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00:00 bas080 Hey NekoGloop
00:00 bas080 Please name me by my full name
00:00 bas080 :P
00:00 NekoGloop Nuu, my fingers cannot handle it
00:01 bas080 Long time NekoGloop... has allot happened meanwhile
00:01 NekoGloop No not really
00:01 NekoGloop I've worked on some mods, havent released anything though
00:02 bas080 K... i'm working on chess atm
00:03 NekoGloop Ofc you are
00:03 NekoGloop And completely making my mods look like shit
00:33 * khonkhortisan went skydiving!
00:33 NekoGloop Sweet
00:33 T_A_N_K awesome!
00:36 M13Coder sfan5?
00:39 T_A_N_K sfan5 is afk lol
00:39 T_A_N_K someone should create a REAL sign to replace the shitty one now that it's possible
00:39 T_A_N_K so i can, you know, make this economy mod exremely awesome
00:40 T_A_N_K "minecraft signs"
00:41 NekoGloop Thexyz did
00:42 T_A_N_K oh rly? GIVE ME A LINK! :D
00:44 khonkhortisan http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2736
00:44 T_A_N_K what is the WTFPL
00:45 T_A_N_K i know cc and fttp but wtfpl?
00:45 khonkhortisan it's a publicly available "I don't care what happens to it" license
00:47 NekoGloop It's "Whatever the fuck you want to public liscence"
00:50 T_A_N_K very good, wait until you see what i transform it into, you guys are going to shit your pants
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00:51 cornernote hi
00:52 cornernote i am trying to override a node, without overriding the whole thing, using minetest.registered_nodes
00:53 cornernote i can override something like the image, that works, but a callback function doesnt want to work for me
00:53 cornernote here is my code
00:53 cornernote http://pastebin.com/iZiNk6Wa
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00:54 cornernote if i do like entity.tiles = {"default_sandstone.png"}  .. that works fine
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01:01 bas080 NekoGloop, And completely making my mods look like shit?
01:01 NekoGloop In comparison, i mean
01:01 bas080 thafuck?
01:01 bas080 problem?
01:02 NekoGloop Yes, thanks for asking.
01:03 bas080 not mine
01:05 cornernote ok, heres another example, one working and one not working, side by side
01:05 cornernote http://pastebin.com/Hx23HJpf
01:06 cornernote i cant understand why the 1st way wont work
01:06 NekoGloop You dont make a table
01:06 cornernote i dont understand
01:07 NekoGloop You get userdata and treat it as a table
01:07 NekoGloop You need to make userdata into a table
01:07 cornernote how do i fix ?
01:07 NekoGloop I dont remember how though
01:07 NekoGloop Look at technic
01:07 cornernote k
01:09 bas080 NekoGloop, what's your issue?
01:10 cornernote the only minetest.registered_nodes calls are
01:10 cornernote if minetest.registered_nodes[node_name].paramtype2 == "facedir"
01:10 cornernote type thing
01:10 NekoGloop Huh...
01:10 cornernote in technic
01:10 NekoGloop I know
01:10 cornernote thats nothing like what i am doing
01:10 NekoGloop I could have swore it needed some thing else...
01:11 bas080 You can say what's on your mind instead of not saying it.
01:12 NekoGloop The fact my mods look like shit compared to everyone else's ;_;
01:13 cornernote so make them better =)
01:13 NekoGloop Heh
01:13 cornernote compared to whos ?
01:13 NekoGloop Everyone's ;_;
01:13 cornernote shit in what way ?
01:13 cornernote the code, the result, the gameplay ?
01:13 NekoGloop As in they look and just are shit...
01:13 bas080 If you can play minetest you can also pixelart 16x16 png's
01:14 NekoGloop Evil block sticks and tools all look the worst ;_;
01:14 bas080 just need some patients and inspiration. Internet helps for inspiration.
01:19 cornernote if your not happy with it, make another mod
01:20 bas080 NekoGloop, if you want we can co-op on the portal mod...
01:20 bas080 I'm sure you can add some cool stuff.
01:20 NekoGloop Just get code from throwing and teleporter mods
01:22 bas080 good idea. But the moment when you go through the portals won't work...
01:22 NekoGloop The momentum part?
01:22 bas080 Portal starts to get fun when you use your falling speed to boost yourself forward.
01:23 NekoGloop Hm...
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01:30 khonkhortisan Portals can be thrown further than nodes can be placed, no?
01:31 NekoGloop Ofc
01:31 NekoGloop Depends on if you get the angle right
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01:32 T_A_N_K bllop
01:32 T_A_N_K bloop
01:32 T_A_N_K bleep
01:32 NekoGloop Blarp
01:32 bas080 Derp
01:32 khonkhortisan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBpMSmYP7to
01:33 khonkhortisan bllop bloop bleep Blarp beep Derp
01:34 bas080 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDIuoQXP96E
01:36 bas080 just sharing my favorite Spongebob moment there.
01:37 NekoGloop Dam dadi doo~
01:37 M13Coder hello
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01:37 bas080 Hey M13Coder, sup?
01:38 M13Coder nothing much you
01:40 bas080 modding chess mod while watching documentary BBC's spirits of the Maya.
01:41 bas080 M13Coder, are you on the forums?
01:41 NekoGloop Is it possible for tools to be stacked? (by setting stack_max)
01:42 M13Coder no im not why
01:43 bas080 I like looking up members posts so i can get to know them better.
01:44 bas080 Always looking for good ideas and mods or others.
01:46 M13Coder ok
01:47 bas080 Do you like playing minetest M13Coder? Or a better question would be. Why are you here?
01:47 NekoGloop He is on the forums
01:47 M13Coder yep
01:47 NekoGloop He just doesnt use his account
01:48 M13Coder not often
01:58 T_A_N_K i've been working for hours
01:59 T_A_N_K how do i read from a specific line in lua?
02:02 T_A_N_K nevermind
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02:28 Keegann queit on here
02:36 bas080 Improved chessboard borders in chess mod http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2784. Now has coordinates and border pattern thnx to tonyka's texture skills!
02:37 bas080 Hey Keegann, i know... let's break the silence with a good DEEERRRPPP
02:38 OldCoder Keegann, I am afraid that you have stirred up LandMine a bit
02:38 OldCoder There is a problem
02:38 OldCoder It is probably a police matter now
02:38 khonkhortisan why is worldedit's //dig so slow?
02:39 NekoGloop Because it digs air nodes too
02:41 khonkhortisan the sun is up but it's still dark out
02:41 khonkhortisan that's how slow it is
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02:42 T_A_N_K why will this not work?
02:42 T_A_N_K minetest.chat_send_player(player:get_player_name(), "Teleporting to spawn...")
02:42 T_A_N_K local player = minetest.env:get_player_name()
02:42 T_A_N_K player:setpos(spawn)
02:42 T_A_N_K i've been trying to do it for over an hour
02:42 khonkhortisan there's no string:setpos()
02:43 khonkhortisan and it's objectref that has :get_player_name()
02:44 khonkhortisan take out the middle line
02:45 T_A_N_K i did, now it doesn't setpos
02:46 khonkhortisan how are you first getting player?
02:47 T_A_N_K well first i tried, local cb = function(player), then i tried local player = minetest.env:get_player_by_name(name)
02:47 T_A_N_K one gives me an error and one doesn't work
02:47 khonkhortisan what does the player have to do for you to teleport them?
02:48 T_A_N_K respawn
02:48 T_A_N_K should i have set it on die?
02:48 T_A_N_K i'm just too burnt out to comprehend it lol
02:50 khonkhortisan something like this:
02:50 khonkhortisan minetest.register_on_respawnplayer(function(player) minetest.chat_send_player(player:get_player_name(), "Teleporting to spawn...")
02:50 khonkhortisan I mean
02:50 khonkhortisan spawn = {x=0, y=0, z=0}
02:50 khonkhortisan minetest.register_on_respawnplayer(function(player)
02:50 khonkhortisan minetest.chat_send_player(player:get_player_name(), "Teleporting to spawn...")
02:50 khonkhortisan player:setpos(spawn)
02:50 khonkhortisan end)
02:50 khonkhortisan the respawnplayer gives you the player, you shouldn't need to get the player again
02:51 T_A_N_K hmm, that's the exact thing i had an hour ago, it seems to not notice
02:52 T_A_N_K i read this:
02:52 T_A_N_K ^ Called when player is to be respawned
02:52 T_A_N_K ^ Called _before_ repositioning of player occurs
02:52 T_A_N_K fuck
02:53 khonkhortisan maybe returning true or false will make it not change your spawn
02:54 T_A_N_K thank you, so much, i could have saved an hour of work talking to you lol
02:55 khonkhortisan returning true worked?
02:55 T_A_N_K yes, it wasn't like that in 0.4.0 it would have been NICE OF CELERON TO WRITE THAT DOWN
02:57 T_A_N_K did a commit, to save any other people from that >.<
02:59 khonkhortisan pulled commit, to save self
02:59 T_A_N_K hang on i updated it, i didn't fully think through the sentence, fixed now
03:00 khonkhortisan "return true in func to disable regular player placement"
03:00 T_A_N_K yea exactly
03:01 khonkhortisan Apparently I can't replace "ignore"
03:02 T_A_N_K where?
03:03 khonkhortisan /move y 100 to get away from the sky shadows, but that made it worse
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03:29 * VanessaE peeks in
03:29 M13Coder uh oh
03:29 VanessaE what-oh?
03:30 M13Coder OldCoder is gonna talk to you
03:30 VanessaE I heard that Landmine has...um... done something
03:30 VanessaE but I haven't heard what yet
03:30 M13Coder nothing
03:31 M13Coder he hasn't done anything
03:31 M13Coder besides talking
03:31 OldCoder VanessaE, It is pretty bad this time
03:31 VanessaE what happened?
03:31 OldCoder As in I guess I need to call the police tomorrow
03:31 OldCoder In *three* Goddamn locations
03:31 OldCoder Mine, Keegan's home town, and LandMine's city
03:31 OldCoder Keegan has been played
03:32 OldCoder This is not
03:32 OldCoder How I wanted to spend the evening
03:32 OldCoder :-(
03:32 OldCoder VanessaE, I may need to have them contact you
03:32 OldCoder Me too, of course
03:32 OldCoder Keegan. I'm sorry. This was your decision.
03:32 OldCoder
03:32 VanessaE I don't know how much help I can be, but if necessary I guess so
03:32 M13Coder not really it wad yours btw
03:33 M13Coder you started it OldCoderr
03:33 OldCoder M13Coder: Grow up. It's time.
03:34 M13Coder you know I'm right
03:34 OldCoder No.
03:34 OldCoder And I am afraid
03:34 OldCoder I will need to demonstrate that
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03:35 M13Coder
03:35 OldCoder Blank line if you want
03:35 OldCoder Doesn't change the situation
03:35 M13Coder and your the creeper that finds out peoples phone numbers
03:35 OldCoder Grow up, kid
03:35 OldCoder Bullshit
03:35 OldCoder You want the truth?
03:35 OldCoder The police are getting the truth
03:36 OldCoder That is the point
03:36 OldCoder I have no choice now
03:36 M13Coder your the one making the bug deal
03:36 T_A_N_K you all have a good night
03:36 VanessaE guys guys please
03:36 M13Coder I'm done today and you'll never see me again
03:37 OldCoder M13Coder, take responsibility. It can still be worked out. But for legal reasons it's going to be complicated.
03:37 OldCoder VanessaE, there are legal issues now
03:37 OldCoder I didn't count
03:37 M13Coder I'm gonna be hided
03:37 OldCoder I am sorry but I really did not expect
03:37 OldCoder That Keegan would let LandMine play him
03:38 OldCoder LandMine: You have won. Does that help?
03:38 OldCoder Geez
03:38 M13Coder yep you'll never see me again see you never
03:38 OldCoder And I tried to make peace
03:38 OldCoder LandMine: I asked Vanessa here to unban you
03:38 OldCoder Thought the matter was settled
03:38 OldCoder Was it really necessary?
03:39 OldCoder M13Coder, it is not about you. Growing up includes understanding that.
03:40 Keegann done leaving
03:40 OldCoder Keegann, Take responsibility. Grow up. Remember that.
03:40 Keegann how bout you
03:41 Keegann your the one agruing with a 15 year old
03:42 Keegann yea that what I thought
03:42 OldCoder Keegann, Landmine is much older than 15
03:43 OldCoder And he is the key factor right now
03:43 OldCoder You are the foolish kid
03:43 OldCoder Who was played
03:43 OldCoder
03:43 Keegann your the creeper
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03:44 Keegann that want to call your whole city
03:45 OldCoder Keegann, you are not helping yourself
03:45 OldCoder You have just shown
03:45 OldCoder Why I must call the police
03:45 OldCoder Don't you get it?
03:45 OldCoder You won't save yourself that way
03:46 OldCoder Grow up
03:46 OldCoder Take responsibility
03:46 VanessaE will someone please just tell me what happened?
03:46 OldCoder
03:46 OldCoder Keegann, I have documented everything
03:46 Keegann I don't I'm done with you anyway
03:46 OldCoder And spoken to adults in multiple channels
03:46 Keegann leaving
03:46 OldCoder I have also saved the logs
03:46 OldCoder Good luck
03:46 OldCoder No sarcasm
03:46 OldCoder If you wish to grow up
03:47 OldCoder Read what I have just said
03:47 OldCoder And think about it
03:47 Keegann bye VanessaE
03:47 OldCoder Take responsibility
03:47 OldCoder For your actions
03:47 OldCoder
03:47 Keegann you lied to me
03:49 Keegann hope you a prepared for tommorrow ;)
03:49 VanessaE ...
03:49 OldCoder ???
03:50 OldCoder Keegann, Neither VanessaE nor I have ever lied to you AFAIK
03:50 OldCoder You on the other hand
03:50 OldCoder Are not Mr. Honest
03:51 Keegann you said I have to leave for five minutes so I did today and you never said anything bout it
03:51 Octupus any1 know of a good free app from the app store
03:52 Keegann bye VanessaE calm this guy down
03:52 OldCoder Keegann, I did not say that
03:52 Keegann plz
03:52 OldCoder You dropped carrier before I could stop you
03:52 OldCoder Then like a baby
03:52 OldCoder You went to LM
03:52 VanessaE I don't have any control over what OldCoder says or does.
