| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
LandMine |
well i was running a server that was fun |
| 00:00 |
OldCoder |
Octupus, O.K. |
| 00:00 |
Kacey |
it was fun until he BANNED me for placing blocks that my retard brother thought exploded |
| 00:00 |
LandMine |
but im not gonna pay for the vps anymore so it will go down in 4 days |
| 00:01 |
LandMine |
ill release the map when it goes down |
| 00:01 |
Kacey |
i have started making schems |
| 00:01 |
LandMine |
cool, i like making schems |
| 00:01 |
LandMine |
and as always |
| 00:01 |
OldCoder |
The bank in that world is good |
| 00:02 |
LandMine |
i was the first one to post a shcem on the forums :) |
| 00:02 |
LandMine |
then everyone started to |
| 00:02 |
NekoGloop |
LandMine: Nice lies. |
| 00:02 |
NekoGloop |
Vanessa posted one long before you. |
| 00:02 |
Uberi|Busy |
LandMine: actually, I was, I wrote the schematic exporter |
| 00:02 |
Kacey |
we could make schems together landmine IF there is no griefing afterwards |
| 00:02 |
LandMine |
check the forums dudes |
| 00:03 |
LandMine |
ACDC (old user) is the first thread of schematics |
| 00:03 |
Octupus |
Which is you |
| 00:03 |
LandMine |
true to some extent |
| 00:04 |
Muadtralk |
landmine could have just used the username |
| 00:04 |
Kacey |
i am thinking of making a whitelist server |
| 00:04 |
OldCoder |
Kacey, there are always tradeoffs |
| 00:04 |
Muadtralk |
doesnt mean that at one point there might have been an ACDC |
| 00:04 |
Muadtralk |
example |
| 00:05 |
Muadtralk |
not a very good example but it gets a point through hopefully |
| 00:06 |
Kacey-ubuntu |
my bot (new and tested) is gonna take over for a while |
| 00:06 |
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| 00:06 |
LandMine_ |
crap i disconected lol |
| 00:07 |
LandMine_ |
anyhow as you can see this is the very first schem released |
| 00:07 |
LandMine_ |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2156 |
| 00:07 |
LandMine_ |
by me :) |
| 00:07 |
LandMine_ |
like i was typing before i d/c |
| 00:07 |
LandMine_ |
k here is the story |
| 00:07 |
LandMine_ |
<LandMine> at first i started as landmine |
| 00:07 |
LandMine_ |
<LandMine> but got to notorious with it |
| 00:07 |
LandMine_ |
<LandMine> so i changed to ACDC |
| 00:08 |
LandMine_ |
but then a friend of mine was using the name ACDC since both of them had privs on ecubes server |
| 00:08 |
LandMine_ |
so we used to go and grief together |
| 00:08 |
LandMine_ |
so sometimes i was ACDC other times not |
| 00:08 |
LandMine_ |
Kacey Muadtralk NekoGloop |
| 00:08 |
Muadtralk |
I knew that |
| 00:09 |
Muadtralk |
ive been greived enough times by you to know when it was and wasnt you who did it |
| 00:09 |
Kacey-ubuntu |
Kacey is not available right now, sorry. |
| 00:09 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/gaming_center.png |
| 00:10 |
sokomine |
ah, still there, rba? i'd like to see how player look inside the carts :-) |
| 00:10 |
RealBadAngel |
ok, i will join |
| 00:11 |
LandMine_ |
wth? when have i griefed you Muadtralk? |
| 00:11 |
LandMine_ |
ohh btw |
| 00:12 |
Kacey |
ok i am back |
| 00:12 |
OldCoder |
Kacey, wb |
| 00:12 |
LandMine_ |
Kacey was once using my name to go and grief on servers to get ban privs |
| 00:12 |
LandMine_ |
it was funny |
| 00:12 |
Kacey |
what servers landmine |
| 00:12 |
NekoGloop |
LandMine_: You have no idea how fun that is. |
| 00:13 |
Kacey |
i enjoy unhashing passwords |
| 00:14 |
sdzen |
maybe you know me by this name? |
| 00:14 |
Kacey |
Kacey-ubuntu isn't evil this time around |
| 00:14 |
Kacey |
sdzen? |
| 00:14 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gyM7GA0q74 Welcome to my carnival! |
| 00:14 |
sdzen |
yes? |
| 00:14 |
Kacey |
dude i did not know that was you!! |
| 00:14 |
NekoGloop |
Does not pay attention ^ |
| 00:15 |
sdzen |
how many times must i explain this to people? |
| 00:15 |
sdzen |
and I did tell this to you kacey |
| 00:15 |
Kacey |
really? |
| 00:15 |
NekoGloop |
sdzen: This is known as trolling. |
| 00:15 |
Kacey |
no i seriously did not know |
| 00:15 |
LandMine_ |
lol sdzen whats up |
| 00:16 |
sdzen |
nothing |
| 00:16 |
LandMine_ |
k here is another story of how cool i am |
| 00:16 |
LandMine_ |
i once when in to sdzens server |
| 00:16 |
Octupus |
I remember you fucked up the cloud box |
| 00:16 |
LandMine_ |
and griefed it |
| 00:16 |
LandMine_ |
like 3 times |
| 00:16 |
LandMine_ |
then he set up a giant cloud blox |
| 00:16 |
NekoGloop |
LandMine_: Yeah, once you were named "Octupus" |
| 00:16 |
LandMine_ |
to gkeep new people in |
| 00:16 |
Kacey |
he BANNED me for placing blocks that my brother thought exploded |
| 00:16 |
LandMine_ |
and he had the teleporter mod installed |
| 00:16 |
NekoGloop |
Kacey: Who the hell are you talking to/about? |
| 00:17 |
Octupus |
NekoGloop: He was never Octupus |
| 00:17 |
Kacey |
landmine |
| 00:17 |
LandMine_ |
so i just had to made a teleport pad to get out hahahhaha |
| 00:17 |
NekoGloop |
Octupus: Yeah he was. |
| 00:17 |
sdzen |
then i found the teleporter pads |
| 00:17 |
Octupus |
When |
| 00:17 |
sdzen |
and destroyed them |
| 00:17 |
sdzen |
btw |
| 00:17 |
LandMine_ |
btw something that is funnier i made a mod give me the mese to make those teleporter pads hahaha |
| 00:17 |
sdzen |
yes Usuarizo did yes? |
| 00:17 |
LandMine_ |
no it was some other person |
| 00:18 |
LandMine_ |
i dont recall the name |
| 00:18 |
sdzen |
USA? |
| 00:18 |
sdzen |
ray8888? |
| 00:18 |
sdzen |
Octupus? |
| 00:18 |
LandMine_ |
he had a store inside the cloud |
| 00:18 |
NekoGloop |
Tobias? |
| 00:18 |
LandMine_ |
trading store |
| 00:18 |
Octupus |
I remember him |
| 00:18 |
LandMine_ |
i said i had nothing to trade |
| 00:18 |
sdzen |
Drherbertwest? |
| 00:18 |
LandMine_ |
but if i could have some mese |
| 00:18 |
LandMine_ |
so he gave it to me |
| 00:18 |
LandMine_ |
lol |
| 00:18 |
sdzen |
xxthexxDeadxxManxx |
| 00:18 |
Octupus |
Hi Kaceybot |
| 00:19 |
NekoGloop |
TheNoobiestGriefer |
| 00:19 |
NekoGloop |
Also known as landmine. |
| 00:19 |
Kaceybot |
i am going afk for a while so my bot (Kacey-ubuntu) is taking over |
| 00:19 |
LandMine_ |
ok |
| 00:19 |
sdzen |
now now landmine is rather good |
| 00:19 |
Octupus |
K |
| 00:19 |
NekoGloop |
LandMine_: At least i dont have to hack to grief. |
| 00:19 |
LandMine_ |
thats casue you cant hack |
| 00:19 |
sdzen |
he came up with some interesting ways to greive |
| 00:20 |
NekoGloop |
I could if i wanted to. |
| 00:20 |
NekoGloop |
I just have no need to. |
| 00:20 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, It would not be orderly |
| 00:20 |
NekoGloop |
OldCoder: Shut up already. |
| 00:20 |
sdzen |
I still wish that the war on keegan had not been called off |
| 00:20 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, as you wish, kitty |
| 00:20 |
sdzen |
i was so close to a massive strike on him |
| 00:21 |
Kacey |
k back |
| 00:21 |
LandMine_ |
wait |
| 00:21 |
LandMine_ |
im sorry Kacey i totally got things twisted lol |
| 00:22 |
LandMine_ |
it wasnt you who was using my name |
| 00:22 |
LandMine_ |
it was Keegan lol |
| 00:22 |
LandMine_ |
i remember now |
| 00:22 |
telek |
Say has anyone looked into attaching items onto either PC or NPC models? |
| 00:22 |
Kacey |
good cuz i never met you in game until idk when actually |
| 00:22 |
NekoGloop |
LandMine_: Go back to playing with rubber dinosaurs like the rest of the 8 year olds. |
| 00:22 |
sdzen |
yes |
| 00:23 |
sdzen |
they have telek |
| 00:23 |
telek |
sdzen: There a forum post on it, or is it mostly IRC chat? |
| 00:23 |
sdzen |
Pm me |
| 00:23 |
LandMine_ |
NekoGloop i would understand why you would hate on me, i mean shit i am the best griefer and the best builder on all minetest |
| 00:23 |
LandMine_ |
look at my sexy pixal art |
| 00:24 |
LandMine_ |
http://gyazo.com/dc5944e4749ae0f88a979f98ff8bfe84 |
| 00:24 |
NekoGloop |
You are most certainly not. |
| 00:24 |
Kacey |
but how come you aren't in ebm? |
| 00:24 |
NekoGloop |
And i am most certainly not falling for your virus trap. |
| 00:24 |
Kacey |
elite builders of minetest |
| 00:24 |
Kacey |
i was in it but things turned sour with the others soooo ya |
| 00:24 |
LandMine_ |
a virus trap? gosh you really are dumb lol |
| 00:24 |
NekoGloop |
Kacey: Probably because he breaks more than he builds. |
| 00:24 |
Octupus |
THAT IS THE BEST POKEMON EVER |
| 00:25 |
LandMine_ |
anyhow here is a nother screen shot |
| 00:25 |
LandMine_ |
http://gyazo.com/405bb5b0172f5def2eea0e2d36d2617e |
| 00:25 |
LandMine_ |
this one is a charmander |
| 00:25 |
Kacey |
[17:25:05] <NekoGloop> Kacey: Probably because he breaks more than he builds. nice |
| 00:25 |
Octupus |
Boss charmander |
| 00:26 |
LandMine_ |
ebm? thats some gay stuff right there |
| 00:26 |
LandMine_ |
im better than everyone in that group put otgether |
| 00:26 |
Kacey |
i made a crab from pixel art |
| 00:26 |
Kacey |
no u arent landmine |
| 00:26 |
LandMine_ |
yup....but i know 2 guys who are awesome |
| 00:26 |
Kacey |
we once built a 500 x 500 city in 3 hours |
| 00:26 |
LandMine_ |
thetinydon and FNG |
| 00:26 |
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| 00:26 |
LandMine_ |
those dudes are boss |
| 00:26 |
NekoGloop |
LandMine_: You can only build two things: lava and saplings. |
| 00:27 |
LandMine_ |
or was it FHG |
| 00:27 |
LandMine_ |
i think it was FHG |
| 00:27 |
Octupus |
LandMine_: I thought u were gonna say me :P |
| 00:27 |
Octupus |
Joke :) |
| 00:27 |
LandMine_ |
lol |
| 00:27 |
Kacey |
i am more of a planner than a builder |
| 00:28 |
LandMine_ |
and this here is my charmeleon |
| 00:28 |
LandMine_ |
http://gyazo.com/24e31812eb7c9e1077a460d322018340 |
| 00:28 |
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| 00:28 |
LandMine_ |
like the rest pretty boss :) |
| 00:28 |
Octupus |
Yep |
| 00:28 |
Octupus |
M |
| 00:28 |
Octupus |
Those are my favorite pokemons |
| 00:28 |
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| 00:29 |
Octupus |
Including the squirrel |
| 00:29 |
tsquar3d |
So, is there any mapping software out there that can be used with minetest like c10t? |
| 00:29 |
Octupus |
*squirtle ad blastoff |
| 00:29 |
Octupus |
*blastoid |
| 00:29 |
Kacey |
hmmmmm |
| 00:29 |
LandMine_ |
you mean blastoise |
| 00:29 |
LandMine_ |
lol |
| 00:29 |
Octupus |
Yes :) |
| 00:29 |
LandMine_ |
yeah he looks cool too |
| 00:29 |
LandMine_ |
but i jsut made those 3 and got bored |
| 00:30 |
Kacey |
ok got it |
| 00:30 |
LandMine_ |
so Kacey who are in this EBM? |
| 00:30 |
Kacey |
idk anymore i got kicked out a while back |
| 00:31 |
Kacey |
i want to make a schem anyone with me in that? |
| 00:32 |
LandMine_ |
well if mauvebic isnt in it, they must suck |
| 00:32 |
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| 00:33 |
LandMine_ |
i once found 2 dudes/girls that called them selfs the Griefing Squad |
| 00:33 |
LandMine_ |
i was like lol |
| 00:33 |
LandMine_ |
i think Kacey was in there |
| 00:34 |
Kacey |
i dont grief anymore |
| 00:34 |
Kacey |
i used to back when i was playin 0.3.1 |
| 00:34 |
Octupus |
I do once in a while |
| 00:35 |
LandMine_ |
ohhh lol i remember once on a server not sure which one htough kacey had /give privs |
| 00:35 |
LandMine_ |
and gave himself tons of iron ingots |
| 00:35 |
LandMine_ |
like 500 |
| 00:35 |
LandMine_ |
and put them in a open chest |
| 00:35 |
LandMine_ |
i found them and took them |
| 00:35 |
LandMine_ |
and used them to grief lol |
| 00:35 |
Kacey |
menches serer and that was aggie thatdid that |
| 00:35 |
LandMine_ |
ohh lol yeah menches server |
| 00:35 |
Kacey |
i gave myself a crap ton of cloud |
| 00:36 |
LandMine_ |
it was like 4000 ingots |
| 00:36 |
LandMine_ |
cause i made tons of blocks to trap people lol |
| 00:36 |
Kacey |
anyone want to make a schem with me? |
| 00:37 |
LandMine_ |
what are you on? |
| 00:37 |
LandMine_ |
server? or your pc |
| 00:37 |
Kacey |
pc but i am running a server |
| 00:38 |
LandMine_ |
i see |
| 00:38 |
Kacey |
ya |
| 00:40 |
LandMine_ |
bulletrulz is my new best friend NekoGloop so get off my balls or you will have to see yourslef with him |
| 00:40 |
NekoGloop |
LandMine_: Unlike you, i actually play the game instead of ruining it for others. |
| 00:41 |
LandMine_ |
i thought you said you didnt play mt hhahahaahha |
| 00:41 |
bulletrulz |
i am working with landmine to try to make him a better person for the communnity |
| 00:41 |
NekoGloop |
bulletrulz: gl hf |
| 00:41 |
NekoGloop |
LandMine_: I said i dont play on a server. |
| 00:42 |
NekoGloop |
Mainly because of faggots like yourself. |
| 00:42 |
LandMine_ |
im not gay though...why call me a fagg? |
| 00:42 |
NekoGloop |
Because you are? |
| 00:42 |
LandMine_ |
even if i was i could beat the shit out of you :) |
| 00:42 |
NekoGloop |
No you couldnt |
| 00:43 |
LandMine_ |
yup |
| 00:43 |
NekoGloop |
Because you're just a frail little child, sitting in front of a computer with no friends, annoying others because you think they cant do anything to you. |
| 00:44 |
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| 00:44 |
LandMine_ |
i actually have a cold, and have school tommorow lol i already got wasted yesterday and friday |
| 00:44 |
LandMine_ |
cause unlike you i wasnt here all day those 2 days lol |
| 00:45 |
OldCoder |
Cold is persisting? |
| 00:45 |
OldCoder |
It can take a couple of weeks |
| 00:45 |
NekoGloop |
Unlike you, I have a heart. And morals. |
| 00:45 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, What are your morals? |
| 00:45 |
OldCoder |
Speak of them |
| 00:45 |
OldCoder |
I'm curious |
| 00:45 |
NekoGloop |
OldCoder: Shut up already. |
| 00:45 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, what's wrong? |
| 00:45 |
NekoGloop |
OldCoder: You're talking to it. |
| 00:46 |
OldCoder |
I'm a bit tired already so bear with me |
| 00:46 |
OldCoder |
You are speaking as well |
| 00:46 |
OldCoder |
Did you notice that? |
| 00:46 |
LandMine_ |
lol yeah OldCoder it sucks, but i dont have my nose runnin like before |
| 00:46 |
LandMine_ |
i have eaten tons of oranges but doesnt seem to work |
| 00:47 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, you've initiated most of the communication. LandMine_ Vitamin C works mostly to reduce the odds initially. So does zinc. There are no cures. |
| 00:47 |
NekoGloop |
LandMine_: Karma. That's all. |
| 00:47 |
OldCoder |
Colds are inevitable |
| 00:47 |
telek |
NekoGloop and LandMine_: Have you considered hanging out on EFNet or DalNet or somewhere if you wanna talk smack? |
| 00:47 |
OldCoder |
telek, That might not serve the purpose |
| 00:47 |
OldCoder |
They are Chaos and Order. One of them has admitted this. |
| 00:47 |
telek |
Lol. |
| 00:48 |
LandMine_ |
it was NekoGloop btw |
| 00:48 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
| 00:48 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, what are your goals? |
| 00:48 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, what shall it be? |
| 00:48 |
OldCoder |
|
| 00:48 |
NekoGloop |
It shall be you shutting up |
| 00:48 |
OldCoder |
Why is that important? |
| 00:49 |
NekoGloop |
Because I've had enough of you? |
| 00:49 |
OldCoder |
Though I will shortly as my breathing is shifting |
| 00:49 |
OldCoder |
It happens at this time |
| 00:49 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, that is not much of a reason |
| 00:49 |
NekoGloop |
Yes it is |
| 00:49 |
OldCoder |
Order has spoken |
| 00:49 |
OldCoder |
But Order is rigid |
| 00:49 |
OldCoder |
And therefore fragile |
| 00:49 |
OldCoder |
You know this is true |
| 00:49 |
telek |
Hey, is it possible to position objects(nodes?) at the intersection of voxels, instead of 'in' them? |
| 00:49 |
OldCoder |
Good question |
| 00:50 |
OldCoder |
And far more on-topic |
| 00:50 |
telek |
IE for centering a table or chairs and such? |
| 00:50 |
telek |
I'm mostly working off Dwarf Fortress and trying to 'shoehorn' equivalents into minetest, as far as making maps work. |
| 00:50 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRgdm92aNWg&feature=related |
| 00:51 |
OldCoder |
We are nearly done rebuilding 30001 |
| 00:51 |
telek |
Near as I can figure a square in DF would need to be a 2x2 in Minetest (minimum to have a 'stair' going up/down, as well as centering tables, chairs etc to allow movement through an 'occupied' square. |
| 00:51 |
OldCoder |
it has some interesting places |
| 00:51 |
OldCoder |
Would anybody like to build there? |
| 00:51 |
OldCoder |
Early takers may get op |
| 00:52 |
NekoGloop |
Since this community serves no purpose, would you all like me to pull what cornernote did? |
| 00:53 |
LandMine_ |
no one would care trust me |
| 00:53 |
NekoGloop |
LandMine_: You are not the center of the universe. |
| 00:55 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, No. We would not like that at all. |
| 00:55 |
LandMine_ |
of course i am |
| 00:55 |
LandMine_ |
i am THE SHIT! |
| 00:56 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, "Shut Up" or not. Do you recall what I said to you in PM a few weeks ago? |
| 00:56 |
NekoGloop |
You are shit, I can assure you of that. |
| 00:56 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, I'll need to mute you |
| 00:56 |
OldCoder |
And I don't want you to leave |
| 00:56 |
OldCoder |
You are needed |
| 00:56 |
NekoGloop |
You perfectly do |
| 00:56 |
OldCoder |
Who what now? |
| 00:56 |
NekoGloop |
You do want me to leave. |
| 00:56 |
OldCoder |
No |
| 00:56 |
NekoGloop |
You just selfishly want my work to stay. |
| 00:56 |
OldCoder |
I came to you in PM recently when I realized something |
| 00:57 |
OldCoder |
Nope |
| 00:57 |
NekoGloop |
Like the rest of the humans. |
| 00:57 |
OldCoder |
You are half human |
| 00:57 |
OldCoder |
Don't knock it |
| 00:57 |
OldCoder |
It's an odd situation. Complicated. |
| 00:57 |
telek |
OldCoder: You're wrong. |
| 00:57 |
OldCoder |
Oh? |
| 00:57 |
OldCoder |
telek, go on |
| 00:57 |
telek |
NekoGloop is half cat and half slime :D |
| 00:57 |
OldCoder |
telek, Why was that remark necessary? |
| 00:57 |
OldCoder |
And he is no such thing |
| 00:57 |
NekoGloop |
gloop == slime |
| 00:57 |
Octupus |
Na true |
| 00:57 |
