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Time Nick Message
00:00 NekoGloop ?
00:00 kaeza I love these things: http://cheezburger.com/6594805248
00:00 VanessaE it's better than inventory plus.  get that 0.4.4 build I pointed to, to into the Settings menu and turn item preload ON, then join my server and try it out
00:01 NekoGloop will it have bags? :P
00:01 VanessaE yep.
00:02 NekoGloop and, have you found the mod i didnt delete? :)
00:02 VanessaE inventory search, a mondo inventory page size, bags, home position set/go, and eventually craft guide.
00:02 VanessaE no I have not.
00:02 VanessaE "didn't" delete?
00:03 NekoGloop If you're gonna be a grammar nazi, at least punctuate correctly.
00:03 NekoGloop Haha.
00:04 NekoGloop s/punctuate/capitalize/
00:04 VanessaE grammar nazi FAIL
00:04 VanessaE :-)
00:04 NekoGloop grammar nazi nazi FAIL, you mean.
00:05 NekoGloop I remember hearing something about carts being upstream now, is the carts mod neccessary?
00:06 OldCoder Hi
00:06 NekoGloop And I probably have to update every mod i have :P
00:06 VanessaE no, they are not upstream.
00:06 VanessaE but the code needed to make them work is.
00:06 OldCoder I build Windows clients and will update soon. I promised NekoGloop a month ago.
00:06 NekoGloop VanessaE: Then point me to them.
00:06 marktraceur kaeza: What do you mean, it doesn't craft tools?
00:06 NekoGloop OldCoder: Forget it already.
00:06 OldCoder No
00:06 kaeza I tired making a cobble pick
00:07 kaeza didn't work
00:07 kaeza wait
00:07 marktraceur kaeza: So you put the recipe in the recipe slot, at least two sticks and 3 cobble in the source material, and a fuel source in the fuel slot
00:07 marktraceur kaeza: Right?
00:08 kaeza I believe sticks are fuel, right?
00:08 marktraceur kaeza: They should be....try something else just in case
00:08 NekoGloop VanessaE: I'll sort out mods later. Your server is where?
00:08 VanessaE NekoGloop: I believe this is the right carts mod:  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2451
00:08 VanessaE my server is 24.181.193.82 port 30000
00:09 VanessaE warning:
00:09 VanessaE it is slow to low and subject to frequent restarts, as I also use it for testing stuff.
00:09 VanessaE slow to LOAD that is.
00:09 marktraceur kaeza: Can you screenshot the factory menu so I can confirm that you're doing the same thing I think you are? :)
00:09 kaeza marktraceur: strange
00:09 kaeza it does not work with sticks
00:10 kaeza but works with trees
00:10 marktraceur kaeza: It looks like sticks aren't fuel
00:10 kaeza WTF??? it works with sticks now too!!
00:11 kaeza hmmm....
00:11 marktraceur Uhhh
00:11 kaeza catched the problem
00:11 kaeza found the problem
00:11 NekoGloop loading... loading... loading...
00:12 * NekoGloop goes to play some elevator music
00:12 kaeza It seems my IRC mod was timing out, and hung the game for a few mins
00:12 marktraceur Aha.
00:12 marktraceur kaeza: Mind retracting your bug report on the forum? :)
00:12 kaeza okay
00:13 marktraceur Also, remember that the ABM may be a bit resource-intensive. Having a lot of factories may cause some trouble.
00:13 marktraceur I'll see if I can't fix that in the next version
00:14 kaeza there
00:14 NekoGloop VanessaE: Y U NO INTERACT MEH :(
00:14 VanessaE because I am not on the server.  gimme a sec
00:14 kaeza has no "interact" privs :)
00:15 kaeza hmm...
00:15 VanessaE by default I don't grant interact, lest a griefer learn of this server.
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00:15 kaeza marktraceur: done
00:15 VanessaE NekoGloop: done.
00:15 NekoGloop Where the hell are you lol
00:15 VanessaE I'm already off again :-)
00:15 NekoGloop s/are/were
00:15 VanessaE er...I didn't actually look :D
00:16 VanessaE near the spawn anyway
00:16 NekoGloop Do you have my creeper hoodie skin?
00:16 VanessaE I believe so, lemme go look
00:17 VanessaE (I'm running tests in another minetest instance also)
00:17 VanessaE OMG, CREEPER!!!!!
00:17 VanessaE :)
00:18 VanessaE with a headset?
00:18 NekoGloop yeah
00:18 VanessaE (and hoodie)
00:18 NekoGloop I've got a new one now that I made from scratch :P
00:18 VanessaE download link?
00:19 NekoGloop heh.
00:19 kaeza marktraceur: problem
00:19 VanessaE NekoGloop: or at least, shoot it over to be via DCC.
00:19 NekoGloop VanessaE: http://ompldr.org/vZ2ppcQ
00:19 kaeza you can dig the factory even if it contains items
00:19 marktraceur kaeza: Oh noes! What's up?
00:19 marktraceur Oh, hm
00:20 marktraceur I'll fix 'er
00:20 marktraceur Until then: Don't dig factories with items in them
00:20 kaeza np
00:20 kaeza just lost 5 mese picks :(
00:20 kaeza J/K
00:20 Doc22_ VanessaE where do you find the code for pneumatic tubes
00:20 Doc22_ I want the stuff that moves items
00:20 VanessaE where do I "find" it?
00:21 VanessaE er
00:21 VanessaE the movement code is part of technic
00:21 Doc22_ thanks
00:21 NekoGloop VanessaE: HOW COULD I HAVE FORGOTTEN TO PUT CATEARS ON MY CHARACTER
00:21 NekoGloop VanessaE: I BLAME YOU. :(
00:21 VanessaE lol
00:21 Doc22_ haha
00:21 VanessaE you suck :)
00:22 OldCoder VanessaE, conclusions on plantlife yet?
00:23 babyface1031_ doc hold on i just had to look for those
00:23 NekoGloop You can only go so far on a cart before falling out?
00:23 Doc22_ i got where they are
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00:24 VanessaE OldCoder: working on it.  I think it's good.  I just pushed an update just now that should fix it.  I would appreciate some tests on a fresh world (change the spawn_delay, spawn_chance, grow_delay, and grow_chance at around line 30 of plantlife/plants/init.lua to very small numbers to accelerate your test)
00:24 VanessaE NekoGloop: no, that's a bug
00:25 VanessaE NekoGloop: server restart coming.  What about that skin you wanted me to use?
00:25 NekoGloop and TVs sound like grass.
00:25 NekoGloop VanessaE: One moment.
00:25 NekoGloop ... Eh, I cant really do headphones and catears at the same time
00:25 NekoGloop relink if you need it: http://ompldr.org/vZ2ppcQ
00:25 VanessaE NekoGloop: yeah, almost all homedecor stuff sounds like either grass or wood because I was too lazy to change the sound settings :-)
00:26 VanessaE NekoGloop: installed and server restarted
00:27 VanessaE OldCoder: that server restart I just did over here puts the latest plantlife mod into place also.
00:27 NekoGloop Now come bask in that amazingness of my character skin!
00:28 marktraceur kaeza: Should be fixed now
00:28 kaeza marktraceur: DL'ing and testing...
00:29 marktraceur Oh hm
00:29 marktraceur Messed up the script, sorry
00:29 kaeza wut?
00:30 marktraceur The script put the files in the wrong place, but it's done now
00:30 marktraceur I made a script for building and deploying distribution packages
00:30 kaeza k
00:31 kaeza working now
00:31 kaeza cannot dig the factory unless it's empty
00:32 marktraceur Good good
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00:33 kaeza just a little thing, but it's not specific to your mod. In fact, protection mods work in a similar way
00:34 marktraceur kaeza: What's up?
00:34 kaeza When yo dig a node, the game negates this action by putting it again. Now, if the server has a bit of lag, the player can get "through" the node
00:35 kaeza i.e: between the time the node is digged and the time the game puts it back again
00:35 kaeza I don't know how to explain it clearer
00:36 marktraceur Right
00:37 kaeza IDK if this has been reported
00:37 marktraceur I know what you mean
00:37 marktraceur But it's definitely a bigger issue, i.e., nothing I can fix in Lua :)
00:37 kaeza np
00:37 kaeza noticed this long ago
00:38 kaeza has it been reported yet?
00:40 OldCoder VanessaE, If you wish a fresh world to test that is fine
00:40 OldCoder We will proceed this evening
00:41 marktraceur kaeza: I'm not sure, you should look! :)
00:41 kaeza //me is having ice cream right noow
00:41 * kaeza is having ice cream right noow
00:41 kaeza sowwy
00:41 kaeza gonna look
00:44 berome good night  !
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00:45 kaeza heck it's 30ºC here
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01:02 Octupus I going on me
01:02 Octupus Oc
01:06 Octupus joined #minetest
01:09 Octupus hi
01:10 marktraceur Octupus: Hi!
01:10 Octupus hi marktraceur
01:11 Octupus industry pack ehh mark
01:12 marktraceur Octupus: That's correct
01:12 Octupus :)
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01:16 VanessaE zzz
01:17 OldCoder VanessaE, I will make a PlantLife world in 15 minutes or so
01:17 VanessaE OldCoder: be sure you pull it from my git repo of course.
01:17 VanessaE it seems to be stable now.
01:17 VanessaE kaeza: fixed your waterlilies bug.
01:18 kaeza VanessaE: gonna check it :)
01:18 kaeza thx :x
01:18 OldCoder VanessaE, save me a minute. Link PlantLife and list the three to remove from that world.
01:19 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3898
01:20 OldCoder ty
01:20 VanessaE Add that ^^^^^^^ and delete these:  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2624  --  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2307  --  http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1834
01:20 OldCoder VanessaE, just name them
01:20 OldCoder Save me a minute
01:20 OldCoder Flowers and ?
01:20 VanessaE flowers poisonivy junglegrass
01:20 OldCoder Jungle Grass
01:20 OldCoder I have poison ivy?
01:20 OldCoder Probably not
01:20 OldCoder But O.K.
01:20 OldCoder New world soon
01:20 OldCoder It is temporary though
01:21 OldCoder Got plenty of low density worlds
01:21 VanessaE If you don't, and don't want it, edit plantlife/plants/init.lua line 19, set it to false.
01:22 OldCoder It is fine
01:24 VanessaE "Topics with new posts
01:24 VanessaE There are no topics with new posts since your last visit. "
01:24 VanessaE :(
01:25 kaeza my inet connection seems slow today
01:25 VanessaE sowwy
01:26 VanessaE "'Self-Healing' NAND Flash Memory That Can Survive Over 100 Million Cycles"  <-- if only.
01:26 kaeza a git clone from plantlife took about 5 minutes before closing the connection
01:27 VanessaE you sure it wasn't github doing that?  they've been having problems over the last few days
01:29 kaeza hmmm
01:31 kaeza done
01:31 kaeza at last
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01:34 VanessaE kaeza: better? :-)
01:35 kaeza I'm checking
01:35 VanessaE wow, Nintendo Power mag is ceasing production.  that's kinda disappointing (and I don't even read it)
01:36 VanessaE or rather, has ceased.
01:36 kaeza got stuck in a 20m deep hole next to an underground tree. F*cking mapgen
01:36 kaeza VanessaE: Nintendo Power... good times
01:37 * kaeza is sad
01:39 NekoGloop VanessaE: Meow.
01:39 VanessaE meow.
01:39 Dogzilla131 How to you make images that look like a sword
01:40 VanessaE use a program that can handle transparency and just draw one
01:40 VanessaE with a transparent background
01:40 kaeza I recommend Gimp
01:40 kaeza or ASEprite
01:42 kaeza VanessaE: I didn't see any flowers yet :(
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01:42 VanessaE kaeza: they'll take a while.
01:43 kaeza they don't spawn at mapgen anymore? nice!
01:43 VanessaE they never did
01:43 kaeza silly me
01:43 kaeza thought they did
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01:46 STHGOM hi
01:46 OldCoder Hi back
01:47 kaeza YAY! https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1584258379.jpg
01:47 kaeza VanessaE: ^
01:47 STHGOM if anyone wants me just say my name
01:47 kaeza my name
01:47 STHGOM lol
01:48 STHGOM what do you want me for?
01:48 kaeza nothing
01:48 STHGOM ok
01:48 STHGOM if anyone wants me say "STHGOM"
01:48 kaeza that's better
01:48 STHGOM :)
01:48 Dogzilla131 how to you take sreenshots
01:49 kaeza F12
01:49 kaeza Dogzilla131: ^
01:49 STHGOM F12
01:49 Dogzilla131 thanks
01:49 kaeza that or Print Screen :)
01:52 NekoGloop MEOW. :3
01:53 OldCoder poinsonivy
01:53 OldCoder NekoGloop, Hi
01:54 OldCoder VanessaE, I think you misspelled that
01:55 OldCoder VanessaE, also what was the timing change you wanted?
01:55 OldCoder Found it
01:58 OldCoder
01:58 OldCoder VanessaE, try world at minetest.org port 30020 - It has plantlife with the four parameters all set to 20
02:06 kaeza OMG will we be able to make this with mesecons? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwHBaSySHmo&amp;feature=player_embedded
02:19 kaeza zzz
02:21 VanessaE kaeza: that's old, and probably easily done already
02:22 VanessaE though the map obviously isn't available in MT, the control system would certainly be more easily done
02:22 kaeza hmmm
02:22 * kaeza is now playing around with mesecons
02:23 VanessaE wow, that'
02:23 VanessaE that's big..
02:23 VanessaE better to do it in Lua as a mini-game the way that tetris one was done :-)
02:24 kaeza It's interesting though
02:24 kaeza I once did a transporter using piston
02:25 kaeza but exact timing is not one of the upsides of delayers
02:25 VanessaE OldCoder: just sign in and let it it idle for several in-game days
02:26 VanessaE kaeza: use microcontrollers for that.
02:26 OldCoder VanessaE, I am preoccupied; you are welcome to use it
02:26 OldCoder VanessaE, is 20 for all the constants O.K. ?
02:26 VanessaE OldCoder: actually I had the two *_chance params set to 3, spawn_delay to like 20, and grow_delay at 30
02:27 OldCoder What will 20 do?
02:27 VanessaE that gives a reasonable acceleration without eating *too* much CPU.
02:27 OldCoder k
02:27 VanessaE it'll set the ABM interval to 20 :)
02:28 OldCoder local spawn_delay  = 20 -- 2000
02:28 OldCoder local spawn_chance =  3 -- 100
02:28 OldCoder local grow_delay   = 30 -- 1000
02:28 OldCoder local grow_chance  =  3 -- 10
02:28 OldCoder ?
02:28 VanessaE yeah.
02:28 OldCoder Restarted
02:28 VanessaE I probably should make the default for grow_chance as something larger than 10..maybe 25.
02:28 VanessaE but that isn't important right now.
02:29 VanessaE sorry for the delay, btw.  Had to go take care of a couple of house chores
02:32 OldCoder VanessaE, feel free to use that world
02:32 VanessaE too tired now
02:32 * VanessaE just finished re-installing a toilet.