03:52 OldCoder Who has played you
03:52 * OldCoder sighs
03:52 OldCoder That is the last
03:52 OldCoder I swear, the last
03:52 OldCoder time I try to do that
03:52 OldCoder LM has won
03:52 Octupus u decieded to make the call
03:53 VanessaE I tried to tell you :-)
03:53 OldCoder Got no choice
03:53 OldCoder VanessaE, would have worked
03:53 Octupus dont coder
03:53 Octupus keegan soesnt inserstand how much truble he honna get into
03:53 OldCoder Octupus, son... Be the older kid now
03:53 OldCoder For everybody else, Octupus is one of three polymaths I've met
03:53 Octupus i wish i cud
03:54 OldCoder He is not what he appears
03:54 OldCoder Octupus, there is a legal matter
03:54 OldCoder When Keegann threw his tantrum
03:54 OldCoder He went to LM and LM played him
03:54 OldCoder Like a fish on a hook
03:54 OldCoder And I
03:54 OldCoder am stuck on the hook
03:54 Octupus but keegan did it all by his own
03:55 OldCoder You don't know what has happened
03:55 Octupus he known the landmine wud have sone
03:55 Octupus but he wanted to go with him because he was well known in te mt community as a griefer
03:56 VanessaE OldCoder, PM
03:56 OldCoder VanessaE, All right
03:56 Octupus i bet they were playing to grief every server until landmine backstabbes him
03:56 Octupus then goes the tantrum
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03:59 Reckonman HELLLO!!!!! oldcoder
04:00 Octupus vanessa whats the ignore command for ics
04:00 Reckonman /ignore
04:01 VanessaE I don't recommend using /ignore - it causes you to miss part of the conversation.
04:02 Reckonman well im no expert so i dunno
04:02 Reckonman was kicked by VanessaE: Reckonman
04:02 Octupus y has he been kicked vann
04:02 VanessaE because he is Landmine.
04:03 NakedFury what did landmine do now?
04:03 VanessaE he exists.
04:03 VanessaE isn't that enough anymore?
04:04 Octupus landmibe is sendnibg me pms
04:05 VanessaE /ignore landmine all
04:05 VanessaE /ignore reckonman all
04:05 Octupus what that do
04:05 VanessaE ignores everything he attempts to say either by msg, notice, wallop, etc.
04:06 NakedFury trolling doesn't work if you ignore the troller.
04:06 Octupus ok
04:06 hmmmm well
04:06 Octupus unknown command ignore
04:06 VanessaE erk.
04:06 VanessaE better get a good irc client then
04:06 hmmmm this is awkward
04:07 Octupus ohh noes
04:07 NakedFury octu its /ignore landmine all /ignore reckonman all
04:07 Octupus im using webchat
04:08 VanessaE webchat probably just doesn't support those commands.  Use a "real" client like mirc, xchat, pidgin, etc.
04:09 Octupus ok im on my ipod now
04:09 Octupus and uts late and a school night
04:09 VanessaE see if you can install colloquy
04:09 VanessaE I think that runs on iOS.
04:09 VanessaE (=iPad/iPod/iPhone)
04:09 Octupus its $1.99
04:09 VanessaE ick
04:10 Octupus im telling u
04:10 VanessaE free software FTW :-)
04:12 Octupus whta every1 doing
04:13 VanessaE trying to figure out the best way to keep undesireables out.
04:13 VanessaE brb
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04:14 VanessaE there.
04:14 VanessaE irc client got weird.
04:14 Octupus oh
04:14 Octupus wht u mean by undesireables
04:14 Octupus food?
04:15 VanessaE people, such as LM
04:15 Octupus ohhhh
04:15 Octupus hmmm
04:15 NakedFury well unless you can kill people or block any mexican then it is gonna be hard
04:16 VanessaE I can't kill/kline/etc but I can block all of Mexico if I want
04:16 VanessaE but I don't like the potential for collateral damage
04:16 Octupus well make a irc client thar blocks every connection ossible in his/her area
04:17 VanessaE not necessary
04:17 VanessaE that sort of stuff is best handled at the channel level - e.g. bans
04:18 VanessaE I could +m but then ops have to be here pretty much all the time
04:18 VanessaE (to give/take voice)
04:18 Octupus yep
04:20 Octupus aend lm a virus :)
04:20 VanessaE no.  illegal and besides I don't have any viruses.
04:20 Octupus mann
04:23 VanessaE at any rate, let's just everyone calm down.
04:24 Octupus forget about today
04:24 VanessaE because landmine screws with everyone he can both on and off channel, he's banned from here for good I think.
04:24 VanessaE Octupus: I think it's safe to assume everything is okay with you, yes?
04:25 Octupus yes but my feelings arent ajusted
04:25 Octupus as yet
04:25 VanessaE I understand.
04:26 VanessaE Solution:  Go play some Open Arena or Quake or so, frag some bots into oblivion.  Let that be your option to vent
04:26 VanessaE (or whatever the shooter-du-jour is)
04:27 Octupus its 11:26 at nigh i sgud be sleeping for school
04:27 VanessaE eh, good point
04:27 VanessaE but, since you're intent on staying up for a bit longer (otherwise you'd already be in bed ;-)  )  you may as well do something productive
04:28 VanessaE so you will feel better in the morning
04:28 Octupus im in bed actually talking on the irc
04:28 VanessaE ok
04:29 VanessaE but you're still "up" :-)
04:29 Octupus with my dog staring at my ipod
04:29 VanessaE haha
04:29 Octupus she is nosey :)
04:30 VanessaE she's curious :-)
04:30 VanessaE see, this is the part where you're supposed to put the iPod down for a minute and just cuddle with the pooch :-)
04:30 Octupus lol
04:30 VanessaE she's like "Daddy, what are all those funny dots for?"
04:30 Octupus ahes a big licker vann
04:31 VanessaE awwww
04:32 VanessaE she's just giving you her lovins :)
04:32 VanessaE my cat licks me on the nose to show that :-)
04:32 Octupus lol
04:32 VanessaE (well one of them does; the other just purrs real loud, like she's got a stuffy noise or something)
04:32 Octupus animals the eat :)
04:32 Octupus lol
04:33 VanessaE say again?
04:33 Octupus animals the beast
04:33 VanessaE Parse error reading /dev/Octupus:  Language mismatch
04:33 Octupus best
04:33 Octupus stupid ipod keyboard
04:33 VanessaE heh
04:34 VanessaE Autocomplete is NOT Your Friend ®
04:34 VanessaE :)
04:35 Octupus yep
04:35 Octupus guess they dont like me
04:35 VanessaE (for what it's worth, you can probably turn that feature off if it's too annoying)
04:36 Octupus its in genral setting i think
04:36 Octupus good nigjt vannessa
04:36 VanessaE good night
04:36 VanessaE sle--
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04:36 VanessaE --ep well.
04:36 VanessaE morning Calinou.
04:36 Calinou hi
04:37 Calinou "--ep well"? :P
04:37 VanessaE finishing an interrupted statement
04:37 VanessaE [09-14 00:36] <Octupus> good nigjt vannessa
04:37 VanessaE [09-14 00:36] * Octupus has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
04:37 VanessaE [09-14 00:36] <VanessaE> good night
04:37 VanessaE [09-14 00:36] <VanessaE> sle--
04:37 VanessaE [09-14 00:36] * Calinou (~Calinou@unaffiliated/calinou) has joined #minetest
04:37 VanessaE [09-14 00:36] <VanessaE> --ep well.
04:37 Calinou k
04:39 OldCoder
04:39 Calinou
04:39 VanessaE
04:39 OldCoder Folks, I can't stay awake. Not well. Quick remark. I need Spanish speakers. This is about talking to police in Mexico. I assume nobody is around who will get involved.
04:40 OldCoder It is actually serious Calinou VanessaE
04:40 VanessaE you still have yet to jut say what happened
04:40 OldCoder But if somebody knows people familiar with Mexico procedures and customs
04:40 VanessaE in plain English
04:40 OldCoder VanessaE, I made a very clear statement to you in PM
04:40 OldCoder Things will need to be in writing
04:41 OldCoder Now I've got to assemble documentation
04:41 OldCoder God, what a pain
04:41 VanessaE leave it for tomorrow.
04:41 OldCoder Sorry, I'm worn out
04:41 OldCoder Good night
04:41 VanessaE don't tear yourself up over someone else's problem
04:41 OldCoder You don't get it
04:41 OldCoder He's going after me as well
04:41 OldCoder Goddamn it... I've got enough to deal with
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04:42 VanessaE like I said, leave it for tomorrow.
04:42 VanessaE nothing you do tonight is going to change the outcome or speed up/slow down the result.
04:42 OldCoder
04:42 OldCoder O.K.
04:42 OldCoder Back for a moment
04:42 OldCoder Here is one more thing
04:42 OldCoder *This* people can do
04:42 OldCoder I need logs of chat or PMs
04:42 VanessaE morning neko259
04:42 OldCoder related to LM
04:43 OldCoder Anything may be useful
04:43 OldCoder Goodnight
04:43 Calinou MT forum is down for now: "Fatal error: Out of memory (allocated 1310720) (tried to allocate 19456 bytes) in /srv/www/minetest.net/www/forum/include/functions.php on line 2878"
04:43 Calinou AAAH! this forum is programmed in java/VB
04:43 VanessaE Calinou: is that what the dark text said?  I only saw it once
04:43 neko259 VanessaE: Hi.
04:43 Calinou works now
04:44 VanessaE 1.3 GB for a forum program?  jeez the game's memory leaks have spilled over onto the forum software now :-)_
04:46 Calinou in bytes, not kilobytes
04:46 VanessaE HAH!
04:46 VanessaE I read that as MB
04:46 Calinou if it was MB, you'd have 1.3TB
04:46 Calinou not GB
04:46 VanessaE ok then I read it as kB
04:46 VanessaE either way I didn't reat it as bytes
04:46 VanessaE read*
04:47 VanessaE don't pay too much attention to the details, I'm tired
04:52 VanessaE Calinou: care for a couple more moreblocks suggestions? :-)
04:53 Calinou what suggestions? :P
04:54 VanessaE wait, lemme double-check before I stick my foot in my mouth :-)
04:55 VanessaE well, for one, glass stairs/slabs/microblocks/etc
04:56 VanessaE lemme update, redcrab's server has at least one or two things I don't have here
04:57 Calinou glass stairs/slabs: maybe, but every face would be rendered (like in 0.3)
04:57 Calinou nodeboxes' faces don't "merge" like normal blocks
04:57 Calinou it is perhaps possible to do with C++ for slabs, but nearly impossible for stairs/panels
04:59 VanessaE ok, the other - extend stonesquare so that it has all the same options the other materials have
04:59 VanessaE as for glass, that would probably look just fine (the doubled faces)
05:00 VanessaE also, some objects have selection boxes that don't match their shape
05:01 VanessaE (I think those were stonesquare stairs/wall stairs in particular)
05:01 Calinou I'll try...
05:01 Calinou normally, stonesquare stairs have all the options other mats have
05:01 VanessaE all these little shapes really make building stuff more fun :-)
05:01 Calinou indeed
05:02 Calinou I wonder if it is possible to remove all the stairs/slabs (keep legacy definitions), and instead use a "microblock" system where you use 1/8th blocks (microblocks) to build slabs/stairs
05:02 Calinou I wonder if it is even possible in lua :P
05:02 Calinou because the game needs to know where you point exactly
05:02 VanessaE it's probably possible, but that means 256 possible nodes for every material :-)
05:03 Calinou if the 7 stairsplus mats + 5 moreblocks mats use this system, I'd have 3072 definitions. O_o
05:03 VanessaE O.O
05:03 VanessaE that's too many:D
05:03 Calinou maybe the definitions would have to be registered in realtime (using the stuff from latest git)
05:04 Calinou if even possible for this kind of stuff
05:04 VanessaE possible, but would there be a point?
05:06 Calinou stonesquare wall stairs have a hitbox which fits, btw, tried
05:06 Calinou VanessaE, being able to build even more stuff with less crafting
05:06 Calinou many people complained about the crafting :/
05:07 VanessaE hm, fair.
05:07 VanessaE ok maybe it was just the regular stonesquare stairs then
05:10 Calinou nope
05:10 VanessaE now you're gonna force me to go double-check :-)
05:11 VanessaE I was right - it's the stonesquare stairs, at least on redcrab's server
05:12 VanessaE wall stairs too
05:12 Calinou then his version is outdated :P
05:12 VanessaE haha
05:13 Calinou having update notifications in console would be nice; eg in your modpack there is a "version.txt" which contains mod version number, and the second line has a URL to a text file which contains a version number
05:13 Calinou if the URL's version number is higher, then you get update notification
05:13 VanessaE that would be a good idea
05:13 VanessaE I like that
05:13 Calinou third line can have a download link too
05:14 Calinou no auto-download, but the link will be shown in console
05:15 * VanessaE waits for the aforementioned features to be implemented so she can bug redcrab to upgrade :D
05:16 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/1204106/
05:16 Calinou ^ would probably look like this
05:16 VanessaE I like that
05:16 VanessaE that's a very good idea.
05:18 * Calinou slaps windows for not letting me change the icon of a .bat file
05:19 VanessaE haha
05:19 Calinou I can choose: have fancy desktop icons and log files, or no log files and icon that looks like gears :|
05:19 Calinou maybe I'll just put my minetest folder on desktop..
05:20 VanessaE also,
05:20 VanessaE think you're up to doing the same stairs/microblocks/etc/etc treatment on (the built-in version of) wool? :-)
05:21 Calinou should try some day :P
05:21 Calinou not right now
05:22 VanessaE heh, ok
05:22 * VanessaE likes having lots of build options
05:22 Calinou yeah, the mod API is perfect for that. take that minecraft :P
05:25 VanessaE heh
05:38 khonkhortisan how much snow does it take to get water?
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05:38 VanessaE dunno, never used that mod
05:39 khonkhortisan chess has the wrong texture names
05:41 Calinou lots of mods do :P texture names are not enforced
05:41 Calinou you should use <modname>_<nodename>.png but you're not forced to do that
05:41 khonkhortisan I mean I downloaded latest and it had three wrong
05:41 khonkhortisan I ln -s'd them
05:42 Calinou lol
05:42 VanessaE modname_nodename_variant.{png|jpg|tif|bmp}
05:42 khonkhortisan cool, you can collect chess pieces by holding them when destroying the game board, and you can get rid of them by placing them back on the board and recreating it.
