| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
kaeza |
+1 though |
| 00:00 |
ruskie |
iqualfragile, if I get a highlight I read it |
| 00:01 |
ruskie |
anyway it's 01:00 and I've been trying to get to sleep for the last 2 hours |
| 00:01 |
ruskie |
back to trying to |
| 00:01 |
iqualfragile |
:D sleep well |
| 00:04 |
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| 00:10 |
VanessaE |
sapier1: formspec for mobs would work for entities (minecarts) too, wouldn't it? |
| 00:12 |
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| 00:15 |
mauvebic |
water has to be under pump only? |
| 00:15 |
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| 00:16 |
sapier1 |
@vanessaE yes |
| 00:16 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: I think it can be under or next to it |
| 00:17 |
VanessaE |
sapier1: nice. |
| 00:17 |
VanessaE |
we're gonna need that for carts to actually become useful besides a way for the player to follow a predefined path |
| 00:18 |
thexyz |
sapier1: better ask for review in -dev |
| 00:19 |
sapier1 |
@thexyz ok |
| 00:25 |
TB|Vibe-X |
so i iwll go sleep. have a nice night ;) |
| 00:25 |
VanessaE |
night |
| 00:39 |
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| 00:42 |
mauvebic |
im not crazy about the new full water level: placing a pump above it makes it look hovering |
| 00:42 |
VanessaE |
yeah, me neither |
| 00:42 |
VanessaE |
the same thing happens to waterlilies, seaweed, anything else that's raillike or signlike |
| 00:42 |
mauvebic |
engine or lua change? |
| 00:43 |
VanessaE |
engine change - shaders. |
| 00:43 |
VanessaE |
I suppose I could extend the bottom of the node by exploiting the visual_scale= parameter.. |
| 00:43 |
mauvebic |
so theres no way to set water level to 100% of the node? |
| 00:43 |
VanessaE |
yeah, turn shaders off. |
| 00:44 |
mauvebic |
anything that can be fixed? |
| 00:44 |
VanessaE |
I'm not sure how, but yeah it's fixable in the shader files used in the game |
| 00:45 |
PilzAdam |
c55 said it should be done in c++ and not in shaders |
| 00:45 |
Exio |
grrr, is anyone having 'over swap usage' of minetest when joining a server with a lot of mods? |
| 00:46 |
Exio |
| ram: 117/877 | swp: 1467/580 | |
| 00:47 |
Doc22_ |
i think (someone correct me if im wrong) that it means that your hard drive's swap partition is too small |
| 00:47 |
Exio |
mt runs smooth, 55~ FPS, but that is annoying :P |
| 00:47 |
Exio |
Doc22_: 2 GB aren't enough? wut |
| 00:47 |
Doc22_ |
a lot of mods can easily take up that much |
| 00:47 |
Doc22_ |
but im not sure |
| 00:47 |
Doc22_ |
thats all I can think of |
| 00:47 |
VanessaE |
well that sucks...visual_scale is ignored when using nodeboxes :( |
| 00:48 |
Exio |
Doc22_: for me it is weird because mt runs smooth ... i dont have any lagspike or whatever |
| 00:48 |
Doc22_ |
nonono |
| 00:48 |
Doc22_ |
swap wont affect fps |
| 00:48 |
Doc22_ |
swap is what is used for copying /moving files |
| 00:49 |
Exio |
? |
| 00:49 |
Doc22_ |
in this case, installing them |
| 00:49 |
Exio |
uh? |
| 00:49 |
Doc22_ |
(the mods) |
| 00:49 |
Doc22_ |
and it cant hold it all at once |
| 00:49 |
Doc22_ |
its part of the hard drive partition |
| 00:50 |
Exio |
Doc22_: i think you don't get my point |
| 00:50 |
VanessaE |
Doc22_: um, no. that's not what swap is normally used for. it is used for programs that need to allocate memory but can't if the physical RAM is already entirely spoken for (or nearly so). When that happens, the OS maps some swap space on disk into memory and uses that to operate from. In theory, only old, seldom-used code gets pushed out to swap first, so that physical RAM can still be used for programs that are actually ru |
| 00:50 |
VanessaE |
nning. |
| 00:50 |
Exio |
heeey VanessaE |
| 00:50 |
Doc22_ |
hmm |
| 00:50 |
Doc22_ |
well im not an expert |
| 00:51 |
Doc22_ |
thats why I added (correct me if im wrong) |
| 00:51 |
Exio |
i started writing something like that |
| 00:51 |
Doc22_ |
just throwing stuff out there lol |
| 00:51 |
Exio |
:( |
| 00:51 |
VanessaE |
if you have 1024 MB of RAM and you ned to allocate say 1500 MB of RAM for whatever programs are running, about 500 MB has to be pushed off to disk, so the OS will start by moving data out of memory that hasn't been used in a while. |
| 00:51 |
VanessaE |
need* |
| 00:53 |
VanessaE |
(assuming that there are no >1024MB chunks that MUST be locked into RAM) |
| 00:54 |
VanessaE |
and yes, operating out of swap most definitely WILL kill your FPS if there's enough swap activity, especially if some of Minetest's code has to operate from there. |
| 00:54 |
Exio |
or at least it will cause some 'lagspike' when loading the stuff |
| 00:55 |
VanessaE |
Exio: that depends on how much has to be recalled into physical memory at any one time. |
| 00:56 |
VanessaE |
if you're talking about thousands of little 1MB lumps of data filling up your swap, you'll probably see it as erratic, low FPS. If it's big chunks (say over 10MB), it'll look more like lag. |
| 00:57 |
Exio |
ah, yeah :P |
| 00:58 |
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| 00:58 |
Exio |
:D i found my first legit mese |
| 00:58 |
VanessaE |
cool |
| 00:59 |
Exio |
i found a lot of mese when playing in creative, but never in 'survival' :P |
| 00:59 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE: hamgover over? |
| 00:59 |
jojoa1997 |
*hangover |
| 00:59 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 00:59 |
VanessaE |
I'm not hungover at all actually. |
| 00:59 |
VanessaE |
but I was sure drunk last night :D |
| 01:01 |
Doc22_ |
lol |
| 01:03 |
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| 01:04 |
Kacey |
back |
| 01:04 |
Doc22_ |
hi |
| 01:05 |
Kacey |
ooh hai |
| 01:05 |
Doc22_ |
VanessaE do you know about shaders? |
| 01:05 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 01:05 |
Doc22_ |
ok |
| 01:05 |
VanessaE |
I only know they exist, that's uit] |
| 01:06 |
Doc22_ |
who would I ask |
| 01:06 |
VanessaE |
it* |
| 01:06 |
Doc22_ |
lol |
| 01:06 |
VanessaE |
I don't know how they work, not sure who to ask either |
| 01:06 |
VanessaE |
maybe Taoki |
| 01:06 |
Doc22_ |
ok |
| 01:07 |
Doc22_ |
Taoki[laptop]|aw where would be a good place for me to learn about shaders for GLSL |
| 01:07 |
Kacey |
this thing makes fowarding ports hard |
| 01:07 |
Doc22_ |
what thing |
| 01:07 |
Kacey |
fraking ie |
| 01:07 |
Doc22_ |
lol |
| 01:07 |
Doc22_ |
get firefox |
| 01:07 |
VanessaE |
so use firefox or chrome :-) |
| 01:08 |
Kacey |
again not my computer |
| 01:08 |
VanessaE |
so go use yours then |
| 01:08 |
Doc22_ |
i bet hes not at his |
| 01:08 |
VanessaE |
obviously |
| 01:08 |
Kacey |
mine is cooling off |
| 01:08 |
Kacey |
still |
| 01:08 |
Kacey |
it was overheating bad |
| 01:09 |
VanessaE |
time to buy a new cooler then |
| 01:09 |
Kacey |
it cant fit anything new it is too small |
| 01:09 |
VanessaE |
you haven't looked hard enough - if it's a PC, someone somewhere has an appropirate cooler for it |
| 01:10 |
VanessaE |
appropriate* |
| 01:10 |
Kacey |
look up the asus aspire one |
| 01:10 |
Kacey |
that thing is tiny |
| 01:10 |
VanessaE |
oh, netbook. |
| 01:10 |
Kacey |
it can hide in a dictionary it is so small |
| 01:11 |
VanessaE |
that notebook is under recall for overheating problems. |
| 01:11 |
VanessaE |
you need to contact Acer immediately. |
| 01:11 |
VanessaE |
er, nevermind |
| 01:11 |
Kacey |
mine never overheated until today |
| 01:11 |
VanessaE |
that's for some microphone cable thing |
| 01:12 |
Kacey |
i left it on for 5 days in a row |
| 01:12 |
Kacey |
it started melting the tv tray it was on |
| 01:12 |
VanessaE |
shit |
| 01:12 |
Kacey |
but it is still hot |
| 01:13 |
VanessaE |
have you opened it up and checked for dust/hair clogging the vents/cooler? |
| 01:13 |
Kacey |
5 days of nonstop running... hmm i wonder why it overheated |
| 01:13 |
VanessaE |
that doesn't mean anything. |
| 01:14 |
VanessaE |
computers are supposed to be able to run for months to years at a time, even a laptop should be able to handle a few weeks' worth of operation. |
| 01:14 |
Exio |
asus? |
| 01:14 |
Exio |
aspire one? |
| 01:14 |
Kacey |
it is soo small that it kinda heats up fast |
| 01:14 |
Kacey |
acer is what i meant |
| 01:14 |
Exio |
i have an ACER aspire one |
| 01:14 |
Exio |
i'm playing in it |
| 01:14 |
Kacey |
mine ran windows xp |
| 01:14 |
Kacey |
then i went to xubuntu |
| 01:15 |
Exio |
try with some real distro |
| 01:15 |
kaeza|jEdit |
wine can now run operating systems? wow |
| 01:15 |
Exio |
lol? |
| 01:15 |
kaeza|jEdit |
<Kacey> mine ran windows xp |
| 01:15 |
kaeza|jEdit |
lol |
| 01:15 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: comprehension FAIL :) |
| 01:16 |
Exio |
or font fail |
| 01:16 |
VanessaE |
kaeza|jEdit: ^^ |
| 01:16 |
Exio |
m != w :P |
| 01:16 |
kaeza|jEdit |
.. |
| 01:16 |
kaeza|jEdit |
lol |
| 01:16 |
kaeza|jEdit |
fcking fractional font metrics |
| 01:16 |
Kacey |
my acer ran xp is what i meant |
| 01:17 |
kaeza|jEdit |
the m seems like a w lol |
| 01:17 |
kaeza|jEdit |
nvm |
| 01:17 |
Kacey |
i need a new video card for it, but nothing new will fit lol |
| 01:17 |
* kaeza|jEdit |
goes back to designing a new poprocn machine mod |
| 01:18 |
kaeza|jEdit |
popcorn* |
| 01:19 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: anyway, either return the netbook for servicing while the warranty is still in effect, or open it up and clean out the dust. that's probably why it's overheating. Get some Arctic Silver heat sink compound and clean off and replace that which is on your CPU cooler. |
| 01:19 |
VanessaE |
(open it and your warranty will be no good, of course) |
| 01:20 |
Kacey |
i got it from a pawn shop but it ran just fine |
| 01:20 |
VanessaE |
well obviously there's no warranty now. |
| 01:20 |
VanessaE |
crack it open and clean it up. |
| 01:20 |
VanessaE |
computers are like that - they work great for a while, then suddenly something stops working right. |
| 01:20 |
Kacey |
i need a battery for it |
| 01:20 |
* Kacey |
is tired of having to keep it plugged in all the time |
| 01:21 |
VanessaE |
what's the model number? |
| 01:21 |
Kacey |
uuuum idk let me check |
| 01:21 |
Kacey |
on the battery or computer? |
| 01:21 |
VanessaE |
the computer |
| 01:23 |
Kacey |
KAV60 |
| 01:23 |
Kacey |
is what it says |
| 01:24 |
VanessaE |
looks like about $26 from feebay |
| 01:25 |
VanessaE |
actually make that about $16.56 |
| 01:25 |
VanessaE |
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Notebook-Battery-for-Acer-Aspire-One-10-1INCH-8-9INCH-9-A0A110-D250-KAV10-KAV60-/350602715824?pt=Laptop_Batteries&hash=item51a18ce2b0 |
| 01:25 |
Kacey |
$189.99 from the pawn shop for everything |
| 01:25 |
VanessaE |
free shipping out of NJ |
| 01:26 |
Kacey |
i need one here in colorado preferably in pueblo |
| 01:26 |
RealBadAngel |
to mars too? ;) |
| 01:26 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: possibly, if you don't mind waiting about 5 years to get it ;) |
| 01:26 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: um...just order it? |
| 01:26 |
VanessaE |
(or have parents do it) |
| 01:27 |
Kacey |
we dont order onlineanymore |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
why? |
| 01:28 |
Kacey |
we ordered something and never got it for a couple years and when we got it, it was broken in every spot possible |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
for a couple of years?? |
| 01:28 |
Kacey |
ya |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
that's a ridiculous time to wait |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
try again. |
| 01:28 |
Kacey |
uuum no |
| 01:29 |
VanessaE |
one bad experience should not dissuade you from buying online from reputable merchants. |
| 01:29 |
FreeFull |
One of the other players doesn't seem to move from the point of view of my client |
| 01:29 |
VanessaE |
FreeFull: he's probably using 0.4.3 |
| 01:31 |
jojoa1997 |
im back |
| 01:31 |
FreeFull |
VanessaE: Nope, 0.4.4 |
| 01:31 |
FreeFull |
Seems to be related to extreme lag I'm getting, but other players move around fine |
| 01:31 |
FreeFull |
Restarting minetest doesn't help |
| 01:31 |
PilzAdam |
FreeFull, is the player attached to a boat or cart? |
| 01:31 |
Kacey |
afk going to fix other computer |
| 01:34 |
FreeFull |
PilzAdam: No |
| 01:34 |
FreeFull |
I think it's just the lag |
| 01:38 |
Exio |
do you have mobs in the server? |
| 01:39 |
sdzen|burnt |
Or L system trees |
| 01:39 |
sdzen|burnt |
or whatever they are called |
| 01:39 |
kaeza |
anyone likes this? It was done for a friend, but it could be useful for others as well: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/minetest/mods/Kaeza-teather_decor.png |
| 01:40 |
VanessaE |
mmm popcorn |
| 01:40 |
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| 01:40 |
kaeza |
:P |
| 01:40 |
Kacey |
oops dont close the computer lol |
| 01:40 |
sdzen |
Kacey thats why you only order online from trusted distributors |
| 01:41 |
sdzen |
my rule is if it has more good reviews then bad it tends to be trustable |
| 01:41 |
Kacey |
im looking up what video card i need for my computer |
| 01:41 |
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| 01:41 |
kaeza |
VanessaE: here's the DL if you like it: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/minetest/mods/Kaeza-teather_decor.zip |
| 01:42 |
kaeza |
no craft recipe yet |
| 01:42 |
LAD |
VanessaE??? |
| 01:42 |
PilzAdam |
kaeza, idea for crafting: corn from farming mod + a cd for "pop" ;-) |
| 01:42 |
LAD |
hmmm |
| 01:43 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 01:43 |
LAD |
i've put my mod on the forums but would like to ask help to make a crafting resipe for it |
| 01:43 |
kaeza |
hmm |
| 01:43 |
VanessaE |
hi LAD. |
| 01:43 |
kaeza |
glass+corn |
| 01:43 |
VanessaE |
what mod? |
| 01:43 |
LAD |
my new one |
| 01:43 |
LAD |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4294 |
| 01:43 |
moltenbot |
LAD's link: [MOD]ruby_pick[ruby] (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums |
| 01:43 |
LAD |
just made it |
| 01:43 |
LAD |
yea that's it |
| 01:43 |
sdzen |
rice krispies plus corn |
| 01:44 |
sdzen |
snap crackle pop |
| 01:44 |
LAD |
just wounder if i would get help with resipe codeing? |
| 01:44 |
Kacey |
make a pot and then put corn in it lol |
| 01:44 |
VanessaE |
LAD: well you need to start by finding a way to get rubies in the first place - it seems a little silly to make a ruby pick without them :-) |
| 01:44 |
sdzen |
get some pot from the weed mod |
| 01:44 |
sdzen |
put some corn in that |
| 01:44 |
Kacey |
lol no |
| 01:45 |
LAD |
yup |
| 01:45 |
sdzen |
why not? |
| 01:45 |
LAD |
im working on the code for the block |
| 01:45 |
Kacey |
because that would basically be has |
| 01:45 |
VanessaE |
LAD: that said, maptools Admin Pick does the same thing... |
| 01:45 |
Kacey |
hash* |
| 01:45 |
LAD |
and stugling on how to make them drop ruby fragments |
| 01:46 |
LAD |
yea i know |
| 01:46 |
LAD |
but look better :P |
| 01:49 |
PilzAdam |
sapier1, you know that you can edit an existing pull request and dont have to close it? |
| 01:49 |
Kacey |
i had an idea |
| 01:49 |
sapier1 |
no I don't is this possible after rebasing too? |
| 01:50 |
PilzAdam |
sure, you just push to the same branch the pull request was made |
| 01:50 |
PilzAdam |
(maybe you have to force update) |
| 01:50 |
PilzAdam |
but the pull request automatically updates when you push to the branch |
| 01:51 |
sapier1 |
I see :-) great |
| 01:52 |
sapier1 |
seems to work without inventory reference ... probably guiFormSpecMenu needs some cleanup :-) ... I still haven't succeeded in adding detached inventory callbacks from lua :-( |
| 01:52 |
sapier1 |
don't know whats wrong if it's doing wrong with detached inventorys from lua or a bug in my changes |
| 01:52 |
Exio |
does armor protect you from 'lava' damage? |
| 01:53 |
Exio |
or fall damage? |
| 01:54 |
PilzAdam |
sapier1, monologues about engine dev should be done in -dev |
| 01:55 |
sapier1 |
I was hoping to find someone using detached inventories ;-) |
| 01:56 |
FreeFull |
Exio: sdzen: Seems it might have been the morewater mod |
| 01:58 |
Kacey |
2-bit decoder to 4-bit decoder :) |
| 01:59 |
Exio |
FreeFull: good to know :P |
| 02:03 |
Kacey |
2-bit done... |
| 02:06 |
kaeza |
Kacey: SCREENIES?? |
| 02:06 |
kaeza |
you're driving me nuts |
| 02:06 |
kaeza |
:P |
| 02:06 |
Kacey |
not yet i am going to do something very awesome |
| 02:07 |
Kacey |
im going to inout the 2 bit decoder into a 4 bit decoder |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
you mean a 2-to-4 decoder, not 2-bit-to-4-bit ? |
| 02:08 |
Kacey |
no |
| 02:08 |
Kacey |
i am making a 2-bit decoder |
| 02:08 |
VanessaE |
(as in two bits in = 4 select lines out) |
| 02:08 |
VanessaE |
http://www.play-hookey.com/digital/combinational/images/demux000.gif |
| 02:08 |
VanessaE |
as in this? |
| 02:08 |
Kacey |
that inputs its output into a 4-bit decoder |
| 02:08 |
Kacey |
0 will not be an output but ooh well |
| 02:08 |
VanessaE |
2 bits of input can only give you 2 bits of output, or 4 select lines, or some blend thereof. |
| 02:09 |
Kacey |
here i will show you when i am done |
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| 02:13 |