02:40 kaeza time to go
02:40 kaeza night everyone
02:40 VanessaE aw
02:40 VanessaE you couldn't wait for 10 more seconds after saying that for me to make a joke
02:40 VanessaE you suck :-)
02:41 kaeza lol
02:41 kaeza you have been actidentally trolled :
02:41 kaeza damn typos
02:41 kaeza accidentally*
02:41 kaeza :)*
02:42 kaeza sorry
02:42 kaeza 48 hours awake
02:42 VanessaE oh my
02:42 kaeza must get sleepness
02:42 VanessaE I used to be able to do that
02:42 VanessaE not anymore though
02:43 VanessaE good night
02:43 kaeza it's the mark of the geek
02:43 kaeza :)
02:44 kaeza night V
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02:48 leo_in-game *** singleplayer left the game
02:52 NekoGloop My GLSL is borken D:
02:53 NekoGloop no wonder nothing looked different; it isnt.
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02:57 VanessaE hey leo.
02:58 leo_in-game <singleplayer> hello
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03:03 kaeza aw let's make it 72
03:03 VanessaE hah
03:03 VanessaE well use those extra hours to build something amazing on my server :D
03:03 leo_in-game <singleplayer> it really makes my ocd sense tingle seeing that opaque water source and moving water have a different hue of blue
03:03 kaeza just a mug of coffee and back in action!
03:04 VanessaE leo_in-game: shaders?
03:04 leo_in-game <singleplayer> that might be it
03:04 kaeza VanessaE: might as well do it
03:04 kaeza hey leo_rockway
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03:05 leo_in-game <singleplayer> it's more evident with shaders
03:05 leo_in-game <singleplayer> but without shaders it can still be seen
03:06 leo_in-game <singleplayer> hello, kaeza
03:06 kaeza hey leo_in-game
03:06 kaeza how's that thing working?
03:06 leo_in-game <singleplayer> it's working well, but I haven't updated from git yet.
03:06 kaeza lalala griefing
03:06 kaeza J/K
03:07 leo_in-game <singleplayer> I like the smooth mod
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03:10 VanessaE think I'll do something productive as well...  update HDX for latest homedecor :-)
03:12 kaeza VanessaE: +(1e+4)
03:12 NekoGloop VanessaE: Successor to the cart-t-shirt! http://ompldr.org/vZ2prag
03:12 VanessaE hah!
03:13 NekoGloop I was throwing copper ingots at him, so.... :3
03:13 VanessaE weird
03:13 NekoGloop also there's bits of green that i cant tell what they are.
03:13 VanessaE looks like a ...sapling?
03:14 NekoGloop but it isnt.
03:14 VanessaE get closer
03:15 NekoGloop yup it is
03:15 NekoGloop was thinking of MC sapling, my bad.
03:18 OldCoder VanessaE, will you be using the new world to test?
03:18 VanessaE no, my own server actually
03:20 kaeza back
03:20 VanessaE wb
03:21 kaeza hmm
03:22 OldCoder VanessaE, why did you wish me to set it up then?
03:22 VanessaE OldCoder: OH you mean plantlife?  I'll check it in a while, it needs to be left running for a long while before I'll be able to tell
03:23 OldCoder VanessaE, are you there?
03:24 OldCoder It won't be active unless somebody is there
03:24 OldCoder True or false?
03:24 VanessaE I'm on my server setting up a test for HDX
03:24 VanessaE that I am not actually sure
03:27 kaeza OldCoder: what's the server?
03:27 kaeza I'd like to see it
03:28 OldCoder kaeza, minetest.org port 30020 temporary for Vanessa plant growth
03:28 OldCoder In theory lots of plants will grow quickly
03:28 OldCoder I will op you there
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03:28 kaeza k thanks
03:28 kaeza going in
03:29 VanessaE bbl, this HDX update is gonna need all my attention.
03:35 kaeza OldCoder: I can't seem to be able to connect
03:35 kaeza is the server up?
03:36 kaeza s/can/don/
03:38 OldCoder kaeza, checking
03:39 OldCoder kaeza, You simply timed out
03:39 OldCoder I have opped you there
03:39 kaeza Does it use heavyweight mods like ambience?
03:40 OldCoder Yes
03:40 OldCoder The mod is not heavyweight
03:40 OldCoder More the network code
03:40 kaeza by "heavyweight" I mean that contains big files
03:41 kaeza nvm
03:42 kaeza sorry OC. It will kill my bandwidth. Thanks for opping me though! :)
03:46 NekoGloop 猫Gloop
03:49 khonkhortisan 猫グー
03:49 khonkhortisan an imperfect translation
03:51 NekoGloop Cat goo.
03:51 NekoGloop Cat. Goo.
03:51 NekoGloop Really?
03:51 khonkhortisan is it close enough?
03:51 NekoGloop No.
03:51 NekoGloop I am not goo. :(
03:51 khonkhortisan well, what's gloop then?
03:51 NekoGloop gloop is gloop
03:52 khonkhortisan "a sticky unpleasant substance"
03:53 khonkhortisan slime, ooze, mush, sludge, pulp, jelly, goo, gunk, gunge, gloop
03:53 khonkhortisan I'm bad at translating
03:53 NekoGloop heh.
03:53 NekoGloop I think 猫Gloop would pass
03:54 khonkhortisan this is what I was thinking of https://www.google.com/shopping/product/1062906554561061214?hl=en&amp;rlz=1B7GGLL_enUS410US416&amp;q=goop&amp;bpcl=39314241&amp;um=1&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&amp;biw=934&amp;bih=752&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=TSK8UOyXI6-MigL7r4HYCQ&amp;ved=0CG0Q8wIwAg
03:54 khonkhortisan but it's missing an ?
03:54 khonkhortisan an L
03:55 NekoGloop Gloop is http://sandbox.yoyogames.com/games/179288-gloop
03:56 kaeza hey NekoGloop you use GM?
03:56 kaeza cool
03:56 NekoGloop Not much anymore but i might later on
03:56 kaeza I stopped after they became YoyoGames
03:57 kaeza last version I had was 6.0
03:57 NekoGloop 8.0 is actually excellent, even in Lite.
03:58 kaeza I once tried to do a GTA2 clone in 5.3A
03:58 kaeza failed at failing
03:58 kaeza mainly because ~12FPS was not enough
03:59 kaeza and my artistic skills SUXX
04:00 NekoGloop Well so do mine.
04:02 kaeza IDK
04:02 kaeza they look pretty "retro" to me
04:02 kaeza i.e they fit  the theme
04:03 kaeza they are pretty good
04:03 NekoGloop what does?
04:03 NekoGloop Those old prepreaplha screenshots?
04:03 kaeza yup
04:04 NekoGloop Considering i did all the images in GM's internal editor?
04:04 kaeza the internal editor is pretty good for pixel art
04:05 kaeza though I mostly used Character Raiser
04:05 NekoGloop I dunno, it's good for making minetest images too :3
04:05 kaeza (some Jap program to make chars for RPG Maker)
04:05 NekoGloop lol RPG maker.
04:05 kaeza you know it?
04:05 NekoGloop yep
04:06 NekoGloop I have 2000 and 2003 cracked. 'course, you cant really get english non-cracked ones.
04:06 kaeza care to share?
04:06 kaeza I lost mine
04:07 kaeza in a scratched CD
04:07 NekoGloop honestly, i dont have the installers anymore and I dont know the links
04:07 kaeza the freaking SOPA killed all the links to it
04:07 NekoGloop not -all-
04:08 kaeza *almost* all
04:08 kaeza It's hard to google for it
04:08 kaeza and don't count on P2P
04:10 kaeza now DL'ing Gloop
04:10 kaeza gonna test it
04:10 OldCoder http://minetest.org/
04:10 OldCoder New design for minetest.org
04:10 OldCoder Will be under reconstruction
04:10 NekoGloop gl hf with the .exe
04:10 OldCoder Logs and auth files and mod zips
04:10 kaeza just Great!!
04:10 OldCoder will all be online
04:11 kaeza LOL
04:11 kaeza Bacon
04:11 kaeza More will go here
04:11 * OldCoder shrugs
04:11 NekoGloop gl hf with the .exe, kaeza
04:11 OldCoder All the pieces will be downloadable
04:11 kaeza i read it Neko
04:11 kaeza why you say?
04:11 NekoGloop Because it's compiled for windows?
04:12 kaeza umm... Wine?
04:12 NekoGloop umm... Idk if it's compatible :3
04:13 kaeza NekoGloop: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202012-12-03%2002%3A09%3A59.jpg
04:14 NekoGloop well, have fun then.
04:16 kaeza XD
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04:49 khonkhortisan 猫マスター
04:50 khonkhortisan not your name
04:50 khonkhortisan huh. it adds a "the"
04:51 kaeza what is "猫マスター"?
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04:51 khonkhortisan I was going for 'neko master' but ended up with 'the master cat'
04:51 khonkhortisan japanese doesn't have a 'gloop'
04:52 khonkhortisan 猫のマスター Master of cat
04:52 khonkhortisan needs a plural
04:52 kaeza I'd like to learn Japanese someday. Though I only know a few lousy quotes from videogames
04:53 khonkhortisan all it takes is willpower
04:53 kaeza hmm..
04:53 kaeza how do you say "Hello" ?
04:53 khonkhortisan dunno
04:54 khonkhortisan こんにちは
04:54 khonkhortisan I just use an online translator
04:55 kaeza 5 characters to say "Hello"?
04:55 kaeza thought it would be shorter
04:55 khonkhortisan left to right it's apparently kaezaこんにちは
04:56 khonkhortisan it also has 今日は
04:57 kaeza "Today"?
04:57 khonkhortisan こんにちは or やあ or ハイ or よろしく or ハイテク I guess I shouldn't trust an online translator
04:57 khonkhortisan what are you using? I'm using google translate
04:58 kaeza google translate
04:58 kaeza not very helpful
04:58 kaeza I tried "I suck at this"
04:58 khonkhortisan it meant it as "good day"
04:58 khonkhortisan or good afternoon
04:58 kaeza got "私はこれを吸う"
04:58 khonkhortisan hahaha
04:58 kaeza entered "私はこれを吸う" and got "I suck it"
04:59 kaeza O.o
04:59 khonkhortisan "at this I suck" -> この時点で私は吸う -> I suck at this point
04:59 kaeza lol
04:59 khonkhortisan I think that's slang
05:00 khonkhortisan I'm bad at translating 私は翻訳が苦手です I am not good at translation. That one actually worked
05:03 kaeza hmm
05:03 khonkhortisan I already lost in the cpu twice. Gloop runs in witne
05:03 khonkhortisan wine
05:03 kaeza yes
05:03 kaeza runs in wine
05:04 kaeza here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202012-12-03%2002%3A09%3A59.jpg
05:05 * khonkhortisan just found the shoot button after finding the white shirt
05:05 kaeza yay
05:05 khonkhortisan now I'm stuck
05:05 kaeza it has a few bugs
05:05 kaeza it seems
05:05 khonkhortisan I can't climb to the exit I think
05:06 khonkhortisan oh double jump
05:06 kaeza double jump?
05:06 khonkhortisan yeah click twice
05:10 khonkhortisan spellling error "thru" level 3
05:14 khonkhortisan and fell down to infinity
05:15 khonkhortisan okay I'm done
05:18 kaeza that happened to me on level 7.
05:18 kaeza and somehow the exit door "killed"
05:18 kaeza me
05:31 kaeza can somebody help me set up a server?
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05:36 khonkhortisan I would if I could, myself.
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05:41 bulletrulz hhhiiii
05:43 kaeza hey bulletrulz
05:43 kaeza khonkhortisan: thanks anyway
05:44 bulletrulz lol i GOT BANNED from the mac channel for telling that linux has more market share then them
05:44 kaeza lol
05:44 kaeza cool
05:46 bulletrulz :D they said i was trolling LOL!M
05:47 bulletrulz lol they said mac didnt need trolling and they weere no viruses
05:48 kaeza +1000
05:49 bulletrulz i lauged my ass off
05:52 khonkhortisan linux as a whole?
05:52 khonkhortisan not including unix?
05:52 khonkhortisan I don't get it
05:53 bulletrulz no linux has 12% desktop now
05:53 khonkhortisan and mac gets trojans second to windows
05:53 khonkhortisan due to its multiple ways of defining file type
05:54 khonkhortisan haha don't trust a graph that only has mac and windows http://www.jacobpierce.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/figa_mac_windows.png
05:56 khonkhortisan I'm not finding the 12% stat anywhere
05:57 kaeza Windows has the "Hide extension for known file types" enabled by default, so it's not uncommon to see people open "picture.jpg.exe". They just see "picture.jpg" and assume it's a photo.
05:57 bulletrulz khonkhortisan, its bewteen 8 and 12 ussually
05:58 kaeza I don't know how a retard could've enabled it by default.
05:59 khonkhortisan it's worse than that - There are magic numbers at the beginning of the file to say the file type, plus the file extension, plus a third thing on mac I don't remember - and the web browser is set to open safe files. It opens scriptpic.png because a .png file is safe, then the "open" program executes it because the magic numbers say it should be scriptpic.sh
06:00 bulletrulz Yeah LOL
06:01 khonkhortisan I hate extension hiding. Notepad always gives me Runme.bat.txt
06:02 kaeza Also, let's be honest. Most Linux users are knowledgeable users in the field of computing (aka h4x0rz), and they think they are "gods" between humans. In most linux forums, you only get responses along the lines of "GIYF", "GTFO n00b", and suc when you ask questions that seem basic for the linux adept. Windows dumbs people, and that is a truth.
06:02 marktraceur kaeza: It's like BASIC
06:02 * marktraceur waves
06:03 khonkhortisan Also, on a school computer, I installed a program onto my flash drive, and the program (forgot what it was) acted up when I moved the flash drive between computers because it had changed the registry on the installing computer. I put it on my flash drive so it _wouldn't_ affect the computer.
06:03 bulletrulz wow some malware for linux
06:03 bulletrulz http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2012/08/31/new-trojan-backdoor-malware-targets-mac-os-x-and-linux-steals-passwords-and-keystrokes/
06:03 khonkhortisan kaeza, I've heard of that happening but haven't seen it myself
06:03 kaeza marktraceur: explain
06:04 bulletrulz kaeza, nope when ever i see a linux forum they help
06:04 kaeza oh
06:04 kaeza gotcha
06:04 khonkhortisan it doesn't tell me how the virus works. Does it run in userspace? is it a browser addon?
06:05 bulletrulz khonkhortisan, idk
06:05 kaeza marktraceur: the first time I got to a linux forum, I got a "friendly" "GIYF" when I asked "How do you open a terminal?"
06:05 bulletrulz kaeza, what linux forum?
06:05 kaeza don't remember
06:05 bulletrulz i dont think im a go
06:05 bulletrulz god
06:06 kaeza what was it...
06:06 bulletrulz Well you have to use official ones like ubuntu forums or linux mint Fedora forums are Not OFFICIAL
06:06 kaeza I don't recall the name of the distro
06:06 khonkhortisan I'd expect you to be running a windowmanager like kde, gnome and tell you to â‘  click the button on the left side of the bar at the bottom â‘¡ type "xterm" without the quotes, and press enter.