05:43 khonkhortisan ln -s chess_border_spawn.png chess_spawn.png; ln -s chess_piece_black.png chess_black.png
05:46 khonkhortisan and the horse looks at me when I place it instead of the other person. Forking.
05:48 khonkhortisan yuck^M
05:48 khonkhortisan all the lines have their own comments^M
05:48 khonkhortisan can't get away from the long newlines^M
05:49 * VanessaE throws the extra ^M's in the trash
05:49 khonkhortisan trash^M
05:51 Calinou tif|bmp, lol'd
05:51 VanessaE I think even targa is supported
05:51 khonkhortisan .tif isn't familiar
05:52 VanessaE tif -> TIFF, Tagged Image File Format
05:52 VanessaE I forget in what situation it was most popular
05:57 Calinou winblows 98
05:57 Calinou :P j/k
05:57 VanessaE heh
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06:00 * Calinou seen someone named Landmine on assaultcube
06:01 Calinou lmfao, he votekicked me: reason "lagg"
06:02 VanessaE heh
06:02 khonkhortisan in an official setting, there's a server lag setting, so no need for that kind of kick.
06:02 Weedy_lappy ne ne VanessaE
06:02 VanessaE hm?
06:03 Weedy_lappy do we have cars yet?
06:03 VanessaE no
06:03 Weedy_lappy fffffffffffffffffffffffffffu
06:04 VanessaE nononono, "FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU"
06:04 VanessaE (exactly 7 F's and 12 U's :-)  )
06:04 khonkhortisan fuuuuuuuuuu!
06:05 khonkhortisan fuuuuture fuuuuuntastical fuuurniture
06:05 VanessaE foo.
06:05 khonkhortisan bar.
06:05 khonkhortisan baz.
06:05 Weedy_lappy is this like the 1 w, 4 r's, and 20 y's of wrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
06:08 VanessaE heh
06:09 khonkhortisan Hypothetically, how would I connect a pull request and an issue?
06:09 VanessaE dunno
06:10 VanessaE maybe reply to the issue with a link to the pull request
06:10 VanessaE github is good at drawing conclusions for stuff like that
06:11 VanessaE if it shows "code attached" in the issue list, I guess that means it worked :-)
06:11 VanessaE either way I dunno.  Just making a guess
06:11 VanessaE time for me to get to bed.
06:11 VanessaE good night.
06:11 khonkhortisan bye.
06:11 khonkhortisan What do windows people see without their precious ^M's?
06:21 Calinou I see the ^Ms
06:21 khonkhortisan I rarely see them
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06:23 mika__ hi
06:23 khonkhortisan hello
06:23 mika__ anyone here waiting for iphone 5?
06:24 Calinou I'm not saying "no" to this
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06:24 Calinou I'm saying "fuck no".
06:24 khonkhortisan can't sell iphones without contracts
06:25 mika__ i was going to come to that point, everyone seems to be against it even that there is no info on hardware other than its 2x faster than 4s, => 0,8ghz 2core x2
06:26 mika__ and what i have understood of the hardware used it can be anything between 1,0ghz 2core --> 2,0ghz 4core
06:26 Calinou 2x more bloated software too 8)
06:26 Calinou seriously; apple sucks
06:27 mika__ imo the iphone 4 was last working one
06:27 mika__ i have myself a 4s and still wondering why i didnt get the 4, would have been almost half the prize
06:31 mika__ Calinou, was it you who usually are online with an ipad?
06:32 Calinou I have an ipad 1, last apple product I bought :P
06:33 Calinou I don't go to IRC with an ipad though :P
06:33 mika__ ok
06:36 mika__ only problem in apple is the prize
06:47 Calinou not the only one
06:47 Calinou it locks you into its world
06:47 Calinou and it sucks :P
06:47 mika__ ?
06:48 mika__ you mean that they work best in an apple environment=
06:48 khonkhortisan if anyone's bored, the chess mod could use some help.
07:11 Calinou mika__, yes, it locks you into apple world
07:23 mika__ Calinou, that's true but there are some good things in that too
07:27 Calinou nope
07:27 Calinou at all
07:27 Calinou open systems are better, always
07:35 cornernote how do you get a nodes description ?
07:35 cornernote minetest.env:get_node(pos).description ? doesnt seem to work
07:38 RealBadAngel hi
07:38 cornernote hey
07:38 RealBadAngel what properties do you need?
07:38 cornernote description
07:38 RealBadAngel name?
07:38 cornernote no
07:39 cornernote minetest.register_node("my:thing", {description = "My Thing"})
07:39 cornernote i want to get My Thing
07:40 cornernote not my:thing
07:40 RealBadAngel hmmmm
07:40 RealBadAngel i think i saw something like that, lemme find it
07:40 cornernote how do you get groups ?
07:40 cornernote its the same level as that
07:41 RealBadAngel line 225 in api
07:41 RealBadAngel theres example how to get drawtype from nodedefinition
07:42 RealBadAngel propably you can get other fields that way
07:43 cornernote minetest.registered_nodes[minetest.env:get_node(pos).name].description
07:43 cornernote ok, thats really straight forward
07:44 cornernote NOT!
07:44 cornernote =)
07:44 cornernote seems a roundabout way to get it, but it works
07:44 cornernote thanks RBA
07:44 RealBadAngel no problemo
07:44 RealBadAngel minetest.registered_nodes[nodename][fieldname]
07:44 RealBadAngel brackets are used in example
07:50 RealBadAngel ive finished coding deployer, ufff
07:51 RealBadAngel now just some textures for it
07:54 Calinou how I feel when falling four blocks in minecraft: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-T6MxFonEz6Q/UBwhjJC-WwI/AAAAAAAAjjQ/_xeIbA9itsw/s1600/BootEscape.gif
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10:37 Keegann hello
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10:50 Keegann hello
10:51 whirm hio
10:51 Keegann whatca dong
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11:07 Keegann_ OldCoder u mad bro?
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11:55 NekoGloop Goood mornin...
11:55 NekoGloop :D
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12:29 * Calinou switched IRC clients
12:29 Calinou I now use hexchat :P
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12:30 NekoGloop Cool beans
12:30 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
12:30 NekoGloop Ello adam
12:31 NekoGloop Brb
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12:31 PilzAdam wb
12:32 PilzAdam yay, IPv6
12:33 OldCoder Calinou, HexChat is good
12:33 * Calinou also changed font
12:33 Calinou monospace fonts FTW, you look so pro with them
12:33 PilzAdam +1
12:34 NekoGloop Lol
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12:42 Bigfoot_ Oldcoder you got it yet buddy?
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13:13 PilzAdam brb
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13:24 T_A_N_K celeron55: idea, a /reload command to re-load up all mods
13:24 PilzAdam +1
13:25 PilzAdam but thats not possible, i think
13:27 Basstard` Monospace is too modern.
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13:30 PilzAdam hi VanessaE
13:31 OldCoder VanessaE, good morning
13:32 T_A_N_K anything is possbile
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13:33 PilzAdam but not everything
13:33 OldCoder Then it is possible for something to be impossible <T_A_N_K> anything is possbile
13:33 T_A_N_K exactly!
13:33 PilzAdam UNIVERSE ERROR! Stack TracebacK
13:34 PilzAdam <OldCoder> Then it is possible for something to be impossible <T_A_N_K> anything is possbile
13:34 OldCoder A little recursion never hurt anything
13:34 T_A_N_K this sentence is a lie.
13:34 T_A_N_K is that sentence a lie?
13:35 OldCoder No
13:35 T_A_N_K no, but it's double recursive infinitely
13:36 T_A_N_K well then it must be a lie if it says it isn't but then wouldn't it be telling the truth if it were right?
13:36 OldCoder Nope
13:36 OldCoder Read some Rudy Rucker
13:36 OldCoder He's good at this
13:37 OldCoder It's a self statement
13:37 PilzAdam if you set a variable (sentence) to false it is false and not true
13:37 OldCoder Meta
13:37 PilzAdam so it is a lie
13:37 OldCoder Correct
13:37 OldCoder Nope
13:37 T_A_N_K this sentence is false.
13:37 OldCoder I might write an article about this
13:37 PilzAdam (if the universe was a programming language)
13:37 T_A_N_K so it's true, or is it false? BUMBUMBUM
13:37 OldCoder The false assumption is that a sentence must be one or the other
13:37 OldCoder Not the case
13:38 OldCoder Quite often it is not possible to say that something must be true or false
13:38 PilzAdam if universe == programming langue then {sentence = lie} else {throw  stack overflow error}
13:38 OldCoder Fair nuff
13:38 T_A_N_K in the sense of being a normal sentence and not coding, is it true or false?
13:39 T_A_N_K it's infinitely both!
13:39 OldCoder The terms do not apply
13:39 OldCoder It is a transcendental sentence
13:39 T_A_N_K overruled, i see your terms are not updated
13:39 OldCoder Not to be confused with transcendentistry
13:39 OldCoder Updated? It is fated
13:39 OldCoder :p
13:39 T_A_N_K lol, i wanted to see how long this could go on for
13:40 OldCoder Pretty long
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13:40 OldCoder Like, 50 years; that was old when Star Trek TOS was new
13:40 PilzAdam NekoGloop: <T_A_N_K> this sentence is a lie.
13:40 PilzAdam <T_A_N_K> is that sentence a lie?
13:40 OldCoder Say the right thing to computers... and they explode!
13:40 OldCoder That's what we were taught
13:40 OldCoder Made cautious engineers out of us
13:40 NekoGloop no, the cake is a lie.
13:41 OldCoder Who needs exploding computers... parts all over the place
13:41 OldCoder Messy
13:41 PilzAdam funny
13:41 OldCoder Need to make the computers feel all warm and friendly
13:41 OldCoder Then no BOOM
13:42 T_A_N_K lol
13:43 T_A_N_K how would i write a table to a .lua file, then load it back up?
13:43 PilzAdam minetest.serialize
13:44 T_A_N_K really??
13:44 PilzAdam https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L958
13:44 T_A_N_K that saves me hours of work
13:44 T_A_N_K thank you
13:45 PilzAdam your welcome
13:45 Basstard` His welcome?
13:46 NekoGloop he's derp
13:47 * OldCoder will be back later today
13:48 OldCoder VanessaE, see PM. I think #freenode needs to be involved. The issue isn't likely to go away. LM can be reasonable but I think the issue is psychosis. I'm phoning Mexico.
13:48 NekoGloop the whaT?
13:49 NekoGloop sorry, did i miss something?
13:49 OldCoder NekoGloop, things have sort of hit the fan
13:49 OldCoder Yes
13:49 OldCoder He's hunting VanessaE and me
13:49 OldCoder For real I think
13:49 OldCoder I'm calling the police in Michigan in a few minutes
13:49 OldCoder Then his university in Mexico. He told me that information was accurate.
13:50 OldCoder Invited me to phone his mother
13:50 OldCoder Said: hahahahahaha
13:50 OldCoder This is not what you would call
13:50 OldCoder a safe or healthy situation
13:50 T_A_N_K What?
13:50 OldCoder The rest should private and not public
13:50 T_A_N_K "can't tell if serious"
13:50 OldCoder This channel is for games and not
13:50 OldCoder the rest of it
13:51 OldCoder Supposed to be teamwork and fun
13:51 OldCoder T_A_N_K, Pretty seriousw
13:51 OldCoder *serious
13:51 OldCoder Psychosis
13:51 OldCoder Online had promise 40 years ago
13:51 OldCoder Still does
13:51 OldCoder But there will always be a worm in the bud
13:51 OldCoder Sometimes it needs to be dealt with
13:52 OldCoder I like this project. Everybody here should continue with it. Has a future.
13:52 OldCoder If I can, I'm going to arrange for somebody I know...
13:52 OldCoder to write about it.
13:52 OldCoder In the end, MT will remain and MC will be gone
13:52 OldCoder If you keep at it
13:52 OldCoder You are building something fun and useful
13:52 OldCoder My hat is off to you
13:52 PilzAdam what the ... are you talking about?
13:53 T_A_N_K what the fuck is going on, are you high?
13:53 OldCoder Hmm? Right now I am getting ready to deal with a situation. Also offering my congratulations to his group.
13:53 OldCoder No, son. I am not.
13:53 PilzAdam realy?
13:53 OldCoder NekoGloop is aware of some of it. If you are not, it is fine.
13:53 NekoGloop he's preaching about how MT > MC as far as i can tell
13:53 OldCoder No
13:53 OldCoder This is about LandMine
13:53 OldCoder Misael Roman
13:54 NekoGloop oh, right.
13:54 T_A_N_K i blocked that guys isp a long time ago lol
13:54 NekoGloop dammit, webchat, y u no autoscroll
13:54 OldCoder The MT > MC remarks were an attempt to be positive. If you didn't want to hear them, fine.
13:54 OldCoder Got other things to worry about.
13:54 T_A_N_K then log off and deal with them mate
13:54 NekoGloop MT IS > MC
13:54 NekoGloop :D
13:55 OldCoder T_A_N_K, which is what I was attempting to do. If you dislike politeness that is up to you.
13:55 T_A_N_K right now, minetest is still not as good as minecraft, but it is getting there
13:55 OldCoder Read "The Cathedral and the Bazaar"
13:55 OldCoder MC is the Cathedral
13:56 OldCoder MT is the Bazaar
13:56 OldCoder There is no contest
13:56 T_A_N_K i hope my mods push minetest into the bukkit class of minecraft
13:56 * PilzAdam too
13:56 rsiska OldCoder++
13:56 OldCoder Doesn't matter if they do or don't yet. The point is that MT will scale. MC will not.
13:56 OldCoder I am thinking of asking ESR to write about this project
13:56 T_A_N_K mt doesn't run well on windows
13:56 OldCoder That can be fixed
13:56 OldCoder I promised to work on that issue yesterday in fact
13:57 OldCoder Got sort of disrupted by events
13:57 OldCoder Which is the point; communities need to work together. When they do, they can't be stopped.
13:57 NekoGloop T_A_N_K, did you try my mods yet? ;)
13:57 OldCoder Good morning
13:57 PilzAdam Good morning, Sir
13:59 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqT0iFZifgw&amp;feature=fvwrel just to break the silence
14:00 PilzAdam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaJfYRpNpKc just to "break" the silence
14:01 NekoGloop xD
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14:03 PilzAdam NekoGloop, wanna see a picture of me?