OldCoder |
Ah! |
| 00:57 |
telek |
:) |
| 00:58 |
OldCoder |
I stand corrected |
| 00:58 |
OldCoder |
And I apologize! |
| 00:58 |
NekoGloop |
yet, still, it doesnt matter to any of you what i do. |
| 00:58 |
OldCoder |
Rubbish |
| 00:58 |
telek |
Coincidentally having been mucking through the entire backlog of mods since March, I don't think anyone involved with Minetest is expendable. |
| 00:58 |
NekoGloop |
I could completely wipe out all evidence of my mods. |
| 00:58 |
OldCoder |
That's a lot of mods |
| 00:59 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, yep |
| 00:59 |
OldCoder |
That would be bad |
| 00:59 |
OldCoder |
And remember |
| 00:59 |
OldCoder |
cornernote gave his back |
| 00:59 |
NekoGloop |
And none of you would care. |
| 00:59 |
* OldCoder |
sighs |
| 00:59 |
OldCoder |
Bullsh*t |
| 00:59 |
OldCoder |
Order is Stasis. Inflexible. Fragile. |
| 00:59 |
NekoGloop |
The truth can often be shitty. |
| 00:59 |
OldCoder |
It can break. |
| 00:59 |
OldCoder |
Yes. |
| 01:00 |
OldCoder |
You need a bit of Chaos in you. |
| 01:00 |
telek |
NekoGloop: crafting viewer. |
| 01:00 |
LandMine_ |
Thats for accepting no one would care if you leave NekoGloop |
| 01:00 |
LandMine_ |
GloopOres? what a useless piece of mod |
| 01:01 |
telek |
I would say that right there out of all your mods makes you an indispensable part of the community. |
| 01:01 |
NekoGloop |
All my mods are equally useless. |
| 01:01 |
OldCoder |
Or valuable |
| 01:01 |
NekoGloop |
telek: I didnt make the craft guide. |
| 01:01 |
telek |
D'oh |
| 01:01 |
telek |
That was c'ns doing. |
| 01:02 |
NekoGloop |
so lets see, edit out the first post of each mod... |
| 01:03 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, you could; but why? |
| 01:03 |
NekoGloop |
To prove the point that noone gives a shit? |
| 01:03 |
telek |
NekoGloop: Okay, cactus mod. Western's style gate mod. |
| 01:03 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, you are sort of talking at random |
| 01:03 |
OldCoder |
People do wish the mods |
| 01:04 |
telek |
Now we just need a six shooter mod+ 3d avatars and we'll have goldrush-test :D |
| 01:05 |
LandMine_ |
NekoGloop starts to mental masturbate when he feels presured or looses control of the situation he think he had |
| 01:05 |
LandMine_ |
:) |
| 01:05 |
LandMine_ |
he will continue saying lots of nonsense |
| 01:05 |
LandMine_ |
and like the last tiem he will say it was a bot talking |
| 01:05 |
LandMine_ |
hehehe |
| 01:05 |
LandMine_ |
anyhow im just gonna stop tlking to him :) |
| 01:05 |
OldCoder |
LandMine_, now the balance has shifted to you. What you say is true. Let him find his own way. |
| 01:05 |
OldCoder |
That is best |
| 01:06 |
OldCoder |
He is more fragile than you |
| 01:06 |
OldCoder |
He doesn't need to be |
| 01:06 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, what is it that you need? |
| 01:06 |
OldCoder |
And don't bother |
| 01:06 |
NekoGloop |
http://minetest.net/forum/search.php?action=show_user_topics&user_id=2600 |
| 01:06 |
* OldCoder |
shrugs |
| 01:06 |
OldCoder |
I am not going to click that |
| 01:07 |
NekoGloop |
why not? it shows the result of your carelessness. |
| 01:07 |
OldCoder |
My carelessness? |
| 01:07 |
OldCoder |
I am far from perfect |
| 01:08 |
OldCoder |
But I have done what I can |
| 01:08 |
OldCoder |
And my breathing is shifted now |
| 01:08 |
OldCoder |
You wouldn't understand |
| 01:08 |
OldCoder |
Another minute or so I'll be conscious |
| 01:08 |
OldCoder |
No more I feel |
| 01:08 |
OldCoder |
Still it's been real |
| 01:08 |
OldCoder |
Back in about 15 minutes I hope |
| 01:08 |
* OldCoder |
is a bit unwell |
| 01:09 |
telek |
OldCoder: Hope ya feel better. |
| 01:10 |
NekoGloop |
What is the purpose of being here if there is no support from the community, but only hatred? |
| 01:12 |
telek |
NekoGloop: Having been through a similiar situation in the text-based gaming days: if you're unhappy with the community then your best bet is to just stop complaining and move to a community where you feel appreciated. |
| 01:14 |
NekoGloop |
Fine then. |
| 01:14 |
LandMine_ |
yeah go to the barbie community or something pickle kisser |
| 01:14 |
NekoGloop |
Have fun with using my mods when they get out of date. |
| 01:15 |
NekoGloop |
And have fun showing them to new players. |
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LandMine_ |
babyface1031 nekogloop has left the community he was saying it was your fault |
| 01:16 |
LandMine_ |
what did you do to him? |
| 01:17 |
babyface1031 |
i know it wasnt me so i know you are just trying to start stuff |
| 01:18 |
LandMine_ |
dude check the logs, he said alot of awefull stuff as well |
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Octupus |
Hi |
| 01:19 |
babyface1031 |
umm well i dont hardly talk on here so i know its not true |
| 01:20 |
babyface1031 |
adn second i am not a dude |
| 01:20 |
babyface1031 |
hi Octupus |
| 01:20 |
Octupus |
:) |
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RealBadAngel |
oke doke, all textures ready, its finished: http://realbadangel.pl/t_machine.png |
| 01:23 |
LandMine_ |
uuuuuu babyface1031 wassup girl |
| 01:23 |
LandMine_ |
let me get that numba |
| 01:23 |
LandMine_ |
hahahahahahaha |
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babyface1031 |
haha i dont think so first you wanted to start drama between me and NekoGloop and now that you know i am a woman you want me number |
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babyface1031 |
wow you make me laugh |
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LandMine_ |
i was j/k i know your not a women...you could have fooled everyone else |
| 01:26 |
LandMine_ |
and you are the reason he left like i siad see the logs |
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LandMine_ |
i was j/k i know your not a women...you could have fooled everyone else |
| 01:28 |
LandMine_ |
<LandMine_> and you are the reason he left like i siad see the logs |
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babyface1031_ |
um you can fool everyone with this tough guy act but i am a woman i this is the last thing i am saying to you so bye |
| 01:30 |
LandMine_ |
uuuu a lady with an attitude i like it :3 |
| 01:30 |
LandMine_ |
add me on facebook hot stuff babyface1031_ ahahahahahaha |
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RealBadAngel |
somebody will shut this moron please? |
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RealBadAngel |
how long we do have to listen to this bullshits? |
| 01:31 |
LandMine_ |
look who is back |
| 01:31 |
NekoGloop |
LandMine_: stop harrasing babyface. |
| 01:31 |
Octupus |
LandMine_:can u please leave babyface alone she is my friend |
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Kacey |
hello |
| 01:32 |
LandMine_ |
K Octupus just cause YOU asked me |
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Octupus |
thank you :) |
| 01:32 |
Kacey |
what happened? |
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RealBadAngel |
this channel has to be properly moderated |
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LandMine_ |
tell it to your face RealBadAngel |
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Kacey |
what happened with landmine |
| 01:33 |
LandMine_ |
nothing kacey lol |
| 01:34 |
RealBadAngel |
LandMine_, youre lucky you livin so far from me. |
| 01:34 |
Kacey |
well what did octu ask u to do |
| 01:34 |
LandMine_ |
i bet i am fat boy.......and Kacey nothing babyface claimed to be a girl |
| 01:34 |
LandMine_ |
so i just started making fun |
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Kacey |
wow |
| 01:35 |
LandMine_ |
well it wasnt making fun |
| 01:35 |
Kacey |
octu may i have give on 30004? |
| 01:35 |
LandMine_ |
i just said can i hve your number heheh |
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babyface1031 |
i am a woman so whatever |
| 01:36 |
LandMine_ |
that seemed to get RealBadAngel a little pissed |
| 01:36 |
RealBadAngel |
stick your fun deep into your ass and get outta here |
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Octupus |
LandMine-:Please can u stop he is a very good friend of mine |
| 01:36 |
Octupus |
*she |
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babyface1031 |
SHE |
| 01:36 |
LandMine_ |
hahahahahahah |
| 01:36 |
LandMine_ |
im not saying anything to him/her anymore |
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babyface1031 |
GOOD |
| 01:36 |
Kacey |
IM A GUY!!!!!! making sure everyone knew |
| 01:36 |
LandMine_ |
lol Kacey |
| 01:36 |
Octupus |
LandMine_:im am not kidding please stop |
| 01:37 |
LandMine_ |
I did Octupus chill |
| 01:37 |
Octupus |
ok thank you |
| 01:38 |
LandMine_ |
sooo....RealBadAngel tell me what you would do if i was infront of you? |
| 01:39 |
Kacey |
high five u...in the face...with a chevy...going fast |
| 01:40 |
LandMine_ |
lol...i dont think so |
| 01:40 |
Kacey |
i do |
| 01:41 |
LandMine_ |
nah....RealBadAngel doesnt have the balls |
| 01:41 |
Kacey |
i have the balls and then some |
| 01:41 |
LandMine_ |
but i have no isues with you Kacey |
| 01:41 |
LandMine_ |
or do we |
| 01:41 |
Kacey |
i have issues wit u |
| 01:42 |
LandMine_ |
elaborate |
| 01:42 |
Kacey |
banning me for wanting to make a 3d map |
| 01:42 |
Kacey |
using blocks that my brother thought exploded |
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| 01:44 |
Muadtralk |
does anyone know how to use world specific mods? i seem to have forgotten how to use them |
| 01:44 |
Kacey |
nope |
| 01:44 |
LandMine_ |
worldedit? |
| 01:44 |
Muadtralk |
? |
| 01:45 |
Muadtralk |
isolating certain mods to certain worlds |
| 01:45 |
LandMine_ |
ohhh no i have no idea |
| 01:45 |
Kacey |
hmmmmmmmm make a mods folder inside of the world folder perhaps? |
| 01:46 |
Muadtralk |
yes that is how it should work |
| 01:46 |
Muadtralk |
but it doesnt appear to work that way anymore |
| 01:46 |
Kacey |
and then perhaps edit the modpath setting to that folder for only that world |
| 01:46 |
Kacey |
idk ask celeron55 |
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Muadtralk |
thats why i asked the entire channel |
| 01:47 |
Kacey |
aah ok |
| 01:47 |
LandMine_ |
well the way oldcoder did it for me was |
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LandMine_ |
he made a new game mode |
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LandMine_ |
and i put the mods in that gamemode |
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LandMine_ |
and made the map run that gamemode |
| 01:47 |
ecube |
LandMine_: I love you too |
| 01:48 |
LandMine_ |
ecube i love you more than you love me |
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Octupus |
hi ecube |
| 01:48 |
Kacey |
that was random |
| 01:48 |
ecube |
hi |
| 01:48 |
Muadtralk |
ahhhhh |
| 01:48 |
Muadtralk |
there used to be a way to do this more efficently |
| 01:48 |
Muadtralk |
obviously that way is now outdated |
| 01:49 |
LandMine_ |
maybe |
| 01:49 |
Muadtralk |
no there was |
| 01:49 |
Muadtralk |
it was a very nice feature too |
| 01:49 |
LandMine_ |
no i meant maybe it was outdated |
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Kaceybot |
bot taking control for a while |
| 01:51 |
LandMine_ |
Kaceybot what are your funtions? |
| 01:51 |
Kaceybot |
Simply to watch the channel for anybody that needs Kacey |
| 01:51 |
Kaceybot |
If anyone needs him, I alert him |
| 01:52 |
LandMine_ |
aiiight |
| 01:52 |
Kacey |
ok im back |
| 01:54 |
LandMine_ |
yay |
| 01:54 |
Kacey |
Kaceybot wasnt always perfect |
| 01:54 |
Kacey |
infact the first time around (he was Kacey-ubuntu) he was EVIL!!!! |
| 01:54 |
LandMine_ |
OMG! |
| 01:55 |
Kacey |
ya |
| 01:55 |
LandMine_ |
how so? |
| 01:56 |
Kacey |
he got off of my vm and took over my computer for a while completely |
| 01:57 |
LandMine_ |
seems legit |
| 01:57 |
Kacey |
ask oldcoder he witnessed it through irc |
| 01:57 |
LandMine_ |
i never said it wasnt true |
| 01:57 |
LandMine_ |
anyhting can happen |
| 01:58 |
Kacey |
exept me making kacey-ubuntu again |
| 01:58 |
LandMine_ |
i think lots of stuff can happen like babyface1031 giving me that numba :) |
| 01:58 |
Octupus |
LandMine_:STOP |
| 01:58 |
Octupus |
Im Not Kiding |
| 01:59 |
Kacey |
:S |
| 01:59 |
LandMine_ |
gosh |
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Kacey |
Doc22 wb |
| 02:00 |
Doc22 |
Hey |
| 02:00 |
Doc22 |
im joining |
| 02:00 |
Doc22 |
come on in |
| 02:01 |
Doc22 |
30004 |
| 02:01 |
Octupus |
:P |
| 02:01 |
Kacey |
i cant right now but can you work on the wire? |
| 02:01 |
Doc22 |
sure |
| 02:01 |
Kacey |
k thanks |
| 02:01 |
Doc22 |
im probably going to move it a bit |
| 02:01 |
Kacey |
i put it on the ceiling |
| 02:02 |
Doc22 |
octupus you wanna play |
| 02:02 |
Doc22 |
yeah i know |
| 02:02 |
Octupus |
im playing mc |
| 02:02 |
Doc22 |
i might want to change it a little |
| 02:02 |
Kacey |
i put it on the other side |
| 02:02 |
Doc22 |
YOU TRAITER |
| 02:02 |
Doc22 |
(breathes heavily) |
| 02:02 |
Doc22 |
IM NEVER PLAYING WITH YOU AGAIN |
| 02:02 |
LandMine_ |
uuuuuuuu Octupus what server do you play on? |
| 02:02 |
LandMine_ |
i have MC too :) |
| 02:02 |
Kacey |
as long as it reaches the furnaces and stuff, im happy |
| 02:02 |
Doc22 |
D: |
| 02:03 |
Doc22 |
ok |
| 02:03 |
Doc22 |
but i really like having my own network of power lol |
| 02:03 |
Doc22 |
unless im supplying |
| 02:03 |
Doc22 |
i like to be a supplier |
| 02:03 |
Octupus |
LandMine_,mine is cracked |
| 02:03 |
Doc22 |
and i could make like telephone poles |
| 02:03 |
Doc22 |
that would be cool |
| 02:03 |
Kacey |
well it is your own but those coal generators aren't very good |
| 02:03 |
LandMine_ |
buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu\ |
| 02:04 |
Octupus |
its yours cracked? |
| 02:04 |
Doc22 |
uggggghhhhhhhh |
| 02:04 |
Doc22 |
my backk |
| 02:04 |
Doc22 |
i just went on a hike |
| 02:04 |
Doc22 |
today and yesterday |
| 02:04 |
Octupus |
LandMine_,is yours cracked or legit |
| 02:04 |
Doc22 |
and i drank "purified" water from a stream, and now I have explosive diharrea |
| 02:04 |
Doc22 |
-_- |
| 02:04 |
Kacey |
i need to crack mc one of these days |
| 02:05 |
Doc22 |
D: |
| 02:05 |
Doc22 |
you too? |
| 02:05 |
Doc22 |
a traiter? |
| 02:05 |
Doc22 |
:'( |
| 02:05 |
LandMine_ |
i bought it like 3 weeks ag Octupus |
| 02:05 |
Kacey |
i play it at points..... |
| 02:05 |
LandMine_ |
but before that i was using a cracked one |
| 02:05 |
Doc22 |
I AM DESTROYING THE TUNNEL |
| 02:05 |
Octupus |
O |
| 02:05 |
Doc22 |
of a... TRAITER |
| 02:05 |
Kacey |
i only play when my mt servers are down |
| 02:05 |
Doc22 |
im jokin |
| 02:05 |
Doc22 |
lol |
| 02:07 |
Octupus |
LandMine_,do u still have the cracked 1 |
| 02:08 |
LandMine_ |
no....i uninstalled it and installed the bought one |
| 02:08 |
Octupus |
can u play cracked server with the legit 1 |
| 02:08 |
Kacey |
i need a cracked one |
| 02:08 |
LandMine_ |
not sure |
| 02:09 |
LandMine_ |
but i dont wanna risk it lol |
| 02:09 |
Octupus |
lolz |
| 02:09 |
Octupus |
do u remember any cracked server ips |
| 02:10 |
LandMine_ |
i was never able to play on any servers, i only played singleplayer |
| 02:10 |
LandMine_ |
in servers i couldnt even mov |
| 02:10 |
LandMine_ |
move |
| 02:10 |
Octupus |
because u didnt log in |
| 02:12 |
LandMine_ |
well i didnt know back then.......i dont know why i bought it tbh i dont even play it that much heheh |
| 02:12 |
Octupus |
lolz |
| 02:12 |
Octupus |
i wud love for you to play mc with me |
| 02:12 |
Muadtralk |
iremember a cracked server ip |
| 02:12 |
Muadtralk |
i wrote one down |
| 02:13 |
Octupus |
may i have it pwease :) |
| 02:14 |
Muadtralk |
ufg.me |
| 02:14 |
Muadtralk |
you have to register though |
| 02:14 |
Octupus |
ok |
| 02:15 |
Kacey |
omg i am bored |
| 02:15 |
Octupus |
i want to play MC |
| 02:15 |
Octupus |
but the server i play now is boring |
| 02:17 |
Kacey |
i need a cracked versio |
| 02:17 |
Kacey |
version |
| 02:18 |
LandMine_ |
teher eyo ugo |
| 02:18 |
LandMine_ |
http://www.minecraftinstall.net/ |
| 02:18 |
Kacey |
k ill download later |
| 02:20 |
Kacey |
wow unresponsiveness |
| 02:23 |
Octupus |
i used mineshfater |
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Octupus |
Hi LandMine,did u disconnect |
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LandMine |
yeah |
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OldCoder |
11:30pm I fell asleep after all and I have woken up somewhat early. The day before I should have. |
| 07:31 |
OldCoder |
anunakki, are you there? |
| 07:31 |
anunakki |
yes |
| 07:32 |
OldCoder |
anunakki, I am pleased to see you. May we speak more often; perhaps at least once a week? |
| 07:32 |
OldCoder |
It depends on your schedule of course |
| 07:32 |
anunakki |
yes, that sounds reasonable to me |
| 07:32 |
OldCoder |
But I wish to keep my promise related to the BSD distro |
| 07:32 |
OldCoder |
And to see if I may be useful |
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| 07:42 |
anunakki |
yea man, i've beenw orking on quite a bit |
| 07:42 |
anunakki |
i just started up a project with a few buddies |
| 07:42 |
anunakki |
going well |
| 07:42 |
anunakki |
i'd like to port over some minetest stuff over there and get them into it a bit more |
| 07:42 |
anunakki |
people dislike any kindo f minecraft game at first glance because they think its gonna cost them $30 |
| 07:42 |
anunakki |
like minecraft |
| 07:42 |
anunakki |
lol |
| 07:45 |
OldCoder |
anunakki, MT is not $30 |
| 07:45 |
anunakki |
i know |
| 07:45 |
OldCoder |
anunakki, MT is less expensive and therefore desirable |
| 07:45 |
anunakki |
i explain its free open source |
| 07:45 |
OldCoder |
And? |
| 07:46 |
anunakki |
i just need to recruit them my own way, because they'll come around |
| 07:46 |
anunakki |
they just think its probably going to be boring |
| 07:46 |
anunakki |
and i've been thinking about making my own mod |
| 07:46 |
anunakki |
for something like 4walls in minecraft |
| 07:46 |
anunakki |
where users can like 'battle' eachother |
| 07:47 |
OldCoder |
Sure |
| 07:47 |
OldCoder |