06:07 khonkhortisan that doesn't take much more time to say than giyf
06:07 kaeza for a man that has run Windows since 3.11, you don't understand the basic linux things
06:07 khonkhortisan I'd only be a god if I really knew how to pentest
06:07 bulletrulz well yes thats kinda true but you need to be pulite
06:09 bulletrulz kaeza, yeah i guess but linux is not really hard to learn
06:09 kaeza not for us at least
06:10 marktraceur kaeza: Typing "CtrlAltT" is almost as curt as GIYF and ten times as helpful, I suppose :)
06:10 bulletrulz does anyone  have quake 3 arena
06:10 bulletrulz kaeza, use linux for 5 min youll know the basics
06:10 kaeza bulletrulz: not always
06:10 khonkhortisan ctrl-alt-t doesn't work for me but ctrl-alt-backspace x 2 does (don't try it)
06:10 kaeza depends on distro
06:11 bulletrulz kaeza, ubuntu anykind of ubuntu
06:11 kaeza compare ubuntu with arch
06:11 kaeza and you get what I mean
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06:11 bulletrulz arch is for advanced people
06:11 khonkhortisan if only I could compare them. I'm stuck with neither
06:11 bulletrulz but once you got it working its compeatly awesome
06:11 kaeza BTW Ctrl+Alt+T works for me
06:12 khonkhortisan backtrack is for advanced people :P
06:12 kaeza but not Ctrl+Bksp
06:12 kaeza The first distro I got my hands on was arch
06:12 khonkhortisan for me, ctrl-alt-backspace makes the computer beep, then pressing it again logs me out. I hear it's disabled in newer oses
06:13 khonkhortisan windows 93 eventually to  suse 12.1
06:13 kaeza and I was all like "WTF??? did I change Windows for a cheap copy of DOS???"
06:14 kaeza later I got Puppy
06:14 khonkhortisan ^ on flash drive
06:14 khonkhortisan can't say much about it, due to small drive space
06:15 khonkhortisan I don't remember, is it easy to rename a minetest world?
06:15 kaeza khonkhortisan: how moch HDD space do you have?
06:16 kaeza much*
06:17 khonkhortisan 1 terabite in the computer, 256 mb on previous flash drive, 2 gb on current, 2 GB memory out of 16 possible
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06:18 khonkhortisan if only I could actually trade hard drive space for memory, without using swap
06:19 kaeza hmmm
06:19 kaeza only 2gb of disk?
06:20 kaeza I don't get you
06:20 khonkhortisan 2gb flash drive, 2gb memory, lots more hard drive
06:20 kaeza oh sorry, didn't understand "2 gb on current"
06:21 kaeza sorry
06:21 kaeza I need to read :)
06:22 khonkhortisan (256mb previous as opposed to) current 2gb [flash drive]
06:22 khonkhortisan I implied things in my sentence
06:22 kaeza yup
06:22 kaeza I need to pay more attention, sorry
06:22 kaeza hmmm...
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06:23 kaeza that's true. you have PLENTY of disk space but little mem
06:23 akerok Hello everyone!
06:23 khonkhortisan hi
06:23 kaeza helo akerok
06:23 kaeza hello
06:23 kaeza *
06:24 akerok Does anyone have a running public server up?
06:24 kaeza I can do one if you want
06:24 kaeza but you'll need remobo
06:25 akerok I actually want help.  You see, my friend and I have a server that we have been working on.  We have it working locally, but we want to put it up for public.
06:26 kaeza I want to do the same
06:26 kaeza unfortunately it seems there's no one here that knows how to
06:26 kaeza right now that is
06:27 khonkhortisan for the port 30000, you'll both need to port forward it from your router to your lan ip, and on your computer firewall allow incoming connections on that port (both TCP and UDP), then have someone test it with your public ip
06:27 khonkhortisan I got stuck at changing router settings
06:27 khonkhortisan so that's about as far as I can help
06:28 khonkhortisan other than trying to connect
06:28 akerok I'm honestly not sure what the problem is with ours.  I have forwarded the port through the router, and opened the firewall.  However, I can only get it to connect using the internal IP.  If I try to use the external IP to connect, it doesn't connect.
06:29 kaeza khonkhortisan: try this: 186.191.18.62 port 30000
06:30 akerok one sec
06:31 kaeza khonkhortisan: It seems it worked
06:31 khonkhortisan works, but I have to go
06:31 akerok All right.  Take care.
06:31 kaeza akerok: 186.191.18.62 port 30000
06:31 kaeza bye khonkhortisan
06:32 akerok I'm trying to connect now.
06:32 kaeza ya
06:32 kaeza I C U
06:32 khonkhortisan ...media is slow...
06:32 akerok It's connecting.
06:33 kaeza It has a lot of mods
06:33 akerok That's all right.  What kind of mods?
06:34 kaeza wait
06:35 kaeza WTF??? my log file is 2.1 GB!!!
06:35 akerok WOW!
06:36 khonkhortisan that's bigger than my flash drive with puppy linux on it
06:36 kaeza it has mesecons, 3dforniture, flowers, and tons of others
06:36 kaeza no mobs though
06:37 kaeza they b0rk3d the games
06:38 kaeza how's the media gauge?
06:38 kaeza errm... whatever
06:40 kaeza too much lag?
06:40 akerok No, it wouldn't rez.
06:41 kaeza hmmm
06:41 akerok I have the latest client.
06:41 kaeza I have it too
06:41 kaeza freshly built from hit :)
06:41 kaeza git*
06:42 akerok Weird.
06:42 kaeza I'll get minetest_game again
06:42 kaeza just in case
06:43 akerok All right.  Also, I'm running the one for Ubuntu Linux.
06:44 hmmmm yeah....
06:44 hmmmm if you're running a production server you should set --logfile ""
06:45 kaeza thanks hmmmm
06:45 hmmmm you probably suffered quite a bit of performance degredation from that too
06:45 hmmmm although it highly depends on the filesystem in question
06:45 kaeza akerok: I have a fresh copy of minetest_game
06:45 kaeza which mods should I add?
06:46 kaeza hmmmm: Ubuntu 12.04. I think it's ext4fs
06:46 akerok I'm running 12.10
06:47 akerok All right.  Is the server up still?
06:47 kaeza which mods should I add? I have in mind mesecons
06:47 akerok Whichever ones you wish.  Can you add mods while the server is running?
06:47 kaeza I want to keep only a few mods
06:47 kaeza no the server is down
06:47 kaeza waiting to install mods
06:48 akerok ok
06:49 akerok Let me know when the server is up.
06:51 kaeza up
06:51 kaeza akerok: ^
06:51 akerok ok
06:54 akerok It still won't rez properly.
06:55 kaeza what do you mean?
06:56 akerok When I connect to the server, I only get a small area to travel in.
06:56 kaeza oh
06:56 akerok It also gives me a warning that the server may not be completely compatable with my version of minetest.
06:56 kaeza maybe it's my crappy connection
06:59 akerok That it could be.  It just loaded a bit more.
07:02 akerok It's rezing slowely, but it's working.
07:05 kaeza Is it working better?
07:06 akerok A little.
07:11 akerok It's really slow, but works.
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07:13 kaeza hey sokomine
07:13 akerok Hello sokomine.
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07:18 kaeza hello iqualfragile
07:18 iqualfragile hello
07:19 iqualfragile hello kaeza
07:19 kaeza akerok: I will shut down server if you don't mind
07:19 kaeza what's up?
07:19 akerok Not a problem.
07:19 iqualfragile not much
07:19 akerok I'm off now.
07:21 iqualfragile me too, bye
07:21 kaeza bye?
07:22 iqualfragile goodbye
07:23 akerok Ok, then.
07:41 akerok Well everyone, I'm off for now.  Take care.
07:47 kaeza .sv
07:47 MinetestBot kaeza: Minetest.Ru main server | minetest.ru:30000   up (99.606%)
07:57 kaeza It's awfully quiet in here...
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09:04 kaeza hey
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09:07 Aqua_ Hi on my iPhone
09:26 celeron55 updated the main site: http://minetest.net/
09:28 celeron55 that'd need new screenshots... does anyone have something suitable?
09:33 kaeza celeron55: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=943#p943
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09:58 kaeza celeron55: how about this one? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1613061975.jpg
10:12 celeron55 i took a new "nature" shot myself; now some kind of an outdoor buildings shot would be good, and then a cave shot
10:12 celeron55 also they should be taken with a version that uses shaders
10:13 celeron55 something to complement the first one on the site
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10:45 VanessaE anyone still awake here?
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10:53 VanessaE meh.  off to bed.  for whoever cares:  Homedecor got a minor update, and just brought support for it in HDX up-to-date.  also added steel doors to HDX.
10:53 VanessaE night all.
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11:04 cmacis Mornin
11:18 * Calinou likes the new lighting without shaders
11:18 Calinou brightness of blocks' sides should be darker imo
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11:59 Zigz1 Hello people~
12:00 cmacis Hello
12:01 NekoGloop Meow.
12:02 Zigz1 So I looked up the leaf decay code in minetest default
12:02 Zigz1 Because i wanted to do rainbow trees
12:02 Zigz1 So I saw those confusing lines of codes
12:02 Zigz1 ..and I'm like screw this.
12:04 Zigz1 I just found out the mystery of my whole life
12:04 cmacis I've some vague ideas for a christmas tree. Fractal to keep it simple.
12:05 NekoGloop make ornaments and put them on trees. simple.
12:05 cmacis I also built the church of Emacs, but my GF mocked me for building a phallic object with scary-looking gnu on it.
12:05 cmacis More that I want to engineer a giant tree that won't lose its leaves
12:06 NekoGloop then, have the leaf decay check for other leaves.
12:07 cmacis More that I'm wanting to work within the constraints of current rules
12:07 NekoGloop do some magical crap and have it know if there's a tree left or not
12:07 cmacis And climb a giant tree of my own making
12:07 cmacis And press "r" and watch the eee grind to a halt on 1FPS
12:10 Zigz1 Hmm..
12:10 Zigz1 Leaf decay..?
12:10 Zigz1 remove leafdecay.lua and all of it's related stuff ?
12:10 Zigz1 Perhaps?
12:14 Zigz1 Crap. If I make an eatable item does =(number) mean how much it heals?
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12:23 cmacis I did not want to press that button
12:24 NekoGloop YES YOU DID
12:35 cmacis Anyone know of a half-decent pixel-art gnu? My googling only returned pixel art made with gnu software. I might try again later at building the church of EMACS
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12:37 Fabiter Hey Guys, someone there?
12:37 cmacis Just us chickens
12:37 Fabiter :D
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12:38 Fabiter Wow, thats a fast guy..
12:39 NekoGloop Meow?
12:39 Fabiter ? O.o
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12:40 NekoGloop Meow. :3
12:42 Fabiter :D
12:43 * NekoGloop curls up in a ball
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12:56 Zigz1 I have a real cat, here..
12:56 Zigz1 At home
12:57 NekoGloop Meow. :3
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13:23 sfan5 Kacey google "your mom" and "weed"
13:23 sfan5 *googled
13:29 Zigz1 Can anyone help me?
13:29 Zigz1 Peerhappss~?
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13:30 RagnarIsAwesomeA hi!
13:31 Zigz1 Hello, young adventurer! I used to be an adventurer like you, until..
13:31 * Zigz1 takes an arrow to the face
13:31 Zigz1 Complete reverse.
13:31 RagnarIsAwesomeA LOL
13:31 * RagnarIsAwesomeA agrees
13:31 sfan5 :D
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13:31 RagnarIsAwesomeA hey sfan5!
13:31 RagnarIsAwesomeA do you know python?
13:31 sfan5 .g ur mom
13:32 sfan5 RagnarIsAwesomeA: yes
13:32 RagnarIsAwesomeA i need some help with it!
13:32 sfan5 i can help you
13:32 Zigz1 sfan5, you know minetest lua a bit?
13:32 sfan5 Zigz1: yes
13:32 Zigz1 I just need an answer to a simple question
13:32 RagnarIsAwesomeA im making a quiz, but i need to know, is it possible to make it not repeat any questions?
13:32 RagnarIsAwesomeA sfan5 im making a quiz, but i need to know, is it possible to make it not repeat any questions?
13:32 sfan5 ...
13:33 Zigz1 when I make an eatable item, is the =(number) describing how much it heals?
13:33 RagnarIsAwesomeA ow yeah...
13:33 RagnarIsAwesomeA but not much
13:33 RagnarIsAwesomeA oops....
13:33 RagnarIsAwesomeA i answered to Zigz1... :D
13:33 sfan5 you could put them in an array and use   for i in range(1,len(array)): question = array[i]
13:33 RagnarIsAwesomeA i thought that sfan5 asked me :D
13:33 sfan5 Zigz1: yes, should be
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13:34 RagnarIsAwesomeA wait...my range is 10...
13:34 sfan5 you could put them in an array and use   for i in range(1,len(array)): question = array[i] @RagnarIsAwesomeA
13:34 RagnarIsAwesomeA do i change it?
13:34 sfan5 add more entries to the array
13:34 Zigz1 ಠ_ಠ I shall thank you, sfan5.
13:34 sfan5 :D
13:34 RagnarIsAwesomeA q = questions[randint(1,len(questions))]
13:34 RagnarIsAwesomeA this is my line...
13:34 Zigz1 And if I had to do python, I'd just stick to Scratch
13:34 sfan5 ....
13:34 RagnarIsAwesomeA for i in range(10):
13:35 RagnarIsAwesomeA i mean this is my range line...
13:35 RagnarIsAwesomeA do i change it?
13:35 sfan5 does it has to be (derp english) a random question?
13:35 RagnarIsAwesomeA yes, it is a RANDOM question...
13:36 RagnarIsAwesomeA and thats what im going for...
13:36 RagnarIsAwesomeA but it keeps repeating questions
13:36 sfan5 you could make an array answered_questions = {}
13:37 RagnarIsAwesomeA ???
13:37 Zigz1 REDDIT ︵ /(.□. \)
13:37 RagnarIsAwesomeA sorry, im new to python...
13:37 sfan5 and if question_number in answered_questions: next_question()
13:37 RagnarIsAwesomeA i dont understand where to put it
13:37 sfan5 ....
13:37 sfan5 wait
13:38 * RagnarIsAwesomeA wants to be drunk, when he wakes up, on the right side of a wrong bed...
13:38 Zigz1 Ragnar, you need to get a code that chooses a random question and if a question was already answered, it doesn't choose it. Based on python's word logic, you should know how to do that
13:39 RagnarIsAwesomeA umm....no...
13:39 RagnarIsAwesomeA im telling you, im new to python...
13:39 Zigz1 Crap.
13:39 Zigz1 I'm clueless
13:39 RagnarIsAwesomeA i started learning it on saturday...
13:39 sfan5 ....
13:39 * RagnarIsAwesomeA wants to be drunk, when he wakes up, on the right side of a wrong bed...
13:39 Zigz1 I don't have any python experience whatsoever, but I know that python is completely logic, and less confusing than LUA.
13:42 RagnarIsAwesomeA well...
13:42 RagnarIsAwesomeA i cant just type in...
13:42 RagnarIsAwesomeA Python.Please.Dont = "Repeat","questions"
13:43 RagnarIsAwesomeA wait...
13:43 RagnarIsAwesomeA Python.Please.Dont = (("Repeat","questions"))
13:43 sfan5 no
13:43 RagnarIsAwesomeA this is how its really...
