IRC log for #minetest, 2012-12-13

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Time	Nick	Message
00:00	paxcoder	what do you regenerate
00:00	sema4	haha, this is all stuff we talkabout about 20 pages ago :)
00:00	paxcoder	you either regenerate (deteriorate) everything, or nothing
00:00	paxcoder	sema4, i wasn't here 20 pgs ago
00:00	sema4	no, i know, i just thought it was amusing
00:01	marktraceur	paxcoder: Complicated stuff. I'm not sure what to tell you.
00:01	paxcoder	sema4, if it was resolved, i'd like to hear about it
00:03	NakedFury	check for stone, if its placed by player ignore, throw a "dice roll" for chance of turning into ore then throw another to check which ore. only do this if it is in very deep depths, 100 or more deeper.
00:03	klunk	something chek node, from deeper limits, if there is nothing more than oven and torchs=this is mine or ground, so let's flush, realistic approach.
00:04	sema4	most interesting idea, was something uberi mentioned; a replicator block that costs a lot of commonrenewable material to make (trees and so on) and can transmute things into more exotic material, but dies after so many uses.
00:04	paxcoder	NakedFury, awful
00:04	paxcoder	klunk, suddenly, pick
00:04	mauvebic	or convert matter to energy and energy back to different matter?
00:05	paxcoder	sema4, runs on?
00:05	paxcoder	slash costs?
00:05	marktraceur	paxcoder: Actually, why would you need to distinguish? Physical reactions should occur no matter what....
00:05	paxcoder	marktraceur, that's what i said
00:06	paxcoder	nature's a griefer ;-)
00:06	marktraceur	paxcoder: It's just a matter of making it happen over really long periods of time, so it won't noticeably modify the underground nature of mines, etc.
00:06	sema4	if you can expend the necessary time and resources to build a cyclotron, then you can make small amounts of mese no problem
00:06	marktraceur	paxcoder: register_abm( { interval = 3000, chance = 1000000, ....
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00:06	youlysses	Any public server list any-where?
00:07	paxcoder	marktraceur, not a minetest dev, i'm afraid. but yeah, something like that
00:08	sema4	paxcoder: sorry, i neglected to answer you - i don't know what it runs on :)
00:08	marktraceur	youlysses: http://servers.minetest.ru/
00:08	paxcoder	sema4, it's just trading with an inanimate object
00:09	youlysses	marktraceur: Thanks!
00:09	sema4	yeah, seems so
00:11	paxcoder	sema4, which then establishes a conversion rate
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00:11	paxcoder	and picking, eg. mese, we can relatively rank all other materials
00:11	Octupus	hi
00:11	paxcoder	celeron55 left. we must all go home now. cya
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00:11	paxcoder	oh nvm
00:12	Uberi	heh
00:12	Octupus	Im making a website WOOOOT
00:12	sema4	yeah, it doesn't really solve the problem of resource depletion, since it costs so much to run.  only helps with the problem of *exotic* resource depletion
00:12	sema4	oh except it was built with renewables
00:13	sema4	so there is a time factor involved in producing the exotic material.
00:14	Octupus	i have a terrible BG color so ima put a bg picture
00:15	sema4	why not choose a non-terrible BG colour?
00:15	paxcoder	sema4, i thought of an answer: for every MESE mined, spawn another block randomly
00:15	paxcoder	also, exchange machine ;-)
00:16	Uberi|Away	paxcoder: how would you explain the exchange machine? alchemy?
00:16	sema4	portal to another dimension
00:16	Uberi|Away	neeeeaaaat
00:16	paxcoder	XD nah, heck we can still trade with one another
00:16	paxcoder	i have no idea what i just said
00:17	marktraceur	It's not a bad idea to have theoretically infinite numbers of worlds connected via economy
00:17	paxcoder	so yeah, let's go with alchemy
00:17	marktraceur	I mean, it should cost a *lot* of resources to get that ability, but it could be nice.
00:17	NakedFury	Transdimensional Trade Machine
00:17	sema4	if there was a way to bring inventory from one server to another
00:17	paxcoder	marktraceur, how's that not a bad idea, considering we don't have unlimited real-life resources (memory)
00:18	paxcoder	sema4, hehe. "loading nether" actually "connecting to another server"
00:18	marktraceur	sema4: It's simple enough....just have a special node with inventory that transfers between worlds, and use that to funnel resources.
00:18	Uberi|Away	sema4: what if you spawned a world full of MESE, like marktraceur suggested yesterday?
00:18	marktraceur	Hmm, true.
00:18	sema4	via a cybertronian type of space bridge.
00:18	mauvebic	you need a teleport that works with address and port #
00:19	marktraceur	Uberi|Away: Presumably you would need to trust the administrators of any servers you connect to
00:19	paxcoder	btw. if one was to mine spawn, and always spawn, the mese would randomly spawn elsewhere. unnatural selection
00:21	paxcoder	all extra-world resources mean the world will become desolate
00:22	paxcoder	all resources owuld be imported
00:22	paxcoder	so i think reseeding is the only real soltion
00:22	mauvebic	you could have naturally spawning resource asteroids high up
00:22	sema4	how would it become desolate?  maybe one big sprawling city.
00:22	paxcoder	mauvebic, you only replaced "below X" with "above X"
00:23	NakedFury	how high have you guys naturaly gone in minetest? walking up montains or terrain
00:23	sema4	moutnains don't get generated too high iirc
00:23	mauvebic	well resources dont really "grow" underground over short periods
00:23	NakedFury	the game needs to generate high altitude terrain so we dont have half the game world unused
00:23	mauvebic	so space would be a good place to randomly find new resources
00:23	paxcoder	sema4, if the world is limited, eventually it'd get depleted. you'd still build stuff, but not with what the world produces - except for renewables like trees - so we really need to make everything renewable
00:26	sema4	that's an interesting point NakedFury ... is the origin point 0,0,0 or is it 0,0,30,000 ?
00:26	sema4	ok i guess 0,30000,0
00:26	paxcoder	sema4, just move the 0
00:26	paxcoder	(in the middle)
00:27	paxcoder	it is in the middle, isn't it?
00:27	sema4	x,y,z - y is vertical axis
00:27	NakedFury	well in the end we can all agree on a -200 y deep random huge chance for ores to spawn over long intervals of time?
00:28	sema4	only if the world hasn't been excavated to that level yet
00:28	jin_xi	the humble beginnings of a CAD mod for minetest: http://i.imgur.com/AiUdw.png
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00:31	telek	Neat.
00:32	NakedFury	a what?
00:32	NakedFury	CAD as in autocad?
00:32	jin_xi	yes
00:33	NakedFury	im up for testing when needed!
00:33	jin_xi	atm i'm just experimenting
00:33	Uberi	wow that is impressive jin_xi
00:33	Uberi	importing STL files?
00:33	jin_xi	trying to come up with a nice workflow
00:33	NakedFury	you HAVE to do the commands like they are in autocad
00:34	jin_xi	i only used archicad
00:34	cy1	jin_xi: looks like worldedit...
00:34	jin_xi	cy1: in a way yes
00:34	NakedFury	well /l works the same in autocad as in archicad
00:34	jin_xi	but i wanna make it more geometry oriented
00:34	cy1	sure
00:35	jin_xi	as in: arc from 3 points or extrude, copy and rotate and such
00:35	NakedFury	and mirror
00:35	jin_xi	arbitrary angles of course
00:35	cy1	worldedit screws up rotation interestingly. like, big time. Found out when I tried to make a spiral staircase.
00:35	cy1	Hope no stairs are left embedded in stuff...
00:35	Uberi	cy1: sorry, I fixed that today
00:35	sema4	cy1: yeah it's like 'explode' rather than 'rotate'
00:36	Uberi	Smitje helped a lot with that
00:36	sema4	Uberi: worldedit is yours?
00:36	cy1	Uberi: :I I'm already done with the staircase.
00:36	Uberi	but I can't get on the forums to thank him/her
00:36	cy1	thanks though
00:36	Uberi	yeah sema4, along with sfan5's
00:36	jin_xi	i hope to complement worldedit and wont redo its features
00:36	sema4	Uberi: well i have to say, that is the best mod out there, it has saved me months i would have spend hand-laying blocks :)
00:37	Uberi	sema4: you'll want to thank sfan5 for the original idea :P
00:37	sema4	ok!
00:40	jin_xi	so, does worldedit do lines as in my pic? maybe i just haven't figured out...
00:41	Uberi	jin_xi: nope, no line functionality at the moment
00:41	cy1	jin_xi: be nice if worldedit also adjusted the param2 when rotating... like to make stairs continue to face a certain way.
00:41	Uberi	cy1: I was thinking about adding that the other day, in fact :P
00:42	jin_xi	definitely should do that
00:42	cy1	Uberi: see sonic screwdriver in technic for a great example of something that messes with param2
00:42	jin_xi	if you use stairs+ for detail you can make crazy stuff
00:42	Uberi	yep
00:44	cy1	you can make signs that hang out  from ya shop wall <3
00:44	cy1	regular screwdriver in technic does the same thing, just it's a regular tool instead of a technic power tool
00:44	Uberi	hmm
00:45	Uberi	I wonder if the site is back up
00:45	cy1	doesn't make a lot of difference, since technic has a regular tool recharger too.
00:45	Uberi	darn, have to put the WorldEdit update post on my todo list
00:46	sema4	shouldn't take much to make worldedit do a line between pt 1 & 2
00:47	NakedFury	no but then other people might say waste of time do //set material
00:47	Uberi	yeah I already wrote bresenham in lua
00:47	Uberi	NakedFury: that doesn't make oblique lines, though
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00:48	NakedFury	I want a delete but then //set air does the same
00:48	NakedFury	/drain but then //replace water blablah air
00:48	cy1	I want a delete that returns the world to how it was generated.
00:48	cy1	need celeron55's permission for that though :p
00:49	Uberi	cy1: not quite, using lua sqlite it is possible to delete mapblocks in the server's map
00:49	Uberi	but MT locks the DB while it's running, so it needs to be an external program
00:49	cy1	Uberi: you can get at the world's db in a mod?
00:49	cy1	oh, yeah
00:49	cy1	I just use the console level sqlite3 command :p
00:50	Uberi	cy1: nope, not while MT is running
00:50	cy1	Resetting chunks risks screwing up stuff near what I want to annihilate though.
00:50	Uberi	tried today, the DB is locked
00:50	NakedFury	- //redo and undo.   //delete  //drain   //spray material size[radius of work area](works like a spraypaint just changing the top block to the selected material)
00:50	cy1	Uberi: actually it works fine... sometimes it says db file locked, but just keep resending the delete...
00:50	Uberi	NakedFury: what does //spray do?
00:50	Uberi	cy1: really? huh
00:51	Uberi	also //redo and //undo would be nice, yes
00:51	cy1	//spray would set the blocks only in places where there is a block, and there is air (or water (or fire (or lava)))) above it.
00:51	jin_xi	i want to figure out a good way to specify relative/absolute pos's in chatcommands
00:51	cy1	Uberi: I even watched the map reset piece-wise with a running client. c:
00:51	Uberi	cy1: really? what did that look like?
00:51	cy1	And then eat a chunk out of my spiral staircase. :c
00:51	cy1	Like anticheat? Nothing special.
00:52	cy1	The server just sends chunk updates periodically or something.
00:52	Uberi	hmm
00:52	cy1	(Luckily my world is backed up so I just restored the whole map pre-worldedit)
00:52	NakedFury	well for spray we would need something like in Minecrafts WorldEdit Wand tool. //spray default:desert_sand 5 would change in a circle with a 5 radius or diameter the blocks on your sight with the wand to the desert sand
00:53	Uberi	hmm, I was thinking about a worldedit_items mod to go with worldedit_commands and worldedit_gui
00:53	Uberi	speaking of worldedit_gui, that needs unifiedinventory support
00:55	NakedFury	speaking of commands we need a copy/paste function on the chat and ability to use arrow keys to go up past written lines. would make life easier
00:55	Uberi	yeah, I'd love that
00:55	jin_xi	readline
00:55	Uberi	just need those Irrlicht guys to fix the multiline edit control
00:56	sema4	just learn to type fast, then it's quicker to type each command than copy paste
00:56	sema4	;)
00:56	M13_	there cp paste
00:56	M13_	is*
00:57	Uberi	sema4: not with some ridiculously long node names :P
00:57	sema4	oh yeah
00:57	Uberi	this_is_a_mod:that_forgot_to_use_aliases_again_oh_no
00:57	NakedFury	sema4: writting //set default:desert_sand or stone over and over sucks
00:58	sema4	that reminds me, i stopped being able to do //set desert_stone, now i have to do //set default:desert_stone.  it is baffling.
00:58	Uberi	NakedFury: //set desert_sand works too :P
00:58	jin_xi	in-game lua to just define an alias for yourself would be nice
00:58	Uberi	sema4: that is strange, maybe the aliases weren't defined
00:58	NakedFury	./giveme crazy modname:again repeat crazy name and add_underscores 5
00:58	marktraceur	NakedFury: Is that an executable?
00:58	marktraceur	:)
00:59	NakedFury	its a pain
00:59	marktraceur	/say /giveme
00:59	Uberi	/alias super_long_mod_name:super_long_node_name thingy
00:59	sema4	Uberi: genius!
01:00	marktraceur	/part
01:00	NakedFury	and yeah not being able to do desert_sand sucks too
01:01	sema4	oh you have that problem too?
01:01	NakedFury	yes
01:01	sema4	i can set stone without prefixing default:
01:01	NakedFury	desert sand and stone
01:01	NakedFury	cant do them
01:01	sema4	interesting
01:01	NakedFury	I can do stone, cobble fine
01:01	NakedFury	dirt too
01:01	sema4	oh
01:01	sema4	so just desert_*
01:01	sema4	i will look in the lua tonight and see
01:02	sema4	i had never tried to actually place any desert_sand
01:02	NakedFury	also wished that //replace water air or whatever worked for both water versions. didnt have to type water_source or _flowing
01:02	NakedFury	be right back, got to cook food
01:04	sema4	bbl
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01:36	NakedFury	ok eating done
01:36	Uberi	me too :)
01:37	VanessaE	'bout damn time.
01:37	VanessaE	:-)
01:38	Uberi	o/ VanessaE
01:38	Uberi	have you seen the latest WorldEdit? it fixes a critical bug in rotation
01:39	* Uberi	must remember to post about it once the forums are back up
01:40	VanessaE	I pulled from your git repo yesterday actually
01:40	Uberi	ah, a day too early :P
01:41	VanessaE	I'll bring it in now.
01:41	VanessaE	done.
01:43	Uberi	\o/
01:44	NakedFury	uberi: is it possibly to have a //movecopy version command that works like Move but doesnt actually remove what you wanted to move but sort of copies and pastes it
01:45	Uberi	NakedFury: try //copy
01:45	Uberi	(same syntax as //move)
01:45	NakedFury	all this time and it was copy
01:45	NakedFury	dammit
01:45	NakedFury	thanks
01:45	Uberi	:P
01:45	Uberi	no problem :)
01:46	NakedFury	ohh I got one. list of all schematics saved or present in the folder for that world
01:47	Uberi	hmm, lua doesn't have a way to do that I think
01:47	Uberi	(list all files in a folder, I mean)
01:47	NakedFury	but we can do /mods
01:47	NakedFury	and it shows all that you use
01:48	NakedFury	cant do something similar?
