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Time Nick Message
00:00 OldCoder NekoGloop, it's probably one of the mods
00:00 NekoGloop once an hour?
00:00 OldCoder ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error running function 'on_step': ...mes/skyblock_game/mods/skyblock/api_achievements.lua:98: attempt to index local 'digger' (a nil value)
00:00 OldCoder I don't know yet
00:00 OldCoder We'll see
00:00 RealBadAngel who saw this movie?
00:00 NekoGloop cant be, it's been fine for a long time
00:00 OldCoder NekoGloop, It is auto-restarting now
00:00 OldCoder Crashed half an hour ago for example
00:00 OldCoder While I was away
00:01 OldCoder ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaE
00:01 OldCoder rror: error: ...mes/skyblock_game/mods/skyblock/api_achievements.lua:70: bad argument #1 to 'get_meta' (table expected, got nil)
00:01 OldCoder You're getting errors like these
00:01 OldCoder But if it restarts maybe it will be fine
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00:02 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra6_6gOGK6E&feature=related my version: fnjiasvbcasdjkadfjklagndfjkabgvfjdkl;fjdks;agbidasodjklagbfjkdlabgjfk;agbjrkae;nbfane bl'rfnadigr;aenigrnaevbkl;f nadh;gbfid;hag fd;abjkadf;bn fjk;vadbfd;aubgr;eaobhf.... eh, close enough
00:02 OldCoder ?
00:02 NekoGloop the song
00:04 OldCoder joined #minetest
00:05 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, here you can check how polish can handle all that yaps shit and turn it into art
00:05 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO7NIkmw_V8
00:06 NekoGloop w.t.f.
00:06 NekoGloop i say: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahCgADqInX8&feature=relmfu
00:08 RealBadAngel i say:
00:08 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjWNC4cYCIM&feature=related
00:09 RealBadAngel opera way
00:10 RealBadAngel jammed?
00:11 VanessaE "Server shutting down"?
00:11 NekoGloop ?
00:11 NekoGloop yes the server shut down
00:11 VanessaE (skyblock)
00:11 NekoGloop it restarts automatically
00:11 VanessaE what crashed it this time?
00:11 NekoGloop i have no fucking clue
00:12 NekoGloop but i was placing a lot of nodes
00:12 VanessaE I was placing a bunch of desert sand
00:12 NekoGloop so was i
00:13 NekoGloop ok, THAT was my fault
00:13 Basstard` Please don't place desert sand.
00:13 NekoGloop damn dry shrub was in the way of my falling desert sand
00:13 VanessaE that's what I did yesterday to crash the server
00:13 VanessaE falling sand -> dry shrub entity gets buried -> crash
00:14 OldCoder NekoGloop, VanessaE I will analyze the logs
00:14 NekoGloop we need a /clearobjects
00:14 OldCoder And pass them on to the author
00:14 NekoGloop no wait its fine
00:14 NekoGloop bug in MT
00:14 VanessaE OldCoder: and this is a fairly old bug too
00:15 OldCoder VanessaE, Oh? Known issue?
00:15 OldCoder O.K. then
00:15 OldCoder Restart is working O.K. ?
00:15 VanessaE yup, known bug
00:15 OldCoder k
00:15 VanessaE but I don't think c55 really cares to fix it
00:15 VanessaE it's existed since 0.4.1-dev
00:15 VanessaE or earlier
00:15 OldCoder Maybe we can do it
00:15 OldCoder Eventually
00:15 RealBadAngel just found great version of "pirates of the carribean" made by that orchestra
00:15 OldCoder Same one as this morning then
00:16 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPGxQA6dy_4&feature=BFa&list=PL37FDAE5DC10073F0
00:16 RealBadAngel how do you find it?
00:23 NekoGloop meow
00:25 * OldCoder puts down a kitty treat
00:25 RealBadAngel woof
00:26 * NekoGloop grabs the treat ^w^
00:26 RealBadAngel have you guys seen The Rock?
00:27 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD9gd25ySOA
00:27 * NekoGloop bites the treat ^w^
00:28 RealBadAngel have you neko get softened with power of western music? :)
00:28 RealBadAngel no more manga?
00:29 NekoGloop manga ~= anime ~= vocaloid
00:30 RealBadAngel i guess youre explain
00:30 RealBadAngel so youre down
00:31 RealBadAngel or?
00:31 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znir_s4Q9BA&feature=g-vrec
00:32 RealBadAngel lets eat ur answer
00:35 NekoGloop "sequel" to the above: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOIxHLGWgQE&feature=relmfu
00:38 RealBadAngel reply to both of them:
00:38 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0LD2GnxmKU
00:38 RealBadAngel beat it
00:39 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPuvmAFlklA&feature=related
00:44 NekoGloop and if that isnt enough: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=lPjW_9KZo8M
00:47 RealBadAngel calm down with this
00:47 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U_5WneKKX8
00:48 NekoGloop aaaaaaaah!!!
00:49 NekoGloop it's beating on my eardrums!
00:49 RealBadAngel at least
00:49 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=co6gYkelPOY
00:51 Basstard` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_rBidCkJxo
00:51 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-WI3IHkf0E OPPAN SLENDER STLYE
00:52 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I want to put your music box online
00:52 OldCoder Shall I
00:52 OldCoder The MT one
00:52 RealBadAngel and you call it a beat?
00:52 RealBadAngel how dare you
00:52 NekoGloop a beat?
00:52 NekoGloop what?
00:52 RealBadAngel u pasted
00:52 NekoGloop i pasted slender style
00:52 NekoGloop :D
00:52 RealBadAngel sucks my socks
00:53 RealBadAngel oldcoder: sure
00:53 OldCoder k
00:53 OldCoder Post a ZIP somewhere sometime
00:53 OldCoder Gets its own server
00:53 RealBadAngel OldCoder, its also ur work
00:53 OldCoder Oh :-)
00:53 OldCoder Yes
00:53 OldCoder Fun
00:53 RealBadAngel hold on
00:54 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPUhjcqfeqw beat this
00:54 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/techic_mod/music/skaven_music_pack.zip
00:54 OldCoder RealBadAngel, If there is no readme could you paste some notes please?
00:54 OldCoder Downloading
00:55 OldCoder Notes would explain what this is, how to use it, novel aspects
00:55 OldCoder Even a few sentences
00:55 OldCoder You are writing for a museum and a live exhibition
00:55 VanessaE How do I make mossy cobblestone in skyblock?
00:55 cisoun joined #minetest
00:55 NekoGloop junglegrass + cobble Vanessa
00:55 VanessaE ah
00:56 VanessaE interesting recipe.
00:56 RealBadAngel OldCoder, titles are in the forums
00:56 RealBadAngel neko:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVjeheaFfsM
00:56 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVjeheaFfsM
00:56 OldCoder Titles?
00:56 RealBadAngel eat this
00:56 OldCoder Oh
00:57 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I mean your MT music box
00:57 OldCoder That was you, right?
00:57 RealBadAngel sorry we got music battle here
00:57 RealBadAngel with neko
00:57 OldCoder k
00:57 OldCoder Another time
00:58 RealBadAngel yaps vs west culture
00:58 OldCoder k
00:58 RealBadAngel music pack link is in the forums
00:58 NekoGloop excuse me while i clean my eardrums out
00:59 RealBadAngel http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2538
00:59 RealBadAngel hehhe
00:59 RealBadAngel OldCoder, here you get it
00:59 OldCoder k
00:59 OldCoder Thx
01:01 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, somethin for chill out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7-q1WRaKNg
01:01 RealBadAngel old and cool
01:01 RealBadAngel VanessaE, dont ya think?
01:01 VanessaE not watching videos right now, got my own music going :-)
01:02 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaGmunWRAuM&feature=related Matryochka beats anything you throw at it
01:02 NekoGloop Matryoshka*
01:02 RealBadAngel press this one
01:02 RealBadAngel you wont be dissapointed
01:05 RealBadAngel but now, like really
01:05 VanessaE is there any way to "cultivate" jungle grass?  It ain't spawning fast enough :-)
01:05 RealBadAngel i will post you somethin one guy sung in got talent in poland
01:06 NekoGloop VanessaE: no
01:06 RealBadAngel its cover of sting song
01:06 VanessaE damn
01:06 NekoGloop i have a shitload in one of my chests
01:06 RealBadAngel http://w188.wrzuta.pl/film/7U1SoBxbfQJ/kacper_sikora_-_desert_rose
01:06 NekoGloop it is unlocked, help yourself
01:06 RealBadAngel listen to this
01:06 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: untrusted link is untrusted
01:06 RealBadAngel hes amazing
01:06 VanessaE no way, I'm doin this on my own :-)
01:07 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: talk to the hand -_-_[]
01:07 RealBadAngel listen
01:07 NekoGloop (horrible smiley is horrible)
01:07 RealBadAngel then talk
01:07 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X82FrnpBxNY&feature=relmfu
01:07 NekoGloop much better
01:08 RealBadAngel hes singin arabic parts and Stings together
01:08 NekoGloop vocaloid and trap singer (woman who sings with male voice)
01:08 RealBadAngel and hes 20
01:09 Basstard` Are we there yet?
01:09 NekoGloop Basstard: no
01:10 NekoGloop fun fact: i can make my voice copy whomever i like
01:10 NekoGloop no idea how
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01:14 OldCoder
01:14 OldCoder Landmine at large
01:14 OldCoder on my servers
01:14 OldCoder Batten down the hatches
01:14 OldCoder He is breaking the kids' Battle Server
01:14 OldCoder Skyblock is probably next
01:14 * OldCoder sighs
01:14 OldCoder I have backed up
01:14 VanessaE oh no
01:14 OldCoder I have backed up
01:15 VanessaE yeah but will backups prevent player death?
01:15 OldCoder I will ban subnet
01:15 OldCoder Probably
01:15 OldCoder I have done
01:15 OldCoder Full tree backup
01:15 OldCoder Everything
01:15 OldCoder I suppose I will ban subnets now
01:15 OldCoder Oh, well
01:15 OldCoder I had hoped to avoid this
01:15 OldCoder Maybe by hosting his creative server
01:15 OldCoder Should I go talk to him
01:15 OldCoder In that world?
01:16 OldCoder I suppose nobody wants to come with me
01:16 OldCoder I am going to
01:16 OldCoder World 30004
01:16 OldCoder If anybody wants to offer moral support
01:17 RealBadAngel im with ya
01:17 NakedFury start a whitelist
01:17 RealBadAngel kick the ass
01:17 OldCoder No point to kick ass
01:17 NekoGloop XD
01:17 OldCoder First step is ban by subnet
01:17 NekoGloop why would you kick a donkey?
01:17 OldCoder Next is whitelist
01:18 RealBadAngel why not
01:18 Basstard` Chew bubblegum instead.
01:18 RealBadAngel kick it hard
01:18 LAD ugg
01:18 RealBadAngel and what if he run out of bubble gum>
01:18 OldCoder Hang on
01:18 OldCoder Is he Craiger?
01:19 Basstard` He goes to the nearest store and busts a move.
01:19 RealBadAngel rip off greivers head left
01:19 RealBadAngel and shit down the neck
01:19 OldCoder Where are they?
01:20 OldCoder I need a way to display IPs
01:20 OldCoder Trying ifconfig
01:21 OldCoder I mean netstat
01:21 LAD oldcoder he know about all the server
01:21 OldCoder yes
01:21 LAD he dun 30003
01:21 NakedFury he just has to check the irc logs to find it
01:21 RealBadAngel ban all the subnets
01:21 LAD and hes working on this 1 so im shur he going to go for the others
01:22 LAD i would back um all up
01:22 RealBadAngel all 5.*.*.*
01:22 LAD no were leting him grie
01:22 LAD no
01:22 LAD wait yea
01:22 RealBadAngel all the shit
01:22 NakedFury joined #minetest
01:22 LAD from 30000-30004
01:22 OldCoder
01:22 OldCoder Well, I suppose we need to whitelist
01:22 OldCoder I will do a restore now
01:23 RealBadAngel thats better
01:23 OldCoder How do I disable new players temporarily
01:23 OldCoder Wait
01:23 OldCoder I know how to do that
01:23 OldCoder Secret password
01:23 OldCoder Shutting down servers to restore
01:23 OldCoder Then I will lock out new players temporarily
01:23 OldCoder That should do it
01:23 OldCoder Each new player
01:23 OldCoder Must be vetted
01:23 OldCoder Simple
01:23 LAD okl
01:23 OldCoder Hold on folks
01:23 VanessaE NOOOOOOOOOO
01:23 LAD i think u can reset the map
01:24 OldCoder VanessaE, ?
01:24 OldCoder Options?
01:24 LAD what happend VE
01:24 OldCoder Backup is only a few minutes old
01:24 VanessaE Oldcoder, when I sign back on, please teleport me back to my spawn, I'm falling down a column of water that won't let me swim back up
01:24 OldCoder O.K.
01:24 OldCoder Hold on
01:24 OldCoder Restoring first
01:24 OldCoder Then whitelist
01:24 VanessaE (bug in the water flowing code)
01:24 OldCoder it's fine
01:24 OldCoder wait
01:24 VanessaE ok, say when
01:24 LAD ok im weirdly being laggy
01:25 OldCoder Servers down for repairs
01:25 OldCoder Just a couple of minutes
01:25 LAD kk
01:26 OldCoder Restored and disabling new users
01:26 Basstard` Oh, I didn't know the Wikipedia article for Minetest has been deleted.
01:26 OldCoder Already?
01:26 OldCoder Screw that
01:26 OldCoder Does LM have any identities besides Craiger
01:26 LAD hh
01:27 LAD yea
01:27 LAD e sd Zero 1s
01:27 OldCoder Craig is toast
01:27 OldCoder He is Zero??
01:27 LAD buhes aa prson
01:27 OldCoder ?
01:27 OldCoder Anybody but Craiger?
01:27 OldCoder Are there any other LM identities?
01:27 LAD zero is a real person srry my keybord is dieing
01:27 OldCoder k
01:27 OldCoder Fine
01:28 OldCoder VanessaE, wait
01:28 LAD hmm
01:28 OldCoder VanessaE, Will position 0,0,0 be all right?