14:03 NekoGloop not really
14:03 PilzAdam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ-QLl5qjLg
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14:12 T_A_N_K who wants to help me make a bukkit-like minetest server modification?
14:12 * PilzAdam maybe
14:12 T_A_N_K i'm talkin all out, like we're going to be maybe working on this for weeks
14:13 T_A_N_K https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/Minetest-Essentials
14:13 T_A_N_K it's very basic, as i just started, but i have many ideas
14:14 PilzAdam are you jordan4ibanez
14:14 PilzAdam ?
14:14 T_A_N_K yes
14:15 PilzAdam and are you 313hummer?
14:15 T_A_N_K yes
14:15 PilzAdam wow
14:15 PilzAdam thanks for your great MT vids!!!
14:15 PilzAdam i realy like them (big fan)
14:15 NekoGloop xD
14:16 NekoGloop i will be doing my own when i get a mic on my birthday :3
14:16 NekoGloop also, pilzadam: re: birthday present from you: MC giftcode would be perfect :D
14:17 T_A_N_K no problem! :D
14:19 NekoGloop lol
14:19 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: you do know you can use minetest.register_chatcommand
14:19 NekoGloop right?
14:20 T_A_N_K that's new :o
14:20 NekoGloop i take that as a no
14:20 NekoGloop look at worldedit
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14:22 _313HUMMER_fan Einen sehr wunderschönen guten Tag, iqualfragile
14:22 iqualfragile Moin
14:25 iqualfragile Gibs neues von der Carts-Front?
14:25 T_A_N_K was für ein schöner Tag ist es lol
14:26 PilzAdam iqualfragile, nicht wirklich (muss mal ein komplett neues system entwerfen, und das braucht zeit)
14:26 PilzAdam T_A_N_K, du kannst deutsch?
14:27 T_A_N_K nein, aber ich benutze übersetzen google
14:28 PilzAdam you just said "translate google"
14:28 T_A_N_K oops
14:28 iqualfragile its translate.google.de isnt it?
14:28 PilzAdam google translator is fun
14:28 NekoGloop xD
14:28 T_A_N_K nein, aber ich benutze google übersetzen*
14:29 PilzAdam it has to be Übersetzer and not übersetzen
14:29 T_A_N_K what would be the difference?
14:29 iqualfragile or den Googelschen Ãœbersetzer
14:29 NekoGloop because derpy language is derpy
14:29 iqualfragile the translator→Übersetzer
14:30 PilzAdam T_A_N_K, Übersetzer is a noun an übersetzen is a verb
14:30 PilzAdam *and
14:30 T_A_N_K oh so ubersetzer is like translate and ubersetzen is translating?
14:30 PilzAdam yes
14:31 PilzAdam but ü and not u
14:31 PilzAdam use ue if you cant type ü
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14:31 PilzAdam wb
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14:32 PilzAdam wb
14:32 T_A_N_K oh okay, so some guy was stalking that other guy?
14:33 PilzAdam i think so
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14:34 PilzAdam i can create a 313HUMMER music mod for MT
14:34 PilzAdam it would fit realy well into MT
14:37 PilzAdam T_A_N_K, what do you think about it?
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14:37 PilzAdam i can create a 313HUMMER music mod for MT
14:37 PilzAdam it would fit realy well into MT
14:37 T_A_N_K_ that'd be pretty cool!
14:37 PilzAdam is there a site where i can download all of them?
14:38 NekoGloop tank, did you try any of my mods yet?
14:38 iqualfragile dont!
14:38 iqualfragile if you do not want to end up with rainbowcaves
14:38 T_A_N_K http://soundcloud.com/jordan-craige
14:39 NekoGloop xd
14:39 T_A_N_K not yet, i'm still trying to make mine, it's been a long time
14:39 NekoGloop xD*
14:39 PilzAdam just found it in the description ;-)
14:39 NekoGloop iqualfragile: are you physically incapable of noticing that's only ONE of my mods?
14:40 iqualfragile jup
14:40 NekoGloop besides, latest version ramps up the rarity
14:40 PilzAdam NekoGloop, no offence, but i think all of your mods are useless
14:40 NekoGloop they are :l
14:41 NekoGloop then again, you shouldnt compare mesecons or technic with any other mod
14:41 T_A_N_K you should make traincarts from bukkit :D
14:41 iqualfragile ambience is the greatest mod yet!
14:41 PilzAdam i compare MY mods with yours
14:42 NekoGloop again, if two mods dont do similar things, they should not be compared
14:42 PilzAdam i compare the usefullness of the mods
14:43 NekoGloop and...?
14:43 NekoGloop my cactusmod > yours still xD
14:43 NekoGloop needles? good. they way you damage the player? that's crap.
14:43 NekoGloop also no randomly generated nodeboxes.
14:45 T_A_N_K do you mind if i throw this into essentials? http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2656
14:45 PilzAdam lol: lag of 2.7s while downloading the music
14:46 NekoGloop tank: DONT
14:46 NekoGloop you will make the essentials unusable.
14:47 PilzAdam only for NekoGloop
14:47 PilzAdam so please add it
14:47 PilzAdam ;-)
14:47 NekoGloop if you all are just going to be asses, i can play that too.
14:47 PilzAdam it was a joke
14:47 NekoGloop it's not that hard to remove my mods from the download site, and i will never release anything more
14:47 iqualfragile T_A_N_K: thats the point about the WTFPL: you can just do whatever you want with it
14:48 iqualfragile you could just use it without asking
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14:50 T_A_N_K_ does this automatically delete dropped items after 5 minutes or so?
14:50 VanessaE good morning
14:50 PilzAdam T_A_N_K, no
14:50 PilzAdam but i can add it
14:50 NekoGloop tank: i suggest you download the mods before i take them down.
14:50 PilzAdam VanessaE, good afternoon
14:51 T_A_N_K that'd be nice! make a timer variable that you can change on the top like item_delete = 5 or whatever
14:51 T_A_N_K nekogloop, i will don't worry man
14:51 NekoGloop that and the download expires in a couple days due to not being downloaded for gloopblocks and gloopores
14:52 T_A_N_K why not drop box them?
14:52 iqualfragile VanessaE: Guten Nachmittag!
14:53 NekoGloop because sendspace has ads, and people of low intelligence will be turned off because they cant use their brain to figure out where the download button is
14:53 T_A_N_K lol
14:53 NekoGloop thus, less people telling me the mod is crap when they lack the mental capacity to use it.
14:54 NekoGloop i wonder where the desert mod went...
14:55 T_A_N_K what happened to jeija?
14:55 PilzAdam hes still active
14:55 T_A_N_K good
14:55 NekoGloop he just dont do much xD
14:55 NekoGloop mesecons gets an update every 5 minutes though, thanks to vanessae
14:56 VanessaE haha
14:56 NekoGloop T_A_N_K: do you know where to get the desert mod?
14:56 T_A_N_K no, all i remember is that it lagged lol
14:56 NekoGloop lol
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14:58 NekoGloop i take it you like minecraft-styled games, from glancing at your channel xD
14:58 T_A_N_K you cannot attatch a player to an entity? shouldn't that be easy?
14:58 NekoGloop player is an entity
14:59 T_A_N_K yep lol
14:59 NekoGloop oh, and mesecons has programmable microcontrollers now
14:59 NekoGloop :D
15:00 T_A_N_K yes i saw, and i was like "wtf" lol
15:00 NekoGloop xD
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15:00 NekoGloop hey, you have a server, right?
15:00 VanessaE and gates, and proper nodebox-based wires that crawl up the sides of blocks, and cool textures by me :-)
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15:01 VanessaE ...and insulated wires, and nodebox-based levers and buttons too
15:01 T_A_N_K i "did" i might open it back up
15:01 PilzAdam hi Jordach
15:01 VanessaE morning jordach
15:01 Jordach HOLY CRAP
15:01 Jordach T_A_N_K; youre back?
15:01 T_A_N_K hello muscles glasses
15:01 NekoGloop lol
15:01 T_A_N_K yes
15:01 Jordach woot
15:02 PilzAdam T_A_N_K, https://github.com/PilzAdam/item_drop/commit/f77e83e65752b5549fd50d378a5653627ad29e76
15:02 T_A_N_K i took a 6 month break to study what makes minecraft and bukkit fun and i hope to bring that to minetest
15:02 T_A_N_K nice! now it can be included
15:02 Jordach T_A_N_K; do you have the python zombie game?
15:02 NekoGloop we really only need the mod api to be better xD
15:02 T_A_N_K no i don't
15:02 Jordach damn
15:02 Jordach i was gunna do it for c++
15:02 Jordach i learned some
15:03 NekoGloop oh great, i guess i just dont get tank's mod then
15:03 T_A_N_K it will have a variable to turn it on dewd
15:04 Jordach yay
15:04 Jordach the @ and " keys are no longer swapped, nor is # and £
15:07 Jordach [16:01:30] <T_A_N_K> hello muscles glasses : referring to my aviators?
15:07 T_A_N_K yea lol, and good
15:09 Jordach T_A_N_K; i will re-write your text based zombie game
15:09 NekoGloop http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1184 I FOUND IT
15:09 Jordach VanessaE; was reckonman landmine?
15:09 VanessaE yes
15:09 Jordach oh
15:09 Jordach my
15:09 Jordach god
15:10 T_A_N_K yay
15:10 VanessaE ?
15:10 Jordach ill provde c++ src on github
15:11 * Jordach starts MC VC++
15:11 Jordach s/MC/MS
15:11 iqualfragile s/MC VC++/vim+gcc
15:12 Jordach EVERYONE http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3053
15:12 T_A_N_K can i call another .lua file to load other .lua files on a init.lua? like say i have a "toast" variable, toast = true, in the file called from that mod file, (init.lua -call-> modloader.lua -call-> modname.lua) will the variables in init.lua still be
15:13 T_A_N_K "readable" to the modname.lua file even if the variable is in init.lua?
15:14 NekoGloop jordach: ikr?
15:14 Jordach :D
15:15 PilzAdam T_A_N_K, if toast is local then not else you can
15:16 T_A_N_K oh okay, and i'm talking about the do(minetest.get_modpath("minetest_essentials").."modname.lua") type of thing
15:16 donaldr3 you can call things from across lua files though
15:16 NekoGloop yup
15:16 T_A_N_K okay good
15:16 NekoGloop technic makes that clear
15:16 donaldr3 like, when I tweaked the nukemod to work with the mesecon mod, I just called mesecon:register_on_signal_on to trigger explosions
15:17 iqualfragile infinite chest would be allright if you would have to supply 2 chests each time you want an new inventory otherwise its just imba
15:19 T_A_N_K i can't wait to go home and go crazy :D
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15:19 T_A_N_K donaldr3: you should make mining certain ores give xp
15:20 Jordach we have no xp system
15:20 T_A_N_K he's making one
15:21 Jordach :O
15:21 PilzAdam T_A_N_K, the music mod will be realy big and will have a load time of ~1 minute
15:21 Jordach T_A_N_K; work started on zombies text game
15:21 T_A_N_K then don't use it!
15:22 T_A_N_K jordach: good
15:22 T_A_N_K or i mean; don't make it
15:22 Jordach i think infinite maps can be made
15:23 PilzAdam code is ready but i dont continue: https://gist.github.com/3722598
15:23 * Jordach notices that PilzAdam just sounded like TheLoLMan
15:23 PilzAdam realy?
15:24 * PilzAdam need to fix that
15:24 Jordach your translation is a little bad today
15:24 PilzAdam :-(
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15:25 Basstard` PilzAdam is but good as though
15:25 T_A_N_K jeija! :D
15:25 Jeija Hi everyone! Hi T_A_N_K!
15:25 PilzAdam sup Jeija
15:26 T_A_N_K wtf is up with this person's profile pic http://minetest.net/forum/profile.php?id=2084
15:27 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/profile.php?id=2170
15:27 donaldr3 yeah, the xp mod right now gives 'digging' xp when you dig any node, and gives 'construction' xp when you place nodes
15:27 Jordach T_A_N_K; two geckos (i think) gunning for it
15:28 VanessaE hi Jeija
15:32 donaldr3 the part we're struggling with on the mod is getting it so that having a higher level gives some sort of bonus
15:33 donaldr3 something we're looking into now is maybe making a special item that only randomly drops from digging, say stone
15:33 donaldr3 and then making that random occurance more frequent as the levels get higher
15:34 PilzAdam maybe higher level = higher chance to get the drop of the digged node?
15:35 donaldr3 PilzAdam: like getting the regular drop for the item?
15:36 PilzAdam you  get the drop of nodes only with a low chance if you have a low level
15:36 donaldr3 that might be a possibility
15:40 T_A_N_K how about you combine it with my mod and give them money?
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15:43 Jordach T_A_N_K; i recently updated my server to have an almost MC mod setiup
15:43 Jordach setup
15:43 T_A_N_K money money money money, or tools, or ores, or double drops, or a nice message, or teleport them to a different world, or put them into a slot machine, or warp them to an area where they can collect special items
15:44 T_A_N_K oh nice jordach
15:44 T_A_N_K or when they get to a certain level they can get privs
15:45 Jordach panes, iron bars, g 'n' d, 3d chests (slightly smaller) and moreblocks, maptools, and someother mod support
15:45 T_A_N_K or a special insta-dig like mcmmo that uses up a level and then goes back to normal
15:46 T_A_N_K bb in 1 hour or so
15:46 T_A_N_K leave
15:46 T_A_N_K oops -_-
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15:54 iqualfragile jordach: g'n'd? 3d-chests?
15:54 iqualfragile maptools?
15:55 Jordach gold and diamonds, smaller model chests via nodeboxes
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16:17 NekoGloop WAKE UP CHATROOM!
16:17 VanessaE no. zzz
16:17 NekoGloop xD
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16:18 * NekoGloop pours the contents of bucket:bucket_water on VanessaE's head
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16:18 iqualfragile f*ing wlan
16:18 PilzAdam fantasticing wlan?
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16:19 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqr7-bjDhq4&amp;feature=related
16:19 rubenwardy just got animated fire...
16:20 NekoGloop cool
16:20 VanessaE I haven't tried that one yet
16:20 rubenwardy from PilzAdam
16:20 PilzAdam yay!
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16:21 NekoGloop hello calinou
16:25 * NekoGloop kicks the chatroom
16:26 PilzAdam kick again
16:26 * NekoGloop bans the chatroom
16:26 * VanessaE falls over, dead.