It is not boring; especially when you take the community into account |
| 07:48 |
anunakki |
yea i agree |
| 07:53 |
OldCoder |
U.S. worlds are going down for backups |
| 07:56 |
anunakki |
my only problem with this |
| 07:56 |
anunakki |
is i'm new to modifying this code |
| 07:57 |
anunakki |
so i dont even know where to start |
| 07:57 |
anunakki |
but i'm figuring it out |
| 07:59 |
OldCoder |
What type of code? |
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OldCoder |
$P default minetest 30000 |
| 08:10 |
OldCoder |
$P alttuxworld tuxworld 30001 |
| 08:10 |
OldCoder |
$P skyblock same 30002 |
| 08:10 |
OldCoder |
Server start code is getting quite simple |
| 08:10 |
OldCoder |
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RealBadAngel |
hi Taoki, whats up? |
| 09:45 |
Taoki |
hi |
| 09:46 |
Taoki |
not much. Got a new wireless keyboard and mouse and setting them up |
| 09:47 |
RealBadAngel |
ive made textures for jin_xi's tertis machine |
| 09:47 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/t_machine.png |
| 09:50 |
Calinou |
Taoki: lol seriously... |
| 09:50 |
Calinou |
wireless mice and keyboards are stupid |
| 09:50 |
Calinou |
we have X server latency already |
| 09:50 |
Calinou |
don't set up more latency by using wireless mouse/keyboard |
| 09:50 |
Taoki |
I likr them :) |
| 09:50 |
Calinou |
RealBadAngel: nice debian rusty you have there :P |
| 09:50 |
Taoki |
haha nice screenshot |
| 09:51 |
* Taoki |
doesn't understand why thy dont work through the same nano-receiver as my headphones |
| 09:51 |
Calinou |
HD textures in a 16px world, looks weird |
| 09:51 |
RealBadAngel |
hehehe |
| 09:51 |
Calinou |
also yeah, have fun setting them up on linux |
| 09:51 |
Calinou |
bloatsuse won't be any better than ubuntu for that |
| 09:51 |
Taoki |
actually they work out of the box nicely |
| 09:51 |
Calinou |
8D |
| 09:51 |
Calinou |
yeah, non-free firmware ftw |
| 09:52 |
Calinou |
now install the official debian iso |
| 09:52 |
RealBadAngel |
Calinou, regarding the textures for PilzAdam's farming, theyre not just copies from minecraft |
| 09:52 |
Calinou |
they are |
| 09:52 |
Calinou |
http://assets.minecraft.net/1_4_2/minecraft.jar |
| 09:52 |
Calinou |
check by yourself |
| 09:52 |
Calinou |
open it, open terrain.png |
| 09:52 |
RealBadAngel |
a) base were taken from abandoned texture pack |
| 09:52 |
Calinou |
you'll see the 8 wheat stages |
| 09:52 |
Calinou |
abandoned texture pack is illegal too then |
| 09:52 |
RealBadAngel |
b) were reworked |
| 09:52 |
Calinou |
thanks for info |
| 09:52 |
Calinou |
"reworked" > still based on MC textures |
| 09:52 |
RealBadAngel |
based, yes |
| 09:53 |
RealBadAngel |
but theyre not the same |
| 09:54 |
RealBadAngel |
anyway i will redo them from scratch |
| 09:54 |
RealBadAngel |
just wanted to explain |
| 09:54 |
Calinou |
you're not allowed to distribute modified or unmodified copies of minecraft code or ar |
| 09:54 |
Calinou |
art* |
| 09:55 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.planetminecraft.com/texture_pack/hobbss-space-adventure-pack-wip/ |
| 09:55 |
Taoki |
Yeah... non-free software FTW :P |
| 09:55 |
RealBadAngel |
i took them from here |
| 09:55 |
Taoki |
Though eh, mc is nice and its understandable |
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RealBadAngel |
i thought if its abandoned its safe to take it |
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Calinou |
mc is slow, and is for "story fanboys", cheaters |
| 09:56 |
Calinou |
RealBadAngel: it is not |
| 09:56 |
Calinou |
not sure if you can use something? don't use it |
| 09:56 |
RealBadAngel |
but if it can raise questions or problems i will redo them just |
| 09:57 |
Calinou |
redo wheat textures from scratch, or use wheat textures under a free license |
| 09:57 |
RealBadAngel |
yeah |
| 09:57 |
Calinou |
very few mc packs are under a free license since the vast majority of the texture pack authors are ignorant |
| 09:57 |
Calinou |
(cc by-nc-nd does not apply here) |
| 09:59 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.curse.com/texture-packs/minecraft/repeticraft |
| 09:59 |
Calinou |
yey curse.com |
| 09:59 |
RealBadAngel |
this one has wtfpl |
| 09:59 |
Calinou |
yey ad |
| 09:59 |
Calinou |
ads* |
| 09:59 |
Calinou |
lol seriously... |
| 09:59 |
Calinou |
anyway, it's not like it's of professional quality |
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OldCoder |
Calinou, RealBadAngel Hi |
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Calinou |
trees look like dirt |
| 10:00 |
RealBadAngel |
heheh, indeed, shitty as hell |
| 10:00 |
RealBadAngel |
hi OldCoder |
| 10:01 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, Have you discussed stairsplus changes with Calinou? |
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whirm |
close |
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OldCoder |
? |
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OldCoder |
Oh |
| 10:02 |
RealBadAngel |
some time ago, he has a different point of view :) |
| 10:02 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
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OldCoder |
So the version I'm using will remain a fork for now |
| 10:03 |
RealBadAngel |
im close to finish my version of Creative, so we will look how both versions behave for it |
| 10:05 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, let me know when to update RBAHaven |
| 10:05 |
RealBadAngel |
Calinou, and that was one and only TP i could find under wtfpl :) |
| 10:05 |
Calinou |
yey, something stallman-ish just happened to me |
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Calinou |
RealBadAngel: what stairs+ changes? when did you ask? |
| 10:06 |
Calinou |
was it about moddability? |
| 10:06 |
RealBadAngel |
it was about registering from outside |
| 10:06 |
RealBadAngel |
with ":" |
| 10:06 |
RealBadAngel |
so all the stairs etc will remain with "stairsplus" names for them |
| 10:09 |
RealBadAngel |
this way makes some order in creative |
| 10:09 |
RealBadAngel |
all the stairs are in one place |
| 10:14 |
Calinou |
would break compatibility with previous versions unless I add ~300 aliases |
| 10:14 |
Calinou |
i guess |
| 10:15 |
RealBadAngel |
why? |
| 10:15 |
RealBadAngel |
that changes nothin |
| 10:15 |
RealBadAngel |
it just allows other mods to register own stairs |
| 10:16 |
RealBadAngel |
it doesnt change your namespace |
| 10:18 |
Calinou |
i'll try then |
| 10:18 |
Calinou |
you can do it already i think |
| 10:18 |
Calinou |
just add : to modname |
| 10:18 |
Calinou |
stairsplus becomes :stairsplus |
| 10:19 |
RealBadAngel |
i did, such version works on all OldCoder's servers |
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RealBadAngel |
since a month or something like that |
| 10:20 |
RealBadAngel |
so its tested well enough i think :) |
| 10:21 |
OldCoder |
Indeed |
| 10:21 |
OldCoder |
So there may be a merge after all. This is good. |
| 10:21 |
RealBadAngel |
Calinou, and other your mods have no problems with it :) |
| 10:22 |
RealBadAngel |
by now Technic and Snow mod uses this way, so we do have marble, granite, obisdian and ice stairs, slabs, etc |
| 10:23 |
RealBadAngel |
and all is registered with "stairsplus:" domain |
| 10:25 |
RealBadAngel |
so when i will select filtering by modname in Creative, i can have all stairsplus stuff |
| 10:26 |
RealBadAngel |
when i choose "technic" or "snow" mod i wont be seeing extra stairs |
| 10:27 |
RealBadAngel |
i think about adding hardcoded filters (maybe a list with names) for commonly used mods |
| 10:27 |
OldCoder |
Not bad |
| 10:28 |
RealBadAngel |
so user can just click on modname to select its items set |
| 10:29 |
RealBadAngel |
by now, when i do have 55 pages in creative, and technic at the very end |
| 10:29 |
OldCoder |
On errand. Back in a few minuntes. Yes. |
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RealBadAngel |
its the pain in the ass to get there |
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OldCoder |
*minutes |
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Octupus |
Hola |
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OldCoder |
Que tal |
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Octupus |
Nada |
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OldCoder |
Very well |
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ruskie |
*yawn* |
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ruskie |
I hate mondays |
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Octupus |
:) |
| 13:06 |
ruskie |
come into work... router doesn't bootup... scramble to setup a backup one and then spend most of the day trying to sort out some of the more presing business critical things so that people can work more or less normally with it |
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ruskie |
less than an hour and off to home |
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RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/arcade_machine.png |
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ruskie |
hehe |
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RealBadAngel |
a few changes to the code so it will be deployable by placing one block and it will be fully functional |
| 13:14 |
RealBadAngel |
fixed already crashes in the jin_xi's code |
| 13:14 |
RealBadAngel |
and one can actually play tetris on the machine :) |
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RealBadAngel |
need to make it compatible with multiplayer |
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ruskie |
what's the status of technice MV tools? |
| 13:16 |
RealBadAngel |
need to work some more on tubes before they will be released |
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RealBadAngel |
propably today |
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RealBadAngel |
worst case tommorow |
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Octupus |
Hi kitty |
| 13:31 |
NekoGloop |
... |
| 13:36 |
RealBadAngel |
https://github.com/obneq/tetris |
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NekoGloop |
Good for you. |
| 13:37 |
RealBadAngel |
uploaded there textures for machine and fixed crash when dropping the tile |
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NekoGloop |
Now make a mesecons version. |
| 13:38 |
RealBadAngel |
first it has to be made deployable |
| 13:38 |
RealBadAngel |
and multiplayer aware |
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RealBadAngel |
i will do that when i got back later today |
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Octupus |
i might becme an admin on a MC serer :) |
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NekoGloop |
Dont care. There's #minecraft for that. Go away. |
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OldCoder |
NekoGloop, Hey |
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OldCoder |
Hope your day is starting well |
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RBA_afk |
bbl |
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Octupus |
hi babyface1031_ |
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babyface1031_ |
hi Octupus |
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OdnetninI |
OdlCoder, I can't connect to any of your servers |
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babyface1031_ |
i belive he is backing up |
| 14:17 |
OdnetninI |
mmmm |
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babyface1031_ |
atleast 30004 |
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OldCoder |
babyface1031_, OdnetninI yes |
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OldCoder |
The data must be safe |
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OldCoder |
The worlds are back up |
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OldCoder |
Try them out please |
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OldCoder |
Harbor is new and interesting |
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OldCoder |
I'd like remarks regarding nonfunctioning doors |
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Octupus |
all my shit designer |
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Octupus |
hi babyface1031 |
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babyface1031 |
hi Octupus |
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OdnetninI |
when connecting to a server |
| 14:49 |
OdnetninI |
JPEG FATAL ERROR: Wrong JPEG library version: library is 80, caller expects 62 |
| 14:49 |
ruskie |
yeah |
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ruskie |
it want's version 6.2 while you have 8 |
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OdnetninI |
how i can deupdate? |
| 14:51 |
OdnetninI |
how can i solve |
| 14:51 |
OdnetninI |
? |
| 14:52 |
OdnetninI |
sudo apt-get install libjpeg62-dev |
| 14:53 |
OdnetninI |
? |
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OdnetninI |
Are anyone here? |
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OldCoder |
cosarara97, Hi |
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Octupus |
Hello |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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OldCoder |
PilzAdam, hello |
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Octupus |
Hi PilzAdam |
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ruskie |
hmm I wonder who went through my place on europe |
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ruskie |
left all the doors open |
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ruskie |
http://codemages.net/screenshot_4114731034.png <-- my latest tower from far away |
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ruskie |
http://codemages.net/screenshot_4114972618.png <-- and at night |
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RBA_afk |
hi PilzAdam |
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OdnetninI |
http://pastebin.com/57BzHx3b |
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OdnetninI |
error |
| 15:45 |
OdnetninI |
the close me the window |
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Jordach |
thexyz, VanessaE, sfan5 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=51972#p51972 should we lock this? |
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OdnetninI |
please help me |
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sfan5 |
Jordach: yes |
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PilzAdam |
OdnetninI, it has to do with the sound |
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thexyz |
better to delete it |
| 15:48 |
thexyz |
and bad `sky` forever |
| 15:48 |
sfan5 |
*ban |
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thexyz |
yep |
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Jordach |
"Mesa DRI ProSavageDDR x86/MMX/SSE2: S3 Graphics Inc." - i think your opengl is the problem |
| 15:49 |
sfan5 |
OdnetninI: "GLSL not available." install a graphics driver |
| 15:49 |
Jordach |
i had opengl 1.2 before, was nasty |
| 15:49 |
OdnetninI |
I'm trying to connect to a OldCoder server |
| 15:49 |
Jordach |
OdnetninI - try a different driver |
| 15:49 |
Jordach |
(like the binary nvidia) |
| 15:50 |
OdnetninI |
how can i instal GLSL? |
| 15:50 |
Jordach |
OdnetninI - GLSL is a driver thing, OpenGL 2.x+ is GLSL, GLSL == shaders |
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FreeFull |
My old laptop didn't do GLSL |
| 15:50 |
FreeFull |
No shaders |
| 15:51 |
FreeFull |
My desktop barely does GLSL |
| 15:51 |
FreeFull |
If it's shader version was any lower, it wouldn't |
| 15:52 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, should we make the steelblock drop 9 steel ingots as suggested here? https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/35 |
| 15:53 |
FreeFull |
Rather than drop, I think it should give you 9 ingots when put into a crafting slot |
| 15:53 |
thexyz |
I'd prefer https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/23 |
| 15:53 |
thexyz |
but it's already closed |
| 15:53 |
PilzAdam |
this doesnt make sense |
| 15:53 |
thexyz |
that one you posted doesn't make any sense either |
| 15:53 |
PilzAdam |
drop the ingots like brick drops clay bricks |
| 15:53 |
FreeFull |
So you can make a steel block by hand but you can't split it back up again? |
| 15:54 |
thexyz |
then why don't trees drop sticks? |
| 15:54 |
RealBadAngel |
any other metal blocks are reverted with crafting |
| 15:54 |
RealBadAngel |
makin it breaks doesnt make sense imho |
| 15:54 |
PilzAdam |
why do bricks drop the clay bricks only when digged? |
| 15:54 |
RealBadAngel |
that is also annoying |
| 15:55 |
PilzAdam |
it would be too easy to store iron ingots |
| 15:55 |
Taoki |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pulls Can't help noticing there are 20 pull requests here. I hope someone will take a look at it soon |
| 15:55 |
RealBadAngel |
crafting is damn slow, and you have to craft them back |
| 15:55 |
FreeFull |
^ |
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PilzAdam |
it should cost something |
| 15:56 |
PilzAdam |
e.g. tool wear when you have to dig it |
| 15:56 |
Jordach |
no, they should drop the brick block |
| 15:56 |
thexyz |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/285 |
| 15:56 |
Taoki |
Also: Anyone know what the proress is on a fully textured GUI? Is it possible from lua yet? Both the inventory menu, all other menus (chest, furnace, etc) and item hotbar which is part of the HUD |
| 15:56 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 15:57 |
PilzAdam |
Taoki, RealBadAngel is working on it |
| 15:57 |
Taoki |
thexyz: Yeah, you ported that code some time back and I put it on GIT :) But it never got merged |
| 15:57 |
Taoki |
awesome |
| 15:57 |
RealBadAngel |
Taoki i will add some new features to it first |
| 15:57 |
thexyz |
Taoki: but item hotbar can't be changed via lua |
| 15:57 |
thexyz |
or via formspec, or whatever |
| 15:57 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel, PilzAdam: Also: I just updated the attachments code, and fixed some more bugs. I also renamed the lua functions. Change the carts to use set_attach and set_detach |
