Time Nick Message 00:00 OldCoder NekoGloop, it's probably one of the mods 00:00 NekoGloop once an hour? 00:00 OldCoder ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error running function 'on_step': ...mes/skyblock_game/mods/skyblock/api_achievements.lua:98: attempt to index local 'digger' (a nil value) 00:00 OldCoder I don't know yet 00:00 OldCoder We'll see 00:00 RealBadAngel who saw this movie? 00:00 NekoGloop cant be, it's been fine for a long time 00:00 OldCoder NekoGloop, It is auto-restarting now 00:00 OldCoder Crashed half an hour ago for example 00:00 OldCoder While I was away 00:01 OldCoder ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaE 00:01 OldCoder rror: error: ...mes/skyblock_game/mods/skyblock/api_achievements.lua:70: bad argument #1 to 'get_meta' (table expected, got nil) 00:01 OldCoder You're getting errors like these 00:01 OldCoder But if it restarts maybe it will be fine 00:02 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra6_6gOGK6E&feature=related my version: fnjiasvbcasdjkadfjklagndfjkabgvfjdkl;fjdks;agbidasodjklagbfjkdlabgjfk;agbjrkae;nbfane bl'rfnadigr;aenigrnaevbkl;f nadh;gbfid;hag fd;abjkadf;bn fjk;vadbfd;aubgr;eaobhf.... eh, close enough 00:02 OldCoder ? 00:02 NekoGloop the song 00:05 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, here you can check how polish can handle all that yaps shit and turn it into art 00:05 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO7NIkmw_V8 00:06 NekoGloop w.t.f. 00:06 NekoGloop i say: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahCgADqInX8&feature=relmfu 00:08 RealBadAngel i say: 00:08 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjWNC4cYCIM&feature=related 00:09 RealBadAngel opera way 00:10 RealBadAngel jammed? 00:11 VanessaE "Server shutting down"? 00:11 NekoGloop ? 00:11 NekoGloop yes the server shut down 00:11 VanessaE (skyblock) 00:11 NekoGloop it restarts automatically 00:11 VanessaE what crashed it this time? 00:11 NekoGloop i have no fucking clue 00:12 NekoGloop but i was placing a lot of nodes 00:12 VanessaE I was placing a bunch of desert sand 00:12 NekoGloop so was i 00:13 NekoGloop ok, THAT was my fault 00:13 Basstard` Please don't place desert sand. 00:13 NekoGloop damn dry shrub was in the way of my falling desert sand 00:13 VanessaE that's what I did yesterday to crash the server 00:13 VanessaE falling sand -> dry shrub entity gets buried -> crash 00:14 OldCoder NekoGloop, VanessaE I will analyze the logs 00:14 NekoGloop we need a /clearobjects 00:14 OldCoder And pass them on to the author 00:14 NekoGloop no wait its fine 00:14 NekoGloop bug in MT 00:14 VanessaE OldCoder: and this is a fairly old bug too 00:15 OldCoder VanessaE, Oh? Known issue? 00:15 OldCoder O.K. then 00:15 OldCoder Restart is working O.K. ? 00:15 VanessaE yup, known bug 00:15 OldCoder k 00:15 VanessaE but I don't think c55 really cares to fix it 00:15 VanessaE it's existed since 0.4.1-dev 00:15 VanessaE or earlier 00:15 OldCoder Maybe we can do it 00:15 OldCoder Eventually 00:15 RealBadAngel just found great version of "pirates of the carribean" made by that orchestra 00:15 OldCoder Same one as this morning then 00:16 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPGxQA6dy_4&feature=BFa&list=PL37FDAE5DC10073F0 00:16 RealBadAngel how do you find it? 00:23 NekoGloop meow 00:25 * OldCoder puts down a kitty treat 00:25 RealBadAngel woof 00:26 * NekoGloop grabs the treat ^w^ 00:26 RealBadAngel have you guys seen The Rock? 00:27 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD9gd25ySOA 00:27 * NekoGloop bites the treat ^w^ 00:28 RealBadAngel have you neko get softened with power of western music? :) 00:28 RealBadAngel no more manga? 00:29 NekoGloop manga ~= anime ~= vocaloid 00:30 RealBadAngel i guess youre explain 00:30 RealBadAngel so youre down 00:31 RealBadAngel or? 00:31 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znir_s4Q9BA&feature=g-vrec 00:32 RealBadAngel lets eat ur answer 00:35 NekoGloop "sequel" to the above: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOIxHLGWgQE&feature=relmfu 00:38 RealBadAngel reply to both of them: 00:38 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0LD2GnxmKU 00:38 RealBadAngel beat it 00:39 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPuvmAFlklA&feature=related 00:44 NekoGloop and if that isnt enough: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=lPjW_9KZo8M 00:47 RealBadAngel calm down with this 00:47 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U_5WneKKX8 00:48 NekoGloop aaaaaaaah!!! 00:49 NekoGloop it's beating on my eardrums! 00:49 RealBadAngel at least 00:49 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=co6gYkelPOY 00:51 Basstard` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_rBidCkJxo 00:51 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-WI3IHkf0E OPPAN SLENDER STLYE 00:52 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I want to put your music box online 00:52 OldCoder Shall I 00:52 OldCoder The MT one 00:52 RealBadAngel and you call it a beat? 00:52 RealBadAngel how dare you 00:52 NekoGloop a beat? 00:52 NekoGloop what? 00:52 RealBadAngel u pasted 00:52 NekoGloop i pasted slender style 00:52 NekoGloop :D 00:52 RealBadAngel sucks my socks 00:53 RealBadAngel oldcoder: sure 00:53 OldCoder k 00:53 OldCoder Post a ZIP somewhere sometime 00:53 OldCoder Gets its own server 00:53 RealBadAngel OldCoder, its also ur work 00:53 OldCoder Oh :-) 00:53 OldCoder Yes 00:53 OldCoder Fun 00:53 RealBadAngel hold on 00:54 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPUhjcqfeqw beat this 00:54 RealBadAngel http://realbadangel.pl/techic_mod/music/skaven_music_pack.zip 00:54 OldCoder RealBadAngel, If there is no readme could you paste some notes please? 00:54 OldCoder Downloading 00:55 OldCoder Notes would explain what this is, how to use it, novel aspects 00:55 OldCoder Even a few sentences 00:55 OldCoder You are writing for a museum and a live exhibition 00:55 VanessaE How do I make mossy cobblestone in skyblock? 00:55 NekoGloop junglegrass + cobble Vanessa 00:55 VanessaE ah 00:56 VanessaE interesting recipe. 00:56 RealBadAngel OldCoder, titles are in the forums 00:56 RealBadAngel neko:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVjeheaFfsM 00:56 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVjeheaFfsM 00:56 OldCoder Titles? 00:56 RealBadAngel eat this 00:56 OldCoder Oh 00:57 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I mean your MT music box 00:57 OldCoder That was you, right? 00:57 RealBadAngel sorry we got music battle here 00:57 RealBadAngel with neko 00:57 OldCoder k 00:57 OldCoder Another time 00:58 RealBadAngel yaps vs west culture 00:58 OldCoder k 00:58 RealBadAngel music pack link is in the forums 00:58 NekoGloop excuse me while i clean my eardrums out 00:59 RealBadAngel http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2538 00:59 RealBadAngel hehhe 00:59 RealBadAngel OldCoder, here you get it 00:59 OldCoder k 00:59 OldCoder Thx 01:01 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, somethin for chill out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7-q1WRaKNg 01:01 RealBadAngel old and cool 01:01 RealBadAngel VanessaE, dont ya think? 01:01 VanessaE not watching videos right now, got my own music going :-) 01:02 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaGmunWRAuM&feature=related Matryochka beats anything you throw at it 01:02 NekoGloop Matryoshka* 01:02 RealBadAngel press this one 01:02 RealBadAngel you wont be dissapointed 01:05 RealBadAngel but now, like really 01:05 VanessaE is there any way to "cultivate" jungle grass? It ain't spawning fast enough :-) 01:05 RealBadAngel i will post you somethin one guy sung in got talent in poland 01:06 NekoGloop VanessaE: no 01:06 RealBadAngel its cover of sting song 01:06 VanessaE damn 01:06 NekoGloop i have a shitload in one of my chests 01:06 RealBadAngel http://w188.wrzuta.pl/film/7U1SoBxbfQJ/kacper_sikora_-_desert_rose 01:06 NekoGloop it is unlocked, help yourself 01:06 RealBadAngel listen to this 01:06 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: untrusted link is untrusted 01:06 RealBadAngel hes amazing 01:06 VanessaE no way, I'm doin this on my own :-) 01:07 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: talk to the hand -_-_[] 01:07 RealBadAngel listen 01:07 NekoGloop (horrible smiley is horrible) 01:07 RealBadAngel then talk 01:07 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X82FrnpBxNY&feature=relmfu 01:07 NekoGloop much better 01:08 RealBadAngel hes singin arabic parts and Stings together 01:08 NekoGloop vocaloid and trap singer (woman who sings with male voice) 01:08 RealBadAngel and hes 20 01:09 Basstard` Are we there yet? 01:09 NekoGloop Basstard: no 01:10 NekoGloop fun fact: i can make my voice copy whomever i like 01:10 NekoGloop no idea how 01:14 OldCoder 01:14 OldCoder Landmine at large 01:14 OldCoder on my servers 01:14 OldCoder Batten down the hatches 01:14 OldCoder He is breaking the kids' Battle Server 01:14 OldCoder Skyblock is probably next 01:14 * OldCoder sighs 01:14 OldCoder I have backed up 01:14 VanessaE oh no 01:14 OldCoder I have backed up 01:15 VanessaE yeah but will backups prevent player death? 01:15 OldCoder I will ban subnet 01:15 OldCoder Probably 01:15 OldCoder I have done 01:15 OldCoder Full tree backup 01:15 OldCoder Everything 01:15 OldCoder I suppose I will ban subnets now 01:15 OldCoder Oh, well 01:15 OldCoder I had hoped to avoid this 01:15 OldCoder Maybe by hosting his creative server 01:15 OldCoder Should I go talk to him 01:15 OldCoder In that world? 01:16 OldCoder I suppose nobody wants to come with me 01:16 OldCoder I am going to 01:16 OldCoder World 30004 01:16 OldCoder If anybody wants to offer moral support 01:17 RealBadAngel im with ya 01:17 NakedFury start a whitelist 01:17 RealBadAngel kick the ass 01:17 OldCoder No point to kick ass 01:17 NekoGloop XD 01:17 OldCoder First step is ban by subnet 01:17 NekoGloop why would you kick a donkey? 01:17 OldCoder Next is whitelist 01:18 RealBadAngel why not 01:18 Basstard` Chew bubblegum instead. 01:18 RealBadAngel kick it hard 01:18 LAD ugg 01:18 RealBadAngel and what if he run out of bubble gum> 01:18 OldCoder Hang on 01:18 OldCoder Is he Craiger? 01:19 Basstard` He goes to the nearest store and busts a move. 01:19 RealBadAngel rip off greivers head left 01:19 RealBadAngel and shit down the neck 01:19 OldCoder Where are they? 01:20 OldCoder I need a way to display IPs 01:20 OldCoder Trying ifconfig 01:21 OldCoder I mean netstat 01:21 LAD oldcoder he know about all the server 01:21 OldCoder yes 01:21 LAD he dun 30003 01:21 NakedFury he just has to check the irc logs to find it 01:21 RealBadAngel ban all the subnets 01:21 LAD and hes working on this 1 so im shur he going to go for the others 01:22 LAD i would back um all up 01:22 RealBadAngel all 5.*.*.* 01:22 LAD no were leting him grie 01:22 LAD no 01:22 LAD wait yea 01:22 RealBadAngel all the shit 01:22 LAD from 30000-30004 01:22 OldCoder 01:22 OldCoder Well, I suppose we need to whitelist 01:22 OldCoder I will do a restore now 01:23 RealBadAngel thats better 01:23 OldCoder How do I disable new players temporarily 01:23 OldCoder Wait 01:23 OldCoder I know how to do that 01:23 OldCoder Secret password 01:23 OldCoder Shutting down servers to restore 01:23 OldCoder Then I will lock out new players temporarily 01:23 OldCoder That should do it 01:23 OldCoder Each new player 01:23 OldCoder Must be vetted 01:23 OldCoder Simple 01:23 LAD okl 01:23 OldCoder Hold on folks 01:23 VanessaE NOOOOOOOOOO 01:23 LAD i think u can reset the map 01:24 OldCoder VanessaE, ? 01:24 OldCoder Options? 01:24 LAD what happend VE 01:24 OldCoder Backup is only a few minutes old 01:24 VanessaE Oldcoder, when I sign back on, please teleport me back to my spawn, I'm falling down a column of water that won't let me swim back up 01:24 OldCoder O.K. 01:24 OldCoder Hold on 01:24 OldCoder Restoring first 01:24 OldCoder Then whitelist 01:24 VanessaE (bug in the water flowing code) 01:24 OldCoder it's fine 01:24 OldCoder wait 01:24 VanessaE ok, say when 01:24 LAD ok im weirdly being laggy 01:25 OldCoder Servers down for repairs 01:25 OldCoder Just a couple of minutes 01:25 LAD kk 01:26 OldCoder Restored and disabling new users 01:26 Basstard` Oh, I didn't know the Wikipedia article for Minetest has been deleted. 01:26 OldCoder Already? 01:26 OldCoder Screw that 01:26 OldCoder Does LM have any identities besides Craiger 01:26 LAD hh 01:27 LAD yea 01:27 LAD e sd Zero 1s 01:27 OldCoder Craig is toast 01:27 OldCoder He is Zero?? 01:27 LAD buhes aa prson 01:27 OldCoder ? 01:27 OldCoder Anybody but Craiger? 01:27 OldCoder Are there any other LM identities? 