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00:01 NekoGloop Is noone looking at the channel? >.>
00:02 VanessaE there.
00:02 VanessaE I was working on a tweak to mesecons
00:03 VanessaE nodebox-based wall levers
00:03 NekoGloop Oh
00:03 NekoGloop Did you try gloopores yet?
00:03 VanessaE not yet
00:03 NekoGloop Can you do so? :3
00:04 GTRsdk NekoGloop: I already did that earlier, but I haven't seen any different blocks yet...
00:05 NekoGloop Try a new map. The thing glitches occasionally.
00:05 NekoGloop Something i edited in moreores code, since moreores doesnt do the same.
00:06 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_232371130.png
00:06 NekoGloop Also try a different chunk, it doesnt generate in the chunk youre in.
00:06 VanessaE NekoGloop: ^^ that is what I was doing, in case you're curious :-)
00:06 NekoGloop That is awesome vanessae
00:08 NekoGloop GTRsdk: Did you get it to work?
00:09 GTRsdk just wait... booting main minetest computer for testing
00:09 NekoGloop Ah
00:13 * NekoGloop is bored with waiting... >.>
00:17 NekoGloop GTRsdk: How long does it take to boot? O.o
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00:32 NekoGloop HELLOOOOOOOOOO!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!!!?!?!
00:33 VanessaE now's about the time of day that the channel tends to go dead
00:33 VanessaE from about 20:00 to about 01:00 or so (EST)
00:34 NekoGloop Shiat
00:34 VanessaE all the westerners wind down for bed, all the easterners go to work :-)
00:40 NekoGloop And anyone in between doesnt give a shit and/or doesnt speak english.
00:45 OldCoder Hmm
00:45 OldCoder Plenty of Westerners left
00:45 NekoGloop Hm?
00:46 VanessaE OldCoder: I was half-joking :-)
00:47 NekoGloop Plenty of westeners left, like me. Assuming you mean westerners as in america.
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00:49 GTRsdk NekoGloop: I'm on now
00:49 GTRsdk was just doing other stuff
00:49 OldCoder VanessaE, I am literal :-)
00:49 NekoGloop Well, did you try gloopores yet?
00:59 * NekoGloop yawns dramatically
01:07 servvs hey so everyone here is pretty well versed in LUA I assume?
01:07 VanessaE many of us are, but some are not
01:07 VanessaE what's the question?
01:07 servvs I am not, but anyway
01:07 servvs I know how to write to a file
01:08 servvs so lets say I want to make a spawn script where I can type /setspawn
01:08 servvs and write the coords to the text file
01:08 servvs after that I am stuck with 2 problems
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01:09 servvs if I type /setspawn again it will append the next set of coords to the end of the line rather than overwrite it
01:09 servvs also, how would I read a variable from that file?
01:10 VanessaE no clue
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01:11 servvs lol ok, I will read more into it
01:11 NekoGloop Hm?
01:14 GTRsdk NekoGloop: I see the gloop stuff! :D
01:15 NekoGloop Red is edible and torch-making :3
01:15 GTRsdk looks like Cyan in the disstance
01:15 GTRsdk now if only if I could get the server to stop poofing me back :-/
01:16 NekoGloop Cyan? Desert Stone ore?
01:16 GTRsdk "moved too fast; resetting position"
01:16 GTRsdk yeah I'm in the desert
01:16 NekoGloop It's just used for blocks, nothing special.
01:17 NekoGloop Really just a test of if I could make it generate in desert stone.
01:17 NekoGloop And it worked, lookit that.
01:17 GTRsdk I got coal and akalin from desert stone-looking blocks... Cool!
01:18 NekoGloop The ore you really want is Kalite, found below 20y, I believe.
01:18 NekoGloop It's edible.
01:18 NekoGloop And makes torches.
01:18 NekoGloop Obvious MC Aether reference is obvious, no?
01:19 GTRsdk so does it make torches and sticks are required, or does it just do torches with nothing special added?
01:20 cornernote my up/down pistons got accepted to mesecons =)
01:21 NekoGloop Kalite Ore above a Stick makes a Kalite Torch, yes.
01:22 NekoGloop cornernote, good for you :3
01:23 NekoGloop I'm so going to build something in a singleplayer world with all my mods and share my map :3
01:32 GTRsdk NekoGloop: what is Alkin good for?
01:34 NekoGloop alakin is used to make purty blocks
01:34 NekoGloop nothing more
01:40 NekoGloop GTRsdk: Have you found anything else yet, besides Alakin?
01:41 GTRsdk Alatro :D
01:41 GTRsdk and Arol
01:41 NekoGloop oh, but no Kalite yet?
01:42 cornernote VanessaE - are you going to nodebox the mesecon wires ?
01:42 NekoGloop lol you got the two tool making ores.
01:42 cornernote like how RBA did his electricity cables
01:43 GTRsdk I'm just digging down a hole
01:43 NekoGloop What y are you at?
01:44 sdzen yes i know that too
01:44 GTRsdk -146
01:44 sdzen shit why did i type that :P
01:45 sdzen forget anything i just typed
01:45 VanessaE cornernote: already did but my code has not been implemented yet because it's nowhere near done
01:45 NekoGloop Get down to -512, GTRsdk
01:45 VanessaE cornernote: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/wires-screenshot-20120808.png
01:45 VanessaE that's what I have so far ^^^^^
01:46 VanessaE the nodes look beautiful (though my textures are too noisy).
01:46 VanessaE I'm going to thin them down to 2x1 pixel cross-section (currently 2x2 c-s)
01:46 MiJyn nice
01:46 VanessaE I can't for the life of me get the autoplace code right
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01:47 VanessaE the best I was able to get so far was autoplacing along X/Z - that worked fine.  Try to go up or down and it all went to hell.
01:47 VanessaE so I threw it all out and went back to just the defined nodes in that image
01:49 GTRsdk NekoGloop: is the Alatro pick not capable of mining mese?
01:49 NekoGloop idk maybe
01:50 * GTRsdk couldn't get it to start cracking
01:50 GTRsdk darn... I built a wood pick hopign it could mine mese
01:50 GTRsdk couldn't
01:51 NekoGloop neither can mine {cracky=1}
01:51 NekoGloop try arol
01:53 NekoGloop Damn, my current singleplayer map has a sh*tload of alatro
01:53 NekoGloop Have any kalite yet, GTRsdk?
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01:57 cornernote VanessaE - would you be able to share your code ?
01:57 cornernote i wouldnt mind having a look
01:57 Keegan_ My server got grieft by emmett
01:57 NekoGloop cool
01:57 Keegan_ and his friends
01:57 cornernote maybe we can work out how to get the up to work
01:57 NekoGloop what do you want me to do about it?
01:58 Keegan_ f you see ghostshell tell him for me
01:58 NekoGloop who dat
01:59 GTRsdk NekoGloop: nope, got down to -292
01:59 NekoGloop Kalite starts at 20y.
01:59 NekoGloop surprised you dont have any yet
02:01 NakedFury did you use default world gen or the marktraceur modified moreores worldgen by calinou ?
02:01 GTRsdk just default world gen
02:02 NekoGloop the moreores one
02:02 NekoGloop I edited it so it used all the right names and such
02:03 NekoGloop I need an alatro axe nao lol
02:05 khonkhortisan I don't think it's possible to make a node remove itself ten seconds after it was placed
02:05 NekoGloop Er... As long as you get the rest of the ores correctly, you should be getting Kalite
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02:06 GTRsdk huh... I thought an Atom N450 would be enough for a Minetest server
02:07 GTRsdk but when mining quite a bit... and other stuff open on it, it slows down, so blocks reappear
02:07 * GTRsdk wonders how well a POWER4 would do
02:07 GTRsdk with 8 GB RAM :)
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02:08 khonkhortisan hahahaha!
02:09 khonkhortisan I found out why removing my node in on_construct worked but removing it in on_timer didn't.
02:09 khonkhortisan the pos used in on_construct is (0, 8, 29) while the pos used in on_timer is (0, 8, 13)
02:10 khonkhortisan the first pos is correct and a random node was removed at the second pos
02:12 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPjW_9KZo8M&feature=related
02:12 darkrose second one's using block position instead of world position, it's a bug
02:13 khonkhortisan on_construct tells me my node was placed at (29, 22, 44) but on_timer is telling me I should remove the node at (13, 6, 12)
02:14 VanessaE there.
02:14 VanessaE wires thinned down.
02:14 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/wires-screenshot-20120808.png
02:14 VanessaE (reload it)
02:14 khonkhortisan why am I getting the wrong position?
02:14 VanessaE (also switched to showing their "off" states)
02:14 darkrose on_timer's using block position instead of world position, it's a bug
02:15 khonkhortisan is there some kind of this:get_pos() I can use?
02:15 NekoGloop idk
02:15 khonkhortisan or a way to store the position because I do have the correct one at the start?
02:15 NekoGloop smack the values in local variables
02:19 khonkhortisan the local variable seems to be getting stuck in on_construct and too local to move to on_timer
02:20 NekoGloop then make it global and stop whining
02:21 VanessaE dammit
02:21 VanessaE just when I was about to link to the code
02:22 NekoGloop random crash?
02:22 VanessaE *shrug* dunno
02:22 VanessaE I'll wait for him to return
02:22 VanessaE I was about to give the link to cornernote for those wires in the screenshot
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02:22 NekoGloop ah
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02:45 khonkhortisan I can't store the pos in the meta because I need the pos to get it back :)
02:46 leo_rockway save the pos in a file
02:47 khonkhortisan then how do I get the correct one back if many nodes have stored their positions?
02:47 leo_rockway you read the file
02:47 leo_rockway store the info in the file as a table
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02:58 GTRsdk I found a red ore-ed block :D
02:58 VanessaE Kalite
02:58 VanessaE that's the edible one
02:59 khonkhortisan an edible ore?
03:00 VanessaE so it seems :-)
03:00 khonkhortisan I see the code where it's giving the block pos in on_timer
03:00 GTRsdk 4 of em
03:00 VanessaE besides, salt is edible (in small quantities) and it's arguably an ore
03:01 khonkhortisan salt can preserve food
03:01 * GTRsdk thinks of the red as kool-aid ore, just not watered down :D
03:01 leo_rockway ore-o
03:03 GTRsdk lol
03:04 GTRsdk Kalite tasting like kool-aid\
03:04 GTRsdk seems reasonable, doesn't it?
03:08 VanessaE heh
03:12 * GTRsdk should probably sign up at minetest forums and see about getting notified about new stuff
03:12 GTRsdk I've missed so much!
03:15 khonkhortisan if I always use wood picks I have ore blocks left over for decoration
03:15 khonkhortisan but that's past my patience
03:16 GTRsdk thhen you mod the wood pick
03:16 GTRsdk and perhaps even the recipe for it
03:23 GTRsdk Is it possible to have a minetest server go down for updates from a script (I'm thinking about setting up a bash script to have it go down every day at a certain time or so)?
03:23 khonkhortisan sure
03:23 GTRsdk I don't want the world corrupted, so I don't think killall minetest is an option
03:26 khonkhortisan killall minetestserver makes it say Terminated so it might be exiting nicely
03:26 khonkhortisan or another way says 20:27:03: INFO: sigint_handler(): Ctrl-C pressed, shutting down.
03:33 GTRsdk khonkhortisan: is it possible to have it automatically CTRL+C?
03:40 VanessaE killall without a signal should just sent SIGQUIT by default
03:40 VanessaE or SIGTERM, I forget which
03:40 VanessaE so the program should die gracefully.
03:40 leo_rockway SIGTERM
03:41 GTRsdk looks like it died gracefully as the world still works
03:43 GTRsdk so then a script to start & daemonize minetest, then to kill it in 24 horus for updating
03:44 GTRsdk actually, it might be best (if on a development world) to just nuke the world and start over
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03:45 leo_rockway GTRsdk: if you don't know about nohup, I guess it would come handy.
03:46 Azn err..
03:46 Azn i have a little problem here
03:46 Azn freenode.net doesnt seem to work on pidgin
03:46 GTRsdk I've used it before, just still a bit new to nohup
03:46 GTRsdk Azn: wrong channel for that... try #pidgin or #freenode
03:47 Azn o.o?
03:47 Azn #pidgin
03:47 Azn brb
03:47 leo_rockway nohup minetest server &
03:47 leo_rockway oops
03:47 leo_rockway minetestserver*
03:47 GTRsdk is it that simple? last I used it, I had to specify logging directories and other stuff...
03:50 leo_rockway if you don't specify a directory it uses pwd
03:50 leo_rockway and it saves to nohup.out
03:52 GTRsdk is irrlicht required for building just the minetest server?
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04:11 GTRsdk looks like it is
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04:41 Forum hi
04:42 Forum hello
04:42 leo_rockway greetings
04:42 Forum how do you make a forum
04:43 Forum im sick of the minetest forum
04:43 Forum any sites
04:43 NakedFury why are you sick of it?
04:43 Forum well
04:43 leo_rockway so, you're sick of the minetest forum... and you think it's on topic to ask about fora in general in the minetest channel... just because you're sick of the minetest forum o.o
04:44 Forum i posted a texture pack i clllled  fork or new version
04:45 Forum then it got deleted because it was in the wrong section
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04:45 Forum so i reposted it in the releated projects page
04:45 leo_rockway there's a section for texture packs
04:46 Forum and segfault22  started harrassing me
04:46 Forum i know
04:46 NakedFury you are mallot1
04:46 Forum but i tought it was a new versiion
04:46 Forum and yes i m
04:47 VanessaE the forum has rules
04:47 VanessaE learn to adhere to them and there won't be any problems
04:47 Forum so i typed in caps because i got my c out f shop and the cap button stopped working and i was stuck in caps
04:48 Forum i got my pc out of shop
04:48 Forum so i got banned for caps
04:48 Forum what da heck
04:48 GTRsdk fix your heyboard
04:49 VanessaE ALL CAPS IS SCREAMING!!!
04:49 VanessaE that's why.
04:49 Forum i know i got it fixed
04:49 VanessaE see how it looks out of context?
04:49 leo_rockway WRONG, CAPS IS AUTOPILOT FOR COOLNESS!
04:49 Forum ok
04:49 GTRsdk autopilot is caps lock
04:49 Forum well i went back
04:49 VanessaE Forum: if you find yourself typing in all caps, you *cancel the message* and wait until the problem is fixed
04:50 VanessaE don't act stupid.
04:50 Forum s  new accoount to apologize and got banned again
04:50 Forum i also dont think caps really matter
04:51 Forum so i want to make a new forum
04:51 VanessaE caps DO matter.
04:51 Forum i talked to celeron
04:51 VanessaE These are rules that have been in place since before the Internet was invented for crying out loud.
04:51 Forum he never anwsered
04:52 VanessaE I saw the message you wrote
04:52 VanessaE it's no surprise he didn't respond.
04:52 leo_rockway celeron probably doesn't care about forum drama.
04:52 VanessaE generally he doesn't but mostly he doesn't have time to deal with it.
04:52 NakedFury he will just insult you further
04:53 VanessaE mallott if you were to find some other forum, you will get banned from there too because your behavior sucks.
04:53 leo_rockway somehow Minetest being free as in beer Minecraft seems to attract a lot of people that say "I'm 12 and what's this"...
04:54 leo_rockway which is not always a bad thing, but it can get out of control fast.
04:54 GTRsdk yeah
04:54 leo_rockway so the forum has a netiquette and it needs to be followed so things stay cool.
04:54 VanessaE exactly.
04:54 VanessaE forum/mallot how old are you?
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05:47 NakedFury 12.5
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06:33 vicscandl guh!
06:34 vicscandl VanessaE: sorry i've been gone, work rush...
06:34 vicscandl bonus tho, have thru monday, noon PST off!!!
06:34 VanessaE I wondered where you'd gotten to
06:35 vicscandl effing work
06:35 vicscandl damnit, i said the w*** word here... sorry all!