16:27 * NekoGloop unkicks the chatroom
16:27 NekoGloop wut nao? :D
16:28 OldCoder More recursion?
16:28 OldCoder What, meow?
16:28 Calinou recurse ALL the things
16:28 Calinou curse you OldCoder
16:28 NekoGloop Meow. :3
16:28 Calinou curse you OldCoder
16:28 Calinou there, re-cursed
16:28 OldCoder Ah
16:28 OldCoder I C
16:28 PilzAdam define x: {poke_chatroom(); x()}
16:28 PilzAdam x()
16:28 OldCoder Indeed
16:29 PilzAdam current state: 200000000000000000000 pokes
16:29 Calinou define x: x
16:29 NekoGloop for NekoGloop:bored() == true do poke_chatroom() end
16:29 OldCoder That is straightforward
16:29 OldCoder Depending on the language
16:30 PilzAdam define x: {poke_chatroom(); x() &}
16:31 NekoGloop my coed > all yours
16:31 Calinou my spelling > NekoGloop's
16:31 NekoGloop NekoGloop:bored() = true for NekoGloop:bored() == true do poke_chatroom() end
16:32 PilzAdam me > you all ^ #(you all)
16:32 NekoGloop me > pilzadam
16:32 PilzAdam nope
16:33 Calinou If NekoGloop == "bored" { print("WTF is the thing for printing in VB? anyway, VB sucks. trololol") }
16:33 NekoGloop not infinite loop, therefor inferior
16:35 NekoGloop did anyone else realise minetest.item_eat(...) can now replace the item? so rubenwardy's juices can return an empty glass?
16:36 VanessaE as long as that glass comes from my vessels mod ;)
16:36 NekoGloop .lol
16:37 NekoGloop and yes there is now a .lol file extension.
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16:42 VanessaE man I am so incredibly bored
16:42 VanessaE (and a little depressed)
16:42 PilzAdam im working on carts
16:42 VanessaE cool.
16:42 PilzAdam so my depression is greater than every number you can imagine
16:43 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3053 awesome mod
16:43 Calinou moved to mod releases :P
16:43 PilzAdam this f***ing cart dont want to climb this f***ing wall; f**k
16:44 RealBadAngel hi folks
16:44 khonkhortisan Calinou, without worldedit that would be very difficult to move
16:45 NekoGloop well then make sure you put it in the right place ;)
16:46 Calinou khonkhortisan: yeah 8)
16:46 RealBadAngel @calinou: for the adventure mode such mod isnt so good. but still nice
16:47 khonkhortisan Good for a community mine or large construction project
16:47 RealBadAngel good for creative mode
16:47 RealBadAngel or kinda
16:48 khonkhortisan Why would you need to store anything in creative?
16:48 RealBadAngel but not for dig build enjoy
16:48 NekoGloop ohai rba
16:49 RealBadAngel hi neko
16:50 RealBadAngel for example, i developed my single player world in minecraft for about half a year
16:50 RealBadAngel built automatic factories for almost everything
16:50 RealBadAngel some constructions took weeks to finish
16:51 RealBadAngel automatic storage was greatest project
16:51 khonkhortisan does bas080 come on here?
16:51 RealBadAngel that was fun to plan, build and then use it
16:52 RealBadAngel havin such stuff on a click, takes away whole fun
16:53 RealBadAngel its no longer machinery youre created, its a feature
16:53 RealBadAngel and thats imho is killing the gameplay
16:53 khonkhortisan VanessaE, yeah all it took was a link to reference the pull request and issue together
16:54 VanessaE cool
16:54 RealBadAngel but i guess different aged players can have different points of view
16:56 Jordach [17:42:07] <VanessaE> man I am so incredibly bored : PM me
16:56 khonkhortisan it works both ways, pull to issue, or issue to pull
16:57 RealBadAngel to pull or not to pull, that is the question
16:57 khonkhortisan it needs to pull, just to feel normal.
16:57 RealBadAngel then pull
16:57 khonkhortisan ^ addiction reference
16:58 RealBadAngel and tell the skulll to shut up
16:58 khonkhortisan the chess board dug stuff when it spawned
17:00 VanessaE To pull or not to pull - that is the question.  Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the bits and bytes of outrageous downloads, or to take archives against a sea of zip files, and by opposing extract them.
17:00 VanessaE *channel-wide groan*
17:01 khonkhortisan shakespeare isn't as bad as poe
17:01 * PilzAdam applauds to VanessaE
17:01 khonkhortisan We could put that on a website somewhere
17:02 VanessaE I don't have the creativity to rewrite the full Soliloquy :-)
17:02 NekoGloop put it on github, since she's referencing that
17:07 RealBadAngel hehhe
17:07 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, i was lookin at rubber tree
17:08 RealBadAngel and was wondering what i shall do now with bucket full
17:08 PilzAdam cook it in a furnace
17:08 RealBadAngel bucket
17:08 NekoGloop but we lose the bucket
17:09 PilzAdam not if you use a special furnace
17:09 RealBadAngel i could do that in alloy furnace
17:09 VanessaE can't furnaces use the replacements = {} construct?
17:09 PilzAdam VanessaE, nope, RealBadAngel yes
17:09 VanessaE damn
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17:09 RealBadAngel but still buckets are pain it the ass
17:09 RealBadAngel theyre not stackable
17:10 NekoGloop new topic: pilzadam's rubber trees suck. wait, that's not a new topic.
17:10 PilzAdam the player can get a lot of rubber when cooking one bucket
17:10 RealBadAngel bad idea
17:10 NekoGloop buckets should be reusable
17:11 RealBadAngel ive thought bout tree tap
17:11 RealBadAngel another tool
17:11 NekoGloop rubber bucket is stupidest idea every.
17:11 PilzAdam NekoGloop, shut up
17:11 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, they really do that this way
17:11 RealBadAngel with buckets
17:11 NekoGloop pilzadam, just because my mods are decent gameplay-wise? dont think so.
17:12 RealBadAngel btw its not bucket with rubber
17:12 RealBadAngel its bucket with caoutchouc
17:14 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, btw you have chosen very funny way to obtain it
17:15 RealBadAngel took me a while to get the point lol
17:15 NekoGloop why cant just harvesting the tree nodes have a chance of giving us raw rubber?
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17:17 T_A_N_K re
17:17 PilzAdam wb
17:18 RealBadAngel so?
17:19 RealBadAngel stick to buckets or new tool?
17:19 PilzAdam buckets
17:19 VanessaE idea.  Bucket of rubber -> bucket of cooked rubber, then return said bucket when the cooked stuff is used
17:20 VanessaE if you can't replace it at the smelt stage, fake it and replace it at the crafting/usage stage
17:20 RealBadAngel ok, but we do have 20 buckets full of caotchouc
17:20 VanessaE caotchouc ?
17:20 RealBadAngel buckets are non stackable
17:20 VanessaE redefine them.
17:20 NekoGloop just do a tree tap
17:20 RealBadAngel not mine tree
17:20 VanessaE override the existing bucket definition with a new one - identical to the old but with stack_max set properly.
17:20 VanessaE or whatever needs fixed at any rate.
17:20 RealBadAngel 16 could be just fine
17:21 NekoGloop vanessae: that will derp out the bucket; using a bucket will replace ALL buckets in that stack
17:21 NekoGloop trust me, i tried xD
17:21 RealBadAngel not rly
17:21 NekoGloop yeah it will
17:21 RealBadAngel override on use too
17:22 NekoGloop just do a treetap
17:22 khonkhortisan if buckets were stackable then there would be an empty stack, a lava stack, a water stack, and a rubber stack
17:22 RealBadAngel if adam will allow
17:23 PilzAdam do what you want; i just added the rubber tree because you requested is; everything else is up to you
17:24 RealBadAngel and the folks already liked it
17:25 PilzAdam who cares about folks?
17:25 RealBadAngel seen comments "ive found a rubber tree!!"
17:25 khonkhortisan is it safe to delete a branch after a merge?
17:25 PilzAdam i think so
17:26 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, welll we do all this stuff not just for ourselves
17:26 RealBadAngel but for the community
17:26 khonkhortisan I found out renaming a branch make me have to recreate the pull request
17:26 khonkhortisan *makes
17:27 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, but if *you* like it then someone else will like it too; personally i make all my mods the way i want them to be; and when somone doesnt like it he doesnt have to use the mod
17:27 NekoGloop who said you needed his permission? :l
17:29 khonkhortisan I fixed two things in two branches, so no matter which branch I use, something's still broken
17:29 NekoGloop then you're screwed ;)
17:30 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, true. but c55 told me my code is shit
17:30 RealBadAngel so im not sure any longer ;)
17:30 PilzAdam your code not the content
17:30 khonkhortisan Either the chess board can dig stuff when it spawns or the pieces aren't looking the right direction
17:30 PilzAdam btw: c55 told me my code is good
17:31 VanessaE I don't dare ask c55 what he thinks of my code generally speaking :-)
17:31 RealBadAngel dunno, he took the simplest part of my mod, where just definitons are, and called it shit
17:31 VanessaE (except he liked vessels enough to use it)
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17:31 PilzAdam my code was the TNT mod; and its pretty complex
17:31 iloveu wasssup
17:32 PilzAdam carts
17:32 VanessaE PilzAdam: ah
17:32 VanessaE so finally the TNT textures in my HDX pack will have some use ;D
17:32 RealBadAngel parts of my mod are pretty complex i do believe
17:32 PilzAdam not working carts >:(
17:33 RealBadAngel at least i shall credit some folks for their algorithms
17:33 iloveu VannesaE tell oldcoder to stop being a coward :) - LandMine
17:33 RealBadAngel i was never any good at graphs
17:34 RealBadAngel and now im using them
17:34 VanessaE ...
17:34 NekoGloop inb4 ban
17:34 OldCoder iloveu, I am kind of busy right now
17:35 iloveu sure you are buddy
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17:35 VanessaE bye bye.
17:35 VanessaE time to start knocking off whole class C's now.
17:36 * NekoGloop hides from banhammer
17:36 RealBadAngel :)
17:37 VanessaE I wonder how many here use webchat anyway?
17:37 VanessaE (and what celeron55 thinks of just banning that entirely)
17:37 PilzAdam XChat FTW
17:37 RealBadAngel oke doke. PilzAdam, the idea is to create two tools, treetaps, regular and powered one
17:37 OldCoder One step at a time. No need to rush.
17:37 RealBadAngel are you ok with the idea?
17:37 khonkhortisan how do I get Open Link in Browser to start firefox?
17:38 OldCoder RealBadAngel, I assume you're talking to VanessaE. It might be necessary though if real-life measures don't work.
17:38 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, sure
17:38 VanessaE khonkhortisan: settings -> Advanced -> URL handlers
17:38 RealBadAngel actually to PilzAdam
17:38 khonkhortisan I can add Open Link in Firefox there but Open Link in Browser still does nothing
17:39 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, that will be easier, no bucket problem, and more logical
17:39 VanessaE I think
17:39 RealBadAngel btw, i made machine able to harvest crops
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17:39 VanessaE otherwise check your xfce or gnome settings for 'preferred applications"
17:39 khonkhortisan If I create another Open Link in Browser it doesn't replace the other one, I just get two menu buttons
17:39 treehugger_ that wasnt very nice VannesaE :(
17:39 treehugger_ was kicked by VanessaE: treehugger_
17:39 VanessaE yes it was.
17:40 RealBadAngel with mesecons signal it will harvest alll the crops
17:40 NekoGloop i use webchat
17:40 VanessaE NekoGloop: you should look into getting a good irc client in case it comes to that.
17:40 NekoGloop ?
17:40 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDeeim14g7Q&amp;feature=plcp watch this
17:40 VanessaE I don't think anyone here, myself included, wants to lose you to such a ban.
17:41 VanessaE comes to that = comes to the point of banning the whole webchat.
17:41 NekoGloop i have icechat installed, it just sucks in comparison xD
17:41 khonkhortisan xchat, konversation, irssi, pidgin, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_clients
17:42 VanessaE I forgot about konversation
17:42 NekoGloop and half of those dont run on windows or arent free
17:42 VanessaE xchat, pidgin do.
17:42 RealBadAngel xchat is on windows
17:42 VanessaE pretty sure anyway
17:42 RealBadAngel pidgin too
17:42 VanessaE mirc is still free isn't it?
17:42 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, this vid is not new to me
17:42 RealBadAngel shareware
17:42 VanessaE good enough, get a crack for it :-)
17:43 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, i do have already reverse machine
17:43 RealBadAngel to plant
17:43 RealBadAngel those two makes automatic farms possible
17:44 PilzAdam Okay, after working for 6 hours on carts i can definitely say: There is no good and easy way to implement carts in lua. The current version is the best you can do in lua. So C++ coders: go to work!!!
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17:45 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, youre meaning the lags?
17:45 PilzAdam i mean the whole mod
17:45 RealBadAngel name the problem
17:47 PilzAdam look at the current carts mod a take everything that is ~= to MC's carts
17:47 NekoGloop rail switches?
17:47 NekoGloop cart stoppers?
17:47 RealBadAngel ive played with tubed items
17:47 NekoGloop the pickup box thingy
17:47 RealBadAngel and brought them to usable state
17:47 khonkhortisan Where can I get working tubes?
17:47 RealBadAngel seen "overload" video?
17:48 RealBadAngel khonkhortisan, im makin now in/out machines by now
17:48 RealBadAngel all the logic is done
17:49 RealBadAngel ive made over 600 items floatin through the tubes flawlessly
17:49 VanessaE khonkhortisan: RealBadAngel is hoarding the actual code that makes my pipeworks actually useful :-)
17:49 VanessaE (where "tubes" and "pipes" he mentions are my pipeworks mod)
17:50 RealBadAngel tubes are harder, so i get them 1st
17:50 Calinou PilzAdam: 99 nyancats if you can find a capable and available C++ programmer
17:50 RealBadAngel pipes logic will be simplyfied ver
17:51 VanessaE RealBadAngel: did we decide that outlet gratings weren't necessary anymore?
