Time Nick Message 00:00 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to celeron55/minetest: Merge pull request #503 from RealBadAngel/master 6b9906687b 2013-02-23T15:58:00-08:00 http://git.io/ADXp1g 00:02 Kacey Menche, PING 00:03 Menche pingity ping 00:03 Menche ? 00:03 Kacey why aren't you installing technic? 00:05 NekoGloop pongity pon 00:05 NekoGloop pong* 00:09 NekoGloop Bug: I can kill myself by climbing. 00:09 NekoGloop Fix it dammit, you're making climbing useless. 00:09 Menche climbing downward with fast move? 00:10 NekoGloop ... That's just fucking stupid. 00:11 Menche IMO the movement stuff and fast_move shouldn't apply to climbing 00:11 ShadowNinja kacey: technic lags, that is why I just removed it from my server 00:12 ShadowNinja and by lag I mean cpu lag 00:12 Kacey my server doesnt lag worse than it did without technic 00:17 NekoGloop Anyone got a good cloud-y texture? 00:18 VanessaE cloudy? 00:18 VanessaE o.O 00:18 MinetestBot VanessaE: What are you wondering about? 00:18 NekoGloop Yes, a cloud texture :) 00:18 jordan4ibanez Where do you get that image that shows if an ip adress is reachable? 00:18 VanessaE er.. 00:19 jordan4ibanez Like sfan5's server 00:20 VanessaE I am wondering if I should don my steel boots and kick that bot squarely in the ass 00:20 Menche does !up work? 00:20 jordan4ibanez !up 00:20 MinetestBot jordan4ibanez: Give me a Server Address 00:20 jordan4ibanez !up google.com 00:20 MinetestBot google.com:30000 seems to be down 00:20 jordan4ibanez OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 00:21 Menche !up menche.servegame.com 30005 00:21 MinetestBot menche.servegame.com:30005 is up (0.477ms) 00:21 Menche !up menche.servegame.com 30000 00:21 MinetestBot menche.servegame.com:30000 is up (0.321ms) 00:21 jordan4ibanez Now sfan5 actually did that with a sticker 00:21 jordan4ibanez or an image on his forum psot 00:21 jordan4ibanez post* 00:23 jordan4ibanez I have an idea 00:24 Kacey player "pig" is now banned 00:24 jordan4ibanez What is a good protection plugin? 00:24 jordan4ibanez Why is pig banned? 00:25 Kacey griefing (he isnt banned i rolled him back too far 00:26 Kacey we need 2 glow glass Menche and we cannot craft it 00:29 NekoGloop VanessaE: So can you make me a cloud texture pwease? :) 00:30 VanessaE no 00:30 NekoGloop why not :( 00:32 VanessaE burned out for now 00:46 khonkhortisan vi doc/init.lua - wait, what? 00:50 jordan4ibanez I need some help with www html stuff 00:51 jordan4ibanez thexyz are you there 00:57 Kacey !up menche.servegame.com 30005 00:57 MinetestBot menche.servegame.com:30005 is up (1.503ms) 00:57 Menche that's jordan's server 00:58 Kacey aah 00:58 Menche i'm just relaying the connection 00:58 Kacey can i have one? 00:58 Menche he's hosting the server himself; i'm forwarding the port for him 00:59 Kacey ? 00:59 Menche we're on a vpn 00:59 Kacey aah 01:01 jordan4ibanez Lol I'm going through the whole process of creating an entire apache server JUST TO HOST A PICTURE 01:02 khonkhortisan I read "aah" more like Aah! than ahh... or ah/oh. 01:02 khonkhortisan Well you should've started the server earlier 01:02 khonkhortisan I can just put the picture up 01:03 Menche what you hosting the picture for? 01:03 khonkhortisan A search for temporary image hosting will satisfy most needs 01:03 jordan4ibanez To show if my server is up :3 01:04 khonkhortisan with a crontab? 01:04 jordan4ibanez what is a crontab? 01:04 Menche for sceduling tasks 01:04 khonkhortisan A unix system of running a command on schedule 01:04 Menche i use it for my backups and map updates 01:05 jordan4ibanez I just clone the virtual servers 01:05 khonkhortisan I could use it but don't ☺ 01:06 Menche i could try to hava an image based on whether a ping goes through to your server 01:06 Menche don't know how to test if the minetestserver is actually running though 01:07 khonkhortisan output.png = (ping server) ? on.png : off.png 01:07 jordan4ibanez We could make a mod :D 01:07 khonkhortisan out = ping and on or off 01:07 jordan4ibanez Try http://menche.servegame.com:30005/test.html 01:07 jordan4ibanez It wants to load, but can't :P 01:07 khonkhortisan that's worse than an error 01:08 khonkhortisan uh, why are you hosting it on a minetest port? 01:09 Menche don't think you can have a webserver and minetestserver on the same port... 01:09 jordan4ibanez Oopsies 01:09 khonkhortisan Even if you skip that port for minetest, it's an unusual port for html 01:09 Menche usually 80 01:09 khonkhortisan 8080 if that doesn't work 01:10 * khonkhortisan feels like a swimming athlete 01:10 Kacey y? 01:10 khonkhortisan minetest+swimming+fast+recent physics change 01:10 khonkhortisan I can swim so fast I hurt myself 01:10 Kacey lol 01:10 Menche jumping 10 meters out of the water? 01:11 khonkhortisan diving into the bottom of the ocean 01:11 Menche killing yourself by swimming downwards too fast? 01:11 khonkhortisan yeah 01:11 khonkhortisan but not up or sideways 01:11 Menche making server status images 01:11 khonkhortisan I can also waterjump 01:12 khonkhortisan skipping across the surface 01:13 NekoGloop Because you can so jump 10m out of the water irl 01:13 jordan4ibanez Oh nooooooooooo 01:14 jordan4ibanez I submitted my forum post on accident! I can't edit the poll! 01:14 khonkhortisan delete it? 01:14 jordan4ibanez How? 01:15 jordan4ibanez VanessaE please delete this FAST!: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4888 01:16 Menche there should be a "delete" button at the bottom of the post 01:17 jordan4ibanez There's not 01:17 VanessaE dekleted. 01:17 VanessaE deleted, too. 01:17 * khonkhortisan goes off to reklete something 01:18 Menche You had your post both dekleted AND deleted?!?! 01:18 * jordan4ibanez hugs vanessa 01:18 MinetestBot jordan4ibanez: :D 01:18 khonkhortisan oh that's an adjective 01:18 jordan4ibanez thank you :D 01:20 * Kacey hugs himself 01:20 MinetestBot Kacey: :D 01:20 Kacey hugs 01:20 Kacey nope didnt work 01:20 jordan4ibanez hugs 01:20 jordan4ibanez hmm 01:20 * jordan4ibanez hugs 01:20 * khonkhortisan hugs 01:21 * jordan4ibanez hugs poop 01:21 MinetestBot jordan4ibanez: :D 01:21 jordan4ibanez wtf 01:21 khonkhortisan hehe 01:21 jordan4ibanez O.o 01:21 MinetestBot jordan4ibanez: What are you wondering about? 01:21 * khonkhortisan hugs ":D" 01:21 MinetestBot khonkhortisan: :D 01:21 jordan4ibanez ITS ALIVE D: 01:21 khonkhortisan You! Wondering about you! 01:21 * Menche puts a puppy on MinetestBot's harddrive 01:21 MinetestBot Menche: Awwwww.... 01:22 * khonkhortisan puts a kitten on MinetestBot harddrive, which then starts fighting with the puppy in a way MinetestBot can't say "Aww" about. 01:22 MinetestBot khonkhortisan: I don't want it, talk to NekoGloop, he likes kittens 01:22 khonkhortisan oh 01:22 * NekoGloop hugs ALL THE PEOPLE. 01:22 MinetestBot NekoGloop: :D 01:23 khonkhortisan it worked 01:23 khonkhortisan mbot didn't say aww 01:23 Menche how do you check whether a command was successful? 01:23 MiJyn minetestbot, you are mean 01:23 khonkhortisan whether mbot says anything 01:23 MiJyn hugs 01:23 MiJyn hugs minetestbot 01:23 * MiJyn huts minetestbot 01:23 * khonkhortisan hugs MinetestBot 01:23 MinetestBot khonkhortisan: :D 01:23 * MiJyn hugs minetest bot 01:23 MinetestBot MiJyn: :D 01:23 MiJyn FINALLY 01:24 khonkhortisan What does it take to make a self-repairing machine? 01:25 NekoGloop khonkhortisan: A kitten, elbow grease, and a few years of training 01:25 jordan4ibanez This is the best commit yet http://goo.gl/zeB07 01:25 khonkhortisan I'd need a blood vein of pipeworks, with a dispenser to replace the blood vein, with another dispenser to replace that dispenser, and so on 01:26 Menche how do you test whether a server is running? 01:26 hmmmm there 01:26 khonkhortisan Let's see who moves the key config there first 01:26 Traxie21 MenHia 01:26 hmmmm there's sample code for it in docs/protocol.txt* 01:26 jordan4ibanez You ping it menche 01:27 khonkhortisan killall minetestserver 01:27 NekoGloop jordan4ibanez: No, this is: https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest/commit/3849349c19fb9f8ad0eb9b821efb8f5f98e71ae9 01:27 Traxie21 Is there a way to close formspecs with custom keys? 01:27 VanessaE can I get a few people to download today's updates of moretrees and plantlife and tell me if they experience any crashes? 01:27 khonkhortisan formspecs are very limited 01:27 VanessaE this has me stymied: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=72310#p72310 01:28 Traxie21 khonk, with a bit of ingenuity, you can do a lot with a formspec 01:28 Kacey http://menche.servegame.com/ no map anymore? 