06:36 vicscandl also... my town has been moving around... two 4.5 earthquakes in < 12h yesterday
06:36 vicscandl total of something like 35+ ranging from 0.9 to 4.5, average being about 2.3
06:37 vicscandl southern california has moved into DEFCON shake-n-bake
06:40 NakedFury I like how you included that Talageda nights reference
06:41 vicscandl NakedFury: was not going there, but yea, works out... :)
06:42 VanessaE wow, a 4.5 can do some damage
06:42 VanessaE (a little anyway)
06:42 vicscandl my house moved around and the kid was freaked the hell out man... the second big one was a massive jolt, and like 20 min later a 3.2 was like a semi-truck going by for like 30sec
06:43 vicscandl {{ data collection due to my son's new found interest in earthquakes }}
06:44 vicscandl VanessaE: working on the algae as fuel and some input screens for my mod. have new IP space on cable so i can DMZ a box for you to connect to in a day or so
06:44 NakedFury check out xyz sign mod
06:44 NakedFury finally we can have true signs
06:44 VanessaE oh yes, xyz's signs mod is nice
06:45 VanessaE already added experimental support for it in my tex pack
06:45 NakedFury nice? its genius
06:45 * vicscandl shows you a one-fingered sign...
06:45 VanessaE and xyz says he'll add yard signs (ala MC) tomorrow
06:45 NakedFury yard signs?
06:46 vicscandl V, should i pull all your git repos that i use? about to do testing
06:46 vicscandl i think i'm a week out
06:47 vicscandl nm, there was, crossing fingers
06:48 VanessaE yeah, most stuff has received some update or another recently.
07:15 VanessaE ahh much better.  nice clean nightgown
07:27 vicscandl guh, spawning an item. don't want to if there is already an item in that node... codesample?
07:28 vicscandl just not seeing it trying to read from api docs
07:28 vicscandl grrrrrrrrr
07:37 VanessaE check for node pos=Y+1, look for "air".
07:37 vicscandl not working
07:37 vicscandl i'm not generating a node above, but an item
07:37 vicscandl :)
07:38 vicscandl lookng at mesecons code for example, think i found it in the detector code
07:38 vicscandl no real docs for get_objects_inside_radius()... winging it. :)
07:41 vicscandl not equal in lua: !=, <>, or ~= (thinkng third)
07:50 VanessaE the last one,
07:50 VanessaE ~=
07:51 vicscandl grrrr somehow broke my toy
07:51 vicscandl :(
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07:56 VanessaE :(
07:57 NakedFury cant sleep
07:57 VanessaE sowwy
07:57 vicscandl i'll be here for an hour or so...
07:59 vicscandl stuck on figuring out if the generator has already produced an item in the node above, then i don't want to add another one.... right now is "single-stacking" multiple items on each run of the abm action
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08:01 MrRatermat Question: Why are builds so slow?
08:02 vicscandl MrRatermat: you prob run redmond, so thats a starting point...
08:03 MrRatermat Can you explain?
08:03 MrRatermat Redmond?
08:03 vicscandl ahhhh kids these days...
08:03 vicscandl :)
08:03 vicscandl MrRatermat: windows = redmond
08:03 MrRatermat No, no, I mean, there are not many updates anymore
08:04 vicscandl build != update, sorry. your vernacular confused me.
08:04 MrRatermat Yeah
08:04 vicscandl try asking that question on #minetest-dev
08:04 MrRatermat Ok
08:04 MrRatermat Thanks
08:04 vicscandl this is more modders...
08:05 Smilex isn't it #minetest-delta ?
08:05 MrRatermat I make a terrible modder for LUA then
08:05 vicscandl {{ not that i'm some sort of authority }}
08:05 vicscandl yea, delta, sorry
08:05 vicscandl ((i'm on too many irc channels at the same time. i lose track))
08:05 MrRatermat eheh
08:06 MrRatermat I think having the entire game on a multiplayer only platform, with only 1 player for singleplayer, is BRILLIANT
08:07 Smilex how so?
08:07 MrRatermat It works so well for modding AND development AND makes the engine easier to understand
08:07 * vicscandl has a text fetish...
08:07 MrRatermat Instead of having 2 sectors of the game
08:07 MrRatermat SP and MP
08:08 Smilex have you tried understanding other engines that didn't do this? And if so, and if they were hard to understand, could you factually explain why that was hardwer to understand?
08:08 vicscandl ouch
08:09 Smilex s/hardwer/harder
08:09 MrRatermat Oh dont get so picky, it only showed a point
08:09 NakedFury I think he means that here you make a mod and it works for both single player and multiplayer
08:09 MrRatermat Yeah
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08:10 MrRatermat Is it possible to use billboarding?
08:10 Smilex MrRatermat: yet there was no point, also I'm just, as Cartman would say, breaking your balls. Thing is, this is not a new method of doing things, and you wouldn't notice a blind bit of difference on the modding side, if the code was implemented well.
08:11 * vicscandl offers Smilex a box of cookies...
08:11 * MrRatermat offers Smilex his life
08:11 Smilex vicscandl: well thank you, should go well with the tea
08:11 MrRatermat BRAVO
08:12 * vicscandl sends a box of english tea bisciuts for a better tea time...
08:13 vicscandl just loaded up the french press myself...
08:13 Smilex vicscandl: problem is, I'm not that much into tea, just have to decrease the amount of coffee I drink, a bit. And tea is a decent substitute
08:13 vicscandl is it the acidity from the coffee, or are you getting hit with the caffine reduction ceremony?
08:14 Smilex just having a hard time sleeping the past month, and I'm isolating the reason
08:15 vicscandl aye; get the same way. coffee induced insommia.
08:15 vicscandl strange as it sounds; change your pillow.
08:16 FreeFull I mostly drink water
08:16 Smilex some voodoo trick?
08:16 MrRatermat I already have to change my pillow twice a week
08:16 MrRatermat I definatly have to get my sweat glads removed.
08:16 Smilex voodoo, as in, for lack of a better word, but intending to say that it's one of those phenomena(sic?), where just by believing, you change things
08:17 vicscandl yea, something about altering the way your neck sits
08:18 Smilex I could try it, don't see why not
08:18 * VanessaE pokes at cornernote for signs of life
08:18 vicscandl Smilex: cheaper and safer than drugs mate!
08:20 Smilex i'm trying to read up on this new fancy lua api, and in the Nodes section, it talks about reserved params and it just throws in the name 'paramtype'. Is paramtype a member of the Node class, or is it something else entierly?
08:29 jin_xi morning everyone
08:29 MrRatermat Morniiiiiin
08:30 * darkrose pokes at VanessaE, just 'cuz
08:30 * vicscandl waves
08:30 * VanessaE pokes darkrose back :-)
08:30 darkrose \o/
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08:54 cornernote hi darkrose
08:54 VanessaE cornernote: *poke*
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08:55 VanessaE cornernote: you asked earlier about nodebox mesecons wires.  Here's what I have so far:  https://github.com/VanessaE/wires
08:55 VanessaE (screenshot link in the readme)
09:00 cornernote i have been testing the minetest.get_craft_recipe() function, and i think its broke sometimes
09:00 cornernote works: minetest.register_craft({output = '"mod:item_a" 2', recipe = {{"mod:item_b"}}})
09:00 cornernote does not works: minetest.register_craft({output = 'mod:item_a 2', recipe = {{"mod:item_b"}}})
09:00 cornernote so if you write output with internal quotes then it does not seem to work
09:01 VanessaE sounds like a leftovre
09:01 VanessaE a while back you needed those extra quotes.
09:01 VanessaE not anymore
09:01 VanessaE c55 must have missed that bit.
09:01 VanessaE or I'm misreading
09:04 cornernote yes, thats the issue
09:05 cornernote i made an issue on github
09:05 cornernote https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/206
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09:05 cornernote see the problem is ALL the old mods have those internal quotes
09:05 cornernote should parse either way
09:06 NekoGloop Wat
09:17 NekoGloop Hello #minetest'ers.
09:23 NekoGloop Uh... Dead channel STILL...
09:23 vicscandl yep
09:24 MrRatermat warrior is small like sheep.
09:36 * VanessaE pokes at sfan5|OFF for signs of life
09:39 vicscandl zzzzzzzzz
09:41 VanessaE damn it he's never around :-)
09:43 thexyz don't you see that "OFF" at the end of his nickname?
09:43 MrRatermat :D
09:43 VanessaE of course, but I got so used to people indicating away when they really aren't that it was worth a try :-)
09:44 thexyz but that one is added by his bouncer when he's not connected to it
09:44 VanessaE ahh
09:44 MrRatermat Just another IRC toy.
09:45 NekoGloop Meow~
09:45 * MrRatermat glares
09:45 NekoGloop Meow~?
09:46 Calinou hi
09:46 MrRatermat ~'o'~
09:48 NekoGloop Oh, hey, calinou, i have a question
09:48 NekoGloop I made gloopores, which uses some (ok, a lot) of moreores code.
09:48 NekoGloop Is this ok?
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09:51 NekoGloop He's back, vanessae.
09:53 * VanessaE waits for him to actually speak this time ;-)
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09:54 RealBadAngel hi
09:54 RealBadAngel whassup?
09:54 VanessaE hey RBA
09:54 NekoGloop Ello rba
09:55 NekoGloop Got the code working yet? :3
09:55 RealBadAngel got
09:55 RealBadAngel testing it now
09:55 VanessaE sfan5: re: particles - can you re-center the torch smoke, make it spawn more often, and also reposition the mesecons wires particles so they're right above the wire?  right now everything tends to spawn off to the sides or way too high
09:56 RealBadAngel there will be shitload of work for me today
09:57 RealBadAngel make crafting guides for like 30 items
09:57 Calinou NekoGloop, yes, it is
09:57 NekoGloop Ok thanks @ calinou
09:57 RealBadAngel make new screenshots
09:57 Calinou the GPL license allows you to do anything, except changing the license towards a restrictive one.
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09:57 Calinou you MUST release the source (you do so anyway unless you compile your mod)
09:58 Calinou and WTFPL (for textures) allows you to do anything
09:58 Calinou so feel free to take the textures and edit them
09:58 NekoGloop Lol the textures you have are only edits of default.
09:58 RealBadAngel @calinou: i will comment code like: that is made by Calinou
09:58 Calinou yep, the default pack is under wtfpl
09:58 RealBadAngel hope you will be pleased
09:59 Calinou don't use "@" on irc, it doesn't highlight on some clients
09:59 Calinou fortunately, it does for xchat
09:59 MrRatermat But not MIRC
09:59 Calinou mIRC can go fuck itself
09:59 Calinou if you know what I mean
09:59 MrRatermat Sure
09:59 NekoGloop I said "-- Original code by Calinou" and the other two that i cant remember atm.
09:59 MrRatermat And xchat can go fuck itself too
09:59 PilzAdam I dont think programms can fuck themselvs
09:59 RealBadAngel im not usin plugins to get that
09:59 RealBadAngel i just type @
09:59 Calinou GPL doesn't enforce attribution, IIRC, but feel free to do so :P
10:00 NekoGloop I credited the people that are listed in the code.
10:01 RealBadAngel when usin something good its natural to give credits
10:02 RealBadAngel adding new ore with just changin the name... and call it new mod
10:02 RealBadAngel its stupid. rude even
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10:03 NekoGloop Calinou, have you tryed gloopores yet?
10:03 RealBadAngel hhehe
10:04 RealBadAngel hope you dont mind ;)
10:06 Calinou no
10:09 * NekoGloop yawns
10:09 NekoGloop I'm tired o.o
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10:36 NekoGloop I'm just gonna go now if noone is gonna do anything
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11:37 NekoGloop hello again
11:38 MrRatermat Hello
11:38 VanessaE hey
11:38 NekoGloop lol
11:38 NekoGloop Should I see if I can make an extension of mesecons? I feel like doing something slightly more challenging than extra blocks.
11:39 VanessaE not right now
11:39 VanessaE jeija's working on some new stuff
11:39 NekoGloop why not?
11:39 NekoGloop ah
11:39 NekoGloop do you know what?
11:39 VanessaE let's see what he comes up with first, lest you end up doing double work :-)
11:39 VanessaE hm?
11:39 NekoGloop do you know what he's working on
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11:40 VanessaE not precisely
11:40 NekoGloop ok
11:41 VanessaE latest development is a programmable microcontroller
11:41 MrRatermat REALLY?
11:41 MrRatermat :D
11:41 VanessaE yup
11:42 MrRatermat WAAAAAAAAAAANT
11:42 MrRatermat :D
11:42 VanessaE get it from github :-)
11:42 VanessaE https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons
11:42 NekoGloop you can make signals go in a programmed direction
11:42 MrRatermat I love this stuff
11:42 NekoGloop Someone PLEASE give me a download link since github hates me
11:43 MrRatermat https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/zipball/master
11:43 VanessaE NekoGloop: you can make signals go in a programmed behavior entirely
11:43 NekoGloop oh, repeating singals, eh?
11:43 VanessaE well for example you can make a flip-flop
11:43 VanessaE AND/OR/NOR/etc gates
11:44 NekoGloop Oh I know, if(!A)then(A) to repeat a singl out of A?
11:45 NekoGloop or would it be if(A)off(A) if(!A)on(A)
11:45 MrRatermat Now all I have to do is forcably marry the lead developer...
11:46 NekoGloop I dont think that he'd like that xD
11:46 VanessaE neko:  Not sire, I've not done anything with it myself except some basic testing
11:46 NekoGloop Well as soon as windows explorer stops being crap I'll unzip it :P
11:47 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPjW_9KZo8M :3
11:49 NekoGloop crafting recipe?
11:49 VanessaE S S M
11:49 VanessaE S S M
11:49 VanessaE M M .
11:49 VanessaE M = mesecon wire, S = silicon lump
11:49 VanessaE (I forget how silicon is made)
11:50 MrRatermat :D
11:50 NekoGloop I know
11:50 NekoGloop I think
11:50 NekoGloop Wonderful thing called Notepad++ can help with that
11:51 NekoGloop Sand Sand
11:51 NekoGloop Sand Sand
11:51 NekoGloop No, not that
11:51 NekoGloop Sand Sand
11:51 VanessaE that's sandstone
11:51 NekoGloop Sand StellIngot
11:51 VanessaE right, that's it
11:51 NekoGloop SteelIngot*
11:52 NekoGloop I know what I meant
11:52 NekoGloop SHIT ATTACK OF THE GRAVEL xD
11:52 MrRatermat I hate gravel, gravel hates me
11:53 MrRatermat Its a massive war between me and the millions of gravel in the earth
11:53 NekoGloop lol
11:53 MrRatermat I am destined to beat those scumbag soldiers that keep crushing me
11:53 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPjW_9KZo8M ding dong...
11:53 MrRatermat And blocking my paths
11:54 PilzAdam I have released my map mod: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2747
11:55 PilzAdam Could a moderator please move it to Mod Releases?
11:55 MrRatermat This is the modding room?
11:55 OldCoder MrRatermat, it is a developer channel
11:55 MrRatermat I dont know anything
11:55 OldCoder MrRatermat, We all feel that way in life sometimes :-)
11:56 MrRatermat I know everything
11:56 MrRatermat :D
11:56 OldCoder Good
11:56 MrRatermat I dont
11:56 OldCoder You feel conflicted
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11:56 MrRatermat 'o'
11:56 OldCoder ._.
11:56 NekoGloop Wha.... what the hell? Akalin, desert coal, and desert iron, all in a little row... those three only generate in the desert and I'm about 200-300 blocks from any deserts... O.O
11:59 NekoGloop Dont know if it's glitching or some... thing put them there...
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11:59 MrRatermat2 Damn
12:00 MrRatermat2 Ping timeout please, body account
12:00 * MrRatermat2 slaps MrRatermat around a bit with a large trout
12:00 MrRatermat2 C'mon
12:00 NekoGloop lol
12:00 MrRatermat2 Disconnect!!
12:00 MrRatermat2 I WANT TO USE MY NAME AGAIN
12:00 NekoGloop YOU MUST EAT IT
12:00 MrRatermat2 Oh, please god no...
12:01 MrRatermat2 Yay!]
12:01 MrRatermat2 Yay!
12:01 thexyz MrRatermat2: /msg NickServ ghost
12:01 MrRatermat What does that do?
