| Time |
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| 00:15 |
khonkhortisan |
this was typed using a ⌨ |
| 00:15 |
OldCoder |
Servers need to go down for a short while to fix a problem |
| 00:21 |
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cornernote |
khonkhortisan, wrap it in [code][/code] |
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| 00:37 |
khonkhortisan |
code makes it monospaced horizontally (and it already was vertically) but the height is more than the width |
| 00:37 |
OldCoder |
Servers back up |
| 00:39 |
cornernote |
thats how text is |
| 00:39 |
cornernote |
they are taller than they are wide |
| 00:41 |
khonkhortisan |
a tree can grow faster than the grass under it dying |
| 00:41 |
cornernote |
ok.. ? |
| 00:41 |
cornernote |
u think the grass should die when the tree spawns ? |
| 00:42 |
khonkhortisan |
I think grass should die when I put a sapling on it |
| 00:42 |
* khonkhortisan |
is freaked out by black leaves |
| 00:46 |
cornernote |
it does when the abm runs |
| 00:46 |
cornernote |
u can change the sapling's after_place |
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khonkhortisan |
yeah, roots should mess with the grass. huh. dirt_with_roots? |
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| 01:01 |
khonkhortisan |
it's rush hour for joining |
| 01:01 |
jordan4ibanez |
here cornernote, try super_flat mode! it includes bedrock and such https://www.dropbox.com/s/mhgx4haghp5b4cs/drop_this_into_minetest.zip |
| 01:01 |
jordan4ibanez |
the super_flat variable is in the init.lua |
| 01:02 |
jordan4ibanez |
here is the complete changelog http://pastie.org/pastes/4899969/text?key=2yl5y6yohc4jrohdudja |
| 01:03 |
jordan4ibanez |
i recommend adding this to your minetest.conf, static_spawnpoint = 47, 30, -32 |
| 01:03 |
jordan4ibanez |
for some reason the first chunk won't generate, i'll have to over ride it |
| 01:07 |
jordan4ibanez |
brb |
| 01:13 |
cornernote |
checking now |
| 01:16 |
cornernote |
in the init.lua of which mod ? |
| 01:17 |
cornernote |
why is ambienc in 2 repos? which one is better ? |
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| 01:18 |
jordan4ibanez |
i meant super_flat in the minetest.conf |
| 01:19 |
cornernote |
ok |
| 01:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
i'm uploading the new version, where you can grow trees in superflat |
| 01:22 |
cornernote |
lol, i fell through the hole |
| 01:22 |
cornernote |
looks nice |
| 01:22 |
jordan4ibanez |
new version https://www.dropbox.com/s/mhgx4haghp5b4cs/drop_this_into_minetest.zip |
| 01:23 |
jordan4ibanez |
yes yes, i'm suprised how fast it is, i tried doing the world edit way, but everytime it did the while loop, it basically froze the server, the for method is much faster and smooth |
| 01:25 |
cornernote |
wonder why it wont load the 1st chunk |
| 01:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
that's been an issue for a while now, i just don't get it |
| 01:26 |
cornernote |
lemme look... sec |
| 01:26 |
Uberi |
oh register_on_generated doesn't seem to be called for the first chunk |
| 01:26 |
cornernote |
can u pastebin that mod ? |
| 01:26 |
cornernote |
so i dont have to download the whole pack again |
| 01:27 |
jordan4ibanez |
minetest.register_alias("mapgen_leaves", "default:leaves") |
| 01:27 |
jordan4ibanez |
minetest.register_alias("mapgen_apple", "default:apple") |
| 01:27 |
jordan4ibanez |
minetest.register_alias("mapgen_water_source", "air") |
| 01:27 |
jordan4ibanez |
lol |
| 01:27 |
cornernote |
IRC ~= pastebin |
| 01:27 |
cornernote |
but ok |
| 01:27 |
jordan4ibanez |
oops i forgot minetest.register_alias("mapgen_tree", "default:tree") |
| 01:27 |
cornernote |
but then,,, |
| 01:27 |
cornernote |
dont the trees spawn in the air ? |
| 01:27 |
cornernote |
and underground |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
hi all |
| 01:27 |
Uberi |
hi VanessaE! |
| 01:27 |
cornernote |
hey V |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
howdy :-) |
| 01:28 |
cornernote |
tank, you should make your own ABM to grow trees |
| 01:28 |
cornernote |
i have a grow_tree function in skyblock, just put an ABM around it |
| 01:28 |
cornernote |
sec, i'll get the code |
| 01:29 |
jordan4ibanez |
well you don't actually need that |
| 01:29 |
jordan4ibanez |
it works fine :D |
| 01:29 |
cornernote |
on a new world thats not already generated ? |
| 01:29 |
jordan4ibanez |
yes! |
| 01:30 |
cornernote |
dont believe it |
| 01:30 |
cornernote |
lol |
| 01:30 |
cornernote |
checking |
| 01:31 |
jordan4ibanez |
i think people might crap their pants when they see this lol |
| 01:33 |
cornernote |
it filled the hole at the start |
| 01:33 |
Uberi |
whaaaaaat |
| 01:33 |
cornernote |
i think the problem is it hasnt generated the ground where you are yet |
| 01:33 |
cornernote |
try setting the ground level to -5 where it is now |
| 01:33 |
cornernote |
that way when you fall, it will be generated |
| 01:34 |
cornernote |
also, it leaves some holes in random places |
| 01:34 |
jordan4ibanez |
yea, i can't fix this stuff, it happens in mapgen.cpp |
| 01:34 |
cornernote |
but the trees dont generate, i guess no good place to put them |
| 01:34 |
cornernote |
make ground level -5 and it will fix it |
| 01:35 |
jordan4ibanez |
how did you make it -5? |
| 01:35 |
jordan4ibanez |
pastebin pastebin! PASTEBIN! |
| 01:35 |
cornernote |
change this: if minp.y < 0 and maxp.y > 0 then to this: if minp.y < -5 and maxp.y > -5 then |
| 01:35 |
cornernote |
no, didnt help |
| 01:36 |
cornernote |
i dont understand what your loop is doing |
| 01:36 |
cornernote |
for i = 1,6400 do <-- why 6400 ? |
| 01:38 |
jordan4ibanez |
it checks if the map is generating in between the point 0 on the y axis, then it get's the original point that the chunk starts at, then adds in the layers x to + 80 from the area where the chunk starts at, then when x hits 80 it resets back to the starting point and z goes up 1 point and it repeats this in a for statement 6400 times to fill an entire chunk |
| 01:39 |
jordan4ibanez |
because there is 80x80 in a generated chunk, for whatever reason, and 80x80 = 6400 |
| 01:40 |
jordan4ibanez |
i thought chunks were supposed to be 16x16! i guess they actually aren't lol |
| 01:41 |
VanessaE |
mapblocks are. |
| 01:41 |
khonkhortisan |
I thought it loaded what it generated, that they were the same size |
| 01:41 |
VanessaE |
maybe they're just generated in 5x5 mapblock segments? |
| 01:41 |
khonkhortisan |
the intuitive explanation. |
| 01:41 |
Uberi |
that sounds entirely plausible |
| 01:42 |
khonkhortisan |
it's the size where you get the grooves through the landscape |
| 01:42 |
khonkhortisan |
redcrab's map is a good example of the lines |
| 01:42 |
VanessaE |
I remember seeing images (from minetestmapper.py) of old maps where you could see the mapblocks and the 5x5 'chunks' in the same areas |
| 01:42 |
jordan4ibanez |
if you do the actual minp - maxp it gives 79, but when i did 79 instead of 80 there was a single space in between each chunk |
| 01:43 |
VanessaE |
one of my old maps has that effect somewhere in it, if i still have that masp |
| 01:43 |
VanessaE |
map* |
| 01:43 |
jordan4ibanez |
or i mean maxp - minp |
| 01:43 |
Uberi |
is that fixed now? I saw the pull request and can't remember if it was accepted or not |
| 01:47 |
VanessaE |
sort of |
| 01:47 |
Uberi |
hmm? |
| 01:47 |
VanessaE |
it doesn't happen anymore but I guess it slowed the mapgen down somewhat |
| 01:48 |
Uberi |
dang |
| 01:49 |
Uberi |
mapgen is too slow right now, what happened to the pow() pull request? |
| 01:49 |
VanessaE |
c55 hasn't committed in weejs |
| 01:49 |
VanessaE |
weeks |
| 01:51 |
cornernote |
tank - i think this loop code looks better: https://gist.github.com/3824466 |
| 01:51 |
cornernote |
but i still cant get it to load under the player |
| 01:51 |
cornernote |
i got an idea |
| 01:51 |
Uberi |
yeah I'd hate to wade through that mountain of pull reqs and issues after that long |
| 01:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
yes but the problem with that code is the terrain generation lag |
| 01:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
that's what the code i create avoids |
| 01:56 |
cornernote |
i have a fix |
| 01:56 |
cornernote |
sec |
| 01:56 |
jordan4ibanez |
nah, it's fine man |
| 01:57 |
Basstard` |
When is Minecraft done? |
| 01:58 |
Uberi |
Basstard`: define "done"; stable? complete? |
| 01:58 |
VanessaE |
who cares about minecraft |
| 01:58 |
jordan4ibanez |
when jeb gives up |
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| 01:58 |
Uberi |
I care about minecraft |
| 01:59 |
VanessaE |
meh |
| 01:59 |
NekoGloop |
I care about my cake. |
| 01:59 |
Basstard` |
Uberi: Stable, complete, working, fun. |
| 01:59 |
VanessaE |
hineko |
| 01:59 |
NekoGloop |
Now what are we talking about? |
| 01:59 |
Uberi |
Basstard`: I'd say it is already all of those, but that's just my opinion |
| 01:59 |
Uberi |
Basstard`: I think that would vary depending on who you ask |
| 01:59 |
VanessaE |
bah, just play minetest with my homedecor mod and others. that's all you need :-) |
| 01:59 |
khonkhortisan |
the demo isn't fun |
| 01:59 |
NekoGloop |
Also depends on what mods |
| 02:00 |
NekoGloop |
In either game. |
| 02:00 |
Basstard` |
Uberi: But it's only on 0.4.something. |
| 02:00 |
NekoGloop |
khonkhortisan: I didnt tell you this, but toomanyitems' time-advancing lets you haxxor the demo time limit. |
| 02:00 |
NekoGloop |
Just alternate between midnight and sunrise. |
| 02:01 |
NekoGloop |
Or, it should, but sometimes fails. Idk why. |
| 02:01 |
Uberi |
Basstard`: no, it's on 1.3.5 now |
| 02:01 |
NekoGloop |
Also it lets you play creative mode should you want to. |
| 02:02 |
Basstard` |
Uberi: No? |
| 02:02 |
NekoGloop |
He means mt, uberi |
| 02:02 |
Uberi |
NekoGloop: oh I guess that was a typo then |
| 02:02 |
Uberi |
Basstard`: you do mean MineTest and not MineCraft? |
| 02:03 |
Basstard` |
Uberi: Yes, same thing |
| 02:03 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: 1: minecarts 2: a fun mob and damage system |
| 02:03 |
Uberi |
Basstard`: no, not the same thing, they are distinct products |
| 02:04 |
cornernote |
jordan4ibanez - something like this - https://gist.github.com/3824510 |
| 02:04 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: you know, I don't get why people are so gung-ho over minecarts anyway |
| 02:04 |
VanessaE |
and mobs, well we have three mob frameworks out there now, so.. |
| 02:04 |
jordan4ibanez |
oh yea, that's a pretty good idea, but it might cause a bit of lag |
| 02:04 |
NekoGloop |
Minecarts are faster travel |
| 02:05 |
NekoGloop |
However in mt they cause enough lag you are going the same speed. |
| 02:05 |
cornernote |
increase the timer to 10seconds |
| 02:05 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: none of the minecart mods are _fun_! for example, I tried to build a roller coaster in MT carts, but it just rolled off the tracks |
| 02:05 |
cornernote |
if they are falling anyway, its better than falling |
| 02:05 |
Basstard` |
Uberi: Minetest is a lesser version of Minecraft so it should be called Minecraft. |
| 02:06 |
Uberi |
fun is the most important element of a game! |
| 02:06 |
Uberi |
Basstard`: I'm afraid I don't follow your logic |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
Basstard`: Minetest is not related to minecraft in any way except gameplay. |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
and even that's somewhat different now |
| 02:07 |
Uberi |
the mobf mod is nice and all, but it's nowhere close to the MC system, IMO |
| 02:08 |
Basstard` |
VanessaE: Why would you care about semantics though? |
| 02:08 |
Uberi |
for one, there's no "real" pathfinding, the mobs don't move their limbs, and the animations look sort of... well, lacking |
| 02:08 |
NekoGloop |
We dont need mobs :l |
| 02:08 |
khonkhortisan |
NekoGloop, I didn't even know the demo had a time limit. I stopped when it didn't save. |
| 02:08 |
Uberi |
NekoGloop: subjective, of course, I find mobs add a lot :) |
| 02:08 |
VanessaE |
Basstard`: because it isn't semantics - minetest and minecraft are written by entirely different teams with different goals, different hardware targets, and an entirely different language. |
| 02:08 |
NekoGloop |
khonkhortisan: Demo does save... |
| 02:08 |
VanessaE |
that ain't just semantics, that's two wholly different products. |
| 02:08 |
NekoGloop |
Or do you mean the pocket edition one? |
| 02:09 |
khonkhortisan |
the tablet one |
| 02:09 |
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| 02:09 |
Uberi |
Basstard`: that's like saying grapes are oranges because grapes are lesser than oranges |
| 02:09 |
NekoGloop |
Well then your just fucked. Get the pc demo. |
| 02:09 |
khonkhortisan |
and some items were infinite and some had none |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: beat me to it - I was going for cheeses. :-) |
| 02:09 |
NekoGloop |
Khon, that's because mc:pe sucks. |
| 02:09 |
khonkhortisan |
<= |
| 02:10 |
Uberi |
:P |
| 02:10 |
Uberi |
NekoGloop: it's better than nothing :) |
| 02:10 |
Basstard` |
Uberi: No, that's different. |
| 02:11 |
Uberi |
Basstard`: it's an analogy |
| 02:11 |
Uberi |
of course it is different in name but it is the concept I was trying to convey |
| 02:11 |
NekoGloop |
Uberi, technically its nothing but a waste of space, the implementation is horrible, the mobs rarely if ever spawn so you dont get shit. |
| 02:11 |
khonkhortisan |