01:27 LAD zero is a real person srry my keybord is dieing 01:27 OldCoder k 01:27 OldCoder Fine 01:28 OldCoder VanessaE, wait 01:28 LAD hmm 01:28 OldCoder VanessaE, Will position 0,0,0 be all right? 01:28 LAD ok i think i fixed my keybord 01:28 OldCoder VanessaE, you will awaken at 0 0 0 01:28 LAD for some resopn it locks up wen theres numbr lock on 01:28 VanessaE as long as I don't die :-) 01:28 NekoGloop OldCoder: you put her over nothing 01:28 NekoGloop VanessaE: you will 01:28 OldCoder Where should she go? 01:29 OldCoder NekoGloop, I will put her on you 01:29 NekoGloop when you open the server, i will tell you 01:29 NekoGloop or that 01:29 OldCoder She is at you 01:29 NekoGloop i dont memorize skyblock coordinates 01:29 OldCoder Don't need to 01:29 LAD ikd Zero might be LM 01:29 OldCoder She is at you 01:29 OldCoder LAD Then Zero goes 01:29 LAD this is his fourms account 01:29 OldCoder om 01:29 LAD I am the God of Destruction..e_e..But I Like building too.. >:D 01:29 VanessaE is it safe to sign on? 01:29 OldCoder Fixing all this 01:29 OldCoder Not yet 01:29 OldCoder I am repairing 01:29 VanessaE ok 01:30 OldCoder And locking out 01:30 OldCoder Miners of Lands 01:30 OldCoder VanessaE, and teleporting you 01:30 OldCoder manually 01:30 VanessaE ok 01:30 OldCoder O.K. 01:30 NekoGloop when she comes back on she should be at her spawn anyway 01:30 OldCoder One more change 01:30 OldCoder If she is dead 01:30 OldCoder Hold on 01:30 NekoGloop skyblock likes to place players on their spawns 01:30 VanessaE my client crashed with Some Exception anyway 01:30 NekoGloop when they relog 01:30 VanessaE so maybe I'm lucky :-) 01:31 OldCoder Wait 01:31 VanessaE I mean when I said I was stuck - my client crashed while I was swimming, 01:31 VanessaE so I was alive when it exited 01:31 OldCoder We can fix anything 01:31 OldCoder om please 01:31 OldCoder Locking out LM subnett 01:31 OldCoder *t 01:31 OldCoder What set him off? 01:32 LAD hmm 01:32 LAD but wont he just make new names 01:32 NekoGloop are we even sure he is human? 01:32 NekoGloop he could be a complex bot 01:32 VanessaE LAD: ban by IP, so nick doesn't matter 01:32 OldCoder VanessaE, Do not engage 01:32 OldCoder No 01:32 OldCoder Let me handle this 01:32 LAD he has the VPM thing 01:32 OldCoder At OS level 01:32 * VanessaE does not engage. 01:32 OldCoder Almost ready to restart 01:33 LAD he was woundering y i was not banning him 01:33 OldCoder Do not ban 01:33 LAD i did not im not on 01:33 OldCoder Restarting 01:33 OldCoder k 01:34 OldCoder Wait 01:34 LAD what?? 01:34 * VanessaE 's finger hovers over "Enter" to start the game, waiting.... 01:34 OldCoder Almost forgot 01:34 OldCoder Sprinkle of magic 01:34 OldCoder Death Dust 01:34 LAD lol 01:35 * VanessaE checks her Encantus.. 01:35 VanessaE hm, those spells aren't here. 01:35 OldCoder om 01:35 OldCoder om 01:35 VanessaE you've had 20 moments already ;) 01:35 OldCoder Yeh yeH 01:36 OldCoder You want --lm? 01:36 VanessaE no way. 01:36 VanessaE do. not. want. 01:36 OldCoder Found it 01:38 OldCoder On 01:38 OldCoder See if you can enter 01:38 VanessaE nope. dead. 01:38 NekoGloop same here 01:38 OldCoder Cannot enter? 01:38 VanessaE doesn't even connect. 01:38 OldCoder Wait 01:38 OldCoder Wait 01:39 NekoGloop he's blocking your ports. seems he somehow closed them. 01:39 OldCoder No 01:39 OldCoder Me 01:39 OldCoder I will fix 01:39 NekoGloop oh 01:39 NekoGloop ok 01:39 NekoGloop I have to get out of this chair, so no more minetest for me 01:39 VanessaE aw :( 01:40 VanessaE he needs a laptop or someone needs to port minetest to ipad :-) 01:40 OldCoder om 01:40 LAD oh heeee 01:40 LAD hey 01:41 OldCoder Wait 01:41 LAD are chat wen keegnwent ad is n your sight 01:41 LAD mad 01:41 * VanessaE waits impatiently :-) 01:41 OldCoder Yes 01:41 OldCoder ?? 01:41 OldCoder LAD wait please 01:41 LAD ok 01:41 LAD i gtg to bed 01:41 OldCoder k 01:41 VanessaE night LAD. 01:41 OldCoder night 01:42 OldCoder VanessaE, try now 01:42 VanessaE connecting now. 01:42 LAD nightnight ppl that i sometimes and often speake with on the freenoide IRC chat 01:42 OldCoder LAD, k 01:42 LAD XD that was very spasific ok cya allz 01:43 OldCoder VanessaE, are you in? 01:43 VanessaE yes but I can't right-click on my spawn 01:43 OldCoder Hmm 01:43 OldCoder om 01:43 VanessaE wb Neko 01:43 OldCoder NekoGloop, can you connect? 01:44 NekoGloop Ipad 01:44 OldCoder VanessaE, let me teleport you 01:44 VanessaE there 01:44 VanessaE it works now 01:44 OldCoder O.K. 01:44 VanessaE it's fine OC 01:44 OldCoder 01:44 OldCoder Anybody new 01:44 OldCoder needs to speak with me 01:44 OldCoder or one of you 01:44 OldCoder Who wants the magic password? 01:44 VanessaE whitelisting eh? 01:44 OldCoder VanessaE ? 01:44 OldCoder yes 01:44 VanessaE no 01:44 OldCoder NekoGloop ? 01:45 NekoGloop Nope 01:45 OldCoder k 01:45 OldCoder Anybody else 01:45 OldCoder Needs to authenticate with me 01:45 OldCoder Or anybody else 01:45 OldCoder who wants the job 01:45 OldCoder I have also blocked 01:45 OldCoder the two main subnets 01:45 OldCoder Proceed at your leisure 01:45 OldCoder Report any damage 01:53 OldCoder So nobody wants the whitelist job? 01:58 Basstard` Do you have to be white? 02:01 OldCoder ?? 02:01 OldCoder No 02:09 khonkhortisan skyblock whitelist? 02:10 OldCoder khonkhortisan, Yes 02:10 OldCoder khonkhortisan, Do you need in? 02:10 OldCoder PM 02:36 OldCoder VanessaE, so the one world is working out 02:36 VanessaE yeah 02:36 VanessaE seems to be fine 02:36 OldCoder I see you in the logs 02:36 * VanessaE is re-laying her desert area 02:36 VanessaE figured I'd remodel my area :-) 02:36 OldCoder What actually happens now; we get about 3 new players? 02:36 OldCoder Go ahead 02:36 OldCoder I will back up again 02:36 OldCoder Whitelist will slow things down 02:37 OldCoder You and NekoGloop both said no 02:37 OldCoder What am I letting myself in for? 02:37 NekoGloop Meow...? 02:37 NekoGloop Random HL is random. Back to youtube 02:37 OldCoder ? 02:37 OldCoder Meow back 02:40 OldCoder 02:40 OldCoder I might as well announce this formally every few days 02:40 OldCoder There are six new MT servers with more coming. Access is whitelisted. See me. 02:40 OldCoder 03:13 hmmmm base_rock_level_2d - (5 + 5 + 5 + 5) get_mud_amount - (3) get_have_beach - (3) 3 * get_biome - (3) 2 * tree_amount_2d(4) for apple tree noise - noise2d_perlin(3) find_ground_level_from_noise(5 + 5 + 5 + 5) 03:13 hmmmm let's see here 03:13 hmmmm that's 20 + 3 + 3 + 9 + 8 + 3 + 20 rounds of perlin 03:14 VanessaE eesh 03:14 hmmmm err 03:14 VanessaE every one of those calls a new perlin noise calculation?? 03:14 hmmmm yes 03:14 VanessaE um 03:14 hmmmm actually it's way more than that 03:14 hmmmm i forgot 03:14 hmmmm 256 * 20 03:15 hmmmm that's per block 03:15 VanessaE shouldn't it, given what appears on the default mapgen, only need 3 or 4 layers of noise at most? 03:15 hmmmm a lot of the computation is being spent on stuff like making the mud amount or beach amount so complex 03:15 hmmmm but the worst offender is obviously base_rock_level_2d 03:16 hmmmm each of the 4 perlin noise calls have 5 octaves 03:16 hmmmm and that's per (x,z) 03:17 hmmmm with my version, it's going to vary based on lots of stuff, e.g. user input, current biome, what not 03:17 hmmmm it'll most likely be way better overall but 03:17 hmmmm one only needs to examine the surface of mapgen.cpp to see how inefficiently things are done 03:18 VanessaE c55 would probably agree, he knows it's slow 03:18 hmmmm he doesn't seem to care though 03:18 VanessaE but I guess wasn't certain what to do about it. 03:18 hmmmm i know that whatever i do, a lot of time is going to be spent on perlin noise generation 03:19 hmmmm i think i'm going to spend a lot more time on that 03:19 hmmmm the easeCurve optimization was so simple and it made such a huge difference but there's still a lot more that can be done, but it's higher hanging fruit 03:19 hmmmm the obvious next step is to SSE-ify this 03:19 hmmmm maybe AVX if i can get my hands on some AVX hardware (in theory it'd be twice as fast as the SSE version) 03:20 VanessaE well let's think about this a sec. 03:20 VanessaE perlin noise's whole point in here is to generate the land, right? 03:20 hmmmm it's to be random on a gradient 03:20 VanessaE yes 03:20 hmmmm anything that needs to be unpredictable yet have a pattern to it 03:21 hmmmm erm 03:21 hmmmm you know what i mean 03:21 VanessaE so shouldn't we just run a single noise function, then compare the output of that one run against the various other things e.g. where should be dirt, stone, sand, etc? 03:21 VanessaE then a second layer to generate the trees 03:21 VanessaE I mean maybe I'm oversimplifying this, 03:22 VanessaE but if I were writing a map generator, that's how I'd do it. 03:22 hmmmm you see the problem with that is all these things need to be different calls otherwise you'd have features coinciding exactly with eachother 03:22 VanessaE true 03:22 hmmmm because they'd have the same parameters 03:22 hmmmm each perlin noise call that needs to be different has a different seed 03:22 hmmmm for instance 03:22 hmmmm well not seed, seed offset 03:22 VanessaE right, 03:23 hmmmm so it's really not the same as the last perlin noise call 03:23 hmmmm so features aren't overlapped 03:23 VanessaE so use three or four layers, one for each of the things that's really obvious 03:23 hmmmm also 03:23 hmmmm each layer isn't just to determine something 03:23 VanessaE you hide enough of those things, the less obvious "always happens next to X" stuff suddenly seems like it isn't that way 03:23 hmmmm the number of octaves is how complex the pattern is 03:23 VanessaE fair 03:23 hmmmm so if you run only one octave per computation 03:23 hmmmm that's going to be a really plain looking map 03:23 hmmmm with just a couple blobs 03:24 VanessaE right 03:24 hmmmm and to be fair 03:24 VanessaE by "layers" I mean different seeds/offsets though 03:24 hmmmm perlin noise isn't too heavyweight on itself 03:24 hmmmm in itself 03:24 VanessaE however many octaves each gets wouldn't change appreciably I don't think. 03:24 hmmmm well wait 03:24 VanessaE right, but in this case it's being run hundreds of times per mapblock 03:25 hmmmm your idea might be doable 03:25 hmmmm the only problem is that we'd have to somehow come up with a continuous hash function...? 03:26 hmmmm i'd have to understand the math behind noise2d() 03:26 hmmmm that's the base call 03:26 VanessaE ok 03:27 hmmmm that was something else i was going to do before SSE/AVX optimizing, i was about to try to simplify the math behind the noise functions 03:27 VanessaE from here it gets too complex for me to understand without knowing the code overall, but maybe I gave you an idea :-) 03:27 hmmmm maybe i can eliminate some interpolation calls 03:28 NakedFury what about lua-ing all of that process? 03:28 VanessaE FUCK no 03:28 NekoGloop Are you crazy? 03:29 VanessaE Lua is too slow for a map generator (see also, Nether mod) 03:29 hmmmm maybe he just doesn't know what we're talking about 03:29 hmmmm oh yes, nether is a biome type in my mapgen, heh 03:29 VanessaE if anything, a few hooks to tell the mapgen what to put where, but the hard stuff has to be in C++ 03:29 hmmmm along with aether 03:29 VanessaE there was an Aether mod too? 03:30 NekoGloop No 03:30 VanessaE didn't think so 03:30 VanessaE anyway 03:30 NekoGloop He's custom-ing mapgen 03:30 NakedFury I meant for biomes 03:30 hmmmm those are in a special group that need to be put in a special area though 03:31 hmmmm nakedfury, that really can be done 03:31 hmmmm but you wouldn't be able to do anything special aside from specify perlin noise parameters and the block types 03:31 NekoGloop Snow mod does this incredibly successfully 03:31 hmmmm snow mod? 03:31 NekoGloop Yes 03:32 NekoGloop By sapier i think 03:33 hmmmm well whatever 03:33 hmmmm here are the biome types http://pastebin.com/gfNxUtcZ 03:33 hmmmm the last three aren't types but rather flags 03:34 hmmmm as in, they're attributes that can be combined with any of the above 03:34 hmmmm so you can have snow caps with BT_EXTREMEHILLS | BTF_SNOW 03:34 NakedFury gbeach? 03:34 hmmmm gravel beach 03:34 hmmmm hh 03:34 hmmmm also i need to talk about that 03:34 NakedFury extreme mountains? valleys? 