01:28 LAD ok i think i fixed my keybord
01:28 OldCoder VanessaE, you will awaken at 0 0 0
01:28 LAD for some resopn it locks up wen theres numbr lock on
01:28 VanessaE as long as I don't die :-)
01:28 NekoGloop OldCoder: you put her over nothing
01:28 NekoGloop VanessaE: you will
01:28 OldCoder Where should she go?
01:29 OldCoder NekoGloop, I will put her on you
01:29 NekoGloop when you open the server, i will tell you
01:29 NekoGloop or that
01:29 OldCoder She is at you
01:29 NekoGloop i dont memorize skyblock coordinates
01:29 OldCoder Don't need to
01:29 LAD ikd Zero might be LM
01:29 OldCoder She is at you
01:29 OldCoder LAD Then Zero goes
01:29 LAD this is his fourms account
01:29 OldCoder om
01:29 LAD I am the God of Destruction..e_e..But I Like building too.. >:D
01:29 VanessaE is it safe to sign on?
01:29 OldCoder Fixing all this
01:29 OldCoder Not yet
01:29 OldCoder I am repairing
01:29 VanessaE ok
01:30 OldCoder And locking out
01:30 OldCoder Miners of Lands
01:30 OldCoder VanessaE, and teleporting you
01:30 OldCoder manually
01:30 VanessaE ok
01:30 OldCoder O.K.
01:30 NekoGloop when she comes back on she should be at her spawn anyway
01:30 OldCoder One more change
01:30 OldCoder If she is dead
01:30 OldCoder Hold on
01:30 NekoGloop skyblock likes to place players on their spawns
01:30 VanessaE my client crashed with Some Exception anyway
01:30 NekoGloop when they relog
01:30 VanessaE so maybe I'm lucky :-)
01:31 OldCoder Wait
01:31 VanessaE I mean when I said I was stuck - my client crashed while I was swimming,
01:31 VanessaE so I was alive when it exited
01:31 OldCoder We can fix anything
01:31 OldCoder om please
01:31 OldCoder Locking out LM subnett
01:31 OldCoder *t
01:31 OldCoder What set him off?
01:32 LAD hmm
01:32 LAD but wont he just make new names
01:32 NekoGloop are we even sure he is human?
01:32 NekoGloop he could be a complex bot
01:32 VanessaE LAD: ban by IP, so nick doesn't matter
01:32 OldCoder VanessaE, Do not engage
01:32 OldCoder No
01:32 OldCoder Let me handle this
01:32 LAD he has the VPM thing
01:32 OldCoder At OS level
01:32 * VanessaE does not engage.
01:32 OldCoder Almost ready to restart
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01:33 LAD he was woundering y i was not banning him
01:33 OldCoder Do not ban
01:33 LAD i did not im not on
01:33 OldCoder Restarting
01:33 OldCoder k
01:34 OldCoder Wait
01:34 LAD what??
01:34 * VanessaE 's finger hovers over "Enter" to start the game, waiting....
01:34 OldCoder Almost forgot
01:34 OldCoder Sprinkle of magic
01:34 OldCoder Death Dust
01:34 LAD lol
01:35 * VanessaE checks her Encantus..
01:35 VanessaE hm, those spells aren't here.
01:35 OldCoder om
01:35 OldCoder om
01:35 VanessaE you've had 20 moments already ;)
01:35 OldCoder Yeh yeH
01:36 OldCoder You want --lm?
01:36 VanessaE no way.
01:36 VanessaE do. not. want.
01:36 OldCoder Found it
01:38 OldCoder On
01:38 OldCoder See if you can enter
01:38 VanessaE nope.  dead.
01:38 NekoGloop same here
01:38 OldCoder Cannot enter?
01:38 VanessaE doesn't even connect.
01:38 OldCoder Wait
01:38 OldCoder Wait
01:39 NekoGloop he's blocking your ports. seems he somehow closed them.
01:39 OldCoder No
01:39 OldCoder Me
01:39 OldCoder I will fix
01:39 NekoGloop oh
01:39 NekoGloop ok
01:39 NekoGloop I have to get out of this chair, so no more minetest for me
01:39 VanessaE aw :(
01:40 VanessaE he needs a laptop or someone needs to port minetest to ipad :-)
01:40 OldCoder om
01:40 LAD oh heeee
01:40 LAD hey
01:41 OldCoder Wait
01:41 LAD are chat wen keegnwent ad is n your sight
01:41 LAD mad
01:41 * VanessaE waits impatiently :-)
01:41 OldCoder Yes
01:41 OldCoder ??
01:41 OldCoder LAD wait please
01:41 LAD ok
01:41 LAD i gtg to bed
01:41 OldCoder k
01:41 VanessaE night LAD.
01:41 OldCoder night
01:42 OldCoder VanessaE, try now
01:42 VanessaE connecting now.
01:42 LAD nightnight ppl that i sometimes and often speake with on the freenoide IRC chat
01:42 OldCoder LAD, k
01:42 LAD XD that was very spasific ok cya allz
01:43 OldCoder VanessaE, are you in?
01:43 VanessaE yes but I can't right-click on my spawn
01:43 OldCoder Hmm
01:43 OldCoder om
01:43 NekoGloop joined #minetest
01:43 VanessaE wb Neko
01:43 OldCoder NekoGloop, can you connect?
01:44 NekoGloop Ipad
01:44 OldCoder VanessaE, let me teleport you
01:44 VanessaE there
01:44 VanessaE it works now
01:44 OldCoder O.K.
01:44 VanessaE it's fine OC
01:44 OldCoder
01:44 OldCoder Anybody new
01:44 OldCoder needs to speak with me
01:44 OldCoder or one of you
01:44 OldCoder Who wants the magic password?
01:44 VanessaE whitelisting eh?
01:44 OldCoder VanessaE ?
01:44 OldCoder yes
01:44 VanessaE no
01:44 OldCoder NekoGloop ?
01:45 NekoGloop Nope
01:45 OldCoder k
01:45 OldCoder Anybody else
01:45 OldCoder Needs to authenticate with me
01:45 OldCoder Or anybody else
01:45 OldCoder who wants the job
01:45 OldCoder I have also blocked
01:45 OldCoder the two main subnets
01:45 OldCoder Proceed at your leisure
01:45 OldCoder Report any damage
01:53 OldCoder So nobody wants the whitelist job?
01:58 Basstard` Do you have to be white?
02:01 OldCoder ??
02:01 OldCoder No
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02:09 khonkhortisan skyblock whitelist?
02:10 OldCoder khonkhortisan, Yes
02:10 OldCoder khonkhortisan, Do you need in?
02:10 OldCoder PM
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02:36 OldCoder VanessaE, so the one world is working out
02:36 VanessaE yeah
02:36 VanessaE seems to be fine
02:36 OldCoder I see you in the logs
02:36 * VanessaE is re-laying her desert area
02:36 VanessaE figured I'd remodel my area :-)
02:36 OldCoder What actually happens now; we get about 3 new players?
02:36 OldCoder Go ahead
02:36 OldCoder I will back up again
02:36 OldCoder Whitelist will slow things down
02:37 OldCoder You and NekoGloop both said no
02:37 OldCoder What am I letting myself in for?
02:37 NekoGloop Meow...?
02:37 NekoGloop Random HL is random. Back to youtube
02:37 OldCoder ?
02:37 OldCoder Meow back
02:40 OldCoder
02:40 OldCoder I might as well announce this formally every few days
02:40 OldCoder There are six new MT servers with more coming. Access is whitelisted. See me.
02:40 OldCoder
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03:13 hmmmm base_rock_level_2d - (5 + 5 + 5 + 5)      get_mud_amount - (3)       get_have_beach - (3)         3 * get_biome - (3)        2 * tree_amount_2d(4)     for apple tree noise - noise2d_perlin(3)     find_ground_level_from_noise(5 + 5 + 5 + 5)
03:13 hmmmm let's see here
03:13 hmmmm that's 20 + 3 + 3 + 9 + 8 + 3 + 20 rounds of perlin
03:14 VanessaE eesh
03:14 hmmmm err
03:14 VanessaE every one of those calls a new perlin noise calculation??
03:14 hmmmm yes
03:14 VanessaE um
03:14 hmmmm actually it's way more than that
03:14 hmmmm i forgot
03:14 hmmmm 256 * 20
03:15 hmmmm that's per block
03:15 VanessaE shouldn't it, given what appears on the default mapgen, only need 3 or 4 layers of noise at most?
03:15 hmmmm a lot of the computation is being spent on stuff like making the mud amount or beach amount so complex
03:15 hmmmm but the worst offender is obviously base_rock_level_2d
03:16 hmmmm each of the 4 perlin noise calls have 5 octaves
03:16 hmmmm and that's per (x,z)
03:17 hmmmm with my version, it's going to vary based on lots of stuff, e.g. user input, current biome, what not
03:17 hmmmm it'll most likely be way better overall but
03:17 hmmmm one only needs to examine the surface of mapgen.cpp to see how inefficiently things are done
03:18 VanessaE c55 would probably agree, he knows it's slow
03:18 hmmmm he doesn't seem to care though
03:18 VanessaE but I guess wasn't certain what to do about it.
03:18 hmmmm i know that whatever i do, a lot of time is going to be spent on perlin noise generation
03:19 hmmmm i think i'm going to spend a lot more time on that
03:19 hmmmm the easeCurve optimization was so simple and it made such a huge difference but there's still a lot more that can be done, but it's higher hanging fruit
03:19 hmmmm the obvious next step is to SSE-ify this
03:19 hmmmm maybe AVX if i can get my hands on some AVX hardware (in theory it'd be twice as fast as the SSE version)
03:20 VanessaE well let's think about this a sec.
03:20 VanessaE perlin noise's whole point in here is to generate the land, right?
03:20 hmmmm it's to be random on a gradient
03:20 VanessaE yes
03:20 hmmmm anything that needs to be unpredictable yet have a pattern to it
03:21 hmmmm erm
03:21 hmmmm you know what i mean
03:21 VanessaE so shouldn't we just run a single noise function, then compare the output of that one run against the various other things e.g. where should be dirt, stone, sand, etc?
03:21 VanessaE then a second layer to generate the trees
03:21 VanessaE I mean maybe I'm oversimplifying this,
03:22 VanessaE but if I were writing a map generator, that's how I'd do it.
03:22 hmmmm you see the problem with that is all these things need to be different calls otherwise you'd have features coinciding exactly with eachother
03:22 VanessaE true
03:22 hmmmm because they'd have the same parameters
03:22 hmmmm each perlin noise call that needs to be different has a different seed
03:22 hmmmm for instance
03:22 hmmmm well not seed, seed offset
03:22 VanessaE right,
03:23 hmmmm so it's really not the same as the last perlin noise call
03:23 hmmmm so features aren't overlapped
03:23 VanessaE so use three or four layers, one for each of the things that's really obvious
03:23 hmmmm also
03:23 hmmmm each layer isn't just to determine something
03:23 VanessaE you hide enough of those things, the less obvious "always happens next to X" stuff suddenly seems like it isn't that way
03:23 hmmmm the number of octaves is how complex the pattern is
03:23 VanessaE fair
03:23 hmmmm so if you run only one octave per computation
03:23 hmmmm that's going to be a really plain looking map
03:23 hmmmm with just a couple blobs
03:24 VanessaE right
03:24 hmmmm and to be fair
03:24 VanessaE by "layers" I mean different seeds/offsets though
03:24 hmmmm perlin noise isn't too heavyweight on itself
03:24 hmmmm in itself
03:24 VanessaE however many octaves each gets wouldn't change appreciably I don't think.
03:24 hmmmm well wait
03:24 VanessaE right, but in this case it's being run hundreds of times per mapblock
03:25 hmmmm your idea might be doable
03:25 hmmmm the only problem is that we'd have to somehow come up with a continuous hash function...?
03:26 hmmmm i'd have to understand the math behind noise2d()
03:26 hmmmm that's the base call
03:26 VanessaE ok
03:27 hmmmm that was something else i was going to do before SSE/AVX optimizing, i was about to try to simplify the math behind the noise functions
03:27 VanessaE from here it gets too complex for me to understand without knowing the code overall, but maybe I gave you an idea :-)
03:27 hmmmm maybe i can eliminate some interpolation calls
03:28 NakedFury what about lua-ing all of that process?
03:28 VanessaE FUCK no
03:28 NekoGloop Are you crazy?
03:29 VanessaE Lua is too slow for a map generator (see also, Nether mod)
03:29 hmmmm maybe he just doesn't know what we're talking about
03:29 hmmmm oh yes, nether is a biome type in my mapgen, heh
03:29 VanessaE if anything, a few hooks to tell the mapgen what to put where, but the hard stuff has to be in C++
03:29 hmmmm along with aether
03:29 VanessaE there was an Aether mod too?
03:30 NekoGloop No
03:30 VanessaE didn't think so
03:30 VanessaE anyway
03:30 NekoGloop He's custom-ing mapgen
03:30 NakedFury I meant for biomes
03:30 hmmmm those are in a special group that need to be put in a special area though
03:31 hmmmm nakedfury, that really can be done
03:31 hmmmm but you wouldn't be able to do anything special aside from specify perlin noise parameters and the block types
03:31 NekoGloop Snow mod does this incredibly successfully
03:31 hmmmm snow mod?
03:31 NekoGloop Yes
03:32 NekoGloop By sapier i think
03:33 hmmmm well whatever
03:33 hmmmm here are the biome types http://pastebin.com/gfNxUtcZ
03:33 hmmmm the last three aren't types but rather flags
03:34 hmmmm as in, they're attributes that can be combined with any of the above
03:34 hmmmm so you can have snow caps with BT_EXTREMEHILLS | BTF_SNOW
03:34 NakedFury gbeach?
03:34 hmmmm gravel beach
03:34 hmmmm hh
03:34 hmmmm also i need to talk about that
03:34 NakedFury extreme mountains? valleys?
03:34 hmmmm sand beach and gravel beach are in the same biome group
03:35 hmmmm based on another perlin noise mapping it's going to decide the temperature of the area
03:35 hmmmm and if it's cold enough a beach will be gravel instead of sand
03:35 hmmmm or something
03:35 hmmmm idfk
03:35 NakedFury temperature, that is nice
03:36 hmmmm biome groups can only appear adjacent to eachother
03:36 hmmmm for example
03:36 hmmmm the ocean biome group is right next to the beach biome group
03:36 hmmmm so that means a beach can only be next to an ocean
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03:36 hmmmm so the first perlin noise function determines which group the biome is in
03:37 T_A_N_K is there a guy by the name of "Mito551" in here right now?