bzflag and warzone2100, supertuxkart and need for speed, pingus and mario. Completely different. |
| 02:12 |
Basstard` |
VanessaE: Minetest is a copy of Minecraft hence it is more or less Minecraft. |
| 02:12 |
Basstard` |
Uberi: If they would both be berries and one is bigger, or more known, then sure. |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
it is not a copy at all. |
| 02:12 |
NekoGloop |
Basstard`: So all "boxel" games are copies of minecraft? |
| 02:12 |
Uberi |
it is not a "copy" of MC, it has different goals and gameplay styles |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
no code from minecraft is being used, no textures, no mods, no mobs, nothing at all. |
| 02:13 |
NekoGloop |
Which, is in turn, a copy of infiniminer. |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
to be a copy it would at least have to use some of those. |
| 02:13 |
Uberi |
Basstard`: I once again fail to see how that works, unfortunately |
| 02:13 |
Basstard` |
NekoGloop: But which is more known? |
| 02:13 |
khonkhortisan |
minetest + compose key = crafting characters |
| 02:13 |
khonkhortisan |
I want to do that ^ |
| 02:13 |
Uberi |
if the bittersweet nightshade berries are smaller than blueberries, and blueberries are better known |
| 02:13 |
Uberi |
does that make the former no longer poisonous? |
| 02:13 |
khonkhortisan |
I can only do one level of "crafting", though. |
| 02:14 |
NekoGloop |
Minecraft because people think it came first. |
| 02:14 |
NekoGloop |
But it didnt. |
| 02:14 |
Basstard` |
Uberi: No, it would not make them no longer poisonous, but people would probably think they are blueberries. |
| 02:15 |
Uberi |
Basstard`: you're right, but that assumption would be false |
| 02:15 |
Basstard` |
Uberi: Yes. |
| 02:16 |
NekoGloop |
And where is this arguement going? |
| 02:16 |
Uberi |
it's not really an argument, we're just discussing semantics |
| 02:17 |
jordan4ibanez |
why is env a nil value? |
| 02:17 |
Uberi |
jordan4ibanez: minetest.env? |
| 02:17 |
NekoGloop |
minetest.env: |
| 02:17 |
jordan4ibanez |
shouldn't minetest.env work in all of minetest .lua files? |
| 02:17 |
jordan4ibanez |
yes yes i did that, but it's telling me it's nil |
| 02:17 |
VanessaE |
anything that depends on default I think yeah |
| 02:17 |
Uberi |
jordan4ibanez: make sure minetest is a global |
| 02:18 |
Uberi |
jordan4ibanez: if you're in a scope that redefines minetest, you will be referencing the local rather than the minetest object |
| 02:18 |
jordan4ibanez |
okay this is what i'm doing |
| 02:18 |
jordan4ibanez |
if super_flat == true then |
| 02:18 |
jordan4ibanez |
minetest.env:get_node(-20,-28,48) |
| 02:18 |
Uberi |
jordan4ibanez: I'm pretty sure that's invalid |
| 02:19 |
Uberi |
it's get_node(pos), where pos is a table |
| 02:19 |
NekoGloop |
pos isnt in a table for one. |
| 02:19 |
jordan4ibanez |
yes yes, let's say that was a table lol |
| 02:19 |
NekoGloop |
Er. What uberi said. |
| 02:19 |
Uberi |
:P |
| 02:19 |
khonkhortisan |
minetest.env:get_node({x=-20, y=-28, z=48}) |
| 02:19 |
cornernote |
<VanessaE> c55 hasn't committed in weejs <-- is anyone else able to make a stable build and merge in some of the higher priority features ? |
| 02:19 |
NekoGloop |
Tank, you need to depend on default. |
| 02:19 |
cornernote |
i dont know enough c++ to do it |
| 02:19 |
NekoGloop |
Also, is this in a local function? |
| 02:20 |
Uberi |
cornernote: should not be too difficult, most of the pulls are ripe for merging |
| 02:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
it is depending on default |
| 02:20 |
cornernote |
but if someone did that, sfan5 could update his builds, and we can carry on without c55 until he is back |
| 02:20 |
jordan4ibanez |
HMMM i think i know the issue |
| 02:20 |
VanessaE |
cornernote: my Mipmap build is stable ;) |
| 02:20 |
VanessaE |
but I suppose that doesn't could :-) |
| 02:20 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: got a link? :) |
| 02:20 |
VanessaE |
count& |
| 02:20 |
VanessaE |
GAH I can't type |
| 02:20 |
VanessaE |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=41100#p41100 |
| 02:20 |
VanessaE |
using jin_xi's code at the top of the thread |
| 02:21 |
VanessaE |
nothing fancy, just a few lines of code |
| 02:21 |
Uberi |
neat |
| 02:21 |
VanessaE |
any idiot with a text editor could apply those patches ;-) |
| 02:22 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: downsampling AA? |
| 02:22 |
Uberi |
oh nvm |
| 02:22 |
NekoGloop |
I have a text editor but i cant apply it. |
| 02:22 |
VanessaE |
Uberi: Anisotropic Filtering |
| 02:22 |
NekoGloop |
Have no way to build. |
| 02:22 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: you're not an idiot ;) |
| 02:22 |
NekoGloop |
:D |
| 02:22 |
NekoGloop |
Yes i am. |
| 02:22 |
Uberi |
NekoGloop: you need a patch tool |
| 02:22 |
NekoGloop |
Dont lie to me. |
| 02:23 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 02:23 |
khonkhortisan |
Anyone hate “smart quotes� |
| 02:23 |
VanessaE |
if you were you wouldn't have coded those mods of yours :-) |
| 02:23 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: only when people copy&paste text with them into a venue where they turn to gibberish |
| 02:23 |
NekoGloop |
My mods suck. |
| 02:24 |
VanessaE |
(they work fine for me here though, fwiw) |
| 02:24 |
Uberi |
NekoGloop: not so |
| 02:24 |
NekoGloop |
The only good thing i've done with my mods is make a screwdriver and treetap... :( |
| 02:24 |
NekoGloop |
Two very useless things on their own :( |
| 02:24 |
Uberi |
NekoGloop: but with their powers combined... |
| 02:24 |
khonkhortisan |
°…Don't.turn.on.non-printable.characters¶ |
| 02:25 |
NekoGloop |
Screwdriver is useless unless you have mesecons. Treetap is useless because rubber is useless. |
| 02:25 |
cornernote |
jordan4ibanez - did u have a chance to try workbenches ? |
| 02:26 |
VanessaE |
oh like Homedecor is particularly "useful"? or Pipeworks, or the other 10 mods I did? it's about what's fun, not what's "useful" :-) |
| 02:26 |
cornernote |
define useful |
| 02:26 |
Uberi |
NekoGloop: yep, fun is what matters |
| 02:26 |
NekoGloop |
Define useful. |
| 02:26 |
cornernote |
minetest~=useful |
| 02:26 |
NekoGloop |
Pipeworks is useful... How? |
| 02:27 |
VanessaE |
Useful /yoos' fuhl/ (adj.) 1. Capable of performing a valuable function. |
| 02:27 |
VanessaE |
;-) |
| 02:27 |
jordan4ibanez |
no not yet, but soon |
| 02:27 |
cornernote |
i guess it depends on what you consider valuable |
| 02:27 |
NekoGloop |
Define valuable |
| 02:28 |
VanessaE |
cornernote: oh that's one thing that bugs the shit out of me about Lua: ~= should mean "approximately equal" not "not equal".. |
| 02:28 |
NekoGloop |
I think it's like a waiver. |
| 02:28 |
cornernote |
code that means approximately equal? |
| 02:28 |
NekoGloop |
That's how i think of it. |
| 02:28 |
cornernote |
you mean like same value, different type |
| 02:28 |
Uberi |
VanessaE: I dunno, ~ means NOT in a lot of places |
| 02:28 |
cornernote |
3~="3" |
| 02:28 |
Uberi |
in C-like languages it means bitwise NOT |
| 02:28 |
Uberi |
so I suppose that is how I rationalize it |
| 02:29 |
cornernote |
i dunt really care, languages all have their things that peeve people |
| 02:29 |
VanessaE |
valuable /val' yoo buhl/ (adj.) 1. To possess value, as in something that, if missing, may cause substantial discomfort, delay, etc. |
| 02:29 |
VanessaE |
</troll> |
| 02:29 |
NekoGloop |
Keep trolling. |
| 02:29 |
NekoGloop |
I wanna see you get exhausted. |
| 02:29 |
cornernote |
im a php programmer, so i can whinge all day about the syntax horrors of that |
| 02:30 |
khonkhortisan |
trolling -> ☠|
| 02:30 |
VanessaE |
"syntax horror"...you use Blassic or something? ;-) |
| 02:30 |
cornernote |
a dot to concat 2 values ? omg.. and then cos the dot is used already, object.method() is object->method() |
| 02:30 |
cornernote |
and don't even get me started on namespaces |
| 02:31 |
cornernote |
backslashes?! |
| 02:31 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 02:31 |
cornernote |
lua is very pretty |
| 02:31 |
Uberi |
cornernote: I like the ->! |
| 02:31 |
Uberi |
I never get it confused with decimals |
| 02:31 |
cornernote |
its soo many keystrokes |
| 02:31 |
Uberi |
pffft :P |
| 02:31 |
cornernote |
3 instead of 1 |
| 02:32 |
cornernote |
almost needs a macro key =) |
| 02:32 |
cornernote |
lol |
| 02:32 |
NekoGloop |
There needs to be a lua keyboard |
| 02:32 |
cornernote |
i got a g15 |
| 02:32 |
khonkhortisan |
there's pdvk, but I wouldn't recommend it |
| 02:32 |
khonkhortisan |
I mean dvp |
| 02:38 |
Uberi |
NekoGloop: mine would have a "write all the code for me" button :) |
| 02:38 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 02:38 |
NekoGloop |
So would mine |
| 02:39 |
khonkhortisan |
http://xkcd.com/224/ |
| 02:40 |
khonkhortisan |
if only you could program in concepts themselves |
| 02:41 |
Uberi |
haha, I loved #224 |
| 02:43 |
khonkhortisan |
I also like the stones in the infinite desert one |
| 02:43 |
Uberi |
yeah |
| 03:03 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, added another world; I forget if I mentioned this after you returned |
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| 03:05 |
NakedFury |
how many worlds you have already? |
| 03:05 |
NekoGloop |
Too goddamn many. |
| 03:06 |
NakedFury |
a year ago I was playing on a minecraft server that had many many worlds too |
| 03:07 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, NekoGloop: 10 worlds. Why is that too many? |
| 03:07 |
NakedFury |
the way it did it was to have a Lobby world and from there you went to the other ones you wanted |
| 03:07 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
| 03:07 |
OldCoder |
Good idea |
| 03:07 |
NakedFury |
a complete snow world |
| 03:07 |
NakedFury |
desert |
| 03:07 |
NekoGloop |
Mystcraft? |
| 03:07 |
NakedFury |
another was a hell world |
| 03:07 |
NakedFury |
no Sweetcraft |
| 03:07 |
NakedFury |
a creative world |
| 03:07 |
OldCoder |
A Lobby port |
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| 03:08 |
NakedFury |
but the problem is that MC uses too much ram so having that many worlds and its plugin to make them different was hell |
| 03:08 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, I don't seem to have the problem with MT |
| 03:09 |
NakedFury |
MT at least doesnt have that kind of problem |
| 03:10 |
NakedFury |
what was the web that you have with all the worlds info? |
| 03:10 |
VanessaE |
NakedFury: try running it with high resolution textures and lots of mods. MT is a serious RAM hog. |
| 03:11 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, one moment |
| 03:11 |
OldCoder |
http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/ |
| 03:12 |
OldCoder |
World list and screenshots ^ |
| 03:12 |
OldCoder |
Plus mods etc. |
| 03:12 |
OldCoder |
I added teleporters today BTW as RBA asked for them |
| 03:12 |
OldCoder |
|
| 03:12 |
OldCoder |
Oh... |
| 03:12 |
OldCoder |
I can rebuild all the worlds with updated mods |
| 03:12 |
OldCoder |
in moments now |
| 03:12 |
OldCoder |
|
| 03:12 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: you should take a screenshot for skyblock using my little village :-) |
| 03:12 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, You take one |
| 03:12 |
OldCoder |
Do it now |
| 03:12 |
OldCoder |
I'll add it |
| 03:13 |
VanessaE |
too lazy :D |
| 03:13 |
OldCoder |
O.K. |
| 03:13 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, what are the coords? |
| 03:13 |
VanessaE |
besides you'd need fly/fast to get to a spot where a screenshot would look good |
| 03:13 |
VanessaE |
um, lemme check |
| 03:13 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I turned on fast |
| 03:13 |
VanessaE |
30002 right? |
| 03:14 |
NekoGloop |
She has a village? |
| 03:14 |
NekoGloop |
Oh wait that layered thing... Nvm. |
| 03:14 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, yes |
| 03:14 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: {3392,4,3200} |
| 03:14 |
OldCoder |
O.K. |
| 03:14 |
NekoGloop |
Anyone else started building down yet? |
| 03:15 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: I did, but just barely |
| 03:15 |
VanessaE |
just enough to get under where I built my tower so i could lower the water stop one level |
| 03:15 |
NekoGloop |
I have a whole "basement" level. |
| 03:15 |
OldCoder |
Hey that's nice |
| 03:15 |
NekoGloop |
Go look at my "basement" if you like |
| 03:16 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, coords |
| 03:16 |
NekoGloop |
Uh... |
| 03:16 |
NekoGloop |
Vanessae, show him to my underlayer. |
| 03:16 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: now you see why my area needs fly priv to take a good screenshot of :-) |
| 03:16 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: after he takes a screenshot, I'll sign back in and show him to it |
| 03:17 |
OldCoder |
yes |
| 03:17 |
VanessaE |
(I don't want to mar the image by my being in it) |
| 03:17 |
OldCoder |
This is nice |
| 03:17 |
OldCoder |
Hold on a bit |
| 03:17 |
OldCoder |
I think the round trees help |
| 03:18 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: too bad they don't work right on old maps :-/ |
| 03:18 |
NekoGloop |
Lolipop trees? |
| 03:18 |
VanessaE |
(yet another bug in the game: 3dforniture's round trees turn black on old maps until you interact with them or with the ground near them) |
| 03:19 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I have a fix for that |
| 03:19 |
NekoGloop |
Oh right. |
