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00:00 VanessaE hrm
00:01 VanessaE the only way I see that wouldn't confuse me is to throw everything except for my work directory, re-clone master to a new location, then apply my changes from the work directory manually
00:01 VanessaE then commit the result back to your online repos
00:01 VanessaE and delete the work directory and old/confused clone
00:02 VanessaE (unless the work dir contains other stuff you need to keep of course)
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00:12 khonkhortisan cy1, you can update worldedit to get the new //move
00:19 VanessaE khonkhortisan: what did you settle on for the aqutoplace algorithm for those crosswires and junctions?
00:23 khonkhortisan When a wire is placed, the function spreads in four straight lines from the source. It checks whether there are three connections, and if there are, crosses the wire. If there aren't, it places an insulated wire on the direction that would connect both ends. If the wire was removed instead of added, the function is uncrossing and says that the direction it came from doesn't connect, making it seem like there's less connections t
00:23 khonkhortisan han three, the required amount for crossing. I think that sort of sums it up.
00:24 VanessaE nice
00:26 VanessaE is there any case for "curved" (X <-> Z bent) insulated wires?
00:26 khonkhortisan no
00:26 VanessaE ok, didn't think so.
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00:26 VanessaE trying to think of other stuff we need that I can't code :D
00:27 khonkhortisan easiest thing to do would be to manually place plus, t-junction, and corner insulated wire.
00:28 NekoGloop_ well that wouldnt be a hard concept
00:28 VanessaE yeah
00:28 VanessaE just thinking of those folks who might expect autoplacement.  I got lots of "do these turn on their own?" comments when I was first writing pipeworks
00:29 VanessaE so I try to think a little further ahead now
00:29 khonkhortisan I didn't get the grates to do anything
00:29 VanessaE they only connect vertically
00:29 khonkhortisan I figured that out
00:29 VanessaE that is, you gotta put a pipe above them
00:30 VanessaE but they're still useless until RealBadAngel gets his flow code done :)
00:30 khonkhortisan what works, then?
00:30 VanessaE at present?  you can place them. :-)
00:31 khonkhortisan what about the other kind of pipes?
00:31 VanessaE the tubes?
00:31 khonkhortisan yeah
00:31 VanessaE I thin RBA's pretty much got that working
00:31 VanessaE he just hasn't released the necessary patches
00:31 NekoGloop_ note he hasnt released anything for at least two weeks now
00:32 VanessaE yeah I know.  he's of the mentality that if it isn't 110% working, it stays on his hard disk.
00:34 NekoGloop_ 110%... good luck with that xD
00:34 khonkhortisan it should be on an online branch
00:34 khonkhortisan I don't understand worldedit's spiral
00:34 NekoGloop_ he has a github
00:35 NekoGloop_ he dont use it like jeija does
00:36 NekoGloop_ what is the name for red lightstone that's on?
00:36 VanessaE lightstone_red_on ?
00:37 khonkhortisan mesecons_lightstone:^
00:37 NekoGloop_ thank you
00:37 NekoGloop_ wha...
00:38 VanessaE who...?
00:38 NekoGloop_ it gave me off red lightstone...
00:38 khonkhortisan on red lightstone drops off red lightstone
00:38 VanessaE afaik all of the 'on' stuff does that in
00:39 NekoGloop_ ...
00:39 khonkhortisan you'll have to power it if you want it to stay on
00:39 VanessaE you hacker, you ;)
00:40 NekoGloop_ actually it doesnt say that
00:40 NekoGloop_ it just says "red lightstone"
00:40 VanessaE oh, well I'll fix that real quick.......
00:40 VanessaE :D
00:40 NekoGloop_ however I'm currently on a server that may or may not have an outdated version
00:41 VanessaE This is mesecons we're talking about.  If it was installed more than 10 minutes ago, it's outdated :D
00:41 NekoGloop_ did you know that 1+2+2+1+1+2=9? (12/21/12)
00:41 khonkhortisan is it possible to do away with increasing active_block_range for large machines?
00:42 VanessaE heh
00:42 VanessaE khonkhortisan: no
00:42 khonkhortisan wah
00:42 NekoGloop_ mesecons = 10 mins later, outdated. technic = 5 years later, still latest version
00:42 VanessaE unless c55 figures out a way to increase the speed of the server to compensate for a larger default
00:43 khonkhortisan I should've waited on merging my branch, it took longer than 10 mins to make a commit, in which time I now need to merge into my branch
00:43 VanessaE or if he adds something to let a mod change that default.
00:44 khonkhortisan anything that uses abms should fly around and follow you. Look behind you, and you see a blinkybat with a wire leash going back to the machine
00:45 VanessaE now that said
00:45 NekoGloop_ lol
00:45 VanessaE didn't RBA say he figured out a workaround for that?
00:45 khonkhortisan something about node's timers
00:45 VanessaE some sort of "ghost players" that get left in every mapblock the mod uses?
00:45 khonkhortisan *nodes'
00:45 khonkhortisan haven't heard of it
00:45 NekoGloop_ vanessae: i proposed he place dummy players, but havent heard anything since
00:46 VanessaE oh ok
00:46 VanessaE heh
00:46 VanessaE he must be exceptionally busy lately..  haven't seen him around that much
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00:49 M13 hello
00:49 khonkhortisan you can have the worldedit priv without having the give priv
00:49 M13 hello
00:49 VanessaE hey M13.
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00:50 khonkhortisan hello
00:50 LAD hi
00:50 VanessaE hi
00:50 M13 hey Vanessa
00:50 M13 how are you today
00:51 NekoGloop_ khon: ikr
00:51 VanessaE I'm okay
00:52 M13 vanessa
00:52 VanessaE hm?
00:52 M13 is it possible
00:52 M13 to make
00:52 M13
00:53 M13 a mod that lets you drive a Car / Truck around?
00:53 VanessaE not at present
00:53 M13 ok
00:53 VanessaE the old pushable blocks/monorail mod can do something similar,
00:53 khonkhortisan it looks like lilypads have an even distribution
00:53 VanessaE but the API fo rmoving the player doesn't allow it to move smoothly enough for it to work well
00:54 M13 ok so its buggy
00:54 VanessaE khonkhortisan: odd, they're supposed to be quite random.  I'll work on that
00:54 VanessaE (I should apply some perlin noise, limit where stuff can grow
00:55 khonkhortisan and just as I'm trying to get a screenshot it turns to nighttime
00:55 wowiamdiamonds )
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00:55 wowiamdiamonds sorry those parentheses were annoying me
00:55 VanessaE /time 6000
00:55 VanessaE :-)
00:55 khonkhortisan I don't have /time, I just have /worldedit
00:55 VanessaE wowiamdiamonds: sowwy (()()((()))()
00:55 VanessaE ;)
00:55 VanessaE khonkhortisan: that command is part of the game.
00:56 NekoGloop_ VanessaE: )
00:56 NekoGloop_ just one
00:56 VanessaE hehe
00:56 khonkhortisan you forget the smiley that closed it (()()((()))() ;)
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00:57 VanessaE http://www.xkcd.com/541/
00:57 VanessaE apropos. :-)
00:57 khonkhortisan huh. lilypads do burn on lava.
00:57 NekoGloop_ but that's a new line
00:59 khonkhortisan the paranthetical reference (funny paranthetical reference) :)
00:59 NekoGloop_ ERROR: unknown symbol near <eof>
00:59 VanessaE Some Exception: illegal
01:01 NekoGloop_ Some Exception: your IP has been recorded. You were trying to access file C:/fbi_mainframes. Prepare to die.
01:01 khonkhortisan mainframes is at the toplevel?
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01:01 khonkhortisan you shouldn't have talked about the fbi, you got  the cia on our tail
01:02 NekoGloop_ lol
01:02 NekoGloop_ technically they're on you; you did the action.
01:03 NekoGloop_ this spleefing arena is going to look so epic
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01:08 NekoGloop_ what is something that is walkable and not flammable?
01:08 VanessaE cobble
01:08 khonkhortisan cobble?
01:08 VanessaE :)
01:08 VanessaE derp? :D
01:08 NekoGloop_ not walkable i mean
01:08 khonkhortisan water
01:08 VanessaE mesecons
01:09 khonkhortisan lava
01:09 NekoGloop_ water wouldnt work, I'm protecting a lava pool
01:09 NekoGloop_ mesecons are perfect though
01:09 NekoGloop_ protecting, as in lavacooling is on the server
01:09 NekoGloop_ if the lava isnt touching an air node, it doesnt cool
01:10 NekoGloop_ but i still want the lava to be there, as i'm making a spleef arena
01:10 khonkhortisan so you dig through, it touches air, and it cools
01:10 NekoGloop_ server has creative mode; griefing is pointless
01:11 khonkhortisan tv says "she sung acapello"
01:13 khonkhortisan Go inside trapstone while holding a tube. It turns black.
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01:15 VanessaE khonkhortisan: does it do that regardless?
01:15 VanessaE yup, it's supposed to do that
01:16 NekoGloop_ what's the name of glass skylights from homedecor?
01:17 VanessaE homedecor:skylight
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01:20 VanessaE changed your mind>
01:20 VanessaE ?>
01:20 Keegann no
01:20 * VanessaE rips the > key off her keyboard
01:20 Keegann I'm on my iPod
01:20 VanessaE oh ok
01:22 NekoGloop_ my spleef arena.. is done!!!
01:22 Keegann I need some mod ideas
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01:22 khonkhortisan I want to play! I'm bad at fighting
01:22 NekoGloop_ ok
01:23 VanessaE Keegann: http://minetest.net/forum/search.php?action=show_user_topics&amp;user_id=1580
01:23 VanessaE :)
01:24 Keegann yea so
01:25 VanessaE Keegann: all of my mods are epic.  install them if you don't have them already. :-)
01:25 Keegann I want to make my own but I have no ideas
01:26 VanessaE ah
01:26 VanessaE you need inspiration eh
01:26 Keegann yep
01:28 NekoGloop_ hm...
01:28 NekoGloop_ i got nothin
01:28 VanessaE I look to the real world for ideas when I come up dry like that
01:31 NekoGloop_ ok, who wants to SPLEEF!?!?!
01:31 VanessaE khonkhortisan: btw I was thinking of making a change to the insulated junctions to make them look like they're "welded" with a minimal junction 'bump'.
01:32 NekoGloop_ no
01:32 VanessaE NekoGloop_: pass.
01:32 NekoGloop_ that would make them look like they're connected
01:32 VanessaE NekoGloop_: they are.
01:32 VanessaE T-junctions
01:32 VanessaE not crosswires
01:33 NekoGloop_ i still dont understand why you want t-junction insulated
01:33 VanessaE becasue you sometimes need to bring wires together without affecting their neighbors or neighboring devices
01:37 VanessaE I hatewhen he does that.
01:38 Keegann tell me if it says Keegann blah blah blah
01:38 VanessaE (it was probably an "oh shit mom's coming! *close!*" moment :D
01:38 Keegann ACTION is a test
01:38 VanessaE [09-10 21:38] <Keegann> ACTION is a test
01:38 VanessaE try /me
01:38 Keegann fudge
01:38 Keegann I'm on iPod
01:38 VanessaE /me usually works everywhere
01:38 VanessaE it's a pretty universal command
01:39 Keegann /me is a test
01:39 VanessaE damn
01:39 Keegann now?
