| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
Taoki |
Menche: It's not my code, movement froze on VanessaE's server a few times |
| 00:01 |
Menche |
Taoki: I used your client to connect to my server |
| 00:01 |
Menche |
My server is plain minetest git |
| 00:01 |
Menche |
it froze instantly when I tried to move |
| 00:01 |
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| 00:02 |
Menche |
it worked fine in singleplayer |
| 00:02 |
Taoki |
Ah, yes. Because the client now takes movement parameters from the server which reads them from config file. So without the latest server, it will see all as 0 |
| 00:02 |
Taoki |
So there's no movement |
| 00:02 |
Menche |
should the protocol be bumped? |
| 00:03 |
Taoki |
Not a protocol issue I believe |
| 00:03 |
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| 00:03 |
Taoki |
Just that the new client no longe rhas the hard-coded movement values and expects them from server |
| 00:03 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: ok here's another one: Hold walk + Sprint, get up to speed. let go of walk but hold sprint. |
| 00:03 |
VanessaE |
is the current behavior intentional? |
| 00:04 |
Menche |
the clients with movement physics are mostly incompatible with normal servers |
| 00:04 |
VanessaE |
you stop almost instantly |
| 00:04 |
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| 00:04 |
Taoki |
VanessaE: Normal. Like I said, holding E causes fast acceleration to come in place |
| 00:04 |
Taoki |
Same as sliding on the ground when letting go of E which is the opposite problem |
| 00:05 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 00:05 |
VanessaE |
just pointing it out |
| 00:06 |
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| 00:09 |
Kacey |
how do i make gravity lower |
| 00:10 |
Taoki |
Kacey: You need my code. https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest/tree/movement |
| 00:10 |
VanessaE |
minetest.conf, movement_gravity = some value less than 10 |
| 00:10 |
Kacey |
i hae it |
| 00:10 |
VanessaE |
my server is at gravity of 1.6 right now |
| 00:11 |
Kacey |
it isnt changing for me :( |
| 00:11 |
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| 00:13 |
Kacey |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15_Y3_eRfOU |
| 00:14 |
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| 00:14 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE, what Ubuntu i should use? my linux gave me problems |
| 00:14 |
KikaRz |
please |
| 00:14 |
KikaRz |
fast |
| 00:14 |
KikaRz |
i need answer |
| 00:14 |
VanessaE |
I use Xubuntu 12.04 |
| 00:14 |
Kacey |
me too |
| 00:14 |
KikaRz |
that is good? |
| 00:14 |
KikaRz |
perfect? |
| 00:14 |
VanessaE |
good enough for me anyway |
| 00:14 |
KikaRz |
supports Steam? |
| 00:15 |
KikaRz |
well |
| 00:15 |
KikaRz |
going to install that |
| 00:15 |
Kacey |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UjuYtgMDIg WTF?!?! |
| 00:15 |
KikaRz |
what if i use the Xubuntu 12.10? |
| 00:16 |
Kacey |
it sux |
| 00:16 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 00:16 |
KikaRz |
Kubuntu? |
| 00:18 |
Kacey |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57mkfFdvREw&list=WL36E904F32D635E4B NekoGloop would approve |
| 00:18 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 00:18 |
KikaRz |
Can you answer me? |
| 00:18 |
KikaRz |
i dont have time |
| 00:18 |
Kacey |
idk |
| 00:18 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 00:19 |
KikaRz |
What i should install??? |
| 00:19 |
KikaRz |
Kubuntu 12.04.1? |
| 00:19 |
Kacey |
xubuntu 12.04 |
| 00:19 |
KikaRz |
I CANT! |
| 00:19 |
KikaRz |
Iso is glitched on WUBI |
| 00:19 |
KikaRz |
Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO |
| 00:20 |
KikaRz |
VanessaE |
| 00:20 |
KikaRz |
if i install 12.10 it'll change anything? |
| 00:20 |
Menche |
kubuntu just has a different desktop environment |
| 00:20 |
Menche |
kde rather than xfce |
| 00:20 |
KikaRz |
... |
| 00:20 |
Menche |
you can install the xubuntu stuff on kubuntu and vice-versa |
| 00:20 |
KikaRz |
if i install 12.10 is better or worst? |
| 00:21 |
KikaRz |
downloading ubuntu |
| 00:25 |
* Kacey |
wants to make a gravel house |
| 00:26 |
* Menche |
watches Kacey get buried |
| 00:26 |
Kacey |
i know how |
| 00:30 |
khonkhortisan |
take the brick node apart and use its mortar for the gravel |
| 00:30 |
Kacey |
naw |
| 00:31 |
Kacey |
and torches break when a sand or gravel node is above them :( |
| 00:33 |
Kacey |
lagging on my own server |
| 00:33 |
VanessaE |
just install any *ubuntu 12.04 variation, then `sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop` |
| 00:33 |
VanessaE |
that'll get you Xubuntu without the whole-disk download |
| 00:33 |
VanessaE |
(if you already have a copy of 12.04) |
| 00:33 |
rarkenin_ |
When I had been running my server, I hadn't used a GUI at all. Just Ubuntu Server with Xmonad when needed. |
| 00:39 |
Kacey |
what is xubuntu 12.04 called |
| 00:41 |
VanessaE |
Precise Pangolin |
| 00:41 |
Kacey |
k |
| 00:46 |
Kacey |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga9zC-a2LnI |
| 01:04 |
Kacey |
seems deserted.../ |
| 01:05 |
VanessaE |
*crickets* |
| 01:07 |
Kacey |
uum... http://www.youtube.com/user/cartoonhangover |
| 01:14 |
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| 01:18 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: are you online? |
| 01:18 |
VanessaE |
no :-) |
| 01:18 |
ShadowNinja |
lol |
| 01:18 |
VanessaE |
what's up? |
| 01:18 |
ShadowNinja |
I found a item duplication bug in your pipeworks mod |
| 01:18 |
VanessaE |
oh? |
| 01:18 |
mauvebic |
whats the minimum temperature for desert formation? |
| 01:18 |
VanessaE |
deserts aren't temperature-dependent |
| 01:19 |
ShadowNinja |
come on your server and I can show it to you |
| 01:19 |
VanessaE |
sure |
| 01:20 |
VanessaE |
dammit, client crashes. |
| 01:20 |
VanessaE |
-ed |
| 01:25 |
khonkhortisan |
Can I use frames and mesecons to make a wall plugin and plug something into it? |
| 01:26 |
khonkhortisan |
Or do mesecons move with the frame as soon as they touch? |
| 01:31 |
RealBadAngel |
khonkhortisan, yes, frames can move mesecons, just visual of wires is not ok |
| 01:31 |
RealBadAngel |
ShadowNinja, what bug? |
| 01:32 |
khonkhortisan |
But if I use frames to plug a wire into a wall socket, can I take it back out without the frames taking the wall with it? |
| 01:33 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=69537#p69537 |
| 01:33 |
VanessaE |
that's the bug he's referring to |
| 01:34 |
RealBadAngel |
empty frame takes with it what touches that side |
| 01:35 |
VanessaE |
...unless that frame's side has been covered by a protective panel. |
| 01:35 |
RealBadAngel |
punch the side to switch it, this side will not move other nodes |
| 01:35 |
VanessaE |
<RealBadAngel> what vanessa saod |
| 01:35 |
VanessaE |
said :D |
| 01:36 |
RealBadAngel |
hehe |
| 01:36 |
RealBadAngel |
sand pipe's bug is Nore's one |
| 01:36 |
VanessaE |
yep |
| 01:37 |
VanessaE |
already reported it |
| 01:37 |
VanessaE |
(I can't believe I'm reporting bugs against my own project :D ) |
| 01:37 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
| 01:40 |
mauvebic |
well so long as you dont start responding to yourself we dont have to worry too much :p |
| 01:40 |
mauvebic |
we have one person like that on the bus here :/ |
| 01:40 |
VanessaE |
lol |
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| 01:43 |
Kacey |
back |
| 01:43 |
mauvebic |
you know, i was thinking, for gravity, if you could attach those properties to nodes (like the protection blocks), you could have "gravity generatos" (or more importantly, antigrav gens :D) |
| 01:44 |
mauvebic |
oups *generators, generatos is the mexican version :p |
| 01:44 |
Kacey |
what is the frames for in technic? |
| 01:45 |
RealBadAngel |
youtube for redpower2 frames in minecraft |
| 01:45 |
RealBadAngel |
you will see |
| 01:45 |
Kacey |
? |
| 01:46 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAssrmRndXc |
| 01:46 |
RealBadAngel |
watch the part bout frames |
| 01:48 |
Kacey |
3 tabs of youtube open |
| 01:48 |
Kacey |
but what do they do now? |
| 01:49 |
RealBadAngel |
the same as minecraft ones |
| 01:49 |
RealBadAngel |
move stuff |
| 01:49 |
Kacey |
how do i make them move things? |
| 01:49 |
RealBadAngel |
watch the vid i posted |
| 01:49 |
Kacey |
where? |
| 01:50 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAssrmRndXc |
| 01:50 |
RealBadAngel |
mt ones work the same |
| 01:51 |
mauvebic |
weird, when i disable log output i cant save screens, launcher is on desktop |
| 01:56 |
Muadtralk |
wasn't the creator of redpower actually thinking of remaking his mod for minetest at one point? |
| 01:56 |
Muadtralk |
I was talking to some person one day and he said he was going to convert his mod to minetest |
| 01:57 |
Muadtralk |
i think it was eloraam |
| 01:57 |
Muadtralk |
or I had a really weird minetest related dream |
| 01:57 |
Muadtralk |
both are likely |
| 01:57 |
RealBadAngel |
hehe |
| 01:58 |
RealBadAngel |
eloraam is author of original one (and is she) |
| 01:59 |
RealBadAngel |
martraceur was talkin such things |
| 01:59 |
RealBadAngel |
like porting some complex mods to minetest |
| 02:00 |
Kacey |
is there a protective cover? |
| 02:00 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: sorry, the offtopic forum has gotta go. This shit is not appropriate for Minetest. |
| 02:00 |
mauvebic |
whats up on offtopic? |
| 02:00 |
VanessaE |
I've had to delete two VERY DISGUSTING threads of My Little Pony already that have no place anywhere online, much less on our forum. |
| 02:01 |
mauvebic |
my little pony? how did that degenerate? lol |
| 02:01 |
Muadtralk |
the gore one? |
| 02:01 |
mauvebic |
do i want to know? :/ |
| 02:01 |
VanessaE |
Muadtralk: two such in fact. |
| 02:01 |
Muadtralk |
no you don't |
| 02:01 |
Muadtralk |
you really really don't |
| 02:01 |
Menche |
what happened? |
| 02:01 |
Muadtralk |
yes someone get rid of the off topic section |
| 02:01 |
Muadtralk |
its a bad idea to have those |
| 02:01 |
Muadtralk |
on any forum |
| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
Menche: you do not want to know. What has been seen cannot be un-seen. |
| 02:02 |
mauvebic |
well is it just 1 peep or several perps? |
| 02:02 |
Menche |
vague description? you made me curious |
| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: two so far. |
| 02:03 |
mauvebic |
well if the rest of the content on offtopic is passable, then maybe warn or tempban those 2? |
| 02:03 |
mauvebic |
cornernote did and got the same |
| 02:03 |
mauvebic |
there is precedence <spock ears> lol |
| 02:03 |
RealBadAngel |
Kacey, punch the frame to change it,empty not protected |
| 02:03 |
mauvebic |
kitty's asleep on me but i want coffee :/ |
| 02:04 |
Muadtralk |
master the art of chair scooching |
| 02:06 |
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| 02:08 |
Kacey |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=_ME54-N-29g crazy |
| 02:11 |
mauvebic |
mmm, cake |
| 02:11 |
* mauvebic |
drools |
| 02:11 |
Kacey |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDyM6SKLt24 just get a raspberry pi lol |
| 02:15 |
Kacey |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYajjGi5-qM&feature=pyv&ad=7914006731&kw=scrum+agile huh |
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| 02:42 |
mauvebic |
http://www.zimg.eu/i/1905177547 |
| 02:43 |
Kacey |
minetest? |
| 02:43 |
mauvebic |
yep yep |
| 02:44 |
VanessaE |
nice |
| 02:44 |
mauvebic |
should be proper sale |
| 02:44 |
Kacey |
made out of what |
| 02:44 |
mauvebic |
i had this brick that matches the real thing quite nicely :) |
| 02:44 |
VanessaE |
looks like sandstone? |
| 02:44 |
mauvebic |
more like a discolored brick over a long time |
| 02:44 |
VanessaE |
no, some kind of brick? |
| 02:44 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 02:44 |
VanessaE |
very nice |
| 02:44 |
mauvebic |
fading color i think the term? |
| 02:45 |
mauvebic |
im saving the blueprint if in case people wanna use :-) |
| 02:45 |
mauvebic |
i have to write the Universal Converter lol from binvox -> blueprint -> wep |
| 02:45 |
mauvebic |
*schem |
| 02:45 |
mauvebic |
very star treky lol |
| 02:47 |
mauvebic |
i wonder if python does it faster than lua tho |
| 02:48 |
mauvebic |
holy shit |
| 02:48 |
mauvebic |
i just found a cache of nice free meshes |
| 02:48 |
RealBadAngel |
share :) |
| 02:48 |
mauvebic |
for buildings? |
| 02:49 |
mauvebic |
http://www.blender-models.com/model-downloads/architecture/ |
| 02:49 |
mauvebic |
ok some of those suck |
| 02:49 |
mauvebic |
its hard to find whole buildings |
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| 02:50 |
mauvebic |
well at least i found a mayan temple |
| 02:50 |
NakedFury |
is binvox a inside minecraft mod? |
| 02:50 |
mauvebic |
no binvox is seperate and works on win/lin and mac i think |
| 02:51 |
mauvebic |
its also GPL'ed though he offer slightly older sources |
| 02:52 |
NakedFury |
so binvox takes a model in a supported format and gives out a minecraft ready version[blueprint] for use with some world editing mods or programs for minecraft? |
