Time Nick Message 00:00 NekoGloop ? 00:00 kaeza I love these things: http://cheezburger.com/6594805248 00:00 VanessaE it's better than inventory plus. get that 0.4.4 build I pointed to, to into the Settings menu and turn item preload ON, then join my server and try it out 00:01 NekoGloop will it have bags? :P 00:01 VanessaE yep. 00:02 NekoGloop and, have you found the mod i didnt delete? :) 00:02 VanessaE inventory search, a mondo inventory page size, bags, home position set/go, and eventually craft guide. 00:02 VanessaE no I have not. 00:02 VanessaE "didn't" delete? 00:03 NekoGloop If you're gonna be a grammar nazi, at least punctuate correctly. 00:03 NekoGloop Haha. 00:04 NekoGloop s/punctuate/capitalize/ 00:04 VanessaE grammar nazi FAIL 00:04 VanessaE :-) 00:04 NekoGloop grammar nazi nazi FAIL, you mean. 00:05 NekoGloop I remember hearing something about carts being upstream now, is the carts mod neccessary? 00:06 OldCoder Hi 00:06 NekoGloop And I probably have to update every mod i have :P 00:06 VanessaE no, they are not upstream. 00:06 VanessaE but the code needed to make them work is. 00:06 OldCoder I build Windows clients and will update soon. I promised NekoGloop a month ago. 00:06 NekoGloop VanessaE: Then point me to them. 00:06 marktraceur kaeza: What do you mean, it doesn't craft tools? 00:06 NekoGloop OldCoder: Forget it already. 00:06 OldCoder No 00:06 kaeza I tired making a cobble pick 00:07 kaeza didn't work 00:07 kaeza wait 00:07 marktraceur kaeza: So you put the recipe in the recipe slot, at least two sticks and 3 cobble in the source material, and a fuel source in the fuel slot 00:07 marktraceur kaeza: Right? 00:08 kaeza I believe sticks are fuel, right? 00:08 marktraceur kaeza: They should be....try something else just in case 00:08 NekoGloop VanessaE: I'll sort out mods later. Your server is where? 00:08 VanessaE NekoGloop: I believe this is the right carts mod: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2451 00:08 VanessaE my server is 24.181.193.82 port 30000 00:09 VanessaE warning: 00:09 VanessaE it is slow to low and subject to frequent restarts, as I also use it for testing stuff. 00:09 VanessaE slow to LOAD that is. 00:09 marktraceur kaeza: Can you screenshot the factory menu so I can confirm that you're doing the same thing I think you are? :) 00:09 kaeza marktraceur: strange 00:09 kaeza it does not work with sticks 00:10 kaeza but works with trees 00:10 marktraceur kaeza: It looks like sticks aren't fuel 00:10 kaeza WTF??? it works with sticks now too!! 00:11 kaeza hmmm.... 00:11 marktraceur Uhhh 00:11 kaeza catched the problem 00:11 kaeza found the problem 00:11 NekoGloop loading... loading... loading... 00:12 * NekoGloop goes to play some elevator music 00:12 kaeza It seems my IRC mod was timing out, and hung the game for a few mins 00:12 marktraceur Aha. 00:12 marktraceur kaeza: Mind retracting your bug report on the forum? :) 00:12 kaeza okay 00:13 marktraceur Also, remember that the ABM may be a bit resource-intensive. Having a lot of factories may cause some trouble. 00:13 marktraceur I'll see if I can't fix that in the next version 00:14 kaeza there 00:14 NekoGloop VanessaE: Y U NO INTERACT MEH :( 00:14 VanessaE because I am not on the server. gimme a sec 00:14 kaeza has no "interact" privs :) 00:15 kaeza hmm... 00:15 VanessaE by default I don't grant interact, lest a griefer learn of this server. 00:15 kaeza marktraceur: done 00:15 VanessaE NekoGloop: done. 00:15 NekoGloop Where the hell are you lol 00:15 VanessaE I'm already off again :-) 00:15 NekoGloop s/are/were 00:15 VanessaE er...I didn't actually look :D 00:16 VanessaE near the spawn anyway 00:16 NekoGloop Do you have my creeper hoodie skin? 00:16 VanessaE I believe so, lemme go look 00:17 VanessaE (I'm running tests in another minetest instance also) 00:17 VanessaE OMG, CREEPER!!!!! 00:17 VanessaE :) 00:18 VanessaE with a headset? 00:18 NekoGloop yeah 00:18 VanessaE (and hoodie) 00:18 NekoGloop I've got a new one now that I made from scratch :P 00:18 VanessaE download link? 00:19 NekoGloop heh. 00:19 kaeza marktraceur: problem 00:19 VanessaE NekoGloop: or at least, shoot it over to be via DCC. 00:19 NekoGloop VanessaE: http://ompldr.org/vZ2ppcQ 00:19 kaeza you can dig the factory even if it contains items 00:19 marktraceur kaeza: Oh noes! What's up? 00:19 marktraceur Oh, hm 00:20 marktraceur I'll fix 'er 00:20 marktraceur Until then: Don't dig factories with items in them 00:20 kaeza np 00:20 kaeza just lost 5 mese picks :( 00:20 kaeza J/K 00:20 Doc22_ VanessaE where do you find the code for pneumatic tubes 00:20 Doc22_ I want the stuff that moves items 00:20 VanessaE where do I "find" it? 00:21 VanessaE er 00:21 VanessaE the movement code is part of technic 00:21 Doc22_ thanks 00:21 NekoGloop VanessaE: HOW COULD I HAVE FORGOTTEN TO PUT CATEARS ON MY CHARACTER 00:21 NekoGloop VanessaE: I BLAME YOU. :( 00:21 VanessaE lol 00:21 Doc22_ haha 00:21 VanessaE you suck :) 00:22 OldCoder VanessaE, conclusions on plantlife yet? 00:23 babyface1031_ doc hold on i just had to look for those 00:23 NekoGloop You can only go so far on a cart before falling out? 00:23 Doc22_ i got where they are 00:24 VanessaE OldCoder: working on it. I think it's good. I just pushed an update just now that should fix it. I would appreciate some tests on a fresh world (change the spawn_delay, spawn_chance, grow_delay, and grow_chance at around line 30 of plantlife/plants/init.lua to very small numbers to accelerate your test) 00:24 VanessaE NekoGloop: no, that's a bug 00:25 VanessaE NekoGloop: server restart coming. What about that skin you wanted me to use? 00:25 NekoGloop and TVs sound like grass. 00:25 NekoGloop VanessaE: One moment. 00:25 NekoGloop ... Eh, I cant really do headphones and catears at the same time 00:25 NekoGloop relink if you need it: http://ompldr.org/vZ2ppcQ 00:25 VanessaE NekoGloop: yeah, almost all homedecor stuff sounds like either grass or wood because I was too lazy to change the sound settings :-) 00:26 VanessaE NekoGloop: installed and server restarted 00:27 VanessaE OldCoder: that server restart I just did over here puts the latest plantlife mod into place also. 00:27 NekoGloop Now come bask in that amazingness of my character skin! 00:28 marktraceur kaeza: Should be fixed now 00:28 kaeza marktraceur: DL'ing and testing... 00:29 marktraceur Oh hm 00:29 marktraceur Messed up the script, sorry 00:29 kaeza wut? 00:30 marktraceur The script put the files in the wrong place, but it's done now 00:30 marktraceur I made a script for building and deploying distribution packages 00:30 kaeza k 00:31 kaeza working now 00:31 kaeza cannot dig the factory unless it's empty 00:32 marktraceur Good good 00:33 kaeza just a little thing, but it's not specific to your mod. In fact, protection mods work in a similar way 00:34 marktraceur kaeza: What's up? 00:34 kaeza When yo dig a node, the game negates this action by putting it again. Now, if the server has a bit of lag, the player can get "through" the node 00:35 kaeza i.e: between the time the node is digged and the time the game puts it back again 00:35 kaeza I don't know how to explain it clearer 00:36 marktraceur Right 00:37 kaeza IDK if this has been reported 00:37 marktraceur I know what you mean 00:37 marktraceur But it's definitely a bigger issue, i.e., nothing I can fix in Lua :) 00:37 kaeza np 00:37 kaeza noticed this long ago 00:38 kaeza has it been reported yet? 00:40 OldCoder VanessaE, If you wish a fresh world to test that is fine 00:40 OldCoder We will proceed this evening 00:41 marktraceur kaeza: I'm not sure, you should look! :) 00:41 kaeza //me is having ice cream right noow 00:41 * kaeza is having ice cream right noow 00:41 kaeza sowwy 00:41 kaeza gonna look 00:44 berome good night ! 00:45 kaeza heck it's 30ºC here 01:02 Octupus I going on me 01:02 Octupus Oc 01:09 Octupus hi 01:10 marktraceur Octupus: Hi! 01:10 Octupus hi marktraceur 01:11 Octupus industry pack ehh mark 01:12 marktraceur Octupus: That's correct 01:12 Octupus :) 01:16 VanessaE zzz 01:17 OldCoder VanessaE, I will make a PlantLife world in 15 minutes or so 01:17 VanessaE OldCoder: be sure you pull it from my git repo of course. 01:17 VanessaE it seems to be stable now. 01:17 VanessaE kaeza: fixed your waterlilies bug. 01:18 kaeza VanessaE: gonna check it :) 01:18 kaeza thx :x 01:18 OldCoder VanessaE, save me a minute. Link PlantLife and list the three to remove from that world. 01:19 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3898 01:20 OldCoder ty 01:20 VanessaE Add that ^^^^^^^ and delete these: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2624 -- http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2307 -- http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1834 01:20 OldCoder VanessaE, just name them 01:20 OldCoder Save me a minute 01:20 OldCoder Flowers and ? 01:20 VanessaE flowers poisonivy junglegrass 01:20 OldCoder Jungle Grass 01:20 OldCoder I have poison ivy? 01:20 OldCoder Probably not 01:20 OldCoder But O.K. 01:20 OldCoder New world soon 01:20 OldCoder It is temporary though 01:21 OldCoder Got plenty of low density worlds 01:21 VanessaE If you don't, and don't want it, edit plantlife/plants/init.lua line 19, set it to false. 01:22 OldCoder It is fine 01:24 VanessaE "Topics with new posts 01:24 VanessaE There are no topics with new posts since your last visit. " 01:24 VanessaE :( 01:25 kaeza my inet connection seems slow today 01:25 VanessaE sowwy 01:26 VanessaE "'Self-Healing' NAND Flash Memory That Can Survive Over 100 Million Cycles" <-- if only. 01:26 kaeza a git clone from plantlife took about 5 minutes before closing the connection 01:27 VanessaE you sure it wasn't github doing that? they've been having problems over the last few days 01:29 kaeza hmmm 01:31 kaeza done 01:31 kaeza at last 01:34 VanessaE kaeza: better? :-) 01:35 kaeza I'm checking 01:35 VanessaE wow, Nintendo Power mag is ceasing production. that's kinda disappointing (and I don't even read it) 01:36 VanessaE or rather, has ceased. 01:36 kaeza got stuck in a 20m deep hole next to an underground tree. F*cking mapgen 01:36 kaeza VanessaE: Nintendo Power... good times 01:37 * kaeza is sad 01:39 NekoGloop VanessaE: Meow. 01:39 VanessaE meow. 01:39 Dogzilla131 How to you make images that look like a sword 01:40 VanessaE use a program that can handle transparency and just draw one 01:40 VanessaE with a transparent background 01:40 kaeza I recommend Gimp 01:40 kaeza or ASEprite 01:42 kaeza VanessaE: I didn't see any flowers yet :( 01:42 VanessaE kaeza: they'll take a while. 01:43 kaeza they don't spawn at mapgen anymore? nice! 01:43 VanessaE they never did 01:43 kaeza silly me 01:43 kaeza thought they did 01:46 STHGOM hi 01:46 OldCoder Hi back 01:47 kaeza YAY! https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1584258379.jpg 01:47 kaeza VanessaE: ^ 01:47 STHGOM if anyone wants me just say my name 01:47 kaeza my name 01:47 STHGOM lol 01:48 STHGOM what do you want me for? 01:48 kaeza nothing 01:48 STHGOM ok 01:48 STHGOM if anyone wants me say "STHGOM" 01:48 kaeza that's better 01:48 STHGOM :) 01:48 Dogzilla131 how to you take sreenshots 01:49 kaeza F12 01:49 kaeza Dogzilla131: ^ 01:49 STHGOM F12 01:49 Dogzilla131 thanks 01:49 kaeza that or Print Screen :) 01:52 NekoGloop MEOW. :3 01:53 OldCoder poinsonivy 01:53 OldCoder NekoGloop, Hi 01:54 OldCoder VanessaE, I think you misspelled that 01:55 OldCoder VanessaE, also what was the timing change you wanted? 01:55 OldCoder Found it 01:58 OldCoder 01:58 OldCoder VanessaE, try world at minetest.org port 30020 - It has plantlife with the four parameters all set to 20 02:06 kaeza OMG will we be able to make this with mesecons? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwHBaSySHmo&feature=player_embedded 02:19 kaeza zzz 02:21 VanessaE kaeza: that's old, and probably easily done already 02:22 VanessaE though the map obviously isn't available in MT, the control system would certainly be more easily done 02:22 kaeza hmmm 02:22 * kaeza is now playing around with mesecons 02:23 VanessaE wow, that' 02:23 VanessaE that's big.. 02:23 VanessaE better to do it in Lua as a mini-game the way that tetris one was done :-) 02:24 kaeza It's interesting though 02:24 kaeza I once did a transporter using piston 02:25 kaeza but exact timing is not one of the upsides of delayers 02:25 VanessaE OldCoder: just sign in and let it it idle for several in-game days 02:26 VanessaE kaeza: use microcontrollers for that. 02:26 OldCoder VanessaE, I am preoccupied; you are welcome to use it 02:26 OldCoder VanessaE, is 20 for all the constants O.K. ? 02:26 VanessaE OldCoder: actually I had the two *_chance params set to 3, spawn_delay to like 20, and grow_delay at 30 02:27 OldCoder What will 20 do? 02:27 VanessaE that gives a reasonable acceleration without eating *too* much CPU. 02:27 OldCoder k 02:27 VanessaE it'll set the ABM interval to 20 :) 02:28 OldCoder local spawn_delay = 20 -- 2000 02:28 OldCoder local spawn_chance = 3 -- 100 02:28 OldCoder local grow_delay = 30 -- 1000 02:28 OldCoder local grow_chance = 3 -- 10 02:28 OldCoder ? 02:28 VanessaE yeah. 02:28 OldCoder Restarted 02:28 VanessaE I probably should make the default for grow_chance as something larger than 10..maybe 25. 02:28 VanessaE but that isn't important right now. 02:29 VanessaE sorry for the delay, btw. Had to go take care of a couple of house chores 02:32 OldCoder VanessaE, feel free to use that world 02:32 VanessaE too tired now 02:32 * VanessaE just finished re-installing a toilet. 