01:28 Traxie21 I just made a achievements system 01:28 Menche wow, not sure what happened 01:28 Traxie21 https://github.com/Traxie21/achievements 01:31 Kacey found a desert cave lol 01:32 khonkhortisan how do I get to the sound menu? 01:32 khonkhortisan oh. Have to 'make' after 'git pull' 01:32 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaGtncA/screenshot_164879085.png 01:32 Kacey cmake first lol 01:33 khonkhortisan every time? 01:33 Menche Kacey: fixed the map page 01:34 Menche but minetestmapper only made half a map :( 01:34 Menche "terminate called after throwing an instance of 'DbError'" 01:34 Kacey http://menche.servegame.com/ it says welcome to nginx 01:34 Menche should be fixed now 01:35 Menche minetestmapper is only generating a small section of the map 01:35 jordan4ibanez I can't wait for that particle spawner in c++ THE POSSIBILITIES :D 01:42 ShadowNinja has anyone else noticed that node placement prediction seems to be off for all blocks in latest git? 01:43 RealBadAngel there was a patch about it 01:43 RealBadAngel check latest commits 01:43 jordan4ibanez RBA When is your compooper coming out? 01:43 RealBadAngel lol 01:44 RealBadAngel dunno, last 2 days ive spent inside engine 01:45 RealBadAngel just pulled some code bout trees 01:45 RealBadAngel tommorrow morning i want to finish 6d facedir patch 01:45 jordan4ibanez oh ok 01:45 * ShadowNinja compiles and gets lag heaven 01:46 jordan4ibanez I wonder if there could be a basic reload mod, which on server close loads a .sh file which starts up the server 01:46 RealBadAngel and then i will start adding new elements and fixes for formspec 01:46 RealBadAngel which are needed by computer 01:46 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: that's easily done. while true; do sleep 1; minetestserver --foo --bar --blah; done 01:46 jordan4ibanez What will the computer be able to do? CAN I EMAIL OTHER computers? 01:47 jordan4ibanez oops caps lock lol 01:47 RealBadAngel huh, possibly 01:47 RealBadAngel just write an app for it 01:47 jordan4ibanez Oh okay, neato, I wish there was a very basic server console gui :L 01:48 Kacey i can make an IO expander for the computers if you just make them rba 01:49 Kacey so digilines can be used 01:49 RealBadAngel that will be needed too 01:49 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Hi! 01:49 RealBadAngel hi OldCoder 01:50 Menche hmmmm: how to use that? i assume it is BASH? 01:50 NekoGloop ComputerCraft in MT? 01:50 Kacey more of redpower 2 01:50 RealBadAngel by now sinple command line intterpreter 01:51 NekoGloop Hell, as long as it ain't fuckin' FORTH. 01:51 jordan4ibanez If you guys make redpower in minetest :D 01:51 jordan4ibanez FORTH is easy, why not put it in there? 01:51 RealBadAngel we already have forth in lua 01:51 RealBadAngel also lua in lua is possible 01:52 Kacey lol luacontrollers 01:52 RealBadAngel not really 01:52 NekoGloop FORTH is easy; you only have to invent the stone, the chisel, the tools to make the chisel, and the tools to make those tools, in order to make the wheel. 01:52 RealBadAngel http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaInterpreterInLua 01:52 RealBadAngel lua in a sandbox 01:53 jordan4ibanez I run on lua 01:53 jordan4ibanez But can lua run on me? 01:53 NekoGloop I run on caffeeine. 01:53 RealBadAngel so writing programs in it wont crash the game 01:53 jordan4ibanez Can you run c++ in lua? 01:53 RealBadAngel but just ingame computer 01:54 Menche you can load a c++ library from lua, that's how the irc mod works 01:54 jordan4ibanez Can we write minetest mods in the computer you're making? 01:54 Menche can we run minetest in the computer you're making? 01:54 jordan4ibanez Oh okay 01:55 RealBadAngel lol 01:55 NekoGloop I have a youtube subscriber without any videos. 01:55 jordan4ibanez I wonder if we can create computers with minetest 01:56 RealBadAngel why not? 01:56 jordan4ibanez Well it'd take an incredible amount of energy to create hardware and software, then write an OS 01:56 jordan4ibanez What OS will your computers have? 01:57 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/user/GloopTheMaster 1 subscriber - 0 videos. 01:57 RealBadAngel im targeting on porting CP/M on it 01:57 NekoGloop LOGIC. WHERE ART THOUGH. 01:57 NekoGloop THOU, even. 01:58 jin_xi so its a Z80? 01:58 NekoGloop Guess I'm just that good. (⌐■_■) 01:59 RealBadAngel yes 01:59 khonkhortisan You need mesecons to make computers in minetest 02:00 NekoGloop khonkhortisan: He's making a computer in lua. 02:00 khonkhortisan jordan4ibanez, you can just use creative mode 02:02 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pyrTM_aZQI found the rp2 computer 02:02 jordan4ibanez No to make computers with guis, and such :D 02:03 hmmmm Menche, no, it clearly says that it's PHP 02:04 Menche oh, dug 02:04 Menche *duh 02:04 hmmmm try something like: php check_server.php 02:04 hmmmm if you have php installed 02:04 Menche suppose i should have read the whole thing :P 02:05 VanessaE oops 02:06 VanessaE brb 02:06 RealBadAngel hehe 02:06 VanessaE bah, stupid thing. 02:06 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to celeron55/minetest: Merge pull request #505 from RealBadAngel/master 9bd76f2972 2013-02-23T18:06:07-08:00 http://git.io/Dbfi-Q 02:14 * Kacey REALLY wants that computer 02:16 * ShadowNinja likes the volume change option 02:31 * Kacey is bored... 02:32 RealBadAngel ShadowNinja, way better than previous one, isnt it? 02:34 RealBadAngel btw have you done anything new with the force fields? 02:34 Kacey oops 02:39 Kacey [string "if event.(type == "digiline" channel == "1" msg == "false") and..."]:1: '' expected near '(' 02:39 Kacey ? 02:41 Kacey how do i make it so that if 2 digiline channels and messages are correct, a port is true? 02:52 Traxie21 meow 02:53 Kacey moo 02:53 ShadowNinja Kacey use event == {type="digiline, channel="1",msg="false"} 02:54 Kacey k 02:54 Kacey ( or { 02:54 Kacey does it matter? 02:54 ShadowNinja and RealBad angel much better, I havn't worked on it recently 02:54 ShadowNinja it is { 02:55 Kacey does it matter? 02:55 ShadowNinja () organizes {} specifies a table 02:55 Kacey aah 02:55 ShadowNinja s/organizes/groups/ 02:57 Kacey not seeming to work 02:58 ShadowNinja is that all there is in event? 02:58 Kacey ill pm you the code 02:59 ShadowNinja if not you can just do event.type=="digiline" and event.channel ... 03:00 Kacey no because i need 2 channels to send the false message for it to work 03:00 * ShadowNinja needs to get irssi notifications to work 03:01 ShadowNinja sorry if I don't respond to pm's 03:02 Kacey pmed 03:03 ShadowNinja of course it will fail, it is like saying if x==1 and x==2 03:03 Kacey then how do i get it to work? 03:03 ShadowNinja you need to use memory 03:03 NekoGloop ew irssi 03:04 ShadowNinja mem.* is persistent 03:04 Kacey ? 03:04 ShadowNinja thexyz: if you are online can you help? 03:05 ShadowNinja when you get a signal you have to save it 03:05 Kacey how? 03:05 ShadowNinja mem.got_first_part_of_message=true 03:06 Kacey ? 03:06 ShadowNinja as soon as you get a digiline message it is removed 03:07 ShadowNinja write it on a luacontroller on my server and I can try to rewrite it 03:07 Kacey ip? 03:08 ShadowNinja 67.241.154.164 03:08 ShadowNinja serverlist is working now 03:08 Kacey mine isnt 03:09 Kacey i think serverlist_url is wrong 03:10 ShadowNinja do you have it compiled with curl? 03:11 ShadowNinja RealBadAngel: could you add a clear inventory button to unified_inventory? 03:23 ShadowNinja can someone get [ and ] working in formspecs please? 03:25 Kacey ? 03:50 Kacey getting off for the nighr 03:50 Kacey night* 04:03 jordan4ibanez ok so everything on my server is fully automated 04:04 jordan4ibanez my computer starts up at 8:50, which when it gets to the desktop it starts up the virtual server, which starts/restarts the server every 1 hour, so I could not be there for a week and it'd work 04:05 jordan4ibanez Also you can give a post THOUSANDS of views by holding down the refresh button 04:05 jordan4ibanez I just gave your server 400 views in 15 seconds VanessaE lol 04:07 jordan4ibanez But how do I have it so I can see what a chron job is doing in the terminal? 04:17 jordan4ibanez I've created a bash script that starts the server, then if minetest crashes, restarts the script, but now I can't stop it lol 04:18 sdzen this is why man invented the power cord :) 04:18 jordan4ibanez Oh wait I stopped it 04:18 jordan4ibanez Now that joke isn't funny :( 04:19 sdzen hmmmm look at this cave http://i2.minus.com/igS8CrP8Jtjsd.png 04:20 hmmmm that is a pretty crazy cave 04:20 jordan4ibanez WTF are you wielding?! 04:20 hmmmm it's not my fault though 04:21 sdzen I have never seen a cave like that before :) 04:21 NekoGloop Oh hey, look, it's that server that I can't join 04:22 sdzen oh and VanessaE your trees eat caves :P 04:22 sdzen guess they were hungry 04:22 sdzen http://i3.minus.com/ibxtw4NkOVJbZm.png 04:25 jordan4ibanez No 04:25 jordan4ibanez Just no 04:26 jordan4ibanez YES my server auto starts up :D :D :D 04:26 Menche seems to be down at the moment 04:27 jordan4ibanez Why do you say that? 04:28 jordan4ibanez Menche can you have the image cronjob run at */1 on the minute 04:30 Menche what does that do? 04:31 jordan4ibanez */1 makes it happen every minute 04:32 jordan4ibanez or hour, or whatever you put it under */1 is whichever is divisable by 1 04:34 Menche ok 04:34 Menche and, i modified the checking script 04:35 Menche now, rather than pinging the server, it actually checks if minetestserver is running 04:35 jordan4ibanez Sweet 04:35 Menche modified the code from minetestbot 04:35 jordan4ibanez Very smart 04:37 NekoGloop What does the "builder" specialty do? 04:39 sdzen hmm menche does it also check for minetest --server? running? 