13:43 RagnarIsAwesomeA with (( and ))
13:43 RagnarIsAwesomeA :D
13:45 RagnarIsAwesomeA so sfan5 , any advice?
13:45 sfan5 wait a sec
13:46 RagnarIsAwesomeA ok
13:46 RagnarIsAwesomeA i can give you the .py if that would help...
13:47 RagnarIsAwesomeA wait...
13:47 RagnarIsAwesomeA even better...
13:47 RagnarIsAwesomeA http://ompldr.org/vZ2pxcg
13:47 RagnarIsAwesomeA look at the code...
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13:47 markveidemanis hey
13:48 markveidemanis anyone??
13:48 sfan5 RagnarIsAwesomeA: do it like this http://beta.pastie.org/5472808
13:48 sfan5 markveidemanis: hi
13:48 RagnarIsAwesomeA wtf
13:48 markveidemanis are u using pipeworks for your oil mod?
13:48 RagnarIsAwesomeA that doesnt even look the same :(
13:49 sfan5 markveidemanis: no
13:49 RagnarIsAwesomeA hey sfan5 , can you copy my code and then tweak it and re-upload it?
13:49 sfan5 RagnarIsAwesomeA: yes
13:49 RagnarIsAwesomeA or pastie it
13:49 RagnarIsAwesomeA thanks :D
13:49 RagnarIsAwesomeA http://ompldr.org/vZ2pxcg
13:49 markveidemanis can you use it
13:49 markveidemanis also, found "bug"
13:50 RagnarIsAwesomeA what?
13:50 RagnarIsAwesomeA wait, use what!
13:50 RagnarIsAwesomeA the code?
13:50 RagnarIsAwesomeA NO!
13:50 RagnarIsAwesomeA its my code
13:50 markveidemanis if u place pipe, block under it will be turned to pipe, what if it's nyan! :)
13:50 RagnarIsAwesomeA it ISNT WTFPL
13:50 RagnarIsAwesomeA :O
13:50 RagnarIsAwesomeA LOL
13:50 RagnarIsAwesomeA ow, i thought you were talking about my code :D
13:52 sfan5 RagnarIsAwesomeA: this should help you: http://beta.pastie.org/5472855
13:52 RagnarIsAwesomeA where do i put it :S
13:54 Zigz1 Ragnar
13:54 Zigz1 You better stay, because I'm drawing something for you
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13:54 RagnarIsAwesomeA what are you drawing?
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13:57 Zigz1 You'll see, Ragnar
13:58 sfan5 RagnarIsAwesomeA: http://beta.pastie.org/5472970
13:58 sfan5 this is right
13:58 sfan5 just add your questions and answers and it works
13:59 RagnarIsAwesomeA WHERE DO I ADD THEM!!!
13:59 RagnarIsAwesomeA in what line!
14:00 sfan5 line 4
14:01 RagnarIsAwesomeA i thought i had to add them like question.append (("Question","answer"))
14:01 sfan5 RagnarIsAwesomeA: you can also do it like this: http://beta.pastie.org/private/al1nojlvbignh9hsw3aohg#4
14:01 RagnarIsAwesomeA YAY
14:01 RagnarIsAwesomeA YOU DID IT LIKE I TOLD YOU
14:01 RagnarIsAwesomeA FINALY
14:02 RagnarIsAwesomeA :')
14:02 RagnarIsAwesomeA Houston, we got a problem
14:03 RagnarIsAwesomeA doesnt open!
14:03 sfan5 what?
14:03 RagnarIsAwesomeA i said, it doesnt open...
14:04 RagnarIsAwesomeA ow :D
14:04 RagnarIsAwesomeA wait...
14:04 RagnarIsAwesomeA got it
14:04 RagnarIsAwesomeA i de-bugged it with CMD :D
14:05 sfan5 wait
14:05 RagnarIsAwesomeA yeah...
14:05 RagnarIsAwesomeA i dont see a problem there...
14:05 RagnarIsAwesomeA wait...
14:05 RagnarIsAwesomeA i dont see range anywhere...
14:05 RagnarIsAwesomeA why?
14:06 Zigz1 crapsters, 11 layers already
14:06 Zigz1 :O
14:06 RagnarIsAwesomeA lol :D
14:06 RagnarIsAwesomeA gimp/ps?
14:07 Zigz1 gimp
14:07 RagnarIsAwesomeA ok :D
14:07 * RagnarIsAwesomeA listening to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIq7pH2ExSM
14:07 * RagnarIsAwesomeA is listening to Linkin Park - High Voltage (YFM Cover) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIq7pH2ExSM
14:08 RagnarIsAwesomeA when is it ready?
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14:10 Zigz1 DONE!
14:10 RagnarIsAwesomeA finaly ;D
14:10 Zigz1 I'll upload it to imgur or something now
14:11 Zigz1 python_rage.png http://i.imgur.com/jTfcT.png
14:11 RagnarIsAwesomeA you kidding me?
14:11 RagnarIsAwesomeA you draw like my 6 year old brother :D
14:11 RagnarIsAwesomeA and even he draws faster :D
14:12 Zigz1 because he draws on paper, lmfao
14:12 RagnarIsAwesomeA still!
14:12 RagnarIsAwesomeA he cant undo and shit...
14:12 RagnarIsAwesomeA you can!
14:12 Zigz1 lol
14:12 Zigz1 I bet he doesnt know what is ctrl+z
14:13 RagnarIsAwesomeA its undo... duh!
14:13 RagnarIsAwesomeA and ctrl+y is redo
14:13 Zigz1 He doesn't even know how to do layer transparency lol
14:13 RagnarIsAwesomeA dumb shit
14:13 Zigz1 I did a black layer and transparency on that bitch
14:13 RagnarIsAwesomeA and ctrl c is copy, ctrl v is paste and ctrl x is cut
14:13 RagnarIsAwesomeA and do you know what alt+F4 does?
14:13 RagnarIsAwesomeA guess not xD
14:13 RagnarIsAwesomeA try it"
14:14 Zigz1 I know, i'm not an idiot
14:14 Zigz1 ;)
14:14 RagnarIsAwesomeA YouAreAnIdiot.org
14:14 RagnarIsAwesomeA xD
14:14 Zigz1 And if I were, I wouldn't do this http://i46.tinypic.com/2hzcrm.png
14:15 Zigz1 I actually did that myself
14:16 Zigz1 The image is not mine though, I just desaturated it and did the rainbow eyes.
14:16 RagnarIsAwesomeA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgfpJWUYgbg
14:17 * RagnarIsAwesomeA is LMAO'ing at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgfpJWUYgbg
14:17 sfan5 RagnarIsAwesomeA: http://beta.pastie.org/private/ugf6gy9idvejsz1a6lg
14:18 Zigz1 Listening to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lD8JtInkqY
14:18 Zigz1 <3
14:18 RagnarIsAwesomeA You're Pitiful!
14:19 RagnarIsAwesomeA I FREAKING LOVE WIERD AL!
14:20 celeron55 http://i.imgur.com/jTfcT.png is awesome
14:20 RagnarIsAwesomeA oh hi Celeron55!
14:20 celeron55 i don't understand what it means though
14:20 celeron55 8D
14:20 RagnarIsAwesomeA hey why is your name celeron55?
14:20 celeron55 because.
14:20 RagnarIsAwesomeA is it from a intel processor?
14:20 RagnarIsAwesomeA cause i saw a chip in my pc with a text celeron55
14:21 Zigz1 Is dis
14:21 Zigz1 Fake celeron.
14:21 Zigz1 Or nut.
14:21 RagnarIsAwesomeA hey Zigz1
14:21 RagnarIsAwesomeA you're White and Nerdy!
14:21 Zigz1 I'm not white
14:21 Zigz1 I'm tan
14:21 Zigz1 :D
14:21 Zigz1 Light tan
14:21 RagnarIsAwesomeA You're Tanned and Nerdy
14:22 Zigz1 You're right!
14:22 Zigz1 I am!
14:22 Zigz1 Good job :)
14:22 RagnarIsAwesomeA You're Light Tanned and Nerdy
14:24 * RagnarIsAwesomeA Listening To Amish Paradise
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14:25 * Zigz1 is listening to Linkin Park's meteora
14:26 * RagnarIsAwesomeA doesnt give a fuck
14:27 * Zigz1 doesn't give a fuck about your stuff either, so why the hell are you talking about it?
14:27 RagnarIsAwesomeA Perform This Way
14:27 RagnarIsAwesomeA xD
14:27 Zigz1 Instead of being mean to each other we'd just become friends and barf rainbows ~?
14:27 RagnarIsAwesomeA mkay...
14:27 RagnarIsAwesomeA NOT!
14:27 RagnarIsAwesomeA xD
14:28 RagnarIsAwesomeA wait...
14:28 RagnarIsAwesomeA Zigz1, the guy, who "Doesnt have anybody to play with" ?
14:28 RagnarIsAwesomeA OW YEAH XD
14:28 Zigz1 Oh stop being silly. Being 11 I'm even more mature than you.
14:28 RagnarIsAwesomeA hey Zigz1
14:29 RagnarIsAwesomeA no youre not!
14:29 RagnarIsAwesomeA im 13 dumbass
14:29 RagnarIsAwesomeA youre a STUPID POLSKY
14:29 RagnarIsAwesomeA xD
14:29 RagnarIsAwesomeA btw...
14:29 RagnarIsAwesomeA i saw your mom holding a tv when driving in a TRUCK
14:30 Zigz1 I doubt that because my mom can't even afford a truck, not either a plane to another country. But you know, that doesn't make me poor.
14:30 RagnarIsAwesomeA i know...
14:30 RagnarIsAwesomeA im not rich either
14:31 RagnarIsAwesomeA rich ppl are really also poor...
14:31 RagnarIsAwesomeA because nobody loves rich ppl...
14:32 RagnarIsAwesomeA so they are poor in friends...
14:32 RagnarIsAwesomeA wall brb...
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15:11 redcrab Hi  minetesters ... I ve a community question ... I ve 2 servers with interact/build privilege by default : ... a 0.3.1 and a 0.4.3 version ... the 0.3.1 still popular ... I though, that 0.3.1 player will go to 0.4.3 ... and despite the "/protect"(self anti grief) command in 0.4.3, player in 0.3.1 stay in the limited and unprotected game version ... Why ???
15:11 NakedFury have you provided links to download 0.4.3 clients?
15:12 redcrab no ...
15:12 NakedFury do they know that the new version has everything the old one has but is better?
15:12 sfan5 0.4.3 is playabe on less computers than 0.3.1
15:12 NakedFury ohh didnt know that sfan
15:13 redcrab ...the question can be ... how can they know and succeed to download and play 0.3.1 (new players) despite the display of 0.4 on minetest.net site
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15:14 NakedFury ohh you keep getting 0.3.1 players?
15:14 redcrab yep .... new player ids on 0.3.1
15:15 NakedFury can you try to bring any structures of the old server to the new one?
15:15 redcrab never tried yet .... and in fact I would like to avoid to have legacy
15:17 redcrab ... and also because I ve already have a equivalent free to build in 0.4.3 ... (merge world ?!!... no ...)
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15:39 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
15:40 STHGOM hi
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15:51 Calinou happy birthday more blocks :D
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15:52 celeron55 redcrab: i think some people like 0.3.1 because it has the fairly well working simple mobs
15:52 celeron55 and is just more "manageable"
15:52 celeron55 ...and the system requirement thing too of course
15:54 PilzAdam celeron55, are you aware of the bug of the new water shaders that the lowest flowing liquid node is not visible (its drawn in the node under it)?
15:54 celeron55 ye
15:54 celeron55 +s
15:55 celeron55 the shader can do nothing about it, except overally lower everything less; it has to be implemented in C++ sometime (differently than new_style_water)
15:56 PilzAdam or reduce the pitch of the flowing water if shaders are used
15:56 PilzAdam would be a bit hacky
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16:12 celeron55 well... maybe; but it shouldn't be too hard to just make it in C++ and have it work for everybody then
16:16 Jordach celeron55 - could you point me the supported shader formats in irrlicht (or whatever you used)? im working on a sonicether type modification
16:17 thexyz why is food mod licensed under CC BY NC SA?
16:17 thexyz it makes me sad =(
16:18 Jordach because making money off free things is wrong
16:18 celeron55 no it isn't
16:18 celeron55 we value free as in freedom, not free as in beer
16:23 NakedFury freedom and free beer(in my case switch with coca cola) would be nice too
16:25 PilzAdam can i have ice cream instead of beer or cola?
16:26 Jordach heh
16:29 sfan5 i'd like an answer to this too: Jordach> celeron55 - could you point me the supported shader formats in irrlicht (or whatever you used)? im working on a sonicether type modification
16:30 celeron55 irrlicht directly feeds shaders to the underlying graphics backend
16:31 celeron55 if you use opengl, it's glsl
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16:31 Zeg9 Hello
16:32 sfan5 hi Zeg9
16:32 Jordach right
16:33 Calinou what happens if you try to use shaders when using direct3d/software? :P
16:33 * Jordach will be using OpenGlsl 2.x
16:33 sfan5 Calinou: i assume glsl too
16:33 * Jordach has 2.1 so things should work
16:33 Jordach D:
16:33 * Calinou has opengl 4.2
16:33 Jordach and?
16:34 Calinou i could get 4.3 with experimental driver :p
16:34 * Jordach DNGAF
16:34 celeron55 Calinou: i haven't implemented any hlsl shaders (the d3d ones), so it will fail like software
16:34 Calinou k
16:34 thexyz poor windoz guys
16:34 * sfan5 has opengl 2.1 AND 4.2
16:34 Jordach actually, just remove Direct3D suport altogether
16:34 celeron55 i won't be implementing any d3d shaders
16:34 celeron55 if somebody wants, they can be included
16:35 celeron55 (ones that do the same thing as the opengl shaders)
16:35 sfan5 thexyz: poor because they use windows? ;)
16:35 Calinou you can use opengl on windows..
16:35 celeron55 Jordach: of course not
16:35 Calinou so they're not poor :p
16:35 sfan5 Calinou: you can!
16:35 thexyz ok, poor windoz guys with bad videocards
16:36 celeron55 windows users are poor because buying windows took all of their money 8)
16:36 * Jordach looks at people with laptops from 200x
16:36 celeron55 alternatively, criminals
16:36 Calinou 200x?
16:37 Calinou ah
16:37 Calinou nvm, i thought it was a brand :p
16:37 sfan5 celeron55: could you please add some comments to the shaders in the main branch?
16:37 sfan5 .g 200x laptops
16:37 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1EF0FA4922
16:37 Calinou celeron55: "buy a computer without an OS, pay more than a computer with windows" --OS-less computer vendors
16:37 sfan5 thats not what i wanted :/
16:37 Calinou so true i'm still buying computers with windows then remove windows on it
16:38 sfan5 :D
16:38 sfan5 .g "200x laptops"
16:38 MinetestBot sfan5: No results found for '"200x laptops"'.
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16:38 Jordach .g alienware linux
16:38 MinetestBot Jordach: http://www.ehow.com/how_5986463_install-linux-alienware-laptop.html
16:38 markveidemanis hi
16:39 sfan5 hi marktraceur
16:39 Jordach hello
16:39 sfan5 oops
16:39 sfan5 hi markveidemanis
16:39 markveidemanis in unified inventory...