02:40 kaeza time to go 02:40 kaeza night everyone 02:40 VanessaE aw 02:40 VanessaE you couldn't wait for 10 more seconds after saying that for me to make a joke 02:40 VanessaE you suck :-) 02:41 kaeza lol 02:41 kaeza you have been actidentally trolled : 02:41 kaeza damn typos 02:41 kaeza accidentally* 02:41 kaeza :)* 02:42 kaeza sorry 02:42 kaeza 48 hours awake 02:42 VanessaE oh my 02:42 kaeza must get sleepness 02:42 VanessaE I used to be able to do that 02:42 VanessaE not anymore though 02:43 VanessaE good night 02:43 kaeza it's the mark of the geek 02:43 kaeza :) 02:44 kaeza night V 02:48 leo_in-game *** singleplayer left the game 02:52 NekoGloop My GLSL is borken D: 02:53 NekoGloop no wonder nothing looked different; it isnt. 02:57 VanessaE hey leo. 02:58 leo_in-game hello 03:03 kaeza aw let's make it 72 03:03 VanessaE hah 03:03 VanessaE well use those extra hours to build something amazing on my server :D 03:03 leo_in-game it really makes my ocd sense tingle seeing that opaque water source and moving water have a different hue of blue 03:03 kaeza just a mug of coffee and back in action! 03:04 VanessaE leo_in-game: shaders? 03:04 leo_in-game that might be it 03:04 kaeza VanessaE: might as well do it 03:04 kaeza hey leo_rockway 03:05 leo_in-game it's more evident with shaders 03:05 leo_in-game but without shaders it can still be seen 03:06 leo_in-game hello, kaeza 03:06 kaeza hey leo_in-game 03:06 kaeza how's that thing working? 03:06 leo_in-game it's working well, but I haven't updated from git yet. 03:06 kaeza lalala griefing 03:06 kaeza J/K 03:07 leo_in-game I like the smooth mod 03:10 VanessaE think I'll do something productive as well... update HDX for latest homedecor :-) 03:12 kaeza VanessaE: +(1e+4) 03:12 NekoGloop VanessaE: Successor to the cart-t-shirt! http://ompldr.org/vZ2prag 03:12 VanessaE hah! 03:13 NekoGloop I was throwing copper ingots at him, so.... :3 03:13 VanessaE weird 03:13 NekoGloop also there's bits of green that i cant tell what they are. 03:13 VanessaE looks like a ...sapling? 03:14 NekoGloop but it isnt. 03:14 VanessaE get closer 03:15 NekoGloop yup it is 03:15 NekoGloop was thinking of MC sapling, my bad. 03:18 OldCoder VanessaE, will you be using the new world to test? 03:18 VanessaE no, my own server actually 03:20 kaeza back 03:20 VanessaE wb 03:21 kaeza hmm 03:22 OldCoder VanessaE, why did you wish me to set it up then? 03:22 VanessaE OldCoder: OH you mean plantlife? I'll check it in a while, it needs to be left running for a long while before I'll be able to tell 03:23 OldCoder VanessaE, are you there? 03:24 OldCoder It won't be active unless somebody is there 03:24 OldCoder True or false? 03:24 VanessaE I'm on my server setting up a test for HDX 03:24 VanessaE that I am not actually sure 03:27 kaeza OldCoder: what's the server? 03:27 kaeza I'd like to see it 03:28 OldCoder kaeza, minetest.org port 30020 temporary for Vanessa plant growth 03:28 OldCoder In theory lots of plants will grow quickly 03:28 OldCoder I will op you there 03:28 kaeza k thanks 03:28 kaeza going in 03:29 VanessaE bbl, this HDX update is gonna need all my attention. 03:35 kaeza OldCoder: I can't seem to be able to connect 03:35 kaeza is the server up? 03:36 kaeza s/can/don/ 03:38 OldCoder kaeza, checking 03:39 OldCoder kaeza, You simply timed out 03:39 OldCoder I have opped you there 03:39 kaeza Does it use heavyweight mods like ambience? 03:40 OldCoder Yes 03:40 OldCoder The mod is not heavyweight 03:40 OldCoder More the network code 03:40 kaeza by "heavyweight" I mean that contains big files 03:41 kaeza nvm 03:42 kaeza sorry OC. It will kill my bandwidth. Thanks for opping me though! :) 03:46 NekoGloop 猫Gloop 03:49 khonkhortisan 猫グー 03:49 khonkhortisan an imperfect translation 03:51 NekoGloop Cat goo. 03:51 NekoGloop Cat. Goo. 03:51 NekoGloop Really? 03:51 khonkhortisan is it close enough? 03:51 NekoGloop No. 03:51 NekoGloop I am not goo. :( 03:51 khonkhortisan well, what's gloop then? 03:51 NekoGloop gloop is gloop 03:52 khonkhortisan "a sticky unpleasant substance" 03:53 khonkhortisan slime, ooze, mush, sludge, pulp, jelly, goo, gunk, gunge, gloop 03:53 khonkhortisan I'm bad at translating 03:53 NekoGloop heh. 03:53 NekoGloop I think 猫Gloop would pass 03:54 khonkhortisan this is what I was thinking of https://www.google.com/shopping/product/1062906554561061214?hl=en&rlz=1B7GGLL_enUS410US416&q=goop&bpcl=39314241&um=1&ie=UTF-8&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&biw=934&bih=752&sa=X&ei=TSK8UOyXI6-MigL7r4HYCQ&ved=0CG0Q8wIwAg 03:54 khonkhortisan but it's missing an ? 03:54 khonkhortisan an L 03:55 NekoGloop Gloop is http://sandbox.yoyogames.com/games/179288-gloop 03:56 kaeza hey NekoGloop you use GM? 03:56 kaeza cool 03:56 NekoGloop Not much anymore but i might later on 03:56 kaeza I stopped after they became YoyoGames 03:57 kaeza last version I had was 6.0 03:57 NekoGloop 8.0 is actually excellent, even in Lite. 03:58 kaeza I once tried to do a GTA2 clone in 5.3A 03:58 kaeza failed at failing 03:58 kaeza mainly because ~12FPS was not enough 03:59 kaeza and my artistic skills SUXX 04:00 NekoGloop Well so do mine. 04:02 kaeza IDK 04:02 kaeza they look pretty "retro" to me 04:02 kaeza i.e they fit the theme 04:03 kaeza they are pretty good 04:03 NekoGloop what does? 04:03 NekoGloop Those old prepreaplha screenshots? 04:03 kaeza yup 04:04 NekoGloop Considering i did all the images in GM's internal editor? 04:04 kaeza the internal editor is pretty good for pixel art 04:05 kaeza though I mostly used Character Raiser 04:05 NekoGloop I dunno, it's good for making minetest images too :3 04:05 kaeza (some Jap program to make chars for RPG Maker) 04:05 NekoGloop lol RPG maker. 04:05 kaeza you know it? 04:05 NekoGloop yep 04:06 NekoGloop I have 2000 and 2003 cracked. 'course, you cant really get english non-cracked ones. 04:06 kaeza care to share? 04:06 kaeza I lost mine 04:07 kaeza in a scratched CD 04:07 NekoGloop honestly, i dont have the installers anymore and I dont know the links 04:07 kaeza the freaking SOPA killed all the links to it 04:07 NekoGloop not -all- 04:08 kaeza *almost* all 04:08 kaeza It's hard to google for it 04:08 kaeza and don't count on P2P 04:10 kaeza now DL'ing Gloop 04:10 kaeza gonna test it 04:10 OldCoder http://minetest.org/ 04:10 OldCoder New design for minetest.org 04:10 OldCoder Will be under reconstruction 04:10 NekoGloop gl hf with the .exe 04:10 OldCoder Logs and auth files and mod zips 04:10 kaeza just Great!! 04:10 OldCoder will all be online 04:11 kaeza LOL 04:11 kaeza Bacon 04:11 kaeza More will go here 04:11 * OldCoder shrugs 04:11 NekoGloop gl hf with the .exe, kaeza 04:11 OldCoder All the pieces will be downloadable 04:11 kaeza i read it Neko 04:11 kaeza why you say? 04:11 NekoGloop Because it's compiled for windows? 04:12 kaeza umm... Wine? 04:12 NekoGloop umm... Idk if it's compatible :3 04:13 kaeza NekoGloop: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202012-12-03%2002%3A09%3A59.jpg 04:14 NekoGloop well, have fun then. 04:16 kaeza XD 04:49 khonkhortisan 猫マスター 04:50 khonkhortisan not your name 04:50 khonkhortisan huh. it adds a "the" 04:51 kaeza what is "猫マスター"? 04:51 khonkhortisan I was going for 'neko master' but ended up with 'the master cat' 04:51 khonkhortisan japanese doesn't have a 'gloop' 04:52 khonkhortisan 猫のマスター Master of cat 04:52 khonkhortisan needs a plural 04:52 kaeza I'd like to learn Japanese someday. Though I only know a few lousy quotes from videogames 04:53 khonkhortisan all it takes is willpower 04:53 kaeza hmm.. 04:53 kaeza how do you say "Hello" ? 04:53 khonkhortisan dunno 04:54 khonkhortisan こんにちは 04:54 khonkhortisan I just use an online translator 04:55 kaeza 5 characters to say "Hello"? 04:55 kaeza thought it would be shorter 04:55 khonkhortisan left to right it's apparently kaezaこんにちは 04:56 khonkhortisan it also has 今日は 04:57 kaeza "Today"? 04:57 khonkhortisan こんにちは or やあ or ハイ or よろしく or ハイテク I guess I shouldn't trust an online translator 04:57 khonkhortisan what are you using? I'm using google translate 04:58 kaeza google translate 04:58 kaeza not very helpful 04:58 kaeza I tried "I suck at this" 04:58 khonkhortisan it meant it as "good day" 04:58 khonkhortisan or good afternoon 04:58 kaeza got "私はこれを吸う" 04:58 khonkhortisan hahaha 04:58 kaeza entered "私はこれを吸う" and got "I suck it" 04:59 kaeza O.o 04:59 khonkhortisan "at this I suck" -> この時点で私は吸う -> I suck at this point 04:59 kaeza lol 04:59 khonkhortisan I think that's slang 05:00 khonkhortisan I'm bad at translating 私は翻訳が苦手です I am not good at translation. That one actually worked 05:03 kaeza hmm 05:03 khonkhortisan I already lost in the cpu twice. Gloop runs in witne 05:03 khonkhortisan wine 05:03 kaeza yes 05:03 kaeza runs in wine 05:04 kaeza here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202012-12-03%2002%3A09%3A59.jpg 05:05 * khonkhortisan just found the shoot button after finding the white shirt 05:05 kaeza yay 05:05 khonkhortisan now I'm stuck 05:05 kaeza it has a few bugs 05:05 kaeza it seems 05:05 khonkhortisan I can't climb to the exit I think 05:06 khonkhortisan oh double jump 05:06 kaeza double jump? 05:06 khonkhortisan yeah click twice 05:10 khonkhortisan spellling error "thru" level 3 05:14 khonkhortisan and fell down to infinity 05:15 khonkhortisan okay I'm done 05:18 kaeza that happened to me on level 7. 05:18 kaeza and somehow the exit door "killed" 05:18 kaeza me 05:31 kaeza can somebody help me set up a server? 05:36 khonkhortisan I would if I could, myself. 05:41 bulletrulz hhhiiii 05:43 kaeza hey bulletrulz 05:43 kaeza khonkhortisan: thanks anyway 05:44 bulletrulz lol i GOT BANNED from the mac channel for telling that linux has more market share then them 05:44 kaeza lol 05:44 kaeza cool 05:46 bulletrulz :D they said i was trolling LOL!M 05:47 bulletrulz lol they said mac didnt need trolling and they weere no viruses 05:48 kaeza +1000 05:49 bulletrulz i lauged my ass off 05:52 khonkhortisan linux as a whole? 05:52 khonkhortisan not including unix? 05:52 khonkhortisan I don't get it 05:53 bulletrulz no linux has 12% desktop now 05:53 khonkhortisan and mac gets trojans second to windows 05:53 khonkhortisan due to its multiple ways of defining file type 05:54 khonkhortisan haha don't trust a graph that only has mac and windows http://www.jacobpierce.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/figa_mac_windows.png 05:56 khonkhortisan I'm not finding the 12% stat anywhere 05:57 kaeza Windows has the "Hide extension for known file types" enabled by default, so it's not uncommon to see people open "picture.jpg.exe". They just see "picture.jpg" and assume it's a photo. 05:57 bulletrulz khonkhortisan, its bewteen 8 and 12 ussually 05:58 kaeza I don't know how a retard could've enabled it by default. 05:59 khonkhortisan it's worse than that - There are magic numbers at the beginning of the file to say the file type, plus the file extension, plus a third thing on mac I don't remember - and the web browser is set to open safe files. It opens scriptpic.png because a .png file is safe, then the "open" program executes it because the magic numbers say it should be scriptpic.sh 06:00 bulletrulz Yeah LOL 06:01 khonkhortisan I hate extension hiding. Notepad always gives me Runme.bat.txt 06:02 kaeza Also, let's be honest. Most Linux users are knowledgeable users in the field of computing (aka h4x0rz), and they think they are "gods" between humans. In most linux forums, you only get responses along the lines of "GIYF", "GTFO n00b", and suc when you ask questions that seem basic for the linux adept. Windows dumbs people, and that is a truth. 06:02 marktraceur kaeza: It's like BASIC 06:02 * marktraceur waves 06:03 khonkhortisan Also, on a school computer, I installed a program onto my flash drive, and the program (forgot what it was) acted up when I moved the flash drive between computers because it had changed the registry on the installing computer. I put it on my flash drive so it _wouldn't_ affect the computer. 06:03 bulletrulz wow some malware for linux 06:03 bulletrulz http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2012/08/31/new-trojan-backdoor-malware-targets-mac-os-x-and-linux-steals-passwords-and-keystrokes/ 06:03 khonkhortisan kaeza, I've heard of that happening but haven't seen it myself 06:03 kaeza marktraceur: explain 06:04 bulletrulz kaeza, nope when ever i see a linux forum they help 06:04 kaeza oh 06:04 kaeza gotcha 06:04 khonkhortisan it doesn't tell me how the virus works. Does it run in userspace? is it a browser addon? 06:05 bulletrulz khonkhortisan, idk 06:05 kaeza marktraceur: the first time I got to a linux forum, I got a "friendly" "GIYF" when I asked "How do you open a terminal?" 06:05 bulletrulz kaeza, what linux forum? 06:05 kaeza don't remember 06:05 bulletrulz i dont think im a go 06:05 bulletrulz god 06:06 kaeza what was it... 06:06 bulletrulz Well you have to use official ones like ubuntu forums or linux mint Fedora forums are Not OFFICIAL 06:06 kaeza I don't recall the name of the distro 06:06 khonkhortisan I'd expect you to be running a windowmanager like kde, gnome and tell you to ① click the button on the left side of the bar at the bottom ② type "xterm" without the quotes, and press enter. 