03:34 hmmmm sand beach and gravel beach are in the same biome group 03:35 hmmmm based on another perlin noise mapping it's going to decide the temperature of the area 03:35 hmmmm and if it's cold enough a beach will be gravel instead of sand 03:35 hmmmm or something 03:35 hmmmm idfk 03:35 NakedFury temperature, that is nice 03:36 hmmmm biome groups can only appear adjacent to eachother 03:36 hmmmm for example 03:36 hmmmm the ocean biome group is right next to the beach biome group 03:36 hmmmm so that means a beach can only be next to an ocean 03:36 hmmmm so the first perlin noise function determines which group the biome is in 03:37 T_A_N_K is there a guy by the name of "Mito551" in here right now? 03:37 hmmmm then the temperature function gets the temperature 03:37 hmmmm which determines which biome in the biome group to choose 03:37 hmmmm each biome will have its own ground generating function 03:39 NakedFury would the underground area receive biomes too or would that not fall on this reworking you are doing? 03:39 NekoGloop Nether biome; therefore yes 03:39 hmmmm err 03:39 hmmmm you see 03:39 hmmmm i haven't figured that part out yet 03:39 NakedFury nether falls into a hell type 03:40 NekoGloop I'm assuming we can make the nether biome not be a nether if we like? 03:40 hmmmm sure 03:40 hmmmm you see, that's the thing 03:40 hmmmm i think Minecraft has a separate place not on the map coordinates for nether and stuff 03:40 hmmmm am i right or no? 03:40 NakedFury yes 03:40 hmmmm which WE can't do 03:41 hmmmm unless you want to rewrite the entire engine pretty much 03:41 hmmmm so they have the advantage of being able to calculate the biome for only (x, z), while we'd have to do (x, y, z) if we wanted height to factor into biome 03:41 hmmmm of course 03:42 hmmmm unless i hard code logic in for extreme heights (e.g. <= -10000 is nether) 03:42 hmmmm well that's doable, nobody's going to mine straight into the nether, right? 03:42 NekoGloop Well, we will, but it will be insanely difiicult 03:43 NekoGloop We would need one hell of a lot of mese picks 03:43 hmmmm the same can also be done with aether 03:43 NekoGloop Yup 03:43 hmmmm except i'd have to change some liquid flow logic 03:43 hmmmm and death from falls 03:43 NekoGloop Not neccessarilly 03:44 hmmmm if liquid spills off the edge of the aether then it'd fall onto regular land 03:44 NekoGloop Make the aether generate low-ish 03:44 NekoGloop That way we have floating islands 03:44 NekoGloop Which would be AWESOME 03:44 hmmmm well 03:44 hmmmm it's supposed to be another dimension 03:44 hmmmm besides, you'd be able to modify that by changing a single number if you actually wanted to 03:45 hmmmm i guess that could be a setting 03:45 NakedFury well you have lots of spaces for both type of biomes 03:46 hmmmm the setting thing isn't robust enough 03:46 hmmmm i mean look 03:46 hmmmm this is supposed to be extensible 03:46 hmmmm so every time people add in a new "portal" biome they're going to have to add a new setting to the configuration? nonsense 03:46 hmmmm height at which it occurs will be a knob when a biome is being defined 03:47 NekoGloop You could make it easier to add new biomes 03:47 hmmmm well i made it really easy 03:47 NakedFury ^ was gonna ask that 03:47 hmmmm i mean it can't be done in Lua 03:47 hmmmm but that doesn't make it "hard" 03:47 NakedFury ohhh 03:47 NakedFury sad face 03:47 hmmmm all you'd need to do is add in a couple lines and then recompile 03:47 hmmmm i'd keep it very well documented 03:47 NekoGloop Recompile? 03:47 hmmmm yea 03:48 NekoGloop I've never done this "compile" thing 03:48 hmmmm oh... uh oh 03:48 hmmmm what if there was a public service for this sort of thing 03:48 NekoGloop Make one. 03:48 NekoGloop :3 03:49 hmmmm you make changes to minetest, upload the project, and then it'll compile it for you and post the result 03:49 hmmmm and this would be on a website 03:49 hmmmm this way you wouldn't need to have an entire development environment 03:50 hmmmm but really you only have that problem where you need to "set everything up" on windows because it comes with no environment at all by default 03:50 NekoGloop Notepad++ 03:51 NakedFury https://github.com/ExtrabiomesXL/ExtrabiomesXL/wiki/List-of-Biomes 03:51 NakedFury lots of terrain types 03:52 hmmmm WOW, that's pretty awesome, why didn't i see this before 03:52 NekoGloop My. God. 03:52 NakedFury it also has seasonal terrains like the autumn woods 03:52 NekoGloop Must. Have. MC1.3.2. Version. 03:53 hmmmm oh, that's for minecraft 03:53 hmmmm 'was gonna say 03:53 NekoGloop Noooooooooo! 03:53 NakedFury yes but I meant to show all the biomes 03:53 NekoGloop It needs mcforge 03:53 NekoGloop I cant install mcforge in demo version 03:54 NakedFury how would different tree types work? 03:54 hmmmm setColor();? 03:54 hmmmm https://github.com/ExtrabiomesXL/ExtrabiomesXL/blob/master/extrabiomes/src/extrabiomes/biomes/BiomeBirchForest.java what is setColor()? 03:54 NekoGloop Uh... 03:54 NekoGloop No idea 03:55 hmmmm if this is a lighting color bias that does what i think it does 03:55 hmmmm hm 03:55 NekoGloop Course i know about nil about java 03:55 NakedFury possibly to change leaf colors or grass? 03:55 hmmmm this has a lot more to do with minecraft's internals than it does java 03:57 hmmmm you know, i always admired for how complex minecraft is, how neat it is 03:57 hmmmm i'd say it's professionally done 03:57 hmmmm compared to minecraft, minetest is a ghetto 03:58 VanessaE haha 03:58 VanessaE I dare you to put that on the dev wiki ;) 03:59 hmmmm apparently BiomeGenOcean calls setColor(0x70) 03:59 hmmmm what part of the ocean in minecraft has a color of 0x000070? 04:00 VanessaE dunno, never played it 04:00 NekoGloop What color is that! 04:00 hmmmm really dark blue 04:01 NekoGloop The farther down you get, the darker it is 04:01 NekoGloop So i'd say, about 70 blocks below surface? 04:01 hmmmm any results on google for '"setColor" minecraft' are either Doxygen generated documentation with nothing useful at all, or 'modding tutorials' that seem to copy paste code from that 04:01 hmmmm no, that's obviously a color code 04:02 NekoGloop No you asked what part of the ocean had that color 04:02 NekoGloop So i answered 04:02 hmmmm it's more like black at that depth lol 04:03 NekoGloop Ok maybe not exactly 04:03 NekoGloop But close to it 04:05 hmmmm apparently it's the "land color" 04:05 hmmmm it can't exactly be that 04:05 hmmmm maybe it's an alpha blend of that color 04:06 VanessaE unless, 04:06 VanessaE 0x70 means 0x00000070 04:06 VanessaE an extra pair of 0's, making the 70 an alpha setting. 04:06 cornernote hi 04:06 NekoGloop It does 04:06 hmmmm what would a block of grass look like if it were placed in an ocean biome on the surface of the ocean 04:06 VanessaE cornernote: skyblock is epic :-) 04:06 cornernote i got spirals working in worldedit - http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=44578#p44578 04:06 hmmmm i don't have minecraft so i can't try it out 04:07 NekoGloop Get demo version 04:07 cornernote VanessaE, awesome! im glad you like it 04:07 VanessaE hmmmm: I would assume, if it didn't sink, it would just stay on top and look like a normal block of grass? 04:07 hmmmm vanessae, i say no 04:07 NekoGloop 1) doesnt sink 04:07 hmmmm i bet it'll have a blue hue to it 04:07 NekoGloop 2) i think he's right 04:07 hmmmm if my hypothesis is right 04:07 VanessaE possibly 04:07 hmmmm someone, care to test it? 04:08 hmmmm if anyone has minecraft here 04:08 hmmmm lol 04:08 NekoGloop Get the demo version you lazy ass :3 04:08 hmmmm i mean there's definite value in knowing, because we can do it too 04:08 hmmmm this requires a modern client though. 04:08 hmmmm like 1.8 or newer 04:08 NekoGloop Demo version is 1.3.2 04:08 hmmmm yea, too old 04:08 NekoGloop No 04:09 NekoGloop 1.8 means ALPHA1.8 04:09 hmmmm ocean became a biome in 1.8 04:09 hmmmm even then, i can't play it 04:09 NekoGloop 1.3.2 is RELEASE1.3.2 04:09 hmmmm doesn't run for me because LWJGL is broken on my platform 04:09 NekoGloop Get a fucking os then 04:10 hmmmm but anyway 04:10 NakedFury could it be possible to also have different world generation options? example: islands, archipelago, supercontinents, continents, etc 04:10 NekoGloop Prolly 04:10 hmmmm oh nakedfury, that was the original goal of my modification 04:10 hmmmm presets for those sorts of things 04:10 T_A_N_K is there even a sound table for placing nodes? 04:10 NakedFury if you have played Civilizations games you would understand 04:10 NakedFury ohh ok 04:11 hmmmm you'll love it, i guarantee 04:11 hmmmm it's going to have all the stuff you'd want 04:11 T_A_N_K i see there is table.dig = table.dig, what about table.place = table.place? 04:12 hmmmm so anyway 04:12 hmmmm if we could just change the lighting for each biome then it'd give a way better atmosphere 04:12 hmmmm and we'd be able to get rid of desert sand and desert stone 04:13 hmmmm they could be regular sand and stone, with the lighting added 04:13 NakedFury and color 04:13 VanessaE nnnoooooo 04:13 hmmmm yeah, colored lighting 04:13 VanessaE keep desert sand/stone 04:13 VanessaE they're usefukl 04:13 VanessaE -k 04:13 hmmmm mm 04:13 hmmmm erm 04:13 hmmmm okay 04:13 hmmmm i meant that as an example 04:14 VanessaE heh, guess I jumped in wrong again ;) 04:15 * VanessaE goes back to playing the game. 05:04 OldCoder cornernote, hello 05:24 OldCoder Calinou, Hi 05:24 Calinou hi 05:27 OldCoder Calinou, PM 05:28 Calinou seen it 05:28 Calinou you only said "hi" 05:28 OldCoder Yes 05:28 OldCoder That was to open PM 05:28 OldCoder Unless you wish me to explain here 05:28 Calinou /query 8) 05:28 OldCoder Which sort of defeats the purpose of PM 05:28 OldCoder That does not work for me 05:28 Calinou ah 05:30 OldCoder I gather you will not respond 05:30 OldCoder As you wish 05:30 Calinou no? 05:31 Calinou just ask in PM, it is fine. 05:31 OldCoder For me to see the window 05:31 OldCoder Respond to my PM if you wish 07:52 OldCoder Stopping servers for maintanence 07:52 VanessaE noooooooooo 07:52 OldCoder Sorry 07:52 OldCoder LM issue 07:52 OldCoder Back very shortly 07:52 OldCoder I thought you would be asleep 07:52 VanessaE ok go ahead 07:52 OldCoder it is very late 07:52 OldCoder Not long 07:52 VanessaE (sure hope I didn't lose a lot of progress there. 07:52 OldCoder Probably not 07:53 OldCoder It is a SIGTERM 07:53 OldCoder Does MT handle SIGTERM well? 07:53 VanessaE usually. 07:53 OldCoder A minute or two then 07:56 VanessaE when it's back I'll check and see where I stand, and then I need to head to bed. 07:56 OldCoder k 07:56 OldCoder Very shortly 07:56 OldCoder thx 07:56 OldCoder Everybody looks registered 07:56 OldCoder Let me add one line to .conf 07:57 OldCoder Dropping interact from default_privs 07:57 mika_r oldcoder, what type of servers are you running? 07:57 OldCoder I will show you 07:57 OldCoder Six of them 07:58 OldCoder In a minute 07:58 OldCoder Finishing 07:59 OldCoder One moment 07:59 OldCoder Backing up 07:59 OldCoder As our friend may return 07:59 OldCoder VanessaE, Try it 07:59 OldCoder mika_r, Link coming up 07:59 OldCoder 07:59 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/ 07:59 OldCoder mika_r, A link for you ^ 07:59 OldCoder 08:00 VanessaE ok, trying 08:01 VanessaE Looks clean, OC. 08:01 VanessaE nothing lost from the restart. 08:02 OldCoder Good 08:02 VanessaE and I can build. 08:02 OldCoder Default privileges are now just fast and shout for Skyblock 08:02 OldCoder Good night 08:02 VanessaE wait, 08:02 OldCoder I have done what is possible 08:02 VanessaE strike that 08:02 OldCoder Yes? 08:02 VanessaE I did lose a little progress 08:02 VanessaE but no materials were lost 08:02 OldCoder but not much I hope 08:02 OldCoder I will see if you are AFK next time 08:02 VanessaE naw, just a couple dozen wood ended up back in my inventory 08:02 OldCoder k 08:02 OldCoder Good night 08:02 VanessaE looks good. 08:02 VanessaE good night 08:03 OldCoder Updating my page now 08:03 mika_r thanks oldcoder 08:03 VanessaE (/me finishes what she started real quick) 08:03 OldCoder mika_r, Sure 08:03 OldCoder 08:03 OldCoder mika_r, these are whitelisted 08:03 OldCoder PM me for access 08:06 mika_r oldcoder, not sure if i'll yet join 08:06 OldCoder No rush 08:06 OldCoder I am new to this 08:06 OldCoder People asked for servers 08:07 OldCoder So I provided some 08:07 mika_r name says other, how new are they? 08:07 OldCoder Regrettably griefing was not far behind 08:07 OldCoder Name? I am very old 08:07 mika_r ok 08:07 OldCoder The worlds are three days old but some of the maps go back a year or two 08:07 OldCoder Skyblock is coming along very nicely 08:07 OldCoder It is supposed to be a puzzle world but they are building 08:08 OldCoder So I will run a second copy for puzzles only 08:08 mika_r were there any buildings older than 3 days? 08:08 OldCoder Yes 08:08 OldCoder One year 08:08 OldCoder Old maps 08:08 OldCoder New clones 08:08 VanessaE OldCoder: you can't really do skyblock without building normally 08:08 OldCoder VanessaE, I mean... 08:08 OldCoder VanessaE, I will run copies so that newcomers can try starting fresh 08:08 OldCoder The more the merrier 08:08 VanessaE the game makes you, for example, build structures out of 100 wood here, 200 cobble there, 200 stone into a tower, etc. 08:08 OldCoder Like the maze world 08:09 OldCoder Yes 08:09 VanessaE oh ok 08:09 OldCoder Exactly 08:09 OldCoder Your world will last 08:09 OldCoder Forever if I can arrange it 08:09 OldCoder Even after MT upgrades 08:09 OldCoder I will maintain copies 08:09 OldCoder <--- Does not believe artwork should be lost 08:09 OldCoder 08:12 VanessaE good :) 08:13 VanessaE ok, time for me to bug out 08:13 VanessaE bed calls 08:13 OldCoder Night 08:27 OldCoder mika_r, To give you the idea: I will now clone this world if possible: 08:27 OldCoder http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3066 08:27 OldCoder 08:28 mika_r you mean you copy an existing world to your server? 