01:51	Uberi	NakedFury: well lua doesn't have that because it only supports the ANSI C spec, which does not specify the file listing functionality
01:51	Uberi	the only real way to do it is to parse the output of something like dir/ls, and that is a hack I don't want to think about :P
01:51	NakedFury	ohh ok
01:53	cy1	Uberi: http://keplerproject.github.com/luafilesystem/ ? :3
01:54	Uberi	heh, that library is way bigger than WorldEdit itself
01:54	NakedFury	LuaFileSystem offers a portable way to access the underlying directory structure and file attributes.
01:54	NakedFury	that is what we would need?
01:55	Uberi	yeah, something like that
01:55	Uberi	but I'm hesitant to include something that's twice as large as WorldEdit
01:55	NakedFury	how big is the size?
01:55	Uberi	tell you what, I'll give parsing dir/ls output a shot, and see how that goes
01:56	NakedFury	do you play or have minecraft? if you do does your inspiration for this mod come from the same name mod in that game?
01:57	Uberi	NakedFury: I play vanilla minecraft, yes
01:57	Uberi	but the inspiration comes mostly from sfan5's original mod
01:57	Uberi	the additions were just my own ideas and the community's
01:58	NakedFury	http://www.voxelwiki.com/minecraft/VoxelSniper something like that would be hard to do?
01:58	NakedFury	long range editing with a tool. sort of point and click
01:58	NakedFury	with shapes
01:59	Uberi	NakedFury: oh yeah I was working on that too, I already wrote the raycasting implementation
01:59	NakedFury	I have seen some pretty amazing land created with that
01:59	NakedFury	and its so fast too
02:00	NakedFury	I wonder why for this mods they dont take some time to create a nice ingame menu screen with all the commands. all this /commands learning ticks me off
02:01	mauvebic	tools that make shapes?
02:01	NakedFury	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWFi0lOCCYM
02:01	NakedFury	video^
02:01	NakedFury	in actio
02:01	NakedFury	n
02:01	Uberi	NakedFury: worldedit GUI was supposed to do that
02:01	Uberi	but man the code is so messy I have to rewrite it
02:02	mauvebic	multinode has a GUI but no such tools to make shapes
02:02	NakedFury	there is a chance to even make that GUI look like if you were using a vector or paint type program
02:02	Uberi	mauvebic: really? that's awesome
02:02	NakedFury	they have a smooth command too
02:02	mauvebic	ok in the video, is he shooting bullets?
02:02	NakedFury	no
02:02	mauvebic	gimme a sec
02:03	NakedFury	just pointing
02:03	NakedFury	no actual shooting bullets or stuff
02:03	mauvebic	https://sites.google.com/site/mauvemods/home/using-multinode (GUI snaps)
02:03	mauvebic	it doesnt look like a paint program tho :/
02:03	mauvebic	he's pointing but why isnt it forming in mid air then nakedfury?
02:03	Uberi	so basically what I have is an infinite distance pointing
02:04	NakedFury	it starts working on the cubes he points
02:04	NakedFury	no midair stuff
02:04	mauvebic	oooh
02:04	NakedFury	that I know off
02:04	mauvebic	we can't point from a great distance though
02:04	mauvebic	it would be easier for me to tweak my guns
02:04	mauvebic	one of them already makes spheres of air
02:04	mauvebic	change that for sand, stone, wtv
02:05	NakedFury	ok found the command Uberi. same video at time 4:10 he will start to paint or something the stone to dirt
02:05	Uberi	mauvebic: nah I wrote a raycaster in Lua
02:05	mauvebic	query, what is 'raycaster'? sounds like a DJ
02:05	Uberi	mauvebic: it has perfect accuracy to within the float range
02:05	Uberi	mauvebic: it's an algorithm that performs supercover over the voxel grid to find the first node a ray intersects
02:06	mauvebic	aaahh
02:06	mauvebic	and we have that in minetest?
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02:06	Uberi	well it's lua, here's the gist: https://gist.github.com/3125280
02:06	mauvebic	hmm well i could also approximate the experience of the video by making the bullets invis and super fast
02:06	NakedFury	http://www.voxelwiki.com/minecraft/VoxelSniper#Making_Your_First_Snipe    Sniping for Dummies
02:07	Uberi	mauvebic: would that work if the server was lagging and the dtime was such that the entity was passing through nodes?
02:07	Uberi	btw, nice GUI!
02:07	mauvebic	thx its still missing a few things (and little room for it lol)
02:08	mauvebic	well the bullets flying through nodes thing doesnt happen too often on my end
02:08	mauvebic	20 terminators in a cage couldn't get me lol
02:09	mauvebic	that would be cool, a "terrain gun" lol
02:09	NakedFury	this was the replace: http://www.voxelwiki.com/minecraft/VoxelSniper#Selective_Sniping:_The_Voxel_Replace_Function
02:09	NakedFury	mauvebic: the terraformer
02:09	NakedFury	m15
02:09	mauvebic	my 'blaster' rifle shoots spheres of air to simulate damage, all you need is a chat command to change the value of air to something else
02:10	mauvebic	though if i could tie it into the GUI it would be better
02:10	mauvebic	choose your node from there
02:10	Uberi	yes!
02:11	mauvebic	better still
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02:11	VanessaE	evening neko.
02:11	mauvebic	have it work like throwing, you place your node next to the gun, and it forms that
02:11	Uberi	hey NekoGloop
02:11	* NekoGloop	puts a kitten on VanessaE's head
02:11	* NekoGloop	puts a kitten on Uberi's head
02:11	Uberi	hey that's a neat idea, mauvebic
02:11	* VanessaE	snuggles with the kitten
02:12	mauvebic	yeah that could be cool to edit terrains super fast
02:12	* Uberi	suddenly has a kitten on the head
02:12	Muadtralk	oh noes kittens!
02:12	Muadtralk	my one weakness
02:12	NekoGloop	xD
02:12	* Muadtralk	dies
02:12	* NekoGloop	puts a kitten on sdzen's head
02:13	* VanessaE	piles sleeping kittens around Muadtralk
02:13	* Muadtralk	is already dead from being near kittens
02:13	* Uberi	thinks NekoGloop made a kitten generator
02:13	Uberi	Lava + Water + ??? = Kitten
02:13	Muadtralk	! thats it!
02:13	VanessaE	Uberi: Lava + water + mese + junglegrass of course.
02:14	Uberi	:O
02:14	Muadtralk	thats what my lava and water should do!
02:14	Uberi	/giveme default:nyancat
02:14	Muadtralk	make nyancats!
02:14	NekoGloop	minetest.register_recipe(output="nekogloop:kitten",recipe="default:dirt")
02:14	Uberi	done!
02:14	NekoGloop	=w=
02:15	VanessaE	yay!  forums work again
02:15	Uberi	woo
02:15	NekoGloop	Minecraft forums were murdering my internet.
02:16	NekoGloop	Literally. I'd visit the website, modem loses internet.
02:16	Uberi	am I the only one who got logged out?
02:16	NakedFury	so Uberi, mauvebic: verdict- sniping world editing could work? plus some shapes
02:17	Uberi	yes, NakedFury
02:17	mauvebic	well im gonna try it the gun/throwing method :-)
02:17	NakedFury	+1 for minetest's future!
02:17	mauvebic	though for things like toruses better off using the generator
02:17	Muadtralk	+1 for a new gravity system
02:18	Muadtralk	anyone?
02:18	Uberi	gravity system?
02:18	NakedFury	you did it or want it?
02:18	mauvebic	what new system
02:18	mauvebic	yeah lol
02:18	NakedFury	if you did YAY if want it then kay, we too
02:19	Muadtralk	want it
02:19	mauvebic	hmm, simple, make all nodes falling nodes lol
02:19	NekoGloop	No...
02:19	NekoGloop	He means for players.
02:19	Muadtralk	doesnt work out anyway
02:19	Uberi	:O
02:19	NakedFury	include physics for blocks? ambitious
02:19	Muadtralk	falling lava messes up
02:19	Uberi	yeah BlockPlanet already had physics for players
02:19	Uberi	I wonder if the patch is still valid
02:20	mauvebic	i dont like how liquids work period lol
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02:20	mauvebic	so yeah might as well do the whole physics
02:20	mauvebic	but technically a node with no physical means of support should fall
02:20	Muadtralk	yes it should
02:20	Muadtralk	no matter what it is
02:20	mauvebic	you could then add a group antigrav for nodes that shouldn't fall
02:21	Uberi	mauvebic: but then how will I make piston airships? :P
02:21	Uberi	those things are awesome
02:21	NekoGloop	With special blocks.
02:21	mauvebic	antigrav nodes
02:21	Muadtralk	and very complex support systems within it
02:21	mauvebic	place them under your airship, then the nodes ontop are supported, even invisibly
02:22	mauvebic	gravity is **** to setup though lol
02:22	mauvebic	its about as tough as moving a large group of nodes
02:23	mauvebic	water, at sea level should fill in all empty spaces
02:24	mauvebic	when i blow up entire continents i endup with these cubic oceans :p
02:25	Muadtralk	oh!!
02:26	Muadtralk	and have the moon effect currents!
02:26	NekoGloop	XD
02:26	Uberi	:O
02:26	mauvebic	water reflections?
02:26	Uberi	and simulate individual air particles bouncing with each other!
02:26	NekoGloop	this^
02:26	NakedFury	tide?
02:26	NekoGloop	The above.
02:26	Uberi	and simulate a digestion system for the player!
02:26	Muadtralk	also atomic structure under a vacuum!
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02:27	Uberi	and a more realistic health system that gives you diabetes if you only eat cake all the time!
02:27	NekoGloop	...
02:27	mauvebic	lol
02:27	NekoGloop	wat is this i dun evern...
02:27	Muadtralk	and AIDs if you interact to much with the NPC's
02:27	Uberi	O_o
02:27	Uberi	bwahahaha
02:27	Muadtralk	or genital herpes
02:28	Muadtralk	your choice
02:28	NekoGloop	i'm going to go wash my screen off now.
02:28	Muadtralk	how about instead of respawning there could be reincarnation
02:28	Muadtralk	you come back as a newborn infant
02:29	Uberi	perfect!
02:29	Muadtralk	and brutally murder your parents
02:29	Uberi	and all the keys are swapped around
02:29	Uberi	and you have to learn how to control the player again
02:29	Muadtralk	a new way to survive!
02:32	Muadtralk	also when you get hit you break a bone or get wounded
02:33	Muadtralk	which slows your movements
02:33	Uberi	permanently
02:33	Muadtralk	or slowly damages you
02:33	Muadtralk	until you can seek medical assistance of a sort
02:34	cy1	wow I'm having so much fun with this genital herpes
02:34	cy1	can I catch it twice?
02:34	cy1	for double herpes?
02:35	Muadtralk	possibly
02:35	* cy1	writes the diarrhea mod, and then upgrades it to superdiarrhea
02:37	Muadtralk	actually it is possible to write a mod that drops a fecal entity after a certain amount of time next to the player
02:38	VanessaE	http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4057
02:38	VanessaE	\o/
02:39	Muadtralk	am i being disgusting?
02:39	VanessaE	yes.
02:39	Muadtralk	ever so sorry
02:39	Uberi	bodies are disgusting, yes
02:39	Muadtralk	people are just as disgusting
02:39	Uberi	yet we live in them every day
02:40	Uberi	VanessaE: no command blocks?
02:40	VanessaE	it ain't the body or its functions that are disgusting - it's what one does with them that is.
02:40	VanessaE	Uberi: as I understand, they open up a huge security vulnerability
02:40	Uberi	they do?
02:40	Muadtralk	security?
02:40	Uberi	I should fix them if that's the case
02:40	Muadtralk	do we not have norton security?
02:40	Uberi	what is the issue?
02:40	NekoGloop	/set
02:41	telek	Anybody play Dominions I think it was called by Illwinter Games?
02:41	NekoGloop	/shutdown
02:41	mauvebic	nakedfury http://www.zimg.eu/i/59561593
02:41	NekoGloop	Etc.
02:41	VanessaE	uberi: I am unsure, I just recall reading it somewhere on forums.
02:41	Uberi	darn, time to go for the forum search then
02:41	telek	It actually had persistent injuries for either all, or all hero units.
02:41	Uberi	nice one, mauvebic
02:41	mauvebic	except the mapgen kicked in on its own on top lol
02:42	mauvebic	been doing that for awhile now whenever i add alot of nodes at once
02:42	NakedFury	nice
02:44	NakedFury	after doing that to make land masses and mountains we need http://www.voxelwiki.com/minecraft/VoxelSniper#Voxel_Replace
02:44	mauvebic	ideally i need to expand abit and have the gun come with all sorts of presets for difeerent shapes
02:44	mauvebic	randomization would be cool too (perlin nose?)
02:45	NakedFury	and a smooth feature
02:45	NekoGloop	Do the pandora's box mod.
02:45	Uberi	darn can't find anything about the command block security issue
02:45	mauvebic	brb gotta finish the dishes while water is tepid lol
03:00	mauvebic	how would a smooth terrain function work?
03:02	NekoGloop	Magic.
03:03	* NekoGloop	puts a kitten on mauvebic's head
03:04	VanessaE	well you could always make several nodes out of nodeboxes (hundreds thereof) and fake it
03:04	NakedFury	http://www.voxelwiki.com/minecraft/VoxelSniper#Terraforming_Brushes
03:04	VanessaE	like jeija's slopes mod but with less resolution
03:04	NakedFury	its in that section
03:06	mauvebic	hmm
03:06	mauvebic	id have to hookup multinode to a spherical selection area
03:07	mauvebic	it seems to work by performing tons of little operations like raising or lowering terrain by 1 node a tatime
03:07	NakedFury	ohh and the Overlay/Topsoil brush is what I was saying about spraypainting: The Overlay Brush will "spray-paint" the top most blocks in its area to the blocktype set by your "/v" command. This can be used to easily clean up any exposed materials once you are done with the erosion brush, or to create new fill material two link two pieces of landscape together.
03:08	mauvebic	like dumping a single layer of grass ontop of stone
03:08	NakedFury	yes
03:08	mauvebic	that would mean, for a spherical area, to check every non-air node to see if theres air on top
03:08	NakedFury	dumping or replacin that top layer with the grass dirt
03:09	mauvebic	the bigger the brush, the more lag though
03:09	NakedFury	extremely necesary for teraforming
03:09	NakedFury	was that picture you posted earlier laggy to make of did minetest process that fast>
03:09	NakedFury	?
03:09	mauvebic	no that was fast
03:10	mauvebic	it doesnt check nodes it just dumps spheres of them
03:10	mauvebic	the complex actions would need more CPU power
03:10	NakedFury	well nothing to do but test how fast it does them
03:10	mauvebic	a terrain lower, terrain raise, and terrain flatten seem like the most obvious to start with?