06:07 khonkhortisan that doesn't take much more time to say than giyf 06:07 kaeza for a man that has run Windows since 3.11, you don't understand the basic linux things 06:07 khonkhortisan I'd only be a god if I really knew how to pentest 06:07 bulletrulz well yes thats kinda true but you need to be pulite 06:09 bulletrulz kaeza, yeah i guess but linux is not really hard to learn 06:09 kaeza not for us at least 06:10 marktraceur kaeza: Typing "CtrlAltT" is almost as curt as GIYF and ten times as helpful, I suppose :) 06:10 bulletrulz does anyone have quake 3 arena 06:10 bulletrulz kaeza, use linux for 5 min youll know the basics 06:10 kaeza bulletrulz: not always 06:10 khonkhortisan ctrl-alt-t doesn't work for me but ctrl-alt-backspace x 2 does (don't try it) 06:10 kaeza depends on distro 06:11 bulletrulz kaeza, ubuntu anykind of ubuntu 06:11 kaeza compare ubuntu with arch 06:11 kaeza and you get what I mean 06:11 bulletrulz arch is for advanced people 06:11 khonkhortisan if only I could compare them. I'm stuck with neither 06:11 bulletrulz but once you got it working its compeatly awesome 06:11 kaeza BTW Ctrl+Alt+T works for me 06:12 khonkhortisan backtrack is for advanced people :P 06:12 kaeza but not Ctrl+Bksp 06:12 kaeza The first distro I got my hands on was arch 06:12 khonkhortisan for me, ctrl-alt-backspace makes the computer beep, then pressing it again logs me out. I hear it's disabled in newer oses 06:13 khonkhortisan windows 93 eventually to suse 12.1 06:13 kaeza and I was all like "WTF??? did I change Windows for a cheap copy of DOS???" 06:14 kaeza later I got Puppy 06:14 khonkhortisan ^ on flash drive 06:14 khonkhortisan can't say much about it, due to small drive space 06:15 khonkhortisan I don't remember, is it easy to rename a minetest world? 06:15 kaeza khonkhortisan: how moch HDD space do you have? 06:16 kaeza much* 06:17 khonkhortisan 1 terabite in the computer, 256 mb on previous flash drive, 2 gb on current, 2 GB memory out of 16 possible 06:18 khonkhortisan if only I could actually trade hard drive space for memory, without using swap 06:19 kaeza hmmm 06:19 kaeza only 2gb of disk? 06:20 kaeza I don't get you 06:20 khonkhortisan 2gb flash drive, 2gb memory, lots more hard drive 06:20 kaeza oh sorry, didn't understand "2 gb on current" 06:21 kaeza sorry 06:21 kaeza I need to read :) 06:22 khonkhortisan (256mb previous as opposed to) current 2gb [flash drive] 06:22 khonkhortisan I implied things in my sentence 06:22 kaeza yup 06:22 kaeza I need to pay more attention, sorry 06:22 kaeza hmmm... 06:23 kaeza that's true. you have PLENTY of disk space but little mem 06:23 akerok Hello everyone! 06:23 khonkhortisan hi 06:23 kaeza helo akerok 06:23 kaeza hello 06:23 kaeza * 06:24 akerok Does anyone have a running public server up? 06:24 kaeza I can do one if you want 06:24 kaeza but you'll need remobo 06:25 akerok I actually want help. You see, my friend and I have a server that we have been working on. We have it working locally, but we want to put it up for public. 06:26 kaeza I want to do the same 06:26 kaeza unfortunately it seems there's no one here that knows how to 06:26 kaeza right now that is 06:27 khonkhortisan for the port 30000, you'll both need to port forward it from your router to your lan ip, and on your computer firewall allow incoming connections on that port (both TCP and UDP), then have someone test it with your public ip 06:27 khonkhortisan I got stuck at changing router settings 06:27 khonkhortisan so that's about as far as I can help 06:28 khonkhortisan other than trying to connect 06:28 akerok I'm honestly not sure what the problem is with ours. I have forwarded the port through the router, and opened the firewall. However, I can only get it to connect using the internal IP. If I try to use the external IP to connect, it doesn't connect. 06:29 kaeza khonkhortisan: try this: 186.191.18.62 port 30000 06:30 akerok one sec 06:31 kaeza khonkhortisan: It seems it worked 06:31 khonkhortisan works, but I have to go 06:31 akerok All right. Take care. 06:31 kaeza akerok: 186.191.18.62 port 30000 06:31 kaeza bye khonkhortisan 06:32 akerok I'm trying to connect now. 06:32 kaeza ya 06:32 kaeza I C U 06:32 khonkhortisan ...media is slow... 06:32 akerok It's connecting. 06:33 kaeza It has a lot of mods 06:33 akerok That's all right. What kind of mods? 06:34 kaeza wait 06:35 kaeza WTF??? my log file is 2.1 GB!!! 06:35 akerok WOW! 06:36 khonkhortisan that's bigger than my flash drive with puppy linux on it 06:36 kaeza it has mesecons, 3dforniture, flowers, and tons of others 06:36 kaeza no mobs though 06:37 kaeza they b0rk3d the games 06:38 kaeza how's the media gauge? 06:38 kaeza errm... whatever 06:40 kaeza too much lag? 06:40 akerok No, it wouldn't rez. 06:41 kaeza hmmm 06:41 akerok I have the latest client. 06:41 kaeza I have it too 06:41 kaeza freshly built from hit :) 06:41 kaeza git* 06:42 akerok Weird. 06:42 kaeza I'll get minetest_game again 06:42 kaeza just in case 06:43 akerok All right. Also, I'm running the one for Ubuntu Linux. 06:44 hmmmm yeah.... 06:44 hmmmm if you're running a production server you should set --logfile "" 06:45 kaeza thanks hmmmm 06:45 hmmmm you probably suffered quite a bit of performance degredation from that too 06:45 hmmmm although it highly depends on the filesystem in question 06:45 kaeza akerok: I have a fresh copy of minetest_game 06:45 kaeza which mods should I add? 06:46 kaeza hmmmm: Ubuntu 12.04. I think it's ext4fs 06:46 akerok I'm running 12.10 06:47 akerok All right. Is the server up still? 06:47 kaeza which mods should I add? I have in mind mesecons 06:47 akerok Whichever ones you wish. Can you add mods while the server is running? 06:47 kaeza I want to keep only a few mods 06:47 kaeza no the server is down 06:47 kaeza waiting to install mods 06:48 akerok ok 06:49 akerok Let me know when the server is up. 06:51 kaeza up 06:51 kaeza akerok: ^ 06:51 akerok ok 06:54 akerok It still won't rez properly. 06:55 kaeza what do you mean? 06:56 akerok When I connect to the server, I only get a small area to travel in. 06:56 kaeza oh 06:56 akerok It also gives me a warning that the server may not be completely compatable with my version of minetest. 06:56 kaeza maybe it's my crappy connection 06:59 akerok That it could be. It just loaded a bit more. 07:02 akerok It's rezing slowely, but it's working. 07:05 kaeza Is it working better? 07:06 akerok A little. 07:11 akerok It's really slow, but works. 07:13 kaeza hey sokomine 07:13 akerok Hello sokomine. 07:18 kaeza hello iqualfragile 07:18 iqualfragile hello 07:19 iqualfragile hello kaeza 07:19 kaeza akerok: I will shut down server if you don't mind 07:19 kaeza what's up? 07:19 akerok Not a problem. 07:19 iqualfragile not much 07:19 akerok I'm off now. 07:21 iqualfragile me too, bye 07:21 kaeza bye? 07:22 iqualfragile goodbye 07:23 akerok Ok, then. 07:41 akerok Well everyone, I'm off for now. Take care. 07:47 kaeza .sv 07:47 MinetestBot kaeza: Minetest.Ru main server | minetest.ru:30000 up (99.606%) 07:57 kaeza It's awfully quiet in here... 09:04 kaeza hey 09:07 Aqua_ Hi on my iPhone 09:26 celeron55 updated the main site: http://minetest.net/ 09:28 celeron55 that'd need new screenshots... does anyone have something suitable? 09:33 kaeza celeron55: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=943#p943 09:58 kaeza celeron55: how about this one? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1613061975.jpg 10:12 celeron55 i took a new "nature" shot myself; now some kind of an outdoor buildings shot would be good, and then a cave shot 10:12 celeron55 also they should be taken with a version that uses shaders 10:13 celeron55 something to complement the first one on the site 10:45 VanessaE anyone still awake here? 10:53 VanessaE meh. off to bed. for whoever cares: Homedecor got a minor update, and just brought support for it in HDX up-to-date. also added steel doors to HDX. 10:53 VanessaE night all. 11:04 cmacis Mornin 11:18 * Calinou likes the new lighting without shaders 11:18 Calinou brightness of blocks' sides should be darker imo 11:59 Zigz1 Hello people~ 12:00 cmacis Hello 12:01 NekoGloop Meow. 12:02 Zigz1 So I looked up the leaf decay code in minetest default 12:02 Zigz1 Because i wanted to do rainbow trees 12:02 Zigz1 So I saw those confusing lines of codes 12:02 Zigz1 ..and I'm like screw this. 12:04 Zigz1 I just found out the mystery of my whole life 12:04 cmacis I've some vague ideas for a christmas tree. Fractal to keep it simple. 12:05 NekoGloop make ornaments and put them on trees. simple. 12:05 cmacis I also built the church of Emacs, but my GF mocked me for building a phallic object with scary-looking gnu on it. 12:05 cmacis More that I want to engineer a giant tree that won't lose its leaves 12:06 NekoGloop then, have the leaf decay check for other leaves. 12:07 cmacis More that I'm wanting to work within the constraints of current rules 12:07 NekoGloop do some magical crap and have it know if there's a tree left or not 12:07 cmacis And climb a giant tree of my own making 12:07 cmacis And press "r" and watch the eee grind to a halt on 1FPS 12:10 Zigz1 Hmm.. 12:10 Zigz1 Leaf decay..? 12:10 Zigz1 remove leafdecay.lua and all of it's related stuff ? 12:10 Zigz1 Perhaps? 12:14 Zigz1 Crap. If I make an eatable item does =(number) mean how much it heals? 12:23 cmacis I did not want to press that button 12:24 NekoGloop YES YOU DID 12:35 cmacis Anyone know of a half-decent pixel-art gnu? My googling only returned pixel art made with gnu software. I might try again later at building the church of EMACS 12:37 Fabiter Hey Guys, someone there? 12:37 cmacis Just us chickens 12:37 Fabiter :D 12:38 Fabiter Wow, thats a fast guy.. 12:39 NekoGloop Meow? 12:39 Fabiter ? O.o 12:40 NekoGloop Meow. :3 12:42 Fabiter :D 12:43 * NekoGloop curls up in a ball 12:56 Zigz1 I have a real cat, here.. 12:56 Zigz1 At home 12:57 NekoGloop Meow. :3 13:05 Fabiter k 13:23 sfan5 Kacey google "your mom" and "weed" 13:23 sfan5 *googled 13:29 Zigz1 Can anyone help me? 13:29 Zigz1 Peerhappss~? 13:30 RagnarIsAwesomeA hi! 13:31 Zigz1 Hello, young adventurer! I used to be an adventurer like you, until.. 13:31 * Zigz1 takes an arrow to the face 13:31 Zigz1 Complete reverse. 13:31 RagnarIsAwesomeA LOL 13:31 * RagnarIsAwesomeA agrees 13:31 sfan5 :D 13:31 RagnarIsAwesomeA hey sfan5! 13:31 RagnarIsAwesomeA do you know python? 13:31 sfan5 .g ur mom 13:32 sfan5 RagnarIsAwesomeA: yes 13:32 RagnarIsAwesomeA i need some help with it! 13:32 sfan5 i can help you 13:32 Zigz1 sfan5, you know minetest lua a bit? 13:32 sfan5 Zigz1: yes 13:32 Zigz1 I just need an answer to a simple question 13:32 RagnarIsAwesomeA im making a quiz, but i need to know, is it possible to make it not repeat any questions? 13:32 RagnarIsAwesomeA sfan5 im making a quiz, but i need to know, is it possible to make it not repeat any questions? 13:32 sfan5 ... 13:33 Zigz1 when I make an eatable item, is the =(number) describing how much it heals? 13:33 RagnarIsAwesomeA ow yeah... 13:33 RagnarIsAwesomeA but not much 13:33 RagnarIsAwesomeA oops.... 13:33 RagnarIsAwesomeA i answered to Zigz1... :D 13:33 sfan5 you could put them in an array and use for i in range(1,len(array)): question = array[i] 13:33 RagnarIsAwesomeA i thought that sfan5 asked me :D 13:33 sfan5 Zigz1: yes, should be 13:34 RagnarIsAwesomeA wait...my range is 10... 13:34 sfan5 you could put them in an array and use for i in range(1,len(array)): question = array[i] @RagnarIsAwesomeA 13:34 RagnarIsAwesomeA do i change it? 13:34 sfan5 add more entries to the array 13:34 Zigz1 ಠ_ಠ I shall thank you, sfan5. 13:34 sfan5 :D 13:34 RagnarIsAwesomeA q = questions[randint(1,len(questions))] 13:34 RagnarIsAwesomeA this is my line... 13:34 Zigz1 And if I had to do python, I'd just stick to Scratch 13:34 sfan5 .... 13:34 RagnarIsAwesomeA for i in range(10): 13:35 RagnarIsAwesomeA i mean this is my range line... 13:35 RagnarIsAwesomeA do i change it? 13:35 sfan5 does it has to be (derp english) a random question? 13:35 RagnarIsAwesomeA yes, it is a RANDOM question... 13:36 RagnarIsAwesomeA and thats what im going for... 13:36 RagnarIsAwesomeA but it keeps repeating questions 13:36 sfan5 you could make an array answered_questions = {} 13:37 RagnarIsAwesomeA ??? 13:37 Zigz1 REDDIT ︵ /(.□. \） 13:37 RagnarIsAwesomeA sorry, im new to python... 13:37 sfan5 and if question_number in answered_questions: next_question() 13:37 RagnarIsAwesomeA i dont understand where to put it 13:37 sfan5 .... 13:37 sfan5 wait 13:38 * RagnarIsAwesomeA wants to be drunk, when he wakes up, on the right side of a wrong bed... 13:38 Zigz1 Ragnar, you need to get a code that chooses a random question and if a question was already answered, it doesn't choose it. Based on python's word logic, you should know how to do that 13:39 RagnarIsAwesomeA umm....no... 13:39 RagnarIsAwesomeA im telling you, im new to python... 13:39 Zigz1 Crap. 13:39 Zigz1 I'm clueless 13:39 RagnarIsAwesomeA i started learning it on saturday... 13:39 sfan5 .... 13:39 * RagnarIsAwesomeA wants to be drunk, when he wakes up, on the right side of a wrong bed... 13:39 Zigz1 I don't have any python experience whatsoever, but I know that python is completely logic, and less confusing than LUA. 13:42 RagnarIsAwesomeA well... 13:42 RagnarIsAwesomeA i cant just type in... 13:42 RagnarIsAwesomeA Python.Please.Dont = "Repeat","questions" 13:43 RagnarIsAwesomeA wait... 13:43 RagnarIsAwesomeA Python.Please.Dont = (("Repeat","questions")) 13:43 sfan5 no 13:43 RagnarIsAwesomeA this is how its really... 13:43 RagnarIsAwesomeA with (( and )) 13:43 RagnarIsAwesomeA :D 13:45 RagnarIsAwesomeA so sfan5 , any advice? 13:45 sfan5 wait a sec 13:46 RagnarIsAwesomeA ok 13:46 RagnarIsAwesomeA i can give you the .py if that would help... 13:47 RagnarIsAwesomeA wait... 13:47 RagnarIsAwesomeA even better... 13:47 RagnarIsAwesomeA http://ompldr.org/vZ2pxcg 13:47 RagnarIsAwesomeA look at the code... 13:47 markveidemanis hey 13:48 markveidemanis anyone?? 