08:28 OldCoder Yes 08:28 mika_r why? 08:29 OldCoder mika_r, To give it a home if it does not have one. I have been asked to do this a number of times. 08:29 mika_r you mean cpr to an unused map? 08:29 OldCoder What is the word cpr? 08:29 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Hello 08:29 RealBadAngel hi 08:29 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I have reset the griefed worlds 08:30 OldCoder RealBadAngel, The worlds are whitelisted now 08:30 OldCoder Indicate the ones you need access to 08:30 mika_r Cardiopulmonary resuscitation 08:30 OldCoder mika_r, Yes 08:30 RealBadAngel technic and skyblock 08:30 mika_r wake them back from dead 08:30 OldCoder RealBadAngel, technic is not a world; is that your music box? 08:30 OldCoder mika_r, Yes 08:30 RealBadAngel 0 08:30 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I will add it 08:30 OldCoder Falling asleep soon now 08:31 OldCoder RealBadAngel, You should have access to every world you had access to before 08:31 RealBadAngel i just woke up lol 08:31 OldCoder Indicate if any don't work 08:31 RealBadAngel ok, thx 08:31 mika_r oldcoder ill check the 30 000 08:31 OldCoder mika_r, O.K. PM 08:31 mika_r no but i'm confused 08:32 OldCoder mika_r, Join me in PM 08:32 OldCoder mika_r, I will be here for a few minutes 08:59 OldCoder 08:59 OldCoder I am now running seven worlds 08:59 OldCoder Details will be posted on my site 08:59 OldCoder 09:11 cornernote are there any texture makers here that would like to contribute a few textures ? 09:18 VanessaE well so much for that idea. 09:18 VanessaE can't sleep yet. 09:26 OldCoder VanessaE, not asleep? 09:26 VanessaE nope. 09:26 VanessaE can't. 09:27 OldCoder VanessaE, stopping for 60 seconds to back up latest fileset 09:32 OldCoder VanessaE, took longer but done now 09:32 VanessaE i'll get back on later, in the mood to read now. :-) 09:32 OldCoder Good 09:33 OldCoder VanessaE, before I go can you comment on these mods: carts, dicormod, panes, snow, throwing, workers 09:33 OldCoder Stable, high depends, conflicts, etc.? 09:33 VanessaE mm 09:34 VanessaE I don't know much about dicor, carts is kinda buggy as I recall, panes is okay (use xpanes), snow seems to be fairly highly rated, throwing and workers I'm not sure of 09:45 OldCoder k 09:45 OldCoder One question 09:45 OldCoder panes is okay (use xpanes) 09:45 OldCoder Explain. Can I simply drop in xpanes and remove panes? 09:45 VanessaE um 09:45 VanessaE not sure if one can "replace" the other like that 09:46 OldCoder So when you say use xpanes what do you mean? 09:46 VanessaE but the two are equivalent in function, xpanes is generally the preferred one now as it uses nodeboxes. 09:46 OldCoder If a world designer used panes 09:46 OldCoder Then I cannot substitute xpanes 09:46 VanessaE panes is Jordach's old mod, xpanes I think is by thexyz 09:46 OldCoder Correct? 09:46 VanessaE that is probably correct, but I have never tested it 09:46 OldCoder k 09:53 thexyz xpanes is better 09:53 OldCoder yes 09:53 VanessaE you would say that :D 09:54 VanessaE (plus it's supported by HDX ;) ) 09:54 thexyz VanessaE: it's just better no matter who made it 09:54 VanessaE yup 09:54 VanessaE considering how panes is implemented, xpanes is definitely better. 09:54 OldCoder dicormod is just a textures folder 09:55 OldCoder Where would I put it? 09:55 VanessaE you sure about that? 09:55 OldCoder http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=508 09:55 OldCoder Comment 09:55 * VanessaE checkjs.. 09:55 VanessaE hm, the page for that mod implies that it contains code also 09:56 OldCoder See 4 yourself 09:56 VanessaE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=508 09:56 OldCoder Yes 09:56 OldCoder I linked same page above 09:56 OldCoder Zzzz 09:56 VanessaE however, 09:56 OldCoder oh so tired 09:56 VanessaE those "dye" textures look like the ones from minecraft. confusing. 09:57 VanessaE ok 09:57 VanessaE I just extracted 09:57 VanessaE there is an init.lua. 09:57 VanessaE http://minetest.at.ua/dicormod.rar 09:59 VanessaE however it doesn't create a proper containing folder on extract 10:00 VanessaE oh G*d 10:00 VanessaE it uses the oOOOOOOOLLLLLLLDDDDD wool mod 10:01 VanessaE nix. 10:01 VanessaE toss it. 10:01 VanessaE (it relies on rats for the "hair", which don't exist) 10:09 mika_r oldcoder, carts are buggy 10:10 VanessaE I think he went to sleep 10:10 mika_r ok, isn't it morning soon there? 10:10 VanessaE it's 6:10am here 10:11 mika_r ok 10:11 mika_r have you been up all night now? 10:11 VanessaE yes. 10:11 VanessaE :-/ 10:12 mika_r i slept a few hours but been up for 7h today already, how time flies, thought i just had my morning coffee 10:16 tripod yeah 10:16 tripod i have one coffee and im buzzed for like 12 hours, not knowing were time decided to go 10:16 tripod where* 10:21 mika_r vanessaE, what would be proper wall material to go with the red roof from home decor? 10:21 VanessaE mmm... 10:22 VanessaE probably sandstone 10:22 mika_r so i thought, just wondering what else is there, made a asphalt roof on my cactus tile 10:22 VanessaE the alternate recipes working okay for you? 10:23 VanessaE I wasn't 100% sure if they were well-balanced enough 10:24 mika_r got lots of dirt, but the coal is a little expensive to throw out as dye. found some recipe today that coal would be possible to make out of tree but didnt work 10:24 VanessaE that hasn't worked for ages 10:25 VanessaE c55 took that out months ago 10:25 VanessaE as for coal, after a while you'll find it's quite easy to end up with a surplus of it 10:25 cornernote go looking for mese, you'll come back with a lot of coal 10:25 mika_r bought from ade a stack 10:26 VanessaE yup 10:26 mika_r i've scattered my torches in the mine and glow glass 10:26 VanessaE and a lot of steel 10:27 mika_r coal and steel are pretty easy to find but i look for moreores, normally just end up with cobble and gravel 10:35 VanessaE and down goes Skyblock again :-) 10:35 mika_r down? 10:35 VanessaE (accidentally buried a cobble under falling snad) 10:35 VanessaE (sand) 10:46 mika_r houston we have a problem 10:47 VanessaE ? 10:47 mika_r i may have the solution in my hand, 2min 10:48 VanessaE what's wrong? 10:48 mika_r terracotta 10:49 VanessaE bake dirt in an oven. 10:49 mika_r that i know, i'm uploading a pic 10:49 mika_r http://aijaa.com/84geAy 10:50 VanessaE looks right to me 10:50 mika_r yes, but wool is too bright underneath and desert stone too dark, lucky i found desert sand 10:50 VanessaE mmmm.... 10:51 VanessaE try orange wool 10:51 mika_r oh, forgot that 10:52 mika_r desert sand is better 10:53 mika_r textures on wool and bricks are too bright 10:54 mika_r the cactus tile house looks goods at night with a few torches lighting, but the sun makes it too bright 10:59 VanessaE cool 11:20 mika_r now the roof is ready, works great with sandstone 11:34 VanessaE ok, I completed all the way through the end of level 2... what's next? 11:34 VanessaE (skyblock) 11:48 * VanessaE looks at the level 3 marker.. 11:48 VanessaE oh my. 12:10 NekoGloop Meow. 12:10 VanessaE Meow. 12:12 NekoGloop What's up? 12:12 VanessaE not much, just working on level 3 in skyblock now 12:14 NekoGloop My envy > 9000 12:14 NekoGloop D: 12:14 NekoGloop I not in level 3 :( 12:14 VanessaE I seem to be stuck 12:14 NekoGloop Hm? 12:14 VanessaE "place 30 fences around your gardens" 12:15 NekoGloop Ah... 12:15 VanessaE I've just done 50+ and no achievement. 12:15 NekoGloop And xfences collides 12:15 VanessaE I figured that was the case. 12:15 VanessaE dammit. 12:15 NekoGloop At least we can get to level 3 12:16 VanessaE Nu? So sign on and look at what I've built so far :-) 12:17 VanessaE cornernote: you awake? 12:17 NekoGloop Maybe later 12:18 VanessaE :( 12:18 NekoGloop :P 12:19 VanessaE how many levels are there anyway 12:19 NekoGloop 3 12:19 VanessaE oh ok 12:19 VanessaE because the end of level 3 says something about smelting 500 (!) stone (!!) 12:20 VanessaE for "your next project..." 12:21 NekoGloop It's just to give you a reason to get more stone 12:21 VanessaE heh 12:45 NekoGloop Freakin bugs everywhere ;_; 12:51 VanessaE Well that's it. 12:52 VanessaE Level 3 completed except for the fences and the 500 stone. 12:53 NekoGloop Heh 12:53 VanessaE does it have to be stone or does he mean cobble? 12:53 NekoGloop Hm? 12:53 VanessaE the 500. 12:53 NekoGloop Should be dig 500 stone 12:53 VanessaE eek. 12:54 NekoGloop Stone generator :P 12:54 VanessaE well of course 12:54 VanessaE but stone digs to cobble, so it has to be smelted back to stone 12:56 NekoGloop No 12:56 NekoGloop It is dig 500 stone, correct? 12:56 NekoGloop Not smelt? 12:56 VanessaE it says "dig 500..".... 12:56 VanessaE oh. 12:56 * VanessaE <--- STUPID! 12:56 NekoGloop Hehe 12:57 NekoGloop BAKA* 12:57 NekoGloop :3 13:01 VanessaE there. 500 stone done. 13:01 VanessaE all that's left is the fences. 13:02 NekoGloop Get oldcoder to /give VanessaE default:fencs 13:02 NekoGloop Actually, i have worldedit priv 13:02 VanessaE no need, I'll just get cornernote to fix the bug, I'm sure OC will pull down the fix. 13:02 NekoGloop Lol 13:06 VanessaE when Neko returns, someone tell him I had to head off to an appointment, and not to do anything to my areas in Skyblock because I wanna play it "right". 13:06 VanessaE bbl 13:52 Mikeonline hi 13:58 Mikeonline is there a public mod repo on github or does every mod need its own repo? 13:59 FreeFull Most mods have their own repos afaik 14:12 NekoGloop Meow. 14:13 FreeFull Hi NekoGloop 14:13 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUQ1TH0MDUk&feature=related 14:20 Mikeonline why github not sourceforge? 14:21 NekoGloop because github is cake 14:22 Mikeonline github requires realname.. very lame :D 14:22 NekoGloop I put Gloop Master as my realname XD 14:23 Mikeonline violator :D 14:23 NekoGloop :D 14:29 NekoGloop hello pilzadam 14:29 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 14:29 NekoGloop :3 14:40 NekoGloop leaves are such good fuel that they make the furnace not realise it has fuel 14:42 RealBadAngel hi folks 14:42 RealBadAngel whats up? 14:42 NekoGloop skyblock 14:42 NekoGloop it's WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY up :3 14:43 RealBadAngel hehe 14:43 RealBadAngel loggin in 14:44 PilzAdam hi RealBadAngel 14:44 RealBadAngel hi pilz 14:45 PilzAdam adam and not pilz 14:46 RealBadAngel shortcut sorry 14:46 RealBadAngel i shall press tab to autocomplete and i missed it 14:46 RealBadAngel right hand with enter was faster 14:51 OldCoder it's WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY up :3 14:51 * OldCoder assumes this is good 14:51 NekoGloop lol 14:51 NekoGloop i meant "sky"block 14:52 RealBadAngel network code is totally fucked up 14:52 RealBadAngel i feel like i were tryin to play from mars at least 14:52 RealBadAngel 30s lags 14:53 RealBadAngel before i could play on US servers 14:53 RealBadAngel now its impossible just 14:53 RealBadAngel after those rollback feature i think 14:54 RealBadAngel i CAN see nodes i put dissapear 14:54 RealBadAngel and appear again in order i put them 14:54 RealBadAngel 15-20s after i did that 14:54 RealBadAngel lua entities are impossible to control 14:55 RealBadAngel all the network code is worth a shit 14:56 RealBadAngel and im not tellin that because somethin i shall do to repair 14:56 RealBadAngel those who fucked it up shall repair it 14:57 NekoGloop you seem to think it easy to make network code for a game like minetest 14:57 RealBadAngel no 14:57 RealBadAngel i havent said that 14:57 NekoGloop was not "fucked up" by anyone 14:57 RealBadAngel i said it was playable already 14:58 NekoGloop was never good to start with 14:58 RealBadAngel some1 made it "better" 14:58 RealBadAngel and made it unplayable 14:58 RealBadAngel so? fucked it up 14:58 RealBadAngel 2+2=4 14:58 RealBadAngel theres no fuzzy logic 14:59 RealBadAngel and im not a kid to watch my words. 