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00:00 NekoGloop that is the api doc from minetest
00:00 NekoGloop he kinda abandoned the project ^^
00:00 Uberi no, it's different
00:00 Uberi it's the API doc, improved
00:00 NekoGloop it's the api doc with "LINK HERE" all over the place
00:00 Uberi with tons more information and explanations that are actually understandable
00:01 Uberi NekoGloop: still, it's a good start :)
00:01 Uberi for example, does anyone know what the is_ground_content actually does?
00:01 khonkhortisan it has to do with map generation?
00:01 NekoGloop nope
00:01 NekoGloop does nothing
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00:02 Uberi as far as I can tell, does nothing, yeah
00:02 NekoGloop no, it's been said here by c55 that it does nothin
00:06 khonkhortisan "_ _ _" makes a line across my pull request, how do I make it show as-is?
00:06 khonkhortisan oic
00:08 Uberi khonkhortisan: use the escape char, \
00:08 khonkhortisan I used ``` to separate it as code
00:08 khonkhortisan but that works better
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00:10 NekoGloop math.randomseed(os.time()) serves what purpose in ore generation?
00:10 khonkhortisan yuck, that would make it so a seed doesn't create an exact copy
00:10 OldCoder Back later tonight
00:12 cornernote NekoGloop, thanks
00:12 cornernote looks better than the default one
00:12 NekoGloop ???
00:12 Uberi NekoGloop: reseeds the PRNG
00:12 cornernote api txt
00:13 Uberi but now MT does that for you so it's redundant
00:13 cornernote sorry, went afk for a bit.. delayed response
00:13 NekoGloop ok
00:13 NekoGloop moreores uses redundant code
00:13 NakedFury is_ground_content = false, -- Currently not used for anything
00:14 Uberi no, it was written for an old version when that was necessary
00:14 Uberi NakedFury: what do you think it was planned for, though?
00:14 Uberi I can't imagine what it might be for
00:14 NakedFury for the ground?
00:14 cornernote things that don't float ?
00:14 NakedFury anything else no idea
00:15 NekoGloop needs to be a crash() function
00:15 cornernote probably got moved to groups={} something
00:15 cornernote when it collides with another node ?
00:15 cornernote you can kind of detect that
00:15 cornernote but it requires onstep to check its velocity
00:16 Uberi NekoGloop: function crash() nil.abc end
00:17 NakedFury https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/Better-Minetest-API/blob/master/Basic_Facts.txt#L191
00:17 NakedFury how does that work? is that the way to set the time of digging?
00:17 cornernote yes
00:18 NakedFury times= 1 2 3 are the time for that level block and the number 1.60 is 1 second 60 something before seconds?
00:19 khonkhortisan with quarter node high steps you can run down a hill at full speed without getting hurt
00:19 NekoGloop Uberi: GENIUS!
00:19 Uberi :P
00:20 Uberi also this API doc version was the first one to explain that higher group values mean longer digging times
00:20 Uberi I was really confused when the lua_api.txt just assumed I knew it was ascending order
00:20 cornernote which is a really strange (for lack of a better word) way to code it
00:20 NekoGloop function crash() local you_are_a_fucking_idiot = nil chat_send_all(you_are_a_fucking_idiot) end
00:21 cornernote i want a level 100 sword
00:21 NekoGloop or whatever.
00:21 NekoGloop minetest.chat_send_all*
00:21 Uberi cornernote: me too!
00:21 cornernote it kills anything thats within 10 nodes of me  lol
00:21 Uberi haha
00:21 cornernote they just explode
00:21 Uberi including yourself :P
00:21 cornernote haha
00:21 cornernote but level 100 means its super crap
00:22 NakedFury too few levels right now
00:22 cornernote how anti-intuitive is that ?!
00:22 Uberi it's actually a sand sword
00:22 cornernote gravel sword
00:22 Uberi air sword
00:22 cornernote breaks as soon as you craft it
00:22 Uberi breaks before you craft it
00:22 cornernote should post that as a mod
00:23 cornernote level 100 air sword
00:23 Uberi hahaha
00:23 Uberi it has a blank inventory image
00:23 cornernote and you cant select it
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00:23 Uberi and does nothing whatsoever
00:23 cornernote but trust me, its there
00:24 NakedFury sandsword: when it hits living flesh everything from the hilt up desintegrates. but in reality is that the sand moves to enter the enemies body through the cut. effect: dries out the victim, if they cant reach water area they will die. you need to find a new sand source to replenish the sword
00:24 MuadTralk nice
00:24 MuadTralk please tell me it exists
00:24 cornernote init.lua - minetest.log("action","[MOD] air_sword - has been loaded")
00:24 Uberi or they get +3 mild annoyance and -2 thirst
00:24 Uberi cornernote: mod of the year!
00:25 Uberi make sure you have a strategy guide to go with it
00:25 Uberi "care and maintenance of the air sword"
00:25 MuadTralk rule 1) make sure to not set down your air sword for it is the same colour as the air.
00:26 NakedFury air sword has a reach of 10 blocks
00:26 NakedFury hit for little but has fast attack rate
00:26 MuadTralk 2) striking someone with the air sword will cause them to feel a mild breeze
00:26 Uberi it causes +5 mild annoyance and +2 taunt
00:26 cornernote needs to have a strong licence too... cant be GPL
00:26 NakedFury fire is the natural counter
00:27 Uberi incredible stats
00:27 MuadTralk cc-by-sa?
00:27 MuadTralk :D
00:27 Uberi no, you need to sell the strategy guide separately
00:27 Uberi first page is a bunch of screenshots of people using the air sword
00:28 Uberi the rest of the 79 pages are cat pictures
00:28 NakedFury license: its the internet so you actually do what ever the f-bomb you want with this BUT if I find you taking credit I will forum stalk you forever
00:28 NakedFury that is your license
00:29 MuadTralk the F!@* licences you mean?
00:29 Uberi ...I'll just stick with the AGPLv3
00:31 NekoGloop NakedFury: that would be WTFPLGMC
00:32 NakedFury too many initials, people wont be googling that
00:32 NakedFury people dont google even agpl
00:33 Uberi that's why I write a blurb at the bottom of the README explaining the basics
00:36 cornernote http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3281
00:36 Uberi :D
00:36 Uberi D:
00:37 cornernote this is what happens when i cant think of anything to code
00:37 Uberi cornernote: go code a cure for cancer in MT
00:37 cornernote there is a cancer mod ?
00:38 Uberi go make a cancer mod
00:38 Uberi then go make a mod that cures it
00:39 Uberi http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=45970#p45970
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00:54 cornernote ok, i think its ready to be moved to mod releases now
00:54 cornernote im pretty happy that there are no bugs or issues
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01:45 jordan4ibanez mesecons is highly unpredictable
01:46 cornernote hey jordan4ibanez
01:46 jordan4ibanez hi cornernote
01:46 Uberi jordan4ibanez: how so?
01:46 jordan4ibanez i'll make a vid to show how so in a second
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01:46 cornernote im trying to make conway's game of life, its mostly predictable even on a huge circuit
01:47 cornernote i just am stuck on the toggle switch
01:47 jordan4ibanez i somehow figured out how to do like 30 ticks per second
01:47 jordan4ibanez and then the circuit locks up
01:47 cornernote can u share the *.wem file ?
01:47 cornernote do //metasave in we
01:47 Uberi cornernote: ics have a T-FF button built in
01:48 Uberi jordan4ibanez: that is a limitation of the MT server
01:48 cornernote yeah, i dont like it, i made my own TFF
01:48 Uberi sapier opened an issue and pull request
01:48 Uberi jordan4ibanez: if a circuit sim takes too long to run, dt will grow unbounded and the server will do wierd things
01:49 Uberi cornernote: why? it's the most compact T-FF possible!
01:49 cornernote can u paste it ?
01:49 cornernote i dont have mesecons on at the moment
01:49 cornernote i'll find my code
01:50 Uberi cornernote: one moment
01:50 Uberi cornernote: if(A)sbi(1,1); if(!A&#1&B)off(B)sbi(1,0); if(!A&#1&!B)on(B)sbi(1,0); :A is input, B is output (Q), toggles with falling edge
01:51 Uberi I think it can probably be made smaller but whatever
01:51 cornernote mine was not the same direction, let me make it a is input, b is output
01:52 Uberi oh I usually just do a find + replace on those
01:53 cornernote i gott think how mine worked :S
01:53 cornernote mine has a reset switch in it too
01:53 cornernote so im re-doing it without that
01:53 cornernote been ages since i did these bloody mc things
01:53 cornernote lol
01:54 cornernote how the hell did i build all those big contraptions :S
01:54 Uberi made a falling edge triggered register today, with an incrementer :)
01:54 Uberi cornernote: btw how did you do that random number gen in your rock paper scissors lizard spock map?
01:55 cornernote if(A)sbi(1,1);if(!A&#1)sbi(B,!B)sbi(1,0); :A is input, B is output (Q), toggles with falling edge
01:56 Uberi neat
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01:56 cornernote compacts the last IF into an SBI that checks its own port
01:58 cornernote and this one
01:58 cornernote if(A)sbi(1,1);if(!A&#1)sbi(B,!B)sbi(1,0); if(C)off(B,1); :A is input, B is output, C is reset, toggles with falling edge
01:58 cornernote adds a reset
01:58 Uberi nice
01:58 cornernote can u make that one the default ?
01:59 cornernote and i think dont mention Q .. it makes it confusing
01:59 cornernote i guess its there cos thats what its called in all the electrical diagrams
01:59 Uberi cornernote: will do, it's on the todo now
01:59 cornernote the technical term for it
02:00 Uberi yeah it's more of a convention
02:01 cornernote the random number generator is like a 3bit counter (just keeps going from 0-7)
02:02 cornernote then when P1 chooses a number, i check what the current counter number is
02:02 cornernote it was the most complex part of the game
02:02 cornernote the actual game was a piece of pie, really simple AND/OR logic
02:02 cornernote the counter took all the work
02:03 cornernote and getting it to give a number at the right time
02:03 cornernote and not keep changing
02:03 cornernote and to be "randomish" enough
02:04 Uberi cornernote: oh so it's a simple time based PRNG
02:04 cornernote if P1 chooses again right away, then they will probably be able to guess the outcome because the clock wont have enough time to become random
02:04 cornernote yep
02:04 Uberi I expected some sort of xorshift generator but that works as well :P
02:07 cornernote i started building a world of simple mesecons machines
02:07 cornernote counters and clocks and decoders and such
02:07 Uberi neat
02:07 cornernote but have no new ideas, so i kind of left it
02:08 Uberi cornernote: build an ALU! I'm building a loader and we can combine it to build a computer!
02:08 cornernote hey, maybe you have an idea on how to fix my conways game of life cell
02:08 Uberi then I'll write an assembler for it and a script to program it
02:08 cornernote its 99.99% working
02:08 cornernote and i have a cell.wem file that is wired to stack with others
02:08 Uberi and then... we will disassemble the MT binary and run MT in MT!
02:09 Uberi cool, cornernote, got a link?
02:09 cornernote so you can just copy it in, 10x10
02:09 cornernote but the problem is...
02:09 cornernote once you have your 10x10 (maybe a 4x4 is more practical) ... but once you have it you cant toggle the initial state
02:09 cornernote sec, i'll get the stuff
02:10 Uberi hmm
02:10 cornernote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway's_Game_of_Life#Examples_of_patterns
02:10 OldCoder Uberi I'm using worldedit. I hear that it's quite useful.
02:10 cornernote to make a simple oscillarot, i need 5x5 cells
02:10 Uberi OldCoder: quite :)
02:11 OldCoder cornernote, Have I mentioned that your mods seem to be performing perfectly?
02:11 cornernote well of course they would, i made them =)
02:11 Uberi cornernote: wouldn't 3x3 be enough for a blinker?
02:11 Uberi :P
02:11 cornernote yes, but you cant check if its intefering with the border ones
02:12 Uberi oh is it a wraparound design?
02:12 cornernote so, my problem is, i build 5x5, and then i have no way to turn them on
02:12 cornernote i have worked with a toggle switch, but it only half works...