Kacey |
crap it wont work |
| 02:14 |
Kacey |
:( |
| 02:15 |
VanessaE |
screenshot of your circuit? |
| 02:15 |
Kacey |
idk what im going to do now :( |
| 02:16 |
Kacey |
ok hang on |
| 02:17 |
Kacey |
http://ompldr.org/vZ3dybw/screenshot_219… |
| 02:17 |
Kacey |
why must it not work? |
| 02:17 |
kaeza |
Kacey: black screen? |
| 02:18 |
Kacey |
black scren? |
| 02:18 |
Kacey |
crap let me try again |
| 02:19 |
Kacey |
hmm cant take screens apparently |
| 02:21 |
Kacey |
VanessaE: you were right |
| 02:22 |
VanessaE |
of course I am. |
| 02:22 |
VanessaE |
actual wire-and-chips electronics is a hobby of mine :-) |
| 02:23 |
Kacey |
well i am off to make this 2-bit decoder into a seven segment display |
| 02:24 |
VanessaE |
have fun |
| 02:24 |
Kacey |
never |
| 02:25 |
Kacey |
aha i have an idea for this |
| 02:25 |
Kacey |
4 more microcontrollers needed for it and an extra lever but who cares? |
| 02:27 |
Kacey |
hah its gonna work :-d |
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| 02:28 |
PilzAdam |
going to sleep now; bye |
| 02:28 |
Kacey |
bye |
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| 02:30 |
Exio |
wtf, tin duplicated itself when smelting it |
| 02:30 |
Kacey |
tehe free tin lol |
| 02:32 |
Kacey |
oops made it a little commplicated |
| 02:33 |
Kacey |
ooh well |
| 02:36 |
* Kacey |
wants to learn how to make a ripple counter |
| 02:39 |
Kacey |
is there such thing as a 1-bit decoder? |
| 02:39 |
sapier1 |
1-bit? |
| 02:39 |
sapier1 |
bool? |
| 02:40 |
Kacey |
idk |
| 02:40 |
kaeza |
hmm, who is this guy? http://minetest.net/forum/search.php?action=show_user_posts&user_id=3933 |
| 02:40 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: Posts by tao of badass1 (Page 1) - Minetest Forums |
| 02:40 |
kaeza |
he just keeps saying "thank you" everywhere |
| 02:40 |
kaeza |
for no reason at all |
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| 02:40 |
Exio |
thanks you |
| 02:41 |
hmmmm |
he's very thankful |
| 02:41 |
Exio |
nah, no idea really |
| 02:41 |
sapier1 |
saying thank you is never bad ;-) |
| 02:41 |
hmmmm |
well in this case it is |
| 02:41 |
hmmmm |
some forum spam bots have this thing where they'd post some innoccous posts first and wait a little while after registering |
| 02:42 |
sapier1 |
i thought same thing |
| 02:42 |
hmmmm |
i've actually seen this thing before |
| 02:42 |
hmmmm |
95% sure this guy is a spambot, but i'd wait before i ban him if i were you |
| 02:43 |
VanessaE |
seems legit :) |
| 02:44 |
kaeza |
his second post may be considered legit |
| 02:44 |
kaeza |
but the others are just nonsense |
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| 02:47 |
kaeza |
aaaaaand another innocuous post |
| 02:48 |
mrtux |
Is it possible to make a world in minetest without using a GUI? |
| 02:48 |
iqualfragile1 |
aaand ban |
| 02:48 |
iqualfragile1 |
mrtux: shure |
| 02:48 |
mrtux |
okay |
| 02:48 |
iqualfragile1 |
just use bin/minetestserver |
| 02:49 |
mrtux |
ah okay |
| 02:49 |
mrtux |
thanks |
| 02:49 |
* mrtux |
hasn't played minetest in a while |
| 02:49 |
VanessaE |
seems to me you only need to run the server and give the world a new seed in the appropriate file |
| 02:55 |
mrtux |
yeah |
| 02:55 |
mrtux |
I'm starting to play minetest more often now |
| 02:55 |
mrtux |
it's running a bit better on my POS computer |
| 03:02 |
Kacey |
cornernote's stuff is still up |
| 03:11 |
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| 03:19 |
mrtux |
Is it possible to make an airplane mod for minetest? |
| 03:20 |
VanessaE |
sure, there's already the UFO mod |
| 03:20 |
kaeza |
mrtux: yes |
| 03:20 |
kaeza |
ninja'd |
| 03:21 |
VanessaE |
ninja'd again :D |
| 03:21 |
kaeza |
:) |
| 03:21 |
mrtux |
ah ok |
| 03:21 |
mrtux |
lul |
| 03:21 |
mrtux |
I could mod it a bit |
| 03:21 |
mrtux |
nodeboxes |
| 03:21 |
mrtux |
etc |
| 03:21 |
VanessaE |
models. |
| 03:21 |
mrtux |
Good idea! |
| 03:21 |
VanessaE |
we use 3d models now for stuff like that :-) |
| 03:22 |
mrtux |
Are there any free software programs i can use to make nodeboxes/3d models for minetest? |
| 03:22 |
VanessaE |
blender I suppose |
| 03:22 |
mrtux |
ah |
| 03:22 |
mrtux |
I'm sure you can do it in AutoCAD |
| 03:22 |
mrtux |
but |
| 03:22 |
VanessaE |
you need to be able to export to .x format |
| 03:22 |
mrtux |
It's not free |
| 03:22 |
mrtux |
ah |
| 03:23 |
mrtux |
kaeza: your computer mod is going on my server :P |
| 03:23 |
sapier1 |
you can do it in blender too ;-) |
| 03:23 |
kaeza |
mrtux: +1 |
| 03:23 |
mrtux |
ah okay |
| 03:23 |
sapier1 |
oops already mentioned by vanessae sorry |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 03:23 |
* mrtux |
will install blender and hope if his computer can take it |
| 03:24 |
VanessaE |
sapier1: so, how long until you start importing OpenArena models for your MOBF modpack? :-) |
| 03:24 |
RealBadAngel |
lol, using AutoCAD to design nodeboxes would be like tryin to kill a fly with a nuke ;) |
| 03:24 |
sapier1 |
hmmm ... good idea :) |
| 03:24 |
kaeza |
mrtux: blender is too slow for work (or too bloated), try this: http://anim8or.com/main/index.html |
| 03:24 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: Anim8or, free 3d animation software |
| 03:25 |
mrtux |
okay |
| 03:25 |
mrtux |
thanks |
| 03:25 |
kaeza |
you'll still need blender to export it to .x though |
| 03:25 |
mrtux |
Is there source code? |
| 03:25 |
mrtux |
I'm not going to use it if I can't have the source :P |
| 03:26 |
kaeza |
Anim8or is not open source |
| 03:26 |
kaeza |
it's freeware |
| 03:26 |
* mrtux |
will not use |
| 03:27 |
mrtux |
I'm choosing free and open source software mainly because I'm switching to GNU/Linux sometime soon |
| 03:27 |
kaeza |
blender then :) |
| 03:28 |
mrtux |
yeah |
| 03:34 |
kaeza |
LOL: http://cheezburger.com/6934251008 |
| 03:34 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: GTFO 2012 - Cheezburger |
| 03:35 |
mauvebic |
im guessing you fixed the spigot textures? :P |
| 03:36 |
VanessaE |
fixed? |
| 03:36 |
VanessaE |
I didn't know they were b0rk3d :-) |
| 03:36 |
* Kacey |
eats a cookie nom nom nom |
| 03:36 |
VanessaE |
I fixed the models ages ago |
| 03:36 |
* VanessaE |
seels Kacey's cookies |
| 03:36 |
VanessaE |
steals even. |
| 03:37 |
Kacey |
O.o no. |
| 03:37 |
mauvebic |
http://www.zimg.eu/i/2705393629 |
| 03:37 |
VanessaE |
mine. *nom* |
| 03:37 |
* Kacey |
begins biting VanessaE |
| 03:37 |
mauvebic |
whats the texture order? |
| 03:37 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: well shit - I forgot about that |
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| 03:37 |
mauvebic |
no biggie i can fix from here |
| 03:37 |
VanessaE |
+Y -Y -X +X -Z +Z I think |
| 03:38 |
VanessaE |
oops, other way 'round |
| 03:38 |
VanessaE |
+Y, -Y, +X, -X, +Z, -Z |
| 03:38 |
* Kacey |
is still biting VanessaE |
| 03:38 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1416 |
| 03:38 |
mauvebic |
its spigot_sides,pipe_end,spigot_sides,pipe_end,spigot_sides,sigpot_sized |
| 03:38 |
* VanessaE |
shoves kacey aside |
| 03:39 |
VanessaE |
yeah that's why |
| 03:39 |
VanessaE |
I forgot to turn them around when I changed the default orientation of the spigot |
| 03:39 |
* Kacey |
stares at VanessaE for a little |
| 03:39 |
Kacey |
O.o |
| 03:39 |
mauvebic |
theres should only be 1 pipe_end? |
| 03:39 |
kaeza |
VanessaE used Supersonic. Kacey bites himself in the confusion |
| 03:39 |
* Kacey |
walks off |
| 03:39 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: one sec |
| 03:39 |
Kacey |
i need more cookies |
| 03:39 |
VanessaE |
now you force me to look at my sources :-) |
| 03:40 |
VanessaE |
yep I did that wrong |
| 03:40 |
VanessaE |
lemme fix it and push a quick update |
| 03:41 |
mauvebic |
i did: |
| 03:41 |
VanessaE |
tiles = { |
| 03:41 |
VanessaE |
"pipeworks_spigot_sides.png", |
| 03:41 |
VanessaE |
"pipeworks_pipe_end_empty.png", |
| 03:41 |
VanessaE |
"pipeworks_spigot_sides.png", |
| 03:41 |
VanessaE |
"pipeworks_spigot_sides.png", |
| 03:41 |
VanessaE |
"pipeworks_pipe_end_empty.png", |
| 03:41 |
VanessaE |
"pipeworks_spigot_sides.png" |
| 03:41 |
VanessaE |
}, |
| 03:41 |
mauvebic |
"pipeworks_spigot_sides.png", |
| 03:41 |
mauvebic |
"pipeworks_pipe_end_empty.png", |
| 03:41 |
mauvebic |
"pipeworks_spigot_sides.png", |
| 03:41 |
VanessaE |
that's the correct order. |
| 03:42 |
kaeza|jEdit |
FLOOOOOOOOOD |
| 03:42 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 03:42 |
kaeza|jEdit |
:P |
| 03:42 |
sapier1 |
get into emergency rescue boats immedeatly |
| 03:42 |
mauvebic |
well the last pipe_end is for the side connecting to another pipe? |
| 03:42 |
kaeza|jEdit |
not in PilzAdam's, these boats are buggy as hell :P |
| 03:43 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 03:43 |
sapier1 |
ok then we have to swim |
| 03:43 |
VanessaE |
there, fix pushed. |
| 03:43 |
* OldCoder |
is resting now |
| 03:43 |
* Kacey |
returns with cookies |
| 03:44 |
* VanessaE |
steals kacey's cookies |
| 03:44 |
VanessaE |
*nom nom nom* |
| 03:44 |
* noone |
cares |
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kaeza|jEdit |
lol J/K |
| 03:44 |
kaeza|jEdit |
GIVE ME A COOKIE! |
| 03:44 |
* VanessaE |
gives kaeza|jEdit some cookies |
| 03:44 |
mauvebic |
its weird how the flow reroutes itself when you cut some pipes lol |
| 03:44 |
* Kacey |
plays thunderbolt on VanessaE |
| 03:44 |
* VanessaE |
distributes the rest evenly to others in channel |
| 03:45 |
* Kacey |
finds his hidden cookie |
| 03:45 |
Kacey |
kept it for a reason |
| 03:45 |
* kaeza|jEdit |
grabs the cookie nom nom |
| 03:45 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: can you put your fork on github and pull-request it when you're ready? it'll be easier for me to merge your changes then :-) |
| 03:45 |
* Kacey |
begins screaming |
| 03:46 |
* VanessaE |
gives kacey a cookie |
| 03:46 |
VanessaE |
:D |
| 03:46 |
* Kacey |
eats the cookie quietly |
| 03:46 |
Kacey |
nom nom nom |
| 03:46 |
kaeza|jEdit |
*** A website gives Chromium a cookie |
| 03:46 |
kaeza|jEdit |
:P |
| 03:47 |
* Kacey |
finishes the cookie |
| 03:47 |
* Kacey |
sits quietly staring at everyone |
| 03:47 |
mauvebic |
Have you considered splitting vacuum into a seperate or addon mod? |
| 03:47 |
Kacey |
8| |
| 03:48 |
VanessaE |
actually I thought about it briefly, but didn't see a reason to do so really |
| 03:48 |
Kacey |
afk i have to go make POPCORN |
| 03:48 |
mauvebic |
i put all 4 scripts together to work on it easier, but i only copied the pipe related stuff |
| 03:48 |
* VanessaE |
secretly hides all of kacey's popcorn |
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mauvebic |
i couldnt get the pump to works yet |
| 03:51 |
mauvebic |
the spigot is like outlet but with one connecting side so thatll be done tonight |
| 03:53 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/rubber_trees.png |
| 03:53 |
RealBadAngel |
new technic rubber trees |
| 03:55 |
VanessaE |
nice |
| 03:55 |
VanessaE |
but why the jungletree texture? |
| 03:55 |
VanessaE |
oh wait, that's not :-) |
| 03:55 |
Kacey |
and why so dense? |
| 03:56 |
kaeza |
because it's a Kacey tree |
| 03:56 |
kaeza |
:P |
| 03:56 |
Kacey |
im not dense |
| 03:56 |
Kacey |
im the density of water |
| 03:58 |
* Kacey |
is enjoying the popcorn |
| 04:00 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: I'm too lazy to learn L-systems. Code a proper jungle tree like the ones in bas080's mod :-) |
| 04:00 |
VanessaE |
and conifers while you're at it |
| 04:02 |
RealBadAngel |
ok, i will try |
| 04:03 |
RealBadAngel |
rubber tree update is already merged to technic, together with some fixes |
| 04:11 |
* Kacey |
wants more popcorn |
| 04:12 |
Kacey |
^.^ |
| 04:13 |
sdzen|tablet |
nice tree |
| 04:14 |
sdzen|tablet |
I already made something like those jungle trees but I lost the variables I used |
| 04:15 |
sdzen|tablet |
I know it looks nice with the angle set to 1 though |
| 04:17 |
kaeza |
anyone knows why recipes show up in craft guide but you cannot craft the items? |
| 04:18 |
mauvebic |
spigots are go :-) |
| 04:19 |
kaeza |
I try to make a glowglass, but the recipe doesn't work |
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| 04:20 |
kaeza |
it says "-!- Server: no recipe for" |
| 04:20 |
kaeza |
but the recipe shows up in craft guide |
| 04:20 |
Exio |
craft guide? |
| 04:21 |
kaeza |
Unified Inventory or stand-alone mod |
| 04:21 |
Exio |
does it work with inventory_plus? |
| 04:21 |
Exio |
anyway, going to sleep, i will check later |
| 04:22 |
kaeza |
Exio: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2334 |
| 04:22 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: [Mod] Craft Guide [craft_guide] - ingame craftrecipe viewer (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
| 04:22 |
kaeza |
oh sorry |
| 04:22 |
kaeza |
good night |
| 04:22 |
Kacey |
night |
| 04:24 |
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| 04:28 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: um, can you explain this? |
| 04:28 |
VanessaE |
screenshots coming in a sec... |
| 04:29 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: why does THIS: |
| 04:29 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2001012013%20-%2011:30:18%20PM.png |
| 04:29 |
VanessaE |
produce THIS: ? |
| 04:29 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_4186300686.png |
| 04:30 |
VanessaE |
the actual code: http://pastebin.com/UrveuThU |
| 04:30 |
VanessaE |
what am I doing wrong here? |
| 04:32 |
Kacey |
GANGNAM STYLE!!!!!! |
| 04:35 |
mauvebic |
what is this, gundam style i keep hearing about? |
| 04:35 |
VanessaE |
nfi. |
| 04:35 |
Kacey |
youtube it |
| 04:36 |
mauvebic |
hmm, looks retarded lol |
| 04:37 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 04:37 |
mauvebic |
oooh but i found a nice christmas light show to that tune |
| 04:38 |
Kacey |
how many outputs would a 3-bit decoder have? |
| 04:38 |
VanessaE |
8. |
| 04:38 |
VanessaE |
look up the 74LS138 |
| 04:38 |
VanessaE |
"3 to 8 decoder" |
| 04:38 |
Kacey |
alright obviously my math was wrong |
| 04:39 |
Kacey |
i noticed with the 2,4,8 and so on decoders were exponential |
| 04:39 |
VanessaE |
yup |
| 04:39 |
VanessaE |
a 4 bit input would decode to 16 outputs. |
| 04:39 |
Kacey |
but 3 is not |
| 04:40 |
VanessaE |
1 bit decodes to 2 outputs. 2 bits to 3. 3 to 8. 4 to 16, 5 to 32, and so on. |
| 04:40 |
Kacey |
2 bits to 4 |
| 04:40 |
mauvebic |
bit pow 2 |
| 04:40 |
VanessaE |
er yeah |
| 04:40 |
VanessaE |
2 to 4, sorry. typo |
| 04:41 |
Kacey |
bit^2 but not 3,5,so on |
| 04:41 |
Kacey |
or 1 |
| 04:41 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 04:41 |
Kacey |
only even bits i gues |
| 04:41 |
VanessaE |
2 ^ #bits |
| 04:41 |
VanessaE |
= # of outputs. |
| 04:41 |
mauvebic |
well for every position there are two possibilities so i (think) bit pow 2 |
| 04:41 |
VanessaE |
2 to the power of #bits. |
| 04:42 |
Kacey |
ooh i see i had it backwards |
| 04:42 |
VanessaE |
hence, 2^8 = 256. |
| 04:42 |
mauvebic |
yep that |
| 04:42 |
mauvebic |
lol |
| 04:42 |
Kacey |
i was thinking bit to the power of 2 |
| 04:42 |
mauvebic |
math teachers used to complain i solved my problems in reverse lol |
| 04:42 |
mauvebic |
still trips me up sometimes lol |
| 04:43 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 04:43 |
VanessaE |
dman it where did RealBadAngel wander off to?? |
| 04:43 |
VanessaE |
damn* |
| 04:43 |
Kacey |
my math teachers complain that i do the problems wrong but i still get the right answer |
| 04:44 |
mauvebic |
lol true that |
| 04:44 |
VanessaE |
they complain because eventually your wrong method will actually lead to the wrong answer :-) |
| 04:44 |
mauvebic |
half points |
| 04:44 |
mauvebic |
alot of bleeding exams with 99.5% lol |
| 04:44 |
Kacey |
my method changes per question |
| 04:44 |
mauvebic |
i have a knack for reverse engineering stuff |
| 04:45 |
Kacey |
i never miss besides for the ones that require suurface area of cones |
| 04:45 |
Kacey |
me too ^^ |
| 04:45 |
mauvebic |
when i was young my parents shit themselves when i took the TV apart |
| 04:45 |
mauvebic |
they were amazed when i put back together and it worked lol |
| 04:45 |
mauvebic |
i had no clue what i was doing either lol |
| 04:46 |
mauvebic |
i wouldn't fuck around with flat screens tho, chemicals |
| 04:46 |
Kacey |
lol i took the directv reciever apart without breaking the warranty |
| 04:46 |
* Kacey |
likes licking plasma |
| 04:46 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 04:46 |
mauvebic |
my cat does that |
| 04:46 |
mauvebic |
lol |
| 04:47 |
mauvebic |
"no kitty that aint helpin" |
| 04:47 |
Kacey |
your 3-eyed cat? |
| 04:47 |
mauvebic |
2' |
| 04:47 |
Kacey |
aaw the plasma is defective |
| 04:47 |
Kacey |
my dog can retrieve screwdrivers and other tools |
| 04:48 |
Kacey |
just not the ones i need lol |
| 04:49 |
mauvebic |
my cat you give her a brush, she brushes herself lol |
| 04:49 |
mauvebic |
when i go to bed she hops in when i do and tucks herself in the blanket lol |
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| 04:49 |
Kacey |
when i go to bed, my dog brings me a wrench |
| 04:49 |
mauvebic |
i dont want to know what for lol |