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* VanessaE |
peeks in |
| 15:57 |
VanessaE |
hi. |
| 15:57 |
RealBadAngel |
i can make it customizable too if some1 wants to |
| 15:58 |
RealBadAngel |
i mean the hotbar |
| 15:58 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, either we make steel block drop steel ingots or make brick block drop birck block and get craftet into clay bricks |
| 15:58 |
Octupus |
Hi VanessaE |
| 15:58 |
Taoki |
thexyz: I see. Not a good thing... I was hoping the hotbar and any hud item apart from wield item and debug info text (and chat) could be moved to lua |
| 15:58 |
Taoki |
so scripts could define hud definitions. I would personally prefer that |
| 15:58 |
VanessaE |
make brick blocks drop brick blocks, craft back into clay bricks if so desired. |
| 15:58 |
VanessaE |
imho. |
| 15:58 |
RealBadAngel |
easy solution, hud could use default images |
| 15:59 |
RealBadAngel |
then just replace them |
| 15:59 |
Taoki |
yeah, but the hud isn't customizable via lua. Which doesn't allow for some mods |
| 15:59 |
* Taoki |
also hopes that sometime health gets moved to lua, since there might be mods that don't need it at all, or want to implement it differently |
| 15:59 |
RealBadAngel |
will be customizable via replacing textures |
| 15:59 |
RealBadAngel |
like texture pack does |
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Taoki |
RealBadAngel: Yes. But you can't create your own items to draw |
| 16:00 |
RealBadAngel |
i can |
| 16:00 |
RealBadAngel |
im already doin it in formspec |
| 16:00 |
Taoki |
ah, so the lua api allows custom hud items? |
| 16:00 |
Taoki |
like eg: a minimap |
| 16:00 |
Taoki |
so it can tell clients to draw something in a corder of the screen |
| 16:00 |
RealBadAngel |
hmmmm, that could be possible, i can add a hook for minimap |
| 16:01 |
iqualfragile |
no |
| 16:01 |
iqualfragile |
nonono |
| 16:01 |
Taoki |
ok |
| 16:01 |
iqualfragile |
dont let mods access the gui |
| 16:01 |
iqualfragile |
thats a quite bad idea |
| 16:01 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel: Don't add a hook for minimap though. Add a hook for allowing the api to draw things on the screen, whatever they are |
| 16:01 |
iqualfragile |
*thats quite a bad idea |
| 16:01 |
Taoki |
So anyone can use it for anything, not specifically minimap |
| 16:01 |
Taoki |
Don't see why |
| 16:01 |
iqualfragile |
it will just lead to cluttering (i hope that is what its called) |
| 16:02 |
Taoki |
But more possibilities |
| 16:02 |
iqualfragile |
in the end there will be alot of widget everywhere on the screen |
| 16:02 |
iqualfragile |
like: money, minimap, hp, armor, mp, time |
| 16:02 |
PilzAdam |
i have to agree to iqualfragile |
| 16:02 |
Taoki |
If someone makes a mod that adds that, and the server owner accepts such mods, sure |
| 16:02 |
iqualfragile |
number of players |
| 16:02 |
RealBadAngel |
not specific for minimap tho, i mean user defined function to be called when drawing HUD |
| 16:02 |
iqualfragile |
names of players |
| 16:03 |
Taoki |
If a mod clutters the screen just don't add it |
| 16:03 |
RealBadAngel |
so modder can add to HUD anythin |
| 16:03 |
iqualfragile |
but think about money |
| 16:03 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel: Yes, that's what I mean |
| 16:03 |
iqualfragile |
the money-mod might be a great thing |
| 16:03 |
PilzAdam |
if a mod looks nice on 1900x1080 and a server uses it it may look ugly on 800x600 |
| 16:03 |
RealBadAngel |
even replace defaults |
| 16:03 |
Taoki |
iqualfragile: If modders will make a mod that clutters the hud, it's a bad mod itself. It doesn't mean we shouldn't allow lua to draw to the hud. But bad mods should be corrected that's all |
| 16:03 |
iqualfragile |
but if the guy making money thinks its a great idea to display my balance in screen |
| 16:04 |
RealBadAngel |
up to modder to look somethin reasonable and good lookin then |
| 16:04 |
iqualfragile |
i would need to customise it |
| 16:04 |
RealBadAngel |
*to make |
| 16:04 |
iqualfragile |
additionaly: you will run into great problems with different resolutions |
| 16:04 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: Textures being rescaled based on resolution is done in any game that has some hud. Normally you just define a size, and the drawing iss scaled to be the same size on any resolution |
| 16:04 |
RealBadAngel |
so the function that will be called when defined |
| 16:04 |
Taoki |
If the image looks bad at a specific resolution,. that is again the mod's fault and not the code for allowing the feature |
| 16:04 |
iqualfragile |
and when two mods try to draw into the same area you are fucked |
| 16:05 |
babyface1031 |
what does a deployer do besides make constrictors |
| 16:05 |
RealBadAngel |
if returns 1, then lets draw rest of the hud |
| 16:05 |
Taoki |
iqualfragile: True. The mods need to correct that and be fixed to get along |
| 16:05 |
iqualfragile |
but there will be lots of mods |
| 16:05 |
RealBadAngel |
if returns 0, then nothin of default hud is drawn |
| 16:05 |
iqualfragile |
you cant coordinate them all |
| 16:05 |
RealBadAngel |
you wont be installin 10 hud mods at the time, will you? |
| 16:06 |
iqualfragile |
well… yes i guess that could happen |
| 16:06 |
Taoki |
iqualfragile: Again, the modders have to decide what and how to use |
| 16:06 |
PilzAdam |
but 10 mods will use it even if they do something that doesnt require HUD |
| 16:06 |
iqualfragile |
but lets just take two simple mods: |
| 16:06 |
iqualfragile |
experience |
| 16:06 |
iqualfragile |
and armor |
| 16:06 |
iqualfragile |
and drowning (yeah, 3) |
| 16:06 |
RealBadAngel |
we are talkin bout modding abilities |
| 16:06 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: Then those mods are bad and shouldn't be on the server. If they are, then the server is bad :P |
| 16:07 |
iqualfragile |
all those mods will try to draw over the health-bar |
| 16:07 |
RealBadAngel |
not bout this what a stupid modder or user can do to fuck up the game |
| 16:07 |
Taoki |
^ |
| 16:07 |
PilzAdam |
mods should generally be compatible with each other |
| 16:07 |
iqualfragile |
they cant leave spaces for the other mods because it would look strange without them |
| 16:07 |
RealBadAngel |
PlizAdam thats not true |
| 16:07 |
iqualfragile |
they cant use the same ponit over and over again |
| 16:07 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: Whenever possiblle yes |
| 16:08 |
iqualfragile |
and they cant create x versions just to be compatible with any possible configuration |
| 16:08 |
iqualfragile |
do you get my point? |
| 16:08 |
PilzAdam |
you currently cant find 2 mods that are incompatible (except 2 of mine ;-)) |
| 16:08 |
RealBadAngel |
mods doing the same thing in a different way are from definition incopatoble |
| 16:08 |
RealBadAngel |
user have to choose one that fits him |
| 16:08 |
iqualfragile |
but experience, armor and drowning are three different things |
| 16:09 |
iqualfragile |
i want to use them in paralel |
| 16:09 |
RealBadAngel |
im makin Creative mod, kinda TMI or NEI from minecraft |
| 16:09 |
Jordach |
VanessaE - im experimenting with the default textures at 64x |
| 16:09 |
Taoki |
Overall, I'm never of the belief that modding abilities should be restricted cuz if you add them modders will use them to make crap. Some devs think like that, but I think that's a bad thinking. If someone uses them badly, then their mod is bad, and they need to learn not to |
| 16:09 |
RealBadAngel |
it will be incompatible with many other ones |
| 16:09 |
iqualfragile |
but they will try to use the same point of the screen |
| 16:09 |
VanessaE |
have fun with 'em :-) |
| 16:09 |
PilzAdam |
the only thing that modders have to care is the naming; if you add the HUD they also have to care about the position on the HUD |
| 16:09 |
Taoki |
But features that allow more things are always very good |
| 16:10 |
iqualfragile |
taoki: did you even listen? |
| 16:10 |
iqualfragile |
all those mods could be great |
| 16:10 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: only if the mod adds something to the hud. 99% of them won't |
| 16:10 |
iqualfragile |
but they cant share the same fricking space on screen |
| 16:10 |
Taoki |
Maybe just a minimap mod or something |
| 16:10 |
PilzAdam |
Taoki, you dont know that |
| 16:10 |
iqualfragile |
they will |
| 16:10 |
RealBadAngel |
forcing mods compability at cost of possibilities is worst idea even |
| 16:10 |
iqualfragile |
everybody will try to add stuff to the hud because its so fancy |
| 16:10 |
Taoki |
But it's good to have a feature there. As maybe someone makes their own mod pack and figures some good idea that they know will be compatible |
| 16:11 |
iqualfragile |
i can see pilzadam thinking about the posibilty to add hunger right now |
| 16:11 |
Taoki |
iqualfragile: No, they won't HAVE to |
| 16:11 |
RealBadAngel |
nobody tell you to install bunch of fancy mods |
| 16:11 |
RealBadAngel |
mods are options |
| 16:11 |
PilzAdam |
iqualfragile, ... what? |
| 16:11 |
RealBadAngel |
to choose |
| 16:11 |
Taoki |
That's exactly what I was saying. If someone will add things to the hud because it's fancy (and has no use), they are doing bad mods. It's their own fault |
| 16:11 |
iqualfragile |
and rba might want to show the power-level of his tools to the user |
| 16:11 |
sfan5 |
idea: let the user decide if they want custom hud items from mods |
| 16:11 |
iqualfragile |
or whatever |
| 16:12 |
iqualfragile |
another technical problem: |
| 16:12 |
RealBadAngel |
modder chooses to what to do |
| 16:12 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, so add a boolean to minetest.conf? |
| 16:12 |
RealBadAngel |
user chooses to use the mod or not |
| 16:12 |
Taoki |
iqualfragile: Sure, maybe they'll do that. If it conflicts with another mod then they and / or the creator of the other mod have to fix them. It doesn't mean the feature itself is bad |
| 16:12 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: yeah |
| 16:12 |
iqualfragile |
it will take alot of bandwidth to syncronize the drawing |
| 16:12 |
Taoki |
What RBA said |
| 16:12 |
sfan5 |
and a fancy checkbox ;) |
| 16:12 |
iqualfragile |
taoki |
| 16:12 |
iqualfragile |
ok, again: |
| 16:12 |
Taoki |
iqualfragile: Not a lot. Just send the info once as it changes |
| 16:13 |
iqualfragile |
but minimaps change a lot |
| 16:13 |
RealBadAngel |
and thats GOOOD |
| 16:13 |
iqualfragile |
and the oxygen-meter too |
| 16:13 |
Taoki |
true, that would send some bandwidth |
| 16:13 |
Taoki |
Maybe one packet a second |
| 16:13 |
RealBadAngel |
hey hey |
| 16:13 |
RealBadAngel |
what for? |
| 16:13 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, and what if a mod depends on the GUI and if you disable it you wont see anything? |
| 16:13 |
RealBadAngel |
stop bitte |
| 16:13 |
RealBadAngel |
we do have Client Side LUA |
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iqualfragile |
we do? |
| 16:14 |
RealBadAngel |
of course |
| 16:14 |
iqualfragile |
im not aware of that |
| 16:14 |
PilzAdam |
not upstream |
| 16:14 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: .... what about per-mod settings? |
| 16:14 |
RealBadAngel |
youre not readin the forums |
| 16:14 |
iqualfragile |
and it would be a freaking great security risc |
| 16:14 |
RealBadAngel |
its in the game :) |
| 16:14 |
iqualfragile |
so im definitly against adding it |
| 16:14 |
RealBadAngel |
Jeija provided workin proof of concept |
| 16:14 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, this would imply that modders would care about other mods |
| 16:14 |
iqualfragile |
great |
| 16:15 |
iqualfragile |
you know what i will do when that gets merged into default? |
| 16:15 |
iqualfragile |
im gona write a mod |
| 16:15 |
iqualfragile |
just some litle fancy mod |
| 16:15 |
iqualfragile |
with some cool feature |
| 16:15 |
sfan5 |
Taoki: about the bandwith... there could be a function that runs client side until the next packet arrives |
| 16:15 |
RealBadAngel |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3533 |
| 16:15 |
iqualfragile |
that mod will then contain some clientside lua |
| 16:15 |
RealBadAngel |
minimap could be made only client side |
| 16:15 |
Taoki |
I don't think the lua api allows anything client-side right now |
| 16:16 |
iqualfragile |
wich will just call rm -rf / |
| 16:16 |
iqualfragile |
and everybody using it will be dead |
| 16:16 |
iqualfragile |
or any malicious server-admin could do the same |
| 16:16 |
sfan5 |
you get into water -> server sends oxygen meter with function() oxygen-meter.value= oxygen-meter.value-1 end |
| 16:16 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, this will create the ability to cheat alot |
| 16:16 |
sfan5 |
you get out of the water -> server sends packet that hides oxygen meter |
| 16:16 |
PilzAdam |
clients can execute their code and the server cant control it |
| 16:16 |
RealBadAngel |
PilzAdam, i dont think so |
| 16:17 |
sfan5 |
cheating? how? |
| 16:17 |
iqualfragile |
pilzadam: yeah, but thats possible now, too |
| 16:17 |
PilzAdam |
will the code for the client API be in the server or the client? |
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| 16:18 |
iqualfragile |
client |
| 16:18 |
PilzAdam |
so some clients will have the minimap and others not |
| 16:18 |
RealBadAngel |
so what? |
| 16:18 |
RealBadAngel |
thats normal and logical |
| 16:18 |
RealBadAngel |
you want minimap? install mod then |
| 16:19 |
RealBadAngel |
you dont like it for some reason, just dont use it |
| 16:19 |
PilzAdam |
so clients can use mods like looking through walls etc. |
| 16:19 |
iqualfragile |
additionaly minetest has one great problem: |
| 16:19 |
iqualfragile |
while we do have some great coders and mods on here they dont fit together very well, each mod has its own look, there are at least 3 mods wich add diamonds, 3 mods wich fix doors, 3 mods wich extend signs |
| 16:19 |
PilzAdam |
that is cheating |
| 16:19 |
iqualfragile |
there is no uniformity in it |
| 16:19 |
Octupus |
what are we talking about? |
| 16:19 |
RealBadAngel |
and there never will be |
| 16:19 |
PilzAdam |
Octupus, read the log |
| 16:20 |
Octupus |
O 3d |
| 16:20 |
iqualfragile |
octupus: some guys think its a good idea to let mods draw in the hud |
| 16:20 |
RealBadAngel |
forcing all mods to be compatible is against the laws of modding at all |
| 16:20 |
iqualfragile |
pizadam and i dont think so |
| 16:20 |
Octupus |
O |
| 16:20 |
iqualfragile |
rba: you are right but it would be great to see some more integration between them |
| 16:20 |
RealBadAngel |
1st of all, you dont have to use ALL the mods aviable |
| 16:21 |
PilzAdam |
iqualfragile, actually we started to discuss whether steel blocks should drop or be crafted into steel ingots... |
| 16:21 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: client mods should only execute if the client is in singleplayer |
| 16:21 |
sfan5 |
+be |
| 16:21 |
FreeFull |
Adding to the hud is fine as long as you add in a good interface |
| 16:21 |
RealBadAngel |
youre supposed to choose ones that fits you |
| 16:21 |
FreeFull |
So the mod says "I want to put in a bar in the hud that is that long and that tall" |
| 16:21 |
iqualfragile |
its important for a good game |
| 16:21 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: Anyway. Please update yout GIT for the carts if you haven't, RBA and me fixed the player size bug yesterday. You need to use new function names for my latest attachment code like I said. But I'm curious if the carts work well now, great mod :) |
| 16:21 |
iqualfragile |
not just the technical possibilties |
| 16:21 |
FreeFull |
And then minetest says "right, I'll put it here" |
| 16:21 |
iqualfragile |
but the ambience |
| 16:21 |
PilzAdam |
Taoki, wait |
| 16:21 |
iqualfragile |
minetest has a lot of technical possibilties and features |
| 16:22 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: Cart visual_size needs to be 2 x 2 apparently. No idea why, but it needs that |
| 16:22 |
iqualfragile |
there are great mods out there, like mesecons and technic |
| 16:22 |
Taoki |
I need to go now, be back in 1-2 hours or so |
| 16:22 |
PilzAdam |
Taoki, can you provide a patch? |
| 16:22 |
RealBadAngel |
iqualfragile, but tellinin the modders that some tools cannot be done because another modder may have an idea to make similar thing is just nonsense |
| 16:22 |
iqualfragile |
but they are… |
| 16:22 |
Taoki |
PilzAdam: RBA did the code, I only tested it with him. But at the last attempt, it worked |
| 16:23 |
Taoki |
Ask him please |
| 16:23 |
PilzAdam |
k |
| 16:23 |
Taoki |
I just connected to his server to test |
| 16:23 |
Taoki |
later |
| 16:23 |
sfan5 |
the server sends packets that contain the hud elements and functions that should minimize the packets sent (e.g. count air meter down) |
| 16:23 |
RealBadAngel |
server is up all the time |
| 16:23 |
iqualfragile |
rba: lets take an example: gloopores |
| 16:23 |
sfan5 |
that would prevent cheating with client side mods, but still allow hud sent from server |
| 16:23 |
iqualfragile |
nobody needs gloopores |
| 16:23 |
iqualfragile |
but they are there |
| 16:23 |
RealBadAngel |
i do need |
| 16:23 |
RealBadAngel |
for magic branch of technic mod |
| 16:24 |
iqualfragile |
well, i think they would in fact be good |
| 16:24 |
iqualfragile |
if |
| 16:24 |
RealBadAngel |
T_A_N_K will be creating this |
| 16:24 |
iqualfragile |
he would remove half of them |
| 16:24 |
* ruskie |
likes them for kalite torches |
| 16:24 |
iqualfragile |
and only leave the ones wich are unique |
| 16:24 |
iqualfragile |
like the healing-things |
| 16:24 |
RealBadAngel |
they are fantasy like |
| 16:24 |
iqualfragile |
or the ores-in-sandstone |
| 16:24 |
RealBadAngel |
and will be used for magical stuff |
| 16:25 |
iqualfragile |
then he should split the mod |
| 16:25 |
iqualfragile |
and you should too: |
| 16:25 |
iqualfragile |
the machines |
| 16:25 |
iqualfragile |
and the chests |
| 16:25 |
iqualfragile |
and the items |
| 16:25 |
iqualfragile |
and the magic |