02:12 cornernote eg, if the life is on, it will kill it, or visa versa... but then it wont toggle again
02:13 cornernote i'll get the wem file
02:13 Uberi hmm
02:13 cornernote here is the prototype (no connecting wires to other cells), it has buttons to emulate other cells
02:13 cornernote https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-worlds/blob/master/mesecons_circuits/schems/conways-game-of-life-cell-proto.wem
02:14 cornernote here it is with all the wires
02:14 cornernote https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-worlds/blob/master/mesecons_circuits/schems/conways-game-of-life-cell.wem
02:15 cornernote if you download the whole worlds repo (its not as big as it sounds), its in the mesecons_circuits world
02:15 Uberi I will definitely be looking through this one :)
02:18 OldCoder cornernote, what is the whole worlds repo
02:18 OldCoder ?
02:20 cornernote some of my worlds that i want to keep safe
02:20 OldCoder All right
02:21 OldCoder Do you wish to have any of them run publicly? If so are any built up to a reasonable extent?
02:21 cornernote its things like this - https://sites.google.com/site/cornernote/minetest/4-bit-decoder-to-7-segment-display
02:21 cornernote https://sites.google.com/site/cornernote/minetest/rock-paper-scissors-lizard-spock
02:21 OldCoder Ah
02:21 OldCoder Reviewing
02:22 OldCoder I want to run that. Will that be all right?
02:22 cornernote sure
02:22 OldCoder Goes up at some point then
02:22 cornernote maybe copy it with worldedit, and paste it into a world you have
02:22 OldCoder I have not learned MT sufficiently yet
02:23 cornernote use //metasave and //metaload so that it captures all the programming in the controllers
02:23 OldCoder If there is a way to combine several of these constructs I could host them in a single world and document them
02:23 cornernote for worldedit - use this - http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3112
02:23 OldCoder All right. The problem is that I am so terribly behind IRL
02:23 cornernote then you dont need to know any commands
02:23 OldCoder cornernote, I am also unwell
02:23 cornernote :(
02:23 OldCoder :-)
02:24 OldCoder I have greatly enjoyed setting up the server framework
02:24 OldCoder I will complete it and then...
02:24 OldCoder Document and release it
02:24 OldCoder Anybody who wishes...
02:24 cornernote 1 click deploy to amazon ?
02:24 OldCoder Will be able to set up a large group of worlds rapidly
02:24 OldCoder Hmm
02:24 OldCoder Go on
02:24 OldCoder Are you joking or serious?
02:24 cornernote cant you save your image and make it public ?
02:24 OldCoder Ah!
02:24 OldCoder The image does not matter!
02:24 OldCoder It is non-consequential
02:25 OldCoder The documentation; the tarball...
02:25 cornernote u have to choose an OS
02:25 OldCoder Yes
02:25 OldCoder That is the point
02:25 OldCoder I have produced something that should work under any Linux or BSD
02:25 OldCoder with a bit of elbow grease
02:25 cornernote ok, so they choose any image
02:25 OldCoder ?
02:25 OldCoder No...
02:25 cornernote with amazon
02:25 OldCoder I do things differently
02:25 cornernote any os
02:25 cornernote *nix/bsd
02:25 OldCoder The goal is to make a 1GB MT set
02:26 OldCoder Part of my Linux distro
02:26 OldCoder Or any Linux distro
02:26 OldCoder I will be able to add a number of nice features I think
02:26 OldCoder Eventually people will run 20 worlds at once
02:26 OldCoder All different sets of mods
02:26 OldCoder different *game forks
02:26 OldCoder Even different servers and clients
02:26 OldCoder But a single command
02:26 OldCoder Will update everything
02:26 OldCoder <--- He is sort of good at this
02:27 OldCoder
02:27 OldCoder I will proceed and keep you apprised
02:27 OldCoder The scissors paper thing will go in at some point
02:27 OldCoder
02:27 OldCoder I'd like...
02:27 OldCoder The best 0.3.X world if possible
02:27 OldCoder I can save it forever if somebody has a copy
02:27 OldCoder It will never die
02:27 OldCoder
02:28 OldCoder I can also host any fork
02:28 OldCoder
02:28 OldCoder All part of the framework.
02:28 M13 OldCoder really
02:28 M13 lolz
02:28 OldCoder M13, really
02:28 M13 go to PM
02:28 OldCoder All right
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02:45 jordan4ibanez who wants to see the lag machine
02:45 Uberi I prefer to call it, my "laptop"
02:54 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/0d4WGooL1L0
02:54 jordan4ibanez LAG MACHINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
02:56 cornernote vid is slow to buff..
02:56 cornernote have to say, game looks so nice compared to when i 1st played it
02:56 Uberi I'll say
02:57 cornernote just begging for objects that are 3d with joints
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02:57 NekoGloop Meow.
02:57 cornernote looking for new ipad games last night
02:57 Uberi hi NekoGloop
02:57 cornernote found MC free
02:57 Uberi cornernote: hard to find good ones, eh?
02:57 NekoGloop I still only have mono sound. Fml.
02:58 cornernote they have 3d animals, with joints, etc
02:58 Uberi I'm tired of the 1000000th temple run clone
02:58 cornernote in my ipad!
02:58 NekoGloop cornernote: Mc ipad demo doesnt save.
02:58 cornernote thats not my point
02:58 Uberi cornernote: yeah I bought the full version, really fun
02:58 cornernote traitor!
02:58 cornernote lol
02:58 Uberi jordan4ibanez: are you using the pistons I updated a day or so ago?
02:58 Uberi :P
02:58 NekoGloop I have the full version so that when they price it the same as the pc one i have :P
02:58 Uberi I'd buy MT pocket edition if that existed too, actually
02:59 Uberi as long as it has mesecons
02:59 NekoGloop You wouldnt have to buy it lol
02:59 NekoGloop And i assume they'd somehow make it so you can get mods.
02:59 Uberi NekoGloop: if it funded development, I'd gladly pay about 2-10 dollars for it
02:59 cornernote id say keep it simple
02:59 Uberi NekoGloop: yeah lua compiles fine for iOS
02:59 cornernote like m13's mini version
02:59 Uberi woo ANSI compliant C
03:00 cornernote http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3185
03:02 Uberi wow that is amazing
03:03 NekoGloop Wow that is amazing
03:03 NekoGloop Someone on the minetest forums that made something that doesnt work for linux
03:03 NekoGloop Good job.
03:03 Uberi I wrote MeseconEdit and that doesn't work on linux :P
03:06 NekoGloop Yet supposedly "linux is the shit"
03:06 NekoGloop I'd remove the "the" from that sentence personally.
03:06 cornernote lol
03:06 cornernote OS flame war coming
03:06 * cornernote ducks
03:07 * NekoGloop shoots the duck
03:07 Uberi it's OK, I got my teflon suit
03:07 Uberi and a water bottle
03:09 jordan4ibanez i think linux is the best because it doesn't suck
03:09 Uberi bye everyone!
03:09 jordan4ibanez LOLOLAWLOLMAOLOROLF!
03:09 NekoGloop Linux sucks just as much, just not in the same ways.
03:11 Basstard` You can always use a different kernel.
03:11 icallitvera inb4 GNU/HURD
03:12 jordan4ibanez oh it does, but that main one, gaming, HURR DURR oh god that's what minetest is made for
03:12 jordan4ibanez herpederp
03:14 NekoGloop Linux sucks for gaming bacause not a lot of games are made for it.
03:14 NekoGloop That and it doesnt support directx natively.
03:15 jordan4ibanez so fucking what, direct is is the biggest pile of shit ever, windows is starting to suck and choke out it's users so badly that steam finally decided to make steam for linux, which runs faster with opengl then it does with directx
03:15 jordan4ibanez windows = the suck
03:15 NekoGloop Windows 8 sucks with its liscnecing, yes.
03:16 jordan4ibanez i used windows 7 ultimate for 2 weeks and i had to get rid of it, 140 dollars down the drain
03:16 NekoGloop Hm?
03:16 NekoGloop I'm not familiar with windows 7, what was the problem?
03:17 jordan4ibanez it sucks for developing, all windows os-s suck for developing
03:17 NekoGloop Developing of what?
03:17 jordan4ibanez anything
03:17 jordan4ibanez it's a big hassle on windows
03:17 NekoGloop Mods for minetest?
03:18 NekoGloop Or c++ source?
03:18 jordan4ibanez even that yes, notepad ++ is a buggy mess sadly
03:18 NekoGloop Heh.
03:18 NakedFury not really
03:18 NekoGloop I use notepad++ for all my mods
03:18 jordan4ibanez oh it is, maybe not on 32 bit, but on 64 bit it crashes quite often
03:18 NekoGloop Including what i did for technic.
03:18 NekoGloop Heh.
03:18 NakedFury it has never crashed for me
03:18 NekoGloop Get 32 bit then.
03:18 NakedFury notepad++ or geany or any other stuff
03:19 jordan4ibanez "get linux"
03:19 jordan4ibanez LOL
03:19 jordan4ibanez i argued with linucksfails2 for 2 months about this, i have every comeback in the book lol
03:19 NekoGloop Your book is missing a page...
03:20 Basstard` Sorry, had to wipe my arse.
03:20 NekoGloop my mouth*
03:20 NekoGloop FTFY
03:20 NekoGloop Same thing though.
03:20 jordan4ibanez if i were on windows, i'd never had created minetest fancy
03:21 Basstard` NekoGloop: You wiped your mouth with that? You're disgusting.
03:21 NekoGloop Heh.
03:21 NekoGloop jordan4ibanez: I'm making a gamemode myself here :/
03:21 jordan4ibanez use geany
03:22 NekoGloop Nope.
03:22 jordan4ibanez notepad ++ sucks wieners from a new york hotdog stand
03:22 NekoGloop Notepad++.
03:22 Basstard` Kate
03:22 jordan4ibanez use dos
03:22 NekoGloop Notepad++ boots in <10 secs.
03:22 NekoGloop WITH having >20 files open.
03:23 jordan4ibanez geany starts up instantly with ANY amount of files open!
03:23 jordan4ibanez except for like 50, that pretty much asks for a 20 second start
03:23 Basstard` Emacs
03:23 NekoGloop The time also assumes you just started windows and are booting n++
03:23 jordan4ibanez gimp
03:24 NekoGloop How the fuck does one use gimp to code?!
03:24 jordan4ibanez gimp use to be able to do text
03:24 jordan4ibanez in like 2002
03:24 jordan4ibanez "or sometime like that"
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03:27 T_A_N_K windows bad things: you cannot modify your os legally, you can not distribute your os legally, you can not even use modifier programs to change how windows works legally, even though you can because there's not a windows moderator standing there watching you, the liscense is horrible
03:28 T_A_N_K what the hell happened to celeron55?
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03:33 T_A_N_K bb
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04:58 cornernote made a .bat file so windows users can have links to minetest://example.com:30000 that work
04:58 cornernote http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3272
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05:08 NekoGloop Meow.
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05:10 NekoGloop Watchin yogscast tekkit.
05:11 NekoGloop Cant wait until rba's got his pipes figured out. Also, unfortunatly for everyone using windows, he used on_step, so we'll get an error. Bummer.
05:18 GTRsdk hey neko259
05:18 GTRsdk err
05:18 GTRsdk NekoGloop:
05:18 NekoGloop XD
05:18 cornernote NekoGloop, use sfan5's builds
05:19 cornernote it shouldnt error
05:19 NekoGloop It does.
05:19 cornernote oh :(
05:19 cornernote ok
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05:19 hmmmm hmm
05:19 NekoGloop Or it should.
05:19 hmmmm what if the emerge thread was more than one thread
05:20 hmmmm i'm looking at the environment lock and i'm thinking it's overly broad
05:21 hmmmm at the very least, multiple make_block() calls can be deferred over multiple worker threads of the emerge thread which handles the environment lock itself
05:21 hmmmm and the make_block calls don't lock anything, lighting is deferred to the emerge parent thread
05:30 GTRsdk Is there a way to generate a small map so less RAM is used?