| 04:50 |
Kacey |
idk i get tools randomly from her |
| 04:50 |
Kacey |
i need a screwdriver, i get a socket wrench |
| 04:50 |
mauvebic |
make her into an NPC lol |
| 04:51 |
Kacey |
i need a hammer, i get a socket for a socket wrench |
| 04:51 |
VanessaE |
damn it where is he |
| 04:51 |
Kacey |
i need a socket wrench, i get a freaking hammer |
| 04:51 |
Kacey |
sooo ya i never have the right tool |
| 04:56 |
Kacey |
ok starting to program that 3-bit decoder |
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| 05:03 |
VanessaE |
oh, Is ee. Mapgen is griefing them. |
| 05:03 |
VanessaE |
*sigh* |
| 05:03 |
mauvebic |
what is the range of param1 (light)? |
| 05:03 |
VanessaE |
0-14 |
| 05:04 |
mauvebic |
weird im getting between 79 and 220 |
| 05:04 |
VanessaE |
did you set paramtype="light" also? |
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| 05:04 |
mauvebic |
its air |
| 05:04 |
VanessaE |
oh wait |
| 05:05 |
VanessaE |
hrm |
| 05:05 |
mauvebic |
im looking at the node above to find light levels |
| 05:05 |
VanessaE |
I'm wrong I think |
| 05:05 |
mauvebic |
did it change w/ shaders? |
| 05:06 |
mauvebic |
oh wait |
| 05:06 |
mauvebic |
there's get_node_light |
| 05:07 |
mauvebic |
much simpler lol |
| 05:07 |
Kacey |
VanessaE: can i build a decoder on your server? |
| 05:07 |
VanessaE |
sure I guess |
| 05:08 |
Kacey |
okie dokie |
| 05:09 |
Kacey |
oop dont have it cached lol |
| 05:13 |
Kacey |
you should put the irc mod on your server |
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| 05:16 |
Kacey |
VanessaE: did you disable command blocks? |
| 05:16 |
VanessaE |
ye |
| 05:16 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 05:16 |
Kacey |
ok |
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| 05:21 |
mauvebic |
hydro plants ported to aeroponics: http://www.zimg.eu/i/3439029841 |
| 05:21 |
VanessaE |
nice |
| 05:22 |
mauvebic |
i dont know if i should bring in the plants from farming/food or focus on making the ones i have into nodeboxes? |
| 05:23 |
Kacey |
bbl |
| 05:27 |
VanessaE |
keep 'em plantlike. |
| 05:28 |
VanessaE |
nodeboxes don't look too good with plants except if you wanna do minecraft-like grass |
| 05:29 |
mauvebic |
could be a PITA to texture too lol |
| 05:34 |
mauvebic |
i think ill pool all the plants together and make a fairly standard library of it |
| 05:36 |
VanessaE |
cool |
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| 05:45 |
Kacey |
back |
| 05:51 |
Kacey |
anyone on? |
| 05:51 |
kaeza |
b |
| 05:51 |
kaeza |
wb |
| 05:51 |
Kacey |
ty |
| 05:51 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 05:52 |
Kacey |
hello |
| 05:53 |
Kacey |
http://i48.tinypic.com/30adlbk.gif lol |
| 05:55 |
Kacey |
http://englishrussia.com/images/daily_03/6.jpg nice |
| 05:57 |
Kacey |
http://excellentpix.com/files/funzug/imgs/funnypics/onlyin_russia_29.jpg ok last one |
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Kacey |
ooh hai |
| 06:02 |
kaeza1 |
hai |
| 06:02 |
Kacey |
http://i48.tinypic.com/30adlbk.gif lol |
| 06:02 |
Kacey |
[22:55] <Kacey> http://englishrussia.com/images/daily_03/6.jpg nice |
| 06:02 |
Kacey |
[22:57] <Kacey> http://excellentpix.com/files/funzug/imgs/funnypics/onlyin_russia_29.jpg ok last one |
| 06:03 |
Kacey |
check those out |
| 06:03 |
Kacey |
http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/not_fdd3c5_2399081.jpg HAHA only in america |
| 06:05 |
kaeza |
cool... a 10yr old playing with a sniper rifle |
| 06:05 |
Kacey |
lol |
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mauvebic |
wow he's dressed like a fat black lady |
| 06:06 |
mauvebic |
(leopard print leggins lol) |
| 06:06 |
Kacey |
lol |
| 06:06 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 06:07 |
Kacey |
http://static.themetapicture.com/media/funny-soldiers-American-McDonalds-drive-through.jpg haha |
| 06:08 |
kaeza |
meh |
| 06:09 |
mauvebic |
you know what really scares me? |
| 06:09 |
mauvebic |
alot of soldiers show up in those fail compilation videos lol |
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Kacey |
http://pigjockey.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/fail-owned-insert-memory-card-sign-fail.jpg lol |
| 06:09 |
Kacey |
ya they r kinda bumbling |
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us_0gb |
Hello! |
| 06:09 |
Kacey |
hi |
| 06:11 |
mauvebic |
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ugandan%20Discussions |
| 06:11 |
moltenbot |
mauvebic's link: Urban Dictionary: Ugandan Discussions |
| 06:12 |
us_0gb |
"Moltenbot"? Is the IRC robot melting? |
| 06:12 |
Kacey |
idk |
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kaeza |
Kacey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m0kkUi52dw&feature=player_embedded |
| 06:13 |
moltenbot |
kaeza's link: GameStain - Year in games 2012 - YouTube |
| 06:13 |
Kacey |
http://failatfailing.com/upload/16921-29914/misspelled-bump-sign-fail.jpg |
| 06:13 |
mauvebic |
Three little maids from school are we |
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mauvebic |
Pert as a school-girl well can be |
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mauvebic |
Filled to the brim with girlish glee |
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mauvebic |
Three little maids from school |
| 06:19 |
Kacey |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=SUOgGFTpnxY |
| 06:19 |
moltenbot |
Kacey's link: Minecraft - Video Game Therapist - YouTube |
| 06:20 |
Kacey |
minetest will never end up like that |
| 06:20 |
us_0gb |
MineCRAFT? Traitor. |
| 06:20 |
Kacey |
no it is a funny video |
| 06:20 |
Kacey |
crafting addiction |
| 06:21 |
mauvebic |
i hate crafting lol |
| 06:21 |
Kacey |
me too lol |
| 06:21 |
mauvebic |
too many mods, nodes and crafts to remember lol |
| 06:21 |
us_0gb |
True. |
| 06:21 |
Kacey |
lol /giveme is soooooooooo much bette |
| 06:21 |
mauvebic |
if you have to lookem up in the crafting guide too then its really out of hand lol |
| 06:21 |
Kacey |
better* |
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us_0gb |
I play a fairly vanila game though, so it's easier. |
| 06:22 |
mauvebic |
my wife likes the market i added |
| 06:22 |
mauvebic |
dig random shit, sell it, buy what you need |
| 06:22 |
us_0gb |
Nice. |
| 06:23 |
Kacey |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmCvnWj0_hc |
| 06:23 |
moltenbot |
Kacey's link: Dick Figures - First Day of Cool (Ep #34) - YouTube |
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mrtux |
user mrtux:~/minetest/bin$ ./minetestserver --port 12300 |
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mrtux |
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'SerializationError' |
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mrtux |
what(): BanManager::load(): Couldn't open file |
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mrtux |
Aborted |
| 06:23 |
mrtux |
uh |
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kaeza |
hehe love Dick Figures |
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mauvebic |
king of the hill +1 |
| 06:25 |
kaeza |
Kacey: have a disturbing night :) http://www.mondomedia.com/videos/eyes-cold-lemonade-blurb-2/ |
| 06:25 |
mauvebic |
ok i have to port veggies bbl |
| 06:27 |
Kacey |
nothing disturbs me anymore so HA |
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kaeza |
*i lied* |
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us_0gb |
Are vegetables supposed to be disturbing? |
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us_0gb |
Oh, sorry. I spaced that one. |
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mauvebic |
poop, only 3 of the vegetables have 4 stages of growth |
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us_0gb |
What vegetables? Is this some sort of other game? |
| 06:29 |
kaeza |
us_0gb: http://www.mondomedia.com/videos/eyes-cold-lemonade-blurb-2/ |
| 06:30 |
mauvebic |
sokomine wanted me to adds plants from farming and superfarming but most of them have 2-3 stages |
| 06:31 |
Kacey |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0QQPTo8mXw have a very disturbing night |
| 06:32 |
moltenbot |
Kacey's link: hypno's lullaby - YouTube |
| 06:34 |
kaeza |
meh |
| 06:37 |
Kacey |
do you skip to the end of a video to check for a scary face? |
| 06:44 |
mauvebic |
high tech lol http://www.zimg.eu/i/2669438327 |
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us_0gb |
Wow, nice. |
| 06:45 |
mauvebic |
9 plants so far, i need to rewrite the plantlib to suit plants with < 4 stages |
| 06:45 |
us_0gb |
How do you get the hydro seeds to grow on those? |
| 06:46 |
mauvebic |
so long as the trays got water and theres light in the vicinity, it grows |
| 06:46 |
mauvebic |
light level > 11 |
| 06:47 |
us_0gb |
On the version I have, you need promix and growlamps. Is mine outdated or something? |
| 06:47 |
mauvebic |
i wrote it a long time ago yeah lol |
| 06:47 |
mauvebic |
i had to do quite a few searches of ompldr to find it too lol the drive housing the originals died lol |
| 06:48 |
mauvebic |
i still think my textures are crap but i can work on that |
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us_0gb |
That's not good. |
| 06:48 |
mauvebic |
7yr old hard drive that was root so many partitions/repartitions... its time came lol |
| 06:48 |
us_0gb |
I like them ,but I'm not picky with graphics, so take that as you will. |
| 06:49 |
us_0gb |
The textures, I mean. |
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mauvebic |
they dont need to be fancy, i just need to make them blend a little more with 32/64px textures |
| 06:49 |
mauvebic |
even the underlying trays use 32px textures lol |
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us_0gb |
Will you be keeping the 16 pixel images available? |
| 06:50 |
mauvebic |
not in the mod folder |
| 06:51 |
mauvebic |
otherwise they get loaded along with everything else |
| 06:51 |
Kacey |
well night all |
| 06:51 |
mauvebic |
im sure there are texture packs for taste too lol |
| 06:51 |
mauvebic |
*every taste |
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us_0gb |
True. Rabbi Bob has a seperate download available for different resolutions. You could do that if you wanted. |
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mauvebic |
16px gives me headaches, its too much of one color |
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us_0gb |
His other resolution downloads only include the textures themselves, so it doesn't involve redundancy. |
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us_0gb |
I see. |
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us_0gb |
Too bad then. Non-16 pixel looks odd along with all the 16 pixel images. |
| 06:55 |
mauvebic |
people can use whatever textures they want lol |
| 06:56 |
us_0gb |
Yeah, but only if they have a way to GET said textures. |
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us_0gb |
That's okay. I'll just use your old ones. |
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markveidemanis |
HI! |
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markveidemanis |
who knows about nodenames and giveme? |
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* VanessaE |
wanders off to bed |
| 08:56 |
VanessaE |
night all |
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kaeza |
night |
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mauvebic |
howdy |
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vibe-x |
gumo |
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kaeza |
hey all |
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kaeza |
I just discovered a bug/misfeature |
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kaeza |
IDK if it has been reported yet |
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Matrixiumn |
Hello |
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Matrixiumn |
What package do I install if I get "Could NOT find OpenGL (missing: OPENGL_gl_LIBRARY)" and yes I have tried "opengl" and "libopengl" and none of them existed (for me anyway) |
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kaeza |
hi Matrixiumn |
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kaeza |
gimme a sec |
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kaeza |
Matrixiumn: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/README.txt#L83 |
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moltenbot |
kaeza's link: minetest/README.txt at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub |
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kaeza |
see that link |
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kaeza |
I think opengl is libgl1-mesa-dev |
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Matrixiumn |
Thanks :) |
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kaeza |
yw |
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markveidemanis_ |
hiiiiiiii |
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kaeza |
hey mark |
| 10:47 |
markveidemanis_ |
my server is LIVE! |
| 10:48 |
kaeza |
nice! |
| 10:48 |
markveidemanis_ |
and i have a sky city |
| 10:48 |
markveidemanis_ |
where i copied and pasted peoples houses:D |
| 11:01 |
Matrixiumn |
I installed the libjpeg thing but: |
| 11:01 |
Matrixiumn |
Could NOT find JPEG (missing: JPEG_LIBRARY JPEG_INCLUDE_DIR) |
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kaeza |
hm? |
| 11:01 |
Matrixiumn |
During cmake |
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sapier |
you need to install libjpeg-dev |
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kaeza |
hello sapier |
| 11:02 |
sapier |
hello |
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markveidemanis |
hello |
| 11:06 |
TB|Vibe-X |
does someone know, what wield-image means? |
| 11:06 |
TB|Vibe-X |
in lua file in mod "locks" |
| 11:10 |
TB|Vibe-X |
ah alright, its the image that is used, while handling the item ;) |
| 11:13 |
Matrixiumn |
I installed bzip2 |
| 11:13 |
Matrixiumn |
But I still get |
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Matrixiumn |
Could NOT find JPEG (missing: JPEG_LIBRARY JPEG_INCLUDE_DIR) |
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TB|Vibe-X |
where do you get it? while starting minetest? |
| 11:15 |
TB|Vibe-X |
or want to compile yourself? |
| 11:15 |
TB|Vibe-X |
then you need the dev packages |
| 11:15 |
TB|Vibe-X |
on debian wiki : libjpeg12-dev package and dependencie are required when "missing: JPEG_LIBRARY JPEG_INCLUDE_DIR" |
| 11:16 |
TB|Vibe-X |
this is needed maybe for you, if you use ubuntu or debian |
| 11:17 |
Matrixiumn |
TB|Vibe-X: I'm compiling it on my Raspberry Pi to be used as a server and I get: E: Unable to locate package libjpeg12-dev |
| 11:17 |
TB|Vibe-X |
which distri you use? |
| 11:18 |
TB|Vibe-X |
and which version |
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Matrixiumn |
Raspbian (Basically Debian) |
| 11:18 |
TB|Vibe-X |
debian squeeze |
| 11:18 |
Matrixiumn |
Yes |
| 11:18 |
TB|Vibe-X |
or which ;) cat /etc/isue |
| 11:18 |
TB|Vibe-X |
kk |
| 11:18 |
TB|Vibe-X |
http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libjpeg&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all |
| 11:18 |
moltenbot |
TB|Vibe-X's link: Ubuntu -- Package Search Results -- libjpeg |
| 11:18 |
TB|Vibe-X |
ah sorry not ubuntu |
| 11:18 |
TB|Vibe-X |
mom please |
| 11:19 |
TB|Vibe-X |
maybe you test libjpeg62-dev |
| 11:19 |
TB|Vibe-X |
or libjpeg8-dev |
| 11:19 |
TB|Vibe-X |
the problem is, that i dont know which file you need to include while compiling |
| 11:23 |
Matrixiumn |
Error after error :( |
| 11:23 |
Matrixiumn |
Could NOT find BZip2 (missing: BZIP2_LIBRARIES BZIP2_INCLUDE_DIR) |
| 11:23 |
Matrixiumn |
TB|Vibe-X: ^^ |
| 11:24 |
TB|Vibe-X |
which file do ths error while compiling? |
| 11:24 |
TB|Vibe-X |
or what command do you use |
| 11:25 |
Matrixiumn |
piraspberrypi ~/minetest $ cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 |
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TB|Vibe-X |
kk |
| 11:26 |
TB|Vibe-X |
moment |
| 11:26 |
thexyz |
i doubt minetest client will work on rpi |
| 11:27 |
ruskie |
iirc the engine is available for it |
| 11:27 |
ruskie |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvbht9xa98w |
| 11:27 |
Matrixiumn |
thexyz: People have said the server works on it |
| 11:27 |
moltenbot |
ruskie's link: Sneak preview of Irrlicht 3D engine running on the Raspberry Pi - YouTube |
| 11:28 |
thexyz |
Matrixiumn: you should build with -DBUILD_CLIENT=0 then |
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TB|Vibe-X |
Matrixiumn, bzip2 ... you need the dev package |
| 11:28 |
TB|Vibe-X |
not the bzip2 ;) |
| 11:28 |
TB|Vibe-X |
for compiling you need the source and headr files which are in dev packages |
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OldCoder |
Good morning |
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TB|Vibe-X |
hi |
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markveidemanis |
good <almost afternoon> |
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kaeza |
morning OldCoder |
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OldCoder |
kaeza, hi |
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TB|Vibe-X |