| 03:19 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, That should not happen in my worlds |
| 03:19 |
OldCoder |
Let me know if it does |
| 03:19 |
VanessaE |
yeah I know, tonyka posted a little thingy to fix it |
| 03:19 |
OldCoder |
I added it |
| 03:19 |
OldCoder |
<--- thorough |
| 03:19 |
NakedFury |
atlas full on 30000 server |
| 03:19 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, that is appearing on every world |
| 03:19 |
NekoGloop |
Disable it. |
| 03:19 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, How? |
| 03:19 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, VanessaE also where is NekoGloop place? |
| 03:20 |
NekoGloop |
Uh, it's client side. |
| 03:20 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
| 03:20 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, VanessaE also where is NekoGloop place? |
| 03:20 |
NekoGloop |
Uh... |
| 03:21 |
NekoGloop |
Look around. |
| 03:21 |
NekoGloop |
:D |
| 03:21 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: looking for it |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: {3325, -1, 3315} |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
that's the under side layer, took a while to find the entrance :-) |
| 03:23 |
NekoGloop |
Lol |
| 03:23 |
NekoGloop |
It couldnt be much more obvious. |
| 03:24 |
NekoGloop |
Unless there happens to be seaweed covering it again. |
| 03:24 |
VanessaE |
ok ok so it's buried around a bunch of papyrus and seaweed :-) |
| 03:24 |
NakedFury |
hmm we need desert stone or sandstone ore versions |
| 03:24 |
NekoGloop |
XD |
| 03:24 |
NekoGloop |
NakedFury: Desert stone ores are in gloopores. |
| 03:24 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: you can combat that by placing a few torches around the area and then digging up the seaweed. |
| 03:24 |
VanessaE |
it won't grow if there's too much light. |
| 03:24 |
NekoGloop |
Sandstone doesnt generate in mapgen. |
| 03:25 |
OldCoder |
|
| 03:25 |
OldCoder |
O.K. |
| 03:26 |
VanessaE |
ok, I'm signed off, you can take yer screenshots now :) |
| 03:26 |
OldCoder |
Already did |
| 03:26 |
OldCoder |
Vanessa Village gets posted in a couple of minutes |
| 03:26 |
OldCoder |
We can do |
| 03:26 |
OldCoder |
a full gallery later |
| 03:27 |
OldCoder |
What is this thing? |
| 03:27 |
OldCoder |
A basement. |
| 03:27 |
NekoGloop |
"UnderLayer" |
| 03:27 |
VanessaE |
yup |
| 03:27 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 03:27 |
OldCoder |
NekoGloop, UnderLayer is nice |
| 03:27 |
OldCoder |
But I'm shooting the OverLayer |
| 03:28 |
OldCoder |
It's amazing |
| 03:28 |
NekoGloop |
That's actually realbadangel |
| 03:28 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 03:30 |
OldCoder |
What is it exactly |
| 03:30 |
OldCoder |
RBA place |
| 03:30 |
NekoGloop |
Its... Everywhere. |
| 03:30 |
NekoGloop |
XD |
| 03:31 |
OldCoder |
Updating soon |
| 03:33 |
NakedFury |
woah awesome circular tree not blocks |
| 03:33 |
NekoGloop |
3dforniture. |
| 03:33 |
OldCoder |
Yep |
| 03:34 |
OldCoder |
*With* the tree repair kit |
| 03:34 |
VanessaE |
NekoGloop: you should see them with HDX applied, they're gorgeous |
| 03:34 |
khonkhortisan |
if you dig all the wood part of a tree except the bottom stump, you end up with a floating layer of leaves that don't decay |
| 03:34 |
NekoGloop |
Ick. |
| 03:35 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: I think leafdecay just checks within like a 4 node radius whether there's a tree, even if it isn't the same one that spawned the leaves |
| 03:35 |
OldCoder |
Explain HDX |
| 03:35 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: my photorealistic textures. http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1583 |
| 03:35 |
OldCoder |
Are they in a mod yet? |
| 03:35 |
OldCoder |
Will review thread |
| 03:36 |
VanessaE |
they're not a mod, they're a texture pack intended for use by clients |
| 03:36 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
| 03:36 |
OldCoder |
No way to install on server? |
| 03:36 |
khonkhortisan |
Do I have to delete stuff to install a texture pack or does it install like a mod? |
| 03:36 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, can I unpack them on the server side? |
| 03:36 |
VanessaE |
you can I think, but I dunno how server-side textures work |
| 03:37 |
VanessaE |
plus I don't know that I can safely recommend them, since you need decent gfx hardware to use the, |
| 03:37 |
VanessaE |
them* |
| 03:37 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 03:39 |
khonkhortisan |
leafdecay should check if there is a leaf path to tree, instead of a nearby tree, to keep it from floating |
| 03:41 |
khonkhortisan |
http://www.flickr.com/photos/79516830@N05/8049321563/in/photostream/lightbox/ |
| 03:41 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, others: khonkhortisan, others: Press Reload to see updated page |
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| 03:42 |
VanessaE |
\o/ |
| 03:43 |
OldCoder |
:-) |
| 03:49 |
OldCoder |
One thing that I could add would be whatever the best of the old 0.3 worlds was. Run it forever as a museum. If somebody has a good world ZIP it up and get it to me. |
| 03:49 |
OldCoder |
Indicate exactly which 0.3.X is needed and include compatible mods if any. |
| 03:49 |
OldCoder |
|
| 03:55 |
VanessaE |
mods don't work in 0.3.x |
| 03:55 |
OldCoder |
That simplifies things |
| 03:55 |
OldCoder |
If somebody saved the best 0.3.X world have them ZIP it for me |
| 03:55 |
cornernote |
<khonkhortisan> leaf path to tree --- -1 |
| 03:56 |
cornernote |
then you would end up with leaves from nearby trees not decaying |
| 04:00 |
khonkhortisan |
it should have a combination of both methods. I just don't want it to hover. |
| 04:00 |
cornernote |
ah, i see |
| 04:01 |
cornernote |
so whats everyone working on ? |
| 04:01 |
cornernote |
playing on |
| 04:01 |
cornernote |
whatever =) |
| 04:01 |
VanessaE |
nothing at the moment |
| 04:01 |
VanessaE |
just finished watching a movie |
| 04:05 |
OldCoder |
khonkhortisan, the #khonkhortisan channel is just as real! |
| 04:07 |
khonkhortisan |
I think I'll keep that one open |
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jordan4ibanez |
cornernote, line 25 of workbench, you forgot the "then" to the "if" |
| 04:09 |
cornernote |
thanks, fixed |
| 04:09 |
jordan4ibanez |
and there's still the issue of, when you try to get more than one thing out of the output box, it doesn't update like the normal inventory |
| 04:09 |
jordan4ibanez |
so you can only pull one thing out at a time, it's strange |
| 04:09 |
cornernote |
let me try |
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| 04:11 |
VanessaE |
hi RBA |
| 04:11 |
RealBadAngel |
hi |
| 04:11 |
jordan4ibanez |
good day |
| 04:12 |
cornernote |
ok, i see |
| 04:12 |
cornernote |
when you make sticks from wood, and you want to right click to take the whole stack |
| 04:12 |
cornernote |
right click takes half the stack |
| 04:12 |
cornernote |
then the other half is lost |
| 04:13 |
jordan4ibanez |
see? the mod is so glitchy i don't understand |
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cornernote |
the players formspec is in c++, this is in lua .. im reading the c++ to see if i can see how it allows a right click to take the whole stack |
| 04:22 |
cornernote |
ok, it seems to have 2 fields... craftpreview and craftresult |
| 04:22 |
cornernote |
and one is hidden from view |
| 04:22 |
cornernote |
leave it with me for a bit |
| 04:24 |
OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, Check webpage |
| 04:25 |
RealBadAngel |
ok |
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| 04:35 |
khonkhortisan |
why can I only throw my pickaxe when I'm looking at something? |
| 04:41 |
MiJyn |
because it would be too dangerous if you are not looking at what you are throwing at |
| 04:42 |
MiJyn |
imagine being the person receiving it... ugh... |
| 04:42 |
VanessaE |
yay, another homedecor update. Now a fridge stands 2 nodes tall and has a 10x5 inventory space. |
| 04:43 |
VanessaE |
no more stupid workaround of stackign two up :-) |
| 04:43 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, Shall I update? |
| 04:43 |
OldCoder |
Is it nice and stable? |
| 04:43 |
OldCoder |
Sturdy and reliable? |
| 04:44 |
VanessaE |
go ahead, it seems fine here. |
| 04:45 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 04:46 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I wrote scripts just for this :-) They now handle all the mo\ds |
| 04:46 |
OldCoder |
*mods |
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| 04:47 |
VanessaE |
nice |
| 04:50 |
OldCoder |
Worlds get rebuilt shortly with new homedecor and a teleporter configuration change. anybody want more mods or stuff? |
| 04:50 |
OldCoder |
No other major updates recently? |
| 04:50 |
OldCoder |
Very well |
| 04:50 |
OldCoder |
<--- Throws the off switch |
| 04:50 |
OldCoder |
Servers down |
| 04:52 |
OldCoder |
Servers up |
| 04:52 |
OldCoder |
All worlds are rebuilt and shiny |
| 04:52 |
OldCoder |
Check teleporter config and home decor |
| 04:56 |
VanessaE |
server's slow today. media download is taking a while. |
| 04:57 |
OldCoder |
I don't think it's the servers per se |
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| 04:57 |
OldCoder |
Mika_R, wb |
| 04:57 |
VanessaE |
looks right to me |
| 04:57 |
OldCoder |
Then chill |
| 04:57 |
OldCoder |
with a beer |
| 04:57 |
Mika_R |
hi |
| 04:57 |
OldCoder |
From your virtual fridge |
| 04:57 |
VanessaE |
beer? ick |
| 04:57 |
OldCoder |
O.K. |
| 04:57 |
OldCoder |
A nice cola |
| 04:57 |
OldCoder |
Frosty |
| 04:57 |
VanessaE |
Mike's Hard Lemonade. :-) |
| 04:57 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
| 04:58 |
VanessaE |
(or really any decent wine cooler) |
| 04:58 |
Mika_R |
VanessaE, got any idea what you will add next to home decor? |
| 04:58 |
VanessaE |
dunno |
| 05:00 |
OldCoder |
Wine cooler obviously |
| 05:01 |
VanessaE |
I don't have any immediate plans to add more, this was just a revision that I just realized how ot do easily :-) |
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| 05:11 |
VanessaE |
OldCoder: can you do me a favor? |
| 05:11 |
OldCoder |
Sure |
| 05:12 |
VanessaE |
Mika_R, RealBadAngel, you guys too - download the latest update, try it out in singleplayer mode, tell me if you have any problems using the fridge |
| 05:17 |
Mika_R |
how do i give myself all privs in singleplayer? |
| 05:17 |
khonkhortisan |
Do the drawers work? |
| 05:17 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 05:18 |
VanessaE |
If it can store something in real life normally, it has inventory in homedecor now |
| 05:18 |
khonkhortisan |
I mean does the drawer come out as a node box |
| 05:18 |
VanessaE |
nightstands store 8 or 16 slots, a cabinet/cupboard is 24 I think, under-sink is 16, fridge is 50 |
| 05:18 |
VanessaE |
etc. |
| 05:18 |
VanessaE |
OH |
| 05:18 |
VanessaE |
no not yet |
| 05:18 |
VanessaE |
didn't see a point in that |
| 05:18 |
VanessaE |
it sticks out a tiny bit just for 3d detail |
| 05:18 |
VanessaE |
but it doesn't slide out |
| 05:19 |
khonkhortisan |
the digging animation is copied |
| 05:19 |
VanessaE |
besides, can you even do that with a node? have it change while the object's inventory is open? |
| 05:19 |
khonkhortisan |
haha image corruption when I dig the tv, I think that's the kind of thing you can't do anything about |
| 05:19 |
VanessaE |
yep I know about that |
| 05:19 |
VanessaE |
3dforniture has the same bug when you dig one of its torches |
| 05:20 |
khonkhortisan |
I want to run a function on right click instead of opening a menu. Haven't figured it out. |
| 05:20 |
khonkhortisan |
let's just call that the channel guide |
| 05:20 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 05:20 |
khonkhortisan |
How do you make the fridge have a 2x1 digging animation? |
| 05:20 |
VanessaE |
I don't. |
| 05:21 |
VanessaE |
it's a single nodebox that stands 2x tall |
| 05:21 |
VanessaE |
so it's whatever the game does in that case |
| 05:22 |
khonkhortisan |
I can see the tv through the door of the fridge, you should make a thicker door |
| 05:22 |
khonkhortisan |
it's doing that z-fighting thing |
| 05:23 |
VanessaE |
wha? |
| 05:23 |
VanessaE |
*confused* |
| 05:23 |
VanessaE |
I know what the z-fighting is, but I don't understand what you mean |
| 05:23 |
khonkhortisan |
①place tv ② place tv on tv ③ dig first tv ④ place fridge where tv was dug ⑤ watch tv through fridge door |
| 05:23 |
VanessaE |
oh weird! |
| 05:23 |
VanessaE |
it isn't supposed to do that |
| 05:23 |
VanessaE |
I'll fix it. |
| 05:24 |
khonkhortisan |
I dig the tv before the fridge |
| 05:24 |
khonkhortisan |
I like the effect of a torched fridge |
| 05:25 |
khonkhortisan |
yuck place the fridge on the ceiling, it goes through the roof |
| 05:26 |
khonkhortisan |
lava fridge! |
| 05:26 |
Mika_R |
VanessaE, didn't get anything to work |
| 05:26 |
khonkhortisan |
I died while looking in a drawer, and the menu isn't going away |
| 05:26 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: that's a game bug, I don't know how to fix it |
| 05:26 |
khonkhortisan |
I put stuff in the drawer using my past life, then I could get the menu to move |
| 05:27 |
khonkhortisan |
cool I can stand on the top of the fridge while there's lava coming out of it |
| 05:28 |
khonkhortisan |
hey fences give you a path through lava |
| 05:29 |
VanessaE |
jeez gimme a sec to figure this out |
| 05:30 |
VanessaE |
I need to check for the presence of air above the node to be placed before allowing placement of the fridge. how? |