04:40 Menche it begins to connect to the server and checks for the server's response 04:40 jordan4ibanez What is this? https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commit/bc2e9dbaf2fe31a1aa8282c0ac7c87aee490c75c 04:41 Menche something to do with announcing the server status to the official server list 04:41 jordan4ibanez Hmm, i wonder if it's like MOTD or something 04:42 Menche http://servers.minetest.net 04:42 Menche apparently only 3 server owners have figured out how to use it 04:42 jordan4ibanez lmfao 04:43 Menche took me a few tries to get it working 04:44 jordan4ibanez wow finite liquid server is amazing 04:44 jordan4ibanez the finite liquid is so fast 04:45 sdzen I enabled it but It doesn't pick up on mine :) 04:46 sdzen I filled out everything 04:46 sdzen but it wont show up :) 04:46 Menche is it really slow or is it just my internet connection 04:48 jordan4ibanez Just your internet connection 04:48 jordan4ibanez I detonated 20 things of hardcore mese tnt :L 04:53 sdzen goodbye world! 04:57 jordan4ibanez sdzen was so young 04:58 jordan4ibanez he was like 6 or something 05:04 jordan4ibanez What is a good protection/land claim plugin? 05:05 Menche i used to use node_ownership 05:05 Menche it requires a moderator to give out areas though 05:05 Menche i was lazy this time, i use protector now 05:07 jordan4ibanez What are moderator privs? 05:07 Menche i forget 05:08 Menche protector doesn't add any special privs 05:09 jordan4ibanez What about cornernote's node_ownership? 05:09 Menche i forget what the privs were, but a moderator had to assign areas for players 05:09 jordan4ibanez nevermind that stinks 05:09 jordan4ibanez hmmmm 05:09 jordan4ibanez I think I'll just add it in to protect spawn 05:09 Menche a player could assign sub-areas of one of his areas himself, though 05:09 Menche it was really hard to use 05:10 Menche the coords couldn't overlap 05:10 jordan4ibanez Is it good for spawn protection? Does it protect against falling nodes like sand?\ 05:10 jordan4ibanez sand* 05:10 Menche i don't think it can 05:10 Menche what i use now is protector 05:10 jordan4ibanez what is protector? 05:11 Menche a player can place a special block, and everything with 8 blocks of it is claimed 05:11 Menche not as flexible, but much easier and keeps me from being flooded with requests to protect areas 05:11 jordan4ibanez Does that protect against falling nodes? 05:12 Menche i don't think it checks for entities 05:12 jordan4ibanez Man there's not one thing that can protect against falling nodes 05:12 Menche you can just use rollback to get anything that protection misses 05:12 Menche rollback even undos fire damage 05:13 Menche rollback logging isn't enabled by default, though 05:14 MiJyn bye all 05:16 jordan4ibanez What a perdicament 05:30 jordan4ibanez Man minetest servers are a bit easier to work with then minecraft servers 05:32 FreeFull Are minecraft servers written in java? 05:32 jordan4ibanez Yea, but bukkit is supposed to be extremely easy 05:33 jordan4ibanez With latest updates it has become a compatability/privelage mess 05:38 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/aKEcGSgLWYE 05:38 jordan4ibanez Lowers your blood pressure 06:03 akerok Hello. 06:09 jordan4ibanez My game settings aren't getting saved to the minetest.conf 06:10 jordan4ibanez hi azerok 06:11 akerok How are you? 06:11 jordan4ibanez Grand, and yourself? 06:13 akerok I'm alright. Just trying to figure out what's wrong with my mods. 06:14 jordan4ibanez nice 06:14 jordan4ibanez Aparently when you compile minetest as a server alone it can't modify the minetest.conf? 06:15 akerok Really? 06:15 jordan4ibanez celeron55 is this correct? Or am I doing something wrong? 06:15 jordan4ibanez Yes, it appears to be so, I checked if it was writable and it is 06:19 akerok I see. I'm doing as much research as I can on Lua and C right now. I want to try to help develop Minetest if I can. 06:22 akerok I'm starting by working on a mod. Hopefully, this will give me some background so I can help improve the game ultimately. 06:24 MiJyn Hey, I'm totally off-topic! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bis0ZnKQTK0 !!!! 06:24 MiJyn good song though :P 06:24 MiJyn well, I gtg to bed, see y'all later (yes, I know, you missed my many 0 lines that I wrote today ;) 06:25 akerok Take care. 06:25 MiJyn thanks :) 06:25 MiJyn oh, btw, I have done lots of work on my mod, might release it soon :D 06:25 akerok You are welcome. 06:25 MiJyn (and yes, I know, who cares, but... well... it's related to minetest :P) 06:25 akerok lol 06:26 MiJyn xD 06:26 MiJyn anyways, now I think I _really_ got to go 06:28 akerok Ttyl. 06:43 OldCoder Zzz 06:48 VanessaE z. 06:49 * VanessaE wanders off to bed. 07:48 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload rssnotify 07:48 MinetestBot sfan5: (version: 2013-02-24 07:48:27) 08:54 Oblivion1500 anyone here have experience with mysql5? 08:57 sfan5 Oblivi 08:57 sfan5 Oblivion1500: i have some experience 08:57 sfan5 please note the "some" 09:50 RealBadAngel hi all 09:50 MinetestBot hi RealBadAngel 10:21 jin_xi sup 10:41 BackupCoder heyzzz 10:52 MinetestBot hi john_minetest 11:06 akerok Hello. 11:07 akerok How are you? 11:17 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:17 MinetestBot hi PilzAdam 11:18 RealBadAngel hi 11:18 MinetestBot hi RealBadAngel 11:19 jin_xi Hey Adam 11:22 Jordach Calinou, do you know what day it is? 11:27 Calinou open a terminal and type date :> 11:27 Jordach Calinou, nope. 11:27 Jordach Linux upgradin' day. 11:28 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, what happens if Lua passes no seed to make_ltree()? 11:28 RealBadAngel nothing 11:29 RealBadAngel seed is 0 11:29 PilzAdam wouldnt it be better if a random seed gets generated when Lua doesnt provide one? 11:30 RealBadAngel no seed means no seed, not a random one 11:30 celeron55 a random seed would be much better 11:30 celeron55 probably 11:31 RealBadAngel add it? 11:32 Calinou *random idea appears*, let user input seed when creating world :P 11:38 Jordach hey PilzAdam 11:41 * Jordach will start installing Xubuntu once file transfers are complete 11:43 PilzAdam Kubuntu is better 11:43 PilzAdam Xubuntu is for slow PCs 11:43 Jordach PilzAdam, fancy DE == slow GPU 11:43 Jordach PilzAdam, i want speed boosts 11:43 Jordach rather than slowness 11:44 PilzAdam KDE works fine on my GTX 460 11:44 Jordach the less power i require the better 11:45 Jordach sfan5, (TF2 later?) 11:45 * Jordach will finally sign back into steam 11:50 * FreeFull uses dwm. dwm is not something to be used by someone who enjoys the convienience of a standard WM. dwm is nice when you do everything with your keyboard anyway 11:52 * john_minetest uses dwm. 11:52 * Jordach uses nothing atm 12:21 Jordach how is everyone 12:22 jin_xi hm, i'm wonderin if i should merge the tree editor and axiom generator into one thing 12:22 Jordach jin_xi, wise idea 12:25 jin_xi lol, well i dont think anyone is ever gonna use either... 12:26 celeron55 people won't use most things, but nobody can know beforehand what people will use 12:27 Jordach eg, ms word and lotus writer 12:27 Jordach (one came before, but the other overtook) 12:30 * Jordach is considering writing a distro called GlaDOS 12:33 Jordach 2/3 PC's in this house run xubuntu, (the third is a brand new win 7 tower) 12:33 sfan5 !ar enable 12:33 MinetestBot AR enabled. 12:34 Jordach Action Replay? 12:34 sfan5 Automated Response 12:34 Jordach aye 12:34 sfan5 sfan5, (TF2 later?) 12:34 Jordach yes 12:34 sfan5 i was playing some xonotic 12:34 sfan5 in case you don't know xonotic 12:34 sfan5 !g xonotic 12:34 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.xonotic.org/ 12:34 Jordach sfan5, i usually play [MoN] Vehicle gameplay 12:34 Jordach (usually unlimited ammo CTF) 12:35 sfan5 i usually play [MoN] Overkill [Mod] 12:35 Jordach i play that too, surprised i've not played you yet 12:35 sfan5 what about you join #mon.xonotic @ QuakeNet 12:36 * Jordach hopes i used sda5 as "/" install point 12:36 Jordach (sda2 is the music / movie drive) 12:36 sfan5 I used UUID=9308b44e-ed95-4c19-bf54-7c1d5cc080b1 as the install drive :P 12:36 Jordach sfan5, later, i have a quakenet nick too 12:37 Jordach once im in and happy, i'll game on later 12:37 * Jordach is close to the finish of installing 12:37 sfan5 well i'm going to play some xonotic right now 12:38 Jordach :D 12:38 sfan5 hello from my ipod 12:38 sfan5 ... 