03:11	mauvebic	and then terrain dump for things like grass
03:13	NakedFury	how would you do the commands? short as in letters like in voxelsniper /b cs 0 [example] or something like /smooth or complete words?
03:13	mauvebic	maybe even a regenerate brush to refill stone with minerals
03:13	mauvebic	i was thinking different color-coded guns for different tools
03:13	mauvebic	as few chat commands as possible
03:13	mauvebic	basically /brush (for size) and /terrain (for selection node)
03:14	NakedFury	ohh different tools could work too
03:14	mauvebic	and the two chat commands i could convert to a GUI attached to the inventory
03:14	NekoGloop	Or we could finally get a damn rightclick hook
03:14	RealBadAngel	i just ported matrix and vector library, some of you may find it useable
03:15	RealBadAngel	http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4059
03:15	NakedFury	matrix and vector library? what do they do?
03:15	RealBadAngel	provide all the math functions for matrices
03:16	RealBadAngel	i needed that for L-Systems plants generation
03:16	NakedFury	if its a library the tag MOD should be replaced for Library.
03:17	NakedFury	would be better
03:17	NekoGloop	So, got the pipes working yet, rba?
03:17	RealBadAngel	good point
03:18	NekoGloop	You've been avoiding working on technic.
03:19	VanessaE	ho ho ho
03:19	VanessaE	he's been working his ass off on it :-)
03:19	RealBadAngel	i was busy with other stuff
03:19	cy1	mauvebic: how about like in minecraft's worldedit, where you can submit a list of types/frequencies to /set? //set stone/10,mineral_silver/5,air/3 or something
03:19	cy1	pipes suck :p
03:19	* NekoGloop	puts a kitten in a santa suit on VanessaE's head
03:19	cy1	teleporters would make more sense than pipes
03:19	RealBadAngel	btw, ive updated technic today with some fixes and changes
03:19	RealBadAngel	also UI got updated
03:20	* VanessaE	tosses the santa suit aside, snuggles with the kitten, then hands it off to cy1
03:20	cy1	nya?
03:20	NekoGloop	:<
03:20	RealBadAngel	all alloy and grinding recipes are now viewable in crafting guide
03:20	cy1	sweet!
03:20	cy1	alloy/grinding had me confused, since you can alloy ingots or dust the same.
03:20	RealBadAngel	you need to update both technic and UI for it to work
03:21	* NekoGloop	puts another kitten in a santa suit on VanessaE's head
03:21	mauvebic	cyl what do you mean?
03:21	cy1	mauvebic: like, 1 iron dust + 1 chromium dust = 1 stainless steel dust, but also 1 iron (steel) ingot + 1 chromium ingot = 1 stainless steel ingot.
03:21	cy1	It's great just confused  me at first.
03:22	RealBadAngel	its logical
03:22	cy1	otherwise chromium ingots would be c-o-m-p-l-e-t-e-l-y useless
03:22	NakedFury	cy1 that was for RBA not mauvebic I think
03:22	mauvebic	is confused yeah lol
03:22	NekoGloop	You should be able to grind ingots to dust.
03:23	RealBadAngel	dust primary usage is to double the income
03:24	RealBadAngel	and the recipes you mentioned are equal
03:24	RealBadAngel	just another way to get the same
03:25	NekoGloop	Should take a more IC2 approach with your wiring btw.
03:25	NekoGloop	Make it work from all sides.
03:27	NakedFury	or work from Back and bottom sides
03:27	NekoGloop	Or just work from all sides god damn it.
03:27	cy1	yeah but then you don't have to figure out where the plug goes :c
03:28	NakedFury	ew no would look atrocious
03:28	NakedFury	pluggin a furnace from the front
03:28	NakedFury	ew
03:28	NekoGloop	How about from the side?
03:28	NekoGloop	That's like 2 wires not wasted stupidly due to some idiot's enforced rules.
03:28	NakedFury	could work if the side doesnt have fancy texture stuff
03:29	NakedFury	wow you never fail to insult
03:29	NekoGloop	I take inspiration from rba himself.
03:31	NekoGloop	^yet another time i didnt fail to insult the imbecile.
03:31	NekoGloop	^oh look, another
03:32	NekoGloop	ain't i just excellent at that.
03:35	RealBadAngel	bottom and shut up :P
03:35	RealBadAngel	thx for your cooperation :)
03:35	VanessaE	NekoGloop: btw, your gloopblocks are starting to find use on my server :-)
03:35	NekoGloop	Just for the nyancats, i bet.
03:36	VanessaE	heh, no I don't think it was that
03:40	VanessaE	actually it was blocks and gloopores...  someone was collecting akalin and coal, someone else was building using obsidian
03:41	NekoGloop	Oh right, i did make igneous rocks didnt i
03:41	VanessaE	yup
03:41	VanessaE	obsidian, pumice, basalt.
03:41	NekoGloop	All three with ugly ass textures.
03:41	VanessaE	actually, they look fine to me.
03:41	NekoGloop	>ugly ass textures
03:42	NekoGloop	How does a distorted version of eloramm's already crappy basalt look fine?!
03:42	VanessaE	because it just...does?
03:42	VanessaE	you can't exactly do that much in 16px you know :-)
03:42	Muadtralk	yes you can
03:42	NekoGloop	Oh yes you can
03:43	VanessaE	ok, you can, but with a stone texture? difficult at best.
03:43	NekoGloop	My texture pack was going to prove that until i found out i'm just plain shit at texturing.
03:43	VanessaE	since you want stone to be more or less even and tileable, you have to keep your detail low.
03:43	Muadtralk	or
03:43	Muadtralk	your skill level over 9000
03:43	NakedFury	mauvebic if you need testers tell me
03:45	* NekoGloop	puts a kitten on NakedFury's head
03:45	NakedFury	my dog would get jelous
03:45	NakedFury	jelouse?
03:45	NekoGloop	jealous*
03:45	NakedFury	jealous
03:46	mauvebic	nakedfury i could upload what i have
03:46	NakedFury	can your version of worldedit work with uberi and sfans?
03:47	mauvebic	shouldn't conflict
03:48	mauvebic	all the chat commands are diferent, single slash, GUI's tied into the nodes, not the inventory
03:49	NakedFury	better yet
03:49	youlysses	So do mods go in ~/.minetest/Mods/ , or?
03:49	NakedFury	yes
03:52	VanessaE	heh.  Landmine just joined my server..
03:52	NekoGloop	Pfft.
03:52	VanessaE	youlysses: ~/.minetest/mods/minetest
03:53	NekoGloop	Ban his IP here and on your server.
03:53	NekoGloop	Can't hurt.
03:53	VanessaE	no need, I just won't bother granting him interact :-)
03:53	NekoGloop	His client ignores that.
03:54	VanessaE	my server doesn't/
03:54	NekoGloop	His client doesnt give a shit
03:56	VanessaE	it's up to the server whether to allow building, and he's begging for interact, so I expect that problem has since been solved.
03:56	NekoGloop	Ah.
03:57	NekoGloop	Can't tell if he's trolling or just plain stupid? ;)
03:57	VanessaE	heh
03:57	VanessaE	22:57:25: ACTION[ServerThread]: CHAT: <LandMine> can i have interact privs please!!!!
03:57	VanessaE	22:57:35: ACTION[ServerThread]: CHAT: <LandMine> ask oldcoder im good now :(
03:57	VanessaE	oh ho ho ho
03:57	VanessaE	OldCoder: care to comment on this?
03:57	* NekoGloop	gives VanessaE a kitten to put on LandMine's head
03:58	VanessaE	done. :-)
03:58	NekoGloop	Did you tell him it was me? :3
03:59	VanessaE	22:58:49: ACTION[ServerThread]: CHAT: <LandMine> nekogloop is a depresed crazy person
03:59	VanessaE	heh
03:59	NekoGloop	He's not even talking directly to me and is still managing to be a snotnosed little brat.
03:59	VanessaE	yup
04:00	VanessaE	he doesn't know I'm relaying commentary between here and there :-)
04:00	NekoGloop	Prolly not
04:00	* NekoGloop	gives VanessaE the box of kittens. Pass it on ;)
04:02	cy1	huh was I on Calinou's server before...? says invalid password...
04:03	NekoGloop	What did he say to the box of kittens? :3
04:03	VanessaE	that WAS his response.
04:03	VanessaE	then he left the server.
04:04	NekoGloop	Oh.
04:04	NekoGloop	Well then.
04:04	* NekoGloop	puts the box of kittens in VanessaE's lap
04:04	* VanessaE	sets the box aside
04:04	VanessaE	no more kittens tonight
04:05	NekoGloop	:<<<<<<
04:05	VanessaE	don't get me wrong, they're cute but it's way past their bedtime :-)
04:05	VanessaE	let the poor things sleep
04:05	NekoGloop	They are sleeping :>
04:06	RBA_afk	cya
04:06	mauvebic	funtime http://www.zimg.eu/i/3797419596
04:06	VanessaE	night RBA.
04:06	RBA_afk	what night, goin to work :)
04:06	VanessaE	ok, have fun at work :-)
04:06	NekoGloop	Now make them spawn naturally, mauvebic.
04:06	mauvebic	well no im doing nakedfury's idea about the voxelthingies
04:07	NakedFury	well its late and I must sleep, good night. gonna keep testing them for errors mauvebic
04:07	* NekoGloop	too
04:07	NekoGloop	Night night
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04:07	mauvebic	thx & nighty night
04:12	OldCoder	VanessaE, PM
04:13	VanessaE	ok
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04:33	davidpace	Hi All.
04:34	davidpace	celeron55: Do you happen to know why the forums went down?
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04:50	Aqua	Hello
04:50	VanessaE	hi Aqua
04:50	Aqua	Can i have privalages for your servrer?
04:50	VanessaE	oh sure, sec.
04:51	VanessaE	done :-)
04:52	Aqua	Can i protect an area?
04:52	VanessaE	sure
04:52	VanessaE	coords?
04:52	Aqua	how large can it be?
04:53	VanessaE	any size as long as you intend to use the area of course.
04:53	Aqua	is this right?
04:53	Aqua	vanessae.mine.bz
04:53	VanessaE	you'll need to sign back on though so I can do that
04:53	VanessaE	yes.
04:54	Aqua	I'm trying
04:54	VanessaE	you're there.
04:54	VanessaE	just taking a while to load I guess :-)
04:54	Aqua	im still on the definition screen
04:55	Aqua	i got on before then i pressed f10 and it just forze
04:55	Aqua	froze*
04:55	VanessaE	F10 is buggy.  don't use it.
04:55	Aqua	yep that happened in 0.4.1
04:56	Aqua	in 0.4.3 it worked and now its borken again
04:56	VanessaE	it's always been broken for me.
04:56	VanessaE	celeron55 says the problem is somewhere in irrlicht.
04:56	Aqua	It keeps not responding!
04:56	VanessaE	there you are.
04:57	davidpace	Uhh I have a suggestion
04:57	VanessaE	hm?
04:57	Aqua	oh hello
04:57	davidpace	When Pressing F10 when it does freeze, all you need to do is hit escape
04:57	VanessaE	Aqua: /msg me with the coords you want to protect
04:57	Aqua	no the whole game freezes for some people
04:58	davidpace	Yes I know it does for me too
04:58	davidpace	But when you hit ecape it fixes and runs smooth again
04:58	davidpace	It should work if you do that, It works for me at least
04:59	Aqua	protect 500, -100,500 600,100,600 for now please
04:59	VanessaE	davidpace: for many of us, F10 outright crashes the game and causes it to exit to the OS.
04:59	VanessaE	(so Esc. would end up going to the desktop in that case :-) )
04:59	VanessaE	Aqua: sure, etc.
04:59	VanessaE	er..
04:59	VanessaE	Aqua: sure, sec.
04:59	davidpace	Uhhh Okay....
05:00	Aqua	david
05:00	davidpace	Ohh I see the problem then, You guys have OS and stuff, I have windows :-)
05:00	davidpace	Yea Aqua?
05:00	Aqua	ummm.....os is operating system windows is an os......
05:01	Aqua	you should try making a mod
05:01	VanessaE	davidpace: what that means is the game exits back to your operating system, whether it means windows or linux or whatever
05:02	davidpace	Oh sorry, I was looking at something else atm,.Okay, My Noob mistake Aqua
05:02	davidpace	Aqua, are you saying I should try making a mod?
05:03	Aqua	Yes, why not?
05:03	davidpace	Because I have no clue how to.
05:03	Aqua	Just relized using my Aqua name again
05:03	VanessaE	Aqua: done.
05:03	Aqua	YAY
05:03	davidpace	And I don't know any kind of language
05:03	Aqua	lua is simple
05:04	Aqua	check out jeija, infinityproject or my moddinghelper
05:04	Aqua	Thanks
05:04	davidpace	I've already tried looking at your moddinghelper
05:05	davidpace	I didn't spend more then 3 minutes on it but it didn't help
05:05	Aqua	Did you understand?
05:05	davidpace	Not much no
05:05	Aqua	why not?
05:06	davidpace	I didn't take a lot of time on it
05:06	davidpace	I also don't have a lot of time to work on mods. I can create decent textures, but not mods
05:09	Aqua	Normally for me the textures take longer :-)
05:09	davidpace	Okay...
05:09	Aqua	Good Textures*
05:10	Aqua	Can you make some textures for me
05:10	davidpace	Like what?
05:11	Aqua	Plastic ladders and fences
05:11	Aqua	its simple just paint it a bit white and grey
05:11	Aqua	Please
05:11	davidpace	Plastic Ladders, And Plastic Fences?
05:11	Aqua	yes
05:12	davidpace	Hmph
05:12	Aqua	I'll add you to the credits
05:12	davidpace	I dunno how long it'd take me to do it
05:12	davidpace	Umm, how soon do you need it done by?
05:12	davidpace	Do you want me to make it realistic or pixelated?
05:12	Aqua	Tomorow 6 aest
05:13	Aqua	Realistic, jusst get the default textures in the minetest game and colour it white
05:13	davidpace	Eastern Time?
05:13	Aqua	and grey\
05:13	davidpace	You're In Whales Australie right?
05:13	Aqua	austrailian eastern standard time
05:13	Aqua	?
05:13	Aqua	You mean New south wales?
05:14	davidpace	ye
05:14	davidpace	ss
05:14	davidpace	Sorry
05:14	Aqua	lol
05:14	Aqua	If you can do it, that'll be great
05:14	davidpace	Hmmm, okay I'll try to, hang on a minute though.
05:15	davidpace	What time right now is it for you?
05:16	Aqua	4:15
05:16	Aqua	pm
05:16	Aqua	You?
05:16	davidpace	Alright, So tomorrow right?
05:16	davidpace	11:16 PM
05:16	davidpace	So around 1:30 AM for mew
05:16	davidpace	*Me
05:17	davidpace	I'll try.
05:17	davidpace	How will I get the textures to you Aqua?
05:17	davidpace	dropbox?
05:17	Aqua	yeh anything
05:18	Aqua	preferably omploader
05:18	davidpace	You know how to use dropbox right?