05:30 NekoGloop Nope.
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05:41 GTRsdk hmm
05:42 GTRsdk so if I understand this correctly, I would need to know C++ to modify it to always generate smaller maps?
05:42 Calinou "smaller maps"? you mean limiting world size? possible in lua
05:43 Calinou replace anything at (some X, Y or Z coordinate) with an invisible but walkable block
05:43 Calinou or glass
05:46 GTRsdk well basically to save on RAM and other resources
05:50 Calinou generating a wall of blocks doesn't take much resources
05:51 hmmmm he's an end user, he can't do that
05:53 GTRsdk lol hmmmm
05:54 hmmmm to me, it seems like something that'd be way better implemented in the engine
05:54 hmmmm can simply not queue a block generation if it's outside of the user-specified bounds
05:55 hmmmm iirc it's already hardcoded for +-32768
05:57 * GTRsdk greps for that in the code
05:57 hmmmm so you're able to modify and compile the source on your own?
05:57 hmmmm i'll find the line number for you
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05:59 GTRsdk hmm... I see multiple occurrences of it. Is it only 1 spot that has to be changed?
05:59 hmmmm GTRsdk:  constants.h, line 63
05:59 hmmmm change the value of MAP_GENERATION_LIMIT to whatever you'd like
06:00 GTRsdk Thanks
06:00 hmmmm yw
06:00 GTRsdk 3 block world! :D
06:00 RealBadAngel hi
06:01 GTRsdk nah just kidding
06:01 hmmmm haha, that'd be 0
06:01 hmmmm probably crash
06:01 GTRsdk hmmmm: Would unmodified clients work with a server with a smaller/larger map?
06:02 hmmmm yes
06:02 hmmmm you shouldn't make it larger than 31000, there would be problems
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06:30 Calinou <hmmmm> he's an end user, he can't do that
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06:30 Calinou see bedrock mod
06:30 Calinou now do 5 other walls like this = world size actually limited
06:30 hmmmm oh, why didn't you just say there's a mod for it
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06:34 Calinou https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/src/mapgen.cpp < so dungeon generation code is still there? why is it disabled?
06:38 Calinou khonkhortisan: added pull request :D
06:42 cornernote windows installer wizard (done) - http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3283
06:43 * Calinou updated to chromium 24
06:43 * Calinou enabled "do not track"
06:58 tripod awesome
06:58 tripod hopefully luakit does the same using smae webkit version
06:59 khonkhortisan yay!
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07:13 khonkhortisan Calinou, know a good recipe for right-handed half stairs?
07:14 khonkhortisan Anyone use a graphical git client other than windows github?
07:14 whirm khonkhortisan: gitg
07:18 khonkhortisan huh. git-gui forgot to put itself in $PATH. I guess I won't use it then.
07:18 khonkhortisan installing gitg...
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07:19 Bonsaiheld hello
07:20 Bonsaiheld i just registered on irc to ask something... i'm playing on a server, where the admin doesnt seem to have any mod installed which could help me. my problem: i'm stuck inside a hole i made, i can't get out and i can't suicide. is there any built-in command like /killmyself or something? :(
07:20 Bonsaiheld if not, i have to wait for the admin to come online... reset me and then install a mod for this.
07:21 khonkhortisan Congratulations for registering on irc!
07:21 Bonsaiheld :)
07:22 khonkhortisan do you have interact privileges? Did the ground reappear when you dug it?
07:23 khonkhortisan You should be able to get out by digging up and jumping, or by placing stuff under you and jumping.
07:23 Bonsaiheld the /privs command says something about "interact"... and i think you mean lagg. na, there isnt.  i just cant get out, im deep under the surface, like -280
07:23 Bonsaiheld oh i forgot. i cant dig anything -> no sticks left
07:24 Bonsaiheld and i cant built something to jump from because the caves i made a too small for this
07:24 RealBadAngel no /harakiri or /seppuku ? ;)
07:24 Bonsaiheld gonna try, but i dont think :P
07:24 RealBadAngel ask some1 to come to you and bring some resources needed
07:24 Bonsaiheld no one online
07:24 Bonsaiheld we only got like 3-4 players ;)
07:25 khonkhortisan yeah, minetest is still macgyver-proof
07:25 Bonsaiheld (server is run on a tiny PandaBoard and SD-flashcard)
07:25 khonkhortisan I could get you out maybe
07:25 Bonsaiheld i dont know how u would do that but u can try
07:26 Bonsaiheld etwas.selfhost.me : 30000
07:26 Bonsaiheld oh yeah, i think u can just dig down to me and rescue me LOL
07:27 Bonsaiheld oh no, wait
07:27 whirm lol, there are even rescue operation in minecraft!
07:28 khonkhortisan /spawn, /home, /kill, all are mods
07:28 Bonsaiheld no no... u cant help me. the admin has made that no new player has rights to do anything. u cant even dig blocks. :(
07:28 Bonsaiheld forgot that, sorry :/ darn
07:28 khonkhortisan then you need to have a chat with the admin.
07:28 Bonsaiheld meh.
07:28 khonkhortisan gameboom is set up like that
07:29 Bonsaiheld ok, then i just have to wait... thank you
07:32 Calinou <khonkhortisan> Anyone use a graphical git client other than windows github?
07:32 Calinou lol graphical clients...
07:32 Calinou winblows github is meh
07:34 khonkhortisan I learned cli git, I wanted to see what graphical was like, and wine won't load the github one
07:50 Bonsaiheld anyway... thanks for wanting to help, i really appreciate that. im out then. see ya (:
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08:45 Calinou the CLI git is just fine and works
08:47 cornernote windows client works fine for me
08:47 cornernote when it doesnt, command line works fine too
08:53 Calinou the commandline git on windows is terrible
08:53 Calinou it isn't even official
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14:31 thexyz khonkhortisan: gitk
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14:53 Jordach hello :)
14:53 Jordach hello sfan5
14:53 sfan5 hi
14:53 Jordach OldCoder - good morning
14:57 OldCoder Jordach, hello
14:57 Jordach PC-BSD, Y U BURN SO SLOW?!
14:58 OldCoder CUZ I AM ALL LAID BACK
14:58 OldCoder BERKELEY YOU KNOW
14:58 OldCoder
14:58 OldCoder :-)
14:58 OldCoder
14:58 OldCoder <--- He was there
14:58 OldCoder
14:59 Jordach sfan5 http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=46046#p46046#
14:59 Jordach move my old wool and panes into old mods
15:00 sfan5 done
15:01 Jordach sfan5, geez alexcraft can revive dead topics
15:01 Jordach gets annoying with the clone requests
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15:08 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
15:09 OldCoder PilzAdam, Hello
15:09 Jordach hello PilzAdam
15:18 NakedFury hello peoples
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15:29 Jordach bbl
15:32 jordan4ibanez good day
15:33 PilzAdam sup, jordan4ibanez
15:34 jordan4ibanez nothing
15:34 jordan4ibanez i cannot push minetest any further
15:34 jordan4ibanez it irritates me that this is the limit
15:35 PilzAdam when will be lets play part 2?
15:35 jordan4ibanez later hopefully
15:35 jordan4ibanez ive got ffmpeg to record full speed
15:44 PilzAdam bbl
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15:46 jordan4ibanez i wonder if it would be possible to push everything back into c++
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15:59 NekoGloop Mornin peoples
16:05 RealBadAngel morning gloopes
16:05 NekoGloop Heh.
16:05 RealBadAngel :)
16:05 RealBadAngel howdy?
16:05 NekoGloop You workin on tubes?
16:06 RealBadAngel a little, got lotsa work irl
16:06 NekoGloop Heh.
16:06 RealBadAngel really, lately im workin 12-14 hrs/day
16:07 RealBadAngel its end of the season, now everybody is in hurry
16:07 NekoGloop True.
16:07 RealBadAngel investors are idiots
16:08 RealBadAngel when winter ends nobody thinks bout doors, windows etc
16:08 RealBadAngel because summer comes
16:08 NekoGloop Then the bugs come xD
16:08 RealBadAngel when it ends, everybody comes, and says me me me i was 1st
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16:09 RealBadAngel half of the season we r sittin waitin for customers
16:09 RealBadAngel doin almost nothin
16:09 RealBadAngel then at the end we workin at two shifts
16:10 NekoGloop I'm working on a gamemode.
16:10 RealBadAngel customers are fuckin idiots
16:10 RealBadAngel that will never change
16:10 NekoGloop I need crops for my farming, have any ideas?
16:11 RealBadAngel harvest idiots heads
16:11 NekoGloop XD
16:11 RealBadAngel i will be pleased then
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16:11 NekoGloop I could do that xD
16:11 RealBadAngel go for it
16:11 NekoGloop But i mean things with a use.
16:11 NekoGloop Actual crops.
16:12 NekoGloop I'm just flat out of ideas.
16:12 RealBadAngel with a head?
16:12 RealBadAngel football game
16:12 NekoGloop No. XD
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16:12 RealBadAngel or polo
16:12 * PilzAdam is back
16:12 NekoGloop Hello adam
16:12 RealBadAngel hi adam
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16:12 RealBadAngel shoes off, end of work for today
16:13 RealBadAngel anybody want to smell the socks? ;)
16:13 NekoGloop Have you thought of making a quarry?
16:13 NekoGloop Your way of powering things though would complicate it a bit.
16:14 RealBadAngel the quarry?
16:14 RealBadAngel not really
16:14 RealBadAngel quarry head will be made out of nodebreakers
16:14 NekoGloop Well i've been watching yogscast tekkit. :P
16:14 RealBadAngel attached to frames
16:15 RealBadAngel mesecons pulse, collect, head down, pulse, head up, forward
16:15 RealBadAngel repeat
16:16 NekoGloop Hm...
16:16 RealBadAngel ive made such machine in mc
16:16 RealBadAngel took me two weeks
16:16 NekoGloop I know mc can do it with some mods.
16:16 rubenwardy1 GitHub is acting wierd today
16:18 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, im talkin bout real machine, consist of hundreds of blocks (nodes)
16:18 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: You should make a machine that when it has a mesecon signal, gives out power.
16:18 RealBadAngel complex electronic circuit to control it
16:18 NekoGloop And i know what you mean lol.
16:18 RealBadAngel all build such way you can go through water, lava or stone
16:19 RealBadAngel or stand aside and controll it with remote
16:19 RealBadAngel thats the real power of complex mods
16:20 RealBadAngel you can invent something here
16:20 NekoGloop Yup.
16:20 RealBadAngel and thats the real freedom of sandox game
16:21 RealBadAngel with given tools build somethin authors wouldnt even imagine
16:21 RealBadAngel thats the real power of minetest like games
16:21 jordan4ibanez dirt is what is causing massive holes in superflat
16:22 RealBadAngel ive read the topic in theisonews.com about casual games
16:22 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: It cant be too hard to make the pipes transport liquid, can it?
16:22 RealBadAngel one idiot put minecraft and whole genre together with tetris and pacman
16:23 RealBadAngel and asked "i played minecraft for 10 minutes and i cant understand why milions like it"
16:23 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, not at all, same as items
16:24 RealBadAngel when items are done, so are liquids
16:24 NekoGloop Cept you used on_step
16:24 RealBadAngel no, i didnt
16:24 NekoGloop on_step crashes in windows.
16:24 RealBadAngel well
16:24 NekoGloop Says something about trying to index a number.
16:24 RealBadAngel i did
16:24 RealBadAngel but prevented any possible errors
16:25 RealBadAngel im double checkin for nils etc
16:25 NekoGloop Can you make an option like "on_step_allow=false" or something?
16:25 RealBadAngel im doin better
16:25 NekoGloop Wait, lemme get on my computer to see if it actually does crash with your implementation.
16:25 RealBadAngel when its interrupted, by save
16:25 RealBadAngel or a crash, not caused by me
16:26 RealBadAngel which means actual data loss
16:26 NekoGloop Crash is most likely part of mt.
16:26 RealBadAngel i do check if object still exists (is loaded back), so the variables exists
16:32 khonkhortisan gitg, which whira told me about, doesn't understand that origin can have both a push and a pull repo.