| 02:52 |
mauvebic |
nooooo |
| 02:52 |
NakedFury |
and you took it and added a minetest worldedit support? |
| 02:52 |
mauvebic |
binvox takes an .obj and spits out a custom binary file |
| 02:52 |
mauvebic |
not worledit |
| 02:52 |
mauvebic |
i take the binvox and convert it to blueprint for redrawing w/ multinode |
| 02:53 |
NakedFury |
3d mesh voxelizer. I understand you but I dont see any other use for voxelized models of stuff outside a game like minecraft |
| 02:53 |
mauvebic |
meshes of ships, landmarks, statues, |
| 02:54 |
NakedFury |
in voxel grids |
| 02:54 |
NakedFury |
but its cool anyway |
| 02:54 |
mauvebic |
alot of nice meshes out there that translate nicely |
| 02:55 |
mauvebic |
and its a bit quicker than cobbling together a bunch of shapes for a similar looking but not quite ship lol |
| 02:55 |
NakedFury |
I have a similar program for sketchup but it can crash the program if its took big |
| 02:55 |
mauvebic |
well the enterprise is 725 nodes long, it doesn't spawn entirely lol |
| 02:55 |
NakedFury |
so damn big |
| 02:56 |
NakedFury |
and when you look at it it feels like the designers wasted materials |
| 02:56 |
mauvebic |
yeah so eventhough binvox blueprint does the superstructure, you still got plenty left to do inside and out lol |
| 02:56 |
mauvebic |
otherwise building everything by hand you always end up scaling down lol |
| 02:57 |
VanessaE |
sad part is when you go full-scale, those default trees start to look like little shrubs |
| 02:57 |
VanessaE |
as in jungle grass by comparison :) |
| 02:57 |
NakedFury |
yeah |
| 02:57 |
mauvebic |
well yeah most trees arent a couple of meters high lol |
| 02:57 |
NakedFury |
thats why after the new trees I feel liike the old ones just dont cut it |
| 02:57 |
NakedFury |
thats one way minetest can distance itself from just "another clone" |
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VanessaE |
NakedFury: yes. I need to make the sequoias less prevalent, and the jungle trees moreso though |
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mauvebic |
oh shit lol found a mesh for athens acropolis |
| 02:59 |
mauvebic |
i got a marble stone for that |
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| 03:03 |
NakedFury |
google warehouse also has models but they usually are only exteriors |
| 03:03 |
mauvebic |
can those be converted to .obj? |
| 03:03 |
NakedFury |
wow no idea |
| 03:03 |
NakedFury |
you got me |
| 03:06 |
mauvebic |
i got enough tabs to open to fill everything with < 10K on my map lol |
| 03:07 |
mauvebic |
MiJyn : http://www.blendswap.com/blends/view/3969 |
| 03:10 |
NakedFury |
the doctors new companion from what I see may continually keep dying in each episode |
| 03:11 |
NakedFury |
very weird way to have a new companion |
| 03:11 |
mauvebic |
while the daleks invade for 10^e time |
| 03:11 |
NakedFury |
yeah they do keep bringing them back |
| 03:12 |
mauvebic |
its also funny how when they show scenes from around the world it's the same flat with different colors and clothes lol |
| 03:12 |
NakedFury |
after a while becomes routine and nothing new |
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| 03:12 |
MiJyn |
hi all :) |
| 03:12 |
mauvebic |
its like voyager with the borg (who ended up looking like kittens) |
| 03:12 |
NakedFury |
the Doctor Who show should try to become global instead of always going to englands past |
| 03:12 |
NakedFury |
lol |
| 03:12 |
NakedFury |
borg as kitten makes a pretty image |
| 03:13 |
mauvebic |
thats the thing, they can time-travel, but it always comes back to daleks and cybermen lol |
| 03:13 |
NakedFury |
dont say that to diehard fans or they might assimilate you |
| 03:13 |
NakedFury |
daleks cybermen and now weeping angels |
| 03:13 |
mauvebic |
janeway expressions: out-ferengi the ferengi, out-think the thinktank, out-borg the borg, etc. lol |
| 03:13 |
NakedFury |
hope they stop with the angels. or that will butcher them |
| 03:14 |
NakedFury |
make one last epic showdown with daleks and remove them for a long while. there are thousands of galaxies piss of somewhere else |
| 03:14 |
NakedFury |
same with cybermen |
| 03:14 |
dimeshake |
is there any way to turn mouse senitivity down in minetest separately from the OS? |
| 03:15 |
NakedFury |
not that I know |
| 03:15 |
dimeshake |
so sensitive my hand is cramping trying to maintain precision |
| 03:15 |
NakedFury |
that would be a usefull configurable addition to the game |
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testertux |
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testertux |
NakedFury NakedFury RealBadAngel Kacey Muadtralk khonkhortisan Taoki Menche FUCK ALL YOU FAGGOTS!!!!!!! thexyz dont be dumb, you cant ban me bitch, ill be back like a glum you so fagg your mouth smells like cum, and gum is useless, im in my room drinking plum flavored rum, the best fucking player on this game, the rest are scum, why you acting tough, your in the slum, get a job you fucking bum. BIIIITCHHH!!! |
| 03:20 |
testertux |
NakedFury NakedFury RealBadAngel Kacey Muadtralk khonkhortisan Taoki Menche FUCK ALL YOU FAGGOTS!!!!!!! thexyz dont be dumb, you cant ban me bitch, ill be back like a glum you so fagg your mouth smells like cum, and gum is useless, im in my room drinking plum flavored rum, the best fucking player on this game, the rest are scum, why you acting tough, your in the slum, get a job you fucking bum. BIIIITCHHH!!! |
| 03:20 |
testertux |
NakedFury NakedFury RealBadAngel Kacey Muadtralk khonkhortisan Taoki Menche FUCK ALL YOU FAGGOTS!!!!!!! thexyz dont be dumb, you cant ban me bitch, ill be back like a glum you so fagg your mouth smells like cum, and gum is useless, im in my room drinking plum flavored rum, the best fucking player on this game, the rest are scum, why you acting tough, your in the slum, get a job you fucking bum. BIIIITCHHH!!! |
| 03:20 |
testertux |
NakedFury NakedFury RealBadAngel Kacey Muadtralk khonkhortisan Taoki Menche FUCK ALL YOU FAGGOTS!!!!!!! thexyz dont be dumb, you cant ban me bitch, ill be back like a glum you so fagg your mouth smells like cum, and gum is useless, im in my room drinking plum flavored rum, the best fucking player on this game, the rest are scum, why you acting tough, your in the slum, get a job you fucking bum. BIIIITCHHH!!! |
| 03:20 |
testertux |
NakedFury NakedFury RealBadAngel Kacey Muadtralk khonkhortisan Taoki Menche FUCK ALL YOU FAGGOTS!!!!!!! thexyz dont be dumb, you cant ban me bitch, ill be back like a glum you so fagg your mouth smells like cum, and gum is useless, im in my room drinking plum flavored rum, the best fucking player on this game, the rest are scum, why you acting tough, your in the slum, get a job you fucking bum. BIIIITCHHH!!! |
| 03:20 |
testertux |
NakedFury NakedFury RealBadAngel Kacey Muadtralk khonkhortisan Taoki Menche FUCK ALL YOU FAGGOTS!!!!!!! thexyz dont be dumb, you cant ban me bitch, ill be back like a glum you so fagg your mouth smells like cum, and gum is useless, im in my room drinking plum flavored rum, the best fucking player on this game, the rest are scum, why you acting tough, your in the slum, get a job you fucking bum. BIIIITCHHH!!! |
| 03:20 |
testertux |
NakedFury NakedFury RealBadAngel Kacey Muadtralk khonkhortisan Taoki Menche FUCK ALL YOU FAGGOTS!!!!!!! thexyz dont be dumb, you cant ban me bitch, ill be back like a glum you so fagg your mouth smells like cum, and gum is useless, im in my room drinking plum flavored rum, the best fucking player on this game, the rest are scum, why you acting tough, your in the slum, get a job you fucking bum. BIIIITCHHH!!! |
| 03:20 |
testertux |
NakedFury NakedFury RealBadAngel Kacey Muadtralk khonkhortisan Taoki Menche FUCK ALL YOU FAGGOTS!!!!!!! thexyz dont be dumb, you cant ban me bitch, ill be back like a glum you so fagg your mouth smells like cum, and gum is useless, im in my room drinking plum flavored rum, the best fucking player on this game, the rest are scum, why you acting tough, your in the slum, get a job you fucking bum. BIIIITCHHH!!! |
| 03:20 |
testertux |
NakedFury NakedFury RealBadAngel Kacey Muadtralk khonkhortisan Taoki Menche FUCK ALL YOU FAGGOTS!!!!!!! thexyz dont be dumb, you cant ban me bitch, ill be back like a glum you so fagg your mouth smells like cum, and gum is useless, im in my room drinking plum flavored rum, the best fucking player on this game, the rest are scum, why you acting tough, your in the slum, get a job you fucking bum. BIIIITCHHH!!! |
| 03:20 |
testertux |
NakedFury NakedFury RealBadAngel Kacey Muadtralk khonkhortisan Taoki Menche FUCK ALL YOU FAGGOTS!!!!!!! thexyz dont be dumb, you cant ban me bitch, ill be back like a glum you so fagg your mouth smells like cum, and gum is useless, im in my room drinking plum flavored rum, the best fucking player on this game, the rest are scum, why you acting tough, your in the slum, get a job you fucking bum. BIIIITCHHH!!! |
| 03:20 |
testertux |
NakedFury NakedFury RealBadAngel Kacey Muadtralk khonkhortisan Taoki Menche FUCK ALL YOU FAGGOTS!!!!!!! thexyz dont be dumb, you cant ban me bitch, ill be back like a glum you so fagg your mouth smells like cum, and gum is useless, im in my room drinking plum flavored rum, the best fucking player on this game, the rest are scum, why you acting tough, your in the slum, get a job you fucking bum. BIIIITCHHH!!! |
| 03:20 |
testertux |
NakedFury NakedFury RealBadAngel Kacey Muadtralk khonkhortisan Taoki Menche FUCK ALL YOU FAGGOTS!!!!!!! thexyz dont be dumb, you cant ban me bitch, ill be back like a glum you so fagg your mouth smells like cum, and gum is useless, im in my room drinking plum flavored rum, the best fucking player on this game, the rest are scum, why you acting tough, your in the slum, get a job you fucking bum. BIIIITCHHH!!! |
| 03:20 |
testertux |
NakedFury NakedFury RealBadAngel Kacey Muadtralk khonkhortisan Taoki Menche FUCK ALL YOU FAGGOTS!!!!!!! thexyz dont be dumb, you cant ban me bitch, ill be back like a glum you so fagg your mouth smells like cum, and gum is useless, im in my room drinking plum flavored rum, the best fucking player on this game, the rest are scum, why you acting tough, your in the slum, get a job you fucking bum. BIIIITCHHH!!! |
| 03:20 |
testertux |
NakedFury NakedFury RealBadAngel Kacey Muadtralk khonkhortisan Taoki Menche FUCK ALL YOU FAGGOTS!!!!!!! thexyz dont be dumb, you cant ban me bitch, ill be back like a glum you so fagg your mouth smells like cum, and gum is useless, im in my room drinking plum flavored rum, the best fucking player on this game, the rest are scum, why you acting tough, your in the slum, get a job you fucking bum. BIIIITCHHH!!! |
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| 03:20 |
Menche |
whoa |
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| 03:20 |
mauvebic |
like clockwork almost |
| 03:20 |
RealBadAngel |
....webchat :P |
| 03:21 |
khonkhortisan |
how'd I get in there? |
| 03:21 |
Menche |
my computer suddenly started beeping like mad |
| 03:21 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: because you were probably merely present the last time he went looking for people to bitch at. |
| 03:21 |
khonkhortisan |
so did mine, but for a different reason |
| 03:22 |
Menche |
...he's bad at poetry |
| 03:22 |
mauvebic |
i can sing three little maids |
| 03:22 |
mauvebic |
people still love my Yum Yum |
| 03:22 |
NakedFury |
I guess next person to join is the same user |
| 03:22 |
NakedFury |
im gonna bet 5 mese crystals |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
who knows. |
| 03:23 |
NakedFury |
new strange name? I win bet |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
I'm seriously getting tired of that shit. |
| 03:23 |
mauvebic |
who doesn't want you banning webchat then? |
| 03:23 |
NakedFury |
we are too nice to take the necessary measures |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
Nekogloop uses it, kaeza too |
| 03:24 |
NakedFury |
by we I mean the ops |
| 03:24 |
VanessaE |
I forget who else |
| 03:24 |
mauvebic |
well i registered my nick after the last spam attack, i figured its a matter of time |
| 03:24 |
VanessaE |
noticed there were two class A's in there. |
| 03:25 |
VanessaE |
may as well nail both. |
| 03:25 |
NakedFury |
make an announcement on forums for a time when webchats will be blocked |
| 03:25 |
VanessaE |
I think that will need consensus from several of us. |
| 03:25 |
VanessaE |
personally I'm in favor of it. |
| 03:25 |
NakedFury |
should be easy to vote yes when we get this fucking bastards here |
| 03:26 |
NakedFury |
provide links for several free irc programs and block webchats. at least that should give some breathing room |
| 03:26 |
mauvebic |
why cant the few users who use webchat not get a client? |
| 03:26 |
mauvebic |
are they using library computers or ? |
| 03:26 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: agreed. |
| 03:26 |
VanessaE |
it takes almost no effort to get a real IRC client |
| 03:27 |
NakedFury |
I see 2 reasons. not their pc or lazy |
| 03:27 |
mauvebic |
mirc weights what, 2mb? |
| 03:27 |
Muadtralk |