12:02 NekoGloop Meow~ :3
12:02 NekoGloop Hi thexyz :3
12:02 MrRatermat What does it do?
12:02 thexyz MrRatermat: if you use it like /msg NickServ ghost MrRatermat [your_password] that'll kick MrRatermat
12:02 MrRatermat OK
12:02 thexyz so you may then take this nickname
12:02 MrRatermat OK
12:04 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPjW_9KZo8M ding dong...
12:16 NekoGloop he's notkrayon
12:19 NekoGloop Hey, VanessaE, whatcha up to?
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12:19 VanessaE working on some textures
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12:19 samuncle_ hello everybody
12:19 MrRatermat I working on birds
12:19 samuncle_ How I can help you ?
12:20 samuncle_ I can work for graphic art
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12:20 MrRatermat They move relisticly by using a pulse+random
12:20 NekoGloop I do fine for graphics, if I sit down and do them lol
12:20 MrRatermat And render turning using CoSine
12:22 NekoGloop Anyone know why an ore set to generate in desert stone randomly appears on the surface of a normal grassland?
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12:23 xorius pls, help 2 me
12:23 xorius how to install a texture pack?
12:23 MrRatermat ):|
12:24 NekoGloop Uhm... open your config file, and set the texture pack thingy to the directory of the texture pack
12:25 PilzAdam http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Installing_texture_packs
12:25 xorius thx)))
12:29 PilzAdam I have released my map mod: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2747
12:29 PilzAdam Could a moderator please move it to Mod Releases?
12:29 NekoGloop It doesnt seem that useful, at least to me
12:30 NekoGloop You could easily just remember the landscape or even write down some coordinates.
12:30 PilzAdam sure its useless but fun
12:31 thexyz moved
12:31 PilzAdam thx
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12:31 NekoGloop I would have to install python :P
12:31 PilzAdam its only tested on linux
12:32 NekoGloop lol so not on windows?
12:32 PilzAdam the mod is an easy in-game use of the minetestmapper
12:32 PilzAdam i dont have windows with python so cant try it
12:32 PilzAdam but it could work
12:33 PilzAdam it would be awesome if you could test it
12:34 NekoGloop is python free
12:34 MrRatermat Yes
12:34 NekoGloop then a link?
12:34 MrRatermat Go find it yourself
12:35 NekoGloop then i dont test it
12:35 MrRatermat Im not invloved
12:36 MrRatermat involved*
12:36 MrRatermat Go to google
12:36 PilzAdam search: "python download windows"
12:37 PilzAdam german link: http://www.heise.de/download/python-117192.html
12:37 NekoGloop lolno
12:37 NekoGloop i dont speak or read german
12:37 darkrose http://lmddgtfy.net/?q=python+download+windows
12:37 thexyz http://python.org/
12:38 thexyz was that so hard?
12:38 NekoGloop yes it was
12:38 NekoGloop considering i have to multitask with more than what I'm doing on this computer
12:39 NekoGloop python 2.7 or 3.2?
12:40 PilzAdam ive tested it with 2.7
12:40 thexyz pil doesn't work with python 3
12:41 NekoGloop its webpages like python.org that make me feel like I jsut dont have the mental capacity to understand
12:41 NekoGloop WHICH FREAKIN DOWNLOAD
12:42 NekoGloop There are 4 windows downloads...
12:42 NekoGloop just for 2.7.3...
12:43 PilzAdam you have x86
12:43 PilzAdam ?
12:43 RealBadAngel had same feelin with lua tables
12:43 NekoGloop wtf is x86
12:43 RealBadAngel lol
12:43 PilzAdam here: python.org/ftp/python/2.7.3/python-2.7.3.msi
12:44 RealBadAngel intel's 86 line of CPU's
12:44 RealBadAngel where r u from? mars?
12:44 NekoGloop I'm like "I WANT F*CKING ENGLISH"
12:44 RealBadAngel its like shut the f*ck up
12:45 NekoGloop I have intel 4 HT thingy
12:45 RealBadAngel its been there alwyas and since the beggining
12:45 NekoGloop computer itself is refurbished.
12:45 VanessaE NekoGloop: x86 means the 386, 486, etc CPU line, including modern stuff like the Pentium and Core series.
12:45 VanessaE ot also refers to the AMD equivalents like Opteron or Phenom
12:46 VanessaE particularly when running 32-bit code.
12:46 RealBadAngel even XT and AT
12:46 VanessaE (otherwise it's called x86_64 for 64-bit code)
12:46 NekoGloop OH LOOK SOMEONE WHO CAN TRANSLATE THE UTTER STUPIDITY OF THE PYTHON WEBPAGE >.>
12:46 VanessaE RealBadAngel: no, not XT/AT.  Those were 8088. :-)
12:46 RealBadAngel first 16 it was at
12:46 RealBadAngel 286
12:46 PilzAdam NekoGloop,  this link will work for you: python.org/ftp/python/2.7.3/python-2.7.3.msi
12:46 RealBadAngel and was called AT
12:46 VanessaE er right, I tend to forget about the AT
12:46 VanessaE still, XT was not a 286 :-)
12:47 NekoGloop 1) that's not a link
12:47 thexyz NekoGloop: that's not python site's stupidity :P
12:47 NekoGloop 2) I already got it
12:47 PilzAdam k
12:47 PilzAdam pls download version 2 of my mod
12:47 PilzAdam version 1 dont work
12:47 NekoGloop thexyz: I know what you're implying
12:48 * NekoGloop yawns dramatically
12:50 * RealBadAngel sets inrterrupt on vertical refresh
12:50 NekoGloop wha...?
12:50 RealBadAngel if yelled dp shoot
12:51 RealBadAngel end,
12:51 RealBadAngel *do
12:51 * NekoGloop yells
12:51 RealBadAngel shoot
12:51 * NekoGloop dodges bullet >:D
12:51 * VanessaE invokes bullet time
12:51 RealBadAngel hehehhee
12:52 RealBadAngel youre lost
12:52 RealBadAngel i mean hit
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12:52 * NekoGloop wonders how the f*ck do I get paper...
12:52 PilzAdam NekoGloop,  /giveme paper 99
12:52 NekoGloop lol
12:52 NekoGloop how to craft it
12:53 PilzAdam paper or map?
12:53 RealBadAngel try /find loacation WC
12:53 NekoGloop PAPER >.>
12:53 PilzAdam a verical line of 3 papyrus
12:53 NekoGloop oh
12:53 NekoGloop k
12:53 PilzAdam *vertical
12:54 NekoGloop LOL could not load ap.png
12:55 NekoGloop mpa.png*
12:55 NekoGloop map.png*
12:55 NekoGloop And its a horizontal line of 3 papyrus ;)
12:56 PilzAdam see debug.txt and search "[map]"
12:56 RealBadAngel ok, i done everything
12:56 RealBadAngel going to take a nap
12:56 RealBadAngel test it a bit
12:56 NekoGloop FINALLY
12:56 RealBadAngel and release
12:57 NekoGloop YOU UPLOADED
12:57 NekoGloop ?*
12:57 RealBadAngel nope
12:57 NekoGloop DAMN YOU
12:57 RealBadAngel need testing
12:57 RealBadAngel already found and fixed 2 nasty bugs
12:58 NekoGloop DAMMIT UPLOAD IT AT LEAST SO I CAN TEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12:58 RealBadAngel today
12:58 NekoGloop You said that two days ago.
12:58 RealBadAngel nope
12:58 RealBadAngel or maybe ;)
12:59 RealBadAngel anyways im quite ready for release
12:59 VanessaE please don't shout, neko
12:59 NekoGloop debug.txt shows "[map] debug:1"
13:00 PilzAdam and the other "[map]" lines?
13:00 PilzAdam i need the lines under: "[map] No map image found. Creating image... (This will take some time)""
13:00 NekoGloop That line does not exist
13:01 PilzAdam is there a texture in map/texture/?
13:01 NekoGloop no
13:01 PilzAdam this line should appear
13:02 PilzAdam try restart
13:02 NekoGloop restart what? The map? The program?
13:02 PilzAdam minetest
13:02 NekoGloop I already did that but wth
13:03 RealBadAngel regenerate
13:03 NekoGloop Let's humor Pilz.
13:03 RealBadAngel hehehehe
13:04 NekoGloop "python" is not recognized as an external or internal command, operable program or batch file
13:04 PilzAdam you know how to configure the PATH variable?
13:04 NekoGloop nope
13:05 PilzAdam you know what a batch file is?
13:05 NekoGloop nope
13:06 PilzAdam could u please tell me the directory where the python.exe is installed?
13:06 Calinou windowsian trying to use python
13:06 Calinou good luck
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13:08 NekoGloop C:\Program Files\python\python.exe
13:08 thexyz add that dir to your PATH
13:08 NekoGloop do what where now?
13:08 thexyz so python can be called like "python.exe", not "C:\Program Files\python\python.exe"
13:08 NekoGloop 1) What is PATH
13:09 NekoGloop 2) Why does it matter
13:09 NekoGloop 3) How do I change it
13:09 PilzAdam edit the init.lua of my mod
13:09 thexyz http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000549.htm
13:09 NekoGloop 4) Why are these things purposefully complex?
13:09 PilzAdam this line: "local result = os.execute("python "..path.."minetestmapper.py -i "..minetest.get_worldpath().." -o "..path.."/textures/map.png")"
13:09 thexyz because. it's. windowz
13:09 thexyz windows is hard for novices
13:10 thexyz simple things go tricky
13:10 PilzAdam change it to "local result = os.execute("C:\Program Files\python\python.exe"..path.."minetestmapper.py -i "..minetest.get_worldpath().." -o "..path.."/textures/map.png")"
13:10 PilzAdam change it to "local result = os.execute("C:\Program Files\python\python.exe "..path.."minetestmapper.py -i "..minetest.get_worldpath().." -o "..path.."/textures/map.png")"
13:10 PilzAdam the second one
13:10 thexyz in linux world everything is simple
13:11 PilzAdam NekoGloop, you dont have to change the path variable
13:11 PilzAdam just do what i just said
13:11 NekoGloop stop promoting OS's. windows is just fine and half of everything only run on windows
13:11 NekoGloop PilzAdam: That didnt fix it
13:11 NekoGloop Same goddamn error
13:11 thexyz oh, yes, i forgot, in windows everything is easy
13:12 thexyz for example, compiling minetest from sources ^^
13:12 thexyz or installing python
13:12 sdzen or running minetestmapper.py which is what i suppose your trying to do
13:12 PilzAdam you have exactly copied the line without quotes?
13:13 PilzAdam ohhh change all / to \
13:13 PilzAdam that should fix it
13:13 NekoGloop Give me about 5 hours to attempt to make sense of 3 people "helping"
13:13 NekoGloop PilzAdam: ... that symbol isnt anywhere in the code. literally.
13:14 PilzAdam you mean the "/"
13:15 NekoGloop oh nice, now an unfinished string. happy now?
13:15 PilzAdam sry change it to \\
13:15 NekoGloop instead of sending me around in circles, how about helping?
13:15 sdzen but circles are fun!
13:15 PilzAdam i will release a windows version
13:15 NekoGloop shut up sdzen
13:16 NekoGloop Yeah, release one that's compatible with the most widely used OS as your last objective. Yup, that'll work.
13:16 thexyz awww, those windows fags are so rude =(
13:17 sdzen and thats their main arguement 9 times out of 10
13:17 VanessaE NekoGloop: linux is the most widely used OS now.
13:17 thexyz being so rude is strange
13:18 VanessaE (thanks mostly to Android)
13:18 thexyz minetest is released for windows, although windows is worst platform for minetest
13:19 NekoGloop honestly, i dont know if you all are just trolling me or being semi-sincere >.>
13:19 NekoGloop so I'll just shut up now
13:19 sdzen hmmm i would have thought mac would be worse
13:19 NekoGloop not test PilzAdam's mod
13:19 NekoGloop etc.
13:19 thexyz maybe, but who cares about macs?
13:19 sdzen good point
13:19 sdzen mac fags do
13:19 NekoGloop better yet: who gives a crap about linux?
13:20 Calinou lol
13:20 Calinou PilzAdam, you need PIL too
13:20 Calinou python imaging library
13:20 Calinou random EXE time :|
13:20 thexyz NekoGloop: i think most people on this channel
13:20 thexyz if we're talking in minetest terms
13:20 NekoGloop Because they use it
13:20 NekoGloop Same as I use windows.
13:20 Calinou <VanessaE> NekoGloop: linux is the most widely used OS now.
13:20 Calinou android lol
13:20 Calinou it isn't, windows is more used. talking about COMPUTERS not phones
13:21 VanessaE Calinou: tablets too.
13:21 Calinou NekoGloop, if you aren't on a computer with UEFI just install linux in dualboot
13:21 sdzen hmmmmm why dont we all throw our computers off a cliff and say who cares about technology
13:21 Calinou (computers before 2011)
13:21 NekoGloop i think mine is older than that...
13:21 NekoGloop refurbished computer
13:22 Calinou and no, linux isn't hard.
13:22 Calinou not even debian, if you can be bothered to read
13:22 * Calinou prepares to stab any archlinuxian out there
13:22 sdzen damn it
13:22 thexyz archlinux isn't hard too
13:22 * VanessaE mumbles something about gentoo ;-)
13:22 thexyz if you can read
13:22 sdzen i was just going to comment
13:22 thexyz but most people cannot
13:23 thexyz sadface
13:23 NekoGloop Putting aside the fact that linux probably sucks and doesnt run Game Maker so it's worthless to me, having a dualboot on this thing would just be asking for too much disk space
13:23 sdzen it isnt
13:23 Calinou archlinux is unstable, hard to use and configure, bitches about config files
13:23 thexyz same goes for gentoo/slackware/etc, which is called "hard" by Calinou
13:23 Calinou NekoGloop, why does it suck?
13:23 Calinou game maker DOES suck
13:23 Calinou lrn2coe
13:23 Calinou code*
13:23 NekoGloop i do code >.>
13:23 thexyz that just means that it's "hard to use" for you
13:23 NekoGloop In game maker
13:24 thexyz what do you mean by "configure"?
13:24 NekoGloop for any one who has stone cold beliefs that Game Maker sucks: TRY IT OR GO FUCK YOURSELF
13:24 VanessaE NekoGloop: relax
13:25 * sdzen fucks himself then trys it
13:25 VanessaE linux sucks.  it just sucks less than windows, that's all
13:25 Calinou thexyz, OMG EDIT /ETC/X11/XORG.CONF AND PUT HERE IN THE "SCREAMING" TAB: FORCE_VSYNC_DISABLED_JUMPPAD_JUMPPPPPPPPAD FALSE
13:25 Calinou yeah everything sucks
13:25 Calinou :]
13:26 Calinou thexyz, who the fuck uses slackware/gentoo today?
13:26 PilzAdam NekoGloop, this is the windows version; could you please test it: http://ompldr.org/vZjIydg/map.zip
13:26 NekoGloop NO
13:26 Calinou everyone uses harshlinux because you can put anime porn as background
13:26 Calinou other distros don't let you do that apparently
13:26 PilzAdam NekoGloop, why?
13:26 VanessaE I'll stick to ubuntu.
13:26 thexyz Calinou: is that childhood trauma?
13:26 NekoGloop YOU HAVE ALL PISSED ME OFF TO THE POINT WHERE YOU CAN ALL JSUT GO DIE.
13:26 Calinou no u
13:26 VanessaE I got tired, years ago, of having to be an admin instead of just *using* my machine
13:27 thexyz i don't rage about ubuntu/windows/etc
13:27 Calinou ubuntu derivates are ok
13:27 Calinou but I tend to prefer rolling releases; thus, LMDE, or debian testing/unstable
13:27 Calinou derivatives*
13:27 PilzAdam NekoGloop, i didnt say anything about windows. I even make a windows version of my mod.
13:27 thexyz and yes, many people use gentoo
13:27 thexyz but you won't meet them at ubuntu forums ^^
13:27 NekoGloop SHUT THE FUCK UP
13:27 Calinou I never see them
13:28 Calinou oh god I started a distro war again. :D
13:28 VanessaE -funroll_loops -O3 -fsomeother_damn_switch -fracing_stripes -ftype_r_sticker
13:28 VanessaE ;-)
13:28 PilzAdam anyone else has windows and want to test my windows version?