16:34 khonkhortisan gitk looks better
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16:37 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: they work! omg!
16:37 NekoGloop but they just dump the items instead of putting them in anywhere.
16:37 RealBadAngel what works?
16:38 NekoGloop tubes
16:38 RealBadAngel ofc they do work
16:38 RealBadAngel iventory search and destination is not done
16:38 NekoGloop tubes wont connect to anything though.
16:38 RealBadAngel they can
16:39 RealBadAngel to anything marked as tubedevice=1
16:39 NekoGloop eh...
16:39 RealBadAngel so deployers, nodebreakers and gold chests by now
16:39 NekoGloop i hate people who think that i can magically automatically have everything at the latest version
16:40 RealBadAngel automagically you should say
16:40 RealBadAngel hehehe
16:40 RealBadAngel saturday i will have next free day
16:41 RealBadAngel so i will finish the path and destination code
16:41 NekoGloop sweet
16:41 NekoGloop I shall work on my gamemode
16:41 RealBadAngel path is already here
16:41 RealBadAngel i just have to sort it reverse
16:41 RealBadAngel from destination, through parents
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16:42 RealBadAngel and then just follow it
16:42 RealBadAngel i made deep search with parents remeberin variation
16:42 NekoGloop can you, by chance, give me the improved furnace code you claim to have?
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16:43 RealBadAngel its already in the code you have access to
16:43 RealBadAngel take electric furnace
16:43 T_A_N_K time for superflat haxxx!
16:43 RealBadAngel and treat energy buffer as to be filled with coal burn time
16:44 NekoGloop i asked a question.
16:44 RealBadAngel replace energy with burn time
16:44 NekoGloop how the fuck do i do thaT?
16:44 RealBadAngel and take it from coal or anythin burnable
16:44 RealBadAngel and then you will have nice and sweet buffered furnace
16:45 NekoGloop dude. I want what i asked for.
16:45 RealBadAngel with readable code
16:45 RealBadAngel ok
16:45 RealBadAngel got a crate of beer?
16:45 NekoGloop no.
16:45 RealBadAngel so no furnace ;)
16:46 NekoGloop 1) too young to drink
16:46 NekoGloop 2) no
16:46 NekoGloop gimme furnace.
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16:46 RealBadAngel 1) too old to not to drink
16:46 RealBadAngel 2) yes
16:46 RealBadAngel .. gimme that duckin crate
16:47 NekoGloop here: http://thetekkit.wikia.com/wiki/Empty_Booze_Barrel
16:47 RealBadAngel on the other hand its not as hard for this evening
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16:47 RealBadAngel want me to make the furnace now?
16:47 NekoGloop yes.
16:48 RealBadAngel ok then
16:48 khonkhortisan someone either has to be on the forum or the server for some time before being old enough to drink
16:48 RealBadAngel gimme 30-60 minutes then
16:48 RealBadAngel hehhee
16:49 RealBadAngel shut up now and dance, im goin to code
16:49 RealBadAngel but wait
16:49 RealBadAngel got an idea
16:50 RealBadAngel find a way to swith on/off fly mode
16:51 RealBadAngel without terminal commands
16:51 RealBadAngel ive made jetpack and lackin the way to activate/deactivate it
16:52 khonkhortisan isn't flying in the client?
16:52 RealBadAngel dunno, havent played with it
16:52 khonkhortisan I think it is (based on there being a flying cheat)
16:52 NekoGloop yes.
16:52 RealBadAngel i need to turn it on when jetpack is active
16:52 NekoGloop free_move.
16:53 NekoGloop good luck getting the going through blocks fixed though.
16:53 RealBadAngel and turn it off when run out of energy or deactivated
16:53 khonkhortisan you'd have to write your on physics collider in lua
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16:53 RealBadAngel not rly
16:53 RealBadAngel all is alredy here
16:54 khonkhortisan if in_node move_player(find_air())
16:54 VanessaE hi
16:54 khonkhortisan hello
16:54 RealBadAngel thats for sure
16:54 PilzAdam hi
16:54 RealBadAngel hi VanessaE
16:54 RealBadAngel it could be not logical to allow fly with jetpack through stone
16:55 khonkhortisan you need the OO flag
16:55 RealBadAngel but 1st what is needed to on/off fly mode
16:55 khonkhortisan (oscillation over-thruster)
16:56 khonkhortisan /grant only lets them turn it on themselves
16:56 NekoGloop how do i make a value in a variable negative?
16:56 PilzAdam *-1
16:56 NekoGloop eh?
16:56 khonkhortisan a = -a
16:56 PilzAdam or a = a*-1
16:57 khonkhortisan if a > 0 a = -a
16:57 PilzAdam -math.abs(a)
16:57 khonkhortisan ^
16:57 khonkhortisan a = -math.abs(a)
16:58 NakedFury if 1 + 1 = 2 then a = 3 -1
16:58 khonkhortisan that's a test for a number system other than decimal?
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16:59 NakedFury no idea, just wanted to join the math conversation
16:59 NakedFury :D
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16:59 NekoGloop ok, i just made my treasure chests have items in them based on the level of the chest.
16:59 NekoGloop (stack numbers included.)
17:00 khonkhortisan moreores pickaxes need spaces in their descriptions
17:00 * PilzAdam reworked the signs mod of xyz: http://ompldr.org/vZnI1Nw/signs.zip
17:00 PilzAdam the mod now has a easier input system
17:00 NekoGloop Khon: ???
17:01 khonkhortisan "Gold Axe" "GoldPickaxe" "Gold Shovel" the pickaxe needs a space
17:01 NekoGloop it has one
17:01 NekoGloop :P
17:01 khonkhortisan maybe I should update
17:02 OldCoder Update is Great
17:02 OldCoder Not always
17:03 VanessaE speaking of updates, homedecor got another this morn.
17:03 VanessaE could use some testers on this one
17:03 OldCoder VanessaE, is it ready to go?
17:03 VanessaE yes
17:03 OldCoder Is it on with the show?
17:03 OldCoder Let me know
17:03 OldCoder So
17:03 OldCoder I can Update!
17:03 OldCoder
17:03 OldCoder Very Well; Ring the Bell
17:03 OldCoder update!
17:04 OldCoder Servers going down
17:05 OldCoder Servers going up
17:06 OldCoder VanessaE, test homedecor in any world that contains it
17:06 VanessaE actually I need others to test it this time :-0
17:06 VanessaE :-)
17:06 OldCoder Oh?
17:06 OldCoder All right
17:06 OldCoder There's no fright
17:06 VanessaE tell me if there are any bugs I didn't catch
17:06 * VanessaE rewrote doors from scratch
17:06 OldCoder It is up to you to recruit such testers
17:06 VanessaE nodebox-based, entirely new open/close/flip code
17:07 OldCoder Sounds nice
17:07 OldCoder And price-
17:07 OldCoder less
17:07 OldCoder I want more worlds!
17:07 OldCoder :-)
17:07 OldCoder So nobody saved the best of the 0.3 worlds? Too bad
17:08 NekoGloop material bricks, what materials should i use from the default game?
17:08 NekoGloop (like moreblocks stone bricks, just different thingies ^^)
17:08 VanessaE anything you want :D
17:08 OldCoder RealBadAngel, check out new homedecor as VanessaE says it you will adore. More homedecor.
17:09 VanessaE (translation:  huh?)
17:09 OldCoder Homedecor is to adore
17:09 NekoGloop you do know that the stone bricks are from homedecor?
17:09 NekoGloop ugh.
17:09 NekoGloop moreblocks*
17:09 NekoGloop not homedecor.
17:09 OldCoder Who me? You see. I cannot tell.
17:09 OldCoder I assume you speak to VanessaE
17:09 RealBadAngel negative means just multiply it by -1
17:10 RealBadAngel so no abs needed
17:10 khonkhortisan than a negative turns into a positive. I believe the goal was to make it negative.
17:10 RealBadAngel - times - will give +
17:10 NekoGloop the goal was to make it invert
17:10 khonkhortisan oh.
17:10 VanessaE NekoGloop: of course I know, just didn't quite understand what you were getting at regarding "other" bricks
17:10 RealBadAngel from -  invert is +
17:11 VanessaE (materials that is)
17:11 NekoGloop like sandstone, desert stone...
17:11 VanessaE oh.  not sure really
17:11 VanessaE I never thought to take a count of them
17:11 RealBadAngel anyways: losing the sign is math.abs(number)
17:12 RealBadAngel inverting is =number * -1
17:12 OWNSyouAll VanessaE: is there any documentation of adding custom ores into the world generation?
17:12 VanessaE OWNSyouAll: only what's in the API, and I've never read up on how ore generation works
17:12 VanessaE NekoGloop would knoew
17:13 VanessaE :-)
17:13 RealBadAngel abs stands for absolute
17:13 RealBadAngel no matter the sign
17:13 OWNSyouAll NekoGloop: is there any documentation of adding custom ores into the world generation?
17:13 NekoGloop no documentation but i can help you.
17:13 RealBadAngel OWNSyouAll, read moreores mod code
17:14 NekoGloop nonono
17:14 RealBadAngel that explains everythin
17:14 NekoGloop you'll just confuse the shit out of him
17:14 RealBadAngel no it wont
17:14 RealBadAngel i did and have my own ores
17:14 NekoGloop look in default\mapgen.lua
17:14 OWNSyouAll NekoGloop: ok i got the function from mapgen.lua but i just don't know what any of the variables in that function do like chunks_per_volume, chunk_size, ore_per_chunk,
17:14 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: you ~= everyone else
17:14 NekoGloop oooh. ok.
17:15 RealBadAngel added Zinc for VanessaE yesterday
17:15 RealBadAngel its easy as well eating cakes
17:16 NekoGloop well, chunks_per_volume affects the rarity.... somehow. chunk_size is how large each "chunk" of ore should be at max. ore_per_chunk is how many ore should be in each "chunk". Think of the "chunks" as mineral deposits, because that's what they are.
17:16 RealBadAngel OWNSyouAll, dowload moreores, and look for old_init.lua
17:16 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: stfu, you arent helping.
17:16 RealBadAngel thats better for understanding
17:16 OWNSyouAll RealBadAngel: generate_ore("moreores:mineral_copper", "default:stone", minp, maxp, seed+16,   1/11/11/11,    8, -31000,  64)
17:16 OWNSyouAll that is all thats in moreores
17:16 OWNSyouAll it dosent help much
17:16 NekoGloop OWNSyouAll: read what i said above.
17:16 RealBadAngel need explanations for the numbers?
17:17 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: i dont think he needs your help.
17:18 RealBadAngel Calinou made a version with variables instead of those numbers
17:18 OWNSyouAll in moreores they set chunks_per_volume to 1/11/11/11
17:18 OWNSyouAll is that supposed to mean there is one ore per a 11 block 3d-space?
17:18 RealBadAngel i helped him a bit with it, so im sure
17:18 RealBadAngel so its more readable for sure
17:19 NekoGloop OWNSyouAll: I'm not sure what that does. But whatever it does, it doesnt seem to affect much.
17:19 RealBadAngel wait
17:19 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: WILL YOU JUST STFU ALREADY?!
17:19 RealBadAngel and meanwhile dance
17:19 RealBadAngel generate_ore("moreores:mineral_mithril", "default:stone", minp, maxp, get_next_seed(),
17:19 RealBadAngel 1/moreores_mithril_chunk_size/moreores_mithril_chunk_size/moreores_mithril_chunk_size, moreores_mithril_ore_per_chunk, moreores_mithril_min_depth, moreores_mithril_max_depth)
17:20 RealBadAngel thats with variables
17:20 NekoGloop that doesnt help.
17:20 NekoGloop he wants to know what they do.
17:22 RealBadAngel no comments. i think the line i posted is self explanatory
17:24 NekoGloop and your mind is equivalent to a supercomputer.
17:24 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=46071
17:24 NekoGloop just because you and i understand it, doesnt mean he has any idea what you jsut said.
17:24 RealBadAngel ha ha ha, laughed the queen and went to wash the socks...