13:48 sfan5 RagnarIsAwesomeA: do it like this http://beta.pastie.org/5472808 13:48 sfan5 markveidemanis: hi 13:48 RagnarIsAwesomeA wtf 13:48 markveidemanis are u using pipeworks for your oil mod? 13:48 RagnarIsAwesomeA that doesnt even look the same :( 13:49 sfan5 markveidemanis: no 13:49 RagnarIsAwesomeA hey sfan5 , can you copy my code and then tweak it and re-upload it? 13:49 sfan5 RagnarIsAwesomeA: yes 13:49 RagnarIsAwesomeA or pastie it 13:49 RagnarIsAwesomeA thanks :D 13:49 RagnarIsAwesomeA http://ompldr.org/vZ2pxcg 13:49 markveidemanis can you use it 13:49 markveidemanis also, found "bug" 13:50 RagnarIsAwesomeA what? 13:50 RagnarIsAwesomeA wait, use what! 13:50 RagnarIsAwesomeA the code? 13:50 RagnarIsAwesomeA NO! 13:50 RagnarIsAwesomeA its my code 13:50 markveidemanis if u place pipe, block under it will be turned to pipe, what if it's nyan! :) 13:50 RagnarIsAwesomeA it ISNT WTFPL 13:50 RagnarIsAwesomeA :O 13:50 RagnarIsAwesomeA LOL 13:50 RagnarIsAwesomeA ow, i thought you were talking about my code :D 13:52 sfan5 RagnarIsAwesomeA: this should help you: http://beta.pastie.org/5472855 13:52 RagnarIsAwesomeA where do i put it :S 13:54 Zigz1 Ragnar 13:54 Zigz1 You better stay, because I'm drawing something for you 13:54 RagnarIsAwesomeA what are you drawing? 13:57 Zigz1 You'll see, Ragnar 13:58 sfan5 RagnarIsAwesomeA: http://beta.pastie.org/5472970 13:58 sfan5 this is right 13:58 sfan5 just add your questions and answers and it works 13:59 RagnarIsAwesomeA WHERE DO I ADD THEM!!! 13:59 RagnarIsAwesomeA in what line! 14:00 sfan5 line 4 14:01 RagnarIsAwesomeA i thought i had to add them like question.append (("Question","answer")) 14:01 sfan5 RagnarIsAwesomeA: you can also do it like this: http://beta.pastie.org/private/al1nojlvbignh9hsw3aohg#4 14:01 RagnarIsAwesomeA YAY 14:01 RagnarIsAwesomeA YOU DID IT LIKE I TOLD YOU 14:01 RagnarIsAwesomeA FINALY 14:02 RagnarIsAwesomeA :') 14:02 RagnarIsAwesomeA Houston, we got a problem 14:03 RagnarIsAwesomeA doesnt open! 14:03 sfan5 what? 14:03 RagnarIsAwesomeA i said, it doesnt open... 14:04 RagnarIsAwesomeA ow :D 14:04 RagnarIsAwesomeA wait... 14:04 RagnarIsAwesomeA got it 14:04 RagnarIsAwesomeA i de-bugged it with CMD :D 14:05 sfan5 wait 14:05 RagnarIsAwesomeA yeah... 14:05 RagnarIsAwesomeA i dont see a problem there... 14:05 RagnarIsAwesomeA wait... 14:05 RagnarIsAwesomeA i dont see range anywhere... 14:05 RagnarIsAwesomeA why? 14:06 Zigz1 crapsters, 11 layers already 14:06 Zigz1 :O 14:06 RagnarIsAwesomeA lol :D 14:06 RagnarIsAwesomeA gimp/ps? 14:07 Zigz1 gimp 14:07 RagnarIsAwesomeA ok :D 14:07 * RagnarIsAwesomeA listening to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIq7pH2ExSM 14:07 * RagnarIsAwesomeA is listening to Linkin Park - High Voltage (YFM Cover) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIq7pH2ExSM 14:08 RagnarIsAwesomeA when is it ready? 14:10 Zigz1 DONE! 14:10 RagnarIsAwesomeA finaly ;D 14:10 Zigz1 I'll upload it to imgur or something now 14:11 Zigz1 python_rage.png http://i.imgur.com/jTfcT.png 14:11 RagnarIsAwesomeA you kidding me? 14:11 RagnarIsAwesomeA you draw like my 6 year old brother :D 14:11 RagnarIsAwesomeA and even he draws faster :D 14:12 Zigz1 because he draws on paper, lmfao 14:12 RagnarIsAwesomeA still! 14:12 RagnarIsAwesomeA he cant undo and shit... 14:12 RagnarIsAwesomeA you can! 14:12 Zigz1 lol 14:12 Zigz1 I bet he doesnt know what is ctrl+z 14:13 RagnarIsAwesomeA its undo... duh! 14:13 RagnarIsAwesomeA and ctrl+y is redo 14:13 Zigz1 He doesn't even know how to do layer transparency lol 14:13 RagnarIsAwesomeA dumb shit 14:13 Zigz1 I did a black layer and transparency on that bitch 14:13 RagnarIsAwesomeA and ctrl c is copy, ctrl v is paste and ctrl x is cut 14:13 RagnarIsAwesomeA and do you know what alt+F4 does? 14:13 RagnarIsAwesomeA guess not xD 14:13 RagnarIsAwesomeA try it" 14:14 Zigz1 I know, i'm not an idiot 14:14 Zigz1 ;) 14:14 RagnarIsAwesomeA YouAreAnIdiot.org 14:14 RagnarIsAwesomeA xD 14:14 Zigz1 And if I were, I wouldn't do this http://i46.tinypic.com/2hzcrm.png 14:15 Zigz1 I actually did that myself 14:16 Zigz1 The image is not mine though, I just desaturated it and did the rainbow eyes. 14:16 RagnarIsAwesomeA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgfpJWUYgbg 14:17 * RagnarIsAwesomeA is LMAO'ing at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgfpJWUYgbg 14:17 sfan5 RagnarIsAwesomeA: http://beta.pastie.org/private/ugf6gy9idvejsz1a6lg 14:18 Zigz1 Listening to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lD8JtInkqY 14:18 Zigz1 <3 14:18 RagnarIsAwesomeA You're Pitiful! 14:19 RagnarIsAwesomeA I FREAKING LOVE WIERD AL! 14:20 celeron55 http://i.imgur.com/jTfcT.png is awesome 14:20 RagnarIsAwesomeA oh hi Celeron55! 14:20 celeron55 i don't understand what it means though 14:20 celeron55 8D 14:20 RagnarIsAwesomeA hey why is your name celeron55? 14:20 celeron55 because. 14:20 RagnarIsAwesomeA is it from a intel processor? 14:20 RagnarIsAwesomeA cause i saw a chip in my pc with a text celeron55 14:21 Zigz1 Is dis 14:21 Zigz1 Fake celeron. 14:21 Zigz1 Or nut. 14:21 RagnarIsAwesomeA hey Zigz1 14:21 RagnarIsAwesomeA you're White and Nerdy! 14:21 Zigz1 I'm not white 14:21 Zigz1 I'm tan 14:21 Zigz1 :D 14:21 Zigz1 Light tan 14:21 RagnarIsAwesomeA You're Tanned and Nerdy 14:22 Zigz1 You're right! 14:22 Zigz1 I am! 14:22 Zigz1 Good job :) 14:22 RagnarIsAwesomeA You're Light Tanned and Nerdy 14:24 * RagnarIsAwesomeA Listening To Amish Paradise 14:25 * Zigz1 is listening to Linkin Park's meteora 14:26 * RagnarIsAwesomeA doesnt give a fuck 14:27 * Zigz1 doesn't give a fuck about your stuff either, so why the hell are you talking about it? 14:27 RagnarIsAwesomeA Perform This Way 14:27 RagnarIsAwesomeA xD 14:27 Zigz1 Instead of being mean to each other we'd just become friends and barf rainbows ~? 14:27 RagnarIsAwesomeA mkay... 14:27 RagnarIsAwesomeA NOT! 14:27 RagnarIsAwesomeA xD 14:28 RagnarIsAwesomeA wait... 14:28 RagnarIsAwesomeA Zigz1, the guy, who "Doesnt have anybody to play with" ? 14:28 RagnarIsAwesomeA OW YEAH XD 14:28 Zigz1 Oh stop being silly. Being 11 I'm even more mature than you. 14:28 RagnarIsAwesomeA hey Zigz1 14:29 RagnarIsAwesomeA no youre not! 14:29 RagnarIsAwesomeA im 13 dumbass 14:29 RagnarIsAwesomeA youre a STUPID POLSKY 14:29 RagnarIsAwesomeA xD 14:29 RagnarIsAwesomeA btw... 14:29 RagnarIsAwesomeA i saw your mom holding a tv when driving in a TRUCK 14:30 Zigz1 I doubt that because my mom can't even afford a truck, not either a plane to another country. But you know, that doesn't make me poor. 14:30 RagnarIsAwesomeA i know... 14:30 RagnarIsAwesomeA im not rich either 14:31 RagnarIsAwesomeA rich ppl are really also poor... 14:31 RagnarIsAwesomeA because nobody loves rich ppl... 14:32 RagnarIsAwesomeA so they are poor in friends... 14:32 RagnarIsAwesomeA wall brb... 15:11 redcrab Hi minetesters ... I ve a community question ... I ve 2 servers with interact/build privilege by default : ... a 0.3.1 and a 0.4.3 version ... the 0.3.1 still popular ... I though, that 0.3.1 player will go to 0.4.3 ... and despite the "/protect"(self anti grief) command in 0.4.3, player in 0.3.1 stay in the limited and unprotected game version ... Why ??? 15:11 NakedFury have you provided links to download 0.4.3 clients? 15:12 redcrab no ... 15:12 NakedFury do they know that the new version has everything the old one has but is better? 15:12 sfan5 0.4.3 is playabe on less computers than 0.3.1 15:12 NakedFury ohh didnt know that sfan 15:13 redcrab ...the question can be ... how can they know and succeed to download and play 0.3.1 (new players) despite the display of 0.4 on minetest.net site 15:14 NakedFury ohh you keep getting 0.3.1 players? 15:14 redcrab yep .... new player ids on 0.3.1 15:15 NakedFury can you try to bring any structures of the old server to the new one? 15:15 redcrab never tried yet .... and in fact I would like to avoid to have legacy 15:17 redcrab ... and also because I ve already have a equivalent free to build in 0.4.3 ... (merge world ?!!... no ...) 15:39 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 15:40 STHGOM hi 15:51 Calinou happy birthday more blocks :D 15:52 celeron55 redcrab: i think some people like 0.3.1 because it has the fairly well working simple mobs 15:52 celeron55 and is just more "manageable" 15:52 celeron55 ...and the system requirement thing too of course 15:54 PilzAdam celeron55, are you aware of the bug of the new water shaders that the lowest flowing liquid node is not visible (its drawn in the node under it)? 15:54 celeron55 ye 15:54 celeron55 +s 15:55 celeron55 the shader can do nothing about it, except overally lower everything less; it has to be implemented in C++ sometime (differently than new_style_water) 15:56 PilzAdam or reduce the pitch of the flowing water if shaders are used 15:56 PilzAdam would be a bit hacky 16:12 celeron55 well... maybe; but it shouldn't be too hard to just make it in C++ and have it work for everybody then 16:16 Jordach celeron55 - could you point me the supported shader formats in irrlicht (or whatever you used)? im working on a sonicether type modification 16:17 thexyz why is food mod licensed under CC BY NC SA? 16:17 thexyz it makes me sad =( 16:18 Jordach because making money off free things is wrong 16:18 celeron55 no it isn't 16:18 celeron55 we value free as in freedom, not free as in beer 16:23 NakedFury freedom and free beer(in my case switch with coca cola) would be nice too 16:25 PilzAdam can i have ice cream instead of beer or cola? 16:26 Jordach heh 16:29 sfan5 i'd like an answer to this too: Jordach> celeron55 - could you point me the supported shader formats in irrlicht (or whatever you used)? im working on a sonicether type modification 16:30 celeron55 irrlicht directly feeds shaders to the underlying graphics backend 16:31 celeron55 if you use opengl, it's glsl 16:31 Zeg9 Hello 16:32 sfan5 hi Zeg9 16:32 Jordach right 16:33 Calinou what happens if you try to use shaders when using direct3d/software? :P 16:33 * Jordach will be using OpenGlsl 2.x 16:33 sfan5 Calinou: i assume glsl too 16:33 * Jordach has 2.1 so things should work 16:33 Jordach D: 16:33 * Calinou has opengl 4.2 16:33 Jordach and? 16:34 Calinou i could get 4.3 with experimental driver :p 16:34 * Jordach DNGAF 16:34 celeron55 Calinou: i haven't implemented any hlsl shaders (the d3d ones), so it will fail like software 16:34 Calinou k 16:34 thexyz poor windoz guys 16:34 * sfan5 has opengl 2.1 AND 4.2 16:34 Jordach actually, just remove Direct3D suport altogether 16:34 celeron55 i won't be implementing any d3d shaders 16:34 celeron55 if somebody wants, they can be included 16:35 celeron55 (ones that do the same thing as the opengl shaders) 16:35 sfan5 thexyz: poor because they use windows? ;) 16:35 Calinou you can use opengl on windows.. 16:35 celeron55 Jordach: of course not 16:35 Calinou so they're not poor :p 16:35 sfan5 Calinou: you can! 16:35 thexyz ok, poor windoz guys with bad videocards 16:36 celeron55 windows users are poor because buying windows took all of their money 8) 16:36 * Jordach looks at people with laptops from 200x 16:36 celeron55 alternatively, criminals 16:36 Calinou 200x? 16:37 Calinou ah 16:37 Calinou nvm, i thought it was a brand :p 16:37 sfan5 celeron55: could you please add some comments to the shaders in the main branch? 16:37 sfan5 .g 200x laptops 16:37 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1EF0FA4922 16:37 Calinou celeron55: "buy a computer without an OS, pay more than a computer with windows" --OS-less computer vendors 16:37 sfan5 thats not what i wanted :/ 16:37 Calinou so true i'm still buying computers with windows then remove windows on it 16:38 sfan5 :D 16:38 sfan5 .g "200x laptops" 16:38 MinetestBot sfan5: No results found for '"200x laptops"'. 16:38 Jordach .g alienware linux 16:38 MinetestBot Jordach: http://www.ehow.com/how_5986463_install-linux-alienware-laptop.html 16:38 markveidemanis hi 16:39 sfan5 hi marktraceur 16:39 Jordach hello 16:39 sfan5 oops 16:39 sfan5 hi markveidemanis 16:39 markveidemanis in unified inventory... 16:39 markveidemanis can i set stack size to 999?... how? 16:40 Calinou with source code change, yes you can 16:40 Calinou not with a lua mod 16:40 Calinou and of course, tools cannot be made stackable 16:40 Jordach max_stack = 999, add this to all lines 16:40 Calinou since amount is wear for tools 16:40 Jordach (in lua mods) 16:40 Calinou Jordach: not a proper way of doing things :) 16:40 Jordach Calinou - but better in this case :3 16:41 markveidemanis i can make tools stack, just /giveme number more than 1 16:41 markveidemanis i dont know, gonna try 16:41 thexyz sfan5: can you make your bot to post into chat when somebody makes a commit into minetest or minetest_game repo? 16:41 NakedFury ^excellent idea 16:41 sfan5 thexyz: yes 16:41 markveidemanis nodename for wood shovel?? 16:41 Jordach good ol' RSS feed 16:41 Calinou markveidemanis: no, it'll just reduce their wear.. 16:42 Calinou it's a tool 16:42 Jordach itemname name 16:42 Calinou not a node :p 16:42 sfan5 but it would be better if somebody else runs it, so its really 24/7 16:42 thexyz Jordach: does github have rss? 16:42 thexyz sfan5: i can host it 16:42 Jordach i think so 16:42 Calinou it does, iirc 16:42 thexyz oh, it has atom feed 16:42 sfan5 thexyz: FYI the bot is based on this: http://inamidst.com/phenny/ 16:43 sfan5 .g cookies 16:43 MinetestBot sfan5: I don't feel like doing that right now...Ask me later! 16:43 sfan5 :( 16:43 markveidemanis my fps deops from 40 to 20 when i open unified inventory 16:43 Calinou do you have "preload item visuals" enabled? 16:44 Calinou celeron55: are features frozen for 0.4.4? could you merge my minetest_game branch if it is not? 16:44 OldCoder Back 16:44 Calinou wb 16:44 OldCoder ty 16:44 OldCoder Calinou, http://minetest.org/ will be reconstructed this month to be useful 16:44 markveidemanis good mod for server? 