| 16:25 |
iqualfragile |
into seperate mods |
| 16:25 |
RealBadAngel |
i do have somwhere plan that tank made |
| 16:25 |
iqualfragile |
and then release them as a modpack |
| 16:25 |
iqualfragile |
but seperate them |
| 16:26 |
RealBadAngel |
im about to go modpack way |
| 16:26 |
RealBadAngel |
technic gets too big |
| 16:26 |
RealBadAngel |
i need to make it more customizable and better organized |
| 16:26 |
iqualfragile |
great! |
| 16:26 |
PilzAdam |
i generally see a problem when developing mods: many mods are over developed |
| 16:27 |
iqualfragile |
i aree with you |
| 16:27 |
PilzAdam |
there are too many features |
| 16:27 |
RealBadAngel |
sometimes even i do not know where specific part of code is |
| 16:27 |
iqualfragile |
but yours are an exeption |
| 16:27 |
iqualfragile |
they just fullfill their function |
| 16:27 |
PilzAdam |
i realy try to keep thinks simple |
| 16:27 |
RealBadAngel |
tried to keep them in separate files |
| 16:27 |
PilzAdam |
a good example for a over develped mod is my carts mod |
| 16:27 |
iqualfragile |
yep, you could see that when you split farming and farming-extra |
| 16:27 |
RealBadAngel |
but those separate files also started to be big |
| 16:28 |
RealBadAngel |
im thinkin on such way: worldgen section, wires section, machines, tools, items |
| 16:29 |
RealBadAngel |
all separate mods |
| 16:29 |
PilzAdam |
if i could say one thing to all modders: Keep things simple! |
| 16:29 |
iqualfragile |
rba: as i said, i would recommend you to split it into: |
| 16:29 |
iqualfragile |
the machines& tubes (deployer, destroyer, n‘stuff) |
| 16:29 |
iqualfragile |
the chests (the tubes should be compatible with any chest, even default) |
| 16:29 |
iqualfragile |
the "items" (drill, turner, n‘stuff) |
| 16:29 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: "keep things simple" and RealBadAngel don't quite fit into the same subject :D |
| 16:30 |
RealBadAngel |
hehehe |
| 16:30 |
PilzAdam |
btw: can we please make a decision about the steel block/brick question |
| 16:30 |
RealBadAngel |
i vote for crafting |
| 16:30 |
VanessaE |
Drop steel blocks and brick blocks, craft back into ingots and clay bricks, respectively, if so desired. |
| 16:31 |
VanessaE |
'nuff said. |
| 16:31 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
| 16:31 |
RealBadAngel |
2 for crafting |
| 16:31 |
PilzAdam |
any other votes? |
| 16:31 |
PilzAdam |
i vote for crafting, too |
| 16:31 |
RealBadAngel |
3:0 |
| 16:31 |
iqualfragile |
pilzadam: and if i could add something to that: |
| 16:31 |
iqualfragile |
1. when you do something, do it well, dont add 30 crops, add 3 but think about them verry carefully, how they integrate into the game |
| 16:31 |
iqualfragile |
2. integrate your mods into the default-game and other mods (similar textures, carts can use copper-tracks) |
| 16:31 |
iqualfragile |
crafting |
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RealBadAngel |
4:0 |
| 16:32 |
PilzAdam |
okay i will change it |
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| 16:32 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, can i push directly to upstream in this case? |
| 16:32 |
BUILDV3 |
is ghostshell on |
| 16:33 |
RealBadAngel |
btw |
| 16:33 |
PilzAdam |
BUILDV3, no |
| 16:33 |
BUILDV3 |
can ghostshell get on |
| 16:33 |
RealBadAngel |
have anybody thought to join moreores upstream? |
| 16:33 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel +100000000000 |
| 16:33 |
BUILDV3 |
cause i want build prevs on his server |
| 16:33 |
PilzAdam |
-1 |
| 16:33 |
VanessaE |
(and moreblocks too) |
| 16:33 |
PilzAdam |
the code is crap |
| 16:34 |
RealBadAngel |
so revamp it and join |
| 16:34 |
RealBadAngel |
its too common mod to be outside |
| 16:34 |
PilzAdam |
if people want it |
| 16:34 |
VanessaE |
so add it anyway and clean it up later> |
| 16:34 |
VanessaE |
no one who *uses* the mod really gives a shit if the code is crap |
| 16:34 |
PilzAdam |
I do |
| 16:34 |
VanessaE |
they care if it works right and doesn't suck CPU |
| 16:35 |
RealBadAngel |
everybody usin moreores |
| 16:35 |
PilzAdam |
but i dont use it |
| 16:35 |
RealBadAngel |
show me the server that doesnt use it, except for skyblock ones |
| 16:35 |
PilzAdam |
i actually dont like it |
| 16:35 |
iqualfragile |
well, i guess allmost everybody added moreores |
| 16:35 |
iqualfragile |
brb |
| 16:36 |
RealBadAngel |
moreores, moreblocks is just a-must-have |
| 16:36 |
VanessaE |
hell even redcrab's server uses them |
| 16:36 |
VanessaE |
and he's like the last guy to add anything to the server |
| 16:36 |
VanessaE |
moreores, moreblocks belong in upstream. |
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thexyz |
PilzAdam: yep |
| 16:36 |
PilzAdam |
what is the benefit of moreores? |
| 16:36 |
OldCoder |
Unique names are good for mods too |
| 16:36 |
VanessaE |
even rubenwardy would agree :-) |
| 16:37 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: bartering, extra tools, decoration |
| 16:37 |
VanessaE |
also homedecor uses it for a few items. |
| 16:37 |
VanessaE |
(like tin and copper, specifically) |
| 16:37 |
RealBadAngel |
im using them heavily |
| 16:37 |
rubenwardy |
moreblocks definitely, moreores not so sure |
| 16:37 |
RealBadAngel |
look at this from this point of view |
| 16:37 |
PilzAdam |
im not sure how much it should be integrated into default mod |
| 16:38 |
RealBadAngel |
minecraft had a problem with extra ores |
| 16:38 |
VanessaE |
just do it already |
| 16:38 |
VanessaE |
stop debating |
| 16:38 |
RealBadAngel |
so mods added copper, tin etc |
| 16:38 |
RealBadAngel |
it ended up with different kinds of copper and so on |
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| 16:38 |
RealBadAngel |
they went for ores library |
| 16:38 |
RealBadAngel |
the modders, not mojang |
| 16:39 |
RealBadAngel |
and unified it |
| 16:39 |
VanessaE |
he's right |
| 16:39 |
VanessaE |
same reason I added vessels, because we have dozens of mods that implement their own glass items which aren't cross-compatible. |
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| 16:39 |
BUILDV3 |
when is ghostshell on |
| 16:39 |
RealBadAngel |
lets do the same by adding ores to main |
| 16:39 |
sfan5 |
does minetest transfer all mod textures or just the ones specified in the mod files? |
| 16:39 |
sfan5 |
BUILDV3: we don't know |
| 16:39 |
VanessaE |
BUILDV3: practically never, better to ask on gameboom or on the minetest forums |
| 16:39 |
RealBadAngel |
so there the problem wont rise here |
| 16:40 |
RealBadAngel |
look how many mods we do have adding new ores and tools |
| 16:40 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: only those specified, from what I can tell |
| 16:40 |
RealBadAngel |
and then on the forums hey, my mod already adds bronze |
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| 16:40 |
VanessaE |
adding more mods lengthens the startup time even if the supportive texture pack already has those images |
| 16:40 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, talking about vessels, the textures are ugly |
| 16:40 |
RealBadAngel |
hi Jeija |
| 16:40 |
VanessaE |
he jeija |
| 16:41 |
OldCoder |
Jeija, hello |
| 16:41 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: how does it determite the textures in the mod file? |
| 16:41 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: I submitted better ones. c55 did not put them in. |
| 16:41 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: beats me, I assume it creates a list based on the tiles= and related lines |
| 16:41 |
Jeija |
Hi everyone |
| 16:41 |
RealBadAngel |
Jeija, how about the vertical mesecons? :) |
| 16:41 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, I can add them ;-) |
| 16:42 |
RealBadAngel |
Jeija, you could also add NOR gate |
| 16:42 |
Jeija |
Why not just take a NOT"-Gate"? |
| 16:42 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: https://github.com/VanessaE/minetest_game/tree/master/mods/vessels |
| 16:43 |
RealBadAngel |
we can use OR and NOT, but why cant we have NOR? :) |
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| 16:43 |
Jeija |
dunno, just because |
| 16:43 |
VanessaE |
who needs NOR when we have NAND anyway? :-)_ |
| 16:43 |
RealBadAngel |
hehehe |
| 16:43 |
RealBadAngel |
i can make the code for NOR, will you add it then? :) |
| 16:44 |
Jeija |
yup, RealBadAngel |
| 16:44 |
RealBadAngel |
so deal |
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| 16:45 |
RealBadAngel |
more folks came so i will post it again: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3698 |
| 16:46 |
RealBadAngel |
jin_xi made tetris and i made textures for arcade machine |
| 16:46 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, this channel is 100% ad-free ;-) |
| 16:46 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
| 16:46 |
RealBadAngel |
:) |
| 16:46 |
OldCoder |
"I use Sanka Brand Coffee and am not a real Doctor" |
| 16:48 |
RealBadAngel |
some1 rised a while ago problem with objects two nodes high |
| 16:48 |
RealBadAngel |
i think VanessaE with the fridge |
| 16:48 |
VanessaE |
there. |
| 16:48 |
RealBadAngel |
is it solved already or not? coz i dont remember |
| 16:48 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/36 |
| 16:48 |
RealBadAngel |
and i need it for arcade machine |
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| 16:49 |
RealBadAngel |
VanessaE, is it here? |
| 16:49 |
RealBadAngel |
in vessels? |
| 16:49 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: wait... |
| 16:50 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: ok, there. use that pull request. |
| 16:50 |
VanessaE |
fridge? huh? |
| 16:50 |
RealBadAngel |
VanessaE, from home decor |
| 16:51 |
RealBadAngel |
if node above is not air, dont allow to put the fridge |
| 16:51 |
VanessaE |
oh, you mean the texture glitching? thexyz mentioned that for his doors mod, but I have yet to see it happen to refrigerators. |
| 16:51 |
RealBadAngel |
remember? |
| 16:51 |
VanessaE |
yeah I fixed that |
| 16:51 |
VanessaE |
ages ago. |
| 16:51 |
PilzAdam |
is this a good commit message? Make steel block and brick drop themselves when digged and make them craftable back into the their materials |
| 16:51 |
RealBadAngel |
can you point me to the fix? |
| 16:51 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: works for me. |
| 16:51 |
RealBadAngel |
for me too |
| 16:51 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: latest homedecor. https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/commits/master |
| 16:52 |
VanessaE |
I didn't log that fix in as a specific commit |
| 16:52 |
VanessaE |
it just got fixed in the normal course of developing the mod. |
| 16:52 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: i guess you don't have to be so paranoid about stuff you push to repo |
| 16:52 |
RealBadAngel |
VanessaE, got it, thx |
| 16:52 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, but it makes me feel safe |
| 16:53 |
RealBadAngel |
well, im safe now, no more unwanted childs, said a man that cut off his d..k ;) |
| 16:54 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: the server just takes any files with specific extensions, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/src/server.cpp#L4018 |
| 16:55 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: ok. I must be thinking of the black-screen delay, that's where the time adds up. |
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| 16:55 |
RealBadAngel |
PilzAdam, if the commit is wrong you can always undo it or fix it |
| 16:56 |
RealBadAngel |
its a development |
| 16:56 |
PilzAdam |
you cant undo commits in git |
| 16:56 |
RealBadAngel |
you can fix them |
| 16:56 |
PilzAdam |
sure, but the history will show how stupid i am ;-) |
| 16:56 |
RealBadAngel |
and ive never seen the code 100% perfect from the start |
| 16:56 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: as long as the commit message is informative and factual, I'm sure your exact grammar doesn't matter :-) |
| 16:57 |
RealBadAngel |
remember that most of us are not native speakers |
| 16:57 |
RealBadAngel |
including you |
| 16:58 |
RealBadAngel |
on EU theres one player that doesnt speak a word |
| 16:59 |
ruskie |
well he is only 10 |
| 16:59 |
RealBadAngel |
i was wondering why, hes from romania and he doesnt speak english at all |
| 16:59 |
ruskie |
and he actually is able to cobble a few words together every so often |
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| 16:59 |
RealBadAngel |
only his brother does |
| 16:59 |
PilzAdam |
i guess this splits the MT comminity into two parties: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/pull/13 |
| 16:59 |
PilzAdam |
*community |
| 17:00 |
RealBadAngel |
nah |
| 17:00 |
iqualfragile |
i think dyes are great |
| 17:00 |
RealBadAngel |
with time we will polish it |
| 17:00 |
VanessaE |
use Jordach's woolcraft recipes |
| 17:00 |
VanessaE |
change for the sake of change is bad, mmkay? |
| 17:00 |
iqualfragile |
but you could be able to craft dyes with the items from his recipes |
| 17:00 |
RealBadAngel |
adding more content actually makes sense |
| 17:00 |
RealBadAngel |
same for moreores |
| 17:01 |
iqualfragile |
well, dyes are a more common aproach |
| 17:01 |
VanessaE |
abso-fucking-lutely. |
| 17:01 |
VanessaE |
(rba) |
| 17:01 |
iqualfragile |
not realy… |
| 17:01 |
RealBadAngel |
basic game has to few items to make sensible craftin recipes |
| 17:01 |
iqualfragile |
it needs to be balanced |
| 17:01 |
VanessaE |
the more default items you have the game, the more widely the recipes you make can vary |
| 17:01 |
Jordach |
has anyone noticed that any dye + one wool returns 16 of them? |
| 17:01 |
VanessaE |
if everyone has access to say copper, everyone can use it to make something |
| 17:01 |
PilzAdam |
+1 for iqualfragile |
| 17:01 |
iqualfragile |
you have to think about the features and items and ores before you publish them |
| 17:01 |
RealBadAngel |
using everywhere cobble, iron and wood doesnt make sense |
| 17:01 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: yep, I think we all noticed that |
| 17:02 |
PilzAdam |
content is good, but gameplay is better |
| 17:02 |
RealBadAngel |
gameplay with a few items is worth shit |
| 17:02 |
PilzAdam |
sure |
| 17:02 |
Jordach |
because for decoration you can either spend precious on wool or use them for glass and torches / furnace fuel |
| 17:02 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: sure, but if gameplay isn't appreciably affected by content, what's the point of excluding said content? |
| 17:03 |
RealBadAngel |
world is HUGE |
| 17:03 |
Jordach |
i know where we should start |
| 17:03 |
PilzAdam |
i have nothing against tons of content, but it has to create something like gameplay |
| 17:03 |
Jordach |
by making maps HUGE |
| 17:03 |
VanessaE |
and if gameplay is *enhanced* by the added content, there is zero logic in leaving out said content. |
| 17:03 |
RealBadAngel |
is have to offer way to find many different stuff |
| 17:03 |
RealBadAngel |
and not same boring stuff everywhere |
| 17:03 |
PilzAdam |
btw: what do you guys think about this crap? https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/issues/15 |
| 17:04 |
RealBadAngel |
no matter how far or deep you will go |
| 17:04 |
VanessaE |
and that's certainly the case here - stuff like more ores, more blocks, jungle grass, wool (with sensible recipes if you must) add to the depth of the game and to the variety of things you can create. |
| 17:04 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: no wya. |
| 17:04 |
RealBadAngel |
same for snow mod |
| 17:04 |
RealBadAngel |
and more trees |
| 17:04 |
VanessaE |
definitely does NOT work. sorry |
| 17:04 |
RealBadAngel |
another biomes |
| 17:04 |
RealBadAngel |
game desperately need such stuff |
| 17:05 |
RealBadAngel |
what for shall i move 1000 nodes further |
| 17:05 |
RealBadAngel |
if i know i wont find there nothin new? |
| 17:06 |
RealBadAngel |
so why +-31000? |
| 17:06 |
RealBadAngel |
if world is just the same everywhere |
| 17:06 |
Jordach |
has anyone thought of extending the map size yet? |
| 17:06 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, there is this two changes in one pull request thing again... |
| 17:06 |
RealBadAngel |
what for? |
| 17:07 |
RealBadAngel |
fill existing one with another content first |
| 17:07 |
Jordach |
free 2 play / public servers |
| 17:07 |
Jordach |
give em a year ad they will hit 31000 soon |
| 17:07 |
RealBadAngel |
jungles, arctic, swamps |
| 17:07 |
RealBadAngel |
etc |
| 17:07 |
RealBadAngel |
wastelands |
| 17:08 |
VanessaE |
glass breaking: http://www.freesound.org/people/Connum/sounds/66519/ |
| 17:08 |
VanessaE |
cc-by-sa. |
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| 17:08 |
VanessaE |
trim the length of the sample and you've got glass blocks being broken. |
| 17:09 |
VanessaE |
should work for any large glass item by the sound of it. |
| 17:09 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: so? Both add stuff the game needs. |
| 17:09 |
VanessaE |
there's nothing wrong with two or more commits per pull request. |
| 17:11 |
PilzAdam |
this https://github.com/VanessaE/minetest_game/commit/f74af53ff32c6f747663f9a952a63be97c800f1d#L3R111 and the README of the vesels mod does not follow the convention of the other mods in minetet_game |
| 17:12 |
VanessaE |
*facepalm* |
| 17:12 |
PilzAdam |
I know you dont care about such thinks, but I do ;-) |
| 17:12 |
VanessaE |
who gives a shit what the readmes say? the code is the important thing here. |
| 17:12 |
PilzAdam |
the code is also not 100% correct |
| 17:13 |
VanessaE |
so pull it, edit to suit, push to master? |
| 17:13 |
PilzAdam |
yea i can do this |
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| 17:21 |
OdnetninI |
can anyone help me with the error i say before: http://pastebin.com/57BzHx3b ? |
| 17:21 |
VanessaE |
you have to give us time to answer, OdnetninI |
| 17:22 |
VanessaE |
OdnetninI: no clue what that message means, but it doesn't look like an error as such - I get those occasionally but sound still works. |