01:39 VanessaE no :-/
01:39 khonkhortisan /me without the space first
01:39 * khonkhortisan like this
01:39 Keegann how the yet do you do the me command on iPod
01:39 VanessaE good question
01:40 khonkhortisan type it?
01:40 VanessaE khonkhortisan: I think his irc client lacks support for the command
01:40 Keegann no
01:40 Keegann it's irchon
01:44 Keegann who has a IRC app for iPod or iPhone?
01:45 VanessaE not I, sorry
01:45 VanessaE I don't even own any idevices
01:45 VanessaE I think nekogloop uses colloquy or something like that
01:51 tripod there are a few ios free irc apps
01:51 tripod all terrible
01:51 tripod but i dont use i devices
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01:56 khonkhortisan ime
01:57 khonkhortisan iyou ius iwe iyall iall ialloyall igroups ipeople
01:57 khonkhortisan imyself
01:57 VanessaE heh
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01:57 M13Coder Test
01:58 VanessaE test.
01:58 M13Coder It work
01:58 VanessaE seems to
01:58 M13Coder On a different app
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01:59 M13Coder test
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02:00 khonkhortisan woah 3d animated torches
02:00 VanessaE where?
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02:00 VanessaE 3dforniture has those but I don't care too much for them
02:01 khonkhortisan yeah it's from that
02:01 M13Coder test
02:01 VanessaE wrong command
02:01 VanessaE that was a notice,
02:01 VanessaE you want action
02:03 M13Coder Werid
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02:03 M13 can someone help me with this error?
02:03 M13 http://pastebin.com/trmQw658
02:04 M13 its Minetest-Classic
02:04 VanessaE NekoGloop:  because sometimes you need one wire to cross over another, even to the point of having one junction right above another.  at least one of them has to be insulated to prevent unwanted connections.
02:04 VanessaE (and you were off for about 30 mins)
02:05 NekoGloop Sorry
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02:05 NekoGloop xD
02:05 khonkhortisan NekoGloop, I'm here, I don't see much
02:05 Keegann good night
02:05 VanessaE M13: that log looks incomplete, but try disabling the texture atlas
02:06 NekoGloop Go over in the direction of the water, the closest to the spawn
02:06 khonkhortisan this black circle?
02:06 NekoGloop Go across the water, then you should see the arena
02:06 M13 i did Vanessa
02:06 NekoGloop VanessaE: Its not seeing his config file
02:06 M13 and thats all of the Debag and Terminal
02:06 VanessaE M13: if you did, you wouldn't be seeing all those "Adding..." lines :-)
02:06 VanessaE oh yeah, now I see
02:07 Keegann good night
02:07 Keegann y'all
02:07 VanessaE night keegan
02:07 khonkhortisan oh I see it
02:07 VanessaE M13: did you edit the right .conf file?
02:07 NekoGloop The giant steel block arena
02:07 NekoGloop It has a watervator
02:08 M13 what do i add to the conf
02:08 NekoGloop Unfortunatly i had to switch to my ipad
02:08 VanessaE M13: it's not a matter of what, but where is the conf file
02:08 M13 there is none it didnt make one
02:08 VanessaE are you sure you created one in /home/chris/Desktop/minetest-classic  ?
02:08 M13 yep checked
02:09 VanessaE try cd'ing to that directory first and then run the game
02:09 M13 ill add one fro
02:09 khonkhortisan I use ~/.minetest/minetest.conf
02:09 M13 ok
02:09 VanessaE M13: so cd /home/chris/Desktop/minetest-classic/; bin/minetest
02:09 VanessaE see if it creates one then
02:09 M13 khonkhortisan: you are running the installed .edb package of minetest
02:10 M13 ok
02:10 khonkhortisan I'm running git/cmake-compiled version, I don't know what .edb is
02:10 VanessaE khonkhortisan: he means .deb
02:10 VanessaE I run a self-compiled copy also (in fact I have two for different purposes)
02:10 khonkhortisan khonkhortisan.rpm
02:11 M13 Vanessa its : cd /home/chris/Desktop/minetest-classic/bin && ./minetest
02:11 khonkhortisan one copy for cheating, the other copy for fighting cheating :P
02:11 VanessaE khonkhortisan:  minetestc55_0.4.3-1-trilinear_amd64.deb  :-)
02:11 VanessaE M13: no
02:11 khonkhortisan bin/minetest
02:11 VanessaE M13: so cd /home/chris/Desktop/minetest-classic/; bin/minetest
02:11 VanessaE you want to stay in the game's top level directory
02:12 khonkhortisan Do I have anyone to fight?
02:12 M13 Vanessa
02:12 VanessaE khonkhortisan: cheating eh?  heh
02:12 M13 its not running
02:12 M13 the command is : so cd /home/chris/Desktop/minetest-classic/; bin/minetest
02:12 khonkhortisan NekoGloop, what team am I on?
02:12 VanessaE M13:  nonono
02:12 NekoGloop Neither
02:12 VanessaE M13:  don't put the 'so" in there.
02:13 M13 ok i tried that
02:13 khonkhortisan red or blue?
02:13 VanessaE cd /home/chris/Desktop/minetest-classic/ ; bin/minetest
02:13 NekoGloop The 'corners' are just for organizing the actual fight easier
02:13 M13 o ok
02:13 khonkhortisan no fair, you're invisible
02:13 M13 it did the same thing
02:13 NekoGloop But as i said, i'm on my ipad
02:13 VanessaE M13: what error?
02:13 M13 same error
02:13 NekoGloop So i cant go on the server
02:13 VanessaE M13: make a new pastebin please - from the very end of the log
02:13 M13 ok
02:14 khonkhortisan okay I'll just leave my character here when I rejoin
02:14 VanessaE NekoGloop: haven't figured out how to compile MT for ipad yet? ;)
02:14 NekoGloop Lol
02:14 NekoGloop You cant
02:14 NekoGloop Not without jailbreak anyhow
02:15 khonkhortisan void the warranty to run free non-os sofware. That makes sense.
02:15 M13 Vanessa : its not recording in the Debug
02:15 M13 Here is the Terminal error
02:15 VanessaE pastebin it.
02:16 M13 http://pastebin.com/Qg9dbrjK
02:16 M13 there it is :P)
02:16 VanessaE minetest: nv20_state_fb.c:50: get_rt_format: Assertion `0' failed.
02:16 VanessaE video driver problem.
02:17 M13 weird
02:17 VanessaE it ain't finding your config because you edited the wrong file, but that aside this seems like a bad/missing video driver
02:18 M13 it does that with minetest 0.3.0 and older
02:18 M13 others work
02:19 VanessaE *shrug* I dunno then
02:20 khonkhortisan what should I make out of mesecons?
02:20 VanessaE khonkhortisan: a CPU? :)
02:22 khonkhortisan I would'nt know where to start
02:23 NekoGloop Look at some random minecrap video
02:23 khonkhortisan ^ is what I'm doing
02:26 VanessaE how about that escalator I saw once?
02:26 VanessaE I think we have all the stuff needed to make it work anyway
02:27 khonkhortisan how do I move the player? hold the jump button?
02:27 VanessaE dunno
02:27 VanessaE I got the impression it was automatic
02:28 khonkhortisan afaik mt pistons don't move the player
02:28 VanessaE hm
02:32 VanessaE how much can a piston push?
02:32 NekoGloop The fastest way to get to the top of a world in minecrap is via a lot of pistons. Even flying at max speed.
02:32 * khonkhortisan goes to check
02:32 VanessaE how about a player piano?  use cobble and glass for the "paper roll" and regular torch + solar panel for the detector
02:33 khonkhortisan ooh that's better than what I thought of for playing a song
02:33 VanessaE use pistons to keep the "roll" moving
02:33 khonkhortisan then I need a track changer
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02:34 khonkhortisan even if pistons can only push so far, you just make a little bend and it goes further
02:34 VanessaE right
02:34 VanessaE I guess you'll need about 15 tracks (8 notes plus however many drums/etc there are)
02:36 khonkhortisan 15
02:37 khonkhortisan I'll build in the air
02:37 VanessaE *nod*
02:38 VanessaE oh for fanciness:  wire up each note block with a mesecons lamp :-)
02:38 VanessaE so the lamp flashes when the note plays :)
02:39 NekoGloop Heh no
02:41 VanessaE aw :(
02:44 khonkhortisan why is the default note one above the lowest one?
02:45 VanessaE good question
02:45 NekoGloop Its not
02:45 khonkhortisan it is for me
02:45 VanessaE I've never actually used a noteblock in practice, just used them in some home decor recipes  :-)
02:45 NekoGloop Its a trick played by the almighty gods of lua, also known as jeija, rba...
02:46 VanessaE haha
02:46 khonkhortisan 12 notes, including black
02:46 VanessaE we put the randomness there to test your faith, or some bullshit :D
02:46 khonkhortisan Speaking of which, they could be colored based on their note, too
02:47 NekoGloop Did i say you were a god(dess) of lua? ;)
02:47 VanessaE khonkhortisan: not a bad idea; there's a little space in the lower left corner of the texture that holds a "note" symbol.  That could easily be overwritten with a little colored square like you were thinking of doing with those µC hash diagrams
02:47 VanessaE NekoGloop: no, but *I* did :D
02:48 khonkhortisan I only wanted the hashes because I didn't have the crossed wire
02:49 khonkhortisan when nodeblocks are put into industrial production there will be a demand for full piano range
02:50 VanessaE "industrial production" hehe
02:51 VanessaE seems to me one should be able to set the note and instrument by a right click/formspec
02:51 khonkhortisan putting glass in between the solar panel and torch makes the torch be too far away
02:51 VanessaE that'll certainly be needed if we expand it beyond whatwe have now
02:52 VanessaE use a light stone
02:52 VanessaE or a super glow glass
02:52 khonkhortisan using lightstone I can mark out the black notes
02:52 NekoGloop Or a talinite block from gloopores
02:52 NekoGloop It's the brightest possible
02:53 * khonkhortisan can't tell the difference between a mesecon torch and a power plant
02:53 VanessaE super glow glass is fairly bright
02:53 VanessaE about 2x that of a torch anyway
02:53 VanessaE khonkhortisan: upgrade
02:53 VanessaE power plants now have a plantlike base around them
02:54 khonkhortisan I know, I still picked up the torch anyway
02:54 khonkhortisan even after reading it said torch
02:54 khonkhortisan dark lightstone is dark
02:55 VanessaE turn it on :-)
02:55 khonkhortisan dark lightstone is darker than a torch
02:57 VanessaE super glowglass is bright
02:57 NekoGloop I was thinking of revamping minitest...
02:57 khonkhortisan lava works
02:57 VanessaE haha
02:58 VanessaE hell of a light source :D
02:58 khonkhortisan now my piston system is dangerous if I do it wrong
02:59 khonkhortisan no, I was wrong, somehow I removed the glass first
03:00 NekoGloop Lol
03:00 khonkhortisan If I used cobble and air, it would slow the song down to wait for the lava to flow
03:01 VanessaE ok, super glowglass is bright enough
03:01 VanessaE just tried it
03:02 khonkhortisan then I wouldn't need the torches
03:03 VanessaE perfect - it's *just* bright enough to light a solar panel through glass but not one that's adjacent
03:03 VanessaE so you can stack 'em sideways without any dividers
03:03 VanessaE that's adjacent in the next track that is
03:04 khonkhortisan So should sgg be part of the track or above it?
03:04 VanessaE I placed it above
03:06 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_3007991927.png
03:07 khonkhortisan what time is the middle of the day?