14:59 RealBadAngel period 15:01 RealBadAngel well, im not any good with networkin code 15:02 RealBadAngel never did that 15:03 RealBadAngel i would just love to use it, we all spendin a lot of time to make this game better 15:03 RealBadAngel and keep fallin down because of basics 15:03 RealBadAngel wb PilzAdam, this time tab pressed ;) 15:04 PilzAdam yay tab! 15:08 RealBadAngel i guess rollin back feature is just wrong 15:08 RealBadAngel takes too much time and resources 15:09 RealBadAngel i said once how it should be done to avoid ANY problems 15:09 RealBadAngel client shall send kinda passport each time he wants to do somethin 15:10 RealBadAngel priviledges 15:10 RealBadAngel servers then shall check the passport on each action just 15:10 Jordach wielditemmodeleditor no work on windows xp 15:10 NekoGloop course not 15:10 NekoGloop now get on skyblock :D 15:11 Jordach NekoGloop, i can smash add box all day and nothing happends 15:11 RealBadAngel this way all the hacked clients will stop workin 15:11 PilzAdam hi Jordach 15:11 RealBadAngel no matter client will try to do, if passport is wrong: get the fuck out of here. ban. period. 15:12 RealBadAngel just one byte extra per each action could do that 15:12 Jordach PilzAdam, i wanna make some nodeboxes and the PoS WIM won't even work (i use the included .dlls) 15:13 PilzAdam use linux 15:13 PilzAdam ;-) 15:13 Jordach i DO 15:13 Jordach just that homework needs windows 15:16 Mikeonline first preview alpha released: https://github.com/codeandfix/node_ownership 15:17 Jordach Mikeonline, just saw the forums post :D 15:19 * Mikeonline slaps Jordach 15:20 * Jordach slaps Mikeonline with a fat walrus 15:21 * NekoGloop slaps #minetest with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngj9bXui9EQ&feature=related 15:22 * Jordach does not click link 15:22 * Jordach kickbans NekoGloop 15:22 Jordach 15:22 NekoGloop XD 15:23 PilzAdam yay fight fight FIGHT!!! 15:23 PilzAdam :-D 15:23 * PilzAdam is the little devil from Jordach 15:23 Mikeonline does anyone except redcrab use node_ownership? 15:23 PilzAdam most epic song ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASj81daun5Q 15:23 PilzAdam hi Calinou 15:23 PilzAdam you ;-) 15:23 Mikeonline hi pilz 15:23 Calinou hi 15:23 Calinou inb4 my server is down 15:23 Calinou PilzAdam: did you fix the farming wet farmland texture issue? 15:23 Calinou the bottom should use dirt texture, not wet farmland side 15:23 PilzAdam why? 15:24 Jordach Calinou; youre a modder, DO. IT. YOURSELF. 15:24 Calinou I know 15:24 PilzAdam i. dont. want. it. 15:24 Jordach +1 15:24 Calinou PilzAdam: texture packs; not every single texture pack darkens the whole texture 15:24 Calinou it's just irrealistic :P 15:24 NekoGloop all faces of wet farmland should be wet 15:24 PilzAdam +1 15:25 Jordach like a woman 15:25 Jordach :S 15:25 Calinou lol 15:25 NekoGloop XD 15:25 Calinou locked_furnace made my server crash 15:25 Calinou crontab doesn't even work 15:25 Calinou <_< 15:26 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=44610#p44610 15:26 Calinou SERIOUSLY. 15:27 OldCoder Jordach, Hi. I reset your world because a Miner of Lands griefed it. Everything is whitelisted now. 15:27 Jordach aye 15:27 Jordach Miner of Lands = LandMine 15:28 OldCoder If you speak the name it may be grepped. Moving on... 15:28 Jordach and no 15:28 OldCoder ? 15:28 OldCoder Go on 15:28 Jordach you cant hack privs 15:28 OldCoder The worlds are whitelisted and interact is removed 15:28 Jordach its theoretically impossible 15:28 OldCoder I am not following. I am tired. Let us move on. 15:28 NekoGloop you can make the client act as singleplayer 15:29 OldCoder There is little to discuss. May I ask people to comment on dicormod? 15:29 Jordach NekoGloop - actually, it runs a server instance on 30011 15:29 OldCoder It appears to be just a set of PNG files plus a subdirectory with more PNGs. 15:29 NekoGloop i know 15:29 OldCoder Who has 30011? 15:29 OldCoder Oh 15:29 Jordach if the world is made and a admin is chosen, then singleplayer mod cant do shit 15:29 OldCoder VanessaE was puzzled. What is dicormod and how is it installed? 15:32 OldCoder 15:33 OldCoder Nobody knows dicormod? 15:34 RealBadAngel dicormod? 15:34 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I am adding another world... 15:34 RealBadAngel maybe homedecor? 15:34 OldCoder One moment 15:34 OldCoder You misunderstand 15:34 OldCoder One moment 15:34 OldCoder no need, I'll just get cornernote to fix the bug, I'm sure OC will pull down the fix. 15:34 OldCoder Indicate when to do so 15:35 OldCoder http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=508 15:35 OldCoder RealBadAngel, ^ 15:35 OldCoder How is that installed? 15:35 OldCoder There is no code 15:35 OldCoder VanessaE thought there would be code 15:35 RealBadAngel as amy other mod 15:35 RealBadAngel *any 15:36 RealBadAngel its just init.lua and textures folder 15:36 RealBadAngel so as any other mod simply 15:41 OldCoder RealBadAngel, what link did you use? 15:41 OldCoder RealBadAngel, The one I have is just PNG files 15:41 RealBadAngel a sec 15:41 RealBadAngel http://minetest.at.ua/dicormod.rar 15:42 OldCoder om 15:42 OldCoder I have that one 15:42 RealBadAngel rar is the problem? 15:42 OldCoder Probably 15:42 OldCoder om 15:42 RealBadAngel repack it for ya? 15:42 OldCoder No 15:42 OldCoder I unpacked it on my distro 15:43 OldCoder That worked when Ubuntu didn't 15:43 OldCoder ty 15:43 Calinou .rar 15:43 Calinou *laughs* 15:43 OldCoder yes 15:43 OldCoder Rarrrr 15:43 RealBadAngel lol 15:44 Calinou if you want good compression, use .bz2... 15:44 Calinou <_< 15:44 Calinou or .xz 15:44 OldCoder Or .txz 15:44 RealBadAngel what do you want guys, its cool format 15:44 OldCoder >_> 15:44 Calinou .txz == .xz :p 15:44 Calinou RealBadAngel: proprietary 15:44 * OldCoder shrugsz 15:44 Calinou you need proprietary stuff to unpack/pack it 15:44 RealBadAngel so what 15:44 Calinou better use free formats when they're available and do the same fucking things 15:44 Calinou anyway, I prefer lossless to lossy, thus I use zip for everything. 15:44 NekoGloop or .zip 15:44 Calinou plus, winblows natively supports it, winblows users don't whine 15:45 NekoGloop anyone who runs windows should get winrar for god's sake 15:45 RealBadAngel windows lusers whine at almost everuthin 15:45 Calinou NekoGloop: winrar is terrible, use 7-zip 15:45 Calinou supports about 10 formats in unpacking, 5 in packing 15:45 OldCoder Portable version 15:45 Calinou and is opensource 15:45 NekoGloop 7-zip's interface looks like shit 15:45 Calinou and 32 AND 64 bit 15:45 RealBadAngel im not using any of them 15:45 Calinou it's decent, 7-zip is lightweight too 15:45 Calinou very quick to open 15:46 RealBadAngel i use plugings for total commander 15:46 NekoGloop as is winrar 15:46 OldCoder Is snow a good mod for the default set? 15:46 NekoGloop yes oldcoder 15:46 OldCoder k 15:46 RealBadAngel so any shitty format is just a directory for me 15:47 Calinou OldCoder: if not slow as hell (== made in C++..) 15:47 OldCoder Calinou, snow is slow? 15:47 OldCoder Never mind then 15:47 OldCoder Wait 15:47 Calinou if you mod C++ mapgen on a server, clients will see it just fine 15:47 RealBadAngel start of a poem? 15:47 RealBadAngel lol 15:47 Calinou since the nodes are defined in lua 15:47 OldCoder Hmm 15:47 OldCoder So no snow slow below 15:48 RealBadAngel poem gets longer... 15:48 OldCoder No. Is snow slow? 15:48 * RealBadAngel waits for it to grow 15:48 OldCoder Hmm 15:48 OldCoder Nah. Busy. 15:48 RealBadAngel cmon 15:48 * OldCoder is tempted 15:48 OldCoder Let me be exempted 15:49 NekoGloop snow isnt slow 15:49 OldCoder Not well ATM and cannot blow about snow 15:49 OldCoder Oh 15:49 OldCoder Snow not slow 15:49 RealBadAngel rotfl 15:49 OldCoder To the worlds we will tow 15:49 OldCoder Snow 15:49 RealBadAngel with the snow 15:49 RealBadAngel slowly of course 15:49 OldCoder The lonely snow 15:51 RealBadAngel if minetest.env:find_nodes_near(pos,radius,"snow")== lonely then make it fall 15:52 RealBadAngel ooops forgot an "end" ;) 15:52 NekoGloop if shits_given == nil then shits_given = nil end 15:52 PilzAdam if minetest then aweseom() end 15:53 OldCoder Hmm 15:53 OldCoder Do I need a patch? 15:53 OldCoder oh 15:53 NekoGloop patch to what? 15:53 OldCoder nvm 15:53 OldCoder But snow is not slow; is this so? 15:53 NekoGloop yes 15:53 RealBadAngel just show me the way... to the next whiskey bar... 15:53 RealBadAngel and dont ask why... 15:53 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzIIX3bvARc&feature=related 15:54 NekoGloop duet by one person 15:54 NekoGloop :D 15:54 OldCoder So no reason not to include dicormod in standard set either 15:56 Calinou and fuck. server crash 15:56 OldCoder Do panes and xpanes* conflict? 15:57 Calinou yes 15:57 Calinou xpanes > panes by far 15:57 OldCoder Calinou, I wish to boot a world that uses panes. I will patch it. Any suggestions? 15:58 RealBadAngel btw, offtopic, i just saw 20yrs old girl in the show X-factor in poland 15:58 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddoFUVE0RhQ&feature=relmfu 15:58 Calinou OldCoder: use aliases/ABMs 15:58 OldCoder Calinou, Elaborate? 15:58 RealBadAngel shes amazing 15:58 Calinou > remove panes mod 15:58 OldCoder Yes 15:58 Calinou RealBadAngel: OVER THAN 18?????? OK!!! 15:58 OldCoder And ? 15:58 RealBadAngel i wasnt jokin, listen 15:58 Calinou minetest.register.alias("panes:pane", "xpanes:pane") 15:58 Calinou in xpanes mod, put that 15:58 RealBadAngel shes fuckin amazing 15:58 OldCoder Calinou, In init.lua? 15:58 Calinou yes 15:58 OldCoder k 15:59 Calinou although you will have to remove and replace em I think :/ 16:01 OldCoder Calinou, remove and replace what? 16:02 Calinou the panes 16:02 OldCoder Ah 16:02 OldCoder nvm 16:02 OldCoder No time for that 16:02 OldCoder If anybody wants the following world, edit it: 16:02 OldCoder http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3066 16:03 OldCoder So I cannot simply patch the mod? 16:03 OldCoder Calinou, ^ 16:03 Calinou OldCoder: you'll have to use ABMs then 16:04 OldCoder O.K. 16:04 OldCoder What are those? 16:04 Calinou based on xfences code: 16:04 Calinou put this in xpanes mod, at end: 16:04 OldCoder End of init.lua 16:05 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/1228708/ 16:05 OldCoder Reviewing 16:05 OldCoder Calinou, ty 16:05 Calinou np 16:05 OldCoder Shouldn't this be part of the standard mod? 16:08 RealBadAngel thats a joke. of the engine 16:08 Calinou OldCoder: no 16:08 OldCoder k 16:09 OldCoder Curious 16:09 OldCoder Why not? 16:09 RealBadAngel when i started to die in a never ending series, i left the game for half an hour 16:09 RealBadAngel reloged then and guess what 16:09 RealBadAngel i keep dyin all the time 16:09 RealBadAngel no one dare please that is not FUCKED UP 16:10 RealBadAngel its a mess 16:10 RealBadAngel big fuckin mess 16:10 OldCoder To repeat a question, is there any reason not to add dicormod to the default set? 16:10 Wyvrn How do you bind a key with a cmd? 16:11 Wyvrn eg. teleport 16:11 RealBadAngel it makes online gaming impossible 16:11 OldCoder I have three mods to go for a world: Carts, throwing, workers. Anybody care to comment on stable, depends, slow for those? 16:11 RealBadAngel am i the only one who is experiencin that shit??? 16:12 Calinou Wyvrn: you cannot 16:12 Calinou if you want, make a patch. :3 16:12 Wyvrn oh 16:12 Calinou OldCoder: throwing is ok in speed, stable 16:12 Calinou workers sometimes crashes 16:13 Calinou carts is slow 16:13 OldCoder Last two go into a specific world then 16:13 Wyvrn is it possible to bind an action to key? such as setpos? 16:13 RealBadAngel throwing will suffer the same. lua entities mechanism 16:13 OldCoder Calinou, My world system allows use of default or alternate worlds 16:13 Calinou Wyvrn: no 16:13 RealBadAngel its unusable when it comes to online gaming 16:13 Wyvrn oh 16:14 Wyvrn thanks anyway 16:14 RealBadAngel any delays fucks up the gameplay 16:14 OldCoder RealBadAngel, we will find you a fast server 16:14 OldCoder Huh. Bows and arrows. You can shoot things. 16:14 RealBadAngel yeah 16:14 OldCoder All right 16:14 RealBadAngel you shoot 16:15 RealBadAngel and wait 10s for arrow to appear 16:15 OldCoder Slow? 16:15 Calinou RealBadAngel: it appears instantly... 16:15 RealBadAngel no 16:15 PilzAdam yes 16:15 RealBadAngel wanna bet? 16:15 NekoGloop yes it does 16:15 OldCoder I am adding bows and arrows 16:15 RealBadAngel i will set up a server 16:15 OldCoder You can settle this with a duel 16:15 PilzAdam NekoGloop has no vote right 16:15 OldCoder :-) 16:15 RealBadAngel with 300ms delay 16:15 NekoGloop Pilz: i was agreeing with you 16:16 RealBadAngel then you will wait 10s for an arrow to appear 16:16 RealBadAngel i have same with laser 16:16 NekoGloop then fix it 16:16 NekoGloop by getting a computer 16:17 RealBadAngel i can hear sound, have ores, stone collected 16:17 NekoGloop with more than 1byte for processing 16:17 OldCoder frogcrush, wb 16:17 RealBadAngel and after 10 second i can see laser beam 16:17 OldCoder Wait 16:17 OldCoder You can settle this later 16:17 OldCoder New mods coming 16:18 RealBadAngel all because somethin some1 added between 0.4.1 and 0.4.3 to the network code 16:18 RealBadAngel and sent all the sync to hell 16:18 OldCoder No reason not to add dicormod? 