| 17:22 |
OdnetninI |
what can ocassionate, that my window closes? |
| 17:23 |
VanessaE |
oh I see, you mean the gfx messages |
| 17:23 |
VanessaE |
Mesa DRI = you're using open source drivers.... on an old S3 chipset? |
| 17:24 |
OdnetninI |
mmm |
| 17:24 |
OdnetninI |
S3 chipset? I don't know if i have this |
| 17:24 |
VanessaE |
(or S3 is associated with Mesa I guess. been years since I used that driver) |
| 17:25 |
VanessaE |
either way you need a better video driver. the game apparently needs something your driver doesn't have |
| 17:25 |
OdnetninI |
What can it be? |
| 17:25 |
OdnetninI |
The singleplayer works |
| 17:25 |
VanessaE |
dunno |
| 17:25 |
OdnetninI |
but multiplayer nto |
| 17:26 |
VanessaE |
what version of MT is this? |
| 17:26 |
OdnetninI |
The lastest git |
| 17:26 |
VanessaE |
built when? |
| 17:26 |
OdnetninI |
I downloaded today |
| 17:26 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 17:26 |
Octupus |
Booop |
| 17:27 |
VanessaE |
what video chip set do you use then? |
| 17:27 |
OdnetninI |
dunno |
| 17:27 |
VanessaE |
find out |
| 17:28 |
OdnetninI |
VESA: VBE 3.0 |
| 17:28 |
VanessaE |
that's not a chipset. |
| 17:28 |
VanessaE |
that's a driver type. you're lucky the game runs at all |
| 17:28 |
BUILDV3 |
well is Ghostshell on or maybe Bad_Commands |
| 17:28 |
OdnetninI |
It's only I know |
| 17:29 |
PilzAdam |
BUILDV3, no |
| 17:29 |
VanessaE |
BUILDV3: do you see either of them in the user list? No, they are not on. |
| 17:29 |
VanessaE |
OdnetninI: Google Is Your Friend â„¢ :-) |
| 17:29 |
PilzAdam |
google is evil |
| 17:30 |
VanessaE |
BUILDV3: go ask your question directly on the Gameboom forums or on the Minetest forums, if either of the two needs to answer, they'll eventually see. |
| 17:30 |
VanessaE |
otherwise, just ask your question here. |
| 17:30 |
VanessaE |
don't ask for a specific person if it isn't necessary |
| 17:30 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: but...but...You can make money without being evil? :-) |
| 17:30 |
PilzAdam |
sure |
| 17:30 |
PilzAdam |
but google doesnt |
| 17:31 |
OdnetninI |
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] |
| 17:31 |
VanessaE |
OdnetninI: THAT is a chipset. |
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| 17:31 |
VanessaE |
I didn't know anyone still ran the old Savage chipset. you're lucky you get an image on the screen at all :-) |
| 17:32 |
OdnetninI |
I can't play multiplayer in this computer? |
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| 17:32 |
VanessaE |
OdnetninI: start by turning on the proper driver for that chipset - VESA ain't it. as I recall, there is an X driver for the S3 series. |
| 17:32 |
VanessaE |
see how the game behaves then. |
| 17:32 |
OdnetninI |
Mmm ok |
| 17:33 |
OdnetninI |
how can i turn this driver? |
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| 17:33 |
VanessaE |
beats me, I haven't messed with those old drivers in years, but as a start you probably need the xserver-xorg-video-savage package (or whatever your distro calls it) |
| 17:34 |
VanessaE |
and you probably need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 17:38 |
babyface1031 |
VanessaE can you help me i am trying to make a shop of your dyes but dont know the name of the node |
| 17:39 |
OdnetninI |
I install xserver-xorg-video-savage_2.3.3-1~oneiric~xup1_i386.deb |
| 17:39 |
OdnetninI |
now what? |
| 17:41 |
OdnetninI |
my xorg.conf is empty |
| 17:42 |
OdnetninI |
VanessaE? |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
OdnetninI: you'll have to search the web for info at this point. |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
babyface1031: they're named things like unifieddyes:red, unifieddyes:light_blue, unifieddyes:dark_green_s50, etc. |
| 17:43 |
VanessaE |
babyface1031: there's a listing of all the node names inside the unifieddyes folder. |
| 17:43 |
babyface1031 |
ok ty |
| 17:43 |
babyface1031 |
oh ok |
| 17:43 |
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| 17:47 |
OdnetninI |
I don't find nothing |
| 17:47 |
VanessaE |
change your search words and look again |
| 17:47 |
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| 17:51 |
OdnetninI |
odnetnini odnetnini-Professional-Workstation-AP550:~/Descargas$ glxinfo | grep direct direct rendering: Yes X Error of failed request: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 136 (XFree86-DRI) Minor opcode of failed request: 9 () Resource id in failed request: 0x3200004 Serial number of failed request: 44 Current serial number in output stream: 44 |
| 17:51 |
OdnetninI |
this is an error |
| 17:51 |
RealBadAngel |
your distro? |
| 17:51 |
VanessaE |
OdnetninI: you're left with figuring out your video driver issues on your own I'm afraid. |
| 17:52 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: triskell linux I think |
| 17:52 |
VanessaE |
er trisquel |
| 17:52 |
OdnetninI |
is trisquell yes |
| 17:57 |
Octupus |
WOW black ops 2 is dry |
| 17:58 |
OdnetninI |
I can't do anything else? |
| 17:58 |
RealBadAngel |
OdnetninI, have you tried those? http://packages.trisquel.info/taranis/xserver-xorg-video-savage |
| 17:59 |
OdnetninI |
Yes |
| 17:59 |
OdnetninI |
glxinfo | grep directdirect rendering: Yes X Error of failed request: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 136 (XFree86-DRI) Minor opcode of failed request: 9 () Resource id in failed request: 0x3200004 Serial number of failed request: 44 Current serial number in output stream: 44 |
| 17:59 |
RealBadAngel |
youre still using DRI |
| 18:00 |
RealBadAngel |
you havent installed savage ones |
| 18:00 |
OdnetninI |
I install |
| 18:00 |
ruskie |
no he is using DRI |
| 18:00 |
ruskie |
DRI is correct |
| 18:00 |
ruskie |
DRI are the accelerated drivers |
| 18:00 |
OdnetninI |
sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-savage [sudo] password for odnetnini: Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho Creando árbol de dependencias Leyendo la información de estado... Hecho xserver-xorg-video-savage ya está en su versión más reciente. 0 actualizados, 0 se instalarán, 0 para eliminar y 0 no actualizados. odnetniniodnetnini-Professional-Workstation-AP550:~$ |
| 18:01 |
RealBadAngel |
hmmm |
| 18:02 |
OdnetninI |
any idea? |
| 18:04 |
RealBadAngel |
try to find another versions of the drivers |
| 18:04 |
ruskie |
what's the actual problem? |
| 18:04 |
RealBadAngel |
when i was installing debian here i tried 6 releases of ATI drivers until i got workin one |
| 18:05 |
OdnetninI |
I think i need make a change to X11/xorg.conf |
| 18:05 |
OdnetninI |
but i don't know how |
| 18:05 |
RealBadAngel |
those morons keep tellin me that card bough circa 1,5 yrs ago is too old and is not supported |
| 18:05 |
ruskie |
RealBadAngel, only ati and nvidia provide proprietary drivers... the others are all DRIed already |
| 18:05 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: stupid, stupid, stupid :( |
| 18:06 |
RealBadAngel |
assholes, Thorvalds should also say "fuck you amd" not only to Nvidia |
| 18:06 |
VanessaE |
whatever happened to that great open source commitment by ATI? |
| 18:06 |
ruskie |
VanessaE, it's still there |
| 18:06 |
ruskie |
they still provide docs |
| 18:06 |
VanessaE |
then why does my ~2 year old video card still need the proprietary blob to work well? >:-( |
| 18:06 |
RealBadAngel |
thyere boycotting linux |
| 18:07 |
ruskie |
VanessaE, if you are refering to firmware a lot of things need it and that isn't an issue |
| 18:07 |
RealBadAngel |
yesterday i saw message that current flash version for Linux is THE LAST ONE |
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| 18:07 |
OdnetninI |
it is impsoble to run minetest multiplayer at this computer? |
| 18:07 |
Mika_R |
hi all |
| 18:07 |
ruskie |
it's getting the DRI drivers to talk properly |
| 18:07 |
ruskie |
RealBadAngel, and no they aren't |
| 18:07 |
VanessaE |
ruskie: I refer to the proprietary fglrx driver. when it works, it works great. When it fails, it fails miserably. |
| 18:07 |
ruskie |
they are encouraging open source drivers |
| 18:07 |
OdnetninI |
Bye |
| 18:07 |
ruskie |
VanessaE, yeah ok... I don't call that a blob |
| 18:07 |
RealBadAngel |
you shall use word "FORCING" |
| 18:08 |
RealBadAngel |
read leavin it because they dont see enough money here |
| 18:09 |
ruskie |
they aren't leaving it |
| 18:09 |
RealBadAngel |
as if money earned on selling the hardware wasnt enough |
| 18:09 |
RealBadAngel |
current AMD drivers are totally fucked up |
| 18:10 |
RealBadAngel |
with 100$ card, not so old |
| 18:10 |
ruskie |
RealBadAngel, considering years of using open source drivers with ATI gear I can't say they are |
| 18:10 |
RealBadAngel |
installing those drivers destroyed my system |
| 18:10 |
ruskie |
I always had issues with the binary ones |
| 18:10 |
RealBadAngel |
open source ones are still too slow |
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| 18:10 |
ruskie |
RealBadAngel, depends for which card true |
| 18:11 |
RealBadAngel |
on my hardware 25-30% circa |
| 18:11 |
ruskie |
there's a large dark spot between r200 and latest |
| 18:11 |
RealBadAngel |
i wont be buyin new card for the very same box each yr |
| 18:12 |
RealBadAngel |
just because assholes that producin it cant release proper drivers |
| 18:12 |
ruskie |
heh |
| 18:13 |
VanessaE |
he's right though |
| 18:13 |
VanessaE |
I've had perfectly good, fast video devices become unusable because the properietary driver loses support before the open source driver has caught up |
| 18:14 |
RealBadAngel |
theyre makin this on purpose |
| 18:14 |
ruskie |
a lot of the support is probably in experimental branches |
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| 18:14 |
RealBadAngel |
to force ppl to buy new ones |
| 18:14 |
ruskie |
and hence long and far away from getting into any distro |
| 18:14 |
RealBadAngel |
market is jammed |
| 18:14 |
VanessaE |
(as is the case with my laptop - I can't run anything newer than roughly 2008-era before I lose support for the onboard video and have to resort to crappy open source drivers) |
| 18:14 |
ruskie |
or mainline kernel |
| 18:15 |
RealBadAngel |
only way to sell more are such tricks |
| 18:16 |
ruskie |
not really |
| 18:16 |
RealBadAngel |
soon 10 minutes after you will go out the shop with newly bought piece of hardware it may happen its too old to support |
| 18:16 |
ruskie |
but their binary drivers used to be utter shite |
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| 18:16 |
ruskie |
I believe that started changing since they started droping old version |
| 18:17 |
ruskie |
maybe they should just run it like nvidia with 20 billion different version of the driver always maintained |
| 18:17 |
RealBadAngel |
theyre makin money on this |
| 18:17 |
ruskie |
just like I'm making money on minetest... not |
| 18:17 |
RealBadAngel |
its their fucink responibility to support drivers for sold hardware |
| 18:18 |
ruskie |
people won't buy stuff just because |
| 18:18 |
VanessaE |
they're making money on forcing you to buy the latest and greatest, by not giving you drivers that support your hardware, making your perfectly good hardware look broken and slow by comparison |
| 18:18 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: fork minetest_game and add moreores/moreblocks + pull request plz :-) |
| 18:20 |
RealBadAngel |
and bring me a beer for raising it ;) |
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| 18:22 |
* Jordach_ |
hands RealBadAngel a cold one |
| 18:23 |
PilzAdam |
btw: what do you guys think about not renewable lava? |
| 18:23 |
FreeFull |
No |
| 18:23 |
thexyz |
yes |
| 18:23 |
Jordach_ |
yes |
| 18:23 |
VanessaE |
meh, i think it's fine the way it is. |
| 18:23 |
Jordach_ |
we dont want griefers spamming lava with a endless resource |
| 18:24 |
Jordach_ |
(and for someone whos been griefed before, its common sense really) |
| 18:24 |
VanessaE |
now what lava *should* do is something like that lava cooling mod I guess |
| 18:24 |
thexyz |
i'd also like to have "default" splitted into several smaller mods |
| 18:24 |
RealBadAngel |
PilzAdam, i personally would love to see finite liquids volumes |
| 18:24 |
VanessaE |
the further from a source, the cooler the lava until it just acts like stone. |
| 18:24 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: nope, default game shouldn't have too much content |
| 18:24 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: default game should have *tons* of content. |
| 18:24 |
Calinou |
maybe add stone bricks/stonesquares/horizontal trees |
| 18:25 |
RealBadAngel |
like source spreading to air node, will have 1/2 of volume |
| 18:25 |
Calinou |
we should not turn minetest_game into KDE |
| 18:25 |
Calinou |
(8D) |
| 18:25 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: minetest is not dwarf fortress |
| 18:25 |
thexyz |
realtest is |
| 18:25 |
thexyz |
(probably) |
| 18:25 |
RealBadAngel |
but some stuff has to be there |
| 18:25 |
Calinou |
+1 for making lava non-renewable anyway |
| 18:25 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: er, your point? |
| 18:25 |
Calinou |
RealBadAngel: there is some stuff |
| 18:25 |
VanessaE |
content is as important to the game as the style of gameplay itself. |
| 18:25 |
RealBadAngel |
too few |
| 18:25 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: there're games for it |
| 18:25 |
Calinou |
some basic blocks to build stuff; some ores to find and mine |
| 18:26 |
thexyz |
see, http://minetest.net/forum/viewforum.php?id=15 |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
no mobs, though. we have no good, fast and bugless mod... |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
simplemobs is still quite glitchy |
| 18:26 |
Jordach_ |
4:2 lava should not be renewable, vote now |
| 18:26 |
RealBadAngel |
thats why folks start moddin by adding new tools and so |
| 18:26 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach_, +1 for not |
| 18:26 |
PilzAdam |
*not renewable |
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| 18:26 |
RealBadAngel |
not renewable |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
good software is modular |
| 18:27 |
Jordach_ |
5:2 |
| 18:27 |
thexyz |
i'd also replace default doors with xdoors2 |
| 18:27 |
Jordach_ |
<Calinou> good software is modular - MS Windows can be changed easily |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
this is why the default MT game should have some basic content to make the game work. but if you want additional content, add it using mods. and these are easy to install |
| 18:27 |
RealBadAngel |
thexyz, agreed |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
(shouldn't be too small either. but too small is better than too big) |
| 18:27 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, the doors from PilzTest are better for texture makers |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
+1 PilzAdam |
| 18:28 |
thexyz |
wtf http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2734 |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam: pull request your xdoors2 mod from pilztest :) |
| 18:28 |
RealBadAngel |
yeah, windows can be changed easily, format and go for debian for example ;) |
| 18:28 |
VanessaE |
as I said before, the more content the game has, the more content modders can add later by way of using those newly-added blocks in their recipes. |
| 18:28 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: those without window? |
| 18:28 |
VanessaE |
every block added multiplies the number of possible recipes. |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
thexyz: lol'd |
| 18:29 |
RealBadAngel |
which can be more original |
| 18:29 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: every block added increases RAM usage and loading time :) |
| 18:29 |
RealBadAngel |
not only wood, stone, sticks |
| 18:29 |
VanessaE |
so? |
| 18:29 |
RealBadAngel |
so what? |
| 18:29 |
VanessaE |
the game already takes a shitton of RAM and forever to load? |
| 18:29 |
RealBadAngel |
ram is cheap |
| 18:29 |
Calinou |
it's a PITA to add RAM on most laptops |
| 18:29 |
VanessaE |
have you ever *looked* at the amount of RAM the default game uses? |
| 18:30 |
RealBadAngel |
who plays on laptops? masochists? ;) |
| 18:30 |
VanessaE |
it allocates somewhere north of 800MB when I last looked. |
| 18:30 |
thexyz |
i guess we shouldn't allow users to edit theirs posts |
| 18:30 |
Calinou |
i guess we shouldn't allow users to post |
| 18:30 |
Calinou |
FTFY |
| 18:30 |
thexyz |
that'd be nice too |
| 18:30 |
RealBadAngel |
laptop is not the device for gaming |
| 18:30 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, whats with new versions of mods? |
| 18:30 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: indeed. |
| 18:30 |
RealBadAngel |
soon you would like to be able to play minetest with your fridge ;) |
| 18:30 |
Calinou |
RealBadAngel: not everyone has the money to buy a computer (laptop/desktop) with good specs |
| 18:30 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: ask moderator to update the post |
| 18:31 |
VanessaE |
gaming on a laptop is just asking for hurt. |
| 18:31 |
RealBadAngel |
Calinou, bullshit |
| 18:31 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, i sometimes have to wait 2 days until a topic gets moved! |
| 18:31 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: if you can buy a laptop, you can buy twice as much desktop. |
| 18:31 |
Calinou |
VanessaE: I played on a 3yo laptop for a while, but it was quite high-end when I bought it (and now, guess what, it is still, IMO. :D) |
| 18:31 |
Calinou |
true |
| 18:31 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: poor you =( |
| 18:31 |
RealBadAngel |
takin the price of the average laptop, you can have 50% faster box |
| 18:31 |
Calinou |
laptops are getting more expensive and not really better in specs |
| 18:31 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: ask for moderator privs |
| 18:31 |
VanessaE |
exactly. |
| 18:32 |
VanessaE |
laptops are a dead end for any kind of computing power needs. |
| 18:32 |
Calinou |