03:07 NekoGloop Noon
03:07 khonkhortisan what /time?
03:07 NekoGloop Oh you mean minetest
03:07 NekoGloop 12000
03:07 khonkhortisan yes, I'm still on-topic
03:07 VanessaE oh, be sure you cover the reader/sensor array with cobble or something to keep the daylight out
03:08 khonkhortisan OW I broke the piano
03:08 NekoGloop Lol
03:09 VanessaE be back in a bit
03:10 NekoGloop Ok
03:12 khonkhortisan oh switch ties are insulated
03:12 khonkhortisan I mean button ties
03:15 khonkhortisan now that I don't get. Can light go through noteblocks?
03:15 NekoGloop Probably nit
03:15 NekoGloop Not*
03:15 khonkhortisan I know it can't go through dirt
03:15 NekoGloop Check if sunlight_propogates is true
03:19 khonkhortisan drawtype = "allfaces_optional"
03:19 NekoGloop Uhm...
03:20 NekoGloop What does that do, exactly?
03:20 khonkhortisan I'm in a nodeblock room and it's still light
03:20 NekoGloop nodeblock?
03:21 NekoGloop What sorcery is this?!
03:21 khonkhortisan a dirt room makes it dark
03:21 khonkhortisan noteblock
03:21 khonkhortisan sourcery would be drawtype = "meshlike",
03:22 khonkhortisan I could make it without changing the noteblock
03:38 NekoGloop God i'm bored
03:39 VanessaE back
03:39 NekoGloop Lol
03:42 VanessaE So what news did I miss in the last 30 minutes? :D
03:43 khonkhortisan solar panels can still activate noteblocks even though light goes through noteblocks
03:44 VanessaE huh
03:44 VanessaE odd
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03:47 VanessaE maybe because they used to be transparent at one time
03:47 VanessaE the old texture used to just be a circle on an empty canvas
03:48 khonkhortisan want fiber? all it takes is a mesecon and a button
03:48 VanessaE eh?
03:48 VanessaE oh the receivers
03:48 VanessaE heh
03:50 khonkhortisan 20 notes total
03:51 VanessaE now the question is what tune to play :-)
03:52 khonkhortisan and how to change tracks and how to change the length of the track
03:52 VanessaE heh
03:52 khonkhortisan obviously the nyan song will be in there
03:52 VanessaE HAHAHAAH
03:53 VanessaE you sure mesecons is fast enough for that?
03:53 khonkhortisan no haven't started it up yet
03:56 VanessaE actually I was thinking either Für Elise or Music Box Dancer
03:56 khonkhortisan I don't know the second one
03:56 khonkhortisan I'm putting in an all-note test
03:56 VanessaE yes you do :-)
03:57 VanessaE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N_tmH6y7ng
03:58 khonkhortisan is it played slower when it's in the music box?
03:58 VanessaE heh, no.
03:58 VanessaE that's the normal speed of the tune
03:58 VanessaE oh I GOT IT.
03:58 VanessaE this is minetest.
03:58 VanessaE so,
03:59 VanessaE "Open a New Window" from MAME
03:59 khonkhortisan sudo zypper install mame
04:00 VanessaE hahaha!
04:00 VanessaE wrong MAME :-)
04:00 NekoGloop Make a noteblock studio-esque program
04:00 khonkhortisan a wired piane would be faster than a mechanical one
04:01 NekoGloop Yes it would
04:01 VanessaE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v648wU0x63k
04:01 khonkhortisan now I want vertical wires again
04:02 khonkhortisan voice synthesis!
04:03 VanessaE if you can pull that off...
04:08 khonkhortisan /time 4500
04:09 VanessaE wrong window :-)
04:09 khonkhortisan sunrise
04:12 khonkhortisan I need a trigger for two fast delayers
04:14 VanessaE um
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04:15 VanessaE wb wow.
04:16 wowiamdiamonds hi
04:16 VanessaE khonkhortisan: not sure what to use :-)
04:19 VanessaE I had though of maybe putting a click track in with the actual music tracks\
04:19 VanessaE but I figured that would just make the timing too sloppy
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04:28 wowiamdiamonds ok, so i want to find out if something is even. how would i check if something is an integer (if x/2 is an integer, then...)?
04:29 wowiamdiamonds o wait i think i figured it out derp
04:29 VanessaE maybe if (x/2 == math.floor(x/2))
04:29 wowiamdiamonds exactly
04:30 VanessaE take out the /2 if you just want to check for an integer itself
04:33 hmmmm too bad Lua is dynamically typed
04:35 VanessaE I suppose so
04:35 hmmmm the notion of 'even' only applies to integers, but anything numeric is stored as a floating point number in Lua
04:35 VanessaE (I come from a background where variable types were limited to string, 16 bit signed int, and something like 40-bit float :-) )
04:39 celeron55 Lua's 64-bit floating point numbers can be exact integers up to 2^52
04:40 VanessaE wow, you're up late
04:40 celeron55 i'm up early
04:40 celeron55 using only floating point in a scripting language is a very good idea in my opinion
04:40 * NekoGloop gives celeron a cookie
04:40 VanessaE ok early then
04:40 celeron55 javascript does t hat too
04:41 celeron55 that*
04:41 celeron55 and not that early even, it's jut 7:42
04:42 celeron55 +s
04:42 VanessaE khonkhortisan: it just occurred to me that another thing mesecons could use in lieu of movestones would be a conveyor belt
04:42 VanessaE c55: ah, I was off by an hour
04:44 VanessaE (though it won't do any good in this player piano design)
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04:53 NekoGloop I'm sooooooooo boredddddddd... :(
04:54 VanessaE so build something :)
04:54 NekoGloop Ipad still lolz
04:55 celeron55 the jobs' content consuming machine
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04:55 celeron55 to use it as intended, buy an app that makes fart noises from the app store
04:56 NekoGloop Sadly, there is one.
04:56 celeron55 then enjoy your brains shrinking
04:56 NekoGloop The only thing i use this for is youtube and irc away from my comp
04:57 khonkhortisan angry birds
04:57 NekoGloop Beat it
04:57 khonkhortisan three stars?
04:57 khonkhortisan all variations of the game?
04:57 NekoGloop All levels, three stars, eagle as well.
04:57 NekoGloop All games as well.
04:57 khonkhortisan never seen the eagle
04:57 NekoGloop I have waaaay too much time on my hands lol
04:57 khonkhortisan yes a conveyor belt would be an improvement but that's what pipeworks is for
05:00 VanessaE true
05:00 NekoGloop I want the frame motors from redpower
05:01 NekoGloop Not the frames, per se, just the motors
05:03 khonkhortisan what's a good way to start a two-delayer clock?
05:04 NekoGloop With a gentle bump
05:04 VanessaE khonkhortisan: a one-shot timer from a µC
05:04 khonkhortisan a button would be a gentle bump, what it needs is a swift kick
05:04 VanessaE but something needs to start that, too
05:05 NekoGloop Use creative mode </incredibly unhelpful>
05:05 VanessaE khonkhortisan: why not use the one-µC clock I made?
05:06 khonkhortisan two delayers terminate with both sides on
05:07 NekoGloop Does pushing gravel with a piston make it fall
05:07 VanessaE no
05:07 VanessaE at least when I last tried, it didn't
05:07 NekoGloop I see
05:08 NekoGloop Well you a liar then because i remembered i made a desert sand fall infinitely with a normal up piston just after i said that :D
05:08 VanessaE heh, ok
05:08 VanessaE well when I tried it, it lied to me :)
05:08 NekoGloop Lol
05:09 NekoGloop Maybe the side pistons dont?
05:09 VanessaE it said "Fuck you, this sand stays right here, 3m above the ground."
05:09 VanessaE :-)
05:09 VanessaE actually it was only 1m up :-)
05:09 NekoGloop But any node kinda falls with pistons.
05:09 khonkhortisan haha my tictactoe had a win lockout
05:09 NekoGloop They're kinda awkward.
05:10 * VanessaE tries again
05:11 khonkhortisan redstone only appears above sea level
05:11 * khonkhortisan hides
05:11 VanessaE hey!  it works now
05:11 NekoGloop What?
05:11 khonkhortisan but a movestone still drops gravel halfway between two nodes
05:12 NekoGloop That's not even a valid statement for kalite...
05:12 khonkhortisan I thought I had the wrong ore
05:12 NekoGloop That's alatro
05:13 VanessaE NekoGloop: a regular piston does cause a stack of sand to fall
05:13 VanessaE musta been a glitch before
05:13 NekoGloop Awesome
05:13 NekoGloop Now i can destroy sand towers with a single piston and a blinky plant
05:14 khonkhortisan we could have better machines if pistons could move pistons
05:14 NekoGloop Ikr
05:14 NekoGloop No, only sticky pistons need to...
05:15 khonkhortisan you have a square of pistons moving pistons around, then those pistons move stuff
05:15 NekoGloop Ok fine
05:16 khonkhortisan last I tried that it crashed. But that was multiple 10-minute revisions ago.
05:16 VanessaE khonkhortisan: they can
05:16 VanessaE the problem is gettign a signal to the piston that was moved
05:16 VanessaE it's possible but unstable
05:17 VanessaE try this:  place a sticky piston next to a regular one.  Turn it on.  Now place a wire next to the piston that was moved.  Now turn the first piston off and the wire will remain in that "connected" position.  The you feed a signal to it when the time is right
05:18 khonkhortisan I have a similar problem with autocrossing wires, the regular wires don't always connect right
05:19 NekoGloop The problem is getting the extended arm of the second piston in the line to disappear
05:19 khonkhortisan haha disconnected piston
05:19 khonkhortisan cool I can make a machine that drops piston arms
05:19 khonkhortisan aw I can't push them
05:20 NekoGloop You cant break them either
05:20 khonkhortisan mesecons version of clouds
05:20 khonkhortisan now I just have to get two next to each other
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05:30 NekoGloop G'night
05:34 khonkhortisan /set air doesn't recalculate light
05:35 VanessaE khonkhortisan: use //dig
05:35 VanessaE khonkhortisan: also the sensor array *is* going to need separated channels - too much light leaks around the opaque materials for side-by-side channels to work
05:36 khonkhortisan I'm scrapping mechanical, it needs three states to move
05:40 wowiamdiamonds is there any sort of documentation whatsoever for mapgen.lua? I don't even know what I'm doing, sooo lost.
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05:48 khonkhortisan a stack of insulated wire doesn't last very long
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08:33 Dan68 I just commented on wikipedia with 5 sources that it appears no one referenced. Bit suprised that the wiki editors didn't come across them, but they are probably stuck using google & are trapped inside a search bubble. My comment is at the bottom of this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Minetest
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09:47 celeron55 Dan68: i don't know if any of those are "something that are not blogs" or "something that just repeats an original announcement" (those are pretty much the things wikipedia doesn't trust, and it is very understandable; anyway, somebody should actually cite some relevant information from those
09:47 celeron55 s/;/)/
09:48 celeron55 in the article itself
09:48 celeron55 the deletion is based on the article, not the discussion
09:49 Dan68 yep
09:50 RealBadAngel hi celeron55, have you been playin with those swappin nodeboxes function anymore?
09:50 Dan68 Well, it seems like the argument is always "there are not enough refrences that this is noteworthy" or "this article is a stub/unmaintained"
09:50 celeron55 RealBadAngel: there's the second version of the branch
09:50 celeron55 RealBadAngel: not more than that
09:51 celeron55 RealBadAngel: http://minetest.net/packages/nightly/minetest-0.4.3-4a11323-meta_set_nodedef-win32.zip
09:51 RealBadAngel ok, i will try it. have you made win build for that?
