| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
mauvebic |
NudeFury you mentionned cars earlier |
| 00:00 |
qata |
how do i play |
| 00:00 |
Menche |
xrendan: just realized that I built the server without libpng12-dev |
| 00:00 |
Uberi |
an interesting game |
| 00:00 |
Uberi |
the only winning move is not to play |
| 00:01 |
Menche |
quata: you new? what OS? |
| 00:01 |
Menche |
the download page is down at the moment, there's been a server move |
| 00:02 |
marktraceur |
Menche: qata left |
| 00:03 |
xrendan |
Menche: I figured it out I forgot to run apt-get update when I first booted it up. Thanks for the help :D |
| 00:03 |
Menche |
ah. darn. HATE it when people pop on, ask something, then pop off |
| 00:03 |
Menche |
kinda pointless |
| 00:03 |
marktraceur |
*nod* |
| 00:03 |
marktraceur |
I hate when people leave IRC |
| 00:03 |
* marktraceur |
: 12-day uptime |
| 00:03 |
Menche |
especially seconds after they ask something |
| 00:03 |
marktraceur |
Actually, the server has been up for 85 days |
| 00:04 |
mauvebic |
is the british version of life on mars any better than the US? |
| 00:04 |
marktraceur |
But I guess IRC totally failed 12 days ago |
| 00:04 |
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| 00:04 |
krash |
hellloooo |
| 00:04 |
Menche |
hi |
| 00:05 |
krash |
hows it goin |
| 00:05 |
krash |
the website, anyone know when it will be back up? |
| 00:06 |
Menche |
why is it down anyway? didn't c55 get the old data back? |
| 00:07 |
Menche |
forum.minetest.net is up in case you didn't know |
| 00:07 |
Uberi |
yeah xyz is hosting noe |
| 00:07 |
Uberi |
* now |
| 00:08 |
Menche |
and dev.minetest.net |
| 00:08 |
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| 00:08 |
Menche |
xXawesome9funkXx is pointless |
| 00:08 |
marktraceur |
krash: In short, we're aware of it, and we don't know when it will return |
| 00:09 |
|
Topic for #minetest is now We are aware of the minetest.net downtime, no need to report it | Please, be courteous, here and in other channels. This isn't a playground. | IRC: Be patient; get to know the rules | HOME: http://minetest.net | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | STATUS: http://servers.minetest.ru/ | IRC LOGS: |
| 00:09 |
|
Topic for #minetest is now We are aware of the minetest.net downtime, no need to report it | Please, be courteous, here and in other channels. This isn't a playground. | IRC: Be patient; get to know the rules | HOME: http://minetest.net | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | STATUS: http://servers.minetest.ru/ | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ |
| 00:09 |
marktraceur |
Sorry about that all |
| 00:10 |
krash |
ahhh, gotya, thanks, just wanted to do some look and see |
| 00:10 |
Menche |
he wasn't really reporting it, he was asking why |
| 00:10 |
Uberi |
marktraceur: wait is it down again? I thought I just visited it and it was up |
| 00:10 |
marktraceur |
Uhhh |
| 00:10 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: http://www.minetest.net/ |
| 00:10 |
krash |
the forums up |
| 00:11 |
Uberi |
ah |
| 00:11 |
krash |
www.minetest.net is temporarily down. See forum. |
| 00:11 |
Menche |
what IS going on with the minetest.net main page? |
| 00:11 |
krash |
well im curious now |
| 00:11 |
sema4 |
note, www. rather than forms. or dev.;) |
| 00:12 |
krash |
just wanted to look at the wiki |
| 00:12 |
Uberi |
holy moly the forum notifications started working again |
| 00:13 |
krash |
ITS A MIRACLE |
| 00:13 |
krash |
but seriously, who does the site maintnance |
| 00:13 |
Menche |
was just transferred from celeron55 to xyz |
| 00:14 |
|
Topic for #minetest is now We are aware of the http://www.minetest.net downtime, no need to report it | Please, be courteous, here and in other channels. This isn't a playground. | IRC: Be patient; get to know the rules | HOME: http://minetest.net | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | STATUS: http://servers.minetest.ru/ | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ |
| 00:14 |
krash |
so judgeing by the looks of the forums and everything, no offence, but its a bit of a all over the place kinda project right now |
| 00:14 |
krash |
? |
| 00:16 |
krash |
ok. sorry to bother yall, was going to offer some help. |
| 00:16 |
Menche |
celeron55, who started the whole thing, was hosting everything, but his VPS started acting crazy and going down all the time |
| 00:16 |
Menche |
so xyz offered to host it, and the stuff is being transferred right now |
| 00:16 |
Menche |
at least thats my understanding of what's going on |
| 00:16 |
krash |
ooooo |
| 00:17 |
krash |
ok. |
| 00:17 |
krash |
sorry bout that |
| 00:18 |
marktraceur |
krash: In short yes, the project is a tad disorganized |
| 00:18 |
marktraceur |
krash: There have been rumours from c55 about being better |
| 00:18 |
marktraceur |
krash: And this weekend we're organizing a documentation sprint to help new contributors |
| 00:19 |
marktraceur |
Think "I've never seen this project before and I want to read its code, what do I need to know?" |
| 00:19 |
Zetetic |
Does Minetest support joysticks? |
| 00:19 |
Uberi |
oh yeah the doc sprint is this weekend |
| 00:19 |
marktraceur |
Maybe also coming from "I've played this game but never seen C++ before, what do I need to know?" |
| 00:19 |
kaeza |
Zetetic, no |
| 00:19 |
Zetetic |
:( |
| 00:19 |
Uberi |
marktraceur: I call dibs on the Lua builtins! |
| 00:19 |
marktraceur |
Zetetic: I've had OK success with translators |
| 00:19 |
kaeza |
Zetetic, use qjoypad :) |
| 00:19 |
Zetetic |
Thanks :) |
| 00:19 |
Uberi |
mostly because of a lack of experience in C++ |
| 00:20 |
marktraceur |
Zetetic: A piece of software that will translate joystick actions into keyboard or mouse ones |
| 00:20 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: "dibs" has no effect on the potentially anarchic system I may or may not be using for Saturday |
| 00:20 |
marktraceur |
(lol I have no idea how it's organized yet) |
| 00:20 |
krash |
ill stop by and check out the sprint |
| 00:20 |
Uberi |
cool |
| 00:20 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: I'll definitely use people in the best way possible, so no worries |
| 00:21 |
marktraceur |
krash: The sprint will be in #minetest-doc |
| 00:21 |
marktraceur |
(and hopefully we'll have people stay in there also) |
| 00:21 |
mauvebic |
*use people = bad mental imagery lol |
| 00:22 |
* marktraceur |
refuses to make a joke in order to preserve his chances that people will attend the sprint |
| 00:22 |
mauvebic |
twisted humour |
| 00:22 |
krash |
perfect, got it. it would be cool to see this surpas minecraft |
| 00:22 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: I fully intend to put resources on a project, and if you don't intend to work on something, I'd expect you wouldn't show up to an event focused on working! :) |
| 00:23 |
marktraceur |
Also, there is a note on the forum post, but is anyone interested in doing an in-person meeting in the Bay Area? |
| 00:23 |
mauvebic |
i think that misses the more basic point that i know little about cpp so i wouldn't be much use in the first place :p |
| 00:23 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Doesn't matter, you can still help |
| 00:24 |
Uberi |
marktraceur: what's the Bay area? |
| 00:24 |
Menche |
I'm in the Bay Area, if enought other people are I could consider an in-person meeting |
| 00:24 |
krash |
i think we just jump in the bay? |
| 00:24 |
Menche |
Uberi: I'm assuming the SF BAY? |
| 00:24 |
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| 00:24 |
krash |
that area? |
| 00:24 |
Uberi |
ah |
| 00:24 |
Uberi |
krash: well yes I assume they would meet underwater |
| 00:24 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: San Francisco Bay Area |
| 00:25 |
mauvebic |
im north of montreal but i do envy your weather lol |
| 00:25 |
krash |
ok, gotta clean up the old sub. get it going. |
| 00:25 |
Menche |
I have a canoe |
| 00:25 |
marktraceur |
I think OldCoder is in the area somewhere |
| 00:25 |
sema4 |
i was under the impression most active minetest folk were in EU |
| 00:25 |
krash |
i can only fit 4 sadly. |
| 00:25 |
kaeza |
I'm in South America; that's even worse |
| 00:25 |
kaeza |
:P |
| 00:25 |
sema4 |
oh , heh |
| 00:25 |
mauvebic |
we got a few canadians, south americans, but large chunks of EU /US |
| 00:25 |
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| 00:25 |
krash |
CANADA EH |
| 00:26 |
mauvebic |
tabarnacle lol |
| 00:26 |
sema4 |
we don't all say eh all the time |
| 00:26 |
* marktraceur |
is de-facto Canadian: Born in Minnesota |
| 00:26 |
jojoa1997 |
the special_tools(shears) mod is ready http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=63657#p63657 |
| 00:26 |
mauvebic |
you have no idea how many french swear words we have lol |
| 00:26 |
krash |
think some duct tape will fix your c++ |
| 00:26 |
krash |
no seman, we dont, not all the time, thats right eh |
| 00:26 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE: please add that mod to your server makes clearing out leaves a lot easier |
| 00:27 |
Menche |
Raise you're hand if you're in the Bay Area! |
| 00:27 |
krash |
calis tabernac este |
| 00:27 |
Uberi |
I think the fire mod is good for that |
| 00:27 |
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| 00:27 |
mauvebic |
*osti |
| 00:27 |
kaeza |
Menche, your* |
| 00:27 |
Zetetic |
I'm in /a/ bay |
| 00:27 |
Menche |
can't really see, but whatever |
| 00:27 |
Menche |
lol |
| 00:27 |
krash |
sorrrry |
| 00:27 |
kaeza |
is Montevideo Bay ok? |
| 00:27 |
sema4 |
seman, that's a new one :) |
| 00:28 |
krash |
ooooooops. |
| 00:28 |
mauvebic |
i am in a room, with lights! |
| 00:28 |
krash |
wanna be my first mate? |
| 00:28 |
VanessaE |
if anyone wants minecraft-like smoke particles, here's what I've been working on: https://github.com/VanessaE/particles |
| 00:28 |
VanessaE |
(it's sfan5's, with tweaks by me to look better) |
| 00:28 |
Menche |
envisioning a bunch people with computers in a bunch of canoes and rafts connected by wires in the bay |
| 00:28 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 00:29 |
krash |
HA! |
| 00:29 |
mauvebic |
if thats what you think of us than the americans must be living on planks of wood at sea lol |
| 00:29 |
Menche |
need someone with a cellular hotspot, people with paddles to keep the canoe city close enough so wires aren't strechted |
| 00:29 |
VanessaE |
the above mod is in place on my server if you want to see it in action. |
| 00:29 |
xrendan |
Is there a way to fix this error when compiling "dpkg-deb: error: parsing file '/var/tmp/tmp.zgJQUHHgjW/package/DEBIAN/control' near line 7 package 'celeron55-minetest': error in Version string 'c691d61-1': version number does not start with digit " |
| 00:29 |
Menche |
lol |
| 00:30 |
mauvebic |
we never deregulated our banks like they did lol |
| 00:30 |
krash |
no they use pontoons, or house boats. |
| 00:30 |
mauvebic |
house boat would be cool |
| 00:30 |
mauvebic |
i get sick of living in the same place for too long |
| 00:30 |
Menche |
wait, he said Bay AREA, not Bay. got it |
| 00:30 |
mauvebic |
i dont like people lol |
| 00:31 |
Zetetic |
I might live on a boat fairly soon |
| 00:31 |
krash |
yeah but what happens if your house catches on fire, in the middle of a lake, your still screwed |
| 00:31 |
Zetetic |
Not a house boat though |
| 00:31 |
mauvebic |
what happens if theres a riot in your neighbourhood? your house catches fire lol |
| 00:31 |
marktraceur |
krash: Better have two houses then |
| 00:31 |
mauvebic |
the likelihood of both is about the same |
| 00:31 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE: could you add special_tools |
| 00:31 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_1000004547.jpg |
| 00:31 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: no |
| 00:31 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: 404. |
| 00:32 |
kaeza |
again |
| 00:32 |
kaeza |
try again |
| 00:32 |
VanessaE |
there we go |
| 00:32 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE:why |
| 00:32 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: use an evil sword, it cuts leaves and other nodes about as fast as it can get |
| 00:32 |
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| 00:32 |
scienceandhorror |
!up 0gb.us |
| 00:32 |
scienceandhorror |
!up 0gb.us:30001 |
| 00:32 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, nice! |
| 00:32 |
Zetetic |
I think the bots left |
| 00:32 |
jojoa1997 |
fine but i like my texture better |
| 00:32 |
kaeza |
scienceandhorror, the bot is not here |
| 00:32 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: you like? :-) |
| 00:33 |
jojoa1997 |
Zetetic they were kicked |
| 00:33 |
scienceandhorror |
Oh, the bots are away. |
| 00:33 |
sema4 |
kaeza: are those particles on the torch supposed to resmble smoking.smouldering? |
| 00:33 |
krash |
i gotta stop. time to go play around, so just to see, what are some major things that are going to be improved? |
| 00:33 |
Zetetic |
jojoa1997: that's just why they left :p |
| 00:33 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, of course :) |
| 00:33 |
Menche |
celeron55 banned all the bots after one responded to one of the others |
| 00:33 |
jojoa1997 |
c55 kicked them |
| 00:33 |
jojoa1997 |
he said have just one |
| 00:33 |
mauvebic |
lol |
| 00:33 |
scienceandhorror |
Can someone check a server manually? I haven't been able to connect, and I think it might be my ISP's fault, since they switched over to IPv6 and routing's been weird. |
| 00:33 |
kaeza |
infinite bot loop lol |
| 00:34 |
Uberi |
so which is the One True Bot? |
| 00:34 |
Menche |
two bots responded to someone's message, then another bot responded to one of the other bots |
| 00:34 |
marktraceur |
celeron55++ |
| 00:34 |
kaeza |
Uberi, cleverbot :) |
| 00:34 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: I suspect we won't have bots for a while because iqualfragile and sfan5 refuse to have a discussion about who gets to stay |
| 00:35 |
mauvebic |
lol |
| 00:35 |
Menche |
kaeza: there goes all intelligent conversation |
| 00:35 |
VanessaE |
brb |
| 00:35 |
kaeza |
Menche, you should try TABot |
| 00:36 |
kaeza |
(ask TheZenKitteh when he's online) |
| 00:36 |
Uberi |
aw no cleverbot |
| 00:36 |
Menche |
kaeza: haven't heard of that. Have you seen the cleverbot with the animated human face? i think it's kinda creepy |
| 00:36 |
Uberi |
they should have a bot war |
| 00:36 |
Uberi |
and the winner gets to stay |
| 00:37 |
Uberi |
each bot controls a nuclear missile silo |
| 00:37 |
Uberi |
the last bot standing wins |
| 00:37 |
kaeza |
brace yourselves... bot spam is coming :D |
| 00:37 |
Uberi |
nothing could possibly go wrong with this plan |
| 00:37 |
mauvebic |
huh they think they found jimmy hoffa lol |
| 00:37 |
kaeza |
like a bot rap battle lol |
| 00:37 |
jojoa1997 |
BOOM............................................... O.o |
| 00:38 |
* jojoa1997 |
twitch twitch |
| 00:39 |
Menche |
I asked cleverbot if it likes minetest |
| 00:39 |
Menche |
it said, "Yes you have wonderful eyes." |
| 00:39 |
VanessaE |
back |
| 00:39 |
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| 00:39 |
marktraceur |
Menche: Not super clever |
| 00:39 |
marktraceur |
unix: I love your nick, but not your hostname |
| 00:40 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: update. |
| 00:40 |
VanessaE |
(minor tweak) |
| 00:40 |
kaeza |
ok |
| 00:42 |
sema4 |
bbl |
| 00:45 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, just noticed this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_1000764507.jpg |
| 00:45 |
erlehmann |
VanessaE, you did make pipes? |
| 00:46 |
VanessaE |
erlehmann: yes |
| 00:46 |
kaeza |
that happens whenever I'm away from the torches |
| 00:46 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: can't fix that unless I slow the spawn rate WAAAAAAAAY down |
| 00:46 |
* marktraceur |
gasps loudly |
| 00:46 |
erlehmann |
VanessaE, gibe mod |
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| 00:46 |
marktraceur |
erlehmann: You return triumphant! |
| 00:46 |
VanessaE |
= celeron55 needs to fix it. :-/ |
| 00:46 |
VanessaE |
erlehmann: eh? |
| 00:46 |
kaeza |
:/ |
| 00:46 |
kaeza |
np with that though |
| 00:47 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: of course, you did set up quite a few of the suckers |
| 00:47 |
erlehmann |
marktraceur, last time i was here i showed pilzadam wireworld and he made it |
| 00:47 |
VanessaE |
I think at any time there are about 5 or 6 smoke entities per torch, so that limits you to about 8 torches in a mapblock |
| 00:47 |
erlehmann |
VanessaE, I would be interested in making a better wireworld. |
| 00:47 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, I like to do things to the extreme :P |
| 00:47 |
Uberi |
whoa better wireworld |
| 00:47 |
erlehmann |
oh, particle systems |
| 00:48 |
erlehmann |
is there some sort of cable stuff already? |
| 00:48 |
Menche |
someone made a wirewold a ways back, i forget who |
| 00:48 |
erlehmann |
like, cables laying on the ground? |
| 00:48 |
Menche |
mesecons? |
| 00:48 |
VanessaE |
erlehmann: mesecons |
| 00:48 |
kaeza |
mesecons :) |
| 00:48 |
erlehmann |
PilzAdam did. |
| 00:48 |
erlehmann |
VanessaE, explain how mesecons works! |
| 00:48 |
erlehmann |
also, anyone of you in berlin or around that part of europe? |
| 00:48 |
VanessaE |
erlehmann: wish I could, I barely understand it myself - but basically, it's TTL electronics for minetest. |
| 00:48 |
Menche |
like redstone, there's a nice tutorial map somewhere on the forum |
| 00:49 |
VanessaE |
wires, gates, microcontrollers, and a host of items that respond to electrical signals |
| 00:49 |
erlehmann |
VanessaE, what i am suggesting is using this! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireworld |
| 00:49 |
jojoa1997 |
vanessae did you restart server |
| 00:49 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: it's up when you're ready to sign in |
| 00:49 |
kaeza |
erlehmann, why not use Adam's wireworld? |
| 00:50 |
erlehmann |
kaeza, does not look nice. |
| 00:50 |
jojoa1997 |
you mean right now it is down |
| 00:50 |
erlehmann |
i will make it look better! |
| 00:50 |
kaeza |
gl hf :) |
| 00:50 |
Menche |
there should be a wireworld standalone game mode with a completely flat map and signlike wireworld nodes |
| 00:50 |
erlehmann |
theoretically, we can have cells in minetest https://uhra.herts.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/2299/1735/1/901918.pdf |
| 00:50 |
erlehmann |
and living things |
| 00:50 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: the server is up and I'm on it near where you were at last. |
| 00:51 |
erlehmann |
Menche, i think wireworld is easy enough to work in a normal game too. |
| 00:51 |
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| 00:51 |
jojoa1997 |
signing on |
| 00:51 |
erlehmann |
are there animated nodes in minetest already? |
| 00:51 |
kaeza |
erlehmann, nope |
| 00:51 |
erlehmann |
me and teddydestodes wanted to make a mechanics mod |
| 00:51 |
jojoa1997 |
xyz's build today seems glitchy or it is your server |
| 00:51 |
erlehmann |
but he never merged his stuff |
| 00:51 |
Menche |
erlehmann, yes |
| 00:51 |
erlehmann |
did someone merge the rain? |
| 00:51 |
marktraceur |
Ooh, teddydestodes. It has been a long time. |
| 00:51 |
jojoa1997 |
i think it is my pc/xyz's build though |
| 00:51 |
Menche |
fire, water, and torches are animated |
| 00:52 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: aw crap, I know what went wrong with pipes. give me a few mins to fix them. |
| 00:52 |
Menche |
i want to make animated leaves, so it looks like there's wind |
| 00:52 |
kaeza |
you mean animated textures or *proper* nodes? |
| 00:52 |
jojoa1997 |
ok and sync with github I WANT WORKING PIPES |
| 00:52 |
erlehmann |
animooted nodes |
| 00:52 |
kaeza |
animated textures = yes |
| 00:52 |
kaeza |
animated nodes = no |
| 00:53 |
jojoa1997 |
also did you get the stuff from transport pipes to go in furnace |
| 00:53 |
Menche |
luaentities suppport animated meshes |
| 00:53 |
mauvebic |
wireworld rules look simple enough |
| 00:53 |
mauvebic |
its not even terribly different from what i did with pipes |
| 00:54 |
mauvebic |
reminds me of something i read about living systems |
| 00:54 |
Menche |
would it be terribly inefficient to animate a node by repeatedly swapping out a series of nodeboxes? |
| 00:55 |
mauvebic |
you can animated a node via texture or changing the node |
| 00:55 |
mauvebic |
rapiidly changing the nodes can get laggy |
| 00:55 |
erlehmann |
i have these mods they are not compatible. need to fix them again! |
| 00:55 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: there, that should fix it. |
| 00:55 |
jojoa1997 |
just look at the animated water in default |
| 00:55 |
Menche |
erlehmann: which mods? |
| 00:56 |
erlehmann |
http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/src/minetest-mods/ |
| 00:56 |
erlehmann |
Menche, moss that creeps across stones if they are in the dark |
| 00:56 |
erlehmann |
and a companion cube |
| 00:56 |
Menche |
sounds nice |
| 00:56 |
erlehmann |
and a sponge that keeps out water |
| 00:56 |
erlehmann |
and obsidian |
| 00:56 |
Menche |
sponge sounds really useful for making underwater bases |
| 00:57 |
Menche |
might use it when its updated |
| 00:57 |
erlehmann |
http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/pics/screenshots/games/minetest/minetest-companion-cube.png |
| 00:57 |
erlehmann |
http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/pics/screenshots/games/minetest/minetest-mod-bottle.png |
| 00:57 |
erlehmann |
oh, i had a cement mod |
| 00:57 |
erlehmann |
http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/pics/screenshots/games/minetest/minetest-cement-aggregate-crafting.png |
| 00:57 |
Menche |
there are various bottles now, and i believe mauvebic is working on a cement mod |
| 00:58 |
erlehmann |
my one was working |
| 00:58 |
erlehmann |
http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/pics/screenshots/games/minetest/minetest-cement-bucket-crafting.png |
| 00:58 |
erlehmann |
here cement bucket |
| 00:58 |
mauvebic |
cements' already done |
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| 00:58 |
erlehmann |
and then it was put in http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/pics/screenshots/games/minetest/minetest-cement-pouring-1.png |
| 00:58 |
erlehmann |
obsidian was when lava and water met http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/pics/screenshots/games/minetest/minetest-obsidian.png |
| 00:58 |
erlehmann |
there is an obsidian knife |
| 00:59 |
mauvebic |
cement -> liquids -> http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2323 dries into stone & all |
| 00:59 |
Menche |
now i feel like browsing around the really old mod pages |
| 00:59 |
erlehmann |
i need to get into minetest coding again |
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| 00:59 |
erlehmann |
Menche, because those are really old mods |
| 01:00 |
Menche |
remember using home_mod, i think for the paint |
| 01:00 |
marktraceur |
erlehmann: FYI, big event going down on Saturday |
| 01:00 |
marktraceur |
erlehmann: Going to try to document the codebase better |
| 01:00 |
erlehmann |
is there a current sponge mod? |
| 01:00 |
Menche |
and the old farming mod was my favorite |
| 01:00 |
mauvebic |
well you can worldedit out all the water |
| 01:00 |
mauvebic |
or use invisible boundary blocks |
| 01:01 |
Menche |
normal players wouldn't have worldedit |
| 01:01 |
erlehmann |
how activate mods? |
| 01:01 |
* VanessaE |
pokes at jojoa1997 for signs of life |
| 01:01 |
Menche |
once an unauthorized player got worldedit on my server, i've never seen so much lava |
| 01:01 |
Menche |
lol |
| 01:01 |
erlehmann |
there is a directord mods/minetest in which i have put the mods |
| 01:01 |
erlehmann |
put they do not show up |
| 01:01 |
mauvebic |
thats something i dont get: why have it if users cant use it? |
| 01:01 |
Menche |
for admins and moderators |
| 01:02 |
* jojoa1997 |
jumps up and puts a kitten on VanessaE's head |
| 01:02 |
Menche |
erlehmann: in ~/.minetest/mods/minetest |
| 01:02 |
erlehmann |
VanessaE apparently has made lots of mods |
| 01:02 |
erlehmann |
Menche, boo, not freedesktop compatible |
| 01:02 |
mauvebic |
is that because no one's figured out how to check worldedit regions against protection zones? |
| 01:02 |
VanessaE |
yep, I have made a few |
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| 01:03 |
Menche |
erlehmann: what would be freedesktop compatible? |
| 01:03 |
Uberi |
did someone say WorldEdit? |
| 01:04 |
erlehmann |
Menche, using .local/share/minetest/mods for mods, .config/minetest/… for config, .cache/minetest usw. usw. |
| 01:04 |
Menche |
i know .desktop files are for freedesktop but i don't know much else |
| 01:04 |
Uberi |
if so, all you have to do is override minetest.env:add_node |
| 01:04 |
Menche |
ah ok |
| 01:04 |
erlehmann |