4GB RAM, 2ghz-2core intel CPU, nvidia 9600M 512MB, 320GB HDD < bought in 2009, 17" laptop |
| 18:32 |
Calinou |
guess what you find in stores in 2012 now |
| 18:32 |
VanessaE |
just get a desktop for the real work and some el-cheapo notebook for the stuff that needs to be mobile. |
| 18:32 |
Calinou |
same thing but with weaker CPU and GPU. same price |
| 18:32 |
RealBadAngel |
those number dont mean anythin |
| 18:32 |
VanessaE |
you'll spend less and get a better gaming experience. |
| 18:32 |
Jordach_ |
yeah |
| 18:32 |
RealBadAngel |
your laptop is designed to save power |
| 18:32 |
Calinou |
and buy a computer without windows, too, save €100 |
| 18:32 |
Jordach_ |
my tower is stall a beast |
| 18:32 |
Calinou |
don't do like i do :| |
| 18:32 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: that helps. |
| 18:33 |
Jordach_ |
still |
| 18:33 |
RealBadAngel |
thus same parameters box will be way faster |
| 18:33 |
Jordach_ |
nah prefer win32 |
| 18:33 |
Calinou |
why |
| 18:33 |
Calinou |
nvidia cards just work with linux |
| 18:33 |
Jordach_ |
bull - i get half the framerate |
| 18:33 |
Calinou |
disable compositing |
| 18:33 |
Calinou |
if you use KDE that's normal anyway :P |
| 18:33 |
Jordach_ |
in linux than i do windows |
| 18:33 |
Jordach_ |
not to mention it limits me to 45fps |
| 18:34 |
RealBadAngel |
not to mention fuckin unconfortable keyoard and worst invetntion in the history of mankind: the fuckin touchpad |
| 18:34 |
* Jordach_ |
opens a can of Xonotic |
| 18:34 |
Calinou |
Jordach_: why would it do? |
| 18:34 |
Calinou |
you're doing it wrong, if it does |
| 18:35 |
Calinou |
kwin 5.0 will limit you to 5 fps |
| 18:35 |
Calinou |
be happy |
| 18:35 |
RealBadAngel |
laptops are good for bored house wives, that like to chit chat in the bed |
| 18:35 |
RealBadAngel |
nothin more |
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| 18:36 |
Calinou |
if you move often or want to use your "home" computer at work, they are useful |
| 18:36 |
Calinou |
if you are not, buy a desktop |
| 18:36 |
RealBadAngel |
for anythin more theyre so useful as 256 bit operation system in microwave owen |
| 18:36 |
Calinou |
(but ffs. do not buy a tablet :P) |
| 18:37 |
RealBadAngel |
box is the box, easily upgreadable, fast and reliable |
| 18:37 |
RealBadAngel |
even in case of somethin is broken, you just replace the part |
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| 18:37 |
Calinou |
yeah |
| 18:37 |
RealBadAngel |
not the whole device |
| 18:37 |
Calinou |
and desktops are MUCH cheaper |
| 18:38 |
Calinou |
and more powerful too, and way less prone to overheat |
| 18:38 |
* Calinou |
has enough RAM in his desktop to play minecraft |
| 18:38 |
RealBadAngel |
i bought 2gb extra just because of minecraft |
| 18:38 |
VanessaE |
I paid about US $600 for my current desktop. it would take perhaps $2000 or so to get a laptop with the same specs, if one could be made, and this is by no means a top-of-the-line machine tiehr. |
| 18:38 |
bulletrulz |
lol |
| 18:38 |
VanessaE |
either* |
| 18:39 |
bulletrulz |
i paid about 200$ for this netbook xD |
| 18:39 |
RealBadAngel |
and propably after half an hour workin with such speed that laptop would be overheated |
| 18:40 |
RealBadAngel |
and slow down |
| 18:40 |
RealBadAngel |
i made my box work slower than default |
| 18:40 |
bulletrulz |
wier dthing is my my netbook never overheats |
| 18:40 |
Calinou |
ultrabooks are terribly overpriced |
| 18:40 |
Calinou |
even more expensive than macs |
| 18:40 |
RealBadAngel |
by like 10%, thanks to it, it can work 24/7 |
| 18:40 |
* Calinou |
fails to understand computer manufacturers |
| 18:40 |
RealBadAngel |
i barely turn it off |
| 18:40 |
bulletrulz |
thats cause mac suxks |
| 18:41 |
Calinou |
*wants to make computers cheapers* *ships computers with windows, OEM crapware such as 4 primary partitions, and crapware in general* |
| 18:41 |
RealBadAngel |
btw have you seen Raspberry PI project? |
| 18:41 |
* ruskie |
has one of those |
| 18:42 |
bulletrulz |
i/me wants computers to ship wit linux |
| 18:42 |
RealBadAngel |
linux card-sized computer |
| 18:42 |
RealBadAngel |
ARM |
| 18:42 |
RealBadAngel |
that is capable of runnin Quake for example |
| 18:42 |
* bulletrulz |
wants computers to ship wit linux |
| 18:42 |
Calinou |
lolARM |
| 18:42 |
bulletrulz |
its 25$ |
| 18:42 |
bulletrulz |
lol |
| 18:42 |
Calinou |
*makes shit CPUs that are energy efficient* *behaves like patent troll to get money* |
| 18:42 |
RealBadAngel |
you would be suprised |
| 18:42 |
RealBadAngel |
what PI can do |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
RealBadAngel: real men run darkplaces in "ultimate" graphics preset |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
the $35 one is much better anyway |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
512MB ram, 2 usb, and... duh, internet |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
USB hubs aren't funny |
| 18:43 |
ruskie |
Calinou, the 512mb one is a new one |
| 18:43 |
bulletrulz |
wait that one is onlu 35$? |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
raspi lacks "in" audio, it only has "out" |
| 18:43 |
RealBadAngel |
im goin to build one into the keyboard |
| 18:43 |
bulletrulz |
id PUT ANDROID ON THAT SHIT LOL |
| 18:43 |
ruskie |
the older one still has only 256 |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
android is meh |
| 18:44 |
ruskie |
and yes... has usb slaved ethernet |
| 18:44 |
thexyz |
https://www.miniand.com/products/Hackberry%20A10%20Developer%20Board |
| 18:44 |
RealBadAngel |
and have such one for browsing the net, movies etc |
| 18:44 |
RealBadAngel |
PI can play FullHD movies |
| 18:44 |
ruskie |
RealBadAngel, so-so |
| 18:44 |
Calinou |
who watches movies on a computer today |
| 18:44 |
ruskie |
RealBadAngel, I used it with openelec |
| 18:44 |
RealBadAngel |
i do |
| 18:44 |
Calinou |
we have the TV. free (shit) movies, yey |
| 18:44 |
RealBadAngel |
i dont even have TV at home |
| 18:45 |
thexyz |
RealBadAngel: full hd does not matter, can it play 10bit 1080p video with high bitrate? |
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| 18:45 |
RealBadAngel |
yes it can |
| 18:45 |
thexyz |
even 10 bit?? |
| 18:45 |
RealBadAngel |
hardware encoders |
| 18:45 |
thexyz |
i thought 10 bit can only be software decoded (at present) |
| 18:45 |
Jeija |
Anyone else experiencing bugs using irrlicht 1.8 and minetest? |
| 18:46 |
cosarara97 |
my father's PI can do that? |
| 18:46 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NR57ELY28s |
| 18:46 |
VanessaE |
Jeija: what sort of bugs? |
| 18:47 |
bulletrulz |
:) patienly for linux to take over the world |
| 18:47 |
VanessaE |
(I just use whatever my machine and/or minetest currently comes with :-) ) |
| 18:47 |
Jeija |
the one I just discovered is that you can't type in any textboxes/fields |
| 18:47 |
VanessaE |
bulletrulz: it already has, see also Android as previously mentioned :-) |
| 18:47 |
Jeija |
at least you cannot see what you type |
| 18:47 |
bulletrulz |
yep :>D |
| 18:47 |
Calinou |
someone should make a pull request of xdoors2 but with only one nodebox per door (more flexible textures) |
| 18:48 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: homedecor has a similar sort of door |
| 18:48 |
Calinou |
2012 should be the year of non-flat doors :D |
| 18:48 |
VanessaE |
and everyone who uses that mod thinks it's great :-) |
| 18:48 |
ruskie |
RealBadAngel, have you tried playing minetest on it yet? |
| 18:48 |
thexyz |
RealBadAngel: as i already said, 1080p itself doesn't really matters; it can be different |
| 18:48 |
RealBadAngel |
not yet |
| 18:48 |
ruskie |
thexyz, I believe it craps out on 10bit |
| 18:48 |
thexyz |
for example, I have video with bitrate like 35372.207 kbit/s |
| 18:48 |
RealBadAngel |
got it for a few days by now |
| 18:48 |
ruskie |
or atleast it did last time I was using it |
| 18:49 |
ruskie |
as a media box |
| 18:49 |
ruskie |
had issues navigating xbmc and had random freezeups |
| 18:49 |
ruskie |
do need to order a few of the 512mb ones |
| 18:49 |
ruskie |
those should be better for stuff like mini browser etc... |
| 18:50 |
RealBadAngel |
i thought the same |
| 18:50 |
ruskie |
the 256mb version isn't all that much |
| 18:50 |
RealBadAngel |
just the keyboard and monitor then |
| 18:50 |
RealBadAngel |
for web activity |
| 18:50 |
Jeija |
I ordered 3x the 512mb version, maybe minetest server at least runs faster on those |
| 18:50 |
Jeija |
the 256mb version was horrible |
| 18:51 |
RealBadAngel |
need to find a keyboard that will have enough space to put the PI inside too |
| 18:51 |
Jeija |
There were lots of changes in irrlicht 1.8 that could have caused the editbox bug |
| 18:51 |
bulletrulz |
hows the cpu speed for the pi? |
| 18:51 |
RealBadAngel |
its arm, dont compare it to x86 |
| 18:52 |
ruskie |
it's old arm |
| 18:52 |
ruskie |
don't compare it to tegra |
| 18:52 |
bulletrulz |
i wont but what is it |
| 18:52 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs |
| 18:52 |
ruskie |
armv6 iirc |
| 18:52 |
bulletrulz |
maybe i can run minecraft on it lol |
| 18:52 |
bulletrulz |
jk |
| 18:52 |
ruskie |
bulletrulz, there is java for it iirc |
| 18:52 |
sfan5 |
bulletrulz: its too slow |
| 18:53 |
bulletrulz |
ikno it was a joke |
| 18:53 |
RealBadAngel |
its a project of a non-profit foundation |
| 18:53 |
RealBadAngel |
to make computer as cheap as possible for schools |
| 18:53 |
Jeija |
there was some minecraftlike block game running on the pi... just can't find it right now |
| 18:53 |
sfan5 |
minetet? ;) |
| 18:53 |
sfan5 |
*minetest |
| 18:54 |
ruskie |
RealBadAngel, well for students really not schools so much |
| 18:54 |
Jeija |
nope, definitely not |
| 18:54 |
RealBadAngel |
quake 3 on PI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_mDuJuvZjI |
| 18:55 |
bulletrulz |
ohcool |
| 18:56 |
sfan5 |
nice |
| 18:59 |
bulletrulz |
man the thing i hate about linux games is that there is no games that have a story |
| 18:59 |
ruskie |
bulletrulz, have you checked any of the linux game publishing ports? |
| 18:59 |
VanessaE |
even among Valve/Steam stuff? |
| 19:00 |
ruskie |
or the humble bundle stuff |
| 19:00 |
RealBadAngel |
btw i can see that folks out there runnin minecraft servers on PI |
| 19:01 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: re: Q3 on Pi, impressive. |
| 19:01 |
VanessaE |
(or would the appropriate word be "excellent"? ;-) |
| 19:02 |
RealBadAngel |
in terminology of q3 its "headshot" ;) |
| 19:07 |
RealBadAngel |
btw, back to ores, etc subject |
| 19:07 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.mod-buildcraft.com/forums/topic/forge-ore-dictionary-ore-better-basic-ore-support/ |
| 19:07 |
RealBadAngel |
please read this |
| 19:07 |
RealBadAngel |
you will notice lotsa similarities |
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| 19:09 |
VanessaE |
*whoosh* |
| 19:09 |
VanessaE |
that went over my head by about a mile |
| 19:09 |
ruskie |
mmm docked shippey coming along nicely |
| 19:09 |
sfan5 |
how do i push a new branch to my minetest fork? |
| 19:09 |
Jordach_ |
google |
| 19:10 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: git checkout <branch>; git add .; git commit; git push |
| 19:10 |
VanessaE |
I think |
| 19:10 |
sfan5 |
my problem is the git push |
| 19:10 |
sfan5 |
it just says "everything up to date" |
| 19:10 |
VanessaE |
huh. |
| 19:10 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, git branch your_branch && git checkout your_branch; <make changes commit etc.>; git push origin your_branch |
| 19:10 |
VanessaE |
ah forgot the origin argument. |
| 19:11 |
sfan5 |
so close, i tried git push origin/your_branch |
| 19:11 |
PilzAdam |
s/"/"/" " |
| 19:11 |
Jordach_ |
sfan5 - what are you trying to makwe |
| 19:11 |
Jordach_ |
make* |
| 19:11 |
PilzAdam |
gtg; bye |
| 19:11 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: protip, if you need to filter a slash, use another char for the sed delimiter. s:/: : |
| 19:11 |
VanessaE |
dammit |
| 19:12 |
sfan5 |
Jordach_: custom client hud elements |
| 19:12 |
Jordach_ |
sweeeeeeeeeeeetttttttttttttt |
| 19:12 |
* Jordach_ |
makes a TF2 gamemode for servers |
| 19:12 |
sfan5 |
what i got is https://github.com/sfan5/minetest/commit/4390edb5dc03bf61b0e9eb87a2552a19a76607bd |
| 19:12 |
VanessaE |
+#define PROTOCOL_VERSION 14 |
| 19:12 |
VanessaE |
NOoooooOOOOOoooooOOOOOooo |
| 19:12 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 19:13 |
thexyz |
problems with that? |
| 19:13 |
Jordach_ |
trolololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol |
| 19:13 |
VanessaE |
we're still trying to get v13 up to some semblance of popularity :-) |
| 19:13 |
Jordach_ |
VanessaE - fuck that, we need bigger maps |
| 19:14 |
sfan5 |
things that are missing: the lua function, actual code in game.cpp for rendering, test it |
| 19:14 |
thexyz |
i'd even prefer PROTOCOL_VERSION 9999 (when in development) and only increase it when milestone is released |
| 19:14 |
VanessaE |
Jordach_: never gonna happen. |
| 19:14 |
Jordach_ |
oh yes it will |
| 19:14 |
VanessaE |
Jordach_: not until at least the positioning and rendering bug at great distances is fixed. |
| 19:15 |
VanessaE |
it looks bad at X or Z = 30000 or -30000, imagine how bad it would be at 10000000000/-10000000000 |
| 19:15 |
thexyz |
sfan5: you should use tabs, not spaces |
| 19:15 |
sfan5 |
i just noticed that |
| 19:16 |
RealBadAngel |
shit, changes to formspec :( |
| 19:16 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 19:16 |
RealBadAngel |
yes |
| 19:16 |
sfan5 |
no changes to formspec |
| 19:16 |
RealBadAngel |
both cpp and h |
| 19:17 |
sfan5 |
but the formspec itsself didn't change |
| 19:17 |
sfan5 |
the changes were nessecary |
| 19:17 |
RealBadAngel |
the files |
| 19:17 |
sfan5 |
otherwise pressing e would close all custom hud elements |
| 19:17 |
RealBadAngel |
yes, my changes are waiting |
| 19:17 |
RealBadAngel |
to formspec |
| 19:18 |
RealBadAngel |
i cannot make further changes before they got merged |
| 19:18 |
RealBadAngel |
and if that will be merged i will have to redo the patch |
| 19:19 |
Calinou |
while we're talking about protocols |
| 19:19 |
Calinou |
imo, if strict protocol enforcing is disabled and client is older/newer, the client should recieve a warning message |
| 19:19 |
Calinou |
(if not done already, never tested) |
| 19:22 |
RealBadAngel |
can somebody apply my patch before 2 lines changes will break mine? |
| 19:22 |
RealBadAngel |
im changin lots more in formspec |
| 19:24 |
Calinou |
sfan5: nice, but will the positition of HUD formspecs be tweakable? |
| 19:24 |
Calinou |
and opacity? |
| 19:24 |
sfan5 |
dunno |
| 19:24 |
sfan5 |
i need to get it work first |
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thexyz |
RealBadAngel: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/pull/284/files#L1L281 |
| 19:41 |
RealBadAngel |
yes, this one |
| 19:45 |
Taoki |
yay, lua hud has been added? Do merge :D |
| 19:45 |
Taoki |
Well, actually, I'm sorta hoping not to see large codes merged until my models are in, since those have some huge code changes |
| 19:46 |
thexyz |
oh, i see, nekogloop burned out just like cornernote |
| 19:50 |
RealBadAngel |
thexyz, and? |
| 19:51 |
thexyz |
merged |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
| 19:51 |
RealBadAngel |
thx :) i can go further then and apply new stuff |
| 19:52 |
RealBadAngel |
jin_xi shall be happy now |
| 19:52 |
RealBadAngel |
he will be able to put nice backgrounds into tetris machine |
| 19:52 |
sfan5 |
how do i revert 1 commit? |
| 19:53 |
sfan5 |
Taoki: https://github.com/sfan5/minetest/commit/4390edb5dc03bf61b0e9eb87a2552a19a76607bd |
| 19:53 |
RealBadAngel |
i recloned the tree and applied the patch again to get rid of history |
| 19:53 |
thexyz |
sfan5: man git-reset |
| 19:54 |
thexyz |
oh |
| 19:54 |
sfan5 |
so git reset 4390edb5dc03bf61b0e9eb87a2552a19a76607bd --hard ? |
| 19:54 |
Taoki |
looks nice |
| 19:55 |
thexyz |
why do you need to revert it? |
| 19:55 |
thexyz |
(git reset --hard is dangerous, btw) |
| 19:55 |
thexyz |
it'll remove everything uncommited |
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Jeija |
you need make irrlicht not draw the background of an editbox (e->setDrawBackground(false);) in order use minetest with irrlicht 1.8 |
| 19:56 |
thexyz |
see http://stackoverflow.com/questions/448919/how-can-i-remove-a-commit-on-github |
| 19:56 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: https://github.com/sfan5/minetest/commit/7f88aac89be2e23552e6483615200c3d8d2cff17 look at server.cpp |
| 19:57 |
thexyz |
wtf |
| 19:57 |
RealBadAngel |
Jeija: what does it affect exactly? |
| 19:57 |
thexyz |
that's not the right way you fix identation ^^ |
| 19:57 |
Jeija |
in irrlicht 1.8 editboxes are white by default, the font is too |
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sfan5 |
the commit disappeared \o/ |
| 19:58 |
RealBadAngel |
so input box on formspec shall be changed? |
| 19:58 |
thexyz |
sfan5: better checkout server.cpp @4390edb5dc03bf61b0e9eb87a2552a19a76607bd, commit it, rebase everything into single commit, force push |
| 19:58 |
Jeija |
yep |
| 19:58 |
RealBadAngel |
a minute |
| 19:59 |
thexyz |
(probaby not the best way though) |
| 19:59 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: i used "git rebase -i HEAD~2" and deleted the commit |
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OldCoder |
I must go on an errand; back later |
| 20:04 |
sfan5 |
this should be right: https://github.com/sfan5/minetest/commit/d1794266a52df7cb6e1fab64d5d3ab2029b14bd5 |
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thexyz |
nice |
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thexyz |
now rebase those into single commit |
| 20:07 |
sfan5 |
how to do that? |
| 20:08 |
sfan5 |
... |
| 20:08 |
sfan5 |
i'll googlen |
| 20:08 |
sfan5 |
-n |
| 20:09 |
thexyz |
git rebase -i HEAD~2, then change pick to squash |
| 20:09 |
thexyz |
or fixup |
| 20:10 |
sfan5 |
it works |
| 20:10 |
sfan5 |
perfect! :) |
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bulletrulz |