03:37 hmmmm then the temperature function gets the temperature
03:37 hmmmm which determines which biome in the biome group to choose
03:37 hmmmm each biome will have its own ground generating function
03:39 NakedFury would the underground area receive biomes too or would that not fall on this reworking you are doing?
03:39 NekoGloop Nether biome; therefore yes
03:39 hmmmm err
03:39 hmmmm you see
03:39 hmmmm i haven't figured that part out yet
03:39 NakedFury nether falls into a hell type
03:40 NekoGloop I'm assuming we can make the nether biome not be a nether if we like?
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03:40 hmmmm sure
03:40 hmmmm you see, that's the thing
03:40 hmmmm i think Minecraft has a separate place not on the map coordinates for nether and stuff
03:40 hmmmm am i right or no?
03:40 NakedFury yes
03:40 hmmmm which WE can't do
03:41 hmmmm unless you want to rewrite the entire engine pretty much
03:41 hmmmm so they have the advantage of being able to calculate the biome for only (x, z), while we'd have to do (x, y, z) if we wanted height to factor into biome
03:41 hmmmm of course
03:42 hmmmm unless i hard code logic in for extreme heights (e.g. <= -10000 is nether)
03:42 hmmmm well that's doable, nobody's going to mine straight into the nether, right?
03:42 NekoGloop Well, we will, but it will be insanely difiicult
03:43 NekoGloop We would need one hell of a lot of mese picks
03:43 hmmmm the same can also be done with aether
03:43 NekoGloop Yup
03:43 hmmmm except i'd have to change some liquid flow logic
03:43 hmmmm and death from falls
03:43 NekoGloop Not neccessarilly
03:44 hmmmm if liquid spills off the edge of the aether then it'd fall onto regular land
03:44 NekoGloop Make the aether generate low-ish
03:44 NekoGloop That way we have floating islands
03:44 NekoGloop Which would be AWESOME
03:44 hmmmm well
03:44 hmmmm it's supposed to be another dimension
03:44 hmmmm besides, you'd be able to modify that by changing a single number if you actually wanted to
03:45 hmmmm i guess that could be a setting
03:45 NakedFury well you have lots of spaces for both type of biomes
03:46 hmmmm the setting thing isn't robust enough
03:46 hmmmm i mean look
03:46 hmmmm this is supposed to be extensible
03:46 hmmmm so every time people add in a new "portal" biome they're going to have to add a new setting to the configuration?  nonsense
03:46 hmmmm height at which it occurs will be a knob when a biome is being defined
03:47 NekoGloop You could make it easier to add new biomes
03:47 hmmmm well i made it really easy
03:47 NakedFury ^ was gonna ask that
03:47 hmmmm i mean it can't be done in Lua
03:47 hmmmm but that doesn't make it "hard"
03:47 NakedFury ohhh
03:47 NakedFury sad face
03:47 hmmmm all you'd need to do is add in a couple lines and then recompile
03:47 hmmmm i'd keep it very well documented
03:47 NekoGloop Recompile?
03:47 hmmmm yea
03:48 NekoGloop I've never done this "compile" thing
03:48 hmmmm oh... uh oh
03:48 hmmmm what if there was a public service for this sort of thing
03:48 NekoGloop Make one.
03:48 NekoGloop :3
03:49 hmmmm you make changes to minetest, upload the project, and then it'll compile it for you and post the result
03:49 hmmmm and this would be on a website
03:49 hmmmm this way you wouldn't need to have an entire development environment
03:50 hmmmm but really you only have that problem where you need to "set everything up" on windows because it comes with no environment at all by default
03:50 NekoGloop Notepad++
03:51 NakedFury https://github.com/ExtrabiomesXL/ExtrabiomesXL/wiki/List-of-Biomes
03:51 NakedFury lots of terrain types
03:52 hmmmm WOW, that's pretty awesome, why didn't i see this before
03:52 NekoGloop My. God.
03:52 NakedFury it also has seasonal terrains like the autumn woods
03:52 NekoGloop Must. Have. MC1.3.2. Version.
03:53 hmmmm oh, that's for minecraft
03:53 hmmmm 'was gonna say
03:53 NekoGloop Noooooooooo!
03:53 NakedFury yes but I meant to show all the biomes
03:53 NekoGloop It needs mcforge
03:53 NekoGloop I cant install mcforge in demo version
03:54 NakedFury how would different tree types work?
03:54 hmmmm setColor();?
03:54 hmmmm https://github.com/ExtrabiomesXL/ExtrabiomesXL/blob/master/extrabiomes/src/extrabiomes/biomes/BiomeBirchForest.java       what is setColor()?
03:54 NekoGloop Uh...
03:54 NekoGloop No idea
03:55 hmmmm if this is a lighting color bias that does what i think it does
03:55 hmmmm hm
03:55 NekoGloop Course i know about nil about java
03:55 NakedFury possibly to change leaf colors or grass?
03:55 hmmmm this has a lot more to do with minecraft's internals than it does java
03:57 hmmmm you know, i always admired for how complex minecraft is, how neat it is
03:57 hmmmm i'd say it's professionally done
03:57 hmmmm compared to minecraft, minetest is a ghetto
03:58 VanessaE haha
03:58 VanessaE I dare you to put that on the dev wiki ;)
03:59 hmmmm apparently BiomeGenOcean calls setColor(0x70)
03:59 hmmmm what part of the ocean in minecraft has a color of 0x000070?
04:00 VanessaE dunno, never played it
04:00 NekoGloop What color is that!
04:00 hmmmm really dark blue
04:01 NekoGloop The farther down you get, the darker it is
04:01 NekoGloop So i'd say, about 70 blocks below surface?
04:01 hmmmm any results on google for '"setColor" minecraft' are either Doxygen generated documentation with nothing useful at all, or 'modding tutorials' that seem to copy paste code from that
04:01 hmmmm no, that's obviously a color code
04:02 NekoGloop No you asked what part of the ocean had that color
04:02 NekoGloop So i answered
04:02 hmmmm it's more like black at that depth lol
04:03 NekoGloop Ok maybe not exactly
04:03 NekoGloop But close to it
04:05 hmmmm apparently it's the "land color"
04:05 hmmmm it can't exactly be that
04:05 hmmmm maybe it's an alpha blend of that color
04:06 VanessaE unless,
04:06 VanessaE 0x70 means 0x00000070
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04:06 VanessaE an extra pair of 0's, making the 70 an alpha setting.
04:06 cornernote hi
04:06 NekoGloop It does
04:06 hmmmm what would a block of grass look like if it were placed in an ocean biome on the surface of the ocean
04:06 VanessaE cornernote: skyblock is epic :-)
04:06 cornernote i got spirals working in worldedit - http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=44578#p44578
04:06 hmmmm i don't have minecraft so i can't try it out
04:07 NekoGloop Get demo version
04:07 cornernote VanessaE, awesome! im glad you like it
04:07 VanessaE hmmmm: I would assume, if it didn't sink, it would just stay on top and look like a normal block of grass?
04:07 hmmmm vanessae, i say no
04:07 NekoGloop 1) doesnt sink
04:07 hmmmm i bet it'll have a blue hue to it
04:07 NekoGloop 2) i think he's right
04:07 hmmmm if my hypothesis is right
04:07 VanessaE possibly
04:07 hmmmm someone, care to test it?
04:08 hmmmm if anyone has minecraft here
04:08 hmmmm lol
04:08 NekoGloop Get the demo version you lazy ass :3
04:08 hmmmm i mean there's definite value in knowing, because we can do it too
04:08 hmmmm this requires a modern client though.
04:08 hmmmm like 1.8 or newer
04:08 NekoGloop Demo version is 1.3.2
04:08 hmmmm yea, too old
04:08 NekoGloop No
04:09 NekoGloop 1.8 means ALPHA1.8
04:09 hmmmm ocean became a biome in 1.8
04:09 hmmmm even then, i can't play it
04:09 NekoGloop 1.3.2 is RELEASE1.3.2
04:09 hmmmm doesn't run for me because LWJGL is broken on my platform
04:09 NekoGloop Get a fucking os then
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04:10 hmmmm but anyway
04:10 NakedFury could it be possible to also have different world generation options? example: islands, archipelago, supercontinents, continents, etc
04:10 NekoGloop Prolly
04:10 hmmmm oh nakedfury, that was the original goal of my modification
04:10 hmmmm presets for those sorts of things
04:10 T_A_N_K is there even a sound table for placing nodes?
04:10 NakedFury if you have played Civilizations games you would understand
04:10 NakedFury ohh ok
04:11 hmmmm you'll love it, i guarantee
04:11 hmmmm it's going to have all the stuff you'd want
04:11 T_A_N_K i see there is table.dig = table.dig, what about table.place = table.place?
04:12 hmmmm so anyway
04:12 hmmmm if we could just change the lighting for each biome then it'd give a way better atmosphere
04:12 hmmmm and we'd be able to get rid of desert sand and desert stone
04:13 hmmmm they could be regular sand and stone, with the lighting added
04:13 NakedFury and color
04:13 VanessaE nnnoooooo
04:13 hmmmm yeah, colored lighting
04:13 VanessaE keep desert sand/stone
04:13 VanessaE they're usefukl
04:13 VanessaE -k
04:13 hmmmm mm
04:13 hmmmm erm
04:13 hmmmm okay
04:13 hmmmm i meant that as an example
04:14 VanessaE heh, guess I jumped in wrong again ;)
04:15 * VanessaE goes back to playing the game.
05:04 OldCoder cornernote, hello
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05:24 OldCoder Calinou, Hi
05:24 Calinou hi
05:27 OldCoder Calinou, PM
05:28 Calinou seen it
05:28 Calinou you only said "hi"
05:28 OldCoder Yes
05:28 OldCoder That was to open PM
05:28 OldCoder Unless you wish me to explain here
05:28 Calinou /query 8)
05:28 OldCoder Which sort of defeats the purpose of PM
05:28 OldCoder That does not work for me
05:28 Calinou ah
05:30 OldCoder I gather you will not respond
05:30 OldCoder As you wish
05:30 Calinou no?
05:31 Calinou just ask in PM, it is fine.
05:31 OldCoder For me to see the window
05:31 OldCoder Respond to my PM if you wish
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07:52 OldCoder Stopping servers for maintanence
07:52 VanessaE noooooooooo
07:52 OldCoder Sorry
07:52 OldCoder LM issue
07:52 OldCoder Back very shortly
07:52 OldCoder I thought you would be asleep
07:52 VanessaE ok go ahead
07:52 OldCoder it is very late
07:52 OldCoder Not long
07:52 VanessaE (sure hope I didn't lose a lot of progress there.
07:52 OldCoder Probably not
07:53 OldCoder It is a SIGTERM
07:53 OldCoder Does MT handle SIGTERM well?
07:53 VanessaE usually.
07:53 OldCoder A minute or two then
07:56 VanessaE when it's back I'll check and see where I stand, and then I need to head to bed.
07:56 OldCoder k
07:56 OldCoder Very shortly
07:56 OldCoder thx
07:56 OldCoder Everybody looks registered
07:56 OldCoder Let me add one line to .conf
07:57 OldCoder Dropping interact from default_privs
07:57 mika_r oldcoder, what type of servers are you running?
07:57 OldCoder I will show you
07:57 OldCoder Six of them
07:58 OldCoder In a minute
07:58 OldCoder Finishing
07:59 OldCoder One moment
07:59 OldCoder Backing up
07:59 OldCoder As our friend may return
07:59 OldCoder VanessaE, Try it
07:59 OldCoder mika_r, Link coming up
07:59 OldCoder
07:59 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
07:59 OldCoder mika_r, A link for you ^
07:59 OldCoder
08:00 VanessaE ok, trying
08:01 VanessaE Looks clean, OC.
08:01 VanessaE nothing lost from the restart.
08:02 OldCoder Good
08:02 VanessaE and I can build.
08:02 OldCoder Default privileges are now just fast and shout for Skyblock
08:02 OldCoder Good night
08:02 VanessaE wait,
08:02 OldCoder I have done what is possible
08:02 VanessaE strike that
08:02 OldCoder Yes?
08:02 VanessaE I did lose a little progress
08:02 VanessaE but no materials were lost
08:02 OldCoder but not much I hope
08:02 OldCoder I will see if you are AFK next time
08:02 VanessaE naw, just a couple dozen wood ended up back in my inventory
08:02 OldCoder k
08:02 OldCoder Good night
08:02 VanessaE looks good.
08:02 VanessaE good night
08:03 OldCoder Updating my page now
08:03 mika_r thanks oldcoder
08:03 VanessaE (/me finishes what she started real quick)
08:03 OldCoder mika_r, Sure
08:03 OldCoder
08:03 OldCoder mika_r, these are whitelisted
08:03 OldCoder PM me for access
08:06 mika_r oldcoder, not sure if i'll yet join
08:06 OldCoder No rush
08:06 OldCoder I am new to this
08:06 OldCoder People asked for servers
08:07 OldCoder So I provided some
08:07 mika_r name says other, how new are they?
08:07 OldCoder Regrettably griefing was not far behind
08:07 OldCoder Name? I am very old
08:07 mika_r ok
08:07 OldCoder The worlds are three days old but some of the maps go back a year or two
08:07 OldCoder Skyblock is coming along very nicely
08:07 OldCoder It is supposed to be a puzzle world but they are building
08:08 OldCoder So I will run a second copy for puzzles only
08:08 mika_r were there any buildings older than 3 days?
08:08 OldCoder Yes
08:08 OldCoder One year
08:08 OldCoder Old maps
08:08 OldCoder New clones
08:08 VanessaE OldCoder: you can't really do skyblock without building normally
08:08 OldCoder VanessaE, I mean...
08:08 OldCoder VanessaE, I will run copies so that newcomers can try starting fresh
08:08 OldCoder The more the merrier
08:08 VanessaE the game makes you, for example, build structures out of 100 wood here, 200 cobble there, 200 stone into a tower, etc.