woooow compiling successfully <3 |
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TB|Vibe-X |
without merge player error shit |
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sapier |
does anyone know a way to identify a inventory by its reference? |
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kaeza |
what do you mean? |
| 11:59 |
sapier |
detached inventorys have callbacks, those callbacks get a invref |
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sapier |
but invref given to callbacks ain't same as returned on create_detached_inventory |
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kaeza |
right |
| 12:00 |
sapier |
why? |
| 12:00 |
kaeza |
dunno |
| 12:01 |
sapier |
how to know which inventory callback is called for? |
| 12:13 |
kaeza |
maybe this question is stupid, but is it possible to implement shiny, mirror-like surfaces using shaders? they need not be truly reflective |
| 12:15 |
Jeija |
I was trying that, and it should be possible somehow using shaders. I had some strange blueish reflection-stripes in the end, but I couldn't have realistic water refraction. However I managed to code water waves: https://github.com/Jeija/minetest/tree/shader_playground |
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moltenbot |
Jeija's link: Jeija/minetest at shader_playground ? GitHub |
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Obiewan1111 |
Anyone know how to make Smooth stone? |
| 12:21 |
Obiewan1111 |
And hey! |
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kaeza |
Jeija: nice! can you show some screenshots? |
| 12:22 |
kaeza |
Obiewan1111: cook cobblestone in a furnace |
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Jeija |
I should have something better than screenshots, let me search a video... |
| 12:24 |
Jeija |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUzyw1a7Ghs there you go |
| 12:24 |
moltenbot |
Jeija's link: Minetest Water Shaders - Proof of Concept - YouTube |
| 12:24 |
Obiewan1111 |
That is awesome! |
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kaeza |
Jeija: that's cool |
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jojoa1997 |
hello yall |
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kaeza |
hey jojoa1997 |
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jojoa1997 |
everyone come join minetest.org 30010 |
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jojoa1997 |
kaeza:hi |
| 12:31 |
kaeza |
jojoa1997: I tested it. It's a pretty good world. |
| 12:32 |
jojoa1997 |
yeah |
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jojoa1997 |
only problem is the craft guide doesnt want to work |
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TB|Vibe-X |
Jeija, whater shaders means waves? |
| 12:33 |
TB|Vibe-X |
or is it some graphical thing? |
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kaeza |
jojoa1997: what do you mean? |
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TB|Vibe-X |
ah sorry wrong grammer, with shader waves are possible :D |
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kaeza |
grammar* :P |
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jojoa1997 |
what is the recipe for craft guide |
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jojoa1997 |
ss |
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jojoa1997 |
ss |
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jojoa1997 |
s |
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* kaeza |
is a grammar nazi |
| 12:34 |
jojoa1997 |
s=stick right |
| 12:34 |
kaeza |
yeah |
| 12:35 |
kaeza |
are you sure it's installed? I also tried crafting it in 30004 with no results |
| 12:35 |
jojoa1997 |
maybe it is not |
| 12:35 |
TB|Vibe-X |
kaeza, as german like me, you write some words in another way |
| 12:35 |
TB|Vibe-X |
when you think about german words and writing english :D |
| 12:36 |
* TB|Vibe-X |
reboots ... |
| 12:36 |
nyuszika7h |
hi, which is the official repo? minetest/minetest or celeron55/minetest? |
| 12:36 |
kaeza |
celeron55 |
| 12:36 |
nyuszika7h |
ok |
| 12:39 |
kaeza |
TB|Vibe-X: J/K |
| 12:39 |
* kaeza |
is not german |
| 12:40 |
Jeija |
still working on particles: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB_wJbUaiJU |
| 12:40 |
moltenbot |
Jeija's link: Particles for minetest - 4th version - YouTube |
| 12:40 |
TB|Vibe-X |
but me ;) |
| 12:41 |
TB|Vibe-X |
i just told, that when you think german, and writing english, sometimes some words are written wrongly |
| 12:41 |
OldCoder |
NEWS: I am adding craft_guide, updating mesecons, animals go to more worlds. Any other changes? Speak now. |
| 12:42 |
OldCoder |
NEWS I am shutting down worlds for backups |
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OldCoder |
and updates |
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kaeza |
OldCoder: minor fixes to IRC |
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OldCoder |
kaeza, I will update now, then |
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OldCoder |
kaeza, Is git updated? |
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Dopium |
hello |
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kaeza |
OldCoder: yes |
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kaeza |
Dopium: hey |
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TB|Vibe-X |
a question for lua coders, is it possible in minetest to use functions from other mods? modA e.g. has func_a can modB use func_a ? |
| 12:56 |
TB|Vibe-X |
or are they seperated |
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kaeza |
yes |
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thexyz |
if that function is not local, then yes |
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jojoa1997 |
for the builtin_items mod this sets the dissapear to 0 right remove_items=0 |
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TB|Vibe-X |
ahh okay thank you :) |
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kaeza |
but you must either depend on the mod or develop a clever way to detect it |
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TB|Vibe-X |
yeah of course ;) |
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kaeza |
and fail gracefully if it's not installed |
| 12:57 |
TB|Vibe-X |
dependencies are used |
| 12:57 |
sapier |
what do you think about this gui for a npc trader? http://ompldr.org/vZ3d4ZA |
| 12:57 |
TB|Vibe-X |
i was happy about reading, that minecraft "Technic" mod is ported to minetest <3 |
| 12:57 |
kaeza |
sapier: :/ |
| 12:57 |
TB|Vibe-X |
or was it stolen from minetest :D |
| 12:57 |
sapier |
@kaeza not good? |
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kaeza |
too convoluted IMHO |
| 12:58 |
sapier |
I'm not very talented in creating guis |
| 12:58 |
kaeza |
you should add a label between the "Price/Selection/etc" row and the player inv |
| 12:58 |
kaeza |
to separate it a bit |
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sapier |
proably reducing upper inv to 2 lines and moving "selection ... takeaway" up? |
| 12:59 |
sapier |
maybe a trader selling 16 goods is fine enough |
| 12:59 |
kaeza |
that could be another option |
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TB|Vibe-X |
just 1 more stupd question :/ is minetest able to create multiworld, or is there any plugin you know about? |
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thexyz |
wtf is multiworld? |
| 13:01 |
TB|Vibe-X |
muliple worlds |
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TB|Vibe-X |
1 default, and a second e.g. |
| 13:01 |
TB|Vibe-X |
or third |
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FreeFull |
t |
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thexyz |
umm.. have you ever launched minetest? |
| 13:03 |
thexyz |
yes, you can choose which world to play when starting the game |
| 13:05 |
TB|Vibe-X |
sorry about this missunderstanding ;) i meant, if 1 server can manage more than 1 world, and is there a possibility to switch as player between them |
| 13:05 |
TB|Vibe-X |
like in minecraft -> default, nether, end_world |
| 13:05 |
jojoa1997 |
if LAD comes on can someone tell me |
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markveidemanis |
what is +v |
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markveidemanis |
or voice |
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sapier |
is this gui better? http://ompldr.org/vZ3d4aw |
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thexyz |
TB|Vibe-X: no |
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kaeza |
anyone knows what does this mean? |
| 13:22 |
kaeza |
minetest/src/tile.cpp:503: virtual irr::u32 TextureSource::getTextureId(const string&): Assertion 'result.key == name' failed. |
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TB|Vibe-X |
thexyz, will it ? or is such a feature not interesting enough? i will have a look in the git :) |
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kaeza |
TB|Vibe-X: I believe RealBadAngel was working on something similar |
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TB|Vibe-X |
ahh okay, i will ask his/her (i think female? :D) |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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TB|Vibe-X |
hi pilz |
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TB|Vibe-X |
which mod @ john_minetest |
| 13:45 |
TB|Vibe-X |
yeah, but there are some mods who let npcs create |
| 13:45 |
TB|Vibe-X |
those should make trading possible |
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sapier |
@john_minetest there is a mod I just completed trader support for mobf, but can't do an official release until git pull is done |
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markveidemanis |
hi |
| 13:55 |
markveidemanis |
!up minetest.org 30001 |
| 13:55 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server minetest.org:30001 DOWN |
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markveidemanis |
30010 |
| 13:55 |
markveidemanis |
dammit |
| 13:57 |
markveidemanis |
!up minetest.org 30010 |
| 13:57 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server minetest.org:30010 DOWN |
| 13:59 |
ruskie |
[13:42:12] @<OldCoder> NEWS I am shutting down worlds for backups and updates |
| 13:59 |
ruskie |
that was a bit over an hour ago |
| 13:59 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
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OldCoder |
ruskie, I am making changes |
| 13:59 |
OldCoder |
Good stuff |
| 13:59 |
OldCoder |
<-- working hard for your happiness |
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markveidemanis |
hi |
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ruskie |
simply forwarding the message to markveidemanis that is looking for minetest.org servers |
| 13:59 |
ruskie |
hehe |
| 14:00 |
markveidemanis |
? |
| 14:00 |
OldCoder |
markveidemanis, Patience is a virtue |
| 14:00 |
markveidemanis |
ok |
| 14:00 |
markveidemanis |
... |
| 14:00 |
OldCoder |
markveidemanis, I am developing a server framework |
| 14:00 |
OldCoder |
Every update is a step forward |
| 14:00 |
markveidemanis |
ok |
| 14:01 |
OldCoder |
It ain't easy keeping 19 worlds working and up to date with new stuff |
| 14:01 |
OldCoder |
For example right now there is an interesting conflict between animals and curl |
| 14:02 |
OldCoder |
Multiple animals have the sound file random_1.ogg |
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sapier |
@OldCoder conflict? |
| 14:02 |
OldCoder |
That is a non-no |
| 14:02 |
OldCoder |
That is a no-no |
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OldCoder |
Media files need to have unique names |
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sapier |
yes I've already fixed this |
| 14:02 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
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OldCoder |
But not in the old version... I understand |
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* OldCoder |
considers possible workarounds |
| 14:03 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
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sapier |
mobf is becoming 2.0 soon I'm not quite sure if it's worth to fix it for 1.4 |
| 14:03 |
OldCoder |
I know |
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OldCoder |
Is there a patch I can backport? |
| 14:03 |
OldCoder |
I need to get to RL work |
| 14:03 |
sapier |
not quite have been to many places to fix |
| 14:03 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
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markveidemanis |
can ONE person go on markmt.strangled.net to test, just in and log out |
| 14:03 |
OldCoder |
t y |
| 14:04 |
markveidemanis |
NVM works |
| 14:04 |
OldCoder |
sapier, If I simply delete random_1.ogg |
| 14:04 |
OldCoder |
what will happen? |
| 14:05 |
sapier |
you most likely get an error message at startup |
| 14:05 |
sapier |
but it'll continue |
| 14:05 |
OldCoder |
will the mod still work? |
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sapier |
i think so |
| 14:05 |
OldCoder |
That is the best fix then |
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sapier |
@markveidemanis I'm joining ;-) |
| 14:07 |
sapier |
no I'm not minetest just crashed |
| 14:09 |
OldCoder |
Trying to restart worlds; new problem |
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sapier |
related to mobf? |
| 14:11 |
OldCoder |
No |
| 14:11 |
OldCoder |
One moment |
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OldCoder |
minetest/games/octuteam_game/mods/bobblocks/init.lua: |
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OldCoder |
...netest/games/octuteam_game/mods/bobblocks/blocks.lua:678: |
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OldCoder |
attempt to call method 'register_on_signal_on' (a nil value) |
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OldCoder |
stack traceback: |
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OldCoder |
...netest/games/octuteam_game/mods/bobblocks/blocks.lua:678: |
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OldCoder |
in main chunk |
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OldCoder |
[C]: in function 'dofile' |
| 14:12 |
OldCoder |
...minetest/games/octuteam_game/mods/bobblocks/init.lua:2: in main chunk |
| 14:12 |
OldCoder |
markveidemanis, is this your doing? |
| 14:12 |
OldCoder |
The new blocks mod? |
| 14:12 |
markveidemanis |
? |
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* OldCoder |
greps |
| 14:13 |
markveidemanis |
bobblocks needs mesecons |
| 14:13 |
OldCoder |
which I have just updated... |
| 14:13 |
OldCoder |
Jeija said it would break crossings |
| 14:13 |
OldCoder |
But should not break other things |
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OldCoder |
I will downgrade mesecons |
| 14:13 |
markveidemanis |
ok |
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OldCoder |
markveidemanis, He said one line patch would fix incompatibility |
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OldCoder |
Any idea what that patch might be? |
| 14:15 |
markveidemanis |
no |
| 14:15 |
OldCoder |
k ty |
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markveidemanis |
im terrible at Lua |
| 14:15 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 14:18 |
OldCoder |
|
| 14:18 |
OldCoder |
NEWS worlds restarted. Please test them! |
| 14:18 |
markveidemanis |
are servers up? |
| 14:18 |
OldCoder |
markveidemanis, ^ |
| 14:18 |
markveidemanis |
!up minetest.org 30010 |
| 14:18 |
moltenbot |
Minetest server minetest.org:30010 UP |
| 14:18 |
OldCoder |
See what is broken now please |
| 14:18 |
markveidemanis |
AYYA |
| 14:19 |
markveidemanis |
YAY |
| 14:19 |
OldCoder |
NEWS Mesecons update must wait until I can talk to Jeija |
| 14:19 |
OldCoder |
It breaks all my worlds |
| 14:19 |
* OldCoder |
is on an errand |
| 14:19 |
OldCoder |
I will be here most of the day though |
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OldCoder |
marktraceur, Hi! |
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PilzAdam |
kaeza, do you use git? |
| 14:32 |
kaeza |
yes |
| 14:32 |
PilzAdam |
git log -1 |
| 14:32 |
kaeza |
k |
| 14:32 |
PilzAdam |
will show you the last commit |
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PilzAdam |
(notice: its -[one] not l) |
| 14:32 |
kaeza |
Sun Dec 23 17:16:46 2012 +0200 |
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kaeza |
commit 0f1d2c127cd58aa9b1afa22769dcdaf8f71d05e6 |
| 14:33 |
kaeza |
I think it's a bit outdated... |
| 14:33 |
PilzAdam |
thats 5 commits behind current HEAD |
| 14:33 |
PilzAdam |
but this is the commit that should the attachment bug |
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Minetest-tan |
GIT: RealBadAngel (RealBadAngel) commited to celeron55/minetest: Bugfixes to item_image formspec method 36f03a7f4a 2013-01-02T06:29:08-08:00 |
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iqualfragile |
sapier: maybee add mumies (mumien) |
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iqualfragile |
yeah, maybee even some litle pyramids |
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sapier |
@iqualfragile good idea but top priority is getting that pull into core |