| 05:30 |
khonkhortisan |
I can make a lava tunnel with fences |
| 05:32 |
jin_xi |
sssup guysss? |
| 05:33 |
khonkhortisan |
Wooden Privacy Fence stacked two high will give you a tunnel through lava, that's wassup. |
| 05:33 |
VanessaE |
bbl while I figure out a fix. |
| 05:33 |
khonkhortisan |
And fridges will be bug-cleaned |
| 05:34 |
jin_xi |
yeah yeah lava tunnels. it sounds dwarfey |
| 05:34 |
khonkhortisan |
ambience mod reminds me of simcity |
| 05:35 |
khonkhortisan |
you can walk through the dual node tunnel, no need to surround yourself with glass |
| 05:39 |
khonkhortisan |
I'll just make a table out of a small throw rug. No one will notice! |
| 05:39 |
VanessaE |
ok dammit, how do I delete a node from the world and just put it back into the player's inventory? |
| 05:40 |
khonkhortisan |
copy the default on_dig? |
| 05:40 |
Mika_R |
VanessaE, what are you building at 1215 / 535 -> 1350 / 666 on redcrabs? |
| 05:40 |
VanessaE |
Mika_R: no |
| 05:41 |
VanessaE |
I only build around my home, and if I see something that needs repaired. |
| 05:41 |
Mika_R |
you own a protect over at those coords |
| 05:42 |
khonkhortisan |
what would tell the node to go in the inventory? My rubiks cube manages 3³ nodes being removed my a single dig. |
| 05:42 |
VanessaE |
mika: I shouldn't.. I haven't registered any protections anywhere except my home area. |
| 05:44 |
Mika_R |
you have rights to neuros house project? |
| 05:44 |
khonkhortisan |
If you're talking about the fridge being two nodes, you just make both nodes drop the fridge item, and the one that is dug removes the other node. |
| 05:47 |
Mika_R |
now i found it, it is neuros area |
| 05:47 |
khonkhortisan |
is there a find radius function where I can make sure all the nearby nodes are what I'm looking for, instead of just one? |
| 05:47 |
khonkhortisan |
Mika_R, The one that says arena on the top in yellow? |
| 05:47 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: the fridge is a single node. |
| 05:48 |
Mika_R |
i guess no, its his newest project, that big cobble |
| 05:48 |
VanessaE |
Mika_R: neuro added me as an owner to that area, I forgot. |
| 05:48 |
VanessaE |
oh G*d damn it how does this work? |
| 05:48 |
VanessaE |
after_place_node = function(pos, placer) |
| 05:48 |
VanessaE |
node = minetest.env:get_node(pos) |
| 05:48 |
VanessaE |
ntop = minetest.env:get_node({x=pos.x, y=pos.y+1, z=pos.z}) |
| 05:48 |
VanessaE |
if ntop.name ~= "air" then minetest.node_dig(pos, node, placer) end |
| 05:48 |
VanessaE |
end, |
| 05:48 |
khonkhortisan |
whose railroad is it? I've been gone a week and I forgot the person's name |
| 05:48 |
VanessaE |
what is wrong with this code? |
| 05:49 |
VanessaE |
(the node_dig calls for 'digger' and not 'placer'...shouldn't those be the same?) |
| 05:50 |
Mika_R |
ok |
| 05:50 |
khonkhortisan |
I'd expect there to be a can_place function |
| 05:51 |
VanessaE |
nope. |
| 05:52 |
khonkhortisan |
dig_node doesn't have a digger |
| 05:52 |
khonkhortisan |
minetest.node_dig? minetest.env:dig_node? |
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| 05:52 |
RealBadAngel |
player, placer, digger whatever you call it |
| 05:52 |
RealBadAngel |
its the same |
| 05:52 |
VanessaE |
*facepalm* |
| 05:54 |
VanessaE |
if I try to print the value of 'placer' it crashes the server. |
| 05:54 |
khonkhortisan |
placer is an object |
| 05:54 |
VanessaE |
http://pastebin.com/czqWf9v9 |
| 05:54 |
VanessaE |
an object containing....what? |
| 05:55 |
khonkhortisan |
"ObeectRef" line 1080 |
| 05:55 |
VanessaE |
why is this shit not documented? |
| 05:55 |
khonkhortisan |
that used to be spelled correctly |
| 05:55 |
khonkhortisan |
print(placer:get_player_name()) |
| 05:56 |
VanessaE |
trying... |
| 05:56 |
VanessaE |
attempt to call method 'get_player_name' (a nil value) |
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| 05:58 |
khonkhortisan |
is_player()? |
| 05:58 |
khonkhortisan |
placer.get_player_name()? |
| 05:58 |
VanessaE |
trying it. |
| 05:58 |
VanessaE |
see, this is why I say the API doc is a travesty |
| 05:59 |
khonkhortisan |
I use on_punch = function(pos, node, puncher) and minetest.chat_send_player(puncher:get_player_name(),… |
| 05:59 |
VanessaE |
bad argument #1 to 'get_player_name' (userdata expected, got no value) |
| 05:59 |
khonkhortisan |
so your placer is bad? |
| 06:01 |
khonkhortisan |
What if the server is really lagging and I can split a stack of items, filling the spot where the fridge was, before the fridge can jump back in my hand? Have I just lost it by placing it? |
| 06:01 |
VanessaE |
khonkhortisan: http://pastebin.com/fYAxZ9Xc |
| 06:01 |
khonkhortisan |
use a : |
| 06:01 |
VanessaE |
well if the API allowed me to run some code just *before* the node is placed instead of after. |
| 06:01 |
VanessaE |
I tried with a : |
| 06:01 |
khonkhortisan |
that's how I have it, and it should work that way |
| 06:02 |
VanessaE |
attempt to call method 'get_player_name' (a nil value) |
| 06:02 |
VanessaE |
maybe that method can't be called from inside a node def |
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khonkhortisan |
I call :get_player_name() from on_punch, that wouldn't be it |
| 06:05 |
* VanessaE |
tries it a different way |
| 06:06 |
RealBadAngel |
try print(dump(something)) |
| 06:07 |
khonkhortisan |
after_place_node = function(pos, placer) print(placer:get_player_name()) end, worksforme |
| 06:07 |
RealBadAngel |
then no matter nil or whatever it wont crash |
| 06:07 |
khonkhortisan |
it prints singleplayer |
| 06:09 |
khonkhortisan |
I think you're getting bad data |
| 06:09 |
VanessaE |
it's not placer:, it's player: player:get_player_name() |
| 06:10 |
VanessaE |
still doesn't work though |
| 06:10 |
khonkhortisan |
it works with placer too ^ my worksforme |
| 06:11 |
VanessaE |
ok by itself it works. |
| 06:16 |
VanessaE |
sigh |
| 06:17 |
VanessaE |
http://pastebin.com/3qv8bRKS |
| 06:17 |
khonkhortisan |
okay. |
| 06:18 |
* khonkhortisan |
*sighs* |
| 06:18 |
VanessaE |
wtf does it want for that digger parameter then? |
| 06:18 |
VanessaE |
(where I plugged in whoplacedit) |
| 06:18 |
khonkhortisan |
either the placer or the placer's name |
| 06:18 |
VanessaE |
why isn't this shit documented??? |
| 06:19 |
khonkhortisan |
then when you ask why it isn't documented you're told to read doc/lua_api.txt |
| 06:19 |
khonkhortisan |
that's why it isn't |
| 06:19 |
khonkhortisan |
like the a.b vs. a:b I still don't think it's in there |
| 06:20 |
jin_xi |
khonkhortisan: its a lua thing, why document it in minetests api |
| 06:20 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, I'll update tomorrow |
| 06:20 |
OldCoder |
Zzz |
| 06:22 |
khonkhortisan |
because lua isn't the language of the game, but of the mods. You wouldn't have to document the language if someone's going to edit the game, but modding is usually a lower difficulty and could use being easier to learn. Or something like that. |
| 06:24 |
jin_xi |
VanessaE: can you paste the whole code so i can try for myself? I'll have a look at it if you like |
| 06:25 |
VanessaE |
sec. |
| 06:25 |
VanessaE |
http://pastebin.com/8Y10LwzA |
| 06:26 |
VanessaE |
crashes the server when you place the node. |
| 06:26 |
VanessaE |
(in this case, placing it just under a dirt block to force the node to be given back) |
| 06:29 |
VanessaE |
jin_xi: |
| 06:29 |
VanessaE |
singleplayer |
| 06:29 |
VanessaE |
node_dig |
| 06:29 |
VanessaE |
02:25:44: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer leaves game. List of players: |
| 06:29 |
VanessaE |
02:25:45: ERROR[main]: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...a/celeron55-minetest-9696ed3/bin/../builtin/item.lua:286: attempt to call method 'get_player_name' (a nil value) |
| 06:29 |
VanessaE |
02:25:45: ERROR[main]: stack traceback: |
| 06:29 |
VanessaE |
Quit message received. |
| 06:29 |
VanessaE |
that's the crash that happens with the code I just pastebin'd |
| 06:29 |
jin_xi |
hold on, im testing it... |
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| 06:32 |
khonkhortisan |
if the fridge crashes it's still there |
| 06:32 |
VanessaE |
yes, because it crashes when the dig_node() is executed. |
| 06:32 |
VanessaE |
because I haven't the faintest clue what the third parameter is supposed to contain |
| 06:33 |
khonkhortisan |
print(placer:get_player_name()) works but I think it's crashing when using whoplacedit |
| 06:33 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 06:34 |
VanessaE |
why can't there just be a simple, straightforward way to interrupt the placement of the node *before* it is placed? |
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| 06:35 |
khonkhortisan |
there's no good reason for there to not be an equivalent of can_dig |
| 06:35 |
khonkhortisan |
and PLEASE combine wallmounted and facedir |
| 06:35 |
RealBadAngel |
i think youre adressing it wrong, now it tells get_player_name method doesnt exists at all |
| 06:36 |
khonkhortisan |
get_player_name works just fine with print and storing in a variable unless you call node_dig |
| 06:36 |
VanessaE |
so then how do I just add an item to the player's inventory? |
| 06:36 |
VanessaE |
I'll just use remove_node() and then add it |
| 06:36 |
khonkhortisan |
placer:get_inventory() |
| 06:37 |
khonkhortisan |
then InvRef stuff like :add_item and :room_for_item |
| 06:45 |
jin_xi |
this works here: http://pastebin.com/ZUpQVWuV |
| 06:46 |
* VanessaE |
tries... |
| 06:47 |
VanessaE |
noit doesn't |
| 06:47 |
VanessaE |
the player doesn't get the item back. it gets destroyed. |
| 06:47 |
jin_xi |
well, of course |
| 06:47 |
jin_xi |
you have to add it back to placers inventory too if you want that to happen |
| 06:48 |
VanessaE |
node_dig() is supposed to do that on its own. |
| 06:48 |
jin_xi |
but it should not crash as it is, is that the case? |
| 06:48 |
VanessaE |
it does not crash now |
| 06:48 |
* jin_xi |
checks api docs |
| 06:49 |
jin_xi |
- dig_node(pos) ^ Dig node with the same effects that a player would cause |
| 06:49 |
jin_xi |
this one? oh |
| 06:49 |
VanessaE |
let's try it.. |
| 06:50 |
VanessaE |
nope. |
| 06:50 |
VanessaE |
dig_node() crashes it. |
| 06:50 |
VanessaE |
oops. |
| 06:50 |
VanessaE |
wait |
| 06:51 |
VanessaE |
bingo! |
| 06:51 |
VanessaE |
has to be minetest.env:dig_node() |
| 06:51 |
VanessaE |
no wait |
| 06:51 |
VanessaE |
it's not giving it back to the player most of the time |
| 06:52 |
VanessaE |
(or at all it seems like) |
| 06:53 |
VanessaE |
"same effects that a player would cause" evidently doesn't include the player's own inventory. |
| 06:53 |
VanessaE |
*grumble* |
| 07:01 |
VanessaE |
so again, how exactly do I add an item to the player's inventory? |
| 07:01 |
VanessaE |
where is that function defined *in English* in the API? |
| 07:01 |
RealBadAngel |
create item stack |
| 07:01 |
RealBadAngel |
with 1 item in it, dig the node |
| 07:01 |
RealBadAngel |
add it to inv |
| 07:02 |
VanessaE |
how? The API is about as clear as mud on this |
| 07:02 |
RealBadAngel |
player:get_inventory():add_item("main", item_to_add) |
| 07:04 |
VanessaE |
03:03:58: ERROR[main]: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...6ed3/bin/../mods/minetest/homedecor/refrigerator.lua:48: attempt to index global 'player' (a nil value) |
| 07:07 |
RealBadAngel |
replace player with placer or whatever player is called there |
| 07:08 |
VanessaE |
no crash when using 'placer', but it doesn't add to the inventory. |
| 07:08 |
VanessaE |
placer:get_inventory():add_item("main", "homedecor:refrigerator") |
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| 07:08 |
RealBadAngel |
not by the name |
| 07:08 |
RealBadAngel |
you have to create itemstack |
| 07:09 |
VanessaE |
how? |
| 07:09 |
Mika_R |
VanessaE, how does the code function of refrigerator differ from nightstand? |
| 07:09 |
RealBadAngel |
a sec |
| 07:09 |
Mika_R |
-code |
| 07:09 |
VanessaE |
mika: about the same except a fridge has a larger inventory and stands two nodes tall. |
| 07:10 |
Mika_R |
why 2 nodes tall? |
| 07:10 |
VanessaE |
mika: because refrigerators are usually a lot taller than a nightstand? :-) |
| 07:11 |
tripod |
bar fridge |
| 07:11 |
tripod |
quite small |
| 07:11 |
VanessaE |
tripod: true. |
| 07:12 |
tripod |
VanessaE: i concur |
| 07:12 |
tripod |
i thnk |
| 07:12 |
tripod |
:( |
| 07:12 |
Mika_R |
true, but usually they are fridge and refrigerator, but if they were made 1 node, you could stack them 2, and still have possibility to a minibar or something like that |
| 07:13 |
tripod |
a complete bar with wine rack would be nice. |
| 07:13 |
VanessaE |
they were one node before. didn't like it that way, but maybe I'll add in a mini fridge later. |
| 07:13 |
tripod |
and a mob waitress |
| 07:14 |
RealBadAngel |
stack = ItemStack("homedecor:refrigerator") |
| 07:14 |
RealBadAngel |
that should work |
| 07:14 |
RealBadAngel |
placer:get_inventory():add_item("main", stack) |
| 07:15 |
VanessaE |
nope, no good |
| 07:15 |
VanessaE |
(doesn't crash, but also doesn't add to the inventory) |
| 07:15 |
RealBadAngel |
stack = ItemStack("homedecor:refrigerator 1") |
| 07:15 |
RealBadAngel |
? |
| 07:15 |
Mika_R |
VanessaE, is there any other mod that is 2 node high? |
| 07:15 |
VanessaE |
doors |
| 07:16 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: nope. |
| 07:16 |
VanessaE |
stack = ItemStack("homedecor:refrigerator 1") |
| 07:16 |
VanessaE |
print(dump(stack)) |
| 07:16 |
VanessaE |
placer:get_inventory():add_item("main", stack) |