13:28 thexyz why not?
13:28 Calinou -vomit-frame-pointer
13:28 Calinou -Win
13:28 Calinou ^ how I feel with gcc optionsd
13:28 thexyz if somebody want his PC to be really fast
13:28 Calinou -d
13:28 Calinou use HARSH LINUX!
13:28 Calinou sentence completed
13:28 thexyz i mean, gentoo
13:29 thexyz so that shows us again that Calinou can't into distrowars
13:29 VanessaE thexyz: I used to use gentoo.  I'm allowed to make jokes about it :-)
13:30 thexyz so that should be called flame war, not distro war
13:30 thexyz no real points
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13:37 PilzAdam anyone want to test my windows map mod: http://ompldr.org/vZjIydg/map.zip
13:38 NekoGloop NO
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13:53 JamieWill Hi Any one crated any new mods i will test them out if you want?
13:54 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2747 you need linux and python installed
13:55 JamieWill I might give it a go but will need to install python.
13:56 PilzAdam you have linux?
13:57 JamieWill wait no sorry
13:57 PilzAdam windows?
13:57 JamieWill yes sorry my mind went blank there sorry
13:57 PilzAdam http://ompldr.org/vZjIydg/map.zip
13:58 PilzAdam install python 2.7.3 and try the mod in the link
13:58 JamieWill ok
13:59 PilzAdam you should also edit the variable in the first line of init.lua
14:00 JamieWill ok
14:11 JamieWill what to?
14:11 PilzAdam you mean the variable?
14:12 JamieWill yes
14:12 PilzAdam Copy the path to the python.exe in it
14:12 JamieWill ok will do
14:14 JamieWill just oinstalling pyhton what is it?
14:14 JamieWill the mod?
14:15 PilzAdam pytho is a programming language
14:15 PilzAdam *python
14:15 JamieWill no i mean the mod
14:15 PilzAdam the mod adds a map
14:15 JamieWill oh ok nice
14:15 JamieWill what is in the map and what version of minetest?
14:16 PilzAdam ive tested it in linux with minetest 0.4.2-rc1
14:16 JamieWill ok i will ad it to my server?
14:16 PilzAdam you should use 0.4.2-rc1 too
14:16 JamieWill i have it
14:17 PilzAdam when you load a world the mod should create a image of the map
14:17 PilzAdam and you can craft a map like this:
14:17 PilzAdam paper   paper
14:17 PilzAdam paper   paper
14:17 JamieWill ok
14:18 PilzAdam creating a new image of a world may take some time
14:19 PilzAdam see also this thread: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2747
14:19 JamieWill python is still installing
14:20 PilzAdam you also need this (after python is installed): http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/
14:20 PilzAdam its a image libray for python
14:21 JamieWill where will i place it?
14:21 PilzAdam idk its a .exe; run it
14:22 JamieWill oh ok
14:24 JamieWill done
14:25 PilzAdam then install the mod
14:26 PilzAdam and load a worl (i recommend a small world)
14:26 PilzAdam *world
14:26 PilzAdam then craft a map and look if it works
14:32 * VanessaE wanders off for a nap
14:35 JamieWill i am away to try it now
14:35 JamieWill too busy watching the olympis GBR
14:39 JamieWill it said it was generating map.png?
14:40 JamieWill i have a green sign like thing?
14:40 PilzAdam in the chat?
14:41 PilzAdam search this line in debug.txt: [map] No map image found. Creating image... (This will take some time)
14:41 JamieWill i will find it soon
14:42 JamieWill ok found it
14:45 PilzAdam what are the lines under it?
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14:49 JamieWill [map] No map image found. Creating image... (This will take some time)
14:49 JamieWill [map] debug: 1
14:50 PilzAdam and the next line?
14:50 JamieWill thatis all for map
14:51 JamieWill hj
14:51 JamieWill sorry*
14:51 PilzAdam please change the line "if result ~= 1 then" in int.lua to "if result ~= 0 then"
14:52 JamieWill in the debug?
14:54 JamieWill done
14:55 JamieWill i read instruction wrong there is no txtur in textur pack in the mod file
14:55 JamieWill *texture
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15:01 JamieWill yo cal
15:03 PilzAdam did you restart minetest after editing init.lua?
15:04 JamieWill t yes now it is a cream / white colour
15:05 PilzAdam now check debug.txt
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15:07 NekoGloop I'm back-ish
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15:10 NekoGloop Oh no another k
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15:16 JamieWill [map] No map image found. Creating image... (This will take some time)
15:16 JamieWill [map] debug: 1
15:16 JamieWill [map] Failed!
15:16 JamieWill [map] Tried to run command "C:UsersJamie's AccountDesktopMinecraftPython\python.exe C:\Users\Jamie's Account\Desktop\Minecraft\Minetest 0.4.2\minetest-0.4.2-rc1-d38b465-win32\bin\..\mods\minetest\map\minetestmapper.py -i C:\Users\Jamie's Account\Desktop\Minecraft\Minetest 0.4.2\minetest-0.4.2-rc1-d38b465-win32\bin\..\worlds\Jamie's server -o C:\Users\Jamie's Account\Desktop\Minecraft\Minetest 0.4.2\minetest-0.4.2-rc1-d38b465-win32\bi
15:16 Calinou your account has a space
15:16 Calinou WHY THE FUCK did you call it jamie's account?
15:16 Calinou ttry not to have fun characters in your path
15:16 Calinou eg. spaces
15:16 Calinou "Jamie's server -o C:\"
15:17 Calinou change your world name to a name without spaces, too
15:17 Calinou or lastly: use linux
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15:17 JamieWill Harsh
15:18 PilzAdam JamieWill, change the \ in the variable to \\
15:18 thexyz Calinou: is /home/Jamie's Account/ better?
15:18 Calinou linux usernames can't have capitals, spaces or fancy chars
15:19 thexyz sure?
15:20 PilzAdam Calinou, why are u telling everyone to use linux. I need a tester for my mod for windows and you tell him to use linux. This make no sense.
15:21 JamieWill Calinnou x_x
15:21 NekoGloop Calinou is just being a brat. Leave the kid alone.
15:22 JamieWill *Calinou
15:22 PilzAdam JamieWill, change the \ in the variable to \\
15:23 JamieWill there is not textures in the map file btw?
15:24 PilzAdam the created map will be there
15:24 PilzAdam on server startup the map will be created
15:24 * NekoGloop eats Calinou's head off :3
15:24 NekoGloop Yum~ :3
15:24 PilzAdam and saved in textures/
15:24 Calinou NekoGloop, no u
15:24 JamieWill it not ther
15:24 Calinou spaces in paths are very dangerous, you know?
15:24 Calinou they break things often
15:25 Calinou as well as special chars in account names
15:25 PilzAdam yes because it didnt work
15:25 NekoGloop I use spacs in my paths very often
15:25 Calinou I almost never do
15:25 NekoGloop My account has a special character
15:25 Calinou we invented underscores
15:25 NekoGloop I never get errors.
15:25 Calinou my account's Calinou, period
15:25 PilzAdam so change all the \ in the python_paht variable into \\
15:25 NekoGloop At least errors related to that
15:27 PilzAdam ill be bakc in 2 min
15:28 thexyz what? spaces break things?
15:28 thexyz maybe, in DOS world
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15:30 PilzAdam im back
15:33 PilzAdam JamieWill, did you try to change the \ into \\ and restart minetest?
15:35 NekoGloop My mod is being all "FUCK YOU" and not letting me mine akalin blocks... -_-
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15:36 NekoGloop oh, i'm using the wrong tool. y u no allow mithril pick to destroy you, damn block.
15:37 Calinou thexyz, they do sometimes for minetest
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15:37 NekoGloop DEEEEEEERP
15:37 JamieWill1 yes i have
15:37 PilzAdam did it worked?
15:38 JamieWill1 No
15:38 PilzAdam debug.txt? (again)
15:38 NekoGloop I tryed that as well. Didnt work any more for me.
15:38 JamieWill1 can u do it if i send you what i have and you can fix it?
15:38 PilzAdam maybe
15:39 PilzAdam send me
15:39 JamieWill1 I think we should just conclude that it just doent work for windows?
15:39 Calinou it should work
15:39 NekoGloop If you download gloopores, deserts become ore-filled O.O
15:39 Calinou NekoGloop, are you using the old ore generation from moreores? it did that
15:39 NekoGloop lol I must have messed up the generation routine
15:39 Calinou the new/default one doesn't
15:40 NekoGloop I'm using the one that was in moreores. You expect me to know a version?
15:40 NekoGloop Version 12.07.26 of moreores
15:40 NekoGloop But moreores ores dont do the same thing lol
15:41 Calinou ah ok
15:42 PilzAdam JamieWill1, could u send it again,pls
15:42 NekoGloop Or I just got incredibly lucky
15:42 NekoGloop At least only coal, iron, and akalin, a useless ore, generate.
15:43 JamieWill1 Sent it?#
15:43 PilzAdam 0%
15:44 Calinou 1%
15:44 JamieWill1 2%
15:44 NekoGloop -1%
15:44 JamieWill1 Error 404
15:45 PilzAdam timed out
15:45 NekoGloop Error 999
15:46 Calinou Error 418
15:46 JamieWill1 Error WTF!
15:46 NekoGloop Error 666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666
15:46 PilzAdam JamieWill1, upload it with ompload or something
15:46 JamieWill1 Error: Could not connect to www.pornhub.com
15:47 NekoGloop lmao jamie
15:47 JamieWill1 lol
15:47 servvs is there a way to read a variable from a text file in lua?
15:47 servvs basically I want to make a configuration file for my script
15:47 NekoGloop probably
15:48 servvs I'm trying to find some info on it in google (not very well versed in LUA... yet) but can't find anything
15:48 PilzAdam servvs, local file = io.open("filename", "r")
15:49 PilzAdam file:read("*l")  reads a single charachter
15:49 vicscandl s/z//
15:49 servvs I understand that much, but if I want to write to the file, it appends to the end of the line rather than overwriting the original text
15:49 JamieWill1 didnt work :(
15:50 thexyz servvs: io.open("file", "w")
15:50 servvs again thexyz that will append to the end of the file, not overwrite it
15:50 Calinou io.delete("/")
15:50 Calinou inb4 this
15:50 servvs oh
15:50 thexyz how?
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15:51 servvs so delete the file and then recreate it each time? that could work
15:51 thexyz > That mode string may contain an `r´ for reading, a `w´ for writing (which also erases any previous content of the file), or an `a´ for appending, plus an optional `b´ to open binary files.
15:51 thexyz servvs: read lua docs
15:51 * NekoGloop smacks Calinou around with a large fishbot
15:51 servvs ok, thanks thexyz, I didn't realize that
15:52 vicscandl thexyz: and i thought teaching my 9 year old to code was a pain in the ass
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15:52 servvs :(
15:52 servvs that burned a little
15:52 vicscandl that was the intention
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15:55 * NekoGloop sticks servvs with a cattle prod
15:59 * servvs is in pain
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16:02 JamieWill1 If you wnt to see the sky castle (under construction) 0.4.2 rc1  port 30049 89.242.68.25
16:04 NekoGloop Oho? May I go on that server and freebuild, away from your castle ofc.
16:04 JamieWill1 T yes
16:05 NekoGloop ok
16:08 vicscandl meep!
16:09 NekoGloop lol vanilla game
16:10 NekoGloop So boring
16:10 Keegan yes
16:10 vicscandl aye
16:14 Calinou too much mods = sucks too
16:15 vicscandl Calinou: running minetest on your windows laptop connected via wifi is prob killing it too... :)
16:15 vicscandl hahahaha
16:21 NekoGloop too much mods = ftw
16:22 NekoGloop JamieWill1: Add gloopores. Nao.
16:23 Calinou and my mods :D
16:23 Calinou too much mods = slowness, inconsistency
16:24 thexyz that depends on mods you use
16:24 thexyz those without abms/node timers/entity timers/etc should not cause any load
16:25 NekoGloop example: gloopores and moreores, which I want JamieWill1 to add.
16:26 NakedFury mix them together
16:26 NekoGloop no, gloopores uses a slightly edited procedure
16:32 NekoGloop Meow~ :3
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16:57 Calinou thexyz, those who generate any blocks in runtime usually do
16:57 Calinou eg. flowers, dungeons
16:57 Calinou :|
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17:05 khonkhortisan minetest doesn't have water adhesion
17:06 thexyz don't they use ABMs?
17:08 RealBadAngel VanessaE: you have made furnace's walls dirty :)
17:09 RealBadAngel just saw your post
17:10 Calinou thexyz, dungeons do not use ABMs, they use on_generated
17:10 Calinou it's still very slow :|
17:12 thexyz but that's one-time slowness
17:12 Calinou VERY slow when playing locally, with freezes
17:12 Calinou it's not acceptable
17:12 PilzAdam on a good pc its not slow
17:13 Calinou i7 2600k + 12GB RAM + nvidia 570gtx + 2TB hdd
17:13 Calinou still slow on generating dungeons
17:13 Calinou with freezes
17:13 JamieWill1 my server is no longer vanilla thanks to NekoGloop
17:13 Calinou (also, the new map gen sucks, imo. the old one was much more varied/better/had actual HILLS and not "plateaus")
17:13 Calinou the old one was not slower, contrary to common belief
17:13 Calinou the caves were better too, more varied
17:14 Calinou and JUNGLES
17:15 tripod Calinou:
17:15 tripod STFY
17:15 PilzAdam Calinou, intel core i7 1st generation, 4GB ram, nVidia GTX 460 -> no freeze
17:15 Calinou no u, tripod
17:15 tripod okay
17:16 * tripod STFY'S
17:16 RealBadAngel i would love to see jungles here
17:16 Calinou PilzAdam, explore a new map around with dungeons mod, and see
17:16 Calinou you'll have horrible freezes from time to time
17:16 tripod i have no freezing what so ever
17:16 tripod but i rend 8core/32gb of ram
17:16 Calinou you do not have those without the dungeons mod, and it was less visible back in 0.3.x
17:16 PilzAdam Calinou, nope
17:16 khonkhortisan where's the bug tracker?
17:17 NekoGloop JamieWill1: Ddi you put gloopores on? :3
17:17 Calinou https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues?state=open
17:17 khonkhortisan okay thanks
17:20 NekoGloop JamieWill1: Plesae put the server back up, please! D:
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17:46 * NekoGloop is bored... D:
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17:51 JamieWill1 No down for maintance
17:52 NekoGloop aka putting my mods on there ;)
17:55 JamieWill1 Maybe
17:56 NekoGloop Most likely
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18:04 JamieWill1 lol
18:06 NekoGloop C'mon, put the server up :D
18:08 JamieWill1 The server is back up NO LONGER VANILLA!
18:09 Keegan what server
18:09 NekoGloop the special one :3
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18:34 JamieWill My server is now dead!
18:34 PilzAdam R.I.P.
18:35 JamieWill The server is now dead, due to my computer being a potato
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18:35 PilzAdam hmmmmmm
18:35 JamieWill A mashed potato
18:35 PilzAdam fried?
18:35 _2cool4me4_ Anyone know how to delete mesecons in stable 0.9?
18:36 JamieWill YEP
18:36 JamieWill DERP
18:37 JamieWill should i delete all mods to make it better?
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18:37 tripod ofc
18:37 tripod stfu Calinou
18:38 Calinou no u
18:38 Calinou hi
18:38 Keegan Is there a easy way to do daily map updates?
18:39 thexyz man crontab
18:39 tripod Calinou: hi
18:39 Calinou lol thexyz, he's on winblows :p
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18:39 Calinou Keegan, unfortunately, you can't, on windows
18:39 NekoGloop I'm back-ish again
18:39 thexyz windows can into cron
18:39 Calinou the mapper tool doesn't seem to work :|
18:39 Calinou thexyz, O_o
18:39 NekoGloop Calinou, shut up about windows
18:40 Calinou no u
18:40 _2cool4me4_ Windows 7?