17:24 NekoGloop PilzAdam: good. now make them not look like crap.
17:25 MiJyn hi
17:25 PilzAdam hi
17:25 NekoGloop I.E. limit the lines so that the textures dont look like shit
17:25 PilzAdam they are
17:25 VanessaE PilzAdam: think you could work in multiple font sizes?  (one size per sign)
17:26 PilzAdam VanessaE, move it to mod releases
17:27 VanessaE PilzAdam: need a version number in the subject, and an updated screenshot would be good.
17:27 VanessaE (xyz's screenshots sucked last time I looked :-) )
17:27 NakedFury is it possible to link command inputs to signs? example: /giveme or /give Stone 30.  Sign says Stone and when you hit it it gives the player the amount listed. Only admins could do this or players with the priviladge.
17:28 VanessaE *looks again* yeah, they still suck :D
17:28 VanessaE PilzAdam: I made some nice textures for those signs btw
17:28 VanessaE at least in HDX; scaled down, and tinted a bit, they look good at 16px too
17:30 VanessaE PilzAdam: also, add a note for the minimum version of the game (by git commit hash) that is needed for signs to work and not glitch out
17:30 PilzAdam all done: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=46071#p46071
17:31 VanessaE nice
17:32 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I see you are technicing
17:32 RealBadAngel im testin my stuff in multiplayer
17:32 NekoGloop limit the stuff to 4 lines
17:32 VanessaE PilzAdam: moved
17:32 NekoGloop ( PilzAdam )
17:33 PilzAdam NekoGloop, what?
17:33 NekoGloop limit it to 4 lines
17:33 PilzAdam why?
17:33 PilzAdam because MC has it?
17:34 NekoGloop because if not, and you get farther away, it looks like shit.
17:34 * PilzAdam is testing...
17:34 NekoGloop unreadable.
17:34 VanessaE PilzAdam: larger font sizes would really be appreciated - I find the one thexyz and you used to be too small to read from a distance.
17:34 MiJyn I think I'm gonna abandon the project
17:34 VanessaE MiJyn: abandon what, MT?  why?
17:35 PilzAdam VanessaE, i dunno how to change the font size; ive only changed the input system
17:36 VanessaE PilzAdam: literally, you just use a larger size in the images - I tried it once.  I didn't change the line spacing, but simply using larger images was enough to change their visible size
17:36 MiJyn VanessaE, the APIs... C55 doesn't want them, and what's the use of making APIs that no one is going to use?
17:36 VanessaE e.g. a 15-pixel tall "A" instead of 6 or whatever it is now
17:36 VanessaE MiJyn: what APIs?
17:37 MiJyn VanessaE, the vehicle/mob ones
17:37 PilzAdam /giveme VanessaE:font_textures
17:37 NakedFury but they are needed
17:37 VanessaE PilzAdam: the "A" was drawn 15 pixels tall, overlapping the line below
17:37 NekoGloop MiJyn: ignore what c55 says. I'd use them.
17:37 NakedFury we would ALL use them
17:37 VanessaE I might be convinced to make a larger font later :-)
17:37 PilzAdam VanessaE, i will try to make it larger
17:38 NakedFury im gonna be frank. minetest(and minecraft)without modding would not interest me at all
17:38 NakedFury what keeps them alive is modding
17:38 NakedFury if you do mobs then make an api, I am 100% sure everyone would use it
17:39 MiJyn NakedFury, I'm not sure ALL would be the correct word (recompiling minetest...)
17:40 NakedFury ok then do a survey on the forums. survey or poll
17:40 NakedFury just ask if the chance came would people use the api or not
17:42 MiJyn hmm
17:48 NekoGloop i have 3 igneous rocks! :D
17:49 NekoGloop obsidian, basalt, and pumice.
17:49 NekoGloop obsidian is water touching lava source
17:49 NekoGloop basalt is water source touching flowing lava
17:49 NekoGloop pumice is flowing water touching flowing lava
17:49 khonkhortisan So the lava in a moving volcano will create those rocks?
17:50 NekoGloop hm?
17:50 NekoGloop if you get a volcano, which is impossible btw, yes.
18:03 OldCoder No volcanoes? A major omission! :-)
18:04 PilzAdam OWNSyouAll, http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=46078#p46078
18:06 NekoGloop OldCoder: as soon as i can, i will
18:07 OldCoder Lava buries the land. Very well.
18:08 khonkhortisan volcanoes and geysers are needed
18:09 NekoGloop sure.
18:09 VanessaE did anyone try this morning's homedecor update?
18:09 khonkhortisan no
18:09 VanessaE :(
18:09 khonkhortisan trying it now
18:10 khonkhortisan has the fridge been fixed?
18:10 VanessaE yes.
18:10 VanessaE as far as I know there are no major bugs or glitches
18:11 NekoGloop http://ompldr.org/vZnI2cg
18:11 NekoGloop the start of a house from obsidian, basalt, and pumice.
18:12 VanessaE looks more like stone and wool for the basalt and pumice :-)
18:12 NekoGloop obsidian is the floor, basalt is the black parts of the walls, pumice is the white.
18:12 NekoGloop if you have a better texture, please, share.
18:12 khonkhortisan aw I can't place a fridge on the ceiling
18:12 VanessaE I don't :-)
18:13 VanessaE khonkhortisan: I know.
18:13 VanessaE that's deliberate :-)
18:13 khonkhortisan I know it would be easy to move it down one
18:14 khonkhortisan huh. A door will place on the ceiling.
18:14 VanessaE it shouldn't
18:14 khonkhortisan maybe because I have a special kind of door
18:14 VanessaE ?
18:15 khonkhortisan I have a right-handed door, the mod that did that might have modified the regular door
18:15 VanessaE ah
18:16 khonkhortisan Does your door place on ceilings?
18:16 VanessaE no
18:16 khonkhortisan ok
18:17 PilzAdam random: https://github.com/PilzAdam/item_drop/commit/12fdaab4cb9e8930b7a0bbd66919b374d9ba5a4e
18:19 NekoGloop make it check if the velocity of the dropped item is 0/nil
18:19 NekoGloop (0 or nil)
18:19 PilzAdam why?
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18:20 khonkhortisan for throwing arrows maybe?
18:20 NekoGloop then it is only picked up if the item is immobile, so it's REALLY easy to drop them. :D
18:21 PilzAdam it works good at the current state
18:21 VanessaE does it still crash the server from time to time? ;-)
18:21 PilzAdam no... ?
18:21 VanessaE just giving you a hard time :-)
18:22 VanessaE last time I played with it, it crashed quite frequently particularly with mesecons
18:22 PilzAdam when was "last time"?
18:22 VanessaE a few weeks ago
18:23 VanessaE :-)
18:23 VanessaE so yeah I've been too lazy to update :D
18:23 PilzAdam i use it all the time and it never crahes
18:23 PilzAdam but mesecons has some strange effect on it
18:24 NekoGloop because derp
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18:24 VanessaE define "strange effect"
18:24 PilzAdam e.g. if a wire turns to a reciever of a button, a mesecon wire is dropped
18:24 PilzAdam so i have 2
18:24 VanessaE weird
18:25 PilzAdam mesecon is strange
18:25 NekoGloop because of how it makes the wires change.
18:25 PilzAdam yep
18:25 PilzAdam it seems hacky
18:25 NekoGloop no, just uses the wrong function
18:26 NekoGloop and for removal of the previous node it should use...
18:26 * NekoGloop looks in lua api
18:26 NekoGloop instead of set_node it should use add_node
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18:27 NekoGloop remove_node
18:27 NekoGloop oh wai
18:27 NekoGloop wait*
18:27 NekoGloop dammit celeron why the hell did you remove that functionality.
18:27 NekoGloop wait nvm
18:27 PilzAdam gtg
18:27 PilzAdam bye
18:27 NekoGloop currently it uses place_node, correct, VanessaE?
18:28 VanessaE NekoGloop: derp?
18:28 VanessaE ;)
18:28 VanessaE actually in mesecons I'm not sure what's used
18:28 NekoGloop answer the question please.
18:28 VanessaE in my code I use add_node(), remove_node(), and in one instance, dig_node()
18:28 NekoGloop i cant check because opening another tab in n++ i'll crash my computer
18:30 VanessaE mmmm
18:30 VanessaE yeah place_node is used in a couple of spots in mesecons
18:30 NekoGloop that's the problem
18:30 VanessaE namely in those receivers
18:30 NekoGloop replace it with add_node or set_node
18:30 NekoGloop (both do the same thing)
18:30 NekoGloop place_node emulates a player digging it and placing another node there.
18:31 VanessaE ah
18:31 rubenwardy1 what is the name of your village on Redcrab 0.4.3 server, VanessaE
18:32 VanessaE the only example of it in mesecons:   Minetest-Textures-and-mods/mods/minetest-mod-mesecons/mesecons_receiver/init.lua:  minetest.env:place_node(pos, {name = "mesecons:wire_00000000_off"})
18:32 VanessaE rubenwardy1: "Greenvale"
18:32 NekoGloop try changing that to set_node
18:33 VanessaE you're probably right.  I'll mention it to Jeija.
18:33 T_A_N_K wait a second, why does the creative inventory do this? why doesn't it just check if the player is on creative, then give the player 1 item which is infinite?
18:33 VanessaE (I don't wanna break something obscure)
18:34 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: likely because that's impossible
18:34 NekoGloop creative inventory is 100% lua
18:34 T_A_N_K but all you have to do is just add the item back into the inventory when they place it
18:34 VanessaE should give the player 9999 of the item, that would have the same effect.
18:34 NekoGloop I give the player 65535 in my gamemode
18:34 T_A_N_K = infinite item illusion
18:34 VanessaE now mind you,
18:34 khonkhortisan it could have infinite items if it stored item meta, and checked that item for the infinite metavariable when dropping
18:35 VanessaE frankly I think the concept of a "regular" inventory in creative mode is stupid
18:35 VanessaE at least as currently used
18:35 khonkhortisan you want more separation between the modes
18:35 NekoGloop khonkhortisan: itemstack can have meta.
18:35 khonkhortisan yeah
18:35 NekoGloop just... celeron didnt put any function to change it
18:35 khonkhortisan ?
18:36 NekoGloop it's there, you just can't put anything in it
18:36 NekoGloop all due to no "set_meta" for itemstack
18:36 VanessaE there should be a hotbar of course, but the CI menu on left should overtake the rest of the inventory space, and there should also be buttons to go to first/last page and maybe a handful of programmable shortcut buttons e.g. "Go to default", "Go to homedecor", etc.
18:36 T_A_N_K and also, why doesn't it just instantly break the item you punch? there is no need for a special ultra reset of the node drops, all you have to do is on punchnode, remove node, node update, bam instant block breaking
18:36 khonkhortisan meta = itemstack:get_metadata()   meta:set_bool("infinite", true) ?
18:36 khonkhortisan it can't be done the same way as nodes?
18:37 NekoGloop i have no idea
18:37 NekoGloop havent messed around with it too much
18:37 NekoGloop but how do you make itemstack.metadata = meta when you're done?
18:37 NekoGloop oh wait, i just answered my own question.
18:37 khonkhortisan meta is a pointer-type thing
18:38 khonkhortisan when you change meta it changes where you got it from
18:38 VanessaE and the hotbar should automatically swap out whatever stack you drop something on for the stack that was dropped
18:38 NekoGloop VanessaE: this is possible.
18:38 VanessaE because now as it is, after a while you end up with a full inventory and no way to dump everything out when you're done
18:38 VanessaE you have to drag, drop, click, drag, drop, click...  20 or more times
18:39 NekoGloop I'm making a function to clear player inventory
18:39 VanessaE maybe just having a button to empty all but the hotbar would be enough.
18:39 VanessaE (need to always be able to keep something there such as a mese pick, torches, etc)
18:39 khonkhortisan git stash inventory; mv creative; git checkout master; git pop inventory
18:39 VanessaE haha
18:40 khonkhortisan which is worse, waiting for a pull request to be merged, or waiting for server owners to update the mod?