| 07:16 |
VanessaE |
<userdata> |
| 07:16 |
VanessaE |
(as the output of print() ) |
| 07:17 |
RealBadAngel |
to make it readeable to_table would be needed |
| 07:17 |
VanessaE |
ok well print() aside, it still isn't working :( |
| 07:20 |
RealBadAngel |
its working for me |
| 07:20 |
RealBadAngel |
on_punch = function (pos, node, puncher) |
| 07:20 |
RealBadAngel |
stack = ItemStack("default:wood 1") |
| 07:20 |
RealBadAngel |
puncher:get_inventory():add_item("main", stack) |
| 07:20 |
RealBadAngel |
end, |
| 07:20 |
VanessaE |
http://pastebin.com/hxMNiiBU |
| 07:21 |
RealBadAngel |
i just made it for testing |
| 07:21 |
VanessaE |
when the item is placed it just disappears if there isn't room, but nothing is added to the inventory. |
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| 07:26 |
VanessaE |
maybe it just doesn't work in creative mode? because come to think of it, default wooden doors tdo the same thing |
| 07:27 |
RealBadAngel |
it does |
| 07:27 |
VanessaE |
place when there isn't enough space and the item is simply destroyed (and a message is printed saying it was out of room) |
| 07:27 |
RealBadAngel |
i managed to add anythin to the inv |
| 07:27 |
VanessaE |
nonono |
| 07:27 |
RealBadAngel |
no matter defined or not. |
| 07:27 |
VanessaE |
you're not listening |
| 07:27 |
VanessaE |
I'm trying to use the default built-in doors now |
| 07:27 |
VanessaE |
they use a similar method and are also being destroyed. |
| 07:27 |
tripod |
http://soundcloud.com/laberge/daft-punk-something-about-us-laberge-edit |
| 07:30 |
RealBadAngel |
VanessaE, have no glue why its not adding anythin for you. for me the code works as intended |
| 07:30 |
VanessaE |
what version of the game are you using? |
| 07:31 |
RealBadAngel |
043 |
| 07:31 |
VanessaE |
and did you try this inside an after_place_node callback? |
| 07:31 |
RealBadAngel |
i made it on_punch |
| 07:31 |
RealBadAngel |
i will try |
| 07:34 |
RealBadAngel |
after_place_node = function(pos, placer) |
| 07:34 |
RealBadAngel |
stack = ItemStack("technic:deployer_off 1") |
| 07:34 |
RealBadAngel |
placer:get_inventory():add_item("main", stack) |
| 07:34 |
RealBadAngel |
end, |
| 07:34 |
RealBadAngel |
works also ok |
| 07:35 |
VanessaE |
http://pastebin.com/BNAQ3RrN |
| 07:35 |
VanessaE |
there's where I stand right now. |
| 07:35 |
RealBadAngel |
after placin a chest i keep getting free deployer ;) |
| 07:35 |
VanessaE |
(I tried using ItemStack() as well, same difference) |
| 07:37 |
RealBadAngel |
hold on |
| 07:38 |
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| 07:39 |
RealBadAngel |
dunno whats going on |
| 07:39 |
RealBadAngel |
but your code works |
| 07:39 |
PilzAdam |
Helo everyone! |
| 07:39 |
VanessaE |
hi adam |
| 07:39 |
PilzAdam |
Tag der deutschen Einheit! |
| 07:39 |
RealBadAngel |
it keeps me addin undefinded refrigerator to the inv |
| 07:39 |
RealBadAngel |
i just copied your code to my chest and it works |
| 07:39 |
VanessaE |
oh boy |
| 07:40 |
RealBadAngel |
havent changed anythin |
| 07:40 |
RealBadAngel |
just pasted whole after_place |
| 07:40 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: ok try this: change the code so that it adds THAT chest to the inventory |
| 07:40 |
RealBadAngel |
ok |
| 07:40 |
VanessaE |
whatever chest you just copied the code into, make it add itself instead of a fridge |
| 07:40 |
VanessaE |
I'll bet it fails then |
| 07:41 |
jin_xi_ |
^ can confirm |
| 07:41 |
VanessaE |
jin_xi_: ? |
| 07:41 |
cornernote |
hey VanessaE, what you working on ? |
| 07:42 |
VanessaE |
cornernote: Trying to fix a bug in homedecor, but looks like I'm getting bitten by a bug in the game in exchange |
| 07:42 |
jin_xi_ |
i can confirm what you said, VanessaE |
| 07:42 |
cornernote |
whats a free deployer ? |
| 07:42 |
jin_xi_ |
i think the node should not be placed in the first place if there is no place for it... |
| 07:42 |
VanessaE |
jin_xi_: I agree, but there's no function or callback I can see in the API to let me do that |
| 07:43 |
RealBadAngel |
VanessaE, lol, yeah |
| 07:43 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: fails if you try to add the item that is itself calling that code? |
| 07:43 |
RealBadAngel |
looks like |
| 07:43 |
VanessaE |
figures. |
| 07:43 |
VanessaE |
so what's the workaround? |
| 07:44 |
cornernote |
can someone tell me how to replicate it ? |
| 07:44 |
RealBadAngel |
lemme think |
| 07:44 |
VanessaE |
short of placing one node and having it place a different one in its place |
| 07:44 |
cornernote |
sec, lemme dl the mod |
| 07:44 |
VanessaE |
cornernote: no. |
| 07:44 |
VanessaE |
I haven't pushed my latest attempt to fix it |
| 07:45 |
cornernote |
the pastebin ? |
| 07:45 |
VanessaE |
hang on. |
| 07:46 |
VanessaE |
there. |
| 07:46 |
VanessaE |
pull from github. |
| 07:46 |
VanessaE |
that code should, by all accounts, work perfectly, but it doesn't. |
| 07:47 |
VanessaE |
the same bug affects the game's default wooden doors as well as mine which are derived from that. |
| 07:51 |
PilzAdam |
NYAN-CAT!!! |
| 07:51 |
cornernote |
ok, its running |
| 07:51 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: where? |
| 07:51 |
cornernote |
VanessaE: whats the issue ? |
| 07:51 |
PilzAdam |
i have disabled all mapgen and then you can see nyancats much better |
| 07:52 |
VanessaE |
cornernote: ok. Place two blocks of dirt on the ground, one on top of the other. Dig out the bottom piece. Now place a door in the space between the ground and the floating dirt block. |
| 07:52 |
cornernote |
PilzAdam, i'd like to see nyanland mod working again |
| 07:52 |
cornernote |
flying nyancats, and you punch them and they drop mese |
| 07:52 |
PilzAdam |
(5,-104,-56) seed:3128423427964100425 |
| 07:53 |
VanessaE |
cornernote: what should happen is the door should just go back into your inventory. Instead, it is destroyed. Same for the fridge and the doors in my mod |
| 07:53 |
VanessaE |
and all of them explicitly check for enough space and re-add themselves to your inventory...except that doesn't work anymore |
| 07:53 |
VanessaE |
(apparently it used to when the doors mod was first written) |
| 07:56 |
cornernote |
ok, i see |
| 07:56 |
cornernote |
let me have a play |
| 07:56 |
cornernote |
code looks like it should work, but doesnt |
| 07:56 |
VanessaE |
yup. |
| 07:58 |
cornernote |
doors have the same issue |
| 07:58 |
VanessaE |
yup |
| 07:58 |
VanessaE |
as do homedecor's doors. |
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RealBadAngel |
got a solution ;) add broken fridge to the inventory and then repair it :) |
| 08:07 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 08:07 |
RealBadAngel |
isnt that by the way part of kinda anti-duplicating mechanism? |
| 08:08 |
cornernote |
fixed - https://gist.github.com/3825737 |
| 08:08 |
VanessaE |
on_place?? |
| 08:08 |
cornernote |
yea |
| 08:08 |
VanessaE |
I thought that was deprecated? |
| 08:09 |
cornernote |
no |
| 08:09 |
cornernote |
its kind of "before_place" |
| 08:09 |
jin_xi_ |
cool, was trying that, but missing important bits... |
| 08:09 |
cornernote |
API docs suck for describing it |
| 08:10 |
jin_xi_ |
forgot about just returning the function |
| 08:11 |
RealBadAngel |
it works at least |
| 08:11 |
VanessaE |
Ok, I'll still file a bug report, since other mods use after_place_node |
| 08:11 |
cornernote |
we should fix doors while we are thinking about this issue |
| 08:11 |
jin_xi_ |
i think we should setup a wikified version of the api reference with examples for everything... |
| 08:11 |
cornernote |
+1 |
| 08:11 |
RealBadAngel |
+101 |
| 08:11 |
cornernote |
where community can submit stuff |
| 08:12 |
RealBadAngel |
all of us know some bits |
| 08:12 |
cornernote |
then we will get really good examples |
| 08:12 |
VanessaE |
cornernote: YAY! thank you thank you thank you |
| 08:12 |
cornernote |
i been trying to keep track of gists/pastebins, etc |
| 08:12 |
cornernote |
when a good api would work |
| 08:12 |
cornernote |
VanessaE: welcome =) |
| 08:12 |
cornernote |
good api wiki i mean |
| 08:13 |
VanessaE |
changes pushed |
| 08:13 |
VanessaE |
+10000 regarding wiki API |
| 08:13 |
VanessaE |
as long as only trusted folks can edit it |
| 08:13 |
cornernote |
maybe we just make a wiki on github ? |
| 08:13 |
jin_xi_ |
trusted folks? |
| 08:13 |
jin_xi_ |
lol |
| 08:14 |
RealBadAngel |
whitelisted |
| 08:15 |
RealBadAngel |
you dont want another lm there, do you? |
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| 08:15 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/260 |
| 08:16 |
jin_xi_ |
VanessaE: why the issue? its not a problem, but user error imo |
| 08:16 |
RealBadAngel |
you shall point also that ANY other item can be added this way |
| 08:17 |
VanessaE |
no, it's still a bug because it affects some of the game's default code too |
| 08:17 |
RealBadAngel |
just not this one it affects |
| 08:17 |
RealBadAngel |
just self |
| 08:17 |
VanessaE |
for example, default doors e.g. zlpdoors. |
| 08:17 |
jin_xi_ |
cant use nodes own definition in its definition, i'd say. kinda to be expected. |
| 08:18 |
RealBadAngel |
youre not using definition |
| 08:18 |
jin_xi_ |
but trying to add a not yet registered node to an inv |
| 08:18 |
RealBadAngel |
??? |
| 08:19 |
RealBadAngel |
when i first check for air above etc etc |
| 08:19 |
jin_xi_ |
just saying, i dont think issue #260 is an issue. |
| 08:19 |
RealBadAngel |
youre sayin somethin is not yet registered? |
| 08:19 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
| 08:19 |
VanessaE |
well then it serves to point out a bug in the default doors code :-) |
| 08:21 |
jin_xi_ |
good oppurtunity for a small patch instead of an issue i'd say |
| 08:21 |
VanessaE |
good luck getting "a small patch" to be accepted upstream |
| 08:21 |
VanessaE |
c55 is in "ignore everyone" mode again. |
| 08:22 |
jin_xi_ |
look, if i think its not an issue, imagine how happy c55 will be about reading one and immediately closing it, infuriated |
| 08:23 |
VanessaE |
not my fault if he gets all butthurt over a well-intentioned bug report :-) |
| 08:24 |
cornernote |
doors code is really bad |
| 08:24 |
cornernote |
its still using the old register_on_placenode (depricated) way of doing it |
| 08:24 |
VanessaE |
yep I knoiw |
| 08:25 |
cornernote |
is it worth fixing it? or just use xdoors2 |
| 08:25 |
VanessaE |
well, |
| 08:25 |
cornernote |
let me check if that does it right |
| 08:25 |
VanessaE |
I use some of that code in my mod for my folding doors and fancy exterior door also |
| 08:25 |
VanessaE |
so if zlpdoors is messy, my code is too :-) |
| 08:25 |
VanessaE |
(on the other hand, my gates code is elegant and simple) |
| 08:25 |
cornernote |
your code was fine |
| 08:26 |
cornernote |
zlpdoors ? |
| 08:26 |
VanessaE |
nono, my "folding" doors = zlpdoors with new textures. |
| 08:26 |
VanessaE |
default doors = zlpdoors |
| 08:26 |
cornernote |
better than xdoors2 |
| 08:26 |
cornernote |
? |
| 08:26 |
cornernote |
oh |
| 08:26 |
VanessaE |
no, old |
| 08:26 |
cornernote |
ok |
| 08:27 |
cornernote |
xdoors is right as in it uses on_place() |
| 08:28 |
VanessaE |
xdoors2 is the best |
| 08:28 |
VanessaE |
imho it should replace default doors |
| 08:28 |
cornernote |
but i prefer using minetest.item_place_node instead of minetest.env:add_node |
| 08:29 |
cornernote |
because then the after place callback is called |
| 08:29 |
cornernote |
perhaps node_ownership wont work with xdoors2 |
| 08:30 |
VanessaE |
why wouldn't it? |
| 08:30 |
cornernote |
as in you can "door grief" |
| 08:30 |
cornernote |
cos it wont call the after place, only the on_construct |
| 08:30 |
VanessaE |
ah, see the API just doesn't make this clear enough |
| 08:30 |
cornernote |
perhaps it will work, im just saying that item_place_node() is better |
| 08:30 |
VanessaE |
and it's SO FUCKING HARD TO READ> |
| 08:30 |
cornernote |
yes |
| 08:30 |
VanessaE |
as in hard to parse out the text from the actual code |
| 08:31 |
cornernote |
once you read it 1000 times it gets easier |
| 08:31 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 08:31 |
cornernote |
theres 1500 lines of text in it |
| 08:31 |
cornernote |
and its not enough by about 5 times |
| 08:31 |
VanessaE |
should be easy to wikify it though, it does have a somewhat consistent markup |
| 08:31 |
cornernote |
who wants to write better docs ? |
| 08:32 |
cornernote |
wiki will help, but it needs a starting point |
| 08:32 |
cornernote |
need someone to put up the basic structure and main pages |
| 08:32 |
VanessaE |
I'd have thought the dev wiki would be the perfect place for it |
| 08:33 |
cornernote |
where is that ? |
| 08:33 |
VanessaE |
I mean ,the API you want your modding community to use is kinda sorta intimately tied into the development of the engine and its surrounding code |
| 08:33 |
VanessaE |
http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php |
| 08:33 |
cornernote |
i like docuwiki |
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PilzAdam |
https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/d2452ad428e659f95161251f9995bb90676054ae |
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* PilzAdam |
pokes VanessaE |
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RealBadAngel |
PilzAdam, can c youre doin some updates |
| 10:12 |
RealBadAngel |
downloadin it now |
| 10:13 |
PilzAdam |
steel doors |
| 10:14 |
RealBadAngel |
cool |
| 10:15 |
RealBadAngel |
animated water is a bit too fast dont ya think? |
| 10:15 |
PilzAdam |
its not by me |
| 10:15 |
PilzAdam |
ask the mod author |