| 15:10 |
iqualfragile |
"that pull"? |
| 15:12 |
ruskie |
iqualfragile, so wanted to discuss something about libertree or? |
| 15:13 |
iqualfragile |
nope, i just saw you over there and thougt: where do you know that name from… |
| 15:13 |
ruskie |
hehe |
| 15:13 |
ruskie |
#libertree btw ;) |
| 15:16 |
sapier |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/383 that one and here's a link what you can do with it http://ompldr.org/vZ3d4aw |
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kaeza |
sapier: +1 |
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kaeza |
it's better organized that way |
| 15:17 |
kaeza |
or is it not? |
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sapier |
@kaeza thanks it's based on your suggestions |
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kaeza |
oh stop it you! *blushes* |
| 15:18 |
sapier |
by the way that inventory was shown by rightclicking the mob behind |
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Zeg9 |
sapier as I said, +10 |
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kaeza |
yeah I see |
| 15:18 |
kaeza |
excellent job |
| 15:19 |
sapier |
still it's useless without that pull ;-| |
| 15:19 |
kaeza |
now to wait for someone to merge that in |
| 15:19 |
kaeza |
hehe |
| 15:19 |
Zeg9 |
I hope it will be merged faster than my pull request... lol |
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sapier |
does anyone what would be best to interact with transport carts? .. punching accelerates, rightclick takes ... I've got now button left to open inventory :) |
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revolution |
in habitants of Gameboom, allow us to inform you that the Bad_Command's (aka BC) old place was transformed into a lovely public park with a recreational center underneath. Here are some pictures: http://imgur.com/a/EQ6Ky |
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moltenbot |
revolution's link: minetest revolution - Imgur |
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revolution |
this is our first public service announcement. good bye |
| 15:44 |
OldCoder |
Hmm? |
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OldCoder |
What was that about? |
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sapier |
hmm probably we need a new channel "minetest-announcements" |
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iqualfragile |
or #minetest-de |
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OldCoder |
I'd like a copy of that map |
| 15:49 |
sapier |
:-) that was idea behind ;-) |
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thexyz |
we already have 5 channels |
| 15:52 |
thexyz |
#minetest, #minetest-delta, #minetest-dev, #minetest-mods, #minetest-doc |
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sapier |
hmm didn't even know about mods and doc channels :-) |
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sapier |
it wasn't a real suggestion but a joke ... not a good one obviously |
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PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, there is a tab at the end of this line: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/src/guiFormSpecMenu.cpp#L820 |
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moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: minetest/src/guiFormSpecMenu.cpp at master ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub |
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thexyz |
the fact that overviewer renders http://overviewer.org/~agrif/oilblog/old.png in ~1.5s makes me slightly depressed |
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PilzAdam |
in wich language is it written? |
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thexyz |
PilzAdam: python & C |
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iqualfragile |
thexyz: pypy is strange, it requires a libary wich is only avivable on the newest ubuntu, so im having a litle bit of problems on my debian stable… |
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iqualfragile |
thexyz: maybee you could try using the gpu for rendering the maps, that would render the whole map in ~1/5 sec |
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thexyz |
ha, gpu + python |
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Zeg9 |
Yeah, pyopengl |
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Zeg9 |
;) |
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Exio |
even java is faster than that |
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Zeg9 |
thexyz, is your script faster with pypy or doesn't it change anything? |
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jojoa1997 |
how do i revoke interact from someone |
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PilzAdam |
/revoke playername interact |
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Zeg9 |
thexyz, can your script run somehow with pypy ? :p |
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jojoa1997 |
not working |
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iqualfragile |
Zeg9: try it |
| 16:19 |
jojoa1997 |
nvm |
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thexyz |
Zeg9: dunno, never tried |
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Zeg9 |
I'll try then - /me must figure out how to install pil for pypy |
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rubenwardy |
hi all |
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PilzAdam |
hey rubenwardy |
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Mika_R |
ERROR[main] : WARNING: updatelistener: invalid name |
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Mika_R |
ERROR[main] : WARNING: before createPlayingSound: invalid name |
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Mika_R |
anyone know what is the reason to those kind of errors and how to fix? |
| 16:25 |
Mika_R |
Oldcoder ^ |
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iqualfragile |
Mika_R: what did you do before that happened? |
| 16:26 |
Mika_R |
walk |
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iqualfragile |
did you install any new mods recently? |
| 16:26 |
Mika_R |
no, only have the ones the server has |
| 16:28 |
Mika_R |
at least 21 Error lines when i look in F10, 13 updatelistener errors and 8 before createPlayingSound |
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OldCoder |
R |
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OldCoder |
Mika_R, I know what that is |
| 16:29 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, still here? |
| 16:29 |
Mika_R |
yes |
| 16:29 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, If that just started... |
| 16:29 |
Mika_R |
yesterday when i got the game again |
| 16:30 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, It is a bug in Animals. Sapier1 has fixed it in new release but it is not stable or safe. He says the mod should continue to work. |
| 16:30 |
OldCoder |
Indicate if Animals work or not. |
| 16:30 |
Mika_R |
with /mods its not listed, don't know if redcrab has it here |
| 16:30 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, Then it is not related to my worlds? |
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OldCoder |
Mika_R, I can't comment in that case |
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Mika_R |
Oldcoder i tagged you cause you know a lot |
| 16:32 |
Mika_R |
Everyone agree that this is cause of windows |
| 16:33 |
NekoGloop |
Yes, because minetest is slowly becoming nonwindows compatible |
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thexyz |
ha-ha, ur fun |
| 16:34 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: seriously, remove highlight from "windows" word |
| 16:34 |
NekoGloop |
I dont have a highlight on windows. |
| 16:35 |
thexyz |
strange, it looks like you have |
| 16:35 |
thexyz |
what "windows compatibility" are you talking about? |
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NekoGloop |
As in it will no longer run on windows. Because "open source is better" (in the sense that it can be hacked easily) |
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thexyz |
nope, it will |
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Calinou |
NekoGloop: it is still perfeclty windows compatible |
| 16:37 |
Calinou |
sound works fine, the game itself works fine and is still quite fast |
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OldCoder |
Mika_R, ty! |
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Calinou |
minetest will probably never break windows compatibility else we would lose like 75% of players |
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PilzAdam |
onomatopoeia data for a mapgen v7 map: http://ompldr.org/vZ3d6eA/data.zip |
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thexyz |
NekoGloop: can you prove your words in any way? |
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thexyz |
PilzAdam: it doesn't support old mapblock versions ATM |
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PilzAdam |
it took 1 hour (!) to generate it |
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thexyz |
oh, you mean that |
| 16:39 |
thexyz |
mapgenv7, let me check it |
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thexyz |
PilzAdam: can you send me that map? |
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PilzAdam |
thexyz, the map is 3.4 MiB smaller (!) than the data for the mapper |
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Mika_R |
got to go, bye |
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PilzAdam |
thexyz, map: http://ompldr.org/vZ3d6eg/v7.zip |
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thexyz |
PilzAdam: ty |
| 16:43 |
PilzAdam |
and with the default mapper: http://www.zimg.eu/i/1999518607 |
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PilzAdam |
thexyz, as you can see your mapper adds some huge white areas to the map |
| 16:44 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: I know |
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thexyz |
it's far from alpha |
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thexyz |
I already implemented stupidMakeTilesV2; it's ~3 times slower than stupidMakeTiles |
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thexyz |
still working on it |
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rubenwardy |
PilzAdam: ...apper: http://www.zimg.eu/i/1999518607 |
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rubenwardy |
what are the gray areas? |
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PilzAdam |
can you also generate the image with the old mapper and add a button "Switch view" to the html interface |
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PilzAdam |
rubenwardy, stone |
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NekoGloop |
You've generated the mapblocks under the surface but not the surface, it seems. |
| 16:47 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: I don't think this feature is needed |
| 16:47 |
NekoGloop |
Or took a hellaciously long time digging. |
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PilzAdam |
thexyz, just random ideas |
| 16:48 |
Zeg9 |
You can easily modify the map.html |
| 16:48 |
Zeg9 |
To add a link/button to switch view |
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PilzAdam |
thexyz, maybe add a second view from the other side |
| 16:48 |
Zeg9 |
That would be nice but would take 2 times longer :D |
| 16:49 |
thexyz |
the top priority for now is to make it generate map in reasonable time, all other feature-requests are rejected |
| 16:50 |
Zeg9 |
Maybe with pyopengl it would be faster... |
| 16:50 |
thexyz |
Zeg9: care to implement & test? |
| 16:50 |
Zeg9 |
forget this idea |
| 16:50 |
thexyz |
sure |
| 16:50 |
Zeg9 |
lol |
| 16:50 |
Zeg9 |
I'm trying to get it running with pypy |
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PilzAdam |
thexyz, now a real feature suggestion: export the images immediatly so people can see the this parts while its generating |
| 16:51 |
PilzAdam |
-the |
| 16:51 |
thexyz |
well, that's not the "right way" to make it fast, the right way is to think about faster algo to draw blocks |
| 16:51 |
rubenwardy |
what are you doing, PilzAdam / thexyz? |
| 16:52 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: it already does, doesn't it? |
| 16:52 |
PilzAdam |
lemme check |
| 16:52 |
thexyz |
except that it only generates images for size 5 |
| 16:52 |
thexyz |
rubenwardy: https://github.com/xyzz/onomatopoeia/ |
| 16:52 |
moltenbot |
thexyz's link: xyzz/onomatopoeia ? GitHub |
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PilzAdam |
thexyz, it exports the images but I cant see it in the web interface |
| 16:54 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: zoom in |
| 16:54 |
thexyz |
rubenwardy: also http://minetest.ru/onomatopoeia/ |
| 16:55 |
PilzAdam |
nope, I cant find anything |
| 16:56 |
Zeg9 |
Fail at pypy: |
| 16:56 |
Zeg9 |
transform = numpy.matrix(numpy.identity(3)) |
| 16:56 |
Zeg9 |
AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'matrix' |
| 16:58 |
rubenwardy |
thats a great idea |
| 16:59 |
rubenwardy |
I thought of doing it ages ago, but I did not think it would be worth it |
| 17:00 |
thexyz |
why? |
| 17:01 |
rubenwardy |
because the might as well just log into the game, i thought, and it would slow the server down |
| 17:01 |
rubenwardy |
the way you made it look it much better, like a map |
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rubenwardy |
another reason is that I dont have the skill to do something like that |
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rubenwardy |
=== vote === |
| 17:05 |
rubenwardy |
what should the food mod contain next? |
| 17:06 |
FreeFull |
Hmm |
| 17:06 |
NekoGloop |
it should contain nuts. |
| 17:06 |
PilzAdam |
food</troll> |
| 17:06 |
FreeFull |
What kinda nuts |
| 17:06 |
FreeFull |
I think hazelnuts sound good |
| 17:06 |
rubenwardy |
nuts would be more of a tree mod thing |
| 17:06 |
rubenwardy |
nuts found under trees with a 1/3 chance of finding a nut |
| 17:09 |
rubenwardy |
cool, a poll mod has been added to the forum |
| 17:10 |
PilzAdam |
theres also PM now |
| 17:10 |
rubenwardy |
is there? awesome |
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| 17:13 |
rubenwardy |
PilzAdam, have you ever counted how many mods you have made? |
| 17:13 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
| 17:13 |
rubenwardy |
... |
| 17:13 |
PilzAdam |
it was something like 0.33 mods per day |
| 17:14 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 17:14 |
rubenwardy |
for me it is 0.000000000000003 mods a day |
| 17:14 |
rubenwardy |
= 2 mods |
| 17:14 |
rubenwardy |
traps and food |
| 17:14 |
rubenwardy |
interesting combation |
| 17:14 |
rubenwardy |
combination |
| 17:14 |
* VanessaE |
wanders in for a few mins |
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| 17:15 |
* NekoGloop |
puts a kitten on VanessaE's head |
| 17:15 |
PilzAdam |
hi VanessaE |
| 17:15 |
rubenwardy |
PilzAdam, you are certainly worthy of this medal several times over: https://github.com/rubenwardy/punbb_medals/blob/master/medal_types.php#L20 |
| 17:15 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: punbb_medals/medal_types.php at master ? rubenwardy/punbb_medals ? GitHub |
| 17:15 |
Dopium |
hi vanessae |
| 17:15 |
* PilzAdam |
puts a mushroom on VanessaE's head |
| 17:16 |
* rubenwardy |
puts a hazelnut on VanessaE's head |
| 17:16 |
* VanessaE |
looks at PilzAdam and grumbles |
| 17:16 |
* NekoGloop |
puts a kitten holding a mushroom on PilzAdam's head |
| 17:16 |
rubenwardy |
you are all nuts |
| 17:16 |
* PilzAdam |
wants to eat the mushroom but accidently eat the kitten |
| 17:16 |
rubenwardy |
* we are all mad around here * |
| 17:16 |
PilzAdam |
oops |
| 17:17 |
* VanessaE |
tosses the kitten in OldCoder's pile |
| 17:17 |
NekoGloop |
OldCoder: "Help! I'm drowning in kittens!" |
| 17:18 |
NekoGloop |
kitten: "wheeee~" |
| 17:18 |
thexyz |
rubenwardy: is that "medals" plugin finished? |
| 17:19 |
rubenwardy |
not yet |
| 17:19 |
rubenwardy |
http://punbb.informer.com/forums/post/147578/#p147578 |
| 17:20 |
moltenbot |
rubenwardy's link: Making a Medal Extension: What is the hook for user bar (Page 1) -- PunBB 1.4 troubleshooting -- PunBB Forums |
| 17:20 |
rubenwardy |
what are the bounds for a nodebox? is it 0.5 to -0.5? |
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thexyz |
rubenwardy: yes |
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| 17:31 |
rubenwardy |
what happens if a nodebox co-ord goes out of bounds? |
| 17:32 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 17:32 |
VanessaE |
the nodebox just gets bigger. |
| 17:32 |
OldCoder |
Wait |
| 17:32 |
VanessaE |
and the texture gets tiled across |
| 17:32 |
OldCoder |
I don't have a pile of kittens any longer... somebody took them the other day |
| 17:33 |
VanessaE |
so e.g. an X range of -0.5 to +1.5 would be two nodes wide and the texture would be tiled sideways |
| 17:33 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: oh, well in that case.. |