16:46 * markveidemanis is afk 16:46 Calinou OldCoder: screenshot uses mc textures :| 16:47 OldCoder Calinou, which one? 16:47 OldCoder There are plenty of screenshots to choose from 16:48 Calinou main page 16:49 sfan5 thexyz: where can i find the atom feed of celeron55/minetest and celeron55/minetest_game 16:51 thexyz sfan5: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commits/master.atom 16:52 sfan5 thx 16:54 Zeg9 Hey OldCoder 16:55 sokomine hi 17:00 * VanessaE wanders in.. hi all. 17:00 Zeg9 Hello 17:01 * STHGOM thinks minetest is cool! 17:01 VanessaE what's news? 17:03 Jordach VanessaE been fixing a very outdated mod 17:03 VanessaE STHGOM: you have good taste :-) 17:03 STHGOM thank you 17:03 VanessaE Jordach: did you see last night's updates from me? 17:03 Jordach http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=54889#p54889 and no 17:03 VanessaE homedecor got a minor tweak, HDX got a sizable update. 17:03 jin-xi hi all 17:04 VanessaE hey jin-xi. 17:04 jin-xi hey i have a question: it is possible for a mod to redefine existing nodes, right? 17:04 jin-xi like, ehm, all the default oned 17:04 Jordach yes 17:04 jin-xi s 17:04 Jordach just re-define them as you would normally 17:04 jin-xi ok 17:05 Jordach just as long as depends.txt has default 17:05 Calinou VanessaE: lol'd at HDX's nyancat 17:05 VanessaE Calinou: that's been there for a while. at least it's worth a 'lol' rather than 'creepy' :-) 17:05 jin-xi here is my idea: ima try to use lua and mt's noise function to make lo-fi procedural textures... 17:06 markveidemanis hi 17:06 VanessaE that should be interesting 17:06 jin-xi so your ores look different in every world 17:06 jin-xi and such. 17:06 markveidemanis who has a private server i can go on 17:06 Jordach +and grief 17:06 STHGOM what is "some exeption: access" when you try to join sometimes? 17:06 Zeg9 Why private? x) 17:07 markveidemanis coz i want to fly:) 17:07 VanessaE markveidemanis: mine's up. 17:07 markveidemanis address? 17:07 Calinou STHGOM: access violation 17:08 VanessaE STHGOM: look at debug.txt or the console - that'll probably be an 'access violation' which means your copy of minetest is not built to work on your machine. 17:08 Jordach hehe, STHGOM's pc got violated! 17:08 STHGOM okkkkk 17:08 VanessaE markveidemanis: 24.181.193.82 port 30000 17:08 Calinou Jordach: it'll be the pc's fault if he switches to linux :p 17:09 Jordach :P 17:09 Calinou STHGOM: minetest requires a SSE2-compliant processor 17:09 Calinou or, was it SSE? 17:09 * Jordach finds sfan5 builds faster than msc++ 17:09 iqualfragile wtf? 17:09 iqualfragile you dont know? 17:09 STHGOM umm... 17:09 VanessaE Calinou: doesn't the access violation usually refer to a video mode issue? D3D vs. OpenGL or some such? 17:10 iqualfragile celeron55: the new design stunned me at first 17:10 iqualfragile but its allright 17:10 STHGOM then why did Zeg9's server work just a couple minutes ago? 17:10 Calinou VanessaE: that too, maybe 17:10 sokomine i usually get the "some exception:" without further comment. but that is still 0.4.3 and not the newest 17:11 Calinou STHGOM: try using opengl by putting "video_driver = opengl" (without quotes) in minetest.conf 17:11 markveidemanis loading... 17:11 markveidemanis just loading media now... 17:11 * Jordach turns up some bass 17:11 Jordach better 17:11 markveidemanis freenode sometimes doesn't screll down when there are new posts 17:11 markveidemanis #scroll 17:12 markveidemanis 1%/sec 17:12 markveidemanis vanessae 17:12 Jordach then use a real irc clienyt 17:12 Jordach client 17:12 VanessaE hm? 17:12 markveidemanis how did u set up server?? 17:13 * Jordach facepalms 17:13 VanessaE markveidemanis: very carefully? 17:13 VanessaE ;) 17:13 markveidemanis with all the port forwarding and such... 17:13 markveidemanis 60%... 17:13 STHGOM its working now... 17:14 VanessaE port....forwarding? 17:14 markveidemanis yes 17:14 VanessaE oh, you must mean those poor souls who use dedicated routers :-) 17:14 Jordach like me 17:14 markveidemanis huh? 17:14 VanessaE I don't use such a monster. I let my PC handle that job via its normal firewall software. 17:14 VanessaE so it doesn't have to port forward, as it is also the machine that runs the minetestserver instanc. 17:14 VanessaE +e 17:15 Calinou VanessaE: how do you manage to connect your computer(s) to the internet without a router? 17:15 Calinou since when normal ISPs let you do that... 17:15 markveidemanis after, can you test my server, i THINK i set up port forwarding:) 17:15 Calinou try canyouseeme.org to check 17:15 markveidemanis 99%... 17:15 markveidemanis black screen. 17:16 VanessaE give it time. 17:17 markveidemanis im on! 17:17 VanessaE cool 17:18 VanessaE 12:11 to 12:17, so 6 minutes. Not bad for the initial download time for 20MB of media :-) 17:18 markveidemanis how do i clear chat, lol just typed /mods 17:19 VanessaE er... no idea :-) 17:20 markveidemanis go on server, discuss pipeworks :) 17:21 markveidemanis and grant me interact :) 17:21 VanessaE sec. 17:22 khonkhortisan Does anyone know how to trick port triggering into being port forwarding? 17:22 Jordach what do we look likie? Loki? 17:22 khonkhortisan Who's that? 17:22 brobostigon hello again, sorry for my asceance, have been very unwell. 17:22 brobostigon abscance* 17:23 sfan5 does the regex "*" math to anything? 17:23 Jordach ho hey 17:23 Jordach oh 17:23 brobostigon hey Jordach 17:23 sfan5 *match 17:23 thexyz . matches everything 17:24 thexyz * means the last pattern may be repeated any number of times 17:25 brobostigon i just got my server backups out, tried to restart my server, it starts, but i cant connect to it, i have check that the port is open, and dont see any errors. any ideas? 17:25 marktraceur sfan5: Did you need something from me earlier? 17:25 khonkhortisan run wireshark or something similar so you can see what's saying what 17:27 markveidemanis k 17:27 brobostigon khonkhortisan: i have an xmpp server runing on the same server, and can connect to that fine, so i know networking etc works, also i am connected to it with ssh. 17:27 markveidemanis vanessae: crashed 17:27 VanessaE markveidemanis: sowwy :-) 17:27 Jordach there, concrete by RAPHEAL fixed 17:27 VanessaE markveidemanis: chat console/F10 crash? 17:27 markveidemanis i relog... 17:27 markveidemanis loading much faster now 17:28 VanessaE yes, you've got all the media now, so it'll be faster 17:28 brobostigon also, am i right in saying, it should run fine, as a normal debian user, ? 17:28 marktraceur brobostigon: What port are you using? 17:28 markveidemanis black screen!!] 17:29 brobostigon marktraceur: i have tried 30000 and now am trying 1500 17:29 markveidemanis arrrrgggghh 17:29 marktraceur brobostigon: I'm not sure 1500 will work as well 17:29 VanessaE crashed again? 17:29 marktraceur brobostigon: There's some cutoff below which you need root privs to bind to a port 17:29 brobostigon marktraceur: 30000 the standard, didnt work either. 17:29 VanessaE marktraceur: 1024. 17:29 marktraceur brobostigon: It might be ~1024, but 30000 is for sure going to work :) 17:29 brobostigon marktraceur: ok, let me try that port again, 17:30 OldCoder Zeg9, PM 17:32 brobostigon marktraceur: same result, gets stuck on connecting to server, and nothing logs server end, as to something trying to conenct to it. 17:33 marktraceur brobostigon: You've triple-checked that the address is correct? 17:36 sfan5 marktraceur: i accidently hightlighted you 17:37 sfan5 thexyz: shouldn't it be ".*" ? 17:37 thexyz depends on what are you trying to achieve 17:37 thexyz sfan5: http://gskinner.com/RegExr/ 17:37 thexyz very useful 17:38 sfan5 thank you 17:38 Jordach see david_ the link works, dont it 17:38 david_ hi :D 17:38 david_ yep! 17:38 david_ :) 17:38 marktraceur sfan5: What exactly do you want to match? Regexes are fun. 17:38 sfan5 ... 17:39 sfan5 . matches every char .* machtes one line 17:39 thexyz don't tell me you're trying to parse XML using regex 17:39 david_ Always this many people? :) 17:39 marktraceur sfan5: That's correct, yes 17:39 marktraceur sfan5: But only because regexes usually implement . as being 'anything but a newline', which is probably very wrong 17:39 OldCoder thexyz, it is basically impossible for me to build the current branch for Windows. I can build Boost fine. But cmake refuses to find Boost no matter how I beg it to do so. I removed LevelDB from the code and then it built. But it crashes. thexyz can you give me a way to build the code without (a) MySQL (b) Boost (c) LevelDB ? 17:39 sfan5 thexyz: no 17:40 Jordach david_ yes, type this command /nick davidpace 17:40 david_ okay, why? 17:40 davidpace oh 17:40 Jordach it changes your name to the correct forum member 17:40 thexyz OldCoder: did you see that https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/326 ? 17:40 davidpace :) 17:40 OldCoder thexyz, R 17:40 Jordach awesome shader use http://ubuntuone.com/751RyY2dy2u4bDF9Hl7Sa1 17:40 davidpace Thanks Jordach 17:40 VanessaE OldCoder: plantlife seems to be stable. also, homedecor and HDX got updated last night. 17:40 marktraceur sfan5: (^|\n)[^\n]* would probably do the job as well, and not be confusing based on what we understand as "every character" 17:40 OldCoder VanessaE, ty 17:41 OldCoder thexyz, a dummy backend is already in the code. Regardless, is that available as a diff please? 17:41 davidpace Any way to do a pm? 17:41 marktraceur davidpace: /msg 17:41 davidpace oh thanks 17:41 Jordach /msg 17:41 thexyz OldCoder: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/326.diff 17:41 iqualfragile http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1732348/regex-match-open-tags-except-xhtml-self-contained-tags/1732454#1732454 parsing xml using regex 17:41 davidpace Thanks! 17:41 thexyz iqualfragile: +1 for the link 17:41 brobostigon marktraceur: the ip works, the hostname, which point to it, which is same as my xmpp server, which works. doesnt. 17:41 OldCoder thexyz, thank you and I will try again today. 17:41 Jordach and yes RealBadAngel is here 17:42 thexyz OldCoder: there's no mysql in that patch 17:42 OldCoder thexyz, what about MySQL ? I get error messages for that even if I turn it off 17:42 davidpace Okay 17:42 OldCoder thexyz, I have manually deleted it from the source but fear there may be mistakes there 17:42 thexyz why do you need to build windows client with leveldb support? 17:42 Jordach OldCoder - why not remove the cout << stuff here 17:42 marktraceur brobostigon: So your hostname works for XMPP but not for minetest? 17:42 OldCoder thexyz, I am trying to build it *without* leveldb support 17:42 OldCoder Not *with* 17:43 markveidemanis vanessae, plz test my server 17:43 brobostigon marktraceur: exactly. 17:43 thexyz OldCoder: then just don't use leveldb patch 17:43 OldCoder thexyz, it is not a patch! 17:43 VanessaE no :-) 17:43 marktraceur brobostigon: Mind giving me the hostname? I can try from here. 17:43 VanessaE marktraceur: what's the host+port? 17:43 OldCoder thexyz, it is the code I am using; the fork I have prepared. I need to be able to disable leveldb 17:44 brobostigon marktraceur: jabber.taylorworld.me.uk 17:44 VanessaE damn it 17:44 VanessaE not marktraceur... 17:44 VanessaE markveidemanis: host + port? 17:44 OldCoder thexyz, I started with your leveldb branch. Added patches from upstream and fixes of my own. Now I simply wish to build a Windows client. But cmake won't find Boost. So I wish to disable leveldb. And there are MySQL errors. 17:44 * OldCoder shrugs 17:44 OldCoder Ports are fun! 17:45 thexyz OldCoder: well, i'm no longer maintaining this fork; we've decided that c55 will implement some sort of backend support and then leveldb will exist as a patch 17:45 markveidemanis console server not work 17:45 OldCoder :-) 17:45 markveidemanis tried to runin console 17:45 OldCoder thexyz, you are not able to comment on how to disable LevelDB then? 17:45 PilzAdam !up minetest.ru 17:45 markveidemanis ok, multiplayer game:) 17:45 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.ru:30000 UP 17:45 OldCoder thexyz, C55 proposal may take months 17:45 markveidemanis ummm... 17:45 OldCoder thexyz, I have users right now 17:45 markveidemanis need to find my ip 17:45 VanessaE markveidemanis: ipconfig or ifconfig, from a terminal. 17:46 marktraceur brobostigon: Works for me 17:46 markveidemanis no, i got it 17:46 markveidemanis typed ip in google 17:46 davidpace Is there anyway to make it so it automatically scrolls down for you? 17:46 marktraceur brobostigon: Question, have you ever successfully logged into the server with the username you're using? If so, can you try a different username? 17:46 markveidemanis 213.123.65.242 17:46 brobostigon marktraceur: weird. hmm, ok thank you. 17:46 celeron55 has this been tested? https://github.com/redcrab/minetest/commit/588db4fcc4b17ca0a884cbebb2b9d1f9ee5b0db7 17:46 markveidemanis failed to bind socket 17:46 brobostigon marktraceur: i have yes, it is the same username and password, as it was on my old server. 17:47 thexyz OldCoder: i can only suggest you to update to latest master and merge my patch (new one) 17:47 Jordach celeron55 - what does that do 17:47 thexyz then leveldb is disabled by default 17:47 thexyz enable it using cmake -DENABLE_LEVELDB=1 17:47 VanessaE celeron55: if redcrab authored it, it's probably been tested to death. He's kinda anal about that. :-) 17:47 marktraceur brobostigon: Sometimes a session will stick around after a crash. If a different username works and your usual one doesn't, you may need to restart the server to kill the session. 