |
*/1 makes it happen every minute |
04:32 |
jordan4ibanez |
or hour, or whatever you put it under */1 is whichever is divisable by 1 |
04:34 |
Menche |
ok |
04:34 |
Menche |
and, i modified the checking script |
04:35 |
Menche |
now, rather than pinging the server, it actually checks if minetestserver is running |
04:35 |
jordan4ibanez |
Sweet |
04:35 |
Menche |
modified the code from minetestbot |
04:35 |
jordan4ibanez |
Very smart |
04:37 |
NekoGloop |
What does the "builder" specialty do? |
04:39 |
sdzen |
hmm menche does it also check for minetest --server? running? |
04:40 |
Menche |
it begins to connect to the server and checks for the server's response |
04:40 |
jordan4ibanez |
What is this? https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/bc2e9dbaf2fe31a1aa8282c0ac7c87aee490c75c |
04:41 |
Menche |
something to do with announcing the server status to the official server list |
04:41 |
jordan4ibanez |
Hmm, i wonder if it's like MOTD or something |
04:42 |
Menche |
http://servers.minetest.net |
04:42 |
Menche |
apparently only 3 server owners have figured out how to use it |
04:42 |
jordan4ibanez |
lmfao |
04:43 |
Menche |
took me a few tries to get it working |
04:44 |
jordan4ibanez |
wow finite liquid server is amazing |
04:44 |
jordan4ibanez |
the finite liquid is so fast |
04:45 |
sdzen |
I enabled it but It doesn't pick up on mine :) |
04:46 |
sdzen |
I filled out everything |
04:46 |
sdzen |
but it wont show up :) |
04:46 |
Menche |
is it really slow or is it just my internet connection |
04:48 |
jordan4ibanez |
Just your internet connection |
04:48 |
jordan4ibanez |
I detonated 20 things of hardcore mese tnt :L |
04:53 |
sdzen |
goodbye world! |
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04:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
sdzen was so young |
04:58 |
jordan4ibanez |
he was like 6 or something |
05:04 |
jordan4ibanez |
What is a good protection/land claim plugin? |
05:05 |
Menche |
i used to use node_ownership |
05:05 |
Menche |
it requires a moderator to give out areas though |
05:05 |
Menche |
i was lazy this time, i use protector now |
05:07 |
jordan4ibanez |
What are moderator privs? |
05:07 |
Menche |
i forget |
05:08 |
Menche |
protector doesn't add any special privs |
05:09 |
jordan4ibanez |
What about cornernote's node_ownership? |
05:09 |
Menche |
i forget what the privs were, but a moderator had to assign areas for players |
05:09 |
jordan4ibanez |
nevermind that stinks |
05:09 |
jordan4ibanez |
hmmmm |
05:09 |
jordan4ibanez |
I think I'll just add it in to protect spawn |
05:09 |
Menche |
a player could assign sub-areas of one of his areas himself, though |
05:09 |
Menche |
it was really hard to use |
05:10 |
Menche |
the coords couldn't overlap |
05:10 |
jordan4ibanez |
Is it good for spawn protection? Does it protect against falling nodes like sand?\ |
05:10 |
jordan4ibanez |
sand* |
05:10 |
Menche |
i don't think it can |
05:10 |
Menche |
what i use now is protector |
05:10 |
jordan4ibanez |
what is protector? |
05:11 |
Menche |
a player can place a special block, and everything with 8 blocks of it is claimed |
05:11 |
Menche |
not as flexible, but much easier and keeps me from being flooded with requests to protect areas |
05:11 |
jordan4ibanez |
Does that protect against falling nodes? |
05:12 |
Menche |
i don't think it checks for entities |
05:12 |
jordan4ibanez |
Man there's not one thing that can protect against falling nodes |
05:12 |
Menche |
you can just use rollback to get anything that protection misses |
05:12 |
Menche |
rollback even undos fire damage |
05:13 |
Menche |
rollback logging isn't enabled by default, though |
05:14 |
MiJyn |
bye all |
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jordan4ibanez |
What a perdicament |
05:30 |
jordan4ibanez |
Man minetest servers are a bit easier to work with then minecraft servers |
05:32 |
FreeFull |
Are minecraft servers written in java? |
05:32 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yea, but bukkit is supposed to be extremely easy |
05:33 |
jordan4ibanez |
With latest updates it has become a compatability/privelage mess |
05:38 |
jordan4ibanez |
http://youtu.be/aKEcGSgLWYE |
05:38 |
jordan4ibanez |
Lowers your blood pressure |
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akerok |
Hello. |
06:09 |
jordan4ibanez |
My game settings aren't getting saved to the minetest.conf |
06:10 |
jordan4ibanez |
hi azerok |
06:11 |
akerok |
How are you? |
06:11 |
jordan4ibanez |
Grand, and yourself? |
06:13 |
akerok |
I'm alright. Just trying to figure out what's wrong with my mods. |
06:14 |
jordan4ibanez |
nice |
06:14 |
jordan4ibanez |
Aparently when you compile minetest as a server alone it can't modify the minetest.conf? |
06:15 |
akerok |
Really? |
06:15 |
jordan4ibanez |
celeron55 is this correct? Or am I doing something wrong? |
06:15 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yes, it appears to be so, I checked if it was writable and it is |
06:19 |
akerok |
I see. I'm doing as much research as I can on Lua and C right now. I want to try to help develop Minetest if I can. |
06:22 |
akerok |
I'm starting by working on a mod. Hopefully, this will give me some background so I can help improve the game ultimately. |
06:24 |
MiJyn |
Hey, I'm totally off-topic! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bis0ZnKQTK0 !!!! |
06:24 |
MiJyn |
good song though :P |
06:24 |
MiJyn |
well, I gtg to bed, see y'all later (yes, I know, you missed my many 0 lines that I wrote today ;) |
06:25 |
akerok |
Take care. |
06:25 |
MiJyn |
thanks :) |
06:25 |
MiJyn |
oh, btw, I have done lots of work on my mod, might release it soon :D |
06:25 |
akerok |
You are welcome. |
06:25 |
MiJyn |
(and yes, I know, who cares, but... well... it's related to minetest :P) |
06:25 |
akerok |
lol |
06:26 |
MiJyn |
xD |
06:26 |
MiJyn |
anyways, now I think I _really_ got to go |
06:28 |
akerok |
Ttyl. |
06:43 |
OldCoder |
Zzz |
06:48 |
VanessaE |
z. |
06:49 |
* VanessaE |
wanders off to bed. |
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MinetestBot: reload rssnotify |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: <module 'rssnotify' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/rssnotify.py'> (version: 2013-02-24 07:48:27) |
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Oblivion1500 |
anyone here have experience with mysql5? |
08:57 |
sfan5 |
Oblivi |
08:57 |
sfan5 |
Oblivion1500: i have some experience |
08:57 |
sfan5 |
please note the "some" |
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RealBadAngel |
hi all |
09:50 |
MinetestBot |
hi RealBadAngel |
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jin_xi |
sup |
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BackupCoder |
heyzzz |
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MinetestBot |
hi john_minetest |
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akerok |
Hello. |
11:07 |
akerok |
How are you? |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
11:17 |
MinetestBot |
hi PilzAdam |
11:18 |
RealBadAngel |
hi |
11:18 |
MinetestBot |
hi RealBadAngel |
11:19 |
jin_xi |
Hey Adam |
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11:22 |
Jordach |
Calinou, do you know what day it is? |
11:27 |
Calinou |
open a terminal and type date :> |
11:27 |
Jordach |
Calinou, nope. |
11:27 |
Jordach |
Linux upgradin' day. |
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PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, what happens if Lua passes no seed to make_ltree()? |
11:28 |
RealBadAngel |
nothing |
11:29 |
RealBadAngel |
seed is 0 |
11:29 |
PilzAdam |
wouldnt it be better if a random seed gets generated when Lua doesnt provide one? |
11:30 |
RealBadAngel |
no seed means no seed, not a random one |
11:30 |
celeron55 |
a random seed would be much better |
11:30 |
celeron55 |
probably |
11:31 |
RealBadAngel |
add it? |
11:32 |
Calinou |
*random idea appears*, let user input seed when creating world :P |
11:38 |
Jordach |
hey PilzAdam |
11:41 |
* Jordach |
will start installing Xubuntu once file transfers are complete |
11:43 |
PilzAdam |
Kubuntu is better |
11:43 |
PilzAdam |
Xubuntu is for slow PCs |
11:43 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, fancy DE == slow GPU |
11:43 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, i want speed boosts |
11:43 |
Jordach |
rather than slowness |
11:44 |
PilzAdam |