Menche, http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html |
| 01:04 |
Menche |
ok |
| 01:07 |
Uberi |
yes, Protector-like mods should definitely override add_node and set_node just to make sure no mods can get around it |
| 01:11 |
erlehmann |
where is the mods? |
| 01:11 |
Menche |
you have to create the mods/minetest folders if they don't exist |
| 01:11 |
marktraceur |
Heh, usw. usw. |
| 01:11 |
marktraceur |
That seems wrong |
| 01:11 |
marktraceur |
erlehmann: What keyboard layout are you using? |
| 01:11 |
erlehmann |
Neo2 |
| 01:11 |
erlehmann |
i only see minimal development game |
| 01:11 |
Menche |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game |
| 01:11 |
Menche |
games go in ~/.minetest/games (create if it doesn't exist) |
| 01:11 |
mauvebic |
a well planned node proteciton should be the next thing to be included imo |
| 01:11 |
erlehmann |
Menche, i do not understand |
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| 01:11 |
Menche |
there are multiple game modes. the main one is minetest_game |
| 01:11 |
Menche |
game modes are placed in ~/.minetest/games |
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| 01:11 |
Menche |
minetest has two official repos now; the main game mode is https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game |
| 01:11 |
erlehmann |
so i have ~/.minetest/mods/doors ? |
| 01:11 |
VanessaE |
~/.minetest/mods/minetest/doors |
| 01:11 |
jojoa1997 |
mauvbic: help vanessae intigrate your code into hers for pipeworks |
| 01:11 |
Menche |
~/.minetest/mods/minetest/doors |
| 01:11 |
erlehmann |
wat |
| 01:11 |
erlehmann |
okay |
| 01:11 |
Menche |
or ~/.minetest/mods/minimal/doors to use it in minimal |
| 01:13 |
erlehmann |
i will repair minetest sponge first |
| 01:13 |
init |
minimal doesn't have a lot of things what are included in the minetestgame |
| 01:14 |
mauvebic |
they should update minimal to be like minetest_game without all the trimmings |
| 01:14 |
mauvebic |
id use it |
| 01:14 |
kaeza |
quick question: 1 unit in blender == 1 unit in minetest? |
| 01:14 |
Menche |
and the minimal textures should be changed to the minetest_game textures |
| 01:14 |
Menche |
and the menubg should be made the new dirt rather than the old one |
| 01:15 |
mauvebic |
except for sand cuz it looks better lol |
| 01:15 |
Menche |
has anyone noticed the TAPE AND GLUE written vertically down the side of the singleplayer tab? |
| 01:16 |
Menche |
is that still there? |
| 01:16 |
mauvebic |
:/ |
| 01:16 |
mauvebic |
havent noticed |
| 01:16 |
VanessaE |
Menche: yes |
| 01:17 |
Menche |
also, the configure button on the singleplayer tab is also a placeholder |
| 01:17 |
Menche |
doesn't do anything |
| 01:20 |
mauvebic |
jesus the mob war here is far from over lol they just found 3 more bodies |
| 01:20 |
mauvebic |
never a slow news day lol |
| 01:21 |
erlehmann |
i have NO MODS LOADING |
| 01:21 |
erlehmann |
:( |
| 01:21 |
mauvebic |
whats really funny:our last mayor quit a month ago over corruption allegations, the new mayor is already being investigated for the same lol |
| 01:21 |
mauvebic |
where did you put them? |
| 01:23 |
erlehmann |
in /home/erlehmann/.minetest/mods/minetest/ |
| 01:23 |
Menche |
you do have RUN_IN_PLACE disabled? if not they go in [minetest build folder]/mods/minetest |
| 01:23 |
Menche |
and you |
| 01:23 |
VanessaE |
erlehmann: are you running a run-in-place build or system-wide? |
| 01:23 |
Menche |
oops, hit enter |
| 01:23 |
Menche |
and you are using minetest_game? |
| 01:23 |
mauvebic |
i usually put them in /usr/share/minetest/games/... but thats arch |
| 01:23 |
erlehmann |
VanessaE, in-place. |
| 01:24 |
erlehmann |
VanessaE, should I recompile? |
| 01:24 |
VanessaE |
erlehmann: what Menche said :-) |
| 01:24 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Is the new mayor being charged with corrupting the investigation of the previous mayor's corruption? |
| 01:24 |
VanessaE |
put them in celeron55-minetest-blahblah/mods/minetest |
| 01:24 |
erlehmann |
Menche, how i use minetest_game? |
| 01:24 |
erlehmann |
i only see minimal |
| 01:24 |
mauvebic |
no he prolly already had his hand in the cookie jar and took the post to conceal that fact lol |
| 01:24 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: If so, is it possible that the previous mayor is corrupting that investigation into the current mayor's corruption scandal about corrupting the previous mayor's corruption investigation? |
| 01:24 |
mauvebic |
kinda like burlesconi lol |
| 01:24 |
VanessaE |
erlehmann: minetest_game goes in celeron55-minetest-blahblah/games |
| 01:24 |
mauvebic |
sp? |
| 01:24 |
Menche |
put the minetest_game in [minetest build folder]/games for run in place |
| 01:25 |
VanessaE |
then you create a new world aroundf it |
| 01:25 |
VanessaE |
-f |
| 01:26 |
mauvebic |
marktraceur well montreal is a shit city, we pay more for infrastructure than anywhere else in america i think |
| 01:26 |
mauvebic |
and it still falls on our heads lol |
| 01:26 |
mauvebic |
i dont think much of paying taxes or fines either lol |
| 01:26 |
erlehmann |
now i see minetest_game |
| 01:27 |
erlehmann |
Menche, VanessaE, give me a filesystem tree layout |
| 01:27 |
Menche |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/README.txt#L41 |
| 01:27 |
Menche |
info about paths |
| 01:27 |
mauvebic |
if you see the mod folders default and bucket, thats prolly the place you want to put your mods :-) |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
erlehmann: |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
celeron55-minetest-blahblah |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
games |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
minetest_game |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
minimal |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
mods |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
minetest |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
particles |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
doors |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
... |
| 01:27 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: Pastebin |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
like that, except I guess I coulda put some lines in there too :-) |
| 01:28 |
erlehmann |
ah. |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: too late, that's all of it :D |
| 01:28 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: And next time, you won't do that |
| 01:28 |
Menche |
I disable RUN_IN_PLACE on one of my builds and use ~/.minetest/mods/minetest |
| 01:28 |
mauvebic |
erlehmann http://www.zimg.eu/i/2258140834 |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
on my machine I use a system-wide install, so trade celerom55-minetest-blahblah for ~/.minetest |
| 01:29 |
VanessaE |
s/om/on/ |
| 01:29 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Bet you have some kickass roads, though! |
| 01:30 |
mauvebic |
marktraceur http://images.lpcdn.ca/435x290/200910/01/112877.jpg |
| 01:30 |
mauvebic |
they used 70's gangsters instead of rebars lol |
| 01:31 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: At least it was on dry land! |
| 01:31 |
erlehmann |
oh, you need to enter a name for the game |
| 01:31 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-35W_Mississippi_River_bridge#Collapse |
| 01:32 |
marktraceur |
Minnesota. Them's my peeps. |
| 01:32 |
mauvebic |
omg i saw that video on youtube a year ago |
| 01:32 |
erlehmann |
looks very comic-like |
| 01:32 |
Uberi |
it's insane |
| 01:32 |
mauvebic |
that was fucked up too |
| 01:32 |
erlehmann |
intredasting |
| 01:32 |
Uberi |
all I thought was, "I sure hope those people had car insurance" <_< |
| 01:32 |
mauvebic |
my father was a civil engineer so i always had an interest in that sortof thing lol |
| 01:33 |
erlehmann |
oh, the water is animooted! |
| 01:33 |
VanessaE |
erlehmann: you should see the game with my HDX pack installed ;) |
| 01:33 |
erlehmann |
VanessaE, i am not interested in high resolution |
| 01:33 |
VanessaE |
it comes in low-rez as well |
| 01:34 |
mauvebic |
oh come on, i redid all my crops in 32px :p |
| 01:34 |
mauvebic |
you can actually tell a strawberry from a tomato, its epic |
| 01:34 |
erlehmann |
oh funny |
| 01:34 |
erlehmann |
:3 |
| 01:34 |
mauvebic |
:p |
| 01:34 |
erlehmann |
o.0 |
| 01:35 |
mauvebic |
there tis' http://www.zimg.eu/i/2632589185 |
| 01:35 |
init |
i don't see any point of "not using some hdx pack" |
| 01:35 |
mauvebic |
slow computers |
| 01:35 |
mauvebic |
you have to make room for everyone |
| 01:35 |
init |
? |
| 01:35 |
init |
mauvebic: netbook here |
| 01:35 |
mauvebic |
i got one too |
| 01:36 |
mauvebic |
i get weird polygons that aren't part of the program when yaw changes |
| 01:36 |
mauvebic |
netbooks have funky graphics drivers on linux lol |
| 01:36 |
init |
intel atom n270 + Intel Mobile 945GME |
| 01:36 |
mauvebic |
still better than windows 7 lol |
| 01:36 |
mauvebic |
lemme check |
| 01:36 |
init |
+ 128x texture pack, like 2 or 3 FPS less than the default |
| 01:36 |
mauvebic |
emachines 355 series |
| 01:37 |
init |
with the 512x version i have between 20 to 30 FPS in a default world + minetestgame :P |
| 01:37 |
mauvebic |
N455 Atom, |
| 01:37 |
init |
better than mine |
| 01:37 |
init |
well, my netbook is old |
| 01:37 |
mauvebic |
the netbook convinced me to buy an LED screen |
| 01:37 |
VanessaE |
my HDX goes from 16px to 512px. enough options there for anyone. |
| 01:37 |
mauvebic |
(for the towers) |
| 01:37 |
init |
it has between 3 to 4 years |
| 01:38 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: you should make a 2x2 texpack! |
| 01:38 |
mauvebic |
i had an older emachines model, the battery and webcam were nearly fried lol |
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| 01:38 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: no. :-) |
| 01:38 |
init |
Uberi: 1x1! |
| 01:38 |
mauvebic |
so i sold it for half the price |
| 01:38 |
init |
i'm going to buy a x6 6100 + gt 610 |
| 01:38 |
init |
amd fx x6 :D |
| 01:39 |
mauvebic |
i always buy the cheapest notebooks/towers and upgrade the parts (parts are cheaper then buying a *nice* tower from the shop) |
| 01:39 |
mauvebic |
besides a *nice* tower in stores me alot of everything, and i only want alot of certain things (gfx, storage) |
| 01:39 |
VanessaE |
brb |
| 01:39 |
mauvebic |
*me = has |
| 01:40 |
Uberi |
I want a 1x1 texpack |
| 01:40 |
Uberi |
all this high res 16x16 is driving me nuts |
| 01:40 |
Dogzilla131 |
who can give me a website where the images are not copyrighted? Its for mod of pokemon blocks :D |
| 01:40 |
mauvebic |
my old P4 : the only original parts is the motherboard and P4 lol |
| 01:40 |
Uberi |
reusableart.org, Dogzilla131? |
| 01:40 |
Menche |
i made a 4x4. haven't noticed any fps difference |
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| 01:41 |
Menche |
however, some weird rendering bugs don't affect the 4x4 textures |
| 01:41 |
mauvebic |
howdy gambit |
| 01:41 |
Gambit |
Sup? |
| 01:41 |
erlehmann |
oh, a fire animation! |
| 01:42 |
marktraceur |
Gambit: Any trouble with any of these hooligans? |
| 01:42 |
init |
mauvebic: where do you live? |
| 01:42 |
Dogzilla131 |
Uberi: org? |
| 01:42 |
Gambit |
marktraceur: landmine was back yesterday |
| 01:42 |
marktraceur |
Guh. |
| 01:42 |
marktraceur |
Gambit: Have some logs? |
| 01:42 |
Gambit |
I'm really tired. I just turned my computer on to watch The Dark Knight :< |
| 01:42 |
marktraceur |
19% for my own entertainment, but also so I can ban some of his IPs |
| 01:43 |
Uberi |
hello Gambit |
| 01:43 |
Gambit |
Tomorrow maybe. |
| 01:43 |
Uberi |
marktraceur: I'm sure he doesn't REALLY have infinite IPs |
| 01:43 |
marktraceur |
*nod* |
| 01:43 |
Menche |
once I banned landmine's entire netblock |
| 01:43 |
Uberi |
eventually he has to run out |
| 01:43 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: Infinite, no. But we'll chip away. |
| 01:43 |
Menche |
he was the only one on that isp |
| 01:43 |
Uberi |
what |
| 01:43 |
init |
the banlist isn't infinite |
| 01:44 |
Menche |
he could only get IPs from a certain group, and I banned the whole thing |
| 01:44 |
Dogzilla131 |
Who else knows a website that has not copy righted images that may have pokemon images? |
| 01:44 |
init |
i think /ignore just works better |
| 01:44 |
mauvebic |
cant we program the game to crash just for him? |
| 01:44 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: It's against the LGPL |
| 01:44 |
marktraceur |
(or if it isn't, the LGPL is wrong) |
| 01:44 |
erlehmann |
who is landmine? |
| 01:45 |
erlehmann |
wat |
| 01:45 |
marktraceur |
erlehmann: A really prolific griefer and troll |
| 01:45 |
Menche |
a notorious troll/griefer |
| 01:45 |
marktraceur |
erlehmann: Causes trouble in game and on IRC |
| 01:45 |
Uberi |
marktraceur: how is it against the GPL? :P |
| 01:45 |
marktraceur |
erlehmann: Gambit here is an op at #minecraft and has had similar trouble |
| 01:45 |
Dogzilla131 |
Who else knows a website that has not copy righted images that may have pokemon images? |
| 01:45 |
Uberi |
Dogzilla131: no such thing, Pokemon itself is copyrighted |
| 01:45 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: Freedom 0 is the freedom to use the software for anything. That includes "being LandMine". |
| 01:46 |
marktraceur |
And besides, he could very simply remove the code that made that change |
| 01:46 |
Uberi |
marktraceur: he is free to use it, though it is not necessarily for what he wants it to do |
| 01:46 |
mauvebic |
fine, lets' call it the anal filter and we can ban whoever is anal like landmine |
| 01:46 |
Menche |
marktraceur: i think that applies to being able to get, modify, and use the code |
| 01:46 |
Uberi |
the GPL disclaims warranty, after all |
| 01:46 |
Dogzilla131 |
Uberi right then should i acknowledge the site where i got the images? |
| 01:46 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: The solution in this case is probably to have adequate admin tools, not trying to prevent a client from acting in a certain way |
| 01:47 |
Uberi |
Dogzilla131: no, the rights to pokemon are reserved and you can't legally use them without permission from the creators |
| 01:47 |
Uberi |
marktraceur: of course, it is more of a thought experiement |
| 01:47 |
marktraceur |
Dogzilla131: Except for fair use, which is complicated, look it up or consult with a lawyer |
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mauvebic |
you could always rig the jail mod to pick up on all his hicks |
| 01:47 |
Uberi |
marktraceur: oh are you aware of the rollback workaround he brought up? |
| 01:48 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Hehe, hicks. |
| 01:48 |
Menche |
is there a way to autoban players with names like llIIIIIllllIII? |
| 01:48 |
Uberi |
Dogzilla131: yeah fair use applies usually to educational or personal purposes though |
| 01:48 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: I know about rollback, yeah. Never enabled it, pretty useless. |
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| 01:48 |
Uberi |
Menche: sure, a mod could probably do that |
| 01:48 |
marktraceur |
Menche: Totally possible with regexes. |
| 01:48 |
Dogzilla131 |
I wont win money |
| 01:48 |
Menche |
l and I are identical in some fonts, makes it hard to ban them |
| 01:48 |
Uberi |
Dogzilla131: doesn't matter, though |
| 01:48 |
marktraceur |
Well, maybe not |
| 01:49 |
marktraceur |
May need to run it through some functions |
| 01:49 |
Uberi |
Dogzilla131: you are distributing that content, you are bound by copyright law |
| 01:49 |
VanessaE |
note to self: the big red switch turns the computer off. gracelessly. :-) |
| 01:49 |
marktraceur |
if has_consecutive_chars( name ) then minetest.fucking_ban_that_bitch( name ) |
| 01:49 |
marktraceur |
end |
| 01:49 |
Menche |
marktraceur: awesome function name :) |
| 01:49 |
Uberi |
heheh |
| 01:50 |
marktraceur |
Coming soon: marktraceur's profanity-laced Minetest API! |
| 01:50 |
Uberi |
woooo |
| 01:50 |
Dogzilla131 |
Uberi: Ok then i won't do it. |
| 01:50 |
Gambit |
Copyright 101 should be a highschool course |
| 01:50 |
marktraceur |
minetest.register_a_goddamn_node( |
| 01:50 |
Gambit |
Some day... |
| 01:50 |
marktraceur |
minetest.if_you_wanna_craft_this_shit( |
| 01:50 |
Menche |
minetest.what_the_hell_is_player_pointing_at() |
| 01:50 |
Uberi |
marktraceur: I'd use that |
| 01:51 |
Uberi |
heheheh |
| 01:51 |
Gambit |
So many people over at Wesnoth think it's okay to make Lord of the Rings add-ons if they just "give credit" |
| 01:51 |
Uberi |
Gambit: perhaps followed by a good smackin' upside the head |
| 01:51 |
marktraceur |
minetest.where_the_hell_is_the_closest( 'default:dirt_with_grass' ) |
| 01:51 |
Gambit |
Uberi: Well it goes both ways. |
| 01:51 |
Gambit |
People violate others' copyrights. |
| 01:51 |
Gambit |
But they also have no clue about their own. |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
immediately followed by classes on fair use and when to ignore copyrights. |
| 01:52 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: One-second class on when to ignore copyrights: ALWAYS |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
(e.g. "Why should I care if Steamboard Willy is copyrighted") |
| 01:52 |
Uberi |
Gambit: definitely, all content creators should be aware of their and everyone else's rights |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: remember, without copyrights, copyleft wouldn't exist. |
| 01:52 |
marktraceur |
Thanks, that'll be $50, you can send your checks to Mark Holmquist Community Colleg, PO Box..... |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
Steamboat* |
| 01:53 |
VanessaE |
brb |
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| 01:54 |
VanessaE |
there we go. finally got my system up-to-date. |
| 01:54 |
VanessaE |
damn new kernels anyway |
| 01:54 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: new kernels are the best! |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: sure, if they fix something user-facing. otherwise it's just another reason to reboot ;-) |
| 01:55 |
mauvebic |
ive gotten used to testing new images on spare partitions lol i dont know why |
| 01:55 |
Uberi |
my friend upgraded his kernel, and he won the lottery the day after |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 01:56 |
Dogzilla131 |
Uberi: then ill change from pokemond to Dog breeds :D |
| 01:56 |
Dogzilla131 |
is that better |
| 01:56 |
Uberi |
totally |
| 01:56 |
erlehmann |
oh, there are slabs! |
| 01:57 |
VanessaE |
erlehmann: and lots more :-) |
| 01:57 |
Uberi |
and stairs! |
| 01:57 |
VanessaE |
and 3d players, oh my! |
| 01:57 |
kaeza |
Dogzilla131, Dog Breeds are © 0 G*d, Inc. All Rights Reserved. |
| 01:57 |
Dogzilla131 |
:S |
| 01:59 |
Dogzilla131 |
then ill make my own dog breeds :P |
| 01:59 |
Dogzilla131 |
jk, too hard, and to risky for the dogs |
| 01:59 |
Dogzilla131 |
health |
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erlehmann |
i need to code mod :) |
| 02:13 |
NakedFury |
mod or source. both welcomed |
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| 02:15 |
Kacey |
hello |
| 02:15 |
erlehmann |
how i have a sponge node but it cannot into being picked up |
| 02:15 |
Menche |
hi |
| 02:15 |
Uberi |
hey Kacey |
| 02:16 |
Kacey |
Menche: have you decided yet? |
| 02:16 |
Kacey |
Uberi hi |
| 02:16 |
Menche |
Kacey: I'll begin work on it tonight after I finish my homework |
| 02:16 |
Kacey |
homework sux lol |
| 02:16 |
Menche |
well, continue work. a basic world is up |
| 02:16 |
Menche |
with minimal |
| 02:17 |
Kacey |
orly? |
| 02:17 |
Kacey |
menche.servegame.net? |
| 02:17 |
Menche |
i just have to add mods and make a new world |
| 02:17 |
Menche |
and configure spawn point, etc. |
| 02:17 |
Menche |
that is, if I use a new world |
| 02:18 |
Menche |
yes, there should be a junk world with minimal game on menche.servegame.com:30000 |
| 02:18 |
Kacey |
well as i said you can make a new map and put the old map on a different server |
| 02:19 |
Menche |
I only have one working computer capable of running a server right now |
| 02:19 |
Kacey |
run two servers on the same computer but diff. ports |
| 02:19 |
Menche |
really, I only have the wits and patience to admin one |
| 02:20 |
kaeza |
erlehmann, explain |
| 02:20 |
Menche |
what with the recent return of lm and max |
| 02:20 |
Menche |
not sure if my pentium 4 is powerful enough for 2 servers |
| 02:20 |
Kacey |
simple ban them both until they show they are worthy |
| 02:20 |
erlehmann |
kaeza, i make sponge mod. it displaces water |
| 02:21 |
Menche |
would anyone here know one of lm |
| 02:21 |
Menche |
's ips? |
| 02:21 |
Menche |
sorry, hit enter |
| 02:21 |
Menche |
if I have an ip I can look up his netblock |
| 02:22 |
Menche |
erlehmann: you can't dig the block? you have to add snappy, choppy, etc groups. |
| 02:22 |
Menche |
look at existing mods and lua_api.txt |
| 02:23 |
Kacey |
haha spammed menche's server |
| 02:24 |
Menche |
I saw your connection on the log :) |
| 02:24 |
Kacey |
haha |
| 02:24 |
Menche |
going afk for maybe half an hour, its dinnertime |
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| 02:27 |
erlehmann |
hat is „snapp†group? |
| 02:27 |
erlehmann |
snappy? |
| 02:29 |
erlehmann |
Menche, what is snappy? |
| 02:29 |
Kacey |
he is afk |
| 02:32 |
erlehmann |
great |
| 02:32 |
erlehmann |
my sponge mod works again! |
| 02:32 |
kaeza |
erlehmann, link? |
| 02:33 |
erlehmann |
kaeza, let me make it better, wait a few minutes |
| 02:33 |
kaeza |
k |
| 02:33 |
kaeza |
tyt |
| 02:34 |
Kacey |
mmmmmmm popcorn |
| 02:35 |
kaeza |
Kacey, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/minetest/mods/Kaeza-teather_decor.png |
| 02:36 |
Menche |
erlehmann: snappy is like leaves and i think papyrus |
| 02:36 |
xrendan |
where can i get that mod? |
| 02:36 |
kaeza |
xrendan, mine? |
| 02:39 |
Kacey |
wb Menche |
| 02:40 |
Menche |
i think i'll begin downloading the old map |
| 02:41 |
Menche |
is it strange to use git for map backups? i figured it would be really easy to revert to a given backup with git |
| 02:41 |
Kacey |
can i have a copy of the old map? |
| 02:42 |
Menche |
can use .tar.gz archives? the git host i'm using doesn't use zipx |
| 02:42 |
Menche |
*zips |
| 02:42 |
Menche |
and its a large download |
| 02:43 |
Menche |
anyway, the link is https://gitorious.org/minetest_worlds_menche/server_world_1/archive-tarball/master |
| 02:43 |
Menche |
it may take a while to generate |
| 02:44 |
Kacey |
would mesecons go on the old map? |
| 02:44 |
Menche |
to be precise, it is 305 MB |
| 02:45 |
Menche |
? you could use mesecons on it, there aren't any mesecon constructions in the world though |
| 02:46 |
Kacey |
thats what i meant |
| 02:46 |
Menche |
mesecons had been mostly removed from the world. There are a few entities that weren't removed. |
| 02:47 |
Menche |
wonder if my machine can run mesecons |
| 02:47 |
Menche |
also, i'll see if carts run |
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| 02:49 |
Kacey |
carts would be good |
| 02:49 |
Kacey |
how much RAM on your machine |
| 02:49 |
Menche |
2.5G |
| 02:50 |
Menche |
and about 2G of swap, but that should never be used |
| 02:51 |
Kacey |
jeez i rock 768mb and i can run mesecons without a problem |
| 02:51 |
Menche |
maybe performance has improved |
| 02:52 |
Menche |
also, the server was previously on my liddle Atom netbook |
| 02:52 |
* kaeza |
has 4GB but mobs are still a problem |
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| 02:52 |
kaeza |
wb V |
| 02:52 |
Kacey |
i have a LITTLE acer netbook |
| 02:52 |
kaeza |
having problems? |
| 02:52 |
Menche |
acer aspireone here |
| 02:53 |
Kacey |
same here |
| 02:53 |
VanessaE |
that's much better |
| 02:53 |
VanessaE |
clean out a little dust from the computers and the power usage drops by 100W. |
| 02:53 |
Kacey |
still running xp on it? |
| 02:53 |
VanessaE |
damn home remodeling is doing a number on our PCs as well as our lungs |
| 02:53 |
Menche |
who, me? I've always been debian on my servers |
| 02:53 |
kaeza |
heh |
| 02:54 |
Kacey |
i run xubuntu on my acer |
| 02:54 |
VanessaE |
xubuntu ftw! |
| 02:54 |
kaeza |
no |
| 02:54 |
Menche |
once my laptop would regularly overheat and shutdown while doing nothing. |
| 02:54 |
kaeza |
puppy ftw! |
| 02:54 |
Menche |
I blasted the vents out with compressed air and now I can run xonotic with full settings and it just gets a bit warm |
| 02:54 |
Menche |
Arch FTW! |
| 02:54 |
Menche |
IMO debian stable is the best for servers |
| 02:55 |
kaeza |
Windows ftw! <== KILL ME |
| 02:55 |
Menche |
i hadn't touched my server for a few months and it only had like 2 updates |
| 02:55 |
Kacey |
haha OS X for fancy graphics linux for developing and windows for suicide |
| 02:56 |
kaeza |
nope |
| 02:56 |
kaeza |
Windows for gaming :) |
| 02:56 |
kaeza |
*real* gaming :)( |
| 02:56 |
Menche |
apple makes me use windows |
| 02:56 |
kaeza |
-( |
| 02:56 |
Menche |