17:47 VanessaE (hi redcrab ;) ) 17:47 Jordach oh my bad, thats a minetestmapper 17:47 brobostigon marktraceur: or could it just be dns issue here, as ip works, but not hostname. and xmpp works from bitlbee on my other vps. 17:48 markveidemanis ok, its up port 30001 17:48 marktraceur Oh, well yeah 17:48 marktraceur brobostigon: You didn't say you were trying the two services from different machines :) 17:49 VanessaE markveidemanis: no good. 17:49 brobostigon marktraceur: i had thought, it was a different issue. hence didnt see it as something that should be mentioned. 17:49 markveidemanis just started it now:) 17:49 OldCoder thexyz, there is no way to merge LevelDB into upstream ATM as C55 does not plan to add the framework for a while. Upstream is all crashy also. If you will not help with disable LevelDB for Windows I will continue to try. I thank you for LevelDB regardless. It has made things much better. 17:49 * OldCoder is on an errand 17:49 * OldCoder back soon 17:49 markveidemanis its up now 17:50 VanessaE markveidemanis: still not working. 17:50 brobostigon marktraceur: ok this is weird, i fired up pidgin, on my desktop here, and it connects to it. same hostname, hmm. 17:50 thexyz OldCoder: well, i've already pointed you here https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/326 17:50 thexyz and i still don't understand why do you need to build windows client using leveldb-patched sources instead of clean ones 17:51 marktraceur brobostigon: So I wonder again if it's the session hanging around 17:51 brobostigon marktraceur: so it isnt a dns issue. 17:51 iqualfragile brobostigon: wich hostname? 17:51 celeron55 i won't bother reading all of your discussion, but make sure you aren't trying to use ipv6 addresses 17:51 marktraceur brobostigon: Unless you've already tried restarting the server, I'd try now. 17:51 davidpace 17:51 brobostigon marktraceur: server end, it shows as i left game. 17:51 marktraceur iqualfragile: I've already confirmed it works for me, so it's his machine for sure 17:51 brobostigon marktraceur: ok. moment. 17:52 thexyz VanessaE: https://github.com/VanessaE/plantlife/blob/master/plants/init.lua~ 17:52 iqualfragile i could recommend using !up hostname for testing 17:52 VanessaE thexyz: dammit, I thought I had a .gitignore for those. 17:52 markveidemanis server is up on port 30001 , console mode now 17:52 VanessaE huh. 17:52 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~/Minetest-Textures-and-mods/mods/plantlife$ cat .gitignore 17:52 VanessaE *~ 17:53 * VanessaE shrugs and deletes the offending files. 17:53 Jordach VanessaE - gedit much> 17:53 redcrab celeron55 VanessaE : my pull request concerned the python script only , and was tested in context of my usage ... for instance the error occurs when you want to genmap a far in north/or/south area 17:54 brobostigon marktraceur: same result, restarted the server. 17:54 marktraceur Jordach: Why would you reroute STDOUT from gedit? That just seems a bit random. 17:54 iqualfragile !up jabber.taylorworld.me.uk 17:54 markveidemanis try my server:) 17:54 moltenbot Minetest server jabber.taylorworld.me.uk:30000 UP 17:54 markveidemanis and how do i connect to local server?? 17:54 VanessaE Jordach: yup. syntax highlight, good search+replace, grouped indenting.. it's a decent editor these days, if it would just stop un-highlighing and un-selecting on click. 17:54 VanessaE markveidemanis: 127.0.0.1 port whatever 17:54 iqualfragile enter 127.0.0.1 as hostname 17:54 marktraceur brobostigon: Maybe Minetest is using some weird way of looking up DNS entries, give it a bit to figure things out 17:55 Calinou VanessaE: gedit uses zeitgeist, ftl 17:55 markveidemanis ty, works 17:55 Calinou geany ftw 17:55 brobostigon marktraceur: leave it trying to connect ? 17:55 VanessaE Calinou: wfm :-) 17:55 davidpace redcrab: could you add sokomines locks mod to your 0.4.3 server? 17:55 marktraceur brobostigon: Maybe just disconnect for a while, or use the IP address, or something 17:55 brobostigon marktraceur: ok, thanks for the help . :) 17:55 markveidemanis im in 17:56 markveidemanis vanessae, try to connect 17:56 Jordach davidpace - redcrab only adds things if they be stable 17:56 davidpace its not? 17:56 Jordach anyone got a 0.4.4-dev server going?> 17:56 markveidemanis me 17:56 markveidemanis i think 17:56 VanessaE Jordach: me. 17:56 davidpace ip port? 17:56 Jordach actually one i can get to preferrably 17:56 markveidemanis 213.123.65.242:30001 17:56 Jordach VanessaE PM me 17:56 VanessaE Jordach: 24.181.193.82 port 30000 17:57 VanessaE markveidemanis: no good. 17:57 markveidemanis it load?? 17:57 celeron55 redcrab: i am mostly concerned about version compatibility; that easily breaks when you fix it 17:57 VanessaE markveidemanis: it doesn't even connect. 17:57 markveidemanis why?? 17:57 markveidemanis i set up port forward... 17:57 davidpace Jordach: Why is your name all in red? Are you a moderator? 17:58 Jordach because its a colour 17:58 Jordach there are no moderators, only operators 17:58 davidpace Everyone elses are black -.- 17:58 VanessaE markveidemanis: it is for this reason that I refuse to use a router and insist on my modem being a direct feed to my PC without some dumbass NAT/firewall/whatever running 17:58 markveidemanis it not work... 17:58 davidpace Are you a operator? 17:59 VanessaE my PC is perfectly capable of being the firewall, I don't need some extra piece of hardware doing that for me and just getting in my way. 17:59 Jordach thexyz - to show that your a op, just kick me for a few seconds 17:59 davidpace O_O 17:59 Jordach anyone with a @before them 17:59 Jordach is op 17:59 VanessaE per your request, Jordach :-) 17:59 davidpace Cool 17:59 Jordach see, thats a mod = op 18:00 davidpace okay 18:00 VanessaE a chanop can kick, ban, set certain channel control modes, and one or two other things. 18:00 Jordach and of course mute 18:00 Jordach (you cant talk) 18:00 davidpace Why is all of VanessaE's other posts without an @? 18:00 Jordach the forum and irc are separate 18:01 davidpace ahhh okay 18:01 Jordach thexyz cancel the request please 18:01 markveidemanis vanessae: plz help me setup server:) 18:01 thexyz oh 18:01 Jordach VanessaE demo'd 18:01 thexyz i just wanted to test that 18:01 Jordach but thanks anyways 18:01 VanessaE davidpace: because I normally don't carry op status around with me, most of us don't. 18:01 thexyz were you testing auto-rejoin? 18:01 davidpace Okay! 18:01 davidpace :D 18:02 VanessaE davidpace: you'll only see an @ if the person talking has oper status at that moment. 18:02 Jordach thexyz - no, to show davidpace what an op is 18:02 thexyz ok 18:02 Jordach (new guy to irc) 18:02 davidpace Thanks for introducing me to this :) 18:03 davidpace When was this "irc" setup? 18:03 iqualfragile wtf? 18:04 iqualfragile srsly? 18:04 VanessaE davidpace: IRC has been around since the early days of the internet, 20+ years I suppose. 18:04 iqualfragile are you kidding me? 18:04 davidpace I'm talking about for minetest 18:04 iqualfragile ah, well, thats something different 18:04 marktraceur iqualfragile: What are you asking about? 18:04 VanessaE davidpace: you mean "when was this IRC channel set up?". that I don't know, perhaps 2 years ago? :-) 18:05 davidpace I knew how long irc has been here :) 18:05 davidpace Okay 18:05 iqualfragile i thought he did not know that irc has been around forever 18:05 iqualfragile was a litle bit dazed 18:05 marktraceur Ah yes 18:05 davidpace haha, I knew about this from when I first started using the pc 18:06 marktraceur In the beginning, there was chaos. And Jarkko said, "Let there be IRC." And there was IRC. And it was good. 18:06 davidpace :-) 18:07 PilzAdam In the beginning, there was chaos. And Jarkko said, "Let there be IRC." And Chuck Norris answered: "Say please!" 18:07 davidpace So whenever someone mentions your nickname there name turns red for that post? 18:07 thexyz davidpace: depends on your client 18:07 thexyz you may be using telnet as well 18:08 davidpace Alright 18:08 marktraceur PilzAdam: The only thing I can think to say is http://www.stallmanfacts.com/ 18:09 thexyz > Stallman knows of an unfixed bug in TeX 18:09 Calinou > promotes FOSS 18:09 thexyz nah, can't be true 18:09 Calinou > releases stuff he writes with CC BY-ND 18:09 OldCoder Back 18:10 OldCoder and i still don't understand why do you need to build windows client using leveldb-patched sources instead of clean ones 18:10 marktraceur > Richard Stallman never showers: he runs 'make clean'. 18:10 OldCoder thexyz, I am reasonably sharp but I confess I don't understand the preceding 18:10 marktraceur > When Richard Stallman gets pissed off he doesn't swear, he recurses. 18:10 marktraceur And I'll leave you to it on that note 18:10 OldCoder As I said I'll continue to try 18:10 VanessaE *groan* 18:10 OldCoder thexyz, I am not using "patched" sources in that sense 18:11 OldCoder They are your db_backends branch. I will try to pull your main branch if it is fully compatible otherwise. 18:11 OldCoder Regarding the other "pull" I will review that as well 18:11 OldCoder Thank you 18:11 thexyz you should better use celeron55's master branch 18:11 * OldCoder sighs 18:12 OldCoder thexyz, that branch is not compatible with 0.4.3 18:12 thexyz minetest/minetest was not updated for a long time 18:12 thexyz OldCoder: revert to commit when it was compatible 18:12 OldCoder thexyz, I have 18 worlds and active users. I cannot switch to something broken that crashes and does not have LevelDB 18:12 thexyz it's git, remember 18:12 OldCoder thexyz, I am aware of this 18:12 thexyz weren't we talking about building client, not server? 18:13 OldCoder thexyz, Yes. I have patches of my own against your branch. I need to use that branch for now. Kind of busy IRL. Have spent more time on this than I can afford. 18:13 OldCoder thexyz, Thanks again for the feature. It was a major step forward for the project. 18:13 OldCoder thexyz, I'll keep you and others posted 18:13 celeron55 hanging on irc doesn't probably do any good to that 18:14 OldCoder celeron55, hmm? 18:14 celeron55 to the time usage 8) 18:14 Fabiter Good evening. :D 18:14 OldCoder celeron55, I like you but we don't quite communicate. I am literal. If people ask questions I must answer. Oddly you yourself don't seem to understand the answers. 18:14 OldCoder Fabiter, Hi! 18:14 VanessaE "The more complex the mind, the greater the need for the simplicity of play." 18:15 OldCoder Indeed 18:15 Fabiter All right? 18:15 OldCoder Right or write it is a sight 18:15 redcrab celeron55 : regarding compatibility issue .. my tests were done with Python 2.6.8 on linux 32 bits 18:15 Fabiter Mhh, dont know.. Sry! :) But you know what i mean? :D 18:16 OldCoder No 18:16 Calinou hi Fabiter 18:16 Fabiter Hey Calinou. :) 18:16 Fabiter Can i join a Server? (A Server of yours? ) 18:17 Jordach > Richard Stallman doesn't get compiler warnings. He warns the compiler. 18:17 Calinou minetest.org port 30003 18:17 Calinou noone plays on "my" server though :/ 18:17 Fabiter :D 18:18 Fabiter Yeah, the first server, that will be works! :D 18:18 OldCoder Calinou, then publicize it. It is a fine world! 18:18 OldCoder Except for that odd trampoline trap :-( 18:18 davidpace Is it any good? 18:18 iqualfragile !up minetes.org 30003 18:18 moltenbot Minetest server minetes.org:30000 UP 18:18 Jordach you just stand still for 20seconds 18:18 VanessaE Jordach: Chuck Norris doesn't get compiler warnings. It's too afraid to do anything but return true. :-) 18:18 thexyz how do i specify port to moltenbot? 18:18 moltenbot Hi, thexyz 18:18 thexyz hi, moltenbot 18:18 moltenbot Hi, thexyz 18:18 thexyz hi, moltenbot 18:18 moltenbot Hi, thexyz 18:19 thexyz nah, he's stupid 18:19 sfan5 thexyz: the rrs module is doen 18:19 Jordach bullshit, Chuck Norris is beaten irl by kung-fu legends 18:19 sfan5 Hi, moltenbot 18:19 moltenbot Hi, sfan5 18:19 davidpace Chuck Norris? 18:19 sfan5 *done 18:19 Fabiter How long, does it loads? (The Connect to the Server? ) 18:19 thexyz now what if we put two moltenbots and say hi, moltenbot? 18:19 moltenbot Hi, thexyz 18:19 OldCoder Fabiter, depends 18:19 sfan5 Hi, moltenbot 18:19 moltenbot Hi, sfan5 18:19 davidpace Hi moltenbot 18:19 sfan5 hi MinetestBot 18:19 moltenbot Hi, davidpace 18:19 MinetestBot Hello sfan5! 18:19 sfan5 Hi, moltenbot 18:19 moltenbot Hi, sfan5 18:20 sfan5 hi MinetestBot 18:20 MinetestBot Hello sfan5! 18:20 sfan5 hi moltenbot 18:20 moltenbot Hi, sfan5 18:20 sfan5 hi MinetestBot moltenbot 18:20 moltenbot Hi, sfan5 18:20 davidpace hi moltenbot 18:20 moltenbot Hi, davidpace 18:20 sfan5 hi MinetestBot moltenbot 18:20 moltenbot Hi, sfan5 18:20 PilzAdam ... 18:20 davidpace CAN WE STOP THIS? :D 18:20 OldCoder Yep 18:20 celeron55 redcrab: i am talking about map format compatibility 18:20 Fabiter OldCoder: Thanks. :D 18:21 OldCoder No more bot wars I hope 18:21 thexyz sfan5: have you updated it? 18:21 sfan5 thexyz: what? 18:21 celeron55 redcrab: more specifically, i assume you fixed it for the newest version; the question is, does it still work with older ones? 18:21 thexyz sfan5: to post commits 18:21 sfan5 yes 18:22 davidpace hi babyface1031 18:22 babyface1031 hi 18:23 Fabiter I love this game, more than Minecraft.. 18:23 Jordach mhm, shaders look lovely 18:23 Fabiter :3 18:23 davidpace Shaders? 18:23 iqualfragile thexyz: try !help 18:24 Jordach davidpace - like sonicethers mod 18:25 davidpace I do not know what that is.,... 18:27 VanessaE heyjeija. 18:27 Doc22 it adds 3-D lighting to minecraft 18:27 davidpace coolio 18:27 VanessaE Doc22: it also adds 3D lighting to minetest :-) 18:27 Doc22 oh really? 