I can direct them to a different webchat |
| 03:27 |
NakedFury |
hexchat is free for both linux and windows |
| 03:27 |
NakedFury |
its also comes in 32 and 64 bits flavor |
| 03:27 |
Muadtralk |
I know neko actually can't spare the space to have a IRC client on his computer |
| 03:27 |
mauvebic |
if its not their PC, then i imagine they got permission to install minetest, so getting permission to install an IRC client should be easy |
| 03:27 |
VanessaE |
Muadtralk: maybe what we need is a webchat that's specific to this channel (and relatives) - a whitelisted one I mean |
| 03:27 |
Muadtralk |
maybe |
| 03:28 |
mauvebic |
cant spare the space? lol |
| 03:28 |
mauvebic |
they dont takeup 100's of mbs |
| 03:28 |
VanessaE |
what, 5MB for an IRC client? |
| 03:28 |
VanessaE |
pft |
| 03:28 |
Muadtralk |
5mb they didn't need to spare |
| 03:28 |
mauvebic |
well ianno what, if they cant use webchat and wont install a rudimentary irc client, then there's always the forums (too bad) |
| 03:29 |
VanessaE |
and even if they did, HD space is cheap. |
| 03:29 |
VanessaE |
when 2TB costs less than $100, who cares HOW much HD space it takes :-) |
| 03:29 |
mauvebic |
stubbornness over not wanting to install an irc client isn't worth all the extra work for you guys lol |
| 03:32 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 03:32 |
VanessaE |
hey pot, meet kettle ;) |
| 03:32 |
mauvebic |
i have irc client, and registered nick lol |
| 03:32 |
VanessaE |
nono the stubbornness ;-) |
| 03:33 |
mauvebic |
true but not over the same things lol |
| 03:33 |
mauvebic |
but seriously its such a non-effort to get a decent irc client lol |
| 03:33 |
* VanessaE |
screws with her cat, making it chase the mouse pointed around |
| 03:34 |
mauvebic |
hehe mine likes box rides |
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mauvebic |
howdy gambit, any troubles tonight? |
| 03:38 |
VanessaE |
Gambit: I predict you have, had, or will have a flooder spouting off every imaginable slur in the book in one, repeating post. |
| 03:38 |
VanessaE |
(we just had.) |
| 03:38 |
mauvebic |
hehe i thought that might be why he's here lol |
| 03:39 |
mauvebic |
perhaps we could find <unmentionable>'s parents and convince them to get an abortion? |
| 03:39 |
VanessaE |
got a TARDIS handy? |
| 03:40 |
NakedFury |
see we need drastic meassures or we keep beeing blasted with negative promotion by some ass |
| 03:41 |
mauvebic |
even if we bam hin here he can still go there |
| 03:41 |
mauvebic |
*ban him |
| 03:41 |
mauvebic |
and make a name for us |
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NakedFury |
its getting ridiculous |
| 03:41 |
mauvebic |
has he been discussed with ircops? they powerless? |
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NakedFury |
the most hard option we can do is to need registered nicks to enter and a whitelist. forum registered people or people we know ARE NOT trolls, like gambit and others from other games but that visit here can enter whitout problem. others need to join forum and ask for whitelist. |
| 03:45 |
NakedFury |
too much managing but it will help 100% the situation |
| 03:45 |
mauvebic |
banning webchat would be less drastic than that |
| 03:46 |
Menche |
what would banning webchat do if he has a client? |
| 03:46 |
NakedFury |
this option would be a last last resort |
| 03:46 |
mauvebic |
from what i can tell he seems to be coming at us from webchat w/ proxies |
| 03:47 |
Menche |
banning webchat would make proxies harder? |
| 03:47 |
mauvebic |
i dont know lol whats your solution? |
| 03:47 |
Menche |
suppose i can't come up with anything else |
| 03:47 |
Menche |
anything better |
| 03:47 |
mauvebic |
otherwise its making the IRC bot smart enough to pick up on his crap and sort him out |
| 03:47 |
sokomine |
tardis? no. but i made my travelnet-box look roughly similar to an old type of german telephone cell. and: you can teleport away. does that count? :-) |
| 03:48 |
sokomine |
(time travel has not been observed yet :)) |
| 03:48 |
Menche |
a bot that can pick out bad words and detect flooding? |
| 03:48 |
mauvebic |
yeah |
| 03:49 |
brandy |
Does anyone know how i can find the craft recipe for the black roads? |
| 03:49 |
NakedFury |
say the mod name so we can help |
| 03:49 |
mauvebic |
x many posts from nick < n seconds = kick/ban |
| 03:49 |
mauvebic |
add a filter for certain words and nicks and autokick those too |
| 03:49 |
NakedFury |
land+mine+any other word or number = ban |
| 03:50 |
NakedFury |
user says: I am landmine =ban |
| 03:50 |
brandy |
sorry, i dont know what its called, i saw the road on another server but it isnt in our craft guide here so idk, sorry |
| 03:50 |
mauvebic |
well lately he's using test alot in his names |
| 03:50 |
mauvebic |
and using variations of established names |
| 03:50 |
NakedFury |
he always tips his hand by saying im landmine or something similar |
| 03:50 |
mauvebic |
brandy, modern roads? |
| 03:50 |
VanessaE |
brandy, that's the Streets mod, you saw it on my server |
| 03:51 |
VanessaE |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2984 |
| 03:51 |
brandy |
that might be it, they are black and have the white line in one of them |
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thexyz |
testertux, i love you too |
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brandy |
thats probably the one then, i remember seeing it, i just couldnt remember where |
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brandy |
ok ty Vanessa |
| 03:55 |
VanessaE |
sure thing |
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Muadtralk |
nakedfury do you anyone who hates you in particular? |
| 04:10 |
Muadtralk |
because testertux uses your name twice but everyone elses only once |
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mauvebic |
lol what an odd question |
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Muadtralk |
IIRC |
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NakedFury |
well I dont know |
| 04:11 |
NakedFury |
not that I would care anyway |
| 04:11 |
Muadtralk |
a mother in law |
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khonkhortisan |
All my enemies are in real life, not online |
| 04:11 |
Muadtralk |
same here |
| 04:12 |
mauvebic |
i dont have real life enemies, just people that annoy me irl lol |
| 04:12 |
Muadtralk |
enough people want me dead :P |
| 04:12 |
VanessaE |
brb |
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mauvebic |
well there was that guy that took me to court, but i won in the end so you could say i defeated my enemies lol |
| 04:13 |
Muadtralk |
anyone else love that quit message? |
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ItsPrimetime |
Oh man, so much spam over in #minecraft |
| 04:48 |
ItsPrimetime |
Some people are spamming a bunch of shit to us in your name |
| 04:48 |
Menche |
who? |
| 04:49 |
ItsPrimetime |
http://i.imgur.com/xdK1ueI.png |
| 04:49 |
ItsPrimetime |
A bunch of people under different names |
| 04:49 |
ItsPrimetime |
Or the same person who is good at ban evasion |
| 04:49 |
Menche |
we've had one person repeatedly spamming us here too |
| 04:50 |
khonkhortisan |
the same way |
| 04:50 |
Menche |
catch his IP? |
| 04:50 |
Menche |
listed all the people's names? thats how he spammed us |
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Muadtralk |
yep that looks like the same person |
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Muadtralk |
(10:20:26 PM) testertux: NakedFury NakedFury RealBadAngel Kacey Muadtralk khonkhortisan Taoki Menche FUCK ALL YOU FAGGOTS!!!!!!! thexyz dont be dumb, you cant ban me bitch, ill be back like a glum you so fagg your mouth smells like cum, and gum is useless, im in my room drinking plum flavored rum, the best fucking player on this game, the rest are scum, why you acting tough, your in the slum, get a job you fucking bum. BIIIITCHHH!!! |
| 04:52 |
Muadtralk |
a example of his work for comparison friend from #minecraft |
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mauvebic |
dont think we need the minutes on that meeting :p |
| 04:53 |
NakedFury |
at times like this I hate whoever invented a way to bypass ip or whatever it is they do |
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ItsPrimetime |
Yeah we had that same message |
| 04:53 |
khonkhortisan |
they're wrong for 23/24 of the people that see it |
| 04:53 |
khonkhortisan |
no wait, never mind |
| 04:55 |
khonkhortisan |
what does that do? |
| 04:55 |
mauvebic |
burns him on the temple grounds: http://www.zimg.eu/i/201322546 |
| 04:55 |
mauvebic |
trolls will henceforth be sacrificed to the gods here |
| 04:56 |
mauvebic |
:p |
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khonkhortisan |
nice, but doesn't look climbable |
| 04:56 |
thexyz |
temporary measure |
| 04:56 |
mauvebic |
plenty of room inside for scaffolding lol |
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khonkhortisan |
I keep expecting that sun to move |
| 04:56 |
mauvebic |
well i heard the mayans dig the sun lol |
| 04:57 |
thexyz |
khonkhortisan: mutes all unregistered users |
| 04:57 |
mauvebic |
i saw that coming lol did it this morning |
| 04:57 |
khonkhortisan |
My guess was only allows registered users to join |
| 05:00 |
Menche |
someone just spammed #minecraft again |
| 05:00 |
Menche |
username "mroman" |
| 05:00 |
Menche |
landmine = misael roman |
| 05:00 |
mauvebic |
i was somehow think roman polanski lol |
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thexyz |
khonkhortisan: that's +r |
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VanessaE |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=69555#p69555 |
| 05:15 |
VanessaE |
moretrees leaf decay! |
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Menche |
so landmine starts spamming #minecraft in our name... |
| 05:30 |
VanessaE |
so it would seem. |
| 05:30 |
VanessaE |
but they are aware now that his trolling is not connected to us |
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Oblivion1500 |
i just found Jesus in a computer, http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1050553&cm_sp=DIY_PC_Combos-_-1050553-_-Combo |
| 06:47 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 06:48 |
VanessaE |
$3600 bucks? shit on a shingle |
| 06:48 |
Oblivion1500 |
that would make your game run smooth with 50 plus clients |
| 06:49 |
VanessaE |
and that's only a 2.0 GHz CPU |
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Oblivion1500 |
with six core's... |
| 06:50 |
VanessaE |
my machine is 6-cores, 2.6 GHz. cost me about $600 or something. |
| 06:50 |
VanessaE |
(Phenom II X6, 4GB RAM, 60 GB SSD, ATI HD6870 video. decent system) |
| 06:50 |
VanessaE |
evening OldCoder |
| 06:51 |
Oblivion1500 |
i didnt say yours was bad... but i can clearly see this one is alot faster.. |
| 06:51 |
Oblivion1500 |
with 24 gigs |
| 06:51 |
VanessaE |
perhaps |
| 06:52 |
VanessaE |
it's a monster system to be sure, but my point is you can probably get it for half that price if you build it yourself. |
| 06:52 |
Oblivion1500 |
i saw this,, i kinda want to buy it but not to sure.. seems good, http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1171229 |
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Oblivion1500 |
and at a really fair price |
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thexyz |
amd sux |
| 06:54 |
Oblivion1500 |
hard drive is small but i can get another one |
| 06:54 |
VanessaE |
much better price. |
| 06:55 |
Oblivion1500 |
also made for linux :) |
| 06:55 |
VanessaE |
specs seem good too |
| 06:56 |
Oblivion1500 |
let me save the money for it and i will turn it into a nice server |
| 06:56 |
Oblivion1500 |
oldcoder: what are your severs running on? |
| 06:56 |
VanessaE |
he runs them on an Amazon AWS instance |
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OldCoder |
Hi |
| 06:57 |
VanessaE |
hah there he is now :-) |
| 06:57 |
Oblivion1500 |
would mine be faster on that system do you think? |
| 06:57 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, Not any longer |
| 06:57 |
VanessaE |
no? |
| 06:57 |
OldCoder |
Oblivion1500, It depends |
| 06:57 |
OldCoder |
Oblivion1500, For a Micro instance no |
| 06:57 |
OldCoder |
Oblivion1500, For a Medium instance probably |
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OldCoder |
VanessaE, Can't afford it so just left |
| 06:58 |
OldCoder |
Oblivion1500, Hi |
| 06:58 |
VanessaE |
understood |
| 06:58 |
Oblivion1500 |
hey |
| 06:58 |
Oblivion1500 |
so what are you running it on? |
| 06:58 |
OldCoder |
Oblivion1500, A new VPS that I am testing out. If it works I can refer you to the host. |
| 06:59 |
Oblivion1500 |
im looking for a stand alone, going to do something nice with it |
| 06:59 |
Oblivion1500 |
dont know what it its going to be exatly. but im going to prifit |
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Oblivion1500 |
i might just get a group of people together to make some easy do something awesome website then profit from ads becase it would be free :) |
| 07:01 |
VanessaE |
ok, time for me to head off to bed. |
| 07:01 |
VanessaE |