have a dual-booted windows, the only thing i use it for is iTunes and jailbreak stuff for my iPod |
| 02:57 |
Kacey |
windows will force an update when you are in the middle of a game |
| 02:57 |
Menche |
SC2 runs just fine in Linux under Wine for me |
| 02:57 |
kaeza |
brb gonna install black mesa deathmatch on Win7 ^_^ |
| 02:57 |
Kacey |
i dual-booted windows when it erased the config file |
| 02:57 |
Menche |
and minecraft runs native, well, as native as Java can be ;) |
| 02:58 |
Kacey |
but i have to make bill gates mad |
| 02:59 |
Menche |
and now I like windows even less |
| 02:59 |
Menche |
i can't figure out how to close a window in windows 8 |
| 02:59 |
* kaeza |
is now installing bm:d in wine instead |
| 02:59 |
Kacey |
windows 8 sux |
| 03:00 |
Menche |
windows 8 apparently can only display full-screen programs |
| 03:00 |
Menche |
so, windows no longer has windows |
| 03:00 |
* Kacey |
cannot figure out why nobody believed him about the old computer |
| 03:00 |
Kacey |
upper left corner :) |
| 03:00 |
Menche |
what? |
| 03:01 |
Kacey |
put your mouse in one of the left corners |
| 03:01 |
Kacey |
and may i suggest using desktop mode? |
| 03:01 |
VanessaE |
jeez, Minetest weighs in at 80W on my computer |
| 03:01 |
Kacey |
wow |
| 03:01 |
Menche |
my way of fixing windows' problems: reformat to ext4 and install linux |
| 03:03 |
Kacey |
my way of fixing windows : straight up install lnux :) |
| 03:03 |
Menche |
yep :) |
| 03:03 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, my physics teacher would be pissed off by that statement |
| 03:04 |
kaeza |
she would say "Use the damn correct unit" :) |
| 03:04 |
Menche |
what, weighing in Watts? lol |
| 03:04 |
Menche |
how many watts are in a gram? |
| 03:05 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: well *technically*....at 121VAC input...that would translate to around 0.66A. |
| 03:05 |
Menche |
ok, world downloaded, now to upload the needed mods |
| 03:05 |
VanessaE |
that's enough info to figure out the electron charge, which can then be converted to mass :-) |
| 03:06 |
kaeza |
....ok...I guess... |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
which, in turn, can be used to figure out the actual weight of the game at 1G :-) |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
so your physics teacher either better be smart enough to follow the same train of thought, or one of us is an idiot ;-) |
| 03:06 |
* Kacey |
wonders how much minetest weighs |
| 03:07 |
Kacey |
my science teacher was confused today about the fourth dimension |
| 03:07 |
erlehmann |
VanessaE, how make i something instant breakable with hand, like flowers? |
| 03:07 |
Menche |
if you could figure out the weight of one of the magnetic particles on a hard disk platter |
| 03:07 |
VanessaE |
erlehmann: I'm not sure, something about dig_immediate in digging groups in your mod |
| 03:07 |
VanessaE |
or latest minetest which has something like that in creative mode |
| 03:08 |
erlehmann |
VanessaE, how you do it with hands? |
| 03:08 |
erlehmann |
with plants? |
| 03:08 |
VanessaE |
I didn't :-) |
| 03:08 |
Menche |
oddly_breakable_by_hand is one of the groups |
| 03:08 |
VanessaE |
I just gave them normal groups :-) |
| 03:08 |
erlehmann |
like? |
| 03:09 |
kaeza |
dig_immediate=2 |
| 03:09 |
kaeza |
IIRC |
| 03:09 |
VanessaE |
groups = { snappy = 3,flammable=2, flower=1 }, |
| 03:09 |
kaeza |
take a look at how torches are implementes |
| 03:09 |
kaeza |
ted* |
| 03:09 |
VanessaE |
that's the bulk definition used in flowers |
| 03:09 |
VanessaE |
waterlilies and seaweed are similar. |
| 03:10 |
Menche |
minetest, or homework? *sigh* |
| 03:10 |
VanessaE |
Menche: minetest, obviously. |
| 03:11 |
Menche |
thats what i did last semester |
| 03:11 |
Menche |
:( |
| 03:12 |
kaeza |
brb |
| 03:13 |
Menche |
aaaand mods transferred, now for the config |
| 03:14 |
Menche |
forget what the old world's static spawn was |
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| 03:16 |
kaeza |
back |
| 03:16 |
xrendan |
How do you select the world to run in linux? |
| 03:16 |
Menche |
--map-dir |
| 03:16 |
Kacey |
--worldname name or --world pat |
| 03:16 |
kaeza |
--world-dir |
| 03:16 |
Kacey |
that none ^ |
| 03:16 |
Kacey |
one, even |
| 03:17 |
xrendan |
thanks] |
| 03:17 |
* kaeza |
will now play NFS:MW |
| 03:17 |
Menche |
not --world-dir, --map-dir |
| 03:17 |
* Oblivion1500 |
is playing games to stay in shape:) |
| 03:18 |
Menche |
Sprinting miles carrying 100s of tons of stone is great exercise |
| 03:19 |
xrendan |
kI'm getting ERROR[main]: Subgame [] could not be found. when I try to run it |
| 03:19 |
kaeza |
xrendan: can you show us the line you use? |
| 03:19 |
Kacey |
kaeza : 360? |
| 03:19 |
kaeza |
Kacey: win7 |
| 03:20 |
Kacey |
windows of course |
| 03:20 |
Kacey |
i have it for the 360 |
| 03:20 |
Menche |
a windows user? *wields steel sword* |
| 03:20 |
xrendan |
root Brendan:~/celeron55-minetest-c691d61/bin# minetestserver --world ~/celeron55-minetest-c691d61/world/fun |
| 03:20 |
kaeza |
wanna play a race? |
| 03:20 |
Kacey |
no |
| 03:21 |
kaeza |
:( |
| 03:21 |
Kacey |
the ea servers are shut down for mw on the 360 |
| 03:21 |
kaeza |
oh sh*t |
| 03:21 |
Kacey |
plus im at my grandmas |
| 03:21 |
erlehmann |
sponge! http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/pics/screenshots/games/minetest/minetest-sponge-2.png |
| 03:22 |
VanessaE |
cool, my HDX sponge texture will finally get some use ;) |
| 03:22 |
kaeza |
erlehmann: put big round eyes on it and a pair of teeth :P |
| 03:22 |
VanessaE |
bad kaeza! bad! no cookie for you! |
| 03:22 |
erlehmann |
nope |
| 03:22 |
erlehmann |
VanessaE, you have a sponge texture? |
| 03:22 |
VanessaE |
erlehmann: somewhere around here I have one for HDX, yeah. it was for an old mod that has long since disappeared. |
| 03:23 |
erlehmann |
guess who made that old mod! |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
hehe |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
guess I better dust off the textures then ;) |
| 03:23 |
erlehmann |
early sponge looked like this http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/pics/screenshots/games/minetest/minetest-sponge.png |
| 03:24 |
Menche |
is there a good way to replace all old xdoors doors? |
| 03:24 |
Menche |
all my server's doors are unknown blocks :( |
| 03:24 |
Kacey |
abm |
| 03:25 |
Menche |
i think I'll just have it remove them, replacing them with the right orientation will be a pain |
| 03:25 |
mrtux |
Menche, does your minetest server still exist? |
| 03:25 |
mrtux |
I miss it |
| 03:25 |
mrtux |
;_; |
| 03:26 |
Menche |
as of 2 seconds ago, yes |
| 03:26 |
mrtux |
nice |
| 03:26 |
Menche |
your house is gone, though |
| 03:26 |
mrtux |
it's okay |
| 03:26 |
Menche |
map corruption i think |
| 03:26 |
Kacey |
he is working on strating the old world up |
| 03:26 |
mrtux |
nice |
| 03:26 |
mrtux |
I loved that server |
| 03:26 |
Kacey |
what was with that furnace in the ocean? |
| 03:26 |
Menche |
its up, btw. passwords should be the same |
| 03:26 |
mrtux |
I remember playing on it pretty much every day |
| 03:26 |
mrtux |
ah |
| 03:26 |
mrtux |
IP? |
| 03:26 |
Menche |
menche.servegame.com:30000 |
| 03:26 |
Kacey |
will check tomorrow morning |
| 03:26 |
mrtux |
okay |
| 03:26 |
Kacey |
i must go to bed for now |
| 03:27 |
Kacey |
no i have a few minutes |
| 03:27 |
xrendan |
Where should I put the world since when I compiled the game there wasn't a world folder like in windows |
| 03:27 |
Menche |
i still have to install the node ownership, fix the doors, add another protection mod |
| 03:27 |
Kacey |
make a worlds foldoe |
| 03:27 |
Menche |
perhaps a few other things |
| 03:27 |
Kacey |
folder, even |
| 03:27 |
Kacey |
are privs the same? |
| 03:28 |
Menche |
xrendan: did you do RUN_IN_PLACE? |
| 03:28 |
kaeza |
xrendan: ~/.minetest/worlds |
| 03:28 |
erlehmann |
VanessaE, Kacey, mrtux, Menche, http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/src/minetest-mods/sponge.tar.gz |
| 03:28 |
erlehmann |
is there a mod database? |
| 03:28 |
Menche |
Kacey: thats another thing i have to fix. You should have the same privs you had, though. and passwords should be the same |
| 03:28 |
* kaeza |
was not highlighted by erlehmann |
| 03:28 |
Kacey |
ya i am in |
| 03:28 |
kaeza |
:( |
| 03:29 |
erlehmann |
MEIN NAME IST MINETEST JA |
| 03:29 |
erlehmann |
ICH BIN IN LUA SKRIPTBAR JA |
| 03:29 |
erlehmann |
DAS BETRIEBSSYSTEM IST DAS PROBLEM JA |
| 03:29 |
erlehmann |
:3 |
| 03:29 |
Menche |
erlehmann: http://multa.bugs3.com/minetest/forum/ |
| 03:29 |
xrendan |
Menche: yes I did |
| 03:29 |
VanessaE |
erlehmann: forums, Mod Releases section |
| 03:29 |
kaeza |
nicht |
| 03:29 |
Menche |
xrendan: if RUN_IN_PLACE is enabled, [minetest build folder]/worlds, if disabled, ~/.minetest/worlds |
| 03:29 |
VanessaE |
erlehmann: you need to rename your image file |
| 03:30 |
erlehmann |
vanessaE, why? |
| 03:30 |
VanessaE |
it should be sponge_sponge_bob.png or similar |
| 03:30 |
VanessaE |
that's how mods are done now |
| 03:30 |
VanessaE |
modname_imagename_variation.png |
| 03:30 |
erlehmann |
it is named bob. |
| 03:30 |
erlehmann |
the mod is sponge |
| 03:30 |
kaeza |
YAY! can we make Patrick now? :3 |
| 03:30 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 03:30 |
erlehmann |
so the texture name is sponge_bob.png |
| 03:30 |
erlehmann |
:D |
| 03:31 |
erlehmann |
kaeza, he has the special superpower of livin under a rock? |
| 03:31 |
kaeza |
and flooding the world with his drooling :D |
| 03:32 |
xrendan |
Menche and kaeza: Thanks a lot |
| 03:32 |
kaeza |
xrendan: yw ;) |
| 03:32 |
erlehmann |
well, i think spongebob will be useful |
| 03:32 |
erlehmann |
for example to prevent underwater facilities from being flooded |
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| 03:33 |
VanessaE |
erlehmann: well now all you gotta do is make an appropriate topic in Modding General and one of us will move it to Releases :-) |
| 03:33 |
erlehmann |
VanessaE, how i post topic lol? |
| 03:34 |
erlehmann |
i will just post somewhere. |
| 03:35 |
xrendan |
I keep getting ERROR[main]: Subgame [] could not be found. |
| 03:35 |
Kacey |
i must go |
| 03:37 |
xrendan |
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO FIX THIS? |
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| 03:37 |
xrendan |
sorry caps lock was on |
| 03:37 |
xrendan |
:( |
| 03:38 |
xrendan |
nevermind I'm dumb |
| 03:38 |
VanessaE |
erlehmann: justhead to the forums, find the Modding General section, and hit the link near the top right |
| 03:39 |
VanessaE |
http://forum.minetest.net/post.php?fid=9 |
| 03:40 |
VanessaE |
^^^ the link in question |
| 03:42 |
erlehmann |
You do not have permission to access this page. |
| 03:43 |
erlehmann |
it seems you don't want me to post there? |
| 03:43 |
VanessaE |
wha? |
| 03:43 |
VanessaE |
did you log in? |
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| 03:48 |
erlehmann |
VanessaE, why would i log in somewhere? |
| 03:48 |
VanessaE |
erlehmann: most of us are logged in when we post on the forums :-) |
| 03:48 |
VanessaE |
as in, forum account, etc. |
| 03:49 |
erlehmann |
VanessaE, why would you need an account to post something? |
| 03:50 |
VanessaE |
erlehmann: I'm just guessing, I don't run the forums after all :-) |
| 03:51 |
erlehmann |
VanessaE, i posted on an imageboard where i do not need an account |
| 03:51 |
VanessaE |
oh. |
| 03:51 |
TheZenKitteh |
most sites that require accounts is due to the trolls and spammers that ruined it for the rest of us |
| 03:52 |
erlehmann |
http://krautchan.net/board/prog/thread/2114#2114 |
| 03:52 |
TheZenKitteh |
no idea what site or forum you talk of since I wasn't here for that |
| 03:52 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 03:52 |
erlehmann |
TheZenKitteh, i hear that often, but do you have evidence that registration cuts down on trolls? |
| 03:52 |
erlehmann |
i mean people in this IRC channel did not have to register, did they? |
| 03:53 |
TheZenKitteh |
it keeps out the lazy ones |
| 03:53 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 03:53 |
erlehmann |
? |
| 03:53 |
TheZenKitteh |
I personally hate having to have an account to post a comment on blogs and such |
| 03:54 |
erlehmann |
TheZenKitteh, evidence that trolls are more lazy than other users? |
| 03:54 |
TheZenKitteh |
forums I can see a mix of anonymous and non but forums tend to get a lot of bots that cause a lot of chaos |
| 03:54 |
erlehmann |
the trolls i know are less lazy and very committed to trolling |
| 03:54 |
TheZenKitteh |
I didn't say all trolls are lazy.. just some are and account registration keeps those out |
| 03:54 |
TheZenKitteh |
account registration to a degree discourages bots as well.. or at least makes the bot owners life a little harder |
| 03:54 |
erlehmann |
TheZenKitteh, and account registration keeps me out, who wanted to contribute. |
| 03:55 |
TheZenKitteh |
then you have captchas which I hate as well |
| 03:55 |
TheZenKitteh |
for forums it takes like 3 mins to register |
| 03:55 |
erlehmann |
TheZenKitteh, how many spam problems do you have on 4chan outside of random? |
| 03:55 |
TheZenKitteh |
most browsers also can save login info and you can set it to keep you logged in on most forums |
| 03:55 |
TheZenKitteh |
I don't go to 4chan |
| 03:55 |
TheZenKitteh |
anymore |
| 03:55 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 03:56 |
erlehmann |
TheZenKitteh, iso every person who wishes to contribute shall spend 3 minutes (which in my case would be more than i spent writing my post) to register because some people are trolls? |
| 03:56 |
TheZenKitteh |
as of now and recent I've been devoting my spare time to learning, minetest and writing |
| 03:56 |
TheZenKitteh |
you have spent more than 3 mins complaining about it :P |
| 03:56 |
erlehmann |
I do not see the evidence that it keeps out more trolls than non-trolls. |
| 03:57 |
TheZenKitteh |
you could have already registered wherever it is and posted and be doen |
| 03:57 |
TheZenKitteh |
done* |
| 03:57 |
erlehmann |
TheZenKitteh, because I want to understand how people think that registration keeps out trolls? |
| 03:57 |
erlehmann |
I am writing a book on that topic |
| 03:57 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 03:57 |
erlehmann |
well, not actually on that topic |
| 03:57 |
erlehmann |
but on internet memes |
| 03:57 |
erlehmann |
and registration vs. anonymous use is a big thing for culture |
| 03:57 |
TheZenKitteh |
personally my view is there is really very few cases where account registration is "needed" |
| 03:57 |
TheZenKitteh |
but I have adapted since the places I have accounts I like |
| 03:57 |
erlehmann |
all the internet memes do not come from facebook |
| 03:58 |
TheZenKitteh |
the rest I use bugmenot or just don't use them |
| 03:58 |
OldCoder |
marktraceur, which area? |
| 03:58 |
erlehmann |
so where is the bugmenot for minetest forum? |
| 03:58 |
TheZenKitteh |
likely doesn't exist |
| 03:58 |
TheZenKitteh |
minetest isn't very well known yet |
| 03:58 |
TheZenKitteh |
however I found registering for the minetest forum to be worth the time |
| 03:58 |
TheZenKitteh |
since I do contribute |
| 03:58 |
erlehmann |
why? |
| 03:59 |
erlehmann |
what is the benefit of registering for me as a user? |
| 03:59 |
TheZenKitteh |
took me less than 3 mins and I've had the account over a year now |
| 03:59 |
TheZenKitteh |
profile, avatar, credit |
| 03:59 |
erlehmann |
is there anything that *needs* the registration technically? |
| 03:59 |
TheZenKitteh |
people can verify it is you |
| 03:59 |
TheZenKitteh |
you can tie a "name" to your work |
| 03:59 |
erlehmann |
I can do that already |
| 03:59 |
erlehmann |
have a blog and a PGP key and email and Git |
| 03:59 |
TheZenKitteh |
you can also use it to build reputation within the community |
| 04:00 |
TheZenKitteh |
sadly not many use gpg from what I've seen |
| 04:00 |
VanessaE |
erlehmann: some Minetest servers also require you to register on the forums first. Redcrab's, mine, maybe others. |
| 04:00 |
TheZenKitteh |
seems nobody I talk to uses it for communications or verification lol |
| 04:00 |
TheZenKitteh |
dtamedia server requires you not only have a forum account but have some rep too. the reason is trolls and griefers |
| 04:00 |
TheZenKitteh |
it works too |
| 04:00 |
erlehmann |
VanessaE, why? |
| 04:01 |
TheZenKitteh |
those with rep generally don't want to lose it |
| 04:01 |
erlehmann |
what do trolls do? |
| 04:01 |
VanessaE |
erlehmann: in the case of servers, it helps cut down on griefing. |
| 04:01 |
erlehmann |
VanessaE, what is your trollserver called? |
| 04:01 |
VanessaE |
I have no trollserver, just a server :-) |
| 04:01 |
TheZenKitteh |
player spends hours on a project. troll/griefer comes and destroys all their work. player gets pissed as they cannot do anything to get troll/griefer back. server suffers |
| 04:01 |
VanessaE |
(vanessae.mine.bz:30000) |
| 04:01 |
erlehmann |
vanessa.mine.bz? |
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erlehmann |
TheZenKitteh, wouldn't it be easier to declare a structure built by a person to be immutable as long as that person is there? |
| 04:04 |
TheZenKitteh |
sadly currently there is no decent griefer protection for servers that don't welcome griefers |
| 04:04 |
TheZenKitteh |
till there is server admins have to do what they can |
| 04:04 |
erlehmann |
oh interesting |
| 04:04 |
erlehmann |
VanessaE, you have an extensive filtering |
| 04:05 |
VanessaE |
filtering? |
| 04:05 |
erlehmann |
there are many things |
| 04:05 |
erlehmann |
is that a trampolin there? |
| 04:05 |
VanessaE |
you mean the inventory thing? that's RealBadAngel's work :-) |
| 04:05 |
VanessaE |
and yes |
| 04:05 |
TheZenKitteh |
from what I could tell dtamedia has "harshest" requirements for new players and thus has few players at this time. however those who do play have very little chance at losing their hard work |
| 04:05 |
erlehmann |
trampolin mod is a cool thing |
| 04:05 |
erlehmann |
whoever coded that? :D |
| 04:06 |
NakedFury |
support minetest: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4437 |
| 04:06 |
TheZenKitteh |
btw vanessae if I recall right didn't you say before that your server automatically restarts if it crashes? |
| 04:07 |
VanessaE |
TheZenKitteh: yes, as long as the crash is the sort that result in it exiting rather than locking up. |
| 04:07 |
VanessaE |
erlehmann: Jeija did. |
| 04:07 |
erlehmann |
battery box? |
| 04:07 |
erlehmann |
weird game |
| 04:07 |
TheZenKitteh |
how do you do that vanessae? |
| 04:07 |
erlehmann |
but one could use it for wireworld! |
| 04:08 |
VanessaE |
TheZenKitteh: a one-line script: while true; do sleep 1; minetestserver -various options here; done |
| 04:08 |
erlehmann |
rails are everywhere |
| 04:08 |
VanessaE |
erlehmann: Technic mod. Also RealBadAngel's. |
| 04:08 |
erlehmann |
most popular thing i contributed to the game i think :D |
| 04:09 |
erlehmann |
oh, chairs |
| 04:10 |
erlehmann |
that flower looks familier |
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kaeza_ |
back on 'buntu |
| 04:12 |
TheZenKitteh |
hola mi amigo |
| 04:12 |
kaeza |
hola Gatito Zen ^_^ |
| 04:12 |
TheZenKitteh |
no habla gatito |
| 04:12 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 04:12 |
kaeza |
:3 |
| 04:13 |
erlehmann |
i do not see any creative commons attribution on there o.0 http://www.cafepress.com/mf/75702611/minetest_tshirt |
| 04:13 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol kitten |
| 04:13 |
kaeza |
wassup? |
| 04:13 |
* TheZenKitteh |
so tired and sore and want coffee but don't wanna get up and make it |
| 04:14 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 04:14 |
TheZenKitteh |
there's a lot I want to do tonight but so wore out lol |
| 04:14 |
kaeza |
why don't they make comps with built-in coffee maker? |
| 04:15 |
TheZenKitteh |
don't know |
| 04:15 |
TheZenKitteh |
but if I seen a comp with such id buy it |
| 04:15 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
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erlehmann |
lol solar panel |
| 04:16 |
kaeza |
solar panel + not gate = instant night detector :3 |
| 04:16 |
erlehmann |
lol |
| 04:16 |
kaeza |
I use them for the street lights in my city ^_^ |
| 04:17 |
TheZenKitteh |
that reminds me wtf is a "not gate" |
| 04:17 |
TheZenKitteh |
seen it but never could figure out its purpose |
| 04:17 |
TheZenKitteh |
didn't think to look aorund too much |
| 04:17 |
kaeza |
negates the binary value |
| 04:17 |
kaeza |
logic stuff |
| 04:17 |
kaeza |
not 1 = 0 |
| 04:18 |
kaeza |
or "not on" = "off" |
| 04:18 |
kaeza |
"not off" = "on" |
| 04:19 |
kaeza |
TheZenKitteh, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverter_(logic_gate) |
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Leroy |
Hello? |
| 04:31 |
Leroy |
? |
| 04:32 |
VanessaE |
hi |
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kaeza |
lol |
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kaeza |
just said hello and left? |
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kaeza |
zzz |
| 04:45 |
TheZenKitteh |
im somewhat here |
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TheZenKitteh |
lol |
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jakssoul |
I've a question for you guys. |
| 05:05 |
jakssoul |
If I connect to a wireless network, say a McDonald's free wifi, what information about my PC do they receive? |
| 05:05 |
jakssoul |
Just my MAC address? |
| 05:07 |
NakedFury |
All your online activity can be recorded |
| 05:08 |
NakedFury |
I asked that on another channel btw. I myself dont know |
| 05:12 |
TheZenKitteh |
anything anyone on a local network could |
| 05:12 |
TheZenKitteh |
mcdonalds has some things in place to help keep others on the hotspot from connecting to you.. but nothing stopping mcdonalds from doing so |
| 05:12 |
TheZenKitteh |
a vpn is a good idea |
| 05:13 |
TheZenKitteh |
dang I wish I knew more php |
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VanessaE |
zzzz |
| 06:27 |
NakedFury |
slow night |
| 06:28 |
TheZenKitteh |
hey vanessae and nakedfury |
| 06:28 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 06:28 |
TheZenKitteh |
I would be talking but I just sorted through over 2000 unread emails from the account I forgot my password to and finally remembered it |
| 06:29 |
TheZenKitteh |
sadly non were important ~_~ |
| 06:29 |
VanessaE |
always keep a record of your passwords, preferably in an encrypted file |
| 06:29 |
VanessaE |
(so yeah, lock them behind yet another password ;) ) |
| 06:29 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol I always rely on memory |
| 06:30 |
TheZenKitteh |
not good but about the best I can do without risking compromise |
| 06:30 |
TheZenKitteh |
I've never in my life had anyone hijack any account of mine |
| 06:30 |
VanessaE |
me neither. |
| 06:30 |
NakedFury |
write in a physical notebook |
| 06:30 |
NakedFury |
and hide it |
| 06:30 |
NakedFury |
or leave it in plain sight |
| 06:30 |
NakedFury |
fake diary stuff |
| 06:31 |
NakedFury |
passwords in between your daily things |
| 06:31 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol password in encrypted file hidden in an image then encrypted again and wrote to a cd which is hidden in hollow of a door in a way you can't access without looking from top? |
| 06:31 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 06:31 |
VanessaE |
no, just a simple encrypted file with an impossible-to-guess password that I can still remember :-) |
| 06:32 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol I "had" a password I thought was easy to remember |
| 06:32 |
VanessaE |
if I had any sense at all, I'd keep the file on a thumbdrive |
| 06:32 |
TheZenKitteh |
used it to encrypt some backups |
| 06:32 |
TheZenKitteh |
forgot it |
| 06:32 |
TheZenKitteh |
just because it was over 30 characters shouldn't mean anything |
| 06:32 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 06:32 |
VanessaE |
jeez |
| 06:33 |
TheZenKitteh |
but that pasword was 3 nicknames of people I know |
| 06:33 |
TheZenKitteh |
however I don't recall one of them |
| 06:33 |
TheZenKitteh |
oddly that part of memory went poof |
| 06:33 |
TheZenKitteh |
plus various case |
| 06:33 |
TheZenKitteh |
I thinkt he case screwed me |
| 06:34 |
TheZenKitteh |
oh well im getting older I need to stop being quite so paranoid |
| 06:34 |
TheZenKitteh |
brain can't keep up as well as my younger brain |
| 06:34 |
NakedFury |
buy a cute teddy bear and inside hide you small usb thumbthingy with all passwords |
| 06:35 |
TheZenKitteh |
im my late teens my encryption passwords were over 60 characters mixed case numbers and letters and symbols and memorized |
| 06:35 |
TheZenKitteh |
had no issue |
| 06:35 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 06:35 |
NakedFury |
holy. mine since always has been the same, SAME 10 character pass |
| 06:35 |
TheZenKitteh |
decade later.. issue with remembering passwords over 20 characters |
| 06:36 |
TheZenKitteh |
also no two accounts of mine on the net use same pass |