12:38 sfan5 ^ advantage of bouncers 12:38 * Jordach pokes Taoki[mobile]'s Samsung Galaxy S3 12:39 sfan5 same nick 2 devices 12:39 Jordach final stretch now, downloading packages 12:46 Jordach bbiab 12:50 sfan5 :D 12:54 jordach there we go 12:56 jordach mmhmm, the smell of linux 12:58 sfan5 :D 12:58 sfan5 \o\ 12:58 jordach sfan5, what channel in qn 12:59 sfan5 #mon.xonotic 12:59 jordach done 12:59 jordach not to set LDRoT 13:01 sfan5 wut? 13:01 jordach now* 13:02 jordach (irc server) 13:20 jordach i've just realised i've got 30 GBP in google adsense money 13:30 sapier I've just added experimental pathfinding to mobf. Currently it's not doing anything usefull and only finding paths on surface. you may test it by calling 13:30 sapier "find_path pos1 pos2 (short)" 13:30 sapier if you add "short" it'll find shortest path which will take quite some time so be carefull with this optional parameter 13:33 jordach so shortest takes the longest 13:34 jordach irony. 13:35 sapier always same ;-) 13:35 sapier on most situations heuristic is almost as good as shortest 13:35 jordach sapier, why not A* with Heuristics? 13:36 sapier it is A* ;-) but A* is only a class of algorithms not a fully specified one 13:36 sapier and A* is limited to "one surface" movement 13:38 jordach odd bug: 13:36:24: INFO[main]: Lazily creating item texture and mesh for "moreblocks:slab_coalchecker_wall" 13:45 jordach this is strange. 13:45 jordach minetest from the terminal just dies 13:46 * jordach suspects chromium 13:47 * jordach has this bug before. 13:49 jordach bbiab, reboot 13:54 jordach you are literally fucking kidding me 13:54 jordach 220fps with opengl 14:01 PilzAdam jordach, what have you expected? 14:21 jordach well thats strange 14:21 jordach i can only run minetest once before i cant run it again 14:21 jordach (it uses PilzAdam's flatmap) 14:22 jordach oh and: 14:20:52: INFO[main]: Updating configuration file: "/home/jordach/Desktop/minetest-flat/bin/../minetest.conf" 14:22 jordach 14:20:52: INFO[main]: Skipping writing of /home/jordach/Desktop/minetest-flat/bin/../minetest.conf because content wouldn't be modified 14:23 sapier seems perfectly normal? 14:23 jordach the program hangs at the main menu 14:24 jordach the nvidia driver is usually the source of this bug 14:25 * jordach tries recommended 14:27 jordach brb 14:32 webdesigner97 hi! 14:32 MinetestBot hi webdesigner97 14:32 jordach sapier, it was the driver 14:33 sapier driver? strange 14:36 jordach and i semise xonotic will be quicker 14:40 troller https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/482 - wants to merge, try on server h4.setun.net:30000 14:41 jordach x-msg much? 14:43 jordach awesome, my server is up! 81.155.108.41 14:46 thexyz !up 81.155.108.41 14:46 MinetestBot 81.155.108.41:30000 is up (0.139ms) 14:49 thexyz https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-stress/commit/066d257ad031162cae98597c8075107c22759320 14:50 thexyz it's already possible to code small mods in it 14:50 thexyz (i hope) 14:51 sapier what does stress mean? 14:51 thexyz http://dev.minetest.net/User:Xyz/stress 14:51 thexyz like in "to stress" 14:51 thexyz _ 14:52 sapier I still don't understand what this intends to do? 14:52 sapier is this just another sort of entity more similar to nodes? 14:53 thexyz to make modders' lifes easier 14:53 thexyz it's like jQuery for javascript 14:53 sapier I still don't see what this should do? 14:54 thexyz write less, do more 14:54 thexyz framework, syntactic sugar 14:54 sapier can you please explain WHAT this framework is intended to do not whats api or whats benefit ;-P 14:54 thexyz 18:53 thexyz: write less, do more 14:55 sapier so it's just a new api 14:55 thexyz maybe, call it whatever you want 14:55 jordach sfan5, your blocker works 14:56 Kacey hiall 14:56 jordach hey Kacey 14:56 Kacey hahaha 14:56 hmmmm you're putting lua coders under a lot of Stress with that 14:56 sapier doesn't look more readable to me but I assume that's a personal opinion only 14:56 sfan5 jordach: blocker? 14:56 Kacey MinetestBot doesnt know what to do 14:56 Kacey ? 14:56 jordach sfan5, your custom .we 14:56 jordach (or loader) 14:56 sfan5 its a .we loader 14:58 thexyz sapier: why? 14:58 jordach but its VERY fast 14:58 jordach come see 14:59 thexyz https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-stress/blob/master/examples/simple/init.lua#L9 14:59 sapier because _ could mean anything 14:59 sfan5 jordach: i know that its fast 14:59 thexyz oh 15:00 thexyz good to know that's the only flaw 15:00 sapier it's nit a speaking name at all it's just a define 15:00 thexyz you, of course, can write Stress instead of _ 15:00 jordach you havent seen industrial scale usage 15:00 sapier that's just the most obvious one 15:00 thexyz any others? 15:00 Kacey jordach what happened to Jordach? 15:00 jordach Kacey, i just moved to xubuntu 15:00 Kacey 12.04? 15:00 sapier stress doesn't mean anything at all ... you might already have noticed I couldn't link "stress" to any usefull feature 15:00 Kacey i use that 15:00 celeron55 sapier: have you ever used jquery? 15:01 jordach 11.10 fyi 15:01 Kacey aah 15:01 Kacey cool 15:01 sapier yes but I didn't like it as it's more database than programming language 15:01 celeron55 lol :D 15:02 celeron55 i don't think you can be serious 15:02 thexyz the name is random but I don't think it's way too bad 15:02 sapier I don't say it's bad only it's unreadable in my opinion 15:02 thexyz fine 15:02 ShadowNinja Kacey: my server is back up if you want to finish what you were doing 15:02 sapier I think of benchmarking and test on reading the word "stress" 15:03 Kacey i know i am on it right now 15:03 celeron55 the name sure is pretty random, but i have no better alternatives 15:03 thexyz celeron55: do you like the idea? 15:03 celeron55 (so i don't complain) 15:03 celeron55 thexyz: dunno, i haven't written enough mod code to form any opinion on such 15:04 Kacey my luacontroller keeps breaking... 15:04 celeron55 other than that i don't really object it 15:05 celeron55 i was surprised anyone came up with that in the first place, it's an interesting idea 15:05 sapier reading: >_("default:dirt"):on("place",< I have to evaluate this expression to see what it's actually doing ... while I see at first glance what the long way does ... maybe that changes on using it but I hope you won't drop the current api as it's far more beginer friendly 15:06 jordach okay, mt crash 15:06 celeron55 sapier: jquery, as well as stress, is about adding a few more conventions in order to lessen verbosity 15:06 celeron55 you have to learn the conventions first 15:06 celeron55 then you can judge it 15:07 sapier no I don't have to learn any arbitrary complex language to tell it doesn't look easy to beginners 15:07 jin_xi i have not used jquery and am not used to the style but yes, it looks like it can make mod code a lot shorter. 15:08 sapier maybe I'm biased because mobf doesn't use node code very much 15:08 celeron55 all i can say is programming browser javascript is much saner with the help of jquery as compared to vanilla interfaces; i guess that can apply to MT too 15:09 sapier ok as browser prorgramming is almost most insane thing I ever tried I assume you're right in this case 15:11 sapier by the way I assume my scriptapi.cpp split was work to be trashed ? 15:13 celeron55 don't blame me; i'm doing (and have done, and will do) nothing in the repo 15:13 sapier that's been a question not a blame ;-) 15:14 hmmmm it needs to be manually merged 15:14 sapier I assume adding _ will make some changes to scriptapi.cpp so split would need thexyz to merge it to it ... or split to be redone 15:14 thexyz hmm? 15:14 thexyz how's that related? 15:15 sapier didn't you have to change scriptapi.cpp ? 15:15 thexyz it's a standalone mod 15:15 thexyz nope 15:15 sapier ohh ok my fault 15:15 thexyz just plain lua 15:15 sapier as everyone is here atm split merge is time critical as any further progress in minetest would have to be merged to it 15:16 sapier so decision should be done fast in my opinion 15:16 thexyz ask in -dev then 15:17 sapier I did ;-) no one did answer 15:17 sapier but I'll do again ;-) 15:17 hmmmm maybe if we had some way to hold a vote on issues like this 15:18 sapier how to do a vote on pull requests? 15:18 hmmmm hmm 15:18 hmmmm forum topic..? 