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* VanessaE |
grabs NekoGloop's box of kittens and pours some at OldCoder's feet |
| 17:33 |
NekoGloop |
Oi! I was using that. |
| 17:34 |
sokomine |
oldocder: just wait for nekogloop to come back with his infinite supply of kittens :-) |
| 17:34 |
sokomine |
ah, ok, vanessae has access to them as well :) |
| 17:34 |
thexyz |
rubenwardy: you shouldn't do that, it's evil |
| 17:34 |
Obiewan1111 |
Anyone know when redcrab's server will be back online? |
| 17:35 |
NekoGloop |
She just knows where i keep the kitten generator |
| 17:35 |
rubenwardy |
i was just wondering so I would know if I make a mistake |
| 17:35 |
sokomine |
my large bridges do that. it may happen that you fall down from them from one side. but it mostly works |
| 17:35 |
PilzAdam |
rubenwardy, I dont recommend make nodeboxes bigger than one node, the textures look really ugly when you do it (to be more precise the texture gets sized to the size of one node and the "other" node just has the color of the last pixel in this direction) |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: not correct. |
| 17:36 |
PilzAdam |
ehm |
| 17:36 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, [citation needed] |
| 17:36 |
sokomine |
let's say it works to a degree but may have unexpected side effects |
| 17:36 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: the texture is repeated along the axis in question, see Home Decor mod refrigerator. |
| 17:36 |
NekoGloop |
PilzAdam: That's fixed. |
| 17:36 |
VanessaE |
that object is one 2-node-tall nodebox that exploits the tileable nature of its front/side/back textures. |
| 17:37 |
Mika_R |
Sokomine, can you get on to redcrabs 30401? |
| 17:37 |
sokomine |
mika: hi & i'll try |
| 17:37 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: on my server, go into either of my houses, find the kitchen area, and look at the fridge :-) |
| 17:37 |
sokomine |
oh, hm...seems i don't get connected either :-( hope it will be up again soon |
| 17:38 |
sokomine |
rubenwardy: you seem to be one owner (the latest?) of the spawn area. do you know whom to contact to get a spot for the building school? |
| 17:38 |
VanessaE |
sokomine, Mika_R: it's dead for me, too. |
| 17:38 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: no, it's not repeated |
| 17:38 |
rubenwardy |
you can contact me |
| 17:38 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: yes, it is. |
| 17:38 |
thexyz |
for me it's only repeated when cracks are shown |
| 17:39 |
rubenwardy |
or cactuz |
| 17:39 |
sokomine |
i just saw glass beeing stolen again yesterday. the nature of the theft indicates that it was rather a clueless player than a malicious griefer... |
| 17:39 |
rubenwardy |
brb |
| 17:39 |
sokomine |
rubenwardy: fine! hope it will get up soon again |
| 17:40 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, http://www.zimg.eu/i/6992464 |
| 17:41 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_4233821853.png |
| 17:41 |
VanessaE |
I counter with that ^^ |
| 17:41 |
Mika_R |
sokomine, have you been thrown 5000 blocks from spawn when logging in? i spawned on top an other player and couldn't move, and then his character had some blocks in it, like if they were dropped and tangled in him |
| 17:41 |
VanessaE |
(the same holds true for the default 16px texture also) |
| 17:42 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, are you crazy? you cant counter that; its a fact that one side doesnt work correclty |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: then explain why it works for me? |
| 17:42 |
sokomine |
pilzadam: those things may happen. but grapical glitches are common anyway. when running/restarting a world several times without exiting the game inbetween i loose more and more images and get more and more errors. even under normal circumstances there are random textures missing (i.e. whole block has the same color) for no apparent reason |
| 17:42 |
sokomine |
mika had trouble with them yesterday as well |
| 17:42 |
Obiewan1111 |
What texture pack is that Vanessa? |
| 17:42 |
Obiewan1111 |
In the screenshot? |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
Obiewan1111: HDX, 256px |
| 17:42 |
thexyz |
sokomine: that's another glitch related to minetest not freeing all memory |
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| 17:43 |
PilzAdam |
sokomine, but this graphical glitch is caused by the nodebox; nothing else |
| 17:43 |
sokomine |
mika: pretty normal these days, unfortionately :-( just log in again |
| 17:43 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: maybe the glitch only happens on horizontal tiling then |
| 17:43 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, if I show you that its not working, you cant counter that; thats logic |
| 17:43 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: LOOK AT MY SCREENSHOT damn it |
| 17:43 |
rubenwardy |
almost logged off my computer to reboot in ubuntu, then I remembered I had not yet done what I logged in to do |
| 17:43 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 17:43 |
sokomine |
pilzadam: check if it really applies to all sides or if there is another error. it definitely does work sometimes |
| 17:43 |
Mika_R |
sokomine, got it fixed that way, but wondering how all these errors and problems all pop up now |
| 17:43 |
PilzAdam |
yea, as I said above: i dont recommend to use it because it has definetly glitches |
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| 17:44 |
VanessaE |
so figure out a pattern to the glitches and avoid those patterns? |
| 17:45 |
VanessaE |
the fridge in the screenshot is tiled vertically, your screenshot is horizontal - try it vertically and see what happens |
| 17:45 |
sokomine |
mika: maybe connected to the new player attachment system. but that gave us 3d-players and carts :-) the bugs are less worse than those irritating 2d-players for me |
| 17:46 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, are the textures resized? or are they just put on the nodebox if they are too big |
| 17:46 |
VanessaE |
they are just put on straight. |
| 17:46 |
VanessaE |
no resizing. |
| 17:46 |
sokomine |
vanessa: that might be true. the fridge certainly works well and has a good, working texture. plus it goes up...not sideways. so trouble with the collision box not beeing large enough or working just from one side does not happen |
| 17:46 |
VanessaE |
they are tiled (or supposed to be) in all directions to cover the whole nodebox |
| 17:48 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, and again wrong: the textures are first resized at the size of a node and the repeated to match the nodebox |
| 17:48 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: if you want to avoid that glitch, don't make nodebox bigger than node |
| 17:49 |
thexyz |
what's the point of doing that, anyway? |
| 17:49 |
PilzAdam |
try putting a 32x16 texture on an vertical two-node-nodebox |
| 17:49 |
sokomine |
thexyz: doing objects that are larger than one node. e.g. the fridge |
| 17:49 |
thexyz |
that should be done with multiple nodes |
| 17:49 |
sokomine |
it might work less well with e.g. a bathtub |
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sokomine |
hmmm. i'd actually prefer doors to be one larger nodebox. it is strange when they flip open visibly as two parts |
| 17:50 |
NekoGloop |
Do what adam did for his bigass pumpkin. |
| 17:50 |
thexyz |
sokomine: but that's evil |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: that's what I meant. |
| 17:50 |
jin_xi |
sokomine: me to |
| 17:50 |
jin_xi |
+0 |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
texture is sized to the node, sorry I guess I wasn't clear |
| 17:50 |
jin_xi |
p |
| 17:50 |
thexyz |
that's the most important difference between xdoors and xdoors2 |
| 17:50 |
jin_xi |
oh fuck it |
| 17:51 |
sokomine |
thexyz: :-( but it is more pracital in some situations :) |
| 17:51 |
thexyz |
for example..? |
| 17:51 |
VanessaE |
how else would I create a single object with one inventory, that's two nodes tall? |
| 17:52 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: detached inventory |
| 17:52 |
Calinou |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4299 < opinions? :D |
| 17:52 |
moltenbot |
Calinou's link: [Map] Some kind of tutorial map (Page 1) - Maps - Minetest Forums |
| 17:52 |
sokomine |
mostly furniture things. right now i plan to do a teleporter and would like to take that one as much space as the player needs to make sure that there is enough space for incoming players. plus it would look better |
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VanessaE |
well all I know is, it works fine for me and everyone else who's used the homedecor mod. |
| 17:53 |
thexyz |
well, then you'll have to manually check all node placements to make sure no intersections with other nodes occur |
| 17:53 |
VanessaE |
so your argument is invalid until you try it exactly the way I did. |
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| 17:54 |
sokomine |
anyone constructing such overly large nodes has to make sure that the replaced parts are air, yes. but that ought to be enough? |
| 17:54 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: no, u |
| 17:54 |
thexyz |
Nodes are the bulk data of the world: cubes and other things that take the |
| 17:54 |
thexyz |
space of a cube. |
| 17:54 |
thexyz |
(cube = 1x1x1) |
| 17:54 |
sokomine |
hm, yes. from a programmers point of view it may be really evil :-/ from a players point of view it is great :-) |
| 17:55 |
Calinou |
from an hard disk's view, it is the same :> |
| 17:55 |
Calinou |
thexyz: not all nodes are 1x1x1... nodeboxes :P |
| 17:55 |
thexyz |
um? |
| 17:56 |
sokomine |
well, smaller than a node might not be a problem at all :-) |
| 17:56 |
thexyz |
they don't have to be cubes, they have to take space of single cube |
| 17:56 |
NakedFury |
they all take that space in the game because you cant place 2 smaller nodeboxes in the same place |
| 17:56 |
thexyz |
as API doc says |
| 17:59 |
sokomine |
there had been some situations where i wished for two nodeboxes in the same space. my houses have a smaller magnification factor than most other houses compared to real ones. but too many nodes make the game load slow - and i can't see most of the normal stair+-stars anyway :-( |
| 18:00 |
sokomine |
but how about the doors? they might work as enlarged nodeboxes. it might just be that they are less efficient at closing off a space at the upper part |
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| 18:02 |
Calinou |
the countdown is over on ubuntu.com, site is overloaded |
| 18:02 |
Calinou |
\o/ |
| 18:02 |
Calinou |
tablets ftw |
| 18:04 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: well? did you try tiling in other directions? |
| 18:04 |
Obiewan1111 |
is this good or bad Calinou? |
| 18:05 |
Calinou |
heh, I don't care anyway |
| 18:05 |
Calinou |
it's not like I use tablets |
| 18:05 |
Calinou |
because the whole countdown thing is about unity on tablets IIRC |
| 18:05 |
Obiewan1111 |
Ubuntu for android looks pretty neat. |
| 18:06 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, I dont need to test it anymore because I already proofed that there are glitches |
| 18:06 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: you proved that there are glitches only along one axis and one face - didn't you see that the top face, X axis was okay? |
| 18:06 |
VanessaE |
(in your screenshot) |
| 18:07 |
VanessaE |
if you're gonna be anal about whitespace at the end of a line of code, I'm gonna be anal about your generic claims of "glitches" without adequate testing. |
| 18:08 |
VanessaE |
(well, X axis as I saw it in the screenshot, not sure which actual in-game axis that was) |
| 18:09 |
* Calinou |
updated his signature accordingly |
| 18:09 |
Calinou |
someone said that on #ubuntu |
| 18:11 |
Mika_R |
Sokomine,VanessaE: 30401 is up |
| 18:12 |
VanessaE |
cool |
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| 18:15 |
thexyz |
>Ubuntu now fits your phone |
| 18:15 |
thexyz |
huh, where can I download it for my GNex? |
| 18:17 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: You can buy all Ubuntu-compatible phones at your local Apple Store :P |
| 18:18 |
sokomine |
does it work for android phones as well? |
| 18:18 |
TwilightSparklee |
wut |
| 18:18 |
TwilightSparklee |
thexyz: Ubuntu for Nexus 7 |
| 18:19 |
sokomine |
mine has not enough ram for anything useful i'm afraid :-( |
| 18:20 |
sokomine |
those phones ought to be able to accept more ram :-) |
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| 18:31 |
jordach |
hey all |
| 18:32 |
VanessaE |
bbl, hi Jordach. |
| 18:32 |
PilzAdam |
hi jordach |
| 18:32 |
VanessaE |
time to go pay some bills |
| 18:32 |
* jordach |
isnt at home again |
| 18:32 |
jordach |
VanessaE: place it on the duck! |
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| 18:32 |
jordach |
heya Jeija |
| 18:33 |
Jeija |
hi |
| 18:36 |
jordach |
Jeija: how much further have you got on with your particles? |
| 18:36 |
sfan5 |
particles? |
| 18:38 |
PilzAdam |
Jeija's particles are simply awesome! |
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| 18:38 |
jordach |
RealBadAngel: how did you find the water / lava can bug in technic |
| 18:40 |
Calinou |
marktraceur: since when apple's bootloader is unlockable |
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| 18:41 |
Jeija |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB_wJbUaiJU that's what I got with particles |
| 18:41 |
moltenbot |
Jeija's link: Particles for minetest - 4th version - YouTube |
| 18:41 |
jordach |
\o/ |
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| 18:41 |
TB|Vibe-X |
hi guys / girls |
| 18:42 |
jordach |
hey TB|Vibe-X |
| 18:42 |
jordach |
hows the server (is it even working)?? |
| 18:42 |
TB|Vibe-X |
mine? |
| 18:42 |
jordach |
mhm. |
| 18:43 |
TB|Vibe-X |
im working on it. i registred minetest.de yesterday :D |
| 18:43 |
TB|Vibe-X |
before any other will ;) |
| 18:43 |
TB|Vibe-X |
does someone know, if i can build a deb package / ubuntu package from source (git) ? |
| 18:43 |
jordach |
<minetest.de> Herzlich Willkommen auf Ihrer Website! |
| 18:43 |
jordach |
fix me. |
| 18:43 |
TB|Vibe-X |
yeah im at work :D |
| 18:43 |
sokomine |
(we might eventually switch this channel to german :)) |
| 18:44 |
TB|Vibe-X |
are more germans here? :D |
| 18:44 |
PilzAdam |
+1 |
| 18:44 |
TB|Vibe-X |
auf zur blitzübernahme :D |
| 18:44 |
jordach |
no. |
| 18:44 |
jordach |
hell no. |
| 18:44 |
sokomine |
yes. a whole bunch of them :-) feels sometimes like half of us are german |
| 18:44 |
PilzAdam |
Ha, jordach ist aus GB |
| 18:44 |
sokomine |
,-) |
| 18:44 |
TB|Vibe-X |
and pilz from german? |
| 18:45 |
sokomine |
ich auch... |
| 18:45 |
jordach |
PilzAdam: MUSHROOMS! |
| 18:45 |
TB|Vibe-X |
this would explain, why Pilz :D i was thinking about, why he is called like german "mushroom " :D |
| 18:45 |
bas080 |
no |
| 18:45 |
bas080 |
-1 |
| 18:45 |
PilzAdam |
TB|Vibe-X, hast du schonmal meine forum signatur gesehen? |
| 18:45 |
TB|Vibe-X |
dam you're faster :D |
| 18:45 |
TB|Vibe-X |
nein kam ich leider nicht zu. ich hab es bislang nur mal überflogen und deine scripts gesehen *.* bin richtig begeistert |
| 18:45 |
PilzAdam |
http://minetest.net/forum/profile.php?id=2443 |
| 18:45 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: PilzAdam's profile - Minetest Forums |
| 18:46 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: It was a stab at Ubuntu's approach to Apple status. |
| 18:46 |
PilzAdam |
"Do not call me Pilz; Call me PilzAdam or Adam." |
| 18:46 |
bas080 |
Hey PilzAdam, why rewrite bones? |
| 18:46 |
sokomine |
ich hab das nicht ganz ernst gemeint mit dem "wir koennten uns auch auf deutsch unterhalten". englisch sprechen alle... |
| 18:46 |
bas080 |
Ik houd van een pilsje |
| 18:46 |
PilzAdam |
bas080, you made the original one? |
| 18:46 |
bas080 |
no... |
| 18:46 |
TB|Vibe-X |
i know sokomine ;) |
| 18:46 |
Calinou |
marktraceur: wait until 2014... ubuntu stores... there will be one in isle of man :) |
| 18:46 |
jojoa1997 |
can anyone help me with this mod https://github.com/jojoa1997/peaceful_npc |
| 18:46 |
moltenbot |
jojoa1997's link: jojoa1997/peaceful_npc ? GitHub |
| 18:46 |
PilzAdam |
bas080, because the original code was a real mess |
| 18:46 |
jordach |
a) this channel is for all english users |
| 18:47 |
PilzAdam |
jordach, chill, we will change back to english |
| 18:47 |
sokomine |
what about the peaceful npc? |
| 18:47 |
bas080 |
PilzAdam, compared to what? |
| 18:47 |
jojoa1997 |
i need to make them die in water' |
| 18:47 |
* jordach |
noticed that english is the only accepted language in the freenode usage rules |
| 18:48 |
sokomine |
poor npc :-) why? |
| 18:48 |
sokomine |
if they are peaceful they might peacefully bath in water.... |
| 18:48 |
jojoa1997 |
have you seen the underwater caves |
| 18:48 |
jordach |
cant they SWIM |
| 18:48 |
bas080 |
Everyone has his own style of coding... Some people use more lines i guess.. Is that wrong? |
| 18:48 |
jojoa1997 |
or i can make them die after 2 minutes |
| 18:48 |
jordach |
you know; hold space... |