09:51 celeron55 i don't know if you have tried it
09:51 RealBadAngel oh, you already answered before i asked lol
09:51 RealBadAngel thanks :)
09:51 celeron55 the tool in the minimal game will make any block into stairs
09:51 Dan68 celeron55: wikipedia is a terrible place though, it has become a cesspool of deletionists & power trippers. Not worth putting too much effort into it
09:52 celeron55 you might want to copy it to minetest_game and test it in a new world
09:52 celeron55 Dan68: i think wikipedia is just fine; they do those things for a reason
09:52 RealBadAngel sure. i just finish alloy furnace and will go play with it
09:52 celeron55 Dan68: it is perfectly true that minetest isn't particularly popular
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09:53 Dan68 celeron55: it does have a fair bit written on it though
09:53 celeron55 and mostly the lack of news is because there haven't been huge sensational releases
09:53 celeron55 all happens so gradually nobody has any news
09:53 Dan68 celeron55: mhmm
09:53 RealBadAngel but it happens constantly
09:54 Dan68 there are a few articles beyond what I psted out there if ya dig.
09:54 celeron55 or, well, there are news all the time, but they're like "added the function foo to API and some unused items"
09:54 RealBadAngel take the game half a yr back and now
09:54 Dan68 lolyep celero55
09:54 celeron55 Dan68: yeah, but they're very unknown blogs and that
09:54 celeron55 they don't matter to wikipedia, again for a reason
09:54 Dan68 celeron55: eh, it depends
09:54 celeron55 some of them *are* more than that though
09:55 RealBadAngel so we just need to look for a ways to make the game a bit more known
09:55 Dan68 celeron55: you can make an argument if you have at least 3 good refrences, which we do have between those 5 I posted
09:56 Dan68 2 of those were just regurgitating blogs that added a little bit of oppinion
09:56 celeron55 Dan68: i posted one site too (a very considerable one); altough i don't understand anything of them because they're russian 8)
09:56 Dan68 lolyep
09:56 celeron55 anyway, the thing to do is reference information in the article properly from them
09:56 celeron55 otherwise the article is going to go
09:57 celeron55 that way maybe not
09:57 Dan68 yep
10:20 wei2912 celeron55, thought i saw minetest on some wellknown website
10:21 wei2912 sigh
10:21 wei2912 it was lkubuntu
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10:34 Matsetes Hi, I have some problems with skyblok mod
10:35 Matsetes Anybody can answer me?
10:35 RealBadAngel depends, try us
10:35 Keegann what's the error
10:37 Matsetes I can't dig the tree
10:37 Matsetes I have no items
10:37 Matsetes And with hand is impossible
10:39 Keegann singleplayer?
10:39 Matsetes No
10:39 Matsetes I have to?
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10:40 Keegann what server?
10:40 Matsetes No, I'm in local, but with advanced
10:41 Keegann so u can't dig anything?
10:42 Matsetes No, only the tree
10:42 Matsetes Ah, now it gave me a piece of wood for placing the sapling
10:42 Matsetes But it's the first time
10:43 Matsetes With the wooden axe I can dig it
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10:58 RealBadAngel oke doke, Alloy Furnace is added
10:59 RealBadAngel its also first machine with API function to register own alloys
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11:08 Matsetes Boh, I write for this bug into the mod forum
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11:19 RealBadAngel wait for cornernote, he can surely help ya
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11:48 * Calinou got mail from wikipedia, new stuff on their user talk by a guy who wants deletion of minetest page
11:48 Calinou BRACE YOURSELVES
11:48 Calinou A GRADUATE IS TROLLING YOU
11:50 OldCoder Calinou, you wrote pretty well except for the "fanboy" etc. remarks. They'll use those against MT. I've talked to a MC friend BTW about supporting MT but he doesn't care about Wikipedia.
11:50 Calinou we do indeed have fanboys everywhere
11:50 OldCoder No
11:51 OldCoder I meant the remarks about "MC fanboys".
11:51 Calinou remember the gameboom server being griefed back in october 2011? those were minecraft fanboys
11:51 OldCoder IIRC
11:51 OldCoder I wouldn't know; wasn't here at the time. But I'd look for more people to comment.
11:51 Calinou still; I bet the page will be deleted
11:52 OldCoder Possibly. In which case MC and MT are likely to be at war.
11:52 Calinou what annoys me is the "COI" thingie
11:52 OldCoder Yes
11:53 celeron55 it's perfectly valid
11:53 OldCoder Valid is a technical term
11:54 OldCoder He is referring to how he feels
11:54 Calinou let's tell an ubuntu user to make packages for arch
11:54 Calinou YAY, no COI here, neutrality FTW!
11:54 celeron55 calinou's flameraw in the deletion discussion isn't doing any good to anything
11:54 celeron55 war*
11:54 OldCoder As I noted above.
11:55 OldCoder VanessaE indicates she'll leave WP. I don't blame her. I did years ago.
11:55 celeron55 what the fuck people
11:55 celeron55 there is nothing wrong in deleting the article
11:56 OldCoder Again...
11:56 OldCoder Feelings are involved.
11:56 celeron55 feelings shouldn't be involved
11:56 * OldCoder considers
11:56 OldCoder I won't take a position on that one way or the other for now. Feelings that is.
12:00 celeron55 somebody mentioned minicraft in the discussion
12:00 celeron55 just check the references of it
12:01 celeron55 it has, like, tens of the most popular game news sites
12:01 OldCoder Whoa
12:02 celeron55 if you try to find a game on google that has roughly the same number of search results as minetest, you find tuxracer
12:02 celeron55 but check the references
12:03 OldCoder Search results versus references. Comment further if possible.
12:04 celeron55 i mean, there is a genereally disproportionate amount of coverage on regular news site about minetest compared to the information available about it
12:04 celeron55 -e
12:04 celeron55 +s
12:05 celeron55 that is, much less news than information
12:05 Calinou found better: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverball
12:05 OldCoder Oh, yes
12:05 Calinou you'll have an hard time finding sources
12:06 Calinou I can file an AfD for this and win
12:06 Calinou THIS IS FUN
12:06 OldCoder Do it
12:06 OldCoder Dooooooooooooo eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet :-)
12:06 Calinou lol, no. I'm not a moron
12:06 Calinou [read: I'm not graduate]
12:06 OldCoder If you could connect the two AfDs you'd make a point
12:07 celeron55 Calinou: it has 1.4 million hits on google
12:07 OldCoder Regardless are either you adding to the current discussion?
12:07 celeron55 there sure are more appropriate articles about it
12:07 OldCoder I haven't gone back since yesterday
12:07 Calinou and only two sources on wikipedia
12:07 celeron55 somebody'll just add one
12:08 OldCoder I need to look at other FOSS projects in WP. That issue nags at me. How can FOSS projects, in effect, be denied en masse?
12:08 OldCoder WP is a FOSS project
12:08 * Calinou upvotes OldCoder for using french expression
12:08 Calinou true
12:09 OldCoder Is WP notable?
12:09 OldCoder Or, rather, was it early on?
12:09 Kray why do you think being FOSS a project would have any effect in whether or not Wikipedia keeps an article about it?
12:10 celeron55 you are just having an odd view on how wikipedia works; wikipedia has always worked on the basis of including stuff that is considerably popular
12:10 celeron55 always when you see an article on wikipedia, it is there because of that
12:10 celeron55 not because wikipedia is friends with it
12:10 OldCoder Point I'm thinking about isn't as simple as FOSS == notable. I'll need to consider further.
12:11 OldCoder But I gave up on WP after a fascinating incident some years ago. Google about the naked shorting scandal if you're not familiar with it.
12:12 OldCoder I watched a trial behind the scenes where somebody who helped steal millions of dollars was acquitted of being who he was. The best part was, if it was true, that Slim Virgin's lover was on the other side.
12:12 OldCoder They need to make a movie.
12:12 * OldCoder shrugs
12:12 * OldCoder back in 15 minutes
12:13 celeron55 world is shit, money is that², deal with it 8)
12:17 Calinou wikipedia is a /free/ encylopedia, usually it /supports/ FOSS
12:17 Calinou recently it hasn't
12:17 Calinou at all
12:20 celeron55 you'll have hard time proving it actively discourages FOSS
12:21 celeron55 i'm relatively sure it tries to be fair according to the established rules
12:22 Calinou still; the AfD request thingie is unfair; in case they lose, they get nothing, they are not punished
12:22 Calinou this would let one fill AfD requests for lots of articles without even being punished
12:22 celeron55 if they lose, we pretty much get an infinite pass to be on wikipedia
12:23 Calinou in case minetest article is deleted; we (vanessae, rubenwardy, me) wasted time
12:23 Calinou this is wikipedia's main flaw: making people waste time, in things such as edit conflicts
12:23 celeron55 i belive in that not all work is valuable
12:23 celeron55 and the world is unfair
12:23 celeron55 sometimes (even usually) you end up seeing all you did was just useless
12:24 Calinou agree
12:24 Calinou very often actually :P
12:24 celeron55 you can learn something usually from that though
12:33 OldCoder Indeed to all of the above.
12:33 OldCoder Deletionists suck
12:33 OldCoder <---- Does not feel the need to be 100% mature 100% of the time
12:34 * Calinou makes deletionists eat their barnstars
12:34 Calinou they'll all suffocate, they have so much of them
12:34 OldCoder Amusing MP3 coming if I can find a quick host
12:39 OldCoder http://swithu.com/v-Wikipirates-mhho0hw5l8
12:39 OldCoder
12:41 OldCoder "Web pages are in short supply and what if we run out?"
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12:44 M13 Hello
12:44 M13 Need help
12:44 M13 can anyone help?
12:45 RealBadAngel with?
12:45 M13 Compiling Minetest on Windows :P
12:45 M13 I booted Windows :P
12:45 RealBadAngel so just follow the steps in howto
12:46 M13 i did and this came op
12:46 M13 up*
12:46 M13 it couldnt find libgmp-10.dll
12:47 RealBadAngel http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6951938/libgmp-10-dll-is-missing
12:50 M13 how do i change the path variables
12:50 M13 srry Linux user not Windows :P
12:53 M13 fixed it
12:53 M13 copyed the dll files in the main folder :P
12:54 M13 nope taht didnt work :P
12:54 RealBadAngel http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000549.htm
12:54 RealBadAngel have linux users ever heard of google?
12:56 Calinou ubuntu users haven't
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12:59 M13 nope
12:59 M13 no need
13:00 M13 how do i set the system path, what do i name it?
13:00 M13 Path
13:01 M13 this is stupid
13:01 Calinou windows is stupid
13:01 Calinou true
13:02 M13 i need to compile my Fork for Windows!
13:02 M13 Calinou: what do i name the path to MinGW
13:03 RealBadAngel have your read links i posted you?
13:03 RealBadAngel all answers r there
13:03 M13 yes
13:03 RealBadAngel no you didnt
13:03 Calinou M13, you can compile for windows under linux
13:03 RealBadAngel try again
13:04 M13 Not my Version
13:04 M13 Not new makefile
13:04 RealBadAngel what windows do you have/
13:04 RealBadAngel ?
13:04 M13 XP
13:05 M13 <Calinou> M13, you can compile for windows under linux : how?