| 06:36 |
TheZenKitteh |
in case one is somehow compromised |
| 06:36 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 06:36 |
NakedFury |
I have started to change passwords |
| 06:36 |
NakedFury |
upper, lower, numbers, words, crazy letters passwords |
| 06:37 |
TheZenKitteh |
oh and of interesting note, some company sent in my recently recovered email a full detailed reservation for some guy I don't even know but with similar name |
| 06:37 |
NakedFury |
and no O [yes to 0 zero] |
| 06:37 |
TheZenKitteh |
including dates flight numbers hotel addresses |
| 06:37 |
TheZenKitteh |
and price |
| 06:37 |
TheZenKitteh |
shows the importance of doublechecking that you typed your email correctly |
| 06:37 |
TheZenKitteh |
good thing im an honest person who wouldn't use such info to do anything |
| 06:38 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 06:38 |
TheZenKitteh |
the info in that email had I had access to my email account at the time.. I bet I could have bluffed some agent to give me the credit card number |
| 06:38 |
TheZenKitteh |
people can be manipulated |
| 06:38 |
TheZenKitteh |
sadly |
| 06:39 |
TheZenKitteh |
take note people.. be careful with your data. there are a lot of nasty people out there that have no issue screwing up your financial life |
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TheZenKitteh |
brb gonna make me a bowl of cereal |
| 06:41 |
OldCoder |
Hi! |
| 06:41 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, PM please |
| 06:44 |
kaeza |
wb OldCoder |
| 06:44 |
TheZenKitteh |
back |
| 06:44 |
kaeza |
wb |
| 06:44 |
TheZenKitteh |
hey oldcoder and kaeza |
| 06:44 |
TheZenKitteh |
ty kaeza |
| 06:44 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, thank you! |
| 06:44 |
* OldCoder |
will catch up with stuff here now |
| 06:44 |
kaeza |
yw ^_^ |
| 06:45 |
TheZenKitteh |
im so happy I recovered my email.. my youtube attached to it is setup with adsense and very high limits on uploads |
| 06:46 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol I think ill take vanessaes advice |
| 06:46 |
NakedFury |
do it |
| 06:46 |
TheZenKitteh |
of course to satisfy myself id have to do it in my own paranoid way |
| 06:46 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 06:47 |
TheZenKitteh |
will have to think how I will store my passwords in a way I feel is "secure enough" |
| 06:47 |
NakedFury |
do you leave alone? |
| 06:47 |
TheZenKitteh |
I currently rent a room from someone |
| 06:47 |
NakedFury |
im pretty sure nobody in your family is interested in your ids/passwords |
| 06:47 |
NakedFury |
ohh |
| 06:48 |
TheZenKitteh |
I will hopefully by mid year have my own place |
| 06:48 |
NakedFury |
sheat of paper inside your favorite book/novel |
| 06:48 |
TheZenKitteh |
I hate living with people |
| 06:48 |
NakedFury |
I havea notebook with invented food recipes for quick snacks and included are my accounts |
| 06:49 |
NakedFury |
im hungry for meat |
| 06:49 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol well for ONE password I had for encrypted backups I wrote it down in the middle of a boring arse book that nobody would read enough to find that single page |
| 06:50 |
TheZenKitteh |
oh and since I don't use it anymore I will tip everyone off on a good place to stash small things.. like maybe a usb thumb drive |
| 06:51 |
TheZenKitteh |
battery area on battery operated appliances that also plug into the wall |
| 06:51 |
TheZenKitteh |
keep it plugged into wall, empty battery compartment, stash item in it. close up |
| 06:51 |
NakedFury |
I need a new thumb drive |
| 06:51 |
NakedFury |
and computer cleaning kit |
| 06:51 |
NakedFury |
really need to clean the small areas |
| 06:52 |
TheZenKitteh |
I just need more flash drives |
| 06:52 |
TheZenKitteh |
I only have two. one is 128MB and one is 4GB |
| 06:52 |
NakedFury |
at least they are cheap now |
| 06:52 |
TheZenKitteh |
well cheapish |
| 06:52 |
TheZenKitteh |
depends on size you want and where you go |
| 06:52 |
TheZenKitteh |
I now want an 8GB which is fairly reasonable at local wally world |
| 06:52 |
TheZenKitteh |
maybe 3 of them |
| 06:52 |
NakedFury |
officemax in my areas was selling animal shaped thumb drives of 8gb for 10 or a little cheaper |
| 06:53 |
NakedFury |
8g or 4gb one of those sizes |
| 06:53 |
TheZenKitteh |
I think the local wally world has some 8GB for around $10 |
| 06:53 |
TheZenKitteh |
a year or so ago when I got the 4GB it was $10 |
| 06:53 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 06:54 |
NakedFury |
I also buy them if they can be place on my keychain for thumb drives |
| 06:54 |
TheZenKitteh |
I like flash drives for booting linux |
| 06:55 |
TheZenKitteh |
allows me to run live distros that offer save files |
| 06:55 |
TheZenKitteh |
like puppy |
| 06:55 |
NakedFury |
never thought of that |
| 06:55 |
TheZenKitteh |
also good for putting linux or windows on to install |
| 06:55 |
NakedFury |
right now I use them for school stuff and big files of designs |
| 06:55 |
TheZenKitteh |
I used to have ALL my personal data on one till I thought what would happen if one day it went poof or was stolen |
| 06:55 |
TheZenKitteh |
like passwords messenger accounts etc |
| 06:56 |
NakedFury |
add some password protection and if you type the wrong pass 3 times it blows up mission impossible style |
| 06:56 |
TheZenKitteh |
it was encrypted but still if lost or borked that would have been stressful |
| 06:57 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol that reminds me of a convo a friend and I had about "physical computer security" |
| 06:57 |
TheZenKitteh |
one "idea" was to mount a few pounds of thermite inside the case and rigged up so if case was opened without proper procedure it would set off thermite |
| 06:57 |
NakedFury |
extreme |
| 06:58 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol well gotta admit if the thermite is over hard drive.. the data will effectively be wiped rather quick |
| 06:58 |
TheZenKitteh |
of course might set house of fire |
| 06:58 |
TheZenKitteh |
well.. more than likely will set house on fire |
| 06:58 |
NakedFury |
yeah you got to face the reality that you might lose the pc |
| 06:59 |
TheZenKitteh |
as it is I've come to grips with the "possibility of losing all data I have" |
| 06:59 |
TheZenKitteh |
its frightening but can be handled |
| 06:59 |
TheZenKitteh |
I still have data I downloaded over dialup in 2001 |
| 06:59 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 07:00 |
NakedFury |
well everything you have can be stolen, we just have to accept that fact and live happy times |
| 07:00 |
TheZenKitteh |
somehow managed to keep hold of it |
| 07:00 |
TheZenKitteh |
well my data can't easily be stolen |
| 07:00 |
TheZenKitteh |
but it could be lost |
| 07:00 |
TheZenKitteh |
hardware failure as example |
| 07:00 |
NakedFury |
hadrware failures after all the security would suck |
| 07:00 |
TheZenKitteh |
in my computing years I've burned up 3 hard drives |
| 07:01 |
TheZenKitteh |
one of them contained a lot of data I did not have backed up elsewhere and was not able to replace |
| 07:01 |
TheZenKitteh |
that sucked |
| 07:01 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 07:01 |
TheZenKitteh |
around 30GB of data.. poof |
| 07:01 |
NakedFury |
I lost that much in music, from sister, mine, brother, mother, etc |
| 07:01 |
TheZenKitteh |
my storage drive is aging as well and about time to be replaced |
| 07:01 |
NakedFury |
I cried a tear |
| 07:02 |
TheZenKitteh |
its about 4 years old now |
| 07:02 |
TheZenKitteh |
I've learned never trust a hard drive older than a year |
| 07:02 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 07:02 |
TheZenKitteh |
however 99% of the data on it I can replace if I had to |
| 07:02 |
TheZenKitteh |
that other 1% worries me |
| 07:02 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 07:03 |
TheZenKitteh |
most of it is project files for a puppy remaster I did awhile back |
| 07:03 |
TheZenKitteh |
they exist nowhere else in that form and im not even sure if that projects iso is even available anymore online |
| 07:03 |
TheZenKitteh |
but if worse came to worse I could replace it as well |
| 07:04 |
TheZenKitteh |
I remember how I did it |
| 07:04 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 07:05 |
TheZenKitteh |
overall though if you think about it all data is is ones and zeros. even the minetest project could in theory be wiped from the face of the planet should say.. a massive geomagnet storm were triggered |
| 07:05 |
TheZenKitteh |
could fry a lot of computers, take down net, ruin a lot of data |
| 07:05 |
TheZenKitteh |
if that happened it would be a huge blow to humanity |
| 07:06 |
NakedFury |
would such an event work on hmm turned off devices? |
| 07:06 |
NakedFury |
disconnected, off, not plugged, etc |
| 07:06 |
TheZenKitteh |
correction my storage drive does have something that may be very difficult to replace.. my 10+GB pdf collection |
| 07:06 |
TheZenKitteh |
depends |
| 07:07 |
TheZenKitteh |
if a super severe geomagnetic storm nothing is safe really |
| 07:07 |
TheZenKitteh |
but generally good idea to unplug everything electronic if a massive CME is heading toward earth |
| 07:07 |
TheZenKitteh |
and yes I keep tabs on that lol |
| 07:07 |
VanessaE |
even the biggest CME won't be able to kill things like CD/DVD backups |
| 07:07 |
TheZenKitteh |
how long it takes to get here depends. could be hours or days |
| 07:07 |
VanessaE |
since those are optical |
| 07:08 |
NakedFury |
that reminds me to buy a better power outlets for the pc stuff |
| 07:08 |
TheZenKitteh |
optical no won't be bothered... however the computers needed to read them may get fried |
| 07:08 |
TheZenKitteh |
such a storm is highly unlikely but it is possible |
| 07:08 |
NakedFury |
hey I have been looking for a new theme/style for the forum and we should upgrade the punbb version too |
| 07:08 |
TheZenKitteh |
just like its highly unlikely but possible a giant asteroid the size of the state of texas could hit earth |
| 07:09 |
* TheZenKitteh |
tries not to think about some things too much |
| 07:09 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 07:09 |
VanessaE |
of course if that happens, we're all fucked :-) |
| 07:09 |
VanessaE |
so who cares about our data then :) |
| 07:10 |
TheZenKitteh |
well asteroid the size of texas might not fek us all.. but it wills urely fek most of us |
| 07:10 |
TheZenKitteh |
like 99+% |
| 07:10 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 07:10 |
NakedFury |
yep in that case go to the nearest weapon store and take some |
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| 07:10 |
NakedFury |
plus food |
| 07:10 |
NakedFury |
then create clans |
| 07:11 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol don't go take from weapons store.. the owners are well armed |
| 07:11 |
NakedFury |
and protect each other or go hermit |
| 07:11 |
NakedFury |
well get there before owner |
| 07:11 |
TheZenKitteh |
owners of most are likely aware of such catastrophe in the making and will already be holed up or already have taken all the weapons out to their home |
| 07:12 |
NakedFury |
ok counter proposal: get a hot looking girl to bait him or a hot looking dude to bait her |
| 07:12 |
NakedFury |
:D |
| 07:12 |
NakedFury |
or just be friends with a gun store owner |
| 07:12 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol won't work |
| 07:12 |
TheZenKitteh |
being close friends is better idea |
| 07:12 |
TheZenKitteh |
especially if good customer as well |
| 07:14 |
* TheZenKitteh |
has had too much free time to look into many things |
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| 07:15 |
TheZenKitteh |
of course games are an outlet for me to temporarily forget what I know and just have fun lol |
| 07:15 |
TheZenKitteh |
and I thank celeron55 for giving me that |
| 07:16 |
TheZenKitteh |
as well as all the mod devs |
| 07:16 |
TheZenKitteh |
and other minetest devs |
| 07:16 |
TheZenKitteh |
without the combined effort, the game wouldn't be where it is now |
| 07:16 |
NakedFury |
yeah so dont get burned out or allow others to pis you off from the game |
| 07:16 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol it takes an amazing lot to piss me off |
| 07:20 |
OldCoder |
NEWS I am updating stuff. Any requests for mod updates, skins, etc. ? |
| 07:21 |
TheZenKitteh |
as before I suggest my mods.. of course im biased |
| 07:21 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 07:21 |
NakedFury |
dont think so |
| 07:21 |
OldCoder |
TheZenKitteh, which mods should I start with? |
| 07:21 |
TheZenKitteh |
don't know.. I try not to be specific in suggestions of my mods unless I play on their server |
| 07:21 |
OldCoder |
All righ |
| 07:21 |
OldCoder |
All right * |
| 07:21 |
OldCoder |
Anybody else? |
| 07:21 |
TheZenKitteh |
id more like if people would give me real good suggestions on how to improve my mods |
| 07:22 |
OldCoder |
Well, TheZenKitteh if I run a couple they may |
| 07:22 |
TheZenKitteh |
seems either nobody uses my mods or can't give any suggestions to improve lol |
| 07:22 |
OldCoder |
Do you wish |
| 07:22 |
NakedFury |
what user are you? |
| 07:22 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: anywhere you're using pipeworks and plantlife, be sure to update those, and you might want to consider my moretrees mod also |
| 07:22 |
OldCoder |
me to try one? |
| 07:22 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, proceeding |
| 07:22 |
VanessaE |
you can get the latest of all three from my game archive. |
| 07:22 |
TheZenKitteh |
texture improvement requests I can't do since I suck so much at making textures but open to texture suggestions |
| 07:23 |
TheZenKitteh |
nakedfury raphael |
| 07:23 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 07:23 |
TheZenKitteh |
I can't remember if I registered raphael on freenode or if someone else did |
| 07:23 |
TheZenKitteh |
either way my password guesses failed so chose a new nick |
| 07:24 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: if you install moretrees on a server, uninstall the old conifers and jungletrees mods if they exist. Also, note that moretrees requires a build from git no older than Jan. 8. |
| 07:24 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
| 07:25 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I better add moretrees later to be safe. Remind me. Right now, Vanessa world updating. HDX. Pipeworks. Plantlife. |
| 07:25 |
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| 07:25 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, tell us of moretrees |
| 07:25 |
NakedFury |
http://0.tqn.com/d/architecture/1/0/K/P/tudor-utica-jc-5240029.JPG having those wood looking lines on the wall as a mod would be interesting for getting that building style |
| 07:25 |
NakedFury |
dont know if a mod already has that |
| 07:26 |
TheZenKitteh |
ooo |
| 07:26 |
TheZenKitteh |
I agree with nakedfury |
| 07:26 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: You're in the Bay Area IIRC |
| 07:26 |
TheZenKitteh |
there needs to be something that can do that |
| 07:26 |
VanessaE |
moretrees uses the engine's L-System plotter to build conifers and jungle trees procedurally instead of doing all the hard work in Lua. Conifers grow at 25+m, jungle trees at -5 to +10m and then only near water. Both are further restricted to biome-like zone via perlin noise. moretrees requires the latest version of plantlife. |
| 07:26 |
OldCoder |
marktraceur, Yes |
| 07:27 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, so moretrees is nice |
| 07:27 |
NakedFury |
yep just the lines and the other stuff transparent so the houses will remain with their intended color |
| 07:27 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: I think Menche (or something) is also, and we were considering doing an in-person thing for the Saturday sprint |
| 07:27 |
OldCoder |
How tested is it? |
| 07:27 |
OldCoder |
marktraceur, What happens Saturday? |
| 07:27 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: Documentation sprint for the engine |
| 07:27 |
OldCoder |
I have been occupied |
| 07:27 |
OldCoder |
Oh? |
| 07:27 |
OldCoder |
Where? |
| 07:27 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: Basically filling up dev.minetest.net |
| 07:27 |
OldCoder |
Heh |
| 07:27 |
marktraceur |
OldCoder: #minetest-doc |
| 07:27 |
OldCoder |
In-person where? |
| 07:28 |
marktraceur |
Oh |
| 07:28 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: yes. If you'd like to see the output thereof, go to my brick house near {-10,7,112} |
| 07:28 |
VanessaE |
in my world |
| 07:28 |
VanessaE |
(or your copy) |
| 07:28 |
marktraceur |
Probably in the city, I can't get much of anywhere else and it would be cool to do e.g. Noisebridge |
| 07:28 |
marktraceur |
Oh, wait, maybe not, the mystery hunt is this weekend, Noisebridge might get slightly co-opted for that |
| 07:28 |
marktraceur |
Errrrr |
| 07:28 |
OldCoder |
:-) |
| 07:29 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, maybe I will update minebest now |
| 07:29 |
marktraceur |
Maybe I can steal my office for it if we come up with enough people, else we could also do a coffee shop |
| 07:29 |
OldCoder |
And try moretrees. But I need people to test and you will be asleep soon. |
| 07:29 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 07:29 |
OldCoder |
marktraceur, I could stop by |
| 07:29 |
celeron55 |
uploaded the site to the server (c55.me) responding to minetest.net now |
| 07:29 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: nicee |
| 07:30 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, how tested is moretrees? |
| 07:31 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: it's been running on my server for about a week |
| 07:31 |
OldCoder |
all right |
| 07:31 |
OldCoder |
I will see |
| 07:31 |
OldCoder |
How easy a new merge with upstream is |
| 07:32 |
celeron55 |
the connection is slow but it does work, and at least i always have the data in hand as it is in my room 8) |
| 07:36 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, well... I was able to merge with upstream |
| 07:36 |
VanessaE |
oh good |
| 07:36 |
OldCoder |
You say... drop conifers and jungletrees |
| 07:36 |
OldCoder |
latest plantlife |
| 07:36 |
OldCoder |
add moretrees |
| 07:36 |
OldCoder |
and it may work? |
| 07:36 |
OldCoder |
Old trees |
| 07:36 |
VanessaE |
yes on all counts. |
| 07:36 |
OldCoder |
will still go? |
| 07:37 |
OldCoder |
Link for moretrees is? |
| 07:38 |
OldCoder |
NEWS Shutting down worlds for updates and so on |
| 07:39 |
kaeza |
OldCoder, awww |
| 07:39 |
kaeza |
:P |
| 07:39 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, Good stuff coming |
| 07:39 |
kaeza |
just kidding OC |
| 07:39 |
OldCoder |
Link for moretrees is? VanessaE |
| 07:39 |
kaeza |
go on |
| 07:39 |
kaeza |
+100000 |
| 07:39 |
VanessaE |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4394 |
| 07:40 |
NakedFury |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=63717#p63717 |
| 07:40 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 07:41 |
OldCoder |
Compiling new server |
| 07:44 |
TheZenKitteh |
im off.. night everybody |
| 07:44 |
TheZenKitteh |
or day |
| 07:44 |
TheZenKitteh |
depends where you are |
| 07:45 |
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| 07:46 |
kaeza |
my farm on octu server https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_1020642839.jpg |
| 07:48 |
kaeza |
front view: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_1020628715.jpg |
| 07:48 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: nice. |
| 07:48 |
kaeza |
thx :P |
| 07:49 |
kaeza |
I should see if I can make one on your server |
| 07:49 |
kaeza |
but too tired for now |
| 07:49 |
OldCoder |
Server built fine |
| 07:49 |
OldCoder |
|
| 07:50 |
OldCoder |
Folks, somebody give me coords or a nifty screenshot please |
| 07:50 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, inside: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/ssss/screenshot_1020655661.jpg |
| 07:50 |
OldCoder |
I may post announcements tonight |
| 07:50 |
OldCoder |
When I do I like to include a screenshot |
| 07:50 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, What'cha got? |
| 07:50 |
kaeza |
a farm ^_^ |
| 07:51 |
OldCoder |
May I see it? Is it in 30004? |
| 07:51 |
kaeza |
yup |
| 07:51 |
OldCoder |
Coords? |
| 07:51 |
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| 07:52 |
kaeza |
OldCoder, -175 44 44 |
| 07:52 |
kaeza |
around there |
| 07:52 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 07:52 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, adding moretrees now |
| 07:53 |
NakedFury |
stuck at connecting to server |
| 07:53 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 07:53 |
NakedFury |
it is minetest.org right? |
| 07:54 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, I am updating |
| 07:54 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, done shortly with moretrees and more stuff |
| 07:55 |
NakedFury |
ok |
| 07:55 |
OldCoder |
Latest git upstream |
| 07:55 |
OldCoder |
Moretrees and other changes coming |
| 07:55 |
OldCoder |
Minutes away! :-) |
| 07:55 |
NakedFury |
I was gonna check if I had something worth screenshoting |
| 07:55 |
NakedFury |
I did add columns and made some villa house on the surface where my hole is |
| 07:56 |
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| 07:56 |
OldCoder |
Oblivion1500, Hi |
| 07:56 |
OldCoder |
I'd love to see it |
| 07:56 |
OldCoder |
Ready soon |
| 07:56 |
Oblivion1500 |
hello! |
| 07:57 |
Oblivion1500 |
you would love to see what? |
| 07:57 |
OldCoder |
Oblivion1500, screenshots of NakedFury work |
| 07:57 |
OldCoder |
Oblivion1500, did you wish |
| 07:57 |
OldCoder |
some type of morechests fix? |
| 07:57 |
Oblivion1500 |
no i think it works fine now untill there is a way to anchor |
| 07:57 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 07:58 |
OldCoder |
One more change |
| 07:58 |
OldCoder |
Jojoa wanted something... |
| 07:58 |
Oblivion1500 |
what is it? |
| 07:58 |
OldCoder |
Spleef Arena update |
| 07:58 |
Oblivion1500 |
oh, whatever that is |
| 07:58 |
Oblivion1500 |
lol |
| 07:58 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 07:58 |
OldCoder |
He was not clear |
| 07:58 |
OldCoder |
I will need to speak with him |
| 07:58 |
OldCoder |
Anybody else want stuff? |
| 07:59 |
OldCoder |
No? |
| 07:59 |
OldCoder |
Proceeding |
| 07:59 |
NakedFury |
spleef is some sort of minecraft invented sport |
| 07:59 |
Oblivion1500 |
uhm.. nothing i know of |
| 07:59 |
OldCoder |
Yep |
| 07:59 |
NakedFury |
no idea how to play it |
| 07:59 |
NakedFury |
never was interested in that |
| 07:59 |
OldCoder |
Oblivion1500, wait |
| 07:59 |
kaeza |
OldCoder, is the mint mod on the server? |
| 07:59 |
OldCoder |
Oblivion1500, was there a patch I should make to craft guide? |
| 07:59 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, is it called mint? |
| 07:59 |
kaeza |
sorry yes |
| 07:59 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, Link? |
| 08:00 |
Oblivion1500 |
hold on let me see |
| 08:00 |
kaeza |
a sec |
| 08:00 |
OldCoder |
Oblivion1500, You like craft guide but say I should patch it |
| 08:00 |
kaeza |
OldCoder, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4111 |
| 08:00 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, R |
| 08:00 |
Oblivion1500 |
there is something that makes it not show everything, its still useful but let me see if there is an update |
| 08:01 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, comment. I don't have it. Safe? Low CPU? Low depends? |
| 08:01 |
NakedFury |
ok uninstalling cmake from pc |
| 08:01 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, Looks pretty heavy. Remind me another time. |
| 08:01 |
kaeza |
OldCoder, normal CPU usage, depends on moreores (already installed) |
| 08:01 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, Does it make a lot of files the way money does? |
| 08:02 |
kaeza |
nope |
| 08:02 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, We can test it |
| 08:02 |
kaeza |
it uses items as currency |
| 08:02 |
OldCoder |
Not tonight though... I may not be awake long enough |
| 08:02 |
OldCoder |
That just leaves craft guide |
| 08:02 |
kaeza |
k that can wait |
| 08:02 |
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| 08:02 |
sema4 |
what is the best way for me to report a bug or deficiency? |
| 08:03 |
OldCoder |
sema4, state it here is one way |
| 08:03 |
OldCoder |
Forums are another |
| 08:03 |
kaeza |
sema4, github issues |
| 08:03 |
sema4 |
ok! |
| 08:03 |
Oblivion1500 |
nothing i can find |
| 08:04 |
sema4 |
i noticed that if i spawn within a nodeblock, i sink into it. if there happens to be nothing below that nodeblock, then i'll keep falling |
| 08:05 |
sema4 |
so say i am standing on a 'slab' when i exit, when i rejoin, i will spawn within that slab's node, and fall through it. |
| 08:06 |
sema4 |