KDE works fine on my GTX 460 |
11:44 |
Jordach |
the less power i require the better |
11:45 |
Jordach |
sfan5, (TF2 later?) |
11:45 |
* Jordach |
will finally sign back into steam |
11:50 |
* FreeFull |
uses dwm. dwm is not something to be used by someone who enjoys the convienience of a standard WM. dwm is nice when you do everything with your keyboard anyway |
11:52 |
* john_minetest |
uses dwm. |
11:52 |
* Jordach |
uses nothing atm |
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12:21 |
Jordach |
how is everyone |
12:22 |
jin_xi |
hm, i'm wonderin if i should merge the tree editor and axiom generator into one thing |
12:22 |
Jordach |
jin_xi, wise idea |
12:25 |
jin_xi |
lol, well i dont think anyone is ever gonna use either... |
12:26 |
celeron55 |
people won't use most things, but nobody can know beforehand what people will use |
12:27 |
Jordach |
eg, ms word and lotus writer |
12:27 |
Jordach |
(one came before, but the other overtook) |
12:30 |
* Jordach |
is considering writing a distro called GlaDOS |
12:33 |
Jordach |
2/3 PC's in this house run xubuntu, (the third is a brand new win 7 tower) |
12:33 |
sfan5 |
!ar enable |
12:33 |
MinetestBot |
AR enabled. |
12:34 |
Jordach |
Action Replay? |
12:34 |
sfan5 |
Automated Response |
12:34 |
Jordach |
aye |
12:34 |
sfan5 |
<Jordach> sfan5, (TF2 later?) |
12:34 |
Jordach |
yes |
12:34 |
sfan5 |
i was playing some xonotic |
12:34 |
sfan5 |
in case you don't know xonotic |
12:34 |
sfan5 |
!g xonotic |
12:34 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: http://www.xonotic.org/ |
12:34 |
Jordach |
sfan5, i usually play [MoN] Vehicle gameplay |
12:34 |
Jordach |
(usually unlimited ammo CTF) |
12:35 |
sfan5 |
i usually play [MoN] Overkill [Mod] |
12:35 |
Jordach |
i play that too, surprised i've not played you yet |
12:35 |
sfan5 |
what about you join #mon.xonotic @ QuakeNet |
12:36 |
* Jordach |
hopes i used sda5 as "/" install point |
12:36 |
Jordach |
(sda2 is the music / movie drive) |
12:36 |
sfan5 |
I used UUID=9308b44e-ed95-4c19-bf54-7c1d5cc080b1 as the install drive :P |
12:36 |
Jordach |
sfan5, later, i have a quakenet nick too |
12:37 |
Jordach |
once im in and happy, i'll game on later |
12:37 |
* Jordach |
is close to the finish of installing |
12:37 |
sfan5 |
well i'm going to play some xonotic right now |
12:38 |
Jordach |
:D |
12:38 |
sfan5 |
hello from my ipod |
12:38 |
sfan5 |
... |
12:38 |
sfan5 |
^ advantage of bouncers |
12:38 |
* Jordach |
pokes Taoki[mobile]'s Samsung Galaxy S3 |
12:39 |
sfan5 |
same nick 2 devices |
12:39 |
Jordach |
final stretch now, downloading packages |
12:46 |
Jordach |
bbiab |
12:50 |
sfan5 |
:D |
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12:54 |
jordach |
there we go |
12:56 |
jordach |
mmhmm, the smell of linux |
12:58 |
sfan5 |
:D |
12:58 |
sfan5 |
\o\ |
12:58 |
jordach |
sfan5, what channel in qn |
12:59 |
sfan5 |
#mon.xonotic |
12:59 |
jordach |
done |
12:59 |
jordach |
not to set LDRoT |
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13:01 |
sfan5 |
wut? |
13:01 |
jordach |
now* |
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jordach |
(irc server) |
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jordach |
i've just realised i've got 30 GBP in google adsense money |
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sapier |
I've just added experimental pathfinding to mobf. Currently it's not doing anything usefull and only finding paths on surface. you may test it by calling |
13:30 |
sapier |
"find_path pos1 pos2 (short)" |
13:30 |
sapier |
if you add "short" it'll find shortest path which will take quite some time so be carefull with this optional parameter |
13:33 |
jordach |
so shortest takes the longest |
13:34 |
jordach |
irony. |
13:35 |
sapier |
always same ;-) |
13:35 |
sapier |
on most situations heuristic is almost as good as shortest |
13:35 |
jordach |
sapier, why not A* with Heuristics? |
13:36 |
sapier |
it is A* ;-) but A* is only a class of algorithms not a fully specified one |
13:36 |
sapier |
and A* is limited to "one surface" movement |
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jordach |
odd bug: 13:36:24: INFO[main]: Lazily creating item texture and mesh for "moreblocks:slab_coalchecker_wall" |
13:45 |
jordach |
this is strange. |
13:45 |
jordach |
minetest from the terminal just dies |
13:46 |
* jordach |
suspects chromium |
13:47 |
* jordach |
has this bug before. |
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jordach |
bbiab, reboot |
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jordach |
you are literally fucking kidding me |
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jordach |
220fps with opengl |
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PilzAdam |
jordach, what have you expected? |
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jordach |
well thats strange |
14:21 |
jordach |
i can only run minetest once before i cant run it again |
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jordach |
(it uses PilzAdam's flatmap) |
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jordach |
oh and: 14:20:52: INFO[main]: Updating configuration file: "/home/jordach/Desktop/minetest-flat/bin/../minetest.conf" |
14:22 |
jordach |
14:20:52: INFO[main]: Skipping writing of /home/jordach/Desktop/minetest-flat/bin/../minetest.conf because content wouldn't be modified |
14:23 |
sapier |
seems perfectly normal? |
14:23 |
jordach |
the program hangs at the main menu |
14:24 |
jordach |
the nvidia driver is usually the source of this bug |
14:25 |
* jordach |
tries recommended |
14:27 |
jordach |
brb |
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webdesigner97 |
hi! |
14:32 |
MinetestBot |
hi webdesigner97 |
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jordach |
sapier, it was the driver |
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sapier |
driver? strange |
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jordach |
and i semise xonotic will be quicker |
14:40 |
troller |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/482 - wants to merge, try on server h4.setun.net:30000 |
14:41 |
jordach |
x-msg much? |
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jordach |
awesome, my server is up! 81.155.108.41 |
14:46 |
thexyz |
!up 81.155.108.41 |
14:46 |
MinetestBot |
81.155.108.41:30000 is up (0.139ms) |
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thexyz |
https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-stress/commit/066d257ad031162cae98597c8075107c22759320 |
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thexyz |
it's already possible to code small mods in it |
14:50 |
thexyz |
(i hope) |
14:51 |
sapier |
what does stress mean? |
14:51 |
thexyz |
http://dev.minetest.net/User:Xyz/stress |
14:51 |
thexyz |
like in "to stress" |
14:51 |
thexyz |
_ |
14:52 |
sapier |
I still don't understand what this intends to do? |
14:52 |
sapier |
is this just another sort of entity more similar to nodes? |
14:53 |
thexyz |
to make modders' lifes easier |
14:53 |
thexyz |
it's like jQuery for javascript |
14:53 |
sapier |
I still don't see what this should do? |
14:54 |
thexyz |
write less, do more |
14:54 |
thexyz |
framework, syntactic sugar |
14:54 |
sapier |
can you please explain WHAT this framework is intended to do not whats api or whats benefit ;-P |
14:54 |
thexyz |
18:53 thexyz: write less, do more |
14:55 |
sapier |
so it's just a new api |
14:55 |
thexyz |
maybe, call it whatever you want |
14:55 |
jordach |
sfan5, your blocker works |
14:55 |
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14:56 |
Kacey |
hiall |
14:56 |
jordach |
hey Kacey |
14:56 |
Kacey |
hahaha |
14:56 |
hmmmm |
you're putting lua coders under a lot of Stress with that |
14:56 |
sapier |
doesn't look more readable to me but I assume that's a personal opinion only |
14:56 |
sfan5 |
jordach: blocker? |
14:56 |
Kacey |
MinetestBot doesnt know what to do |
14:56 |
Kacey |
? |
14:56 |
jordach |
sfan5, your custom .we |
14:56 |
jordach |
(or loader) |
14:56 |
sfan5 |
its a .we loader |
14:58 |
thexyz |
sapier: why? |
14:58 |
jordach |
but its VERY fast |
14:58 |
jordach |
come see |
14:59 |
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14:59 |
thexyz |
https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-stress/blob/master/examples/simple/init.lua#L9 |
14:59 |
sapier |
because _ could mean anything |
14:59 |
sfan5 |