| 10:16 |
RealBadAngel |
i guess too few animation frames |
| 10:16 |
RealBadAngel |
lemme check minecraft's animation with it |
| 10:16 |
PilzAdam |
it looks realy good if you use builtin_item mod with it |
| 10:17 |
PilzAdam |
because the flowing animation is nearly same speed as the flowing item |
| 10:20 |
RealBadAngel |
no, its not the frames |
| 10:20 |
RealBadAngel |
i got 32 frames animation and it runs fast as hell |
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| 10:31 |
RealBadAngel |
any way to adjust the speed? |
| 10:31 |
RealBadAngel |
mod code doesnt explain it at all |
| 10:33 |
PilzAdam |
https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/animatedfluids/init.lua#L5 <- length is the param |
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| 10:35 |
RealBadAngel |
found that |
| 10:36 |
RealBadAngel |
it checks viscosity somehow but result is way too fast for both water and lava |
| 10:37 |
PilzAdam |
maybe its a bug in your engine |
| 10:37 |
RealBadAngel |
dont think so |
| 10:37 |
PilzAdam |
for me it is same speed as pushed items in builtin_item mod |
| 10:38 |
RealBadAngel |
we had animated lava before |
| 10:38 |
RealBadAngel |
so i can compare speeds |
| 10:38 |
RealBadAngel |
new lava is twice as fast as old one |
| 10:39 |
RealBadAngel |
i think i know why |
| 10:40 |
RealBadAngel |
length=fluid.viscosity |
| 10:40 |
RealBadAngel |
logical, yes? but fluid.viscosity is nil |
| 10:40 |
RealBadAngel |
so it runs at MAX speed |
| 10:41 |
PilzAdam |
old lenght was 3.3; lava_visc is 7 |
| 10:42 |
RealBadAngel |
i played with variables and found out that bug when tried to multiply it by 2 |
| 10:42 |
RealBadAngel |
when you use predefined speeds its cool |
| 10:42 |
RealBadAngel |
yikes, flowin water again :) |
| 10:42 |
* VanessaE |
heads off to bed now. |
| 10:43 |
VanessaE |
night all, or something |
| 10:43 |
RealBadAngel |
night |
| 10:43 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, my doors mod in mt_game is easy to texture |
| 10:43 |
jin_xi_ |
sooo easy you can do it in yous sleep |
| 10:43 |
VanessaE |
xdoors2 was tough because it's measured in tenths, I'm used to sixteenths |
| 10:43 |
VanessaE |
damn metric folks anyway ;-) |
| 10:44 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 10:44 |
RealBadAngel |
PilzAdam, 2.0 factor for water is just cool and nice lookin |
| 10:45 |
PilzAdam |
i will put it directly into default |
| 10:45 |
RealBadAngel |
wait a sec |
| 10:46 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/default_water_animated.png |
| 10:47 |
RealBadAngel |
put it into textures/all |
| 10:47 |
RealBadAngel |
and run with length=2 |
| 10:51 |
RealBadAngel |
and? |
| 10:52 |
PilzAdam |
im testing wich lenght it should be |
| 10:53 |
PilzAdam |
1=same as builtin_item; 2=better looking |
| 10:53 |
PilzAdam |
i guess i have to change builtin_item |
| 10:57 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/water_animated/1/default_water_animated.png |
| 10:57 |
RealBadAngel |
check this one |
| 10:57 |
RealBadAngel |
thats COOL |
| 10:58 |
PilzAdam |
https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/c05a5b8a2e1f8f9ad777d51b3f0599de96e64431 |
| 10:58 |
PilzAdam |
new name is: default_water_flowing_animated.png |
| 10:58 |
PilzAdam |
same as lava |
| 10:59 |
RealBadAngel |
ok, whats about animated water source? |
| 10:59 |
PilzAdam |
dunno |
| 10:59 |
PilzAdam |
can you make textures? |
| 10:59 |
PilzAdam |
(16x16) |
| 10:59 |
RealBadAngel |
ofc |
| 11:00 |
RealBadAngel |
make the code, i will make textures both 16x and hd |
| 11:00 |
RealBadAngel |
hd i do have rdy |
| 11:01 |
RealBadAngel |
make it same way as lava source is animated |
| 11:01 |
RealBadAngel |
animation length shall be the same for flowing and source |
| 11:02 |
PilzAdam |
dunno |
| 11:03 |
RealBadAngel |
dunno what? |
| 11:04 |
PilzAdam |
the animation lenght |
| 11:04 |
PilzAdam |
i need textures first |
| 11:04 |
PilzAdam |
code is read |
| 11:04 |
PilzAdam |
(0.5 sec.) |
| 11:04 |
RealBadAngel |
test it on hd textures first |
| 11:04 |
RealBadAngel |
wait for upload |
| 11:04 |
PilzAdam |
i have lenght 2 for now |
| 11:06 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/water_animated/1/flowing.png |
| 11:06 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/water_animated/1/source.png |
| 11:06 |
RealBadAngel |
thats a set 128x |
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PilzAdam |
that is flowing |
| 11:07 |
PilzAdam |
but it should be source |
| 11:08 |
RealBadAngel |
you got 2 |
| 11:08 |
RealBadAngel |
source is also animated :) |
| 11:09 |
PilzAdam |
ooops.. i took the wrong |
| 11:10 |
PilzAdam |
source is realy nice |
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| 11:11 |
RealBadAngel |
uploading another textures |
| 11:12 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/water_animated/2/flowing.png |
| 11:12 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/water_animated/2/source.png |
| 11:12 |
RealBadAngel |
this one is even better i think |
| 11:14 |
PilzAdam |
its more realistic |
| 11:14 |
PilzAdam |
are you working on 16x16? |
| 11:15 |
RealBadAngel |
gimme the code to work on |
| 11:15 |
RealBadAngel |
i need source to be animated |
| 11:15 |
PilzAdam |
https://gist.github.com/3826440 |
| 11:16 |
PilzAdam |
change apsect_w and aspect_h to 16 |
| 11:16 |
RealBadAngel |
ok |
| 11:21 |
RealBadAngel |
added it |
| 11:22 |
RealBadAngel |
HOLY SHIT |
| 11:22 |
RealBadAngel |
it look great |
| 11:22 |
PilzAdam |
i. want. it. |
| 11:22 |
RealBadAngel |
i mean with the second set of textures |
| 11:22 |
RealBadAngel |
its fuckin awesome |
| 11:23 |
RealBadAngel |
now ocean is alive |
| 11:25 |
RealBadAngel |
btw its way too dark underwater |
| 11:26 |
PilzAdam |
no |
| 11:26 |
PilzAdam |
in the default game its way to light under water |
| 11:26 |
RealBadAngel |
i cant c a shit |
| 11:26 |
PilzAdam |
you can see about 2 nodes far |
| 11:26 |
PilzAdam |
working under water shouldnt be easy |
| 11:26 |
RealBadAngel |
nope, cant c nothin |
| 11:27 |
RealBadAngel |
even in a puddle in daylight |
| 11:31 |
RealBadAngel |
uploadin vid, you will see |
| 11:32 |
PilzAdam |
i will make it brighter |
| 11:32 |
PilzAdam |
but i need the animated water source first |
| 11:35 |
RealBadAngel |
workin on 16x, gonna take a while |
| 11:43 |
PilzAdam |
ark |
| 11:43 |
PilzAdam |
*afk |
| 11:50 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoMynx6xXkU&feature=plcp |
| 11:50 |
RealBadAngel |
freakin awesome |
| 12:01 |
RealBadAngel |
PilzAdam, u here? |
| 12:02 |
RealBadAngel |
i have some 16x water textures but theyre not mine |
| 12:02 |
RealBadAngel |
im fightin with my own but i dont like the results at all |
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* VanessaE |
peeks in...sleepless again |
| 12:04 |
RealBadAngel |
watch the vid VanessaE |
| 12:04 |
RealBadAngel |
water loooooooooooookin coooooool |
| 12:04 |
VanessaE |
saw it |
| 12:04 |
RealBadAngel |
any comments? |
| 12:05 |
VanessaE |
it looks beautiful :-) |
| 12:05 |
VanessaE |
now someone needs to do the same for HDX for me :-) |
| 12:06 |
VanessaE |
(transtion: I want to do the same but I'm too lazy) |
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RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/water_animated/3/source.png |
| 12:15 |
RealBadAngel |
http://realbadangel.pl/water_animated/3/flowing.png |
| 12:15 |
RealBadAngel |
these are 16x |
| 12:17 |
VanessaE |
nice |
| 12:17 |
RealBadAngel |
those are not mine |
| 12:17 |
RealBadAngel |
tried but i do suck when it comes to pixelize somethin |
| 12:18 |
RealBadAngel |
16x is not enough, hard to make somethin good lookin |
| 12:23 |
VanessaE |
well you know me, 512px or bust :-) |
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RealBadAngel |
hehe |
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RealBadAngel |
i do have mine 128x easy, from abandoned mc pack |
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* PilzAdam |
is back |
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VanessaE |
wb |
| 12:34 |
RealBadAngel |
PilzAdam, seen the vid? |
| 12:34 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
| 12:34 |
RealBadAngel |
noticed complete darkness when in water? |
| 12:34 |
PilzAdam |
i will change it |
| 12:35 |
RealBadAngel |
:) |
| 12:35 |
RealBadAngel |
but the effect is great anyway |
| 12:35 |
RealBadAngel |
and no noticeable lags at all |
| 12:36 |
RealBadAngel |
by the ocean i do have steady 60fps |
| 12:36 |
RealBadAngel |
with 128x textures of course |
| 12:41 |
PilzAdam |
https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/5ada7a52e579dc0e237f2d42f5d3be2b23ccbae3 and https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/67f8c41540136d198a530f89cfd015979fa769ae |
| 12:41 |
PilzAdam |
^ water looks realy nice now |
| 12:41 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 12:43 |
PilzAdam |
http://ompldr.org/vZnFqMw |
| 12:43 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, can you make animation for fire? |
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PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, can you make animated fire? |
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PilzAdam |
http://ompldr.org/vZnFqdw/panes.zip <- should i add these panes to my fork of Minetest_game? |
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PilzAdam |
jordan4ibanez, can you test the glass panes? http://ompldr.org/vZnFqdw/panes.zip |
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jordan4ibanez |
it works |
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PilzAdam |
should i add it to minetest_game? |
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jordan4ibanez |
well xpanes work a little better lol |
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PilzAdam |
xpanes is 100% MC copied |
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OldCoder |
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OldCoder |
NakedFury, wb |
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NakedFury |
hello |
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jordan4ibanez |
where is is_mvps_stopper located in mesecons?! |
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PilzAdam |
should i add instant dig of nodes to creative= |
| 14:48 |
PilzAdam |
? |
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jordan4ibanez |
yes |
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nyuszika7h |
jordan4ibanez, if you're on Linux, you could do > grep -R -F 'is_mvps_stopper' mesecons/ < ;) |
| 14:50 |
jordan4ibanez |
that's a good idea |
| 14:52 |
PilzAdam |
https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/9d9dc29d431a60d71b3e233295c1ba2257f94e3b |
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jordan4ibanez |
that's pretty cool |
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PilzAdam |
hi Jordach |
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Jordach |
hello Jordan |
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Jordach |
4ibanex |
| 15:00 |
Jordach |
o hai PilzAdam |
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OldCoder |
Jordach, wb |
| 15:02 |
Jordach |
hello OldCoder |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach, in my minetest_game are now: better water; better doors; instant dig in creative |
| 15:03 |
Jordach |
better water? |
| 15:04 |
PilzAdam |
test it |
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Jordach |
hello Calinou |
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Calinou |
hi |
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NakedFury |
pilzadam where in the forums is you version? |
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OldCoder |
PilzAdam, may I ask you if your fork has nice features? Also do you have a world built up yet? |
| 15:11 |
PilzAdam |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3119 |
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OldCoder |
Reviewing |
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NakedFury |
we need a Game section |
| 15:12 |
NakedFury |
for total conversions of the game |
| 15:12 |
Jordach |
+1 |
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NakedFury |
like skyblock |
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OldCoder |
PilzAdam, shouldn't some of that be merged into main? |
| 15:12 |
NakedFury |
pilzadam stuff |
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PilzAdam |
OldCoder, everything |
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Jordach |
nope |
| 15:13 |
Jordach |
it must be re-named to adam's game |
| 15:13 |
Jordach |
and make a healing item called pilz |
| 15:13 |
Jordach |
;) |
| 15:13 |
OldCoder |
Oh wait |
| 15:13 |
OldCoder |
This is minetest_game and not MT |
| 15:13 |
OldCoder |
I can host this |
| 15:13 |
Calinou |
<NakedFury> we need a Game section |
| 15:14 |
Calinou |
just put the topics in mod releases with [Game] prefix |
| 15:14 |
Calinou |
that'll do |
| 15:14 |
OldCoder |
PilzAdam, do you have a world built up yet using this? |
| 15:14 |
PilzAdam |
no |
| 15:14 |
OldCoder |
Ok |
| 15:14 |
PilzAdam |
just some dev worlds |
| 15:14 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 15:15 |
PilzAdam |
forum post updated |
| 15:16 |
Calinou |
"New Punching flammable nodes with a torch will set them on fire" |
| 15:16 |
Calinou |
griefing made easy... |
| 15:16 |
Calinou |
;_; |
| 15:16 |
Calinou |
do that with lava :P |
| 15:21 |
NakedFury |
testing adams version |
| 15:21 |