16:19 RealBadAngel when are you playin on a server with about 100ms delay all is ok 16:19 RealBadAngel if the delay is bigger 16:19 RealBadAngel game goes nuts 16:20 RealBadAngel coconuts even 16:20 Jordach sigh 16:20 OldCoder Which of these is O.K. for Skyblock: dicormod, snow, throwing, xpanes 16:21 Jordach xpanes and dicormod 16:21 OldCoder k 16:21 Jordach you dont want expert pvp snipers 16:21 Jordach esp. with itemdrops 16:21 OldCoder Jordach, NekoGloop doesn't want itemdrops 16:21 OldCoder VanessaE does 16:21 Jordach VanessaE - i want words 16:22 RealBadAngel i do like item drops 16:22 OldCoder Why doesn't NekoGloop want them? 16:22 NekoGloop uhm, hello? 16:22 Jordach because he dies often 16:22 RealBadAngel hes gloopish, thats why ;) 16:22 NekoGloop digging in skyblock 16:22 NekoGloop digging in skyblock 16:22 NekoGloop you lose all the dirt 16:22 OldCoder Settle this now pleasae 16:22 OldCoder *please 16:22 RealBadAngel hehhee 16:22 NakedFury item drop in skyblock would be hard 16:23 RealBadAngel yup 16:23 RealBadAngel gameplay will be better 16:23 RealBadAngel harder 16:23 NakedFury extremely harder 16:23 RealBadAngel yes yes and YES 16:23 Jordach OldCoder, can you delete my player file from 30000 16:23 Jordach i cant login 16:23 RealBadAngel and that geeks likes at most 16:24 Jordach (in fact im getting invalid password on everything) 16:24 RealBadAngel easy come easy go 16:24 NekoGloop i dont want easy 16:24 OldCoder Jordach, Yes 16:24 NekoGloop i want possible 16:24 OldCoder Jordach, PM 16:24 RealBadAngel hard earned stay 16:25 RealBadAngel and brings joy 16:25 Calinou that's what she said 16:26 RealBadAngel makin things easy will not attract players 16:26 RealBadAngel they have to feel they made something 16:26 RealBadAngel hard way 16:26 NekoGloop if you want impossible, do it in singleplayer 16:26 RealBadAngel look at the games you played 16:27 Calinou you dont want expert pvp snipers 16:27 Calinou haha, I can imagine throwing with skyblock, lol 16:27 RealBadAngel what do you expect from games? 16:27 RealBadAngel easiness? point and click? 16:27 NekoGloop a challenge 16:27 RealBadAngel exactly 16:27 NekoGloop but this challenge needs to be feasible 16:27 RealBadAngel yup 16:27 RealBadAngel so just think 16:27 NekoGloop I dont want to sit there for hours while on level 1 16:28 tripod who feels like mumble 16:28 tripod I DOES 16:28 RealBadAngel before you break somethin make sure it wont just fall down 16:28 RealBadAngel THINK for christ sake 16:29 RealBadAngel anythin that came easy, is worh shit 16:29 NekoGloop item_drop doesnt give it to you in a manner that you can do that 16:29 NekoGloop the item just falls 16:29 NekoGloop nothing you can do about it 16:29 RealBadAngel of course it does 16:30 RealBadAngel make a layer below first 16:30 NekoGloop impossible until you have water 16:30 NekoGloop but then what am i supposed to do about people who want impossible 16:30 NekoGloop not my descision for people to be stupid 16:31 RealBadAngel thats planning 16:31 RealBadAngel i can break the layer when i made one below 16:31 RealBadAngel and decided to go below 16:32 Wyvrn how do you make a mod pause/sleep/wait for a duration? 16:32 NekoGloop and i suppose you also want items to burn in lava 16:32 NekoGloop or flow with liquids 16:32 RealBadAngel youre tryin to prove ive played minecraft before or what? 16:33 NekoGloop i know you have 16:33 NekoGloop and so have i 16:33 NekoGloop i prefer mt 16:33 NekoGloop because mc is shit 16:33 RealBadAngel so do i 16:33 OldCoder carts won't slow things down if they're not used, right? 16:33 RealBadAngel its not shit 16:33 NekoGloop and those damn skeletons need to stfu 16:33 FreeFull Shift-click is all I want 16:33 OldCoder Wait... were they the crashy mod/ 16:33 OldCoder ? 16:33 FreeFull Also for the chest bug to get fixed, if it hasn't already 16:33 * FreeFull test 16:33 Mikeonline Jordach: i added a detailed usage description to svn :P 16:34 FreeFull Ok, it's been fixed 16:35 RealBadAngel we are takin some minecraft shit and implementin them here because they are logical 16:35 OldCoder You guys are getting a bunch of new mods 16:35 RealBadAngel not because mc is great or shit 16:36 FreeFull I really just want faster transfer from chest to inventory and vice vers 16:36 * PilzAdam too 16:36 NakedFury and furnace. the game sorts of reloads the furnace screen when you place stuff 16:37 NekoGloop because hacky_node_swap 16:37 PilzAdam NekoGloop, no, thats wrong 16:37 NekoGloop for furnace it's the problem 16:37 PilzAdam furnace problem = chest problem 16:37 FreeFull The left click thing? 16:38 NekoGloop the thing nakedfury said 16:38 NekoGloop not what you're saying 16:38 NekoGloop lrn2read 16:38 PilzAdam and only furnace uses hacky_swap_node 16:38 FreeFull Where it briefly displays something about left click instead of the furnace screen 16:38 NekoGloop NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 16:38 NekoGloop YOU IDIOTS 16:38 OldCoder ? 16:38 NekoGloop LISTEN TO WHAT I'M SAYING 16:38 PilzAdam ? 16:39 NekoGloop hacky_node_swap IS WHY THE FURNACE SCREEN RELOADS 16:39 NekoGloop BECAUSE OF SWAP TO ACTIVE FURNACE 16:39 FreeFull And why are you shouting about this? 16:39 NekoGloop because you idiots are incapable of understanding simple english 16:40 OldCoder While I am at it: Does anybody have more favorite mods that are: stable low depends non-crashy fast? 16:40 PilzAdam NekoGloop, dont understanding english and dont agree to what you say are different things 16:41 NekoGloop you fucking idiot 16:41 PilzAdam please, chill 16:41 NekoGloop forget about the chest problem 16:41 NekoGloop do you not understand english? 16:41 RealBadAngel neko.... 16:41 T_A_N_K this dwarfes game mode is unfathomobly good 16:41 RealBadAngel shut up and dance 16:41 FreeFull NekoGloop: I think PilzAdam was talking about the problem where items disappear, not where the furnace screen reloads 16:41 PilzAdam hi T_A_N_K 16:42 FreeFull Maybe 16:42 T_A_N_K good day pilzadam 16:42 RealBadAngel hacky_swap_node just preserves meta 16:42 NekoGloop AND NAKEDFURY SAID SOMETHING ELSE 16:42 NekoGloop NOW FUCKING READ WHAT HE SAID 16:42 Jordach NekoGloop, i've rubbed your rage before, CHILL. 16:42 PilzAdam let him say what he want 16:42 NekoGloop " and furnace. the game sorts of reloads the furnace screen when you place stuff" 16:42 RealBadAngel so you both shut up 16:42 Jordach @ALL IN #MINETEST - CHILL. 16:42 MiJyn Jordach, +1 16:42 NekoGloop now do you fucking understand what i was saying? 16:43 MiJyn NekoGlooop, I do not effing understand what you say, but I do "understand" 16:43 Jordach yes, we know. (no sarcasm.) 16:43 Jordach ive seen the reload my self 16:43 PilzAdam NekoGloop, i understand you, but its not the problem i am talking about 16:43 NekoGloop PilzAdam: but i wasnt originally talking to you 16:44 PilzAdam i was talkig to FreeFull 16:44 NekoGloop and i was talking to NakedFury 16:45 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEk0bamXv6k 16:45 RealBadAngel for chill out 16:45 PilzAdam :-) 16:45 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=aUQ1TH0MDUk 16:45 RealBadAngel wont click 16:46 NekoGloop because you are an idiot 16:46 RealBadAngel its manga 110% 16:46 NekoGloop like the rest of #minetest 16:46 OldCoder Folks I am shutting down my servers for about 5 minutes to add new mods and a new world 16:46 PilzAdam NekoGloop is in the rest of minetest 16:46 OldCoder save your work please 16:46 NekoGloop manga ~= anime ~= vocaloid ~= nico nico douga 16:46 RealBadAngel stupid me 16:46 RealBadAngel clicked 16:46 T_A_N_K bb 16:47 RealBadAngel shall wrote 120% 16:47 PilzAdam haha 16:48 OldCoder Muadtralk, hi 16:49 Jordach SUP sdzen 16:50 OldCoder Don't join 16:50 OldCoder Crash 16:50 OldCoder One moment 16:51 OldCoder skyblock_game/mods/dicormod/init.lua: 16:51 OldCoder ERROR[main]: .../minetest/games/skyblock_game/mods/ 16:51 OldCoder dicormod/init.lua:262: attempt to index global 'default' (a nil value) 16:51 OldCoder Do no dicormod? Any comments? 16:51 OldCoder *So 16:52 NekoGloop it needs a depends.txt with default in it 16:52 OldCoder k 16:52 OldCoder om 16:52 OldCoder Old! ? 16:53 NekoGloop ? 16:53 * VanessaE peeks in 16:53 VanessaE hi all. 16:53 Calinou hi VanessaE 16:53 OldCoder VanessaE, hi 16:53 PilzAdam hi VanessaE 16:53 jordach VanessaE, y u likw item drop 16:53 VanessaE well as a major change of subject, my husband is officially no longer full of shit ;) 16:54 jordach HA! 16:54 VanessaE jordach: because hundreds of fallen leaves entities = ten thousand clicks to clean up after felling 10 trees. 16:54 VanessaE I just want the magnetic pick-up function 16:54 Calinou your husband is a hundred of falling leaves? 16:54 Calinou :P 16:54 jordach VanessaE, my old server used that 16:54 VanessaE not the drop-on-dig function 16:55 jordach no, the leaves dropped default:leaves 16:55 VanessaE Calinou: heh, no. :-) 16:55 jordach VanessaE, is he empty? 16:55 VanessaE jordach: yup. colonoscopy. 16:55 VanessaE ANYway 16:55 VanessaE that was supposed to be a one-liner joke. 16:55 jordach i quite like the full of shit gag 16:55 VanessaE put the magnetic pickup part of item_drop in and be done with it :-) 16:57 jordach ahh.. 16:57 PilzAdam jordach, wheres your capital "J"? 16:58 jordach my pc random rebooted after a cpu overload 16:58 MiJyn PilzAdam, he's even in the top-secret MT channel 17:01 NakedFury jordach: because hundreds of fallen leaves entities = ten thousand clicks to clean up after felling 10 trees== It is actually 70+ leafs per tree in skyblock 17:01 NakedFury it is too much 17:01 VanessaE yes 17:01 VanessaE ten trees * 70 leaves per = 700 leaves. That's "hundreds". 17:01 NakedFury should be lowered to a normal amount 17:01 VanessaE ten thousand was an exaggeration :-) 17:02 NakedFury yes its to exagerated 17:02 NakedFury if the tree has 10 leafs then you get 10 leafs 17:02 mika_r vanessaE, sometimes lag causes to click several times 17:06 OldCoder New world coming in a few minutes 17:17 OldCoder 17:17 OldCoder http://oldcoder.org/general/minetest/ 17:17 OldCoder New mods and a new world! Enjoy. I am hosting seven MT worlds now. 17:17 OldCoder 17:17 OldCoder Zzz 17:17 * OldCoder is resting 17:18 jordach OldCoder now holds the record for most servers ran at once 17:19 NekoGloop how do i make it so that leafdecay has a chance of dropping the leaves themselves, but not always? 17:19 NekoGloop or, rather, how do i get a random number from a range? 17:21 NekoGloop ... well fine then 17:21 jordach PilzAdam, whats the package name for the qt libs 17:21 MiJyn jordach, libqt4-dev 17:21 MiJyn ? 17:21 MiJyn libqt4-gui 17:21 MiJyn that should do it 17:21 NekoGloop can noone tell me how to do this? 17:22 VanessaE I'd tell you but I just don't remember. 17:22 VanessaE ironzorg's old flowers mod uses it though, maybe look through that? 17:22 MiJyn NekoGloop, cat /dev/urandom | od 17:22 NekoGloop .... 17:22 NekoGloop ni lua 17:22 NekoGloop in* 17:23 PilzAdam anyone knows what this does in minetest.conf: #desynchronize_mapblock_texture_animation 17:23 jordach the animations dont play in sync 17:23 jordach simple 17:23 VanessaE PilzAdam: animated textures normally all show the same frame regardless of where the animated object is in the map 17:23 jordach ^ that 17:23 VanessaE allowing desync takes less CPU as I recall. 17:24 VanessaE it allows each mapblock to show animations from a different frame offset 17:24 NekoGloop also, now there is a channel called #desynchronize_mapblock_texture_animation 17:24 jordach NekoGloop, thats a comment for the minetest.conf 17:24 NekoGloop i know 17:25 jordach nyan! 17:25 NekoGloop anyway, can someone tell me how to do a random number from a range? 17:25 * VanessaE steals jordach's nyancat 17:25 NekoGloop PilzAdam, maybe? 17:25 Calinou NekoGloop: hashtag! 