16:39 markveidemanis can i set stack size to 999?... how?
16:40 Calinou with source code change, yes you can
16:40 Calinou not with a lua mod
16:40 Calinou and of course, tools cannot be made stackable
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16:40 Jordach max_stack = 999, add this to all lines
16:40 Calinou since amount is wear for tools
16:40 Jordach (in lua mods)
16:40 Calinou Jordach: not a proper way of doing things :)
16:40 Jordach Calinou - but better in this case :3
16:41 markveidemanis i can make tools stack, just /giveme <tool> number more than 1
16:41 markveidemanis i dont know, gonna try
16:41 thexyz sfan5: can you make your bot to post into chat when somebody makes a commit into minetest or minetest_game repo?
16:41 NakedFury ^excellent idea
16:41 sfan5 thexyz: yes
16:41 markveidemanis nodename for wood shovel??
16:41 Jordach good ol' RSS feed
16:41 Calinou markveidemanis: no, it'll just reduce their wear..
16:42 Calinou it's a tool
16:42 Jordach itemname name
16:42 Calinou not a node :p
16:42 sfan5 but it would be better if somebody else runs it, so its really 24/7
16:42 thexyz Jordach: does github have rss?
16:42 thexyz sfan5: i can host it
16:42 Jordach i think so
16:42 Calinou it does, iirc
16:42 thexyz oh, it has atom feed
16:42 sfan5 thexyz: FYI the bot is based on this: http://inamidst.com/phenny/
16:43 sfan5 .g cookies
16:43 MinetestBot sfan5: I don't feel like doing that right now...Ask me later!
16:43 sfan5 :(
16:43 markveidemanis my fps deops from 40 to 20 when i open unified inventory
16:43 Calinou do you have "preload item visuals" enabled?
16:44 Calinou celeron55: are features frozen for 0.4.4? could you merge my minetest_game branch if it is not?
16:44 OldCoder Back
16:44 Calinou wb
16:44 OldCoder ty
16:44 OldCoder Calinou, http://minetest.org/ will be reconstructed this month to be useful
16:44 markveidemanis good mod for server?
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16:46 * markveidemanis is afk
16:46 Calinou OldCoder: screenshot uses mc textures :|
16:47 OldCoder Calinou, which one?
16:47 OldCoder There are plenty of screenshots to choose from
16:48 Calinou main page
16:49 sfan5 thexyz: where can i find the atom feed of celeron55/minetest and celeron55/minetest_game
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16:51 thexyz sfan5: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commits/master.atom
16:52 sfan5 thx
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16:54 Zeg9 Hey OldCoder
16:55 sokomine hi
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17:00 * VanessaE wanders in.. hi all.
17:00 Zeg9 Hello
17:01 * STHGOM thinks minetest is cool!
17:01 VanessaE what's news?
17:03 Jordach VanessaE been fixing a very outdated mod
17:03 VanessaE STHGOM: you have good taste :-)
17:03 STHGOM thank you
17:03 VanessaE Jordach: did you see last night's updates from me?
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17:03 Jordach http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=54889#p54889 and no
17:03 VanessaE homedecor got a minor tweak, HDX got a sizable update.
17:03 jin-xi hi all
17:04 VanessaE hey jin-xi.
17:04 jin-xi hey i have a question: it is possible for a mod to redefine existing nodes, right?
17:04 jin-xi like, ehm, all the default oned
17:04 Jordach yes
17:04 jin-xi s
17:04 Jordach just re-define them as you would normally
17:04 jin-xi ok
17:05 Jordach just as long as depends.txt has default
17:05 Calinou VanessaE: lol'd at HDX's nyancat
17:05 VanessaE Calinou: that's been there for a while.  at least it's worth a 'lol' rather than 'creepy' :-)
17:05 jin-xi here is my idea: ima try to use lua and mt's noise function to make lo-fi procedural textures...
17:06 markveidemanis hi
17:06 VanessaE that should be interesting
17:06 jin-xi so your ores look different in every world
17:06 jin-xi and such.
17:06 markveidemanis who has a private server i can go on
17:06 Jordach +and grief
17:06 STHGOM what is "some exeption: access" when you try to join sometimes?
17:06 Zeg9 Why private? x)
17:07 markveidemanis coz i want to fly:)
17:07 VanessaE markveidemanis: mine's up.
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17:07 markveidemanis address?
17:07 Calinou STHGOM: access violation
17:08 VanessaE STHGOM: look at debug.txt or the console - that'll probably be an 'access violation' which means your copy of minetest is not built to work on your machine.
17:08 Jordach hehe, STHGOM's pc got violated!
17:08 STHGOM okkkkk
17:08 VanessaE markveidemanis: 24.181.193.82 port 30000
17:08 Calinou Jordach: it'll be the pc's fault if he switches to linux :p
17:09 Jordach :P
17:09 Calinou STHGOM: minetest requires a SSE2-compliant processor
17:09 Calinou or, was it SSE?
17:09 * Jordach finds sfan5 builds faster than msc++
17:09 iqualfragile wtf?
17:09 iqualfragile you dont know?
17:09 STHGOM umm...
17:09 VanessaE Calinou: doesn't the access violation usually refer to a video mode issue?  D3D vs. OpenGL or some such?
17:10 iqualfragile celeron55: the new design stunned me at first
17:10 iqualfragile but its allright
17:10 STHGOM then why did Zeg9's server work just a couple minutes ago?
17:10 Calinou VanessaE: that too, maybe
17:10 sokomine i usually get the "some exception:" without further comment. but that is still 0.4.3 and not the newest
17:11 Calinou STHGOM: try using opengl by putting "video_driver = opengl" (without quotes) in minetest.conf
17:11 markveidemanis loading...
17:11 markveidemanis just loading media now...
17:11 * Jordach turns up some bass
17:11 Jordach better
17:11 markveidemanis freenode sometimes doesn't screll down when there are new posts
17:11 markveidemanis #scroll
17:12 markveidemanis 1%/sec
17:12 markveidemanis vanessae
17:12 Jordach then use a real irc clienyt
17:12 Jordach client
17:12 VanessaE hm?
17:12 markveidemanis how did u set up server??
17:13 * Jordach facepalms
17:13 VanessaE markveidemanis: very carefully?
17:13 VanessaE ;)
17:13 markveidemanis with all the port forwarding and such...
17:13 markveidemanis 60%...
17:13 STHGOM its working now...
17:14 VanessaE port....forwarding?
17:14 markveidemanis yes
17:14 VanessaE oh, you must mean those poor souls who use dedicated routers :-)
17:14 Jordach like me
17:14 markveidemanis huh?
17:14 VanessaE I don't use such a monster.  I let my PC handle that job via its normal firewall software.
17:14 VanessaE so it doesn't have to port forward, as it is also the machine that runs the minetestserver instanc.
17:14 VanessaE +e
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17:15 Calinou VanessaE: how do you manage to connect your computer(s) to the internet without a router?
17:15 Calinou since when normal ISPs let you do that...
17:15 markveidemanis after, can you test my server, i THINK i set up port forwarding:)
17:15 Calinou try canyouseeme.org to check
17:15 markveidemanis 99%...
17:15 markveidemanis black screen.
17:16 VanessaE give it time.
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17:17 markveidemanis im on!
17:17 VanessaE cool
17:18 VanessaE 12:11 to 12:17, so 6 minutes.  Not bad for the initial download time for 20MB of media :-)
17:18 markveidemanis how do i clear chat, lol just typed /mods
17:19 VanessaE er...  no idea :-)
17:20 markveidemanis go on server, discuss pipeworks :)
17:21 markveidemanis and grant me interact :)
17:21 VanessaE sec.
17:22 khonkhortisan Does anyone know how to trick port triggering into being port forwarding?
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17:22 Jordach what do we look likie? Loki?
17:22 khonkhortisan Who's that?
17:22 brobostigon hello again, sorry for my asceance, have been very unwell.
17:22 brobostigon abscance*
17:23 sfan5 does the regex "*" math to anything?
17:23 Jordach ho hey
17:23 Jordach oh
17:23 brobostigon hey Jordach
17:23 sfan5 *match
17:23 thexyz . matches everything
17:24 thexyz * means the last pattern may be repeated any number of times
17:25 brobostigon i just got my server backups out, tried to restart my server, it starts, but i cant connect to it, i have check that the port is open, and dont see any errors. any ideas?
17:25 marktraceur sfan5: Did you need something from me earlier?
17:25 khonkhortisan run wireshark or something similar so you can see what's saying what
17:27 markveidemanis k
17:27 brobostigon khonkhortisan: i have an xmpp server runing on the same server, and can connect to that fine, so i know networking etc works, also i am connected to it with ssh.
17:27 markveidemanis vanessae: crashed
17:27 VanessaE markveidemanis: sowwy :-)
17:27 Jordach there, concrete by RAPHEAL fixed
17:27 VanessaE markveidemanis: chat console/F10 crash?
17:27 markveidemanis i relog...
17:27 markveidemanis loading much faster now
17:28 VanessaE yes, you've got all the media now, so it'll be faster
17:28 brobostigon also, am i right in saying, it should run fine, as a normal debian user, ?
17:28 marktraceur brobostigon: What port are you using?
17:28 markveidemanis black screen!!]
17:29 brobostigon marktraceur: i have tried 30000 and now am trying 1500
17:29 markveidemanis arrrrgggghh
17:29 marktraceur brobostigon: I'm not sure 1500 will work as well
17:29 VanessaE crashed again?
17:29 marktraceur brobostigon: There's some cutoff below which you need root privs to bind to a port
17:29 brobostigon marktraceur: 30000 the standard, didnt work either.
17:29 VanessaE marktraceur: 1024.
17:29 marktraceur brobostigon: It might be ~1024, but 30000 is for sure going to work :)
17:29 brobostigon marktraceur: ok, let me try that port again,
17:30 OldCoder Zeg9, PM
17:32 brobostigon marktraceur: same result, gets stuck on connecting to server, and nothing logs server end, as to something trying to conenct to it.
17:33 marktraceur brobostigon: You've triple-checked that the address is correct?
17:36 sfan5 marktraceur: i accidently hightlighted you
17:37 sfan5 thexyz: shouldn't it be ".*" ?
17:37 thexyz depends on what are you trying to achieve
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17:37 thexyz sfan5: http://gskinner.com/RegExr/
17:37 thexyz very useful
17:38 sfan5 thank you
17:38 Jordach see david_ the link works, dont it
17:38 david_ hi :D
17:38 david_ yep!
17:38 david_ :)
17:38 marktraceur sfan5: What exactly do you want to match? Regexes are fun.
17:38 sfan5 ...
17:39 sfan5 . matches every char   .* machtes one line
17:39 thexyz don't tell me you're trying to parse XML using regex
17:39 david_ Always this many people? :)
17:39 marktraceur sfan5: That's correct, yes
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17:39 marktraceur sfan5: But only because regexes usually implement . as being 'anything but a newline', which is probably very wrong
17:39 OldCoder thexyz, it is basically impossible for me to build the current branch for Windows. I can build Boost fine. But cmake refuses to find Boost no matter how I beg it to do so. I removed LevelDB from the code and then it built. But it crashes. thexyz can you give me a way to build the code without (a) MySQL (b) Boost (c) LevelDB ?
17:39 sfan5 thexyz: no
17:40 Jordach david_ yes, type this command /nick davidpace
17:40 david_ okay, why?
17:40 davidpace oh
17:40 Jordach it changes your name to the correct forum member
17:40 thexyz OldCoder: did you see that https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/326 ?
17:40 davidpace :)
17:40 OldCoder thexyz, R
17:40 Jordach awesome shader use http://ubuntuone.com/751RyY2dy2u4bDF9Hl7Sa1
17:40 davidpace Thanks Jordach
17:40 VanessaE OldCoder: plantlife seems to be stable.  also, homedecor and HDX got updated last night.
17:40 marktraceur sfan5: (^|\n)[^\n]* would probably do the job as well, and not be confusing based on what we understand as "every character"
17:40 OldCoder VanessaE, ty
17:41 OldCoder thexyz, a dummy backend is already in the code. Regardless, is that available as a diff please?
17:41 davidpace Any way to do a pm?
17:41 marktraceur davidpace: /msg
17:41 davidpace oh thanks
17:41 Jordach /msg <username> <actual message>
17:41 thexyz OldCoder: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/326.diff
17:41 iqualfragile http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1732348/regex-match-open-tags-except-xhtml-self-contained-tags/1732454#1732454 parsing xml using regex
17:41 davidpace Thanks!
17:41 thexyz iqualfragile: +1 for the link
17:41 brobostigon marktraceur: the ip works, the hostname, which point to it, which is same as my xmpp server, which works. doesnt.
17:41 OldCoder thexyz, thank you and I will try again today.
17:41 Jordach and yes RealBadAngel is here
17:42 thexyz OldCoder: there's no mysql in that patch
17:42 OldCoder thexyz, what about MySQL ? I get error messages for that even if I turn it off
17:42 davidpace Okay
17:42 OldCoder thexyz, I have manually deleted it from the source but fear there may be mistakes there
17:42 thexyz why do you need to build windows client with leveldb support?
17:42 Jordach OldCoder - why not remove the cout << stuff here
17:42 marktraceur brobostigon: So your hostname works for XMPP but not for minetest?
17:42 OldCoder thexyz, I am trying to build it *without* leveldb support
17:42 OldCoder Not *with*
17:43 markveidemanis vanessae, plz test my server
17:43 brobostigon marktraceur: exactly.
17:43 thexyz OldCoder: then just don't use leveldb patch
17:43 OldCoder thexyz, it is not a patch!
17:43 VanessaE no :-)
17:43 marktraceur brobostigon: Mind giving me the hostname? I can try from here.
17:43 VanessaE marktraceur: what's the host+port?
17:43 OldCoder thexyz, it is the code I am using; the fork I have prepared. I need to be able to disable leveldb
17:44 brobostigon marktraceur: jabber.taylorworld.me.uk
17:44 VanessaE damn it
17:44 VanessaE not marktraceur...
17:44 VanessaE markveidemanis: host + port?
17:44 OldCoder thexyz, I started with your leveldb branch. Added patches from upstream and fixes of my own. Now I simply wish to build a Windows client. But cmake won't find Boost. So I wish to disable leveldb. And there are MySQL errors.
17:44 * OldCoder shrugs
17:44 OldCoder Ports are fun!
17:45 thexyz OldCoder: well, i'm no longer maintaining this fork; we've decided that c55 will implement some sort of backend support and then leveldb will exist as a patch
17:45 markveidemanis console server not work
17:45 OldCoder :-)
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17:45 markveidemanis tried to runin console
17:45 OldCoder thexyz, you are not able to comment on how to disable LevelDB then?
17:45 PilzAdam !up minetest.ru
17:45 markveidemanis ok, multiplayer game:)
17:45 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.ru:30000 UP
17:45 OldCoder thexyz, C55 proposal may take months
17:45 markveidemanis ummm...
17:45 OldCoder thexyz, I have users right now
17:45 markveidemanis need to find my ip
17:45 VanessaE markveidemanis: ipconfig or ifconfig, from a terminal.
17:46 marktraceur brobostigon: Works for me
17:46 markveidemanis no, i got it
17:46 markveidemanis typed ip in google
17:46 davidpace Is there anyway to make it so it automatically scrolls down for you?