night all. |
| 07:01 |
Oblivion1500 |
night |
| 07:01 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: moretrees, homedecor updated. You may also be interested in my fork of pilzadam/thexyz's signs mod. |
| 07:02 |
VanessaE |
(see the forums for info) |
| 07:02 |
VanessaE |
out --> |
| 07:03 |
OldCoder |
I am, yes... Things are being sorted out |
| 07:03 |
OldCoder |
Remind me in a couple of days if I don't update the first two |
| 07:03 |
OldCoder |
The immediate goal is to stabilize things |
| 07:04 |
OldCoder |
Everything is on new VPS(es) |
| 07:04 |
Oblivion1500 |
did you just transfer? |
| 07:07 |
OldCoder |
The past week |
| 07:08 |
OldCoder |
In stages |
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OldCoder |
Well, a couple of hops |
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Oblivion1500 |
it seems to be running nice |
| 07:08 |
OldCoder |
Glad to hear it |
| 07:08 |
OldCoder |
Hosting firm has expressed interest in how well it runs |
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Oblivion1500 |
nice |
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EduardeCalibal |
Hello. After put the cart in a trail I don't have how get it back to the inventory? |
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ruskie |
dig it? |
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EduardeCalibal |
When I dig I punsh it... |
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EduardeCalibal |
Have a tool to dig the cart? |
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Octupus |
hi |
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Octupus |
Hi |
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iqualfragile |
hi Octupus |
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pskosinski |
Let give him boots, and send him to North Korea! |
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Kacey |
hi |
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Kacey |
aah registered nicks only? |
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Octupus |
Hi Kacey |
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Kacey |
hi |
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Matsetes |
Are there nodes that blocks the light? |
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Octupus |
except fo r glass |
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Matsetes |
Ah, there are no nodes that block it better? |
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Octupus |
all blocks except for glass block light |
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Matsetes |
Ok, but one block of dirt not block it completerly |
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Matsetes |
You can perceive it |
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Calinou |
http://xkcd.com/1172/ -- true story |
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Calinou |
hi |
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Calinou |
^ how I feel with the new mese :P |
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VanessaE |
Calinou: hah |
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VanessaE |
morning all |
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VanessaE |
how true though |
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Octupus |
Hi VanessaE |
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VanessaE |
hi |
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Octupus |
Everything so quite today |
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Octupus |
i dont like it |
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Octupus |
xD |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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EduardeCalibal |
Well... I added "attached_node=1" to the apple object in the default mod then now I have applets falling off when the tree is cut off, is the correct form of implementation? |
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VanessaE |
that's how I did it in moretrees. |
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EduardeCalibal |
Nice. |
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EduardeCalibal |
:) |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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dimeshake |
hmm. locked signs and teleporters can be removed/separated from their node by dropping sand on them |
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EduardeCalibal |
Somenon know how remove the mine cart from the trail? |
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VanessaE |
EduardeCalibal: shift left click |
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* VanessaE |
puts a kitten on Jordach's head |
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Jordach |
hey VanessaE |
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* Jordach |
is ripping music at 1500kbps |
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VanessaE |
may as well go with FLAC at that rate :-) |
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dimeshake |
^^ |
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VanessaE |
jk |
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Jordach |
VanessaE, .wav |
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dimeshake |
no kidding at all |
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VanessaE |
use FLAC, it's lossless. |
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dimeshake |
and compressed |
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Jordach |
VanessaE, can i has worldedit? |
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VanessaE |
WAV is so 1990's :-) |
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dimeshake |
smaller than wav, lossless quality |
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EduardeCalibal |
Thanks VanessaE. :D |
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VanessaE |
Jordach: no. |
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Jordach |
then could you? |
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VanessaE |
but I'll go take care of it for you if you need |
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PilzAdam |
marktraceur isnt back yet? |
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Jordach |
nope |
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VanessaE |
Jordach: lagging.. it'll be back |
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* Jordach |
has noticed my stacks are infinite |
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* Jordach |
requires new build for physics |
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VanessaE |
fuck it. server restarted. |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam, can you make a win32 physics build? |
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PilzAdam |
yep |
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VanessaE |
Jordach: done and grass laid out. your turn. :-) |
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* Jordach |
finds a WE bug and //set air from -31000, -31000, -31000 to 31000, 31000, 31000 |
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rubenwardy |
hi all |
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VanessaE |
hey ruben |
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PilzAdam |
rubenwardy, posting a "+1" on every single pull request isnt really helpful |
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PilzAdam |
new win32 gettext build of Taoki's movement branch: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=65717 |
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PilzAdam |
^ Jordach |
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* Jordach |
will miss Direct3D |
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rubenwardy |
no, it probably is not... |
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* Jordach |
pokes thexyz_ to make a MSVC build of Taoki's branch |
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* PilzAdam |
takes Direct3D and puts it on Jordach's head |
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* john_minetest |
puts a Direct3D-Rendered kitten on Jordach's head |
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Jordach |
VanessaE, FUUUU |
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VanessaE |
? |
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Jordach |
Downloading Media... |
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VanessaE |
lol |
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VanessaE |
the sad part is I'm about to restart the server in ~5 mins to update moretrees :D |
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* Jordach |
slaps VanessaE with "NO!" |
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rubenwardy |
VanessaE: you need to uninstall the hd pack on your server |
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VanessaE |
I don't use HDX on the server. |
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rubenwardy |
it adds a lot to the download times... |
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PilzAdam |
VanessaE, set up a cURL accesable server |
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Jordach |
so, has *anyone* came to the conclusion of a new OP? |
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VanessaE |
PilzAdam: no. Fix the server code so that it doesn't need a stupid third-party, out-of-engine web server. |
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Jordach |
just use TCP / HTTP you lazt bastards |
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Jordach |
lazy* |
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Calinou |
Jordach: downloaded cache is used if you connect to the server again |
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PilzAdam |
I suggest the person with the highest # of posts codes this :-p |
| 16:49 |
Calinou |
makes downloading faster |
| 16:50 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: that's Jordach. |
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Calinou |
VanessaE: say that to john carmack |
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VanessaE |
he outranks me by roughly 2:1 |
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iqualfragile |
ühm… why do the work multiple times? |
| 16:50 |
Calinou |
not capping upload rate for mod download can congest home servers' upload bandwidth |
| 16:50 |
iqualfragile |
thats nonsense |
| 16:50 |
iqualfragile |
there are a lot of webservers out there |
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thexyz |
Jordach: me too lazy |
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thexyz |
Jordach: me no want do builds =( |
| 16:50 |
Calinou |
it is capped at 5kB/sec or so for a reason, but I'd rather set 25kB/sec by default |
| 16:50 |
Calinou |
(just like warsow does for from-server downloads) |
| 16:51 |
* Jordach |
is seemingly the only person with enough freetime to keep working on minetest |
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* Jordach |
also wishes that i knew c++ better |
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iqualfragile |
if you dont want apache or sth just use python -m SimpleHTTPServer |
| 16:52 |
Calinou |
Jordach: me too? and a lot of other people |
| 16:52 |
Calinou |
sudo apt-get install apache |
| 16:52 |
Calinou |
move your shit to /var/www |
| 16:52 |
Calinou |
??? |
| 16:52 |
Calinou |
PROFIT |
| 16:52 |
Calinou |
(or nginx or any other web server, I like nginx more) |
| 16:52 |
thexyz |
because apache sux |
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iqualfragile |
mkdir shit |
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iqualfragile |
mv stuff shit/ |
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iqualfragile |
cd shit |
| 16:53 |
iqualfragile |
python -m SimpleHTTPServer & |
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iqualfragile |
done |
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Calinou |
isn't python simple HTTP server slow? |
| 16:53 |
Calinou |
if you run a large server it's probably not a good idea to use it |
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Matsetes |
Hi, does somebody uses the unified inventory of RBA? |
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VanessaE |
Matsetes: I do. |
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Matsetes |
Do I stil need craft guide, bags and set home mod installed if I install it? VanessaE |
| 17:02 |
VanessaE |
no. |
| 17:02 |
VanessaE |
UI covers all of those. |
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VanessaE |
it supersedes them. |
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iqualfragile |
Calinou: webservers generaly dont put a great load on your machine, and its just serving statical content, isnt it? |
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Calinou |
yes |
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iqualfragile |
i dont see a problem there |
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Matsetes |
Thx VanessaE |
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VanessaE |