15:18 Kray >open source project 15:18 Kray >democracy 15:18 sapier open source != democracy most cases ;-) 15:18 thexyz i think only committers should vote 15:19 hmmmm well yeah obviously. most non-committers even know what the changes do 15:19 thexyz with LGTM or something 15:19 Gambit better to have a strong, active release manager 15:19 hmmmm don't even know* 15:20 hmmmm anyway see how celeron stopped chatting when the issue came up? 15:20 sapier I'm with gambit as this ensures some consistent direction 15:20 hmmmm it's abundantly clear (to me at least) that we shouldn't bother asking him for confirmation anymore 15:21 thexyz then we should have some way to add more people with push access to the repo 15:22 sapier someone needs to be "responsible" for what is commited 15:22 thexyz that's usually the guy who merged it 15:22 sapier having right to deny some changes not driving development in correct direction 15:22 hmmmm other open source projects that use github aren't pinned to a single person, they usually have an account for that project 15:22 sapier whatever correct means 15:22 thexyz well, I registered https://github.com/minetest a while ago 15:23 hmmmm and i guess all the 'officers' have access to it 15:24 sapier maybe some group of "top 10" commiters to decide what's added 15:24 celeron55 judging by "top committers" isn't directly good, because that leads to uselessly large amounts of commits because adding 100 commits gets you 100 voting power 15:25 sapier I may have said this missleading "top 10" is of course not enough to decide who should be in there. But that's another discussion I'm currently interested in your personal opinion about the scriptapi.cpp split only? 15:25 celeron55 more like "committers in the last three months" 15:25 celeron55 no matter how small 15:25 sapier with "you" not being celeron only ;-) 15:27 celeron55 < Gambit> better to have a strong, active release manager <- this is true, and i have been passively looking for such a person for like a year already; such just seems to be quite inexistent 15:28 * ShadowNinja wants to get "[" and "]" working in formspecs, perhaps with escape characters like \, [ and ] 15:29 jin_xi ShadowNinja: i had that problem too 15:29 sapier I assume this'd be a minor change for anyone whith advanced c knowledge 15:30 ShadowNinja maybe minetest.fromspec_escape(string) 15:30 sapier in my opinion this shouldn't be done in lua but directly in c 15:31 jordach i've just come across a very hidden bug, and super rare (in happening cases) 15:31 sapier what is it? ;-) 15:31 ShadowNinja I mean the c should accept escape characters 15:31 jordach type /status 15:32 jordach uptime= will eventually hit the top number limit 15:32 thexyz won't happen in a lifetime 15:32 sapier isn't it a 32bit value? 15:33 Calinou what if we go back in time to 1970 and start a MT server there 15:33 Calinou we'll reach it in 2038! 15:33 jordach thexyz, just because it wont, doesnt mean it will 15:33 thexyz lol, no 15:33 thexyz Calinou: think floats 15:33 sapier shadowninja it's not a problem of c it'll accept [ to but needs to be considered on evaluating the formspec in order to display the form 15:34 ShadowNinja do you know where formspec strings are proccessed? 15:35 sapier yes 15:35 ShadowNinja ah found it 15:35 sapier I think it's not very much to do to make escape sequences work 15:36 jordach morning NekoGloop 15:36 NekoGloop Meow... 15:36 Kacey Moo 15:37 jordach do ya want good news or the bad news 15:37 NekoGloop Tell me both 15:37 jordach good news: my pc os got an upgrade. 15:37 jordach bad news: its linux 15:37 Kacey how is that bad news? 15:37 jordach because lost compatibility 15:37 NekoGloop How do those two even happen together? 15:38 jin_xi so if palautus is return are tek and plop words too (looking at strfnd.h)? 15:38 jordach because Windows XP support expiry date 15:38 NekoGloop It's not like the support was doing anything anyway... 15:38 * Kacey still has an old dell with XP on it 15:39 Calinou jordach: distro? 15:39 jordach xubuntu 15:39 Calinou XP support expires in end 2014 btw 15:39 * Calinou highfives jordach 15:39 Calinou 12.10? 15:39 jordach 11.10, last disc i had 15:39 Calinou it'll be EOL soon :P 15:39 jordach (ill upgrade later 15:39 jordach ) 15:40 jordach also: be careful with the nvidia driver 15:40 jordach anything other than recommended, minetest will only run once before a reboot is needed 15:41 jordach Gambit, was that a balls up? 15:42 * Calinou uses 313.18 driver from xorg-edgers 15:42 Calinou everything works fine 15:42 Calinou opengl 4.3 support :-D nvidia-current-updates is only at 304.51, opengl 4.2 only 15:43 jordach Calinou, 173 here 15:43 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on Gambit's head 15:43 * jordach checks 15:43 Gambit a menu that was over top of the disconnect button closed unexpectedly milliseconds before I tried to click something on the menu :| 15:44 jordach Calinou, version-current apparently 15:46 * jordach hands NekoGloop an IP 15:47 NekoGloop Hah, i don't need that. 15:47 * john_minetest magnetizes NekoGloop and puts an iron kitten on NekoGloop's head 15:48 LMfails ah, too bad LandMine's not here. We'd all have such fun 15:49 Calinou jordach: use current-updates :P 15:49 sfan5 this is suspicious 15:49 jordach Calinou, can only run minetest ONCE with it 15:49 LMfails sfan5: hey 15:49 Calinou with both? 15:49 LMfails why did you connect the other day and just leave? 15:49 jordach only current-updates 15:49 Calinou oh 15:49 sfan5 why not? 15:50 jordach Nvidia GeForce 6xxx 15:50 Calinou nvidia-current occasionally hangs up everything for me /P 15:50 Calinou and the updates one doesn't 15:50 Calinou and the xorg-edgers one doesn't too 15:50 Calinou to each his own :P 15:50 jordach Calinou, annoyingly, 220fps with openGL# 15:50 sfan5 nouveau! bah 15:50 sfan5 i had to prevent the kernel from running nouveau to even install ubuntu 15:51 sfan5 (nouveau kernel module) 15:51 Calinou sfan5: that's because you have a nvidia chipset 8D 15:51 sfan5 ik 15:51 Calinou john_minetest: and your card runs at 2D freqs and no GL 4.3 support? :/ 15:52 Calinou nvidia chipsets, the most broken thing after catalyst 15:52 sfan5 i have opengl 4.2 15:52 sfan5 i'm currently updating from nvidia-current to nvidia-current-updated 15:52 sfan5 *updates 15:53 LMfails anyway, so i called up my revolutionary friend 15:53 sfan5 DEBUG:Failure to match Packard Bell with Dell Inc. 15:53 LMfails and he supplied me with some LandMine coordinates 15:53 sfan5 you don't say? 15:53 LMfails which means fun will be had 15:54 Kacey coords are 78.134.137.202 15:54 LMfails o noes 15:54 LMfails wat eva shall i do nao 15:54 sfan5 !up 78.134.137.202 15:54 MinetestBot 78.134.137.202:30000 seems to be down 15:55 Kacey /whois LMfails 15:55 LMfails call the internet police, right away 15:57 Calinou 20-30FPS here, 570GTX, with nvidia 300+FPS easy 15:57 Calinou VRAM has nothing to do with performance today, it's a commercial argument 15:57 Calinou my 570 (1280MB) pwns your 630M (2048MB) ;) 15:59 Kacey http://ompldr.org/vaGtvNg/screenshot_216866000.png floating sand ^_^ 15:59 sfan5 time to restart my computer 15:59 Calinou john_minetest: nouveau can only reclock some 9xxx series cards (4 years old) 15:59 sfan5 MinetestBot: quit smoking 16:00 Calinou only card where it is actually competitive is the 9800GTX, makes so much noise and eats 200 watts easily 16:00 Calinou and fermi/kepler reclocking seems to be harder than ever so we're definitely not getting it :> 16:02 Calinou mobile + quadro, epic combination :D 16:04 * jordach pokes NekoGloop 16:04 * Calinou puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head 16:04 jordach NekoGloop isnt running iOS 6.1.x 16:04 NekoGloop Calinou: I don't want it, talk to MinetestBot, he likes kittens. 16:04 jordach "iPhone OS 6.0.1 (ARM)" 16:05 * Kacey likes kittens (they taste good) 16:05 sfan5 D: 16:05 LMfails sfan5: so why did you stay just a day? 16:06 sfan5 i don't know what you mean 16:06 LMfails *second 16:06 LMfails sfan5: you joined like two days ago, only to immediately leave 16:06 sfan5 yeah 16:07 jordach whats sfan5 done this time? 16:07 LMfails nothing 16:07 LMfails why "this time"? 16:08 LMfails anyway, we gon have us some vigilante justice now, yeeehaw 16:09 * john_minetest puts a kitten on LMfails' head 16:09 * LMfails rips it to shreads 16:10 LMfails that's right, imgurian 16:16 Calinou so directx is sad? it's DX. 16:17 Kacey thexyz, /kick LMfails or something please 16:18 LMfails why? 16:22 LMfails Kacey: there was this shepherd boy 16:22 LMfails he had a few sheep that he'd take out to pasture 16:22 Kacey i know 16:22 LMfails and while they grazed, he was bored 16:22 LMfails so he cried "Woolf, woolf!" 16:23 LMfails and the villagers ran up the hill 16:23 LMfails to his aid. Torches, pitchforks and everything. 16:23 LMfails Oh how he LAUGHED and laughed 16:23 LMfails Then the other day he god bored again. So he cried "Woolf, Woolf!", and the villagers came to his aid 16:23 LMfails but there was no wolf this time either 16:23 LMfails and so he laughed, and he laughed 16:24 LMfails one day 16:24 LMfails the woolf came 16:24 Calinou or, "belle histoire, frère" 16:24 LMfails and he panicked, started calling "Woolf, woolf!". But nobody came 16:24 LMfails The end. 16:25 LMfails Calinou: good guy villager. 16:27 artur99 whats difference between Moding General and Mod Relases? 