18:41 VanessaE waiting for server owners :-)
18:42 OldCoder VanessaE, But that can be dealt with
18:42 VanessaE yup
18:42 OldCoder If you *promise*
18:42 OldCoder to release only perfect mods
18:42 OldCoder That will not break my servers
18:42 OldCoder then they will obediently
18:42 OldCoder update automatically
18:42 OldCoder
18:42 OldCoder :-)
18:42 T_A_N_K i wish i could make mesecons torches update a lot faster
18:43 T_A_N_K oh wait...
18:44 khonkhortisan ugh I wanted to try out my new stairsplus commit, so I opened a new browser tab. Habits are good as long as you don't cross-wire them
18:45 khonkhortisan oh yeah, the not gate isn't wallmounted.
18:46 NekoGloop shouldnt be anyway.
18:46 VanessaE T_A_N_K: torches as inverters are obsolete :-)
18:46 NekoGloop but maybe we want vertical?
18:46 NekoGloop which uses torches
18:47 VanessaE ok almost obsolete :-)
18:52 OldCoder VanessaE, do you Twit?
18:52 khonkhortisan woohoo! walkable sierpinski!
18:54 OldCoder VanessaE, what was in the latest home decor changes?
18:54 VanessaE OldCoder: new doors, new wall-mounted lights
18:54 OldCoder k
18:54 OldCoder I am Twitting it
18:54 VanessaE rewrote all doors code to sweep that buggy old zlpdoors out of existence
18:54 VanessaE I have a twitter account but I do not use it.
18:54 khonkhortisan Made possible by that piece I'm looking at http://www.flickr.com/photos/79516830@N05/8054445785/in/photostream/lightbox/
18:54 OldCoder all right
18:55 OldCoder Reviewing
18:55 OldCoder That's a different pickaxes. Where does it come from?
18:55 NekoGloop Admin pick
18:55 OldCoder Ah
18:55 khonkhortisan admin pickaxe from calinou's maptools in a modpack with stairsplus
18:55 NekoGloop looks like Zanite from MC Aether though
18:56 khonkhortisan buy one get four free
18:56 NekoGloop how about buy zero get over nine thousand free?
18:56 khonkhortisan zero dig time and digging non-diggable stuff
18:56 NekoGloop i like that offer! :D
18:56 khonkhortisan do the work one time, get paid over and over :P
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19:01 T_A_N_K xp mod http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3291
19:02 T_A_N_K people seem to be beefing on it because it is like minecraft, but it would open the door to mods like enchanting, spells, upgrades, economy, ranks, and other things
19:03 NekoGloop i need the follwing images: salt, iron (NOT STEEL, THE TWO ARE DIFFERENT NOW) ingots
19:03 NekoGloop default style please ^^
19:11 rubenwardy bye
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19:14 OldCoder LAD, wb
19:14 LAD thnx glad to be back XD
19:17 NekoGloop should i make obsidian bricks?
19:17 OldCoder Of course
19:17 khonkhortisan why not?
19:17 OldCoder Who would like to suggest a new mod today?
19:17 khonkhortisan But if you do, it could be tied into moreblocks and made into tiling
19:17 OldCoder Rather a mod I should add
19:18 NekoGloop well other than currently i need some use for it because RealBadAngel hasnt given me that improved furnace code yet...
19:20 NekoGloop I'm gonna make a furnace that runs at 2x speed, and one that runs at 3x speed
19:20 NekoGloop steel for the 2x one, obsidian for the 3x one
19:20 NekoGloop the steel one will use a furnace in the recipe
19:27 VanessaE bbl
19:28 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, sorry was busy talkin
19:28 RealBadAngel i got furnace stripped of any power usage
19:29 RealBadAngel and renamed
19:29 RealBadAngel will finish the code tommorow to burn the coal to fill the buffer
19:29 NekoGloop i dont want a buffer
19:30 RealBadAngel listen
19:30 RealBadAngel the idea is to cut it
19:30 RealBadAngel cook and get
19:30 RealBadAngel no matter what the power is used to cook
19:31 NekoGloop default furnace effect, your improvements.
19:31 NekoGloop that's all i want.
19:31 NekoGloop nothing gameplay-wise.
19:31 RealBadAngel lemme finish it tommorow then
19:31 NekoGloop I dont want it tomorrow~
19:31 NekoGloop !*
19:31 NekoGloop I want it now!
19:32 RealBadAngel ive separeted furnace code from energy sources now
19:32 NekoGloop oh just screw it
19:32 khonkhortisan that requires a sonic screwdriver
19:32 RealBadAngel youre just impatient
19:33 NekoGloop I dont wanna have something to be done tomorrow when it's a critical point in my gamemode
19:33 khonkhortisan I have to wait for my pull request to be seen, but you don't hear me talking about it. Wait, Oops.
19:33 RealBadAngel why so?
19:34 NekoGloop because this is the building point for other things.
19:36 RealBadAngel bout could you understand i worked today for 12hrs, came here, made some code, talked a bit
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19:36 RealBadAngel and im damn tired
19:36 RealBadAngel too tired to finsh it?
19:36 NekoGloop jsut send me what you have
19:36 RealBadAngel hold on
19:37 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/coal_furnace.lua
19:39 RealBadAngel i need just too add to it coal burning process and convert it to time
19:40 RealBadAngel all the needed code is in coal generator
19:40 RealBadAngel sry but im not 20yrs old anymore
19:41 RealBadAngel 40yrs on the back makin me tired and want to go to sleep
19:41 NekoGloop all this damn spacing
19:41 NekoGloop looks so goddamn unproffesional
19:41 RealBadAngel sure
19:42 RealBadAngel kiss me space :P
19:42 RealBadAngel *my
19:43 RealBadAngel look
19:43 RealBadAngel take the code
19:43 RealBadAngel fill EU_buffer with smelting coal
19:43 RealBadAngel or whatever
19:43 RealBadAngel furnace will work then
19:43 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Relax and proceed one step at a time
19:44 OldCoder RealBadAngel, This should be fun and interesting. Go rest.
19:44 NekoGloop I'm gonna do this my own way.
19:44 RealBadAngel yes it is
19:44 RealBadAngel i like NekoGloop
19:44 OldCoder That is good
19:44 NekoGloop eh?
19:45 RealBadAngel but sometimes im just tired too much
19:45 OldCoder Oh, yes
19:45 OldCoder Believe me I can relate
19:45 RealBadAngel youre older so im sure you know what im talkin about
19:45 * OldCoder laughs
19:45 OldCoder Older plus some crap; so yes
19:46 RealBadAngel heheh
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19:46 OldCoder I pass out a couple of times a day
19:46 OldCoder Or did; this week seems all right
19:46 OldCoder Go rest
19:46 OldCoder Read a book
19:46 OldCoder Wait; see my poem
19:46 RealBadAngel we are havin a season's high now
19:46 OldCoder I'll link you
19:46 OldCoder Season?
19:46 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/artwork/poetry.html#SECTION06
19:46 RealBadAngel so sometimes almost 12hrs of work/24
19:47 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Review the poem
19:47 OldCoder It seems to apply
19:47 RealBadAngel on sunday i were home 11pm
19:47 RealBadAngel beat it
19:47 OldCoder Answer is not to attempt everything all at once
19:47 RealBadAngel free day i had yesterday
19:47 OldCoder And to accept exhaustion as normal
19:47 RealBadAngel slept all day
19:48 RealBadAngel fuckin customers made it so
19:48 OldCoder Heh
19:48 OldCoder http://www.customerssuck.com/
19:49 RealBadAngel winter comes so every1 wants everything to be done NOW
19:49 OldCoder Of course
19:49 RealBadAngel but those bastards were sleepin a few months ago
19:49 RealBadAngel just now they woke up
19:50 RealBadAngel not when its hot, nice
19:50 RealBadAngel but when their asses can feel winter comin
19:50 RealBadAngel all of them
19:51 RealBadAngel im workin with customers for like 20 yrs by now
19:51 RealBadAngel heard "customer is our master"
19:52 RealBadAngel fuck
19:52 RealBadAngel customer is our enemy
19:52 NekoGloop if so, you''re screwed.
19:52 RealBadAngel hes got our money
19:52 RealBadAngel and fuck him
19:53 OldCoder RealBadAngel, that is IRL. In this world you have Technic.
19:53 OldCoder And you are the master.
19:53 RealBadAngel lol
19:53 OldCoder There are different parts to life
19:53 OldCoder You understand this by now
19:53 RealBadAngel i would rather stay technical advisor
19:53 OldCoder I still want the Open Music project, you know
19:54 RealBadAngel i know
19:54 OldCoder Maybe in the Spring
19:54 OldCoder When the Customers go off and do
19:54 RealBadAngel i wrote to AndySynthe
19:54 OldCoder whatever they do when the weather is nice
19:54 RealBadAngel he said hes short on time
19:54 OldCoder It is a simple matter
19:54 OldCoder He needs to decide
19:55 OldCoder Does he wish his music to live on? At no risk to him or his rights?
19:55 RealBadAngel you know, hes makin music for rulin party in poland
19:55 OldCoder Then assign the license: CC-BY-SA-NC 3.0 Unported
19:55 RealBadAngel so rather busy
19:55 OldCoder That is fine
19:55 OldCoder There is no time required
19:55 OldCoder He need only assert the license
19:56 RealBadAngel i can answer
19:56 OldCoder Actually it is:
19:56 RealBadAngel take it
19:56 OldCoder CC BY-NC-SA
19:56 OldCoder Go on
19:56 OldCoder Take it? Do you have the author's approval?
19:56 RealBadAngel if he will argue i will buy him a beer
19:56 OldCoder Best settle it in advance
19:56 RealBadAngel i can do so
19:56 OldCoder CC BY-NC-SA 3.0 Unported
19:57 OldCoder that is the license that is needed
19:57 OldCoder For music to live forever
19:57 RealBadAngel fuck the letters
19:57 RealBadAngel i know the guy from sandbox
19:57 OldCoder as you wish
19:57 RealBadAngel real sandbox
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19:57 OldCoder Then share a beer or a shovel with him
19:58 OldCoder We will discuss this when you are rested
19:58 OldCoder For now
19:58 OldCoder Relax. What goes into Technic next?
19:58 RealBadAngel look. if i know the guy for 30 yrs of my 40yrs life
19:58 OldCoder That is fine
19:59 RealBadAngel so i know what im talkin abot
19:59 OldCoder I believe you
19:59 RealBadAngel thats a friendship
19:59 OldCoder Yes. Must be nice.
19:59 OldCoder I have one person like that. The one who lives in a candle flame.
20:00 RealBadAngel he is real
20:00 OldCoder So is mine
20:00 OldCoder Just a poetic allusion; it's on my site
20:00 OldCoder He actually visits here when he can
20:00 OldCoder LM cost me one of the visits
20:00 OldCoder
20:00 OldCoder RealBadAngel, we'll discuss music another time
20:01 OldCoder I regret mentioning the issue
20:01 RealBadAngel sure
20:01 RealBadAngel nah
20:01 OldCoder It was simply a reflective thought
20:01 RealBadAngel i havent forgot
20:01 OldCoder What are the plans for Technic?
20:01 RealBadAngel ive passed it further
20:01 OldCoder Not today; in general?
20:02 RealBadAngel Andy Synthe was pleased with the idea
20:02 OldCoder Glad to hear it
20:02 RealBadAngel he just said he doesnt have much spare time
20:02 OldCoder His time is not needed
20:02 OldCoder You are familiar enough
20:02 OldCoder All that is needed is his consent
20:02 OldCoder To those letters
20:02 OldCoder
20:03 OldCoder It can be put aside for now
20:03 RealBadAngel i think i will handle this
20:03 OldCoder As you wish
20:03 OldCoder Rest
20:04 RealBadAngel he made music for my demos and games
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20:04 RealBadAngel hes one of most valuable friends
20:04 OldCoder Good
20:04 RealBadAngel so
20:05 RealBadAngel if i decide its worth
20:05 RealBadAngel it will be his voice
20:05 RealBadAngel and i KNOW hes doin the same
20:06 NekoGloop_ well i cant get that thing to work
20:06 OldCoder RealBadAngel, It's fine
20:06 NekoGloop_ so I'll just change the default furnace
20:06 RealBadAngel NekoGloop_, wait for next day just
20:07 RealBadAngel i willl finish the code
20:07 RealBadAngel dont push me
20:11 RealBadAngel mining drill needs a sound
20:14 NekoGloop_ recipe for a steel furnace that DOESNT conflict with technic would be...?