18:27 VanessaE shaders do anyway 18:27 Doc22 ill look it up 18:28 davidpace cooooooooooool 18:28 VanessaE the ones currently being used do. 18:28 davidpace redcrabs server is the most popular server out there! :) And the best (in my opinion) 18:29 Jordach VanessaE - the old lighting model is still there with the shaders 18:29 VanessaE Jordach: yeah I know 18:30 redcrab celeron55 : I tested it on 0.4.3 ... not before ... sorry ... We should have tester with map 9000x9000 that is use with xmin xmax zmin zmax parameter to subdivide the map generation (When I subdivide, I consume less memory, and I ve less often "database locked" message) .... 18:31 VanessaE redcrab: if you *really* wanna stress it, go for the full ~31000x31000 :-) 18:31 sfan5 !g test 18:31 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.test.com/ 18:31 sfan5 yay 18:32 Jordach huzzez.. 18:32 Jordach GLSL shaders are mean 18:33 FreeFull Jordach: Why? 18:33 * Jordach needs to learn more 18:33 redcrab VanessaE : The land should be generated with same average rate :D ... for instance my curretn world is 5.3Gb for environ 10000x10000 ... so envrion with 40Gb generated land :D 18:33 FreeFull Jordach: It's like C, but not C 18:34 redcrab VanessaE : Oops no .. environ 50Gb ! 18:34 VanessaE redcrab: wait, what? 18:34 VanessaE 50 GB? 18:34 VanessaE !? 18:34 * Taoki constantly crashes on RedCrab's server using the latest GIT 18:35 redcrab VanessaE : to have a good stress test quality .... 18:35 VanessaE Oh I see what you meant 18:35 VanessaE (5.3GB and the world is still in one piece? :-) ) 18:36 VanessaE good luck getting to 10GB, let alone 50GB with sqlite :-) 18:36 redcrab My database has curretnly environ 530000 blocks with 5.3GB in a single file 18:36 redcrab extrapolate to 30000x30000 ...:) 18:37 thexyz you'd better switch to leveldb 18:37 marktraceur Are database transactions done in Lua yet? :P 18:38 * marktraceur dreams of one day writing a mod called mongodb_dal 18:38 NekoGloop Is minetest in Lua yet? 18:38 marktraceur NekoGloop: It really *should* be 18:39 marktraceur NekoGloop: I set off trying to set up main-menu mods last week, but didn't get very far 18:39 NekoGloop The C++ end should just be loading the Lua source. 18:39 iqualfragile celeron55: you are missing a / on minetest.net: 18:39 iqualfragile logo 18:39 iqualfragile should be 18:39 VanessaE redcrab: thexyz is right - you should switch to the LevelDB branch ASAP before you lose your world. 18:39 iqualfragile logo 18:39 markveidemanis hi 18:40 markveidemanis anyone got a server up?? 18:40 iqualfragile !up oldcoder.org 18:40 NekoGloop iqualfragile: I think his bot timed out. 18:40 OldCoder Hi 18:40 Calinou My database has curretnly environ 530000 blocks with 5.3GB in a single file 18:40 Calinou challenge: host a server with fat32 filesystem 18:40 iqualfragile right… i have stopped it 18:40 OldCoder iqualfragile, you must specify which port 18:40 marktraceur markveidemanis: minetest.libreplanet.org 30000 18:40 iqualfragile !up oldcoder.org 18:41 VanessaE Calinou: masochistic much? ;) 18:41 babyface1031 hi OldCoder 18:41 iqualfragile not realy, it assumes 30000 18:41 NekoGloop !up oldcoder.org:30000 18:41 OldCoder babyface1031, Hi! 18:41 moltenbot Minetest server oldcoder.org:30000:30000 DOWN 18:41 OldCoder iqualfragile, But I have lots of worlds 18:41 OldCoder Try them all! 18:41 OldCoder :-) 18:41 NekoGloop !up oldcoder.org:30001 18:41 moltenbot Minetest server oldcoder.org:30001:30000 DOWN 18:41 iqualfragile !help 18:41 moltenbot Try !up !ping [] !date [timezone] 18:41 NekoGloop !up oldcoder.org 18:41 moltenbot Minetest server oldcoder.org:30000 UP 18:41 iqualfragile read nekogloop, read 18:41 NekoGloop iqualfragile: Most bots here are half-assed without a help command. 18:41 Jordach NekoGloop it only checks default port 18:42 markveidemanis libreplanet; not work 18:42 PilzAdam !up minetest.ru 12345 18:42 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.ru:30000 UP 18:42 marktraceur markveidemanis: Define "not work" 18:42 babyface1031 30004 is up 18:42 markveidemanis can someone help me test my server?? 18:42 NekoGloop !up minetest.org [30001] 18:42 iqualfragile !up oldcoder.org 30001 18:42 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.org:30000 UP 18:42 moltenbot Minetest server oldcoder.org:30000 UP 18:42 iqualfragile oops 18:42 iqualfragile one moment :D 18:43 markveidemanis 213.123.65.242;30001 18:43 iqualfragile !die 18:43 marktraceur markveidemanis: What isn't working on the libreplanet world? 18:43 iqualfragile -.- 18:43 NekoGloop !lol 18:43 iqualfragile !up oldcoder.org 30001 18:44 markveidemanis just a sec. retry 18:44 OldCoder Space 18:44 iqualfragile !up oldcoder.org 30001 18:44 moltenbot Minetest server oldcoder.org:30000 UP 18:44 OldCoder Yes 18:44 marktraceur iqualfragile: Why do you insist on testing your bots here 18:44 OldCoder Hmm 18:44 OldCoder marktraceur, good point 18:44 OldCoder iqualfragile, ^ 18:44 OldCoder iqualfragile, less bot more thought 18:44 marktraceur iqualfragile: You know there are other channels on this network 18:44 markveidemanis oh, .org lol wrote .net 18:44 OldCoder Yes. Even ##bacon I assuume 18:44 Calinou marktraceur: the libreplanet server should have a forum thread imo 18:44 Calinou few players notice it 18:45 iqualfragile well, im gona take care of that later… 18:45 iqualfragile !die 18:45 marktraceur Calinou: I think we're sort of easing into the launch, for a few different reasons 18:45 marktraceur Calinou: One of the big reasons being that I'm not always around to grant privs 18:46 marktraceur Calinou: The other being that the bulletin apparently isn't final yet, but should be soon 18:46 markveidemanis nothing works: i have 3 minetests open, 1 running server, 1 connected to different server and 1 trying to connect 18:46 Calinou bulletin? 18:46 markveidemanis can soeone test my server 18:46 marktraceur Calinou: http://fsf.org/bulletin/2012/fall 18:46 markveidemanis 213.123.65.242:30001 18:47 markveidemanis how i connect to local server?? 18:48 VanessaE 127.0.0.1 18:48 VanessaE and whatever port it's on 18:48 VanessaE that's how I sign into my server (the one you were on earlier) 18:48 markveidemanis soz i forgot 18:49 Calinou "GNU MediaGoblin and FSF team up to crowdfund the future of media publishing, " oh god not again 18:49 markveidemanis try my server 18:49 Calinou >avoids SaaS 18:49 markveidemanis 213.123.65.242:30001 18:49 Calinou >supports SaaS thingy 18:49 marktraceur Calinou: GMG will be federated, so 18:50 marktraceur Calinou: More like Software as a Software 18:50 Calinou also, our image/video/music viewer ought to be enough for everybody 18:50 Calinou and apache dirs too 18:51 marktraceur Calinou: Have you tried GMG? It's pretty nice. 18:52 Calinou yeah, worth the $60000 people donated 18:52 Calinou it locks us down to an image/video/music viewer i don't want 18:52 markveidemanis vanessae 18:52 marktraceur Calinou: $42000, but whatever 18:52 markveidemanis try my server 18:52 marktraceur Calinou: And you can download the media easily, so it's not a lock-in 18:52 Calinou yes, but it doesn't encourage people to view the files with whatever they want 18:53 Calinou no wonder why i get 30 downvotes when i say steam is evil DRM stuff... make donation campaigns for better things :| 18:53 marktraceur Calinou: Well, all web viewers are supposed to enable quick previews of media, then you download what you really like for offline viewing 18:53 markveidemanis VanessaE 18:53 VanessaE I'm not playing right now 18:54 markveidemanis ok 18:54 * VanessaE tries it... 18:54 VanessaE no good, markveidemanis. 18:54 Jordach markveidemanis - im going to do this on the behalf of #minetest - shush 18:54 markveidemanis so it not work?? 18:54 Calinou marktraceur: we don't need a fancy html5 thingy to do that, just saying :P 18:54 Jordach no, it does not 18:55 Calinou and yet, the guy making it got $42000.. 18:55 Jordach Calinou - and you wonder where all the c/c++ coders are 18:55 Calinou :> 18:55 Jordach sitting around doing nothing because html5 is a flawed design 18:55 Jordach (and frankly its slow as shit on android and iOS 18:55 Jordach =) 18:56 marktraceur Calinou: Considering that a less-skilled Flickr engineer would likely be paid $90,000 per annum to produce 1/5 of the functionality that paroneayea is going to make....I'd say we got an OK deal 18:56 markveidemanis vanessae, is there an alternative to port forwarding 18:56 Jordach html5 is a OSS flash 18:56 Jordach markveidemanis - nop there is not 18:56 Jordach -p 18:56 VanessaE markveidemanis: configuring your hardware to not get in your way. 18:56 markveidemanis like hamachi?? 18:56 marktraceur Calinou: Oh, and of course, GMG will be AGPL, as opposed to the Flickr Private License 18:56 Jordach no one will use it 18:56 VanessaE hamachi? DIAF. 18:57 Jordach s/DIAF/DIGAF 18:57 Jordach VanessaE - you missed a G 18:57 VanessaE G? 18:57 Jordach "give" 18:57 VanessaE Die In Give A Fire? 18:57 marktraceur Jordach: Die In A Fire 18:57 marktraceur Jordach: You're thinking of DGAF, which is totally different 18:58 Jordach i though of a different term 18:58 Jordach it involves fuge and not caring :) 18:58 Jordach fudge* 18:58 OldCoder Fugue State perhaps 18:58 VanessaE fudge? 18:58 OldCoder Fudge State is probably more fun 18:58 VanessaE the word is "fuck". 18:58 OldCoder Nah 18:59 OldCoder Fudge is a word unto itself 18:59 markveidemanis oldcoder 18:59 VanessaE "Don't say [fudge]... if you're gonna use the F-word, go for the gold." 18:59 OldCoder Indicating that one will bury one's self in chocolate 18:59 OldCoder markveidemanis 18:59 Calinou marktraceur: 2012 -- noone uses flickr 18:59 markveidemanis help me setup port forward and server plz 18:59 OldCoder markveidemanis, very well but talk in the channel and others may chip in 19:00 OldCoder What is your setup? Do you have a router? 19:00 markveidemanis ok 19:00 marktraceur Calinou: Well. Whatever the kids are using. DeviantArt or Picasa or some other non-free shit. 19:00 VanessaE we can't help you with that very well without knowing your hardware and software configuration. 19:00 thexyz deviantart is awesome 19:00 markveidemanis i have bt router and i think i setup port forward in the config... 19:00 VanessaE marktraceur: what, doesn't everyone have their own host+domain these days? :-) 19:00 markveidemanis but it not work 19:00 Jordach http://www.ohloh.net/p/minetest-c55/estimated_cost : we shave spent almost a million dollars in costs 19:00 NekoGloop s/awesome/shit/ 19:01 markveidemanis well, when others try to connect, thats what they say... :) 19:01 Jordach (if we had salaries) 19:01 OldCoder markveidemanis, There may not be much we can do as we can't see it. Can you describe the steps you took? 19:01 thexyz NekoGloop: why? 19:01 OldCoder markveidemanis, you may need to find a network IT type friend who can go to your PC and look at it 19:02 markveidemanis i found out my internal ip address, typed in address bar, typer router admin pass, selecter port forwarting>configure>app name = minetest, port 30000-30001, translate to = nil 19:02 markveidemanis um, can u 19:02 markveidemanis like with teamviewer 19:02 VanessaE translate to nil? maybe that's wrong? 19:03 markveidemanis vanessae: your server has too many light updates, i think someone set up a mesecons lagg machine 19:03 marktraceur VanessaE: I have my own domain and I run my own GMG instance, yes :) but sadly most people don't realize this is possible. 19:03 redcrab VanessaE : on https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/branches I do not see any "LevelDB" branch ... ?..? 19:04 VanessaE redcrab: use thexyz's repo I guess 19:04 markveidemanis no, have 2 attributes: translate to nil and translate 30000-30001 to 30000-30001 the same, should work 19:04 Jordach markveidemanis im going against my standards here 19:04 thexyz marktraceur: wtf is GMG? 19:04 Jordach im going in to help 19:04 Calinou ²gnu mediagoblin 19:04 markveidemanis can i post screenshot? 19:04 thexyz redcrab: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/326 19:04 VanessaE markveidemanis: you want to translate to 30000-30001 I guess. 19:04 MinetestBot matttpt commited to celeron55/minetest: Add #include guards to base64.h a47b829040 19:04 MinetestBot PilzAdam (PilzAdam) commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Use the group attached_nodes https://gi 19:04 VanessaE translate to nil probably effectively blocks them 19:04 Calinou erm, he authored, not comitted :p 19:04 markveidemanis going to post screenshot... 19:04 sfan5 yay 19:05 markveidemanis ummm... how?? 19:05 sfan5 Calinou: whatever 19:05 Jordach markveidemanis - i sent you a pm 19:05 Calinou marktraceur: pay me a VPS then, if you want this to be possible 19:05 Calinou and the domain 19:05 VanessaE markveidemanis: how would we know? it's your router :-) 19:05 Jordach if its a british telecom router i could probably do it 19:06 Calinou low-end vpses start at 12 euros/month (with taxes), this means 144 euros/year, if i want to buy a computer every 3 years, this means i "lost" 434 euros that i could use in computer 19:06 Jordach (saying that i have one too, but i use belkin) 19:06 Calinou and hosting server in my house is no-no, bandwidth is too low 19:06 Calinou (electricity isn't free, too) 19:06 marktraceur Calinou: I host a server over DSL, seems to work OK 19:06 * Jordach has fee electric at night 19:06 Jordach free 19:06 Calinou 0.3mbps upload bandwidth > sure... :/ 19:06 Calinou will make people download @ 50kb/sec at most 19:07 marktraceur Calinou: I'm SSH'd in all day at work, and I get acceptable speed from the webserver 19:07 Calinou (and that uses all my upload, making me lag) 19:07 VanessaE Calinou: given the current state of Minetest's networking code, that's more than most people will actually be able to get anyway 19:07 NekoGloop markveidemanis: Try a later minetest-build 19:07 Calinou i might get optic fiber in a few months :> 19:07 VanessaE and running a server 24/7 will only add around $5 to your monthly bill if the server is recent and the code is lightweight (which minetestserver tends to be) 19:08 Jordach Calinou same ere 19:08 markveidemanis_ crashed 19:08 Jordach markveidemanis_ click my name on the right please# 19:08 Jordach and hit query 19:08 redcrab thexyz : is not yet merged ... Thanks for the info.. When ready I will need help to do the migration ... 