13:05 RealBadAngel Windows XP
13:05 RealBadAngel Start -> Control Panel -> System -> Advanced
13:05 RealBadAngel Click on Environment Variables, under System Variables, find PATH, and click on it.
13:05 RealBadAngel In the Edit windows, modify PATH by adding the location of the class to the value for PATH. If you do not have the item PATH, you may select to add a new variable and add PATH as the name and the location of the class as the value.
13:05 RealBadAngel Close the window.
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13:06 RealBadAngel hi neko
13:06 NekoGloop Good mornin'
13:07 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, check whats new in technic
13:08 Calinou M13, I have no idea how though
13:09 M13 what do i name the path?
13:09 M13 got the path for the path
13:10 NekoGloop Wouldnt height-based production make more sense with a wind turbine...?
13:10 RealBadAngel that also is sensible
13:10 M13 o what do i nme the Variable?
13:10 RealBadAngel for example c:\example
13:11 M13 not the path
13:11 M13 the variable name
13:12 RealBadAngel http://www.mingw.org/wiki/InstallationHOWTOforMinGW
13:12 RealBadAngel The whole C:\MinGW subtree is fully relocatable which means there can be several different versions of the MinGW toolchain installed in parallel, e.g. in directories C:\MinGW-3.4.5 and C:\MinGW-4.5.2. Switching between these is merely a matter of renaming directories, assuming C:\MinGW\bin; has been added to the path. You can permanently add C:\MinGW\bin by following the instructions at Environment Settings.
13:13 NekoGloop Oh. My. God.
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13:14 NekoGloop Was it neccessary to paste that in the chat?
13:15 RealBadAngel for ubuntu users yes
13:15 RealBadAngel they do not know what google is
13:15 NekoGloop Apparently
13:15 NekoGloop I at least google first
13:16 NekoGloop If i cant find it on the first 2-3 pages, then i ask
13:17 RealBadAngel ive added alloy furnace
13:17 RealBadAngel and function to register alloys from outside
13:17 NekoGloop I saw you added the furnace
13:17 NekoGloop But i'm on my ipad so you may have to wait a bit lol
13:17 RealBadAngel im doing now the same for grinder
13:19 M13 ok
13:19 M13 i did the
13:20 M13 path and now im going to compile :P
13:20 RealBadAngel hooray
13:21 M13 IT WORKS
13:21 RealBadAngel HOORAY
13:21 M13 thnx so much RealBadAngel
13:21 NekoGloop Oooh, big surprise xD
13:21 RealBadAngel np, but in the future feel free to ask uncle google first
13:22 M13 i got errors but i think thats normal in the configureation
13:22 M13 thats what the howto says
13:27 M13 ERRORs
13:27 OldCoder M13, see PM for link
13:27 M13 we have a problem bob
13:27 M13 ok
13:27 M13 PM it
13:27 OldCoder M13, PM'd it at 11:00pm last night as promised
13:28 M13 no i logged out
13:28 OldCoder All right
13:28 OldCoder Busy elsewhere but will return here in a bit
13:28 M13 k
13:34 M13 do you understand this error, get it when i try to compile on Windows : http://pastebin.com/kuJtLpyf
13:35 Calinou poor guy has missing dependancies
13:35 M13 yes :(
13:35 Calinou you need irrlicht :p
13:35 NekoGloop Compile on windows?
13:35 NekoGloop Pfft leave that to sfan
13:35 Calinou gettext is optional
13:35 M13 i have it in the dir
13:36 M13 what dir does it need to be in?
13:37 RealBadAngel try to install irrlicht, it may help
13:38 M13 is there a exe. for windows or do i need to do it manually
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13:39 M13 ill make a path to it in the CMakeLists.txt
13:40 RealBadAngel http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1434
13:40 RealBadAngel heres complete guide on how to compile it
13:40 NekoGloop How about... Sfan's build...?
13:41 RealBadAngel hes compilin some old version i guess
13:41 thexyz well, i guess nobody here uses windows so there's no need in windows build
13:42 RealBadAngel i do
13:42 RealBadAngel but sfans builds r okay
13:43 NekoGloop And i use windows, so does 2cool
13:43 thexyz um..
13:44 thexyz i thought windows users are used to suffering
13:44 NekoGloop Nope
13:45 NekoGloop 1) i have never seen a bsod.
13:45 thexyz lol
13:45 NekoGloop 2) windows has always run fast (on this computer, where my hard drive isnt full xD)
13:46 NekoGloop Or, rather, the computer in the other room, as i'm on my ipad xD
13:46 RealBadAngel ive seen a bsod once in berlin in machine selling s-bahn tickets
13:46 RealBadAngel that was fun :)
13:46 thexyz NekoGloop: oh, i guess, you're definetly used to suffering ^^
13:46 NekoGloop thexyz: How so?
13:46 thexyz what do you use iPad for?
13:47 NekoGloop Irc & youtube when i'm too lazy to go in my computer room.
13:47 thexyz is that all?
13:48 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Once, in a meijer, a price scanner was showing a windows desktop.
13:48 NekoGloop thexyz: Pretty much, yeah xD
13:48 M13 xyz
13:48 M13 can you compile on windows?
13:48 M13 or cross-compile
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13:48 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
13:48 NekoGloop That's like asking a door to let light through
13:49 thexyz M13: yes, i can
13:49 RealBadAngel hi PilzAdam
13:49 thexyz but i don't have any windows license now =(
13:49 RealBadAngel google for it ;)
13:49 NekoGloop That implies you want one, which i know is not the case.
13:50 thexyz NekoGloop: if you can give me one for free i'll take it
13:50 NekoGloop Yeah right.
13:51 thexyz windows is damn expensive, isn't it?
13:51 thexyz the cheapest version seems to be $119.99
13:51 NekoGloop Depends, are you getting 7(the crashfest) or xp(the one that actually works)?
13:51 thexyz well, now you can easily buy android pc/tv-box for $40-$60
13:52 NekoGloop 7 is a helluva lot more expensive than xp nowadays
13:52 thexyz NekoGloop: i thought i can't buy xp now
13:53 thexyz > Monday, June 30th is the last day to buy the retail version of Windows XP.  Microsoft will continue to support Windows XP until 2014 but users will no longer be able to purchase it with a new computer or in a retail store.
13:54 NekoGloop I see
13:54 NekoGloop Funny, i got my computer on june 30th
13:54 NekoGloop Look on ebay.
13:55 NekoGloop Or amazon, they may have one
13:55 thexyz anyway, i don't want to spend my money on it
13:57 thexyz because then i'd need to buy an antivirus and some other shit
13:58 frogcrush Go Windows 8
13:59 frogcrush :D
14:00 NekoGloop I dont have an antivirus
14:00 * PilzAdam starts to hack NekoGloop computer
14:00 NekoGloop Yeah right
14:01 thexyz that's nice
14:01 thexyz but i don't want to give out my passwords/ssh access/credit card information/etc
14:07 thexyz have anybody already griefed landmine's server?
14:07 NekoGloop Probably
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14:09 celeron55 windows 7 *is* pretty stable and runs well on modern hardware though
14:09 celeron55 the newest i've owned is xp though
14:09 PilzAdam what hardware are you talking about?
14:09 PilzAdam not mine i guess
14:10 thexyz PilzAdam: "modern hardware"
14:10 celeron55 well, a multi-gigahertz multicore processor and gigabytes of RAM
14:10 PilzAdam i have "modern" hardware
14:10 thexyz what's your specs?
14:11 PilzAdam intel core i7 ~2GHz (dunno exatcly) and 4 GB RAM
14:11 NekoGloop Yeah, 7 and vista waste the resources of the computers
14:11 celeron55 PilzAdam: and you are saying windows 7 runs badly?
14:11 thexyz well, i have i5-2400 & 8 gb of ddr3 ram
14:11 thexyz never have tried w7 on that
14:11 PilzAdam celeron55, blue screens every week
14:11 thexyz or any windows
14:11 celeron55 i've used w7 on such machines in work, and they work fine
14:12 celeron55 PilzAdam: sounds like broken HW and/or drivers, buy quality stuff
14:12 PilzAdam now, there was a bug in x86 version of win 7
14:12 PilzAdam -w
14:13 thexyz ecube: for example, there is pink dye but it isn't declared in basecolors/excolors
14:14 celeron55 currently i use windows 7 on an i5 or i7 or whatever laptop (i don't even know, doesn't matter) but i mainly run debian in a virtual machine in it (actually, a couple of them) and use it in fullscreen 8)
14:14 celeron55 in work, that is
14:14 PilzAdam i use a win 7 /kubuntu dualboot
14:14 Calinou you use debian? thought you used arch usually
14:15 celeron55 i use arch pretty much only on one single machine
14:15 celeron55 everything else is debian
14:17 * Calinou managed to crash minetest using trampoline mod
14:17 Calinou put two trampolines at max strength one below another (2 block space between)
14:17 Calinou wait a few seconds > crash, and my Y coordinate was something like 2 billion
14:18 NekoGloop I edited the bouncyness of them all
14:18 NekoGloop First setting is equal to your max
14:18 NekoGloop Max setting is massive
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14:19 PilzAdam celeron55, german minetest wiki article: there are some non-minetest wikipedians wich improve the article; so i guess its not going to be deleted
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14:51 * PilzAdam gtg because armored kill is out
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14:57 celeron55 quite expensive
14:57 jordach hm?
14:57 celeron55 * PilzAdam gtg because armored kill is out
14:58 jordach aye
14:59 celeron55 if you have too much money to throw at things, i guess it's worth wasting some time on though
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15:02 jordach of course.
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15:09 jordach celeron55, have you considered my apple tree fix?
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15:29 cisoun wtf github
15:29 cisoun seems broken
15:31 Jeija https://status.github.com/ it is and it also was the last few days
15:31 jordach Page did not respond in a timely fashion.
15:32 jordach cisoun, may i ask what are you after?
15:34 thexyz http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3005
15:35 Calinou twin towers, github version :p
15:35 cisoun taking news about the repos I'm looking forward
15:35 jordach Calinou, no trolling#
15:36 cisoun Calinou: /o\
15:36 cisoun I think I'm gonna set up a git repository on my raspberry pi...
15:37 jordach We've taken a bad DB down and are working to return the DB cluster to a normal state now. : THANKS.
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15:39 RealBadAngel shit, and im just updatin lotsa stuff with my mod :(
15:41 thexyz well, simple advice: don't depend on github ^^
15:41 RealBadAngel im partially depended on github
15:42 cisoun self-hosting ftw
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15:42 thexyz cisoun: +1
15:42 thexyz that's what i use as for now http://i.imgur.com/hzYck.png
15:42 RealBadAngel all the sources are stored on my server, im using github to sync to it, and for easily packaging
15:44 cisoun thexyz: holy shit !! You're using gitlab ? I gave up, was to difficult to set up...
15:44 thexyz cisoun: yep, it was not that hard to set up ;)
15:44 cisoun which distro do you use ?
15:44 jordach debian.
15:44 thexyz debian
15:45 thexyz Debian GNU/Linux 6.0
15:45 cisoun did you read a tutorial to set it up ?
15:45 cisoun if yes, where ?
15:45 thexyz yep
15:45 cisoun the only ones I found where so much long...
15:45 thexyz well, https://github.com/gitlabhq/gitlabhq/blob/stable/doc/installation.md
15:45 thexyz which is down now
15:45 Calinou thexyz uses arch, no?