PilzAdam |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3239 |
| 15:23 |
Jordach |
what does modpack.txt actually do? |
| 15:23 |
PilzAdam |
say the engine that the subfolders are mods |
| 15:25 |
Jordach |
someone never reads http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=45907#p45907 - Calinou, close it |
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| 15:29 |
Jordach |
[16:16:02] <Calinou> "New Punching flammable nodes with a torch will set them on fire" /me always makes cobble house# |
| 15:50 |
PilzAdam |
gtg |
| 15:50 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
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| 15:52 |
Jordach |
OldCoder, pc restarted |
| 15:53 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, all right |
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* Jordach |
dislikes removing software...some can contain reboots :( |
| 15:58 |
Zilvarael |
OldCoder: Jordach, All systems are go! :D <--- Unrelevent.. |
| 15:58 |
OldCoder |
All right |
| 15:58 |
Zilvarael |
Jordach: Linux or Winblows? |
| 15:58 |
Jordach |
you sound so much like Basstard` |
| 15:59 |
FreeFull |
Meanwhile in Linux land... you don't need to reboot when installing or removing software unless you're updating your kernel |
| 15:59 |
Jordach |
lol..crappy kernel |
| 15:59 |
OldCoder |
FreeFull, depends |
| 15:59 |
OldCoder |
But yes; more flexible |
| 15:59 |
FreeFull |
OldCoder: Depends? |
| 15:59 |
OldCoder |
FreeFull, the need to reboot will depend on the context |
| 16:00 |
Zilvarael |
FreeFull: Linux used to make you reboot to ensure software installed. However I find it very nice that it no longer makes you do that. |
| 16:00 |
OldCoder |
It is less common but reboots are still needed on occasion |
| 16:00 |
* Zilvarael |
<3's CrunchBang! |
| 16:00 |
Jordach |
i still like PCBSD |
| 16:00 |
FreeFull |
Zilvarael: Tell me more |
| 16:00 |
OldCoder |
Of course, if you run VMs reboots are never required to restart guest OSes |
| 16:00 |
* OldCoder |
is rebuilding VirtualBox right now |
| 16:01 |
FreeFull |
OldCoder: Restarting a guest OS is as good as a reboot though =P |
| 16:01 |
* Jordach |
knows OldCoder loves building software |
| 16:03 |
OldCoder |
FreeFull, at a lower level. Jordach love is not precisely the word. Let me introduce you to one of the heads of Gentoo as I promised. He does this all day long. It is like breathing. Necessary; love does not enter into it. |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
OldCoder: why do you compile it? |
| 16:05 |
OldCoder |
Calinou, I maintain my own distro |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
<Zilvarael> FreeFull: Linux used to make you reboot to ensure software installed. However I find it very nice that it no longer makes you do that. |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
it never did |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
lolcrunchbang |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
Jordach: lol, bsd |
| 16:05 |
Calinou |
bullshit distro :D |
| 16:05 |
Zilvarael |
FreeFull: About? |
| 16:06 |
FreeFull |
Zilvarael: Linux making you reboot to make sure software has installed? |
| 16:06 |
Calinou |
it never did except for kernel updates |
| 16:07 |
FreeFull |
You can avoid a hardware reboot when switching kernels using kexec but you'll still have to shut down all software anyway |
| 16:07 |
OldCoder |
Calinou, actually updates of shared libraries would and will require updates |
| 16:07 |
Zilvarael |
Really... I remember ubuntu might have... then again that might have been the "Initial update" they do when you first start using it. (Shows how many times I had to re-install xD Good times) |
| 16:08 |
FreeFull |
Lol, reinstalling |
| 16:08 |
Zilvarael |
Least back on 8.04 |
| 16:08 |
Calinou |
ubuntu starting from 11.10 sucks |
| 16:08 |
Calinou |
period |
| 16:08 |
Calinou |
lubuntu FTW |
| 16:08 |
Calinou |
(read: windows XP linux version) |
| 16:09 |
FreeFull |
I used Xubuntu from 6.10 to 11.04 or something |
| 16:09 |
FreeFull |
Before Xubuntu it was SuSE |
| 16:09 |
FreeFull |
After Xubuntu, Crunchbang and then Arch |
| 16:10 |
Zilvarael |
I have moved all over the place from Ubuntu -> Backtrack -> Backbox -> Arch and lastly #! But before I discovered ubuntu I was on open suse 6 which was total shit can. Any more I stopped Distro hopping and set on #! since its a good medium between Arch and Ubuntu. Customize the hell out of it, but its still MOSTLY user friendly. |
| 16:10 |
FreeFull |
I did Slackware in a VM multiple times, and in 2006-2007 used to boot Knoppix |
| 16:12 |
OldCoder |
I like my own distro |
| 16:12 |
OldCoder |
Gets the job done |
| 16:15 |
FreeFull |
I don't want all the compiling that comes with having my own distro/using gentoo |
| 16:18 |
OldCoder |
FreeFull, it is a tradeoff |
| 16:19 |
FreeFull |
Well, here is the tradeoff: Compilation can be lightning fast. You can compile the Linux kernel in less than 1 second on a modern machine. But that is with optimisations turned off |
| 16:19 |
OldCoder |
huh |
| 16:19 |
OldCoder |
That seems too fast |
| 16:19 |
FreeFull |
Optimisation is what eats up most compile time |
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| 16:30 |
* Calinou |
is talking in #minecrafthelp about a computer choice |
| 16:30 |
Calinou |
trying to tell someone to use linux |
| 16:30 |
Calinou |
8D |
| 16:30 |
Calinou |
this is hard |
| 16:31 |
OldCoder |
Ha |
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| 16:31 |
OldCoder |
Calinou, what channel? |
| 16:31 |
OldCoder |
That one is empty |
| 16:31 |
Calinou |
#minecrafthelp @ irc.esper.net |
| 16:31 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
| 16:31 |
OldCoder |
nvm |
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| 16:40 |
Calinou |
:( he will go windows probably |
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* Calinou |
cries. |
| 16:43 |
OldCoder |
He will learn |
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| 16:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
calinou: misa is missing the delay gate texture and the lever texture for mesecons |
| 16:57 |
Calinou |
I know, mesecons support is partial. |
| 16:57 |
Calinou |
:O you got your old name back |
| 16:57 |
Calinou |
you're still logged in as tank |
| 16:58 |
jordan4ibanez |
lol |
| 17:00 |
Jordach |
Calinou, who gives a fuck about nicks here? |
| 17:00 |
Calinou |
me |
| 17:00 |
Calinou |
having different nicks on forum and IRC == confusing |
| 17:00 |
Jordach |
a nick is = to or > a nick |
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* Jordach |
waits for PC-BSD to finish |
| 17:13 |
* PilzAdam |
is back |
| 17:13 |
Jordach |
hey PilzAdam |
| 17:13 |
PilzAdam |
i saw you on xlive |
| 17:13 |
Jordach |
y u play on invisible |
| 17:13 |
PilzAdam |
dunno |
| 17:14 |
Jordach |
i was playing LEGO Batman |
| 17:14 |
PilzAdam |
last time i watched into my settings was years ago |
| 17:14 |
PilzAdam |
LEGO Batman is nice |
| 17:14 |
* PilzAdam |
has 100% in LEGO Batman |
| 17:15 |
Jordach |
sweet |
| 17:16 |
Calinou |
Jordach: are you installing PC-BSD...? |
| 17:16 |
Jordach |
why yes Calinou |
| 17:16 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 17:16 |
PilzAdam |
yay! distro war |
| 17:16 |
Calinou |
have fun running a web browser/irc client |
| 17:16 |
Calinou |
:D PilzAdam |
| 17:16 |
Calinou |
did a distro war in #minecrafthelp @ espernet a while ago |
| 17:16 |
Jordach |
BSD FTW |
| 17:18 |
Jordach |
bsd does not need to restart after kernel upgrades |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
only that? |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
COOL |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
I mean |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
C00L |
| 17:20 |
Calinou |
BSD is like "hey linux sucks lets make our own!" it participates to the fragmentation of linux |
| 17:20 |
Jordach |
http://gnuman.com/pc-bsd-9-review/ |
| 17:21 |
tripod |
http://www.bedrock.org |
| 17:21 |
tripod |
way better distro |
| 17:21 |
Jordach |
does not work |
| 17:23 |
tripod |
i use bedrock |
| 17:23 |
tripod |
or link doesnt work? |
| 17:23 |
tripod |
http://bedrocklinux.org/ |
| 17:23 |
tripod |
oh |
| 17:23 |
tripod |
manual typing i loathe you |
| 17:25 |
thexyz |
Jordach: ksplice |
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* Jordach |
sits up, folds arms and raises eyebrows |
| 17:26 |
OWNSyouAll |
Is there any way to generate ore the lua api? |
| 17:26 |
Jordach |
mapgen.lua in the default mod |
| 17:26 |
thexyz |
and, btw, Jordach, can you point me to article that says that "bsd does not need to restart after kernel upgrades"? |
| 17:26 |
PilzAdam |
OWNSyouAll, read the code from the default ores: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/mapgen.lua |
| 17:27 |
Jordach |
thexyz, later |
| 17:28 |
Jordach |
im a hipster, i use BSD |
| 17:28 |
OWNSyouAll |
PilzAdam: so there is there a lua api call for that or do am i better just copy and pasting the generate_ore function |
| 17:28 |
Jordach |
OWNSyouAll, pretty much |
| 17:28 |
thexyz |
well, then i assume you said some shit i can't trust |
| 17:30 |
PilzAdam |
OWNSyouAll, in my fork of minetest_game the generate_ore function is global, so you can use it in mods: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/mapgen.lua |
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* PilzAdam |
blocks all google sites with noscript and adblock |
| 17:36 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: why? |
| 17:36 |
PilzAdam |
google is evil |
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| 17:37 |
NakedFury |
google isnt evil, just misunderstood |
| 17:37 |
thexyz |
in what ways? |
| 17:37 |
NakedFury |
it wants to take over the world and people see it as evil |
| 17:38 |
OldCoder |
I don't want the world, I just want your half |
| 17:38 |
Jordach |
haha |
| 17:38 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, present? |
| 17:38 |
PilzAdam |
OldCoder, i take the other half |
| 17:38 |
OldCoder |
Good luck with the property taxes |
| 17:40 |
* Jordach |
is playing crush the castle |
| 17:41 |
PilzAdam |
german car quality test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PiwNWZsiM0 |
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| 18:07 |
PilzAdam |
gtg |
| 18:07 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 18:08 |
OWNSyouAll |
Is there any documentation for https://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/mapgen.lua's generate_ore function im confused on what chunk_size and ore_pre_chunk do |
| 18:13 |
Jordach |
chunk_size is how many blocks one would get from a normal chunk |
| 18:13 |
Jordach |
wait |
| 18:13 |
Jordach |
sod what i just said |
| 18:13 |
Jordach |
chunk size is the top size it can be possible |
| 18:14 |
Jordach |
or best or rarest |
| 18:14 |
Jordach |
ore_per_chunk is the minimum of ore bits |
| 18:15 |
Jordach |
jordan4ibanez, do the post for ovo |
| 18:16 |
* Jordach |
is pissed off again |
| 18:16 |
Jordach |
"closed Google Chrome while downloading" |
| 18:18 |
* Basstard` |
is Jordach's empty block of ice |
| 18:19 |
OWNSyouAll |
Jordach: so ore_per_chunk is the minimum number of blocks in that chunk that can spawn and chunk_size is the max number of blocks that can spawn ? |
| 18:19 |
Jordach |
yes |
| 18:19 |
Jordach |
or similar |
| 18:20 |
Jordach |
i dont really know that much, but its an educated guess |
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* Jordach |
has major headache |
| 18:27 |
* Jordach |
has felt like crap for the last few hours |
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Basstard` |
I hear ya. |
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| 19:04 |
jordan4ibanez |
experience from mining? almost done |
| 19:04 |
Jordach |
sweet |
| 19:04 |
Jordach |
for minetest essentials? |
| 19:04 |
jordan4ibanez |
for fancy |
| 19:08 |
jordan4ibanez |
jordach, please quickly port me the misa orb texture |
| 19:08 |
jordan4ibanez |
if you are not busy |
| 19:09 |
Jordach |
im actually busy |
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jordan4ibanez |
lol, people said this stuff couldn't be done without lag, lmao |
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| 19:20 |
Jordach |
that is true |
| 19:21 |
NakedFury |
so you plan a sort of mcmo experience in minetest? |
| 19:23 |
Jordach |
yes. :P |
| 19:24 |
jordan4ibanez |
yes actually, i was going to move onto that next |
| 19:25 |
NakedFury |
a 100% mcmmo convertion to minetest or just the rpg idea of experience and levels and possibly skills from rpg games? |
| 19:26 |
jordan4ibanez |
nah man, just some of the things i like, i'm making enchantments possible with xp :3 |
| 19:27 |
Jordach |
true dat. true dat. |
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xcgurl08 |
hey can someone help me |
| 19:41 |
OldCoder |
xcgurl08, Hi again |
| 19:41 |
xcgurl08 |
so I got the home mod |
| 19:41 |
xcgurl08 |
and I set my home.. |
| 19:42 |
xcgurl08 |
and up until now it's worked |
| 19:42 |
xcgurl08 |
but for some reason now I clicked on go home.. |
| 19:42 |
xcgurl08 |
and I'm stuck in blackness |
| 19:42 |
OldCoder |
xcgurl08, Are you playing standalone or on a server? |
| 19:42 |
xcgurl08 |
standalone |
| 19:43 |
OldCoder |
Anybody? Can he just exit and edit his coordinates to appear outside the home perhaps? |
| 19:43 |
OWNSyouAll |
xcgurl08: why not just enable free move and fly out of it |
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xcgurl08 |
I fixed it |
| 19:44 |
xcgurl08 |