Jordach: it's up and ready now. Now with leaf decay. |
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VanessaE |
more updates to moretrees today |
| 17:26 |
VanessaE |
the aforementioned leaf decay, and now apples can optionally fall to the ground. |
| 17:27 |
Matsetes |
VanessaE: does the UI works with specialties mod? |
| 17:28 |
VanessaE |
Not sure |
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VanessaE |
I've never used that mod. |
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Matsetes |
And the nodex mode will work with other objects? |
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VanessaE |
no idea |
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VanessaE |
celeron55: please get rid of the Offtopic forum. |
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Jordach |
...and? just leave it as un-moderated |
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VanessaE |
let's see - a massive snog in a GoDaddy commercial, two horrible (as in, sadistic) My Little Pony fanfics, favorite guns thread, worst injury ever... |
| 17:47 |
VanessaE |
come on people this shit does NOT belong on the minetest forums! |
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PilzAdam |
VanessaE, +1 |
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Calinou |
"it's offtopic" |
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Jordach |
finally, someone who agrees with me |
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VanessaE |
offtopic is fine until it starts becoming just plain gross, sadistic, offensive to someone as liberal as me. |
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Jordach |
*liberal* |
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VanessaE |
(I use that phrase because I dare say I'm about as weird and non-prudish as it gets) |
| 17:53 |
Jordach |
in other news: How do you feel about the gov't allowing Drone strikes on American civilians? |
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VanessaE |
I hate it. |
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Jordach |
john_minetest, HALL OF SHAME |
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Jordach |
where "bad offtopics" go to burn and all posts in it |
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VanessaE |
hey RBA |
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Jordach |
trolling time: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=69210#p69210 |
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Jordach |
anything MLP needs HALL OF SHAMING |
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VanessaE |
john_minetest: when it offends a reasonable, not-easily-offended person, it should be removed. |
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Jordach |
VanessaE, trolling time on these topics engaged |
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VanessaE |
heh |
| 17:56 |
Jordach |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=69679#p69679 |
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Calinou |
VanessaE: like "new KDE release" threads, for GNOME users? or not? |
| 17:57 |
VanessaE |
OOPS! |
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Jordach |
VanessaE, what was +g |
| 17:57 |
VanessaE |
it was an attempt to look at a particular user's modes |
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OldCoder |
Hello |
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Jordach |
IRC NOOB ALARM |
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Jordach |
hey OldCoder |
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OldCoder |
Yeh |
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Jordach |
what did rba do this time? |
| 17:59 |
VanessaE |
beats me, he says he can't chat |
| 17:59 |
VanessaE |
("cannot send to channel") |
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Jordach |
john_minetest,my post updated |
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khonkhortisan |
test1 |
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khonkhortisan2 |
test2 |
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testircbull |
lets mine the test until the test mines us |
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Jordach |
it works |
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Calinou |
lol, the spammer phrase |
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* Jordach |
trolls again: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=69483#p69483 |
| 18:02 |
VanessaE |
/echo -a $nick(#channelname,NICK).pnick |
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VanessaE |
oops |
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* Jordach |
pokes VanessaE |
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VanessaE |
sigh |
| 18:02 |
VanessaE |
how do I view someone's user modes? |
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khonkhortisan |
/say /say |
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Jordach |
VanessaE, google |
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* Calinou |
googles "Jordach's user modes" |
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Calinou |
https://startpage.com/do/search?query=Jordach's+user+modes |
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Calinou |
lol |
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dimeshake |
rock rocks |
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Taoki |
http://d.facdn.net/art/kitnip/1360598383.kitnip_snow_creeper.png This pretty epic :) |
| 18:16 |
NakedFury |
yes it is. Taoki on your movement physics update did you think about adding an ice slipping movement? |
| 18:17 |
Taoki |
NakedFury: No. Ice doesn't even exist yet by default |
| 18:17 |
Taoki |
But it can easily be done by simply having a very small acceleration value. Maybe later on LUA will be able to do this for mods... but not right now |
| 18:17 |
NakedFury |
ok |
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PilzAdam |
Taoki, add something like friction to the nodedef in Lua |
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PilzAdam |
btw: I have compiled your branch for windows |
| 18:18 |
Taoki |
I'll think about it for later, and another branch |
| 18:18 |
Taoki |
awesome |
| 18:18 |
NakedFury |
I can see ice slipping player movement and maybe later also other blocks that can act to slow players too, like walking on sand or running on it |
| 18:18 |
Taoki |
It's up for pull request since I finished it. Was going to poke you about testing it and merging upstream if it's ok |
| 18:19 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: We played with low gravity and other things on this branch last night on VanessaE's server, and it was fun. Fixed all bugs that were reported and it should be ok now |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
Taoki: can you change friction with your movement vars now? |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
I forgot |
| 18:20 |
Taoki |
Yes. In minetest.conf, and it requires the server to restart (can't be changed in realtime) |
| 18:22 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: please merge that along with RBA's fix to builtin/item.lua (or yours), and my textures for minetest_game that have been waiting forever. |
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Taoki |
yay new textures |
| 18:25 |
Taoki |
I like the current ones, but new visual improvements are welcome too |
| 18:25 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: nothing special, just smoothed out wood, better steel, and I forget what the other one was. |
| 18:26 |
Taoki |
ok. What MineTest needs a lot are better sounds I think (as well as new ones for new things). Was thinking of giving a try at that |
| 18:31 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, I dont like your textures |
| 18:32 |
rubenwardy |
I have a feeling that this is bullshit: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=69357#p69357 |
| 18:32 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: ok. you coulda told me that a month ago. |
| 18:32 |
VanessaE |
wait, wrong one |
| 18:33 |
VanessaE |
sigh |
| 18:33 |
rubenwardy |
I also have a feeling that this is also bullshit: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=69642#p69642 |
| 18:33 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: I told you $~* would catch too many false positives. |
| 18:33 |
PilzAdam |
rubenwardy, I have the feeling that this is bullshit: http://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_posts&user_id=3972 |
| 18:34 |
rubenwardy |
true |
| 18:34 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, but the decision whether the textures are added doesnt depend on me |
| 18:34 |
PilzAdam |
GitHub is just the wrong place to suggest them |
| 18:35 |
VanessaE |
er, where else then if not a pull request? |
| 18:35 |
PilzAdam |
there is this thing called forum |
| 18:36 |
PilzAdam |
it has a nice poll function |
| 18:36 |
VanessaE |
er... that's a terrible place to suggest new textures. |
| 18:36 |
VanessaE |
but whatever |
| 18:37 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: so? |
| 18:38 |
thexyz |
I'm fine without $~a as long as you are always online to kickban LM |
| 18:38 |
VanessaE |
well, your idea boots out something like 75% of all IRC users |
| 18:39 |
VanessaE |
I think it would be better to just ban the webchat interface, fewer use than than unregistered nicks |
| 18:39 |
VanessaE |
(or quiet it) |
| 18:39 |
PilzAdam |
the webchat is linked everywhere |
| 18:39 |
thexyz |
ok, fine |
| 18:40 |
thexyz |
do as you wish |
| 18:40 |
Calinou |
<offtopic> here's some sound-less trackmania video: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/82342922/misc/tm.webm ; first one to figure out how to record sound gets a video with sound </offtopic> |
| 18:40 |
thexyz |
I'm not stopping you from unmuting $~a |
| 18:40 |
* Calinou |
knows he can record audio at the same time then stick audio and video with openshot, but it's not the most convenient way to do it :D |
| 18:41 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, I dislike the idea to ban a lot of people because they might be LM |
| 18:42 |
Calinou |
have to go, bai |
| 18:42 |
VanessaE |
agreed. |
| 18:42 |
VanessaE |
ban based on action, not based on probability |
| 18:42 |
PilzAdam |
^ |
| 18:43 |
thexyz |
fine |
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rubenwardy |
how about you filter all names beginning with land? |
| 18:49 |
VanessaE |
wouldn't work |
| 18:49 |
VanessaE |
he's been using other unrelated named lately |
| 18:49 |
VanessaE |
testbox and so forth |
| 18:52 |
NekoGloop |
ban all the nicks. |
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* VanessaE |
throws a kitten at NekoGloop |
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* NekoGloop |
dodges |
| 18:53 |
VanessaE |
MEOoooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww |
| 18:53 |
* C0mpl3xN4me |
is complex |
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VanessaE |
*splat* |
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PilzAdam |
hmmmm, kitten ragout |
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* sokomine |
grabs a spare kitten and protects it from pilzadam |
| 18:59 |
sokomine |
hi everyone |
| 18:59 |
VanessaE |
hey soko. |
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PilzAdam |
hmmmm, sokomine-kitten ragout |
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* sokomine |
doesn't taste |
| 19:00 |
* sokomine |
gives pilzadam a few mushrooms |
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PilzAdam |
Im not a cannibal! |
| 19:02 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: get the latest moretrees - now with leaf decay and falling apples :-) |
| 19:03 |
khonkhortisan |
falling apples means you can have an automated apple farm |
| 19:03 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: well...yeah I suppose it does |
| 19:03 |
PilzAdam |
get the latest moretrees, wait 10 mins. for the map generator to generate the trees, write a "I am leaving because of slowness" post in forum |
| 19:04 |
NakedFury |
apples falling after no leafs to hold them would be nice |
| 19:04 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: moretrees slows the map generator down only slightly. the rest is emergethread taking forever to echo back the changes. |
| 19:04 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury: that's what I've done. |
| 19:04 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, the result is the same |
| 19:04 |
VanessaE |
and hmmmm is working on that part. |
| 19:05 |
khonkhortisan |
I feel powerful. I can create and destroy entire worlds at will |
| 19:07 |
sokomine |
vanessae: got them a few minutes ago :-) |
| 19:07 |
khonkhortisan |
What setting do I need to set to ensure that the inventory textures will never be corrupted? |
| 19:08 |
sokomine |
pilzadam: hmpf! it's not that bad. my current world works well with them. i just gave up on chopping one of the trees down for wood. that's now done by a trader selling the wood |
| 19:08 |
PilzAdam |
khonkhortisan, there is none |
| 19:09 |
khonkhortisan |