05:18	davidpace	Oh, idk how to use omploader
05:18	Aqua	yeh ive got an account
05:19	davidpace	Alright, In case I don't see you here tonight, I need your name on dropbox and email
05:19	Aqua	jusst go on the website, click browse, select folder, and click ompload then copy and paste link. simple
05:19	Aqua	pure100awesomenessgmail.com
05:20	Aqua	and Aqua
05:20	Aqua	or maybe s
05:20	Aqua	ShiftyCake
05:20	davidpace	Alright, I think I will do omp
05:20	davidpace	hold on though
05:21	davidpace	Try this link, tell me what you see: [url=http://ompldr.org/vZ285eQ][img]http://ompldr.org/tZ285eQ[/img][/url]
05:21	Aqua	a dog
05:21	davidpace	:) Yay
05:21	VanessaE	ok, bbl.  I need sleep.
05:21	davidpace	Alright it works
05:21	Aqua	Cya
05:22	davidpace	See ya VE
05:22	Aqua	but just copy the http: part no need the things in the bracket
05:22	davidpace	Aqua, thats all I need to do when I give you the link for the picture tomorrow?
05:22	davidpace	ok
05:22	Aqua	yep see the link is in there two times...
05:22	Aqua	I have to go ttoo cya
05:23	davidpace	Alright BYE
05:23	Aqua	Bye
05:23	davidpace	Cya
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05:24	davidpace	Hi Neko
05:24	davidpace	Bye Neko
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07:02	OldCoder	VanessaE, thexyz, marktraceur, celeron55, mrtux My switch to 0.4.4 is in progress. I'll test everything using new worlds temporarily before updating the old ones.
07:02	OldCoder	RBA_afk, see above
07:02	* VanessaE	is back for a while.  can't sleep.
07:03	OldCoder	VanessaE, may I have the latest vanessa_game and world then?
07:03	OldCoder	For testing with 0.4.4
07:05	VanessaE	sure, gimme a sec.
07:06	VanessaE	http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/vanessa_game.zip
07:07	OldCoder	Got it
07:07	OldCoder	Is the world current?
07:07	VanessaE	hold and I'll upload that too.
07:08	celeron55	06:57:31 < VanessaE> celeron55 says the problem is somewhere in irrlicht.
07:08	celeron55	i have never had any problems with the console
07:09	VanessaE	when I last asked, you said that it was somewhere "deep inside" irrlicht.
07:09	celeron55	and i have said the problems with the chat input thing are probably in irrlicht
07:11	VanessaE	OldCoder: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/My_World_server.zip
07:11	OldCoder	R
07:11	OldCoder	VanessaE, got it ty
07:12	VanessaE	hm, looks like you were talking about the chat input box, not the console.  my bad.
07:13	VanessaE	(had to dig through my logs)
07:13	VanessaE	nevertheless, it's a bug and a lot of people have been bit by it :-)
07:17	OldCoder	VanessaE:
07:17	OldCoder	-minetest.register_craft( {
07:17	OldCoder	-       output              = 'doors:door_wood',
07:17	OldCoder	-       recipe = {
07:17	OldCoder	-               { 'default:wood', 'default:wood' },
07:17	OldCoder	-               { 'default:wood', 'default:wood' },
07:17	OldCoder	-               { 'default:wood', 'default:wood' },
07:17	OldCoder	That patch is no longer needed with 0.4.4 ?
07:17	VanessaE	0.4.4 got a rewrite of the doors mod, the recipe should still work though.
07:17	OldCoder	Actually the patch removes that
07:17	VanessaE	(I use xdoors2 though)
07:17	OldCoder	This patch is needed  if and only if the  default  "doors" mod is used
07:17	OldCoder	in conjunction with the "xdoors2" extension mod.
07:18	OldCoder	Question is whether I need to update the patch for 0.4.4
07:18	VanessaE	dunno
07:19	OldCoder	ty
07:19	OldCoder	Looks like patch is needed
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07:49	OldCoder	congestion_control_aim_rtt = 0.2
07:49	OldCoder	congestion_control_max_rate = 400
07:49	OldCoder	congestion_control_min_rate = 10
07:49	OldCoder	VanessaE, use these? ^
07:50	VanessaE	those are the defaults.  I'm not convinced that they have any appreciable effect on the server
07:50	VanessaE	but,
07:50	VanessaE	I did set congestion_control_min_rate = 50
07:50	VanessaE	and left the other two alone
07:50	OldCoder	So the speed issue is not corrected?
07:51	VanessaE	dunno.
07:51	OldCoder	k
07:51	VanessaE	I guess not really
07:51	OldCoder	k
07:51	VanessaE	between mapgen lagging from ore generation and lagging from trees springing up and the network code itself lagging, I'm not sure anymore.
07:52	VanessaE	RealBadAngel is going to take a crack at a more efficient tree routine that can replace conifers and jungle trees (and add some new ones)
07:52	OldCoder	k
07:52	VanessaE	we'll see how that turns out.
07:54	cy1	OldCoder: my tree laying isn't hurting your world is it?
07:54	OldCoder	Hmm?
07:54	cy1	I'm p. much tired of it anyway.
07:54	OldCoder	I haven't heard any complaints
07:54	cy1	Oh I thought you were complaining about it just now.
07:54	OldCoder	Might be fine
07:54	OldCoder	No
07:54	OldCoder	Network issue
07:54	cy1	I'm trying to recreate my "witch's woods" :3
07:54	OldCoder	Have fun
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08:07	OldCoder	VanessaE, care to try a 0.4.4 client with your world on port 30017 ?
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08:08	VanessaE	shortly.
08:12	OldCoder	VanessaE, I will be falling asleep in about 90 seconds
08:12	OldCoder	So hope it works
08:13	OldCoder	Actually, I'd better back up the worlds
08:13	OldCoder	Shutting down for that
08:13	VanessaE	ok
08:17	OldCoder	VanessaE, try if you wish
08:17	VanessaE	I will check it out later
08:17	* OldCoder	shrugs
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08:17	OldCoder	Don't stay up too late
08:17	Aqua	Hello
08:18	OldCoder	Hi
08:18	* OldCoder	is asleep
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08:22	VanessaE	hi Dopium
08:25	Aqua	Hello
08:25	Dopium	ok i worked it out right infront of my face haha
08:25	Dopium	hi Aqua
08:27	VanessaE	haha
08:31	Dopium	http://cdn2.planetminecraft.com/files/resource_media/screenshot/1239/Minecraft-Steve_3697103_lrg.jpg
08:34	Dopium	http://i.imgur.com/Kbm5p.png
08:35	VanessaE	^^^ those were meant for me, btw.
08:36	VanessaE	OldCoder: that world is meant to run in creative mode, fwiw.
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09:00	* VanessaE	is off to bed, again...
09:00	VanessaE	night all.
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09:02	Aqua	cya
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09:25	Aqua	Hello
09:25	devlab	Sup?
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10:24	* devlab	wonders if an 'equivalent exchange' Minecraft mod exists for Minetest
10:26	cy1	devlab: yeah it's the edward_elric mod :B
10:27	devlab	...
10:35	devlab	Is PilzAdam on?
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11:03	Aqua
11:12	devlab	huh?
11:19	Aqua	Sorry
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11:51	RagnarLaud	hi ruskie
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11:57	RagnarLaud	hi
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12:07	RagnarLaud	hey is anybody even here, who talks?
12:10	ruskie	no
12:11	RagnarLaud	oh hi ruskie
12:11	RagnarLaud	:D
12:12	RagnarLaud	hey name something that gets passed around
12:17	ruskie	you?
12:23	RagnarLaud	nope...
12:23	RagnarLaud	A JOINT
12:23	RagnarLaud	im making one :D
12:24	RagnarLaud	i mean as a mod
12:24	RagnarLaud	there will be Marijuana, Pot, Cocaine, Bongs, Joints, Brownies etc
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12:28	swilde	hi *, is it known, that besides the "Weird attachment bug" there seems to be issues with dropped items in the 0.4.4 engine?  We (me and my friends/co-workers) experienced many stacks of items (stones etc.) suddenly appearing in the world, while others reported dropped items to disappear...
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13:00	RagnarLaud	hi
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13:03	RagnarLaud	hi yall!
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13:35	markveidemanis	HI
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13:58	* NekoGloop	sets down a plate of waffles
14:02	NekoGloop	Noone wanna waffle :<?
14:07	markveidemanis	wWwWwWwWwWwWwW
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14:08	KikaRz	Hi there pipolz :)
14:08	KikaRz	VanessaE, did you yesterday finished the counter?
14:14	iqualfragile	NekoGloop: you like blue waffle?
14:14	NekoGloop	No.
14:20	KikaRz	minetest randomly crashed
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14:34	RealBadAngel	hi
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14:38	iqualfragile	hi RealBadAngel
14:38	RealBadAngel	hi hi
14:39	KikaRz	RealBadAngel, i got problems when installing your unified inventory mod
14:39	KikaRz	says that init.lua is missing in textures folder
14:39	NekoGloop	http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&amp;v=ui9AAvEqae0
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14:59	KikaRz	!c 90+15
14:59	NekoGloop	The bot is still ignoring you
15:00	thexyz	well, Minetest-tan is not here
15:00	NekoGloop	Ah.
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15:00	NekoGloop	Fuck having no userlist
15:00	RealBadAngel	speakin of the devil ;)
15:01	NekoGloop	Yes, speaking of the devil, here is the reincarnation of him known as RealBadAngel.
15:01	Minetest-tan	GIT: PilzAdam (PilzAdam) commited to celeron55/minetest: Dont sneak while flying 9786202b08 2012-12-11T10:04:55-08:00
15:01	Minetest-tan	GIT: dannydark (DannyDark) commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Fix glass step sound 4763fa635a 2012-12-10T09:43:12-08:00
15:02	RealBadAngel	my nick speaks for itself :P
15:02	RealBadAngel	meanwhile, lets get some java converted to LUA
15:02	NekoGloop	gl hf
15:02	RealBadAngel	MATRIX time
15:03	devlab	what?
15:03	RealBadAngel	im doing L-Systems plant generation
15:03	RealBadAngel	it uses lotsa matrices and vector math
15:04	RealBadAngel	not really, im workin on implemented one, but in java
15:04	VanessaE	good morning all, just passing through.
15:04	VanessaE	KikaRz: yes, I finished it.
15:05	RealBadAngel	wb VanessaE
15:05	VanessaE	heh
15:05	RealBadAngel	like the Notch one?
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15:19	VanessaE	aw shit, c55 is here. everyone hide!
15:22	RealBadAngel	lol
15:22	RealBadAngel	hi celeron55
15:24	RealBadAngel	damn those trees, ive havent read so much math since studies lol
15:25	VanessaE	haha
15:25	RealBadAngel	im tryin to understand how it works in the first place
15:25	swilde	hi *, is it known, that besides the "Weird attachment bug" there seems to be issues with dropped items in the 0.4.4 engine?  We (me and my friends/co-workers) experienced many stacks of items (stones etc.) suddenly appearing in the world, while others reported dropped items to disappear...
15:26	VanessaE	swilde: not sure of that one, I can't say I've heard of it before
15:26	RealBadAngel	i guess its Taoki
15:26	RealBadAngel	she wanted attachments to be player wielded items
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15:27	RealBadAngel	so maybe she left there some code
15:27	VanessaE	RealBadAngel: and for carts/boats
15:27	RealBadAngel	that was side effect
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15:27	RealBadAngel	which actually works
15:27	Penguin	Hi
15:27	RealBadAngel	primary was to show what player is holding
15:28	VanessaE	RealBadAngel: right, but that part is as yet unimplemented.
15:28	RealBadAngel	lookin at bug reports i BET some code is here
15:29	RealBadAngel	it looks like a well implemented bug :)
15:30	RealBadAngel	seen a picture of a player with button in chest already :)
15:30	VanessaE	I was photographed wearing a cart some days ago :-)
15:30	VanessaE	and I've been seeing those attached to signs a lot lately.
15:31	RealBadAngel	if the code is here, which is 90%, it shall be finished
15:32	RealBadAngel	also, movin head according to yaw
15:33	RealBadAngel	it both sounds and looks funny indeed )
15:33	RealBadAngel	:)
15:34	RealBadAngel	rotfl
15:34	RealBadAngel	but in fact thats nothin new for her
15:34	RealBadAngel	she used to wear almost everythin already
15:36	RealBadAngel	next shockin vid by gaga will be propably shes dancing with toilets painted red, for better contrast
15:37	RealBadAngel	brown stufff will be blanked and non censored version will be played only after 10 pm
15:41	VanessaE	he
15:41	VanessaE	heh
15:41	RealBadAngel	talkin of so called "lady" gaga i wonder if they are borders that stars wont cross
15:42	RealBadAngel	*there
15:42	RealBadAngel	propably not
15:43	VanessaE	nope.  If there's money in it, they'll cross it
15:43	VanessaE	short of murder maybe
15:43	RealBadAngel	not quite sure
15:43	RealBadAngel	some are gettin money writin books in jail
15:44	RealBadAngel	or selling the rights to
15:45	VanessaE	heh
15:45	RealBadAngel	theres a never ending story here in poland now
15:45	RealBadAngel	young mother killed her child
15:46	VanessaE	we see those here as well, a lot moreso than should ever happen :-/
15:46	RealBadAngel	first she (through TV) asked for help, she claimed that her child was kidnapped
15:46	RealBadAngel	then after some time
15:46	RealBadAngel	they found a body
15:47	RealBadAngel	so she admitted she did that, and it was accident
15:47	RealBadAngel	then police arrested her
15:47	RealBadAngel	then they let her out, wait for trail
15:48	RealBadAngel	then experts said it was not an accident
15:48	RealBadAngel	so she got arrested again
15:48	VanessaE	hey sfan5.
15:48	sfan5	hi :d
15:48	sfan5	*:D
15:48	RealBadAngel	then another expert said they could be wrong
15:48	RealBadAngel	so they let her out again
15:48	paxcoder	RealBadAngel, lol
15:48	RealBadAngel	so she hid in some village
15:49	sfan5	RealBadAngel: xD
15:49	paxcoder	from?
15:49	RealBadAngel	after next shift in opinions they were lookin for her again
15:49	RealBadAngel	so shes now back in jail
15:50	RealBadAngel	and last week i heard some folks want to make a movie bout her story
15:50	RealBadAngel	and let her earn money for in fact death of her child
15:50	VanessaE	ohh brother.
15:50	RealBadAngel	imho shes guilty
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15:51	RealBadAngel	of course i cannot be sure
15:51	paxcoder	RealBadAngel, then we must let her go!
15:51	RealBadAngel	and wont play a judge
15:51	paxcoder	RealBadAngel, then we must arrest her again!
15:51	RealBadAngel	but the story, whats goin on about it
15:51	paxcoder	to the village!