17:51 VanessaE if so I'm going to drop them from the mod
17:51 RealBadAngel no no
17:51 RealBadAngel shall stay
17:52 RealBadAngel meanwhile, if you could check for ANY object around with tubelike=1 and connect to it
17:53 RealBadAngel without invokin the same procedure on the other end
17:53 RealBadAngel just connect to such object
17:53 RealBadAngel and maybe provide function "update"
17:53 VanessaE mmmh
17:53 VanessaE I'll look into it
17:54 RealBadAngel if the object will be removed
17:54 RealBadAngel object will call it
17:54 VanessaE problem with connecting to objects other than tubes is the connection rules, as with the pipes
17:54 VanessaE not everything should connect from all sides, etc.
17:54 RealBadAngel i wont rotate them
17:54 RealBadAngel stick to binary rules i made
17:55 RealBadAngel ive found also the way to determine front and proper sides
17:55 RealBadAngel thanks to NekoGloop
17:56 NekoGloop hm?
17:56 RealBadAngel and it works
17:56 NekoGloop i did what now?
17:56 RealBadAngel screwdriver
17:56 RealBadAngel you have solved nasty problem for us
17:56 NekoGloop oooh, you made it dump n
17:57 RealBadAngel yeah, now i can easily say where the object face is pointing
17:57 RealBadAngel so i know the sides too
17:58 NekoGloop i see
17:58 RealBadAngel example is with node breaker
17:58 NekoGloop yup
17:58 VanessaE brb
17:58 RealBadAngel i rotated it and it works
17:58 NekoGloop you could also have looked at delayer
17:59 RealBadAngel you mean mesecons one?
17:59 RealBadAngel propably i should, but i had barely time to code my own stuff
17:59 NekoGloop yes
18:00 RealBadAngel so, the the prize is yours
18:00 RealBadAngel you made it possible
18:00 * PilzAdam wants a prize too
18:01 RealBadAngel join the team then
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18:01 Guy12 Hello
18:02 PilzAdam i dont like Technic mod
18:02 NekoGloop i didnt really do anything xD
18:02 PilzAdam Hello Guy12
18:02 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, why?
18:02 NekoGloop screwdriver was something i had worked on previously, but i just lost interest.
18:02 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, because i like MT to be RPG-ish
18:03 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, oh shut up you bastard. you made it
18:03 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, im also following this way
18:03 RealBadAngel dig build grow
18:03 NekoGloop pilzadam: i also want rpg elements; however, i want some things to make really awesome houses out of.
18:03 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, and it should be middle-age theme too
18:04 RealBadAngel nothin easy, all expensive
18:04 NekoGloop speaking of which, I'm still looking for someone to make a decent set of evil textures.
18:04 RealBadAngel well im a bit more modern lol ;)
18:05 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, but you can still go cornernote's way
18:05 RealBadAngel i pushed him to skyblock
18:05 RealBadAngel imho excellent idea
18:05 iqualfragile we could try and theme technic steampunk-style
18:05 NekoGloop well in order to make virtually anything useful in technic you have to find diamonds, at which point you kind of advanced to the idustrial stage.
18:06 RealBadAngel steampunk....
18:06 RealBadAngel love it
18:06 OldCoder <NekoGloop> speaking of which, I'm still looking for someone to make a decent set of evil textures.
18:07 RealBadAngel make awesome txt pack for it
18:07 OldCoder Is evil textures basically synonymous with "wicked good" ?
18:07 NekoGloop evil as in my evil things.
18:07 RealBadAngel steam machines
18:07 NekoGloop re: gloopblocks
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18:07 RealBadAngel and it gonna rock
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18:10 T_A_N_K HMMMMM
18:10 NekoGloop it's emptying out in here...
18:10 T_A_N_K why doesn't this work?
18:10 T_A_N_K minetest.register_chatcommand("/spawn", {
18:10 T_A_N_K params = "",
18:10 T_A_N_K description = "Teleport to the spawn point",
18:10 T_A_N_K privs = {},
18:10 T_A_N_K func = function(name)
18:10 T_A_N_K player:setpos(spawn)
18:10 T_A_N_K end,
18:10 T_A_N_K })
18:10 khonkhortisan did you try typing //spawn?
18:11 RealBadAngel missing some ,
18:11 T_A_N_K damn
18:11 T_A_N_K well that was the problem thank you
18:11 khonkhortisan how do you get player from function(name)?
18:11 PilzAdam minetest.get_player_by_name(name)
18:12 RealBadAngel all the functions are callbacks
18:12 NekoGloop tank: remove the / from the name of the command
18:12 T_A_N_K yes i know, i forgot the // in world edit
18:13 RealBadAngel i use the first call to define the owner
18:13 RealBadAngel ie player
18:13 RealBadAngel then store player name in meta
18:14 RealBadAngel for example laser shoot. i remember who shoot it
18:14 RealBadAngel then luaentity has this information
18:15 RealBadAngel so im able to give drops to certain player
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18:16 PilzAdam wb
18:16 VanessaE cable technician is here working on our connection
18:16 khonkhortisan what's wrong with it?
18:16 T_A_N_K so then i tried this
18:16 T_A_N_K minetest.register_chatcommand("spawn", {
18:16 T_A_N_K local player = minetest.get_player_by_name(name)
18:16 T_A_N_K params = "",
18:16 T_A_N_K description = "Teleport to the spawn point",
18:16 T_A_N_K privs = {},
18:17 T_A_N_K func = function(name)
18:17 T_A_N_K player:setpos(spawn)
18:17 T_A_N_K end,
18:17 T_A_N_K })
18:17 RealBadAngel is he having latets git on cables?
18:17 PilzAdam VanessaE, make it better or worse?
18:17 T_A_N_K how would i go about getting the player or any data from this?
18:17 VanessaE PilzAdam: he's still trying to sort it out
18:17 khonkhortisan local player = minetest.get_player_by_name(name) goes after func = function(name)
18:17 PilzAdam T_A_N_K, move the player = thing into the function
18:17 VanessaE RealBadAngel: dunno what the problem is yet - intermittent dropouts, slow connections to websites
18:17 T_A_N_K thank you
18:17 VanessaE cause unknown as yet
18:18 RealBadAngel VanessaE, do you have some WIFI?
18:18 VanessaE not any in use, no.
18:18 VanessaE strictly wired.
18:18 T_A_N_K this now gives me " attempt to call field 'get_player_by_name' (a nil value)"
18:19 T_A_N_K i'm just not understanding, as there is not function() thing
18:19 khonkhortisan try minetest.env:get_player_by_name(name)
18:19 T_A_N_K oh wait..
18:19 RealBadAngel player = {}
18:19 RealBadAngel then this
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18:20 PilzAdam T_A_N_K, https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1029
18:20 RealBadAngel i noticed that predefinition of table usage sorts out many problems
18:20 VanessaE brb
18:21 RealBadAngel without it i had many nil errors
18:21 khonkhortisan minetest.register_chatcommand("spawn", {
18:21 khonkhortisan params = "",
18:21 khonkhortisan description = "Teleport to the spawn point",
18:21 khonkhortisan privs = {},
18:21 khonkhortisan func = function(name)
18:21 khonkhortisan local player = minetest.env:get_player_by_name(name)
18:21 khonkhortisan player:setpos(spawn)
18:21 khonkhortisan end,
18:21 khonkhortisan })
18:21 RealBadAngel redefine player={} before
18:22 PilzAdam or check if player and player:is_player() then
18:22 khonkhortisan A node can call /spawn?
18:22 T_A_N_K well i did this
18:22 T_A_N_K minetest.register_chatcommand("spawn", {
18:22 T_A_N_K params = "",
18:22 T_A_N_K description = "Teleport to the spawn point",
18:22 T_A_N_K privs = {},
18:22 T_A_N_K func = function(player,name,pos)
18:22 T_A_N_K minetest.env:get_player_by_name(name)
18:22 iqualfragile there are several things about this channel i like: one of them is that no one fags around if someone pastes a bit of code
18:22 T_A_N_K player:setpos(spawn)
18:22 T_A_N_K end,
18:22 T_A_N_K })
18:22 T_A_N_K and it says: attempt to call method 'setpos' (a nil value)
18:23 T_A_N_K exactly
18:23 RealBadAngel yes
18:23 RealBadAngel define spawn={}
18:23 RealBadAngel then copy
18:23 RealBadAngel spawn.x=pos.x
18:23 RealBadAngel and so on
18:24 T_A_N_K i already have spawn as: spawn = {x = 0, y = 0, z = 0} in the init.lua
18:24 RealBadAngel pos.x=0
18:24 RealBadAngel pos.y=0
18:24 khonkhortisan it's saying that player doesn't have a :setpos() function
18:24 RealBadAngel pos.z=0
18:25 RealBadAngel i was fightin such shit too often
18:25 RealBadAngel you have to somehow redefine it
18:25 khonkhortisan func only gives you function(name, param) it doesn't give you (player, name, pos)
18:25 RealBadAngel for example pos1=pos doesnt work
18:26 T_A_N_K oh so param needs param = {pos} or something?
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18:26 khonkhortisan no
18:26 NekoGloop player = minetest.env:get_player_by_name(name)
18:26 khonkhortisan func = function(name, param)
18:26 khonkhortisan what I said, then what Nekogloop said
18:26 khonkhortisan then player:setpos(spawn)
18:26 T_A_N_K oh okay
18:27 NekoGloop and hopefully a end
18:28 RealBadAngel question is spawn is  a pos or somethin else
18:28 T_A_N_K it's a table
18:28 RealBadAngel pos is a table too
18:29 khonkhortisan spawn = {x = 0, y = 0, z = 0} <-- that should work, how you have it
18:29 NekoGloop also allow setting of the sapwn, maybe beds?
18:29 RealBadAngel that should make spawn.x spawn.y and spawn.z
18:30 RealBadAngel but dunno. lua is sometimes irrational
18:31 NekoGloop always* FTFY
18:31 khonkhortisan this works for me https://gist.github.com/3723788
18:31 RealBadAngel but LUA is Love U Always
18:32 RealBadAngel as in IRL hard to notice
18:32 RealBadAngel hehehe
18:32 Jordach RBA
18:32 Jordach no.
18:33 RealBadAngel i think so
18:34 RealBadAngel she loves you more?
18:34 RealBadAngel lucky you ;)
18:35 RealBadAngel ive come to such point. any new function i would like to use
18:36 T_A_N_K yay spawn works :D
18:36 RealBadAngel it takes hours of testing what are exactly the arguments
18:36 T_A_N_K thank you for the help
18:36 RealBadAngel strings, tables, types
18:36 NekoGloop tank: now make it read what the spawn for the player is
18:37 T_A_N_K no, i mean it all works lol
18:37 RealBadAngel API says sometimes somethin opposite to real needs
18:38 RealBadAngel or at least sayin somethin not obvious
18:38 T_A_N_K it should have examples in there
18:38 T_A_N_K that's what's screwing me over
18:38 NekoGloop ikr?
18:38 RealBadAngel i tried to explain the problem to c55
18:39 RealBadAngel than thexyz and c55 told me im shitty coder
18:40 RealBadAngel its insane imho reading all the time the api doc
18:40 RealBadAngel and still having no glue how the specific function wokrs
18:40 khonkhortisan nothing tells you it's env:function() instead of env.function()
18:40 PilzAdam you should read lua doc and api
18:41 thexyz yep
18:41 RealBadAngel talkin bout the devil
18:41 T_A_N_K admins should never say that
18:41 NekoGloop GLUE?
18:41 RealBadAngel hi thexyz
18:41 khonkhortisan mesecons can fix that problem
18:41 NekoGloop xD
18:41 khonkhortisan craft glue + function -> sticky function
18:41 RealBadAngel lol
18:42 RealBadAngel thexyz, sorry for my hard words lately, i were really pissed off
18:42 RealBadAngel once again, im sorry
18:43 NekoGloop sticky function + lua = gummed up code
18:46 RealBadAngel thexyz, hope you dont mind
18:47 NekoGloop i have no idea what properties a kalite-doped wafer should hve...
18:47 NekoGloop have*
18:47 RealBadAngel wait for some more
18:47 RealBadAngel i mean 2nd and 3rd tier
18:48 NekoGloop no i mean, what should it technically do?
18:48 NekoGloop I'm lost as to what chemical properties it would give xD
18:48 RealBadAngel hah
18:48 RealBadAngel i told ya
18:48 RealBadAngel it was "glooopish" ;)
18:49 NekoGloop xD
18:49 NekoGloop so i turn it into gloop? ;)
18:49 RealBadAngel dunno
18:49 RealBadAngel take a pick
18:50 RealBadAngel of your favorite
18:50 NekoGloop hm...
18:50 khonkhortisan screw U! http://www.global-trade.com.tw/images/Product/type_U_screw_12767S.jpg :P
18:50 RealBadAngel and divorvce with the rest
18:51 NekoGloop oh, and mesecon support-ish: make mesecon's silicon be cookable into silicon wafer.
18:51 RealBadAngel makin just numbers of ores and tools is not a way to make a good mod
18:51 khonkhortisan mod cross-compatibility improves the game as a whole
18:51 RealBadAngel i realize that
18:52 RealBadAngel thats why i added mesecons to the deps
18:52 RealBadAngel and started to allowin my machines to be controlled by mesecons
18:52 NekoGloop just ores? gloopores is supposed to add some unique ones xD (re: kalite heals you, talinite glows, etc.)
18:52 NekoGloop toolsizes was just so that workbench had something of a use.
18:53 RealBadAngel you know what im talkin about
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18:53 RealBadAngel you made just another "moreores"
18:53 NekoGloop no
18:53 RealBadAngel yes
18:53 khonkhortisan maybe
18:53 NekoGloop moreores (no longer) has a healing ore
18:53 T_A_N_K it would be cool if minetest didn't say what it was doing like "issued command /BLAH" or +Server "radda radda" instead it just printed command feedback or player's text
18:53 NekoGloop neither does it have a glowing block
18:54 RealBadAngel so pick your unique ones
18:54 RealBadAngel hmmm
18:54 NekoGloop also, desrt ores
18:54 NekoGloop desert*
18:54 RealBadAngel YES
18:54 NekoGloop dont you dare call gloopores another moreores
18:54 RealBadAngel thats somethin unique
18:54 NekoGloop alatro only generates above sea level.
18:55 RealBadAngel make another one
18:55 NekoGloop arol is green, and green is awesome :D
18:55 RealBadAngel listen now
18:55 NekoGloop :l
18:55 RealBadAngel find a way to use it
18:55 T_A_N_K if i do minetest.serialize(table) can i write that to a .lua file and then load it back up and deserialize it?