16:27 Calinou mod releases: "approved" mods by moderators and admins 16:28 Calinou modding general: talk about mods here, and unapproved mods are here too 16:28 artur99 aha 16:28 artur99 where to request adding a mod on server? Or just direct talking? 16:33 LMfails i miss cisoun 16:33 jordach can someone mute LMfails? 16:33 jordach or justa +q 16:34 LMfails jordach: okay... 16:34 Calinou artur99: just reply on the server's thread ;) 16:34 LMfails jordach: this isn't #minetest-dev, you know? 16:34 jordach okay mijyn, we get it 16:35 LMfails ? 16:36 LMfails jordach: who is mijyn, and what is it that you're getting (from where i'm sitting not a lot)? 16:40 VanessaE good morning all. 16:40 LMfails hey 16:40 MinetestBot hi LMfails 16:41 LMfails VanessaE: who's darkrose? 16:41 VanessaE A modder and a core contributor to the project. 16:41 VanessaE and generally a nice person. why? 16:50 MiJyn 09:35] okay mijyn, we get it 16:50 MiJyn whtat? 16:50 MiJyn *what 16:50 MiJyn [09:37] jordach: who is mijyn 16:50 MiJyn ME! xD 16:56 LMfails VanessaE: didn't see her around for like a year 16:57 LMfails awww what happened to LM's tree? 16:57 LMfails i guess griefers get griefed 16:58 LMfails i sure hope LandMine does something (about his character) for this fire not to spread to the chest 16:58 LMfails and then to his beach house 16:58 LMfails and i'd hate to see something happen to his glass pyramid 17:04 LMfails mybad, it spread to his chest 17:05 LMfails tried to stop it 17:05 LMfails but that's what happens when you play with fire 17:06 MinetestBot GIT: sfan5 commited to celeron55/minetest: Tweak buildbot 035933f806 2013-01-23T10:42:46-08:00 http://git.io/cf8BHA 17:09 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Fix texture glitch when digging junglegrass 67fa74ac01 2013-01-15T11:30:55-08:00 http://git.io/woE48w 17:09 hmmmm oh yeah 17:09 hmmmm you're probably going to have to fix MinetestBot after this 17:10 hmmmm everybody, it's minetest/minetest anymore, not celeron55/minetest, you need to update your links 17:16 LMfails pics to come 17:16 LMfails for everyone's enjoyment 17:16 LMfails bye 17:17 MinetestBot GIT: jojoa1997 commited to celeron55/minetest_game: makes wood doors craftable from wood group 86cff038a4 2013-02-12T12:46:03-08:00 http://git.io/hBddDw 17:17 artur99 can i try to make an android app with a Minetest Guide? 17:18 Kacey im thinking about pulling a small naming change to minetest_game 17:18 Kacey instead of steel, iron 17:18 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to celeron55/minetest: Merge pull request #505 from RealBadAngel/master 9bd76f2972 2013-02-23T18:06:07-08:00 http://git.io/Dbfi-Q 17:18 VanessaE no, steel 17:18 VanessaE you change it to iron and it breaks a LOT of recipes 17:19 Kacey iron lumps make iron ingots which can be re-cooked to get steel 17:19 VanessaE that moght work. 17:19 VanessaE might* 17:19 artur99 Kacey, were u talking to me? 17:19 Kacey no 17:19 Kacey anyone 17:33 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload rssnotify 17:33 MinetestBot sfan5: (version: 2013-02-24 17:33:30) 17:33 sfan5 hmmmm: links in minetestbot updatex 17:33 sfan5 *updated 17:36 rubenwardy hi all 17:36 MinetestBot hi rubenwardy 17:37 jordach PilzAdam, can i have a word? 17:37 PilzAdam hm? 17:37 jordach to -mods 17:45 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=wLgCew5m6KM wish rba made the computer mod already 17:55 rubenwardy is it me, or is there a lot of newbie spam on the forum? 17:55 jordach yup 17:56 jordach not to mention the forums app is just a web browser without the buttons 17:56 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Update buildbot 92c7bd02fb 2013-02-24T09:52:44-08:00 http://git.io/jTTErw 17:56 jordach (i've made them before.) 18:01 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/uFuwRlV.png whats wrong with this picture? ;) 18:01 * Calinou remembers the font from another game 18:02 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest_game: Update README 230747c748 2013-02-24T10:01:10-08:00 http://git.io/anCLdg 18:04 MinetestBot GIT: Jeija commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Bugfix: Also deactivate the block two below when digging a pressure plate 2848df007e 2013-02-24T10:03:28-08:00 http://git.io/wWty8w 18:06 jordach why/ 18:09 Kacey rba: am/ pm? 18:10 VanessaE RealBadAngel: why'd you break the light on the lever? 18:10 MinetestBot GIT: Jeija commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Don't totally force deactivation of block two below the pressure plate if connected to a receptor e707afef1a 2013-02-24T10:09:07-08:00 http://git.io/xvAO-Q 18:10 jin_xi its upside down, duh 18:11 VanessaE oh that's just wrong 18:11 VanessaE I completely forgot about the full rotation thing 18:11 RealBadAngel indeed, its rotated nodebox :) 18:11 VanessaE well obviously you got texture rotation working along that axis 18:12 RealBadAngel im still fighting with it, it i was allowed to use ^transform with nodeboxes it would be already finished 18:13 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=wLgCew5m6KM rba 18:28 jin_xi RealBadAngel: i think i'll merge treegen editor and axiom generator thing using your multitool. but what kind of tool could that be? 18:28 RealBadAngel idk 18:29 jin_xi treegun? 18:29 sfan5 yes 18:54 Vadtec2 hi all 18:54 MinetestBot hi Vadtec2 18:54 Vadtec2 :P 18:54 Vadtec2 silly MinetestBot 18:55 Vadtec2 anyone active? 18:55 Vadtec2 well, anyone who codes LUA 18:55 jin_xi its lua 18:56 jin_xi hi Vadtec2 18:56 Vadtec2 im wanting to add a command to worldedit that allows me to simply provide a way to set the pos1/2 by giving x,y,z 18:57 Vadtec2 but im not sure if its even possible 18:58 jin_xi i think it should be doable 19:01 ShadowNinja Vadtec2 quite doable, do you want //pos1 x,y,z ? 19:01 Vadtec2 ShadowNinja, basically, yes 19:02 Vadtec2 im just not sure how to create the pos object 19:03 Kacey ShadowNinja, i had an awesome idea pn your server 19:03 Kacey on* 19:04 Kacey hi sapier1 19:04 ShadowNinja what was it? 19:05 Kacey a sorting machine 19:05 Kacey come see 19:10 Vadtec2 ShadowNinja, so any info? 19:11 ShadowNinja yes, just finished, testing 19:12 Vadtec2 ShadowNinja, ah, if you point me in the right direction i can do the rest 19:15 jfu hi guys, just found out about this project. 19:16 sfan5 hello 19:16 MinetestBot hi sfan5 19:16 sfan5 -.- 19:16 jfu ive never played minecraft before but wanted to try out minetest to get a feel what it was all about 19:16 jfu any server to recommend joining? 19:17 Kacey menche.servegame.com 19:17 MinetestBot GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Update Copyright Years 6d0ea26c2d 2013-02-24T11:15:24-08:00 http://git.io/nCSDrQ 19:17 sfan5 no,no 19:17 sfan5 where can i find a minetest server? 19:17 MinetestBot sfan5: http://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?id=10 and http://servers.minetest.ru 19:17 sfan5 ^ jfu 19:18 jfu yeah but i want to see things people have built and stuff. a server list doesnt tell me much about the actual content 19:18 Kacey try them all 19:18 jfu Kacey: ill try the one you said to begin with =) 19:18 sfan5 john_minetest: ik 19:19 jfu i just need to compile it first, im building from git at the moment 19:19 Kacey ok 19:21 RealBadAngel very funny stuff in nodeboxes: i put there counter to see how many times with one nodebox my code to rotate texture is called 19:21 jfu there done, im waiting for it to load. the media seem to take a while =) 19:21 Vadtec2 ShadowNinja, ping me when yer done 19:22 RealBadAngel for one nodebox, where certain rotation shall be used 6 times exactly, code is exececuted, 30, 11, 6, 1 or any other random numebr 19:22 ShadowNinja Vadtec: replace WorldEdit_commands/init.lua with this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5562580/ 19:23 jfu really a game like minecraft is the perfect example of a game that could work as a open source projects so great initiative 19:24 sfan5 yeah 19:24 Vadtec2 ShadowNinja, thanks 19:25 jfu ah there we go, now ill go play 19:26 ShadowNinja sfan5: can you add servers.minetest.net to the list that the bot returns? 19:26 sfan5 yes 19:33 Vadtec2 ShadowNinja, see, now i know how to make the necessary objects :P thanks 19:33 MinetestBot GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Update Copyright Years 6d0ea26c2d 2013-02-24T11:15:24-08:00 http://git.io/nCSDrQ 19:33 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest_game: Update README 230747c748 2013-02-24T10:01:10-08:00 http://git.io/anCLdg 19:33 MinetestBot GIT: sfan5 commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Fix styling issues in Chat Commands.md 34c4475d06 2013-02-23T00:35:16-08:00 http://git.io/kVkDgw 19:33 ShadowNinja you're welcome 19:34 sfan5 could someone please write !test 19:34 ShadowNinja !test 19:34 jin_xi ShadowNinja: did you find a fix for [ and ] in formspecs? 