15:51	RealBadAngel	its just CIRCUS
15:53	RealBadAngel	some are saying, we shall wonder what our premier has on mind, to let the public hear about that mother and child again
15:53	paxcoder	*prime minister
15:54	RealBadAngel	if he had again fucked up somethin and using this to force ppl lookin another way
15:54	RealBadAngel	paxcoder, yes
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15:55	RealBadAngel	in another direction i shal say propably ;)
15:56	RealBadAngel	most funny thing that women was fired from her job imadiately
15:56	RealBadAngel	so she went to work as a go-go dancer
15:56	* paxcoder	facepalms
15:57	RealBadAngel	tabloids found her there
15:57	RealBadAngel	and wrote about it
15:57	RealBadAngel	she was fired again
15:57	paxcoder	o.O
15:58	paxcoder	anyway star trek > star wars
15:59	VanessaE	agreed.
16:00	ruskie	++
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16:07	VanessaE	greetz, Zeg9.
16:07	Zeg9	Hello
16:17	iqualfragile	anybody using ipv6 here?
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16:25	PilzAdam	Hello everyone!
16:25	VanessaE	hey PilzAdam
16:25	iqualfragile	hello PilzAdam
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16:43	rubenwardy	hi all
16:43	Calinou	hi rubenwardy
16:44	Zeg9	hi
16:44	PilzAdam	Hello
16:45	VanessaE	greetz, Calinou and rubenwardy
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16:55	* Jordach	looks for the GTK settings in hexchat
16:56	mauvebic	mmmm coooffee
16:57	PilzAdam	I think i can merge this: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/62
16:57	moltenbot	PilzAdam's link: Add sounds to stairs and slabs by PilzAdam ? Pull Request #62 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub
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16:57	iqualfragile	https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1149
16:57	moltenbot	iqualfragile's link: RFC 1149 - Standard for the transmission of IP datagrams on avian carriers
16:59	iqualfragile	i found an implementation of that rfc
16:59	mauvebic	looks harmless enough
17:01	PilzAdam	Minetest-tan missed a commit
17:01	Minetest-tan	GIT: PilzAdam (PilzAdam) commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Add sounds to stairs and slabs c4f2bee9a6 2012-12-12T11:37:33-08:00
17:01	PilzAdam	heh
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17:02	iqualfragile	can "Provide a repository (git, hg)" be added to http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1271 ? Calinou VanessaE sfan5 thexyz
17:02	moltenbot	iqualfragile's link: Forum information and guidelines (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
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17:03	sema4	mornin' all.
17:03	iqualfragile	good morning sema4
17:03	thexyz	no
17:03	iqualfragile	phunny phunny
17:04	iqualfragile	thexyz: why not? it would be realy usefull
17:05	iqualfragile	or at least: provide a link wich allways points to a zip/tgz/whateverz of the newest version of your mod
17:05	Zeg9	Do animations work without bones in 0.4.4 ?
17:06	PilzAdam	I guess so
17:07	Zeg9	Ok
17:07	Zeg9	I'm currently trying to make a model for carts
17:07	Jordach	brb
17:07	Zeg9	My first try with UVs...
17:08	PilzAdam	Zeg9, just try to make the same carts like the nodebox ones
17:08	PilzAdam	would be enough i guess
17:08	Zeg9	That's what I'm doing
17:08	iqualfragile	PilzAdam: what do you think about merging in https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/59 ?
17:08	moltenbot	iqualfragile's link: Make shovels and pickaxes able to deal damage; tweak damage caused by hand and weapons to be more consistent and balanced by Calinou ? Pull Request #59 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub
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17:09	PilzAdam	iqualfragile, yea, i will merge it
17:09	PilzAdam	anyone against it?
17:09	iqualfragile	in general: there are some pull-requests wich seem to be worth merging in
17:10	iqualfragile	PilzAdam: thankyou
17:10	PilzAdam	Calinou, can you rebase this as one commit? https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/59
17:10	moltenbot	PilzAdam's link: Make shovels and pickaxes able to deal damage; tweak damage caused by hand and weapons to be more consistent and balanced by Calinou ? Pull Request #59 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub
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17:15	VanessaE	PilzAdam: merge pull request #60 so c55 will stop waffling over what to do with it :-)
17:15	PilzAdam	NO!!!!
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17:20	KikaRz	back
17:20	KikaRz	hi moltenbot
17:20	moltenbot	hi KikaRz
17:20	Jordach	yes, fuckyes
17:20	Jordach	FUCK YES
17:20	KikaRz	Ok, now its working . Thank you iqualfragile
17:20	Jordach	MESE ORE WOOP WOOP WOOP
17:21	Jordach	VanessaE, another person to the mese ore bandwagon
17:25	VanessaE	Jordach: put a comment on the github link then :-)
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17:27	KikaRz	Hi Jeija
17:27	Jeija	Hi everyone
17:28	VanessaE	hey hey Jeija
17:28	PilzAdam	sup Jeija
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17:29	Jeija	VanessaE: Do you want to help me make vertical mesecons (visual style)
17:29	Penguin	hi
17:29	VanessaE	Jeija: I can offer comments and suggestions but I'm not in too much of a modding frame of mind lately.
17:30	Penguin	done any one no a server with industrial pack on or blockforge2 ?
17:30	Jordach	https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/60#issuecomment-11344065 VanessaE
17:30	moltenbot	Jordach's link: Changed Mese object to be more consistent with other ores (see below). by VanessaE ? Pull Request #60 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub
17:30	Calinou	PilzAdam: is there any simple way to do this, other than deleting the repo then redoing all the changes
17:31	PilzAdam	Calinou, branches
17:31	Calinou	nvm
17:31	Calinou	i'll do it the usual way(R), have to go soon :P
17:32	* KikaRz	is making nodes for Minetest in Gimp 2.6
17:32	Jordach	you cant code im gimp silly
17:32	thexyz	Calinou: well, there is git rebase
17:32	PilzAdam	Calinou, nice book here: http://git-scm.com/documentation
17:32	moltenbot	PilzAdam's link: Git - Documentation
17:32	thexyz	that's why he asks you to "rebase" it
17:32	KikaRz	Jordach, DESIGN!
17:32	KikaRz	NOT CODING
17:32	mauvebic	lol
17:33	mauvebic	my favorite IDE is also gimp :p
17:33	KikaRz	Jordach, i said: is making (not coding / programming)
17:33	Calinou	done the usual way(R)
17:33	Penguin	done any one no a server with industrial pack on or blockforge2 ? please
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17:34	Calinou	https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/63
17:34	moltenbot	Calinou's link: Damage/punch time tweaks by Calinou ? Pull Request #63 ? celeron55/minetest_game ? GitHub
17:34	Calinou	wtf
17:35	Calinou	you'll have to redo some of the fixes though, see the diff
17:35	Calinou	have to go now...
17:35	Calinou	(the attached_node stuff and the footstep sound)
17:36	Penguin	MarkTraceur
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17:37	iqualfragile	@ all the guys running minetest-servers
17:39	iqualfragile	let me help you automatizing the update-process a bit https://github.com/iqualfragile/minetest_scripts
17:39	moltenbot	iqualfragile's link: iqualfragile/minetest_scripts ? GitHub
17:40	iqualfragile	pilzadam: can you change the default-branch of carts to carts_2.0 or attatchments?
17:40	marktraceur	WTF
17:40	PilzAdam	why?
17:41	marktraceur	Ping a guy, then log off 3 seconds later.
17:41	marktraceur	s/seconds/minutes/ but when I'm away the effect is the same
17:43	iqualfragile	weil das was momentan im default-branch ist… naja, sagen wir mal kaum nutzbar ist
17:44	PilzAdam	I dont see any benefit of this
17:45	KikaRz	iqualfragile, just talk english
17:45	iqualfragile	i would not need to cd carts && git checkout carts_2.0
17:45	marktraceur	iqualfragile: Can you add a few useful options to it? Maybe a config file? Without that it's only good for servers that keep all mods in mods/minetest and want to run on latest master.
17:46	iqualfragile	marktraceur: jup, thats just the first version, as you may be able to see i have commited it less than 20 minutes ago
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17:46	marktraceur	iqualfragile: Noted, just suggesting some things
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17:48	PilzAdam	iqualfragile, done
17:48	iqualfragile	PilzAdam: thanks
17:48	PilzAdam	now give me some screenshots for the topic
17:49	iqualfragile	meh?
17:49	Zeg9	PilzAdam, do you still need a mesh for carts?
17:50	PilzAdam	sure
17:50	PilzAdam	(to both)
17:50	Zeg9	Should frames be rotated around X or Z ?
17:50	Zeg9	Also, I can't find .x exporter in blender :/
17:51	KikaRz	Guys, we can make fences by gimp?
17:51	iqualfragile	allright, just setting up a new server, then i will make screenshots
17:51	iqualfragile	https://github.com/PilzAdam/player_textures/pull/1
17:51	moltenbot	iqualfragile's link: Compatibility with new 3D player thingy by sdzen ? Pull Request #1 ? PilzAdam/player_textures ? GitHub
17:53	celeron55	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONN3jBly364
17:53	moltenbot	celeron55's link: 7. Making things with Maths - YouTube
17:54	sema4	interesting, is push/pull specifically git terminology?  we use svn here and i have never heard that before (never used git)
17:54	marktraceur	sema4: Not exclusively, mercurial uses the same terms
17:55	* sema4	nods
17:55	sema4	ok
17:55	marktraceur	sema4: I guess it's a DVCS-exclusive term, though, unless some other VCS uses it
17:56	VanessaE	ok, back
17:56	VanessaE	contractor finally got started on our repairs today - driveway getting some treatment now.
17:56	Jordach	VanessaE, in the UK you're lucky if the builder turns up at all
17:56	Jordach	;)
17:56	VanessaE	it turns out the way I modeled our house on my server is almost exactly what he planned (he saw the model, thinks it is good)
17:57	VanessaE	Jordach: it took five tries and almost two months to get someone over here :-)
17:57	marktraceur	Weird. Penguin is a registered nick, but hasn't been seen for six months. But there he is, just logged in a few minutes ago
17:57	Zeg9	PilzAdam, http://ompldr.org/vZ29oNg
17:57	Jordach	heh
17:58	VanessaE	PilzAdam: mese should be an ore.  you suck :-)
17:58	PilzAdam	Zeg9, i need this in the .x format
17:58	Zeg9	Ok, I'll try to find the exporter...
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17:58	Zeg9	But it seems not to be included in my distro :(
17:58	thexyz	VanessaE: no, it shouldn't
17:58	VanessaE	Jordach: perhaps you should...um...tone down your post on the pull request just a tad :-)
17:58	Jordach	VanessaE, the movie taken line modified
17:59	VanessaE	what line is that?
17:59	VanessaE	er movie
17:59	Jordach	taken, you've never seen it?
17:59	VanessaE	oh, no I have not.
17:59	Zeg9	My bad. It isn't enabled in the config
17:59	VanessaE	(I didn't read "taken" as a title, but rather as a part of speech)
18:00	marktraceur	Even considering "Taken" as a movie title, that sentence doesn't make sense.
18:00	VanessaE	I/O error reading /dev/jordach:  parse error
18:00	Zeg9	PilzAdam, the .x one: http://ompldr.org/vZ29oOQ
18:01	rubenwardy1	(5:53:21 PM) celeron55: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONN3jBly364
18:01	rubenwardy1	nice
18:01	moltenbot	rubenwardy1's link: 7. Making things with Maths - YouTube
18:04	PilzAdam	Zeg9, ehm... thats way too small
18:04	Zeg9	Huh?
18:04	Zeg9	omg
18:04	Zeg9	you're right, it shouldn't be like that
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18:05	kaeza	hey!
18:05	Zeg9	Hello
18:06	kaeza	what's up?
18:06	PilzAdam	Zeg9, here is an branch for testing: https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts/tree/model
18:06	moltenbot	PilzAdam's link: PilzAdam/carts at model ? GitHub
18:06	VanessaE	PilzAdam: shall I pull this?
18:06	iqualfragile	kaeza: not much
18:06	Zeg9	ok
18:07	PilzAdam	VanessaE, no
18:07	kaeza	PilzAdam: is that a new carts version?
18:07	KikaRz	no
18:07	VanessaE	PilzAdam: ok, I'll wait.
18:07	VanessaE	hey hey kaeza.
18:07	kaeza	hey hey V
18:08	kaeza	VanessaE: have you updated the Deco Computers mod?
18:08	VanessaE	kaeza: just did.
18:09	PilzAdam	first post updated: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=32506#p32506
18:09	VanessaE	what, no C64 in there? :-(
18:09	moltenbot	PilzAdam's link: [Mod] Carts [carts] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
18:09	PilzAdam	do i miss something?
18:09	kaeza	VanessaE: just added the Speccy :P
18:09	kaeza	C64 for next
18:09	VanessaE	PilzAdam: looks okay to me,
18:09	kaeza	I promise
18:09	VanessaE	kaeza: and a C128 also plz.
18:10	PilzAdam	VanessaE, you cant read that fast
18:10	kaeza	k
18:10	VanessaE	:-)
18:10	VanessaE	PilzAdam: I skimmed :-)
18:10	VanessaE	and I hit enter too quick anyway.
18:12	kaeza	anyone know a good IRC server soft for python?
18:12	PilzAdam	Zeg9, are you working on the model?
18:13	Zeg9	I am
18:13	PilzAdam	good
18:14	PilzAdam	Zeg9, what license?
18:14	Zeg9	WTFPL
18:15	Zeg9	If it works...
18:15	marktraceur	kaeza: http://www.electricmonk.nl/log/2009/09/14/hircd-minimal-irc-server-in-python/
18:15	PilzAdam	If its WTFPL i can change it to anything i want, so... yes that works
18:15	PilzAdam	31%
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18:15	PilzAdam	oops
18:16	Zeg9	PilzAdam, I think I'm going to make a "meta texture" so the texture problems will be fixed
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18:16	kaeza	marktraceur: I'm looking into it right now
18:16	kaeza	and hi :)
18:17	marktraceur	kaeza: Hello back
18:18	jordan4ibanez	omg the mob is now semipeaceful and if you punch it it will own you in 1 second without a timer lol
18:19	kaeza	jordan4ibanez: ?
18:19	kaeza	hi!
18:22	Zeg9	...It won't take my UV map
18:23	kaeza	kay guys, gtg
18:24	kaeza	see you later
18:24	VanessaE	jeez,
18:24	VanessaE	he didn't stay long..
18:25	Zeg9	PilzAdam, got it to work ! good size and textures... but no animations: I used .obj format
18:26	Zeg9	What about using different models for rotated carts?
18:26	jordan4ibanez	pilzadam, you should use real collision detection for the carts
18:27	PilzAdam	If you patch the engine... sure
18:27	jordan4ibanez	I made rails, and i started to work on trains, but this mob thing is more important
18:27	jordan4ibanez	No, you can do it without that
18:27	jordan4ibanez	You need to attach the body of the cart to a bogie and it works
18:27	jordan4ibanez	reverse that
18:28	jordan4ibanez	actually never mind lol, the body is attached to a bogie
18:28	VanessaE	a bogie?