18:55 RealBadAngel to make crops, trees grow instatnly, on use
18:56 * khonkhortisan avoids turning tables into strings
18:56 PilzAdam T_A_N_K, you can write to any file
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18:56 T_A_N_K yay
18:56 khonkhortisan Yes, that's what worldedit's //save does
18:56 PilzAdam wb VanessaE
18:56 VanessaE and I'm back
18:56 RealBadAngel khonkhortisan, sometimes its neccesary
18:56 VanessaE tech swapped out the modem.  appears to have been a bad power supply.
18:56 RealBadAngel and solved the situation?
18:56 VanessaE so far
18:57 RealBadAngel so praise them
18:57 OldCoder Hi. There is an issue that won't be discussed in public. But Freenode staff are involved now. I have promised to expand the original document. Please PM me if you have logs or information. VanessaE wb.
18:57 T_A_N_K THEN WHY are you talking about it here? D:
18:57 khonkhortisan If we already know about it, more information is being asked.
18:57 NekoGloop realbadangel: i see no problem since only 3 ores are actually added below sea level, and only 3 above (2 on normal land, 1 on deserts). only one ore below sea level is common, and that one heals you
18:57 OldCoder T_A_N_K, there is no contradiction and you know it. I have not discussed the matter but alluded to it briefly.
18:58 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, ive got a proposal for ya
18:58 NekoGloop listening
18:58 T_A_N_K oh okay man
18:58 T_A_N_K hope it works out
18:58 OldCoder If people do not wish to help, they do not need to do so. But Freenode staff have asked for information. I don't apologize for interrupting to mention this.
18:59 OldCoder That is all
19:00 VanessaE ahh that's better.  One peanut butter and jam sandwich down the hatch :-)
19:00 NekoGloop xD
19:02 T_A_N_K someone should write down that you need the "param" in func = function() in the minetest.register_chatcommand if you want to do stuff with players
19:07 VanessaE gah!  confounded F10 bug
19:07 T_A_N_K it will crash the client and server
19:07 T_A_N_K i noticed when you do
19:07 T_A_N_K player:getpos(test)
19:07 T_A_N_K then
19:07 T_A_N_K print(test)
19:07 khonkhortisan print can't print tables
19:07 T_A_N_K oh snap
19:07 T_A_N_K so print test[1]?
19:07 PilzAdam print(dump(test))
19:07 VanessaE you have to iterate through all entries in the table and print those
19:08 khonkhortisan dump?! I was doing print("("..pos.x..", "..pos.y..", "..pos.z..")"
19:10 VanessaE you can do that?
19:10 VanessaE well shit
19:10 VanessaE I didn't know of that either.
19:11 T_A_N_K who wants to help make a real community server mod
19:11 * PilzAdam is a lua god
19:11 * NekoGloop is a lua noob
19:11 T_A_N_K like... "Minetest bucket" lol
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19:14 VanessaE ah bucket all anyway.
19:14 VanessaE :)
19:14 Keegann hello
19:14 NekoGloop xD
19:16 rubenwardy bye guys
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19:17 Keegann OldCoder I am sorry
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19:22 OldCoder Keegann, no more in public
19:23 Keegann why
19:23 OldCoder Misael is stalking Vanessa and me. Freenode staff are involved. Enough. No more in public.
19:23 OldCoder This channel is for a fun game. Not for the rest of it.
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19:23 OldCoder LAD, wb
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19:35 khonkhortisan huh. My glass chessboard is on wikipedia.
19:35 NekoGloop cool
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19:37 VanessaE bbl
19:39 OldCoder <khonkhortisan> huh. My glass chessboard is on wikipedia.
19:39 OldCoder Really? I like chess sets. Link possible?
19:40 khonkhortisan It's just a picture at the bottom of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chessboard
19:40 NekoGloop i have a 7 in 1 game set with chess, checkers, dominoes, and... 4 more :D
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19:43 Jordach OldCoder PM
19:43 OldCoder Jordach, k
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19:46 xander345 hi
19:46 khonkhortisan hello
19:46 xander345 i was hoping somone here could help me  with irrlicht
19:47 xander345 anybody?
19:48 PilzAdam not me, sry
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19:50 Jordach Keegann; PM me
19:50 M13Coder ok
19:50 T_A_N_K i haven't coded in 2 months, i think i've become code retarded
19:51 NekoGloop well y u no code for two months?
19:51 T_A_N_K because i've been busy
19:51 NekoGloop :D
19:54 xander345 basically this is my problem here is the code: #include <irrlicht.h>  using namespace irr;  using namespace core; using namespace scene; using namespace video; using namespace io; using namespace gui;  #ifdef _IRR_WINDOWS_ #pragma comment(lib, "Irrlicht.lib") #pragma comment(linker, "/subsystem:windows /ENTRY:mainCRTStartup") #endif   int main() { IrrlichtDevice *device = createDevice( video::EDT_OPENGL, dimension2d<u32>(640
19:54 xander345 fucl
19:54 NekoGloop my god.
19:54 NekoGloop that linespam
19:54 NekoGloop there should be a law
19:54 NekoGloop and if there is...
19:54 NekoGloop i jsut broke it too
19:55 khonkhortisan but what's the error?
19:55 xander345 this is the code: http://pastebin.com/bmrYqKSc it gives me the error of segmentation because of the  guienv->addStaticText(L"Hello World! This is the Irrlicht Software renderer!", rect<s32>(10,10,260,22), true); i'm in linux btw
19:55 PilzAdam we are MT players in this channel and not c++ coders
19:56 khonkhortisan and lua modders too
19:56 NekoGloop also epic face people
19:58 Jordach xander345; is suggest you look at the channel #minetest-delta
19:58 Jordach or #mintest-dev IF you wise and wish to PULL REQUEST.
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20:39 khonkhortisan Someone unplugged the power
20:43 * PilzAdam got to sleep
20:43 PilzAdam bye
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20:43 Octupus hell
20:43 Octupus ello
20:44 Octupus does any1 know that commands the set creative of a server
20:46 OldCoder Octupus, Hi
20:47 Octupus YAYAYAY
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20:57 Octupus hello again
21:01 T_A_N_K that's it
21:01 T_A_N_K i'm creating a better-api github
21:01 T_A_N_K whoever wants to contribute can
21:06 NekoGloop ooh, me, me, me! Pick me!
21:07 Octupus NO PICK ME
21:07 Octupus idk what that is lol
21:07 T_A_N_K everyone
21:07 T_A_N_K api, for mods
21:07 * NekoGloop hits octupus with a pickaxe
21:07 Octupus oh
21:07 NekoGloop you have been picked
21:07 T_A_N_K need examples how-tos
21:07 NekoGloop :D
21:07 Octupus ouch
21:08 Octupus where u gonna place me now neko
21:08 Octupus maybe on some stone
21:08 Octupus or under a tree
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21:08 * NekoGloop throws octupus into a trash can
21:08 Jordach NekoGloop keep it down
21:08 Jordach people are coding in here
21:09 NekoGloop what?
21:09 * Octupus has been pulverized
21:09 NekoGloop so am i
21:09 Jordach c++?
21:09 NekoGloop lua
21:09 NekoGloop much worse
21:09 Jordach bleh
21:09 Jordach LUA is horrible for syntax
21:09 T_A_N_K YOU'RE HORRIBLE FOR SYNTAX
21:10 NekoGloop I'M AWESOME SAUCE FOR SYNTAX
21:10 NekoGloop side of meme sauce optional
21:10 Octupus can any1 help me make my windows cp have a better peformance
21:10 NekoGloop octupus: get winxp
21:11 Octupus i got a lenovo windows 7 i think it is
21:11 Jordach NekoGloop i run windows xp
21:11 Jordach and compile minetest on it
21:11 NekoGloop winxp ftw
21:11 Jordach no.
21:11 NekoGloop anything newer is shit
21:11 Octupus so can any1 help me
21:11 Jordach windows 98
21:11 Jordach with NT code support
21:12 Octupus can any1 help me directly me to a software or something?
21:12 Octupus for a faster performance cp
21:13 Jordach Octupus uninstall crap that you dont need and delete un needed files
21:14 Octupus ohh i will try thatt
21:14 NekoGloop dont remove windows components though
21:14 NekoGloop that is the stupidest thing you can do
21:14 Octupus is adobe neccesary
21:15 NekoGloop I'm sure you dont need an adobe brick [/smartasswhoknowswhatadobeisirl]
21:15 Octupus just deleting and uninstalling for now
21:16 Octupus adobe the program
21:16 NekoGloop i know
21:16 Octupus is it nessesary for a computer?
21:17 Jordach using google chrome?
21:17 Octupus no internet explorer
21:17 Jordach then get chrome
21:17 NekoGloop I'm using chrome xD
21:17 Octupus ok
21:17 Jordach flash, pdf and others come supported without adobe extensions
21:17 Octupus brb in a min and a half
21:17 NekoGloop only because one website is horribly outdated and IE cant run it.
21:17 thexyz Octupus: here's windows cleanup tool http://www.debian.org/
21:18 Octupus thanks xyz
21:18 thexyz np
21:18 NekoGloop XD
21:18 NekoGloop debian is for noobs
21:18 Jordach thexyz - in russia, debian installs you
21:19 Octupus debian takes long to dload
21:19 tysonman joined #minetest
21:20 T_A_N_K https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/Better-Minetest-API have a field day
21:20 NekoGloop octupus: it's a ninja OS
21:20 Octupus every1 landmine is tysonman
21:20 tysonman Yah
21:20 tysonman Lol
21:20 tysonman So?
21:20 thexyz fail
21:20 Octupus so any1 wwith privs for the irc ban him
21:20 tysonman How so?? Lol
21:21 tysonman I got in how is it fail thexyz?
21:21 thexyz T_A_N_K: you mean better api = no api?
21:21 thexyz VanessaE:
21:21 tysonman Lol
21:21 T_A_N_K check now
21:21 tysonman Nooooooooooooooo
21:21 tysonman Hahhahaha
21:22 thexyz is there any changes?
21:22 T_A_N_K check basic_facts.txt
21:23 T_A_N_K time to start chopping this thing up
21:23 thexyz any changes from lua_api.txt?
21:23 Exio lol
21:23 Exio nice tool thexyz
21:24 tysonman Octupus why u mad bro?
21:25 Octupus left #minetest
21:25 T_A_N_K i have learned something:
21:25 T_A_N_K this will take weeks
21:25 Jordach sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me
21:25 tysonman True jordach
21:26 Jordach guess what
21:26 Jordach the more one hides, the quicker he will be found
21:26 tysonman I'm not hiding lol
21:27 Jordach does not matter
21:27 Jordach i now have a list of the HMA vpn IP's
21:27 Jordach all 32000+
21:27 tysonman Cool story bro its not the only vpn I gto :)
21:28 Jordach most vpns use the same ips
21:28 tysonman Not really lol
21:28 Jordach a-level block = real ip
21:28 tysonman Anyhow why are y'all hating?
21:28 Jordach because you are scum. thats the simplest i can put it.
21:28 tysonman How so?
21:29 * Jordach rolls 600000000+ page list
21:29 tysonman I'm not the one stalking kids like oldcoder
21:29 Jordach vpns WILL run out
21:29 tysonman So jordach why are YOU hatin?
21:30 tysonman And no they won't ;)
21:30 OldCoder tysonman, About that... I talked to the Assistant Principal. It won't work.
21:30 OldCoder Also to the family. Already.
21:30 OldCoder They gave me the names and numbers for the rest.
21:30 tysonman I don't beleave u lol
21:30 OldCoder They have your name.
21:30 tysonman That's cool
21:30 * OldCoder shrugs
21:30 OldCoder It is no great concern what you believe or not. And we have business in PM.
21:31 OldCoder You PMd *me* remember?
21:31 tysonman Yeah I'm still waiting for u to respond there with wat I asked
21:31 T_A_N_K the api was written by smart people, now all the dumber peoples (me) can't not don't underget it
21:31 Jordach tysonman - logs
21:31 OldCoder tysonman, and you are distracting me with nonsense here
21:31 Jordach logs can;
21:31 Jordach be used on a fire
21:32 Jordach be used to incriminate
21:32 Jordach made into charcoal
21:32 T_A_N_K trains man
21:32 T_A_N_K trains
21:32 tysonman I'm shaking jordach
21:32 NekoGloop oh good idea for my charcoal mod ;)
21:32 Jordach ineffective
21:32 NekoGloop :D
21:32 Jordach try your best
21:32 Jordach ANDROID PHONE USER
21:32 tysonman Lol
21:33 * Jordach breaks tysonman's cellphone with a dwarven axe
21:33 tysonman Ohhhh nooo!
21:33 Jordach jordach 1 - LM - 0
21:33 tysonman Sure bro i:-)
21:33 NekoGloop Me - >9000
21:34 tysonman So jordach what do u think of this stalking keegan situationj?
21:35 tysonman If u were him would u be ok with some dde on the intrrwebs calling ur school and parents?
21:35 Jordach -8889
21:35 T_A_N_K wait a second, oldcoder is stalking keegan?
21:35 Jordach = 1
21:35 Jordach T_A_N_K
21:35 Jordach no.
21:35 T_A_N_K how did he get his info?
21:35 T_A_N_K _why_?
21:35 tysonman Causd he's wierd
21:35 Jordach check messages
21:35 tysonman And I dunno
21:35 Jordach not here
21:36 Jordach via PM
21:36 T_A_N_K oldcoder is - ignore
21:36 tysonman So u would be ok with it? For some stranger to call ur parents and say u need therapy?
21:36 tysonman Jordach
21:37 NekoGloop tyson, you're the one who needs therapy. these are the last words on the subject.
21:38 tysonman Neko only speak when ur spoken to kid
21:38 VanessaE who are you tysonman?
21:38 * VanessaE has returned.
21:39 tysonman Just wondering on irc
21:39 T_A_N_K oh, tyson is landmine
21:39 NekoGloop lm
21:39 tysonman Lol
21:39 tysonman Thanks guys
21:39 NekoGloop there's only one way we'll forgive you. When you're dead.
21:39 tysonman Sureu will ;-)
21:40 Jordach VanessaE i could do with an auto op
21:40 tysonman Damm
21:40 tysonman was kicked by VanessaE: tysonman
21:41 VanessaE the more he shows up, the more I'm gonna kickban his ass.
21:41 Jordach +1
21:41 Jordach VanessaE since youre not around
21:41 Jordach i can be able for op
21:41 VanessaE I was off looking at houses.