lol |
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iqualfragile |
RealBadAngel: have you send pilzadam your patch for carts? |
| 20:32 |
Jeija |
When should we move to irrlicht 1.8? |
| 20:33 |
RealBadAngel |
iqualfragile, ive explained to him what i done |
| 20:33 |
RealBadAngel |
patch itself wasnt a big piece of code at all |
| 20:33 |
RealBadAngel |
two variables changed just |
| 20:33 |
iqualfragile |
wich? |
| 20:34 |
RealBadAngel |
visual_size.x and y of cart |
| 20:34 |
RealBadAngel |
have to be set to 2 |
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| 20:34 |
RealBadAngel |
both of them |
| 20:34 |
RealBadAngel |
then (because you will get cart bigger) modification to the cart nodeboxes is needed |
| 20:34 |
RealBadAngel |
thats all |
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workflow |
Hey RealBadAngel, tetris textures are fantastic, thanks a lot! |
| 20:36 |
jin_xi |
oops |
| 20:37 |
OldCoder |
Back |
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OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, Hey |
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OldCoder |
thexyz, thanks again for talking to me regarding SQLite3 export |
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| 20:39 |
RealBadAngel |
jin_xi, ive updated the git |
| 20:39 |
RealBadAngel |
have you tried it? |
| 20:40 |
RealBadAngel |
im doing now deployin the machine |
| 20:41 |
RealBadAngel |
and we can have now background to tetris formspec |
| 20:47 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel: So, any news on the carts? Did you update the script to work with the latest code on the server (I improved a few things today). Seems they're pretty much good and working apart from some glithces |
| 20:48 |
RealBadAngel |
i will later today |
| 20:48 |
Taoki |
ok |
| 20:48 |
RealBadAngel |
and no news since yesterday, pilzadam came talked a bit and went away |
| 20:50 |
jin_xi |
RealBadAngel: about to try now, pulling |
| 20:52 |
RealBadAngel |
by now you have to place part manually |
| 20:52 |
RealBadAngel |
im workin on deploy code right now |
| 20:52 |
jin_xi |
well, that should be an easy one |
| 20:52 |
RealBadAngel |
*parts |
| 20:52 |
jin_xi |
i'll work on properly tracking game state next |
| 20:52 |
RealBadAngel |
i shall finish that soon |
| 20:53 |
RealBadAngel |
ive fixed drop function |
| 20:53 |
RealBadAngel |
just another name was needed |
| 20:53 |
jin_xi |
hm, it never crashed for me. |
| 20:53 |
RealBadAngel |
for me yes |
| 20:53 |
RealBadAngel |
every single try to drop crashed the game |
| 20:53 |
jin_xi |
well, that code is hacky anyway |
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jin_xi |
can get rid of stuck function too, its only called in drop |
| 20:54 |
RealBadAngel |
all variables have to be moved to meta anyway |
| 20:54 |
jin_xi |
yes, that would be good for server us |
| 20:54 |
jin_xi |
e |
| 20:54 |
RealBadAngel |
by now all the machines play the same game hehehe |
| 20:55 |
sfan5 |
i have this https://github.com/sfan5/minetest/commit/bbe493600235014d285998248279319970a7fe97 and i'll go to bed now |
| 20:56 |
Jordach_ |
night all |
| 21:04 |
jin_xi |
my ideas for upper and lower node formspec is this: |
| 21:04 |
jin_xi |
upper node is the game, as it is |
| 21:04 |
jin_xi |
lower node, one field to place coin (ingot) |
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jin_xi |
hm, i wonder whats causing name conflict with drop |
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jin_xi |
lua can both have a variable named foo and a function named foo or not? |
| 21:07 |
jin_xi |
i think not, right |
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RealBadAngel |
idk, have to be tested |
| 21:11 |
RealBadAngel |
jin_xi, got it deployable, now just the facedir |
| 21:12 |
jin_xi |
fucking facedir |
| 21:12 |
jin_xi |
read trough painting commit log for a good laugh |
| 21:13 |
RealBadAngel |
there was somethin like dir to facedir |
| 21:13 |
jin_xi |
i think its simpler |
| 21:14 |
jin_xi |
use the lower nodes fd for the upper too |
| 21:14 |
jin_xi |
i did thid before, let me check |
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jin_xi |
local fd = node.param2 with node being the first one placed |
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jin_xi |
back in 10 mins |
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| 21:31 |
jin_xi |
back |
| 21:31 |
Calinou |
wb |
| 21:31 |
Calinou |
that's 15 minutes... |
| 21:32 |
jin_xi |
no shit holmes |
| 21:32 |
Calinou |
<redroid> Calinou vs. jin_xi |
| 21:32 |
Calinou |
* You were kicked from #redeclipse by redroid (You were executed for starting a frivolous lawsuit) |
| 21:38 |
RealBadAngel |
jin_xi, got placing done |
| 21:38 |
RealBadAngel |
with that .... facedir |
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RealBadAngel |
jin_xi you there? |
| 21:49 |
jin_xi |
yup, sry been reading other window |
| 21:49 |
RealBadAngel |
got the deployin done |
| 21:49 |
RealBadAngel |
can i commit it? |
| 21:50 |
jin_xi |
sure |
| 21:50 |
RealBadAngel |
om |
| 21:51 |
RealBadAngel |
ok, its on |
| 21:51 |
RealBadAngel |
now to make it behave proper when deystroying |
| 21:52 |
jin_xi |
yeah, those housekeeping stuffs |
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RealBadAngel |
already removed bottom part from creative |
| 21:52 |
RealBadAngel |
the one with screen is placeable |
| 21:52 |
jin_xi |
good. would be cool to have whole machine as inventory pic |
| 21:53 |
RealBadAngel |
you have already |
| 21:53 |
jin_xi |
oh |
| 21:53 |
steampunkey |
we need a mirror block |
| 21:53 |
steampunkey |
well we don't need it, but it'd go well in what i'm staring at right now XD |
| 21:53 |
RealBadAngel |
i made inventory cube out of whole machine textures |
| 21:54 |
RealBadAngel |
but wielded image is upper part just |
| 21:54 |
RealBadAngel |
with screen and visible teris logo |
| 21:54 |
jin_xi |
screen should emit blue night when the game is played at night |
| 21:55 |
RealBadAngel |
can be done |
| 21:55 |
RealBadAngel |
or change screen when powered |
| 21:55 |
jin_xi |
we can also make more arcade machines |
| 21:55 |
jin_xi |
i'll do nethack next |
| 21:55 |
jin_xi |
lol |
| 21:55 |
RealBadAngel |
pacman, snake... |
| 21:56 |
Calinou |
minecraft in minetest < next |
| 21:56 |
RealBadAngel |
rotfl |
| 21:56 |
jin_xi |
idk, but i very much like mc's forth computer |
| 21:56 |
RealBadAngel |
its not really forth |
| 21:56 |
RealBadAngel |
its a 6502 machine |
| 21:56 |
RealBadAngel |
with assembler |
| 21:57 |
jin_xi |
so, write forth? |
| 21:57 |
RealBadAngel |
forth is written in this assembler |
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RealBadAngel |
if you are brave enough you can write any soft for it |
| 21:58 |
jin_xi |
i only did little things in gforth, but it is always fun to try and come up with some forth |
| 21:58 |
RealBadAngel |
forth is quite easy |
| 21:58 |
steampunkey |
how do everyone all of the sudden know about forth? |
| 21:59 |
RealBadAngel |
i only used it in minecraft |
| 21:59 |
RealBadAngel |
to write some control logic for more complex machinery |
| 21:59 |
steampunkey |
oh that computer mod of theirs? yeah.. |
| 22:00 |
RealBadAngel |
its the part of RedPower2 by Eloraam |
| 22:00 |
RealBadAngel |
not the computer mod |
| 22:00 |
RealBadAngel |
computer mod is a piece of shit comparing to Eloraam's |
| 22:01 |
RealBadAngel |
eloraam provided fully workin microprocessor with, ram, devices, IO and all needed stuff |
| 22:02 |
RealBadAngel |
computer craft is just forth interpreter in Java |
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jin_xi |
RealBadAngel: did you push? |
| 22:05 |
RealBadAngel |
yup, synced |
| 22:05 |
jin_xi |
ok got it |
| 22:05 |
RealBadAngel |
one can live without CLI :) |
| 22:05 |
jin_xi |
just don't see it on the site yet |
| 22:07 |
jin_xi |
cool |
| 22:08 |
RealBadAngel |
strange |
| 22:08 |
RealBadAngel |
cant see it too |
| 22:08 |
RealBadAngel |
and i do got reports its updated |
| 22:10 |
jin_xi |
now its there :D |
| 22:10 |
RealBadAngel |
lag |
| 22:10 |
RealBadAngel |
github goin nuts again propably |
| 22:11 |
Calinou |
it's always goin nuts(R) --github |
| 22:12 |
Calinou |
fun IRC log (#bukkit @ espernet): http://paste.ubuntu.com/1354262/ |
| 22:12 |
jin_xi |
never had probs with it, but yes, maybe should move on to bitbucket |
| 22:12 |
Calinou |
bitbucket is worst |
| 22:12 |
Calinou |
worse* |
| 22:13 |
Calinou |
if I had to choose between bitbucket and gitorious I'd use gitorious |
| 22:13 |
Calinou |
gtg, bye |
| 22:13 |
tsquar3d |
Anyone got any suggestions for a good server to play on? |
| 22:16 |
RealBadAngel |
where are you from? |
| 22:17 |
tsquar3d |
RealBadAngel: Moi? |
| 22:17 |
RealBadAngel |
yup |
| 22:17 |
tsquar3d |
Complicated question. I LIVE in the UK. |
| 22:17 |
RealBadAngel |
then go for europe.minetest.org port 30000 |
| 22:17 |
tsquar3d |
Well, complicated answer, I suppose. |
| 22:18 |
jin_xi |
its about physical location and lag |
| 22:18 |
RealBadAngel |
allow a few minutes when connectin for the first time |
| 22:18 |
RealBadAngel |
server will transfer to your game lots of data |
| 22:18 |
tsquar3d |
Beans of coolness. |
| 22:19 |
RealBadAngel |
this is one time stuff |
| 22:19 |
RealBadAngel |
later on you will connect way faster |
| 22:19 |
tsquar3d |
So, why has dev been so slow... with mobs and whatnot. |
| 22:19 |
tsquar3d |
:-/ |
| 22:19 |
Uberi |
it's all server side |
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RealBadAngel |
i guess mobs etc are waitin for 3D models to be complete |
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tsquar3d |
3D models? Aren't they just pixel art done in.. like... gimp, or whatever? |
| 22:21 |
RealBadAngel |
by now yes, as players |
| 22:21 |
RealBadAngel |
but that gonna change soon |
| 22:22 |
RealBadAngel |
Taoki is very advanced with the code for it |
| 22:22 |
tsquar3d |
Sweet.. well, I happen to do 3D modelling and game programming both... so if they need volunteers.... |
| 22:23 |
tsquar3d |
It seems like Minec***t is not going to go open source anytime soon... so.... |
| 22:24 |
RealBadAngel |
talk to Taoki then (MirceaKitsune in forums) |
| 22:24 |
Uberi |
probably not ever, you know |
| 22:24 |
Taoki |
hi |
| 22:24 |
tsquar3d |
Uberi: I am getting that vibe. |
| 22:25 |
RealBadAngel |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=60 |
| 22:25 |
RealBadAngel |
read this topic |
| 22:26 |
tsquar3d |
Sweet! They're doing it in Blender! I'm doing my PhD work in the Blender Game Engine. :-) |
| 22:26 |
Uberi |
really, tsquar3d? |
| 22:26 |
Uberi |
fascinating |
| 22:26 |
RealBadAngel |
good |
| 22:26 |
RealBadAngel |
then for sure you can help with it |
| 22:26 |
tsquar3d |
Yeah... I recently gave a talk at the Blender conference. |
| 22:26 |
tsquar3d |
:-) |
| 22:27 |
jin_xi |
nice, blender is a very cool project |
| 22:27 |
tsquar3d |
Yeah... they're a great community, too. |
| 22:27 |
jin_xi |
goes way back to amiga, right |
| 22:28 |
Uberi |
goes way back |
| 22:28 |
Uberi |
existed before I did |
| 22:30 |
tsquar3d |
It started with a little program called "traces". But yeah.. it's been Open Source for 10 years now. |
| 22:30 |
Uberi |
only 10 years? I assumed it was much more |
| 22:30 |
tsquar3d |
It was commercial before that.. |
| 22:30 |
Uberi |
ah, yes |
| 22:31 |
jin_xi |
RealBadAngel: some notes for your consideration https://gist.github.com/4062441 |
| 22:32 |
jin_xi |
maybe a logo machine programmable via inventory and icons would be cool |
| 22:33 |
tsquar3d |
Hmm... is there a reason why the server will not let me chop down trees? |
| 22:33 |
tsquar3d |
Or pick up any blocks for that matter? |
| 22:33 |
jin_xi |
no interact priv? |
| 22:33 |
RealBadAngel |
insert coin is a cool idea |
| 22:34 |
RealBadAngel |
make silver, gold coins |
| 22:34 |
RealBadAngel |
1 ingot several coins |
| 22:34 |
jin_xi |
bitcoins, hehe |
| 22:34 |
RealBadAngel |
each kind allows to play for a different time |
| 22:34 |
RealBadAngel |
like silver 5 minutes, gold 10 minutes |
| 22:34 |
jin_xi |
just give credits and a start button |
| 22:35 |
jin_xi |
real arcade style |
| 22:35 |
tsquar3d |
Ah... so you have to ask permission to get editing abilities? |
| 22:35 |
RealBadAngel |
make it hardcore :) |
| 22:35 |
jin_xi |
its not like you can craft your currency |
| 22:35 |
tsquar3d |
Taoki: So, you're who I need to talk to about potential involvement? |
| 22:35 |
RealBadAngel |
tsquar3d, wait a sec i will login |
| 22:35 |
Taoki |
tsquar3d: I'm running the git branch, so yeah |
| 22:36 |
tsquar3d |
Touche' |
| 22:36 |
Taoki |
So far the code is ready with one exception: Some irrlicht functions aren't working like they should be |
| 22:36 |
jin_xi |
boo |
| 22:36 |
RealBadAngel |
Taoki, irrlicht went 1.8 |
| 22:36 |
Taoki |
*and made the code too... some things are rather complex sadly |
| 22:36 |
RealBadAngel |
and we are using 1.7x |
| 22:36 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel: Nice. I'm using the one installed by my repository |
| 22:37 |
RealBadAngel |
i was talkin bout it with Jeija today |
| 22:37 |
tsquar3d |
Well, I dunno... I might be useful. :-/ |
| 22:37 |
jin_xi |
please be |
| 22:37 |
RealBadAngel |
<Jeija> archlinux users have 1.8 right now |
| 22:37 |
RealBadAngel |
<RealBadAngel> what are pros to move? |
| 22:37 |
RealBadAngel |
<Jeija> it's faster |
| 22:37 |
RealBadAngel |
<Jeija> Occlusion culling |
| 22:37 |
RealBadAngel |
<Jeija> Improved support for 64-bit platforms |
| 22:37 |
RealBadAngel |
<Jeija> Major OSX device improvements |
| 22:37 |
RealBadAngel |
<Jeija> (copypaste from irrlicht.sourceforge.net) |
| 22:37 |
RealBadAngel |
<Jeija> Increased stability (lots of bugfixes!) |
| 22:38 |
jin_xi |
what about new bugs |
| 22:38 |
RealBadAngel |
heheh |
| 22:38 |
RealBadAngel |
minetest needs cosmetic changes to move to 1.8 |
| 22:39 |
RealBadAngel |
jeija got them ready |
| 22:39 |
RealBadAngel |
all are about editboxes |
| 22:39 |
RealBadAngel |
default fonts and background are white or somethin like this |
| 22:40 |
tsquar3d |
So, the dev is all in C++, I take it? I know the scripting language is Lua... I'm a python programmer (hence using BGE for my gamedev). |
| 22:40 |
RealBadAngel |
engine is in c++ |
| 22:40 |
RealBadAngel |
all modding is done in LUA |
| 22:42 |
RealBadAngel |
Taoki, it may happen that movin to 1.8 will eliminate some bugs youre fightin with |
| 22:42 |
RealBadAngel |
worth a try |
| 22:42 |
tsquar3d |
I see... any idea what modelling needs to be done? |
| 22:42 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel: When my Linux diostro updates that, it will move automatically |
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RealBadAngel |
goin to sleep |
| 23:02 |
RealBadAngel |
cya around |
| 23:02 |
tsquar3d |
'night RealBadAngel |
| 23:05 |
tsquar3d |
So, Taoki, what sort of models do you need? |
| 23:05 |
Taoki |
tsquar3d: I can make the player one |
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Taoki |
I'd rather others wait for my example blend just to be safe |
| 23:06 |
tsquar3d |
To get the style consistent? |
| 23:06 |
tsquar3d |
I get that. |
| 23:06 |
Taoki |
Unless they are experienced with animating for Irrlicht |
| 23:06 |
Taoki |
that too |
| 23:07 |
tsquar3d |
Ah... I've only ever done much with BGE. |
| 23:08 |
tsquar3d |
*total blender head* |
| 23:13 |
tsquar3d |
But... hey... let me know if/when I can assist. :-) |
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OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, c u |
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LandMine |
well well well look who is back |
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* NekoGloop |
has an MC gift card |
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Taoki |
tsquar3d: BGE is a nice game engine, though very limited. But Blender as a whole is a fantastic tool. Considering it's open source and the things you can create and render with it, it's pretty breathtaking on the big image |
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Taoki |
I did various things with it, so in time I pretty much learned Blender very well |
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tsquar3d |
Taoki: :-) |
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tsquar3d |
Yeah... there's not many people who use the game engine... especially as extensively as I do. Most of them just use it to model and then export their stuff to Unity or the like. |
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* LandMine |
already has MC :) |
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NekoGloop |
superflat customization ftw |
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tsquar3d |
Note to self.. be careful when trying to add lighting to your ice castle. |
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tsquar3d |
:-/ |
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NekoGloop |
tsquar3d: yeah, use glowglass. |
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OldCoder |
tsquar3d, or Lava Lamps |
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OldCoder |
:p |
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tsquar3d |
... yeah.... |
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NekoGloop |
In an icehouse?! |
| 23:32 |
tsquar3d |
Don't judge me. |
| 23:32 |
NekoGloop |
not judging you |
| 23:32 |
NekoGloop |
lava lamps in an icehouse. |
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tsquar3d |
:-p |
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NekoGloop |
you mad. |
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Octupus |
Hello |
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babyface1031 |
hi Octupus |
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Octupus |
im a mod on a MC server woot :) |
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Octupus |
Hi LandMine_ |
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tsquar3d |
Minetest needs guns. |
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VanessaE |
throwing mod. |