jordach: i know that its fast |
14:59 |
thexyz |
oh |
15:00 |
thexyz |
good to know that's the only flaw |
15:00 |
sapier |
it's nit a speaking name at all it's just a define |
15:00 |
thexyz |
you, of course, can write Stress instead of _ |
15:00 |
jordach |
you havent seen industrial scale usage |
15:00 |
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15:00 |
sapier |
that's just the most obvious one |
15:00 |
thexyz |
any others? |
15:00 |
Kacey |
jordach what happened to Jordach? |
15:00 |
jordach |
Kacey, i just moved to xubuntu |
15:00 |
Kacey |
12.04? |
15:00 |
sapier |
stress doesn't mean anything at all ... you might already have noticed I couldn't link "stress" to any usefull feature |
15:00 |
Kacey |
i use that |
15:00 |
celeron55 |
sapier: have you ever used jquery? |
15:01 |
jordach |
11.10 fyi |
15:01 |
Kacey |
aah |
15:01 |
Kacey |
cool |
15:01 |
sapier |
yes but I didn't like it as it's more database than programming language |
15:01 |
celeron55 |
lol :D |
15:02 |
celeron55 |
i don't think you can be serious |
15:02 |
thexyz |
the name is random but I don't think it's way too bad |
15:02 |
sapier |
I don't say it's bad only it's unreadable in my opinion |
15:02 |
thexyz |
fine |
15:02 |
ShadowNinja |
Kacey: my server is back up if you want to finish what you were doing |
15:02 |
sapier |
I think of benchmarking and test on reading the word "stress" |
15:03 |
Kacey |
i know i am on it right now |
15:03 |
celeron55 |
the name sure is pretty random, but i have no better alternatives |
15:03 |
thexyz |
celeron55: do you like the idea? |
15:03 |
celeron55 |
(so i don't complain) |
15:03 |
celeron55 |
thexyz: dunno, i haven't written enough mod code to form any opinion on such |
15:04 |
Kacey |
my luacontroller keeps breaking... |
15:04 |
celeron55 |
other than that i don't really object it |
15:05 |
celeron55 |
i was surprised anyone came up with that in the first place, it's an interesting idea |
15:05 |
sapier |
reading: >_("default:dirt"):on("place",< I have to evaluate this expression to see what it's actually doing ... while I see at first glance what the long way does ... maybe that changes on using it but I hope you won't drop the current api as it's far more beginer friendly |
15:06 |
jordach |
okay, mt crash |
15:06 |
celeron55 |
sapier: jquery, as well as stress, is about adding a few more conventions in order to lessen verbosity |
15:06 |
celeron55 |
you have to learn the conventions first |
15:06 |
celeron55 |
then you can judge it |
15:07 |
sapier |
no I don't have to learn any arbitrary complex language to tell it doesn't look easy to beginners |
15:07 |
jin_xi |
i have not used jquery and am not used to the style but yes, it looks like it can make mod code a lot shorter. |
15:08 |
sapier |
maybe I'm biased because mobf doesn't use node code very much |
15:08 |
celeron55 |
all i can say is programming browser javascript is much saner with the help of jquery as compared to vanilla interfaces; i guess that can apply to MT too |
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15:09 |
sapier |
ok as browser prorgramming is almost most insane thing I ever tried I assume you're right in this case |
15:11 |
sapier |
by the way I assume my scriptapi.cpp split was work to be trashed ? |
15:13 |
celeron55 |
don't blame me; i'm doing (and have done, and will do) nothing in the repo |
15:13 |
sapier |
that's been a question not a blame ;-) |
15:14 |
hmmmm |
it needs to be manually merged |
15:14 |
sapier |
I assume adding _ will make some changes to scriptapi.cpp so split would need thexyz to merge it to it ... or split to be redone |
15:14 |
thexyz |
hmm? |
15:14 |
thexyz |
how's that related? |
15:15 |
sapier |
didn't you have to change scriptapi.cpp ? |
15:15 |
thexyz |
it's a standalone mod |
15:15 |
thexyz |
nope |
15:15 |
sapier |
ohh ok my fault |
15:15 |
thexyz |
just plain lua |
15:15 |
sapier |
as everyone is here atm split merge is time critical as any further progress in minetest would have to be merged to it |
15:16 |
sapier |
so decision should be done fast in my opinion |
15:16 |
thexyz |
ask in -dev then |
15:17 |
sapier |
I did ;-) no one did answer |
15:17 |
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15:17 |
sapier |
but I'll do again ;-) |
15:17 |
hmmmm |
maybe if we had some way to hold a vote on issues like this |
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15:18 |
sapier |
how to do a vote on pull requests? |
15:18 |
hmmmm |
hmm |
15:18 |
hmmmm |
forum topic..? |
15:18 |
Kray |
>open source project |
15:18 |
Kray |
>democracy |
15:18 |
sapier |
open source != democracy most cases ;-) |
15:18 |
thexyz |
i think only committers should vote |
15:19 |
hmmmm |
well yeah obviously. most non-committers even know what the changes do |
15:19 |
thexyz |
with LGTM or something |
15:19 |
Gambit |
better to have a strong, active release manager |
15:19 |
hmmmm |
don't even know* |
15:20 |
hmmmm |
anyway see how celeron stopped chatting when the issue came up? |
15:20 |
sapier |
I'm with gambit as this ensures some consistent direction |
15:20 |
hmmmm |
it's abundantly clear (to me at least) that we shouldn't bother asking him for confirmation anymore |
15:21 |
thexyz |
then we should have some way to add more people with push access to the repo |
15:22 |
sapier |
someone needs to be "responsible" for what is commited |
15:22 |
thexyz |
that's usually the guy who merged it |
15:22 |
sapier |
having right to deny some changes not driving development in correct direction |
15:22 |
hmmmm |
other open source projects that use github aren't pinned to a single person, they usually have an account for that project |
15:22 |
sapier |
whatever correct means |
15:22 |
thexyz |
well, I registered https://github.com/minetest a while ago |
15:23 |
hmmmm |
and i guess all the 'officers' have access to it |
15:24 |
sapier |
maybe some group of "top 10" commiters to decide what's added |
15:24 |
celeron55 |
judging by "top committers" isn't directly good, because that leads to uselessly large amounts of commits because adding 100 commits gets you 100 voting power |
15:25 |
sapier |
I may have said this missleading "top 10" is of course not enough to decide who should be in there. But that's another discussion I'm currently interested in your personal opinion about the scriptapi.cpp split only? |
15:25 |
celeron55 |
more like "committers in the last three months" |
15:25 |
celeron55 |
no matter how small |
15:25 |
sapier |
with "you" not being celeron only ;-) |
15:27 |
celeron55 |
< Gambit> better to have a strong, active release manager <- this is true, and i have been passively looking for such a person for like a year already; such just seems to be quite inexistent |
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15:28 |
* ShadowNinja |
wants to get "[" and "]" working in formspecs, perhaps with escape characters like \, [ and ] |
15:29 |
jin_xi |
ShadowNinja: i had that problem too |
15:29 |
sapier |
I assume this'd be a minor change for anyone whith advanced c knowledge |
15:30 |
ShadowNinja |
maybe minetest.fromspec_escape(string) |
15:30 |
sapier |
in my opinion this shouldn't be done in lua but directly in c |
15:31 |
jordach |
i've just come across a very hidden bug, and super rare (in happening cases) |
15:31 |
sapier |
what is it? ;-) |
15:31 |
ShadowNinja |
I mean the c should accept escape characters |
15:31 |
jordach |
type /status |
15:31 |
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15:32 |
jordach |
uptime= will eventually hit the top number limit |
15:32 |
thexyz |
won't happen in a lifetime |
15:32 |
sapier |
isn't it a 32bit value? |
15:33 |
Calinou |
what if we go back in time to 1970 and start a MT server there |
15:33 |
Calinou |
we'll reach it in 2038! |
15:33 |
jordach |
thexyz, just because it wont, doesnt mean it will |
15:33 |
thexyz |
lol, no |
15:33 |
thexyz |
Calinou: think floats |
15:33 |
sapier |
shadowninja it's not a problem of c it'll accept [ to but needs to be considered on evaluating the formspec in order to display the form |
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15:34 |
ShadowNinja |
do you know where formspec strings are proccessed? |
15:35 |
sapier |
yes |
15:35 |
ShadowNinja |
ah found it |
15:35 |
sapier |
I think it's not very much to do to make escape sequences work |
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15:36 |
jordach |
morning NekoGloop |
15:36 |