18:28	jordan4ibanez	here is the rails http://pastebin.com/MYXcvp7M
18:28	moltenbot	jordan4ibanez's link:   minetest.register_node("trainz:rail", {  description = "rail",  paramtype =  - Pastebin.com
18:29	jordan4ibanez	it'd be much much less cpu intensive than the current carts
18:30	jordan4ibanez	a bogie is the wheels of a train which keeps the train on the tracks
18:31	jordan4ibanez	or in this case: another entity which is slightly smaller than the cart entity which will hold the cart to the rails
18:31	jordan4ibanez	this is the collisionbox which fits in those tracks
18:31	jordan4ibanez	collisionbox = {-0.29, -0.29, -0.29, 0.29, 0.29, 0.29},
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18:33	Zeg9	PilzAdam, can you check that ? http://ompldr.org/vZ29oeg
18:33	Zeg9	It is working fine, just it doesn't have rotations
18:33	PilzAdam	visual_size = 5 will make the player really big if attached to it
18:34	Zeg9	Oh...
18:34	PilzAdam	also I would prefer .x
18:35	Zeg9	.x doesn't work with uv maps :/
18:35	rubenwardy	http://minetest.net/forum/post.php?tid=3837&amp;qid=53120
18:35	rubenwardy	This should be a stick
18:35	moltenbot	rubenwardy's link: Post new reply - One-line script: installing/compiling Minetest git, Debian/Ubuntu/Mint - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
18:35	rubenwardy	y
18:35	jordan4ibanez	well could you start work with that?
18:35	Jordach	HOLY SHIT https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/commit/b8d77627a4d28c624e63423eef317dd09c68e533
18:36	rubenwardy	sorry, this: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3837
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18:37	moltenbot	Jordach's link: update the mod ?  b8d7762 ? RealBadAngel/technic ? GitHub
18:37	moltenbot	rubenwardy's link: One-line script: installing/compiling Minetest git, Debian/Ubuntu/Mint (Page 1) - General Discussion - Minetest Forums
18:39	KikaRz	going to blow my pc up
18:39	KikaRz	with auke.
18:39	KikaRz	*a nuke
18:40	KikaRz	Linux: 21,6 % of Compatibility with my PC.
18:42	KikaRz	Guys, how i make fences?
18:42	VanessaE	fences?
18:42	VanessaE	which kind?
18:42	KikaRz	yea
18:43	KikaRz	diferent ones
18:43	KikaRz	from that wood ones
18:43	VanessaE	on my server there are about a dozen kinds in about 95 or so colors.
18:43	KikaRz	not that
18:43	KikaRz	Not like that. Very different ones.
18:43	VanessaE	well it depends on the mod then
18:43	KikaRz	RealBadAngel said me that i needed other program
18:43	KikaRz	and not Gimp
18:44	VanessaE	gimp will work just fine for drawing textures.
18:44	KikaRz	i know
18:44	VanessaE	but you also need to code a mod to use those textures.
18:44	KikaRz	how?
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18:44	Doc22	hey
18:44	VanessaE	learn Lua, read through some other mods' code, and learn the Minetest API
18:44	KikaRz	Hi Doc22
18:44	VanessaE	that's how we all do it pretty much :-)
18:44	VanessaE	hey Doc.
18:44	Doc22	been a while lol
18:44	KikaRz	:'(
18:44	Zeg9	brb
18:44	Doc22	lol
18:45	KikaRz	i missed you Doc22... (and VanessaE, im sad because i wanted to make that fences better)
18:45	Doc22	:')
18:45	Doc22	lol
18:45	Doc22	thought i had left minetest eh?
18:45	Doc22	nuh uh
18:45	VanessaE	KikaRz: you'll have to make a mod to do it, that's the only way it works if someone else hasn't already done so.
18:45	RealBadAngel	KikaRz, i told ya, tried to help ya, but it seems you wouldnt believe....
18:45	KikaRz	no, nobody.
18:45	Doc22	there is XFences
18:46	KikaRz	Doc22, DIFFERENT ONES!
18:46	Doc22	oh
18:46	KikaRz	not like wood fences.
18:46	Doc22	you could copy the code
18:46	Jordach	RealBadAngel, what was that huge commit for in technic
18:46	KikaRz	boxes are not equal.
18:46	Doc22	cant you change them
18:47	KikaRz	idk how
18:48	Doc22	and btw http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=56620#p56620 what should I add next
18:48	moltenbot	Doc22's link: [Mod] Doc-Farming! [1.0][docfarming] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
18:49	Doc22	huh?
18:49	Doc22	oh new feature lol
18:49	rubenwardy	Doc22: http://www.extension.iastate.edu/publications/pm534.pdf
18:49	Doc22	cool
18:49	Doc22	i can find lots of ideas
18:49	Doc22	ty
18:50	Doc22	now that you gave me that
18:50	Doc22	minetest needs hungerr
18:50	Doc22	hunger*
18:50	rubenwardy	I will add support for your farming mod
18:50	rubenwardy	in my food mod
18:50	Doc22	thanks
18:51	Doc22	ill make textures for whatever you add support for
18:51	Doc22	if you want
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18:51	Doc22	and ill put a link to your mod on my page
18:52	KikaRz	What minetest needs? - Food bar / Hunger ; Health Regeneration ; Sprinting ; particles ; better animations ; skin system ; server master (server list) ; ...
18:52	Doc22	yes i agree
18:52	KikaRz	; beacon ; enchantment table ; better mobs ; better effects
18:52	Doc22	also it needs hard mobs
18:52	Doc22	like alligator
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18:53	Doc22	stuff that makes it a challenge
18:53	KikaRz	and i never find new mobs
18:53	KikaRz	LandMine is back! Watch out!
18:53	Doc22	lol
18:53	KikaRz	Jordach!
18:53	LandMine	Hmmm
18:53	Doc22	should i add tomatoes or cucumbers
18:53	Doc22	(hmm, how about both?)
18:53	KikaRz	Hummm... http://landmine.wikidot.com/defence
18:53	moltenbot	KikaRz's link: Defence - LandMine
18:53	LandMine	What can jordach do? He is my bitch
18:53	Doc22	lol i think both is good
18:54	Jordach	go fuck yourself
18:54	LandMine	Thank u
18:54	LandMine	Ur so sweet
18:54	KikaRz	Jordach, for simple languages... Masturbate.
18:54	Jordach	/ignore ftw
18:54	KikaRz	LandMine is now: IGNORED.
18:54	LandMine	Hahhahahhah
18:54	LandMine	Like I gave a damm
18:55	LandMine	Hi doc22 what's new
18:55	Doc22	not much
18:55	Doc22	lol
18:55	LandMine	I see I left in the middle of the discussion last time
18:55	LandMine	It was heated
18:55	jordan4ibanez	Now the mobs will attack you at night!
18:55	LandMine	Tell ur face
18:56	KikaRz	Not going to discuss with a homossexual.
18:56	Doc22	umm
18:56	Doc22	landmine?
18:56	Doc22	is homo?
18:56	LandMine	Lol nah
18:56	Doc22	ok good
18:57	LandMine	Kikarx get of my sack
18:57	Doc22	nvm...
18:57	Doc22	creepy..
18:57	LandMine	Lol
18:57	KikaRz	Shut up. I'm a women.
18:57	LandMine	Lol stfu stink cunt
18:57	marktraceur	KikaRz: You mean there are two of you!?
18:57	KikaRz	no, woman *
18:57	marktraceur	(at least!?)
18:57	marktraceur	:)
18:58	LandMine	Kikarz u stink cunt get of my sack
18:58	Doc22	time for everyone to do /clear...
18:58	Doc22	little brothers walking around D:
18:58	KikaRz	LandMine, fuck you.
18:58	jordan4ibanez	Lol i don't think landmine speaks very good english
18:59	LandMine	Well its not my native language so I don't care tbh
18:59	jordan4ibanez	s/very good/fluent
18:59	KikaRz	LandMine: Rule of the rules: IRC: Be patient; get to know the rules
18:59	jordan4ibanez	tell me landmine, why do you have to come in here to troll people?
18:59	marktraceur	LandMine: Could you please take the foul language elsewhere? I mean, swearing is fine, but do it usefully.
18:59	marktraceur	Like "Hey, did you see my new mod? It's fucking awesome!"
19:00	LandMine	Kk mark just cause I like u and never had probles with u
19:00	LandMine	Kikarx let me get tht numba hoe
19:00	KikaRz	LandMine, you know what time is it?
19:01	marktraceur	LandMine: I'm only here to help build a cool community and help software get made--part of that is having a comfortable environment for everyone.
19:01	LandMineMT	Nope
19:01	Jordach	another /ignore to the list
19:01	marktraceur	LandMineMT: If you can't contribute to a comfortable environment, we *will* have a problem.
19:01	LandMineMT	Jordach ur look like a corn flake u ugly fuck
19:01	Jordach	how fun
19:01	KikaRz	Jordach, (2)
19:02	LandMineOwnz	Jordach u mad?
19:02	LandMineOwnz	Hahaha
19:02	Jordach	i can do this all day long
19:02	KikaRz	Fuck you LandMine
19:02	KikaRz	i had a better idea before. LandMine* added to ignore list.
19:02	jordan4ibanez	Jordach doesn't know how to ignore isps
19:02	KikaRz	so, all nicks with LandMine after, are ignored.
19:02	LandMineOwnz	Jordach is ignorant
19:02	KikaRz	i know jordan4ibanez
19:03	KikaRz	LandMineOwnz, you're stupid.
19:03	jordan4ibanez	You all should do the same, what is wrong with you peoples and persons
19:03	LandMineOwnz	Kikarz stop flrtting with me hoe
19:03	VanessaE	LandMineOwnz: enough.
19:03	VanessaE	stop now.
19:03	KikaRz	Vai te lixar cabrão.
19:03	LandMineOwnz	Okok
19:03	LandMineOwnz	I didn't start thoug
19:03	LandMineOwnz	As u can see
19:03	KikaRz	Yes you did.
19:03	rubenwardy	http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4068
19:03	moltenbot	rubenwardy's link: Alert Icons (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums
19:03	LandMineOwnz	I was attacked
19:04	VanessaE	[12-13 13:54] <LandMine> What can jordach do? He is my bitch
19:04	VanessaE	your first comment.
19:04	LandMineOwnz	Well he is but we ill stop
19:04	VanessaE	and nothing between that and you joining that should have set you off.
19:04	KikaRz	VanessaE, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3473 | can you add it to your server? *o*
19:04	Jordach	#minetest, play the rock manuver
19:04	moltenbot	KikaRz's link: [Mod] Fireworks [fireworks] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
19:04	LandMineOwnz	Ofcourse there is
19:04	LandMineOwnz	Read it over
19:05	LandMineOwnz	But w/e
19:05	VanessaE	KikaRz: nice idea but that uses a lot of entities as I recall, and as b0rk3d as those are it wouldn't be a good idea right now.
19:05	Jordach	brb
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19:06	KikaRz	:(
19:06	KikaRz	Remembering: New #minetest (optional) channels! #minetest-dk / #minetest-es / #minetest-fr (made by Calinou) / #minetest-it / #minetest-pt / and #minetest-ru
19:07	KikaRz	Enter now into your language channels! :)
19:07	marktraceur	LandMine: Understand that this is a place where we talk about serious things sometimes, and that it's the headquarters of a volunteer effort. If you can't help us be welcoming to volunteers, you will have to leave.
19:08	LandMine	Stfu don't talk to me
19:08	KikaRz	http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4068 | we could make: for server timeout - a internet planet with a X in the middle or in the border
19:08	moltenbot	KikaRz's link: Alert Icons (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums
19:08	VanessaE	I said KNOCK IT OFF.
19:08	KikaRz	and to Inventory full: a chest with a FULL saying down.
19:09	VanessaE	KikaRz: I thought about that one, but I don't think it'll have a lot of use in creative mode :-)
19:09	KikaRz	not for that
19:09	KikaRz	just for survival
19:09	KikaRz	for when we are mining
19:09	VanessaE	right
19:09	KikaRz	and our inventory gets full
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19:10	Zeg9	PilzAdam, I got the working mesh now
19:11	KikaRz	AndChat|338289 = LandMine
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19:13	rubenwardy	(19:08:26) KikaRz: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4068 | we could make: for server timeout - a internet planet with a X in the middle or in the border
19:13	rubenwardy	(19:08:41) KikaRz: and to Inventory full: a chest with a FULL saying down.
19:13	rubenwardy	Yeah, exactly
19:13	moltenbot	rubenwardy's link: Alert Icons (Page 1) - Feature Discussion - Minetest Forums
19:13	LandMine	Mmmmmmmmm
19:13	KikaRz	thank you for accepting my idea rubenwardy
19:14	rubenwardy	in my food mod, should it check for PilzAdam's mobs or mobf first?
19:14	rubenwardy	the one that is checked first, is the one who's items are used
19:15	PilzAdam	mobf, it has more items
19:15	KikaRz	going to play sky...
19:15	KikaRz	block
19:16	LandMine	Vanessae are u upset with me?
19:16	VanessaE	...
19:16	LandMine	Kikarz are u upset with me???
19:17	KikaRz	...
19:17	LandMine	Vanessae I will ask god to forgive u both
19:17	LandMine	For being so explosive
19:17	marktraceur	LandMine: Careful now.
19:17	VanessaE	...
19:18	LandMine	I will pray for both of u
19:18	LandMine	So u can reach enligtment
19:18	RealBadAngel	one question: why this griefer is not banned now?
19:18	Zeg9	PilzAdam, could you update the model branch ?
19:18	Zeg9	http://ompldr.org/vZ29qNA
19:18	Zeg9	Now it works without visual_size
19:19	LandMine	realbadangel there is nothing wrong with giving others advice
19:19	LandMine	And showng them to road to god
19:20	rubenwardy	is minetest.conf and "worlds" file no longer used?
19:20	Zeg9	I also added 2 frames: 0 is normal one, 1 is -45 and 2 is 45
19:20	RealBadAngel	wtf youre talkin about
19:20	LandMine	I care for vanessae so I will pray for her
19:20	RealBadAngel	youre a virus
19:20	VanessaE	Zeg9: nice.
19:20	marktraceur	LandMine: In here, we don't convert people to any religion.
19:20		LandMine was kicked by VanessaE: do not pray for me.  I don't need it.
19:20	marktraceur	Well that does it.
19:21	VanessaE	rubenwardy: worlds file?
19:21	rubenwardy	folder
19:21	VanessaE	rubenwardy: of course, minetest.conf is used, as is the worlds folder
19:22	VanessaE	in my case, for example, ~/.minetest/worlds/My_World_server    ~/.minetest/minetest-server.conf (I call for this via the command line)
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19:23	rubenwardy	I just rebuilt Minetest, and moved my worlds into the worlds folder
19:23	rubenwardy	when I load it, minetest.conf is not created, and the world list is blank
19:23	rubenwardy	when i make a new world, it does not appear in the worlds folder
19:23	rubenwardy	and finally, a search on my computer for minetest.conf and worlds return nothing
19:23	LandMine	Hmmmm I don't appreciate that vanessae
19:23	rubenwardy	but I can still load that world
19:24	VanessaE	rubenwardy: strange - are you sure you moved them into the "right" folder?  I mean, run-in-place versus system-wide build versus multiple builds?
19:24	rubenwardy	Ah, i used calinou's script for building
19:24	rubenwardy	that must be it
19:24	VanessaE	LandMine: and we don't appreciate the religious gibberish.  Leave it out of this channel.