21:42 * NekoGloop is lowering his IQ-- i mean watchiing pewdiepie
21:43 VanessaE Jordach: I'll add you to the autoop list if I can figure out how to do it :-)
21:44 Jordach VanessaE google
21:44 sfan5 VanessaE: /cs autoop add jordach
21:44 sfan5 it should be similar to that
21:45 sfan5 oh and can you give me autoop too?
21:45 Jordach i know my acc is registered
21:46 T_A_N_K this ip adress is in several blacklists in mexico and america
21:46 T_A_N_K https://www.google.com/search?q=189.191.71&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a#hl=en&amp;sugexp=les%3B&amp;gs_nf=1&amp;tok=Ykwpw7zSSBvKbpRlJtEjUA&amp;pq=189.191.71&cp=11&gs_id=kc&xhr=t&q=189.191.71&pf=p&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=pcz&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&sclient=psy-ab&oq=189.191.71+&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=5df0f37c24dbec51&biw=1280&bih=884
21:47 Jordach T_A_N_K 189.191.71.96
21:47 Jordach to be more presice
21:47 sfan5 T_A_N_K: have you triend the new mc snapshot
21:47 sfan5 ?
21:47 T_A_N_K yes
21:47 VanessaE sfan5: I don't think I can do that for you - you're "unaffiliated"
21:47 T_A_N_K sfan5 will you help build up minetest super server essentials?
21:48 sfan5 VanessaE: thats just my cloak
21:48 sfan5 T_A_N_K: not now
21:48 Jordach VanessaE - who needs a cloak?
21:48 T_A_N_K ok
21:49 VanessaE hm..
21:49 Jordach everyonme
21:49 Jordach wait
21:49 Jordach 189.191.71.96 = is a webpage
21:50 VanessaE doesn't look like I can do it at *all* actually.
21:50 VanessaE I think c55 is the only one who can manipulate that setting
21:50 VanessaE but I can do that.
21:50 Octupus joined #minetest
21:51 Octupus hi guys now i got xchat
21:51 group joined #minetest
21:51 VanessaE Octupus: excellent.
21:51 Octupus so the unspeakable person cant disturb me anymore
21:51 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/yp9OF.png
21:51 Jordach thats lms ip
21:52 VanessaE Jordach: one of many evidently
21:52 Octupus NOOOOOOO
21:52 Jordach no
21:52 Jordach but it shows a odd 403 webpage
21:52 Jordach which an android phone normally never has
21:52 Jordach wait
21:52 Jordach idea
21:52 Octupus i exited my downloads and debian didnt finish
21:52 VanessaE Octupus: just resume it
21:53 Octupus ohh Lol
21:53 Octupus how u resume my downloads
21:53 VanessaE depends on how you initiated them :-)
21:53 Octupus nvm i found it
21:54 Jordach nessa /msg chanserv aop #minetest jordach
21:54 Jordach invalid
21:54 Octupus be back in 7 mins
21:56 Jordach haha
21:56 Jordach auto op works
21:56 Octupus i wodner if my red thingy works now
21:56 Jordach VanessaE re op me
21:56 Jordach or
21:56 Octupus OldCoder,Test
21:56 Jordach ./msg chanserv flags #minetest jordach +O
21:56 Octupus nope doesnt work
21:57 sfan5 VanessaE: did jordach get autoop?
21:58 VanessaE [09-14 17:57] >chanserv< flags #minetest jordach +O
21:58 VanessaE [09-14 17:57] -ChanServ- You are not authorized to execute this command.
21:58 VanessaE sorry guys :-/
21:58 Jordach damn it
21:58 * Jordach waits for net split
21:58 VanessaE at least I can do that much.
21:58 sfan5 i want op too
21:58 VanessaE drop yer cloak :-)
21:58 sfan5 why?
21:58 sfan5 i can't do that
21:59 VanessaE for all I know you're really landmine in disguise :-)
21:59 Jordach exactly
21:59 Jordach i dont use on for that reason
21:59 Octupus sfan isnt landmine
21:59 Octupus becase sfan never leaves the irc
22:00 Jordach hold on
22:00 T_A_N_K i will tell if sfan5 is real
22:00 T_A_N_K why did jeija leave blockplanet?
22:00 * Jordach does drumroll
22:00 VanessaE because it's a dead project?
22:00 Octupus LOL
22:00 VanessaE :)
22:00 OldCoder Octupus, Test back
22:00 Octupus a few secs till debian is finished
22:00 sfan5 T_A_N_K: write to me on facebook
22:01 * VanessaE <-- consummate smartass :D
22:01 Octupus how u do the red thigny coder
22:01 OldCoder Misael has left for now. I need a break. Red Thingy?
22:01 T_A_N_K it is, we just need to update it back to this version
22:01 VanessaE Octupus: simply saying your name is usually enough
22:01 Octupus yes
22:01 VanessaE the 'red thingy" is your client's auto-highlight
22:01 Octupus VanessaE
22:01 VanessaE I have mine set to turn yellow
22:01 Octupus didnt work
22:01 VanessaE like that.
22:01 VanessaE worked for me
22:02 VanessaE Octupus: you don't see it, I do, just as I don't see your nick turn red if I highlight you
22:02 Octupus debian is finished
22:02 Octupus ohhh
22:02 VanessaE it is?  Did netcraft confirm it? ;)
22:02 Octupus usee the red thingy
22:02 T_A_N_K sfan5 is real
22:02 Octupus how can i see mines?
22:03 VanessaE Octupus:  dig down a ways?
22:03 OldCoder Oh
22:03 VanessaE bring some torches and wood?
22:03 VanessaE ;)
22:03 Octupus lol
22:03 OldCoder Octupus, It is about the client program you use. I don't think the web gateway will do it.
22:03 sfan5 VanessaE: i'm still waiting for op
22:03 OldCoder Guys, I need a break but I will return in a bit
22:04 VanessaE sfan5: drop your cloak.
22:04 Octupus ok
22:04 Octupus im using xchat coder
22:04 sfan5 VanessaE: why? tank confirmed that i' not landmine
22:05 NekoGloop joined #minetest
22:05 T_A_N_K hmm
22:05 VanessaE hey NekoGloop *random highlight*
22:05 NekoGloop Lol
22:05 sfan5 wow! ipv6
22:05 Jordach sfan5 me too
22:05 VanessaE [09-14 17:58] * VanessaE gives channel operator status to Jordach
22:06 VanessaE you're already opped you schmuck :-)
22:06 Jordach \o/
22:06 Jordach sfan5 dont try either
22:06 sfan5 VanessaE: i can't drop my cloak, because freenode.net is down and  need to read  the faq
22:06 sfan5 Jordach: try?
22:06 Jordach google cache
22:06 VanessaE sfan5: or you could just sign on with a regular irc client like I did>
22:07 T_A_N_K it is not down :o
22:07 sfan5 VanessaE: my ip is the ip of minetest.ru because thexyz provides a bouncer for me
22:08 VanessaE just sign in with a normal IRC client from a normal IP address then.
22:08 sfan5 wait
22:08 T_A_N_K this is like the pressure room
22:08 T_A_N_K bumbum
22:08 T_A_N_K bum bumbum bum bummm
22:08 VanessaE I doubt quite strongly that c55 will allow any kind of auto-op or similar otherwise
22:08 sfan5 T_A_N_K: hamachi doesn't like websites with ip 5.*.*.*
22:09 thexyz VanessaE: why don't you trust @minetest.ru?)
22:09 Jordach http://www.wikihow.com/Get-a-Cloak-on-IRC
22:09 Jordach sfan5 ^
22:09 VanessaE thexyz: not minetest.ru, but his cloak that's the issue.  Why he doesn't trust to show minetest.ru on channel, well..ask him ;)
22:09 thexyz oh, i see now
22:10 VanessaE from my end all I see is ~sfan5@unaffiliated/sfan5
22:10 Jordach sfan5 is all about hiding
22:10 sfan5 no
22:10 sfan5 i used the cloak when i didn't have a bounceer
22:11 VanessaE why are you hiding behind a bouncer?
22:11 VanessaE "hiding" firguatively that is
22:11 Jordach sfan5 - i show mine because im too lazy, heck, half of this room dont use a cloak
22:11 VanessaE figuratively*
22:11 sfan5 stop asking, i already asked in #freenode some to remove my cloak
22:11 Jordach okay
22:11 T_A_N_K this is like a witch hunt
22:12 T_A_N_K bum bum
22:12 * Jordach sits and chills
22:12 sfan5 :/
22:12 T_A_N_K bum bum
22:12 T_A_N_K bum bumbum bum bummmmmmmmmmmmmmm
22:12 Jordach T_A_N_K : lol
22:12 sfan5 if i reqeust a cloak removal they are not able to cloak me again
22:12 Octupus whats a cloak
22:13 Jordach Octupus - something clever
22:13 sfan5 Octupus: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
22:13 Octupus whats it do
22:13 sfan5 joined #minetest
22:13 VanessaE there.  see?
22:13 Jordach how hard was that
22:13 VanessaE that wasn't so hard now was it :-)
22:13 T_A_N_K QUICK! SOMEONE WRITE DOWN HIS IP!
22:13 sfan5 Jordach:
22:13 T_A_N_K lol
22:13 Jordach </sarcasm>
22:14 sfan5 T_A_N_K: just resolve sfan5.dyndns.org to an ip
22:14 sfan5 <Jordach> how hard was that
22:14 sfan5 i wont get a cloak again
22:14 sfan5 that was the price
22:14 Jordach oh darp.
22:14 sfan5 :(
22:14 sfan5 well, i need to sleep now
22:15 sfan5 good night
22:15 Jordach me too
22:15 VanessaE you could have just signed on without the bouncer.
22:16 VanessaE *facepalm*
22:18 sfan5[iPod] joined #minetest
22:18 T_A_N_K i will never learn to not overload myself
22:21 Jordach p4FEB2ED4 = hex ip address
22:22 Jordach MiJyn; whos that person i see on google chat?
22:22 Octupus jorach u ready for the google chrome thingy
22:22 Jordach why
22:22 Jordach it takes 3 mins
22:22 Octupus ohhh
22:22 Octupus nvm then
22:22 Jordach click installs done
22:22 Jordach well
22:23 Jordach installer -> downloads -> installs -> runs google chrome
22:24 Octupus im using google chrome now
22:27 sfan5[iPod] Jordach: whats landmines ip?
22:27 Jordach http://189.191.71.96/
22:27 sfan5[iPod] .....
22:28 Jordach its a phone config via html
22:28 Jordach best i got
22:34 sfan5[iPod] Jordach: maybe someone could scan the ip with nmap
22:35 Jordach sfan5[iPod] getting nmap
22:41 Octupus joined #minetest
22:43 Jordach_2 joined #minetest
22:43 Jordach_2 damn connection
22:48 Jordach better
22:48 Jordach uh oh
22:49 T_A_N_K wat
22:50 Jordach my connection died a few secs ago
22:51 Jordach sfan5[iPod] ill send you the logs from nmap
22:55 * Jordach dislikes this silence
22:56 NekoGloop Shh
22:58 theTroy joined #minetest
22:58 LAD joined #minetest
22:59 Jordach_2 joined #minetest
23:05 Jordach i need some sleep
23:05 Jordach OldCoder; have a good evening
23:07 MiJyn <Jordach> MiJyn; whos that person i see on google chat?
23:07 MiJyn ???
23:14 SpeedProg joined #minetest
23:16 T_A_N_K hello mijyn
23:25 frogcrush joined #minetest
23:26 T_A_N_K hmm
23:27 T_A_N_K is getpos an object reference?
23:28 NekoGloop Yes, api is good for telling you that much.
23:30 T_A_N_K yes
23:30 T_A_N_K all i'm getting is init.lua:4: attempt to call method 'getpos' (a nil value)
23:31 T_A_N_K from this simple little :
23:31 T_A_N_K minetest.register_on_punchnode(function(pos, node, puncher, pos, player)
23:31 T_A_N_K local player = puncher:get_player_name()
23:31 T_A_N_K test = player:getpos({x,y,z})
23:31 T_A_N_K minetest.chat_send_player(player, "test")
23:31 T_A_N_K end)
23:31 NekoGloop Lol
23:31 khonkhortisan why is pos in there twice?
23:31 NekoGloop Just do puncher:getpos
23:31 T_A_N_K idk, i'm kind of burnt out trying to catch up on all the new things
23:31 T_A_N_K ok
23:32 khonkhortisan what you're missing is the difference between the player object and the player name, and what you can do with one that you can't do with the other
23:32 khonkhortisan Once you get that you're good
23:34 T_A_N_K that would be very helpful api info
23:34 T_A_N_K i fixed it with this
23:34 T_A_N_K minetest.register_on_punchnode(function(pos, node, puncher, name)
23:34 T_A_N_K local player = puncher:get_player_name()
23:34 T_A_N_K minetest.env:get_player_by_name(player):getpos()
23:34 T_A_N_K minetest.chat_send_player(player, "test")
23:34 T_A_N_K end)
23:34 T_A_N_K that one line could ruin someones hour or so
23:37 khonkhortisan register_on_punchnode doesn't have that fourth name argument, and you're not storing getpos() anywhere
23:37 T_A_N_K yea i know, it would be very helpful to have it by default
23:39 T_A_N_K i'm trying to use it to test a way to get people's position into a string, then written to a file, then loaded up, in the simplest easy to modify way
23:39 khonkhortisan line 1: puncher is the person's object. line2: You get player, the person's name. line 3: Then you get the person's object from the person's name, then getpos() from the object. line 4: You send a message to the person using their name.
23:39 T_A_N_K see? that's the kind of info that would have been useful
23:40 khonkhortisan minetest.env:get_player_by_name(player):getpos() can be replaced with puncher:getpos() because you already have the person's object.
23:41 T_A_N_K now i added in this line minetest.pos_to_string(test) but it's saying  attempt to index local 'pos' (a nil value)
23:41 khonkhortisan there's a pos_to_string?
23:41 T_A_N_K yes
23:41 khonkhortisan oh, cool.
23:41 T_A_N_K I'm just not sure how it works, there's very little info, no examples
23:42 NekoGloop pos_to_string should be objectref
23:50 khonkhortisan ambience is a completely different feel to the game
23:58 T_A_N_K hmm
23:58 T_A_N_K it isn't

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