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15:36 |
NekoGloop |
Meow... |
15:36 |
Kacey |
Moo |
15:37 |
jordach |
do ya want good news or the bad news |
15:37 |
NekoGloop |
Tell me both |
15:37 |
jordach |
good news: my pc os got an upgrade. |
15:37 |
jordach |
bad news: its linux |
15:37 |
Kacey |
how is that bad news? |
15:37 |
jordach |
because lost compatibility |
15:37 |
NekoGloop |
How do those two even happen together? |
15:38 |
jin_xi |
so if palautus is return are tek and plop words too (looking at strfnd.h)? |
15:38 |
jordach |
because Windows XP support expiry date |
15:38 |
NekoGloop |
It's not like the support was doing anything anyway... |
15:38 |
* Kacey |
still has an old dell with XP on it |
15:39 |
Calinou |
jordach: distro? |
15:39 |
jordach |
xubuntu |
15:39 |
Calinou |
XP support expires in end 2014 btw |
15:39 |
* Calinou |
highfives jordach |
15:39 |
Calinou |
12.10? |
15:39 |
jordach |
11.10, last disc i had |
15:39 |
Calinou |
it'll be EOL soon :P |
15:39 |
jordach |
(ill upgrade later |
15:39 |
jordach |
) |
15:40 |
jordach |
also: be careful with the nvidia driver |
15:40 |
jordach |
anything other than recommended, minetest will only run once before a reboot is needed |
15:41 |
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15:41 |
jordach |
Gambit, was that a balls up? |
15:42 |
* Calinou |
uses 313.18 driver from xorg-edgers |
15:42 |
Calinou |
everything works fine |
15:42 |
Calinou |
opengl 4.3 support :-D nvidia-current-updates is only at 304.51, opengl 4.2 only |
15:43 |
jordach |
Calinou, 173 here |
15:43 |
* NekoGloop |
puts a kitten on Gambit's head |
15:43 |
* jordach |
checks |
15:43 |
Gambit |
a menu that was over top of the disconnect button closed unexpectedly milliseconds before I tried to click something on the menu :| |
15:43 |
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15:44 |
jordach |
Calinou, version-current apparently |
15:46 |
* jordach |
hands NekoGloop an IP |
15:47 |
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15:47 |
NekoGloop |
Hah, i don't need that. |
15:47 |
* john_minetest |
magnetizes NekoGloop and puts an iron kitten on NekoGloop's head |
15:48 |
LMfails |
ah, too bad LandMine's not here. We'd all have such fun |
15:49 |
Calinou |
jordach: use current-updates :P |
15:49 |
sfan5 |
this is suspicious |
15:49 |
jordach |
Calinou, can only run minetest ONCE with it |
15:49 |
LMfails |
sfan5: hey |
15:49 |
Calinou |
with both? |
15:49 |
LMfails |
why did you connect the other day and just leave? |
15:49 |
jordach |
only current-updates |
15:49 |
Calinou |
oh |
15:49 |
sfan5 |
why not? |
15:50 |
jordach |
Nvidia GeForce 6xxx |
15:50 |
Calinou |
nvidia-current occasionally hangs up everything for me /P |
15:50 |
Calinou |
and the updates one doesn't |
15:50 |
Calinou |
and the xorg-edgers one doesn't too |
15:50 |
Calinou |
to each his own :P |
15:50 |
jordach |
Calinou, annoyingly, 220fps with openGL# |
15:50 |
sfan5 |
nouveau! bah |
15:50 |
sfan5 |
i had to prevent the kernel from running nouveau to even install ubuntu |
15:51 |
sfan5 |
(nouveau kernel module) |
15:51 |
Calinou |
sfan5: that's because you have a nvidia chipset 8D |
15:51 |
sfan5 |
ik |
15:51 |
Calinou |
john_minetest: and your card runs at 2D freqs and no GL 4.3 support? :/ |
15:52 |
Calinou |
nvidia chipsets, the most broken thing after catalyst |
15:52 |
sfan5 |
i have opengl 4.2 |
15:52 |
sfan5 |
i'm currently updating from nvidia-current to nvidia-current-updated |
15:52 |
sfan5 |
*updates |
15:53 |
LMfails |
anyway, so i called up my revolutionary friend |
15:53 |
sfan5 |
DEBUG:Failure to match Packard Bell with Dell Inc. |
15:53 |
LMfails |
and he supplied me with some LandMine coordinates |
15:53 |
sfan5 |
you don't say? |
15:53 |
LMfails |
which means fun will be had |
15:54 |
Kacey |
coords are 78.134.137.202 |
15:54 |
LMfails |
o noes |
15:54 |
LMfails |
wat eva shall i do nao |
15:54 |
sfan5 |
!up 78.134.137.202 |
15:54 |
MinetestBot |
78.134.137.202:30000 seems to be down |
15:55 |
Kacey |
/whois LMfails |
15:55 |
LMfails |
call the internet police, right away |
15:56 |
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15:57 |
Calinou |
20-30FPS here, 570GTX, with nvidia 300+FPS easy |
15:57 |
Calinou |
VRAM has nothing to do with performance today, it's a commercial argument |
15:57 |
Calinou |
my 570 (1280MB) pwns your 630M (2048MB) ;) |
15:59 |
Kacey |
http://ompldr.org/vaGtvNg/screenshot_216866000.png floating sand ^_^ |
15:59 |
sfan5 |
time to restart my computer |
15:59 |
Calinou |
john_minetest: nouveau can only reclock some 9xxx series cards (4 years old) |
15:59 |
sfan5 |
MinetestBot: quit smoking |
16:00 |
Calinou |
only card where it is actually competitive is the 9800GTX, makes so much noise and eats 200 watts easily |
16:00 |
Calinou |
and fermi/kepler reclocking seems to be harder than ever so we're definitely not getting it :> |
16:02 |
Calinou |
mobile + quadro, epic combination :D |
16:04 |
* jordach |
pokes NekoGloop |
16:04 |
* Calinou |
puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head |
16:04 |
jordach |
NekoGloop isnt running iOS 6.1.x |
16:04 |
NekoGloop |
Calinou: I don't want it, talk to MinetestBot, he likes kittens. |
16:04 |
jordach |
"iPhone OS 6.0.1 (ARM)" |
16:05 |
* Kacey |
likes kittens (they taste good) |
16:05 |
sfan5 |
D: |
16:05 |
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16:05 |
LMfails |
sfan5: so why did you stay just a day? |
16:06 |
sfan5 |
i don't know what you mean |
16:06 |
LMfails |
*second |
16:06 |
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16:06 |
LMfails |
sfan5: you joined like two days ago, only to immediately leave |
16:06 |
sfan5 |
yeah |
16:07 |
jordach |
whats sfan5 done this time? |
16:07 |
LMfails |
nothing |
16:07 |
LMfails |
why "this time"? |
16:08 |
LMfails |
anyway, we gon have us some vigilante justice now, yeeehaw |
16:09 |
* john_minetest |
puts a kitten on LMfails' head |
16:09 |
* LMfails |
rips it to shreads |
16:10 |
LMfails |
that's right, imgurian |
16:12 |
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16:16 |
Calinou |
so directx is sad? it's DX. |
16:17 |
Kacey |
thexyz, /kick LMfails or something please |
16:18 |
LMfails |
why? |
16:22 |
LMfails |
Kacey: there was this shepherd boy |
16:22 |
LMfails |
he had a few sheep that he'd take out to pasture |
16:22 |
Kacey |
i know |
16:22 |
LMfails |
and while they grazed, he was bored |
16:22 |
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16:22 |
LMfails |
so he cried "Woolf, woolf!" |
16:23 |
LMfails |
and the villagers ran up the hill |
16:23 |
LMfails |
to his aid. Torches, pitchforks and everything. |
16:23 |
LMfails |
Oh how he LAUGHED and laughed |
16:23 |
LMfails |
Then the other day he god bored again. So he cried "Woolf, Woolf!", and the villagers came to his aid |
16:23 |
LMfails |
but there was no wolf this time either |
16:23 |
LMfails |
and so he laughed, and he laughed |
16:24 |
LMfails |
one day |
16:24 |
LMfails |
the woolf came |
16:24 |
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LMfails was kicked by Calinou: cool story bro |
16:24 |
Calinou |
or, "belle histoire, frère" |
16:24 |
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16:24 |
LMfails |
and he panicked, started calling "Woolf, woolf!". But nobody came |
16:24 |
LMfails |
The end. |
16:25 |
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16:25 |
LMfails |
Calinou: good guy villager. |
16:27 |
artur99 |
whats difference between Moding General and Mod Relases? |
16:27 |
Calinou |
mod releases: "approved" mods by moderators and admins |
16:28 |
Calinou |
modding general: talk about mods here, and unapproved mods are here too |
16:28 |
artur99 |
aha |
16:28 |
artur99 |
where to request adding a mod on server? Or just direct talking? |
16:31 |
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16:33 |
LMfails |
i miss cisoun |
16:33 |
jordach |
can someone mute LMfails? |
16:33 |
jordach |
or justa +q |
16:34 |
LMfails |
jordach: okay... |
16:34 |
Calinou |
artur99: just reply on the server's thread ;) |
16:34 |
LMfails |
jordach: this isn't #minetest-dev, you know? |
16:34 |
jordach |
okay mijyn, we get it |
16:35 |
LMfails |
? |
16:36 |
LMfails |
jordach: who is mijyn, and what is it that you're getting (from where i'm sitting not a lot)? |
16:40 |
VanessaE |
good morning all. |
16:40 |
LMfails |
hey |
16:40 |
MinetestBot |
hi LMfails |
16:41 |