19:24	VanessaE	rubenwardy: yes, his is a run-in-place build
19:25	LandMine	Ok if that makes u happy
19:25	KikaRz	how i make a cobble gen, if there isn t a mod ? (well that one that makes lava something...
19:25	LandMine	I don't want to make u mad
19:25	KikaRz	going to dinnerl
19:25	VanessaE	so you have to put your worlds et.al into the right folder for that build.
19:25	rubenwardy	i did
19:25	LandMine	It might be bad for u and I don't want that
19:25	VanessaE	(which I think is just ~/minetest without the dot)
19:25	rubenwardy	the mods work
19:25	VanessaE	KikaRz: there are a few mods that can make something out of lava + water
19:26	VanessaE	gloopblocks, lava cooling, a couple more
19:26	LandMine	Kikarz I love u even if u act rude
19:27	LandMine	OldCoder are u there??
19:27	LandMine	Guess not
19:28	LandMine	So vanessae let me know smething
19:28	LandMine	I can talk about god
19:28	rubenwardy	VanessaE: i am rebuilding
19:29	LandMine	But hmmm can send me pictures of his genetalia??
19:29	VanessaE	rubenwardy: ok.  I don't recommend using his build method though, it doesn't work for some people because he leaves out the -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 setting from cmake.
19:29	rubenwardy	that is annoyinh
19:29	rubenwardy	g
19:29	VanessaE	LandMine: what you and hmmmm and others do back and forth in private is none of the channel's business.
19:30	LandMine	Got it
19:30	rubenwardy	working
19:31	VanessaE	rubenwardy: cool.
19:31	LandMine	Vanessae can I have interact in ur server??
19:31	VanessaE	LandMine: no.
19:31	OldCoder	LandMine, I am here
19:31	LandMine	Why?
19:32	OldCoder	Or I will be in a few minutes
19:32	OldCoder	I need to go buy juice
19:32	LandMine	Kk
19:32	OldCoder	LandMine, give VanessaE a bit of time
19:32	OldCoder	VanessaE, indicate whether my 0.4.4 upgrade worked or not. I will build 0.4.4 clients for everybody today
19:32	LandMine	Vanessae can u ban kikarz she called me fagg
19:32	VanessaE	OldCoder: grab me one of those big jugs of orange juice plz? :-)
19:32	OldCoder	LandMine, /ignore is recommended for people who do that
19:33	OldCoder	VanessaE, I will pick up a virtual jug then for you
19:33	VanessaE	OldCoder: oh, yes it worked fine except you need to run creative mode for that world.
19:33	LandMine	She said I was a ball juggler that wasn't nice
19:33	OldCoder	VanessaE, that is fine; so we are almost in business
19:33	OldCoder	LandMine, It was not. I will speak with her.
19:33	VanessaE	OldCoder: yup.
19:33	OldCoder	If I may have a few minutes to go buy juice first. I slept very late and am thirsty.
19:33	LandMine	Vanessae let me have privs I won't do anything bad
19:33	* OldCoder	is en route to juice and cola. Peace on Earth.
19:34	VanessaE	no.
19:34	OldCoder	LandMine, give her a bit of time
19:34	LandMine	I swear
19:34	VanessaE	brb
19:34	OldCoder	LandMine, here is a compromise...
19:34	OldCoder	LandMine, If you wish to see her world you can interact on a copy that I have.
19:34	LandMine	I already saw it
19:34	LandMine	I was on yesterday
19:35	OldCoder	wish interact?
19:35	LandMine	But I can't built
19:35	PilzAdam	Zeg9, Nice!
19:35	LandMine	Yea
19:35	OldCoder	But wait until I freeze that world
19:35	PilzAdam	Zeg9, does it have the animation frames?
19:35	Zeg9	Yep
19:35	OldCoder	Nobody but she and I interact yet. I will bring it online fully soon.
19:35	Zeg9	But I'm not sure it will work fine
19:35	Zeg9	I have to go sorry :(
19:35	Zeg9	I'll be here tomorrow
19:35	OldCoder	Folks I will be back in a few minutes. Zeg9 nice to see you.
19:35	LandMine	Kk
19:36	OldCoder	LandMine, patience with people will lead to patience in return. I will speak with KikaRz
19:36	OldCoder
19:36	* OldCoder	is out for real for a few minutes
19:36	LandMine	Kk lol
19:37	LandMine	Moltenbot u there??
19:37	LandMine	Http://google.com
19:40	jordan4ibanez	I'm about to release a new update
19:40	jordan4ibanez	Mobs will become super hostile at night, and they can open wooden doors, so you better have a metal one
19:40	LandMineMT	Off what?
19:40	jordan4ibanez	also the mobs will attack back if you punch them
19:41	jordan4ibanez	I'm putting the final touches on the mobs smarts
19:41	rubenwardy	PilzAdam: https://github.com/rubenwardy/food/commit/bacbbc9acf4be47f90a4cf53663741aee2ff82e2
19:41	moltenbot	rubenwardy's link: support for pilzadams mob mod ?  bacbbc9 ? rubenwardy/food ? GitHub
19:42	Doc22	ok i added cucumber
19:43	LandMineMT	Yay
19:43	rubenwardy	github only works properly in the GUI
19:47	KikaRz	back
19:48	KikaRz	I don't want to spam this but...
19:48	KikaRz	This is stupid.
19:48	KikaRz	<LandMine> Wassup baby
19:48	KikaRz	<LandMine> Let me get that numba
19:48	KikaRz	<LandMine> ¿?
19:48	KikaRz	<LandMine> Hmmmmmmmmmm
19:48	KikaRz	<LandMineMT> Don't leave me I love u
19:48	KikaRz	<LandMineMT> Why don't u loveme back!!!!!
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19:48	LandMineMT	Lololol
19:49	KikaRz	LandMineMT, i changed. Peoples know. You can't make their turn around versus me.
19:50	PilzAdam	gtg; bye
19:50	jordan4ibanez	pilzadam noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
19:50	KikaRz	noooooooooooooooooooooo
19:50	KikaRz	:'(
19:50	VanessaE	he never stays long...
19:51	KikaRz	Yesterday he stayed
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19:51	KikaRz	at 21:00 ill get into Windows.
19:51	VanessaE	rubenwardy: get it all figured out?
19:51	KikaRz	to make a Word thing
19:51	iqualfragile	LandMineMT: stop trolling, stop bothering KikaRz and dont even get me started on religion
19:51	rubenwardy	yes. I am using windows
19:51	KikaRz	rubenwardy, i didn't talked about that
19:51	KikaRz	o_o'
19:51	rubenwardy	Minetest works on ubuntu now
19:51	rubenwardy	but github does not
19:51	iqualfragile	burn in the ethernal fires of hell
19:52	iqualfragile	wtf?
19:52	KikaRz	rubenwardy, it's working already.
19:52	iqualfragile	github does not work on ubuntu?
19:52	KikaRz	maybe you're on older versions
19:52	KikaRz	or the latest.
19:52	rubenwardy	nope, latest
19:52	rubenwardy	it works, but retardedly
19:52	KikaRz	so, it sucks
19:52	KikaRz	get 12.04.1
19:52	rubenwardy	No, it's github's fault
19:53	iqualfragile	git pull?
19:53	KikaRz	its not
19:53	iqualfragile	does not work?
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19:53	iqualfragile	(or git clone)?
19:53	KikaRz	its working for me (and everyone)
19:53	KikaRz	VanessaE, what did you updated now in your server?
19:53	VanessaE	I just use github via the command line for most things, works fine for me for the usual stuff.
19:53	VanessaE	KikaRz: computers mod, added another player texture
19:53	iqualfragile	afk consuming food
19:53	* VanessaE	offers iqualfragile some egg rolls
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19:54	VanessaE	hi M13.
19:55	KikaRz	M13 :)
19:55	KikaRz	gotta talk with you
19:55	rubenwardy	Multiple corrupts, files created with~ after them despite following the tutorial all equals not working
19:55	M13	you have a Server Vanessa!
19:55	VanessaE	yep.
19:55	KikaRz	... really?
19:56	rubenwardy	see how much i had to correct when i went back to the windows GUI
19:56	rubenwardy	https://github.com/rubenwardy/food/commit/d98243d086f868b6e090c722700b8a204c93c269
19:56	moltenbot	rubenwardy's link: Corrected stupid ubuntu corruptions ?  d98243d ? rubenwardy/food ? GitHub
19:56	M13	lol, ubuntu is not stupid
19:57	M13	damn bots
19:57	marktraceur	M13: Depends on your definition of stupid
19:57	KikaRz	!define stupid
19:57	moltenbot	http://ddg.dg: stupid definition: slow of mind.
19:57	KikaRz	Yea.
19:57	KikaRz	That's one of definitions
19:58	rubenwardy	ubuntu is not stupid, the corruptions are
19:58	Doc22	ok i updated farming mod http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=54963#p54963
19:58	moltenbot	Doc22's link: [Mod] Doc-Farming! [1.0][docfarming] (Page 1) - Mod Releases - Minetest Forums
19:59	Doc22	rubenwardy will you have to make new textures if you make it compatible with my mod?
19:59	Doc22	I will make some if you want me to
19:59	rubenwardy	no
19:59	Doc22	and I could make a bridge modpack
20:00	rubenwardy	alias
20:00	Doc22	dang gtg
20:00	marktraceur	Doc22: What, card table, bidding boxes, decks of cards? :)
20:00	rubenwardy	Should I make a new topic for the food_modern food mod extension?
20:00	marktraceur	It would be hard, but not impossible, given the formspec stuff
20:00	* marktraceur	seriously considers writing card games into minetest
20:00	marktraceur	Well, that was fun, I'm back to the sane world
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20:03	KikaRz	VanessaE, can you add Doc-Farming?
20:03	VanessaE	no.  not right now
20:03	KikaRz	whyy?
20:04	KikaRz	restarted?
20:04	VanessaE	yes
20:04	VanessaE	not right now because I'm busy :-)
20:05	KikaRz	farming_plus is in server?
20:05	VanessaE	basic farming only
20:05	KikaRz	:'(
20:05	VanessaE	because I forgot to install _plus
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20:08	OldCoder	Back
20:09	OldCoder	KikaRz, PM
20:11	rubenwardy	gtg soon
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20:12	rubenwardy	---------!---------
20:12	VanessaE	noooooo
20:12	rubenwardy	The modern food extension of the food mod has been released!
20:13	VanessaE	cool
20:13	davidpace	VE here it is http://www.minecraftskins.info/batman.html
20:13	moltenbot	davidpace's link: Minecraft Skins | Batman
20:13	VanessaE	NICE.
20:13	VanessaE	installed, restarted.
20:14	davidpace	Alright, thanks
20:14	VanessaE	KikaRz: farming_plus installed.\
20:14	KikaRz	you made my game bug _._
20:14	VanessaE	well server restarts tend to do that :-)
20:15	davidpace	I'll be on later, see ya guys/girls :-)
20:15	LandMineMT	Hmm
20:15	VanessaE	ciao.
20:16	rubenwardy	bye all
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20:16	mauvebic	hey oldcoder, if you got time check this out, tell me what you think https://sites.google.com/site/mauvemods/home/terrain-guns :-)
20:16	VanessaE	ci...
20:16	VanessaE	..ao.
20:16	KikaRz	you going out?
20:17	VanessaE	rubenwardy just did.
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20:26	OldCoder	Hi
20:27	OldCoder	mauvebic, reviewing now
20:27	mauvebic	howdy
20:27	mauvebic	ty :)
20:28	mauvebic	my take on the MC 'Voxel Sniper"
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20:37	kizeren	VanessaE....Your server creative or survival?
20:37	khonkhortisan	creative
20:37	VanessaE	creative.
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20:40	OldCoder	celeron55, wb
20:40	OldCoder	VanessaE, I will restart 30017 with creative shortly
20:40	VanessaE	ok
20:40	OldCoder	VanessaE, so my 0.4.4 server seems to work?
20:40	OldCoder	I will build clients now
20:40	OldCoder	If the clients work I will commence shift of the other worlds
20:40	VanessaE	yep, it works.
20:40	OldCoder	Hmm. None of my 30004 friends seem to be here
20:41	OldCoder	I wish to switch them next. It will be a good test.
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20:41	OldCoder	redcrab, Hi!
20:42	OldCoder	redcrab, I am switching to 0.4.4
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20:47	jordan4ibanez_	fuck
20:47	KikaRz	what?
20:48	jordan4ibanez_	kick jordan4ibanez
20:48	KikaRz	just /ns ghost
20:48	KikaRz	/ns ghost jordan4ibanez PASSWORD
20:48	jordan4ibanez	yay
20:48	VanessaE	can't kick someone/something who ain't in the channel :-)
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20:52	KikaRz	VanessaE
20:52	VanessaE	hm?
20:52	KikaRz	can i try to build my favourite school of my city?
20:52	VanessaE	surew.
20:52	VanessaE	sure.
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20:53	OldCoder	Zeg9, wb
20:53	KikaRz	:'(
20:53	KikaRz	VanessaE, you updated unified_inventory. Now i can't put day :(
20:53	VanessaE	you can't...
20:53	jordan4ibanez	whoa i just turned ubuntu 12.04 into 10.04 lol
20:53	VanessaE	but I can :-)
20:54	KikaRz	jordan4ibanez, hwo you did?
20:54	KikaRz	i want too
20:54	VanessaE	sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
20:54	VanessaE	;-)
20:54	KikaRz	...
20:54	OldCoder	08:36:11: ERROR[ServerThread]: ServerEnvironment::deactivateFarObjects(): id=12 m_static_exists=true but static data doesn't actually exist in (-6,1,2)
20:54	OldCoder	WARNING: StaticObjectList::remove(): id=12 not found
20:54	OldCoder	VanessaE, that is 30017. Any comments?
20:54	OldCoder	Minor or major issue?
20:55	VanessaE	OldCoder: dunno, except it's not a fatal issue.  others get that on other worlds as well from time ot time.
20:55	VanessaE	to*
20:55	OldCoder	All right ty
20:55	OldCoder	O.K. ty as well
20:55	OldCoder	Appreciate the remarks
20:55	VanessaE	whoia
20:55	VanessaE	whoa..
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20:55	VanessaE	I never noticed this before...
20:56	VanessaE	when sprinting, players now have some inertia on turns?
20:56	VanessaE	when was that added?
20:56	VanessaE	am I just blind? :-)
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20:58	davidpace	Hey VanessaE, would it be to much too add the /spawn?
20:58	davidpace	On your server.
20:58	VanessaE	davidpace: I plan to actually.
20:58	RealBadAngel	+
20:58	davidpace	Yay
20:59	OldCoder	RealBadAngel, Hi! Switching to 0.4.4
20:59	VanessaE	wakie wakie RealBadAngel  :-)
20:59	VanessaE	lazy ass :D
21:00	jordan4ibanez	celeron55, can you remove right click places items? It would be nice because it would open a range of things to do with right-click
21:01	KikaRz	VanessaE, with World edit, it could be faster... but i cant...