i can create a github account and create an issue there if that would be best |
| 08:06 |
Oblivion1500 |
just go mining lol |
| 08:07 |
sema4 |
sure, except if i didn't have interact privs |
| 08:07 |
sema4 |
etc. |
| 08:08 |
OldCoder |
NEWS Worlds up. Please check out moretrees. NakedFury Let me see your cool places. |
| 08:08 |
OldCoder |
kaeza, visiting the farm now |
| 08:08 |
kaeza |
k |
| 08:08 |
kaeza |
:) |
| 08:10 |
OldCoder |
olsword.png" while building texture |
| 08:10 |
OldCoder |
00:09:37: ERROR[main]: generate_image(): Creating a dummy image for "glooptest_tool_arolsword.png" |
| 08:10 |
OldCoder |
Loaded texture: /laclin/pkg/minetest044/share/minetest/textures/base/pack/sunrisebg.png |
| 08:10 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 08:10 |
OldCoder |
I keep getting gloop errors |
| 08:11 |
NakedFury |
second person to report that error |
| 08:11 |
kaeza |
OldCoder, somebody also reported that to NekoGloop, but he syas he can't reproduce |
| 08:11 |
kaeza |
+it |
| 08:11 |
OldCoder |
Say a few words about the farm |
| 08:12 |
kaeza |
hmm |
| 08:12 |
kaeza |
I'm not very good at words |
| 08:12 |
kaeza |
but well, |
| 08:12 |
OldCoder |
Well what do you grow |
| 08:12 |
NakedFury |
-13,15,554 still needs some touches and outside but I like how its turning |
| 08:12 |
OldCoder |
What is the greenhouse? NakedFury going there next |
| 08:12 |
OldCoder |
That is AngelFury world right? |
| 08:13 |
NakedFury |
yes |
| 08:13 |
kaeza |
I just liked the place for a small cottage, the cottage grew into that house, and I added the farm. |
| 08:13 |
kaeza |
Next I aded the greenhouse, and last the chicken coop |
| 08:13 |
kaeza |
(which as you will see has no chickens yet) |
| 08:14 |
OldCoder |
Nice |
| 08:14 |
kaeza |
I like the country feel of my place |
| 08:14 |
kaeza |
in contrast to fully modernized buildings employing mesecons |
| 08:15 |
kaeza |
or surreal buildings |
| 08:15 |
OldCoder |
Yep |
| 08:17 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, what is your place? |
| 08:17 |
NakedFury |
well I tried doing a roman or greek building I had a picture off for the entrance |
| 08:17 |
OldCoder |
Courtyard |
| 08:18 |
NakedFury |
need to add something to the courtyard, looks too empty |
| 08:18 |
OldCoder |
Classical |
| 08:19 |
OldCoder |
Thank you both |
| 08:19 |
OldCoder |
This concludes our updates for the evening. I'd love to know if the new moretrees mod is working. |
| 08:21 |
VanessaE |
moretrees generally takes 1-2 hours (realtime) before you start to see some results |
| 08:21 |
VanessaE |
I made the trees spawn really slowly to keep from lagging the server. |
| 08:22 |
VanessaE |
also, one more HDX update is on the way up now |
| 08:22 |
VanessaE |
(if github would stop stalling out) |
| 08:23 |
VanessaE |
there we go. |
| 08:23 |
VanessaE |
just added some textures for the jungletrees. |
| 08:24 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, remind me in a day or so for the next update... |
| 08:24 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 08:24 |
OldCoder |
I'm about done for the night |
| 08:24 |
OldCoder |
Though I'm here for emergencies |
| 08:25 |
OldCoder |
Wish to test what's in there now |
| 08:25 |
OldCoder |
Updates break things! |
| 08:25 |
NakedFury |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=63645#p63645 |
| 08:25 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, what is it? |
| 08:25 |
NakedFury |
I like seeing how ore generate |
| 08:25 |
VanessaE |
heh, well this is just HDX stuff, not mods ;-) |
| 08:25 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, true |
| 08:25 |
NakedFury |
[Mod] Perlin-noise based ore generation [perlinore] |
| 08:25 |
kaeza |
wow now there's a pine tree just outside my farm ^_^ |
| 08:25 |
NakedFury |
Casimir a user testing out how ore generate |
| 08:25 |
NakedFury |
and generating on the surface and with colors to check the generation |
| 08:26 |
NakedFury |
pretty cool |
| 08:28 |
NakedFury |
well sleep time for me |
| 08:28 |
NakedFury |
see you all later |
| 08:30 |
kaeza |
c u |
| 08:31 |
kaeza |
I think it's also time for myself to go... my planet needs me :P |
| 08:35 |
VanessaE |
and I think I'll follow suit as well |
| 08:35 |
VanessaE |
night all. |
| 08:35 |
kaeza |
k time to go. night everyone |
| 08:35 |
kaeza |
night V |
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celeron55 |
hell |
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celeron55 |
how on earth can i make apache route non-php urls to .php files |
| 10:05 |
celeron55 |
i have tried MultiViews and some rewrite rules, but nothing happens |
| 10:05 |
celeron55 |
it's like i was doing nothing while i certainly do everything right |
| 10:05 |
celeron55 |
whatever, i'll not do that then |
| 10:06 |
celeron55 |
apparently there is a reason why websites still have .php in their urls 8) |
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ruskie |
yeah... nobody bothers with rewrite rules |
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celeron55 |
anyway, i made this page now: http://minetest.net/support.php |
| 10:08 |
OldCoder |
celeron55, wait... why doesn't an ordinary .htaccess work? |
| 10:08 |
celeron55 |
or more like copied the old donation page and added a link to it... 8) |
| 10:09 |
celeron55 |
OldCoder: i have no idea, some things put in the .htaccess work, while others (at least those two) don't |
| 10:09 |
celeron55 |
even some rewrite rules work, but nothing useful does |
| 10:10 |
celeron55 |
probably i'm failing some obscure thing |
| 10:10 |
celeron55 |
but i don't get any errors either so i'll just skip this |
| 10:14 |
celeron55 |
oh god, i just checked how much in donations i got last year |
| 10:20 |
celeron55 |
i haven't really kept track of these, and haven't kept track of how much i deserve myself |
| 10:21 |
celeron55 |
if i take nothing from 2012 and subtract the cost of the bad hosting, there's something like $100 |
| 10:30 |
celeron55 |
won't pay for much of work, but would be enough for more proper hosting this year or something; not going to hurry with using it though - but if somebody gets good ideas that require money, that's there to use |
| 10:34 |
celeron55 |
i really thought there'd be something like a couple of $10 left 8) |
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* celeron55 |
imagines sitting on a pile of 100 giant dollar bills |
| 10:55 |
whirm1 |
celeron55: what kind of hosting do you need? |
| 10:57 |
OldCoder |
Hi! |
| 10:57 |
celeron55 |
VPS, because i like being able to run any kind of server technologies and eg. being able to build packages on the server if needed |
| 10:57 |
OldCoder |
celeron55, if you need help let me know |
| 10:57 |
OldCoder |
I am moving away from Apache though |
| 10:58 |
OldCoder |
Too bloated |
| 10:58 |
OldCoder |
We use lighttpd and nginx |
| 10:58 |
whirm1 |
celeron55: but how powerful/how much traffic? |
| 10:59 |
celeron55 |
i'll need to host the windows packages in there, which'll make some 60GB/month |
| 11:00 |
celeron55 |
in addition to the website, of which i have not much idea (could ask though) |
| 11:01 |
celeron55 |
adding the site, it'll probably still stay at that scale |
| 11:02 |
celeron55 |
there's not really any considerable need for power i guess |
| 11:03 |
whirm1 |
celeron55: Ok, I'll ask and see if we can provide you a vps, I have to see how much spare bandwith we have. |
| 11:05 |
celeron55 |
there is a strict requirement: it needs to be solid as rock; i've had enough of trying to cope with a broken VPS for the rest of my life |
| 11:07 |
whirm1 |
celeron55: It will be on a physical server we have at ovh, it has never crashed in some 3 years since we set it up, no reboots except for kernel upgrades :) |
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Infinity_69 |
hey guys :D |
| 11:07 |
Infinity_69 |
who loves/likes FPS games? |
| 11:07 |
Infinity_69 |
free ones :d |
| 11:08 |
Infinity_69 |
http://www.planetside2.com |
| 11:08 |
Infinity_69 |
PlanetSide 2 |
| 11:08 |
Infinity_69 |
downloading it now :P |
| 11:08 |
Infinity_69 |
aprox. 7Gb |
| 11:08 |
Infinity_69 |
:d |
| 11:10 |
celeron55 |
people here probably like more of libre ones, not free-to-pay-to-win-and-hopefully-you-like-drm ones 8) |
| 11:11 |
whirm1 |
:D |
| 11:11 |
Zetetic |
The actually free bits of PlanetSide were actually fun a few years back though |
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ruskie |
well according to totalbiscuit it's not a pay to win |
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OpDredd |
It was more "pay to have a wider range of gameplay options" when I played |
| 11:37 |
OpDredd |
Though that was 1 not 2 |
| 11:39 |
celeron55 |
ruskie: having never played the game and respecting totalbiscuit, i guess that's true then |
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Infinity_69 |
hi |
| 11:42 |
Infinity_69 |
im back |
| 11:42 |
Infinity_69 |
PlanetSide 2 is already 18.5% done :d |
| 11:43 |
Infinity_69 |
aprox 1.3 GB |
| 11:43 |
Infinity_69 |
:D |
| 11:43 |
Infinity_69 |
1.3GB / 7 GB |
| 11:46 |
celeron55 |
what's with all the joining and quitting |
| 11:48 |
ruskie |
web chat |
| 11:48 |
ruskie |
people should really be using proper clients |
| 11:48 |
ruskie |
celeron55, considering he hates pay-to-win and is actually actively playing planetside2 I would say so as well hehe |
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Ade96 |
Hi |
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* OldCoder |
will rest now |
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whirm1 |
celeron55: good news :) |
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erlehmann |
do the t-shirts contain attribution and share-alike licensing hints? |
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pandaro |
hi jojoa1997 |
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Kacey |
hello |
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jojoa1997 |
hi |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 15:00 |
jojoa1997 |
hola |
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* jojoa1997 |
signal test |
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jojoa1997 |
help |
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jojoa1997 |
helpo |
| 15:03 |
jojoa1997 |
-hello |
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RealBadAngel |
hello minetest |
| 15:03 |
jojoa1997 |
-on tablet using stupid autocorrect |
| 15:03 |
Kacey |
haha |
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Kacey |
im on my netbook |
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jojoa1997 |
wish i had one |
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RealBadAngel |
#minetest-dev |
| 15:04 |
RealBadAngel |
ooops |
| 15:05 |
Kacey |
donot get the acer aspire one |
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PilzAdam |
hey RealBadAngel |
| 15:05 |
jojoa1997 |
i dont like acer had bad times with it |
| 15:06 |
Kacey |
good |
| 15:06 |
Kacey |
my aspire one is good because of the mods i made to it |
| 15:07 |
jojoa1997 |
my mom got me this tab so i can take it to school |
| 15:10 |
Kacey |
i need a new battery for my netbook so i can take it to high school next year |
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* jojoa1997 |
signal test |
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jojoa1997 |
#minetest-dev |
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jojoa1997 |
signal test |
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Kacey |
huh? |
| 15:19 |
jojoa1997 |
tablet+school connectioon =bad |
| 15:20 |
thaniel |
what tablet? |
| 15:23 |
Kacey |
haha |
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Topic for #minetest is now Please, be courteous, here and in other channels. This isn't a playground. | IRC: Be patient; get to know the rules | HOME: http://minetest.net | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | STATUS: http://servers.minetest.ru/ | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ |
| 15:54 |
Kacey |
it is quiet on the server |
| 15:54 |
Kacey |
channel* |
| 15:55 |
PilzAdam |
it was ;-) |
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NekoGloop |
Meow |
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Kacey |
ooh god here we go |
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celeron55 |
http://cs323330.userapi.com/v323330799/3539/v6CQSc6AiZA.jpg |
| 16:06 |
NekoGloop |
celeron55: Dafuq. |
| 16:06 |
jojoa1997 |
celeron55 is that forme? |
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celeron55 |
it's for the internets, from the internets |
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thexyz |
lol |
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| 16:18 |
Infinity_69 |
hi |
| 16:19 |
Kacey |
not yet |
| 16:19 |
Infinity_69 |
i have a question: give me a Open Source FTP program for the Linux cernel that isnt FileZilla |
| 16:19 |
VanessaE |
morning all. |
| 16:19 |
Calinou |
filezillea |
| 16:19 |
Infinity_69 |
achtung! |
| 16:19 |
Infinity_69 |
:D |
| 16:20 |
Infinity_69 |
NOT FILEZILLA~ |
| 16:20 |
Calinou |
filezilla* |
| 16:20 |
Calinou |
YES FILEZILLA |
| 16:20 |
Calinou |
why not :P |
| 16:20 |
Calinou |
hi VanessaE |
| 16:20 |
Infinity_69 |
that isnt FileZilla |
| 16:20 |
Infinity_69 |
i dont want it! |
| 16:20 |
Calinou |
reason? |
| 16:20 |
Infinity_69 |
idk... :/ |
| 16:20 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 16:20 |
Infinity_69 |
crashes for me? |
| 16:22 |
NekoGloop |
Meow |
| 16:22 |
Infinity_69 |
poolGokeN |
| 16:22 |
Infinity_69 |
! |
| 16:22 |
Infinity_69 |
wait |
| 16:22 |
Infinity_69 |
NekoGloop <=== |
| 16:23 |
Infinity_69 |
Pool Go Ken |
| 16:23 |
Infinity_69 |
:D |
| 16:23 |
Infinity_69 |
no |
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NekoGloop |
weoM |
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Infinity_69 |
Pool, Go Ken! |
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Infinity_69 |
Zeg9 |
| 16:23 |
Zeg9 |
Hi |
| 16:23 |
Infinity_69 |
a FTP program that ISNT filezilla |
| 16:23 |
Infinity_69 |
open source1 |
| 16:24 |
Zeg9 |
gftp ? |
| 16:24 |
Zeg9 |
fireftp (ftp inside firefox) |
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Infinity_69 |
oh nice |
| 16:25 |
Infinity_69 |
thanks |
| 16:25 |
thexyz |
Infinity_69: ftp |
| 16:25 |
thexyz |
mc |
| 16:25 |
Infinity_69 |
what?! |
| 16:25 |
Infinity_69 |
nvm |
| 16:26 |
Infinity_69 |
gonna restart ff... |
| 16:26 |
Infinity_69 |
brb |
| 16:26 |
Infinity_69 |
bbl |
| 16:26 |
Infinity_69 |
what ever |
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Zeg9 |
thexyz, I don't think he'll like it... but maybe |
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thexyz |
well, then filezilla |
| 16:28 |
Infinity_69 |
no! |
| 16:28 |
Infinity_69 |
fireftp |
| 16:28 |
Infinity_69 |
GREAT |
| 16:28 |
Infinity_69 |
:D |
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* Jordach |
pokes VanessaE |
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* Infinity_69 |
pokes Jordach |
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* Kacey |
pokes himself |
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* Infinity_69 |
pokes Kacey, VanessaE and Jordach |
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* Kacey |
deflects the poke |
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Kacey |
no. |
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* Infinity_69 |
hides behind the corner |
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VanessaE |
ow. |
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* Infinity_69 |
comes in all chilled and shit |
| 16:30 |
Infinity_69 |
hey Kacey, Vanessa :D |
| 16:30 |
Infinity_69 |
sup :d |
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* Kacey |
super pokes Infinity_69 |
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* Infinity_69 |
punches Kacey in ze face! |
| 16:31 |
* Infinity_69 |
knocks Kacey out |
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* Kacey |
wakes up |
| 16:31 |
Kacey |
hehe |
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* Infinity_69 |
is stunned |
| 16:31 |
Kacey |
KITTENS!!!!!!! |
| 16:31 |
Infinity_69 |
ugh... |
| 16:31 |
Infinity_69 |
<:/ |
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* Kacey |
runs off |
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* Infinity_69 |
chases Kacey |
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* Infinity_69 |
jumps on Kacey |
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* Infinity_69 |
snaps Kacey's neck |
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* Jordach |
places a kitty on VanessaE's head |
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* Infinity_69 |
runs away |
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* Kacey |
runs over to VanessaE and steals the kitten |
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Infinity_69 |
Jordach, just get on with it -.- |
| 16:32 |
Infinity_69 |
dont tease |
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marktraceur |
Infinity_69: That seems a bit uncalled for |
| 16:32 |
Infinity_69 |
xD |
| 16:32 |
Infinity_69 |
ok |
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* Infinity_69 |
revives Kacey |
| 16:32 |
Kacey |
i never die |
| 16:32 |
Kacey |
i had damage disabled :D |
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* Infinity_69 |
is stunned yet again |
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* Jordach |
sighs |
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Infinity_69 |
ugh... ,<:/ |
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* Infinity_69 |
pulls out a Glock |
| 16:33 |
* Infinity_69 |
points at Jordach |
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* Infinity_69 |
shoots himself |
| 16:33 |
Jordach |
a vein has moved on my right hand and is interfering with one of my knuckles |
| 16:33 |
Infinity_69 |
x.x |
| 16:33 |
Jordach |
s/on/in |
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Kacey |
i hate veins moving |
| 16:33 |
Jordach |
it hurys. |
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Jordach |
hurts.* |
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Kacey |
thank you marktraceur |
| 16:34 |
marktraceur |
Kacey: No problem. Getting on my nerves too. |
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HesDeadJim |
He's Dead, Jim! |
| 16:34 |
HesDeadJim |
He commited suicide! |
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HesDeadJim |
he just Glock'd himself! |
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HesDeadJim |
Why, Infinity, Why! |
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* Jordach |
had /ignore Infinity_69 all a long while ago |
| 16:35 |
HesDeadJim |
Why didn't you kill me instead! |
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* Jordach |
shoots HesDeadJim square in the head |
| 16:35 |
Jordach |
there. |
| 16:35 |
Jordach |
(best way to describe a muting, aint it?) |
| 16:35 |
TheZenKitteh |
o_O |
| 16:36 |
Jordach |
:P |
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marktraceur |
I'll unmute him when I get into work. |
| 16:36 |
marktraceur |
I ride! |
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* Jordach |
is falling apart |
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* TheZenKitteh |
grabs some duct tape |
| 16:39 |
TheZenKitteh |
nothin duct tape won't fix |
| 16:39 |
jojoa1997 |
keys talk about Minetest and not death |
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* Jordach |
has had a shitty day: it snowed and transport was late as fuck. |
| 16:40 |
TheZenKitteh |
do you like tea or coffee jordach? |
| 16:40 |
Jordach |
both |
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Kacey |
Jordach: where do you live? |
| 16:40 |
marktraceur |
jojoa1997: Well especially with recent events, joking about suicide might not be the greatest idea. |
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* TheZenKitteh |
passes a cup of digital tea to jordach |
| 16:41 |
jojoa1997 |
it does notb snow where I am just is 85° |
| 16:42 |
TheZenKitteh |
jordach.. you didn't go saying you were gonna kill yourself did you? I don't know you but I feel there would be a loss if anyone here even attempted such |
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jojoa1997 |
markt where you live |
| 16:42 |
jojoa1997 |
brb log getting to big |
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jojoa1997_ |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4447 |
| 16:44 |
Jordach |
TheZenKitteh, i just feel like shit atm |
| 16:44 |
jojoa1997_ |
jojoa1997 ping out already |
| 16:44 |
Jordach |
Kacey, N52.756508044806004, E1.303899049758928 |
| 16:44 |
Jordach |
google map that |
| 16:45 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: jeez, false precision much? |
| 16:45 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, i used my gps |
| 16:45 |
jojoa1997_ |
what that show |
| 16:45 |
VanessaE |
you trying to guide him exactly to the micron? :-) |
| 16:45 |
Jordach |
why yes. |
| 16:45 |
TheZenKitteh |
jordach have a cup of tea or some other beverage of your enjoyment and just have a sit and think about the good things in life. thing you want to accomplish and those you love and those who love you and just relax a bit while doing such. usually helps me |
| 16:45 |
Jordach |
^ life coach <sarcasm> |
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* NekoGloop |
puts a kitten on Jordach's head |
| 16:46 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 16:46 |
jojoa1997_ |
Jordach go read a book |
| 16:46 |
NekoGloop |
Problems == solved |
| 16:46 |
TheZenKitteh |
I actually did try to kill myself about 19 years ago |
| 16:46 |
jojoa1997_ |
why |
| 16:46 |
Calinou |
marktraceur: reddit co-founders do NOT count! |
| 16:46 |
TheZenKitteh |
looking back glad I didn't |
| 16:46 |
TheZenKitteh |
lived so much since |
| 16:46 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 16:46 |
Jordach |
lol books |
| 16:47 |
jojoa1997 |
\o/ |
| 16:47 |
* TheZenKitteh |
steals all of NekoGloops kittens and starts gently tossing them around the channel |
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* Kacey |
gives a siberian tiger a hug |
| 16:48 |
* jojoa1997 |
goes and reads my book |
| 16:48 |
jojoa1997 |
to bad it is irc |
| 16:48 |
TheZenKitteh |
jojoa1997 title? |
| 16:48 |
Calinou |
Jordach: there is snow here, too |
| 16:48 |
Calinou |
in france... finally |
| 16:48 |
Jordach |
Calinou, no snow in 2012 |
| 16:48 |
jojoa1997 |
actuality i am reading the maze runner series |
| 16:48 |
Jordach |
:P |
| 16:49 |
jojoa1997 |
on book 4 |
| 16:49 |
VanessaE |
"The Viktor Rydberg school in Stockholm, Sweden, has announced that they have included Minecraft into the curriculum for their 13-year-old students." |
| 16:49 |
VanessaE |
nnooOOOOooooOOOoooOOOoooOOooooOO |
| 16:50 |
jojoa1997 |
send them an email to add Minetest |
| 16:50 |
jojoa1997 |
better fit modding |
| 16:50 |
TheZenKitteh |
.. the viktor rydberg school in stockholm needs its school titled replaced with something like playground |
| 16:50 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol no school in their right mind would include gaming as part of curriculum |
| 16:50 |
Jordach |
Calinou, https://twitter.com/jordansnelling/status/291155683095769088 |
| 16:50 |
TheZenKitteh |
popular or not |
| 16:51 |
Jordach |
bitches got snow. |
| 16:51 |
Kacey |
im going to put minetest into my kids cirriculum |
| 16:52 |
Kacey |
i will home-school them |
| 16:52 |
TheZenKitteh |
you call that snow? that's not snow.. this is snow http://www.ecorazzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/snow.jpg |
| 16:52 |
TheZenKitteh |
;p; |
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jojoa1997_ |
i thought i changed my nick |
| 16:52 |
TheZenKitteh |
nope you haven't severed your tail yet jojoa1997_ |
| 16:53 |
* jojoa1997_ |
chop |
| 16:53 |
jojoa1997_ |
gtg |
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NekoGloop |
s/tail/pe--nope, not going to make that. |
| 16:55 |
TheZenKitteh |
wtf.. I just woke up and that southpark butters clip of him singing the what what in the butt |
| 16:55 |
TheZenKitteh |
no sense |
| 16:56 |
Kacey |
off to school |
| 16:57 |
TheZenKitteh |
brb |
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kaeza |
hi all |
| 17:00 |
Calinou |
Jordach: only one snow day here |
| 17:00 |
Jordach |
we've had two so far |
| 17:00 |
Jordach |
(and the saying in the uk is: no one goes to norfolk; even the weather!!) |
| 17:00 |
celeron55 |
oh snow photos |
| 17:01 |
Jordach |
...and c55 has the best |
| 17:01 |
Jordach |
:P |
| 17:01 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: "we have money to spend? let's spend it!" --governments |
| 17:01 |
celeron55 |
here's one i happened to take this morning: http://ompldr.org/vaDMzcA |
| 17:01 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 17:01 |
Calinou |
celeron55 has teh best snow photos |
| 17:01 |
Jordach |
ugh, right side of the road driver |
| 17:01 |
celeron55 |
not that much snow really, but trees are nice and icey |
| 17:01 |
* Jordach |
likes the left |