15:45 cisoun haha fail
15:46 thexyz Calinou: not on my server
15:46 Calinou k
15:46 thexyz and i switched to gentoo not so long time ago
15:46 cisoun well, cgit is not bad too.
15:46 cisoun I'm using it now.
15:47 thexyz cisoun: btw, what was your problem?
15:48 cisoun https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gitlab  TL;DR
15:48 cisoun cgit/gitlist are good enough.
15:48 thexyz lolwtf
15:48 thexyz official instruction is much shorter
15:49 cisoun uh...
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15:50 cisoun the funny thing is... they put the gitlab source code... ON GITHUB
15:50 cisoun meh
15:51 cisoun They have should make a gitlab server and put the code on it.
15:51 thexyz there seems to be no public projects support in gitlab
15:52 cisoun Seems good though.
15:53 frogcrush Anyone know of Minetest running on a Pi?
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15:55 thexyz frogcrush: somebody
15:55 thexyz damn
15:55 thexyz read this http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1903
15:56 Jeija Client: no Server: yes (client at least not playable, server is slow)
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15:57 * jordach waits for gthub to work
15:57 * jordach playes black ops
15:58 VanessaE hi all
15:58 rubenwardy hi
15:59 rubenwardy for some reason my internet does not work, yet i can still talk to you...
15:59 jordach meh
16:00 jordach rubenwardy im on bt internet, so id get it too
16:00 rubenwardy right now?
16:00 VanessaE well remember the net is more than just web pages
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16:01 rubenwardy i have resmon.exe up, and it is surprising the amount of network using programs...
16:02 rubenwardy Pidgin says: (msn account) "Connection error from Notification server:
16:02 rubenwardy Windows socket error #10013"
16:02 VanessaE for me, it's web, irc, weather applet, network time daemon, git when I'm using that, ...
16:03 VanessaE plus all the random shit that comes in from malware, hackers, etc.
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16:04 rubenwardy1 great, in chat twice
16:04 rubenwardy1 it works!
16:04 RealBadAngel hi Vanessa
16:04 VanessaE hey RBA
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16:05 RealBadAngel i just started to add stuff to mod and github died :(
16:05 VanessaE so I read
16:06 RealBadAngel ive added alloy furnace, lots of items, crafting recipes for tubes
16:06 RealBadAngel im about to add mining drill
16:07 RealBadAngel and initial support for tubes
16:07 RealBadAngel thats the plan for today
16:08 RealBadAngel meanwhile i need to write api functions for loading tools, grinder and powering machines
16:09 RealBadAngel with alloy furnace already anyone can add own recipes
16:09 VanessaE (I try to make a point to read channel backlog when I return)
16:09 VanessaE cool
16:09 RealBadAngel you should like it
16:09 RealBadAngel its possible to smelt stuff in different ratios
16:11 VanessaE so like 3 iron + 1 zinc -> stainless steel
16:11 VanessaE er not zinc
16:11 VanessaE chromium
16:11 RealBadAngel hehe yes
16:12 RealBadAngel ive made a few recipes already
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16:12 RealBadAngel and found use for those funny red/green/blue diamond blocks
16:13 RealBadAngel they become energy crystals
16:17 VanessaE cool
16:23 * khonkhortisan heard the word zinc
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16:26 RealBadAngel you can check recipes in topic. not everythin is yet uploaded, coz github down
16:26 RealBadAngel but all the crafting i just finished
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16:29 VanessaE bbl
16:30 RealBadAngel khonkhortisan, ive released today alloy furnace, so you can mix metals materials here as you wish
16:31 RealBadAngel other mods can use also to define own alloys
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16:31 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: getting newest technic now
16:31 RealBadAngel its updating all the time
16:32 RealBadAngel but dl it, in a moment mining drill will be aviable
16:32 NekoGloop I'm assuming since the colored diamond blocks are now called energy crystals, they give off low amounts of electricity?
16:32 RealBadAngel they will be higher tier batteries
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16:32 NekoGloop ah, i see.
16:32 NekoGloop really expesive batteries xD
16:33 RealBadAngel RE battery is 40k, red crystal 80, green 400k, blue 1kk
16:33 NekoGloop oh i see, they grow off of each other...
16:33 NekoGloop 1kk == 1mil?
16:33 RealBadAngel yes
16:34 NekoGloop and pipeworks, do they have a use?
16:34 RealBadAngel today i will upload 1 or two machines using it
16:34 NekoGloop ok
16:34 RealBadAngel now im finishing mining drill
16:34 NekoGloop best to use the "machines" already in the pipeworks.
16:34 NekoGloop just give them a use.
16:34 RealBadAngel need to allow to load it
16:35 NekoGloop mining drill... hm, can we eventually have a deployer?
16:35 RealBadAngel and block breaker too
16:35 NekoGloop (the redpower thing that uses a tool for you, i think it was a deployer)
16:35 RealBadAngel not really
16:36 RealBadAngel it can take a seed, sapling, node
16:36 RealBadAngel at place if for ya
16:36 NekoGloop oh...
16:36 NekoGloop what was the redpower thing that uses a tool though...?
16:36 RealBadAngel block breaker
16:36 NekoGloop i see
16:36 RealBadAngel with logic signal it acts like player with a pickaxe
16:37 NekoGloop oh, ok.
16:37 RealBadAngel and item is sent into the tubes
16:37 NekoGloop on that note, do any machines use mesecons yet?
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16:37 RealBadAngel not yet
16:37 NekoGloop hm...
16:38 RealBadAngel ive done all the 1st tier machines, now have to provide api for all of them
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16:38 NekoGloop actually, to effectively use it, you might have to rewrite mesecons
16:38 RealBadAngel no
16:38 RealBadAngel i will just register my machines as effectors
16:38 NekoGloop but i dont want my machines to require a mesecons signal
16:39 RealBadAngel you will c, with that fun will just start
16:39 NekoGloop oh, and is it possible to make a machine that sends a mesecon signal? uses low amounts of power, etc.
16:40 NekoGloop as soon as your mining drill is finished, i'll download
16:40 RealBadAngel possible. like for example coal driven generator when low on fuel can send mesecon signal to deployer to send some fuel
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16:41 NekoGloop nonono... i mean a machine that does that and only that
16:41 RealBadAngel with api you will be able to create such machine
16:41 NekoGloop cool
16:42 RealBadAngel back to coding, need to make it load
16:42 RealBadAngel brb
16:42 NekoGloop ah, it isnt recognized by the batbox as a electric device?
16:48 RealBadAngel it is now, uploading it now
16:49 RealBadAngel done, you can download
16:50 NekoGloop pawseome
16:51 RealBadAngel reload it, had to push one small fix
16:53 NekoGloop now lets reinstall pipeworks because i had to remove its check for technic
16:53 PilzAdam armored kill is aweseome!!!
16:53 NekoGloop wha...?
16:54 NekoGloop anyway, I'll eventually add technic dust support to gloopores.
16:54 NekoGloop emphasis on eventually
16:54 RealBadAngel hehe
16:54 NekoGloop because you need to do grinder first :D
16:55 NekoGloop grinder api, even
16:55 RealBadAngel ill will start with it right now
16:55 NekoGloop actually, if i manage that, do i win internets? :D
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16:55 Mikeonline hio
16:55 RealBadAngel shouldnt be hard, since api for alloy is done
16:56 NekoGloop i should have done my creative mode world xD
16:56 NekoGloop actually i will :P
16:56 RealBadAngel ive changed at last solar panels recipe
16:56 NekoGloop i saw that.
16:57 RealBadAngel it much harder to build them now
16:57 NekoGloop i saw xD
16:57 NekoGloop cant you make them -not- use mithril?
16:58 RealBadAngel so dope silicons wafer with hmmm dirt to be easier? ;)
16:58 NekoGloop hm...
16:58 NekoGloop use gloopores talinite
16:58 NekoGloop it doesnt have enough uses ;)
17:00 RealBadAngel you will be able to define recipes for it
17:00 RealBadAngel in fact you already can
17:01 NekoGloop well i mean for the solar panel
17:01 NekoGloop but you dont want much more dependencies... so idk
17:01 RealBadAngel take wafer and dope it with somethin other
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17:02 NekoGloop well, i was gonna do that with kalite. Kalite is supposed to be the odd one out of my ores. xD
17:02 RealBadAngel register_alloy_recipe ("technic:silicon_wafer",1, "gloopores:kalite",3, "technic:doped_silicon_wafer",1)
17:02 RealBadAngel try it, shall work
17:02 NekoGloop gloopores:kaite_lump ;)
17:02 NekoGloop lol fail
17:02 NekoGloop gloopores:kalite_lump
17:02 NekoGloop there we go xD
17:02 RealBadAngel test it, wonder if it gonna work
17:03 NekoGloop assuming you didnt misspell anything, yeah
17:03 NekoGloop gonna test what you have though
17:03 NekoGloop btw: EWWWWW you reverted the dust graphics
17:03 RealBadAngel they were lookin like shit
17:03 RealBadAngel i restored old ones
17:06 NekoGloop alloy furnace seems slow
17:06 NekoGloop but... HUZZAH
17:07 NekoGloop I HAVE BRONZE DUST!!
17:09 NekoGloop this may also come in handy with my sword adding mod, maybe cooking some kind of material INTO the swords
17:10 khonkhortisan diamond dust sword
17:10 khonkhortisan sandpaper
17:10 RealBadAngel im almost done with api for grinder, 10 minutes
17:11 * PilzAdam is back
17:11 NekoGloop lol
17:11 NekoGloop mining drill fortunatly cant go overkill and rape the landscape with its power
17:11 khonkhortisan colored wood when hit with sandpaper = wood
17:12 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, 1st tier of it has not so much capacity
17:12 RealBadAngel but its damn fast
17:12 NekoGloop i know
17:13 NekoGloop i mean you cant hold the button and kill the world
17:13 RealBadAngel yeah, i try to make them fun to use, but not bein extremaly overpowered
17:13 NekoGloop its like those times that you're just like: I'm pretty sure that's a bug, but it's awesome
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17:15 NekoGloop so, what, does it just rip through any block?
17:20 NekoGloop Me: wtf mining pick stopped working Minetest: you idiot, it ran out of juice...
17:21 Mikeonline hm
17:25 NekoGloop geothermal, y u need water D:
17:27 Mikeonline is there a setting for max rollback time/items?
17:28 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, example: register_grinder_recipe("moreores:mithril_lump","technic:mithril_dust 2")
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17:28 NekoGloop makes sense
17:29 RealBadAngel you can add your own now
17:29 NekoGloop YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
17:29 NekoGloop yesterday i made a comment i think you'll like (or not)
17:30 RealBadAngel where?
17:30 NekoGloop mesecons = 10 mins later its out of date, technic = 5 years later, still latest version
17:30 RealBadAngel :P
17:31 NekoGloop dude, you seriously dont need to make it completely working before you upload
17:31 NekoGloop because when you do that, it's a guarentee something will go wrong 8)
17:31 RealBadAngel last week i had a little time to cod
17:31 RealBadAngel code
17:31 RealBadAngel today im sittin whole day n workin
17:31 PilzAdam bäääää cod
17:31 NekoGloop now do main API :D
17:32 RealBadAngel now loading tools api
17:32 NekoGloop if any of your code made any sense to me, I'd do it myself xD
17:32 RealBadAngel battery box main ABM is getting too long without it
17:33 NekoGloop i'd imagine so
17:33 RealBadAngel and i need to add loading for crystals too
17:33 NekoGloop with 30 batboxes on this circuit, my minetest lags immensely xD
17:33 jordach PilzAdam, what about call of duty?