20:15 RealBadAngel no
20:15 RealBadAngel changed it to stone just
20:16 RealBadAngel same as regular but not cobble but smooth stone
20:16 NekoGloop_ I'm making a steel one that operates at a higher rate.
20:17 RealBadAngel code you have is free of any restictions
20:17 RealBadAngel just fill the buffer
20:17 NekoGloop_ I want a recipe lol
20:17 NekoGloop_ wait nvm
20:17 NekoGloop_ my bad
20:17 NekoGloop_ forgot technic iron chests have a chest in the center.
20:18 RealBadAngel minetest.register_craft({
20:18 RealBadAngel output = 'technic:coal_furnace',
20:18 RealBadAngel recipe = {
20:18 RealBadAngel {'default:stone', 'default:stone', 'default:stone'},
20:18 RealBadAngel {'default:stone', '', 'default:stone'},
20:18 RealBadAngel {'default:stone', 'default:stone', 'default:stone'},
20:18 RealBadAngel }
20:18 NekoGloop_ I wanna make a STEEL one
20:18 NekoGloop_ there will still be normal furnace, just this one in addition.
20:18 RealBadAngel so replace it
20:19 RealBadAngel code is on github
20:19 RealBadAngel and this in your hands
20:19 NekoGloop_ as well as my computer :P
20:19 RealBadAngel so go for it
20:20 RealBadAngel when done you wil be credited as always
20:20 NekoGloop_ I'm makin this for my gamemode lol
20:20 NekoGloop_ not directly for technic XD
20:20 RealBadAngel whatever
20:21 RealBadAngel do and you will be kissed in da ass
20:21 RealBadAngel allright?
20:21 RealBadAngel :)
20:21 NekoGloop_ my ass will feel special.
20:21 NekoGloop_ :D
20:21 RealBadAngel genau
20:22 RealBadAngel so dance, dance
20:22 RealBadAngel no kisses for free
20:23 NekoGloop_ can you make it so that a power source next to a machine will power it, and i don't have to get wire?
20:24 RealBadAngel against the rules
20:24 NekoGloop_ why?
20:24 RealBadAngel no wire no power
20:24 RealBadAngel no machine = who the fuck are you??
20:25 RealBadAngel get out
20:25 NekoGloop_ but i can plug something in directly without wire.
20:25 RealBadAngel dildo?
20:25 NekoGloop_ XD
20:26 RealBadAngel lets stick to technic way :)
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20:33 NekoGloop_ now, i attempt this: http://thetekkit.wikia.com/wiki/Energy_Condenser
20:33 NekoGloop_ (or something with similar effect)
20:34 RealBadAngel wrong mod
20:34 NekoGloop_ ?
20:34 NekoGloop_ didn't you hear me?
20:34 NekoGloop_ I wanna try that.
20:34 RealBadAngel i know it
20:34 OldCoder NekoGloop_, he is pretty tired
20:35 NekoGloop_ i dont give a shit if it's not the mod you're basing technic off of.
20:35 RealBadAngel its magical
20:35 NekoGloop_ OldCoder: i know
20:35 NekoGloop_ so is mese
20:35 NekoGloop_ :D
20:35 RealBadAngel no
20:35 OldCoder mesemagic
20:35 RealBadAngel look
20:36 NekoGloop_ I won't make it operate NEARLY as fast as it does in tekkit.
20:36 RealBadAngel start from here
20:36 NekoGloop_ That's not even possible in mt.
20:36 RealBadAngel EMC
20:36 RealBadAngel energy equivalent
20:36 RealBadAngel all nodes, ores are having EMC
20:37 NekoGloop_ i know.
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20:37 RealBadAngel Energy Matter Credit,
20:37 RealBadAngel so
20:38 RealBadAngel with magical energy you are able to transmute stone into gold
20:38 RealBadAngel but
20:38 RealBadAngel stone is worth lets say 1 EMC
20:38 RealBadAngel and gold 100
20:39 NekoGloop_ isn't that how the Energy Condenser works?
20:39 RealBadAngel so you need to "sacrrifice" 100 stone to get one gold
20:39 RealBadAngel no
20:39 RealBadAngel that device was overpowered
20:39 NekoGloop_ mainly because it went so fast.
20:39 RealBadAngel it collected sunlight to produce EMC
20:40 RealBadAngel listen
20:40 NekoGloop_ ???
20:40 NekoGloop_ I'm listening, you aren't explaining.
20:40 RealBadAngel i made contraptions that produced diamond blocks
20:40 RealBadAngel out of pure EMC
20:40 RealBadAngel from sunlight
20:41 RealBadAngel 30 diamond blocks per minute
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20:41 OldCoder jordach_tablet2, wb
20:41 RealBadAngel and that was fuckin overpowered
20:42 jordach_tablet2 damnit
20:42 NekoGloop_ alright, how about this.
20:42 RealBadAngel one diamond was 8192 stone
20:42 RealBadAngel diamond block *9
20:42 RealBadAngel * 30 per minute?
20:43 RealBadAngel mayhem
20:43 NekoGloop_ 270 diamonds per minute.
20:43 NekoGloop_ yes i just did that.
20:43 NekoGloop_ in my head.
20:43 NekoGloop_ now listen to me.
20:43 RealBadAngel k
20:43 jordach_tablet2 i jUst broke ThE boot Records...this keyboard also sucks ass
20:44 RealBadAngel sorry
20:44 RealBadAngel need to go shoppin
20:44 NekoGloop_ I make it so this "transmuter" or whatever have a default time.
20:44 RealBadAngel brb
20:44 NekoGloop_ this default time is incredibly high.
20:44 NekoGloop_ and then group "shifttime" can change it.
20:45 RealBadAngel neko: i will be back shortly, hold on
20:46 NekoGloop_ kk.
20:46 NekoGloop_ after this thing works, we will talk about balancing it.
20:50 khonkhortisan what would be a good way to start a race if you didn't have mesecons?
20:50 NekoGloop_ by saying "GO"
20:51 khonkhortisan so, a referee
20:52 khonkhortisan my test world is a mess
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21:01 RealBadAngel back
21:02 RealBadAngel what a weather
21:02 RealBadAngel wanted to rip my ass head off
21:02 RealBadAngel windy as hell, and raining
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21:04 NekoGloop_ ok.
21:04 RealBadAngel 10 minutes trip on a bike and i feel like goin through storm
21:04 RealBadAngel nvm
21:04 RealBadAngel im back neko
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21:05 RealBadAngel btw
21:05 tittielover1982 Sup ppl
21:05 RealBadAngel ive added new ore to technic
21:05 RealBadAngel noticed?
21:06 NekoGloop_ zinc
21:06 RealBadAngel yup
21:06 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Indicate when and if technic is ready to update
21:06 RealBadAngel vanessaE asked
21:06 RealBadAngel OldCoder, tomorrow, bout the same time
21:07 OldCoder All right. No rush.
21:07 RealBadAngel not yet, please
21:07 OldCoder Sure
21:07 RealBadAngel i will shout for sure
21:07 RealBadAngel :)
21:07 khonkhortisan When running off a cliff, if you fall one node, you can reach a ledge 8 nodes away. It takes two nodes to reach full speed. After the first node of falling, you can go another two nodes forward for every node down.
21:08 RealBadAngel OldCoder, but i would love to shout more for an eu server
21:08 RealBadAngel and donate to it
21:08 NekoGloop_ most people don't use fast_move to play legit.
21:09 khonkhortisan So if you had floating nodes you could run down them if they were spaced every 8
21:09 OldCoder RealBadAngel, the idea is fine. I have one associate who may be able to help. I talk to him every few days. One issue, though, is that I must catch up with some real-life issues.
21:09 RealBadAngel i do have an opportunity
21:10 OldCoder Hmm?
21:10 RealBadAngel means i shall pay
21:10 OldCoder For server? May not be necessary; we'll see
21:10 RealBadAngel and EU server could come true
21:10 RealBadAngel i do own domain
21:10 OldCoder It is not magic; just a VPS :-)
21:11 RealBadAngel yes
21:11 OldCoder It will be fine in the end
21:11 RealBadAngel but its paid
21:11 khonkhortisan Is it true that without a bucket there's no way to build down if you're in the air?
21:11 OldCoder This is something new?
21:11 RealBadAngel they demand 60 pln / 3 months
21:11 khonkhortisan Without suicide-building?
21:12 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I can probably take care of it
21:12 RealBadAngel hold on
21:12 OldCoder I need time; just as you do for projects
21:13 RealBadAngel 1 PLN = 3,17 USD
21:13 OldCoder That is too expensive
21:13 OldCoder Wait
21:13 OldCoder Yes; too much
21:13 OldCoder I can probably beat that by a wide margin. I'll need to see.
21:13 RealBadAngel 19 USD per 3 months for a server
21:14 OldCoder No
21:14 OldCoder I think you have it backwards
21:14 RealBadAngel nope
21:14 RealBadAngel you did
21:14 OldCoder 60 pln / 3 months
21:14 OldCoder Oh?
21:14 RealBadAngel rly
21:14 OldCoder 60PL is over $180 USD
21:14 OldCoder Correct?
21:14 OldCoder 60PLN* is over $180 USD
21:14 RealBadAngel lol
21:14 OldCoder ?
21:14 OldCoder You said
21:15 OldCoder 1 PLN = 3,17 USD
21:15 RealBadAngel different direction
21:15 RealBadAngel i have to multiply
21:15 RealBadAngel youre dividing
21:16 OldCoder You said:
21:16 OldCoder All right
21:16 OldCoder No
21:16 OldCoder 1 PLN = 3,17 USD
21:16 OldCoder Therefore
21:16 OldCoder 60PLN is more then $180 USD
21:16 OldCoder Simple.
21:16 RealBadAngel ooooops
21:16 OldCoder Ha
21:16 RealBadAngel wrong way
21:16 NekoGloop_ ok.
21:16 NekoGloop_ My thingy is working
21:17 RealBadAngel dollar is worth more
21:17 Basstard` What's the currency in Minetest?
21:17 NekoGloop_ and also isnt immensely overpowered
21:17 RealBadAngel mese
21:17 NekoGloop_ Basstard`: mese or gold if moreores is installed.
21:17 khonkhortisan there's no default currency, it uses a barter system
21:18 RealBadAngel what bout technic or glooppores?
21:18 khonkhortisan Because you have to install mods instead of inventing crafts in-game, no one really prints currency
21:18 khonkhortisan I haven't used gloopores yet, it's new
21:18 RealBadAngel they have no use
21:18 Basstard` The currency has to be connected to real life currency.
21:19 NekoGloop_ gloopores makes tools & blocks.
21:19 RealBadAngel NekoGloop_, dont ya think?
21:19 NekoGloop_ gloopores will make stuff in technic... eventually.
21:19 RealBadAngel mese r better
21:19 RealBadAngel i would love to
21:20 RealBadAngel but not the tools way
21:20 NekoGloop_ i know
21:20 RealBadAngel lets unite
21:20 NekoGloop_ akalin and kalite should be able to be doped onto wafers.
21:20 NekoGloop_ all gloopores should be grindable into dust.
21:20 RealBadAngel but not with such stupid names
21:20 NekoGloop_ ;_;
21:21 NekoGloop_ my names arent stupid ;_;
21:21 RealBadAngel dont smile on me
21:21 OldCoder they are fine
21:21 OldCoder And those are tears btw
21:21 RealBadAngel hahhaha
21:21 RealBadAngel ok
21:21 RealBadAngel neko
21:21 RealBadAngel listen now
21:22 RealBadAngel lets make this clear and easy
21:22 RealBadAngel i know how you also do
21:23 RealBadAngel you had excelllent idea to make it in the desert
21:23 NekoGloop i was pissed that after 50 spawns in the desert i had no materials.