LMfails |
VanessaE: who's darkrose? |
16:41 |
VanessaE |
A modder and a core contributor to the project. |
16:41 |
VanessaE |
and generally a nice person. why? |
16:50 |
MiJyn |
09:35] <jordach> okay mijyn, we get it |
16:50 |
MiJyn |
whtat? |
16:50 |
MiJyn |
*what |
16:50 |
MiJyn |
[09:37] <LMfails> jordach: who is mijyn |
16:50 |
MiJyn |
ME! xD |
16:56 |
LMfails |
VanessaE: didn't see her around for like a year |
16:57 |
LMfails |
awww what happened to LM's tree? |
16:57 |
LMfails |
i guess griefers get griefed |
16:58 |
LMfails |
i sure hope LandMine does something (about his character) for this fire not to spread to the chest |
16:58 |
LMfails |
and then to his beach house |
16:58 |
LMfails |
and i'd hate to see something happen to his glass pyramid |
17:04 |
LMfails |
mybad, it spread to his chest |
17:05 |
LMfails |
tried to stop it |
17:05 |
LMfails |
but that's what happens when you play with fire |
17:06 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: sfan5 commited to celeron55/minetest: Tweak buildbot 035933f806 2013-01-23T10:42:46-08:00 http://git.io/cf8BHA |
17:09 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: PilzAdam commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Fix texture glitch when digging junglegrass 67fa74ac01 2013-01-15T11:30:55-08:00 http://git.io/woE48w |
17:09 |
hmmmm |
oh yeah |
17:09 |
hmmmm |
you're probably going to have to fix MinetestBot after this |
17:10 |
hmmmm |
everybody, it's minetest/minetest anymore, not celeron55/minetest, you need to update your links |
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17:16 |
LMfails |
pics to come |
17:16 |
LMfails |
for everyone's enjoyment |
17:16 |
LMfails |
bye |
17:17 |
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17:17 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: jojoa1997 commited to celeron55/minetest_game: makes wood doors craftable from wood group 86cff038a4 2013-02-12T12:46:03-08:00 http://git.io/hBddDw |
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artur99 |
can i try to make an android app with a Minetest Guide? |
17:18 |
Kacey |
im thinking about pulling a small naming change to minetest_game |
17:18 |
Kacey |
instead of steel, iron |
17:18 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: kwolekr commited to celeron55/minetest: Merge pull request #505 from RealBadAngel/master 9bd76f2972 2013-02-23T18:06:07-08:00 http://git.io/Dbfi-Q |
17:18 |
VanessaE |
no, steel |
17:18 |
VanessaE |
you change it to iron and it breaks a LOT of recipes |
17:19 |
Kacey |
iron lumps make iron ingots which can be re-cooked to get steel |
17:19 |
VanessaE |
that moght work. |
17:19 |
VanessaE |
might* |
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artur99 |
Kacey, were u talking to me? |
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Kacey |
no |
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Kacey |
anyone |
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sfan5 |
MinetestBot: reload rssnotify |
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sfan5: <module 'rssnotify' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/rssnotify.py'> (version: 2013-02-24 17:33:30) |
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sfan5 |
hmmmm: links in minetestbot updatex |
17:33 |
sfan5 |
*updated |
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rubenwardy |
hi all |
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hi rubenwardy |
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jordach |
PilzAdam, can i have a word? |
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PilzAdam |
hm? |
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jordach |
to -mods |
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Kacey |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=wLgCew5m6KM wish rba made the computer mod already |
17:55 |
rubenwardy |
is it me, or is there a lot of newbie spam on the forum? |
17:55 |
jordach |
yup |
17:56 |
jordach |
not to mention the forums app is just a web browser without the buttons |
17:56 |
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GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Update buildbot 92c7bd02fb 2013-02-24T09:52:44-08:00 http://git.io/jTTErw |
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jordach |
(i've made them before.) |
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RealBadAngel |
http://i.imgur.com/uFuwRlV.png whats wrong with this picture? ;) |
18:01 |
* Calinou |
remembers the font from another game |
18:02 |
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GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest_game: Update README 230747c748 2013-02-24T10:01:10-08:00 http://git.io/anCLdg |
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GIT: Jeija commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Bugfix: Also deactivate the block two below when digging a pressure plate 2848df007e 2013-02-24T10:03:28-08:00 http://git.io/wWty8w |
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jordach |
why/ |
18:09 |
Kacey |
rba: am/ pm? |
18:10 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: why'd you break the light on the lever? |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Jeija commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Don't totally force deactivation of block two below the pressure plate if connected to a receptor e707afef1a 2013-02-24T10:09:07-08:00 http://git.io/xvAO-Q |
18:10 |
jin_xi |
its upside down, duh |
18:11 |
VanessaE |
oh that's just wrong |
18:11 |
VanessaE |
I completely forgot about the full rotation thing |
18:11 |
RealBadAngel |
indeed, its rotated nodebox :) |
18:11 |
VanessaE |
well obviously you got texture rotation working along that axis |
18:12 |
RealBadAngel |
im still fighting with it, it i was allowed to use ^transform with nodeboxes it would be already finished |
18:13 |
Kacey |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=wLgCew5m6KM rba |
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jin_xi |
RealBadAngel: i think i'll merge treegen editor and axiom generator thing using your multitool. but what kind of tool could that be? |
18:28 |
RealBadAngel |
idk |
18:29 |
jin_xi |
treegun? |
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sfan5 |
yes |
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Vadtec2 |
hi all |
18:54 |
MinetestBot |
hi Vadtec2 |
18:54 |
Vadtec2 |
:P |
18:54 |
Vadtec2 |
silly MinetestBot |
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Vadtec2 |
anyone active? |
18:55 |
Vadtec2 |
well, anyone who codes LUA |
18:55 |
jin_xi |
its lua |
18:56 |
jin_xi |
hi Vadtec2 |
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Vadtec2 |
im wanting to add a command to worldedit that allows me to simply provide a way to set the pos1/2 by giving x,y,z |
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Vadtec2 |
but im not sure if its even possible |
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jin_xi |
i think it should be doable |
19:01 |
ShadowNinja |
Vadtec2 quite doable, do you want //pos1 x,y,z ? |
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Vadtec2 |
ShadowNinja, basically, yes |
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Vadtec2 |
im just not sure how to create the pos object |
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Kacey |
ShadowNinja, i had an awesome idea pn your server |
19:03 |
Kacey |
on* |
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Kacey |
hi sapier1 |
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ShadowNinja |
what was it? |
19:05 |
Kacey |
a sorting machine |
19:05 |
Kacey |
come see |
19:10 |
Vadtec2 |
ShadowNinja, so any info? |
19:11 |
ShadowNinja |
yes, just finished, testing |
19:12 |
Vadtec2 |
ShadowNinja, ah, if you point me in the right direction i can do the rest |
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jfu |
hi guys, just found out about this project. |
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sfan5 |
hello |
19:16 |
MinetestBot |
hi sfan5 |
19:16 |
sfan5 |
-.- |
19:16 |
jfu |
ive never played minecraft before but wanted to try out minetest to get a feel what it was all about |
19:16 |
jfu |
any server to recommend joining? |
19:17 |
Kacey |
menche.servegame.com |
19:17 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Update Copyright Years 6d0ea26c2d 2013-02-24T11:15:24-08:00 http://git.io/nCSDrQ |
19:17 |
sfan5 |