08:08 OldCoder Like the maze world
08:09 OldCoder Yes
08:09 VanessaE oh ok
08:09 OldCoder Exactly
08:09 OldCoder Your world will last
08:09 OldCoder Forever if I can arrange it
08:09 OldCoder Even after MT upgrades
08:09 OldCoder I will maintain copies
08:09 OldCoder <--- Does not believe artwork should be lost
08:09 OldCoder
08:12 VanessaE good :)
08:13 VanessaE ok, time for me to bug out
08:13 VanessaE bed calls
08:13 OldCoder Night
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08:27 OldCoder mika_r, To give you the idea: I will now clone this world if possible:
08:27 OldCoder http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3066
08:27 OldCoder
08:28 mika_r you mean you copy an existing world to your server?
08:28 OldCoder Yes
08:28 mika_r why?
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08:29 OldCoder mika_r, To give it a home if it does not have one. I have been asked to do this a number of times.
08:29 mika_r you mean cpr to an unused map?
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08:29 OldCoder What is the word cpr?
08:29 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Hello
08:29 RealBadAngel hi
08:29 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I have reset the griefed worlds
08:30 OldCoder RealBadAngel, The worlds are whitelisted now
08:30 OldCoder Indicate the ones you need access to
08:30 mika_r Cardiopulmonary resuscitation
08:30 OldCoder mika_r, Yes
08:30 RealBadAngel technic and skyblock
08:30 mika_r wake them back from dead
08:30 OldCoder RealBadAngel, technic is not a world; is that your music box?
08:30 OldCoder mika_r, Yes
08:30 RealBadAngel 0
08:30 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I will add it
08:30 OldCoder Falling asleep soon now
08:31 OldCoder RealBadAngel, You should have access to every world you had access to before
08:31 RealBadAngel i just woke up lol
08:31 OldCoder Indicate if any don't work
08:31 RealBadAngel ok, thx
08:31 mika_r oldcoder ill check the 30 000
08:31 OldCoder mika_r, O.K. PM
08:31 mika_r no but i'm confused
08:32 OldCoder mika_r, Join me in PM
08:32 OldCoder mika_r, I will be here for a few minutes
08:59 OldCoder
08:59 OldCoder I am now running seven worlds
08:59 OldCoder Details will be posted on my site
08:59 OldCoder
09:11 cornernote are there any texture makers here that would like to contribute a few textures ?
09:18 VanessaE well so much for that idea.
09:18 VanessaE can't sleep yet.
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09:26 OldCoder VanessaE, not asleep?
09:26 VanessaE nope.
09:26 VanessaE can't.
09:27 OldCoder VanessaE, stopping for 60 seconds to back up latest fileset
09:32 OldCoder VanessaE, took longer but done now
09:32 VanessaE i'll get back on later, in the mood to read now. :-)
09:32 OldCoder Good
09:33 OldCoder VanessaE, before I go can you comment on these mods: carts, dicormod, panes, snow, throwing, workers
09:33 OldCoder Stable, high depends, conflicts, etc.?
09:33 VanessaE mm
09:34 VanessaE I don't know much about dicor, carts is kinda buggy as I recall, panes is okay (use xpanes), snow seems to be fairly highly rated, throwing and workers I'm not sure of
09:45 OldCoder k
09:45 OldCoder One question
09:45 OldCoder panes is okay (use xpanes)
09:45 OldCoder Explain. Can I simply drop in xpanes and remove panes?
09:45 VanessaE um
09:45 VanessaE not sure if one can "replace" the other like that
09:46 OldCoder So when you say use xpanes what do you mean?
09:46 VanessaE but the two are equivalent in function, xpanes is generally the preferred one now as it uses nodeboxes.
09:46 OldCoder If a world designer used panes
09:46 OldCoder Then I cannot substitute xpanes
09:46 VanessaE panes is Jordach's old mod, xpanes I think is by thexyz
09:46 OldCoder Correct?
09:46 VanessaE that is probably correct, but I have never tested it
09:46 OldCoder k
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09:53 thexyz xpanes is better
09:53 OldCoder yes
09:53 VanessaE you would say that :D
09:54 VanessaE (plus it's supported by HDX ;) )
09:54 thexyz VanessaE: it's just better no matter who made it
09:54 VanessaE yup
09:54 VanessaE considering how panes is implemented, xpanes is definitely better.
09:54 OldCoder dicormod is just a textures folder
09:55 OldCoder Where would I put it?
09:55 VanessaE you sure about that?
09:55 OldCoder http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=508
09:55 OldCoder Comment
09:55 * VanessaE checkjs..
09:55 VanessaE hm, the page for that mod implies that it contains code also
09:56 OldCoder See 4 yourself
09:56 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=508
09:56 OldCoder Yes
09:56 OldCoder I linked same page above
09:56 OldCoder Zzzz
09:56 VanessaE however,
09:56 OldCoder oh so tired
09:56 VanessaE those "dye" textures look like the ones from minecraft.  confusing.
09:57 VanessaE ok
09:57 VanessaE I just extracted
09:57 VanessaE there is an init.lua.
09:57 VanessaE http://minetest.at.ua/dicormod.rar
09:59 VanessaE however it doesn't create a proper containing folder on extract
10:00 VanessaE oh G*d
10:00 VanessaE it uses the oOOOOOOOLLLLLLLDDDDD wool mod
10:01 VanessaE nix.
10:01 VanessaE toss it.
10:01 VanessaE (it relies on rats for the "hair", which don't exist)
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10:09 mika_r oldcoder, carts are buggy
10:10 VanessaE I think he went to sleep
10:10 mika_r ok, isn't it morning soon there?
10:10 VanessaE it's 6:10am here
10:11 mika_r ok
10:11 mika_r have you been up all night now?
10:11 VanessaE yes.
10:11 VanessaE :-/
10:12 mika_r i slept a few hours but been up for 7h today already, how time flies, thought i just had my morning coffee
10:16 tripod yeah
10:16 tripod i have one coffee and im buzzed for like 12 hours, not knowing were time decided to go
10:16 tripod where*
10:21 mika_r vanessaE, what would be proper wall material to go with the red roof from home decor?
10:21 VanessaE mmm...
10:22 VanessaE probably sandstone
10:22 mika_r so i thought, just wondering what else is there, made a asphalt roof on my cactus tile
10:22 VanessaE the alternate recipes working okay for you?
10:23 VanessaE I wasn't 100% sure if they were well-balanced enough
10:24 mika_r got lots of dirt, but the coal is a little expensive to throw out as dye. found some recipe today that coal would be possible to make out of tree but didnt work
10:24 VanessaE that hasn't worked for ages
10:25 VanessaE c55 took that out months ago
10:25 VanessaE as for coal, after a while you'll find it's quite easy to end up with a surplus of it
10:25 cornernote go looking for mese, you'll come back with a lot of coal
10:25 mika_r bought from ade a stack
10:26 VanessaE yup
10:26 mika_r i've scattered my torches in the mine and glow glass
10:26 VanessaE and a lot of steel
10:27 mika_r coal and steel are pretty easy to find but i look for moreores, normally just end up with cobble and gravel
10:35 VanessaE and down goes Skyblock again :-)
10:35 mika_r down?
10:35 VanessaE (accidentally buried a cobble under falling snad)
10:35 VanessaE (sand)
10:46 mika_r houston we have a problem
10:47 VanessaE ?
10:47 mika_r i may have the solution in my hand, 2min
10:48 VanessaE what's wrong?
10:48 mika_r terracotta
10:49 VanessaE bake dirt in an oven.
10:49 mika_r that i know, i'm uploading a pic
10:49 mika_r http://aijaa.com/84geAy
10:50 VanessaE looks right to me
10:50 mika_r yes, but wool is too bright underneath and desert stone too dark, lucky i found desert sand
10:50 VanessaE mmmm....
10:51 VanessaE try orange wool
10:51 mika_r oh, forgot that
10:52 mika_r desert sand is better
10:53 mika_r textures on wool and bricks are too bright
10:54 mika_r the cactus tile house looks goods at night with a few torches lighting, but the sun makes it too bright
10:59 VanessaE cool
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11:20 mika_r now the roof is ready, works great with sandstone
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11:34 VanessaE ok, I completed all the way through the end of level 2...  what's next?
11:34 VanessaE (skyblock)
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11:48 * VanessaE looks at the level 3 marker..
11:48 VanessaE oh my.
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12:10 NekoGloop Meow.
12:10 VanessaE Meow.
12:12 NekoGloop What's up?
12:12 VanessaE not much, just working on level 3 in skyblock now
12:14 NekoGloop My envy > 9000
12:14 NekoGloop D:
12:14 NekoGloop I not in level 3 :(
12:14 VanessaE I seem to be stuck
12:14 NekoGloop Hm?
12:14 VanessaE "place 30 fences around your gardens"
12:15 NekoGloop Ah...
12:15 VanessaE I've just done 50+ and no achievement.
12:15 NekoGloop And xfences collides
12:15 VanessaE I figured that was the case.
12:15 VanessaE dammit.
12:15 NekoGloop At least we can get to level 3
12:16 VanessaE Nu?  So sign on and look at what I've built so far :-)
12:17 VanessaE cornernote: you awake?
12:17 NekoGloop Maybe later
12:18 VanessaE :(
12:18 NekoGloop :P
12:19 VanessaE how many levels are there anyway
12:19 NekoGloop 3
12:19 VanessaE oh ok
12:19 VanessaE because the end of level 3 says something about smelting 500 (!) stone (!!)
12:20 VanessaE for "your next project..."
12:21 NekoGloop It's just to give you a reason to get more stone
12:21 VanessaE heh
12:45 NekoGloop Freakin bugs everywhere ;_;
12:51 VanessaE Well that's it.
12:52 VanessaE Level 3 completed except for the fences and the 500 stone.
12:53 NekoGloop Heh
12:53 VanessaE does it have to be stone or does he mean cobble?
12:53 NekoGloop Hm?
12:53 VanessaE the 500.
12:53 NekoGloop Should be dig 500 stone
12:53 VanessaE eek.
12:54 NekoGloop Stone generator :P
12:54 VanessaE well of course
12:54 VanessaE but stone digs to cobble, so it has to be smelted back to stone
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12:56 NekoGloop No
12:56 NekoGloop It is dig 500 stone, correct?
12:56 NekoGloop Not smelt?
12:56 VanessaE it says "dig 500.."....
12:56 VanessaE oh.
12:56 * VanessaE <--- STUPID!
12:56 NekoGloop Hehe
12:57 NekoGloop BAKA*
12:57 NekoGloop :3
13:01 VanessaE there. 500 stone done.
13:01 VanessaE all that's left is the fences.
13:02 NekoGloop Get oldcoder to /give VanessaE default:fencs
13:02 NekoGloop Actually, i have worldedit priv
13:02 VanessaE no need, I'll just get cornernote to fix the bug, I'm sure OC will pull down the fix.
13:02 NekoGloop Lol
13:06 VanessaE when Neko returns, someone tell him I had to head off to an appointment, and not to do anything to my areas in Skyblock because I wanna play it "right".
13:06 VanessaE bbl
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13:52 Mikeonline hi
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13:58 Mikeonline is there a public mod repo on github or does every mod need its own repo?
13:59 FreeFull Most mods have their own repos afaik
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14:12 NekoGloop Meow.
14:13 FreeFull Hi NekoGloop
14:13 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUQ1TH0MDUk&amp;feature=related
14:20 Mikeonline why github not sourceforge?
14:21 NekoGloop because github is cake
14:22 Mikeonline github requires realname.. very lame :D
14:22 NekoGloop I put Gloop Master as my realname XD
14:23 Mikeonline violator :D
14:23 NekoGloop :D
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14:29 NekoGloop hello pilzadam
14:29 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
14:29 NekoGloop :3
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14:40 NekoGloop leaves are such good fuel that they make the furnace not realise it has fuel
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14:42 RealBadAngel hi folks
14:42 RealBadAngel whats up?
14:42 NekoGloop skyblock
14:42 NekoGloop it's WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY up :3
14:43 RealBadAngel hehe
14:43 RealBadAngel loggin in
14:44 PilzAdam hi RealBadAngel
14:44 RealBadAngel hi pilz
14:45 PilzAdam adam and not pilz
14:46 RealBadAngel shortcut sorry
14:46 RealBadAngel i shall press tab to autocomplete and i missed it
14:46 RealBadAngel right hand with enter was faster
14:51 OldCoder <NekoGloop> it's WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY up :3
14:51 * OldCoder assumes this is good
14:51 NekoGloop lol
14:51 NekoGloop i meant "sky"block
14:52 RealBadAngel network code is totally fucked up
14:52 RealBadAngel i feel like i were tryin to play from mars at least
14:52 RealBadAngel 30s lags
14:53 RealBadAngel before i could play on US servers
14:53 RealBadAngel now its impossible just
14:53 RealBadAngel after those rollback feature i think
14:54 RealBadAngel i CAN see nodes i put dissapear
14:54 RealBadAngel and appear again in order i put them
14:54 RealBadAngel 15-20s after i did that
14:54 RealBadAngel lua entities are impossible to control
14:55 RealBadAngel all the network code is worth a shit
14:56 RealBadAngel and im not tellin that because somethin i shall do to repair
14:56 RealBadAngel those who fucked it up shall repair it
14:57 NekoGloop you seem to think it easy to make network code for a game like minetest
14:57 RealBadAngel no
14:57 RealBadAngel i havent said that
14:57 NekoGloop was not "fucked up" by anyone
14:57 RealBadAngel i said it was playable already
14:58 NekoGloop was never good to start with
14:58 RealBadAngel some1 made it "better"
14:58 RealBadAngel and made it unplayable
14:58 RealBadAngel so? fucked it up
14:58 RealBadAngel 2+2=4
14:58 RealBadAngel theres no fuzzy logic
14:59 RealBadAngel and im not a kid to watch my words.
14:59 RealBadAngel period
15:01 RealBadAngel well, im not any good with networkin code
15:02 RealBadAngel never did that
15:03 RealBadAngel i would just love to use it, we all spendin a lot of time to make this game better
15:03 RealBadAngel and keep fallin down because of basics
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15:03 RealBadAngel wb PilzAdam, this time tab pressed ;)
15:04 PilzAdam yay tab!