17:46 marktraceur brobostigon: Question, have you ever successfully logged into the server with the username you're using? If so, can you try a different username?
17:46 markveidemanis 213.123.65.242
17:46 brobostigon marktraceur: weird. hmm, ok thank you.
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17:46 celeron55 has this been tested? https://github.com/redcrab/minetest/commit/588db4fcc4b17ca0a884cbebb2b9d1f9ee5b0db7
17:46 markveidemanis failed to bind socket
17:46 brobostigon marktraceur: i have yes, it is the same username and password, as it was on my old server.
17:47 thexyz OldCoder: i can only suggest you to update to latest master and merge my patch (new one)
17:47 Jordach celeron55 - what does that do
17:47 thexyz then leveldb is disabled by default
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17:47 thexyz enable it using cmake -DENABLE_LEVELDB=1
17:47 VanessaE celeron55: if redcrab authored it, it's probably been tested to death.  He's kinda anal about that. :-)
17:47 marktraceur brobostigon: Sometimes a session will stick around after a crash. If a different username works and your usual one doesn't, you may need to restart the server to kill the session.
17:47 VanessaE (hi redcrab  ;)  )
17:47 Jordach oh my bad, thats a minetestmapper
17:47 brobostigon marktraceur: or could it just be dns issue here, as ip works, but not hostname. and xmpp works from bitlbee on my other vps.
17:48 markveidemanis ok, its up port 30001
17:48 marktraceur Oh, well yeah
17:48 marktraceur brobostigon: You didn't say you were trying the two services from different machines :)
17:49 VanessaE markveidemanis: no good.
17:49 brobostigon marktraceur: i had thought, it was a different issue. hence didnt see it as something that should be mentioned.
17:49 markveidemanis just started it now:)
17:49 OldCoder thexyz, there is no way to merge LevelDB into upstream ATM as C55 does not plan to add the framework for a while. Upstream is all crashy also. If you will not help with disable LevelDB for Windows I will continue to try. I thank you for LevelDB regardless. It has made things much better.
17:49 * OldCoder is on an errand
17:49 * OldCoder back soon
17:49 markveidemanis its up now
17:50 VanessaE markveidemanis: still not working.
17:50 brobostigon marktraceur: ok this is weird, i fired up pidgin, on my desktop here, and it connects to it. same hostname, hmm.
17:50 thexyz OldCoder: well, i've already pointed you here https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/326
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17:50 thexyz and i still don't understand why do you need to build windows client using leveldb-patched sources instead of clean ones
17:51 marktraceur brobostigon: So I wonder again if it's the session hanging around
17:51 brobostigon marktraceur: so it isnt a dns issue.
17:51 iqualfragile brobostigon: wich hostname?
17:51 celeron55 i won't bother reading all of your discussion, but make sure you aren't trying to use ipv6 addresses
17:51 marktraceur brobostigon: Unless you've already tried restarting the server, I'd try now.
17:51 davidpace
17:51 brobostigon marktraceur: server end, it shows as i left game.
17:51 marktraceur iqualfragile: I've already confirmed it works for me, so it's his machine for sure
17:51 brobostigon marktraceur: ok. moment.
17:52 thexyz VanessaE: https://github.com/VanessaE/plantlife/blob/master/plants/init.lua~
17:52 iqualfragile i could recommend using !up hostname for testing
17:52 VanessaE thexyz: dammit, I thought I had a .gitignore for those.
17:52 markveidemanis server is up on port 30001 , console mode now
17:52 VanessaE huh.
17:52 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~/Minetest-Textures-and-mods/mods/plantlife$ cat .gitignore
17:52 VanessaE *~
17:53 * VanessaE shrugs and deletes the offending files.
17:53 Jordach VanessaE - gedit much>
17:53 redcrab celeron55 VanessaE : my pull request concerned the python script only , and was tested in context of my usage ... for instance the error occurs when you want to genmap a far in north/or/south area
17:54 brobostigon marktraceur: same result, restarted the  server.
17:54 marktraceur Jordach: Why would you reroute STDOUT from gedit? That just seems a bit random.
17:54 iqualfragile !up jabber.taylorworld.me.uk
17:54 markveidemanis try my server:)
17:54 moltenbot Minetest server jabber.taylorworld.me.uk:30000 UP
17:54 markveidemanis and how do i connect to local server??
17:54 VanessaE Jordach: yup.  syntax highlight, good search+replace, grouped indenting..  it's a decent editor these days, if it would just stop un-highlighing and un-selecting on click.
17:54 VanessaE markveidemanis: 127.0.0.1 port whatever
17:54 iqualfragile enter 127.0.0.1 as hostname
17:54 marktraceur brobostigon: Maybe Minetest is using some weird way of looking up DNS entries, give it a bit to figure things out
17:55 Calinou VanessaE: gedit uses zeitgeist, ftl
17:55 markveidemanis ty, works
17:55 Calinou geany ftw
17:55 brobostigon marktraceur: leave it trying to connect ?
17:55 VanessaE Calinou: wfm :-)
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17:55 davidpace redcrab: could you add sokomines locks mod to your 0.4.3 server?
17:55 marktraceur brobostigon: Maybe just disconnect for a while, or use the IP address, or something
17:55 brobostigon marktraceur: ok, thanks for the help . :)
17:55 markveidemanis im in
17:56 markveidemanis vanessae, try to connect
17:56 Jordach davidpace - redcrab only adds things if they be stable
17:56 davidpace its not?
17:56 Jordach anyone got a 0.4.4-dev server going?>
17:56 markveidemanis me
17:56 markveidemanis i think
17:56 VanessaE Jordach: me.
17:56 davidpace ip port?
17:56 Jordach actually one i can get to preferrably
17:56 markveidemanis 213.123.65.242:30001
17:56 Jordach VanessaE PM me
17:56 VanessaE Jordach: 24.181.193.82 port 30000
17:57 VanessaE markveidemanis: no good.
17:57 markveidemanis it load??
17:57 celeron55 redcrab: i am mostly concerned about version compatibility; that easily breaks when you fix it
17:57 VanessaE markveidemanis: it doesn't even connect.
17:57 markveidemanis why??
17:57 markveidemanis i set up port forward...
17:57 davidpace Jordach: Why is your name all in red? Are you a moderator?
17:58 Jordach because its a colour
17:58 Jordach there are no moderators, only operators
17:58 davidpace Everyone elses are black -.-
17:58 VanessaE markveidemanis: it is for this reason that I refuse to use a router and insist on my modem being a direct feed to my PC without some dumbass NAT/firewall/whatever running
17:58 markveidemanis it not work...
17:58 davidpace Are you a operator?
17:59 VanessaE my PC is perfectly capable of being the firewall, I don't need some extra piece of hardware doing that for me and just getting in my way.
17:59 Jordach thexyz - to show that your a op, just kick me for a few seconds
17:59 davidpace O_O
17:59 Jordach anyone with a @before them
17:59 Jordach is op
17:59 Jordach was kicked by VanessaE: Jordach
17:59 Jordach joined #minetest
17:59 VanessaE per your request, Jordach  :-)
17:59 davidpace Cool
17:59 Jordach see, thats a mod = op
18:00 davidpace okay
18:00 VanessaE a chanop can kick, ban, set certain channel control modes, and one or two other things.
18:00 Jordach and of course mute
18:00 Jordach (you cant talk)
18:00 davidpace Why is all of VanessaE's other posts without an @?
18:00 Jordach the forum and irc are separate
18:01 davidpace ahhh okay
18:01 Jordach thexyz cancel the request please
18:01 markveidemanis vanessae: plz help me setup server:)
18:01 thexyz oh
18:01 Jordach VanessaE demo'd
18:01 thexyz i just wanted to test that
18:01 Jordach but thanks anyways
18:01 VanessaE davidpace: because I normally don't carry op status around with me, most of us don't.
18:01 thexyz were you testing auto-rejoin?
18:01 davidpace Okay!
18:01 davidpace :D
18:02 VanessaE davidpace: you'll only see an @ if the person talking has oper status at that moment.
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18:02 Jordach thexyz - no, to show davidpace what an op is
18:02 thexyz ok
18:02 Jordach (new guy to irc)
18:02 davidpace Thanks for introducing me to this :)
18:03 davidpace When was this "irc" setup?
18:03 iqualfragile wtf?
18:04 iqualfragile srsly?
18:04 VanessaE davidpace: IRC has been around since the early days of the internet, 20+ years I suppose.
18:04 iqualfragile are you kidding me?
18:04 davidpace I'm talking about for minetest
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18:04 iqualfragile ah, well, thats something different
18:04 marktraceur iqualfragile: What are you asking about?
18:04 VanessaE davidpace: you mean "when was this IRC channel set up?".  that I don't know, perhaps 2 years ago? :-)
18:05 davidpace I knew how long irc has been here :)
18:05 davidpace Okay
18:05 iqualfragile i thought he did not know that irc has been around forever
18:05 iqualfragile was a litle bit dazed
18:05 marktraceur Ah yes
18:05 davidpace haha, I knew about this from when I first started using the pc
18:06 marktraceur In the beginning, there was chaos. And Jarkko said, "Let there be IRC." And there was IRC. And it was good.
18:06 davidpace :-)
18:07 PilzAdam In the beginning, there was chaos. And Jarkko said, "Let there be IRC." And Chuck Norris answered: "Say please!"
18:07 davidpace So whenever someone mentions your nickname there name turns red for that post?
18:07 thexyz davidpace: depends on your client
18:07 thexyz you may be using telnet as well
18:08 davidpace Alright
18:08 marktraceur PilzAdam: The only thing I can think to say is http://www.stallmanfacts.com/
18:09 thexyz > Stallman knows of an unfixed bug in TeX
18:09 Calinou > promotes FOSS
18:09 thexyz nah, can't be true
18:09 Calinou > releases stuff he writes with CC BY-ND
18:09 OldCoder Back
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18:10 OldCoder <thexyz> and i still don't understand why do you need to build windows client using leveldb-patched sources instead of clean ones
18:10 marktraceur > Richard Stallman never showers: he runs 'make clean'.
18:10 OldCoder thexyz, I am reasonably sharp but I confess I don't understand the preceding
18:10 marktraceur > When Richard Stallman gets pissed off he doesn't swear, he recurses.
18:10 marktraceur And I'll leave you to it on that note
18:10 OldCoder As I said I'll continue to try
18:10 VanessaE *groan*
18:10 OldCoder thexyz, I am not using "patched" sources in that sense
18:11 OldCoder They are your db_backends branch. I will try to pull your main branch if it is fully compatible otherwise.
18:11 OldCoder Regarding the other "pull" I will review that as well
18:11 OldCoder Thank you
18:11 thexyz you should better use celeron55's master branch
18:11 * OldCoder sighs
18:12 OldCoder thexyz, that branch is not compatible with 0.4.3
18:12 thexyz minetest/minetest was not updated for a long time
18:12 thexyz OldCoder: revert to commit when it was compatible
18:12 OldCoder thexyz, I have 18 worlds and active users. I cannot switch to something broken that crashes and does not have LevelDB
18:12 thexyz it's git, remember
18:12 OldCoder thexyz, I am aware of this
18:12 thexyz weren't we talking about building client, not server?
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18:13 OldCoder thexyz, Yes. I have patches of my own against your branch. I need to use that branch for now. Kind of busy IRL. Have spent more time on this than I can afford.
18:13 OldCoder thexyz, Thanks again for the feature. It was a major step forward for the project.
18:13 OldCoder thexyz, I'll keep you and others posted
18:13 celeron55 hanging on irc doesn't probably do any good to that
18:14 OldCoder celeron55, hmm?
18:14 celeron55 to the time usage 8)
18:14 Fabiter joined #minetest
18:14 Fabiter Good evening. :D
18:14 OldCoder celeron55, I like you but we don't quite communicate. I am literal. If people ask questions I must answer. Oddly you yourself don't seem to understand the answers.
18:14 OldCoder Fabiter, Hi!
18:14 VanessaE "The more complex the mind, the greater the need for the simplicity of play."
18:15 OldCoder Indeed
18:15 Fabiter All right?
18:15 OldCoder Right or write it is a sight
18:15 redcrab celeron55 : regarding compatibility issue .. my tests were done with Python 2.6.8 on linux 32 bits
18:15 Fabiter Mhh, dont know.. Sry! :) But you know what i mean? :D
18:16 OldCoder No
18:16 Calinou hi Fabiter
18:16 Fabiter Hey Calinou. :)
18:16 Fabiter Can i join a Server? (A Server of yours? )
18:17 Jordach > Richard Stallman doesn't get compiler warnings. He warns the compiler.
18:17 Calinou minetest.org port 30003
18:17 Calinou noone plays on "my" server though :/
18:17 Fabiter :D
18:18 Fabiter Yeah, the first server, that will be works! :D
18:18 OldCoder Calinou, then publicize it. It is a fine world!
18:18 OldCoder Except for that odd trampoline trap :-(
18:18 davidpace Is it any good?
18:18 iqualfragile !up minetes.org 30003
18:18 moltenbot Minetest server minetes.org:30000 UP
18:18 Jordach you just stand still for 20seconds
18:18 VanessaE Jordach: Chuck Norris doesn't get compiler warnings.  It's too afraid to do anything but return true. :-)
18:18 thexyz how do i specify port to moltenbot?
18:18 moltenbot Hi, thexyz
18:18 thexyz hi, moltenbot
18:18 moltenbot Hi, thexyz
18:18 thexyz hi, moltenbot
18:18 moltenbot Hi, thexyz
18:19 thexyz nah, he's stupid
18:19 sfan5 thexyz: the rrs module is doen
18:19 Jordach bullshit, Chuck Norris is beaten irl by kung-fu legends
18:19 sfan5 Hi, moltenbot
18:19 moltenbot Hi, sfan5
18:19 davidpace Chuck Norris?
18:19 sfan5 *done
18:19 Fabiter How long, does it loads? (The Connect to the Server? )
18:19 thexyz now what if we put two moltenbots and say hi, moltenbot?
18:19 moltenbot Hi, thexyz
18:19 OldCoder Fabiter, depends
18:19 sfan5 Hi, moltenbot
18:19 moltenbot Hi, sfan5
18:19 davidpace Hi moltenbot
18:19 sfan5 hi MinetestBot
18:19 moltenbot Hi, davidpace
18:19 MinetestBot Hello sfan5!
18:19 sfan5 Hi, moltenbot
18:19 moltenbot Hi, sfan5
18:20 sfan5 hi MinetestBot
18:20 MinetestBot Hello sfan5!
18:20 sfan5 hi moltenbot
18:20 moltenbot Hi, sfan5
18:20 sfan5 hi MinetestBot moltenbot
18:20 moltenbot Hi, sfan5
18:20 davidpace hi moltenbot
18:20 moltenbot Hi, davidpace
18:20 sfan5 hi MinetestBot moltenbot
18:20 moltenbot Hi, sfan5
18:20 PilzAdam ...
18:20 davidpace CAN WE STOP THIS? :D
18:20 OldCoder Yep
18:20 celeron55 redcrab: i am talking about map format compatibility
18:20 MinetestBot left #minetest
18:20 Fabiter OldCoder: Thanks. :D
18:21 OldCoder No more bot wars I hope
18:21 thexyz sfan5: have you updated it?