21:23 khonkhortisan has working pipeworks been released yet?
21:23 RealBadAngel we shall make some kind of ore dictionary
21:24 RealBadAngel khonkhortisan, all i done is on github
21:24 RealBadAngel not perfect yet
21:25 NekoGloop coal, iron, mese, copper, tin, bronze, silver, gold, mithril, alatro, kalite, arol, akalin, talinite, chromium, uranium, diamond, stainless steel, and zinc.
21:25 RealBadAngel hmmmmz
21:25 RealBadAngel hold on
21:25 RealBadAngel stop runniing
21:25 NekoGloop I'm not running anywhere.
21:25 NekoGloop :D
21:25 khonkhortisan I'm trying to find one you forgot to mention and am failing at it
21:26 RealBadAngel please tell me
21:26 khonkhortisan oil doesn't count
21:26 RealBadAngel your ores were just a try
21:26 NekoGloop an attempt of the ore generation code, yes.
21:26 RealBadAngel i can make ores so i made them
21:26 Basstard` Pyrite?
21:26 RealBadAngel yup?
21:26 Basstard` Pyrite!
21:27 NekoGloop I'm still pissed only one of my headphones work.
21:27 RealBadAngel stfu
21:27 RealBadAngel lol
21:27 RealBadAngel you dont want to my be operational
21:27 khonkhortisan nyan cats could be renamed to unobtanium
21:27 NekoGloop now i have normal furnace, steel furnace, obsidian furnace, and transmuter.
21:27 RealBadAngel neko
21:28 NekoGloop yes?
21:28 RealBadAngel lets switch to pric
21:28 RealBadAngel priv
21:28 NekoGloop kk.
21:28 khonkhortisan ...and the channel goes quiet...
21:28 TheLandMine joined #minetest
21:29 NekoGloop wow.
21:29 Basstard` Lovers
21:29 TheLandMine ?
21:30 khonkhortisan ¿
21:33 khonkhortisan "Your Most Recent Gists" shouldn't link to a page that says "The Gist you were looking for has been deleted"
21:34 khonkhortisan either remind me and give it to me or hope I forget about it so you don't have to tell me you deleted it
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21:51 * khonkhortisan is stuck in a segfault loop
21:59 khonkhortisan gdb tells me there's a SIGSEGV in GenericCAO::addToScene(irr::scene::ISceneManager*, ITextureSource*, irr::IrrlichtDevice*) ()
22:05 khonkhortisan I think the world went bad
22:06 RealBadAngel real bad
22:06 RealBadAngel you better hide
22:06 khonkhortisan I do that anyway
22:07 RealBadAngel deep
22:07 FreeFull I'm thinking a bad pointer
22:07 FreeFull Or irrlicht bug
22:08 khonkhortisan other worlds work
22:08 RealBadAngel and im thinkin of bad c55
22:09 khonkhortisan There should be a way to make a solid node climbable.
22:09 khonkhortisan Like how you can climb brick but you can't climb glass
22:09 RealBadAngel yup
22:10 RealBadAngel fork
22:10 NekoGloop there is.
22:10 RealBadAngel c55 is away
22:10 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Still awake?
22:10 RealBadAngel yeah
22:11 RealBadAngel got one beer more
22:12 RealBadAngel once done, im down
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22:26 khonkhortisan the textures of bricks and moreores checkered stuff isn't correct on the corners. I don't mean which direction the grain goes, I mean which material is where (brick/mortar, wood/stone)
22:29 khonkhortisan If you look at the top face of brick and see mortar on the edge, then look at the side and see brick on the top, that leads you to believe that mortar is a triangular prism instead of the rectangular prism it should be.
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22:57 * VanessaE is back
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23:13 Octupus Hola
23:14 VanessaE hi
23:14 T_A_N_K how does one create a creative server?
23:15 Octupus easy
23:15 Octupus go in advanced
23:15 T_A_N_K what is the variable in the .conf file?
23:15 Octupus click creatve :D
23:15 Octupus i think its /set -n creative_mode = true
23:16 T_A_N_K hmmm
23:16 khonkhortisan I changed a file, but git diff found a change at the bottom at the file that I don't remember adding. So I piped it to file, then back to patch -R, then only my change is there. I like knowing how this stuff works.
23:17 Octupus T_A_N_K,How is minetest essentials now?
23:18 T_A_N_K well everyone said it sucked, so i just stopped developing it and decided to improve parts of the game
23:18 Octupus who said it sucked
23:18 khonkhortisan probably because it only has essentials and not the whiz-bang stuff
23:19 Octupus i thought it was great
23:19 T_A_N_K i was going to create a limiter, so players can only go so far
23:19 T_A_N_K to save map space and cpu
23:20 NakedFury http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/essentials/
23:20 NakedFury recreate that in mt
23:20 T_A_N_K that's what i was doing
23:20 T_A_N_K i already "ported" in standalone shops
23:20 T_A_N_K scs
23:20 T_A_N_K but right now i am working on creative mode, so brb
23:21 Octupus ok
23:22 NakedFury http://wiki.ess3.net/wiki/Command_Reference
23:25 Octupus_ joined #minetest
23:26 Octupus_ my other acc need to time out
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23:35 Octupus hm
23:37 Octupus i wanna make a texture pack for mt and site i can use no dload needed
23:37 NakedFury you want a site to host the files?
23:38 Octupus yes
23:38 NakedFury mediafire
23:38 Octupus yes but a site i can create textures
23:38 NakedFury I dont think that is posssible
23:38 NakedFury you do them on paint programs not on websites
23:38 Octupus i dont wanna use paint
23:39 NakedFury sad
23:39 Octupus thats gay
23:39 khonkhortisan gimp!
23:39 Octupus time to disk cleaner the cp
23:39 NakedFury paint.net and gimp are free
23:39 FreeFull You can write a program that generates textures procedurally
23:40 Octupus yes but they require dwload
23:40 Octupus im a kid not a coding master :D
23:40 khonkhortisan new gimp has single-window mode where the close button closes the file instead of the program, and an export button where the save button should be
23:40 khonkhortisan I think imagemagick does image scripting stuff
23:41 Octupus whats that?
23:41 khonkhortisan a cli image editor
23:41 Octupus oh
23:42 khonkhortisan Use a graphical text editor and a cli image editor, and the world will be perfect.
23:42 Octupus hmm
23:43 Octupus i might just deinstall realplayer and itunes
23:43 khonkhortisan it makes more sense to use a text text editor and an image image editor, but people don't usually do that
23:43 Octupus to gert gimp
23:43 Octupus *get
23:43 Octupus because its useless
23:44 khonkhortisan 2.9 is slightly annoying compared to 2.8
23:44 Octupus itunes?
23:44 khonkhortisan gimp
23:44 Octupus ah
23:44 khonkhortisan afaik itunes is a website
23:45 FreeFull It isn't
23:45 NakedFury itunes is a program
23:45 khonkhortisan does it work on anything other than iStuff?
23:46 NakedFury no
23:46 khonkhortisan that's why I don't know much about it
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23:48 Octupuslegs opps
23:48 Octupuslegs i put legs
23:48 Octupuslegs XD
23:48 Octupuslegs srry i left i had to leave the internet to remove itunes
23:48 khonkhortisan that's like putting Eskovez
23:48 khonkhortisan oh it's you. I didn't even recognize you because the color of your username changed.
23:49 khonkhortisan I thought a new person joined
23:49 Octupus lol
23:49 khonkhortisan I know octupuslegs goes by octupus but I didn't connect that with who I was just talking with
23:49 Octupus just waiting for itunes to deinstall
23:50 Octupus XD
23:50 khonkhortisan it seems it's easier to correctly uvmap a checkered cube than it is a brick one.
23:51 Octupus so how rubix cube going
23:51 khonkhortisan If you click on the center of a face it will rotate clockwise. It works, but it's not easy to use.
23:51 ecube banned landmine? :o 189.144.*.* and 189.191.*.* were his IP's, and after I iptables'd him away, he got a proxy and came on, saying how I banned all the mexican IP's
23:51 ecube it was funny
23:52 Octupus 'lolz
23:52 khonkhortisan I take it he's not mexican
23:52 Octupus lm is mexican
23:53 ecube idfc
23:53 ecube he was like, I see you banned all the mexican IPs.
23:53 Octupus did you
23:53 ecube but he was using a different name
23:53 Octupus ohh
23:53 ecube everything else was the same though
23:54 ecube and i can't believe i believed him >.<
23:54 Octupus but did u actually ban all mexican ips?
23:54 ecube no
23:54 Octupus oh :)
23:54 ecube i set iptables DROP on 189.144.*.* and 189.191.*.*
23:54 Octupus oh
23:54 ecube because his IP's follow that pattern
23:55 ecube Hm. I haven't seen milleja46 in a long time.
23:55 * khonkhortisan is jealous; his router doesn't allow changing settings
23:55 Octupus me either
23:55 milleja46 ecube: I've been here, but kinda faded away once you stopped really having servers
23:55 ecube lol
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23:55 khonkhortisan I type my username so much I think /me in my head and type /khonkhortisan
23:55 ecube khonkhortisan: I didn't use the router
23:55 ecube I blocked him from my comp
23:55 milleja46 me and tuqz still hang out on #cubemt though he's asleep right now
23:55 khonkhortisan firewall?
23:56 M13_ joined #minetest
23:56 M13_ Vanessa
23:56 VanessaE hm?
23:56 ecube milleja46: we hang out a lot on irc.wazuclan.com #wazuclan, if you're interested
23:56 Octupus hi m13
23:56 M13_ Whats up with this? : http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2012-08-11
23:56 ecube khonkhortisan: iptables -A input -j DROP -s <IP_address>
23:56 Octupus y cant i get on yo server
23:56 khonkhortisan VanessaE, I see you were watching the conversation without saying anything, that wasn't a full reference to your name
23:56 milleja46 ecube: me and tuqz stay on #cubemt in hopes that you would maybe come back and host a server again :P
23:56 ecube lol
23:56 milleja46 your servers when they did run and running good, were amazing
23:56 khonkhortisan my router is closed too tight for my firewall to do much
23:57 VanessaE khonkhortisan: I said I'm back and then said hi :-)
23:57 ecube my servers died
23:57 ecube so now i help admin my clan's server instead
23:57 VanessaE and my client highlights on "vanessa" with or without the "E"
23:57 ecube lol
23:57 khonkhortisan cool
23:57 Octupus i wish ecube hosted a server again
23:57 milleja46 ecube: so what if only a few players played? it was nice to have a small server to play on :P
23:57 M13_ Octupus its up and there are ppl on it IP : m13.sytes.net  Port : 30001
23:57 T_A_N_K you guys are going to love the creative mode
23:57 VanessaE M13_: which part?
23:57 Octupus can u bring me down from 29999 lm put up there yesterday
23:58 ecube T_A_N_K: ?
23:58 T_A_N_K of minetest fancy, i'm creating a much better creative mode
23:58 milleja46 hrmm I'm half tempted when I get a job to switch from verizon to sprint XD
23:58 ecube T_A_N_K: does one already exist?
23:58 milleja46 sprint is the only one with unlimited stuff >_>
23:58 T_A_N_K not what i'm doing
23:58 M13_ Ur talking Crap about me and Keegan (WITH celeron55)!!!!!!!
23:58 Octupus so ecube y not host 1 again
23:59 ecube my clan has a small-ish one
23:59 ecube and it's pretty good itself
23:59 NekoGloop meow.
23:59 ecube lol
23:59 M13_ if you have something to say to me say it Dont like me find logs
23:59 milleja46 ecube: yea but the server you hosted was nicer :P
23:59 VanessaE M13_: um, no.  Look at the date of that post - that was almost a month ago.  And it was one line because Keegan was asking for a hacked client - something he had been told he would not receive.
23:59 Octupus your server was the best though
23:59 Octupus it only got dead because the ip change
23:59 milleja46 Octupus: true that
23:59 ecube because of the IP change... AND because of minetest.ru

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