18:40 NekoGloop Or I slam them shut on your nose
18:40 _2cool4me4_ o.o
18:40 Smilex Does the lua api have any event hook for timed intervals?
18:40 NekoGloop @Smilex: Look at mesecons
18:40 Calinou yes, it does
18:40 NekoGloop Blinky Plant
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18:41 _2cool4me4_ lol
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18:42 _2cool4me4_ Is #minetest broken?
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18:42 _2cool4me4_ Now it is
18:42 NekoGloop you broke it
18:42 _2cool4me4_ I know
18:42 thexyz Calinou: at least cygwin has crontab
18:43 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPjW_9KZo8M&amp;feature=related
18:43 NekoGloop This music is awesome :3
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18:44 thexyz too loud
18:45 NekoGloop then turn it down?
18:45 thexyz i already turned it off
18:45 NekoGloop lol
18:46 NekoGloop why do people here hate vocaloid?
18:47 Keegan best song is right here >>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSnkWzZ7ZAA
18:47 NekoGloop lolno
18:48 Keegan its better right?
18:48 NekoGloop no
18:48 Keegan yea
18:49 thexyz Keegan: i guess VanessaE can answer that question
18:50 thexyz Keegan: and no, it's even worse =(
18:50 Keegan what
18:51 Keegan this one>>>>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyx6JDQCslE
18:51 thexyz what is it about?
18:51 Smilex NekoGloop: I found this 'mesecons' thing, but it's just a large amount of undocumented code, and I don't know what I'm looking for, so do have any better and more specific pointers?
18:51 NekoGloop lol
18:52 NekoGloop if mesecons is one thine, it's not undocumented
18:52 Smilex NekoGloop: it is on the github page, and I'm talking about comments, not some introductory tutorial
18:53 NekoGloop First: Download it
18:53 NekoGloop Second: Unzip it
18:53 NekoGloop Third: Look in the mesecons folder
18:54 _2cool4me4_ GAH! Trying to make a simple logic circuit and plugs and sockets refuse to work
18:54 NekoGloop Fourth: Look in the mesecons_blinkyplant folder
18:54 NekoGloop Fifth: Open init.lua
18:54 NekoGloop Sixth: Read
18:54 NekoGloop Seventh: Profit
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18:55 Smilex NekoGloop: thank you, all I needed to know was mesecons_blinkyplant, also GitHub has a file browser which makes your life easier.
18:55 NekoGloop Also, github sucks and blocks me randomly
18:56 _2cool4me4_ UGH
18:56 Smilex I suggest getting that fixed then
18:56 _2cool4me4_ Can't wait until Mesecons are bug-free.
18:57 NekoGloop I have a mesecons paradise world ;)
18:57 _2cool4me4_ What I'm trying to build is not paradise for me.
18:58 Keegan have you guys heard the hangover song?
18:58 _2cool4me4_ Plugs and sockets refuse to work
18:58 thexyz Keegan: that's 146% offtopic at this channel, you know, right?
18:59 Keegan nope
18:59 leo_rockway somebody is working on a mod manager, right?
18:59 NekoGloop Jeija I believe.
18:59 leo_rockway because having to check the forum every day to see if a mod has an upgrade is kind of tiresome...
18:59 leo_rockway it would be nice if the mods were centralized
19:00 _2cool4me4_ If there was no Jeija, Minetest would be next to nothing :/
19:00 leo_rockway all in one git place or something, so I can git pull and forget about it.
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19:00 leo_rockway _2cool4me4_: I've never even tried mesecons...
19:00 NakedFury minetest nexus you place for mods
19:00 NekoGloop DO IT NAO
19:00 _2cool4me4_ Use v 0.9... I think
19:00 NakedFury a site similar to skyrym nexus where you have all mods in it
19:01 leo_rockway NakedFury: well, it's just a matter of one person doing a central git repo that mirrors all the mods...
19:02 leo_rockway mmhhh... cornernote has something like that. I wonder how updated / complete it is.
19:02 thexyz wtf
19:02 thexyz omploader is down =(
19:03 _2cool4me4_ I have 4 versions of mesecons in my minetest folder, most in a .zip file, don't know which is stable anymore.
19:03 thexyz > Ouch, db error: Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction
19:03 leo_rockway http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ompldr.org
19:03 leo_rockway yeah, it's down indeed
19:04 leo_rockway the problem is what happens when you have 10 flowers mods :S
19:04 thexyz then i'm still giving away FTP accouns for minetest modders ;)
19:04 thexyz hm.. up again
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19:06 thexyz lol, animals.zip in "top files"
19:06 _2cool4me4_ leo_rockway:Usernames and reviews ;)
19:06 * NekoGloop facepalm
19:09 NekoGloop What does the mesecons battery do?
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19:10 khonkhortisan I'd guess it's a capacitor
19:10 * _2cool4me4_ facepalm
19:11 _2cool4me4_ That's like asking what a 2cool4me4 does!
19:11 NekoGloop ...
19:11 _2cool4me4_ Which is a good question... :-(
19:11 NekoGloop xD
19:12 _2cool4me4_ What do you add to mesecons lua files to add a selectionbox?
19:12 NekoGloop they already ahve one, correct?
19:12 NekoGloop latest version?
19:13 _2cool4me4_ It's a tradeoff
19:13 _2cool4me4_ actually, it isn't.
19:13 NekoGloop latest version means no wireless
19:13 NekoGloop but selection boxes outweigh that
19:14 _2cool4me4_ Plugs and inverters don't work in any of the versions I've tried...
19:14 khonkhortisan can movestones turn corners or pistons and movestones go up yet?
19:14 NekoGloop inverters?
19:14 NekoGloop Torches?
19:14 khonkhortisan inverters are very useful
19:14 _2cool4me4_ No, temperest mod.
19:15 khonkhortisan you need an inverter for a movestone to automatically go back where it started
19:15 _2cool4me4_ I'm trying to make a binary adder according to the OCAM, but that's true too.
19:16 RealBadAngel @NekoGloop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw6UwAajfxk
19:16 NekoGloop what is that?
19:16 RealBadAngel subtly way to say hi ;)
19:16 _2cool4me4_ If you would please stop that RBA -.-
19:16 Jeija _2cool4me4_: You should use the mesecon microcontroller
19:17 NekoGloop Well, rba: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpayvIQ7Cfo Hi :3
19:17 _2cool4me4_ It's been added?
19:17 _2cool4me4_ Well, hello to all of you! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
19:17 RealBadAngel it japanese music. we both know what it is all about
19:17 khonkhortisan aw you made me lose the game
19:17 Keegan anyone know how to do daily map updates???? on windows
19:17 NekoGloop you have to get it from github. I was lucky enough to get github to not block me for two seconds to click the download link
19:18 khonkhortisan I didn't know github blocked
19:18 NekoGloop github blocks IE
19:18 _2cool4me4_ Use Firefox or Chrome or something
19:18 _2cool4me4_ Even Safari
19:18 NekoGloop lolno
19:18 NekoGloop I need all the disk space I have ;)
19:19 RealBadAngel well, astley was a popstar some time ago
19:19 RealBadAngel i do remember those days
19:19 _2cool4me4_ *awkward silence*
19:19 _2cool4me4_ Okay, silence over
19:19 NekoGloop I'M GONNA MAKE A NOTEBLOCK ALARM SYSTEM
19:20 _2cool4me4_ But what if you're not there?
19:20 NekoGloop whatever
19:20 NekoGloop it's still cool
19:20 NekoGloop and I'm in singleplayer
19:21 _2cool4me4_ Still pointless...
19:21 _2cool4me4_ So where do I get that microcontroller?
19:21 NekoGloop on girhub, check the forum
19:22 _2cool4me4_ not sure about girhub
19:22 _2cool4me4_ but I'll look on github!
19:22 NekoGloop Jeija: I wonder if you would mind me making a mesecons extension?
19:22 Jeija Of course not, mesecons provides an API for extensions
19:23 _2cool4me4_ Jeija is here :O
19:23 NekoGloop I mean would you add it
19:23 _2cool4me4_ Can't you contribute on Github?
19:23 Jeija Yes _2cool4me4_ and I already said somthing
19:23 Jeija Jeija: _2cool4me4_: You should use the mesecon microcontroller
19:23 NekoGloop Github still blocks me :P
19:23 Jeija What do you want to make NekoGloop
19:24 NekoGloop something :P
19:24 NekoGloop idk what yet
19:24 Jeija lawl ok
19:24 Jeija the documentation is at the beginning of the mesecons/init.lua file
19:24 NekoGloop I know
19:24 NekoGloop Can I suggest a noteblock crafting recipe?
19:24 Jeija Of course
19:25 NekoGloop W W W
19:25 NekoGloop M S M
19:25 NekoGloop W W W
19:25 NekoGloop W=Wood, M=Mesecons, S=Steel Ingot
19:25 NekoGloop sound good?
19:25 Jeija Steel Ingot... not sure, but why not
19:25 Jeija Let me code that
19:26 NekoGloop Well, its better than no recipe
19:27 _2cool4me4_ Jeija: the Temperest parts still don't work very well at all.
19:27 _2cool4me4_ And I know nothing about lua :(
19:28 Jeija And I don't think Temperest's part is the future
19:29 Jeija Use my microcontroller instead
19:29 _2cool4me4_ Ohkay
19:29 Jeija They never really worked
19:29 Jeija (bless me Temperest)
19:30 NekoGloop I've made a energy storer out of microcontrollers, you send a signal and then the microcontrollers keep the signal, until you hit another switch.
19:31 Jeija Well, that's the RS FlipFlop (in the preset snippets)
19:32 NekoGloop I dont have any snippets O.o
19:33 NekoGloop Just the "Program" button
19:33 Jeija Update to the latest version of my mod. There should be some buttons underneath the Code field. The new version also  includes the craft recipe for the noteblock.
19:33 NekoGloop ok
19:34 _2cool4me4_ what is the giveme command for the microcontroller? I tried /giveme mesecons_microcontroller:microcontroller
19:35 NekoGloop uh... try giving yourself the recipe items :D
19:35 _2cool4me4_ That's the non-lazy man's way.
19:36 sdzen why not nie the items then?
19:36 NekoGloop whatever
19:36 sdzen mien*
19:36 sdzen mine*
19:36 NekoGloop Activate the creative mode ;)
19:37 Jeija It would be /giveme mesecons_microcontroller:microcontroller 0000
19:37 Jeija *microcontroller0000
19:37 Jeija But I'll add an alias for that
19:38 * vicscandl is melting in this 100F southern california weather!
19:38 vicscandl howdy yall
19:39 vicscandl Jeija: thanks btw, used mesecons to help with a lua issue i was having last night with locating an item in a node above vs the node itself.
19:39 vicscandl Jeija: {{ looked at your code for reference }}
19:39 _2cool4me4_ It said: cannot give an unknown item
19:39 _2cool4me4_ nvm
19:40 _2cool4me4_ Now how does this work?
19:41 _2cool4me4_ What version was it built for? 0.4.2?
19:41 NekoGloop right click it and reference the .pdf in the folder of the mod
19:42 _2cool4me4_ Yeah, I'm stupid...
19:43 NekoGloop OMG DOWN AND UP PISTONS?!
19:43 _2cool4me4_ o.o
19:44 * NekoGloop had such an old version apparently >.>
19:44 NekoGloop Nice little nodebox for the micrcontroller Jeija
19:45 Jeija you have to say thanks to VanessaE, she did that!
19:45 NekoGloop oh ok
19:45 Jeija I also love them ^^
19:45 NekoGloop I'll tell her next time I see her
19:47 _2cool4me4_ It doesn't even give me a nodebox.]
19:47 _2cool4me4_ It shows me a grey box in the upper left corner.
19:48 NekoGloop ...
19:48 _2cool4me4_ THat says Left Click in it
19:49 NekoGloop Well, on another note, I got my signal-saving microcontroller to work, from code I input myself
19:49 _2cool4me4_ NO NO OTHER NOTES
19:50 Jeija oh yes _2cool4me4_ I know that bug
19:50 Jeija that happens if you use minetest 0.4.1 instead of 0.4.2
19:50 NekoGloop And another note, I used a noteblock (IRONY)
19:50 _2cool4me4_ I see
19:50 _2cool4me4_ Thank you
19:51 NekoGloop you should be able to chain sticky pistons
19:52 _2cool4me4_ Yay! It works in 0.4.2! Thanks, Jeija!
19:53 Jeija Maybe some of you want to help me with mesecon testing: Get this mod https://github.com/Jeija/mesecon-wires-new and /giveme wires:00000000_off 99999 You should check if that wire works for you and if it is fast enough
19:53 NekoGloop and have the extended pistons not stay where they are
19:53 NekoGloop Jeija: CHAINABLE STICKY PISTONS
19:53 NekoGloop :D
19:53 NekoGloop NEED FOR CHAINABLE STICKY PISTONS IS HGE
19:53 NekoGloop HUGE*
19:54 Jeija There are soo many things that people need
19:54 Jeija if it is that huge try to code it yourself and send me the patch
19:54 NekoGloop lol I think I could try
19:54 NekoGloop probably simple
19:55 NekoGloop Just need to remove the extended piston node if it's not touching a sticky piston
19:55 _2cool4me4_ This will be so much better
19:56 _2cool4me4_ But, is there a way to make it an OR?
19:56 NekoGloop Yes
19:57 NekoGloop if(A|C) on(B)
19:57 NekoGloop A or C turn on B
19:57 Jeija better:
19:57 Jeija sbi(B, A|C)
19:57 Jeija B is output, A and C are inputs
19:57 Jeija but that should be in the presets
19:57 _2cool4me4_ There's XOR
19:57 NekoGloop NOR looks like if(!A|!C) on(B)
19:58 NekoGloop he's right, it's not there
19:58 NekoGloop how many different notes of noteblock are there?
20:00 NekoGloop 11?
20:00 Jeija a->gsharp+hihat, kick, snare, crash, litecrash
20:00 Jeija all in all 17
20:01 NekoGloop how do I choose the extra 5?
20:01 Jeija by the block below: glass stone chest tree wood
20:01 NekoGloop oh?
20:02 NekoGloop UN Owen remix needed now ;)
20:02 NekoGloop Why do delayers seem not to work?
20:02 Jeija I'm currently working on a better delayer: Requirement for music
20:02 Jeija They work
20:03 Jeija but something with facedir is heavily wrong
20:03 Jeija the minetest api was changed
20:04 NekoGloop i know
20:04 NekoGloop had some issues with workbench
20:04 NekoGloop i was pissed until they updated it ;)
20:05 NekoGloop wait, dont microcontrollers delay the signal a bit?
20:07 NekoGloop mesecons should at least work vertically, not neccessarily draw that way, but at least work that way
20:07 Jeija no
20:07 NekoGloop no to what?
20:07 Jeija wait, dont microcontrollers delay the signal a bit? --> no
20:08 NekoGloop ok
20:08 khonkhortisan even vertical movestones?
20:08 Jeija mesecons should at least work vertically, not neccessarily draw that way, but at least work that way --> Make a tower of two mesecons next to each other
20:08 khonkhortisan now why didn't I think of that?
20:09 NekoGloop lol but what if i dont have the space?
20:09 NekoGloop still better than a ramp I suppose
20:09 Jeija dunno, the you're lost
20:09 khonkhortisan make more space?
20:10 NekoGloop lol
20:11 NekoGloop I'm gonna so make an extenstion for this. It is too awesome to not have some part of it be by me ;)
20:12 Jeija ok
20:12 Jeija won't be too easy
20:12 NekoGloop So how are plugs and sockets supposed to work and why dont they?
20:12 Jeija you have to make add_conductor also acceptor conductor rules
20:13 Jeija NekoGloop: Ask Temperest, I never even had a look at them
20:13 NekoGloop ... -so helpful-
20:15 Jeija I mean you just shouldn't use them
20:15 _2cool4me4_ yep
20:15 Jeija I have no idea how they work, I just know that you don't need them and that they create game crashes
20:15 NekoGloop ok
20:15 khonkhortisan do pistons still crash?