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kaeza |
I neer seen snow :( |
| 17:02 |
Jordach |
awwwwww |
| 17:02 |
celeron55 |
Jordach: it's illegal to drive on the left side in finland unless the right side is crowded |
| 17:02 |
Jordach |
O.O |
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kaeza |
sucks to be of the middle southern hemisphere |
| 17:02 |
Calinou |
you take photos while driving? :P |
| 17:02 |
celeron55 |
or you're overtaking someone |
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Jordach |
your laws have the best of idea |
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Jordach |
s* |
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celeron55 |
Calinou: it looked nice enough that i did 8) |
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Calinou |
Jordach: same in france |
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VanessaE |
celeron55: the same is generally true here, if unenforced. |
| 17:03 |
Jordach |
i dont know about you: but they probably smoked weed at the time, didnt they? |
| 17:03 |
Jordach |
im in pain and in a satrical mood |
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celeron55 |
in which country does Jordach live then? |
| 17:03 |
Jordach |
UK |
| 17:03 |
Jordach |
GBR. |
| 17:03 |
Jordach |
Britain. |
| 17:03 |
Calinou |
fun fact: for some time in france (in 2012), you had to have an alcohol test, else you could be fined €35... however that law was never applied and it has been canceled :D |
| 17:03 |
Jordach |
United Kingdom. |
| 17:04 |
Jordach |
That better celeron55 |
| 17:04 |
Jordach |
?? |
| 17:04 |
Jordach |
** |
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celeron55 |
Calinou: there are many completely silly laws these days that nobody enforces 8) |
| 17:05 |
celeron55 |
EU is quite efficient at suggesting them |
| 17:05 |
Jordach |
btw Calinou, come to the UK on a certain day of the year, and on a certain hill |
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rubenwardy |
hi all |
| 17:05 |
Jordach |
the british are legally allowed to kill the french :P |
| 17:05 |
VanessaE |
hey ruben. |
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kaeza |
hey ruben |
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* Jordach |
stretches spine straight again |
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kaeza |
rubenwardy, how about adding a "wallpapers" section in your site? |
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marktraceur |
Calinou: Count as what? |
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Jordach |
VanessaE, im probably the most grumpy here, second being celeron55 himself (you know, when he was lazy to merge things) |
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VanessaE |
haha |
| 17:15 |
Jordach |
also, gimp needs to stop their motherfucking tomfoolerly bullshit with the export menu, jeez |
| 17:15 |
VanessaE |
agreed. |
| 17:15 |
* Jordach |
probably ranks up the same grump level as RMS |
| 17:15 |
marktraceur |
Jordach: The man gets grumpy, it's true |
| 17:15 |
Jordach |
yes, same for linus |
| 17:15 |
Jordach |
"nVidia: fuck you." |
| 17:16 |
marktraceur |
Jordach: Yeah, but mostly for objective, really good reasons |
| 17:16 |
Jordach |
and mine is too! the end users have needs too! |
| 17:17 |
marktraceur |
Jordach: UX is definitely not a science :) |
| 17:17 |
marktraceur |
(I don't know what you're talking about exactly) |
| 17:17 |
Jordach |
yes Mr. GTK |
| 17:17 |
Calinou |
marktraceur: AMD driver: try for the performance, stay for the bugs |
| 17:17 |
Calinou |
:3 |
| 17:17 |
Jordach |
we get it. |
| 17:17 |
Calinou |
come* |
| 17:17 |
Jordach |
Calinou, Intel brofist. |
| 17:17 |
Calinou |
intel + nvidia brofist* |
| 17:17 |
Jordach |
:P |
| 17:17 |
Calinou |
intel's IGPs are slow 8) |
| 17:17 |
Jordach |
yup |
| 17:18 |
rubenwardy |
updated: forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=63590 |
| 17:18 |
Calinou |
fun fact: AMD fired 15% of their employees again in late 2012 |
| 17:18 |
Jordach |
(although 40fps in minecraft aint bad for a 2004 mainframe access pc |
| 17:18 |
Jordach |
) |
| 17:18 |
* Jordach |
is going to end up with a empty wallet |
| 17:19 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: Count as what? |
| 17:19 |
celeron55 |
rubenwardy: you should note this: < erlehmann> do the t-shirts contain attribution and share-alike licensing hints? |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
marktraceur: people suiciding |
| 17:19 |
* Calinou |
is one of the 3 people who know about some reddit co-founder's death |
| 17:19 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: Explain? |
| 17:19 |
Jordach |
Calinou, make that 80 |
| 17:19 |
Jordach |
#minetest heard |
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Jordach |
woah woah woah |
| 17:20 |
Calinou |
celeron55: non-commercial clause for tshirts and mugs: don't wear a tshirt while working for money, don't use a mug to put coins inside |
| 17:20 |
Calinou |
:D |
| 17:20 |
* Jordach |
notices my mese pick texture on the shirt |
| 17:20 |
Jordach |
woop! |
| 17:20 |
celeron55 |
rubenwardy: which is, the things should probably contain something like this, as small as possible in some corner: http://i.creativecommons.org/l/by-sa/3.0/88x31.png |
| 17:21 |
Obiewan1111 |
Anyone that has a copy of Minetoon. Can you upload it to a different website upload thing? Because I can't access mediafire on my computer. http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=402 |
| 17:21 |
celeron55 |
i wonder where the most compact logos like that are |
| 17:21 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: Are you getting my messages? |
| 17:21 |
celeron55 |
ah, here: http://creativecommons.org/about/downloads (the by-sa one) |
| 17:22 |
Calinou |
marktraceur: yes, but why would I explain that? |
| 17:22 |
celeron55 |
(all graphics in minetest upstream are either cc by-sa or wtfpl) |
| 17:22 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: Because I don't understand why you would say it |
| 17:22 |
Calinou |
because you were saying "don't joke about suicide" |
| 17:22 |
Calinou |
and didn't that reddit co-founder suicide? |
| 17:23 |
celeron55 |
rubenwardy: actually, probably best to put the "cc", "by" and "sa" black-and-white round icons |
| 17:23 |
Obiewan1111 |
Cough* Anyone that has a copy of Minetoon. Can you upload it to a different website upload thing? Because I can't access mediafire on my computer. http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=402 |
| 17:23 |
Obiewan1111 |
Please. I want to test out the tp. |
| 17:23 |
rubenwardy |
button or logo? |
| 17:23 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: That's true, Aaron Swartz, who helped found Reddit, recently committed suicide. |
| 17:23 |
rubenwardy |
icons |
| 17:23 |
Jordach |
Obiewan1111, five secs |
| 17:23 |
celeron55 |
rubenwardy: "Icons" |
| 17:23 |
Obiewan1111 |
Thanks. :D |
| 17:23 |
Calinou |
Obiewan1111: I don't have, sorry |
| 17:24 |
rubenwardy |
you mean in the corner of the shirt/product? |
| 17:24 |
celeron55 |
rubenwardy: it's your choice, really; but they should be there somewhere to be found unless you get specific permission |
| 17:24 |
Calinou |
heh, I can jut download the pack *_* |
| 17:25 |
celeron55 |
rubenwardy: for graphics i have done, i don't really care; but i suppose erlehmann wants those for the logo |
| 17:25 |
Jordach |
Obiewan1111, http://ompldr.org/vaDM0Nw/MineToon%200.4.zip |
| 17:25 |
celeron55 |
and eg. the mese pick is by-sa too and not by me |
| 17:25 |
Jordach |
celeron55, be fair, i just recoloured it |
| 17:25 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: I'm still not sure I understand why you said "Reddit co-founders don't count" |
| 17:25 |
Obiewan1111 |
Thanks Jordach. :D |
| 17:25 |
Obiewan1111 |
Anyway, I gotta go. |
| 17:26 |
TheZenKitteh |
back |
| 17:26 |
Calinou |
wb |
| 17:27 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, dont make me spend monies |
| 17:27 |
TheZenKitteh |
ty Calinou |
| 17:27 |
* Calinou |
breaks Jordach's motherboard with two fingers since it's a gigabyte one |
| 17:27 |
celeron55 |
rubenwardy: i'm pretty sure most will give you permission to use without CC icons if you ask though 8) |
| 17:27 |
rubenwardy |
ok |
| 17:27 |
* Jordach |
slaps Calinou with a aimbot on xonotic |
| 17:27 |
Jordach |
bitch. please. |
| 17:27 |
rubenwardy |
so, who did the Dungeon master texture? |
| 17:27 |
celeron55 |
but strictly speaking it's not legal if you don't ask |
| 17:27 |
Jordach |
;D |
| 17:28 |
celeron55 |
it's mine |
| 17:28 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, the logo should have been at the bottom of the mu |
| 17:28 |
Jordach |
mug |
| 17:28 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: I'm still not sure I understand why you said "Reddit co-founders don't count" |
| 17:28 |
TheZenKitteh |
Calinou: your claim of being one of a few knowing is false apparently.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz#Death |
| 17:28 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 17:29 |
Calinou |
http://ompldr.org/vaDM0Nw/MineToon%200.4.zip < pass the link to obiewan when he is here |
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Jordach |
if (dead_guy != founder_of_reddit); std::cout << "A co-founder does not count."; |
| 17:29 |
Jordach |
better? |
| 17:29 |
marktraceur |
Not really, no |
| 17:29 |
Jordach |
Calinou, obie already done that |
| 17:29 |
Jordach |
-+ |
| 17:29 |
Jordach |
<Obiewan1111> Thanks Jordach. :D |
| 17:30 |
Calinou |
marktraceur: nevermind it. :P |
| 17:30 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: I would be remiss if I didn't leave you with a small lesson |
| 17:30 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: People in the news have friends and family too |
| 17:30 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: I know Aaron's brother |
| 17:30 |
Jordach |
oh ffs, its snowing again |
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Traxie21 |
Hello |
| 17:31 |
rubenwardy |
Money made so far: $0.00 |
| 17:33 |
rubenwardy |
lucky you, Jordach. It hardy ever snows in Cornwall |
| 17:36 |
Traxie21 |
It just snowed here in texas, a whopping 2/3rds an INCH! |
| 17:37 |
TheZenKitteh |
it snowed in texas? |
| 17:37 |
TheZenKitteh |
I know a few people in texas.. wonder if it snowed there |
| 17:37 |
TheZenKitteh |
where I live it "should" snow but rarely does |
| 17:38 |
TheZenKitteh |
maybe one good snow every 3-6 years |
| 17:40 |
marktraceur |
rubenwardy: Can you make a different shirt design? I don't think the coffee thing is as good as it was on a mug |
| 17:41 |
rubenwardy |
yeah, give me a 600x600 or bigger image (1024x1024 preferably |
| 17:42 |
marktraceur |
Oh, you want me to make it. |
| 17:42 |
* marktraceur |
will do that....later |
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marktraceur |
rubenwardy: I have a vision of a minetest screenshot, of an untouched world with many different nodes, and the text "unlimited possibilities" or so |
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marktraceur |
rubenwardy: I can do it in ~3 hours or so |
| 17:47 |
rubenwardy |
ok :D |
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Jordach |
woop, nesmines 30% complete |
| 18:31 |
rubenwardy |
what is it called when you base a class in c++ on another class? |
| 18:31 |
rubenwardy |
inheritance? |
| 18:33 |
Jordach |
probably. |
| 18:34 |
aldobr |
yes |
| 18:34 |
aldobr |
inheritance |
| 18:37 |
PilzAdam |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B, Ctrl + F, "inheritance" |
| 18:38 |
marktraceur |
And while you're there, maybe edit the article! :) |
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Jordach |
marktraceur, :P |
| 18:38 |
rubenwardy |
brb |
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Oblivion1500 |
hello |
| 18:43 |
mauvebic |
howdy |
| 18:43 |
babyface1031 |
hi |
| 18:43 |
Oblivion1500 |
how is every body? |
| 18:44 |
mauvebic |
i was kidnapped, drugged and left for dead in mexico, and you? |
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mauvebic |
:p |
| 18:45 |
PilzAdam |
I kidnapped and drugged someone and left him for dead in mexico.... |
| 18:45 |
* PilzAdam |
runs |
| 18:45 |
mauvebic |
hey jordach that code you pastebinned me didn't seem to work (re waterworld) |
| 18:45 |
Jordach |
that should of |
| 18:45 |
mauvebic |
lol |
| 18:46 |
mauvebic |
was i supposed to put it in mapgen.lua or its own mod? |
| 18:46 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, that worked in 0.4 dev around jan 2011 |
| 18:46 |
babyface1031 |
i am good Oblivion1500 |
| 18:46 |
babyface1031 |
how are you |
| 18:46 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, its own mod |
| 18:46 |
Jordach |
(like atlantis) |
| 18:46 |
Jordach |
(that works) |
| 18:46 |
mauvebic |
so me sticking in it mapgen is prolly what caused the uber-lag and nothing to load :S |
| 18:46 |
Jordach |
yep |
| 18:46 |
Oblivion1500 |
lol mauvebic, babyface1031: thats good, im doing well. |
| 18:47 |
babyface1031 |
can anyone help me find the craft guide mod on the forums? |
| 18:47 |
mauvebic |
i think its in unified inventory? |
| 18:47 |
mauvebic |
or supermega inventory, i forget which |
| 18:47 |
Jordach |
http://mods.minetest.ru |
| 18:48 |
Jordach |
http://mods.minetest.ru/craft_guide/ |
| 18:48 |
Jordach |
babyface1031, ^^ |
| 18:48 |
babyface1031 |
ty Jordach |
| 18:49 |
* Jordach |
is busy with some texturing |
| 18:49 |
mauvebic |
speaking of textures: rubenwardy, for your food mood, i added mangos and uhm |
| 18:49 |
mauvebic |
bananas |
| 18:50 |
TheZenKitteh |
"This is unofficial mirror of minetest forum's "Mod Releases" section." ? there's a lot of mods missing lol |
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mauvebic |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2334 |
| 18:51 |
mauvebic |
^ craft guide |
| 18:51 |
marktraceur |
Oooh |
| 18:51 |
rubenwardy |
back# |
| 18:52 |
mauvebic |
bananas + wheat = banana bread? as for mangos... dunno lol |
| 18:52 |
rubenwardy |
banana + chocolate + cook = banana split |
| 18:53 |
mauvebic |
you'd need iced cream tho |
| 18:53 |
mauvebic |
does food mod have dairy? |
| 18:53 |
mauvebic |
jordach this is what i get: http://www.zimg.eu/i/3444445799 |
| 18:54 |
Jordach |
mobf has cows |
| 18:54 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, ewhm |
| 18:54 |
Jordach |
ehm |
| 18:54 |
rubenwardy |
yes |
| 18:54 |
Jordach |
that should work |
| 18:54 |
Jordach |
in essense |
| 18:54 |
rubenwardy |
milk, cheese, butter |
| 18:54 |
mauvebic |
FPS is at 45, but hte map aint loadin', and takes forever to shut down :S |
| 18:55 |
mauvebic |
i hope mapgen v7 will make this sortof thing much easier lol |
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mauvebic |
this generated: http://www.zimg.eu/i/3876187544 lol |
| 19:00 |
mauvebic |
can i write an abm that operates on air? where y < 100...replace w/ water |
| 19:00 |
VanessaE |
you'd be insane to do so :-) |
| 19:01 |
VanessaE |
it'd be worse than triggering against stone :-) |
| 19:01 |
mauvebic |
when you eliminate all the sane options |
| 19:01 |
mauvebic |
lol |
| 19:01 |
mauvebic |
minetest.register_on_generated <--- laggy as hell |
| 19:02 |
Jordach |
hehehe |
| 19:03 |
mauvebic |
okay so jordach your code works, its the _generated that doesn't seem to wanna work |
| 19:03 |
Jordach |
lol |
| 19:03 |
Jordach |
huh |
| 19:03 |
Jordach |
using that it was possible to create a flatlands |
| 19:04 |
sapier1 |
I don't recomend abms on air I've used them for a while ruining performance completely |
| 19:04 |
* Jordach |
derps |
| 19:04 |
Jordach |
sapier1, then what you suggest? |
| 19:05 |
mauvebic |
ok so if i wanted the water level to be say, y= 200 |
| 19:05 |
sapier1 |
if you need to do something on a regular basis within air you're better of using "spawn eggs" which are generated on mapgen |
| 19:05 |
mauvebic |
simplest route? |
| 19:05 |
sapier1 |
ok different usecase |
| 19:05 |
sapier1 |
I'd recomend on mapgen for this usecase too |
| 19:06 |
mauvebic |
omg its finally loading |
| 19:06 |
mauvebic |
ive had two coffees since i began lol |
| 19:06 |
sapier1 |
just replace any air node with water ... will be quite slow but work |
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| 19:07 |
mauvebic |
how far along is the new mapgen? im almost tempted to write a few patches (would be faster) |
| 19:07 |
sapier1 |
don't think it'll be faster if you use it that way |
| 19:08 |
Jordach |
hey Gambit |
| 19:08 |
mauvebic |
well if trees are faster in CPP, i bet waterworld would be too |
| 19:09 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, how about custom flatland maps |
| 19:09 |
Jordach |
(or even events to generate?) |
| 19:09 |
mauvebic |
you mean pilzadam's flatlands? |
| 19:09 |
Jordach |
mhm |
| 19:09 |
mauvebic |
yeah i suppose if i change dirt for water source that could work |
| 19:09 |
sapier1 |
waterworld would simply require do increase water level .. I guess this might be a minor change in current mapgen too |
| 19:10 |
mauvebic |
take all the mapgen options and stick em in a mapgen.conf ;-) |
| 19:10 |
mauvebic |
otherwise whats the point of having "games" if all the worlds look the same :p |
| 19:11 |
sapier1 |
hmm there's a settings page in main window ... i assume that's correct place for options like that |
| 19:11 |
mauvebic |
well minetest.conf is more for the server/client |
| 19:11 |
sapier1 |
no not settings ... "configure" button for worlds |
| 19:12 |
mauvebic |
ideally map settings should go in world.mt so you can different worlds running the same modpack/game folder |
| 19:14 |
mauvebic |
this much loaded and then it stopped generating lol: http://www.zimg.eu/i/948991297 |
| 19:15 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: emergethread probably hung up. |
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| 19:16 |
mauvebic |
even on 0.4.4 stable? damn |
| 19:16 |
VanessaE |
it seems like the more map *content* that has to be loaded, the easier it is to hang the the emergethread code, even if you're not doing register_ongenerated() |
| 19:17 |
mauvebic |
pretty soon i think we'll need a bug-sprint to go w/ the doc sprint lol |
| 19:17 |
sapier1 |
is there anything to trigger this bug? probably like the mod I created to catch the collision check bug? |
| 19:17 |
babyface1031 |
does the technic chainsaw work on conifer trees |
| 19:18 |
mauvebic |
trigger it with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1517718/ |
| 19:18 |
VanessaE |
so e.g. a bare untouched map will load fast and be less likely to hang than, say, a map loaded with huge conifers and jungle trees -- even if all you have are node defs to accommodate those trees, and NO abms, ongenerated, on_step, etc. code. |
| 19:18 |
VanessaE |
babyface1031: never tried it, but I don't see why not |
| 19:19 |
babyface1031 |
ok it might be my chainsaw let me try uncharging and recharging it |
| 19:19 |
VanessaE |
at least, this is what it looks like to me. Even if I'm dead wrong about the cause, I am spot on regarding the symptoms. |
| 19:19 |
mauvebic |
omg the mapgen is trying to put caves in the water lol |
| 19:19 |
VanessaE |
sapier1: download my server map file from http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/My_World_server.tar.bz2 and give it a whirl. |
| 19:20 |
Jordach |
welcome to NESMines: <mauvebic> omg the mapgen is trying to put caves in the water lol |
| 19:20 |
Jordach |
oops. |
| 19:20 |
Jordach |
http://imgur.com/a/TMPFX |
| 19:20 |
VanessaE |
and grab the game file from here: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/vanessa_game.tar.bz2 |
| 19:20 |
mauvebic |
i think it would be less of a mess if i started with a void map and did it myself lol |
| 19:21 |
sapier1 |
I'll have try at mauvebics code first vanessa seems to be a really bad thing he's doing :) |
| 19:21 |
VanessaE |
sapier1, mauvebic: this is a known bug, RealBadAngel went round and round with celeron55 over this. |
| 19:21 |
VanessaE |
the cave generator operates even on air above ground. |
| 19:22 |
mauvebic |
round as in... trying to fix it or prove it's existence? |
| 19:22 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: trying to prove/disprove *why* it needs fixed actually. |
| 19:22 |
sapier1 |
I wasn't talking about caves but emerge thread :-) |
| 19:22 |
mauvebic |
i know RBA's solution was to comment out 4/5's of the mapgen lol |
| 19:22 |
VanessaE |
sapier1: ah right. |
| 19:22 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: no. |
| 19:22 |
VanessaE |
I've seen the results of RBA's mapgen fixes. |
| 19:23 |
mauvebic |
well i can testify that emergethread sucks lol |
| 19:23 |
VanessaE |
they look like normal ordinary maps, but without caves destroying above-ground objects |
| 19:23 |
mauvebic |
it got even worse in 0.4.4-d1 |
| 19:23 |
mauvebic |
oh thank god |
| 19:23 |
mauvebic |
i hate the cave code |
| 19:23 |
marktraceur |
celeron55: Hey, thanks for the shout-out on the blog, hopefully it helps out |
| 19:23 |
mauvebic |
it fucked up so many of my shapes |
| 19:23 |
VanessaE |
it's been getting progressively worse for the past few versions, it seems like. |
| 19:24 |
mauvebic |
when's RBA's patch to the mapgen getting pulled? |
| 19:24 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: the blog that seems to be down you mean? :-) |
| 19:24 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: Juvember 42nd. |
| 19:25 |
mauvebic |
vanessae as in celeron wont pull it until he's convinced its a problem? |
| 19:25 |
sapier1 |
I've got another questen atm changesets seem to be queueing really fast ... or am I wrong? |
| 19:25 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: I can't speak from him, but if the conversations in -dev are anything to go by, probably not anytime soon. |
| 19:25 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: It was up enough for me to get an RSS update with a nice post :) |
| 19:25 |
sapier1 |
I don't quite remember how fast/slow changesets have been merged/disposed in past. |
| 19:25 |
VanessaE |
"Juvember 41st" is something my mom used to say in place of "not any time soon" whenever she wanted to be cute |
| 19:26 |
VanessaE |
(I changed it to 42nd, to imply an even larger delay ;-) ) |
| 19:26 |
mauvebic |
well if RBA can acknowledge and fix the problems, why doesn't he fork? lol |
| 19:26 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: he did. |
| 19:26 |
mauvebic |
nice |
| 19:26 |
mauvebic |
whats the git? |
| 19:26 |
mauvebic |
same name i imagine |
| 19:27 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: he doesn't appear to have a current online repo. |
| 19:27 |
VanessaE |
wait, here it is |
| 19:27 |
mauvebic |
https://github.com/RealBadAngel ? |
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| 19:27 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest |
| 19:27 |
VanessaE |
one of those branches probably has his mapgen fixes, assuming be pushed them already |
| 19:27 |
* VanessaE |
pokes at RealBadAngel for signs of life |
| 19:28 |
VanessaE |
(right about now he should be getting off work) |
| 19:28 |
VanessaE |
(I think) |
| 19:28 |
mauvebic |
you know half my mods are stalled in dev because of bugs lol |
| 19:28 |
NakedFury |
means you are pushing the engine and finding bugs in the process |
| 19:28 |
babyface1031 |
:( i tryed it dont work and you cant get the conifer tree fully cut down with out flying |
| 19:29 |
mauvebic |
no cars or elevators until attach bug goes away |
| 19:29 |
mauvebic |
no work on terrain guns for the same reason |
| 19:29 |
klunk |
you are messing chainsow and timber mod ? |
| 19:29 |
klunk |
babyface1031: ^ |
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| 19:30 |
VanessaE |
babyface1031: I know, they're supposed to be huge. Build a scaffold around it and then cut it down :-) |
| 19:30 |
mauvebic |
i had to implement a cheap hack to make bullets auto-destruct after two seconds so they dont attach to new players lol |
| 19:30 |
babyface1031 |
i have the technic chainsaw and i think it is the timber mod i am on oldcoders server |
| 19:30 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: that bug has since been fixed. |
| 19:30 |
VanessaE |
(but entities jitter and jump and otherwise fail to move smoothly around the map still) |
| 19:30 |
babyface1031 |
hi Octupus |
| 19:30 |
mauvebic |
is the current git still -d1 or the emergethread/map not loading still a problem? |
| 19:31 |
Octupus |
Hi babyface1031 |
| 19:31 |
OldCoder |
Hello |
| 19:31 |
VanessaE |
emergethread is still a problem in git HEAD. |
| 19:31 |
babyface1031 |
hi OldCoder |
| 19:31 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, Your 3D avatar is installed |
| 19:31 |
Octupus |
Hi OldCoder |
| 19:31 |
mauvebic |
so its fixed but i cant upgrade lol |
| 19:31 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, Hi |
| 19:31 |
VanessaE |
why can't you upgrade? |
| 19:31 |
Octupus |
any1 missed me xD |
| 19:31 |
babyface1031 |
thank you OldCoder |
| 19:31 |
mauvebic |