17:33 RealBadAngel thats why you will want to upgrade your batboxes
17:34 PilzAdam jordach, bäääääää
17:34 NekoGloop well i want all those slots to plug batteries, lasers, and drills in
17:34 * jordach bleats like a sheep
17:34 RealBadAngel why keep 30 of low capacity when 1 of 3rd tier will be offernig more?
17:35 NekoGloop if they have extra loading/unloading docks, maybe
17:35 RealBadAngel like 2 slots for charghin, 5 times fater load time
17:35 RealBadAngel etc :)
17:35 NekoGloop well i'll upgrade then
17:35 NekoGloop but not yet, because they dont work ;)
17:36 RealBadAngel as i said, i do have all basic stuff done, now just to make better versions
17:36 NekoGloop "on_place_on_ground = minetest.craftitem_place_item" um... derp?
17:37 RealBadAngel honestly i dont know whats that, copied that from somwhere in the very beginings ;)
17:37 RealBadAngel and it lives now on its own
17:37 NekoGloop from dusts
17:39 RealBadAngel ok, so lets start with another api function
17:39 RealBadAngel btw, tested grinder registration?
17:40 NekoGloop not yet
17:40 NekoGloop workin on it
17:40 NekoGloop aaaactually...
17:40 NekoGloop akalin has about nil uses...
17:40 NekoGloop let's give it some >:D
17:40 RealBadAngel hehehe
17:40 NekoGloop you can make fancy blocks atm
17:40 NekoGloop dat's it, sadly xD
17:43 NekoGloop where is the silicon recipe registered?
17:43 NekoGloop It's most certainly not in the alloy furnace.
17:44 NekoGloop and solar panel recipe is the same...
17:45 NekoGloop do you even check these things xD
17:48 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Maybe upload the one WITH all the stuff? :3
17:49 RealBadAngel im checkin it
17:49 NekoGloop where did you shove the silicon recipe lol
17:49 NekoGloop btw: a pointer: dont limit how low you can find an ore
17:50 RealBadAngel with solar panel there was a pause because of github down
17:50 RealBadAngel its uploading rite now
17:50 NekoGloop lol
17:50 RealBadAngel just forgot
17:50 NekoGloop and same for silicon?
17:51 RealBadAngel silicon is in alloy furnace
17:51 NekoGloop nope
17:51 RealBadAngel its an alloy of sand and coal
17:51 NekoGloop i see stainless steel, and both bronze recipes
17:52 NekoGloop no silicon
17:52 NekoGloop or do you mean the abm for the alloy furnace itself?
17:52 RealBadAngel damm it ;)
17:52 RealBadAngel uploading
17:53 RealBadAngel both fixes up
17:56 NekoGloop damn, i gtg
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18:12 PilzAdam gtg
18:12 PilzAdam bye
18:12 jordach sfan5, i have decided to change my fork overview to 0.3.2
18:12 jordach and work from there
18:12 sfan5 ok
18:13 jordach i can easily update for wool
18:13 jordach since they look the same as 0.2
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18:41 RealBadAngel im also going off, need a nap
18:42 khonkhortisan RBAfk
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19:04 frogcrush Hi, I'm getting an error while trying to log my brother in; the error is Some exception: "Access " on his PC and a failed to emerge player on my server
19:05 frogcrush Version is 0.4.3
19:07 khonkhortisan what does it say in the terminal?
19:07 khonkhortisan for his client?
19:07 frogcrush jas
19:07 frogcrush Access violation at 01239713 write?=0 address=0
19:08 frogcrush there are five and then the exception
19:08 jordach running direct3d
19:08 * jordach gives up
19:12 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/aXuax.png
19:14 khonkhortisan I haven't gotten that error before | I like the canvas
19:14 cisoun thexyz: dafuq
19:14 cisoun can you really paint ?
19:14 thexyz ?
19:14 khonkhortisan yep
19:14 thexyz yep
19:14 khonkhortisan canvas mod
19:14 cisoun waaaat
19:15 khonkhortisan or painting mod, whatever it's called
19:15 thexyz there's mod by jin_xi
19:15 thexyz called painting
19:15 cisoun so we can make writable signs like in minecraft !
19:15 cisoun daaaaaang
19:15 thexyz here's my more-up-to-date fork https://github.com/xyzz/painting
19:15 khonkhortisan no writable signs is a different mod
19:15 thexyz cisoun: there's also my signs mod
19:15 cisoun Ok... I'm a retard.
19:15 thexyz http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2736
19:15 cisoun I haven't seen the last mods...
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19:30 iqualfragile cisoun: but one cant simply use the signgs-mod because its stuffed into a single repos together with all the other mods made by thexyz
19:33 iqualfragile thexyz: that also makes it had to fork just one single mod…
19:33 thexyz maybe
19:34 thexyz but i'm too selfish to change this
19:35 iqualfragile it allso makes it hard to see if this one specific mod im interested in has been changed
19:36 thexyz yep
19:37 iqualfragile so please change it
19:37 thexyz nope, atm i like this structure
19:38 thexyz it's convenient for my minetest.ru server
19:41 iqualfragile the other structure would not be much different
19:41 thexyz i'll have shitload of repos
19:42 iqualfragile what does that change?
19:42 thexyz then i'll need to add each repo to my minetest-ru's repo as dependency
19:42 thexyz i mean, as submodule
19:42 iqualfragile i dont think so…
19:42 iqualfragile you would just need to go into your mods/minetest directory
19:43 iqualfragile clone all the mods, one after another from github
19:43 iqualfragile and you are done, arent you?
19:43 thexyz you don't understand my structure
19:43 iqualfragile jup
19:44 thexyz all dependencies are added as git submodules
19:44 thexyz into "depends" directory
19:44 thexyz but, anyway, that doesn't matter
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20:28 iqualfragile thexyz: in how far are your xdoors2_mesecons compatible to doorsplus/ what do i have to think about it i switch
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20:49 M13Coder hello
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20:50 NekoGloop Is there still a RealBadAngel among us? ;)
20:50 RealBadAngel whassup?
20:50 NekoGloop nothing, I'm just back lol
20:50 NekoGloop what'd i miss?
20:50 RealBadAngel and i just took a nap
20:50 NekoGloop lol
20:50 RealBadAngel and fixed a few small things
20:51 NekoGloop I just redownloaded
20:51 RealBadAngel i made chromium a bit more common, added api for loading power tools
20:51 NekoGloop fixes to ores generation sounds promising
20:52 RealBadAngel diamonds shall also be a bit bit more common
20:52 NekoGloop sweet
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20:53 NekoGloop btw: use wield_image to set a image for the copper wire, currently it looks like shit in the player's hand lol
20:53 NekoGloop update the post as well, it still says 0.4.2-rc1
20:54 NekoGloop do energy crystals function now?
20:55 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: have you worked on a screwdriver at all?
20:56 RealBadAngel not yet, "wear" is only 64k, i need to add a new variable for all the tools
20:56 RealBadAngel and translate it to "wear" to have the bar
20:56 NekoGloop would it be alright if i make a screwdriver?
20:56 NekoGloop I've got a really good idea for it.
20:57 RealBadAngel shouldnt be so hard, pick the node, change facedir, put it back
20:57 NekoGloop well my little venture into the bucket code told me how that should work
20:58 RealBadAngel so?
20:58 NekoGloop we could also make a sonic as well, with your new api :3
20:58 RealBadAngel and of course you can do that
20:58 RealBadAngel who would guess? ;)
20:59 NekoGloop no, you have to say it right
20:59 NekoGloop WHO would guess?
20:59 RealBadAngel hehehe
20:59 NekoGloop :D
20:59 RealBadAngel register_power_tool ("technic:mining_drill",60000)
21:00 RealBadAngel example registering the tool
21:00 NekoGloop cool
21:00 RealBadAngel 60k is max capacity
21:00 NekoGloop I only have to do that? nothing special to tooldef?
21:00 RealBadAngel to get the current load you have to use 2 functions
21:01 RealBadAngel function get_RE_item_load (load1,max_load)
21:01 RealBadAngel and function set_RE_item_load (load1,max_load)
21:01 NekoGloop i see
21:01 RealBadAngel that translated wear to linear value
21:02 NekoGloop get_RE_item_load returns the value. set_RE_item_load sets it. go figure.
21:02 RealBadAngel so you can operate load like 10000/60000
21:02 RealBadAngel most easy tool is mining drill
21:02 NekoGloop lol
21:02 RealBadAngel take a look at it
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21:03 NekoGloop but first, a normal screwdriver
21:05 RealBadAngel ok, i just fixed a glitch in mining drill
21:06 RealBadAngel and lookin for a way to make it less laggy
21:06 NekoGloop doesnt seem laggy to me
21:07 NekoGloop how do i check if a node has meta?
21:08 RealBadAngel copy it all
21:08 RealBadAngel look at hacky_swap_node function
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21:09 RealBadAngel its in defaults and in my init.lua
21:10 NekoGloop no i mean how do i check if a node HAS meta?
21:10 RealBadAngel who the heck would know whats in the specific meta?
21:11 RealBadAngel just copy it all
21:12 RealBadAngel dump it all to table, do whats needed with the node
21:12 RealBadAngel and restore it
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21:14 RealBadAngel i need to split electric.lua into batbox and furnace
21:14 RealBadAngel its a mess by now
21:14 NekoGloop lol
21:15 RealBadAngel i just found two functions never used, some old tries
21:16 NekoGloop is 0 a broken tool or a new one?
21:18 iqualfragile what happened to this: http://celeron.55.lt/blog/?p=268 ?
21:19 NekoGloop it went derp
21:23 RealBadAngel 0 means no bar at all
21:24 RealBadAngel when 0 change it to 65535
21:24 RealBadAngel but i think loading function takes care of it
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21:26 NekoGloop my non electric screwdriver lol
21:28 RealBadAngel ah, non electric :)
21:28 NekoGloop well its not even turning the node atm
21:28 NekoGloop forunately no crashing though lol
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21:30 NekoGloop well can you help? :P
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21:33 RealBadAngel sure
21:34 RealBadAngel i just cleaned the mess and uploaded it
21:34 RealBadAngel pastebin what you got by now
21:36 NekoGloop http://pastebin.com/5ckphEfN but i gtg so tell me when i get back xD
21:36 NekoGloop or add it to technic mainstream, that will work too
21:42 iqualfragile celeron55: http://c55.me/blog/?p=268 ?
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21:55 iqualfragile im sorry, did you answer?
21:58 RealBadAngel he didnt
22:00 iqualfragile thats sad, but thanks for the info
22:01 iqualfragile i think this would be a realy nice feature
22:01 RealBadAngel it is nice
22:01 iqualfragile and its something graphical wich isnt in minecraft
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22:03 Octupus HOLA
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22:07 M13Coder my images wont work so how do i fix it http://pastebin.com/sLVL43DR
22:08 KsM Meh, I forgot how to use git
22:09 M13Coder VanessaE images help >>V
22:09 M13Coder http://pastebin.com/sLVL43DR
22:09 KsM git pull would sync my old version of the git repo with the new one right?
22:10 OldCoder MuadTralk, Hello
22:11 Octupus vanessa what can u do with vesels with undifeied dyes?
22:12 iqualfragile KsM: yes
22:13 Octupus Without undified dyes
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22:28 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: screwdriver workin yet?