20:16 NekoGloop how do I make mesecons that are moved by sticky pistons turn off? :P
20:16 khonkhortisan that's a bug
20:16 khonkhortisan it can be used to make a switch
20:18 Jeija NekoGloop: You can't; it worked, but that created compatibility problems with the particles mod. Stability is more important than functionality
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20:22 NekoGloop Yay, a small piston door that doesnt look like crap
20:22 Matsetes Hey guys!
20:23 Matsetes Somebody can tell me what's the best mod for colored blocks?
20:23 Matsetes I want to make 3d constructions coloured
20:23 sdzen cotton if you want variety
20:24 NekoGloop unifiedbricks if you want too much variety
20:24 sdzen and wool 32 to keep it simple and usable without any dependency
20:26 _2cool4me4_ what would nor be on the microcontrollor?
20:26 NekoGloop if(!A|!B) function
20:27 Jeija just connect the two wires and make a NOT on the µC
20:28 vicscandl Jeija: just to mess with you, pull me an XORANDOR.... hehee
20:28 _2cool4me4_ on the what?
20:28 Jeija µ=Micro C=Controller
20:28 khonkhortisan mu to you too
20:28 _2cool4me4_ thanks
20:30 JamieWill A new 0.4.2 Griefing server!
20:30 _2cool4me4_ Where?
20:31 NekoGloop m13's one that says |No Griefing|
20:31 _2cool4me4_ *palmface*
20:31 NekoGloop He greifs everyone else, so everyone else is gonna grief him
20:31 khonkhortisan didn't greif me
20:31 _2cool4me4_ I would, but I have to go soon :(
20:31 leo_rockway anyone tried animals? does it make your processor melt like it did mine?
20:31 _2cool4me4_ until sunday
20:32 NekoGloop lol leo
20:32 _2cool4me4_ If your processor melted, how are you still online?
20:32 khonkhortisan I didn't expect vombies to be animals
20:32 leo_rockway different comp o.o
20:32 leo_rockway the creepers and the DM look pretty good
20:32 _2cool4me4_ wait, Celeron meant that literally?
20:32 khonkhortisan it made my computer reboot, but that was because of GPU overheat
20:32 leo_rockway but DMs weren't really spawning in shadows :S
20:32 _2cool4me4_ ooh
20:32 leo_rockway khonkhortisan: yes, that's what I meant.
20:32 NekoGloop Oh god thunder
20:33 leo_rockway _2cool4me4_: meant what literally?
20:33 _2cool4me4_ That Minecraft melted his computer :P
20:33 leo_rockway oh... I didn't mean that literally
20:33 _2cool4me4_ lol
20:33 khonkhortisan just mine some magic smoke and smelt a new cpu
20:33 leo_rockway but it made my processor go to 200% usage
20:33 leo_rockway and minetest stopped responding...
20:33 leo_rockway the areas wouldn't load
20:34 _2cool4me4_ that's not possible
20:34 leo_rockway and the things I mined didn't show up in my inventory.
20:34 leo_rockway _2cool4me4_: well, it happened.
20:34 te3 how long do you think a computer running minecraft will power a furnace?
20:34 leo_rockway te3: haha.
20:34 _2cool4me4_ Depends if it's a laptop or not
20:34 khonkhortisan I don't know how to answer the question
20:34 vicscandl te3: not long enough
20:34 leo_rockway I never ever tried Minecraft.
20:34 leo_rockway is it that bad?
20:34 JamieWill dont
20:34 _2cool4me4_ AARGH
20:34 khonkhortisan I tried the demo
20:35 JamieWill very laggy
20:35 leo_rockway minetest worked really well for me until the most recent updates...
20:35 khonkhortisan you still have a full inventory in survival
20:35 vicscandl my son said minecraft, i found minetest. FUCK minecraft. stupid closed system for pay
20:35 te3 you can run a pirate client, you know
20:35 leo_rockway I really like the idea of playing survival in Minetest, but no mobs make that impossible.
20:35 _2cool4me4_ I just looked at it to see a redstone computer
20:35 leo_rockway I don't use nonfree (aka non opensource) software.
20:36 _2cool4me4_ it was cool, but slow and it got quickly blown up by creepers. >.<
20:36 vicscandl Jeija: if i have not said it yet, spot on work mate
20:36 Jeija that's what I'm doing right now
20:37 _2cool4me4_ Well, I have to go..
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20:38 leo_rockway I like mesecons in theory, but I'm terrible remembering recipes. Now that I have the craft guide mod I may install mesecons.
20:39 NekoGloop I like the craft guide but workbench recipes tend to break it
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20:40 NekoGloop Hmm... Anything that needs to be added to mesecons in particular?
20:41 Jeija I need some testers
20:41 NekoGloop Sorry, on my ipad
20:41 Jeija k
20:41 khonkhortisan I'll have to update
20:41 NakedFury what do you need tested?
20:42 Jeija nodebox wires https://github.com/Jeija/mesecon-wires-new
20:42 NekoGloop Omg
20:42 leo_rockway NekoGloop: workbench is broken...
20:42 NekoGloop No its not
20:42 NekoGloop Works fine for me
20:43 leo_rockway NekoGloop: it makes stuff disappear.
20:43 NekoGloop Orl
20:43 NekoGloop Orly*
20:43 NekoGloop How?
20:43 leo_rockway hold on
20:44 NakedFury Jeija do I need stable 4.1 or latest 4.2?
20:44 Jeija latest 4.2
20:44 NekoGloop Meow~
20:44 leo_rockway NekoGloop: last two comments: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2000&amp;p=2
20:45 thexyz Calinou: new doors, as you requested http://i.imgur.com/EGmtQ.png
20:45 RealBadAngel is celeron about to make somethin with wool?
20:45 leo_rockway RealBadAngel: a sweater.
20:45 NakedFury celeron was thinking on making a default dye mod
20:46 NekoGloop Leo, that happens with the inventory grid, right?
20:46 JamieWill no a fleece
20:46 JamieWill http://imgur.com/a/T6bXF#0
20:46 Jeija NakedFury: celeron was thinking on making a default dye mod >> but there is and also colored wool
20:46 leo_rockway NekoGloop: when you move crafted stuff from the workbench to oyur inventory..
20:46 leo_rockway if you click on a spot that already had something, your stuff disappears
20:46 NekoGloop I know
20:47 thexyz JamieWill: actually, i don't see a problem here
20:47 NekoGloop But in the default inventory grid, isnt it the same thing?
20:48 JamieWill seriously?  they were building around 10 and were being very derogatory
20:48 thexyz were they building it at some other players' territory?
20:49 RealBadAngel dyes are here
20:49 NekoGloop Was the server owner pissed that there was a swastika on their server? (i think i spelled that right)
20:49 leo_rockway NekoGloop: not AFAIK.
20:49 RealBadAngel wool also
20:49 leo_rockway about the inventory, I mean.
20:50 RealBadAngel but no recipes
20:50 JamieWill one ontop of a few friends house eg Razor
20:50 vicscandl i've got a menorah i can go put on that world.. :)
20:50 khonkhortisan don't you mean nafaik?
20:51 JamieWill and having jewish family that had been killed by the Germans it is not very nice
20:51 khonkhortisan or afaidk?
20:51 vicscandl JamieWill: 94788326 - my grandmothers number
20:51 khonkhortisan that's a short number
20:51 vicscandl interned early
20:51 vicscandl family is polish jew
20:52 vicscandl total FILO stack
20:52 Matsetes For you wich is the best mod?
20:53 NekoGloop The one that fixes your spelling.
20:53 * vicscandl is a big fan of the "sudo rm -rf /" mod....
20:53 RealBadAngel dictionary mod ;)
20:53 thexyz anybody wanna to test new mod?
20:53 vicscandl thexyz: server??
20:53 JamieWill it was inappropriate for the server he was trying to say he was german yeet he joined my server and i traced the ip to Canada
20:54 NekoGloop I might later. What is it, thexyz.
20:54 vicscandl thexyz: (( and ver ))
20:54 RealBadAngel i bought today bandwitch
20:54 thexyz vicscandl: no server, i'll upload it
20:54 khonkhortisan vicscandl: then I guess I need to put a password on my sudo
20:54 RealBadAngel and a server place
20:55 vicscandl khonkhortisan: prob the best idea
20:55 RealBadAngel will run dedicated server witm 1gb connection
20:55 thexyz http://mods.minetest.ru/~xyz/xdoors2/xdoors2-preview.zip
20:55 JamieWill ok!
20:55 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/EGmtQ.png
20:56 thexyz that's "smarter" xdoors =)
20:56 khonkhortisan minetest needs windowless doors, I have to use two to make a bathroom right now
20:56 thexyz fully reworked, of course
20:56 JamieWill good xyz
20:56 JamieWill lovin' the dooooors
20:56 khonkhortisan in my real house the only doors that have windows are the ones that lead outside
20:57 JamieWill thats the only dors u got
20:57 thexyz khonkhortisan: but that's just a game
20:57 JamieWill :)
20:57 khonkhortisan I guess a game doesn't really need moulding
20:58 JamieWill jokes nah i a wooden door with windows in it
20:58 JamieWill *have3
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20:58 JamieWill i love the doors now i wished for a fix there must have been a shooting star#
20:59 vicscandl thexyz: ok, i can put multiple doors into a node and it gets all crazy
21:00 NekoGloop Why would you do such a thing?
21:00 RealBadAngel it will be server for europe
21:00 vicscandl NekoGloop: because i'm testing and most of my players are fucking idiots and would do such a thing
21:00 RealBadAngel i got here 22ms ping time
21:00 NekoGloop Lol ok
21:00 RealBadAngel instead of over 300ms in the states
21:01 vicscandl note to future programmers: test does not mean "test this feature" it means "break my shit so i code better from the start"
21:02 RealBadAngel lol
21:02 RealBadAngel but true
21:02 RealBadAngel you know how admin call users?
21:02 NakedFury fuck spotify sucks
21:02 RealBadAngel abusers
21:03 vicscandl 20+ years as a project manager... i'm not good, i've just heard enough bullshit to last 20^googleplex years
21:03 RealBadAngel they do allways want to find a way to break through
21:03 NekoGloop Googolplex*
21:03 vicscandl NekoGloop: learn typonese
21:04 vicscandl hhehehee
21:04 NekoGloop I was translating
21:04 RealBadAngel in polish laguage its even better
21:04 vicscandl NekoGloop: snap, google translate does not support Typonese. FUCK
21:04 thexyz vicscandl: how can you do this?
21:04 NekoGloop Lol
21:04 RealBadAngel użytkownik: is and user
21:04 thexyz i have tried just now and i can't put multiple doors in one node
21:04 vicscandl vicscandl:  just drop two doors into the same node... ie: put it on the door already in the node. then delete it
21:05 vicscandl lemme pull some images, ive got a node that has a door on x+1 and x-1 sidesw
21:05 RealBadAngel użyszkodnik: is a game of words
21:05 RealBadAngel it means it is a user, but also he does damage to your system
21:05 khonkhortisan my brother is very good at "testing"
21:06 vicscandl khonkhortisan: my 9 year old fucks my code regularly
21:06 thexyz vicscandl: that's not "one" node
21:06 vicscandl thexyz: sorry, getting used to MT vernacular...
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21:07 vicscandl thexyz: ok is it sane to have 2 doors that surround a corner? getting image up, 1s
21:07 thexyz also, what do you mean by "gets all crazy", in which way?
21:07 NekoGloop That's a widely used creeper trap, suppose the same works for vombies.
21:09 NekoGloop Having 4 doors surround one spot
21:09 NekoGloop Pressure plate triggers all four doors.
21:09 Matsetes How can I obtain coal for testing?
21:09 NekoGloop Would need mesecons compatibility or needs to use mesecons
21:09 thexyz NekoGloop: is it wrong?
21:09 vicscandl thexyz: http://imgur.com/a/bGi02#0
21:09 NekoGloop Is what wrong?
21:10 RealBadAngel type /giveme default:coal 99
21:10 Matsetes Thx!
21:10 vicscandl thexyz: neither of these doors have been clicked to open, only placed.
21:10 NekoGloop default:coal_lump 99*
21:10 sdzen it is very sane
21:10 vicscandl vicscandl: ((note, i could be 100% off base as this *could* be a realistic request))
21:10 thexyz NekoGloop: "Pressure plate triggers all four doors."
21:11 thexyz vicscandl: i still think that everything is right here
21:11 NekoGloop Well its supposed to, traps said creeper inside
21:11 Matsetes thx
21:11 thexyz and don't see problem here
21:11 RealBadAngel @sdzen: bought a server place
21:11 sdzen good!
21:11 vicscandl thexyz: ok, just pointing it out as it visually just did not sit with me..
21:11 thexyz btw, vicscandl, are you sure you're using my doors, not default ones?
21:11 JamieWill whos server?
21:12 RealBadAngel 1gb bandwitch, and 1tb server space
21:12 thexyz because it seems that's default doors (by textures)
21:12 vicscandl thexyz: ooooooooo lemme check that out, hold... i could be
21:12 JamieWill what address
21:12 thexyz vicscandl: try /giveme xdoors2:door
21:12 vicscandl thexyz: runnign texture packs
21:12 vicscandl thexyz: doing so
21:12 RealBadAngel runs on linux
21:12 vicscandl thexyz: ((yea, debug shows default doors, one minute))
21:13 RealBadAngel checked ping to it
21:13 RealBadAngel 22ms
21:13 JamieWill I have merdu windows
21:13 thexyz RealBadAngel: what's other specs? cpu/ram?
21:13 thexyz what's the price?
21:14 vicscandl thexyz: sorry, forgot to symlink in your mod
21:14 RealBadAngel paid 150 eu for year
21:14 JamieWill nice
21:15 thexyz RealBadAngel: but what about other specs?
21:15 sdzen specs specs specs :P
21:15 sdzen i want them too!
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21:15 * NekoGloop gives sdzen his glasses
21:16 RealBadAngel shit i dont know
21:16 RealBadAngel its fast
21:16 thexyz lol
21:16 thexyz > bought server
21:16 thexyz > don't know its specs
21:16 thexyz like Calinou would say
21:16 RealBadAngel i hired it
21:16 NekoGloop > greentexting where it doesnt work
21:16 RealBadAngel dont care if its made with c-64 or pentium 10000
21:17 sdzen you should
21:17 RealBadAngel no
21:17 RealBadAngel i paid for speed and space
21:18 JamieWill can i join or is it not running yet?
21:18 thexyz strange choice
21:18 thexyz i'd better buy new HDD
21:18 vicscandl thexyz: ok, yea, looks good from my end... i'll look over the code later, trying to get my mod to take VanessaE's algae as fuel
21:18 vicscandl thexyz: i'll have the 9 year old mess with it tho....
21:21 NekoGloop Lol why
21:23 vicscandl thexyz: any point in particular you want looked at, or just general all around test?
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21:23 thexyz all around i gues
21:23 thexyz btw, already found bug
21:23 vicscandl thexyz: i've got eight kids on a server here, all under 14.
21:24 vicscandl thexyz: let me know when to update.
21:24 RealBadAngel i bought it from provider
21:24 thexyz ok
21:25 RealBadAngel its not like i bought a pc
21:25 RealBadAngel i bought service
21:25 RealBadAngel provider has hardware
21:25 NekoGloop So how's electricity comeing?
21:26 vicscandl thexyz: if anyone can break it, they will...
21:26 RealBadAngel packaged
21:26 NekoGloop O rly
21:26 vicscandl {{ c55: your game has made me the "coolest dad" in town. thanks }}
21:26 NekoGloop U
21:26 NekoGloop Fisfdnsjk
21:26 RealBadAngel gonna just clean the mess with cucumbers
21:26 NekoGloop Uploaded*
21:27 RealBadAngel i was makin today sauer cucumbers
21:27 RealBadAngel 30kg
21:27 vicscandl RealBadAngel: cucumbers don't hold soap well.
21:27 RealBadAngel got a mess around
21:27 RealBadAngel need to clean it up first
21:28 vicscandl aye; pickling them?
21:28 RealBadAngel yes
21:28 vicscandl mmmmmmmmmmm, niceness!