15:08 RealBadAngel i guess rollin back feature is just wrong
15:08 RealBadAngel takes too much time and resources
15:09 RealBadAngel i said once how it should be done to avoid ANY problems
15:09 RealBadAngel client shall send kinda passport each time he wants to do somethin
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15:10 RealBadAngel priviledges
15:10 RealBadAngel servers then shall check the passport on each action just
15:10 Jordach wielditemmodeleditor no work on windows xp
15:10 NekoGloop course not
15:10 NekoGloop now get on skyblock :D
15:11 Jordach NekoGloop, i can smash add box all day and nothing happends
15:11 RealBadAngel this way all the hacked clients will stop workin
15:11 PilzAdam hi Jordach
15:11 RealBadAngel no matter client will try to do, if passport is wrong: get the fuck out of here. ban. period.
15:12 RealBadAngel just one byte extra per each action could do that
15:12 Jordach PilzAdam, i wanna make some nodeboxes and the PoS WIM won't even work (i use the included .dlls)
15:13 PilzAdam use linux
15:13 PilzAdam ;-)
15:13 Jordach i DO
15:13 Jordach just that homework needs windows
15:16 Mikeonline first preview alpha released: https://github.com/codeandfix/node_ownership
15:17 Jordach Mikeonline, just saw the forums post :D
15:19 * Mikeonline slaps Jordach
15:20 * Jordach slaps Mikeonline with a fat walrus
15:21 * NekoGloop slaps #minetest with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngj9bXui9EQ&amp;feature=related
15:22 * Jordach does not click link
15:22 * Jordach kickbans NekoGloop
15:22 Jordach <SARCASM>
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15:22 NekoGloop XD
15:23 PilzAdam yay fight fight FIGHT!!!
15:23 PilzAdam :-D
15:23 * PilzAdam is the little devil from Jordach
15:23 Mikeonline does anyone except redcrab use node_ownership?
15:23 PilzAdam <offtopic> most epic song ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASj81daun5Q </offtopic>
15:23 PilzAdam hi Calinou
15:23 PilzAdam you ;-)
15:23 Mikeonline hi pilz
15:23 Calinou hi
15:23 Calinou inb4 my server is down
15:23 Calinou PilzAdam: did you fix the farming wet farmland texture issue?
15:23 Calinou the bottom should use dirt texture, not wet farmland side
15:23 PilzAdam why?
15:24 Jordach Calinou; youre a modder, DO. IT. YOURSELF.
15:24 Calinou I know
15:24 PilzAdam i. dont. want. it.
15:24 Jordach +1
15:24 Calinou PilzAdam: texture packs; not every single texture pack darkens the whole texture
15:24 Calinou it's just irrealistic :P
15:24 NekoGloop all faces of wet farmland should be wet
15:24 PilzAdam +1
15:25 Jordach like a woman
15:25 Jordach :S
15:25 Calinou lol
15:25 NekoGloop XD
15:25 Calinou locked_furnace made my server crash
15:25 Calinou crontab doesn't even work
15:25 Calinou <_<
15:26 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=44610#p44610
15:26 Calinou SERIOUSLY.
15:27 OldCoder Jordach, Hi. I reset your world because a Miner of Lands griefed it. Everything is whitelisted now.
15:27 Jordach aye
15:27 Jordach Miner of Lands = LandMine
15:28 OldCoder If you speak the name it may be grepped. Moving on...
15:28 Jordach and no
15:28 OldCoder ?
15:28 OldCoder Go on
15:28 Jordach you cant hack privs
15:28 OldCoder The worlds are whitelisted and interact is removed
15:28 Jordach its theoretically impossible
15:28 OldCoder I am not following. I am tired. Let us move on.
15:28 NekoGloop you can make the client act as singleplayer
15:29 OldCoder There is little to discuss. May I ask people to comment on dicormod?
15:29 Jordach NekoGloop - actually, it runs a server instance on 30011
15:29 OldCoder It appears to be just a set of PNG files plus a subdirectory with more PNGs.
15:29 NekoGloop i know
15:29 OldCoder Who has 30011?
15:29 OldCoder Oh
15:29 Jordach if the world is made and a admin is chosen, then singleplayer mod cant do shit
15:29 OldCoder VanessaE was puzzled. What is dicormod and how is it installed?
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15:32 OldCoder
15:33 OldCoder Nobody knows dicormod?
15:34 RealBadAngel dicormod?
15:34 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I am adding another world...
15:34 RealBadAngel maybe homedecor?
15:34 OldCoder One moment
15:34 OldCoder You misunderstand
15:34 OldCoder One moment
15:34 OldCoder <VanessaE> no need, I'll just get cornernote to fix the bug, I'm sure OC will pull down the fix.
15:34 OldCoder Indicate when to do so
15:35 OldCoder http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=508
15:35 OldCoder RealBadAngel, ^
15:35 OldCoder How is that installed?
15:35 OldCoder There is no code
15:35 OldCoder VanessaE thought there would be code
15:35 RealBadAngel as amy other mod
15:35 RealBadAngel *any
15:36 RealBadAngel its just init.lua and textures folder
15:36 RealBadAngel so as any other mod simply
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15:41 OldCoder RealBadAngel, what link did you use?
15:41 OldCoder RealBadAngel, The one I have is just PNG files
15:41 RealBadAngel a sec
15:41 RealBadAngel http://minetest.at.ua/dicormod.rar
15:42 OldCoder om
15:42 OldCoder I have that one
15:42 RealBadAngel rar is the problem?
15:42 OldCoder Probably
15:42 OldCoder om
15:42 RealBadAngel repack it for ya?
15:42 OldCoder No
15:42 OldCoder I unpacked it on my distro
15:43 OldCoder That worked when Ubuntu didn't
15:43 OldCoder ty
15:43 Calinou .rar
15:43 Calinou *laughs*
15:43 OldCoder yes
15:43 OldCoder Rarrrr
15:43 RealBadAngel lol
15:44 Calinou if you want good compression, use .bz2...
15:44 Calinou <_<
15:44 Calinou or .xz
15:44 OldCoder Or .txz
15:44 RealBadAngel what do you want guys, its cool format
15:44 OldCoder >_>
15:44 Calinou .txz == .xz :p
15:44 Calinou RealBadAngel: proprietary
15:44 * OldCoder shrugsz
15:44 Calinou you need proprietary stuff to unpack/pack it
15:44 RealBadAngel so what
15:44 Calinou better use free formats when they're available and do the same fucking things
15:44 Calinou anyway, I prefer lossless to lossy, thus I use zip for everything.
15:44 NekoGloop or .zip
15:44 Calinou plus, winblows natively supports it, winblows users don't whine
15:45 NekoGloop anyone who runs windows should get winrar for god's sake
15:45 RealBadAngel windows lusers whine at almost everuthin
15:45 Calinou NekoGloop: winrar is terrible, use 7-zip
15:45 Calinou supports about 10 formats in unpacking, 5 in packing
15:45 OldCoder Portable version
15:45 Calinou and is opensource
15:45 NekoGloop 7-zip's interface looks like shit
15:45 Calinou and 32 AND 64 bit
15:45 RealBadAngel im not using any of them
15:45 Calinou it's decent, 7-zip is lightweight too
15:45 Calinou very quick to open
15:46 RealBadAngel i use plugings for total commander
15:46 NekoGloop as is winrar
15:46 OldCoder Is snow a good mod for the default set?
15:46 NekoGloop yes oldcoder
15:46 OldCoder k
15:46 RealBadAngel so any shitty format is just a directory for me
15:47 Calinou OldCoder: if not slow as hell (== made in C++..)
15:47 OldCoder Calinou, snow is slow?
15:47 OldCoder Never mind then
15:47 OldCoder Wait
15:47 Calinou if you mod C++ mapgen on a server, clients will see it just fine
15:47 RealBadAngel start of a poem?
15:47 RealBadAngel lol
15:47 Calinou since the nodes are defined in lua
15:47 OldCoder Hmm
15:47 OldCoder So no snow slow below
15:48 RealBadAngel poem gets longer...
15:48 OldCoder No. Is snow slow?
15:48 * RealBadAngel waits for it to grow
15:48 OldCoder Hmm
15:48 OldCoder Nah. Busy.
15:48 RealBadAngel cmon
15:48 * OldCoder is tempted
15:48 OldCoder Let me be exempted
15:49 NekoGloop snow isnt slow
15:49 OldCoder Not well ATM and cannot blow about snow
15:49 OldCoder Oh
15:49 OldCoder Snow not slow
15:49 RealBadAngel rotfl
15:49 OldCoder To the worlds we will tow
15:49 OldCoder Snow
15:49 RealBadAngel with the snow
15:49 RealBadAngel slowly of course
15:49 OldCoder The lonely snow
15:51 RealBadAngel if minetest.env:find_nodes_near(pos,radius,"snow")== lonely then make it fall
15:52 RealBadAngel ooops forgot an "end" ;)
15:52 NekoGloop if shits_given == nil then shits_given = nil end
15:52 PilzAdam if minetest then aweseom() end
15:53 OldCoder Hmm
15:53 OldCoder Do I need a patch?
15:53 OldCoder oh
15:53 NekoGloop patch to what?
15:53 OldCoder nvm
15:53 OldCoder But snow is not slow; is this so?
15:53 NekoGloop yes
15:53 RealBadAngel just show me the way... to the next whiskey bar...
15:53 RealBadAngel and dont ask why...
15:53 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzIIX3bvARc&amp;feature=related
15:54 NekoGloop duet by one person
15:54 NekoGloop :D
15:54 OldCoder So no reason not to include dicormod in standard set either
15:56 Calinou and fuck. server crash
15:56 OldCoder Do panes and xpanes* conflict?
15:57 Calinou yes
15:57 Calinou xpanes > panes by far
15:57 OldCoder Calinou, I wish to boot a world that uses panes. I will patch it. Any suggestions?
15:58 RealBadAngel btw, offtopic, i just saw 20yrs old girl in the show X-factor in poland
15:58 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddoFUVE0RhQ&amp;feature=relmfu
15:58 Calinou OldCoder: use aliases/ABMs
15:58 OldCoder Calinou, Elaborate?
15:58 RealBadAngel shes amazing
15:58 Calinou > remove panes mod
15:58 OldCoder Yes
15:58 Calinou RealBadAngel: OVER THAN 18?????? OK!!!
15:58 OldCoder And ?
15:58 RealBadAngel i wasnt jokin, listen
15:58 Calinou minetest.register.alias("panes:pane", "xpanes:pane")
15:58 Calinou in xpanes mod, put that
15:58 RealBadAngel shes fuckin amazing
15:58 OldCoder Calinou, In init.lua?
15:58 Calinou yes
15:58 OldCoder k
15:59 Calinou although you will have to remove and replace em I think :/
16:01 OldCoder Calinou, remove and replace what?
16:02 Calinou the panes
16:02 OldCoder Ah
16:02 OldCoder nvm
16:02 OldCoder No time for that
16:02 OldCoder If anybody wants the following world, edit it:
16:02 OldCoder http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3066
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16:03 OldCoder So I cannot simply patch the mod?
16:03 OldCoder Calinou, ^
16:03 Calinou OldCoder: you'll have to use ABMs then
16:04 OldCoder O.K.
16:04 OldCoder What are those?
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16:04 Calinou based on xfences code:
16:04 Calinou put this in xpanes mod, at end:
16:04 OldCoder End of init.lua
16:05 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/1228708/
16:05 OldCoder Reviewing
16:05 OldCoder Calinou, ty
16:05 Calinou np
16:05 OldCoder Shouldn't this be part of the standard mod?
16:08 RealBadAngel thats a joke. of the engine
16:08 Calinou OldCoder: no
16:08 OldCoder k
16:09 OldCoder Curious
16:09 OldCoder Why not?
16:09 RealBadAngel when i started to die in a never ending series, i left the game for half an hour
16:09 RealBadAngel reloged then and guess what
16:09 RealBadAngel i keep dyin all the time
16:09 RealBadAngel no one dare please that is not FUCKED UP
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16:10 RealBadAngel its a mess
16:10 RealBadAngel big fuckin mess
16:10 OldCoder To repeat a question, is there any reason not to add dicormod to the default set?
16:10 Wyvrn How do you bind a key with a cmd?
16:11 Wyvrn eg. teleport
16:11 RealBadAngel it makes online gaming impossible
16:11 OldCoder I have three mods to go for a world: Carts, throwing, workers. Anybody care to comment on stable, depends, slow for those?
16:11 RealBadAngel am i the only one who is experiencin that shit???
16:12 Calinou Wyvrn: you cannot
16:12 Calinou if you want, make a patch. :3
16:12 Wyvrn oh
16:12 Calinou OldCoder: throwing is ok in speed, stable
16:12 Calinou workers sometimes crashes
16:13 Calinou carts is slow
16:13 OldCoder Last two go into a specific world then
16:13 Wyvrn is it possible to bind an action to key? such as setpos?
16:13 RealBadAngel throwing will suffer the same. lua entities mechanism
16:13 OldCoder Calinou, My world system allows use of default or alternate worlds
16:13 Calinou Wyvrn: no
16:13 RealBadAngel its unusable when it comes to online gaming
16:13 Wyvrn oh
16:14 Wyvrn thanks anyway
16:14 RealBadAngel any delays fucks up the gameplay
16:14 OldCoder RealBadAngel, we will find you a fast server
16:14 OldCoder Huh. Bows and arrows. You can shoot things.
16:14 RealBadAngel yeah
16:14 OldCoder All right
16:14 RealBadAngel you shoot
16:15 RealBadAngel and wait 10s for arrow to appear
16:15 OldCoder Slow?
16:15 Calinou RealBadAngel: it appears instantly...
16:15 RealBadAngel no
16:15 PilzAdam yes
16:15 RealBadAngel wanna bet?
16:15 NekoGloop yes it does
16:15 OldCoder I am adding bows and arrows
16:15 RealBadAngel i will set up a server
16:15 OldCoder You can settle this with a duel
16:15 PilzAdam NekoGloop has no vote right
16:15 OldCoder :-)
16:15 RealBadAngel with 300ms delay
16:15 NekoGloop Pilz: i was agreeing with you
16:16 RealBadAngel then you will wait 10s for an arrow to appear
16:16 RealBadAngel i have same with laser
16:16 NekoGloop then fix it
16:16 NekoGloop by getting a computer
16:17 RealBadAngel i can hear sound, have ores, stone collected
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16:17 NekoGloop with more than 1byte for processing
16:17 OldCoder frogcrush, wb
16:17 RealBadAngel and after 10 second i can see laser beam
16:17 OldCoder Wait
16:17 OldCoder You can settle this later
16:17 OldCoder New mods coming
16:18 RealBadAngel all because somethin some1 added between 0.4.1 and 0.4.3 to the network code
16:18 RealBadAngel and sent all the sync to hell
16:18 OldCoder No reason not to add dicormod?