19:34 ShadowNinja no 19:34 ShadowNinja it will not be \[ tho 19:34 sfan5 could someone please write !server 19:35 jin_xi !server 19:35 sfan5 minetestbot seems to have crashed 19:35 sfan5 jin_xi: now again please 19:36 ShadowNinja !server 19:36 jordach !server 19:36 MinetestBot jordach: Dwarves' Kingdom | 95.84.168.231:30000 up (83.997%) 19:36 MinetestBot ShadowNinja: [0.4.3] LAD's creative server 24/7 | minetest.org:30006 up (98.438%) 19:36 sfan5 thank you 19:36 jordach so i get first dibs over everyone else, awesome 19:36 sfan5 MinetestBot: quit eating rainbows 19:44 jfu Kacey: thx for the help. that was cool 19:45 jfu the client was really quick to render, even though im on linux 19:46 Vadtec2 is there a way to convert mesecons power to technic power? 19:46 jfu who is the developer behind this? 19:46 PilzAdam Vadtec2, the problem is that mesecon signals are infinte 19:46 PilzAdam and technic mod has real power 19:47 PilzAdam jfu, mesecons is developed by Jeija, technic by RealBadAngel 19:47 Vadtec2 PilzAdam, infinite? i just ran a length of it and it only went like 32 blocks before it stopped transmitting 19:47 sfan5 My Minetest built-in video recorder works again \o/ 19:48 jfu mesecons? technic? 19:48 PilzAdam Vadtec2, you just have to place a torch to get a signal in mesecons 19:48 RealBadAngel mesecons signals are just TTL (logic signals) 19:48 PilzAdam but in technic you need water turbines, solar panels etc. 19:49 sapier1 has anyone recently noticed a 3d terrain isn't very pathfinding friendly? 19:50 jfu sapier1: what algorithm are you using? 19:50 sapier1 A* but doesn't work for multiple layers 19:51 sapier I try to find a way to create multi-layer cost maps but atm I didn't find a good way 19:51 * sfan5 is going to restart his computer 19:52 Vadtec2 PilzAdam, you sure mesecon is infinite? i seriously have 1 watergen hooked up, and its most certainly not infinite 19:52 sapier the only idea atm is create multiple weight maps for each height level within check range 19:52 sfan5 MinetestBot: quit eating my cake 19:52 jfu sapier: i would assume you just give larger cost for up/down movement compared to sideways and A* should fix the rest for you.... 19:53 sapier no doesn't as A* assumes a flat map 19:54 sapier it doesn't work for bridges 19:55 sapier unless ... hmm 19:55 jfu i think A* can be used for 3D too. i read that a while back. it is just i graph with weights so for each point you need to calculate the cost. up/down would be larger, same as for going through water 19:56 * ShadowNinja has to reompile everything because a comment was changed 19:57 jfu when i said point i ment node 19:58 sapier I know I do it exactly this way ... but i prepare a weight map before calculation to avoid having to fetch all data from core on each step ... which is plain slow ... without this preparation it might work ... still I'd have no way to check quality of result 19:59 * ShadowNinja has been spoiled by lua 20:08 Kacey ShadowNinja, i found banana trees on my recent adventure 20:08 Kacey i planted them ^_^ 20:09 PilzAdam bye 20:09 sfan5 if i use ffmpeg to record minetest with my 1st (weak) video card, it runs out of video mem and minetest doesn't display blocks 20:10 sfan5 using minemovie i can record a smooth video of minetest with my 1st video card 20:10 sfan5 like this: http://ompldr.org/vaGtzYQ/movie.mp4 20:11 sfan5 note: some quality is lost, because i converted the file so i can upload it 20:11 Kacey i cant see it... 20:12 sfan5 what? 20:13 Kacey i cannot view the movie... 20:13 sfan5 you don't have a browser plugin that supports mp4 ? 20:13 sfan5 try vlc 20:14 Kacey i use chromium 20:14 sfan5 Kacey: download the file and view it in vlc 20:15 Kacey where is the dl link? 20:16 sfan5 http://ompldr.org/iaGtzYQ 20:17 sfan5 right click "movie.mp4" select save link as.. 20:17 MinetestBot john_minetest: http://www.minetest.net/download.php Please note that it is recommend to compile Minetest yourself if you use GNU/Linux 20:18 Kacey You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins 20:18 sfan5 hm 20:18 sfan5 john_minetest: https://github.com/sfan5/minetest/tree/minemovie 20:19 sfan5 john_minetest: it only creates png's you need http://www.randelshofer.ch/monte/files/demos/MovieMaker.jar to convert them to a video file 20:19 Kacey using Parole media player 20:19 ShadowNinja ok, now [ and ] are working in formspecs, at least partialy 20:20 sfan5 it doesn't record audio yet 20:21 sfan5 also if your ram gets full and you don't press f8 minetest crashes and you lost everything 20:21 sfan5 i should add an fps limit 20:22 sfan5 less fps -> ram gets full slower 20:22 sfan5 i can record a 1000 frame movie with 4gb ram fine 20:23 sfan5 resulting video file of 1000 frames -> ~ 450 mb O.O 20:26 sfan5 thats something 20:30 * sfan5 just recorded 1700 frames and crashed the window manager 20:30 sfan5 lets try that again 20:33 sfan5 i recorded 1534 frames and forgot about the fact that rendering the images also needs ram 20:33 sfan5 lets try that again 20:35 mauvebic vanessa you might find my bridge looks like an apple store (barf) though the engineering is true to form :p 20:36 sfan5 rendering 1172 frames succeded \o/ 20:41 VanessaE mauvebic: what bridge? 20:41 mauvebic enterprises' 20:41 VanessaE OH on the ships 20:42 VanessaE well it's fine as long as it's on the 1701-prime :-) 20:42 ShadowNinja [ and ] are escaped in formspecs with &( and &) now 20:42 VanessaE you put that on the original 1701 and you're gonna have to answer for your crimes to the whole of the Star Trek fanbase ;) 20:42 mauvebic the D actually lol i made it look less "loungy" 20:42 VanessaE heh 20:43 VanessaE I wonder what the -D would look like if the timeline of Star Trek 2009 were extended into TNG's time period 20:43 mauvebic besides practically everything on the real bridge is diagonally inclined (terminals, furniture, etc. lol) 20:43 mauvebic well with the alternate time line thing they can pick up any of the series and do them better/different 20:43 VanessaE nu so lets see some screenshots alreasdy 20:44 mauvebic 6 here : http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=72509#p72509 20:44 VanessaE already there 20:45 VanessaE just grabbed all the forum threads as usual 20:45 mauvebic now that ive' laid the conduits, i gotta get pipeworks to power stuff lol 20:45 VanessaE the "retconned bridge" looks more like Engineering without the 'pool table' 20:46 mauvebic wasnt much i could do with the clearance i got on deck 1 lol 20:46 VanessaE I mean the width 20:46 VanessaE it looks like a hallway :-) 20:46 mauvebic the room is quite round but with the incline of the outer hull, it doesn't look it from the inside lol 20:46 VanessaE I don't recall the -D having a hallway behind the bridge :) 20:46 jordach there we go, i found a way to make unlimited water sources indefinitely expand 20:47 jordach *THIS ALSO GOES FOR LAVA* 20:47 VanessaE nice job on the warp drive though 20:47 mauvebic actually they never showed the whole of deck 1, seemed like the turbolifts kept changing doors every season lol 20:47 VanessaE haha 20:48 mauvebic i think even the battle bridge changed decks a few times lol so were taking some creative license here 20:48 VanessaE yeah it did actually 20:48 VanessaE deck 7 once, 13 another time I think 20:49 mauvebic i definately need to do flow booster otherwise the ship will need 4 cores evenly spread out lol 20:49 Kacey i want to see and help if i can 20:50 mauvebic meh, i dont open up my servers, FPS is low enough without having to protect against griefers and forget to do backups lol 20:51 VanessaE you should at least share .we/.wem files of your models/blueprints 20:51 * jordach installs emacs 20:51 mauvebic im thinking of either posting maps or blueprints for some of the nicer converts 20:52 OldCoder I am taking my laptop for repair but I will return later 20:52 mauvebic as for .wep i asked for samples a few times and got nothing so someone else can write the blueprint /wep converter :p 20:53 mauvebic i could prolly release cbp's and and a standalone cpp spawner 20:54 Kacey can you upload the map? 20:54 mauvebic my main map? 20:54 VanessaE yeahm why not? 20:54 VanessaE just upload it to somewhere and let people download and play in it 20:54 VanessaE no griefing that way 20:54 mauvebic jesus 20:54 mauvebic 564mb 20:55 mauvebic wonder how much that would be in zip lol 20:55 ShadowNinja formspecs arn't corrupted by [ or ] now 20:58 mauvebic zipped its 241 lol not so bad 20:59 mauvebic any reports of dblocks from ompldr today? lol 21:01 sfan5 mauvebic, VanessaE: i'm working on a binary format for worldedit schematic (without metadata) 21:01 sfan5 and now i'm going to bed 21:02 mauvebic no metas and no facedirs presumably? 