17:25 Calinou NekoGloop: math.random 17:25 MiJyn NekoGloop, I think it's something with minetest.PseudoRandom 17:25 NekoGloop from a RANGE 17:25 * jordach plays in creative mode 17:26 Calinou range = between x and y? 17:26 NekoGloop not an entirely fucking random number 17:26 NekoGloop yes 17:26 NekoGloop i want to specify x and y 17:26 Calinou math.random(1,222) 17:26 MiJyn NekoGloop, you could do: (math.random() % y) + x 17:26 Calinou random between 1 and 22 17:26 Calinou 222* 17:26 Calinou integer as always 17:26 Calinou MiJyn: this is not cubescript 8) 17:26 MiJyn Calinou, it's still valid 17:27 Calinou I know 17:27 VanessaE MiJyn's method resembles how I used to do random numbers in BASIC 17:27 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOIxHLGWgQE 17:27 Calinou in cubescript, you must do that, you can only specify max range, which does not include the number itself (eg: rnd 5 = between 0 and 4) :P 17:27 Lumpio- in b4 "that makes for bad random numbers" 17:28 Calinou Lumpio-: YAY, RMS WILL HATE US IF WE DO THAT. 17:28 Calinou we'll have to use GPG keys for randomness 17:28 Calinou spam the shift keys 17:28 MiJyn Calinou, you don't like RMS? 17:28 VanessaE Calinou: c64 BASIC does that. RND(1)*range+lowest 17:28 Calinou MiJyn: lol, no. 17:28 Calinou usable linux all the way 17:29 MiJyn VanessaE, using RND(x)%range+lowest is better (% is for the remainder) 17:29 NakedFury how rare to see mijyn here 17:29 VanessaE MiJyn: in that particular BASIC dialect, there's no modulus operator 17:29 jordach does anyone know how to compile sapiers WIM on Ubuntu? 17:29 VanessaE or remainder 17:29 MiJyn VanessaE, oh 17:29 MiJyn NakedFury lol 17:29 Calinou jordach: install Qt dev libs, compile? :P 17:30 jordach fails 17:30 Calinou reason? paste errors 17:30 VanessaE of course that dialect returns floats, so INT(RND(1)*range)+lowest is closer to what Lua does 17:30 MiJyn jordach, just qt4-dev-tools 17:30 FreeFull MiJyn: % isn't good unless the range is a power of two 17:30 MiJyn FreeFull, really? 17:32 FreeFull I think RND(x)/(maxrnd/range) + lowest might or might not be better 17:33 FreeFull Possibly not 17:33 MiJyn v = RND(x); lowest + v - (INT(v / range) * range) 17:34 MiJyn :P 17:34 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOIxHLGWgQE&feature=relmfu 17:34 NekoGloop oh wait its the same one as before 17:34 NekoGloop carry on 17:35 MiJyn NekoGloop, what's with your obsession with Manga/Anime? 17:35 Calinou so this happened on #minecraftforums @ espernet: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1228873/ 17:35 NekoGloop not manga/anime per say 17:35 Lumpio- But that's vocaloid stuff 17:35 NekoGloop I like the music 17:35 NekoGloop I dont care too much for the video itself 17:35 Lumpio- As are all the other links I've seen posted here. 17:35 NekoGloop Lumpio-: agreed 17:35 NekoGloop but these idiots dont know the difference 17:36 Lumpio- Yeah, everything Japanese = ANIME SHIT 17:36 NekoGloop actually, I've posted some nico nico douga stuff as well 17:36 MiJyn :P 17:36 Calinou everything japanese = OPENARENA 17:36 NekoGloop like zebra and hashiyan matryoshka 17:36 Calinou put everything japanese, plus penguins, in OA 17:36 MiJyn Everything Japanese = K! 17:36 MiJyn (Fujitsu K) 17:37 Lumpio- oh, I probably wasn't around for that 17:37 MiJyn Lumpio- I think it started in 2010 17:37 Lumpio- What did? 17:38 NekoGloop and now i lost all that i just coded 17:38 Lumpio- Save early, save often 17:38 NekoGloop apparently notepad++ doesnt want me making a new gamemode 17:38 VanessaE NekoGloop: so you're saying it's derpy? ;) 17:39 jordach http://paste.ubuntu.com/1228881/ - any clue? 17:39 Lumpio- ...the directory "release" doesn't exist? 17:39 jordach sapiers WIM 17:39 jordach http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3162 17:40 Calinou +1 for ubuntu pastebin : 17:40 VanessaE jordach: answer your msg you schmuck :-) 17:40 Calinou :P 17:40 Calinou maybe sapier will reply 17:40 MiJyn -1 for not using pastebin.com 17:40 jordach lolPastebin 17:40 NekoGloop http://pastebin.com/KCmHYXCy found this in the minetest_game\default\init.lua 17:40 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, hacky_swap_node example : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qPBPt2IGy4 17:41 NekoGloop why is inventory_image set twice... 17:41 Calinou MiJyn: pastebin.com is terrible 17:41 Calinou ads, slow loading, captchas 17:41 MiJyn Calinou, that's why I love it! 17:41 NekoGloop it's only confusing the code more than it needs to 17:41 Calinou lol 17:42 MiJyn doesn't everyone love ads? 17:42 jordach AdBlock 17:42 VanessaE yeah, as much as we love dental work and nails on chalkboard :-) 17:43 thexyz catblock 17:43 Calinou thexyz: +1 17:43 Calinou inb4 MiJyn +1s catblock 17:43 jordach -1 17:43 NekoGloop VanessaE: http://pastebin.com/KCmHYXCy does this make ANY sense at all? 17:43 Calinou catblock is still available if you use linux... but you must donate if you use any other os, iirc 17:43 Calinou looks like 17:43 MiJyn Calinou, I'd NEVER do that! :P 17:43 VanessaE NekoGloop: why are there two inventory_image lines? 17:43 NekoGloop exactly 17:43 jordach thats in the default game 17:44 VanessaE weird. 17:44 thexyz NekoGloop: fill bugreport 17:44 NekoGloop too lazy 17:44 jordach https://github.com/sapier/wim 17:44 jordach anyone? 17:44 NekoGloop windows precompile and i'll bite 17:44 VanessaE catblock? "Pastry Kitty" :-) 17:45 NekoGloop Meow~? 17:45 jordach nyan 17:45 jordach NekoGloop, there is windows builds 17:45 jordach look on the forum# 17:45 jordach :D 17:46 thexyz jordach: why don't just make plugin for blender? 17:46 NekoGloop because not everyone has blenders 17:46 NekoGloop noone wants smoothies :3 17:46 * VanessaE loves a good smoothie 17:47 MiJyn thexyz, I made that :D 17:48 MiJyn but, of course, it's not public yet 17:48 jordach *smells troll* 17:48 NekoGloop who else wants a book you can write in? 17:48 Calinou thexyz: yeah, but nodeboxes are limited, so that's not really possible 17:48 MiJyn jordach, ? 17:49 MiJyn Calinou, then how did I make it? 17:49 Mikeonline is there a command to reload mods only or restart the server? 17:49 VanessaE NekoGloop: +1 17:49 jordach nope. 17:49 Calinou MiJyn: what when you rotate cubes when you try to export? 17:49 MiJyn Calinou, rotation is not supported yet 17:50 thexyz Calinou: don't use anything except cubes in blender then 17:50 thexyz i've already written simple export script 17:50 MiJyn thexyz, spheres are supported 17:51 VanessaE bbl 17:52 thexyz MiJyn: what? i thought minetest doesn't support spheres 17:52 NekoGloop blender does 17:52 NekoGloop not mt 17:52 MiJyn thexyz, I know. It just changes a sphere into cubes 17:52 thexyz that's just wrong then 17:53 MiJyn well, what? Ignore sphere support? 17:53 thexyz yes 17:53 MiJyn nah 17:53 MiJyn I added it 17:53 MiJyn I'm not going to remove it 17:53 MiJyn people just don't have to use spheres 17:54 thexyz then "brave yourself, stupid mods with >1k nodeboxes are coming" 17:54 MiJyn *brace 17:54 MiJyn yep 17:54 thexyz oops, yes 17:54 MiJyn they go ahead 17:55 MiJyn (but you can also change the detail level, so you can have smaller spheres) 17:55 MiJyn I still have to add cone support 17:55 MiJyn that will be harder :/ 17:56 thexyz c55 will hate you ^^ 17:56 NekoGloop minetest.registered_nodes[name].groups.sand checks the group sand, correct? 17:56 MiJyn thexyz, IDC about him. 17:56 MiJyn I already dislike him 17:57 MiJyn he said once that I'd never help minetest in a good way 17:57 MiJyn yeah right 17:57 MiJyn he was just angry of someone challenging his opinion 18:00 NekoGloop minetest.registered_nodes[name].groups.sand checks the group sand, correct? 18:01 RealBadAngel nctr = minetest.env:get_node(pos) 18:02 NekoGloop continue 18:02 RealBadAngel minetest.get_item_group(nctr.name, "group") == 1 18:02 NekoGloop ah, i see 18:02 RealBadAngel group == defined group 18:02 NekoGloop but will my method work as well? 18:03 RealBadAngel dunno 18:03 NekoGloop k 18:03 RealBadAngel this one works 18:03 RealBadAngel stripped from VanessaE code 18:04 RealBadAngel she made it to detect my machines 18:04 MiJyn lol 18:04 NekoGloop i see 18:08 RealBadAngel so if node is in defined group call will return 1 18:08 NekoGloop i see 18:09 RealBadAngel full example: 18:09 RealBadAngel nctr = minetest.env:get_node(pos) 18:09 RealBadAngel print ("minetest.get_item_group("..nctr.name..',"tubedevice") == '..minetest.get_item_group(nctr.name, "tubedevice")) 18:09 RealBadAngel if (string.find(nctr.name, "pipeworks:tube_") == nil) 18:09 RealBadAngel and minetest.get_item_group(nctr.name, "tubedevice") ~= 1 then return end 18:10 RealBadAngel pipeworks autoplace.lua line 44 18:10 NekoGloop kk 18:15 NekoGloop should clay be treated as dirt for the purpose of growing plants? 18:15 NekoGloop (e.g. papyrus) 18:15 PilzAdam @everyone: do you think this is a better minetest.conf.example: http://ompldr.org/vZm5lZw/my_minetest.conf.example ? 18:15 NekoGloop PilzAdam: yes. just from clicking it. 18:19 Calinou +1 PilzAdam 18:19 Calinou put spaces after #, always 18:19 Calinou "enable_texture_atlas = true # make a big image of all small node images" < needs more description 18:20 Calinou "put small (16x16) node textures in an atlas to improve performance" would be better 18:20 Calinou "# maximum view range" should be "maximum view range (in nodes)" 18:21 NekoGloop hello cornernote 18:21 Calinou hi windows modder 18:21 * Calinou highfives cornernote 18:21 Calinou :P 18:21 Calinou gtg now... dinner, bye 18:22 Mikeonline can someone help here: http://pastebin.com/vyTnsjeu 18:22 Mikeonline sender:get_player_name does not work here 18:24 Mikeonline wb PilzAdam 18:24 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=44708 18:25 NekoGloop cool 18:27 hmmmm ... 18:28 hmmmm there's nothing wrong with minetest.conf.example 18:28 Mikeonline mhhh 18:28 NekoGloop hmmmm: there's everything wrong with it 18:28 NekoGloop it sucks 18:28 hmmmm no, there's not. 18:28 hmmmm there's nothing wrong with it at all. 18:29 PilzAdam every single setting has as # in front of it so you cant see setting very well 18:30 hmmmm that's completely standard for default configuration files 18:30 PilzAdam then its not a god standard IMO 18:30 PilzAdam *good 18:30 NekoGloop s/IMO/at all 18:31 NekoGloop FTFY 18:31 hmmmm you two are basically the only people who have a problem with that 18:31 NekoGloop everyone does 18:31 hmmmm do you think that using '-' to specify if something is a command line flag is wrong too? 18:32 NekoGloop except you 18:32 PilzAdam so there is now a better file for two people in the forum 18:32 hmmmm also. 18:32 hmmmm your version is way longer than 80 columns. 18:32 hmmmm so it'd get chopped off and screwed up in lots of peoples' editors 18:33 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOIxHLGWgQE&feature=relmfu 18:33 NekoGloop not mine 18:33 NekoGloop because 16:9 screen 18:33 PilzAdam my version has more sections than the default one; in the default one there are graphic things "mixed up" with other client things 18:34 PilzAdam gtg 18:34 PilzAdam bye 18:36 NekoGloop what is the default cooktime if one is not specified? 18:38 thexyz #----GRAPHIC---- 18:38 thexyz # show window in fullscreen 18:38 thexyz fullscreen = false 18:38 thexyz isn't that better? 18:39 NekoGloop nop 18:41 thexyz why no? 18:41 thexyz explain 18:42 NekoGloop because clutter 18:42 thexyz where's clutter? setting's description goes right before it 18:44 thexyz current pilzadam's version is not inconvenient, for example, i'm used to jumping to specific line, then pressing "end", then editing setting 18:54 jordach anyone know qmake? 19:08 T_A_N_K what's the dll that you have to put into minetest's bin folder to get sound on windows? 19:09 Lumpio- linux.dll 19:09 T_A_N_K no seriously, the minetest forum seems to be blocked on this pc, and i just want to get this done quick 19:10 hmmmm openal.dll? 19:11 thexyz jordach: "don't ask to ask" 19:13 T_A_N_K yes jordach, ask to tell 19:17 T_A_N_K minetest seems to not have sound on windows vista 32 bit 19:22 * jordach seriously N00BED 19:22 thexyz ? 19:22 jordach worked out how WIM Works 19:25 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: OpenAL.dll 19:25 NekoGloop install OpenAL 19:28 NekoGloop has anyone else realized that on_step simply calls a globalstep? 