18:21 sfan5 thexyz: what?
18:21 celeron55 redcrab: more specifically, i assume you fixed it for the newest version; the question is, does it still work with older ones?
18:21 thexyz sfan5: to post commits
18:21 sfan5 yes
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18:22 davidpace hi babyface1031
18:22 babyface1031 hi
18:23 Fabiter I love this game, more than Minecraft..
18:23 Jordach mhm, shaders look lovely
18:23 Fabiter :3
18:23 davidpace Shaders?
18:23 iqualfragile thexyz: try !help
18:24 Jordach davidpace - like sonicethers mod
18:25 davidpace I do not know what that is.,...
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18:27 VanessaE heyjeija.
18:27 Doc22 it adds 3-D lighting to minecraft
18:27 davidpace coolio
18:27 VanessaE Doc22: it also adds 3D lighting to minetest :-)
18:27 Doc22 oh really?
18:27 VanessaE shaders do anyway
18:27 Doc22 ill look it up
18:28 davidpace cooooooooooool
18:28 VanessaE the ones currently being used do.
18:28 davidpace redcrabs server is the most popular server out there! :) And the best (in my opinion)
18:29 Jordach VanessaE - the old lighting model is still there with the shaders
18:29 VanessaE Jordach: yeah I know
18:30 redcrab celeron55 : I tested it on 0.4.3  ... not before ... sorry ... We should have tester with map 9000x9000 that is use with xmin xmax zmin zmax parameter to subdivide the map generation (When I subdivide, I consume less memory, and I ve less often "database locked" message) ....
18:31 VanessaE redcrab: if you *really* wanna stress it, go for the full ~31000x31000 :-)
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18:31 sfan5 !g test
18:31 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.test.com/
18:31 saschaheylik_ joined #minetest
18:31 sfan5 yay
18:32 Jordach huzzez..
18:32 Jordach GLSL shaders are mean
18:33 FreeFull Jordach: Why?
18:33 * Jordach needs to learn more
18:33 redcrab VanessaE : The land should be generated with same average rate :D ... for instance my curretn world is 5.3Gb for environ 10000x10000 ... so envrion with 40Gb generated land :D
18:33 FreeFull Jordach: It's like C, but not C
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18:34 redcrab VanessaE :  Oops no .. environ 50Gb !
18:34 VanessaE redcrab: wait, what?
18:34 VanessaE 50 GB?
18:34 VanessaE !?
18:34 * Taoki constantly crashes on RedCrab's server using the latest GIT
18:35 redcrab VanessaE : to have a good stress test quality ....
18:35 VanessaE Oh I see what you meant
18:35 VanessaE (5.3GB and the world is still in one piece? :-) )
18:36 VanessaE good luck getting to 10GB, let alone 50GB with sqlite :-)
18:36 redcrab My database has curretnly environ 530000 blocks with 5.3GB in a single file
18:36 redcrab extrapolate to 30000x30000 ...:)
18:37 thexyz you'd better switch to leveldb
18:37 marktraceur Are database transactions done in Lua yet? :P
18:38 * marktraceur dreams of one day writing a mod called mongodb_dal
18:38 NekoGloop Is minetest in Lua yet?
18:38 marktraceur NekoGloop: It really *should* be
18:39 marktraceur NekoGloop: I set off trying to set up main-menu mods last week, but didn't get very far
18:39 NekoGloop The C++ end should just be loading the Lua source.
18:39 iqualfragile celeron55: you are missing a / on minetest.net:
18:39 iqualfragile <img src="images/minetest-icon-120.png" alt="logo" id="logoimage">
18:39 iqualfragile should be
18:39 VanessaE redcrab: thexyz is right - you should switch to the LevelDB branch ASAP before you lose your world.
18:39 iqualfragile <img src="images/minetest-icon-120.png" alt="logo" id="logoimage"/>
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18:39 markveidemanis hi
18:40 markveidemanis anyone got a server up??
18:40 iqualfragile !up oldcoder.org
18:40 NekoGloop iqualfragile: I think his bot timed out.
18:40 OldCoder Hi
18:40 Calinou <redcrab> My database has curretnly environ 530000 blocks with 5.3GB in a single file
18:40 Calinou challenge: host a server with fat32 filesystem
18:40 iqualfragile right… i have stopped it
18:40 OldCoder iqualfragile, you must specify which port
18:40 marktraceur markveidemanis: minetest.libreplanet.org 30000
18:40 iqualfragile !up oldcoder.org
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18:41 VanessaE Calinou: masochistic much? ;)
18:41 babyface1031 hi OldCoder
18:41 iqualfragile not realy, it assumes 30000
18:41 NekoGloop !up oldcoder.org:30000
18:41 OldCoder babyface1031, Hi!
18:41 moltenbot Minetest server oldcoder.org:30000:30000 DOWN
18:41 OldCoder iqualfragile, But I have lots of worlds
18:41 OldCoder Try them all!
18:41 OldCoder :-)
18:41 NekoGloop !up oldcoder.org:30001
18:41 moltenbot Minetest server oldcoder.org:30001:30000 DOWN
18:41 iqualfragile !help
18:41 moltenbot Try !up <hostname.org> !ping <hostname.org> [<port>] !date [timezone]
18:41 NekoGloop !up oldcoder.org
18:41 moltenbot Minetest server oldcoder.org:30000 UP
18:41 iqualfragile read nekogloop, read
18:41 NekoGloop iqualfragile: Most bots here are half-assed without a help command.
18:41 Jordach NekoGloop it only checks default port
18:42 markveidemanis libreplanet; not work
18:42 PilzAdam !up minetest.ru 12345
18:42 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.ru:30000 UP
18:42 marktraceur markveidemanis: Define "not work"
18:42 babyface1031 30004 is up
18:42 markveidemanis can someone help me test my server??
18:42 NekoGloop !up minetest.org [30001]
18:42 iqualfragile !up oldcoder.org 30001
18:42 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.org:30000 UP
18:42 moltenbot Minetest server oldcoder.org:30000 UP
18:42 iqualfragile oops
18:42 iqualfragile one moment :D
18:43 markveidemanis 213.123.65.242;30001
18:43 iqualfragile !die
18:43 marktraceur markveidemanis: What isn't working on the libreplanet world?
18:43 iqualfragile -.-
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18:43 NekoGloop !lol
18:43 iqualfragile !up oldcoder.org 30001
18:44 markveidemanis just a sec. retry
18:44 OldCoder Space
18:44 iqualfragile !up oldcoder.org 30001
18:44 moltenbot Minetest server oldcoder.org:30000 UP
18:44 OldCoder Yes
18:44 marktraceur iqualfragile: Why do you insist on testing your bots here
18:44 OldCoder Hmm
18:44 OldCoder marktraceur, good point
18:44 OldCoder iqualfragile, ^
18:44 OldCoder iqualfragile, less bot more thought
18:44 marktraceur iqualfragile: You know there are other channels on this network
18:44 markveidemanis oh, .org lol wrote .net
18:44 OldCoder Yes. Even ##bacon I assuume
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18:44 Calinou marktraceur: the libreplanet server should have a forum thread imo
18:44 Calinou few players notice it
18:45 iqualfragile well, im gona take care of that later…
18:45 iqualfragile !die
18:45 marktraceur Calinou: I think we're sort of easing into the launch, for a few different reasons
18:45 marktraceur Calinou: One of the big reasons being that I'm not always around to grant privs
18:46 marktraceur Calinou: The other being that the bulletin apparently isn't final yet, but should be soon
18:46 markveidemanis nothing works: i have 3 minetests open, 1 running server, 1 connected to different server and 1 trying to connect
18:46 Calinou bulletin?
18:46 markveidemanis can soeone test my server
18:46 marktraceur Calinou: http://fsf.org/bulletin/2012/fall
18:46 markveidemanis 213.123.65.242:30001
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18:47 markveidemanis how i connect to local server??
18:48 VanessaE 127.0.0.1
18:48 VanessaE and whatever port it's on
18:48 VanessaE that's how I sign into my server (the one you were on earlier)
18:48 markveidemanis soz i forgot
18:49 Calinou "GNU MediaGoblin and FSF team up to crowdfund the future of media publishing, " oh god not again
18:49 markveidemanis try my server
18:49 Calinou >avoids SaaS
18:49 markveidemanis 213.123.65.242:30001
18:49 Calinou >supports SaaS thingy
18:49 marktraceur Calinou: GMG will be federated, so
18:50 marktraceur Calinou: More like Software as a Software
18:50 Calinou also, our image/video/music viewer ought to be enough for everybody
18:50 Calinou and apache dirs too
18:51 marktraceur Calinou: Have you tried GMG? It's pretty nice.
18:52 Calinou yeah, worth the $60000 people donated </sarcasm>
18:52 Calinou it locks us down to an image/video/music viewer i don't want
18:52 markveidemanis vanessae
18:52 marktraceur Calinou: $42000, but whatever
18:52 markveidemanis try my server
18:52 marktraceur Calinou: And you can download the media easily, so it's not a lock-in
18:52 Calinou yes, but it doesn't encourage people to view the files with whatever they want
18:53 Calinou no wonder why i get 30 downvotes when i say steam is evil DRM stuff... make donation campaigns for better things :|
18:53 marktraceur Calinou: Well, all web viewers are supposed to enable quick previews of media, then you download what you really like for offline viewing
18:53 markveidemanis VanessaE
18:53 VanessaE I'm not playing right now
18:54 markveidemanis ok
18:54 * VanessaE tries it...
18:54 VanessaE no good, markveidemanis.
18:54 Jordach markveidemanis - im going to do this on the behalf of #minetest - shush
18:54 markveidemanis so it not work??
18:54 Calinou marktraceur: we don't need a fancy html5 thingy to do that, just saying :P
18:54 Jordach no, it does not
18:55 Calinou and yet, the guy making it got $42000..
18:55 Jordach Calinou - and you wonder where all the c/c++ coders are
18:55 Calinou :>
18:55 Jordach sitting around doing nothing because html5 is a flawed design
18:55 Jordach (and frankly its slow as shit on android and iOS
18:55 Jordach =)
18:56 marktraceur Calinou: Considering that a less-skilled Flickr engineer would likely be paid $90,000 per annum to produce 1/5 of the functionality that paroneayea is going to make....I'd say we got an OK deal
18:56 markveidemanis vanessae, is there an alternative to port forwarding
18:56 Jordach html5 is a OSS flash
18:56 Jordach markveidemanis - nop there is not
18:56 Jordach -p
18:56 VanessaE markveidemanis: configuring your hardware to not get in your way.
18:56 markveidemanis like hamachi??
18:56 marktraceur Calinou: Oh, and of course, GMG will be AGPL, as opposed to the Flickr Private License
18:56 Jordach no one will use it
18:56 VanessaE hamachi?  DIAF.
18:57 Jordach s/DIAF/DIGAF
18:57 Jordach VanessaE - you missed a G
18:57 VanessaE G?
18:57 Jordach "give"
18:57 VanessaE Die In Give A Fire?
18:57 marktraceur Jordach: Die In A Fire
18:57 marktraceur Jordach: You're thinking of DGAF, which is totally different
18:58 Jordach i though of a different term
18:58 Jordach it involves fuge and not caring :)
18:58 Jordach fudge*
18:58 OldCoder Fugue State perhaps
18:58 VanessaE fudge?
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18:58 OldCoder Fudge State is probably more fun
18:58 VanessaE the word is "fuck".
18:58 OldCoder Nah
18:59 OldCoder Fudge is a word unto itself
18:59 markveidemanis oldcoder
18:59 VanessaE "Don't say [fudge]... if you're gonna use the F-word, go for the gold."
18:59 OldCoder Indicating that one will bury one's self in chocolate
18:59 OldCoder markveidemanis
18:59 Calinou marktraceur: 2012 -- noone uses flickr
18:59 markveidemanis help me setup port forward and server plz
18:59 OldCoder markveidemanis, very well but talk in the channel and others may chip in
19:00 OldCoder What is your setup? Do you have a router?
19:00 markveidemanis ok
19:00 marktraceur Calinou: Well. Whatever the kids are using. DeviantArt or Picasa or some other non-free shit.
19:00 VanessaE we can't help you with that very well without knowing your hardware and software configuration.
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19:00 thexyz deviantart is awesome
19:00 markveidemanis i have bt router and i think i setup port forward in the config...
19:00 VanessaE marktraceur: what, doesn't everyone have their own host+domain these days? :-)
19:00 markveidemanis but it not work
19:00 Jordach http://www.ohloh.net/p/minetest-c55/estimated_cost : we shave spent almost a million dollars in costs
19:00 NekoGloop s/awesome/shit/
19:01 markveidemanis well, when others try to connect, thats what they say... :)
19:01 Jordach (if we had salaries)
19:01 OldCoder markveidemanis, There may not be much we can do as we can't see it. Can you describe the steps you took?
19:01 thexyz NekoGloop: why?
19:01 OldCoder markveidemanis, you may need to find a network IT type friend who can go to your PC and look at it
19:02 markveidemanis i found out my internal ip address, typed in address bar, typer router admin pass, selecter port forwarting>configure>app name = minetest, port 30000-30001, translate to = nil
19:02 markveidemanis um, can u
19:02 markveidemanis like with teamviewer
19:02 VanessaE translate to nil?  maybe that's wrong?
19:03 markveidemanis vanessae: your server has too many light updates, i think someone set up a mesecons lagg machine
19:03 marktraceur VanessaE: I have my own domain and I run my own GMG instance, yes :) but sadly most people don't realize this is possible.
19:03 redcrab VanessaE : on https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/branches I do not see any "LevelDB" branch ... ?..?
19:04 VanessaE redcrab: use thexyz's repo I guess
19:04 markveidemanis no, have 2 attributes: translate to nil and translate 30000-30001 to 30000-30001 the same, should work
19:04 Jordach markveidemanis im going against my standards here
19:04 thexyz marktraceur: wtf is GMG?
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19:04 Jordach im going in to help
19:04 Calinou ²gnu mediagoblin
19:04 markveidemanis can i post screenshot?
19:04 thexyz redcrab: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/326
19:04 VanessaE markveidemanis: you want to translate to 30000-30001 I guess.
19:04 MinetestBot matttpt commited to celeron55/minetest: Add #include guards to base64.h a47b829040
19:04 MinetestBot PilzAdam (PilzAdam) commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Use the group attached_nodes https://gi
19:04 VanessaE translate to nil probably effectively blocks them
19:04 Calinou erm, he authored, not comitted :p
19:04 markveidemanis going to post screenshot...
19:04 sfan5 yay
19:05 markveidemanis ummm... how??