Can I make them load in reverse order so the first ones get corrupted instead? |
| 19:09 |
sokomine |
do you mean enable_textureatlas = false ? |
| 19:09 |
khonkhortisan |
I have enable_texture_atlas = false |
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| 19:10 |
sokomine |
though that still makes inventory images disappear. most of the time i can't see the stairplus-nodes. and creative inventory works only to a degree. large parts of it can only be used by looking at the description at mouseover |
| 19:10 |
proller |
PilzAdam, please try https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/482 |
| 19:10 |
PilzAdam |
proller, maybe tomorrow |
| 19:11 |
sokomine |
world generation seems to be most critical after inital creation of the world - mods have only limited influence on it. maybe the game ought to include a sample world so that new players don't give up too soon? |
| 19:13 |
C0mpl3xN4me |
I am going to place a http://images.wikia.com/half-life/en/images/f/f5/Combine_Sentry_Gun.jpg |
| 19:13 |
C0mpl3xN4me |
in this room, and set it to target "kittens" and "cats". |
| 19:13 |
C0mpl3xN4me |
yes, that is you NakedFury |
| 19:14 |
* VanessaE |
places a young, cute, furry feline on rubenwardy's head. |
| 19:14 |
NakedFury |
what? |
| 19:14 |
VanessaE |
;) |
| 19:14 |
sokomine |
:-) |
| 19:14 |
rubenwardy |
it is a turret that aims at targets |
| 19:14 |
rubenwardy |
from Halflife 2 |
| 19:14 |
rubenwardy |
which, in turn, got it from "Aliens" |
| 19:14 |
NakedFury |
havent seen it yet in the game |
| 19:14 |
sokomine |
make sure it aims right. else it will blow more heads off than already happened :) |
| 19:15 |
Jordach |
Are you still there... |
| 19:15 |
NakedFury |
not that im too far into it |
| 19:15 |
sokomine |
vanessa: is there a good way to spawn a house in an area with a certain type of trees? |
| 19:18 |
Jordach |
channels quiet again |
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Kacey |
hi all |
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rubenwardy |
/msg turret -add_mask "feline" |
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rubenwardy |
/msg turret -add_target "VanessaE" |
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Jordach |
/mode +b CombineTurret |
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* CombineTurret |
fires .22 round at Jordach |
| 19:23 |
Jordach |
miss |
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* CombineTurret |
misses |
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* CombineTurret |
reloading |
| 19:23 |
Jordach |
Are you still there... |
| 19:23 |
rubenwardy |
yes |
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* NekoGloop |
puts a katana through CombineTurret's back |
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* CombineTurret |
fizzes with static |
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* Jordach |
is grumpy with my connection speed |
| 19:24 |
Jordach |
2.4kb/s |
| 19:24 |
Jordach |
BULLSHIT. |
| 19:24 |
* CombineTurret |
switches to pulse rifle and obliterates everyone in Jordach's direction |
| 19:25 |
Jordach |
there is nothing behind me, except emptyness |
| 19:25 |
* Jordach |
lives in a spatial void |
| 19:25 |
rubenwardy |
/msg turret -add_target "Jordach" |
| 19:25 |
Jordach |
CombineTurret*# |
| 19:25 |
* CombineTurret |
bang! |
| 19:25 |
Jordach |
-# |
| 19:25 |
* CombineTurret |
bang |
| 19:25 |
rubenwardy |
he shoots when ever you talk... |
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* Kacey |
wishes that the kids at school would learn to use computers... |
| 19:26 |
Jordach |
the turret is ignored |
| 19:26 |
* CombineTurret |
bang! |
| 19:26 |
Jordach |
cant touch me... |
| 19:26 |
* CombineTurret |
bang! |
| 19:26 |
* CombineTurret |
switches to IBMN launch station |
| 19:26 |
VanessaE |
<Hammer> Can't touch dis. </Hammer> |
| 19:26 |
Jordach |
Kacey, idiots are idiots |
| 19:26 |
rubenwardy |
uh oh |
| 19:26 |
* CombineTurret |
boom! |
| 19:27 |
rubenwardy |
/msg CombineTurret -quit |
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hallstein |
Hi |
| 19:27 |
* Jordach |
dual wields fusion blades |
| 19:28 |
NekoGloop |
Jordach: You were talking to said idiot. |
| 19:28 |
hallstein |
I just downloaded minetest and I've been playing, but I dont know how to get to the point where I can craft tools. how do I get there from nothing? |
| 19:28 |
NekoGloop |
With a brain |
| 19:29 |
Menche |
hallstein: have you gotten wood? do you know the recipes in minecraft? they're the same |
| 19:29 |
VanessaE |
hallstein: punch at a tree. Build a wooden pick. Then go from there |
| 19:29 |
PilzAdam |
hallstein, there is a 3x3 crafting grid at the top of the inventory |
| 19:30 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3Gl9gPdG2w |
| 19:30 |
hallstein |
I have wood and I've made sticks. i never played minecraft, though |
| 19:30 |
Menche |
hallstein, this is kind of old but still applies: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Crafting |
| 19:30 |
Menche |
has a list of items and they're recipes |
| 19:31 |
Menche |
they're = their |
| 19:31 |
Menche |
always mix those up |
| 19:31 |
hallstein |
Menche: thanks. but where do I get any of the things to make pickaxe when I can't mine stone? |
| 19:32 |
Menche |
you need a pick to mine stone. start with a wooden one. |
| 19:33 |
VanessaE |
didn't I just say that? :-) |
| 19:33 |
PilzAdam |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBbqyM6nB2s <- can someone tell this guy that minetest.com isnt the official website? |
| 19:34 |
hallstein |
Menche: right, but the recipe doesn't mention how to make it. I put wooden planks and sticks into the crafting part, but no option to make a wooden pick |
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NekoGloop |
PilzAdam: He's german, it's your responsibility :> |
| 19:34 |
PilzAdam |
I dont have a youtube account |
| 19:35 |
PilzAdam |
and I will never sign up to any google account |
| 19:35 |
PilzAdam |
s/account/service |
| 19:35 |
sokomine |
hallstein: place 3 wooden planks in the topmost row. place 2 sticks in the middle row beneath the middle wooden plank |
| 19:36 |
VanessaE |
hallstein: you did this and it didn't work? |
| 19:36 |
VanessaE |
W W W |
| 19:36 |
VanessaE |
- S - |
| 19:36 |
VanessaE |
- S - |
| 19:36 |
mauvebic |
i would be saving much space by converting positions to hexadecimal? |
| 19:36 |
sokomine |
if you want to, you can go to redcrabs server and visit the crafting school i built there. it shows all the main receipes plus those of some other mods useful for building |
| 19:37 |
hallstein |
VanessaE: I put Wooden planks and sticks there and nothing shows up |
| 19:37 |
VanessaE |
hallstein: do you have minetest_game installed also? |
| 19:37 |
VanessaE |
I don't think minimal even has crafting recipes does it? |
| 19:37 |
PilzAdam |
it has |
| 19:37 |
NekoGloop |
PilzAdam: That's just as bad as me saying I will never ever touch a computer that has linux on it. |
| 19:38 |
hallstein |
VanessaE: what do you mean? |
| 19:38 |
VanessaE |
hallstein: nevermind |
| 19:40 |
hallstein |
VanessaE: I got minecraft 0.4.4, I don't think it's any special version of the game |
| 19:41 |
hallstein |
VanessaE: it's on a windows pc |
| 19:42 |
VanessaE |
hallstein: and you're sure you did it right? |
| 19:42 |
rubenwardy |
(7:35:01 PM) PilzAdam: and I will never sign up to any google account |
| 19:42 |
rubenwardy |
google is great |
| 19:42 |
PilzAdam |
google is evil |
| 19:43 |
rubenwardy |
(7:33:54 PM) PilzAdam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBbqyM6nB2s <- can someone tell this guy that minetest.com isnt the official website? |
| 19:43 |
rubenwardy |
how do you say that? |
| 19:43 |
hallstein |
VanessaE: what kind of mistake might I have made? i put a bunch of wooden planks and sticks in the crafting squares as you said, but it doesn't show a pick I could make |
| 19:43 |
rubenwardy |
na |
| 19:43 |
PilzAdam |
nevermind, Jeija looks at it |
| 19:45 |
VanessaE |
hallstein: normally, if you place the items in the crafting grid in the right places, the result should show up at the right and you just take it |
| 19:45 |
hallstein |
VanessaE: the right places? does it matter? |
| 19:45 |
Menche |
hallstein: with most recipes, yes |
| 19:45 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 19:46 |
VanessaE |
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120324203007/minetestmodcenter/images/e/e3/Pickwood_craft_minetint.png |
| 19:46 |
VanessaE |
like this exactly. |
| 19:47 |
sokomine |
minimal has other textures (for whatever reason). it does have the basic crafts |
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sokomine |
hallstein: server lag? is your world new? |
| 19:47 |
hallstein |
VanessaE: thanks, that worked |
| 19:48 |
sokomine |
can you try to dig and place a block? |
| 19:48 |
rubenwardy |
although google is a bit touchy with privacy, its services are good |
| 19:48 |
rubenwardy |
ie: youtube, drive |
| 19:48 |
hallstein |
sokomine: I'm trying out the single player. you sure you meant me? |
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sokomine |
it takes a lot of effort to stay halfway clear of privacy violations with google. the search engine is still very useful |
| 19:49 |
rubenwardy |
I do not care about privacy. |
| 19:49 |
rubenwardy |
If they use my data to provide better advertisements to me, then is that not good? |
| 19:49 |
sokomine |
hallstein: yes, even in singleplayer you have a server running. it's a special case of multiplayer. in a new world, it might take a while for everything to be generated |
| 19:49 |
sokomine |
it works faster later on |
| 19:49 |
VanessaE |
it's strange, when I tried to search for "minetest wood pick", three of the first four results are from my Home Decor mod, of all things, with my texture pack test track coming in at slot #7 |
| 19:49 |
VanessaE |
weird |
| 19:50 |
hallstein |
sokomine: well, I can place and take blocks without issues |
| 19:50 |
sokomine |
iirc there was a wiki somewhere showing the crafting receipes. i just don't remember where it was |
| 19:50 |
sokomine |
hallstein: fine. so that bug does not toruble you. play on :-) |
| 19:50 |
Menche |
wiki.minetest.com has a recipe page |
| 19:51 |
hallstein |
sokomine: thanks |
| 19:54 |
hallstein |
Am I right in the assumption that in order to make objects, you have to arrange them in the crafting squares more or less in the shape of the object you are making? |
| 19:56 |
sokomine |
when creating a new receipe, mod writers usually try to make the receipe match the pattern of the object and make some sense in some way |
| 19:56 |
VanessaE |
hallstein: most of the time yeah |
| 19:56 |
sokomine |
it is not a requirement as such. just a try to make receipes easier to remember |
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| 19:56 |
VanessaE |
but sometimes an object is so complex that the recipe for it just doesn't really seem to match. |
| 19:57 |
VanessaE |
like the fridge in my home decor mod. Best recipe I could come up with still looks nothing like a fridge |
| 19:57 |
VanessaE |
(yet the node of course does) |
| 19:57 |
sokomine |
for more complex mods, we usually use the mod craft_guide to look up the receipe. that's helpful for rarely used stuff |
| 19:58 |
hallstein |
yeah, 3x3 obviously is limited. but I meant for the un-modded game |
| 19:58 |
VanessaE |
hallstein: workbench mod if you need larger recipes |
| 19:59 |
VanessaE |
but yeah |
| 20:00 |
VanessaE |
(there are only a couple of mods that need large recipes at present) |
| 20:00 |
hallstein |
VanessaE: thanks. I'll look into the mods soon |
| 20:01 |
sokomine |
looking into the mods is recommended. there are a lot of them out there which will make your game more fun |
| 20:02 |
VanessaE |
I have a few I could recommend, of course ;-) |
| 20:02 |
sokomine |
for singleplayer, i usually go with extended plantlife. for building, there are mods which add a bunch of blocks which are very well suited for building houses and such |
| 20:03 |
hallstein |
VanessaE: well, I'd be happy to hear your recommendations :) |
| 20:03 |
sokomine |
*g* yes. if you want to build a house, vanessas homedecor mod is almost a must. moreblocks is very popular as well. and 3dforniture with its chairs and tables etc |
| 20:03 |
VanessaE |
hallstein: my best ones are plantlife, moretrees, homedecor |
| 20:03 |
VanessaE |
also get mesecons, technic, streets, ... hell there are so many I can't really choose |
| 20:03 |
STHGOM |
mesecons |
| 20:04 |
STHGOM |
MODS!!!! |
| 20:04 |
rubenwardy |
bye |
| 20:04 |
STHGOM |
bye |
| 20:04 |
sokomine |
:-) |
| 20:04 |
rubenwardy |
the food mod is good... |
| 20:04 |
VanessaE |
ciao rubenwardy. |
| 20:04 |
hallstein |
VanessaE: mods are all written in Lua, right? so they work on all the platforms? |
| 20:04 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 20:04 |
rubenwardy |
hallstein: any platform that can run minetest |
| 20:04 |
sokomine |
yes, hallstein |
| 20:04 |
sokomine |
and they are very simple to create (unless you want something very exotic) |
| 20:05 |
hallstein |