21:01	KikaRz	so... 1 month to finish it.
21:01	jordan4ibanez	drawback bow, machine guns, filling up cars with gas, controlling airplanes, controlling parachutes, etc
21:01	KikaRz	with world edit: 5 days
21:01	VanessaE	no way, no one gets worldedit except me.  and it won't take you THAT long :-)
21:02	KikaRz	Yes it will
21:03	KikaRz	if you want, you can see this flat area.
21:03	khonkhortisan	jordan4ibanez, formspec could still get in the way
21:03	jordan4ibanez	no it wouldn't that still makes sense
21:03	celeron55	VanessaE: what you see is the limited acceleration speed of the player; and it has existed since earlier than the first version in the original mercurial repo
21:03	jordan4ibanez	right click placing items causes issues with the mod i am creating greatly
21:04	KikaRz	tomorrow: vacances :)
21:04	KikaRz	can i burn these conifer trees?
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21:05	OldCoder	U.S. worlds are going down to move to new storage
21:05	OldCoder	Jordach, hi
21:05	mauvebic	jordan4ibanez a temporary workaround might be to add stuff to player inv formspec
21:05	KikaRz	VanessaE
21:05	Jordach	Hey oldcoder, just using the iPad
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21:06	jordach-iPad	There
21:06	KikaRz	made a conifer trees fire.
21:06	OldCoder	mauvebic, is that MC or MT?
21:06	jordan4ibanez	no, that is very ghetto
21:06	OldCoder	https://sites.google.com/site/mauvemods/home
21:06	moltenbot	OldCoder's link: mauvemods
21:06	RealBadAngel	jordan4ibanez, simply on_right_click handler
21:07	jordan4ibanez	why not remove it? there's really no use for it at all
21:07	mauvebic	oldcoder what do you mean?
21:07	RealBadAngel	jordan4ibanez, btw youre asked to talk PM
21:07	OldCoder	mauvebic, which game is that for? You asked me to review it
21:07	mauvebic	MT
21:07	mauvebic	i dont have MC lol
21:07	OldCoder	Really?
21:07	KikaRz	http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturadeecr-13-12-2012-210652.php
21:07	moltenbot	KikaRz's link: Captura de ecr
21:07	OldCoder	mauvebic, that is cool. Shall I run the 100MB world?
21:08	KikaRz	VanessaE, thats the fire i had to do
21:08	mauvebic	java makes me purge and im skinny enough
21:08	OldCoder	Heh
21:08	VanessaE	shit.  brb.
21:08	OldCoder	Shall I run a copy of the 100MB world?
21:08	mauvebic	any world, test world preferably
21:08	KikaRz	sry, but i had to do it
21:08	VanessaE	nono problem on my computer
21:08	OldCoder	mauvebic, remind me in a day or too. I am switching to 0.4.4 first.
21:08	KikaRz	oh
21:08	OldCoder	mauvebic, But your demo world can go onto minetest.org
21:08	KikaRz	5 thousand trees burning
21:08	OldCoder	That is a lot of trees
21:09	KikaRz	kidding
21:09	KikaRz	just 10 conifer.
21:09	mauvebic	coolness im still adding more guns anyhoo lol
21:09	OldCoder	mauvebic, I will treat it as a demo for now
21:09	mauvebic	i figured out erode but not sharpen :/ lol
21:09	OldCoder	mauvebic, You will walk around and use Places mods to  make me a catalog. Is it a deal?
21:10	mauvebic	on minetest.org?
21:10	OldCoder	Yes
21:10	KikaRz	how ill stop this fire now?
21:10	KikaRz	water source ?
21:10	OldCoder	KikaRz, can you create a lake?
21:10	KikaRz	now: 25 trees (conifer) burning and 4 normals
21:11	KikaRz	server crash?
21:11	KikaRz	maybe.
21:11	KikaRz	VanessaE, server crash=
21:11	KikaRz	?
21:11	KikaRz	sory vanessaE :'(
21:11	mauvebic	i cant see where im supposed to add an entry, forum link leads back to mt forum
21:12	KikaRz	VanessaE?
21:13	KikaRz	:'(
21:14	KikaRz	<KikaRz> !joke
21:14	KikaRz	<moltenbot> "Each hair in KikaRz \'s beard contributes to make the world\'s largest DDOS."
21:14	KikaRz	'-'
21:14	KikaRz	NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
21:15	KikaRz	VanessaE!
21:15	KikaRz	COME BACK PLEASEEEE
21:15	RealBadAngel	lol ;)
21:15	KikaRz	OldCoder, call VanessaE by phone and ask her whats happening
21:15	KikaRz	:(
21:15	OldCoder	KikaRz, she will brb I am sure
21:15	RealBadAngel	Hi OldCoder
21:16	OldCoder	It was a ping timeout and not a quit
21:16	OldCoder	RealBadAngel, Hey
21:16	KikaRz	OldCoder, how you made that ? ~OldCoderunaffiliated/oldcoder
21:16	RealBadAngel	EU is running new one?
21:16	OldCoder	KikaRz, It is a Freenode feature. Busy ATM. RealBadAngel It will soon.
21:16	RealBadAngel	superb
21:16	OldCoder	RealBadAngel, Building stuff today and tomorrow.
21:16	OldCoder	I will stay current.
21:16	KikaRz	how to enable t?
21:16	KikaRz	*it
21:17	OldCoder	KikaRz, I am busy ATM. But basically you apply to Freenode staff. Google these words please: freenode cloak
21:17	OldCoder	That should show you
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21:19	KikaRz	Why my server thing is telling me this: * WHO :This command could not be completed because it has been used recently, and is rate-limited.
21:19	KikaRz	* * :End of /WHO list. ?
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21:19	OldCoder	You need to wait a few minutes to use it
21:19	khonkhortisan	it's giving you the reason
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21:20	KikaRz	!up vanessae.mine.bz
21:20	moltenbot	Minetest server vanessae.mine.bz:30000 UP
21:20	KikaRz	Yay
21:23	KikaRz	fire stills
21:23	KikaRz	how i stop the fire?
21:23	OldCoder	If you don't have worldedit I assume there is no way to make a lake
21:23	KikaRz	not my problem
21:23	KikaRz	VanessaE
21:23	OldCoder	She is away
21:24	khonkhortisan	a bucket is enough to make a lake
21:24	OldCoder	khonkhortisan, explain briefly
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21:24	jordan4ibanez	http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=4023 new mobs
21:24	moltenbot	jordan4ibanez's link: [1.5] 3D Animated NPC (Page 1) - Modding General - Minetest Forums
21:24	OldCoder	VanessaE, wb
21:24	khonkhortisan	water source spreads diagonally. If you place a line of water one direction, and another line of water perpendicular to that, it'll fill in the area.
21:25	OldCoder	KikaRz, ^
21:25	VanessaE	one of my hard disks had a hiccup.  Some moron left the door open, so it fell off the bus.  ;-)  Nothing serious.
21:25	KikaRz	VanessaE
21:25	KikaRz	extinguish the fire please.
21:26	* VanessaE	looks...
21:26	jordach-iPad	VanessaE, well that's bad luck.. :)
21:33	* VanessaE	helps the bruised hard disk back up off the ground.
21:33	VanessaE	:)
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21:40	OldCoder	Muadtralk, hi
21:44	Muadtralk	hello
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21:45	OldCoder	jordach-iPad, hi
21:46	jordach-iPad	iPad + YouTube + Irc = timeout
21:50	KikaRz	Tomorrow: Starting of building (School by kIka)
21:50	KikaRz	i hope world dont finishes
21:50	KikaRz	but the sun will stop shining for 2/3 days...
21:50	KikaRz	idk whats going on :(
21:51	KikaRz	brb
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21:54	VanessaE	oops.
21:54	VanessaE	wrong window.
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21:56	Doc22	oldcoder: what vps company do you use?
21:56	OldCoder	Doc22, several
21:56	Doc22	I am looking for good vps hosters
21:57	Doc22	what do you reccomend
21:57	OldCoder	Doc22, options include Linode and Amazon. Amazon is good because first tier is free.
21:57	OldCoder	Good for learning and initial setup. But you need a credit card.
21:57	Doc22	I am looking for one that has good service, but is reasonably priced
21:57	Doc22	all right
21:57	OldCoder	Free is reasonable price
21:57	Doc22	ill look at amazon
21:57	Doc22	lol
21:57	OldCoder	AWS EC2
21:57	Doc22	agreed
21:57	Doc22	all right
21:57	khonkhortisan	but it's not free to get a credit card
21:58	Doc22	but if you already have one...
21:59	Doc22	oh amazon aws is what minecraft uses
22:00	OldCoder	Yes
22:01	Doc22	arrgh gtg again
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22:09	Dracopta	Rz
22:09	Dracopta	fail
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22:10	KikaRz	Joined Rizon, and not freenode
22:10	KikaRz	Hi there LandMine
22:11	VanessaE	wb KikaRz
22:11	KikaRz	hi there
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22:14	KikaRz	hi M13_
22:14	M13_	hiya
22:14	VanessaE	M13, when you gonna get on my server and build? :-)
22:15	KikaRz	Poor
22:15	STHGOM	what happend to the Zegeton server?
22:15	KikaRz	OldCoder, tell him
22:18	M13_	um, idk maybe later, is that ok, and can i have privs?
22:19	KikaRz	in what server?
22:19	VanessaE	sure.
22:19	KikaRz	M13_, now i run Linux (and windows by business and educational problems)
22:21	Muadtralk	what exactly are those business and educational problems?
22:21	M13_	nice awesome
22:22	KikaRz	Job, University and ++.
22:22	KikaRz	can't explain well
22:22	KikaRz	i got the Desktop filled up with folders.
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22:33	VanessaE	hey, Uberi.
22:34	Uberi	o/
22:35	KikaRz	gtg
22:35	VanessaE	KikaRz: nooooo
22:35	STHGOM	bye
22:35	KikaRz	VanessaE, if someone build in my territory, ill kill him
22:36	KikaRz	and destroy his buildings
22:36	VanessaE	sign on dammit
22:36	KikaRz	I CANT!
22:36	KikaRz	GTG
22:36	KikaRz	too late
22:36	VanessaE	:(
22:36	KikaRz	00:36
22:36	KikaRz	tomorrow gotta get up 7:30 AM
22:37	VanessaE	jeez can't even spare 10 seconds so I can fix your ownership :-)
22:37	KikaRz	sign on as me
22:37	KikaRz	'-'
22:38	VanessaE	(I wish someone would fix that damn mod so it doesn't need the user to be signed in)
22:38	KikaRz	open 2 minetests
22:38	VanessaE	how?  I don't know your password :-)
22:38	KikaRz	by
22:40	Uberi	VanessaE: seems to be an MD5 hash, unsalted
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22:40	VanessaE	actually isn't is SHA1 or something?
22:41	Uberi	might be
22:42	VanessaE	no matter..
22:45	OldCoder	STHGOM, I am updating to MT 0.4.4
22:45	OldCoder	Probably finishing today
22:45	STHGOM	ok
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22:53	klunk	hello; OldCoder ?
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22:54	OldCoder	klunk, hi!
22:54	klunk	oh !!! wanderfull !
22:54	VanessaE	hi klunk
22:55	klunk	OldCoder you mystify me, I can explain it in other way ...
22:55	davidpace	Hey VE what is the priv: noclip?
22:55	klunk	hi :-)
22:55	VanessaE	davidpace: when set, it means you can pass through walls
22:55	VanessaE	when you're flying that is
22:55	OldCoder	klunk, busy with MT 0.4.4 but ttys
22:55	davidpace	Okay thanks
22:55	klunk	I was trying connecting Zegatron but fail
22:55	OldCoder	klunk, I am updating the worlds
22:55	klunk	oh, ok, don't mind
22:55	OldCoder	I need to focus on that
22:56	OldCoder	0.4.4 is coming now
22:56	klunk	no problems, sorry to disturb, I will connect tomorrow, ;-)
22:57	OldCoder	Sure
22:57	OldCoder	May be just an hour or two
22:57	OldCoder	Possibly longer
22:57	OldCoder	Need to test things
22:58	klunk	ok OldCoder, thanks for your work
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22:59	OldCoder	klunk, o/
22:59	klunk	yes ?
23:00	OldCoder	That is a friendly wave :-)
23:00	OldCoder	o/
23:00	OldCoder	A response to what you said. But I'm focusing for a while now. c u folks.
23:00	klunk	oooook,  ;-)
23:03	jordan4ibanez	how do i make a .x thing in blender?
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23:06	Octupus	Hola
23:06	klunk	hola
23:12	OldCoder	Octupus, aloha
23:14	Octupus	:)
23:18	jordan4ibanez	you guys are going to laugh at the next update lol
23:20	mauvebic	you made a mob out of gunther levi?
23:20	mauvebic	:p
23:22	mauvebic	damn perlin
23:23	sema4	anyone know what alid range of light_source ?
23:23	sema4	alid->valid
23:24	mauvebic	1-14~15
23:24	VanessaE	1-14
23:24	sema4	thanks!
23:24	sema4	so 15 is brightest?
23:24	Uberi	nah, it works like sunlight
23:24	VanessaE	14 is afaik.
23:24	Uberi	14, I mean
23:24	Uberi	13 is the brightest for normal lighting
23:25	Uberi	you can just use LIGHT_MAX for that though
23:25	sema4	huh ok.
23:25	* sema4	tries it
23:26	VanessaE	I usually use LIGHT_MAX - somevalue
23:26	VanessaE	e.g. LIGHT_MAX - 1
23:27	VanessaE	that way if the max brightness ever changes, I'm covered, mostly :-)
23:27	VanessaE	though I suppose it should be LIGHT_MAX * decimalvalue e.g. LIGHT_MAX * 0.9
23:28	Uberi	VanessaE: math.round(LIGHT_MAX * 0.9)!
23:28	sema4	no way to go brighter eh?
23:28	VanessaE	heh
23:28	Uberi	sema4: well you can always use the ^[brighten transform on the textures
23:28	Uberi	but that's about it
23:28	sema4	ok i am not familiar with that
23:29	Uberi	those don't seem to be documented anywhere :/
23:29	VanessaE	I was just about to ask if they were documented...
23:29	Uberi	if anyone knows about it, please add it to the wiki: https://github.com/Uberi/MineTest-API/wiki
23:29	moltenbot	Uberi's link: Home ? Uberi/MineTest-API Wiki ? GitHub
23:29	sema4	i'll see how it works out, maybe once i stuff in the correct number of light fixtures the total amount of light will look correct
23:29	Uberi	(it's a full mirror of api.minetest.net with a lot of new content by me)
23:30	Uberi	sema4: light doesn't stack
23:30	Uberi	two torches side by side will only increase lit area, not intensity
23:31	jordan4ibanez	how do i find if a node is walkable?
23:31	Uberi	minetest.registered_nodes[name].walkable
23:31	Uberi	or better, minetest.registered_nodes[name].walkable or false
23:31	sema4	yeah, i was not expecting increase in intensity, so, more fixtures = more coverage, not more brightness
23:32	Uberi	the "or false" means that it gives false even if the field is nil
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23:38	STHGOM	bye
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