cuz last time my maps wouldn't load at all |
| 19:31 |
babyface1031 |
i did Octupus |
| 19:31 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, Yes |
| 19:31 |
mauvebic |
on -d1 |
| 19:32 |
VanessaE |
there isn't any new breakage since 0.4.4-d1, just some things that aren't any better. |
| 19:32 |
Octupus |
:) |
| 19:32 |
mauvebic |
perhaps we could do like linux and institute a feature-freeze and bugfixing period |
| 19:32 |
Octupus |
so lets see where i start off :P |
| 19:32 |
Octupus |
time to build some houses again :D |
| 19:32 |
mauvebic |
thats usually the steps between stable versions |
| 19:33 |
klunk |
hello OldCoder, could you grant me some worldedit privilege on Zegaton ? |
| 19:33 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: such was planned for 0.4.4 I think, but I guess it wasn't too productive. |
| 19:33 |
VanessaE |
I'm sure emergethread and other bugs will be fixed, but when? dunno. |
| 19:33 |
mauvebic |
though i thought zeg submitted a patch for the camera jumping? |
| 19:34 |
OldCoder |
klunk, Yes certainly. Remind me in 15 minutes if it is not done. Is klunk your nick there? |
| 19:34 |
VanessaE |
he may have, I don't know. |
| 19:34 |
klunk |
OldCoder: I'm gonna learn far away civilisation, don't worry |
| 19:34 |
Octupus |
i cant believe how long i havent played mt but still remember my password xD |
| 19:34 |
sapier1 |
I know implementing new features is always more fun then bugfixing existing ones but if noone starts bugfixing soon minetest will get in trouble |
| 19:34 |
klunk |
OldCoder |
| 19:34 |
klunk |
yes |
| 19:34 |
mauvebic |
sapier1 +1000 |
| 19:34 |
VanessaE |
sapier1: agreed |
| 19:34 |
VanessaE |
and I don't want to see this game fail. |
| 19:35 |
VanessaE |
it's got too much potential. |
| 19:35 |
mauvebic |
well like most OSS project you have to first start by proving the existence of a bug a dozen different ways lol |
| 19:35 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: hmmmm proved it by signing onto my machine via SSH and watching a debug build running inside gdb with my map and my usual mods, players, etc. |
| 19:36 |
klunk |
OldCoder: don't worry, I will probably use it tomorrow, and thanks ! |
| 19:36 |
mauvebic |
when someone starts merchandising to put the money towards cpp devs to fix this stuff, ill buy |
| 19:36 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: someone is. |
| 19:36 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy has that swag he's selling now. |
| 19:36 |
mauvebic |
yeah but the money isn't going towards new features, its paying for whats already there |
| 19:36 |
OldCoder |
klunk, I will proceed now |
| 19:37 |
OldCoder |
klunk, is your nick there klunk? |
| 19:37 |
mauvebic |
i do believe in charity but i have friends and family who need it too... so if im to pay for a game, ill pay for progress |
| 19:37 |
klunk |
OldCoder: yes it is |
| 19:37 |
sapier1 |
there are 150 open issues for minetest 100 not even categorized ... |
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| 19:37 |
sapier1 |
count 50% valid still there are at least 50 real blockers |
| 19:38 |
mauvebic |
rba and oldcoder and i have discussed several different methods of raising cash for specific goals |
| 19:38 |
rubenwardy |
all of the money I get is going to Celeron55 |
| 19:38 |
mauvebic |
most importantly would be to pay someone to bugfix |
| 19:38 |
rubenwardy |
if you have any better ideas, ask c55 |
| 19:38 |
OldCoder |
klunk, done |
| 19:39 |
sapier1 |
you don't need cash for a project like this but interest ... it's to expensive to pay for it |
| 19:39 |
OldCoder |
sapier1, next week I'd be interested in upgrading animals |
| 19:39 |
NakedFury |
we also need to come up with Minetest specific images for the merchandise |
| 19:39 |
mauvebic |
well by his own admission he's pretty busy and can't garantee the money will be spent on minetest so..;. |
| 19:39 |
klunk |
OldCoder: thanks !! |
| 19:40 |
OldCoder |
yw |
| 19:40 |
mauvebic |
do you think a kickstarter could raise enough funds to pay a cpp dev to bugfix? |
| 19:41 |
VanessaE |
possibly |
| 19:41 |
marktraceur |
You'd have to do....a lot |
| 19:41 |
VanessaE |
as long as you don't mind dealing with the "what is shit shit" and "I thought this was mineCRAFT" responses :) |
| 19:41 |
Jordach |
or you know actually get PilzAdam to merge fixes |
| 19:41 |
sapier1 |
oldcoder, core seems to be stable but there won't be all mobs 3d meshes next week |
| 19:41 |
mauvebic |
okay, how about raising smaller funds to pay for specific bugfixes? |
| 19:42 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: I think it's important to spread word about the project first, not to mention make it easier for the community |
| 19:42 |
OldCoder |
sapier1, Stable is all I really care about |
| 19:43 |
babyface1031 |
OldCoder: i am still getting the error with the electric furnace or should i talk to RealBadAngel about it? |
| 19:43 |
OldCoder |
sapier1, Do you have any comments on the disappearing animals issue? Said it was a known problem, right? babyface1031 did you have a question about that? |
| 19:43 |
OldCoder |
babyface1031, Yes please |
| 19:43 |
babyface1031 |
i had sheep and chicken now they are all gone and i dont see any in the wild |
| 19:44 |
mauvebic |
im not a recruiter/missionary lol |
| 19:44 |
NakedFury |
spread word about Minetest and provide a stable and feature full [ features promised on page and working 100%] game. and stop current members from bad mouthing or causing problems on other channels [irc] that could bring negativity to MineTest |
| 19:44 |
mauvebic |
you cant really stop them |
| 19:44 |
mauvebic |
all you can do is ban them here so they dont look like they belong to us |
| 19:45 |
OldCoder |
mauvebic, Or you can talk to them |
| 19:45 |
mauvebic |
someone with patience could yeah lol |
| 19:45 |
NakedFury |
by stopping them I mean not encourage, punish [bans] |
| 19:45 |
TheZenKitteh |
just to be sure.. is the name of the folder where mods go in a systemwide setup of minetest $HOME/.minetest/usermods ? |
| 19:45 |
TheZenKitteh |
or has it changed |
| 19:46 |
mauvebic |
but you know, we talk to them everyday, and the next day they pull the same shit |
| 19:46 |
mauvebic |
at what point does one get fed up? |
| 19:46 |
sapier1 |
mauvebic your code is making core run havoc addNode can't be used to update multiple nodes as it's implemented atm |
| 19:46 |
mauvebic |
isnt technically my code it's jordach's |
| 19:46 |
mauvebic |
should i be using set_node (is there a difference?) |
| 19:46 |
sapier1 |
still this can't work |
| 19:47 |
NakedFury |
TheZenKitteh: game folder>mods>minetest |
| 19:47 |
NakedFury |
those will be system wide. for specific game type mods they go: games>the game folder>mods |
| 19:47 |
sapier1 |
won't help |
| 19:48 |
mauvebic |
so i cant really use on_generated for making flooded worlds? |
| 19:48 |
sapier1 |
problem is adding nodes triggers full event handling cascade within core |
| 19:48 |
sapier1 |
as long as there ain't a way to stop core from doing this for any single node this can't work |
| 19:48 |
mauvebic |
i thought the mapgen/on_generated would provide an economical way of adding lots of nodes |
| 19:48 |
TheZenKitteh |
NakedFury: I don't mean run in place.. I mean when its compiled not to run in place |
| 19:49 |
* TheZenKitteh |
usually compiles run in place so not sure where other mod folder would be |
| 19:49 |
mauvebic |
but in essence its no faster or better than writing a mod to incrementally raise the sea level |
| 19:50 |
mauvebic |
rubenwardy the merchandise you're pushing, did you have to buy any stocks or they provide it on measure? |
| 19:50 |
PilzAdam |
gtg; bye |
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| 20:04 |
rubenwardy |
provide on measure |
| 20:04 |
mauvebic |
so i could come up with whatever designs and raise bounties for bugfixes |
| 20:05 |
TheZenKitteh |
hehe *working on something for mintest and linux users* |
| 20:05 |
mauvebic |
though someone else would have to manage the funds, im still in bankruptcy and i dont need the heat from auditors lol |
| 20:06 |
Jordach |
"still" is a different matter |
| 20:06 |
mauvebic |
9 months |
| 20:07 |
mauvebic |
twice that if its your second |
| 20:07 |
Jordach |
at least youre not freezing |
| 20:07 |
Jordach |
:P |
| 20:07 |
sapier1 |
OldCoder yes there was a bug in 1.4 when a entity was unloaded within a torch for example it was removed on_activate |
| 20:07 |
mauvebic |
no i found a rent where electricity was included lol |
| 20:08 |
sapier1 |
still that may not be only bug in this are, I've got an idea how to avoid loss of playerspawned mobs but I didn't have time to implement it |
| 20:09 |
mauvebic |
though its pretty funny - the other guy spent a fortune taking me to court to get his settlement, |
| 20:09 |
mauvebic |
declare bankru |
| 20:09 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, lol |
| 20:09 |
mauvebic |
*declare bankruptcy, he gets nothing but nice legal bills lol |
| 20:09 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, you should head into #minetest-mods |
| 20:09 |
Jordach |
thats where the modders are! |
| 20:09 |
Jordach |
(also: it does not spam up this channel :P ) |
| 20:10 |
mauvebic |
we also sent a couple of heavies to deal w/ em lol |
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mauvebic |
cuz eventhough he won, his property really was a deathtrap |
| 20:10 |
NakedFury |
a house you rented? |
| 20:11 |
mauvebic |
yep |
| 20:11 |
mauvebic |
so after losing the court case and screwing them with bankruptcy, |
| 20:11 |
mauvebic |
we sent over firemen who condemned the whole building lol |
| 20:11 |
Jordach |
haha! |
| 20:12 |
Jordach |
trolololololol. |
| 20:12 |
mauvebic |
no settlement |
| 20:12 |
NakedFury |
a bad owner and really bad building? |
| 20:12 |
mauvebic |
and - 6 rents lol |
| 20:12 |
mauvebic |
bad owner? the guy plasters over mould and other shit the time it takes to rent out the unit |
| 20:12 |
mauvebic |
then we found wires criss-crossing the ceilings of closets |
| 20:13 |
mauvebic |
which explained our astronomical power bills |
| 20:13 |
NakedFury |
wow then a real death trap |
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mauvebic |
last time i saw the concierge he had a limp and a black eye lol |
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NakedFury |
my sister is trying to buy her own place because she is paying $650 [or something close] with water included for a small apartment. Power bills she has to pay. Her new place will be same monthly but its BIGGER and hers. |
| 20:14 |
mauvebic |
im gunning for a smaller place lol |
| 20:14 |
mauvebic |
my wife accumulates shit until there's no more room |
| 20:15 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, as long as it fits your space maps then were fine |
| 20:15 |
NakedFury |
hoarder? |
| 20:15 |
mauvebic |
yep lol |
| 20:16 |
mauvebic |
besides its easier to heat a studio apt. then 4 rooms |
| 20:16 |
mauvebic |
its always too hot or too cold depending which room youre in lol |
| 20:16 |
NakedFury |
my mother and sister are Buyers. they keep buying stuff to decorate when we dont have room. My sister in particular is a shoe buyer. and almost always in pairs |
| 20:17 |
mauvebic |
when my wife goes shopping i tell her to withdraw a certain amount and leave the wallet at home lol |
| 20:17 |
NakedFury |
too much stuff in the house |
| 20:17 |
NakedFury |
nice |
| 20:17 |
mauvebic |
well its either that or put up with the excuses "it was on sale!" |
| 20:17 |
NakedFury |
I should try that even if they tell me go to hell |
| 20:17 |
mauvebic |
you dont save money by buying shit on sale |
| 20:17 |
NakedFury |
not to stereotype but for women its always on sale |
| 20:17 |
mauvebic |
you save money by asking if you really need it lol |
| 20:18 |
* VanessaE |
grumbles... |
| 20:18 |
NakedFury |
ohh that shirt looks nice let me check its on sale! bought |
| 20:18 |
VanessaE |
you save money by choosing the on-sale item over the not-on-sale one you would have otherwise bough. |
| 20:18 |
VanessaE |
bought* |
| 20:18 |
mauvebic |
and women never check under the sale label to find out its the same price as last week lol |
| 20:18 |
VanessaE |
(assuming they are equivalent) |
| 20:19 |
LAD |
ahh |
| 20:19 |
* LAD |
takes a nice swig of water hafter some hardcore basketball |
| 20:19 |
mauvebic |
and sometimes you check under the label, and it was actually cheaper than the sale price lol |
| 20:19 |
LAD |
oh lol sales they bring back so many memorys when i here or see the word SALE |
| 20:19 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: never seen that happen here in the states, at least not on as short a time scale as you are saying. |
| 20:20 |
mauvebic |
http://www.failqc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/maxi.jpg |
| 20:20 |
mauvebic |
"was 2.79. now 3.88" and unbeatable prices in bold lol |
| 20:20 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 20:20 |
NakedFury |
never had that happen to us |
| 20:20 |
NakedFury |
thankfuly |
| 20:21 |
mauvebic |
not to mention those "up to x% or more off" which means nothing |
| 20:21 |
mauvebic |
which translates to rebate <=> x% |
| 20:22 |
mauvebic |
and i especially dont let my wife buy tech, otherwise shed get all those useless extended warranties lol |
| 20:22 |
mauvebic |
that cost more than the product sometimes lol |
| 20:23 |
mauvebic |
one time i bought a computer that came with norton, and the salesman tried to sell me the same antivirus for an extra 40$ lol |
| 20:24 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, the best place for buying or upgrading, use ebuyer |
| 20:24 |
Jordach |
(dont know if its US/CAN) |
| 20:24 |
mauvebic |
i dont buy anything online, i used to work for UPS lol |
| 20:25 |
mauvebic |
non-fragile = basketball, fragile = soccer |
| 20:26 |
rubenwardy |
bye all |
| 20:26 |
mauvebic |
night |
| 20:27 |
NakedFury |
I buy from newegg or tigerdirect. have had good luck with the local ups guys and the packages include like 5 extra lbs of that protective popcorn stuff |
| 20:27 |
NakedFury |
or best buy or comp usa if they have it cheaper |
| 20:27 |
NakedFury |
those last 2 I have stores near me |
| 20:28 |
mauvebic |
hell if the floor display model isn't scratched up you can usually get that for a decent rebate |
| 20:29 |
mauvebic |
my biggest problem these days tho is getting a proper english keyboard |
| 20:30 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, then buy from ebay or amazon |
| 20:30 |
NakedFury |
english - UK ? |
| 20:30 |
Jordach |
or english - US |
| 20:30 |
mauvebic |
english US |
| 20:30 |
mauvebic |
QWERTY style |
| 20:30 |
Jordach |
oppa QWERTY style |
| 20:30 |
mauvebic |
because of the stupid language laws here, all tech has to be "quebecois" |
| 20:30 |
marktraceur |
Woo dvorak. |
| 20:31 |
mauvebic |
which insures our programmers will never be as good as the rest of the world |
| 20:31 |
NakedFury |
go to amazon then |
| 20:31 |
NakedFury |
if you cant find one risk online retail |
| 20:31 |
Jordach |
D: |
| 20:31 |
mauvebic |
ideally we should have the right to buy whatever the fuck we want in stores without goin online |
| 20:31 |
Jordach |
if in doubt: go find a PS/2 QWERTY, they are fucking cheap |
| 20:31 |
Jordach |
less than a $ |
| 20:32 |
sapier1 |
mauvebic I've just debugged this 3d code any node modified will cause minetest to touch more than 6 other blocks additionally to those blocks you touch ... this can't ever work ... changing a node is a heavy weight operation in minetest you should avoid it ;-) |
| 20:32 |
mauvebic |
yeah but the minute i change my P4's motherboard ill have nothing left to plug it in |
| 20:32 |
Jordach |
(even over here they are less than a £) |
| 20:32 |
Jordach |
mauvebic, PS/2 to USB converters exist |
| 20:32 |
marktraceur |
mauvebic: Canada has given the U.S. so much in terms of cheap prescription drugs....the least we can do is offer you cheap QWERTY keyboards. |
| 20:32 |
Jordach |
to type the tiny little label letters |
| 20:33 |
Jordach |
** |
| 20:33 |
mauvebic |
until the US companies realized they were getting screwed with online cdn pharmacies and made it illegal lol |
| 20:33 |
TheZenKitteh |
its ALIVE |
| 20:34 |
mauvebic |
though pharmaceutical companies aren't interested in curing anyone, they want you to take a steady stream of meds for the rest of your life lol |
| 20:35 |
OldCoder |
sapier1, So updated animals may be less prone to vanish? |
| 20:35 |
sapier1 |
yes |
| 20:36 |
mauvebic |
ex: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibogaine |
| 20:36 |
sapier1 |
still this only is true for complete vanish, that temporary glitch is still there |
| 20:37 |
OldCoder |
sapier1, sorry if I don't follow yet... is temporary glitch a known problem in general with the engine? |
| 20:38 |
sapier1 |
yes it's the bug sometimes you can't see entities until you log out and in again because server and client are out of sync |
| 20:39 |
mauvebic |
i have this bug with ufos |
| 20:39 |
mauvebic |
where i take one for a flight, land somewhere, and the place i started from has another copy of the entitity |
| 20:41 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
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| 20:47 |
jojoa1997 |
Why was corner note banned? |
| 20:47 |
mauvebic |
for posting obscene photos |
| 20:48 |
jojoa1997 |
oh |
| 20:48 |
mauvebic |
and for religious zealotry lol |
| 20:48 |
jojoa1997 |
wow too bad he was a good coder |
| 20:48 |
jojoa1997 |
or was he |
| 20:49 |
mauvebic |
cant say i wasn't really active when he was |
| 20:49 |
mauvebic |
but people seemed to like his work yeah |
| 20:50 |
mauvebic |
until he became a born-again-vegan lol |
| 20:50 |
jojoa1997 |
Mauvbic: have you added a pull request to VanessaE's pipeworks |
| 20:50 |
Octupus |
hi jojoa1997 |
| 20:50 |
jojoa1997 |
Hi Octopus |
| 20:50 |
mauvebic |
no my version has diverged even more then the last one i sent her |
| 20:50 |
jojoa1997 |
ok |
| 20:50 |
Jordach |
mauve-pipes |
| 20:51 |
mauvebic |
at this point with me doing pipes and nore doing tubes, pipeworks should be just a modpack containing both mods |
| 20:51 |
jojoa1997 |
oh yeah i am planning on making a mod that can allow different types of players |
| 20:51 |
mauvebic |
minpipes or justpipes lol |
| 20:51 |
mauvebic |
+ my wife wants medieval type pipeworks with mills and such |
| 20:51 |
jojoa1997 |
like spies scouts and warriors |
| 20:52 |
mauvebic |
so trying to re-integrate *all* that into pipeworks with tubes built in, would be a nightmare for anyone to maintain |
| 20:52 |
NakedFury |
check Better than Wolves Minecraft mod for their Mills |
| 20:53 |
mauvebic |
i could use an animated mesh of a windmill and waterwheel |
| 20:53 |
mauvebic |
give it a rightclick formspec similiar to mixers |
| 20:53 |
mauvebic |
prolly identical formspec actually lol |
| 20:54 |
mauvebic |
a huge mesh of a mill is alot better than trying to move a bunch of nodes/nodeboxes in sync lol |
| 20:55 |
jojoa1997 |
what sets the player speed and size |
| 20:55 |
mauvebic |
you dont |
| 20:55 |
jojoa1997 |
and attack damage |
| 20:55 |
mauvebic |
you attach a playyer to an entity for vel/accel |
| 20:55 |
jojoa1997 |
you cant change the players speed and size? |
| 20:55 |
mauvebic |
size yeah |
| 20:55 |
mauvebic |
i think |
| 20:55 |
jojoa1997 |
no it is for a mod |
| 20:56 |
sapier1 |
you can't change player speed by now |
| 20:56 |
jojoa1997 |
i want to make scouts(fast), spies(small), warriors(strong) |
| 20:56 |
mauvebic |
default/player.lua::65 |
| 20:56 |
mauvebic |
for size |
| 20:56 |
pandaro |
if it was so simple I did I |
| 20:56 |
sapier1 |
you neet to change core to enable player speed changing |
| 20:57 |
jojoa1997 |
ok nvm i cant compile |
| 21:01 |
TheZenKitteh |
well I have just finished a bash based mod installer with support for repos. however I have to go run an errand and when I get back ill release it on github for testing |
| 21:01 |
TheZenKitteh |
it downloads a properly formatted packages list file, gets full mod name from it, fetches mod, backs up old mod, installs new mod |
| 21:02 |
TheZenKitteh |
also included is a packmod script to pack the mod to work with it |
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TheZenKitteh |
self contained as well and should work on any linux distro |
| 21:02 |
sapier1 |
what os? |
| 21:02 |
sapier1 |
:-/ |
| 21:02 |
TheZenKitteh |
sorry but I can't do c or ++ but can do bash |
| 21:02 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 21:02 |
TheZenKitteh |
maybe someone can do a batch script for windows to do similar |
| 21:02 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 21:03 |
TheZenKitteh |
but ill be back in about an hour or so and will release then. need to do the finishing touches, pack up some mods for testing the repo and then release the scripts |
| 21:03 |
sapier1 |
sorry but I don't think this will help ... maybe package format can be used but without support for all os minetest supports |
| 21:03 |
TheZenKitteh |
it seems there's a lot of minetest users on linux |
| 21:04 |
TheZenKitteh |
and I presume someone who knows how to do batch scripting might can do one for windows |
| 21:04 |
TheZenKitteh |
7z is cross platform |
| 21:04 |
TheZenKitteh |
however I don't know much about batch |
| 21:04 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol |
| 21:04 |
jojoa1997 |
does windows 8 support minetest |
| 21:04 |
sapier1 |
yes but at least I hesitate to create a package for a mod system not supported on any platform ... i already have to much formats to release too |
| 21:04 |
TheZenKitteh |
the format is simply a 7z archive with max compression |
| 21:05 |
TheZenKitteh |
it can be used for other repos assuming they use 7z to decompress |
| 21:05 |
sapier1 |
how do you decide version number? |
| 21:05 |
TheZenKitteh |
the moretrees mod for example compresses to just under 10KB |
| 21:06 |
TheZenKitteh |
the installer doesn't know anything. it just fetches the package list, downloads the package, backs up old mod while appending date and time to name and installs new mod |
| 21:06 |
sapier1 |
ok |
| 21:06 |
TheZenKitteh |
its used by ./mtmodinstaller modname |
| 21:06 |
TheZenKitteh |
its used by ./mtmodinstaller.sh modname * |
| 21:06 |
TheZenKitteh |
technically it could be used to upgrade a mod |
| 21:07 |
TheZenKitteh |
however it upgrades it as a complete package |
| 21:07 |
sapier1 |
ok |
| 21:07 |
TheZenKitteh |
any mods you have done to the old mod will have to be redone.. but its backed up so you can still access it |
| 21:07 |
TheZenKitteh |
anyway gtg for now. be back hopefully within an hour or so |
| 21:07 |
sapier1 |
I'll follow its development probably at some later stage I'll release for it too |
| 21:08 |
TheZenKitteh |
oh and the packmod script you use with .packmod.sh /path/to/mod/modname modname_version |
| 21:08 |
TheZenKitteh |
will result in a 7z archive of modname_version.7z |
| 21:08 |
TheZenKitteh |
its in the readme im working on |
| 21:08 |
TheZenKitteh |
anyway ttyl |
| 21:11 |
jojoa1997 |
congragulations jonni you are the 4000th member |
| 21:11 |
jojoa1997 |
Newest registered user: Jonni |
| 21:11 |
jojoa1997 |
Total number of registered users: 4,000 |
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| 21:18 |
pandaro |
jojoa:I understand creating different player is more difficult than expected |
| 21:19 |
celeron55 |
some MCServer guy sent me an e-mail asking me to code their stuff |
| 21:19 |
celeron55 |
wtf are they thinking |
| 21:19 |
pandaro |
jojoa:hai ancora intenzione di provarci? |
| 21:20 |
jojoa1997 |
pandero: yep what i was going to do was have a set of params and just change them to match each type |
| 21:20 |
jojoa1997 |
also what does this mean"jojoa:hai ancora intenzione di provarci?" |
| 21:20 |
celeron55 |
probably asking unpolitely if you know that language |
| 21:20 |
pandaro |
jojoa:sorry...translate...you still want to try? |
| 21:21 |
celeron55 |
oh 8) |
| 21:21 |
sapier1 |
:-) maybe those mc guys need help ;-) |
| 21:21 |
jojoa1997 |
yeah but i cant compile and i dont know C |
| 21:22 |
Octupus |
celeron55,mc ppl are crazy :P |
| 21:23 |
kaeza |
this guy is now officially annoying: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4455 |
| 21:23 |
sapier1 |
why not if they do pay well ? ;-) |
| 21:23 |
jojoa1997 |
kaeza +1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 |
| 21:23 |
jojoa1997 |
he just copied the code that i told him to look at in the api |
| 21:24 |
kaeza |
+1000 to InfinityProject for his response |
| 21:24 |
jojoa1997 |
and look at what he did with the register_craft |
| 21:24 |
jojoa1997 |
i mean i came here not even knowing what lua was and i did better than that |
| 21:25 |
pandaro |
jojoa: I know compile c (is easy) but program c it's another thing |
| 21:25 |
kaeza |
pandaro, if you think C is hard, try C++ 8) |
| 21:25 |
jojoa1997 |
i cant get a compiler either |
| 21:26 |
mauvebic |
asteroid 5 http://www.zimg.eu/i/294445396 |
| 21:26 |
Zetetic |