no,no |
19:17 |
sfan5 |
where can i find a minetest server? |
19:17 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: http://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?id=10 and http://servers.minetest.ru |
19:17 |
sfan5 |
^ jfu |
19:18 |
jfu |
yeah but i want to see things people have built and stuff. a server list doesnt tell me much about the actual content |
19:18 |
Kacey |
try them all |
19:18 |
jfu |
Kacey: ill try the one you said to begin with =) |
19:18 |
sfan5 |
john_minetest: ik |
19:19 |
jfu |
i just need to compile it first, im building from git at the moment |
19:19 |
Kacey |
ok |
19:21 |
RealBadAngel |
very funny stuff in nodeboxes: i put there counter to see how many times with one nodebox my code to rotate texture is called |
19:21 |
jfu |
there done, im waiting for it to load. the media seem to take a while =) |
19:21 |
Vadtec2 |
ShadowNinja, ping me when yer done |
19:22 |
RealBadAngel |
for one nodebox, where certain rotation shall be used 6 times exactly, code is exececuted, 30, 11, 6, 1 or any other random numebr |
19:22 |
ShadowNinja |
Vadtec: replace WorldEdit_commands/init.lua with this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5562580/ |
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jfu |
really a game like minecraft is the perfect example of a game that could work as a open source projects so great initiative |
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sfan5 |
yeah |
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Vadtec2 |
ShadowNinja, thanks |
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jfu |
ah there we go, now ill go play |
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ShadowNinja |
sfan5: can you add servers.minetest.net to the list that the bot returns? |
19:26 |
sfan5 |
yes |
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Vadtec2 |
ShadowNinja, see, now i know how to make the necessary objects :P thanks |
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GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Update Copyright Years 6d0ea26c2d 2013-02-24T11:15:24-08:00 http://git.io/nCSDrQ |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest_game: Update README 230747c748 2013-02-24T10:01:10-08:00 http://git.io/anCLdg |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: sfan5 commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Fix styling issues in Chat Commands.md 34c4475d06 2013-02-23T00:35:16-08:00 http://git.io/kVkDgw |
19:33 |
ShadowNinja |
you're welcome |
19:34 |
sfan5 |
could someone please write !test |
19:34 |
ShadowNinja |
!test |
19:34 |
jin_xi |
ShadowNinja: did you find a fix for [ and ] in formspecs? |
19:34 |
ShadowNinja |
no |
19:34 |
ShadowNinja |
it will not be \[ tho |
19:34 |
sfan5 |
could someone please write !server |
19:35 |
jin_xi |
!server |
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sfan5 |
minetestbot seems to have crashed |
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sfan5 |
jin_xi: now again please |
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ShadowNinja |
!server |
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jordach |
!server |
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MinetestBot |
jordach: Dwarves' Kingdom | 95.84.168.231:30000 up (83.997%) |
19:36 |
MinetestBot |
ShadowNinja: [0.4.3] LAD's creative server 24/7 | minetest.org:30006 up (98.438%) |
19:36 |
sfan5 |
thank you |
19:36 |
jordach |
so i get first dibs over everyone else, awesome |
19:36 |
sfan5 |
MinetestBot: quit eating rainbows |
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jfu |
Kacey: thx for the help. that was cool |
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jfu |
the client was really quick to render, even though im on linux |
19:46 |
Vadtec2 |
is there a way to convert mesecons power to technic power? |
19:46 |
jfu |
who is the developer behind this? |
19:46 |
PilzAdam |
Vadtec2, the problem is that mesecon signals are infinte |
19:46 |
PilzAdam |
and technic mod has real power |
19:47 |
PilzAdam |
jfu, mesecons is developed by Jeija, technic by RealBadAngel |
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Vadtec2 |
PilzAdam, infinite? i just ran a length of it and it only went like 32 blocks before it stopped transmitting |
19:47 |
sfan5 |
My Minetest built-in video recorder works again \o/ |
19:48 |
jfu |
mesecons? technic? |
19:48 |
PilzAdam |
Vadtec2, you just have to place a torch to get a signal in mesecons |
19:48 |
RealBadAngel |
mesecons signals are just TTL (logic signals) |
19:48 |
PilzAdam |
but in technic you need water turbines, solar panels etc. |
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sapier1 |
has anyone recently noticed a 3d terrain isn't very pathfinding friendly? |
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jfu |
sapier1: what algorithm are you using? |
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sapier1 |
A* but doesn't work for multiple layers |
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sapier |
I try to find a way to create multi-layer cost maps but atm I didn't find a good way |
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* sfan5 |
is going to restart his computer |
19:52 |
Vadtec2 |
PilzAdam, you sure mesecon is infinite? i seriously have 1 watergen hooked up, and its most certainly not infinite |
19:52 |
sapier |
the only idea atm is create multiple weight maps for each height level within check range |
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sfan5 |
MinetestBot: quit eating my cake |
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jfu |
sapier: i would assume you just give larger cost for up/down movement compared to sideways and A* should fix the rest for you.... |
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sapier |
no doesn't as A* assumes a flat map |
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sapier |
it doesn't work for bridges |
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sapier |
unless ... hmm |
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jfu |
i think A* can be used for 3D too. i read that a while back. it is just i graph with weights so for each point you need to calculate the cost. up/down would be larger, same as for going through water |
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* ShadowNinja |
has to reompile everything because a comment was changed |
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jfu |
when i said point i ment node |
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sapier |
I know I do it exactly this way ... but i prepare a weight map before calculation to avoid having to fetch all data from core on each step ... which is plain slow ... without this preparation it might work ... still I'd have no way to check quality of result |
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* ShadowNinja |
has been spoiled by lua |
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Kacey |
ShadowNinja, i found banana trees on my recent adventure |
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Kacey |
i planted them ^_^ |
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PilzAdam |
bye |
20:09 |
sfan5 |
if i use ffmpeg to record minetest with my 1st (weak) video card, it runs out of video mem and minetest doesn't display blocks |
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sfan5 |
using minemovie i can record a smooth video of minetest with my 1st video card |
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sfan5 |
like this: http://ompldr.org/vaGtzYQ/movie.mp4 |
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sfan5 |
note: some quality is lost, because i converted the file so i can upload it |
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Kacey |
i cant see it... |
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sfan5 |
what? |
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Kacey |
i cannot view the movie... |
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sfan5 |
you don't have a browser plugin that supports mp4 ? |
20:13 |
sfan5 |
try vlc |
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Kacey |
i use chromium |
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sfan5 |
Kacey: download the file and view it in vlc |
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Kacey |
where is the dl link? |
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sfan5 |