19:05 sfan5 Calinou: whatever
19:05 Jordach markveidemanis - i sent you a pm
19:05 Calinou marktraceur: pay me a VPS then, if you want this to be possible
19:05 Calinou and the domain
19:05 VanessaE markveidemanis: how would we know?  it's your router :-)
19:05 Jordach if its a british telecom router i could probably do it
19:06 Calinou low-end vpses start at 12 euros/month (with taxes), this means 144 euros/year, if i want to buy a computer every 3 years, this means i "lost" 434 euros that i could use in computer
19:06 Jordach (saying that i have one too, but i use belkin)
19:06 Calinou and hosting server in my house is no-no, bandwidth is too low
19:06 Calinou (electricity isn't free, too)
19:06 marktraceur Calinou: I host a server over DSL, seems to work OK
19:06 * Jordach has fee electric at night
19:06 Jordach free
19:06 Calinou 0.3mbps upload bandwidth > sure... :/
19:06 Calinou will make people download @ 50kb/sec at most
19:07 marktraceur Calinou: I'm SSH'd in all day at work, and I get acceptable speed from the webserver
19:07 Calinou (and that uses all my upload, making me lag)
19:07 VanessaE Calinou: given the current state of Minetest's networking code, that's more than most people will actually be able to get anyway
19:07 NekoGloop markveidemanis: Try a later minetest-build
19:07 Calinou i might get optic fiber in a few months :>
19:07 VanessaE and running a server 24/7 will only add around $5 to your monthly bill if the server is recent and the code is lightweight (which minetestserver tends to be)
19:08 Jordach Calinou same ere
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19:08 Jordach markveidemanis_ click my name on the right please#
19:08 Jordach and hit query
19:08 redcrab thexyz : is not yet merged ... Thanks for the info..  When ready I will need help to do the migration ...
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19:09 Calinou VanessaE: i have no server computer ;)
19:10 Calinou 2 laptops (a 17" with fairly good hw and a netbook)
19:10 Calinou and this desktop
19:10 Jordach OldCoder and thexyz can do this
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19:10 Jordach for you redcrab
19:10 OldCoder Hmm?
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19:10 thexyz redcrab: it won't be merged
19:10 Calinou might consider making a server at home if i get optic fiber though
19:10 OldCoder What does he need?
19:10 MinetestBot matttpt commited to celeron55/minetest: Add #include guards to base64.h a47b829040
19:10 MinetestBot PilzAdam (PilzAdam) commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Use the group attached_nodes 3928eccf74
19:10 VanessaE Calinou: any dusty old desktop less than 10 years old is good enough.
19:11 neko259 Did ABM mechanism change in 0.4 stable from the old 0.4 dev? My tree growing acts very strange again.
19:11 Calinou VanessaE: i know, i wouldn't host a minecraft server anyway :)
19:12 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZ2p3MQ EWWWW
19:12 VanessaE heh
19:12 Calinou neko259: old = ?
19:12 VanessaE NekoGloop: ew what?
19:12 VanessaE ^^^^ my server
19:12 Calinou neko259: very strange?
19:12 NekoGloop The blue crap
19:13 VanessaE twait, wtf?
19:13 * VanessaE gets on to look
19:13 Calinou ^ what happens when you have an AMD GPU
19:13 Calinou :p
19:13 thexyz NekoGloop: will you answer my question?
19:13 redcrab : ((     ...    <thexyz> redcrab: it won't be merged
19:13 neko259 Calinou: With 1 ABM event my sapling grows on the ground, it grows into a trunk, and the trunk grows up continiously until it reaches the sky. I have a very tall tree.
19:13 VanessaE NekoGloop: looks okay to me with default textures. disable texture atlas?
19:14 Calinou she said
19:14 neko259 But all of that grows have chanse value, they don't have to grow so far it one step.
19:15 celeron55 sfan5: could you make that show the dates of the commits?
19:15 sfan5 celeron55: yes
19:16 celeron55 hmm, i wonder how you should handle the author date and the commit date
19:16 celeron55 probably don't care about author date at all
19:17 iqualfragile btw: i think its great that there is so much progress on minetest
19:21 iqualfragile smooth day/night looks great
19:25 NekoGloop Now make it so there's generated structures.
19:25 Calinou now add hunger, experience, abandoned mineshafts, rain
19:26 Calinou and it'll be AWESOME
19:26 Calinou </sarcasm>
19:26 NekoGloop sans hunger, yes.
19:26 NakedFury can the hunger and other similar systems be added by lua instead of source?
19:26 NekoGloop once we can print crap to the screen, yes.
19:27 Calinou theorically
19:27 Calinou but there would be no hunger bar :p
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19:27 NakedFury so new bars[for hunger or drowning or armor or some other use] would need source code modifications?
19:27 Calinou drowning is possible in lua, no bar though
19:27 NekoGloop yep
19:28 Calinou yes, new bars need source mod
19:28 Calinou gtg now, bye
19:29 simion314 ecraft
19:30 simion314 sorry
19:36 Zeg9 Gotta go.
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19:37 VanessaE Is there anything I can do to an ABM to force the 'pos' variable to be at least somewhat random?
19:38 VanessaE (over large areas abms have a tendency to create patterns if you're also controlling for density of the objects being added by it)
19:38 Jordach math.random(<num>,<num>
19:38 Jordach +)
19:38 Jordach i = math.random(1,-1), pos.y = i
19:39 Jordach pos.y = pos.y + i
19:39 Jordach better
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19:40 iqualfragile fixed it
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19:41 iqualfragile !up oldcoder.org 30001
19:41 moltenbot Minetest server oldcoder.org:30001 DOWN
19:41 iqualfragile timed out, was starting
19:41 iqualfragile !up oldcoder.org 30001
19:41 moltenbot Minetest server oldcoder.org:30001 UP
19:41 PilzAdam Taoki, how do i get the attachment parent of an object in Lua?
19:42 marktraceur VanessaE: Is the density-of-objects check something that the engine does, or is your mod doing it alone?
19:42 marktraceur VanessaE: I guess my question is just a front for "Can you use a larger area for the density check?"
19:43 marktraceur VanessaE: If you only use the minimum, then of course a pattern will emerge, but if you check the density in a larger area then the ABM's default randomness should have more meaning
19:44 Jordach !up europe.minetest.org
19:44 moltenbot Minetest server europe.minetest.org: DOWN
19:45 Jordach !up 213.123.65.242
19:45 moltenbot Minetest server 213.123.65.242: DOWN
19:45 iqualfragile gml… now it fails when not giving a port
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19:45 iqualfragile i should create another script wich feeds testcases to the bot and then checks if the output is correct
19:46 Jordach !up 213.123.65.242 30000
19:46 moltenbot Minetest server 213.123.65.242:30000 DOWN
19:46 iqualfragile is one secnd of time to answer enought?
19:47 iqualfragile i could increase that to 2 or 3
19:47 Jordach !up 217.43.103.216 30000
19:47 moltenbot Minetest server 217.43.103.216:30000 DOWN
19:48 Jordach my ports should be open dammit
19:48 Jordach !up 217.43.103.216 30000
19:48 moltenbot Minetest server 217.43.103.216:30000 UP
19:48 Jordach yep
19:48 Jordach dont use singleplayer derp
19:49 iqualfragile so the bot is helpfull?
19:49 iqualfragile !die
19:49 Jordach yes
19:49 sfan5 iqualfragile: yes
19:49 Jordach it helps when testing port forwarding
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19:50 iqualfragile !up minetest.org
19:50 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.org:30000 UP
19:50 iqualfragile ah, great
19:50 NakedFury I am playing there with a guy called Shaun
19:53 Jordach RealBadAngel - are you around?
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19:56 RealBadAngel yeah, just woke up
19:57 klunk so hello have a good day !
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20:02 Minetest-tan GIT: matttpt commited to celeron55/minetest: Add #include guards to base64.h a47b829040 2012-12-03T09:44:54-08:00
20:02 Minetest-tan GIT: PilzAdam (PilzAdam) commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Use the group attached_nodes 3928eccf74 2012-12-01T05:39:23-08:00
20:03 thexyz !g minetest
20:03 Minetest-tan thexyz: http://minetest.net/
20:04 klunk where chtuputru minetest?
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20:04 klunk hello ohn
20:05 marktraceur klunk: Good question!
20:05 klunk john
20:05 klunk sorry, I thought bot catch minetest word to put a answer : epic fail trial ...
20:06 sfan5 !sv
20:06 Minetest-tan sfan5: Jordach's Pixel Art | redcrab.suret.net:30402   up (95.348%)
20:11 klunk §sv -help
20:11 klunk !sv -help
20:11 Minetest-tan klunk: AviActu Global Minetest Server (0.4.3) | aviactu.info:30000   up (96.051%)
20:11 sfan5 klunk: sv gives you a random server from http://servers.minetest.ru/
20:12 klunk ooook, thanks, is there a.... -help somewhere to deal with this bot ?
20:12 sfan5 no
20:12 klunk ))
20:13 sfan5 but the commands are !wik !sv !g !gc and !tw
20:13 sfan5 you can also do this:
20:13 sfan5 hi Minetest-tan
20:13 Minetest-tan Hey sfan5
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20:16 klunk ok real thanks; you confirm only me saw output of commands ?
20:16 klunk I mean when I write a command for a bot here is everybody see output result
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20:16 thexyz klunk: you may PM her as well
20:19 klunk oh yes thanks I will try that, so that no flood for other :-)
20:21 klunk bbl
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20:30 PilzAdam bye
20:31 tim_ hi
20:33 tim_ is there a worlds end anywhere ?
20:33 marktraceur tim_: 'round 32K in all directions
20:35 tim_ ;.)
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20:37 marktraceur tim_: I'm not joking, that's the boundary
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20:38 tim_ how long does it take to travel 32k blocks in RL ?
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20:39 marktraceur tim_: 32K blocks is a different story
20:39 marktraceur tim_: But each node is 1 meter, so it's roughly like running a marathon and then some, I suppose
20:40 marktraceur My bad, less than a marathon
20:40 NakedFury takes a long time
20:40 NakedFury the terrain isn't flat
20:40 NakedFury so you would have to move around a lot
20:41 marktraceur tim_: World record time for a marathon is 02:03:38 in hours
20:41 marktraceur So I gotta figure ~1.5 hours in real life
20:42 NakedFury http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Far_Lands
20:42 NakedFury read that
20:42 tim_ hmm, i had lost my mine, because i died, and now i can not find i anymore.
20:43 tim_ haha
20:43 NakedFury about how long it would take in minecraft to reach the Far lands, around 820 hours
20:46 tim_ my son loves this game so much
20:47 marktraceur tim_: Two things, next time, don't die, also, mark your mine with some aboveground structure
20:47 NakedFury and three press f5 and write down the coordinates
20:47 NakedFury x y z
20:48 iqualfragile !die
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20:50 marktraceur *nod* good point, NakedFury
20:52 tim_ f5 is good. thanks
20:52 NakedFury I always do that first
20:52 NakedFury too easy to die
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20:59 tim_ what to read first if someone want to do a mod?
21:00 thexyz http://api.minetest.net/ http://wapi.minetest.ru/Main_Page https://raw.github.com/celeron55/minetest/master/doc/lua_api.txt
21:00 RealBadAngel another mod :)
21:00 RealBadAngel and the docs of course
21:01 RealBadAngel but existing and working mods are the best source of examples
21:01 * Jordach is heading off to bed now
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21:14 sfan5[iPod] !commands
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21:38 Uberi hey, anyone see Jeija around recently?
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21:46 iqualfragile ok… that took me some time
21:46 iqualfragile *some* time
21:46 iqualfragile http://api.minetest.net/
21:46 moltenbot iqualfragiles link: Minetest API
21:46 iqualfragile https://raw.github.com/celeron55/minetest/master/doc/lua_api.txt
21:46 moltenbot iqualfragiles link:
21:47 iqualfragile http://wapi.minetest.ru/Main_Page
21:47 moltenbot iqualfragiles link: Minetest API
21:47 Uberi does anyone have an offline copy of the api site?
21:48 iqualfragile !re
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21:52 bulletrulz hiii!!!!!LLLO
21:53 Uberi hey bulletrulz
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22:20 iqualfragile !define LCD
22:21 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: lcd definition: an electronic display (as of the time in a digital watch) that consists of segments of a liquid crystal whose reflectivity varies according to the voltage applied to them.
22:21 iqualfragile yaay
22:21 iqualfragile !help
22:21 moltenbot Try !up <hostname.org> !ping <hostname.org> [<port>] !date [timezone] !define
22:25 marktraceur iqualfragile: Why are you still testing your bot in here
22:25 iqualfragile i am not
22:25 marktraceur And yet, the above exchange suggests that you are
22:25 iqualfragile thats called showing off
22:26 marktraceur iqualfragile: Congratulations, you're a master of if statements and HTTP requests
22:26 iqualfragile nah, thats not me, thats the caffeine in my venes
22:27 marktraceur iqualfragile: There's caffeine in your venereal diseases?
22:28 VanessaE another update to plantlife if anyone cares.  figured out a simple solution to the random vs. patterns issue I mentioned.
22:28 marktraceur VanessaE: What was it?
22:28 iqualfragile vein
22:29 iqualfragile s/venes/veins
22:29 marktraceur iqualfragile: That's good, then. You may also want to learn about regular expressions while you're all hopped up.
22:29 VanessaE marktraceur: well normally I use a minetest.env:find_node_near(pos,radius,nodelist) call to keep the plants from growing too close together
22:29 marktraceur *nod*
22:29 VanessaE I solved it by adding math.random(-1.5,2) to the radius parameter.
22:29 marktraceur Ah, perfect
22:30 iqualfragile what are you implying marktraceur?
22:30 iqualfragile that was just a vim-command
22:30 VanessaE of course it's perfect - that's because *I* wrote it ;)
22:30 marktraceur iqualfragile: I'm implying that you have no idea how regexes work because you failed to write a valid one just now
22:31 iqualfragile as i explained: put that into the command-mode of vim and it will replace the right word
22:32 iqualfragile and i _do_ have an idea how regexes work
22:32 marktraceur iqualfragile: I'm also extremely peeved at you "showing off" trivial achievements in your bot project in this channel.
22:32 VanessaE marktraceur: if you want the code, it's on my github repo
22:32 marktraceur VanessaE: No, I was interested in the solution to the problem, but not the mod :)
22:32 iqualfragile wait a moment: you said you would leave if some bot would be able to do timezoned dates?
22:33 iqualfragile !date canada
22:33 moltenbot Mo 3. Dez 22:33:04 canada 2012
22:33 VanessaE well it's at https://github.com/VanessaE/plantlife in case you want it later :-)
22:33 marktraceur *nod* cheers
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22:34 iqualfragile well, *I* think i won the discusion but that might be seen differently from another perspective
22:35 VanessaE brb
22:48 Taoki LOL! When the lighting bug causes 3D players to show black, there's a short moment when I get the impression they're an enderman. Because they look like a player and are black :P
22:48 Taoki Until I remember it's minetest, and they're not that tall either
22:55 RealBadAngel lol
22:55 RealBadAngel hi Taoki
22:56 Taoki hi
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23:22 VanessaE Ah the american standard toilet - a nice idea...until it starts to leak.
23:26 NakedFury leaky toilets are never good
23:28 RealBadAngel why not
23:28 RealBadAngel theyre perfect to floot the wc
23:28 NakedFury wc?
23:28 RealBadAngel *flood
23:28 iqualfragile toilet
23:37 iqualfragile !die
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23:38 iqualfragile !die
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23:39 RealBadAngel lol
23:40 RealBadAngel !lol
23:40 RealBadAngel doesnt work? ;)
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23:53 iqualfragile no lols were given
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23:57 Dogzilla131 who can help me, tell me what i did wrong in the code. http://pastebin.com/eb8mxPYC

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