16:19 RealBadAngel when are you playin on a server with about 100ms delay all is ok
16:19 RealBadAngel if the delay is bigger
16:19 RealBadAngel game goes nuts
16:20 RealBadAngel coconuts even
16:20 Jordach sigh
16:20 OldCoder Which of these is O.K. for Skyblock: dicormod, snow, throwing, xpanes
16:21 Jordach xpanes and dicormod
16:21 OldCoder k
16:21 Jordach you dont want expert pvp snipers
16:21 Jordach esp. with itemdrops
16:21 OldCoder Jordach, NekoGloop doesn't want itemdrops
16:21 OldCoder VanessaE does
16:21 Jordach VanessaE - i want words
16:22 RealBadAngel i do like item drops
16:22 OldCoder Why doesn't NekoGloop want them?
16:22 NekoGloop uhm, hello?
16:22 Jordach because he dies often
16:22 RealBadAngel hes gloopish, thats why ;)
16:22 NekoGloop digging in skyblock
16:22 NekoGloop digging in skyblock
16:22 NekoGloop you lose all the dirt
16:22 OldCoder Settle this now pleasae
16:22 OldCoder *please
16:22 RealBadAngel hehhee
16:22 NakedFury item drop in skyblock would be hard
16:23 RealBadAngel yup
16:23 RealBadAngel gameplay will be better
16:23 RealBadAngel harder
16:23 NakedFury extremely harder
16:23 RealBadAngel yes yes and YES
16:23 Jordach OldCoder, can you delete my player file from 30000
16:23 Jordach i cant login
16:23 RealBadAngel and that geeks likes at most
16:24 Jordach (in fact im getting invalid password on everything)
16:24 RealBadAngel easy come easy go
16:24 NekoGloop i dont want easy
16:24 OldCoder Jordach, Yes
16:24 NekoGloop i want possible
16:24 OldCoder Jordach, PM
16:24 RealBadAngel hard earned stay
16:25 RealBadAngel and brings joy
16:25 Calinou that's what she said
16:26 RealBadAngel makin things easy will not attract players
16:26 RealBadAngel they have to feel they made something
16:26 RealBadAngel hard way
16:26 NekoGloop if you want impossible, do it in singleplayer
16:26 RealBadAngel look at the games you played
16:27 Calinou <Jordach> you dont want expert pvp snipers
16:27 Calinou haha, I can imagine throwing with skyblock, lol
16:27 RealBadAngel what do you expect from games?
16:27 RealBadAngel easiness? point and click?
16:27 NekoGloop a challenge
16:27 RealBadAngel exactly
16:27 NekoGloop but this challenge needs to be feasible
16:27 RealBadAngel yup
16:27 RealBadAngel so just think
16:27 NekoGloop I dont want to sit there for hours while on level 1
16:28 tripod who feels like mumble
16:28 tripod I DOES
16:28 RealBadAngel before you break somethin make sure it wont just fall down
16:28 RealBadAngel THINK for christ sake
16:29 RealBadAngel anythin that came easy, is worh shit
16:29 NekoGloop item_drop doesnt give it to you in a manner that you can do that
16:29 NekoGloop the item just falls
16:29 NekoGloop nothing you can do about it
16:29 RealBadAngel of course it does
16:30 RealBadAngel make a layer below first
16:30 NekoGloop impossible until you have water
16:30 NekoGloop but then what am i supposed to do about people who want impossible
16:30 NekoGloop not my descision for people to be stupid
16:31 RealBadAngel thats planning
16:31 RealBadAngel i can break the layer when i made one below
16:31 RealBadAngel and decided to go below
16:32 Wyvrn how do you make a mod pause/sleep/wait for a duration?
16:32 NekoGloop and i suppose you also want items to burn in lava
16:32 NekoGloop or flow with liquids
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16:32 RealBadAngel youre tryin to prove ive played minecraft before or what?
16:33 NekoGloop i know you have
16:33 NekoGloop and so have i
16:33 NekoGloop i prefer mt
16:33 NekoGloop because mc is shit
16:33 RealBadAngel so do i
16:33 OldCoder carts won't slow things down if they're not used, right?
16:33 RealBadAngel its not shit
16:33 NekoGloop and those damn skeletons need to stfu
16:33 FreeFull Shift-click is all I want
16:33 OldCoder Wait... were they the crashy mod/
16:33 OldCoder ?
16:33 FreeFull Also for the chest bug to get fixed, if it hasn't already
16:33 * FreeFull test
16:33 Mikeonline Jordach: i added a detailed usage description to svn :P
16:34 FreeFull Ok, it's been fixed
16:35 RealBadAngel we are takin some minecraft shit and implementin them here because they are logical
16:35 OldCoder You guys are getting a bunch of new mods
16:35 RealBadAngel not because mc is great or shit
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16:36 FreeFull I really just want faster transfer from chest to inventory and vice vers
16:36 * PilzAdam too
16:36 NakedFury and furnace. the game sorts of reloads the furnace screen when you place stuff
16:37 NekoGloop because hacky_node_swap
16:37 PilzAdam NekoGloop, no, thats wrong
16:37 NekoGloop for furnace it's the problem
16:37 PilzAdam furnace problem = chest problem
16:37 FreeFull The left click thing?
16:38 NekoGloop the thing nakedfury said
16:38 NekoGloop not what you're saying
16:38 NekoGloop lrn2read
16:38 PilzAdam and only furnace uses hacky_swap_node
16:38 FreeFull Where it briefly displays something about left click instead of the furnace screen
16:38 NekoGloop NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
16:38 NekoGloop YOU IDIOTS
16:38 OldCoder ?
16:38 NekoGloop LISTEN TO WHAT I'M SAYING
16:38 PilzAdam ?
16:39 NekoGloop hacky_node_swap IS WHY THE FURNACE SCREEN RELOADS
16:39 NekoGloop BECAUSE OF SWAP TO ACTIVE FURNACE
16:39 FreeFull And why are you shouting about this?
16:39 NekoGloop because you idiots are incapable of understanding simple english
16:40 OldCoder While I am at it: Does anybody have more favorite mods that are: stable low depends non-crashy fast?
16:40 PilzAdam NekoGloop, dont understanding english and dont agree to what you say are different things
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16:41 NekoGloop you fucking idiot
16:41 PilzAdam please, chill
16:41 NekoGloop forget about the chest problem
16:41 NekoGloop do you not understand english?
16:41 RealBadAngel neko....
16:41 T_A_N_K this dwarfes game mode is unfathomobly good
16:41 RealBadAngel shut up and dance
16:41 FreeFull NekoGloop: I think PilzAdam was talking about the problem where items disappear, not where the furnace screen reloads
16:41 PilzAdam hi T_A_N_K
16:42 FreeFull Maybe
16:42 T_A_N_K good day pilzadam
16:42 RealBadAngel hacky_swap_node just preserves meta
16:42 NekoGloop AND NAKEDFURY SAID SOMETHING ELSE
16:42 NekoGloop NOW FUCKING READ WHAT HE SAID
16:42 Jordach NekoGloop, i've rubbed your rage before, CHILL.
16:42 PilzAdam let him say what he want
16:42 NekoGloop "<NakedFury> and furnace. the game sorts of reloads the furnace screen when you place stuff"
16:42 RealBadAngel so you both shut up
16:42 Jordach @ALL IN #MINETEST - CHILL.
16:42 MiJyn Jordach, +1
16:42 NekoGloop now do you fucking understand what i was saying?
16:43 MiJyn NekoGlooop, I do not effing understand what you say, but I do "understand"
16:43 Jordach yes, we know. (no sarcasm.)
16:43 Jordach ive seen the reload my self
16:43 PilzAdam NekoGloop, i understand you, but its not the problem i am talking about
16:43 NekoGloop PilzAdam: but i wasnt originally talking to you
16:44 PilzAdam i was talkig to FreeFull
16:44 NekoGloop and i was talking to NakedFury
16:45 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEk0bamXv6k
16:45 RealBadAngel for chill out
16:45 PilzAdam :-)
16:45 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&amp;NR=1&amp;v=aUQ1TH0MDUk
16:45 RealBadAngel wont click
16:46 NekoGloop because you are an idiot
16:46 RealBadAngel its manga 110%
16:46 NekoGloop like the rest of #minetest
16:46 OldCoder Folks I am shutting down my servers for about 5 minutes to add new mods and a new world
16:46 PilzAdam NekoGloop is in the rest of minetest
16:46 OldCoder save your work please
16:46 NekoGloop manga ~= anime ~= vocaloid ~= nico nico douga
16:46 RealBadAngel stupid me
16:46 RealBadAngel clicked
16:46 T_A_N_K bb
16:47 RealBadAngel shall wrote 120%
16:47 PilzAdam haha
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16:48 OldCoder Muadtralk, hi
16:49 Jordach SUP sdzen
16:50 OldCoder Don't join
16:50 OldCoder Crash
16:50 OldCoder One moment
16:51 OldCoder skyblock_game/mods/dicormod/init.lua:
16:51 OldCoder ERROR[main]: .../minetest/games/skyblock_game/mods/
16:51 OldCoder dicormod/init.lua:262: attempt to index global 'default' (a nil value)
16:51 OldCoder Do no dicormod? Any comments?
16:51 OldCoder *So
16:52 NekoGloop it needs a depends.txt with default in it
16:52 OldCoder k
16:52 OldCoder om
16:52 OldCoder Old! ?
16:53 NekoGloop ?
16:53 * VanessaE peeks in
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16:53 VanessaE hi all.
16:53 Calinou hi VanessaE
16:53 OldCoder VanessaE, hi
16:53 PilzAdam hi VanessaE
16:53 jordach VanessaE, y u likw item drop
16:53 VanessaE well as a major change of subject, my husband is officially no longer full of shit ;)
16:54 jordach HA!
16:54 VanessaE jordach: because hundreds of fallen leaves entities = ten thousand clicks to clean up after felling 10 trees.
16:54 VanessaE I just want the magnetic pick-up function
16:54 Calinou your husband is a hundred of falling leaves?
16:54 Calinou :P
16:54 jordach VanessaE, my old server used that
16:54 VanessaE not the drop-on-dig function
16:55 jordach no, the leaves dropped default:leaves
16:55 VanessaE Calinou: heh, no.  :-)
16:55 jordach VanessaE, is he empty?
16:55 VanessaE jordach: yup.  colonoscopy.
16:55 VanessaE ANYway
16:55 VanessaE that was supposed to be a one-liner joke.
16:55 jordach i quite like the full of shit gag
16:55 VanessaE put the magnetic pickup part of item_drop in and be done with it :-)
16:57 jordach ahh..
16:57 PilzAdam jordach, wheres your capital "J"?
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16:58 jordach my pc random rebooted after a cpu overload
16:58 MiJyn PilzAdam, he's even in the top-secret MT channel
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17:01 NakedFury <VanessaE> jordach: because hundreds of fallen leaves entities = ten thousand clicks to clean up after felling 10 trees== It is actually 70+ leafs per tree in skyblock
17:01 NakedFury it is too much
17:01 VanessaE yes
17:01 VanessaE ten trees * 70 leaves per = 700 leaves.  That's "hundreds".
17:01 NakedFury should be lowered to a normal amount
17:01 VanessaE ten thousand was an exaggeration :-)
17:02 NakedFury yes its to exagerated
17:02 NakedFury if the tree has 10 leafs then you get 10 leafs
17:02 mika_r vanessaE, sometimes lag causes to click several times
17:06 OldCoder New world coming in a few minutes
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17:17 OldCoder
17:17 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/
17:17 OldCoder New mods and a new world! Enjoy. I am hosting seven MT worlds now.
17:17 OldCoder
17:17 OldCoder Zzz
17:17 * OldCoder is resting
17:18 jordach OldCoder now holds the record for most servers ran at once
17:19 NekoGloop how do i make it so that leafdecay has a chance of dropping the leaves themselves, but not always?
17:19 NekoGloop or, rather, how do i get a random number from a range?
17:21 NekoGloop ... well fine then
17:21 jordach PilzAdam, whats the package name for the qt libs
17:21 MiJyn jordach, libqt4-dev
17:21 MiJyn ?
17:21 MiJyn libqt4-gui
17:21 MiJyn that should do it
17:21 NekoGloop can noone tell me how to do this?
17:22 VanessaE I'd tell you but I just don't remember.
17:22 VanessaE ironzorg's old flowers mod uses it though, maybe look through that?
17:22 MiJyn NekoGloop, cat /dev/urandom | od
17:22 NekoGloop ....
17:22 NekoGloop ni lua
17:22 NekoGloop in*
17:23 PilzAdam anyone knows what this does in minetest.conf: #desynchronize_mapblock_texture_animation
17:23 jordach the animations dont play in sync
17:23 jordach simple
17:23 VanessaE PilzAdam: animated textures normally all show the same frame regardless of where the animated object is in the map
17:23 jordach ^ that
17:23 VanessaE allowing desync takes less CPU as I recall.
17:24 VanessaE it allows each mapblock to show animations from a different frame offset
17:24 NekoGloop also, now there is a channel called #desynchronize_mapblock_texture_animation
17:24 jordach NekoGloop, thats a comment for the minetest.conf
17:24 NekoGloop i know
17:25 jordach nyan!
17:25 NekoGloop anyway, can someone tell me how to do a random number from a range?
17:25 * VanessaE steals jordach's nyancat
17:25 NekoGloop PilzAdam, maybe?
17:25 Calinou NekoGloop: hashtag!
17:25 Calinou NekoGloop: math.random
17:25 MiJyn NekoGloop, I think it's something with minetest.PseudoRandom
17:25 NekoGloop from a RANGE
17:25 * jordach plays in creative mode
17:26 Calinou range = between x and y?