http://ompldr.org/iaGtzYQ |
20:17 |
sfan5 |
right click "movie.mp4" select save link as.. |
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MinetestBot |
john_minetest: http://www.minetest.net/download.php Please note that it is recommend to compile Minetest yourself if you use GNU/Linux |
20:18 |
Kacey |
You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins |
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sfan5 |
hm |
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sfan5 |
john_minetest: https://github.com/sfan5/minetest/tree/minemovie |
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sfan5 |
john_minetest: it only creates png's you need http://www.randelshofer.ch/monte/files/demos/MovieMaker.jar to convert them to a video file |
20:19 |
Kacey |
using Parole media player |
20:19 |
ShadowNinja |
ok, now [ and ] are working in formspecs, at least partialy |
20:20 |
sfan5 |
it doesn't record audio yet |
20:21 |
sfan5 |
also if your ram gets full and you don't press f8 minetest crashes and you lost everything |
20:21 |
sfan5 |
i should add an fps limit |
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sfan5 |
less fps -> ram gets full slower |
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sfan5 |
i can record a 1000 frame movie with 4gb ram fine |
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sfan5 |
resulting video file of 1000 frames -> ~ 450 mb O.O |
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sfan5 |
thats something |
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* sfan5 |
just recorded 1700 frames and crashed the window manager |
20:30 |
sfan5 |
lets try that again |
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sfan5 |
i recorded 1534 frames and forgot about the fact that rendering the images also needs ram |
20:33 |
sfan5 |
lets try that again |
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mauvebic |
vanessa you might find my bridge looks like an apple store (barf) though the engineering is true to form :p |
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sfan5 |
rendering 1172 frames succeded \o/ |
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VanessaE |
mauvebic: what bridge? |
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mauvebic |
enterprises' |
20:41 |
VanessaE |
OH on the ships |
20:42 |
VanessaE |
well it's fine as long as it's on the 1701-prime :-) |
20:42 |
ShadowNinja |
[ and ] are escaped in formspecs with &( and &) now |
20:42 |
VanessaE |
you put that on the original 1701 and you're gonna have to answer for your crimes to the whole of the Star Trek fanbase ;) |
20:42 |
mauvebic |
the D actually lol i made it look less "loungy" |
20:42 |
VanessaE |
heh |
20:43 |
VanessaE |
I wonder what the -D would look like if the timeline of Star Trek 2009 were extended into TNG's time period |
20:43 |
mauvebic |
besides practically everything on the real bridge is diagonally inclined (terminals, furniture, etc. lol) |
20:43 |
mauvebic |
well with the alternate time line thing they can pick up any of the series and do them better/different |
20:43 |
VanessaE |
nu so lets see some screenshots alreasdy |
20:44 |
mauvebic |
6 here : http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=72509#p72509 |
20:44 |
VanessaE |
already there |
20:45 |
VanessaE |
just grabbed all the forum threads as usual |
20:45 |
mauvebic |
now that ive' laid the conduits, i gotta get pipeworks to power stuff lol |
20:45 |
VanessaE |
the "retconned bridge" looks more like Engineering without the 'pool table' |
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mauvebic |
wasnt much i could do with the clearance i got on deck 1 lol |
20:46 |
VanessaE |
I mean the width |
20:46 |
VanessaE |
it looks like a hallway :-) |
20:46 |
mauvebic |
the room is quite round but with the incline of the outer hull, it doesn't look it from the inside lol |
20:46 |
VanessaE |
I don't recall the -D having a hallway behind the bridge :) |
20:46 |
jordach |
there we go, i found a way to make unlimited water sources indefinitely expand |
20:47 |
jordach |
*THIS ALSO GOES FOR LAVA* |
20:47 |
VanessaE |
nice job on the warp drive though |
20:47 |
mauvebic |
actually they never showed the whole of deck 1, seemed like the turbolifts kept changing doors every season lol |
20:47 |
VanessaE |
haha |
20:48 |
mauvebic |
i think even the battle bridge changed decks a few times lol so were taking some creative license here |
20:48 |
VanessaE |
yeah it did actually |
20:48 |
VanessaE |
deck 7 once, 13 another time I think |
20:49 |
mauvebic |
i definately need to do flow booster otherwise the ship will need 4 cores evenly spread out lol |
20:49 |
Kacey |
i want to see and help if i can |
20:50 |
mauvebic |
meh, i dont open up my servers, FPS is low enough without having to protect against griefers and forget to do backups lol |
20:51 |
VanessaE |
you should at least share .we/.wem files of your models/blueprints |
20:51 |
* jordach |
installs emacs |
20:51 |
mauvebic |
im thinking of either posting maps or blueprints for some of the nicer converts |
20:52 |
OldCoder |
I am taking my laptop for repair but I will return later |
20:52 |
mauvebic |
as for .wep i asked for samples a few times and got nothing so someone else can write the blueprint /wep converter :p |
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mauvebic |
i could prolly release cbp's and and a standalone cpp spawner |
20:54 |
Kacey |
can you upload the map? |
20:54 |
mauvebic |
my main map? |
20:54 |
VanessaE |
yeahm why not? |
20:54 |
VanessaE |
just upload it to somewhere and let people download and play in it |
20:54 |
VanessaE |
no griefing that way |
20:54 |
mauvebic |
jesus |
20:54 |
mauvebic |
564mb |
20:55 |
mauvebic |
wonder how much that would be in zip lol |
20:55 |
ShadowNinja |
formspecs arn't corrupted by [ or ] now |
20:58 |
mauvebic |
zipped its 241 lol not so bad |
20:59 |
mauvebic |
any reports of dblocks from ompldr today? lol |
21:01 |
sfan5 |
mauvebic, VanessaE: i'm working on a binary format for worldedit schematic (without metadata) |
21:01 |
sfan5 |
and now i'm going to bed |
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mauvebic |
no metas and no facedirs presumably? |
21:04 |
mauvebic |
though having worked with binary formats i can tells ya: it saves spaces, but not time |
21:05 |
mauvebic |
the main deal w/ large blueprints is the time it takes to add all the nodes |
21:05 |
mauvebic |
and the format doesn't really matter so long as you dont load the *whole* thing to memory |
21:05 |
sapier |
size is more relevant for resources transfered from server to client, e.g. models |
21:06 |
ShadowNinja |
help on how I could improve this: https://github.com/ShadowNinja/minetest/compare/brackets_in_formspecs |
21:08 |
mauvebic |
and weather its readable blueprints or binary ones the trick is to break up spawning into chunks (roughly a million nodes each is best) |
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mauvebic |
mind you its next to near impossible to save multimillion-node blueprints ingame |
21:16 |
mauvebic |
better off using the mapper for that |
21:22 |
Kacey |
ShadowNinja, is carts installed on your server? |
21:27 |
ShadowNinja |
Kacey: no, and bbl |
21:30 |
Deivan |
Someone please splain to me how the "chance" option work in the minetest.register_abm function... |
21:31 |
Deivan |
I put decimal values, I but big values, don't is working to me... :-/ |
21:31 |
Deivan |
Is a 1/n chance, correct? |
21:32 |
VanessaE |
it is indeed 1/n |
21:32 |
Kacey |
yes |
21:32 |
VanessaE |
so lower numbers give a better chance of something happening |
21:32 |
VanessaE |
interval is a measure of real-world seconds |
21:33 |
Deivan |
Ok, then if I put 500 is the chance of 1 to 500 but the event is more like 100%... -.- |
21:34 |
VanessaE |
1 in 500 chance every time the ABM executes. |
21:34 |
Deivan |
Using one interval of 5 I have a event in less than 30 seconds... -.- |
21:34 |
Deivan |
With the value 500... |
21:34 |
Deivan |
:-/ |
21:34 |
Deivan |
How value I use to make a rare thing? |
21:34 |
Deivan |
1.000.000 ? |
21:35 |
VanessaE |
probably an interval of around 10, chance of 10,000 |
21:35 |
VanessaE |
that's what I'd call rare anyway |
21:35 |
Deivan |
Ok. :D |
21:35 |
Deivan |
Another question, in the game API have a random generator? |
21:36 |
Deivan |
Maybe I test myself the chances... |
21:36 |