I pressed shift+W and the blackness went away |
| 19:44 |
xcgurl08 |
and I'm outside of my home |
| 19:44 |
xcgurl08 |
btw, how do you fly?? |
| 19:44 |
OWNSyouAll |
think its h |
| 19:45 |
xcgurl08 |
that does nothing in my game |
| 19:45 |
OWNSyouAll |
k my bad |
| 19:45 |
OWNSyouAll |
as in the key k |
| 19:46 |
xcgurl08 |
when I pressed k it said free mode enabled (note: no 'fly' privilege)? |
| 19:46 |
OWNSyouAll |
oh you have to give your self fly previleges |
| 19:47 |
OWNSyouAll |
you can see your privelges by doing "/privs" |
| 19:47 |
xcgurl08 |
how do I give myself a privilege? |
| 19:49 |
OWNSyouAll |
xcgurl08: http://minetest.net/wiki/doku.php?id=privilege_system |
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xcgurl08 |
the problem is.. |
| 19:52 |
xcgurl08 |
I'm playing singleplayer |
| 19:52 |
xcgurl08 |
and I have no name |
| 19:52 |
OWNSyouAll |
xcgurl08: your name is singleplayer by default |
| 19:53 |
xcgurl08 |
I typed singleplayer:hashed_password:privs |
| 19:53 |
xcgurl08 |
but that didn't change anything |
| 19:54 |
OWNSyouAll |
xcgurl08: put ",fly" add the end |
| 19:57 |
xcgurl08 |
how do you go back down |
| 19:57 |
xcgurl08 |
btw, that didn't work,...what you said |
| 19:57 |
xcgurl08 |
I ended up typing /grant singleplayer all |
| 19:57 |
OWNSyouAll |
press k again to go back down |
| 19:58 |
xcgurl08 |
okay thanks! :) |
| 20:03 |
Jordach |
right you lot...i gotta head off to bed now :) |
| 20:03 |
Jordach |
y'all have a good <day/night/evening> |
| 20:17 |
Taoki |
I wonder if that 3D anaglyph patch I tested some time ago was merged into MT officially. Just tried anaglyph stereo in MineCraft, and noticed something awesome: You can actually focus your eyes over the geometry like you can in real life (when looking at closer and further objects) |
| 20:17 |
Taoki |
I THINK the MT patch for anaglyph does that too, never tested it there |
| 20:17 |
Taoki |
Just noticed it now, totally cool and worth having |
| 20:18 |
khonkhortisan |
that reminds me, whenever you add anaglyph, please allow changing the eye colors |
| 20:18 |
Taoki |
That would be a nice feature |
| 20:18 |
khonkhortisan |
that's a feature bzflag doesn't have |
| 20:19 |
khonkhortisan |
Also, you don't need anaglyph. If you use a small window, you can have a full-color on both sides, and cross your eyes to get 3d. Youtube has that mode. |
| 20:20 |
khonkhortisan |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1o9qH28eWA Click 3D -> Change viewing method -> Side by side, then cross your eyes and you have 3d |
| 20:21 |
khonkhortisan |
or "No glasses" if you need the dots to focus right |
| 20:27 |
jordan4ibanez |
i greenlighted experience http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=45944#p45944 |
| 20:27 |
jordan4ibanez |
try it, tell me what you guys think |
| 20:31 |
khonkhortisan |
I don't think the menu worked |
| 20:33 |
khonkhortisan |
well, I don't need a mese axe anymore. |
| 20:34 |
khonkhortisan |
hey, leaves with sticks! |
| 20:35 |
khonkhortisan |
this is much nicer than the game I was using |
| 20:38 |
khonkhortisan |
I found floating snow, probably from a tall tree that regenerated short |
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mrtux |
hi |
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RealBadAngel |
khonkhortisan, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoMynx6xXkU&feature=plcp |
| 21:04 |
khonkhortisan |
looks good |
| 21:04 |
RealBadAngel |
yeah, pilzadam added also animation for sources |
| 21:05 |
RealBadAngel |
so oceans now r just cool |
| 21:06 |
khonkhortisan |
I think I see a trick. On the side of flowing water, it looks like it's flowing diagonally, but I think it's flowing on both diagonals. |
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_2cool4me4_ |
Is anyone here today? |
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Uberi |
yep |
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_2cool4me4_ |
okay |
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_2cool4me4_ |
it was just very quiet |
| 21:38 |
Uberi |
quite so |
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Octupus |
hi |
| 22:03 |
Uberi |
hi Octupus |
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NekoGloop |
my headphones borked! D: |
| 22:04 |
Octupus |
hi neko and uberi |
| 22:04 |
NekoGloop |
I only get sound in my right earbud, not the left one :/ |
| 22:05 |
Uberi |
o/ NekoGloop |
| 22:05 |
Uberi |
NekoGloop: did you try turning it off and on again? :P |
| 22:05 |
NekoGloop |
The headphones? |
| 22:05 |
NekoGloop |
how does one turn off earbuds? |
| 22:05 |
Uberi |
with a hammer |
| 22:05 |
NekoGloop |
wouldnt help |
| 22:05 |
Uberi |
but this precludes the possibility of turning them on again |
| 22:05 |
NekoGloop |
the cord is derp |
| 22:06 |
NekoGloop |
if i hold the cord in a certain position, i can get stereo sound |
| 22:06 |
NekoGloop |
... this position requires two hands |
| 22:09 |
NekoGloop |
Mesecons takes longer to extract than minetest does O.O |
| 22:12 |
FreeFull |
Lol |
| 22:12 |
FreeFull |
Better compression? =P |
| 22:12 |
NekoGloop |
might be. |
| 22:12 |
Uberi |
it's because there are over 1000 files, actually |
| 22:12 |
NekoGloop |
.zip vs. .7z |
| 22:12 |
Uberi |
the compression is standard zip |
| 22:13 |
Uberi |
lots of files tend to lead to lots of HDD seeks |
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khonkhortisan |
"15:26:55: ERROR[main]: Something failed" That's very helpful, thank you for telling me that! |
| 22:29 |
OldCoder |
Surely it is perfect detail |
| 22:29 |
OldCoder |
:D |
| 22:29 |
NekoGloop |
ikr |
| 22:29 |
NekoGloop |
usually it's because it failed to update mesh fast enough |
| 22:29 |
khonkhortisan |
it says that after quit message received |
| 22:32 |
NekoGloop |
Can i request some images? Obsidian, Basalt, and Pumice please. ^^ |
| 22:33 |
NekoGloop |
16x size, fit with default. |
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| 22:38 |
NekoGloop |
ok, nvm about obsidian |
| 22:38 |
NekoGloop |
now just basalt & pumice pls |
| 22:38 |
khonkhortisan |
what, you went with all black? |
| 22:38 |
* khonkhortisan |
image searched those rocks |
| 22:49 |
NekoGloop |
no, some detail |
| 22:49 |
NekoGloop |
(wow i went afk for a while XD) |
| 22:52 |
NekoGloop |
god i hate having mono sound... |
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NekoGloop |
khonkhortisan: I've got images. If you have something, do please show it to me, my current ones SUCK. |
| 23:20 |
cornernote |
hi |
| 23:20 |
cornernote |
good morning! =) |
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| 23:21 |
Uberi |
hi cornernote! |
| 23:21 |
cornernote |
hey Uberi, whats up ? |
| 23:21 |
NekoGloop |
mornin cornernote |
| 23:21 |
M13 |
heelo |
| 23:21 |
NekoGloop |
can i ask you for some images for my gamemode? |
| 23:21 |
NekoGloop |
Basalt & Pumice. |
| 23:22 |
NekoGloop |
I'd use the pumice texture of lavacooling but imo that's the ugliest thing ever ^^ |
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| 23:28 |
khonkhortisan |
three-quarter slabs make stairs flat enough to run down safely |
| 23:28 |
NekoGloop |
? |
| 23:28 |
cornernote |
issue - paste this into a forum post -- [url=minetest://example.com:30000]my server[/url] |
| 23:29 |
khonkhortisan |
it goes four times as far horizontally as it does vertically |
| 23:29 |
cornernote |
you end up with minetest://example.com30000 |
| 23:29 |
cornernote |
who (other than c55) can push a fix for that if i supply the code change ? |
| 23:29 |
NekoGloop |
noone |
| 23:29 |
khonkhortisan |
you could get into a fork faster maybe |
| 23:29 |
NekoGloop |
site is hosted i think even externally from his computer. |
| 23:30 |
cornernote |
c55 being inactive is really making things hard around here |
| 23:30 |
NekoGloop |
or is it with minetest that the problem exists? |
| 23:30 |
Uberi |
wonder where he is |
| 23:30 |
cornernote |
i call for a mutiny ! |
| 23:30 |
NekoGloop |
he's sipping wine and flipping us off. |
| 23:30 |
cornernote |
lets revolt! |
| 23:30 |
NekoGloop |
I'm out. |
| 23:30 |
* Uberi |
grabs torches and a pitchfork |
| 23:30 |
cornernote |
THE COMMUNITY IS REVOLTING !!! |
| 23:31 |
Uberi |
FREE PIZZA OR DEATH |
| 23:31 |
cornernote |
its very poor management to leave an open source project with nobody else in charge |
| 23:32 |
cornernote |
if someone had the time to manage the project... if they rename/fork it, i would definately follow them |
| 23:32 |
Uberi |
I don't really think the absence was planned, really |
| 23:32 |
cornernote |
and i think many in the community would keep a close eye on the new project |
| 23:32 |
Uberi |
but yeah, there should be a chain of command |
| 23:33 |
cornernote |
even still, he has not been here since i have been here (except for about a 1 week period) |
| 23:33 |
cornernote |
and sooo many others have joined in this time |
| 23:33 |
cornernote |
ever since the API became public |
| 23:33 |
NekoGloop |
because he's tired of being asked about a API he doesnt use. |
| 23:34 |
cornernote |
so let the community take over |
| 23:34 |
cornernote |
nobody NEEDS c55 here, except that he has all the passwords |
| 23:34 |
cornernote |
we just need someone with passwords |
| 23:34 |
Basstard` |
Just fork it. |
| 23:34 |
cornernote |
great idea |
| 23:35 |
Basstard` |
The test is over. |
| 23:35 |
cornernote |
but im not a c++ programmer |
| 23:35 |
cornernote |
if there is someone who is strong in c++, please fork it, and i will follow |
| 23:35 |
cornernote |
all my mods will be compat with the fork, and MT can fester as it grows ever more static |
| 23:37 |
Basstard` |
The good thing about LGPL 2.1 is that it can be upgraded to any version of GPL. |
| 23:38 |
cornernote |
u know who i think has the initiative to do it (and people will probably not like that i suggest this .. but i will anyway)... |
| 23:38 |
cornernote |
madchicken |
| 23:38 |
cornernote |
i know he lacks experience |
| 23:38 |
cornernote |
but what he lacks in experience he makes up for with initiative, trying things |
| 23:40 |
cornernote |
we simply need someone who can actively pull in commits from community contributions |
| 23:41 |
cornernote |
anyway, im done whinging about it =) |
| 23:41 |
NekoGloop |
alright, now a modding question |
| 23:42 |
NekoGloop |
why does glasslike drawtype only work for default:glass? |
| 23:43 |
cornernote |
show me a pastebin of it not working |
| 23:43 |
NekoGloop |
minetest.register_node("default:scaffold", { description = "Scaffold", tiles = {"default_scaffold.png"}, paramtype = "light", sunlight_propagates = true, groups = {choppy=3,flammable=3,dig_immediate=3}, sounds = default.node_sound_wood_defaults(), }) |
| 23:43 |
NekoGloop |
too lazy to pastebin |
| 23:43 |
cornernote |
irc~=pastebin, but ok |
| 23:43 |
NekoGloop |
i know that. |
| 23:43 |
OldCoder |
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| 23:43 |
OldCoder |
Shutting down servers to back up |
| 23:44 |
cornernote |
if you copy default:glass, and just change the name (nothing else), does that work ? |
| 23:44 |
NekoGloop |
not like i was pasting an abm to make the world have 20 more biomes. ^^ |
| 23:44 |
NekoGloop |
cornernote: basically i did that |
| 23:44 |
NekoGloop |
but lets try again |
| 23:44 |
cornernote |
i've accidently pasted huge things in befoer |
| 23:44 |
cornernote |
not here tho |
| 23:45 |
NekoGloop |
doesnt work. |
| 23:45 |
NekoGloop |
all i did was rename it |
| 23:46 |
cornernote |
sec |
| 23:46 |
OldCoder |
Servers up again |
| 23:46 |
NekoGloop |
drawtype allfaces works |
| 23:48 |
cornernote |
https://gist.github.com/3830617 |
| 23:48 |
cornernote |
works for me |
| 23:48 |
cornernote |
i copied glass, change glass to test |
| 23:49 |
cornernote |
place one of each, glass and test |
| 23:49 |
NekoGloop |
now, i hope you guys can figure out what the node is for from the nodedef |
| 23:49 |
cornernote |
they both look exactly the same |
| 23:49 |
NekoGloop |
cornernote: must just be windows. |
| 23:49 |
NekoGloop |
or mesh generator got an update in a version I'm too lazy to grab. |
| 23:51 |
NekoGloop |
did you figure out what the node is for? |
| 23:53 |
cornernote |
if i change the Wiki, who (other than c55) can accept my changes ? |
| 23:53 |
NekoGloop |
wiki isnt owned by c55 |
| 23:53 |
cornernote |
xyz ? |
| 23:54 |
NekoGloop |
no |
| 23:54 |
NekoGloop |
death dealer |
| 23:54 |
cornernote |
never met him |
| 23:54 |
cornernote |
does he come in here ? |
| 23:54 |
NekoGloop |
neither have i |
| 23:54 |
NekoGloop |
and no. |
| 23:54 |
cornernote |
active in the community ? |
| 23:54 |
Basstard` |
He plays chess all the time. |
| 23:54 |
cornernote |
looser, he should play minetest |
| 23:54 |
cornernote |
lol |
| 23:55 |
cornernote |
ok, i was thinking about doing a wiki for the modding api |
| 23:55 |
cornernote |
fully community driven |
| 23:55 |
Uberi |
cornernote: I dunno, I think it's entirely possible that c55 comes back |
| 23:55 |
cornernote |
but he has so much work to catch up on |
| 23:55 |
cornernote |
this will be 1 thing he doesnt have to do |
| 23:56 |
Uberi |
cornernote: I think Jordach or someone had this updated mod API reference |
| 23:56 |
Uberi |
it's really a lot better and is a great basis for a wiki |
| 23:57 |
cornernote |
awesome |
| 23:57 |
cornernote |
do u know where it is ? |
| 23:57 |
NekoGloop |
pilzadam* |
| 23:57 |
Uberi |
cornernote: one moment |
| 23:58 |
Uberi |
aha, it was jordan4ibanez: https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/Better-Minetest-API |