sokomine: I heard lua is pretty simple. it's becoming very popular as a scripting language for C++ programs I hear |
| 20:05 |
STHGOM |
would cars, boats, and airplanes be considered exotic? |
| 20:05 |
VanessaE |
no, simply useful :-) |
| 20:06 |
VanessaE |
hallstein: yes |
| 20:06 |
VanessaE |
it's fairly simple |
| 20:06 |
VanessaE |
if you have any decent programming skills regardless of language, Lua isn't hard to pick up |
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sokomine |
we do have ufos by now. there are still some issues with vehicles but they improved a lot recently |
| 20:07 |
PilzAdam |
gtg; bye |
| 20:07 |
sokomine |
lua is still less convenient than other languages (at least to me) |
| 20:08 |
hallstein |
what's lua like? i've never looked into it |
| 20:08 |
VanessaE |
hard to describe |
| 20:08 |
VanessaE |
it's simple, but sometimes it can be pretty strict |
| 20:08 |
VanessaE |
especially with things like commas |
| 20:09 |
Jeija |
I'd say like python, but a lot cleaner; Or like the simplicity of Basic combined with the beauty of C |
| 20:09 |
VanessaE |
you can do just about anything you want in it |
| 20:09 |
VanessaE |
yeah, a merger of basic+C is about right |
| 20:10 |
VanessaE |
if/then/else, for/end, simple file I/O, even self-mod code is possible |
| 20:10 |
hallstein |
I'd hope so :) |
| 20:10 |
hallstein |
so like macros? like in lisp? |
| 20:11 |
VanessaE |
well no, not if you mean as in a macro assembler |
| 20:11 |
VanessaE |
but functions are easily used |
| 20:11 |
NekoGloop |
So like hell's programming language? |
| 20:11 |
VanessaE |
and inserting files into other files is a simple procedure |
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* sfan5 |
would say its pretty similar to python |
| 20:12 |
hallstein |
I'll have to look it up |
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* Jordach |
would say its so bad its pointless |
| 20:12 |
sfan5 |
you can redefine functions in-line in lua ''abc = function()\n print("Hello")\nend'' |
| 20:13 |
sfan5 |
i haven't found out whether you can do that in python |
| 20:13 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: given your having made "evil" blocks and tools, "hell's" programming language sounds legit ;-) |
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* NekoGloop |
whistles innocently |
| 20:14 |
VanessaE |
hah! |
| 20:14 |
sokomine |
let's say it serves its purpose for simple things. it is a full programming language. there are other languages which have a better error handling and give more helpful hints on what's wrong |
| 20:14 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bCilj4efa0 |
| 20:15 |
hallstein |
sokomine: If I understand correctly, Lua's main advantage is actually a C++ library which allows you to integrate lua very easily into your C++ program |
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* sfan5 |
agrees with sokomine |
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sokomine |
those evil blocks ought to have a more friendly name :-) |
| 20:15 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: you should see how I textured them in HDX :-) |
| 20:16 |
NekoGloop |
Did you take screenies from the "666" video on youtube? |
| 20:16 |
sfan5 |
hallstein: lua is designed as programming language you can use in your c/c++(/obj-c) programs |
| 20:16 |
sokomine |
yes, it seems easy to integrate and is small. for simple mods it is more than suitable. even for people who havn't programmed before (most can be done by taking a node definition and chaning that according to your needs) |
| 20:17 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/images/screenshot_3404147947.png |
| 20:18 |
sokomine |
vanessa: how do they look like there? the normal version seems to be a darkish red - which might be good for some buildings. but...evil? the blocks might run away after construction :-) |
| 20:18 |
VanessaE |
sokomine: ^^^^^^ |
| 20:18 |
khonkhortisan |
How does minetest manage to not corrupt its memory of what nodes are near you, but it manages to always corrupt the inventory images? |
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NekoGloop |
khonkhortisan: OpenGL. |
| 20:20 |
sokomine |
oh, it does manage to corrupt pictures of nodes around you sometimes. happens very frequently if i don't restart the whole game but just go to the menu and restart the world. after some time it will eventually be all white and texture-less |
| 20:20 |
sokomine |
even with texture_atlas disabled |
| 20:21 |
Menche |
if i suspend the computer then resume, distant blocks will all be plain white with colored speckles |
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sokomine |
i have to add that my grapics card is almost 5 years old and onboard |
| 20:22 |
EduardeCalibal |
I found a exploit. :D If your inventory is full the use the 9 slots of the crafting area as storage area. :-o |
| 20:22 |
EduardeCalibal |
then use... |
| 20:23 |
VanessaE |
we kbow this :-) |
| 20:23 |
VanessaE |
know* |
| 20:23 |
EduardeCalibal |
Nice. :D |
| 20:24 |
khonkhortisan |
I'll try hibernating and see how it goes |
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sokomine |
eduarde: there is even a mod called "bags" :-) that allowes to carry even more ,-) |
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bulletrulz |
lol i fucked up my computer last night had to reinstall xubuntu |
| 20:30 |
khonkhortisan |
My hibernation works fine. I have a good graphics card and cpu, my computer's bottleneck is memory. |
| 20:33 |
bulletrulz |
MiJyn, i fuckede up my computer last night |
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STHGOM |
bye |
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| 20:34 |
MiJyn |
bulletrulz, why? |
| 20:34 |
khonkhortisan |
My question is, how? |
| 20:34 |
khonkhortisan |
rm? update? driver? swap? forkbomb? |
| 20:35 |
bulletrulz |
i was trying to unistall the xfce de and fucked up when i did as it removed abunch of shit needed for the computer to work so i just grabbed my usb i installed xubuntu |
| 20:35 |
MiJyn |
khonkhortisan, definitely forkbomb :P jk |
| 20:35 |
MiJyn |
@bulletrulz ouch |
| 20:36 |
bulletrulz |
ikr |
| 20:36 |
bulletrulz |
i had so much fucking movies and music! |
| 20:36 |
khonkhortisan |
you lost /home too? |
| 20:36 |
MiJyn |
@bulletrulz, pirated? xD |
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bulletrulz |
MiJyn, howd u know XDD |
| 20:37 |
khonkhortisan |
I would think there'd be a recovery install button |
| 20:37 |
MiJyn |
bulletrulz, oh, random guess xD |
| 20:37 |
bulletrulz |
MiJyn, yep just just about enough that i would spend my life in prison |
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khonkhortisan |
I only pirate what I have an old cd of |
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MiJyn |
@bulletrulz, ah, that's not enough! xD |
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MiJyn |
jk |
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bulletrulz |
lol but honestlyn nobody cares about pirating |
| 20:38 |
MiJyn |
yeah ik |
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khonkhortisan |
if the product isn't still sold, that would be true |
| 20:39 |
MiJyn |
@bulletrulz, can we continue this over query? |
| 20:39 |
bulletrulz |
or skype MiJyn |
| 20:39 |
MiJyn |
k |
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khonkhortisan |
don't worry about me, I'm not the pirate police |
| 20:40 |
MiJyn |
yeah, it's just because it has nothing to do with MT lol |
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khonkhortisan |
oh, hibernating corrupted my inventory |
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bulletrulz |
u know what movies u go should watch |
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bulletrulz |
idocracy |
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hallstein |
where are the enemies supposed to be? |
| 20:55 |
khonkhortisan |
If you are playing minetest with default minetest_game, the enemies have been removed. |
| 20:58 |
hallstein |
khonkhortisan: and i cant put them back in? |
| 20:59 |
khonkhortisan |
There are mods that add enemies back in |
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hallstein |
khonkhortisan: thanks |
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ShadowNinja |
Menche: my converter works with water, lava and torches now |
| 21:12 |
Menche |
ShadowNinja: sorry, was afk. thats great, link? |
| 21:13 |
ShadowNinja |
http://ubuntuone.com/0BS5fFdGKW7pcxD99XNGr1 and http://ubuntuone.com/0qfOsbavGpfy4g67nyvcrB |
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hallstein |
what happens if you die in single player? |
| 21:49 |
EduardeCalibal |
Nothing... |
| 21:49 |
khonkhortisan |
you come back to life in a new location |
| 21:50 |
khonkhortisan |
with full health |
| 21:50 |
EduardeCalibal |
Well, I put a mod to lost all itens. |
| 21:50 |
EduardeCalibal |
:) |
| 21:50 |
khonkhortisan |
and you have to find your way back to where you were building |
| 21:50 |
khonkhortisan |
bones? |
| 21:50 |
khonkhortisan |
bones are undependable |
| 21:50 |
EduardeCalibal |
Yes, I think |
| 21:50 |
khonkhortisan |
You can _actually_ lose your items |
| 21:50 |
hallstein |
Oh, the world is pretty large, isn't it? |
| 21:50 |
hallstein |
so I'd likely have to look for a long time |
| 21:50 |
EduardeCalibal |
Yes... |
| 21:50 |
khonkhortisan |
It's as far as you can see. |
| 21:51 |
khonkhortisan |
If you go farther, it makes the world bigger. |
| 21:51 |
khonkhortisan |
There is a maximum size around 30000 |
| 21:51 |
hallstein |
I'm building a very tall tower so I can find my main mine/stash |
| 21:51 |
hallstein |
just wondering what would happen if I fell off |
| 21:51 |
khonkhortisan |
That doesn't always work |
| 21:51 |
khonkhortisan |
If you die and respawn far enough away, you won't load the tower to be able to see it |
| 21:51 |
EduardeCalibal |
The mod technic_master or inventory plus have a function to set home base. :D |
| 21:51 |
khonkhortisan |
F5 will tell you your coordinates |
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khonkhortisan |
Hello Uberi |
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hallstein |
khonkhortisan: thanks, that's helpful |
| 21:52 |
Uberi |
o/ |
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EduardeCalibal |
I love the F5. :D |
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bulletrulz |
brock lesners f5? |
| 21:54 |
EduardeCalibal |
Key F5. :-P |
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* khonkhortisan |
just learned to not leave a boat running while building it |
| 21:57 |
Uberi |
is your boat running? then you'd better go catch it :P |
| 21:57 |
EduardeCalibal |
:D |
| 21:58 |
khonkhortisan |
I'm using technic frames surrounded by wood with pressure plates to control it |
| 21:58 |
hallstein |
How do I use my smelter,btw? my wooden pickaxe is a little slow |
| 21:58 |
khonkhortisan |
If you have coal lumps, put that in the top and put something flammable in the bottom |
| 21:58 |
hallstein |
on the left or right part? |
| 21:59 |
khonkhortisan |
the part that has black in the center |
| 21:59 |
khonkhortisan |
left |
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hallstein |
thanks |
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ShadowNinja |
coal/something flamable goes in the bottom |
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khonkhortisan |
I mean iron lumps then |
| 22:01 |
hallstein |
wait, i put, say, coal and a sapling on the left, and fill each of the four squares with iron lumps? |
| 22:01 |
khonkhortisan |
the four squares are output. |
| 22:01 |
khonkhortisan |
The bottom is flammable input |
| 22:01 |
khonkhortisan |
the top is smeltable material |
| 22:02 |
khonkhortisan |
Don't use saplings for fuel |
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hallstein |
apples, then |
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ShadowNinja |
use tree |
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khonkhortisan |
Does wood burn the same as trunk? |
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ShadowNinja |
lasts long and is east to get |
| 22:03 |
ShadowNinja |
no, a lot shorter |
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khonkhortisan |
uh, I turned on my boat and fell a node down into it |
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khonkhortisan |
again and I fell all the way through it |
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hallstein |
thanks, it's making ingots |
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hallstein |
how long can i stay underwater? |
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khonkhortisan |
forever without a mod |
| 22:25 |
hallstein |
khonkhortisan: thanks |
| 22:25 |
khonkhortisan |
If it was any other way, there would be an oxygen bar, red / black tint, or audio warning. |
| 22:25 |
khonkhortisan |
Also, fire doesn't kill, but lava does. |
| 22:26 |
hallstein |
thats what i was thinking, but i wasnt sure |
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Muadtralk |
fire kills now |
| 22:27 |
Muadtralk |