21:04 mauvebic though having worked with binary formats i can tells ya: it saves spaces, but not time 21:05 mauvebic the main deal w/ large blueprints is the time it takes to add all the nodes 21:05 mauvebic and the format doesn't really matter so long as you dont load the *whole* thing to memory 21:05 sapier size is more relevant for resources transfered from server to client, e.g. models 21:06 ShadowNinja help on how I could improve this: https://github.com/ShadowNinja/minetest/compare/brackets_in_formspecs 21:08 mauvebic and weather its readable blueprints or binary ones the trick is to break up spawning into chunks (roughly a million nodes each is best) 21:16 mauvebic mind you its next to near impossible to save multimillion-node blueprints ingame 21:16 mauvebic better off using the mapper for that 21:22 Kacey ShadowNinja, is carts installed on your server? 21:27 ShadowNinja Kacey: no, and bbl 21:30 Deivan Someone please splain to me how the "chance" option work in the minetest.register_abm function... 21:31 Deivan I put decimal values, I but big values, don't is working to me... :-/ 21:31 Deivan Is a 1/n chance, correct? 21:32 VanessaE it is indeed 1/n 21:32 Kacey yes 21:32 VanessaE so lower numbers give a better chance of something happening 21:32 VanessaE interval is a measure of real-world seconds 21:33 Deivan Ok, then if I put 500 is the chance of 1 to 500 but the event is more like 100%... -.- 21:34 VanessaE 1 in 500 chance every time the ABM executes. 21:34 Deivan Using one interval of 5 I have a event in less than 30 seconds... -.- 21:34 Deivan With the value 500... 21:34 Deivan :-/ 21:34 Deivan How value I use to make a rare thing? 21:34 Deivan 1.000.000 ? 21:35 VanessaE probably an interval of around 10, chance of 10,000 21:35 VanessaE that's what I'd call rare anyway 21:35 Deivan Ok. :D 21:35 Deivan Another question, in the game API have a random generator? 21:36 Deivan Maybe I test myself the chances... 21:36 VanessaE yes https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1283 21:36 Deivan Thanks. 21:36 Deivan :) 21:37 VanessaE . 21:38 VanessaE oops 21:41 Vadtec2 hrm... pilzadam said mesecons signals are infinite...but in what im using they arent 21:41 VanessaE they are, but the game has a limit to how far it'll send a mesecons signal, because it limits how much of the map is "active" at any one time 21:42 VanessaE I think the default is 3 mapblocks from the player 21:42 Vadtec2 but its within viewing distance 21:42 VanessaE doesn't matter 21:42 VanessaE viewing distance by default is like 15 mapblocks or something 21:43 Kacey bbiab 21:43 Vadtec2 so is there a repeater that will make it extend further? 21:43 Vadtec2 or will i have to drop more powerplants around 21:43 VanessaE it's not mesecons that's the issue 21:44 VanessaE you just have to increase your active block range 21:44 Vadtec2 how do i do that? edit some code? 21:44 VanessaE naw, it's a config option 21:44 VanessaE I forget what it is offhand though 21:44 ShadowNinja active_block_range = 2 21:44 VanessaE check minetest.conf.exam....that's the one 21:45 Deivan Maybe this make your game little heavy... :D 21:45 Vadtec2 so what distance is asinine for MT? cause i wanna set it to 255 or more :P 21:45 VanessaE 255 would be insane :-) 21:45 VanessaE try setting it for 10 and hope your computer doesn't melt :D 21:45 ShadowNinja can someone look at this and offer sugestions please https://github.com/ShadowNinja/minetest/compare/brackets_in_formspecs 21:46 ShadowNinja lol 21:46 Vadtec2 my pc wont melt, though mt might 21:46 VanessaE the higher you set it, the more CPU power you'll need to compensate :) 21:46 Vadtec2 i have a liquid cooled CPU and ram block 21:46 ShadowNinja (255*16)^3 hmmm 21:46 Vadtec2 im fine :P 21:47 Vadtec2 plus i have dual 120mm fans on the case 21:47 Vadtec2 it gets quite noisy at times 21:47 Vadtec2 but its worth it 21:47 VanessaE well so your CPU will stay cool, but if all you've got under all that equipment is an anemic little Athlon........;) 21:59 Vadtec2 its a phenom x6 @ 3.2ghz 21:59 Vadtec2 it will survive 22:00 VanessaE ok :) 22:01 Kacey back 22:01 MinetestBot Welcome back Kacey! 22:09 Kacey anyone on? 22:41 MiJyn Kacey, I think we're all dead 22:41 MiJyn except for me 22:42 MiJyn I'm the only survivor of IRC silence 22:42 MiJyn I'm dying though 22:42 * Menche dies 22:42 Menche *crickets* 22:43 LMfails http://imgur.com/a/ilWJc 22:44 MiJyn Menche, sad music playing 22:44 MiJyn you know why #ubuntu has 3 floodbots, right? 22:44 MiJyn just in case anyone goes silent, it can't afford to let all those people die 22:44 MiJyn so yeah 22:45 LMfails those tops are gone now too in case you're wondering 22:45 LMfails pretty nasty looking area now 22:45 LMfails cya 22:46 Menche someone countertrolling landmine? 22:48 Kacey idk 22:49 STHGOM bye 23:11 VanessaE zzz 23:14 NekoGloop|Laptop w00t laptop 23:14 NekoGloop|Laptop :3 23:15 MiJyn haha 23:17 NekoGloop|Laptop I have to get used to having a mousepad 23:17 VanessaE no more ipad? :) 23:17 jin_xi hey all, http://ompldr.org/vaGt1cg/treegen.zip this is treegen editor and axiom generator rolled into one multitool 23:17 jin_xi needs idea for texture 23:17 NekoGloop|Laptop Still have the ipad. Just have a laptop as well 23:19 NekoGloop|Laptop And thus begins "The thousand ways to hate Windows 8" 23:19 VanessaE heh 23:19 VanessaE install Xubuntu and life will be good :-) 23:19 VanessaE all will be right with the world 23:20 Kacey lol windows 8 sux 23:20 NekoGloop|Laptop actually it's just the start menu; and that'll just take some getting used to. 23:20 Menche windows 8 doesn't have windows 23:20 Menche it's wm is all fullscreen 23:20 NekoGloop|Laptop So please excuse me if I turn my laptop off by accident. 23:23 NekoGloop|Laptop So what's everyone up to? 23:23 VanessaE nuthin' 23:23 Kacey watching youtube 23:23 VanessaE NekoGloop|Laptop: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4904 23:23 VanessaE already supported by HDX :) 23:25 MuLiSz is there a depth limit in Minetest? (sry for my english) 23:25 paxcoder does JChuckZ come around? 23:25 Menche -30912 23:25 VanessaE -30927 or some such 23:25 MuLiSz O.o 23:25 MinetestBot MuLiSz: What are you wondering about? 23:25 VanessaE (routinely, we just say +/- "31000") 23:26 MuLiSz Nothing... I'm just digging 23:26 VanessaE sfan5|OFF: aw come on, o.O does NOT mean wonder - it means confusion...please shut that damn thing up 23:26 Menche lol 23:26 MuLiSz btw thanks 23:27 paxcoder -_~ <- wonder 23:28 paxcoder i -_~ where JChuckZ is 23:28 paxcoder my cursor just transformed into a pillar. seriously o.O 23:29 MuLiSz O.o 23:29 MinetestBot MuLiSz: What are you wondering about? 23:29 * Menche hugs MinetestBot 23:29 MinetestBot Menche: :D 23:29 paxcoder MuLiSz, i'd prtscr, but on the scrsht it looks normal. *shrugs* 23:29 paxcoder i can click with the top of the pillar 23:29 paxcoder normal again 23:30 NekoGloop|Laptop paxcoder: new to text input? 23:30 paxcoder XD 23:30 paxcoder good one, i have to give you that one 23:31 paxcoder but seriously it was 4 cursors high, and i don't mean the bar. It was like a column of little pointers 23:31 paxcoder about 16 in all 23:31 NekoGloop|Laptop You cannot grasp the true form of cursor's attack! 23:32 NekoGloop|Laptop Sadly this little 15lbs laptop IS BETTER THAN MY PC. 23:32 NekoGloop|Laptop THE HELL IS THIS SHIT. >.< 23:32 VanessaE but can it handle HDX? ;) 23:32 NekoGloop|Laptop It can prolly handle HDX 128x 23:33 NekoGloop|Laptop The ultimate stress test shall come with MC. 23:34 NekoGloop|Laptop Because I'm an idiot, do 32-bit programs run on 64-bit systems? 23:34 Menche if the right libraries are installed, yes 23:36 VanessaE ouch! 512px has grown enough that I can't use it at all anymore - not enough RAM! 23:36 VanessaE (and I have 4 GB) 23:36 NekoGloop|Laptop I think I have 4 GB ram as well... Not sure. 23:38 Kacey 1gb here :( 23:38 NekoGloop|Laptop That's better, hexchat. 23:41 Menche trying to run minecraft on my netbook 23:41 Menche the start screen has low fps 23:45 Menche sloooow 23:46 Kacey lol 23:46 Menche my netbook can barely run the menu 23:46 * Menche closes minecraft and opens minetest 23:47 Kacey lol 23:47 Kacey i have the same netbook :P 23:47 Menche full FPS with almost full grahics settings, vs. low FPS on the main menu. hmm... 23:48 Menche which to play.. 23:48 FreeFull =P 23:48 FreeFull Because minecraft is java shit 23:49 Menche minecraft.net's servers are "working a bit too hard, please check back later" 23:50 NekoGloop|Laptop That reminds me, I need to set up my favorites in Chrome. 23:52 * VanessaE wonders why hardly anyone plays on her server anymore :( 23:53 NekoGloop|Laptop I'd play on it, but I'd have to a) download minetest and b) not have shit to do. 23:54 VanessaE well (a) is easy enough to solve. (b), well..that's up to you 23:55 OldCoder Hi 23:55 MinetestBot hi OldCoder 23:55 OldCoder It is nice to hear from you Mr. Bot 23:55 VanessaE wb OldCoder 23:55 NekoGloop|Laptop Hey, my laptop has the same screen resolution as my PC's monitor. 23:56 OldCoder ty VanessaE