19:28 jordach i just made a minecraft chest that is smaller than the normal one 19:28 NekoGloop cool 19:31 jordach anyone wanna see pokemon models made from WIM? 19:33 NekoGloop sure 19:33 jordach ill start with a fav 19:33 NekoGloop make groudon :D 19:33 jordach that nodebox will be accurately lifesize scaled 19:34 NekoGloop *thinks for a bit* 19:34 NekoGloop HOLY SHIT THAT'S GONNA BE A HUGE NODEBOX 20:02 jordach NekoGloop, ive done the legs, body, and the first arm 20:02 NekoGloop of? 20:02 jordach (un textured) 20:02 jordach lets filter 20:03 jordach humanshape (/me does not follow egg group) 20:03 NekoGloop i have no idea :3 20:03 jordach gen4 20:03 NekoGloop uh............................... 20:03 NekoGloop uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh............... 20:03 NekoGloop UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH................. 20:03 NekoGloop idk 20:04 jordach apparently, "diamonds" are a girls best friend# 20:04 jordach also tip; jewel 20:04 NekoGloop still no idea 20:04 FreeFull And dogs are men's best friends 20:04 jordach -1 20:04 jordach cats are 20:04 jordach :D 20:04 NekoGloop Meow~! :3 20:04 jordach hint; stands around 1.67 meters 20:05 * FreeFull pets NekoGloop 20:05 NekoGloop no idea 20:05 * NekoGloop purrs >w< 20:05 FreeFull jordach: You? 20:05 jordach only three 20:05 jordach any more, you die 20:05 RealBadAngel tried again to play 20:05 jordach lagged like crapsicles 20:05 RealBadAngel its impossible now for me to play on any us server 20:06 NekoGloop singleplayer seablock is laggy as hell 20:06 LAD i put all the leavs in your chest RBA 20:07 NekoGloop (you can set skyblock to generate water everywhere) 20:07 RealBadAngel lad, so what. thx anyway 20:07 RealBadAngel but i cant play there 20:07 LAD ok 20:07 LAD y is every 1 lagging 20:07 LAD im not 20:07 RealBadAngel if i stand by a tree choppin it down for 2 minutes 20:07 RealBadAngel and see tree regenerating all the time 20:07 LAD oh ok 20:08 RealBadAngel when i place blocks they dissapear and appear after half a minute 20:08 RealBadAngel and im falling down 20:09 RealBadAngel once fallen im being killed 20 times in a row 20:09 RealBadAngel fuck this 20:09 Muadtralk rawr 20:09 RealBadAngel even hardcore player will say enough 20:09 Muadtralk use my server! 20:09 Muadtralk actually it crashed again 20:09 cornernote hi 20:09 cornernote i am trying to use minetest.after(time, func, param) , and pass a param 20:09 cornernote like this.. 20:10 RealBadAngel thats not a problem with certain server sdzen 20:10 Muadtralk ah big issues 20:10 RealBadAngel its a problem with fucked up network code 20:10 cornernote minetest.after(1, function(my_arg)end, my_arg) 20:10 cornernote but it doesnt seem to work, any tips ? 20:11 RealBadAngel any lag cause the desync 20:11 RealBadAngel and game go nuts 20:11 RealBadAngel i actually feel like i was on mars tryin to play 20:12 RealBadAngel with distance caused lag 20:12 NekoGloop it's not a problem with networking, but rather with minetest itself 20:12 NekoGloop try singleplayer skyblock 20:12 RealBadAngel why the fuck im able to play FPS games with same connection 20:12 NekoGloop same lag will be present 20:12 RealBadAngel and cant play simple block game for fuck sake 20:13 RealBadAngel lets play unreal NekoGloop 20:13 NekoGloop cornernote: for fucks sake, let us disable the spam of the cmd consolde 20:13 NekoGloop console* 20:14 RealBadAngel you will see 20:14 NekoGloop realbadangel: i have no idea what you jsut said 20:14 RealBadAngel UNREAL 20:14 RealBadAngel got that? 20:14 NekoGloop ...? 20:14 RealBadAngel damn..... 20:14 RealBadAngel ask uncle google what unreal is 20:14 RealBadAngel FPS shooter 20:15 jordach dag nabbit 20:15 jordach closed it without saving :( 20:15 RealBadAngel Unreal Tournament 20:15 jordach was 93% done too 20:15 jordach night all 20:15 RealBadAngel n8 20:16 iqualfragile n8 20:48 NekoGloop portal flash game. 20:48 NekoGloop wtf. 20:48 NekoGloop freakin impossible 20:49 NakedFury sidescroller? 20:49 NakedFury I played one like that at kongregate 20:49 NekoGloop http://www.arkgames.info/?portfolio=portal 20:49 NekoGloop yes 20:49 NekoGloop i think 20:49 NekoGloop lvl15 imbossible ;_; 20:50 NekoGloop impossible* 20:51 NekoGloop would be easier in 3d, i think 20:53 OldCoder NekoGloop, Servers restarted 20:53 NekoGloop cool 20:53 NekoGloop not currently playing minetest though XD 20:54 OldCoder That is fine 20:54 OldCoder Just nailing down pieces 20:54 OldCoder Of the minish variety 20:54 NakedFury I wish I could move the level block 20:55 NakedFury sadly I made my island revolve around block 1 and now its in the middle of it blocking my cool stairs 20:55 OldCoder NakedFury, where is this? 20:55 NakedFury omg episode 1 of the new how I met your mother series 20:56 OldCoder ? 20:56 OldCoder There is a new series? 20:56 NakedFury the skyblock island.... season 8 20:56 OldCoder Ah 20:56 NakedFury Season 8 Episode 1 Farhamption 20:56 * OldCoder back later 20:57 iqualfragile tears of steel ist out 21:02 * mika_r () 21:03 mika_r anyone online? 21:03 FreeFull No 21:03 iqualfragile nobody is ever online in this 80-people-channel 21:03 mika_r ok, good, so it doesn't make a difference if i fail and post my password here 21:05 mika_r damn i hate this 21:05 iqualfragile thats correct 21:05 iqualfragile even if you would post your password here we would just see stars 21:05 iqualfragile let me demonstate: ************************************************************************************************** 21:05 iqualfragile (well, im using a fairly secure password) 21:05 mika_r first it prompts me to sign in when i identify it says i'm already logged in 21:06 mika_r ********* 21:06 mika_r seems legit 21:07 thexyz ☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆ 21:07 thexyz yes, stars 21:07 MiJyn :D 21:11 mika_r anone using minetoon textures? 21:11 iqualfragile meth 21:11 iqualfragile uhm… me 21:12 * VanessaE peeks in 21:13 VanessaE hi 21:14 mika_r hi 21:15 RealBadAngel hi VanessaE 21:15 VanessaE hi all :) 21:17 pskosinski 360 21:17 pskosinski meh, sorry 21:17 OldCoder VanessaE, hello 21:18 VanessaE what's news? 21:18 NekoGloop I'm standing in a portal 21:18 NekoGloop http://www.arkgames.info/?portfolio=portal 21:25 OldCoder 21:25 OldCoder Stopping servers to update Skyblock 21:28 OldCoder Servers restarted 21:28 OldCoder VanessaE, test new Skyblock please 21:28 VanessaE doesn't connect. 21:29 OldCoder Checking 21:29 OldCoder Ah 21:29 OldCoder Wait 21:29 OldCoder That's what I get for doing it manually and not rebuilding 21:29 OldCoder Tell him... 21:29 OldCoder To remove the "fire" dependency 21:30 OldCoder Doing that now 21:30 VanessaE ok 21:31 OldCoder VanessaE, try it now 21:32 VanessaE connecting... 21:32 cornernote fire is only required because its fun when things burn 21:32 cornernote there is nothing ingame that depends on it, only the line in depends.txt 21:32 cornernote want me to remove it in the mod ? 21:33 OldCoder cornernote, Yes 21:33 OldCoder cornernote, It causes crashes in Skyblock 21:33 OldCoder Apparently 21:33 OldCoder NekoGloop or RBA noticed this 21:33 OldCoder Can be debugged later 21:33 OldCoder Something to do with the large amount of vegetation IIRC 21:33 NekoGloop me 21:33 OldCoder Goal right now is to stabilize 21:33 NekoGloop and yes 21:33 OldCoder NekoGloop, thx 21:33 OldCoder To make these worlds 100% solid 21:34 OldCoder Then to nail down the pieces that stick up 21:34 OldCoder Eventually 21:34 OldCoder You'll have something to show the media 21:34 OldCoder Wikipedia Page be damned 21:35 OldCoder NekoGloop, cornernote, VanessaE, etc.: Eventually I'll have a simple update mechanism. It will pull mods into a live framework. 21:36 OldCoder Until then just advise me of bug fixes in mods 21:36 OldCoder mod list is on my webpage 21:36 OldCoder mika_r, I am using HexChat with my own patches 21:37 mika_r ? 21:37 OldCoder mika_r, somebody with your nick just VERSIONd me 21:37 OldCoder Not you? Hmm 21:37 OldCoder * Received a CTCP TIME from mika_r 21:38 OldCoder * Received a CTCP VERSION from mika_r 21:38 VanessaE yay! level 3 complete....and now there's a level 4!? erk 21:38 mika_r it was me, hard to use this app 21:38 OldCoder Ah 21:38 OldCoder VanessaE, Have fun 21:38 cornernote fire is removed from depends.txt 21:38 NekoGloop oh now there's a level 4? 21:38 cornernote VanessaE, not really a level 4 21:38 OldCoder cornernote, ty 21:38 cornernote theres a new sphere 21:38 cornernote and a level 4 block 21:38 cornernote but no missions 21:38 * OldCoder will bbs 21:38 VanessaE oh ok 21:39 mika_r oldcoder, i left the game loading today when i went away but it was still laggy when i got back 21:39 cornernote feel free to make your own levels, i'll add them in 21:39 OldCoder mika_r, Your country is, again? 21:39 cornernote just look in the levels folder 21:39 mika_r finland 21:39 OldCoder mika_r, Yes. The new servers don't work well for Europe. I'll look into this. It will depend on the co$t. 21:39 OldCoder $$$ 21:39 OldCoder bbs 21:40 mika_r ok 21:42 VanessaE cornernote: idea - add in unified dyes, require the player to do something with all the flowers they've likely collected by this point. 21:43 NekoGloop flowers is added externally from skyblock 21:43 VanessaE for the sake of ratios, I have 3 rose, 55 tulip, 52 yellow dandelion, about 220 cactus, 37 geraniums, 3 violas, 104 cotton, 8 white dandelion, and 6 seaweed at this point. 21:44 mika_r time to go, bye 21:44 VanessaE NekoGloop: that's ok, UD requires flowers anyway; depending on one depends on the other anyway 21:45 VanessaE (which, by the way, tells me I need to increase the likelyhood of getting roses and violas) 21:45 VanessaE (I'll issue an update later today) 21:45 NekoGloop roses yes, violas not really 21:46 VanessaE no? 21:46 VanessaE I barely found any 21:46 NekoGloop if you want to, then sure 21:46 NekoGloop in actual worlds, it seems they are much moer common 21:47 VanessaE roses are? 21:47 VanessaE interesting. 21:47 NekoGloop no 21:47 NekoGloop violas are 21:47 NekoGloop not roses 21:47 NekoGloop roses are rare as hell 21:48 VanessaE haha 21:48 VanessaE not here 21:48 VanessaE they're all over the damn place 21:48 VanessaE we have rose gardens around the lake, in every color the damn things usually grow in :-) 21:48 NekoGloop lol 21:48 NekoGloop not real worlds 21:48 VanessaE you mean not in the wild 21:48 NekoGloop i meant "real" minetest worlds 21:48 VanessaE oh 21:49 Mikeonline n8 all 21:49 VanessaE well I'd like them to be about as prolific, relative to one another, as in the real world 21:50 VanessaE (if there's twice as many tulips as violas in real life, it should be that way in the mod, even if they're far more common otherwise 21:51 Octupus hello 21:51 VanessaE hi Octupus 21:52 NekoGloop Meow 21:52 Octupus :) 21:53 OldCoder Octupus, wb 21:53 Octupus hi 21:54 OldCoder VanessaE, any consensus yet on the item drop changes? Some sort of modified version? 21:54 VanessaE not sure yet 21:54 VanessaE cornernote seems to think it's generally okay idea 22:02 OldCoder VanessaE, I am sure it will be worked out 22:21 T_A_N_K redcrab, please reset my password on your 0.4.3 server 22:21 iqualfragile dont! 22:22 T_A_N_K dont reset my password? 22:22 iqualfragile exactly 22:22 T_A_N_K wtf are you talking about 22:22 iqualfragile landmine likes your name far too much 22:22 T_A_N_K i need it reset because i need to create a new one -_- 22:32 MiJyn lol 22:39 iqualfragile MESE (as Military Enveloped Special Equipment) 22:41 MiJyn yes 22:41 MiJyn of course 22:43 Octupus Nyan_Cat (that game on the app store ) 22:43 Octupus :) 22:47 Lumpio- mese 8D 22:48 Octupus there i fixed the world 22:51 OldCoder NekoGloop, wb 22:51 NekoGloop On ipad now 22:51 NekoGloop :P 22:54 MiJyn interesting: http://www.google.com/trends/?q=minetest,+minecraft&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 22:55 MiJyn wow, minecraft is more popular than microsoft! :P http://www.google.com/trends/?q=minecraft,+microsoft&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 23:00 NekoGloop XD 23:02 Octupus lol 23:02 Octupus mc is more popular then micheal phelps 23:02 Octupus :l 23:02 MiJyn lol 23:02 MiJyn MC is more popular than anything lol 23:02 Octupus XD 23:04 Octupus that isnt very fair :) 23:19 Octupus is it a good sign to have jesus cruxified on the day number u were born 23:25 Octupus_ srry i timed out 23:26 Octupus_ i guess codepad doesnt take big python codes :l 23:47 bas080 Had to share this idea... coral mod... a reason to appreciate oceans a bit more. 23:47 NekoGloop Hm... 23:47 NekoGloop Awesome idea. 23:47 NakedFury will look weird if you dont make the items with water 23:47 NekoGloop But how do we detect oceans! 23:48 bas080 I would be more likely to build an underwater house 23:48 NekoGloop NakedFury: Make them be full nodes 23:48 bas080 Corals grow not that deep 23:48 NekoGloop Perhaps... 23:48 bas080 so check if near air but still under water 23:48 NekoGloop Ore generation code? :D 23:49 bas080 That should work... 23:49 bas080 Have to play with the arguments to get some cool shapes. 23:49 bas080 NakedFury, good point unless corals are nodes. 23:49 NakedFury nodes with water texture painted too 23:50 NakedFury outside of the water it will look weird 23:50 NekoGloop Just make coral a full node 23:50 bas080 .... that's not gonna look good. Am checking how leaves look underwater. 23:52 bas080 looks. ok. But the water texture to which you are facing is drawn :S 23:52 NekoGloop Ofc