22:28 RealBadAngel fightin with it
22:29 NekoGloop good to see I'm not the only one who had it derp massively xD
22:29 MuadTralk is it sonic?
22:29 NekoGloop there will be a sonic
22:29 NekoGloop but currently we are working on the base screwdriver.
22:30 NekoGloop Probably also laser (the Master's screwdriver), with more capacity
22:30 RealBadAngel hi MuadTralk
22:32 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: care to pastebin your current progress?
22:33 NekoGloop also, the recipe; is it good?
22:35 RealBadAngel a sec
22:36 Octupus MILK MOD
22:36 RealBadAngel http://pastebin.com/bQSD4jL0
22:36 RealBadAngel i got a proble with pos i think
22:36 RealBadAngel tryin to figure it out now
22:38 NekoGloop as for the recipe? is it good?
22:38 VanessaE afternoon all
22:39 VanessaE Octupus: it's meant to create a standard for other mods to use later.  afaik nothing uses it yet besides unified dyes.
22:39 NekoGloop hello vanessae
22:39 VanessaE hey
22:39 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, i think so
22:39 NekoGloop :3
22:39 NekoGloop i mean do you like it?
22:40 Octupus ohh :(
22:41 RealBadAngel its sick
22:41 RealBadAngel print(node_name)
22:41 RealBadAngel minetest.env:set_node(pos,node_name)
22:41 RealBadAngel
22:41 RealBadAngel i do check if node_name is a string with a name
22:41 RealBadAngel then next line says its nil
22:41 RealBadAngel instead of string
22:41 NekoGloop uh, lol?
22:42 RealBadAngel and crashes of course
22:42 NekoGloop minetest.env:set_node(pos,{name=node_name}) right?
22:43 RealBadAngel this line
22:44 RealBadAngel i even hardcoded node name there
22:44 RealBadAngel and it still says its nil
22:44 NekoGloop because it wants a node.
22:44 NekoGloop give it a node, not a name
22:45 RealBadAngel yeah it works
22:46 RealBadAngel but screwdriver is gone after one use
22:46 NekoGloop ooooh, i think i know why :P
22:46 NekoGloop fail is fail lol
22:47 NekoGloop it's returning a empty itemstack, with the wear.
22:47 NekoGloop instead of the actual screwdriver
22:47 NekoGloop UGH, y u no work for me?
22:47 RealBadAngel disabled wear for a moment
22:47 NekoGloop it worked for him, why cant it work for me?
22:47 RealBadAngel and screwdriver works just fine
22:48 NekoGloop please tell me how, since it derped for me.
22:48 NekoGloop facedir isnt being changed
22:48 NekoGloop (tested on grinder)
22:49 NekoGloop and now tested on stairs
22:49 NekoGloop still wont work for me
22:49 RealBadAngel download technic
22:49 RealBadAngel in a moment, uploading
22:49 NekoGloop oh, but you dont have wear?
22:50 RealBadAngel now
22:50 NekoGloop i think i know what i derped with there
22:50 RealBadAngel commented it out
22:50 RealBadAngel to test it first
22:50 RealBadAngel it nicely rotates workin furnace even
22:51 NekoGloop it should, meta is swapped directly
22:51 NekoGloop did you get some kind of graphic though?
22:51 RealBadAngel made the item texture
22:57 NekoGloop this is really cool :3
22:57 RealBadAngel now just the wear
22:57 NekoGloop yup
22:57 VanessaE zzz
22:58 NekoGloop sleepy? ;)
22:58 MuadTralk no shes a bumblebee
22:59 NekoGloop also it manages to not glitch out when pointing at a node without facedir
23:01 NekoGloop trying out my fix of wear now
23:02 NekoGloop lol the wear is going backwards
23:03 NekoGloop I'm healing the screwdriver! :D
23:03 NekoGloop as far as i know, this is only a matter of the wrong math operation being called
23:04 RealBadAngel hehehe
23:04 NekoGloop LOLWAT
23:04 NekoGloop I have a immortal screwdriver... :D
23:04 RealBadAngel better than sonic one
23:04 NekoGloop lolz
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23:05 M13 Hello
23:05 NekoGloop but i need it to disppear when wear is 0, not have wear loop back to 65535
23:05 NekoGloop or, rather, the other way aroung
23:05 NekoGloop around*
23:05 NekoGloop because 65535 is an empty wear bar
23:06 NekoGloop wait no its not
23:06 NekoGloop ignore that *facepalm*
23:07 RealBadAngel its inversed
23:07 RealBadAngel gimme the code you have for wearing out
23:07 NekoGloop one minute
23:07 NekoGloop i have something that should work
23:09 RealBadAngel here its pisses on every try to wear it out
23:09 NekoGloop lol
23:09 NekoGloop like how i couldnt get it to turn? ;)
23:09 RealBadAngel something similar lol
23:09 NekoGloop see, it's neccessary to have two people
23:10 RealBadAngel i could dump it to table, set it, and revert
23:10 RealBadAngel but for what the hell is add_wear function?
23:10 RealBadAngel never got that shit to work
23:10 NekoGloop i have no fucking clue
23:11 NekoGloop but anyhow, I just derped and used "wear" in place of "m"
23:11 RealBadAngel i copied piece of code from defaulf item.lua and it doesnt work too
23:11 NekoGloop some exception: SUCK IT.
23:12 RealBadAngel that with dumpin it to table works 100%
23:12 RealBadAngel im using it with power tools
23:13 NekoGloop idk maybe it just doesnt like you right now? :3
23:13 RealBadAngel actually it pissed me off, to table with it
23:13 NekoGloop well that was a failure
23:14 MuadTralk you dont need a screwdriver just a kettle and some string
23:14 NekoGloop ...?
23:14 MuadTralk come one neko i thought you might get the reference
23:14 NekoGloop ... sorry?
23:16 NekoGloop [british]excuse me, what?[/british]
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23:20 RealBadAngel shit :)
23:20 RealBadAngel still no go hehehhe, neko gimme the code that changes wear for ya
23:20 NekoGloop trying a new idea
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23:21 NekoGloop maybe check the RIGHT operation for it instead of the WRONG one
23:21 NekoGloop (if m<65535 was what i had... if m>65535 is what i need)
23:21 NekoGloop what. the. fuck.
23:23 NekoGloop http://pastebin.com/NkPVAcKY
23:23 NekoGloop the useless shit that doesnt work is commented out
23:24 RealBadAngel ok, i got it working, need just to delete it
23:24 RealBadAngel when worn out
23:24 NekoGloop that's what's the problem with mine
23:24 NekoGloop it doesnt disappear
23:25 VanessaE bbl
23:29 RealBadAngel solved
23:29 NekoGloop ermahgerd
23:29 NekoGloop gimme :3
23:30 RealBadAngel uploading
23:30 RealBadAngel ive made it for circa 80 uses
23:31 RealBadAngel its uploaded
23:33 RealBadAngel it can rotate stairs
23:34 NekoGloop it should rotate everything with facedir
23:34 RealBadAngel lol
23:34 RealBadAngel check the doors buhahahhahaha
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23:35 NekoGloop MAAAAAGICCCCCC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
23:35 MuadTralk if friendship
23:35 MuadTralk is*
23:35 MuadTralk derp
23:35 NekoGloop oh god no
23:36 RealBadAngel can rotate signs
23:36 M13 RealBadAngel
23:36 RealBadAngel what?
23:36 NekoGloop it can rotate wallmounted?
23:36 M13 what post was that for compiling minetets?
23:36 M13 minetest? *
23:37 RealBadAngel yes, aparently
23:37 RealBadAngel signs, ladders, and nyancat
23:37 NekoGloop nyancat is facedir
23:37 RealBadAngel m13: wait a sec
23:38 NekoGloop lol it can rotate mesecon wires even
23:38 M13 ok found it
23:38 RealBadAngel http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1434
23:38 NekoGloop but the question is, do they still work?
23:38 RealBadAngel wonder
23:38 M13 were do i put irrlicht
23:39 M13 i cant install it like Linux
23:39 M13 here is how my folder is setup
23:39 NekoGloop lol i can haxxor my circuits xD
23:40 NekoGloop i just had a brilliant idea
23:40 NekoGloop mesecon wires should use wallmounted
23:40 RealBadAngel yeah, its cool
23:41 RealBadAngel but btw, node has no property you checked at the start
23:41 M13 http://pastebin.com/D49FXiut
23:41 NekoGloop hm?
23:41 RealBadAngel just name, and param2
23:42 RealBadAngel i dumped nodes i were trying to move, none have facedir2 param
23:42 RealBadAngel its only in definition
23:42 NekoGloop huh, paramtype2 should be called...
23:42 NekoGloop OH
23:42 RealBadAngel or paramtype2
23:42 NekoGloop derp :P
23:43 RealBadAngel theres just param2
23:43 NekoGloop can i call nodedef?
23:43 RealBadAngel propably
23:43 NekoGloop lol i have a piston arm
23:43 NekoGloop mining drill ftw
23:44 RealBadAngel same glitch was present in minecraft lol
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23:44 RealBadAngel local function get_nodedef_field(nodename, fieldname)
23:44 RealBadAngel if not minetest.registered_nodes[nodename] then
23:44 RealBadAngel return nil
23:44 RealBadAngel end
23:44 RealBadAngel return minetest.registered_nodes[nodename][fieldname]
23:44 RealBadAngel end
23:44 RealBadAngel local drawtype = get_nodedef_field(nodename, "drawtype")
23:45 RealBadAngel its from API
23:45 M13 RealBadAngel are my dirs right?
23:45 NekoGloop but the problem is, piston arms ARE registered nodes
23:45 RealBadAngel what a pity ;)
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23:45 M13 so no???
23:45 NekoGloop lol
23:46 RealBadAngel m13: dunno, looks ok
23:46 M13Coder beep
23:46 M13 ok but CMake says im missing irrlicht
23:47 RealBadAngel have you set a path for it?
23:47 M13 o ok
23:47 M13 lolz
23:47 M13 hahahhaha
23:47 M13Coder BEEP BEEP
23:47 Uberi|AoS BOOP BOOP
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23:47 RealBadAngel m13: use that batch file for compiling
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23:48 RealBadAngel you can set there paths to all libs
23:48 M13 what batch file?
23:49 RealBadAngel read the post
23:49 RealBadAngel NekoGloop, i will change recipe a little, to be diagonal
23:49 NekoGloop noo!
23:49 NekoGloop keep the minetest tool recipe style
23:50 RealBadAngel lol, ok
23:50 RealBadAngel lookin now for sonicscrewdriver picture
23:50 * M13Coder ZOOMS
23:50 M13 thnx RealBadAngel
23:50 M13 ill do so
23:51 Uberi|AoS oh man is someone making a sonic screwdriver?
23:52 NakedFury if you do it most do the sounds
23:52 RealBadAngel i got icon for it, workin on it now
23:52 RealBadAngel can some1 look for sound for it?
23:53 NakedFury http://soundfxnow.com/sound-fx/doctor-who-sonic-screwdriver/
23:55 MuadTralk yes1
23:55 MuadTralk yes!*
23:55 MuadTralk it must be this
23:56 NekoGloop will we be able to unlock chests? ;)
23:56 MuadTralk just make sure it doesnt do wood
23:56 NekoGloop it can open wood things... cant it?
23:57 MuadTralk what screwdriver are we talking about?
23:58 NekoGloop sonic

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