21:28 vicscandl miss my mum's fresh pickles
21:28 RealBadAngel after 1 or two weeks
21:28 RealBadAngel theyre the best then
21:29 * khonkhortisan just added an issue
21:29 vicscandl end of the summer we would pickle all the green tomatoes prior to culling the bush... so effing tasty!
21:29 RealBadAngel later on theyre just sauer
21:30 RealBadAngel but to catch this moment when theyre half sauer
21:30 RealBadAngel poetry
21:30 RealBadAngel fresh tomatoes
21:30 RealBadAngel sane
21:30 RealBadAngel and onion
21:30 vicscandl the kid likes me to prepare pickled corn/green beans/peas/kidney,pinto and garbanzo beans
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21:31 vicscandl throwback to a cold bean salad
21:31 RealBadAngel mix it and wait for a few hours
21:31 RealBadAngel some salt and pepper just
21:31 vicscandl but 30kg of pickles... thats some weight!
21:32 RealBadAngel exactly
21:32 RealBadAngel whole afternoon im makin them
21:32 vicscandl cooking and coding... two of my favorites!
21:32 RealBadAngel and not fisished yet
21:33 vicscandl RealBadAngel: only bad thing about making your own pickles is that you have to wait to try them out.. :(
21:33 RealBadAngel last year i made them
21:33 RealBadAngel they lasted till october
21:33 vicscandl i have a 4 day countertop quick pickle, but its just not infused with the proper flavors
21:34 RealBadAngel this year i gonna make so much that xmas table will have them too
21:35 RealBadAngel flavors are the secret
21:35 RealBadAngel i use some plants
21:36 vicscandl damned candian isp asshats: http://bgpmon.net/blog/?p=622
21:37 vicscandl RealBadAngel: i've got three planted spiceboxes around the yard... dry and package them all year.. :)
21:37 RealBadAngel blackcurrant
21:37 RealBadAngel and cherry
21:38 thexyz vicscandl: new version http://mods.minetest.ru/~xyz/xdoors2/xdoors2-preview2.zip
21:38 RealBadAngel i use leafes of them
21:38 thexyz fixed "double doors" detection
21:39 Keegan anyone know how to make the hack client?
21:39 NekoGloop Dont? :l
21:40 RealBadAngel fuck the idea
21:40 vicscandl Keegan: after you do your cmake, run 'sudo rm -rf /' from the commandline.. that should do it
21:40 thexyz vicscandl: he's on windows
21:40 RealBadAngel we do not need greivers
21:40 thexyz so, Keegan, install cygwin
21:41 thexyz then do what vicscandl told
21:41 RealBadAngel we need players
21:41 * khonkhortisan is confused by noteblocks
21:41 vicscandl thexyz: inventory, can't stack doors... reason?
21:41 leo_rockway vicscandl: -.-
21:41 leo_rockway don't do what vicscandl said
21:41 NekoGloop Hit the noteblock to change the potch
21:41 thexyz vicscandl: umm... why not?
21:41 thexyz at least, minecraft does the same
21:42 thexyz and this mod is designed to mimic minecraft's doors
21:42 vicscandl thexyz: in inventory, like my item i can have 34 of them in one spot
21:42 RealBadAngel viscandkl: missed definition? ;)
21:42 NekoGloop Nooooooo, not be like minecraft!
21:42 thexyz vicscandl: only if you use /give or /giveme
21:42 leo_rockway I think copying MC features is okay as long as there's a good reason for it.
21:42 thexyz NekoGloop: is that minecraftfobia?
21:42 thexyz that's not too special minecraft feature
21:43 khonkhortisan what gives me a delay?
21:43 vicscandl thexyz: i've never played MC at all (my son has, i just don't care) so its an aspect i don't know of... so cool...
21:43 RealBadAngel copyin when made: i saw i made
21:43 RealBadAngel is ok
21:43 RealBadAngel we do not takin MC's code
21:43 Keegan how do i download cygwin
21:43 RealBadAngel we code all from scratch
21:44 vicscandl Keegan: after you go to cygwin.org, press "Alt-F4"
21:44 Keegan no you dont
21:44 vicscandl Keegan: google exists for a reason you silly redmond lover
21:44 RealBadAngel me?
21:44 NekoGloop Google eats cake :3
21:45 Keegan not you realbad
21:45 NekoGloop And the cake is a lie :3
21:45 RealBadAngel lol
21:45 RealBadAngel who eat it?
21:45 vicscandl RealBadAngel: rupert murdoch
21:45 NekoGloop Google
21:45 Keegan how do i download it
21:45 vicscandl Keegan: with your computer
21:45 RealBadAngel hehehe
21:45 NekoGloop And your internet
21:45 Keegan shut up
21:46 RealBadAngel you shut up, and bring next cake
21:46 vicscandl Keegan: ask more intelligent questions then.
21:46 khonkhortisan noteblocks could have a gui to choose from a piano's range of notes
21:46 Keegan what is a website for the download link
21:46 vicscandl Keegan: if you don't already know how to download and install software... well..
21:47 * vicscandl has missed being an ircasshole.
21:48 khonkhortisan alt-f4 kills my window
21:48 vicscandl hahahahahaha
21:48 Keegan dude i tried 25 links and none works... WHY DONT IT WOERK?
21:48 vicscandl Keegan: because i hacked your computer.
21:48 Keegan NO YOU DIDNT
21:48 * vicscandl can't wait to see where *this* is going to lead...
21:48 khonkhortisan it's a joke
21:48 vicscandl Keegan: are you sure?
21:49 Keegan STOP PLZ
21:49 vicscandl Keegan: you *are* using a web based IRC client....
21:49 thexyz Keegan: http://cygwin.com/install.html
21:49 khonkhortisan yeah use pidgin or a dedicated instant message program
21:49 RealBadAngel pidgin is the best
21:49 Keegan what s a avalid download site
21:50 * vicscandl just scared his kid from laughing so loud...
21:50 thexyz Keegan: here is direct download http://cygwin.com/setup.exe
21:50 RealBadAngel wow
21:50 vicscandl all: i'll stop now, unless you are all finding this funny...
21:50 RealBadAngel thats a proper ping : 252 s
21:50 RealBadAngel lol
21:51 Keegan ok what now
21:51 RealBadAngel where he were?
21:51 RealBadAngel on jupiter?
21:51 leo_rockway vicscandl: alt+f4 can be funny. rm -rf / is not. He can recover easily from alt+f4.
21:51 RealBadAngel but it works
21:51 * NekoGloop give rba another cake
21:51 RealBadAngel when newwie comes
21:52 thexyz leo_rockway: rm -rf --no-preserve-root / or rm -rf /*
21:52 thexyz should work
21:52 xing_zhi delete sys32 is another good one
21:52 leo_rockway >.<
21:52 RealBadAngel and asks how can i?
21:52 leo_rockway you guys are terrible
21:52 thexyz or even perl -e '$??s:;s:s;;$?::s;;=]=>%-{<-|}<&|`{;;y; -/:-@[-`{-};`-{/" -;;s;;$_;see'
21:52 leo_rockway :(){ :|:& };:
21:52 thexyz btw, don't run that thing
21:52 xing_zhi bork fomb
21:52 khonkhortisan I can't read perl like that
21:52 vicscandl leo_rockway: no, we prey on the weak. welcome to the internet, neo.
21:52 vicscandl thexyz: oh shit.. thats prime
21:52 RealBadAngel alt f4 effects with 20-30 irc drops
21:52 NekoGloop Or even 66666666666666666666666666
21:52 leo_rockway vicscandl: I'm not new, that's the point.
21:53 RealBadAngel at the time
21:53 khonkhortisan ctrl-w does something on windows I think
21:53 RealBadAngel try that on popular channels
21:53 leo_rockway vicscandl: I think destroying somebody else's computer is stupid.
21:53 vicscandl leo_rockway: i did not do it; they typed the commands without RESEARCHING WHAT THEY DID...
21:54 vicscandl leo_rockway: jump out of a plane without a parachute there guy?
21:54 RealBadAngel back in the time i was an op on #sex on ircnet
21:54 leo_rockway vicscandl: yes, they are n00bs, that's not a reason to let a guy die jumping from a plane o.0
21:54 RealBadAngel for a few yrs
21:54 vicscandl leo_rockway: i'm a hooker and i know it.
21:54 leo_rockway :S
21:54 thexyz echo | sed 's/^/\/;h;s\/\\\\\/\\\\\\\\\/g;s\/\\\/\/\\\\\\\/\/g;G;s\/\\n\/\/;s\/^\/echo|sed s\\\/^\\\/\/;s\/ \/ \\d039\/;s\/$\/\\d039\/e;q/;h;s/\\/\\\\/g;s/\//\\\//g;G;s/\n//;s/^/echo|sed s\/^\//;s/ / \d039/;s/$/\d039/e;q'
21:55 vicscandl thexyz: ok, at some point i'm going to stop being happy i started this
21:55 thexyz right
21:55 RealBadAngel alt f4 was famous way to get rid of lamas ;)
21:55 leo_rockway but alt+f4 is not destructive, so I'm fine with that.
21:55 vicscandl thexyz: on leo's statement... rm -rf / is harsh... your shit is evil.
21:56 leo_rockway forkbombs won't kill you, alt+f4 won't kill you.
21:56 leo_rockway rm -rf / is nasty.
21:56 RealBadAngel alt f4 is funny
21:56 thexyz rm -rf / doesn't work on modern distributions
21:56 thexyz try it and you'll see :trollface:
21:56 RealBadAngel and seein folks coming back all the time
21:57 RealBadAngel and complainin my window closed
21:57 RealBadAngel priceless ;)
21:57 leo_rockway thexyz: I know they had to fix that on Ubuntu because of a lot of lamers telling people to run it and n00bs actually running it.
21:57 thexyz according to manpages
21:57 thexyz --preserve-root
21:57 thexyz do not remove '/' (default)
21:57 thexyz but /* still should work
21:58 leo_rockway I don't think I have --preserve-root
21:58 leo_rockway I should add it just in case I have a typo...
21:58 thexyz that's enabled by default
21:58 leo_rockway thexyz: where?
21:59 leo_rockway GNU coreutils comes like that by default?
21:59 vicscandl leo_rockway: i have all headless linux clients in the house that talk with a central server that loads the proper stuff... rm -rf / has no effect on my code, programms or data
21:59 leo_rockway I thought Ubuntu had aliased it in .bashrc or something.
21:59 vicscandl leo_rockway: but i'm no n00b... :)
21:59 leo_rockway vicscandl: I don't :S
22:00 leo_rockway I have one laptop...
22:00 thexyz leo_rockway: > do not remove '/' (default) > (default)
22:00 vicscandl leo_rockway: 1ml of prevention....
22:00 leo_rockway well, two. This one and mine.
22:00 thexyz see man rm
22:00 leo_rockway this one is work's
22:00 leo_rockway thexyz: I checked in this server. It's enabled by default...
22:00 vicscandl thexyz: outside of anything else, seems to work fine.. no borkage
22:00 leo_rockway and considering this is Debian stable, all the distros should have it by default already.
22:01 vicscandl leo_rockway: most newer linux installs come with -i enabled for rm (prompt all deletes) so it usually won't work unless they are REALLY STUPID
22:03 vicscandl thexyz: xdoors2 looks to be stable at this time on my 4.2-rc1 server... kids banging on it now
22:05 thexyz nice to hear that
22:06 leo_rockway vicscandl: that's good I guess. It kind of goes against *nix philosophy...
22:07 leo_rockway does xdoors2 have sound?
22:07 leo_rockway it seems weird to close a door and hear nothing.
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22:08 NekoGloop Hello again :P
22:08 vicscandl leo_rockway: yes and no; ever had to recover an rm -rf / done by root?
22:08 thexyz leo_rockway: i can't into making sounds =(
22:08 leo_rockway vicscandl: no, but usually when you ask *nix to shoot you in the foot *nix replies "which foot?"
22:08 vicscandl leo_rockway: sound delivery can lag the server; sound files are inherently larger than text lua scripts
22:08 leo_rockway *nix doesn't try to stop the user from being stupid.
22:09 leo_rockway I play singleplayer...
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22:09 vicscandl leo_rockway: ... "being stupid" 100% agree
22:09 NekoGloop I play singleplayer to use mods of my choice.
22:09 NekoGloop And to use mesecons.
22:09 NekoGloop No need for antigriefing when there's no griefers.
22:09 * vicscandl uses mesecons local, not on networked servers (yet)
22:09 leo_rockway I play singleplayer because I'm a poorfag with lots of lag.
22:10 vicscandl leo_rockway: so a lagfag?
22:10 vicscandl must be a european thing like dodging...
22:10 leo_rockway vicscandl: well, I guess that goes better. I was going to say I'm poor and I can't pay better internet...
22:11 leo_rockway but there's no better internet here...
22:11 vicscandl leo_rockway: steal the neighbors
22:11 leo_rockway 3rdworldfag o.0
22:11 leo_rockway vicscandl: no, that's the thing... all internet sucks here.
22:11 leo_rockway our international pipe is too crowded.
22:11 vicscandl guh, national QoS sucks balls
22:12 NekoGloop I want iOS minetest :l
22:12 vicscandl NekoGloop: if you code it, they will come...
22:12 NekoGloop Lolno
22:12 NekoGloop I dont think i could code for iOS to save my life
22:12 vicscandl Objective C is not all that bad...
22:13 NekoGloop Biggest problem is making mods accessible.
22:13 vicscandl NekoGloop: not so much, the front end can be coded to use known git repos to pull them.
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22:13 * NekoGloop kicks apple in the shin for making sinful ipads.
22:14 vicscandl minetest on my old //e, now that would be the shit
22:14 NekoGloop There's windows phones now, did you know?
22:15 vicscandl redmond is a large portion of the 99%
22:15 NekoGloop Cant be that hard to make minetest on windows phones.
22:15 NekoGloop I imagine they dont have the security lockdown of the ipad
22:16 vicscandl security is never teh issue... finding a good 3d rendering for the phone is the biggest issue
22:16 NekoGloop Dinner, y u no get done faster?
22:17 vicscandl afk, time to jump in the pool with the mini-me... back later
22:17 vicscandl thexyz: the other kids are instructed to mess with the 700 doors i generated
22:18 vicscandl thexyz: i'll parse the debug output and see if there is anything of note in 2 hours
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22:32 NekoGloop What's everybody's favorite mod? Mine is mesecos
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22:33 NekoGloop Mesecons*
22:38 VanessaE mesecons is about to get a *beautiful* update :-)
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22:39 RealBadAngel im done with pickles
22:39 RealBadAngel made 9, 5liters jars of them
22:41 VanessaE stand by ...
22:41 VanessaE :-)
22:41 NekoGloop Vanessae, if you mean your nodebox microcontrollers, they're already therw
22:41 VanessaE no
22:41 VanessaE wait. :-)
22:42 NekoGloop Vertical mesecons, finally?
22:42 RealBadAngel i know pickels r no nodes of piece of code neither
22:42 RealBadAngel but i do love pickles ;)
22:42 VanessaE NekoGloop: sort of
22:42 VanessaE trying to make a good screenshot of it now.
22:42 NekoGloop Rba, have you fixed up your mod some yet?
22:43 RealBadAngel gimme half an hour
22:43 NekoGloop Counting ;)
22:43 RealBadAngel and it will be ready
22:43 RealBadAngel need to make repcipes, screenshots
22:43 RealBadAngel and such stuff
22:44 NekoGloop Ok
22:44 NekoGloop Copper battery:
22:45 NekoGloop - - -
22:45 NekoGloop C C C
22:45 NekoGloop I I I
22:45 NekoGloop C=copper, I=insulation
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22:50 VanessaE NekoGloop, RealBadAngel:  http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_314205544.png
22:50 RealBadAngel heh
22:50 RealBadAngel wait a sec
22:50 VanessaE mesecons wires - that crawl up/down the sides of the blocks now
22:50 VanessaE no more raillike draw type!