17:26 NekoGloop not an entirely fucking random number
17:26 NekoGloop yes
17:26 NekoGloop i want to specify x and y
17:26 Calinou math.random(1,222)
17:26 MiJyn NekoGloop, you could do: (math.random() % y) + x
17:26 Calinou random between 1 and 22
17:26 Calinou 222*
17:26 Calinou integer as always
17:26 Calinou MiJyn: this is not cubescript 8)
17:26 MiJyn Calinou, it's still valid
17:27 Calinou I know
17:27 VanessaE MiJyn's method resembles how I used to do random numbers in BASIC
17:27 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOIxHLGWgQE
17:27 Calinou in cubescript, you must do that, you can only specify max range, which does not include the number itself (eg: rnd 5 = between 0 and 4) :P
17:27 Lumpio- in b4 "that makes for bad random numbers"
17:28 Calinou Lumpio-: YAY, RMS WILL HATE US IF WE DO THAT.
17:28 Calinou we'll have to use GPG keys for randomness
17:28 Calinou spam the shift keys
17:28 MiJyn Calinou, you don't like RMS?
17:28 VanessaE Calinou: c64 BASIC does that.  RND(1)*range+lowest
17:28 Calinou MiJyn: lol, no.
17:28 Calinou usable linux all the way
17:29 MiJyn VanessaE, using RND(x)%range+lowest is better (% is for the remainder)
17:29 NakedFury how rare to see mijyn here
17:29 VanessaE MiJyn: in that particular BASIC dialect, there's no modulus operator
17:29 jordach does anyone know how to compile sapiers WIM on Ubuntu?
17:29 VanessaE or remainder
17:29 MiJyn VanessaE, oh
17:29 MiJyn NakedFury lol
17:29 Calinou jordach: install Qt dev libs, compile? :P
17:30 jordach fails
17:30 Calinou reason? paste errors
17:30 VanessaE of course that dialect returns floats, so INT(RND(1)*range)+lowest is closer to what Lua does
17:30 MiJyn jordach, just qt4-dev-tools
17:30 FreeFull MiJyn: % isn't good unless the range is a power of two
17:30 MiJyn FreeFull, really?
17:32 FreeFull I think RND(x)/(maxrnd/range) + lowest might or might not be better
17:33 FreeFull Possibly not
17:33 MiJyn v = RND(x); lowest + v - (INT(v / range) * range)
17:34 MiJyn :P
17:34 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOIxHLGWgQE&amp;feature=relmfu
17:34 NekoGloop oh wait its the same one as before
17:34 NekoGloop carry on
17:35 MiJyn NekoGloop, what's with your obsession with Manga/Anime?
17:35 Calinou so this happened on #minecraftforums @ espernet: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1228873/
17:35 NekoGloop not manga/anime per say
17:35 Lumpio- But that's vocaloid stuff
17:35 NekoGloop I like the music
17:35 NekoGloop I dont care too much for the video itself
17:35 Lumpio- As are all the other links I've seen posted here.
17:35 NekoGloop Lumpio-: agreed
17:35 NekoGloop but these idiots dont know the difference
17:36 Lumpio- Yeah, everything Japanese = ANIME SHIT
17:36 NekoGloop actually, I've posted some nico nico douga stuff as well
17:36 MiJyn :P
17:36 Calinou everything japanese = OPENARENA
17:36 NekoGloop like zebra and hashiyan matryoshka
17:36 Calinou put everything japanese, plus penguins, in OA
17:36 MiJyn Everything Japanese = K!
17:36 MiJyn (Fujitsu K)
17:37 Lumpio- oh, I probably wasn't around for that
17:37 MiJyn Lumpio- I think it started in 2010
17:37 Lumpio- What did?
17:38 NekoGloop and now i lost all that i just coded
17:38 Lumpio- Save early, save often
17:38 NekoGloop apparently notepad++ doesnt want me making a new gamemode
17:38 VanessaE NekoGloop: so you're saying it's derpy? ;)
17:39 jordach http://paste.ubuntu.com/1228881/ - any clue?
17:39 Lumpio- ...the directory "release" doesn't exist?
17:39 jordach sapiers WIM
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17:39 jordach http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3162
17:40 Calinou +1 for ubuntu pastebin :
17:40 VanessaE jordach: answer your msg you schmuck :-)
17:40 Calinou :P
17:40 Calinou maybe sapier will reply
17:40 MiJyn -1 for not using pastebin.com
17:40 jordach lolPastebin
17:40 NekoGloop http://pastebin.com/KCmHYXCy found this in the minetest_game\default\init.lua
17:40 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, hacky_swap_node example : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qPBPt2IGy4
17:41 NekoGloop why is inventory_image set twice...
17:41 Calinou MiJyn: pastebin.com is terrible
17:41 Calinou ads, slow loading, captchas
17:41 MiJyn Calinou, that's why I love it!
17:41 NekoGloop it's only confusing the code more than it needs to
17:41 Calinou lol
17:42 MiJyn doesn't everyone love ads?
17:42 jordach AdBlock
17:42 VanessaE yeah, as much as we love dental work and nails on chalkboard :-)
17:43 thexyz catblock
17:43 Calinou thexyz: +1
17:43 Calinou inb4 MiJyn +1s catblock
17:43 jordach -1
17:43 NekoGloop VanessaE: http://pastebin.com/KCmHYXCy does this make ANY sense at all?
17:43 Calinou catblock is still available if you use linux... but you must donate if you use any other os, iirc
17:43 Calinou looks like
17:43 MiJyn Calinou, I'd NEVER do that! :P
17:43 VanessaE NekoGloop: why are there two inventory_image lines?
17:43 NekoGloop exactly
17:43 jordach thats in the default game
17:44 VanessaE weird.
17:44 thexyz NekoGloop: fill bugreport
17:44 NekoGloop too lazy
17:44 jordach https://github.com/sapier/wim
17:44 jordach anyone?
17:44 NekoGloop windows precompile and i'll bite
17:44 VanessaE catblock?  "Pastry Kitty" :-)
17:45 NekoGloop Meow~?
17:45 jordach nyan
17:45 jordach NekoGloop, there is windows builds
17:45 jordach look on the forum#
17:45 jordach :D
17:46 thexyz jordach: why don't just make plugin for blender?
17:46 NekoGloop because not everyone has blenders
17:46 NekoGloop noone wants smoothies :3
17:46 * VanessaE loves a good smoothie
17:47 MiJyn thexyz, I made that :D
17:48 MiJyn but, of course, it's not public yet
17:48 jordach *smells troll*
17:48 NekoGloop who else wants a book you can write in?
17:48 Calinou thexyz: yeah, but nodeboxes are limited, so that's not really possible
17:48 MiJyn jordach, ?
17:49 MiJyn Calinou, then how did I make it?
17:49 Mikeonline is there a command to reload mods only or restart the server?
17:49 VanessaE NekoGloop: +1
17:49 jordach nope.
17:49 Calinou MiJyn: what when you rotate cubes when you try to export?
17:49 MiJyn Calinou, rotation is not supported yet
17:50 thexyz Calinou: don't use anything except cubes in blender then
17:50 thexyz i've already written simple export script
17:50 MiJyn thexyz, spheres are supported
17:51 VanessaE bbl
17:52 thexyz MiJyn: what? i thought minetest doesn't support spheres
17:52 NekoGloop blender does
17:52 NekoGloop not mt
17:52 MiJyn thexyz, I know. It just changes a sphere into cubes
17:52 thexyz that's just wrong then
17:53 MiJyn well, what? Ignore sphere support?
17:53 thexyz yes
17:53 MiJyn nah
17:53 MiJyn I added it
17:53 MiJyn I'm not going to remove it
17:53 MiJyn people just don't have to use spheres
17:54 thexyz then "brave yourself, stupid mods with >1k nodeboxes are coming"
17:54 MiJyn *brace
17:54 MiJyn yep
17:54 thexyz oops, yes
17:54 MiJyn they go ahead
17:55 MiJyn (but you can also change the detail level, so you can have smaller spheres)
17:55 MiJyn I still have to add cone support
17:55 MiJyn that will be harder :/
17:56 thexyz c55 will hate you ^^
17:56 NekoGloop minetest.registered_nodes[name].groups.sand checks the group sand, correct?
17:56 MiJyn thexyz, IDC about him.
17:56 MiJyn I already dislike him
17:57 MiJyn he said once that I'd never help minetest in a good way
17:57 MiJyn yeah right
17:57 MiJyn he was just angry of someone challenging his opinion
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18:00 NekoGloop minetest.registered_nodes[name].groups.sand checks the group sand, correct?
18:01 RealBadAngel nctr = minetest.env:get_node(pos)
18:02 NekoGloop continue
18:02 RealBadAngel minetest.get_item_group(nctr.name, "group") == 1
18:02 NekoGloop ah, i see
18:02 RealBadAngel group == defined group
18:02 NekoGloop but will my method work as well?
18:03 RealBadAngel dunno
18:03 NekoGloop k
18:03 RealBadAngel this one works
18:03 RealBadAngel stripped from VanessaE code
18:04 RealBadAngel she made it to detect my machines
18:04 MiJyn lol
18:04 NekoGloop i see
18:08 RealBadAngel so if node is in defined group call will return 1
18:08 NekoGloop i see
18:09 RealBadAngel full example:
18:09 RealBadAngel nctr = minetest.env:get_node(pos)
18:09 RealBadAngel print ("minetest.get_item_group("..nctr.name..',"tubedevice") == '..minetest.get_item_group(nctr.name, "tubedevice"))
18:09 RealBadAngel if (string.find(nctr.name, "pipeworks:tube_") == nil)
18:09 RealBadAngel and minetest.get_item_group(nctr.name, "tubedevice") ~= 1 then return end
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18:10 RealBadAngel pipeworks autoplace.lua line 44
18:10 NekoGloop kk
18:15 NekoGloop should clay be treated as dirt for the purpose of growing plants?
18:15 NekoGloop (e.g. papyrus)
18:15 PilzAdam @everyone: do you think this is a better minetest.conf.example: http://ompldr.org/vZm5lZw/my_minetest.conf.example ?
18:15 NekoGloop PilzAdam: yes. just from clicking it.
18:19 Calinou +1 PilzAdam
18:19 Calinou put spaces after #, always
18:19 Calinou "enable_texture_atlas = true# make a big image of all small node images" < needs more description
18:20 Calinou "put small (16x16) node textures in an atlas to improve performance" would be better
18:20 Calinou "# maximum view range" should be "maximum view range (in nodes)"
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18:21 NekoGloop hello cornernote
18:21 Calinou hi windows modder
18:21 * Calinou highfives cornernote
18:21 Calinou :P
18:21 Calinou gtg now... dinner, bye
18:22 Mikeonline can someone help here: http://pastebin.com/vyTnsjeu
18:22 Mikeonline sender:get_player_name does not work here
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18:24 Mikeonline wb PilzAdam
18:24 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=44708
18:25 NekoGloop cool
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18:27 hmmmm ...
18:28 hmmmm there's nothing wrong with minetest.conf.example
18:28 Mikeonline mhhh
18:28 NekoGloop hmmmm: there's everything wrong with it
18:28 NekoGloop it sucks
18:28 hmmmm no, there's not.
18:28 hmmmm there's nothing wrong with it at all.
18:29 PilzAdam every single setting has as # in front of it so you cant see setting very well
18:30 hmmmm that's completely standard for default configuration files
18:30 PilzAdam then its not a god standard IMO
18:30 PilzAdam *good
18:30 NekoGloop s/IMO/at all
18:31 NekoGloop FTFY
18:31 hmmmm you two are basically the only people who have a problem with that
18:31 NekoGloop everyone does
18:31 hmmmm do you think that using '-' to specify if something is a command line flag is wrong too?
18:32 NekoGloop except you
18:32 PilzAdam so there is now a better file for two people in the forum
18:32 hmmmm also.
18:32 hmmmm your version is way longer than 80 columns.
18:32 hmmmm so it'd get chopped off and screwed up in lots of peoples' editors
18:33 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOIxHLGWgQE&amp;feature=relmfu
18:33 NekoGloop not mine
18:33 NekoGloop because 16:9 screen
18:33 PilzAdam my version has more sections than the default one; in the default one there are graphic things "mixed up" with other client things
18:34 PilzAdam gtg
18:34 PilzAdam bye
18:36 NekoGloop what is the default cooktime if one is not specified?
18:38 thexyz #----GRAPHIC----
18:38 thexyz # show window in fullscreen
18:38 thexyz fullscreen = false
18:38 thexyz isn't that better?
18:39 NekoGloop nop
18:41 thexyz why no?
18:41 thexyz explain
18:42 NekoGloop because clutter
18:42 thexyz where's clutter? setting's description goes right before it
18:44 thexyz current pilzadam's version is not inconvenient, for example, i'm used to jumping to specific line, then pressing "end", then editing setting
18:54 jordach anyone know qmake?
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19:08 T_A_N_K what's the dll that you have to put into minetest's bin folder to get sound on windows?
19:09 Lumpio- linux.dll
19:09 T_A_N_K no seriously, the minetest forum seems to be blocked on this pc, and i just want to get this done quick
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19:10 hmmmm openal.dll?
19:11 thexyz jordach: "don't ask to ask"
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19:13 T_A_N_K yes jordach, ask to tell
19:17 T_A_N_K minetest seems to not have sound on windows vista 32 bit
19:22 * jordach seriously N00BED
19:22 thexyz ?
19:22 jordach worked out how WIM Works
19:25 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: OpenAL.dll
19:25 NekoGloop install OpenAL
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19:28 NekoGloop has anyone else realized that on_step simply calls a globalstep?
19:28 jordach i just made a minecraft chest that is smaller than the normal one
19:28 NekoGloop cool
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19:31 jordach anyone wanna see pokemon models made from WIM?
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19:33 NekoGloop sure
19:33 jordach ill start with a fav
19:33 NekoGloop make groudon :D
19:33 jordach that nodebox will be accurately lifesize scaled
19:34 NekoGloop *thinks for a bit*
19:34 NekoGloop HOLY SHIT THAT'S GONNA BE A HUGE NODEBOX
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20:02 jordach NekoGloop, ive done the legs, body, and the first arm
20:02 NekoGloop of?
20:02 jordach (un textured)
20:02 jordach lets filter
20:03 jordach humanshape (/me does not follow egg group)
20:03 NekoGloop i have no idea :3
20:03 jordach gen4
20:03 NekoGloop uh...............................
20:03 NekoGloop uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...............
20:03 NekoGloop UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.................