I fyou think C is hard, try Lisp |
| 21:26 |
Zetetic |
Much easier |
| 21:26 |
kaeza |
mine was sarcasm Zetetic |
| 21:26 |
kaeza |
C++ is harder than plain C |
| 21:26 |
sapier1 |
if you don't know anything about c lisp may be easier |
| 21:26 |
Zetetic |
Mine was serious and fascetious |
| 21:26 |
pandaro |
sorry all coder for my fast judgment |
| 21:27 |
jojoa1997 |
who is all coder |
| 21:27 |
sapier1 |
kaeza not quite ... at least if you do memory handling c++ is better (safer) |
| 21:27 |
kaeza |
pandaro, start with BASIC or Lua or Lisp or Python or <insert another easy languag here> |
| 21:27 |
kaeza |
+e |
| 21:28 |
pandaro |
I only know what I learned alone, not a programmer |
| 21:28 |
pandaro |
i know python |
| 21:29 |
pandaro |
and nothing else, lua ... I'm trying |
| 21:29 |
jojoa1997 |
celeron55 could you make the properties for the player customizable in 0.4.5 |
| 21:29 |
sapier1 |
python c c++ lua perl java ... quite same concept just slightly different syntax |
| 21:30 |
kaeza |
python is better to start because it enforces the good coding practice of indenting your blocks accordingly |
| 21:31 |
pandaro |
I know it's the same thing ... to talk in practice is another thing |
| 21:31 |
sapier1 |
of course ... you need to do it to get experience |
| 21:32 |
pandaro |
yes celeron!!! you can!!! |
| 21:32 |
kaeza |
pandaro, start with a simple "Hello World" program |
| 21:32 |
kaeza |
and start experimenting with things like user input and such |
| 21:33 |
pandaro |
I have these bases |
| 21:33 |
jojoa1997 |
user input as in chat commands |
| 21:33 |
sapier1 |
and buy a book about programming ;-) |
| 21:33 |
jojoa1997 |
dont have money |
| 21:33 |
jojoa1997 |
wish i could |
| 21:33 |
sapier1 |
finde some outdated pdf books in web |
| 21:33 |
sapier1 |
basic concepts stay same |
| 21:34 |
kaeza |
pandaro, other than destroying your computer, there's nothing bad you can do by experimenting 8) |
| 21:34 |
kaeza |
J/K |
| 21:34 |
jojoa1997 |
lua is kinda like my math class with proofs |
| 21:34 |
jojoa1997 |
if blah then bleh |
| 21:34 |
jojoa1997 |
if not blah then bleh |
| 21:34 |
sapier1 |
thats syntax ;-) |
| 21:34 |
kaeza |
if A then B else C |
| 21:34 |
sapier1 |
concepts are a little bit more than if else |
| 21:35 |
pandaro |
I did not want to start this diatribe |
| 21:35 |
jojoa1997 |
what is a ditribe |
| 21:36 |
kaeza |
pandaro, your best bet would be getting a proper programming course :) |
| 21:36 |
kaeza |
most (if not all) of us are not programming teachers |
| 21:37 |
sapier1 |
you can't quite teache someone programming |
| 21:37 |
kaeza |
sapier1, I know, programming is like poetry to me |
| 21:38 |
kaeza |
but at least they can teach the basics like syntax and such |
| 21:38 |
kaeza |
and point in the right direction to keep learning |
| 21:38 |
sapier1 |
you need to develop some kind of pattern in your mind and improve it ... if you don't master this first step you'll never get done with it ... after that you need to see lots of code from other developers to learn how others solve a problem |
| 21:39 |
* jojoa1997 |
head is boiling with anger |
| 21:39 |
jojoa1997 |
LOOK HERE AT WHAT HE SAYS |
| 21:39 |
jojoa1997 |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4455 |
| 21:39 |
jojoa1997 |
He didn't even try |
| 21:39 |
pandaro |
so far I have not asked anyone to teach me anything |
| 21:39 |
sapier1 |
calm down ;-) |
| 21:39 |
jojoa1997 |
i have not asked but i do ask questions |
| 21:39 |
kaeza |
WTH? |
| 21:40 |
* jojoa1997 |
taking a deep breath |
| 21:40 |
sapier1 |
just don't read it ;-) |
| 21:41 |
kaeza |
jojoa1997, chase is 9 yrs old IIRC |
| 21:41 |
jojoa1997 |
oh |
| 21:41 |
sapier1 |
you haven't been reading lots of tutorials too jojoa ;-) |
| 21:42 |
sapier1 |
9 yrs ... respect at that age I stopped my first attempt to learn c because I wasn't able to create that patterns |
| 21:42 |
kaeza |
jojoa1997, you also told someone to "change" the "quotes" to 'quotes' to make it work lol |
| 21:42 |
jojoa1997 |
i have been reading the api and making some but i dint just minestet.register_craft blah |
| 21:42 |
kaeza |
great advice |
| 21:42 |
jojoa1997 |
well that is what happened to me and gave me an error |
| 21:43 |
jojoa1997 |
the ' ' didnt work out with it |
| 21:43 |
jojoa1997 |
so ' ' and " " are the same |
| 21:43 |
marktraceur |
In some languages, yeah |
| 21:43 |
kaeza |
jojoa1997, as long as you close the quotes properly, both " and ' are valid quoted strings in lua |
| 21:43 |
marktraceur |
'"' + "'" |
| 21:44 |
jojoa1997 |
ok that is good to know |
| 21:44 |
marktraceur |
Oh, bloody lua |
| 21:44 |
marktraceur |
'"' .. "'" |
| 21:44 |
kaeza |
marktraceur, fail |
| 21:44 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 21:44 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: I work in JavaScript all day, and I love it. |
| 21:44 |
kaeza |
yeah |
| 21:44 |
kaeza |
most langs take + as string concat |
| 21:45 |
sapier1 |
c/c++ don't |
| 21:45 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: Hilariously, in a language that loves strings (Lua), it's not true |
| 21:45 |
sapier1 |
at least without support libs |
| 21:45 |
kaeza |
Lua, Python, JS, and Java do |
| 21:45 |
kaeza |
s/Lua// |
| 21:46 |
sapier1 |
no not hilarious ... lua doesn't have type information for variables so it needs to decide by operator what to do |
| 21:46 |
kaeza |
sapier1, did you know you can modify a value's metatable to support concat using '+' in Lua? |
| 21:46 |
sapier1 |
no I didn't |
| 21:47 |
kaeza |
you can do almost anything with the language in lua |
| 21:47 |
sapier1 |
ok "no type information" isn't quite true too ... but not as strict as c++ and not as less as c |
| 21:48 |
marktraceur |
kaeza: ", Python, JS, and Java do" |
| 21:48 |
marktraceur |
l2regex |
| 21:48 |
* kaeza |
phails at regexes |
| 21:48 |
kaeza |
sapier1, lua *does* have type info |
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| 21:49 |
sapier1 |
yes but it hides them from user |
| 21:49 |
kaeza |
nope |
| 21:49 |
kaeza |
try this: |
| 21:49 |
kaeza |
if (type(a) == "string) then ... |
| 21:49 |
sapier1 |
normaly it does you may access them I know |
| 21:49 |
kaeza |
whoops |
| 21:49 |
kaeza |
forgot a quote |
| 21:49 |
sapier1 |
I've used it numerous times |
| 21:50 |
jojoa1997 |
does anyone have a hunger games server up |
| 21:50 |
sapier1 |
still you normaly don't set a type |
| 21:50 |
Muadtralk |
doesnt infinity project? |
| 21:51 |
kaeza |
sapier1, that's because lua does not use statically typed vars |
| 21:51 |
kaeza |
(like C-like languages) |
| 21:51 |
sapier1 |
which is a real pain |
| 21:51 |
sapier1 |
you don't see what type a variable is from code |
| 21:52 |
kaeza |
I get your point |
| 21:52 |
kaeza |
you don't see "number function foo ( number a )" |
| 21:52 |
sapier1 |
yes put not seeing if something is a pointer is worse |
| 21:53 |
* VanessaE |
is back (yay.) |
| 21:53 |
kaeza |
sapier1, there are no pointers in Lua |
| 21:53 |
sapier1 |
-put + but |
| 21:53 |
sapier1 |
there are! ... they are called table ;-) |
| 21:53 |
marktraceur |
Just like there's no crying in football |
| 21:53 |
kaeza |
nope |
| 21:53 |
marktraceur |
sapier1: References, not pointers |
| 21:53 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: that's baseball. :) |
| 21:53 |
kaeza |
tables are [associative] arrays |
| 21:53 |
kaeza |
hi V |
| 21:53 |
sapier1 |
in practice that doesn't make a difference |
| 21:54 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: Baseball includes boredom-induced crying....not from me, but from a lot of others |
| 21:54 |
kaeza |
sapier1, then use if (type(x) == "table") :) |
| 21:55 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: "There's no crying in baseball!" -- Tom Hanks, "League of Their Own" |
| 21:55 |
sapier1 |
it's not quite practical to check type prior access to any variable ;-) |
| 21:55 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: I maybe saw that once |
| 21:56 |
sapier1 |
so only way to go is be very carefull if using tables as parameters |
| 21:56 |
VanessaE |
eh, way to kill the joke :) |
| 21:56 |
kaeza |
sapier1, not really, if you document your functions well |
| 21:56 |
kaeza |
C++ is worse |
| 21:56 |
sapier1 |
:-) "be very carefull" ;-) |
| 21:57 |
FreeFull |
I like functional programming |
| 21:57 |
sapier1 |
no it isn't c++ compiler does type checking and rtti does additional while running |
| 21:59 |
kaeza |
and you can also that in Lua with a proper wrapper ;) |
| 22:00 |
kaeza |
*do |
| 22:01 |
jojoa1997 |
bbl cya |
| 22:01 |
kaeza |
anyway, there's no other way to enforce type safety from Lua |
| 22:01 |
sapier1 |
we are not talking about what can be done with additions ;-) have a look at strongswan sourcecode ... its plain c but effectively using object orientation ... they've simply implemented any language syntax as macro addons |
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| 22:17 |
kaeza |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4456 |
| 22:17 |
kaeza |
i reserve my comments on this one ^^ |
| 22:18 |
Uberi |
I find it somewhat hard to remain impartial |
| 22:18 |
Uberi |
also, what's a frist mod? |
| 22:18 |
VanessaE |
is that like a frist psot? |
| 22:19 |
VanessaE |
(first post, in slashdot-speak) |
| 22:19 |
Uberi |
ARGH HE LINKED TO MINETEST.NET AS HIS WORLDS |
| 22:19 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: you may now proceed to tell him he's a blithering idiot ;) |
| 22:19 |
Uberi |
and plaigerized the gamedev.net article for his code |
| 22:20 |
Uberi |
I have no idea what's going on here |
| 22:20 |
Uberi |
well it doesn't matter the mod doesn't work anyways |
| 22:21 |
* Oblivion1500 |
has after a little wile developed pretty good bash knowledge, and is now going to use glade to make myself some usefull gui's :) |
| 22:21 |
sapier1 |
someone told it's a 9yr old boy ... so plz stay calm ;-) |
| 22:22 |
VanessaE |
9 years old!? |
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* VanessaE |
panics! |
| 22:22 |
VanessaE |
;) |
| 22:22 |
Uberi |
who cares if he's 9 years old? when I was 9 I at least was writing my own darn code |
| 22:22 |
sapier1 |
not everyone is as smart as you uberi ;-) |
| 22:23 |
Muadtralk |
when I was 9 I was reading and understanding Orwell :P |
| 22:23 |
Muadtralk |
not so keen on computers back then |
| 22:23 |
Uberi |
still, I guess it's a good learning experience |
| 22:23 |
Uberi |
maybe that guy will eventually pick something up about C++ and take the software world by storm |
| 22:23 |
sapier1 |
and don't tell me you didn't copy your "hello world" first time you created one I won't believe you either ;-P |
| 22:24 |
Uberi |
sapier1: well yeah I suppose you're right :P |
| 22:24 |
Uberi |
"Hello world" better not be copyrighted |
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marktraceur |
Uberi: Patented, actually. By Alexander Bell. |
| 22:25 |
sapier1 |
I think I should try to get a patent on learning programming languages by starting with hello world app |
| 22:25 |
Uberi |
I bet you'd get the patent |
| 22:25 |
sapier1 |
hmmm seems that guy was stealing faster than me ;-) |
| 22:25 |
Uberi |
marktraceur: no way! |
| 22:26 |
Uberi |
doesn't it lapse into public domain after 50 years? |
| 22:26 |
VanessaE |
someone in Australia managed to get a patent for the wheel some years back, and it held out for a short while too :-) |
| 22:26 |
Uberi |
heheheh |
| 22:26 |
Uberi |
at least in Canada, we have automatic public domain 50 years after the death of the holder |
| 22:26 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: Only if your estate isn't held by jackasses, I guess |
| 22:27 |
Uberi |
oh darn, I forgot about the estate |
| 22:27 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: for patents, 28 years if you renew, 14 if not. for copyrights, 90 years. |
| 22:27 |
sapier1 |
global patent systems are broken somehow ... i accept patents are needed for some developments but in computer sciences they're bad |
| 22:27 |
NakedFury |
we need a global patent system that wont be exploited by opportunistic bastards |
| 22:27 |
Uberi |
is it possible? |
| 22:27 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: I mean in the US that is. |
| 22:27 |
Uberi |
is there such a system, even in theory? |
| 22:28 |
VanessaE |
sure it could happen, *in theory*, but all of us know that it'll be corrupted, twisted, and exploited to death anyway |
| 22:28 |
marktraceur |
If international law weren't an oxymoron |
| 22:28 |
sapier1 |
we don't need software patents at all |
| 22:28 |
Uberi |
sapier1: but then who would fund innovation? |
| 22:29 |
sapier1 |
those who need to be protected can't afford to protect themselfs by patents either |
| 22:29 |
VanessaE |
"oxymoron"... oh you mean that guy who died recently who was pushing the laundry products? ;-) |
| 22:29 |
Uberi |
true |
| 22:29 |
sapier1 |
and big companys like apple samsung google microsoft and co don't need any protection |
| 22:29 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: hey that product worked! <_< |
| 22:29 |
NakedFury |
patents are used to backstab big $$$ products years after they are done for some of the $$$ |
| 22:29 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: I never said it didn't ;-) |
| 22:30 |
Uberi |
sapier1: well, if they came up with something really innovative they would |
| 22:30 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: oxyclean just can't beat CLR though |
| 22:30 |
sapier1 |
no they wouldn't |
| 22:30 |
sapier1 |
to create any product you HAVE to violate hundreds and thousands of simple patents |
| 22:31 |
sapier1 |
so no small company ever will be able to get critical mass prior being taken to court |
| 22:31 |
Uberi |
I think getting taken to court should not be so costly, expensive, and huge a deal |
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Uberi |
I think it is more effective to fix the court system than just the patent system |
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marktraceur |
You shouldn't think "Aw, have to go to court" you should think "ALL RIGHT! I get to argue for an hour today!" |
| 22:32 |
sapier1 |
it's not costly just sell to google microsoft ... whoever and you're done |
| 22:32 |
Uberi |
that way you benefit a lot more than just the software industry |
| 22:32 |
Uberi |
marktraceur: exactly! I love arguing! I should be a lawyer! |
| 22:33 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: High five for probably-should-be-lawyers |
| 22:33 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: Oh, and you're in Canada! They have the kickass robes! |
| 22:33 |
sapier1 |
if there were any change that alone would do a big difference that'd maybe worth a patent ... but I can't remember any single change having that effect |
| 22:33 |
Uberi |
marktraceur: 'tis true, the robes are sweet |
| 22:34 |
Uberi |
sapier1: sliced bread! |
| 22:34 |
Uberi |
everyone keeps claiming it for their own |
| 22:34 |
Uberi |
as if they invented it |
| 22:34 |
sapier1 |
we're talking about software ;-) |
| 22:34 |
Uberi |
sapier1: Sliced_Bread.exe |
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marktraceur |
Uberi: The problem is none of them have the balls to keep prior art around. I have a sandwich from 1950 in my fridge just waiting for someone to challenge my patent. |
| 22:35 |
VanessaE |
marktraceur: you better re-check that, it's surely grown legs and walked out by now... :) |
| 22:35 |
Uberi |
marktraceur: exactly, you'd wait all the way until you need to appear in court |
| 22:35 |
Uberi |
and then you fire your appointed lawyer |
| 22:35 |
Uberi |
walk up to the bench |
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marktraceur |
VanessaE: No, after the last escape attempt I posted guards. No problem. |
| 22:36 |
Uberi |
and just slam that sandwich down |
| 22:36 |
Uberi |
case closed |
| 22:36 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 22:36 |
Uberi |
and the plaintiff is out all his court costs |
| 22:36 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: Biological warfare is no way to comport oneself in a court of law. |
| 22:37 |
Uberi |
marktraceur: well if you want to fix the court system, you have to do it one smelly sentient sandwich at a time |
| 22:38 |
sapier1 |
still have a look at apples "rounded corners" design patent ... I've got an old analog pad at home looking almost exactly same as an ipad ;-) |
| 22:38 |
Uberi |
hogwash, clearly a time travellor must have brought it back |
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sapier1 |
http://www.gelsenkirchener-geschichten.de/userpix/837/837_Tafel_Buchstaben_1_1.jpg |
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sapier1 |
it's got even the "button" |
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Uberi |
:O |
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Uberi |
see what I mean? |
| 22:41 |
sapier1 |
so how the hell got that design a patent? |
| 22:42 |
Uberi |
some patent clerk got paid a lot of money under the table |
| 22:42 |
sapier1 |
it's even better than an ipad you can write to it! |
| 22:43 |
Uberi |
whoa |
| 22:43 |
Uberi |
how's the battery life? |
| 22:43 |
Muadtralk |
unlimited |
| 22:43 |
Uberi |
O_o |
| 22:44 |
Muadtralk |
and it has multitasking |
| 22:44 |
Uberi |
must be some sort of perpetual motion machine in there |
| 22:44 |
sapier1 |
more than 1000000 write erase cycles |
| 22:44 |
Uberi |
amazing |
| 22:44 |
Uberi |
looks like some sort of high tech e-ink screen |
| 22:44 |
sapier1 |
unlimited resolution and readable in direct sun too |
| 22:45 |
Muadtralk |
can you drop it? |
| 22:45 |
Muadtralk |
and have it not break? |
| 22:45 |
NakedFury |
better shock resistance too |
| 22:45 |
sapier1 |
not quite sure depends on device there are shock resistant ones roo |
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sapier1 |
it even has some sort of primitive sound device ... but most dont ppl like its sound |
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sapier1 |
ppl dont :-) |
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Dogzilla131 |
Can somebody help me use the work bench? It says bigger but how bigger. http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3275 |
| 23:00 |
VanessaE |
it means you need to be using recipes that can take advantage of a 4x4 or 5x5 crafting grid. |
| 23:01 |
Dogzilla131 |
LIke? |
| 23:01 |
VanessaE |
like..whatever mod uses them :-) |
| 23:01 |
VanessaE |
I think nekogloop's toolsizes does |
| 23:01 |
VanessaE |
there's example Lua code right there on the page |
| 23:03 |
Dogzilla131 |
Yeah, but it doesn't show with tools. |
| 23:04 |
VanessaE |
tools use the same kind of crafting recipes that other stuff uses I thought? |
| 23:05 |
Dogzilla131 |
so like how do you make medium size stone tool? |
| 23:05 |
VanessaE |
write a mod that can craft such a thing |
| 23:06 |
VanessaE |
workbench doesn't change any existing recipes, it just lets modders create bigger ones |
| 23:09 |
Dogzilla131 |
How, can you show me an example for a big tool |
| 23:10 |
VanessaE |
use the code on the page |
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VanessaE |
instead of three rows with three items each, you can go up to 5 rows with 5 items each |
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VanessaE |
there's really nothing to id |
| 23:11 |
VanessaE |
it* |
| 23:11 |
NakedFury |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1172 |
| 23:11 |
NakedFury |
I had not seen that little program |
| 23:12 |
Uberi |
oh yeah NakedFury I'm not maintaining that anymore |
| 23:12 |
Uberi |
go use Nore's simulator instead |
| 23:17 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: Randomly, I ping you about http://dev.minetest.net/User:MarkTraceur/Tech_tree_idea |
| 23:17 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: Mostly just wondering if you'd like to run with it |
| 23:19 |
NakedFury |
it would be beyond what I know. I cant code ground breaking stuff that goes beyond what the api has and that is also limited. I would love to be able to do it. |
| 23:19 |
Uberi |
like how pilzadam discovered the wielditem technique of making 3d entities |
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marktraceur |
I don't think it breaks new ground |
| 23:20 |
Uberi |
that was pretty amazing |
| 23:20 |
marktraceur |
I think if you do it right, it will follow the existing API paradigm and be a great addition to the game |
| 23:21 |
NakedFury |
I will have to try. |
| 23:21 |
NakedFury |
no harm in trying it |
| 23:22 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: If you need help I can step in every once in a while |
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kaeza |
chopped down a pine tree lol: 85 tree blocks and around 800 leaves |
| 23:25 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: using RBA's new trees test program? |
| 23:25 |
kaeza |
your moretrees on Octuworld |
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VanessaE |
oh |
| 23:26 |
VanessaE |
those are conifers ;-) |
| 23:26 |
VanessaE |
not just "pine" trees ;) |
| 23:26 |
kaeza |
oh |
| 23:26 |
kaeza |
you are right lol |
| 23:27 |
kaeza |
the huge amount of entities surely would kill the server |
| 23:27 |
kaeza |
maybe I should recommend OC to deactivate leaf decay |
| 23:28 |
VanessaE |
I disabled that on mine also |
| 23:28 |
NakedFury |
too many leaves |
| 23:31 |
kaeza |
809 to be precise |
| 23:32 |
kaeza |
also, entity handling on the client is somewhat bugged |
| 23:32 |
kaeza |
my FPS is now 15 |
| 23:32 |
kaeza |
even though I have collected all the leaves |
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kaeza |
oh and 43 saplings :) |
| 23:34 |
RealBadAngel |
try big oak, 5,5k leaves and 300 tree nodes ;) |
| 23:35 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 23:35 |
kaeza |
HAH and I chopped it for nothing. It seems I cannot craft the trunks into planks :/ |
| 23:36 |
RealBadAngel |
im doing now planks textures for all the trees |
| 23:36 |
kaeza |
oh ok |
| 23:36 |
kaeza |
then I will stash the trunks somewhere |
| 23:37 |
kaeza |
also, it seems conifer leaves cannot be used as fuel |
| 23:39 |
kaeza |
trunks seem to work ok |
| 23:40 |
NakedFury |
maybe increase a chance to NOT get leaves? needing 20 chests to stor 5.5 leaves is overkill |
| 23:41 |
kaeza |
lol make them falling nodes when no trunk is near |
| 23:41 |
kaeza |
that should be a nice view to see |
| 23:41 |
marktraceur |
NakedFury: Burn it! BUUUUURRRRRNNNNN ITTTTTT |
| 23:42 |
NakedFury |
add a machete and only drop the leaves if you use it on them |
| 23:42 |
kaeza |
add a real physincs engine and make trees tumbe when you cut a single node :) |
| 23:42 |
marktraceur |
Or maybe add a node dirt_with_leaves, then dirt_with_dead_leves, then it goes back to dirt_with_grass |
| 23:42 |
kaeza |
physics. even |
| 23:43 |
marktraceur |
Real live biology! Inside your computer! |
| 23:43 |
kaeza |
tumble* |
| 23:43 |
Uberi |
individual leaves undergoing finite element fluid simulations |
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kaeza |
marktraceur, that could be possible by using the code for snow biomes :) |
| 23:44 |
kaeza |
i.e. the falling snow |
| 23:44 |
Uberi |
the cellulose structure of each visible to the naked eye |
| 23:44 |
Uberi |
you punch a tree, and break a knuckle bone |
| 23:44 |
Uberi |
you try to mine stone with a wood pick, and it snaps in two |
| 23:45 |
NakedFury |
uberi that would be a hard game to play |
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marktraceur |
kaeza: Why? Just set an ABM that searches down for a dirt node, then change it to dirt_with_leaves |
| 23:46 |
marktraceur |
Might be a good idea to also have dirt_with_grass_with_leaves so you don't need to store metadata about whether there was grass on it before |
| 23:47 |
Uberi |
NakedFury: you punch the dirt, and... nothing happens |
| 23:47 |
NakedFury |
you will need more animations uberi |
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Uberi |
totally |
| 23:48 |
NakedFury |
actually having a tool breaking animation instead of it dissappearing would be a good idea |
| 23:51 |
kaeza |
NakedFury, or add a "broken" item for every tool. Which replaces the original tool |
| 23:51 |
Uberi |
nooooo |
| 23:52 |
kaeza |
and crafting the broken tool with a block of the material it's made of would restore it |
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NakedFury |
I meant how they break in minecraft. no extra textures for it |
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kaeza |
marktraceur, but having separate "leaves" (like the "snow") makes it possible to put it over all kinds of nodes without having to define a x_node_with_leaves node |
| 23:54 |
kaeza |
not just grass |
| 23:54 |
marktraceur |
Good point |
| 23:54 |
NakedFury |
easy: big pile of leaves, medium pile of leaves, small |
| 23:55 |
NakedFury |
3 diifferent textures and stages |
| 23:55 |
marktraceur |
All walkable (but maybe slow you if it's big) |
| 23:56 |
NakedFury |
and new sounds |