22:50 RealBadAngel oooo
22:50 RealBadAngel i see i pushed some folks to do something :)
22:50 VanessaE and as you can see the new wires also visibly connect to nearby mesecons blocks
22:51 NekoGloop Omg release it now
22:51 VanessaE not yet, still a tad more work to do
22:51 VanessaE it's almost ready though
22:51 RealBadAngel good
22:51 RealBadAngel competition is good for all
22:51 NekoGloop Brb
22:52 RealBadAngel i also wanna c the code for it
22:52 VanessaE very soon :-)
22:53 RealBadAngel gave you mine sooner
22:53 RealBadAngel share it plz :)
22:53 VanessaE I can't yet - it's mostly jeija's code anyway :-)
22:54 RealBadAngel ok ok
22:54 NakedFury I guess it will be similar to how the oil mod pipes work
22:54 RealBadAngel so good then
22:55 RealBadAngel when he will be ready with it
22:55 RealBadAngel i will flood him with ideas for logic
22:55 RealBadAngel no mercy
22:56 VanessaE heh
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22:58 NekoGloop Back
22:59 RealBadAngel meanwhile i found out more use for power
22:59 NekoGloop oho? What?
22:59 RealBadAngel tools
22:59 RealBadAngel that will use power to function
22:59 NekoGloop automated mining or am I getting the wrong idea?
22:59 RealBadAngel no
22:59 mrtux I need some help with a minetest server
23:00 RealBadAngel hand wielded drills
23:00 RealBadAngel jetpacks
23:00 NekoGloop tools that go in your inventory and need power to run, are like more powerful or something?
23:00 RealBadAngel screwdrivers to rotate blocks
23:00 NekoGloop THAT would be useful but I imagine difficult to code in .lua
23:01 RealBadAngel not all of them
23:01 RealBadAngel you dont need to rotate cobble for example
23:01 RealBadAngel but machines?
23:01 RealBadAngel yes
23:02 RealBadAngel when u will need to connect all the wires
23:02 RealBadAngel transport tubes
23:02 RealBadAngel or pipes
23:03 RealBadAngel possibility to rotate the machine will be very usueful
23:03 NekoGloop or have it and mesecons at the same time, rotate pistons without picking them back up again :P
23:04 RealBadAngel also
23:04 RealBadAngel same to logic
23:04 RealBadAngel rotate the gate
23:04 RealBadAngel very handy
23:05 VanessaE brb
23:05 VanessaE don't nobody go nowhere please
23:05 NekoGloop not gonna
23:05 RealBadAngel neither
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23:06 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/mesecons-testing1.png
23:06 VanessaE ok guys
23:06 VanessaE pick one.
23:06 VanessaE which of the three screenshots in this image looks the best?
23:06 VanessaE the difference if you can't see it right away is the thickness of the mesecons wires.
23:07 NekoGloop one on top
23:07 VanessaE top:  1/4 pixel.  middle:  1/2 pixel.  bottom:  1 pixel (all relative to the default 16px textures)
23:07 NekoGloop top looks best imo
23:08 VanessaE anyone else?
23:08 VanessaE I need feedback
23:09 NekoGloop RBA is working on his code
23:09 VanessaE RealBadAngel: wake up! :-)
23:09 NekoGloop D:
23:09 NekoGloop He's on a time limit
23:09 VanessaE oh
23:09 NekoGloop (set by me ;3)
23:10 * VanessaE pokes at my for signs of life
23:10 VanessaE oops
23:10 * VanessaE pokes at MiJyn for signs of life
23:10 * VanessaE pokes at NakedFury for signs of life
23:10 * VanessaE pokes at vicscandl for signs of life
23:10 * NekoGloop pokes at VanessaE for signs of death
23:10 * khonkhortisan pokes at self and turns alive
23:10 VanessaE The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated.
23:10 VanessaE khonkhortisan: look at the screenshot
23:11 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/mesecons-testing1.png
23:11 khonkhortisan it matches the blocky style of mt
23:11 RealBadAngel and that is epic
23:11 VanessaE khonkhortisan, RealBadAngel which of the three looks best in that image?
23:11 khonkhortisan oh they're different?
23:12 NekoGloop top is best, middle is meh, bottom pops out too much.
23:12 khonkhortisan thickness
23:12 VanessaE yeah, thickness test
23:12 khonkhortisan what are the thicknesses exactly?
23:12 VanessaE NekoGloop: already got you down :-)
23:12 NekoGloop I know :3
23:12 NakedFury 3
23:12 RealBadAngel thickness
23:12 RealBadAngel the 3rd
23:12 NekoGloop Voicing my opinion on all of the options.
23:12 VanessaE khonkhortisan: top is 1/4 pixel thich, middle is 1/2, bottom is 1 pixel (relative to the default 16px  textures)
23:12 NekoGloop I can live with any one of them.
23:12 NakedFury my vote goes 3.
23:13 RealBadAngel flat is shit
23:13 NakedFury choosing 1 is the same as not having any thickness, raillike again
23:13 VanessaE ok, two votes for the bottom image, one for the top image
23:13 RealBadAngel when u step on it
23:13 NekoGloop my vote is 1, but they're all fine imo
23:13 khonkhortisan I like the middle one the top looks like a texture
23:13 VanessaE for myself, I lean toward the bottom image also
23:13 RealBadAngel wires have to look like wires
23:13 NekoGloop then use the bottom image
23:13 khonkhortisan I vote ~1
23:13 VanessaE ok, three votes for the bottom one, 1 for the top, 1 for the middle.
23:14 RealBadAngel can vote again?
23:14 NekoGloop JUST DO THE BOTTOM ONE
23:14 VanessaE you can change your vote :-)
23:14 RealBadAngel yup
23:14 RealBadAngel listen to him
23:14 khonkhortisan If it's the bottom one will I go up a little when I walk over it?
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23:14 RealBadAngel hes wise guy
23:14 khonkhortisan can I trip on exposed wires?
23:14 VanessaE heh
23:15 NekoGloop you will go up slightly, assuming she's using nodeboxes
23:15 NakedFury has to be nodebox
23:15 NakedFury no other way
23:15 VanessaE they are nodeboxes but I didn't check if they're set for walkable (easily changed if not)
23:15 RealBadAngel stepin on my non isolated ones
23:15 RealBadAngel will hurt
23:15 RealBadAngel *non
23:15 NekoGloop shouldnt be problems with going through 1x2 tunnels.
23:15 khonkhortisan are they the little squares when isolated?
23:16 khonkhortisan try filling the ceiling and walls and floor
23:16 VanessaE khonkhortisan: a single 1-node long wire when placed by itself
23:16 NekoGloop similar to what it does already?
23:16 NakedFury I still wish they did not need 1x1 tunnels
23:17 VanessaE similar yes
23:17 VanessaE but now they rotate properly in all situations :-)
23:17 VanessaE so no more of this:
23:17 VanessaE -
23:17 VanessaE -#-
23:17 VanessaE -
23:17 RealBadAngel even LV stands for Low Voltage
23:17 VanessaE it'll be like this
23:17 VanessaE |
23:17 VanessaE -#-
23:17 VanessaE |
23:17 RealBadAngel its 220 V anyways
23:17 VanessaE (where # is some object like a switch or whatever)
23:17 RealBadAngel MV will mean 380v
23:17 khonkhortisan I haven't seen improper rotation. I probably haven't used them enough
23:17 RealBadAngel HV is to be decided
23:17 khonkhortisan exploding tranformers burning trees!!!
23:18 VanessaE NakedFury: in theory, now that these use nodeboxes, these could be extended to run through dirt, glass, etc.  I'll talk to jeija about it.
23:18 RealBadAngel when you will try to aplly MV to LV wire
23:18 VanessaE khonkhortisan: improper rotation:  place a pressure plate, solar panel, switch or anyh other object.  Now place a mesecon wire on each side.
23:18 RealBadAngel it will just burn
23:18 VanessaE two of the wires will appear to connect, two won't
23:18 khonkhortisan ladders do the same thing
23:18 VanessaE in this re-fit, they'll all connect, and if they're by themselves, they'll just be little short stubs
23:19 khonkhortisan make a vertical ladder with four going off from it
23:19 RealBadAngel to connect MV to LV there will be transformers needed
23:20 NakedFury now that wires mod needs: water corrosion foloowed by non working wires
23:20 RealBadAngel with HV i gonna to look for tnt mod code
23:20 RealBadAngel there will be nuclear reactor aviable
23:21 RealBadAngel able to produce lots of power
23:21 NakedFury you could stay in low tech setting and have steam power stuff
23:21 NekoGloop Make ability to wirelessly send small smounts of power
23:21 RealBadAngel but will need to be cooled
23:21 NakedFury steampunk setting
23:21 NekoGloop amounts*
23:22 RealBadAngel if not cooled, its temperature will raise
23:22 RealBadAngel once hit the critical level it will blow
23:22 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Small amounts of power being sent wirelessly? (such tech exists today, just not affordable)
23:22 VanessaE NekoGloop: tesla coils are cheap enough to make ;-)
23:23 RealBadAngel makin nice big hole in center of your base ;)
23:23 VanessaE RealBadAngel: there ya go, make a tesla coil! :-)
23:23 NekoGloop oh, I suppose so. Not the tech I was thinking of.
23:23 khonkhortisan I found an oddity with noteblocks. Put a button in front of a noteblock. If you put a second noteblock behind the first, it won't turn on. If you put the second noteblock on top of the first, it will turn on.
23:24 NakedFury not coded
23:24 NekoGloop Because noteblocks dont send a signal through themselves like pistons do.
23:24 khonkhortisan they send it vertically but not horizontally
23:24 NekoGloop No, that's the button
23:25 NekoGloop Try to remove the first noteblock and press said button again
23:25 khonkhortisan oh. Well I meant a button then a mesecon then the noteblock
23:25 khonkhortisan the button is far enough away
23:25 NekoGloop Then it's the mesecon wire
23:25 khonkhortisan oh.
23:25 RealBadAngel jeija should drop minecraft tradition of block bein able to conduct
23:25 NekoGloop Those for some reason send a signal up, I believe.
23:25 khonkhortisan it's on the ground, I didn't expect it to go that far
23:26 RealBadAngel wires should do that
23:26 RealBadAngel not dirt blocks for example
23:26 NakedFury water could be used to pass current
23:26 NakedFury provided its a small patch of water
23:26 khonkhortisan then it would have a terminating distance
23:27 RealBadAngel but no stone
23:27 RealBadAngel or whatever
23:27 NakedFury say 2x2 or at most 3x3 of water conducting energy
23:27 NakedFury or 1x2 or 1x3
23:27 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: How unreasonable would making wireless power transfer be? Low voltage (lower than copper wire), but not having to build and place all that wire would be nice.
23:28 khonkhortisan my 1x2 wire stack moves when I turn it on
23:28 NekoGloop lolwat
23:29 RealBadAngel it cannot allow to power heavy machinery
23:29 * VanessaE looks at khonkhortisan
23:29 khonkhortisan the button is messing with it
23:29 RealBadAngel just maybe transmiters
23:29 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Cant you just do it?
23:29 RealBadAngel remote controllers
23:29 NekoGloop Make it a hard to craft recipe :P
23:30 VanessaE well if you want to model the real world, it should be medium voltage, medium power that falls off with distance
23:30 VanessaE like lose 10% relative to max for each block away from the transmitter
23:31 RealBadAngel yeah
23:31 VanessaE (with the block immediately adjacent being 90% of the transmitter power)
23:31 NekoGloop 5% would be better
23:31 khonkhortisan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90cf5D5pwO8
23:31 RealBadAngel and then you could remotely operate the switches, levers
23:31 RealBadAngel with an item
23:31 RealBadAngel and charged battery of course
23:32 VanessaE khonkhortisan: that's minetest doin that.  node placement prediction
23:32 VanessaE the new wires won't do that I think
23:32 RealBadAngel items do have damage, yes?
23:32 VanessaE damage?
23:32 RealBadAngel wear
23:33 VanessaE tools do
23:33 RealBadAngel sorry
23:33 VanessaE but regular craftitems don't afaik
23:33 RealBadAngel meant tools then
23:33 khonkhortisan Don't I have to remove part of mesecons to get the new wires?
23:33 VanessaE blocks placed in the world don't either
23:33 RealBadAngel so, we take it
23:33 RealBadAngel and make reversal
23:33 VanessaE khonkhortisan: yes, but the new wires have not been integrated into mesecons git master yet
23:33 NekoGloop if you make them connect to on/off nodes regardless of whether the node is on/off in the same way that you make them connect to the blocks, VanessaE, it will not do that.
23:33 khonkhortisan what do I take out?
23:34 VanessaE they're being maintained as a separate module at the moment.
23:34 RealBadAngel damage is not damage anymore but power level
23:34 khonkhortisan I can't just throw them in and have it work, right?
23:34 RealBadAngel and can be charged
23:34 VanessaE khonkhortisan: not entirely.  just wait for the new release, it'll probably be tomorrow
23:35 VanessaE lots of changes have been made to mesecons and to the wires plugin - the two work together nicely but they haven't been combined and officially released yet.
23:35 RealBadAngel i made prototype of mining laser
23:35 NekoGloop Meow~ :3
23:35 NekoGloop RealBadAngel, just release what you have >.>
23:35 RealBadAngel as in minecraft mod
23:36 NekoGloop upload the one with working wires >.>
23:36 RealBadAngel you put batteries into battery box
23:36 RealBadAngel load them up
23:36 NekoGloop DUDE UPLOAD THE MOD
23:37 RealBadAngel then use the power to operate the tool
23:37 RealBadAngel ok, i shut up and go work
23:37 RealBadAngel ;)
23:37 khonkhortisan are these rechargable batteries? Isn't it dangerous to leave them in the charger?
23:38 VanessaE khonkhortisan: a modern battery charger in real life won't do damage to a battery left connected beyond full charge
23:38 RealBadAngel they uses tool damage system
23:38 khonkhortisan aw
23:38 RealBadAngel 0 - no charge
23:38 VanessaE these days, battery chargers sense the battery charge/voltage and shut off if full
23:38 khonkhortisan so I can't explode my cell phone
23:38 RealBadAngel 100% charged as the newly crafted tool
23:39 VanessaE you can if the battery itself is shit ;-)
23:39 khonkhortisan Is there a way for a sign to keep the text as you move it?
23:39 * NekoGloop pokes rba to stop ranting and work
23:39 RealBadAngel heheh
23:39 khonkhortisan oh that's what rba is
23:39 * RealBadAngel is away. BUSY
23:40 * khonkhortisan is away. VACATION
23:40 VanessaE khonkhortisan:  only if you store the sign's text in a file and somehow associate the entry therein with a particular sign
23:40 VanessaE in short, probably not
23:40 NekoGloop LMAO
23:40 * NekoGloop is away. MINING
23:42 * VanessaE is away - BRUSHING HAIR
23:42 VanessaE ;)
23:44 BloodyFire joined #minetest
23:44 NekoGloop lol
23:46 VanessaE hehe
23:48 * NekoGloop kicks khonkhortisan
23:48 NekoGloop Vacation's over
23:54 NekoGloop VanessaE, how close are you to finishing?
23:54 VanessaE neko: very close.
23:55 * NekoGloop wants it NAO
23:55 VanessaE tomorrow or day after, most depends on jeija's schedule now
23:55 NekoGloop D:
23:55 * NekoGloop WANT IT NAOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
23:55 VanessaE NO! :-)
23:55 VanessaE *hoard*
23:55 VanessaE MINE MINE MINE!!
23:55 VanessaE ;-)
23:55 * NekoGloop points gun at VanessaE
23:55 NekoGloop Mine.
23:55 VanessaE *pokes finger into end of gun*
23:56 VanessaE *pulls out bigger gun*
23:56 VanessaE mine.
23:56 VanessaE :-)
23:56 * NekoGloop wheels a cannon over
23:56 NekoGloop Mine.
23:57 VanessaE *pulls out a nuclear bomb*
23:57 VanessaE mine.
23:57 VanessaE (for the uninitiated, this is a bugs bunny vs. yosemite sam classic, where each tries to one-up the other with ever increasing weapon sizes)
23:58 VanessaE brb
23:58 * NekoGloop pulls out a fourth-wall-breaker
23:59 NekoGloop Mine. ;)

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