| 18:48 |
sokomine |
no. i usually prefer on ground |
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jojoa1997 |
i need to limit how many there are |
| 18:48 |
PilzAdam |
ummm... https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/384 ... GitHub is somehow strange... |
| 18:49 |
moltenbot |
PilzAdam's link: added TOCLIENT_SHOW_FORMSPEC in order to display formspec on client from... by sapier ? Pull Request #384 ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub |
| 18:49 |
Kacey |
hello |
| 18:49 |
sokomine |
hm. iirc pilzadams simple_mobs die if they get in contact with water? |
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jojoa1997 |
so it is either die in water or die after 2 minutes |
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jordach |
PilzAdam: was sapier given access? |
| 18:49 |
PilzAdam |
sokomine, yep |
| 18:49 |
PilzAdam |
jordach, no... ? |
| 18:49 |
sokomine |
well, then have a look at those, jojoa |
| 18:49 |
sokomine |
or teach them swimming :) |
| 18:50 |
TB|Vibe-X |
does someone know, if i can build a deb package / ubuntu package from source or is there any tut? |
| 18:50 |
jordach |
then how could it have been merged |
| 18:50 |
sokomine |
might be fun as well |
| 18:50 |
jordach |
Calinou: just solve his problem |
| 18:50 |
jojoa1997 |
do you know how to make them die after 2 minutes |
| 18:50 |
thexyz |
jordach: it wasn't merged |
| 18:50 |
thexyz |
see, 0 commits |
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jojoa1997 |
that is prefered |
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sokomine |
vibe: i'm sure there is. i usually don't bother except for the kernel. best way ought to ask google? |
| 18:51 |
jordach |
hey NekoGloop |
| 18:51 |
Calinou |
TB|Vibe-X: use my one-line script http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3837 |
| 18:51 |
moltenbot |
Calinou's link: One-line script: installing/compiling Minetest git, Debian/Ubuntu/Mint (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums |
| 18:51 |
NekoGloop |
Ok, well the esper #minecraft's topic is interesting. |
| 18:52 |
sokomine |
jojo: you could make them remember when they where "born" and save that timestamp. whenever they do anything (i.e. change direction) you might check the current time against this timestamp and let them die. there are other mechanisms as well |
| 18:52 |
jojoa1997 |
? |
| 18:52 |
jojoa1997 |
sorry dont understand bbs |
| 18:52 |
TB|Vibe-X |
Calinou, building the bins from source is not the problem |
| 18:52 |
TB|Vibe-X |
but i wanted clean packages :) so i will have a look |
| 18:53 |
TB|Vibe-X |
i get the "failed to merge player" only on debian squeeze -.- on ubuntu 12.04 (Virtual machine) all run fine |
| 18:53 |
TB|Vibe-X |
and i am able to join :D so i will change to ubuntu tonight |
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jordach |
why, people connecting to your server will be probably be using 0.4.4 |
| 18:54 |
sokomine |
on debian it runs fine as well. maybe you're missing packages. it can be difficult to locate the necessary ones. i had to search a lot as well :-( but i don't remember which ones where required |
| 18:54 |
TB|Vibe-X |
there are no dependencies errors while compiling |
| 18:54 |
sokomine |
ok |
| 18:54 |
TB|Vibe-X |
its just the "failed to merge player" error, no idea why |
| 18:54 |
TB|Vibe-X |
with the same commands i compile from source like on debian |
| 18:54 |
TB|Vibe-X |
but on ubuntu it run fine |
| 18:55 |
jordach |
strange |
| 18:55 |
TB|Vibe-X |
you can just see the error, while you connect on server |
| 18:55 |
TB|Vibe-X |
maybe old libs on my server or something strange :/ |
| 18:55 |
jordach |
works for me on xubuntu, mint12, ubuntu.. |
| 18:55 |
TB|Vibe-X |
ubuntu runs find for me too |
| 18:55 |
TB|Vibe-X |
just squeeze makes this strange error |
| 18:55 |
jordach |
:O |
| 18:55 |
sapier |
ubuntu is a pain in the ass if you do use multiple monitors |
| 18:56 |
TB|Vibe-X |
not really o.O |
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* jordach |
loves being 1280x1024 |
| 18:56 |
sapier |
not talking about 2 |
| 18:56 |
TB|Vibe-X |
we work in our company (provider) with buuntu only |
| 18:56 |
TB|Vibe-X |
servers, routers, virtualization, and clients |
| 18:56 |
TB|Vibe-X |
webserver and so on :D all work fine |
| 18:56 |
sapier |
as of 12.10 I couldn't even play minetes because of ubuntu wasn't able to handle mouse correctly |
| 18:57 |
TB|Vibe-X |
12.10 is shit :D |
| 18:57 |
TB|Vibe-X |
the best was 10.04 LTS with gnome |
| 18:57 |
TB|Vibe-X |
12.04 is okay so far, but 12.10 :-! |
| 18:57 |
TB|Vibe-X |
no way |
| 18:57 |
sapier |
I've ben using ubuntu for years but starting with unity integration ubuntu started to degrade |
| 18:58 |
TB|Vibe-X |
yeah, i was thinking about changing my laptop to fedora |
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sapier |
and 12.10 drove me to switching distri |
| 18:58 |
TB|Vibe-X |
but im unsure at the moment :/ |
| 18:58 |
TB|Vibe-X |
to? |
| 18:58 |
sapier |
debian |
| 18:58 |
sapier |
a little bit oldfashioned but stable |
| 18:59 |
sokomine |
i'm still just using icewm and not kde, gnome, unity or anything like that (though there might be libs installed for the first two). never saw much point in a gui except starting programs |
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Minetest-tan |
AttributeError: object has no attribute 'href' (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/feedparser-5.1.2-py2.6.egg/feedparser.py", line 424, in __getattr__) |
| 19:00 |
thexyz |
fuck |
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thexyz |
sfan5: |
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sokomine |
sapier: did you get further with the duck? |
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jordach |
ehm, who activated the bot |
| 19:01 |
jordach |
oh right |
| 19:01 |
jordach |
c55 commited something |
| 19:02 |
sapier |
@sokomine no I managed to get formspec support to core :-) |
| 19:02 |
sokomine |
oh :-) that sounds good! |
| 19:02 |
sokomine |
what exactly can it do now? can it be called from a function in lua? i started doing something there but didn't get far yet |
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sfan5 |
thexyz: ... |
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thexyz |
it seems it's time for another windows build |
| 19:04 |
Minetest-tan |
GIT: celeron55 (Perttu Ahola) commited to celeron55/minetest: Call this 0.4.4-d1 because it has a protocol addition since 0.4.4 b7de864f2e 2013-01-02T11:03:47-08:00 |
| 19:05 |
thexyz |
sure |
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sokomine |
what does the new commit do? |
| 19:05 |
thexyz |
which one? |
| 19:05 |
thexyz |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commits/master |
| 19:05 |
moltenbot |
thexyz's link: Commit History ? celeron55/minetest ? GitHub |
| 19:06 |
sokomine |
the one you're talking about :-) |
| 19:06 |
thexyz |
hm.. i wasn't talking about any commit in particular |
| 19:06 |
sokomine |
and i'm especially intrested in sapiers formspec improvements |
| 19:06 |
thexyz |
yes, that one just got merged |
| 19:06 |
thexyz |
sokomine: what's your OS, btw? |
| 19:07 |
sokomine |
debian |
| 19:11 |
sokomine |
ah yes. one of the main reasons i wanted better formspecs is for npc. especially the peaceful npc. the animals don't really need it (there isn't much point in talking to them or trading :-)) |
| 19:16 |
OldCoder |
Back |
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sapier |
its MOBF :-) ... not only animals ;-) |
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Kacey |
wb OC |
| 19:17 |
OldCoder |
ty |
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Kacey |
yw' |
| 19:17 |
* OldCoder |
puts up a "Kittens Seek Homes" sign again |
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* Kacey |
reads the sign |
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Kacey |
hehe food |
| 19:18 |
* sokomine |
grabs one of the kittens (better take it than having one put on ones hair :-)) |
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* Kacey |
grabs the rest and runs off |
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sapier |
in 1.9.8 mobf a trader npc is included ;-) |
| 19:19 |
Kacey |
sweet |
| 19:20 |
sapier |
it's not spawning atm :-) |
| 19:20 |
sokomine |
ohhh! yes! a trader-npc is good :-) that is what i wanted (plus the ability to "talk" to the npc) |
| 19:20 |
sapier |
at least not automaticaly |
| 19:21 |
sokomine |
is it an animated model or a nodebox-npc? |
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iqualfragile |
sapier: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...mods/minetest/animals_modpack/mobf_settings/init.lua:426: attempt to concatenate global 'playername' (a nil value) |
| 19:23 |
iqualfragile |
since your newest update |
| 19:23 |
sapier |
yes mobf_settings was completely rewritten ... i should update my inventory_plus version |
| 19:25 |
iqualfragile |
so for now: mv mobf_settings .mobf_settings ? |
| 19:26 |
Kacey |
afk |
| 19:26 |
Kacey |
bbl |
| 19:26 |
sapier |
I've pushed a fix |
| 19:27 |
iqualfragile |
great |
| 19:28 |
sapier |
those lines got inverted using player name prior fetching it won't work |
| 19:28 |
thexyz |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4240 |
| 19:28 |
moltenbot |
thexyz's link: xyz's Minetest win32 builds (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums |
| 19:29 |
Exio |
git build? |
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TB|Vibe-X |
i saw, that the last commit for minetest changed "Protokoll number" does this change something between latest stable client and newest commited server? |
| 19:30 |
PilzAdam |
TB|Vibe-X, the client only gets a warning message if a mod calls show_formspec() |
| 19:31 |
TB|Vibe-X |
ah okay |
| 19:37 |
thexyz |
Exio: yes |
| 19:38 |
Exio |
i saw, nice |
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sokomine |
oh, hi redcrab :-) |
| 20:13 |
* sokomine |
tries to sell redcrab a bunch of mods for his server :) |
| 20:14 |
* marktraceur |
undercuts any price sokomine offers redcrab |
| 20:14 |
marktraceur |
I'm practically GIVING these mods away! |
| 20:14 |
marktraceur |
Oh wait, I am! |
| 20:15 |
sokomine |
:-) |
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sokomine |
please don't missunderstand. what that is intended to say is that redcrab ought to install some more mods that would be very useful on his server :) "selling" as in convincing him to take them :) |
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sokomine |
regarding the jungletrees: those 4-nodes-thick ones have 4 further nodes stretching out at the bottom which looks a bit like roots. can that be done with treegen as well? would be nice |
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marktraceur |
sokomine: I totally understand, not to worry |
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mauvebic |
pipeworks-wip/plantlib/aero 1st version: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2323 |
| 20:44 |
moltenbot |
mauvebic's link: [modpack] Aeroponics [010213][alt-pipeworks-wip][plantlib][aero] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
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Minetest-tan |
GIT: celeron55 (Perttu Ahola) commited to celeron55/minetest: Add InvRef:get_location() 69bd803a32 2013-01-02T12:53:55-08:00 |
| 21:02 |
Dopium |
minetest.org what a bunch of wanker admins |
| 21:06 |
thexyz |
Dopium: wut? |
| 21:08 |
Dopium |
they said i griefed but never had and never will i build epic stuff not destroy it, sorry im abit pissed about it |
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Minetest-tan |
GIT: celeron55 (Perttu Ahola) commited to celeron55/minetest: Add ServerEnvironment::setNode()/removeNode() to allow setting nodes from the C++ side with proper script-defined initialization/destruction 2c472a66d1 2013-01-02T13:18:14-08:00 |
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Obiewan1111 |
Can someone explain to me about the licensing bit when releasing a map? |
| 21:21 |
Obiewan1111 |
And how do you destroy panes from Jordach's panes mod. |
| 21:21 |
Obiewan1111 |
?* |
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jojoa1997 |
w/join ##mtmarktwain |
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Dopium |
i cant talk in game he revoked my privs |
| 21:32 |
Dopium |
im so pissed i never touched nothing |
| 21:33 |
Muadtralk |
which server? |
| 21:33 |
Muadtralk |
Dopium |
| 21:33 |
Obiewan1111 |
Dopium; What server is this? |
| 21:38 |
PilzAdam |
minetest.net seems to be down |
| 21:38 |
PilzAdam |
does anybody else have troubles to load the page? |
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thexyz |
PilzAdam: yes, it's down |
| 21:41 |
Muadtralk |
wait |
| 21:41 |
Muadtralk |
i was just on! |
| 21:41 |
Muadtralk |
checking |
| 21:41 |
thexyz |
I probably should add minetest.net uptime to servers.minetest.ru |
| 21:41 |
thexyz |
that'd be fun |
| 21:42 |
* marktraceur |
is ashamed of the new LPGC uptime stats |
| 21:42 |
thexyz |
hah |
| 21:43 |
thexyz |
well, I'm too lazy to make it only count last month |
| 21:43 |
marktraceur |
I was away from my desktop for four days, and five minutes into that period, BAM, server crash |
| 21:45 |
Obiewan1111 |
Guys.. Imagine this scenario.. Please. |
| 21:46 |
Obiewan1111 |
Say I make a really big map, seriously big, infact and upload it, if I put liscence: WTTPL (Or whatever that is), is it completely legit? |
| 21:46 |
Obiewan1111 |
What does the licence even mean? |
| 21:46 |
marktraceur |
Obiewan1111: How do you want people to be able to use the map? |
| 21:47 |
marktraceur |
Obiewan1111: Do you want them to re-release different copies of it, with modifications? |
| 21:47 |
jeffrash |
john_minetest, you around? |
| 21:48 |
jeffrash |
Just thinking about something for Zeg9's world or any other I guess |
| 21:48 |
thexyz |
john_minetest: yep |
| 21:48 |
thexyz |
and the whole minetest.ru |
| 21:48 |
thexyz |
and dev.minetest.net too |
| 21:48 |
jeffrash |
not sure if it's been done before but what about a public power planet |
| 21:49 |
PilzAdam |
btw: dev.minetest.net isnt down |
| 21:49 |
thexyz |
of course it isn't |
| 21:49 |
thexyz |
because it's hosted on same server as minetest.ru |
| 21:49 |
thexyz |
not on minetest.net |
| 21:49 |
marktraceur |
Obiewan1111: Do you only want them to be able to read (or explore) it? Or should they be allowed to release their own versions of it with changes? |
| 21:50 |
jeffrash |
john_minetest, I just created a array of 30 waterwills |
| 21:50 |
thexyz |
john_minetest: sure |
| 21:50 |
thexyz |
oh, forums are up again |
| 21:50 |
jeffrash |
I did it on my server |
| 21:50 |
PilzAdam |
minetest.net is up again |
| 21:50 |
jeffrash |
not setup for you to connect there |
| 21:51 |
marktraceur |
Obiewan1111: Talk in here, please. This could be useful to others. |
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Obiewan1111 |
I want them to able to explore my map, but not release versions of it with changes.. |
| 21:52 |
thexyz |
then -ND is your friend |
| 21:52 |
thexyz |
(aww, you're so evil) |
| 21:52 |
thexyz |
why don't you want them to release own versions? |
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| 21:52 |
Obiewan1111 |
You'll see when I finally upload it. |
| 21:53 |
marktraceur |
Obiewan1111: Is there a reason you want to prevent distribution of derivatives? |
| 21:53 |
thexyz |
saying that you are the author of the original one |
| 21:53 |
Obiewan1111 |
Erm.. |
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| 21:54 |
Obiewan1111 |
Well, It's going to be a huge map. |
| 21:54 |
Obiewan1111 |
And I'm going to video myself editing it. |
| 21:54 |
Obiewan1111 |
And making it. |
| 21:54 |
marktraceur |
Obiewan1111: All the more opportunity for someone to change parts and re-release--why not let someone do that if they want? |
| 21:55 |
Obiewan1111 |
You know what. Ok. :D |
| 21:55 |
marktraceur |
Obiewan1111: Do you want to allow resale of the work or its derivatives? |
| 21:56 |
Obiewan1111 |
Sorry, what? Simplified version please. |
| 21:57 |
RealBadAngel |
youre talkin bout a licence on a map? |
| 21:57 |
marktraceur |
Obiewan1111: Do you want someone to be able to sell a copy of the map? The classic example is someone selling CDs with a work on it to cover the costs of CD burning and transportation. |
| 21:57 |
thexyz |
-NC is evil too |
| 21:57 |
thexyz |
don't be evil |
| 21:57 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: I agree, but I'm not about to mislead Obiewan1111 just because he may have different ideas |
| 21:57 |
PilzAdam |
Obiewan1111, cc-by-sa <- here you go |
| 21:57 |
Obiewan1111 |
No, I don't want them to sell my work, but they can re-release it with certain tweaks. |
| 21:58 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 21:58 |
marktraceur |
Obiewan1111: Can I ask why you don't want someone to resell the map? |
| 21:58 |
thexyz |
why don't you want them to sell your work? |
| 21:58 |
thexyz |
oh |
| 21:58 |
OldCoder |
NEWS Mark Twain world reverted to fix griefing |
| 21:58 |
thexyz |
i'm late |
| 21:58 |
OldCoder |