19:09 Calinou VanessaE: i have no server computer ;) 19:10 Calinou 2 laptops (a 17" with fairly good hw and a netbook) 19:10 Calinou and this desktop 19:10 Jordach OldCoder and thexyz can do this 19:10 Jordach for you redcrab 19:10 OldCoder Hmm? 19:10 thexyz redcrab: it won't be merged 19:10 Calinou might consider making a server at home if i get optic fiber though 19:10 OldCoder What does he need? 19:10 MinetestBot matttpt commited to celeron55/minetest: Add #include guards to base64.h a47b829040 19:10 MinetestBot PilzAdam (PilzAdam) commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Use the group attached_nodes 3928eccf74 19:10 VanessaE Calinou: any dusty old desktop less than 10 years old is good enough. 19:11 neko259 Did ABM mechanism change in 0.4 stable from the old 0.4 dev? My tree growing acts very strange again. 19:11 Calinou VanessaE: i know, i wouldn't host a minecraft server anyway :) 19:12 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZ2p3MQ EWWWW 19:12 VanessaE heh 19:12 Calinou neko259: old = ? 19:12 VanessaE NekoGloop: ew what? 19:12 VanessaE ^^^^ my server 19:12 Calinou neko259: very strange? 19:12 NekoGloop The blue crap 19:13 VanessaE twait, wtf? 19:13 * VanessaE gets on to look 19:13 Calinou ^ what happens when you have an AMD GPU 19:13 Calinou :p 19:13 thexyz NekoGloop: will you answer my question? 19:13 redcrab : (( ... redcrab: it won't be merged 19:13 neko259 Calinou: With 1 ABM event my sapling grows on the ground, it grows into a trunk, and the trunk grows up continiously until it reaches the sky. I have a very tall tree. 19:13 VanessaE NekoGloop: looks okay to me with default textures. disable texture atlas? 19:14 Calinou she said 19:14 neko259 But all of that grows have chanse value, they don't have to grow so far it one step. 19:15 celeron55 sfan5: could you make that show the dates of the commits? 19:15 sfan5 celeron55: yes 19:16 celeron55 hmm, i wonder how you should handle the author date and the commit date 19:16 celeron55 probably don't care about author date at all 19:17 iqualfragile btw: i think its great that there is so much progress on minetest 19:21 iqualfragile smooth day/night looks great 19:25 NekoGloop Now make it so there's generated structures. 19:25 Calinou now add hunger, experience, abandoned mineshafts, rain 19:26 Calinou and it'll be AWESOME 19:26 Calinou 19:26 NekoGloop sans hunger, yes. 19:26 NakedFury can the hunger and other similar systems be added by lua instead of source? 19:26 NekoGloop once we can print crap to the screen, yes. 19:27 Calinou theorically 19:27 Calinou but there would be no hunger bar :p 19:27 NakedFury so new bars[for hunger or drowning or armor or some other use] would need source code modifications? 19:27 Calinou drowning is possible in lua, no bar though 19:27 NekoGloop yep 19:28 Calinou yes, new bars need source mod 19:28 Calinou gtg now, bye 19:29 simion314 ecraft 19:30 simion314 sorry 19:36 Zeg9 Gotta go. 19:37 VanessaE Is there anything I can do to an ABM to force the 'pos' variable to be at least somewhat random? 19:38 VanessaE (over large areas abms have a tendency to create patterns if you're also controlling for density of the objects being added by it) 19:38 Jordach math.random(, 19:38 Jordach +) 19:38 Jordach i = math.random(1,-1), pos.y = i 19:39 Jordach pos.y = pos.y + i 19:39 Jordach better 19:40 iqualfragile fixed it 19:41 iqualfragile !up oldcoder.org 30001 19:41 moltenbot Minetest server oldcoder.org:30001 DOWN 19:41 iqualfragile timed out, was starting 19:41 iqualfragile !up oldcoder.org 30001 19:41 moltenbot Minetest server oldcoder.org:30001 UP 19:41 PilzAdam Taoki, how do i get the attachment parent of an object in Lua? 19:42 marktraceur VanessaE: Is the density-of-objects check something that the engine does, or is your mod doing it alone? 19:42 marktraceur VanessaE: I guess my question is just a front for "Can you use a larger area for the density check?" 19:43 marktraceur VanessaE: If you only use the minimum, then of course a pattern will emerge, but if you check the density in a larger area then the ABM's default randomness should have more meaning 19:44 Jordach !up europe.minetest.org 19:44 moltenbot Minetest server europe.minetest.org: DOWN 19:45 Jordach !up 213.123.65.242 19:45 moltenbot Minetest server 213.123.65.242: DOWN 19:45 iqualfragile gml… now it fails when not giving a port 19:45 iqualfragile i should create another script wich feeds testcases to the bot and then checks if the output is correct 19:46 Jordach !up 213.123.65.242 30000 19:46 moltenbot Minetest server 213.123.65.242:30000 DOWN 19:46 iqualfragile is one secnd of time to answer enought? 19:47 iqualfragile i could increase that to 2 or 3 19:47 Jordach !up 217.43.103.216 30000 19:47 moltenbot Minetest server 217.43.103.216:30000 DOWN 19:48 Jordach my ports should be open dammit 19:48 Jordach !up 217.43.103.216 30000 19:48 moltenbot Minetest server 217.43.103.216:30000 UP 19:48 Jordach yep 19:48 Jordach dont use singleplayer derp 19:49 iqualfragile so the bot is helpfull? 19:49 iqualfragile !die 19:49 Jordach yes 19:49 sfan5 iqualfragile: yes 19:49 Jordach it helps when testing port forwarding 19:50 iqualfragile !up minetest.org 19:50 moltenbot Minetest server minetest.org:30000 UP 19:50 iqualfragile ah, great 19:50 NakedFury I am playing there with a guy called Shaun 19:53 Jordach RealBadAngel - are you around? 19:56 RealBadAngel yeah, just woke up 19:57 klunk so hello have a good day ! 20:02 Minetest-tan GIT: matttpt commited to celeron55/minetest: Add #include guards to base64.h a47b829040 2012-12-03T09:44:54-08:00 20:02 Minetest-tan GIT: PilzAdam (PilzAdam) commited to celeron55/minetest_game: Use the group attached_nodes 3928eccf74 2012-12-01T05:39:23-08:00 20:03 thexyz !g minetest 20:03 Minetest-tan thexyz: http://minetest.net/ 20:04 klunk where chtuputru minetest? 20:04 klunk hello ohn 20:05 marktraceur klunk: Good question! 20:05 klunk john 20:05 klunk sorry, I thought bot catch minetest word to put a answer : epic fail trial ... 20:06 sfan5 !sv 20:06 Minetest-tan sfan5: Jordach's Pixel Art | redcrab.suret.net:30402 up (95.348%) 20:11 klunk §sv -help 20:11 klunk !sv -help 20:11 Minetest-tan klunk: AviActu Global Minetest Server (0.4.3) | aviactu.info:30000 up (96.051%) 20:11 sfan5 klunk: sv gives you a random server from http://servers.minetest.ru/ 20:12 klunk ooook, thanks, is there a.... -help somewhere to deal with this bot ? 20:12 sfan5 no 20:12 klunk )) 20:13 sfan5 but the commands are !wik !sv !g !gc and !tw 20:13 sfan5 you can also do this: 20:13 sfan5 hi Minetest-tan 20:13 Minetest-tan Hey sfan5 20:16 klunk ok real thanks; you confirm only me saw output of commands ? 20:16 klunk I mean when I write a command for a bot here is everybody see output result 20:16 thexyz klunk: you may PM her as well 20:19 klunk oh yes thanks I will try that, so that no flood for other :-) 20:21 klunk bbl 20:30 PilzAdam bye 20:31 tim_ hi 20:33 tim_ is there a worlds end anywhere ? 20:33 marktraceur tim_: 'round 32K in all directions 20:35 tim_ ;.) 20:37 marktraceur tim_: I'm not joking, that's the boundary 20:38 tim_ how long does it take to travel 32k blocks in RL ? 20:39 marktraceur tim_: 32K blocks is a different story 20:39 marktraceur tim_: But each node is 1 meter, so it's roughly like running a marathon and then some, I suppose 20:40 marktraceur My bad, less than a marathon 20:40 NakedFury takes a long time 20:40 NakedFury the terrain isn't flat 20:40 NakedFury so you would have to move around a lot 20:41 marktraceur tim_: World record time for a marathon is 02:03:38 in hours 20:41 marktraceur So I gotta figure ~1.5 hours in real life 20:42 NakedFury http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Far_Lands 20:42 NakedFury read that 20:42 tim_ hmm, i had lost my mine, because i died, and now i can not find i anymore. 20:43 tim_ haha 20:43 NakedFury about how long it would take in minecraft to reach the Far lands, around 820 hours 20:46 tim_ my son loves this game so much 20:47 marktraceur tim_: Two things, next time, don't die, also, mark your mine with some aboveground structure 20:47 NakedFury and three press f5 and write down the coordinates 20:47 NakedFury x y z 20:48 iqualfragile !die 20:50 marktraceur *nod* good point, NakedFury 20:52 tim_ f5 is good. thanks 20:52 NakedFury I always do that first 20:52 NakedFury too easy to die 20:59 tim_ what to read first if someone want to do a mod? 21:00 thexyz http://api.minetest.net/ http://wapi.minetest.ru/Main_Page https://raw.github.com/celeron55/minetest/master/doc/lua_api.txt 21:00 RealBadAngel another mod :) 21:00 RealBadAngel and the docs of course 21:01 RealBadAngel but existing and working mods are the best source of examples 21:01 * Jordach is heading off to bed now 21:14 sfan5[iPod] !commands 21:38 Uberi hey, anyone see Jeija around recently? 21:46 iqualfragile ok… that took me some time 21:46 iqualfragile *some* time 21:46 iqualfragile http://api.minetest.net/ 21:46 moltenbot iqualfragiles link: Minetest API 21:46 iqualfragile https://raw.github.com/celeron55/minetest/master/doc/lua_api.txt 21:46 moltenbot iqualfragiles link: 21:47 iqualfragile http://wapi.minetest.ru/Main_Page 21:47 moltenbot iqualfragiles link: Minetest API 21:47 Uberi does anyone have an offline copy of the api site? 21:48 iqualfragile !re 21:52 bulletrulz hiii!!!!!LLLO 21:53 Uberi hey bulletrulz 22:20 iqualfragile !define LCD 22:21 moltenbot http://ddg.dg: lcd definition: an electronic display (as of the time in a digital watch) that consists of segments of a liquid crystal whose reflectivity varies according to the voltage applied to them. 22:21 iqualfragile yaay 22:21 iqualfragile !help 22:21 moltenbot Try !up !ping [] !date [timezone] !define 22:25 marktraceur iqualfragile: Why are you still testing your bot in here 22:25 iqualfragile i am not 22:25 marktraceur And yet, the above exchange suggests that you are 22:25 iqualfragile thats called showing off 22:26 marktraceur iqualfragile: Congratulations, you're a master of if statements and HTTP requests 22:26 iqualfragile nah, thats not me, thats the caffeine in my venes 22:27 marktraceur iqualfragile: There's caffeine in your venereal diseases? 22:28 VanessaE another update to plantlife if anyone cares. figured out a simple solution to the random vs. patterns issue I mentioned. 22:28 marktraceur VanessaE: What was it? 22:28 iqualfragile vein 22:29 iqualfragile s/venes/veins 22:29 marktraceur iqualfragile: That's good, then. You may also want to learn about regular expressions while you're all hopped up. 22:29 VanessaE marktraceur: well normally I use a minetest.env:find_node_near(pos,radius,nodelist) call to keep the plants from growing too close together 22:29 marktraceur *nod* 22:29 VanessaE I solved it by adding math.random(-1.5,2) to the radius parameter. 22:29 marktraceur Ah, perfect 22:30 iqualfragile what are you implying marktraceur? 22:30 iqualfragile that was just a vim-command 22:30 VanessaE of course it's perfect - that's because *I* wrote it ;) 22:30 marktraceur iqualfragile: I'm implying that you have no idea how regexes work because you failed to write a valid one just now 22:31 iqualfragile as i explained: put that into the command-mode of vim and it will replace the right word 22:32 iqualfragile and i _do_ have an idea how regexes work 22:32 marktraceur iqualfragile: I'm also extremely peeved at you "showing off" trivial achievements in your bot project in this channel. 22:32 VanessaE marktraceur: if you want the code, it's on my github repo 22:32 marktraceur VanessaE: No, I was interested in the solution to the problem, but not the mod :) 22:32 iqualfragile wait a moment: you said you would leave if some bot would be able to do timezoned dates? 22:33 iqualfragile !date canada 22:33 moltenbot Mo 3. Dez 22:33:04 canada 2012 22:33 VanessaE well it's at https://github.com/VanessaE/plantlife in case you want it later :-) 22:33 marktraceur *nod* cheers 22:34 iqualfragile well, *I* think i won the discusion but that might be seen differently from another perspective 22:35 VanessaE brb 22:48 Taoki LOL! When the lighting bug causes 3D players to show black, there's a short moment when I get the impression they're an enderman. Because they look like a player and are black :P 22:48 Taoki Until I remember it's minetest, and they're not that tall either 22:55 RealBadAngel lol 22:55 RealBadAngel hi Taoki 22:56 Taoki hi 23:22 VanessaE Ah the american standard toilet - a nice idea...until it starts to leak. 23:26 NakedFury leaky toilets are never good 23:28 RealBadAngel why not 23:28 RealBadAngel theyre perfect to floot the wc 23:28 NakedFury wc? 23:28 RealBadAngel *flood 23:28 iqualfragile toilet 23:37 iqualfragile !die 23:38 iqualfragile !die 23:39 RealBadAngel lol 23:40 RealBadAngel !lol 23:40 RealBadAngel doesnt work? ;) 23:53 iqualfragile no lols were given 23:57 Dogzilla131 who can help me, tell me what i did wrong in the code. http://pastebin.com/eb8mxPYC