VanessaE |
yes https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1283 |
21:36 |
Deivan |
Thanks. |
21:36 |
Deivan |
:) |
21:37 |
VanessaE |
. |
21:38 |
VanessaE |
oops |
21:41 |
Vadtec2 |
hrm... pilzadam said mesecons signals are infinite...but in what im using they arent |
21:41 |
VanessaE |
they are, but the game has a limit to how far it'll send a mesecons signal, because it limits how much of the map is "active" at any one time |
21:42 |
VanessaE |
I think the default is 3 mapblocks from the player |
21:42 |
Vadtec2 |
but its within viewing distance |
21:42 |
VanessaE |
doesn't matter |
21:42 |
VanessaE |
viewing distance by default is like 15 mapblocks or something |
21:43 |
Kacey |
bbiab |
21:43 |
Vadtec2 |
so is there a repeater that will make it extend further? |
21:43 |
Vadtec2 |
or will i have to drop more powerplants around |
21:43 |
VanessaE |
it's not mesecons that's the issue |
21:44 |
VanessaE |
you just have to increase your active block range |
21:44 |
Vadtec2 |
how do i do that? edit some code? |
21:44 |
VanessaE |
naw, it's a config option |
21:44 |
VanessaE |
I forget what it is offhand though |
21:44 |
ShadowNinja |
active_block_range = 2 |
21:44 |
VanessaE |
check minetest.conf.exam....that's the one |
21:45 |
Deivan |
Maybe this make your game little heavy... :D |
21:45 |
Vadtec2 |
so what distance is asinine for MT? cause i wanna set it to 255 or more :P |
21:45 |
VanessaE |
255 would be insane :-) |
21:45 |
VanessaE |
try setting it for 10 and hope your computer doesn't melt :D |
21:45 |
ShadowNinja |
can someone look at this and offer sugestions please https://github.com/ShadowNinja/minetest/compare/brackets_in_formspecs |
21:46 |
ShadowNinja |
lol |
21:46 |
Vadtec2 |
my pc wont melt, though mt might |
21:46 |
VanessaE |
the higher you set it, the more CPU power you'll need to compensate :) |
21:46 |
Vadtec2 |
i have a liquid cooled CPU and ram block |
21:46 |
ShadowNinja |
(255*16)^3 hmmm |
21:46 |
Vadtec2 |
im fine :P |
21:47 |
Vadtec2 |
plus i have dual 120mm fans on the case |
21:47 |
Vadtec2 |
it gets quite noisy at times |
21:47 |
Vadtec2 |
but its worth it |
21:47 |
VanessaE |
well so your CPU will stay cool, but if all you've got under all that equipment is an anemic little Athlon........;) |
21:59 |
Vadtec2 |
its a phenom x6 @ 3.2ghz |
21:59 |
Vadtec2 |
it will survive |
22:00 |
VanessaE |
ok :) |
22:01 |
Kacey |
back |
22:01 |
MinetestBot |
Welcome back Kacey! |
22:09 |
Kacey |
anyone on? |
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22:41 |
MiJyn |
Kacey, I think we're all dead |
22:41 |
MiJyn |
except for me |
22:42 |
MiJyn |
I'm the only survivor of IRC silence |
22:42 |
MiJyn |
I'm dying though |
22:42 |
* Menche |
dies |
22:42 |
Menche |
*crickets* |
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LMfails |
http://imgur.com/a/ilWJc |
22:44 |
MiJyn |
Menche, sad music playing |
22:44 |
MiJyn |
you know why #ubuntu has 3 floodbots, right? |
22:44 |
MiJyn |
just in case anyone goes silent, it can't afford to let all those people die |
22:44 |
MiJyn |
so yeah |
22:45 |
LMfails |
those tops are gone now too in case you're wondering |
22:45 |
LMfails |
pretty nasty looking area now |
22:45 |
LMfails |
cya |
22:46 |
Menche |
someone countertrolling landmine? |
22:48 |
Kacey |
idk |
22:49 |
STHGOM |
bye |
23:11 |
VanessaE |
zzz |
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23:14 |
NekoGloop|Laptop |
w00t laptop |
23:14 |
NekoGloop|Laptop |
:3 |
23:15 |
MiJyn |
haha |
23:17 |
NekoGloop|Laptop |
I have to get used to having a mousepad |
23:17 |
VanessaE |
no more ipad? :) |
23:17 |
jin_xi |
hey all, http://ompldr.org/vaGt1cg/treegen.zip this is treegen editor and axiom generator rolled into one multitool |
23:17 |
jin_xi |
needs idea for texture |
23:17 |
NekoGloop|Laptop |
Still have the ipad. Just have a laptop as well |
23:18 |
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23:19 |
NekoGloop|Laptop |
And thus begins "The thousand ways to hate Windows 8" |
23:19 |
VanessaE |
heh |
23:19 |
VanessaE |
install Xubuntu and life will be good :-) |
23:19 |
VanessaE |
all will be right with the world |
23:20 |
Kacey |
lol windows 8 sux |
23:20 |
NekoGloop|Laptop |
actually it's just the start menu; and that'll just take some getting used to. |
23:20 |
Menche |
windows 8 doesn't have windows |
23:20 |
Menche |
it's wm is all fullscreen |
23:20 |
NekoGloop|Laptop |
So please excuse me if I turn my laptop off by accident. |
23:20 |
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23:23 |
NekoGloop|Laptop |
So what's everyone up to? |
23:23 |
VanessaE |
nuthin' |
23:23 |
Kacey |
watching youtube |
23:23 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop|Laptop: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4904 |
23:23 |
VanessaE |
already supported by HDX :) |
23:25 |
MuLiSz |
is there a depth limit in Minetest? (sry for my english) |
23:25 |
paxcoder |
does JChuckZ come around? |
23:25 |
Menche |
-30912 |
23:25 |
VanessaE |
-30927 or some such |
23:25 |
MuLiSz |
O.o |
23:25 |
MinetestBot |
MuLiSz: What are you wondering about? |
23:25 |
VanessaE |
(routinely, we just say +/- "31000") |
23:26 |
MuLiSz |
Nothing... I'm just digging |
23:26 |
VanessaE |
sfan5|OFF: aw come on, o.O does NOT mean wonder - it means confusion...please shut that damn thing up |
23:26 |
Menche |
lol |
23:26 |
MuLiSz |
btw thanks |
23:27 |
paxcoder |
-_~ <- wonder |
23:28 |
paxcoder |
i -_~ where JChuckZ is |
23:28 |
paxcoder |
my cursor just transformed into a pillar. seriously o.O |
23:29 |
MuLiSz |
O.o |
23:29 |
MinetestBot |
MuLiSz: What are you wondering about? |
23:29 |
* Menche |
hugs MinetestBot |
23:29 |
MinetestBot |
Menche: :D |
23:29 |
paxcoder |
MuLiSz, i'd prtscr, but on the scrsht it looks normal. *shrugs* |
23:29 |
paxcoder |
i can click with the top of the pillar |
23:29 |
paxcoder |
normal again |
23:30 |
NekoGloop|Laptop |
paxcoder: new to text input? |
23:30 |
paxcoder |
XD |
23:30 |
paxcoder |
good one, i have to give you that one |
23:31 |
paxcoder |
but seriously it was 4 cursors high, and i don't mean the bar. It was like a column of little pointers |
23:31 |
paxcoder |
about 16 in all |
23:31 |
NekoGloop|Laptop |
You cannot grasp the true form of cursor's attack! |
23:32 |
NekoGloop|Laptop |
Sadly this little 15lbs laptop IS BETTER THAN MY PC. |
23:32 |
NekoGloop|Laptop |
THE HELL IS THIS SHIT. >.< |
23:32 |
VanessaE |
but can it handle HDX? ;) |
23:32 |
NekoGloop|Laptop |
It can prolly handle HDX 128x |
23:33 |
NekoGloop|Laptop |
The ultimate stress test shall come with MC. |
23:34 |
NekoGloop|Laptop |
Because I'm an idiot, do 32-bit programs run on 64-bit systems? |
23:34 |
Menche |
if the right libraries are installed, yes |
23:36 |
VanessaE |
ouch! 512px has grown enough that I can't use it at all anymore - not enough RAM! |
23:36 |
VanessaE |
(and I have 4 GB) |
23:36 |
NekoGloop|Laptop |
I think I have 4 GB ram as well... Not sure. |
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23:38 |
Kacey |
1gb here :( |
23:38 |
NekoGloop|Laptop |
That's better, hexchat. |
23:41 |
Menche |
trying to run minecraft on my netbook |
23:41 |
Menche |
the start screen has low fps |
23:45 |
Menche |
sloooow |
23:46 |
Kacey |
lol |
23:46 |
Menche |
my netbook can barely run the menu |
23:46 |
* Menche |
closes minecraft and opens minetest |
23:47 |
Kacey |
lol |
23:47 |
Kacey |
i have the same netbook :P |
23:47 |
Menche |
full FPS with almost full grahics settings, vs. low FPS on the main menu. hmm... |
23:48 |
Menche |
which to play.. |
23:48 |
FreeFull |
=P |
23:48 |
FreeFull |
Because minecraft is java shit |
23:49 |
Menche |
minecraft.net's servers are "working a bit too hard, please check back later" |
23:50 |
NekoGloop|Laptop |
That reminds me, I need to set up my favorites in Chrome. |
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* VanessaE |
wonders why hardly anyone plays on her server anymore :( |
23:53 |
NekoGloop|Laptop |
I'd play on it, but I'd have to a) download minetest and b) not have shit to do. |
23:54 |
VanessaE |
well (a) is easy enough to solve. (b), well..that's up to you |
23:55 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
23:55 |
MinetestBot |
hi OldCoder |
23:55 |
OldCoder |
It is nice to hear from you Mr. Bot |
23:55 |
VanessaE |
wb OldCoder |
23:55 |
NekoGloop|Laptop |
Hey, my laptop has the same screen resolution as my PC's monitor. |
23:56 |
OldCoder |
ty VanessaE |