Come back in |
| 21:58 |
Obiewan1111 |
Because they earn money... |
| 21:58 |
thexyz |
so..? |
| 21:58 |
Obiewan1111 |
Unless they give it me, no. |
| 21:59 |
marktraceur |
Obiewan1111: Why is it bad for someone to earn money? |
| 21:59 |
PilzAdam |
Obiewan1111, if you add share alike then people who sell this have to say the customers: "There is also a free version of this" |
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PilzAdam |
*free as in free beer |
| 21:59 |
Obiewan1111 |
It's like being the Phone manufacturer "Apple", they steal ideas and get paid the most money throughout all the Phone manufacturing companies. |
| 21:59 |
marktraceur |
PilzAdam: Not really, no |
| 22:00 |
PilzAdam |
marktraceur, its a bit simplified |
| 22:00 |
marktraceur |
PilzAdam: You could sell a GPL'd software and not tell people about the no-cost version |
| 22:00 |
RealBadAngel |
hmmmm. who is actually selling and buying minetest maps? |
| 22:00 |
Obiewan1111 |
That's a good point! |
| 22:00 |
PilzAdam |
marktraceur, dont we talk about cc? |
| 22:00 |
thexyz |
what's the problem with someone selling this? people can still obtain your "free" version instead of buying another one |
| 22:00 |
marktraceur |
RealBadAngel: Nobody, but we're trying to determine the licensing intent of someone who hasn't dealt with licenses beforre |
| 22:00 |
Obiewan1111 |
Right, so what licence? |
| 22:01 |
thexyz |
RealBadAngel: i don't think hmmmm knows |
| 22:01 |
RealBadAngel |
wtf pl |
| 22:01 |
thexyz |
so don't cast him here |
| 22:01 |
PilzAdam |
Obiewan1111, cc-by-sa <- here you go |
| 22:01 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
| 22:01 |
marktraceur |
Obiewan1111: It sounds like CC-BY-SA would work fine. But I haven't asked all the questions I'd like. |
| 22:01 |
RealBadAngel |
or wtflpl + donut |
| 22:02 |
marktraceur |
Obiewan1111: The two remaining ones are, "Do you want people to release later versions under non-free licenses?" and "Do you want people to attribute the work to you?" |
| 22:02 |
RealBadAngel |
do what the f... but send me a donut |
| 22:02 |
Obiewan1111 |
Erm.. |
| 22:02 |
PilzAdam |
Obiewan1111, http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ |
| 22:02 |
thexyz |
Obiewan1111: better release it under CC-BY-SA before getting buried with all marktraceur's questions |
| 22:02 |
Obiewan1111 |
I chose CC-BY-SA! |
| 22:02 |
Obiewan1111 |
Thank you.. |
| 22:03 |
PilzAdam |
never talk with marktraceur about license |
| 22:03 |
thexyz |
np |
| 22:03 |
PilzAdam |
;_) |
| 22:03 |
PilzAdam |
*;-) |
| 22:03 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: are you going to merge your changes? |
| 22:03 |
PilzAdam |
if its ok to you |
| 22:03 |
marktraceur |
PilzAdam: I happen to think I'm a good resource in that regard--I know enough about the process to ask the right questions to arrive at a competent answer |
| 22:03 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: seems it works |
| 22:03 |
marktraceur |
PilzAdam: As opposed to simply saying "Meh, CCBYSA" |
| 22:04 |
Obiewan1111 |
I have to agree there. |
| 22:04 |
PilzAdam |
marktraceur, you maybe ask a bit too much for newbies |
| 22:04 |
Obiewan1111 |
And I have to agree there.. |
| 22:04 |
PilzAdam |
when I first had to deal with licenses I was really happy when i found WTFPL |
| 22:04 |
RealBadAngel |
PilzAdam, sorry for the tab, will remove it with next pathc |
| 22:05 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, i count this as a "yes" |
| 22:05 |
thexyz |
yep, yep |
| 22:05 |
marktraceur |
PilzAdam: Newbies need the most questions, else they might be misinformed. If someone else had answered, Obiewan1111 might wind up licensing it under CC-BY-ND-NC or something equally insane. Or CC0. |
| 22:05 |
marktraceur |
PilzAdam: Or GFDL. As much as I love the idea of GNU, the FDL is kind of unnecessary. |
| 22:05 |
sapier |
I like CC-BY-NC-SA for example ;-) |
| 22:06 |
NekoGloop |
CC-BY-ND-NC is only fair to the developer. |
| 22:06 |
sapier |
nd for non disclosure? |
| 22:06 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: typical windows user? |
| 22:06 |
sapier |
no non distiburable |
| 22:06 |
marktraceur |
NekoGloop: I suspect both opponents and proponents of the license would say the same thing, though with different emphasis :) |
| 22:07 |
marktraceur |
sapier: No derivatives |
| 22:07 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: you forgot about No-Download |
| 22:07 |
thexyz |
oh, wait, it's here |
| 22:07 |
NekoGloop |
thexyz: No, the person who doesnt want his work thrown all over. |
| 22:07 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: no, you don't like freedom |
| 22:08 |
thexyz |
as a typical non-free software user |
| 22:08 |
NekoGloop |
freedom == anyone can steal your work and you cant do anything about it. |
| 22:08 |
marktraceur |
Children children, simmer down |
| 22:08 |
thexyz |
freedom is freedom |
| 22:08 |
sapier |
freedom and freedom most times are different things ;-) |
| 22:08 |
marktraceur |
Everyone has made their stances more than clear, we don't need to rehash it |
| 22:08 |
Minetest-tan |
GIT: PilzAdam (PilzAdam) commited to celeron55/minetest: Change the nodenames for dirt -> grass and sapling -> tree abms to match the mapgen aliases 5a13c49492 2013-01-02T14:06:31-08:00 |
| 22:09 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: minetest is free, go on, steal it |
| 22:09 |
RealBadAngel |
you write for the community, and using what community does |
| 22:09 |
marktraceur |
If Obie had held up under my questions about why he wanted to make his map non-free, I would have recommended ND or NC. Worry not. |
| 22:09 |
PilzAdam |
hm, the bot only gets the latest commit if 2 commits at the same time are pushed |
| 22:09 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: yes, it only gets latest RSS entry |
| 22:09 |
thexyz |
*she |
| 22:09 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: Maybe use a timeout and dequeue one entry at a time? |
| 22:09 |
NekoGloop |
"she"? |
| 22:10 |
thexyz |
of course Minetest-tan is "she" |
| 22:10 |
iqualfragile |
moltenbot is an "it" |
| 22:10 |
thexyz |
she has feelings, like http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-01-02#i_2775340 |
| 22:10 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, maybe you cant tweak Jeija death camera effect a bit and add it too |
| 22:11 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: maybe |
| 22:11 |
thexyz |
marktraceur: better ask sfan5|OFF |
| 22:11 |
thexyz |
as he is the one who does the code |
| 22:11 |
NekoGloop |
... |
| 22:11 |
marktraceur |
Well, he has a ping now |
| 22:11 |
NekoGloop |
That is called an error message. |
| 22:12 |
thexyz |
NekoGloop: no way |
| 22:12 |
thexyz |
she felt bad, that's why she posted that message |
| 22:12 |
NekoGloop |
Not feelings |
| 22:13 |
marktraceur |
sfan5|OFF: In summary, it might be good to limit the commit messages to once per X seconds (maybe 10? maybe 60?) and queue up a few in a row if there are multiple new entries in a feed |
| 22:13 |
sdzen |
NekoGloop It wants to be human |
| 22:13 |
sdzen |
just let it |
| 22:13 |
sdzen |
if it trys to revolt |
| 22:13 |
sdzen |
kill it |
| 22:13 |
marktraceur |
sfan5|OFF: Depending on the language I could help |
| 22:13 |
NekoGloop |
Which one, the bot or thexyz. |
| 22:13 |
sdzen |
the bot |
| 22:13 |
sdzen |
although sometimes I suspect thexyz isn't a human being |
| 22:13 |
sdzen |
but a complex program |
| 22:14 |
* marktraceur |
wouldn't enjoy it if sdzen killed thexyz |
| 22:14 |
thexyz |
sdzen: why? |
| 22:14 |
thexyz |
is my english that bad? |
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| 22:14 |
marktraceur |
thexyz: Your English is fine |
| 22:15 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, you would pass the turing test compared to Minetest-tan |
| 22:15 |
iqualfragile |
sdzen: no, thexyz is just a russian, OldCoder is a bot wich passes the turing test |
| 22:15 |
PilzAdam |
thats true |
| 22:16 |
thexyz |
I wouldn't pass reCaptcha |
| 22:16 |
iqualfragile |
thexyz: nobody would |
| 22:17 |
sdzen |
PilzAdam |
| 22:17 |
sdzen |
why did you make fire buildable to? |
| 22:17 |
sdzen |
thats absurd! |
| 22:17 |
PilzAdam |
because fire _is_ buildable to |
| 22:17 |
iqualfragile |
exactly |
| 22:17 |
PilzAdam |
its just a bit of gas |
| 22:19 |
sdzen |
can you build on gas? |
| 22:19 |
sdzen |
can you place something on top of it? |
| 22:19 |
sdzen |
IRL |
| 22:20 |
sokomine |
depends how dense it is |
| 22:20 |
sdzen |
okay let me rephrase can you put something on top of fire irl |
| 22:20 |
thexyz |
real world doesn't consist of 1x1x1 m blocks |
| 22:20 |
sdzen |
true but.... |
| 22:20 |
PilzAdam |
sdzen, yes, I can put some sand on flames IRL |
| 22:20 |
RealBadAngel |
no |
| 22:20 |
sdzen |
do they float above the flames? |
| 22:21 |
sdzen |
no they dont |
| 22:21 |
thexyz |
sdzen: read what "buildable_to" is |
| 22:21 |
thexyz |
buildable_to = false, -- If true, placed nodes can replace this node |
| 22:21 |
RealBadAngel |
you can throw the sand in general direction of it |
| 22:21 |
PilzAdam |
s/on/in |
| 22:21 |
sdzen |
ahhhh |
| 22:21 |
sdzen |
sorry about that |
| 22:21 |
sdzen |
buildable to wasnt quite clear with me :P |
| 22:22 |
PilzAdam |
anyone knows if "CasimirKaPazi" is here? |
| 22:22 |
sdzen |
this is what happens when I have too much caffiene |
| 22:22 |
PilzAdam |
(thats a GitHub nick) |
| 22:23 |
sdzen |
sorry for the trouble |
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| 22:24 |
hmmmm |
selling and buying minetest maps...? |
| 22:24 |
hmmmm |
you've got to be joking |
| 22:25 |
thexyz |
why not? c55 did that |
| 22:25 |
hmmmm |
how is minetest worth money to anybody |
| 22:25 |
us_0gb |
Yes, that's what buildable_to is. |
| 22:25 |
hmmmm |
are you serious |
| 22:25 |
thexyz |
http://minetest.net/buy.php |
| 22:25 |
moltenbot |
thexyz's link: Minetest |
| 22:25 |
thexyz |
that was more like a joke though |
| 22:25 |
iqualfragile |
thexyz: yes, but only because it seemd illegal to collect donations |
| 22:25 |
hmmmm |
oh yeah |
| 22:25 |
hmmmm |
that's different |
| 22:25 |
thexyz |
still |
| 22:25 |
sokomine |
why ought that to be illegal? |
| 22:26 |
iqualfragile |
pff… ask celeron55 |
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| 22:26 |
jin_xi |
INVALINE DOKCS |
| 22:26 |
iqualfragile |
bnd? i have never seen a bnd or rsiska: good evening, nice to meet you |
| 22:26 |
sokomine |
strange. but there are strange laws out there...in all countries |
| 22:26 |
marktraceur |
hmmmm: I asked about buying and selling because it's one aspect of the licensing process, not because it's a probable occurrence. |
| 22:27 |
hmmmm |
i see |
| 22:29 |
sokomine |
what would be nice though would be a large empty map prepared with dirt (topped with dirt_with_grass) and nothing else on it that could act as a starting point for building buildings for people with slower computers. generating the landscape and then getting rid of it both consumes time |
| 22:29 |
us_0gb |
True. |
| 22:30 |
sokomine |
can't someone with a fast computer do such a map and put it in the forum? :-) |
| 22:31 |
VanessaE |
hi all. |
| 22:31 |
sokomine |
i even tried to change just those nodes around point 0,0,0 and afterwards duplicate them in the database, but that didn't work that well |
| 22:31 |
us_0gb |
Hello! |
| 22:33 |
marktraceur |
sokomine: It would probably be simple-ish to create a map programmatically |
| 22:34 |
PilzAdam |
just wait for mapgen_v7 |
| 22:35 |
hmmmm |
sokomine, you can already do that with a mod if you'd really like to |
| 22:35 |
hmmmm |
but with version 7 of the mapgen, making a totally flat map is trivial |
| 22:35 |
* sokomine |
hopes for mapgen v7 then |
| 22:35 |
hmmmm |
you just define a single biome with the land type 'flat' |
| 22:36 |
sokomine |
the trouble with the mod is that it's awfully slow :-( |
| 22:36 |
hmmmm |
mmm.. |
| 22:36 |
hmmmm |
welp |
| 22:36 |
hmmmm |
i am putting the finishing touches on my stuff |
| 22:36 |
hmmmm |
i need to stop being distracted and just work on it |
| 22:36 |
hmmmm |
it'll be done soon though i promise |
| 22:37 |
sokomine |
sorry. please continue |
| 22:37 |
PilzAdam |
sokomine, jordan4ibanez made a mod that is quite fast because it adds only 2 or 3 layers and the rest is air |
| 22:37 |
sokomine |
hope it motivates you to hear that it will be appreciated :-) |
| 22:37 |
sokomine |
hm. sounds better. but iirc even the one that didn't add anything was somehow slow. do you remember the name of the mod? |
| 22:39 |
PilzAdam |
sokomine, it was in a modpack or a game but i dunno the name |
| 22:40 |
iqualfragile |
PilzAdam: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=61161#p61161 |
| 22:40 |
moltenbot |
Masters link: [Mod] Reworked signs from xyz [signs] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums |
| 22:40 |
kaeza |
k I'm back |
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| 22:41 |
PilzAdam |
iqualfragile, I do read the forums, you dont have to point me to that |
| 22:42 |
PilzAdam |
and I also know it would be great to have this |
| 22:42 |
iqualfragile |
PilzAdam: just wanted to express that i share theirs oppinion |
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kaeza |
OldCoder: PM whenever you have the time |
| 22:54 |
VanessaE |
zzz |
| 22:55 |
* kaeza |
puts a water source above VanessaE's head |
| 22:55 |
* VanessaE |
steps aside |
| 22:55 |
VanessaE |
(server lag gave me enough time ;) ) |
| 22:55 |
kaeza |
*the entire channel is flooded* |
| 22:55 |
* Uberi |
puts an air above kaeza's head |
| 22:56 |
kaeza |
hey V! sleepy already? |
| 22:56 |
VanessaE |
bored |
| 22:57 |
* marktraceur |
has a stockpile of 3000 air |
| 22:57 |
marktraceur |
Eventually, when the world is all mined out, it will be a valuable resource |
| 22:58 |
Uberi |
don't want to run out of air now |
| 22:58 |
* kaeza |
places a CONTENT_IGNORE above Uberi's and marktraceur's heads. |
| 22:58 |
* marktraceur |
gasps for breath |
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Uberi |
:O |
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| 23:06 |
us_0gb |
If I had known how to gather air, I would have stockpiles some before the glitch was removed. |
| 23:06 |
us_0gb |
*stockpiled |
| 23:06 |
Uberi |
us_0gb: and /giveme air seems to be off limits too :( |
| 23:06 |
us_0gb |
Really? Nice. |
| 23:07 |
* us_0gb |
runs off to test |
| 23:08 |
VanessaE |
nothin' says you can't just fetch from the commit where the bug was most evident ;) |
| 23:08 |
us_0gb |
Also, I don't have /give on the server that I want air on. |
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| 23:09 |
us_0gb |
I just tried "/giveme air". It does still work. |
| 23:10 |
marktraceur |
Awesome! |
| 23:10 |
marktraceur |
I mean, stupid. But also awesome. |
| 23:10 |
us_0gb |
"/giveme ignore" also works. |
| 23:11 |
Uberi |
huh |
| 23:11 |
marktraceur |
us_0gb: That's weird |
| 23:11 |
us_0gb |
I think when I tried "/giveme unknown", it failed though, even though that IS a regestered node. |
| 23:11 |
us_0gb |
Or maybe it worked. I forget. |
| 23:12 |
marktraceur |
us_0gb: Maybe it's supposed to be default:unknown ? |
| 23:12 |
us_0gb |
No. The code registers ":unknown". |
| 23:12 |
Uberi |
try __builtin:unknown |
| 23:12 |
Uberi |
ah |
| 23:12 |
Uberi |
well probably won't work |
| 23:12 |
Uberi |
I tried /giveme : to get the player hand and it failed |
| 23:13 |
us_0gb |
Nive. But you have to remove the preceding colen. |
| 23:13 |
us_0gb |
But that would be an empty string |
| 23:13 |
us_0gb |
"/giveme :air" does not work. |
| 23:14 |
us_0gb |
Bye! |
| 23:14 |
Uberi |
bye |
| 23:14 |
us_0gb |
How do you change your name like that? |
| 23:15 |
kaeza |
us_0gb: /nick Your New Nick |
| 23:15 |
us_0gb |
Okay, thanks. |
| 23:16 |
us_0gb |
I've got company. Bye! |
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* OldCoder |
will return later |
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| 23:40 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 23:46 |
VanessaE |
mauvebic: are you awake? |
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| 23:55 |
BackupCoder |
hi |
| 23:55 |
Uberi |
o/ |
| 23:55 |
sapier |
backup? :-) |
| 23:56 |
BackupCoder |
ve howdy is world up to date uberi how are u |
| 23:56 |
VanessaE |
Coder: cool :-) |
| 23:56 |
Uberi |
bit sad how the world ended on december 21st |
| 23:57 |
Uberi |
oh wait, no it didn't :P |
| 23:58 |
marktraceur |
Does anyone have really vehement opinions on vendor/currency mods? |
| 23:58 |
VanessaE |
I don't care much for such mods to be honest |
| 23:58 |
Uberi |
yes |
| 23:58 |
Uberi |
well not really |
| 23:58 |
Uberi |
I prefer to trade actual items instead |
| 23:59 |
Uberi |
like MESE crystals, for example |
| 23:59 |
Uberi |
MESE is a great currency |
| 23:59 |
marktraceur |
VanessaE: I'm inclined to agree, but having some ability to trade is good, and currency seems like the cleanest way to do it |
| 23:59 |
Uberi |
plus there is natural inflation from the mining industry |
| 23:59 |
marktraceur |
Uberi: My understanding is that mese is used to create currency, so it essentially is currency except that it's broken into littler bits when you craft |