least last I checked it did |
| 22:30 |
khonkhortisan |
My mesecons machine shows a mesecons bug. I can fall through my technic boat. What do I do now? |
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Muadtralk |
build a platform under the boat? |
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Muadtralk |
and pretend to use it? |
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khonkhortisan |
it's a good thing grass doesn't burn |
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Muadtralk |
it should! |
| 22:34 |
khonkhortisan |
There was a town that covered its roads with wood. The whole thing burned down. |
| 22:35 |
khonkhortisan |
heh. I removed the grass by putting fire on it, but that's a separate abm |
| 22:35 |
khonkhortisan |
yep, fire hurts |
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jin_xi |
huh |
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Uberi |
khonkhortisan: what's the bug? |
| 22:45 |
khonkhortisan |
https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/issues/75 |
| 22:46 |
EduardeCalibal |
Sometimes I test mods and have the message: Name boats:boat does not follow naming conventions: "modname:" or ":" prefix required. |
| 22:46 |
EduardeCalibal |
How solve this? |
| 22:46 |
khonkhortisan |
boats/init.lua |
| 22:47 |
khonkhortisan |
The file "modname/init.lua" defines the node "modname:nodename" |
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EduardeCalibal |
I already read the file but dont understand the error... |
| 22:47 |
khonkhortisan |
What folder is the init.lua in? |
| 22:47 |
EduardeCalibal |
The modname need be the same? |
| 22:47 |
khonkhortisan |
yes |
| 22:50 |
EduardeCalibal |
Well... I renamed many other mods, but ok, testing... |
| 22:50 |
Uberi |
hey khonkhortisan, you know that issue? #68? |
| 22:51 |
khonkhortisan |
yeah |
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khonkhortisan |
oh there's a comment |
| 22:51 |
Uberi |
well, I can't make heads or tails of it |
| 22:51 |
Jeija |
Yeah, I'm still wondering what you actually want from us... |
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Uberi |
hmm, maybe a diagram would help |
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Uberi |
hey sapier |
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sapier |
hello |
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EduardeCalibal |
Thanks khonkhortisan, is working now. ;D |
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EduardeCalibal |
AFK |
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khonkhortisan |
If I have a wire in the air and it is on my left and I place a corner on the end, the wire turns right. |
| 22:54 |
EduardeCalibal |
This game have outside camera? |
| 22:54 |
Uberi |
khonkhortisan: wait wait, on your left? |
| 22:54 |
Uberi |
EduardeCalibal: third person? not yet |
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sapier |
no |
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EduardeCalibal |
To bad... :D |
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EduardeCalibal |
Thanks. |
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EduardeCalibal |
:D |
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khonkhortisan |
If I have a wire in the air and it is in front of me and I place a corner on the end, the wire is not connected to the corner (corner is going back/left, wire is going forward) |
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EduardeCalibal |
AFK |
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khonkhortisan |
If I have a wire in the air and it is on my right and I place a corner on the end, the wire is not connected to the corner (corner is going back/left, wire is going right) |
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khonkhortisan |
Yes, I _should_ make a diagram. |
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Uberi |
oooh I sort of get it now |
| 22:56 |
Uberi |
so what you want is that the wire connects based on what is already there? |
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khonkhortisan |
The problem is that the wire is in the air instead of on the ground |
| 22:56 |
khonkhortisan |
If I want the wire to turn left, I would have to be standing on the wire when I place the corner. |
| 22:57 |
Jeija |
Me too, but how often is there a wire in the air? I'm not sure what behaviour confuses me most... the current one or the proposed one. |
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khonkhortisan |
If I'm standing on the wire, I can't see the end of it to put the corner on, unless there's ground there |
| 22:57 |
Uberi |
not necessarily, khonkhortisan, it's based on get_player_facedir() |
| 22:57 |
khonkhortisan |
A wire is in the air when you make a computer starting from the display |
| 22:59 |
Uberi |
yes, aerial wiring is quite useful |
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khonkhortisan |
What do you mean about the facedir? |
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Uberi |
hey Menche |
| 23:00 |
Menche |
hi |
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Uberi |
khonkhortisan: basically, facedir is calculated based on the player facing direction |
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Uberi |
hey NekoGloop |
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Uberi |
it should not matter what your height is |
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khonkhortisan |
To turn left you have to place the corner on the end of a wire that is pointing the same direction as you are |
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Uberi |
OK now you've lost me again |
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khonkhortisan |
I'll diagram it. |
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sapier |
uberi are those changes i did to the file api changeset what you wanted to have? |
| 23:04 |
Uberi |
sapier: yes, definitely |
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Uberi |
I think the security changeset is pretty good too, now with the compatible auth format |
| 23:04 |
sapier |
anything missing atm you know of? or any bugs in there? |
| 23:05 |
sapier |
still some ppl have to be persuaded that security is worth giving old some bad habits |
| 23:05 |
Uberi |
sapier: well I haven't tested it terribly much, but I am working on a basic WE //save and //load implementation |
| 23:05 |
sapier |
giving up |
| 23:06 |
sapier |
already based upon that changes? |
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NekoGloop |
Haaiii |
| 23:06 |
sapier |
hmm you don't have file listing support in file api ... not quite sure if it'd be good to have it |
| 23:07 |
Uberi |
sapier: it would be great, yes |
| 23:07 |
Uberi |
we could list the WE schematics in the world, for example |
| 23:07 |
sapier |
on one hand i think so on the other hand you'd make it more easy for mods to mess around with other mods data |
| 23:08 |
Uberi |
well yes, but they can do that anyways, right? |
| 23:08 |
sapier |
if you already know filename of other mod yes (or are good at guessing) |
| 23:08 |
Uberi |
yep |
| 23:09 |
sapier |
still file listing support makes finding files much more conveniant .. in legit as well as evil cases ... it's a dual purpose feature |
| 23:10 |
Uberi |
so is every feature, of course :P |
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sapier |
hmm maybe hideable files would be an option |
| 23:11 |
sapier |
file listing not showing files a mod created as not listable |
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Uberi |
no no, how about mod folders? |
| 23:11 |
sapier |
isn't possible as you can't decide which mod is calling a open_file |
| 23:11 |
Uberi |
sapier: you can't? what about a backtrace? |
| 23:12 |
Uberi |
the file surely must be in the stack somewhere, right? |
| 23:12 |
sapier |
files may be opened e.g. on_node_place |
| 23:12 |
Uberi |
yeah |
| 23:13 |
Uberi |
well you know it's no worse for things like that |
| 23:13 |
Uberi |
after all, more popular mods often have fixed file names already |
| 23:13 |
sapier |
what level of backtrace decides which mod we are in? first? last? something in between? |
| 23:13 |
Uberi |
sapier: true |
| 23:14 |
sapier |
I know it'd be great to always know which mod is calling but currently I don't see a way to know about this |
| 23:15 |
sapier |
I think I'll add hidden files and file listing support to file api |
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Uberi |
sapier: hidden files could be dotfiles, it all works out |
| 23:15 |
Menche |
hey ShadowNinja |
| 23:15 |
sapier |
isn't working quite well on windows |
| 23:15 |
Uberi |
how so? |
| 23:16 |
ShadowNinja |
hi, is the converter working correctly? |
| 23:16 |
Uberi |
which one? |
| 23:16 |
Menche |
except for break animation and desert stone/sand, yes |
| 23:16 |
Menche |
tried another pack and it has opaque background on the break animation |
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sapier |
as file api has full control about filenames e.g. adding a prefix to filenames may be a solution (from within minetest you can't see it, files missing this prefix are hidden too) |
| 23:17 |
Menche |
other than that its great |
| 23:17 |
Uberi |
yeah, that could work |
| 23:17 |
ShadowNinja |
mc doesn't have desert stone/sand and if you use annother tp the breakanim should work |
| 23:17 |
Menche |
minetest's desert stone is just normal stone tinted red. can PIL do that? |
| 23:18 |
ShadowNinja |
probably |
| 23:18 |
sapier |
I guess it'd not take long for someone to ask "why are my we files named <missing prefix>... not openable from minetest mod ... :-/ |
| 23:18 |
Uberi |
well yeah, there is a ton of schems out there already |
| 23:18 |
Uberi |
can't really break compat with them |
| 23:18 |
Menche |
nice how you got the lava/water animated |
| 23:19 |
ShadowNinja |
it is a little fast but you can fix that with a simple change in default if you want to |
| 23:19 |
sapier |
not quite good but maybe hiding all files starting with hidden_ is good enough ... if someone has a file out there using this prefix it's his problem |
| 23:22 |
sapier |
does anyone have a better suggestion? |
| 23:22 |
khonkhortisan |
Uberi, Jeija there's my diagram https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/issues/68 I hope I made myself clear |
| 23:22 |
Uberi |
ah much better |
| 23:24 |
Jeija |
a lot more understandable |
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khonkhortisan |
good |
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Uberi |
khonkhortisan: I usually do this: |
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Uberi |
M** |
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Uberi |
M*D |
| 23:27 |
Uberi |
MCD |
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Uberi |
MC* |
| 23:27 |
Uberi |
M is mesecon, * is air, D is dirt, C is corner |
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Traxie21 |
Hello |
| 23:28 |
Uberi |
hi |
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khonkhortisan |
I do M** Mc* Mcc M*c MCc MC* where M is mesecon, * is air, c is incorrectly oriented corner, C is correctly oriented corner. |
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Traxie21 |
whats up? |
| 23:28 |
Uberi |
khonkhortisan: that's a bit faster, I suppose |
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khonkhortisan |
If corners and 3-ways weren't placed like "┬ â”", but were placed like "â”” â”´" or "â”´ ┘", then you wouldn't have to place dirt near them. |
| 23:34 |
Uberi |
khonkhortisan: well yes but then you have to dig out nodes when placing one in a corner |
| 23:34 |
Uberi |
take for example: |
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Uberi |
DDD |
| 23:34 |
Uberi |
D |
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Uberi |
C |
| 23:34 |
Uberi |
er, scratch that last line |
| 23:34 |
Uberi |
how will you place a corner there then? |
| 23:35 |
khonkhortisan |
stand on it? |
| 23:35 |
Uberi |
the corner D? what if it's a building? |
| 23:35 |
khonkhortisan |
I would stand on the node I would place the corner on |
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Uberi |
hmm, that could work, but it's sort of counterintuitive |
| 23:36 |
khonkhortisan |
And only need to place one node to have the corner oriented correctly |
| 23:37 |
khonkhortisan |
It's also counterintuitive that you have to be on the side of an insulated wire to extend it, while you can be looking straight at an uninsulated wire and backing up to extend it |
| 23:37 |
khonkhortisan |
-but I wouldn't change that |
| 23:39 |
khonkhortisan |
I ask you, what's worse? Counterintuitive placement, or triple placement? |
| 23:40 |
khonkhortisan |
I don't know. |
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mauvebic |
atlantis - 512^3 ~ 24m and going lol |
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mauvebic |
26.4mb lol |
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pierreghz |
I can't craft a Mese pickaxe with the devel version O_o |
| 23:59 |
Uberi |
what recipe? what game? |
| 23:59 |
Uberi |
also, what version? |