20:03 NekoGloop idk
20:04 jordach apparently, "diamonds" are a girls best friend#
20:04 jordach also tip; jewel
20:04 NekoGloop still no idea
20:04 FreeFull And dogs are men's best friends
20:04 jordach -1
20:04 jordach cats are
20:04 jordach :D
20:04 NekoGloop Meow~! :3
20:04 jordach hint; stands around 1.67 meters
20:05 * FreeFull pets NekoGloop
20:05 NekoGloop no idea
20:05 * NekoGloop purrs >w<
20:05 FreeFull jordach: You?
20:05 jordach only three
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20:05 jordach any more, you die
20:05 RealBadAngel tried again to play
20:05 jordach lagged like crapsicles
20:05 RealBadAngel its impossible now for me to play on any us server
20:06 NekoGloop singleplayer seablock is laggy as hell
20:06 LAD i put all the leavs in your chest RBA
20:07 NekoGloop (you can set skyblock to generate water everywhere)
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20:07 RealBadAngel lad, so what. thx anyway
20:07 RealBadAngel but i cant play there
20:07 LAD ok
20:07 LAD y is every 1 lagging
20:07 LAD im not
20:07 RealBadAngel if i stand by a tree choppin it down for 2 minutes
20:07 RealBadAngel and see tree regenerating all the time
20:07 LAD oh ok
20:08 RealBadAngel when i place blocks they dissapear and appear after half a minute
20:08 RealBadAngel and im falling down
20:09 RealBadAngel once fallen im being killed 20 times in a row
20:09 RealBadAngel fuck this
20:09 Muadtralk rawr
20:09 RealBadAngel even hardcore player will say enough
20:09 Muadtralk use my server!
20:09 Muadtralk actually it crashed again
20:09 cornernote hi
20:09 cornernote i am trying to use minetest.after(time, func, param) , and pass a param
20:09 cornernote like this..
20:10 RealBadAngel thats not a problem with certain server sdzen
20:10 Muadtralk ah big issues
20:10 RealBadAngel its a problem with fucked up network code
20:10 cornernote minetest.after(1, function(my_arg)end, my_arg)
20:10 cornernote but it doesnt seem to work, any tips ?
20:11 RealBadAngel any lag cause the desync
20:11 RealBadAngel and game go nuts
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20:11 RealBadAngel i actually feel like i was on mars tryin to play
20:12 RealBadAngel with distance caused lag
20:12 NekoGloop it's not a problem with networking, but rather with minetest itself
20:12 NekoGloop try singleplayer skyblock
20:12 RealBadAngel why the fuck im able to play FPS games with same connection
20:12 NekoGloop same lag will be present
20:12 RealBadAngel and cant play simple block game for fuck sake
20:13 RealBadAngel lets play unreal NekoGloop
20:13 NekoGloop cornernote: for fucks sake, let us disable the spam of the cmd consolde
20:13 NekoGloop console*
20:14 RealBadAngel you will see
20:14 NekoGloop realbadangel: i have no idea what you jsut said
20:14 RealBadAngel UNREAL
20:14 RealBadAngel got that?
20:14 NekoGloop ...?
20:14 RealBadAngel damn.....
20:14 RealBadAngel ask uncle google what unreal is
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20:14 RealBadAngel FPS shooter
20:15 jordach dag nabbit
20:15 jordach closed it without saving :(
20:15 RealBadAngel Unreal Tournament
20:15 jordach was 93% done too
20:15 jordach night all
20:15 RealBadAngel n8
20:16 iqualfragile n8
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20:48 NekoGloop portal flash game.
20:48 NekoGloop wtf.
20:48 NekoGloop freakin impossible
20:49 NakedFury sidescroller?
20:49 NakedFury I played one like that at kongregate
20:49 NekoGloop http://www.arkgames.info/?portfolio=portal
20:49 NekoGloop yes
20:49 NekoGloop i think
20:49 NekoGloop lvl15 imbossible ;_;
20:50 NekoGloop impossible*
20:51 NekoGloop would be easier in 3d, i think
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20:53 OldCoder NekoGloop, Servers restarted
20:53 NekoGloop cool
20:53 NekoGloop not currently playing minetest though XD
20:54 OldCoder That is fine
20:54 OldCoder Just nailing down pieces
20:54 OldCoder Of the minish variety
20:54 NakedFury I wish I could move the level block
20:55 NakedFury sadly I made my island revolve around block 1 and now its in the middle of it blocking my cool stairs
20:55 OldCoder NakedFury, where is this?
20:55 NakedFury omg episode 1 of the new how I met your mother series
20:56 OldCoder ?
20:56 OldCoder There is a new series?
20:56 NakedFury the skyblock island.... season 8
20:56 OldCoder Ah
20:56 NakedFury Season 8 Episode 1 Farhamption
20:56 * OldCoder back later
20:57 iqualfragile tears of steel ist out
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21:02 * mika_r ()
21:03 mika_r anyone online?
21:03 FreeFull No
21:03 iqualfragile nobody is ever online in this 80-people-channel
21:03 mika_r ok, good, so it doesn't make a difference if i fail and post my password here
21:05 mika_r damn i hate this
21:05 iqualfragile thats correct
21:05 iqualfragile even if you would post your password here we would just see stars
21:05 iqualfragile let me demonstate: **************************************************************************************************
21:05 iqualfragile (well, im using a fairly secure password)
21:05 mika_r first it prompts me to sign in when i identify it says i'm already logged in
21:06 mika_r *********
21:06 mika_r seems legit
21:07 thexyz ☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆
21:07 thexyz yes, stars
21:07 MiJyn :D
21:11 mika_r anone using minetoon textures?
21:11 iqualfragile meth
21:11 iqualfragile uhm… me
21:12 * VanessaE peeks in
21:13 VanessaE hi
21:14 mika_r hi
21:15 RealBadAngel hi VanessaE
21:15 VanessaE hi all :)
21:17 pskosinski 360
21:17 pskosinski meh, sorry
21:17 OldCoder VanessaE, hello
21:18 VanessaE what's news?
21:18 NekoGloop I'm standing in a portal
21:18 NekoGloop http://www.arkgames.info/?portfolio=portal
21:25 OldCoder
21:25 OldCoder Stopping servers to update Skyblock
21:28 OldCoder Servers restarted
21:28 OldCoder VanessaE, test new Skyblock please
21:28 VanessaE doesn't connect.
21:29 OldCoder Checking
21:29 OldCoder Ah
21:29 OldCoder Wait
21:29 OldCoder That's what I get for doing it manually and not rebuilding
21:29 OldCoder Tell him...
21:29 OldCoder To remove the "fire" dependency
21:30 OldCoder Doing that now
21:30 VanessaE ok
21:31 OldCoder VanessaE, try it now
21:32 VanessaE connecting...
21:32 cornernote fire is only required because its fun when things burn
21:32 cornernote there is nothing ingame that depends on it, only the line in depends.txt
21:32 cornernote want me to remove it in the mod ?
21:33 OldCoder cornernote, Yes
21:33 OldCoder cornernote, It causes crashes in Skyblock
21:33 OldCoder Apparently
21:33 OldCoder NekoGloop or RBA noticed this
21:33 OldCoder Can be debugged later
21:33 OldCoder Something to do with the large amount of vegetation IIRC
21:33 NekoGloop me
21:33 OldCoder Goal right now is to stabilize
21:33 NekoGloop and yes
21:33 OldCoder NekoGloop, thx
21:33 OldCoder To make these worlds 100% solid
21:34 OldCoder Then to nail down the pieces that stick up
21:34 OldCoder Eventually
21:34 OldCoder You'll have something to show the media
21:34 OldCoder Wikipedia Page be damned
21:35 OldCoder NekoGloop, cornernote, VanessaE, etc.: Eventually I'll have a simple update mechanism. It will pull mods into a live framework.
21:36 OldCoder Until then just advise me of bug fixes in mods
21:36 OldCoder mod list is on my webpage
21:36 OldCoder mika_r, I am using HexChat with my own patches
21:37 mika_r ?
21:37 OldCoder mika_r, somebody with your nick just VERSIONd me
21:37 OldCoder Not you? Hmm
21:37 OldCoder * Received a CTCP TIME from mika_r
21:38 OldCoder * Received a CTCP VERSION from mika_r
21:38 VanessaE yay!  level 3 complete....and now there's a level 4!?  erk
21:38 mika_r it was me, hard to use this app
21:38 OldCoder Ah
21:38 OldCoder VanessaE, Have fun
21:38 cornernote fire is removed from depends.txt
21:38 NekoGloop oh now there's a level 4?
21:38 cornernote VanessaE, not really a level 4
21:38 OldCoder cornernote, ty
21:38 cornernote theres a new sphere
21:38 cornernote and a level 4 block
21:38 cornernote but no missions
21:38 * OldCoder will bbs
21:38 VanessaE oh ok
21:39 mika_r oldcoder, i left the game loading today when i went away but it was still laggy when i got back
21:39 cornernote feel free to make your own levels, i'll add them in
21:39 OldCoder mika_r, Your country is, again?
21:39 cornernote just look in the levels folder
21:39 mika_r finland
21:39 OldCoder mika_r, Yes. The new servers don't work well for Europe. I'll look into this. It will depend on the co$t.
21:39 OldCoder $$$
21:39 OldCoder bbs
21:40 mika_r ok
21:42 VanessaE cornernote: idea - add in unified dyes, require the player to do something with all the flowers they've likely collected by this point.
21:43 NekoGloop flowers is added externally from skyblock
21:43 VanessaE for the sake of ratios, I have 3 rose, 55 tulip, 52 yellow dandelion, about 220 cactus, 37 geraniums, 3 violas, 104 cotton, 8 white dandelion, and 6 seaweed at this point.
21:44 mika_r time to go, bye
21:44 VanessaE NekoGloop: that's ok, UD requires flowers anyway; depending on one depends on the other anyway
21:45 VanessaE (which, by the way, tells me I need to increase the likelyhood of getting roses and violas)
21:45 VanessaE (I'll issue an update later today)
21:45 NekoGloop roses yes, violas not really
21:46 VanessaE no?
21:46 VanessaE I barely found any
21:46 NekoGloop if you want to, then sure
21:46 NekoGloop in actual worlds, it seems they are much moer common
21:47 VanessaE roses are?
21:47 VanessaE interesting.
21:47 NekoGloop no
21:47 NekoGloop violas are
21:47 NekoGloop not roses
21:47 NekoGloop roses are rare as hell
21:48 VanessaE haha
21:48 VanessaE not here
21:48 VanessaE they're all over the damn place
21:48 VanessaE we have rose gardens around the lake, in every color the damn things usually grow in :-)
21:48 NekoGloop lol
21:48 NekoGloop not real worlds
21:48 VanessaE you mean not in the wild
21:48 NekoGloop i meant "real" minetest worlds
21:48 VanessaE oh
21:49 Mikeonline n8 all
21:49 VanessaE well I'd like them to be about as prolific, relative to one another, as in the real world
21:50 VanessaE (if there's twice as many tulips as violas in real life, it should be that way in the mod, even if they're far more common otherwise
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21:51 Octupus hello
21:51 VanessaE hi Octupus
21:52 NekoGloop Meow
21:52 Octupus :)
21:53 OldCoder Octupus, wb
21:53 Octupus hi
21:54 OldCoder VanessaE, any consensus yet on the item drop changes? Some sort of modified version?
21:54 VanessaE not sure yet
21:54 VanessaE cornernote seems to think it's generally okay idea
22:02 OldCoder VanessaE, I am sure it will be worked out
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22:21 T_A_N_K redcrab, please reset my password on your 0.4.3 server
22:21 iqualfragile dont!
22:22 T_A_N_K dont reset my password?
22:22 iqualfragile exactly
22:22 T_A_N_K wtf are you talking about
22:22 iqualfragile landmine likes your name far too much
22:22 T_A_N_K i need it reset because i need to create a new one -_-
22:32 MiJyn lol
22:39 iqualfragile MESE (as Military Enveloped Special Equipment)
22:41 MiJyn yes
22:41 MiJyn of course
22:43 Octupus Nyan_Cat (that game on the app store )
22:43 Octupus :)
22:47 Lumpio- mese 8D
22:48 Octupus there i fixed the world
22:50 NekoGloop joined #minetest
22:51 OldCoder NekoGloop, wb
22:51 NekoGloop On ipad now
22:51 NekoGloop :P
22:54 MiJyn interesting: http://www.google.com/trends/?q=minetest,+minecraft&amp;ctab=0&amp;geo=all&amp;date=all&amp;sort=0
22:55 MiJyn wow, minecraft is more popular than microsoft! :P http://www.google.com/trends/?q=minecraft,+microsoft&amp;ctab=0&amp;geo=all&amp;date=all&amp;sort=0
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23:00 NekoGloop XD
23:02 Octupus lol
23:02 Octupus mc is more popular then micheal phelps
23:02 Octupus :l
23:02 MiJyn lol
23:02 MiJyn MC is more popular than anything lol
23:02 Octupus XD
23:04 Octupus that isnt very fair :)
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23:19 Octupus is it a good sign to have jesus cruxified on the day number u were born
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23:25 Octupus_ srry i timed out
23:26 Octupus_ i guess codepad doesnt take big python codes :l
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23:47 bas080 Had to share this idea... coral mod... a reason to appreciate oceans a bit more.
23:47 NekoGloop Hm...
23:47 NekoGloop Awesome idea.
23:47 NakedFury will look weird if you dont make the items with water
23:47 NekoGloop But how do we detect oceans!
23:48 bas080 I would be more likely to build an underwater house
23:48 NekoGloop NakedFury: Make them be full nodes
23:48 bas080 Corals grow not that deep
23:48 NekoGloop Perhaps...
23:48 bas080 so check if near air but still under water
23:48 NekoGloop Ore generation code? :D
23:49 bas080 That should work...
23:49 bas080 Have to play with the arguments to get some cool shapes.
23:49 bas080 NakedFury, good point unless corals are nodes.
23:49 NakedFury nodes with water texture painted too
23:50 NakedFury outside of the water it will look weird
23:50 NekoGloop Just make coral a full node
23:50 bas080 .... that's not gonna look good. Am checking how leaves look underwater.
23:52 bas080 looks. ok. But the water texture to which you are facing is drawn :S
23:52 NekoGloop Ofc
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